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How To Bet the $119,514.12 Pick 5 Carryover Nov. 20 at Churchill Downs

How To Bet Horse Racing Podcast

26:50 min | 1 year ago

How To Bet the $119,514.12 Pick 5 Carryover Nov. 20 at Churchill Downs

"This is the how Tibet horse racing out of that horse racing. Podcast today Joe. Christopher joins us to preview Wednesday's pick five at Churchill downs. Now here's your host Ed the Rosa. Welcome to a special edition of the. How bet worth racing podcast? Today it's House Bet. Five on Wednesday November twentieth at Churchill. Downs always good place to play pick with fifteen percent takeout but with one hundred nineteen thousand dollar carryover into the late sequence. Wednesday should be the biggest pool of the day. And who better to help you handicap and bet this sequence in Churchill downs own public handicapper Joe Christopher Joe. I appreciate the time. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. I liked the racism the sequence which is always a good start just hoping to get some rain on ones out Tuesday and Advanced Wednesday. Really hoping worry we stay on the turf because obviously things can change. If don't yeah And I I am handicapping for turf. It looks like the chance of rain. Hopefully small enough. That won't be an issue but Looking at looking at those main track onlys especially in grade. Seven would definitely changes the whole complexion of the sequence in my approach to it but We'll we'll keep the fingers crossed On Turf It's it's been not a competitive meet which we expected joe based on the purses and the the breath of horsemen that Ben Huffman attracted to the stable area D. Did you see the result Sunday? I wasn't there Did did you see him? As chaotic is the pick. Five players did unable to solve the puzzle. Or One of those situations you go back and say man. If if I would've done this maybe coulda gotten there was kind of your thought on Sundays of played-out. Well I mean you say competitive. I say tough. I mean isn't it a tough? I three four hours at least per card and not even to mention all the work. Do watching replays in advance of even getting started on a card and it's just been picking raw winners has been tough. There have been some of these sequences at and you know this because we go over this every day on. Churchill downs today in during the course of the car before the single six starts. You know there's been some six eight thousand dollar payoffs you know. That aren't full. Pays where you look back at it and you like to call connecting the dots and that's exactly what it is where you say to yourself man. If I played this the right way on a hundred and twenty dollars a ticket I could hit this. But you know it's frustrating because of you don't hit so many days in a row the new get discouraged but at the same time it just takes one. I mean if you play one hundred dollars in these single sixes and I know we're talking about the pig five kind of lumping them together and you do it. You know twenty thirty days in a row without winning and then you hit one the pay six thousand. I mean you're still making huge profits so this is a long term thing. It's tough not to get discouraged. The races have been tough. They've been competitive but one of these days. You're going to connect the dots the right way whether it's in the single sixer of course on Wednesday and the big five carryover and is going to be well worth your while. Also try not to get discouraged. Don't not put the work in and out of these days everything's GonNa sink up. Yeah for me. It's The the mantra ride preached to myself Stole it from College Sports? Or maybe it's I stole from coaches is trust the process. And if you believe in your handicapping You know it's GonNa come around if you're in a slump in if you're hot ride the wave I'm not hot right now. But I feel like I've made made some good observations here there and good picks it. You know maybe having come out on top but I'm excited to play because this is an opportunity as you said Even if you've thrown some money at it some of these sequences and not come out This this has to pay in between the carryover. The competitiveness races The full field It's GonNa be worth your time Speaking of time let's waste no more getting into the sequence it starts with ray six Just after three thirty PM EASTERN JOE and I have to say right off the rip. I'm looking to to beat these favorites in Enra- six I don't trust from war or deletion holidays Much to be honest with it while from morals one for ten and I believe in Allah is worse. Right I mean is one from one twenty at the worst I picked on top. Is the five goose drank wine? Who Run some good route races? In the past. He came off of a couple month. Layoff to go seven furlongs. Last time there was a loose speed horse day kind of ran evenly around the track but now stretches back out. He's tend to one in the morning line. You know. This is a race where I'm going to use a few of them. I mean it's tough not to use those two favorites you mentioned Candy Stores and other horse. I mean Tom. Emas hasn't been running the barn at this meet but he certainly knows which horses to run. Because he's over thirty percent. Tyler Gaff Leon. Mr November is on candy store and that last racism. The slop the race prior with seven. Furlongs the racist prior to that were turns on synthetic turf and those Those races match up. Well if he's able to convert form over to the main track even if it rains a little bit on Wednesday add we know Thursdays on Tuesday? Wednesdays forecast looks good. You know that you can handicap for a fast track. So I think that's a good place to start in these dirt races. You can be pretty confident of the track will be fast. And I think he can be pretty confident that it's GonNa play fairly or maybe tilt a little bit towards off the pace types which we've seen a lot this meet over under such circumstances so those are choices definitely gonNA use. That are GONNA fly a little bit under the radar and We'll we'll see what happens the first five races I think. Four main track with speed But Wild About Candy a candy store as well but while about candy would be the one for me that we haven't mentioned yet Big speed threats stretching out another twirling candy But Barkley Rocco WOP He hasn't had a great great but he didn't WanNa steaks and this one dropping slightly and with speed. I thought was pretty dangerous as well. I think we both agree that we're trying to beat the favourite here. You know you can get really ambitious and leave the favorites out. Go with three or four other ones in hope for the best. We both know everybody likes to be alive. After the first race of the sequence. That kind of player. You probably gotta go five deep. But we'll have to wait and see our opinions check out the rest of the way right Well we Hopefully will be on turf and it's super interesting. The the seventh race is it's actually an allowance race for two year olds She don't see a lot of and Ben Attraction fulfilled here So really compelling And I went with Mister November and this spot for we talk about how many trainers he rides for Ken mcpeek that's number four morning gold. I just think a repeat of that Saratoga race. Three back wins this. Yeah one of many that you can use. I've actually got that horse buried but would not be surprised to see that horse win at all. I think it's interesting to note. Maybe not not so much for Wednesday but moving forward through Thursday Friday and into the weekend. We are in lanes three on the grass. And I believe it's for the first time this November me we're going to have fresh pats of grass from lane three all the way out but once we get to the point where that grass is worn down over the course of several days running over it. Those outside pass are going to be so much better than the inside passage. We've seen it here in November. I've seen it at fairgrounds. When the rail is way out you tend to get some outside closers that win when the turf is like that. I wouldn't profile the turf ahead of time necessarily like that for Wednesday but it's something to take note of what would as Bailey is a top pick your third behind sweet. Melena and another horse could draw off the also eligible and white as they were third and second respectively from way off the pace and as Bailey was hung nine wide on the turn sustain that bid which I found to be Impressive Why TASR OF THAT. One draws an off the also eligible list. I'm interested in how ironic at a big big price. Putting the blinkers on one. I'm interested in and then the tourists on the inside pass the plate and across. They both makes sense as well. This is a very competitive to other than this is certainly a race. I'M GONNA SPREAD IN. Got a couple of stronger opinions later in the sequence so. I want to get past this one. Even if it's five or six to one shot yeah and I thought wax and Ginger Kitty. Ten to one on the morning line. had look to them Both capable of being close to the pace which as we've noted on the TURF. Churchill has generally been positive since September mate yet generally although the last couple of days we've been on the turf. It's gotten to be a lot more fair one word lane three though again. We're we're giving cross signals here when we're lane three with the turf railway out usually speed those whole better so you pay attention to what goes on. I don't know if we we have a turf race earlier in the day before the sequenced starts looking back right now. I don't think we do. I think we're all on dirt. Which makes it a little bit difficult but you know I just think for that. I surf race in for the sequence in general. Just play it as if it's going to be a fair turf course in just kind of take it from there race. Eight to middle part of the sequence Entry Level Allowance and different directions to go in here Including a two point six million for Mr Steve that I'm guessing is underwhelmed them to date But certainly one of the faster horses and gun Tommy Jewelry who's had a great meet with limited starters Shows up here with a horse. He's been fast enough And then I thought the apprentice on Shakes Creek Kinda look look the part of a wild card in here another tough race. That gun at horse is a typical tap at He's deeply related. The gunrunner probably why they pay the two point six billion. He's a good looking horse. He ran huge in December at fairgrounds. But I would call them a mental midget now. He hasn't run since the beginning of April. So they've obviously worked with the source a lot. In the mornings he can win. He might be really good moving forward he might not be I certainly don't think it's a horse you can lean on. I'm really interested. In carte blanche this horses run some huge races at Churchill race. Last time out at Keeneland was not a good race but according to Brandon Sobel's workout reports. It was training very well going into that. Maybe one of those horses at and we've seen a lot of them this me that like. Churchill better than they like Keeneland and this horse has six to one in the morning line. You GotTa lean somewhere and I don't know that I would necessarily single carte `blanche like an seek a little bit on the cutback as well to the one mile. Maybe it's a race. I take a chance if we go too deep with a six to one shot because if you get one of those right it's going to be beneficial to the rest of your ticket and I see so many other opportunities where I need to spread. Why don't have a strong opinion? I have a pretty strong opinion in this race whether I'm right or whether I'm wrong it's still not a bad idea to attack it that way. Yeah completely in that regard Do One ask about a horse. We haven't mentioned so. I mentioned three mentioned to Five total and we didn't mention the rail horse fullness of time who speed-wise Looking at the numbers has not been as fast as most of these but certainly looks Maverick to borrow Sarah Palin expression tyler getting up for Cherie on these one. Two or three for her But David and Gordo buying a former Chad Brown trainee for Chad Brown's employees Just seems like one of those Kind of interesting storylines that you see at the racetrack. Yeah the horse one ED. Mammoth which can be a very forward. Track a gate to wire then. I don't know what happened with the if it was a private purchase. What happened with the layout but comes back? Gelded and certainly looks like doors. Have been training while that you know rail post position over the one turn mile can be really tricky especially for a horse. That hasn't tried that yet and should get a little bit of pace pressure as well. I thought you had a really good stead. Didn't you on Cherie with her winners being mostly maiden races? Yeah No Think lifetime now she has six wins and four of the six. Were with first-time starters. Yeah well there you go. I mean I don't know how much you can really read into that. You could actually stable. This one's a first time starter for her fryer so again you know I. That's one of those horses that I probably won't have on my ticket. I wouldn't be surprised if that one beat me. Yeah and that that sat type of sequence where there's going to be several of those Maybe some even in the ninth race Ninety nine thousand dollar purse for sixty two five optional claimer nine one of two other than and I won't steal your thunder on the Peter Miller stats but certainly the is can't help but gravitate toward his starter. Here number eight curate. Back quick off the claim right. And what Peter Miller is. I believe it's eleven of his last twenty one sec- ended June and they haven't a lot of them have been favorites. I this horse horse can win the bell tapestry races at Churchill and Keeneland the horses one of comeback very strongly. The worst is finishing behind. That horse. I've got the worst pick. Fourth in the race should get a great trip from the outside post. And you know whatever's going on with Peter Miller and it's all positive of you've been batting him I look at. There's another worst I love in this race. Six to one mo Jo man should a one. Last time I picked day was almost nine to one. He rushed up with the real. He was in tight. He had to take back off the leader into the pocket. He was talking the whole time. Anxious HE CUT. The rail late was gained to the wire and he lost the do share. Who is a graded stakes caliber? Sprinter who rallied from the clouds third race off of the layoff six to one in the morning line just needs a little bit of racing. I do see a lot of speed in here. This is the worst that can Rate three or four five lengths off the pace and come running Again you know if I want to get a little bit Q. And maybe single this horse in spread crazy around him. You know you. You're right on something like this and a pays fourteen dollars into catch a few other prices. Not not the worst way in the world to approach and either no done deal intrigues me. Five to one so not one of those true separators but little nervous You you mentioned this already. A one at keeneland you go to back Speed and fade Never actually made the lead at Churchill and it does seem like the the keeneland runners who've performed well not here at Churchill so haven't fully decided yet what to do done deal but obviously fits this group on the same level at Keeneland a few weeks ago. Yeah I mean you think. Maybe telekinesis speed fresh. I raise for Jackson from the rail. I mean do they just go and hope for the best? And then you've got cured on the outside has got pressing type speed to although he's capable of sitting a little bit off of it. I mean if they lead done done deal. He's going to be dangerous. I think he's the speed of the speed. I'm just hoping for a little bit of pace pressure again. It's a it's a seven furlong race which I kind of changes the complexion of it a little bit. Yeah that There's this amount shipper Stuck to five and a half six which is just the nature of he runs But by Malibu Moon out of Bernstein mayor I'd have to think stretching out won't be an issue in the numbers say he's competitive as well Might like them a little more if they were able to get a local. Jackie interested but Most we'll see how far I can stretch. But he would be one at ten to one that has the look of south of maybe a separator Which gets us to the last and certainly things. Don't get easier here Joe. We will look at this as if it's on turf Nine furlong maiden race The two morning line favorites are combined Ofer Sixteen lifetime. We have three first-time starters first time North America for Rudy Where you're going I call on Rudy like you guys are on a first name basis or something and one of my favorite things you do. Joe. Yeah I know. I don't think anybody else calls them. Rudy. Yeah see see. If you get some trainer Bob Trainer Body language Info down on the paddock on this one. Because it's it's wide open. It's not going to help us pick five purposes. But I just got a feeling Ramsey solution probably is cut out to be a nice worse. It's the horse's by real solution. New One Arlington million shots ten. Sarah Ramsey Stan this horse. Obviously they want to try to improve stallion value. I don't think they would name Horse Ramsey solution if the horse didn't have some talent and the horse gap bat down to five to one on debut. All chance at the start lost eight length at the Ray Brandt evenly thereafter three workout. Since for Wesley. Ward you gotta think of this is gonNA improve significantly first time. I reported as a gelding so that horses a little bit sneaky attend to one the number ten Alexander Hamilton for a quarter of a million dollar by. He's proven that he's been really good with these. Young horses has to try to work a trip from the extreme outside post but that horse could be a little bit sneaky as well and then a couple of the other ones. I like are actually on the also eligible list. That attorney Tim who comes from a really good family seem to wake up. Last time for Greg fully and then King of fortune the other maker putting blinkers on for the first time in the third career. Start that one has the right to improve as well. So scratches will be a big thing for me in this race to see who's in and who's out and obviously that nine for long distance is an equalizer for some of these horses to attorney. Tim is definitely one. I'd be keen to see dry in Kind of attracted me as well You know otherwise I'm trying not to really get married in any direction because I do more than any other. Race scratches On the swimming it stays on the turf is is really going to be essential and I have not seen any workout reports yet Which is certainly going to be part of the equation with Dermott for Brendon. Walsh to I remember in the summer. Beat me with the first time starter on turf in the last race and then for set has the North American horse and Cassie with Alexander Hamilton. Up based on our discussion it does not sound like you have a single set fair to say Unless like we said earlier you know there. Can you find like a two to one last horse in the sequence that you could say madness? I'M GONNA turn this pick five into a pig four. 'cause I sure can't yeah I mean like I said if I build a couple of different tickets and single Mojo man on one maybe single carte blanche on the other and hope that I'm right about one of those two horses you know. You mentioned the workout reports to everybody interprets information differently. You know whether you're using the sheets or thorough manager numbers or the Brits numbers or a combination of all of them everybody interprets the numbers a little bit differently as far as the workout reports. Go Man I don't really care that much about sturt workouts for turf horses. I think if you see positive words it can only be a positive sign but divisive negative work on on dirt for horse. That's on turf. I mean we own we own a turf only horse and we know that he doesn't work while I'm dirt. But we know that he runs well on turf so be careful getting caught natura and then horses that gold. Nine furlongs like. I'M NOT REALLY WORRIED. About how fast they went in there. Half-mile workout right. So that's another thing just off topic but something that I think if you're using the workout reports which you should I mean we see Brandon Szabo on the air all the time. He comes up with horses that I can't get to two days in advance because I don't have the workout reports but he watches train every morning. And you know he's pop five six to one shots that I can't get to today's advance but if you're handicapping betting the races whether it's Bruno's report Brandon's report a combination of both or anybody else's report I think that's important having a good investment and I think one thing you mentioned you do that. I thought was a great idea Need to start incorporating myself You know as you mark down the thoughts of the Lakers whose information you look at and you can go back to it and say oh less time the source got positive or negative and compare it to this time and maybe they're going in the right direction or maybe it's the wrong direction or maybe they always work bad and it's not indicative of what you see in the afternoon so really knowing that these horses are individuals and finding those patterns for the Horse I think It's definitely a part of unlocking the real power those reports rather than just popping in the day of and okay good workout. That's enough for me. Which at the right price. Maybe it is enough but typically it's helpful to have some context. None of the stuff that I'm doing is helping me this meat but I'm going to Yeah Yeah you just know the again. If a horse's training well Churchill and then went back to Keelan. And didn't Ron wellman comes back to Churchill. You're going to get a better price because of that. So you know it's worth paying attention to because these angles aren't always going to work but the more bags you having your the more clubs you have in your bag the better chance. You're going to have the connect the DOS. And that's why we're having this discussion today. All right well last question and probably don't know the top of your head so think about talk about it on the air gap Leo and Landry are the only two jockeys as of now have them out in every race of the pick five And my handicapping says Tyler's more likely to win more races and the pick five Mr November after all but Florante Real. I mean I think that's flown under the radar a little bit. Since he came back from the broken sternum. He's been he's been on real. I mean I don't know how you come back from a broken sternum and the cold weather and ride as well as he is. I mean I thought that was supposed to be a six-week injury you know. He almost made the Breeders Cup. I'm like I wouldn't ridden them on my horses and the Breeders Cup After that. Kinda injury but man. He's writing great. So yes yeah. Another rider pay attention to for sure But yeah I mean I know I got cory pegged at least once or twice in the sequence and I know I got tyler prominent too so you know one of these days. There's going to be an opportunity to bet these kind of had. No we both loved the jockey. Wager at Kentucky downs and hope that there's some sort of Similar wager in the future with you. Know all the different kinds of betting. We're going to have with sports wagering coming in those kind of props I mean are fun. So hopefully there'll be a day at time in a place in the near future where we can actually bet on something like that. Love it. All right well That's down the road and be good fodder for this podcast for sure Appreciate the time Joe. Looking forward to bind into your ticket on Wednesday and I'm looking forward to having you back in the paddock. Doing your thing. So Yeah I'll see you tomorrow all right. Thank you Joe Joe Christopher everyone. Joey. Decay racing on twitter Definitely a good fallow no matter what but certainly over the next twenty four hours or as you're reading this through Wednesday afternoon is we discussed handicap and hopefully hit this pick five at Churchill downs against it starts rate six Wednesday three thirty six. Pm Eastern. Is I post encourage you to wager on twin spires? If you won't be at the track and we'll put links in the description but it has free past performances for the entire card so what we said isn't good enough for you you WANNA complemented with some of your own. Research can do it free at personnel. Thanks for listening. This has been that. How bad horse racing? How about horseracing podcast?

