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Episode 308 = Blue Chip Talent and Hatch Detroit Competition

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Episode 308 = Blue Chip Talent and Hatch Detroit Competition

"You're listening to the podcast or visit w._w._w. Dot past detroit dot com before information. This is episode three hundred of the i._t. In the d. show guests this week include steve gora from blue chip. We haven't had a recruiter on in a while so we're gonna be talking about it. What's hot in the i._t. Job market here in metro detroit also one of our favorites pretorious teaser favorite too but for toria catania's house hatch detroit. The contest is coming up. She's gonna talk about how to submit all the good stuff about the program and how to get involved dave fire and ready or listening to the podcast caster treatment visit w._w._w. Dot podcast detroit dot com more information. Following program is intended for mature audiences. That's gary. You're bob your game. This is the i._t. And the d. show this is my max headroom and what you're about to witness is one of the most sinister sounding controls to a trailer to one of the greatest epics ever. This is billy dee. 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That is the six dip and where is that when the principal downstairs at the bar where they have i feel really and we just talked about having pretzels and bells. We haven't done that event yet so we'll be talking about. It's one of the best honestly i'm gonna throw it out. It's is one of the best basement bars in this whole entire region. It's pretty cool there <hes> and then august fifteenth. We're gonna have a special announcement. That might be coming today otherwise it will. You'll hear about it tomorrow or the next day. Were figuring out where to go. Get it. It'll be there when it gets there indeed so i had a hell of a week dave. Oh don don't even on so you know. There's always like robocop two or something i gotta watch and it's deals on cinemax and i was getting <music> air messages right and basically i'm like what's going on. All my cinemax have been gone all weekend so i told you i'd similar experience. I think it was a saturday morning. I wake up and i'm flipping through channels. I'd just gotten done getting hammered funeral all that nonsense. I see there's <hes> meatballs meatball says try again so i like any good tech guy would do and what does it say. Comcast drop cinemax so i re- reset the software on my set top box and now it says subscribe twelve ninety nine a month wait to get cinemax back in my bill hasn't changed so i no longer have access to all of shannon tweets greatest hits. No no no no no more one in the morning. <hes> david coveney's specials red shoe diaries so i decided i'm gonna call support art. And what do i find out what what what pray tell what impact for the first time i've spoke. It was actually really human being ignorant. Every one of my calls is pretty much this and let me just tell you something <hes> a._t. And t. on cinemax on time warner and they decided to put the screws to us in comcast basically said screw you and knocking to carry any more or if you want to pay twelve and unite. I'm like what i'm paying. You didn't drop my rates like that. It was part of the right guy. That's had this conversation with comcast at least every six months from all right. Look you raising using my rates raise rates. Were like well. You know if you wanna drop academic none of them not the guy on every channel guide guide call you every forty five days going. I read about new channel online. Why don't i have again mom. The guy's been paying for red zone all summer and i'm like shit football season zizou not gonna look at my bill moore but so here's the thing i'm not. I'm not mad comcast. I'm not mad at a._t. And t. lugubrious a mad at this is something that the government didn't let happen in the eighties where all these content or these service providers were buying content content providers so now what you have is comcast owning n._b._c. universal right at a._t. And t. owning a time warner bob why eh for monopolies yeah. I never was against it. I never vote for monopolies unfair business practice all day so here's what i'm saying so a._t. And t. owns <hes> h._b._o. As well so now here we are sitting in. I'm paying as we just talked about. This two weeks ago that the new service is called h. b. o. mac right right so here. I am spend two hundred twenty two dollars a month for four h._d. Set-top boxes with two d._v._r.'s and i'm not getting and now they're they're basically i gotta go by youtube. I gotta go by hulu netflix. Go spotify and you know what they can all eat my ask. I think i'm done with all of them on pulling the plug in similar news dish network is currently not carrying the fox sports affiliates because of contract negotiation dish never just lost a million millions of scribner's because they suck gonna say. I mean you know you gotta. They gotta do something. They just launched a million subscribers when they raise the rates. I didn't how how much did the rate for to lose a million subscribers. That's a lot how many how would the price go up to what you can talk. I heard it was four dollars dollars. There's no way a million people dropped it over four dollars bobby are you have you listen yourself for the last three minutes. Yes over fourteen in twelve ninety nine. I mean sorry listen. Cinemax has been with me since i've been a we lead since maybe thirteen years old you always at h._b._o. Cinemax those part part of the cable experience. I know i'm an old man and i know that you know everyone's unplugged already molly the last one that's still buys cable t._v. and shit like i feel like i am i. I don't have it. I know what i know. Has it except dave dave's old like me. You have an antenna and descriptions. We're talking about it today at work. I think i'm gonna do sling or like like h._p. Seriously i can get slaying through roku right all the t._v.'s that i have in my house are row coups right. It's an honest but here's the problem bob so i did the math like literally if i drop if tomorrow i decided i'm dropping the boxes. This is off that i have still two left in my house. If i drop those off at comcast and say you know what i'm dropping cable but i still need to keep my internet internet where it is. The price goes up anyway. It's going to be one hundred now. It's not a bundle right. 'cause you're getting the triple play for the phone number. You never you know never phone never got delivered to me but it still there so that's the thing so but speaking of this so thankfully we're going to grab my phone. I wanna be sure that these numbers right so the kids are out of school and this was <hes> the beauty of the kids being out of school so you know they have that the whole you know you get a terabyte of data and how could you ever from in a million years ever go over a terabyte of data terabytes of data. What download your stream yeah. I gotta wear <hes> however i don't think like do i wish i wish so currently like they showed me <hes> where it was for the past few months and it was like hey you're at six hundred gigs. Hey eh you're at eight hundred gigs. Every device at my house is likewise might never <hes> so as of yesterday <hes> i. I am at one thousand two hundred eighty four gigs for the month of july. I have at one point almost three terabytes of data streamed. Thanks kids being out of school and and that's that's amazing. That's thankfully comcast does have a courtesy overages that you get to like. Go nuts for for three months three times seventy three senior citizens on your block that only watch dr phil and oprah all day they don't do you think you okay yeah whatever never bend with capture garbage but clarification earlier. It was direct t._v. That lost a man's yeah dish. No i said direct t._v. Yeah oh whatever it's the same shit different wait what owned by a._t. And t. though right direct t._v. Yeah yeah okay so got a little <hes> mind blown on you forgot but they're replacing it with something value tell you they're increasing. Its channel. This shit's channel listen. I look through. I look through this shit's chill. It's it's basically opens up an app like netflix and there's two hundred eighty. Four movies greg me if i'm wrong. Maybe it's three hundred eighty four and like the newest movie. I saw was like easy money in like back to school. I just watched your quite. It opens up an app. It's not even like like what the hell is this shit. You can't just let me play it. You have to make me open like that's what the guy tried to replace the hitchin. I go really channel really we. It's all the leftover sheet. Netflix didn't want really right but most of the movie on cinemax that are also on h._b._o. Hit a greater value shut shut up randy comcast says i want i want to say i was i was thinking i was going to be like eddie christmas vacation. I want michelle l. gilbert to come out of her really white house march but down in our studios explained to me why i gotta pay twelve ninety nine for my goddamn cinemax <music> sorry but <hes> my my pain in the ass is dot <hes> who has decided in their infinite wisdom that they are yet again closing closing 696 between mount road and ninety four heading east because they didn't have that close for an entire year. I don't know what the hell are redoing to it but my drive home tonight's gonna suck or more of the point my who were home to. Nobody cares about your drive home. Dave just you do but no one else does. Yes why you keep closing major highways eight mile normal people somebody go further. Why would why don't. I don't know all i know is i watched <hes> probably one of the uh most horrific documentaries i've ever seen in my life. It's one of the best is one of the scariest. No it wasn't faces a death and no it wasn't about my food poisoning this this weekend <hes> i if you haven't seen it. It's called the great hack and really boiled down to insiders the former c._e._o. And the a former director of business development of cambridge analytica and it talked about <hes> basically talked about how the data data they took so there's there's a gentleman also that jumped in the fray in the suing cambridge a- analytic is just a normal joe <hes> guy here in the u._s. right and he wants to know. We had to hire lawyers in england because that's where c._a.'s parent company is in order in order to make this work but all he wanted to know was okay. What's the data point you have on me. And who are you selling it to of only his didn't want to know anything else so then this thing it all comes out on how they manipulate behavior until they've taken credit for elections <hes> locally and nationally and what they did this was mind blowing to me so what they did is they didn't take the people that are staunch liberal staunch conservative. They never targeted me. I they never i don't think they target him either but i mean they talked <hes>. What was the word the that was targeted or it was psychological warfare. No no no no the word it was like the the mediums like swayed persuadable thank you and what they did was they would find out who the persuadable were and every one of those personality tests that you took on facebook facebook modeled the worst cheesy cinemax knock off the expendable that i've ever heard out right but but these people will do these personality profiles so so then basically they took these personality profiles mixed it in with five thousand data points rate so then they they get bombarded step back. This is part of that whole facebook opened up access to cambridge analytica which basically took all of your data all of your legs and in case you weren't paying attention even if you're the one that took the stupid facebook quiz and this is why i yell at everyone who does one of those oh stupid. I don't see them ever again. Would i be because not only does that. Open up not only did they get all of your information. They got all of your friends in for every every one of your friends and so all the people that did the old man face old lady phase. I ripped all your friendship down to so so the kind of going back they they would take these persuadable 's and whoever would buy their service they were barred them with <hes> on on anything on basically anything related either social accounts trying to persuade them to a certain party and they talked about how they did this in eleven countries around around the world <hes> the smaller like basically test markets to prove that they could do whether it was indonesia or nigeria or <hes> <hes> <hes> trinidad tobago and they basically proved out we can target those people with messaging that will do exactly what what they want them to do the do the trinidad tobago thing was basically they targeted like the younger population to just stay home that voting voting like makes you fit like that's supporting the government in general and voting stupid and yet idiotic so what happened the old guard won that election election and it was and they and they showed like all these videos of all the young people that were doing their own like promotion of their campaigns which then moved into brexit accent which then moved into the trump campaign well. I know we don't wanna get political but like it's what they literally showed how they like seventy eight thousand votes. It's it was seventy eight thousand votes that won that election and what they showed was how they specifically targeted those persuadable not only by state date but by precinct in that state probably down do that whole crooked hillary that entire meam that entire concept was created by cambridge analytica which by the way was founded by the guy from breitbart in case. You didn't know that obama was the obamas part of it so he put all shits it started with ted cruz winning iowa who had no biz wasn't even on the mat was there so that was i trial run the republican party here in the united states. They took ted cruz from tent on the list to the guy who just just barely lost out to trump so i have. I have an interesting point and they were well. The bomb they dropped was at this point in our in our lives. A data has surpassed oil l. in its value and i was like my jaw just dropped what the bombshell in that to me was. They were being held legally culpable for conducting crimes of war against the european population for what they did with the brexit vote because that's how the british government class. It's literally psychological warfare. That's literally what it's classified as and that's what they're being tried on. That's what those charges are related to so you look at what ends like that was. The thing is when the girl that was behind it. They thought i i i feel no sympathy for somewhere. They tried so hard she tried so hard to paint herself as sympathetic figure no because and she i highly by the end realized and even said there were so many meetings along the way she's listening to recordings of herself in meetings laughing about fixing using brexit about getting trump elected laughing about all this shit and she's like yeah i i really should have walked out years ago and that's great and they show somewhere somewhere in thailand where she's a hot tub right infinity pool right right resort in thailand right. I feel for you really i. Do you know along the the way i was kinda thinking. I was trying to be objective right while watching into my jaws. Just dropped like what's it. Is it like you're all you're doing. Is it that easy to to sway an election. Where you're buying running ads on facebook like is it. Is it come to that as a society so that was that was the big revelation. Is that do the british parliament flat out said with this kind of technology and motion it is physically impossible for us to have a fair impartial election process because can you and i'm sorry different so explain to me like this is a thought i had. Maybe i'm way out in left field or stupid. How's it different from like budweiser spending forty million dollars during the super bowl to sway us to buy bud light i. I'm just curious like well. Is it targeted. It's targeted marketing and advertising is not or am i wrong. I don't believe that t._v. Has the same impact that social media does and that was that was part of it that whole thing about facebook where they've basically taken all of the lessons learned from mm-hmm casinos and gamification and site cyclops in that kind of stuff and turn it into a i. I look at dopamine trigger for people. We've talked about this a million getting alike so like that and that was part of that whole you know what what they did with those targeted ads and what they did with with god. What was it like the the clinton campaign ran sixty sixty six thousand media ads compared to the that trump campaign and through cambridge analytica that ran eleven million like jets insane to me you know and so you know you and you look at where those targeted buys went and i am sorry that it does we just a million times it comes down to those are the people that are voting like if you're at like and i do because i look at how many people still to this day well trump. Did this yell crooked hillary hum. Well guess what that was a phrase created by by a company that was designed to manipulate your intelligence and manipulate your thoughts and you've completely fallen prey to it. Now i think even less of you every dude. I mean you go through any election cycle. Everyone grabs three talking points and that's all they use like if you talked to anyone that the educated voter is very rare you get the eighty five percent in the middle that use like three talking points and i don't care what side of the aisle you're on you all. Do we all do it for the most part but i mean that's the and that's the issue is it was the the specific targeting of those persuadable. 's that too i mean you think about how many votes are cast in a national election and seventy eight thousand. Were the result and you've got. You've got video footage of those guys with trump celebrating the victory. They were saying like they did then. They show the emails going. We did it and i was like wait. We did it like like advertising firms. Don't take credit for like sales jumps. That's why so like in my mind. I'm thinking of it is targeted advertising. Keep which analytica did right and maybe i shouldn't have but like ed firms never like we did it like gps number one or you you know remmy martin's the best-selling cognac brandy. I mean sorry <hes> but you know what i mean is. It is bizarre if you haven't watched it though the great hack back like it's my seriously wanna get freaked out about how much of your data's and that's the thing they taught in because that's one of the things they talk about is. It's all the data we you fallen terror. We gave it to him yeah. You know but it's it's then okay. What is what is it then being used for and so they do they talk about you know all the movements that are going on now to allow allow people to take control of their data but you know like on some late dude. It's sort of like the g. League nassar genie's out of the bottle but like my whole thing thing is okay great so came genetic shutdown. Who else is now out there doing this that we just don't know about like who's that company. That's operating in the shadows that we that we just don't know who they are because that was the thing like nobody knew who came gentle. That was the whole there was an oh shit moment where i think what did did zuckerberg spill the beans like where all of a sudden in one day there was like sixty three thousand articles posted about cambridge analytic on and then like the old ceo's like oh shit route like nobody knew who you were the c._o._o. And there was like y'all yeah that day who were like oh shit. I love this quote that there was you know based on the technology in the way things are moving. There was always going to be a cambridge analytica. It was just my shit luck that it was cambridge right well. There's there's ten behind them so yeah. There are other companies out there. He busted drug dealer. There's ten behind them but no just from an i opening just from an eye opening perspective of just hey attention to what it is. It's that whole it preys upon. We talked about it. A million times seventy percent of people don't read beyond the headline that headline agrees with what i think share done and it creates echo chamber factors. There's like but it isn't just doing. It isn't just in my opinion. It's not just doing the stupid. What garlic bread are you. It's you look go to go to activity dot google dot com right now. It showed everywhere you've been. They know every purchase you've made like it. This goes way beyond me. Sit hitting like on the nicer page on facebook dude like they give the we willingly give them. Our lives everything i've bought. They know everything. Amazon comes to the house. They everything's readings pay cash for shit anymore. Does you do but i don't know what we're all willingly. We're all willing. Participants in this fricken wicked game unknowing purnell. We're willing. We don't track me but don't take my g._p._o. We've been arguing about them. Ask those those people who are taking those tests have no idea until you told me about what those men. You don't realize it because you're not you guys that you have that information. I stopped one hundred percent. I want to know what kind of crazy bread i am. Extra cheese the extra chassis yes but you know i mean. I do want to note but i will not try although i have a question i._t. Related what about the i heard about the technology that is able to put a person's <hes> like face on it makes it look as though they're actually saying yes ask so yeah. We talked about a while ago that saying no no that's. That's the next crazy thing. That's going to be hitting. Probably this election cycle is so deep it. I used to be do you remember the old movie rising sun with wesley snipes and sean connery in how like they've easily faked videos and all that kind of stuff and made people disappear were we're at that point where that can be done in real time with software you can download off the internet and anyone can do and i literally take a video of donald trump. Make a couple of tweaks and say whatever i wanted to say and you would never know that it's not him saying it and so that's the world we live in now but are they not making any you like any restrictions or laws or anything to prevent that that's and that's the they don't comprehend it. Did you watch the zuckerberg. Try it with congress gave those clowns don't know what the internet is. Let alone to yeah how do you how do you make money mr zucker like what bikes data data data data yucca exactly exactly and then selling them do that was the crazy thing to the aspen and that was honestly the fascinating one of the fascinating sending parts to me. It was like the whole mueller investigation and basically it's the hundred twenty six billion dollars that russian company. We spent via cambridge analytica to push these articles in that kind of stuff. That's what he was going well. He wasn't going after trump dave. Did you hear the stats stats on why they did. The facebook spend more than any other spend because everybody goes because the engagement was like triple versus any other way they ever by so it wasn't necessarily it to me. That's why it's different from budweiser blowing dollars on a super bowl ad. We've laughed about that forever. You want to spend four million dollars. I got a million in ways you can spend four million dollars better than a frigging super bowl at but do you think it's because of the demographic that's a facebook person because they are of an older group that are traditionally much more engaged and so when you spending money on people who are used to voting who are used to fighting for things who are you and they think that their trust this platform as a new platform they possibly are the they are the best target. My mom is the best target for this. I mean that's like i said i mean that's the issue. Is that people don't. They don't fact check. They don't read they don't pay attention to shit other than that aligns with what i think. Share it and get it out there. Because it aligns my narrative. Everyone's got their own little and we all see it. Other people have blocked. Hey we got like three hundred cool articles this week i do we gotta. We gotta talk about this one. That's dude the kid. I sat i i nine year old son down last night and said okay john. I'm gonna need you to step up your game a little bit because you're spending all this time playing fortnight and yet yet you are not this sixteen year old kid from pennsylvania that just one three million dollars playing fort nine million million million sixteen years old one three million dollars playing fortnight in their world tournament. What do you have to do just kill people like that and and and and the article was phenomenal even talked about basically he's <hes> he just sits there and hides behind shit and he's a sniper and just sit there and kills me. Why hate snipers. He's that guy. Oh anyone three million dollars battlefield. I always come behind him and hit him with the electric paddles the whatever the redistributors whatever you're gonna make fun of me for mispronouncing it. That was my favorite thing to do and battlefield. There is a couple of weird ones. We just hit on it <hes> we we talked about regulation <hes> sprint t. mobile twenty five was a twenty six billion dollar merger. Nobody knows t. Mobile's deutsche telekom yeah for those the damn crowds they brought in all these they brought in their trader joe's and now they brought in their mobile so i mean sprint softbank from japan. So is it yeah since when forever no really. I'm stupid and for the love so do this equifax story so we talked about it. I jillion times the whole equifax breach that happened that and it was. Let's be real. It wasn't even a breach. They sold our data to people that they weren't verifying and basically all all of our data. When there was a company we didn't binding from right <hes> so <hes> the quote unquote breach happened <hes> and they probably oh everybody on the planet or at least in the united states one hundred twenty five dollars but at least here's the best part to me so you have to go to this website where you put in the last six of of your social and your birthday and then it goes yet you were breached so and then they said but here's the thing if you have the database base of everyone who was breached then you know who you should just be sending a hundred twenty five dollars to you have to whack a save what you've got to go to the website and you have to prove. You just bought a credit reporting tool. They're not just giving you one hundred twenty five bucks. That's why this whole thing is bullshit credit karma his credit karma is bullshit kiss my accounts. A guy came to me today and he goes so i went. I clicked on this link and i entered my information formation equifax and they said that was breached and i go wait a company. That was quote. Unquote breached you put your information and he goes well yeah and he goes either. One hundred twenty five bucks walks or i get six months credit monitoring for because what should i do angle. Why the hell would you put your information in there in the first place right. No no. I i agree with you. I'm not doing it. I don't give a shit. Traffic is that if you don't do it then they're not paying out one hundred twenty five dollars dollars and so then there's no penalty eventually. That's my whole point. You wanna make this be a thing that hits them. You send that money out automatically. What's like the letters you like. Did you buy chewing gum from one thousand nine hundred seventy nine hundred eighty nine do you ever have you had any encounters with a human being between nineteen ninety-seven in two thousand four the receipt you may be entitled to a huge cash receipt from that farmer jack where you bought that chile's gum we can give you a seventy nine percent of the class action lawsuit anyway. <hes> speaking of <hes> class action lawsuits seventy nine said gov. We're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna be back with steve gore from blue chip. We're going to be talking about the i._t. Talent market in metro detroit this the team that he show back into view i._t. In busy reads meets listen networking detroit's one day at time. Hey this is john schneider from nip tuck smallville the haves and have not so dr quinn hot in cleveland the american teenager and just about everything you can possibly imagine an oh yeah the dukes of hazzard. You're listening to bob and dave the i._t. 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Bring it but hey we are joined by old old friend of ours one of the original attendees of the events back when he was like back twelve years old now. He's a twenty four year. Old executive steve gore blue-chip talent sir. Thanks for hanging out with us. Yes i'm all grown up. Yeah myself a wife a couple of kids. You're shaving now yeah every four or five days no we didn't we meet you. Can oh seven oh eight like i've been that it's been that long. It was the black fan when the black fin was still open and still awesome. Yes still awesome that was awesome for a couple of years but but you've been at the forefront of the talent game at least on the i._t. Front since since then we haven't had a recruiter awhile we kind of wanted to you know the old joke was dot najiba but like there's gotta be something else <hes> so i mean we wanted to bring in to kind of talk about the market today. Absolutely why appreciate that and <hes> obviously obviously have known you guys for way too long and if anytime for i mean i guess this is my little bit of a speech to get you n._i._t. Not they said that one point five million jobs technical roles are going to go unfilled this year. That's a lot of jobs. We have technical talent so we need folks in college doing it now or not in college learning how to code learn how to code. I don't care if it's boot camp. I don't care if it's on your own. Whatever we i need people they can do it. Because the hottest jobs right now our development even the technical the managerial jobs they want people who are technical in the past so some of her how to stuff now is devops. Everybody's been hearing about that but it's automating things but it's all scripting everything service. Now developers salesforce developer helper cells whereas administrators service now administrators. I didn't realize you ask like me. Being a united shore now learn how many salesforce developers they have. It's insane lena and they need them anymore. Oh my god yes so everybody's trying to optimize all the tools as workflow yes. It is pretty crazy. We we actually went to a conference. Last fall is tech serve alliance and they said that i._t. Is the only industry in the entire u._s. History that's ever been stifled by lack of supply. We always talk about early not going at the rate that it's supposed to be because like fly a security yeah right which means underemployment i would say wrong. It is underplaying native unemployment. There are people holding multiple jobs and there are still so many jobs available back in my old days of econ in college. They said healthy unemployment's like two to three percent in in these roles. I bet were closer to one that so that means if united hires somebody they're stealing from somebody else on. That's how many times have we heard this is when we did the pink slip parties starting back oh nine and that was like late twenty twelve into two thousand thirteen where we started hearing. Yes not so much that the people can't find jobs. It's the recruiters can't find talent. You're one of the people that are my ideal candidate. Tate is sitting in a chair someplace else. I've got to figure out how to coach him one hundred percent well you look at if you look at my situation they hired me because i was a cultural fit had nothing to do with technical talent. They didn't even care like they're bringing. People in that are not technical. This is how it's gotten with the talent lack zero seven million times like it's to me. It's always been like building a fish tank like dude. If you can fit in like personality wise culture wise. I can teach you attack all day long. That's that's a no-brainer like. I teach you the skills i need you to have but i need you to be able to fit in with the team to do it now. A few years ago companies is went offshore route h. One b. route of having an even even net. That's a problem in itself. Each when bees are becoming more and more difficult to get <hes>. It's called an r._v. Request for evidence is becoming more and more expensive in companies. Don't want to take the risk enor- that the folks at the and this is talking. I'm talking educated people that we need in our country to do this work. They're not even willing to move because they don't want to mess up with their visa process whatever and and we actually had even t._m. Visas chevy's used to be the easiest thing to do in the world. Those are the nafta between mexico or canada where folks come over from windsor or from canada that the head these degrees which had <hes> choose the java architect she worked for five years literally went to go get her t._n._n. They go. I'll give an engineering degree night in nineteen degree and cancelled their tent. She literally headed quit her job while five years so mind you this is sir this is this is what we want. We got his team to team the traveling from windsor everyday yeah it's not as it's not what it used to be anymore and so we've got to be careful of that but that makes the industry that much tighter in the reason why we need that much more talent and as we look at this whole big picture and like i mean if you look at like scrum master did that just come out of the woodwork as being like a sought after because i'm hearing everyone i talked to now. Every recruiter needs chrome astor's like i know that it just got born out of like at agile methodology but like the new hot buzzword. Was you know it was java architect. It was scrub master with in with the rise of agile. You've seen that turn more and more. That's that's just the new the new thing that's going to save. Everyone is yeah. I had lunch with summit today day. She just got promoted in the company and her titles agile evangelist and they're basically flying are all around <hes> speaking the gospel and trying to recruit talent. That's how much badly people well. It goes in project. Management has been shifted almost as much as development has in and so yes. It used to be remember the biggest thing if you didn't weren't p._m._p. Certified you're you're it didn't matter and now it's p._m._p. Doesn't matter as much anymore. Replace the p._m. P._m. Just questioning you know now. They're certified scrum master now. They're safe certification so you know you had it's a and that's one of the big shifts like you're saying earlier as more and more like getting into that devops blended world it used to be the project managers were business only people and it was they went through their p._m. He they lived and died by the pimm bach <hes> and it was like this is how you run a program according into the business well finally businesses figured out. Hey business technology don't always align when it comes to that stuff and at the end of the day we need the technology win in order to support the business so we want technical pm's that was the rise of that. Turn so then the technical p._m. Started you basically counterpart outer part. The business only p._m. Usually p._m. Certified then you had a we don't really need that additional cost of the business only p._m. Because the technical b. m. is is actually doing this stuff. So then you had that then. You had that teco p._m. Rising into more and more managerial roles and so something like this master is just that next. It's it's the developer who solid with agile or the p._m. That solid with agile that understands how to coordinate and organize and run those teams hundred percent. Yes absolutely and that's that's the challenge technical people typically wanna technical. They don't want to go to that scrum. I was working it was or or you're you're. You're in escalating well. There's a guy on my team. That was probably the smartest technical guy on this on the floor. They put them into a a basically my role and he's like a month and he gave me out of this active drive. I mean you know i want my hands. Dirty binary network vote code never calls in sick. Co co doesn't have feelings code. It's much easier to be strictly attack but i mean to be fair. Managerial roles are actually a learned trait and it's not very simple to just go from coding just suddenly being a manager you you've got somebody who's a developer who then becomes attack lead who then becomes an architect that doesn't mean he has his social skills to open so if you're a tech lead you should be having developers report to you. If you're an architect. You should be having tack leads and developers report up through you so you should have some of the now granted. It's is a different. It's a little bit differently. I haven't told for fifteen years now like my my strongest asset is not my tech. Skills is my ability to talk server room and server like i can make gigs understand why business needs gordon boardroom dave. I can understand why the business has to have things done. I you can make the business understand why the internet zork that way. You know somebody like that's. That's the whole way and that's you need and so. That's what that one guy you were. Just talking about bob didn't have he didn't have of that business side or that business didn't want to have it and that's okay. I don't like coating and that's totally right. I i don't see coding yeah. I mean it's for everyone so i mean but i'm still seeing. We just hired a couple network engineers. I mean we're the i think. I don't think the cisco stuff is dying anytime so infrastructures structure's not define it all. I think i've been saying this for on your show for the past probably six years companies are now are are investing infrastructure more than ever now with a._w._s. Google suite all these things they're going to the cloud. They're spending a lot of money moving. Their databases is in their infrastructure to cloud. We're seeing cloud architects now. You're seeing the stack. Getting <hes> basically dropped. Doing you know what <hes> doing. Software defined networking doing doing hyper converge infrastructure right. You're not seeing the. I'm a server guy. I'm a storage right now. You're seeing infrastructure. You know we have ours core. Apps infrastructure klein facing apps right there. That's really that's how i i t. Department is is defining. You're seeing being that. It wasn't like that eight years ago. Yes one hundred percent companies are looking for people who not only have a depth and breadth but they they know i'm sorry say that was at mile wide an inch deep type of thing versus a mile why mile deep they need folks to have knowledge and what they're doing and be cross functional how interacts and other departments in their company. They can't just have it be. You can't just be a windows server guy anymore. You don't know how it all works. How the sausage is made right right awesome so <hes>. How many openings every now do you even know oh. It's unbelievable. I mean between we always laugh when companies asks full stack java. We're like okay you and everybody else. What are you going to do to get them here. What are you going to do to get devops people. What are you going to do to get salesforce. Service now folks. We have to be more creative than we than you used to be. In in the past with just salaries not at any more companies are looking at other things. I don't care if it's flextime working remote. We you have to be thinking outside the box and if you're not willing to do those things that's okay. You're just not gonna fill your limiting vol one hundred percent in so so when clients call us now. I tell our sales people this. I tell our clients literally when they call me. I go eun. Everybody else needs these folks. What are we gonna do different. You can't keep adding onto the checklist of job description of what you need to put this in there. You're telling me someone that's program for x. Amount of time can't learn a new can't learn your framework can't learn right your front end tool candler no. You're you're telling me it's impossible and the answer is no. We just don't enough time for it. So my my answer. My question to them. Always is so. How long are you willing to wait to find this person. It's time versus money. That's always the so we're we're constantly in this. However the good news is companies are hiring hiring entry level folks were seen stuff <hes> <hes> we hired some folks out of grand circus. I know you guys have had them. In the past <hes> the market is good for i._t. And if it's one of those things if you could plant a tree ten and years ago what would you do go. Ninety percent grow apples grow apples yeah. No i like it. How do we find you online to check and see if there's anything anything that's fit yet. Check us out at blue chip. I think is talent dot com on surreal milia that will that's our. That's our website and we're always supposed to new stuff out there. Find us on facebook for blue chip talent wherein twitter we have <hes> zach ruby is our i._t. Guy or i should say your social media guy. He does an excellent job of keeping us opposed to linked in <hes> instagram everything pretty much. We're doing videos everywhere so check us out. Awesome steve is a pleasure having good senior. Hopefully we'll see what the next meet up <hes>. We're gonna take a quick break. We're going to be back. The toria catan ski hatch detroit. This is the idea that he show we'll be right back. In the day lead. Read meat. Listen networking detroit one bear at a time big time all bruce lee roy from the last dragon. You're listening to the i i t in the d dot com welcome back. This is segment the three zero three zero eight the one and only show broadcasts and live on randy's birthday and studio one here in podcasts straightened beautiful royal at michigan bob and sales guy dave the gig randy andy. It's my birthday trying to think of some funny to say the birthday latinity polish. You still wish him. Find us online align i._t. In the dot com you know why because we are not in the and i heard some stories this week in and made me laugh i to tell you i i did. Hey speaking of uh steve's conversation earlier. You have a ton of choices <hes> whether or not you wanna get a c._s. Degree of business info tech degree or you're a graphics design. You could do it all in one place locally and for a low cost schoolcraft college if you haven't been there check them out do favor hit schoolcraft dot e._d._u. e._d._u. Slash cis to check out all the awesome programs. They have and they're low tuition. Check them out schoolcraft dot e._d._u. Slash c. I s yeah the great people to well. We are joined speaking of great people by one of our favorite people vittorio kaczynski's in the house from hatch detroit. It is always a pleasure interesting. You and we're happy to lose your keys. This time i was winding down eight years ago. We've only six six years ago. How are you good to see you good to see you. It's always a pleasure to be here. Thank you guys so it. Is it <hes> we are accepting applications applications through july thirty first for those for those for those not in the notes. There's no. I know we know you very well but for those that don't understand how how kind of awesome this program is and how it's kind of leaped a few really awesome local businesses. Let's give a little history awesome businesses. Let's give a little history on what it is and let's talk about some of the past recipients and what they're doing absolutely so we're nonprofit and one of the programs that we have is the comerica had she troy contest and this year usually we had awarded people a fifty thousand dollar prize and it's year comerica. Can i understood the <hes> the dynamic of opening a small business yes and housing's changed since two thousand eleven in real estate supervisor going up double quadruple so in an effort to still maintain a world for these independent retailers. We've really worked hard. They've said yes to give one hundred thousand dollar prize for the person. That's that's insane. I know it's totally amazing. It's gonna make my life a little bit easier to. It's hard hard to open it. Help a business open all right. I mean yeah. I mean fifty grand amazing but it's you know it's also very limiting well. Fifty grand was amazing when a liquor license was ten two thousand dollars but from two thousand eleven till two thousand eighteen ninety five when you're looking at the costs and you know no construction costs are up at least twenty percent <hes> the time that it takes you to get somebody to build out so all those factors come in a way that require ear <hes> more money at the forefront in so that's where comerica bank came in and decided to give us a little extra cash so namedrop i mean we we have some of our favorites sir. Who are your favorites. You tell you tell me yours. I'll tell you like batch. We like sister pies. You're always going to never visit let me i live right around the corner from sister pie. You never call us anyway i do there was a few those of you. That are really liked that never made it like the toy <noise> house or what was. I loved him spill house yeah because my name yeah. That's why <hes> well. They didn't make it. They made it to the tap ten so let's let's let's can we go back because i forget. We get into this together so what we're doing is. We're launching a contest with <hes> you you know to basically identify ten businesses that will open up to the city of detroit hamtramck highland park and the grand prize is one hundred thousand dollars colors from comerica bank and then <hes> basically that winner also will be getting pro bono services in the form of legal engineering hearing so how did men gives us legal services giggles webster gives us engineering support <hes> hamilton anderson architectural support. I've spent bent over the we spend as an organization for lay over forty five hundred hours of direct contact with them not not to talk about the extra stuff we do to help them open up when they're not even in my to our doors and we basically what we do is we we announced ten businesses to the city that then go to a public vote in the benefit of that is just the name recognition and the excitement around potential businesses to open those businesses go down to four those four businesses are then yes chosen at the hatch off and the winner gets the prize but what we do with the tap ten once you're in our fold you become one of our alumni and we worked as as hard as you will allow us to to help have you open when you get more and more and more submissions every year like just getting not remember these conversations with you. It's harder and harder order to get down to ten because of the increasing number of applicants and this year is exceptional. However you know don't want to discourage people from being a a part of it because even though the applications are there is a lot of them we do give feedback to every single one that asks for that feedback so if you are one of five hundred fifty applicants you can schedule a half hour appointment with us and you know we will give you very specific feedback back on where you need to go and where you should be going to open your business moving forward so it's still a benefit <hes> we're one of the only people organizations that actually give that direct feedback back. I believe like one on one and <hes> it's helped people to come through the doors one year and get in the top ten the next or win the next i i remember like every year. We've had the file for on our show. There hasn't been a single year where we didn't know who was gonna wind winning by the end of that show we do. We talk about this. All you guys should punch some weird. You should put together your weird i._t. Data e things and and come up with a winner. It's a smell calls you. It's not rocket science. There's people that walk in here and they put their foot down. They they know their sister pie. She was the one on for that new business inside and out backwards and there was every her personality her there was no hymning and hauling nothing they were on the ball. They were very pat. Not only the passion like you see there is they had conviction about the businesses owned bar glad you mentioned that because that's actually the most important part of winning is having that passion so we really want to make sure people ask what makes a winner and seeing that passion is one of those things so understanding. Your business is important but really wanting to be in the business if the i don't like incredibly import the is don't late up. It's it's a sniff test. That's the test if you don't like if you're gonna wake up and eat sleep even in lisa from sister pies example. I mean her. Her business opens every morning very early at what i'm gonna say seven o'clock and i look to make sure on the website that that's the right joe but the line at least there at seven o'clock a._m. She's actually actually in that business and her people are starting to work at four o'clock in the morning. You have to get up and work at four in the morning. You have to have passion every day a little bit of insanity but it's transformed a corner of the city <hes> you you know she's been an amazing asset to the organization so his amina you've met amelia from live cycle delight who's just around the corner from her and let's say like you know. She starts her classes at five o'clock in the morning and there's nothing more like it makes me very are you excited to be able to have that in my neighborhood and she's an amazing asset to the west village community so i guess for people that are like thinking about you know because there's two days laught what kind of businesses like tend to make it through like what what's eye catching what like what what sets them above and and to help them get to the top ten unlike a lot of contests. We don't require a full business planning method so really what sets <unk> sets you apart is your ability to really talk about what it is that you want from this business so like bob talked about the passion the gleaming the i we can't see the gleam room at that point in the process but we offer many many ways for that to come through through the paper and through your attachments and things like that so what we really want to see somebody that's not just i don't like my current job. I really don't you know aw job. I want to open a bar but is steven from batch company. That's like beer so great in every moment he's like loving beer and he's just beer chanson fun. You know beer so that's what we want to see through the paper <hes> <hes> it's also really the the the the budget on this and we've really worked hard to understand what can make a small business succeed in the city and that's one of the reasons we went back and asked for an additional amount of money from comerica was that we were looking at the budgets and it just doesn't work what the costs and the rising costs are for sure so we and and also to be fair. We also want people who need the the money so you know we're not one of those organizations that just because you wanna open a business in the city. We're going to give you one hundred thousand dollars and your dad's a millionaire but he doesn't want to give you a trust fund until you're forty seven years old. We're looking for people who can't save that money and that really do have the passion the product the expertise the history to open a strong business businesses going to change their own community well and so i think that's part of it is how much of it comes down to filling a niche or a need within the the city because you guys are all within the city well adding on that. If you look there there's a food <hes> not drain but places are closing ano- there's so many places opened up restaurants or whatnot and you're seeing them all kind of dropping slowly but they're dropping. I mean sure that's that's gonna happen anywhere. In any business fifty percent of small businesses closed within a year and then the percentage. Is you know <unk> from there but i think the difference with our businesses i they go through the <hes> the contest itself so unlike many any of those businesses they have the ability to be protested or at least concept tested with the public. We have <hes> you know the numbers of votes as we have four hundred thousand votes that happen so it really the name recognition is out there. The marketing appeal for a small business that they get without without a lot of money is incredibly helpful. We hear that from oliver businesses that go through <hes> also. I think that the passion shen makes you stay open. I mean often our businesses. Choose not to take a paycheck for so many years and somebody who's going to not really have any passion is just there for the paycheck will never make the sacrifices that it takes to actually be a successful independent retailer drew but we're not just food based however are food products that come through our doors as well is like our our <hes> partners doors like at food lab and everything there's there's a certain amount of just love for the city and for what they do so their product is topnotch says you mentioned sister pie food lab grad hatch detroit alumni <hes> we have norma g who's food lab had she alumni we go through a series <music> of places in the city that make them a lot more successful nonprofit said support their work and i also i have to say that you know when you look at what's happening in the food world in the city from just like the generic world we were like all ooh burgers are in and and then i'll pizzas now in and you know have another pizza joint open didn't cheer donald's just close down donald's in the city of detroit in chicago. I never had one instance ready wanted to wait forty five minutes to an hour and a half for pizza pizza papua's. You want that kind of pizza yeah but that's that's exactly the thing are in. Thank you for mentioning that so jeered. Donald's did close down but that's not our business. Our business is a small independent person. That is a destination business to the city of detroit whereas like people that want to have the chain restaurants. It's a cliche that not really clientele hi. It's l. to come to the businesses that goes through us. Humane myrtos sister pipe patriots. Don't go to ihop abe's shocked shocked what i actually want to have some of our business. I mean the the lines out. The doors are insane. Never linux jere donohoe's. I don't even think there's one there in chicago. No more but you know you're right pizza populace it something it's detroit is one of the original restaurants restaurants and greektown with pegasus added on one of the original greek town growing up a forty six years old. It's that's been as long as everything else has been there uh-huh and forty-seven but no he's been there since you were seventeen not one of the original to me. That's one of the re just mind yeah. No you're right. I don't feel shame santa. Don't look amelie test well. It's been there forever for you totally so <unk> as of july thirty first is the submission deadline. How so i'll try to rushing it this out tomorrow just to be safe. <hes> so then what's the process after that what's the timeline where where do people find out more information and go apply and all that kind of stuff so all the information throughout the entire contest from application to end our is available on our website which has had she's detroit dot com and from the time that you apply we actually take a lot of time and now like looking through and reading being every single application. I actually go out of town to do it so i can sit in seclusion room and just read applications and nobody can bother me for anything for an entire week we then take there's a group of just three or four of us that reduce down to a certain number and then we bring that number to a larger group of about sixty five people people that group helps us determine the top ten the top ten will be announced on september twenty seventh and then <hes> we then voting's open right then and it becomes very public <hes> until tap four are announced in october and then we give the final final group after that cool so awesome vittorio always a pleasure seeing you and we will look forward when the final four come on we <hes> you're invited ready to come back and we will have the bake off as we always over here that that would be awesome. I'd yeah whoa whoa yeah that'd be fun. Let's do that <hes> but hey. We're going to wrap things up episode three hundred yeah go ahead rainy <hes> before we wrap. 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006: Current State of HBO Max

The Streaming Wars

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006: Current State of HBO Max

"The latest happenings regarding your favorite streaming services find out which savage is winning the war this time around you're listening to the Stream in laws. The PODCAST THAT DISCUSSES YOU WANNA dive into I is while we've done this for at least a couple of these episodes disclaimers so as a disclaimer the last said the price is unknown the service itself is set to launch in early twenty twenty according to everything that has been said originally it was have Disney plus an apple TV plus and obviously the existing players of Amazon prime video and Netflix already out in the market for them has stock or anything like that the current stock prices thirty seven dollars and they have a value of five hundred thirty one billion dollars in assets I'm as in have price we don't have the exact release date but here's what we do know about. Hbo Max Hbo Max is obviously deriving from the is that obviously already exist and the ones that are about to launch in the coming months there is Hbo Max and Peacock which is the one we'll be covering the next time I would just probably assume at this point that we will probably have an episode releasing it the next day if not the the day right away white won't the more from one thing that they originally announced into something that is completely different than what they originally announced but the the other day to keep in mind is Hbo Max which I'm assuming they're going to roll out prices they're going to rule out the actual plan for it and probably announce a release date because their goal owned by HBO Maximum Peacock we have just a very little amount of information we don't actually have a ton of information for Hbo Max we view May Have No may know but some of you probably don't that man is owned by war media so I'm very up to date with a lot of the things that's happening within the confines of who launch at least in Beta by the end of twenty nineteen but that's not happening but we'll get into some more of how this how this service has morphed into word HBO is located which is more media or media is owned by at and T. if you look at at and T.'s value because warner media who man it's almost thirteen years that's a long time phyllis thirteen years I have ran a website called the Bama universitat nets were it's all about Batman and as many as I all accounts is to get this released as early in twenty twenty as possible but they also want to make sure that they're out there before peacock as well because they're already going announce this stuff talking about everything that they announce Richfield Max because we'll be getting into our news episodes here very shortly so with that being said the one thing that works in reviews comics for that site as well and writes articles so that's how we met so we have experienced with at least some of the the others because of the stuff that I that I cover for this other sites that I presently work on Tony and I actually met through this other sites he connects current state of which this we're gonNA be talking about. Hbo Max Hbo Max is an Interesting Service because unlike the past services October twenty ninth is actually there's there's plans to have some sort of reveal on the warner brothers lot four so there's that but the other part of it is that one brothers has a massive massive library very very close I honestly could say that you're also familiar with as well so that all being said we have some experience with Hbo Max Are Not Hbo Maximum Warner Media As a company to you know to have competition so they need to at least get out there and not be the last of the major studios they're pushing a service there they need to be one of the they need to be out there her and available for people to get to checkout before they become the last basically an after thought so October twenty ninth lot more details obviously I can they produce and distribute a lot of television shows while Disney does have television shows they have not had that as a major focus for the company over the past out of those shows were not actually produced ABC so there's a lot of content on top of that one others also owns the MGM Library the products that that were media has also there's a ton of services that will talk about a little bit one of which is DC universe which we last fifteen years there's and on top of that while they own. ABC of the shows that were on ABC prior to Disney owning ABC they are undervalued the opportunity for at and T. to exceed outside of the telecommunications aspect and the ice piece aspect of different things it might be even more extensive than what Disney has in the sense of just the sheer output not necessarily the sheer quality of content but one brothers they also own a ton of other stuff they have lots of different studios outside of just more brothers pictures they own new line they have Castle rockets payment there's a lot of companies that were media is part of and that's not even touching on some of the newer media as far as the digital services which will talk about a little bit but disgust will I did not know that AOL owned worry that is interesting piece of Trivia it's clearly the parent company of were media at and T. wants to be successful and there's the their stockholders want to be successful because the this is a big deal for them and they really need the acquisition which cost one hundred thousand over one hundred billion dollars that you need this acquisition to go very well warner brothers is a very very very large company and they just recently were acquired by at and T. in the past couple of years and that me take a whole at and T. is while a major company that's been around for a very very long time they some people say that for them let's just say that so and obviously from the weather standpoint you don't want this to turn into another AOL situation where AOL went and bought born well back in the day of all dialup and good days so yeah Hbo Products Really just more the the comics I still watch a number of different shows on HBO. The one show that I watch pretty regularly because it's on more than just for the regular ten episode season is less in the same vein is like the daily show but it's only once a week so there's less commitment to following along with what's going on and which is nice because I don't have a ton of time others in the early two thousands and then intern AOL eventually became defunct because it was phased out and it became just a footnote new watchmen series the natural that is the game of thrones but yet very casual relationship with company as far as HBO specific. I I've watched a number of different shows you pay attention to politics news and things like that because I'm too busy keeping up with too many other news related subjects so I would say that that's the show elite semi besides the Gavitt casual relationship with HBO. I know about the company and stuff like that game of thrones Sadistic I'm not a bandwagon at all means that they have even more money behind what they could potentially do that's not to say that they have unlimited budget or anything but this is something that watch but like I I watch game of thrones My wife was the one who convince me to watch that I just basically she told me what it was about and I was like okay let's get genus let's watch it as time progressed in we watched more and more and more seasons released she became less and less thrilled with the Oh game of thrones eventually the show surpassed the book series and then they were kind of coasting on their own ideas instead of I don't cable so it doesn't follow the same FCC restrictions so my parents were like yeah you know HBO's bad it's bad content for the longest time HBO and side I mean like I know Warner Brothers puts at a bunch of movies now they put out a bunch of cartoons it washes a kid I watch a lot of the CW shows you know come on through the source materials so that presented its own separate tunnels cast yes but yeah so game of thrones game of thrones I'm see to get a lot of really good high profile talent because they have the budget for it so you'll see shows like big little lies which is a series tonight with John Oliver which is I I'm pretty amusing because it's a take on current events but very yeah it's yeah exactly it's it's very much I was surprised to hear that sincere books she'd like the TV show version of game of thrones fans who really complain about it. Well watchmen to I I do watch currently I'm watching ballers and righteous gemstones the ballers is actually just about to end so we got a couple episodes she really really enjoyed the books and she was like we should check out this show and I was like okay and the first episode aired we watched as like wow that was pretty good I would enjoy watching they had Nicole Kidman Reese Witherspoon and those are very big high profile names when it comes to the you know the Detroit and I I I have no problem I generally if she tells me something's GonNa be pretty good then I know it's going to be pretty good because she has a she she is one of those people thank checked it out and binged all I seven seasons all at once preparing for the eighth in all the eighth in like a kind of wanted to it's still a great series now to be fair it at all that she thought that the show was true the books or anything like that it was the show was coming she had read the books Sir Apple TV plus episode talked about how the Assumption is that apple is trying to go in the direction of HBO where they're trying to nail down these real high profile if she reads a lot of books so she knows the source material she has a good understanding of what to expect so that's always a plus I could be totally different conversation in July there is a teaser video showed that they said that there was going to be content from TNT and TBS and Adult Swim Cartoon Network Boomerang the creators and high profile actors and actresses to be in the projects and to be linked to their projects with the hope to produce really good quality and and you know the the CW era verse shows could be better but they're fun hour so if it's been an hour during the week notes it's a little bit to watch Marie content like HBO does of course we're talking about each bill Max though which is going to include way more than just the HBO content that we has its while it has the name each show which will by itself is an established name because currently this was an interesting fact hbo direction certain characters and occasionally she would tell me like Oh this characters left out completely and I'd be like oh well tell me more but then eventually as we all know film to television you want to go the HBO route because you because each go has a certain sense of quality we talked about in the apple plus you see stuff you have new lying castlerock you've got more pictures they've got each be oh there's a lot of content that is going to be part of this ars or they have a lot more mature stuff that I could watch but now cancel it's been a lot of fun it's kind of my relationship with the next thing appropriate shakeup from HBO though is a very very long time it's been around since the eighties when it was back to be home box office where people were subscribing specifically not necessarily for original content he threw HBO now which is a standalone service that you don't need to have a subscription to a cable service to have their five million subscribers as of twenty eight oh currently has one hundred and forty million subscribers worldwide and that's the service that means anybody who's subscribing to it whether in for the longest time everyone's like game of thrones is the best and the second call that call the BS but I was wrong so that's the biggest may have an interesting interesting debate immune you've had off the air is is should of should warner media at and T. it's like real athletes as the guest stars that's GonNa call yeah the the other thing that HBO has a tendency the HBO Company by themselves they've had attendance pre nineteen thousand nine hundred seventy I think it is because of some deals that happened with Turkey communications in the eighties in the history of this company so that'll be An said twenty what is your familiarity with Hbo Products Warner Brothers Products Outside of one of the we all are aware of if you're aware of each other content the other content that you're going to see is you're gonNA see well at least from their teaser video that they showed back labeled their new streaming service after HBO Specifically Hbo. Max I remember we had the discussion yes let's just have that right now I mean like the while it's no longer called Warner brothers it's called water media the reality of it is that the company has been around a lot longer the overall the overcompensating name of course also has to do with the fact that while HBO has this established presence within like at least been known about fifteen million or twenty between fifteen to twenty million less than Netflix has worldwide and then of course the differences that HBO has been around for an hour should they have named an Hbo Max to be fair I thought that they were going to go warner something because Warner Brothers has been the company that has been around the long are better than warblers and I'm guessing it has to do with the quality of content that is associated with one brothers and that's part of the reason why time I think those are the three big ones of the consistently lead in the awards best TV shows you know best performances and actors for you know is my trying to compare one hundred and forty million subscribers the way they have them to what Netflix has because it's not the new media it's the old version of media and EH and they're all part of Warner not HBO HBO's The decision to go with that name is an interesting choice and the only thing I can think of is you know it's different it's like you know espn where it's like yeah it's a subscriber-based but it's a different type of thing going on so exactly and by no means I think it is because the quality of content that HBO's had over the years it's it further long time HBO and Stars and showed being crunchy roll there's other content from some of the other digital services that they have rooster teeth but then on top of that you have the film studio so you have the gene for HBO now but one hundred and forty million people subscribed to each people worldwide which is a really really large number when compared to some of the other companies that exist that's only movies but to get them for a television show it's restore Meryl Streep believers in the first season two which I mean when somebody talks about going from yes they went that decision and they went that route because HBO is a very well known brand and they thought it could carry the the service well can even with how slow that's been going on and then you have HBO Max which is coming out after Disney we wanna say it's a rival between these two companies the time has passed where I've warmed up to it because it makes more it makes more sense for a bit from a business standpoint mostly because initially I was looking at it from the perspective of that was my biggest hang up on it but I mean I especially now doing more research for this episode on top of just you know building a better knowledge base for does eight the name. Hbo Max Really Feel like it's all encompassing all these other brands that have never really been associated with HBO and it's it's a different type of subscriber audience you know it's not all right allie part of like the modern you know get my phone out binge-watch this podcast it comes down to it's nice to know where they're coming from from a business standpoint and understanding it so there's that anti it's more to prove how established the name of HBO is There's a lot of people across the world that know what Hbo are is and subscribed more for the ability to watch movies very very soon after the were in theaters and let's play devil's advocate that's a sexy brand name let's use that so I'm in favor of it long story short I think we're pretty much on the same page I think initially I was kind of taken aback by the name but I think now guest and while HBO was its own thing it was it wasn't it hasn't been it doesn't have the longevity of the name Warner brothers they're going the route that they are will it's better than the name peacock that's true in what do you think whole cable television shows even for some of the movies to nave always put a good content now it it's one of those where everyone I see it 'cause maybe a little bit too so I think he's a smart marketing play but by one media knowing that they are decidedly disadvantage in terms of time I mean to talk about like their their DC outside of the name there's a couple of other things that are kind of interesting to bring up so I I I wanNA talk about this because this is in very they made this announcement back in October of last year so just over a year ago at the time when they announced this it was very interesting because as I pointed out earlier which will get into in Christina me so initially when they announced that they were going to be doing a streaming service now this was not necessarily before it was after Disney being play I think that's a well known brand I don't think a lot of people realized yeah like new line is under one brothers you know DC's warner brothers we're already out there much smaller much more niche services in the sense that they appeal to a very very specific audience if you like Annemie you get this one any so that was the intent but some point it changed and when they came back to the table basically in July they said idea of tiered system is they wanna include the stuff that's hbo they can't drop the price of HBO in general because of how it works with the existing kid so all of that being said then the Middle Tier I assumed it was going to be the one where it would be more of the mid range probably like twelve thirteen fourteen dollars and that would left so that's what the rock right Yep with Iraqi and yeah it's interesting I read the couple interesting guests providers with the market the already in can't drop the price significantly so they offer a tier where you have an ad supported systems you like old cartoons get this you like comic books you get this one that's the way a lot of their other services work and I thought to myself here for some people but you know they put great content in you have that established you know Brian to it's like Oh yeah. Hbo Is the home of Game of thrones ballers the reality is that Warner Brothers has has always been the parent of all of these other companies including the Turner products and a lot of the other things like the some regard at the same time can you really have an HBO or a service that includes the the quality content that HBO provides that he had already announced that they were doing there but they made a big deal about how they were going to do it initially they announced it as it was going to be a three tiered system they didn't explain what the tears were they didn't say what the price is going to be but they specifically said it was going to be a three tiered system and that some aspect of it was going to be ad supported now for the longest time that at the time which are very very low but more on the lines of competing with the lower end side of Netflix or low end subscription Hulu they released hyping up the service showed that it was all encompassing service so you can't say it's HBO Max and not include Hbo at least Food Basically Everything but not yet supported and then the higher tier would have HBO content because HBO is a premium service and it costs the premium tears they're doing a single price and everyone is expecting to be somewhere in the neighborhood of sixteen seventeen dollars because it's going to include everything because there there video that yeah it's coming after Disney and so that's that's also not a good thing it's come in after apple so I think naming Hbo Max is a smart play as had to be fair they never actually said that they were completely getting rid of the tears but all industry analysts that were talking about at the time said well they're not doing it kind of put him on like okay. HBO is like the next level remember as a kid one I was kind of poor to HBO had you know it's it's a universe the DC side of their streaming service they launch like in this kind of our I wouldn't really classify excess it's nearly a failure either but you a little bit here h HBO Bawar Media owns a lot of other streaming services and the string services the other ones that they they own and no he's like very will raise shows and it's like okay we'll HBO's can have the service they're going to add more content my guile I'll hold onto that aw over welcome to the latest episode of the streaming worse I am destined joining me as always Tony and we are here to talk about or you can watch a lot of the stuff in its lower price system that can compete with a lot of these other services their existing and obviously we didn't know the price point for Disney plus or apple TV pluses the properties and our white brothers because the WB singing I know that they do movies but you know whatever apple is a big brand named Disney's big brand name okay we'll HBO's Big Four so at some point it shifted and they announced that it was shifting back in July around the same time that they announced that they were getting the streaming rights to has always been ad free and and somehow parrot with ads no because it it downplays the quality of what they're doing and what they the that brand has stood then you have access to the entire HBO Library they have those for a lot of the different stations or a lot of the different channels that they actually own but ones because there's a lot of them but there's a lot of services that they offer as far as the services that are linked to your provider so for example. Hbo On started this Podcast we've been talking about this stuff for a long period of time how do you feel about them changing from the tiered system to at least as far as of it being a standalone service that you pay you have access to cinemax content they have rooster teeth which is a more online media you mentioned how you know Warner Brothers has all these exhilarate streaming services I think you know I never want people lose jobs but sometimes you know going to go over every single one of those because you get the idea but the other ones so they have cinemax which also offers cinemax go which is the same idea part of the announcement video so the question is we I know we had talked about this when they announced this because we've been following the stuff for a long time even though we just warner media to overcome I mean I guess now's the best time to tackle some of these other services that they offer so outside of the fact that they have HBO manned in the sense of it's called Hbo go it's a Standalone APP where basically use your log in information from your eyes P and in turn l. like as I said earlier they already have four million or five million subscribers with that service that's basically if you WANNA watch HBO but you don't have cable that would be your avenue of being able watch you just pay it upfront and I believe it's fifteen dollars per month at this point on top of that you've got I'm not going to go into every single one of the in the sense of the for the amount of content that you get it's actually very inexpensive it's four dollars but they have over ten thousand episodes of contents now an all encompassing system I like it I mean I think more contents a good problem to have a I'm worried about the price we're getting a lot we're getting a lot of things people for all these different services when you can put them all in one so I think from the consolidation standpoints gonNA saw Save Warner media at and t. a lot of money so that that spoon where they would be producing a number of different shows or films for the service over time that also announced some of the older content that would be coming to the service but a lot of it was bring them all into just one service so that WB I wonder media isn't like a biting cost of keeping up and maintaining restructure is a bad idea no one likes it but in terms of Warner media I think it's GonNa be good because with this new service they can consolidate a lot of their services with the one in media and I'm worried about the price Disney's coming out six dollars apple's coming out with five dollars net flicks is rounds you know ten eleven company that produces a wide variety of different content their best known for the red versus blue series booming which is very inexpensive that cost is offset on the consumer but I'm still worried that it's going to be on the higher tier in this just another thing that's another obstacle for the only content that's not on there that's part of those properties is they don't have any of the superhero stuff because a lot of that stuff is overrun another service called DC universe from all kinds of old Hanna barbera cartoons were brothers cartoons mgm cartoons have a lot of content on there for the price you get so many scooby Doo which not only offers street in on demand options to watch but it also offers very large library of Comic Books Rich Verve is a service that connects a lot of the other smaller ones like boomerang rooster teeth crunchy roll they also have digital channels within the service itself but then there's also CWC which is they own fifty percent of that long with a CBS and that's basically from DC comics to read and that price is a little bit higher but in the sense of compared to some of the other smaller streaming services ah people always think these corporate corporate buyouts are bad and everyone loses chops like that that that does suck recognize that but I think it's good easily be consolidated if they're all under the same banner of hypothetically Hbo Max which quite honestly I feel like that's the direction for a lot of these because exclusive online content specifically made for the CW but doesn't actually air on the CW so there's some animated shows that are that tie into some of the the a lot of right they have streaming rights to a lot of other older ninety s cartoons for Nickelodeon and some other things that have their own special in his you can buy a service without having to have cable where you have access to channels on television needless to say when you look at the larger parent company there's a lot of companies that there's a lot of services that to HBO offers as twenty we've seen a lot of these companies for for Warner brothers warning media sometimes have a have a moment to be okay where are we as a company in yeah you have an outside force that comes into your company's GonNa Restructure you know so far I'm just worried I think it's going to have to have a price there's one thing that I we haven't really talked about but I think it's going to help this conversation is but the library is a huge thing that you don't get within the other services down have crunchy roll which specializes in producing animate they own verve while individually these services are creating content if they were part of a larger service they could still create content focused on creating content and focused less on the the back end of things and the business side of things they could just focus on creating content for the service so depends lower tier you know that's where the market is right now I'm worried HBO is going to be on the higher into the market in there already at a disadvantage the name HBO's only me get there get them catalogue of BBC Properties doctor who luther top gear the British version of office dot and all of that stuff is going to be available on Hbo Max Alexa Box and get the content and save yourself some money if you were subscribing to the larger service that is not the direction that seems to be that does not seem to be the direction that Jio Max ever since this announcement back in July so I completely agree with the idea of consolidating things I mean I don't want people lose their jobs either obviously shows that are already existing does as well as original properties but then on top of that there's also direct TV now which just recently changed his name to at and T. TV now the large for the larger platform they could still subscribe to the smaller service for their more niche specific service that they want to get their content from get rid of the the smaller services all you can consolidate them down to the original content can be found on the larger platform and if people don't want to be as I was doing some research I found out that one media also just made a long term deal with BBC studios where after the basically the entire taking at this point so I would say by all means consolidate some of the stuff because there's a lot of content and on top of that just broad content that they already have they've secured streaming rights for the Big Bang Theory and friends which was a huge deal there's a lot of content that they have and they're not that is very high in comparison to everything else that's out there peacock has specifically stated that they will have ad-supported they will have ads it's something you know a tear or support or something insensitive keeping the price down there has been talk at all about Ed support at all within each Dr who you have all of the DC collection all of Doled Warner Media Collection Boomerang and stuff those are all different brands you know I think as well as the future seasons of doctor who after they initially run a BBC America so they're making deals on top of the massive amount of and that's a great property you have going back a few episodes and we talked about Disney in how the bought all these different companies that they bought and they're not holding back and potentially getting more content outside of the realm of what they have as well which is a big deal because you compare that to somebody like Apple TV plus which does I wanna get any outside content it's it's a it's like night and day year that's I didn't know about the doctor who thing I had so many friends seen through the original content that they have already listed specifically for it there's a bunch of shows that they have planned that they've talked about for quite some time but which is the TV side of things one of others produces a massive amount of shows and a lot of people don't realize that one of others is one of the few companies that has that's where people need to start going if I remember correctly the conversation while back where we're talking about Warner Brothers Warner Brothers Day license if you were to add up a lot of the services that they offer if you were paying sixteen seventeen dollars it's a really good price by twenty point out it's still shows on every major network that's out there they have shows on CBS they have shows on NBC they have shows I don't well ABC might be the one that what there will still need to be a reason back when it was a tiered system the idea of a tooth system or you can have these other services you could just tack them on for maybe a couple at the same time when you're going into a service like this the alternative of course is that you no longer can create you can no longer have the content at all now it's not to say you have to stations and then these these channels will pay money to warner brothers for them to have the content and the of the streaming rights for that though when they wrote this contracts then we're thinking about streaming age they weren't thinking about hey you know we're going to we're never owned service and provide this content ourselves you know doled contracts was paying for the distribution

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Hans Tan - The Hustle Of King Panda

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Hans Tan - The Hustle Of King Panda

