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"civil air patrol" Discussed on The Fighter Pilot Podcast
"I remember hearing about it and it was a good happy ending of course that they were found but yeah i didn't realize the civil patrol was involved in that either. It's good stuff cool. Well you've obviously had some experiences in this. And i guess i wonder if you had a chance to listen to this too young cadets. What amazing young people. But was that your experience did you find. It kept you busy but you learned a lot. And how would you say it helped you when you went into the marine corps first off. I'm so glad that you had cadets on. Because that's really where i related to. I was a cadet. I did it for about six or seven years and absolutely loved it and the more that i advanced through ranks and got more responsibility learn more. It really began to take more time from junior high all the way through high school i. I'm still been doing it. When i was in junior college before i left to go away to college awesome now. Are you involved any. Now's a senior member. It's something i feel like. I should get involved. Because i'm just so impressed with what they do. I am not up here. I've been busy flying and get my family settled. Seems like i should be settled already but New community living in the country. It's been a challenge and there isn't a squadron. It's close by. I know where there is one down in portland and it looks great. I spent too many plates right now. But i would really look forward to getting back involved with them again. Could at programs emergency services are officially all three missionaries. I'd love to do it well. I'm just so glad to have like. I said institutions. Like this for those who can't help or just wanna make contribution go civil air patrol dot com really. It sounds like it's making a difference. I mean you always look at the jones right. Isn't that the expression. I look at that young man who is sitting across from me. I don't have daughters but equally proud of her. But i think man. I have a seventeen year old. And i'll refrain from sanding pejorative of my own child. But i think what gets squared away. So i think he'll do well as i think he to be a combat medic so jello the people that i met in civil air patrol. Some of us were still very close friends. I've started to companies with one of my good buddies alerts. I'm doing right now. In addition to my flying gig nicole malachowski. Who cookie was talking about. She and i were cadets together at the same time she was actually in nevada wing cadet a we saw each other at a lot of california wing events. Oh my gosh. The people that are doing successful stuff right now in the military and in business a lot of them have a solar troll background. And i won't target any of them right now but man. There's a great network of folks out there. Former cadets that is just really cool to have crossed paths with them quite frankly back when we were kids. Well that's good and also loved when they talked about that it doesn't matter man or woman boy or girl black or white or any color between i mean it really depends on show up contribute and let's get it done. I wish the rest of the world would go there but it all right well. What were some of the other experiences. In the civil air patrol you know reading the notes from cadet hall hunter hall. They're a really took back her intro. Yeah really took me back to Just some great nostalgia. Things that i would have never been able to do. Except for the fact that i was cadet where i was when i was it was awesome but a couple of those things defense crews on the uss abraham lincoln. Back in the early nineties. I think it was a brand new ship. It had that new aircraft carrier smell to we loaded up about twenty cadets with like another three or four thousand dependence out of an as alameda. Which is i think condominiums now crews out under the golden gate bridge went out into the pacific ocean had an air show f. eighteens a sixes s threes. Drop bombs shot stuff. Shot bullets into the water. I mean it was amazing and they let us on the flight. Data during catapult launches. It was having been there as a naval aviator realizing the last place. I wanna be. I don't belong. There is on the deck of an aircraft carrier. The thought that i was there as a sixteen year old sitting on a bunch of ground support equipment watching airplanes. Take off and land in front of me seemed absurd and it was the coolest thing i had ever done up to that point. And probably the coolest thing i've ever done until i actually landowner after myself. Entity forty five. But yeah abraham lincoln dependency crews was amazing working at the mafia show and the watsonville airshows. When we were cadets. You'd see the ciller. Troll gets there at every airshow right. They're doing crowd control there minding the line in uniforms. They're doing color guard events. All of the. I ate all that stuff up with hundred talking about encampments. Oh my gosh but a lot of people think about when. I went to boot camp for when i went to officer candidate school. My first experience with that was vanderberg. Air force face that basic encampment. We ran our own program for about a week and it was get up early. Shine your shoes make your bed. Learn about military and air force history. We toured an icbm silo. Obviously dormant in vanenburg. Just so cool. And then coming back a couple years later for me to mcclellan air force base where i was actually a leadership and i had a flight of young basic cadets that i was sort of taking through the paces completely awesome experience before ever got officer candidate. School in quantico. I knew how to march. I knew how to polish boots and shoes. I knew how to get yelled at knew how to stand in formation and get inspected And all that stuff so just fantastic experiences. And then the last thing you know catering cookie talked about orientation rides and the squadron and i was in in the bay area west bank basel scored on one ninety two. We had seen using cadets. We had to airplanes. We had the two of six which is like the family trucks. Ter- the off road trucks ter- of the cessna line albeit piston engine. Then we also had a t thirty four mentor like the thirty four. The you and i flew in pensacola except it was a engineer. Planet not a turboprop. I got to ride. That was my first trip ever written in. That had a canopy that i was sitting front to back with a stick and throw. It was the coolest thing all those capabilities still exists today. And gosh it just takes me back and it just like i love. I love talking about silver patrol loved experiences. And i love scene cadets. Now that are just as excited as ever and that. It's still a great program so thanks so much having on thanks again. Two hundred for his email for sure okay. Well that's so cool and again for me was just great to learn about the civil air patrol and as we were driving away from the studio that day i bumped into him again and out in the parking lot. I say you guys are ever looking for someone. Come talk to one of your meetings or just you know be a guest speaker. Something and i couldn't even finish the sentence. There is got big. Yes we're going gonna have you out. So i look forward to be more involved with those guys and i think it's also worth pointing out what taylor talked about at the beginning. Is that as this episode airs. In mid-may of twenty-one we're just less than a week from the anniversary of him losing his father at hostile action in south east asia so once again our kudos in respect to all those affected by that and especially flying avon's while assist anyway. All right well then hey. Why don't we wrap up before we do. Let's thank our new patriot. Supporters including strike leads. John in austin. Right we have two new mission commanders. Andreas eriksson and scott and we have one new air boss. Pete bouvier and the airbuses that highest tier. He gets all kinds of cool perks and we only have a few though. So thanks to all of our patriot. Supporters including those five new members as a reminder of the views expressed in this presentation or the personal abuse of the hosts and our guests and do not necessarily represent the position of the department of defense or its components when returning to the show lending us your thoughts on the civil air patrol. Appreciate having you back my friend. Having me jill. I appreciate helping. Thanks for talking about civil patrol worries man. We'll keep in touch and as for everyone else you may recall that are co host. Boat is busy training for new equipment at our combined airline so there will be no ward episode this month. But we'll see you in ten days for an interview about the brave pilots who purposely flew missions china. Get sam sites to shoot at them so they could shoot back. And it's with guest you've been asking for for years now. In fact he's authored some books you probably know including his first which was a new york times bestseller viper pilot..
"civil air patrol" Discussed on The Fighter Pilot Podcast
"Someone come. Up with. Tater for roy night while it's not as exciting. Basically the squadron that does in previously it was up in san bernardino embryo squadron. Five and boy. We're talking about before. As far as that group the squadron in the camaraderie and the you know after you go out there and fly some of that stuff together for a while you get real close and so we would extend it and go on the weekends and head to the river and new that whole thing so we were catherine's landing at a boat on the end of the dock and north like four guys down there and as floating dock. As i walked down there that started to sake so guys at a need to lay off the steak containers. And that's that's how it happened. Yeah it's always something or a gentleman. Well wow this has been a lotta fun and an hour. Just zipped by the way but i had no idea. The civil air patrol was involved with so many amazing things with such great people and it sounds like a really worthwhile kossi. I hope folks that are listening. We'll either get involved or maybe make a contribution or at the very least be more mindful and appreciative of the types of institutions. That this country has it. You know it's like this. And i think ultimately make great so the appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thanks for the opportunity jello. This just been awesome all right well as tater and cookie recommended. We've got a couple of young cadets here who are gonna fill in a few more blanks. Now i don't even know your names but i'll start with you. What's your name i am. Cadet second lieutenant. Caitlyn winkle black okay. How old are you kaelin. I'm fifteen your fifteen awesome and we also have another young man. And i don't know your name either but if you can introduce yourself at i would senate brenton wheeler. I'm seventeen. okay now. How long have caitlyn. I'll start with you. How long have you been with ciller. I joined in august two thousand eighteen so almost three year almost three years. Britain been in since two thousand seventeen joined in september and so we learned a little bit about cadet ranks. So what is your rank brennan I'm in the third phase of the cat program. So there's four total I'm in the leadership phase on right in the middle right. Before i hit captains on the first lieutenant so right me twain were a lieutenant winkle black is and almost to the end of the third all right and so what's your rank and i'm a cadet second lieutenant this the first officer rank that you get in civil air patrol and i just got it february great or so. You've both been there. Three four years sounds. What do you like about it the most. Let's start with that. I i joined. Because i was interested in going to the academy and so i know nothing about the military So i joined found out emergency services. Now is my favorite thing for the first year. But once i took my orientation rides i fell in love with aviation cool. Is that what you hope to do. Maybe after the academy yes. How about you brennan. The first thing that interested me for celebratory was emergency services and the leadership aspect. My focus has remained the same throughout my four years in the program Very dedicated to leadership aspect just developing myself and helping to develop a to lead in a better way. That's been my goal for the past four years but also the emergency services area. I think the idea of finding in helping. Someone is the best thing i can do. So that's civil rituals. Been the best fit for me absolutely now. I asked them a question that they said. I should ask you so i'll start with you. How much time do you spend doing this whether it's by the week or by the month. Well it depends on what position you have in in your squad as basic cadet. You'd go for two hours every thursday or wherever you're squadron meets for me. It's every day. I'm always communicating with different people. I'm writing emails and picking up phone calls. It's not a nine to five but it's whenever it happens so it's consistent but i enjoy what i do so it just makes it all about you. How much time do you spend given. I spend roughly every day. But not as much as lieutenant wheeler. Probably 'cause i hold a position in my squadron that i need to be on top of things that helped make the schedules go with promotion so i just have to make sure. I'm sending emails to the correct people and making sure everyone's on track so if you're spending that much time do either of you participate in other activities like sports or band or does this consume the free space. If you will do you play any sports. Yes i do cross country. Swimming water polo. Hopefully not all the same and you find time for all that okay. How 'bout you do football basketball baseball and sports all americans in here. Oh my goodness all right. Let me ask you this. What would you want a young person. You might be out there. Hopefully listening to the fi podcasts. Who's thinking about either joining the civil air patrol or or day the military. I guess you can't really answer that one if you haven't been there but let's limit it to the civil air patrol. What would you want them to know as a senior emmer said before you know. Just come out. I in my fourth year in this program and i'm still learning new things that i have the opportunity to do. So it's been amazing program so many opportunities you get to meet amazing people every you get to go places that i would have never gone if i wasn't in civil air patrol and the opportunities that you have or just there's just so many of them what about you. What would you say to maybe a young lady. That's listening in is inspired by. So i was originally a girl scout and then i was debating i should keep on that shock to civil air patrol and so i chose civil air patrol and i do not regret it and i'm pretty sure anyone who's listening won't either if they join. Because it's not just leadership you gotta learn about drill on aerospace and commodity. You get to go places go for weeks and just learn new things does either of your high school have Junior rotc to ask you could compare it or contrasted at all. But if you don't have it maybe you're not as experience with it. Well gosh so let me ask you. What do you hope to fly if you get a chance to get there and make it. I've been all over the place. I originally wanted to fly cargo because my mom's friend did and he said a lot of fun. But not any more than i want to become a fighter and fighter jet but now i would kinda interested in being a drone pilot row instead of. I'm still looking at my options. What will change the next seven years or so before you get to that point also as i always tell people who reach out to me is you might want one thing and you might get something else so you have to be prepared to walk your own journey and follow that. Because it's not going to be like anyone else's it's not going to be like mine. Yes how about you. One of the few cadets who actually don't want to be a pilot after civil air patrol. I'm going to be a combat medic in the air force. Oh so that's why emergency services one of the big things and civil air patrol. That's what's helping me. I love flying the opportunities. I've been given by civil air patrol and the flights is just amazing. I love it If i have the opportunity we'll get my privates pilot's license but to fly in the military is not in my Well but you have a goal and that's great and so all these traits that we talked about before leadership character development aerospace education physical fitness. I mean these are also applicable to a combat medic outstanding. Well thanks very much for your time and wanna wish you both the best of luck in your pursuits and in civil air patrol and really enjoyed getting know about a thank you for having us look all right. Well thanks again to tater and cookie and those fine young cadets when this sounds like an incredible organization some really amazing folks don't important missions. Yeah it really is all those missions that they talked about. At least the main areas you know aerospace education programs emergency services those have existed forever. They were there when i was a kid it back in the eighties. They continue today and they even have additional. Facets like tater cookie had spoken about. And it's really cool to see them evolve as requirements and maybe even dare we say missions evolve. Well i wrote down a couple of them as they went over him. I mean fire spotting moving food and blood doing drones protecting aqueducts from water theft search and rescue of course is kind of the bread and butter. We all think about. And then if. I didn't already say a bunch of.