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - May 22nd 2020

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

59:44 min | 8 months ago

Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - May 22nd 2020

"Welcome to the weekend stakes preview on the horse racing radio network presented by naira vets and Buber Morris now moving up on the outside from fourth to third the second by a head. And now alongside the leader Gouverneur Morris enforceable and Max field both moving behind that out the quarter pole gouverneur Morris has taken the lead from American Butterfly. Here's Max field. Moving up on the outside to challenge Gouverneur Morris off the far turn and Max `field strides forward and takes the lead by a length and a half to likes the final Furlong Gouverneur Morris second enforceable third. The rest are far back. Max Field off. Breathtaking Rod at the top of the stretch kicks clear by six. Max Field to win the Kleber breeders featuring for Jose Ortiz. Now here's Anthony. Stabile and Bobby Newman. Good evening everyone. Welcome to the weekend stakes preview presented by narrow here on the horse racing radio network on the big. Am IT NEEDS TO BE L? In New York Bobby Newman is down in south Florida. Our producer Leila Pena is in our Lexington Kentucky Studios Seven stakes. Coming your way we get the road to the Kentucky Derby back started in the Matt. Win The grade three derby points on the line Churchill downs and all stakes leaked. Pick five over those five a couple of the great race place as well. Bobby Newman a fantastic sleep. I am really looking forward to that late. Pick five and the return. You hear that dulcet tones of our own. Kurt Becker on the call the majority from last year the return in the Matt Win of Max `field it's going to be a great card of Racing Churchill downs tomorrow and it begs. The question is at the road to the Kentucky Derby or now is it the road to the Belmont stakes which is going to be run. Eleven weeks prior to the Kentucky Derby this year on Saturday June twentieth as one of Eddie. Murphy's characters in coming to America in the barbershop scene said Well yes Beaumont. Stakes will be Saturday June twentieth. We'll talk about that in a minute. Everything getting back started as you see retracts opening left and right north and South East and west all points in between Hogan used to say Yea and tomorrow all the action the bulk of the action will be at Churchill. Downs all is down there. We'll see how `field dozen his return is five stakes wonderful card. You can watch it all on America's Day at the races. It's the only place in fact you can watch churchill downs nationally during their spring summer. Meet catch all the action. America's Day at the races kicks off right around one o'clock tomorrow spiteful. Addition of talking horses coming your way as well on Fox. Sports to starting at twelve thirty. I believe Believer Anti Sterling and Jonathan Kinchen on that broadcast so you can catch tomorrow. The coverage starts twelve thirty over on Fox sports too and then all weekend long they bounce back and Forth Fox sports one sports to there's local affiliates as well And the base the place to play all the action of course is over at naira head on over the naira bets him in that to sign up for a narrow bets account last night and he'll be using the Promo Code. Hr and twenty and with Nyerere does deposit match up to two hundred bucks a year. Deposit two hundred bucks once you bet. Four hundred bucks is a two hundred dollar. Wagering credit in your account Head over to an IRA bets dot com for more details. I know there's a lot of lot going on over there. You just head over to the promotional counter I noticed some free piece for these races Of course our friend over a prisoner giving free. Pp's for all of the Churchill. Downs races. Ed Rosa told us last night on the prison dot com calling show that in fact all of the races that will be covered on America's Day at the races going forward will have the free. Pp's posted from prison as well. So good stuff over there and of course this weekend all we can long at Churchill downs last race cashback so once you have your account you download the APP to your phone the last race of the day. You've got twenty dollars to win or more on any horse. In the last race at Churchill downs. This actually works for the next three days Saturday Sunday and of course Memorial Day on Monday. If you play and you'll horse finishes second you get you twenty bucks back. You can get that every day if you play every day and your horse doesn't win any of the three races they're going to give you twenty dollars regardless so head over to our DOT COM. There's a lot going on America's Day at the races. We got you covered here. We'll get into those stakes in just a little bit But Bobby you mentioned it is at the road to the Derby is at the road to the Belmont stakes. For the first time the Belmont stakes will be first will run the Belmont stakes on Saturday. June twenty four weeks from today one would say a per- perfect placement of the Matt Win. When you consider for the first time in a very long time the Belmont stakes will not be run. At the test of the champion distance of a mile and a half of the we wanted a mile and an eighth shoot up to sixteen. Starters can be in gate for the Belmont stakes. I'M A BIG BELIEVER. That will get the sixteen. We may even get an overflow. When you consider that it's a mile and an eighth which is a little more palpable to some trainers this time of year and having not had the preakness and the Kentucky Derby to get these horses ready for the mile and a half so the mile and a half and then of course it's the first leg of the triple crown. It's stolen American classic. And there's a million bucks on the line. There's a lot of factors at play. The also the fact it other than the Matt Win. There's only one other three-year-old big race between now and Belmont stakes time. And that's the Santa Anita Derby and that's only two weeks prior to the Belmont so it really kinda hamstrings. The horses are the connections that were thinking about running in the Santa Anita Derby because that would have to come back two weeks later ship cross country and run against likely fifteen other rivals in the first leg of this year's triple crown so I'm interested to see who from the West Coast. Maybe skips the Santa Anita Derby and go straight to the Belmont stakes. I certainly would think that would see. At least a few from tomorrow's Matt Win in the Belmont stakes in four weeks then The ones that were not going to see in the Matt Win Horses we already know pointing for the Belmont. Tis The law Nidal Charlatan solely balante just to name four of the real big ones. Tis The laws probably pointing toward the Belmont before we ever knew when the Belmont was. Barkley tagged mentioned that you know they were hoping to take the New York path to the first Saturday in September and Kentucky. Derby Day will now the they at least have part of path with the Belmont stakes on June the twentieth and then after the Belmont stakes the question is what happens between the Belmont and the Derby because there are eleven weeks now between the Belmont stakes and the Kentucky Derby so you know you would think that the winner of the Belmont as well as the horses that run behind him or her will run again at least once between the Belmont and the Kentucky Derby could it be at Saratoga when they come out with their schedule and either the Jim Dandy or the travers whatever they decide to put those racists. Maybe they'll just stay in New Jersey and go to the haskell which is scheduled for July eighteenth so four weeks after the Belmont but still seven weeks before the Derby It's very interesting this year. What we've got as far as looking at the triple crown schedule and of course after the triple crown getting to the Breeders Cup in early November keeneland. Tis the Law New York. Brad Barkley Tag. Sakho togas stables. This story sound so so familiar and if it does it was seventeen years ago that those connections teamed up to win the Kentucky Derby and the preakness with the gutsy yelling funny side. One of my favorite horses of all time he could not win the stakes third to empire maker and ten most wanted to see a slop on June seventh. Two Thousand and three. He could not be the first triple. Crown winner in twenty five years. Tis The law went to the Florida Derby and asserted himself in the Florida. Derby certainly made himself one of the top contenders. Bobby mentioned three or four of them. Here here is his law taking that Florida Derby the rest not of consequence with five sixteenths. Doron on the outside. Tis The law bids up boldly now the challenge at t Indian for the top Chevron. A huge number cuts the corner and tries to fight on Gouverneur Morris as loosen charging on the far outside less than a quarter mile to go many Franko sets down his. He's moving away. Chivalry is out running at you. Indian for second GOUVERNEUR. Morris is now four if less than a sixteenth to go in the Florida Derby and it's time to respect law to the law. Is Your Florida Derby winner? He won by three over chivalry. Second Take Indian third then Gouverneur Morris and independence hall to complete the high five in one fifty flat. Pd L. O. Is On the call of that Florida. Derby was all kids the law. He's been the mile in eighth. He has a win at Belmont Park. He took the most prestigious two year old race with all due respect to the Breeders Cup. The we charity the American Farrell. He took the champagne at Belmont Park in just a second start of his career so he has plenty of experience there. It's home pretty much for the tag stable throughout the year. Belmont Park and his the log on to try and defend the home turf and get the job done something his well his stablemate his buddy funny side could not do seventeen years ago. Bobby Newman and that's when the Belmont stakes and I think the most intriguing thing about Tis. The laws that Barkley tag is said that this is a horse who likes time between his races. So th this schedule works out almost perfectly for Tis law because he'll run in the Belmont stakes on June the twentieth. And whether he wins or not he will most likely run about a month later. Either in the Haskell or whatever they have at Saratoga whether it's the Dandy of their travers and they will not mind taking seven weeks off between either of those kind of races and the Kentucky Derby in early September as other horses may be one a little bit more racing to stay fit. Tis The law. It seems like this horse who wants that month and a half between racists to really fire his best shot yes he doesn't you know. Tis The law the local favourite here of course in New York New York Bred Barkley Sack Toga. A fantastic story. Of course there could be two courses. One Newman standing in his law and the entire teams way. And it's the silver-haired Fox Bob Baffert the hall of Famer. He's of course the trainer of the last two triple crown winners American farrow and justify no stranger to success and failure in the Belmont stakes. He's one a few. He's lost a few. He's coming to guns. Blazing couple of undefeated ones. A lot of people were really more wowed by the dollar over Charlatan. They each one of division of the Arkansas Derby. Here's an adult under Joel. Rosario and Dole has put his head in front wells by. You is going to have to battle back button. Doll has taken over a clear lead. He's now two lengths in front at the top of the stretch King Guillermo up outside of wells by you three and a half to Farmington road and finish the and code runner madal still has to get a final furlong. He is a length and a half in front of King. Guillermo finicky fierce runs a big one in third and adult is two lengths in front king gear and finished the fares. It is doll undefeated and the Arkansas Derby winner Dalwin by two and a half king gear. Second Finnick affairs third and Farmington road finish for it. That wasn't a doll. He ran his record to a perfect four for four answered the mile and an eighth test with no problem in his division of the Arkansas Derby. Bobby will talk about him in a minute charlatan. Making just a third of his career was in the first division of the Arkansas Derby. And here's VIC staffer with that call Charlotte and now a quarter mile from Arkansas. Derby glory leads by four lengths basin continues to run in. Second Governor Morris's third then to the outside and Ano- door final furlong left handed whips for Charlotte and he leads. It's a three length advantage over basin who is running his heart out but he is just not good enough and Charlotte ten is going to run them off their feet and win the Arkansas Derby. We will see you. In September. Young Man Charlatan wins by six basin. Second and finishing Governor Morris. They had two big big chances for hall of Famer Bob Baffert Nidal Charlatan. A perfect seven seven combined. Dave both in the mile and an eighth. Everybody's been mile in those three. We just talked about. Bobby Newman. They gotta cut back to the one. Turn now which could play a key role in this year's on steaks it certainly. Could you also going to have a lot of writers who were maybe not used to those big sweeping turns Belmont and the one turn mile and an eighth type races that are going to be converging on Belmont Park on Saturday June twentieth? So there's a lot of play. I think post position just like it does every year for the Kentucky. Derby will mean a lot this year for the Belmont stakes one turn mile and an eighth. It's another thing where I I wouldn't think you'd want to be caught down inside unless you're you know you're a horse like Charlatan who could probably out sprint the field early on. It's really going to be a lot of funny. Throwing horse like solely allante. Who ran a very good second in the Tampa Bay Derby when we last saw him trying to close from way out of it into a pace? That really didn't favor his kinda running style. I think he's going to have something to say. And I would not be surprised. If a couple of horses in tomorrow's Matt Winn stakes jump up with big efforts and they look like they have something to say in the Belmont on June twentieth. It's going be a lot of fun opening day at Belmont Park Wednesday June third. Just about twelve days away. Can't wait for. That should be a good time before we go to break get into the stakes action. Let's see another guy who's looking forward to Belmont opening up. And that's Lewis is. He is the subject of tonight's blood horse news update and look at the top headlines from blood. Oors DOT COM size draft Kentucky Derby appeal suspended fifteen days. The Kentucky Horse Racing Commission has suspended. Jackie Lewis is for fifteen days for as Roger. Last year is Great. One Kentucky Derby by Woodford reserve after the Ryder withdrew his appeal of that suspension. The regulator issued its decision May Twentieth Suspending Sayas from May Twentieth June third. Four his right aboard maximum security in last year's derby size who the country with one hundred and thirty wins. The season currently is writing and Gulfstream Park. He began this mentioned. His scheduled may twentieth. Maximum-security reached a wire. I in the twenty thousand nine Derby but was disqualified for interference. When he came out several paths near the Five Sixteen Paul. In the mile a quarter classic me fourth Churchill downs stewards ruled at maximum. The maximum security veered out. He directly interfered with war of will and chain reaction appearance with long range toddy and Bodey Express. He was placed seventeenth behind long-range taty country house. Who reached a wire? Second was place. I that wraps up addition of blowers news update. Bowlers daily has the largest subscriber base of Emmy Thurber Industry Latronic daily newsletter. Keep up to date on what's going on in our industry all the president of the changes and especially now with racing picking up throughout the country. Download the free blowers daily APP. Wherever email sent to you today get started right now. Go TO DOT COM backslash daily. So Lewis is when an eye on beautiful Belmont Park's opening June third withdraws his appeal takes his days and he'll be ready to roll when big. Sandy opens her doors in twelve days. Bobby and I think that's a good move by Lewis Sayas and his agent care McLaughlin. Mine as well take those days off. Now get your mind right. Get up to New York and boy. His good is just about anyone in the country right now if not better than anyone in the country and I think he's going to continue his winning ways when he gets to that tougher circuit up at Belmont Park. All right let's take our first break when we come back. We'll give into the stakes Jackson. There's an all stakes pick five. Which means is all stakes at Churchill? 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This is the weekend stakes preview presented by Nyerere bets that quarter of a mile to the finish. It is diamond King America on the outside diamond. King narrowly American anthem has all out and second then back side of the moon. Wicked trick is out in the middle of the track as they pass the ball. Diamond King in front American anthem runs in second. It's diamond king with the lead American anthem giving Jason Back Side of the Moon Diamond King from off the layup to win must I made. American anthem was second then back side of the moon and third the one the only the voice of the New York Racing Association John Embryo on the call of the Stymie Diamond King. I'll tell you there's five stakes at Churchill downs tomorrow afternoon. They're all tough. I don't know if there's a tough one the blame. We'll get to that in just a little bit. Welcome back to who we can stakes preview presented by Nyerere bets here on H. R. and I'm looking forward to seeing. Everybody opens June third. I gotta be honest. I'M GONNA play favorites here. I can't wait to see Johnny one of the most selfless nicest helpful. I mean somebody who just wants. What's best for you before anybody else? He's just an amazing person a great race caller and a mentor. And I cannot wait to see John when we opened the doors back up on June. Third haven't able to see him since this whole thing went down and it'll be great to see him. I can tell you that. He's a great guy. He's a fun guy to listen to as well I mean but even before he got the full time job at Nyra as the announcer when he was he's been backing up for seemingly thirty years right now and He's always been pleasure to listen to. It didn't matter whether he it was his job or whether he was backing up. Tom Durkin or even in the Marshall Cassidy days. John Embryo has always been a pleasure. Listen to you know. Exactly what is going on in the race he's got great inflection and he's just he obviously cares about what he's doing he's just a pleasure to listen to work in You know once upon a time we got to see him on TV and it was a pleasure to watch him work as well. Yeah he's the best these. The absolute people say that a lot about other people. He's the he's salt of. The earth is the absolute best. Can't wait to see Ghanaian here. Those calls starting June third. We'll hear travis stone tomorrow at Churchill downs and the action kicks off and race number seven. The Sean One hundred thousand dollars it's a mile and a sixteenth for the phillies and mayors. There's a field of eight now action derosier on the burden at DOT com. Show last night and you can watch all of these. Churchill rates America's Day at the races all weekend long informing that there was some rumblings that the forty five morning line favorite Dunbar. Road may come out of here. You joked on red brand radio yesterday on her biggest fan I loved on borrowed And I gotta be honest with you Dunbar. Road coming out tomorrow would really hurt me. Because she's my lean if Dunbar road runs tomorrow. She's my single in this salty. Pick five secrets. I think there are other ways to go in every other one of these races. I think all of the other favorites vulnerable. She's Hickory to me. She's my pick if she runs if she doesn't think he got gotTA use two or three of these phillies see. I thought it was. I thought it was a to philly racer to Philly and Mayor Race between Dunbar road and number eight. She's a Julie who's the second choice on the morning line thing. That intrigues me about. She's a Julia even though when she faced on borrowed in the Spinster and was soundly defeated by her. I think she's a Julie may end up being the lone speed in the race tomorrow if she can clear number three. Aw Emma who has shown speed at times? I think she's a Julie will be the one in front when they make the swing for home. It's only a mile and a sixteenth. She hasn't run since October. But dunbar road her biggest Biggest hurdle hasn't run since last year. Either she's a Julie has been working a lot. She has eleven works off the layoff Mostly down in New Orleans and a few over a keeneland like I said. I think she's going to be the one in front Dunbar. Roads going to have to pass now dump by road. There's no doubt about it in my mind that if they're all fitting running their best race she's the one to beat but just because of this I picked. She's Juliane top. I would use both of them if I'm playing the pick five. Yeah if Dumbo road stays in. She's my single. If she doesn't I'm going to be using she's Julie I'm going to be using vaulted takes the blinkers off at show all Rosario second time for Brad Cox off in November layoff. She ran into day at Oakland. We were covering the show the race. On Redmond Radio Speed was king at Oaklawn that day on closing weekend. Vault got blamed got in front and kept on going It was a speedy Speed really held. I like her a little bit. Those would be the two. I would use Maybe on a ticket I would. I would use them but done by roads to be my single if she runs if not. It's Volvo and she's a jewelry for me Ray. Seven goes as the Sean Race Number Eight. The return of Breeders Cup Juvenile Filly turf winner. Sharing is in this tappan named of course after the Great Race Mare of the mid twenty teens flatten turns Churchill. Downs feel the fifteen entered one eighty evil war. We'll see if the todd pletcher runner gets in. Tell you what you gotTa Breeders Cup winner coming back making her first start of the year. So you looking at about six and a half months. Since we've last seen sharing she's found some place to launch her sophomore campaign. I agree and I'm not even sure she'll be favored. Tomorrow number. Fourteen alms. I think is the best filly in the race. She's undefeated four for four but boy she is number fourteen and that is not a long run to the turn going one mile on turf at. Churchill at so take a shot against her. I'm going to take a little shot against sharing our use them both. If I'm playing pick fours and fives think a long shot number. Six in good spirits has a chance to go wire-to-wire but I another long-shot number five hendy woods for mark. Cassie and Declan Carol. She is to for two in her brief career. Both at a mile down at the fairgrounds. She comes from a little bit off the pace. I think there's enough speed in here to set it up for looks like she's going to. She can continue to improve and if she improves even a little bit. I think she can give the big names of sharing an alms. All they can handle from a much more favourable. Post position you know. It's it's funny. I you look at this. Raising see the accomplished phillies right alms. A three time stakes winner. She's undefeated of course. We have the Breeders Cup winner in sharing outburst three in a perfect two for two in North America for nearly she wanted to grade. Three Florida oaks last time out walking. Marrakesh just got beat to outbursts. She just got beat to abscond. Who's also in here? They ran one two in the grade. One the town up at Woodbine last year is two year old. But the truth of the matter is you can make a gigs. I was able to make a case in here for everyone. Except it's easier for me to say except I thought the one was tough to make the eight the eleven and thirteen if any of the other eleven including a eve of war won this race. Got IN I. It would not surprise me at all. I'M GONNA use all of there's a ticket where I'M GONNA use all of those so I have a little bit of expensive ticket. There's a horse in the race though. I think you need to use. If you're using longshots your horse. Definitely I worry about her getting cooked on a speed tool the other words. I think you have to use the number ten. Pass the plate for Paul McGee and of course your selection The horse you're going to use a little bit the five I'm sorry you you mentioned the five Hendy Woods. I think us in good spirits to Hendy Woods. Markazi will be more appropriate than him. Winning the tap in the newest hall of Famer Markazi Would Be. It would be very appropriate to win. One after is Great Race Mare named after various but pass the plate started a career and a sprint against a nice looking shook filial a gay and crafty woods. Then one two in a row WANNA keelan want to Churchill downs. Those are the only two times Julian Peruse Readiness Philly. His daughter are temple city. Her next three races one was on the dirt. I guess when you're that talented on the turf you almost half the try to dirt. She didn't run poorly. She didn't want as well she'd rolling turf next to start quite. Frankly the start in the in the in the lottery memorial. I think Corey lowery pulled the trigger a little too soon in the Bourbon at oaks. When she tried the all weather she came running late now. Leper Ruins phillies like. She's a little tough to ride. She's reunited with Peru and Julian Peru is famous for being able to get along with these sources of the first one that comes to mind and Sadler's joy always time that move which adler joy perfectly Maybe another sadler joy here past the plate. I'll tell you what twenty one morning line. I don't know if she'll be that price she's one. That'll be on all of my tickets. However I play the race in and to be honest with you. If she's hanging on the Board at eighteen or twenty one. I'm going to