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U.S. officials question AstraZeneca trial results - Mid-day Briefing - Marketplace Minute - March 23, 2021

Marketplace Minute

01:05 min | 3 weeks ago

U.S. officials question AstraZeneca trial results - Mid-day Briefing - Marketplace Minute - March 23, 2021

"New questions about astrazeneca's covid vaccine. I'm nova safa with the marketplace minute astrazeneca stock declined on wall street at market open today extending losses in overseas trading on the london stock exchange that after. Us health officials took an unusual step. They publicly raised concerns about the company's reporting of efficacy data from its. Us vaccine trial officials say the company may have included outdated information in the trial results. The regal cinema chain is opening back up in april on the heels of amc theaters. Regal's owners cinta world says it struck a deal with warner brothers to exclusively show the studio's releases for forty five days before they are available for streaming. That deal starts next year. After the closing bell today game stop releases its latest quarterly earnings report. Investors are watching for an anticipated return to sales growth. The video game store chain is the biggest of the so-called memes stocks. I'm novus ofo with the marketplace minute.

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Kansass Big Problem, Pitino Settles, and Top Prospects With Sam Vecenie | One Shining Podcast

One Shining Podcast with Titus and Tate

1:15:48 hr | 1 year ago

Kansass Big Problem, Pitino Settles, and Top Prospects With Sam Vecenie | One Shining Podcast

"Today's episode of one shining podcast is brought to you by the ringer dot com and the ringer podcast network where you can find such podcasts as against all odds with cousin sal new producer your dial. It is no longer take frazier. It is now Jim Cunningham. Jim was prepping for the pod. He said be sure to tell all of your listeners that I am now. The producer user of against all odds podcast take frazier requiem probably his big break there. Yeah it was yeah. You've got a lot of a lot of people ask me about Jim and I was like you. Don't want to get this guy yeah. This guy like Jim really funny and entertaining and I was like don't meet your heroes. I promise so you're welcome. You're welcome yeah so go. Check that out. If you enjoyed the the the gym the lengthy Jim Appearance on the the show we did where we put taking the ground through dirt on his grave J you can hear more jim on against all odds with cousin South Doc listen to that also you can hear Kyle on you. Talk the most on this one though a one hundred percent yeah for sure nobody really actually want words out and break your do you talk more more on. Russillo spot or bills you know I used to talk more on risotto's pod and then we changed the name to the Ryen Russillo podcasts boxed out a little bit so it was dual threat and you're the other the other threat and now you're not much shoot today on the program we have my good buddy from the athletic will say from from from his podcast Game Theory Sam Vaccine. Is in-studio joining us today. I'm having him in to talk about the big news in college basketball big news in the world the Kansas this Jayhawks are going down bill self. NCA gave the the the notice of allegations to Kansas the notice allegations is basically just a massive fuck you to bill self specifically bill self not even Kansas General so we're going to talk about that Samson. Mba Guy too so we're going to talk about this I'm fascinated by this Chuo Kiki thing. He is red shirt lean for their Orlando Magic so I'm GonNa have same explain it to my brain because I don't understand what's going on. And of course we have to talk about re Patino. Rick Pitino has settled his lawsuit. The University of Louisville we put to rest we can put the bed there it is we can put the bed all things. Patino we're GONNA talk about all that see where this thing goes does we're going to do all of it but first woody. Durham technical all right it. It is Tuesday afternoon. We're recording this a little bit late. Usually as much as I do enough time to process all claims Kansas all things all these statements sir coming out of the cities joining. Sam Say people join the conversation. We've gotTA statement best do you. Do you feel any pressure by the way you're teaching. I I have to be tate already lined up so take texted mark before the podcast was like tell Seaney can't seal any of my jokes already got like a few just lined up yeah go yeah I mean th there are only a few jokes that make so there's no more than a few yeah I can't pop in the coach K. accent or impression like he can neither contain. That's what makes it funny. That's true so we've got to talk about this. Kansas thing because this is what the people want to hear about we if we're nothing at this program if not people that have our our fingers on the pulse of all things. FBI and and we're very good at a sounding alarm insane this is going to change everything this time folks this changes every there might not be an NCAA not a tournament next year. This is a massive yeah. This could be it which which brings me to this point. I'll make this point now. This is a great time to do it the article that comes out talking about the the notice of allegations. Cinta Cinta Kansas the article starts like this the University of Kansas received notice of allegations from the NCAA on Monday which includes foods and here's the fun part potentially devastating allegations towards the men's basketball program those three words best describe the whole FBI potentially devastating out it could be devastating but even if it is devastating they're just allegations but it could be devastated potentially of that's where we've arrived at all this yes but no this is big news. This is as I said that the notice allegations you read through the whole thing you you are yeah. I I have my finger on the pulse of all things college basketball. Yeah tell you in my role is someone who has to watch too much college basketball. You're the sucker in this operation. I Skim went through it and got the gist which is based as I said at the top just a big fuck you to bill self over fuck you off now. It's like the thing in Zealander were they have walk-off like down the aisle or whatever like this is basically where we're at with bill self and the NCAA like I'm expecting bill self to like underwear out of his like crotch somehow how magically inhabited intact. NCAA BILL SELF puts out a statement and his was the same way. I I mean he was basically like the one thing I remember him. Saying in his was every student athlete has ever played for me knows that we follow the rules and even put some like their families not follow the rules too. He was very very adamant and again. It's not him. It's his lawyers. It's his is people you would think so but he puts out the statement to in response. Kansas puts out. I I love the Kansas response by the way the candidate the University of Kansas puts out their response. They have ninety days to submit official official response so their statement that they initially put out says here's the part that I love the university's responsible fully and comprehensively presents positions regarding the notice this in the meantime though it is already clear from an initial review that the university will fiercely dispute and detail much of what has been presented and that's another way of saying like we don't even need need to reduce. We denied all. We don't even care what you're what you're saying we did. We didn't do it tonight. We'll read it later but for right now please. We did not do this. There's no reason to not deny I mean what you're going to accept it and be like Oh yeah. NCA come down in sanctioned fleas anxious army. Oh wait. You don't have an army. Thank you sir. May I have another so let let's go over what exactly happened here for the people that tune it because we we have an alarming number of listeners that have no idea what's going on in college basketball and they get their news from us which just as September twenty four and please don't care about college basketball so that is potentially devastating to that about him so three level one violations wins. You can stop me if I'm wrong because you probably you actually read the shit but this this was how I interpreted three level one violations the big phrase that that gets everyone all on. It's easy gets them. All titillated is the lack of institutional control. That was sure that was thrown out here. That's that's what makes all the journalists jaws drop and say folks this time. It were for real real. This is going to happen. This is bad there's also the head coach. The phrase ourselves like head coach responsibility charge which is another way of saying sell should've known yeah. I was sick of like all these coaches having plausible deniability today finally a few years ago relate well. That's no longer an excuse so they're saying bill self. You're screwed. We're coming after you that it stems from what the recruitment. How many guys are we talking here. Billy Preston dissociate like even know who else is this was the other phone directed yeah so go ahead. The other part of the notice of allegations is everything's redacted so you're going through it and but they have enough information nations. You can kind of figure out like what names plugged in where right it's like this. It's like a logic puzzle that you do. I used to do these when I was like third grade and it Kyle. Do you remember these puzzles probably didn't do these as the the the logic puzzles where the teachers will give you and be like you have like eight rules like the first rule is like like Janice only dates guys that wear red shirts shirts Lisa likes guys at where Richards but also blue tennis shoes tile wears blue tennis shoes on Wednesday night and then and then it's like goes on Ron and like fill out this chart using all the clues and then you have to do the logic whatever that's how I feel reading the notice of allegations is like all right so from June twenty seventeen to like who which which recruits were being recruited here who lives here all that kind of stuff you start plugging in names and then it just all falls in line and someone out there probably knows like everything that actually happened in and I can feel the simplest so it's funny like I told you earlier. I was on the phone. With how specific do I want to get here. Someone redacted redacted. Someone someone connected with the notice of allegations will not go into detail further and we were trying to figure out like the names in there and this person who should have have like very distinct knowledge of what's happening was like yeah. I don't know what the fuck they're talking about. This guy this guy in the report I will say connected did to the report in some way she yeah. We're form to keep it vague enough that works for me we were we were trying to get him to call in by the way we're are. GonNa have a joke at all. You guys are doing for the last hour figuring out and get this yeah. We're trying to figure out how scramble his voice yeah. It's not did not go off without a hitch and he's so when he says he doesn't know what he did. Eric how is this. It's just like is again is this. The Kansas statement is like I don't. I don't know what I'm being accused of. The thing that frustrates me about all of this in it's just like a general complaint complain about everything involved with the FBI getting involved with this case so the FBI gets involved with this case. The reason that it becomes a federal case theoretically is because they alleged that Adidas is basically defrauding. The universities involved right candice victim. Yeah the Kansas was the victim abyss now the NCAA is coming back to Kansas and saying Kansas. You actually received the benefits yes. You're the perpetrators traders. TJ Gas is a booster for your program like it's ridiculous to me this is what happens when the FBI FBI decides to essentially we litigated based off of the NCAA rule book is opposed to like. I mean like look maybe there was there were laws broken but like at the end of the day the reason were laws broken was because of the NCAA rule book and I don't really see why the FBI should've gotten involved in it in the first place breath right now. We're in a circumstance where the NCAA is essentially you know on the exact opposite side of where the federal government was when charging these forests coaches right. It's just I find find that hard to center you know and no one wants to hear this because we want. We Want Kansas to burn. That's what we want. We don't blood got them. Can we find like we vinyl have blood and that's that's what's frustrating is because everything about this feels like a slam dunk in the sense that this is. I made this point on the last podcast like this. This is what the NCAA exists for the NCAA exists. Basically two reasons one is to to administer national champion sufficient to crown national champions the most important part under one umbrella. They were all all plan for this trophy. The other thing is to make sure no one's getting paid. That's pretty much it and they're yeah. They're out of their depth. This is why the North Carolina thing why North Carolina Skating I I make fun of this all the time. I think North Carolina to their balls off. I think like it was a very obvious well wait. Can we talk about something here. Go ahead you north. North Carolina cheated. It's balls off if you look in this notice of allegations they provide a detailed timeline of every single level one or level two offense that Kansas ever committed against the NCAA if you look there's a little window there from nineteen eighty eight to two thousand and three one thousand nine hundred of Kansas. I'm going full tate frazier here. Yeah look at this. You did nothing wrong. It is Roy Williams. It is clean good. Oh Ball shucks yeah Well No. I don't think I yeah I don't know how much Roy had to do with the Carolinas stuff anyway I will say i. I don't mind defending really. I like Roy but I I am buying all shock thing back to the point. Though Carolina cheated the the the obviously so I what I'm about to say please know that like I do rotate for that. I do think they got away with it but we need to throw some allegedly allegedly yeah potentially devastating allegations. I'm lofting towards North Carolina or now. I do think that she did but I don't think they should have been punished. I was fine with them not being punished because like it was kind of the perfect crime. It was absolutely perfect what they did academic academic fraud. I have to tip my cap and it'd be like dude that was that was well played because it was out of their depth they could they couldn't they couldn't decide they. They couldn't audit classes that North Carolina was offering and if you actually read up on the details I know like I'm yelling into the abyss at this point like people on twitter just want to be upset in North Carolina but I actually was like fine with that decision because it was would have been a horrible precedent if these as getting into classrooms and decide and all that kind of stuff we don't want. NCA NCA. We don't want sports at the collegiate level to be more connected with Akkad rights. No we don't like it should not be connected to begin with like around the world. Were probably the only people who do this right like the only country in the world that keeps these things. Can I guess we don't want that to be further connects right right. Which is why I was like yeah. I don't want people misunderstand when I say I was fine with it. I don't mean that like I don't think Carolina did anything wrong. I just mean what you said right. I see the bigger picture here and at the same point like here's here's the thing about that too like look like we both went to Ohio state like you know my one major at. Ohio state was communication. I mean like me to there. We go yeah. It was great. My Second Major was film study. So it was easy. I can coast into great awesome. I used to sit sit in classes next two guys that you played with ingenuity like there's one guy's Parco it's okay it's not having Turner I sit next guys in classes and they literally would just pull out a portable. DVD Player and watch their own highlights on the portable. Was this me okay. You didn't have enough highlight. I was watching the same mid one three my career just rewatching door but like it's so he's likely we're. GonNa have a basketball player skate through yeah. Of course it's very easy to have a basketball player escape through the fact that North Carolina basically allegedly made this something something more than it had to be and like sanctioned in essentially allegedly again I it's just ridiculous. It was time because they also so they all you throw in regular students in with the mix the pot around now. You can't tell who's a regular student. WHO's a student at like it was the perfect crime and I think we as a society should just tip our caps. It'd be like congratulations. Nobody got hurt. Nobody hurt you did but the point being didn't say was out of their jurisdiction with that and a lot of ways as as fucked up as it is is the same thing applied to the Penn State Dusky thing. We're like a lot of those. Punishments got walked back like they. They tried to new Penn State Penn state kind of fought back. They're like Oh we realize as we don't actually have jurisdiction to do this out of our depth here. They kind of pulled back. You got like the Baylor thing which the Baylor sanctions are supposed to be coming any day now. We've been saying that for months. WHO The hell those. It's probably the same thing like they're probably looking like. We have no authority here with the fucking we do also sexual under Brian they haven't they have the sanctions have naive about it. I don't think they have I think like the notice of allegations came and they're trying to hammer mon but they keep pushing off the actual sanctions and I assume it's the same reason because they're like shit. We're not actually equipped to deal with this sort of stuff and the point I'm making here is this Kansas. Thing is what they're equipped to deal with. This is a fastball down the middle except as you said we now have a new little caveat that makes it complicated of is Kansas a victim or the perpetrator yeah yeah now. It's like fuck we had we had it right here. Here's the thing like anytime the NCAA gets into these fights right with a player that is trying to transfer or or you know something along those lines anytime there's public opinion and public backlash against the NCAA for reducing student athletes rights or reducing a student athletes paycheck the NCAA is a tendency to fold now this is more along the lines of your players getting paid but it should theoretically if they have the proof at least in again they should give this stuff was made under penalty of perjury and courtroom he statements by Itj Gas Nola. I think that they're probably going to need a little bit more proof nodal up more proof just a little bit more proof to sway public opinion to their side on the scenario in make it so that it's like a tenable position for them to be able to like really come down on Kansas because right now. I think that the messaging problem they're going to have and the problem. They're going to have general cases proving. TJ Gas Nola was a booster hilarious. I mean if a booster looser what does that make Phil Knight to Oregon Right Right like shit. I don't know if they want to go down that road and down that precedent so I'm going to be released like this is kind of now how interesting look at how the sausage is made within the NCAA with these endorsement contracts from under armor with UCLA in Maryland Land Adidas with Kansas and NC state and places in the Nike like you said with Oregon and Duke and you know Jordan brand with UNC like just everybody but Ohio state yeah agree name them. All these schools have are so intricately connected with apparel depart apparel providers that it's really complicated to try and legislate what is booster and what is not to be right and who is helping the program and you know who's not helping program. It's going to be really interesting. I really don't know what's going to happen here. here's here's a question and this is right off the top of my head admittedly half-baked a fucking died Diane. I'm diving in do we need. Do we need to apparel like is there a way to get. I know they're not going to cause. There's too much money involved like so you think these member institutions and the NCAA are going to be like no. We're going to not take your twenty million yeah right. I was trying to I I WANNA criticize the serious about it can't they to step up and just say like you know what no more shoe companies involved in any lists and like we're not put it like you like school school. Why can't they just do it the NBA does how about that why why can't thirty one deal for all division one so it's going to get really interesting to whenever they start getting into the name image and likeness stuff as well because at at the end of the day these kids that are trying to make money off their name image and likeness are GonNa sign the shoe deals. Probably you know someone like Zion Williamson. He he signed with Jordan brand. You would think that's GonNa happen a year earlier yeah right where he'll signed with. Jordan brand going into his freshman year at Duke as opposed to after his freshman year so nike being like urge or Duke being a Nike School. Yeah does that affect things like what if a Adidas Kid had signs with a Nike school out yeah. I don't really know it's we're in the first place that I mean. It makes sense how we got here. We're shoe companies. Are you know all the money involved. It makes total sense how we got here where shoe companies sponsoring all these programs but if you step back and really think about it like it is kind of weird that Zion Williamson free he might that'd be bags season Nike Guy but. Let's Zion wasn't originally guy what does that. What if what if Zion is whole life he loved wearing adidas shoes like those were the shoes he played best in. They felt more comfortable to him all that kind of stuff and he goes the duke and he's like. I don't really like hell. Nike's fitness blows out his work. He cannot wear. We're an DITA shoe he he he making no money on any of this. Everyone's getting richer. Outta never mind like pay the players in a scholarship like this man like cannot even they dictate dictate what shoe you get aware he cannot. You cannot be like listen. I prefer Adidas. I have not signed any contract with anybody says I'm I'm beholden to one company and the the schools can say well two beds. I and we signed hundred million dollar shoe deal so you have to wear this yeah and like their argument would be like Zion. We literally had engineers from Nike. Come out to Duke and make you a new shoe but at the end of the day you're stealing the kids atonomy to control his own body so yeah. No I totally agree with. It's ridiculous what let's get rid of okay. So what if we do the shoe deals but like we read of this is this is a terrible idea but get rid of all the logos or something like there's gotta be a way they like where we're not like kind of fucked up that we know what you can say a school and say what their shoe brandis like. They're so married buried at this point the thing you could just say you know I think that part of the reason that these apparel companies decide to do this is to get the advertising on TV but the other and I would imagine bigger part financially for them is that they get to sell the payroll young. The team is t shirts and jerseys and everything like that. Not what if we just say hey you can wear whatever shoes you want your we're going to be in terms of jerseys by. Nike Nike is still going to get to sell all of the merchandise and apparel right. Just do whatever you WANNA. Do do what everyone yeah yeah. I don't know I don't know what the solution is. Neither do I but the big question for me going forward with Kansas switch now. Is You know I wish I was trying to figure out who the first media person would be to say. Bill self should be fired because bill self if is like universally below yeah by media of a certain age like all of the legacy media people like to go out and drink with. He's a good old boy. I mean like big old belly. Just WanNa rub you WANNA. You know he's got this smirk. He's he's very I would say likable but he does have. That seems like a very nice down home. Not a slime ball Give off a slime ball vibe. I I don't know bill self at all like he's one of the guys that I don't have a relationship with within college basketball but everyone that I know within the media not everyone but most people I know within the media Nobil self as the greatest dude like an awesome guy so who's going to be the brave journalists analysts the very you know incredible journalists who's going to be like you know what Bill Self. It's all should be fired. It's definitely golly. It's gotta be Sean Yet. He's on the keep him side probably right. That's great. You're yelling about Shawn Miller getting fired. I mean when it comes to like. Patino and other key pixes assist spots so we need a we need a twenty-three reported bill. How much Italian balloon does he have does. That's what it comes down to talk either way. He's gotTa be saving more more fun if he's more than thirty percent. Italian dickey will defend them otherwise he's fucked. dicky's GonNa be fired off those tweets because he went after we'll wait he went after our bill self defense cal. Defense Patino down the middle with him. This is a great point this yeah it's. It's just how much time because you're on hawks. Are we going to have six more weeks of winter. That's what it is. Bill comes out. Just a Google talked really hams it up like trying to get dickey's affection. For why do we think this is the way it is. Though with you know meeting people so willing to attack Shawn Miller and attack we'll wait and then when it comes to bill self it like we haven't seen that yet right like ours been yes some. That's a great question. If if this is true than bill self is in some trouble but like with Shawn Miller. Everyone was like that motherfucker should be fired right now. We'll wait. It was like you know look at look at Al Nervous. He was whenever he was in that press conference. I think will wage problem. Tom Is young and he's a little more brazen about it. Just as attitude around the whole thing that's always problems. Shawn Miller flew too close to the Sun Shawn Miller Lake Shawn on Miller's out here DECI. Shawn Miller pissed off a lot of head coaches to because like I said he he would have been fine if he just got like one top five guy every so often but when you're getting like every single the top five guy west of the Mississippi River every single year you're starting to Piss people off and people are taking notice of that. I think that was his problem but you make a great point like no one What what really is the difference. Do you think I gue- I guess it might be this. Do you think there's an element of if go after bill self were. We're all by extension going after you're Kansas and Kansas is such a behemoth. The old Tarquini thing of like say doesn't WanNa go after the the big schools we need. We need the blue bloods to to be per per preserved zone the blood though like a West Coast Blueblood grade-point that brings me to this note ahead what does meat for Arizona win the NCAA comes out and says we're going after two high-profile programs and six programs in total. That was the report radical march or April Kansas well. That's what I'm asking because they said we have six programs. We're going to dish out ally the notice of allegations to write some of them are high profile the too high profiles are going to happen by the end of July so everyone once set your calendars back. It is no longer the end of September is actually the end of July so. NC State was the first in Kansas. So what does Arizona is Arizona coming or are are they not blue blood or is it not the blood is Louisville as Louisville not a blue blue. It's still who is this is. This is these are these are bigger implications than anything else the business the hierarchy of college basketball is a Arizona is Arizona now going to skate like if I'm in Arizona Fan I mean I'm either very very happy because now I'm like all right. We'll do the math the too high profiles are out of the way I think we're good or like I come like real angry pack pride message boards when like Arizona on our Louisville gets hit for knows allegations and NC states like they didn't call us a Blue Ball Mike Yeah at state fairs. You'RE GONNA be mad yeah that they're not a blue but they don't know that this is a good thing saying that uh other program we don't care. We want to be a blood. yes so Arizona fans. There either tickled to death at like man this reform three or it's going to be double painful painful. Would you still get hit with the sanctions and the sanctions mean. You were never though their blood yeah you're not a high profile program and also your coach which is fired and also everything's been vacated and you're banned from the tournament next year. what does this mean. I don't know so the question movie. CAN WE ZONA fans. be real angry at dickey's dickey back. Yes I sent you a tweak. You have the tweet this promise you. I promise you had to so some guy tweets addictive. This was today right yeah. Some guy tweets a dickey. I I find it. I find it kind of poetic that all of dickey's buddies are getting fired. Slash notices validations education's a dickey respond to the guy I have loads of friends slash get real slash it real handful of guys received notice of allegations period have a great day as I had fantastic morning speaking at and then an all caps notre dame. That was the tweet. Can we talk about taste slash. Get Real Dude. His twitter is a goldmine turned around Arizona. Getting like allegations hurled at the program for a year two. I have have lots of lots of friends and I spoke all caps. Notre Dame's little legend. Oh I got so the question that everyone listening to this show wants to know they they wanna cut to the chase is Kansas. GonNa Burn. Are we going to get bill selves head on a stake. your thoughts. Sam I don't know I think they're like I guess I would lean yes if only because the NCAA A it seems particularly angry about this like the statement and the notice of allegations is like very clearly disappointed pointed at bill self right and they are trying to take down bill self with us. I think like it's why bill self sent back fuck you. It's why bill selves lawyers than sent back separate separate fuck you like. I think this is just what's happening here but do I think that the. NCAA is going to be successful. I mean the NCAA hasn't exactly exactly been like a beacon of you know an incredibly run organization yeah right now a beacon of competence so like I don't know I mean maybe it'll work. I think the one one hangup is as we said before just the FBI saying that Kansas is a victim but then also now. We're arguing that the perpetrator that's all GonNa. I firmly believe the reason I make fun of the Jerry. Tar Canyon quota time is because I think that's the dumbest quote industry of sports it. It's so so stupid like you can go back and look at all sorts of blue bloods hammered by the okay all the time like just absolutely fuck for like the most obvious we're listen. We're two house. Democrats to talk about Ohio State football right getting tattoos. I mean are you crazy. They got they got they got free tattoos and they had entire trestle got fired over that Shit's. He didn't deserve to get fired but I'm saying anyone that says say they would never go like they fucking fired. Jim tressel over tattoos like you really think that they're not scared to go after Blueblood. They'll go after blue bloods. They're not scared while in this notice validations on or or about June fourteenth guests Nola with God does approval use the DA's funds to provide approximately fifteen thousand dollars an impermissible benefits and impermissible agent benefits to blank via wire transfer like yeah. It's crazy like we've leveled up to such an extent or at least the NCAA is leveled up in terms of like what it's actually investigating I wanted to do I wanted to pitch this before tate abandoned us and ruined everything I wanted to do a running series of podcasts we re basis relitigate scandals from the past ever like the biggest great deals ever it was basically the Dusky thing has changed everything everyone was like Oh. That's a scandal. I need to rethink what a scandal actually is. That is a scandal scandal because I before it was like Oh my God how got Tattoos Reggie Bush got a car shit and then and then the okay so never mind forget all of that whole the funniest the thing is like in this notes about allegations it lists like past transgressions by the University of Kansas and it's like in nineteen fifty seven within the university provided like recruiting benefits to blank like what the fuck was that recruiting benefit fifteen dollars unlike burger digging up James Naismith. Mike put him on trial. That's something that you definitely need a dimension you love. I just thought of this another another thing. That's would be funded. Revisit is a Kelvin Sampson phone calls. You like at the time that was like another match. Kevin Kelvin Sampson was making me moth like legal legal now but at the time it was like Oh my God get this guy out of college basketball forever nothing so to answer my question I asked you do. I think Kansas is going to burn. I mean I do think some has to happen. I think this is as I said before the NCAA is if they if they can't do anything about this then they're useless and maybe I don't want anything to happen for that reason I kind of don't want anything to happen because then everyone all the member schools in the NCAA realize why what the hell are you here for if you're not here for this this is put on a tee for you the FBI. Did all the legwork worked for you. They got all the evidence for you. The handed over to the one little problem is that they said Kansas was victim but even then you should be able to give us some blood. You should be able to the blood and if you can't then why are you exist so I have a little bit of faith that something's going to happen but at the same time I think something is going to happen. The question is like like how Severe Ryan like are we talking bill self show 'cause that for them to go to the NBA for five years or whatever comes back to call thunder what who what about a coach swap up thunder and so just Don Donovan to Kansas bill sell to the Thunder Says No. I'm here for it. Well billy inherit a the program. That's about to get newt is it. I is it you're not allowed to go to the. NCAA tournament yeah for a year is it multiple years not allowed to go to the NCAA tournament. I mean we we have an NCAA tournament this year yeah so demand will agree point the the the appeals process is going going to take long enough. The Kansas will still be fine this year. Oh yeah they sent out this they sent this out on September Twenty Third Twenty Nineteen Kansas says ninety days to respond so that takes us to what like December third right so takes us midway through the year. Whatever right to to start conference play and then you and then you go from there and appeared and then it's the drawn out process you appeal you? What is the point is. It's not going to get resolved before the why do you get ninety days so you can be cheeky about it like why do they united rule they request so at the bottom of the notice of allegations they request supplemental information and there are like it ten bullet points here in terms of what the NCAA's asking Kansas to gather okay so we'll in the fucking boxes on the Dali's enough taught. It was just like a no. I thought it was like one of the injury like that sort of like. Kansas doesn't really need the ninety days because they took like ninety minutes to put out their statements like you didn't didn't do this whatever it is. We didn't do it but yeah. It's just a formality so anyway the back the point I was making There's not gonna be a new national. Champion will be crowned before this. This is resolved which there's a good chance can't yes. Yes that isn't play. Kansas and Michigan State are the two best teams coming into the season. One of them will be number one probably probably Michigan. She can state but a lot of people like Kansas to and it'd be one of the two W. One of those two and there is a world. We're Kansas wins. The national title gets vacated like a month wants later. That's what I'm excited for. That's what I really want. Double feature the region but this. Oh this could be great for. Maybe Kansas puts out. I mean to Sosa's obviously obviously linked to all of this on the roster so maybe Kansas City. I don't know who else was involved. It's guilty but but they've already set him like five like that. Dude's rollercoaster for career. He's played in four games or something. I don't remember this point. He settled for so long so many different times. I can't keep up. He's fine like I've never been like a huge fan of him as a player Kansas. Thank me for this time but like he's fine guest. Nola didn't think Espinola say that he gave his foul main was his guy right. Finishing foul main is Sylvia Sosa and by the way Bruno Fernando's already is GonNa throw that out there inch interesting so guess. Nola testified that he did give twenty five hundred dollars to foul may but then he denied. I think the twenty eight thousand dollars was the big payment I think. He denied that one so they all we know for sure. Is that basically the WHO cares. I'm I'm. I'm running with it. As fact there my head there are plenty of five stars that have come to Kansas that it could apply in my head to Sosa is basically been suspended five different times and just like jerked all around like in terms of like eligible eligible now go here now. You're in the middle of this scandal now. You're not whatever and and it's all over basically like two thousand five hundred dollars. That's what's happening. That's basically and now he's now. He's probably GonNa Start for. He's GonNa Start. Certainly I think so I think start for one of the best in the country and now he is back in the middle of all of this and it'll probably be datsun algae Silvio Sosa Bouquet doke yeah and then one of Marcus characterize. Am all standing on whatever this is great for the big ten though because because Michigan State's the other good team. Maybe this nukes Kansas this season. I don't love do this year. I don't love North Carolina this year Kentucky. I like a little bit that'd be fun. That'd be okay yeah. Could this be the year twenty years. God's plan two point. Oh that twenty years after Michigan State won the last title for the Big Ten. It's all happening. It's all falling into place Michigan State Twenty years later will will repeat yeah. I think Michigan State was the cycle. Michigan say it'd be the team that I think is number. One followed by Kansas to I also have have placed a wager on Florida to win the title. I got them before. Kerry black sheer signed so so you're you know I got them at like five to one I saw ah Mike White was on rosters podcast and Rosty estim- is most talented team. You've ever had any said something like by far. The author is and then he goes by far but it was funny. Not I say he's like by far and then he caught himself like during the coach thing where it's like shit at September. I can't say the best team I've ever had. It's like in the same breath like by far. We're loaded and we have a chance has to be. Maybe one of the best teams I've ever had. We have a chance after same by far not like Michigan State Kansas Louisville Florida Florida That's basically four I would point out is like being really in Kentucky to I'm sorry those Kentucky Lot yeah. I do like Kentucky Kentucky Florida's. You me great the state but yeah I don't. I don't love Duke in this year. Yeah Yeah agree. Carolina doesn't have a ton adapt like I'm a huge calling Anthony Guy but Yeah Carolina thinks it's going to be fine. I don't have the way dukes pieces fit together going full Tate I. I'm going full lake. I just need a one year cleanse of Duke after last year like if you can't you can't make the final four of that team. I don't care what you recruiting classes this year. I'm out. I'm out this year. I'm like I'm just out on you. Revisit next year tails on Kansas before we take a break. Oh that's a good question yeah so it is worth mentioning. Maybe that like there is one one place where I think Kansas really might get hit. It's apparently that like people within their athletic department according knows validations like raised concerns about like TJ gas knowle's like like relationship with the program in no one did anything so like that could be something that does end up hurting them trying to think if there's anything he also. I mean just like it's worth mentioning to. I do want to mention this about the football. Program Football Program is tied to this attack detected on various level to allegations allegations to the football program that has won eighteen games in the last nine years. We're hiring less mild so David Beatty. I think it's Jeff love is his name. The those guys were out here are trying to cheat to win two games a year. Oh my God did did they beat Texas. One Year Charlie strong fired right. I swear they beat Texas. I don't know it was like the final. Straw was Charlie strong. He was yeah. I swear that's what happened. That'd be hysterical. stugotz vacated that when we could we please get. Kansas football wins vacated. Hey too because that's the important stuff here. I just also want to say to win being vacated the dumbest penalty in the history of it's done but what else can I do. I guess yes I mean you can do the Scott 'cause scholarships punish layers kids late because because you end up punishing kids that had nothing to do with it so I guests just fine the shit out of the Athletic Department yeah sure where it doesn't affect the kids on the court where they're able to go to the NCAA tournament. Maybe what you do is you band teams from going onto the NCAA tournament three years down the road or so. I actually liked that. That's a great idea down the road so the current kids aren't affected but the program is effective sweeny recruit that comes in knows what getting himself into or like two years down the road and say like because these kids weren't here whenever these allegations nations transgressions went down they'll be able to transfer at the end of the year and Kansas will not be able to go to the NCAA tournament year after that or ex university while I love this idea yeah. This is way too good of an idea for the show. That's a great idea. I did my closing. I just want to reiterate like won the the Jerry Tarquini thing. Let's not do that folks. Let's let's please please don't do that. They can't if Kansas doesn't hit. It's because the NCAA what what's the what's the something razor the we're like the dumbest explanation is usually comes razor often the yes. I'M GONNA play that here and I'd say the reason like some team skate and some teams don't is. There's not some grand conspiracy. It's because the ANC is inept and they don't know what the hell they're doing and it's a case by case like sometimes they luck into something where they have jurisdiction evidence and schools like Shit. You Got US in other times. They tried their out of their element. They tried to punish on on no grounds whatsoever then. They're like tap their chest my bed. I E North Carolina so Kansas gets off. It's not because they're protecting blue bloods. It's because it's really hard to prove shit. That happens like the shadows like having said that. You should still be very very upset because if there's ever if there's one thing that the NCAA associates designed to do. It's it's to take down cases like this. This is why compliance exists in fact. I wrote this diet that my party that was as I had this quote from the article two. They said a a veteran compliance officer said the sports very very serious. When told of the contents of the Kansas letter in the quote was that's everything that compliance is employed to prevent. That's that's the TRIFECTA. That's unbelievable. That's the reason why compliance exist just thinking about it gives me anxiety again like doomsday quotes yes and that guy sounds like a blast yes. He's he's stressing. He's like fan himself off. He has nothing to do with any of this is just like I have so much anxiety from people. I don't know what happened on like Friday. At what like maybe like the original revere thing. They like five or six o'clock. This guy was happy. Happy hour melting down like go to the bathroom to like Dab the sweat and everything she's freaking out go home. Kansas got notice all right We're gonNA take a break. We're GONNA come back. We're going to talk about Rick Pitino and Schumer Kiki and stuff. I quick Oh great to talk about Roman with two thirds of guys experiencing knows but here in Las Vegas thirty five most guys assume losing their hair is inevitable is age. Some don't care some shave their heads some embrace ask but what they don't know is that they're. FDA A approved medications designed to stop hair loss and even real hair. That's why we are excited to partner with our sponsor. Roman Roman makes it easy to get safe. 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Cows is you can say any any phrase whatsoever and it's some sort of Innuendo. It doesn't matter Rick Pitino his Lawsuit Against Louisville. He gets fired he. He believes it was a wrongful termination. This this is two years ago when when all this stuff out we should brought that up at the Kansas thing we're almost to the day the two year anniversary of the big news break. FBI is changing the landscape of college basketball almost to it. What was it the twenty six twenty seven or something like that. I was on a beach in Mexico when this broke and like I was theoretically working for the college basketball basketball side of the athletic and I was like Oh well you guys you didn't say this is very very serious and say happy hour and just because I was not that I did not write that there will not be an NCAA so Patino Gets Fire Louisville. He's he to even now. He still remains like the only casualty of all this. I believe I have to go back and really think about it. Who Else is reading account like book Richardson and the only the only head coach casualty there are other because Brian and Kevin got fucked by the whole thing too and maybe the only the only like name big name the we shall Lillard still got out. That's basically what I'm trying to say. Gottfried Gottfried is I guess. He got a but he's fine yeah. He got got his latest button and cal state back. Yeah Kyle will will be this cow carry water for Godfrey as long as he needs I do so Patino gets fired. He feels very hurt by this. E files a forty million dollar lawsuit in two thousand seventeen. That lawsuit has just been settled Rick Pitino. They decided it's not take this to court. Let's settle out of court. The terms of the settlement Patino gets nothing. This is not seem like a settlement the one hundred it cost him money lawyer fees he got nothing. The only thing he got was Louisville changed the terms of his his departure from a a termination to a resignation so technically quit he was not fired you can't you can't fire. I quit that's what he said and that was the only thing in the sediment and gave him nothing which tells me AAC that they presented like they had the big sit down. Let's have a settlement meeting. Both lawyers presented the evidence and Louisville presented. All the evidence against Patino Patino was like slow all right yeah. Let's not take this to trial. Let's just in this now. That's what that tells me. This is like a just reminds Michael Scott for some reason. He's live like him like saying David Wallace. You don't know how high yes yes and then he flies to Panathinaikos. Ingredients is he's like I you can you can settle this lawsuit but there will be another lawsuit and then another lawsuit another lawsuit. I'll sue you so is this like him. Just being able to put an asterisk Astra on his resume when he goes back stateside like what is that. I have no idea what the thought is. I it's it's I do. I do know what the thought is. There's two things with a guy like Pitino is he. He it's it's just an ego thing. He doesn't want someone to tell him that he isn't good enough and being fired idea in Rick Pitino had the idea of being fired coach which is incontrovertible. He's like I am one of the greatest coaches ever I. I know that I follow the rules. I don't know why no one else believes me but I follow the rules. I'm a great coach. The idea that someone would break up with me and tell me you're not good enough that doesn't sit well with me so I need that changed any that terminology changed and the other thing is like Patino and this is true of him and this is like as he was tweeting this today and this is an aside. He tweeted today about how he invented the concept of deflections forty years ago he he was the first coach I was like deflecting in the ball in defense is is actually good. this is a man who his brain is always wired to think about the game and even said this as all the scandal was first coming out and he gets fired and all that all of his defense is always seemed to be like. I never cheated the game of basketball. I gave the game of basketball. Everything I've you know all everything I had my blood sweat and tears like Rick. We know you love the game of basketball. You also gave the game of basketball. Hookers gave a basketball like like affairs Italian restaurants in fucking abortions. What are you talking about Rick. We know you love the game of basketball and that is how mind always works is like I. I respect the game. I don't understand why no one else sees that I respect the game. So so that's pretty much it is like he he doesn't understand. He's still to this day does not understand what the problem was with any of this because he's like. I I was the first embrace the press defense I it was the first embraced the three point line and I invented deflections and for some reason people think I'm a bad guy and I don't get why because I did all those things and just won the Greek Cup or something sure why does no one loved me and that's that's what he does every every night and I was thinking to do next you. What what do we think is next routine. Is it literally just he sits on twitter and talks. Ah Basketball Yeah maybe but I think he's going to get coaching job. I think back to the pride neo thing like I'm going to. I'm going to contradict like myself if this man can swallow his pride and and that's a big ask as I just said he will get another division one job if he wants it right. I don't not power conference. He just has to be able to be like yeah sure I'll coach in the sun belt. I mean like Larry Brown got one. I guess in like Larry Brown coaching to council originally definitively. I mean is only sixty seven still so he's got time. Ucla boosters wanted him like news never actually going to UCLA. The fact that like yeah yeah we forgot six. There's gotta be somewhere like will will take a chance on the guy I mean if I would want to just you know I know Oh that he wants to coach basketball and maybe maybe the best job for him is something like cal. State Northridge they fire out for even higher potato somewhere like UC UC riverside or something like that goes yes. He can go live on the beach. Go hang out like Rick. You've given the game of basketball enough you gave us. deflections elections gave us the press if godfried if it comes to the big. West in Godfried in Patino coaching against each other I I will move heaven and earth to sit courtside at that game. I will be the greatest. Oh my God oh. We always wanted him in Nevada so I mean maybe if things don't go so right for all. Steve I mean maybe we actually in Reno Second Corino good fit yeah. That's a really great idea actually took over full of great ideas. Look at this. Oh my God by the way the joint statement and and we'll move on for Patino they put out a joint statement after the settlement the university and Patino got together this this is this is one of the lines. It's not that fun fun on hyper up too much. He says although these infractions may not have occurred at coach Pitino direction or with his knowledge the problems leading to say fractions happened under his leadership and the point point of saying that is like even on the way out the door. Patino still find found a way to give one last. I take full responsibility but police understand I knew nothing of any illness and it's not my fault in any way when she performed but I also take full responsibility so man keep playing the history. We love you. Come back to college. Basketball we do casino is the best possible the answer here that he ends up on TV somewhere like Fox more tiresome. That'd be great. I think that actually is I mean it would be like the purest insight into ripped. Tino's breaks all honesty. The guy is a basketball savant. He's a genius. He's a great coach. He's an amazing coach like Louisville. Ah Chris Mecca Lot Louisville is going to be very good this year. It's not the same. It doesn't work for me. I needed what I turn on Louisville. I need to see the white suit coconut water and the Yeah and pressing and their Louisville's weren't like I need to see it all in I missed Rick Pitino. I really truly miss him. Not Just WanNa make jokes about him. Like Louisville part of why I love college basketball so much is that there's so many different styles and especially the NBA has has seemed to be getting more and more of the same style like everyone's doing the same thing which is fine. I love the NBA on I watch a ton of NBA two part of what makes college great to me is that all the different styles that exists and Rick Pitino had a very very unique style of basketball yeah that that he invented a he invented and he alone invented and to have that going on and you have like even acc alone you Carolina running up and down to you looked Lewis Press Yeah Virginia plain slows like Duke doing doing whatever growing the ball yeah just go ice o ball like everything about it was great and and Florida State plan like five seven footers at once and when they did that a couple helping your whatever it was this is it was great and to not have that brand basketball I mean I know other coaches tried to do it but no one can do it as well as Rick. Do we think the Pudding Rick Pitino we know on TV would be like a don't meet your heroes situation where like we get his like unfiltered thoughts as opposed. Semi filtered gets yeah. I feel like there'd be serious. Concerns earns there yeah it it it would go bought when Bob Knight was on Espn Holy. Shit like what have we done four. They thought it'd be fun to have like a semi controversial guy. They're like no this is. This is an absolute disaster starts yelling at kids. They sit down and we can see the play happening. Whatever happened with his podcast. Did it continue I think he did I I don't. I don't know I should know that you're talking about. Bob Knight for real concern is I think it's twitter background. Picture is still the Patino Press. That's why I don't know if he's continuing to pack that. He invented yeah. He invented the Patino print spots. spots puts our runway equate. We'll wrap this up. okay so your name be a guy. I'm just fascinated. We don't really need to discuss this. He's Richard this is this is this like 'cause. Turford like he wanted to get out of Auburn so badly that he just this is this is not a great look for Bruce Pearl inaugur that he he's left Auburn to not to not sign it so those are you look we should we should tell people what's going on for those that don't know no idea we tuckey is a guy like Auburn's he was was their best pro prospect probably their best player last year but maybe not but whatever had a massive game against North Carolina in the sweet sixteen in tears his acl towards the end of the game Knox Knox North Carolina out of the tournament. He gets drafted sixteenths to the magic. They just said that he's going to sit out the entire year because it's a lead his knee hill. Whatever but what's interesting is that he is not signing his rookie contract so basically the magic gives them more flexibility with money. It's great for the magics and Romney. They're close to the luxury tax. But why the hell would he do this. It starts because like your rookie deal sucks. It's set in stone right and then if you play well after your rookie deal then you can sign like Max deal or whatever you know you signed your big deal so you basically have to wait three years right. After you signed your rookie deal for four so you wait for the clock to start. He's not starting this clock. Basically yes and he's redshirt four where he's going to be on the magic. He's I think he's like registering for college. He's actually knocking to be on the magic. 'cause he's not signing his entry level. I'm trying to understand because as as an idiot doesn't know I watch NBA but I certainly don't know how all the pieces move in the front office of how is this. Why would he do this. Okay so so does this make sense. Get it and I don't understand it but I now don't understand the way you don't understand it. Why would he do this continue so most of at the time in these circumstances and I don't have like an intricate knowledge of what happened with Toomas case specifically but teams talked to prospects and agents agents and say hey. Are you willing to do this. Are you willing to do that. Most of the time it refers to second round picks because second round picks don't have a guaranteed contract structures right right so in order to retain rights to a player. If you draft a player in the first round you have to offer them eighty percent of their rookie okay contract right which is to guaranteed yours to team option years at the end If it's the second round pick you'd have to offer them a totally unguaranteed not one year contract tender basically so very few players sign that tender because there's no guarantee money right like your so someone like Colton Everson who played at Colorado state and many years ago the Celtics drafted him in the second round and for many years he has played in Europe up in his made like pretty good money in Europe. He's getting one hundred you know for example one hundred and fifty thousand dollars guaranteed to play in Europe versus zero dollars guaranteed play in the NBA so it makes more more sense for him to sign in Europe and continue to make that money that's what I did to Rice signed by the Blazers and then he was so devolved into Carmelo trate de Blur every year you know I don't know if John would know this necessarily but like dealer every year the rockets had to offer him a totally non-guaranteed tender for the the minimum contract. His agent probably turned down just John Wooden John Useless. He doesn't know anything about this but yeah so in this circumstance Komo Kiki. It's very rare to see I the only other circumstances that I can remember this is Josh eustis right for Oklahoma City and this was worked out ahead of time it was announced is basically like as he was drafted that this was going to be the plan that they were GonNa Session now with Oak Kiki. The fact that it has stretched on for three months after the draft has raised some eyebrows wide in terms of like. How exactly did this happen. Basically it's something that like I got told about. Maybe like July is something that was plausible but no one really knows like the exact inner workings of how this this ended up happening but the reason that aqui would consider something like this. I think it's a bad deal. I think that his agency should be ashamed but the idea behind it would be that. Oh Kiki is getting offered eighty percent of the rookie scale for the sixteenth pick in this year's rookie scale about two point one two million dollars I if he waits until nick season to sign I would bet you that Orlando is offering a one hundred and twenty percent rookie scale which is the maximum that you can offer in and it'll be on the twenty twenty. NBA Draft Rookie scale which is slightly higher okay so it'll be three point three million dollars so he'll be making one point one million extra owned by waiting potentially. This is my idea on what's happening. I don't have intimate knowledge on this. I just know the CPA works. Do I think this is a good plan. No I think that Chuma should take the eighty percent and start his clock to get the free agency because he's still making four million dollars. Guaranteed versus six million dollars guaranteed look like I understand that I'm not the person turning down two million dollars guaranteed but like I think it's just a lot more valuable valuable to start your free agency clubs. It feels like the exact opposite of betting on yourself whereas yes yeah a little bit yeah guaranteeing yourself more money in case this goes wrong. It doesn't heal right right yeah. It's not look I'm not GonNa sit here and say it's like the dumbest thing in the world not but like if I was that the agency I would have decided to go. I would be ashamed of myself as like I think it's the business smart to do with this. Bill your account. I Would Li Bank so if he waits he he still the lease Omega eighty percent of next year weights. He'll make probably I would guess if a fuck yeah like hey remember that one twenty it's going to be like more like eighty theoretically do that but you can't get any lesson that I think he's Rep by. CA So Orlando won't do that. It's not worth creating an enemy with so yeah. It's a convoluted deal. to me like the idea of getting your free agency clock started earlier being a free agent wherein twenty twenty two versus twenty twenty three or whatever the years would be. That's that's a lot more valuable to me but you know I'm not the one getting offered two million dollars extra essentially. Can we spend this in this. Make this battling Bruce Pearl. That's really all I want is just yeah yeah like this this Red Shirt for Bruce Pearl the NBA he could have stuck around and and been around the Auburn Program but instead he's like I want to go to the NBA for free and not actually signed my rookie deal and yeah 'cause. I won't out of Auburn so badly tough. Look for bruce bad loss anytime I could shit on Bruce Borough. I WanNa take that opportunity speaking of the speaking of next year's draft. Wha- What is real quick. You're the draft. Guru we we had you on leading up to this draft and yeah it was great so going into this season. What are we looking for. Who James Wiseman a guy who's the guy we only care about the top don't Boris middling guys except for Nico love him. Yes love to hear that I would say. There are three guys that stand out for me right now. Call Anthony Anthony Edwards word North Carolina Georgia. We are going to tell everybody 'cause Georgia. Our listeners are idiots Anthony Edwards and James Watson Memphis now three and play for the top taking your opinion right now for me. Yeah I mean a lot of basketball left to be played folks like for instance like John. Cavani who is awesome joy John a lot like wrote a big thing. Lamelo ball all earlier today and said that he's according to NBA Scouts that he's talked to a contender for the number one overall pick now mum. I think Mel's awesome if you saw them play at the drew this summer out here in la La like he looked really fucking good do. I think that he is in play for that yet. I want to see him in like a non preseason. NBL event like he had a great set of two games in what is called the NBA blitz over struts essentially like this preseason event then where they get the season going. I want to see what it looks like more. That's a great name straight. NFL bullets fucking intense go out there and get the hell out of each other extreme basketball. It's getting real physical so yeah. I WANNA see more from mellow. Well I think mellows awesome like he's an incredibly talented player in Aspen and he's now like six six six seven. That's hilarious that he's that he's this good because for so many people and certainly most of our Audience Bahamian particular he will always be the kid that the one video him when he was like fourteen. Yeah Jack it up like forty footers an air ball and everything and just had swag swag was at one hundred skills where like three and one of the funniest videos ever if that guy goes on to become the number one pick. It's going to be great the the draft it'd be fantastic the draft coverage of of metabolic just the memes coming out as well. Wolf Lavar out there yeah wild. I'd love it yeah so this here is a heavily international year to okay yeah. I would say that there are seven or eight guys that they're yourself now for a lot of a lot of takes aches from people that haven't watched a second. It's going to be a lot of youtube highlight. Yes yeah so like it's going to be nationally. Put it onto one episode. Surrey can rant about this. This is this is my number. This is the whole I'm GonNa. I'm GonNa say this again. Just for some reason people don't understand this. We're making fun of Luca into that trap heat night. Just made fun of Jeff Jeff of but the joke was not that we didn't we would never seen Luca sucks. We're saying we haven't watched him. Play neither as anybody else to shut the hell up. All the people have slurping If you don't love Luca you just love the idea of a white guy in Europe kind of Pudgy being greater basketball. That's what he loves to be honest thousand and so. We just made fun of everyone. Everyone was like dome and the guy out before you gotTa America which was hilarious but he's great. He's good now. We we like him now. Though Jalen Brunson came out of the pods of Luca with not even started in the Villanova team that won twenty sixty two. I love that tha not true but I love that took those the twenty. Eh Twenty eight thousand teams what he meant that was the draft obviously if so is Anthony Edwards. That's the guy that my own because he's a cream guy. Do Christmas line too close to the sun getting He's he's big recruiting class Tommy Korea. I feel like the the hammer in home the I. Coach Dwayne Wade. I coach Victor all the depot now. Anthony Edwards includes lines coach Tom Prichard Anthony Edwards is next in line to be the victims of the depot Dwayne Way. That's what he's banking on on. This is going to be a third. He's like Thanos collecting the stones. This is the third one right but this feels feels kind of scary. I don't know anything about Anthony. I just know the Georgia basketball's. Ask not the greatest. I- i- everyone's telling me Anthony Edwards is great so I hope out this is the case but is there a chance this is like a Markelle full situation where like Georgia actually he sucks. Anthony Edwards is like good belay not that great and then Thomas fuckers. My plan a little bit. I really great when it comes to development element like any. NBA Scout you talked to any coach. They'll say like no. I think Tom Actually does a really good job. Developing kits yeah Anthony Edwards in high school. He has been this like remarkable power athlete like the clip that has gone around and gone viral with Anthony Edwards. is him like baptizing Johnny Zang. Who's is going to Kentucky here. Yeah like ended. This kid's life Pangasius like Dot Lee was coaching on the sidelines and I looked at dog in Doug gave like the stink face like looking away from the play because he was like Oh my God no he just happened. Doug was looking at his mentions from his tweet. This is weird time uh-huh so Anthony Edwards like he's the power athlete who can get into the lane and do all the stuff. He hasn't really been asked to do a lot of skill stuff in high leverage situations yet and like his team didn't win on a games ooh like there's just like a little bit. I think he's he's going to be great. I'm a big fan of him but to say that this is like a guarantee you know Georgia's a top three team in the country or whatever I don't know I was. I was a fan of Anthony Edwards again to reiterate. I've watched none of these guys except Neekam highlights. That's about the extent of my coverage of recruiting classes. I proudly you do not follow the recruiting but Anthony Edwards. I was excited about the idea of him because that's always the take. Is that the number. One recruit is not actually the best player so oh. I was excited in like July June or whatever because James Weisman's normal guy he's the he's pennies big guy. He's got the job before being honest the bride's so he's the guy but the galaxy brain looks at the scene and says no no no the number one guys not the number one guy. We actually have to go down a little bit when I picked Anthony Edwards words but then I noticed that everyone else was talking about anthony like I don't know anymore. I think I think you're right on that like James Watson's number one guys when the awards and everything the guy's going to be most productive active and college basketball's coal anthony I would. I wanted to talk to you about him in. Let's just move on to I was the question I was going to average twenty points six assist the rebound saying I keep saying to trigger. I Have Seen Coal Anthony Highlights. I lied. I cheated on Nicole a little bit and watch because as soon as as soon as Ohio State Carolina got paired up the big thing I got to know more about Karl Anthony the DJ Carton called Anthony. Things could be awesome. Dj's start but like we'll see he's GonNa Start. He's the best player on the team. He's he's. He's amazing Kotecha. Please so I was the thing I say about coal. Anthony Trigger North Carolina Carolina fans is that he's Austin rivers. I have some Austin rivers. I Have Austin rivers vibes. He's a privileged kid growing up in like he's he. He thinks he's bigger than the school that he's playing for. I get that not a lot of talent around him. Per Se not as much as you would expect for a North Carolina China yeah where he's at. He's just going to do everything himself. I get her though okay yes yes. I don't think I don't think it is I. I don't think it's accurate. I get where you're coming from. the reason that I say that is because he's been just like ridiculously productive every single place. He's been like you have triple double last year. Kill like yeah like he went to Nike Basketball Academy. This summer like waters probably a week two weeks before my wedding and August esten lying. He was the best player they're like caches. Winston was there like yoga as a bouquet was there all these like elite level college basketball players were there and he was the best guy like he was just diamond guys all over the core thrown pocket passes thrown by cross corner whips. Goddamn like he's like the thing that people fool complain about with him is like that Austin rivers thing where they say like Oh. This guy is like all about himself. He's not about winning. Score points really think that's true. I think people just it's kind of want to like pick holes. He's I think he's really good God. I hate about coins. Yeah I've been. I've been very very excited about Carolina how stain because it just feels like A. I don't know I've built I I. I'm usually not on how people give me chiffre talking about. How stayed on here all the time but I'm not a house. They say no. I don't talk I don't. I'm not the guy that at every season I'm like I think we're going to be really good this year. I'm very very excited about this. Ohio state team though so man. DJ EJ cards a big reason why but like you said I don't know if he's GonNa actually start to start right away but they cj Walker from Florida like they have lease definitely. Dj Cards definitely the Best Player on on Austin milestone. I think long term whether or not he's there like for the North Carolina game so I myself up into that being the time. TJ Carton Call Anthony Showdown. Dj Dj Carton gets the best of them in Chapel Hill and then just ecstatic and that's what I tell us I mean I know it hasn't been anything I know excited. I last last year was last year too long years yeah. It's been a while so you're going to be better off there were last year. I think anything else before you I don't know about uh-huh I have. I have well we got. We got to do some shoutouts Joey Hauser. I saw this file to transfer waiver to be eligible for Michigan State immediately. He transferred from Marquette Kyle. You know this guy as we make the joke about Marquette that mark that they're the two brothers that Marquette G- GONNA probably be topped team coming into season and Marcus Howard our They're the best score marquette average like twenty five Russia. He says he's coming back and everyone was like Oh shit. Marquette is going to be unbelievable this year. They might be top five team. Whatever and then like three days later the house or brothers that we're getting the hell out of here because Howard Beck one of them went to Michigan State. He's now wants to transfer waiver the whole reason and this is hilarious because Michigan state as we said is going to be really good this year and it's my understanding. He has zero grounds for this waiver whatsoever other than just like. I really WANNA play this year. Come on they let me play. I have no idea I don't know why it'd be eligible. I don't know I just wanted to read. 'em Emotional distress mark Howard chucking this this has become a problem the the transfer waivers like so many people are throwing them out there that I do. WanNa make jokes about it but I know I'm GonNa get burned on one of these. Were like I'm GonNa. I'm GonNa joke about like Oh. This guy wants a waiver and then like dude his his brother has cancer. Just give them all yeah. Give them all waivers. Pay The players the players the other thing I wanted to say is A. Ucla football scored sixty seven points against Washington. We actually watching this game to go kind of on your phone. Florida at the bar and mccrone is Ucla's head basketball coach so ucla basketball will not score sixty seven points in any game this year over under the fifteen games where they score sixty seven points. I'm taking the under whatever it is with Cronin. I'm taking the under under including height related things like that. you mentioned your wedding. We'll wrap it up with this. We gotTa Talk About Your Wedding. I went to your wedding. I briefly. I don't remember remember if I told us on the podcast maybe I maybe I did. Maybe I didn't hear now. I'll say it again. I just WANNA. I just WanNa Brag that you and I went on a fifty nine to nothing in cornhole rally. I did say this fifty nine so let's wrote again. Shrinks talk about fifty-nine nothing. Kyle just rolled folks yeah. That's all there's that's all we really need you in Cleveland. I know yeah you were videotaping because this hilarious that was that was a that was so good time I was going to tell another story. Everybody surly married probably not still married. We're out a month yeah. What what do you want to get into the store. Is I mean what does We don't need to specifics call. You'll love the store. There's a guy and there's a guy at the wedding that site. I sat next to him. I was at his table. He had his sights set on so it's the same wife. I don't know if I could divulge as much like Sam's wife. If was a an athlete. She has a lot a lot of the the women that came to weddings. were also athletic builds. Attract attractive women that right so this guy sitting next to has a sights set on like the one put on a pedestal right away and he's telling me like locked in her. I'm locked in and then so I was like sure like He. He almost was like asking me. Is that okay like. Is that what I'm locked in. Do you want her to. I'm like Bro. No Watch this year for the open bar. You're like I'm going to get out of here but so he's like cool. I'm locked in so the whole night like the side the side story for me watching this. We're playing Cornell having fun at the wedding every so so often. If I kind of felt like I was bored or something I would just turn and look at the guy in watches pursuit and it was going horribly. It was like I felt like I should step in and say something like is. He bothered like it was one those situations Mike. It looks like to me. I like went over to one of her friends and I was like this. This is the problem she was like no. It's fine like yeah totally. Go don't worry about it and I was like okay. Her body language was was like get this fucking guy away from me. So then I started watching more because I was like Shit Dude. I might have to kick his ass or something. I might be the hero in all this. I don't know yeah right. I think I might be interested after all interest so I I I'm kind of keeping an eye on this as the night progresses. She starts to get into more. Oh no no yes field it. Yes I'm like hold on. Wait a second long story short. It happened what Yes yes long story resort the greatest it was the greatest comeback I've ever yes see seven point win. It was one of the greatest comeback I've ever seen in my life back to our or that so we go back to my place like the after all star that starts like call. There are probably twenty five people in my apartment. Jesus you fit twenty people in there yeah. Nice Porch Ns Yeah that's exactly right so he falls asleep on my couch. Whatever they get back he or she he okay now. She's just out having to get to okay and he wakes up and then like rallies rallies and then seals the do and seals the deal my guy in my bathroom. Oh Oh my God that had already been vomited. It was the greatest comeback one of the greatest comebacks and we should we should read everything was constituent. No funny the business just for anyone listening it was this is not a story of of smoke and mirrors or solicit. It was a story of like a man just just would refuse to lose refusing to lose and then the woman saying you know what you are pretty charming after all yeah what story what am I believe is. It's so anyway Sam. This is good. Thank you thank you for for stopping by. You got anything else to add before you folks that's it. We'll be back next week. Thanks for listening the the Bruce Pearl Brazilian uh-huh.

