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"clancy" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"Well, it's been a true honor to have you on here. Thanks for sharing your stories. We will promote your books out till the day we die, wishing you continued success and that of your son also for going into law enforcement. So God bless you both. All right. You bet. All right. Thank you. You guys don't go anywhere. Everybody hang on for just a second. All of you guys stay tuned for the debrief. Just the story about how they were out there trying to arrest a guy and the moose just comes wandering through there, you know, just the things that are uniquely Alaskan, you have to appreciate. And Mark just said he backed up against the wall next to the chimney, hoping he wouldn't be noticed. I think I've been running out of there screaming like a little girl. There's a big moose going to get me. Somebody help me. And then bears. And then you hop out and there's bears all over the place. So he's in a perfect place to be writing his books. Oh my gosh. It was great too. The other thing I loved about it too, you heard him say at the end of it, he said he really enjoyed it, which we did too. It's like sitting around, having a bear or in your case, a ginger ale, you snitch. You have to go back and read what it means. Spill coffee. Spill coffee. But you have to understand it's a great compliment from somebody like him. He's gotten to the point now to where they take a couple months, they go to a very fantastic little tropical island way out in the South Pacific so he can write books. What a great way to continue on the career. But we had the stories though. But the one that impacted him talking about the guy, the killing that he did and the work they did to go out and find a single tooth in an area, just to find a single tooth. If you want to know folks what the definition of dedication is, it's something like that. One thing that cops like to do, and I think the reason that so many people like Game of Crimes is cops like to drink beer and tell war stories. And that's what we do here on Game of Crimes. We have the professionals who, the heroes who actually live these events come on and tell you their story. It's not us reading something and then we tell you what their story is. We bring them on so you hear it from the horse's mouth, so to speak here. Or the moose's mouth in this case. But Mark even, he went a step further and we actually went longer than we anticipated on his interview because he has so many stories and we were just scratching the surface. But since then, he's introduced us to two more people we're going to have on the show. One a former CIA case officer and the other retired DEA agent. And let me just say the DEA agent, his last name is Rambo. You cannot write a better script for a podcast or a movie. Rambo. Yep. And we've already got these guys lined up for interviews, so you'll be hearing from them in the future. But Mark didn't have to go out of the way to do that for us. And so Mark, thank you so much for coming on the show and thank you for the introductions. And I mean, we just wish you continued success. You'll hear, I mean, you heard Mark talk about his son went into law enforcement. Now he's over at the State Department. So we wish him all safety in that position as he travels around the world. But God bless you, brother. Thanks for coming on the show. Yeah. And remember, guys, go to Mark. M-A-R-C. Cameron. MarkCameronBooks.com. And we'll also put a link to his website, too. You'll find all of his socials. You can find him on socials, so make sure you go follow him. Make sure you get his book, Breakneck, an Arliss Kutter novel. He's also got Jericho Quinn, in addition to writing the Tom Clancy novel. So what a prolific writer and a great guest. So this is us thanking you. And if you guys enjoyed this episode as much as we did, head on over to Apple, Spotify. Hit those five stars. It's magic. We don't know how it works. It's like moose. It's like finding a moose in the middle of the Alaska wilderness. Such a treat. Just hit those fives. I don't know how this relates to it, but I just wanted to put one more moose tie in. So I'll also head on over to GameOfCrimesPodcast.com. That's where we have all the information on Mark's book, the rest of our show. Follow us on that thing they call social media. At Game of Crimes on Twitter, Game of Crimes Podcast on Facebook and the Instagram. But guys, you got to go over to Patreon.com slash Game of Crimes. That's where we have a ton of fun. Our Q &A is coming up. If you guys haven't listened to that, we take all questions. We answer all things. 911, what's your emergency? The strangest call ever played on a podcast is coming up. You just got to listen to that. Case of the month, we just got through doing Warden of the Throne. So lots of good stuff. And even Murph, the best part about this was we didn't even interrupt. We kept recording, even though Murph spilled coffee all over everything. Had to have Connie come in with paper towels to wipe his ass up. I mean, not wipe his ass, but wipe mess, mess up, mess up. Thank you, Connie. Love you, girl. Oh, thank you. Thank you very much.

Game of Crimes
Fresh update on "clancy" discussed on Game of Crimes
"Well, it's been a true honor to have you on here. Thanks for sharing your stories. We will promote your books out till the day we die, wishing you continued success and that of your son also for going into law enforcement. So God bless you both. All right. You bet. All right. Thank you. You guys don't go anywhere. Everybody hang on for just a second. All of you guys stay tuned for the debrief. Just the story about how they were out there trying to arrest a guy and the moose just comes wandering through there, you know, just the things that are uniquely Alaskan, you have to appreciate. And Mark just said he backed up against the wall next to the chimney, hoping he wouldn't be noticed. I think I've been running out of there screaming like a little girl. There's a big moose going to get me. Somebody help me. And then bears. And then you hop out and there's bears all over the place. So he's in a perfect place to be writing his books. Oh my gosh. It was great too. The other thing I loved about it too, you heard him say at the end of it, he said he really enjoyed it, which we did too. It's like sitting around, having a bear or in your case, a ginger ale, you snitch. You have to go back and read what it means. Spill coffee. Spill coffee. But you have to understand it's a great compliment from somebody like him. He's gotten to the point now to where they take a couple months, they go to a very fantastic little tropical island way out in the South Pacific so he can write books. What a great way to continue on the career. But we had the stories though. But the one that impacted him talking about the guy, the killing that he did and the work they did to go out and find a single tooth in an area, just to find a single tooth. If you want to know folks what the definition of dedication is, it's something like that. One thing that cops like to do, and I think the reason that so many people like Game of Crimes is cops like to drink beer and tell war stories. And that's what we do here on Game of Crimes. We have the professionals who, the heroes who actually live these events come on and tell you their story. It's not us reading something and then we tell you what their story is. We bring them on so you hear it from the horse's mouth, so to speak here. Or the moose's mouth in this case. But Mark even, he went a step further and we actually went longer than we anticipated on his interview because he has so many stories and we were just scratching the surface. But since then, he's introduced us to two more people we're going to have on the show. One a former CIA case officer and the other retired DEA agent. And let me just say the DEA agent, his last name is Rambo. You cannot write a better script for a podcast or a movie. Rambo. Yep. And we've already got these guys lined up for interviews, so you'll be hearing from them in the future. But Mark didn't have to go out of the way to do that for us. And so Mark, thank you so much for coming on the show and thank you for the introductions. And I mean, we just wish you continued success. You'll hear, I mean, you heard Mark talk about his son went into law enforcement. Now he's over at the State Department. So we wish him all safety in that position as he travels around the world. But God bless you, brother. Thanks for coming on the show. Yeah. And remember, guys, go to Mark. M-A-R-C. Cameron. MarkCameronBooks.com. And we'll also put a link to his website, too. You'll find all of his socials. You can find him on socials, so make sure you go follow him. Make sure you get his book, Breakneck, an Arliss Kutter novel. He's also got Jericho Quinn, in addition to writing the Tom Clancy novel. So what a prolific writer and a great guest. So this is us thanking you. And if you guys enjoyed this episode as much as we did, head on over to Apple, Spotify. Hit those five stars. It's magic. We don't know how it works. It's like moose. It's like finding a moose in the middle of the Alaska wilderness. Such a treat. Just hit those fives. I don't know how this relates to it, but I just wanted to put one more moose tie in. So I'll also head on over to GameOfCrimesPodcast.com. That's where we have all the information on Mark's book, the rest of our show. Follow us on that thing they call social media. At Game of Crimes on Twitter, Game of Crimes Podcast on Facebook and the Instagram. But guys, you got to go over to Patreon.com slash Game of Crimes. That's where we have a ton of fun. Our Q &A is coming up. If you guys haven't listened to that, we take all questions. We answer all things. 911, what's your emergency? The strangest call ever played on a podcast is coming up. You just got to listen to that. Case of the month, we just got through doing Warden of the Throne. So lots of good stuff. And even Murph, the best part about this was we didn't even interrupt. We kept recording, even though Murph spilled coffee all over everything. Had to have Connie come in with paper towels to wipe his ass up. I mean, not wipe his ass, but wipe mess, mess up, mess up. Thank you, Connie. Love you, girl. Oh, thank you. Thank you very much.

Game of Crimes
"clancy" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"Point Barrow is right out the road from the city of Barrow or Utqiagvik. You drive out and the points right out there. It's a fascinating place. Absolutely fascinating. We're going to reach out and see if we can find some type of psychologist or something to see if we can get you some help, Mark. The first step in recovery is asking for help. Hey, I got to tell you, this is what's been so fun about this. Again, this is why you write such great books is to write a great book, you got to be a great storyteller. And one of the advantages of being in law enforcement, right, is you can't make this shit up. I mean, we do a whole thing on Patreon, but it's called You Can't Make This Shit Up. And some of the stories, some of the stuff, if you told it, it's kind of like, there's no way that happened. It's like, yeah, that happened. It's like, you know, even the embarrassing stuff. It's so much fun. So no more Tom Clancy. You're going to focus on Arliss. Last question here, because we want to be respectful of your time. But the Jericho and the Arliss, are you going to keep those both going or does one have to stop so you can focus on the other? I mean, because it's a lot of cognitive load. Like you said, I mean, to write a book and do the research, it's not like you can kind of do half of something today, half of one on the other one tomorrow. I mean, it's almost like when you get into something, at least for me, I got to stay immersed in it so that I don't lose track of where I'm at. How does that work for you? No, I write one thing at a time generally, but I can still go back and forth. And all right, I get people asking me about when the next Jericho is coming out all the time. I get several emails a day. I got one just before I logged on with you guys. I just got another one asking if I would quit writing the Jericho's and I have not. I have one plotted out. It's just that the publisher and I have decided that it's really up to them what books they want me to write and publish because I have to make my living at this. And I enjoy writing the Jericho's. I have a lot of, I mean, yeah, I enjoy writing the Jericho's. I enjoy writing the Cutters. Eventually, hopefully before too long, there'll be another Jericho, but I'll go back. I have contracts for another Jericho and a couple more. We just signed for two more Arliss Cutters. So, but I'll write one for six, seven months and then go back and write another one, you know, back and forth. But these are, I'm one of those guys that, you know, you're right. I do need some sort of psychological help because my wife and I were joking, you know, what if we won the lottery? She said, what would you do? And I said, well, I guess I would just keep writing until all the money was gone. I might write one book a year instead of two, but I just enjoy writing. It's my catharsis. It's, I mean, obviously I do because I wrote for 25 years almost every night before, you know, and on, you know, dead heading back on prisoner trips. And I had a college professor get me aside one time because he saw that I was wasting my time flirting with the girls and procrastinating and all that. And he pulled me aside and he said, you know, Mark, you are going to amount to something if you can stop acting this way. And he said, you will never amount to your full potential unless you learn to utilize those 15-minute segments of time that everybody else wastes. And I really took him to heart. So, when I would be, like yesterday, we were at the airport and Barrow, Utqiagvik Airport, Barrow Airport is this tiny little airport with like 14 seats and when somebody arrives and people are leaving, you're all kind of run into one another. And so, we got there a little bit early and I spent two hours working on Bad River in the Barrow Airport because I had the time. Where, you know, friends of mine that like video games or online poker or whatever, that's what they do and good on them. That's their deal. I just, it's enjoyable to me to get into the, get in that, like you were saying that kind of, I get in kind of a fugue state and my wife has to sometimes throw something at me to get me to, you know, come out. Well, you know, it kind of goes back to the old saying too that if you find a job you like, you'll never work a day in your life. Oh, and you know, you're absolutely right and I think I could probably end on this if you guys are ready to go but I get asked a lot, especially at writing gigs because I'm arguably fairly successful at this. We've hit bestseller lists and we're selling well and be able to travel and all of that and I get asked all the time, man, what is it like to have your dream job? And I, every time, the best job in the world and I say, you know what? This is the second best job in the world. There's not a day that goes by that I don't miss the people of the martial service and the mission. I don't miss the politics but I miss the people and the mission and I already had the best career that I could have ever hoped for. I loved going to work, loved my job and now I am so supremely blessed to get this whole another career that the readers that I get to meet, the people I get to go back and research for the Clancy's or the Cutters or the Jericho's, I don't want to get all weepy but I've got a lot of gratitude because I get to keep my toe in the water with the SWAT team here. One of the guys that's one of the snipers on the SWAT team here called me the other day and said, hey, I got some stories for you. Let's go walking at the track. Who gets to do that? My son's not there. Maybe he's just calling me and saying, I want you to feel relevant, old man. Let's come walk around with me. But who gets to keep their toe in the water with law enforcement when they're 61 years old and get to hear the war stories and get to go hang out with the SWAT guys or fly around in a V-22 with the Marine Corps because I write silly books. I just watch those Ospreys, man. And talk to you guys. I get to talk to you guys. Hey, I'm too old to die tragically young. I can fly an Osprey whenever I want. There you go. I got to tell you, I've started supporting the, I live in Orlando, Florida, and I've started supporting the Orlando Police and their police foundation. And through that, they have the annual SWAT competition, the SWAT Roundup. So I've already gotten an invitation this November to come out to the SWAT Roundup, which is right here in Orlando with teams all over the United States and several teams from other countries come in for competition, man. I can't wait. I'm excited. Isn't that wonderful to see that? It gives you hope for the future. I wanted to have in the last Clancy and two Clancy's ago because the second to the last one was set in 1985. So it's kind of a throwback. But chain of command and command and control, which is my last one, they both feature a young Abilene PD SWAT officer. And I wanted it to be APD because all my buddies here, my son's buddies with Anchorage PD, so I could write APD and I could sort of swipe some of their names, the name characters and all that. So I flew out to Fort Worth and drove to Abilene and just cold called them out on email. And they said, yeah, come on out. Was out there with Abilene PD and Abilene PD SWAT stellar. And it just does my heart good to see these young men and women that are the future, the present and the future. And I think guys our age, we have a tendency to go, ah, these kids today. But man, I'm pretty proud of these people that I get to meet. Absolutely. We had two Orlando officers shot here about six weeks ago. And fortunately, both recovering and the jerk that pulled the trigger is in the ground now where he belongs. But I had the honor. And I'm still shocked that this even happened, that there's a lieutenant down there I'm good buddies with, John Cute. And John said, hey, would you come in and talk to the SWAT and the tactical squads? Just tell them, tell me a little story. We're going to hold a little luncheon here. We'll cater in Panera or whatever. And get up in 45, 60 minutes. Just tell them your story. And I've been retiring now for 10 years. I was a cop for 38 years. But to have the honor to stand in front of these young studs, these young men and women who are out there so proud to be wearing the badge, so proud to be wearing police on their clothing, it's just a true honor. And they're probably looking at me like I'm an idiot because I'm fangirling over these guys. And they're like, well, we want to hear your story. I'm like, dude, I want to hear what you did last night. What happened? Just tell me. Well, I got a really important question for you, though. Will we see Jericho and Arlist ever team up in the future? You know, I don't know. It's such a different world. The Jericho books are, I always like to say they're possible, but not plausible. Think of the Jericho's as Jason Bourne. And I mean, everything he does can be done on his motorcycles or whatever. But it's almost a different universe. But it's funny you mention that because my editor has sort of teased that idea. But I don't know, we'll see. There is a deputy marshal in the Jericho books named August Bowen that is kind of a blueprint of Arlist Cutter. But then when I spun him off, it grew quite a bit from my August Bowen into Arlist Cutter. So if you read maybe like the fifth Jericho on, there's a character in there that might be pretty reminiscent of Arlist Cutter. His name's, but his name's Gus Bowen. Very cool. And folks, you can find him to markcameronbooks.com. That's correct, right? markcameronbooks.com. And it's Mark M-A-R-C, not M-A-R-K. M-A-R-C.

Game of Crimes
"clancy" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"But it's a way so when I write it, I can explain, you know, we eat cheese, so, you know, blue cheese. But it's not something I would serve to guests or anything, but it's nice to know when I write what it smells like and tastes like that I can feel the fizziness on my tongue and explain that to people. You can feel the bile coming up from your system when you're throwing up. Yeah, exactly. The muktuk, I enjoy. The other was acquired taste. And I don't, you know, I don't like to make fun of other people's food. It's what they had to do to survive. But the muktuk is actually good. I like, it's the skin and the blubber, and you can slice that really thin and eat it with soy sauce and whatnot. It's sushi. The skin is actually very thick and it kind of, it's like a rubber tire. It gets in your teeth. But so there's that, there's the interior of Alaska and a train that goes into remote parts of the country that my wife and I have taken the trains. I try to keep up with my, I'm not a big buy my book, buy my book on social media. What I do try to do is give my readers who are already there some added value by saying, hey, take a look at the research I did for Breakneck or in this, the new book that's coming up is called Bad River. Take a look at the research I'm doing for Bad River so you can kind of look for those sorts of things in the book. So that's fun. I get to travel around Alaska and meet old friends that I knew from when I was with the Marshall Service and went to all these places. I just looked up Barrow, Alaska on Google Maps here. That's like the farthest point north in Alaska. It is. It is the farthest point in the United States north. And that's where I was standing.

Game of Crimes
Fresh update on "clancy" discussed on Game of Crimes
"But it's a way so when I write it, I can explain, you know, we eat cheese, so, you know, blue cheese. But it's not something I would serve to guests or anything, but it's nice to know when I write what it smells like and tastes like that I can feel the fizziness on my tongue and explain that to people. You can feel the bile coming up from your system when you're throwing up. Yeah, exactly. The muktuk, I enjoy. The other was acquired taste. And I don't, you know, I don't like to make fun of other people's food. It's what they had to do to survive. But the muktuk is actually good. I like, it's the skin and the blubber, and you can slice that really thin and eat it with soy sauce and whatnot. It's sushi. The skin is actually very thick and it kind of, it's like a rubber tire. It gets in your teeth. But so there's that, there's the interior of Alaska and a train that goes into remote parts of the country that my wife and I have taken the trains. I try to keep up with my, I'm not a big buy my book, buy my book on social media. What I do try to do is give my readers who are already there some added value by saying, hey, take a look at the research I did for Breakneck or in this, the new book that's coming up is called Bad River. Take a look at the research I'm doing for Bad River so you can kind of look for those sorts of things in the book. So that's fun. I get to travel around Alaska and meet old friends that I knew from when I was with the Marshall Service and went to all these places. I just looked up Barrow, Alaska on Google Maps here. That's like the farthest point north in Alaska. It is. It is the farthest point in the United States north. And that's where I was standing.