have to make a win better hard because I've always been a fan of her. There's some pace in here. Some of the other phillies didn't draw that well namely alms. I'M GONNA use a bunch. Sharon can obviously win. I'm GONNA take a little swing and trying to get past a plate home as at a huge price in recent the tappan race nine the blame flat mile out of the shoot another huge field here fourteen another race bobby. I think half the field can win this race. It's a very tough race. A very talented feel a lot of speed in this race. I'm having a hard time figuring out. Who's actually going to be favored in this spot? I'm leaning toward number three global campaign who I always think that Stan huffing is crew. Thought was going to be a really nice one. He debuted very impressively at Gulfstream last year. Only two times as horses lost the horses. Who finished in front of them. Were Code Honor Tax and Tacitus and if any of those three were in this race they'd probably be favored so global campaign making a second. Start off a layoff. I think we'll sit a good trip just in behind the speed going. This one turn Mile Iran very well last time out in a basically a stakes caliber allowance race at Gulfstream Park. But I'm not worried about him. Moving technically up in class other horses. That are scaring here. The seven silver dust is very accomplished. Eh Against Good Competition Owen. Dale making his first start of the year extraordinary. Jerry scratched out of a race yesterday to run tomorrow instead. American anthem at a price has shot. Mister money did not one well on the wet track at oaklawn against toms data last time out but his previous tries would all make him very very tough uneven number. Fourteen diamond king who Is One of the speed horses in here. If he doesn't get cooked and dual he could be as I think all of them would be used on my ticket but my top choices global campaign. Yeah you know if you put a gun to my head and said make a top pick it would be global campaign. There's another part of this the one and the only things you didn't mention that and they're all fantastic points the sources three for three around one turn and with his style where he likes to sit off the pace. Make the one run. These one turn mile races are right up his alley right. He's never been a mile in fact but he's won. Both of his starts at seven furlongs. He won the on eighth. Peter Pan at Belmont again. That's one turn. We'll see that in four weeks for the Belmont stakes. He happened to beat last year's Beaumont. When a Sir Winston in that race so you know. They tried him in the Jim. Dandy belong break to the allowance race at Gulfstream where he ran well he picks up Jose Ortiz. Yeah I mean he's the goods I like. I WANNA use a few of them in here. I have another horse at a huge price and I'm definitely using. It's the to Bourbon resolution. Another horse his one turn race is pretty good. No one. The Ben Ali around two turns but he won the race at Gulfstream in February of last year twenty nineteen off of the June layoff from the prior year and then he ran this year in the Sir Shackleton and quite frankly they just got away from him. It was his first start since last July. So it was I start eight months. He came running late. He's GonNa get to Churchill downs where he's at the board a couple of times he's like. I said one for one of the one turn mile. There's enough pace in here. I don't think he'll be that far off of it in fact I don't know if he'll be a too far away from global campaign he'll a huge number two so I'm GonNa try and get him home especially you know if if if Dunbar road doesn't scratch and she runs and she wins. It's going to get off to a talking start so you may want to try and get one or two of these bombs in there. I think he'd be the one in here. You mentioned silver dusty. Moving knowing del ever fast ran really well. Last time. Short structure the mile. He showed a lot more speed than ever had down at Oakland Park. First Time for Jackson who gave him a brilliant ride to get second in the preakness back aboard for the first time. I don't know if I want to let him beat thirty two one I owe nothing too long range taty because of a John Court claiming foul. I would have got nothing in the Kentucky Derby last year. So Yeah this is a wide open race. Mr Money's a wind machine was a the sheen for six months. Last year he's three for four Churchill. Lot of ways to go a wide open blame race number nine tomorrow at Churchill downs right. We're a little more than halfway home. We come back time to Talk Matt Wind Kentucky Derby Points on the line. We'll wrap the card and the coverage of Churchill downs with the war chant as well. You're listening to the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets here on. Hr N that and watch the races worldwide from the palm of your hand with Nyra bets. Sign up for NYRA bets. 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They'll deposit match up to two hundred dollars of your initial deposit match dot com for more details Bobby Newman Tulloch folks about the point system was originally was not supposed to be that many points but Churchill downs and the Kentucky Derby decided to bump the Matt Win and there are some real derby points on the line tomorrow afternoon race ten while the win obviously was never supposed to be before the Kentucky Derby but now since it is they have put eighty five points on the line as far as the road to the Kentucky Derby the winner of the Madelyn will receive fifty. The runner-up gets twenty third place. Ten fourth place five in past years fifty points has been enough to guarantee a spot in the twenty horse field in the Kentucky Derby now there are a lot more quote unquote prep races. They're not really preparations they stand alone. These races But there are a lot more races leading up to the Kentucky Derby this year that are going to be worth points so including the. I'm sorry to interrupt you but including the Belmont stakes right and the Belmont stakes. You get one hundred and fifty points for winning and I believe you get sixty for being the runner up which in the winter obviously would get him but most years that guarantees that the runner up in the Belmont stakes would be would be guaranteed a spot in the Kentucky Derby But there are a lot more. I mean now the Santa Anita Derby is is hasn't been running. That's still going to be one hundred to the winner. The Los Alameda Sturdy which was never getting points is worth twenty two the winner the Haskell which is usually after the Derby one hundred to the winner the Pegasus twenty two the winner Indiana Derby twenty two the winter the bluegrass which they're negotiating in Kentucky now to have a keeneland meet in the first half of July just before Saratoga opens the BLUEGRASS will be worth one hundred two the winter and then of course the Ellis Park Derby and the shared belief fifty to the winner each. We don't know those dates yet. So it's a really a lot of excitement but what we do know about the Matt. Winn stakes is whether they planned it this way or not. It is perfectly timed per for the Belmont stakes. Four weeks after that win is the first leg of this year's triple crown the Belmont stakes and then he still have eleven more weeks to decide what you WANNA do. Tell the Kentucky Derby so this Matt Win maybe more than any other year is a very very important three year race. And you you could add. You'd have to assume at Saratoga. That's GonNa get points as well somewhere about a month before the Kentucky Derby lots of points available so this becomes that much more important especially for a horse like Max Shield. Who's just getting going now? And I think a lot of people would agree this race in all likelihood goes through. Maxwell he has to negotiate the layoff which is a lengthy one. He didn't run since October of last year. So you're looking at well over seven months for this son of street sense. Of course the Kentucky Derby back in two thousand and seven Brennan Wall strains for Godolphin will hear from Godolphin president of US racing operations Jimmy Bell tomorrow morning on a loaded equine form presented by foreign paint doc on trainer Grand Motion Talks About. Breeder's cup juvenile fillies turf when Sharing Return Ruidoso downs. Gm Jeff true previews their upcoming meet and offering Terry Finley. The founder of West Point orbits racing and reflects on Memorial Day. That's all tomorrow morning on the coin form presented foreign paint dot com You'd have to think MACs field would be the one that would wanna get going the most and if he shows up with that rate especially from last year in the British maturity He. He's GonNa be right there at the end of this Matt Win Tomorrow and it certainly looks like he's been working well for his return to the racist. China Brendon Walsh. Long Series Of works both down in Florida and in Kentucky and they've gotten pretty fast since his arrival in Kentucky. Those works over Keelan interesting. I think this race comes down to three horses and all three of them only have two lifetime starts in their careers. Number One. Mystic Guide number two pneumatic and the favorite number. Ten Max field. My top choices actually. Going to be number two pneumatic. Who won I? What I think is the most impressive maiden race of the meet at Oaklawn Park back on February fifteenth. The runner up third place. Finisher I think the fourth place finisher all came back and won impressively in the starts and pneumatic came back on April eleventh with a very impressive win going around two turns and facing winners for the first time I think he's just bred to keep getting better and better as the distances stretch out being by on. Komo out of a tap at mayor and I think pneumatic can cause I wouldn't say the upset but the anytime you're going to beat a favorite light Max `field it's A. It's a little bit of an upset. So I think pneumatic is my top choice. I love the way number. One mystic guide ran last time out breaking his maiden at the fairgrounds. Obviously these are much deeper waters in the Matt Win. But he's got a great post position and that last race that maiden races about as good as any of these other horses have run speed figure wise and there's no reason he can improve his fifteen to one on the morning line and then Max field like you said. He was so impressive. Coming from far off the pace in the breeders futurity last year and just blowing the doors off that field if he runs that kind of race off the layoff. He's obviously the one to beat but there is that small question mark of whether or not he'll run that race tomorrow so I'm just using him as one of my three. I'm using numbers. One two and ten but number two pneumatic my top selection. You may be forced to live in the pick for the pick. Five to root for quarter. Who is here right? The other Chad Brown. The other. Bob The other. Godolphin in here Mr Guy who's GonNa be fifteen ten fifteen points higher than Max field will be on. The board. Yeah pneumatic is probably pneumatics. The question mark in here because of pneumatic keep I say the question what. He's the wildcard. Rather because if he keeps improving boy Max fields going to have to come with a big shot off of the layoff to keep up with this improving son of uncle mo who as good as he wasn't his maiden win he came back and look even better once they stretched out and he's finished the job both times very nice. Final quarter for miles. You know. It's very rare. You see a horse. Go One on nine and four for furs maiden win making up ground right not. He didn't even do it on the front end so you have to figure. At the end of that race he was he was coming home nicely and then stretch out and go the go that one turn that to turn short stretch mind. That's warm impressive to. He didn't have the entire length of the stretch in Oakland to win. Last time he didn't need it he was You know when when they got the eighth pole which is which was really the sixteenth. Paul he was well on his way. It taken flight at that point so this big stretcher Churchill. Yeah I think. The wildcard is pneumatic. He could very well be the goods. And I think you'd be remiss to leave off of of any of your tickets. You have the US Max feel. I don't know what you do with the other horses who we've seen a lot of at this point. I think we've seen we've seen attachment rate enough. I don't know how how much trouble he got into last time it says bumped. I. I don't know if the source really wants to go to turns the mile and a sixteenth. He may be better at the middle distances. What do you do with major fed who you know? He ran well in his division of the risen star behind modernist he was wide around there and then Louisiana Derby Day. It was tough to make up ground on that track and he did it. He didn't break. Well you know I just don't know if the Mile Sixteen is long enough for him. I know he broke his maiden going amount on the sixteenth. But I think maybe against a little bit better Class A horse. He might need a little bit more distant. He's the kind of horseshoe look at. I do anyway for the Belmont stakes for the Kentucky Derby where that Mile and an eighth at Belmont with the five furlong straight run to the first turn might be more than the two turns. Churchill especially from that draw but there are a lot of dangers in here You like three of them. I can make a case for five of them. I'm trying to find a long shot to give you in these numbers as well because a lot of this chalk looks tough but know. Churchill downs has been known to spring up senator to in its storied history necker island speaking of Churchill. Downs is over four in his career. When he doesn't want to Churchill downs at Churchill? Now he's two for two. We broke his maiden and then he won in the slop. He's another one. I don't know how far he wants to go. I didn't love the ride last time. I wanted them to be more forwardly placed from the rail. It didn't happen He gets Tyler Gaffney Leone back aboard gasoline wrote on one time we had no real chance in the swell. He's a son hard spun so you would think the mound sixteenth. We'll be right in his wheelhouse. He's going to be a big number. I think he'll get ignored. He's the kind of wish you WanNa get into your number. I think but I think new medical Max field is likely going to win this race but maybe you get necker island gimmicks to juice things up race number ten. The Great Three Matt Win Fifty Derby points to the winner race number. Eleven wraps the car. They'll pick four pick five all stakes at Churchill. The war chant flat mile on the turf for the three year olds another full field of fourteen. There's a and here as well. We don't have the star. Power of sharing in an alms in here. But like we do in the tap in. But I gotTa tell you about. This is another wide open one. You can make a case for seven or eight of these. And that's what scares me about. This race is then. I think it's so wide open either. Have to do a major spread and really pair it down in your other legs of the pick four. Pick five or you just got to take a shot or two in this race. And that's what I'm GONNA do. Even though I think more than half the field can win. I'M GONNA only use two horses in this race. Number One south bend whose twelve to one on the morning line and number nine smooth like straight south bend is going to be my top choice. And I'm kind of a sucker for this source. He hasn't won in quite a while not since October of last year and he's never won on turf but his turf starts have been pretty good and he's drawn well down along the inside reunited with Julian Peru. Who's been aboard for all three of his starts? I think he had much chance last time out in English Channel. When he was caught wide every step of the way he should be able at least save ground around the first. Turn tomorrow in the war chant. There is some speed in the field and one of the speed horses number nine smooth like straight. He was actually favored his last two starts out at Santa Anita and ran good races. Although not winning races picks up the services of John Velazquez for the first time and I think that may help him. A lot is shipping out to Churchill downs in first time actually outside of southern California so one in nine for me with south. Bend my chops choice. We're running out of time. I think any combination of one two four five six nine twelve thirteen to win this race. I had a tough time with this race when I do I Trust Joel. Rosario pixellated getting a rider change. Joel Rosario I think there's some space some some pacing here. I hope he settles. I hope he makes one run. I think he's like the Churchill downs course for a little bit of the longest stretch of some of these other places. I know fairgrounds. He just missed last time I also think that a quicker pace is going to help the sources 'cause I'M GONNA TRY PIXEL BUT AGAIN. I think of eight of them couldn't win it race. Number eleven goes as the war chant. One more break when we come back. We'll have a few minutes to talk about a couple of graded stakes race place. The Daytona and the trolley winning Ham. You're listening to the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets here on the Horse Racing Radio Network that and watch the races worldwide from palm of your hand with Nyerere Bets. Sign UP FOR NARROW BETS. Today and take advantage of premier perks with the best live racing misery plays in hd exclusive promotions and earn points on every bet sign up for today with the Promo Code H rn twenty under the positive match up to two hundred dollars again. That's H. R. N. twenty with Nyerere. Bet You can bet any track anywhere at any time head over to an IRA best. Dot Com aims. The Spring and summer meet is live at Gulfstream. Park tune in thoroughbreds compete every Thursday through Sunday now through September the heart pounding action download racing schedules and get up to date analysis from our top experts at Gulfstream Park Dot com or get in on the racing action with I bet official wagering APP Gulfstream Park. That's Gulfstream Park Thursday through Sunday now through September at Gulfstream Park Dot com good news live racing has resumed at Santa Anita Park and although the public will not yet be admitted you can play the races at the great race place by logging onto I bat. That's the number one. S T BET DOT COM or download. It at the APP store with a huge three day memorial weekend upon us. I posted through Monday. Memorial Day is twelve thirty PM on Saturday. We'll honor the memory of the legendary Bald Eagle degrade to two hundred thousand dollars Charles Wittingham stakes at a quarter on turf and are supporting features. Saturday is the great free one hundred thousand dollar Daytona stakes. The highlight of the weekend comes on Monday but a pair of greed one three hundred thousand dollar turf stakes gamely for fillies and mares at a mile and one eighth and the shoemaker mile for three year olds and up also on Monday fillies and mares go five and a half on turf in the grade to Monrovia stakes we thank all of our fans for your patients and we hope to reopen to the public as soon as possible please visit Santa Anita dot com for updates racing is back at Churchill downs. Every Thursday through Sunday with a Special Memorial Day Card on Monday may twenty fifth. I post each day is one. Pm Eastern this Saturday catch five state phrases including the grade. Three Matt Win featuring undefeated great one winner and Kentucky Derby Hopeful Max Field. Plus the return Breeder's cup juvenile fillies winner. Sharing in the one hundred thousand dollars happens stakes. Although spectator free churchouse offers great wagering opportunities with big fields and horses coming from all over the country visit Churchill Bounds Dot Com. You'll guys they call me Jersey Joe but it's only job. Bravo me whatever you like. Just so happy that you're listening to horse racing radio network this weekend. Stakes preview presented by NIAGARA ABETS CHURCH BRAHM. United cut loose on the outside has chosen vessel is up to try and get by. Brown storm on the inside of their multiplier from the back of the field. Cleopatra Strike at Oscar Dominguez United Storms when he has company late in the form of Cleopatra. Strike will be to win the San Marcos. I'm Anne Frank Monroe Monty on the call of the San Marcos United Man. He gave bricks and mortar. All you could handle in the Breeders Cup turf last year. He'll be the favorite in Charles Winningham tomorrow at the Great Race Place. Welcome back to the weekend. Stakes preview presented by naira bats race number five before they run the Charles Wittingham Daytona grade. Three five and a half furlongs on the turf back in your old stomping grounds bobby late. Pick five kicks off in the Daytona. So there's two stakes in late. Pick five nine race car to the Great Race Place Tomorrow. Post time twelve thirty Pacific three thirty eastern time field of seven in the Daytona where land? I think it's a two horse race between the five citron and the six wild man Jack they both have similar speedy running styles. Just because of the odds I think number five citron will be my top choice. I also wild man. Jack is coming off two races out and Dubai usually like to give them a race back in the country before they fired their best shot so sister on my top choice but I would use. Both of them in the horizontal. Wagers likes to strong as well I I I really wonder who's the aggressor right. And if I had a bet my money I would think that victory. Spinosa is going to be the aggressive with soprano who has shown I mean. There's last two starts his versatility. He won the grade one big crosby when they were able to steal on the front end. You don't see a lot of forty five half's in grade one Santa Anita on the dirt on dirt and he was able to go get the wire that day when he was left alone on the front end and then last time out in the San Simeon at Santa Anita in March. So you saw big layoff. It didn't matter. He was able to sit just off of a little bit of a more contested face and get there just in the nicotine time. I think his form as well. You see that record sanity the turf. It's it's a little dirtied up by those downhill races. He's a little bit better in these five and a half long races. I like CISTERNA lot tomorrow. Race number five goes as the great three Daytona race. Eight to Charles winning hand the ball. The Eagle has this one named from a mile and a quarter on the turf. That'll start right on the turn. And then they'll make their way around to stretch a couple of times another field of seven and united we heard him loving and Paddle Rightful Hall of Famer Richard Mandella. He took the San Marcos back in February. So he's going to be dealing with just about three and a half close to four month. Layoff six to five on morning. Line what are we thinking about him? Well I think he's going to be a shorter price than that and I had a hard time finding anyone to beat them. The only thing against united is the fact. There's not a lot of speed in the race. And he comes from a little bit off of it but the speed of number three bold endeavor doesn't look like it's quite good enough to beat a horse like united and that's why pay Flavian Pratt to ride united. He's ridden this horse and slow paced races in the past. He'll just have to lay a little closer. The source fires a good shot almost every time he goes to the races six to five morning line. I think we're GONNA see three to five and I can't get past him. I hope I'm hoping there's a little pace in here. I'll give you my selection in just a minute because it's time now for the naira bets. Best Bet if it is the NAIRA BEDS. Best Bet bobby seven to choose from where the land for the naira bets best. Bet I'm gonNA take one of the toughest racist a handicap than ninth at Churchill downs and it is the blame and I think that the standoff trainee global campaign is going to get a good trip in behind the early speed. I Trust Stan. Huff and everything that he does with horses like this global campaign picking up the services of Jose Ortiz. Second start off a layoff and we'll look for him to capitalize on a nine to two morning line from just off the pace in the blame. Tomorrow we've talked about trust earlier in the show right. I say when I have a wide open race I trust and Joel Rosario. That's why I took picks late in the war chant. He's not an IRA best best. Bet It's the other Ortiz Brother router. Tease Junior who has stayed in Florida. I'm sure he'll be New York sooner rather than later takes to flight out. West for in Chad. We Trust Chad Brown rock emperor place. This is a horse. I've been a fan since day. One with a better attribute won the Belmont Derby he had no chance in his trip and those Saratoga Derby invitational. He had less of a chance last time in the moonies when the turf course was playing rock solid for speed on now he gets a mile and a quarter he gets the services of maybe the most accomplished jockeying. Orlando tease junior and hoping to get a little bit more in there appears to be on paper and maybe synthesis can help me with that rock emperor the number seven in race number eight. The Charles Wittingham rock camera mine. Naira Bets Best Bet. I don't think I've been more excited for a weekend of racing than I am for this weekend of racing. We look ahead Valmont. Opens in twelve days. The Belmont stakes will be run for the one hundred and fifty second time under a little bit of a different circumstance on June twentieth. Lots to look forward to have a great Memorial Day weekend everyone. Let's remember why we have Memorial Day? Bobby great job as always. We'll do it again next week. I appreciate a pal great weekend. All right everybody have eighth. Try and celebrate the holiday weekend as best you can start a summer. Hopefully lots of good things to come. Certainly on the racing horizon all right. That wraps it up for Bobby and on the big anthrax. Hope you have lucky night when all your photo finishes have a healthy and Safe Memorial Day Weekend Baltimore for the Equine Forum. You've been listening to the weekend. Stakes preview presented by Nyerere becks.