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Mystery behind viral video of woman with dementia dancing to Swan Lake

The Current

07:37 min | 5 months ago

Mystery behind viral video of woman with dementia dancing to Swan Lake

"I'm tired host of ideas in this age of click bait and online shouting ideas is a meeting ground for people who want to deepen their understanding of the world. Join me as we crack. Open a concept to see how it plays out over place time and how. It matters today from the rise of authoritarianism to the history of cult movies. No idea is off. Limits ideas is on the cbc. Listen or wherever you find your podcasts. This is a cbc podcast. Have you seen this video. That is floating around online video of an older woman in a wheelchair using her arms to dance. The swan lake ballet. You see her moving her arms to the music and then you see scenes of the russian ballerina will liana lot qena in full costume performing on stage. It really is is quite something if you haven't seen it. The video was originally posted by spanish organization and promoting music therapy for people with memory loss dementia and alzheimer's disease in two weeks. It's racked up well over a million views on youtube. It's been shared with millions more by celebrities like antonio vendettas and jennifer garner. Is this older woman in the video. And is she is so many people believe a long lost ballet master well like all things. There is more to this than meets the eye this macauley. I'm a critic and historian at the performing arts and a lot of social media. And i often find. I do a lot of research in social media and find out a lot of odds and ends about the performing arts that i so love. This sometimes has a drawback that all kinds of people who are interested in the performing arts contact me about all kinds of odds and ends some of which are a pain in the neck. And on monday. I kept on being notified about this video. That emerged of not dead. Dancer called mata cinta gonzalez sudan the point. The video was not about her career but simply about the effect of music to bring back memory movement in somebody afflicted with dementia possibly alzheimer's and it's a very moving to you. Know quite knows how this woman is and she seems to have lost the use of her legs loan since but the therapist. If that's the right word for him is holding her hand and he plays some of the most famous music in salt lake. Da da da da da da which has a visceral effect on almost anybody and as she starts to hear it. Marta cinta as she seems to have been known response not just casually but she knows swamp type movement. Because i was getting this video from all kinds of people. I don't i better respond So i just analyzed. It thought. People were starting to project. This is an important lost ballerina. Who had gone into dementia. But there's absolutely no certainty that this was an important professional dancer. What i didn't notice that. I that actually the video then changes. Music is very charming and helpful. Therapist holds a hand and he then plays music from a different part of swan lake. That i'm on bamboo shampoo and she responds but she carried on doing swung movement to attend surveyed touching. If you know the bali then you wouldn't be doing swan movement at that part of swan lake. It's a happy when nobody has brought swans into the story anyway. So i published what i knew. I began to hear from people on twitter. Facebook and instagram. Some of whom knew a little bit of course researched what they could so they sent in documentation will not quite clear where martha was born but she seems to have had ended her life in spain and the people who looked after her love they were in that they just knew that she had talked of being about nina even prima ballerina. Now the question is wes had she been a ballerina. And if you're a balance snob. The wet prima ballerina has very important significance. It looks as if she was prima ballerina of a very small or unknown company. Sometimes it was called the ballet de las americas and it may have been a minor company in cuba but there is a ballet de las americas in bogota colombia and also the name of the folkloric company in mexico. So who knows. Nobody has yet come forward with any identification of her past but she also had documents that should that she had become the choreographer and in her teens she made sixteen eighteen. Maybe twenty pieces over different names. You had a list of them and she had press clippings talked about them being performed in cuba one or more being done in america and one or more the prospect of being done in europe. It is very touchy. And i moved to think of this therapist working with at the end of her life. It may well be that. The lockdown is look a little screens more and spin stories. I did it. It's also very touching that all of us are experiencing so much more isolation than we ever have in our lives. And there's this woman who in one sense is in total isolation. She has a past about which she can no longer really speak. She can't tell anybody at home just what rose were. Her choreography was how long she was in cuba. How long she was in america. We just had these few documents about. It's ironic people in our more curious about probably than they were ever house. Makala is the former dance critic for the new york times over the weekend. The spanish outlet l. Espanol unearth new details about martinez life. It appears that she was born in spain in the mid nineteen twenty s but her. Id also seems to have been falsified. Some former students have come forward and it does appear that she worked and taught and cuba new york and spain over the years. Marta santos gonzalez died in march but left quite a puzzle behind and left a lot of people talking as well about the power of music. If you go to our twitter feed you have to be on twitter if you just go to twitter type in the current cbc. You can see some of the photos of marta by alastair and others as well as more of this ongoing mystery for more. Cbc podcasts go to cbc dot ca slash podcasts.

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272. 25 aniversario de la creacin del mp3 | #ArqueologaPodcastera

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05:48 min | 4 months ago

272. 25 aniversario de la creacin del mp3 | #ArqueologaPodcastera

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Tinto Cao Me Now

Mo Wine - Wine, Mishaps and More

11:55 min | Last month

Tinto Cao Me Now

"If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast lending slain. It's free the creation tools that allow you to record. Edit your podcast right from your phone or your computer inc. Will distribute your podcasts for you so to be heard on spotify apple podcast and many more you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make podcast in one place. Download the free anchor app ago. Anchor that fm to get started. Hello and welcome to mow wine wind mishaps and more i am your host challenges savage. I can't believe that we are in march. Can you believe it march ready. I'm excited that night. I'm excited about the wind tonight. Because even though primarily it is a blend of one of the reasons why wanted to tease. This particular line is for one of the groups that i wanted to explore and share with you that i'm going to be highlighting tonight said tonight we are tasting the twenty six teen confidencial reserve Cow from the douro vert region of portugal. And i'm excited about it. I was doing a little research just making sure. I wasn't forgiving. Anything of mitee splits. When playing tricks on me. And i i learnt today. I'm going to share my learnings with you all this evening. That tinto cow literally means red dog in portuguese people. We didn't even get into the wind. I'm already giving you gyms or ready. And i got mistake last week last week. I had to take applies. But i'm back on the blizzak so and it said it is to get back into the world now. This wine gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous color. it's like deep garnet. It's clear it's it. Looks super sexy I feel like. I should have undersold grow drinking wine. Say that allowed But yeah i wanna keep it to it. That's giving to the nose because the knows always news so it's more neutral on the knows that i would have anticipated but there is some me like tart cherry but there's also a lot of morality in this wine as well as smells like there's a lot of a lot of other stuff in there but also some like pepper pepper corn something like that but Air yeah this definitely. is almost like metallic a little bit is the smell but big big pepper in big cherries coming through. So let's tasted stunning. Just stunning looking at the bottle. And a mike. I want to mention this a couple of weeks ago. I started having a conversation about the point system. Those of you in the wine world know that robert parker started the point system in you know people get hung up on that so much so that he manipulated the wine world in wineries all over to change some of the recipes just so he could give them a rating with his point system and so they sell more wine. So i always feel like. I wanna go against the grain is just me my nature to go against the grain but this wine is a ninety point wines from wine spectator. It's worth its weight in gold than you know. I'm just gonna have to join. The last is on this one. But it's just so dope is a dope adila. Pass wine cell- You know it is a dry red but not super dry medium. acidity tannin's of prominent messing crazy is definitely some oak in there. But like you know nothing nothing that would take away from the beauty of the flavor of the wine it just enhances it enhances it very full body wind. Luscious love it all of that good fruit and pepper going together and i always love that combination in lines. That's like one of the things i learned about myself. While i was developing my talent is just. I always have gravitate towards winds that have more pepper spice a little bit a tightness indefinitely the fuller body ones. I love and i appreciate in. Its nothing too crazy in the alcohol. Content is thirteen point size. Which is nothing crazy. But i was trying to think about what makes some grape varieties like is to grand fame and while sam like play back a little bit so tell is Was almost like because it doesn't you know produce a lot of yields in portugal so but they. It has found some resurgence in australia. And some parts of america so they've been blending them blending it with other parties in in it's slowly Snidey is not ready to die yet. Thank god that it isn't because this is anonymous. So what would i pair with this line. And you know a lot of time in like oh Meats like beef sir line or but it's true some things just go together. I mean think about the millions and millions of different wines. There are in the world and some cesco better with meat intake about irregular peanut butter and jelly sandwich right. There's many many many different flavors of jelly. There's meant this apricot. there's peach strawberry. There's rhubarb big jelly as well but only grape jelly pairs best with peanut. Butter is a universal fact in kind of the same thing with the boulder red wines. You mean you need a little bit of beef. But you know. Never fear from ed vegetarians out there. I could definitely see this paired with some sauteed spinach with a little bit of olive oil and some mushrooms of compared with some or prepared with some worcestershire sauce. And then it would be phenomenal in. You can have it with that in. Everyone would be happy. But you don't necessarily need of food pairing for this wine. You could definitely enjoy this at home just you your friend bottle better have a little bit of air in just enjoy a nice evening enact on to go into like oh you should have some brief short ribs. We're not going to do that tonight tonight. This is a cool classy sexy wine aka the red dog in portuguese. And i'm glad to get to share that story with you. You never stop learning. Never stop learning. So i am going to leave some gems in the show notes. I'm going to share my referral code with you from the library. Where i where i was able to purchase his lovely ball this evening so you could share in some of the savings shipping. Wine is very extensive. And so if i could save you a little bit coinage That you know. All about mike lanes. I like to keep my clients. I want you to keep some of your points and enjoy this beautiful bottle of wine as well so imparting if any value please light share telephone fan to come on by visit me on into webs at more wine view. Instagram twitter facebook. Let me know in the comments if you were able to find some Cinta kau in bet me know what she thought about it. I also want to know if he found some from australia because they haven't seen that yet. But i know that it exists to have to a little bit more digging. But i am going to see you next week. Or you're going to hear me next week. And i'll have another something special some mat to share with you so i wish you good night chow the.

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268. Storytelling para podcasts: cmo contar historias que enganchen? en @cyberclicknet

Al otro lado del micrófono

07:12 min | 5 months ago

268. Storytelling para podcasts: cmo contar historias que enganchen? en @cyberclicknet

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Why is the Earth Round?

Imagine This

08:18 min | 2 years ago

Why is the Earth Round?

"This is an ABC putt cost. Hello? My name's Bray. And here on a mention, these we get lots of questions about out of space. It sounds like you all want to Nari about the stars and the universe and the planets. Just like this question from three Rhode's Zoe about a very own Planeta. Why. Around Mike, I'm bored. So he's question is about the shape of our earth. She wants to know why the earth is round like a bowl, what is a bowl shape that goes? Thank oh, it does look like a circle, but as a special name for a bowl shape and it's cold a sphere. Can you say, sphere, FIA fee? It sounds like the word FIA, but it starts with a safe. He knows what the letter service might be. Yep. The words via starts with the letter essays. Yes. Feel with an s. FIA this is round and c-can roles like a mob. A mobile is a species type just like Planeta sir. How did earth get that round shape con- you won't mold at boldly? Do you think someone rolled the earth into a bowl shape. They need gains can do that. A giant, maybe a giant roll. The earth into a boat got white night shows, ask planet signs that, no, that's a good idea. Let's ask our friend just Cinta den Besta. She's a physicist from the university of Melbourne. Maybe she can answer some about questions. Hi, Jim Cinta Helder just enter. Hell come out. Earth is round like a sphere and not some other shape. The earth is round because of something coke, gravity. Gravity. Have you heard of gravity before. Laverty. What do you think gravity is? Isn't a fourth, a kind of fourth, where it hold you on earth. Uh-huh. Gravity on earth is the force. It's making us day on the ground, pulling us towards the earth. So we can't really see gravity, but we can feel it. We can feel it when we jump up in the air, you will jump palm. And then you go down and if you throw a bowl up into the air. Gravity will pull it back down again. Yup, gravity is a pooling false. Could you imagine if it wasn't pulling us down, everyone just go up. And he couldn't drink mil-. The milk would just go out of the book. Three. Well, I'm glad that gravity is keeping my feet on the ground and my milk in my milk bottle. So what are we being pulled to woods? This interview earth is pulling us towards it. Oh, the center of the earth is pulling us. Yup. I wonder what's in the center of the earth. I'm delighted if the. Dicamillo love and nine properly. GIS the spirit in the middle? Yeah. Yeah, are always wanted to Nari what's in the center of the earth treasure crystals diamonds. What's in Jason to it? It's liquid, but it's really dense. So with rock, if you pressurize at Simon should becomes what we call molten liquid. Wow. So the center about earth is hot molten liquid rock. That's really, really heavy, and I wrote is really big too, right? Yeah. How big do you think the earth is? One hundred big. Has a Bod, I think, gets fended. They. Really, really, sir. How does gravity, Mike, how big heavy earth turn into a bowl because the bigger the object, the bigger the pool and the big avec pool of the gravity is the more round. The shape will be saw. The earth's gravity is such a strong force. It can pull the whole world together into a bowl shape. That's correct. But why does the earth pull itself into a triangle shape because a round bull shape is the easiest shape to make in-space. Could you imagine the earth trying to be a triangle. I'm trying to a triangle, but it's just too pointy. Could you imagine if the earth tried to be a square? I'm trying to be a square and it's really, really hard. Hey, earth. Just relax. Don't try and have points or sides. Just let gravity pull everything towards the center and making nice round, even full shape. You don't even have to try. That's much better. Size are we? The interesting thing about your question is that it's not just planet earth. That is a round like a ball. There are lots of shapes in out of space that are fees plu. Plu. Yup, the planets, the moon, the stars even l. son is a giant sphere, and they all get that shape because gravity is pulling them into a bowl from the center. An out earth is pulling us towards at center. So even though we can't see it, we can feel gravity every day when we walk would jump or throw something up in the air. Because even if things go up for a little bit. Eventually gravity will bring them back down again. Planet. Imagine this is produced by me. Brianna Peterson, and is a co production between the conversation an ABC kids. Listen, additional sound and mastering for this episode is by Bryce Holliday twohey more episodes of imagine these plus a range of stories and music for young children. Download the ABC kids. Listen up.

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Cafena Express 02 - Tretas no Open Source, Tendncias 2021 e Larissa Manoela

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12:27 min | 3 months ago

Cafena Express 02 - Tretas no Open Source, Tendncias 2021 e Larissa Manoela

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Cadence: Ubers Workflow Engine with Maxim Fateev