Game of Crimes
"clancy" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"And so, a better part of a week in, there's a place called the Peters Creek Drainage. A better part of a week in, they asked us to come in and we had what they call a point last seen or a last known point. Different trackers call it a certain thing. We call it a last known point or, I mean, a point last seen. So, they took me up by helicopter, put me in that place where we knew that he had been seen. And if you can imagine, you guys ever plowed with a Troy built tiller? You know, when you go over dirt with a tiller or something like that? So, the sheep gut pile had been there and all the blood and all that. The bears had come in after he had left and it just looked like it had been tilled. The whole side of the mountain, there was no hair. There was no, I mean, you could tell, I guess I saw like a tuft of white hair, but there was no bone and you bone out. You don't want to carry that off a mountain. So, there should have been bones and stuff there. I could tell this was a kill site, but the bears had just eaten the dirt and pooped the dirt. I mean, they had just done everything. But I was able to, what they asked me to do is backtrack from there and find his spike camp. So, I was able to go through the mountains and found his spike camp and then there was snow in the high country. So, we were able to, most of the time, trackers don't find the lost person. We give azimuths to the people that are on the ground and air assets looking. So, I was able to say, you know, it looks like he went this way. There's some aged snow. And so, anyway, so I'm giving out that information, but I'm on this point of land. That's basically where the peak of the mountain comes off and it was not a hard climb. I mean, it was a decent climb, but I got halfway up there by helicopter, right? But it's just beautiful. And at that point, I was carrying, because I was doing so much hiking, carrying what we in the martial service call a Witzec shotgun. It's that little short 870. They sell them now called a Tac 14, I think. It's got a 14-inch barrel. This one has like an 11.5 or 12-inch barrel and a bird's head grip and really short shotgun. It fit in a scabbard right by my pack, so I could carry that for bear protection. So, I had my just regular pistol. At that point, I think they were making us carry Glocks. So, I was carrying my Glock 40. So, I wanted to have my 12-gauge with Brennecke slugs in it. So, I had that little 12-gauge and I'm sitting on this and I had the satellite phone and I'm straddling. So, one leg is in one valley, one leg is in the other valley. It's just this beautiful vista with glaciers. And I called my chief and I'm talking to her. Here's what's happening. I think they're going to find him down this wash. And I look across and there was beaters. There was people on four-wheelers and horses down in the valley. So, just on the mountain. So, not on my side, but on the mountain across from me. So, maybe 150 meters away, this brown bear sow comes rolling out of it. And I know she was a sow because there was a cub that kind of splintered off and went another way. She comes roaring out of the pucker brush, all this alder and stuff like that on the bottom and just fat rolling off of her. And it's fall time, so she's bulking up for the winter. And she's running up a mountain that's like your kitchen wall almost. And it's not slowing her down at all. And I remember thinking, this gun is not big enough. I need something I can put to my shoulder so I can hold it steady when this bear comes after me. Or at that time, I started carrying a 375 H &H Magnum. I was done with shotguns. I'm going to say in the words of a famous captain on a boat, we're going to need a bigger boat. Like you're going to need a bigger gun. It's just not going to be enough for this. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. They always say you don't need really a big gun. You just need a 22 so you can shoot your buddy in the knee and then run off and leave him for the bear. That was the old joke we used to tell out camping. Insert your favorite statement. Guy from Kansas, guy from Maine out camping, bear attacks the campsite. Guy from Kansas running around screaming, oh my God, we got to go. Guy from Maine putting on his shoes. Guy goes, Kansas goes, what are you doing? You can't outrun a bear. Don't have to outrun the bear. Just have to outrun you. That's right. That's right. Yeah, exactly. That's told quite often around the campfire. So I try to put, and we have so many isolated places. So in this particular, in Breakneck, for instance, there's a, well, there's some polar stuff up in Utqiagvik. Part of the action takes place. The front of the book is the barrow arches or the whalebone arches that overlook the Arctic Ocean. And if anybody looks on my social media, just Mark Cameron, you'll see me day before yesterday standing with a copy of that book in front of those arches. And it's about 34 degrees and the wind's blowing sideways. So, I try to put in the native culture that's in that area because, I mean, that's the predominantly who it is. It's Inupiaq people up there. On western Alaskets, Yup'ik people, interior, it's Athabaskan. But so, I try to put in that stuff in this particular book. In Breakneck, the action happens up in Utqiagvik out by the bright blue football field. There's so much culture and so much different out there. With some whales, and in fact, I've got some whale in my fridge right now that we got up in Utqiagvik, some muktuk and also some, they call it fermented whale. But I think it's just controlled putrefaction, but it's safe to eat.

Game of Crimes
Fresh update on "clancy" discussed on Game of Crimes
"And so, a better part of a week in, there's a place called the Peters Creek Drainage. A better part of a week in, they asked us to come in and we had what they call a point last seen or a last known point. Different trackers call it a certain thing. We call it a last known point or, I mean, a point last seen. So, they took me up by helicopter, put me in that place where we knew that he had been seen. And if you can imagine, you guys ever plowed with a Troy built tiller? You know, when you go over dirt with a tiller or something like that? So, the sheep gut pile had been there and all the blood and all that. The bears had come in after he had left and it just looked like it had been tilled. The whole side of the mountain, there was no hair. There was no, I mean, you could tell, I guess I saw like a tuft of white hair, but there was no bone and you bone out. You don't want to carry that off a mountain. So, there should have been bones and stuff there. I could tell this was a kill site, but the bears had just eaten the dirt and pooped the dirt. I mean, they had just done everything. But I was able to, what they asked me to do is backtrack from there and find his spike camp. So, I was able to go through the mountains and found his spike camp and then there was snow in the high country. So, we were able to, most of the time, trackers don't find the lost person. We give azimuths to the people that are on the ground and air assets looking. So, I was able to say, you know, it looks like he went this way. There's some aged snow. And so, anyway, so I'm giving out that information, but I'm on this point of land. That's basically where the peak of the mountain comes off and it was not a hard climb. I mean, it was a decent climb, but I got halfway up there by helicopter, right? But it's just beautiful. And at that point, I was carrying, because I was doing so much hiking, carrying what we in the martial service call a Witzec shotgun. It's that little short 870. They sell them now called a Tac 14, I think. It's got a 14-inch barrel. This one has like an 11.5 or 12-inch barrel and a bird's head grip and really short shotgun. It fit in a scabbard right by my pack, so I could carry that for bear protection. So, I had my just regular pistol. At that point, I think they were making us carry Glocks. So, I was carrying my Glock 40. So, I wanted to have my 12-gauge with Brennecke slugs in it. So, I had that little 12-gauge and I'm sitting on this and I had the satellite phone and I'm straddling. So, one leg is in one valley, one leg is in the other valley. It's just this beautiful vista with glaciers. And I called my chief and I'm talking to her. Here's what's happening. I think they're going to find him down this wash. And I look across and there was beaters. There was people on four-wheelers and horses down in the valley. So, just on the mountain. So, not on my side, but on the mountain across from me. So, maybe 150 meters away, this brown bear sow comes rolling out of it. And I know she was a sow because there was a cub that kind of splintered off and went another way. She comes roaring out of the pucker brush, all this alder and stuff like that on the bottom and just fat rolling off of her. And it's fall time, so she's bulking up for the winter. And she's running up a mountain that's like your kitchen wall almost. And it's not slowing her down at all. And I remember thinking, this gun is not big enough. I need something I can put to my shoulder so I can hold it steady when this bear comes after me. Or at that time, I started carrying a 375 H &H Magnum. I was done with shotguns. I'm going to say in the words of a famous captain on a boat, we're going to need a bigger boat. Like you're going to need a bigger gun. It's just not going to be enough for this. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. They always say you don't need really a big gun. You just need a 22 so you can shoot your buddy in the knee and then run off and leave him for the bear. That was the old joke we used to tell out camping. Insert your favorite statement. Guy from Kansas, guy from Maine out camping, bear attacks the campsite. Guy from Kansas running around screaming, oh my God, we got to go. Guy from Maine putting on his shoes. Guy goes, Kansas goes, what are you doing? You can't outrun a bear. Don't have to outrun the bear. Just have to outrun you. That's right. That's right. Yeah, exactly. That's told quite often around the campfire. So I try to put, and we have so many isolated places. So in this particular, in Breakneck, for instance, there's a, well, there's some polar stuff up in Utqiagvik. Part of the action takes place. The front of the book is the barrow arches or the whalebone arches that overlook the Arctic Ocean. And if anybody looks on my social media, just Mark Cameron, you'll see me day before yesterday standing with a copy of that book in front of those arches. And it's about 34 degrees and the wind's blowing sideways. So, I try to put in the native culture that's in that area because, I mean, that's the predominantly who it is. It's Inupiaq people up there. On western Alaskets, Yup'ik people, interior, it's Athabaskan. But so, I try to put in that stuff in this particular book. In Breakneck, the action happens up in Utqiagvik out by the bright blue football field. There's so much culture and so much different out there. With some whales, and in fact, I've got some whale in my fridge right now that we got up in Utqiagvik, some muktuk and also some, they call it fermented whale. But I think it's just controlled putrefaction, but it's safe to eat.

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"And she said, Mark, Mark Graney's stepping away from the Clancy's and he has suggested your name. They would like you to write the next Jack Ryan. And my wife, I don't know what she thought was going on, but she knew it was something big so she took a picture of me. So somewhere deep in my social media, I'm standing in these goofy board shorts and with a straw hat on and I'm kind of clutching myself, listening to my phone with this stricken look on my face. And I told Robin, I said, well, you know, I've got another Jericho and I've got this Cutter coming out. I don't know if I have it. And she stopped me and she's got this marvelous accent. And she said, Mark, it's Clancy. Don't around. And I said, you're right. You're right. Yes, I will do it. I will absolutely do it. And they wouldn't let me talk about it for months and months and months. In fact, I broke the news. My wife and I go to an island in the South Pacific for a couple of months every year and do some writing there. It sounds snooty when I say that. We have friends there that let us stay at a reduced rate in their little bungalow, but it's a beautiful, beautiful place called Rarotonga. So I was on the beach in Rarotonga and I took a picture of me in a hammock with the Tom Clancy companion, you know, I'm reading that. But so it just sort of, I was very fortunate and had good friends and was at the right place at the right time with, you know, a product that the Clancy estate and Tom Colgan and Mark Graney liked and was able to sort of segue in and do all those and been very fortunate. That's amazing, too, because if I remember right, Ryan's literary agent is John Talbot. John Talbot at one time represented Tom Clancy. If I remember that right, was one of the first people to represent him. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, I've just said, yeah, Ryan was telling me about that. Yeah, but the literary agent, it's very important. So let's talk about this, too, because we got the advanced reader copy, but it is Arliss Cutter Breakneck. He's a force of nature, but so is the Alaskan wilderness. So what I found interesting is because, like I said, my history, my sister was born there. My dad was on the honor guard when Alaska became a state. And I've never had a chance to visit her. One of the few states I want to go to that I've never been. But it's just that thought of man, which Arliss Cutter is, man against nature. I mean, it's just like there are very few other epic battles that you can have. There could be bad guys, right? But the Alaskan wilderness doesn't give a shit who you are. It treats everybody the same. And I like what you were just saying, too. So tell us about this, but tell us about the research you were just doing, because you just got in your time late last night. You're four hours behind us from doing research for your next book. So like you said, you're out in a village. So tell us about this. Tell us about Breakneck, and then let's talk about what you're working on. Yeah, so Breakneck is the fifth in the Arliss Cutter series. And what I try to do, Arliss Cutter is a supervisory deputy marshal running the Alaska Fugitive Task Force, which is a multi-agency. It's a real task force, a multi-agency task force made up of usually, and it fluctuates, but we've had DEA helping us out. We've had even a part-time FBI agent. We have ATF agents. We have APD, Anchorage Police Department, Alaska State Troopers, and some are on part time, some are on full time. But we generally have a full-time trooper, full-time Anchorage Police, and then the feds kind of, as they have enough personnel, they'll send people over. And sometimes state parole will come over because they have arrest authority. So work together to get these bad guys off the street. It makes for a really good milieu to plunk my characters in too, because Alaska is a place that, as you mentioned, it's pretty dangerous. We have bumper stickers up here that say, step out of the RV and into the food chain. And it's just a wild place. And in fact, you mentioned I just got back from a place that used to be called Barrow, Alaska. In fact, the airport is still Barrow, the Wiley Post, Will Rogers, Wiley Post. That's where they crashed in their airplane. But they've gone back to the native name, which is Utqiagvik. So when I say I was in Utqiagvik, that's because that's what they call it now. But when you get to the hotel, there's a big sign on the door saying, be bear aware. There's polar bears out here. Watch for polar bears. And they sometimes come into town. And I went to rent my little beat up Ford Escape rental car and it's covered with mud. And when it's not snowy there, it's muddy. It's either really dusty or really muddy. It's like an old frontier town. I just like the feel of being out there. But when I rented the car, the guy showing the rental car said, hey, out at the edge of town, they just saw a big fat polar bear and he showed me a video. This polar bear was the size of a Volkswagen or probably a Mini Cooper. It's a big polar bear just rolling along and pretty fat on seals and probably some caribou. And so the guy that I was with who works with the school districts, he helped me a lot with research and he's lived up there. So we were driving around on the edge of town and right at the edge of town, this polar bear has got a caribou down and it's just covered in mud and laying out on the tundra just munching down. And we were literally in the middle of, there was no one else around. We were two miles out of town. It would have been a long, and I should say two miles out of town, it was in between town and the high school football field. So a mile and a half either direction, it would have been a very long walk for that polar bear within a hundred. Because polar bears, they're not like brown bears or black, we call a grizzly a brown bear in Alaska, but they're not like grizzlies or black bears in that you could play bit dead or fight it off or whatever. Polar bears, for one thing, there's no trees to climb, but for the other thing, polar bears consider humans food. So they don't run away from you unless they think they're being hunted, but they actually stalk you as food. Polar bears are pretty dangerous. So that's just an example of the wilderness. But beyond that, I remember my editor early on in the Cutter books, he said, you can't do the storm thing anymore. There can't be a storm isolating everybody. Why you got another storm? I said, well, we just call that Tuesday here in Alaska because that's just the way it is. It's not uncommon at all. In fact, last night even, we'd been there three nights and we're watching the weather just hoping because the fog would roll in. If the fog's there, the airplanes circle around just long enough to know they got enough fuel to get back to anchors, then they leave. And so I've been stranded in Barrow Utqiagvik many times. I've been stranded out on the coast, the western Alaska coast by the Bering Sea by fog and Kodiak. There's just so many ways that the moose, right after I first moved here, I'd been, this is in 98. And so I was working the task force when I first moved here with APD and we had a guy that was in a house, had barricaded and we tried to make the arrest. He barricaded. So we had APD with their MP5s and there's a couple of deputies and we had the house surrounded and the houses were pretty close together, but there were easements through the houses for wild animals and for kids to go to school and sort of walk to the bus stops. And so I'm like pressed up against the window where the bad guy is behind me inside and we can hear the negotiators talking. So we've got the four points of the house watching the house. So I'm this way near a bollard that I think I was by a chimney, so I wasn't worried about getting hit in the back. And I hear one of the APD guy, Anchorage Police guys, kind of kitty cornered from me by the fence and he goes and he's kind of standing up with his MP5 and I hear him go like that, kind of, hey, heads up everybody. And we all looked over and this mama moose that had to be seven feet tall at the withers come and her ears are pinned back, her hackles are up and she's got, and this is, I moved up in April, so this would have been around May. So all the babies are just hitting the ground. So she's got these two brand new chocolate brown baby moose and she is on guard and she's marching right through all the police officers outside, just daring us. And I could have reached out and scratched her ribs. She was that close, she just came by. So I'm like, you know, squashed up against the house. It's just by the grace of God, I didn't get stomped a pudding that day. So moose, avalanche, bears, volcanoes, fallen, we've had deputies fall through the ice, you know, just up to their knees. But if you're chasing somebody and you fall through the ice up to your knees and it's 17 below, you're done. You go back to the car and, or if you keep chasing, you lose your toes, right? So there's just so many and I absolutely love it. There's just, you know that, you know, I've got, I mean, it's a big thing with, and I'm a gun guy, I'm a Second Amendment guy, but up here, you can have a gun on. You need to have a gun on. When you go out to the, if I go hiking with my grandkids, I got a 44 Magnum Smith & Wesson here, not somewhere in my pack or not stuck down underneath my belt or even my shirt. It is here. And there's just a, I like not, well, just to go out to take the garbage out. We may have a black, we haven't ever had any problems. We have black bears in our yard all the time. And then just up the road, like within less than a mile. In fact, I just got a Facebook post last week about four miles from my house. This lady posted that, hey, if anybody hears shots, a grizzly bear just chased a black bear up a tree and killed it and buried it, you know, in my front yard. So be careful when you're walking around out here. So now add that to hunting fugitives. And, you know, I remember times when we would go out and even for training, for tracking training, because we do a lot of man tracking stuff up here, or I talk like I'm still doing it. We did a lot of man tracking stuff up here. And we would have the rabbit, you know, the FBI agent or National Guard or whoever, you know, we'd be training other agencies. They'd be off the rabbit run ahead. And then the other agency people that were trained would go ahead of them and we'd be in contact by radio and it would be their tracks. We'd see the rabbit's tracks, you know, the query, the fugitive, see the tracks. And on top of those tracks, we'd see like an 11-inch, 12-inch, 14-inch bear track that's filling with water as we're standing there. And so, you know, we're like calling like, hey, you got company coming up behind you. And when you're out there like that, an MP, you know, a 9-millimeter or an M4 with a 20-round mag, 223 ammo looks awfully puny when you're looking at a brown bear. I remember being up on a tracking mission where I was the primary tracker up in really just a little north of where I live. There was a doll sheep hunter that had gone missing. We got called in to track for search and rescue as well as fugitives. And this doll sheep hunter had gone missing and the last he had been seen, the troopers had landed on him in their helicopter. And he was way up in the mountains. They'll sometimes, they'll be talking to a hunter. You might have seen something like this on Alaska State Troopers, but they'll be talking to one hunter and that hunter will say, well, I heard a shot over there and, you know, they check his or her paperwork. So, the helicopter flew over. They landed on this hunter. He had the doll sheep down. He had all his paperwork right. And he'd already been up in the mountains like four or five days. And so, the sheep is down. He was out of water at this spot because his spy camp is further up the mountain. So, the troopers gave him some water and said, are you doing okay? He said, yeah, I'm doing fine. I just appreciate the water. Since his license is okay, they flew away. And then he didn't show up again at home for four days. And he should have been home like late the next night or possibly the next.

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"And so, I went back to work and I wrote this, what I thought was going to be a one-off. At that time, my son had just graduated the Air Force Academy and was going to be an OSI agent. So, I thought, nobody knows about the OSI. I'll make this super OSI agent to speak several languages. I love Japan and speak Japanese. My son speaks Mandarin. So, I put all these different qualities together and made this character named Jericho Quinn. And I ride motorcycles. I ride a BMW GS. At that time, my friend was riding a GS. I thought, that is a cool bike. So, I put Jericho on this BMW GS adventure, gave him a bunch of languages, made him an amalgam of all these cool people I've known, including Tommy Norris. And we've sold hundreds of thousands of copies. The book that I thought was going to be a one-off, we've done eight and two novellas. I decided, I'm going to dust off. We were doing well enough. We hit the New York Times. We were doing well enough that I asked my agent, I said, I want to do that other book about Alaska Natives and kids and all that. And she said, yeah, I can get you a contract for that because the Jericho's were doing well enough. And so, Kensington, I got a contract for the Cutters, started riding the Cutters. In the meantime, I was at a conference in New Orleans, I think, called Voucher Con, which is a mystery and thriller. No, sorry, I was going to say, I just got a note. David Baldacci was just down there. He actually lives not too far from me. I've run into him a couple of times. He's done book signings and stuff, and he just got back from Voucher Con. Yeah, Voucher Con, it goes on every year. And it's a really great conference, obviously for me, for networking, because I had known Mark Graney a little bit. We had met a couple of times. My wife and I had dinner with him, and I love his Gray Man books. And then he was writing the Clancy's at the time. So we just kind of passed in the hotel one evening and he said, hey, what are you working on right now, working on another Jericho? And I said, well, I'm just turning into Jericho and I'm starting this new series as well. Still going to do the Jericho's. And he goes, well, hey, before that Jericho comes out, why don't you send me a copy of the manuscript and I'll give you a cover blurb? Well, any author knows that that's the coin of the realm, man, especially from somebody like Mark Graney. And I hate asking for cover quotes because I know how busy I am. And I've got six or seven right now that I'm supposed to get to that I haven't gotten to yet and I want to. I want to help other writers, but it's just a matter of time, right? So for somebody like Mark to offer, I was, wow, this is cool. So absolutely. So I sent him an e-copy of one of the, you know, the Advanced Read copies and sent him that. And unbeknownst to me, he was stepping away from the Clancy gig. He had done seven and he gave that to Tom Colgan at Penguin Random House slash Putnam who does the Tom Clancy's. And I don't know whether I was the second choice or third choice or fifth choice, but whoever else was really good said no. And somehow they got down to me and they liked the Jericho books. And so I was down in Florida, down in Port Charlotte area, staying at my barber. My barber has a house down there she goes to in the winter and she's letting me stay down there with my wife. So we were researching the Arliss Cutter book, the first Arliss Cutter book called Open Carry. And I was on the beach at Manasota Key there looking at shark teeth and my phone rang and it was Robin Rue.