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Steve Buttleman Interview - September 5, 2020

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

13:23 min | 4 months ago

Steve Buttleman Interview - September 5, 2020

"It's going to sound. Later, today to sounded like that for generations at Churchill downs with the horses come onto the track for the Post Parade and that was indeed Steve buttle men with the call to the post he appeared in our studio a few years back for an interview and was kind enough to. To do that for us. And boy, he is spectacular. He celebrates his twenty fifth consecutive year as the Bugler Churchill downs and he is with me. Now it is a privilege Steve Woman Good morning, my friend. Good morning, how are you today very well, and even better now that I got to hear your call to the post again. Thank you. Morning the only thing we're missing are the fans. Yet you know that's going to be a little bit surreal you. I'm so used to seeing you walk out onto the platform they're outside the infield pagoda and you're familiar red jacket in the black cap and you you hit the call to the post and you're usually looking at. Tens of thousands of fans in the grant how in the grandstand and clubhouse this year you're going to be looking it an empty grandstand. What's that? What's that like so far? It's definitely weird I think luck well, not luckily but since we had to do that in the spring. it's not quite as weird as it could have been. but it's definitely weird on. Derby Day for sure not have hundreds of thousands of people here. and usually when I play the call of the post for the race itself. After about three notes, the whole place erupts and that's going to be missing this year, which is gonNA be a bummer. Yeah, that's right. To does it you know and we'll hear about athletes get pumped up when when the crowd starts the reward is get your juices flowing a little bit. It does it gets You know it helps. It helps me focus a little bit and. Also, interacting with the fans in between races like in the sweets that are next to the winner's circle. sometimes that helps just. Lighten the stress a little bit too. Just making things a little more normal and bringing it back down. Steve you're going to do something a little different this year to if I understand correctly, you'll also be playing the national anthem earlier in the day and that's a departure from what we've seen the past several years when Churchill is brought in big recording artists to do that is that true? That's what you're going to be doing early. Yes Sir Yep. quite an honor. I enjoy eating the national anthem live here every day for our race card but getting to do it for the Derby and on national TV, is something that's new. Is it a difficult song to play? Actually, it's easier than the call of the post because can. I think the words is I play. to try to. Get the breathing and everything just to sound like I was singing it more than playing it. So for me, the national anthem. Is Much easier than the call to the post You know when you went to Churchill downs twenty five years ago and audition to be the Bugler I can remember the story you told me said it was almost. Like. Being on American idol in some respects, right. Yeah, they had cameras set up and stage. And panel of judges and we all did our call to the post and we all did it in front of the other. Applicants and we all knew each other which made it even worse. And we all did our call to the post. There was eight of us there they narrowed it down the two of us. And then we did our call the post over and over. And I was the one that was lucky. Enough to be picked. In all reality did you really truly believe that twenty five years later you'd still be walking out there and doing it every single day. No You know back then I, don't know if I knew what to expect. Now I realize that the Derby is much bigger than this one race it's extends beyond one day and especially in Lexington. Kentucky. It's the theme of a lot of conventions that come to town. It's on a lot of people's bucket with. And so to get to be a part of that and that with people throughout the year is a real blessing. Yeah. Very well said it when we throw it to the call to the post on our coverage and we've been broadcasting the Kentucky Derby on the network. Now, since two thousand eleven to me, it is always one of those moments that you just you don't WanNa Miss. You don't want to get to it late if you get to it early in the crowd is rumbling a little bit and then you start to play it's fine. But in terms of timing, I never WANNA miss the call to the post. There's just something that so identifiable about that how Steve How about for you? How do you view your role in in in the whole pageantry of the Kentucky Derby Well, I'm a small part. Of. The entire. Mechanism that is Churchill downs and Derby Day But fortunately you're. stress. Wise I, guess unfortunately, I'm very visible part of it. So I think when I play the call to the post. On Derby Day. It is like the combination of four weeks of. Intense festivities. That have come to a point and now everyone knows now's the time for the race. And like I said, it's just like four weeks of. Comes to right there. That's an awesome responsibility. Yeah I. WanNa reporter asked me what it was like and. he obviously hadn't didn't know a lot about the derby and I said, well, it's kind of like saying Gentlemen Start Your engines. at the indy five hundred. Is What I put it like in it too. Yeah. It's a great great analogy. Great Way to put it. Steve. buttle Bugler at Churchill downs celebrating twenty five years here in two thousand twenty. He's my special guest here on the Horse Racing Radio Network. The. Walk me back to the beginning a little bit and take me through the early days of St Bundle men. If you will were you always interested in music and did you always think that you know maybe someday this might be where you end up. While I was I started playing cornet in fifth grade and switched over to trumpet which they're the same thing. It's just that I got my trumpet in Eighth. Grade. And I played through Middle School and high school and I really enjoyed it. I also enjoyed singing and the concert choir as well an orchestra. and. So I decided to pursue a trumpet performance degree at U of. L. And I was hoping that I. You know be playing in a orchestra somewhere in the country and. teaching privately or maybe at a university. I never dreamed that I would be. The bugler here at Churchill downs and be here for over twenty five years so. Life has a way of Steering you in the right direction even when you. I try not to go that way. Are there folks that as you were. Beginning to make your way. Through your career and you mentioned the University of Louisville where they're people that you other musicians that you would look up to and Thank. Maybe one day you try to emulate their style or whatever it might be. Oh absolutely looked. Up to my teachers Leon rapier Jim depth Jerry Aiman Mike, Connell all of those. Gentlemen were. I. Just. I couldn't have been here without him. and. They inspired me. I also wanted to play like them too and I think developing. A, good idea of what? Let me turn this thing. There we go. Sorry about that No problem. But developing an idea of what you want to be like is really important and so I would listen to recordings of. Maurice. Andrei And well back then Maynard Ferguson was huge I couldn't hit all the high notes. That he could hit but I still wanted to play like him and then you hear stuff in the movies like the rocky being. Star Wars The. Fan Fair and that always was like man I wanna be the one that gets to do that some day. For Broadway shows I always wanted to play on Broadway, I love musical theater and getting to be a part of that as well. Have, you ever had the chance to do any of that type of work Yeah. Just not I've done. A Summer Theatre here in Louisville. In fact here Uruguay Park when we did shows there over the summer and I've been able to play with quite a few high school productions. And I have played at the Belmont. So I've played. Played in New York. Technically. And then I played the preakness. So I've played it all three triple crown races, which is something. I. Never Dreamed of. Well. When you're at a place like Churchill downs, which is hallowed ground for horse racing fans in Derby? Day. Is Special as it gets in the sport of thoroughbred racing. I know that over two and a half decades of working there and being the bugler there are moments that come up that always resonate with you. So tell me about a couple of the moments that when you think back on your career at Churchill downs, you're never gonNA forget. Well one's gotta be. Watching the Derby with Wynton Marsalis. He was here in town during a masterclass at U. OF AL and he came. To play along with the band, Kentucky home, and after he was done and I went out and introduced myself and. Asked him if he'd want to watch the race from the top of the pagoda on the roof. And he said sure so. that's gotTa be highlight. I've met a lot of different of the recording artists and that's been really really cool. meeting Josh Grove was Great His dad plays trumpet and So we talked about that. And Meeting Bob Costas was great. Oh. There's just so many things that I've been blessed with this position to get to do. But those are a few of the highlights. Steve. I can tell you there is There's nobody better man and and I I can't thank you enough for all your time here this morning and for stopping by the studio a few years back and and always been very generous with your time and keep up the great work and we can't wait for the call of the post later this afternoon before the Kentucky. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me. Thank you what you do for horse racing and. keeping everybody excited. And I hope you guys have a wonderful Derby. Day. Yeah. WE'LL BE LISTENING THANKS STEVE Okay. Thank you.

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In The Gate #431 - A Legacy Questioned

In The Gate

34:06 min | 1 year ago

In The Gate #431 - A Legacy Questioned

"He is the thirteenth triple crown winner in the history of American racing yeah but a recent media report calls calls justifies triple crown win into question because of a drug test we'll talk with one of the board members who judged the validity of the test plus as Churchill downs runs runs its brief. September meet will analyze what they're somewhat puzzling off. The track moves might mean for the future of racing will have all that and more on this edition of indicate indicate the dates. There ought to be laid off. This is in the gate. ESPN's thoroughbred racing podcast. My name is Barry Abrams. You can follow me on on twitter at Abrahams Boys facebook at Barry Abrams voice you can get us as well On. Youtube soundcloud tune in dot com or your pod catcher APP and of course in the listen TAB AT ESPN DOT com and we wanna make sure you vote for us. In the upcoming fan choice awards that America's best racing it happens in November Barath to the Breeders Cup and yes best racing. PODCAST is one of the categories so you know what to do not g army. If you like this show vote for us in November in the fan choice awards America's best racing dot net before justify became the thirteenth winner of the American triple crown he had had to qualify for the first leg the Kentucky Derby just a month out from the Derby justify had not run in any races that offered qualifying points towards the run for the roses so he had just one shot to make it finish first or second in the Santa Anita Derby prodigious talent matches step released at least gloss. It's justified by like the Court of Bob Dorough taking run adding but really having to be pushed on by Castellano Smith books confident on justify reaching reaching the top of the stretch justify leading Pasta Powell. He's a couple of blanks in both Dora was closing on the inside. It's justified by three quotas both borough trying hard but justify another exhilarating exhibition by the supremely gifted athlete. He's on the dizzying. US enter greatness the winning the Santa Anita Derby clearly from both arrive according to an article written by Joe Drape in the New York Times shortly after this race justify vite tested positive for a banned substance called scopolamine in humans scopolamine is used to treat motion sickness or nausea. That's it's caused by say anesthesia. But why would it end up in a horse. Is it a performance enhancing drug. SCOPOLAMINE is in the least greeted grievous class of drugs. According to the guidelines of the Association of Racing Commissioners International Still The Times article reported that justify had had three hundred nanograms per milliliter which a veteran drug lab official called excessive according to The Times the California horse racing being bored waited nearly three weeks to alert Bob Baffert that the horse had had a positive drug test that was nine days before the Kentucky Derby then the Times Times reports. It took nearly four more months before the board made a final decision on the matter in August. They dismissed it. The New York Times article clearly clearly raises quite a few questions about the results the process and the information spelled out in the story so to help us. Shed some light on this we we welcome in one of the California horse racing board members involved in the process Jesse Choper who is now retired from the board and is also a professor meritous of law at cal Berkeley and a constitutional scholar in fact when Mr Choper finished law school he served as the clerk for the Chief Justice Disobey the Supreme Court Earl Warren so Mr Choper. Let's take this one step at a time first of all. What do you remember about. I hearing about a positive test for justify the horse that had at that point won the Santa Anita Derby and would be heading to the Kentucky Derby that horse you know always a famous course so it seems to me that I would have remembered something I thought about when you cut in touch with me and it may well be you know we do dozens of cases on this every month so I I it seemed to me as as I looked over the whole thing that everything was done pursuant to protocol I think that the racing board at the time should be commended rather than criticized for what it is what it what it didn't that case why the you know the Horse was considered to be the number one horse at the time and to going to run in the the the triple crown. Look for it and what we did is we we listen to the case it involved in drug. I should say drug that has since been stated to be one that is not forbidden at all okay but at the time it was my experience on the racing board is always been that we are overly sensitive to this. I think we have the most thorough investigations on these matters or or considerations these matters than any racetrack in the country AH outside of California certainly been including outside but you know any any race track we do the same thing for all all of the local California race tracks so he did get a positive on it and I I imagine although Oh I don't know that I I recall it that they asked it to be done it over again. I don't know I think it was renewed. As a positive and I think it was agreed to be a positive subsequently after that the board considered it I my guess in something something like this is a twenty twenty five minute conversation and I truthfully do not remember exactly what happened but I imagine that at that time we did not put the horse. disqualified a horse from their race that he had entered well. Let's take a one step at a time here first of all. Do you recall whether justify was the only horse to test test positive at that time for scopolamine. No Okay Doctor Arthur the Ecuadoran medical director director told a member of the Vegas Stats and information network that six horses tested positive. I must say that if Rick said that and that's the fact he is a he his he's the most he's the most respected of the people with the whole country in terms of being the medical medical representative that reports to the board. So what did you end and the other CHR be commissioners know about this drug scopolamine what it does to a horse how it gets into a horse etc at the time. I'm sure that we were informed about it. Okay but I certainly don't recall so the CHR be then notified Bob Baffert who as you mentioned ordered a second test a B sample of the urine there always to in case something goes wrong the first time and it came back positive yes. Yes that's right so the New York. Times article says the sports rules were not followed Mo.. We should point out that there is no one governing body for the sport in this country each state that sanctions horse racing makes its own rules so so in California. What is the timeframe for reviewing these samples. The is is I reviewed by Stewart. It's at the race track. They go for it. They make a judgement that can be appealed and then some of them can be appealed to be reviewed by the racing board on a number of them. We look at it over the written record and decide. It's not worth ah the time of the Board to review it otherwise we do review. What if you ask me if we reviewed it. I don't know I think we probably did eh. The New York Times article said that Bob Baffert was notified nine days before the Kentucky Berbie which would have been over three weeks since the result of the test was made known to you. What do you know about out that and how do you feel about that timeframe. I don't have any idea that as to whether this was any different than the ordinary timeframe that would occur under the circumstances of the facts of this case in the Times article the Board's Executive Director Patankar acknowledged that this was quote a delicate case okay. The Times also quotes the boards equine medical director Rick Arthur who we mentioned earlier as writing an email circulated to all of you on the board where he says this case will be handled differently. What does differently mean to you just just seeing that. I don't know I would find out why I'm sorry to you know to be I'm not I'm not in any way trying to be difficult with you. I just don't I don't i. I don't recall that I had no I. I don't think I had any reason to believe that it was done in a timeframe that was not reasonable under the circumstances will a racehorse. Nowadays usually runs every four weeks or so yeah. Maybe that'd be. That's a an average that they run seven eight times a year. That's leaving so this took about ninety or more days between the time. The first test came came back and August when the New York Times said that the matter was completely settled which will get to win a minute so in other words a horse like justify. Justify is likely to make another start before any judgment based on that drug test is made. How do you feel about that. I haven't I I mean what do I think about it. You have to be more specific. We'll in other words. It was may when the test came back according to the New York Times it was August when a closed door executive session was convened by the California Horse Racing Board to come up with a final determination which was to dismiss the case and according to the Times such a closed door executive session had never happened in the five and a half years that Rick Patankar had been executive director. We have many things that go on an executive session. All the matters before or the board are not public at the time there was a provision that authorizes executive sessions Sion's under proper circumstances. I don't know the details of that. You can take a look at it but it is not fun rarely it's done regularly I can't tell you how many or what have you. It's a high it's a high interest. AH Horse at triple crown potential horse educates big. It's big news. We're talking with Jesse choper a retired hired member of the California horse racing board here on negate. He was a member of the board last year. When this case with justify was ongoing so the other thing we were talking about there was the timeframe from May until August when this matter was finally closed with the board board dismissing it again justify had run three more races since the Santa Anita Derby of course the three triple crown races in your experience. Has it normally taken that long to settle an issue like this. I'm thinking talking. I really. I cannot give you a a confident answer. My notion gene is given all of the circumstances and given the way of the board operates in terms of and you know the red a better on top of these things all of the time and reports to us all the time. He's a in my judgment again. I have the greatest respect for what for the way he has handled things things overall and I've never known them really to. You know to make any significant mistake so I'm not at all surprised that a dragged out to be this long. I mean you know it's it's like it is like a parallel judicial process. You're not long court stake to decide case. What does that mean. What is a parallel judicial. Process me a situation in which someone was charged with something or I suppose it was crying right. So does the preliminary hearing. The judge says thirty days later. We'll have the next hearing. I'm busy busy. You know I have a full calendar lender and those things drag on. I don't want to deny the fact. This is a special situation but I'm also confident although I can't you know I don't. I just don't remember all of the details deter quite properly asking about. I don't remember them but ah I had no reason to believe at the time that we were doing anything to delay anything. Dr Arthur said to my friend Ron Flatter at the Vegas stats and information network that they were six other positive tests in addition to justifies for this drug scopolamine. Do you recall whether the other horses cases were dismissed along with justifies I do not I don't recall what should be the big takeaway from this story in your mind that P. process that we have for the issue of misconduct by members of horse racing racing industry is very similar to the process that we have for misconduct outside the worst racing industry and I think both of them. are a can can lead two situations in which people are unhappy. Maybe justifiably unhappy but under the circumstances of the resources that are available. That's that stress life. You know how much of the public is going to view this story regardless of the nuanced view where trying to take here as another example of horses being drugged to do. People's bidding the folks with the people for the ethical treatment of animals have made their statement that horse horseracing is crooked to the core and must be overhauled. What do you say to that. I would say that pita as yes done an excellent job of presenting their views their views would include not only not only no sports racing they would take no other use of of horses for any kind of situation except living out their lives in his comfortable so situation as possible now that doesn't Wash Josh unless you want to do away with the horse racing industry. I have every respect for Peter but there's is an an adversary position. There's not accepted by the general public and particularly not accepted in a situation waist which you have a a financially important both to the owners trainers the state in the United States in terms of taxation and so forth and income that that that's the way it is. I don't agree with Peter. I respect him. Movie Greatly Lee Appreciate Your Perspective on this. You're in the room. We were not thank you so much professor choper for all of your help here. Thank you very much in a written statement justifies trainer. Bob Baffert says that scopolamine wasn't given intentionally to the horse he is calling upon the state racing boards in the three states where the triple crown is held Kentucky Maryland and New York to release the drug test results for justify following. Each of those races baffert claims the horse source past those tests. We're going to take a short break here on in the gate but when we come back Churchill downs had a couple of puzzling moves lately off off the track. What does that mean for the future of racing on the track? We'll get into that when we come back and now I fought from geico motorcycle. It took fifteen minutes to take a spirit animal quiz online cleese be the Cheetah the Cheetah and learn earn. Your animal isn't the Cheetah but the far less appealing blob fish. Come on glad insult to injury. You could've used those fifteen eighteen blood fish minutes to switch your motorcycle insurance too. GEICO GEICO fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance. Welcome back to the podcast remember back when Amazon was just an online bookstore well now of course most people well don't remember that because now you can buy anything short of a small country from the mega online retailer they branched out from what had been their core business and they obviously did it very well but there are numerous examples of businesses that failed trying to branch out remember when AOL bought Time Warner. You're how did that work out. How about when quaker oats bought snapple you probably didn't even know the quaker oats bought snapple it only lasted for two years and even even the wwe they tried promoting boxing running a restaurant and a hotel a bodybuilding federation and of course the first disastrous incarnation of the XFL? We'll see about the second one next year that brings us to Churchill downs incorporated since eighteen seventy five Churchill Israel has been you guessed it a racing company but since around two thousand seven. CDI has gotten more into the casino gaming business this they now have full or partial interests in casino properties in different states including of course Kentucky the two latest moves by CDI. I merit some discussion they intend to build a new race track in the northern part of the state and have applied for the winter race dates usually a Lotta turf way park near Cincinnati with the intention to usurp the racing action there on the other hand. CDI has stated that they will no longer pursue a casino license for Arlington Park near Chicago the home of the Arlington million both of these moves have raised some eyebrows what does all this mean for the future of CDI. Yeah I of Churchill downs racing company and what does it mean for the racing industry to get some perspective on this. We welcome in David Katz. A financial analyst list with jeffries financial group Churchill downs is one of the properties that Mr Katz follows and we're pleased to welcome in for the first time here to win the gate and full disclosure here ear while I am not affiliated with Churchill downs. I am part of one of their racing clubs one of the nonprofit ventures of horse ownership not that it'll get in the way of of our discussion here regarding Churchill downs but we wanna make sure you know that so. Let's take these moves one at a time. Churchill's propose new track in northern Kentucky which which would snag dates away from Turf Way Park seems to be more about casino gaming that about racing turf way park management it said it would add offerings like historical racing or slot machines but so far it has not done so turf ways parent company. Jack Entertainment also has properties in nearby. Cincinnati Churchill downs would presumably make their new track into a racine. Oh what do you make of all this right. Look I think what's happening. Here is is a dynamic and I can't speak specifically to turf way park and what that management team is thinking however as you aptly point out you know they own property inch inch and atty that you know has a database of gamers and you know if you look at the population base in theory they might be splitting that customer base with Turf Way Park by adding gaming machines to and adding alternative gaming so it's possible although I wouldn't know it's possible you know that they have hesitated to add those gaming machines for that reason but again again. I don't know in the case of Churchill downs you know their intent is as a a first rate track operator. is to try and capitalize on the opportunity to to have a first rate run track along with a gaming machine operator operation because those things can be pretty profitable and they have one that they are operating now in the Louisville area called Derby City. That's that's been doing quite well. It's been a continual upside surprise since they opened it last August. We'll get to that in a minute but the other thing I wanted to talk about. Is that wallet appears that Churchill wants to build a new racine no in Kentucky they also have abruptly stopped pursuing a casino at Arlington Park Doc near Chicago Church claims prohibitive tax rates were heard Arlington War than it would other casinos in the Chicago area. This comes after Illinois Illinois Governor Jay Pritzker signed off in June on a law that authorizes Arlington author and Fairmount Park to operate casinos with some restrictions on size. What do you think is behind this move by Churchill. Yeah I look I think it is a business decision in in terms of how to create the most value for the entirety of the Churchill enterprise and I think it really begins and ends right there when we look at Arlington Park Mark and where it is placed and it and it is a highly valuable location they have it is approximately eight miles from rivers casino in depth plaines Illinois in which Churchill owns sixty one point two seven percent interest and so that eight mile L. distance is a little bit close between the two properties and it is it's not usual that a casino operator or gaming operator would want to have to operations nations that close to each other particularly when one of those operations has a much higher gaming tax rate than the other and that's that would be the ACACIA here and I think that's behind the decision to Churchill downs has made so far now we talked about Derby city. Gaming aiming and Churchill has a few other casino properties in the pipeline including that one. CDI is in talks with Keeneland to open jointly another casino in the the town of Hopkinsville Kentucky. What do you see as Churchill's long-term philosophy. When it comes to Gaming Yeah I look. I think what Churchill L. A. Longtime ago figured out and their currency. Oh was it was absolutely a part of that thought process when I first started headcovering Churchill downs in two thousand one. It was strictly a horse racing company and over time what they have figured out is that patrons the population in the United States is gambling more and more in other ways beyond horse racing and the first step was getting involved with twin spires spires which is their account wagering enterprise that they have then second getting into the bricks and mortar casino business because again. It's not as though so people are gambling less. They're gambling more. They're just doing it in different ways. They're doing it through an APP. They're doing it online and they're doing in brick and mortar casinos and we can talk about the next phases beyond that as you see fit but the company has evolved beyond just being a horse racing company into that brick and mortar casino business and the Derby City facility which are which houses historical racing machines which are effectively gaming machines that operate on an algorithm derived from historical horse racing results as proven to be a very productive endeavor for the company both their bricks action mortar casinos have best in class margins and as I mentioned earlier this historical Racing Facility Derby Derby city they opened a believe it was last I strongest it has outperformed the early expectation so far and so the inclination to open more facilities like it has been very very well received David Katz. Have Jeffries Financial Group is with us here on the gate. Now you talked about Churchill being more than just a racing company but it has traditionally finally been a racing company yet. Churchill has all but shut down the racing at the Florida track formerly known as called her the casino remains but the track track will almost undoubtedly go away when the contract that requires racing expires after two thousand twenty and you may recall back in two thousand thirteen management at the fairgrounds in New Orleans also owned by Churchill begged and pleaded with the parent company to repair the turf course numerous humorous races and a music festival left the turf muddy and basically unusable which makes you question Churchill's commitment to racing. What does all of this say about. CD is long term position. When it comes to racing you make some very interesting points but I think they are all under the same same concept which is that horse racing is a productive enterprise under the right circumstances and as I indicated located earlier the population of people betting on horse racing is not growing and in and in fact I believe it's shrinking and so the there's a a growing concentration within horse racing but I think occurs around the premier tracks and the premiere events and that's a dynamic that you know should continue pretty much indefinitely and so that favors Churchill downs and the Kentucky Derby and events like like that and properties like that which is the premier racetrack in the country if not the world and it casts some questions around around how to drive profitability and had to drive value for shareholders out of the other tracks that are there. How do we create the most value you in an enterprise that has a questionable amount of demand in its profile and its future and I think that's really the question and that Churchill has endeavoured to answer and quite frankly we think they've answered it appropriately and as you know Churchill has put an awful lot of money into adding more and more luxurious facilities at its main location since it hosts two of the most famous race days in the country now it's obviously hard to quantify this but you have to believe that Churchill downs the race track and the company is a bellwether for the entire industry so how to other companies other racing entities look at Churchill and determine what the future of this sport is. You know I think the Churchill is as you point out a bellwether barry an exemplary for how the business should be approached years ago. Churchill downs was a company that was you know either blindly or hopelessly committed to horse racing despite the fact that it was not growing and its profitability was under pressure the company has as I said much more recently balanced the its commitment to the premier tracks the premier events and to horse racing as a historical enterprise however they have balanced with the need and appropriately show to drive profit and drive value value and returns on invested capital because that's how people in our position will ultimately evaluate them and I think they've they've done that quite nicely and as you pointed out earlier Barry they do continue to enhance the experience around the Churchill downs track and the Kentucky Derby in in particular and have started to talk about plans to add further construction of a hotel with a an HR gaming machine facility at trackside at the property in the future but you know the fact of the matter is about one hundred and sixty thousand people go to the Kentucky Okay Derby every year and only about sixty thousand of them have a seat and so you know from our perspective that provides opportunity to entertain tain the remainder of those people in a productive way and in a profitable way the winning line the finish line those depending on which outside of ponder on not quite as important as the bottom line so thank you so much for your perspective. Mr Katz very good food for thought. Thank you Barry our thanks to David Katz and to Jesse Choper. It's been a raucous time at the keeneland September yearling sale in one sense. We've we've gone back to the good old days the dolphin battling cool more into the nine figure stratosphere but it's very much new school in other ways the emphasis on breeding to sell with surely underscored when Mandy Pope off Philly for eight point two. That's a long way from when the stars were home breads reds for the industry titans like the Phipps Vanderbilt's and Mary Lou. There have been more than a half dozen of them. Who've gone for more than a million yet. California chrome just cost ten grand but he was not purchased with reading foremost on the mind. Some phillies are bought just join a broodmare banned banned. The sale gets further along the prices should come down a little since the choices forces walked through at the start but no matter how much homework. Oh you do horse buying not just science for picking out a champion his impact you can get us on Youtube soundcloud tune in dot COM com or your podcast APP and of course in the listen tab at ESPN DOT com and we wanna make sure you vote for us. In the upcoming fan choice awards at America's best racing sink it happens in November after the Breeders Cup and yes best racing. PODCAST is one of the categories so you know what to do. I T G army if you like this show vote for us in November in the fan choice awards at America's best racing dot net and you can follow me on twitter at Abrahams boys on facebook at Barry Abrams voice. That's in the gate for this week. I'm Barry Abrams. We'll see you next time.