Software Engineering Daily

56:54 min | 1 year ago

Cadence: Ubers Workflow Engine with Maxim Fateev

"A workflow is an application that involves more than just a simple request response. Communication for example. Consider a session of a user taking a ride in an uber. The user initiates the ride and the Reid might last for an hour at the end of the ride. The user is charged for the ride and Cinta transactional email throughout this entire ride. There are many different services and database tables being access to cross the Uber Infrastructure. The transactions across this infrastructure need to be processed despite server failures which might occur along the way workflows are not just a part of Uber. Many different types of distributed operations at a company might be classified as a workflow banking operations spinning up a large cluster of machines performing a distributed. Krahn Job Maxime. Fattayev is the founder of temporal dot. Io and the CO creator of cadence a workflow orchestration engine maxime developed cadence. When he was at Uber. Seeing the engineering challenges that come from trying to solve the workflow orchestration problem before Uber. Maxine worked at aws on the simple workflow service which was also system for running workflows. Altogether Maxime has developed workflow software for more than a decade. So he knows a thing or two about this. It was a great show with a highly experienced engineer in the domain of workflows. You probably do not enjoy searching for a job. Engineers don't like sacrificing their time to do phone screens and we don't like doing whiteboard. Problems and working on tedious take home projects. Everyone knows the software. Hiring process is not perfect. But what's the alternative triple bite? Is the alternative. Triple Bite is a platform for finding a great software job. Faster Triple Bite. Works with four hundred. Plus Tech Companies Including Dropbox Adobe Core Sarah and cruise automation triple bite. Improves the hiring process? 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This means that they work with lots of people from non-traditional an unusual backgrounds to get started. Just go to triple by dot com slash s daily and take a quiz to get started. There's very little risk and you might find yourself in a great position getting multiple on site interviews from just one quiz and a triple bite interview. Go to triple by DOT com slash. Se daily to try it out back. Thank you to triple bike maxine AF. Welcome to the show. It's great to be here. Thank you there's a type of procedure that occurs in software that is often referred to as workflow. What is a workflow? That is a very interesting question because it's very different. People have very different opinions on that. I personally think that workflow is practically any program. The takes more than just request reply practically program which has inherent state which goes beyond a single request reply and the Union diminish that state and it can be short-lived but it can be very long leaf execution. Most people don't think about walk this way. They see workflows just sequence of steps in shop light various malls set of scenarios. But when you start thinking about vauclause as practically any program which goes beyond single request reply. Start seeing bookstores everywhere. So you can think about like Uber Uber. For example of three as a workflow you can start. Thinking about cheapen driver is a separate workflow. You can start thinking as bike rental like for example if you look at some bikes as a workflow at the same time you can have Customer Loyalty Program when you for example your airline and you have airline points. Managing those points is technically a workflow. Because you listen to events there is state which links reefs for a long time practically for the lifetime of a customer and then this state needs to take some action based on number of points you talk or based on time for example once year you need to give some present. Lavar those points based on what I would business. Logic is so practically almost every distributed brick business application from infrastructure to Mason to I duNno events. In event processing can be fought as workflow. I love that definition. The idea that you can define it as something that is goes beyond a simple request response and architecturally. It sounds like a workflow is a set of services that are interacting with one another. This is generally how we're going to be modeling a workflow. Would you say that attackers workflow architecturally is it? A series of services that are going to be calling each other. I think it's just one way to implement workflows because you can have flown in monolith you can have single monolith which implemental factions and these action suit practically orchestrated by the workflow. They just steps and absolutely these days. A lot of those actions live in services. If you have service architecture you absolutely need workflows to orchestrate the operations there at least perations go beyond single requested. Apply but the absolutely can have workflow in the single binary in this monolithic application. Because you need to manage your state over some period of time the example you gave of a jump bike. I think this is a nice little example so I've rented a bike before I walk up to the bike. I do something like scanning. Qr Code the bike on locks and my session begins. And I can go ride my bike around for a while and then eventually I lock up the bike somewhere else. The session ends and eventually I'm going to be charged for that. And so that's a very long lived workflow. It's well I mean whatever depending on how long the bike ride is or how you define long. But it's going to be five or ten minutes at least of me riding the spike. And eventually I'm getting paid. And so maybe the workflow takes fifteen minutes altogether and it's got some services that are calling each other on Uber's back end. Why does it even matter that I define this thing as a workflow? I mean we know that there's just GonNa be some session of me riding the spike and it's going to be modelled on the back end somehow. Can't we just think of it as this collection of services? Why do we need this? Abstraction this idea of the workflow model it around so I think there are multiple Christians. I is what flow from business sense not from having lament that and I think independently how it's implemented is still a workflow because you have multiple operations which tied together with some state vs go over to the time and a lot of those make sense on certain state of the process and you need to also be part of that Israel ability as if you're on this program over periods of time. Upper ability of computers go in Down Oh heaven outages and infrastructure issues. So new deployments going on is pretty high so you need to deal ability. You need to make sure that. The system is robust against failures. So independent how it's implemented you implementing the longer onion business process vishnu to be robust against failures and then there have been waste implemented. And what you describe this kind of the way people do that. They just practically educate sports for different components to provide the ability. If you just don't use existing engine like flow engine you what you would do. You would just use cues. You'll use databases you would maybe use sometimes service so just pulled it a base for messages state and you will kind of dry to assemble that business workflow as a bunch of independent services. And it's usually big pain to do that. And then if you have existed in kind of infrastructure to do that like workflow engine then you certainly neutering them. That really just implement business logic. And how did this workflow management cause issues at Uber because you you originally built this or helped build this workflow engine called cadence at Uber. What kinds of issues did it? 'cause when you did not have a single system to help you manage the workflows. I think the man problem causes is that everyone reinvents the wheel and this wheel is not very easy to invent is the way I can see it. Is that imagine the rare times then databases where into thing? Every program would go and write to disk and write back to disk and keep records and certain format and implemental the necessarily queer logic then databases way invented. And now if you're trying to build business application and you say not going to use database I right like I dunno records myself and carry them and join them myself and they write the whole engine to do that. People think the crazy and I think we have the same right now. Is these type of applications which are at least in business sense of workflows that everyone reinvents the wheel? Everyone will try to come off his some system. We suppose the requirements but then Requirements change or lower than the system. Bill or you need to add monitoring into Ability to troubleshoot things in production and all of that of these a hot things very invention reinvention rebating them every time and this is exactly what kittens was tried to solve. It tried to solve this. Et Coke walk floor solutions to replace them because now developers don't you to spend today's in years kind of fixing their ad hoc solutions leaking just use existing platform and practically just focus on their business logic and the platform would take care of the reliability in all other aspects of Iranian I load and highly reliable production system. Okay great well just to go a little bit more thoroughly into the high level goals of which is this workflow orchestration engine that you've worked on. What is the purpose of cadence? Sucrose of cadences actually is pretty. I'm vicious it's actually redefine. How you build distributed applications. Obviously it's not possible. Dissertations varies a certain set of use cases which fielded pretty well but very very large set of use cases which feeds it. And every time you have something like as I said which is workflow which has stayed and state which leaves beyond Singler Play. And it's not just crap right obviously if you just save information region information and so in the screen where is not much of the workflow there but if you're doing something convenient for like for example order processing or I don't know sign up flow of customers up slow support ticket saw. It has kind of multi-stage state and that is the problem. Tries to solve. And what kinds of failures can occur. When you're talking about modeling these workflows and making them easier to work with if we don't have a workflow orchestration engine. What are the kinds of problems that are going to occur? Oh let's look at the kind of simplest they. I think. Let's start from the basics right now. Most of the code we write is kind of like at least piece of code is plumbing is not literally business logic. Think about like Pasta and had later no Microsoft word processor which wasn't where based you will die text and then you forget to suppress eighth what you computer crashes so you head to press save button very frequently and right now you type into the new version of Microsoft Word Google Doc. You don't even have button there because it definitely applaud to the cloud the same thing as a use case which declared workflow because practically every time something curious computer system because member of the computer system in the computer which executes it can go down any time pressure what engineers do a press the save button after every state transition in the cold and practically every time you do something to Lord state from database you need to update that stating to save it back and it's practically the first failure you have to deal with is actual failure of the process Schranz. You're called and the way we do that again. This checkpoint in that state every every time and we do it manually practically every time you get a request you load from the state from database. Yup did that state. You Save it back then. You can reply back to the customer or for example even worse if the system used to make those tim call to another system. If this is not a simple call which can die. Mountain millisecond exit can potentially a long time or if it systems down and you took retrials for a long time. You're fracturing into checkpoint you'll state that you're probably intent or I'm going to call that system then you to set set records in the database saying that this is time out of my call so if I crash load that in verified these call company donut. Then you need to make a call. Then you need to practically wait. Asynchronous leave for the completion and then completion comes. You will need to process that results again laden state from database and process in that and saving bag and then also in you to pull on this timers practice records to time out the call and this is just one call but if you need to the expense tries if you do multiple calls if you're new to chain those calls this logic becomes extremely hot and the practically the mean type of failure. Engineers walk with is the failure of the actual process beach around the call and then obviously as we are live in an imperfect world. Then you'll his failures of other systems for they make a call. That cold can fail so those systems can be down. It can be done for very long. Time can be down for seven days so that is another type of fatal vision. Need to deal with. And then you need to run in some systems if you'll get the error from some API call you need to roll back because we don't have a distributed transactions anymore people use what so-called SAGAS practically make calls to multiple services and if one of them completely requesting you to go compensation calls to other services just to roll back the changes which we already done and you need to make sure these complete so this type of also need to be managed when you need to focus on building software. You don't WanNa get bogged down by your database Mongo. Db is an intuitive flexible document database. That lets you get to building Mongo. Db's document model is a natural way to represent data so that you can focus on what matters? Mongo. Db Abbas is the best way to use Mongo DB from the company that creates Mongo DB. It's a global cloud database service. That gives you all the developer productivity of Mongo DB plus the added simplicity of a fully managed database service. You can get started for free with Mongo. Db Atlas by going to Mongo DB DOT com slash atlas. Thank you to Mongo. Db and you can get started for free by going to Mongo DB DOT com slash atlas to play the devil's advocate as to whether we need an entire workflow orchestration engine to manage this. Why not just use readiness for example? Why not just have this resilient end memory system that can store all of my state about the transactions the long transactions the workflow management. That's going on across my system. Can't I just use res- or at CD for that matter? Why not just have a lock server? That manages the information that I need to know about the stuff. Why do I need an entire engine to help me through these kinds of workflows practically? I don't think it changes anything. If you have database we use radius registered. Just Kinda type of database. Right just fast. It's still the same. You still need to load that information when you execute business logic from that external source in this case would rate is and then you would need to ATC do whatever. It's still database in what they were. Former today's right it's in stories so Utah Utah State from their storage and save it back on every state transition and managing that state is non trivial nagging. I didn't even start talking about timers. Timeouts tries all these things. These are not trivial to implement and then to scale those things because it's pretty straightforward to partition your data across business key for somebody who have millions of customers. You can go in. Partition that across multiple database instances using charging but it doesn't work for timers for example. Because every time you make a request to create adorable timer. Durable timers are not as easily partitioning because the partitioning different dimensions. So just if you start thinking about all aspects of fail ability and skill ability. It's not the trivial to build systems of support those requirements. And again people do that. It's not it's kind of the status quo right now. But my point is that they actually spent disproportionate amount of time building kind of not their business. Logic like look at for example. Some business logic. Let's say you implemented in a single process without thinking about this process go in a way that logic and be like Hainan lines of code. Okay call that. Api cold that they've Pi changed arguments to another very uncalled that API and then based on what they were legit do something else. But then I say okay now. We're on this for million customers and make it of robust against possible failures. Then this court will become uncertainty of quarterbacks the cheese very hot understand manage and has very little resemblance to the regional court. There are some other tools that are popular that could be described as workflow orchestration. Airflow comes to mind. How does cadence compared to airflow? I think is that airflow tries to solve the same problem but it has very very different approach and also try to solve. That problem has for various strict subset of use cases. Mostly because it was created around data pipelines. Eat has very limited requirements on trump's of scale ability. Because you cannot just go and say okay. I'm going to use airflow for example for a bank to transfer money from one account to another. Because if you do you. Thousand transactions per second. I don't think floyd technology which you can rely on. So that is kind of I bought is that was built. For very high scale it was built for data pipelines. A second part is I think the biggest difference is Phyllis in the way workflows described. Their idea of kittens is very different from all existing workflow engines in the sense that let me. Just start from the beginning in the imagine that you have Computer reach has full toward around memory like in the future. We probably will have ram which will always be durable so it completely changed the way the right because you eliminate exactly what they said. They eliminate this cycle when the Lord State Abate the state and save it Beco- database because we can just receive request. Update your local variables of your program and return request in your local variables will be preserved because memories fully fault tolerant the same way if you do downstream call and this call takes five days or requires retried and everything you still can be blocked in the same line of court for very long time because again the memory of your computer including stack all variables. Everything is preserved. That'll be very nice. To live in. It will completely simplify the way. You're right apllications and this is not magic. This is executive gains. Does it allows you to write normal code in just quote as you would write in your program language so you just write code. Which of these local wearables starts Fred's makes API calls and everything and then this code deal it's obstruction but it gives you vinnie right coat. You write code as your memory cannot be lost including local variable sticks. And so on if you talk about airflow in practically all other existing workflow engines they now execute your directly what they do even if they are caught based airflow called based note like DSL base. Jason based as most other engines airflow or quotas is associated to deck dagga. Some can send you can think of. There's a very limited version of industry of your program. And then what engineering the actual deck which is very very limited version no fan of programming constructs so what does get kanus actually execute cold like cold in your program. This doesn't shed some other representations of program it is actual cold what can is gives us up this virtual memory obstructions and it can predict it. Changes the way you think because you need to rethink about new abstractions obstructions east. You'll quote if you need to do if statement just right if els. Momal PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE STATEMENT. If you need to do loop they'll just do normal loop if you need to do whatever business. Logic of your application will do business logic application if you're go program will channel and you listen to the channel and select on that if necessary to process external requests. So you'll do need to kind of rethink the way you'd mobile programs and the best part is that is about complexity because there is a reason you don't use DSL's like syntax syntax trees adjacent to write means lights of quote. If I come to somebody say okay. They coups complex business application and write it in Jason. I Dunno Lennox Kernel. That would be insane right. Why because you cannot try to very complex business. Logic in this high level languages unions like real programming language because they have enough obstructions and enough capabilities and enough learnings to deal with immense complexity. Practically if you say here's the job program. We'll go program right me. I don't know hundred thousand lines of code. I'm pretty sure that you can write them. In the way that programmers can make sense out of them and because cadence again is just quote. Complexity of the kitchen you can write using. This platform is practically unlimited. And it's very very different from any other workflow engine. Great what are the steps for defining a workflow in cadence so for defining workflow practically you just? It certainly depends on the programming language. You use currently you support out of the box. A job in goal and FIFA client actually which is external contribution is almost ready as well and also ruby client is also an external contribution soul. Let's talk about Java. Simple just to start. Enjoy what you would do you. Would you would get create an interface? You've method which you have not eight as workflow method on the interface and just normal jogging interface. Otherwise and then you implement that interface and you just right to accord inside of that interface the biggest limitation and how this via close different from any other court is that workflows cannot call external. Epa's direct. They always have called them for so-called activities. You can think of his tasks as well so call them activities so practically if you need to to send. Sho Call some external API whatever yours. Put that quote into activity so practically all the external calls Goto activities and then workflow makes. Api calls talk to you which is specially Pi Mitch. Productivity is also implemented practically. I'm kind of jumping ahead of me. But if you do activities you just implemented our interface and every method that interface becomes an activity and then inside of workflow. You get special. Stop to that. Interface practically shipments that interface. And you make calls to those and it can be looking closer. Practically you'll save my activity implements. I Dunno deposit method and via throw method so instead of workflow you call activity dot deposit like stop. The doctor did the deposed put parameters are there and this call can block for five days and then then unlocks. You'll go to next line at the weekend. The role of what they were. And you just write code. Which calls into the activities and then you have Other all features of the language available also can receive external events because workflows can react to external events which in case of Java would be just caldbeck method which is called every time. The external event is sent to flow great. I want to continue to move through the different vocabulary. You have activity tasks decisions. Decision tasks activity workers just to make sure people. Ore Listening are following along what cadence is doing for the developer is. It's providing this environment that is durable. It's a durable environment. That can help you manage this workflow. That may be may have state that needs to be acknowledged for days or months at a time. That's a long lived session. And if you WANNA maintain session for that long so workflow session. You're going to need some kind of durable flexible environment that gives you the paradigm is you need to be able to call these different services over this long period of time so there are two parts one. Is the programming model. How do you write code? And then a separate part is how you deploy that cord and how you're on that so when you write code you don't need to think about that. The only requirement is that use appropriate workflow. Ep is to do certain things like getting time. And also you use activities took call external services instead of making direct calls and whatever framework does is it preserves the state of your workflow called including all local variables state of your of France and everything. So that the and then you need to deploy that in around that the weekends does it right now. Is You have Beckon Saugus which exposes API and right now we are switching to Jerry. Api SURPRISE JERKY. Service which behind the scenes consist multiple components. But these days is just a bunch of Doku Images Practically Window Kerry Mitch which you can deploy in multiple roles and it also requires a database so via currently support. My sequel and Cassandra was grass is also contributed but it's not production ready yet but we'll be production ready soon. In general almost any database which supports Montereau single shot transactions can be used potentially cadence and then the biggest difference of Kittens from other workflow engines. That it doesn't execute actual code of the customer even workflow code for example an airflow you kinda see sand the deck for engine to execute in case of Kittens workflow called inactivity to code lives outside of that service. These quotas part of the customer service. It's the same way as you can think. As Kafka consumer doesn't bill onto cluster right. Oh publisher just external process which communicates to the cluster. The same way cadence code like workflow called an activity called leaves inside of worker processes which connect to the service externally and this what processes are done link with API's radically client side. Libraries is the case for example. If you're doing Java you'll just include the decay as a dependency and then you just frozen against the CPI and then you run those workers so these workers external this Walker said what they do they connect to the service and service internally has cues they just pull for tasks from those cues to receive tasks. I if it's activity. It will activities not involved directly. It was the task in the queue and then activity walker picks up the ask executes that reports back to the show about its completion of failure. Nice thing about that. Workers are by out of the box flow control so it means that walkers cannot be overloaded by rate of requests. They cannot process request enough there. Kristie will just be Beck lockton. They appropriate Q. For those tasks so does criminal probably union motel the because they can go suddenly for a very long time describing no no. It's it's great. I want to examine this from a number of different angles. So in order to to give a different angle. I'd like us to talk about the cadence architecture. So we can talk about the architecture of cadence itself the Cayden Service and the backing storage system and then we can talk about how an individual workflow might integrate with the service. I think we've given the listeners. Decent overview for what purpose this thing is solving so let's talk about the overview of the cadence architecture itself. Can you tell me what is going on in the Cayden service and what the run time looks like I'll try. It's certainly five hour lecture. Let's not from the service. Api So practically the core service CPI's start workflows to send signals to them which are external events visual and deliver surprisingly. When you want any shade in your workflow. For example you press a button on website for example to initiate the money transfer you will call stock. Flags accused on the service. Api that will create state for that workflow and you also pause business idea because cadences fully consistent service. It guarantees uniqueness workflows by so it usually there'll be a donald transaction idea customer. D- depends on you use case and in this case you'll create that object inside of kittens. Also what does I didn't mention that? But the way beat Construct State. We use event sourcing so vehicle. Every event relate to that workflow. Soviet every workflow maintains so called event. History so practical. And you start workflow. We will write workflow execution started to vent into the event. Houston for that specific for instance. And at this point this call returns so because service accepted that this is it. Then what happens? Is that as book flow. Code doesn't leave inside of the service Vini to call into the actual quote. How it's done. There is a walker which contains the workflow code usually sell side of the service and this flow Walker. Listen so so-called task list which is essentially Q. Within some name on these name is practically can be choosen replication. And what happens when you start workflow? It's not only creates a state and not only APP pens event in the history. It also creates a task in that queue in the tasks and all of that is atomic this very important because gains eliminates a lot of risk conditions like many implement ad hoc system for example use. Q. And use database. You'll discoveries condition. What do I do? We Update Q. Do we put in the queue and then updated database or your update database. I put in the queue. What they want to choose you. You are on because unless you have transaction within those two evil end up his bunch of race conditions there Guinness World Guarantee that many call start work floor it will update the state create the history and also create a task and if it fails none of that will happen and then this task is Putin appropriate Q. And workflow worker picks up and executes workflow logic which prudential say execute activity A and. It doesn't call the activity directly. Just sense command back to the service saying okay one exude activity. What it will do. It will update the state of the workflow inside of the show. It will upend event to the history saying practically command to history saying activity scheduled and then it will automatically also create activity task inappropriate hugh which activity listens on their own Q. And this point this what we call decision task from the workflow walker complete then activity walk. We'll pick up the task from that queue execute it and then a call complete activity back to the service so this will add event to the execution history which is August company that and call workflow again delivering the new event the workflow vanity go back and forth like this so the complexity on the beckoned is practically what it needs to do in Houston Montaigne practically unlimited number of those workflows because he want to scale out. Why does you need the billions of them? Potentially then every state transition of the workflow in Utah Timer Drubel timers so every time you call for example activity you start multiple times You start a timer so Holland Kenneth Ron activity can heartbeats might end up creating the heartbeat timer as well. You have multiple activity just running in parallel soon. You timer for each of them. The whole workflow has its own timer and also business logic can ask to sleep sometimes so you need timers who created the business logic so that is another part and also because probably means that you cannot do naively in terms of scale in because if you start by workflow and this is what we do internally we do shot by flow so we can actually have a lot of database. Instances or Cassandra notes and then we can scale out but then it doesn't help. These things like delivering the cues because you can have single Q. Delivering messages to activity. Walk Fleet of activity workers and this is shot completely differently. Then you need to have durable timers so shot in durable timers is a little bit art Hogan Oh to both of those so most of the complexity of the service is around how you make sure that you can scale all of those different dimensions and then make sure that the system is robust also fully consistent and yeah an alternate Comic okay. It was long. I Think About Rain Company incomplete. Very incomplete description totally fine. I mean we're not going to be able to cover the entirety of cadence in this podcast. We just want to give the listeners. A glimpse into what this does in two they can learn about whether it might solve a problem they have. You've mentioned that. The data and the CAYDEN services backed by. Cassandra why Cassandra I think there are multiple reasons of that. One is that Uber. Just had hosted Cassandra service internally. It's cannock has like internal version of Molecular Diaz of Cassandra so that was broken. Most obvious choice because our team have to maintain that also in general Cassandra is pretty nice in the sense that you can add capacity relatively easily deals recharging in all of that so you can just add notes neutrons. Unfortunately because we are fully consistent. Service CASSANDRA has a lot of limitations. Around instances so we had to use light veterans actions. And they certainly not the most demised and the left feature of Cassandra so but it took us a very long time to get a try. Don't try it at home. The late to edit support for that is my sequel is a one production radio and we will have more of them you this time. We cannot support almost every database out. There I suppose transactions got it so a workflow is going to involve is likely to involve multiple services or as you said at the beginning of the show it could just be the single monolith but for each service or monolith that is going to be interacting with this central cadence service. Tell me about what the communication is. You mentioned that these services would imbed client library but I want to know more about what the client library does and what. The communication protocol is between these individual services that are being orchestrated together and the central Cayden service so there are actually two very different models there one more delays that your service users cadence individually and communicates vis external services. Tv's for example if you have a exist in PC services not kind of workflow enabled which usually just have very short. Requests like showtime outs regressed. And you need to make a call them You Still WanNA use workflow because these services can be down and can have outages L. Unit Theron compensations like Sagas. So you call this ervices. It can be pretty fast but then one of them is down. You may be one retry. I've felt once requirement Milano customers that some don't seem dependency which is felt by said we cannot subscribe to a Sally Vegan battlefield for free days. They say like Mexican but three days and then people come back to us and say what do we do? This is like free days. We can not try from Kafka with the using Code Beck then for free days especially if it's subset of messages. How do we do that like practically because kidding supports exponentially tries to reach out of the box they practice say case at your it for free days and you'll find but in this model what happens? Is that your service host the Walker. Which was both activities and workflows and this connects to cadence fro jar. But they kind of just the inside of the library service to manage that in any way besides given correct connections drink and then this service will execute activities and workflows and these activities will deal with failures of external services in the Detroit and so on in other more. Which is I think these are more interesting is that you can think about Kittens as a service Mesh Service mess for longer on patients because right now if you think about it all exist in like all talking about service measures but it's always around a short-lived operations especially about request apply. Yes there are also once we deal with abused they practically Allow you to configure accused. Receive Message From Cues but technically if you think about it. Most of this is about requested. Inside of Kittens. Workflows can other activities and workflows like synchronous when you look at the court. Asynchronous requests the apply. You may request and then you wait for his in blocking mode and then you get your reply. The differences that this request can take five days or one year doesn't matter or maybe you try day so these requests will block for free days until request goes through what you do. If you model other services as activities or child workflows as workflows inside of kittens. So issues will be separate deployment both of them connect to the hidden sugar but then when they call each other they will call each other as activities or child workflows and cadence will become kind of this long running service. Mesh so that is the is that you can treat it as a service mass for longer than the create service or unit. The Kentucky around that is I think the different way to think about it as a company grows. The software infrastructure becomes a large complex distributed system without standardized applications or security policies. It can become difficult. To oversee all the vulnerabilities that might exist across all of your physical machines. Virtual machines containers and cloud services extra hop is a cloud native security company that detects threats across your hybrid infrastructure. 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And if you want to check out extra hop and support the show good extra hop dot com slash clouds as you're telling me about cadence and just how many pieces there are two making sure this works properly. I wonder what the testing process has been for developing cadence. What kinds of tests you put in place in. What was your testing process to make sure that this workflow engine that is going to be applied in so many different ways works as you expect. It took time. It just takes time just to give some background off leaders of the project me in some. Are we worked at the best and we walked Here's some also worked Nazar and they build more than one product together so when we be building kids we can build it as a service from the beginning and Avi build it as like hot core infrastructure components so we spend a lot of time a lot of testing and we have a lot of release pipelines each Iran Fru practically all possible scenarios offer using the service and we also run all long running tests out released pipelines. That of course I think at least two free days Ron to ensure that we don't have regressions and obviously there is no magic. Sometimes box sleep through that for that we have staging pipelines and the tuber what we had we had customers Ryan their stage in workflows on stage in and we are doing the upgrade of the staging environment as a test. I four make sure that upgrades don't break exist. Workflows also to ensure that system states healthier but also even if in the case of that box food production in a lot of protections and a lot of ways to deal with failure we practically never lost workflows. They could get started but we would find out and unsolved problem but in general the system was very reliable in production but yes it took a lot of effort and a lot of discipline to do it right. There is other things about tasting which I wanted to mention. Is that because you write code? You can actually easily test. You can test your workflow using your preference unit testing framework for example in John where you can just go and use J unit and you can write workflow and you can walk every activity and was using the mosquito or whatever prefer mock framework you use and you can write a practically full blow normal Java a unit test of all your business logic and the best part is that the unit testing framework that provides so puts timekeeping. What I mean by that is for example. Your workflow does some operation and then says sleep for three days because he needs to do something three days later. Maybe sent customer message. That unit testing frameworks will detect workflows book. For Free Days. It will phonetically role time for free days instantaneously. And then it means that your workflow Unit Test Villaran in milliseconds even if the doubt you change anytime time out so timers which say days weeks which is very powerful feature tasting over longer onion business logic. I'd like to run through another example. Maybe in a little more detail about how an activity or a workflow would actually be implemented in terms of the different vocabulary so these activity activity task decision decision task. Can you give an example of a workflow and put it in? Terms of the programming paradigms of cadence is so practically the terms you mentioned most of them actually do need implement workflows. You probably need them when you won't understand how the system works on a high level you'll have activities you have workflows and workflows can be started. And you have signalled switches events. You can send to the workflow. These are practically the main obstruction. You need to deal with so all others are more like new details. It's nice to understand them to understand how system works for troubleshooting. When you write code you just write workflows and acuity tasks and the main rule. Ease that activity task externally should be called through activities so practically if you need to do money. Transfer activity visual call actual bank. Api Bank API's and then workflow. You'll just call those activities through activity interface stop so brightly. Inside of Joel quote you would say new interface for these interface class. It will give you an instance of this stop that interface and you'll just call method on that activity directly and it will be normal. Api call the differences. Also that you need to understand that arguments as possible because you can plug in civilization sit allies by default we used Jason but basic idea. Is that this would be a two types because this is practically more call when you call an activity but these are obstructions that activities in workflows and workflow quoted just caught which again just because some restrictions college thron for example if you create multiple threads and said look what you have to use. Api is provided by the workflow and there are some other restrictions around for some time. You need to take time using workflow. Api's but basically just caught which calls into activities and also you can collect you with Jesse for example and get from his back and then you will just can block on that promise. So he can eat all promises so you can do like synchronous compositional that promise saga a lot of standard our things. These promises practically similar to Joe Comfortable. Promise in terms of functionality. Tell me more about the process of building this at Uber. So one thing is that just against some background. I was lead for the simple. Clovis at Amazon and some are busy. They as well so. I spend a lot of time thinking about this problem so I I'm doing this for probably more than ten years straight solving this type of problems now so at at Amazon I can not like this little internal information. It took US long time to get. The first version outed was multiple ITERATIONS. I wrote at least free client site libraries and the wanted Moslem has right now before the simple workflow is not many people know about it. There is actually the best simple workflow service out there. The show can implement similar ideas. That kittens Gus but obviously it was ten years ago. It took us some time to get it right and still. I think we didn't get great especially the developer. Experience wasn't good enough for this service to pick up. I think and the later when we had the similar problem to solve Uber. We kind of decided to not copy a simple workflow but use the ideas that Simple workflow had each rate on them and make it better the ability relatively simple version of that internally and each rated on the completely different Beckham and the different. Dpi's because for example. We used thrift over our own. Ep is and then we wrote Clyde Labor in goal then we generated for some time just to make it production warfare Putin production and then we started to get feedback from all users and multiple multiple iterations of the product and they started to of very important features for example of you support multi region depreciation. So you can have multiple classes. We propagation level protocol talk to each other and if you lose competently the data center you can continue your walk. Workflows container from a different data center out of the box that was very hard to implement featuring took long time to get it right but most important services a tuber would never use. The service doesn't sustain the data center outage and then one thing which was great about Uber. Allowed us to build this project as open source from the beginning will be very open to like you. See a Lotta fool open source projects coming out because birkhead very very open police. If towards open source if you had projects could be interesting for the community build it not release Lulu Enterprises. You build something. They allow you to release. It's almost impossible to release it after because usually dependencies creeping because we built cadence from the beginning to open source project. I think we manage to keep those dependents bay and also it helped us to get obviously external community. When did you get the idea that a business could be built around cadence? I think it wasn't limited to build business around that. I think one thing we should I believe is that the new program in McCain's promotes and supports is a very powerful one. And I believe that it's can change the way. A lot of applications are written in the industry and so we started the project. The obvious wanted to this. Why we want to make it open source. We wanted to make it successful. Not only inside the food there but outside at some point we started to realize that being inside of an organization even as great as Uber is was limited because we couldn't really focus external customers. Because you just have different priorities right so you can walk to and do some features for example support. No progress is that the base where she doesn't use at some point approaching with started to become popular outside the full gear. And we've we approach which told us kind of that varies possibility to get money and also they can help us understand that we really cannot make this project successful really a successful outside unless we again the focus on that one hundred percent of the time on external users and I always believed that The technology's there and this kind of convinced me that. Mica founder some are is that we WANNA create company around that and focus all our attention on making this approach agreed and the fact that there is not a defacto best workflow engine that is as general as you are pursuing with cadence. Do you have any ideas on why that is and why it possible today or is it just the fact that this is so hard to build and nobody has put in a decade at workflow engines? Like you have. It's a very good question. I think there are various reasons for that. I can Mike Colleagues. Beach walked on me. Phone simple workflow. When I told him that I'm building company on similar ideas. Said he's that I most stubborn person in the world he knows. Just people underestimate the complexity of the engines. Especially if you to build high scale one that if you look around thereof quite a few but if you say okay call many of them can support thousands of workflows per second how many of them can scale to hundreds of millions of BERYL exucution so potentially more. There are no that May. I don't know if probably the conductor would be the closest one from Netflix. I understand that the nor cortisol older age now but I think the idea of North Dakota law code is about helping professional programmers to write to can automate what they're doing. And I think this is great and I think it's super useful and the very lows of actually local engines Oregon of kittens. But I think that this misplaced when we try to move programmers into that world sought engineers love coat and they just don't like to write plumbing what we are doing William Innate in the pliant component and allow them to focus on business logic using what they like. And this is I think the combination of these just quote I approach and now the way we can call it. We call it Workflows as cold. This is kind of the overview how to call what we are doing like workflows is cold. That is one thing and second is just even people who built debase level of services before and can spend time thanks to Uber for example to make them production warfare this production for for years tuber so that combination of factors not that easy to come up with and if somebody's listening to this and they're thinking maybe this consult a problem that I have and they're thinking what is the best way for me to actually use cadence today to actually try out this workflow system that you've built what's the best way for them to to start using it and to start getting. Their workflows orchestrated more properly. Right now I would recommend to go to our new company website. Temporal technologies so Tim Portal Dot. Io We have links to communication to get help repos and samples and everything from there so you can find all information about it there. Also we have a link to the slack channel and always there so you always can find me there and ask don't go implement complex application without getting design consultation. One thing about these workflows is called is that they are called. But a certain design patterns the Unfortunately I didn't have time to write Buco at least even block about them yet. But it's nice to talk to somebody who wrote at least witnessed a bunch of those designs. Validate that you're doing the right thing all right. Well just one more question. I like to focus this. This show around particular technologies. But you've been in the software industry for a. Pretty Long Time. You've been Amazon. Google Uber Microsoft. You're at aws anger at your own company. And we are in the midst of this unprecedented change to to the world and obviously everybody is unsure about what is going to happen with the changes due to this virus. But do you have any advice for people who are navigating their careers in the technology industry right now that relates to to this dramatic change? That has occurred. I think we are extremely lucky being in technology industry right now because I think the other least affected. I understand that it's still especially if the economy goes down at villa. Everyone but obviously being able to walk from home without getting the same. Paycheck is a blessing. I certainly feel very bad for like the rest of cannot enjoy the same situation if you're in. It Industry Adenoids My feeling is that just become good. What you're do in rehiring right now in. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of companies which are hiring these. Have the best job security right now and In terms of learning I dunno is I just. Bq Area become proficient at that from other people. Who are actually generalists? And they are successful. So but I'm certainly not one of them is. I said I'm very stubborn. 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Lets check in on those businesses that got PPP loans

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Well, that was a weekend full of news. Was it not timing? Of course, is everything president trump went to Walter Reed Friday after the markets closed, he took his motorcade tour yesterday before the futures market opened and in between there has been chatter but no substance about Congress in the White House inching closer to another relief bill and that gets us to a Monday that kind of looks like any other Monday in this crazy mixed up here we're having. So we will continue the economic news of the day, and our starting point is a holdover from the last relief built a paycheck protection program. Millions of small businesses are banking on those loans being forgiven but as marketplace's Justin, how reports just as happened when the program started, it ends in confusion figuring out whether business is eligible for full forgiveness, partial forgiveness or none at all can be complicated. Mark Fryer owns three restaurants in Vermont. He says how much forgiveness he receives will help determine whether it's business can survive, and that's the most terrifying artists we wanted everything. We can try to turn this into full forgiveness and not end up with debt. Especially, Nano knowing for even going to survive list Fryer hasn't applied yet. He says he's waiting to see if Congress decides to automatically forgive loans under a certain amount. Of course, that would be something we'd want to make sure we wait and hopefully lineup with some borrowers haven't even been able to apply for forgiveness Jackie London public health consultancy in Colorado. She says, her Lindor hasn't opened the portal. It uses forgiveness applications every time she sees a new email from her lender I pretty much drop everything I'm do. I go and I checked to the you know is the portal open yet? Oh, it's not okay. Just in case her fifteen thousand dollar loan isn't forgiven. She's making sure that she has that amount set aside London says she'd like to be able to spend it but can I actually spend it without that feeling? Of Uneasiness. Is this mine or am I gonNA have to give it back it's been months since Virginia based jewelry store owner. Sophie Blake. Spent her P P money to control costs. She's been trying to renegotiate her rent. We're just asking for some sort of financial read because we work close for three months and that really impacted our business like says, she'll send in her forgiveness application within the next two weeks. I'm Justin how for marketplace so let's say your business depends entirely and I mean entirely on somebody else being willing to share their product with you. That is the case for a lot of businesses. Of course, the one proximate concern though for us today are movie theater chains which have been struggling to start back up. Over the weekend, Cinta World which Americans know as regal cinemas announced, it is closing its theaters here and in the UK, the company says it's temporary but without enough or really any blockbuster movies to show and with once again, rising infection rates. How might that temporary thing work marketplace Jasmine Garden design that one you could call it a chronicle of a death foretold for months. Now, there has been warning signs at many theatres will have to shut down the anti hero in this story. Bond. James Bond. Chris. And we won't be getting to it until next year on. Friday MGM announced the release of Bounds. New Movie is being postponed till twenty twenty one that was pretty much the last standing big blockbuster for this year shortly after Cinta world announced temporary closures in the UK and the US. That's forty thousand jobs at risk in the US professor Michelle Greenwald from Columbia Business School says the theater closures will also hit nearby coffeeshops restaurants ice. Cream parlors all likely to suffer screen stay dark. It's clearly going to have a domino effect. So it's you know bring people to malls where people are spending money bringing people to main street where people are spending money and I. don't even think that's being counted into the economic impact and with Cinna world closing its regal theaters here in the US other theater chains may soon close to says USC professor Jean Delvecchio so without content? And being so dependent on content, it was simply a matter of time that the theaters were going to run into trouble and there's no light at the end of the tunnel. But while things are looking bleak for cinemas, he says, Hollywood. Could be just fine without them premiering on streaming services like Disney did with Milan is paying off so far during the pandemic. Already made many great sacrifices. Straight to video used to be almost an insult these days, it might just be the only way to do business I'm jasmine guards for marketplace not to put too fine a point on it but Wall Street shore does seem like it's over that whole pandemic thing We'll have the details when we do the numbers. Not to be, forgotten given. Everything is that millions of high school seniors and their parents are hip deep in the college application process. This is not though an ordinary year for those applications. That is true but schools got to stay in business because a business it is just the lingo spent time following both students and admissions officers for his latest book. It's called who gets in and why Jeff Welcome to the program. It's great to be here. Used to be in this country and you write this in the book that you know like in the nineteen fifties you apply to college. After you graduated high school, you got in usually to the college of your choice. Now that's different and I and I want know why it has gotten so much more complicated mainly because students are applying to so many more colleges. So when I applied to college in the early nineteen nineties only about one in ten students apply to seven colleges today now, one in three students apply to seven more places and so mainly that's because Colleges have been flooding the market with marketing and direct marketing over the last forty years because they felt that if they got more applications, they reject more of those students and look more selective to students because they kept the size of their freshman class essentially the same and there is in fact, one guy, his name is bill royal you write in this book he basically came up with college advertising as we know it what is his story? So Bill Royal owned a direct marketing firm in Richmond. Virginia, and it was really focused on politics nonprofits but in nineteen eighty, eight, the admissions director of Hampton Sydney College in. Virginia hired him to start doing marketing for them and what he really did was try to flood the market with mailings to gin up interest that really changed the way. The colleges had direct marketed to students including sending too soft Moore's and juniors and not just seniors. Okay. So look setting aside, cost right because that is going up at the top notch universities and yes, not everybody pays full freight but look sticker prices have sticker shock. So sitting side that for a second Although I'm not sure why I'm setting it aside. So let's look at it large. Do you think the system of higher education in this country is sustainable? I mean you've spent a year plus looking at this. I don't think sustainable at the cost that it is right now on the price that it is and I think that parents and students are really worried that. has become the gatekeeper to the job market, and so they feel like they're forced to pay these prices and they're not always quite sure what they're getting return particularly if they're going to get a job in return. Do you imagine a and and you know your reporting for this book was done before the pandemic or most of it anyway. But do you imagine the coronavirus changes? higher education in how we approach it. I think it's GonNa change admissions in a big way in terms of particularly around the sat and the act. So four hundred plus colleges have gone test optional. I also think we're going to see a number of colleges merger go out of business in the next couple of years, and so I think that students will be much more focused on what they want to get out of education and whether they can get a job from their major. I was GonNa, ask you what you think the prospects for institutional change, our but that involves schools that have resources in power and influence giving up some of those resources and power and influence and I wonder how likely you think that is I mean, look if Harvard turn things upside down tomorrow then that would change. Thanks right. Because everybody follows hard is. Yeah I think we're really what is going to have to happen coming out of this is that college is lower in the pecking order of higher education or going to have to come up with new ways of getting through the process. Maybe it's not a four year degree maybe it's a three year degree. There's just not enough students to go round to fill all the seats in higher education and differentiation is going to have to be the name at the game. Jeff Selingo latest book is called who gets in and why it's a year inside college admissions Jeff thanks a lot appreciate. It was great to be here. Thanks. We've got an excerpt of Jeff's book. Look behind the admission seen at mile memorial full disclosure emory university into which I could not get today you can find it at marketplace. Even, in Non Pandemic Times, workers have certain protections while they're on the job there's a whole federal law for that. It's called the Occupational Safety and Health Act, which in turn created the Occupational Safety and Health Administration left out though in times pandemic and non from that laws protections are domestic workers in a California bill that would cover them has been. Vetoed by the governor out here from the Workplace Culture Desk. Marketplace's Megan McCarthy Carino has more on the story. The bill would've laid out new safety regulations for hundreds of thousands of Housecleaners, Nannies, and elder care workers in the state after Governor Gavin newsom veto dozens of domestic workers gathered in front of State building in Los Angeles Thursday to protest the reversal. Want. Governor Newsham. Domestic Yorker suffering. On. The California domestic workers coalition has long fought to gain protections for people exposed to harsh cleaning chemicals, hazardous wildfire debris, or who suffer injury from repetitive physical tasks. Organizer Megan RT says, the pandemic has exacerbated. The dangers incurred a number of cases unfortunately of women exposed to Kobe in the homes that they clean and bringing it back home to their families. Domestic workers are overwhelmingly women, the majority women of color they're paid lower than average wages and most get no sick time. Health insurance or the right to organize says Julia Wolfe with the Economic Policy Institute it's really difficult to think of a more voter. For us, I would say governor newsom said requiring private households to take on employer obligations for safety would be onerous and that enforcement would be impossible. But Debbie Berkowitz with the National Employment Law Project says more can be done. We need to really figure out a way to get information to household employers on some of the heat in critical hazards US workers face. She says standardized training materials or guidelines on protective equipment would go a long way I Megan McCarthy Carino for marketplace. Favorite check out the marketplace morning report tomorrow and every Weekday David Brancaccio in the gang that gets out of bed really early to set you up for your economic debt. Uncertainty. Coming up I always joke and say I sell a product I personally can't afford laughing all the way to the bank but first, let's do the numbers. Yes, you do as predicted down throws up four hundred and sixty five points today one, point six, percent twenty, eight, thousand, one, forty, eight, the Nasdaq up to fifty seven. That's two point three percent Levin thousand three, three to the S. and P. Five, hundred up as well. Sixty points one, point, seven, percent, thirty, four, and eight. They're regenerate company making that experimental antibiotic therapy. The president trump's doctors are using to treat him jump a little bit more than six percent today, and because as you heard, jasmine saying coming attractions are probably not coming soon theater near you net flicks up three and four tenths percent today Disney picked up a little bit more than a half percent. Away. From Wall. Street. Depending on where you live main street outlook is not so great. Data shows nearly half of small businesses in San Francisco and Orleans are still not open for business. That's about twice the national rates you're listening to marketplace. This marketplace podcast is supported by Deloitte private. When economists talk recovery, they often talk of V. W or you shapes at Deloitte private. The talk is of privately held companies because no matter how recovery unfolds history shows that private companies will play a role in shaping it to help to light offers a collection of articles and insights on resilient leadership and a host of issues and opportunities. Private companies face today see and subscribe at Deloitte Dot com slash us. Slash? Cova. This marketplace podcast is supported by we work as a business. You know today takes new ways of working. It takes new measures toward health and safety flexible terms for where when and how you work spaces designed with your purpose. In mind it takes the innovation of a we work office to take your business where you want it to be visit, we dot com slash future to learn more. This is marketplace I'm Kai Ryssdal. There are some virus hotspots popping up in New York City, as you probably heard Mayor Bill de Blasio wants to shut down schools and restaurants and non essential businesses in those zip codes of the governor of new. York though said, you can shut them down just not as much as you want they will talk their way through that I suppose, but we are going to talk. About a New York City institution that never opened back up in the first place Broadway's shut down in mid March and is closed until at least early January next year. So we have gotten eva price back on the phone. She's the Tony Award winning producer behind the revival of Oklahoma, a bunch of other things as well. Even it's really good to talk to you. Again it's been a year since we first met. I think about you often I I was I was thinking that it's going to be wild before getting back to New York City All right. So look what are you doing with yourself since you can't actually be producing stuff right now I and everyone in my industry is busier than ever. It's it's really crazy. I know I now. There's just a lot to do people are finding ways to create right now you've got performers writing and releasing their first albums. Costume shops are making P p. e.. Stagehands are building houses I'm creating other ways of telling stories through other mediums for for theater and I'm still producing by big Broadway musical. It's just taken a few minutes until we get back on Broadway let's get the plug in here. Right? It's jagged little pill. Morissette stuff and it had headed like just open one thing shut down or you guys were just getting going right we open December fifth and things shutdown March twelve we were three months in and we have a group of really active and engaged artists who are taking this campaign season. Very seriously. They're getting out the vote. You know we're keeping busy with that and I did the predictable thing and I even started a podcast. More. Let's talk about actually the campaign season and not the politics of it but economic relief for Broadway and the performing arts you are you're working on that hard to. Absolutely. You know I I'm part of the Executive Committee at the Broadway League, which is our trade association. That is I mean they're working really hard. They're they're in touch with all our government officials and you know were part of the Heroes Act. So you know the the save our stages bill is, is now a thing that that we're working hard to try and make up as a reality. How Hopeful Aria? Follow the negotiation news as closely as anybody I'm sure and they're like barely talking on the phone Pelosi and MNUCHIN. I'm not hopeful of anything guy. I am an optimistic person who sees the the positivity and the glass is full and today I'm sitting here you know Jinglin, my ice in my glasses. So empty I, it's it's rough out there. It's hard to stay hopeful of all the things that we need to get live theater back Bri was the first to shut won't be the last to come back and I. I'm hopeful that that support can come from our leaders. Broadway is the beating heart of new. York City this is the city is the beating heart of America and to not have live entertainment it. It's hard to understand how this country will feel normal and feel alive again. I'm. Not GonNa ask you to prognosticate on on when that might be because it is of course, unknowable I. AM curious though as to what kind of planning your doing. Because at some point, you're going to get some indicators and then the governor's GonNa say go and you're GonNa want to be ready. Absolutely I'm I'm worried right now and working right now to keeping the mental health of my company strong and intact I'm bringing opportunities for them outside of the live theater space. These are people who are like Olympic athletes they were they were rearing and ready and going every night. So I'm I'm working on that and preparing for the moment we are ready to go by making sure that everyone's head is in heart is in the game and ready to do it, and that's that's the thing that I worry about each day because I can't read a t leave and tell you when our day is I just know that we can work hard to be prepared for when our day is. If a price, she produces stuff on Broadway lots of good stuff. You will again you will again. Well, she's certainly well, thanks guys. To Talk to you. We've been talking a lot on this program about businesses that have been hit hard by the pandemic bars and restaurants and airlines y'all know the list as well as I do. Also talking about businesses that have managed to thrive couple of big names come immediately to mind Amazon Walmart. Target. Not talked about quite as much though a whole slice of this economy that is doing just fine. Thank you very much. The high end the very high and marketplace's Nova. Sappho went luxury watch shopping the second time around in beverly. Hills is aptly named. It sells vintage wristwatches this business was started. Third Generation watchmaker lashing jeweler I purchased the business from him in two thousand and thirteen. That's John. Goldfarb. Level Executive in the auto industry he likes this career better. Goldfarb store is well known among vintage watch aficionados partly because in the back, just like at an auto dealership, he can repair and service what he sells. Goldfarb employs watch makers such as kit mark who can fix pretty much any vintage timepiece. beat. Patterns what needs to be done. Just feels like that watching. The call the whole of The VIBRATO graph which looks straight out of the nineteen fifties is the most high-tech thing here. There are dozens of watches on cue for repair before they're sold and they're flying off the shelves almost as soon as they're fixed price tags run anywhere from six hundred bucks for a nineteen seventy S. To twenty-six grand for a nineteen sixties universals f. no I never heard of those brands before either I always joke and say I sell a product I personally can't afford but I think a good percentage of our customer base. has a low income and are always going to have that income regardless of the economy, and that's what's hoped. The luxury watch business endure the pandemic better than some other retailers demand for luxury watches mostly Swiss made dipped right after lockdowns in March but recovered quickly according to the Federation of the Swiss watch industry experts of watches costing more than three thousand dollars are now basically back to where they were last year. Reginald BRAC as a watch industry analyst at the NPD group, the rich are getting richer and the poor. Getting poorer meaning that that luxury segment is doing extremely well at three thousand plus and it's actually had twice as fast of a recovery as the remaining market luxury brands have taken note with brick and mortar stores closed over the summer. Some have relied on splashy apple like product unveilings on Youtube instagram elsewhere content aimed watch enthusiasts like Paul Bragan of Washington, DC, who's been stuck at home and consuming lots of watch related content online in March and April. When I was talking to other collector friends, we'd ask each other. What rabbit hole are you down these last few days Bragan who calls his watches? Mechanical Art is a senior partner at a consumer research firm. He's still working a lot of Americans aren't, but he's still being careful about his watch budget employing a strategy that might sound familiar to other types of collectors. I've been fairly lucky that they've been able to reasonably well anticipate something that might be more popular in the next few years and by that, and actually have it appreciated in value then cell and use the profits. To, buy another watch collectors are increasingly doing this online at retailers such as watch box, a company that sought twenty five percent earnings growth in the first half of this year Mike Manjo who's in charge of trading at watch box says the pandemic accelerated an online shift for luxury watch retailers, and that's helping brands to the markets expanding beyond kind of those super well known brands because they can get exposure on the Internet. Man Just thinks post pandemic the industry will not revert completely back to its brick and mortar ways. And even at the second time around shop owner John, Goldfarb says his shops website and instagram account are bringing in customers making up for lost street traffic around his store. In Beverly Hills. There are a lot of people found us through our online stuff that they want to physically touch feel the watch in order to fully appreciate that fine piece of mechanical art in Los Angeles I'm novus offer for marketplace. Final note on the way out today I'm going to mention it real quick. 'cause you ought to know there is no value judgment stated or implied here especially deep in pandemic as we are now late last week, the national debt topped twenty seven, trillion dollars for the first time. Remember debt is the sum total of all that we collectively Oh, the deficit is the annual shortfall is out a lot of money. Yes. Is it to be unduly worried about right now? No because this economy is still stuck in very real way and also. Interest rates are still real low for now. All. Right. We gotta go not without though your Monday dose of economic context. When is it going to? Stop Edition. No not the politics, the economic damage. The National Association for Business Economics has published survey of when the experts think gross domestic product, which is basically the economy is going to get back to where it was at the beginning of the year thirty eight percents said by the second half of next year thirty percent said by the first half of twenty twenty to thirty percent said by the second half of two, thousand, twenty two. So tossup rights. In accordance, Ellie, Camera Han Horse Show mckenry days, placebos, and Ben Purser to daily Production Rozelle will see my reviving. This is APN. Despite my better judgment I agreed to drink a pumpkin spice beer if we could raise one hundred, thousand dollars during our fall fund raiser. Well. You did it and then some what's your inbox for the video of me and molly would toasting you with a pumpkin spice beer. Cheers to all of our listeners and investors for your support whatever your motivation forgiving truly and thank you.