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"And so, I went back to work and I wrote this, what I thought was going to be a one-off. At that time, my son had just graduated the Air Force Academy and was going to be an OSI agent. So, I thought, nobody knows about the OSI. I'll make this super OSI agent to speak several languages. I love Japan and speak Japanese. My son speaks Mandarin. So, I put all these different qualities together and made this character named Jericho Quinn. And I ride motorcycles. I ride a BMW GS. At that time, my friend was riding a GS. I thought, that is a cool bike. So, I put Jericho on this BMW GS adventure, gave him a bunch of languages, made him an amalgam of all these cool people I've known, including Tommy Norris. And we've sold hundreds of thousands of copies. The book that I thought was going to be a one-off, we've done eight and two novellas. I decided, I'm going to dust off. We were doing well enough. We hit the New York Times. We were doing well enough that I asked my agent, I said, I want to do that other book about Alaska Natives and kids and all that. And she said, yeah, I can get you a contract for that because the Jericho's were doing well enough. And so, Kensington, I got a contract for the Cutters, started riding the Cutters. In the meantime, I was at a conference in New Orleans, I think, called Voucher Con, which is a mystery and thriller. No, sorry, I was going to say, I just got a note. David Baldacci was just down there. He actually lives not too far from me. I've run into him a couple of times. He's done book signings and stuff, and he just got back from Voucher Con. Yeah, Voucher Con, it goes on every year. And it's a really great conference, obviously for me, for networking, because I had known Mark Graney a little bit. We had met a couple of times. My wife and I had dinner with him, and I love his Gray Man books. And then he was writing the Clancy's at the time. So we just kind of passed in the hotel one evening and he said, hey, what are you working on right now, working on another Jericho? And I said, well, I'm just turning into Jericho and I'm starting this new series as well. Still going to do the Jericho's. And he goes, well, hey, before that Jericho comes out, why don't you send me a copy of the manuscript and I'll give you a cover blurb? Well, any author knows that that's the coin of the realm, man, especially from somebody like Mark Graney. And I hate asking for cover quotes because I know how busy I am. And I've got six or seven right now that I'm supposed to get to that I haven't gotten to yet and I want to. I want to help other writers, but it's just a matter of time, right? So for somebody like Mark to offer, I was, wow, this is cool. So absolutely. So I sent him an e-copy of one of the, you know, the Advanced Read copies and sent him that. And unbeknownst to me, he was stepping away from the Clancy gig. He had done seven and he gave that to Tom Colgan at Penguin Random House slash Putnam who does the Tom Clancy's. And I don't know whether I was the second choice or third choice or fifth choice, but whoever else was really good said no. And somehow they got down to me and they liked the Jericho books. And so I was down in Florida, down in Port Charlotte area, staying at my barber. My barber has a house down there she goes to in the winter and she's letting me stay down there with my wife. So we were researching the Arliss Cutter book, the first Arliss Cutter book called Open Carry. And I was on the beach at Manasota Key there looking at shark teeth and my phone rang and it was Robin Rue.

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"I've got many friends that are attorneys as well, but I have my thoughts. Don't we all? Well, let's talk about this too, because I want to make sure we get into talking about your books. So, did you start writing the stuff like the... Your one that you're doing here now, the Arliss Cutter novels. Did you start writing those while you were still on the martial service? How did your transition go from law enforcement to punching out and doing this and getting into Tom Clancy? Yeah, so I wrote a couple of westerns because of my background as a horseshoer and all that. So, I thought, you know, I grew up in Texas. Most of my rejection letters were for short stories and things like that. But so, I wrote a couple of westerns and I decided I'm going to go to a... And I was still with the marshals and I decided I was going to go to a writer's conference for western writers that focused on western literature. So, I went to a conference in Helena, Montana. At those writers conferences, a lot of times they'll have like speed dating. You sit down with an editor or agent for three or four or five minutes, pitch your idea and then move on to the next one. And they either give you a card and say, yeah, send me three chapters or I don't really think this is for us, whatever. Well, anyway, one of the editors there asked me for three chapters. And so, I sent her the chapters for this western. And of course, before I did, I sent it to all my friends, you know, FedExed it to all my friends and said, hey, could you look this over for me and really, you know, bleed all over with the red ink? Because I thought it was ready until somebody really wanted to see it. Then I got terrified. So, we fixed those three chapters, sent it on. And then my wife called me and it was, looking back now, it's kind of chuckly, but it was a sad day because my wife called me and she said, her dad was quite old when she was born. And so, he was 90 years old and she said, my father's dying, we need to go to Calgary. And I said, oh man, you know, I love my father-in-law. Just a World War II vet, a fantastic guy. And she said, and they called and they want to publish your book. And so, I was like, gosh, this guy's love is passing away, but this is my break, you know? So, I'm torn emotionally. So, we go to Calgary, we get to talk to my father-in-law and then he passes away. He's a very, just a wonderful guy. I get on the phone with Ann at the publisher and she says, I can't get your book in the publication list because it's going to be like 18 months, two years before I can do that, but I do have a book that I need finished. It's by another author. Can you finish that up for me? And it'll be, you know, just be ghostwriting it. And he's a well-known author. We see his books in stores all the time. And I said, yeah, whatever you need me to do, absolutely, I'll do it. So, she FedExed me a whole bunch of the books, said, read these over, tell me if you think, you know, and then we've got to get on this. So, I read them over. Absolutely, I can do this. I call back and the receptionist at the publisher said, I said, I need to speak to Ann. And she said, well, Ann doesn't work here anymore. And I said, oh, well, I'm taking over for this author. And the receptionist said, that's between you and Ann and hung up the phone. And I was orphaned again. And so, you know, my leave is running out. I'm getting ready to go back to Alaska to start back up. And I get an email out of the blue from a literary agent named Robin Rue, which is Writer's House Literary Agency. And she introduced herself. This is my name. She said, Ann is a friend of mine and she gave me your pages. I've read them over. I would like to represent you. And so, I was like, yes, please. I would love to do that. And so, I ended up getting my literary agent that way. She got me back in with the publisher. I ended up ghostwriting two of those books. They published two of my own westerns under the name Mark Henry. And then one day she called me on the phone and said, you know, Mark, I really think you should branch out into thrillers. And so, I wrote, you know, because there's not as many people reading westerns and with your background. So, I got permission from the martial service to write as long as I didn't contract myself. In other words, I had to write everything on spec. I couldn't get paid ahead of time because I couldn't be beholden to somebody by contract because of, mainly because of availability pay. You have to be available 24-7 to go work. And so, I wrote a book, sent it off. She tried it at all around New York. Nobody wanted it. I thought she was going to drop me. But instead, she said, we'll do it again. Write another one. So, I spent another year, wrote another book. And it was about Alaska Native kids and Prince of Wales Island and a murder that the kids saw and some different things. And I sent it off. And again, it didn't seem like anybody wanted it. Then I got Robin, my agent, forwarded me an email with a rejection letter on it, but it was a page and a half long.

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"Okay, so the next time I asked for a ride, I didn't get one. No, that's when you look at the other people and say, I meant to do that. Yeah, I meant to do that. Exactly. Well, yeah, that's what you do when your lights are on and they look at you, you just speed through the light and go on to some fake call somewhere, right? Drive like hell. Hey, I want to start progressing into talking about your books, but I want to talk about your time on the Marshalls. When you look back, what's one of the most impactful cases or impactful investigations or things that you did? Because when we had Billy Sarukas on, we talked about the DC Sniper. You guys do some just fantastic work. You've got some great technology. We talked earlier, Blair Dean, when he used to run the TOG, the tactical operations group, some of the stuff you guys do with phones, I mean, just amazing stuff. When you look back on it, what's one or two things that just really stick out to you and you think back and you go, I'm glad. Maybe it wasn't the biggest case, but you look at it and you go, that one made a difference. I really liked that one. Have you got one or two like that? Yeah, sure. It's interesting and I'm actually, in the book I'm working on now, I'm making a comparison. One of the things I really liked about the Marshall Service is you could start your day working with all kinds of tech, especially in Alaska and North Idaho, working with all kinds of technical equipment. Back when I was starting, it was pagers and things like that. That's kind of a cool thing. In the Clancy books, I could talk about pager technology and all that that we don't really use now, so it's not sensitive anymore. But working with phones and computers and all kinds of stuff, and then two hours later, be tracking somebody's boots on the ground through bear country up here and really have to do it the old way. And so, I really like that. I kind of gravitated towards rural work because yeah, we still use cell phone technology. We still use all that stuff, even in rural areas, as far as tracking people and even social media stuff, but we really have to rely on knowing how to physically man track and that sort of thing. So early on in my career, I really enjoyed the high tech, using pagers, using cell phones when they came. I sat next to a guy in the academy who is just a brilliant, brilliant deputy. Even back in 1991, he had a stack of papers about cell phone technology and he realized back then, this is the future of tracking fugitives. And so, he worked with Blair and those guys and I don't like to name their names because he's still kind of half in the business, but he's just a brilliant guy and he helps me quite a bit with the Clancy's as well. So, I really enjoyed those sorts of things and the cases were many, but when I got to North Idaho, we had a case. Now again, you guys mentioned Weaver and Ruby Ridge and all that. So that's the zeitgeist up there, the feeling and the kind of the anti-fed and the animosity and stuff like that. So we went into that and then we had a guy that was wanted on a... He was just wanted on a federal parole warrant. So back then, we had a lot more parole warrants and then, of course, parole got abolished, but we still had a few people wanted on parole. Now it's all supervised release. And we like parole warrants because there was no court. You just arrested the guy and took him to prison. When you violated parole, you just went back to jail. There was no, you know, pass and go or anything. You just went to prison, not even the county jail, the nearest, because they were property of the Bureau of Prisons as far as what the courts saw. So we were looking for this guy, his name was Farron Loveless. And as we started investigating more, we learned that he was a suspect in kidnapping a Jewish couple across the state line into Spokane. He held them hostage in their own home for three days, two days maybe, but I think a couple of nights. And he had like fed their dogs and snuck up to their house and got in and held them hostage. And he had been in prison, then he jumped parole and then come over here. And he had a hit list of a bunch of feds he wanted to kill and not just feds. So we're learning all this little stuff on him that kind of blossomed out of this parole warrant. And we worked it for a number of months, but we started to learn that he was just really a bad guy. But as we got an informant involved and some other people, we learned that he was hiding up on a mountain. He had married a woman, he was in his late 30s, and he had married an older woman in her 60s that had a son and a grandson. And she had Social Security and stored food and kind of back before prepping was a thing, she was a prepper. And so he had basically gotten all her food and he had his...because he was really living a life on the run, completely disconnected. He had no phone, no nothing. So he had moved this teenage boy and this 60-year-old woman up into the mountains of North Idaho and they built their encampment up there. And they had booby traps, they had fish hooks hanging from monofilament. You might recognize this if you've read the book there. He had split pieces of wood with shotgun shells up through the middle of them and buried all around for like homemade land mines and various booby traps around. But now imagine in that situation when I write a note to headquarters that says, hey, we got this guy and a woman and a teenage boy up on a mountain in North Idaho, we'd like to go get him. They said, not in a million years are you going to go up and have a gunfight on a mountain in North Idaho with a teenage boy and a woman and a fugitive. And so we had to come up with a lot of different plans and it ended up that my partner who had been working on it with me, this was back after the first World Trade Center bombings, and he was part of our special operations group. So we were protecting the judges back in New York. So he had to rotate out every few weeks and go back and help with the protective details. And so he was out of town, so it was me and the FBI where they had helped work on the case because we all had to work together. And there was an FBI agent named Tom Norris, who's a Medal of Honor recipient, I should say. Tommy Norris, he's the only FBI agent I ever met with a glass eye. He's the guy that saved Bat-21. So, I mean, just a phenomenal dude and he mentored my oldest son. He's just a very unassuming, FBI let him get away with what he wanted to because he was a Medal of Honor recipient and really just a class act. So he was helping on it. So we came up with a plan to lure Farron off the mountain. And originally, he had a bicycle and we knew he would come down off this mountain. There was quite a hike up there, take his bicycle and maybe come into town once in a while for supplies. And so I came up with a plan to put a flashbang next to the bike and we'd hide and we'd lure him down to the bicycle and then get him there. Headquarters said, nope, no flashbangs on a mountain. So we came up with another plan and Farron was super prejudiced, super white supremacist, super prejudiced. So we said, we sent our informant back up and this is all not sensitive now because it's all come out in court. But we sent the informant back up and he said, hey, there's a Hispanic gun dealer in town that wants to buy some guns, but he's got two white girls that he's pimping out in Priest River, Idaho and you might want to come down and sell him some guns and take care of cleaning up the race a little bit. And Farron actually said, I'm going to come down and do that. I'm going to come down and get, I'm going to sell him some guns in air quotes and take care of this Hispanic guy that's pimping out white girls. And I mean, that's just the way his brain worked. And so we set up the time and we had Boundary County deputy sheriffs and Bonner County deputy sheriffs and Tom Norris and I. And the plan was when Farron came riding by on his bicycle, there's a long, long bridge outside Priest River, Idaho that goes over Priest Lake. And we were going to pinch him in the middle of the bridge because we knew he was going to be armed. He had a hit list and he had a violent past. And so Tommy was behind him and I was coming up to meet him. And the idea was when he got on the bridge, we'd get him pinched between our two cars and arrest him so he didn't, nobody else was in danger. We would close off the bridge. Well, as Tommy got in, Tom Norris got in behind him, he saw that he had a pistol out the, like in his hip pocket. He had a GP 100 pistol in his hip pocket and a little backpack on and a little, like a 10-22 rifle sawed off sticking out the back of his backpack. And I mean, he's like the Wicked Witch of the West, you know, riding on his bicycle towards town to meet this guy. And Tommy, I don't know what happened, whether he touched the gun or what, but Tom pulled it beside him and just bumped him off the road. So he went ahead and endowed and went into the ditch. And so I sped up there and this all happened very fast. So he went into the ditch before he got onto the bridge. And so I was right there and there was a boundary county deputy right behind me in a marked unit. And so Tommy bailed out of his car. I bailed out of his car because of the way Tommy had to come around.

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A highlight from 118: Part 2: Marc Cameron - From Deputy US Marshal to Arliss Cutter to Tom Clancy
"Okay, so the next time I asked for a ride, I didn't get one. No, that's when you look at the other people and say, I meant to do that. Yeah, I meant to do that. Exactly. Well, yeah, that's what you do when your lights are on and they look at you, you just speed through the light and go on to some fake call somewhere, right? Drive like hell. Hey, I want to start progressing into talking about your books, but I want to talk about your time on the Marshalls. When you look back, what's one of the most impactful cases or impactful investigations or things that you did? Because when we had Billy Sarukas on, we talked about the DC Sniper. You guys do some just fantastic work. You've got some great technology. We talked earlier, Blair Dean, when he used to run the TOG, the tactical operations group, some of the stuff you guys do with phones, I mean, just amazing stuff. When you look back on it, what's one or two things that just really stick out to you and you think back and you go, I'm glad. Maybe it wasn't the biggest case, but you look at it and you go, that one made a difference. I really liked that one. Have you got one or two like that? Yeah, sure. It's interesting and I'm actually, in the book I'm working on now, I'm making a comparison. One of the things I really liked about the Marshall Service is you could start your day working with all kinds of tech, especially in Alaska and North Idaho, working with all kinds of technical equipment. Back when I was starting, it was pagers and things like that. That's kind of a cool thing. In the Clancy books, I could talk about pager technology and all that that we don't really use now, so it's not sensitive anymore. But working with phones and computers and all kinds of stuff, and then two hours later, be tracking somebody's boots on the ground through bear country up here and really have to do it the old way. And so, I really like that. I kind of gravitated towards rural work because yeah, we still use cell phone technology. We still use all that stuff, even in rural areas, as far as tracking people and even social media stuff, but we really have to rely on knowing how to physically man track and that sort of thing. So early on in my career, I really enjoyed the high tech, using pagers, using cell phones when they came. I sat next to a guy in the academy who is just a brilliant, brilliant deputy. Even back in 1991, he had a stack of papers about cell phone technology and he realized back then, this is the future of tracking fugitives. And so, he worked with Blair and those guys and I don't like to name their names because he's still kind of half in the business, but he's just a brilliant guy and he helps me quite a bit with the Clancy's as well. So, I really enjoyed those sorts of things and the cases were many, but when I got to North Idaho, we had a case. Now again, you guys mentioned Weaver and Ruby Ridge and all that. So that's the zeitgeist up there, the feeling and the kind of the anti -fed and the animosity and stuff like that. So we went into that and then we had a guy that was wanted on a... He was just wanted on a federal parole warrant. So back then, we had a lot more parole warrants and then, of course, parole got abolished, but we still had a few people wanted on parole. Now it's all supervised release. And we like parole warrants because there was no court. You just arrested the guy and took him to prison. When you violated parole, you just went back to jail. There was no, you know, pass and go or anything. You just went to prison, not even the county jail, the nearest, because they were property of the Bureau of Prisons as far as what the courts saw. So we were looking for this guy, his name was Farron Loveless. And as we started investigating more, we learned that he was a suspect in kidnapping a Jewish couple across the state line into Spokane. He held them hostage in their own home for three days, two days maybe, but I think a couple of nights. And he had like fed their dogs and snuck up to their house and got in and held them hostage. And he had been in prison, then he jumped parole and then come over here. And he had a hit list of a bunch of feds he wanted to kill and not just feds. So we're learning all this little stuff on him that kind of blossomed out of this parole warrant. And we worked it for a number of months, but we started to learn that he was just really a bad guy. But as we got an informant involved and some other people, we learned that he was hiding up on a mountain. He had married a woman, he was in his late 30s, and he had married an older woman in her 60s that had a son and a grandson. And she had Social Security and stored food and kind of back before prepping was a thing, she was a prepper. And so he had basically gotten all her food and he had his...because he was really living a life on the run, completely disconnected. He had no phone, no nothing. So he had moved this teenage boy and this 60 -year -old woman up into the mountains of North Idaho and they built their encampment up there. And they had booby traps, they had fish hooks hanging from monofilament. You might recognize this if you've read the book there. He had split pieces of wood with shotgun shells up through the middle of them and buried all around for like homemade land mines and various booby traps around. But now imagine in that situation when I write a note to headquarters that says, hey, we got this guy and a woman and a teenage boy up on a mountain in North Idaho, we'd like to go get him. They said, not in a million years are you going to go up and have a gunfight on a mountain in North Idaho with a teenage boy and a woman and a fugitive. And so we had to come up with a lot of different plans and it ended up that my partner who had been working on it with me, this was back after the first World Trade Center bombings, and he was part of our special operations group. So we were protecting the judges back in New York. So he had to rotate out every few weeks and go back and help with the protective details. And so he was out of town, so it was me and the FBI where they had helped work on the case because we all had to work together. And there was an FBI agent named Tom Norris, who's a Medal of Honor recipient, I should say. Tommy Norris, he's the only FBI agent I ever met with a glass eye. He's the guy that saved Bat -21. So, I mean, just a phenomenal dude and he mentored my oldest son. He's just a very unassuming, FBI let him get away with what he wanted to because he was a Medal of Honor recipient and really just a class act. So he was helping on it. So we came up with a plan to lure Farron off the mountain. And originally, he had a bicycle and we knew he would come down off this mountain. There was quite a hike up there, take his bicycle and maybe come into town once in a while for supplies. And so I came up with a plan to put a flashbang next to the bike and we'd hide and we'd lure him down to the bicycle and then get him there. Headquarters said, nope, no flashbangs on a mountain. So we came up with another plan and Farron was super prejudiced, super white supremacist, super prejudiced. So we said, we sent our informant back up and this is all not sensitive now because it's all come out in court. But we sent the informant back up and he said, hey, there's a Hispanic gun dealer in town that wants to buy some guns, but he's got two white girls that he's pimping out in Priest River, Idaho and you might want to come down and sell him some guns and take care cleaning of up the race a little bit. And Farron actually said, I'm going to come down and do that. I'm going to come down and get, I'm going to sell him some guns in air quotes and take care of this Hispanic guy that's pimping out white girls. And I mean, that's just the way his brain worked. And so we set up the time and we had Boundary County deputy sheriffs and Bonner County deputy sheriffs and Tom Norris and I. And the plan was when Farron came riding by on his bicycle, there's a long, long bridge outside Priest River, Idaho that goes over Priest Lake. And we were going to pinch him in the middle of the bridge because we knew he was going to be armed. He had a hit list and he had a violent past. And so Tommy was behind him and I was coming up to meet him. And the idea was when he got on the bridge, we'd get him pinched between our two cars and arrest him so he didn't, nobody else was in danger. We would close off the bridge. Well, as Tommy got in, Tom Norris got in behind him, he saw that he had a pistol out the, like in his hip pocket. He had a GP 100 pistol in his hip pocket and a little backpack on and a little, like a 10 -22 rifle sawed off sticking out the back of his backpack. And I mean, he's like the Wicked Witch of the West, you know, riding on his bicycle towards town to meet this guy. And Tommy, I don't know what happened, whether he touched the gun or what, but Tom pulled it beside him and just bumped him off the road. So he went ahead and endowed and went into the ditch. And so I sped up there and this all happened very fast. So he went into the ditch before he got onto the bridge. And so I was right there and there was a boundary county deputy right behind me in a marked unit. And so Tommy bailed out of his car. I bailed out of his car because of the way Tommy had to come around.