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If you need US stores around the world to show not our differences that are hustles are very much alike. Now here's here's your host roster bape young welcome to episode fifty seven of the Hustle share. podcast my name is Ron stor. And I'm your host. Episode is powered by pioneer a digital payment platform provides online transfer empowering businesses around the world world to grow globally. We are proud affiliate of the podcast Asia but four we begin. We'd like to remind you that there's podcast adult content of make. Sure they're no. Oh kids when you're listening to this because today we're GONNA be talking to a panda that you're thinking of the warm and fuzzy one. I'm talking about a beast. Panda and his name is hands Zander Tan in these well known as king. Today's going to be one of those episodes. So there's absolutely inspiring because Hanson going to be telling us his life story in how. He started out as a McDonald's employee when he was studying the states. Just to be able to make ends meet. Hans is also going to talk about how he looked for better paying side hustle that eventually led him to become an assistant of a stockbroker that eventually changed his life his perspective of how successful he can be in. This is where it gets interesting. CBS hands is going to talk about how he was able to carve out an amazing career stockbroker in an expert salesman that allowed him to turn thousands of dollars per month. Now it's not all rainbows and butterflies because Heintz is GonNa talk to us about how he lost ninety percent of his life savings when the recession hit the US in how he had to start from scratch again when he moved back to the Philippines because because he didn't have a choice and not just that he's going to tell us how everything became bad to worse when he floated around for five years straight. I try to make ends meet in China recoup everything he lost until he was able to finally bounce back with this business luxury cars Manila in in falso push it further for this new career as the King Panda where his fitness journey has inspired thousands of followers followers across the Internet. So if you're ready to learn the hustle of King Panda. Let's begin this appetizer rate now. Walking the latest episode of the PODCAST. We are with a big man. I'm currently coming my tits at because because I'm scared but dude I have mad respect. What before I introduce? You gotTA play this Shit. Oh gotta keep a real right because we are talking doc into not just if you can hear the music right now. We're talking today with a panda and his name is Hans Zender Tan. What's the proper company because you have to do so many things I know you're thinking Pandora so but what's the proper affiliation that I should come the only two confidence really promote nows luxury? Cars Manila luxury cars Manila reborn performance reborn for me. So let's looks. We'll do a deep dive later. But actually the stood now ZANDER hands right king. Panda what do you. What do we care what they climb up some reason okay Kerry? KP WE'RE WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING TO KP today to discuss a lot of stuff. Because the reason also why I said yesterday because I need your help I'm a fat man. Okay and I used to be an athlete. I used to play Varsity. Ask them all back in high school. I still eat like an athlete but I don't work out like that lead anymore. Put My husband Morales but we'll discuss that K.. Through the coaching on on this one but hands I have a question which we always ask. What your hustle? I Shall Shit you you sell Shit. That's what do you mean by selling shitless found a little bit further on that one. Okay so now. Basically we have luxury cars. And that we're India the Luxury car business. And for some pathetic reason. We just gravitated towards armored vehicles. Armored Vehicles Armored Vehicles Shit you see in marvel movies but the one in marvel movies actually the one in the Marvel Marvel Movie Rouge. There's a little too much of a hoax. Tonio car could survive that type of beating. Yes Eh but so anyway. Do you serve you. You provide people with not just luxury cars with armored luxury cars with talking about the GPS. The the the the big boy cars talking about the landcruisers escapades The navigators got but aside from that. Your Hustle is again you're a fitness icon right icon but you know more of more of a notorious fitness a fitness coach. Is that a proper return to because it's one of those words that I actually hate. I hate being called the coach because I don't think I know enough to actually qualifies a coach really now. I'm not educated. I'm not certified nine you know so anything I anything. Anything I say is usually based on my experience but for some for twenty thousand something people to follow you. There's there's gotta be some sense to what you do and whatnot because you can be a random person talking about a lot of people do that now talk about their opinions and experiences but if twenty thousand people follow you digest your content. You're onto something so you're not just on random dude and again credit credit's due. You know no you can not but before we do that we gotta ride something right because we have this time machine that we owe here and then we're going to write that as as we speak. So we're GONNA ride the hustle share time machine fucking fix so okay so now. We're in the time machine. Let's start back where it all started was were. You always an entrepreneur when you started up. No Okay how did you how did you start. What is your hustle that you recall? Call the first define hustle. The first time I like became an entrepreneur or not really first time you buy something experience real life. Yes the first time I experienced relief. I guess when I Ended up in college. You know I always. I always wanted go to college overseas dot up here. I grew up here went to grade school high school kindergarten here and as soon as you want to go shot up the school we can do that. Don Bosco there which one areo but when I as soon as I graduated from high school it it was really funny because I took all the exams back I went to I went to up up. I didn't even expect a letter while because I know I wasn't ain't GonNa pass okay. But you know the sal. All the schools accepted except that the neo never even bothered to send me a lot because we're getting beat them. I'm in a few days so I'm GonNa give petty about this because this season bre and true blue through yellow yellow sorry. I didn't even get a rejection letter. Piss me off so until homeless. Nothing you got go sitting. It's okay so as soon as I graduated rice schooling and moved to the US and waited for three months before starting college wjr got it. And where did you go to the US because at that matters a lot where you go to especially in the community as a minority depends an Asian coming in. You know you know where it is you. There's there's always discrimination but which which stated you California okay so that's more chill there's more Filipinos they're white people. Exactly that's new Philippines. The reality right so you went there. And what did you take up you college. which is an easy job? Because I've seen so many people here that guesses here before that struggled right off the bat that they. He thought that everything's going to be handed over to them in a silver spoon and then they realized that they get bitch slap right away. I'm like no you gotTa have to work odd jobs and make ends meet and whatnot. How's that for you? Well first of all it was a culture shock because you grew up in a conservative Chinese family got it and then you end up seeing a bunch of half naked women and equality of. That's culture shock. There you go Venice beach. Andrew wasn't doesn't even Venice Beach Quad in school in the cloud quad you got girls from Nebraska ever seen sun before suddenly their son on you know showed off Flash Dome it used to see it on cinemax. So they're yeah. That was a little bit of a struggle right and my my dad told me he said I don't provide everything you need need. That were you with. Your parents moved now. No I was only one we had to how we how so my my my my deal was y y you will provide everything. I need the basics. Anything on top of that you work for. That's scary so he you know he pays the mortgage mortgage knows no relatives or anything. Well I had relatives but you know it wasn't really not an idiot family. No it wasn't. Where did you live? We we had a house. We had a all owns a four bedroom house. They wash it had. Wow I never fucking cleaned anything except my ears just like a true panda is so I was left with cleaning the house. I had to pay for UH `electricity pay for my gas at pay for my food. Everything okay. That's the hustle there. How did you make ends meet? I had an lounge but it was like three hundred bucks a month to. That's not barely enough in California. Everything's expensive the first Chick-fil-a I'm GonNa go to McDonalds. Yeah but it was a remember. It was winter time. And you know you're getting that much money is like Oh cool. I'm going to go buy stuff at pepboys. Pep Boys Are Strip clubs the club. The entrance was fifteen dollars. Yeah and then you get a lap dance for another fifty and then I'm left with what two hundred dollars at least a lap dance. Go Get cinemax okay. So it was wintertime. Those cold you know when you take cushite Yup and it's fifty well thirty five degrees forty degrees in Gali Barron Hi. It's hard to take shit as soon soon as you sit down. It just goes back in loud so I had a heater on. Okay sure enough. You know. I'm enjoying join the heat. I'm having fun and that thing comes out. Natural Right. December twenty ninth comes in the electric. Bill comes down Chieh eh three hundred eighty dollars more than your allowance. I had no fucking glove pay but at least you had a good shit call so I was so afraid to call my dad because my dad's been you know I mean he would have aided but true. I didn't WanNa let me so so I ended up getting a job at McDonalds Donald's first job was mopping the floor. Wow that was called the floor manager Laura CBS They called. It managed literally at a fucking mop shades of Joe Magara here. He had this whole house to or you weren't and Wendy's our fiftieth episode Jewish. Thank God I didn't have to clean toilets because I had no idea how to do. Yeah he that route ten years do and he slept in the in the whole thing in the in the store I did that and then. My uncle opened up a Filipino store and recruited me the best manager in California. No Yeah I got a pay raise right getting I was getting. I think seven dollars an hour McDonald's so he told me He'd pay me fifty one dollar cash Josh. Okay okay if I worked as much how. How long were you because you have to go to school still or how did you start out? No I didn't stop school but I was working about four or five hours. A day should look bad enough to make ends meet and to have the heater during the winter. Forty fifty bucks a day and I ended up becoming a butcher K.. Wow now I know where to arms came from you then meets gotta gotta learn how to meet and then my my junior year one of the One of the alums in school. Where did you go to school in? Esi Okay Wow and one of the alums in school told me Why don't you come work for me? Say Oh I need a need an intern and somebody due to staff and you know he worked for financial firm it was a stockbroker. Wow this is shades of fucking Chris Garner. No wasn't quite that bad but yeah but this is the same conversation they had in pursuit have happened is someone gave him a shot. You know you didn't give me a shot as a broker. He gave me a shot as an assistant to get coffee. and Oh shit to bring his dog to the groomer and but it was twenty bucks an hour. Dick that when I was driving his car half the time. And what was the driving. He was driving at that time it was it was a vet then he upgraded to an s class. So Pat's time I'd take the dog to groom in an s class so it was the best job I've ever had got it. But and then what did you learn in that experience. I because when you get a piece of that life your whole perspective changes or anything Holy Shit this is possible and start asking you building ending a ladder like okay if it's possible. How do I get this from here to there? Well that's exactly what happened. The first he invited me out for Thanksgiving It is at his house. Sprints everybody who was there and he told me he said you know you're graduating in about a year and a half. So what are you going to do with your your life. I said well probably going to go back home to Manila. Wow worked for my dad. And he looked at me and he said that's a fucked up life man he said Don't you WanNa make a life yourself and that's basically when it started. I was just I for some reason when I was working for him. I was stuck in. That you know is just an assistant right and after that Thanksgiving having that Thursday right when I came back to work on that Monday right perspective changed and what was the first thing you did. I sat down with the brokerage started listening to what the fuck to do. What they're doing? I started reading the series seven book. Which is the licensing book about it and in about six months I was on the phone? As an UNDERGRAD. Or were working. uh-huh still going to school. You gotta you gotTa head start just because of that because this is what's impressive and this is I think what would resonate towards your your whole journey later on. Is that a lot of people get thrown challenge. Now there's two options you always do is either whimper field. Will you feel you feel you're going to PD mode. Yeah or you fucking rise up and Tom Lie. I'm down it's all right so that's what you did and that's the other thing as well and this this this is where a lot of people kind of fall out when I realized lyster is that okay. You inspired but the next step is the most important thing. What action do you take in hell consistent? Are you in going through that goal especially if you taste that life right was that so after you've been on the phone what was that I it was. I mean the the phone thing was it was an eye opening experience. Got It okay so these are cold calls. You're doing 'cause he time. We had no Internet leads based on Belfort Style phonebook. Right and he said that other guy his name was Ilan and mostly Jewish guys where a line is on the other side calling on disease. Wow so you start with the ace. Yep So basically all it did was call and make appointments senior brokers wow also is not him loose pitching no it was different per. He was on top of the heap. Got Closer Director Right. It wasn't even closer more basically managed the whole company. The whole office right. Yeah there were brokers all the pitching but all I did was to set up a point. It's what did you master because this will also my first job. I also telemarketer but I was here in. That's how I never met interstates with like two years ago. Twenty twenty nine year old but what I told myself I got A. I got myself an anxious optics wise I looked like a buck with driving. It is again outside but if you myself in sound like I can actually do a fucking podcast right now. You'll you'll be listening to me right. I had to learn that but the type of beating took on a daily basis. I was also fulltime time in college. Full time doing call center work. Ten o'clock seven. My class starts that one. Jeez I only slept for three hours but the type of beating into type type of pressure in the hospital I had to go through mental. It's mental and physical to do it. I only six months three hours of sleep. That's going to take a mental toll on you. I mean physical toll on you but that changed my life respective. The Hustle did respect the discipline. Everything came with it for you during that time. What did you develop Ele- well you learn how to choose whether to Piss or keep calling so half the time I just crank Out The extra fifty calls fifty dials because at the end of the day we had a contest yep every even. I know if I'm supposed to say this but boiler-room ship the Oh that movie really boil because we sold legal stuff right okay. What type of pressure impression right every every Friday we go to this bar and basically Brad I would go all out and that was the only thing that we had to look forward to every single week and you want your name on? Top of that aboard dog eats dolls called the most halls. The most appointments. Yeah and everybody was just gunning for it and nobody was going to the bathroom throw. Nobody was eating. Nobody was you know you're not you're going out and you're not standing up walking around. You didn't care you're probably we had a fucked up kidney too because you yeah it was. You're not drinking water because if you drink too much water you're gonNA go piss and I remember. Chris Gardner did that that infra suit of happiness. He was trying to fucking go through the list. Said what did I did not drink water. Because if I I would lose five minutes of whatever you're lose momentum it's a common thing for for a lot of the brokers because the more calls you made the more context to the more contacts. You made the more appointment should numbers motherfuckers game the end of the day. Yeah so after about a a year I think I got my sheer seven licence bull. How old are you with? This was g well. It took me six years to go through college because graduate. Say Act Twenty Four. She's twenty three. You were done with college knowledge-based time still working okay. Still working so I got my shoe shelvin license and I kind of had to choose between the two right so my dad said okay. You can work. Make sure you finish your college got it. It's always a price. So he allowed me to work. He was okay with it so I had to endure males working eight hours a day. In how much were you making on a ballpark figure that time already. As soon as I got my license. Well what else still making appointments. Yeah making and one hundred dollars per appointment. No foggy layer getting me pay me under buffer appointment. That's how valuable the leads were each were because we knew that if the guy came in with a statement with especially with his wife. Yeah which is the link right right. It's got to pitch the way not the dude. Exactly right. You know the whole thing that ticked me off about the whole movie. Yeah Boiler Room. They should have a pitch a bitch. You WanNa pitch exactly because the bitch makes you out of the money. She mentioned this here in the Philippines. Right right and the. US is the same thing any any. How do you gotTa impress the IMPRESA wife Right so at at that point I think I was making? What about a thousand twelve hundred? So now you can afford to have the heater on the towel and think a good dump server i. I'm Ashley by myself by six. Oh Shit wow so as soon as I got my series seven licence as probably making nine ten grand a month. Holy Shit. That's the me right away. All right. Let's before before he gets away with more money. Let's take a quick break and when we come back let's talk about the journey and how you became king panda but more of that after the rake. Hay Hustler's flers. Let's take a quick break from the episode to talk about a big mistake. I did early in my own hustles startup founder and that's going all in my startup without having any other source of income the you might see. That's weird because we talk about going all in a lot in this podcast but allow me to tell you what exactly happened to me. Early on back in my first startup called party foul. Aw I resigned from my day job thinking that I'm going to get funded when I started winning pitching competitions because I thought I was going to get funded very soon but the reality is took me three years to get funded very broke during that time just because I wanted to go all in. I didn't take any side hustle and the bad thing thing was I was dependent on my startup for my survival while I was trying to grow so I ended up getting a lot of bad deals because that was desperate so in my next startup pitches chat blocked age. I made sure that I'm not going to be deceived mystique so I got into the art of freelance by making enough money on the side to make ends meet but allowed my started flourish and get acquired. It just told months after it up but that wouldn't happen if I didn't get paid on time. And there's one product relied on heavily to get paid easily and it's spe near near see from a lot of hassle because it's the fastest way to get paid especially if you're doing freelancing and cool thing about it is that it goes straight to your bank account. Oh so you don't have to worry about your money getting stuck in wallet somewhere. So whether you're freelancer ECOMMERCE seller digital market or any hustler requires speed of payment. I highly highly recommend the speedier to get your money so register now at European your dot com or download the Pierre APP on the APP store or we will all right. Let's get back to the show inr back we're still with with Hans Time. Yeah Of by back then he was still the Hustler and what I back in the states but now I'm curious what made you come back because that's when you get to that life the food's better bitches were better to D- damn sure right and now if you're in in California weeds weeds legal. It's going to be top notch better but for you to come back and leave everything behind. Go back here. What trigger that I? I had no choice. Oh Two thousand. Seven okay was the Maryland. No I unfortunately can't see the firm. It's the second firm for all you guys are financed BOPs right. Probably we know. Connect the dots right. It's the second financial firm due to to file bankruptcy. Right and at that point I was already working king. I've been working for them for about twelve years twelve years. So you spend twelve years doing this. Yes wow I was L. is one of the head bond traders the firm office in La and Those four of us. Wow and we didn't even know that. The company was filing bankruptcy. Not that far away. And you kept chugging just like it's found out was that was in my office and I one of my one of my traitor's walked in and said hey no so-and-so's on CNBC does that every day. Right now. He's talking about. We're filing bankruptcy today. Wow we're just looking at that company. Stock and about ninety percent of my retirement is in the stock so everybody so did everybody office and we just went. We just saw that stock go. Oh from one hundred ninety four dollars to twelfth. I'm at a loss for words. What I I'd say about seventy percent of my net worth at that time? He lost everything because of the financial crunch the recession I mean the recession wasn't uneven. Thousand the worst. The worst was so we filed bankruptcy and majority to shit that happened. The office had my signature and three of my colleagues signatures guys so since they can't sue the firm anymore they sued us and now paper trail so on you. I spent about two years fighting lawsuits. which wasn't even your fault? Technically but because you're the signatory your head was they. Yeah no choice in. US lobbying you had to chase someone. Someone has to be the fall guy. Somebody has fall so So that's what happened two years fighting off lawsuits and in the end I just gave it up Thousand ahead my stroke you had while this was two thousand eight. I think I was in the office and next thing I knew I was in hospital. What was your lifestyle back? Then there's lifestyle at it was like anything you see out of Illinois to Kabri happy movie. Oh Shit you didn't fuck bitches uh-huh because that's why I only have two favorite movies Rome. While started soon have happiness and over Wall Street Borderland Boardroom. Boiler of yeah majority of the time and it spend with clients if I'm not in the office and lunches brought in we had spread up coffees unlimited bagels. Lodge I mean you know everything was provided right. Yeah And the servings were not cute do do well. It's basically a buffet. Exactly what I want if I came to say you know what I can eat I can eat into fucking Manila's I can do a large x-rays x rays of but when they came fucking went to moving to panda express mother shaped me. I cannot be this this shit I went home with constipation. Should play for like this exactly so so you know I. I was in Vegas about three or four times a month entertaining clients. Wow I never ate at home. mm-hmm wow never saw my wife except if we have appointments appliance and I take her to dinner with me. Every dinner was out. Every lunch was out breakfast. Sometimes I get to spend on. Wow but doesn't life Hundred hour weeks normal shit so when people talk about eighty hour weeks and working overtime like you motherfucker. She had no idea what he had to go through and we enjoyed associated. We loved our jobs right but what were the skills now. This is where I wanted to learn what were the skills you developed over that twelve years man before everything James Shit because this is what sets you up you know okay there might. There might be a setback but what industry. It's instilled into you. Nobody can ever take that away from you. Set up your next comeback right. But what were those skills. If you're going to talk to someone higher than you you better be able to pretend like you're descend level. They will never respect you. A fucking men. You can't exactly when we're talking to. CEO's Gosh you can't be so it was D'Amato service numb sadder. You can't do a monster. They will never respect. Yeah look them in die top. Adopt them that's That's one of the things I really learned right In daily really really developed to do you know the whole thing when when they say act as if not acting it is coming. Yeah you know I remember our. We had a three when when I first joined the firm three week symposium in New York one send you to New York mandatory all expenses paid rubbed the fucking bull run over and so there's this Guy Ira Walker are Walker. Half Jewish Catala sounded like what the name given away Bre uh-huh assistance one producer in the firm. What are the nicest dawn to they just? They just hustle muscle form because his days so fucked up. Wise phone is constantly ringing for divorces. But you know the IT makes about fifteen twenty million a year. Wow that's fucking Kobe. Bryant's today when He. He walked onstage. He walked up on stage. The first thing he said was when you get back to your office yeah you know what you take Your Business Card hard. It says financial advisor scratched off your fucking salesman. That's what you are Dole. All mistakes yourself. So what was the name on. The card was salesman. No no cheese basically get that shit financial off your head your salesperson a fucking mess said the first thing you do is go to Nordstrom's You GotTa Hugo boss shoot the most expensive one day have you you buy that Shit you get a country club membership. You get the most expensive car you your credit can can stretch Yup and by that and you got to be the one guy who raised his hand and said what if I can't afford it and I look sediment says you better fucking work. You know what this reminds me of blend gary can lend Ross as the bobby. CBC always gotTa be closing coffees or fucking closers. That's what it is. And that's that's my Bible to my hustle development in a in a way where I kind of Finesse Nessa. My Way to do shit but it's the same grip in the same. No nonsense no bullshit. Excuse if you want it come get it. And that's what this podcast is all about. Vote because the fucking first word we have here is hustle. We're not here to be fucking cute. You know we're here to hostile and But we don't stop at that here to talk about. How are we going to share it for exactly so all the fucking hustle is out there? Listen to this can come in on a Monday or whatever fucking gone and remind. I'm fucking East Yup. I need to hustle correct. Get your mind right but you know going back like you said you know what made me come back. Yeah because I had no choice so everything was shit. You had a wife took everything patiently. My wife at that point in time after after everything folded gave back my license. Because that's pretty much what what they wanted. Yeah A Hedge Fund was trying to hire me from New York and we flew to New York and My wife should no. You're not so we're going back your wife's Filipina my wife and I and we met in the US and she he said No. You're not going back there. How did that feel? And then now you're back to zero and I said With a stroke. Fuck do well. It was a mild stroke. A stroke is a stroke. That's why she didn't want me to go back to that. Industry got it because she said the stress overwhelming at that point in time there I know light at the end of the tunnel and the financial crisis are so brian but it was so it was so it was so bad everything was was like Armageddon. Get Cluster fought when you see the Dow retrenching seven hundred points every day. Oh my God you know and Clive and calling you and by the way they don't even own in stock but you still have to stress true so she didn't want me to go through so came back here and tried to figure out. How is that like now when you came back and then all you all you knew for twelve years was hustle? You or your own guy now. Came back APP with a clean. Slate fuck man. It was the most humbling experience I've ever had to go through zero. Hello you had to go back and really grind and basically floating for five years. Wow five years. They didn't know whether you know I was living with my parents because my my parents pretty much told me you know live with us at a little bit of savings left. Yeah but but still. It wasn't what I was used to. Yeah and after about six months of living with my parents and I couldn't take it anymore. Yeah not because I didn't like it's because you're a grown man. Let me true true. So I ended up lisi place Kinda moved out and There were months. I didn't know where the rent money was going to come from Shit. I didn't know groceries now. I mean there's money there but I'm like you know right. He's GonNa come from that time I had we opened up a BPL business. And I basically sank all my investment. All my money left into a web design company. Okay and then this fucking Shit. What's that company name? That the shifted gives website for free. Oh wicks dammit I swear to God if I if I see that confound you gotTa Hide Someone's out coming for you mother for our blood wick so lasted about a year a year and a half and it was basically died. Fuck what am I going to do next. Yeah but here's the thing though I mean here's my perspective active on that so many do might my current Hustle Chat Bot age right so I put up this old shot the company their tools that allows you to create a chat from scratch chap. You'll many chat. There's so many of them even teach you how to but eventually what I realized. Is that similar to two websites that we the way. The reason why people outsource creating websites still now because the camp this settle with the status quo which is the sheet. They asked whatever she that. You can create another website if you're not blessed with a with a creativity correct so you still look for the experts because people imagine what it can possibly be. They passed it onto something else but they always need the experts to be that. So that's that's kind of where I made my book like all right. Make your chat bought. Okay Eventually Leo. Come back to me anyway. Asking me for help. And that's that's where we at because at the end of advocate creating chat bots and we actually supported that he create your own but when you hit a system something blocked come back to me I got you there. The problem was you had a good mindset. I didn't else floating loading around for five years. Yeah I still couldn't accept the fact that I was right here right here. Yeah and for five years I mean yeah I had a business. Is this your had people. Yeah had you know but my my my heart was an inuit. It wasn't in and everybody was telling me thank you. Dad added in the car business. You grew you helped him build it. Go work for him. I- my pride wouldn't let me. What was the turning point? Just now your your your main hustle is luxury cars. How did you swallow that up in the eventually made it worthwhile and had that turning point and turned the corner to direct trajectory? I was actually living in in Rockville at a time and and had enough balls to fucking Lisa place in Rockwell for one hundred twenty grand a month and right. 'CAUSE y'all like fuck man. Why did this before you know? I'm GONNA handle it again. You have a web design company and suddenly fucking weeks comes out some like shit chant. What am I gonNa do now right so I was in the elevator and I overheard this what you believe it in elevators in Rockwell? They have signal. The northern sky was toil. This dog is talking to spell. Okay okay about buying a car. Wow I overheard it okay. So I was supposed to get out on the tenth floor right and he didn't go out so fucking wait it so He got out on the fifteenth floor. I think the elevator open. I went out with him. TAP them into shoulder I said yeah. Hey My name is shown. I overheard you're looking for this car. He was looking for an S. S. L. K.. For five hundred time what is a five hundred s those are the two normal shady's a coup up top. It's a roadster Mr there you go and is going to give it just wipers for her birthday. Oh talking God are you kidding me. I'm like I have one right now now but it's red I heard you're looking for white one. And he said let me take a look at it so I when that people can fucking hey I got I got a roadster I got an. So backyard slick shit. That's crazy apparently one of the head guys for some multinational the national firm show. I just heard enough balls to jazz. Walk up to him and not lose. Nothing lose you could you. You have a hundred twenty became rent so I went back to my condo and picked up the phone. Call my dad I said how. How much do you want for that? That S L we have to showroom says so he gives me a price and I said if I sell at this price can get this and he said yeah get it done so the next day drove to the showroom picked up. DSL THOSE ESL drove DSL to the to the condo like org parked it in my parking spot. They're not on the door and he saw the car his wife happened to be there. Also no wife knew what no one can know. Oh Shit wife was there and he said honey. I'm I'm surprised for you so my garage and the wife loved the car bomb again pitch to the Fitch covering team for me row. So if we're going to quote you that's what we're GONNA put pitch to the beach the in which a female anatomical description of of hey that will be a quotable already so but my director. That's that you need to get if you're listening is already spread pitched. It's so I bought the car dude. Paid Cash Yep and got my first commission and I'm like fuck I can do this. Yeah so that's tells a turning point in my life got it. And how long has it been now since that day. Those two thousand eleven to eight years. How how do you now take control some British? You're now you're in charge or not not really my dad's still my dad will never retire. Just seventy and he keeps saying that he's going to kind of you know he's a John. Go Away but in the car business right right right arrest addresses sold. But he'll never retire horse shows. It's ingrained in his blood so so I started In in two thousand thirteen I started a company called luxury cars. Manila added and the only reason why I started that company is because I wanted to keyword. Ah because it's a search. Yeah the shit that I learned in the In the web business there so now we're actually INC luxury. Cars Manila is illegitimate Philippine company. Check it out so being shown by the way all the links that you're GONNA say here we'll going to be an insurance and HUSTLERS SHARE DOT com. So Yeah we've been showing cars showing armored vehicles. Nice okay now. There's this other part of your life that's really prominent that again. Twenty thousand likes flexing on him. How did the fitness journey? Because this is due when you're in great shape but that has to be turning what I'm thirty one. I've always wanted to like yeah and what I want to work out. I tried doing it last year. And then this podcast. The thing came out again. Doing Shakespeare says exactly now. I'm just telling me for exactly so wait the bitch out of me. How did you start this fitness? Two Thousand Two thousand ten okay at a at a very good friend from high school. You're the guy was like three hundred ten pounds back in high school. Wow but he also moved to the US in moving back here. I found out that he was moving back. Oh Oh never offered for eighteen years I lived in the US. I never even stolen so we hooked up when he came back here. How well and I didn't know that he was heavy into the fitness industry in the US? Wow he owned the GM and you still three hundred ten pounds though no us. How much inches you? We already draw like a wrestler. Yeah well Teesta so in two thousand ten Dan. He came to Manila Hilo. He came to Manila and we met at starbucks greenbelt. Soon as I walked in the doorman he looked at me. And he's Jaya's dropped because any said these exact words Vadim. Don't stop stop. What you're doing you're gonna live past forty men? He said you look like you're about to die. which was true? I was three hundred ten pounds. What my blood pressure at that time was one ninety over one hundred constantly hypertension? My cholesterol was Six twenty sugar. My triglycerides fide ten. I know these numbers at heart because I still have the the blood the test and he said you know we haven't seen each other for so long and I WANNA continue to get to know you again. I don't want you to drop dead screw so he basically coaching said do this do that. And I made every fucking mistake in the book you know I did the fucking egg dye made you fart all day. Did the whole. Yeah Tuna canned tuna diet and right and if I had to see brown rice again Maryland kill someone brown rice and tuna six meals a day. I mean if you didn't get constipation from that that's what I was planning on eating going to fitness. WanNa WanNA watch the word. But let's talk about that more when we come back as talk about that whole the nearest fitness journey. And how you're able to also monetize that and also real the brander render that but the Sagamore after the high hustler is. This is the eavesdrop. My Name's Franchesca. I'm Jelly says Delamarre are we are inviting you. I know our voices just just came out of nowhere. But we're inviting you to check out the eavesdrop podcast. We are part of the podcast network and you know if you like what you hear and learn on Hustle share. You just pick up a thing or two when you listen to the eavesdrop podcast business though. Yeah let Ron stir take care of that all all the window love. 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Sometimes if my friends listening now she'd probably be told you you fucking Adobo whom by an I love to eat man to walk in a how can I give this up and not gain weight back in high school. And Gosh Dude. I can eat whatever I can feel it a whole pizza all by myself and I'll be fleet. Yes so again I still eat at like one now but you know it won't come out. This accumulates in the wrong parts of my body and gives me like Yo can touch. You're like I don't in have teddy's right. What the fuck about but now? Let's talk about this so you started working out. How obsessed were you out of this and how did it become become a proper brand and whatnot? The obsession came about when I started to see results. I mean from three hundred ten and I dropped down to about one ninety. What in about a year and a half? It was the wrong diet wrong long. Everything I'd basically Cardio I did. I did everything wrong by it. Worked got down to one ninety but it was wrong wrong you say. Why was it wrong? I started using Stuff got it started using steroids. All right well. It wasn't steroids. Well Wynstrol is that it was like the the white stuff that's that's water-based. Yeah basically it speeds up your metabolism using clan which is an asthma medication Shan't but the side effect is basically speeds up your metabolism from a cellular level. WHOA so it's an all this all these things I've learned along the way I didn't like the way it looked? I looked haggard. Look tired but I was stand. Everybody is like Ooh do but but I keep telling everybody it's wrong. It's wrong but everybody everybody was like fuck you know. That's that's amazing. How did you feel philly shipment? Every day you felt like you got a fever is bad so two thousand thirteen no idea I decided. I wanted to go into bodybuilding because I didn't like the way I looked like the way I feel and I saw these. Buff guys and bodybuilding bodybuilding magazines. So you didn't have muscle mass but you're thin. I mean muscle period muscle. I was skinny as I saw your picture on instagram. Um Your oil on you well. That's different that's yes. That was a competition got it so I decided I wanted to join a well. I I wanted to go into bodybuilding but I didn't know if I want to compete because I didn't know if I had the balls to actually wear that little saying staying up. Yeah Yeah actually have my parents. Maybe maybe they'd freaking disown me or something. Yeah if they haven't yet. It wasn't a bad as you thought it's on instagram. Show the I know what you're in the nine nine take it out. It's a scroll down like Oh shit. That's up dude. We're talking about right there so I hired a which was the biggest mistake I've ever done in hindsight but I heard a coach. It was champion bodybuilder. Town mentioned names but he basically did. Did everything wrong to wow injected a bunch of stuff in me. I had no clue. You know when you hire when you hire a coach you basically entrust everything with the person especially when you're paying fifteen grandma. Why traveling fucking San Juan to Gig every day some fine with that type of traffic so in two thousand fifteen? I joined my first bodybuilding competition. I place I know wage range but by doing it wrong again. How can well? I two months before the competition. He had me take insulin. Why would no carbs? Well his explanation was it would deepen cuts well. We all know from science and from our relatives. Why diabetic right the reason why you take? Insulin is because you're consuming carbs yep so basically if you don't consume carbs you become hypoglycemic so two months before the competition. I was told to use x awesome mount going up in dosage every five days and on the twentieth day I basically went into shock and I was about to go into a coma. What at my own house with my wife? Not having no idea what was going on. Shane Shame I had enough. I had enough juice in me due to to message a bunch of bodybuilding friends and told me do not fucking George Sweep because if you sleep you wake up so I was going to hypoglycemic shock at that time. They told me they told me you know. Take some carbs so like yeah but I'm too much away from competing. They're like yeah. You're five minutes so oh I basically went downstairs consumed a whole loaf of bread. Yeah and the next day. My Wife confronted the Asshole and uh he even said why did he take insulin without carbs. Sixteen that's why why so. After that day I decided decided to hire coach from the. US got it. And what was the difference between coaching with a again a proper professionals from the US who probably put in a little bit more foundation in and do professionalism. And what's how do you know it's a pro and how it's not a pro first of all they'll never butter borrow money from you guys on it. The advanced too much shit okay. That's aside They never have any conflicts of interest at it like for example if they ask you to take a certain thing. Don't ever sell it to you. They're not the same supplant. You don't get high on your own okay so you know Although I kinda tribute pardon my my success to my win in two thousand fifteen with this could share data could share is a term. I coin for coaches. Who have no fucking idea what they're doing got it so although majority of the success was from my? US coach actually passed away about six months ago in the US. But that's when it started and it really ingrained in me that the fact that there's a a lot of people here who are there to do other people and that's a hustle hustle man. It's you know. So you're you're when you're when you're when you're a coach you have your you have your client's life in your hands. Because the reason why they came to you because of vulnerable you know either. They got bullied as a kid. Because they're fat or or they got or the boyfriend left them for some hot chick chick because they're fat in the coming to you because they want to change and now you take somebody's life and you play with it you don't and it's something that's extremely dear to me because it happened to me. Yeah I was vulnerable so I listened to this fucker and he basically took advantage. And I don't want that to ever happen to anyone data so you know when they competed. In Two Thousand Fifteen I was known as swollen panned at swollen Handa. The whole idea of swollen pan is because one of my one of my idols is is Jay Cutler Guy. He's a pro bodybuilder in the US that followed him ever since and he has a brand called swale. Monkey Wall Mongi. Gillespie unlike. If I'M GONNA compete I gotTA figure out something to market myself. So I'm like I'm Chinese Asian Asian. Fuck right so as it's panda ahead. Then after the competition Asian people started walking up to me and ask me. Do you have a shirt for sale. Only know I will delete coming yes else after two weeks. I came out with a logo and a bunch of shirts. Wow and that's when swollen panda became kind of a movement correct and now it's not no longer just a move proper community with a lot of people that go in. How did you grow that into a proper? This is is because the same way you develop. That brand new that movement per se is the same way I also did Hustler share from the yet goal. I knew I was being forward but in order to get this content out. Somebody's gotTa pay the bills. Eventually when Shit hits the fan and nobody's helping helping me do this in terms of paying the bills or at least making ends meet. I'M GONNA lose steam and I'm not GonNa do this for it right. Somebody's fast to be monetary. Gary it has to become a business. What did you do to make that happen? Well initially. Yeah until now. Leonard Attest to that It's it's still a negative. Keri got a majority of the stuff it's luxury cars mellow funding. The whole thing got it but we decided to open up Reborn performance got it. which is soup lament line? And the reason why I came out with it is because I never found a fat burner that actually works well. Wow and most of the fact Burgers I. I've tried. Always gave me Palpitations A. Hey so it took me three years to develop this product alongside elaborate the US And I was. FDA approved Asu while it's FDA approved a new Alexia there's no FDA US when it comes to supplements right but it's a GNP certified lab. There you go so we are in the process of FDA approval. Well here data just expensive by the way expensive but it's worth it of course It took I was a guinea pig. Basically for four for Three years right sleepless nights because they put too much caffeine in. It's your turn all those. Yeah so we came out with this product and it basically is the flagship product for one performance. we're still in the negative but that the line will eventually get you through but the thing that I wanted I'm very interested is because you now are a person of influence for people to gravitate. How did you now put your content out talk about the stuff that you care about and whatnot if you check it out again it's at King Pandan nine nine nine check it out I'm not bullshitting you as we speak speak so check it out and see? There's a lot of content that university through a lot of people. How were you able to build that? How would you able to build the influence that you have have to get people to listen because people love to talk? But it's different when you can get people to listen and second to take action action right. How were you able to do that? Tell the truth man. Tell the fucking truth people. Unfortunately here the Philippines the still like to hear bullshit and I think it's it's it's it's our mentality but what I've found is if you tell them the truth the right people will follow true. You know I don't have a million followers and I don't want to but the followers that I have the people that listen ars one stood I value the most because they give me feedback. You know when I say something and they don't like it. Come back to me and tell me I don't like it because I didn't understand this. And then you tune you retool retool until such time that I've gotten I've gotten to flow got it. What what what kept you going because again contrary especially with Clinton it's easy to start uh-huh consistent? I mean again. A lot of this are alive. Your previous hostels will always contribute whatever you put your your heart into. I'm a firm believer that because it becomes a discipline right. It's ingrained with you but for you to keep going and this has been going on for a while now. What kept you going the haters? Okay what are the haters because this is what is an acronym and do this who they hate us back Jack. WHO WHO? Who are these MO- phones? Well you know it's not just I don't really hate them. Get because when you hate someone when you don't even you'll delete them from your life right right and I can't hate my heaters because if it's not for them my content wouldn't go out correct for some pathetic reason reason they're the ones who shared the most. Wow they shared they talk shit about it but people are not stupid. Yep You know when they see good good content content. They see something worthwhile listening to the listen to it so my biggest fans are actually the haters. Yes some actually doing doing it for that guy dead. I truly believe that the reason why because ninety nine percent of these people don't even I know who I am and I don't even know who they are so my whole analogy to that is how can you hate someone you don't know right. And he did you define haters having anger towards everyone. Achieving success the crabs. These are the people I mean when people will always see the Oh shit okay. We will if you're in the middle of a level behind me but if you starting to break through stolley different ballgame. I'm GonNa Fuck Lock you up. Shouldn't be the case you know. That's a little reason why we as as a country. Sometimes we stalled. Yeah you know it's the mentality -ality whenever I see someone with a new car or a new house or somebody flashing. They're blaming fuck man he must have done something right. Yeah unless you unless you stole it or something but asked if he stole it still hustle but that there were values I use comes in values but when you see someone doing well the first when I see someone doing well the first thing I want to do is Detroit. Find out about the person. What did he do that missing? I have to be missing something if I'm not there right so it's something that that you need to learn but unfortunately a lot of us here don't have that mentality and that's what I'm trying to convey with my content content is. You don't have to stay at your level you know if you see someone higher than you you I need to look at that and say Fuck Dude. I'm GonNa see you up there correct. I'm not I'm not going to stay down here in Bhopal Day and say oh I'm bored. Yeah and they say they always say that comparison is the thief of joy. But you'll you have. You're in charge of your own joy compares is. What's going to get your ass off that couch? Ouch that's what I mean right. And most people say that comparison is evil. Because you're comparing yourself to others if you run your own race in the ship which is nothing bad. There's nothing bad with that right away but if you feel bad about yourself looking looking at somebody excel and what he's doing then it's up to you. How you WANNA react and motivate yourself to achieve the same result exactly and I think that's that's the secret to anybody success? I mean we all have our own process. We all have our own ways of doing things but you know looking up to someone is never a bad thing. Yeah depending on how you use it. And he was what other people I guess and this is what you've done and I kinda did too when I was. I did as well when I was younger. I was willing to be someone else's bitch because help the helped you. How humble you did that you the discipline and you walk through the ropes illiteracy the grind of how they do it? How was somebody else's bid for a good year to no compensation at all but that got taught me sales he got into all these opportunities and that also opened up the same mindset that you've got to be the man hours of raw twenty year old our shocking the CEO's? And whatever. But I was I never. That's why all my companies the first rule is never a call any anybody Ma'am or sir. Nicholas you fucking put yourself lower than that person automatically you shitting yourself your lower your chances of winning but here are you college. We call it first name basis. Like wow who this guy calling my boss first name basis right. But that's what it is and I I totally agree with with what you said earlier. You start calling them you start putting them in pedestal. They'll ever buy for exactly. The only by live from people weren't a level that's the way it works. Yup and then you have to back it up with action packed up all right talk. Big fucking complete big Bro. That's it as one of my one of my buddies From he's from Wichita Kansas. You always tells me she wanted to play with the big boys. You've got to be able to piss tall grass there. You go with heaps that. The lives their piece on the hips go. That's all right before we piss on the other labs. Let's help you paid for it now and what it is. I have a question in terms of influence. We're Tom outsailed. This is the whole topic of this whole show. How do you develop influence because the main core of life which I believe in this is hammered down to me it is all about? You're selling your ideas yourself as a person and whatnot. Whatever it is you do in life you're always selling so remove the notion that selling evil but because you're always convicting someone to do something whatever it is sex tonight or whatever like gritting my wife? Let's have sex tonight then. What you're hey you're selling your right but how are you able to influence people positive? Then you'd get ashes integrity. I think you gotTa Oughta Integrity. I mean there are times that you're GONNA lose money on the deal but you can sell it to another client for higher price got but you already agreed to this client at this price and this other client's willing to cash. Yeah you sell it to the guy who's his willing to pay less because you said yes yup and don't don't beaten switch and then I see a lot of many of them doing that. It's addict move reputation. Nothing pays for it here. But if used if you've already shook a man's hand you don't be like I'll change main rotor into certain did to deal of the game. Because what do you do now will always there's always a paper trail and there's always gonna be the past behaviors always going to be determined of future future decisions and whatnot. Okay next question how do you monetize. It is your passion. Because you're here now you're very passionate about what it is but a lot of people will always have that dilemma. They yet but this is my passion. I don't WanNA monetize it. Is it because it's my passion. I don't WanNa have to think like it's a business and you know as a salesman you always see the money and everything right but how how you then able not monetize that that in a way where it's healthy procedures. That's people crave jaundice shit a lot. Well initially I never saw AWW monetize it. What when the bills start coming? Yeah I type Shit Right. Exactly the only reason why you need to monetize because you can't sustain it if you don't you know passion can be great if you're somebody like Bill Gates in there but if you don't have that type of animal if you don't have that type of deep pockets you got it got come for something you know. It's not a bad thing A lot of people say oh we have this being in say. So cures cures correct. There's a reason why so you got to monetize absolutely last few questions in any hustler. Slur whatever it is that we especially when we we knew fall down re stumble. You have to have the right people around you. How do you know that you don't have the co-chair Aeros and other guys always taken manage? How do you surround yourself with the right people how do you how do you identify them as the right people to help you pick yourself back up? You can't until you down there when you're down there that's when you find out who they are and you keep close you make another mistake you shake off the leaves again. You keep the ones who stay you. Just keep pruning and pruning pruning. The only time you're gonNA tell is when you're underground. Shit hits the biggest Yup and ninety eighty percent of them. They see you on the ground gonNA kick you on the curb correct and it's happened. It's happened to me. I mean it's happened to me when I was in the US. It's happened to me who knows here multiple times people you support. It ended a backstabbing way of life. Man But again again now from a emotional standpoint and this is where it gets deep. Now how did he yourself from from just caving in and how how do you keep pushing because through all of this hustle. This comes from within. How do you keep pushing forward? How do you motivate yourself soft because you cannot see ammon org today just because I am seeing someone you know it has there has to be bigger than that it has to come from within its inertia right right? So how did you do that. And what's your advice for. People were down in the dumps feel like new stock or wherever the fuck that they feel like. It's a hopeless place because you've come come out multiple times from really shit fucked up places but you've eventually beaten those demons. How what's your advice for? This always go back to why why you did it. Always it will never lead you wrong got it you know. That's why I always tell people if you're starting off with the wrong reasons they'll never be able to sustain it because you're gonNA need that backstop. Yeah so last question. What's the best advice you've ever gotten? From this whole this whole journey and whole ups and downs ebbs and flows. Close that you have to go through. There's always through each lesson. Of course that we that leaves an indelible Mark Das. But every once in a while we've come through great words that stick to us for life. What's the best advice you've gotten through this whole journey for you? Trust your gut the big guys very. Hopefully it's more now. It's not carbs. Trusted guy what do you mean by frustrated intuition and whatnot you know all of us have biases in our biases basically shaped by our childhood experiences. If you trust your gut you will never go wrong. Your decision Shishkin might be wrong but the principle that guided your decision will always be right got because it's cheap you yep so oh my boss actually told me that Yep so and it's never led me a stray although there are times like you said you know you deep down like I wanna just quit but you just keep moving on absolutely all all right hands. Thank you very much for again Being able to share douse this an inventor areas so refreshing. We didn't have to talk about packing all these other things. The Hustle was pure in what we let you. Go invite over. People do how can follow in. Check the stuff that you're doing doing a lot of stuff but dude is gold. I love it. So how do they check you up guys. Thanks very much for listening to US share. Please support this Scrape by Ron. Thank you guys is GonNa Follow guys and girls follow me on the OPE facebook. Also Graham dependent I nine till such time that the person who owns a restaurant down okay. They're already hunting down the founder of weeks. Let that guy go. I swear to God man. I'm going to pick them up man ED. Hey that's US hustle eventually everything Accessible for those people don't want it to go. I'm still pissed off. If you know the guy give him a heads up so much out for him all right. Yeah I'll give you a call there. You go all right guys before we let hands you'll again. Don't forget to give awesome love if you love this episode. Follow US whatever podcast APP. Did you listening to if you listen to any on. Do you think didn't make sense. You don't worry we got you're back. It's an hostage DOT com. Check the show notes for this episode. And don't forget to join our community. It's not like King community but hey we got hostiles in the game so check out the hustle shirt from unity and peace. And don't forget to message us on checkbook on our check brought by H. M. Dot e slash hustler. Fleischer again Hans. Thank you very much. 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Bloodsport With Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano, and Jason Concepcion

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It has never been what i owe westerner you argonne japanese. I can do it now. For the first time the true story of us can be revealed or support sensation on station with john clot blood sports story of the ultimate champion the jason it gets around us here i would say this is one of five favorite movies ever. Absolutely you have a poster enough. I have a i have a framed photo. Listen i bought a poster off off of amazon was fifteen dollars that ceiling and then i got it framed four hundred dollars and i absolutely it was like you got a professional sure i will pay four hundred dollars to frame and matt this poster. I also have an autographed picture. Fra strongly support and a framed picture of john claude van damme from it was the oddity autograph as chung leers as balloon. I scribbled on their somebody mailed to my office and i fell in love with it. Wow that's something the jason. How many times since nineteen eighty eight have you been flicking channels and stumbled over at least thirty minutes cinemax classic. Yes cinemax max action classic. I feel like as a person who would stay up late at night. I feel like you'd see this two to three times a month between the hours of eleven and two to a._m. On cinemax on a random friday night i wrote in two thousand fourteen. What's the record for most times watching blood sport even though it's not even showing a movie network worked but a local network where they keep interrupting with bad commercials that's really became its legacy about ten years ago and they would just pop on spike good channel no feeling ashes yet they. There's going to be commercials soon. I already own this on d._v._d. Or blu ray avenue watching and you're sitting through the spike commercials for movie you have on d._v._d. Sometimes the commercials make it better and i don't know how that works sometimes they do. Do you just like you get to be excited about a thing and i don't know why works that way is i. If you get a junior bacon cheeseburger from wendy's it comes with tomato on it already. I hate tomatoes yeah but i order with tomatoes. I don't know why it's better it makes you appreciate the part of the burger. You actually like i think that's what it is. Do they make movies like this anymore. More jason this specific type of movie no they don't make a martial arts action movies starring <hes> we uh-huh belgians anymore <hes> they don't. They don't really make this kind of movie anymore. Certainly not not for feels like not. I like an american market well the thing that strikes me as i watched it for the one hundred thirty seven time two nights ago they feel like they're actually fighting in every scene and i just come up from seeing hobson shah <hes> which hobson shaw's the classic it carefully wires punch punch turned punch punch. Everything's like this and buds part on like. Did that guy actually die. When chung lung cheung is he really dead is there. Did anybody write about him like i have no idea what happened. Those guys did the one guy break his leg. How much of it was israel. Israel the broken leg. You sign up for it. They said we have you got to let bowl okay on your now. They didn't have stuntman for the movie. No that was like not thing and i know the one guy really really wait. Are you mess with me now. 'cause i gotta. I gotta talk about one scene where i think there's a stuntman but i'll let you continue. They're the one part in the movie win. John damn elbows the guy in the mouth and knox's tooth out like that really happened yeah and he really got hurt. Yes situation but yeah. There were no no no stumped. They were just going for it so when when frank is running from <hes> rawlins and helmer writer and they fall into the disgusting sting waters like around hong kong i will swear to you that is not from behind. That's not force worker it can't it's i feel like i don't care who you get to do this but i'm not getting in the toxic water. That's why i ended up winning an oscar. I studied that he got his water and that's why he got an oscar. Skirt would've been nominated for this movie. Yeah those worse than leo sleeping inside the bear in the revenue like revenue. I i don't understand why they don't do this anymore. And maybe it's just the degree of difficulty is too high. Maybe you do we're going to get into it but they're like some of the greatest fighters of this era because you had in victory. The soccer movie sliced alone. They ended up using some of the greatest soccer players from the early eighties in that movie and sly stallone of michael caine which is one of the funny things about added in this movie. They're really getting some of the best guys and then <hes> the guy plays chung lease the enter. The dragon guy and there's just a level of this is not like hey the rock. We're gonna teach you some moves. Lizard dudes have been fighting since they were like nine. I can't speak for vandam. I don't know he started. I know we started. This splits probably early early when he was born. They just sat him down in the splits automatically. There's so much eleven this movie and we're going to get through all of it and i just want to get to the categories but it's a montage movie ultimately and i feel like that's what we're missing now as we head toward the end of this decade is the art of the montages just out again. Hobson shah have a montage in it. They do have a montage and it's fun and it's like guess what i'm always gonna and enjoy a montage like karate kid point when he knocks out that first kid winston art c._n._n. And there's you're the best daniel and then sunday forever. I would watch a whole movie. That was just a montage right right. You know what else is great about that that kind of style structure. This movie's a brisk minute minute hour thirty two minutes. It's it's brisk. It's brisk it just flies by and hobson shaw's like how long has moved two three and a half hour. No come on now but it's like it's a long it's too long yeah. They needed forty minutes to set up the fact that these guys weren't going to get along but they had bloodsport. It's like there's a tournament people die. Let's go here we go. They're cleaning the stadium. They're wiping the blood off making them matt nice and clean all right. Let's talk about von dame because when i did my action here championship belt. I don't think i ever gave him. The belt occupies is how you pronounce the two don van dam dam dam dam me too but that's just outvoted two to one so i think he says dom that's okay he. He also says weird shit so so his i._m._d._b. He goes here blood sport black eagle and cyborg and your thoughts on those in nineteen eighty nine thumbs up black eagle was he was buried kickboxer. Love kickboxer really good super hardcore though lionheart death warrant double impact at some point it just became a joke what the even the titles of the van dyke movie van damme van damme universal soldiers nowhere to run universal soldiers the best split you think so which one is which one do you like. I like it. I actually category should we hold giambi the whole let's hope but then around like ninety three range he kind of went up a level and i thought has acting actually got better too but he has gotten better every year hard tat hard target time cop street fighter and then my favorite one other and this one sudden death <hes>. I've really liked sudden-death. It's i argued the hockey movie. There's long hockey scenes but he ends up playing goalie. <hes> which is in just the incredible leap of faith of any nineties action movie. Maybe he puts on the equipment and plays goal goes for it in a stanley cup came for the penguins huge. It's being televised they. They don't care but <hes> but yeah at some point. He just kind of became poor. Man's schwarzenegger at is that fair. I have ranked in the pantheon well. I think if we're just doing a personal preference number one for me. He's he's an arnold over arnold definitely really really. I'm shocked the better movies lino predator <hes> like in running man. He's his. You can't argue his i._m._d._b. Page he's. He's got the the better movies but we're talking about. We're gonna make a move some guys in it. Who do you wanna see. I always want van damme over over everybody or vonda and <hes> or avendano wendy and one of them either one of them. Give me either one but i think he's just a little bit cooler. I think he's he's definitely more handsome which is like. I like that part. <hes> i just feel more drawn to him. He occupies the same plays in the late eighties early nineties that chuck norris had before him where it's like all right we have enough money for one actor when star and the rest of the movie really doesn't matter and you kinda know the beats of time and you you can put him on a poster and people will come and that was the case whether it was people going to theater renting the movie for eight years yeah so the dennis rodman movie kinda started the flip. That was probably a mistake. I and i really like about him that he's a fighter schwarzenegger's. Not a fighter schwarzenegger's. Just gonna fucking big. That's what i was trying to think what made me we love vindamme. It's there was kind of a wow factor with some of his stuff where yes stallone schwartzenegger stolen iraqi for gas s. when he's doing some of the training staff for jesus. Stallone is above schwarzenegger to for yeah but van dam like that scene when he's in the rope doing the split his mentors like when he's when he's between the chairs. You're just like what the hell hell yeah. You've never seen some of this stuff. It's really incredible and he really came along at a time to when it was like that kind of really incredibly credibly a muscular super physique kind of action star was kind of getting pushed aside because of the die hard movement you know the normal more guy kind of action star like christian slater and broken arrow show. That's a good call. There's like if you're not ready for like bruce willis to be your action hero yeah try disc smaller stallone right and he really he he thrived in that era <hes> like he really came up as at the same time as like seagal who seagal is just so ground bound and like stationary legend. He's his moves are all like a guy comes at him and he spins him around but he never moves his legs. Never removed van damme's flying all over the place doing splits. He's rolling. He's jumping up in the area jumping over the wrath. Very there's a lot to watch. I always felt like seagal dwight howard of action. Here's can you explain this week kind of stiff. He was going to get the twenty and fifty yeah. I don't know if you could win the title with them but i could definitely make the finals with them but at least fight van damme. I just feel like van damme's killing him yeah. The smart thing that he did was he was like oh you know what i should do. I'm going to be the guy who breaks your arm. I'm gonna break your arm. That's that'll be me and that's all he did for right whole career. I'm gonna break your arm or i'm gonna flip you into like a soda machine yeah he. He was just moving his hands a bunch and you thought he was doing some shit rashes doing this while you're standing in front of like he's about to siphon and then grampian abune snap your arm i think from an unintentional comedy standpoint you could make real strong cases for either kind of the bird magic of unintentional communist and ladies early nineties seagal had the fucking ridiculous ponytail out anthony tell us dressing in the karate robes and just really china china in this league load thing and poor van damme just could enact it got better as it went along but in blood sport. You're watching a. going. Do one more take director's. Cut you gotta gotta. You know that it's an issue when donald gabe is won't read ogre rowley upset and they're going to get more run. He's a movie read the movie if we to tie this back to swagger i felt the same way when you watch <hes> escape plan and it's worse than ignorance alone. Finally yes stallone is like actually acting in schwarzenegger's. There's just a fucking cardboard cutout in his mouth is moving ray same thing here but yeah give give is gated during a video game. Wait a minute hold on is he. Is he doing this. Let's into the categories because we have too much to discuss. <hes> budget of around two million made sixty five somehow dan sixty five billion dollars yeah solid. I feel like that two million is like inflated like a lot of that went into like shady pockets. I feel like when they filmed that in. I five million two million three million under the table. It made sixty five million. It's i can't imagine how much it's made in cable residuals and stuff the fight that this is a movie one hundred million dollar movie. This in roadhouse have been on for thirty years. Yes unabated roadhouse design right now so i'm like cinemax wants wants just will never end when tale these movies from the late eighties they just three decade long runs <hes> all right. We'll take a break. We'll get to the categories. 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I wrote down all these things i liked and bolo young young young young young bolo unions chongli where he gets you know in movie credits for the last guy. It's like a little extra special. They gave him that little shine nine. They show the different guys warming up and chang lease just kicking giant icebox. Yes you're ready yeah. Like how long does it take to get a giant ice block over and hang it like two hours. Seven hours chiles a boom boom boom. That's about the guy i who he jumps on a tree yeah and they cut to him running and then each it's like the worst cut ever and then his on the tree and there's coconuts now. He's chopping. Yeah incredible a monkey guy. There's a guy doing m._m._a. In front of this group of faith seem like island natives. They're holding torches and they're just kind of cheering sheringham on. I don't know what's going on there and then it cuts to ogres ray jackson and he's aired. You can get killed in that. Kuma tae enrage exits go really in so they set him up and then it cuts that how would you describe the giant guy who ends a bear hug killing that one what's what we call him giant giant smiling bear hug guy. That's his name listed on the i am looking at it right now just throwing something heavy that bulls two guys over and they got that in vonda. He's got that incredible move where he just takes guy and breaks his back like his knee nike snapping a twig yeah. Why are you smiling. You're murdering so that that sets the tone. We get to meet everybody <hes>. I don't know why i can't think of much more run from opening credits now. I know we're gonna make a lot of fun of about the movie like it's kind of a bad movie when you're like really watching it be careful but they do some really really smart things when they're making a movie this is i really powerful storytelling just setting you with all the piece of jewelry. I don't know what's going to happen but i know all of these guys. I'm going to see them. We'll be seeing them again. They're going to be substantial characters and my guess is that ice black guy is going to be a factor and the guy who is narrating the fighting arena reading like oh. This is where they're all going. I get it. I understand yeah so the next one i have. I just really like young j._v. d for some reason when he's training with the blindfolds and ways of the rope roman icon. I wrote it down as rope. Jesus cross is that. I don't know what else we would call it but and then he's like cost to the mentor going is impressed. Was that what you're supposed to do in that situation. Are you supposed to pull you back. I think he invented that one. I know i i'm not really sure what the end game into that was supposed to be. The real frank deuce said that this this device is a real thing called is called drawn and quartered and like it's the problem he he said that they put him in it for real and like whatever but yeah i would like one of those machines what happens to normal people who are in that machine. You're just every join muscle tears. It is a you split in half. Come off like when you do the chopsticks and you just pull them. Yes that's what happens to your body up to your chin. You just dangling currently it's. It's gotta be like top. Five on the set. People must have been like he'll. Why are we bonus also yeah it also can mean like how do you ensure this listen. You like we're forcing children into splits this. He's and yet but like can we like like is this okay like they're implying that they did which is allow they do. The same thing in <hes> kickboxer except a lamb down is on his back and they're cranking them. Next one is <hes>. Do you like the mentor by the way said the kind of mentor you absolutely yeah. They barred him from seven different movies that we could probably list right now. Including things and enter the dragon use the mentor. <hes> does this small scene but i like j._v. Dis the invitation being honored by breaking the bottom brick and the fact that i think is just a really important scene. I love in the movie in movies when they established like we have to do a thing to show you how cool this guy is and that's what they do with ray jackson reacts like he just like unwrapped the plasma t._v. or some o- impressed as when sean lee. I'm not impressed not at all when you watch it even ow in when i just rewatching before he recorded this and they do that. It's like a cool shot from the bottom up and you see the face at john. Club and amex is is gigantic room in the brick exposing. I think he really did that even now. I feel like he probably. I think he really think i think you do that. You know the thing about the brick so but brick back through that is true. I mean but still i don't wanna fight a brick how it physically. How would that work. How did how did that move work busting those bricks like that. How do you how do you think what you just quickly putting so much pressure at that. Bottom bricks just like some sort of law visit hey. I'm sure there's like the transfer of energy jason jason. How would you compare vonda mm-hmm moore to eleven and seven when when she has to make shit movement well obviously von and much more impressive because that's just that's just the physical power embodied within him that has nothing to do with <hes> you know cutting edge science experiments airmen's or you know enter dementia eleven hasn't p._d. Hope yeah absolutely some help. <hes> some cutting edge help multi-billion dollar a weapons program helped john john calvin damn that's all that's all that's all him and we're blowing right past the fact that he hit the top brick and that one didn't break or the second or served force down. That's really impressed. You watch changes. I do doing similar impression of eleven three. I don't go for it. That's that's all. I got you. I would also if i was smooth. Tele kinetically hold the blood in you think you can only do so much stuff. There's you're going to suit a car into the sky or put a put a piece of toilet paper next reliable seen y'all really taken for granted the fact that she's moving stuff and i know i'm calling this watchable. Most isn't fair to the montage the first round of fights a great <hes> where you really get a feel for oh okay so the people are there. There's the weird council over here. What do we call them. I don't know if they're part of the black. Dragon fighting society -ociety are not are they're. They're they're they're they're as executive council of represented whatever and then the really cool ring that kind of bends down and then everybody's just fighting there for like six minutes and we have ray jackson wins his first one and then taunts john lee get well. Let's say i tactical air. This is some wake up the sleeping disagree pre staging a mountain and the viper from game of thrones. Listen when you when you get that win win. It's incite you gotta finish. What are you doing right but you're doing. This is later. I fight it still. It just bothers me so much finish the job finish the job no i. I like him. Talkin shit immediately you like him. Setting the tone with sean liam strongly did it i when when when frank broke the brick chongli strongly start talking shit ray already knows ray jackson knows like this is part of his game. He's shit talker. Let me see what happens when i go at him and he looked a little little nervous. Are we sure he should have been called jackson. He didn't really feel like a ray jackson to me. What does it look like. I don't know he it seems. Where do you think ray jackson excellent from discussions later we do now. What state was he's definitely from somewhere where there's like a mountain nearby ooh like what if he was named sully eighty sully jackson now. I don't like sound strong enough. Would you go with. I like ray ray jackson ray jackson. What was erases martial art. Well later does not do. He does not do a single emma. Move in the movie. Unfortunately no raise brute strength. Yeah you take them down old school so we have a j._v. next to god and went twelve seconds twelve seconds and leading to ray going first first round broke the fucking world record friend yeah he's getting really loyal and then and then the song fight blood sport fight to survive had that in the back would you put it above her behind you the best by jonas yeah you're right because i don't sleep about it yeah <hes> next one the later round of fights so we're not in the semifinals yet but they have another montage 'cause. They're like you know what you know. People have montages. They know what they know how to make an action movie people some highlights from this one chang-lee just break swan peres swamp parade is just gets crushed an eyelid <hes> they didn't aiba probably isn't doing the skin frank dodd frank dukes ignoring that invite come okay tough tough look for jau. Gomez is the guy who's who's like very slow goes. Oh yea doesn't say anything and then there's the the slow motion throat-slitting in van damme's like all right cool and then beats them in ten seconds. It's five seconds that it takes as soon as kick. Some guy falls down. He kicked him off the map. Yeah should've been a new world record but nobody talks about that world the timekeeping there. I don't see anybody with a stop. Watch like how are we keeping somebody <music> this short. I think that's a world record walk. There's no way to add you. There's no clock. Nothing like not twelve seconds to. I don't know that felt really short guys. How did they get it so fast up on the scoreboard. Were those guys were wearing in the hard way. Park season terrific runs up that fast so the that one has those two and then the battle of smiling fat bear her guy i against crawling around guy who's a complicated character sweeney later. That's a tough one. There's some glimmer hope for the crawling around guy initially and then makes them for steak of the jump. Yeah you don't wanna you don't wanna close fat. Bear hug guy gets them and then that's it and then i'm jay v._d._i. Advantages with in my opinion union the probably the second best fight and this whole movie j._d. Against smiling fat bear hug guy. It's a great one where he does the stomach punch and you think it's over right <unk> scraped slo mo boone does like the shake after like this is why we this is why they did the thing with the brick so you can show us what happened yeah. He just destroyed his his and in writing it went through it went through didn't damage any of the material appear site inside and it looked broke his bottom vertebrates but he league walks backwards and then he's fine. Thanks off nails but there's no way they fate that they didn't see back then no. He hit him so he hit. They were like hey so far. We're junk lots going to <hes>. He's getting really do it here. You cool that good. How many takes you think that was that was one. Thank you think yeah. We didn't get it can we can we do it again. Lighting listen crate his little out of focus when you drop down and came over him. Can we get it again. You okay you need to breathe for a second when your liver is going into your vertebrae. Can you just step back act there. That guy's name has pamala pamala p. u. M. o. l. a. mall of the giant next re watchable seem chung. Li sean levers ray jackson very tough. You know how it's going to end. It's like goose dying and top gun. I know how it's going to play out <hes>. I don't want him to celebrate and also celebrating just a terrible idea like why are you doing that. I landed one good blow against chongli. You're right running back yeah. He's he's got to do is push him off. He was right down the down. Just fucking give him a shop. I like i like that. He's shouts that he's dead. He's dead out. He's not dead. He's just kneeling now a little bit right. I'm just before you even get to the rest of the categories. This is my favorite scene because especially really vandamme acting. That's the oscar that's the oscar. He's being held back. He just we just watched him punch. The fifth breaking second five br break pile now he's being held back by like the five seven hundred ten pound guy somehow can't get out no no no does that think it's tackler and then also it seems like ray jackson is just murdered. Apollo creed style. Yeah is pretty bad. See kind of surprised is he came out of that tough guy. I think that's why they did the thing earlier with the when he has a break when he breaks with his head yeah. I'm like okay. There's some very hard school and then <hes> you get three more lettuce rick foreshadowing the semifinals. What are the gambling lines at this point out of curiosity. Who do you have favorite. You don't know anything when you're just you've been going through this whole time. By the semi finals we have frank ducks first pokka frank dukes first paco and we have chon levers sean lem lee mung yeah and ends up being chongli still kills a guy. That's chung lee mung guy that does both do san chong lear massive massive favorites chong lease like the minus six hundred favorite. He's way up there. Everybody that fights chong is like either dead or in the hospital yeah and both of them have like the top three fastest knockouts in the history of committing powerhouse might be my favorite section actually so frank dukes against pacos just a great fight good bad wonderful. I like paco pablo's. My fucking goes guys my guy 'cause he was. The guy pretended to be my hands up here with my sisters i want to go. It's like a movie tie kind of move yeah yeah but he's also got like this kind of like vince carter like starting revenues leg up and then when he gets when when frank shakes shakes a little bit he just he adds a little bit of a like a like dancing vibe to the shoulders yeah. He's just like a very stylish fighter fun to watch so i'm in group that together with chunky kills a guy because that's not very long <hes> couple things incredible performance by the ref who never has has a word but his disgust and horror is just. Is he out there. There are no rules no none well. I think if you if you quit. I think you need to hear the quitting part. Yeah i think would be the only reason and maybe it seemed like as part of the rules. If you fell off the stage thingy you lost yeah which we never even when he goes blind at the end. We never had to worry about anyone. The stage <hes> the crowd chaining sean lee and then the council turning in the crowd quickly going. Oh this is bad and then everybody just turning their back on chongli basically including vandamme who's learning learning the customs like on the flag and charleena's these bad chunk guys. They don't appreciate your guy here in kumaon anymore. Come on they don't appreciate his like he's a. He's an excellent fighter. He's a wonderful showman he was he was really going forward and what i really like about. Jong lee is my favorite character in the movie is he was ratcheting it up every fight every battle. Every single fight is what i was going to the final target. I'm gonna knock you out. I'm gonna break your leg. I'm gonna kill hillier. Gonna stomp on your head to try to kill you now. I'm going to kill you for like it was getting worse. He's like darth vader figure to like he's. He's on the screen less than you think. Any hardly says anything seven minutes but his his feet. He's like cast this huge shadow over the entire movie. You just feel him coming. I always feel like i i still address because my son the way they use brock listener in the w. W. is how it's like barred from charnley right where he's not in there. That much says did many matches but when he's in there. You're just aware of him. The whole time doesn't say much even like jason said even when he's not there. You've you feel feels presence. You know that that's showdown is coming in. There's nothing and you can do about it <hes> and then that ends with you a next which might have been dubbed unclear if they words words were actually matching his lips at a great question. I think he said it. They might have dubbed every line he added this. It's not a question that franc versus chung lee so many twists and turns what was in the blinding powder this great step on the probably unanswerable questions early what what what was in their acid to salt pill. Why does why did he go completely blind. He didn't when they show from his is is just like blurry sure but then when he has down like he's gotta. He's like moving head around to less than i know but like come come on. He's seems completely blind what he might have been having it up. You think it's so assault i think so i feel like i read that somewhere that it was just assault saw it was some mash riot incredible incredible incredible slow motion freak out. Yes so van damme when you see that part. I feel like that was <hes>. That's the moment when you have to say like why he might be. He might be able to figure this acting thing out because that was like very pure very emotional. He was really hurt. I even now all these years later. Every time i've watched i've seen i i feel bad for him. In that moment he had worked so hard he had trained for so long and he felt like this moment is getting stolen from me because this is like tim duncan is not enough that you're allowed out to kill me if you want to but now you're going to fucking cheat sheet and and he was really hurt and that was a good moment again. Where's the council whereas any kind of officials come on. What are we doing out here. A dozen similar they're allowed rules in the in the kumaon very tough down there really good acting by him and also oh good slow mo during an era where we haven't really figured out you know effectively at all in the most good i was gonna say is that is that their most expensive day the day that they have used this film and the slow mo camera. They've got this one special hong kong camera for one day and a lot of people got paid off. That's how it played out and then incredible comeback. I would say one of the better sports movie comebacks of all time with the chips are down flying back <hes> and then they'll ask gene then damn goes to see ray jackson the hospital who's better. He's got this giant bandage lead on them leading to <hes> it returns as harley davidson bid. Anna ray holds his hand anytime any place anywhere air. You need me. I'm their friend and cuts to the girlfriend. Who's just like you're ready to crocodile friends. A little lady phraya yeah who looks near tears cut into van damme fonda. I'm vandamme fighting tears. They're still holding hands and he goes me too and it's like a moment. This is one the worse active movies probably the eighties and that's like a great seat. I it gets me emotional. That scene is more emotional than anything. Steven seagal ever did he's. He's way above love him. Yeah yeah that's gonna take this quarter. Yeah <hes> i wonder this when i did the action movie thing when they do that scene in all of aside and they turned into the new de niro pacino inexplicably what is what's it like on the set just chills it. Oh my god guys yeah. Wow oh my god. It was great amazing guys. I wonder if so they never show movies like in order yeah. They probably did that scene early on and i wonder if for the rest of the movie everyone was like what the fuck would you did before my van damme. Dad is my favorite scene in the movie but i think the most rewatch abo- is <hes> is is chocolate killing a guy. Where are you going. It's just so horrifying most remarkable. I'm going to go with just just any of the fight montages. I think the final fight is just inclined way tie for yeah. It's they're all great. This movie's really good at knowing what people wanna honesty <hes> and getting you to that point like back story. Let's do it quick and get into the fighting the fighting let's show you all the different styles of these these guys and then how about a little john claude van damme in a speedo you want that to great. We'll give that to you but i think it's for me. It's the final fight it's iconic shea. You know what i'm going different than both i like the introduction it's not even on your list the introduction of strongly for his first fight oh we get the his name comes up on the on the cards. We get that the bad guy noise. You're like oh shit here we go. He gets up out of his seat and then <hes> lynn and victor lynn like leans over and he like they they. They basically download john claude van damme. All of chongli stats is never been defeated. Who's also records include between the fastest. Kill kill guy doing their last date. Took the poor bastard right in the throat. I died right there on the platform jong setting everything perfectly for how terrifying this guy is going to be and they they stick the landing on every single part of that i love. I love a good character introduction more than anything else. In in this kind of it's usually when you got he killed the guy that's really good at that point. Kill the guy i mean yeah disguise a bad ass but but then he had all these world records say he was a really great risk kept going yeah yeah. They left out in the introduction. He's done more steroids than everybody else combined massively what's age the best i we mentioned donald gabe as ogre. This is really a trilogy for him. He starts out. He's ogre revenge in there. It's never been from that then. He's in. I intend penny h._b._o. Football series that o._j. Simpson was on and then blood sport and then. I have no idea what happened but he has a nice little five year run there. He's really great in this super. You're just like perfect sidekick where you're just like that. Guy's got that guy's got my back to worry about this guy. There's gonna be no turn. He's he's john qods buddy through and through yeah. That's it never have to worry about that with janice kenton the importance of free press like she's this out here. I've heard yeah i've heard about it just whispers on the street here for the atlantic. I'm going out there. I'm going to go undercover. I'm gonna like find out what's going on and it's really good reporter because this has been happening for hundreds of years by this point and it's never been written about and she shows up there in the room and she gets in the room. You talk like five different fighters and they're all you know. She found the guys who got invited to the underground thing. Everyone's willing to talk to her. I i like when she's doesn't take notes sitting front row but pulls at her recorder and just starts going pretty sure everyone's going to a- another more with the best of fight scenes we talked about a couple of sean lee things that i just think of age beautifully and disgustingly the blowing. The book is out of the nose is such agro villain move that he does it. I don't know seven times but i think you should done before this podcast the tone the late eighties steroids body that just nobody has any more because this better. Nobody has like just that chest yeah that whole second love seat yeah shoulder to shoulder unbelievable. It's insane the break my record now i break you like i break your friend classic. That would have been a good senior year but quit for somebody his celebrations very creepy kinda zorkin except i disagree adding that was that was like the scariest thing he could possibly he can't. He can't lift his arms head because he's got so much terrorism so he's just kind of like this jumping jumping up and down. I had a lot of trouble. I'm glad you brought that up because i i'm really thrown by his part of what makes him so sinister is like i can't read his emotions like he's smiling but he also seems like superman s. and then it's like a he's like brutally really savagely strong but also like has this weird dainty nece when he celebrating its. He's just a very strange character and really scary would you would you run into scene where he goes home and he's got a wife and two kids normal guys glasses. I got a little carried away and kill the guy taper to the part where they show him with clothes on in the in the reflection is always weird to me. I only wanna see him your shirt on dates. That is a great villain that you can't imagine having a normal life other than just brutalizing other humidity's great job by them. The peck flexes. We forget to mention unnecessary why commissioner chairman ship again. I guess yeah brought by the way it's another thing broncos or stole from chung chang lehmbruck listener yeah. He's in a tournament where you can kill the other the people you have to do everything you can to psych these guys. I guess yeah he's a world class. Fighters more would stage the best <hes> van. Damme's terrible acting is age. It's the best for me because he's so bad and i don't understand why they need to do more takes of certain scenes why they just director just cared about the fighting stuff and the dialogue was an unnecessary hindrance to what they really wanted. This movie to be was just a collection of montage of fighting. I can't say i disagree. No play the smart. They played it. Aims of vandamme definitely seven years later like pretty decent as an actor who's not decent n._s. Do and talk about the arena is the perfect arena for you. Yes for fight arena. There's it's a sandy floor. That's right. I'll go this way. This is how you know that's perfect. What would you change. You can't change anything now. You honestly wouldn't unless you want to put put alligators around the pit. Where if you fell that's already too far that stupid you wanna fall out and land in the sand and that's a lot of upkeep. Also i mean you've got to feed them and you get a clean clean. The alligator pit all that stuff. What would you change anything jason. It's kind of perfect. I love it. Also i love. I'm a big <hes> the the walled old city in hong kong which they've since knocked down really fascinates me like as as just like a strategy kowloon and to have like this secretive fighting arena like within that is just really cool and it's it's a perfect size. The other the the right number of seats the crowd is close enough that you can felim. What's the capacity there four hundred maybe u._b. Inches thing somebody it's like a middle school gym like smaller than a miracle jim embarrassing of u. of c. or ballot or did a whole pay per view that was just called kuma tei and just had four hundred people there but a lot of cameras ya que were just trying i would i would. I would wood floor or two hundred forty nine dollars. Yeah got the we mentioned. I wanna shout out stand. Bush who wrote wrote bloodsport fight to survive the song stand bush's you joe esposito of the ladies and then <hes> young frank before he it becomes vandamme but the thirteen year old awkward trying to have a bad frenchaccent vandamme. He's wearing like a number fifty five giants jersey. I don't know what's going on there. 'cause you giants hat. San francisco giants hat new york giants jersey. There's this early seventies mid seventies and in he's ruining for two teams in two different cities giants and i got an joy that there's also a kid one of those flashbacks in the bullying flashback who birtles and james t shirt <hes> which did they like do they have bottles and james merge seen in kowloon. I wonder if they knew who they were going in there for the sword or they just saw at once. They got like well. I think they were just going around well. It seems complicated. Yeah okay jason. How would you compare the first underground walk to come to the goodfellas. Scorsese one shot up shot. I think it's a very close one eight one. I'm gonna go with the scorsese edging it out because it is in the camera work. It goes on time continuous but can you deny the kuwaiti vibe bringing you into this world that you would never have access to is really. It's really something else. Cou tay also great name great incredible name coup mutate. It's the best all right. What's age the worst <hes> the acting i we covered that way. Can i add one for what's ages about. Let's do it. I really like the tournament moves structure any movie where there's a tournament and place aman because you don't have to expend a board. Let me see you move. Somebody's name yet further a gotta have that. I really like it any any fighting tournament. Absolutely it just works so we have a ringer m._m._a. Tournament we'll have a blur way we should we should have to death or what who's favorite in that to the to the maiming russillo ringer now bryan curtis bryan bryan curtis shape it the guy who is secretly the struck his hands the next time you see them. It's like football helmets. He's from texas tech edison brawls yeah. He's got the face that lets you know like i'm not gonna take any shit and if you try it. I'm gonna put you in the dirt. This these are some movies that <hes> with tournaments in them blizzard undisputed karate kid yup warrior best of the best for last minute. That's not technically tournament. It's like you know it's a accumulative tournament. <hes> enter the dragon no the classic fucking never back down mortal combat the quest which was basically blood sport to these these are these are all fantastic. There was that stretch late eighties into the early nineties where the video games started in the movies started kind of reflect the video games yeah. Where do you stand on best of the best list of him. That finished in the guy off with ten seconds left when i was little i wanted him to to kill him now. You're a piece of that now. Mike oh that makes sense. I understand now. This is is a bigger deal because he because dan shows up best of the best to when when tom needs backup like to throw that out there what's best for me is strongly. I don't know if you guys disagree and that that's the that's the pig i learned years later. Just still an off sean lien waiver such a wonderful movie character has celebration. They like all of his parts are interesting interesting. That's just so we talked about oh. That's a good one in in <hes> in warrior yeah when tom hardy's character whenever he wins a fight his celebration as he immediately leaves a ring fasten angry. That's those are the three best i think post fight celebrations strongly jumping around with that high pitch like the noise tommy leave immediately and daniel larussa like being confused every time that he doesn't my three favorite stunned like look at too is <hes> support support group of his semi girlfriend yeah. He's just double. Check in all the you'll be. You have no friends what's age. The worst is the acting we mentioned <hes> we gotta talk about the crawling guy the monkey fighter. I my monkey guy at this point. It's not great eight yeah. I gotta say i loved him for years and years before we started to think twice about some of the stuff but the style itself. Can we talk about the style <hes>. Is that really going to work as long term. I don't just around the ground to the semis. It did get him to the san. We never really saw a lot of footage of him a leading up to that. I mean we saw enough. Issam cracked that one guy's head open seemed like he he was down low. He would try to trip. The person then you jump on them was his move but it seemed like the better move would be to just stay away. I'll say the thing about his style and listen. He got the invite to the committee so you got to give him his respect that is you know it's like small ball. When it first came in. It's it's a change of pace in your surprised by it but as soon as he starts getting to the later rounds people start scouting him. You know what you know what you're going to. He's like my dad. You understand what what is happening at that. Point people have scattered them. They've been game series of. We've got about mentioned earlier about the in the beginning of the movie when they're standing around. They look like islanders. Yeah you can tell watching this move today like this was written by the white guy or a couple of white guys and they're like what do do you know anything about this. I don't know make a monkey like no. That doesn't work. Just nassiri australia's really bad guys. How do you feel about the plot with a reporter in general because i have it in what stage the worst i think there are certain aspects of it that have aged the worst like like her going undercover like basically as a call girl. Yes the get into the success of as a weapon very very that is tough asleep in with the subject of of a bad very very bad other than that that you know. It's just very interesting that trope of like how do we get the female reporter really was a trope of the seventies and eighties like had a team for instance in the making of this movie or i read about the making of a and they really wanted this to be did to action movie that everybody late in the eighty s but with a little kind of romance thrown in there trying to crack that code so at some point the two guys the aforementioned after they saw monkey guy yes they were like hey what if it's a female reporter undercover recover but she has a little thing for jean claude kneeling good good idea <hes> there's a really tough tough two minutes here post ray jackson injury with jean claude moping around yongkang. He'd just say stuff to assign. That goes goes on my own. I can be strong and it's like classic bad like worse than frank. Stallone <hes> frank stallone like wounded done this but it does lead to him on the on the the freaking whatever that is it's worth doing the split on the fifteenth floor of some balcony reconnecting to like the the thing that got him here and there's no way that there's there's no ropes. There's no safety harness up there. He's like i will get on the on the thing and i will do it i would. There's a reason you fill in this movie the way you do in hong kong because it's just like hey do we just get up there and do the split and if you fall please don't because then with the double checked his insurance i it is funny. Though for such like terribly acted probably directed movie. There are ursula really good seeds. We had a lot of that ending seen of him on that. Thing is pretty great like scorsese would have been like that's pretty good shot at us. Hong kong in the back and the next scene is just the reporter running around the <hes>. There's that lame chasing. We mentioned earlier such a fall from grace athletically politically for forest whitaker who was the star linebacker and fast times ridgemont high and was headed to the n._f._l. As the middle linebacker who could be offenses by himself and now can't run through hong kong. I just wanna read this. I just wanna read the i._m._d._b. Of forest whittaker foe to let's say you're eight only about vision okay. I won't do it vision quest eighty five then he does a bunch of t._v. Fall guy eighty five different strokes north and safran strokes series. Yes amazing stories his hero eighty six color of money scorsese. He's good in that platoon. Big herald nother great another great character. It goes back to the t._v. Hands of stranger and back to movies stakeout yeah <hes> very good morning vietnam <hes> his blood blood sport bird which i believe is nominated for bird was when it's like wow that the guy from fast is a real actor just like an incredible run to throw throw blood sport in their wild. This is like several oscar-nominated movies in this run and then blood sport. I love him in color. I like when he asked if if he's also then he had a good career but then he would just pop up in species for no reason <hes> wow why are you in. He seems like a fun guy. A forest whittaker the thing. I respect about him in addition to the fact that he's obviously like a great actor a really good actor. My man says about securing that bag species shirt what what's that sex alien. Yeah give it to me. I was just i was just in a hard hitting vietnam movie movie that was nominated for multiple oscars. Let's do the sex alien also see when i watch him move feel less like it's about him just trying to get some money and more like it's about about him just wanting to do a thing. That sounds cool <hes>. I think it's men i why can't be both. Let's mary the things together we eventually he. Eventually he won an oscar way bedia means. He's a brilliant actor eleven phone booths with with colin. I think it's basically just him and colin farrell that whole movie. I just carry it so first this time you saw this if you if somebody told you there's an oscar winner in this movie you wouldn't have picked john claude. He was out. I might not be out. I might not have picked for his whitaker either. He is sick. I would have picked the actress you put two stamps on it but he's definitely mailing it in doc another what's age the worst ray jackson's m._a. Skills considering he doesn't do the movie. I i don't really know what his style and i think he's gonna make fighter. He's just he's like. He's like a chocolate del. When chuck ladele showed up in the end gonna knock you out or you're gonna knock me out. Pick one and then young frank the accent the acting it's just it's like they just looked at some headshots and they said <hes> he kind of looks like jon because let's do this. One hundred dollars left who again this guy is a i know it's like can you try a frenchaccent or belgian accent or just anything that sounds foreign his dad when they meet up with his parents with frenchman had totally different accent yeah not an close yeah it's rough. What's the worst monkey that's gotta be. Ah yeah. It's gotta be the monkey guy reporter and the reporter and then we didn't even mention ray jackson like sexually harassing the on the train as far as very good with gigantic ray jackson leg and clouds leg hook this guy this character casting what if i i don't have any like a ton of information events of what if say honestly forest whittaker feels like a casting the fact that he's he's in it who else was up for this. Who gave him the script and he finds his podcast. That will definitely be my first question all right so blood sport what happened it feels like something like his sister's like a fiancee or something was like a we do like i have. My friend has movies doing it in hong like can you help us help this out off the best that guy ak the joey pants award given this to norman burton who he is helmer. He was yeah force workers partner. He's one of those guys. I didn't had no idea what his name was until a google that i just wanted to point out a little stretchy had he was on a lot of t._v. Shows kojak baretta harry. Oh rockford files one woman quincy chips simon and simon and knight rider just in like an eight year run like there is a certain actor that just popped up on all those shows all those procedural show so he made that i just say one thing about helmer and rollins so you're here to <hes> <hes> apprehend frank dukes this expert fighter green beret who's gone on the run to fight to the death <hes> martial arts tournament mm-hmm and you send like two dudes with stun-guns and no one else rate and you're likely at let's take would just going to cattle prod him and then i guess dragon of the plane lean like send more people like why are you doing it this way. How many people do they have to send shay like the to capture capture capture him. I minimum eight you need you need ten or twelve. I think <unk> maybe maybe the plane of people you need. Try the hotel lobby three per limb. The lavi just the two of them yeah and then raid like knocks him out at chasing susan eric all right now. I guess we got a call in the hong kong police but you gotta start there <hes> start with like fifteen people and then after repeated the ad this later for nitpicks after after repeatedly failing at their one job the whole time they're like hey. You're going to talk to the fight right because we can't get this guy. The sal rubenesque they knew a word for most egregious overacting. I i would actually say there's more underactive the overacting but i do think though no no is that has to be the choice who wins the dan waiters word biggest check vic lynn you you think so yeah yeah for sure you blowing it. Frank forget about you getting a totally for ray. You have a chance to ticket automo- joe understand. You can be the first westerner to win this thing. It's gotta be held. He's the only other guy remember from the movie. That's it sean elise. That eligible doesn't do much. The only other one i was thinking was pointing point at you pointed me guy yeah because he's in there for a minute but it's a memorable minute. He looks tough zanu muscles. These are shiny and shit. Is it possible the reporter is the dan waiters award winner no too much now. It's not as much as she's too good of an actress yes. She's too good. You need to not be that good of an actor or actress to like. Do the only really in this for seven minutes. Maybe we could shoehorn them in. Do you think it's van damme speedo in the post. Coitus does a call on over his giant but cheeks his is very around. Have you ever looked at your own but in the mirror you're not that day. No you call buddy. I want everybody there. I have no idea who wants to dan. Waiters word a half ass internet research so frank dukes his resume allegedly was three hundred and twenty nine kumaon matches seventy five to eighty undefeated and there is most consecutive cao's thirty six. This is at the end of the movie and there's just a million things on the internet about this. He might have made up everything half of it some of of it we don't we'll never know there's like a whole thing in the los angeles times. It was a big story on it. A few months after the movie came out and they just disproved everything even this they like he had a trophy that he said they gave gave to him and it turned out that he had it made like down the block from his house. He said he was in the c._i._a. And his dad was like in the massad. There's a lot of frank dukes been spending spending some tall tales. Yeah the co redder showed in lech who i think was one of the two aforementioned wet guys that she mentioned he said i had known frank dukes for a number of months for came came up with the idea of bloodsport frank told me loud tall tales much of which turned out to be bullshit stories about participating this so-called kuei events sounded like a great idea for a movie <hes> so he definitely inspired fired with stories true fall semi false whatever inspired see that was the real frank news mistake he should not. He should have not been like this happened to me. He should that have been like. I have an idea for a movie right and then just he could made twenty five march large movie. 'cause the stuff is making up was incredible. I read one story where he was talking about it and and he said that you know they owned it down for the for the movie version in the real live version. We didn't fight on his platform. We in different locations. There was one time where we fought on the temple. Simple of a building in the tiles are cracking under like the logistics of that. Is this unbeliev yeah. He's like really good at making shit up. He should have gone that way instead. He's there's this one one time. I punched these. Five bricks in the bottom line broke yeah. That's that's like a crazy thing go. You could really do that pre internet. Just be out there saying yeah. I'll stop here. What's the best for frank dukes but what's age. The worst of the movie is you can't make up shit like that running for president so yeah the <hes> he also said sheldon led edge. There was one guy who introduced me to name richard bender who claimed to a vaccine at the venue and swear everything frank told me was true a few years later a falling out with franken confessed to me that everything was ally franken coached him and what to say. I gotta say dukes yeah. I gotta say just if you can google frank dukes and look at him and obviously you know you can't judge a book by its cover doesn't look like a ninja no but it doesn't look like a fifteenth degreed green jitsu expert who like killed people for the c._i._a. Chung li down. What's what's crazy to me is when you read about him when you see him his. He's so very clearly. What steven seagal ended up coming out that i get it now. I felt he read that story seagal. I'll just do that scholars. Forget about make-up some shit. He ended up being the fighting coordinator for the foam input jean-claude three training program <hes> so this was filmed inside kowloon walled city which then got destroyed which i don't know anything about but i guess they just knocked down the whole city. I don't really understand it. <hes> i think they'd knocked it down to build an airport. Also it was like now. I'm just speaking from my cursory research over the years about this subject but it was like <hes> was a constant fire hazard and i guess like associated with crime and stuff <hes> because people would just like flea in there and no one could find and couldn't find somebody saw blake bortles we yeah we need to shut this down. I just read genesis story in the atlantic about going on for centuries reason. They're there for pulitzer. How many splits did <hes> jean claude. During this movie he does <hes> drawn and quartered when he does on the top of the temple he does on the chairs. He does when he when he fights pamala he does about four. You've used at five five five five jason. Oh wait wait and then when drags him six. Oh wow that was yeah that does count. I guess tell you was hurt for real on that. One i ask this is this. This is the split expert who laser seven. Oh then i miss thank you might have missed the one when he jumps under a smiling bear hug guy and then punches him. No i got i know it is and this one shouldn't count but but it's when he jumps up over chongli and he doesn't in the air. That's what it is. That doesn't count you did six. I found this on the internet so it's gotta be true. The fighter we mentioned was actually knocked unconscious by jean claude. Who in the teeth came out that was that was cool. They kept it in the movie. Yeah just great <hes> there's three fighters in this movie i wanted to mention go for so bolo was in enter the dragon i i don't know what his background is but he had some stuff. You're dude pock. Oh <hes> was palo toca toca toca. He was a <hes> champion yup and then michael kissy who played swan parade is who got annihilated by john lee he went on a plate tong po the main villain and kickboxer boxer. That's broken leg. That's always my favorite bit of trivia is that they went to thailand to film this movie and they couldn't find someone from thailand and to play tong po. Yes it's like fucking for the makeup on on our guy michael diarkes game that they played you know karate master or karate karate karate karate champ now's nineteen eighty-four. I love the idea that <hes> being good at karate. Champ like your actual martial arts meals on they translate translates slates to that mortal kombat apparently took huge inspiration from this film. I'm sure yeah which makes sense just never related the uh-huh johnny cage character yeah the game creator. John tobias said they wanted to make a gritty game based on the phone all right <hes> apex mountain. I'm going to say yes for donald gabe. I don't think i got this is coming off for vengeance nerds and i tan and then to be a nasa makes sixty five million is bigger than revenge of the nerds now but he's like the tenth most important person in ruben engine there this one he's like focal. I don't know it's it's in play. I think as revenge this is definitely the first time this conversation percents. Oh what donna gibbs apex was yeah. I think that'd be even donor the actress leah airs. I'm going to say yes <hes> because she was is just i looked at her and debate and it's like a hundred t._v. Shows that she was never on full-time. She had a great run with walker texas ranger apparently <hes> apparently i'm just saying. Would you go chongli aka bolo go this enter the dragon i go this. I got this because bruce lee in dragon. Yeah i think that disqualifies and all this is just like icon iq. I mean how many memes have been created because of this character about kowloon gets knocked down after is this the apex of kowloon walled city. Ooh i think that what other movies have been set in this place kind of how it lives on. Though i don't know enough about it i think i think actually the <hes> call of duty black ops to be a mountain for kowloon walled city. That's all i got for a frank. Frank dukes probably his apex about before for the internet. This is in force whitaker's apex mountain. This is this is jean. Claude van damme splits apex mountain picking nits. We mentioned everything. I just had <hes>. I just felt like everybody was too accommodating for john. Lees finishing move move it. Just let them do it. We're just like he's holding people and he's doing the he's getting the crowd up inside the guys are unconscious or somebody should have pulled them aside. I mean he got it. Stop killing people showing up john once again this was in his gimmick and then some questions about how gambling worked the kuwaiti just seems like a lot of money and people shouting and throwing them. I i didn't really do they keep track. I feel the same then we went like old wall street movies right and they're in the pit of trading places so ending papers. Yeah yeah doesn't seem official. I like when the one guy gets knocked out on the and they all throw their fucking bedding tickets on top of him. When he's laying on the ground i will say i've been to a real cockfight fight in a cockfighting arena <hes> in the philippines yeah and the way they do it. There is there's like a person who look who covers one side of the arena called the christo like christ because they hold their arms like this calling the bets and you'll just be like you'll like do some kind of hand signal and they they just literally remember what you bet and then at the end of it wildly inefficient. I'm just saying they'd somehow they remember and then if if you lose you you ball up your money into a little ball and just throw it into the ring in those and they put it in a basket and take it away and if you don't pay yeah. I guess you don't do that because then you don't leave the ernie but that's how they that's how they do it and then if you win they like ball up they take the money and they they make a little triangle football out of it and throw it up to you that sounds all skies have incredible memories. That's all i know any of the pickets yes yes. I have one why did sean claude. Van damme have to prove himself after he already had the invitation and understand why he had to break the break. You got the invitation. You're good go to factor two factor authentication. Click the. I'm not a robot and also because you don't option asia right. You don't know if that's the real guy. Just make sure it's just make sure it's i like to receive that. He was really just wanted the brick thing and they just kind of shoe her ended in ask. Your invitation is invalid. Another one then chongli who we know is the reigning champ. He has nine fights in the tournament. So this is a single elimination. The nation tournament there have to be five hundred twelve people for him to have nine fights to get to the championship that true yes. I did the math damn well. They do in beginning they cut to. There's just a ton of fighters. In hundred five hundred pile of bodies outside kowloon world's the best quote. I enjoyed. Why don't you quit round. I as a way of heckling young young frank. You didn't have to take it there. Yes brick doc that hit back became one of the iconic once a great hat tip to briefly you jackson. You look like a jackson the hills mr lynn and i'm lynn jackson okay even even victory lineker best quotes. There's a lot of quotes in this movie. The no the bolo i break you break your friend. Those are really best was could this be remade as attempt so netflix show my my instinct extinct was god no and then i started thinking about it and if they just had a show called kuma of chartered a veteran your reaction to it. I think he would have to be like hosed off. Yeah i would yeah you wouldn't hear from me for however. Many episodes were eight hundred twenty two minutes like fleabag just really short and to the point if they did they did cobra sky and it was a great gimme gimme to say yeah get on it now back to the to the thing bitter three lines that gets said to new chongli they are. What are they three lines. This is another great character building thing tomorrow. We leave for the day. That's what his trainer chosen as the first thing anybody. He says the next thing anything anybody says to him. <hes> is ray jackson. I'm gonna kill you man yeah and then the last one is van damme yellen sat. That's the only time anybody talk also like fight related stuff and i love that there's a deleted scene where he goes to visit the guy that broken leg is like simon care to tail probably an extra questions what happened to the mentor son initially the mentor goes hey man this is all about without getting my son into the cool tatum day and then but then he gets his ass kicked out of school and he's never seen again so what happened now he dies. That's why i frank comes in. That's that should be my answer for the day. Never show the death now. They show them mourning the death. If they've got a picture of what happened yeah you'd probably use in the military or something who knows no back story at all. We have three minutes of him walking sadly around kowloon to that sappy samba. We can't find out what happened to the mentor son now. Let let me also say like why is the mentors like why is the mentor son so bad at fighting. You've got like ask so bad why you've got access to this incredible resource your father who's like whoa whoa whoa. How do we know that he is bad because he got beat up by three older kids. Even that fighting the that should have been a bad as we should have been like wow that kids like the ca like when we watched the lebron james junior high last. He's got to be frank on his an on his knees he did do that. In and frank was holding a sword. He's still ran up vitamin fucking kick them but again that should be my pick for the dion waiters when the dad gives speech about how his dad his son is dead and like this tradition that we've been passing passing down from father to son father's chokes up in that moment like why can't we give him dion waiters. That's what i'm saying. That's that's good or the mom who just smiling knowingly at everybody that surfaced online another unanswerable question which already asking you what happens when you mentioned bud sports forest whittaker like you're at a dinner with him you just have if someone came in fucking love blood sports says reaction. I think he's he's thrilled about it. Tells like a kowloon story. He's got out of news stories yeah. He's crazy and they had to shut that place down force which is an all-time cool okay one hundred percent shea out of all the sporting events. You could have gone to the sports movie. How high is john lee frank dukes the finals you could have been ringside with the with the atlantic reporter. I mean the story and the two f._b._i. Storylines right themselves yeah. Is that a top five. I would have wanted to be there for the finals moment. That's got to be a number one. I think if we're just talking about the stakes we're talking about it like a a again. This is a fight to the death. We have the reigning champion who hasn't been defeated in years. We have this the first american person who has a chance to win like that's an incredible but he might die and he's there carrying on the lineage of his mentor whose son undyed that story comes out about right. That's all my god. That's that's a two thousand word feature and this is strongly coming off having just killed his second combatant right in in the tournament i that's that's got to be the soccer game victory. I'm not interested in that. This is what they had to beat the nazis and then everybody escapes and everyone in the crowd breaks through the walls leading to big story of a good story but i gotta say it's not it's not like this one. The hype surrounding would have been huge. The nazis worst the prisoners game. You're like like the nazis yeah. It's it's like it's more about the escape. It's less about like the game. It's excitement. One is dislike hype hype about shoot louden swain. I don't even know what that is vision quest. I know that one's pretty big that was i never saw vision wesson. Oh all right. Can you watch out for me to watch. That's peak. That's matthew modine greatest wrestling talk about time. Oh that one. I is that the one where he climbs up to the okay. I've seen clips of it. I think you're so excited. That's gimme chongli. Versus ranked news number one it me <hes> sidney dean and billy hoyle versus a king duck for number two. Give me you know if you pay for that. One you primarily go to the court and my third pick is gimme. The uh gimme the title game friday night lights how about how about highschool texts how doug and kate for the doubles figure skating gold in cutting edge coming off the drama i t his hockey career in tatters he switches lanes to become a figure skater and they win the goal i would i would go blades of glory slapshot title game where it's just gonna be abroad for three periods would have been fun to go to my honorable mention fourth place. The the bob sled race in cool runnings earnings. I wanna see that down there. Also you know what actually forget it. I think the most hype has to be <hes> like a dozen dead racist baseball players coming back to life to play a game or fill in a cornfield pick. I mean i mean this is like everything you know about. Reality has been overturned. Go i'm gonna i'm gonna wind up it. Give me snake in the basketball pit when he's gotta go court to court art ten seconds to make the shot and he gets it gets harder and harder and it ends with him doing a full court shot yeah and then they still try to kill him. Snake snake plus can baby this one's. It's for shea specifically. Yes best paco movie performance ever bloodsport batboys. Who's the king of the pacos. Oh blood him but i'll paco agla guy oh negro. I forgot about that one. I only in bed. That's so that's the that's the number one number two number martinez pablo from blasberg overpop- go from bad boys. Yeah i think so bad. Wasn't he talking about trump voice. Yes yeah my god sean penn. Ben sean penn bad voice. Us is a dark movie. It's a great movie though he fills the ben and i watched the last one seeing that there's eh showing the pill sheet with the soda cans. That's tough is the the exploding radio at is wild. It blew my mind when i realized that that is a guy who grew up to be the guard shawshank. I was like oh no wonder he's douay and then he ended up in <hes> in billions yeah. He got his life together yeah. He's one of those guys in which real f._m. Guy would be the best bloodsport character conor mcgregor yeah right unique unique conor mcgregor. Look we're going to reboot it in economy gregor in the in the john claude van damme real. That's where my mind was going as well. You need nate d as he conor mcgregor finds out about kuma today he's in and is doing here's. The issue or monsters are making him. Do it can conor mcgregor do like the humility required for the frank dukes now yeah. Yes you think so i think so. Did you watch his documentary is a tender guy when he wants to be he listened he meets arnold schwarzenegger and the documentary and he like freaks out about it. Arnold schwarzenegger says i'll be back line and he like melts. It's great. It's wonderful conor mcgregor. You mean nate diaz and rampage jackson okay. Was this the biggest choke job sports movie history. He's he blinds. Jean claude van damme van vandamme <hes> he blinds him the guy's blind in a very small space. He's already killed. Somebody broke. Somebody's leg and put somebody in a coma and he can't finish them off. I don't think this is not a church. You're not play around. I mean this was part of his training. I am the next day that's just incredible you have him. That's incredibly bad. Luck that you blind at the guy and it turns out train. Train fight wars yeah five blinds. I think it's jackson's is more. That's legitimate choke because he had it he had he had he had sean on the ropes oops and then he's like. That's a we were talking about reggie. That's reggie doing the barrett yeah and then the guy and then tony was toni kukoc. She has a shot afterward yeah yeah you have three kids like you could do this. One of one of the twins okay you just do the blindfold training thing that they did with with with van damme in this movie and having like walk around the table with the blindfold serve like see how much you could actually and then compare him to the other kid and see if this actually work okay could summer project for you. We're gonna try that. Put you gotta serve everyone dinner. This platform just don't feel like it would be like in two days. John clods like yeah. I'm getting them and it's like. I don't even need is. I don't think it was two days. I think it was a it was a long time. The montage stretches years times times bestselling authors chase around accused of child abuse children who is has been in karate jujitsu or anything like that. He just wants to fight people for real. That's great. We put the twins in his karate. He's like i want to actually do stuff we with the twins in karate when they were like six or seven and they loved it and it was like because you show up in the first year just doing flips yeah yeah twists in your like punching this like plastic paper or whatever and they kept going and kept going and then eventually he got like the sparring session and the hated it. They didn't want any part of it. One of the boys braxton was there and he was like he's super shy. He does not like touching other kids. You don't want any part of that and he <hes> they call them up there since they did and they're trying to get into a fight and he wouldn't he wouldn't do it. He just refused to hit them so they gave him these like styrofoam sorts then like okay hit him with the sword it gets a sort and other kid but could just as soon as they said fight he fucking opt braxton in the chest and braxton through a sort on the ground he screamed like john cod vandamme in the movie. Oh <music> and then he charged with the kid grabbed them on the floor and we're just like <hes> he got like three or four solid shots before that since a pull them off and we were lake aac know karate karate for you. That sounds like what would happen by said yeah. I don't know if it's a good idea to ever been and believe what i was watching so so if you're blinded by an illegal substance while salt with salt it's fine your would your strategy have been into sweeping. Roundhouse task kicks as part of the blind. Maybe he's over there just all around the apple around the strategy that you can't see i mean i. I actually think that's pretty good because it's that the fighting platform is not that big. I'd say falls off in real life because there's a couple points where he he's trained for just the ref f- trained for activating all of his senses yeah right any other questions melham anything else. Did we answer every question yet. I have a thousand of them but i think i would like to keep them to myself. This is gonna be <hes> i can. We'd see how this plays out who won the movie. No ma'am chongli yongli psychotic okay. I thought it was strongly to know because this movie it gets quads career going and he has like a ten year run and it's a john clyde movie but i just feel like charlie wins the movie yeah. He's one of this is one of the best sports movie villains ever if not number one and i can't think of this movie nothing yeah he's up there for me. Yeah incredible efficiency if they remade this movie would be good or bad for you is is bolo young wrongly again. He's probably sixty. East five doesn't have a liver guessing now. This is this is good. If you remake you get echo from the raid. Oh in this movie and you like let let him do the fighting stuff. I'm in the whole concept of this things happening. In some weird place it might be real might not but i'm gonna go see what it is and then it turns out to be real underground whatever i i think that should work every ten. It's it's a classic. It's a classics arguably could have been like a fast and furious setup for a movie where it's one of the guys and the gang has now fallen into this world. It's a classic setup along with the most dangerous game like we're gonna hunt human beings in this like on this island. There's a new movie. That's coming out. You'll be just that you just can keep recycling that. Every five to six years is give me a new hunting. 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275. Jeff Abraham and Burt Kearns