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On the Road with Charlotte Nash

Write with Love

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On the Road with Charlotte Nash

"Welcome to ride with. I'm your heist. Sarah Williams is selling author speaker in creative entrepreneur each week. I checked to passionate and inspiring authors. Got the Jenny and creative writing some traditionally published some do it themselves. Everyone's Jaas different. And everyone has something. Interesting to say, we all love love in a note will be today's show is brought to you by era mazing fans and supporters unpatriotic if you'd like to help support the shot and get some awesome bonus episodes. Go to patriotdepot dot com forward slash Sarah Williams, told her to learn more. Now, he is today's show. Welcome to write with love today on the show on chatting to fellow Queensland in romaine soul shell Nash, thanks for joining me today. No worries. So it's a pleasure to have you today. I'm a big fan over at all your books, and I love them. So I'd love if you could just tell us all about yourself and your writing Jenny so far, right? Well, my six book is now out, and I've actually I've been writing seriously now for I think twelve years ten twelve years, and it doesn't feel like that long. And sorry, I wasn't one of those people that knew they wanted to be a writer from an early age. You know, I did dabble, and I wrote pretty terrible poetry when I was a teenager and probably started a book to at Uni. But I never knew what I was doing. And it never connected to me that people write books as a serious thing and do it for a living, and you know, as job, and that even I would go into bookshelves and look at books and R O B mazing to have a book public. What is thoughts emit, but many his later after I'd been through a couple of sort of big technical degrees. Because I I did engineering medicine, and I thought that I would become a technical writer. I had sort of realized that I liked writing. And so I thought I'd put the things together. So I went back to you need to upskill a little bit in the editing sought of things with technical riding being my goal. But I happened to land the first time in a subject that was all about creative writing. And I just and I had the probably the only piffling I've ever had in my life. I was like, oh, April bride like actual people like me, and that was two thousand seven and since then I've been writing series, and it took us to get anything published and a little bit longer to get my book published, but since then it's sort of been steadily steadily sunau that book six is just well it's out today as we're talking, but it will be last week by the time. This goes the podcast, and I've got probably another six or seven manuscripts in my draw and that sort of being a slow and steady journey through that those ten twelve years now. Yeah, brilliant. We knew we stuff seeing to finish manuscripts. Did you did you do a lot of online study? You'll you do this university degrade did you keep going with it yet? Well, I the cost that I did was at the university of Queensland, and it was a broad kind, of course in writing editing and publishing but actually write novels. I did call three queens rods Cinta predominantly and then after so they have the sinkhole dear of the novel and year yet it and that was where I wrote my first novel manuscripts. And then edited that many scripts and that many never going anywhere. You know, I would so ambitious beyond my skills. But it proves to me that I could finish something and that I could hit it and sorry from then it's being a lot of. Add halt professional learning. But most of the time it's being workshops at conferences, or those kinds of things through Quainton sunrises Cinta from all different pots, I think for the practical things of writing for professional things better for me than than tissue -cation causes. So yes, that's why principally Lind brilliant and big showed at to the Quainton, right? Is seen. I loved them. Yeah. Absolutely fantastic. You get to and they're really wonderful. Okay. Oh, that's fantastic. So what was the book that you finished that you play? It was a it was a science fiction novel the Q mine. Such a wonderful. And it was kind of about these characters who lived in a post apocalyptic world after a quantum event. He's just it just demonstrates hell, I didn't have a really good concept of what a plot was and how to put this whole thing together. But I didn't really like the world that it was set in. And I a couple of years later actually wrote a a short story that was a prequel to the novel and sit in the same world, and I had a lot more clarity around what I was doing. So that short story was actually published. Yes. I it's. I could go back and completely rewrite the novel one day, but I'd have to stop from scratch. Yeah. And then after that, I write I write and historical fantasy that we said in the gym Britain's and dragons. A lot of affection for that story. But again, it needs wasn't as bad as the first one. But it needs pulling apart and putting that together, and then I write a an urban fantasy romance that was called the butterfly blade ban. Pas and things in it. As a lot of things did at that time. And then it was the Knicks book that I write which tend to ride as ridge, my fist publishable noble, and I actually write that which is completely different genre. I started at speculative fiction, but I write it in pot willing enlarge pot because of the Brisbane floods. Sorry that was sort of a literal la- Lucia in where I was going with my riding at that time you was going to say from going from speculative fiction to Rover. Yes. Still right by means that the the writing skills, I've always been that person who had those two different sides together. You know when I was in high school. I was doing physics and chemistry masses signed on that. I was doing an ancient history and those I've always had those two things together. But they don't play. Well, as you know, as you don't write the same name under and sire, I have continued to write vice but very much stuck to the short stories in spec. Fake, and in the long form in the the motor Antic dramas and the romances. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Koop. So your rural ROY main sore, the Americans might know, it is wasting romance. We always cool it for snow say. Say so you've got right is right. Which was you faced I enjoyed shin in crystal creek that that's right with Reggio and John Shan loop Druce gear. And and crystal creek. Yes, he's the first three. Yeah. Fairly. So how are they linked together? Right. Yes. So they can be ready to stand aligns. So it's not an obligatory. You must read them in a series, but my two protagonists from the first novel those Danielle who's my heroine and today's mock who is the the hero. It's h of the brothers become the heroes of the next two books. I junction is mocks the will. And then crystal creek is Danielle brother Aidan and side that Talbot I linked together and. In time. Order of the events happening is the order of the books, but depending because the story stands are pot. If you haven't read them, you just don't get the little references. Fantasia stake co so country we thinking is wholesale as L beg. I've as of yet depending on where they are. So writers nor with cleans land there's cattle-farming and there's horses in there on junction is in the pill breath. I not so many horses in there, but a lot of sort of fee fi lifestyle and the just the spectacular country of the pill, Brian to the city's out the ancient, Australia, Australia, and sort of cyclones, and that sort of thing crystal creek is towns full, so they they've the actual crystal creek, which is just north of town does feature in it. But there's also a witting in it. So they are to west to western Queensland to that. And and that's also military romance because the eighties in the army yet. So it. Moves around the country a little bit but of connected through family. Yeah. And ironically, that's the first one that I read because ice Libyan's. Oh. So I was in Townsville Patine years up until about year ago. And yeah, I remember say net one up until that point towns like never mentioned in the book. So. Yeah. And the goes offer it my book, which as a lot to do in Townsville as well. So the bed. Couldn't council on the vet. I've never lived there. But I had I had friends who lived, and I was and who obviously posted to the army base, which is where I was getting a lot of my details from and transpose some of my waking experiences as a medical student at the army base here in Brisbane and just sort of transpose them into the the the the towns setting every rating it going well show. She must be from towns. She's getting some. I think they're on a dedicated research trip and spend time there and actually go to crystal crate, which was amazing to put the world. It is yet. We gotta love this thing travel for Kroft day name barn. This came to shame. What a long. Yeah. Yeah. That we delayed boobs because that was the biggest thing is, but yeah. Absolutely. And of course, you know, I I should mention that my book that came off to these ones the horsemen, which is also a rural small town. Ryan, it's it's not connected. The first three in any way, but it's the Victorian high country, which I think the me it's actually one of the the ones that was the most personal because I was be cool see girl when I was a kid and I- heavily things in March halted memory like about the man from snowy river in the Elaine Mitchell to run Rummy books, and that's all set in that area of the high country. And so that's what was in my mind said almost an Omar to Jim Craig in the whole men from star reveal side that that one is really close to my heart faintest, cool, sir in the us phone on. So the lost to vote. That you wrote they not as much the rural remains is. They out more remain take drama or a Pulp Fiction which to avoid saying women's fiction because lice Feis that sexist. So we've got saving you, which is you most recent it'll get you tell us all about sex and the Paris weeding tells about Paris meeting face off. Sweating like a little bit of a crossover between the two because we do start out in country New South while sorry, the heroine of the story, right shoulder shea. She lives Nepal folks in in west of New, South, Wales and pox with if everybody's familiar with talks, it's with the Elvis festival happens every January just gone, and the it's also famous for the big radio telescope dish that stay which was sort of might find the spy these stray and filmed the dish, which I have to say is one of my favorite. So we do start there and shea is a woman who sacrificed to you, you know, to look after her mother who was very ill, and the story pins. And as a result of that she ends up giving up being with the love of pit life who's Matthew. And when the story opens him, others just passed away and show. She's it opens at a time when she's really lost with alive. And then the invitation arrives to Matthews wedding to somebody else and not only that. But it seemed Paris, and he's sort of moved a long way away from you know, wish she sort of lost connected with him. And so the story is really about ending up going to this wedding with the idea that she's going to use it as a way to move on. But a lot of complications arise. And and the story is about history of. Moving through dies and then coming to ten with how life is. But it's very much a story about so it's different to my earlier books in the sense that it's not a romance story all the couple and how they made him held ident- end up together. It's it has renewed Antic someplace I guess is really about righteous journey. Fantastic. Absolutely great book loved it. Very well. Go to Paris. With a one year old not what remain take now differently. Fantastic. I k- saving you. That's the latest count. So I haven't had a chance to read it yet. But our love the cover. It's is that a little balloon Amal. The couple was done by Christopher Christabel designs, and she saw incredibly talented. I think she also did the cover for the inaugural meeting of the vote they'll ladies book clubs, which actually I think was nominated one one of the woods soup covers last year. So she's incredibly talented. And I think she's really nailed the feeling of the book in what she's done. Absolutely amazing. It's getting so much bright feedback. Use a job it. I sorry. This is like the Paris waiting. This is a story about a woman Mallory Cooke, whose his pretty young she's she's only twenty four at the time when the story happens, but she's that character who had to grow up really fast because of you know, her life say straight out of school. She married a man who was going places and had all of these drains and sort of supported him. And then they have a young they have a child very quickly. And so she has this five year old son, and she's in the aged care industry, and she's very enthusiastic, but also, you know, a bit naive about having guys. And as a massive surprise to maybe not everybody else husband about a year before the story starts has suddenly kind of up sticks and lift her because his businesses taken off to seize. So when when the story opens she soda in the situa-. Wish she's hopeful of reconciliation, but then pretty quickly things disintegrate because two sons being on a visit. And then he doesn't come Heim. And sorry, this the story stocks is this sort of horrible situation where she thinks she's about to lose his son. And so she goes from life looks like it's getting back together to everything falling apart and then through a series of accidents. She goes on this trip to try and recover his son, Harry, and she ends up teaming up with these three pensioners from from the K home would have all escaped and going on a trip to for their own reasons. So the tagline is three escaped pension is one single mother a road to rescue his son. So, but these this story about, you know, all of these people going on this journey with the idea of citing something, but the move. Being dependent on each other. And so there's a lot of you know, themes of. You know, kindness, and and and the opposite of that. And I it's I ride lifting endings. For me. The story comes to lovely resolution, and there is again, a romantic subplot. We've unlikely hero along the way. But it has has has these things about continous and corporation, and you know, what people the extensive people will go to for each other. I think is a really nice thing to write about. It's really good just trying to spoiler. It. It tends beautiful and just wanted to add that on your website, actually, say's that his signature style faces a lush saints of place rich plot emotive heart in body and soul to safer who characters. Yeah. I I love putting something in a sitting you know, that bringing that setting into the story. So in this case, it's a road trip through the south of of the states, which is a very interesting place to guy, you it goes from Kayce stool LA to the desert of Arizona and through Texas, and then you get into this much more lush illness European looking as you get into Tennessee in those more eastern sites, and then all the way to New York, which is just the ultimate metropolis. So yeah, I love bringing those things in. But I like a lot of things to happen in my stories. So yeah, I was the characters doing a lot of things and then then being moved along way from where they were at the beginning of the story. Listen, fantasies, so saving doing a little book tour around Brisbane Febuary, which just looks fantastic. And and I'm going. We had a lot of libraries going to be a lot of libraries, nothing something. The Fraser coast story. We'll be helping Harvey bay on way. It's a Wednesday the twenty second February excellent little day, turn your website. 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Why We Do It

Antidotes, Stories in Medicine

1:20:01 hr | 2 years ago

Why We Do It

"Welcome to another week of antidotes. I'm Christine I'm so happy to have everyone back this week. This is a very different episode than what we have been doing before every week. I talk to different medical providers about their stories and before I record before we go through everything and we get to their stories. I always say to them be respectful of your stories. You know, make sure you're telling the story as if the patient is listening. We always say this whenever we talk about clinical cases in we're doing grand rounds or anything and most of the time, we never expect the patient to listen. So it was a very interesting and shocking thing when I found out that someone who and I hate to keep saying this, but we call the patient actually listened to one of our stories. So today, I'm actually going to get the other side of one of. Our epic Soad's. So for those of you that listen to the do it. You can't with Pete army medic. This is one of his patients tech sergeant Dan fi who I will. Now stop referring to as the casualty because that's so disrespectful to call. You that to your face? But welcome, Dan. Thank you so much for coming on and talking to me about this. That'd be able to do this. So you listen to the podcast episode. And I was actually the first time you've ever listened to a podcast. Her most of it is really religious cool also say is it weird to listen to somebody talk about your medical care like that? No, not really I'm kind of used to. It was a dove a lot of medical stuff since injuries. So I've had to talk about my injuries so much that it's just two people talking about so Tanna tell people I guess we'll catch them up a little bit. If anyone doesn't really remember because it was a really long episode that Pete was in you were injured by in Afghanistan in two thousand eleven is that correct may twenty seven two thousand eleven but you are an e OD Yoda guy in the air force. Not the army like. Tested his unit. Most people will probably not no it yo Di is. And I very casually explained that you are the bomb guys in the episode, but it's quite more than that. So what for the layperson what is your d-, explosive disposal? Some of it's basically the military bond swab, but we do a whole lot. Do get rid of enemy remnants of war other unexploded ordinance all their stockpiles as far as the bombs squad side of it. We'd take care of all the roadside bombs any ID's insurgents were making the enemy that was our job to go take care those and not just get rid of. But also exploited for any kind of friends guidance. We can get out of them. So we weren't just like, you know, blown place monkeys or bit monkeys call them. We'd actually go there and try and trim preserve as much evidence as possible, and it wasn't just we're just training conventional type explosives were also in chemical biological nuclear the whole range of any kind of explosive hazards, and it's it's pretty. Pretty interesting fun fun job. Do how far is your deployment? Where you at that time at the plumbing blue his three and a half months into that deployment. When I was injured was this your first appointment, our subsequent one. It was my fourth deployment as my third combat tour. So I did to Iraq before that. And then this was my first Afghanistan. My first non-combat was the Saudi Arabia. When did you join air force? I joined two thousand two I joined in March two dozen to pretty much because nine eleven yet is why came in and so it's a little bit time to to actually get into the door. But yeah, it was back in early two thousand two how frequently are you deploying? Will I some issues when I came in? I injured my back so had back surgery, and I had to recover good medical issues with that. And so took a few years, but the why follow deployed it was like a gone, and then I'd be home for maybe a year or two that'd be deployed again come on for year, then go again and be home for another year ago again. So it was. Pretty pretty frequent wants to start happening there. We were doing six month rotations, some were in a twelve month rotation for certain VOD positions, but I was on the six month rotations. And so you'd be home for if you're lucky year or so and then gone for six months. It's really crazy to think about that. This generation of service members have done so many deployments. I mean when I was in you guys have done as mentors use it. You know, five six seven tours, especially if their career is is kind of incredible. Oh, they're gone more than on when I first came in and I finished UD school. And I went to my first duty assignment that was back. It was found out there two thousand three and guys were fighting with each other for two points. Like, they're done anything like that. Right. And everyone get appointment before the war was over. Yeah. Which is kind of ironic bell because it's still going, but everyone I mean, they were there like back and forth. Each other who's going to go in the rotation. Yeah. And then it got the point where like people don't wanna go anymore. Just tired of it. 'cause I friends I was like go for six months gone for six months home for six months. It was worse than gear gets hit nonstop by friends that came with me, they're like there at least their eighth appointment right now. And it's just crazy. How the tempo is just burns guys out your family too. I don't know how marriages survive that many deployments. It's not easy. I was actually married before came in. I was actually pregnant at the time. And so when I came in she is at the end of pregnancy when I got to school the gas showed up, the Florida is when my son was born so that with a family with kids from the very beginning in its death. It's not easy on the family now. And so you've done the entire time. Yes, I went into the air force. So with contract so people in this billion world, and even in the military world, don't generally think of the air force is being the guys on the ground. I mean, obviously, there's like Jay. Tax that are helping calling airstrikes on the ground. But I mean, there's always the joke amongst services that you guys at the air force. But very clearly that that's not the case. A how much of the air force our guys on the ground. Like, you also the wire, there's not very many. There's us you have PJ's comeback controllers, those kind of jobs in you have four said do like outside the prisoner security outside the wire, but it's not a lot of guys that are actually outside in harm's way. It's it's very few. But when we go out like the Ford opponents, I've had I've been deployed with the air force once in the rest of all been of an attached army, the whole time on the last one was actually the army end, the Canadians, and I know you have like tech p in the tech is with army all the time. So it's when we'd fun because we air force. And we do deploy is not with other airmen were with other services or other countries. And so that's why I think don't realize that we're actually out there doing stuff because I don't really see it. Yeah. And just for there's a very mostly civilian audience that listens to the so the PJ's are these super badass para rescue jumper, medics that are basically special forces medics that like flight medics that the air force have and they're really fantastic in they operate under a little bit different rules than army medics army flight, medic stew, and then J tax, and they are guys on the ground. And they kind of tell the airplanes where to call in airstrikes. And that's my various combat controllers tech Pia. That's my very simplistic explanation. Very important jobs for people that are listening. So this was said fourth deployment this for what was going on that day. You know, Pete said that he was out with you guys, and you were clearing a market, and you had gotten Intel that there's a lot of chatter you're expecting to get kinda hit with something. But you guys just didn't know what? Actually, the whole mission. She started a few days earlier, we had some you a video of guys were in place in in that area in 'cause rules engagement that watch until they got approval to actually engage them. So they watch in place at least five or six eighties before they could actually drop bomb on them. So I got the call that they knew that they're doing something our area of operation, irreversible. So I took that to our one the commanders for the network with until I'm hey, we got this going on right now. And just one what you guys now. I know you guys wanna push out in this area. So I think we need to go out there clear that in. So they got back to me and said, okay, we've got a mission will do a few days, but they wanna kinda can kind of combine it 'cause the road out. There hasn't been cleared, and they want to do like, okay, we can get away with guys out there fee. Heavy has cleared the room. And so that's how the whole mission started the day that we went to go to mission. I was actually out of cop mission which was. Like, maybe a couple of clicks away from telecom where Pete was out of. And for some reason they're having their guys teach me out there instead of my own guys at at our cop to take out there. So back Tele cannon what with them in the morning, and we stopped at that that school has checked that pita talked about which they turn into like some kind of a strong over the get actually a control the road. Sorry. I keep interrupting you because I just wanted to going things to people that don't speak the lingo dolls. Okay. I forget that sometimes. So we're going to go in clear the road all whipped up. One spot were supposed to go, which would have been probably I don't know. I know a mile or two the Rhode, but as we started doing is realizing really quick that it wasn't going to work because the kind of manpower had the people are helping us with this was just way too slow in taking his hours just to get up there. So I called it and said, hey, we're just getting go off the road. You're gonna hop. Some great rose the grape fills out there in there like big mud mounds. He cannot climb over where the grow the grapes off. We're just gonna kinda go through that. And just bound away all the way up into the location and what we're doing that which at a car pull up a kid ran out. And was like you'll boom boom, boom, boom. We're like, yeah. I know we know their stuff like, no, boom. Like boomer gonna die. We're like, okay. What we knew we already knew their stuff there. But then right after the kids showed up that's one Pete in the last one. We got radio chatter that they knew we were coming in. They're gonna try and ambushes, and I guess Pete's guys had been ambushed the day before in that area or had some kind of some kind of. Contact with enemy. So they have some road was going to happen. And so we stayed on higher alert. And then we talked to some locals out there. And they kind of warn us again. So we're gonna like all these little science long away like this is going to be possibly a bad day. But in my mind, I'm like, I'm excited to Zaki some work. You know, we're gonna get to actually do something. It was going to be an exciting day. And so we finally got location where at in cleared out an area made it kind of work in area in pushed up to where would stage army guys at that. Were there for us and that would pushed up on a weapons cache of like pressure plates in some low anti personnel. Landmines some other kind of things on the slow footbridge in an area that we'd been before in. So I set up guys give perimeter in what with my with my two guys kiss force running three teams in house team leader at the time. So we push forward and set up our working area. And I went through with the military to try and clear the area. That was kind of like doing isolated area. Mexico's no like in that line of command wire anything like that or anything I can easily. See that's when we had a scooter come flying up on us. And it was on the other side of there's a mound in like, there's big weeds and stuff. So I couldn't see over what's going on right on the other side that mount for me, then I said here in the guy was yelling and Dharma guys. Yelling back and forth with this guy. And I'm like, okay. I guess this is probably it. I'm this. What was coming on the radio about the attack? And so I started sweeping again, try and get a better view detector. Sweet like anything in the next thing. I know I'm gonna I'm gonna dust cloud and my ears ringing like crazy. And I don't even know what's going on. I think someone else got hit. And I forgot alone down there. And on my Ahmed some about hit. So I'm like looking around trim see in a move my arms. I have sway my bride arm and knows it smacks ground, and then that's what Donald quit. I just got hit. But I can't see anything because I'm in a dust cloud in my. Ears ringing so loud. I can't hear anything. Yeah. Then it kind of clears up loaded I can see sitting. And so that's that's pretty much what led up to that point where I got injured in a kind of story behind it. So before we can talk about the injury. You had done these kind of sweeps I'm imagining dozens and dozens of times before because you had done a bunch of deployments, it might might applause rashy little different. So when we got to my first one Iraq that was in Kirk, and I was actually team member the lower man on the team that won in. We really had nothing at the end of the fighting season all the than service ran through all explosives and stuff. So the stuff that we did it almost everything we did. It was hoax devices in. I think we got like maybe to actual ideas out of it. And then I was also doing it for team member perspective in Iraq almost everything's ran mounted which means we're not vehicles so years bomb suits using robots completely different kind of situation too low. That was my second one was to Hillary. There wasn't a whole lot going on there either. So my two combat tours didn't. Have a whole lot going far as doing the work and then come at ghanistan. They sent us to Bravo flight can't horror, which is for the Air Force One the most dangerous flights being in. So a may team leader in we get there in for the first part as the main base. So we didn't get hold. I got some really great stuff. Like a lot of demolition stuff. I got the do render safe procedures on unexploded rockets land landmines on the base, which was actually really mazing do. And then as far as ideas were concerned every time I get called on something. It was nothing. So they used to funny me because everytime winning where it used to be the safest place in country because nothing ever happened. I mean, even after my injury. I never been shot at two never gotten engagement with the enemy. None of that stuff. So. Yeah. White cloud. So when we finally did get until. When we did. Finally, get stuff is one I got moved out to Kat on out on the at the time as furthest out on the tip of the horn of Pange way. So it was like right there in the like the really bad area in. So I was excited because we're gonna start work. And we did we picked at a touch him Zach number now, it was like eight or ten total. But I was only at moosh on for about a month month in the half before I got injured and things are starting to really pick up on the time. I actually stepped on aiding hurt kind of a weird mentality to takes plane to people that haven't worked in kind of a field that is dangerous. But you're also a little bit of adrenaline junkie to like want to do that stuff to like be excited when you like, oh man like this could get dangerous. But like, I really wanna do it like any M S when we got these calls that were like really horrific. Oh, we're gonna go to shooting or stabbing or something like gal do at a mall amped. And then. Yeah, it's like really terrible someone's dying. But you're you wanna do your job. I imagine. Kinda similar feeling. You had when you're like. All right, cool. We could finally like clear some bombs and do some stuff after having not done it for multiple deployments. What you spend much time training at making it your job is your life. And then for me, I would love to deployments full. I was like there's no chance of any of the happened in Saudi Arabia. And then the last two just nothing really happening. And you're kind of getting on a kind of sucks because you're not doing the job that you want to do. And then we finally get a chance to do it. Like, the the biggest mission I had in my whole career was probably a couple of weeks before injured his with the Canadians in exact same place. I got injured at in. We end up having that was like six to eight eighties and in a post last won their vehicles at hit in ID. And so I had to go make the area safe in doing investigation on stuff they hit and I remember working on ID in looking at the stuff. I like the eighty pound AD right underneath me. As unlike send up the cut wires and stuff, and I'm like got this big smile. Finally, doing my work in it was it was a pretty amazing filling 'cause you're like similar like I shouldn't be so excited about this. But I'm just got this huge smile. Face. Like, I'm doing my work in. It was actually filling in that was that was the best mission. I had pre much tire career because at the end of it like I was spent like we were hard like all day on this mission. And I was done in the Canadians K guys wanna ride we got to hop on top of their tank rather tank out. It was a pretty amazing specially in air force out in the middle of the combat zone with bunch Canadians right on their tank through bombed-out area is pretty awesome. Like GI Joe shit that you like wanna do even less, right? That's what the recurs tell you. You're gonna do, but you end up cleaning toilets. Instead, it was it was Chris area that that I got injured in his Pete calls a market in his call the Taliban. Bizarre it used to be a market, but it's where the Taliban would have their meetings. They knew it. So they completely destroyed it so it just rubble. I mean, there is nothing there in prior to me getting injured they had a the odiaun guys special forces guys that when when they're I think they're in. So I see whatever he he stepped on. He stepped on ID in killed him instantly. In kilter toper like maybe one hundred dollars away from where I got injured. And so they called air striking's premature level that whole place. They got tired of dealing with the stuff that was going on there. But the problem is that orien- place of ton ID's in the area that we knew of and they're still doing it. So as extremely dangerous, but yeah, the market really wasn't a market it used to be. But yeah, that's called the Taliban are at least that's what it was explained to me from the guys that were there with is that was where the Taliban would have their meetings. So going back to your injury. So you come to realize Asian on the ground. What what does it feel like when you get injured? What are you thinking? My first thought was like it kind of popped my head of. Okay. What happened? You know, why this happened what I possibly step on? And so I'm in my head trying to think of these things in that will back to think of what was in that little weapons cash because at weapons cash for maybe ten fifteen yards away from where I got hit. So I'm thinking, okay. I saw what kind of landmines their assault other things put together. What what's my head? So I know my team mate, I'm called the him. I got hit. I think is what I stepped on watch out for this. It's not clear yet. So in my head, I'm trying to think of like the safety of the scene, I guess 'cause instantly like I knew something was gonna be right with me what I actually could sponsor seen stuff, and I looked down. I didn't know I can tell how bad my injuries were because my left leg, which is missing below like mid shin was actually tucked under my right leg. Am I right? Which was destroyed. Schalken blasted my head tells me from what I remember if my was on top of it my leg. So I'm looking down everything looked kind of. Okay, this and I'm like, this just doesn't seem right action in a crate and stepped on it. So some of that right here. I'm not gonna look anymore. I'm I don't wanna go into shock. Does. My I I don't wanna go into shock injuries in CIO abandoned of making shot. So I'm the focus on all the other stuff on the focus on. And I I should thought about certapro on turn. It gets. I didn't see like my injuries, which is kind of. Weird. So I didn't know what should be put on it gets. So I decided to focus on trying to let my guys know towns situation in get into safely possible. How much training had you had with turn it gets beforehand. I mean, I know in the army they'd drill as they make us go through combat lifesaver, which is the like advanced first aid stuff. And then obviously, I went through medical, but they drill us on high in tight with those cat turn. It gets. What did they teach you for medical stuff? Those same way. I did a comment lifesaver three times for each combat toilet. We have to go to combat lifesaver. At least the first two toss the IV's in nasal fair. Gills needle chest compressions in doing tourniquet tattoo. Stop bleeding, quick claw. Yeah. I think the last time I remember correctly. I know they stop doing a camera for the last supper for us. But they don't teach us the the ivy's or anything like that me more. But they still do teach get the turn it gets high up into the groin area and tried to times possible. The get it high as high up on limits possible as what we were taught to do. And how many? Turn it gets. Did you have on you? There's the I fact which is the the first aid kit. You have those I think have one did you carry extra carry at least two on us? So I which set how we had it. But we carry these little bottom pockets under legs. So we carry like safe France have it in the left left leg, which is close to the ankle carry one there, then your top right wit pockets on shoulders carry like, another one your shoulder. So you'd have like top right shoulder would be the one to get the bottom left ankle would be another case if you did Louis Allegra or arm, you can hopefully other side will have turned on with you in the might strap some tear your vest as well. And I can't remember I know at least carried to that. After that got just thinking about everybody else around you did you have kind of idea of how many people were around you. I really thought of his steps are of our number. My number two. I knew he was doing my safety backup. I knew he was gonna be the first one company. So. The only one I thought of at the time, and I talked to him. And then the next thing. I know he came up and started trying to turn it gets on me. His I remember him looking down. And then he I guess he could pry tell it my injuries were right away. Each pull my leg out of the way in then I think that's what realize it really was connected well anymore, and then he started the kits in the end it kind of blur. At that point. I still remember it all, but it's kind of a blur on how things happen. Yeah. But I know I guess I must be Pete in a few other guys that should have on me in the nets. When they started really starting do medical stuff. Trying to stabilize me. Do you have any sense of how long it took from like when the blast happened to how long Pete got to? You know, not really by said, I remember I get any was dove in. I don't know how long it took for PT a probably wasn't very long at all from where they're at. I mean, it was very far but the go around than through ravine to get to me to take the same route. I took the safest route said already been through that. I don't I can imagine it being more than few minutes, where are you in any pain? Did you start to realize like oh, there's injuries here. No, those worthiness. I don't really remember a lot of pain. I remember in. This was been after when p. Got to me because it's funny. The one first thoughts I had was I knew doves per non turn it gets on me. But I remember them always saying that it's gonna hurt like hell when they put attorney on. But it's gonna save your life in my head. I even thought this doesn't hurt at all. I don't feel anything from turn it gets. And I guess Pete did say later turn it gets worn on tight enough. But even then I don't remember even p came over. I don't remember redoing turn it gets in any pain from that. What I do. Remember? I think now looking back p talk about it. I remember a lot of pressure like filling a lot of intense pressure in that must've been digging my stuff trying to stop the bleeding with a hurry. But I don't. Yeah. I didn't have a lot of pain. It just a lot of pressure. Then in intense thirst like the worst, thirsty could ever imagine. That's what I had. It was horrible. That was the worst. The worst thing of the whole thing was the the unquenchable thirst because I know shocked you're not supposed to gain water. They gave me a lot. I drink a lot of water gave me I think I cleared out their water. That's how much. In just it was unquenchable. There's absolutely nothing to do to make a better that was part of the worst part of experience was that. That's interesting. I'm wondering if it was maybe from the blast maybe from the morphine or just the shunting end the fluid loss that you had they would cause that cause we don't ever think about thirst with trauma victims like that. I've heard it has a lot to do with maybe the blood loss head. I believe I lost a lot of blood in the funny things. I really go to the fire. Kevin right now, I have friends have been to school about to go through February that was talking in. It never really dawned on me that was actually dying at that time thing too. So as one of it is funny, though, like I I was talking to one the one the people might group that's the t- like two months ago sheet. Tomor my story. She's like realize you might in shocking dying. Right. I'm like, I really never thought of it like that. I mean, so it's been since two thousand eleven I didn't really think of how close I was dying. It was just that. It was just really very surreal experience. Yeah. It's not how you with thought. It was not like a whole screaming pain of stuff. I didn't start getting enough jump the gun on this one. But I didn't start really thinking in trouble in the situation until I heard apparently later Pete Cinta can't stop the bleeding. And that's why I started a mad. I wasn't in pain. Like, I know a remembered yelling as more of like anger, especially with my job because our? Job is the ID. Right. And I just got hit by ninety was actually searching for one with the tools and everything into me. I was like, you know, they got me. Yeah. I lost in. So just maybe angry. But that was that was it. I just I don't remember a lot of pain. I don't remember that kind of stuff. I dismember that pressure in the first. So when you heard pizza that he couldn't stop the bleeding, obviously, you're probably angry as you got blown up. But was there anger at Pete? I mean, even fleetingly in that moment, did you react towards me. No, it's funny. Like, I really don't know Pete. Like I met Pete when he was working on me. And then I didn't hear back from Pete until later on my buddy, Brian did his book. And then that's what we got connected again. There is nothing Hughes. Trying his best. I knew that. There is a time started kind of get together the Serbia Groot around, and I don't know how long it took for that to happen. But I knew they're doing everything they could to to get me a Staples possible in was hoping force. He could get stable. You know in our head. We've always been a greater that golden hour thing in. So I knew it was it was taken a long time in. So I was worried about like we're gonna go pass at our 'cause we started getting back to Kantar. And so when I heard peed saying that can't stop the bleeding in. I'm still bird. That's what start like, okay. This is not going great right now. So again. No, there's no, yeah. No blaming Peter on that. I didn't think you you meant that. Now just kind of in that that heated moment, it's so strange. It's weird thing that having worked a lot of traumas myself to have a conversation with your casualty later on. It's there's this really I was talking about this with my boyfriend last week and China expansion him because he's not a medical person. And I think you said you're going to EMT class in February, which is so awesome. That you don't realize it until you you've worked on someone that it is such a an intense. Hence thing to be in a stranger's life in kind of a very significant moment of their life. Where maybe it's their last moment. And sometimes it is end, you're giving everything you have and you know, them so intimately, but they really don't know who you are. And who Pete was. But usually people don't know you, and there's this weird anonymity that you have even though you're so deeply involved in their life. It's it's very strange than have that broken to talk with them. And it was weird. Like, even if like, I couldn't even see anyone's faces during the whole thing it's kind of kind of where like almost other than the one person did know, my teammates, I didn't really know the other guys. So it's all kind of like a faceless group of people around you. So you don't even really have a connection with any of these as I didn't even know who was the medic that was working on me because I had so many people trying to do stuff to help heat out. I would have never guessed the medic at that time. So it's yeah. It's a it's a weird situation to be in. Especially the patient in in that kind of environment like in the middle of no with everyone just over uniforms around us. They look the same anyway. Right. It was just very weird experience can't jumping ahead a bit. So like you're gonna be going to empty school. And obviously, you're gonna learn a bunch of stuff. But do you think there's things from your injury? They're going to impact the way that you are. Mt. Like saying, hey, I'm the medic maybe a little bit more. Clearly, they teach you do that anyways in EMT school. But being a bit more cognizant of certain things because you've had this experience. I don't think it'd be much different than if I hadn't experienced it. Just because it's kind of lay said, it's kind of commonsense. You like Stanley person is gonna wanna know what's going on in introduce yourself know, who you are working on him. I just know from the other side how much that stuff does help. So it might in a way helped me connect a little bit more and be more standing the situation. So maybe it's not such a patient caregiver gap right there. Like, I can understand the patient a lot more now. So I can put myself a lot easier into their shoes. Maybe read them a little bit better to see what might help them feel more comfortable. I don't know if that if that's gonna work find out, but. I could see where that would probably benefit. I wanna talk more about you, just graduated from the fire academy. Congratulations, by the way. I do wanna talk about that. But I kinda wanna say on this track because I I definitely jump around. So you said you didn't have any pain. I know Pete was giving you quite a bit of morphine. He said at one point you kinda started to realize. Okay time is passing. What what did that feel it you? It's funny. I didn't even realize morphine the he was giving me morphine. I didn't really start filming affects of it until right before they load me on the helicopter the helicopter thing. Because in my head. I said like once he started working on me than okay? I don't have to worry so much down here. And I could think about the situation in my head was like the whole like, you know, golden, our golden hour gotta get to get the role three which is a medical Sylvia, akin har- in the whole time. Like, okay, where's the was a helicopter at in my head? I'm like the whole time. Like, okay, I need to get out here but helicopter and nothing is coming in to me like. I can't really exact time. I know Brian did the stuff is actually able to find exact I came like thirty minutes or forty minutes before the helicobacter. But if those like if it was like forever, that's a long time. And I can't remember exactly brunt. Brian's got in his book the exact time. And then I've a friend actually did my post blast analysis. He's got the time of their to it effect a lot longer than that though. If it was forever. It was just driving on. But I brought the p the night heard them say lighter trying to get the bird, but the bird was common. So finally that time that's when the helicopter farm showed up in. I could is pretty crazy because laying on the ground and actually like showed up right in front of me. I could see I could hear come in like Mencia land right in front of in land of area where Ridgely started clearing it. Which is the most amazing sound in the world, by the way, when we start here that rotors is birds come to get you. But a yet. No because the whole thing that golden hour in. So that's what was made me think of that helicopter whole time. Like it needs a baiter. But I didn't know exactly how. Bad the communications have been at that point. And I didn't know that until I think even pizza he didn't even know to later on. Brian was doing the book that there is all that miscommunication got into the helicopter. These were not medical soldiers. This was not a medevac. This was a of which is. Yes, people that don't know medevac is in evacuation by medical soldiers. Medics flight medics, nurses, excetera Cavic is a non medical vehicle moving a casualty. So it's different. They don't have any equipment on their other than their own personal for steak. It's what was it like to get on that helicopter? It was pretty weird at that point is when the morphine really started kicking sauce film, or at least I was noticing that more. So I was like all kind of happy mood. I mean, even my buddy admitted joke to me at the time. So I'm actually laughing as they're put me on the helicopter. And so get me on in the two crew members on the helicopter one I knows talking with Pete for a little bit. And then the came, you know, he got dunked peed came to me that kind of got Scituate where to be on guys. Thanks for coming. Appreciate it. And they didn't say one word deem. It look at me. And then they went off and other parts helicopter. I'm like this. The worst damn medevac ever run the entire time. I'm in the helicopter. Not one person's even talking to me. They're not even not wanting. This is really not right. I'm Hiller, my PJ's air force where my PJ. And so I'm just sitting there laying there staring at the the roof of the helicopter now, my morphine, Hayes know, what's going on. Why no one's working on me? And so the whole time flying there nothing, and then when we landed at can't horror. That's when the medics I finally cut the C medics. I remember I don't know if she is who she was she is nurse urges someone like loading people on. But I remember in south along the lines of like, you know, you're got you. Now, you're gonna be safe. You know, you're gonna be okay. I remember just in that in not necessarily what she said. But the voice of just the comfort finally having some medical tension. I knew I was there. I knew gonna be fine at that point that amazing. That's. We say these things to patients end we kind of think that they fall on deaf ears. Sometimes we always want to provide comfort to people. We hope we do. But we never know that we do. So it's it's always really nice. When you hear the patient side that you actually get that across that you get that reassurance. Across. There's also there's also flips tears for what guy it was. It was one the army goes. And I remember it. I don't know how much he'd said it. But in my head it was almost like on repeat. But he kept going like, I think he's freaking out as much as anyone else within the situation in the helicopter or hospital star this go back. This is as a working at the site. In the army guy says right there in these filters. Automate you're doing great. You're you're making your family so privacy's crowding in. But in saying it, I think it was twice in my headache kept going in. It was so annoying. It was like, dude. Okay. Get it. I get it. Like folks on that. I'm like, dude, just stop. I didn't say anything. But I know like after the situation thing back of dude been really nervous because they just got into country in. I didn't know at the time that I was first patient Pete it ever work. Yeah. So the guys around all really young inexperienced guys in. So they're probably freaking out about the situation to and. Yeah. Like, it's laugh at the time was just really knowing. So you have the difference. Like, oh, you can't come for big also. All all of it was done big attention. So all of these things are I'm laughing so hard in my head because these are your new EMT's, your new, nurses. And when you get on the track wins, you realize you've got these total green kids at like to ignore their patients because they don't know what to say 'cause they're too nervous guys in the helicopter. And then there's the the nervous EMT's that are brand new, and they just like to talk, and they're really well intentioned in they just keep talking. I would have third writers or something like that you need to you need to chill out like they know they appreciate this. But like they're gonna punch you in the face because you gotta you gotta knock it off. Yeah. You should you. Can you can probably read your patient to kind of tell whether at if you're talking they're talking back to you. If they're not talking they're probably not focused on that as much. I I did appreciate them trying to much as much as he was because I don't even know how I've never had a deal with injured person before all my times. I never had anyone injured. I've had friends Inge. Killed. But I was never with them when it happened. So I didn't even know exactly how our direct in that situation. It's a the most people never know what it's like the rack message relation. Yeah. Some people are nervous talkers. And sometimes it depends on the situation. You learn as you get more experience. What you end up saying, you're like, oh, I shouldn't say that. Or I should focus on something else in you. Learn little tricks in your head like I've worked a lot of traumas, and I found myself getting to that really nervous point in. I could feel like myself shaking. I remember one time we're doing a traumatic arrests. And I felt like a leg shaking as I'm like hooking up the accident. And it was just okay. Big deep breaths and just count to ten in your head end. What I would always do when I knew I was going into a big trauma is put on my gloves like really really slowly as I'm counting attend. 'cause it was just my center yourself before you walk into this. You gotta practice dealing with that because someone is dying in front of you. And you don't know how you're gonna react until you do it and every. Ones. Well intentioned. But you gotta you gotta practice. I guess and the Pete was the only Medicare so that guy that was reassuring you he hasn't even been to a class other than seal on how to do this. I think Pete said he trained someone a little bit more on Sierras to help him. So it's no wonder that you know, he was a little bit annoying. Maybe. Yeah. I know. I knew I knew those guys because in bid just guy in the country too. I mean, I think there there what maybe a couple of weeks of that much as far as being in the the new everything was was new for laws guys. So when you got to can't heart this what was it like in the hospital there? So it was familiar load me in the lady center things that I just felt more comfort in they're all around me than they're they're taking back and at this point on kind of now kind of really fill in the morphine in the I could sense what they're doing rolling inside a building in. I guess Dr woman his robes like, you know, hey, we got you here. We're gonna we're gonna be okay. I need a check for Turner bleeding. Hold on. This could be uncomfortable from shuttle shoves checking for internal bleeding, and I remember being there enough. The Tom like the bought me drink first. And then literally that is the last thing I remember gonna finish finger showed up my butt saying that in they must give me something put me out. I was done out guys. Next memory. I have is. Is apparently they're trying to give me an MRI or cat skin. Because I started wake up in there as putting into the machine in when the guy's team would play the game portal Puerto to on a camera XBox or something as a game where like shoot these portals go through these holes pop through another portal to go through these holes in for some reason, I thought that the machine was a portal in. They're trying to shed me a porter. I'm not going in the portal give me out here. And I'm like freaking out because for some reason now might so high drugs pain now, I'm thinking I'm like in a video game auto, certified homebound or meal K, and I'm no Makkonen horrible. And I'm like hi as kind of early in loosening in a knocked out again. And then the next I have is wake up after all the surgeries. And I looked down in. I see my my left leg is gone. I do when it left before I got on the helicopter left leg below the news gone. I have no idea how I'd even notice ending right lake. And I look over my my right foot is over ninety degrees to the right in the got external fixate or attached to it. And I'm looking down on like that doesn't look right. But I thought ahead is like, I'm going home. I'm alive, you know, get you'll see my family. And that was honestly the first thought ahead woke up is looked down on like Malaysia messed up in in our. But I'm alive, and I'm going on my family, and that's all I cared about. And then I think passed up again in the next thing. I know. I came to the nets level chugging. Call back to talk my wife, the lettering was still still there and how how long after entry. Did you wake up and realize that you had the empty tation? Like what how much time passed? I'm not. I'm not really sure I'm not looked at the time on that. I don't even know if there's any way to find that out as suits all the same day because I got injured in the morning, but finally called talk my wife, she'd already know she'd already known for a little while that for hours, I think that I've been injured 'cause she'd been notified in the people showed up at my house. So it had been a while. Yeah. Head of been good time. I just don't know for sure, but it wasn't like a couple of days. It was maybe like one day or so, oh, I think it was the same day. How does your wife say that she reacted to that for hers actually as a really really rough experience. I imagine the day before I got injured to my good friends from our unit were killed out there. With the pathfinders. So is that one of worst stays in know, Afghan war for for coalition forces because I think we lost total eight year servicemembers in that one in two of them were my my friends in their air force. Eighty Tech's techs Soulsby in staffs are handy. So that just happened and we're not. You know, you're not allowed to call back until your family anything because you're on the complex outs. I knew that. This is going to get out that it was bad enough that the news was gonna report something. And so I just said had just let you know. Okay of that happened. But I'm okay in. That's when I think he had the time was she was getting up for heard a or about to go to bed, and then I was doing some time. I worked out she found out that that before she the bed, and so we went on a dinner mission in she ended up seeing it on the news about some bad happened Afghantistan, and then I wanted to my mission hurt. So the next morning. She is woken up at like early in the morning from my supervisor stationed at joint base Lewis, mcchord mcchord side, and my supervisor called Kate. According to come answer the door and the calls like what's going on? She's like it's about Danny without talk to you. And she's like is he okay in she hesitated. And I guess she was asking who is with her. It was okay to say anything. I should know. He's he's alive. We we need to talk to you about him in. So she went downstairs in. That's when my supervisor commander chaplain. Alright the door so she officially got the knock at the door like most people fear, and so it was really really rough for her to to do that. But the footing about it was you know, they're in their GO vs. Dan. There's a couple of people in our neighbor that were the military and Nicole's like Auckland, people are gonna people are gonna know something happened with, you know, Danny with the car out here like were parked on the street in parked in front of a number of other servicemembers. So so she thought that was pretty associate she got the whole his what happens I notified her about. My buddies will happen with them and issue beds when she woke up she's like, I'm really talk about he told me everything's okay. But they didn't say that. There is a lot of confusion to with other people. They thought it was the same same mission. Where my my friends got killed because it was just. So close in time. I mean, it was like they got injured in the very next morning. I got injured. Yes. Without same mission. Technically, we weren't supposed to be out on that mission. They should add a safety stand down in. We should have been not doing anything during that time frame until we figured out. What was going on with theirs, but stuff happens? How long were you in Canada heart four in the hospital before you got transferred out of country? I think it was probably a day if that in then they got the flu meet bog REM, and then I went to bog room. And I was there for a little bit. I can't remember if they did it 'cause I've had I had surgeries along the way. More stabilizations more cleaning the wounds on some not a hundred percent shoot of like how many surgeries that had each spot 'cause from Ken art bar from blogger launched believe, which is in Germany big hospital there. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was launched a little, and I was there for think today at this point like they had me really sedated in Jimmy alley like being in a hallway on a gurney in. That's. Really own member from there, and then loaded me up on the C seventeen yet next thing, I know wicked about Walter Reed from Walter Reed. The they flew me over to fourteen Houston in San Antonio, Texas. And then that's where in obstain book on medical center. That's what it was at the time to go through the limb salvage in the other searchers to to really start working on me. How long did it take for you to get to fort Sam to program medical center? Ben, I don't I don't really remember that. I'd have to ask the coal. I really wasn't. Maybe a few days. That's fast. I don't I have to ask it was pretty quick. Because even the being told she's got to go to to San Antonio. It happened really fast for her son thinking it was a few days. I don't think much more than that. But I can't remember exactly time for I never really found out the time for him. I just wasn't gonna know what's going on. Understand few things. How long did you end up staying at fort Sam or keep saying Sam Brooke Army Medical Center Halloween? Their total initially impatient. For two months. It was it was rough. It took a long time. Because my limb salvage in the pain, they couldn't control my paints. They had to keep me. They're all stuff. They're doing trying to save might right laid. So there for two months in than I got released from the hospital, but they forgot to give me all my narcotics. And so I started what you call ambulance sending back in house back from other Vedra to and then there's a few other little surgeries and other things that came along the way, so I'd over three months, total impatient. But the initial was two months, but were they using to control your pain? If you don't for the pain, they were everything can imagine. Honestly, I was on Oxy onto lauded Percocet. I was on methadone is on the lauded fat. Now federal was on federal. Which is one of the wasn't forgot to give me when they released him hospital. Yeah. I got pictures with fennel pops. They gave up the max does federal pops. They had and I was like to see those candy. But they're also like combining all the stuff the same tight. So taking multiple things on time. They tried to nerve blocks tried to at the girl's house end up being the pain. Got so bad that they had put me on Ted Amine, drip. Yeah. So on that for while the made my wife signed like a waiver because they said go McComb on that once she's really apprehensive about have made do that. So. Yeah, anything can they had me on at one point that the Kennedy drip, because he said we've given the max out on everything we can give them in. It's doing absolutely nothing. Did the pain was horrible Kimmy did nothing except for put me I think about a week dozen there as just beat in the Hayes the whole time. That's all I remember just being literally a haze because everything was kinda foggy in. I don't even know if even help with the pain, I remember just being zoned out and then afterwards because it's they're doing it to trying to reboot my system. So that make the payments work again. Into nothing that frame that had to wear wore the Taylor spatial right leg because I lost so much bone on my leg yet grow like three or four inches of back. It was it was in the pain was just it's hard to describe how bad it was the best way that I remember at the time, I told Nicole like the way could describe as fellow put my four g my leg. Literally fortune my leg like Shelvin in the firmness in hammered. That's exactly what felt like like there's like she does have some video of me like talking, but I'm like rocking back and forth trying to stem the pain the, but nothing not even that patrols near flocks. Did nothing. Now, the pain is was it from nerve damage or growing the bone in that limb in the right like I think it's from everything which is still weird 'cause I had no pain prior to must be because the journal and everything going just filling in when the Taylor spatial frame. It's also keeps you later tension because they need that tension to help the phone grow. So I think that the fr. Name alone had the frame several the pins in bolts and stuff. I have five rings Footplate Footplate had all the pins going through my toes and everything in the funny thing is told me like, hey, the good news is no damage your ankles, shifting your lay because as the frame, so long my ankles destroyed outset useless how God it's actually kind of locked on self us. So I'm not I'm not a hundred percent show. What was causing all the pain? But I just know that I've never felt anything like it before in a hope never do again because it was excruciating pain for the first probably four months, and then after that, it was just really bad pain like bad bad like Noah prior, calling excruciating. What my normal was by in. But nothing ever helped us. They just released this new medication the FDA just approved this new opioid, and it's for really severe pain that can't be controlled with allotted fennel and everything like that. And it's so controversial because people are like we have this horrible opioid addiction. Problem. But if you're you if you're going through something like that, you need something stronger. So in very significant injuries, in special cases, we need stronger pain medications for certain people. It's it's a scary situation. Just because comes might my dad my father-in-law those struggled with addiction to prescription drugs. So when I was going to the hospital like I I wanted nothing. Do it even though I knew I needed. I was on everything imaginable. I didn't want it. I remembered it kept saying we can't stop your pain. We're gonna try methadone. I'm really told me methadone for some reason have all the stuff that was allied just didn't want. I was like, I'm not no, no more. I don't want any more. Nothing's working. I don't want anymore. And they kept forcing more stuff on there. Give me more stuff that I didn't want to tell my walk. They give me more and more. And it just make me mad because I'm getting more and more into the stuff in none of it's working. And I understand the need for for the pavements in the funny thing about his give me the meds. I'm like, you know, hey, how much he has giving some some. Medical marijuana. And they're like oh certify on sorry about that. But you're active duty can't give that to you. So fucking mad. I those the funniest thing in the world. I was like you give me like heroin in. I can't have that houses pretty it does. But then it goes on the other side of like, you know, you know, you need Markovics, I know other I know guys that have been hooked on our Connex because of habitation because it's it's ROY slippery slopes in another just depends on the person or what I've seen guys with less injuries than me hooked on stuff because just the little injury. They had Elia so in I'm here, just stuffed with the maximum. You can give someone in. I was able to get off with relatively no problem than the withdrawal issues have worked through the withdrawal stuff making sure you did safely that was taking so long get off because my levels were so high, and I I did experience withdrawal. When they give me my narcotics one of which was the fennel that was so bad. I thought as a die little at the time. I had here I'm trying to Redmond hair out. And you know, I'm gonna ER throwing stuff around. I can't control my. Self. It was it was scary. So I understand being on our understand like the fear of which walls because it is actually terrifying. There was like almost as close to film like I was gonna die. It was actually gonna blown up. So it's a the narcotic stuff is a it's a scary thing to do. There's a huge issue with opioid addiction in servicemembers, especially after they've been injured because certain people are just more predisposed to getting addicted to anything. But then also there's a big issue with TI an association with opioid addiction. I used to work in opioid addiction as practitioner, and it's it's terrible that you get injured then you get prescribe narcotics very legitimately. And then now you can't stop because that's just how these work and hits a slippery slope. So how did you how did you get off of it? How did your pain stop went? When did that change? I still had the pay said it really wasn't doing much. So I myself decided to get off the stuff, and I started winning myself off while the doctor like no, you don't get too much pain. You know, you don't wanna get off this stuff, but the whole time like I just wanna get off his it's not helping in making really sick. I was it'd be so bad, especially right after the hospital, my wife, Nicole. She would take me in have to be in a wheelchair and she wrote me out to the car, and I'm like throwing up as being rolled out to my karma parking lot in the karma drive on the freeway there and I'd have to pull over on the freeways throw up. And then I'd get there like as it got to the base throat begin. Just turn around go home. The how much do therapy. But at that point, I knew I just had to get off it 'cause it's making so sick. So I just weaned myself off to slowly got myself all the stuff it took a while. I think it was the first year I was off stuff after that really started reading off those F timeframe, but weaned myself off, and I I really don't take any payments at all for my pain. I just take Motrin. I just I just have a real dislike for any kind of cottage as far as that's concerned stays far wave of can d still have pay. Now. I imagine you would still have pain, but how significant is the pain? And what is the thing that's painful now, I do like IVA agenda Roma on the bottom. My my residual on the right side in. So that can be a pain. It really can start flared up in. Gimme a lot of zingers call it zapping the nerve or just like really tight pain like Cosmo such drive by right side is the one where I get the limb southside it's most painful by far like right now we're supposed to for the fire Cadmus like last do might anything on the. Grounds. You know, we had our less PT day in. I don't run. That's what I don't want is can't really do it right now. But could do everything else into the last wants to go run like three miles as you know, I'm gonna go my team ago him see what I can do, and I didn't have my running leg because I'd ever wanted to try and make a little easier. It turned it from jog into kind of a walk shuffle from fit, but like this morning. I woke up my ankle, it feels like some of the candidate nail through it. Like, if I if I walk at wrong to second such a horrible pain in ankle like like, it's gonna collapse in a lot of nerve pain from all the damage show leg the ASO most days, I don't really have a lot of pain in. I can just deal with it in. If I do have some of this whatever it's of like in the back of my head early. Doesn't bother me. This work. It's flared up in it hurts really bad. And I might go take Motrin. But that's about it. It's pretty impressive that Motrin can control it after everything. I don't think it does. I think it's like mealy said I'm trying something to make the way like I don't I don't take into rotten anymore. I'll do any of that stuff. I have other meds at flight hype blood pressure in thyroid hate being on that. I don't have to want to be on the myth. It's a painting to Viking deal with it. If Helen did they have you in physical therapy? Do you still do physical therapy? No, I was put at least two years. I was kinda it's kinda pointless because I was in that frame in. I couldn't really walk at put. No, wait on it at about ten months when they took the Footplate portion off in then I was actually able to kind of walk a little bit better. But at that point, I'm walk with light canes crutches. And then when the rest of the stuff came off, that's when I was able to start really walking. And I was able to get casted for you. Is called they called my Deo brace in the military embrace to hangar in with this action. Would you stuff second? This was scare the the canes. Crutches walk in do whatever I need, no problems. It's funny. Like, I was in the power looking for while I still lift in the gym of mud Hijja doing the fire cat. Yeah. And all this stuff. If I don't have my brace. I kidding walk. So I could walk for a little bit like a walk my bed to the bathroom or kind of hobble around. But without it. I would load in a wheelchair or WT right now. So it's it's kind of crazy stuff on N Dylan, all because of this one device, which is amazing. It's like an artificial lake because it really makes up for what I can't do with my leg. So having been through all of this. And so many years later now, I mean, I'm sure it doesn't seem like it's that far away. But what would you tell someone that kind of just got injured with is there anything like any advice? You would give to them. Like, hey, watch out for this or tips or anything. One of them is always get this day positive. Don't. Shoot too high on what you're not right away the optimistic, but don't be unrealistic. I guess you employed that 'cause like one situation I had with me was they could come like, hey, you're gonna go to Germany. We're gonna send you Jimmy to go. Meet your guys they come back in. And I'm like, all right. I'm gonna go see my guys come back in specified in Germany. I was still hospital like another month after my guys got back from Afghanistan. I thought it was gonna be up and running or at least walking in. I really didn't walk from us a year. But people are telling me those kind of things like you're gonna do this. And that so I thought any year honestly, also got a thousand running in. I was not even walking where the point. So if people the more honest cave is giving really challenge is getting really difficult. We're gonna go through but you can get through it. It's just gonna take time in his suck. But if you stay with it, you're gonna be okay. That's what town town like, you know, no matter how difficult is there's going to be an outcome. It's gonna be different that where you're at right now. We don't know exactly what the outcome's gonna be yet. But just get their tickets step by. Step push forward and take every milestone, like celebrate the hell out of it. Because those are big deals like for me when the biggest muscles. I had. Honestly, I what I was gonna stand up the P. I was so tired of sin Pena bottle or Leinna bottle. I was so happy to go Santa peak at that point it privately four four five months that was a huge deal for so just take every little milestone, like akin in just just be realistic. And don't get worried about the setbacks. There's always especially in injury like that you're gonna have an infection or you're gonna have something is not to work. Right. But just you know, what just deal with it? Buckled down a push forward. You know, you might not get where you wanna be. But it's gonna be a lot further than you are at that point. Just just stayed just a positive. How did you handle the setbacks emotionally? How did you stay kinda positive? I guess I'm gonna soom. You didn't you positive all the time? But how did you come back from those disappointments that you had you don't I don't know. I know there were there were a lot because. Like, I said had his expectations in the work coming around, and it was really hard families of the famous struggle really bad with with everything was going on in. Honestly think like the first time things started really push forward for me, you know, 'cause I got my very sauce or my frame off. I got the brace anti-israeli just outta shape. I was fat around. I was just not doing too good physically in one of my buddies can MS Kay. Dan, your big guy what you look into the gym like look in the parliament or something I was like, but how do that look my situation and he's like no seriously, go check this gym. I'm gonna check out this awesome. Jensen Tonio called the Olympic Jim one of my buddies. They're catcher keys a paralyzed in a wheelchair and his power amazingly strong at the time was bench like five hundred pounds in. So I started seeing other guys push myself in in. That's where it was. It was finally kinda getting away from film bad for yourself. Kind of just letting the pain in the the inability things dictate wonder life in say, I'm gonna. Do better of push myself more actually, see like, you might think. Like, oh, man. I can't do this. You don't know unless you do. So get in the gym actually allowed me to get stronger. It allowed me to which in turn really changed the way my body working it how may be able to do more matches the gym. But I should do more in joy life more. And then I got to see like, hey, I can actually do power. Actually, join listen heavyweights. It gave me new new outlook that hey, you know, I can start doing more more in even then like when I was in the gym. I was like even there's like can't get there's no inbuilt deadlist in my buddy, give it shot. I'm like, okay. Next don't dead lifted over five hundred pounds deal competition for that. And then like, oh, I can't do squat ankles had people helped me out and show me how to squawks can do squats. Not great. But I can I can do squats. And I can even if I do it. Right. It a good competition slot. Not great. But I can get it. So is the realize that you just don't know if you can do something unless you try it, right? I was I was always positivity can tell. There's a lot of things I did a lot like a lot of self doubt. But then I'd push it. And then then at the point where came to the fire kademi stuff later on life. It wasn't like, oh, I can't do this. We'll maybe I can see if I can't do this. What becomes comes? Once you start pushing stuff warrant along. Like, I can't do like, maybe I can see how it can do it. And you might not necessarily able to do it the way everyone else does. But you can find a way how you can do it in still get the mission done, you know, still doing the same outcome. Someone else. It just gives you the way you have to get it done. So what made you to go into the fire coming? What was so interesting about fire EMS and everything I mean, obviously thinks exploding being on fire is pretty related, but. There anything else that kind of spoke to you about it. Fires act was actually dreams kit that was muddled plan. Grow up. I wanna be a firefighter EMS was never instills. Not like really, my by thing that draws me to the career fully kinda comes along with it now in interest me, but you kinda have to be a wannabe firefighter. That was it. I remember as a kid backdraft came out. Oh god. What's funny now is that actually I just watched it again after the fire cabbie rouses? What a horrible movie that really has. So unrealistic when it's still so awesome. It's like as a kid like this is it. So that's what I wanna be there some things that kinda gone the way of that happening. I let it kind of discouraging and start doing a few other little jobs in than when nine eleven happened is what I want to join the military that went on for firefighter of air force. That's my goal. And I looked at other other jobs kind of as backups because it's really hard to be a firefighter. They don't have openings special air force. They really fast. So they have a couple of backup loans e OD this. Michael this religious to. I mean, this will be my backup to it. And it just took a hold it for path at Beith. So after everything kinda happened with my injury and recovery it took a long time. Because now where in Washington state took us a long time to get your this one settle. And then it took two years of fine fine. We want to be what we moved to Washington took a couple years to find find exactly where we're going to settle here. We moved again in our settle like no, now's the time. If I'm gonna make something happen. Do it now. And my wife's like watching get a fire department because they have fault here side of suit with this right at the time. They're just turned thirty eight. So like, I'm thirty seven years old. I'm not gonna get any younger, and I know how much more my body can take no muzzle use it life lifestyle can in went down to talk to the the cap down there. And he's like, I don't know what you can do here. I know you're motivated looks like you wanna do this. It's all dependent with the doctor say physical. I wanna talk to the doctors did a physical there. Kate whatever you can accomplish. All right. Cool. Give it a shot soon. We can do. And the funding was like the whole thing was. To go work with the fire department or health amount ethics called water, tenders bid, water trucks, and we live a little rural area Herat's they need people out here that can help drive these things. I'm like, you know, what I'll be happy. If I could just do that all get to wear uniform, the help fire department and sub doing that with them. They're like, hey, Dan, how fun while alcoves far? She gets let me go. And like, well, you know, what it takes about a year yet anti school had been with us about a year than if opening comes up semi fire cat. All right, cool. I'll try shoot for that. And it could have been even a month. Maybe a month later late. We got some openings for fire. Can anyone do it? And I'm like, well, I would. But I don't have like so what sign up in a you clients. Do it passed the interview all the physicals and everything like right fire kademi? So it went from a let's see what I can do the fire department the fire kademi every step was just like, okay? How much further can push. And another door to open. I'm like should I you know, what happened the draw you notice not like, I can do everything. Great. I can get everything done with that. We had the kademi. I dislike said we just find a way to the best way. You can do it. And I've been a final way to do pretty much everything suffer fit through a sixty toll. Like you're supposed to be like a simulate like self rescue. Where you gotta get through whole physically too. Big Marshall too big. That's the only thing I was not able accomplish on in kademi everything else able to do at that has nothing to do with your injury. That's you will are there are limitations like I finally fixed. I think when the funding is like doing search asking you're supposed to crawl do a lot of chronic across smokes. And because one leg I have is is this suspension setup. So it's like sleeve pulls on comics suction is how it hold on way. So you be crawling in Asia crawling. I swat what fortunately, but it kind of build up some moisture in kind of let's slide. So like the latest star. Slide off as I'm crawling on the ground in the guy behind like tapping your late to let you know KM Hainan in the tab on top the grabbed a lake in. So the goal my leg off so actually one trend like as I'm trying to come out like my leg got caught on in pull my like right off. So that I found okay. We got pin walks. Now. The the leg is actually locked pretty much security with a pin to my leg with the kind of set it has in this does not pulled off. So you just find different ways to make it work in with me. I got options as far as legs in braces and boots and also use fine. What commish works now if it all works while still you've done everything to pass the fire academy. But is there anything that? You're kinda worried about like when you're actually out there fighting a fire that would be a limitation for you that might impact safety or something are kinda anything that you're a little bit concerned about going forward with it not really worried as much as safety. I know that there's things I still need more work on to make it work it work at better. But like without having the ankles. I have doing rooftop operations. Depend on the pitch at Ruth is very difficult at ways of making it work. But that's just need a little more practice at it. And then they do a leg. Lock on the ladder where you wrap relate through the wrong on the ladder rapper ankle round security seeking work in do stuff with a without having hands tach ladder, but still be secure. I can't actually lock my lady. So he's a ladder Bill if I had boots at work the promise to is my my brace makes it hard to find boots. So like SEIs thirteen normally in the boots will really hard finals that fits their actualize fifteen us which made walk around Klang, which is hard to do. So it's really hard to fit him through the the ladder while I have shoes fit better. So that might make it a little easier. So there's nothing I'd say make it a danger for me to do anything. It. Just more practice. I need to make things kind of fine. Tune it refined with the way, I do it. If ever been like, a, hey, we're gonna set you up, you know, kind of make things easier for you the whole. Time has been will let you do whatever you can do yourself. You know, we're gonna give you the opportunity to accomplish. If you can do it. They great. It's kind of leading me prove on by me, actually -ccomplish. So that's really been amazing. I never wanted. Like if I can't do it. I don't wanna do like that's not how I I don't wanna be given a here's a job consider cripple. I want to be able to to do it because I wanna be a firefighter. That's the whole thing. I don't wanna be firefighter with Nasser next month. I want to be able to do the job in it for some reason. I can't do it. Then at least as I appreciate the chance to do it in. If I didn't think I could do it. I would honest outback out. I don't feel there's nothing I can't do right now. And I just really crucial given a chance to prove that. So what does the next up you're going to be taking the empty class in? February. Are you now on the department? It's still volunteer department. Or is it a fulltime staff department? How do they work at their? It's a crude apartment, but they have altars too. So the way it works is, you know, they have their volunteer. Firefighters have occurred firefighters, and then the volunteers will help them out of all time to come in and work with them. Do. That kind of stuff as firefighters or EMT's I will defy for Thiessen. So he can help them either way that right now how that's working out. So be volunteer firefighter with them and helping out as much as I can when I can in if they need any help other things I can I can come on board the next step after that. I got a few other certifications try and do EMT firefighter to, but hopefully, it kind of turn around to be career in apply to do occur position in the future. That's awesome. It's a really great job. It's a great job. Especially after you've done the military, and you want that kind of brotherhood feel and you want any want the excitement, I think being a first responder fits very much in with that. If there's a reason that so many veterans go into the fire service after military service by being around the guys in the they'll talk again, most of our veterans or more. But it's just like being the military in the way, they talk with each other the way the joke each other. It's it's got the same kind of fills did in the military. Yeah. So I'm practitioner, I have not been injured you being on the other side of it. What would you tell the medical providers that that traded you or that would be treating someone senior position like will be really good thing for us to know, if we're going to treat somebody like what's a big thing that people missed or that they did really well that was really beneficial to you that we can help other people with what's interesting because I actually got to do this exact that exact thing really go fort Sam actually had a the invited me come in into a Skype with doctors, nurses at Kantar. So they weren't the exact guys that worked on me. But they're the same same crew that was doing the same job. I guess it worked did in there. Asking like one of the biggest question, I guess a lot of medical guys are having was guy comes in injuries are so severe. It's like she shouldn't be alive, wearable, save them. But as is called life would be okay. It's worth savings of if they have these kind of injuries. Are they going to have a good call enough life? The words like with keep them alive. And it's pretty bad. That it's gotten to the point where you know, yet to think like that, but medical technologists so low you can save people that should never feet should be alive in. They're able to bring back three Tak about that. All the time when it comes to ICU's in critical care. Yeah. Yeah. So I was talk about that. It's like I wasn't like hope I was on those those same ones that you think of that was saving. But you know, my thing is like if you can do it do it in let them let them see what they can do with their lives because they're missing three or four limbs in they're doing great things with, you know, those guys with burns from like huge portions bodies that are doing amazing things of their life that they should never be alive right in looking at them whether in that condition of freshly injured, they look like there. There's no chance at life for them. Given that shot, you know, you guys are doing your job or doing a great job at it. Don't worry about think of it like that. Because put the ball back in our court to let us do the best. We can with her life in new in. They're doing a great job of that. They're saving people like every day that are. That should have been here. And I know like even with my injuries. They don't seem as they bad. If this is like Vietnam IB dead right now because technology changes so much since then improbably desert's even in the beginning of the war. I data in for sure would not be walking around. Even if I did I definitely WTO not have a right leg, and I would not doing stuff on. So, you know, talking vettix. It's just it's it's a hard job with they're doing. They're doing a great job at it. When you're working on guys like us in year round that kind of stuff just think like that would don't like what you would want in that situation. Because if you're looking at you're seeing how bad it looks. You're not really thinking of like the later and gain a what they can do you're looking at like if I was like this. I would not wanna live. But if you're in the situation, pretty sure you'd look up the guy like just helped me live. You know, give me a chance if that makes sense. Yeah. Of course, I don't know if I rambled on on that one. Hopefully, the point of that was great. It's so hard for us on our side, we try and like the bigger picture, but you see something so horrific in that moment, and you then watch all the bad examples, you watch the people that are kept alive for too long, especially the elderly that should have died. More naturally, obviously. That's not your case. But you see the people that are worth things go wrong. 'cause they're the ones that say in the hospital. We don't see the people that do well because they do well on they leave. It's really great for us to get a different perspective of people that are helped end move onto have happy lives, and what happy life looks like even though that's not the life. They had beforehand. Yeah. Exactly. So is there anything else about your story that we kinda didn't touch on? Trying to think we've got a lot of it a lot of it down. I know Pete got quite a bit of doubt, it that's one of the great things with getting connected with Pete against Bryant here in his podcast is it health filling allow the gaps in the story of what happened during my injury. Like, I didn't know about the issue the helicopter. If it wasn't for Brian. I would never been able to talk to Pete funneled later on about the whole bleeding issue. Like how he actually was it will stop the bleeding. But it was just the residual whatever coming out so have opportunity to talk to Pete here from Peden in here. In talk news been actually therapy for myself who helped me figure out other things going on deeming. No, we're going on like, listen the podcast. He did with you the day any mentioned about how there's gunfire after my idea exploded, I even know about that. Honestly, never heard that until I heard the podcast. So it's it's really kind of interesting to be able to kind of go back into that story in kind of Philip back in because there's other there's other things that happened during the. That is really good to see if that's actually something that happened or not like I remember when they're loaded me from the whole to the bird the helicopter. I'm asking buddy. If is my leg gone, and he's like, oh, yeah. Still there in a look down in my memory tells me look down the summit foot in a plastic bag facing and thinking that there's no way that's gonna. Yeah. I lost that legates model. But then I don't know if that's an actual member that happened. You know is at the night was made up in my head. So it's having ability to to do this in talk to people in special ones that were there like Pete. It's been really great for me. And I'm joy doing that kind of. I really appreciate you coming on the podcast and talking to me about this than just kinda sharing your side of the story. It's it's always wonderful to get a different perspective for us. I mean, even though obviously you are not my patient, but to get your view end to see medicine from a different world. Because obviously sick people are why we do this. So it's wonderful to get. That view. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. So it's credible. Talking Toy Story in especially to the kind of people that work on people like me during that that bad time that really helps the Bill the bigger picture of the situation not just for myself. But what other people are going through? Appreciate that opportunity. Is there any organization or anything that you wanna plug that was like helpful for you in your recovery? Any anything that you want me to plug others multiple ones on that one yet? Yeah. Let's do it. So the first one that was there was the war foundation being air force e OD were right there for me if I ever need anything. I just ask them in. They'd make sure that give me whatever I needed to mazing mazing organization, the Semper fi fund America's fund was if I need anything. Well, they would help me out like Francis. I need I got my home. I need it right while more. Call them up front. Get your lung more that kind of stuff so Semper fi mayor's fund are just amazing organization today. They call me now than to check up. Me sellin. How doing says eighty were foundation in a really really big one is homes for troops. Home star troops built me the home out here in in Washington that is one hundred percent mortgage free, and it's complete barrier-free. So you know, if I have these my wheelchair to get around on my house. There's no problems with it. The bathroom is completely set up to where I could do anything into if I'm my wheelchair easily kitchen setup. Sing way lower counters pulled out things out of the cabinet. So you can reach fearing wheelchair. I stay out of my wheelchair as much as possible. But I know as I'm getting older, I'm catching the beat the hell out of myself that what bodies put me back wheelchair eventually. And I live in a home that I could grow into a never outgrow. I always have the village Medusa homes for our troops was amazing for that. And I know there's gonna be a few others as well. I know feel from right now, but there's a few others. There's been some not so good ones. Those are some of the amazing ones out there. So damn before you go. Oh, you had mentioned that you are going to be doing the L S stair climb in Seattle, and you're raising money for it. I couldn't climb the stairs. And I've never been injured. So tell me what you're doing will the first shells for me was actually traffic firefighter was the Kadam as like, you know, what I need to set another bar for me to do in. I I hate stairs. I even had him on the head to lakes. So I saw this coming up. It's the LS firefighter stair climb in with the whole thing is is it's a two thousand firefighters for other countries around the world are gonna go to the Columbia center in Seattle, and they're gonna climb or we're gonna climb and I'm gonna climb sixty nine floors the Columbus centers, actually, I think it's a second tallest building west of Mississippi. So my one legged self barely one leg itself is gonna climb a full bunker gear with SEA, which is the the air pack on while on air. So with the mask on on candy era back climate six floors, and all the money is gonna go towards the leukemia. Give me a phone society. And I have a page that is set up for my fundraiser right now on the LS wwl dot org page. So I can I can send you linked to that in hopefully guys could help with my fundraiser. And I will hopefully closely stuff is progress to get in towards that stage in afterwards, everyone how that went. I so I know there's firefighters EMT's, nurses, that are listening to this. We all hate leukemia lymphoma, Dan, thank you so much for taking the time to speak with me guys, go on over to his page and donate I'm gonna be posting the links, and then I will be posting updates as you are doing a stair climb. And hopefully, we will help read your fundraising goals how much do you have to fundraise? I've reached the minimum right now. But set a goal of eighteen hundred in sin at about five hundred ten right now. So still got a way to go to that initial goal that have in hope Nike as close as possible to it. All right. Well, I'm definitely going to donate. So if everyone else can donate to weaken gets you to that eighteen hundred. All everyone look on our Facebook page, which is Facebook slash antidotes podcast. Look on our Instagram antidotes podcast or on Twitter, antidotes pod. My Twitter is preceding N P or you can send me an Email at antidotes podcasts at g mail dot com. Connect with us on social media opposed any of those links to his donation page. You'll see me out donate and subscribe rate end review the podcast on I two. So we can know if you're enjoying it or not. And I hope you guys enjoyed this week show. Thank you so much Dan for taking all this time on a Sunday to me. Appreciate it.