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - June 28th 2019

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - June 28th 2019

"Originating from our Jimmy Johns of Lexington studios. Welcome to the weekend stakes preview. Presented by naira pets. They come to the top of the line Han, Muira going to be taken on by mission impassable wall horses coming facile leaker leakers in there. Now Unia starting to unwind extreme outside Vassily on the inside. Good Darras, right? Dead daddy is alleged unique coming like a rocket on the outside union of clouds and Yoni captivating trade today under Joel Rosario. They get up to an daddy is alleging funny, second. Now, here's Anthony stabile and Jud filled. Good evening, everyone. Welcome through weekend. Stakes previews at the by Naruebet here on the horse racing radio network on the big enemies to be of a beautiful Belmont, Park down in our Jimmy Johns, Lexington broadcast studios is our producer Lee dela Pena and up at Woodbine getting ready for the one hundred sixty th queen's plate. Tomorrow afternoon is the bottom of the pick for Jude feld. A dozen stakes for you this weekend all on Saturday, five from Woodbine including the queen's plate, the perfect sting here heard owning she's back in her first start since that grade, one in the matriarch the mother goose's. Well, chatting around a big hand in both stakes here at Belmont tomorrow. What's happening? Jude happy Friday. Yeah. Happy Friday, glad to be in Canada. And. Fantastic day here. Very, very warm in Canada. We've had a couple of really warm days. There's a breeze blowing down the stretch here. I guess you'd say it's a guest, the wind is the horse's turn into the stretch and the flags are flying. We've got the maple leaf and the US flag or just blowing in the breeze here. Looking forward to big day tomorrow, and some racing here this afternoon. Yeah. Recording the show before the action kicks off at Woodbine and Belmont today. Right around one o'clock, recording this program on Friday and getting you ready for which should be fantastic weekend of racing. 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And there was only one ticket and the horse ran second by a neck was not covered. So there can be carryovers mandatory distribution on Sunday. And then Wednesday it's open to everyone for the next two days. The only place you could play that. And I pick five outside the state of New York is over at naira vets dot com. All right. Let's get to it. Only returns in the perfect sting here at beautiful Belmont Park tomorrow afternoon race seven. On a nine race Saturday card. She'll face just four others. One horse binti, Al Nahr just ran a few days ago week ago to be exact. Belva from Todd Pletcher figures to be the second choice, but they all have to have their running shoes onto deal with Oni tomorrow. Yes, she's on a four race winning streak. Now granted she hasn't run since December the second and chats horses have not been firing off layoffs, but I would be hard pressed to find somebody to bet against her. She's just outstanding. They're one of the best in the country and turf figure Weiser's, nobody that even touches her in here. So gotta go with the chalk. Yeah, unfortunately could not as it remorse show. I'm a big fan. She's one of my favorite in training. We called cocktail cold number last week at Woodbine. We're going to try and cold cock one in the perfect thing. Mrs Ramona g to split the favorites I like this Phillies races. Now you can argue that she's better turf sprinting, but her distance races terrible. She ran well. On the firm ground at Gulf REM on New Year's day. She won an open optional claimer allowance contest. Then she had a no chance trip when wide around there in the sunshine, millions to turf sprints back now she stretches back out. I think she runs, second here, a cold three one Oni over MRs Ramona g from me in seven the perfect sting Chad round has Oni. Chad Brown has done bar road in race number eight Ray two mother goose talking to Maggie Wolfendale Morley on the talking program earlier today naira and we were missing a little bit of the end of the show about some of the best mother goose's, we'd ever seen. It's ten years since Rachel Alexandra's win her. I start back after the Preakness. It's about six years since my girl, close hatches wanted, and, you know, Judah go back all the way to nineteen ninety one for the mother of all goose's when light light, meadow, stall put on the show here at Pelham Mont. Sunday after the handle strike, the gold on steaks one of the best racers I've ever seen in person. Yeah. That was that was a heck of a race and light light, she was an amazing filly. I was lucky enough to beat her down at del mar in Chula vista. Great, too. And that was a big day. There's a big day for me for sure. Well, it should be a. Foreign renewal. It's always good to go down and should be good. Renewal of the mother goose this year, if anything else, it may lack some marquee names, but maybe we see another Chad Brown star emerged on borrowed on the rail. She'll break from post one of those familiar, far screening light green, Peter Brant, Jose or tease now. Guarani dominated the acorn in the second start of her career Dunbar wrote if you remember after a second place finish in the Gulfstream Park folks and just a second sought of a career. Chad Brown tried running in the Kentucky oaks. He was she was stuck on the less. You never drew in. She came back and rump two months later off the Gulfstream Park, oaks and easy, then here over big sandy, so she has her race over the track. And she figures to be any price here in this mother goose. Yep. -solutely. I loved her going into the Kentucky oaks, she had just trained sensationally all week long. She couldn't looked any better. I mean she was. Really sharp. I was disappointed. She didn't get in. But you know, she's improved or speed figures every race. Eighty nine ninety one ninety six on the Brisbane scale and you know, she's, she's the Philly to beat for sure. She's so pretty. She's so talented. Lots of things about her. Yeah. I'm gonna go back to back on cold numbers. How about that? Tobacco number tomorrow. Pajama Game this time Don road over wings of Don wings of scratch out of a turf race last week to run here, this rations coming up a little light just to feel the sex, she's over to on the she's two for two on the all weather up at Woodbine factors. Winds came sixteen days apart me third may nineteen. Now, she'll try the fast main track for the first time, she's trained well over the training checkup or would bind fifty eight and two on the train and track a minute flat, forty eight flat. She's by medallion out of a mine shaft mash, call six hundred thousand a year earlier Keeneland September twenty seventeen. I don't see any reason why this Phillies not gonna handle the dirt. I'm not the biggest Safta fan. She figures to be the second choice. She was only a few lengths behind on borrowed and that go from parks as a maiden. She broke her maiden last time out, she was fortunate to write a speed favoring racetrack, and I'm not a safm. I'm gonna go to cold one six if we can get Dunbar road over wings of dawn. It goes race. Eight tomorrow agree to. Mother goose here at Belmont down at go free park in a few weeks. We got to go for him. But at some of the speed day tomorrow we got a couple of the speed stakes for you. The great ones. Great to Princess, Rooney goes wait race number twelve for the Phillies and mayors, though. Seven FRANZ out of the shoot. We have a field of seven going seven. Yeah. Well, I settled on stormy embrace number six big win last time out in a little stakes at Gulfstream state, bred stakes. She got one hundred and three percents beat figure that day that's, that's pretty massive. She's done that before she ran one hundred five at Gulfstream in the Princess Rooney last year. So we have the defending champion thing, and all of that, she's in top form and. I didn't really see anybody in here the bothe- her if she runs back to that race, she can even bouncing. I have been waiting. And. Tooting. My own horn. Will always be onto. You see a big your. Truth when I wait for them. I think I have a pretty good percentage. And I couldn't have been happier during the Belmont Stakes racing festival. When tomorrow row came out of the better roses. The race was dominated by separation of power for two reasons. One, I love separation of power that day too. I didn't think so while row was up to separation of powers just yet. Mike's scratched her and he waited for the spot. I think the seventeenth hit this Philly, right? Between the eyes. She has been training. A storm in Maryland at fair hill. I think she gets a good setup here this some speed. I don't think she has to be too far off of it. I don't have any worries. If the race comes up wet, she ran really well last last time on a sloppy track here at Belmont. And the break doesn't bother me. She ran well off a year layoff, I love this filly tomorrow. And think this most some speeding here razorback lady, Royal Asher and, and trench town cat and, and the defending champs stormy embrace. I think albumin is takes a just off the pace makes one run. I am all in tomorrow reached number twelve at go free agree to Princess Rooney, number four, quarrel. Row from me to take the Princess Rooney. All right. Let's take out first break. When we come back, we will wrap the action at Goldfine with the grade three smile and the summer to speed wraps up as well. And we'll take a trip to Churchill Downs closing night features three stakes. 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Plenty of great wagering opportunities every week must be sure to check out our calendar of events full racing schedule. And to learn more about coming events, visit Gulfstream Park dot com. That's Gulfstream Park dot com. You can't make money at the track. This summit this year's best thoroughbred racing is on tap at Saratoga, del mar Arlington park Monmouth park and Woodbine. So the opportunities abound with pope ju dot com inciteful handicapping and inside information or th. Wow, wagers. All your favorite resort tracks are available every playable weekend during the summer racing fans from coast to coast us pope ju dot com reports as a reliable way to wager. When vacation gets in the way of your own handicapping, or another set of eyes on the past performances. Make a big score this summer. Go to pope ju dot com. Hey, everyone. This is Mike Penick. Join me and our entire HR team tomorrow, beginning at four PM eastern, four exclusive coverage of the oldest continuously run horse race in North America, the one hundred sixty three Newell of the queen's plate live from Woodbine Toronto can trainer. Mark Cassie continuous hot streak in the Gallup for the Guineas tune into find out. It's the queen's plate tomorrow, starting at four o'clock eastern on Sirius XM one fifty six as streaming live on your computer phone and mobile devices. At worse racing radio dot net. You're listening to the heart's racing radio networks. This is the weekend stakes preview. Presented by Nyerere vets into the stretch on contestant a forty four thirty two half mile uncontested powerful under a dry, three links, uncontested Trevor McCarthy put away this field the final for long uncontested and a wall of horses chasing, but look at uncontested uncontested inside majestic Dunhill rally through second, and then it will be the third close rocking on by do share the time one minute twenty one point zero six sparkling run from uncontested in General, George. Uncontested makes his first start trainer Tom Amos. Churchill Downs tomorrow closing weekend. Prince by welcome back to the weekend. Take the by naira vets, you're on H R R and for your back into stakes action. It's time now for the doors news update. And a look at the top headlines from blood horse dot com. Readers Cup plans to stay attend any for twenty nineteen after meaning of its directors twenty-seventh in Lexington. Kentucky Breeders Cup affirmed by unanimous decision its commitment to conduct a twenty nineteen world championship. Senator park, California of first and second, this one more time even help us in the most of any venue over thirty six year history of rediscovered. Conserves have been raised thirty horses died and raising training during the summer. Twenty six June twenty third, Santa, Anita meet just presidency of creek fables of the organization encouraged by the decisive substation by Santho Nita, own of the strana group horsemen, and the California worth racing to address point issue foremost, among the core values of rediscover the seam integrity of the competition, we hold ourselves a ho sites. And our competitors to the higher standards of both, it is that meaningful of forms and best practices have been implemented in recent months at Santa Anita, we look forward to showing the world the best in reverse. At one of its finest venue. Rose up tonight's vision of update. Are you getting the blow, or some other global stallions at that has continuously updated information over eight hundred in racing? Got the polls upcoming entries results, the app is free and works, both phones, and pamphlets now the app today, or go to stallions app dot com to learn more. Did not get a chance to talk to you about this yesterday. Pontiff little surprised by this decision. How do you feel? I was. I was surprised. But, you know, I think also you have to look at the fact that it's a little bit of a bizarre situation. I mean what happened in this kind of an outlier, you know, I've been going to these since I was three years old. That's one time. And there's been a couple of weeks where where things have happened when the weather's been bad, and it could have been handled much better than it had. But I think it's interesting that the Breeders Cup is standing behind. CNN nita. I think you know there's a lot of good trainers at stable say a needed or not risking their horses. If they think the track is bad certainly with the improved weather and stuff. It's, it's gotta be in great shape, and in the fall meet is usually pretty good weatherwise. So I think all in all it'll, it'll be a fine Breeders Cup. But, you know, it's just additional scrutiny that I don't think our sport really needs. Yeah. I, I was surprised and I was equally surprised and from being honest, a little terrified, we'll see what happens, hopefully everything. Hopefully everything goes well. Hopefully everything goes well. So we'll see. It's still got a few months and a lot of great racing until we get the Breeders Cup Friday and Saturday. Live a first and second at the great race place. Santa Anita wrap up the Gulf park coverage. Great three smile ago. Six furlongs for the horses two hundred fifty thousand on the line. Jude a field of seven in the smile golfer. I love a horse in here. Jalen journey. I was so impressed with his last race. Just was an out of body experience for me that horse ran incredible one turn mile at golf stream. I think he's super talented. I think we're looking at a star in the making here. I know he's gelding that doesn't get a lot of people excited. But he's a fantastic animal and. I like him a lot in this race. Jalen journey. Lewis is going to go to rod for Kathleen O'Connell three race win streak broke the main for fifty thousand. This was has been as smash mouth as it gets since performance a horse that I've had a lot of success. With Mike system. I'm gonna go back to the Jimenez. Well as well. He is had good results on almost every services really like a sloppy track, despite the fact that he's mornings, which doesn't make too much his wet track races. Leave a little be Zayed, but his dry track races, and his turf forma fantastic. I like performing. I think you have the right horse. Jalen journey is tough album performing to win. I'll make an exact box Jalen journey. I might even throwing a backup box with gutter and tie. He's really seemed to turn his career around since he cut back to the sprints for a while. They ran this long. In fact, for good. Seven or eight months. He was at a mile amount of sixteenth, or mile in eighth in need one going to mile. But I mean this source is he was a three year old facing all the cutting back sprinting. He's been tough. So I bought three of those one three five bucks that perform a one to win. It goes race number thirteen on the Saturday cargo Freeman great three smile sprint up at Churchill Downs. We had a couple of two year old races. But first, we have the Kelly's landing overnight stakes hundred twenty thousand on line seven eighths, out of the chute. We get a field of nine California night. Was entered at Canterbury last week he came out run on this spot for Mike maker, an uncontested uncontested set the track record done at laurel in December one, the General George. Then ran into a couple of crack sprinters and bobby's wicked. One in good olma, totally. Big drop in class from the toll in bobby's wicked. One promises, fulfilled to this bunch ho break from the rail on the McGill Mesa. Yeah. I you know, he's an interesting horse. He won those two racist back to back for Jennifer Paterson. And then they tried him in the Commonwealth didn't really pick up his feet that day showed a little bit of speed last time in a very, very tough races. You mentioned against Matola Matola freak. He's a whole different category. If this horse rebounds and it looks like the way he's working right now for Thomas. He's, he's gonna run one of his better races. He's going to be super tough to beat. I would hate to take a short price on, I'm not so sure seven eight thousand his best distance and, you know, you get the question Mark. Why do you rent so badly the last two times? I mean, last time, we can give him excuse for class time before that there's no excuse. He was the favourite rand terrible. So I'm not love with this race to tell you the truth. I, I looked at it from a lot of different angles, and I really couldn't find anything to sink. My teeth into. And I even I even got to the point where I was considering warriors club. Lived his life, one victory, Churchill Downs, where he paid a lot full and screwed up. Everybody's tickets. So I don't know. But if I had to bet, I would bet contested that I don't have to bet. Yeah. I like uncontested in here I like the train and change Tom. And you know this horse he's run well off the freshening. I think that's going to help him a little bit too, that seven weeks and the new Barna certainly going to help. He's drawn inside probably use some speed. We all man is good front and rider. I think there's a lot to like about him. I think you do worry a little bit. I worry a little bit that he might have been become worse for the course and maybe he's just more of a wall on awash was his two races at laurel other-worldly compared to everything else. He's run. I mean he's been. Since ational and the one race going seventy and sources you can handle he won. It's hard to really think he was going to be a big player in the Churchill Downs less time and. Yeah disappointed in the Commonwealth. Undoubtedly this morning, the Commonwealth. But I mean he found this friends in here. I think wars club beat them pretty well. The oh I in that Commonwealth. Maybe he can wake up the stranger things have happened. Certainly, but I'm gonna put my eggs in the uncontested basket from the rail that goes race number eight the Kelly's landing. Overnight stakes race number ten. The first of two two year old races that will cover the debutante is for the two year old Phillies, six wrongs with one hundred twenty five thousand on the line on wine, pretty big field and here pontiff. Magic dance Steve as most hall of Famer and Ricardo Santana junior and the team up here. She's coming back, just three weeks after a very impressive. Meet in scores. One way almost five lengths at eight to one. She ran eighty four Beyer speed figure. I'll tell you what the next closest buyer number. I know you like the prison that PP's next closest buyer number, in here is a fifty six as a sixty one rather. And that was the number two Indy takes charge. You broke I made in Churchill back on maith thirty first. But boy, they gotta find at least twenty three points on magic dance. Yeah. Well magic dance. She looks pretty salty. She's by more than ready. I don't know how she paid a two one in her debut. But, but she did. And she looks tough right back. Ricardo Santana takes over. He must have had a conflict that day because Brian Hernandez rotor in her debut. And I bet you he said that about pretty nice. Philly Indy charge. Also has the second best birth speed figure. Patrick Byrne has a small stable, and, and this could be a rising star for him. She blew out nicely to thirty five and to Churchill Downs. So I think that's pretty much the race. Those those are the two that that look best on paper. Chiluba lips comes in from California. Good California speed broke her maiden. First time out got a seventy nine which is which is right behind any takes charge. So I think you have to maybe consider her with Rossio Beheira. No. In the saddle she's getting blinkers to interesting move by Mike Harrington with Beth three and a quarter put blinkers on. So she's the only horse, I honestly think. What have any chance of beating magic dancing, because it's funny dude, you get a field of nine two year old Phillies at this time of the year. Only chew of them went wire-to-wire when they want my good girl who wanted in the anagram you'll in four and a half, and she'll who want to needed four and a half. The only two and now a little lifts. Come in with the blinkers in the California speed. I gotta think she's faster than my good girl who didn't show any speed in her first who starts, so I've gotta think truly lips in front having magic dances into far behind. If Santana doesn't just put magic dance on leave and say, you know what? I'm just going to get out of here. I'm putting villi on the lethal in. That's it. I think she will lips is the is the horse close the exact outlook because I see her getting loose on the lead. Magic dance. Just getting what all of you shake a stick. It gonna be magic Nance tomorrow at Churchill Downs. It goes race number ten the hundred twenty five thousand dollar debutante. We'll take a break. 