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You're listening to kill mccaffrey's colossal terrific podcast broadcasting. Why don't you say mammy <music> <music>. Hi this is gilbert gottfried n._s. Mr gilbert godfrey to mason colossal podcast with my co host frank santo padre and our guests is this week our one jeff abraham as one of america's foremost comedy historians begins and a go to pop culture expert for t._v. Producers documentary filmmakers and authors as a senior account executive at jonas public relations. He's rep some of the top names in comedy including including andrew dice clay steve harvey george lopez bill maher and for the last eleven years of official life george carlin he's old so the owner and curator of the largest comedy album archive in hollywood that's for sure and has served as a consultant on documentaries and tv specials including may hey come live per p._b._s. Comedy central's one hundred greatest standups of all time cinemax. Let me in. I have let me in. I hear laughter salute the friars club and end end method in the madness of jerry lewis. He is old so on the board of those sacha note. Oh let the to the madness but good enough to lewis. I'm not you know comedy center as he's on the board of the night dragging i general diamond fly gay as sure even ball and as the author of an upcoming authorized biography of the ritz rick brothers and he was once lima down by paul anka bird kerns as now ward winning producer director writer journalist and author that controversial book tabloid baby about his whirlwind development tabloid television he's written and produced the non on fiction series conspiracy theory with jesse ventura all up presidents movies with martin sheen and and the secret history of rock and roll with gene simmons he's old so produced comedy pretty high there and documentaries death of betel and bin laden's escape the comedy. I did fuck it. I want to go home. The direct produce that nonfiction films that chris montanez story basketball man dan for fuck it all trust me out of here. No i don see if i would have died on your before. I could have gotten a book. He's off my timing. The night is young. He worked with everyone from burt. Reynolds share to robert robert duvall. He was once curse stout buddy hackett brand new. Oh book is called. Show one go on the most shocking bizarre and historic debts tsk opera bombers on stage. Well gun did not podcast jefferey bre ham and birth gurneys <music> found dead in their west hollywood apart. That's the one that they like they. They wanted you to add the found. Welcome boys here first of all. Thank you gilbert for giving us a quote from the book. We appreciate that gave them a quote for the book yes s. I don't remember what it was but i'm sure it was good. I'm gonna renault that nobody knows what it's like to die onstage like gilbert now now this this book <hes> definitely teaches you one thing that if you're desperately in in a moment in need of medical hell being on stage is the worst place because everyone's going to start laughing and applauding when you're gasping brad. That's true that happens a lot especially the poor woman who dropped after singing. Please don't talk about me when i'm gone. That's a good one. That's a good one. What is the what was that the cabinet thing when we're when rodale was when when dick cabinet but <hes> realized that upheld at cavite realize rodale was in trouble he purposely did not say. Is there a doctor in the house. Now 'cause it yeah. There was at pregnant pause. He was thinking if i say this. The entire audience will think it's a joke so he actually had this for a second. What should i say it. It's it was tragic beyond words yeah yeah. The book is fascinating for so many gibbon were discussing it and we were just talking about before you guys sat down the we were. We were talking about both the guy that was buried in cement joe what was joe the amazing. Joe and gilbert is fascinated by the one armed lion-tamer. Yeah you figure if you're a one arm lion tamer asian pretty much time to quit and don't get drunk before you walk the lion. Yes i yeah in the book. They say that the guy was scared. He already had an arm bitten yeah and and there was one lion that he couldn't really fully tame it was really a an angry lyon and and he decided the best thing to do to come as nurse would be to get your on trying to tame wild animals. You guys want to feel that one and and give our listeners a little quick overview well. The epitome is to show must go on. These performers have all said i would rather die onstage than in bed call. We'll lender said i'd rather die in the wire you know so here's the guy who saw a guy i who loses a one army says i'm not going to quit. I'm a lion tamer. That's what i do. You know what he did. Uh-huh go ahead and it was quite a show but i think there were seven lion's cage with them and each one of them took a bite and then once they got some of the lions off the other ones went back can add some more all in front of an audience of children and families which is great and i heard away. I think it was like one lion. Who was the one to break the ice right and then the other side is thinking hey where the lions we should be doing nice and they started eating yeah. There was one line that was very polite. Took a bite went back to where he was sitting and then when they thought it was all over he went back and that was the story that stayed with me and haunted wanted me through the night but you guys broke this thing down. You decided you wanted to do <hes> well. How did you first tackle the book. I mean you decided to do it circuses and then you some some stay stage performers and even people who died on radio right. Let me back up. The idea came fifteen years ago this august. I went to asean elvis impersonator. My friends were the opening act and the gentleman who coined the phrase but you heard him. Hundreds of times elvis recordings aldebaran said ladies and gentlemen elvis has left the building yeah he was in the lobby talking with friends and fans and they said said what are you going to write a book. You've done it all. You had an amazing career and he goes. You know what i have time. I'll get to it whatever that was saturday night monday morning. I'm watching the news. They reported he had just who was killed in a car accident sunday morning. I said i was just with him. You know less than forty eight hours ago and you realize you know life is fleeting and you think about how many people have died on stage. Elvis died the day before a torah hank. Williams died between show and we knew about dick shawn and this man next to me said and i came up with this title the show won't go on and he said well put your money where your mouth is right the book and we were gonna do all these great stories of people who drop dead you know during a rehearsal solan cary grant drop dead but burt says you know what i think if we just limited to guys who are people died on stage. We may have enough. We didn't realize how many people died literally onstage about. It talked about a year. I have to tell you before before i forget. I was once on stage about. I don't know two three years ago. I think i was on stage stage and in the middle of a bit a guide did scream out. Is there a doctor in the house and i thought and i started laughing because i thought this is like a football team doctor in the house and some woman died while you were performed yes yes you're in the middle of norman. Nobody's laughing. She heard was joyce. It was a consummate professional. Wow there's a surprising number of people who've died on stage. We we started out again. As jeff said we started by getting people like harry chapin who died on the way to a show litter skinner who died on the way back from a show it turns out that there were so many it was just unwieldy so we narrowed it down to people who died literally yeah yeah so we never done who died in front front of a camera people who died on a stage in a circus tent and then there are still too many so we had to get rid of movie stars and t._v. Stars and people who died in rehearsals and narrowed it down finally to just people who died in front of an audience whether it's an audience in a theater in an arena or on social media now if people have not people that commit suicide recite on social media but performers like the guy who had who took all of our social media followers on a wing suit flight off a mountain and he was one of the first to do it and he flew about twenty feet before he dropped and at the end was just him and hitting her to scream hit him and then you started hearing the sound of cows fell in a field field and all these cows come over to see what does it feel so i was talking about how you guys decided to categorize the material so it was just that was that was what you narrowed it down to anybody that died in front of an audience on radio conducting an orchestra in a circus tent in the case of he was on the high wire and not athletes fleets week we couldn't fit in sure boxers or people people that go into a <hes> stuntman into an arena knowing that the death might be a possibility ludi except for the circus performance because they consider themselves to be performers. Not athletes didn't end mean and she didn't die on stage but i think she died immediately. After i think didn't carmen miranda i think she was doing like the jimmy jimmy ranch. She had a heart attack while performing on the jimmy durante show and then went home to beverly hills where she hosted a party. I believe and and then her husband found her. I think the next morning in the hallway oh yeah he's working on a sequel cool things. We're finding our misconceptions. People have like people think irene ryan died on stage or frank sutton sergeant carter yes so certain carter was in his dressing room and he dropped dead before he went out on state as i found it on your website doing further reading we had very strict rules like man we had very strict rules and criteria like lee morgan. We said another five feet he would've been he he would've made the book and this is a this is a jazz jazz trumpeter who was walking toward the stage. His common law wife shot him in the back. His band was on the stage. He didn't quite make it so he didn't make the book now. Common maranda had a heart attack on the show. Yes while dancing yeah yeah. I think cesar romero was somehow involved. I don't know i don't know how we love that. You guys are attracted. The dark side of show business like us your view. Obviously obviously you listen to this show and you're also perfect for it. Why is why is orchestra conductor. The hot the the highest. Why does that come with the highest risk. The orchestra conductor is probably the most risky occupation and showbiz that struck me and the reason to give it away. They're all usually between the ages of fifty and eighty <hes>. They travel a lot. They travel between cities so conduct for various orchestras. They don't eat well the a lot of airplane food. It's very high stress getting these orchestras together in time for the show and then once they get up on the podium the adrenaline adrenaline starts going and then ah the conduct the the music starts getting a little bit faster and they're conducting harder and then they plots. It's funny. 'cause i remember many years ago. Oh someone's saying that aucas turk conductors are among the most in shape people chris the giving themselves a workout put every every day they you know it's like waving their arms. It's like a roba size but i guess it's not working working. It might be too much exercise for some of these people yeah what what about what's and we're jump around here to gobert. I are fascinated by the magician's which will get to but what what about a gilbert favorite what about joey ross joey ross and how hooker he was putting on a show in his apartment complex in in burbank <hes> when he's in the middle of showy stopped he sat donna side of the stage realized he was having a heart attack and died and the person who put on the show only paid as wife half the money because he only did half a show he he was posted. He was supposed to be paid one hundred dollars and he said here's fifty he didn't complete several people are jasmine warne marsh as well well that was the whole point of the book is too. I was always said a bird what's the button because otherwise and he had a heart attack and he had a heart attack and i think the epitome of that is to find is the story that tells it best is the first entry is jane. Little this woman who was about four ford eleven of she had the she was about the size of june for ray. She had the guinness book of records for the longest tenure in an orchestra. Come largest instruments. She plays trip was bigger than her. She comes back after ill health and drops dead unfortunately during the i'm korva show and as i said if you wrote this in a movie they would say no way take it out. Nobody's gonna believe it. She dropped dead while she's playing. There's no business like show business surfaced and they was a horrible not like there was only one horrible thing that that that woman the girl actually she was said dancer and she was set on fire. Yes that goes back to the eighteen hundreds. That's that's an early one. We're we're her flimsy nightgown or flimsy gown caught one of the stage lights and as she kept dancing and running around in circles at the the flames just got higher and then it turned out that other dancers learn there was a flame retardant they could put on their costumes so that wouldn't happen again but none of them would do it because the costumes look better without it and wasn't that's like the manager you know ran up on stage and said everything's thanks fine art. Let's let's ask often thing with the girl dancer that gave me a chill is when the mother her mother was in the audience to make matters worse and that the mother went up and said had something to our while she was dying and then the daughter answered remember this yeah it so many incidents unfortunately where people have literally guide in front of their children or their spouses. It's and the one thing we wanted to do was to celebrate. These performers lives and really not to make fun of their a tragic endings you know but it is i mean some of them are are almost cartoonish the way they died you know when when tommy cooper it drops dead on stage the audience is laughing and and then quickly go wait. That's not an his act. The british comedian tommy super yeah. I mean people go. That's a new bit. You know when dick shawn died. His son was the stage manager in new the act and dick dropped to his feet and he he goes he doesn't do that in the show. Normally you know i mean it's literally addiction is probably one of the most famous insights of someone just so you sean yeah i heard with the girl who died on fire that the mother ran up to her afterwards afterwards crying hysterically and she said had i been in <hes> the balcony seat i could have thrown a cloak on you and put the fire out and the girl her dying words were a yes you could have and and i thought for that how a lot fuck that the mother live with that as the daughter autre soleil words because usually the mother was in the wings waiting and the mother could have just thrown her cloak on her and saved her. There's a couple yeah there is a there is a a couple of stories. There are a couple of stories like that. I mean sean son is one of them which is one of the sad or things in the book and i knew all for years. The dick shawn died on stage but i didn't no the details yeah as jimmy the looting to they didn't know he tried out for major league baseball. I didn't know he's a ballplayer. That was his original dreaming. Nick shaw player baseball player. Yeah i mean dick shawn one man show the second greatest entertainer in the world started out he started every show by lying down on the stage underneath newspapers totally still not moving at all and when the audience came in and filed into the theater they didn't realize realize he was on the stage and then the lights would go down and he'd come up from the from the underneath the newspapers when it came time for intermission he talented take a nap and he'd fall down and laid out on the stage through the entire intermission and they got up for the second part of the show so here he is. He's he's at the university of san diego played in the auditorium and and he's riffing. He's doing one of one of his more surreal bits and he says let's pretend that there's been a nuclear war and everyone in the country country is killed except the people in this theater and i will be your leader and then fell and everybody buddy kind of waited. The stagehands knew that he falls down on the stage. Once in a while the sun was in the back of the theater again really usually fall like that doesn't hit his head that way so he he calls down through the through the headphone to the stage managers. Go and check them see if he's all right. It's the stage manager walks out. He is i. I don't know all is. I can't tell if he's breathing or not. He walks back and so then then suddenly ah dick shawn son realized what was going on ran out to try to save his father and it was too late but he was the worst part was people in the theater. Some of them asked for their money back. This is we haven't seen the whole show off <hes> while he was on the stage and in this case they said is there a doctor in the house and there were about forty doctors in the house because it was right next to the hospital. I guess san diego has a <hes> university has a teaching hospital so a lot of doctors and they're trying to save him but then the lobby comes his cousin who is a cardiologist who they didn't need to do an autopsy just realize right there and then he had died. Wow that's a sad one well. The sad one is also it's been what thirty five years and when we talked to adam sean his son he's still cries about. It's not it's not a joke and you say you know well you get any. Do you get any kind of relief for comfort in the fact that he died doing what he loved. It's like well a little bit but i would rather have him around for another twenty years well. That's not a question that was asked above your carcass. Yeah day graded the greatest hand. Sir albert's answer is different albert. Says isn't it amazing. He finished the act. He didn't die going to the theater. He didn't die in the middle. He waited until he finished. He sat down and if you've heard the recording you you've never heard laughter like that. Desi arnez is screaming. The people are pounding tables. No pun intended gobert. He killed and literally seconds later. Yeah bob weinstein said someone and said isn't it great. Your father died doing what he loved and bob. Weinstein said to the guy goes. What is your mother do and and <hes> he said chiesa housewife and he said let's go over to her house right now. Take out a gun and blower fucking brains out and we can say she died doing what you want. Also was washing the dishes. Talk a little bit about that night in about park your carcass arcus <hes>. It was at the hilton right at the beverly hilton. Yeah it was a friday l. A. friars event arose for lucy desi testimonial dinner. If career dinner okay forgive me so there were men and women they're it <hes> big names burn and <hes> burns berlin edwin and jessil. Your favorite was the m._c. Tony martin <hes> danny thomas since sammy davis junior waiting to go on but they <hes> unfortunately got bumped unfortunate circumstances and harry parking carcass einstein had this bit where he would just take what was logical and then twisted around like you said the friars is a very exclusive club. You must be <hes> pledge by two people in good standing one of them by chick hallmarks. You know he would love to do those little switches and he'd been doing it for the last year or so. At various roasts at testimonial dinners with great success. He had become a favourite he had been in. Ill health for years before he had did a t._v. Movie the earlier that year and we thought we would see more of them but the old ticker would gave out and that thing is is your doctor in the house and the great story is so milton berle gets up to calm the audience and he goes to tony martin tony sing a song and tony sings. There's no tomorrow. How do you write that. Ah years later leonard maltin told me <hes> milton berle and art linkletter were doing a radio show and they were in the hall all they both looked at each other and they go. I'll never forget that night. He goes neither will lie and i mean that's schmuck tony martin. What about al kelly which happened at the new york friars the master of the double talk that was that was to say it was a hilarious one but yeah that was one where <hes> old al did his his double talk routine and then he went back on his way back to the table he went out and they carried him out to the round the world bar there were doctors in the house of course and they pronounced him dead on the bar. 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The first album got the new york times and he was on letterman but you don't strike lightning twice so it was getting hard to get press ironically at the same time we will working with wayne noon when he was on dancing with the stars ars and all these singers hate each other. They're all jealous you know. Why is tom jones doing this. Why is tony bennett on the m._t._v. awards so my boss loss was on an airplane with paul's either wife or girlfriend. I'm trying to remember the relationship and somehow she let it slip. We're working with paul with wayne newton so wayne so paul calls the office. I answer the phone he goes. What's this. I hear you represent way. Newton and i'm doing my jackie. Gleason humna <unk> the longest pours gilbert and your life. I what do i say and he goes. I'll take that as a yes he goes. I remember this to this day. The fucker can't saying now america will say that he can't dance okay. Why don't they out on you jeff because i was the guy who answered the phone goes. I'm paul anka. How dare you represent that guy who who can't sing way newton. Just you know he's the guy how dare you represent somebody else. I know comics competitive but it's great to know that singers competitive the same same way that each other and you know the you know he was. I think we're about the same size five foot four you know in you know very arena pollyannaish. He's the first guy ever over the black american express card you know he would walk into chasing him but he was very proud of the fact that in ocean's thirteen al pacino is doing his speech from the famous recording of him boss yelling at the bay but he was proud of that. It's like a fucking hammer exactly and he said you know what i was absolutely right. Those band members were terrible is my ass on the line. You know he was proud of what he stands by it bad ass. He is not contrite about the guys. Get shirts. Stop fucking wait. Is what about you buddy story. You told me over the phone. As long as we're doing stories from the tros well i worked with with peter brennan and at at a current affair he's the man who invented a current affair and then later peter went onto invent judge judy so we had great success with the with the courtroom show around one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. We had the idea. Let's do a comedy courtroom show so we thought big beat markham was dead. No joan the pygmy come so through through my attorney from the friars club. Paul sherman was was my attorney he he represented buddy hackett and arranged for us to meet buddy hackett so peter and i and my wife allison eh meeting a buddy hackett is one of the afternoon in the middle of the week we arrived at his house is beautiful. <hes> one story house in the flats of beverly hills <hes> y- deep giant house but buddy's wife had turned every room in the house and including the sunken tennis court which we'd all seen pictures of buddy hackett and johnny carson and alan king playing tennis she turned the entire place into a cat sanctuary cats lived in every room there were octaves hangers and buddy had one room in the house sort of a wing a large rec room that was his so we went into the rec room and contain contain a pool table a bar a display case for his golf clubs a display case for his guns and he had guns and every <hes> shudder on every window was closed so it was pitch black. It could've been midnight but it was one o'clock in the afternoon. The middle of summer <hes> buddy took out <unk> <hes> the drinks and he made us lime ricky's and we started drinking and spent about three hours did mention the show once stick for us us. Let us his poetry he <hes> he read us the letter that he wrote to bill cosby. When his son died he wept while he read the letter to us he gave us the full buddy hackett back and then at one point he just stopped and said i won't work with any assholes. I want my son sandy involved and he tells the amount of money he wanted per episode and then we kept drinking and he said why don't we just beat fuck. This show is just meet here. Once a week and drink said thanks buddy. We left about three weeks. I went by maybe a little bit more four weeks waiting to get some traction arrange meetings for the show and finally we have some meeting set up for the buddy hackett comedy courtroom show show so i call buddy and hello buddy burt current and if you remember me we were. We were at your house for the to do this comedy courtroom show. It's like now. Leave me alone no buddy this is we had the meaning you know you want it. This amount of money and we're going to pitch it now. Now fuck you. I don't want to do it alone owned by buddy this is this is the real thing we're going to actually. We're going to do a show. Go fuck yourself any. I actually gilbert you could if you could play buddy hackett. Oh here now ha turned out that buddy had signed onto that the j. more show yeah yeah. It's the guys by the way back to the book for one thing. I've known bob greenberg about fifty years and i had no idea that he was al kelly's he's got grand grand nephew yeah o'kelly's honorary grand viewers known bob forever. You know bob greenberg bob green. How is that possible if anyone was would be in he lost thirty three pounds on the diet. Just recently i saw on facebook example bob would always tell the story. He didn't even know what fires event it was that we had to tell one for joey lewis. Larry thought it was for something for somebody else. Okay okay now onto the magicians which is where gilbert wanted to go. Tell us about washington irving bishop in washington. Irving bishop was a mental list he was able he was able to like drive a a horse a horse carriage through the streets while he was blindfolded he was able to find people in the audience who had a coin pocket a modern day kweskin uh-huh but to get into the act he did a lot of cocaine a lot of drugs a lot of alcohol go into these conniption fits on stage and then dropped to the stage and go into this very death like coma and everybody that he worked with an already worked for knew that if he it fell out in the state and his peer to be dead he wasn't really dead he was in this was in this translates state so we actually kept a little note in his pocket his front pocket and said you know if you find me. I'm not dead gilbert. May i recommend such a not so here's actually performing in a is performing in new york and it happened he fell and they took him over to to the doctor's office and his mother who who worked with him and his wife showed up to say well where is he and they said oh sorry they took him to the funeral home and they had removed his brain. It wasn't dead and i think they sued and rightly so south so they they were a little over zealous. They performed an autopsy on the guy and he wasn't dead. What about this is another one gilbert and i love and we forgot the name the chinese the the chinese bullock catcher. Oh wasn't really chinese. This is the most famous chung ling soo aw we're big fan. No relation to jack soo shouldn't he's. He's his real name was william robinson of course and there was another chinese magician with a similar name and he decided i will i will do one name similar to his and people will think i'm him and i will adopt a persona and i will work and became very successful. He was one of the most successful performers performers in all of woodville like allegory to exactly and he would speak in gibberish chinese and he had a phony interpreter who would ask him questions like this. The person that he was ripping off the name ching ling foo awesome now did did he make himself up to look he's yeah shaved head and the pony tail and the oriental robe and so even doing this the bullet catch for ten for about ten years had been done by by an a number of magicians for for about one hundred years prior. Excuse me gilbert. His assistant's name was sue scene she she was from yonkers site either. Sorry jeff gordon l. blanket. You're seeing so so he had been doing it for about ten years in already been come. It wasn't like the grand finale was something he did on occasion so he had done it and he had this whole thing where he's going to catch the bullets on a silver tray and unfortunately he got he had two men low. He was so secretive. No one in his show knew how the trick was done. Oh jeez oh protective so they put you know gunpowder down one of the barrels which was a trick barrel and would not shoot and they phony projectile would come out of the second one but but unfortunately doing it so many times that the gunpowder you got into the other barrel and next thing you know a a a bullet came out he was shot dead and that's when they found out he was not chung ling soo but william robinson. He spoke the first his first. I words of english he goes. I think i've been shot. That was the thing when he was shot. He went. I think i've been shot and the audience went. He's speaking english. Nobody does that really a chinaman. Get your money back <laughter> added. I love these. I love these magicians. Who was the one who was the the the the guy who's wife substituted. The bullets real bullets for wax bullets. Was that professor. Mario argentina might've been arnold buck. We have a we have black wizard of the west in south dakota whose whose wife was angry at him. I think she was the one that swapped out. The wax bullets real bullets. The wax bullets. It's amazing burt when i were just chatting the first recorded entry we have the bullet catch was eighteen twenty of someone when dyeing during a bullet catch and the last is two thousand seven. Oh my god holly for almost two hundred years. No you would think at some point somebody would wise up and go how this is not for us. You know i mean and people have been killed by having audience members load load the bullets yeah one time someone from on the audience actually pulled out a gun and shot the performer. Is that was professor. Mario was gonna audience members said hey catch this professor and shot him and killed them and the guy went on trial was acquitted because he really thought the professor marvel would catch the bullet jeez couldn't they. They just lock them up for being our good friend. Yours gilbert penn jillette really put put this whole thing in perspective jeff on its how morally irresponsible it is to do a trick that puts you endanger. He's really explained it quite well in the walk. We're so thankful that gave such a great interview. He talked about people like david blaine is going to risk my life for you know and and he also talked about you know you should have a warning in front of the theater and he said that's ridiculous that people now it's just a trick. He goes when you go order disneyland. If you were going on a roller coaster and getting killed it wouldn't happen. You know what's the loss of feed nothing nothing more dangerous than sitting in your living room absolutely that was houdini philosophy and the philosophy that penn and teller lived thinks he's going to die doing not a stunt on stage. I remember penn and teller did a bit with taylor is in a water tank oh yeah and and he starts schleicher gasping like pounding on the glass like he's like drowning and then you know works out at the end and penn said to the ordinance he goes. You know what stands out. Not one of you in the audience got got up to help him but but that is a perfect example of a magic trick that is completely completely safe and i should say that i should say that's a completely example of something that you think is safe can turn in the second you know of course the bullet. Catch is a trick trek when done correctly but demand of danger that is inherent to that trick well. The saddest one is is actually ralph breath wrath biolo- he was the most famous bullet catcher in germany he caught bullets about more than three thousand times and he actually did it with steel gloves and steal dentures that had in his mouth so he would catch the bullet in the steel gloves and it would go into his mouth unfortunately gave them really bad headaches and one day one through tyrolian mountains and got dizzy and fell off a cliff. I see gilbert. I feel you think you've got a heart career going up. There and it's difficult you. You wouldn't think it would cause bad bad things like headache catching bullets in your mouth. Will you feel better now. When you're doing the chuckle hut on sunday you think about what these guys handed. Tell us about the diving bells and the connection to <hes> the three stooges something we love to talk about on this show 'cause gilbert was fascinated by this to okay that was a that was a vaudeville act. The six diving bells were some you know pretty girls would sit who would stand on diving boards around the side of a of a of a high of pool and when the curtains would open each one would dive into the water <hes> unfortunately the the the diving boards they had were were very touchy. If took a wrong step you'd go flying and as the curtains were about to open one of the diving bells went up in the air came down on her head and was killed and again. The stage manager ran out and said everybody's. It's all fine. She's fine now. There's the show goes on. It turned now that the six diving bells were not all girls. A two of them were men a one of them was ted healy and the other was moe howard about how about they were teenagers the diving yeah because it was turned up in one of mos memoirs right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah what about the actual death of ted healy which is which is shrouded yeah mystery. You guys got a theory you know they say it was <hes> what the relative of cubby broccoli chubby broccoli was directly involved right all right. That's right yeah beat ness seat in the death supposedly but it's added that is pretty much the given theory that it was <hes> result of that you know he got in a fight. He was drunk and i believe he was an alley. Afterwards <hes> i think would cubby broccoli rockley every river current <hes> and then what about the death of alfalfa. He wasn't alfalfa's last words. Where am i drugs. He was shot in a drug deal was shot over a dog. Yeah i taught someone. He powered dog or someone bar his dog again. Then i think he pulled out on knife and someone shot or something like that <hes> eh onstage don't ask stays story <hes> <hes> a re a recurring motif by the way just in in <hes> not only talking about shootings but you you you mentioned before you mentioned hack. It's gun collection and this is something jeff jeff and i were talking about on the phone. What is this obsession with comedians in guns. You guys went to the jerry lewis auction recently in vegas. We had to sit through seventy-five live lots of guns. We'll five different lots of his. We both got the catalog and said oh my jerry. Lewis is a state auction catalogue. I figured there's going to be costumes nutty professor outfit and all these great items the first forty pages was seventy five lots of guns so we go to the auction and we had to sit through seventy five lots and lots number forty two a beretta lock forty to a call eve five five yeah. It was just like what is he paranoid. Did you think somebody was after him. He had a stalker and he would always say if the you know that that guy comes here you know that fucker you know. He was very proud of it. You know i get having to guns or three guts but i mean we're talking an arsenal and arsenal yeah yeah and then he he had one gun was engraved. I think it said jeweler super joe. I will give give credit was very proud of his heritage. He had many things he had desks ornaments at said super jew. The jew stops here. He was very proud of that. What's the what's what's it's the sid caesar story with the gun jeff so sid caesar dies unfortunately and they're they're cleaning out his closet and they find more cigars. Ars suits a couple of handguns. You know hunting rifle and then his daughter find something says. I don't know what this is i have i better call the beverly hills police. It was like a thompson submarines submachine guns. I mean the these comedians with these guys. You never know when you might need one of those. I forgot who said it put it in perspective burt rattles estate auction. He had two guns in his collection. Jerry lewis had seventy five. So what does that tell you you you worked with burt reynolds burt but you you despite the fact that that several of the people around him were always worry that he was going to take us take swing at which was i guess not not an unfounded fear. You liked him got along with. 'em burt reynolds was was was terrific. He was a <hes> the movie was called cloud nine <hes> and <hes> wrote it with my partner time bret hudson from the hudson we had mark of course yeah <hes> breadth and already and al had won the oscar oscar for the godfather and he was sort of in his autumn years of that time and <hes> bread had known al for about twenty years and we got together al het had a showtime <hes> special that he was offered to do and his company and our company got together and it was called my first time it was a series for showtime where we interviewed eighty four women about the first time they had sex and then reenacted it with porn actors al-radi and his partner kind of it worked under pseudonyms for showtime and then <hes> brett and i would go out to lunch every day at this chinese restaurant on pico with al l. and we would talk and one day al said. I just went to visit my my son <hes> at n._y._u. And he had this poster on the wall of this really sexy woman woman at the beach gabrielle reece and i said to my son. I didn't realize that you were into beach volleyball and he said i'm into gabrielle reece. Look at her <hes> so then we he kept talking and said why don't we do a movie about beach volleyball strippers and we said yeah so the idea to a movie where burt reynolds played the coach coach of a team of <hes> strippers playing beach ball beach volleyball and we actually al actually got funding for it and we hired a director who had just come off a really hot movie funky monkey. I'll long harry basil harry basil wow and so you know britain. I thought that we had you know the next s._o._b. S._o. Be we had this movie up upset in malibu where burt reynolds was playing a con man who comes up with this idea to to start ready to start a beach volleyball team. We really had a movie about beat volleyball strippers but we had we had quite a cast. We had <hes> gary abusive <hes> dale yooglie actually it was burt reynolds dale yooglie paul rodriguez angie everhart gabrielle reece and gary very abusive came on to do a one day cameo but gary knew some of the people there and he liked the craft service food so much that he showed up every day for the rest of the shoot the next two weeks wait no access hollywood showed up to interview the cast gary ran over <music> as if he was the star of the movie and did all the interviews split up for the kind of movie. I would have shown up all night yeah. It was good but burt. Reynolds was was terrific <hes> every morning again. Harry harry did a great great job. He did a great job with with what we gave him. <hes> there are a lot of dick swinging around <hes> around the outskirts of that movie harry managed to negotiate everything got everything done on on time but he was a bit afraid of burt because al had told him the story that bird punched out a director of one of his last movies so harry didn't wanna get punched so every morning bret hudson and i would meet with with bert in the makeup trailer go over the script and go over some lines etc and the way burt reynolds had makeup put on was he would sit and he had a pair of jeans that he would roll up above his ankles. He had a t. shirt that the neck was cut out in the sleeves sleeves cut out and then make lady had an airbrush and sprayed every exposed part of his body with orange paint they can't make this up and and then he put on his rose colored glasses went out but he was as you know he's never never never threatened you know he was he was great he he he worked well with all the the young kids i mean i had come from tabloid television the tabloid world sure and i i said to him i said you know you always show up for the national inquirer and we've always heard stories about you. Do you like the national enquirer deal cooperate with them or do you hate them and he said i fucking hate them. He said you know these people called my parents in the middle of the night to tell them i was dying of aids and he said one christmas <hes> the national enquirer down in florida had some giant christmas tree atlanta florida and burt reynolds and friend of his got a helicopter and dumped half a ton of horse shit on top of the tree. Did you know that gilbert now aw story <hes> but you know you know. I remember working on some movie where there was gonna be seen. It was an comedy where burt reynolds is in a hospital bed for the bit and i heard the word on the set was one of the tabloid said did they were offering a certain amount of money to anyone who could snap a picture of burt reynolds in a hospital. Oh bed so that they could run the headline burt reynolds dying of aids unbelievable yeah unbelievable what what what what afternoon he invited into his trailer at lunchtime and so we get to the trailer and opened the door and it's it's dark and we're like oh shit you gotta hit on us or something. He was heard about burt reynolds in the tabloids. You know best friends with charles nelson reilly. Dom deluise never never show. Let's what's going on here but he was sitting there and he says come look at this and there's a documentary on the screen. It was an errol morris. Documentary things called vernon florence lawrence. It's a good movie right and there's this. There's this old turkey hunter being interviewed. He's talking in this really deep south backwoods florida accent and bert sitting there trying to get the accent down. He was saying it only jonathan winters could do this is what i really don't always trying to be a better actor which was great. <hes> we gotta talk a little bit about jerry and we'll get on a save jerry for less because you've all got your jerry stories but let's and gilbert has his but i do wanna know <hes> one one other thing from the book and you guys know we jump around <hes> we gotta talk about rodale dying on cavite 'cause we've heard dick's perspective because he was a hell thick spor- yeah. That's the m- organic food food that was the best part of the story will die. Dick always said the gods gave me that you could not ask for better guests to he died on your show by the way was interesting in your book that he and marshall brickman got together and put the tape one night 'cause shape the tapes and evolved right. He won't let anybody see the tape. Yes you got it. I see it <hes>. I think can publically say it. <hes> your friend and ours robert bater a aw who were in love with mr cavite he said to me. If you sell this book i will let you watch the rodale episode and as soon as we had a contract in my hand. My first phone call was debater fantastic and we got to watch it. We <hes> probably you can literally almost count on one hand. The number of people have seen this episode and its dick will tell you about twenty people year. Come up to him and take the expression on your face and no one has seen it unless you were in the thought. The episode never aired right right between liberty thinks that it did dick telling it as recently earlier this year on seth meyers too detailed account at pete hamill did because he was the guest on the show in the paper. It's one of those things that everyone feels. They have seen that episode. I didn't know that hamill was a guest on that. Show until till i read your book. You guys are among the select few. It's like the select group of people who've seen the day. The clown cried footage and exclusive club. It's not a bad movie either but you know it's a little subtleties that people have gotten wrong. Did he actually say this phrase. What did he say this. You know there's little things we were watching and. I don't know if birdie from court at the first time he says a line like oh. Let me save this since into when i until i come back act next time and or cabinet says we'll have you back. Yeah i mean it's does little subtleties which were which were very are airy. I mean i is part of the legend is that when pete hamill is being interviewed and rodeo is next to him and then suddenly rodale started making a snoring sound which was apparently like the death rattle and the legend has been that that dick have it lean over and said excuse me mr rodale. Are we boring yeah. Yeah i was gonna ask about that and that never happened interesting when when he made the noises some people in the audience giggled a bit but dick have it and pete hamill knew you right away and the alarm on their faces was like they're like holy shit and immediately they went into action. There were there were there was there was no time for any sort of <hes> you know bond mott's or whatever that story was told on the very first episode of this podcast yeah absolutely yeah and the other thing is that said during the course of the interview rodale was very concerned about having like free electric-shock therapy be for before anybody was doing it to get the energy back into his body and we came across a piece from marshall ephron who was the other guests on the show that at night and he believes that the the lights in the microphones were out of rodale body. That may have been the hardest aw yeah alright jeff. You're the big jerry defender on facebook and you and i i've picked bones with you before and there's no no no breaking brexit on frank gehry defender than you are gilbert you know of course gilbert loves to use the line. He was always nice to me he was he was turns out nice to both of you. I've seen both i've been very lucky. As you saw i promoted the documentary the method to the madness. The filmmaker told me hey when jerry goes. I have all the outtakes so i've seen the great side. You know what i was doing. My rich brothers book jerry. We wanted to interview jerry. He called me up left. A message suggest machine and fast forward is dead in his house doing an interview with him and i've been in this company many times a sweetheart. I we have burt and i both have friends who've worked on the telephone for twenty years so that's the great side but so they're doing event in las vegas. Call the founders founders of las vegas. Oh this is george schlatter. Show you there yeah. This is great trying to trying to get a ticket to the event sent. Its caesar's palace or flamingo. I'm trying to get. They said it sold out. They said well all right. We got a couple of cops. I went with bater <hes> <hes> and then i sit to a woman who's sitting next to us. How'd you get in said. They were giving away free tickets in the lobby really so because george carlin harland was on the panel along norm crosby phyllis diller shaky and jerry. I got to go backstage. Jerry walks in and the room lights up. He's the big you know. We have to give credit. I mean who else had a career of seventy five years and he walks in lady and everybody's laughing and screaming screaming and having a great time so then the panel takes place and they're talking about vegas and performers and jerry says this quote which has been in handed down from george jessop george burns to milton berle. There's no place for young comedians to be bad gilbert. How many times have you heard that yeah yeah. Unshaky green goes jerry. What the hell you talking about but friedmann has one hundred improves my friend sammy short vent to the comedy store. What are you talking about. Jerry jerry goes. I'm sorry i thought i was right and next thing you know jerry excuses himself to go to the bathroom and never comes back. He was that elephants yeah. I was in the audience and that was a scary moment. 'cause y'all obviously ashley shaky hates him much with a long. Probably everybody else on the earth. Thicky hates so i saw a they never sold this but when they were trying to sell this they did an edit of the taping and they had to cut around us so jerry never looks like he walked off the set. I mean i mean the other side was at the for the <hes> method to the madness the we had not the documentary had not been uh-huh available for the critics they only had a few minutes of it and was just after he got fired by the telethon so he he really wasn't in a good mood. I remember him being introduced by chris aubrac and he's give this long intro and jerry in that kind of burlesque delivery goes hurry up chris. I have to shave again. He gets a laugh. He's out there and someone says jerry. What do you think about reality television american title and he goes in my day. We didn't say t._v. We call television and everybody on these shows like mcdonald's rejects these kids today. No no one knows who al jolson is. What what is he talking about so you see this side of him but again having having been in his home backstage at shows. I've had great experiences with him but you know if you tell me a story. I'm not going to deny it. It and bird spent you know a great time with him and yet bert. You're gonna fair earth a telethon to one of the telethons richard besser the bells dell's has a jerry lewis tattoo aha he sure does i have two one is the familiar telethon logo the other hirschfeld's caricature he's got to jerry lewis tattoos allow and now i heard more than a few people and and i mean maybe that's why nutty professor such gory film. I heard more than a few people. I asked who described jerry lewis assist jekyll and hyde well. It was shawn levy helped him with the p._r. For his book the king of comedy he was the first one to make that conclusion inclusion in the everyone always thought he was doing dean martin in that movie and then he said no jerry lewis you know yeah you know if if you look at jerry jerry lewis jerry langford you know they had the same initials for a reason sure sure sure but bert you you. You had a also mostly positive experiences of jerry. Sorry i did back back in nineteen eighty seven. I was working a n._b._c. News and a friend of mine was the assistant director on saturday night live and she had a gig in the summer as the assistant director for the telethon in las vegas so i said please give me give me a gig as a production assistant just low level gig so i can be there with jerry. I wanna stay up all night and stay up the whole time jerry for the telephone so she got me the gig i show up at caesar's palace we go into the trailer where the production offices are and they said this bird. He's going to be a production assistant. Who could get over here right away. Jerry just found a big mistake in the rundown. You've gotta fix it great you know what are we going to give me the rundown which is the whole schedule of the show that g- gets handed out to everyone and they sat me down at a typewriter the old days and gave me a bottle of whiteout because jerry himself looked at the rundown and realized is there was a big mistake at the top of every page so it was my job to take the white out and white out the words muscular dystrophy because what it instead of the top was nine thousand nine hundred eighty seven muscular dystrophy telethon. I had to wipe out the words. Muscular dystrophy type in jerry lewis so so said the one thousand nine hundred eighty. Seven jerry lewis telethon happy to do that. We're happy to do it a crank. The main thing i wanted to know how real jerry was at the end of every telephone you know he sings. You'll never walk alone. He blunders he puts the microphone down on the a stool and staggers off. I wanted to see if whence he stepped off that stage you went. That'll hold the bastards for a while if he was the real real deal so i planted myself. I'd been up all night. Jerry and sammy davis sammy davis had it was before he had a hip replacement surgery. He was onto canes. He had aalto on one side holding them up and his mother on the other side three o'clock in the morning. There's a drunken crowd in the bleachers. Sammy goes out throws. The canes anes down and does birth of the blues and that's where i realized sammy. Davis junior was like the greatest performer. I've ever seen jerry way back to jerry. I'm standing there. He sings. You'll never walk alone. He's crying. He puts the microphone down walk off stage and falls into his wife's ice arms and just weeps and i was like oh jerry yeah aw about that so to make a little bit longer. Tell me uncall- two years later. I'm working at a current affair and basically you could kind of do whatever stories you wanted to current affairs. Let's let let me right. Jerry lewis letter so wrote. Jerry lewis a letter and i told him what happened in one thousand nine hundred seventy two years earlier and i said you know also i've been a fan fan my whole life and on weekends i lived in the in the west village at the time on weekends i go to record stores and i find copies of jerry lewis just sings that was the nineteen fifty six standards album one of the best albums ever made and everyone should have a copy of it anyway so i wrote a lot i i've got a cops got this album. I've got about twelve copies and i'd like to give one to you but what i'd like to do is follow you around during the during the preparations for and and through the telephone but two weeks later i get a call at the office low birth. This is jerry kidding and he goes. I don't even have a copy of jerry. Lewis just sings. I'd love to have one <hes>. You're welcome to come to the telethon. You'll have my complete cooperation. The complete cooperation operation of my crew. The only thing i ask is that not just be a two minute segment said fox jerry. You're gonna get the whole show. If you're gonna let be behind. The telephone is is terrific as a matter of fact jerry. This is a great forum for you because you can address your critics by critics. I fuck them. I fucked my critics them mock them next week. So we ended up spending a week with jerry lewis behind the season. He gave us the full jerry yet tantrums but he couldn't get his eskimo pies. He did it with frank sinatra. He did tap dancing with the old tap dancers. He wrote around in a golf cart and came up behind people and honk the horn. Did the whole gave gave us. The whole jerry was it was terrific tastic but the other reason we defend jerry is i think we just find it funny. I mean who else had a career that again spanned seventy seventy plus years success in every medium from vaudeville up until you know cable television writer performer director actor actor singer i think i also i was born in that sweet spot of jerry's career in the in the i was around in the sixties when i would go to double features he's at the norwalk theater of hook line and sinker and the family jewels and the ladies man <hes> at at that time when you know your heroes were soupy sales allan sherman and and jerry lewis and had jerry lewis muscular dystrophy carnivals in my driveway i grew up with jerry lewis cinema in east meadow. I i remember the jerry lewis cinemas sure they were a chain of those lower now they were theaters became people start them into porno cinemas pretty not much. Do any of you have any insight stuff of why they fired him. After all those years you know there was i think thank the year before he was fired. He had a director named artie artie forest and he said no jerry. You know you know he would introduce the cameraman. The you know the cue card guy they made a mistake. It was a family and the camera was following around and said you know already our director. Oh my god you know if your seven eleven or the mcdonald's corp for the sunlen corporation. You're not gonna like that. You know he was getting a little ornery. You know and i think sponsors were start scheme ish if you remember after nine eleven <hes> i think george clooney and a bunch of stars put on telethon on h._b._o. And was on all the networks ran for two hours. It'd probably raise sixty million dollars money. Money is the whole telephone what i think it sort of became a thing of the past. It just didn't do it in a classy way. Also in the telephone was burt said you know as frank sinatra sammy sammy davis junior the later years. It was <hes> jack jones. It was moore maureen mcgovern you know so so the telephone was losing its luster and so that was part of it and burke says it was way was handled. Jerry was the executive producer. You don't just tell them we're changing. It's just six hours without telling him so that was the terrible part. You know he did raise as jerry would say two billion. That's with a b not an m for jerry's kids speaking volatile comics either one of you guys have any experience of of pat cooper who turned ninety today or jack carter jeff jeff. I'm looking at you. Speaking birthdays a shout out gary lewis is seventy four. Today is also a little off ought to have him on the podcast. That'll just depressing. I don't know i had a good experience with pat cooper. I met him when he was doing. Playboy play when the playboy channel how to show called comedy after hours. It was done like a roundtable like broadway. Danny rose listen i am. I told them i had like burt said. I had one of your albums. You know before ebay. If you went into a used record store and founded alba it was a big deal. Now you just sit in your pyjamas by said pat. I have a couple of albums and i found in for him and he was nice had lunch with the friars he was great. We love him but the the city story. I heard about jack carter. Was you know jack carter had the local had the local show on n._b._c. Just before your show of shows rose and the network gave all the ammo and all the promotion to sid caesar they said you know you really can't have this guest on with saving it for sid so oh he kind of held a grudge and jack hard grudges the thing ever wanted to say that's their office great stories about jack order so there at some party and jackets just needling said you know citizens like ninety and falling apart at this not in good health. Let's put it that way and he goes. You know if it wasn't for you and max sleep. Keep me off the air. I could have been this and mel brooks is area goes jack. You're a big star. Sid was a bigger star. Sixty years is let it go. I love it yeah. If why why in your opinion and everybody everybody disliked danny kaye i think george carlin <hes> can sum it up best you know he as a kid wanted to be the next george danny kaye performer who could literally do everything and he went to see him at the paramount theater in new york. It's kinda rainy day. Comes uh-huh backs goes out to backstage store. He's there with his autograph book and didn't even look at the kid and he goes. Here's a guy giving all his. It's time and energy to yousaf and wouldn't give me the time of day fuck danny kaye so george vowed that if he became famous he would never never fans in exactly the opposite funny. It's like <hes> franken. I had we've lost count of the amount of of guests who worked with danny kaye and all of the bernie copello jamie farr for two. Oh yeah i think he was bernie or jamie would say he would or somebody said. If you got to laugh he would grab your arms. Don't don't don't step on my. I think i heard here on your show. You know he's also like mike jerry one of those performers who do everything you know. He flew a plane. He perform surgery here. They crank right and mel token tells the story you know he prepares a gorgeous chinese meal at a walk in this kitchen before anybody you know somebody show showed up five minutes late. He throws the entire food. You know down the garbage disposal you know these guys were just perfectionists and they they wouldn't know settle for second best and i think if they took it out on everybody and another one. We've had on the show who everybody hated joey bishop well frank. We were saying about the great story. I think gary marshall told me this bill rescue told us to it's the same in every episode of every sitcom you you always have to play the evil twin usually in yes he's season three where they run. Nevada ideas and i think they're in a prison and one of the inmates looks like joey. Barnes and joey looks at the script and he goes hey. Why does he have more funny than i do. Ah either have you guys encountered jessil and your travels before my time. Just missing died in eighty one so i i made the book yeah yeah. It is a shame that some of us frank who may not like jessil but as someone who collects collects comedy recordings as heard him are many friars roasts including the friars events including the parking carcass he's brilliant and he really did have a way of words. He really was a master. You know and there's a great clip of him. On the mike douglas show he did an an old timers vaudeville show with rudy rudy vallee molly pecan ingestion jessil does hello mama and he's he's still had it until the favor him gilbert he. It's such a fan yeah. All mama mama you andrew sean join you the one that change the checks. Check your number. Hang mama injure. Did you get that power. You're right the the power mama that byron spoke ten languages off on how's how's your eyes. Are you seeing spots. Volume is i'll put your glasses on the spot tomorrow clearly wow i thought i had a lot of free time and before we get out of here. We'll plug the book the generously again bert. Tell us the tell us the sammy and frank story. If you can tell if you can if you can kind of condense it just to condense it again we made we made friends with sammy davis. We were in a current affair. <hes> we set maury povich over to the albert hall to interview him for his autobiography. I think it was called y. Me and all maury had to do was open the book and just read a chapter because the entire book was about sucking and fucking and devil worship maury maury this reading the chapter and just go sammy sammy sammy sammy would clap lapis hands and give that great laugh <hes> love sammy davis when he died <hes>. I got an invitation to his funeral and to the house afterwards so <hes>. I promised my boss said look. Let's get a hidden camera. Get me a small camera and i'll get a picture of frank sinatra over the box looking at the little buddy and so great i go to i go to to l. a. I often turns out the the the funeral is in public and it's being televised but forest forest lawn and the hidden camera they give me is the size of a boombox and so i'm sitting there. I'm in like the eighth row. Little richard is on one side of me. Casey kasem is on the other and i'm trying to lift the camera shot of the sinatra's to pay like is it six rows ahead of me and i'm trying to lift the camera to get a shot of sinatra. The back of his head and his lawyer catches me and comes over and and yelling at me at the funeral and little richard's go and you got caught highs last night so service ends and jesse jackson. I think it was at the pulpit and he says you know everyone will proceed to the back of the of the chapel when it's over and they sinatra gets up and he and his wife go out the front stubai jump up and grab the boombox hidden camera and i run up the aisle i burst through the doors and there's frank sinatra just getting into this limousine with barbara and i lift up the big boombox hidden camera and i go mr sinatra and i'm tackled by four forest lawn security guards. I'm on the ground. I'm on the dirt and they're all holding me down and sinatra looks at me and we make eye contact and he looked at me like i was a <unk> a piece of dirt little speck of shit that didn't even notice and he gets into the limousine. They shut the door. The limo goes up the hill around the corner disappears then all the forest lawn guys. Let me go wipe the dirt off their hands. They let me go so wound up at sammy davis junior house afterwards and i it was either liza minnelli. Was there a lot of celebrities there. I met it was either chita rivera marino. I don't remember which one it was. I got confused. Uh-huh agreed the moyer kept following me around sammy's house and i'm like i'm trying to get louis away from me so finally locked myself in the bathroom and i go wait. A minute glass is and i opened up the medicine chest and i started going through the medicine show look. We didn't find one and knows knows what he wants in life. I have to wait till one show up when i started the interview. You're both very sick man. I met her villages. You did at hard copy. I made the mistake of trying to be a comedian it was i guess we were doing an interview with came out in the newsroom and one of the producers had him and he was standing up on on one of the desks and he's got his leather jacket on his motorcycle boots and is jeans and he standard because he had he couldn't breathe the poor guy. That's very very sickly and i walk over in the producer says burt meet. Mr village has survey. Oh very nice to meet. You and i shake his hand. You know how you do. How are you and she says. Would you like an autographed eight by ten. Am i said nobody will take a four by five and he looks at me and just his version of crickets his breathing off. She'll mad about it. I felt bad about about it. You feel worse about that or searching for glass eyes and sammy's medicine glass is our fight sammy. What is it going to need them anymore. Memento i will find one on ebay. You'll see well. I know i'm going to die at my desk filling out cards for ronnie shelve interview. I don't know all right is that count as dying in show business digress dying in front of an audience. I met while you're shattered. You guys meet william shatner. I met him backstage at the bay harsh. Oh and he was obsessed. He could not stop talking about dick shawn dying on stage yeah. We try to get this shatner. He's you know the busiest man in show business but you know. I have an autograph from him. That says frank just wait. It'll happen so he's he's a man. After your <hes> your guys hearts with performers who died on stage. You should pay pendulum talks about he wants to go out that your pen figures just statistically mystically probably will go out that way since the amount of time that he spends on stage but it's interesting on our website this we have a dozen performers have died on stage since his we know since this year wild including two comedians today as a matter of fact chinese mascot at an amusement park was dancing and having a heat wave he dropped dead while dancing he didn't he didn't make the book because it was only a rehearsal and he wasn't on stage. You guys have standards the book wonderful gilbert's gilbert's gonna plug the book and you guys any other plugs burt. Your website is a lot of fun. I found that great article about richard deacon and joe flynn right. I was reading four in the morning. That's going to be our next book in search of perfecto. Tell us great scandals. Come back and we'll do a whole perfecto. Tell us episode so much. I didn't get to so i'm gilbert. Godfrey been gilbert gottfried amazing colossal muscle podcast with my co hosts sprang santo padre and today we've been talking to jet abraham and bird kerns earns hoots. New book is called the show won't go on the most shocking czar and historic orrick dance opera palmer's john stage a great read. You guys are <hes> your fellow travelers. We love you. Thanks thanks for this terrific. The book is fun and i've got about fifteen cards here. I didn't get to so you'll come back and we'll talk about red buttons and shaky and mickey redmond grandpa al and grandpa allen fred gwynne and everything else said melton and melton uh-huh. We'll do another one guys. This was a blast. Thanks very much all right. 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142: Toasters

Robot or Not?

09:20 min | 2 years ago

142: Toasters

"Uh-huh. John listener, Brian. Technically, listener, underscore Brian. If you get my drift, wants to know where you, okay. So ATP reviewed a bunch of toaster ovens. Brian wants to know your explanation for the spectrum of devices that we might say, begin with a toaster move onto a toaster oven and then become an oven. Is this hard? What the difference between a toaster a toaster oven oven. Well, toaster we had set that aside poster is too vague because I mean, I I, when we were talking about toaster reviews on on my other products, I called the kind where you put a piece of bread in and press a lever down than pops up. I call those slot toasters trusting. Some people just call those point toasters, but toaster it might be a toaster oven and it might be a slot toaster and you don't really know and basing that on the prevalence of the little black and decker toaster from our childhoods that will toaster oven as little tiny door on it. But it's it's not that much bigger than slot toaster, but a lot of people have those things are vague. It's all set that aside toaster oven. We note that doesn't have slots. It's got a little opening and you put stuff inside and it gets hot in there. It's like a little mini of that sits on your countertops. Yeah, the tricky Bard is a win, so you got toaster ovens. Some of them are really big. Like I see them the stork, Asian, I go the toaster oven. I'll has you do and check out the models of their some of course get, you know, they, they. Couple of our like four slices bread, six Lices, nine slices a certain point. They advertise how much the Turkey ways that you can cook in like coca fourteen pound Turkey. I also I like the idea that the creasing slices. I like the idea that there might just be a bin that you could put a a a whole loaf of bread in and it'll just like, suck them in one at a time and tells them and then spit them out. Those are the conveyor belt ones avenue rest those. Oh, I love those. Yeah, you get those. Although I actually don't love those because they're often miss set. So you have to retrieve your piece and then put it in again, and it has to take like four rides on the roller coaster before or like one and a half rides, which is worse. Oh, yeah, that is worse, right? You're right. That is the worst. Can you? Can I plug it before it disappears forever. Probably not. Can I Chuck it to the end. So that it only gets the the back half takes a little bit of frisbee skill. And you'd think that you'd go by size like after you get above a certain size is no longer toaster-oven is just a counter top oven of some kind. Right. That kind of expert. Any big, how big is the size? Like how? How many inches, how many inches deep, how many inches wide. I think you can go the more sort of operational definition because like the toaster part of them implies that you're able to use it as a toaster in some fashion as the most basic function being. Can you make toast? You can make toast in your full-size of it. It's just a terrible way toast. Sure. Takes a really long time. The toast probably be dried out because it takes a long come temperature during the time when it's rising up to that pitcher, your water out of the thing. And so it doesn't make good toast. And so I think once he would no longer use the appliance to make toast because it takes too long and does a bad job, even if it's still called a toaster oven, it's not anymore. Now, it's just a. A small oven and a lot of so-called toaster ovens in the toaster-oven I'll are past that size that you would never think to make toasted. And if you tried to be very say because it would take a long time, you get terrible toast. I wonder who uses those are those people who don't have an oven. Yeah, like countertop again, when advertising them you Turkey in maybe live in an apartment or something, don't you have a stove top? You don't have enough while by this you can find room on your counter. You have some kind of oven, but it's no longer any good or make toast and really don't don't roasted Turkey in a in a toy store and do what you gotta do if you don't have enough, and it's just don't roasted Turkey. Just don't buy Turkey. And for roasting say, well, you know, I've got a table just don't do it. Get a smaller cut of meat if you're going to, you know, I think some of those can do a reasonable job, especially the ones that have convection. I have little fans inside them right now. I'm not a Turkey, but like maybe you know, a small chicken or a couple of pieces of checking. Without it's just the Turkey that seems extreme even if it's a small Turkey that seems extreme to maybe like maybe just a Turkey leg, but it on put on the transit. Sure. So now the slot, let's go back to the slot toaster. So what you're saying is the toaster is sort of a more general description as far as you're concerned and the and the thing that we might call a toaster a regular toaster you would say is let's call a more descriptive sort of sub category, which is the slot toaster where you can push it down and and they, they're in their revenue, even test-drive on our house. And we say, go put it in the toaster. We don't say, put it in the toaster oven. It's understood what you know. Toaster can apply to either one context. Yeah, I suppose if you had both, then you might as somebody who we did have both when I was a kid for at least some of that time was the toaster and one was the toaster oven. But if you only have one, you're not gonna get the toaster oven confused with something else that the only half the one toaster I realized the other day this. This is a little bit of a sidebar, but my son really likes sour dough bread and he wrote really love, sour dough toast, and we get these kind of rough, artisanal sour dough loaves that are super like. Like long and wide. They're like the the pieces are not square. The pieces are like oval or even more extreme than that and so much. So that in our little two slot toaster for him to toast it, he has to toast the top and then turn it around and then the other side, that's no, it. He's here. He's been doing this for years, and I just just this weekend had the realization. I should buy one of those four slot toasters that we used to have where it's actually to guide cut the bread. Why? Well, the wide slots we used to have a toaster that was a wide slot toaster and that whole thing would fit in it and it would solve his whole problem. And we just I just Emma, terrible father and never even thought that we could get a wider toaster for my son's bread. Well, the real problem is once you get a toaster oven, you can lay those things down flat. They'll fit fine. I don't. I don't know if there's enough time in robot or not to explain why I don't have a toaster oven, but I honestly, I don't get it. I don't get the appeal of it. I, I have a microwave oven an slot. Toaster will say slot toast. I don't. I don't need. I don't need anything more than that. So the thing about the toaster-oven is this is why you need an addition to all those devices. Maybe you can ditch the slot. Toaster is that it's for things that would be no good in the microwave. You know, making toast Cinemax forget that. So you need something that's going to have a dry heat, but you don't want to heat up and don't want to wait for the full-size oven to heat up. And that's a lot of things like for example, leftover pizza for one leftover pizza. For one, you're not gonna wait to warm up your full size of and put it in the toaster totally done that. I have a pizza stone. I put the put the the coal pizza on the pizza stone. Put it on three fifty. Wait for it to be taken out. It's great. That's takes too long, much faster. Thank the toaster oven as a microwave for your oven. It is a smaller faster to heat up thing. It does the same job as the in less time. I guess what I would say is I've always lived in relatively small house with a relatively small kitchen, and I've never found the. The need for the things that a toaster oven is good at to outweigh the convenience and speed of slot toaster for toasting bread because toasting bread is by far the thing that gets done the most and it's very rare that I'm heating up a slice of pizza. You're right. In that case, a toaster oven would be more efficient than my other options, which are microwave, the pizza which I'm not gonna do eat it cold, which I might do and heated up at the which I also might too. Well, I think you got plenty of counter space. I've seen your kitchen. Well. It's different now though the right, this is the weight of like fifteen years living a kitchen without much counter space is now I'm kind of allergic to things that sit on countertops. Even though we do have the space for toaster oven. I don't know why slot toaster though, is also calling me. I'm intrigued by that idea. I think I have a good idea for a good Christmas gift for you. This apprised toaster-oven show up. You find a home for. Put on the countertop there. No robots scampering around out there. So there's room the t. robot needs a friend.

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Daily Nerd Brief October 3 2018

Talk Nerdy to Me

22:47 min | 2 years ago

Daily Nerd Brief October 3 2018

"Hey, listen. Happy news conflict day guys. That's right. New books about the day. Go to your local comic shop and pick up your favorite title. I am Troy, stigmas. The comics talk to me and I'm about to bring you all the nerdy news that you need to know. Since you don't wanna see me you, I'm gonna share my screen. I guess it helps minimize myself. We'll go down here in the bottom corner again. Little smaller. They were go. And we're all set. I issue here the issue I item to cover you guys. Remember that game dance dance revolution, right? The had the blue nine squares with the different Arizona, and you had to dance to match with the Aero's were on screen. Somebody had the great idea and that somebody has stampede ventures. They're gonna make a movie based off of dance dance revolution. How can you make a movie on that? You say, well, let me tell you. Is going to be based on the wildly popular video game. It's going to explore the world on the brink of destruction were the only hope is unite through the universal language of dance stop right there. I already don't wanna see it. This sounds like such a hoagie idea for a movie. I don't see this doing very well might even go straight to DVD. I, I'm so flabbergasted is Hollywood really out of that idea? Is that bad. Their stampede will partner with Todd Harris, Mark, marcum, Brandon entertainment, and the IP owner can NAMI wow. NAMI how much money they pay you to use this as. Yeah, maybe it will surprise me. I doubt it just reading the description were dance is the only thing that can save the world is on the brink of destruction. Dumb. I suggest you guys skip that one. Okay. Let's go to another movie. Venom venom coming out this week, and we will be doing a movie review on that on Thursday nights. It looked to be up late Thursday, early Friday. You can see what not just we think, but also other audience members. It's been getting mixed reviews. People will come out saying, hey, it was good and other people coming out and just trashing it saying it was garbage. I haven't seen too many reviews in the middle. It's one way or the other seems even. So it is still on track to break records this weekend for opening October. If it stays on track ill, make sixty to sixty five million. That's domestic. I think the record. Yeah, the wreckers gravity which had a little over almost fifty. Six eighty five point seven million. So if they can pull that off, that's not bad for movie. People have been talking smack about for quite some time. I've holding out hope. I liked Tom hardy, like most of the movies I've seen him in. I hope so this doesn't go the route of other Sony superhero movies and be kind of lackluster. Was it because they have plans to expand the Spiderman universe beyond just venom, they are talking about having other characters like. Let can't silver sable word talked about the other ones. I'd love to see a carnage. I, I'd like to see them maybe even bring Spiderman into one of those movies since they're mostly Spiderman characters. Anyway, venom, even those been getting bad press. It's on track to break October box office records. Sons of anarchy fans. I think I've told you already there had a spin off for the Mayans motorcycle club. It's called maya's EMC. They were one of the almost billons. They were one of the protagonists antagonists. They were one of the big groups and sounds anarchy that went up against the sons, mostly Latino based bike, gang there in southern California. Their first season on FX did pretty well. I mean better than expected and they already renewed it first season two. So we're going to a second season of the Mayans MC. It. This is a for it set post, Jack stellar. So you probably won't see Jackson. If you do it will probably be in a flashback. You might see some of the other sons of anarchy members. You might see a lot of the ones that are actually dead. Now in flashbacks also. I haven't actually watched it myself yet. It's on my list of things to watch. I'm so far behind on my DVR, but I've talked to people and they all seem to have a good things to say. So check out Mayans MC season one. So you'll be ready next year for season two. Here's some cancelation said news. This is proof that everything rubber Kirkman touches does not turn to gold outcast is been canceled on Cinemax after two seasons. Now you can't blame that solely on Bravo. Kirkman Cinemax some really dumb stuff here promoting it. Like they held season two for the season. Two finale following yet they held season two for couple years before they aired it. So any momentum at built those. He's one kind of probably died off. I didn't see a whole lot of promotion for outcast. A hyping they missed out on that. It's a good comic. I been keeping up somewhat with the comic is not bad. It's you know about demon possession type stuff. The comic book currently on hiatus the next issues coming out in December. I. You guys can pick up the trade paperbacks and catch up on them really quick, but you won't get a third season. They waited so long. Like it says here it, it made it difficult because LA, the actors contracts and lapsed and other things happen that Cinemax did not help. Outcast at all. So no more outcast. Let's jump over to the world of collectibles. If you played metal gear solid, you probably recognize this character. I hear psycho mantis. This is a statue by I four figures is going for like I says, five seventy five is on preordered. There's payment plan as mid arrival July to September twenty nineteen, and I will put a link to this in the descriptions. So my auditory only podcast friends can check this out at their leisure. This psycho mantis like it's a, it's twenty on twenty six inches high is just if you played the game, it's kinda chilling to see this. This figure doesn't have a lot of. Interchangeable stuff. I mean, it's just got the one head sculpt and you can't change anything. So what you see what you get. Let me show you some pictures from sideshow on psycho mantis. Yeah, he's a bad dude, mind control. Can cause the loosens. Just overall somebody, you really wanna have to fight, but, hey, guess what you might have to. I don't know why they gave us a gratuitous picture of his, but. But there it is. He's got that. Luxurious, I guess you'd call it night wing type, but. But yeah, it's a really detailed sculpt. I can't find anything really bad to say about it. Oh, just knows that there's a body wrapped up underneath him. The only the only thing I would say about this figure compared to other stuff from sideshow is there's no no interchangeable pieces. It can't be customized by it all. But other than that, it's a really nice piece. Psycho mantis by I four figures. Game of thrones fans. While you guys were waiting for the next season, which I believe twenty nineteen or say. Now maybe even twenty twenty. You can pick this this nice piece up. If you watch the last season when Sarah Syed took the throne, this is her crown is a replica of her crown by factor, entertainment, going around two hundred bucks. Payment plan. Preorder comes out April to June of twenty nineteen. Nice, little touch. They got here is the stand that the crown sitting on is actually for iron swords popping out of the stand in the crown rest on the hilts. It's a nice little conversation piece. It is a pretty much exact replica of the crown. She has on the show. So there you go game of thrones guys. Okay, guy or the bio boosted armor collectibles this is the guy three ultimate version by prime one studios. It is part of their ultimate premium master line series, and it is limited to only seven hundred fifty pieces worldwide slow pricey. You know over twelve hundred bucks one thousand to forty nine, but they do have a payment plan so you can start making payments. Now it's on preorder. Estimated arrival is not coming out for some time guys. It's not coming out till February twenty twenty two April Tony twenty. You got plenty of time to kick that payment plan and get paid off for it comes out. This is a thirty two inch tall statue, including from the base top, his head, the actual. The bust. The comes with it. You see here that I didn't tell you that it does come with a bust. It's fourteen inches tall. Cool thing is it does hasn't interchangeable parts like most sideshow stuff to interchangeable right arms to change left arms, interchangeable pair of high frequency swords extended. You see. And bust supposedly from where I'm reading this bust you can swap out with the torso up here so you can completely change his his stance, which is kind of cool. You know, he's, he's already beaten Greg goal here, and you can either have him San over with swords or arms crossed his bad ass pose. The show you some pictures of this up close like. K. Harry is the source of on top of his adversary. Yeah, this is a. You got something cut off the back of guys head there. It's a if you'd like guy ever. It's a very good representation of that character. Here's the bust. I'm guessing pops off the stand here somewhere so you can pop it onto. The actual figure. Look at this. I'm guessing it's going to be right underneath the the chest area here. Pipe pops off that stand and you can put him actually, you can't put them on here because this is the pose from that bus. So here is that bust piece on the body rather than the normal piece. So I kinda liked that the arms crossed. Yeah, I like that pose and it's pretty seamless. I can't really see maybe, right. Here's the line. I don't know. But yeah, you can't really tell they did a good job. Yeah, here's a swap -able parts arm, outstretched, arm down, harm, kind of crook that a nine degree angle. Yeah, yeah, guy refines. You don't like this? I like it and I'm not a guy retain. Okay, guys, let's go on to he man Mondo who is more known for basically they're Suk screen. They're prints and stuff they are putting out a high end action figure line from he man. Yeah, they are one six scale bright now they're putting out prince Adam slash, he man as you can see, there's tons of accessories here, couple of different sets of hands, lots of weapons axes, swords guns. He has guns a shield couple different heads, and they're saying the outfit a lot of cloth pieces instead of this, the molded plastic, make it more realistic. I kind of like when they do that. This thing has over thirty points of articulation. That is crazy. You can pose him all kinds of different ways. They're also gonna be putting out one for skeletal Mana arms Merman and more. I'm not sure what the end more is, but. He man is a very popular license. The human toys typically go than he meant even has its own little convention where they talk about all the coming stuff. So I imagine these will be gone pretty quick. So if if your team fan, you might wanna check out Mondo and get these when they come out for cell. All right guys, toys r. us toys r. us is now saying. They're not going to bend go bankrupt. They have opted out of the bankruptcy auction. They don't want to sell the name or intellectual properties to go with it. They are intending to revive the business, the Toys R Us and babies R Us brands. Crazy. They got. I mean, it's not like they weren't getting bids. They had several qualifying bids that they turned down because none of those allow them to revive the company brand. The are dead set on bringing toys, r. us back. And when I was growing up up until you know, they went belly up or just recently they were the Goto place for toys. I, if you if you thought toys that was pretty much what you you did you went to toys r. us. They closed over eight hundred stores in the US no word yet on how they're going to revive this. I know they, they wanna maintain the registry and the online sales and keep their licenses active because I have a ton of licenses associated with toys r. us. So they're going to invest in create new domestic retail operating businesses that will continue to operate under the brand name. We'll see stuff like that doesn't happen overnight. So don't get too anxious. You might see it sometime next year. So toys r. us may become back. Okay. If you watched force awakens which most of you probably did judging by the box office, you noticed that Princess Leia was no longer Principia. She was general lay or Ghana never really explained when or how she got that promotion. Well, if you pick up the new Star Wars comic number fifty, five blew it comes out today. You'll get to see that Marv every since Disney bought marvel and Star Wars. Disney based said from this point on, there's no, you know, everything that we do from here on is going to be considered canon no extended universe and all this other garbage they used to have. If it's an official product, it will be cannon. Marvel. Comics is cannon. So the things are having a marvel comics. You can write it in stone. That is what is. Has happened. So if you I'm not going to spoil it too much for you. Just pick up issue number fifty. Five, you'll get to see Princess laya be promoted to general and and Lucan. Han get promotions also. So you can check that out and see what they got promoted to when they report back to Monmouth MMA way back. Yeah, that's that's kind of interesting. Like I said, pick up Sauber's comics. They are considered canon. Now. Fight club. I rule if I club is we're going to talk about fight club. They had the the movie, of course, based on the novel by Chuck palahniuk. Very popular movie did very well. It was a really good movie after that. They had a dark horse comic book series for fight club too. So Tyler Durden in it. A lot of the other characters came back and that did so well for them, they decided, hey, let's do fight club three. So January twenty nineteen. You're gonna see fight club three, the. His his little group kind of changed. There are going to be called rise, are dying. Now. Yeah, it's going to be a twelve issue. Maxine Aries, mostly revolving around Marla tree guys. Remember Marlet he watched the movie. It. His project may him like I told you is now being called riser die still have crazy crazy Tyler Durden. But you know the gave a name to in fi- club to give a name to the narrator. Battles are so got 'bout as our and Durden in Marla all mixed up in there. So January, thirtieth twenty nineteen fight club three. We'll see if it can follow on the trails of the the first and second. I hold out hope. Harry Potter RPG. They exit somebody accidentally, are they probably do it accidentally somebody leaked footage of the new Harry Potter RPG. Kinda what they've told us as it centers around eight in eighteen hundreds around a new student. Fifth year student, he goes on to explore some stuff in the forbidden forest with one the professors. ELS are fig. Supposed to be an open world explorations of basically anything in the game. You can interact with you. Wanna cut down a tree. You're supposed to be cut down the tree. You want to cast spells on just innocent people Santa by, you're supposed to be able to do that. So I guess that open world exploration, you perfect. Your spells. Obviously you don't just walk out there with a handful spells. You have to just like a real student practice in learn them, spells potions you fight off supernatural enemies explorer Hogwarts. A branching storyline, you can choose all kinds of different ways. The go, pick different allies enemies. Pick your house alignment, and your moral alignment is sounds for Harry Potter fans is sounds like heaven is basically putting you as a student in Hogwarts and who what Harry Potter fan has not wanted to do that. Walk down the halls of Hogwarts, making your own enemies, allies, learning whatever spell she wanted. It sounds crazy. It's almost going to be like Harry Potter meets world of warcraft type. I I'm really looking forward as I might actually might actually play this. I clip line world of warcraft because it was too much time, suck in real life got in the way. So looks like I have something else now that I'll be able to waste my time on. Harry Potter RPG. Okay. That is the last of the articles. I have you guys. Oops, I will. Wow, I can't get this done right Kelly. I will maximize myself. Yet there we are. Technology is a great thing when you know how to use it. Obviously, I don't. And there we go. I am centered again. Okay. As always I want to thank you guys for watching. 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Oculus, Facebook, and the Revolution That Swept Virtual Reality