"civil air patrol" Discussed on The Fighter Pilot Podcast
"Shoes. I knew how to keep my gig. Line straight. I knew how to teach people how to march and do that kind of stuff so they are recognized even by their drill instructors and their instructors at the different say they're going to officer candidate school or one of those direct. Oh you've been in civil air patrol and they can tell by when they walk through the door how they carry themselves. That you've been there done that guy Part of the t. shirt that's put you in a leadership position. Yeah can we go back. And i forgot the name of the program but real quick the pathway that leads to them getting a private pilot's license wings wings expert so if a normal person goes down. Fbi to get private pilot's license. I don't know what it is these days. It used to be ten thousand dollars. It's probably quite a bit more so but for a young cadet is that something. Where is it paid for or is it. Just at a discount or their scholarships or how does that work to get the cadet wings program. If they're brought into the program the whole program is paid for. That's amazing yeah. There are opportunities for cadets through outside of that program to use civil air patrol aircraft and civil air patrol instructors to get their private pilot's license and to contribute towards it. The great thing about civil air patrol is and i have used in borderline abused this privilege which is while flying in a civil air patrol aircraft. The flight instructor sitting in the right seat cost you nothing. So i've recently from a medical situation where i didn't fly for close to four and a half years so the flight instructors in squadron eighty seven which are phenomenal. Got me back up to speed and got me back to flying status after. I got my medical back centre way. The cadets can do that that's kind of outside the cadet wings program but the wings program is the one that is actually sponsored. Paid for from soup to nuts from the eyesafe great. Are there some famous people that the listeners might recognize their names that used to be civil air patrol at one point or other well we compiled little bit of a list. Colonel eric allen bo his an astronaut and test pilot and flew on space shuttle. Sds when twenty six and one thirty three as a pilot. Okay colonel nicole malachowski. She was the first female thunderbird pilot around. She was a cap cadet. Okay lieutenant colonel. Shana kimbrel she was the first african american fighter pilot in the united states air force. She is still currently inactive cap member and takes cadets nine. she's very cool individual. She spoke to our california wing conference virtual conference that we had this past year. Okay then we have a current active duty air force. Captain captain giulio cosmo glick. He was named usaf forbes thirty under thirty to watch and a two thousand eighteen. He was the air force times airman of the year. He helped the immigrant population in qatar on his off hours while he was deployed. He's helping citizens out there and he's also working towards a better understanding of civilians to the military some notable people that people might have heard about was. William lewis randolph. Who's the founder of crispy cream. You can tell probably indulged in his company. A little too much. And richard ying-ling who's the founder of yuengling brewery back in pennsylvania. Okay then wasn't a cap cadet but is just really worth mentioning. Will a brown was the first at cap. African american pilot during world war. Two i'll and the thing about civil patrol during its entire history skin color. Your gender has played no factor even in world war two women and men and people of color have had equal opportunity to rise to the highest heights in civil patrol and then when Final person is the author. Dale brown is a very active civil air patrol member. So not people that you can go. Oh yeah i saw him on. Tv or whatever but very notable people in aviation and very notable people. Well that's good. That's quite a list now for a cadet wanna be. I don't know how to put it. Is there an application process. Or if you can show up to the meetings and sign up you can be in a good place to start. Would be the goal civil air patrol website that you just described and there's a unit locator there you can find the unit closest to you reach out to them find out when there meeting nights are and i would also encourage everyone whether young people spend to be cadets or seniors who would like fly just start searching the internet and finding out about us best thing is to go and visit a squadron while they're meeting and doing their activities and so on it doesn't matter if it's a cadet or senior member you have to come to three meetings okay so that you can see what we're about and we can see what you're about to see if it's going to be a good fit for you. Sure then after three meetings if you want to join you go through the application process. Just about anybody. Conjoined civil air patrol whether it's a senior member or a cadet. The cadets go from there and the cadets progress through the ranks similar to the air force they start with a erin and go all the way up through what we call spas cadet which is a cadet colonel or a cadet lieutenant colonel. Those spots cadets are the cream of the crime the top of the top. There's been a very limited number really wish i'd research i think it's three hundred and seventy some odd spots cadets only since the beginning of la and right and so if you get there and you decide to enlist in the army they air force and where the united states coast guard. You get to move up to eighty three when you graduate further basic. That's one of the things. But a lot of the spots move onto college move onto the military academies and that kind of stuff. So lieutenant colonel. And they're the ones who run the meetings the cats so the hierarchy of the squadron is the senior members are there to advise the cadet leadership and get qadri runs the meeting similar to the way it works at the military academies in the promotions within the cadet ranks guessing. That's not just based on a you've been here a year so we're going to promote you. Its performance and everything has earned those cadets that you're about to see every ribbon they have the rank everything about it. They earned it. You're talking about leadership and those kinds of things and what the takeaway is after having been in. Cap that's a big part of it. Sure so how much time can a civil air patrol cadet expect to spend whether its weekly monthly. Is it a huge commitment or can you do it kinda casually how much time. That's actually probably a better question. For the cadets but a meeting generally is once week it generally lasts two two and a half hours depending on the squadron and depending on what's going on but there's always something else so if the squadron is really focused on emergency services the senior squadrons generally exercise one weekend every other month or every month they come out with us and they act do the emergency services exercise if they are a squadron that really concentrates on drill and drill competition and that sort of thing then they'll have additional time on the weekends and stuff like that where they practiced their drill and practice their flag folding skills and the drill competitions are phenomenal because they get american history in there they learn how to fold the flag they learn how to take care of the flag. They learn about really how to get their uniforms spot on been. There's a physical fitness aspect to it where they have to run a mile and a certain amount of time in set ups push ups that whole thing and that's on the drill side and it builds camaraderie. Because they're all trying to do it. And luckily here in san diego squadron. An forty-seven that used to be stationed at a camp. Pendleton is now in. Oceanside has been the wing drill champion and has gone onto national drill just in the last few years and obviously kobe is. We can't really do drill very well on zoom so that's the kind of things that they can expect. How many squadrons are let's say in california and i don't know if that's a good proxy for other states but if a young person lives in a big city is fairly certain that there's going to be a squadron and if you live there shade be there's fourteen hundred squadrons across the united states. One thing about squadrons. I wanna point out is that there's actually three kinds of squadrons so there is a senior squadron which is basically all singers or there's not a cadet component. There's a composite squadron which has a senior component and comply and then a cadet squadron which is basically all cadets with senior leadership so the senior squadrons which is basically where. I've been mind whole save a career that's more. Es flying organization. Okay and then. We support the cadets through and other things a lot of times it has to do with what you know location and that sort of thing you know. We have seventy eight squadrons. Seven yay eighty two total units when we count subdivisions of the wing in california wing. We have seventy two single engine aircraft three gliders unfortunately no balloons in the state of california. The new mexico wing has a berlin currently as of last friday. We have a total membership of three thousand forty seven seventeen hundred seventy of those or senior members and twelve hundred and seventy seven or cadets nationally we have just under fifty four thousand members thirty two thousand our senior members and twenty thousand are just over. Twenty thousand arquette's nationwide and this isn't unique to the united states. Aren't there comparable organizations and other countries. Yes there's the air cadets. In great britain matter of fact one of our squadrons here locally got on a zoom call this past summer with the air cadets in england and with the time zones and everything it was quite a logistical feat. Sure but the air cadets in england were rather astonished with the amount of things that we're able to do in the united states versus what they do drill. They have the association with the band which we don't have they do all those things but they don't have the close relationship. Where the cadets get to go aboard air force bases and things like that and sometimes during a special cadet activities they get c. Seventeen rides and rides in ceo forty-sevens and and h sixties and things like that canada and australia. No that's correct air conditioning. Good what does the future hold for the civil air patrol more of the same or is there any word of maybe newer different airplanes or more funding or maybe less funding. God forbid well. that's not the case. Where a pretty good deal right now. We're always trying to find a better way to serve. And we've been doing a lot of that here in california wing. We've gotten better. I shouldn't say better but a different close relationship with their national guard and some of the efforts that they're dying there's also cal fire Firefighting aspects now that we fight fires but we go in and sure survey after we the transferred radios at one point. We transferred search dogs with not allow. Thanks so finding the best way to server the equipment that we have by the way. I should point out as i think. We're down to five round. Dial one eighty. Two's everything else that we have our g one thousand. We have turbo till sexism one eighty. Two's they're very well maintained right up to the minute quality and technology aircraft so there is that aspect as well and we're flying we have flight flare we fly Thank hold waldo which allows us to do a two or three dimensional image depiction over the area that with lie which you can say the obvious uses for that looking for better ways to serve always. The sar businesses declined dramatically. Thank god due to technology So but we still trying to that because there will be the diamond. We have to go do that so well so far this year. Civil air patrol has saved sixty lives in two thousand and twenty one and that his mostly win response to our cell phone forensics team and our radar forensics team which is using software that civil patrol members have developed to locate the last ping on. Somebody's cell phone. This was a story from a few years ago at a family. Went off roading in the snow near reno and Busted and axle on their suburban. When they're out going around. And they were reported overdue by their family and the cell phone forensics team located their last ping on their cellphone coordinated that the nevada wing launched aircraft found them in their suburban and the sheriff's department came in flew in and rescued them. And that's exactly the kind of thing that we want to do..