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The final stakes of the meat. Puncher colts couple of gelding sprinkled in which land. Well, i'm. Chock eating weasel and take phantom, boss. The he comes in from California. He's a very fast horse trained by whore. Hey, para Bonn as a very good trainer doesn't have a big stable, but really knows what he's doing. He's trained for my family for several years and. He's not shipping. This horse to Churchill Downs for entertainment purposes. He's pretty conservative guy. So I, I like the fact that, that he thinks enough this horse to take them east and Rafeal Toronto, sticks with them. He must like him as well. I think this racist is a pretty wide open than him. There's, there's a lot of horses are several maidens in here. Yeah. That could possibly do some damage Keith a has verb in here for Kalua Matt. He's run to good races finish. Third sandy, the first time out. And then came to Churchill in ran third beaten a half length in a maiden race there. I think he's on the way up a little bit rowdy Yates, one for fun for Steve Asan. First time out of Churchill, he's by morning line who was a fast horse, and I think can probably get you a really fast horse Snell. Yeah. The two he's. Trained by John NS. He's a maiden in. He ran second last time out he he's not going to be the favourite of people that drafted Blake Snell in their fantasy drafts but can't have. So I don't know. It's a it's a it's a wide open race silent malice Patrick Byrne, getting back in action. He's got one in each of these races son. Palacio Rian v. I came back and ran third. He looks like you know, he's developing, but he might still be a racer to away. So I don't know who you like it here. I like Steve source I likes to vestments source far outside. I like rowdy gates, I like the racial, but of course, but that's just me. Yours makes lozenge phantom, boss. He got beat the four left or left came in for, for Doug O'Neill and won the Tremont during the Belmont Stakes racing festival by daylight, you gotta like phantom bosses. Well, I think the other uses verb, who was third to four left and phantom, boss. He came to Churchill just about a week in June two weeks ago and ran his eyeballs be three quarters three a half length. Now he comes right back. He's drawn outside as opposed to the rail. Tomorrow. I think he's the worst to use. Oh, I might box the three of them and play rowdy to win. Try and get verb in the number. It's an interesting Newell of grade three Bashford manor. Like you said, this maidens in Hanley earning made in, in the in the debutante now all the all the Phillies in the debutante had one, but it got a couple of interesting, raise the Bashford manor is a lot more interesting than debutante's. We'll see who emerges from the pack and gets ready to come up to Sarah toga for racist like the Saratoga special Sanford. 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That's four to six Sirius XM one fifty six fight nation. It all streams worldwide on your home for all of racing's biggest events and force racing radio dot net. The Charles barley will be running early on the card. In fact, it will be one of twelve thirty and the afternoon, a flat mile again. That's a one turn mile up. It would mind. This is for the three year olds a field of seven in here. Global access is even money now, global access one, the Marine One of the preps for the queen's plate. He's not eligible for the clean slate because he is a Florida bred. He's not an Ontario, Canadian bread. He has been good. He's even money on the morning line as even money. Good, jude. Yeah. I think he is his, his last race was very good. He beat sky wire who I think, has a big chance in the queen's plate before that. Sky, wire beat him two two and a half links. But he he's a real solid horse. He's got the the best her figuring the field by nine points, which is excellent carry hundred twenty four that might be a little bit of a knock on him. But he's the best horse Scott, Patrick husbands, who is one of the perennial leading writers here at Woodbine, and there's not a lot of competition in here. I don't think I think the racist kind of light, the only other horse. I was really interested in was the black album. Number three Flavian Pratt. Gets aboard. This one that can be an edge itself. Sometimes he's getting blinkers. He showed some brilliance in the mornings and in the afternoons, but he doesn't seem to be able to finish it out. And I think the blinkers could really help this horse was a great three. Winner in France, one law shop, so he he's got a lot on the ball. He just hasn't been able to put it together with American racing and they've been shipping Morandi ran a keenly. Rena Churchillian pen, now he's at woodbourne. So he's got a lot of frequent flyer miles, but not a lot of paychecks. So I think he might have a chance to upset and, and quite possibly being the exact try. But for me it's global access. Right. I like a horse. That's a little bit of a price. And I like more kassy's horse, most speed, most speed deep. You don't this one turn mile? It would bind went to the league times, even money and got a little tired that day he came back a month later. About six weeks later. Got the money over yielding ground. Same concourse. Same course went down to the fairgrounds. He ran well on off the turf race well-enough that you're going to give them a chance. He's and uncle mall. He ran. Now he had some trouble hard to load in that off the turf race ten saddle slipped. And he was eased in com. And Mark backed off. They Gill them now the they, they announced the gelding in February, which, like, this, this gilded for awhile. And now you see this work pet come back. I don't see a ton of speed in this race. I guess it's inventing blame. But man, it certainly looks like most speeds faster than hunting blame. He gets one of the leading riders up there because the Silva, I think he goes to the top, and I think he keeps on going global access will be the exact box but I'm gonna take a little shot with most speed. I like this is a price play that kick off the stakes action would tomorrow race to is the Charlie Bali like that name a good name. Ray six is where the graded stakes action begins. They will go that same flat mile in the Greek to King Edward. Flat mile on the turf. A field of eight hurt synchrony earlier. John Dooley was on the call. Little while synchrony foot back to back wins together been awhile since he put back good races together. We'll see if he can do just missed almanac in the great to Monmouth last time out, we'll make his first trip north of the border. Yeah. I thought that was a good sign his race last time out to almanac. You got the best speed figure. He's running his life on the turf any just just maybe period hundred one part for this levels, ninety eight was nice to see him return to form he's kinda had a rough. Winter and spring. But that, that was the old synchrony that was the synchrony. We know and love and he ran super that day have your casting on gets on them. I think that's encouraging if, if not for anything else from a mental standpoint. He's a horse to beat a mile is run two big races unlucky to lose both. I think but maybe, maybe he's a hanger. I don't believe that he is. I think he's he's just acclimating his race in the cannot Cup was pretty good. Just couldn't get by. That other horse, David marine who's had a very. Uncharacteristic light meeting continues to ride them, which I think is a good thing. He looks like might not be these source derived, and then Mr. Ritz girl, max entrant in here trained by new hall of Famer Josie Carroll. Just a really solid horse only has one bad race on his chart. He's by waste stream who is sensational stallion in this horse fires every time, I think he'll get a good trip to, especially if the, the one turn mile looks like he could just sit right off the pace and make a run Eurico Silva, just exceptional jockey, so lots to like about Mr. it, but I like old synchrony. I think he's, he's back in form and ready for a big one. Yeah. He he's a very logical player in here. Right. And you would think horse what his running style, but one turn probably going to shoot him. He really liked the one turn. I he may never been one turn over. Remember this running at Belmont, and besides Beaumont, and Woodbine. I can't imagine too many racist beyond seven furlongs that are one turn with that set. MS the number seven came to America. He ran a neck behind therapist and the allusive quality. He ran a neck behind Tormenta in the Cup those both at seven furlongs. He's never won going mile. He's over three. But he's gonna get leashes for the first time tomorrow afternoon. To rinse to route third off the layoff love, love love that angle love the angle and his two races. If he can step up a little bit put him right there with synchrony, probably a point or two hundred on the board. I like MS tomorrow. It looks like they're the two there's a pick five that starts in recip- probably going to be dabbling in that I'm gonna use the two of them. I'm going to bet a little money on them is to win, though. I think he can run a big effort that goes as race number six tomorrow. Great to King Edward, we'll take one more break when we come back. Three more, including queen's plate from would Manja listening to the weekend stakes preview. Presented by naira bats here on the horse racing radio network naira your online home force racing and betting with narrow vets. 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It's sweep six feels like. Again, sky wired to win the lawn over global access federal out third fourth candy crush him time of the mile mile at sixty one forty two and one Silva. Again. That was just for you. Sky wire in the Wando. Appointed in the marine. We'll see if you can get back to winning ways in the most important race up in Canada for those three year olds queens play tomorrow afternoon, right here on the horse racing radio network. Welcome back to we can stakes preview percents by naira bets here on H R, R N reach number eight at would mind tomorrow. Mount, according to the turf for the grade to dance, smartly, this one starts on the clubhouse, turn, one of the weirder configurations. We run a North America. Feel of eight Phillies mayors, go the ten panels, the queen's fleet winner from twenty seventeen is here. Holy helena. She was third in this event last year behind a couple of Chad Brown. Remers Santa, Monica the flexibility. You know, I don't know what happens on my racing form. I, I don't see Chad Brown horse in their mistake. Something happened. Maybe he didn't want to make the trip to Canada. He's got a lot of a lot of things going on south of the border. So. Like here. Well, you know, always like holy Helena. She's one of my faves, but rock. My love comes to this country with a hundred eight racing post rating, she's by Holy Roman Emperor. She's got excellent form in Europe. Fluffy prod takes the call. She has some nice works Belmont Park. I think she's gonna be a decent price. And I think she might be the best filly in the race. Holy hell Innis five. She's mayor. Now, she's had her ups and downs. Not, not the most honest mayor anymore. She runs good ones bad ones. I thought our last race. She got a horrible, right? She could have been much closer. And she ran against home wreak, who is going to be an important horse at Saratoga, this summer, I believe, and I think you do to, you know she, she said some racist, get some tough. Really CK s point is very nice. Nice mayor, and she ran it gets her twice. You know, since the beginning of the year, so I, I think, holy Helen is going to run well, but, but I'm gonna take the other Philly on top the other one I was interested in, in Persson Nile green motion takes over training here. She has been out since November the third, but she's got that dastardly one twenty six seven eighths work. That always tells green motions intentions in during Van Dyke takes a call and take blinkers off. That's the first time in her chart in the last ten races. She's gonna run without blinkers that sometimes really wakes a horse up, so she has some long shot angles in your favor. I, I don't think anybody's gonna be betting on her. I'm definitely gonna use her in my exact isn't tries it cetera et cetera. Right. A long shot, look fifteen to one of the Nile for the pontiff. Nice price play in. I don't have a opinion here. It's hard to really trust any of these horses. Lift up five for seven on the turf, and, you know, she got beat to Lisi as world, she got beat the valedictorian last year. And before that she had never lost on the turf. The Mouna quarter shouldn't be a problem. She's one test to do it off November layoff. But with a pedigree, I think amount of quarters shooter, just fine. I'll try lift up, but I would wanna use a bunch in Iraq. My love German-bred this. I'll be honest. This might be an all in that in that twenty cent pick five, we'll say that's wide open tepid selection for me with the number seven lift up race, number nine the grade one Highlander six furlongs on the turf. Field of nine in here. Christoph Lawton and Javier Castellano team up with white flag. This was an interesting. This is an interesting heat. Yeah. Yeah. I like white flag a lot. Six furlongs on the on the turf. It's kind of something that, that he enjoys. Ran a mile last time got a little tired. Those first off layoff, I think that was a, a leg up for this race. But that was back in January. So I doubt very seriously. That was the plan at the time. I don't know what happened to them in that race. But for whatever reason Christoph off gave him some time his works have been decent at Belmont. But this is where he makes his money in these six along turf. Sprints? So I think I think he's probably the course to be extravagant kid. This race might be a little long for him. He does say at six furlongs, right? No, no. I, I mean when I was handicapping this. How could that be right? I mean he's one going six furlongs, but that on the dirt, he's better going five and a half on the turf. I just I could see him making the lead, and then, you know, falling apart a little bit. The any might have enough to win. I'm not saying he can't win he definitely could win. And I wouldn't wanna get on. But. Would you point to your point right? Extravagant kid never run at six Carol clo one Elta mental once zero super smart over to Detroit steel. No stocks for trick to do. No starts wet your whistle to starts over to Yorktown. And then you see why flakes three for six the second and third two hundred thousand in the Bank. Right, right. White flakes kind of a no brainer. But there's a couple of you know, there's a couple of red flags, and I wouldn't want take a short price on them. You know, I mean I don't know. Are they gonna bet him down to eight to five or some ridiculous thing probably will be he probably? I mean that's what I was thinking. And then I, then I got to thinking you know, could Clint hill Farm Source caribou club. Could he make that big sweeping late run? You know he'll he'll be wide. We know trading a loop the field. You know, could he be the one to maybe run down the speed and, and, you know, and make it count. He's coming off a recent Dubai. That's a another question, Mark. I like the minute and one fifth breeze at fair hill. That was the second best of the morning on June twenty second last Saturday. So, you know, he's an interesting horse, too, but I mean, I don't know for me if I had to bet this race I went Vallon white flag. And if he's like five to or, or higher, I think that would be good. But I like white flag. An extravagant kid goes race in Highland raise tended to big one, the queen's plate field, a fourteen mile and a quarter on the penalty all weather. Right. You'd take any boy. Actually, I'm going to pick him second. I'm gonna take tone broke. Wow. I, I think this horse, as you know, I, I, I love sky wire, and I think he's super talented ours. But I think toned broke is really developing into a good horse and I'm gonna forgive those two races. That may Don which were absolutely hideous. I mean, I can't even believe they shipped them over early. They had such high hopes and he ran like. Terrible both times. But the came back to Pimlico ran second to king for a day in the Serb Artan. We all know king for day beat the horse that cross the line first in the Kentucky Derby, I think this horse is really nice horse. I love the fifty nine and two best in the morning work at Churchill on June. The sixteenth when you look at his form he, he can really run. And you have to remember, this is a state bread racer, you know, to its canadian-bred race. And, and I think this might be better than he sources. Okay. Yeah. I mean he he's one of five or six I would want here tone broke. I think you gotta like I think you gotta use vs flatter. I gotta use tone broke. I think you gotta use sky wire. I think you gotta use. Desert ride Philly for meal Howard. I'm gonna take a shot. One bad boy, just get into the top going and keeping on going to sprints start his career on the dirt, one of them against all Maha beach. He went on the turf. 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In The Gate #389 - Betting on Kentucky