Inquiring Minds

48:23 min | 1 year ago

Oculus, Facebook, and the Revolution That Swept Virtual Reality

"It's Monday, February eleven twenty nineteen and you're listening to inquiring minds, I'm enjoying Scotus. Each week. We bring you a new in depth exploration of the space for a science, politics and society, collide, we endeavor to find out. What's true what's left to discover? And why it all matters. You can find us online at enquiring dot show on Twitter at enquiring show and on Facebook just going to be important in a few minutes. You can also get an adversary of the show by supporting US Patriot dot com slash inquiring minds, and you describe the show on itunes or any other podcasting. So no, this is not a show directly about Facebook. But it is a show about how Facebook might be influencing the way the technology shapes our future, so long time listeners of the show might remember that I live in the bay area. And also that I'm really intrigued by virtual reality, both as a neuroscientist and a culture vulture. I'm really curious to see how virtual reality is going to shape the way, we think the way our brains function alternately if we spend enough time in it and how we interact with each other. Now, many of you might be familiar with Amar's law. The idea that often we overestimate the effect of technology in the short term, but underestimates affect in the long term, and that certainly is true of Facebook. I think when it first came out if you're anything like me you thought. Well, yes, or sure that's kind of cool, and you know, maybe I'll spend a little bit of time checking it out, but I had no idea that it would affects so many different facets of our lives as it does today. In fact. Even perhaps having a hand in shaping world politics. So when I found out that Facebook bought Oculus, I must say I was a little bit concerned wondering how this acquisition might affect the development of the technology, and what Facebook's interest was in VR so tender send it more deeply I read a book by journalists. Blake Jay Harris called the history of the future Oculus Facebook and the revolution that swept virtual reality, which just came out. And I have to say it reads like a thriller if any of you are millions with the trilogy called Griffin and Sabine it's this beautiful set of books where you get to open up each page and each page is a correspondence between these two people. So you literally get to open up an envelope and take out a letter and read it feels very voyeuristic and somewhat taboo, I have to say that reading this book was a little bit like that. Because you get access to Mark zuckerberg's, Email among other things and. There's a foreword by author Ernie Cline of ready player one in it. He talks about how Oculus influenced him to write the book. And ultimately, we learn how his book influenced Blake Jay Harris to write this one. Blake Jay Harris. Welcome to enquiring minds. Thanks so much for having me. So this is a really fascinating story. I think for a lot of us about sort of how Oculus became the dominant player in VR, and then was acquired by Facebook. I think it was a big surprise to the gaming world. So let's start there. What do you think set Oculus apart in the very early days? Yes. So let's go back in time to twenty twelve so wow, seven years ago now and at the time, I think just gets to what should accurate part the sticking at the time was at virtual reality was this technology this fascination had died in the nineties. There had been a lot of tempts headsets and other devices in the nineties, and they definitely. Were not successful from an economic standpoint. And really there were less than one hundred people around the world are or maybe a little over a hundred people academics that than VR. Doozy astute were still interested in this one of those people who was interested was a teenager named Palmer lucky who would go on to found Oculus. And so, you know to get at the heart of your question. I think a lot of it has to do with prevailing. Perception of the are was time. And that is initially what set Oculus apart that they believe saw something fascinating and opportunity where no one else was really looking at more one of the great at passing aspects of the story here. And you know, it is fact rather than fiction is the forward by Ernie Kline. So a lot of our listeners know that I'm a big fan of ready player. One just the book that Ernie Cline road about away SIS, which is virtual reality in the future set in twenty forty. Five and the kind of the future in which it said, you know, people live in these kinds of trailers and very cut of almost cliche. Now Oculus also in a sense started in a trailer. This is being fact and fiction. I felt like I was Delton embarrassment of riches when it came to fax to deal with and that was one of the early ones. The fact that omra lucky who was nineteen at the time when he founded Oculus, he like Wade watts. The protagonists agree player was living in a trailer, though, his was parked outside of his parents home, and he had basically retro gut it and retrofitted it to be dislike this laboratory devoted to be our headsets. And I'm glad that you're a big fan of of Ernie clients book and of the forward because that for me was a huge inspiration to write the book. So it was great to get him to write this forward. You know? I like I said back in twenty twelve people were not really sticking about VR. And I am certainly amongst those people who were not thinking about it. I thought it was something that had got away that would not really be part of my lifetime that would just be atropine science fiction. Then I read Ernie's book, and there's a lot of things that are great about it. But, but I think that one that inspired me to investigate this technology here and end up reading this book with just how feasible it all was within a reasonable amount of time. This wasn't you know, a hundred years into the future. This was something that could be happening now anything that's what's really surprising to a lot of people. I mean, anyone who hasn't experienced Oculus some of these technologies really still sees us as being very far behind and even people who have seen. I've played some of those those games innocuous like the ones where you're using the haptic hands, and you have to do surgery on an alien, and it's still pretty clergy people. Tell me that's a Canadian word. But it kind of means that it's like. Creek worse. So. What I mean by that is that you know, that it still doesn't quite it. It's not so forgettable like that the fact that you're in this other space that you can just just kind of think that you're in a new reality. And yet there's so many aspects of that experience that really point to the fact that it's it's either very close, or it's already here in terms of being able to you know, sort of experience this alternate reality as truth. Right. Well, this is probably the usually do on your show. This is very unscientific. This is just my over-simplification of pain that I would expect people at Oculus or valve or itchy or wherever else. They make me our headsets and software disagree with. But you know, I sort of just Aikawa me between. Interactive VR, which is computer generated video games. Like what you're describing conducting surgery even with your hands and on alien, then there's also a cinematic sixty videos, which would be the quivalent of there was a three hundred sixty degree camera wherever you are. Right now that recorded this converse that was recording our conversation than you could go back and put on headset and relive the experience which in that case policy that fun. But when you think about that in terms of, you know, a child's second birthday party in grandma and grandpa can't be there. Then you send this this video for lack of a better word, and that one is the one where I feel like you kind of are the forget that you're not you forget that you're still actually at home because it, you know, the the quality the resolution still leaves a little bit to be desired, but you do feel like your place in the the analogy. I always think of and thought of the first time I tried one of those was from. Harry Potter you a Harry Potter fan. So you know, when you have that kind of experience it's like stepping into the Pence eve, and you're like stepping into another person's memories and into their reality. So so, yeah, so it some ways it does feel like we're very close to this year in some ways, it is clearly, but but either way I am very surprised by how much further along than we would have thought back in two thousand twelve. Yes, let's talk a little bit about why. There was a sort of seeming stagnation like it seemed like there was know an entry point in the nineties, and that that this was going to become a reality. And then it didn't. And is that what do you think it was that kind of caused this this sort of stagnation, and what is it is it Palmer lucky? It's just a confluence of other things. What kind of brought us now into this kind of exponential pace. Definitely was not just Palmer lucky. There was such a confluence of vents that. Even with just the beginning of this book, and with Oculus that that kind of put into this different position. And I guess the second. But I think that one of the other key thing reply to do really big key things one is that most of the technology that Palmer was able to leverage or upon us leverage. The advances that had been made with screens at other technologies for cellphones or smartphones. So back in the ninety s we didn't have such high resolution screens, the purchase cheaper cheaply or or gyroscopes that were so affordable, which are at least of the tracking the visual display component of virtual reality. So if you are a beneficiary of this technology that seemed unrelated at the time the other it's it's really the combination of hardware and software. You know, I think that typically when we think of virtual reality, we think of the headset. We think of the hardware. But in less, you have something like, you know, something fun to play or something fun to watch or something fun to do. It's kind of worthless. And because you had this chicken and egg problem of hardware and software. You know, there's no point in making software. There's no hardware this oh in making hardware if you don't have anything play on it that led to the stagnation as well. At least from like an entrepreneurial standpoint because those are two different challenges to solve and. That's where sort of one of the most fortuitous events that set Oculus into motion happened where John carmax the legendary programmer known for his work. It software doing doom quake and wolfenstein. He was trying to release old game a sequel of doom and wanted was working on the software looking for hardware back in twenty twelve and you know, Sony made a headset. That wasn't even really VR. It was more like a television experience not to your face. And there was some other products by companies like imagine. And then all those things were very expensive. And he found Palmer this hack this hobbyist in this hacker who had a headset that was much cheaper and karmic really loved ended up showing off at the video game trade show e three so that propelled Oculus into motion. And I think it really touches on part of why there was that stagnation because you know, without the hard. Where you know, you need this combination of hardware and software. Yeah. So I want to talk a little bit about kind of your process because you know, your your books in some ways read like I have to admit their times. It just made me feel like I was reading someone's emails that I shouldn't have accessed. And you know, it's like you. It was like totally titillating. But at the same time it made me feel like, wow. Like, should I really be privy to this? But you know, hey, we live in a whole new world now. So tell me a little bit about what your process was in terms of getting the information for your book. I'm just so honored by that comment feeling like you were voyeur. Titillated by these things that you maybe shouldn't have had access to all the good news. Is that all of the emails text messages, everything in the book were given to me almost always by the source? But at least all legally, there was not some crazy hacking or leaking that led to that. But yeah. So for me, I had ridden. One good previously called council worries about the battle between Sega Nintendo in the early nineties, the behind the scenes corporate battle and through the process of writing that book, I sort of found my voice, and and create a book that was the kind of nonfiction that I want to read and the way that I most often summarize by objective in writing specifically with that book was too, right? Was to write technology stories in a way that my grandma with appreciate, you know, she she's not very familiar with technology. But by making it about the people and the larger ideas, and then sort of along the way, you're teaching the reader. About the technological component. And so for me, I guess that's just a long winded way of saying that for me to wanting to two character-driven stories access is everything I want to tell the reader how people were feeling and what you know recreate the conversations that they had sort of cinematic aspect of it. And then, you know, again with with council worst story happened twenty years ago when Email was just in its early stages than here. You know, I I try to figure out how big of a role that should play. And then ultimately, it was kinda sticking it know back in. Beck in the nineties and in counselors, a lot of the book focused on you know, meetings, and in a way Email is kind of like the the virtual or surrogate meeting, especially for you from Business Store because a lot of things we're getting decided over that. And so initially I had reached out to Oculus in the summer of twenty fourteen and then took fourteen months for me to get the access that I was hoping to get which was essentially unlimited and exclude or you know, I was the only author that they were working with and that that was given access in February twenty sixteen one month before they launched the first product, and it was just really fascinating to be in touch with these people as they were launching a groundbreaking product. And also this was after they had sold the Facebook. So they were dealing with a lot of negative sentiment about having sold the Facebook. And then also first year did not go as hoped. So then at some point. Oh, you're access was pulled. So tell us about that. We've mentioned Palmer lucky he was the teenager who founded Oculus, and he did so an shortly after founding Oculus he started working with three other co founders Brendan read Michael antonoff, Nate Mitchell who all were close friends and had worked together. I I was in touch with the four of them as well as many of their colleagues and things were generally going pretty well and then in September of two thousand sixteen so, you know, seven months after I had really been living with these people to a degree. Palmer lucky was became as wired. Call him the worst person in Silicon Valley, and that was based on the some articles that came out at originally it began with the Daily Beast article that said Palmer lucky was seat was the billionaire who was secretly funding. Trump's mean machine. And the insinuation from that headline and all the articles have followed that Palmer was a financing a troll factory. Putting out a nasty memes during the twenty sixteen presidential election. Most of that was not true. But anyway, it made a Palmer was not very popular into the valley with certain consumers and also with certain segment of the company and six months later. He ended up being fired. And then there was sort of this odd situation where he was clearly someone who I had been in touch with and remained in touch with. And and and very, you know, not not surprisingly, but very sharply Facebook and people that were still at Facebook headed very different narrative of how the company began and Palmer's role and then eventually. Through continued dishonesty about why he exited what I basically called them on that. Because I felt that I knew the real story and they're in their version he chose to leave and to just go onto something else. They ended up cutting off my access after two years and. I guess it was kind of Neville, but dealing with Facebook was one of the more interesting experiences during this process, and particularly for me because I had I have experienced calms people or just individuals who who strongly embellish their perspective strongly embellish, the facts, or, you know, do a lot of spin which in a way is their job. And while it's annoying a journalist to have to dissect that, you know, it's kind of par for the course. But I I'm not used to outright lying, and that was a lot of what I experienced with Facebook. Yes, why don't you tell us about that? Because I think that that actually is a theme that runs through the entire book is the sense that Silicon Valley is often. Driven by a lot of hype and the founder that discovered something and changed the world in his trailer is a part of that. And so, you know, I think that that's what a lot of ways for us to understand where we're going to go with virtual reality. And how these things get made. We kinda have to understand too. The the interests of these different companies, and how now a days people have talked about. I mean Facebook is another example of a company that started in someone's dorm room, right? And now has become this this force. It has very different things to to consider. I think for sure reality has some of the same potential issues down the road where you know, one of the reasons as you mentioned in the book that Facebook was interested in Oculus rift was not just so that they can provide a gaming console because this could be the next major revolution. In terms of you know, insofar as smartphone has revolutionized our society so to VR, right? And central to that is by Mark berms own admission believe this is in the prologue to the book. And it's something that he's said in other places, but key felt like he missed out on mobile with Facebook and partially due to timing with Wednesday spoke astounded, but in a way where competitors like apple and Google really got in early and clearly found a lot of success with the hardware in the software side of mobile with building a platform that was something that he felt that stays book missed out on and an opportunity that he saw with Oculus for virtual reality. Then also with automated reality, which is similar to actual reality except images overlaid in the real world as opposed to being immersed completely in a different world. We all want to be able to practice mindfulness every day. But sometimes it can be hard when we're overwhelmed with work and other aspects of life. Well, there's an app called blinking that can help blinking is the only app that condenses thousands of nonfiction books into the best key takeaways and need to know information. 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I spelt B L I N K. I S T. Blinking dot com slash minds to start your free seven-day trial. Blinking dot com slash mines. Yeah. And on top of that. There's this other side of on this podcast. We really liked to delve into how society is being changed by science technology and Palmer lucky is alleged actions in twenty sixteen in the fall twenty sixteen seemed to have had an outside affect on potentially getting Trump elected. I mean, that's sort of how my reading of it is is that there was this influence, and sort of what the rule that Facebook to play a role played in that in terms of Cambridge Analytica and sort of other other practices. So can you talk a little bit about like what influence you think Palmer had why he had it? And and does that have anything to do with his technology, or is that just something that isn't aside and a coincidence for sure I can talk a lot about that. As that ended up becoming a large part of the story. And a lot of ways why the book ended up taking two years long. To write than originally planned. I wanted to kind of get back to something that I thought tied together earlier point just in terms of like the whole Facebook of it all which is something I think all of us should be conscious nowadays. And also with Facebook similarities with Google apple allow these other big tech companies. But when we talked about why these companies failed in the nineties it was from a business perspective. It was that they purely couldn't make enough money. And part of the reason that Oculus sold to Facebook was that Facebook was willing to invest not only a few billion dollars in the acquisition. But also in continued development with with the Oculus rift and later with Oculus, go and quest and all these other things, but basically actually does not have to turn a profit for a very long time, which as a VR fan, I like, but as a Facebook skeptic, it worries me because it just speaks to that. There's you know, they're going to recoup that money. Elsewhere down the line by bringing people Bisley finding. Other ways to monetize, which we know typically they do so with data better way. That's a long winded way of pressing you. So I'm curious. I I wouldn't say that Palmer lucky did not have an outsized role at all in the election. Trump. What what are you are you referring to or what made you feel that way? I mean, it just just knowing that he, you know. Well, at least that I don't know how much of this is is truth. You can tell me, but this idea that he was funding some of these troll attacks, and whether or not those had an influence on the decisions that people made the voting booth. So for example, tearing down Hillary Clinton, you know, I I don't know to ever. So I have strangely become an expert in his topic. And talk to a lot of people that I never expected to nor particularly want to to in my life, including folks like Milo Yiannopoulos who was ten generally involved in the endeavor and with the reporting of what happened with Palmer. But essentially there what happened was there is a sub Reddit on red. Called the Donald which was like, Oregon, which is still like home to a lot of Ravin Donald Trump fans, and it certainly gets rowdy in there. It's not it's not a place that I subscribe to. But anyway to two moderators from the Donald wanted to start a 4._0._1. see political group with the plan with the goal of bringing a basically putting up mean like images onto billboards in reality. So there was no internet component to this organization that they started called nimble America and Palmer donated I think ninety one hundred dollars or you know, it was reported as ten thousand dollars to help pay for the legal fees of them setting up that organization, and they put up one billboard in Pennsylvania that had a character like a cartoonish image of Hillary Clinton and a headline or copied it said too big to jail and. Is clearly not a pro Hillary billboard. But it also is not like a very distasteful one which is relevant because of how reported, and you know, what what I think you probably remember reading that. As if Palmer head finance some sort of like troll army that was going out and putting memes doing all these terrible things. And the you know like none of that actually happened. If you are. You know, it's totally fair to dislike Palmer for donating money to an organization that wanted to put up billboards of candidates that you don't like, that's that's I see that as completely reasonable. But the reporting that happened was absolutely not aligned with any of what I have found to be true. And and for me that was like a formative experience just seeing. How how much you know, basically to me? It was almost like fake news and action. And I that's a phrase I hate, especially as a journalist because it has, you know, really lead to a lack of trust in our institutions. But at least in that in this case, I felt like I had a front row seat to the destruction of someone's reputation for reasons were. Mostly fictional? Yeah. And so. Thank you for clarifying that because I think that for a lot of us when we think Palmer lucky we think, oh, you know, founder of Oculus. But then also did this very bad thing. And as you put it it sounds like. It's an exaggeration of how bad the thing was that. He did given the sort of media attention. Actually, I like ice spent over, you know, I guess it's been it's been over two years now since that whole thing happened, and I've spent like at least like twenty hours, I think talking to the founder of nimble America, which was not so much just for the book, but partially just for me because I I really don't like the current administration in our at our current president's just trying to sort of understand like where this guy is coming from. But initially it was largely because I wanted to make sure that if I were writing what my research was leading me to believe that I was not being somehow the because the coverage was very much. There was no empty. There was no ambiguity in. How it was reported. That Palmer was funding white supremacists. Like that was how it was reported. So I wanted to make sure that. These people were not white supremacists. And they absolutely are not and going back through like, you know, records and one of their biggest challenges beating the two thousand of America who had been moderated Donald was to keep white supremacists. Off of the Donald, you know, we could have a conversation about why what's premises were. So drawn to the Donald first place, but, but at least from everything that I've learned in my two years of research there is so little truth. What was reported, but it in a way almost become sacked because you have so many outlets. Reporting this. I remember just wants looking at this list of like the first twenty five outlets reported. You know, it starts off with the daily saying Palmer lucky is the billionaire secretly funding. Trump's me machine, then our second takes one step further to Palmer lucky is the billionaire secretly funding Trump's racist mean machine, and it just sort of game of telephone the estimates with each headline more sensational and a little bit pushing the inaccuracy further, and that alone was very alarming to me. But then also just look at this list of like twenty five headlines. The alarming was just like why are there twenty five stories on this? No, no, one is doing any original research, and it's just basically just copying pasting something else. That's someone else. Did I would have liked to see the original work, much better? But also, it's just kind of interesting in this in our current age that so many stories say nothing different. And I guess depends on where you get news. From like I understand from. Economic standpoint why this happens, but it's just kind of learning. Yeah. So. With without getting too far down a line of reply all episode. We could leave them to tell us about the Donald. But I do want to one of the reasons I was interested in this in part is because it kind of also speaks to some of the issues that you raise in your book about just kind of intellectual property, and how that would seem to be a big fight now. And of course, there's billions billions of dollars steak or we were just talking the election of president at stake. These the stakes are so huge people are going to own different aspects of it or think they own different aspects of it. And there will be some arguments about that. So the kind of got gets me to this know maks lawsuit. So can you tell us a little bit about sort of the crux of the issue was there, and sort of how that influences I'm really interested in how sort of the results of of that lawsuit, and so forth are going to influence kind of the way that Silicon Valley and how intellectual. The property is viewed in the future. Sure, absolutely super fascinating stuff. So remember when I was taking us back in time and kind of get into the origins of Oculus. Certainly it starts with Palmer in that trailer building headsets, but Oculus wouldn't have happened. Without like, I mentioned John karmic, and John karmic was an employee of of its off wear which is owned by Cinemax, and John karmic is also a very outspoken proponent of open source snus and sharing. He's he is anti patent to the extent that his contract with Cinemax actually has a special provisions that he is allowed to share his work with other companies and other people and to talk about, you know, talk about the technical details during his famous three hour, long, note card keynote speeches. So that gets to an interesting idea being that I think I think they're Mike conclusion. From this. So you know, I I don't want to infiltrate your too much. It's very obvious that John karmic helped Oculus, and it's also very obvious that John carmax contract was set up. So that he can help Oculus, and there would be no legal issue. But after initially there was this close relationship between John karmic and Cinemax Oculus, and they were trying to work out an agreement where zen Amax would invest in Oculus and. Get equity in the company, but the people agenda Amax had thinking of virtual rally much more like mine was at the time which was that VR is kind of stupid or it's not potentially profitable. So that ended up falling apart, and they even told John to stop working on VR because they didn't think there was any money to be made. But then when I guess it was like a year and a half or two years later. Oculus for three billion dollars than max came out of the woodwork and ended up suing Oculus for a lot of things. They sued up Palmer by name than also carmax and Brendan reap the CO vacuous than Oculus Facebook end. There was a trial that happened in January of twenty seven teen twenty seventeen and so one of the he claims made by Cinemax was that in addition to you know. Accusing Oculus slash John karmic of literally stealing code like essentially like copying and pasting work that John had done Cinemax done. There was also this idea of non literal copying, which is a really thorny conceptual issue. Let alone a legal issue, which is basically that you know, it's not saying the code came from another place from another person. But it saying that they're the idea of their approach to the code is what is valuable and. So I think after the case John car analogy of like. Talked about storytelling and how like basically the hero's journey like that. It's almost as extras trying to copyright the hero's journey, and therefore every story that has a hero's journey would be not literally copying this template. When in reality. What is what is usually copyrighted characters in the specific storytelling? Details. Fortunately, the Oculus was not Oculus and Facebook in Palmer, and Brendan Karnak were not found guilty of that. But, but it did seem to be potentially setting a dangerous precedent that that was even grounds for a lawsuit. One of my favorite parts of that lawsuit. That reporting was the bicycle analogy that you wear. This is really good. So here's the lawyer saying if this jury finds that Oculus stole virtual reality technology from Cinemax approving upon that technology doesn't make it yours. Does it? He's asking Mark, Zuckerberg and soccer Berg responds. I don't know. I disagree with the premise of your questions. So it's kind of hard to get on top of that the Laura's. Okay. Well, let's make it real simple. If you steal my bike, and you paint it and put a bell on it. Does that make it your bike? Berg is like, no. But I think algae here is too simplistic and Mark Zuckerberg comes back with, you know, this would be like someone who created a piece of like a bar that might go on bike. And then someone built a spaceship out of it. Yeah. There's there's very little that. I agree with Mark Zuckerberg on, but I do in there and significantly, you know, first and foremost, I consider myself a career, so in general, I tend to align more with the I guess like the plaintiffs in these sorts of situations with corporate situations, I'm kind of sympathetic to people with copyright claims. But this one is the idea of non literal copying is kind of garbage. Unless maybe there's a more concrete example. But might change my mind, but I think sucker Berg is not off base there with that Larry spicing analogy. Yeah. So I mean, I guess that gets me to the core of what I'm really asking here, which is how is going to change the way that Silicon Valley and these kinds of innovations work in the future because you know, these to bring virtual reality to everybody's reality is gonna take still a lot of teamwork. It's going to be it's going to require a lot of people just like anything does. And with these technologies, even though we might gravitate towards one particular. Founder Palmer lucky. Ultimately, the story of your book is that where we are today happen because of all these other people because of this huge Facebook machine, which has so much money to devote to this and resources and so forth. And so and now there's also this kind of trend amongst these big companies like Facebook and apple and Google to sort of keep their employees locked in. I mean, it used to be that they would just buy up. Whatever startups those people would go and try to to start. But now there's like a lot of these rulings have led to people being really afraid that they could get sued. If they start anything that is remotely related to anything. They thought about while working for one of these big companies. So what do you think about that? I think it's very real Terry scary. I mean, I was just thinking take great example is that show Silicon Valley that I'm sure several religious or familiar with. But just you know, the protagonist or one of the protagonists that show created an app while he was a Google company and all he deal the only. Overlap between him and that company was once uploaded on the computer and they ended up suing him. So clearly they had very little merit to it. But, but I think that the line of the line of sticking you're talking about it's very important. And it reminds me of a conversation I had early on when I was working on this book, I met with of these. I was meeting with several VC's to see what their perspective was on the are where else was headed. And and I remember asking them, you know, do they see this because there's a lot of people made a parallel between the, you know, the the the potential platform play of VR and similar with like this was like a new internet age or smartphone. So I was curious if they believe that there would be you know, companies that really broke through in the same way that we saw on the internet era, whether it was like, Amazon or EBay or any of these these small startups that ended up growing and scaling very quickly. And they told me that no that they saw this rich. Getting richer situation. And I think that that has proven thus far to be the case where it's still very early. And I think a lot of it is because of what you're describing, you know, part of it is that these companies like Google Facebook and apple Amazon, you know, they have claims to work that employee employees do part of it too. Is that especially Facebook or listen familiar with Facebook? They are so good at using their software to find company startups that are starting to thrive early on and making acquisition offers so they can get in early and acquire the competition in clear out the competition. But but I think another part of it is exactly what we're talking about. With the zen Amax Oculus case where if Oculus had been on its own at that point, you know, basically had not sold to Facebook that that litigation could have just been crippling. Even though in the end after Peel's think Oculus is going to has been. Pretty victorious. And by the end, I'd be surprised if Cinemax receive much of anything, but you know, this is years and years of litigation. There was a three week long trial. There was at one point five hundred million dollars ruling against Oculus. And if you're a small company like just emotionally that's tough to deal with but without the big pockets of company like Facebook or one of the other big tech companies. It's just hard to whether that storm. So I think that that's relevant to all of us. Because. We see what happens when these big tech companies don't have much competition. They essentially don't have to change. And I've always been a believer in the merits of competition driving innovation. So that's been sort of a a sad. Larger thing that I saw throughout the course this book that was never really at the forefront because it's not super related to virtual reality. But just from experiences in Silicon Valley, and you know, the point that you're making the lawsuit. I think now realizing how how much this is the case. Yes. So what do you think is the future? Now in terms of how soon do you think for will reality is going to become as ubiquitous as Facebook? Or in the way, we use their mobile phones, given these sort of way in which these new constraints, I should say I can take while. I always always a little bit more conservative. I remember early on almost like my editor expected that the first Christmas season. These things would sell billions of copies billions of headsets. I never thought it was going to be like that. But I do think the concerns of what information Facebook obtains from the Oculus rift headset, and and that goes echoes also for each five or Sony, PlayStation, VR of some of the other headsets, just basically everything that you're doing. There is something that could be tracked and captured and I think that for now grappling with what that actually means. And then just in general, I always sort of you know, like, I said, I don't agree often with Mark Zuckerberg? And I you know, I definitely didn't didn't agree that this was going to be a similar trajectory as smartphones to me, the competent always saw and probably influenced by Palmer lucky. You always talked me in these terms was much more like the PC. Revolution from the late seventies early eighties. And so, you know, we have the success story of apple in the late seventies. And we all think is is definitely was a success story. But, you know, just totally, you know, my family didn't own a computer until like nineteen five a personal, computer. So it took fifteen years for it to reach sort of more of a mainstream audience, obviously, I'm just sample size of one. So take from that what you will. But, but it really was it did start with hobbyists, then it became peop-, the personal computer originally, mostly just for business purposes, and I even old enough to remember that people were like, why would I ever want to personal computer my home? What would I what would I do it? That's the kinds of questions people are asking now with the are even as cool as impress as cool as Israel's oppresses. They are when trying it. It's like, okay. But what am I actually gonna use this for and, unfortunately, even after three years of working on this book? There still is not a great answer. I'm very confident that. There will be one. I'm probably more optimistic about that than before. Because I see how it can be used for productivity and for commercial dentures, even just like for training. But I do think it's going to be a long road and not a quick fix without even getting into concerns. People have and probably should have about the companies that are providing these. Yeah, I think it gets back to your issue your question, or your issue of the fact that even when the hardware is there. The software is going to take a long time to build like, for example, I've as an opera singer. I've definitely wanted to of your program where I can step in and practice my opera roles with full orchestra and on the stage of the met and virtual reality will provide that some day, but somebody's got a code it. And you know, so that's gonna take a lot of time and a lot of money and not everyone's going to be interested in making my opera career, flourish. Absolutely. And part of appeal to me initially with Oculus this being back in like twenty fourteen twenty teen. Was that it was a company started by enthusiasts and mostly four in ass-? They have mainstream aspirations, but but but I say that specifically because. You know, what they actually sold initially was a developer kit. It wasn't even for consumers. It was for developers. And they wanted. I guess the way of saying this is that this probably not going to be. I can't imagine a board room somewhere at Google where someone's like, hey, we should make this opera program. That'll make us a lot of money, and we'll sell a lot of copies. I mean, hey, maybe it will. But I would say more likely that very niche product, and what you get when you're dealing with is much more niche creations. And I really liked that aspect. I really liked it the developer community and ecosystem that was being created. And that changed a lot with Facebook. And with that came a lot of good by scaling up and sort of changing the trajectory. But that was that that is something that I miss and would like to see more of just more from the India, developers, creating the kinds of apps like what you're talking about. So I wanna let us know that like Harris's book the history of the future activists Facebook and the revolution that spat virtual reality is now available at booksellers everywhere. I have one last question for you as we've been talking about, you know, some of the things that people need to consider. In terms of how VR will affect society, especially if it's being run by large companies like Facebook who make their money off of data gathering. You know, this idea of tracking and capturing well now Palmer lucky seems to be tracking and capturing in a different way. So in a way that in my opinion, is is very scary. So tell us a little bit about end derail is that. How you pronounce it? It's honorable named for the sword in Lord of the rings. But yeah, so so September twenty sixteen Palmer becomes the most hated man in Silicon Valley or the worst. According to wired and pretty reflective of what I was hearing from people at the time and then six months, four months later, they had this trial Cinemax too much after that Palmer, quote, exits Facebook for unknown reasons but early he was fired for Facebook. And then over the next few months, he starts company onto role with trae Stevens from founders fund and. A few other people and trae worked with Peter Thiel impure chill was probably known to some of your listeners, and he was one of first investor. He was obviously diverse investor Facebook. He was the first investor Oculus interestingly enough, and he was the first investor in Palmer's new company under all and and their first project is is a digital tower. It's a virtual border wall using virtual reality technologies and digital technologies to create a surveillance tracking system on our southern border at least for now. That's where it's been implemented. Which would be I guess in contrast to that that ridiculous wall the president wants to put up. So I know personally, I think in a month nonpartisan way it shouldn't be too controversial. Because I'd rather have that than than a physical wall. But then again, it gets to what you're talking about the tracking surveillance aspect, which is something very worthy of concern. Blake to Harris. Thank you. 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BGN #208 I The Cast of Warrior

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BGN #208 I The Cast of Warrior

"You're listening to the black girl nerds? PODCAST. Think seven eight hundred bleeping at the end the world. and. Every from. Arrive to space that we make colonize target gave. The actors were. Black. Benedict. Police. Owners. Welcome to the black GRONER's podcast. I'm your host Ryan and you know these days I've been feeling like, I just need a squad a warriors just the kind of follow me around these days with all this that's being thrown at us a you know if I was GonNa, put my squad together I would have to start it with my guest today because her source skills are unmatched. And before I introduce I, WanNa talk about the show she's on I she's on warrior in is going to premiere October second on cinemax she plays a toy. And she is a Ma- Madam for brothel and I, you hear that and you thinking Oh. What kind of because I think that's what she wants you to think that it's not a lot of competition going on in. She's GonNa Kinda high behind the scenes But yeah, she's out a surprise. You guys. If you have not checked out the series, you definitely need to get ready to come first season two, and so I'm glad to have her and I'm talking about Libya chain and she is also a Canadian accent. And a broadcast journalist and you've also probably seeing her on Netflix's Polo. So a Livia. Welcome. Thank you so much for talking to me today. Thank you so much for having me. All right. So I gotta start with the very at the top here and just figure out how did you even become involved in warrior like what was that? Yes call for you for for a toy. You know I think the biggest. Yes. Card for me was the fact of who is involved. You know it's it's not only a Bruce Lee legacy project that has the blessing of. His daughter Shannon Lee and very much has her Fingerprints all over it but it's also backed by Justin Lin. Who for so many Asian North Americans is someone that we all respect so much for the inroads he made on behalf of our community in Hollywood. And Jonathan proper who you know comes from being this bestselling novelist to this incredible show runner behind you know one of the biggest guilty pleasures I would hear people in the industry talking about. Banshee. So I. Think it was my trust in the team and the fact that it was housed within. CINEMAX HBO. That kinda made me take the leap of faith because I think what a lot of people don't understand is when we sign these contracts and we sign up for five seasons. We don't actually know what they plan to do our characters. We don't know where I WANNA go. So it's a huge leap of faith. And I'm really glad that I you know bet on this team. Because you guys by the way, if you guys like I said you guys haven't checked it out. It will really encourage you to find that warriors spirit because it's so awesome. The things that it talks about for listeners that don't know it is addressing the nineteenth century gangs gang wars in San Francisco in Chinatown. It's also addressing a lot of the issues of Chinese immigration and so. I want to ask you what I guess maybe research for your character or maybe all set. was there anything historical? Wise. It kind of shocks you that she was surprised to find out about that century or about what was going on in that time period. Because I, I already have been such a history buff a my production company is actually named La Cantuta productions. Which I got from women who run with the wolves by Dr Clipping. Coletta says an he describes the term as a musical songstress quality to it as well. But she defined the term as keeper of old stories. And I've been someone who's been so drawn to history and I have learned so much about Asian, American Asian Canadian history at a my own interest I think because I was trying to understand my own place in modern society and questioning why do people have assumptions about me before they know anything? About me before I've actually earned any of those beliefs good or bad though I, I've always been someone who's kind of looked at history to understand okay if there's a perception about a certain community, where does that come from? So you know for worry I was already very familiar with the world it was set in very excited to bring that world to life as a history nerd you know for Asian American history. Already knew who autour wasn't in fact when I I was exposed to her, it was actually because. I was helping friends tape for Warrior 'cause they were searching for the Milwaukee brewers. So I read it and I was like a toy. But as ignore, wait a minute, this is happening eighteen seventy, eight, four years before the Chinese exclusion act this can't be about the real because she she existed more than the eighteen fifties. And then of course, I found out later that this is our fictionalized version of the real. Toyota super excited about that because a real toy was arguably the first. Asian to ever use the US court system to. Protect her business and her assets before there were some law that was changed that included the Chinese with Latin necks, blacks, and indigenous people to not allow them the same Abilities Within Litigation Real toy was boss and Are fictionalized version of that. Yes at first glance she's a madam and you might think Oh. Okay. This is this going to be another hyper sexualization of Asian woman onscreen and then as it goes on especially I think in season two. You know she just really I hope audiences really feel like she becomes so much more of a complex conflicted. Flawed character WHO's just human. Yet in the speaking of which the the revolution when she first when the word came over her mouth, she was gonNA use a brothel within that brothel to you know start. The network I was I was just shocked like I was just sitting there. Like did I did I just hear that maybe I need to rewind it a little bit relatively. Born in. Yeah it 'cause it started and it's very like you said, it's a very I love the way she's very stealthy about it. Because you like I say you. Know you're thinking, okay. We're GONNA see this over sexualize. I don't want to go. You know you already halfway into some of the season. I have some of the episode before you meet her and you're like, okay, there's a Lotta stuff. That's kind of you know people of Color in America's like all of this stuff. Sometimes, you feel like you're just weighed down by you see it over and over again. But to see her twisted and put a revolution on it and say, Hey, no, this is what we're going. This is what they want to see. But I'M GONNA do this behind the scenes was really is really cool about about the character she's a disruptor you know yeah. Yeah. Made this. They made this Oughta, a visionary, a disruptor. A cultural. Revolutionary you know in today's Lingo, we might call an activist on, but she also really understood that. You know I. Think like so many people color or people from marginalized communities. You're so aware you're so hyper aware of WHO's in the room and when ace is yet whereas if you have power and privilege, you don't even know how much power and privilege you have. So I think the fact that stands that she is seeing a different way. Or she seen a certain way and that she's undermined because of it, she uses it to her advantage yeah yeah. And what in I'll go ahead go ahead? No no go ahead I was GONNA say 'cause you mentioned advantage and I, WanNa talk about this sward 'cause i. don't I never know how she's going to come out of the scene with this saying and I'm like, how does she do it like every time you never know what the right, the right staff position the right accuracy you're like how does She so I'm putting you on the spot here. So you know I'll totally take you. You have no idea this why? Why did you even ask but do you know what kind of weapons us what kind of sword is in? What what was the training? Are you training on that like constantly where you say I, was training on constantly while as onset because you know I mean I never actually. Took martial arts training in earnest until I was cast on Marco Polo and suddenly you know they were so big on the actors doing their own stunt scenes. Kinda like the the the the Chinese cinema. Tradition of of that just like breaking our backs to sell our characters and it was my real first exposure into the action genre which I love So I was a gymnast before. So know gives you a real good sense of body awareness. Yeah. Mom, and then my stunt double. was grown in Tokyo from China and she actually was my stunt double in my a season, Marco Polo, and both my seasons of warrior. With her at least three times a week because you know what I love about Action Warrior is that all of the different fight styles and physicality very much come from and are tailored to the personalities of the characters were all really different like if you really want to wake nerd out and look at it, we're already different Anatoly. She's the only female fighting. Like. She's the only female fighting on the show and. Me Is quick. She's efficient and she doesn't suffer fools and I don't think it's that she enjoys doing what she has to do I think she sees it as a necessity. And I am being she also understands it as a woman. She doesn't have a physical advantage over men let alone multiple men. So stealth and surprise is one of her key weapons. So to have a few moves because you know she's going to be efficient because she can't risk being overpowered by her target. I constantly trained because I wanted a needed those moves to look so effortless. so Olivia the actress, it was not effortless for, but for or cut LUKLA. It had to look like such an extension of her emotion Annex Minkin of her anger and an extension of her need to protect your people and seamless in that way. Yes, because you can definitely tell like just very well played on your part because you can see the switch I feel like like you can. You can see her you can see it where you. Say. You don't know what she's GonNa come from. You don't know exactly how this is going to go down, but you could see something change in her when she gets pushed to that limit what she's like, okay I need to do something about this. They're not. They're not hearing on this other levels on either come at a different way. Yeah. You know she's someone and I don't know how much of season two you've seen by. There's something I don't. I don't think I'll be giving anything away. There's there's just this moment where she straight up says something to number one in the character. Like they'll never believe no one is ever gonNA. Believe that I'm the swordsman. You know she know. Wow. Yeah. Yeah that's true. Yeah. She complete and so much of finding this character like I felt like I got mathematical down to win I would blink because young of her is mask and so much of where she's found is the stillness as she does not give. Anything away. But at the same time that doesn't mean she doesn't feel she feels very deeply. Just, that in a world that is so machiavellian that is so misogynist dig and then you intersect that with racism. And economic oppression and a think it makes sense that Ottawa has to keep her cards. So close because she just is constantly having to calculate. Way that people who aren't in power have to do how to make the next best move and not giving her hand away. Yet and I like that she's not like you said I like that. She's very not about it's not all about her like you can tell she's always trying to support You know whoever? She can help some of the women in the in the brothel Assam who I'm like, why does he ever listened her? It always gets. The airplane I'm like I was doing but. This relationship you know how she's always trying to help him out and then like she brings them back from What is the Yeah. Yeah. You hours just like how does she do that but I'm like Osama's not gonna learn I feel like he's not GonNa Learn I have a guy to to deep into to we'll see but I feel like she's always coming to his rescue and I'm like you know I don't know what he would do avoid not show up. Well, she does and I'm so glad you're bringing that up because it was something really mindful on a part of the producers and you know like look I have so much fun working with Andrew Koji and. You know he he he so kinetic and he is he's he's such an actor who removes energy in a room and and There were some scenes in season one where I kinda. Played. It like I for an is like he's yelling at me, I'm yelling back. At because it was fun, you know it's sort of fun to just just. Kinda thing. Right I Y. You know had. At least two conversations with Jonathan Chopper who was like? No, she's she's the mentor and she has to be above. She has to be more mature more she has to not be. shook his immaturity at his self destructive ways. She's she's above that. So I think, I really thought about that and instead, of course, corrected a little 'cause sort of fun to yell sometimes. Yeah, I'M GONNA. Say I wonder if you guys are doing that sometimes especially like when you're thinking about the subject matter and what you guys are trying to? Let the viewers know and inform them about. I. Feel like that has to be like such a great great moments where you. Got Released a little bit and that's what I love about our show is there's actually so much information there like. It is seen in in you go wait a minute that that happened you. You can. You can do an Internet search and find out so much about Asian American history and find the parallels between what you know that community went through that I think other communities can go. Well, oh my gosh. Well, that reminds me of what happened here in our. Community in the lynchings that happened here in this community on the fires that were set in the looting that happened over here for that community how this you know there's there's so much universality in in in our show. But yeah, he's a really fun entertaining way that completely subvert many expectations and I love that ought toy you know especially in season two. Kaz. When you're finding your footing on a show, you always get better as you get to know the characters in the world more and. Toys fashion was very, very well thought out because. Brothel and her fashion was always meant to represent the future. Her you know a lot of our wardrobe choices don't make sense which I kind of love. You know why it makes it it untraditional period piece because we break. So many rules is very cool. Yeah. Hi, it's high stylized pulp. It's like. Of New York meets. US. and. Ottawa's fashion. They don't make any sense for that time but that was very purposeful choice because she's the character in that embodies vision she's the character that embodies. The disruptor energy because John. King ahead to you know, there's there's an indigenous saying about what if you made every choice? Thinking about how it impacted the next seven generations. Well Yeah I think that's Toys role is and you know and I had some conversations with Shannon Lee, last year. About how she really wanted to explore female strength and how females strength truly looks. You know not not leg all you know this is a revenge film. We're going to give a chick in a tank top in short shorts and put an AK47 in her hands and she's GonNa. She's GonNa Blast in blow up her attacker. That yeah. Can Mail idea I think of of how women should look if they're being strong and I think the the strength of the female principle is healing and holistic and community and allies ship and I think you see a little more of that to season two. and. What and I'm curious to? What kind of feedback are you getting from fans have you got any kind of interesting feedback about? Just like you know anything they didn't know about you know Asian culture or Just, because like I said, it's very it's very cool how the castles portrayed, which is the diversity that you don't get to see all the time, which is amazing You like you said the women what some of the feedback have you got any kind of feedback from your character about character I have. You know. It's funny I was I was. Sometimes the time when people meet you they're very respectful intentive about imposing on your space. But what I find hilarious and I love is when you get a warriors fan and they recognize you to confirm that you are indeed who they think you who you are who they think you are yet they just go off into their own world and it's not even about me. I become this captive audience and launch into like their dissertation on Warrior and it's so thoughtful and they're kind of like the way you're doing. It's like they recall very specific scenes they were call specific lines. And it's really gratifying because you can not one. You can really see that genuine connection and passion for the show and the themes and to especially when it's non Asian. Fan. Who Walks up to me? It's really gratifying to hear them say things I didn't know. I didn't know that. Your guys is community went through this. I didn't know dat there were so many different kinds of Asians. Nineties Korean Japanese Filipino Vietnamese like all these. You know because we we we we have so many. Across a very dass bre represented on our show. All playing. Chinese. But all our backgrounds are so different No so In that sense, it's been really gratifying. Yeah and I'm and I'm going to second that because I'm not Asian and I did learn a lot from this and I. that's why I was a huge fan of the show because I. Love it when there's a mix up when there's diversity when they show was something different that were not used to seeing and you do a phenomenal job as a totally thank you so much but I wanna because I wanna I wanNA change a little bit 'cause. We're GONNA hurt out a little bit here because you do an action and I love action myself. I WanNa know is there like a dream like action franchise? Yes. So tell me tell me all the. We also okay. I I don't mean to be like really creepy or anything because you. Know we go ahead and get hype Rovner Z. to hear this Ra. Okay The old guard. With Charlotte. Yeah. Yeah shortly, staring in anything they come on on Yep. Has Female Action Star. On yeah that was amazing. I May. It I watched her sequence, Tomic Blonde Lake three times trying to look for the edit. Thrown down the stairs lady I know they must have done some leg swap out like some kind of you know like what the head of the Yakima find it either. But saying ahead of me yet, what is like a ten minute sequence where they're just going at it in his kind of funny because there's a point in atomic blonde where's Charlene's in her attacker they just both get tired that it's almost this truce while they're both. Ramping and try to recover the fight again. I WanNa do something like that and I love the old guard I I thought it was so well done I I love that hope for Charlie's Barron's. Character is embodied by a young black. Woman. Who has? Of Right action off the hook, the questions that they bring up on ethics and morality and just a beautiful story line of like sometimes and I think it's so important right now to right. It's like there's so many there with this racial reckoning we we are all sort of. Feeling called to do something and sometime you Sunday and you have no idea if it's having any impact right and I, love that the old guard showed that you may not see it right away you may not see ever. But you have to trust that. It's there. You know evadne. Yeah and that her impact was actually felt like. It took a few generations but the people she saved went on to you know have these families and and and and and you know have a lineage of people who change the world. And that value for the individ- I mean I. Just I just love the old guard. So that would be a franchise on you know Gina, if you're listening to creep you but you did such an amazing job You know what other franchises You know something like the hit man's bodyguard i. I would love to do an action comedy you know and and get along with. Your because you. Know and and get your holiday. It's always like the buddy buddy usually just. End. Doing. The Buddy Buddy and he saw reese and Sophie a reese. Witherspoon Sophia Vargas do the buddy buddy thing. Oh Yeah. Yeah and so it's like can we see more that I? Think we saw Sandra Oh, my God blow. McCarthy's. No and I'm like I WANNA I would love to do like action comedy and get to do my version of lake something. Buddy Buddy. I just hope they. Let you bring along a sore because then be cool I. Listen. I will I will I will I will gladly pick up A. A you know any any day but I'm, I'm I'm glad I sold that sorts you because my friend did was in was not a natural weapon for me. Yeah. I just think it's the coolest thing and I don't know if it's just I mean is cool too because it's just like women kicking ass but it's just the coolest thing is like the way she comes out of the scene because I think when I I thought I wasn't expecting it. So yeah, I'm hoping when you get into your action franchises the somewhere is somewhere in your weapon repertoire that you gotTa pull out. That would be pretty yeah. I. Look from from from from from your mouth to the universe. I hope we're GONNA keep our fingers crossed I'm also hoping that I'll get you back sometime when season two was out and we talk about it or whatever else got coming up next. Any Oh. Are you asking me what else I have come out or oh yeah. Hey if you wanNA tease the forest, we'll take it. If you want to give it to us, we'll take it. Oh Well. First of all, anytime, you want to talk about six to I'm happy. I'm so happy to nerd out about season to him so. Proud of what we put down in how much deeper we go and Say Just how topical it is right now with the themes of. Politicians pitting people. Marginalized communities against each other the uptaken. Xenophobia. Going on right now with Covid nineteen right eerily reflects what's coming out in season two so It's really. Important I think for me to to to have abilities in in options to talk about is anytime anytime Ryan. In terms of what I've got coming out I talk fully about all of it yet out I got. Yeah. I got I got cast something that I think will appeal to a lot of you know the the the nerds out there but. At School. The casinos hasn't come out yet and we're just waiting for the set to reopen for me to start up not filmed. One day on that project yet but. Coming out, and then in the meantime, I'm just working on expanding behind the cameras. So hopefully way not too far in the future you know I'll I'll be able to have some announcements on. Data? End You know fingers crossed I've I've I've I've never. Worked behind the camera like this so I'll wait I. Love that tees a great tease. Thank you. Well thank you again, Olivia I. Really appreciate it. Hopefully you stay save everybody to stay save and I will talk to you guys very soon because I got more coming. By by. The. Black girl nerds podcast will return in just a moment. The Salon with Lala Milan is a new podcast that I think you are going to love. You might already know law law from her viral videos on instagram and tick. Tock. Infamous parodies on Youtube and if you've not seen her content, stop the podcast right now go to her tiktok good her youtube gutter instagram, check the videos out. They are hilarious. They're funny. She is so entertaining. You know she's not only this hilarious actress and comedian. She's also an expert on giving beauty tutorials and fashion tips and her and her squad are known for unfiltered conversations and savage pop culture gossip. 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Right now in stitcher apple or your favorite podcast APP and make sure to subscribe y'all. Welcome to the black gunners podcast. I'm your host Ryan and I told you guys keep listening to stay tuned because I have a surprise I am now on this Warrior Creek and I'm so excited as a fan and I the Kim t to talk to the to the lovely cast. So many different warriors on this show. So just to catch you up in case you're not aware October second warrior is going to debut a second season on cinemax. So I'm very excited to continue like I said to talk to the cast today I have Diane Dome with me. I she plays. Hi. How you doing she, she's already she's professional she's trained in the. Company. I keep going. Keep going. No it's all. It's all good. We love to hear from you but I just want to give them a little background just because I don't know you play may link and she is the head of the long Z.. And I'm telling you guys you WANNA mess with her like I've seen her tussle in a room with some guys that I'm like, oh. Man I'm glad it's not me. So she is doing her thing a warrior for you Disney fans though just in case you might know her as Lonnie from descendants descendants too. So just to give you a little background on there, but you already said how does what? I, want to say hi, again because I'm super excited talk to you. Hi, Ryan thanks for having me today. All right. So tell me what was it about may lean like, what do you love about mailing and being a part of warrior at this point? Oh. Well, you know as an agent actress, I've never really got me opportunity to play someone like my lane who? Who you know fights for and needs that power in her life? A lot of I mean I. Don't want to Bash on anything but a lot of characters especially Asian females where. We're kind of always. The girlfriend or over hyper sexualize and to play Berkshire who kind of fights and takes that power for herself. I've never been able to play a character like that. So of course. I jumped right on I need. Yeah. Tell me a little bit about being I. Guess you're a little bit about the feedback you've gotten back from women like you said, Asian are just women in general. Where is just 'cause like I said year the figure, the leader of the Long Z.. That is kind of trying to basically our see you as the head of all these other gang leaders want to be there all kind of fighting with each other. But then it's like you come to the table and you're like in the center SORTA speak and you're having to deal with all these these guys with the Eagles and just some of our mergers straight up. Just crazy. We know what to recover to come from a you're having to get in front of your light. Okay. Look this house going down. This is what I'm saying but you're a woman having to do all these. You know now personally bias of this like women should be in charge anyway but tell us about being able to play that on screen and what What feedback you've gotten for women to be to see that. Yeah You know the feedback that I've gotten his a lot of a lot of women are especially you know female Asian Americans my friends who are fellow actors as well. They're just so. Excited to seize a character this well rounded on screen and to be played by a woman. But a lot of the fans I'm the villain I'm I'm kind of like you know that power hungry overachiever kind of. Creates chaos in the world and I'm kind sooner in. But how I see it is a woman in Chinatown trying to survive and. Means and ways of doing it isn't always conventional but the bottom line is she's fighting for her people and and this is how she she doesn't want to be the bottom of the barrel. She doesn't want to be you know in the brothels because a lot of the times. The women in that era if you're coming over to America you'RE GONNA. Be a prostitute and brothel, and so you you meet characters like toy who is the she's the owner she is the the Madam and so she's found her power within chinatowns well, not having to adhere to a man necessarily know and I feel like that is my way as well. And talk a little bit about worker with with Andrew on this as well. in Assam it may lean and this brother sister dynamic that is just so interesting to me because you know Assam stresses me out ally Washington Show 'cause I'm like, you know you know that's a hard time because he is just bad as fighter, but it's this like on the other side of things. It's like you have your sister here and it's just like well, what is he gonNa do and it's just that torture of that that back and forth of you know what will they ever get to come together or is it just too much bad blood like going on between them so was that dynamic like the play? Well, first of all, Andrew Koji is my brother I. Mean you know I, call him love he calls me this. Job at his mom is officially adopted me I mean we're we're family we really are, and I think that's the beauty of this show is it's brought these. Lifetime relationships he's long lasting relationships into into our lives. Cohen's self is I mean he's a beast he's really. goes he takes his work. So seriously I mean he completely transformed his body into what you see on screen I mean. That is that is literally blood sweat and tears that. It's under there, but he didn't come like that. So I I witnessed, you know the countless hours in that stunt tent. Just, working and working hard and he does a lot of his own stunts I mean if not most of his stunts. And being able to play on screen when we have the scenes together, that's just a bonus because. It's so much fun to work with him. We never know what's going to happen I. Mean those words are there on the page but It's it's dynamic when when I get to work with him, it's it's great and you know everything that's happening right now if. Him and snake is coming out and what's next I mean this is all well desert using edible. And I want to ask you to also the scene at the end of season one or sort of at the end of season one with the the boxing ring what were your like I. Guess what was Diane's take on CNN mailing her her choice of wishy did. As far as the Assam was concerned and how that how that I ended I mean because obviously she's on top with that now but I was kinda thinking like well, maybe mailing didn't SORTA. Like that. Well, you know. Family aside, my laying I took Koji Osama side and and and. gave him the opportunity to walk away walk away from the talk from hop way because I knew what was coming You know that that fight was to establish long zee on top of hop way and unfortunately. Assam didn't leave and he is the power in that in that Tong. So it became Leon versus SOM-. My brother versus my partner am. The audience you know that was such an amazing fight. Regardless you know what? Brett Chan are coordinator dead and what Kojin Joe did. that was what killed the relationship between mailing and Assam. Definitely I mean the fact that I was okay with seeing him dead but we have to remember that I gave him the opportunity to leave. I told them if you go through this. Not GonNA end well, and season two is a lot of him trying. To. Not seek revenge, but but try to. Hurt me because of what he did and a lot of season two was mu trying to mend that broken relationship. And to get my buddy thing. Yet and do you think we do we get to see like any kind of fun moments I saw I saw a little bit of season to where it kind of opens up just like who a lot of tension between them do we get any like do you think we get any lighthearted is gonna see them two or the just their straight the business 'cause they're pretty they're pretty serious about what's going on here is there is a lot of I would say. You know. giving. You know that that that white flag that olive branch you know trying to make men's with him But. What's done is done I think Assam is is very hard headed character and I'll just say this at the end of season two, it's there's a zinger something happens and it just Kinda. It's fun. You Know Ryan this is such a fun season. And what tell me a little bit because you've you've got to play a little bit. As far as like the stunts and everything talked about you guys on your on stunts. Do you have any like exciting fighting scenes coming up that we get to see you kinda play more with the weapons and everything so With Power Tom's men and I feel like. I am the head of the Long Z.. I got in a lot of arguments with Brett Craner and even our writers jt Brad Kane, I would remember them being give me something. You know I'm in the stunt every day I'm training with the guys as much as I can give me something to do but you know I have my muscle Leon is my muscle last season we saw. Arguably me get my ass kicked by below But yeah, I feel like in a position of power, I don't have to necessarily. Exert too much. Have people do that for me. Yeah I do like the way she does she doesn't know how to throw her muscle, which I I, can appreciate that know how to use like. So she doesn't have to step up and fight and do all that by the way what it with with Zealand, what do you? What do you say about the relationship between them because it's very interesting. He's the bodyguard protector, but you also have the romance relationship going on. Yeah and I'm kind of wondering I'm like the more power she gets is going to be like we'll do I still I still need him there like is he going far enough? Interest Yeah I love that I love that you thought that You know I think in season one use you see that. My laying Leong were very much on the same level. You know I'm I'M The wife and he is the main the muscle in it. He's the right hand man and throughout that season one, I kinda move above them becoming the leader taking over that role. But we're still seen as equals. I think in season two, that relationship is definitely tested. You know she he. Sees me do questionable actions. You know my decision he doesn't always agree with. So there's that tension of like. Is that bridge being burned? Can he trust me? Can I trust him? Yeah, there's there's a lot with that relationship and the dynamics of that because you're right I'm the woman in power and. Do I need them I. Think I do because my link is so isolated in that world she's so alone she has no one she doesn't have a brother. I feel like it's it's. It's me want to hold onto whatever relationships I can. Yeah, so we gotta put away. We're GONNA put away like the sharp swords and knives and stuff because she did take. Long. So I was like. By that woman. Still should. Okay Okay Okay 'cause I was like I was Gonna say that was a that was like a coma began shocking moment at the same time for me and the first season. Yeah. Definitely I mean it shocked a lot of us. That was when they wrote that it was that was a heavy day to play over and over again. causing re who plays long I mean he was such a yeah it is a hard day. Yeah Yeah. He is absolutely a lot of these pretty amazing but let's talk about what about the wardrobe? How do you is that stuff that you weren't very functional for you to move around in and doing a lot of A lot of the fighting maybe not yet. But what do you feel about your costumes that help you get more into mailing? Oh definitely I, mean, Ryan let me tell you. We would obviously I. You know we would get picked up at three, forty, five, four o'clock in the morning get driven a few hours hair and makeup. These are well stare like, yeah. Layers on layers leather and were shooting in the summer in Cape Town, it definitely puts you in that mood. I. Mean you're. In there you're stuck for the rest of the day. I mean to get in and out is is a lot. It's takes awhile. So the word are incredible. I mean as much as this is a period drama I feel like production really took the liberty on the female characters wardrobe maybe. Auto in my link specifically, we really got to be creative in that, and that sets the tone I. Mean you know the difference between op Toyin these gorgeous gowns, these head pieces, and then you have my lincoln season two, who's very like. It's. It's very you know suit jackets strong shoulders. It's it definitely puts in that in that mood. And I'm curious to see if a toy mailing will meet like in in in season two I think that'd be interesting in meet up 'cause both two women that Kinda feel like no where they wanna go in life and kind of have these strong positions that'd be cool. I don't WanNa spoil anything but you might see something like that. Yeah and and I can't believe it took this long I mean. There are great friends in life and I'm like, what is it? GonNa. Take for us to actually work together on set and it's it's fun. I'll just say that because again, you're right to strong women. They've. He she's. On the hop wayside even though she's neutral and I'm long Z. somewhere is that you know that tension that. The attitudes the passive aggressiveness it's it's fun. It's really fun. Yes. That's going to be for that. Saying it's GONNA. Be Cool. We just need is we just need a throwaway like mailing like just like a little knife or something we the a little weapons in those scenes. Yeah. Yeah I did want to ask you though did you have a favorite moment from season because I want to spill I don't WanNa make you kinda spill too much season two's do you have a favorite scene from season? One favorite moment? Oh I gotta say the most dynamic, the most. Seen for me would definitely be you know that not fight with Bolo into the lungs e into like? Killing along Z I mean not is way of very. Prominent moment for the character. Oh, I'm sorry that's annoying. For character even. One. Thing that that I've got like I'll remember forever it was such a big day for the character turn story wise and then. You know a heavy day emotionally well. Yeah. Well, I'm just let me say you again I'm excited for season two. I can't wait for people to check it out as we kind of transition here to kind of wrap up I want to ask you because you've been very. Open about your in I think you said you're beckoning like another quarantine and you've kind of been shown. What you've been going through dated may have you picked up like you picked up any cool hobbies or anything right? You're so sweet Let me tell you this whole quarantine whether it was in the states or where I am now in Canada? I've never cooked more in my life. I love cooking. It's. It's really given me like a sense of ease because you know the stressful time no one knows what's going to happen with you know financially with worked with Ray. Halladay. is adopted a dog. I've been. So. Yeah. Just anything I've been reading I've been. Spending a Lotta time with working on relationships you know building these strong female relations I've got a group of girlfriends that means the world to me. You know my family, it's put into perspective what's important and as much. As work is amazing, I can't wait to go back. It's also like. You know these things that I put on the backburner are finally. Presenting itself I'm grateful for the time I've had. With my family and this is like you like how do our prior to prioritize all that because it's like now you gotta just get to sit around like you said, it's a lot of self care it just kind of the you know when you have to pick out a silver lining from everything that's going on. Yeah So yeah, it'll. Definitely it'll definitely be interested in once once things pick up and I'm hoping to start working on cooking 'cause I burn a lot right now you to find something GonNa. Do you just patients patients in effort? That's all I mean I'm not saying I'm a great cook but if it's edible, let's that's a win for me. Exactly. Exactly. That's all I'm saying. But ut's I know everybody's into kind of a little. What's what are we going to do bags? You know you gotta get your as long of how we're GONNA even beyond sets anymore. But do you have anything you can tease for US anything coming up you know I'm all I'm gonNA. Cheese right now is warrior season two. It's been a long ago. We you know we did that God almost more than a year ago and I just can't wait for For, what the audience is GonNa say you know before I was teasing some fun and that was agents shield not just ended. So there's a lot of good stuff coming and yeah, I'm very grateful. Yeah, it'll be cool. It's GONNA be cool. See everybody everybody's been working on weather and they're like secret workshops. For Quarantine. Exactly. Exactly. Well Diane. Thank you so much. This has been fine. Thank you so much for talking to me. Ryan. Thank you for your time. This has been great. And Gaza remember Warriors Season Two cinemax you guys check it out October second and stay safe out there and I will talk to you soon. Bye Bye. Welcome to the Black Gunners podcast I'm your host. Ryan, and I'm sad but I'm excited because I'm wrapping up this whole episode I'm bringing you guys about warrior that's premiering October second my art it'd be out by the time you guys hear this cinemax makes you definitely check it out get ready but we are ending with Assam himself I've been bringing up a couple of times during the interviews that I've been doing in the past for this episode and because I've been talking about how okay he's one of my favorite characters but he also stressed me out a lot because I get so nervous about his decision this. But he's just he's super. He's the Super Bowl Warrior though the watch. You. GotTa check this out of you haven't seen it. I'm talking about and you Koji and I'm so excited he today. Andrew. How you doing? I'm. A I'm good. Thank you very much. How how how are you doing? I'm doing good I. Mean we're getting used to all this like it's like I should say nice to meet you 'cause we're getting used to all this technology and stuff these days. Yeah. I'm just seeing like a a sound a thing just go across the screen like heart monitor it's is is interesting but I'm talking to a person a consciousness the decided this. So I'm talking agreement now. Yes weird it's like well I'm glad you're enjoying talking to the screen hopefully doesn't get too weird. Hopefully, we have a lot of flying by the time we get done. Yeah. This is my first podcast to think. What we're we're glad you pick glad you picked laggers Manfred Abi, your first block is. Having me it's nice to be so. Thank. You by the way from coming. So let's start with. All right. So I. Know You have a background in martial arts right and you're also a stunt man. So did that kind of did that pull you answer this role of Assam that will put you into the whole warrior world in Fandom, It's skills that I had in my in my pocket. The came very useful. because. I think I'm washed lots. And stunts Kinda stopped around twenty A. Job On on fast when acting work was come in Get much acting look at the time and some of his called me up and said Do you WANNA be a double fos furious? So I did that job around I think it was twenty four. So I hadn't done it for a while. So so luckily, because I did it such time quite intensely when I was young I just brush it up for for this show in GonNa get back into training in it was like riding an old bike kind of things times. Yeah had to. Had to approach in a different way as well as the 'cause when I was a moss loss. When I was young, I was a quite competitive in very Trying to do things that I probably shouldn't be to do local these different. So I had to just bring bring. To the to the plate A. Yeah it is like. You're making it sound easy but martial arts, all that stuff is now. My Dad got it in just because it was just me and my sister and he wanted us to be able to defend ourselves and it was just not like the way. It's very regimented and you know working your way I. What what? What style where you? Because I know it depends on whether you go by builds different colours. Yeah. I mean I was a babble, the law, and so I started off. My Dad used to. Do a study studied. Karate under actually one of the top guys time he muscle Yama. So he kinda thought meal from the genuine when I wanted to learn and I didn't know any the schools will cost his nearby. As. Eleven twelve. I went to her Cuando studied that for about. Three or four is very. In depth but then I got injured I told my but in half. Man. In a competition, but we would have A. Competitive Sparring would've? And Yeah, yeah in the last round I was winning the guy was about like a whole belt in a hall something above me and. They just put me in that category. and. Winning the my coach said just okay cool. Now, you just lost round you just need to throw some flashy moves and then you can win the judges over and finish finished with style and. Do that. Through a through an axe kick which. Is. Pretty dangerous kicked the to throw if you haven't trained it because of the way the muscle. Comes down it's a love your hamstring in stuff. So I, told my ass. There and then and that kind of. Change that change everything after that. So that so I couldn't really continue tycoon couldn't walk properly for after that and then well, yeah, had to do rehab it it it it. It really changed. It changed my whole body because it made my my hips be out of alignment in my blow back problems stuff. and so I had to kind of go into different martial arts SUB INTO KUNG-FU IN A. Wing chosen for a bit I. I kinda did basically stuck around. Kung Fu a doubled in Moi tie in a few other things did some once I go bed and my leg my leg bet I started doing acrobatic stuff that helped with the screen screen fighting and stuff. Be has been a long journey with with March lots I. Think with me. In that, respect. Yeah and it's you can really see that onscreen to and I think a so cool. How you guys get to partake in this stuff for Assam was there a stunt that you did or was there a fight scene where you're like? Okay. I, might have shouldn't attempted this like I might have should have. got. Stunt double or somebody else was are you push yourself way too hard and you're like Oh maybe not that one. Season One much of TV a filming his endurance. So you've got to Congo in like a What do you call it a short distance runaway to sprint It's a marathon. Yet you gotTa keep your own you filming maybe sixty plus hours a week having to. Love Sleepless Nights, turn it down your lines and go over the script and. Figure things out but then you've got to in the office, he's trying to stay in shape and then on top bracket. Yeah you gotta you gotTa Balance Your. Energy levels throughout the week. So if you'RE A Might be filming a big fight scene. At. The beginning of one week, but then I still have to remember. The rest of week to shoot and I've got a I've got to be and fresh in to do the acting seems so that's what I learned so much in season two in particular it wasn't so much that one particular. Stunt no move the I shouldn't have done that it was. Season to the end of season to. Those a couple of fight scenes. Now were all scheduled in very close proximity to each other and by the time. Yeah. By the time, you see the end, the final fight in episode ten season to I was I was I was knocking on heaven's door. My body was not going to him today was it was It was My Body just collapsed it didn't work couldn't I couldn't. I couldn't lift my leg to kick because I was his selig's all students. So fatigued. And then. We spoke to the produces ahead to. Dig Deep as well and and how how to do it in. The that was, but it turned out to be one of the most amazing teamwork experiences that they the team Brett Chen Dean. We'll put through. Did that. So it wasn't like one of a one off show. It was just. A of. A mouth on missing endurance game. Many film. TV. So that was the moment to me I was like. God I need some help guys like that. Yeah. I mean I can't imagine that you're still going like you're saying this epic facing towards the end because he's constantly. Assam is starting out in the beginning just constantly fighting. So I can't believe there's still more to go. So I I can imagine like how you're biding was the failure like towards the end of it. It's not like. It's not like A. Bodybuilder might have to who training for six months. and. You. Go to know that that. Each fight scenes is okay. Cool. Now at about week to recover to to to heal up this leg into the welcome these muscles in I've got to be ready for this fight scene. So yeah, it's very you gotta be small as well when you're. Filming, which is a different. Right in the other thing about the about the skills that you guys bring these fight scenes on warrior I'm sure a lot of the fans appreciate its there's there's a certain graphic level to these things like we know where we're going to expect when it comes out are is that is that? Is there anything about that? That's just I'm wondering just in general as far as I guess maybe I don't know if you will call him makeup but some of the effects as far as like the blood flying and everything did they ever get annoying like how long does it take? You guys the set that up You can see Assam go through like fifteen twenty guys and it's just like little year. There's a hand over here and I'm like, I'm wondering like how much because I'm just thinking like time and how long you guys stretch it out how long it takes for you guys a film though scenes and it make it look so cool as it is. Yeah. Well, I'm enough the amazing work of the the makeup artist Amanda. She is. She's she helped me through season two as well so much But. Yeah I mean I think because the world isn't it like so many Hollywood films get in these big fight scenes in by the end of it that hog our place. Right right yeah. Yes. Trulia. Yes. Oh this one is like a trying to realism like if you get if the guy gets punched in the face, he's GonNa you're GonNa see you're gonNA feel it and but I mean D-. Do you know what I think like as as as an actor it? It just helps so much 'cause you feel different you've got prosthetics. I mean in real life of at a black-eyed before swollen lip of. Two black is before you know and you feel different. When you're bit batted and when you've got those prosthetics and stuff in your face, he kinda feel conquest quite open your eyes properly. Oh, it's. It's the end you got blood trickling. To. Technical level to to make you believe in in everything but the a apart from the sticky blood a find it fun part. Well I mean, Hey, it's for us to as the phase like I love those those fight scenes are amazing. That's one of the first things that drew me into the show is because you just WanNa see and that's part of the nervous part of the fun of being a fan because you see femme go through these things you like Oh. My God is this the time where he pushes too far he does much and you're like, we'll. Come back from this 'cause that kind of leads me to one of the questions I was Gonna ask you was okay. Him going through these different fights, his tie to the fung. Hi. Is this do you think for him? Is this building him to make him stronger or do you think he's GonNa hit a brick wall so to speak at a certain point where he can't where he can't go anymore wears like he's done too much. I think I think. I think even though. He's not. that. That wise warrior. A Bruce Lee. Is Philosophies kind of. A going. Going full. I. Think. He's GonNa Warrior Spirit awards spirit within like he's got this fire in in that just won't give up. And he's waiting to go through that pain because I think he feels quite deeply about certain things. So I think that brick wall he probably hit that brick rule that initial brick wall in episode one season one way he felt everything was go to plan and now He's you know he's an season one. He had to just figure out what what the hell can he do now And I think season. Two's like more him trying to put things into plan and moving things forward. I think that he'll will he would eventually hit that brick walls. At some point I don't think it's quite season. Season to even though this certainly dislike emotional. Break rules and things that smashing down but I think. Yeah I know what you mean by someone like him that that character would would definitely has the chance to Kinda just. He he's ripe to be in a position way. They'll be able to continue in a way I think. On said you quit do you and I guess part following up on that for May. Lean. Do what do you feel like they're going forward? Do you think there's any? Reconciliation in their relationship or do you think when that Chinese boxing scene went down the ending? He was done. You think there's any way season two we can get to see them have a a cordial moment where it's not so tense. Have you have you seen season to you know yet? Actually have made it like halfway through. So I'm hoping that's why I'm asking because I'm hoping as I go maybe I'll see something because right now is so tense. Scenes over. Well, let me turn. We'll give it away to A. I think from Psalms point of view the is now gone back. He lost his sister. And he was almost grieving I guess throughout season one and That kind of. That moment in the tournament in season one I think When that happened and I think if you to think on a personal level if that happened to you if a sibling of yours was to okay I'll give thumbs up to your execution. I think that would be a very, very hard relationship to to save really. The UN. Yes so I mean nothing I. Don't think he. He's the kind of person who who would eventually kill her. himself. He wants to teach her lesson for sure I. I think that the Party is room for for hope at the day. You know further down the story book Does it's like sad too but you get it you get it like after you see season one have you guys ever seen it after you see someone you'll. You'll get whether whether relationship is where it is going into season two on but another relationship Osama Toy, what does that? What are you? What do you take from? What do you think their relationship means for Assam somebody that he's just very lucky. There's almost like a guardian angel they're is there to help them out a lot or do you think there's GonNa become like a a mutual benefit of that going to? Yeah. I think the. Thinking about next question. I think yeah at first she was. Kind of A. welcom- A welcoming face a friendly face, the took a shining to him and invited him into her world and to show them about and I think because of his nature. A quite rebellious. Maybe egotistical nature that that that relationship is is very hard like he doesn't want to be the apprentice or he doesn't want to be told things all in he doesn't. Think he thinks that a toy. Is doing things in the way that she knows how to do it. But it's not his way. So I think they. Think the become that they they They will their own journey, but they've got a similar Cho's a similar. Fine I 'cause so. Yeah. So I think that's I. think that's where they kind of out. They're both such strong people that yeah yeah, yeah. They're hard to kind of put in a room together. But in its so it is so entertaining when you ask them together But yes. So yeah, definitely if I have mastered it enough you guys checkout. Season two out of warrior. Check out these one if you need to catch up Andrew. Wrap up here. Wanted to kind of Gig out with you about About. Yeah Yeah because I think you would be life and I'm like I can't wait to see more stuff and I need to go play catch one time I get the warrior of all the action films or whatever you have coming up next but okay so I was I was looking through I was going through and I saw you could be an extra recall bolliger train. How did that? Can you give any they? I? Don't I know you can't. Hollywood is still trying figure forgot how we film things but can you talk about how you got involved in the project like that? That's kind of funny story that was a my my. Agent Meredith she she forty me the script and I. Read it and I thought it was maybe a small independent anew Sonia was involved but I didn't know the names that were involved the time. So I read the script I thought was really well written script, very different kind of character to Assam but. And then I I thought maybe Sony had a small independent film section So and then, and then later on I found out they each directing it and Brad Pitt's Pov it and. Was A. WO- I didn't realize is this kind of The scale of this feeling that I started to be able to picture it and I thought well, I'm not going to get this role is Brad Pitt. I'm not GONNA active Brad. Pitt? That never that was never. A ethnic. Actors can be quite tough industry and sometimes you think. People you'll never get to work with because of. The joyner or the kind of films you know sometimes, you don't think that you have an opportunity. So when that happened I couldn't believe I was it was it was I'm Gonna I'm GonNa go out for that role because. You know it's such an amazing opportunity so It was crazy came about because I didn't know whose names were attached to it and And I didn't think I'd get it because once I found out I didn't get it because I was just like well. GonNa choose some big Japanese. Someone. Staw. Yet. I did my best for the self types and all that. We seem to get one hundred similar vision for the character and. So I'm blessed. Yeah I'm well, I'm excited and I can't wait to see I think you do a fantastic and action thriller I'm kind of biased because I'm a warrior fan but I'm excited to see What you're doing next was coming up next and thank you so much for talking with me today. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Listen to black gold nerds podcast. Give you a plug. You can use it. Thank you. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Everybody stay safe out there where you mask and thank you and I will talk to you guys later. 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Ep. 2 - Live From NAB 2019