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Fresh update on "clancy" discussed on Game of Crimes
"Okay, so the next time I asked for a ride, I didn't get one. No, that's when you look at the other people and say, I meant to do that. Yeah, I meant to do that. Exactly. Well, yeah, that's what you do when your lights are on and they look at you, you just speed through the light and go on to some fake call somewhere, right? Drive like hell. Hey, I want to start progressing into talking about your books, but I want to talk about your time on the Marshalls. When you look back, what's one of the most impactful cases or impactful investigations or things that you did? Because when we had Billy Sarukas on, we talked about the DC Sniper. You guys do some just fantastic work. You've got some great technology. We talked earlier, Blair Dean, when he used to run the TOG, the tactical operations group, some of the stuff you guys do with phones, I mean, just amazing stuff. When you look back on it, what's one or two things that just really stick out to you and you think back and you go, I'm glad. Maybe it wasn't the biggest case, but you look at it and you go, that one made a difference. I really liked that one. Have you got one or two like that? Yeah, sure. It's interesting and I'm actually, in the book I'm working on now, I'm making a comparison. One of the things I really liked about the Marshall Service is you could start your day working with all kinds of tech, especially in Alaska and North Idaho, working with all kinds of technical equipment. Back when I was starting, it was pagers and things like that. That's kind of a cool thing. In the Clancy books, I could talk about pager technology and all that that we don't really use now, so it's not sensitive anymore. But working with phones and computers and all kinds of stuff, and then two hours later, be tracking somebody's boots on the ground through bear country up here and really have to do it the old way. And so, I really like that. I kind of gravitated towards rural work because yeah, we still use cell phone technology. We still use all that stuff, even in rural areas, as far as tracking people and even social media stuff, but we really have to rely on knowing how to physically man track and that sort of thing. So early on in my career, I really enjoyed the high tech, using pagers, using cell phones when they came. I sat next to a guy in the academy who is just a brilliant, brilliant deputy. Even back in 1991, he had a stack of papers about cell phone technology and he realized back then, this is the future of tracking fugitives. And so, he worked with Blair and those guys and I don't like to name their names because he's still kind of half in the business, but he's just a brilliant guy and he helps me quite a bit with the Clancy's as well. So, I really enjoyed those sorts of things and the cases were many, but when I got to North Idaho, we had a case. Now again, you guys mentioned Weaver and Ruby Ridge and all that. So that's the zeitgeist up there, the feeling and the kind of the anti-fed and the animosity and stuff like that. So we went into that and then we had a guy that was wanted on a... He was just wanted on a federal parole warrant. So back then, we had a lot more parole warrants and then, of course, parole got abolished, but we still had a few people wanted on parole. Now it's all supervised release. And we like parole warrants because there was no court. You just arrested the guy and took him to prison. When you violated parole, you just went back to jail. There was no, you know, pass and go or anything. You just went to prison, not even the county jail, the nearest, because they were property of the Bureau of Prisons as far as what the courts saw. So we were looking for this guy, his name was Farron Loveless. And as we started investigating more, we learned that he was a suspect in kidnapping a Jewish couple across the state line into Spokane. He held them hostage in their own home for three days, two days maybe, but I think a couple of nights. And he had like fed their dogs and snuck up to their house and got in and held them hostage. And he had been in prison, then he jumped parole and then come over here. And he had a hit list of a bunch of feds he wanted to kill and not just feds. So we're learning all this little stuff on him that kind of blossomed out of this parole warrant. And we worked it for a number of months, but we started to learn that he was just really a bad guy. But as we got an informant involved and some other people, we learned that he was hiding up on a mountain. He had married a woman, he was in his late 30s, and he had married an older woman in her 60s that had a son and a grandson. And she had Social Security and stored food and kind of back before prepping was a thing, she was a prepper. And so he had basically gotten all her food and he had his...because he was really living a life on the run, completely disconnected. He had no phone, no nothing. So he had moved this teenage boy and this 60-year-old woman up into the mountains of North Idaho and they built their encampment up there. And they had booby traps, they had fish hooks hanging from monofilament. You might recognize this if you've read the book there. He had split pieces of wood with shotgun shells up through the middle of them and buried all around for like homemade land mines and various booby traps around. But now imagine in that situation when I write a note to headquarters that says, hey, we got this guy and a woman and a teenage boy up on a mountain in North Idaho, we'd like to go get him. They said, not in a million years are you going to go up and have a gunfight on a mountain in North Idaho with a teenage boy and a woman and a fugitive. And so we had to come up with a lot of different plans and it ended up that my partner who had been working on it with me, this was back after the first World Trade Center bombings, and he was part of our special operations group. So we were protecting the judges back in New York. So he had to rotate out every few weeks and go back and help with the protective details. And so he was out of town, so it was me and the FBI where they had helped work on the case because we all had to work together. And there was an FBI agent named Tom Norris, who's a Medal of Honor recipient, I should say. Tommy Norris, he's the only FBI agent I ever met with a glass eye. He's the guy that saved Bat-21. So, I mean, just a phenomenal dude and he mentored my oldest son. He's just a very unassuming, FBI let him get away with what he wanted to because he was a Medal of Honor recipient and really just a class act. So he was helping on it. So we came up with a plan to lure Farron off the mountain. And originally, he had a bicycle and we knew he would come down off this mountain. There was quite a hike up there, take his bicycle and maybe come into town once in a while for supplies. And so I came up with a plan to put a flashbang next to the bike and we'd hide and we'd lure him down to the bicycle and then get him there. Headquarters said, nope, no flashbangs on a mountain. So we came up with another plan and Farron was super prejudiced, super white supremacist, super prejudiced. So we said, we sent our informant back up and this is all not sensitive now because it's all come out in court. But we sent the informant back up and he said, hey, there's a Hispanic gun dealer in town that wants to buy some guns, but he's got two white girls that he's pimping out in Priest River, Idaho and you might want to come down and sell him some guns and take care of cleaning up the race a little bit. And Farron actually said, I'm going to come down and do that. I'm going to come down and get, I'm going to sell him some guns in air quotes and take care of this Hispanic guy that's pimping out white girls. And I mean, that's just the way his brain worked. And so we set up the time and we had Boundary County deputy sheriffs and Bonner County deputy sheriffs and Tom Norris and I. And the plan was when Farron came riding by on his bicycle, there's a long, long bridge outside Priest River, Idaho that goes over Priest Lake. And we were going to pinch him in the middle of the bridge because we knew he was going to be armed. He had a hit list and he had a violent past. And so Tommy was behind him and I was coming up to meet him. And the idea was when he got on the bridge, we'd get him pinched between our two cars and arrest him so he didn't, nobody else was in danger. We would close off the bridge. Well, as Tommy got in, Tom Norris got in behind him, he saw that he had a pistol out the, like in his hip pocket. He had a GP 100 pistol in his hip pocket and a little backpack on and a little, like a 10-22 rifle sawed off sticking out the back of his backpack. And I mean, he's like the Wicked Witch of the West, you know, riding on his bicycle towards town to meet this guy. And Tommy, I don't know what happened, whether he touched the gun or what, but Tom pulled it beside him and just bumped him off the road. So he went ahead and endowed and went into the ditch. And so I sped up there and this all happened very fast. So he went into the ditch before he got onto the bridge. And so I was right there and there was a boundary county deputy right behind me in a marked unit. And so Tommy bailed out of his car. I bailed out of his car because of the way Tommy had to come around.

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"clancy" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"Well, let's dive into a couple of your cases cause we wanna leave some time here at the end too to talk about your books and the stuff that you wrote. But when you reflect back on, I mean, how much of the people that you talk to and the cases that you work ended up in your novels? You know, I think the type of people I don't, I haven't ever based any, I've never based a character off people that we've dealt with, I've dealt with before, but it's certainly inspired people I've dealt with. And a lot of the goofy, and good and bad, you know? I mean, I had a guy that I arrested one time as a fairly young patrolman and a patrol officer. And they were building a new jail. And we had this very old jail with like the old- Strap iron? Like regular iron bars that swung and all that. Yeah, and riveted and all that. And it was a very interesting jail, but it was a kind of a jail where, you know, now there's sight and sound separation for males and females and juveniles and all that. But in this particular jail, it was like a big horseshoe with cells on either side and kind of the kitchen right in the middle. And the men were all on like the two, the straight and the curve of the horseshoe. And then the other flat was the few females. So they could hear each other. So you can imagine what it was like back there with men and women prisoners and what they, and just the, and they had us work the jail for two weeks when we started just to, so we would know what it was like and understand what the county was dealing with and all of that. So I base a lot of, if people read my books, they see there's, because marshals and really all law enforcement are in custodial situations a lot inside, we know, you guys know what a jail smells like. And to me, this jail smelled like chicken fried steak and flatulence. It was just, they had fed them really good, but just farts and fry oil, you know, and despair. So I try to put that kind of stuff in. And then the people, I arrested this guy. We were, I was, sorry, I digress. But we were, I had to take a dog leg out of the way to get to the jail. And he kind of, I could see him back there kind of squirming in my rear view mirror. And we had, you know, big, big square screens. I could see him very well. It wasn't, if they wanted to spit on us, they could spit on us. It wasn't like now with a plexiglass, but I could see him squirming and I could see it. And then we got kind of further out of the way and I had to kind of make a big U to get all the way back to the jail. And he started to sob in the back. And he was kind of a jerk. He's kind of a punky kid, but he started to sob. And I said, what's the matter with you? He goes, how come we're not going to the jail? And I said, we are going to jail. They're doing some work here. I gotta take it back. He goes, oh man, that's so good. Cause trooper so-and-so arrested me last week and beat the shit out of me and let me go. And I said, no, we're going to jail. That's all right. So this guy was a fighter. He was a fighter. It was not like somebody just got him and smacked him. He probably fought the guy. And then the trooper was like, you've learned your lesson. Now be on your way. So little whiny guys like that, I've put in the books.

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"Yeah, exactly. Oh, I get that a lot. I wrote some, I can't remember crime scenes, crime, it's a magazine. I can't remember, I'm gonna be in trouble for not remembering who I wrote it for, but I wrote a little article telling some of these stories. And the only comment on the article was, what an ass hat. I thought, oh yeah, I guess I kind of am. I didn't mean to be, I didn't like crack a whip, but she's just a great- She knows how to take care of business. Really helped out over the years. It seems to be common amongst law enforcement wives. She does, she does. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to be, I think. Interesting observation. I wanted to ask you about this too. You were in Texas, big grand Texas, nice and hot. What was the fascination about the North slope of Alaska? I mean, there could not be more two entirely different environments. Well, it's interesting you asked that, but it has to do with literature, has to do with books. I read Jack London as a kid. I read a book by a Canadian author named Farley Mowat. Some people, he wrote, he's written a lot of books, kind of environmentalist guy. In fact, I think he was banned from the United States for a while, because he threatened to shoot down some F-16s or something over acid rain back in the 80s. But he wrote a book called Two Against the North, about two boys that got stranded in the barren lands of Canada. And I read it when I was about 11, 12 years old, I guess about 10 and just fell in love with the North. But my wife's Canadian. I had to marry a Canadian girl. I love the North so much. But I read this when I was quite young and it was about hunting caribou and native cultures and living off the land. And these boys have to survive for most of a winter. And they find out that if you stare at the snow for very long and the bright lights, that you're gonna go snow blind. That's really hard on your eyes. And so they carved these little snow goggles, these Inuit snow goggles, so they could keep from getting snow blind. And so as a 10 or 11 year old boy, I got a cottonwood root out of her backyard and carved me some snow goggles in the warm around. I think my dad thought I was pretty detached. Something's wrong with this Texas kid wearing these snow goggles around. And then it was, I mean, that was weird. But I just always had a fascination with the North country. And so we did our time in Texas and I love Texas. I love the people, but I also love the mountains and the sea. And so we did our time in Texas with the PD and the Marshall service. And then I put in for a spot in North Idaho in Coeur d'Alene. And we were in Coeur d'Alene for four years, inch in our way North, and then right along the border there. And then when an opening came up in Alaska, I moved to Anchorage in 98. So about eight years into my career, seven years in my career. When you were in Coeur d'Alene, we know that there was some activity. Wasn't it the Weaver, I'm trying to think, Randy Weaver, some of the stuff tied to the Oklahoma City bombing, there were some compounds in Coeur d'Alene. Were you around during that time? No, that's when I went up there. So what had happened is my wife actually was diagnosed with breast cancer and her mother coincidentally was diagnosed at the same time. And so I put in for a hardship transfer with the Marshall service and they were originally said, no, we don't do that. But then when they found out what was going on, they allowed me to hardship transfer and they put me in Coeur d'Alene because my wife's family was from Calgary, Alberta. And so I just asked to be somewhere close to the border. I didn't have any, I didn't say where I wanted to go.

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"Yeah, and my wife actually, so we had two kids, but she was pregnant when I went to Glencoe to the train, to the Marshall's Academy. And I was out on a fun run. They call it those voluntary mandatory evening, you know, 10Ks that they would do. And so running through the Georgia woods and this golf cart and one of the armored limos that we used for training, we're on a cadence run. And it pulled up beside me and said, fall out and you're having a baby. And so I got in and I drove, they drove me back to building 20 and let me talk to my wife. And she had had our son, our youngest son that day, the one that's now a police officer. And then I talked to her for about five minutes and they said, so you're quitting? And I said, well, I'm only a month in. And I knew this was happening. And they said, all right. And then it drove me back out to the run and I finished the run. And then luckily that was around President's Day. So I got to go home and see the kid. But while I was in the Academy, so then I had three more months to go to the Academy. And while I was there, my wife took the new baby and the two older kids and loaded a U-Haul. And so it was, I'm kind of a jerk for, I mean, I feel like a jerk for having her do this while I was gone. But when I got home, she was already, I mean, I flew back. I never touched down in Weatherford. I flew into Dallas and went to my new house that my wife had all fixed up. And yeah, she was- That's a good woman. That's a good woman. Getting everything moved. I was gonna say, I bet your neighbor's lucky. Is this the dude who made you while you had a brand new baby pack the house and move while he's off? Oh, man.