"civil air patrol" Discussed on The Fighter Pilot Podcast
"Are taking the majority okay. We have dedicated. Her gra for that to one thing regarding could at horizon this being a pathway one of my experiences in the cadet that i'm gonna talk about is exceptional so there is that okay. So he's not he is certainly Above and beyond. But i was fortunate enough to give him a couple of his overrides and i gave his last hour right and he shows up to the over by flying. Seventy two to our field. Thirty be okay. He did just fine. He is now. I think this week.
"civil air patrol" Discussed on The Fighter Pilot Podcast
"And happened quite a bit okay but getting back to as on ground zero the famous shot of the two holes in the ground the next day so that was taken by civil air patrol aircraft of new york new york wing delight in those days doing providing liaison services and patrol services. Like tater said everybody else's grounded so we could fly when the restive aviation was on the ground now described for me though. Who's doing the so. It's not just folks like our generation right. I mean we've got what senior members and cadets. What role are the cadets plane and all this oh cadets also participated as cookie said earlier in ground teams and that sort of thing they also help us with lt search ground team again. They'll participate in any search efforts airborne another thing regarding who we are and how we are is probably the best example or comparison would be like a local volunteer fire department. Okay so we're all doing other things in our lives. We have our jobs or families and so on. We're not dedicated. Military folks were dedicated. Mercy serves folks so everything we do is outside of our regular jobs but that same dedication the same motivation and we have to your skill set up to the level. We can do that also beginning back to your question about the cadets when we do a search and rescue exercise or we do in airborne photography exercise. The cadets are fully integrated into the exercise they could be out in the field as ground team for search and rescue exercises quite a few of the exercises. I've worked. The cadets have been mission radio operators as a matter of fact about four months ago we had a airborne intercept mission where the mission radio operator was a cadet so the age thing except for you know legally doesn't really matter. We trained cadets for emergency services to the same level as the senior members and they have to hit the same benchmarks as well. I will say that since. I joined this organization. I've worked a lot with one of the local cadet. Squadrons is their aerospace education officer. These are some of the finest young people i've ever met in my entire life. They are outstanding young women and men and they wanna serve their communities and they like going out in the field and doing it and some of them just like civil patrol for doing drill and for presenting the flag padres games and football games and things like that but others. They're really emergency services focused and they wanna go out they want to do the mission is you'll see later. These are some of the most outstanding young people you've ever met five years ago. There was tickets and to seniors been once. Your tickets led the local. San diego sheriff's search and rescue team up to a crash site on vulcan mountain and was the cadets leading the way to that crash site and this is in Horrible conditions sleet rain. Win the whole bit and did an absolutely fantastic job. We have a kind of joke. Had tongue-in-cheek saying that we said civil air patrol you'll be located by a retired airline pilot and save by seventeen year old. Well i'm hoping that's great development for them at such a precious age where they're not quite a child anymore. But not quite an adult. When i looked at your website goes civil air patrol dot com says the cadet program has developed around five laments leadership character development aerospace education physical fitness and activities. It's not though. Just as i understand now here in talking with you for the last few minutes. It's not just joined the civil air patrol and you're gonna end up with a private pilot's license or something like that in fact you might not get a whole lot of flying but you are getting leadership. The character development. You're getting real world experiences out there and you're leaving folks. Tatum will talk more about this in detail. But every kid gets orientational flights for free paid for by civil air patrol. Okay and where like an air force. Rotc cadet at san diego state one but our skit five. There's a curriculum that's followed and that sort of thing and tater can really speak to. Because that's one of his favorite things to do. It is so they get the five. They're building block type rides. Okay and they also get five glider rights. That's one thing that he did mention and sap could at can end up with glider license at some point if they can apply themselves the five rides First off i mean if you have a passion and aviation and you know the thing you want to do is to share it. And we have this opportunity with cadets and the way it works is bride's fully briefed of course and get in the airplane taxi out takeoff sensor thousand feet above the ground and clear the airport area there find airplane and they continue to fly the airplane throughout the whole ride on our we land swap seats and now the person had endure the handedness of before gives a return favor. It is remarkable. And i can't tell you what a rewarding thing it is to first time some of these gets ever been in an airplane of any kind right and within minutes. They're flying that airplane other grin and some are just remarkably. You know what you learn. What an eight you know and boy. I'll tell you what you can see. Some really tremendous hands in those scarf it or not. I have young people all the time. Reach out to me because of the podcasts. And what can i do. Better prepare myself for military aviation. I say go get some flying experience because you wanna know if your brain can handle if your stomach can handle it. Also i wanted to learn about the civil air patrol. I remember knowing about it when i was younger. I don't remember why i didn't get involved. Maybe there wasn't a squadron nearby but at any rate this sounds like an opportunity for folks to get roughly five hours. He said and then glider right in addition to that. We now have a new flight training program for cadets and they are actually going all the way through. Private pilots have one seventy. Two's that were training in. There's one ed gillespie field right now. Flying cadets there were learning how getting their license right now. Great thank seventy six cadets at this point that yes seventy six cadets the seventy six hundred private pilots license nationwide the other day. I'm you'll be speaking to a cadet. That's in the wings program and learn all about that from her experience and how she was selected and so not every cadet qualifies for the cadet wings program. But this is the level of dedication that civil air patrol has for the training of future pilots. Martha king is on our board of governors. And if you don't know who martha aquinas. She's local san diego small business person. Who puts out the aviation videos that teaches private pilot ground school instrument ground school. She's a fantastic aviator theatre in her own right. She holds every certificate you can hold as an aviator and she has been recognized by cap as this person. We need to have on our team as we train the future of aviation and so just a a little nod to john and martha king but martha king being on the board of governors of cap. Matter of fact she's taken that on and her article and flying magazine. She's written many articles now about the role of civil air patrol and training cadets and that thank but getting back to the kid at you know they get a great basis at their cadet squadrons about arunachal knowledge. And that sort of thing. We nurture that by doing the first five rides. You know where we get them. Hooked you know with the first five free rides and then now the cadet wings program which is sponsored by the united states air force similar to the wings program through air force. Rotc where they pick. Certain cadets go through the training program the biggest differences the air force program fixed. Base operators are doing the training the cut wings program our in house instructors and our in house aircraft.
"civil air patrol" Discussed on The Fighter Pilot Podcast
"Previously on your episode you come in and you get taught how to fly to fight how to deal with all the different things you need to do. And that's why i'm always harping on how i think. Fighter pilots and military aviators. General are every bit as professional as all the other occupations people talk about doctors and lawyers and such and so it is very busy and you learn a lot and you're learning is never over every mission you go out and you come back. And you debrief it and so yeah freeing people learn how to do it and when you come back from a mission you say hey you know. I did this maneuver. Maybe i should have done that one. So that's what makes you even better the next day and and you hope that you can ultimately when the balloon goes up as the expression goes. Beat your opponent all right. Well that will do it for listener questions for this week. Now let's move onto the main event now weighing. You had a chance to listen to this interview in advance and we know that you have some cap experience so we want to bring you in to help out with this episode. Any thoughts big picture wise before we get to the interview. Civil air patrol was one of the and the experiences air was life changing for me absolutely i was a cadet and have some experience with both catering. Cookie i joined squadron eighty seven for a very short time while i was trying to figure out what my plans were where i was gonna live and whatnot back about four years ago so it was super fun to hear them both on. I stay in touch with tater fairly regularly over social media. So great guys. It's a fantastic watered. And it's an awesome organization. I would not be worrying today. Any of the success. I've had without severe patrol. So how's that for right out of the barrel ready to go. That's as good preview. I think as we can get. Why don't we let catering cookie take it away. On the civil air patrol. Wouldn't it be great if there was an organization that as an exhilarating to the united states air force search for and found lost citizens provided comfort in times of disaster worked to keep the homeland safe and educated and inspired tens of thousands of young people to a life of service. Well there is is called the civil air patrol and we're gonna learn all about it today. Joining me here in studio is major roy night california wing of the civil air patrol. How you doing taylor doing good. Glad to be here gentle excellent well. I'm glad to have you but you're not alone. We all sat first lieutenant jerry camp. He is the california wing public affairs. Officer you don't cook in doing great. Thanks for abbas excellent. Well you are welcome. And i know we're all excited because i think we've had each other's information for what over a year and of course cove it happened but We had a change in the schedule with the top gun. Maverick movie getting sled so we were looking for content. And you guys were ready so here we are. We're happy to be here with a great opportunity. Well i'm also glad to be kidding in a studio again for the last year we've been recording remotely but the world is trying to reopen and people are getting their vaccination so here we are so now tater the drill. You said you listen to the show. I do indeed In fact. I just have one episode. Left listen listen to an saving it for a special time. That's lancaster and it's gonna be very interesting to sometime in the future to listen to myself. Yes so that's don't be surprised if you don't like the sound of your own. That is very common. So thank you for that now. I'm not exactly sure when this will air but hopefully if we are in may then. The lancaster wasn't that long ago. But at any rate since you've listened you know the drill. We need to get to know you. So where's tater from. Where'd you go to school. What have you done up until now. Well i'm a military brat so when you ask military brat where you're from that is a pretty big question My father was a fighter pilot. Okay so therefore. I was inaugurated early. I wanted to fly. Unfortunately my father was lost in southeast asia and mega back but that did not in any way. Change my direction. As far as wanting five but like many things in life you get at one direction in the billiard ball gets off in another direction. I didn't get to go and serve in the military as i wanted to start a corporate career into that whole thing but fine was my thing so i did the civilian route one fifty one fifty. Two's piper tomahawks Started got into civil air patrol squadron and then from that point on. It's been just a wonderful ride. I'm closing in on three thousand hours. Most of it has been civil air patrol flying a lot of that at least two thousand of it has been search in the mountains either as a pilot or as an observer i have four distress fines. Which is rare thing. Nowadays that means an actual crashed aircraft. That is located that my was part of the crew that located and of just really enjoyed this ep ride. Well that's good. I'm glad to hear that. I don't know if it's too sensitive for me to ask allowed to are willing. I should say to expand on your father all hostile action or yes. My father discouraged her pilot when you did the same. George merritt on sky raider that was my father squadron Six hundred second fighter squadron flying out of udorn shutdown may nineteenth nineteen sixty seven missing in action until all were declared a ceased and seventy four. He was recovered about a year and a half ago and brought home. So that was obviously pretty big deal and by the outstanding people at the department of bmi counting agency active duty and dod personnel. Who go into those places and find our missing heroes and bring him home and Can't say enough about them. Well that could a whole separate show so we have to keep in touch taylor and circle back to that one all right. Well thank you. And god bless your family and everyone who's been affected by that and of course we're all the benefactors of his sacrifice cookie. How about you where are you from. What have you done and what are you doing now. I'm the oddity of oddities. I am eight of san diegan. Everybody else's from somewhere else. That moves here. But i was born and raised here also military brat on the son of master chief petty officer. Who when i was six years old. Was the air gunner on. The us has constellation and put my rear end in the friend of an f. Four phantom and i looked around. And i said this is where i wanna live so went through a school here. In san diego got a bachelor of science degree in aeronautical operations with an emphasis and flight operations from san jose state. And a lot like tater. This little movie called top gun came out. Graduated nineteen eighty-seven it diminished to complete my navy program that i was entering college. Our program officers. Congratulations shell them. In your all civilians go have a nice life. and so i- pivoted. And i did a twenty five year career in law enforcement with state of california One of the three letter agencies and had a very nice career but anybody who you know that works with me will know that aviation was very high on the list. There were flying magazines all over my cubicle and never got away from that is part of my law enforcement. Career went to a coastguard. Orientation anteater was sitting there with about four other people and saw this watch which is a citizen aviator eco-drive and he said you're a pilot. And i said yes i am and he said you need to come fly with us. So i joined squadron eighty-seven in fallbrook almost six years ago. Well all of a sudden you're having stop ever since. I'm a low time overall pilot of got a little over two hundred hours pic. I have one hundred fifty. Some odd hours is air crimen either in the right seat as emission observer in the backseat as emission scanner. And i have one non distress find as a mission observer which means We found a lt that was going off in a hangar at fringe valley airport. And that sums up cookie and we'll get to the call signs leader. Well gosh there's so much here already. We could unpack. But let's go back to the very beginning. Now as i understand the civil air patrol founded its roots will back what in the beginning of world war two type era so right before the beginning to tell us a little bit that led up to what we know of today as civil air patrol. And i think we're what.