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Ep. 2 - Live From NAB 2019

"And we're live. Oh nice. Rely rely here man live at any two thousand nineteen. Yeah. Man introduces Royce will. Hi, guys, I'm Royce, and I'm here with my father's Sindbad stripe. I'm the father. Yes, and reliable any where we're checking out all the new technology all the new some of his old technology that never came. It came back in a be exactly also broadcasting from blurred empire the podcast. We're doing as Blerta's black nerds and empires all the world because technology with minorities everything. Now, the great thing. The great thing about doing a podcast anything anybody. We can't get a shot of this. Can we of the of the audience not looking at you, this the crowds? This is the best part about being at a tech show because you can actually do a podcast with. No one's looking at you. And and that's that's the shot. We like when there's no one Panteios anything what you say. And then people started coming in later on because they don't know what we're talking about. And plus most people that came in just want to sit down, right? Your feet hurt your back or no, I'm not see I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm here where four o'clock with the four o'clock hour, and I and I take my shoes off shoes because my my feet a one out. I feel sorry for all the businessmen here who have to wear. Suits and shoes and sell stuff because I don't have to sell anything. I'm just selling my soul. I'm selling my soul for gear. So we you sell your soul to the devil for gear. These are great sell your soul, shoes because the soul is made to sell your soul. We'll be selling these later on in my show talking about that for five hundred dollars five hundred dollars. How long you become an enemy before becoming almost twenty years. But we we go through he's big on New Year's you become with eight probably like, I think the past five or six years. Yes. I consistently. Yes. But yeah. Like, you said you've been coming for forever. Yeah. So for people who don't know any. Yes. National sociology broadcast. And now what started out there were no regular people? It was just people that worked in the TV business people to work in the movie business, and that so much movie was Devi people come in and talk about Switzer's and cameras, and how do we spend five hundred thousand dollars for one more camera? Can we spend six hundred thousand dollars to get a nice switcher, and you would come here, basically because the point convention was the same week. So they would come in. So they could share. Air with the porn convention, and you got hired one hundred tech show. And now you can't do that. Because it's not properly. I didn't know that. That's that's the true love the. No, that's how tech works. Tech tech works that way. Because most guys think about it. Now, everybody's cool. Could not meet women that weren't many women in the game. So tech dues with the most nerdy goofy dues around. Although now nerd has become cool. Yes. And some notes not nerds they've taken the name nerd and the not really near enough. I'm offended by that. Because those of us nerves we have bully. We got beat down. We didn't fit in. And now everybody wants to be nerve because you have a I phone, and you get a stupid Instagram page we sell makeup, but you don't know anything about makeup. Just go off a lot influences. It's very sensitive. I hate most of them. So we're gonna talk about. Oh, I go off. Right, right. I go home. But see because this is this is real stuff. So it's about technology now walking. Around the show this year. I don't know about you guys. There was nothing like super new was there. That's why I think the whole show is going right now, they use it just go after high end people. Now, they're looking at it depended filmmakers, the looking at the students in school. They're looking at people who have something to say and never had a way to say it, and I think that's where anybody is kind of going now instead of like one great, I think every two years ago one great big thing or two great big things. I think what they've done the shares. They've improved upon the things that we have. And some of the smaller companies are the ones that blow my mind. So I'm gonna tell you right now. Those you shoot what you which I phones the shooting like small cameras like I love black magic. I'm giving the shop to black magic. I love black. Magic cameras. I love the technology allow they made it possible to go out and shoot at a good price with good technology. And I always love going by the booth, but I I a company light Tra. If you guys need some light, this this place, light Tra. Has some really great stuff. If some really great lights really powerful to for the service. Underwater scuba diving. And there was other company was a family owned company in San Diego. Right there. Oh, FOX this company has has lights. I think is carbon fiber that using number ways almost five pounds. They use it mainly for crime scenes, you got a lot of a workplace which you can throw your back weighs about five pounds, also underwater. Their incredible the family out of San Diego. So the best of a sauce on the best lining. I loved it. Man. I went by. So we'll talk about lining about light panels. I like a lot of stuff they have. Sometimes you get overwhelmed. It used to be like like one light company here. They one might company. And now everybody has lights everybody has lights Kimble's ever has to give a fussy one. We'll give us where the God. I I see one more gamble. Remember? It should be these. We know gambles came out with the gambles. Now, everybody has a Gimpo but steady Cam, which is Tiffen they have the air fifteen arm that you can use on the arrow. So now, you can use your your wrote. You're a Ronin, right. Yep. Used to Rona so multi-purpose other than buying a if you don't have like a hundred thousand dollars eighty thousand dollars for steady Cam, which I think a lot of people don't some do if you have if your Instagram influence her and you so bubble gum. You might have that money. I wanna actually talk to you a little bit more about your experience here at AB because you've been coming here for he's at twenty years or twenty years. The for some reason, everyone is always so surprised so tired still when they see you walk in the hall. I'm so tired. I'm so tired people walking up. Why are you here? Why else? Would you come here? Why would you waste seventeen hours and tear up your feet and the total tech PICO nerd whilst? Why the hell would you come here? If you weren't interested people always woke up when I first gave me admit, there weren't a lot of black people here. They were not black men though. Holly, no, women and you come in here. I said I thought it was a movie so. So you know, nothing was with about. We'll while you here. I'll look at. You know, you said I always assume if you're walking around here, you're looking for knowledge, you're looking to buy something you're trying to educate yourself. So I'm glad there's more and more minorities, we have someone walk around here. I don't know if any be hired them if they came on your own. Did you come on your own? Sometimes they plant us your planter. You're not plant. That's a main thing. So we'll see. That's look anybody. You come here. You talk to people come into the show sometimes like a reunion. You get to meet people you get to talk to people. And if you're nice to people you get free st-. Sometimes you're lucky we beg. I've gone by some of the bigger camera companies. And they usually give you stuff you use it, you usually have to take them off the tripod walk away. But you can always say you were testing it. Because you walk out the door is not stealing technically, I'm Luchino until you walk out. The venue is not stealing your testing equipment. Yes. Yeah. The strip and with with being here, and you know, everybody wondering like why are you're doing what you're doing here. There's always something you always talk about which I was thinking hilarious is the name tag. Look it tells about that. Okay. This is it when you have your name tag on if they don't think you'd buy products. They do this who are you? And why you had to approve don't take my business card. So we I'm not gonna mentioned, but there's a competitor that you have from another country and I stood in a booth for five minutes. It was like being outside in the freezing cold. No came spoke to me. What did you do? I said I walk away from here. That's what I do and walk away from gear. So never soom people who have boosts me were in a be that someone come. You is not gonna look at your you can't judge a book definitely hit. You can't judge a book by its cover especially by Wednesday because the covers afraid 'cause you all your best clothes Monday and Tuesday. You wore your I'm going to impress you close on Wednesday. I'll give a damn I'm gonna to boost is gonna take an hour three hours to get there. Because you got to stop and say Hello to everybody that you met you before that you forgot, but you act like, you know, up. So how you oh God, how are you guys doing? So you still selling a buying? It's better to be honest in it'd be how you doing? I'm remember you do you have free stuff. Just started off that way. Exactly. And I think a big part of that too is just like, you know, the the digital round we've gone into. There's a lot more stars coming off from from online winters and all that stuff. So you never know who somebody is. So I feel just for my experience the the short six years I've been doing this. I've noticed a lot of the boosts have become a lot more flexible. Yup. As far as like talking to people were. Yeah. I would say the first couple of years. It was really like if you weren't in a business suit. If he didn't look like you were serious. They were kinda just brush off a young and win sweat suit. And they realize this my Google is my sump is my guru looking at. I was I was the tech guru like almost ten fifteen years ago. But you're praying after forty five your brain fries, and you can't remember a ball from a bike from a pixel from app from then they started talking about technologies that do I just want to know, what do please just gimme gimme destroy. They started talking about men. This camera has eighteen thousand dude, you know, what I know what you're talking about just say, it's bright. It's very bright use it outside. You got know you're talking to numbers an engineer to both. Of course, it's engineer war because like who's the smartest engineer. So that's a different sale. You could tell the engineers. So that comes with like this not impress. That's an engineer 'cause they want to show you that you can't stop them. And then the people just like man, I got a church we only have one, Mike. How can you help us? They don't need to know all the stuff that he's no, hey, man. I gotta mixer here. I got some nice devices can use when get you four cameras. Bam. That's how that works, right? Know who you're talking to now. I agree. How many times do you think you've been stops walking measles? The. Next year. And I know is rude. I'm gonna shirt, I'm here for tech. Not for you. It's. I'll just give me the wisdom because you're gimme twins day. I just want to days to get through because I'm just as excited. I'm a nerd like everybody else. Now, I'm gonna tell you. I didn't come out the closet for a long time as a black nerd I hit. I hit my ankle line. I hit my blurred. I hit my blurred. The one day said ill accept me for me. Don't hang with me. And I came out the nerd closet, and I told people, yes, I have technology. Just I have a server at my house. Yes. I have a three hundred Baud modem. I still keep it just in case. And I have a Newton from apple because one day I'm so to Japan for a lot of money. I have I have a two x SE thirty MAC. Yes. I have all that stuff. I have my cannon. Hi, eight cameras that got me started. So now, I was I was proud at first. But now, I just wish I could get to show a lot of people don't understand is. I'll take pictures, but cannot finish the comp. Sation sometimes you'll be in the middle conversation. Somebody's doing the demo Yosemite. Sindbad do this the best part of Denver with the last part. This is the best part, and Mr. demo, and then he has a washer demo, and they give him the card, and they give him all the stuff. And they say, hey, I gave it to your son because somebody was talking to me. Nobody was talking to me. But now, you've got gear what you look all this stuff. I'm Carrie, you'll gear that's that's your. I got little light a little light. A little light gave me the daddy. Like, so what the one thing did you like the most Pullman up one thing, I like the most I would probably say, I'm a little biased right now because I'm like all about mobile editing, and the easier things can be and all that stuff. So right now, I'm like I am team. Luma fusion touch. You'll see you see I'll tell you the best. And they started off they started off just she can edit on your on your little things like that. Yes. So since since they made that conversion over to be an actual like an elite on an ipad on your phone. I've been I've been all about that. Because for me, it's like the easier. Something could be the quicker. Something could be I'm I'm all for that. You know, I don't need all the bells and whistles. I can learn it I can use it. But at the end of the day if I just need to cut something real quick. And now I can do that on my own this year. So yes. So now, they're they've been adding a lot of stuff, and we're actually talking about that on the booby. They added. Now have up this six audio and video tracks. Yeah. Use. You get it from there. So you have the your you have your picture on the monitor and you can just edit on your ipad. Oh, frame I o integration, which has lost two coaches on the integration with our box. The new one when that box we got about the Narbonne. That's another one. It's been a big mystery. But we've had the old one the is coming and made you yes. The NAR box is going to change. Everybody's trying to digitize formation gun others little cards. The NAR box changes. Everybody's life for me. That's that's been. The most exciting thing is just. Boxton do. Oh, yeah. Well, the NAR box it pretty much. It's a it's a hard drive on steroids. So you can their new one you can plug in your ear. You're SD card. You can transfer your SD cards your see fats cards, all that stuff straight into the drive itself. It back up straight to the drive the hooks up to an app on your phone where you can back up that way drop everything on your ipad or your phone. So what what I'm trying to do is. I'm trying to record straight from my black magic pocket into the NAR bugs. Because it also does trans coding. So what I'm hoping to do is TransCo because black magic, you know, pro res-, and for whatever reason apple doesn't let you have Perez on your phones or for ipad because they have an attitude. So there's that compatible compatibility issue. So what I'm gonna do is just use that in theory use that record straight from my pocket Cam into the NAR box transferred all that stuff to where I can just edit straight on I've had fusion. So that's. That's the future for me. But I'm hoping. So I'm excited. We we're in line for the first NAR boxes because we wait the longest. We could I now take people doing wireless trying to shoot stuff in high. Go wireless, come up. Here said oh, come over here, man. Benjamin. So benjamin. Cinemax? EL piece of software been working on three and a half years. It's a live production studio on an ipad. You basically can livestream multi camera. Recording added it it's got a pretty much things you'd find an assistant ten times the price all runs on an ipad, really super powerful. It's a free app. You can use the. Free. I it's free for two cameras in the ipad. You can connect. And then the pro version is four cameras. It's twenty dollars a month. Joe? Okay. Production affordable, the hardware, and we can use with no hardware, but we can use a live u boxes an encoder or the cameras into our system. So it's a solid connection with do you have a booth here? Right behind us. Oh, we'll walk through this wall. Right. When this is not directly. The south to south pole south upstairs back there. S ten five ten as you Tim Tam and check it out. Common checker that's doing. I check that out. Benjamin. Thank you, so much my brother. We'll come next stuff, man. Thank you, man. Thank you so much, bro. See that's what makes any be worthwhile. We find a solution to what funding solution. We walked the hip, but mainly what we want is a solution to our problem. Like, how can I get my wife to let me put more game the house how my wife puts them servers. How can I take the during room and make that a big server room, and routers? Why can't I do that? You'd have to ask her. I don't know she likes you more you the sun. This. I don't think it's gonna end. Well, no, the company called Stipe s TYP motion. Tracking was crazy. It can track two people but one camera. So if you're doing the show is able to track to different individuals, but one camera kinda cool man as P S TYP Stipe. Okay. I found by accident because they had a spider logo spiders, someone over there. And there was some good technology men. What else we got? Okay. We got. We got the oh Teradata. Oh, yes. What with is it that you like the monster small HD small HD, and they have some new monitors that were it's a boat with a boat because now they're small HD's have the receivers built into. Yeah. So yeah. Mom can talk to marches receivers transmitters at Saint time now. So yeah, they're in the clarity of their monitors. Getting really good. Yeah. New tech always got gray style tomorrow too. So we can check out some more stuffed animals has some cool stuff. We should talk about Roadman. Oh, yeah. The new was a wireless go while the transmitters. Yup. So though. Yeah. Those really nice super super small compacts microphone bidding or you can plug in a wireless law to it and use it that way, and what's great is the transfer has a Mike itself. Yes. Built into it. Which is crazy Audio's X pretty good. Now, we use. Are we using our podcast? No, we're not using the row caster. It's over there. But it's it's over we been using rolling. The robot has row caster to do our own podcast is because they know everybody said how how do we podcast my love equipment? But I liked a lot have a lot of stuff one. You have four microphones. You got the eight bunch like radio stations. You able to the best part a phone call you can plug your phone in. And now you can have a phone. First phone call coming to three phone over. Bluetooth, which is great shot. Are I are we recorded? Our first episode was right in the living room without even trying it out we just plug it in and I hit on a little buttons. And most of sounds. I didn't need they weren't appropriate for when I was doing, but they were there. And that's the main thing when we coordinate programs be whatever we want. Let's say here does anybody. Here. Have a good story of oh. Come on up. What does that is this yours? Did you pay the twenty five dollars feet twenty five feet? To show you stuff. Five dollars. You didn't get you didn't get the twenty. You have an animal that's hurt. No come on. He uses. I've got their waterproof, JIMBO talk coun- best. See if you can buy. Okay, I'm Tom Cowan from Acton, California. And just an independent do a lot of cool stuff off the side. I'm actually an IT guy for school district Seneca Reto school district. But I went to the website and got the Vimba lls waterproof, JIMBO for go pros in the smaller devices. I have in my bag as well. Okay. And I brought it over to get a repair because a screw came loose. It strip on accident, which was simple. It was a harbor issue. And this is the one for your cell phone. The just as a Han hill extendable neck on it. So instead of having a traditional JIMBO that you can walk around with you can extend this out almost a foot and get better cell fees and a little more each so something they turned me onto that know pay for it. But they helped me out with it who got a good deal on it. So it's just another gadget. Add to the hardware that we all have our bags full of stuff that we get Tom thing. So much. Appreciate years. Twenty five dollars over. You can leave the visible there. If you want. If we're going to take it with us, it's ours now. Now, anybody else seen anything that they found worthwhile? Okay. This right here. How long how long have you done shows? Actually, let's come up here. Yeah. I wanna get some advice on the best way. Say you only had say you only have one day one. Because that's a lot of people only get Monday was a big day. How do we came in one time? We messed up on the last day. We didn't know it close to know. It was over before opening. We got dead new. We got to five it's a no man is to two o'clock even that you in. No good. They'll take your money to last minute. They'll take your cash to what to forty five. So tell me if a personally at one day, how did they do this don't make it the first day don't do that? Because you can't even you can't get through the floor to crazy. So what you have to do is this show and a lot of other shows they have in that. So you download for talking about NABC download the show app, and you identify companies you like, right? Like you like road. All right. You like. These guys over they are you jump on the app, and you identify some companies that you like and you find their booths are at oh. So you got to you got the favored at everything when I went to look for my favorite. They said no favorites every year. Anybody changes the app? The main screen is always great. They changed. The main screen. They have a floor plan actually have acquisition that displaces the management pro radio said, and then when I tried to figure where you can I didn't realize that was a question Mark because if you go to the wrong place, and then to associate with not that you search for the whole place. So I spent a week before I came here working with SO. Maybe my advice to you would be a little bit different. Yes. Maybe maybe don't get the at. No, you get the you find ten of the companies that you know, were good every right, right? The numbers in my note, there is then you know, what else has I don't know if you've found that yet. There's a map in there. Yeah. We did that and I stood there with a matter and said, how do I get over there? Now. Listen, I have no sense of direction myself. I'm going to be very honest. But I'll tell you what the map does. That's really cool. Right. When you open the map it knows where you are. And you could walk there on the floor. Now, I don't know the north the south, but you could see where the booth is. And where you are. And if you just are walking the wrong way, you'll know you're going the wrong way. 'cause I download the wrong app. No. That's yeah. No. Because we tried to find. This is what it shows you on the map. Yeah. Show me where was not tried to go. You can't go there. You didn't pay enough money? Tried to. I it showed me new. I was I said, but I know what am I'm trying to find this company may maybe it's a little more confusing. Yeah. See the real the real top level advice is you have to identify ten companies that you want to go to you only have one day. So we'll do the we'll do the hard math here. So let's say you spend a half hour at ten companies that five hours. Do. That's why I never can make it to everything I've never done. I never make it to mothers like thirty forty places. I never make it. Well, the other thing is the halls right to walk from central hall. The south hall that's fifteen minutes and without shoes. It's probably a little bit takes a little long. Let me ask you. This is cheating. If you stayed the west gate hotel, and you Uber. Sophos? No shame. Shame is that it would take you longer to get the Uber then to just walk to the overdue ways. So he was downstairs after we. Job me up and south hall. I said I'll be done in six and he wastes for me of there. So you haven't weighed all the meters running all day. He he works until you know, I'm on at six he'll just roll up. And then you again in Uber lot you post me called. He just comes in real fast illegal and we get in. So you'd be talking about this stuff publicly. I don't know this second episode. Maybe they won't see it. No gloss over this one. No. So I liked it. Ten ten shot Hove hours sets five hours. But then what happened? You know? How it is. Right. Yeah. You wanted to go see one game. But you didn't realize they were fourteen Kimball vendors next to the one so you're gonna get sidetracked. So now you need sidetrack time. Right. So the shows open ten to six about rights at ten six. Right. So they shut down five thirty mentally. No. And the hate that you came into booth at five forty five. Well, it's I mean, it's Wednesday. So see that's the other thing too. Every day the mental shutdown times a little bit earlier. You know, got you. So Monday was five thirty by today by lunch. It was it was like this. What do you want to know to take the brochure and tomorrow, they're on? Tomorrow there on the delta app, just hitting refresh. Time. Okay. So figure you have your, you know, your browse time. And then you hit your vendors because you always gonna find something. All right. But that's I think that's the best way to hit the show in one of those smart. Can we always we always suffer the time? When we landed at noon, we sales hit three booths. And we got we were able but but the three became six because they're trying to run around a little bit. And I did speak to people on. I mean, don't you like to talk to people make before these people I talked to. But when I was going on you when you got twelve to two if you are, you know, no, no. And I run away and people were talking they do this. This is the nudge. Okay. Say you're talking right with doing this. And you're gonna show that you're talking you doing a demo. Hey, man. What's up? Let's see when I'd made my AB plans. I didn't have to build in Sindbad time. I didn't have to do that today without me. He loved my own. He left me said he goes to these shows. I'm I'll be right back. He'll come back with every booth. He had to hit I'm at the same booth. Let me at he said where are you said? I'm just about to walk up at booth. Much easier. See I didn't realize that. So you have a little little so sa- figure. Maybe now you down to eight mentors. How many how are today was the do central our dream to show we're gonna hit the entire central? We hit like maybe two booths before we came down here to to because people just kept piling in. And then like once one person comes in. They see that. And they just keep coming coming coming. We started Google but Luma enor- box because the it was twelve hundred they're against the wall all the way. No. Here. You might wanna think about like Donald Trump mask and everybody leave you alone, or they might come up on me kill you. But that's different. That's a new tech. Five G tech sixty sixty or so, you know, we're not gonna go to sixty. I'm going to be alive with sixteen. I'm going to five G, and I'm staying there. How much faster do we how much more can I download how much more stuff can? I put them a phone and only bad thing about five G is going to spoil people ten years old and under because one day five jeez. I could be running to like this. You have a signal. No man, you got four G speed. Now, they won't know what to do. Like, I said we start. We started with three hundred Baud modems. We would have families at night when you try to get online and your wife hurt. They knew you will online. They knew your online. What were you? What were you doing in the early days you had the Netscape where are you at AOL wouldn't here yet? I was doing what it was the one. She's probably the whale. The well was for property Sears was probably remembered and then CompuServe put an will put a free CD, and every magazine shoe cereal box. You can get everybody have free everything, you know, what it was this is in the early days. So you've got those you don't wanna throw him out because I'm getting free technology. Do I still have a stat? Right. I still my staff, but then there came today like, well, what do I do with all the AL two point? Oh cd. Like, what do I do it? Those sold them too stupid people. Is the two point. Oh, this you gotta get on this right now. Don't you know, what before before they will say, remember, mosaic shakes everything was? There was no graphics yellow. There was no graphics Silicon Graphics. I had had SGI machine didn't show SEI the onyx the onyx ten thousand twelve thousand fifty thousand machine. Now, this does the honest, and it, but they were the ones and realize some brothers started that company, Omar Oiseaux and all these guys some brothers. Really smart brothers started with SGI, man. And that's when the world started to change because they had a room about this big with a cool off the big computers all the graphics work was done in there. And then when these laptops out. Say we can't compete with the new software and graphics of the small cards. But that was that was to be the world we were in. I still have my iris indigo that purple. I won't get rid of. It is such a beautiful machine. It can't do anything. No. The gave it to me. Do I tell you, dude? I'm a pimp a pimp for technology. I got some EMC squirts Roberson service a pimp I have NorTel equipment because I did show them. But I used to be okay. So you drop a name. Raj. Look like man what what's going on is like really probably turn into Ziam like all the old tax that you just collect all over looking. You're looking up your address right now. Okay. Now, he no he knows what happened to your games that you want to cry. They threw out. Oh, yeah. Have we did have an incident where we the process of moving all my all my old say Genesis toss Nintendo super toss all got tossed out. Not us people. That didn't understand the value toss the second Genesis who mess with sonic it. I don't know. So this day. I don't know we like. We like. We got volume. They tossed out by apple to affects my SE thirty the first portable MAC that looked like a so machine they threw that out through a Newton out. Dude. I was out. I I'm still that family member knows no longer with us. You don't spend about this conversation. This is like when when guy guys sit around like, yeah. You know, my mom. She throwing my Mickey Mantle. Yes. It would have bought me a house in the Hamptons, and we're like deal Sega sonic recipe, sonic that he lost Sunday. His oh that everything I lost on it. Never got him. I have a sadder story bitcoin when it first came out. Nobody will bitcoin was right. It was just a joke. It was like drug dealers gunrunners member it was made for the dark web. It was made to pass money around. So there's a, you know, you got your your password. You couldn't keep you keep it. So wherever people were scared to write it down. So you had to put in three different places because once that passed what's going you can't ever get their money, racial cat. Whistle. Bitcoin worth. I think today was worth twenty million dollars on a laptop. He didn't write down got stolen ripped off his laptop. He used the find my laptop found his laptop the girl has scripted. He broke down and cried they had to put him an institution for two months. He had a nervous breakdown because he'll never get as like twenty million dollars that just swimming out in universe that he'll never get back twenty million dollars. That's crazy. I think we'll take a moment of silence silence. Where do you where do you even go from there? Exactly what you how what do you go after that? Will you tell people I used to have twenty million dollars? You. There's your life is done. Well, the good news is he's out of the home because Bitcoin's not worth anything anymore. So that's true. It's all good. I did then we do it. We were farming. Do we got caught up? We were. Yes. In the garage. Forbid theorem out. Yeah. With the tech. What's next? What's next for you? What I wanna do? Okay. This look at tech first of all movie TV production. I wanna be I call it. If you can't put it in the backpack on it. I won't be able to move if I can't put in a backpack. I don't want it. I want to be portable as possible. I won't be able to shoot movies. I'm going to shoot video I won't be able to do social media. So that's on that side. So I'm always looking to new ways like black magic cameras, whatever I can use the live you l u six hundred. Yes backpack. Yes. Just saying I'll tell you the library live. You is a friend. And we haven't no we did we jumped out early. We use it. You know, you get it was like toy we use it everywhere. And then I said I got to plug it in. Now, you get lazy. I mean, we get lazy to take time. So now, I've learned for people like me ADHD high level highs level they have tested. Sirius ancient for you just through the agent for me anybody here that thinks like that give yourself your options. Don't have a bunch of options. Give yourself don't wait. What is the perfect editing software? What is the perfect camera? Get yourself one and start shooting get yourself. Some tech do the research because you can always improve later. The main thing is to get stuff done because a lot of things to Texas people always tell you what the have they always say what you have. But people that are broke tell you what they did. They said all I had was this at this is what I did. So I started while I wash people have less access than me, they had less options, and they got more done or I could say my son is that everybody has some my son is the one I need by the push me. You need somebody going. Let's do today. The sugar today. We we started this podcast blurred empire blurred empire. We start this. Ago. Follow us on your. We're sitting in the TV room said, let's do it. Now, we just had this. He took it out the box win the dining room. My daughter was with us or boyfriend get one done. I said, let's shoot it right now. Let's go do it now. So now, I'm always had this. I had it in a bag if you put something like this in the bag, it's an zipped up bag gonna wrote you never pull it back out some saying, it's like musical instruments. Have you stuff out? We can play. Have you technology set up cynical? Like, oh, God, you missed a moment. I found out always technology charged up. So let me ask you this though. What don't you have what what why are you at? You know what? I was missing missing Cinemax. I was looking for that that thing. He's gone. Nope. I still I still want to give his company love. I think a missing something. Like this something simple that type stuff in. I am going pick up the sling box. I am going to do that. I said Frank sling studios. I'm still. I'm so I'm old school sling box record. You can I was on the road. You record your shows at home, you can watch on the row, but the technology it took over your TV at home. So my wife will be watching TV start changing channels, and she called me really thought you mean bed by now by bad. You know, what that was for that? That's what broke a pro college kids because what you do is you see your parents house, right? That's right. Yeah. Then you didn't need TV over at the new place, right? School. Yeah. Because most asked go to bed at ten nerds. Don't go to sleep. We don't we don't. We don't sleep. We stay up. Always remind you always if you guy you always fixed. Somebody's problem. So my culture three morning you'll man you up. See look me, and my live you trying to oh plug it in my bad. We're talking about that with editors editors how tough life if you're an editor you haven't you haven't seen sleep before four AM. He did. Yeah. Muslims SaaS mate at its rights colorization, I'm realizing now you gotta hire people that do this every day because that's what they do better than you. And they have shortcuts like Davinci. I liked the Davinci sixteen I love what they're doing. I like the fairlight system you love you love that. It's free. I like those free. But I liked it. It works free to don't work might as well, not be free. But I like that fairlight system used to be one of the most expensive audit map was a fifty thousand dollar system. The whole remember that more than one hundred thousand what Stevie Wonder had like three at his house up here a quarter because we just right and now the free is a free piece of so so you don't understand I don't even know you understand. It was before pro tools fair. It didn't work. It wasn't even good and Stevie at three three two of them are just sitting there gathering dust because he had a new one. It was just leave it there. Steve. He's got a lot of money though. Steve we got a lot of money and only has to now because he didn't see me get it. I was going to go though, I was going to go there. But I left it for you. I left that one right alone. So that's what blows my mind to technology that just got so cheap. We spent. Okay, ten megabyte hard drive. I you said I can't feel this up. My first twenty megabyte hard drive said one would do it. All this crap. What am I going to do it on where was it to grand three grand Jesus Christ? Remember that first ipod? Oh god. It's been I still got my I still do a look. I know that is. Yeah. We still got it. You got mine. Yeah. No. You haven't boroughs there sixty four. Phil. I don't know if it's still work everything I have worked. I don't I don't break. I don't yet. Right. Snake or whatever. But wasn't that sixty four megabytes sixty four mega. Oh, so much music some us music. That's one video now. It's but it shows you, okay? I think those maybe forty five over I think we bridge the gap. We saw would it became. I think there's an advantage to know. It was like the to edit film when the people had to do film. So we know what this means that you don't have to do it. We know what engineers have done. I think sometimes Hollywood people young people go like, it's not the quickest to do, you know, what it took to get that you you're so busy if you can do better. Why don't you want you code and do a better? This is when people have run movie companies don't understand. Now, there's a a love affair between tech and entertainment and the finally talk of each me tech was over here. And then the other people here, and they never spoke. Now tech is creative tech make an old movies. Okay. Avatar he wrote that. And there was no technology for it. He wrote the movie said we got developed this. And I liked it. They like it's like watching Tron now. Now, Sean not back, Sean. But now Trump what would we talk about? Would now the woods brain of Christopher Walken Natalie woops driven Hines storm brace. Don't you see that? Now, I want to remake that now. I heard a story today. They have make it bad, boys. Three right now. So bad boys two was and they how long ago was that fifteen at least fifteen right now at least thirteen years ago that was too. I heard right now all the gear they got the amount of cranes and motion control heads and stuff. They because they're going to blow it out the box. But you'd think about it. I'm like batboys went into so. I don't know how much more we need because sometimes I miss to some of the stunt men. I know we know we CG generating. I know we're making crazy stuff the cranes. But I have no problem with that. But one or two did you I did the story. Sometimes the technology gets way too story. So he said, how do we not sometimes we we can't wait to have tech? Like man, I can do man. I do a slider now and get their shot, or when you broke just learned to move like this when you broke you are you are the slider man, you know, saying you other slide scale that like that. Yeah. Oh, this is roller skates. Skateboards? So you can't roller skate though, you the worst cameraman eight which brought me where Regan shopping cart put the camera in the shopping cart that will say yet. Right. Yeah. Dalai that was his Dali. So you don't want to for is. All right. Yeah. That's that's the one that the homeless person stole and brought it back if they caught him is. It's jacked up this act up, man. So are you hate now where right now is that what's happening now man, we're supposed to do some cool stuff. I'm mad that he's the genie in Aladdin about if you're in a bottle, you'd be older like me, we'll too young to be old geniune about I would be an old genie in a bottle addition for that you didn't even bring it up to me, man. That's what I'm doing my Christian vampire? Oh, you know, what everybody thinks Kazam? They said, I did it a genius should Zam Zam has never been a genie. If you know, this Zam Interprise is a superhero is not a genie. Then you insult me. By getting a new she Sam, I got I got catch all this crap. Zam? And now, I can't be sure I could be Zams mentor like the old dude species now. Oh do do. You careful out there. Couldn't they couldn't get a one day on say been great. Well, you can fly fast. Just some. I think they missed missed their chance on that one Washington. I haven't seen it yet by Ceasar Tom yet. I've heard good things about it. I heard it's set records. Yeah. That's suppose to be doing. I'm gonna check it out. Boycotting boycott already. They didn't get my money the first weekend. All right without me. Anyway, so records, right? Well, I actually have a question. What would you say out of all the years you've been at any? What was like the one year that completely blew your mind where the technology whatever they were announcing was like insane. Trying to think new tech blew my mind when they had the big booth black magic, blew my mind. When I I saw the cameras. The silver box silver box at blue blood Bouma mind, canon cameras Monroe when the DS. Five when they start coming out with God, we can make movies member, which only could shoot for how long before shutdown sixty seconds minute. Four minutes before it was shut down. Yes. It's well, remember. Now, we saw man and what they say is digital. So that was beginning of that's what got me excited and there's a guy named moon cricket. He's online. He was working for Sony. He was shoot all this stuff with Sony cameras. That was the beginning of what blew my mind. Would you would you say that about the movie the first Kimball McCall, four became get the gizmos? Adam I now wants to know move. I saw the new movie Moby was the first Kimball, but it was the company they had the they had all the tripods and and cranes. It was a small company Kessler. Verizon, man, I had that at the crane that you wrapped around your ways, you pain to win the pouts. They destroy the platelets. As the one that turned up. Side down. But they were the beginning. There's room was the head of a lot of people for independent filmmakers. I always respect those who came out with the early stuff saying this consuming video maker magazine was member it was used to have their own little world they had their own Expos. And I learned a lot from video maker magazine as progress and came over to people making movies, and she didn't film video and film with two supper things, it would know what a big revolution. Was that? The private booth with the red camera. There was a private poof. Private coup. The red camera had a proud of booth and the moon a man for Oakley sunglasses was there and Jackson had just done Kim comb, and it was showing the red camera that everybody could own the camera and the you buy the accessory. It was forty five thousand dollars, but it started at three thousand dollars. But if you wanna lend some buttons forty five thousand dollars to slot where the media have sports another five dollars. Oh, sixty five thousand dollars. But that was red camera was to begin like Oma guy numbers old my head. Rod the red one. Yes. You can get one of those today. Now, it's cheap. Yeah. Now, you can get it. Now, you can get it. But member that's when Comdex was ES was Comdex, just computer shows, and it will. So it was a small niche market people that did video and film, first of all they laughed at digital editing. I remember guys would come over from avid. To watch foul Cup. Pro and Sydney clashes the dog. Apple is it fair to say though, that there are no more barriers. There are no more barriers of entry. Now. It's all about creative anybody's anybody. Can do it anybody that says, I don't have the money doesn't want to do this. Somebody say, I don't know what to do do like I said start with anything star Wicha camera style or some chump camera. Get your phone care. What you got? So. No, you're right. There's there's no barriers. There's no barriers to any any part is business that you want to be in. And I I would just tell people man, you know, what when you walk around for me when you walk around, and it'd be heavy general idea of what you wanna do like, I say, if I wanna make movies, I need, okay. With any of the camera. I need some way to edit walk around with a general idea and then new happens. It almost presents itself to you. And then you find out I can't afford that don't even look at you can afford because it messes you up there's nothing worse than going to a booth and go, oh, man. What can they do on? Which is that the entry level is ninety six hundred dollars next. Could you unscreened me? Could you take my name up there this? So what's next? What's next tomorrow? We're gonna try to sweep up for you just fallen him around. That's a lot of weight. Yeah. Mainly mainly because like, we're also working on a web series. We just launched step so called on the road with Sindbad. So that's another thing I'm doing too. So I'm shooting him while we're traveling around. So I'm also looking at tech. Yeah. It'll help with that to make it easy. Where do you find that web series on YouTube just started his YouTube channel it's called the world, according to imbed, and it's going to be a whole bunch of content. But the first thing we're doing now it's on the road with Sindbad. So you can go to YouTube the world according to Sindbad, and that's where you'll find him or you can just go to his Instagram at sim, bad bad. Because I don't remember. Well, Matt everybody needs to pin. Right. And we got our guy blurred empire blurt emulator at blurred empire, literally Facebook, twin something all that. Well, thank you. I would think live you. I appreciate so much a right show. Like, you said that sang out from blurred empire. Cool. All right. Thank you. Thanks, guys. This is awesome.

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January 17, 2020 - Peacock's Streaming Strategy Decoded, Breaking TV News From TCA and an Interview with 'The Good Fight' and 'Evil' creators Robert and Michelle King

"Welcome back to. TV's top five the Hollywood reporter's TV. podcast I'm Lesley Goldberg. West Coast TV editor. And I'm joined as usual by our chief TV critic and my partner in crime. Mr Daniel Feinberg Heinberg. What's Shakin Dan Press? Press press tour that occasionally on the side a little bit more press tour and then sometimes we have to leave press tour to listen to a peacock investment investment. Thing Bob so yeah. It's been a real slow news week in case you haven't been following along on twitter leslie being sarcastic. Yeah I mean comcast has pulled back the curtain on peacock and this is by far. One of the busiest press tours in ages and Netflix is still putting out news. And then you know our Greg Berlanti. It has had a big week to several shows currently on. TV Yeah well before we get into T. CA and all of the ongoing from there. Let's take a look at some of the big headlines from outside aside press tour. What do you say Dan Jurors will? That's had pressed her though. I think so starting off their Oscar. Nominations way does that in our purview. Or Not on TV Dan. We talked about it before fine. That is true and we already discussed last week that they are going hosts once again and of course there were the usual wide assortment. Urban of snobs and fortunately many of the people involved have been coming through press doors so we got to ask Aquafina how she felt about the the conspicuous snubbing of Both the farewell. We're well as a movie. It's director writer her purse supporting actor colleagues etc.. So she was fairly. I don't know philosophical. I guess the way that they probably look at it that it was a little movie at Sundance and they were surprised that got the attention did so who needs Oscar attention but the fair well deserved attention. and I'm over on the casting fronts. there was a big shocker in the world of Grey's anatomy which at least to me is still important Justin Chambers one of the last four original series his regulars from season one the pilot leaving and he's already film his last episode and it was very just unceremonious. The whole thing makes absolutely really no sense he. He's spent fifteen seasons plus and obviously done the first half of season sixteen. It's a very long run with no statements from Shonda largely. Most of the cast have been really quiet. It's very odd And I would assume that eventually there will be a truth that will come out about things but I assume you're nowhere near being able to speculate. I am not able to speak. I have made some calls that I will say. No one is talking within the world of Sean Land so well I mean. That's pretty remarkable. Honestly that showed that is in its sixteen season still had four people who have been on since the very beginning. That's Shudder Wilson. James Pickens and Meredith Grey Ellen. Pompeo I understand she does in fact have a real name. It's just sort of blanked. mcdonagh was amazed I was able to come up with the other two. Actually I think he got a little. I think we both have a little press tour brain going on so in other casting news. Mark Paul Guzzler will return for three episodes of peacocks saved by the Bell Revival and we will have of course much more on peacock coming up after headlines so much more in other castings at Amazon Richard Madden and Priyanka Atropine Jones will star in the Russo brothers global events series. which now has a title it's called Citadel over it stars method man has joined Mary? J. Blige and the Cable Networks Power Spinoff M. E. T. H. O. D. N. E. Teenage. Ot Sir whatever. I want again saying last week. I'm singing this week. Listen if you're going to sing every week I'm just GonNa Start Talking because I'm here for all of it and in any case method joining a anyway so yes but I like reading this week in Greg Berlanti News Heart One heart one of this weekend. Greg Burland busy week for Grad Merle. Anti as opposed to all of those really quiet weeks for regular deflects has renewed his pen Badgley. Lee Starker drama you for a third season so get ready to stay in love with that crazy crazy man elsewhere at net flex Big Bang theory. CO-CREATOR BILL Brady has signed an overall deal with the streamer properties had been without an overall deal for some time now. But it's good. Get for them. It's a veteran show runner. He's GONNA create new projects a lot a lot in the world world of sci-fi and he'll groom up and coming writers and he's had quite a grew and in showrunner exits. lizzie McGuire Creator Terry. Minsk is departed the Disney plus update after the extremer filmed two episodes and decided to go in quote a different creative direction and put a new lens on the show. So that's very upsetting news for most of Your Generation Z.. And millennial colleagues additionally Amazon's Jack Ryan is bringing in its third show runner ahead of season three with von Wilmot replacing Paul shirring during no drama there with all that out of the way. Let's dive into this week's top. Five number one leading off and before we get into headlines. Peacock formerly pulled back the curtain on its launch plans with a two hour presentation to investors these presentations becoming so frequent. We had Disney and Apple Apple. TV plus an HBO. Max and peacock is the latest one and then whatever queasy eventually going to probably do. What did you think of the peacock presentation and we can get into some of the actual facts afterwards but sees how it ended about twenty minutes ago? Yeah no definitely becoming accustomed to the rhythms of these presentations which are a little a bit like Circadian Rhythms. Because they put you to sleep very very quickly Yeah it definitely. It is worth noting that these presentations are of course for investors and people of that ilk and not really and truly for people of our real. So it's not supposed to entertain us when they talk about concepts like like our PU. I don't know what are who stands for but I love saying are Pu but yeah they you know they've basically they've they found their various themes and they repeated them ad nauseam and so the key theme that they wanted to go with is Is Free and so free and that was what I was able to take away from. That is that this is going to be free. except I'm probably GONNA end up paying for it. Yeah basically. If you're a comcast subscriber the service is free. It will have ads on it for free. And they made a big point of saying that episodes will have a grant of five minutes of advertising per hour per hour which is interesting and if you're a comcast subscriber and you don't want the five minutes of ads per hour you can pay five dollars for an ad free service that is on top. Though of the five dollars you'd be paying for the premium version of the service. So if you're yeah it's it's yeah. It's a little confusing. It's five dollars. Additional premium service and then five dollars additional for ad free free so it's ten dollars if you want premium and free. I don't WanNa say it's holy confusing because that would be HBO. Max I still don't have a clue what's happening with that a- all I disagree I think peacock is more confusing because and it's because of this tiered pricing structure that whatever you're going to play if you're gonNA pay premium or you're going to have the low end. Whatever they're just plain old peacock they're gonna put different types of programming in every bucket? So if you want I would presume a high profile show Joe like battle star Galactica or doctor death which got the strongest applause in the room. I would imagine those are going to be in the top tier so you'll have to pay to get those so it's basically a premium streaming service. I'm not sure that's how I read what they were saying. I could be wrong. I don't imagine because they want. It sounded like they really really want people to emphasize the freeness. So that you can actually watch ads but I I would be surprised to pay five dollars to get the top tier things but it was hard right to tell from the way they were putting it. They a lot of the things that are most used to consumers. Were not things they wanted to discuss like. They didn't WanNa talk about what the rule out plan is involving original original scripted programming. That was just not a thing. They wanted to directly get into but we do have launch dates over the launch. If you're comcast subscriber it launches April Fifteenth Gene. If you're not a comcast subscriber launches around the Olympics July fifteenth nationally so this is a domestic only services to start similar to many of the other streamers in how they launched two and what we also learned as part of the presentation is. They're going to get a huge chunk of the Dick Wolf Library so they're going to get the entirety of law and order. SVU That's twenty one seasons and counting select episodes from the flagship series law and order select episodes from criminal intent and all three Chicago show so Chicago. PD Chicago. Med and Chicago. Fire sources say that the deal is worth between three hundred million and four hundred million. So we're going to just start a new segment that's called it. They make how much as part of the Dick Wolf deal. That these shows will be non-exclusive to start Hulu for example continues to stream law in order. Svu has had and has the full library there and they quiet quietly renewed that deal. I believe one of the peacock eggs mentioned that a lot of these deals. We'll be up in two years so the goal will probably be to eventually have everything on their service exclusively so yeah definitely does them no good to have lots of the things you want already existing on Hulu but that's how these things go a lot of the things I thought were most interesting. Were the things. They emphasized in terms of sports because because they're launching the side of the Olympics. Because they really really want people to watch Olympics programming through peacock they promised such things. As exclusive events live events events earlier documentaries that Cetera than they also mentioned lots of premiership soccer games and other things like that. So you know they. We're trying to hook you in various and sundry ways I think perhaps the most interesting thing that they talked about was what they're going to be doing with their too late night programs programs. I thought that was Kinda fascinating. Actually yes both Jimmy Fallon and Seth Meyers shows will be available on peacock hours before they premiere on. NBC for for the First Time Yeah at at eight PM Eastern time so if you wish to watch late night in prime time before primetime. That's five o'clock our time. Five o'clock Tuck our time So you know it's your best chance to watch late night show in prime time since the quality days the Jay Leno show so good times. NBC Good Times. They have had a slew of others street series announcements they had. There's one accommodate from Tina fey. They picked up punky brewster series. They rolled out a A really the interesting looking six show development slate with with projects from Amy Poehler and Norman Lear and Mindy Kaeling plus developing gruber comedy with will forte. There's a law that they're doing One thing that I thought was odd as part of this presentation was something that they didn't mention and that is and filed this under they make. How much is Seth Macfarlane? He just signed on Friday he closed. What sources as a two hundred million dollar overall deal with? NBC Universal taking him out of his longtime longtime home at Twentieth Century Fox television he's going to create and develop new projects for peacock and other cable networks as part of the NBC. Fold sources say. He's particularly interested in develop for sci-fi which is like I mean that's cool for sci-fi because they definitely need something flashy but yeah. That's a huge deal for them. I mean he's created a multi multi billion dollar franchise and he had no partner peacock presentation. I guess we didn't have something specifically that they wanted to use as the tip of these up McFarland Iceberg to announce announce that makes sense. Because it's not like they're getting his library so you know they're getting they're getting the future concept of Seth Macfarlane much more than. They're getting things that he actually actually is associated with with people. I mean they're they're getting the seth McFarland of the Orrville so right but and he's an he'll act in other things develop things. And what's interesting about this deal to is unlike the Shonda rhimes and Ryan Murphy netflix steals. They'll still sell to third party outlets. So that means if seth has a show that he comes up up with an he says you know what this one feels like it should be on Hulu. NBC You will sell it to Hulu and they'll sell out to competitor so it it it truly is the best of both both worlds and he'll continue to maintain his current shows so. TBS Comedy Animated Comedy. American Dad just got renewed for two seasons this tour the ORRVILLE which is coming up for season three on Hulu. It's I there. After two on Fox he'll continued on that one and of course family guys in the first of its two season renewal at the broadcast network over at Fox so But whether the Cleveland show. Yeah well that wraps up Our our peacock segment. It's a lot to get through and obviously still developing many more stories to come as people find Find different angles on this one but my big takeaway is that they're not trying to compete with the likes of an HBO Max or a net flex but instead Hulu do and even youtube definitely that is who it sounds like they're competing against it's still a little perplexing to me but ultimately these things are all we're just gonNA come this spring and we're going to sit in a corner and cry that takes us to our second topic this week Dan. It's almost time for us to see daylight again. Ta Ca is in the final stretch and there has been a lot of news number two. I'm GonNa say that again. There is a lot of news use. It feels like those two weeks around the holidays where nothing happened. This is like penance for not working those two weeks I worked a lot of those two weeks. I didn't there was no news. Nothing was happening but now it's all happening. I've never seen anything like this. This is like it's truly peak breaking news. Well let's get to sum up. I at Amazon Amazon. Among other things picked up. Jack reacher two series. I asked them about whether they were GonNa make a commitment to actually casting some fun six-foot-five in between in two hundred ten and two hundred and fifty pounds to play Jack reacher as opposed to Tom Cruise and Jen psaki said that they were going to put in a lot of effort to looking and that they knew that there. They were big shoes to fill but she didn't exactly say that they were GonNa do it. According to my twitter feed of popular contenders to play Jack reacher include hold mcclenny Leaney who Who is now available after? Apparently Netflix is not moving forward with a third season of manhunter as of now not true So they do want to make the third season. David fincher is busy doing another project for Netflix. And they didn't want to hold the cast to their deals which would have been troublesome for them to book other things during this. This is kind of iffy period but everyone involved wants to do a third season. It's just you know this is a case where you have a producer who steers the creative on this. That can't can't and doesn't want to juggle multiple things so imagine if Greg Berlanti said I'm only GonNa do this green lantern show and I don't WanNa do anything else right now because this show is so important and to me. That's what's happening here so it's not mine. Hunter is cancelled. It's just kind of it's in limbo like a lot of other shows. I appreciate the clarification. Surely the listeners do and mostly it still is available to do this because it's not coming anytime soon but then again people also suggested such contenders as armie hammer and cousin Greg from succession. which probably probably not going to happen? Still at Amazon. They said overall deals with Brad Pitt Steve McQueen and tag. Al Garcia Bernal and Diego Luna and they announced the Lord of the Rings cast asked headed by a bunch of people. You probably have not heard of. But all of their names are in our story over a T. H. R. dot com speaking of streamers over at Warner media. They had their first very very full day across the company with presentations from HBO Max Executives they had TNT and TBS and there was a lot going on so steven soderbergh sign an overall deal with HBO. Hbo Max Adam McKay US that has a scripted anthology focusing on climate change that Kevin Reilly compared to to Black Mirror over TBS. We already talked about seth. Macfarlane's American Dad getting picked up for two more seasons. That takes us through. Its its eighteenth season in in twenty twenty two and three hundred episodes screws. Yeah and we'll have more on sets busy January shortly over at TNT. Sound the train. Dan took snow. Pierce Has Premier Day k May thirty-first while his significant that's significant because because it's been in the works for five years to show runners to pilot directors to networks answering for season two so we asked the show runner grandparents in about the delays at the top of his TCI panel. You know there was a little spin in that but I'm happy to report that we did sit down on with him for an upcoming show runner spotlight and he was very and that'll the available on this podcast. In say five months is coming in match so try to get your enthusiasm them up. It's coming in May assuming that the show sticks to a May thirty first premier date which totally we believe it will because you know why would they lie. Yeah definitely premiere on TNT. They still have what form you know. Four or five months to decide that is actually better for HBO. Max But I digress one other big takeaway from Kevin Riley time before press you know I asked Zim about the status of the friends reunion. Special still maybe they. They all want it to happen. Obviously we talked about it. You know that this is nothing is set in stone and it's going to rely on everyone's schedules. Yeah it's still being worked out and then also still being worked out is the fate of audience network in DC UNIVERSE CINEMAX and cinemax doesn't look good for any of them. Obviously we know that they pull the plug on audience network. Riley said they're still considering if those originals are gonNA move to Max. DC Universe already has at least one original. Oh that's moving AMAC's that's doom patrol and it's going to have a dual window on Max and DC Hugh and with cinemax. What they said was that they're basically playing out the string on the shows that they already pretty haven't have already been ordered which to the best of my knowledge mostly means warrior and jet? I jet this sort of in limbo. I don't think it's been officially cancelled or anything else. So it's out there air and it sounds as if there will be no future new cinemax originals. Which means Max's just GonNa sit there showing movies which you you know? It worked out well for a number of years so so it goes well. Let's move onto the Viacom. CBS own networks and it was a parade of networks coming through here under that umbrella. Dan Be it was indeed so over at showtime shameless has been picked up for the eleventh end. The important part final season at showtime which is also returning work in progress and the L.. Were Generation Q for season. Two as someone who is still very much enjoying shameless. It's time it's been time make. This season could have very easily been the following. The family of an how they adapt to losing Emmy Rossum. You could end it here. The seasons not been particularly great. But I'm not critic I'm only a fan over at. CBS All access star. Trek Picard has been renewed for a second season with work on season three already underway as stay tuned to the podcast guest really just next week when we have a fun sit down with Pulitzer Prize winning author Michael Chaban. We've been a lot. Dan Lots of showrunner interviews. There's a lot of breaking news tons ends of panels. It's been a really busy to or beyond the headlines so speaking of CBS and one of the bigger headlines out of the network which didn't have an executive session Alex Churchmen men who are obviously is producing picard is teeming with CBS. To develop clarisse silence of the lambs TV sequel written by Yep Alex Kertzman written mm by Nope not Bryan Fuller and therefore not associated with Hannibal and therefore my interest is. Let's just say tempered but I could suddenly become really excited by that if they caster really well so who knows and in one of the bigger announcements out of TCI comedy central has locked up Daniel Tosh and his tosh point zero for four for more seasons Zombie cheese four more seasons four season renewal. I can't remember the last time I saw four season renewal. I mean that makes the three season renewal you will of new Amsterdam look positively one season fewer. I mean that's big honestly been one of the bigger headlines tour is all these multiple season renewals. American Dad talked about tosh point. No New Amsterdam American horror story got three more years at Fx but to me you know this this one seems like a no brainer because this is not an expensive show to produce and that's me not knowing how much Daniel Tosh makes but his twenty five million or so followers so I don't know like I was pretty big apparently and yes. He included in his deal. He also has an overall deal. He's going to do other projects and possibly host another show for them but it's a low cost programming. There's the threat of a potential writers strike. That's kind of looming that could impact a lot of programming. When the current deal expires April thirtieth so renewing renewing unscripted show that is quincy like viral video show to produce makes a lot of sense elsewhere? Comedy central they also renewed Aquafina is nor from Queens Force force a second season before its premiere and we may talk at least briefly about that in a couple minutes Down the road after other things moving along quickly and we really probably should get quick because the segments getting pretty long and as we told you. There's a lot of news here. A lot of news over a paramount network which we swear as thing Yellowstone Creator Taylor Sheridan has is now a second show verse obviously being jealous. Don't as I just said a prison. Drama called Mirror of Kingston and in breaking news. FACEBOOK has cancelled old. Sorry for your loss and lime town. The former will be shopped to other outlets but this is the social media network retreating from scripted. Who I was not a longtime conscripted that they spent and it's too bad because sorry for your loss is a really good show and honestly if someone else wanted to pick it up they could pretty much marketed as a brand new show and no one would know the difference? You should totally listened to our other fantastic interview with showrunner Creator Kit Steinkellner. That would be the October fourth episode of Our podcast podcast. It's a great interview and also in breaking news confirming what was largely anticipated or guest or assumed or leaked by Giancarlo. Esposito all of those things. AMC has confirmed that the sixth season newly renewed of better call Saul will be its last season. The fifth season will premiere on February Twenty Third February twenty fourth. The six season which will be thirteen episodes will premiere sometime in twenty twenty one. And we'll see if that happens. This is a show where the people involved like to get things right and I'm glad that they're going to have the chance to bring the show into whatever conclusion they want on their own terms. Yeah and Vincent Peter the CO creators and show runners said that they're grateful that AMC and Sony are allowing them to end the story the way and when they wanted to I think that's important to note Because we're still I think feeling the hit of Lodge forty-nine indeed and you can tune in in about a month for our sit down with Vincent Peter and a quick wrap up of what happened last weekend at NBC which now seems like a thousand years ago I mean surely by now you already know the Tina fey and Amy Puller are returning to host the two thousand twenty one golden Globes. That's looking far ahead easily. The best news out of TCI. Dan It's certainly a fun piece of news. Surely you probably probably also know that they are doing a semi autobiographical. Dwayne Johnson comedy called Young Rock. I still think it should be called the pebble but whatever and we've already mentioned that new Amsterdam has renewed been renewed for three more seasons. And for Heaven's Sakes Syfy has ordered and that would be sci-fi syfy syfy has ordered a chucky. TV show straight to series because when the premise of your show is adult kills people. Why do you need a pilot to prove that that's a workbook uh-huh and speaking of broadcast networks? Let's say it's your third topic number three up next. CW W again the only broadcast that wasn't a Ta and yet they still managed to have a really busy week. And that's after that's a week after it renewed all thirteen almost all of his entire slate thirteen shows. So what's interesting here. Won't Mark Pedal hits. They exactly runs network sign a new deal to remain at the helm and it has been promoted the chairman and CEO so. Why does that matter? Because he's doing much more than just making programming decisions. He is the executive responsible for the network having in season stacking rights. What the Hell is in season sacking writes it means you can go watch a show like bat woman on the CW APP CW TV DOT COM and other platforms wallets still airing? This is what everyone during Jane. The Virgin wanted because people would talk about the show when it was already you know six seven eight episodes into the season but but no one could go back and watch those early episodes and come in and join the show in real time so that's a huge move for the CW. I wonder if this will now make marquette. It's too big to come do an executive sessions at TCI's and if you will start sending a convenient underlying now that he no longer has to report on what the future of supernatural is. I mean what are we going to ask him if we can't ask them. How much longer supernatural will run and if he can say as long as the guys will WanNa do it? Apparently they no longer wanted to do it. Well Speaking Supernatural Jerry Pedal lucky will be back on the network next season because the CW handed out a street series order for Walker Texas Ranger. That's a sizable sizable as well. And rare move also picked up to series. And this is you can consider this part two of this weekend Greg Berlanti News. It's a straight to series order for air over spinoff Superman and Lois Dan. This is the very first time that the CW has ever done a straight to series order in the network's history and double check that with with the network to confirm it's it's fascinating. We'll look at why these shows why at this time. What does that say about the version of the broadcast television game that the CW W. playing? Well it's not so much the version of the game that they're playing. It's more at least my theory on it is guarding against trying to protect against a potential strike so look the network usually sticks to the traditional development season that means picking up a script. Which people did the you know halfway through Last last summer and into the fall and now one those network review the scripts and then they make decisions based on them and then hand out a pilot order. And that's when this time of year Ev. All all the networks are picking up everything so that means they gotTa Start Finding Directors and casting and production people and it's a competitive time but what's interesting about a straight to series order. Is that the early orders. Allow them to find the cast and when they do start production on a pilot usually in May or in March. What typically happens at other network says they'll produce this stuff in in January February march? Shut down and then in May a stuff gets picked up to series and then it goes back into production in June. What the CW is GonNa do? They're going to fill all these roles and and all the behind the scenes people and then when they start production they're just gonNa go and beyond even doing that. It also affords the writers they can open an entire writer's room now in January start. Start Banging out scripts and then God forbid. A writers strike happened at the end of April. They've already got a number of scripts and they will have production already underway underway and things ready to go so that if they could possibly be out in an entire season of scripts so getting early jumping and going straight. The series is interesting. And we're starting to see some of these other networks doing it too. So you mentioned the Pebble Young Rock same straight series. I don't know when that begins production but it's if they're smart. It happens soon. Well it's too bad that the CW did not come to press tour because apparently they had a lot of news they wanted to announce would have been nice to at the very least. Have you know thirty thirty minutes with Mark Poets Explaining the state of the CW but perhaps we will get another chance. And I think that's about enough time dedicated to news this week. Let's get to you are next segments number four up next. Is Our show runner. Spotlight segment our guest this week. Our second writing team but our first husband and wife Partnership Robert and Michelle King are the creative forces behind the good wife and it's acclaimed. CBS All access spin off the good fight their current network show evil on. CBS is one of the most acclaimed broadcast. CASTORAMA's in years next up there working on showtime's Bryan Cranston Limited series. Your honor giving them shows on broadcast cable and streaming our guest this week Robert and Michelle King. Welcome thank you for having a pleasure. So we're heading towards the end of the first season of evil and the show has been on this run of rather nightmarish morice intense hallucinogenic episodes which are not usually adjectives that I attribute to shows on CBS. I'm curious from the the beginning. Did they know where you were going with this. And what were the conversations you've had along the way letting them know okay what started off as a procedural. We're going elsewhere swear Michelle. That's I mean. I think they knew we were going to delve into some strange territories. They may not have thought it was going to go as deep as did I mean the ones. We always compared to shows on network like Hannibal so in that sense. You know the warning was is there. It was truth in advertising. I would say it's structurally more peculiar. Then they may have known or that we knew when we started but at no point have balked. I mean no one has said Oh. Can you get a little more average never at all. It's funny you mentioned Hannibal and obviously that's a great comparison but that's a great comparison that will make TV critics creatives probably about ten thousand people out there happy but it's not the kind of comparison that a network work is GONNA say. Oh Yeah let's do that so obviously you did not pitcher as that that that we pitched it as what it is. I I mean that there were these two characters and that they would have different points of view and they we would be looking at these unexplained things that the Catholic Church would me sending them out to and they knew what they were getting into. I think that what they thought it's true with probably is it is warmer because a obviously a good buy into that. It's a Julianne Marty's kind of character who has children who is trying to balance work life and home life you know there are all those elements. We hope we do them differently. But I think those are the things that may be keeps it in the realm of something sympathetic stay on the evil track per second. You know this is a short order series stories and you know when. CBS later last year announced that it was picking up all of his shows for additional episodes. You guys got a season to order. This is always going to be a short order for series and is that kind of how you are approaching broadcast at this point near careers. Yes unequivocally we did not want to be doing twenty two anymore. We did on on on good wife. We did Twenty two and then the first two years that we did twenty three and I think the bottom line is I think Damon Lindelof said it when he looked back at. He'd never understands now how we did it. I think we're the same way we it's unclear although we're doing twenty three episodes this year if you consider a good fight titan add the two shows but luckily we're not good at math but dancer your question. Yeah we are very definitive that it's going to be we've charged with. CBS CBS. Saying you know we only do it if we could get fifteen or fewer boots funny because we've talked about the serialized elements but it is a show that at least in the middle part of the series you did have a lot of standalone procedural episodes and I think you guys do those really well and I'm curious where your hearts kind of lie in the serialized versus Mrs Procedural storytelling. We're probably people who tend to run in the other direction of where everybody else's at it for good and bad and this case everybody's heading extreme this idea that I'm doing an eight hour movie and every time I hear that I just WanNa fall asleep because I don't want to go to eight hour movies. I don't want to because I know they'll be two or three repeats episodes that I'll put aside. Oh my God. That's the best thing I've seen but there's just when eight and our movies are two to three hours for a reason and so I guess we're people who the pretenders where to put his there some lovely Milan Kandara books book laughter and forgetting which are series of short stories that that add up to be a novel but they're short stories and you could take them individually and I do think that's a more exciting way because you're watching something. The you know have a beginning middle and end that will be an experience unto itself and yet when you watch all them together. There's another experience experience that there is there too and that's what evil will be. We're not we. Haven't you haven't seen the last episode yet. But it is meant to be a full experience when you see all them and I. I think that is a fun challenge shoe because we seem to be drawn to it and was nice about procedural elements and show is it allows us and the writers offers to explore something. That's caught our eye in the news or whatever that suddenly you can make an episode about that as opposed to this long long overarching story that you've decided on three months prior I cover development for Ta Jars I mentioned and one of the things that I find so interesting about you guys is through your deal with. CBS Estudios. You you have the TRIFECTA you've gotTA show broadcast evil streaming with the good fight and of course premium cable showtime coming up with your honor where yes as most comfortable. Oh my God it make a difference anymore the platform considering that everyone is eventually probably GonNa Watch it on streaming at some point or another the only thing that is slightly lately more comfortable about streaming. Is that the episode. Length is fungible. You know you're not stuck but that Said said in terms of content we're pretty comfortable on all the platforms we don't live and die with nudity or language was nice about network. His there are more people. Viewing it still at this stage. Have you been given information about how your shows are performing on streaming like. Do you know how like what what did you guys before you know what it is always terribly opaque and you all you know is whether they smile at you in the hallway and give you another season and thus far we've gotten smiles and seasons and that kind of refreshing that you don't have to look at the overnights anymore. Yeah yeah and I remember going back to. The first is two years of good wife. We were never that good for them overnight wise so there was always the first two years. I was always worried that that was it or the first thirteen. It felt like that was going to be so you always kind of like I remember the sick feelings and now either because we're older or because it doesn't is matter as much because what matters is a bigger picture for these conglomerates not the same vocabulary they just aren't talking about ratings in the same way at least not to us. What's funny of course because the ratings that good wife is doing and its first couple years which were sort of bubbly at the time obviously would make you one of the most popular shows on broadcast television? There's just threat shocking. I mean if you look at the numbers of quote unquote hit now. You wouldn't make pass the first commercial. Ub Yanked we also have no writers who were in the Er days and the and prior to that. It's all kind of relative to each other. Yeah I was. We had stupid anecdote. Yeah but we had Alexander Beck here for for jeopardy panel the other day and I was Glenn's because it's the thirtieth anniversary of the cheers episode that he was on and that episode was watched by thirty seven million people in Nineteen one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. I feel like there's an anecdotal thing that you can get though because I saw a lot on twitter people binging evil over the past couple of weeks. Can you get any feeling for that. You guys We have been told that they put it on all axes evil now on the on the good side of the the fire of the good side of the wall wouldn't pay well. Hey We'll pay wall. It's terrible in friends in front of basically made it easy for people to watch it free right exactly. I think what we'd heard. It was like you know they were melodramatic about how good it went in a good way. It makes you feel good because I mean W- W- we didn't want any kind of suddenly get onto network just as it was like falling apart and taking on water. It was like the last lifeboat off the titanic. And then here we are. I heard in a at this so you want you want it to be accessible. You want shows to be accessible on all access on good fight it. It always felt like it was such like a gated community. I think emily news mom called it and I think that's I think sometimes that feels like well. That's not the spirit of where we're after the spirit of what we're after. is you know that everybody gets to see it whenever they want. And why did you want originally the good wife spin off to be on. CBS just as the flagship was. You're only because they came to us and pitched us you know. Here's the thing when you're working on network there is one detriment. You're always struggling for money. Any I mean when I talked to our friends who are doing streaming. It's like what. How many days did you get to shoot tat? What that's insane? Turn around and episode Soden like eight days nine days. So what is the pitch was with. All axes was more money so there wasn't an advantage that we originally we're not going to run it. We were having somebody else. Run the good fight and then we just topped on board once. It seemed like it was with Christine Bransky with Cush jumbo coming going on board and when we are Dell Roy you know it was all seemed like it came together in a way that we wanted to and also the other thing one of the reasons to be excited about excited about it was because of the change in administration it felt like suddenly the show had something else to say that good wife did not say and also being on all access was a real positive just in terms of no fewer episodes which is what we want to. Do you say you say when you talk to people who do streaming but now that you guys are on basically three different versions of television at the same time how do you keep from being like well. You know showtime let us do this or CBS. Basically going going to your mother going to your father. Father and saying mom said we could do this. We do do that though. We shouldn't say that we do but we do do that. Partly because you're working with the company that works off precedent not gotcha contracts but also in standards and so there's your yes. We tend to say but we got away with over here. Why can't we get away with that over there and and you know it helps that? You're aware of several versions of what. CBS or you know you're aware of the players in different areas of the company. Yeah that's that's the funny thing is that it's not like you're doing a one netflix. Show one NBC. Whatever it's all in the family it's all name ecosystem system which is where? TV is increasingly going. You know when you look at it plowed from like HBO. Max that's going to have a little bit of everything from Warner Media and and now with CBS and re reemerging with Viacom that family just got a hell of a lot bigger and the worry is. I mean the worry I have is. What is I what happens to identity of shows? I mean what happens the Landgraf in that universe. What happens to some people that furry odd particular voices you know? I don't know I read what you guys reported on key sutter but you know what who where does key Saturday settled when you're talking about companies that are worried about the brand. We've never what Kurt Center. What did I say Kurt Sutter? Sorry you know. We've never had to deal with that. Because I you know what we have to deal with the China stuff but beyond that we never had to really deal with that anyway. Thank you Michelle. I WANNA follow up on the China stuff. You're of course referring to a scene that was censored last season By all access in which as I've read you you did a great piece with emily. Nussbaum in that you threatened to quit the show. Can you talk us through a little bit about what you learned from that experience. Well that's a good way to put it because we've agreed not to talk too deeply deeply about what we've learned from the experience is there has to be known of trust between your collaborators and I do do think by going the extra mile after there was a mistake. That trust was reestablished would you. That's a nice way to Fi- here's the thing I mean Do we like them and they like us. Because we're in as people we tend to be inoffensive. We're not the Peter Kurt Sutter. You're saying I senator or key center we are we are not. We tend to want to make people laugh and feel good about calling us not like what the fuck. What the fuck are you doing with Vergara? You're doing and so I do think they was a reestablishment of trust after that. Because we've always been amazed what we've been able to get a way with but that the China thing had gone so far up to the data broadcast that was such a late reversal it. It really needed to reestablish okay. There's no way Michelle and I could've played that differently and you ask. What did we learn in some ways? Not that much because in terms of process there wasn't much we could have done differently. We're we're not the folks that try to pull something on the network network. We're the ones that call ahead of time and say we're considering this area if you are uncomfortable with it. There's no point in moving forward now. They say we're not comfortable with it but we we get in front of ideas that we know are going to be potentially controversial so you know we continue. Can you to work the second season of good wife. We start with a kind of lingus scene between yeah between perimeter foreign on a leash and so there were a lot of calls ahead of time. We're doing this would give us some warnings. About how the shoot it anything and we'll be careful but we're doing it. And this is the reason reason why it makes sense within the narrative. Do we're not just doing it like lab that we can do this. Fuck you we wanted to have. It have a narrative purpose as to what we're what we're the notes on that one do it in a shot that you have a lot of coverage in late so you know the director did no coverage coverage so there was watch and so what we did is we did some digital manipulation of moving in on the image to be above the waist anyway. That was interesting and then added. NPR that that was an NBA are. Yeah they're listening to all things considered now for two people who aren't on twitter going back to the good way if you guys have a really have always had a great sense of how and this has become basically the text and evil how evil social media is and how awful it is. I'm curious do you have to go to other people to tell you these things or is this a situation where you've seen enough to know that I if you walk down the street you're aware of what social media is doing as opposed to needing to follow it every moment. I you know it's interesting because not being in the thick of it for reasons. That often seem smart. When you see what friends of ours have been involved directors who had been in kind of toxic fandom kind of come down on them and when you're not in the middle of you actually can explore it a little more and kind of point out some of the things but I don't know if we're not involved with it because we don't really like engaging with it's not even it's not even so much a choice okay that doesn't hold tremendous appeal to me right now so I'm not you know it's the same reason I don't crochet but what I do think there are dangers with it? Obviously the show points out a lot of the dangers of social media that come and bite you in the ass in ways. You didn't expect a judge who friend someone on facebook and then realizes that person is on jury and the jury verdict is thrown out because of that connection. You know there's things that will the shows try to point out all these ways that social media influences you That you don't expect but I mean social media. We use nonstop when it comes down to asking expert opinions. We just don't tend to use phase. I don't use facebook. I don't use twitter. I don't use anything that might opinions from. Ten years ago can be used against me. Now get me fired from a job but at one point it obviously started off seeming like a good idea to people that had never seem like a good idea to you guys. I've I have never. I've never understood how anyone thought that putting their ideas into one hundred forty characters would work so I mean I started with okay. It just doesn't make sense to me and then obviously I was wrong because it took off huge but I've never gotten past the but it doesn't make sense to me. I mean we sound like Luddites but on every every other level technology is our best friend. I mean we use technology in every way. I don't think the show off. I've never understood. Why do you want to engage with letters to the editor which is kind of like if you're writing? Then yes I want the criticisms from people I love but everybody else you know. I mean they're going to hurt me so I think we veer away from too much of that it's considerably health. My God Allah sound like old folks. No you sound extremely healthy. I would say maybe you would. If people didn't watch the show and know that it's pretty much constantly okay. That's exactly unfortunately how things are we're on there so you're obviously doing something right. Perhaps by avoiding at all but also technology goes much further. I mean the bitcoin episode who You know that we have the pride of coming out very early before bitcoin took off. You know the I think a lot of is if you look for the other way social media or Computers Affect Us. I don't know if you look at this sonos creature this ball. That's about the size of a grapefruit that falls you brown your house. I mean that is just perfect for satire and you see the commercial that following the dog and picking up after the dog. Oh my God that is the next hour we're going to pursue assu speaking of other things that you're going to pursue you have this huge deal with CBS studios Three shows in the works. What's next I mean? How many more shows do you WANNA be Juggling? I mean we're in this climate where prolific producers such as yourself that can deliver hits on multiple platforms or in incredibly high demand and being asked to do more more more. We're not into more and more more. In general we have looked. Were you going to say I was going to say some version of that which is for us it. It isn't about the the ideal number. It's just get intrigued by stories or ideas and say oh that would be really fun to do. And then you get hooked so Liz Liz Glasser heads up our production. And she's much more ambitious sometimes than we are which are like. Yeah but we want our vacation once a year. You know. So there's a I do things. There is an upward limit of how many we can actively supervise which seems to be in the twenty three territory because then you just run out of ability ability you run out you mean episode twenty-three because twenty three episodes you know there's a guy named Greg Berlanti with twenty one scripted shows currently in the works which I don't even understand we stand may understand that how even watch his shows much less make them. I don't understand it I would love to know and at some point. We'll have him on podcast and say we because I did the difficulty we found is. Maybe we're micromanaging. But there's a tendency to want the show to have your voice in it so and that means have an a massive amount of engagement so we just find. There aren't enough months to do more will. Is your honor. Something different than in that respect. Like Peter Moffett. Is this great writer. Who did who basically did the night up? He did the British version of it and then he supervised the American and we'd been and glasser been engaging with them and see if there was anything they'd be interested. We wanted to work together. And then Liz saw this is really show this format which is your honor and pitch it to him and then we went out together together. It's being shot in New Orleans right now. We go down there but Liz is the active person on it. We do all the notes on the scripts we do all the sue provide. They're showing a teaser for it to Tomorrow tomorrow so we're supervising that but Ed Burger was director of the first three episodes is great director. Patrick Melrose And they were a unit that it was like we were kind of benign parents just going. Oh my God you're the you know I'm going to let you. We're going to let you play because it's great. We just wanted to make sure we talked a little bit about the good fight in the upcoming season which we've heard is less directly clearly trumps at trick. It was that something you always have sort of imagined you would wanna get to or is it simply a kind of self care mental health issue on your part. I think the key is when we start it The writer's room. The first weeks were when Nancy. Pelosi said impeachment. And so we didn't it wasn't that we thought trump wouldn't be in the presence of course he's GonNa survive this that's who he is. He's one of those survivors. The question which was how. How do you comment on the current day when the today keeps changing so quickly so it is A? There's a serialised element of the course of the season. which goes into the question of how this current administration is affecting our understanding of the law and who needs needs to obey the law? And who does not you know. I grew up at her came to adulthood thinking. If you were subpoenaed to something you had to go. So there's this comic. It appears that that's no longer the case casual invites. I grew up thinking if you're on the stand or if you're under oh you had to tell the truth you couldn't keep adding onto. Oh Yeah I met with this Russian. I met with that rush. I remember and so a lot of the show. This season is so much of our understanding standing about the drama of courtroom Dramas Perry Mason all the way through the Broadway version of Tequila. MOCKINGBIRD is all about the idea that there are rules court the we all understand you say objection. The judge says Oh ruled sustain there. Are those rules. What happens when those rules start coming unglued and that is that is is what we probably the thing? We're closer to catch twenty two in that way this a world that is absurdity because it has a rule at the center that is absurd and as a vicious circular chiller logic to it. And that's what that's sounds esoteric. Obviously it's supposed to be funny and actors all good and their sex. There's violence silence and so on top. There is this sense of what has happened to our world when the rules don't seem to apply. Not even I mean. Obviously it's going to be very bad for people. What what does it do to drama? If you don't have tennis game and you can drop the net and just kinda hit back. That's kind of seems to be what's going on. Well I mean the way I look at these two shows kind of the good fights theme is if you look out the window each morning and everything makes you angry. What do you do and evils theme is if you look out in the morning running and everything makes you terrified? What do you do but if you watch them back and forth you bite sort of wonder how do you get out of bed in the morning at all I curious? What what what keeps you guys going in? From all appearances in relatively good humor it helps to be able to write about it and and now I'm being serious to be able to go into a writer's room with seven other people who are obsessed on these issues. Who are some of the smartest people people I've met and be able to talk about it? That's helpful and I think comedy I mean comedy is a very good. They'd probably the one of the most most accurate books probably about World War Two and one of the funniest catch twenty two because not the series which. I don't think got that humor but the book is very funny but also very accurate about the absurdity of life so absurdity is not a bad way to grab onto. What's happening today? We're all all kind of holding onto you know we're in the back seat of a drunk driver. He's not a drinker but a father who's like a drunk driver. WHO's and we're just kind of braced braced and at a certain point? You have to look at the sites and just go okay. I'm in for the fate I'm in for at least there's an element absurdity and the lights are pretty as they skid they are rushing by. You guys don't have like a sort of heartwarming. Show about a guy and he's really really WANNA make for a no but we do have a puppy in an upcoming episode. Might be the cutest puppy you've ever seen. That's a tease. I liked them and then we kill it. That is a joke. Joe Touching on on a good fight. How much longer do you see the show? We're going to have a larger plan. I gotta think how November Burgos I do think the show is very specific to a period of time. You know it. Is that thing about living interesting times. It was a show that started cynically. Which is okay all access needed a show because probably I think star Trek was ready yet and so they they just needed to show and they thought the people like the good wife? Can we spend it off and you know it even started you know. I think in kind of prosaic ways and then when the current president one there there was like suddenly there was a meaning to what the show is about and I think it would be if that means still there and there might still be a reason for the show. Do you have any notes notes from that version of the show. That was going to be Diane in a world where there was a President Hillary that could be applicable. If hypothetically it's the President Elizabeth Warren or a President Amy Klobuchar are not our current plan as notice. I mean the sad thing is with regards. Racism is one of those perennials and the show is Christine Branson and Al All African American firm. There is that that is I think an interesting as as long as you keep peeling away different parts of what races I it was last year. I think one of my favorite episode was this mothering while black episode which didn't just end there but had very progressive people looking at their intrinsic racism in the hiring and firing in the company and in the pay in the company and then even the African American CEOS partners were looking at that that infected. They're thinking about how they paid. So I think is seen as long as you can. We're doing episode so this year that was inspired by slave. Play that play on Broadway and so as soon as you can find different elements of how how that experience has played out and not an pretentious preachy way. I think they'll be reasons for the show to exist. What does your process? I'm just curious about that because we've had we've we've had writing pairs on before but we've never had a husband and wife writing pair. So how'd y'all do it a lot of things get divvied up we're both in the writer's room much of the time Robert gallops ahead and is more involved with the scripts. There are other pretty soil tasks that I will more often deal with whether it's the legal department. Whatever we tend to build it together? I probably do the first draft. Shell then gives notes and talks in terms of what's not working. What is working when we come down to producing everything kind of involving the look except the camera? Department Michelle's wardrobe production design and yeah and casting and I'm probably most involved with Directors editing and. That's probably it. Yeah so look we. We keep saying we don't know how one person does it I just truly it's it's kind of baffling. Don't because it is an all encompassing job Bob and in terms of process we do not have a and I know some people do have a wall between okay at only only speak of family and it worked. We only speak of work. It's much more porous for us. It's the nothing's off limits at any time. How the writers the other writers in the room respond? And I guess when you come in the next morning and it's we had this whole conversation last night at home and here's what we figured out. Here's what we talked about. Which I imagine does not happen on most shows goes I really hope? The writers don't think they're the people in the backseat and we're the drunk drivers because I would hate. I don't think it it. It doesn't really work that way because yes we can start a day with you know we were talking last night and we were thinking da Da da Da da and then we'll all start fleshing it out together but you know it occasionally happens that a writer will say you know. I was thinking about what we were talking about last night. And then it occurred to me that so it's not that imposed there. It's not it's a little more democratic than because you know I'm getting ideas shut down all the time it's just sometimes rightly because they're just stupid but it also also ideas are kind of always back there if they want to be dragged back up because you're exhausted and you need to keep the train moving forward for for show runners who cut at your teeth broadcast. I I wonder you know the show like evil that could have easily been on basic cable or a premium network or streaming. Obviously but when you think about creating this show for broadcast how do you know it's for platform especially in this climate like do you like oh I have an idea for broadcast show or is that how you approach other ideas when you have them we have a we have a three year deal with CBS. So we do know it somewhere within the CBS garden. We did not want to do a network. Show is in twenty two opposites so we went to. CBS said We. You know we could think of ideas. But we really can't do that. If would you be fine with it and David Staff. whose are you know real? Rabbi over at the studio he runs a studio. He's amazing to us and he's one of those people who encourage us which direction to go. He thought it would work with network so we pitch to them first and then they say yes. They're more savvy about the marketplace than we we are we are. We assume they're more savvy about the marketplace and we'll off times we'll just come to them with an idea and then say where do you see it. Yeah I mean occasionally will you know if for example it were period. You know chances are they're not going to want to put that on broadcast. But you know otherwise and I think think basically with your honor. We had this we ask them. They wanted to go wide to the town which meant streaming. And we wasn't even go to did. Yeah and and there was kind of showtime was the best offer. It wasn't like Oh we were pushed to go to showtime it was like show there are a lot of places blazes interest but showtime stepped up the most. But are there no we are not we are not looking at at the lineup of CBS Viacom Opportunities and targeting checking them off navy should be. But we're not but you have another broadcast that show that you WANNA do. There are three more shows we WANNA do have ones we've created. I don't know if they're broadcasts. I'd seems like one might be showtime in one might be all axis but for no good reason other than that Jillian Mac Over at all access would probably like this you know and Gary Levin over at showtime might like this and when you think about developing and you said you'd like to do between twenty and twenty three episodes per year. That would kind of presume that at some point you're going to start to mentor or continue to mentor other up and coming writers who can execute your vision. How important is that to you guys right now? We've had a lot of people in our writer's room who are running being shows now which is wonderful and at a certain point we realized. Why are we losing these people? They are creating these shows power. I mean you know. It's almost like well if we put a dollar on that stock and and we could have so a lot of it is. We're looking internally to riders in our writer's room and we're we're asking them to pitch us. We're getting the there's something we're pitching tomorrow in fact that is from one of the writers in the Iran. Ah Writer's room The bottom line is each. It's a really good place to start with a base where you have all these writers who are very smart you can get a sense of their taste when you listen to what they're pitching all day and you're dealing how pleasant is work with them all day because I do think one of the keys from Michelle may so we do kind of want pleasant workplaces. It's been I've the wiser father we were. I've worked in features along which always was unpleasant. It's great to have a place where people do like each other. How much more satisfying is this phase of your career than the future face? Because there's no it doesn't even get close features were hard features hard because people didn't trust you we would write or I would write a mountain climbing movie that had a wages of fear moral aspect and was really about Now wages a fears of wages of morality of okay. Is it right to leave this person behind if you can only carry two people for example and and Kip kept raising the wage of that and then it turns into an action movie. I mean you did the bottom line is you're always trapped by if you're doing a show that is trying to be Smart or interesting but also have genre elements movies always stopped it down to dishes genre elman so this is like a dream. This is where the happiest we've I'm saying speaking for myself where the best bet. It's so much reworking genre. Where or in a medium rather where the writers are taken seriously and get to make pretty soil decisions? We do like to end all of our showrunner spotlight interviews with the same question. What are you guys watching on? TV and really enjoying. How high maintenance I think is one of the best shows out there watchmen? Obviously everybody's saying watchmen but I to add to what everybody's saying fleabag. Yeah three or four shows episodes of it. I didn't quite get what the fuss was about. And then it just started kicking taking in and I thought that was a really on watchmen. Sorry non-flight back on watchmen. This is an embarrassing and Mitch Emission but the circle which is a net flicks reality reality show which is the end of civilization as we know it but be hard to resist for whatever reason I watch survivor. Sorry but I do and I'm not I'm going to watch next time to vase. Burger is a perennial in our house. You know we kinda watch everything shits creek a Russian doll another excellent one. I think we could probably be asked what we don't watch easier than what we do. Watch the circle very much feels like the kind of show that someone one on the good fight would become obsessed with so I guess we should watch for season like actually how it comes into play. Yes true well thank you so so much for joining us today thank you. It was great the first season of evil wraps January thirtieth on CBS. The fourth season of the good fight premiers this spring on CBS. All access us and your honor is expected to premiere later this year. Une Showtime number is as usual. We wrap things up with the critics corner. The January insanity is continuing Dan. I feel for you my friend so a bunch of new releases this week. Sex Education returns for season two on Net flicks Applebaum Jose Theology. Little America Disney plus has diary of Future President Rob Logos to Texas on. Fox's nine one one off shoot Lonestar. Aquafina makes her comedy central scripted up to debut with Nora from Queens and Patrick Stewart Returns to Star Trek with CB L. Accesses Picard plus the retooled third season of Grey's anatomy spin off station nineteen launches under under new showrunner Christopher. Enough Dan what you got to. That's a lot first thing to notice that there are embargoes on several things that are premier next this week. So I can't tell you what I think about card because part of CBS. All accesses thing is that they like fans to experience things at the same time as critics are reviewing them and that's that's their choice and so my review will be on the twenty-third but next week you should look for our interview with Michael Shaven. You should also definitely check out last week's interview with Tim in near where he talked about the nine one one. It's not really a spin off because it isn't really spinning off from its But the franchising of nine one one with Lonestar and honestly if you ripping interview I it's a great interview and if you like the thing that nine one one does. And it's a heightened broadcast procedural done reasonably well and I would say the lone star is in the same vein. It has a lot of fun with with Rob Lowe's vanity. The Fun boy. It's a lot about rob lowe being extremely vain. That's Kinda the plot of the entire show but it doesn't fun things and it it's in the same qualitative vein vein as the original. So if you like one chances are good. You'll like the other but really there. Are Things for kind of everyone this week. If you have a younger viewer in Your Life Disney sneak pluses diarrhea. Future President is charming and likable I am very much. Not Its target demographic and yet I watched five episodes and really enjoyed it frequently gently and never myself angrier resenting it which you know that says a lot or at least it says something Our new colleague in Gu King Loved Little Little America. I have not watched a second of it but I do like to love things. So I'm very much looking forward to it A couple episodes of the new season of sex education. I I like them very much. I binged the whole thing over the holidays Dan. I loved it. I loved that. Show you get you get your experience a lot more than I do. I watch a lot of stuff. So Yeah Yeah I have a lot of opinions about how much stuff you watch. Well all has to be watched or some of that has to watch or who knows anyway sex education. It's a really good show and I love the I season and liked the couple episodes I watched. And if you like Aquafina and you've enjoyed her scene stealing roles in movies like crazy. Rich Asians I would not say that her work in the farewell exactly prepares you for her comedy central show but she's fantastic in that movie AQUAFINA is Nora from Queens on comedy central premieres next week and it's it's likeable and funny and it is occasionally very funny and I see how given some in time and it's already been renewed for a second season as we already mentioned on this podcast it could become a worthy successor to broad city It is it is funny. She is very a good. Supporting cast is very strong including BDO. Long Saturday night live breakout Boeing Yang. It's it's it's a solid launch to accommodate. which is sometimes sometimes something to do? That's kind of a hard thing and you know. Sometimes you're like Oh you have to wait five or six episodes for it to get good. This is it's not great in the five episodes. I've seen but it's good and it. It's funny laugh a few times. I believe you've checked out station. Nineteen which I certainly have not. How is it's new season? I actually liked it And I've only seen the one episode this season three premiere. I will say and keep in mind. I stress as an all the time but I'm not a creek. I'm disagrees and Adamy nerd but I checked out of this show very early season one was not for me and I say that you know sad because I loved private practice and was in for every episode of. That's been off off but this new take under Christopher enough. It's got the urgency of Grey's anatomy. And maybe that's just because it resolves the big cliffhanger from the grey's anatomy in season finale but I really liked it I the characters feel engaging you know the two shows coexist quite well into this one two punch obviously station. Nineteen at eight eight and grey's anatomy now pushed back to its original timeslot at nine. It works. I'm very much interested in watching more of station. Nineteen to see if it's something that I add to my dvr and that was Leslie's please critics Carter. Yeah and we'll have more with runner Christopher about both shows on the site Next week one thing. She didn't talk about however was Justin Chambers because well the interview he was done before that happened. So one thing she didn't talk about was the thing that hadn't happened yet. Yeah well that feels like a very good point to wrap things up. I'm tired Dan on is this is a lot and we still have. It's Thursday now as we record this Friday at Teasha Saturday and a half day Sunday with apple here so homestretch to my friend to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Well thank you for listening to TVs top five the Hollywood reporter's TV podcast. We'll be back next week when we'll be joined by STAR TREK cards show runner and Pulitzer Prize winning author. Michael Trayvon until then subscribe to us on all of your various podcasting platforms. If you like US rate us if you really like us right a little review it would help spread the word of mouth. Come say hi to us on the twitter. 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#78 - Microsoft Acquires Bethesda