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"So kind of a traffic circle around and then a big green around it and then parking meters all around. And I remember crossing from one of the little stores to a cafe there. So this would have been like back in 1976, 75 or 76. And this pickup pulled up in front of one of the parking meters and this tall lanky dude got out with a nice Stetson and he had a start shirt and starts jeans and his no jacket, just a gun with a big old silver star badge. And he took a canvas bag with a metal collar on it and he put it over the parking meter and locked it up. And it said, official business, US Marshal. So we didn't have to pay the dime, right? And I thought right then when I was 14, I want one of those bags. I want me one of those bags someday. So I'm gonna have to be a deputy marshal. And then as I grew up and I mean, watched True Grit and the old West Marshall. And of course that's where I grew up is that part of the world. So marshals were, they were cool people. I didn't really know what they did. Then once I got on with the department and I saw, and not to speak ill of any other agency, but there is an agency that will really want to have, they really want to be there when you make the arrest. There's a lot of, you know, just as a bureaucracy, they were great guys, men and women to work with. But when the marshals called and said, hey, we need help arresting this guy. If you see him, get him. There was no, it was more about the outcome, more about getting the bad guy in jail. Every time we worked with the marshals, it was a pleasure. And they would swoop in. I mean, to us, it was like they came down off Mount Olympus and dealt with us. We all know who you're talking about. Let's don't mention the FBI here. And I've got lots of friends with the Bureau, I really do. But the marshals were just, they were just, and the work was fun. I mean, I knew going in that there was going to be a lot of sitting in court. I knew there was going to be transporting prisoners and all that, but I'm the kind of guy that likes a little thinking time because I'm a writer. So sitting in court or taking a long, you know, hamburger marshal prisoner trip is not a bad thing for me because I get to do the quote unquote sexy stuff with fugitive work. And so when the time came and you guys remember, I'm sure you do, we would, before the internet, we would all order our pamphlets from whatever agency. And I got them from everybody. I even got them from the North Slope Borough of Alaska because I thought, well, I'm going to go up and be an Alaska State Trooper because I want adventure, but Alaska wouldn't hire anybody unless you lived here for a year and had residency. So I was going to go up and work the very top of Alaska, that North Slope. So I get pamphlets from them, pamphlets from the DEA, pamphlets from the ATF and the marshals. And we would pull up at night on night shift, pull up, you know, door to door, so we could pass pamphlets back and forth. And, hey, what have you got? Have you filled out an application for these guys? What are you hearing back from the Border Patrol? And it was a small department. We got paid, you know, we progressed and we're making decent, decent livings. But I would say probably maybe a quarter of the people that worked with me went to other agencies, the Bureau, the Border Patrol, Marshall Service, U.S. Customs. DEA wouldn't have any of us, dang it. Did anybody go to the Kansas Highway Patrol? I don't know, no, but I did have a Kansas Highway Patrol officer come work for me in Alaska in the Marshall Service. He came from them to me. I think I know who you're talking about. That wasn't one of the two that was killed in the plane accident, was he? No, no, this one came to work. This guy's name's Ryan Filson. He came up here from, I think he was Kansas Highway Patrol and worked with DHS, Health and Human Services, maybe. He was an OIG investigator. And then came, I recruited him to come work for us. Good guy, great guy. Merce just jealous because one of the guys that, quote, caught El Chapo the first time, he couldn't get on the Kansas Highway Patrol, but he got on DEA. So we did have standards, apparently DEA did. But- Hey, we have standards. They might be a little low, but we have standards. Hey, but Mark, you brought up a really good point though, too, and it was always my experience working with the marshals on cases or even the bureau and other guys. We always got along at the field agent level, you know, at the agent level, most people wanted to do stuff. It's when you got into the politics, you know, the supervisory level, people worried about, well, who's going to put out the press release? And guys that were like, you drive me out there, feet on the street that just wanted to go make the arrest, nobody gave a shit. We're like, I don't care who puts out the press release. We all wanted to go have a beer afterwards. Yeah, oh yeah, that's the, and especially in places that are far flung, Alaska is, you know, it's like this with families. If your in-laws and outlaws don't live up here, then neighbors get together for Thanksgiving. And in the law enforcement, it's kind of the same way, because there's no one else to call. We're, you know, a thousand miles away from Seattle. So you don't call another SWAT team. If you need FBI HRT, you know, we'll see you tomorrow kind of a thing. And so everybody has to handle it. So my youngest son was on the SWAT team here in Anchorage for a number of years, and they just had to handle stuff themselves because that was where the buck stopped. If the, and you guys know that standoffs and hostage situations and things like that, they don't last long enough to get help from, oftentimes from a neighboring big city in the lower 48. So troopers, Anchorage police, marshals, FBI, DEA, everybody really worked very closely together. One of my really good friends in federal law enforcement system is a DEA, he's a retired DEA agent. We worked closely together as well. In fact, he's helped me. I won't name him, but he's helped me quite a bit on some of the Clancy's. The very first Clancy that I, and I know we'll get into this in a minute, but since we're talking to other agencies in DEA, he had heard through the grapevine at one of the Northern Knives that we all, it's a knife shop here in town, we all frequent. And this guy came in and he goes, hey, I heard you're doing one of the, you're writing the next Tom Clancy. And I said, I am. And he goes, well, remember that show, remember that book Without Remorse and how John Clark put the guy in the decompression chamber? He goes, I was at the place where we burn up all our, the narcotics, the incinerator, and it's got this conveyor belt. I was thinking that would be a cool place for John Clark. And I said, let's go. And so we went to this field trip to the incinerator. And if you read Power and Empire, it's got two dedicated chapters to that incinerator because of my DEA friend and his imagination. You were talking to, I had a chance at one of the International Association to Chiefs of Police Conference, IACP, to meet the commissioner of the Alaska State Troopers. And so we had a couple of good chats and stuff. Cause it was funny, some guys from Kansas went up there, some other folks went up there because it became very popular. Remember Nat Geo did Alaska State Troopers, be on TV, people thought, oh, that's pretty cool. Except you get people up there and they realize, hey, yeah, you want to be in Anchorage or one of the others, that's fine, but you got to go be a resident trooper. You got to be in one of these small little villages with the VSPO, the village, VPSO, Village Public Safety. Yeah, you gotta be way up there for like two years or three years before you can come back to civilization. And it was a culture shock. Yeah, it was a culture shock for many of these guys who were used to having a Starbucks on the corner. Oh yeah, who was the commissioner? He had dark hair and a mustache and glasses. I'm trying to think of his name. Was it a long time ago or recently? It's probably been about like six, seven years ago, maybe eight years ago. Joe Masters? That sounds familiar. I'd have to see the picture. But yeah, but he had like a dark mustache. Yeah, no, they're kind of stocky, good, yeah. Yeah, he's a good guy. He's a friend of mine as well. Yeah, everybody's pretty close up here, but work in the bush, we call it places you can't get to except by plain boat or birth canal, the bush. So if you have to work out in one of these villages, I love the villages. I just love the rural aspect of it. I love the cultures and the people. And there's a lot of crime out there as there is any place that's cut off. I mean, people sometimes blame the crime on culture or even mistakenly race because it's predominantly Alaska natives. But the same issues are in Appalachia or any place where there's poverty and isolation. And so those bush troopers, and they're predominantly newer in their career, younger young men and women, and my hat is off to them. They're just doing the Lord's work out there. And you can really tell the places where they're working and working hard, the people, the community just really gets behind them and loves them. And I just came back from one. So it's very neat places to go and very old style law enforcement. It's that one riot, one ranger, because ain't nobody coming to help you. And these are the kinds of places where village health aides who basically have the EMT level might have to get on a sat-link with a doctor and do some operation on the cafeteria table because there's nobody coming to help. So you have either that person's gonna die or we're gonna cut him open with this sharpened knife because it's too icy to get in on the river. It's half frozen, half melted, so you can't take a boat. And it's too cloudy to get a plane, which means there's nobody coming for sometimes days. I mean, if you spit on the knife and rather- Which I love. You're driving under your armpit, that's sanitary, right? Yeah. And folks, you're gonna notice, you're gonna notice we have just a little bit of a lag. One of the reasons is I'm in Virginia, Mersin, Florida, and where are you at, Mark? It takes a while for the internet to get there. Where are you at? I'm in Anchorage, Alaska. Yeah, like I said, we use two tin cans and a string. Takes a string. So we apologize. There's like, we may step on each other because there's like just a little bit of a lag, but we'll try and do our best. But let's kind of circle back now because I wanna move us forward through your career getting into Marshall's, talk about a couple of things you did and then get into the writing. But you said it took you two and a half years to get on the Marshall's? Yes. Yeah, it was a time when they were, well, even now it's really hard to get on the Marshall's. It's just the hiring process is kind of convoluted and maybe just with all the federal agencies. But we took a test and then you waited to hear by mail for a couple of months to hear what your tests, well, first you had to send a little blue sheet of paper saying I wanna take a test. And then you heard by mail a couple of months later when your test date was. Then I drove over to Fort Worth or Dallas and took the test, which at that time was the treasury enforcement agents exam. So there was algebra on it, which is my kryptonite. So you had memory, look at the picture of the American flag and the people and walking and then you took a math test and then came back and they ask you a bunch of questions about that picture of the post office and which way the flag was blowing and all that. So took that test two months later, two or three months later, you got back the results of the test. And then they said, okay, you're on a list. And then about a year later, you got a letter in the mail saying, we wanna bring in for an interview. And then, and by the way, if you don't get this job off this interview, it'll expire and you have to start over again. And so I thought I had really given up because I had an interview, it seemed very positive. And then I pretty much gave up after almost two years and started sort of reassessing what I was gonna do. And I'd applied with some other places too. That's when I applied with the North Slope Borough up here, which is the top quarter of Alaska is one giant municipality. And I had a, and then I got a call that, hey, we've had a young lady break her leg at FLETC at Federal Law Enforcement Training Academy, would you be ready to go next Monday? And I said, absolutely, I'll be ready to go. And so I told my wife, I think we're going. And then I got a call and said, oh, sorry, her leg's not broken. It's just sprained. We're good to go. Don't call us, we'll call you. And then I waited about another eight months. And, but it was after that, I should have expired. My application should have expired, but because they had kind of hired me and then kind of let me go, I guess they felt sorry for me because I was out working on a barn, the horse barn and my mounted police stuff. And my wife came, and we had been, my wife knew a lady with the martial service HR named Mary Cassidy, who would, she's the one we would call, say any status, you know what's going on. And my wife would call her like once every two months. And so Mary like recognized my wife's voice on the phone and sorry, it's not going on. So my wife came screaming up. We had three little kids at the time and she came screaming up in the truck and slid to a stop and jumped out. Mary Cassidy called, you're starting. And so I like dropped my welding hat and headed to the truck. And gave them two weeks notice and moved to Sherman, Texas for, well, I started in Dallas to process in, went to, we affectionately call it FLEETEC, Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. And then my first office was in Sherman for the Eastern District of Texas, but really North of Dallas. So how far from, how far is Weatherford from Sherman? I mean, was it a big move for you or just like what, a couple of hours? Yeah, about four hours, maybe.

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"That is also a training video. In fact, we'd go to the mall and show that little scene, the big, I call that bold talk for one-eyed fat man scene. And every time there'd be all the noise going on in the mall and the marshal services recruiting and all that, and all these kids would be walking by and covering up everything until John Wayne says, fill your hand, you son of a bitch. And then everything would get quiet and all the ladies would look at me. And then he puts those brains between his teeth and gets that repeating rifle. And yeah, one of the great, oh man, I'm already getting goosebumps. This is gonna be fun. All right, so actually a good friend of mine too, just retired as the chief of police there in Grand Prairie, but I used to come down to, he used to ride the bulls and did the bareback bronc riding at the, there in Fort Worth in the stockyards. Oh yeah. Back in the day. That's where he met his wife, yeah. So why did you start? That's a good country. So you started off mounted patrol. Do you have the big white Stetson too? Black. Black. Oh, that had to get hot during the summer. Yeah, we wore, well, we wore straw hats in the summer, but I started on patrol, started as the regular patrol officer and there was a detective for a number of years. And then the mounted patrol came up and I wasn't a very good rider. I enjoy riding, but I was a horseshoer and the city saw that they could get their horses shod cheap if they had one of their guys do it. So they let me on the patrol cause I could shoe their horses. Did you grow up on a ranch in Texas? Is that how you knew how to do that? No, I just enjoy, we had like 10 acres and you know, I really didn't start cowboy until I was older, till I was like in my early twenties, had friends and I just enjoyed that and kind of learned as I went along. It's like they say on the show Yellowstone, everybody wants to be a cowboy till it's time to do cowboy shit. Yeah, exactly. Hardest work I've ever done was horseshoe and the strongest I've ever been. You don't stand statically with a 900 pound animal leaning on you for, you know, hours at a time would not get, is getting paid to go to the gym. Did you get bit a couple of times or get kicked? Oh, I got, yeah, I got kicked, got some nails driven. Always for stupid stuff I've done, but I've got plenty of scars. But I just love those horses, man. They're such great animals. My dad, before he passed away, we all went out and visited out in Gunnison, Colorado. The thing, he used to have a horse out there, Boulderjack. My sister ended up with him and just, it's just so much fun watching those folks do that and especially Texas, but you know, Steve, Steve, you were telling me one time you're talking to a guy from Texas. Unless it's like 10,000 acres, it's not a ranch in Texas. Yeah, we were down in Victoria, Texas, my old DEA partner, I have your opinion. I was speaking to a group and, you know, part of it is we show the famous ranch that Pablo Escobar had down in Columbia, Finca, Napoli's. And I made the statement, I said, you know, we've heard it's anywhere from 1,000 to 10,000 acres. What, it doesn't matter to us, because that's huge. And so when we finished talking, the sheriff came up to thank us for coming. He said, and Murph, I guess I just gotta tell you, you mentioned that a ranch between 1,000, 10,000 acres is huge. Well, here in Texas, we call that a ranchette. So I don't know how many acres he owned, but apparently a whole lot more. That is absolutely true. The flip side of that is on some of those places down near Victoria and, you know, South Texas and in West Texas, it takes 100 acres to run one cow-calf pair. So you need that to run, you need 10,000 acres to run 100 cattle. So it just takes a lot to support some cows. And cowboying's become fashionable now with Yellowstone and stuff like that. So, and then one of the characters out of Yellowstone ended up going down, what was it, the, I forgot the name of the ranch, it's like the Triple Eight or whatever else he's doing cowboying. Four-sixths. Four-sixths. Yeah. Four-sixths. Doing some cowboying down there in Texas of season five of Yellowstone. Jimmy, Jimmy went down there. Season five is coming out. So I think end of the month, so we'll have to do about this. So how big was your department? How many people on your department? How big was your town when you were doing this? Small, like 40 people altogether. It was very small, very small. Weatherford, it's grown now. It's a much bigger department now. But when I started, there was, you know, three people on midnight, three officers on midnight shift, some deputy sheriffs on midnight shift, and the troopers, and there was that hierarchy, you know, the county mounties and the city kiddies and the highway patrol. And, but I was a young kid. I was barely old enough to buy my own bullets when I got on, barely 21 years old. Murph couldn't even buy bullets when he got on. I started at 19. I couldn't buy a gun or bullets, but I could shoot your ass. Wowzer. Isn't that awesome? Yeah, exactly. Well, it was a different time. I think you started, you and I started close to the same time. I started in 84. You're a little ahead of me. I started in 82 and he started in what? I started in 82 and you started in what? 17, right after 1776, wasn't it? 1883. In fact, that's the first episode of the Yellowstone series. Yeah, you see Murph in the background with Tim McGraw. Hey, I'm Sidney Marshall here. I had my repeating rifle out there. I can fly that thing around. Yeah, exactly. My son always, he was APD. He's state department now, but he was Anchorage Police Department. He would joke that, he'd see my pictures of me with my 686 revolver and some speed loaders. And they're carrying Glock 22s and just a different world. Just a completely different world. I'd been a cop for 12 years before I went to DEA. And even when I went through the DEA Academy in 1987, they were still issuing the Smith and Wesson model 10 revolvers. I'm like, damn, even we've got better guns. Yeah, I went through the Marshalls in 91. I went through the Marshalls in 91 and we got GP 100 Rugers. They were like, great gun. But as soon as everybody went home, they got a Sato. Except for me, I got a 44 special because I thought I was John Wayne. You'd watch True Grit too many times. Yeah, that was my first, I started off on a city department, but when I went to the state patrol, that's what we had Smith and Wesson 686s. Those were, I mean, I love that thing. Nice solid weapons. Yeah, excellent gun. Oh yeah. It was like a combination revolver and big steel pipe you could whack people with. They got it really right. Well, hey, saves on bullets. Bullets are expensive. Only bad guys, it's like only bad guys. It was, what was that? Arnold Schwarzenegger says in True Lies, he says, yes, but they were all bad. Just five more times. Yeah, I just saw that bridge too. We were just down at the Keys for Vacation and the highway that they blew up for True Lies is down there. Anyway, I digress, but you were on the PD, so what made you, but during this time, you said you wanted to be a novelist. What started that? Was it just from reading? Did you like to read a lot back then? How did this idea of being a novelist, and then obviously you got out of the theater because you became a cop, but how did the idea of novelists creep into your psyche back as a youth like that? So I started writing stories and books when I was about eight. So I've got piles and piles and piles. My mom has piles and piles of spiral notebooks and steno pads and whatever scraps of paper I could write. And I try to keep those under wraps. I don't want those ever getting out. But when we first got married, that little department I started at, I was making $6.67 an hour. And we had to buy our own gun. We bought our own leather. And back in, you guys remember in 19, the early 80s, they didn't buy you, most departments wouldn't buy you a ballistic vest. And DuPont Kevlar was relatively new. And rigid. So that first year, cause my wife knew that I had this dream. Yeah, my wife knew that I had these dreams of being an officer and a police officer and also being a writer. And the first year on a meager, meager salary, somehow she scraped together enough money to buy me an American body armor, ballistic vest that kind of with an armadillo on it with a bullet ricocheting off his back. And there was no cover. It was just the vest. And when you need to wash it, you had to like hold it under water. And in Texas, they could get pretty ripe. But so she bought me an American body armor vest and a Smith Corona electric typewriter that very first year. And I'd been writing most stuff long hand on an old typewriter I got from my parents, a manual one. And I wrote stories and got rejection letters for years. And I remember I sold a short story and like Hemingway would send his stuff off, drink all day and then get a rejection letter and then just go to sleep weeping. And then the next day he'd send something off and do it again, do it again. Well, I didn't drink all day and go to bed weeping. I had a job to do, but I kept writing, kept getting rid. And I got a lot of rejection letters. And finally, I was with the Marshall service and I came home one day and my wife had a rolled up newspaper or magazine in her hand and a check for like 700 bucks. And she said, this is where, you know, again, we're like 23 years in of just rejection letters. And she still, that was my hobby, just writing. And she swatted me on the butt with that magazine. And she said, this is working out. Now go write us a new couch. And so I just kept at it. Go write us a new couch. Well. So I was writing when I was with the police department all the time, just never getting posted. I guess what I'm doing right now, cause mama wants a new car, our speaking business, I guess we're speaking for a new car. That's it, that's it. I'm going to ask you, when you had to write an offense report, did you have a Sergeant or somebody come up and says, okay, Mark, just knock the shit off. Just give me a simple report. I don't need a novel. Were you writing novels for your narratives? No, I think I have the, I think I can figure out how to do it a little differently than that. I did have one. Remember when we carried the old PR 24s? And I was a PR 24 instructor, the side handle baton. And back when I first started and on into the beginning of the Marshall service, we had to write three-part triplicate reports. And we wrote them like you guys, I think everybody did back then, except for the really big departments. We printed them on these three-part with carbon paper in the middle and all that. And so the problem with that is they can't just line correct 20, you know, change this or change that. You have to rewrite the whole thing or white out each individual page or whatever the offense report. And I remember I had my, you couldn't really sit down very well with a PR 24 and that little ring. So I would take it out, set it on the, you know, on the squad room table. And I had it sitting there and I was writing my report out and the Sergeant didn't even read it. He just came by and I was almost finished with this full page narrative. And he came by and picked up my PR 24, like a hammer. He just went, all over the top of it. So it looked like a Dalmatian dog all over the thing. And I said, what did you do that for? And Sarge and he said, well, I knew it'd be bad. Just start over, it'd be bad. So I had good trainers. I had really good trainers. And you have a description for the PR 24, don't you? I do too, man. Well, I learned this from some guys in LAPD. So why do they have the side handle on the PR 24? So when the bad guy takes it from you and shoves it up your ass, it only goes about six inches.

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"clancy" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"Oh my gosh. And we can't even edit that out. That was actually funny. Hey, well, let's make you funny, but hey, but look again, this is great stuff. He was a writer all of his life. He finally is able now to spend full time doing his passion, but he has got some funny stories that we talk about. And if you want to know something that's really Alaskan, wait till you hear a couple of these stories, but Murph, we will never hear them unless I ask you, are you ready to play the biggest, baddest, most dangerous, and if you're in Alaska, coldest, and watch out for most, game of all, game of crimes. Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen, get in, sit down, shut up, hold on. You're going to hear about some adventures here that you're probably not expecting. So bring on Mr. Mark Cameron. So I've learned not to use Spanish or any other foreign languages, because that seems to trigger the ads. So we're just going to stick to English for this one or say maybe Russian this time. Do you speak Russian? Do you speak Russian? Okay. What's up? Oh, now you're going to get Russian. What's up, comrade? So, hey guys, welcome. We got another special guest. This one is special in a variety of ways. First of all, he comes from us, former US Marshal, but the dude is turned into an author extraordinaire. And we're going to talk to that. We're going to talk about what he's done. So first of all, his nom de guerre, his pen name, we welcome him as Mark Cameron. Welcome to Game of Crimes podcast, Deputy Marshal. Thank you for having me. He doesn't even know how to respond to that. You've left him speechless. Well, he doesn't have to worry about speaking because he writes and he writes really well. So, hey, Mark, first of all, welcome. This is fun too, because right before we got started, we're talking about mutual friend. We have Ryan Stack and talking about a lot of the work that you guys have all done in the thriller space. And it's interesting though, we're going to get into this, but Ryan said, hey, make sure you bring this up because I read it on his website. You had the distinction of writing how many Tom Clancy novels, seven? Seven, yeah, I did. I just turned in the seventh, which will be my last one. I've asked him to find somebody else. That's a lot of bandwidth for an old dude like me. Well, so that's interesting. So they got a couple of guys who write novels together as a team to take over for you, but look, I got to tell you, I started off on Tom Clancy. I was one of the original people that read Hunt for Red October published by the Naval Press. And I was in an airport one day and I picked it up and I read it. So the fact that you got to write in that legacy, man, that is a badge of honor, especially as we were talking for a US Marshall whose reports barely used to be a paragraph when you were booking people into jail, right? No, yeah, I was in the police academy in Texas in 1984. When the Hunt for Red October came out and I wanted to be a writer from the time I was a little boy. And in fact, I told my wife before we got married when I was courting her that I was going to be a novelist and a theater professor at a college. And she decided, yeah, I want to do that. And then right like six weeks before we got married, I sprung it on her that I really want to be a cop and a novelist. And she married me anyway, so I got a job at a little police department. And during that first year, I was a police officer. I read the Hunt for Red October. So when the offer came up to write for the Clancy's estate, I just, I nearly had an aneurysm. It was out of the blue, had no idea it was coming, but I've been a Clancy fan since Clancy published his first book.