Pilot Dead After Small Plane Crash in Colorado
"An investigation underway after a pilot was killed in a small plane crash. This happened outside of Decker's, like Taplin with the Jeffco Sheriff's office says the plane went down Saturday night. Setting off an emergency alert. The Civil Air Patrol work throughout the night and into Sunday morning to locate the plane and then Alpine rescue team has played a huge part in getting cruise up to the plane. They're the ones working on getting the body out of the plane and down to earth corner will meet them at officials say they know where the pilot took off from, but they weren't sure where his V didn't file a flight plans. They don't know where he was heading. The FAA and the NTSB are investigating the
Pilot dead after small plane crash in Colorado
"Of Decker's killed the pilot Saturday like Tablet with Jeffco Sheriff's office is a plane went down Saturday night, setting off an emergency alert. The Civil Air Patrol work throughout the night and Sunday morning to find the plane and then Alpine rescue team has played a huge part in getting cruise up to the plane. They're the ones working on getting the body out of the plane and down to where the corner will meet them at Say the pilot was an adult male. The FAA and NTSB are investigating the crash. It was a hot one in Denver
"civil air patrol" Discussed on New Jersey 101.5
"The social lives. This e don't know. Next week, Meg try next week. He's really about he's really Internet. George is in eastern Pennsylvania and New Jersey. One on 1.58. George, hardline Heister. Hey, doing OK? Oh, I'm good, gentlemen. You have Rather ironic. I hunt familiar with the aircraft that Buddy Holly died on. I was in the Civil Air Patrol on a sock at which was a drilling. Montgomery available Understanding Guard duty. A Beechcraft bonanza came in. With a student aboard and the pilot and the plane's wing a across when that pulled it off the landing pad a landing zone in it clipped the wing and flipped over. Calm down, killing the instructor Long like years later, when I was Googling something about Buddy Holly's passing. I was fishing Keepinit are really large plane, but it wasn't it was that was also a Beechcraft an answer with a kind of radical. See Carol, a very tiny little There was no airliner was a very small It was small plane. 21 year old Roger Peterson was the pilot. He wanted to fly it because he was a fan of Buddy Holly playing was up in the air for about four. Minutes before it went down in the snow. Amazing beach happen. Answer with the V technological believer wrapped and sent on a plane. Has that cleanup. Montgomery go. Wait, wait, George. I got to get the news with you. Gotta move on seventies today. I'm very sick. Okay, Here we go. Your everlasting summer you can see it fading fast. Your everlasting from there. You can see I got this one on one battles. Majority tickets a long time. And now justice stoolie Dan, reeling in the years.
Interview With Fighter Pilot Rochelle Kimbrell
"I'm joined today by rochelle kimbrell. She was the first african american female fighter pilot in the united states. air force. well that's really cool rachelle. Thank you for being with us today. Absolutely thanks for having me your welcome so now tell us tell us how you cut your start in aviation started aviation. I took my first lesson when i was fourteen years old. I was just very fascinated on by flight. Invite space when i was in kindergarten. I wanted to be an astronaut. And i wrote a way to nasa. Find out what it takes to be an astronaut the on my double lines crayon paper and they sent me back a huge pack. That stayed in my room for most of my most of my life. the just kind of walked us through how you become an astronaut about fourth grade. I realized as i was still learning about it. Because i was fascinated that All astronauts don't get to go to space and that was a little bit Concerning to me. Because i wanted to do something where i would actually get to do it every day so i kind of lucked into the next best thing would be flying jets so reverse engineered my life to figure out how i could do that. So i got my first lesson at fourteen and And had my license. By the time. I was seventeen and just absolutely fell in love with the idea at first but then the actual acts of. Why did you pursue getting and all that before you went to the economy. I did not so being a little bit funds limited. You know. I did what i could so it took me a while to get through the steps. We kind of took lessons when there was money to take lessons. joined the civil air patrol with intentions of Being part of the flying program there that they efforts but ended up kind of falling into the cadet activity side and doing a lot more fit activities than actually fine. And then pursuing my pilot's license on on land. And i assume you seen gliders at dakota me also i did a little bit I didn't do the whole program. I did basically what we were required to do. And then i was focusing a little bit more on the hill. And what What was your major. I ended up with a general engineering. Major okay. I started with but that's where i ended up. Well you started out with. What astro engineering mechanic. Oh okay so now. Did you go right to the training or did you have to do something else before they had a slot for you right. The pilot training Basically right after sixty days of leave in august of ninety eight. I started pilot training and you went to laughlin right i did. I went to doria by the see. So how did you do in pilot training. you know. that's a funny question. Most people know their rankings and how they came out. I'm not really sure was never told. I don't know obviously i did well up to get next to keep right but for some reason you know now as i'm older people number two number why i have no idea really so now. This timeframe was nike and ninety eight time frame. So there are a lot of women in piloting. At that time i went. Say a lot but we have larger class of women but they all went t- ones and my helicopters And i can't even tell you. I'd have to look at the picture but i think that there were six or seven of us and our thoughts and you selected the efficiency of sixteen. And where did you go to to rt for sixteen force based on. Okay and what was your first assignment i went to miss. Our japan gets chilly in the winter. There was awesome. Great snow greek snowboarding in place to station
"civil air patrol" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"Sure they're actually her Xenia we had to believe that in the face of exhaustion and cynicism and division are got back not for a live on campus I am six forty more now with the release from people who report the helicopter crash that killed Kobe Bryant his young daughter and seven others one caller says he heard a boom then a dead sound this guy pointed out that if the pilot didn't have night vision he had to have had I. F. R. or instrument flight rules that were my head we can call out and then I heard a pop and it immediately stop another caller said he was hiking the trail in Calabasas last Sunday morning when he said he saw a helicopter crash into the side of a mountain weather reports indicated heavy fog that morning and the NTSB says it will determine if that was a factor in the cause of the crash Steve Gregory king a fine is the civil air patrol squadron at March air reserve base in riverside called up a schedule meeting because of the nearly two hundred people quarantined at the base over concerns about the new coronavirus machine a chain China he's the commander of the civil air patrol squadron says there's no threat to members help they're just being overly cautious sentences because public health department says two people from another country county who been diagnosed with the new coronavirus are in the hospital in San Francisco officials say the infected people do not pose and an elevated risk to the public therefore known cases of the new crown buyers the bay area to in Santa Clara county two in San Benito county the number of cases in the US up to eleven and I was Democratic Party been hearing him talk about says talkers results have been delayed because of quality checks some of the earliest results though the Iowa caucuses have come in from thousands of miles away in Glasgow Scotland Bernie Sanders when the most support in a small satellite caucus for Iowans living abroad Elizabeth one ended up with six and of the nineteen supporters bush does she got three what's going on the freeways angel it's a slow drive.