"You're listening to FAM-, cast a four all mankind podcast with your hosts the competitive spirit trae, Simpson, our own devil's advocate Tim Webber and the hopelessly optimistic Trevor. Jorgensen. This is fantast. Hey everyone, and welcome back to fan cast. This is episode seventy eight I'm joined by the master himself Mr Tim Webber. That's me your throughout my name I did I was Working with him a little bit. I think our friends with them. Name begins with a T. which doesn't really narrow down for US know. So this this one's a little and I apologize this is This is kind of on me this one's a little. Overdue Because I wanted to talk about xbox by Bethesda for it's probably almost been a week if it hasn't been a week exactly now. Stuff's. We've been doing some stuff that you'll probably see your soon I've been working on that and we've all just had some personal stuff going on but Nin similar finally here to talk about it. and. I think. There's there's a lot to UNWRAP here. I've had some people. Go ahead. I'm just GonNa, say like it never hurts to get a reminder of this because this is such a yeah. Like big deal. This is like some little. This isn't like a little acquisition not that any I feel like anymore like even like when they announced obsidian. That was that wasn't just like a small obviously, but does a little more grander on that scale. Bright. That was still a huge deal. So here to to kind of UNWRAP that give our opinions on this none of us know what's going on and Phil Spencer's mind as far as well. We'll happen but these are just kind of our our thoughts I. Guess. Tim Easier best. Meaning talk actually called me. I kind of gave the go-ahead this. Came to me for approval thing. Okay. What do you think about this? How do you think to spend look? There's lot of avenues you can go down with, say just go for it. You got the money cash just. Yeah, Tim's like I want follow games. Next. My friends playing on any other system they all need to play with me. So yeah. There's lots of impact here. So I guess we'll just get started. So about a week ago I'm sure many of you have seen but if you didn't Microsoft spent seven point five billion dollars to acquire Bethesda. Software in cash. was in big print like they made a point. They brought bills. Did this those a semi truck. Just crates. Money. To kind of put that into perspective. Like how how much money that is to acquire with a? Disney only paid four billion to acquire star wars. So. I don't like that that obviously is a huge. That's probably the biggest media acquisition I can think of outside of you know like Disney and Fox, which is now just as big but. It was more than just Bethesda though, right like it but this is the big part of it, but it was like they acquired was cinemax. So they basically all parts of Bethesda I think it's Bethesda soft works is the is the umbrella. They've got like those do studios under there. You said, Cinemax, I forget what? All the others I thought. There was like seven total like there's this. It however, you want to say it I think it is the correct term but I always when I say It's software. So I mean think about how big that is right. So they they acquired doom dishonored fallout elder scrolls, which I think is the probably the biggest one star Field Star field. That's that's going to be interesting unknown game that never reaction will come to flirtation. I saw. Was One of those facebook articles that kind of POPs up in you're like this is definitely like fake but they're like, oh, the first screen shots from star field And Yeah I I check. I check those things out just like. I don't know sometimes it's fun to just look. I'm really interested to see. What they do with that five years from now when it when it goes into Beta. Anyway so this is obviously a really big acquisition. And I think the first thing that came never once one because they announced the day before Psi preorder live. That that wasn't that wasn't coincidence like that is a very strategic move the day before ps five or Xbox. Sorry xbox. Makes Sense Yeah. Right those. xbox. Went Life Fire. It was a whole mess the day before xbox. It'd be like, Hey, we know that. You're you're still debating these councils here's why you should pick us. Like look we're lackey and exclusive department we understand and not anymore. Yeah. And I think that's probably the I've seen this debated all over twitter I've I've honestly gone back and forth a little bit myself too. But I think the biggest question on everyone's mind is does this mean all Bethesda Games with moving forward are going to be xbox exclusive? Might Microsoft. Microsoft's rate because yes. With with game pass because now that they're a part of xbox we're talking day one launches. For for new games we're talking. Not Having to pay sixty seventy dollars right to to play it. So. I I definitely have a few opinions of my own and I'm I don't even think I'm cemented in that. But I, I, WanNa ask you first because we haven't we haven't really talked about this yet what do you think this means for Bethesda being exclusive or not exclusive to Microsoft. So I. So, here's if I'm a businessman. And I'm sitting here and I'm thinking. Okay. So Sony has some great titles. Sony has some phenomenal tiles. Titles that you literally pay. Whatever that caused that system is just to play at least myself in that list. And what can we do since we have a bunch of studios as Microsoft under our hands under under US What can we do to help even this playing field and I think if you're Microsoft at this point, you don't necessarily make them exclusive. You don't come out saying these are going to be exclusive titles. You use those as bargaining chips to get exclusives away from Sony Hey Sony you want fall out five. We want last of US hey Sony you want you but you know what I'm saying like no, I hadn't thought about that I thought you were going in a different direction you kind of were but then that's I mean that's definitely an interesting. Like plus an interesting thought I think it's a good way for them to make because let's face it. Microsoft has never been stronger in the exclusive game, right? That's really probably their biggest lackluster area when it comes to the market, is that that in itself? So how do you even the playing field you get rid of that completely by making it to where you have. A several of the biggest titles out there under your belt that you can now use. To. UNHINGE into, get those titles you want from Sony onto your console. Sure. As as fans if you're a playstation person, are you really going to sit there like no, don't give him God of war. We don't care about elder scrolls six. No, you're about yeah. Do that like that's okay. I mean. Those are big. Now, look maybe that's a stretch in terms of the exclusively what they would reach for right. But there I'm sure other exclusive titles that Microsoft can utilize these titles to get their hands on. Yeah because. Yeah. I. Think it's. It's It's interesting. You say that because I think what you're saying falls in line with Phil Spencer's kind of vision for kind of the the gaming. Industry. Let me read you a quote real quick. So this is spill fill Spencer I believe back in Twenty nineteen he said gaming is about entertainment in community and diversion and learning new stories and new perspectives I find it completely counter to a gaming is about to say that part of that is to lock people away from being able to experiences games or to force someone to buy my specific device on the day that I want them to go and buy it in order to partake in what gaming is all about gaming is bigger than anyone device. That's my boy. Phil right there. So deep deep worries that. So that quote right there that. After reading that that led me to believe 'cause when I first read it I'm like, yeah, they will. Those, are there exclusives now like why wouldn't they? That's that's their weakling in now they just have this huge AAA titles only on Xbox well, only on game pass PC whatever I want there Because, one thought processes. You don't pay seven point five billion dollars to not make them exclusive right like you don't throw down that much money to make them exclusive. That's one thought and I can definitely see that. The other thought is okay. These are your games now. And now you allow them to be playable on playstation five where you're GONNA make like you're gonNA. Make some of that money off of that because it's sure. You're you're developing in publishing these games a you're going to make some money whether playstation five owners by them or not. I think catches. In this is why I don't think that they will be exclusive. They you spread that reach out right so okay. Everybody can play elder scrolls six and follow up five and star field everyone can play it. But you can play on ps five for seventy dollars or you can play it on Xbox with your game subscription that you probably already have for nothing day one, right. and. At those. Have if you have an xbox in your your plane multi-player, you more than likely have gold which gold you probably have the game pass. Ultimate. So you're paying fifteen bucks a month to have everything you're getting this day one launch titles. Are you really going even if you have both consuls even for someone that isn't like on the fence that okay. I'm only going to get one or the other. It's it's kind of hard. You can't look away and I think that's where Microsoft is going with it. They're making game pass something that cannot be ignored. You can't ignore the fact that you can get all these AAA games now for for nothing not paying any any. Money. Bucks a month. Yeah. You're paying fifteen bucks a month that you're probably paying already versus seventy dollars sixty to seventy dollars I guess is the official. Sony Price, range. But that's How do you? How do you turn away from that? So right. You don't and game pass was already it the best deal in my opinion gaming history right now that that that's out. If you have game has alternate you you have the Best Bang for your buck that I think we've ever seen on any generation value. and Microsoft just made that three times better by acquiring what they just acquired like hands down, they made it. Untouchable by any other service almost without home and maybe it's plea some other service proved me wrong I. would be one hundred percent. Okay. Let's see what else is out there for that. But think about it on terms of. Okay. So now you have this right so you're saying so you're not going to you're not going to make these titles exclusive. You. Because that doesn't fall in line with what Phil Spencer says. But what does fall in line with what he said was he doesn't like exclusives more or less he doesn't like being locked away on certain consoles. So now again, they have these bargaining chips that they can use to pull exclusive away from Sony which I would almost bet. Something on that that will happen we're going to see big titles not be playstation exclusives. In the future of course, the tiles already out now I mean that's that's a different story but in the future I really think don't be surprised if. If another uncharted game comes out and its own xbox or something like that or ratchet and clank Ratchet Clinton I mean clearly the newest one but. Have to think. A good chunk into the future right now because nothing's going to happen right now. So now you at that and they're like, okay ratcheting claims coming to xbox now. Awesome and they're going to get the new elders star field because that might be the soon as we get, they'll get star field. So now, you break away from there's not really a whole lot of exclusives but now not only are they're not exclusive Microsoft has the advantage with game, Pastelle. Exclusives are not now all your games that you want to play or these budget good chunk of games are they're not free to you but they're they're essentially included in your subscription that you're going to have most likely one way or another right So yeah. Just, not a hard choice of really unless you're a die hard fan or those friends and you know people just like it, and that's fine. I'm not saying go away for playstation not at all but I'm saying the choice is At that point is definitely balanced more on Microsoft's in that it would be on. Sony's. So I think this, this may be because I think we've kind of agreed to this point in this might be where I diverge a little bit because I feel like Sony is almost always like the stand their ground like when they when when they decide on something I, feel like like think about. Cross play and how how big of a battle that was it? You know I know you said you know we're we're thinking pretty far into the future So I don't I don't think we'd see like playstation games on xbox anytime soon or like me personally I feel like they. They know that that's their strong suit and I think that they will hold onto it. Now, if if xbox puts the pressure on them, like you said. Could we see trade I don't know I think ideally that's what Phil Spencer would want because he wants everyone to be able to play everything right and if everybody can play everything, then there's no reason not to play it on xbox where you can get it on game pass. So not that not everything right with everything being so open right like if something happens, we hear about almost instantly, right. So imagine if you're a playstation fan and you hear that Microsoft's trying to strike a deal with Sony to let you know, hey, this new game coming out and we're wanting to let you guys have it but we would also like. Microsoft lanes be able to play this game and you as a as a Sony Fan playstation owner you WanNa play this new star field game coming out but Sony saying no. So like Sony saying, no, we don't WanNa do that deal Microsoft's offering up the opportunity for you to be able to play his game in your home team is denying you that opportunity. It's funny. You say that because my thought process is the exact opposite to where I've because again I don't think I'm completely on board with the like the bartering. I see it as if if xbox does these exclusives then at that point, who's the bad guy who's the one that is telling the the playstation five owners like, Hey, you've loved the fallout girls franchise for decades now but you can't play it on that council that you've got. You're going to have to pick up an xbox. Guy For not allowing to go through if Microsoft approaches I and says, we will let this happen. All we want is ratchet and clank. That's that's if. That if correct Karanko. But if it's just if it's just, Hey, these are these are games and they're they're on all. Of course at that point, you're just playing the money game. Yeah. You're not caring about the consumer because I think. Just just to get as many viewpoints as possible. I think a lot of people could say so you see you see that Phil Spencer quoting like, yeah he's not four exclusives, but it's easy to say that when you don't have exclusives. One hundred. Yes like. Oh, you know we you know it's all about breaking down barriers but when you have those exclusives now when it's your favor now it's like well, maybe it's not so bad. Maybe there this is. How we can kind of change the change, the the tides I guess. I I really honestly I know I'm really on it. I really think it's bargaining I really think they're going to be on that I think that's the number one reason you get a studio like the fesday right now as big as they are the number hits, they have I mean Why else do you acquire something that 'cause I, mean realistically speaking if you're not going to utilize it other than the game feature why pay that much money for it? Why would you say that much money to acquire a company if you're going to allow your fans to play the Games for free anyway that I'm going to pay for it. Right, and so there's more to it than just that and I really think it's the bring down the barriers of the exclusives just in general as you to get rid of it and you know. I'm not saying, Sony have their exclusive stay with them and I don't think Microsoft would necessarily try to go at the biggest and best. But there are definitely some good exclusives that Sony has that I don't think they would necessarily mind giving up if it meant getting these some pathetic titles on the council's Yeah I I think. I might be. this might be a bad viewpoint I. Don't know this might be A. A. Bad take but I don't think I think exclusives as Shitty as they are. Like. Nobody wants to fuel left out of their favorite franchise. But at the same time I think exclusives. Drive. Competition drives innovation right. If, if we have. On. The level playing field at at that point like. Do like do people just pushing because it's available everywhere I don't know I. I don't want it to become this. I don't even know what I'm trying to say at this point I i. don't know if exclusives are as evil as people make them out to be I I want I want things to be as accessible as possible, but I also don't want that that. That innovation to go away. I won't thanks should become stale. To. Okay. It's available everywhere. oops. Just Sit Mike. It's available everywhere. So. I'll drop it because I don't I don't know if it's a fully formed thought. I get it. Right. So your fears that there's no more exclusives in the world then why do you need to be innovative right like what? What at least? Where's the drive to be better than the next guy if if it's not needed? Yeah. I don't want ended in kind of in that same in that same breath, I don't want xbox. and Sony because I. Think the more companies that they acquired they start to become these big conglomerates like like how Netflix's and Disney are well, not really I maybe but like Disney like Disney's binds star wars and marvel, they've got Fox at what point do they just have a hold on everything to where they can start charging? Hey if you want to watch this Movie Day One. On top of your subscription, we're gonNA charge you fifty bucks. Like we're. Who who's going to say? No. Because at that point, they have control over all the all the media. I don't know I think it's just a scary thought I. think that's that's yeah. Maybe it's not as bad as making out to be I. Think I'm just I'm just fearful I. I don't think that's as big of an issue. I don't think exclusives will ever go away entirely right. So Microsoft made this purchase doesn't mean they're going to give up halo ever right you know they're not. They're not gonNA give up gears of war because they don't have a reason to and I think a lot of the creativity isn't so much. I mean in the gaming industry I have a hard time. Feeling that. All the creativity we see is purely because of competition, right I mean you could see some of it for sure in like destiny. was. The one that failed miserably by. Anthem was really bad. And you could see you can see where some of that comes into play because you can see them like teetering off of each other right as they get developed a couple more but I would also like to I a lot of the credit where credit's due some people just creative and they just WANNA see their world created Competition or not those. Are the ones that we see the best games come from I. I would one hundred percent agree with you and I'm really regretting what I said because I don't think I, was able to fully articulate. What I was trying to say because I I don't want to. Say Like Oh. Yeah. It's best if we just like copy each other's games and the just like a few changes and. That's not what I want like. You said, those creative games that are just so different from anything else that anyone's ever played. But. I'm going to drop it. I'm going to. Bed. I will let me let let me say that I get what you're saying. I do whether you think you you didn't bring it like what you said makes sense like and I don't think anybody listening to understand like it makes sense. The fear of if there is no competition between the two, it could become stale at times. We might not see we might not see as as quickly. You know I. It's just one of those. So I get that one hundred percent I just think that. That's not at least not at this point in time. The thing that would. would. would be the play. Sure I. Think kind of circling back to the. Sosie the just I guess the main topic with thousand Microsoft I think the key component here is game pass. I think that is one hundred percent with this is what this is about. Without Game Pass. Would it? Would it be as big a deal it it still be a huge deal. Don't get me wrong. But. The fact that. Everything is just it's Day one launch including game pass there. I said before they're just making a pass onto something that cannot be ignored and it was already there like game pass was already kind of like you. Everybody knew about it like you know what? What grade a deal. Game Passes Fifteen million subscribers I think that they announced that that same day it's going to grow with this announcement. So. So game passes the. It's really I I feel like it's game pass versus. The playstation five, not necessarily the the series exer- s you know like like, yeah they've got these powerful consoles to compete with the playstation five. But at the end of the day, if you can play over one hundred and fifty games. Growing and growing. For, fifteen bucks a month or you're paying sixty to seventy I. think the announcement of the seventy dollars games. Kind of was a little little bit of a stab. In an Sony side there because I haven't seen I haven't seen anything like that from xbox. And it's and it's like it's not like Netflix where you know there's a bunch of movies on their own the new movies and. A lot of this is like the I party. Day One games boom they know. Now that includes Bethesda and all of them in any any xbox studio game like so yeah, that's the thing about game pass makes it so good like there have been other gaming subscriptions that do something similar to this, but not to the scale that this is not like I it's it's crazy. How well it isn't a nice thing is other than ex cloud. Games drew by or the Games you can play you download. So you're not streaming study. Look good. Playstation now a streaming service. Versus just downloaded play service for the most part. So like game past is I want to see competition for game pass because it would only. To your it would only drive a better deals better better stuff. Yeah. I don't think we'll see one at least not for a minute because it's GonNa take something a lot to catch up to what that things do. I sure because it when it first launched like it, it was a pretty big deal, but it wasn't anywhere near what it is. No, it was okay in. In I guess to to to counter by earlier point. Because it did. Just, an open discussion, right? These these are just. The first thoughts that are coming to mind. But so at the same time if we do have if we do have. These other subscription gaming as a service models and what do we do we fall into the same? Situation that we did with cable right? Like you you paid monthly for Cable and you've got everything. But now right now we split off to where people are cutting cutting cable and you've got netflix Hulu Disney plus Hbo Mix and your back pain what you were before. Great, it's it's a little more what you you have more control over what you pay for. So if you only one netflix. Cool you're paying fifteen bucks or whatever it is a month. But I, think that's that could be a dangerous good onto as. I think as well. I don't know. I don't think that's in the near future if it's. Definitely, not I don't think it's in the near future at all So but before I forget, we did have a We had a fan fan question pop up when we posted about this last week that I wanted to bring up. So, Aaron, wheeler, asked, how will this impact Sony and Intendo will all future games go straight to gain pass or just titles that are already out? So, maybe I'll answer the second question for so I, think the I think what we'll see. We we just saw doom eternal launch today I think. On Game Pass which is pretty big 'cause it's it hasn't been out but not even. Yeah. And it's phenomenal. Yeah. I think that's huge. I. Think we will. We've already seen some Bethesda Games on there. I think we'll. We'll probably see those permanent installments. I would think I, think previously, they were probably part of that rolling recycler. Yeah. They they cycle in and out we'll probably see the ones that are on there. Now probably come back and stay. Young guys what's that Skyro-. WE'LL GET SCOTT DON'T WORRY Don't worry another another way to play Sky Room. If Future Games I, like we already discussed we will see those day one on on game pass wreck. Now for the first part, how will this impact Sony Nintendo? I'll be honest. I don't think this impacts Nintendo at all I. I feel like Nintendo is is so far in just A. They're playing a completely different game. And that's Okay I works for them. It works for like you have seen no reduction in in switch sales in in switch game sales from from any of this stuff going on and nothing intendo or like cool to each other. Yeah. Like we saw Ori come to to slay choice I think kind of ties back into. xbox is open to Grin I. DON'T I. don't even think he's technically an xbox studio game. I don't think it is. Don't know I. The thing is I don't think Microsoft Season Intendo as a threat at all because there are two different markets and they know they're two different markets. So they don't a threat to them so I don't think that they have an issue but at the same time, they see it as an opportunity because who has a hold on the hand held market and who knows not to even compete with a handheld market. So. With nintendo dominating with the switch, why not push a few of your games out there it doesn't have to be all of them but pushing out there and you can make some money off of that. Remember. Last was last year. The last three went to the whole time. Were there. The one thing I wanted to see was game pass coming to the Nintendo everybody wanted to see Phil Spencer walk out on the Nintendo version show. Because there were so many rumors about a thang they were everywhere in honestly with as many rumors are it makes me wonder if it was actually like if they were having those discussions and it just kind of fell through. So, now's a good time. That Game Pass X. Clouds clouds per it's all you need. And I think it's as far as how this will impact. Sony think that's kind of that's probably what we covered, but maybe the question I think how we so I will find tune everything I've said because I feel like I've rambled a lot and I've kind of been all over the place. Just because I don't think I'm even locked into a specific viewpoint yet. Nobody knows nobody knows what what's going to happen for exclusives down the road for for Bethesda But. What I think it could mean I think it means that If. I had to just throw out an answer now I think it means that we will see. Games these Bethesda. Games come to both consoles. We'll see them on xbox playstation. Even. Oh, that's a lot of money to spend to allow playstation to be able to play them. But keep in mind they your allowing people to buy playstation five games and you're making you're making some residuals off that. It's not like you're just making nothing. But also you still have the incentive of game pass. It doesn't matter where the game is available. xbox is making it clear that no matter where you play Sky Rim elder scrolls six five, whatever it is. xbox is the place to do it whether it's on. Mobile or console. Its in game pass man. You just can't deny it, and if it's available everywhere and you're still the the the best platform. Or the the best place to play. I think that's all you need. You don't need to make it exclusive because you've already. You shown the audience that. You're the only option or you're the best option. And I still think we're going to start seeing Sony explosives because that's basically what i. that's basically what my whole thing boils down to is we're going to start seeing less sewn exclusives because of that purchase because I believe they're going to be doing wheeling and dealing. and to kind of spin this real quick onto same subject but a little bit different. Don't forget. This will in some way affect steam. Comes in and. Platforms as well because again now you're going to have the service on pc where I can play skyer and for free and why I don't need to buy it through steam anymore and stuff that. So that's another thing game passes. That's another territory game passes slowly starting to get into lot lot less so than than the whole Sony aspect of but that is that is something that is creeping that way. I think it will. It will be like what we saw with destiny to on a grander scale. Because what that launched did that launch on launch activision It. So it launched on Blizzard's dot net. Yep, and then came to steam yet and I think they're just wrapping up. This transition to where it's only like I think I just got an email the other day like you're running out of time to transfer your stuff over if. So I think we'll probably see something similar to wear. All right. After some after some time. I don't I. Don't know if it will work for for older games or not do they do they bother? I mean you can't. You can't take the licenses away from now the people that have already paid. Jamaica unavailable to where you can't purchase it any longer on steam you can only get it on Xbox I. Don't know I don't know what that means. I'm bothered with those old titles like. Just. Watching me I think that's the move. Don't don't bother with anything. Basically from here on out right in moving forward. Okay. It's only on the XBOX. Right. Yeah, man like my brain just win like a hundred miles an hour with this one because. I came into this and I'm like I really want to discuss this because I've heard so many different viewpoints on feel like they're all great. And I think that's what I enjoy about. These is because we have so many different views and opinions and nobody knows for sure and that's what makes it kind of fun. 'cause. You're tim has this idea of swapping exclusive for exclusive I don't see that happening but who knows I could be completely blindsided in in that could happen years from now got three coming to xbox. To Bundle packages, right? Exactly. They kingdom hearts just throwing it out there. Yeah. I don't think it's out of the question I just. I don't think that's the way that I see it. I, don't see it going that way I feel like like playstation is too stubborn and they know that this is their strong suit like you. You don't give up the the best part of of your strategy. Because that's that's always been what they've had exclusives and that's always been there opportunity or xbox is opportunity is exclusives so you really give that up. I don't I don't think they do. But. You could. You could very well prove me wrong in a couple of years. It's I. I would like would be very interested to see if Microsoft. If we hear something about Microsoft, trying to let them have an exclusive from Bethesda and Sony denying the trade I'd be extremely interested to see if that happens. Yeah. If we hear about these trades being denied yeah I think. With. As it is like you said, it could. Definitely. Be some some major PR backlash. I think something else. That, we didn't necessarily cover as an option. I don't WANNA keep digging up to discuss but I don't think we touched on this. We could very well see. I'll keep using elder scrolls sixes. The example we could see elder scrolls six launch on both xbox series accent police station five, but we could see it. Kind of like how we've seen with call of duty and destiny in the past to where. playstations got an exclusive things maybe you get exclusive DLC or early access it all it until you get it I kind of. So maybe those are the kinds of things that we see. I think that's PROB. That's. That's almost guaranteed I would ask guarantee that. Yeah. I think we see some exclusive stuff like that. kind of like bare minimum like, Hey, here's. If nothing else here's the reason to get on xbox because you either get to play three days early or you get some extra deal see stuff. I was. Just WanNa freaking move man like balls they had by that like I remember waking up because I think you put it in discord what happened and I was still really groggy in asleep and I kind of just clicked on it, and I was like instantly awake like whites. This. What is some of the biggest game news we've gotten in in years to be I think to be completely honest. It's the biggest game. We've gotten him years in wonder almost in one to two generations like this is this is huge massive. So Yeah I think we've already wrapped up our opinions so I won't keep digging them up. I think that's what makes this soul. Intriguing above all else. This is some of the biggest news we've had at least one to to console generations. It's so crazy because nobody that's why nobody knows what's going to happen. It's not like we've seen something like this happened before and you can be predicting That's why there's so many different. This is what I think this is like so many different opinions because this is on such a massive scale that realistically nobody knows what the move is. and. There's multiple good moves like there's like if my move is improperly that doesn't mean I'm going to be dissatisfied with the other because I'm sure one way or another it's probably a good move at least for gain pass owners. so It's just mind boggling. The xbox is just so consumer-friendly right now like it's Yes there. I've said it a billion times as episode, but they're they're just hard to ignore. Even if you're a hardcore playstation fan, you can't you can't just shy away from the from the. Opportunities that gave offers like. mean. Honestly, this is a simple thing but game not game pass well is part party game pass that launching me being yellow to play fallout seventy-six like I have been at work for thirty or forty, five minutes on my break. You know to do my little daily quests on my own my tablet you know has just been phenomenal a stupid simple little experience like that is just. It's Great Yup. One hundred percent man. I'll will I'll leave it on this. So Phil Phil Spencer when he was asked about death loop and As a ghost wire. I they they were originally playstation exclusives and when he was asked about it, he says, we're going to honor that they are still going to remain playstation exclusives but anything after that is going to be on a case by case basis right? which is fair. That's fair and so on them actually. Yeah. So I leave it on that just because that just kinda shows they haven't really said one way or the other this is still up in the air. Case by case basis. So maybe we'll maybe they do split it. You know maybe we see some that are exclusive in some that aren't might. that. For Sure I. It's not so much. The little titles it's going to be the bigger titles. Everyone's questioning. Yeah. Like. But I think I think them honoring the death luke thing not only is a good move onto them. It's the only right move right? Like any other move and you'll be looked at as like bad people's Yep. So good on them, and like you said, they're consumer-friendly and they're going down that Paso. There's no good guy bad guy here between the console generations. playstations do what they're doing and I love what they're doing and I can't wait to play the Games and I, think Microsoft's doing really well and I think this is going to be in extremely fun and interesting console generation coming up I really really do. I think I said it either on last episode the One before. The different directions that that that we're seeing we're seeing this this accessibility route with xbox. We're seeing this. Let's show you what the future of gaming really is with Sony. Awesome we like for at least for the people that are getting both consuls we like we all win. That's awesome. Though we're finally seeing a divergence from I. Mean I don't think like previously with the the three, sixty three and the xbox one and playstation for. What were the differences like like to be completely fair? What were the the main difference is not other than the exclusives not a whole lot. They were there literally identical. Yeah. So it at least with this now, we're seeing a shift to where we're actually seen some difference in in what they have to offer. So, we'll all win I do WanNa I. Actually saved. We had one more question come in. From fanmail if you will. This from Fulton I lifted at the end for a reason so he asked What's what's coming up for the FAM-? Like, what, what's what's something? That you can expect in the in the future and I don't want to I. Don't want to give too much away but I also want to at least give you guys a heads up. Tim Tim, Tim, and some friends went on on an adventure lately. You might have you might have remembered some of the some of the stories last year of the Denim Demon you might've even seen him on stream last year if you tuned into extra life. I, think if you if you tune into social discord. Over, the next next couple of weeks or so you'll. You'll kind of see how that that adventure played out for better or worse? And I would say just keeping minded October is Historically when we do our extra livestream so stay tuned for some some details they're. Outside of that streams are probably GonNa Change Tim if you want to jump into that a little bit. So you. kind of hit the floor running here when it comes. October. So for those of you who don't know me. For those of you who do I guess or anybody Horror, is my Jonrowe always has been always will be, I, grew up on the horror franchise of not only video games but movies as a kid like that was what I was thrown into I've loved every minute of it. Thank you grandma. And so gonna hit the ground running I, believe believe it or not I never played the first outlast. So we'll start. Playing, some outlast to begin our stuff. We got some things going on I'm going to do some co laughing with someone hopefully what my life absolute dearest friends on the streaming stuff. So keep an eye on that. There's some really interesting Spooky Games are popping up out of nowhere that I cannot wait to get my hands on. So if you like those kinds of games you liked scares you like to have fun time. Now look. So here's the cool. Here's here's the thing. I have played these games forever like ever since I was a kid I still very much get freaked out and scared and terrified. But that's why I come back. It's like the same reason some people really like roller coasters they know they could die. But they keep doing it anyway it's the same reason I come back to haunt games I live I live for that kind of adrenaline rush. So if you like that if you want that adrenaline rush, I'm telling you this October we're gonNA. Have some fun. It's going to be a good time. It's always my favorite time of year for for streams man without a doubt. Hundred percent would that said I know we haven't really done I like hugh human before but I really like it I like. That because we can ask each other questions back and forth sometimes, the best ones come from a come from the outside. So if you guys do you have any questions. You know if anything comes up in the in the news in the next week or so or just anything ex generated or specific game related, you got any questions all for us. You can email them to us at fam. Fam At four. DOT COM drop them in our discord. We've got fan mail. There, you can draw your questions Wherever twitter. FACEBOOK instagram whatever you WANNA do. We'd love your questions whatever it may be. But I think that's going to wrap it up for episodes seventy eight as always we appreciate the support. Hope you guys like this discussion it was a it was definitely a fun one for me one I've wanted to do for the past week I guess we'll see you guys in the next couple of days for some some spook. Tober streams. But until the next episode. Be Safe Take Care. Thanks for listening to fan cast. Be sure to subscribe the latest episodes and follow us on twitch twitter and our other socials at four. All mankind.

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Hot, Bothered & In the Moment with Tina Rocca

Sex With Emily

56:50 min | 1 year ago

Hot, Bothered & In the Moment with Tina Rocca

"Thanks for listening to sex with Emily today show. I'm joined by Tina Roca a healthy lifestyle. Wellness expert who works with the company Karez talk about how CBD and sex go hand in hand also answering your emails topics include who knew how much plans and CBD could do for your sex drive. Stop the madness ways to lessen your exciting. Actually, get you in the mood. Okay. You broke up. How long do you have to wait to be friends and Sexton fails signed you might not be in the right relationship? All this and more. Thanks for listening. So you all know that everyone here, it's sex with Emily loves the womanizer, but no one more than producer, Jamie. So it's kind of an obsession yet. Thank for that under your pillow. Yeah. I mean is that bad? No. It's awesome. Mean, jamie. You know, that some might say we have the best jobs in the world because we get to take all the new models home. We try them out. We review them and not so long ago. We did bring home the womanizer premium, which somehow I don't know how they do it. They changed the game. Again. I know every time I think there's no way that it can get better. And it does and the premium is basically everything I love about the womanizer already. But it's got a bunch of mazing new technology, and it just makes it so much better. Right. Okay. Hang on. Let's pick our favorite new feature. I mean, a uses the same pleasure air technology to indirectly stimulate the clitoris with those pulses of air pressure. It does it feels. Like, the best oral sex of your life. But there's no actual licking. Yeah. I mean, it's so good. And it has that little round silicone was cylinder that goes over your clitoris and those air pulses are exactly exactly what I need. But I'd have to say my new favorite features, probably the smarts islands. Exactly. It's the best. You guys this mart? Silence. Keeps the womanizer silent Intel you touch a to your skin. So it's discreet and roommate stone year it, I know, and I have so much. All right. I mean, it's amazing. So I don't know I have to pick something different. I'm gonna say that the thing I love besides the smart Thailand is the entire toyboy is all bodies, save silicone and its luxuriance to hold. I know it's really nice. I really I don't. Okay, jamie. Thanks for sharing. My obsession for the womanizer. Course if any of you haven't tried the womanizer yet, now's the time to see all of them, just go to sex with Emily dot com slash womanizer. That's my site sex with Emily dot com slash W. O M A N I Z are. The is. Is that our sacred? Cruel is they call them in a bygone. You got gotta boyfriend because my many here, he just got his heartbroken. Anything's. You're kind of cute standards. The women know about shrinkage isn't a common knowledge, do you mean like laundry shrinks about sex so much kidney while flair on being bed? Pretty good. But, you know, Emily's not the kind of Joe you just playing. You're listening to sex with Emily, we're talking about sex relationships and everything in between for Murph mission checkout sex with Emily dot com. You can easily check out all their blogs and subscribe to the podcast and also media at sex with Emily across the board. You can find me on Sirius XM Monday through Friday five to seven PM Pacific on channel stars one. Oh, nine for more, great sex talk, and you can get a free three month trial at sex with dot com slash s x am hope. You guys enjoyed the show. All right. My guest here is Tina Roca. She's a bachelor degree and masters of exercise science certified aromatherapist for over twenty five years experience essential oils, healthy lifestyle wellness expert workers Karez as their CB imbo Tannock -als expert. And I love this quote here we pulled Tina, I've always embraced a mind body spirit approach to life that includes positive thinking, kindness and intuitive guidance for health. More conscious living, and I can already tell like team has been in the office for twenty minutes. And I was like we just got on the mics because we're already getting into the conversation that I know everybody's going to going to benefit from other party 'em as well. So thank you for being here today, teen often Q. So we met initially because you do you work with charisma who we've worked with few months now, and they do make some amazing products to help people to help us get more in the mood for sex for men and for women. But before we get to let's just talk about a little bit about CBD and sex. It's really been an emerging topic right now, it's so popular every damn getting hit up by other people and brands you wanna talk about it. So people say that CBD it's all hype. And I know you're really into quality ingredients products because sure there's anything some of the CBD might not be the same quality, which your thoughts on CBD and healing properties and CBD is from plants. I love plan. Plants. I love everything plant based it's a holistic approach for your wellbeing. You know, there's a lot of confusion with CBD. It's not psychoactive. So it's not the psychoactive part of the cannabis plant. That's going to make you high. It is really more the medicinal part the non psychoactive part of the plant that is actually a holistic approach for your health and should be included. I think in everyone's health in the case of Karez the products are for sexual wellness. And you know, everyone deserves a sensual and intimate in the moment divine. Yeah. Feeling sex life. Yes. Sometimes for some people. It might be a little challenging to get into the mood. Yeah. Well, let's talk about that. Because I love you're saying about the sex as we get older like how you just that. It is mind body spirit. Can we just talk about that per minute? Let's like about mind body spirit insects that because when people is the show I give a lot of different tips in a lot of different areas. And and it just like anything like if you wanna lose weight, you can't just work out if to change your diet, your sleep patterns how much water dick and was Sex's same thing. I can give people techniques I could give him positions. I tell people to breathe mortaring. But as a whole like how is your diet though? So sex is the same way about my body spirit. So just yeah, I feel like you have just had some interesting thoughts on that about what you realize, well, you know, Sex's in an intimate alignment and involvement of the body mind and spirit. So that's like a holistic connection. If you really stop to sit and think about those things and how they come together for you in your life. You would come up with some answers to that or some desires that you want to integrate into those areas and sexism part of everyone's life. I mean, it's you know, a vital part of life being able to connect with your partner. For pleasure is a huge part of your life and sex can be a fulfilling relationship for your whole life. No matter how old you are. It's something that doesn't age. And it's something that's always there. Something might change in your body functioning or whatever. And that's where we can look to. An alternative like CBD to sort of help stimulate some of these less anxiety. So he also anxious right? I mean, that's the thing. It gets you in the mood. It it just takes the edge off it works like right away to what I've taken like I felt much less. I did both did it in the moment. And then the daily sprayed the women's health spray in. It's like, oh, I just feel calmer. Just it just does that does it takes the job of things it will, you know, every person is different. So every experience with CBD's different might be faster acting for someone might take a little few minutes longer. But it's definitely a good way to enhance your sexual energy. Yeah. Let's talk about that. Because you are an expert in energy as well, energy work. Yes. How do you? How do you explain that? Well, actually, you know energy medicine is really about restoring flow, a flow, balance and harmony into the body or the system. So the way that works is everything we do every day is energy. We wake up that's energy. How you wake up? What mood urine that's energy? How you talk to people. How you respond to people in the matter where you are. That's an energy flow. That's n out you know, and energies, really important because the way you think helps your body to organize and control the growth and repair of every cell in your body and that affects tissues and organs to. So if you make a choice in your life. To think about your energy, and how you're going to put that out there to another human being that you come in contact with you will start to shift. How you feel your wellbeing your health your wellness? So what are some preps? Okay. This is where my so I just left therapy at there this morning. And I was talking to route this because I and she does like EMT art therapy. It's like trauma that it's a lot of different things. You talk a lot about meditation. I've always been a meditative we were talking about different kinds of meditations like loving kindness. Do you do any meditations like left sending love and kindness into the world? And yes, absolutely. And so we were talking about this because I was saying, you know, I am actually in a really actually ended their I've been at for a while. I was like I I've done for now. I mean, I think it's a lifelong process like everything it's like, I think I've just gone through some stuff. And I think I'm done. And I said I'm so grateful for because we looked at where have far is going through some specific thing with my family, and it's kind of moved through it in the last four months five months, I would seen and I was like, you know, I just think is our great. I said I wanted to pause like I a lot of things that I came into you for I was stressful. I bay businessman Goering Allott, and I said endow everything just kind of sorted out. Like, these amazing people we just heard like James moving for three years, Julian SAM's key mentioned. Well, you know, I said, I appreciate them. And I tell them which is what what about during your meditations even. If you just think about them when you go to sleep when you're doing your meditation in the morning, and you're like sending like bringing them into your circle of of love when you're thinking about them, like sending them Jamie and Juliane, and and and and Sam like what you know, just that it was they will feel it. And I, and I believe that like the gratitude that I feel the love that you have for anyone in your life and just having those moments. So for me, it's through meditation that I ground myself and to me that is energy. And like, even if I start bringing the people in my life and sending them Lavin, then when you see them there's an energy to that. So that's kind of how I is that kind of what you're in a way. Yes. That's that's a great way to. You know, start to have that energy. You know, when we look at energy, and we look at life, and we look at how we treat others. It's all about. Yeah. That's the connection and people wanna be seen and hurt. So the best way to love people is to hear them see them, and let them know you're grateful for them. And sometimes part of that is just by showing them spy what you do. And how what you say. So it's really important. It's not only important to meditate on these things or prey on these things. But to be that person in the move in the world like that the really important thing is to somehow get this in tier being naturally. So that like say, you know, there's people that wake up mad, right? There's peop-. That wake up happy. There's people that wake up worry, there's all kinds of of energy to wake up with. And so you kind of have to make a choice. You know, how do I wanna live my life? How do I wanna wake up? What's important to me is kindness important like for me. I just hit data's like so important by long. I gonna choose that over having an argument with someone or telling someone they're wrong. Right. You know? And you know, it's okay. Like an arguments. There's, you know, do you want to be right or do you want to get along? Right. You know what? I mean. Part of what we're having in the world is seeing a lot of people argue, right? We see it on TV. Yeah. And you know, that is just not moving the world forward. The way we move the world forward is through love and kindness. And connection and sex is a big part of that. Again, it is it is you're right. If you're walking around like negative and angry and anxious because what I've noticed on the show and people call in like, the ink Zaidi is one of the biggest killers of our sex drive. We don't have desire were angry at our partners were anxious about work and the last thing on our mind is sex and connection to our partner. So just to circle back. I love the ethos of going in and yeah, just being you know, being that good making you choice to be a good person or be a kind person to be giving in the world. But even if you feel that sometimes you just like put sex takes work in my associate for women our minds, not there, and we're worried about stuff. So and protects is about pleasure. This is what's so interesting to me is that we're told that sexism as pleasurable thing on the planet, and that we all think about sexy one sex were driven to make decisions by sex. But yet, he just so complicated. It's very rarely stays that amazing for that long. Like, maybe the first time, we're Wissam one of the first honeymoon phase. But after a while there's going to be problems, then we don't know to talk about it. So you know, it gets to be a mess and the younger you are. I think the more inhibited you are about talking about. Yeah. What the problems are. Because I think there's a lot of embarrassment. You know, maybe still for for people talking about sex, and that's one of the nice things about getting older. Yeah. You're not embarrassed. It. Let's talk about you were saying I would change over time. And so can we say your age do care? Like, are you good or fifty forties? Fifties. Do I mean, I'm I barely talk about my age. But I'm good with it. I hope everybody, you know. I don't know. I'm saying they entitled do Al to all race it on my life forties. Yeah. Oh god. I'm I've never said that now right late fifties. But let's talk about then sexually. 'cause you were saying you wish you I wish I knew what I knew. I wish I knew in my twenties. What I knew. Now what how am I thirty? I didn't start this. I was thirty five. So at a great amazing. Oh my God. If someone told me that it wasn't all about the guys pleasure and this. So I have an orgasm sex could be fun. And here's why not there's nothing wrong. With me. I'm not broken and all the things. Yes. And it was about my pleasure. And the that my partner is going to respond when I'm happy, and I feel good didn't know any oven. But now, we know so how was it changed for you now sexually or just like, I just think you're free. It really doesn't matter. Right. I mean, you don't first of all you don't have to worry about pregnancies about soft the do. Right. So I think for younger people you still have a little concern with that. Maybe even if you're on birth control. You know, you hear things happen. I just think when you get older you're like, I'm despite this is it I'm gonna go forward. I'm enjoy my life and live at highest vibrational level. Now, you said you've two young daughters got married twenties. Yeah. You do tell them this stuff. Do every day about set. You do tell me which topic in our household and in our family. Okay. Good. You know, we're an Italian fam-. Okay. And we do talk a lot about sex because we're mostly women. Right. Okay. Now. It's a big thing. You teach them being empowered in their body. And my daughters are like very aware. There and they we've had very open detailed conversations about sex even little weird issues like for the younger one like, oh, I d did guy. And you know, it was awful. And you know, I mean, it was a bright friend. And I'd be like, well what happened? You know? Why was it bad? Right. She would go into well. You know, I just didn't feel this right infiltrate on or not say, well, what do you do? And you know, what do you like Baz have you expect and you know, right? And she'll just like she'll go I can't believe I'm telling. Yeah. But that's so good. See the Taiwan. All moms to be parents talked who else are they gonna talk to because that's when women's are faking orgasms insert things then I talked to them about that. Okay. Because as you know, faking orgasms is a huge huge thing. That will never go away ever always trying to be in everyone's sexual playbook. Because women feel like that's what men want, you know, an Icee we've got to get those guys to step to the plate. Yeah. And let them know. Hey, it's not happening. Here's what you can do Ackley. Right. And you know, if you have to bring a toy into the play if you have to do coconut oil, right? Whatever, you know. Yeah. If you know, whatever you have to do to get that experience. Yeah. Yeah. Be comfortable asking him to be comfortable to ask for what you want. And I think for younger people that is not easy now. So the differences you get older you're on limited time limited thing, you know, like like, I'm your oven sacks. And I'm gonna make his worth my while. We're naked it's happening. But I know I've out exactly like I don't wanna lose time would everything that somebody time with friends where I'm like my issue. Short. You realize like it's too short to have you at dinner with someone or you just want your friends of your friend trust your your sex to be your sexy. You don't want around if you don't even want to go to dinner now unless he's going to be fun. Right. That's like FaceTime. Then I if it's date like be pre go out, and you don't then just figure if you want to sit there with them Deepak Chopra says that who you eat with is so important for your health, meaning the energy feel during that meal. So just think if you go to dinner with say someone in you start getting a vibe like who their meaning or who they're not for me, or you know, I don't like what they said or and you can't move beyond. You're not going to digest your food problem. How you're not gonna you know, it's gonna set you that makes sense I'd levels, and he says don't eat a meal with anyone you don't really like. Wow. So maybe just go for drinks. Then. Just rule out the dinner. But no, I think that's true. I mean, I think it's all that's the energy. Right. That's the Energia. It's God don't have sex with people. You don't really like. Well, you know, things happen. It does happen. So tell me Karez and how you guys came up with this on by a Canadian company called rise life sciences. Okay. And they have these products in the moment. Women still in amends daily product, which are CBD, and we do a lot of testing to make sure they're pure talked about ingredients or how did you choose these ingredients in it? Well, like, what is the purpose of all of them? Because it seems like they're so specific, and they're not, you know, it's it's like, it's true. They're very specific. And and along with the CD, we have some ingredients in there that are synergistically bioavailable to help the CBD. And that are, you know, herbs that stimulate, you know, kind of sexual energy horny goat weed horny Gotari that is a real thing. Yes. It's a it's a real thing. Okay. It's an herb. And you know, like you've heard of Maka Maka is really measly. Yeah. That's why did it on my younger daughter is doing a lot of Maka, okay or smoothies. And I said, hey, did you know that's gonna like make you horny which you say she like, no, it's true. But ASO, that's why love there was map. All these ingredients and yet Mockus powerful. So and also the courtes- sets is a fungus and it directly boosts libido and stimulates hormone production and activates sexual desire. So these are all natural herbs and and plant based ingredients along with the CB deed that can enhance your sexual wellness. And how Ed so let's talk about. Okay. And we have a lot of great products. What do you like what have you gosh? Well, like just in general like, what are you have you? What do you feel about the or the response you've gotten from in the moment, we have gotten a really great positive response from it. And I think it's a wonderful product. You know to enhance your sexual wellness experience. I think that it is a very stimulating product for sexual energy. And I think it worked it does. I feel like it works. How's it kinda makes you feel more calm? And then you already here's the thing. It's also like here's the pro one of the problems with sex is that we're anxious about it because we're thinking about it or not in the mood. And then it's all of a sudden upon us men and women get row so differently. So just the act of saying I treat him I'm buying myself. This in the moment spray is plant based it's not like a pill like, you know, what the ingredients are. And then you take it. And then you know, will I thirty minutes for toward twenty to thirty minutes. And then you're getting your body, and your it's a it's like, the it's all about having that let that routine around sex rather than just I think the problem is that because women are expected to get up and be ready to go perform that just makes us anxious, but to have bap something that gets you in the moment, he do a few sprays. You kind of relax maybe some. Four play making that maybe you're masturbated. Whatever it is. It does get you started like a it's like a a ritual. Well, you know, the CBD contributes to less stress and anxiety. So for some people. The thought of having sex and is little anxiety guessing. Yeah, it depends where you are at your relationship. If it's your first time or your hundredth time. Right. You know, depending what's going on in your life. And how you're feeling and where your stress levels are. You know? So it's a way to enhance the moment. Take the edge off Mon a little bit of anxiety. And it doesn't end it can enhance your performance or that inhibit like people have a wine. Yes. Or to our bottle and then then early. Yeah, you're like okay now, I'm not inches anymore. But I'm also exhausted. I don't wanna have sex exact. So that's what I like about this because you're like, it's right by my bed, and then you take it. And then you're like, yeah. You don't have to worry because it's not psychoactive. So you know, what about the psychoactive one? What about what he clashed heart is THC, right? Which redoing what how do any of that the products? You know? I mean THC's out there. It's available. And you know, I'm certain things are really good about it. But it is psychoactive. Meaning that you know, it could take you to a place. Maybe that Ryo wanna be right. Exact in a sexual moment. Whereas the CBD is I think a lot more wellness in hand. Yeah. But we're saying earlier that so all C B D, though is not created equal. That's true. Okay. So tell me about how you go about causes sourcing, the creating these products that you know, that it is the quality CBD, I'm so new to this too. And I keep hearing about parks, and I don't work with everybody just worked with the things that I've tried. I like, and I liked your products. But I also know that there's a lot out there. Now there is like the wild west the wild west and podcast. And we'd right now are all the rage people. Don't know what's in there. Product on. I'm a plat expert aromatherapist or Vala gist. And so, you know, I love everything plant, but you have to really know your ingredients in what you're sourcing from all our hemp is our Ganic, and we source it from a farm in Washington county, Oregon, you know, and it's all hemp snot THC, and you know, for cannabis consider to be considered him. It can't have more than zero point three percent THC. So that's very low. And once you get an isolate you it's like ninety nine percent pure. So you're getting more pure product one that doesn't have bacteria anything harmful in it. Which to me is really important. Yeah. Absolutely. What you're? Swallowing or taking right? And so you're really you said you're very specific about everything that you put your body for all these years. You've been you're Roman therapy expert. Can you talk about essential oils in, aromatherapy, because you brought us some beautiful candles here. I love essential oils. Like, I have one of those things in my house where I put the oil. I love that we usually have in the office too. So I was like what what I don't even understand the science behind it and people always want to at sent and fair moans. And like how does that all relate to say? Well, I mean, this is your smelling something good can make you feel sexy. That's why people wear perfume, but the problem with perfume. And all that is that there's synthetic so they're not alive meaning that they're just synthetic chemicals. Made in a lab in a test tube Somme have no energy. So essential oils are distilled or extracted from real plants herbs. Citrus. Fruits flowers, and so they're they're capturing they're alive. So it's the life force of the plant. So it's like getting something that's alive because the molecules aren't stopping they're not dead. So you're getting this living breathing, you know, kind of mild that makes sense. Yeah. Ended up so rang dead sent on you. You're not strain bad was not sound secretary. I'll inhaling. Yeah thing. So you're getting this thing that's alive. And what happens is this is energy. And so this is going to affect us alive. Right. As a like say, lavender, everyone knows. Oh, yeah. I wanna sleep or relax. I'm gonna do lavender. So and that that's really true, but not all lavender's or created. Right. Well, so you have to again. No where you're getting it. No, you're source. I buy from farm grown plant based. Products that I know these people, you know, for years, I love the lavender in them in ice live in San Francisco. So and Napa Sonoma, okay? So the one you just brought me laying Lang and jasmine and jasmine and vanilla like I love vanilla that's a sexual combination. This is sexy. That's why I wanted to give you that I'll mob. Thank you. So I've been nila n- Hanson's inner peace because I always tell people during sex like this is one of my things when we get all loss, and we're anxious always say anchor anchor on your senses, like if your minds tripping like I'm not gonna have an orgasm or I'm not turned on or it into laundry. I'm worried about the kids I say, we'll think about your senses and engaged him. So I was vanilla candle light by the bed because I know that I will smell that candle. I can feel my hands or my partner's body. I can hear my breath. Maybe I'm tasting his lips who knows something. But of you, take all the senses, you ground you in the moment. You can't be in your in your head. So there is a lot to be said for having. Like, the right sense in your bedroom. And then when those sense are essential oil. Yeah, they are going to do things to your mind. So they're going to out of their failed remind they're going to relax your mind, lavender, you know. There's a lot of research on it that it has the ability to induce asleep like state, so I'm making candles. A Karez has a candle that little one here. Okay. So and this is a with the cinnamon us very sexually stimulating. This is good and the orange orange clove in Cinemax CBD, coconut wax candle. Yeah. And it has CBD in it. How does this? Are you just light it yet? The CBD will come out into the atmosphere. And then has that will you just light it feel you'll feel relaxed and don't want to take it home with it. I wanna light it here. Yeah. Played it here. Everybody on joy it. Okay. Got you know, so. Little candles for travel to. Yes, that's a little travel sized for Carrozza. So the cinnamon is really good for overcoming fatigue. So if you're tired it's going to stimulate a little bit. It's also good for sexual arousal that orange is going to be relaxing and give you a sense of peace and joy, and you know, all those things along with the in the moment spa. This are all a great will this create the environment? You create the atmosphere. It's not just a one fix. Yeah. It's like create a sexy space like what about your budget? Do you put attention to like what you're I got candles every Rier? I have you know, like really beautiful lizards of plants because I love plants in nature to create the environment would warr. Yeah. It is. That's good. That's what I'm creating right now. I'm creating the sex. Theus bedroom on the planet. Good. Yes. I hope I put it out there. How are you making it? I I started I hired someone who's like she's working with me like doing like functions entire house. So that was like, oh there was like a dead tree in my attraction space. We had to move. I didn't even notice. There was a like I'm so busy that I'm trying to bring it in space. Right. So I was like oh my God. And then I'm talking about their sex and I've got one nightstand. That's broke and like what? So I'm I'm actually just I've gotten rid of everything that wasn't serving me. And I'm just starting from finding what texture speak to me, and what colors in my room and just allotted like textures at sense and comfortable like the best sheets and sheets irrelevant of Orton, so important. Yeah. Alba's sheets feel on your body is a big which sheets do think. Well, I'll gosh, unfortunately, all those sheets are so expensive that feel really I know, but it's worth it. Because you every day and you buy a couple sets, and then you're done for forever. Yeah. That's true. Don't have bad sheets than your bad. It's bad bad energy for yourself. Bad sheets. Don't feel good. No. And then you have to get the higher cotton count. You know, the Egyptian. Yeah. You to count they feel better. It's important. You guys you sleep on? He spent more time in bed than you do anywhere else. That's important. So why do you think people should try Crespo like from your experience? And what you know. Like, what do you think would be the best reason why how do you think because it feels good? Dis. Nope. I just think it's another way to enhance your sexual wellness and feel good and have a good experience. And you know, not be over the top. You know, like as if Pete you're drinking alcohol, or if you're kinda even you out doing something else pass just a nice, you know, really, soothing calm way to get in the mood. Absolutely. Thank you Tina Roca. I have to ask you five questions that I ask all my guests are simple, the quickey questions are just about you. Okay. Your biggest turn on. Oh, got everything. Okay. A tiny one everything would do. Well is this like body parts or Amazon smart metal good one? Smart man is my turn on art. Okay. Biggest turnoff mean people? Yeah. Okay. Perfect date night. Candle lie. Nice music naked. Golly. Yeah. Coddling? Yes. What is your biggest dating dealbreaker you go out with someone at this happens? What's your dealbreaker? Narrow minded nece talking mean to someone even like a server in a restaurant. I'm very sensitive. Yeah. People treat people. Yeah. Okay. Your number one sex tip. Oh my gosh. Cuddle a lot and kiss a lot. Yes. I feel you. Thank you so much for being here. I appreciate it. Thanks tina. All right, guys. We are going to take a quick break. When we come back. We're going to get into your emails. Okay. So I know there's a lot of talk about CBD lately. And I know you don't all live in California. And so James here with me because I talked to you in a help you out in some of the confusion her and all this talk about CBD. You guys know that my Phyllis is such an important part of having great sex. And you've been hearing me talk about all the time. But I get it. It's not the easiest thing to do. We're about Kreso. We love them. They developed their own line of all natural hemp as supplements to help you of a more enhanced sexual experience. So you guys know the best way to have stronger orgasms is to feel more in your body and to breathe like I can't emphasize this enough. I mean, Jamie, I talked to you about breathing more and oh my God. It's like a new orgasm. Yeah. Breeze to orgasm 'cause we like hold our breath and we're anxious. So let me tell you about Karez daily spray. I because I love this. It's one for man in one for women. You just put five sprays onto your tongue. Okay. Let's do it. Now, we do it. I do the morning book hair. So it's good. So here's the thing about the spray. It contains a unique formula of organic ingredients they support sexual function along with caresses proprietary nanna CBD, which is an ultra pure extract. That's quickly absorbed professor results. So you spray under tongue absorb see? This is why been so calm lately. I take this. I noticed I can tell the different days. I'm like I've been taking it you guys for like a month combined with her herbs. That's they say in the pack. Herb's herbs combined with herbs and essential oils that support sexual do. They do. And that happens tracked. Go here's the thing. Hemp extract. That's the gold. That's what reduces anxiety inflammation and helps with your overall move, which also helps my back pain, Jayme. Same its own compensating. Okay. So now, they also have the in the moment spray. So when you're ready to get intimate. You're like, oh, I'm good turned out. I'm going to have sex. It's time for crisis in the moment spray, which is just a faster way to get in the mood. So you don't have to like. Late all the candles and have three glasses of wine. I mean, he's still capable. Maybe one does one. So it uses the same extract. I talked before but with a whole new set of botanical ingredients to help. No. He thinks up. He just put a few sprays under the tongue. Okay. I kind of want to do this too. Because I'm going on a date. We'll do it. Now. Do you think I should? Okay. Well. Fifteen minutes it worked. Fifteen minutes, and I've used as prefects, and it does get you in the mood. So as always check with your doctor before using always check with your doctor before you start any supplement routine. And if you're ready to elevate your mind body connection, go to sex with Emily dot com slash Carrozza. That's my site sex with Emily dot com slash K. A R E Z Z A today. 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Taking your calls live on the air, two hours every weekday if you're Sirius XM subscriber, you already know how great it is. If you never tried it. Get a free trial for thirty days, just go to sex with Emily dot com slash s x m that's sex with only dot com slash s x m today to try Sirius XM for yourself. See there. All right, guys. We are back at I'm going to answer your emails coz, I love it. It's my favorite thing to do. I love answering them all you gotta do is go to sexual me dot com. Click to ask Emily tab, built the short form or emails feedback at sex with Ellie dot com. However, you do it include your name your age where you live in. How you listen to the show. Thanks, guys. Pretty Jamie's going to read the emails. All right. So this first one comes to us from Erin who's thirty one in California. Dear Emily, I listen to your recent guest spot on the shameless sex podcast, and the thing that piqued my interest. The most was when you were discussing becoming friends with an x months after you've broken up with them back story. One of my best friends came out and visited me two months ago, and we became intimate when we were together she told me how she felt about me, and that she had these feelings for very long time. I on the other hand care about her very much more than she knows. But I did not want to open myself up because we live in different states. I don't wanna do long distance due to a failed one I had in the past. And we talked about being together when we're together. Unfortunately, for me, she met a guy and became serious with him very quickly. I had to cancel my trip, and I've been dealing with the grief and follow of a broken heart because of how I. Early feel about her my friend ended up buck my number because of me, but it's not meal social media. I understand why she bought by number and I'm not mad at her for doing. So my question to you. How much time do we need to have passed before it try to reach out to hopefully, reconcile the friendship. I want to acknowledge what she did was the right course of action that I'm sorry for my actions that forced her hand at doing. So, but I don't wanna lose one of my best friends like her my life. Additionally in that message. Do you think it should tell her my feelings for her even if she may still be together with this guy down the road if and when I do thank you. All right, Erin, I really feel for you. And this is a tricky one. So here's what I gotta say. It sounds like you're still trying to figure out your feelings and sort it out with her. Here's the facts where I'm hearing is you you don't want a long distance relationship, which I think makes sense you're in your thirties. I don't know where she lives but long distance and it worked for you before that was true. And so just know that you believe that. And that's still is the case. And then you're asking me, how can you be friends again? But it sounds like you still don't you're not ready. To be friends because you still have these intense feelings for her. So I think you have to wait wait this one out for both of you. Because if you send a message, a direct message on Instagram or something diem, and she's like, oh, God, you know, just letting her know that you're still here, and you sell these feelings just very confusing. It's a lot of back and forth. So I would let her focus on this new love at hand and take some time and kind of like work under self and and work on people that leave near near you. Because it sounds like that's what you need right now. So so yes, I did talk about being friends, but I'm not friends with by Xs until many many months go by it depends like right to be honest. My ex spent three months he just called me. Just now coming to the station. And he's like, I wanna see you wanna get launched. I was like, you know, what I'm not ready yet to be honest because I know that I still want to sleep with them. I also know he's not the right guy for me. So I need a few more months. I've had other friends where I'm like, oh, you know, what we can be friends right away. So I think it's a case by case basis. But right now the thing. That is clear to me is that she left you found someone else. Now, you're pining for her even more we often want what we can't have. And it's really real. We've all been there we go out with someone. We're not that into him. And then we find out they're not into us. And then we want them more. There's a certain way our brain works, which isn't always healthy. So if your friendships meant to be your your love is meant to be or which way it goes give it some more time and then focus on dating and focus on your life. And then see if you can reconcile a friendship down the road. This next one comes to us from Scott thirty three in Ontario. Hi, Emily until very recently. My wife went for full, Brazilian wax. Very regularly recently. However, she's decided to let her Peba out with minimal trimming. I wouldn't say that it has impacted our sex life is still going down on her, etc. But I honestly do prefer both aesthetically and for oral sex a bear or neatly trimmed other region. What is the best way to politely? Bring this up Scott. Okay. So here's the thing about women, pubic hair and men's opinion. Yin's about it. I mean, this is the thing she gets decide, you know, what she wants to do with it. And it sounds like she was just kinda like you know, what I did the Brazilian. But she just let it grow because I've been there too. Like, oh, God another appointment each month. Don't want to get my nails donde, Oregon. I heard on or you know, there's just so many appointments women can have. So maybe she just decided she's going to let it go for. Well. I'm glad to hear it hasn't impacted your sex life. But it is your wife, and I understand that you've gone to certain aesthetic. So I think you should feel safe talking to her, but you have to be really gentle about it. And know that like she would have strong opinions about why she hasn't shaved or why she decided not to get the Brazilian anymore. But I think if you make sure that you're very complimentary of her when you're going down in her like, whatever it is make sure you're always telling her how beautiful she is how trapped into our door. And then I think you could bring it up and say, you know, I feel like when I go down you, and there's no hair there. I could really turn you on more or it feels really good on my tongue. Is that something you might be open to? Would you wanna go grooming? You could offer this you'd be like, I could get you a gift certificate or you could say, let's let's take a shower guys could shave each other. You could groom each other. That's really hot thing to do as well. So I would just feel it out. Like, I said, maybe this is a few time conversation. Maybe when you're going down on her you, let her know like, I make sure she knows how beautiful you think. She isn't. Then you could just say another time. You know, what I know? You haven't been shaving it down there. I feel a little bit of difference. Would you be open to that? Again. You know, I love you think you're great. And then see what she says to that. So I think again, we just have to all be really delicate in and careful in these conversations, but as long as she knows that you love her, and it just makes things easier and makes things more satisfying for both Lou she might be open to get in those hairs ripped out. Again, it's painful, I'm telling you, and it's another frigging thing. But I understand your predicament. So just feel it out take some time and see how it goes in the conversation. Okay. This next one is from sin Geeta, who's thirty in Washington DC. Hello, emily. I got into a fight with this guy over sexting. He told me he really liked these panties. I wore one time. And then I told him they didn't fit me anymore. I tried them on. They actually did. I sent him a text thing they fit and he wanted a picture me wearing them. I told them I didn't feel comfortable sending a picture another time. I told him while I'm sitting in bed wearing nothing but a towel. So what would he do to me? If he was here. He then said can't say until you send me a picture. I told him I wasn't comfortable. He then got mad and said nice Bod, but zero confidence I also had sent him a website where I buy all my laundry from he then asked me for a laundry picture of me. I told him owes uncomfortable. He then started being mean when I called him out. He said, I deserve it. He went on to insult me saying, I lack common sense that I'm an idiot, and that I don't deserve an ounce of respect help. Oh, God saying Sangita, please. Just hate this participant number like delete is number block him. Here's a reality. Check. This is not. Guy. This isn't a guy who is someone that you or anyone I know should be with. He is manipulating you to get a picture and making you feel bad that he's not getting it is way. Like like, oh, you're an idiot or you've zero confidence and an oh God, you deserve it. It'd be this. Listen, I don't know. Maybe you guys had great sacks. And you're really attracted to him. But you do not deserve to be treated this way. At all. And this is I hope that for anyone listening that this is a very common tactic like to show. It's me your so hotter. Everyone else does or whatever. But I just feel like I love that. You're saying, no. And you're holding your ground, and I'm going to beg you to keep doing that. With whoever you date, and you're going to see that there's going to be plenty guys that you're with that are gonna be that's cool. I can't wait to see the real thing in person and of story. But even if this was just over something light. And he's saying these things to you for guy said to me to one time just one tax, misgiving example. Nice Bod but zero confidence or made me feel bad at all in a text. I would be done. Like, you do not deserve to be treated that way. And the faster that you can move past guys that make you feel bad for things like this. That are just ridiculous. I mean, I'm not a fan of setting naked pictures to people. I mean, if you're in a long term relationship, and you trust the person I understand, but some guy who's manipulated you. And you're just trying to be sexy. You're like let sex and he's like give me a picture. I so he could use it on his own in probably show. He's the kind of guy that would get that photo and turn to his friends, which is what a lot of people. Do I've been that girlfriend? When a guy guy friend gets a photo. He's like, hey, look, and my girlfriend's do the same thing with dick pic, so I'm just telling you, you did the right thing. Stick to your guns. This isn't your guy block is number. And you learn a great lesson as we all have. Yeah. That guy he's done him. He's done fate. But she's probably been with assholes or something and thinks like something like that. But I mean. She's even the fact she's trying to send sexy text on her own good for her for sending sexy tax for you for being sexy. Yes. Yes. Be all sexy with him with other guys. But don't send naked picks if you're not comfortable standard ground. I like the word sexy. I just made it up. I know like you use it XT. Okay. This next one is from Cassie who's forty seven in North Carolina. I'm dating a man who's in his early fifties. And he has amazing stamina. But never comes. He told me he needs lots of pressure. And I am too naturally lubricated. He suggested anal which I'm open to. But I wanted to be able to come during regular intercourse to are there any products or sexual positions suggestions as a woman. It's kind of a disappointment. When a man doesn't orgasm, and you have several times, I spent thirty minutes giving him head this morning, Amazon Zhang, his prostate and still no orgasm could his stamina. Really be that good. Or is it something else? Please help me make my man orgasm daily. Alright cassie. So here's the deal. It sounds to me like he probably has delayed ejaculation. What does that mean? Well, it's guy who takes thirty minutes or longer to orgasm during any sex play with a partner and a lot of times it can take like an hour hour and a half. And believe me, I found this out the hard way to dating someone years ago. And I didn't know I was like come on. I gave blow jobs. Like do this. I'm good bed. It's forever. And finally out of friend who datum she goes riot. He takes forever to orgasm. I was like oh my God. It's a thing. And then I now I know that delayed ejaculation is actually really common in men, but not as communist premature ejaculation, and the exact causes are unknown. But has nothing I'm gonna just go on limb here and say it has nothing to do with lubrication. You're that you're to lubricated has nothing to do with you only giving him head for thirty minutes. I'm sure you're great at that too. If you like this guy sounds like you, do you got to go back and say has always been a thing. Does it often take you longer to orgasm? What could we do together to help? You orgasm more frequently. How long does it take him during masturbation because I have a hunch. This has been happening probably his whole life, and he just isn't comfortable talking about it things. It's going to change. I mean, if you want to try easily, you can I get it that might help because it's taboo, and yet maybe it's a little tighter. The other thing about delayed ejaculation a little trickier to understand anti. Treat them premature ejaculation because the causes are largely unknown. Like, it could be something, psychological. Could be the way they masturbated younger. He might masturbate a lot and the pressure that he uses when he masturbated like the way he does it. He might be an avid masturbaters, and it just on he's unable to orgasm during intercourse or with the blow job. So I think in a really loving way. You've been listening to the show outside the bedroom. Just say, you know, I'd love to be able to to make you come during intercourse. I'm getting mind. What could we do? Tell me your pattern. You know, has it happened to in the past if so how because I don't like him saying about you being to lubricated because to be honest. Yes. So we'll get really lubricated. He just a towel by the bed, and you get up and you wipe your wipe yourself down and you get back on top of them. So I doubt. That's the reason why he's not and game a blowjob for thirty minutes and massaging his prostate. So for many men that gets them there. So this is something where you just got to find out more mation before you get like lockjaw, and even more frustrated this last one comes to us from reach. Who's twenty five in Vancouver? Hi, emily. I'm a new listener. And honestly aunt in love with your podcast, my sex life is better than ever with everything. I've learned from you. My only problem now is my boyfriend is dead set on not having sex while I'm on my period. It was never an issue until one night. He is going down on me, not realizing that I had just started my period, we were both mortified I understand where he's coming from. But it gets super horny. When I I start my period. I just wanna get them any advice for situation like this. Thanks so much. Hey, rachel. Thanks so much for Email them. So glad you're in love with the podcast. And then it's help you. Okay. Here's the thing about periods sex. So it's a case by case basis like some women like it. Some don't some men like it some, you know, don't. So here's what we have to do if you really desire sex horny before your period or on your period. Like a lot of women. Do I think he just going to be matter of talking to him about it sounds like you don't really care if he goes down, and you it's more about the intercourse. So you've a few options for me the first day when I'm really heavy. You don't flow I don't necessarily want to have sex. But maybe a few days in he would be comfortable or he would be more comfortable, but also want you guys take shower you could have shower sex. You could put some towels down you could tell him that feels really good for you. And you'll be sure to like you guys can take a hot shower after. So I feel like it's a matter of letting him know how much turned you on and that it won't include oral if he's not down with that. I do understand that. And just see if there's a work around. Maybe he's a little shocked by you know, from the first time it happened. But I think that there's ways to massage this. So he's going to be comfortable with it. And also, I don't think you should be mortified when you set your mortified, let me tell you something. I think that every woman in men, listen this, but especially women I had to talk to the friend about this other night, she had sex with someone for the first time in hotel room. And she's like, oh my God. It was bloody everywhere. The guy was like, that's cool. You know? It's like it happens. We're not doing it on purpose. We don't know when it's going to start sometimes are flow. And I don't think it's anything to be mortified about we are bleeding once a month. So we can carry on the human race we can give birth like he wouldn't be a Roland in bleeds. All. Saying is there has to be a little more understanding a little more little more calming down around the blood like it's going gonna hurt anybody. I understood the messy part of it. But let's like, you know, learn to work around with deal with it like women bleed. So what take care of it, you some towels take a shower and be honest with them. I'm sure he wants to please you and find a way to make this work. All right. Thanks, rachel. Thanks, jamie. Thank you. Everybody for listening. I love you, all your awesome. And thanks to my amazing team, Ken, Michelle producer, Jamie. And Michael was a good for you Email me feedback at sex with Emily dot com. If you've learned anything for me from listening to this show variety is the spice your sex life needs. So that's where I come in. I know it can be overwhelming because I talk about so many toys and products and tips all the time that knowing where to start is an easy to I'm excited because I've tuned up with good vibrations to bring you might all new subscription box. That has a selection of products a ham picked just for you. 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"Welcome back to this week in video games, and this is the news roundup giving you all the latest video game news you need to know in just ten minutes. So if you find this useful and don't forget to like, Shannon, subscribe on Youtube any favorite podcast APPs links down below in the description or the show notes says the Twenty Fourth of September Twenty Twenty said, let's get into the news. I up in the news this week mark soft bind the PFISTER and CINEMAX has seven point five billion. This one comes from Tom Phillips Arafura. Gamer. Monumental acquisition that shakes up the gaming landscape monks offers announced. It's going to acquire the next media parent company, of Bethesda, its software. Studios Machine Games Tango Gameworks and more for seven point five billion dollars list of game franchises. Now part the xbox family makes for astonishing reading includes the elder scrolls fallout do dishonored Wolfenstein pray rage the eve within quake and the upcoming Stanfield Xbox boss Phil Spencer welcomed the long list of MEK, studios and franchises to experts on family expo studios in a blog post where you mentioned briefly the subject of exclusivity. As one of the largest most critically acclaimed privately game developers and publishers in the World Spencer. Them. Is An incredibly talented group in two thousand and three hundred people worldwide who make up some of the most accomplished crave studios in our industry cross. Pathetic software says the game studios it's of whereas innomax online studios Arcane, Machine Games Tango game worked Alpha Dog, and roundhouse studios. These teams are responsible for franchises like the elder scrolls fool out. Wolfenstein. Doom dishonored prey quake stanfield, and many more. Spencer stop saying. Feature. Games will be exclusive. You said he was looking forward to the company's array of upcoming Games logging on PC and xbox consoles things that has me most excited to sing the Roman with Bethesda future gangs some and many more unannounced to expos console and PC said including star failed the highly anticipated new space epic currently in development by the third game studios. However mark soft has confirmed the all new Bethesda Cinemax Greens join ex post game console on PC whether they come to playstation five or not. The suggestion here is clear. These games being looted launch on xbox game pause who would like to be seventy dollars a pop if they turn up on the PS fine. We share deeply from the fundamental power of games in their ability to connect in power and bring joy. And a belief that we should bring that to everyone regardless of who you are, we live or what your plan regardless in the screen signs that control or even your ability to use one. But there's this taught how it said in a statement. We can't think of a group of people to do that with the xbox friendships that go back those original days from filled with senior leaders to develop poor and just talk about putting players I a passionately living when asked what the acquisition news meant for forthcoming playstation five-time exclusive death loop may arcane and goes why Tokyo maybe Tango Game Works Professor was not able to provide any more details. Next, in the news, due maternal is coming to expos gain pass. This one comes from CASS. Marshall from Polygon do maternal is heading to experts gain pass, which makes it very good shooter able for a fairly low fee amongst the announcement rice official blog on Thursday and do maternal will be included in the subscription for console style tub the first and additionally become available experts came pass for peace before the twenty twenty follow up the two thousand, sixteen relaunch of. Do maternal brings with slam with a Louis heavy armor and half weapons. Players have to start killing demons again, which is what the slide does best and the campaign goes to Earth Mars and hell in the pursuit of finding the demons and then you guess dipped. Them. Also. Has A multiplayer component which sets up an asymmetrical match between variously powerful minibus demons and a sly the DLC pack for the campaign negligent is on route which would expand the single player experience. Next up in the news Mike's has more studio acquisitions on the way out just under show at GS. This one comes Miliana Rupa of game informer. Soft. Shook the gaming world earlier this week when the company revealed spend seven point five billion dollars to acquire cinemax and all of its properties with an impressive lineup of acquisitions already under his belt. See Setia in the diller that Microsoft is far from done. Don't just expect any announcements at this year's Tokyo gameshow. CINEMAX is the parent company to some major studios including its software arcane in Bethesda. This was a huge move for the company at large has studios joined the ranks of previous acquisitions announced prior for those excited to see marks off putting themselves into a position for more exclusives for a very least more resources, the dental confirmed to scenic that more acquisitions certainly goal. He can't wake up one day and say, let me build a game studio. The idea of having content is so we can reach larger communities xbox head Phil Spencer added content is just the incredible ingredient. Our platform that we continue to invest in this doubles the size of our creative organization. After this week's big reveal many were wondering if marks of press conference, the upcoming Tokyo game show would hold any more surprises. Let that breath out because they only be making any power moves, there has confirmed in it post. Next, up in the news experts, exiles skyrocket as preorder Expert Series Exco live. Again, this one's from Liana. Rupa have came in former since September, twenty second marks day the experts series x. pre-ordered went live also marks the day xbox one sales sort dramatic increase instance maybe or it could be hilariously unfortunate misunderstanding post from Andrew Alerts has gone viral on twitter and Industry and signed with specialty tracking trends and of Nintendo deal then is tweet cited drastic spike in Amazon Expo. System sales with associated tagline asking how many people born experts. Instead of an xbox series x the system are undeniably similar and there's a few possible reasons why these sales might happened I reason could be simple era with the two names. Of parents were attempting to behind these consoles to their kids and law frantic quick vise also happened to be that taunting of sold out message for could simply be a lot of people when the next best thing before next Gen arrives, we don't certain what the reason was behind. The recent sales increased by seven four, seven percentage markup doesn't seem like a simple coincidence being on the same day as next-gen pre orders. Still, if people mistakenly purchasing the experts one x over the series x t to a similar name, it's going to be quite a few upset people over the next week or so one thing that we do know is that the theory that people. Purchase the one x thinking that was a series x is the biggest social media take right now with speculation is producing pre hilarious reactions over the twitter sphere and other ability to revolves around bots. So box purchasing on demand items are friendly common and often used by those who intend to resupply much higher price is possible that the box may have gotten. The code confused a point that was made in response to journalist Patrick Clinics. Recent tweet about the sales increase it's important to keep in mind that next-gen arrived was always boost current and Sauers oftentimes because of heavy discounts or simply the desire to get in on the hype a lower price point whether this. is a happy coincidence or mistake remains to be seen, but we wouldn't be surprised to save a large chunk of that number ended up being the latter and finally in the news today among us to has been canceled as devs focus on the original title. This one comes from emigrant of your game. At this point, I releasing back in two thousand, eighteen social deduction game among us as recently in the huge surging popularity with steam concurrence increasing from a peak of two hundred seventy, one place in January two, three, hundred, Eighty, eight, thousand in the last thirty days and according to the developer in a sloth by game weasley he a concurrent player can of one point five, million across all platforms Saddam's. Is Little surprised at the DEB's no longer divide the play base for the sequel as explain our blog post developer in the slot have plenty of internal debates over the future of among us, particularly given the original games, Kobe's outdated and not bill to support new continue to the influx of new players. However, the team decided to focus all their efforts. On supporting the carnage game and taking it to the next level. So among us to has been canceled, all of the content that we had planned for among us to instead go into among us in the sloth said, this is probably the more difficult choice because it means we're going to go deep into the core code as game and reworking several positive. Things plan ric cited to bring new content everyone. As you continue to enjoy playing current players can hopefully expect to see some improvements service as inner love is working hard to figure out some of the existing issues. colorblind support is also inbound. The team had to put off for far too long is probably much needed addition given. So much of the game is based in player colors on top of this, there are plans in place for friends and account systems, which we know take some time to develop along with the brand new stage themed around. Henry. Steedman another series published by in. Sloth. At this point, you may be asking why the sudden increase in interest the main reason appears to be that several content creators such as Soda Pop in Cody Carson and Polka mine suddenly started playing among us on twitch earlier this summer exposing the game to a large audience in this lost most recent release the Henry Stigma collection was also launched back in August two or more attention to the studio's work with the cancellation of among us to I guess the team once again, be sticking to the stuff they know. 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035: Peacock Details Revealed

The Streaming Wars

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035: Peacock Details Revealed