In The Gate

29:59 min | 2 years ago

In The Gate #389 - Betting on Kentucky

"Delta's always striving to take the stress out of travel so you can focus on what comes next, including three messaging to keep you connected to the ground while you're in the air. Just connect to WI fi to us. I message Facebook messenger and what's after free purchase, not required messaging. Data rates do not apply. You've probably heard the line. There's playing for a team and there's playing for a team in New York where the media scrutiny is so much greater and expectations are higher, etc. Well, now there's legal sports betting in this country, but will there be sports betting in Kentucky where the racing industry is part of the culture will examine that question plus could a revolutionary new medical procedure make retiring force due to a ligament or tendon injury, a thing of the past and what might this treatment do for humans? We'll have all that and more on this edition of the gate. They're about to be. Strange. This is in the gate ESPN's thoroughbred racing podcast. My name is Barry Abrams. You can follow me on Twitter at Abrahams boys or on Facebook at Barry Abrams voice. You can also get us on our YouTube channel by searching investigate podcast and get us on soundcloud as well. Get us at the i. tune store or tune in dot com. You can get us on that little pink pod catcher app on your phone. You didn't even know you had and now you can subscribe to win the gate in the listen tab of the ESPN app for the full in the gate experience of scribe. Now in the listen tab of the ESPN app. As you undoubtedly know, the supreme court pave the pathway to legalize sports betting in this country and mid may by striking down a nineteen Ninety-two law which affectively banned sports betting and all. But three states most notably, Nevada since then legalized sports gambling. Operations have started up in five states including New Jersey, the state that took the case to the supreme court in the first place as of September. First, three other states have passed bills to allow it and operations will likely start soon. Now, Kentucky is probably the trickiest state where this issue comes up. Of course, the horse racing industry is very much part of the fabric in the Commonwealth, and there are many racing stakeholders who fear the industry being potentially crowded out by sports gambling. So you might find it surprising that Kentucky lawmakers who are pretty conservative as it is have not completely dismissed the idea of legalized sports, gambling. In fact, Kentucky is one of the fourteen states in the country that will introduce a sports gambling Bill into its legislature. Presumably these bills will be considered in their respective states during their legislative sessions. Early next year would sports gambling be allowed in Kentucky and if so, what ramifications would at half for the heart of the racing industry to help us figure this out. We've reached out to Marty Finley, a reporter for Louisville business. I and mister Finley is on the line with us here on in the gate house. Surprised were you that Kentucky introduced a sports wagering Bill at all? It was exit shocked. A one of us, especially in the media that's been covering sort of their obstinacy to casino gambling over the years. I mean, that's something that our previous governor fee Bashir had kind of have paint on one of his platforms. Ten twelve years ago was that he would like to see expanded gambling, be considered and approved in in the state to help. With some of the issues we have primarily, we've got a one of the worst funded pension system state pension systems for state workers in the entire country. It's got a chore fall, something like sixty billion dollars, and they're not really raising revenue anywhere else. So they were trying to find some new revenue sources. And even back then it was it was a problem at the only grown worse over time, and that was one way they felt they could kind of feed some new revenue in there, but that got very staunch resistance. And then when governor Bevin took office a few years ago, he basically said we have no appetite for casino gambling. So when the supreme court decision came down, I expected them to sit on it for probably several years. So the fact that they put this bipartisan panel together and a nail drafting a Bill that will be heard in January. It was available shock. I still don't know if it's gonna pass. There's going to be some resistance to it. There's some groups, advocacy groups that's going to fought it, but it will be heard in at least the debate. Needed this this upcoming session. Interestingly casino gaming is outlawed in Kentucky which has seen its tracks suffer while those in neighboring states like Indiana can combine racing and gaming in one operation. So why would Kentucky now consider sports gambling when they've outlawed casino gambling. That's the question that's still kind of looming out there. Like I said, the panel is by partisans. So you've got a Democrats or Republicans from both houses that are working on this, but some of the people that have now kind of wavered and supporting or at least appear to be supporting the sports gambling. They all have been opponents of the casino gambling in the in the case of the governor. He's not said he would support. It is basically to said he wouldn't veto it immediately that would read the Bill digested and then decide what he would do, should it past the two houses? I feel like it's got an uphill battle, but that is a question that we don't have a lot of certainty on his. What's the difference in? Why do they feel that this berry significantly from casinos the big argument with against casinos in the passes sort of in the morality issue of it is that you're an Ebeling bad habits or targeting the poor, that they'll go into these casinos and spend all their money and their life savings. And then they'll be broken destitute and they don't want to sort of enable that behavior. But you're seeing states, like you said, we're. Just a few miles here Louisville from a casino. So they're seeing those kind of benefits and Kentucky's been missing out on that revenue as supporters would say for for decades now. And of course, Churchill Downs has been kind of foul pushing for this. They've backed off a little bit in recent years, but they have been advocating for casino gambler gambling in Kentucky for years. But we have not gotten a good explanation of what the supporters of sports gambling, how they differentiate that from casinos and that may come up more in the in the session. I mean, you mentioned Churchill Downs than they've been focusing their business efforts on gaming more so than racing lately, you know to the satisfaction of its shareholders, if not many race fans a, how much did Churchill's influence have on Kentucky introducing the sports gaming Bill? I think it definitely helped. I mean, they really jumped out and announced in partnership and national partnership with a company, SB tech. They're going to build out the. Platform for their online sports books as well as gaming. Some of the online poker casino top gaming that they are starting to look at in Pennsylvania and and New Jersey, and then also Mississippi in the actor casinos. So they're they're doing a mixture of online and brick and mortar sports books, but they come out within within a week and said, we've got this partnership ready to go. We're looking to establish in three and three states right out the gate. I'm imagining that did put a little bit of pressure on on the state to at least look at it and then give it some fault. But I don't know how much of that was influenced Churchill Downs, and also we will see how much influence they have income Kingery if they can kinda sway some of the legislators specifically in parts of the state where maybe Churchill bounce have as much influence in the in the far east of state specifically. So it remains to be seen. They just open their new instant racing facility here. They looked that over on poplar level road on the road sports spectrum operations actually tour they yesterday, but that is another thing that they're bringing into to bring some increased revenues, particularly for the Kentucky horseracing industry to boost purses for some of the different races. So they're taking a couple of different tax to, like you said, expand their gaming presence. Well in Kentucky and nationally you mentioned online and we'll get to that Pandora's box in the minute. But at a recent sports wagering symposium, Kentucky's state Senate majority leader, Damon Sayer who has always looked out for racing interests said that he expects racetracks to offer sports gambling with the percentage of revenues supporting Kentucky racing and breeding how realistic is that arrangement? Do you think. The remains to be seen. Yeah. You said Damon has been very supportive of horse racing and their interest in the past. You're hearing some other legislators saying that maybe some of the money would be funneled toward infrastructure education. I'm sure there'd be some people pitching some sort of pension, so it remains to be seen. The numbers were hearing right now, if the state does legal is this is what you would be seeing taxes, the backflip tax revenue that would be coming into the state would be filtered toward anywhere from five to thirty million. So that's pretty big gap. If turtled has done a lot of sports books. Imagine some of that would be invested back into the horse racing industry. I don't know how much of that or what percentage it would be, but I don't know how much if any of the tax revenue would be reinvested by the state into the industry. It would probably have to come through some of the private companies or Churchill Downs, which of course is publicly traded. So that's more of a wait and see thing that I'm Agean Churchill would want to reinvest in its own facilities, but also the industry is all. Bharti Finley of Louisville business. First joins us here on in the gate. What do Kentucky horseman and track operators other than Churchill, which we've mentioned, think of this sports gambling, potentially being legalized in the state? I'm hearing mostly positive. I'm not. I'm not really hear anything negative course right now, Churchill Downs and Keeneland have been working together. They're looking to build a couple of tracks in other parts of the state that they would co own as a joint venture. They're also going to be doing some harsh racing or at least try to. They've made a pitch to the horse racing commission to relaunch harness racing here in Louisville for a limited Tom. So they're working together on some on some different things to help the industry. But from what I'm hearing about it in the horse racing industry largely positive, they feel that they can pretty smoothly work with into their existing Param each wagering. The question I'm hearing in both locally and nationally is what impact some of the league's will have with their integrity phase. Of course. That would be something that the state would have to look at it. They would institute a certain percentage to go to the leagues that are being bet on. And then also there's some of the tax rates. I know the Churchill Downs, sexy said, we are a little concerned if the rate is extremely odd. I think in Pennsylvania, they were saying the tax rate could be as much as thirty four percent. So they don't wanna be basically text out a market. So that'd be another thing that you really have to look at in Kentucky as what that tax rate would be on the on the bedding. So that's things that they're looking at both nationally in church rebounds. I think some of these others keen on including we'll be looking at closely. They wanted here, but the tax rate to be so burdensome that they don't feel like it's something that can actually do and make money off of. Do you think these people are aware of the trend over the last twenty five thirty years of these casino interests in this case, sports, gambling interests, using race tracks as an entree to open brick and mortar gaming operations. And then after a few successful year saying, why are we keeping this racing thing afloat? I mean, possibly, that's something that we've heard from casino opponents is, you know, I've heard a few people say that it could hurt her sharing racing industry. I don't know. That's something I'm not really an expert on and hair locally. If that would kinda usurp the the impact of horse racing of course, Churchill Downs. They definitely want to protect the industry, but there could be outside interest as you said that could come in and attempt to, I guess, bump that or try to overtake it in some in some respects. Now you talked about online and Churchill Downs has an established advanced deposit wagering platform where you can bet races twinspires.com presumably wouldn't be that hard to add sports gambling there, which would guarantee Churchill revenue even when gambling is allowed in more than just brick and mortar locations. What about the other tracks in the state? Keeneland Dallas park turf wake. Kentucky downs, which just concluded how ready are these places to handle online sports gaming or even online thoroughbred wagering for that matter. Yeah, that's a good question. Churchill, I think is more position better than those because they have that experience through twin spires and a well we've heard is that church was probably better geared than most companies on a nationwide level quickly. Turn that around, of course, with Churchill, they would have a different platform than twin spires, but the other tracks, I think they have a little bit of catching up to do from where church with simply because they don't have that platform and they don't have that experience so that that it will be remained to be seen have if they'll have to build their own platform or he'll be able to do at similar partnership at Churchill Downs done in have someone come in and basically do the actual on platform functions for them the back office and sports stuff. But I do think that they definitely have a leg up on most companies because of the twin spires experience. They built over the last several years. So bottom line, I mean, how do you think this all plays out with the potential for sports, gambling in Kentucky and how it impacts racing? I don't. I mean, if I was having being. Asked, you know, to bet on it. I would say that I, I don't see it passing this coming session. I think there'll be a lot of discussion and I think it would probably be defeated now in, I do think there'd be more sport Bild. I do think we'll see it, but I don't see Kentucky making that kind of one eighty this quickly and passing this. If they do it will be heavily contested as far as racing. I do think we'll see some immediate benefits long-term. I don't know what that would mean for them to coexist with Horford saying these being so intertwined in the state. There could be some competition and some problems there in the future. But I said if it's passed, I think short term, you'll see some benefits long-term that that's still a big question, but in the media, short term with him still working on bail out, do see that probably being defeated at least this year, but it will return. And eventually I think it will gain passage. It is tough to put the genie back in the bottle, very interesting situation to be played out Lardy filet. Thank you so. Much for your insight here. This is a story that's not going away anytime soon. Thank you. We're going to take a short break here on the gate, but when we come back a potentially revolutionary way to keep horses and potentially humans healthy after injuring tendons, ligaments don't go anywhere. This could be big. Welcome to belt official retail department store the SEC with department stores in the southeast. We get your passion. We know it's more than a game. It's a way of life and part of the modern southern lifestyle we deliver every day at belt. You'll find new looks from the best brands like Michael Kors. Frye free people under armor and more all at great prices. You'll love the fashion, you desire the value you deserve. That's modern southern style experience today in store or at belt dot com. Welcome back to the indicate podcast. All have another Zaeri Damascus. Now, even Saxon warrior, all of these horses and so many others had to retire due to tendon injuries. Tendons attach muscle to bone in the case of all have another. Of course, his tendon injury came the day before a potential run for the triple crown in the two thousand twelve Belmont Stakes. Now, a researcher in Nottingham England along with colleagues in Russia may have developed a procedure to Hilo horses tendon or ligament injuries in just a matter of weeks with no scar tissue left behind. In fact, this breakthrough maybe so significant. It might be able to help human tendon or ligament injuries just as much as those of the Ecuadoran variety for all these reasons. We think this is a topic worth exploring on the show. So to do that. We welcome to win the gate Dr Katrin Rutland of the university of Nottingham in the UK. Thank you so much for a few minutes Dr. Now, I am not a doctor nor do I play one on TV. So in layman's terms, explain how this procedure works. So well, professor Vincent and his team has done is taken gene, which a whole specific genes in this case. And they've been at the two in Jackson into an area of injury. So in this case, it's injuries in whole is and the complicated names, the superficial digital flex tendon, and they suspend to the nicotine launch, but typically injuries to those Anna's 'cause they missing horses. So what then happens is the James co teams, which he'll the areas of the tens and the and so I need to get a quick recovery me of those tissues. But. Also, you don't get any scar tissue, which is contested because it means that the have is less likely to become the ended later on. So it's using genetic therapy, which is a bevy it's all technique of a new technique to help these injuries in order to get in this case, these horses by contract back to trusting running gotta Pentagon. No, it seems that you determine that the reason these ligaments tendons don't heal as well as we wish they would is because they don't get enough blood flow. So how does your procedure affect that. Glut is really important for an to heal, the not helps the nutrients and the oxygen to the injured tissue and actually helps it to the still again. So one is the ideal situation would be if we can increase the blood flow to that area, we can increase the healing time. And what we've looked at using techniques called Doppler imaging is that we've been up to see that these two genes actually helped to create new blood vessels in the engine bay, which facile helped the to get nutrition helps the oxygen and basketball encourages healing. And the interesting thing was off the the past may've with the jeans was injected into the, we saw an increase in blood vessels, and as the area became healed, those blood vessels would not need it anymore because the normal blood vessels could walk. And so that was again at the crease in blood vessel. Which very Thomas thing to say, well, I didn't realize that blood vessels could come in go like that. If they once they're, they're, they're actually it's interesting because it happens all the time very naturally in the human body and in most animals. But as we divide up, we grow these blood vessels to support all tissue, and then other times important times in blood vessels pit. For example, when women pigment, she has to create extra blood vessels and the percents has to go extra blood vessels in order to feed the baby. So it's very Noma not tippety that if it's on you get injured, you may want the team to try to fix the bike, loving me up festival. Soon away. This technique is mimicking or enhancing what the bull de would try to do naturally, but it's giving a big to boost if you like, no, you touched on this a moment ago saying that gene therapy stimuli. Dates, the necessary repairs to the tendon or ligament. What exactly is gene therapy in this case? And exactly what role does it play? GM therapy is a new and imagine fed of pay where we take James not to the cove in the ball and have normal natural function. We put them into the Avot, but most needed. So something that both he would already be trying to, but we still have an haunt the amount and put exactly in the lights have. Yeah. So for example, we've you Puccini speech. Yes, an s. Jeff, too. And those teams normally responsible for helping to create new cells, create new blood vessels. And so what we do is they come in the next trip is by cutting those genes in to help those functions. Now, none of the horses you used in your study were thoroughbreds. They were different breeds including a Russian saddle horse, a Dutch warm blood. And an end delusion. Now what differences, if any, did you notice between the breeds in terms of their anatomy what the horses are used for and therefore, what kinds of different injuries they suffered, their ability to heal using the procedure, etcetera. In order to actually look the difference between say that there's some great with need a fair number of different threes to be able to make a conclusion about that. We did see differences between the distant whole says in the cover, right, but also they had slightly different injuries from each other. So it's on pull some had big attest to the tendon. So we can't many yet store conclusions about the differences between the different three in, for example, how quickly they mend in old. It's do that. We'd have to have lots of the same made and they'd have to have exactly the same Jimmy, if that makes sense. But what was encouraging was the old we use all of these different types of holes is the most of them spawned so well to the therapy of cruel, which is sometimes stick because it means that whether they might be racing horses or dress on tool says, who said that the pledge of I thing. They can potentially benefit from this gene therapy. We're talking here on the gate with Dr Katrin Rutland of the university of Nottingham. What is the nature of this so-called plasmids DNA drug that was used to treat these horses as this drug that's available to horsemen. Tell me about this. This job is new gene therapy is complete. You know, it's the first time it's been used in horses, and it was developed by professor Albert list enough at Kazaam federal univesity. So this really is a novel massage paper that shows how it works. So so fall, it's most hatching if I had to the vet clinics not own you treatments has to be checked contested to make sure they walk. However, one of 'em is eventually one day we'll be able to get this treatment out into clinics. I'm just cool train clinicians in how to use gene pace because it's such a new technique. So what does this drug actually do? So if Tiffany it is to genes too inept housemates I'm they jeans make pro teams, but help only to build up the tissue, the boat, continue the engine tissue, but also and coaches. Blood vessels to grabbing the Attia made up vessels, help the abbey to oxygen and those nutrients through the area so that it can be stalled quickly. So it's mimicking the natural, these stunts, but innovate ten logically advanced way, thus helping the injured AMI to heal quickly. Very, you write that the horses maintained a low level of exercise activity than a warm up, walk a Trotter and then increase in intensity. How successful was this process? I believe I read that not all the horses responded well to the treatments. How successful was the process. So they genes have was put together with a bevy Kathy climbed procam exercise. So or the whole is one of could all of the time to make sure that injuries were healing well, and we went pushing them to quickly with exercising and he. Hold on. We'll know that the exercise regime opposite advice to now I happened one of the horses on the try outs at the ten actually got an Jimmy on a completely different limb and that meant of cool that we able to really continue with the trial because we couldn't say wholesome line because it was also relying on another leg and that was completely different injury. Another of the whole of improved the little, but not back to full fitness as the full. So we also confronted the this was note for healing, so we will have the pool to this whole was not many able to heal, but the other eighth hole is pervasive festival. And indeed many of them are now back the competition level at the onus choice and give them that they were fully healthy and back to fitness. Now, this was one study I made if this process is ever to be implemented regularly, how many more. Comparable studies need to be done. What else needs to be done. This is a cool is one of the big questions and it's one of what do we do next most definitely, it's a very promising study to is only ten horses. So what we need to do next is we need to start looking in Mojo says, we need to take out into the clinics and is very difficult to tell whether a treatment works or what's competitively to another treatment and ten. Of course, many horses come through all comments as to how big that number is. Of course, as you sort of creep up into the hundreds of thousands, then you can start comparing it to data that we've already got from the president presentations and present treatments, but going to take a one until with fully aware of exactly comedy horses can heal how quick did I heal the different types of injuries and how they heal. So it will be aligned yet. Now, healing horses and getting them back into competition is a wonderful and noble goal. But if this process really works on horses, what possibility is there that it could do the same for human tendon ligament injuries. This is something excited about. So for this study, the genes will host the fick how what we could do the same, but humans. And so this is a buddy by promising amu-, but when extending into also humans, dogs and other animals, and it's not just tendons, ligaments that we are interested in this type of data pay. These techniques could potentially work and other avenues of human and animal medicine. The therapies all being different ones in human Sipho again on the sort of clinical trial data. But this could be revolutionary in the way that we treat humans and other animal studies. I think we can rebuild him. We're getting closer to the day of the biotic athletes with this process well underway. Well, thank you so much for sharing this with us Dr Rutland this is very, very promising. Thank you. Bye. Snakeskin a pleasure speaking to you. Thanks Dr. Katrin Rutland and mardi Finley, I don't bet very often. So I never heard of the practice of breakage which doesn't mean you break you buy. It means that when there's the payout of a bet it's rounded down to the nearest dime, and it's hard to believe just why the breakage practice was designed to keep the betting windows moving without the need to fumble for small change these days. That's less of an issue since so much beddings electron IQ, but even years back, the practice still seem rather strange for one better. The difference of a few cents isn't much but multiply that over the length of a year and the tracks walking away with a lot of the betters, well, earned money and the more this comes to light. The bigger fear is that coupling breakage with a higher takeout rate than other gambling makes betting racing lesson Tyson play yet. One more reason that in the absence of a commit. Listener of racing this sport cannot get out of its own way. You've been get us on our YouTube channel by searching in the gate podcast. You can get us on soundcloud as well. Get us on the I tune store or tune in dot com. You can get us on that little pink pod catcher app on your phone. You didn't even know you had. And now you can subscribe to indicate in the listen tab of the ESPN app for the full. The experience of scribe. Now in the listen tab of the ESPN app and you can follow me on Twitter at Abrahams voice or on Facebook at Barry, Abrams boys that's in the gate for this week. I'm Barry Abrams. We'll see you next time.