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Patience  Building a Kingdom of Love with Msgr. John Esseff Podcast

Discerning Hearts - Catholic Podcasts

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Patience Building a Kingdom of Love with Msgr. John Esseff Podcast

"Welcome back Monsignor Asif It's so good to be talking to you. There's so many people out there love you so much. They were concerned about your health. Because you weren't on every day but it's not because you're ill or anything it's just that you're preparing for a very special presentation aren't you. Yes hi I really felt During these days of the coronavirus that covered nineteen. I guess the way we're referring to today but I really felt since this pandemic world has has come the whole world has come to realize that God is truly to one. Who's in charge? I think this has gotten the attention of the entire world. And so as we as Christians turn to the God who made this small little tiny universe of ours and is asking us to move to get along with one another and to love one another which is his main commandment and he Now kind of back in the picture and he said a small note. Stop your ballgames. Stop your work. You know cease to do those things that you were doing. And he his side recover standstill and for months. Now we have been kinda where we think is waiting for this thing to be over. Should we can be done with it and go back to our mad world again will while we have this time. And that's why I Chris and I were taking up. This is time with you that I I was a appearing with you daily for weeks and now for months that we during this time of the corona virus are trying to make sense of the entire world in which we live that is that God who made us and loves us and that God who sees us as our father and our creator and who made us out of love and who wants to have us. Each of US participate has his own child. What did he to two thousand twenty years to go. He's sent this very son of his into this world into this planet that now has the Corona virus twenty two thousand twenty years ago. He teases came into the world. And there's been a lot of history over this entire time but he is the major events of history and we we. We signed all time before and after his birth he was born two thousand twenty years ago. His name is Jesus. He was born in bathroom at Nazareth. He is the son of giving cod and he is the son of Mary. And when it was announced that he is going to calm thin in the year that he was born in to our into our planet and came in the flesh. He's actually a human person who is the divine son. He came overshadowed Mary and that's what's his beginning. So he is a three person. God the Father Sends The Sun. And now would he's he. He recreates him by overshadowing one of our members Murray and he who was born of her is the son of God. This is a three person. God He is a father and creator of the world. He is the son who has come into the world and in the year. Thirty three HE SUFFERS. He died and he rose from the dead is. Jesus conquered all of the enemies of mankind. Sin Was the reason why we became separated from God has a race. But he's the only human being that there was one his name was Jesus. He suffered and died and rose and he never sinned. He conquered sin. He also conquered the devil under whom all of us had come to be subject except his mother she was never under the power of sin and he conquered. Dow Death in the year. Thirty three he went back to. We usually so emphasize your forty days which he suffered and died but now we are going to wait and in pentecost. So that's what we're waiting for. Pentecost Pentecost the lured sent the Holy Spirit. Now he sent his son to accomplish their salvation for one man to Christ. He went back in his at the right hand of the father but in order to accomplish his plan which covers now the seven billion people that that's the ones we would really like to give the retreat to we'd like to give every tree to the billion was swims to the billion. Hindus to the binion at all of you who are are communists we would like to give to the Buddhists and to Jewish people with light to give it to all the world this retreat and this is what it would be designed for to make to universal of the pen. The pandemic is Universal. And we believe the what we really need is a universal solution to a universal problem. Which is what the pandemic is what did the pandemic to it. The Corona virus to it has awakened Saul. The we need some kind of answer. The answer is Jesus but says how is he going to do it? That's what we're going to share with you in today's in today's Gospel in today's readings rather the the apostles are being sent out on pentecost. Now win the they heard this. This is in the acts of the Apostles in the second chapter that Jesus is come into the apostles and he sends them out now when they heard this they were cut to the heart. Because Peter is he's been converted to be Jesus Peter on Pentecost has been transformed into Christ himself Gospels Teaching Most Catholics tone. Cata that Peter is to uses that he has been transformed into Christ at pentecost that he was so transformed into cheeses that he becomes Jesus himself and the whole accident. The Apostle for for the for this time is spelling out that Peter is Jesus and what is Peter could up and say the very thing that Jesus was told these people. What are we to do my brothers? They said to him. Peter said to them repent and be baptized. Every one of you in the name of Jesus for the forgiveness of your sins and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit for the promise is made to you and to your children and to all those four off who ever the lured. Our God will call. He testified with many other arguments and was exhorting them. Save yourselves this from this corrupt generation. Hase he saying to them exactly what God wanted them to hear. And this group or baptized and into them. The plan that would it? What baptism does it? Change them. That when baptized three thousand those who were accepted this message were baptized and about three thousand persons. Were added that day in the second chapter the axe when this group incomes Christian they became Christ. And that's what they believed. And that's what he said. And that's what we are here to try and re teach who everybody because so many because of the way we have told it this that we really don't know that we are Jesus in the world today so that even when someone like Peter says today in this age of the corona virus he and this is in the first letter of Peter his second chapter and he says beloved if you are patient when you suffer for doing what is good. This is a grace before Peter who is juices. In whom Christ is now living is seeing that. This suffering is Christ suffering in the Christian. He says if you are suffering and listen to what he says to these these Christians that he's now writing to if you are patient when you in in this in this corona virus. I wonder the great things that I find is so many or impatient with the suffering. They have such anguish with this suffering in Havana. When I when I talk to people and and sometimes I've able to to actually say this to a dying person in this age of a corona virus when I when I actually talked to people who are in the anguish of suffering. Be Patient with your suffering because this is GonNa end in glory when when I was talking to this rob who had a hundred and four fever and he was in intensive care and we all rallies around and we prayed to know what happened. The fever broke. It was a hundred four nine in that in that in and pray her and the power of prayer. And we've claimed to miracle the next day. He was not only auto there but he was discharged from the hospital and he was now. He is now undergoing Ten Day Ten days of quarantine to see that he can come back into his home where his father died from the virus and we're his mother had the virus and he himself is with his children and we'll be readmitted to it's this fantastic power that is the patients because it is the key. This corona virus is here. Not because it's so over coming to us because cheeses overcame because cheeses is the source power of all grace and. That's what Peter is telling his people when he is saying to them. If you are patient when you suffer doing what is good. This is a grace before God for to this. You have called because Christ also suffered for you. He is in you leaving you an example that you should follow in his footsteps he committed no sin and no deceit was found in his mouth when he was insulted he returned no insult when he suffered he took not threaten instead. He handed himself over to one who judges justly. He himself bore our sins in his body. You'll see the key to we talk about when we say Jesus died on the Cross when he knew that the corona virus was gonna come in our day he Jesus in the year thirty three gave us the key and he calls it in in the Gospel today when he was alive and with us he calls it that I am to gate. If you come through me then you will be entering into the gate you as a Christian. Come through me when you were baptized. When you received my life in you than I am in you I am the good shipper. I am the one who calls you. That's what he says today. Amen Amen I say to you. Whoever does not enter a sheep? Fold through the gate but climbs over elsewhere is a thief and a robber. Whoever enters through the gate is the shepherd of the sheep in who is at so win? This corona virus comes along and you are going through it be patient. She went through it for you. The one who is in you went through all that stuff free. Supposing your suffering is that you have lost a job supposing that you're suffering or supposing is your concern about the income. I went through it. Be Patient if you give this to me I will take it. I am in you. You are in. May We together can come through this. Where are you I am in you? Everyone one of you. Who is Christian? Today I am in you all all those. That's why I entered. Use this to those of you who are not Christian. Not that you have been excluded from the plan but it is snap those who are in me and I in them are really me in them. Certain service supposing. You're you're a priest and you're listening to me today as supposing you're very perplexed supposing your priest from Nebraska and and and you wonder what is this going on here you know? Is this is? What's the future here? They're starting to open up the economy and no don't be don't be concerned about what they're doing. Just come to me. Come into me I in you and you in me. There's there's a digital sermon is through him and with him and Indian who Jesus himself I am with you. Why are you so worried? Frustrated or impatient of not knowing what to do or how to act come to me Hobie spirit and I will guide you to the five the father. That's only one who wants this to happen. Had He sent his virus into the world. And there were two posing you the Bishop and and you don't know how to act or what to do with you should follow the governor or where they should follow whatever Popa Save. Supposing it's like what? What is the most practical thing to do to be patient because when you are going through is me? I am in charge. Truly I am the Lord and I have come through this over and over again. The Karuna virus is not in charge. I am I am the Lord. Jesus I am the Good Shepherd. The Gate keeper opens it for him and the sheep hear his voice as the shepherd calls his own sheep by name and leads them when he has driven out all his own he walks ahead of them and the sheep follow him because they recognize the voice his voice is of the Lord but they will not follow a stranger. They will run away from him because they do not recognize the voice of the stranger. I am a Holy Spirit. I am your God I am the father and I really am in charge and you are my child and I will never abandon you. If you're a father of a family and you don't know what to be patient be patient. I am the word I am in you and you really are in me. This is really what this whole thing is all about so offered. We want to know exactly what to do. Each of us will know what to do for the day. I have your father. And when you pray when you pray fridge since the prayer the our father when you pray this prayer our father who art in heaven you will say by the power of the Holy Spirit with total confidence our father who art Navon Jala would be vine name by kingdom come. Why will be done? It's really what you want. That's what I want and when I can say that with all my heart it's him who's in me saying that the father of a family and the mother of a family who will find peace in that family because it is the Holy Spirit jets praying and then you will pray. Give us this day hard daily grant. How much have over and over again always found out tonight. I always have enough for today. Hazar father of a family a mother. There's always been that which I can chair for. My children always the kind of wisdom that is in US as a family. Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against US visas not intimdation. Put us not to the test because really we are weak. Deliver us from the evil one for truly nine is the scene and the power and the gory forever. Senior really comes down to trust doesn't it? I mean it's it to have patience. You have to actually believe and trust that God is going to take care of you. Uh-huh that's a tough one. Nobody people are having a hard time and I don't know who to trust. You can't do. I trust the government. I trust the doctors. What about my employer really really keep my job? I mean that's tough all in its who. Who are you going to trust? Who are you going if we put our trusting God that that that's the one that we many times that that is the I believe. That's the rubble. The Corona Virus Founder. Sunder the rubble of a world. It was an entire world where I trust his and was told to trust it by self. Trust no-one except in your own self only you can work this through. And given that that that job to do mankind buckle and was weighs it down in over the with the weight of the world on man's shoulders. It was crushed under that way. I have to be right all the time and really is saying simply to all of us to mankind himself. Let me carry this. I made you and I'm the one who who can carry you and all of the world's problems I am Lagarde. Who made you and who loves you? And who has redeemed you and has sent you the Holy Spirit and you are now in the midst of this crisis and today this very day I am the one who will lead you out of this teases says today and the Good Shepherd. Amanda Amanda. I'd say she you. Whoever does not enter a sheet forward through the gate but climbs over another way is the robber to trust yourself to trust anyone else and whoever enters through the gate is shepherd of the sheep and I am Netscape is through me and with me and in me Monsignor yes. Isn't it true? I mean that when you think of when Jesus would actually come the apparitions of Jesus are so few but the ones that they're so powerful that he would come to a little little nuns like Saint Margaret Mary Alcott and tell her on the verge in the heart of the Janssen Est Movement and right on the eve of the French revolution which was horrific that he said. Trust me. And there's Little Fuss Tina come to her. On the verge of the apocalyptic nature of World War Two and say. Trust me now. There are people today who are experiencing this fire us in who are saying. Look the. It's almost time. It's the final warning and yet for those women and those men of those ages that was the many might have seen. That's it that's the final warning. That's the final time. Isn't it every day as a final warning? Really when we say they kingdom come. Are we saying bring it on now? I mean we've been saying that for two thousand years in fact that's what the early Christians used to cry. All the time clan Lord Jesus Come Leverage. Call OUT TO HIM TO COME. And when when when we call. I think what Jesus was doing with both Margaret Mary and with With Fuss Tina he was saying. Don't you see the ache? That's in me for you? And so Jesus is carly and calling for us. He loves us but I really think to today when I hear. The Corona virus is the father. The father saying come. My children come through him. Come to me through. Jesus he is the one he's little one and he's great with you. You are my child and who is that you are mine. I love you ill when he came to Little Teresa of Calcutta when he came to to Cinta when he came tennis the father when he came to the little ones he came to me. Who is that? That's knocking at your door. Today it's teases especially if you're a Christian is to father is the father and we've been taught to to be frank from it's your it's your Daddy. It's the one who loves you so watch especially if you're a Christian is the father but it's also the Holy Spirit who is in all of you who are not Christian when the Holy Spirit is poured into your heart you cry out from when we long for two one we long for today the one. Ics Most afraid of most terrified up is the two father when we have the most distorted view of God. It's the father who has the damaged image. You are the sun you are the daughter you are the child of God and it is you. He seeks what's all the love of your maker of your Creator put especially of your father. Final thought Monsignor of her. You are all we are the clay. Go Work of your hands. Mole US mold essenes size offs in to the edge. Haw your son hollow cheese your upper bless. Thank you so much monsignor. Thank you thank you so much.