Civil Air Patrol Squadron Meeting Canceled At March Air Base Out Of ‘An Abundance Of Caution’
"Is the civil air patrol squadron at March air reserve base in riverside called up a schedule meeting because of the nearly two hundred people quarantined at the base over concerns about the new coronavirus machine a chain China he's the commander of the civil air patrol squadron says there's no threat to members help they're just being overly cautious sentences because public health department says two people from another country county who been diagnosed with the new coronavirus are in the hospital in San Francisco officials say the infected people do not pose and an elevated risk to the public therefore known cases of the new crown buyers the bay area to in Santa Clara county two in San Benito county the number of cases in the US up to
An interview with 16-year-old author Solomon Schmidt
"Today we have a guest on the podcast by the name of Solomon Schmidt. Now Solomon then Schmidt is still a kid but he's an author he's sixteen years old he's already written five books and all the books are history books he also plays piano and is a member of the Civil Air Patrol. Pretty good track. He's got going right now. Solomon Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me on. It's very good to meet you you too so all of the books that you've written our history books. What made you start to get interested in history? Well my mom has been reading to me from the time. I was really young For as long as I can remember she was putting books in my hands. And she's the one who taught me how to read and write and I guess there never really was a time when I wasn't has an interest in history I can remember specific children's book. It was an overview the statue liberty and how it was built was brought to America. There was a little picture book for eight eight nine year olds. But that's that's the first American history book I can clearly remember. I remember from that. I was really interesting. That titanic for the longest time so. We're not a lot of books on that. I watched the nineteen fifties sixties version of it. And like you said I just can't remember a time when I wasn't interested in history and it it spiraled into getting interested in specific topics like World War Two which I was on for the longest time Winston Churchill all the battles and generals and civil war American Revolution Revolution usually military history so what fascinates me the most. But I can't remember a time when I haven't been learning about it and intrigued to learn more on read more and study more. Know if I've heard correctly is there some connection to your family in the military and specifically Pearl Harbor. Yeah my great grandma who turned ninety eight just a couple of weeks ago he was actually at Pearl. Harbor was attacked. Is One of only a few survivors left he was. He was removed from the main area of attack. He was getting his ammunition. Inspected in officer ran into the tent. And he said grab your guns. We're at war. And he said by the time everything was got everything was pulled out and gun ready for the attack to to fight against the Japanese planes. The first wave was gone and around. He he told me that he didn't have a big part in actually fighting against the Japanese. But it's it's always something that has stayed with him and he still villas memories of being there and a fighting the Japanese in the Pacific he drove trucks around. That was his job he i. I'm not sure if he was ever actually in like battles where he shot people but he he served in the war for four years and I really think think that's something that I can look back on and that's a tidy history right there in my own family. You know one of the few people that's actually survivor. Pearl Harbor is my great Grandpa by bombs. GRANDPA and he's he's just a great guy he's He's still plays his harmonica nursing homes. You know he's almost a century old but I I just I love people who have continued to keep the legacy alive by teaching people about history by carrying about our country and knowing knowing that patriotism and a love of country especially when you're serving in the military is is so important and he did have that and he loves America and Pearl Pearl Harbor. I think is something that has always stayed with him. He's usually pretty quiet when I talk about his military service or when I want to ask him about that but Pearl Harbor is something. He opened opened up to me more. I think because it's something that I said He. He wasn't like in the main part of the attack but he was definitely impacted by it. Yet will the military is a giant into organization and the Mount of people that are actually on the frontlines. Fighting is usually very very small much smaller than what people think. But in order to get those troops on the front lines to actually be able to fight there is a massive amount of logistics. What does the logistics means? It means that people need food. The people need fuel. The people need ammunition for their weapons. They need medical supplies. There's all these things that the soldiers that are on the front lines need and so your great-grandfather you said. Greg Great-grandfather for data admit is his name. And he played the role that he played for in serving. His country was to deliver those logistics in the front lines and even though he might not feel or you might think oh he. He wasn't fighting on the front lines. Trust me as a front as a guy that was on the front lines. If you don't have those back back logistics behind you to support you. You're not going to be able to make anything anything happened. So that's why whenever somebody tells me that they served no matter what capacity they served in the military. I always thank them for their service because they were doing what their country needed him into. New -solutely yeah. So you transitioned at some point from reading about history into writing about history. How old were you you when you wrote your first book I started writing it when I was twelve and I had been struggling for a little while to kind of wonder you know? What should I do what? What should my thing be? I started by making a board game called politics power and it was a little makeshift game. Made the book. The board game politic power. I started that I think when I was eleven. That's interesting and I started putting it together just so you know when I was eleven my friends and I were throwing mud at each. Yeah I think you're you're already progressed a little bit further than me. Okay so you make the board game politics power. Yes so I mean it just had it was Kinda like monopoly. It had a board exactly like a go position. And you know you sent to jail you commit a an illegal act in in politics but it had all these pieces and I. I've got everything but of course then it comes down to actually okay. But how do you finish and actually make it a board game so struggling to not to do that and I came down to the basement one day to my dad's workbench and we started talking and he said you know Sama. What do you really love? And I said well history debt and he said well. Why don't she writes history book for Kids Your Age and other time? I think it was eleven when that happened. And I was intrigued by the idea. And we know this man who's written over over a hundred bucks and he gave me a piece of advice. He said well actually told my dad. He said never do a project if somebody else has already done and done it very well focus on. You're just wasting your time so my dad told me okay. I'm glad for you. You should do this but be sure there isn't anything already out there like it so I did my research. I looked around around and couldn't find anything in the format or for the audience targeting about US history. And I knew that's what I wanted to do. And I finished D- I worked on it for several months. Finishing the sections and I can remember one time we run vacation in the Adirondack Mountains in New York. I remember. That's where I wrote the Cuban missile crisis. This is on the way. Remember that but certain things stay in my memory from all different points of writing the books Yeah that's how. US History Bites game to be now how you kind of breezed over the fact that in a few months you finish the book now as you know I've written a bunch of books as well and it's not easy to write a book and I always tell people people the books don't write themselves you actually have to get. You actually have to do the work. What was there any particular thing that you did to to ensure that you got your project done? Well I can remember with. I don't specifically remember with us. History Bites I remember that my goal was because at the time. I didn't think I was going to be writing any other one so my goal was just okay. I just want to read this book so I didn't have a specific time. I think no of course the research process is a completely different process and takes by itself. I think I left myself six months to actually write the thirty sections and I I can remember clear with my last books though With my most recent books I would. I would figure out what day of what month I needed to be done by and I'd figure figure out. How many sections I would need to do in order to achieve that goal and how I would need to break it up and I'd get it done and it really just came to a matter of each day I'd go okay whether I have a headache or not whether I feel like it or not? I have to get this section done today. I have to get this part of research done. I have to read about Gandhi today. And that's what I need to do and kind of like you talk about your books. I went to bed feeling great and I woke up the next morning feeling ready to go onto whatever was next one of the things things that I talk about when it comes to my writing process is I write a thousand words a day when I when I'm writing a book. I read a thousand words every a single day. It takes me about forty five minutes to an hour to get that done and what it does is a couple big benefits to it. We'll number one. You're slowly chipping away at this big giant project. And if you try if you woke up today and you said I'm going to write a hundred thousand words today. That would be very intimidating. And I don't recommend doing that. And if you wake up and you say look I'm GonNa find forty five minutes today. I'm GonNa find an hour and I'm going to do what I'm supposed to do. Which is hammer out these thousand words? What's good about it? That's that's good. You Get don little bits at a time. Which is it's easier you ever heard that expression about eating an elephant? How do you eat an elephant? One limited time. What one bite at a time right one bite at a time? That's all you can do. You can't eat that you can't stop that whole elephant in your mouth. Not that I advise Edna elephants but if you were to have to eat an element elephant you'd want to do a little bit at a time so the thing is that you're taking little bites of your project the other thing that's good about writing every day in my opinion is if I skip three days Of writing when I open back when I opened a computer backup to start writing again. I forgot what the last thing I wrote was. Now I have to go back and spend twenty minutes or thirty minutes or maybe even forty five minutes to an hour reading what I wrote to get myself back up to where I can start writing again. I have to redeploy my brain and that redeployment time takes time. So that's why I always recommend you. You take that and you you do every single day and what's good the reason I'm spending a little bit of time talking about this is that this applies to really anything really anything that you you WanNa get good at. Whether it's you WanNa get good. I play guitar. I know you play piano. You don't want to try and save up for a month worth of practice at piano and say oh well going to do is just one weekend. I'm going to practice eighty nine hours. You know. I don't even know if that's mathematically possible but you don't WanNa do that you will. It's much much better and and it's better for your skill to practice that instrument every single day. If it's a sport you want to get good at. If you want to get good at dribbling a basketball don't just say okay. Well one week before basketball. Ask Ball season. I'm just going to dribble a basketball a lot for for eighteen hours a day. That's not
Those They Left Behind: The Victims of Roy Melanson
"His cabin they stopped at a gas station to put some air in the leaky tire and they had to buy some more beer because they're all out and it continued on their driver car jerked so the two men the shows with that day no surprise turned out to be Chuck Mathews in Roy Melanson so chuck gone out of the car underneath the chassis and so that Iraq had put a hole in the oil pan so michelle offered to give them in a ride in her car when they made it to town got to her car matthews got into the backseat with oak and Melanson wrote up front with Michelle Michelle drove them back to gunnison asmir thieves bonded with Oak Michelle Cherif Melanson yes it was late afternoon they arrived back at the Columbine Bar Matthews was really surprised though because then he overheard Melanson asked Michelle if she could drive him a few more blocks to where he left his truck now he hadn't even mentioned a truck Matthews Matthews didn't think he had a truck I mean if he had a truck why they've been riding around in his old terrible junker were to prove in itself untrustworthy in absolutely breaking down and leaking air and stuff that's terrible so that's a good question where we take in my old junker but he didn't say anything in Melanson told Matthews he'd be back in a while and rode off in the passenger seat of Michelle's car so matthew went into the bar but he was confused and he decided he'd wait for Melanson to come back and maybe he could give him a ride home in his truck but when Melanson and returned by nine pm matthews called a friend to pick him up and he thought that would be the last seat here this whole thing but the next morning Melanson Grove Michelle Wallace's Redman Asta station wagon to the JC penney storing gunnison and he wrote a fraudulent check to purchase a dress shirt and pants Georgia and Megan Wallace Michelle's parents were back in Chicago thinking that everything was Fine Michelle was alive and well and would be back soon they were really happy that she was going to working as a photographer in North Carolina but September second came and went without a call from Michelle and she promised Maggie that she would call her that day so Maggie called the sheriff in Gunnison to report Michelle Missing Ecorse it had only been a couple of days she was an adult so the dispatcher told her not to worry her daughter and probably just decided to camp for another day or two forgot to collar but Maggie knew better she knew Michelle and she insisted that Michelle would never do that so she persisted and she actually got the sheriff's Department to talk to her and to search scofield part so the next one warning the under sheriff went to Michelle's apartment and saw that she had never returned from her trip so they figure that Michelle could have had an accident the rugged country so the undersheriff co the crested Butte Police Department an SM to look for her car they call them back that evening saying there's no sign ever car. The Maggie's calling repeatedly she's just worried sick a massive search was started by the gunnison sheriff the crested butte police department and the Civil Air Patrol rose also many volunteers helping in the search also Michelle's remained gave the police Michelle's hairbrush I glass says to hold his evidence and this would pay off much later not right away because we're in nineteen seventy four technology and advancements in science in a long way to go through certainly did very minimal right right so it was on September six when Chuck Mathews heard about a missing girl on the radio and we heard the description of Michelle in her dog along with her last known whereabouts he knew that she was a young woman that he had met with Melanson on August thirtieth but of course all he knows about Melanson is his first name was Roy so matthews called the sheriff's department and gave them a description of Michelle of her dog and of her Red Mazda wagon the last time he had seen her was outside of the Columbine bar she drove away with a man who the only numerous Roy and this really sounded bad this made the case sound a lot worse were here it should have been less seen with a man she really didn't know right she just met no one knew who roy was or afraid even his real name then the next day ranch called the sheriff's Department to report that he had shot and killed a dog on September fourth in his dog matched oak description he'd get the thanks caller which had a tag with shells name on it and other people called until the sheriff that they'd seen the dog wandering around in the area since August thirty first again bad news because Michelle and oak had been inseparable yes she's missing in her dog is dead so it's really looking like foul play frakes but a fora was contacted after Chuck Matthews told the police that Roy had told him he had been killing coyotes for a sheep rancher in Scholefield Park Spatafora told them that he had employed Roy and he knew his last name it was worry Melanson regarded her name mill food yeah yeah but of course Melanson had left the area he had arrived in Pueblo and Michelle's Mazda on August thirty first and he had spent the night with sally the fourteen year old and got one of her sisters to drive him to where he had parked the Mazda he told her that a friend had left it there for him to us so at this point I really have to question Sally's mother Lucille Burdens judgment here what the Hell's going on it's almost like she's prostituting her daughter you know well he's kind of staying at their house it's very weird and