"You're listening to the Stream was the podcast that discusses all the latest happenings regarding your favorite streaming services. Find out which service is winning the war this time around. Welcome to episode of this remorse on Dustin twentieth with me and we are here to discuss all of the service related news from the past week. which would be in in fact January fourteenth through the twentieth? We have a pretty big discussion later on. We're going to talk about the reveal of what peacock is and what you can expect from the service risk because that reveal happened last Thursday investor meeting held by NBC. which I watched the entire two hours game? I feel like this. This is just a a continuous thing where they keep having these massively long investor meetings reveal these streaming services and of course. I'm watching him. I'm GonNa Discuss what I saw. What the highs and lows were? We're from the service itself. We're GonNa talk about that later. But in the meantime we do have a couple of different news things to discover discussed because the TCI's have wrapped up now and there was a number of things that have been announced during an an as part of the TCI's there's also some more content news related to Hulu and Apple TV which we'll talk about Later this week will release her content episode. But right now we're going to cover the other stuff. The stuff that pertains to services itself and first up we have love CBS. All access has announced that they've gained yet another two million subscribers over the past twelve months that puts them at we estimate about ten million subscribers at this point specifically because they said last February that they were at eight million to ten million. That's what you would assume there at however it could be a little with higher because he also said that they're still on track to get to twenty five million subscribers by two thousand twenty two which is odd because that means they'd have to get fifteen million and more subscribers within the next two years and that's not undoable by any means obviously we've seen Disney ramp up a lot and a lot of subscribers right out the gate. CVS Alexis however in. There's going to be something. That's going to prompt them to get that million subscribers in in such short amount of time if they only got two million in the last last year yeah I mean I think that's you know I think it's great. Growth is just at the same time like you said I mean. That's that's a little bit of multiple canoe growth. That is hard hard to is going to be hard to reach but I think it the only way to reach it is through great content. And I don't know about you but I saw the news trailer for that card series man man does it look good. I don't even like Star Trek and so I think that if they focus on the content with their backlog library inge's slowly and surely hits this numbers I think that's the only way they can grow. I think it's aggressive growth but I think there is like realistic growth for Your Business and then. I think that there's some things that you just say to make Wall Street happy and into the usually always over estimate growth. It just seems like they tend to overestimate what's actually going to happen. And kinda pretty from there. I mean right now. The economy's doing well especially United States. And so I mean it's there's a little bit of concerns but for the most part it's doing well and people have that disposable cash to get these streaming services and so like as long as you know people have the disposable cash and as long as you kind of creek a content. You can dream a little bit can I think. CBS's dreaming big. I think that they are going to grow in. They'RE GONNA go are allied and they're GONNA become a pretty decently sized player but at the same time. That's that's that's a big growth to to Kinda hit so you know just a little bit worried I think that for them to definitely get to the next step the partnerships in already integrate themselves with the NFL NCWA instrument sports. But you know I think that if they even more more so focused on getting the sports content in even more sports rights through the partnerships in the ad like you know paramount. I think that's kind of the only way they can hit those aggressive numbers. I think they're going to come underneath. Oh those numbers by that time. But I don't think they're going to be closer to hitting that mark than not hitting the mark if you know what I mean. I mean honestly the the the thing that concerns me is that the fact that they said that they still believe they're on incredible growth path and they're still on target to reach twenty five million subscribers from CBS Alexis and showtime. By twenty twenty. Two but I just don't see how they're seeing that if they're saying hey. In the last year we've added two million subscribers have two years left afterward definitely GonNa hit that goal of twenty five million. I just it's questionable. We'll have to wait and see. Maybe they've got something up their sleeves. Nobody's nobody's seen at this point all right next up Oscar. Nominations have been announced the headline here. Is that Netflix. Actually had the highest number of Oscar nominations out of all the distributors and they ended up having twenty four compared to fifteen in two thousand nineteen not a whole lot of surprises here on C.. This this deals more with our we enjoy but joker was the film that had the most nominations of all films yet. That doesn't surprise me at all right so the next thing is while we've we've been constantly really following this the NFL Sunday ticket is. There's some new rumors that look like UTV could be potentially interested or at least taking over or taking over or potentially interested interested in the NFL Sunday ticket. I'm not real. I don't want to get onto the rumor part of it because honestly the room apart is far stretched by itself. More of the fact that it's Clearly is is extremely clear at this point that there is a lot of do you will. We wouldn't be hearing as much talk about the. NFL Sunday ticket leaving gene direct TV. And going somewhere else if it wasn't for the fact that it was actually happening because there's been a lot of talk about this so it's just something that we just need to keep an eye on for now and we'll keep bringing up as we hear more and more things we've heard other places that are potentially interesting. We've talked about some of that Youtube. TV is not somebody that we were even thinking about at the time. If only for the fact that it's outside the realm of one of these streaming services which is what we've been assuming with the the big Talker we've talked about in the past Amazon prime video potentially being a big player for this this because they have a service but a one of these other streaming services that are focused more on the live TV element like Youtube. TV or Fubu TV or even who live TV. One of those wasn't even a player that we were thinking about at the time so it is something just to consider that it does go outside the realm of just just the main streaming services that were were constantly talking about the most important part of this article is in so much you to TV. I mean I think that there is some them truth in rumors and I think that obviously I believe that they're gonNA shop around. NFL Sunday ticket. Use Your TV. Why them I guess but if they're looking to ship off infiltrated ticket to the highest bidder this is once again just good for fruit for the next stage of growth? It's going to have to be young to introduce something new right. We're talking about original content. It's great the backlog but your need other type of event based in content. That's going to draw in people in especially for a long time in the NFL NFL. All sixteen game regular season Games plus the playoffs in sports. I think is going to be the next step and it's going to be next rush for the bigger players for the niche players on necessarily know the bigger players. That's GonNa be a big grab and I think it's interesting how you know the NFL's looking back at the situation in okay like if if if it is a good idea they can basically auctioned off the rights to Nfl Sunday ticket and other you know potential NFL conto. They want to create essentially like have an auction for the NFL writes streaming rights in some form bid give auction to the highest bidder. And see where that goes in. That's what I'm interested in because it's okay like if if you get the Premier League NFL WHAT ABOUT NBA. What about golf? What about baseball? MLB and stuff like that. So that's to me. The interesting part is a future future a future of sports rights in the streaming age to meet. That's the interesting part about this article all right so next up from the TA's Amazon Studios was there and they had had some interesting comments regarding competition when it comes to Disney plus or apple TV plus or Netflix HBO or Peacock. They said that they are in in a different world. And they said we're in a different model because unlike the pure streaming video on demand players we are looking for Amazon prime customers making sure we're delivering value. That's what we're looking for content drive subscriptions. We don't have to play as a substitute for a different type of service or compete in that way. Basically translated the gist list of this. Is that prime videos creating content that they can specifically keep their prime customers from you know the the the churn constantly hear about the services services having a create more and more content to reduce the churn rate that they have is first subscribers subscribing specifically for one show. This comes up with Netflix. All the time you get the big shows like stranger things people subscribed to stranger things but then they leave after. They've watched it because there's nothing else that they wanna see not that the net flicks isn't producing saint amount of content content. But that's the game that Netflix is currently planes that they are releasing an insane amount of content to ensure that people are not leaving the service. And unsubscribe gene from Netflix. Prime however is saying that they're not in that business of creating content to ensure that people Subscribe to the service. They're creating content and to add value to the overall prime subscription as a whole meaning the subscription that allows you to get the free shipping and the the faster shipping shipping in a variety of other prime benefits that you have from subscribing to Amazon prime. That's what they're looking for. They're not looking to compete in the sense of making sure that there's an insane. The amount of content nonstop like Netflix is doing because Netflix is just streaming video Amazon prime as a whole is much larger than just prime video so while they are focusing on creating content they're focusing more on the lines of creating quality content. That will drive. People to continue to subscribe to Amazon. Prime is a whole rather than just subscribing to prime video like they are with Netflix. And using it as a substitute service right and then a couple of new deals else have been reached a i. S T X films and Amazon prime is struck a major European output deal. meaning that all STI films will be appearing on prime video when it comes within the area of Europe. Who is ticks films? I mean before today. I didn't know who they are. They're distributed films. They create films most recently. Some of the films that their best known for would be hustlers or I feel pretty which was any shooter film. These they make a a variety of different films but they are not considered most of the films. That they make or not blockbusters by any means they're a newer player in the sense sense of they're not as big as obviously Sony Universal one of others Disney out into the nowhere near the size of them. But they do have mid budget star driven and movies that that's you know that people seek and are sought after hustlers was the biggest film recently which was made on a very very small budget legit into making a lot of money here. Domestically you answered. Why was important and get this? Why this thing because everyone knows about X. Techs I didn't know until like prepping for the show about who they were? I mean it's the film stuff but they also create stuff for television as well. Nothing that has that's been like super successful very big. But they do have absa things that they've they've produced for television as well. So that's that deal the other deal that's worth noting is that netflixing sky has inked a new multi year deal to continue to make netflixing afflicts content available sky subscribers. Now that's not to say that you can't you have to you. Get it for free like some of these other content deals that we've heard of this is more in the line. Line of sky like comcast is a cable provider in Europe and they basically will have the net flicks APP pre installed hold onto their DVR's which means when you search for a show. Netflix content will pop up. And if you have a subscription Netflix you can view it directly through the cable box. We talked about how important this is for achieving the ability to watch Netflix on these devices that that the older generation already has an increase needs less of an issue with them being having to go find new technology to actually watch the content that is available. So that's that one then. Netflix also announced that they have opened opened up a massive office in Paris. And they're looking to create some new partnerships and a have a huge slate of new content. That is coming from the French market as well. This isn't that big of a surprise edges again cements. The fact that Netflix understands. That's the International Market Arkadi. Very Big France is best known for having a very upscale fill market so Netflix is clearly trying to court the French market and say they look. We can try to prevent we we can. We can produce content that is very high quality to and can live up to the standards that you guys expect as as the French society. So that's the other deal. That was announced in the last couple earned the last week as well jumping over to there are two discussion points. The first one one is HBO metric again where Ta's and they talked about a variety of different things some of the highlights of what they've talked about which will specifically stick to the stuff it has to do with the streaming services and things like that but talking about the name they specifically said the reason why they ended up going with each Max name and not something like the. Wb Your Warner Oh brother was they felt like the warner brothers named by itself was not a well recognized brand by itself like Disney to be an entire umbrella company for the other sub brands and while. Hbo Max you know the HBO name is related to premium content. The price however is the concern earn and they said they're not as worried about people being concerned about the price of the service as they are about the fact that the HBO brand is very well known for creating quality content content. They don't want to dilute data in any way they also said that cinema or content is very unlikely to be brought over. Hbo Max even though Cinemark the Longer v creating original content on them by themselves. They talked about the audience network which was a network that. At and T.. Owned before the Warner media deal went through in before they became all in one company audience network work has a couple of shows a couple of very they just have a very select group of original shows for their network. Mr Mercedes is one of them. That's probably the best known one and Louder Milk Doc. Those shows were originally renewed. And now they are. They don't have a home because they're actually shutting down the audience network and turn it into an HBO. Max Preview you channel and that's what will be happening in the future with that. Why aren't they folding in cinemark content are just seem natural? That would make sense. They just said they don't have any plans. Plans to bring all of the cinemark content over cinemark has its fair share of original shows but to be honest. There's not a ton and I think the issue is that because they're sticking to their curated the Sensiti of what they're putting on the service having a cinemark what's like remember. We saw the interface and then we saw the boxes and boxes dealt with different brands and they had tbs TNT in DC Universe Sesame Street and you click on those boxes and you see the content. I don't think that cinemark has any shows that are extremely well known to the general audience to warrant a box cinemark and I think that's the the main issue I think the other problem is that our cinemax cinemark keep saying cinemark. CINEMAX is best known also in some circles skin amax and the idea of them having adult content at late late in the evenings and things like that. I don't think that they want that brand necessarily associated with HBO. Max Is my guess. Is that bats in the fact that there's not a ton of original content that they can bring over to to leave it as a brand and say like okay cinemark. This is the content we have and I think that's the main reasons as to why cinemax is not having all of their content. Come over to. Hbo Medics Women You can. You can just put it on like other channel artists like other content. Hbo Max is is just the fragmentation of the company and just like I get that they want human curated sounds cool. But I mean you know what they're gonNa do is having some. Ai Prediction they're just going to have a person. Just crunch numbers themselves. I mean it's just going to be basic statistics and like I don't understand the whole point of view. I mean like if you have a choice. But that's that's what's going to happen in a I don't understand why they have such a fragmentation in their library avary in why they just don't bring it all together and I get that they want these brands these channels and it's fine for the big players. Just you know more contents intense. Good why do you need to have this content looming around somewhere else like it because it's just not hard to judge services in the APP Yep not many people will use it but just surface not you. Don't you don't know what's going to happen. Meant to me is the most most annoying part is just the fragmentation of Warner brothers eighteen t h real. amax this design for them is I. Don't mind the price you know fifteen bucks. I don't mind these channels or the human curated. Whatever that means part is the fragmentation of all these different businesses? Because from it just doesn't logically make sense why you would separate all these different parts out of this here in this here in this are here like it just to I mean the Nonsensical my opinion. But I mean I get this do just I mean. Do you feel the same way. Just frustrated the fragmentation of all this so I am frustrated by it but I have a better understanding I can probably explain this just a tad bit better than I probably have. So outside of the fact of the CINEMAX thing I'm GonNa get away from that for a moment. I'm just GonNa talk about the fragmentation of the entire company that is one of media because there's a lot of it so here's the problem when you come to the streaming services as you've got specific content and I think as we talked about in the past were media as a company has been best known for licensing content elsewhere they create e-content they distribute the content but they will in most cases license the content to other networks other services and create content. We've talked about how paramount's and to a degree. CBS Viacom all now as one company paramount by themselves has been creating massive amount of content for a variety of different networks and services. They create shows Amazon Netflix. This is something that is a part of their main core of their business creating this content for businesses for other services or networks or channels in general wondering has is even bigger than that they. They've been creating content for practically every broadcast station that is currently on the air they create content for a number of other cable channels. That are not their own cable channels. They create shows for their own cable. Channels they create shed check they create shows for practically every streaming service out there outside of like Apple. TV Plus Disney plus. They create content at Netflix. Problem is that in order to jump one hundred percent and I've complained about this but I have a better understanding of this now based off of article that rex. We're GONNA talk about in relation to peacock in a minute here. The idea of trying to transition from the amount of money that you're getting per customer on average from producing content elsewhere swear to having just come from the streaming service. It's a big big big difference. See no I get that part under the brains that they own right and that point of like the companies that they own get the you know it's hard to bring in stuff that's licensed out to other places right but on of the stuff of the companies they own in the content that's made by them. Why don't they just bring that into? Hbo Max and Full those companies into you know this bigger version of as as a whole the stuff that they only. Why don't they bring them? So the simplest answer going back to cinemax is for example cinemax creates content for a premium channel. That's packaged with. HBO generally with Cable Cable Companies by taking all of that content and making available on each of your Max and no longer creating original content. Four cinemax there's no incentive for cable companies to package Pige cinemax with anything but then the entire idea of what cinemax is and the content that they can offer to cable companies by offering it as part of a package it it becomes useless. There's nothing there anymore for them to do. Because you're not going to subscribe to Cinemax Ana cables as part of a cable package or look at that as a benefit if you get all of that content on each Max. So that's the issue that I think the distinct problem with bringing all of the content directly over HBO. Max Outside of the things I mentioned earlier is that it. It basically makes the channel pointless and it is no longer a real premium channel that cable companies can actually use as an incentive to make their packages better. And I think that's part of the problem. The other thing is like when you look at we look at some of the other content that you have Ah I don't understand what you're saying like. Why don't you bring all this stuff in peacock? Just announced their line up of a bunch of content and there was a couple of shows that they have licensed from Worm E. Yeah they're gonNA appear there I think thing is HBO. Max is walking the line of how much content we really need to have how much content can really be successful in their service. Their numbers of The like they've said about ten thousand hours of content will be available on. Hbo Max when it launches and obviously that number will will grow over time but the thing is they have probably fifty thousand hours of content within the entire Warner media brand. I think their concern is that if they have have all this content there they could be licensing elsewhere. They could be getting money for it while some of the content isn't going to be it's not it's best use isn't on service so I think the problem is that they're trying to juggle a lot of different business models and HBO. Max what a a Lotta people assumed. There's going to be the GO-TO for all the warm media stuff by Disney's doing like CVs all access and paramount will eventually be like NBC. Universal is doing with peacock. They can't do that because they have to figure out a way of juggling this to make the most sense and to not just basically hold all their cards on the table like Disney does because let's be Real Disney Disney has done that for a long time and have held the chips for a long time. That deal that they did with Netflix. Was a big big deal but ultimately as long as they make back that money that they had for for that one dealer Fine Disney isn't like licensing a ton of content all over the place like some of these other companies like paramount or wore media is so I think that's what it's coming. It's coming coming down to is the fact that ultimately there's just not a lot of options for them to jump all in all right away I guess I might add a net benefit. There's no net negative. You know what I mean I I see that and I I agree wholeheartedly with is there's no negative. Why not do it and I agree with that? I think that ultimately it comes down to the same argument that I've had about all the shows that they have on DC universe or boomerang why not just fold those into the service and allow those other services either be less expensive because you're offering the same content and then people who can't afford a fifteen dollars service will subscribe to the four dollar a month service like boomerang than didn't just have cartoons yet not understand that as a you know a soft intro. I think there's an interesting point about the article discussing how they're going to strategize with right the DC universe in some of these other shows diversity created and how they're discussing you know how that all that is you know. Kevin Reilly discussed a little bit in the interview of how they might look at that. And how you know with with with the D. C. You originals on the air early on that platform before dropping. Hbo Max and so it's it's it's I think they're trying to toe the line between the two of how that works but once again I guess you can't. You can't have two things you can't. You can't be in both business models roles in do you know the mile as they could be. I guess my thing is it's like it's going to be so expensive to have to infrastructure. Set up you know doing the same thing twice. It's just not cost cost-effective is doesn't it's not logical and trying to come up with a strategy to appease the D. C. You people and Each Max people by by letting one release a day earlier than the other I mean how much benefit is that like seriously how much benefit is to get titans one day earlier on. Du and then get a day later on HBO. It's not about the idea of what's benefits. They don't WanNa they don't WanNa hurt their existing subscriber base. It's not paying fifteen dollars like I follow them in the Apple. There's a problem with grandfathering. Somebody's paying eight dollars a month of somebody's paying fifteen dollars a month. There's no way to do that. Just think of it as like a trial basis like I mean I get that epochs a month in fifteen bucks a month like you're essentially losing half the value you know just roll them in and then the next time that they have to Redo it. Just Nina Him For were they are now. They don't pay any more. But when this description you know ends in the year then have them re up at the fifteen dollar price Nica. Hbo Max but right now just grandfathered their demand at that price. They're so worried about losing people than just you know grandfather them until the next time the three up. We'll have to wait and see what happens. I think the problem is that ultimately. They've got so many different things that need to get consolidated and it's only a matter of time. I honestly think that what's going to end up happening. Is this universe by itself is probably going to live on. But it's going to dramatically and it already kind of is there. It's going to radically shift from the focus of original content over to the focus of the comics and the community which is what they've been doing for the last roughly about a year because they added the mass of back catalogue of Comics available on the service and that was just about a year ago and I think that there are transitioning listening to focusing more on that I think the content is going to be second hand and I think a lot of the content is gonNA eventually move over to. Hbo Max and it'll be there and the content will still be there in DC. Universe will allow the service to kind of lower price point and offer something you know that people wants as far ars the comics because there is an audience that wants just the comics and doesn't really care about the originals as much but then it also can allow them to have it. The services work along inside each other without really disrupting service. You're not gonNA roll. DC Universe into each max and keep the comics part of it for HBO Max. It doesn't doesn't make sense for the the model of what they're trying to accomplish with each mex but you can't have the service by itself just comics because that's not what the service was originally and that would that would danger the amount of people that are actually using it now. I can honestly tell you that. I'm not sure there'd be a lot of people would be that concerned about seeing something the next day I really don't I mean honestly the DC Universe universe original show star girl is going to be premiering on the APP the next day it will be on on CW and nobody's really raising any complaints about that but that was how they ended up having to do it in order to make sure that they could warrant the cost of the show. And I mean. I think that's what's going to end up happening with a lot of the other shows. They've got the Harley Quinn series which has not been announced that it's been renewed for the second season yet but it has gotten decent reviews. Titans season honoree titans could easily shift over. Its they'll run into issues when they do the international roll out because titans is one of the shows that has an international licensing deal with Netflix. But outside of titans none of the other shows have that same deal so. I don't think that it's going to be that hard to do that. And it will be a matter of time I mean the other part of it is. Hbo Max has to also have some things that they can roll into the service leader on to expand the amount of stuff we know over time. There's going to be content that will become available. That's they will want to have on the service. The the the perfect example. The other part in this article is talking about the Harry Potter stuff. All the Harry Potter films the fantastic beasts all those films are locked up in a deal over at NBC. Universal there are some articles online that portray that as warner brothers super pissed about the idea that their contents locked up over there. That's not true at all. They're not pissed talk about that. It was a lucrative deal for warner brothers. And it's a massive Lee big deal because they have the Harry Potter stuff in the Universal Parks which brings an entirely large amount of merchandising revenue into Warner media so the reality of it is yeah sure would like to have everything they own on the service you bet they they would but they also acknowledged that they have to gradually transition and while the early days of HBO. Max are going to be a huge transitional thing. Just like doc any service I mean like you look at this universe and the opening six months of that service compared to what it is now is vastly different. I mean they. They've got to slowly and gradually each each transition over to the new version of what they're doing and that's what I think. HBO maxes that's why the vibe element the ad-supported subscription plan that they have have planned for twenty twenty one for each BMX. That's going to lower the price point significantly. Probably I'm guessing to about ten bucks per month and if that's the case it opens up the doors for people who don't want to pay fifteen but also gets the people who are maybe pain only five dollars for boomerang or four dollars for boomerang per month to the jump up because they get a lot more content or the people who are subscribing a DC universe for the original shows and as it has the comics for benefit pay an extra the two bucks per month and they get all this extra content. I think that's what's going to end up happening. It's just right now. It's a transitional situation because their business model well as a company is so been been so ingrained in the idea of licensing content everywhere. They're trying to figure out. Well how do we get this content to be back where it needs is to be without losing significant amount of money in a short period of time all right so peacock news so since you watched the investor investor part You know I'm GonNa play the audience part. I don't have the luxury like you do in the patients to to watch all these investor things. So what were your initial thoughts about this. No do the reveal in the investor summit. I talked about this last episode because we recorded right before my predictions were there is going to be three three different tiers. They were going to have a variety of different content. And the only thing I wasn't sure on was the price points and basically peacock is going to roll out and have three retailers one is going to be a completely supported Tear the the bottom tier. which would be free? You can watch whenever you want. There will be ads in our space space between. It'll actually have the ability to watch live television as well as far but it'll be add supports was basically like broadcasting stuff that you'll be able to zeon their channels as is with ads inner city inner intertwined with the content itself. They will have a five dollar tear which will be also ad-supported but it will allow you to have about fifteen thousand hours of content available on demand whenever you want so that means you'll be able to watch shows shows like the office parks and REC. You'll be able to watch those but with ads but you'll be able to access all that content. Then they will also have a ten dollar tear which will be completely ad free and other than it being free. There's nothing there's nothing additional that you'll get it just gets rid of the ads completely so it's very similar to what's the plus us on the bottom on on the you know I get the middle the five dollar and ten dollars till I'd tears like that makes sense to me but what are we. What are we actually getting? I five dollars. I mean for that free tier so the free. We don't get bad backlogged. Like what are we getting for the frontier so the free teary. There is some content yield gets they said there's about seventy five hundred dollars worth of content. That will be available on that free tier and it's still on demand and things like that the differences you just don't get as much content and and you won't get any of the original series but you'll get a variety of content it's limited on how much contact you actually get. She'll be able to watch the live stuff you'll be able to watch. Recently half of the on-demand content that they have no premium original shows that they have. And that's what you get for free if you want the original content and you want the extra basically double the amount of content that you get you have to pay five dollars per month. The other catch of course. Is that if you are a comcast table subscriber or a comcast internet subscriber. You will be able to get the five dollars tier for free because it will be worked into your comcast A subscription you. Don't have to pay anything for it. This as a comcast subscriber you will get the five dollar ad tear for free or you can pay five dollars and get the premium top tier ad free version for free as well. So that's the catch. The other part is while they've been touting for quite some time that they we'll be launching in April turns out that was only part of the truth which is their launch in April exclusively for comcast subscribers so. If you are a comcast subscriber you'll be able to get peacock right away but it will only be on demand stuff. None of the original stuff is launching until after the Olympics in the summer the new shows. That is the the that they've been talking about like the by the bell or the Punky brewster these different shows that we've popped up in the popped up in our content news discussions. None of those shows are GonNa be available until well after the Olympics because they're really launching nationwide the week before the Olympics and they're going to use the Olympics as basically they're launching point for a lot of content and showcasing a lot of the stuff that you'd see elsewhere but then they'll also have exclusive shows like a different wrap up Olympic shows in initially initially when they when they launched so April fifteenth is. If is the launch date if you're a comcast subscribers which will allow you to see the on demand library the Launched each will be for for the national roll out to actually be July fifteenth. So when I when I told you this you were like Oh. So it's like a Beta launch and I was like yeah pretty much because is it comes across as it's coming out three months earlier for everybody else for the comcast subscribers but there's no original content you can't you're not nobody he's going to be paying for the service. Initially when I launches but I guess he gets some people to talk about it. Get people hyped about it and prompts them to potentially attention subscribe. Come on come July. Are you happy with the offerings. You know like at in comparison to its rivals. You know ten dollar for a premium tier with no ads. Yes I think is. I think it's in the middle of the road you know if you're GONNA do. An average is definitely middle. You know it's going to be about the same as Amazon prime. I mean I know like a prime subscription is like a hundred career and so if you want to just focus just solely on the prime video part. I think it's a safe equation to say it's like you know ten bucks a month if you WANNA look at it so I mean ten bucks per month for getting all all the CBS content all access commercial-free. How do you feel about the price point? Are you happy. Had the opinion on honestly. I don't think it's a bad price wasted middle of the range obviously as expensive as HBO. Max or the top Tier Netflix. But the catch of courses that there was a lot of details that he didn't say they it didn't say whether or not the content was going to be available in four K.. At any of the tears they didn't say how many consecutive streams you can have at the same time or in their dreams. Is there ever element on like the four K.. Mart why I mean like thankfully. Does Netflix have a limit on the four K.. Part just trying to think of service where like like Netflix only allows the four care ultra hd at the top tier. You don't even get okay. An option on the bottom two tiers the standard or any other services that that deal with you know that four K. or ultra hd. You know part are they near the services that limit by picture quality of HD net flicks is the only one that I'm aware of I. I know for a fact that Disney plus made a big deal about how four K. was going to be included with the normal subscription because they were specifically calling out Netflix for separating separating the video quality between the tiers. I know prime video. I doesn't have tears and there's all if it's available and four K.. You'LL ABC's in four K. if you can So I mean like I'm trying to think of any other services that do that and it's really just netflixing. I'm aware of but the other thing of course is that when you comparatively HBO or you compare it to Disney. They only have one tier at this point. There's not multiple tiers. So that's the catch of courses. Netflix has has multiple tiers. The other services don't so they can charge more for other things. Obviously the the four K.. Or the ultra hd is is is only one aspect of that tear the other part of the tier. That's more important to a lot of people is the amount of users you can use at the time the top Tier Netflix tear. You can use up to I. I believe five at a time while the other services like Disney has I think four concurrent streams at a time. I don't they I I don't think they've revealed. HBO Hasn't revealed. There's so it's not so much about to me. It's not like I just want to know the nitty gritty can compare it to the other services. I don't know about concurrent streams if that will even be available on peacock I don't know about whether or not the stuff will be available in four day because that wasn't discussed so it's it's more of. Aw Okay so how do you compare it directly to something like Netflix. Is it as good. You can get a total number of hours of content. which they said is fifteen thousand which will put them higher than what? Hbo Max's offering which is amusing because HBO in one or media has a much larger catalogue of content as we were. We're just discussing so they're going to have more content than a service like HBO. Max which is going to cost more money but what else would you get as you know. What are what are what under the technical specifications of you know how the how you're leading even really focus honestly on the premium tier or say that it's going to be anything other other than just add free which is smart because obviously they're trying to promote the add version of what they're doing because that's where they're going to make a lot of money because they've got the advertisers who are already interested in the service they're also predicting between thirty million to thirty five million actors? Active users by twenty twenty four which puts them slightly below what each max is doing but they're also starting from the ground up because Hbo Max at least has that thirty million current subscribers that they already have they just have to basically basically gain an additional twenty million subscribers peacock basically has to start to grow up so comparably speaking the best thing I could compare this to is it feels feels like it is. CBS All access will. The price points are different depending on the tears but that of course the biggest differences that CBS all access doesn't have the free re free tier which allows just ad-supported. So that's of course the difference. The other part of this is that if you've got service peacock which has a large amount of content available for free. What does that do to other services that don't have as much content and we're does that leave them? You'll you'll good apple. TV plus while they're only charging five dollars a month and it's ad free if you offer something that's completely free. What would what are most people are going to choose? They're going to choose the free option with Ads Or are they going to choose the five dollar option that doesn't have nearly as much content. He look at Qube. WHO's getting off the ground and starting up? They're charging five dollars per month and they don't have the free version and you've got this other service that's that is going to have a free version so it leaves some other of these other streaming players in in question of well. How do they continue to compete? When there's somebody who's offering maybe not a an unlimited amount of content by means but how are are they gonna be competing with somebody who is who has the ability to sell? ADS has the ability to have a service that's supported by ads. Only and it leaves quickly in a unique position in my opinion. Do we know anything about innocent QUBE. Who learned a long time ago that the pretty much sold out their ads base very quickly we learn anything about you know Any advertising information out there that we know about so that we learned. Yeah so they did announce that they have a couple of launch sponsors. Some of them are a unilever targeting state farm but they do have They said that those companies they're just a launch sponsors are gonNA break in hundreds of millions of dollars of initial advertising revenue and. I honestly think that's the way they're advertising is going to work is more in line with what Youtube is. The way they described during the investor meeting is that the ads that they supply light will be more geared towards the user. Like you'll see on youtube because they use as an example but also stated that the because that's the other reason why if you offer the free version they'll still get that data that they desperately want in order to make the ads worth more money by being able to do more personalized adds to the the people who are watching the ad so if they have a free version somebody signs up for an account. You Watch ads build see what type of content you're watching. They can sell that information. Information directly to the advertisers will then create content to better market their stuff to you as the viewer of that content. So I think that's they're they're not limited in any way quals. qube has a very very set in stone amount of advertising space that they can sell because of the way they're doing they're they're adblocker adblocker. Basically you're an advertiser you're buying a block for at show. That ad will be there for that X.. Show the problem MS that long term. I'm not sure that we've talked about this. I think we just talked about this last week. The issue with that is that that model doesn't work long term because if you're building a library of content people will go back and watch that content. Will that advertisements still be relevant to that that ad you know a a year later. I don't know that it will be and I don't know based off of everything that they've said in the fact that there's a set amount of ad blocks they can sell a certainly does not feel as if quit libby has anything but a specific ad for specific show. And that is you know Ford for that episode of that's all it's going to be so peacock however based off everything that I saw. It seems like they're more in the lines of you're just buying an ad space. We're going to try to link up your ad with the person that makes the most sense very similar to the YouTube. Does it and honestly that's the more profitable method because they can keep selling ad space regardless of whether it's old content new content live content content on demand content. They can sell ad space all the time. It's I mean that's how some of these other services like who that has ads and CBS will access. Yes they have ads. They're not selling ad space for something specific. They're selling ad space for their service as a whole and that brings him away more money than a singular ads spot during a specific thing. It's like comparing you know you see when you watch the Super Bowl here in the United States you'll see these companies who will blow their entire advertising budget on one ad during the superbowl. But you'll never hear anything about the company at any other point during the year because that's where they they spend their money because they're trying to get to that one spot qube is essentially at least the way I'm interpreting what they've done they've SET UP THEIR AD blocks to be your sponsoring. You're you're you're you're a sponsor it's like the like the fifties where shows would be sponsored specifically by a product. It feels like that's the case with Qube because you're not going to see a ton of ads within a ten minute video. You're going to see a very short amount of ads. So you're essentially the sponsor of that and that's why it's a set amount of money that they can spend or they. They can sell to an advertiser so after I got done watching the investment I thought to myself well Peacock Mike has. It's definitely figured out. They've seen some of the other services that have already launched. They've kind of seen what works. What doesn't but really universal is in a unique position because they also have licensed a lot of their content elsewhere because they don't even have premium channel like warm media has HBO for Viacom had showtime? They don't we'll have a premium channel even out there to have this content to create additional content. They only have the blocks of programming that they have. They have more ability to have more programming programming that they had the they can produce and sell more ads space without really having to have a whole lot of infrastructure costs in in additional to what they already have so just kind of like see this all access will peacock be offering any sports related content. Because you have a partnership with the NFL being although that it's GONNA become over by in a few days because of the Super Bowl but For the future to talk about any like sports ideas yes so they talked about the Olympics. That was their our big focus. Obviously because the Olympics in general is big for NBC and all of its channels. They have they have three daily Olympic shows that they're going to be having they're also gonNA and a half more they're going to be livestream more than thousand hours of exclusive coverage from the Paralympics. They will have after the picture over. They'll have an Olympic channel so which will be like one of their live channels that you can just watch whenever you want which will feature a ton of other content related to the Olympics. They'll have original content showcasing the athletes preparing for the twenty twenty two winter Olympics. They also stated that they'll have premier league will have certain certain matches on the services. Well they said one hundred and forty matches that aren't available on television will be available on peacock and over for two thousand hours of coverage also stated that the Ryder Cup which is golf tournaments will be available in September so those are the things that they specifically announcement. I think that's because those are the the things that they've got locked up immediately for the summer and early fall. NFL IS GONNA be a question. Because I've actually. NBC has a deal with NFL TO STREAM GAMES NOT STREAM TO AIR Games on their broadcast channel. It'll be a question of whether or not those deals are locked up by the time the twenty the twenty season begins for the NFL to know whether or not that's actually GonNa happen but the only sports talk about where Olympics the Premier League and Gulf Wolf from a super skeptical peacock way back in the day this investor meeting answered a lot of questions for me and it made me feel pretty well. They also talked about how there's going to be a news news element to which a lot of people were not talking about ahead of time. which is that? They're going to have live breaking news coverage available on the service which is is not something. You're seeing allots elsewhere. CBS All access has a new element but a lot of the other services. Don't you know we know that each Max will have CNN content but not necessarily late breaking live breaking news coverage like we would see if we're actually to watch CNN on cable service and then they also talked about the universal films the exclusive streaming rights for the universal films will be available on peacock and that means basically it would be available for viewing on peacock if it was made by universal deal because they were previously had a deal with FX that lock their movies into slots for an extended amount of time. And they're they've decided that they're there are no longer going to do that. Because obviously signed their best interests. FX Is owned by Disney. And so they're not making as much money as they could if they were offering a lot of their their top tier films on their own service. So we'll talk more about some of the content announcements later in the week when we do our content so because there is a couple of different new shows were renounced. Yeah I mean there's there's a decent amount of content and obviously they've got the office and parks and REC at the end of twenty twenty which they focus very very heavily on the fact that the the office and parks and REC. We're going to be there. But of course they're not actually going to be there until the end of two thousand twenty early twenty twenty one when the Netflix deal runs out so while they're promoting it there's only limit on how much content they can actually offer on the service they can however offer clips and one of the things that they focused. Okay Stan when they were showcasing the interface of the services that the when you go to a show there'll be these playlists where you can just watch clips of certain things are basically like top ten lists things that you would typically find on youtube produced by NBC or universal. They'll have these things available on the services. Well so while you might not be able to watch the office immediately. When the service launches you'll be able to watch these clips of the top Jim Pranks Dwight moments? And things like that. Gotcha Gotcha so any final thoughts on peacock investor summit anything that you look forward to predictions and stuff like that overall. It was a it was actually one of the Better Bester showings that they've actually that any of these services have had. I thought the presentation was actually very well done. There wasn't a whole. They did a good job of answering a lot of questions just by the end of it when they did the quick. QNA at the end which was about fifth the last fifteen minutes of the presentation. There wasn't a lot of questions that were coming from the investors in the crowd that weren't answered or were very groundbreaking. While there was a bunch of comments coming from each MAC so I can honestly say they know what they're doing and they're very confident what they're doing and I think that it could be very success. The big thing is that they're going to be selling the ad space and that will help them raise money right away so while each max has to get over that hurdle of fifteen dollars per month their service however however is going to have some money coming in regardless because they'll have the ad supporting the ad supported version right away so there's that which is great for for them but I I think they can be very successful. I don't think the numbers are far fetched as far as thirty to thirty five million. I don't think they're too out there. I honestly think that if CBS ESOL access things that somehow they're going to get another fifteen million subscribers in the next two years then in four years peacock easily get thirty or thirty five million subscribers. We don't I think that's that's outside the realm of possibility in any way so there they did a great job. I mean to be fair three tiers and the way they explained it in some of the stuff I was like well it. It just feels like they're trying to do everything. They possibly can to make sure that they can get subscribers even if they're free subscribers but I think that they they explain it in a way where it it comes off as the. It's very well thought through. And it's it's a balanced way of making sure that it works for them and doesn't hurt any of their existing markets. They are currently making money in however when you compare it to somebody like HBO. Max which is it's not exactly the same service at all other than it's a streaming service you can see that they learned learned from the higher price point that that could be a burden for gaining subscribers out the gate by making sure that they have these lower tiers compared. Hbo Max which is now focusing more on we have a lot of content original content that will be available on the service the and that should warrant the higher price point. Think it'll be interesting. You see because I think a lot of people are going to be comparing peacock in. Hbo Max even though they aren't exactly the same beast right now but once HBO. Max has their ad supported version in two thousand twenty one could become very similar. And then it's GonNa come down to what does HBO. Max Offer for the higher price point compared to peacock when you're doing it because if HBO Max is Ad Supported version is ten dollars. As I as I suspect it will be compared to the five dollar option that peacock offers for that extra. I five dollars. Are you getting your your value out of that extra five dollars per month because you're not gonna be like as far as we know right now. There's no live news there's no live sports sports but NBC. We'll be offering that so can the amount of original content outweigh the fact that there isn't a news and sports element but it does cost more money so I think that peacock is in a unique position where they could see they can be very successful. Well I mean I'm happy about peacock talking as I said before I think investor Summit really answered a lot of questions And the articles you know coming out of it describing all the advancements and everything about it so I I feel better about peacock I think I think I like that. They're embracing ads. I like the five dollars tier with with you. Know getting the premium content but also having the ad-supported support as well. I think that that's going to be manageable by people. I don't think that's going to be too burdensome to get those shows I'm okay with the ten dollars here as being its upper price point probably would. I don't know if I was them. I'd probably put it to twelve although I like the zero five and ten just for me like symmetry point of view but you know I wouldn't mind if they bumped it up like two more dollars just to get their price for premium I can. I can see people paying twelve i. I wouldn't mind that from business perspective but from a you know obviously a user. Your Perspective Fried Lowers always better so overall. I feel a little bit about peacock in Nice to see that they have a direction for the future. All right so then to just round out the discussion. There is an article that that is in the show notes it's from CNBC talks about why wha-wha-what number is so important when it comes to peacock and why they're walking so lightly the industry mean intellectually is a little bit more of a a look at two as the reason. I talked about this a little bit earlier when we're talking each max but it has an R. E. basically talks about why it's so important to the streaming services to not hedge their entire hedge everything on the success of the streaming services because some of these other companies on like Disney are so linked into so many other businesses. You have a basically the number that's most relevant is the are Pu which riches the average revenue per user. You'll hear this in any investor conference or even some of the quarterly earnings reports. And things you always hear about our pool when it comes these streaming services but the ultimate number that they're always paying attention to his. How much revenue do you get per subscriber and the the reality of it is when you look at somebody like Netflix? Well there's three tiers. What's the average amount that of subscribers pain for their service? That's the are Pu when it comes to our poo for or a service that offers adds that number is more important because that means how many how how many ads are being watched. And how much money are you making per user off those those ads in addition to the subscription cost. Hbo Maxwell Look at our Poo and as a bigger company. At and T.. And they talked about this the are poof for a user is higher when it comes to the the them offering as something as an incentive for their mobile plans were their cable plans and things like that as an incentive to subscribe to these other things because then there goes up this article which I definitely suggest you read. If you're interested in a lot of the business side of this stuff it explains lanes why it's so important for these larger media companies that have been normally rooted in licensing their content elsewhere creating content for for their own cable channels not to completely cannibalize their cable channels and their channels the of these other things because this specifically they talk about how the basic cable networks like CNBC USA Bravo the Arpaio that they actually bring in is on average about six to seven seven dollars right now. So that's fine but when you factor in the sports and the live news and things like that it actually can go up to ten dollars for the cable channels which means the amount of bringing in through the street services actually lower so they have to figure out how to offset that by bringing in more users and selling more ads to to bring that number number up so it's an interesting look. I found the article really interesting because I follow the business side of this stuff a lot and why it makes the most sense because I constantly ask myself how does it make sense to not to choose which content license which content to keep which content to even bring in. That's not even your own. And and why does it make the most sense so definitely check out that article so with that. It's going to be the end of this episode. This episode ran a little bit longer because we did have a peacock and I didn't really want to do a separate episode just on peacock by itself so we appreciate you guys taking listen and also we did get a listener. Emailed talk asking us to talk about a studio Ghibli. I believe we will talk about the new Netflix Studio. 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Pop Culture Cosmos #214- More AAA Movies Getting Pushed Back, The Monster Hunter Film Steps Up In Their Place, And It's Time For Our Fall Gaming Preview!

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We truly appreciate everyone out there the solid great shows and if you can't please give us that Star Review on Apple podcasts must have you can likes share subscribe, Follow Support Road, some of those gaming stars at US facebook style. It is truly appreciated. Wouldn't be a pop culture cosmos without my good friend ease our own monster hunter. Four pop. Culture Cosmos. Get, a check of what he's doing today at Pop Culture Cosmos Dot Com also his great podcasts Super Bs Games cast and topic clips plus it's awesome book which I'm actually going to go ahead and share some thoughts later in the program on finally. Congratulations he stuck. It is my good friend. It is. Gosh Peterson. What's up man. What's So nintendo switches made a few monster hunter announcements and. Looking at it funny. How that happens you know I'm I. Don't know going to coincide with the film or not, but it makes me like. Want to go back and play those monster. Hunter Games. But at the same time I, know that I'm GonNa go back and play those, and then I'm not going to finish a monkey like two hours. Out, always is with GOP. Geez for me you know I guess monster hundred is final fantasy esque in the fact that it is a. J. RPG with Western sold to Western audiences but anyways yeah I am I'm like pumped monster hundred right now. But then I know that will probably not be pumped tear soon. Well, the reason why we're talking monster hunter is a new teaser trailer robbed. Or Monster Hunter, which got moved up as far as the release schedule in almost unheard of move right now for movies. So we'll talk about that coming up here in a few minutes. Also, while we're talking gangs of London, which debuted on AMC, it's actually been out a few months over on Sky Television and cinemax things of that nature, but this came out to AMC. And I'm going to share some thoughts on it. I think Josh will really like the series and I think he really needs to check it out because it has a lot of elements that I think he will like, and we'll talk about that coming up here in a bit. It's time Josh for fall gaming preview. We're going to go ahead and rattle off all the different things that are coming this fall the video games. And last but not least. Graduation. She sucked read a little bit of it. Now I'M GONNA share some initial thoughts on it coming up later the program. You don't have to run and hide when I do so Josh Okay. Okay. But I, my friend I. WanNa talk about the movies getting delayed because shock upon all shockers and being totally sarcastic when I say that or movies got delayed this week, which seemingly happens every week and the band that. Marcus. Day. The guards who host the pieces you multi-diverse right now for you as said, he was go ahead put a ban on and I told him just a scrap it because seemingly we talk about this every week. Fast and furious nine has been pushed back to. April. And no time to die as also been pushed back into twenty twenty one. Normally would save fast and furious nine with its worldwide audience is going to be the bigger of the two although both have had over billion dollar movies. But the of the two movies the more impactful is no time to die because the fact that it was so heavily relied upon in the UK that Sin World, who owns many many theaters in the UK and also runs the Regal cinemas here in the United States has decided to shut down mostly off of the announcement of no time to die getting canceled. So I want to hear your thoughts my friend want to hear your thoughts on what's going on with no time to and fast and furious nine because as you and I, both know fast and furious nine is going to have a huge worldwide audience. So the James Bond thing was. They've been talking about it for awhile. I honestly didn't think they would do it mostly because James Bond movies have traditionally come out closer to the you know sometime in the fall months, and so I'm looking at it now and I I'm thinking I know we talked about this a lot. We we've had many discussions on like the reopening process of movie theaters what that's GonNa look like when are people going to go back to the theaters and you know one factor I never really did consider until I started reading about all this is the fact that if these studios keep delaying the reopening process is it? Let's look at it this way. Tent Right. Tenet has made what forty five million dollars somewhere in that s made three million just eked out it just eat out over three, hundred million. It does not look even upon your initial estimations in mind as well that it will get anywhere close to four, hundred, million dollars at this because it almost got beat out by hocus pocus I mean right now they haven't even reported the numbers at Hocus pocus. Weekend so far until Warner brothers their numbers. How many years ago? Long time ago sack win. Yeah anyways. So Yes. Yes. So You know what? I'm trying to say like at this point, it feels like they're to passe can take right. They can take the path of just letting these movies gone to theaters and like creating this culture were eventually people will be okay. Going back to the movie theaters. If the movie is big enough people, it'll pull people and then they're going to have to maybe hope on breach getting more returns via like Vod or when the movie gets released home video or you know and I hadn't thought about this till. The James Bond Situation Happen. We saw you know Edwards is is closing down a ton of theaters and I didn't think about this. This point of it was the fact that like the more that we wait right the more that these production companies keep pushing his productions back there might not be any movie theaters left to release to in like that is an issue outside of Corona virus or what means caused by Chris, but like that's an issue that like I had never thought about before because you look at Edwards. They're closing a bunch of theatres. AMC has repeatedly been in the news associated with the word bankruptcy. So I mean they you know even like reading these articles, AMC responding to the no time to die fiasco. It's the fact that like they don't have enough money to just hang in the air for that long you know Chris Nolan and somebody else's like petitioning Congress to save movie theaters. But if they keep pushing back in back, even if Congress were to give them money, it would not guarantee that they would still. Be Able to stay open until these big studios are ready to let these movies finally going to theaters and everybody's asking for money right now the airlines industry is again asking for a lot of money. There's so many industries out there that are asking United States government for money at this point in time it's hard to prioritize which one do you go ahead and if money out to because right now, even the United States government cannot give everyone or every industry out there the money they need five at this point we. Just, only a limited amount of funds there's just only so much they can do right and because of that like there's no guarantee, Congress will be able to give money to the theater. So here is the scenario now is either they have to find some happy medium whether that's releasing some in theaters like the theaters that are open and then putting some out on Vod like splitting up where the prophets coming from that would be one option or they're really throwing the dice here and taking a big risk knowing that, hey, if I push these movies, you know Disney's been doing this a lot. They pushed a lot of their setbacks the. Twenty twenty. Two. So we go there and we say if we wait until next March or June to put these, see these movies out one. There's no guarantee that this whole no corona virus fiasco is going to be over and to there might not be any theaters still open. There might be theaters for us to put these movies into and I. think that is the bigger issue that is not getting considered here. I know there while I was GonNa say this in you wonder when everything does get better how many of these theaters can reopen quickly and how many won't reopen at all? Yes. Yes. especially that so in thinking about this, like you have all these people are complaining about I know universal to reach some kind of contract conclusion with AMC and I think Edwards as part of that where they said, hey, you can have these two weeks. Later we're going to put them out on a vod format that seems like the proper path at this point, but you have these studios like marvel and. Warner brothers who are absolutely refusing to put elise the bigger movies out on vod services and instead they're delaying them. You know. Milan did. And Alon, which according to Nielsen just barely eat into the top ten as far as interest and attendance remembers thirty dollars a pop. So they might have made maybe three or four, hundred million dollars backed by doing. So but that's still a big loss for them because of fact that it tanked so much and so heart in China which is something I know that they weren't expecting. Yes. I know yeah and there's a lot of like political stuff with Milan in. Also which I think had a big effect on. But again, like you look at this, even say corona virus everyone's like super comfortable. They're so cultural just going back to the movies come February or March you put out wonder woman there is no guarantee that it is even going to make any of its money back. There's no guarantee. The movie theaters are going to be the culture that they once were just because you'll have people that are like, yeah I totally want to go see this and then You'll have people who are like I still just don't want to go. It's not a fact of being uncomfortable. It's just the fact that they're being cautious. You know. So I don't know man like I feel like these production companies are making some dangerous moves here instead of just like having a conversation with like movie theaters and there's a lack of market research I guess is what? I'm trying to say. I feel there is a way out of this, but it's not being approached in the right way. But again, there's a lot of uncertainty on how best to approach it my friend because. Nobody seems to have the right answer point time without losing hundreds of millions of dollars. I mean a lot of these movie companies are going to gamble on. Okay. Let's put black widow out in two thousand, twenty one hopefully things will get better if it doesn't get better by Dan will just delay it again these AAA. Movies. Are Going to be the cornerstone for the most part of what rebounds the movie industry if and when there's a period of time that these kids can release on the air I mean. Let's put it like that. I mean I, understand that there's GonNa be a period of time where we're just going to be bombarded with a lot of either AA or AAA movies back to back to back to back to back. Once people start going to the theaters. Once again, if that's the case, it's going to be a rough time for a lot of people because they're going to have a hard time deciding one to go see but I will tell you this I think that's what they're going to take the risk on most of these companies is that okay I will take the risk on having a triple movie come out later on. And making hopefully more money even though there be other AAA movies like release the week before a week after there's a great possibility. Other. Than going ahead and just releasing it now or in early twenty, twenty one where I could have no audience at all your I mean there's really no correct way to go about this. You know you look at ten I guess tenant is made some money hasn't made a lot. I'd be curious to know how much it made if they were to put it out via Vod, I mean are still great demand for it on Vod but the the allure, the attraction of not doing it right in the moment. Probably is hurt them as well. Yeah. Exactly, and also look at like Warner Brothers like other DC films, marvel films like Yeah You can wait till twenty twenty one. But again, there might not be any theaters open to go out to, and that's kind of that could limit on instance as well or they can just keep pushing it back and eventually. That's going to be such a big loss for them that they're. They're going to be in hot water guardless. So I know it's just it's been interesting to read about all this stuff absolutely has been interesting and it's something we'll keep focusing on because. I mean, this is all part of the news in twenty, twenty and twenty twenty one going forward is. Movies getting around. Time in time out weekend week out and we want to hear your thoughts out there. On all these movies being shifted around and around and continuously put back back back is something that bothers you or do you agree with these movie companies that are out there that are just saying, Hey, we gotta do what's financially best for the film we think holding offer films for now is the best answer going forward what are your thoughts on all this going on with the release dates moving back and back for all these triple eight films. Dots Culture Cosmos at Yahoo Dot. com. Hey, this is chat toasters and you're listening to pop. Culture Cosmos. PODCAST. Lakers fans looking for the best place to go up to date news information original videos, articles, podcast opinion pieces, and discussions about the Los Angeles Lakers will look no further than Laker, Hollick's. Dot. com. With the Legion of followers always they're talking about everything Lakers and the NBA. There's no better place to go to share your Phantom as the team heads toward another championship arrive. So stop fine and be part of the conversation today at Laker Hollick's dot com. Speaking of movies, there's actually one movie they got pushed up from, I think in April released to December release. And that is monster. Hunter. With. A through that, you know some people might be familiar with with Milla Jovovich in the title role as the lead monster. With her husband Paul Anderson Directing the film and the thing is so funny because it just has that look and feel of resident evil all over again which we saw time in time out time and time out and you can complain all you want about the film's but they made over a billion dollars for Sony. and. They were a big hit for Sony. So whether or not it comes out to look reviews or things of that nature. There's always going to be an audience for her films. Even though, again, she's playing another video game character because monster hunter has an appeal they monster owner although may not do as well as resident evil movies obviously because the circumstances it still if it comes up and December, which is still up in the air. I think monster hunter can have an effect ause ably, not only for the video game going forward. But also the movie audiences out there that enjoy video game movie because popcorn flick seemed to be the theme of the day that's coming a net and all that in here in twenty twenty. Okay. So this is an interesting thing because you look at it. Historically resonable films have not cost that much money and they have all they've always profited. In the reason they do that is because most their budgets being spent on effects right as opposed to paying these high actor salaries. So you look at a movie like Monster Hunter I I, guarantee you and got you can quote me on this later you want but monster hundred releasing December they are in fact, going to make their money back and then some because it's it's not a high budget film and it is something that like people. If You look at this whole thing, right? You look at the way, the console launches a ban for for video game fans what we've learned from this as have gamers, they don't mind going out in public whether it's the wait in line or by video game or talk to other gamers like they. They seem to be less concerned about contracting something they're being cautious, but they're less concerned than say like the mom with a family of five. So I think that people are going to go see the monster hunter movie you think they might drop a vod either same day or shortly thereafter. Joe That was what I was going to say next is that I think that much like they did was scuba right remember scoop I think had a run like soda. Ted they dropped same day as in the theaters they did market error actually bank on very much anything in in the theaters they were is mainly. But. They did earn a few dollars at the yes. So Monster Hunter will make some money at the theaters in it also, can we look up what the budget for this film is? Real quick sixty, million so sixty okay there you go. I was almost Illinois that's high for them. Yeah. But I mean, it's still under seventy five, million I mean they really letting this go on theaters and then releasing on Vod maybe two weeks later eight is a perfect recipe to make their money back and I don't know I feel like there's nothing to lose at that point though what do you think though because you're the big movie budget guy you know More about this than I do well I mean it's a lower risk for the movie company to put it out this year and they want any returns on any film. This year it's it's probably a safer risk and any because like you said, it has a sixty million dollar budget. It's gotta earn probably close to two hundred million dollars in its run in any way shape or form before it can start earning returned because the usual hypothesis is a movie has to make three to three and a half times. Before you can say, it makes money be due to not only production costs but extra contracts, extra fees hang out to the eater chain themselves. Publishing promotion things of that nature all those costs need to wait in. So movie doesn't really start to make money in most cases around three and a half times so people can gauge that. It needs to make around two, hundred, million dollars at least in some form or fashion before you can say, yeah, it's a Prophet Turner, and I think that's an easier get in this day and age. Two hundred million dollars it's an easier get for any film these days to get to that level than say like tenant, which has to make probably seven, eight, hundred, million before anything in the black. Before Warner, brothers can say you know what? That movies into black because it's turning a profit now at this point. Same thing with the vendors movies, vendors, movies, they would have to make seven, eight, hundred, million, nine, hundred main hours before you can say, okay, this movie's GonNa make a profit though for movie like that where it's two hundred dollars before it sees itself in the black before you can go ahead and say, yeah, it's it's a profitable movie I think it's an easier get all these movies that are coming up this month as far as those low budget horror movies that you probably still going to see. Those movies are always a quick little profit Turner and I think under the circumstances they can still do that as well. Right and what what I'm getting at here is that if any film were to do okay in these circumstances, I think film like Monster Hunter would probably be the one. Either one be the one. On stir hunter might be the one and I agree with you on that plus with all these other moves getting pushed around pushed back into twenty twenty one I would not be surprised if more movies right around that time, it's getting released in December are going to get push-back or in November because some of them may be concerned with just going up by Christmas actually in order to get Oscar consideration but others. May. Want to just get pushed back entirely into twenty twenty one and beyond because the fact that there's no real. As we just talked about with eaters no real way of earning a great amount inside that theater. So it may open itself up to a lot of room to have a chance to profit either in the theaters or if it's released simultaneously on Vod, which I have a sneaky feeling that they will do would it be crazy if just because there are no other movies nominated that Monster Hunters Somehow sneaks into the best picture category in this that would be scary but they're also including all the movies that came out this year on streaming. Though if there's any good movies like defy bloods has gotten a lot of acclaim Palm Springs which I saw earlier this year ad movie is still thought of very fondly. So there are movies out there at came straight to streaming, which will be considered due to the circumstances. The normal circumstances it had to appear in theaters in New, York and La by Christmas but I because the circumstances the Oscar community as change those rules do what's going on with corona virus, but it's going to be very interesting to see what's going to go down. With Monster Hunter and when it comes out December I, still think when is going to get pushed back even though we really WanNa see Dune I think that movie is not GonNa stick its landing in December, but that's just me very expensive movie and it has to turn around and nice profit in order to do so. So I'm going to say right now that Dune is going to be out of the way. So that would leave a movie like monster to sneak in there and get whatever market share there is at that point in time. Yeah, and you know about doing, it's a real shame because like that is December like that is the perfect time for a movie like that to come out because all the people that. You know grew up reading those books are at that point where like they're probably have a few days off for Christmas. So that's like the perfect time period for that movie to come out and it would be kind of a shame to see I push though you're you're right it probably will. It would have been available around Christmas break just it comes out I think mid December. Thank God that. But yes, it's going to be some interesting things that goes on would finally doing comes out but getting back to monster hunter I'm telling you right now monster hunter could be making the best out of a bad situation. Yeah. I mean I think that a film like that is in. Prime position to do. So because again, you know the resident evil films have been historically profitable and seems like monster hunter though the budgets a little bit higher still set to do that same thing. So even in these current conditions, a movie like monster, Hunter could probably rob it at least a little bit absolutely. What are your thoughts out there on Monster Hunter? Are you excited that it's been? One of those rare occasions where a movie gets moved up into December of this year, and it seems like if that's the case, it's going to hold that date in December. What are your thoughts on going to check out monster hunter at the movies or do you think it's going to be released shortly thereafter or maybe even on that date on Vod. Jerry thoughts pop culture cosmos and Yahoo Dot Com. Before we get to the half hour, my friend and right after that, our full gaming preview which we do every year. Want to go ahead and hit you up on this and you will be excited because I know how much of a fan you are of the old Movies with the London gangs and things of that nature and the gentleman which you were. So excited about earlier this year that unfortunately did not click with audiences. IDEA. What's but did you hear that there's a TV show coming out of the gentleman directed by Guy Ritchie. All there you go trying to make the best out of pet situation there. Because it was critically panned and didn't do so well, the box office but hey, there you go trying to maximize the dollars right there smart man indeed gangs of London as just debuted on AMC although it's actually something that was shown earlier this year on Sky Television and then also I believe on Cinemax as well. Gangs of London. It's really. Interesting. It's a modern take similar. What you saw in the gentleman earlier this year but I think it's much harder edged it's less comical and the director. which is the kicker going to be for Josh, which is why he's going to check this out is the director Gareth Evans of the Raid Redemption He's actually written a lot of it as well. So I want to hear your thoughts on this. The fight scenes in there if you get a sneak peek and it's all over the place as far as footage in fact, checkout I g ends coverage of a certain fight scene in the series it's very interesting it. It's very creative. Obviously has the fights when it comes to it. Something that with Gareth Evans to has that background from one of the best martial arts films of all time in the raid redemption is something that hand to hand combat. Action Galore is something that's going to be very interesting to see. So I'm curious where this series will go our friends out there that are playing on radio stations in the UK out. There are good friends out there watching the UK and listening in the UK. You've already seen the serious problems. You already have probably great things to say about it but US Americans were getting it last in the later but you know what? Hey, sometimes good things come to those who wait so I really loved the raid redemption. Let's one of twenty films of all time. There you go. Yeah. If you have like an edge of comedy in IT I. Don't know it's hard. You Know Guy Ritchie has made these types of films and like they're all funny. So it'll be like an interesting twist to see how that's framed until more serious aspect. But my question here would be since he's known for his fight scenes are they're going to be scenes like that in here or are we just going to have a training day situation was just like a really dark greedy gang movie collar there are battles in it. I've already seen if you see the trailer and I've already seen an episode, there is violence that people will be familiar with. Not to the extent of the raid redemption. But there are creative fight scenes that are in Gareth Evans gangs of London has the fact that he has that experience from the raid redemption, and if everybody gets a chance to check out again, the I'm GonNa Give Janneh, plug, they did a nice video talking with Gareth, Evans about a scene that's in the series this year from gangs of London that's based off of great fight scene that's in it, and the things that they use the creative ways that they used household objects into the mix so. I mean you gotta give this a shot man because it also I want to go ahead and tell you if you see gangs of London and you only want to stick to it for five minutes. Let it be the first five minutes because it draws you in that first five minutes with one of the best shots I've ever seen most creative shots. I've ever seen the rest of the show. I saw the episode episodes pretty good I. Enjoyed it. So it has its niche, but I'm curious to go ahead and see what happens continuously with series as it comes out episode by episode here in the states. But yes, my friend I do recommend gangs of London because I've liked what I've seen far. Okay I'll check it. I mean I'm intrigued by because as you know like I'm a fan of. Gangs of New York in the Guy Ritchie Film. So I mean those are two of my favorite types of things. So yeah. I mean definitely sounds like something I could get into. Where can I watch this? Like I said it's on. AMC. AMC Plus I think cinemax still has set up and then if somehow out of overseas. Has Access to Sky television. I believe that sky. Television still has some type of capability to go ahead and show off the series I. Think even though the series I think it's already been played on Sky television in the UK but Gareth Evans. Gangs of London AMC. If you get a chance here in the states I, think it'd be really worth your watch. If you get a chance to see it all, check it out and all I'll get back to you with my thoughts we chat what are your thoughts on gangs of London presented and directed and written Gareth, Evans. Cheers her thoughts. Cosmos at Yahoo Dot Com. Coming up next, it's our fault gaming preview right here at the pop culture. Moving sued zero cool films presents action figure venture super. Collector. Jay Bartlett throat once again in search of action figures most iconic and noteworthy rare figures all in the name of curbing the most ultimate action figure auction. 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My friend before he talk video games, do you WANNA go ahead and get your gaming fingers ready because we're GONNA be talking fall gaming here right now do have been practicing hitting up that old sorry. I'm like trying to match my thumbs here on Games pass. You know playing some of those sweet sweet free ones you know. There you go absolutely and there's sort of four to be talking about here when it comes to Xbox, and playstation because obviously there's a consul or again that's going to break out here in the not too distant future and we'll talk about that here coming up in a few minutes. But first off October really kicks off the fall gaming slade for us and what does came out this week was for the limited time for all your Nintendo switch owners out there Super Mario. Brothers thirty five, that is the thirty five player multiplayer or the Nintendo switch, and I'm telling you right now if you get a chance, it looks very fun I. Hope you get a chance to go ahead and play because this is part of their thirty fifth anniversary tribute to Super Mario himself the want to hear your thoughts are you interested? Josh in Super Mario Brothers thirty five because you can only buy it and download it or a limited amount of time I. Think. Archer April of next year you know it's weird to me I I don't know why Nintendo keeps doing these limited releases ride because Mario three is another one that's going to be taken off shelves come March so whether they're trying to create a demand for their products or if it's just because they're Nintendo and they can you know Beach 'cause I. Mean You could probably release a game like Mario Three D allstars and sell it for like one hundred and twenty dollars people pay for just because Nintendo product. So you're back tomorrow thirty five. Yeah it's something. I was going to download I just you know I was thinking about that earlier today something I do WanNa download and tribe in. This is GonNa make me sound really unpopular. I. Never liked those old. Games very much like I played them. You know when I went to friends houses or like my dentist had it. They were fun but I mean they weren't like sonic to me know they moved really slow whereas like sonic was a super fast paced game. By, all the advertising seen in the documentary which we highly recommend console wars, I I just like I was a Sega Kid. You know like my friends had Nintendo's like that's cool. But it's not Sega you know. So that was I was already I was tainted by Sega growing up the console wars Gotcha. Did, you check out the CBS and all access documentary yet I haven't had a chance I'm going to I am going to, but like I keep thinking about this Or I have thought about this is the fact that like I didn't know there was a council war going on when I was a kid you know. So it's just like my parents bought me a Sega. That's what I played. Yeah. I enjoyed playing Nintendo enjoyed Mario but I just never It was not like my go-to you so that being said, yes I I do WANNA play. It might want to try to see what it's like but probably not going to be something I'm GonNa be like sticking with what about you? Though do you have any interest in playing it I? Do I do very much. So because I do have a always a soft spot in my heart for Mario, I will tell you my friend though when it comes back to console wars if people get a chance check out the interview I had with Blake to hers. and. Jona. Tulips the directors of console wars and I directly thank you on the air by the way when I was speaking to them or introducing me to the book Konta worse that Lake J. Harris wrote, which you can still get today an Amazon Barnes and noble while you're buying congratulations stock by the way, and I will tell you that I enjoyed the console wars documentary very much and if people get a chance, please check it out CBS all access, and also the book is walls up and just cheap there but I wanted to go ahead on with. My thoughts on Mario it's to me this great celebration. They throw out there. It's always gonNA make Nintendo steady money and we're GONNA be talking about Mario here coming up in a few minutes with another. Are themed release coming up here later in the month. But I wanted to ask you this. Next major thing that came out and it just came out this past weekend was stars quadrants I know Marcus. And I talked about it on the Friday show. But I wanted to hear your thoughts star squadrons obviously the price right there forty dollars it was really surprising but a very, well received. Story campaign a multiplayer would seems to be something that they put a lot of time in Karen. And it looks like it's going to be overall a very solid game, which is the second straight victory for ea when it comes to star wars, Star Wars fallen order. So I, want to hear your thoughts, Star Wars, squadrons, which just came out this past weekend I have never been a fan of like flight sims and I remember I did play rebel salt on playstation came out and I played star Wars Jedi starfighter I. Think it was called on the xbox at first is really on the fence. About this game like it looked cool but it just it's not my style game but then I started watching some videos of it ends. It looks really cool. So it is something that I am interested in playing I haven't picked up a copy yet trying to get through a couple of things I'm playing right now but you know when I have a break come. Thanksgiving, you know I got that week off as a as a teacher that might be something that I want to sit down and play. Not, telling people out there. You're grading papers. That's what you want to add at. Little bit of both maybe who knows is something that's like on your queue right now it is on my cue I interesting like you. I've got reviews left and right of products I still have to finish first and things I gotta catch up on writing wise as far as catching up for pop culture, Cosmos Dot Com, and of course, the NBA finals still going on there so much on our plate right now that is really hard to say you know what? I'm going to drop everything and go star were squadrons but. Man Forty Bucks. which is an almost unheard of price for something that is perceived to be a big league game and to do it well, and it isn't just a throwaway is really a big win. For EA EA is trying to better after the years of being called the worst company in America for year and year and year out I'm just really surprised at the positive direction that they're trying to understand. Yeah. Sure. They're still doing micro transactions on some stuff and some games and. They're still getting things ride and things of that nature. But you know it with star, wars squadrons after the fiasco of the battlefronts and how that was dealt. With I, think this is definitely a step in the right direction. Yeah I mean again like it looks really cool. It's a very visceral game. You know even everything about it like you see the way you're flying through space everything. Going on in the cockpit like it's all very active it's not what's the word I'm looking for like like Pixel, early, you know like games like that style used to be, and because of that like it really kinda draws my interest i. don't know like what pools in other people but it is something that has made me really want to pick up a copy and give it a try. Coming up this week is a twenty one on the ninth. Obviously, that's going to be a big worldwide game. A lot of people are still interested in that. They had a little bit of controversy with. Advertisements they put kids magazine in regards to step to where they were talking about eating the packs and getting things that nature which obviously is a very sore subject comes to micro transactions and putting money into something that you would go ahead and getting a randomized thing. So you're not sure which is kind of like a crude form of gambling. So yeah, that wasn't saved well is still has those issues that you have to go ahead and buying purchase all this extra stuff after purchasing the game. But then again at the industry now that we speak but I expect One to be at the heights of the sales charts wide comes to video games because it's been there. So many years now, and this is something I saw coming many years ago I don't want to pat myself in back but I'm patting myself on the back when I say this that. This is something that a lot of people were saying you know what? It's going to be mad and it's going to be mad for no fee is something that they now considered to be one of their top if not their top series in their arsenal. As far as beef and micro transactions go I've talked to a lot of people who really love that series and to me like they are you know in our conversations have said the micro transaction suck but I mean, I have found myself buying them just because like I love the game so much and I like the customize my team when I play online and I totally understand that I mean I fe-? has never been like I don't know like it's not one of those games where you have micro transactions led you actually like be better. It's all aesthetic. So I mean e as you know, they've they've kind of been a little. smug when it comes to micro transactions but I think with like a game like fi fi could be okay. But again, I'm not a huge fan of that franchise that being said though I do really admire the franchise right? Just because it's taken a sport like soccer and it is a beautiful game I mean, we've seen it when we've been to e three, we've seen it during some of the game's concept like it is a very, very beautiful game. It's not something that I am like in line to play, but I do see why people are enamored by it. Coming out the next week Mr. Nhl Fan is NHL. Twenty one right after it. Out to my friend Cory Gaddar who was with me on so many episodes, of course, way back in the day but I remember him just loving NHL each and every time out and I'm sure he's going to be picking up and for all those fans a nice base of fans at Love Nhl Twenty one and for those fans out there Nhl twenty-one is coming out on the sixteenth of October also coming out on the sixteenth of October is again another Morio theme product but this is kind of different. This is gonNA be Oreo Cart. Live home circuit. This is something I checked out the video which intended video had an overview of this. Already, this is going to be something that comes with. Physical. Cart. Either Mario. Luigi comes with basically attract that you set up via for checkpoints that you make along the road and you could design it pretty much how you want. You have to make sure you have to have a hard floor. Or Stop You can't be doing this on carpet here could be going nowhere gotta have a certain space to do it too but it's so bringing that augmented reality as far as downloading the game onto your switch. You're basically guiding this cart against augmented enemies and also you can go ahead and race against other people up to four people, but they have to have switches as well and the four cars. So it's about ninety, nine, ninety, nine little bit pricier than most games. Again, you're getting a physical card and the game is an interesting concept. There's some variations to it as far as the themes and the different types of race modes. Mainly, the track configuration which you make yourself based off of the four checkpoints is the key right there. So I want to hear your thoughts on this. Augmented reality. Game. Arial Cart live. Home Circuit so it's funny. You mentioned this is something that you know I have been asked to inquire about. By. Ask Yeah. The the boss lady you know. So I went into game stop trying to see if I can preorder. They had such very limited preorder for these and they said it's expected to be like a hot holiday item. So they're like, Hey, come back on October sixteenth and will probably have some in store or we know that our warehouse will be stocked with a lot of this because we're expecting the cell a lot. So you know if you're new wants his. Game. You should probably go line up on the sixteenth when the game comes out as for your question about how I see this game it sounds really cool. You know I've been reading some reviews. The big complaint I hear about is that like you have to actually go set up your own track and I am thinking that if that's the reason people are complaining, we've got some other issues we have to address because that's the whole of the game is the fact that like Augmented reality you're making your own track. And the one negative thing about this is you give this gift to a kid that doesn't know how to use remote control car. You're going to run into a situation where like as a parent you're going to have to go and constantly be putting that car back onto the track. That's the only downside I consider this game feature though that Supposedly you know you look at Mario Kart like Nintendo sixty four switcher or wherever you played it. You always have the cloud ride that has the fishing pole that like fishes you out of whatever situation you ended up on. So you don't have something like that but. I think that the game is really cool. It looks really cool I've watched video of it. Have read about it. I'm really fascinated is something that I would absolutely love to play. You're listening to the pop culture cosmos don't touch that dial. We do people still use dials. If you need your video game Vix, be sure to check out Retro City Games located in Town Square on Las Vegas Boulevard or in Henderson Nevada Retro City Games as. The Cure for all your video game vices, Retro Games, and Games for current consoles Nintendo Sega playstation xbox and more retrofitted games has all the stables from any library in some highly collectible offerings to to pick up a few games today a Retro City Games in Town Square on Las Vegas Boulevard or Henderson Nevada. Retro. City Games is your video game trucks. We're back with our fall gaming preview. Want to go ahead and thank everyone for listening pop culture cosmos Gerald classroom along with my good friend. Josh Peterson. One ask you this my friend coming up the next week speaking of Nintendo because I'll tell you what they're being very smart about it and you know me I bash Nintendo over the years on a lot of things but also praise them on a lot of things as well. And with the switch, they're hitting everybody hard with not only the Mario stuff that thirty fifth anniversary not only with Mario Kart live. But now the week after hitting you with Pokemon with Pokemon Sword and Shield on the twenty second this is an expansion it's going to be. Pokemon Sword and shield the Crown Tundra I mean that hits you right up Yeah. Nintendo is be dominating as far as sales are concerned at least with a great measure of this because they're adding that crown thunder in there to freshen up again, that's already been out quite some time I think they're doing it at the right time. So isn't it crazy? How everyone is so concerned I mean myself included about Nintendo lack of announcements. And then they announced like four or five titles that could be interesting. You Know Mario Three all stars Hira. Warriors. The Mario Kart game, the pokemon expansions, and all they really need is two or three big titles to kind of dominates the holiday market. And it's funny how that? Happens because you have all this like absolute chaos on the side of Microsoft and Sony and Nintendo they gotta do is release two or three games, and that's going to be what people want for Christmas. Coming out the week after is watchdogs. Legion which I know you said, you had some interest hands that comes out on the twenty ninth at the last major game of the month in my opinion at this point in time. So one here thoughts unless you consider Pittman three deluxe is going to be a solid seller which could be under the radar for the switch but I want to hear your thoughts on watchdogs legion is it turning out to be the? Game you think it will be yeah I think. So I know they're bringing back the main pro tag from watchdogs. One is going to be featured in the game somehow and I think one of the other characters from watchdogs one is going to be in it also is a game where like? I. Do you WANNA play it? I probably won't be able to play it till. November just because I don't have the time right now to invest in a game. Of that magnitude I am interest implying I, I will pick it up. I just don't know when I'll get around to like sitting down and focusing on the game especially because assassin's creed come on like super interested in that one. But yes, I am interested answer your question I'm sorry I am interested in playing watchdogs three legion. Well there you go. That's pretty much. October's far as the major releases they're. They're obviously going to be some kits as well. That will be part of it and we'll go ahead if there's anything that really needs to be talked about we'll be talking about coming up here over the next month but November is really going to be a big month. It'd probably one of the biggest gaming months in years, not only tighter releases but obviously you have to consoles being released at the same point in time within two days of each other. The want to hear thoughts man coming up. We're going to start the month. November tenth assassin's creed Bal because November tenth is going to be a big day because there's a console release on that day. With. I believe the XBOX series coming out on the tenth and then the playstation thereafter. But assassin's creed ball Khawla tell me your thoughts on November tenth not only may you be picking up a console but obviously big game as well that's Asoka Hall looks amazing. I don't know if you've got a chance to check out that new story trailer, but it looks like it's a setting that similar to what the original assassin's creed was but it's more familiar because we've all seen like the Vikings show and just a lot of the documentaries the S.. My big question here now is that you know I'm going to definitely GONNA, try to get an xbox series x on November tenth but. Mike an end up playing it on xbox one or xbox series x I. Guess It depends on if I get the console but there's a lot of games that are coming out right around that time and probably the biggest of them all will be call of duty black ops, Cold War of the Games that are coming out right around that time I mean because you're going to be seeing a lot of playstation five and xbox series games that are coming that we've seen before on previous systems. But of the Big Games, November thirteenth is also going to be big day because call of duty black ops cold war just after these consoles get released all duty Cold War comes out consoles. Yes. This is a call. Do that might make me WanNa. Go back and play call of duty again it's just I was just announced last week. Yeah. So this is a game I do WANNA play it's not going to be running out to get on launch day though just it's called duty it'll be around when I want it to be I think there are more pressing games coming out but I know that there is a big audience in a lot of people who are going to play this. So I respect that. Absolutely. It's going to be something I might Gimme back into the colleges series I know. arcus has been trying to draw me in because he's getting back into it for the first time in several years, he was a competitive call duty player and he's getting back into it. He's getting his friends back into it. He taught about at length zombies and how much he wants to go ahead and start playing that again on call of duty black ops cold, War I'm looking forward to the story and playing through it, and of course, the multiplayers. Well. So call of duty black OPS old war if we've got any money leftover after buying a system, if we buy a system, we might have to spend it oncology black ops cold war. Coming out the rest of the month there's still one more big big big title and I'm sorry Tall Kingdom hearts fans it's not melody memory it is cyberpunk twenty, seventy seven as the major release left on the slate and that is coming out November nineteenth. So about about a week over week after you have your brand new xbox series s or experts series x and playstation five. You'll be able to go ahead and buy cyberpunk twenty, seventy seven but fear not it'll be on every major system including PS four, an xbox one as well. So WanNa hear thoughts. This is something that we've really been gearing up for its been a lot of hype for this game obviously the success of the witcher three for the parent company and the parent studio something that we. Take an account. So what are your aspirations for cyberpunk when he's seventy seven? I'm excited about it. This is a game that we've been talking about for years. It is a game that has already garnered praise even though it hasn't been released yet, and this is a game that people who haven't played games in a long time are excited to get back into place. So he oughta. Scandal Sant's. Right. Right. So yeah, I mean I'm definitely excited about it. The big question here is we're getting closer and closer is it going to get pushed back again? It's still could happen. I. Don't think so I don't think so because we're not dealing with something that. Right now is the same in effect as the eaters and movies and. Video on demand the uncertainty of it, all gaming has never been higher in two thousand twenty as far as revenues concern. So people are buying games a lot more digitally. So I think if it does get delayed, it's not of wanting to go ahead and do out of necessity but I have a feeling during crunch time and I'm feeling they've already delayed this once. I. Think it was a September release if I'm not mistaken. I think that they're going to go ahead, stick to this landing in November and I think they're gonNA make it right although for proven wrong I'll just go ahead and say on the arrows proven wrong but I want to go ahead say this right now that I think cyberpunk twenty, seventy seven most likely will be coming out on November nineteenth right in the midst of new console generation want I'll tell you what it's going to be something that's probably going to be one of the most analyze games of the year I'll say I'll say it's going to be the best game of the year or best games of the year I will say it's one of the most analyzed games. Wanted to go ahead before we had an out my friend and close closeout, our phone gaming preview I wanted to river back a week. To November tenth and twelfth and you and I are going to be touching on this again on at least four, the one occasion. But before we head out on our fall gaming preview, I, want to hear your thoughts on the console generation that's starting up on. November tenth with Xbox Series S A to ninety nine x series x at four, ninety, nine and playstation five at three, ninety, nine, and four, ninety, nine respectable. I think that both companies like kind of messed up by not creating more product you know they have such little product and we're GonNa have another conversation or other senator another time, but with scalping. So they created this thing we're like a few people. Got It. Some scalpers got it but they've created this scenario where there's so many people scalping pre orders online that the people who actually want to buy these consoles and playing won't be able to because they won't be able to afford them. 'cause you go on ebay right now the cheapest ones like one hundred dollars. So think both companies messed up by not creating enough for their customer base and who knows when these will be readily available. Some people think that xbox be available sometime in the holiday season and you know people think that playstation won't be available to like February march of next year. So I mean this is definitely created a problem and I just hope that they are able to remedy this before these consoles come out. I've told you during our private conversations that I'm not going to be a hypocrite when it comes to scalping if somebody's going to make a dollar off it in these days and age especially now, what are you? GonNa do what are you gonNa say it's we live in a capitalistic society here in. America. It's up to the individual that wants to buy that price I tried to sell off my playstation three that originally bought the day came out and I've spent it almost eight hundred dollars on it and shipping would cost me over thousand dollars. So I actually had an auction up for Ebay was going to go ahead and sell it, but I didn't hit the reserve price that I wanted to. And so just you know what? Instead of going shipping on costing me ton of money because it was really heavy system I'm just GONNA go ahead and keep it and I was satisfied with it. I I got to play a lot of games with it and I've told you about my history with the playstation three in the past, but I'm not going to be hypocrite scalpers are right now if you want it. You're going to go ahead and buy it. But. If you WANNA wait is probably the best thing to do even wait a couple of weeks they'll get replenishments in I know supplies will be limited to some foreign fashion but during the Christmas holiday season there should be ways in which people should be able to get it. It's not going to be as scarce. I. Think after its initial run. So if anybody wants to pay eighteen hundred dollars for xbox series my gosh that's Really want it that bad. I do WANNA revisit scouring a whole lot more to say on that. Yeah I mean I hope. So I just hope that it is going to be available I know how soon they're going to be phasing out the xbox one games and PS four games but like I hope that it is going to be available for people by the time they start phasing those out I'm going to say this Josh. Two things, xbox and playstation not only like you said, messed up with the preorder messed up with the availability of the units initially but also messed up the fact that they really have. No. I gotta get it because it's an exclusive game only to the playstation five xbox series scenario. They don't really have an exclusive game to that platform to the generation yet that makes you want. To say, I gotta get it specifically for that. They don't really have any launch titles outside of games that you get on the older systems that's really going to say you know what I gotta get it. So that's a fault to both of them while they were just in such a hurry to release these councils they didn't put emphasis on the Games themselves, which is very disappointing. But. I will say that Xbox with the purchase of Bethesda and all that they're doing to set up for this next generation is as prepared be as competitive as they can't in this marketplace whether or not they win this next console generation that's ultimately up to the consumers out there but I can say without hesitation that if there's any point in time in any console generation that xbox most prepared to win it or be competitive in it then I'd say now yeah, I mean I again like I just hope that they're available for people that want them I feel like we're the the beginning of the console race outside of purchasing the initial consul. I feel like it'll really like actually start in two, thousand, twenty one when all the exclusive game start coming out. Yeah, and that's really a lot of people will be interested. Are we going to go ahead and get one early? Josh's leaning on it I'm back on the fence. So we'll see if opportunity strikes you never know you never know. It is a new generation happening on November tenth and November twelve with the xbox series units and also the playstation by. What are your thoughts on our fall preview which games and consoles? Are you interested in getting this fall? We would love to hear your thoughts as part of our fog gaming preview. Pop Culture. Cosmos. Dot Com. On my friend has been a great episode. I cannot thank you for joining me. You've got Marcus Day the guards sitting in the big chair for you on Friday show. But before we had on out my friend I gotTa tell you I have read a few pages of congratulations you suck finally. That's always my shot at USA say that. Friendly though. Is So far I will say this I don't want to give any spoilers away out there, but I will say without a doubt, it's a very introspective and very personal story it bleeds through and just because I know you I've known you now since Twenty fifteen for you that's been unfortunately I know and what I know of you. I know this has to be your most personal story you've ever written. Yeah. Yeah. Man It. I think that's one of the reasons it took me so long to finally get it all out there but there is a lot of hesitation to put some things into that book granted. It's highly fictionalized. You know a lot of it is just at the core of it is stuff like for my own experiences and stuff that I feel. But Man, it was a book that. I know is a story that I felt needed to be told it wasn't something I was just doing for attention is only Matt I felt compelled to do although if there's a section in your book that deals with a loud mouth co-host podcast her that you really don't like on undermined. I'm. 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Season 8 Trailer Breakdown!