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How to solve an investors most pressing pain points: Bryce Holdaway

Elevate: The Official Podcast of Elite Agent Magazine

36:49 min | 1 year ago

How to solve an investors most pressing pain points: Bryce Holdaway

"The average agents are risk. Because if they're just a marginal product within on adding any particular value will be challenged by technology and I will be replaced by the Prussia but the slightly better than average to the top agents are not going to because of the authorized relieved class. The top copy replaced You only think to elevate. The official pump cast of elite agent for real estate industry sales professionals property managers and leaders. We bring you the best minds in business in real estate to help you. List more. Sell more and elevate your results to download your written action guide from this podcast containing extra tips links and shootouts. Visit elite agent. Elevate DOT com. Now here's your host something the mcclay welcome to another episode of the elevate. Podcast where we dove into some of the most interesting minds in business and in real estate for the very best tips and strategies for you to implement. Elevate Your Business. I'm seth McLean editor of elite agent and host of this week show today. It's an absolute honor to welcome Brice. Holdaway partner at empower wealth buys agent and Co host of the Property. Cats podcast and co-host of location location. Location Australia originally from Perth. For over fifteen years brass's been assisting hind buys and investors nationally and overseas to purchase property in every state and territory around Australia. So welcome to the show. Bryce holdaway on her immune. It's an absolute pleasure to have you on someone so experienced in the property industry for almost two decades. You've got an amazing knowledge of strays property. Hot Spots we've all seen you on the television and everywhere else and listen to the podcast. Can you tell us how your property Janey Begin? The degree California Kansas from my hometown in couth and third year four year degree. I started to realize that I think I did accounting. Because my dad was a candidate not because really passionate about it. Mahathir was about one subway from the so. I used to get high watch and the midday show with Ryan. was on n downside as their expert. Tom and Jan summons came on and spoke to write not waterboard and chased out at Tokyo Bat. How you bought investment property more numbers And then if you buy enough of these things you can correct rule financial freedom and the clincher shares and the tenant and the tax man. It's not all of your bills and Ogg here that are why is everyone doing it. And so now as I get wiser realize that money is really simple but behaviors really hot and so I understand. Now the people get in there and why they hit spice in the relation lists but that really sparked in May a mission to find out as much as I possibly could about investing property let as a pathway that all went to Tyke and therefore I quickly realized that my career in chanting was probably shortly so I am then pursued the property industry not too long after I graduate roles in cancer. Yeah amazing and a resume the purchase your first investment property Iran about nineteen ninety nine in Perth an apartment that costs around two hundred thousand dollars but the Megan price at the time was a lot lower than that. So can you tell us about that experience? Yes the thing is. I had a mentor. At the time. Who said all you need is to get seven properties? In seven years on the idea you could actually have equity in the property and leave on that and then in the naughty harvest the second property in the tenth on the third and August. So wow that's amazing so actually fell in love with a concept and hide very little attention to the bricks and mortar concept of what Mexican accent roadside only go was to get my nine on a toddler had here are smarts zero though around should actually be buying a rotten. Which is the Rottweiler House all in eighty nine minutes and this was back as you said in nineteen ninety nine so I was actually twenty three hundred twenty tool and so I bought with a mental. We boarding a block of one hundred. It was a real Jim. Remain if you had to finance I'm Rod. Who is a hundred in? The block is a pool. A Kid Tiger lists occupying body colpaert phase for lifted. My apartment didn't even get to benefit from and you're caught rod if I reflect one hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred forty dollars for three bedroom apartment. When the median prosper housing? I was hundred S. Talk about missing the Mac but I consider that the greatest investment might because my observation. I said it before is money. Simple behaviors hot. It's the fact that Zony just over two million property investors in this country to actually got onto the property investing. Ladda set me up for one of and building a pool that some promoting most families passive income. Yeah absolutely so knowing what you nine. Now what would you do differently in? Perth would aboard a house. Because what's really interesting about this. China market is has the market guy in Australia. Wow really liked how many sub markets they're out in New South wiles. Little aren't Australia is hundreds and hundreds of Max I. I guess I probably would have better understood. That apartments were really will in Sydney because of the density don't work so willing tourist because the gnomes hats so what what has and then knowing what I nine now go to mind backyard whereas now on amperage to people that should be abolished invested. Because if you grew up in ovary will don't got all the back of book doesn't make sense to necessarily ball on your backyard because it might make sense to go some severe Have had tom again. Sign Opportunity I would buy a house in Sydney would have stretched me. Were saying a lot of money at the talent but the price was in the hundreds in Sydney which is ridiculous but at the Tom Similar money so I bought a gun of the scars on blinded. Population Cinta Tom. Wodel were speaking of different markets around Australia. We we know that the regions very different to the east coast very different to you. Know some of the other states like South Australia in Perth. Where you're from in location location location. You get to travel around Australia looking at different markets. What are some of the most interesting areas you sane lightly or really? Enjoy the fact that we could so much diversity in the talk of real estate sired. Malaya's showers golder skype from the city on the IB say which is an adaptation all skype to the country because now industry that necessarily skype the contract or if you think about the original location location location bicycle. That was people who are moving in London. Trying to alcohol also have above under than having lost choice out at Sawn. But if you look the program they similar properties bond has conversions or countryside's on skype Beautiful House in Had A beautiful briefing port. Douglas so good to say that sort of amazing tropical rainforests backdrop voices still remember the first song that location location location took me to Tasmania to say these amazing Rolling Hills website properties. Out just a beautiful landscape side the diversity of what we on offer in the sky from the city. I just did one where we had a budget of just seven hundred thousand in Toowoomba and when you think of that in comparison to Sydney Standards Seven hundred hundred give me a garage but in Toowoomba that that was well and truly up the main sewage things EPI properties with three hundred degree views. That were just unbelievably good side professionally blessed in that. August expires to sign much. Opt on Sydney's lower north shore up down the down the Brisbane Gawk of been lucky enough to be expired into transactions in every site in August have an on a transaction in military of Sydney. Be Nothing S- cutting it out the UNDECIDEDS TERRITORY. Though have actually. I'm heading up to Darwin for the first time in my life next month. Say Anything could happen. But I'm really interested in this concept of borderless investors knowing that mice of the audience. He listening in today. We'll be real estate. Professionals held a real estate professionals work with this trend towards paying a borderless investor depends if you're asking for them personally professionally because professionally. It's very difficult for them rock. I obviously earn an income from a transaction. Being an expert in the patches is something that sets them apart from the competition side paths. I was GonNa Tame as I understand how to Philadelphia for kaleidoscope meaning to spend the night that will that will get us in Sydney Brisbane advocacy at Boston. Mail when what we do for the right to do so. Ask that freedom to actually look across the border because wide Income is tied to the human being so it is a difficult for Personally certainly encourage them to do that professionally. I wonder if there's an opportunity for them to strike outs the conjunction relationships where I can I can still make sure. It's professional commercially While still serving the corner haunts us going to say that and with your experiences abayas agent some real estate agents don't like waking with buys agents and then some real estate agents really do. We've seen successful relationships unfold on shows like the block and stuff like that. What would you say to real estate agent in terms of working well with vase agent? What what are some tapes? They're looking festivals Because I do understand that. Some boys adversarial. I are actually talking to try and win business. Spa trying to do it at the expense of the Audio but if you think about the majority of Visayas Professionals who want to facilitate a transaction behalf they caught and I WANNA do a perfect scenario. Which is the opposite of Television? But perfect scenario. Is We get a brief? We clarify what they want to see what it looks like. We got into guy shot that caught in the testimony that is the perfect scenario whereas television produces high that I want to Mama twisted so if I realize that is goal of the That's also the goal of the listing. Is it I want to relisting I WANNA make sure the transactions go to that want to insulate An existing if I stayed. There's a meeting of the minds of two professionals who work with common. App come and shoal the both crossing the white line where this threshing it. Out On behalf of the vendor with rushing off at lot once we do gump chaikin sound seal. The next one. I think a restarted shooting bribes as industry. But I do get that. We've got some rocks which pleasant to deal with. Yeah absolutely but that he's good advice and I was. Just you just talked about the drama aspect of TV and we've seen you on TV work with some very nervous and anxious paypal over the years. Do you have any advice for agents on the other side? He might be dealing with nervous and anxious people. How do you calm them down and get the deal done while understand that For A REAL ESTATE AGENT. Who Does all day? Every day I have developed an immunity to have big diseases heart value transaction. So the the best night's As you building your experience you can easily forget it. It's a very big deal. So first of all acknowledging that ensued looking at the hidden agendas wrought because I WanNa make sure particularly if I'm acting on half the ball as I wanNA quickly work if agendas lawn. Because with a hidden agenda he wears a hidden criteria that on now which could be causing some anxiety. Because I want to know where the conflict exists you want to actually live in a city school of law but the other person transaction To Commute Ross. So that's a point of friction which is causing anxiety within their iron relationship. Lot Interaction that I'm having with the Clark so I'm trying to trying to get authenticity and to grant Sierras quickly can. So they're not gonNA address that I can make the invisible visible Charlotte The process is so then. If there's little to serve the listed nine this feel for for example on either assume periods of anxiety so frontal tops. The first month period always SOM- never in a hurry to find a property when I find a good property. I'm in a hurry so I front Signed that will take as long as it takes too fond but just not the we bought established properties. Not Brand new established properties and moves quickly. So let's be prepared for that. So why reverse? Nia what that looks like so I do a sit to bomb meeting when I guide the lawn. Decide this is what you're going to expect in that. Thirst anxious period. So is there any Christians cruising half the number two I send oneself engaged? The brave offset at a high of properties. Where there's a bit of disparity it's beautiful cross-sectional Senate at to them. Decide I kind. What do you think of these programs? Typically that just recently been Because what I want to flush out from us the hidden Because you're not when you guys through the guys price if you think about listing agents there in Atlanta drew everyone sort of in an anxious north yet. Everything's normal not till we get to the to the real coin into the business world. Something odd never accept what never go to auction. Never boy at tant has offshore which compensation earlier. So I do that to flush out some of those hidden. Questions that Martineau. Until the point and then the other bit is the other banks investors that would settle will. I get ten and Si- affront that looks like how we're GONNA proactively get appropriate manager Should look full always things so then I can really show them what the process looks like. Show them on. Tom Launch Minimal is any unknowns that Tom could come from holy stressful Tom with their on selling saw. Where the robotics design? Yeah interesting so it's a bit like the tip of the iceberg released so what this gangs. Id that you say outwardly is is. What's going on the top? But you take the time to find out what's underneath before you actually hit the road absolutely because it's GonNa Signed because sometimes for listing agent. Sometimes it can pretty gets to other agents. I understand that it's difficult to compare you. GotTa you gotTa give them the impression what has worth than might be the markets giving them information suggests that it's GonNa come. I understand that that's that's for. May offer go good? Fortune of having the relationship specifically with the clawed narrow issue then former real estate tweet fall in the one sound familiar. WanNA DIG DIG DIG. Dig Understand Anxious for me if all I'm trying to juggle a relationship with Who giving me an opportunity. And then will not touring up site. What McCain wants called fight that that actually isn't audio It's about managing expectations and realizing that some to quit growing into what's really gonNA run smooth transactions. Yeah absolutely and I just want to pick up on something else that you just said in your previous answer about the anxiety being around investors trying to find a good tenant. So there's probably a lot of property manager's listening to this podcast right about now. Do you think that finding a tenant is the top anxiety wants the properties Bain purchase for an investor? So do because that's the point way essentially. They're on there aren't now within abuses. We have a ninety day review than twelve month review. So we kind of side That ninety nine chat but for most people think that they've fees often. I went size all have a pie to march will ever get a tenant have made the wrong decision. Contact my friends because they're gonNA told poppy. Mayo licensed think so. That's the point where I feel will Jerry's Yvonne Ed attended. Trump will be part of that for me is to reassure them that I fought in an area that is in demand but also just reassuring if you connect up to a ought electrical an asset management property manager Roy Managed because the type of year these people at doing it as a form of self-funding. Never Solomon and we won't the property manager to Mike suggestions around while actually think if you put a wall in game yet cried another leaving room or on down the riot Pint tonight did a very. I'm Jay Reynolds son at night. Twenty thirty dollars to all sorts of value. Add exercises really what investors when a he because ultimately it probably manages go to tough. Joel and the why did I can mind time. That relationship with vendors to Adding Value Rodman Clinton Renton including the management verse. That's what you're referring to. There is what we're saying is a bit of a helicopter trend in the industry with damn pressure on management phasing property management. You know there's a lot of outsourcing going on of some of the ad main task and investors were saying a really looking for. The property manages to stop being a bit more proactive in terms. Of How do I add value to these s? It is there any advice that you can give property managers in dealing with the modern type invested. He might be looking for something different. You just understand the dogs at. I expect you to sort of using. Because it's a return on basement happen they add And always sites to invest stop is full of things that we're really protesting appropriate Assessing whether it's a good one or bad first one is the reason I like established. Properties is crisis historic On ever want to be the first person to buy real Testing THE PRICE. But if it on the second and subsequent could actually back test and see how that actually. It's pretty easy to number one on chickens. Carol royse potential number two. I want to have a yield. So I'm on three percent Euromonitor. Two and a Half Center. Forget aucoin four or four and a half today to John's but the third and the fourth one is a want to understand the viking. See Right because if I can get attendant that's going to fade into the anxiety and the fourth one is. I want to know what the qualities attendees because it's one thing to actually get attended but if I can't get him out damaging my asset than in the whole world pint Property BASES IN FLUSH WITH CASH. The balancing cashflow themselves drawing it to a point where it absorbed thankful things Part of the vernacular full property managers should really be thinking about that. The quality of the Senate vacancy writing this area. This what's considered at a to increase yield and just give him some comfort around the That they always property manager can distinguish themselves from the pack. I being hot of the discussion when you blind so in on buying a ACID OREGON. You should be talking to the property manages before you actually contract because the manages the person who has to inherit the asset after settlements joint letter. And if you next to a methamphetamine lab or nine undesirable area or it's a massive cut through has traffic schools are digging tonight. That may not tell you brought side whereas sows Answer even nitrous is going to tell you the positives in your business. Do you recommend property manages? Cheer Investors and. Is there a certain thing that y'all looking to work within a property manager didn't do so we interview the manages? We asked them the questions. But we get pasta because everyone's From that day they stock standard things. Nowadays the structure of the business is really important because quite often you have a business development manager WHO's Engages with the landlord gets him aboard and then the handed over to accrue from actual that crude has the ability to not necessarily lose standard of service that we're expecting that we usually get from the DM one of the tests we do is ring him up and leave a message saying quickly returned to cope. That's going to be a good zone. Way often five up not exclusively known. As a general rule. There are plenty of exceptions often. Five property managers. Who are just property. Managers Radicchio yet. Because that's cool business wrought rather than being trying to be sensitive but some some property management departments can just be a Business in the south Their energy and attention guys on the Property Management Department keeps a lot some withdrawing too fond the asset managers. Who are really being proactive and do a long term relationship with Hans with our vistas. What do you think the future looks like in terms of real estate offices You just talked about The Need to have a property manager of prison win the sales happening which I think is interesting. I mean some people do that now. Another papal still not not so much in favor of that approach but what did you say the future looking like in the real estate industry they run talking disruption. And all of that sort of thing. Look I'm on if a property manager what I would do proactively Myself someone that you can talk to try to making a decision so won't be putting up free reports. I'd be putting out videos. Putting content into the marketplace is that you are laid out and someone who can be seen as an authority. Because I'll get the view that people trust the Messenger. Ernie after I trust the message on Soviet can get in front of that miss. You decide that he's at the things you should look for when you're buying as he's in my experience what I've seen that Realize until after I've settled just sharing some of that wisdom all of a sudden would be reciprocity to sauce the vessel got. Wow this person is actually tron at valley tonight all WanNa talk to them so the proactively become an attraction sir during that. So odd artist glued at Saugus quit in terms of real estate industry on. I think on qualified enough because I'm not a listing agent in the die. But what I do now. Is that show? We can cut phase? But I think that's the answer because some of the very best ideas that you've had on your podcast can negotiate so much better than a cup cross A It's ridiculous. The net position is fi in five off of the experience. I just don't funny so what I do. Think is the risk for the Real Estate Agency for more. Apps is the average agents or risk. Because if they're just a modernized corn act without adding any particular value. I will be challenged by technology and by will be replaced by the press shop but the slightly better than average to the top agents on got to feel because of the authorized relieve the class. That's up pompey reply sports analogy so it's really about upskilling. Educating yourself on Property Investment Assad said that you know what value you can add to investors out there in the marketplace right now. A real estate agent for example can differentiate themselves by understanding some of the vernacular Was a real estate agent at least h how to put a campaign in Issue the photographer Caught up died Always things trump but not necessarily translate into if you were to just didn't have a compensation and invest. It doesn't really care what you'll campaign slot that I care that you can turn it around Loch so that top dog is side for the people in the landry trying to listing. It's the ball on the different vernacular. You need to you. Need to have that as part of your armory. Yeah absolutely speaking of upskilling and educating yourself. You've got a great podcast to called the property couch. Firstly you had had that stop. Yeah it was one of those ones with Um been more than we have a business Powell. He was the chair of the Investment Professionals of Australia so he was he was the first PORCO when they will make into plants and then we have a client by where we were saying people are properties that were just setting them back at best a decade but in some cases mole because of poor asset selection banks to buying the wrong exit and waived privilege them fortunate enough that the business was providing us with an incoming not been. We've both been in industry for twenty years. We had this luxury of being able to provide a podcast that allowed us to share out now. Back then five Back then there wasn't a lot of podcasts around. There's plenty now it was you. We didn't really know what it meant. We celebrated efforts ten thousand downloads Lart. We'd one united or grandfather will in our phone Sydney Fox We've now Six and a million Dan light so it's been a real surprise to us but it's been a real pleasure to say that you know someone put on put it this way. People will self identify three wines? The law the do it yourself crowd. W The do it with you. Crowd will do it for you crap and I feel like the podcast can serve all three hours. Where the do it yourself is can actually law the pros do it? Often tags on Sasha's which is really meaningful and fulfilling prices for us but then Tom will pay the stylists understated downfall. Make you guys to the authorities I trust the message. If entrust the Messenger and therefore They'll get us to do it for so I feel like it's a bit of a an opportunity for us to give back for something that served main Ben particularly well the last twenty as an APP families. I feel like this little mini lesson. They're in face to actually like you know if if you're a real estate agent listening to this as a done with you service and then there's a completely done for you service which a think plays into the trend that we're saying at the moment of consumers with choice like my choices. I WanNa pay you a life and I'm going to go and do these much of it myself. I'm GonNa pay you a premium and you're going to do everything foamy absolutely end and then just working out fits into academy but on on observing alert really. So I got an Eric every year on. Look at Sam. Some of the best players from five and the ones that are doing really well Samantha are the ones who I feel a during the the message before the Messenger. So what they're doing is providing real value that people can get some Tyco wise and therefore as a result be saying this no thirty. But I'm also seeing Jimmy. People do wrong where they're actually disguising high. Then look at this property. Look at may can help here and saw what would too early. Swipe will provide value us. Your provide value aspirin. You gotTA provide Value Oscar. Nothing then after the third got listed if some of this stuff resonance with you. Why don't you just get together? And have the Knicks model plot. The ones who are really doing well particularly with video others people. What's genuine tyke? Y and doesn't have to be complex because he might just do a quick video. That explains how do you exchange a contract in Yussef House because I grew up. W we're not exchange contracts often acceptance in Victoria here is offering acceptance. Where in New South Wales? That's unique to your state route. So why don't you just explain what exchange means explained to some designing gazumping the Mars real estate agents could reach that on their side with that too much if uploaded to youtube and therefore all of a sudden dispute these lines what happens when a finance clauses record. What should you look for? When there's a building section this Many tiny little nuggets and I think most people get carried away Go to make this world class event with some of the best videography talking to show in some of the much response to Youtube facebook lives. We've done just been scratching around rather than some of the stuff that we put out there. Oh Wow so. That won't fly with mental. Yeah Oh I think the other mistake is thinking that everyone knows it just because they know it so well I know. Sometimes I'll say an article for the magazine or something like that nothing. Everyone's heads up before but then they're not going to remember to eat it. Some people are just entering the industry like today so absolute rule tip never to light those. What is GonNa Speaking of Education? Are there any favorite episodes of the property couch that you can remember? That would be great. 'cause we like to leave links and things like that in the show nights. Are there any the particularly come to mind that people should listen to or checkout tombo people if they would listen to the first twenty episodes of our podcast all the fan I should? In fact warlock non is at the end of report cost. Nagy people the opportunity to download a pdf where you can get those top twenty episodes with all the framework so we can make sure. There's a link to that in the Shiites and also if anyone's interested you can get a free copy of my uncle the ABC onto She wanted free. God Scott at the kickoff All Awful the book or energy to do his pay for the postage to get into your hands. I'll send it to you so that is something you can do. And also we might money simply game. Which was the second book we ride but it was the prequel and largely. Because you know I mentioned before. Money is simple behaviors hot. So we've we've got money management system that you can manage your money in ten minutes of amount a month so you'd have democracy anything everything you do so that you can track more than you can actually choose to invest in LAS staller Invested in your future. So if you gotta make money simple again dot com the Radio Free Download or fat is a fear results. themselves actually. I'm skill themselves. Up in the investments by selecting Downloading that now sounds really good nobly sort of android asking a couple of questions like what's the best advice you've ever say you've said a couple of times during our chat now. That money is easy but behavior is hard. Is that the best piece of advice you've ever had? Yes first of all too real Steiner It's a very very stylish. Wonderful Asset Backed at the ballot Striving government will never let your house climate because took Dejan Buds but what I've observed is a either twenties during this same paper will put a plan in place of saying them then. Engaged is agent and then off saying them bar really great accidents that do really great things And then whatever reason I self sabotage I catch up with them three or four years later. This happened that haven't had to sell the war on earth we need to do is follow the Benton bow just the plant so then as you Wasi realized that people have money beliefs could be simple as you grow up your parents. Did I put that twenty place in your math. 'cause money's duty or you might have something that says as comedy guard or money doesn't grow on trees. Oil money equals work. I'm so people start to have these ingredients. I'm beliefs that undermined wanted. It is to go for your subconscious is designed to keep you safe and so if you were told that money's dirty you'll actually losing money just so you can't be cody but you don't have that frontal and you have acura onside. What I think is an immortal passionate Thomas to help pay on Cava up the money. Beliefs that day riled without those delays said. It's time that people who have money flying in and out of them side. There's an episode where we talked about that it's Essentially if you can imagine a trait of tron did this for an audience our audience because imagine a tray that has all these routes on the night and then in the soil and the trunk is there and then you've got the branch in the lakes most people. The branch in the labs is the equivalent of knowledge and action Rod. So what knowledge to I need? What action do I need? But the problem is the the roots that are in the in the grand a what needs to be watching guys waters leaves and branches they got award routes but INARA analogues. We got the branches next play. So the the money believes the roots. The soil is your external influences side. The some of the people that you spend your time with so it's been really I'm going to become an association. So that's soil and in the trunk is really going to latitude is what drives you think. So if you believe that. The fruit from the tree is largely around the strength of the roots of the trade so too narrow loss of strength of Aaron financial position is largely determined by the quality of the money beliefs that we have and if you have rubbish money beliefs you will continually have money come in and a half and you hitting it up against a warning ticket cognitive too stig because your subconscious is protecting you couple. That looks like that will continue to happen. Yeah really interesting actually. Just perfect memory. My grandmother actually said that exact same thing tomato with the new mouse that steady. I was any just ended. Our I remembered that some show that there's a lot of people probably nodding their heads along along with us right now. Why families about family or grew up in a middle class family But probably sort of low to middle end of middle class and dad worked two jobs anywhere love. Weekends and money was Grew up in the recession. We had to have so tomatoes Battlers start if I succeed therefore disassociate myself with my family and that doesn't feel safe will until I bring that up soon. I can't even. I don't have any windsor that I'll just keep D- Riley keep derailing Khidir out whereas now I now work. Allies believes anything that comes so basically anyone who has some form of resistance that it doesn't Feel Lazy. I have some the lakes It works once clear. It luggage results in clearing simply Festival identify secondly you go to weaken it? You've got to replace it. So it's the weakening comes from the rails. That's fantastic advice. Thank you very much for that. And thank you for joining us on the PODCAST that Spain. Absolutely amazing to meet you and have a chat to you and all the rest of it off to you. Know sort of saying you on social media and and all that sort of stuff for so long if there was one thing that you would like to leave listeners. With as a of listening to this podcast what would it be? It would be. That talked about money really. Isn't that difficult? If you if you. If you read that Book Samantha you'll realize that it is at primary level understanding there is just narrow it sawn in what some of them and it's actually just one God one critic hug one offset account and you pass that is it and you think this is too simple raw so it has to be the behavior that we spend more time on site on. All of your listeners are hard shapes our NAI- locked to chums themselves for personal growth. That I want to better themselves already. Charge them to work at if I've got any day Riley's or an manipulation and not only his Daimona even two extra tannock stick Jc All their in their NBC's just because they're getting out of there and Y. Yeah absolutely or getting into property investment. Which they're in a great position to do listen. I Brian The the challenge that I just had to you this year but surely a compact next year. So there's always that anxiety around the lack of continuity These lines outside to the realist To back yourself in because even you can even plant conservatively on having your income. So that you don't have to sort of found it. Whatnot was in lose sleep at not enough going on. You're in the front yard off the best investment class in my opinion so take advantage absolutely brushed holdaway so much. 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Ep. 2,807: Marlon Vera and Rob Font

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Ep. 2,807: Marlon Vera and Rob Font