I don't know where the father was I know he was working it didn't ever come home and see what's going on it's really strange disturbing situation that's an understatement for this time though Melanson seemed to be doing much better financially than the last time the Burton girls had seen him he had new clothes new camping equipment and a really nice camera now salad use the camp took a picture of Melanson laying on the couch behind one of her friends yes oh what's this man doing in the House with these teenage girls laying on the couch it's also creepy Dick I just don't understand it we don't have any information or any any reasons why her mother true things the way she do now I mean what I've read about the case there was always just the idea that he was such a smooth talker in so convincing but to me nobody's that convincing that you're going to let him hang around your fourteen year old weird hat royals yeah Melanson didn't stay in Pueblo very long on September eighth in Cedar Falls Iowa when he was there he joined Michelle's camera backpack and sleeping bag than in elk city Iowa he made a guy named Thurman Wilder in a bar and the two started talking while they're told him that he was a heavy equipment raider looking for a job and Melanson told him that he had a friend in Pueblo who owned a construction company and he was sure that his friend would hire wilder I think he was just trying to get a ride there I guess he was always trying to get something from someone he was with the conman are always still have was in his white Cadillac and when they got to Amarillo Texas Melanson duck the Mazda and he ended up writing the rest of the trip with wilder in the Cadillac Hitt told wilder that his car needed repairs and he was taking it to shop and they'd pick it up on the way back then on September twelfth an anonymous caller are reported a suspicious white cadillac that was hanging around a high school and the Cadillac was pulled over and Melanson said that he and Wilder just waiting to pick up Sally Burton at school which is pretty creepy right there your suit is but when Nelson's driver's license was checked the police discovered that he was wanted for rape and Texas so both Melanson and wilder were arrested and wilder gave permission for his car to be searched and the these funds several different items belonging to Michelle Wallace in the Cadillac these things included her car registration her driver's license insurance discard and also some of her camping equipment so there's no explanation that he's going to be able to give for that wouldn't appear to be so melanson was searched police found his unused best ticket from gunnison to Pueblo and found Semis two keys and two point tickets sleeping bag in a backpack then one of the offices remembered the beyond the lookout for a red monster station wagon on by Michelle while so let's solve this crime didn't we well no not really into which is a long way to go with that the Pueblo detectives are pretty sharp they contacted gunnison and learned about the search for Michelle the Amarillo police found Michelle's car it was abandoned one block from a bar recalled the hard hat lounge now the car was searched but nothing was found that would have indicated foul play so nothing they give us evidence and nothing that would help them and find Michelle of course they interviewed Melanson and he finally did admit to spending time with the Burton's and having a relationship with the teenage Sally but he denied that he'd ever had sex with sally you know they would just hanging around 'cause they had so much in common together you're just good friends sure I'll grown men have fourteen year old girl says their friends interviewed sally she told him that she hadn't Melanson in July your family's cabin and she said that she did actually have sex with him so restores here I'm thinking I'm going to bully sally absolutely he had traumatized her quite a bit and so isn't the statutory rape yes should be but you know you're gonNA find here that he really gets away with a lot for long time it's really frustrating after extensive interviews Melanson insisted on speaking to the FBI and eventually he said that he did remember Eating Michelle he said he had a drink with her in a bar and she had left her dog tied up outside then he said he'd made up an excuse to borrow her car and she had led him so he just taken off in her car and it never seen her again not very believable story no bishop since he had all her things on his position Russian was stopped that anyway we'll we'll take a story so investigators suspected Nelson in Michelle's disappearance so in three other Texas rapes and Texas murder and then the police in Louisiana also wanted to question mallets about a series of murders in their state great so it looks like he's just done a lot of crimes that he's gotten away with Chuck Mathews was brought in and he was able to identify Melanson as the man Michelle's car when he last saw them after that detectives were convinced that they had Michelle's killer but without a body the prosecutor wouldn't charge him with murder so they were kind of step yeah I mean I know this is forty five years ago so things are different because we've done some cases where they've prosecute you didn't prosecuted successfully people with nobody well it certainly can be done but you need a lot of other evidence where it sounds like they got your amount the first thing you know you have to be able to prove the person's dad that's the first obstacle where you have to be able to maybe not prove but beyond a shadow of doubt so did now same thing to me or care so searchers though they continue to look on the ground and from the for Michele Maggie and George Wallace her parents held out hope that Michelle would be found alive of course but a new about Melanson story and they knew it was a lie she wouldn't have loaned her car to a stranger but unfortunately no evidence was found that Michelle had been killed or like I said even that she was dead Maggie she'd never see her daughter again that started to set in and she fell into a really deep depression she was crying every day and people said she just looked totally lost six weeks after Michelle had disappeared the Colorado detectives asks for her dental
"civil air patrol" Discussed on Stuff You Should Know
"Okay? When there were people in this country that loved their flying civilians, and they saw the beginning of the war in the late nineteen thirties, when Europe European fascist basically said nine no more civilian flying. It's all shutdown. Yeah. And so the aviators over here civilian aviators were like whoa. That's not cool. We like flying planes. Maybe we should get organized. And see if we can actually advance you to the military as civilians, because that was back when all Americans wanted to pitch in a little bit to help out the war effort. Right. Is there is the one guy in particular guy named Gill Robb Wilson, but he was not the only one there's another dude named Milton night. And both are credited with founding, basically civilian air force auxiliary program, right to say, hey military, we're not. Military. It's cool. But there's other stuff we can do to help you guys out. And let's also not forget that if we can use our collective clout to popularize flying in aviation, and just get more Americans interested in showing that, that, hey, you can actually learn to fly come hang out with us, we'll show you how will will be generating a pool of pre trained pilots who can transfer over to the military. If the US ends up going into World War, Two, yeah. Almost like a reserve unit. Even though it is not that now it's an auxiliary unit, which means it, it's, it's an auxiliary. It's on the side. It's in addition to it's not it's not like a reserve unit that can be called up to active duty military like the reserves. It's a civilian volunteer force. Right. So Gill Robb Wilson was working on this and kind of concurrently. There were some some. State based aviation groups for civilian civil civil defense units that were kinda cropping up here and they on the east coast. And so he kind of saw the writing on the wall and wanted to make things official. So he developed a plan in nineteen forty one for the civil air patrol. Got support very importantly, got support from gentlemen name Fierro LaGuardia. You don't put any mustard on LaGuardia now. It's just a credit airport. Okay. Actually, I like LaGuardia. It's six coming along, but yeah, still kinda crazy it. It's fine. None of the New York airports are great. Let's have you. Have you ever seen the, the pictures of the abandoned, TWA, terminal at LaGuardia Ohno from like the jet age the sixties? Awesome. It's amazing. It's like a time capsule frozen in time. And I think they converted it into a hotel recently. But, like go somebody did a really good photo spread like back in two thousand twelve or whatever just look up TWA terminal. Maybe it's JFK and not Liguori. I think it is JFK either way it's still worth checking out. I'll check it out. Okay. So laguardia. He was the director of the office of civilian defense at the time. He of course airport was named after him. He was mayor of New York City at one point, he was an aviator World, War One. So it was really a big deal to get him. On board. And they designed their little logo, which is a blue circle with a propeller three propellers in a white triangle. Yeah. And initially they were handled by because this was pre air force before the, the air force was officially established after World War, Two it was part of the US army air corps. Right. Was the US army air corps, which I think we, we made that distinction in the Teske airman. Yes. So remember correctly. So everyone kind of gets on board and LA Guardia signs the civil air corps, as it was known originally into existence on December first nineteen forty one and as you will note that date, very relevant because just six days later is when the attack on Pearl Harbor happened, and all of a sudden, we could use this help. Yeah. And I mean remember this is like a surprise attack by the Japanese on Pearl Harbor. So it was pretty prescient of Gill Robb Wilson in Fiorello LaGuardia to, to get this thing organized. And. Together because. Yeah. Within a week. There were like, okay we probably can use you guys. Yeah. The problem is that the air corps initially was, like, what are we going to do with these like these civilians? You know, super gung ho civilians, too. I imagine. Right, exactly. Which, which is like even worse to have to deal with in, like, as regular old civilians who don't know what they're doing. Yeah. In some cases, it turned out that it was actually the civil air patrol was really helpful because one of the really overlooked things about World War, Two is that German, u boats. You know, like a variation of a submarine, but they just couldn't stay under quite as long. Yeah. They did little dives, they wreaked absolute havoc on the United States coasts, during World War. Two basically within a month of Pearl Harbor four to six weeks after Pearl Harbor the first US freighter the city of. Atlanta was sunk by a u boat off the coast of North Carolina. And that was the first of I think three hundred and ninety seven ships that were either sunk or damaged by u boats in six months off the coast of America. Yes. So this point, the civil air patrol has one wing is what they call it per state have no idea how many states there were, I think it was forty eight just kidding in each one of those wings was divided into squadrons, and they were operating out of civilian airports, mostly, but then in nineteen forty two they were they started opening up some dedicated civil air patrol bases in certain states around the country. So all of a sudden, there are in nineteen forty to forty thousand people enrolled in the civil patrol. Yeah. And these German, u boats are doing damage off the coast, and all of a sudden they were like, well, listen. We weren't sure quite what to do with you guys. You've been. Helping us out. You've been delivering some things and even some personnel at times, and munitions. But we think what you know, we don't have the resources in our, what will soon be called the air force to just patrol up and down the east coast all the time. So that's where you're gonna really be valuable to us. And that was really the first big kind of important use of the civil air patrol in World War. Two. Yeah. And it was affected too. Because with you boats part of the doctrine of, of u boat warfare. Subcommander nece. Was that if you saw a plane overhead you, dove sure to get away from that plane because they were very vulnerable from an aerial attack. So just seeing a civil air patrol plane overhead meant that the sub had to break off from pursuit of whatever tanker, freighter troop transport. It was about to sink. Yeah. And dive in innovate that plane just even unarmed civil air patrol plane because they didn't know they're unarmed at the time. I don't exactly. So this actually started working out pretty well, but there's one incident in particular off the coast of a right at Cape Canaveral from what I understand you boat got caught on a sandbar man, and was just laying there exposed trying to get free for about thirty minutes in a civil air patrol plane was circling. It had spotted it had called in for reinforcements. I think for an aerial strike from the air corps. For the sitting duck of U-boat and before the airstrike. Could get there to blow the u boat up. It got it self free and made it to scapegoat away. And this was enough of the frustrating enough event magin that pilot was, I want a bomb so bad. Well in very short order, the air, the air corps commander, hap- was his name. Henry hap Arnold hap. Arnold say give them those bombs in the civil air patrol, not in any way, a military organization. A civilian auxiliary group was given depth charges embalm to drop on u boats from that point on for the rest of World War, Two, he s so here's the deal with that. They, they had to bomb from very, very high up. They had to use improvised bomb sites because, you know this, they didn't just have this stuff lying around, and they needed this stuff for the real. I was about say the real planes for the military, right? So they weren't like, here's the best bomb. Mm sites. We have. So there's really no like. I think the civil air patrol probably likes to claim that they actually bombed u boats, but there, aren't any official on record bombings. That were carried out by civil air patrol that, like sank, u boats. Right. You talked to Germany was like, nah, never happened didn't affect us. They said nine civil air patrol is like no. It's more like ya. Right. So the, it is indisputable particular one sub that some civil air patrol guys dropped depth charges over in New Jersey. And they said a geyser of oil and water erupted from the water, which would indicate that they had sunk this, this U-boat like you're saying the Germans don't have any records, anything like that. Okay. So no. Or they probably didn't at the very least, though. They did harass the German, u boats. Sure. And whether it was directly because of civil air patrol patrols over the coastline. Or not by July about six months after the first attack German, u boats, like pulled off of American coastal waters, and stop the tacking. So it probably wasn't entirely coincidence. It probably wasn't entirely because of the civil air patrol, but it they almost certainly played a prominent role in Germany's discontinuation of their sub attacks in American waters. Yes. Oh, here's what we'll do. We'll do a stat cliffhanger. Okay. 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"civil air patrol" Discussed on Airplane Geeks Podcast
"Of up to seventy kilowatts which is according to this article ninety four horsepower or the equivalent of ninety four horsepower. And this is the e flyer to so the the operational costs of these things are are lower the plane itself costs about thirty five or three hundred and fifty thousand per plane, but it's the operating costs that are spectacular in comparison. They say that it costs a hundred ten dollars an hour to operate a conventional training plane, but these all electric planes only cost twenty dollars an hour. So that's a more than a or less than one fifth the cost pretty dramatic. You know, there's one aspect that. I had never thought of somebody. Brought it up to me. Over the weekend normally in an aircraft as you fly long you consume fuel and the aircraft later in lighter and lighter, which makes it more efficient here as you consume electronics ity her plane doesn't get lighter in let your so that's that's one negative in the equation for electrics. But I'm excited. I think they're going to be awesome for the training market in particular. Because a lot of our flights short and people are cost sensitive. So that's gonna help right. We heard from Mark Newton. And he sent a this is a YouTube video. I was just I think recently released. Yes, it came out from Mark Felton productions published just a few weeks ago, April fifth twenty nineteen. This is RAF. Hunter pilot goes rogue over London nineteen sixty eight and we we have this RIF pilot in Davie, he flew his hawker hunter jet. I think. He was trying to make a political statement or something. Yeah. Actually, the time. It was a major controversy because it was the fiftieth anniversary of the Royal airforce and parliament Al didn't want anything to do to celebrate it. So he went on a private air toward a celebrate the Oreo fiftieth and one of the adventures he did was he flew a hawker hundred under tower bridge now for all of those Americans. And you know, who you are who think that bridge is London bridge. That's not that is tower bridge. London bridge is further upstream and is much less exciting. And if you really wanna look at it, you should go see the brick by brick restoration in Arizona. But but yes, he he.