Game of Thrones The Podcast

32:59 min | 1 year ago

Season 8 Trailer Breakdown!

"The. Welcome to the game of thrones podcast. The officially unofficial podcast for game of thrones on HBO. I'm Jim I'm Erin, and we are here today after the long winter the long night to finally talk about the trailer that HBO just dropped we've been super excited ching talk about it. And this is the perfect excuse. You've seen the trailer. I assume if you're here to do a podcast about it. I am I've seen it many times. And excruciating actually did like freeze frame a few times. Yeah. Because my first time like you, and I both are kind of align in our feelings about trailer reaction, videos and podcasts. And I I mean, I feel like this is the quivalent of us as podcasters stripping for cash. Like, this is what people want that pays the bills. But like are we really going to have? I look at like straight up reaction bids. Not like talking about the trailers means for the future, but just like mouth agape staring at a rain that doesn't interest me. But after I got done winding bitching for a while. I'm like, you know, what I'm actually going to do this upright. And I spit like an hour and fifteen minutes frame by frame going over to the the the trailer and noticing things and trying to do research on what those things by be. And now you've got it. You've got a podcast that's going to be breaking. The trailer not entertained, we are United States. We're going to first talk about kind of like the plan for season. Eight on bald move there. We're gonna talk about a general thoughts about the trailer. And then we might have a little bit of spoiler. He stuff these are not like production type spoilers or more of just things I know from the lower and from things, I know from the books that might give you inside information helped make you connections that you might not otherwise of made. But I don't think they're going to be oh, my God night king sits down and thrown kind of kind of thing. So but still going to put them last because I know some people wanna go in completely spoiler free. And I'm trying to do that. I am aware that there are some leaks and some there's a lot of things came out production photo wise, and what people know the plot. They've already pieced together a lot of things, but as in years past I am trying very hard to stay stay clear that so. If you want I got to say if you want like an exhaustive breakdown of a trailer, just go to shift X on YouTube. If he doesn't have one out now it'll be out by the end of the day. And it'll be glorious and amazing. You'll get like half the stuff that we might have missed. So check him out. All shift ex is awesome. Okay. I wanna talk about the schedule because we have you know game of thrones season. Eight is one of those exciting things that's ever happened here. And we are this is probably the most exciting finale since breaking bad. I would say so. Yeah, I mean leftovers I was definitely. But like, you know, I've been waiting for this thing for almost two years only to and it seventy eight years a lead up to five books like there's a lot. I keep hearing things about all. Every single episode is is a movie unto itself, right? They spent hundreds of millions of dollars. Yeah. Right. This. This is a hundred million people watching globally less. Leftovers at one hundred thousand people watching globally, so yeah, this is like since since season the wrap up of breaking batting's as the most important. This most exciting thing that's ever happened to us. We are having coverage match if you haven't been with the sense. The last time we talked about game of thrones. A lot has changed in the this extended off-season, I wrote a book actually wrote two books with a religious scholar called gods of thrones volume one came out last fall volume two's gonna be coming out this spring. I hope April first that's what we're trying to hit. That's the dream. That's the dream. They'll be linked to that the two volume one in the show notes. If you want to check that out and starting in March twenty six Anthony and I- Anthony is Dr Don is the co author of the book are going to be doing a promo podcast volume to God's thrones. And if you missed her podcast volume one, we basically do a deep dive into subject matter of the book, which is a comparative analysis of the religion, fake religions. From game of thrones with the very real life and factual religions of our own world. And we take a particular topic or character religion analyze like last year. We did deep dives and the characters of cat stark and Tyrian Lancaster, and how their religious faith or lack there of influences their character. And then a week later in April second releasing a second promo podcast for God's thrones. Then the week after that shit gets real April. Ninth begins are officially unofficial coverage of season eight where we do a preview podcast, and we're going to be discussing kind of our hopes dreams and fears for season eight what the stakes are for the show and its legacy. Because like we said there are some takes here what it means in the context of George Martin's larger work, and whatever else you find folks wanna talk about. And again the way this in his feedback is in the show notes. But it's game of thrones of ball move dot com. And also, we have forums. Forums all move that com. That will be jumping the season. Is it too early to start sending in feedback now? No, okay. No. We actually have. I've pretty full feedback from the from Q as from last God's throne. But no, it's never too early to late or well, it's definitely it'll be it'll be definitely too late after the Rapa podcast receipt to talk about game game of thrones. Because the whole show is going away. But it won't be too early to send in your prequel feedback. Yeah. Just ahead that answer off. Yes. Yes. When the prequel series, debuts on HBO, we will be there day one hundred percent with our Valerian swords strapped on and we'll be talking about it. So we are going to in the season proper. We're going to be bringing the game of thrones a feature that we did with our better call Saul podcasts last year. So you've if you'll recall in previous years, we've had like the instant take podcast where we immediately published like an off the cuff review and discussion as soon as the episodes airing this year, we're doing that. But we're also doing a second part called the instant talk where people can join and get an audience discussion going with us using YouTube chat feature now to catch his at you have to be a club member to participate in the audience participation part of the podcast, and you can join that club that bulb move dot com. But so that's exciting Rabih doing those the night of the the shows releasing and our first into talk podcast. Four will be immediately after premiere of season eight episode one on April fourth April fourteen favor fourteenth. Dammit, I almost I did I didn't fuck it up April fourteenth. We have full coverage of that same up sewed on Tuesday. April sixteenth, then we'll be continuing to do to spoiler. Addition little come out later that week where we talk about the books and we've actually give George Martin shit, but he actually did release a pretty girthy new book fire blood, which is just volume on their target. And there there was a new information on that. So maybe that he's just trying to kick start the new series and then. Yeah. We wall doing something extra fun to celebrate game of thrones final season, why by hosting one of our super serious film fest and its honor. Now, a lot of people probably don't know what that is. But the super film fest, just Jim and I doing a podcast and video series around the theme the collection of movies and this year's theme is fantasy and we're gonna be taking a stroll through fantasy classics such as Conan the Burien Dragonheart, bee's master Excalibur. We're gonna have podcast reviews and discussions for everybody publicly available. I've live watches for the film's exclusively for club members. All that's going to be going down on the bald movie feed. If you search for bald movies on your favorite podcast app or tunes or Google play. Or wherever you listen, you'll find it easy peasy. Now, some people always ask. Well, how can we help you? How can we help bald move? And during the season, it's real easy rate reviews on itunes, Google play Spotify wherever you listen to us tell. Your friends, family and coworkers there in the game of thrones. Like they're into game. Thrones probably be into our podcasts less. They're like one of those up tight proves it does like swear. And don't send them to us. And they're not watching game of thrones. Who is the uptight prude it doesn't and watches game of thrones through cracked fingers, t he I don't know if I should be watching this. I'll tell you who they are they're liars Myers. Are who they Chris frauds? Counterfeits? They'll tell you. They're not watching games. So. Yeah. And then you'll see a fuck in house snow pin on their shirts sits in the cinema way. We'll sort them out and also share our posts everytime. We posted up a soda goes out on all the social media platform share that shit if you're inclined or join the club club that all move dot com. That's another way to help us. All right. I got talking about this trailer man this shit. We have we have Burt Horose in our trailers or burden Holzner trailer pockets something like that. Jim the number one that take away from this trailer battle of winter fell. Right. Looks. It. I mean, it almost seems like the battle of winter fell is going to be the entirety of season. Eight based. Based on trailer, which is cool with me. I've been hearing a whole bunch of shit about how this is like the biggest battle or the longest battle scene ever committed to film. It's something in cinema, and they're not saying in television in cinematic history. This is the largest longest has me sort of worried because I've seen transformers to and that has the shit load, very long, very bad and boring action scene. Yes, that is a battle in the in the city, but the transformers and fucking hated it. So this can go one of two ways be great. It could be if they pull it off. And they execute the way they need to this could be riveting or it could be extremely boring. Well, and also like the way the way they phrased it in articles like it's the largest slash longest or like in televi-. Like, I don't know what always awards they use but minds me of lot. Whenever a new roller coasters released. It's always the tallest fastest. Inverted suspended Titi holding rollercoaster. Like, Tom any other Titi holy roller coasters to support the titties? Do we have to others and this is five foot taller like? Okay. I mean, it's McGill Paci Nick, and it's a big battle. So it's going to be awesome. Whether it's historically defining awesome remains to be seen. But yeah. Because because every time they've done a battle. I've been in thrall d- like the battle of the bastards was walking mazing. And definitely I think will contribute to what we think of in like cinematic battles like that. Great shot. John standing alone against a whole cavalry charge. I mean that. Yeah. Almost trampled to death by guys. Like, yeah. I mean, that's up with anything you'll see like being hurt or gladiator or Braveheart any that any of those things I think they might be doing a switcheroo on us. I think that they are intentionally letting us think that all of the battle footage is the battle winter, Phil when I I have a theory that anytime you see like the red fog of war, the battlefield, it's foggy. But it's also covered fire like like, the kind of the last scene of full metal jacket where they're singing K. You are. Yeah. I think that's going to be like the siege of king's landing or like bringing to Justice. Okay. Because like there's a lot of scenes cold, and snowy and pitch black and lack the wind's blowing. And then there's a lot of fog of war on fire to my that can't be the same said. But but yeah, maybe. Yeah. Because also there's a scene of like John in that kind of fiery fog. There's a scene. Of giant storming gate. Why would it be storming winter phil-? I would like like unless it's one of those things where he's frantically grownup. Like like, let me let me back in two hundred any more like I don't see that happening. Padras died, right? Yeah. Pod. The rod can make you speaking of which that's maybe my favorite shot of the whole trailer. Just with her painting across the battle line. Yeah. And you see Brandon Padre Padre is looking as somber as possible. And as much like a bad as possible. Yeah. I'm ready for him to have like a signature fighting. Yeah. That would be pretty cool because it's been building. We know he's got prowess at a certain type of sword fighting and Brian's been trying to get that to translate into actual Marshall not marital pros but Marshall pros, and we'll see I think he'll he'll have seen the shine this year. What else you got? I mean, everyone is there. I mean, it looks like Jamie's come into winter fell to help quote unquote, fight for the living. We see like Giora, and Danny and John like all the forces of congregated at winter. I mean, sir Dabo's Dabo. So hearing gets a sneak sneak attack looks like he's finally getting it obliterated by dragon fire to believe the cuts in regular, which I don't know. Yeah. I'm just excited to see everybody teaming up on the white walkers to to go to town. Yeah. So shall we do because like I said, I got this. Oh, and they train the shit out of maisy Williams that they got her in the gym, and they got a fucking bow staff. Yeah. And she has some serious moves. Now, she's going full dot L O from teenage me NAN. I can't wait because we've never really seen aria do much of anything. It's always been like talk. Yeah. Racial like dress up like a little girl and stabbed dude or sneaky shit. I wanna see some bad face and feed Walter phrase some phrase to get it. That's kinda thing. That's different. She's going to have to really take a break. I'll see her turn into her full potential as a water dancer. Yeah. We want we want. We want blood. We what we won. We've got this. Concept battle between seeing won an aria to have a normal. Nice life too late for that. You're right. You're right. She's a psychopath already. There's a line in the trailer where she's like death has many faces. And I'm looking forward to seeing talking about the white walkers scary little golf, girl. It's frightening. Okay. We have got a deep dive prepared. But I also like, I know I've spent pry too much this podcast talking about ball move shit. But I wanna keep some house because we're actually a cyber preparing for game of thrones doing shit right now in bald movies feed as we discussed you can search for bald movies, anywhere. You can find podcast we are reviewing the boy who harnessed the wind the new film by chew it's L G for as well as captain marvel the latest in the nonstop never ending marvel series. It's going to kick off just like a month later that other big cataclysmic wrap up to injure series sesame, and I are in the middle of fresh playthrough of new Super Mario brothers. You on twitch dot TV slash bald move, which we're having a really good time. People are seeming to enjoy it, and you can also see to complete archived thus far at YouTube dot com slash bald move. And finally a ball move TV. We're talking about who lose into dark series, the tree house episode and. Also discussing the Michael Jackson documentary that debuted this week on HBO leaving Neverland. Okay. The trailer also inform and made it yes. Which I'll be discussing in this deep dive. So we begin to aria running through dark corridor. Presumably in winter Phil looking anxiously over her shoulder. My question is what could make the aria that. We know the bad scary little go after all that scared is this a dream sequence. Is this a brand vision as she undergoing some kind of citing assault. What would like even like three ice ambi- chasing her maker that like pants wedding Lee, afraid what? She go to. It's possible. I suppose it's possible. Maybe it's Jackson. Yeah. Maybe jack. And during the midst of the battle for with the WI with the wave girl, and they're like, you know, what just because I smiled didn't mean. It was. Okay. Right. Rita bail on your training. And all the faceless men. They don't have faces just as bread bloody red skulls. Okay. That would do it. I have no idea. Honestly. I can't think of anything that would make aria run at this point. Yeah. I mean this dragon coming through the winter, right, right? Like someone open the chamber of secrets and let out the hypocrites or whatever from Harry Potter. Like, what the hell what the hell? Maybe it's one of those big fucking ice spiders that shit spider pass through winter fell after her would probably have me. Yeah. You know, pull them my legs up off the floor. Like like, I don't know someone that's on a stool hide from a mouse. I can't think all the cultural references, my brain. Are pulling are wildly inappropriate from old cartoons that. No one should have been allowed to see. But anyway, yes, she scared of something. She's also talking like, you said bad ass about I know death wears many faces. I look forward to seeing this one as she holds up into city of knife. Obviously talking about the white walkers Davos is walking on the Biddle. Batum fr- battlements of what's probably winter fill as troops. All around them. Stand ready for battle viruses in shelter with women and children. Yeah. This has got to be the crypts of winter fell. Right. Yeah. I think so I wonder if there's going to be kind of a reprise of Santa's role from season to where. Right. His his. Water that was her first leadership role where she kinda chilled all the noncombatants down, and like showed some genuine courage in the face of this. Yeah. I don't know. But it's it'll be interesting to come on various if Tyrians out there, you can get out there. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I also wonder I don't know. I think it'd be cool various have like some kind of hidden talent for killing. He kills his tongue. Yeah. Yeah. It is intelligence. There's also brand in toning. Everything you fought. Or brought everything he did brought you where you are now where you belong home. And he's saying this over a montage of like grade way fleet and Dolor said and torment and Barrett coming back and SAM's there at some point. I think he's probably talking John though, really I was gonna say it's probably pep talking. Sam same probably pretty damn useless. Right now is pretty I think I think the way the plot is working out is he's probably going to be pretty useless that I would assume. Yeah. So maybe he's trying to trying to help him deal with his uselessness in the face of the battle of the white walkers. Yeah. But we'll see. But I think it's I took it as like him. This is going to be the scene where because there's gotta be seen where someone's sits John down and say, hey, yo at your aunt. You're banging. Yeah. Mister tar Garin, and it's going to have to be brand brands already creepy. He's like hiding. Anything for me, John? I watch you guys every night it's better than Cinemax. Honestly legit. So I think that's what's happening. So we see to graduate fleet. And there's like a nother kind of switcheroo where just three ships coming towards you which I think might actually be like Yara theon fleet. And then they like flip around and their show on inside of ship still graduate vessels. But there's hundreds of them, and it's like this full company. People standing golden armor. This is almost certainly the golden company the cell sword company that sir see sent year on great joy over to Esso's to fetch. So she'll have something for John Danny to contend with when they get back, and there's a there's a false lead. Here. This guy standing sort of on the upper deck here looks like it could be Jamie from the back. But it's not looks Jamie. Lancaster? It's definitely not is because of the company he's keeping and his his hand. He's got an hand for that. Now, it could be in the books, the leader of the golden company is this, sir. Harry strickland. But it doesn't match book description. This guy's like an old portly Fatman or a balding, man. And this guy's like again could be mistaken for Jamie, Lancaster. So I wonder if the fact in the books golden company is was founded by a bunch of black fire rebels and the black fires were a branch of illegitimate. Tar guarantees that were legitimized by very bad king and caused a instant civil war and the ones that lost went to SOS, and they did various things one of them. The bitter steal the guy the bastards name bitter steel founded this gold golden company, and there's a lot of theories that they're going to be involved with in the books anyway, bringing this kind of fake target area and his manufactured tar, Gary and back the kind of be affoil for Danny? And. Like, this guy is like that kind of handsome, and like what you would kind of expect from that kind of character. But it's way too short in a game to be doing something. Like that. Right. Yeah. I mean, you're you're. I don't think they're going to introduce that. I think what's happened. Here is a Dario situation where they've just said fuck the description in the book, we don't care we're going with somebody completed it could be they have this kind of golden prince not like because they do that sometimes like a wing to book readers like. Yeah. This is another universe where we had five four seasons and George finished a fucking books. This would be the guy we get to play fake on tar Garin. But yeah, I don't know could be I could see like, you know, someone talking to your on about. We've hated. Hated the tar Garryowen's. And the that branch that Turkey Gary ins for generations. And we want our chance to get even I could see them bringing a little bit of that Laura into their like, you said, we we do have confirmation that torment and Barrick survive epoch wall collapse last season because they're seen here going through a dark corridor. With Barrick sword lighting, there's a quick shot of salmon there to throw confusion about who brands talking to. And then they show, sir. C looking smug as hell after establishing shot at king's landing the mountain looks like a giant doc Johnson novelty dildo back there, I fucked on hate to design weaned guard so much okay? So much. It's like, I don't know there's Khyber into the side fanning the flames of smugness, no doubt. As brand says home. We see this shot of the Townfolk outside winter fell kind of observing this giant marching column of solid going winter Phil and there's a kid and extreme foreground that really reminds me a lot of young Ricken from season one. I wonder if because we started our relationship game of thrones. By seeing this big retinue of the Barath themes coming into king's landing or not I'm sorry winter fell and brand seeing that from the tower. It seems like there's a lot of these notes that are trying to remind you of where we began. And now, we're we're going which I thought was kind of nice. There's a shot of John Danny writing amidst solely looking fucking bad ass, which is probably who again brand is talking to the scene dragon buzz sans, and and one of which refills towers and she flashes. Kind of like the small smile of oboe is going to be really helpful weapon. Or maybe it's just wonder, I don't know. Yeah. Everybody kind of gets a shot sorta like that. With our getting one everybody seeing the dragons for the firm. Time. Right. There's also this next person talking says they're coming or enemy doesn't tire doesn't stop doesn't feel that could be it could be votes or John or like a lot of these guys that brogue, I'm talking husky tough guy talk fucking don't know. Yeah. It's impossible to tell whether it's Christian bale when you do the Batman, right? Right. Right. So that's that's happening Dany joins John Crips of winter fail. I surmise. He's looking at the statue of his father that's down there. That's been in some of the pre release the preview trailers and whatnot. But there are some theories that in the crypts of winter Phil specifically into two million stark there could be some kind of weird guild that indicates John's heritage like prince regards famous silver, harp or. Where'd you used where guild where guild what the hell does? That mean, something you get somebody like when during a death is like usually it's like something you take from an enemy when you die. Like like a payment because of the death. So it's like that the Starks would entomb this thing. But I don't think that's going to happen because they haven't established any of this shit. Like they'd have to hastily have seen like do. You know, your father's of beautiful playing of his Classic Silver harp and go laying harp to leanna, but this is the harp. But you just found though, you have the flashback factory of brand you do have. So you could really just do like an intense flashback every episode and get everything you need to sell. Whatever store. You wanna tell you do have that? You do have that Gingrich? Like, he is busy forging weapons and armor for the battle winter Phil he is doing all while running on a treadmill because he's gotta keep the cardio up grey, worm Masan, the share a really passionate kiss them. Eva battle, which was nice of the stakes. What we're what the living are actually fighting for here. There's a bad ass shot a brand savagely cleaning or way across. Battlefield. Just taking massive swings. The sword. This is the one. This is one is shrouded by kind of smoke and fire. And I wonder if it's not going to be like a battle of king's landing that because it just has a different look from all these stabbing shots about our winter winter fell, and I don't like I don't understand why. Well, I guess if you're fighting the white dude wanna set as many of them on fires you want or as you could. So maybe that would explain why that battle looks sh sh wreath inflame. But I mean, the dragons anywhere the dragons go true, there will be fun. It's gonna be perfect view. You're right. Then Jamie is screaming on the same battlefield. So that promises a nice, perhaps, Jamie and reunion. Finally, what's gonna think who care? Sir. See looking really smug again in the throne room of king's landing. I think the line where it's like the enemy doesn't doesn't tire feel? I think kind of lands on her smug face. We hear Jamie promising to fight for living and attending the keep that promise as it looks like he's making some kind of impassioned plea inside an interior room of winter, Phil probably do you think this is imploding allegiance to deniro or is this him explaining his actions to Bryn it. Oh because it's a small room. It's not like. Lords room or the hall or it's like a very small like an intimate setting. Yeah. Okay. Maybe. So I'm actually not sure who he's talking to you here. But it seems to be the winner fees thirty time, I watched it. I'm like, wait a second. This isn't a great hav winter fail. This is like this is like a Brian type of chambers. There's two dragons making a snowy canyon run. That's probably John Dany being bad ass. Dragon writers together a lot of can'ts that John's going to swing his his leg over a dragon aria smiles up in wonder probably at the coming dragons. Although she's would also probably react that way to giant Patil, Ian of unsullied coming her way to or maybe it's her seeing John like, she sees John Reid up at the head of this thing. That would also kind of explain that smile. There's a really bad ass shot of John standing before the gods would of winter fell at the height of winter. That is like a beautiful beautiful painting. We almost for the books had chase stone. We actually so if you don't know we got this. Chase stone renowned fantasy illustrator to illustrate are God's throne books and one of the things we almost had him do is illustrate like Ned the classic Ned sharpening his sword in front of that. And I'm like, you know, that's been done a lot. And also this shot a blown all that shit out of the water. So it's a fucking amazing shot. There is a shot of the hound looking on. This fiery red battlefield does that going to be his moment of awesome where we finally overcomes? Fear fire. It should be this is where I also think why might be king's landing because there's got to me. I'm not going to say because we don't have the sound effects prepped. Don't we? But there's got to. Okay, we got I've I've been given a go for the. Got to be the brothers meeting and fighting, and they're not going to do at winter Phil concerts, sitting that one out. And like if it would be the magically probe for the hound the half, the fight through his fear fire that was given to him by his brother holding his face to brazier their youth defeat him once and for all so yeah, that's that's my that's my thought on that. There is John leading a bunch of storming a gate, which is another reason why think this footage is more king's landing the winter, Phil. There's John Danny approaching dragons kind of over this burnt horde of animal bones that they've been feasting on sands looking pensive aria water dancing with the goddamn staff or spear looking like a world dervish, Danny try real hard. Look sad something she struggles with we'll see if she sells it in the full season, tearing looking serious dragon breathing fire right into the camera. And then like you said there's that shot of the insulted and Brin pod. Rod, and sir Giora and the mall kind of stealing themselves on the line of battle as a single decaying hoof steps onto the field that I can come. Yeah. Man winter. It's a really good trailer. I feel like they nailed the balance between revealing possibly too much and not enough yet because my to wet your appetite. We watched it together. I think our initial reaction is kind of like, that's it. But it's tricky doing two minute trailer when you're this deep and a story in when you're on the internet like people take that. That shit apart and have your whole season figured out. If you reveal too much. Yeah. So I thought it was a really masterful trailer to really get. I don't think. And that's a funny thing they have to get people excited for this. But anyway, and I've I've we'll talk about how we feel about this season. But I've always had in the back of my mind, kind of nervous that they're going to be able to do something that's going to kind of like, you know, satisfy everybody and make everybody happy and do right by George and at the very least they're going to go for broke on spectacle. Oh, yeah. So it's going to be something else. We're going to have really comprehensive coverage. And we hope you guys. Join us for all of it again. It's starting and just a few weeks. It is now the perfect time to subscribe to feed there's tons of stuff that if you again, I think we did a complete rewatch of season three since last time and two to three two and we've had a lot of time. Yeah. Off season. I think we finished filling out the entire back catalog. Yeah. So we have all of the game of thrones. 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648  Terence McKenna and Social Distancing

Psychedelic Salon

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648 Terence McKenna and Social Distancing

"Cheats greetings from Cyber Delic space. This is Lorenzo. And I'm your host here the Psychedelic Sawn and I want to begin today by apologizing for the misleading title of this podcast. Now it is true that you will be hearing from Terence McKenna in this podcast today. For example even though the stock was given over twenty five years ago he nonetheless does have a few things to say in this talk. That are well. They're still kind of pertinent right now. For example he says you know our idea of nature is that it's all and claw. Survival of the fittest. Take the hindmost. The new version of evolution is entirely different. It the way you attain survival is by making yourself indispensable to everybody else. So it's not by triumphing over the CO system but by integrating yourself so thoroughly into that it can't function without you. Then you're on your way to being a dominant two species not by crushing the opposition. But Terence won't be talking about social distancing in this podcast. I'm going to talk about that. Of course even that is kind of misleading. Because I'm going to talk about the opposite of social distancing which today means forming digital communities and getting together on lines and in my world. It's in ways other than through facebook now the reason. I want to add my comments at the beginning of Terence McKenna. Talk is that if I put my comments in a standalone podcast well not nearly as many people download it. That's just the truth but I think that you will want this information because I'm now hosting four live salons every week and you and your friends are invited to join us on top of that with some help from other salon owners. We now have a twenty four hour a day seven day a week chat room open just for the PSYCHEDELIC Salon. And those are the two things that I want to tell you about before I play today's Terence McKenna. Talk First of all. If you've been with us here in this line for Awhile you already know that for the past two years actually over two years. Now I've been hosting alive Salonen Zoom every Monday night until now I've had to restrict these live events to my supporters on Patriae on because Well not only the people who are paying all the bills for expenses associated with these podcasts. Well they're also providing a significant part of my rent now. Two weeks ago on our Monday night live salon. The participants asked if it would be okay to pass along these invites to their French and that seemed like such a good idea that I found a way to open these lines up to a much wider audience. You see when I first tried to do these live salons. I didn't know much about zoom and well. The first one that I opened up to the public at large was a real disaster. There were a bunch of young kids who thought that the word psychedelic meant that they could scream and curse and generally behave like morons and then there was a woman who started taking off her clothes. Well needless to say this event only lasted well less than ten minutes. Probably so for over two years. Now I've limited the salons to the four hundred or so fellow salon owners who on average are chipping in two and a half dollars a piece each month. Which in my situation adds up to the difference between podcasting and being a Walmart greeter and by the way there have been over one hundred other salon owners who have been able to help for a month or so and then there are other financial obligations prevailed and they had to suspend their donations for awhile but having been in that situation before myself. I certainly understand. I also remain eternally grateful for the help that they could provide now. Just a moment. I'll tell you how to find the log in information for these salons because I changed the link each day to prevent the chaos that opens zoom. Meetings can sometimes be but first. Here's the schedule for these events. Every Monday and every Thursday there will be to live salons each day. The first one is held at six thirty PM London time at six thirty at night in London. Time and right now since London isn't daylight savings time the US time for these For the First Salon on Monday is eleven thirty. Am Pacific Time and two thirty PM. East Coast Time and those two same times are Thursdays as well. Now as I've been doing for the past couple of years the day before a live salon I send a personal email to all of my supporters on Patriot. But that is impractical for these expanded lives on sessions and fortunately in just in the Nicot time net one of our fellow so honors has launched a psychedelics. Lan Server on dischord now if. You're a Gamer. Well then you're probably already familiar with discord and you can sing. Its praises much better than me. The truth is I looked into discord months ago. I didn't really understand how useful it can be for the non gaming world and rather than tell you more about it. My suggestion is for you to simply join us and look around. This free service allows private voice and chat video features so far only using the text mode and and through it. I've already learned about books and videos that not known about it for for example. I didn't know that Terence McKenna wants published a limited edition book of only seventy five copies which he sold for two thousand five hundred dollars each. The book is titled Cynthia and it is beautifully illustrated by commerce. Eli in color and thanks to fellow salon owner and participant in the salons discord family. You can now directly. Download a copy in PDF format from our books channel on discord. And this is also where I learned that Eric Davis New Book is now available in audio format. There's also a live stream channel where I learned about an Alex Gray livestream event that I was able to join that channel by the way is also where you're going to find listings of the livestream events that are now being planned and hosted by PSYCHEDELIC society all around the country. The Alex Salon Discord Server is also where I post the log. Information for each week's live salons there's a dedicated channel on our server for license. And that's where I'm going to be announcing the details. You're going to need to log in also in that space. I'll be letting you know when there will be featured guests will be with us for example on the six thirty. Pm Pacific Time. Monday salon on April six the filmmakers Niles Heckman and requiem will be with US talking about their new film which is the second episode in the Shamans of the Global Village series. This episode focuses on the Po take taxes and the cut that I've already seen which is close to the final cut is something I can recommend that you're going to want to see if you have any interest at all in indigenous culture and or in Peyote so How do you get an invite the salons discord server simple go to our main website at psychedelic salon dot com and near the top of that homepage just before the podcast? Listening and videos. You'll see a link that says join our live. Conversations on discords psychedelic Salon Server. Hits free simply. Click that link and you'll be taken to the sign up page. I hope to see you there. In fact I've already posted the logging information there for tomorrow to live swans. Well that's enough for me for a while. Now it's time to listen to a few words of wisdom from the Bard McKenna. Initially I intended to play the complete audio version of Terence McKenna. Talk that dream. Cloud middlemen closer to our discord server. Well talk is from a day long workshop at Claremont College in Southern California addressing the Young Society of Greater Los Angeles and It took place sometime in nineteen ninety one but has getting ready to post it for today. Some of my friends told me that they are worried about their data limits. Getting high and ask for the next few podcast to have smaller sizes so after I watched it online for myself. I realized that after an hour I was kind of burned out watching the video and turn it off just before the question and answer session but later after I listened to the Q. and A. Session. I decided to just podcast that here today and heavily at this workshop. All of the questions were written on little cards and not asked By long winded intros before they get to the question and this seemed work really well so now here is turns McKenna reading an answering questions that were on some of our minds back in Nineteen ninety-one since the MTA is present in the rain. Does the introduction of excess. Stay on tape. Shut down the production of Natural D. M. T. in the way that the body stops producing opiates during opium usage. If so what are the effects is really so perfectly chemically benign. I point to make. Is that many of your questions cannot be answered because into these areas is not allowed so off and we can't answer your question. This question does the introduction of excess emt limit and dodge production. I can say with fair confidence that that's never been studied. My guess would be that it does not because the D. M. T. is in no sense of the word you become habituated to D. M. T. I mean a person who does D m t once a year is a fanatically heavy user. I would say and the question is the Mt Really. So chemically benign again. This has not been studied the way you would study with rats and so forth to determine but experiential speaking the amazing thing about the MTA is the speed with which you return to normal you return to the baseline of consciousness in under ten minutes. Will that tells you that the brain is very well able to deal with this compound. One way of judging how talk sick drug or a plant is is to ask yourself the question how long after I take it do I feel completely normal. And with the MTA you feel completely normal fifteen minutes after taking. It's the shortest recovery time of any drug. This question is concerning the bundle. We'd while it does not directly meet. The criteria of long term use. Is it to be considered safe. I'd say the way to answer. That question is to do a chemical analysis of the bundle. We'd if there's nothing present but D. M. T. in it. I would think it should be considered safe now. There may be other compounds present in South America. It's possible to contrast to plants psychiatry of religious. Which has almost entirely nothing in it except d. m. t. as the portion of its alkaloid fraction or the role of Arolla Carthagena assists which is used in the making of snuff and chemically. It's a mess. It looks like they swept the floor. You've got in and EMT FIVE. Alpha methyl trip demean mono methyl trip domain six hydroxy. Methyl trip them all of this. You don't want you want a narrow the surgical strike on the CINEMAX. This what you're going for not splattering all kinds of junk all over the place What is the best medium for? Cilla Side Been Spore Germination Potato Guard. Or what the best medium is Rye Malt Gar? No question about it go with Rai. Organic Ri- Malt extract in today's climate talk about access to Chamonix pharmaceuticals for the average person. This is the where do I get it? Question dressed up in respectable terms. Well without being too self serving. We'll let me say my brother and I wrote a book on cultivating mushrooms called suicide than the magic mushroom. Grower's guide by OTIOSE and no end near Eric. I'm Otiose as you can see and I really believe in growing mushrooms If you are as you sit here not psychically strong enough for balanced enough to take Scylla CYB and then if you learn to grow at the end of that process you will be because growing the mushroom teaches you cleanliness. Punctuality attention to detail Steadiness all of these virtues which are the very virtues you need to travel smoothly in that dimension other. Halcion's other Shimada Calisthenics that you will find easily available to you without breaking any laws the heavenly blue morning glories sold in every seed store and garden store are not to be taken do not to take them. They have been dipped in fungicide. That will make you sick. Grow them and collect your crop and take that. And this is a major ascension of of great antiquity and extremely visionary The Hawaiian Woodrow's you kind of pain. This from the people who make dried flower arrangements often have these pay attention. You want. The Hawaiian baby would rose if they try to give you something called. Hawaiian Woodrow's a big clunky thing that is inactive and and won't do it. The tourists are freely available. I do not recommend the my recommend against them but they're a common landscaping plant in southern California and the gypsum. We'd of course is growing out in the desert out around Lancaster and other places like that There are a couple of companies which have very forthrightly decided to sell plants with a history of Shimon ick involvement. I have no stock. In these companies so I can recommend them without fear or favoritism one is called of the jungle up in Sebastian California and the other one is called Dream Gardens. And I think it's here in Santa Monica. These both of these groups publish astonishingly complete catalogs of psychoactive and Chamonix important plants. Okay that's access without going to the streets or committing crimes. Anything can you tell us any more about Illinois Bundle? We'd I just did And that's really all I can tell you manage. All these questions are the same question. Having convinced us of the wonder of emt what would be the easiest and quickest way to obtain this. How does one acquire the comment about the Supreme Court ruling? Against the use of Peyote by North American Indians Very bad law obviously lost so bad that the National Council of Churches the National Jewish Affairs Committee and some very large Catholic organization all filed briefs. Protesting this thing and I think that it was actually realized that it was a goof and it will be brought back in the. You can't bring something back to the Supreme Court in a hurry because then that's unseemly but I would bet that within five to ten years this will be overturned because a close reading of this law means that Wine for Pesach or communion could be construed as a psychoactive substance and the whole thing. It was just bad law. Bad idea has consideration been given to the possibility that in the case of certain plants which are recounted in writings but the identity is unknown that the reason they are unknown is because Shamans. Purposefully kept their identity a secret. Perhaps such secrets are still being kept. This goes to this question. I raised this morning. How can a powerful house-senate once discovered ever be lost? And I've only been able to figure out one scenario in which this could happen. It happens like this people. Discover a wonderful plant that imparts visions are incite or something and everybody takes it and enjoys it. And then slowly hierarchy emerges the professional class priests and only they they decree that only they will be allowed to take it and then they lowered it over at the rest of society with an iron hand and then the rest of the society gets fed up with that. And there's a slave revolt and everybody in the ruling class is killed and the sacrament is lost. I can't figure out any other way that it could happen. And the thing. This seems quite reasonable. Obviously Soma was being more and more confined in its use to a single class and then the class became viewed as obnoxious and its overthrow and the death of this sacrament than follow each other. Perhaps such secrets are still being kept. Perhaps they are. I the fact that this bundle of weed could turn up but so late. A date probably means that there are Shimon lineages with secrets that we don't know as a as a field ethnobotanist in an explorer. I'm always interested in unconfirmable. Rumor and there are some doozy's The mysterious Beagle from eastern Brazil which causes intense. Halcion agenda feet. And here's a career for somebody. No hallucinogenic insect has ever been found and yet there are persistent rumors in different parts of the world of either a butterfly or a beetle that is a hallucinogenic Cami. Most Shamans in the Amazon. If you spend five or six weeks with them and take a WASCO with them and trump around with them when you finally get to know them they will allow is how there is another magic which they call the matchy of the big trees and I've spent half my life trying to find out the names of the big trees and I'm still working on it. We have collectors in Peru and nothing is more exciting than a clump of root stock or a seed packet that comes across our desk labeled suspect how much and that that gets me to the edge of my chair. What do you think of Robert Munro? The journey out of the body man. This is a good time to discuss. What do I think of all these other things on the spiritual market I don't know what to think about them. I'm not a spiritual consumer. I've never been to a workshop. That wasn't my own unless it was free. And there's a lot of stuff out there. You Know Astro traveling channeling all of this stuff and I tend to either believe it's bogus or it's for people with psychic constitution considerably different from my own. Sometimes people say to me will be states that you're talking about. Can't they be achieved without drugs with the answer to? That is my God who would want to what what would be proved by achieving these things without drugs. If the things I'm talking about began to happen to me drugs I would be very very concerned and alarmed because you know I just don't And also I think there's something to be said for admitting that we cannot do it alone. That if you want this spiritual inside if you want the guy and Matrix to welcome you then humble yourself to the point of making a deal with the plant. That's the key you can't enter the bank without the key to the bank. The key to the bank is a plant jumping up and down outside. The Bank can exhorting the banker to recognize your inner worth note them. The door is just not not going to do it. I can understand that. Psychoactive alkaloids are survival mechanism for the plants. Why is that effect psychoactive in man or perhaps animal Well first of all. Maybe we have to argue with your premise. You're right that a lot of these so-called Secondary and tertiary compounds are elaborated supposedly to make things taste bad or so that words and we'll spit out things and stuff like that but on the other hand. They've studied this question fairly closely. And a lot of these alkaloids are produced specifically to attract animals to bring them in to neck and as pollinators and that sort of thing Old Style Botany always believes these compounds are what's called tertiary to metabolism meaning. They're kind of like waste products and not very important garbage. But when you look carefully at a psychoactive plant invariably what you see is that the psychoactive chemistry is going on. Metabolism is most active. This is an indication that actually these things aren't tertiary at all. They are doing something for the plan. But we don't know what it is as to why they have this peculiar effect that they do in us I think that's because there was anciently and over the evolutionary life of human beings actually a connection between San Nature and that these these drugs are the antenna the switches that switch us back toward the logos of of the natural world. I suspect that all of nature is seamless Web Farah Mona Lee mediated connections and interactions. And that we are just not yet at a sufficient level of analysis sophisticated dumpster vacation to see this interconnected web. You know our idea of nature is that it's all tooth and claw survival of the fittest and the devil. Take the hindmost. The new version of evolution is entirely different. It says the way you attain survival is by making yourself indispensable to everybody else. So it's not by triumphing over the coast system but by integrating yourself so thoroughly into it that it can't function without you then you're on your way to being dominant species not by crushing the opposition. let's see how we're doing here. What are deconstructionist's doing to our understanding of the language is it helpful by deconstructionist's I suppose You mean Jacques. Dairy and that crowd well. I think deconstruction serves a very useful function. I think we were unaware of Of what how thoroughly language is the medium in which we swim. How thoroughly our world is built of language in a way the boundary dissolving character of the plant Palestinians is a dissolving of language barriers. They show you that. The surface of reality was not the surface of reality. It was the surface of your local language. And now it's gone and and here is what lies beneath it. At what point in the evolution of organic matter on Earth? Do psychoactive plants appear? And why interesting question? If we're talking about psychoactive fungi were severely limited by the fossil record because no fossil mushroom has ever been found older than forty million years. This is because fossil. Mushrooms are very soft bodied ephemeral. Kind of things as primary decomposed. Which is what. Fungi are doing on this earth. It's reasonable to assume that they must have been here from the very beginning of the conquest of the land but proof in the fossil record is not been forthcoming now. If we're talking about higher plants flowering plants which is mostly what we're talking about here. Then no flowering. Plants existed before sixty five million years ago. Flowering plants emerged out as the same catastrophe that destroyed the dinosaurs and set the stage for the emergence of the mammals. This is something. People don't realize flowering plants are as recent as mammals. You know if you look at the. If the period of life honor this visualized as a yardstick the period of the flowering plants is the last inch and a half. And it's also the rise of the mammals occurs in that last inch and a half so before that the plant life on the earth was of a very different sort and we know nothing about its chemistry. Here's someone who asked Zen Questioning? What would make the present government interested in the study of psychedelics? I don't know if they could make a buck out of it. I don't think they're very interested in psychedelics. I don't think any political what I if they were very interested in except that they abandoned yes m. k. Ultra for those of you. Don't know stands for mind control spelled. The Southern Way mind-control Ultra was the program the CIA pursued in the one thousand nine hundred sixties where. They tried out all kinds of psychedelic drugs and they also worked with incumbent. Nation with hypnosis. They were trying to make what they called the Trojan horse. This was somebody who would be an assassin. But not even know it and how far they got with all of this. We will never know. Because of course it all disappears behind the walls of secrecy but the declassified history of the C. I. A. in Dallas D is very interesting. Some of you may know the book acid dreams by by Martin Lee Fascinating history of the way. The government tried and really failed. I think to use psychedelics. The the government's initial approach to LSD was This is great. This is a truth. Serum we can give this to enemy agents and they'll tell us all we know well a few months following that path. They decided no. This is an obscurity drug. We can give this to our agents and they can take it if they're captured and no one can learn anything and you know clearly. This was not a fruitful path. Either and I really. I don't fault the government. I don't really fault. The government for this after all the government is in the business of being the government. I don't think any institution can inculcate psychedelics into its own program because psychedelics destroy institutions all institutions. I mean it's like trying to move an asset there around that corrodes whatever pipes you pour it. Through and because the boundary dissolving quality of psychedelics is precisely the quality that government is involved in resisting government builds up labels hands out role models. Explains how everything is and this stuff just then melts that back into a primal chaos. So it's pretty corrosive of any social values that don't arise spontaneously out of biological organization it's anarchist to. It's the the van are key in a way. We're never going to get through this list. It's gratifying to know it's here if we needed. Here's a here's a question about the timeline of which I'm going to skip because we're not talking about the time wave today and Pity the poor soul who's never heard of it. No of any herbal sources to race Serotonin as a treatment for depression No I'm not I don't Know a lot about herbal medicine. And that sort of thing but Raising Serotonin levels treatment for depression seems like a pretty good strategy I don't know of herbs usually inhibition. Serotonin is what's going. On and with the psychedelics they do compete with Serotonin for the bond site. That's what the that's what it's all about. At the atomic level is in your synoptic cleft in the synoptic class of your neurons there are what are called receptors. And if you were to fly down and look at these things. They look like complex locks their hooks little drawers and fifth in places. Well then the drug molecule comes is carried into the SIMAP that cleft by the bloodstream and it seeks to what's called occupy the bonds site or simply bond and it's trying to fit in. Well the normal thing which fits. In those bonding sites is Serotonin. But some of these genes are much better. Fits THE NATURAL. Serotonin they are. What pharmacologists say competitive at the bond site and so they literally elbow the syllabus the Serotonin out of the way and then they fit themselves into the receptor. Once the receptor. And it's IT'S V it's agonists star in place then the biodynamic. The Bio Electric Field of the synapse can be activated. Well if you swap out Serotonin for an exotic molecule like harming or mescaline or something like that well then this shifts the mode of this molecular level electrical environment and I believe that that is what then registers as a higher court. Cool experience that we call the trip. It's the experience of hundreds of millions of these introduced molecules displacing the normal serotonin and then broadcasting the signal in a slightly different way than it is normally Preceived so there's a molecular connection. There's a connection down into the molecular level. This'll be our last one this morning. Language Transcendence Huxley Young and others often mentioned liberating and they lightning liberating and enlightening epiphanies as beyond language. An iconic imagery. You yourself mentioned this. Can you explain? Further the use of transcendental language. Yeah and we might talk about that a little the afternoon. I sort of alluded to at this morning. My idea is that language is a process that is half completed in us as we sit here and that language is really something which wants to be seen not heard but we are on our way to evolving toward this visible language and we currently are operating with the somewhat sub-standard acoustical codes. And I think in a way history is the process of getting out revealing defining refining this natural language the place where the psychedelics impact upon us social creatures is the language domain. I mean you may have tremendous HARAFA knees and breakthroughs. But if you can't talk about it or a paint about it or dance about it. Or in any way communicated to anybody then it is not efficacious for the species. It's just your private entertainment. So the domain of language is where the collective impact is coming and one of the things. I think about psychedelics that they probably capable of helping US force the evolution of language because we cannot move into the future any faster than are a language of description for the future so if we're interested in streamlining culture and getting away from the sort of random walk style of cultural evolution then we have to look at rationally interfacing with the evolution of language. And maybe we can talk about that when we come back. Thanks very much. You're listening to the PSYCHEDELIC Sologne. Where people are changing their lives. One thought at a time. Do you think that? Back in. Nineteen ninety-one Terence McKenna was already having a premonition that the day would soon arrive when the whole world would be on pause causing us all to begin thinking about ways in which to maybe streamline our new culture well since his talk was given over twenty five years ago. There's been some changes in some of the positions terrence had for example. I've seen some reports of microscopic fossilized fungus and there are also several revealing and really well documented books about M. K. Ultra among some of the other references that Turns made in this talk that can be brought up to date today however since you may have a little more time on your hands Right now I'm going to let you research that on your own. Who knows what interesting side trail so searches may take you on and let me say also that. I am well aware that some of our fellow salon. I don't have any extra time right now. They are the healthcare workers law enforcement and military delivery and warehouse people and everyone else who are the essential workers who are going to be keeping US safe in the weeks and months ahead? I love you all and deeply appreciate the sacrifices that you're making for all of us and for now this is Lorenzo but I'm not going to be signing off from Cyber Delic space instead I'm going to simply refocus. 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Streaming update - CBS, Vizio and HBO

Talking Tech

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Streaming update - CBS, Vizio and HBO

"Talking Tech is brought to you by Pitney bowes with send pro online from Pitney. Bowes it's just click send in save for as low as four dollars ninety nine cents a month and stay tuned after the show to learn about their special offer just for talking tech listeners. I've got a bunch of updates for you from the world streaming including a new look for the struggling. Cbs Access Service away to watch HBO ON YOUTUBE TD and Disney plus his finally finally on video smart. Tv's I'm Jefferson. Graham this is talking tech. Let's begin with. Cbs All access which began as a way to watch CBS. Primetime shows whenever you want to see them in crude also offer original programs like sequels to star Trek and the good wife all for five ninety nine a month or ten dollars monthly without ads now. Cbs looks to greatly expand the offering with movies and TV shows from the Corporate Library which also includes Paramount Pictures Nickelodeon MTV and vh one meanwhile for subscribers of Youtube TV the streaming cable TV alternative year won't have to go directly to the HBO now streaming APP TO SUBSCRIBE HBO. Because HBO CINEMAX and the new Hbo Max Streaming Channels will be available on Youtube TV for a separate fee beginning in the spring. And as I noted if you have a video TV and wonder why you couldn't see Disney plus on your smart td good news folks. Video has finally gotten with the program and found a way to get Disney on its platform with a software update. So what do I make all this well? Video makes fine. Tv's but I wouldn't buy one for the SMART TV aspects first of all. This is a closed platform that only offers specific channels to you. Yes you can get net flicks for but for months. No Disney plus in video sells through. Tv's cheap and makes the money on the back end by selling your data to marketers. That want to know what you're watching when and for how long so if you have a video tv I would switch to the apple TV streaming player instead because apple is way less intrusive about our data. Roku Amazon also sell the information to others for Youtube? Tv HAVING HBO available as an option. Isn't that big a deal? I mean it's already Oliver Roku Amazon as well. How often do you click to buy additional pay-tv channels? I know I never do for. Cbs All access. The programming infusion could not hurt. Why would I spend good money to get channel with on demand? Cbs Primetime shows the same. Ones I don't watch for free now. Cbs is now part of the Viacom powerhouse and has more programming at its disposal though. I don't see MTV Nickelodeon and comedy central having mctavish shade that they did twenty years ago but I could be wrong listeners. What do you think? Look for me on twitter where I'm Jefferson Graham. Even less than you talking. Please subscribe at the show wherever you listen to online audio and I'll be back tomorrow with another quick hit from the world of Tech. Usps shipping rates are increasing. So now is the time to save with Sen pro online from Pitney bowes starting at just four ninety nine a month with send pro online from Pitney. Bowes it's just click send and save for as low as four dollars and ninety nine cents a month. You'll save up to forty percents off. Usps priority mail plus for being talking tech listener. You'll receive a free thirty day trial to get started and a free ten pound scale to ensure that you never overpay no more time consuming trips to the post office send pro online from Pitney. Bowes allows you to print shipping labels and stamps right from your computer or schedule package. Pickups and track shipments all the way from departure to arrival. Plus you'll save up to five cents on every letter go to PB DOT COM slash talking to access this special offer for a free thirty day trial plus a free ten pounds scale to get started. That's PB DOT COM slash T. A. L. K. I. N. G. Experience a savings and your shipping costs with a free trial of Sen pro online from pitney bowes.

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Ep. 254 - Best of Habits | Gratitude with John Israel

The ONE Thing

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Ep. 254 - Best of Habits | Gratitude with John Israel

"DIFF- team members, asking you the same questions over and over again and you wish there was one place they could go to find all the information they need, so they can do their work and be productive. Whether is sweet. Process is software that enables companies to have a central place for all their procedures, processes and policies. This makes it easy for management managers in their ground level employees to collaborate together in creation of those processes, and it also makes it easy to continuously improve these documents together. Sweet process becomes the one source of truth. The one place where every employee regardless of their role can go to find information on how work is done. If you'd like to streamline productivity of your company, start by going to sweep process dot com slash one. Wall Street processed normally offers a fourteen day free trial as the listener of the one thing podcast. When you go to this url, you'll get an extended twenty eight day. Free Trial and no credit card is required. Simply visit sweet process dot Com Slash O. N. E. TO GET started. This is the one thing podcast where we teach you this pressingly simple truth behind extraordinary results. I'm your host Jeff. What's do you want to change the world? Start by saying. Thank you. Seriously a quick. Thank you note, or a simple statement of appreciation from one person to another can be that Lee domino that. Unleashes, a chain of gratitude impacts, allies multiple people. Aren't of you. Today is the first new series featuring the one things best of habits episode before we get into what habits have to do with gratitude. Let's talk about our next sixty sixty challenge on July twenty ninth are living your one thing. Community is launching our third community-wide sixty six challenge of two thousand twenty to form habits together. We know the path to getting everything you want starts getting one thing at a time, and when you choose to form a habit around that one thing, everything else becomes easier or unnecessary, which is why we invite you to pause this episode and open a browser and go to the one thing dot com slash habits to learn more about what it looks like for us to lock arms with you on your next sixty six challenge again. That's the one thing dot com with the number one in the Al. the one thing dot com slash habits. Still the path to forming life changing habits is not easy because changing your behavior is hard. That is if you do it by yourself. When Form Habits with a community of people that support you so much more becomes possible. The truth is folks. You're only one habit away from unleashing something extraordinary in your life. As. You consider which habit you should tackle next. We want to bring you. These episodes from people whose lives have been transformed. On accounts of the habits that they chose to establish. That brings us to gratitude today. You'll hear from a man who began a movement called the Mr Thank you project. They started with the idea that small acts of gratitude. And can change the world they operate with a simple objective to help. You may gratitude a habit, not just about writing it down in a journal or thinking happy thoughts, but by living gratitude as an expression in your life. We know this episode will bring value to you, so let's get into it with John Israel Aka Mr Thank you. Brings Back to when you first came across the book. What was going on in your life and? Thoughts when you read it. Yes, so I I came across the book in Two Thousand Fifteen and way back then I was a one of the top cut coke losing gift reps in the country, so I worked in the real estate space in essentially I helped people say thank you for a living in the corporate gifting world and I was really just looking for. Deeper meaning and everything that I in what I was doing. And when I picked up the book, it came recommended by a lot of friends, and I just loved the simplicity of it, and I can get easily distracted, and so when I picked up that book. Help me start to. Line the dominoes up to have a big impact. Start with something really small that one thing ended up becoming the MR, thank. You, project! which how did that all start? In? What does it mean? Yes the Mr. Thank you projects started kind of we have these moments in life when we look back in our past, and we can see and experience was very foretelling of the future right and for me. That was back when I was in nineteen year old college student. Selling. Cut Co Knives House to house back in San. Diego California where I'm from and it. It came out of a really unique experience where I had sat down with this woman named Cynthia, and she let me into our home and let me do my cut. Co Presentation for you know people don't know what that is. It's a knife company and. She was a nice lady. She let me do my presentations. You WanNa buy a modest. Of Product, but what I really enjoyed about her for any of you who are in business? Is that client? You just really connect with, and I just didn't even care how much she bought it. His really enjoyed getting to meet her as a customer. Know what happened. Though Jeff was that twenty four hours after meeting Cynthia, she calls to cancel. Order and I was really blown away because no one had ever canceled anything on me and my life at that point so I didn't know what to do or say, and she just asked me to cancel the order and I said okay. And it was took it a couple of days, but I kept thinking about or no still I was bothered by the fact that she had cancelled her. Ordering I didn't know why. And I remember can't tell you. Why did this? Jeff but I went to my mom's desk and I. Grab Stationary. and. I decided to write Cynthia a thank you card. And I said something to the effect of you know dear Cynthia. I just wanted to reach out and say. Thank you so much for taking the time to meet with me the other day. You know you opened up your life until me about your kids and your family and I just really enjoyed getting to meet who you are as a person in I. Know Right now is not the time for you to place in order. Order for any cut, co knives, but I wanNa let you know that I'm always fear for fear. Never need anything and Take Care God bless so I sent the note in the mail. And you know it was kind of interesting Jeff so immediately I to feel better like that all that stress that the pressure that frustration kind of went away after I wrote that note. The second thing that happened which really kind of catalyzed a lot of what I do. Today was two years later I'm at my college dorm room at Gonzaga. University in Washington State and I get this call out of nowhere. And I answered the phone and the woman the line says. Is this cut code John? I yet. That's what I went by back then and and I said Yeah. WHO's this and she says well. This is Cynthia I. Don't know if you remember me, but I tried to buy some nights from US several years ago and I was like oh my gosh of course I. Remember you sent the like. How are you doing? She says well I'm doing a lot better now and. I'm ready to place my order. If you're if I can still do that through I was like of course, what do you want? In Jeff, she goes on to list practically our entire catalogue over the phone, and she was going to buy an order that was about quadruple the size from when I originally met her, and I was really confused, blown away like. Why is this happening right now? And what? Cynthia asked me she said. You know John Dina I'm calling you right now. Said I've no idea. She says well because all those years ago when I had to cancel my order what I couldn't tell you. Is that I had just found out. I was extremely sick. So sick that I actually had to leave my job so sick that my kids who had just moved out of the house to be independent, had to move back into. Take care of me, and why really didn't want to cancel my order? I just had to because I I just needed to in the moment, and when I got your letter in the mail, I just saw that you've me as a human being more than just a customer and I told myself that when I get healthy a call. This kid I'm GONNA. Buy Every Dang Nike selling. And that's what she did and it was this really crazy moment because again. I didn't really write. Thank you cards much in the past, but in that moment is really saw that value of appreciating people for who they are regardless of you know if they buy something from me or just or or anything, just really valuing human beings, and that kind of catalyzed me to this idea that you know being appreciative in saying, thank you to people can have a tremendous impact in that kind of started this threat of consciousness. picked up a copy of your book in Two Thousand Fifteen. and. I was at that time in my life I became a gratitude salesman that was I was working corporate gifting world, so I would sell business gifts to businesses companies in I I saw this great ted talk. I'm sure you've seen it's called. Start with why by Simon Senate and he talks about. You know having a big vision in a big purpose in what's your y? You know I didn't have one and I was just like the struggling salesman trying to figure out the next step for me. I was married and had one child at another one on the way, and just like was really stressful so I wanted to find a way to have a big Y for my life, and so I thought well, what if my vision in mission was about elevating gratitude on the planet? And I came up with the number of seventy four million people right. Could we affect seventy four million people with gratitude, which is effectively one percent of the world's population. And, I thought that would be. That'd be such an exciting goal that I get behind, but then I thought about it, and there's a great quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson witches. P excuse me I can't hear what you're saying because who you are. Speak so loudly. And I just thought you know I'm this guy who says he's all about gratitude for my clients and for my business, but how to William Body it myself. So it's really sought like. How can I find a way like with the whole one thing concept and I was reading the book at the time you know. What's that one domino I could do now. That would allow me to embody grads you too high level that I can be an influence in the world for gratitude, and that's really where the concept of the project started in I remember that moment of giving Cynthia that Bancard and I thought. What if that's what I did? I just made a commitment to have a habit every single day to say thank you to somebody and. And I had a coach I work with the time, and there's rules came into the project, and he helped me kind of highlighting and clear about what we were going to do for a year. That's how it started, and it really kind of blew up from there, so I I'm very curious about this. Because about a week and a half ago, I started sixty six challenge. FM Alexander's people do not decide their future. They decide their habits and their habits their futures and I've realized that there's a ceiling over my achievement professionally, and personally because I don't do a great job of verbalizing my appreciation and gratitude for other. I do it entrepreneurially I. Don't do it purposefully or habitually, and so the one thing I wanted to turn into a habit was to say. A sincere, thank you to just one person a day when I naturally wouldn't have and in the last week and a half I've already fallen off the wagon. Completely fallen off and lost the momentum, which is bound to happen by the way when you go on multiple sixty six challenges over time I'm curious for you. What did that lead domino really look like at the beginning? Yeah. It's a great question because What I wanted to I'm big on. Habits is while there's a great book. There called the power of habit by Charles. Duhig you've heard of that. And he has something called a keystone habit, which a keystone habit is a habit that when you implemented a multiplying ripple effect, other habits of your life, having this this windfall of positive impact, and he talks about working out. If you work out well, because you work out, you need to drink more water right and because you're drinking more water your healthier, but because you're also working out, you wind up getting more rest at night because you're. You've exercised your body's. You need more sleep so just naturally. There's all these positive benefits from that one habit. So for me with gratitude I thought okay. Thank you cards I've seen the impact that felt felt the impact in my life, and I've seen how affects others? So what if that was the habit so I wanted to find? That's where rules were with had to come into play so. The question number one was. How many cards are you gonNA write everyday for a year and I thought we. One car today, but to me like I don't think that'd be very inspiring. to other people I think there's a lot of people in the world who do that and I thought well. What am I? Wrote handcarts every day. And that I. Don't think they'd be very good. I don't think they'd be very authentic like you talked about having an authentic. Thank you to somebody. So then I thought I, thought about five and I thought you know five. It was at goldilocks moment right like felt right my good number to go after ends, and that's what I started, so the rules became into play where I I would handwrite five cards every single day for three hundred sixty five consecutive days, cards had to be handwritten, right that was the second role at cars had to be handwritten. be a text or email or a video message. Message which I don't think you're bad by the way I think they're still good, but for me. I wanted to have something I could track right one thing to focus on the the. Thank you cards I could write a Max of three cards per person, and that was to challenge myself to really look for the good in every day like finding people to appreciate that way wouldn't wind up writing seventy five. Thank you cards to my wife right because. I really appreciate dinner last night. Thank you, yeah, exactly right and then the The cards had to be written everyday everyday. Reset zero, so meaning I couldn't do thirty five. Thank you cards on Sunday. The every thought every day reset zero in the final rules when that kind of surprises people which is for any and every I miss. I would do two thousand dollars to charity. Pause. What. Yeah. How did you come up with that? So the the way that that rule sued the the final rule came up because I had a coach. I work with at the time, and his question in me was about accountability. Right and that's what you guys. With the one thing, how do you make sure you're gonNA follow through, so he said what happens. If you miss a day like I love that you're excited about this, but how do we make sure you follow through? And I said well, tell you what if I miss. A day will donate one hundred dollars to charity right now. He's all excited about that and he said add a zero. Zero by the holiday, why would I add a zero to that a thousand dollars? You made giveaway thousand dollars every day. I miss. He's like why don't want you to have to give away any money, but let me ask you this if you are. How likely is it throughout this year? You're going to donate one hundred dollars or a few hundred dollars charity. As well, yeah, and that's part of our tithing process. That's what we do, so he's like well. How likely you're gonNA miss a day. If if what's at stake is a thousand dollars. And I said none is like all right now zero, and so that was my forced accountability that that's what was a steak every single day every day parade entire year, so let's fast forward to the end of the year. How much how much money did you donate? None? You didn't miss a single day. Now. Five notes a day every day, and it's not like you could batch him in do thirty five on Sunday because you want to get it done for the week Yep, so let's let's talk about how you have to manage your time because this is where. I in this is very relevant for me over the last week and a half, because even though I started my sixty six day challenge in got three or four days in, and did it. Every single day I realized the days that I missed Two things were lacking one. I didn't proactively identify who I wanted to thank, and I didn't have time blocked. Yeah. So that that's a great question because there's a few, there's two things that come into play. If you notice like in the in the whole setup of this, it wasn't like one day I decided. Hey, I'm just going to write five. Thank you cards everyday for year. Right, What people here nestles. There was about a two week timeframe from the idea of this whole concept to working with my coach, making the plan setting the rules in place in having the accountability that by the time I said Okay they won October tenth, two, thousand and sixteen I was fully committed and I think that any I think anybody can have that. can have success with a commitment if they take the time to. To get really clear about the rules of winning the game. What Game Are you playing number one. What are the rules of that game? And how do you win and I was very clear, right I had to handwrite by every day, and couldn't miss a day. Max of three per person in a thousand bucks at stake every day. I mean it was very clear for me how I won or lost every day and. The second part that was behind that that I think health, stay on track was. The. The background emission inside of it was to explore my capacity to experience. And Express gratitude right like I had a really profound experience all these years ago, but I want to really dislike. I want us to be a discovery type of experience, not just. In a in for people who you know if you read the book, the I put pictures of the cards that I would write. People the end because there are pretty long. It wasn't just like Hey, thank you so much for copy the other day, right? It was like hey. I was really reflecting on her experience. We had a coffee and I loved how much you share with me about the story with your children in how committed you are to changing your work lifestyle just to do that shows me. You're such a leader as a husband as a dad, so grateful to have you in my life, and is anything I can do support you on your mission. Please let me know. Right, like that is a different card to receive than just like hey, thanks for taking the coffee the other day. Yeah, and you mentioned your. You mentioned the book, but what Book Are you referring to yet? So what happened was the this experience had crazy stories like so many unexpected experiences with people with complete strangers writing. Thank you. Cards had a profound impact on me. I wrote a book about it, so it's it's called the Mr Thank. You project. You can buy it on Amazon, but that's where I just try to capture as many stories because there are so many unique things that. I mean honestly Jeff they were. They were life. Changing which I think is a big key with having a habit. Right is that it's not just having a habit to just do something more, but it's to become something more new. It's to do something that changes who you are at your core, because you have to go through it and and that's. That's really the transformative power of a habit. Yeah, well it when we go back to. The, purpose of a goal altogether, it's not to achieve a result. It's to be appropriate in the moment. Based on the goal. The result that you do want you have to ask. Who's the person I? have to become and once you identify what that type of person is. It's OK well, if people don't decide their futures, decide their habits and their habits decide their futures. What's the habit I can form? That would turn me into that type of person, so that would be appropriate in the moment. Absolutely. So before we would love to hear some some of the crazy stories I before. We do I want I want to get really clear on what you had to do. In terms of managing your time, because the stakes are high, it's a thousand bucks a day. Writing Five, thank you notes a day the way that you scripted it out. That's not insignificant. Did you start the find that there were certain times a day that we're best for this? What are the things stopped the really threaten to stop you from. Accomplishing your goal for that day talked about that. Yeah, so This is a great question because one of the things that I think people miss on the component of accountability and commitment is making sure that they have the support around them. So this isn't. I didn't start the year and tell everybody okay. This is what I'm doing for. The year posted on facebook because he will do that like you see and take a photo at the gym like three days in a row they do that and then you don't see it for a week and then a couple of weeks, and then they're back to normal. So I. I really didn't want to be public I. wanted to let the people who are closest to me now, so like my coach that I work with. He was accountable to him, and in one of my wife's. No, because it was going to impact our I didn't know how because I didn't know how long this was going to take so many variables. The I didn't learn until later so number one, Jeff. It took me an average of an hour and a half per day to write these cards because I wanted them to be meaningful. And so I would try to if I could deer threat I didn't do it first thing. It just didn't work for me that way. I tried a few times, but I couldn't do it. It just wasn't wasn't consistent with it. I would try to knock out. Three three of them before I was done with work. Typically try to be done by five so I would deride him to a client here. There I'd have a great phone call with somebody that's in it that way, if I had lunch with somebody to send it that way, and I would try to all of them done when I come home after everyone went to bed so that that was my ideal time when no one was awake, and that's how I typically finished it sometimes I up doing all five of them before I went to bed. But that's That's kind of how I time block. It wasn't the same consistent every single day, but it was. It was going to happen. No matter what. Time is the most valuable asset we have, but the tools we have to manage time a broken. 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How do you be grateful when you don't want to be? And I'll give you a story as an example so I had this experience of a a really terrible day out in the field so. Out, meet with clients and you know just didn't work out. Well. Write. Client canceled the meeting. decided to drive wiping in bumper to bumper traffic, and I'm getting home early, so I can work on my thank you cards, and like have dinner with my family. No usually I would text my wife and say hey. I'm coming home early of now. This time we had a two month old, and then a two year old at our house. So I come home. I put the key in the door. and. Immediately, our dog barks right and then when I opened the door, one of our sons, a two year, old starts screaming because he was in a nap, and then my wife is nursing the other child who's about asleep, and then he wakes up and he's screaming so now I've got a barking dog, two screaming children, and then my wife staring at me with laser beams, coming out of her is like. Why are you home right now? and. I GotTa go write, thank you cards now right like on top of having a terrible day, and then feeling like a ruined my wife's life, right? So I just I went up to my office and I sat down grab some stationary out and I thought of who I wanted to write my cards to which was in business associates from way back when and I couldn't do it I. I literally could not get myself into a grateful state. I just couldn't write words that were authentic with the with the value and I was just so emotional, so cut up that literally the only thing I could think of was just an emotional management strategy which was I. Turn The lights off in my office I. Laid on the ground and I process the day. And I let all the emotions come up, and all the thoughts in all the ears and everything. I just I just sat. There are lay there and just let everything kind of drill down to the bottom like they do with the snow right when people are emotional states like shaking up a snow globe. They're all over the place, but it's in that silence in in that pausing. That things start to settle down and we can see clearly. And then I stood up I grabbed my journal. And I wrote some notes about what I was thinking. What I was feeling. What I was afraid of that ruined. My is am I not going to be successful business because they had this bad day. No, I'm going to be fine. That ruined my wife's life. Are we going to get a divorce now of course not. UPSET, she'll be fine. Okay great! What's important now and I just got really focused and I thought about the people. I cared about and I wrote the most amazing letters in about half the time normally took. And I say this. Because what was there was the commitment preceded the emotions meeting like I was willing to go through the emotional pain and the processing to get to the state. I needed to be, and that was one of the challenges in the thoughts in the background was. Can I live every day with a grateful heart? And what I learned is it's hard to live all day like that, but I can get myself into that state, and that is a powerful tool. How to move yourself through an emotional process to get to the other side because that's what you're committed to, and that's the where the value lays, and it's like in that in the in the commitment. That's like the crucible of learning. That's where the learning comes from when you have to go through the pain of I. Don't WanNa do this, but I'm committed well. I'M GONNA. Do This I. Don't know how to do this well. Well, you can't get out of this now. Figured out, okay. What do I know? I'm not in a good state I wanna be grateful, okay? How do I know I'm just really upset? Would I know meditation practice? Right lay on the ground process. Take some time, and so it just kind of forced me to be responsible for my commitments. Yeah I love that in the parallel that I will will draw as how many of you. Have ever been moving through your days where things just get crazy. Things are popping up. There are fires everywhere. There's chaos. Your your email box just keeps building. People are constantly distracting every time. You feel like you're about to get into the zone. Somebody's pulling out of it and you just feel like the day is a loss. When I'm hearing, you say John Is. It's in those moments. That, it's not just okay. Let's just close email us. Just do there one thing. I heard, you say. You found a space religious boss. You could just brief. You could process. You could let your snow globe. Settled down. In in that. You could ask the question. What's the one thing I can do? Such that by doing it. Everything else would be easier or necessary. Identifying that lead domino getting up and whacking away at Intel, a false before we dive into some of the stories that you have John I. WanNa ask you who's listening to this based on everything. You've heard so far. What is that keystone? Habit it. You're currently missing. That if you formed it. Not only would it just make everything else easier necessary, but it would start to have this halo effect where shines down in other areas of your life. And if you're not in the middle of sixty six challenge, one would be a good time free to begin that. If. You have no idea what sixty six day challenge is or you're looking. You want a little bit of a basic understanding of it. If you go to the one thing dot com, that's the number one in the URL visit the training page you will see. We have a basic course on how to kick-start power habit with a sixty six day challenge. It's free. It's less than fifteen minutes. Minutes, it'll give you all the information you need to get started. Go to the one thing dot com, click on training page, and you can start there, and you can also by the way for those of you who you keep hearing John Coming back to this idea of a coach. You can learn about one thing coaching there as well and explore. It's feel so. John Cher Cher of. The stories that have come out of you writing these, thank you notes every single day. Yes the the day. That always stands out for me was day three of the project. So you know one of the interesting challenges people ask is who do you write these cards to right? And if you haven't done the math yet, so five ninety cars times three hundred sixty five days is one thousand, eight, hundred twenty five letters of appreciation. Now had started this by writing a list of everyone I could think of that I knew. I wanted to thank on the front end, so like my family and my friends, my pass mentors, coaches, leaders, managers, and I had a list of three hundred and fifty people while still very different than eighteen, hundred and twenty-five so I. Try to leave as much of the day open to really being receptive to who do I want to appreciate and I was boarding a plane from at that time Los Angeles to Philadelphia for something called the Front Row Dad's retreat. Which I know you're you're actually involved in. This is one of the. This was the first event front row. Dad's ever. Hosted in if you don't know what that group is a group of entrepreneurial men who get together twice a year to learn how to become better husbands to our wives and fathers to children, what we run our businesses, and this was the first event and I was boarding the plane and thinking about who don't want. Appreciate today and. I thought about the pilots. As I fly all the time and I I always pray for safe travel to date one hundred percent delivered. Over that and I've never taken the time to appropriately. Thank them for what they've done. And so I realized okay. That's who I'm going to think. So board the plane. And then I asked a flight attendant, but the pilots names. In which then learns a very awkward question to ask a flight attendant because they're like? Why do you need that and explain was going to write a thank you card and she was cool with it after that. So I got the names of the pilots and sit down, and a really interesting question came up, which is sitting down got thank you cards open. How do you say thank you? To a complete stranger. How do you appreciate someone that you don't even know? What I learned the whole studying of this concept of gratitude and appreciation is at the the word. Appreciate has the Latte the Latin root of that word as a Preti IRA, which means in Latin to appraise or to set the value of a thing. Is If anyone here. If if you've ever sold the house or property, one of the first things you do before you can sell it appraisal. An appraisal you have someone come out and they've got their list of questions and they look at the roof. They look at the walls, the water heater the neighborhood, and they give you a a an a piece of paper this as I believe this property, the to be worth this much. So then, how do you apply that to a human being? And what I learned Jeff is that you just become curious. Who is this person? In, what do they care about? What are their values? What are their biggest goals. Would struggle with the most. And I thought about that, and this is the letter that came out. and Said you know dear pilot I. Know might seem strange to receive a card from a passenger, but as I was boarding the plane today I realized how much I missed my family. And then I realized. This is what you do every day for your job. I can't imagine how many birthdays anniversaries special get togethers. You have missed because of us. The passengers I mean you've probably been wanting to do this job since you were a little kid because nobody becomes a pilot by accident. And all that to have some challenging weather, and maybe a rough landing, and then have people complain about it. So whether you hear it enough or not as more, thank you on behalf of myself in everybody on this plane. And I put that into an envelope, and to those cards and I was getting off the plane, and I handed to each of the pilots, and then it was a two legs two legs of that flight so I did it again on the next place I, did I basically gave out four. Thank you cards to pilots. And what was unique about the scenario I don't normally do this, but the it was my business stationery, so had my name my email. My phone number printed on already I couldn't take it off. And the Jeff. This is what was crazy. In within twenty four hours, three out of those four pilots personally contacted me via email or text message to say. Thank you for the card that they received. One went on to say you know John. Twelve years of flying I have never received a thank you card from a passenger. So thank you. And just blew me away. Man Because I'm like. How is that possible? There's you these people have such big significant. Such important jobs in nobody is taking the time to thank them. Man If that's the case for these guys. What about everybody else in their lives in their jobs? Their marriages like there's a real value here. So we land in Philadelphia and I go to the first day of the front. Row Dad's treat. We have a great time at that. At that event. It was the first ones we about thirty five ish guys at the event. And after the first day we'll go to a bar slash restaurant. The world series is playing like. Let's watch it and hang out and just in fellowship because we'd never most of us had never met. So we sit down where we we walk around downtown Philadelphia we find this hole in the wall bar we walk in. The. All the regulars were sitting at the bar, stopped and looked at simultaneously like we were spectacle. Because we were, we had no reservations. We weren't supposed to be there and the one waitress, one waitress that was there looked at us, and she not saying anything, but you could tell on her face. It was just like yellow, just ruined my night. Right like I getting ready to go home because it's a slow night, but we're going to keep it there all night. So her name Sean Tae by the way, so show a shawnise in our own separate room, so we don't bother everyone else. and doing amazing job. You're really warms up to US cracking jokes. Having a great time, she took all of our food orders Oliver drink orders by herself and got everything correct I mean. I was blown away. Probably the best way has ever seen. And I realize like okay. She's my number five. She's my final card for the day. So I, grabbed some stationary. Which I keep it me with me at all times at that point and I write a simple note that essentially says. Dear Sean. I JUST WANNA. Say Thank you for the amazing evening. You helped create tonight. We're here. We're here for an entrepreneurial men's retreat to learn how to become better husbands to our wives and father's toward children, while running our businesses in tonight was all about fellowship and getting to know each other, and we know we shut up with no reservation, and you could get a terrible service or even turn us away. You didn't in fact. You're outstanding. One of the best servers I've ever had and I just WANNA. Say Thank you on behalf of myself. Everybody in our group because you made tonight. Special signed John. Israel, in the Front Row Dad's. So. The letter and the envelope and I walked over to Shanta. She's standing in the corner of the bar or the restaurant that time and cashing out her tips in her. Thank you card and she accepts it awkwardly. As most strangers do when I hand them a thank you card. I start to walk away and I'm like you go to the restroom for so I make a U-TURN. Go back into the bathroom. And come out and Shanti standing there like waiting for me. She's got this big grin on her face, and she just runs at me and gives me the biggest bear hug of my life, and says that is the best tip that I have ever been given. And then she sat me down. There was a big hug and we just sat there and looked at each other, and they is maybe for only three seconds and it wasn't. Customer Server. It was human being human being. And that's where I really saw the value. Of this whole Mr, thank you project. It wasn't about writing. A lot of cards is about learning and understanding one of the deepest human needs that is unexpressed meaning. People won't tell you. They want this, but deep down inside. which is to be seen in seen for their greatness rather than their weakness. because. There's something called. Negative bias. It's psychological term as human beings were naturally prone to notice. What's wrong with situation than what's right in that serves us in challenging situations where we need to like fight or flight right, but in regular everyday life it doesn't really service in the concept of relationships. So when you shift the habit of looking for what's good. What's great? What's right? What's beautiful with a human being? And then you take the time to tell them? It like their soul up lifts, and they become the best version of themselves, and I saw that so many times writing these letters to people and I was only day three like you can imagine three hundred sixty two more days of this, and they weren't always as profound is that day? But that was a very telling day that day when I was done and I walked to the hotel in the Cold Philadelphia now. I was just like in tears. I was like any moment for me, Jeff. That was doubting I might be able to finish this like the fear. Can I find this many people to appreciate? Not Can I, but I have to. This is such a need in the world. That I gotTA. Do this every single day for this year. Yeah, that's that's what kicked it off. Man I love it man so. What would you suggest to somebody that if they're going okay I? I love this. I want to do this and they want to begin their own sixty six challenge around expressing gratitude. What advice would you give them? Yeah, that's a great question so what I recommended. People because I speak at a lot of conferences now in sharing the story, because now that we've surpassed this whole idea for a year. Right wrote the book about it now fortunate to get to speak stages, and that's how we met as I I met a J. pop is on at Ted. And I meet people, and after they hear the story. They're like oh my gosh. I'm going to do that. I'M GONNA write five cards every day for a year. And, they're surprised by reaction because they say. Don't? Really Hard, you gotta be super committed at a high level to do it, and and you know what I've learned is. You can get just as much value if you committed to doing one a day. One a day every day for thirty days, sixties are big on the sixty six days, so I actually have a shout. Can I give it a challenge to the? Okay so if you go to Mr, thank you DOT COM! That's M. R. Mr. Thank you, Dot com slash thirty. You can download a thirty day challenge and here's what you'll do. You'll print it out and then cross up thirty and then his right sixty six. But it's the same because the whole concept is when you understand this. The simple process gave examples of these cards that I've written so like. Here's the language I used to. Here's what to think. 'cause there's different types of cards. It wasn't always thank you. Sometimes. It was I. Love You, so it was I'm sorry sometimes is like this is what's great about you as a human being in a big knowledge, -ment right so there's a lot of different types of letters in communication. You can give to people so I would say pick a number that small in manageable that you could do in commit to. Make a sixty sixty challenge out of it and just notice how you feel. And that's a big thing that I know. We're friends with how elrod in the? He gave me this health challenge one time where he was. He's big on eating Vegetarian Rob Vegan type stuff. He said just do this take. Just eat one raw vegetable a day. And then just notice how you feel. After an every food, you eat to set a fifteen minute timer, and then when it goes off, ask yourself. How do I feel? And then you'll start to notice the Association of how you feel based on what you just did in. Your body so that I would say the same thing with gratitude. If you took a moment to just write a car to somebody every day, and just thanking them, and it could be a client could be a friend or family member. It could be anybody complete stranger, and is not how you start to feel, and then if it serves you and keep it up. You'll have days where it's not level ten like some of the crazy stories shared, but here's the grazing some with this whole gratitude concept. It comes back so much. Deeper in further and later because sometimes will ride car to somebody I. Forget about it, and they call me back like a month or two months later like all my gosh man. You don't even know how much that meant to me is a perfect time and. You never know. In, so start with one card every day and pick a number of days. Sixty six is a great challenge Yup. I love it. I love it. Folks. With all episodes we'd love and honor the fact that you're here. You invested your time listening to this and you know the results will come when you put it into action so everything you've heard in this episode. What's the one thing you can do? Such that by doing it. Would make everything else easier or unnecessary. Get clear on that one thing. Then open up your plan or your digital calendar time. Block that one thing so you know when you're going to get it done, and when that time block is here. Protect it. And get your one thing done. It starts there. John, people are more about you. Yes so best way to find me is Mr. Thank you dot com, so m. r., thank you, Dot Com, and then my handle pretty much everywhere facebook INSTAGRAM. Twitter is at the Mr. Thank you, so that's it love it. Love it. There you have it our conversation with John Israel. Out of everything, you heard in this episode. What's the one thing you can imagine forming a habit around? Whether you D- Opt a daily ritual to list, which you're grateful for or right consistent. Thank you notes for people who impact your life. A keystone habit of gratitude can become as second nature as breathing. When thoughtful formerly expressed gratitude is instinctive. You're more likely to share it with everyone you meet. You can turn one small act of gratitude into a daily habit. They'll focus you and build your resilience for whatever's to come. We invite you to join our living your one thing community today, so that you can get the support of other gratitude minded leaders and form a habit with them. Our next sixty six challenge kicks off in just a few weeks on July twenty ninth. Don't miss the opportunity to form a gratitude habit that could transform your life in those around you. You can learn more by going to the one thing dot com slash habits. If this episode has brought value. We want to issue a challenge. Think of one person. You want to express gratitude today. Cinemax tell them how grateful you are for them and consider sharing this episode with them as well and ask them to pass it along. If you're new to the one thing podcast, make sure you click that. Subscribe Button so all future episodes are automatically downloaded. Cheer device of choice, and while you're at it. Will you consider leaving US rating and review on your podcast player? 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