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I don't know what I thought if I could just send it my way out of it. But yeah, no, I'm good. Do you guys? Pull your nose hairs out. Or now talk you know, that go ahead. Listener copper heart about five years ago for some reason. I mean, he's a cool dude a longtime listener, but you know, it's not like we hang out on weekends. He lived on one end of the the country. I lived in Vegas or whatever. But for some reason, he sent me a kind gift, and there was a nose trimmer. And I think it was because one day I was either complaining about it on the show or trigger you or someone busted, my balls or something he just sent it to me. It was one of the greatest gifts ever about once every two weeks once a month. I don't know, you know, you just kind of get in there. Emme you do it like in five seconds. And you're good to go, man. I definitely recommend it for all the fellas out there. Now, I did find out from goes from Cindy goes as a significant other that I guess the nose hairs do have a duty. So you can't just go in there and just whack away and get rid of them all just want to trim, you know, 'cause that's what catches Boogers. But anyway, there's my answer. I learned that the hard way. And so now now I'm addicted is pulling them out. But but like a tweets, I look. Yeah. Hurts if you do that you sneezing in herds dude, don't do that have trained myself today. It doesn't hurt. No more. He's like he's like sergeant Barnes and platoon. Take the paid. But now if I looked down for too long. There's no hairs the stop the Booker. So they were all right out right out that now goes kind of get one of those men, they're cheap. They're paying and you just you know, what they were doing. They would give me like little pimples or something, you know, 'cause inside your nose. Yeah. That's why I stopped doing it. Because I got scared because Tommy what you're supposed to wash it after your after you, do it. What electric right? And then, you know, it's not plugged in its battery. So the battery one and they just like wash it and then put the cover on and then don't touch it for another two weeks. Boom. Do it again rinse and repeat I've never had that problem or you haven't. Well, Tommy got one of those in junior high and it got to the size of like a lemon head inside of his nose. And he wouldn't go to the doctor finally went to the doctor, and they popped it, but it left behind like saggy skin that he still has to this day. And I'm always I was always afraid of getting that. So I just kinda pull him out. And plus it's fun. Dude. One time I had a white one. All right. A white nose here. Trust me, y'all hit this laugh now if you want, but you'll you'll you won't be laughing in ten to fifteen years. I had a grey one. And obviously just the nose here popping out. Does not look good. Imagine a great one. And I think we were driving somewhere. And so the lovely Juliet tells me that I have it. I knew I had it. I just forgot to get. So when she said it was like fuck, she's right? You know? And so so she said here, I think I have some tweezers in my purse, I let let me get it out or maybe it was at the house. I don't remember and I go all right. She did it and bro. It it's not the type of pain like like clay Matthews sacking quarterback or or taking a, you know, a CRO cop liver kick or nothing like that. It's I'm not gonna compare it to that. But it's just this little like you. You just pull it out. And it's as much pain as you can get out of that little hair coming out of your nose. That's almost equivalent to those others. I mean like goes, I think you might go into a sneeze attack. Maybe. And I just kind of turn away. It's like a severe funny elbow when you smash that I don't know how to explain a man. But I do not like it. That's why when you wanted to stop you in your tracks. Well, it didn't it depends. You gotta pull one at a time that you can't pull them all at once. Otherwise that for sure happens. But every now and again it won't hurt. But it makes does cause me to kind of do the sneezing thing. I don't have. I don't really have the sneezing attacks too much anymore. I used to when I was little but. Yeah. I've I've kinda gotten used to it. I need to stop. It's probably like same thing as like biting, your nails or something, right? Like, there's just no good out of it. Now, here's the other thing is the best best pair of tweezers ever, you guys. Yeah. Best paranoid guy do. Now. Man. I dunno. Julia was a cosmetologist and she went to Sally's or one of those specialty stores, and she gave me a pair that that works its money. But let me say one last thing, then I promise we'll talk may. Can't we? We. We had an uncle. That had. He was just older. Right. And he had ear hairs. We had a kind of like eyebrow. Hairs ear hairs just even hairs sticking out of a neck. And this was in Peru. I believe and I just remember like my grandma or sorry. Well, yeah, I think it was either. My grandma my mom saying, this is your uncle so and so one of the just see every twenty years, you know, I didn't even see him when every trip, but I remember over there. It's custom for a man to greet the man with a kiss on the cheek a hug and so in doing so I just remember doing it. But I remember doing it. And I think as I kissed this cheek one of his ear hairs tickled my nose. What the fuck like it? Just freaked me the fuck out. Right. And I remember thinking thinking about that until I started getting into my more formidable years or whatever and seeing that uncle and giggling back to when I was a kid and it happened. And then thinking to myself, I made a mental note on that day. I cannot be that guy. And so about ten years ago when I noticed my first ear hair, it was just a little tiny guy. I got to get rid of it. So I had a pair of tweezers. It wasn't that good. I felt like Daniela Russo trying to get the fly. You know, what the chopsticks I wouldn't get it on the first try, but eventually I would get it. But then Julia turned me onto a real good pair of tweezers. And now, I check them pretty much every Sunday man because they start the girl a little bit more and few more start to come in. And what you don't wanna be on a date with a girl or just out and about and then be that guy. And that guy is my uncle. It's funny. I only get a small little one that comes out. Ironically, I used to have plugs on a low Bridgen, but the what Georgia's talking about I had the exact same experience, George, but I even have just I don't wanna punish audience by just gotta just hack on real quick the exact same experience tickling and the kiss, and I have an impression ago go with it. 'cause there's my uncle car. Oh, my grandmother's second husband was old World War Two pilot, and he lost his leg to the diabetes. And he's like he it'd be heavy at daddy. Gave you how his and he always had it smelt like reeked reeked of scotch. Like, I'm surprised I like scotch now as a man because like I've heard forever associated with this, man. And he just smell of scotch that could be and avoiding the willow ear hairs like trying to slip in jive. And that was like part of my childhood, George. I can I can relate to this talking about not the pylon. But picture, right? You don't wanna which is flying on a broom picture the witch went straight into the year. But the broom got. That's what it looked like so good. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, all right today. We did have three guests up until the last hour. I think yesterday we may have promoted one arch. Aleta we still have time. Turn to maybe reschedule or whatever I like, WalMart a lot of Sinoe fighting person finally at a at a recent Delatour show, the one out into macula, and that do the tough guy. I remember he had prior to was last fight. He added incident with his daughter where he was driving to the fight and the daughter if I'm not mistaken by got this this, right? She had an epilepsy attack. Right goes or someone that I believe has some kind of seizure like at a camp or something, right? Yeah. And his family and his team came to his be half and told them, look, she's okay? We got her go out there and fight and win. So it was it was to hear that. And then to see him fi and see him emotional afterwards. Man. You just know these fighters carry a lot with them sometimes into these cages and rings. You know, that that we just don't know about it. So that's obviously why you'd kind of want to do your due diligence. If you're a better or a fantasy fighter you know. Try. And gather as much Infos possible, especially when it comes to high stakes if you're playing for fun. I get it. You're not gonna dig deep into everybody. But you'll often hear Dan talk about social media their Instagram. You know, take a look at that, man. See what they've been going through. You know, may maybe one of them is coming in at ninety five percent mental versus the other one coming in at one hundred percent mental. And they're both that you know as healthy as can be. But if somebody's carrying something that you don't know about it could make a difference. And then here's the flipside. Sometimes it can also be driving effect the same way. One artillery was driven by you know, his daughter Cinta Cavallo had a recent loss as well. And she was going through that. And you know, the wake gut thing that happened. Just prior to that. That's crazy man fighters. Life is is very very complicated. I was in say that that I know quite a few people that when they saw her way in they put pets really quick against her Cynthia. And then vote do man. In doing this show for as long as we have. I'm had fighters tell us like by the way, my tour, and I'm going into the spy and they still win. It's like. It's hard to really gauge that saying. Yeah. That's why I you know, I look if you have it, and you're responsible, and you're just a big money player. Hey, more power to you, man. But I don't know. I don't know that this is the sport. You wanna do that? I prefer low stakes with big wins. Which means I have to win a few, you know. But that's fine. I'm willing to do that. But just not lose a ton on one fighter. 'cause when you go in there, and that happens full man, the wasn't was it baby slice that was a huge favor recently. And he he got taken down. One amongst. Yeah. Yeah. Bells heard eligible, you get those sleepers like that. Because you're you're used to a lot of, you know, a lot of matchups where you think, you know, who the goes puts puts it. Well, you know, you're the one that says which matchup is a promotion, which, you know, which got is the promotion wanted to be put over here in that sense, usually tell that with Bella tour. That's all I'm trying to carefully say that. And I don't mean that in a bad way. It's it's a good thing. We could you could argue use more of that. But yeah, you'll get those those sleeper picks. I just say at the end of the day keep it to you know, to it being fun. I mean, even someone like myself who like puts more time on a researching than most, you know, I I don't get it right at half the time, especially especially now, or there's things that I miss, you know, information wise, where I go, and I looked like a ridiculous places and this and that, but like I missed a information on Ian Heinisch that he was already in shape and training four. And I was kind of you know, just like how goes and you guys are talking about people writing off Cavallo for the white minutes. I was. Like what this guy's making his debut in Brazil on four days notice. What the heck, you know against the guy who just told a Dana white contender series winner. That had a lot of hype on. I'm holy crap. All right. The I'll take a head. And then look what happened. You know? It's a tough nerve. You just you just don't know. You've got gotta you gotta cat to keep it fun. I think people have been around the game realize that you know. Yeah. And then don't sell yourself short, man. I mean, you're right up there at the top with Kenny. I think Trenton Bannon you guys are killing it. I gotta give it up. Man. You guys are just so consistent with the picks. So I I wouldn't say I think he said something about half the time. And I that's you know, you're selling yourself short, you guys, I think are going three for four or at least three for at least three for four somewhere in that range. I wanna I wanna say seventy five percent. So that's that's impressive. I'm like twenty twenty five picks behind and I I can't blame. Homering or something like that? You know on my behalf. I I guess I really do like underdogs a little bit too much. And sometimes my gambling theories transfer over little ones where hey, we just need to pick a winner here. And I don't get that. Right. But like I say kudos to you guys at the top. I appreciate that, man. Thanks. Where you're going with this Georgia, and you're right. I probably could be a lot better about this seeing that I'm everybody's real dad for the rest of this year. I'm very proud of you guys in how far you've come along in your picks. And I know that they'll be a new champion this year. And I just wanna say, I'm I'm very proud of all you guys. Whether you're at the top here. You guys all worked really hard. And I I should probably say that more often. What did you have like a Super Bowl hangover something you just too much drinking out of the Cup or? Yachting, you know in a bees or what happened? Okay. All right. I'm just I I'll tell you the torch won't be passed me. I think I think candy's running away with this one, man. I I slipped behind sense. I think it just I had the lead all the way till October. And then as soon as I told Brad, I think I'm like eight or nine picks by I don't really keep track. It it. I'm not trying to make an excuse. Like, I said this when I was on top on top of the leaderboard. My percentage went down my percentage because I go I have to keep myself on a different scale. I do full picks. Even though they're not accounted for I account for them. I do my podcasts and for the most part even though that kind of altered. I also displayed my picks may junkie. So it's hard. I can't just like play the contrary. You know, this is you know, you hear everybody in their fantasy football leagues right now. They're like, okay. Time to go Tabio contrarian. I'm planning from behind that doesn't really apply for me. I can't I can't just just pick to try to beat whoever's ahead of me because I have to write a whole article on why leading. The listeners we do that. It's misleading on a surface level. But especially for what you think my job actually, really is at the end of the day. So as long as George has long as I can get the analysis show my work for it. I'm happy camper mardi realistic about the picks. The how how that goes you can't you can't you can't really put too much value on that. I'm looking at it looks like it looks like Kenney is around sixty six percent of I want to be exact here. So close not close a Sony five, but definitely closer to seventy five than fifty. But that that's that's pretty solid. They're you know, what I mean, especially if you're parlaying them if you're parlaying omen someone's going sixty six percent. Even though a lot of these are big favorites. You're still winning. It's just yet. You're winning and smaller increments, but you're still winning and gone back to again good friend of the show Blake from nor Cal. He's winning. You know, he his payoffs may not be big for hitting six or seven teams when this case fights or whatever. But he's still winning in that there's something to be said for that. Oh, totally. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I'm saying my props. Honestly, just go to Kenny. He's keys a man. All right. So today, I don't know if I said it or not I think I mentioned one Archer letter. And I'm not sure if mention the other guys rob font will be on our show as will Marlin Veira and another quick reminder tomorrow will be our last show this week. We will be offered thanksgiving, and we will be off for the day after thanksgiving. So we'd be back the following Monday. After a forty weekend to recap the UFC the US gotta show in Beijing. I almost said Shanghai. But the reasons Shanghai's on my news because the new PI that they're gonna open there. And we'll talk about that a second. But the the blades versus in Ghana fight card. You know, we'll be here to recap that in the forty weekend. Just see how everybody everybody's doing. If everybody enjoyed the family time. So we'll just constantly keep reminding you to be saved some of you may even be starting. Your may have already started your little mini vacations taken these three days off or you're cutting out early today, and we're thankful for you. We hope you have. A safe holiday, you know, and and hopefully you're all back with us on Monday. And everybody's in a in a good mood, and maybe a couple of pounds, heavy radio hit that Jim McGinn. But regardless we what I wanted to remind our Sirius XM is we will have couple. Inorganic show in which we'll talk about our twenty five grade the twenty five greatest moments in the history, we call it greatest slash significant through our lenses myself goes, and Dan, so that'll be an organic show, and then Danny ochre has put together a kind of a best of we call it a Frankenstein show. But like a best of of some recent EMMY MMA junkie radio shows. So we hope you enjoy that. And you can always count on us on Sirius XM. We're not always excited when we have to do it. But once we do it. We have a good time with it. All right. Long. Didn't they? Well, even the ones that are one to twenty five. Yeah. Like the dating long. I mean. Made days run long. I've been here since like seven thirty today. I went to Ford really early fan. They got out on. So I was here. So I'm I'm already on. But I'm fired up you, George. Sort of they want me to say it. Yeah. They don't. Boone the muffler. I mean, why wouldn't you just feel it? Well, I'm one bore people. But they they found think there may be like a little leak there. And but it's nothing just to run a test to see where it actually add cost one hundred fifty bucks and the guys like, I think it's so small that don't worry about it. You know, just kind of keep an eye on it type thing. So they filled it back up and say, they got me on my way, they washed my car four digit, dude. I like the way they treat people. I'll go on I'll go on Iran. But which one which one do you go to garden or the other one? No, it doesn't it doesn't matter. I just have a more issue with the Ford Ford Motor Company just in general all the way back from them. You know, selling in being a part of sound false contracts old people and the Chicago land area to you know, to to the typical typical found on road, dead fix a report fix or repair daily found on redneck driveway, all the acronyms attached. And Now, Dan Tom how that karma came back because now I have the lemon afford. I have the worst of it as this was such a bad model that Ford, you know, I I don't think it because of this. But they're they got actually got a new CEO in twenty sixteen but they revamped now they're not they discontinued most of their cars, sedans, just trucks forward Ford discontinued cars. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I didn't hear that. Especially if you look at the quality of what they're what they're putting just ridiculous. I Don I I'll go on a separate rant. I I was glad to have you mentioned those long days. How you really feel those made me feel better that even even even even you know, I won't say whether pros sounds like a backhanded compliment seasoned veterans like yourselves feel that because I always feel like I'm apologizing tonight with guys with ear hair 'cause I'm almost positive to my listeners when when I squeeze in my podcast, explain like. I know my off if I sound more tired or particularly warn God it's been a long like I was like saying sounds like an excuse like it's been a long day. But it's true. I think you if you go past like three hours, you really start feeling it podcast wise, I think per per day. Three hour past as a first world problem. But like, you guys say it all the time, you feel it after the show, but you know, George you have your own routines after the show. You know, you you go for a nice little brisk walk, and you know. The frisk. I. Understand that the extra hour kind of adds to. But I'm not leaving like exhausted or anything like that. Is that is it nearly guys that much? Yeah. Mentally, it kinda messes with you. Well, I didn't know that. Okay. No. I just noticed that because. It was longer another fifty percent longer than what we're used to doing. But I shout out to the busted open guys. They do three hours a day. Lou Thomas, those three hours three hours a day. So one day. We'll ask them see how they feel about it. Because I believe both shows have been to our shows in the past. And I'm sure it was quite a switch with them. In fact, Greco man, he had to go from being an afternoon host to a morning host to a three hour, you know, host and it used to be him and Doug Morton if you recall and now, he's got two different hosts in bully Ray. And Mark Henry now, obviously who wouldn't want that problem actual professional fighters professional wrestler. Excuse me hall of famers, both of those guys and Tommy dreamer is quite frequent is a frequent co host. He's like twice a month or something like that. So I'm not trying to slight dug in any way. But still it's just two different people that you. Have to get used to. So one day. We'll ask David Greco the next time he's on. And by the way, speaking of that our heard them talking a little bit. I don't I didn't catch it. And I don't know if you guys did. But apparently Rhonda did well recently at survivor series against Charlotte flair. They just keep talking about the match and how she's becoming an even bigger star than they anticipated. So shout out to Rhonda Rousey, Manny magin that guys. Judoka bronze medalist the Olympics a world champion in mixed martial arts. And now a world champion in WWE. I know a lot of you are rubbed the wrong way by a personality at times, or maybe towards the end or whatever. But I know a lot of you are also fans, are you gotta respect that hustle. Well, you know, she didn't have like a new outfit right like. People have to understand like eventually, you're gonna fall into your groove right in a hamming, whatever she touches, basically puts everything into it. And it turns the gold, so I'm just happy that she's happy. Now, you know before it after those losses, you could tell what it did do mentally. And this is something that has rejuvenator sheep's created it again. I mean, that's very hard to find on this world people that can do stuff like that. I heard she's doing really well for what it's worth. But again, I'm going to say what I say every time we bring round arouse the up, and I don't know how many more times I'm going to say this, but happy for her, and I'm not following not because I don't like professional wrestling because I don't follow professional wrestling in, you know, mainly sucked into the MA. So I can't I can't weigh in too much. But but yeah, I hate to sound like a broken record. But, but yeah, my answer now will be we'll be all my answer, regardless of how well she does or doesn't do her character. Does I should say it doesn't do? Good for man. No, I is that a star Kathy. Good for her translated into the hot weather a little bit. No. It's not nothing personal. I think it's more me just. Trying to keep it somewhat real and flashed represent I think the the the minority of the majority of a lot of hardcore feelings about it. Where like why are we why are we covering this? Why are we spending time on this? Why are we this? Why are we that? And obviously we've worked for the media side. So we understand the balance is there and the reasons for that. But you know, I think it's I don't think there's anything wrong with voicing. What I think that a lot of the people what I see on on Twitter traffic, and again, mo- most importantly feel myself. Maybe that's all that was visit anything personal toward I brought it brought it up because it was a big pay per view over the weekend. And sure for sure I was talking about a show that's on our channel in busted open. So I just waited from one or the other. But I but not coming out. Coming out that for sure those guys have a good way of encapsulating things. You know that that kinda slip by me. Don't make no mistake. Dan. I didn't really like Rhonda's last two years in our sport, and how she handled herself. So when it comes to that she she definitely could have been a lot better towards the media towards her fans. But casting that aside, performance wise what she's done. It's been pretty impressive. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. I've seen a lot of good compliments for what it's worth as far as like from people who who I know follow that an aunt and criticize I'm trying to think like hope she comes though, go ahead goes if you look at Ken shamrock, he went over there and did pretty well. Right. I think like maybe maybe some people would have over there and just kind of collect the paycheck. But anytime there's been crossover. I mean, can you guys think of like somebody that went in either direction just kind of phoned it in like Brock came in and became a champ. I know there's a couple like lower level guys. But look at Matt riddle, Shane obeys ler. Like they crossed over there. And they're granted they haven't reached where Rhonda's now. But one one could almost say what they're doing is even more impressive because of the route that they took to do it. So I don't mention baiser. Apparently, she had a good performance to I can think of king MO and rampage and went to the schooling and just came up short. I think really was just. Yeah. Trig. I think there's was. Well trig. I think had a falling out with TNA. Rampage. I think is realized, wow, there's a lot more work than I thought, you know, in a lot of people forget, I think this guy can sit around and play games and actually make money, and I think with chemo each is realized my body can hold up to this because he really went pretty far into the training and and really immersed himself. But I think he felt like, hey, I'm still a top fifteen light-heavyweight or money weight, or whatever he wants to call it and mows one of those guys that's wrestled since he was a kid. So I think the body's just that's along, you know, when when you get used to being paid to perform three times a year, and I gotta go back and possibly get Russell a hundred times a year to get paid the same money or maybe less money. It becomes probably financial health decision. I agree. We should take our first break. I it's enemy junkie radio on fight nation channeling three we are still clear for this next half hour. Call in eight six six five two two two eight four six in the second hour, though, we will have a couple of interviews back to back. Marlin VERA who won this past Saturday at UFC fighting night one forty and then we'll also have a rob font on the show one of our favorites on the enemy junkie radio show. Stay close and don't touch that. Dial. King Kong has a lot of fit on them like a lot. Especially goes. They're gorgeous George goes. Get the radio channel numbers in a link to listen to your favorite NFL, college football, college basketball, NBA or NHL team sent right to your smart device. Just go to Sirius XM dot com slash sports today and click add to my calendar. And I was getting at. To my counter. That's all right. Sorry. I'm feeling kind of like gangster Spanish everytime. Cinta Calvia fights kinda rubs off on me for like a day or two mad love her her swag. You know what I mean? Imagine like cutting her off in the street, or whatever she's like smoothie or and fight mood or or bumping shoulders with their she'll tech you on. I love that girl. Man. She she's really really a tough chick. I'm a fan of hers. To help. Yeah. Exactly. She really is. It's kind of a sweetheart. She's like really nice. I was just about to say that. I mean like once once the fights done, and she comes down a few notches. Yeah. She'll give you good answers keeps the real funny jokes around. You know, we'll let you ask her a question that can be can be uncomfortable to ask you know, for her to answer. But yeah, no, she's she's she's really really that's a big fight for her, man. And okay. So here's a question guys. This one's one that everybody likes to tread lightly. But we gotta take it head on its part of the sport. Paulina? Bo tell you. All right. Did see seem a little less muscular to you guys in this fight not to make excuses for the Covey. Oh, fighter performance. I'm not making excuses in regards to that. But I could've sworn of senior a little bit more like lean in the past. I mean, you're talking about shoulders in particular. Right. Exactly. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It looked a little different. Yeah. Fight. It did come fight time. But I will say it looks like she's been sizing down like looking at her previously like a her first fight for our fights or above this division before the UFC, and I was just looking at her frame and how thickly muscle. She was on. My house is growing I'm gonna make wait. She makes Wade ends up winning her first fight by animus decision. Next fight looks you know, even more in shape, but slimmed-down, but more muscular, right, but slimmed-down this fight. She looked just as muscular heading into it from the Instagram reconnaissance if you will. But, but yeah, I if I want to be like super particular, I maybe a little bit slimmed down in the in the in the shoulder in the shoulder area. But but yeah, man, I hate to hate the we talking about this. But man is. Yeah, I don't I don't I don't know a lot of inconsistencies. I'll just say when we fight insert rounds or fighters from. Or fighters from certain regions. That's just that's just the fact that when or coordinating DS everybody everybody. I want to be fair. I I haven't heard of her ever having those types of problems, but still yes, whether there's a little bit of smoke, sometimes it can be a little bit of fire. You've heard it in her voice. You know, others many people have pointed to that being, you know. A tell you know, but still you have to be fair. She hasn't popped like teasha Torres is very muscular. I mean, very muscular one could easily point and go what about her? And yet, I think she's just an genetic freak. Honestly, she's got you know, good cardio. Just very very muscular. So who knows I guess we have to be fair and call it like it is. But what I like to do is. When a lot of people are thinking the same thing. It's I think it's fair to address it responsibly professionally and then we move on. And again, she hasn't ever popped. So we have to we have to end with that, you know. Yeah. I mean, there's quite a few of those girls that you could you could do that too. And they haven't pop so I mean, but I get where people are coming from. Yep. Guys. Let me ask you let me just Lobue an easy one. And Danny, you know, I don't have VX. So let me know we do have any callers, and we can start setting them up. We can get them in eight six six five two two two eight four six, but let me love an easy when you guys as we close the year we have about six weeks left right half of November. And all of December me three fights that you guys are just putting them hands together. You can't wait, you know, what rubbing them together. Like, I I can't wait to see. These three fights go down in order or just love the three. However, you want Holloway or tak- is a master. Right. My God see I mean as much as I bag on it. I kinda wanna see dillashaw NSA Huda. I think that'll I think the matchup itself there's gonna be a lot of nineteen goes oh for the end of this year. Yeah. Oh, my bad. I feel Mon and the sinus is going to be fun fight. Yeah. Yeah. I think they can kind of I don't think youth Mon is going to do what everybody thinks he's going to do in that fight at. I really think the finance can be a little bit of a of a maniac sometimes I think how stifle him. So I think that will be fun. And. My last one you got one, Dan. I remember starting Valentina and. Glenna, some good when I saw promo for that. And that kind of got me going the other day, go ahead Mayans just Ortega and Holloway Jones gusts to and Chandler premiss. Nice ones. Nice. All right. Yeah. I was almost thinking we could have done a draft. Honestly. And you know, because some of these kind of overlap it's hard to it's hard to not say Holloway or take. So I'm going to say it too. I don't want to just say. Yeah. I don't want to just say all you know, that wasn't mine or whatever Jones gusty. I mean, that's gonna be awesome to Amanda cyborg is going to be partying credible and special for women's MA for those two in particular. They're going to have a really really nice claim, you know, towards their immortalize ation. If that's a word premiums and Chandler's got bad blood, and it's kind of hits close to home for those that don't know Michael channel was actually our landlord for five years. So aside from being an extreme couture. Fighter originally, a nice guy. We've always you know fan Boyd for him. But you know, premise did something to them, you know, in that fight man with the with that lower leg kick that you gotta you gotta tip your hat to I know channels had a tough time handling that loss, and and maybe acknowledging exactly that technique, but. We saw with our own eyes. Man, we saw it in the the Johnson pseudo fight, you know, that almost came into play there too. But right. So for my three, I think I think probably those three I I really wanna see Lee Quinta. But I think if they built it up more than maybe I would squeeze out one or the other ones all all the other ones all have bad blood with the exceptional Holloway Ortega. But the hallway or take it doesn't need bad blood. You know what I mean? It's just gonna be special. So we'll see if leeann Iaquinta rampant up a little bit. But otherwise, I think those are are my three, but my point is there's some really good ones guys dose Santos in two to. We also you get to tell me you're not going to be on the edge of your seat for that one. I mean someone's going to sleep you know, what I in. Yeah. Either you there the old guard. You know, he he, you know, he stands guard and and protects his position and makes a comeback or maybe two of office is the real deal. But you know, that crowd in Australia is going to be be going nuts. So that one's going to be a pretty good one as well. So there's some really really nice fights that are shaping up here towards the end of the year. I know it's not. What we want and that's to get smothered with it every week, but the calendars there, we're not adjusting it. I mean, there's no way around it. Luckily, there's some really really good ones that are taking place. Good answers, guys. That would have been fun though, a draft and put together the best card. I know because we all would have been like damn it. You know when someone older fight. Yeah. We do. We didn't think that I went through at all. All right. Rachel Ostovic to give you a little bit of a slight update. She is out of the PVC fight. So her and page vans. And we're gonna fight at an ES one of the first ESPN plus events next week. In fact, the first one it's called UFC on ESPN, plus one and. We mentioned earlier in the week about the alleged domestic violence incident. But because that fight wasn't happening for another two months or so the the questions were being asked. Well, we'll she still fi an hour. Looks like she's been pulled from that. So there's the update on that. Joe Warren, the baddest man on the planet. He's gotta fight booked against Sean Bonn at Bella Tor to ten now Bella tour to ten is not that far away. That's like literally. Ten days. What are just kind of prizes? Me. That's on November thirtieth surprise me there with that fight booking. I kept thinking that one of the ones in December. And even that would be pretty quick. But. That kind of reminds you of pride a little bit. I know I know the UC's done that a little bit as well kind of like with a month ago. Here's a fiery, you know, that you weren't expecting but with ten days ago. It's almost starts reminded me of pride. Well, I know that that organization in particular day, they let their fighters know ahead of time, and they love breaking their own stories. But you're right. The that this is strange even for them. Yeah. I thought the same. Yeah. Well, if guys get paid, and they're in shape serve can both guys agree. Let's do it. But now, here's a fight. That's that's been added to January twenty six remember side-by-side? Do you see in bell tower torn January twenty six in the city of angels, Los Angeles. They'll be going head to head now to be more specific the UFC, you'll be forty five minutes, south of Los Angeles in Anaheim. But it's still like considered the greater Los Angeles area. I guess it's Orange County. That's the OC that's UC to thirty three. Like goes mentioned earlier, so hudo and dillashaw being one of the great fights is looking forward to that. That's the headliner there and then over at the forum in Inglewood, California, which is just just outside of ballet city per se, but still part of the greater L area. You have or million Anco versus Ryan Bater in the main event, but guess what they just add two guys half. It sees me Rafael Ovalles to junior versus gay guard massage Masasi will be defending his middleweight title. So that's a nice. To add there. Fassi's ever since he left. No, even right before he left UFC. He just had this like mean streak about him that came out of nowhere and ever since. Then man that is a guy that I just want to avoid now granted how are you going to deny a shot at fighting him. But right now massage he's I think he's looking great dude that's going to be a fun fight. But I I don't know. I wanna be Levato. That's for sure. There's no other way to put it the UC fucked up by by letting that guy go. Mossel mistake. This guy was a European who spoke good English who spoke. English in the fight from the fighting world where he can kinda get nasty and talk a little bit of smack still be colorful, creative funny. A lot of people at I said what's saucy trying to be but that was three years ago? And then he just kept doing it and doing it when I went on the different forums and chat rooms and things like that people were starting to embrace Bruce AUSSIE two point. Oh, you know, and. He I I mean, the Netherlands is a fighting country. It's a sporting country in to have somebody. That's wrapping that country when you have an exactly gone there. You know? And I think that's a country. You can make a splash in like, the UCLA cute. Splash in Ireland is Sweden Poland. I think is can be a good breeding ground for the UC and for future may fighters and the same goes for the Netherlands man, the Netherlands produces great great athletes. If I'm not mistaken. That country has the highest average for height. And I think it's all either man, male and female, but for sure it's just mail. So I mean there there's some athletic athletic. You know, big dudes out there that you can that can become future fighters. It's huge in kickboxing. I just felt like that was the country where if you had a good fighter star keep them there. You know, but they let that guy go. I mean, they'll never admit it. But I really feel like a garden with saucy was just a good company, man. And even though he was already fighting into like, I think he's in the forties or fifties in the amount of fights that he's had. He was pretty consistent guys. He was out there, and he was fighting and he was doing his job. I got really bugs me in that. They let him go. Speaking of which similar theme Masasi. How do you think Lorenzo Larkin felt this Saturday when two guys that he took he stopped pretty handily is pretty handily, Santiago funds abo Neil. Magni where the main event slot. True. Yeah. And he's out in Tel Aviv Israel, not not live. You know, he fought this past week, and it has got brushed under the rug. But anyway, all right. Let's. Was going to say, you know, what I find weird though about the whole Masasi thing is he's he had that little mean streak, right right before he left, and I think just a UFC thought, maybe he was putting on a front or something. But I think it goes back to in the past he has opportunity he's had opportunities to let that type of personality out and one in particular, twenty king mom, and chemo Ofcom Kermit, the frog he was coming at them and sausages kind kinda took the high road for that whole fight. And I think maybe if he would have done this a little earlier, and it's career I think he would have stayed with the UFC. But definitely I think they messed up on that one. I agree. Yeah. All right. We should take our last break. You're listening to Emma may junkie radio on Sirius XM's fight nation channel ninety three. Stay close. We'll be right back and sorry. I misspoke Larkin fought a few weeks ago Adel towards seven hundred bell towards I he did win by the way. He did win. All right. We'll be right back. This one's George and that one's goes now feel their rack. Get in the spirit of the holidays with Sirius XM's full lineup of holiday channels. If theme channels of commercial free holiday music, including holiday traditions on channel three Holly on channel four and near this year. The stars of hallmark channel present their holiday favorites on hallmark channel radio channel. Seventy get are completely holiday lineup at Sirius XM dot com slash holidays and bringing the holiday cheer into your home on siriusxm connected devices and speakers. All right, fellas. Iraqi for today's daily debate. We love doing the daily debate over here. And we are definitely ready. Let's do this. All right. Today's daily debate question brought to you by the MA junkie radio team who had the biggest breakout performance this past weekend. Ian hindsight's? Heinisch? I believe is is what? Heinisch? Okay. But even them cough, Brown penis or Johnnie Walker. Dan, Tommy, go first. Man a lot to choose from. I definitely I love of for deem nam coffee, and I wrote an article about him being the dark horse, and he's he's proven that true. Unfortunately, we didn't get to see him. And from what I hear. It was a slow match. It was a split decision. So I'll Mark him off there. I really love in an Heinisch story. And how can you overlook Brown penis? It's really really tough to do stiff competition here really stiff competition, but you gotta make the hard choice. And although I really love what Brown pain is brought to the table. You know, he showed some spinning stuff there over over in one. I I gotta go Johnny Walker. I mean, I'm still seeing articles about this guy and not a lot of people including people at the research on them. Like myself knew a lot about him and more and more seems to be coming out. So it's hard to not go. Johnny Walker for me. Goes. I had to take a break a little bit there for this poll is a lot harder than it. Normally is. So I'm going to have to go Johnny Walker as well. It's just the guy was impressive. It's just maybe it was a little bit of the antics that turned me off a little bit. But that when you're talking about an impact, that's probably what what stood out to a lot of people. So I'll go walk around this one. Yeah. I also thought long and hard about this one. But then I thought not come on it. It's really a no brainer. Johnny Walker stands out because just Khalil round. She had no moments in his fight at all. And he was devastating from start to finish. He was a little bit of an antagonize, her borderline. He'll but still the the way he dispatched to Khalil Roundtree was head and shoulders above everyone else shot out today on for Nadeem nam cough. He said it on the show. He said to me privately that that would be a tough fight for Phil Davis. But I just think that Johnny Walker broke. I he he was he was the head and shoulders above the other guys. I mean, there's there's there's no way around this one guys. Thank you to those that voted in. This is the breakdown eighty two percent for Johnny Walker. Nine percent for Ian Heinisch five percent for. Team name cough. Four percent for Brown. Penis. All right. That is today's daily debate brought to you by the way junkie radio team. Now in the second hour, we'll be talking to a couple of fighters. Marlin VERA from the same card is Johnny Walker. He got himself a win over Guido Canetti. And that was a great fight in fact for a while there it was Canadians night. Honestly, he was having some really really good moments in Marlin, very was having a rough go, but man that guy composed himself and came back strongly to get a huge huge win for them, and rob fonts gotta fight coming up against Sergio Pettus, and we're just weeks away from that. So we'll catch up with him and see how high his fight campus coming remember Sergio pedestals moving up to one hundred and thirty five to make that happen. I this is the quick update. It's the top of the hour break. We'll back in sixty seconds or less. I to sleep. Guys are terrible about taking care of their health. Whether it's a knee injury, bad back or something worse. Guys are usually more comfortable robbing some dirt on it. Then seeing a doctor I'm guilty of it myself. I had a bad back bad. It hit the other day. 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Wanted to give you guys a quick preview of the rankings. That will be published at every Tuesday USA today, sports and MA junkie produce the enemy junkie rankings or mostly be USA today sports slash junkie rankings and. We in compass, the whole sport. So many of us seeing the you see rankings, which is just UC, and we know the seas. Huge figure in the sport. So for for many that that's enough. But. We also cover Bella Tor one championship EFL other organizations that how Invicta the house some of the size want to give you a little preview of one big jump. Ricardo lamas getting that big win over the weekend. That guy man for the longest time was a top five guy for sure top ten guy. But with those two losses he took he kinda slip down. But he's earned a spot. Back into the top fifteen so shot out to Ricardo lamas big win over Elkins was number eight at the time that he lost two lamas. Now, that's two losses in a row for him Volkan kofsky and now Llamas before that that guy had won six straight, including one over Marsad Beck, Nick. So we'll see Elkins can pick himself up the same way Llamas picked himself up. All right. So Daniel give us the green light. When our guest is ready to go. I want to encourage you all if you get a chance we have a few podcasts related to the junkie radio family, excuse me, the the junky family, and that's M E junkie radio. And that's of course, us three you have the roadshow with Jon Morgan. And that's Jon Morgan and. Is pot in coal coffee. Kenny Hathaway, we also have been folks who's got his combing of podcasts along with his partner, Chad Dundas, and of course, all Dan, Tom with protect your neck. They're all available on I tunes, and we would love to get a review from you all if he ever have the time, please do that. Right us one to five stars. We love to hear from you. All right. So now moving on to our next guest. Our first guest, I should say Marlin VERA got a huge win out in Itis Argentina, he defeated Guido Canetti. And it was a great fight. I mean, I really really thoroughly enjoyed this fight. Marlin got the win via submission rear naked choke in the second round. And he joins us now on the hotline. What's up Marlin? Welcome back to EMMY junkie radio. Two. Marlin man that was that was that was really really fun fight to watch. But I know early on it didn't go the way you want. It you had to really really dig deep for this fight. What you did? And you came out the winner. It was a road game for you. You're going against the Argentinian. Tell me how much did you? Enjoy this experience even though early on. It didn't go your way. But the fact that you dug deep and still pulled off a great win in front of voice voice. Verse crowd. I really think. Was. No one that coaches wanted for me. I was expecting that come hard. So. A lot of all. Daddy started higher. You might be you might. Check my time. I knew it. New refers. I don't want it. Hello. And I knew it. I'm glad. The new. Can with everything. All done. But. I I. Kind of hurt me. But you know, you're in there, you gotta be prepared to be heard. So I'm not everything went, right? You know, what was more? Common. I did. And then when when the second run came on. I was like, okay. Tend to work now. Well, I will put you out. Marlin did you get a chance to watch the fight yet? I watched it. I'm a fine because. All the time. I watched I watch. Watch watch watch. In a lot. I feel fighting IQ get better. I get by watching by calling the fight. I'm a phone fighter. Hell, yeah. You are. I was watching it with a group of guys, and we were into it. And I don't know if when you run when you're at the airport or at the arena or just out in public if somebody tells you, hey, man, I love watching you. I don't know what that means to you. But I just got express I was with a room full of guys watch fights all the time. And all we all we kept saying was like damn look at that. Oh my God. It was fun, man. You you got you and Canetti went out. I really wish I really hope you guys get one of those Christmas bonuses or something because you guys deserve. It was a violent fight. A violent guy. So when I'm in there. Ready to go and fight. I always. Five. Become together. And I I that that that that's fun to do. I'm a fighter. Martial arts. Martial arts. Play. I respect at the end. But I like it. When people came to me, and they wall. Feed. My ego. Divide bar. They didn't spot if he'd done at both. That Ron one always looking forward dead better. New learn new stuff and. One of those guys that with a lot of fighting. So. I'm looking forward to be to be to get a lot of finish it. One of the most active. Winning. All about it. Marlin I want to ask you one last thing here educate me a little bit. Are you saying fighting Weadock Canetti you said you knew you had to take a couple because he was going to be strong in the first round. Is there any other way though, to still be oh Canetti without taking some of that damage, or is is does the fact remained that that's just the way that guy fights? And that's the way it goes only because I wouldn't wanna see you all your fights be that way. You know what? I mean, I care for you guys a lot, especially your long term health. It is for sure. Second down. But. Where do you get beat up? More than two that actually land. So I wasn't. I wasn't too worried about by my Brennan hill because when I'm outside com. All about it. My health a more about it than even the rice stuff that helped my brain superman for the brand fish oil all the good. I believe the right stuff. So get my brain. And my body at. Okay. Can before. And then what? One I knew watching like dramatic one graduate yet. But because he called why? But. I believe more in defense than often because throws a lot. Yeah. But everything arms. Shoulders. So that's why not. Lineker? He land more punches. Everything everything in the body. So. Went down because what you see. Coming. You when something out of nowhere? That's when you get Cao's. So. When I'm to speed up, the everything. Yeah. They can put me on the first one. But. I will come back. One. Tiny further is a cardio Brasher. Does what only can control preparation? Why don't you mention you never know? So. Lybrand healthy. Fight. People get into in the health. Stuff. Like, keep yourself healthy yourself. In good side of I'm one of those guys. So I take. Because. Marlin our guest here on MA junkie radio. Let me send it over to the guys in Vegas goes, what do you have for Marlin? Vera. Marlin after the fight you mentioned Ecuador and taking some fights out there. Did you get a chance to talk to anybody about that? Are we any closer to doing that? People you know, when you put stuff in there when you when you go for. Also believe in. They're kind of like. After two k os or one wants mission. Because. Everything's air. You ever done that? You never the local. I'm like well. Lago. Concerts. I did up to the fans, you know. By views. I find that for you. When you win, you know. Because that's in soccer when the team is winning everybody bet they Lewis and they say. The five to be more educated credit mortified. Culture sport and understand when when you lose it when you need the most support. You know, when you need that hawk when you need that that keep it up. War for. I'm doing my work and working. I believe I'm on. So. Language. In. Say the Mike. Well. Oh, what a more supportive all the. They wanted to. I do my job. But I can do you know? I was telling George the same thing about fans, and how they can be fickle this past week when Peru played Ecuador Ecuador beat them to nothing granted we sent our team. So next time we should have more fans and send a stronger team. But yeah, we were having that conversation as well. More than I thought at some point you would bring that up in Reverend in our faces, but I'm glad he didn't. Okay. There. Marlin. Did you hear that? Do we have Marlin with us gaze still connected. Marlin can you hear us here? I'm here. The last question. I was gonna ask you now with your you talked about Ecuador being your home. And now you have adopted home of southern California. There's a card in Anaheim. Is there any way you can turn it around and get on that card? Well, you know, me I'm always regicide a couple of days to my body heals. And then I will be backing Jim so. Couple of bunch in December. So if somebody got her. I might go in the bug. Joe? What's up do it? I will be networks because my teammates fighting of our Goto, the PI get some training, and you know, not dollars. If I know him a little bit. Shelby. Hey, let me know. But like I'm waiting one fifty right now. Like, he's putting back on a lot of way that I'm you know, it didn't like a nozzle. I'm meeting. Couple couple kids meals, you know, because you know, we're humans we need to treat ourselves. But I know that it's not right for me. I know even good for anything for no one in the world of I'm taking my my wife. Does you know, she always cooked writer home? We're very we're very clean, and I will give my way low I will be one fifty one forty nine. And when they call me other writing so. I will see what if any. I I do believe I like this point more a wig in three months. You got to do. Way. Let's get the win go back home. But you're right. The only thing I can do for now is that both get better make a lot of flashes. So I. From from fight. All right Marlin. Well, we want you on that card in January if you will. Well, if you take another short notice fight, you know, we're in you deserve it, you you've definitely earned the respect the fans and media fights never suck. So whatever you choose is great. I think I'd rather have you just rest enjoy the holidays and see you in January. But of course, it's your choice. Congratulations on that win. And we look forward to your next fight booking. Nineteen planting on Hemmings plan that I I'm just one that I cannot pay. No. But. Plan. For that. You know, I I would take care of the will enjoy I might say that kids today. You know, just trading ladle and. We'll be an amazing place to be. Place. What it will ask for? There you go Marlin barrel. Great talking to you enjoy thanksgiving and enjoy the holidays, and we'll talk to you soon. Thanks to all of you guys. Thank you for this. Awesome. All right. We hope to see you. And thank you very much. For your kind words. We'll talk to you soon. All right. You too. That's Marlin VeriFone. We're gonna bounce out for a quick commercial. When we come back. We'll talk to rob font, you'll see Banham east Biden Sergio Pettus at UFC on FOX thirty one taking place on December fifteenth. They were kicked off the set of the fast furious for being too loud and too good. Looking once again, here's gorgeous, Georgia goes get the radio channel numbers and linked to listen to your favorite NFL college. Football college basketball, NBA or NHL team send right to your smart device. Just go to siriusxm dot com slash sports today and click add to my calendar. All right. Thank you to Ed cat fur lining up. The Marlin VERA interview. And I believe he was also responsible for rob font. Also happy birthday to add cap. One of the top PR guys out there in mixed. Martial arts. Many always gives great pitches. He's always going to bat for his guys and gals. And and I gotta I gotta admit man every single person that comes through. That man's pitches. Always gives us a great interview. So I think we have two great ones lined up Marlin was very funny to talk to and he had such a tough fight out there and Itis Argentina now, we got rob font. He's headed till Milwaukee. Wisconsin on December fifteenth at you have seen on FOX thirty one he'll be facing Sergio Pettus. He joins us now on the hotline. What's rob font? What's going on you guys doing good? My man how you doing? All right, man. Stand back enjoying this. Beautiful snow hanging out. Come on sugar coating it. They're a little bit it might be beautiful to look at. But you know, it's a motherfucker, right? Shoveling and slip on it and slide on it. And the cars are all over the road. So yeah, don't find. Our our? Out today. It was horrible. How far is it normally? I'm glad he kept the real because otherwise we're gonna call them rob front instead of rob. He came correct. That's no fun for a day or two couple. Pictures snowball fight. But then after that it's like fucking me out of here. All right. And you're going to another cold spot, Milwaukee that's the final big Faulk show. But it's pretty cool. It's always pretty cool to be on on big. Fox's you know, you'll see headed towards ESPN next year. But I think it's always makes it easier for the fighters to tell their listener, you're their fans. Hey, man. Just put it on big FOX. You can catch me anywhere. Excited about the weather walkie excited for this big card. I'm excited to get out there and. Hometown. Yeah. So I wanted to ask you you thought in your hometown before was it an experience you enjoy or do you think Sergio Pettis? My. On the other side of the cue ball in. So in other words, many people love fighting in their hometown others despise it. So you get to be the road the road team here insurgents the home team. But how's it been your experience when it comes to fighting at home? And by that, I mean, all your friends and family, China, make them all happy. They all want a piece of you someone tickets, you know, their all texting you at the most inappropriate moments as you're trying to lose weight. How would you categorize being a hometown fighter? Perfect perfect. Everybody hits you up on way day, you know. You know? It's the worst feeling ever because you got to try to edit body. Everybody wants tickets, it's cool when you get out there. But as the build up. Fight week. It's the worst. I mean once you get into that crowd. That's it kind of makes. Yeah. I hear you think you're pretty much at least under the banner your to anno- at home. I think the only other fight you may have dropped in your career was Massachusetts fight. But it was like your second one ever. So for the most part it has worked out for you, rob fighting Sergio Pettus at see on FOX. Thirty one pet is coming up in weight. I know he's five bantamweight before. But there's a reason he's been flyweight. He's just a little bit of a smaller cat. What's supposed to your concerns when it comes to a guy that's a little bit smaller? Are they usually faster at slicker at all that or or do you think you can offset some of that because you're putting yourself? Yeah. Match. Match. Definitely feel the speed difference quicker. But yeah, I mean. My hands on it's going to be a short. Wpro. Route funds. I guess he on MMA junkie radio. Let me send it over to the guys in Vegas. Dan. Tom you go first what do you ever on? Hey, rob. I was just looking over on your Instagram. I tend to that with with fighters. See what see what's going on? But I haven't seen much post since July. Are we just kinda just just refocusing taking a break here? Media. Brought that up actually got locked out. My original verified one. By new at rob underscore on. If you could. I got locked out of it. Maybe right spoiled. All right. All right. Rob underscore font. Give us the. What's that? Check over. But it's been it's been a knowing man that I haven't got it yet. But yeah, if you don't mind, you know, rob underscore spot. Guy. All right. We'll help up that out there. That's that's the underscore in there for listeners listening right now. But you know, since got you on the phone is digital age. You know, let's get the real answer from the man himself like wh-. What have you been up to have? We changed anything in training and heavy may be added anything or you know. You know out side of the training is so so to speak since since that time. So I've I called on a condo. End of accurate. Fight. I I've been working out a lot with the main wrestling thing, I get the goal there. It really guys a week. So. Grind. I'm ready to I'm in there in the room. All these guys. The limits and all that. But. Pretty much the same. Right on man right on. And I don't think I got a chance to ask you this last time looking at looking at my notes, and obviously, you know, not not saying it 'cause we're interviewing you, I'm a real fan of your style. Rob real slick. Awesome standup. Obviously can't sleep on your jitsu. You showing you got you got some jokes and tricks up your bag, but anytime, I see a fighter that I really like their style, especially striking. I'm curious, you know, who they kinda look up to sometime, but someone within the sports, it's classic names from boxing. Sometimes it's just a coach that really really helped him along. You got any of those inspirations for yourself. A big fan of of Mark comic. I love the way. He he together, you know. He flipped in ripping. Doc and fan out of the kickboxer. Comic with a you know. Have that? How many fight sorry? That was a good. I'm glad you brought that one. Dan. Between. Yeah. That was a great fight back in the it was it w c Dan. Or was it you see WC forty nine at our something else. When you get a chain tech that one. Just saying we were just saying when you get a chance check out Eve's versus Mark comic. They threw down at forty nine years ago. Back and forth back and forth. Any find knocked ten at the end of the. Yeah. No doubt. All right. Let me send it over to goes goes, what do you have four? Rob font. Rob. When you when you look at the way Sergio fights in the way, you fight the pace that you guys set, and the aggression that you guys fight with is it gonna keep it real is going to be hard to to stick to a game plan. That's fight. Because I feel like you guys are both going to have one. But maybe thirty seconds into that fight. It's going to get thrown out of the window. And it's going to be that fight of the night. We're all expecting. I kind of feel like that's all my game plan. I kind of like now I'll stick to kind of go rogue and doing my thing, you know. Especially because he took. Oh, let's go ride those spinning jobs stuff in there. You know, your stuff out there? You know, your stuff out there? I think this is like a real real fun for me. He's going to be a real fan by the fans, exciting fight. But I feel like, you know, we're definitely going to keep a high shore. Shore. You guys talked a little bit about the pressures that come along with fighting at home. What about the other side of it where you're kind of like the villain in in this fight? Do you embrace that role? Yet. The no I feel like we're going to you know, you know, my efforts in China finish his fight. You know of I I try not to go to decisions everything with them. I think you know, the fans going to see that. And you know, they're gonna they're gonna put me at first going. They're going to have great time. It's going to be a. Fight of the night that candidates. Rob font, man. Have you been able to utilize the CPI in these last few months? I think we ask you that every time, you know, we like to check in or have you still stayed on the east coast? Coming up there on the twenty seven twenty seven for a two second. What's the first thing you hit up when you do get here? Is there a certain particular part like strength and conditioning nutrition? Rehab, whatever you know, that you like to check in with like, do you have a favorite part of the? Definitely the rehab, and then I kitchen up, but definitely the. Hey, by the way, you told us that the Instagram switched, and let's plug again, the new one, which is rob underscore font. But you didn't tell us what happened to the other one hunt. You get locked out. Or is that a mistake or or did you mess that up or what happened? Yeah. Basically got a new phone. And then you know, you gotta sign. Instagram and all that stuff. Basically the Jato account that I had to that. Instagram doesn't exist anymore have shown that I haven't spend it Email that. Email for like two thousand nine. The reset. The reset code. I just can't get to it. So it's been it's been a going back and forth. They tried to keep Email and Instagram. Not get any replies. That get it made a new one. Well, I noticed on November eleventh, you weren't exactly hurting helping your diet out that Sunday breakfast of champions that is a monster Sunday slash ice cream. Please tell me it was just a picture and not an wasn't actually consumed. That's my by. The Boston better company. I hear they have the best food. For days. Now it up again that. Wait. Why do you keep calling? It a burger the looks to me like an ice cream. Boston better company. Okay. All right. Maybe that was a late celebration from the the Boston Red Sox. Pretty happy about that. Of course, I can't wait to try man. Looked amazing got the bake in the head. You know, the paint. In crow is crazy. Goes staying quiet because he's a dodgers fan. So I know him. Now some of that comfort food right now. Yeah. Man went when I think when they won that that long game the one in the win an extra innings. Lot of dodger fans thought they were turning around. But you guys came right back pretty gangsta team. You guys got over there. All know about the though man the Celtics is getting a lot. Regulate ninety eight now in rough it's been rough. Are you friends with any of them cats from either of those teams, you know, I know respect between the different, you know, athletes from from the different teams out there and same with you'll see athletes. Not really. Did they definitely take care of it? When we go to the game, but there's not necessarily friends players. But hopefully one day I can't be definitely love going to the game. Rob you could conceivably beat a six foot eight three hundred twenty pound left tackle, right? Doubt. How would you would? I think I'm about to answer the question. I was gonna say how would you chop them down? Where is that is that it just kicked calf? And then. Al cardio him. Or what would you do? Because if he gets his hands on you. I mean, you know, raw fonts gonna be thrown in the air right ours. What is here? Yeah. Definitely keep my distance in that lake down as you down take it back took them out. But you now you never wanna get around. You never wanna get grab that guy that big. But definitely like a hold on hold it down. Are you a fan of the leg kick? The calf kick versus versus the, you know, like, I it seems like I'm seeing way more of those. And that the kicks are starting dare I say go away a little. Yeah. You know, it definitely it doesn't feel great being on the receiving. But I definitely I love playing with them play also hurts on the on the deliverance. I if you if you that that he missed the the cabinet at her. It's a fifty fifty it might it might land and hurt him or you might get hurt. You know, fifty fifty series like every two you're one of them hurts on your end. Receiving the play around. Even even though it's going to be. I heard on both sides. Now, are you saying that's more on the inside calf kick or the outside? Wow. One to two. Actually. Fight. But I guarantee you. Around right now. And what about the kicks that are landing on the perform nerve, I think it's called. So it runs from the to the calf. But I know a lot of people are focusing on the calf muscle and some of them when they kicked by focusing on that muscle. But a lot of times nerves are being hit. We saw it in the Michael Chandler fight. We saw it in the pseudo and Meech is Johnson fight. Where all the sudden the ankle can go a little bit limp. You know what I'm talking about? Are you guys looking for that? Or you just looking for the muscle. Aim for that sweet spot the leg. If you catch it, you your whole, really your leg or ankle down. You know, it's a little harder to hit. Go to locate. But but yeah. Lilly. Shut down in a kickboxing and glory. You'll see a boy there. But it's joke joke. Crazy. All right, man. Well, perhaps we'll see you then when you come out too. But as always hope you have a safe camp, and we look forward to your five versus Sergio Pettus. And thank you very much for joining us here on today show. Guys out when I'm out there again once again do Instagram underscore fun time as underscore follow. That. That's right. All right. Thank you. Good talking to you. All right, folks. We're gonna take our last break. You're listening to emanate junkie radio on Sirius XM's fight nation channel ninety three on my behalf. I'm gonna exit the show a little early all at the guys wrap up, but I will be in Vegas tomorrow with the guy. So I will see you then keep a lockdown MA junkie here. They'll be back in a couple of minutes, and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Left right left, right. B a start told me get rid of. Yeah. We'll they're still here. Okay. But now, they know I tried to kill them. Hold on mom. Pure torture. Goes. What is going on junky nation? We are back here for the closing stretch may junkie radio and may junkie, George is was still in California. However, you wanna look at it. But thankfully me. And the goes goes Xenia been holding it down hold the fort. And we're gonna take you down the home stretch. Aren't we goes man that crashed into some dude on the way? Other literally test bumped like. Down the hall right now is he wearing a green, sir. Nice. All right. So we're back and one thing that George wanted to touch on that we never hit on was the CPI in Shanghai opened in two thousand nineteen it's supposed to be three times the size of the PI here in Las Vegas. If you haven't seen the PI here in Las Vegas. I'm going to put it in idiot terms. It's about the size of. What if you maybe put four Costco's together or something, right? Into blocks. That would be about that big. They better be building. Like matron Emma may or something like what the hell's going? This is going to be like a city. Yeah. Developing not just for fighters developing talent. So they're going to be like trek in them in there. I mean, it's crazy. You know, the the history there, for example. I mean, they used to call them, you know, opera schools like they call it kung FU schools, people will learn become FU opera performing the place. All same arts because, you know, communist countries other kind of getting these funneling the talents if you will early kind of the beginning of three hundred less traumatic than not thrown babies off the cliffs, well, there's the one kid we're not going to get into that the point is they have have a lot of they have a lot of history as far as flooding. Funneling? You know, their own nationals in schools for training. So this is huge at their eight working with outside market because that's something that China, you know, they do obviously with the whole everything being made in China, but for certain things the kind of protected about so that's really really cool there embracing the Shanghai Neka passively. They're letting them, you know, built such a big place and and funneled their top talent. Now, I finally it'd be shitty there. It's gonna be it's gonna be bad a lot of patient to bad air quality in Shanghai. Yeah. Tha that does going to sound like a joke. But I don't mean it like what you were saying do you mean like member the second Crotty kid movie when they're doing kung FU, but like in that giant school? There's like. Three hundred people that what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. They're even like there's like across from the Shaolin temple the whole reason why I went there. They even have a really cool like wushu arenas like a wish school in other obviously over firm to schools as well. Kaku. And it was like an arena like something. I would imagine see hunger games. But I imagine like that arena. That's what it looked like it was like a like a dusty. Oh, poor rundown like arena like it was really cool. Looking like, oh, the fight flightseeing there man like. I think the first one I haven't, but I just felt like the appropriate reference like because it was just a bunch of hungry looking kids that we're training. It I had to guess Danny have you seen the hunger games? Yes. Hundred percent chance. I've seen to them at least. Four four. I've seen at least two. Have you made up your mind yet if you're gonna watch chocolate El Tito, Ortiz dance for the third time? What is it even going down? I think not this weekend. But the next one goodness. You're going to do it fire member from not watching anything else is the card going on. If you're if you see a tweet on black Friday, and it says twenty bucks you gonna do it. Do it. I remember I think I will do it who else is on that undercard. Remember every kid look at? Look at I know one of their fight fell off. So let's this is the card right now as it stands. It's chocolate. Lt. Ortiz in the main event, Tom Lawlor and Darren win right then window three. No. But you know, really when you look at it KOMO there's only nine and five something like he's got that much more. Yeah. You came on most of experience on the one of those deeds or Higgins all is. And Kenneth Burke. Gleason tobao good era. I mean, that's that's a decent matchup. While Watson, we all remember him Ricardo plots that kids tough with called one of his life for hell. Yeah. Yeah. Jay Silva, Oscar coda, Tom clicky. Oh, he's on here. Yeah. You're basically paying for that main event. Is this no way no way? They got the wrong, David Terrell here. The fuller on here. They don't have the biotic. He's fighting, Johnny. That's like oh. Oh, they're going with all school name's Dave, Terrell. I don't think that's awesome other names that were you know? Associated with Bionics. I was like, okay. You know, you do the math you long enough. You know that? These actions aren't usually coincidental. Saws makes more sense for it to be bionic, Dave, Terrell, right? So I'm glad you. Yeah. In the other day at a assassin. What was it contender series? And he was actually going to come in studio. But his flight was leaving kind of around the time where if he were going to be here, he should probably be getting close to getting in line over at south, west, whatever. But he did say it coming into show he'd be kind of fun to have on because he was there back in the the old school where the starting to get a little bit more well rounded and everybody knew him as a creepy fighter and yet. But I mean, if you look at his game in the UFC through a lot of kicks a lot of punches. Practically beheaded Matt Linlin. And then he gave Evan Tanner health, Tanner. Yeah. That was that one. But he's got a lot of good stories. I think then he came back right after a bunch of injuries, Scott Smith shoot. Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah. There was like a thing. Yeah. Oh, nine or something. And then after that, I think it was it was curtains. He had that that problem with his ear, and I remember one of those injuries. They actually had to take his ear off of his head. And do I don't know what. And then put it back on. Never do something. Like that man the Bella tour poster for Hawaii have you seen it yet? Dan. Now, go lookin', let's see it passes. Your Hawaiian approved. How's that? It's not a USA. Yeah. I mean, they're not like what was it? The Medeiros Surani though, they're like, Texas or America or something. He's american. So because he's Hawaiian he's looking lion flag there how marriage pineapple or something. For our trips to joint base Langley east as we like to play jokes on the fighters that come with us. So we always they always leave kind of like. We all have like are certain things that we ask for. I guess it's called a writer right for for celebrities. Do you have with your band? I'm not as popular as you guys are all right? You can request in your room when you get there when you're performing right? And so I'm one of the trips. I had told somebody every time I go there's always Milano cookies and gummy bears. And he was like, what do you have this? I'm like because I asked that it's part of the contract, right? And he was Brad to ours. And so in Brad when Brad went out we had them put. Everybody else got like kind of cool stuff. I can't remember who the other people were who else was on that trip. That was Todd deaf. E all I know I shouldn't have joked around my writer because I only got one bag of jerky in my room, probably because I put eight-year-old Caribbean boy with strong back on my rider. They. Got it everything the jumbo back there. It was it. Brad for Brad. We had them put I had all the other fighters. Brag about what was in their room. So everybody was their stuff was. But for Brad, we put a up own. Welcome. Mr right. Him the ban. Everybody's got bears. And I got this. I got that. Kind of quiet. You hope real racist. Pineap- died. Face. Finley put magazine I care what we what we have. Kind of gave them some fucked up stuff. Like that would be funny on the poster, I know people be pissed on with that is Danny when's your next gig December fifteenth in Philly? And you weren't here for this, Dan. But I actually a yelled at Danny this morning. I tell him he's got gotta write new music. Some kind of what he's got ready. I have. New trump. It's not recorded yet. We'll probably probably early early two thousand nineteen. It's called. Named it. It's called wrecked. Wrecked. Correct. No wrecked. This dance penis. Guest vocals on it wrecked. I know that out. Danny wrote that song about for you get a name it, Dan. Thirty. I just I just want to scare Danny. Actual because everything I get near. I. Do you? Do you? Write all the lyrics, Danny to your sons. For the most part. Yes, if another I I don't have any problems with somebody else. Giving me lyrics if another band member goes, hey, I wrote this in it would make a really cool starting of of verse or something like that. I I'd love to build off of somebody else's. But usually, it's just me. Can we name one of your songs? Does it have to be wrecked? Can we name it? Something else. Nominators wreck. We've been playing the reason that I know this is gonna be the next single because we've been playing it for a long time. And we know people really like it. So we already had been even then do you have enough time to say what you're gonna say. Probably not. But like we got another show tomorrow before the China. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember how this came up. But during one of the breaks for maybe before the show started dance at something that will haunt Mitrena. But at some point he just kind of said taste by somebody the meat cleaver once and he was about to. Nary a butcher's. Oh, I was thinking of I listen pretty close. But we save it for the show, which we always do we never get whenever we always do that. But maybe tomorrow and tomorrow show, Dan can tell the story of how we got chased around China with a butcher knife you and what was your Finnish Shanghai buddy Christians of because George brought up the the PI Shanghai. I told that story my podcast last time for last year. Siang I'm gonna tell some Beijing related stories on this year's podcast, the protect your neck podcasts people wanting wanna listen. But yeah, maybe I'll show you the butcher storage story tomorrow. We'll see the butcher star butcher knife story. Okay. So now, I'm confused. What is a butcher's knife? Is that what Michael Myers carries around? No. This is just a thick square blade. Like the meat cleaver one. You won you chop. Duck heads off with Christmas story. Right. Yeah. That one. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's the same thing any. But now, I'm starting to think that butcher's knife may be let's ghoulish shit. We're going to wrap up today show. I think our guests for coming on the show Marlon Tito better, and we are supposed to have another guest today that was one or two let I think he may be rerouted. But I'm not a hundred percent, sure. Tomorrow show. I know that Takhar close will join us. And I believe they've Manley will be a guest. He is made bobbleheads bobbleheads. You see here on the desk. And he's got something new that he's going to introduce tomorrow on the show. It'll be really cool. I got I got a chance to check it out. And it's different. If you're an EMMY definitely gonna wanna purchase this for Christmas. I think your friends and family could kick out of it. Anyway for gorgeous, George who's no longer here. He was in Orange County today. Dan, Tom the finalist, and Danny he goes, well, we back tomorrow with another until then. Sleep. Have you heard metro by t mobile now includes Amazon prime? 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Biomes combines art, conservation and technology