Game of Crimes
"clancy" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"J.D. Buck Savage will have on there. I tell you, when Patrick told us about this guy, you know, and we do our own little research and vet him, but Patrick's, if he approves them, if he vets them and approves them, that's pretty much good for us because he does a fantastic job. But looking at Mark's background and seeing, I was a Tom Clancy fan back when Tom Clancy was still writing the books, and to see that he had picked that up and he's gonna tell you how that all happened and what's going on with that. But then to see how he's blossomed into other things, he's got two other series that are just phenomenal. And I think the reason I'm gushing on this a little bit is because I love to see what law enforcement professionals do after they retire from law enforcement. And he's, even though he's retired, he's not locking people up anymore, he still supports law enforcement in Alaska. And you'll hear him talk about that a little bit as well. So just have the most utmost respect for him. I don't have the writing skills to write a book. I don't think, I tried writing our book one time and wrote for six hours, waited two days, read it and thought, what a bunch of crap. Cause it read like a cable. It read like a primer for elementary kids. It was just, it was terrible. Well, you can find him at Mark, M-A-R-C, Mark Cameron, C-A-M-E-R-O-N, markcameronbooks.com. But Murph, here's the other thing too. I don't know if you look through the back of the book. The other thing he provides too, is he's got a couple of recipes in there. Grumpy's Dessert Beans, a savory dish, but when Ethan and Arliss were young, they craved them like a dessert. So he gives you recipes by his character and Rich Cracker Fried Halibut. Well, there you go. Hey, see, this is an educational program we have here. You know why he wrote the book? Just for the halibut.

Game of Crimes
A highlight from 118: Part 1: Marc Cameron - From Deputy US Marshal to Arliss Cutter to Tom Clancy
"Well, again, here we are. Episode 118. Murph, we have 118. This is like surviving 118 attempts on our life. We have dodged all the bullets. Our listeners are loyal and they protect us. You guys protect us. So welcome back again. Episode 118, Game of Crimes. Thank you, thank you, thank you guys for joining. I am your host with the most hair. Just got it cut, Morgan Wright, here literally with my partner in crime. Murph, who's almost bald and your hair looks like crap. My hair doesn't look like crap. It looks like crap. No, it doesn't. It looks marvelous. I've got so much. She says, the person who cut my hair said, when you come in after six weeks, it's like most people's eight weeks or 10 weeks. So I get a lot of hair. Hey, when I go in and get a haircut, it takes like three minutes. I'm in and out. There you go. You sure that's a haircut? Be nice now. I'm just starting this. Please, please don't pay attention to him, ladies and gentlemen. I'm sorry, okay. We're trying to gain some professional help. Yeah, whatever. All right, how's that working out for you? Okay, let's just do some quick housekeeping before we get started. Hey guys, head on over to that Apple Spotify. Hit those five stars. It helps us out a lot. Remember, the other thing we learned that too, guess what guys? Not only did Stitcher go away, Google Podcasts is going away. So you're gonna have to, if you're on Google, make sure you pick a new service to keep listening to us. Make sure you hit that subscribe button too so that you do not miss. Deliver to your digital inbox every week on a Monday and Tuesday, these episodes like this one's coming out. Also head on over to our website, gameofcrimespodcast .com. In fact, when we talk about our guest today, Mark Cameron, we'll talk about his book. That'll be listed on there. And we've got a lot of great stuff on there. So make sure you head on over there. Gameofcrimespodcast .com. Also follow us on that thing they call social media at Game of Crimes on Twitter, Game of Crimes podcast on Facebook and the Instagram. But Murph, I'm telling you, we're gonna have some fun on Patreon. Patreon .com slash Game of Crimes. I have a 911 call coming up for you. Of all the 911 calls, I guarantee you nobody, nobody has taken a call like this before that I'm aware of ever, anywhere. Looking forward to hearing this one. Holy cow. There's gonna be a couple. This one, I don't know if I can make an entire case out of it, but I've listened to it. And just the sheer confusion on the call taker, they've never been presented with this before. So we'll have to talk about that. But guys, we just did our warden of the throne. It's a unique little thing we're doing now. Rather than just taking one topic, Murph brings two topics. I bring two topics. We're allowed to get into things that are catching our interest for the previous month or some stories. So we just did one talking about Philadelphia and the looting, Iran, and what they call the Iranian experts initiative. People have had their security clearance suspended. You talk about some tragic cases up in New York, the Bronx, baby dying at daycare center, and the recent death of that CEO by a sexual predator who should have still been in prison, but wasn't. Right, in Baltimore. So those are a lot of good things. We've got Q &A coming up, 911, what's your emergency case of the month? So guys, all good stuff. You don't hear this anywhere else, but on patreon .com slash Game of Crimes. But the other place you gotta be though too, Murph, our favorite mafia queen with the iron fist with the velvet glove. You gotta head on over there, watch what Sandy Salvato is doing with our Game of Crimes fans page. Just go to Facebook, type in Game of Crimes fans, answer a couple easy questions, get admitted to the Inner Sanctum in YouTube. You will see what goes on behind the scenes, behind the curtains. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain because that's one of our favorite people happening over on Game of Crimes fans. It's a lot of fun. There's a lot of humor there. A lot of dark humor too. If you saw some of the stuff people have posted, I hope you guys, I hope your healthcare plan supports you with an employee assistance program. I'm telling you. I don't know what you're talking about. Here's what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about now because you know what time it is. Guess what? I'm gonna ask you, do you know what time it is? Guess what time it is? Come on, give me a clue. It's time for Small Town Police Blotter. Hey, this because in honor of our guest that's coming up, Mark Cameron, the author, we'll talk about him in a second, but he went from Texas, lives in Alaska. So I thought we should have an Alaska theme. There you go. For our Small Town Police Blotter. So Murph, gotta ask you. Yes. This comes out of the Alaska Dispatch News. You know, a lot of fishery stuff, a lot of crabbing, a lot of lobster stuff, a lot of that goes on in Alaska, doesn't it? Mm -hmm, mm -hmm. So you have an idea. You go, hey, we're gonna take a crabbing boat and we're gonna convert it into a floating bar and strip club. What could go wrong, right? Oh my gosh. So 54 -year -old Darren Byler of Kodiak and his 46 -year -old wife, Kimberly, own the Wild Alaskan, a former crabbing boat that's been converted into a floating bar and strip club. Apparently it's doing pretty well. They've been running the business since June, but now they're in serious legal trouble and Murph, it's not for stripping. Uh -oh, what is it? This gives new meaning to, you know, why this is on a crabbing boat. So if you're out there floating, you have to provide facilities for people to use, right? So if they use the facilities, number one and number two, you should probably find a way to take care of that other than dumping it into the ocean. Oh, come on, come on. So they were just indicted by a federal grand jury for improper disposal of human waste after they were caught dumping feces from their bathroom into the harbor, as they say in Maine, into the harbor. Instead of taking the waste tanks to the proper places on shore, they both could be facing up to one year in jail and $25 ,000 in fine, but that's not the worst part. The worst part is the Coast Guard said they lied about dumping the tanks, and if they're convicted of that, making false statements to the Coast Guard investigators, that could get them five years in prison and $250 ,000 in fines. Cha -ching. I tell you what, you gotta do a lot of stripping to make that kind of money. It's a shitty situation they got themselves in. It's terrible. This whole thing just stinks. It stinks, man, stinks to high heaven. Tell you what, you know, you had a turd in one hand and wishes in the other. Anyway, we could go lots of places with that, so. These people didn't move to Alaska from Florida, did they? I don't believe so. Thank goodness. Hey, but I went back into the archives too, so I pulled some articles out of the Alaska News Archives, the Fairbanks Daily News Minor. This comes to us January 21st, 1955, and I'm telling you, the stories are hilarious. These are quick hits. And not always, but this is what's in Alaska. This is what's important in Alaska, January of 1955. The Tokyo police hire pretty hostesses. Tokyo police, grieved by complaints that their headquarters is unattractive, have assigned four pretty girls to meet people at the building's two entrances. Officials have also ordered the women to take charm courses. That is what's important in the Alaska, you know, the Fairbanks Daily News Minor. The other thing you gotta do here, be prepared. And this comes to us, it's out of Tucson, Arizona, but in the Fairbanks Daily News Minor. This is 1955, a 15 -year -old boy with a loaded .38 caliber pistol in his waistband was removed from high school class here by police. His explanation for carrying a gun, a couple of those teachers were giving me a hard time. Well, geez, okay. Okay, but this one though, this one has gotta be, this is it. This is St. Monaface. I believe this is Alaska, no, Manitoba. This is St. Monaface, Manitoba. All right. Police were certain the worst of the winter is upon them. Pete Nikoluk has started his annual jail term for vagrancy. Nikoluk has spent the past 21 winters in jail on vagrancy charges. Police says he always manages to get arrested just before the coldest part of the winter sets in. Who says this guy's not smart? Three hots and a cot, and I get through the toughest part of winter. Oh my goodness. That's, well, you know, that's prior planning, I guess. Prior planning prevents piss -poor performance, the 6Ps. There you go. Yep. You ask my children, they'll tell you what the 6Ps are. That's right. Murph, now, we'll finish up with this. I went and looked at what are some of the strangest laws in Alaska, and these are definitely Alaskan. It is illegal to whisper in someone's ear why they are moose hunting. Okay. It's legal to shoot bears. However, it is illegal to wake a sleeping bear for the purpose of taking a photograph. Why would you wake a sleeping bear? Isn't that the truth? Here's another thing, and I don't get it. It is considered an offense. It's illegal to feed alcoholic beverages to a moose. What? Why? Huh. Apparently, it's also illegal to sell stun guns to children. That one, I kind of get that makes sense. Well, if you're in Fairbanks, Alaska, if you love a vuvuzula, remember what they did during the World Cup. You know, you blow those things that make a lot of noise. Those annoying things? Yeah, it's illegal to blow a horn in a manner that disrupts the peace. Good. Yep. So, it's illegal to fatten up a sheep, cow, or pig within the city limits of Fairbanks. Are we talking about people or animals? Well, maybe it's meatball, and you'll have to listen to her. You'll have to listen to our warden of the throne. All right, it is also a crime to speak so loud that you offend a sensitive person enough to make him, her, or her leave if you're in Fairbanks. What? Okay, well, hey, be nice. That's just be nice. And you can only carry a concealed slingshot if you have received the appropriate license. The license. Do you have a license for that slingshot? All right. Oh, okay. I didn't know you had to have that. But Murph, this is the craziest one. This reminds me of an episode of you and JP on Narcos where you were accused of doing this, not a moose, but it is an offense to push a live moose out of a moving airplane. Well, you know, I gotta agree with that, but have you seen how big a moose is? How do you push it anywhere? Well, how do you get it into the damn airplane to begin with is what I wanna know. And who wants a moose, a pissed off moose, in their airplane? Uniquely Alaskan. So Mark Cameron, as we get into this, and again, we wanna thank our buddy, Patrick O 'Donnell, Cops and Writers. Go listen to his podcast. Hooked us up with him, but Mark Cameron is an interesting dude, moved from Weatherford, Texas to Alaska. And we're gonna talk about his book that was just released. It's an Arliss Kutter novel, Breakneck, by Mark Cameron. But the interesting thing too, Murph, was he wrote the last seven Tom Clancy novels. And this is a guy that used to be a marshal, which most of the reports were saw bad guy, put him in jail, you know? Not extensive reports in the marshal service. Saw a fugitive, arrested, same.

Game of Crimes
A highlight from 114: Part 1: Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith is still Defending and Protecting
"Ola, ola, ola, amigos, amigos, players, playwrights, dududettes, everybody in between. Welcome to episode 114 of Game of Crimes, the 114th attempt to silence us once again. And as I say, we shall not go quietly into the night, will we, Murph? That's right. We're not going anywhere. Not going anywhere, all right. It reminds me of that case with the guys from NYPD. Yeah, go fuck yourself. Hey, guys, welcome back. Hey, we got some good stuff for you, but as always, before we get to it, we gotta do just some quick housekeeping. Hey, head on over to Apple Spotify, hit those five stars. Really means a lot. Guys, if you're on Stitcher, move off Stitcher. That's like officially closed now. So I think you'll hear they've moved a lot of that stuff over to Spotify, but make sure you find us on your favorite podcasting platform and hit that subscribe button on it so you get these episodes delivered to you without thinking about it, without fail, every Monday and Tuesday. Also head on over to our website, gameofcrimespodcast .com. Hey, we've got some interesting stuff coming up. We've got guests, you know, we've got books, quite a few books that we're working on. We've got some guests coming up, like a medical examiner. We've got some books from there. We've got CIA guy. We've got a guy who writes for Tom Clancy now, former US Marshal. Got his books. So we got a lot of good stuff coming up. So head on over there. Also follow us on that thing they call social media at Game of Crimes on Twitter, Game of Crimes on podcast, Game of Crimes podcast on Facebook and the Instagram, but head on over to patreon .com slash Game of Crimes. We just got through recording a 911 episode that will, that's interesting, but it will break your heart, make you mad and piss you off. Oh yeah. I'm still, if I get a little bitchy on this intro, you'll know why, cause we just finished it. But we don't wanna give away the ending because you gotta put your ears on, you gotta be an audio Sherlock Holmes and figure out what went on. So, but we got a lot of good stuff. We got our Q and A coming out. You can't make this shit up. We did our Narcometer review, which Murph will never be allowed to recommend another movie for Narcometer review without prior review. It's a truth, I agree. Yeah, but we did just finish season three of Narcos where our buddy, Chris Feisal, Dave Mitchell, they were the DEA agents that helped bring down the Cali Cartel. So we go through and we analyze season three of Narcos, the gentlemen of the Cali Cartel. So we got a lot of good stuff. So patreon .com slash Game of Crimes. Also head on over and find Facebook, type in Game of Crimes fans, and guess what? You will find the internal, the secret fan group run by our favorite mafia queen, the iron fist with the velvet glove, Sandy Salvato, who shall allow you entrance into the inner sanctum. Answer a couple of questions, get close, come on people, give it a shot, give it the old college try. You too may be on the inside where all the hilarity, jocularity happens in a bubble of insularity. Okay, the arities. And that is, I tell you what, there's some funny stuff that goes on there. You really need to take a look at it. It'll brighten your day. Right, and you know what else brightens your day, Murph? What's that? It's our next little section. And we call that? Well, guess what time it is though. First of all, guess what time it is? Guess what time it is? What time is it, Murph? I bet it's time for Police Small Town Blutter. And I forgot to tell you, hey, this is Show About Crime. We talk about bad people doing bad things and bad people doing bad things to good people. We take the story seriously, not ourself. How do we know that? Because we do Small Town Police Blutter. Sorry, we got it backwards. It's like one of those endings at the end of a pharmaceutical commercial, you know, the previous hit of the mother. Anyway, all right, let's get into this. We're keeping you on your toes, that's all. I might've had some caffeine today. Anyway, hey, Murph, this story comes to us from Lancaster County, Nebraska. All right. You always want good citizens, right? A good citizen out there called in, told dispatchers, hey, somebody is driving a truck on the wrong side of the road. Highway 77 in Lancaster County nearly ran him off the road. So driver, I mean, the caller gives excellent description, says, hey, here's where it happened. Here's where the collision nearly happened. And so obviously they vector deputies in, right? So even though the guy's rattled, he's able to give them, you know, the calls. So the deputy gets out there and the deputy finds the driver and pulls it over. And he's the caller. He's the caller. Deputy goes, do you know why I stopped you? Yeah, because I was on the wrong side of the road. The man responded jockeying the air up to a missed exit. Oh, okay, well, you know, the problem is he had a blood alcohol content, twice the legal limit. Oh, don't you just hate when that happens? Yeah, so he confessed to calling 911 on himself and the deputy realized who he had in custody. Yeah, I did that because I thought somebody was on the wrong side of the fucking road, bro. The deputy goes, yeah, but it turned out to be you. But it turned out it was you. He goes, yep, like a dumb fuck. He says this on body cam day. Hey, you know what, ladies and gentlemen, we have a sectional Patreon called you can't make this shit up. This is the first one from that. Hey, there's a truck almost ran me off the road. Yeah, unfortunately for you, Skippy, they were going the right way. You were going the wrong way. That's wonderful. Hey, Mark, I know at your age, you're not on a dating app, right, but you've heard of those dating apps, right? Match .com, you know, Tinder. Yeah, you know, and what do they always say? You know, like, if you like somebody, you swipe right. I think it is, if you don't like them, you swipe left. Have my money. Something like that, right, so. Obviously you have. Well, no, no, I have, because I read the story. So, what do you think would be an innovative way to find a fugitive? Are you using a dating app? This guy out of England, he's a million dollar fraudster. He apparently swiped flight, you know, instead of right, he swiped flight. This wanted man, Wayne Parker, successfully evaded authorities for nearly a year after committing a million dollars in fraud, but then the farmer from Suffolk, England, signed up for a dating app, right? They were shocked to see, cops, coppers were shocked to see the convicted criminal crop up after Parker created a profile on Match .com. So, what happened was the 35 year old scammer was found guilty a year ago of owing a whopping $970 ,000 to a supplier. He failed to appear in court in February for sentencing and was being hunted by police to no avail until the on the lam lothario, this is them writing that, not me, decided to start looking for love in all the wrong places. So, I mean, if he'd waited, what, seven years, the statute of limitations run out, he could have done it, but no. Since going on the run, Mr. Paca is known to have been using Match's dating website. He's also been hiring cars in a bid and is believed to avoid detection by the police. So, he failed to appear in court. So, he said he would return to Suffolk to face the consequences of his action, but so far has failed to head to, has failed to do so. So, it's only a matter of time before the law catches up. We would strongly urge him to hand himself in. Well, guess what? They didn't have to wait too long. Now, this frisky farmer, he'd previously been prosecuted for posing a serious risk of spreading bovine tuberculosis. He failed to dispose of farmed animal remains appropriately, was found to be moving large quantities of cattle without following the proper process, as well as not keeping adequate records of the cattle. So, he was handed a 12 -week jail sentence and an 18 -month suspension from doing business. That was then, but now he's going to go to prison for a million dollars in fraud, all because he had the urge he got on the dating site. Oh, because he's stupid. He's stupid. Speaking of stupid, Murph, this next one comes to us from Vero Beach, Florida, population 16 ,534. Salute. And that's a beautiful place. Yeah, so Rashad McGriff, he, I'll give it away, he went to jail. He has a lengthy rap sheet, currently on probation, following conviction in March for possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. What kind of taunt could an ex -girlfriend send over a text that would cause this felon, this person now charged with battery and burglary, what kind of taunt could send him over the edge? I'm going to guess it was a reference, a negative reference towards his private parts. She taunted him via text about having a little penis. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Investigators say that the 42 -year -old woman was in her bed when McGriff got into the house, which he has no commitments to. He then punched the woman in the face and choked her, which then obstructed her ability to breathe temporarily. She was bleeding from the bridge, did you ever know? She told police that she texted McGriff a photo of somebody else's penis and advised Rashad he had a little one. Oh my God. Oh, oh, I don't even know what to say. Sorry. Well, the judge ordered McGriff to have no contact with the victim because he threatened her as well. So he's been previously, the woman's previously sued McGriff three times for failure to pay child support. So they do have a hearing. So hey, look, domestic violence is not funny, but you know, sending a picture of somebody's junk and then following it up with a really small piece of junk and saying, you got a little one or something like that. Oh no, actually she sent him a picture. She sent a picture of apparently what she liked and said that you've got a much smaller one. Did she call him shorty or stubby? Yeah, we shouldn't make fun of that, I'm sorry. Yeah, well, we'll just see if the evidence stands up in court. Anyway, thank you very much. Hey, well, let's, we're gonna, what we're gonna do is I'm gonna talk about our next guest. We'll do the intro here because then when we get into the interview, we're not gonna do re -intro the intro. But this one, this one's the one I helped arrange because I've known this person for probably 18 years now. No, her and her husband. And for those of you in law enforcement, when I say the name JD Buck Savage, if you've been around, except Murph. Murph had no idea until they started watching the videos. Legendary police trainer, used to train Caliber Press, Street Survival, has a, him and his wife now, we'll talk about, have a company, The Winning Mind, they do a lot of this. Now, Betsy Brantner Smith, Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith retired after 29 years on the Naperville Police Department, which I used to be up in Naperville for some other stuff in a prior life, actually had a TV series about her, a lot of good stuff. But now she is the spokesperson for the National Police Association, nationalpolice .org. And Murph, I would say we had a good, some of you folks, I'm gonna tell you right now, this is gonna be a controversial topic for some of you. You're not gonna like it because, but we get into some, we, you know, hey, we talk about the facts around what's happening with police right now, what's going on, the narratives, and Betsy pulls no punches. Look, with all of our guests, they have the absolute right to the First Amendment. She gets to say what she wants to say because it's her opinion, it's her voice. But the other thing too is, I'm not gonna give it away, you're gonna find out on the episode, but Betsy has a right to say what she wants to say when you understand what she's been through and what she survived. And she's an effective, I remember times she used to get ahold of me and say, hey, I see you on Fox and CNN and all this stuff all the time. And she'd be jealous. I'm like, I sent her a text, hey, I see you on all these shows all the time, I'm jealous now. I tell you what, once you hear her talk, she's a feisty little lady, you can see why she was selected as a national spokesperson for the National Police Association. And as you'll hear me say at the end of the interview, she was honestly a breath of fresh air, standing up in discussion, hot issues that involve the police culture, but she's just not giving an opinion. She's backing it up with facts and statistics, which is, anybody can have an opinion, just like buttholes, we've all got them, but when you back them up with facts, there's a good position. So this was honestly a great interview with Betsy. It was a pleasure to meet you. I will continue to watch JD Buck Savage videos here. They're funny. If you haven't seen them, just go on YouTube and put in JD Buck Savage and you'll see them. Saw drunk? If you want to know where saw drunk arrested same originated as JD Buck Savage. You just know hanging out with these two, you're gonna come out with tears streaming down your cheeks cause they're gonna keep you laughing. Oh man, Dave and I had a good time. Well, Murph, we can't get to it until I ask you the question that is on everybody's mind, mind, mad, mind, on our mad mind. Our mad mind, are you ready to play the biggest, baddest, most dangerous game of all? The unadulterated, unfettered, unrestricted game of crimes. Here we are. Yes, we are ready. So get in, sit down, shut up and hold on. We got Ms. Betsy coming on. You're gonna love this lady.