"civil air patrol" Discussed on Airplane Geeks Podcast
"But usually when I say that I say, it's not a flying club res-. You certainly have to do your part. But but the flying is good, and it can be actually quite challenging. So if if someone who's a pilot or looking to build some hours in maybe, you know, personally provide this kind of service to others to the community and so forth. What type of a time commitment does it usually entail? So that's kind of up to the member. If you wanted to come in and just fly takes a couple of months to get used to air force flying or air force style flying flying somebody else's airplane. And and you're playing it for various Pacific purpose. So it takes a couple of months just to get used to the flying and sort of in return, you may take on a role in your local community organization or community. What we call a unit or a squadron where you may be an operations officer communications officer or go out and work with the cadets and train them on on those things that we were just talking about aerospace education. So really it's anywhere from a couple of hours a week to you know, I think at my high point as as a unit commander, I was probably working ten fifteen hours a week on civil patrol. So I'm onto you know, you give a little. A bit of your your bio a little bit of personal history. You started off in the civil air patrol. And you're now just a recently retired senior Master Sergeant from special operations command. Tell us how that happened in where you went and how that how that all took place. Well, yeah. So the civil air patrol sort of gave me that. That military enthusiasm. We're going to call it that I'm matched up with a family of aviation. My dad was an airline pilot, my brothers and airline pilot. So to came together, I said, well, I'll join the airforce I was a terrible student in high school was not ready to go to college. So I enlisted, and I said that this is a terrible idea for anybody. That's gonna go talk to recruiter. But I just said I want anything that's flying. Never tell a recruiter just put me in whatever you want. But I went right into the air force and became in it and enlisted aircrew what's kind of now, we don't call them about anymore, but it's kind of sensor operator. And and I've had a couple of different jobs in the air force. And man, I'm doing a lot of difference to today, but here, but enlisted aircrew is such an important part of the air force in when you going going back to our our story about the tenant. Colonel cole. The Doolittle raider that passed before him was staff sergeant Richard Thatcher who passed in two thousand six and I believe he was a gunner. So even on those those Doolittle raiders, you had a pilot navigator. But then the rest of the airplane was enlisted you had an engineer gunner radio operator waist, gunner tailgunner all those fields are enlisted aircrew career field. So I kind of navigated the majority of those through my twenty one years a Mondo. That's what I was going to. I got until I got my medical one thirty one thirty loadmaster wasn't going to be officer. But I was going to be flying. You know what? And the rivalry shall always continue as to which end of the of the airplane is the business, right? So. You know? And I think that's something our listeners would like to maybe no more about because when you think about going into the service that you think about aviation, you automatically think officer and a pilot..
"civil air patrol" Discussed on Airplane Geeks Podcast
"Of course, Paul just passed away earlier this year, I believe and he was able to spend a lot of money on his program here after he passed away they scaled back a little bit in terms of their plans. But right now, it looks like they're gonna use this monstrous airplane too. Lift rockets up to perhaps about thirty five thousand feet and launched them from there and just to come to describe this looks like it's a twin fuselage with two fuselages separated by considerable distance a fairly unique airport to all the taxi are gonna be extremely large. They've got a custom hanger for this which is cut out because not only is the wing really long, but you have twin tails is well, which took up fairly high. And then it's got a total of six seven, forty seven engines three on each side outside of the two fuselage's. So it made its first flight in the past week. There's video vailable of that. And it looks pretty spectacular. I guess it holds the promise of lowering the cost of launching satellites in the space. You know, what I love about this aircraft? The most is that when you look at it as you can't haven't seen a picture of it yet. You just imagine an aunt and off to twenty-five that mated with a f eighty two twin Mustang. And you get this aircraft. Yeah. They flew this for two and a half hours over the Mojave desert up to seventeen thousand feet altitude for this for this test hundred eighty nine miles an hour speed. And I think most comments after first flight seemed to be nothing but positive maybe that's the case. Always I don't know. But same here, apparently, the the aircraft performed well, the straddle launch performed well, it was it was I think it was built by scaled composites. And I mean, those people know composites, and they know interesting aircraft designs, but Maxine I mean, you mentioned the the distance between the two fuselages. And I think that's so that they can suspend whatever vehicle or rockets, or whatever they are. Taking up to two to in order to to launch and give it quite a capacity. I think as I recall seeing has like five hundred thousand or maybe fifty five or maybe five hundred fifty thousand pound payload capacity, the separation between those two fuselages. I mean, it just looks kind of fragile in a way, you know, what I mean, it's pretty strong looks like it's what that has got to be close to eighty feet between the two fuselage. I was thinking about the earlier discussion here. Do you think? This might David be good ground attack vehicle all organs. We get up on that thing. Yeah. If you want a sitting target. Well. Yeah. No. I mean, it's just amazing. The amount of lift capability has originally believe it or not this is not a new idea. Would you believe this aircraft is pretty much based on a design on the original? What was going to be the space shuttle transporter, which was to C fives mated together with the center section engine Louis, but that was where the space shuttle was going to hang that was the original before they went with seven four seven, and then we can always go back to World War, Two Germany, and this kind of concept of having a long range aircraft with a nother aircraft slum between in between. It was one way that the Germans were planning to attack New York, which was going to have midway over the Atlantic. Ville larger aircraft was going to separate the smaller bomber and the smaller bomber was going to attack New York. Interesting. All right. Well, we've got a bunch of other stories in we're we're kinda using up our time..
"civil air patrol" Discussed on Airplane Geeks Podcast
"Those kind of aircraft trying to find the right one, but it's kind of hard to tell congress. We want to spend millions of dollars on an aircraft that we're never going to buy one of the greatest aircraft that came out of this was the five tiger to or the five a which was designed for the counterinsurgency role. And we've got no money out of him. Because we just bought a punch more from Switzerland to act as adversaries their forty year old airframes, but it's a challenge because we're trying to provide an economic reason for allies like Iraq and Afghanistan to support their forces. And a lot of African countries we wanna build up our infrastructure there to support them. So they have but we don't want to you just can't. To provide a developing nation. You can't provide them F16.'s. You can't provide. I mean, we're not talking at thirty five we're talking like F16.'s and some of the nation's now are Quiring first generation of sixteenth from the seventies. So we want to be able to support be able support that if the structure, so that's what the low insurgency low cost aircraft Amado that I hit it. All. Yeah. Absolutely. So max, t do you have any idea where you're going to be able to strap that Browning m fifty m two fifty caliber machine gun vision yet? No, no. I was waiting till. We start talking about the town. I know that's the other topic that. Love to talk about here. You know, the only thing I'll add to to what David was saying is it has very little to do with the partner nations pilot capacity when when you become a fighter pilot in attack pilot or an air force pilot and these nations these are the country's best of the best. They're often chosen by Hyatt, the highest levels of government to become pilots. So it is it is very much when when we go to train these files when we send US pilots to go train in these aircraft. The you're you are training the best of the best for for those countries. And. That's a sort of a misconception that I've heard about this program as well. They can't handle an f sixteen they can't handle fifteen or something. Well, will they can't handle it from from financial and maintenance standpoint, but but the pilots are amazing pilots that I've personally worked with their pilots and aircrews and ground crews and also Afghanstan it was it was using these type of aircraft that we trained the Afghan first Afghan woman pilot, so. It's a way to leverage leverage developing countries. And and like like Mondo said, it's not so much piloting skills. You're right. They're the best of the best, but you have to be able to develop some sort of infrastructure for a combat aircraft. And these are good way to start that we can leverage our support our support for them. So that their best in the best. And interestingly enough, it's usually out of the air force's. And this goes back to my degree that sometimes the best of the best become our allies later in life as diplomats and presidents or in Jordan's case kings and using VA shin as a way of building cultural, and and inter lapping technologies as well as synergies that the best of the best are trained. But you know, what? Like Yamamoto, the dovetails who are first conversation like Yamamoto learned here in the United States. He learned what the United States was capable of. And he learned about the freedoms. And he learned about aspects of how you used to unfortunately against us in that case. But, but this is a way to leverage our democratic Bill thoughts, and and ideas and to be realistic and to support these growing economies in growing nations to get them out of developing status to move them up in the world. All right. Let's let's move away from military aviation. Thank God in talking about something big like really big like really really big as in the straddle in max, trescott, we see that that aircraft made its first flight it did and other spectacular about this aircraft. It is no the one with the longest wingspan apparently of any aircraft wingspan is three hundred and eighty five feet long. So quite a bit more than the length of a football field. It's not the longest aircraft around, but it's very distinctive design. Just a backup was designed by by Christoph to Paul Allen company. Of course, Paul just passed away earlier this year, I believe and he was able to spend a lot of money on his program here after he passed away they scaled back a little bit in terms of their plans..