The Science Show

11:03 min | 7 months ago

Biomes combines art, conservation and technology

"And here's another example of the way artists realize science. So we can see it and appreciated emotionally. Could artists also here's a serious question assist biologists in the field. Let's leap to the University of Newcastle and meet Alex Callan conservation scientists and Bernadette grabsch scientific illustrator both with bio-bombs an exhibition rating what they do, why in This Day of Photography and so much illustration on the Internet. Would you need to have something done by an artist for me? Natural History illustration brings what we see in the failed to life. So if I'm bent over a frog that I've never seen before at me not. Looking down in a very narrow field of view from my head coach and it's pouring with rain. I have a very limited time to be able to identify what that frog is. And Natural History illustration really exemplifies not just the physical characteristics of those frogs but their behavior, the way they look the way they pose all of these things in nature really help us identify what we're looking at and how it's responding to its natural environment and have you done this Alex already have you taken these illustrations into the field and tested the idea? Yeah. All the time I do it probably a lot more with plants only because Stralia we're very lucky I work with frog. So we're very lucky to have a frog biologists also pretty incredible photographers, but there is nothing like the detail that you kept shine natural history illustration that simply can't be captured by photography that we need in the field as ecologists and Conservation. Scientists. And Bernadette with all of those different creatures to look at all those different plants where you start. Well. That's a good question we try to be useful. So we start where we needed the most. So we talked to the scientists and ask them what we can do to help and the areas that they work in that they need explaining or they need communicating to the public must urgently a what we start on me. Now, we always choose the prettiest thing to two straight, which is the most important thing. And you of course I've got fantastic tradition in the University of Newcastle of natural history illustrations going way back decades we do. We actually have a very long history here and actually just featured in a documentary on Scott Sisters who some of the first natural history illustrators in Newcastle and we have kept that tradition going. Yeah. Since they did the beautiful artworks just across the river from where we're sitting. So we do have a long history here and we are the only of its kind in Australia. And when Alex goes out and does the field work and comes back, do you follow it up to you see whether it's worked actually it's interesting. You should say ask that question Robin because I was out in the field just yesterday with one of our student Addis Louise Wills, and she's putting together some interpretive age for the Hunter Wetlands Cinta around the frog research that we're doing and the fascinating thing was that I could sit there until her ask story about the importance of these frogs and the research that we're doing. And at the end of it, she could talk back to me about how she would bring this to life to the community. As a scientist I'm so close to my conservation research that. I forget what other people don't know. I also forget. How other people might say and what might interest? Them might be slightly different to what interests me so that communication that doing and between the scientist end, the scientific illustrator is really critical in how we then convey this message of the need for conservation to the broader community. Alex One how many of your colleagues in natural history and in field exploration? Feel that way because I remember when I did my zoology degree how long it took for me to look down microscopes and even look at the landscape. And be able to see things. I was effectively blind I one nearly two years. That's my biggest criticism of my professional development that I can go into the field and be very focused on what I'm looking for but I can actually infect become reductionist. And in conservation and for engaging the community and conservation, we do need to have these multiple lenses through which we see the world so that we have a broad perspective because everybody say something different and it comes from a very different experience base, and that's the beauty of trying to blend art and science to communicate these amazing things about planet. And Bernadette, you're actually educating the scientists to know what they're looking at. Sei It that way. We work very closely with the scientists and one of the strengths of natural history illustrators. Cassidy to observe. So that's what we teach our students and we take some that we need to spend that time observing before we even pick up the pencil and drawing any anything whether it's an animal, a cultural object work archaeology, and I take that approach there we have to take the time to. The way things together the form of the shape and the function Howard removes all of that sort of stuff is so important to us and yes sometimes we do see things that scientists have missed and re very humbly point them out. And Alex just said Bernadette it's for the public as well in what way. Well art is like the boundary object and we're the contract between scientists and the community. So we like Alex just explained will go out into the field with the scientist and get this story, put it into language that we understand and they will hopefully, we can transfer that across to the community. So we're sort of. In. Between we. Consider. Tell the story in a different voice. You have exhibitions, websites award. How can the listeners find out what you doing will? Yes, that's what we're very excited about at the moment we're having a big exhibition, a virtual exhibition Judah covert, and you can find it at by on dot and there's a virtual gallery put all of the artwork into virtual gallery that you can walk around. You can watch videos can interact individual gallery you can leave your own bio pledge if you want to. Make a difference. So yes, please do have a look around the by ams dot art website Alex. you'll know that off track one of our programs on sounds programs on radio national has collected teen frog sounds and it's been popular. You wear of that. Yeah, and is this related to the use of the day up by the Australian museum what a fantastic initiative that Bain in trying to connect community back to the Bush? Yeah. The Amazing Jody Rowley, the Ultra Amazing Jody Rolling. This is a fascinating thing. We're trying to use the frog idea in a lot of citizen science projects that we're running across. New South Wales for `frog conservation trying to rediscover populations of threatened frogs that we haven't been able to find for more than a decade that connection again, with something that you hear to being able to then identify that as a species in particular then opens this whole new world if you can name the species and you can find out so much more about it you know you the striped mushroom guests I will find it in my backyard after heavy rain, but I may not find the threaten giant burrowing frog. When would I find that? Where will I look? These are all incredible ways of trying to bring the voice of diversity back to the community so that they can value these things and we can all work together to protect them. That's New South Wales. What about the rest of Australia look there are lots of things happening across the country but also globally Australia is a little bit behind in how we connect with their community around by Vesey conservation. But we're developing that all the time and actually covid has been the crutch for exacerbating those things. One of the things that we're trying to do in these by festival or exhibition science exhibition is linked to twitter events, twitter events that actually profile. Ecosystems okay. Vegetation communities or environment. So we can get people out to, for example, we send them out to the woodlands and hope that they will find the mistletoe. Fade resource for the threaten ragent honey eater. So, we're trying to complement our art and our website information with this concept of just get out the the one place you can go now in carbon is to the great outdoors. Let's go and connect with that again and say what amazing things are there Bernadette there was a rumor a couple of years ago that the natural history artistry that's been such a tradition at the University of Newcastle might laps a bit be using to be demonstrating that it hasn't lapsed. It's still going strong. We are incredibly resilient people Ben I think the reason why we are still here having this. Conversation is we really passionate about the power of art in particular natural history illustration we can see the potential use, but we do. You know it's just so important and we're evolving. So we're now doing a lot of three D. modeling as well. So students are making three d models of invasive species that people can now see on this screen and rotate around and say the differences between the cane toad eastern punk, and so we're doing that with the invasive species officers from the Department of Primary Industry. So actually doing a lot of applied natural history illustration projects, which is really exciting. Excellent and in the Sancho we've been looking at the out of Ferdinand. Through. David the former Director of the botanic gardens you're familiar with Ferdinand. Bauer very familiar with Fernand I teach all of my students about him in one of the first classes that I give just because I think he was outstanding for his time and still at any even for our time and he had such methodical approach she's very much what we do in natural history illustration like we want to portray animals and plants as accurately as possible, and that's what he did. Tell you one of my all time favorites. Excellent final word from Alex By. Is, an. Art Science Exhibition that is actually trying to draw the language of art and the language of conservation science together so that we can actually improve the protection of Australia's biodiversity because I think the voice of change is in the people not in the scientists and science and art aunt in separate boxes there in one area, which is the natural world and it's a very beautiful marriage. Field Biologist Alex. Callan bio-bombs Curator Bernadette draft of the University of Newcastle which continues to make its mark nationally and internationally.

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Radar Metal Mantra #010 - Minas Morgul, Accept, Voodoo Circle, Crystal Viper & Dragony

Metal Mantra Podcast

33:17 min | 3 months ago

Radar Metal Mantra #010 - Minas Morgul, Accept, Voodoo Circle, Crystal Viper & Dragony

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S4 | 05 Tough decisions in the ICU

The Pineapple Project

23:35 min | 1 year ago

S4 | 05 Tough decisions in the ICU

"This is an ABC. Podcast up question. What were you doing when you were in your early twenties on me? I was drinking medallion. Lemonade and the toughest decision I had to make was what to hang from the mirror of the nineteen ninety-two hold them. Berina that my dad bought me all those smelly Christmas trees Went for the train the end but other twentyish year olds. The doctor. Said like your your like you need to make this decision. And I'm you need to make this decision within the next half hour because if we don't start treatment within the next huffing air it's not going to have any effect. Oh man so you can literally was the only person in your family. That could make a decision as to whether you're great uncle lived or died and you had to make it in thirty minutes. Yep meet just Intel. Just Cinta found herself making that decision when she was just twenty four years old Ghana puts the whole Berina smelly Christmas trae situation into perspective Palo. I'm Jen Fran and this is the pilot project and this season death where the logistics of death anyway because that story from Justin Tuck. It gets a whole lot trickier. It's not an isolated incident. Folks are forced to make tough. Kohl's about the People. They love all the time just into situation having to make this kind of decision. Unprepared is very common. Surprisingly common people wouldn't realize but this is taking place now every fifteen minutes somewhere in Australia around the clock. Twenty four seven so we're talking forty thousand decisions of this kind taking place every year in Australia hectic. That's Dr Pay to Seoul. An intensive care doctor who specializes in life K. More from him later. But I for this episode. You are going to need to know about a sexy little term cold and advance kid directive aura. Advance Care Plan sexy enough for this is a document that you create which lets people know what sort of medical treatment you'd be out for if you weren't able to speak yourself stuff like Cape May alive at all costs versus. I wouldn't wanNA stick around unless I could show myself because my personality is very independent. In this document you appoint a decision maker. That's kind of like an emergency medical contact to make decisions that would reflect the plan. How funds appointing people like Queen Oprah more on this later back to just enter. My parents went on holiday. They left me as the Emergency Medical. Contact for ninety seven year old Great Uncle Justin. Just great. Uncle was put into respite care for the trip before that he'd been living at home with them and my parents were like you'll be fine. He'll just going there for a few weeks and you just go and visit him and things and all you the emergency medical contact about like that'll be an you know being able to be contacted most of the time so don't worry about it and that turned out not to be sure okay. So what happened. So Mom and dad were away. Everything was going fine for the first kind of wake and a half two weeks also and then he got a little bit sick The doctor went and saw him at the Nursing Home. And he was like yeah. He's a caterer He's just you know settling in about two a call Kai go to Col- from the nursing home saying he'd been transferred to Queanbeyan hospital deteriorated rapidly. So your work at this point your phone rings so talk us through that moment so I I didn't hear it because at that time I was a Barista very noisy but then I finally got three missed calls. This must be This wasn't be good expressly expecting that. They'll tell me he was dead And they said Look. You need to like drop. What have you doing and go to Quainton Hospital. Aid You on standby and I automatically kind of went into a K. Not GonNa Panic. They had an inkling that could be an infection but they went show Then the doctor came and said to me the the blood tests are comeback. He's got a urinary tract infection. That's tending to a kidney infection. And he's Kind of organs starting to Shutdown these kidneys all. We can administer treatment if you want bought May Or may not work. And if it does he may not have very good quality of life off the treatment so as soon as I got to the hospital and realized that and they told me he was quite ill I straightaway was on the fine to mom and dad trying to get through to them and I very quickly realized after trying to call them ten times in five minutes. They weren't going to be answering. And the doctor said like your your eat like you need to make this decision and you need to make this decision within the next half an hour because if we don't start training within the next half an hour it's not gonNa have any effect. Oh man what's going on in your head at this point when you realize that you are the one that has to make this massive decision and you have to make it pretty fast. Well first of all I wanted to just walk away and just be like Yep. No someone else do this if I walk away like can someone else make this decision for me and that I was like Nori like icon. They con- Aid to do this. Tell us what decision you came to an and why he came to that particular decision so I came to the decision with two minutes to spare that they shouldn't commenced treatment It was the hottest decision that I've one of the hottest decisions I've made a mile off Knowing that making that decision he was going to die And so yeah from that point Yeah he rapidly deteriorated and ended up dying so that was pretty full on and will you with him when he died. Yeah I Actually sought we theme through the whole process of dying which I had never even seen a dead body before. I'd never even been in a room with someone who was dying so I had absolutely no idea what to expect bought. I knew I couldn't leave him. It was It was very long There's a sound that Lombardi. Mike's when someone's dying it's called death rattle entities absolutely the most horrific sound. I've ever heard Mike and still vividly remember and that hundred started at about ten o'clock That not and it just got worse and worse until He passed away the following morning. just before four am going. I just don't prepare you for that do they? They really don't they definitely do not know. Did you end up getting in touch with your parents in the end? Yeah so About an hour. After I made the decision my Parents rang me off a payphone. On sly they managed to get a little bit of reception enough to know that I called a lot and I had to our couldn't even tell them I ended up the doctor. The had talked me through. Everything was still there. And she got on the phone and explained very medically kind of what had happened And then she said. You Dad wants to talk to you and I was just like I don't even know if I can't just listen. He he knows you probably not in the state talk and the first thing that my dad said to me was you made the right decision. Which for me was huge because in the back of my head when I was making the decision was thinking like what if mom and dad disagree like what if mom and dad like this is they would have made a different decision and I was kind of like battling. I don't even know what decision they would make kind of POPs. I would have made the same one but then again they might order so that decision is something that just seemed to steal thinks about today. Now you might not find yourself in exactly that super hectic position but you get it right. It's GONNA be infinitely less stressful for anyone involved if you have a plan doctor from before that is the intensive care specialist paid a soul sees situations like this play out on the rake and from the way he describes it dying in the ICU. Founds intents yeah it looks like chaos? I mean it's organized chaos. I reassure the public but it it you walk in. It's just people going everywhere. Pretty much to`speed with patients in lots of rooms in the side loads of equipment. Lots of things going on lots of noise and when you go in there the thing that most strikes you is just the sheer amount of staff. The stuff in the car does the stuff on the desk. The stuff everywhere. Machinery glinting idea what it is rows and rows and rows of syringes and stuff and the noise is very striking the lights Meta Galante ICU. So even at times all brightly lit and it never gets quiet not somewhere. Where if you were looking to have conversations or or die That you'd really choose so yeah. It's a pretty chaotic. Very full on environment twenty four hours a day doesn't never stops all celestine about one in ten of the general public will die in an ICU in about one in ten of the people coming into an ICU. Maybe more like one in eight die in the ICU. Why do you think it's increasing? Because it's becoming an expectation that everything possible will be done in every circumstance and to a degree that works. We have got we have in Australia. We have the highest survival of preventable deaths in the world. So in that age group thirty nine to sixty five. Where desecrated preventable. We have the best track record in the whole of the planet in terms of averting death but the the side effect of that is we overdo it for a lot of people as well now so with throwing the book at everybody for some it works and for some it doesn't and we're getting worse and worse deciding not to do something because it's become so grooved that if you go into hospital you're sick you will end up there unless somebody along the line decides to stop the process and that's not easy to do so if the patient comes in and a you know they have a stroke or they fall into a coma they no longer able to speak for themselves They don't have any kind of advance. Directive is it incumbent on you to do everything that you possibly can to Cape that personal live pretty much yes I mean. I'd like to say there are some qualifiers there. I guess if we thought he was completely bonkers we might not but the truth of the matter is is pretty much default. If you're if you're critically unwell and you turn up on our doorstep. We'll do everything unless we find reasons why we shouldn't be doing then. Overwhelmingly that would because people don't want it but we very hard to find that out unless they've kind of specifically mentioned in an advanced directive or some kind of plan. Yeah well I mean. That's pretty rare. I if I were to actually is so rare for somebody to come in with an actual advance care directive that I would photocopy that an frame it well. I hope that your office is filled with framed advanced directives. All over the walls may too because it it can be a very very successful strategy. But it's actually just as successful just chat to not just talk to your family. And so that they know they'll be there you know they'll come and they'll end up in this situation of having to make decisions for you if you are not conscious and That's a hell of a pressure on people and you know be kind to your family. Talked to them and give them a bit of an idea of what they're supposed to say. Yeah that's solid advice. I think I just want to kind of get a little bit more specific in that scenario so someone come into the ICU. They've fallen into a coma that Incapacitated can't speak themselves. That don't really have any kind of advance. K Plan or directive. Talk us through the steps that you then go through from there Yeah so what we have to W I is what. They're realistic possible. Outcomes off so we have to decide what could happen here. What realistically could we achieve here? So that that takes a little time commonly maybe a couple of days of testing to see what's possible At that point we have to establish what the patient would have wanted given those options. You know you could survive this. But you'll never be functional. You'll never be able to eat. You recognize your family So we have to understand that that is the situation and then we take that to the family and their job and many don't understand this. Their job is to try to speak as if they were in the patients shoes in that moment so this is not what they want is not what we want is not wanting to be else wants. It's what they think that patient would have wanted and that sometimes quite hard for them to do if they've never had any kind of conversation about this before so we have couples that have lived in a sixty th wedding anniversary couples. They've never talked about what they want. Or what their values are or any of these kinds of things. I surprisingly hard for them to say or he would not have wanted to be like that but that is the job. That's what the job of the family is. They have to tell us that. We base out treatment basically on worst possible and while the family thing how DNA wishes come into play so do not resuscitate. Do you ever get folks who say I want to be resuscitated no matter what and you as a medical expert thinking water starting? That's a good idea. Yes under Again that hasn't been common in Australia yet but in America is almost overwhelmingly the case And therefore I'm expecting to see more of it. You know people saying well. I want you to resuscitate now. Don't care that stage four cancer. I want to live to see my grandchild. Get her diploma. You know whatever it takes. That's what I want. I actually I think we really are morally obliged to at least meet them halfway with that. You know we talk about good death and stuff like that but for some people it is to go down fighting in that way and I'm not here to try and tell people they don't want this and they don't want that if they do want something. Tell us that too. There's a limit and everybody would understand that but I would. We'll meet you halfway if what you want. You don't believe in such thing as a good death. Can you tell us a little bit more about that? It's just a bad time. You know the language around this is terrible but there's nothing good about death. I mean I've seen often even know how many deaths I've seen I. I don't even want to start thinking about it but There's nothing ever good about it. Trust me It's always sad Sometimes tragic sometimes it will the best I think we can hope for is a death that is consistent with the way somebody was You know we. We've had a patient who had stage four cancer and he really wanted to dine a ventilator. He was so determined. We tried to send him home to die. He brought himself back to hospital. He was he was mad. Cain And when he did die. His his Wife said that was so great that you did that. Because that's what he wanted. He wanted to go out fighting and and he did go out finding on massive machinery. Was that a good death. Well it probably was but not everybody's idea of a death so I think we should be using terms like authentic or a valid or safe. Not good when you talking about death. It just seems to send the wrong message. Yeah that's fair enough. I don't think we really talk about death as something that he's authentic. I don't think I've ever really heard framed that way. I think it has to be real. You know keep it real. Is I love that when you die. Cape IT real keep it real good doctor soul. What advice would you have given just into? I think she shouldn't try to say what she wants. What she thinks. Oh she believes in. She just needs to try to report as best. She can what her uncle would have wanted if he could speak for himself. And people don't realize that they're not that have an opinion than that to try and save. Somebody's life just that to try to report what it is. They think he would have wanted. Do you have a question? The decisions that you made in that time hundred percent not so much now our flak about just gone five years Probably for the first six months or so I really struggled with the whole scenario It was very long to go through. And it's really something you talk to. You can talk to your friends about especially twenty four. I mean you can kind of mention that you saw with your uncle. Why Dombi no going to go into the because who wants to hear about that really And so you know mom and dad would really go really support even stuff and they could say. I was kind of struggling and helped me as much as they could. But it took me probably until the he's first anniversary the really kind of started to feel like. Hey with the decision that I made But really probably wasn't until the second anniversary of his passing that I kind of one hundred percent comfortable with the fact that I had made the right decision so that is an intense situation for anyone to be let alone a twenty four year old. I'm a decade older than just intern. I didn't even nerva great uncle and even stressed. I'm going to go to the hospital cafeteria for a little may time. We've got the strong five watt and the CARAMEL fly. Hey great me. I was wondering what you've got to even allowed him him. It pays my guilt. Also I mean I'm here I kinda know what I'm doing. I can help you out with some tips. Oh you heard all that. Yeah actually that would be great. Well one like that. Nice man with the British accent said pay and run events care no directive and do them a favour always book a longer appointment but before you do to think about your values these are totally specific to you like if something unexpected happens. What matters most to value a certain level of independence? A being able to show yourself those questions. Same Big and let's be they really are but there is a website. They can help you. It's my values dog dot a U. It's fun little quiz about end of life care and three. Tell the people closest to you what you be prepared to live with. It is a full on conversation but imagine they didn't know and had to make the decision on your behalf. I would say that's maybe more full on. And if you want to spend more time on the Internet than you already do or you want more info on how this works and you state or territory do yourself a favor and go to advance camp. Planning Dog I scream. E Wow docked up except the opposite now can I have a camel sliced plans? I'm Jan Fran and this is the pineapple project and I'm more convinced than ever that we all need to put in a bit of prep before death because you wanna be coming across this stuff for the first time while in. Icu Doctor In scrubs is asking you to tell them how many fingers they're holding up or asking you to sign on the dotted line. Next on the pilot will project. I'm someone who you might say. Understand the lure of a quick little splash into my social media feeds through the facebook ether. This somehow hearing it. It's going to happen to all those hot takes. I had when I die. I've got them forever. So basically you need to delete people from your life. That's the only solution view humans. We've always loved a tribute to the dead but I don't know if you'll realize will appreciate all those reminders of you hanging around once you're gone so you had to prove that he was dead to facebook had to first show the death notice that he had died. How to work your social media settings to avoid being digital ghost if you send a death notice scenic gets turned into a remembrance paid to close it down is actually quite difficult and will answer all the big questions. Can your mom see into your idea? That's on the next episode of the Pineapple Project. Will project is mixed by sound? Engineers Angie grant and Chrissy Miltiades. It's produced by Carla Arnold and Claire Halloran Role of Grimmie Aka. The grim reaper up is played by race. Nicholson the host is move. Jen Frien- The EP AKA Executive Producer Rachel Fountain and Kelly Reardon is the manager of ABC Audio Studios Lock. I'm aware that all this death and dying chat can get extremely hectic so. I'm going to just suggest a quick break here so I can take full advantage of your vulnerable state and help you tap into a serene part of your brain. All you need to do is go into your podcast. App and Click subscribe to the ABC podcast mindfully. Because then next time everything around you is feeling a tad too overwhelming. You can just walk on those free meditation straight into Your House and mindfully meditate you away to accommodate each episode is tailored to help you sleep distress at work. 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Mothering and mental illness

All In The Mind

31:38 min | 2 years ago

Mothering and mental illness

"This is an ABC podcast. Mommy is crying says that she's bad. Dad says you're sick mom says I'm mad. I was becoming angry, and I had lashed out violently towards my children, sir. I immediately knew that I had to get hope. Ofri my life. I've had extreme anger lash out s- and. It is always taking a long time to calm down. But I just thought it was the way I was r. Off to having my children and having them in a situation where though possibly going get Hirsch that was threes nine two sawed it that something had to change. Meltdown failure sadness. Right. Failing spilling ova every page. What I struggled with was dealing with his distress and dealing with my distress things like Kim sleeping by himself. We ended up sleeping a lot. And I put a lot of pressure on myself to do things the right way. And yet he would pick up on my distress tree that and it would kind of fade would fade off of each other's energy. In that way. I wasn't really prepared for the realities of a child. They need help with all those tears. Let Sasco doctor Dr his speaks to mom knows. What to do? She's kind to mom says it's hard. Hallo? It's all in the mind on our in omlund, Malcolm those readings are from meltdown moments. A children's book by perinatal and infant psychiatrist Dr Anne fed Williams. She was inspired to write this book. After decades of working with mothers and babies at Helen mayo house glenside sock yet trick hospital in Adelaide the books written from the perspective of a child whose mother has mental illness. Becoming a parent can be one of the most joyful times of one's life. But there's no doubt that mothering is incredibly challenging as well and even more. So for those with mental illness, which is defined by extreme, emotional instability. And fit Williams felt that many of the women coming through her unit could be diagnosed with borderline personality disorder in the past bay payday wasn't adequately knowledged because of the stigma associated with his diagnosis symptoms include a lot around difficulties with emotional dysregulation. So feeling moody, but also being angry and showing impulsive behaviors some of which are self harming in indirect ways like gambling or overspending that sort of thing driving too fast. A lot of them are often related to so Assad or thinking and silk hammocks and also suicidal behaviors and also feeling uncertain of who you are as a person and difficulty with interpersonal relationships. So it's quite true to say that lots of people don't like that tasha. What's got lots of things about that? I don't like lap sounding like your disordered in your personality does. Doesn't sound very kind. I'm say, I sit and you've had trouble saying to people I think you've go to board lab personality disorder, but over the years as we become more comfortable in saying that of accumulating ideas, around the condition and talking to women, the vast majority women have actually been almost joyful when I've told them that that's the condition that I think they've got and the reason that the joyful is that they've often had mental difficulties for quite a number of years, and they've been deceive areas mental health professionals who have worked with them as if they've got depression or anxiety, and whilst they've had some help from those previous therapists. It hasn't really addressed the problem and the patients the women have known that. So when we say to them, I think you've got borderline personality disorder. They'll initially asked what's that? All explain it to them. And they'll say, oh, it's so good to know that because other what I was going crazy. And now you've told me what it is. Can you? Tell me if there's a treatment for us. And then I could explain to them. Yes. There are the hard work, and they long-term, but there are treatments, and they can turn things around, and they can be quite joyful because they know that their symptoms that constellation quite exactly ends fit Williams in her team did a study at Helen mayo house in Adelaide on the prevalence of borderline personality disorder. It was published in the journal ustralian psychiatry in July twenty fifteen by our own diagnosis. A quarter of the women who came into our ward head the condition of borderline personality disorder not necessarily as the only dog knows about ten percent. They were admitted with just that condition but another fifteen percent headboard line personality disorder and depression as world because they often co occur but by their own diagnosis by the McLean. So for pork questionnaire. Nearly fifty percent of the women's Sylphides defied as being really. Quite out of control with the emotions. And so we did publish that paper and stood back from our own work and realize that the numbers were of such significance that we needed to have bitter ways of working with these moms, and we needed therefore to have better treatment programmes so becoming apparent and looking after babies and small children is difficult for anyone particularly emotionally, and you can feel very disarray Gulati at emotionally to what extent use specifically talking about a diagnosis, a mental illness diagnosis, so that's a very good question. Because of course, you could think about this as out of control emotions as being on a spectrum of north one hundred so the calmest most natural kind of earth mother might never ever ever, let her feelings or find her feelings are out of control, very rarely meet those sort of women as I most of us might become upset, particularly if we sleep. Dr some of the time because looking after children is hard work that demanding their actual of the time have little time to be opposed in your own, right? And so it's very very easy to start to feel distressed, but for women with borderline personality disorder them much more up at the eighty or one hundred into that spectrum. So let's say that you're over the fifty Mark I think that you probably go to be wanting to get some help. But we just say you're emotionally dysregulation probably more up the extreme to win associated with other symptoms, such as feeling suicidal and acting on the suicidal Idei Asian being very upset when you feel that people are rejecting you because that's one of the criteria for the diagnosis of borderline personality disorder. So just being upset is not the whole diagnosis of borderline personality disorder, but being upset a great deal of the time and in association with some bows other features. That's when we're looking at that died, Moses. And spit Williams. Sonia has twin boys who've just turned four when there were babies. She was worried that her emotional instability, could put them at risk, and they she got some help this screaming that crying, basically every need. They had I could not cope with. I didn't react. Well, and it just infuriated me it didn't particularly make sense until I was diagnosed and everything sort of fell into place after that is sort of. When you put a label on something it makes it a lot easier to do with a situation as opposed to sort of not really understanding. Why send behaviors are occurring? So it is very difficult. Stressful time for anybody having small babies particularly twins. Did you realize that your responses were greater than they should have been? Absolutely. I have an amazing group of friends who support me. So although I've always been very aware self aware of my shortcomings. If those something I've missed my friends have no problems in bringing that to my attention that it wasn't right. So it was really a fear within myself or it was really scary feeling that out of control with truly lives in my care. So. Yeah. Can I ask you do you have a partner, nor know? So you were on your own with those two little darlings from the beginning. Yeah. Extra stressful. Yes. Jane has big failings. No one to tell. So what does she do starts to yell after having a child, I suppose most mothers face, lots of problems. But for me, the issues that I'd had earlier became a prominent again ima head mental health issues for as long as she can remember she turned to drugs and alcohol to navigate her way through her life is best. She could. By the time. She's twenty nine she had a serious addiction problem and into a drug and alcohol rehab Cinta she'd been so before year when she fell pregnant with his son. Hey has been a very stabilizing presence in my life. He's a very lovely person. And I feel really lucky that that he is who he is what I struggled with initially was dealing with his distress let when he was about a year old one of the things that led to me becoming choir. I'm well at about that time was trying to this much. All of the advice is that you should not Chrysler it with your baby that it's unsafe, and they should put them in a caught, sir. His distress at being separated from me and being put into a cart and the methods that are was being taught to let him cry it out the controlled crying kind of methods. I found that very very hard to do with. And yeah, he would pick up on my distress through that. And it would kind of fade would fade off of each other's energy in that way. I guess the controlled crying method is a little bit controversial isn't and everybody agrees with that. But do you think that you were finding those sorts of issues much more difficult than perhaps somebody who hadn't had the mental health issues that you'd head. Yeah. I think so. I definitely think so. So what's known about how mothers with a mental illness like borderline personality disorder or even highly emotionally reactive personalities can pass on problems to the children and even through generations. So there's been a raisin -able amount of research on looking at the effects of mothers behaviors and moods on their babies toddlers children, and what's been no just is that when a mom's mood is all over the place. She might be angry shouting at the child one moment, then withdrawn inevitably an unfortunately, it is going to have an impact on that infant. So some of the studies that look quite young baby. So from the age of four months source. I there have been one or two studies where you can see that the babies can look fries, and they might have changes in their I guys they react differently to people's emotions around. On them. And so by the time those babies are about one year old they can be changes in the attachment relationships to their mother. Let's assume mum's the primary care giver and those attachment relationships instead of being secure might be anxious. So there's a category called anxious attachment and there's another category known as disorganized attachment, which is usually when kids are quite frightened. So it depends on the nature and the frequency of the mothers behavior. I do need to infra Cise that all of us can boil over from time to time, but it's a measure of how severe that boil over is. And how often it happens, and how long it lasts for and what you do about it after you've calmed down. Because all of those things will make a difference to the baby over time. Having said that let's move back to the more severe end of BPD in the fix that. They might be on a child. And so by the time the children were at school. They can have compromise in their own behavior and learning because not surprising. The children react to what's around them. And they copy what's around them. So what they see is emotions are difficult to control it. Don't learn good ways of controlling their own emotions. And so the has been a group of children followed up from the time they were babies whose mothers have BPD and by the time. These people are young adults themselves. They have a range of mental health difficulties and quite a significant percentage of than we'll have developed a borderline personality disorder themselves. Psychiatrist ends fit Williams mother of twin boys. Sonia was relieved in a sense when she was diagnosed we'd be PD having the diagnosis. It certainly hoped me to progress as a parent because understanding where my weaknesses are. And where my strengths are. It just pushed forward with all the help that I needed. So I found actually quite a comfort. And you mention that you will worry that you're going to hurt your children physically were you concerned that somehow this emotional dysregulation was going to be passed onto your children. Absolutely. I'm certainly because. Sorry. It's difficult to talk about the oldest of the twins has actually started to pick up a few of my traits because as you can imagine it's not something that can be treated, and and Medicated it was ongoing battle and the oldest of my twins is actually starting to pick it up. So it has always been a fear of mine, and it's quite evident that children learn what they live. So it was so important to seek help. All in the mind on our in omlund, Malcolm motherhood can be wonderful. But most people also find it challenging at times for those who've had previous mental health problems which involve mood and emotional instability. Things can get really tough for both of them and the children IMO was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder about I eat ago at the time there was little support available for people with these diagnosis. So she looked for more information on APD, those one article, I remember finding and its toddle was borderline personality disorder making others miserable. And there wasn't a lot for people who actually had the disorder. And I was finding statistics that way, you know, the highest suicide rates and just how how basically how awful people who have it and how difficult they are. And how terrible it is information. It was really stabilizing for me at that time. It was just a liable that feet. It makes sense for what has been going on for me for a really long time. And every single box tit for me fit like a glove, but it didn't come with any kind of treatment of support or anything infamy. It actually was really disabled is. I went downhill really fast, and it led to about a year of lead to a suicide attempt. It led to. Spiraled down my drug use. And then about a year after that I entered the Rahab. Now moms in a class to learn to become to help stop the anger and all that drama. After observing many women having difficulties coping with motherhood and struggling with the symptoms of borderline personality disorder and fit Williams developed a treatment program specifically for mothers and their babies. It's called mother infant debut T so dialectic. Behavioral therapy will DBT is a therapy program for people with borderline personality disorder that was invented by an American called mash line hand in the nineteen ninety s it's been very widely used very widely racer it's known to be evidence based it's known to be effective for a significant percentage of people who undertake so it's basically a twenty four week course with the four different modules each of which is six weeks long, which address how to keep calm, which is three mind. Four knows how to understand that you can become distressed and the stress. Is temporary and one shouldn't act on that destroyed. So that's called distress tolerance. Then there's another module code emotional regulations are learning how to calm yourself down bitter. And finally the last modules interpersonal effectiveness, so we took mash allina, Hans DBT, and we've added by the infant work to that. So the way that it works is that all the topics address parenting. So marrying the debate t to the infant work and at the same time making sure while the moms working on the parenting that they appeared for the abai with childcare workers who have a good understanding of dysregulation babies and attachment behaviors. And then at the end of the two two and a half hours at the moms work together in the groups. There's a reunion section where the babies and mothers worked directly together where the mothers are taught to use techniques that they've just learned directly with their babies. So that they can under-. Stand. More of what's going on in themselves and also in their babies ammo was a patient events fed Williams. She suggested to Emma that she might benefit from the mother infant or my debut Tae program. An I grabbed the Pechiney with both hands. Because there is an intergenerational aspect to it. And I desperately want my son to suffer the way that I've suffered. I don't want to pass on the melody active things that I that I have I don't want to pass that onto my son. And it's a it's not a very long program at six months. It's intensive and it was it was amazing. It was an amazing opportunity, and it was not an understatement to say that it was live changing and the skills that I've learned have been invaluable as a parent Emma explains. Some of the useful skills. She learned from the my debut Tae program. So the mom fullness is definitely something that I use every day and children are very mindful by night show. And you know, remembering to be present. With my son has given me the opportunity to not miss out on these early years with him and to not get caught up in the the bigger problems of being a single mother with a mental illness and focusing on on him. And may and whatever it is. We're doing the stress tolerance really was monumental. When I did the day BT. My son was a toddler so getting through those totally years and into he's just about to turn four and being able to deal with those tantrums and those meltdowns in the shopping centers and not giving in not losing it and not being that screaming parent that I don't wanna bay and being able to maintain a level head. Leads. That is definitely something that I gained in that. So tell me about the difference. It's made to you. And how you're experiencing parenting now being too apparent and not have to walk away from it because I couldn't handle it or not pick up drugs again. That's what being able to access this kind of treatment gave to me. And I'm sure his given the mothers as well. Because it's a debilitating illness it's incredibly debilitating in its misunderstood. And it's very very hard to explain to other people what you experience and still find it very difficult die today. But the fact that I can do it. The fact that I can have my son in my life. That was a real turning point for me being able to access that help at that particular time amo Sonia also found this treatment costs, really helpful. It's actually quite astounding how it did actually all come together. And it did make a difference in my life. And more importantly, my children's lives. What would you say the key points in that therapy would really made a difference for you? I would say it's training your brain to slow down and recognize certain thoughts and temperaments that otherwise I just sort of gone with my my immediate emotion, whereas debut Tae is although it's a long process. It does teach one to just slow their brain down a bit little bit not to say that. I haven't had outbursts since it's never gonna fix the problem. But it certainly has had a very positive effect on our lives. And do you feel bitter about your children your relationship with your children now? Absolutely my relationship with my children has become such that I wish that I had these emotions for my. When I born. I just absolutely love much to bits. I never had those feelings for my children for a long time after I had them. And now, I can't imagine my life without them. They literally saved my life. I was quite self destructive as a lot of people who diagnosed with borderline on. And they absolutely saved my life and then just the center of my world icon. Yeah. I there are no words to describe how much much older, and it's really contributed to making my relationship with my children incredibly stronger, the my debut t program developed by ends fed Williams has recently been evaluated for its effectiveness. So we've just publishing a paper now with the results of their first series of four groups. And so of the Twenty-nine moms who started in any one of the first four groups twenty one of them finished, which is. Seventy two percent, which is actually very exciting. So we have data on twenty of those twenty one and that two shows that the moms improve their mood, they improve in the anxiety by improving their confidences, parents they improve in their ability to reflect about what's going on inside themselves and inside their babies, and that's actually quite fundamental to being a good parent, and they have a decrease in the severity of their borderline symptoms. And lastly, in a way, most excitingly, they also have had an improvement in what's called the care index, which has is a measure of working out what's happening between mother and baby. So although it's not perfect. It's exciting to say that there is some change in what's happening between mother, and baby sows will is helping the mother manage her emotions bidder. There's definitely thus for a good impact on what's happening between herself and her baby. So those intergenerational fix that. We were talking about earlier. With the moms behavior is quite possibly going to impact on the baby. I'd like to hope that that's listening. But of course, we have to follow all of that over time. And we do have permission for marriage search ethics committee to do that. But follow up. It's a long process, and we weren't for a long time as to whether it's had an impact, and it's early days for this research because we don't even really have a comparison or control group. So whilst very proud of that work. I do have to put it in the context of its pilot study territory, and we need to do a lot more work to develop it further psychiatrist ends fit Williams, professor Louise Newman from Melbourne University is also researching treatment programs focusing on mothers with borderline personality disorder and their relationship with their children. To the all in the mind website for more information on her work, data stronger, wiser and kind we know that's what mom has in mind. Kids feel loved mom lets them play and make a mess. Hip hip hooray? Meltdown moments is a picture story book that is for the small children of parents who have borderline personality disorder, and the I'm of it is to help those children understand that their parents do have a problem that the problem is not the child's fault that the parent mom loves them. Even though she sometimes behaves in ways that mustn't fill very loving to the small child, and that it's not the child whose caused the mother to be behaving as she does not the child's responsibility to behave perfectly to keep them on track. And so the of it is to help the small children understand. But also to help the parents understand that they have a condition that might be extremely uncomfortable for them to exit within themselves. But that it's a condition that's known about and it can be helped with treatment. And so even if for instance, a specialized program lot, my DBT is not available and lots of people don't necessarily need that. But. At least understanding acknowledging that there's a problem going on going and seeking help can be a great step. So as well as the pictures and the story for children this book, there's a half a dozen pages of what I call psycho educational material which addresses directly issues around that we've been talking about like emotional dysregulation, some information about borderline personality disorder, and some wise gentle is of pets staying calm and also seeking help. So the is to educate about borderline personality disorder both for the child, but also for the parent and fit Williams from Helen mayo house in Adelaide, she's co author of Milt down moments with artist Marie Johnson. Harrison, the book is available through the women's and children's hospital foundation, and we'll linked to that on outside. People talk about mental health issues a lot more there. Still is a terrible stigma, which is why people don't really want to address any mental health issues. Having certainly don't where it is badge of honor. But I'm not ashamed of fact that yes, I am borderline yourself from depression. But it's so important for people to understand that there is no shame in. And the only reason why people do have this negative stigma is simply because they are not educated, and they don't understand. And then not really worth it to be honest. It's more about furthering, my children's life and my life. Do you have any reflections or insights into how this condition developed few will why? Yes, I grew up in a very abusive home, I ran away when I was nine. And I had been in. I care from the age of nine. As an adult there were different kinds of abuses that continued I think that's Birtles stemmed from often people that I diagnosed as borderline have had difficult pasts. It really is a very big step for you to turn around your history in a way for the sake of your children. Here it it certainly is I coming from my background. There was no chance that I was going to allow my children to have any of those experiences. They didn't choose to be here, and they deserve to be loved and live in a safe environment. And as I've decided kiss, I I was actually thinking at one stage of giving pungent thing. I was going to be able to do it after signing that I couldn't part with them. It's not my job to ensure that that happens. So I would do anything it takes to ensure my children have a happy and healthy upbringing. Many things to Sonia end to him for speaking today about their experiences with mental illness and motherhood. Thanks also to make a Nielsen for the ratings. Our producer is dying and sound engineer is Judy replica online, Malcolm it's great to have your company till next time. You've been listening to ABC podcast. Discover more great ABC podcasts. 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