The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast
Did the Woman Accused of Killing Her Kids Have Postpartum Depression?
"There is an interesting case in Massachusetts of a woman who has been arrested and accused of killing her at three children. And when Debbie and I were discussing the case, the whole issue of postpartum syndrome came up. Depression. Postpartum. Well, I guess there's postpartum. There's anxiety. Yeah, it's postpartum depression or postpartum psychosis. Right. And those aren't all exactly the same, but you know something about this. So let's talk about what do you think happened here? Let's give a couple of details. The woman's name is Lindsey clancy. She's just 32. She's some ducks very Massachusetts. So the question becomes, what on earth would make a mom? A mom will obviously wanted these children. And three of them to do the bizarre act, which would seem to run totally against nature of killing her own children. Why would somebody do that? Well, as it turns out, there is a potential or a possible medical explanation. Right. So postpartum depression is actually quite common. It's not, it's not super uncommon. I had it with my firstborn with Justin, who is going to be 28 soon, so a long time ago. But, you know, it's one of these things that you have a baby and you think you're just going to be like beaming with happiness because you just had a child. But what happens is your hormones become like just completely just jumbled haywire, right? And then you become, well, I, at least in my situation, I became very, very sad, crying just about everything and anything. I also became very possessive of Justin and I didn't want people to hold him. I was extremely agitated by just even light. I had to have all the shades drawn. And so I was diagnosed actually with postpartum depression,

Out of Bounds Podcast
"clancy" Discussed on Out of Bounds Podcast
"It's something that I'm doing a bit more of, you know, I've got a few courses booked in in January, February. To do a bit of learning myself, trying to use my brain for the first time in 20 years. Man, keeping you honest. Exactly. And then eventually hopefully a full part of the team and they were able to deliver the same stuff fill can. And at the same time, you know, fills from a military background. So he was in the marines for a long time. He left. Early. So this company and he's kind of like installs the things that he learned from the military into the business world and I'm going to hopefully try and bring the sport and aspect forward as well. And just both trying to combine our life lessons and put it out there. Because I'm listening to you and you're like, yeah, one thing not that you struggled with and maybe you did struggle with it, but one thing that you felt like you needed to work on was your mindset. Which is nuts to me because either that or it worked. I mean, you had 8 world records that are listed here on Wikipedia, and then multiple world championships. Three, three gold medals, you went to the Olympics four times. And in that process, I mean, you know, a lot of people that are listening to this podcast that are cycling fans and enthusiasts. We've seen the sport, the sport from 2008 to the sport that we know now, especially in the pursuit, like with bikes and technology, I mean, man, we used to ride our aero bars straight down and us riding a beach cruiser practically and now our hands are buried in our face and we're riding you went from 92 inch gears to a 130 inch gears or whatever the hell it is, you know it's insane. And so did you feel like your mindset had to change from 2008 to 2020? 21, even. You know what I mean? Like, or is it just, or is that a.

Out of Bounds Podcast
"clancy" Discussed on Out of Bounds Podcast
"Also, back for another episode is twisted spoke. Guys, some of my favorite CBD on the market twisted spoke. But honestly, I love these dudes. They're two guys that work over there and it's Gabe and win. And they are just some of the nicest dudes you can possibly meet. And they're here to help you. So go check them out, it twisted spoke CBD dot com if that's something that you're interested in. I use it for myself, my wife uses it. Even my dogs use it. My dog just had a recent ACL tear and it's helped with his anxiety as well as manage the pain, which is super cool because I can't even really communicate with them, but you can tell he's feeling a lot better, or at least I think he does. But anyways, you can check them out at twisted spoke CBD dot com that's twisted spoke CBD dot com. Some of the best CBD in the area here in Colorado Springs, but yeah, check them out. Also, back for another episode is still pro. Guys, if you've seen me travel to a road race, I'm living out of my van pretty much right now when I go race to race. And I need a way to keep my bikes protected because my van is pretty small. So my bike sit on the outside of my in and I use the ZL pro bags, guys, I cover my bikes with these bags where I can lock them to the car. So if it rains, if it gets crummy outside, my bike's protected, my bike stays clean. So check them out at zero pro dot com that's zeal pro dot com. Also, I'll put a link in the description below. But other than that, let's go ahead and dive into this week's episode. What's going on guys? Welcome back to another episode of coffee and van chats on the out of bounds network. I'm sitting here with what three or four time Olympian, right? Ed clancy. Full-time Olympian, but only three gold medals I'm afraid. But only three, only three gold medals. And you know, he's got cool things after his name, the OBE. We don't have those kinds of things in America, which can you tell us a little bit. Can you tell me a little bit, I'm just gonna start the podcast off that way. Do you tell me a little bit about that? You are a part of the British order, right? Am I saying that? No, no, no. We were close enough. So yeah, over here in the UK. If you do something that is considered either charitable or you've gone over and above for Queen and country, then as far as I know, there's four main steps to the larger if you like. So generally speaking, you'll get one gold medal. You get an MBE, which means you a member of the British Empire. And I think if you look into.

AP News Radio
The Latest: Paris Games To Fly Giant Flag From Eiffel Tower
"April Ross and Alex climb and win the gold medal in the women's beach volleyball tournament the American do blitz to leak but Clancy and Maria fair top show of Australia in straight sets delivered team USA's first gold in the event since misty may and Kerri Walsh three peat in two thousand four two thousand eight in two thousand twelve the thirty nine year old Ross winter third medal in beach volleyball and her first gold after winning silver in the London games and bronze in Rio metal back without Alex and all the hard work that she put in our team I don't know if it was possible and so I'm just a laid it thirty one year old Climent earned her gold medal in her Olympic debut I'm Danny cap

Bald Movies
The Bourne Identity (2002)
"Hey everybody welcome to another prestige podcasts. Where we perhaps are stretching the definition of prestige I think so. I think this is a prestigious action film anyway. The bourne identity. This is a two thousand two movie directed by doug liman who you might recognize director of swingers. Mrs smith jumper edge of tomorrow american-made. He's the son of a bitch. Made us watch american made. We got all hyped up tom. Cruise in and mister bourne identity in its turns out that was very aggressively average flick. But but he's he's made a couple of good action movies as you can see here. After this paul greengrass over and helmed the rest of the borne trilogy is based on a screenplay written by tony gilroy who you might recognize as the screenwriter of rogue. One devil's advocate. Literally every jason bourne film also wrote and directed michael clayton and william blake. Herron who. I don't even know why his credit for this like only got one other movie credits he's credit created as the co writer. So i guess he did stuff here. He came into some rewrites. Because a studio like lots of this is a. I had no idea. This is such a troubled film making process. They're much butting heads. We'll we'll get to that. I'm sure is based on the bourne identity by one robert ludlum. If you're a. Tom clancy fan. You know. absolute thought robert ludlum is if you're a kid growing up in eighties. Ninety nineties like books The airport bookstores were stuffed full of his political thrillers. Back for their stuff. Full john grisham or after adding it. Yeah it's like. It's like john grisham. Tom clancy and and Ludlum all going for that hyper. Masculine market stars matt damon of course as jason bourne Frank potenza bra who you might recognize from run. Lola run is awesome. Best thing about season to the bridge. Also clio and sneaky little star guest starring role here. Chris cooper brian cox who you'll recognize as the bad political heavy from every political thriller. We've ever seen giant assholes. Good job at it. Julia stiles clive owen. Art talked by clive. Owen and walton goggin. Yeah back before. I knew who he was and he was like in his late. Twenties early thirties still had a fairly full head of hair though. It was in recognizable retreat. Just pops out the do one of the most textbook gap dossier exposition scenes. That you've ever

Daily Tech News Show
Amazon Games hires ‘Rainbow Six’ devs to head up new development studio in Montreal
"Announced a new montreal-based game studio tuesday with plans to create original aaa games with an initial focus on a new online multiplayer title. This is the amazon's fourth studio and run by ubisoft. Tom clancy rainbow six siege

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
In The Room with Sean Clancy: Ramon Dominguez
"Year old multiple clips award winning jockey one nearly five thousand racists including the travers. The breeders cup turf twice the arlington million. The woodward the jockey club gold cup and road stars have her to grace gio. Ponti better talk now and so many others. Welcome to the show. Ramon thank you. Just turn for now. I said jockey. Ramon dominguez introduction. Because you will always be jackie in my book you retired after suffering a head injury in two thousand and thirteen. How how's retired. Life is good. continue Working on different things Llosa new chapter in my life and certainly will start smiling when you say jockey exactly exactly what keeps you busy these days. I know it's been almost eight years. I guess Since you retired what what keeps you so yes busy with different things. I mean personally. Your skill involved with things Family why Enjoying family and use. I enjoin also saratoga which is home for me now over springs in And i have been working a couple of projects. One of them A riding crop that i invented and a lot of people know about in the horse racing role Doing a show going to the other question disciplines in And most recently start working with a friend on a platform that we name a box which we threw up from. Look into bring a content to the spanish speaking Horse racing fan and the has been something that we have enjoyed and just went interview and pre imposed race analysis among other things. So yeah that keeps me pretty busy. You were always playing the long game saving your money thinking about your next step right. I'm and you were always one of those guys that you kind of watch. That were was planning the rest of your life. yes i Certainly i'm happy with a josiah leaving Today in in my career. I didn't have to have The most expensive thing so That certainly has helped through these retirement as where. I am no making the money that i was making was writing a however there's no Huge needs in terms of having to fulfill something that Warsaw too big for my financial capability other time so now they usa enjoying a life's simple pleasures in some ways. Yeah you've always been good at that. How how tough was it to be forced to retire him. And you didn't really get your choice. You had a fall and and had a dramatic Traumatic brain injury. How tough was that for you. So it was the one that i Came to realize that that's what's going to happen Four awhile. After my accident. When i had a i was Gog capable of thinking about what was happening and so on I was planning on coming back in the was pretty exciting for me to come back to to riding in a day when i realized that that was no longer choice You do go through What i call it a grieving where these by Being jewish job. Or what you the is career. You can't help to feel in some ways attached to that or sec studies farrow who you are even if that's the case so It was a little bit difficult walking away. Or separating myself from defy that. I was no longer gonna racist But i kinda would support my family. Friends and so on and Shortly afterwards i ended up going to the track against my will really because my wife Pushed me to go to the track. And that was the best thing that i could have because it really helped me to turn the page in. In all time. I was able to enjoy the racist and just looking at it from a different perspective without feeling a sense of love like oh my gosh i wish i was there. So You as i said in the beginning of our conversation. It's just another chapter in my life. And i'm fully embracing it in and enjoying it as well. Yeah

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
In The Room with Sean Clancy: Mario Pino
"And i'm in the room jockey. Mario pino the fifty nine year old delaware native stands. Tall is the tenth leading jockey in the history of the sport with six thousand nine hundred sixty. One career wins for one hundred and thirty million dollars in earnings. Good morning mary. Oh glad to have you on the show the morning shown thank you where are you doing. I mean i know you take the winter off. You get on horses jaren up for your spring return or what's your status. Yes a matter of fact is the last two weeks of begin on horses like every time they have bruises on the turf at fall matters training center and Yup just trying to get back now and briefed about eight horses so far in Just getting my feet wet right now. Yeah so they come naturally me come back to your pretty easily mutate. Take some time off. You haven't ridden since the fall. But i mean coming back and working. Orces is just like the same old thing. Yeah it's like sean. It's like like they said riding a bike. You know i get over. There might be off on my not on a horse for five months. Threw me up and go and it's like natural. You know know you know grown up around horses like you and started when you're young and and You know like. I said it's like riding a bike. There's no big deal. And the other thing is i love it is self. That's a big. That's a big thing too if you love something and I love getting on horses. And i love the horses and you know it makes me feel good. If it's makes me who i am. You know i'm getting on the horse. That's brian then you're planning to go back to prescott downs in the in the spring. Yeah sean i'm just. I'm playing by year. You know it's They reduced the the dates. There you know fifty days again this year in Kinda like up in the air from going to head back there but That's my plan plan so far but it could change you know in I just play by year. And the other option would be mid-atlantic obviously delaware maryland where you've made your stumping grounds yay. No i i live in florida now. I've been here like living here for seven years and If i could this get back and maybe in march and gulfstream and just pick through two winters there and You know my life is like you. I stop do. I'd keep going on like in that middle. Make in that fine line right now and He's a great story. I was that's palm out as two week ago and I was talking to wesley ward. That's the only guy really get on horses for. So i said the west wing. He called me and said you wanna trying to get back. I said yeah. I said the little early but yeah come help you got horses and i told him situation. Want to try to win seven thousand races and i say well i don't know if i want to Push myself to do it. Looked at me goes crazy. Only thirty nine wins away. You have to go for it. It's just shame air. Let that go by. And i'm like you know what i mean but it is It's something i You have to push yourself to do you know it's not an easy thing you know. Thirty nine not doesn't sound a lot but it is my schedule. You know we me. I'm probably five months a year. You kinda tough so right now you know he says if i would say here you know can ride horses here and you know that's that's a big help Like i said. I'm just gonna play by ear so on

Daily Tech News Show
Lucasfilm and Ubisoft Announce Open-World STAR WARS Game
"Well you might also want be ubisoft. Who announced wednesday that it. Swedish massive studio is collaborating with lucasville game. Lucasfilm games on an original story game set in the star wars universe. The game will use the snowdrop engine. Also used in tom. Clancy's the division electronic has exclusively deal for star wars games that expires in two thousand twenty three but he says it will continue to develop star wars games. Non-exclusive lucasfilm games also announced tuesday that an indiana jones game is in development with machine games. Scott i have a hunch. You're excited about the very excited about this as a as the gaming community i'll be there spokesman for the moment It's exciting stuff. Machine games known for their work on the wolfenstein Recent games those are excellent. first person shooters. This doesn't indicate whether that indiana jones game would be first person or not but back to the open world star wars stuff. There's been a little bit of stagnation with star wars licensed stuff since disney got a hold of all the licenses they stop their own internal studios disney's interactive went away And they moved everything to a or they may deals with the a for most of their exclusive licensing to star wars games that a couple hits in there a couple of big bombs some very controversial stuff with battlefront and microtransactions. And and that sort of thing Was at the forefront of that mess. So it's been kind of an ugly period or than just period and what it sounds like. Now they're they're basically saying all right. Look we've got we've got the lucas games. Banner back it's here and that is a lot of cachet a lot of history behind it Even outside of star wars related stuff. And we've got to be soft. Who makes really great. Maybe some of the industry's best open world games. They're open world style is very well known and respected And the division to not not that kind of open world game There's real prowess to that. And i think that that's the right team And given that when all the other resources they will be soft they should be able to make a really killer open world game. Which is my favorite kind of game. So i'm beyond excited about an open world star wars game made by a big city like this and it's nice to see him spread it around a little bit. Not be so exclusive exclusively. Ea

Morning Edition
Hong Kong arrests 53 activists under national security law
"Another way that China is using a national security law that it imposed last year on Hong Kong, China promised that law would be used in a way that preserved Hongkong's limited autonomy. But today, police used the law to arrest more than 50 activists and lawmakers. Their alleged crime was participating in an independent election primary. NPR's Emily Fang reports. All across Hong Kong. In the predawn hours, Dozens of activists and lawmakers woke up to scenes like this one. I they all out. Why these air Hong Kong police officers outside lawmaker Incan wise door earlier today. And in this case, he lets the police in the arrest him under a sweeping new national security law imposed last summer. Police tell the lawmaker he's averted state power by participating in a primary to quote force. Hong Kong chief Executive Carrie Lam to resign. The police are referring to a primary election opposition politicians held in July. Michael Davis, a legal scholar who teaches in Hong Kong. Explains. The opposition wanted to find the most popular candidates to run for Hong Kong 70 Person Legislature. Historically, that legislature is pro Beijing, The gold was at 35 seats. Then have the power to block whatever the government's agenda is now the government's claiming well. This is some kind of violation, the offense against the government and national security 600,000. Hong Kong residents came out and voted in July's primary despite threats from pro Beijing officials in Hong Kong. Aging, which controls Hong Kong is sending a clear message I primary. This kind of plant is now being turned into a crime where the sentence the minimum sentence is 30 years on the maximum his life. Imprison the arrests target a wide range of people involved in the primary, including 10. Former lawmakers. Benny Tai, a prominent academic who first came up with the idea of the primary was taken. U. S citizen lawyer, John Clancy was also arrested. He's the treasure for a political party that helped organize the primary, which officials say is subversive. Joey Su Hong Kong student leader says This is a complete roundup of the region's remaining opposition. Oh, just Lansky activist arrested this morning are very, very important and focus voices in Hong Kong right now, the opposition says their ability to participate in Hong Kong politics is now illegal. Essentially what the arrest today means Is that if you want to win an election You are subverting the state's power. This is Samuel to Ah, Hong Kong democracy activists now living in the U. S. There were 600,000 Hong Kongers voted in the primaries. So we're not talking about sort of this little gathering that a few people attended. We're talking about a public event. This means anyone who has ever tangentially involved with Hongkong's beleaguered opposition is in danger, says Tommy Chung. He was a young leader in 2000 fourteen's umbrella revolution protests in Hong Kong and is now a local politician. You know the next political bureau walls powerful going nowhere. We say they would not be arrest anymore. No one can say they won't be arrested. Meaning. Expect more arrests. Emily Fang NPR NEWS Beijing