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"All built into the airframe. And those kind of those kind of sensors and sweet and electric technology would be where the Chinese and the Russians would want it to they could learn to defeat it. So it's not the first time we've had an aircraft. Go go down, and we've sent lots and lots of aircraft and subs and recovery vehicles out to try to find it because we've done it with their fourteen we've done it with F fifteens. But over time any piece of any piece of damage that they recover. That our our foes recover or could be used against the aircraft to diminish it. And we already know that the f thirty five quite a few plans of it fell into Chinese hands. So them being able to having the plans, and then seeing the technology up close, even if it's damaged you can reverse engineer it, so it's it could be a devastating loss to the program and to the aircraft's capabilities if it's recovered by people who don't want to see the aircraft the another website that will probably list the drive talks about how it's possible that they have already spotted where it is. But haven't released it because they don't want people to know, but they expect it's down roughly a mile and don't think it's really particularly going to be easily recoverable with with the current submarine technology that we have in terms of naval submarines. They may be a couple that can can get down there. But it's it's below crush depth of many of them. And what the other thing that I found interesting. This is one of the Mitsubishi assembled the f thirty five as it was made in Japan and from our parts and assembly enough supervising very closely. But it's it's a pretty scary thing to think that it might be recovered from by a couple of other nations. Yeah. Yeah. There's also a little bit of information about the pilot forty one years old. He's called inexperienced pilot about thirty two hundred flying hours about sixty in the f thirty five A, of course, that smaller number because the f thirty five eight hasn't been in Japan for for too long and his Mike said this is kind of a freshly built one. Yeah. I was going to pretty much saying exactly what Mike which is. It's interesting because this is Jeff. Knees assembled one, but as far as other countries, recovering this Misawa air base, where the aircraft to cough from is essentially a US base. Also. So we we've got a an abundance of US forces in the area. So I saw one of the articles or as a p eight Poseidon that's flying. We've got fifteen in that area. We've got a various rescue aircraft. So if they know where or at least the general area, I'm sure it will be an international area. But but the US will probably saturate the area to prevent that or any pieces from from going to the wrong people. They even have YouTube in the sky looking for it. Apparently, it has some sensors that may be able to help detect it. According to some of the websites I've seen and keep in mind that the reason why the Russians and the North Koreans and the Chinese. As one access to it is this is a weapon system that's being pervasive in the Pacific region. It's deployed now in Japan. Australia Singapore, looking at purchasing it, South Korea is looking at purchasing it. So you can understand that this is a very important aircraft to that region from a a international perspective. So the foes of those countries in our Pacific alliance who are Quiring the aircraft would want to get it. So they because they view it as threat in that area, especially China. All right. One more military story in mica found this one. This is so calm commander says special.
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"The brandy the soap E eighteen eighteen ninety six because that was the year that do little was born and that bottle and that display is the US air force museum, and it will no longer be be drunk from or or seeing Dave he wasn't Jimmy doolittle's co-pilot. He was doing co-pilot pilot. You said Mitchell if I've been saying Mitchell the whole time. Yes, you did. Oh my God. I'm sorry. All right. That's all right. Corrected here. Yeah. Jimmy, do those aircraft. They flew, folks. Not. And I'm just losing my mind. Okay. I'm going to shut up and go crawl into a hole the rest of the evening. Your emails to Mike at the US. Well, if you want to see there's a actually not so bad film that tells the story pretty well. It's called thirty seconds over Tokyo came out in nineteen forty four stars Spencer, Tracy, and I'd recommend you take a look at it to get the whole story. And actually, I actually was the twenty five Mitchell at the Pearl Harbor museum that I saw back in February actually is the splayed on an aircraft carrier deck and is labeled the ruptured duck. Likewise, the b twenty five also be twenty five also at the air force museum is Doolittle raider. So okay, I'm going to start now. All right. Oh, I'm really sorry. I'm humiliated. I'm going away. Now by. No, not at all. You know, when when we started talking about some of your guys questions to me. I'm sure you're going to fact, check me. So you get you get one hundred percent pass go. Couple of days ago, when I was visiting my mother, she hands me this clipping from the Washington Post. In. It's it's actually a bitchy wary for for coal. But anyway, it there's a there's a paragraph in here. It says as they reached Japan the tenant Cole said he saw beachgoers waving. And there's a quote from him. It was kind of like flying in Miami. He told the Dayton daily news. So those kind of a humorous humorous aspect to it. So, but yeah, so the last the last of the little raiders now history. So, you know, we we carry that tradition forward to or at least a memory forward honoring these guys who I mean, this was a one way mission which is. Normally missions you like to to have a return home, but this was kind of sketchy mission, but you know, the I think in in wartime in the the motivations for doing this where greater than the the individuals involved. But it was quite a feat. And max there is one other thing that's going to be the legacy for the Doolittle raiders. Yeah. And that is our new stealth bomber at the beach one has been named the raider in honor of the Doolittle. Oh, I didn't pick up on that. All right. Very cool. Very well. We have another military story. This is from the sun dot co dot UK race to find Japan's f thirty five stealth jet that crashed into see before China or Russia can steal top secret tech. Maybe the longest headline will run across today, but Japanese f thirty five eight. Fighter was lost about eighty miles east of the coasts of Japan. I guess as as we record this some of the wreckage has been found, I think the fate of the pilot is still still unknown. I think the pilot is still missing is that right? David. Have you heard anything more recent on the last time, I heard it was still considered missing in action? Yeah. So I guess this was a training mission in the the notion here is that if China or if Russia finds the wreckage I than that would be a great intelligence opportunity for them. So I guess what we have right now is a lot lot of surface and underwater vehicles to their or headed they're looking for the wreckage David wha-, what would the Russians or the Chinese? Be able to learn that would be important if they were able to recover and get away with the f thirty five the sensor, suite. I mean, the not necessarily the stealth. But the thirty five as far as an electronic capable aircraft. And all of the sensors that make it the force multiplier that the F thirty five is the ability to network with other aircraft, etc. That's.
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"The civil air patrol members from Los amigos and Costa Mesa helping us out keeping that DC. Nice and safe. Now, the command parachute team was formed in nineteen Ninety-one. It represents the command at community events throughout the great state of Florida where we are based and also across the country. The para commandos team is made up of volunteers all services under special operations command. We have three full-time members of the team everybody else's otherwise assigned. A so come on volunteers to be out here with you today. Now, if you're getting loud, I promise this guy can hear you welcome please. For our first jumper making his final approach into the DC. This is our master parachute. Rigger DOD parachute. Andy. Making his final turn into the drop zone. Nice and loud, ladies and gentlemen. Nice and loud United States army green beret sergeant first class. Cory Kristen says. Our top of the world. That's the decision notice that the last person coming in and a stack out which is today, it's an important decision. But it's even more important today because we have a hometown hero. Ladies and gentlemen. This guy was born and raised in California. And he's got a bunch of friends and family here today make him famous United States. Army sergeant first class. Mike. Well, my friends that does finish up our first demonstrated for today. We will be back later on this afternoon with the different free fall formation and skydiving demonstration, if you took some videos, please post Instagram YouTube Facebook, you can find us at hashtag, so calm para commandos. Also, the coastguard c twenty-seven that provided our jump platform for this morning. They're going to be making a pass pastures. Starting from the left. You can see a out there. Now, you have to be really loud for them to hear you. But when that Wayne comes violates gentlemen, help us out 'cause it's a huge. It's a really rather difficult to jump out of a plane. If you don't have a plane, you know what I mean? A big thank you to the coast guard for being there for us today. later on this afternoon. We will actually be jumping from a different platform a Blackhawk from the army national guard here in California. So our guys get two different platforms today. Colonel. Eric carl. I just wanted to thank you because you're doing a great job here. It is. Down the beach. You're gonna work in overtime. Because they brought me my sandwich. And we this is the beach. You don't wanna get too? Big of a hurry. I don't want you to get hungry angry if you get hungry angry. Let me tell you look at this look at that. That is a beautiful plane. Thank you United States coast guard, actually, this makes it a fully joint demonstrates end because the so calm here commanders at the forest service. And there's the fifth total.
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"The unitarian universalist church of annapolis to grieve and pay tribute to five murdered newspaper employees one of which was a member of that church when pastor described the mounting dread he had felt as it became clear that windy winters did not survive thursday shooting at the capital gazette in annapolis the sixty five year old winters was a special publications editor and a mother of four settle those attending the vigil gasped when another pastor noted that winters had participated in a training session at the church just three weeks ago on how to respond to an active shooter president trump made his public remarks about the deadly shooting at the newspaper speaking in the east room at the white house the president says the attack shocked the conscience of our nation and filled our hearts with grief journalists like all americans should be free from the fear of being violently attacked while doing their job the president was speaking at a previously scheduled event to mark the six month anniversary of the republican tax bill i california man's under arrest accused of threatening to kill the family of the chairman of the federal communications commission over internet speeds thirtythreeyearold mark horo man who lives here in southern california is accused of sending threatening emails to fcc chairman ajit pie federal prosecutors say the emails claimed pie was responsible for a child who man said committed suicide because of net neutrality regulations being repealed and they say he threatened to kill pies family when arrested they claimed man admitted that he had sent the emails because he was angry about the repeal of net neutrality rules in wanted to scare pie alex stone abc news los angeles if convicted man could get up to ten years in prison members of one arizona family you're being honored with congressional gold medals ktar's mark carlson tells us that those honored today served in the volunteers civil air patrol paul burke francis burke weeden and philipsburg were all honored today with congressional gold medals sharon franklin a phoenix is related to all three burks so proud of my family and what my parents and my grandfather did in the life of the community i'm just very proud of everybody john gruber received a gold medal for his grandfather paul burke my middle name is paul i'm named after him in that department and it's quite an honor needless to say the civil air patrols made up of civilian volunteers their mission.
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"And you can answer the call to volunteer your and become an average zero ever as a member of the civil air patrol klein the unit near you go civil air patrol dot com this is the savage nation let me remind you when the mobs get out of control there's a solution to that problem and that problem is sal berry easily the national guard is called out without rubber bullets and all of a sudden the bullets flight the next day unfortunately there are dead bodies on the ground and the college students gall cut their go back to work if these are the five nazis keep it up that is what the government is going to do michael savage who slugged no other michael savage weeknights 8 to 11 kelo newstalk 1320 1079 as we continue sean hannity show we're in vegas final days here today we're going to be going right over to the hospital immediately phoned this program and and meeting some of the people that have been injured here which is extremely humbling when i met this man last night the mary 32 years is at the concert with his wife holding her hand and she died in his arms i nearly lost at its but probably the hardest dinner be one of the hardest interviews i've ever done bill o'reilly is with us his book is no number one on the new york times list in a we're talking of vow this hardcore left you put the number at about twenty five percent of americans i would argue that might be inaccurate number of the media is certainly a 100 percent hard left or a ninety eight percent hard left i argued journalism is dead in america and then you have a bunch of people that just aren't really informed are susceptible to bumper stickers and slogans and the playbook that the the left plays every election season but last time you were on you talked about how ultimately the left the hard left would want to get rid of our constitution larry o'connell wrote a column about how michael moore is calling for the repeal the second amendment brad stevens is now with the new york times he's supposed to be there their loan conservative voice and he's not a conservative once worked for the wall street journal these these saying the same thing if they get to that.