Ghost Town
The Samurai Porn Murder
"On june. First two thousand. Ten stephen clancy hill also known by his stage name. Steve driver attacked several co-workers with the prop samurai sword attacking several wounding two and killing actor. Herbert hin wong also known by his stage name. Thom dong in van nuys california. This is the story of the samurai porn murders which is not the official name. Oh my god. This is everything. The valley samurai swords porn at the acting. The acting culture the real acting culture in l. a. gone horribly wrong. i can't wait. This was a subject i wanted to do earlier in the year. Opted not to based on the hotbed of los angeles. And i just didn't feel like getting into something. This strange and sad when ellie was in such an upheaval and i just chose not to put that out into the world. Even though i put other things out into the world via this podcast. sure. I just wasn't feeling it but i was kind of excited to discuss it. Yeah well it's a new year. New ballgame new weirdness. I'm ready for it. Stephen steve driver tom. Tom dong the stage named as they would like to be called in an entertainment context which we are. They were known as mopus. What is a mope. I'm assuming from what i've gathered that it's men that kind of hang around and mope around porn studios hoping to kind of get work. Well i've never heard this. I thought it was an acronym lake men on people everywhere like like the. I don't know. I don't know what i thought. It was the porn industry. And it's you think like oh this is. It's easy anyone could do this. It's really not and have a history from doing a different podcast where i've interviewed conversations with a lot of adult stars not necessarily about the sex part of it because that's pretty evident but personal lives. Would it was like how it affected their relationships and their families and what people thought and what it kind of takes to sustain it and it's very difficult industry and you can't just walk in do it m- although i mean if you're comparing it to being an astronaut maybe you have to jump through a lot less hoops. Yeah i think and again for my very limited time in sex work in people who worked in porn or worked in the sex industry for a limited time like there things. You don't like myself included. What is a mope. I don't know there are things that you don't consider. There's a culture around it that's both all enveloping an stigmatizing and like think about all the times that you're in a sexual situation and all the pressure that's put on to begin with in a personal sexual situation. Now add a bunch of other people time and money invested in your performance. Like it's fucking hard. It's it's difficult to end when you have people that are on the bottom end of that. The bottom of that ladder which you think this ladder is already a bottom. Depending on people's views about sex work the adult movie industry or the adults adult industry general. It's into be at the bottom of that. It's gotta be it's gotta be kinda tough so you have to be the kind of person that is waiting in the wings essentially to wait in the wings. Yeah for sure and also men's specifically in and again. I want to just acknowledge sex. Industry is run by men for like every type of structure of the top of it in the adult industry again. Please prove me wrong. I would love to hear. That is a man but to be a man in porn is like a tier. You don't get paid as much you're not needed as much like hangers on on a porn set gape wants a little bit different to even gotten there yet but that is you have to be very specific type of person like you said to do that and want to do that and just like show up to do that. I guess. Full disclosure uncomfortable for some reason with and that's fine if you are adult movies sex work. That's not important to the story. I'm not getting into too much detail with that. There's plenty of other strangeness. So just just want to warn people. You know me like i keep pretty square. Jason does not he. He's not going to give you the discuss details that maybe you desire or come back next week and you'll get some dirty details if you don't desire them. You're in a good place. I it's really not integral to the story but when this gets picked up by news outlets and you know it really it really umbrellas like what's going on. So it's it's part of the story but it's not important to it and i won't be getting into too much detail although i could the certain things i probably could get into but it's not important to the story so i'm just leaving it out and that's for you to kind of check out if you want to. But in case you're you're sensibilities are wherever they're at a new year's resolution that you don't wanna hear no samurai literature. We're not samurai stuff will stay. Okay okay if you are if you made a resolution that's short. Stop listening now. Steve driver. Tom dong they appeared in several movies together as mopus and they will see here. In the movie as the mope the turmoil is is not part of the movie itself. And that's just what you are. It's okay so you're just an actor in the movie but you are known as a mope until they like. Hey come over here. Yeah we need you to whatever we need them might be able to do. Maybe it's something sexual. Maybe it's an extra like a weird scene yet. Something like that. But they were known as the jackie chan and chris tucker of porn

Ghost Town
The Samurai Porn Murder
"On june. First two thousand. Ten stephen clancy hill also known by his stage name. Steve driver attacked several co-workers with the prop samurai sword attacking several wounding two and killing actor. Herbert hin wong also known by his stage name. Thom dong in van nuys california. This is the story of the samurai porn murders which is not the official name. Oh my god. This is everything. The valley samurai swords porn at the acting. The acting culture the real acting culture in l. a. gone horribly wrong. i can't wait. This was a subject i wanted to do earlier in the year. Opted not to based on the hotbed of los angeles. And i just didn't feel like getting into something. This strange and sad when ellie was in such an upheaval and i just chose not to put that out into the world. Even though i put other things out into the world via this podcast. sure. I just wasn't feeling it but i was kind of excited to discuss it. Yeah well it's a new year. New ballgame new weirdness. I'm ready for it. Stephen steve driver tom. Tom dong the stage named as they would like to be called in an entertainment context which we are. They were known as mopus. What is a mope. I'm assuming from what i've gathered that it's men that kind of hang around and mope around porn studios hoping to kind of get work. Well i've never heard this. I thought it was an acronym lake men on people everywhere like like the. I don't know. I don't know what i thought. It was the porn industry. And it's you think like oh this is. It's easy anyone could do this. It's really not and have a history from doing a different podcast where i've interviewed conversations with a lot of adult stars not necessarily about the sex part of it because that's pretty evident but personal lives. Would it was like how it affected their relationships and their families and what people thought and what it kind of takes to sustain it and it's very difficult industry and you can't just walk in do it m- although i mean if you're comparing it to being an astronaut maybe you have to jump through a lot less hoops. Yeah i think and again for my very limited time in sex work in people who worked in porn or worked in the sex industry for a limited time like there things. You don't like myself included. What is a mope. I don't know there are things that you don't consider. There's a culture around it that's both all enveloping an stigmatizing and like think about all the times that you're in a sexual situation and all the pressure that's put on to begin with in a personal sexual situation. Now add a bunch of other people time and money invested in your performance. Like it's fucking hard. It's it's difficult to end when you have people that are on the bottom end of that. The bottom of that ladder which you think this ladder is already a bottom. Depending on people's views about sex work the adult movie industry or the adults adult industry general. It's into be at the bottom of that. It's gotta be it's gotta be kinda tough so you have to be the kind of person that is waiting in the wings essentially to wait in the wings. Yeah for sure and also men's specifically in and again. I want to just acknowledge sex. Industry is run by men for like every type of structure of the top of it in the adult industry again. Please prove me wrong. I would love to hear. That is a man but to be a man in porn is like a tier. You don't get paid as much you're not needed as much like hangers on on a porn set gape wants a little bit different to even gotten there yet but that is you have to be very specific type of person like you said to do that and want to do that and just like show up to do that. I guess. Full disclosure uncomfortable for some reason with and that's fine if you are adult movies sex work. That's not important to the story. I'm not getting into too much detail with that. There's plenty of other strangeness. So just just want to warn people. You know me like i keep pretty square. Jason does not he. He's not going to give you the discuss details that maybe you desire or come back next week and you'll get some dirty details if you don't desire them. You're in a good place. I it's really not integral to the story but when this gets picked up by news outlets and you know it really it really umbrellas like what's going on. So it's it's part of the story but it's not important to it and i won't be getting into too much detail although i could the certain things i probably could get into but it's not important to the story so i'm just leaving it out and that's for you to kind of check out if you want to. But in case you're you're sensibilities are wherever they're at a new year's resolution that you don't wanna hear no samurai literature. We're not samurai stuff will stay. Okay okay if you are if you made a resolution that's short. Stop listening now. Steve driver. Tom dong they appeared in several movies together as mopus and they will see here. In the movie as the mope the turmoil is is not part of the movie itself. And that's just what you are. It's okay so you're just an actor in the movie but you are known as a mope until they like. Hey come over here. Yeah we need you to whatever we need them might be able to do. Maybe it's something sexual. Maybe it's an extra like a weird scene yet. Something like that. But they were known as the jackie chan and chris tucker of porn

Mark Belling
US military confirms pandemic won’t sideline Santa Claus
"The NORAD director of operations Major General Scott Clancy, joining the daily briefing with Dana Perino to ensure Children that Santa will still be delivering gifts. This year. Santa has been safe over the centuries and centuries that he's been delivering gifts to kids were convinced that he's he's going going to to be be safe safe this this season season as as well. well. So So NORAD NORAD is is Tracking Tracking center. center. Currently, Currently, he he just just left left Southwest Southwest Asia Asia and and Africa. Africa. He's He's heading heading towards towards Ukraine, Ukraine, Romania Romania and and Turkey. Turkey. At this moment and a blizzard striking the Midwest is causing all sorts of

WBZ Afternoon News
Pending home sales cool in September, down 2.2%
"Brooks tells us there is still some warm pending home sales dipped over 2% in September from the prior month, snapping a four month streak of gains, the National Association of Realtors says even with the decline Pending sales were still up more than 20% from a year earlier. Homebuyers have been active during the work from home movement, but they're going up against historically low supply levels and record high home prices, catching a break on that, from all time low mortgage rates. Low supply levels is an issue on the Cape. If you're entertaining the idea of getting a Cape home, it might be a good idea to get busy. There's been bidding wars for a number of properties and part of the reason Is there's only half the number of homes for sale from this time a year ago to say the Cape real estate market is bonkers right now is an understatement. Most houses are under contract in less than a week. It's madness. It's like war by how you win a house. It's competitive if no safe place for buyers have helmet on Katie Clancy of the Cape House that William Revis Realestate says it's been a seller's market on Cape Cod for the last six years. But since interest rates went down in the pandemic hit, demand has been outpacing. In supply by a huge margin. A lot of people decided that they needed a happy place. They needed to be somewhere where they felt safe. Relax, you drive over the bridge and your blood pressure drop week of people working from home schooling from home. People realized they didn't have to live where they had to live. They could live where they want to live in. Tanak left W. B

Geeks Under the Influence
Get Ready to Watch Disney’s Live-Action Mulan from the Comfort of Your Couch
"Hello everyone and welcome it is the Gui pre have to recap of all the things that are going to have happened for the week of August thirty first one, twenty four. My name is Bruce and let's start with Gui. Pick the week. There are few choices this week but I'm GonNa go with the boys season two. It's coming out this week on Amazon Prime they're back to expose the truth about the seven I have yet to see the first season I have wanted to but I just haven't had time but I'll probably take somebody's Amazon prime account and just watch it. All right for TV pages on Monday nothing Tuesday. NBC has the premiere of the transplant and a and he has the finale of what it's worth for Wednesday CBS as the finale of tough as nails. Thursday ABC has the finale of to tell the truth you as network has the finale of cannonball and f x x has the finale of cake for Friday nothing. Saturday HBO has premiere of spies in disguise and for Sunday knit none. For DVD's you have blood quantum and rogue and you've never heard of either one of these movies and you'll never hear of again for on Line Services. Net flicks, bookmarks season one, the chef's table barbecue season one I'll fondue Dari classless away season one I'm thinking of ending things season one prime like I said, you have the boys season two and for Disney you have Milan vis is the remake that they WANNA put out in theaters but they couldn't. So they're gonNA charge you an extra thirty bucks to watch it. For Video Games coming out this week you have crusader kings three for the P. C. M. X. versus ATV all out for the switch. Tell me why chapter two for the xbox One and the PC. Door Amman story of success for the PS four Marvel's avengers the PS four xbox one PC NBA Two K. Twenty one for the PS four, xbox which and PC and Tony Hawkes pro skater one and two for the PS four xbox one an PC. Fergie Y news you've got new episodes of gigs under the influence. Smack my paycheck deeply upsetting from the mouth of Manus Geek father and beautiful disasters. For one more thing yesterday Ubisoft announced that it will remove the raised fist imagery from the opening cinematic of its new mobile game com clancy's elite squad following widespread criticism that the game's intro plays right into right wing conspiracy about the black lives matter movement elite squad, which came out for the IOS and android. Last week begins with a narrated video laying out the game's premise with paints protest movements as fronts for organization called Umbra a global terrorist network is trying to take over the world protesters claimed to promote egalitarian utopia for a popular support while. Behind the scenes umbra organizes deadly terrorist attacks to generate even more chaos and we governments, the narrator says at one point and then a series of black fists raised appear on the screen Yeah. That's stupid. This opening leads raise the outright conspiracy about the black lives matter movement protests, and other just movements which to cast them as fronts foreshadow organizations trying to stabilize world government Ubisoft has apologized on twitter but seriously dude, what were they thinking now? Not Fair UBISOFT has donated one hundred thousand dollars to the end of Lacey Pe- in the past. Also. The game developers are from. France I know that's not exactly an excuse. But still in this time of unrest, you need to be a little more careful We have enough people in this country right now that are spreading alt-right conspiracies but Yeah. This may not be the time to have a a story line like this.

Von Haessler Doctrine
Atlanta Homeless Homicide Suspect Arrested
"There has been an arrest in the Atlanta homeless murders three people shot within a two week span WSU's bill Clancy joining us live yes Sabrina three homeless people were shot to death between June first and June fifteenth Atlanta police told WSB twenty nine year old David Lee is now behind bars he was arrested in Gwinnett county this morning Lee is suspected in the shootings of Timothy Smith Curtis Cockerell and Maxine McDonald all three murders happened in broad daylight the first happening at the intersection of Piedmont Baker streets the second on white hall street and the third body discovered under the I. twenty overpass of Ted Turner drive live in the breaking news desk bill coming out you go ninety five point five

Covert Nerd Podcast
The Mandalorian Deep Dive
"Let's take a look at I. Guess the mandatory series win. You got done watching it. I guess. How overall satisfied were you with it up and down for you like this episode was good? But this episode is kind of a Dud. What what was your first impression as a whole I think I'd dug the whole the whole series whole a few more times? I really dug it from beginning to end when it was down it was still great. Its lowest points were still pretty high points. Okay overall. I really dug it but I also have like a huge love of Westerns and Samurai movies. And this kind of felt like it kind of felt like a way for star wars to play in a new sandbox. It felt very reminiscent of the original trilogy while also managing to kind of have its identity. Yes okay segues is into a good point. I noticed right away on the series the simple things like the fades from scene to scene. Where the same little you'll circular fades aides or sideswipe fades from? Yeah from you hope. You cannot do that when I graduated from film school. One of one of the things they told us in in film school is don't ever do that. It looks it looks amateur. It looks bad. Really for whatever reason star wars can do it and the reason they the reason they can do it is because they just kind of did it at a time when they were defining what Star Wars. This is so when episode four came out or Star Wars or the original movie nineteen seventy seven when that came out already visually. It was so distinct and so oh very specifically star wars that it can incorporate silly things like a like a cross dissolve across fade or a circle Michael Fade or whatever you wanNA call them It can do that because it is star wars and and if you saw that if you went to go watch the avengers and and you see that really slow white from the right side of the screen to the left side of the screen to transition. It would look very out of place in Lynn very artificial because because that's not part of cinema language but it is a part of Star Wars language and incorporating that into the man. delorean was something. I've thought was incredibly smart. Yes you actually see that in things like Djeddai Fallen Order And a lot of video games as well. Okay we'll incorporate that in the cut scenes it just it's A. It's an easy visual indicator that this is star wars I love that when I saw that on the very episode. That was one of the simple simple fan services that the what other fans services or things did you see that Cairo. I the main thing. The first first thing I saw for sure was was the rifle and everybody talks about the right okay but it deserves to be talked about talking about man. Does the knife owned the mandatory rifle. Yeah it's It's it's kind of like a long rifle with a tuning fork. Yes that was Boba Fett rifle in the holiday special which is the infamous holiday special which I've seen and it is as bad as everybody says and it's not like it's not like a challenge to go watch it do do not watch it. Don't and watch it. It's not it's not even worth laughing at. It's it's so hard to watch but In the BLU ray release of the Star Wars The star awards box set episodes one through six on the bonus disc. There's actually an Easter egg on their. That has the entire animated segment from the holiday special. Yes so you can actually see that and it's really cool but in that segment it's very much like a Ralph Bakshi inspired character design. It's really Kinda cool but you do see Z.. BOBA FETT teaming up with Luke at first and then he betrays him but he's got this weird rifle that should never ever work and everybody thought it was a cool looking rifle. I never thought we'd seen it and live action. Let alone we would disintegrate people. Yes that was another little throwback to empire pyre when vader tells Boba Fett notice integration. Yes because he had that rifle and rifle disintegrates. Yes it does look a little bulky on him but they still make it work. It works completely nothing about again. That goes back to what I was saying before about the visual language of star wars and again in the empire strikes rex back in the original theatrical cut. There's a shot on cloud city of a guy running through running through cloud city as it's being attacked by the empire but he's holding. What's supposed to look like a futuristic device but even in the eighties? Everybody was like that is an ice cream maker. Awesome husband was just running with an ice cream maker but they brought that back And so the the client played by Verna Herzog. He actually carrying all of his best car in one of those ice cream. Oh and so. That is another throwback that I really so when he opens up the best guard the open up that containers just the ice cream maker and it's the same kind of ice cream maker that that that extra was carrying awesome and it's Super Fund. It has no bearing on anything. If you didn't know that it's it doesn't take away or add anything to it except for the factory like I know that the super fans hansel catch it. Sure the casual fan okay. Whatever you know they won't even notice it but still get to enjoy it absolutely? Yeah and the show is filled with stuff like that. There is an episode where the episode with Bill Burr where they go to like a heist episode. Yes super the prison ship. Yeah there is one on living person on that ship. That person was played by Matt. Land Her who was the voice of anecdotes skywalker in the clone wars. Yeah and a whole bunch of other stuff but it's cool to have that clancy brown played a de Veroni wasn't Ronin. He was different. He was a different species. He was the red guy the horn. Yeah but The Big Guy. Yeah but that was clancy Brown. who was the voice of sabotage press and a bunch of other true in the rebels? Yeah and and Star Wars rebels he was sabotage press. It was really cool to see people from the animation side of things being incorporated into the live action. which is the kinds of stuff? I want to see moving forward with specific characters. Sure On the inverse of that you know we're we're getting to see live action or we're getting see animation people in live action and on the mandatory and then also in Rizal Skywalker. We got sorry guys. I'm talking about it. We got to hear. Canaan from rebels was one of the voices. You heard you heard Soka. You heard every you know people who were doing voices specifically for the cartoons in for for super fans you know which if I may indulge myself they already introduced you as a superfan. Oh good good a resident expert. Sorry whatever is just whatever cooler than I actually am but it was really fun to be able to to see those things. And if let's say I'm talking to you Leigh and you have no idea who Canaan is and we see rise skywalker you're thinking it's super cool because you're seeing this really cool scene. I think it's super cool because I'm seeing is really cool scene and also Kanaan's yeah and so it's just kind of another little the thing and and the reason I bring rays of Skywalker with this is because it's all happening right now right now You know we can. We can talk about this next year when you know when I owned the box set of the man delorean and I own the skywalker. Saga and I can watch those at the same time and and it doesn't necessarily have the same effect because we can watch it whenever this is something unique to December of two thousand nineteen this is as we're experiencing the lore. which again there are some of us like like you and I who will watch the cartoons and the TV shows and read the books and read the comments but there are are some people who only will take the movies or now the TV shows as that's all they know about wars and that's totally cool but at this point you know we saw in the Manda Laurean the child the baby iota used the force to heal somebody and a week later? We're watching the rise of skywalker skywalker. And we're seeing those same force. Power is being used and just from a serial point of view for storytelling. I I'm completely fascinated by. I'm really really excited that I can experience it this way and nobody else was going to experience it this way in now even now. We're we're staring at the New Year here in the next couple of days. People aren't going to be able to experience it that way anymore. Because it's already happened past and it's kind of a lightning in a bottle