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GRIPH Project, Kentucky Derby Preview and RBA for Sep 4, 2020 by Kentucky Performance Products

HORSES IN THE MORNING

40:40 min | 4 months ago

GRIPH Project, Kentucky Derby Preview and RBA for Sep 4, 2020 by Kentucky Performance Products

"This is horse radio network. Four horses in the morning. You're listening to the number one horse podcast in the world. Here's your entertaining look at the Horse World and the people in it. WHO Well happy Friday everybody I am Glenn the Geek in Ocala Florida and I'm Jamie Jennings and I'm in Norman Oklahoma. And you're listening to horses in the morning on the Horse Radio Network for September Fourth Episode Twenty Five twelve brought to you today by Kentucky Performance Products Good Morning Worse people. Congratulations you made it to free style Friday that means Jamie and Glen are here to lead you into the we gag with some fun horse talk in some really bad ads on horses in the morning. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for joining us. It is weird. We are in September and we are talking about the Kentucky Derby not. But this year's Kentucky Derby so and I was putting the sound together for today's show and this is just weird. I. Know that a friend of mine daughter's like she's so excited to have her birthday on Derby Day they're gonNA Derby Birthday Party. The only time she ever. Has she said so yeah, we're going to give you the our annual rundown only the way we can do it of the Kentucky Derby. If you're looking for a serious reports on the Kentucky Derby, I'd go to the Pollack Report because you'll find the actual coverage over there. We're going to give you the fun sort of lighthearted just. This is meant for people who follow the Kentucky. Derby. Only 'cause we talk about it. That's what it's meant for. We give you just the kind of colorful rundown. Yes. Exactly and we're going to do some really bad ads for you. It's been a couple of weeks. We know we know it's been a couple of weeks. But before we get to that, I did want to mention that I worked this week on getting finally after twelve years of the horse. Radio, network we have an official merchandise store. That's right. We have a complete line of screen printed stuff and you'll find links on our on our horses in the morning facebook page. Put them there last night. So you're gonNA find a complete line of screen printed stuff including everybody has to wear masks. Now we have a nature en masse. Now we have horses in the morning mass now and we have a retired racehorse radio masks now I love it I love them. Yeah. So all of those are available plus we have t shirts and sweat. Screen printed We have bags we have all kinds of stuff in the store now, and I actually ordered one of the sweatshirts cause havoc radio network sweatshirt. So you can find those you can find links to those, and of course, we have all the embroidered merchandise that the distance depot does for us. So now you can get screen printed or embroidered, and you'll find both of those links. It's not fair that the Samsung cases two dollars cheaper than the iphone case some called wise that is either you know I have no idea but you didn't set the price. So no I've just comes that way but I think it's iphones costs more and they can just charge Boorda iphone. X.. Little Dog, Hoodie they. Argue, they do have kid cudi's surprised. Yes they do and we're going to be adding to the line and adding more of the show logos and stuff. But that already took me hours to get done but I'm glad it's done. We finally got it done. So for this Christmas, you'll be able to buy all kinds of stuff for your horse radio network fans. Daily anytime. Well, my daily Winnie is a happy birthday to a few people. Happy, birthday to Meta Jeffrey Sandy. Roz Venus Rosanna is. I have no idea or and emily would say should know your last name to. An emily would, of course who is still recovering by the way she was the host of the jumping episode here every month and she still recovering still at home is getting better. So she's hoping to beat the barn soon that's been over a year now. So we're wishing her well and want to say thank you to Shantelle. She wrote a really really Nice Review of the Horse. Radio Network on us today and you know I it's been a as as you guys know it's been a tough couple of weeks for me Jamie and everybody else and I just really needed today. So thank you shouldn't tell I appreciated that. Greatly. Oh. My Gosh. I got something in the mail yesterday that is possibly the cutest thing ever, and it is a crown like the Queen would wear more like a t ARA and April sent it to me. She's a listener she's Teixeira and it's in relation to she said, I have to wear it when I meet the Queen so At Dri every the green. But I might you never know she wants pictures. I. Promise you this that between yesterday and right now there are no photos of me wearing that and I'll tell you because I have not loved photograph -able. In the last forty, eight hours that bad. Hey apparently, we before we get to our Kentucky Derby coverage here we caused quite a controversy with our British and our Australian listeners, and you are American listeners that have ever lived over in Great Britain or apparently there are more of them than we thought Ileana Room. We mentioned just casually I don't even know how on Wednesday we talked about marmite right. and. K. Remember even with we talked about vegemite or Marmite I. Don't remember which but we talked about one of them and it was just in passing and I said, yeah, we should do a taste testing on the air for the first time we both drier well Jeez that caused quite a stir apparently. The vegemite is Australian and more might is English and they're both yeast extracts and I kind of looked up and put his it looked gross like black. Yeah. He ever remember you said something about comparing it to new tell it and I'm like I'm pretty sure it has no I just said no, no Tele I tried on the air for the first time here too and it was really good and I like Nutella but so. Some of the comments most said I haven't listened yet but I'm married to a South African where more might. In all, its yeast extract disgustingness is hugely popular. We can get it in her grocery store in Texas. It's a big nope from me and convinced the crap they scrape out of old Guinness. Barrels without the benefit of the GIN it's sounds. A couple of people said, Danielle said that we're not gonNA like it. You'll both hated she said. It's a childhood acquired taste. Did He Baloney Child? Alex said Vegemite is not my friend I've tried it when we were when I lived in Australia's a kid and just couldn't do it. So apparently now we have to try both so I'm going to order US some vegemite and Marmite, and we'll do try. We'll do a taste test on the apparently I've been instructed to you have to have it on toast that's required. It has to be toast. It has to be the whitest fluffy crappiest host that you can buy not good toast. You have to put a little bit of butter down first and then a little bit of this on top apparently, you can't put a large it's not meant to be a lot. It's just little. So I've gotten instructions now on how to do this. Maybe we'll get one of our Australian friends on with us to guide us through it when we do the testing, but we are sorry we such controversy on Wednesday well, I love I andrew to said that it's a childhood acquired taste and that he's like like you Americans like cinnamon and he's like he finds that discuss. Worldwide thing. Ten minutes. Amazing. Yeezy. Apparently, he thinks that's not okay. She's obsessed with Marmite. So cinnamon honey butter. Any better. Anyway, let's hear from Kentucky for its products and then talk about the Derby in September. She swallowed hard as they walked into the start box she could feel his muscles tense under her leg. By four, three, two, one have a great ride. She didn't have to ask he galloped out of the box and across the field toward their first training level course his ears pricked her heart pounded. He attacked each obstacle with confidence clearing them with room to spare. A huge smile broke out on her face as she crossed the finish flags she leaned forward and buried her face in his neck, their bond of love and trust blocked out all else. This love story is brought to you by elevate research proven to have superior bioavailability elevate supplies the essential vitamin. E. Often missing from the equine diet, it's all net. Supports healthy muscle and nerve functions. The horse that matters to you matters to Kentucky Performance Products Call Eight, five, nine, eight, seven, three, two, nine, seven, four or visit KP USA dot com to order today. horseracing in Kentucky is rich in history dating back to seventeen eighty, nine win. The first race course was laid out Lexington. It was almost one hundred years later in eighteen seventy five that churchill downs officially opened and began its tradition as the home of the Kentucky. Traveling in England and France in eighteen, seventy, two and seventy, three, twenty, six year old colonel meriwether Lewis. Clark devise the idea of a Louisville Jackie Club for conducting race meets upon his return from Europe Clark began development of his racetrack which would serve to showcase that Kentucky breeding industry. The track would eventually become known as Churchill downs, eighty acres of land approximately three miles south of downtown or at least from Clark's uncles John Henry. Church up. For his inauguration Clark created three major stakes races, the Kentucky, Derby Kentucky Oaks, and Clark Handicap all modeled after three premier races in. England. The EPSOM Darby epsom Oaks and the St Ledger. The track formerly opened may seventeenth eighteen, seventy, five with four racist scheduled. The winner of the first race was bonaventure. However, the winner of the days featured event. The Kentucky Derby was a three-year-old Jesse coaling aristocracies I. DO GRANT was unveiled in eighteen ninety-five topped by two spires they came to be known as the twin spires a simple architectural element. And would become a symbol of Churchill downs and the Kentucky Derby. As the Kentucky Derby grew in popularity. So did the racetrack. Since opening in eighteen seventy five churchill downs has continued to evolve undergoing many renovations while embracing the future of horse racing. But as thousands visit these hallowed grounds, each year, the history traditions and mystique Churchill downs remained true. As, one of the most legendary horse tracks in the would. Welcome to Churchill downs. It's Kentucky Derby. Day on we're at Churchill downs in Louisville with a record crowd. Watching of America's leading three year olds brain to the post Arab keep your eye on the host moving out from the inside rail into the believe that's what admiral and side there goes Raymond Earl firm right there in challenging the clean way Susan. Six back next horse serve serve. Skin. Together. Dusty Homes in. A the. Third, sweet northern savings picked his way through the tax. Role in the clear. They move into the turn. Turney. Wait. Top. As big. From Beckenham? Second California One. Second. Secular Kate is in the center of the race track and writing Jackie Greene now dropped. On a bit is forego native on the outside? No in the. Sex BECKFORD Terry, decorative period on the outside the Dick. Believe. I'm holding a second if secretary of moving away by two and a half jam then on the outside our new. Secretary on. The second. Strikes. Against Thorough, who's taking the lead on the outside but clean horses rig live Darkman is. They come into a cradle for long American thorough, fiery glide not done yet as to. Buy Those. Beckham arrogant. By relied dark minister prophets. Gummakonda finish American barrel actress. Talking. Good, magic and Jose Ortiz. They come into the final furlong robots on center the track then that audible the. Third Justify tooling later, they come to the widow sixteen but magical of the outside, a separate audible concerned that it's still regard the. Buyer piece. Just by as. As Well that doesn't get you going. Use bombs and I have breaking news and I can't figure out why? Finnick. The fierce would is a is a gelding that sold for one dollars one I he just scratched really it says on Kentucky Derby Dot Com. But there's no reason why he scratched and I can't seem to find it. That was incredible story to bought for three thousand dollars. One I lost it a from a congenital cataract like when he was a baby. and. It was haggard equine medical that that did I guess did the surgery So it just scratch I mean just refresh the page and it wasn't scratch go. Fifty to one longshot to. I know but I was so pulling for divert another mind the bird up. We're GONNA on the list of the horses and you know all the post positions and odds are online but we wanted to give you the real reason that the horses the most interesting part for Glenn is the names. That's how he picks all the winners or all the people they think are going to win that usually never win So I was just GONNA run down we can kind of go back and forth if you want Glenn and we'll start with. It will go alphabetically and start with. Attachment rate attachment rate. Co Owner Jim Blake is president of the Sub Zero Freezer Company, which makes luxury refrigerators and the history of naming horses related to his business. So apparently, attachment rate is some sort of like named for some business thing, but I'm not a business person. So I don't know I've no idea either actually to be honest authentic is Peter. Plum. The breeder named authentic as a tribute to the colts damn flawless. We believed in the horse. We honestly did he said he was one of our best yearlings. So that's For sure. In an authentic by the way is expected to do very well one of the top favorites here in this race and forcible trainer Markazi said owner John Oxley was just looking for a strong name and to the best of his knowledge it has no referential meaning is just enforceable, which is kind of a tough name. It is kind of a tough name. It's a good name actually. Yeah. I'll give you that one honore piece, of course. Ridden by Mike Smith. So, tasseled had mentioned that and he was second as last start but they're expecting would do very well and he's supposed to do quite well again of course, Mike always does quite well. That's His name is interesting because he was named Hollywood hero as a tribute to his damn Hollywood story. But then he was renamed honor AP after a pnd has grand sire passed away in February at the age of thirty. Well, this is a sheriff source to, and if you remember right sheriffs and Smith were the combination that won the two thousand five Kentucky Derby. With Giacomo. And Roads in the oddest. You know. You can hold a grudge, CANTU. King Guillermo was sad. Yeah. But he's also scratch to came up with a fever this morning. So owner Victor Martinez who the Major League Baseball all-star are you getting what I'm getting like luxury businesses and professional athletes? That's who can afford a derby horse well. is named Kim Gear After Dad Oh. So now he's not running either they will lead that new gate? There won't be any horses left got away with this. Major. Fed. is another one and that's named after tennis star Roger Federer. Perfect. So that's how that got that name Max player refers to a player who receives maximum contract in the NBA Max player is named after the Charlotte Hornets Rookie PJ Washington Junior. That's stretch. Money moves is another horse that when Robert Lapente bought his horse last year to Calabria to say offer nine, hundred and seventy, five, thousand dollars I return to our room after the purchase and hurt our wife singing. The Cardi B.'s Song is it Bodak Yellow Bodak yellow? whose main line is money moves, and that's how they got the name and and. Do you think the wives got to go shopping after husband just spent nine seventy, five thousand dollars on a horse. Well, they're shopping right now again, the perfect derby hat. The only ones there with won. Miss, a big news was named as a tribute to these sire giant's causeway. That's where they got the big from. They were hoping he would be a big talent, any was and he made big news. So that's What they're going for. Well necker island. You might have heard that name before it was a horse and that's because it's the Richard Branson's private island in the Virgin Islands necker island. So and he was one of course, a founded the virgin group which just went bankrupt. I think the entire island operates as a resort and you by the way can go there did you know that Jamie me luxury resort? I Bet I can't? No you can if you have eighty, seven, thousand dollars that. Night. Wow. That's expensive. You'd. Probably, be cheaper to buy a stake in the horse actually honest, Nice New York traffic easy was bred in New York and sired by cross traffic. That's an easy one solve allante. It's Italian for flying son. So that's how it got the name. south. Bend was a horse originally owned by Sagamore, farm's which is under which is owned by under armour founder think the under armor founder you stone, and so the name was a nod to one of under armor top clients, Notre, Dame, which is. itself. References in the names this year a lot of very wealthy owners. Yes. Exactly. Storm the court tribute to the Damn, my Donna Tejan, a storm and the sire court vision. You know I hate when they do that I know it's it's common and that's the thing to do but it's just boring I love that though I love it because then you. Can like. You know he's related abnd somehow Tis the law the damaged his viz and the Cyrus Constitutions Tis the law named after an by the way he's the favourite he he's six to five right now because the law. Yeah. Thousand words I skipped while thousand words is in there too. He's He's on the favorites list in he just won the shared beliefs stakes beating honor AP. So he opened his racing career with three straight wins before losing three in a row. So he's had kind of a mixed career, but it's going to be interesting because this is the first year that we're waiting longer. You know these horses have had longer to develop and run. So I think that's GonNa Change it a little bit too. with impression is a tribute to the sire painter and says, my my gym Pearl. The CO owner says my daughter WHO's fourteen named the Horse. She's picking a famous artists and not to painter and picked Monet and Monet's famous work is winning impression there you have it. He says, well, well, some of these people do stretch to. Get to name super. Well the Derby is to borrow it has on Saturday and post time is set for approximately seven Oh one eastern time. You can watch it on NBC is going to be doing the coverage now there is no. So I have a serious question for you because that's what we do here on this kind of coverage is. Tara Lapenne skin. And the other guy. Yeah. Are they going to be there because there's no chance to talk about and no fashion to talk about I don't know I don't. I. Mean. Are they cut out this year because there's like nobody in the stands this is going to be really weird to watch and do you think like like baseball and football is going to be in basketball? Are they going to pipe in the fan noise? I don't know I gotta be honest with you I'm glad they do we watch baseball here and I'm GonNa once they started piping in crowd noise may turn forget about the fact that it's fake crowd noise to yeah. Yeah. Just sound it just seems more normal. Do they ever show the empty stands? Or. Do they try and avoid that I? Do, get a home run and Cut outs like ask yes and it's What's really cool about that is you can buy your own body to be set in the stands and you pay and the money goes to charity, which was are you in? Are you in the night I can't say that I waste money on things like. Too many other things to waste money on. So there you go right now. That's that's the rundown. You know that's our coverage and again, it just seems like a weird year there. You know normally on this day I go over how many juleps are going to go through and I give you all the stats on the weird stuff. Well. It's going to be kind of limited. It's going to be a worse. That's it owners and trainers. That's their masks all wearing card to drink Mitchell up with the mask on. So yeah, and it's been a weird year all around I mean we've had very baffert getting in trouble in a couple of states. It's just been a weird year. So anyway, we'll see what happens tomorrow. We'll watch the race and will we have another triple crown winner? A lot of people are saying yes but then they say that every year. So. We'll see well, it was an interesting if you wanna hear kind of how they're working that go listen to the retired racehorse episode because we had a derby betting guy come on and talk about it and it made a lot of sense you know all of the Kentucky Derby reason triple crowns through his have been run at different distances and at different times. So it is interesting they're not gonNA put an asterisk on it. It's going to be just the way that it is so but the think that they'll be a an unwritten S. curious asterisk always. I. Think Twenty Twenty in general. Is it the whole year? That's true. I agree with that. I definitely agree with that. All right. Let's do some really bad ads pay. You can pay attention if you ain't met one by now you're bound to sooner or later. He says one thing it means another. Hey can't help. He's a horse trader or straight. Lazy Fair. Let the buyer beware. All straight. The. Hail. Low down. La. Sincere staring. Straight. Dog named circles in the delayed square a master in fine art of persuasion. horse-trade. Is that time of the week when we do some really bad ads and have a little fun before we head out into the weekend. And of course, this is sponsored by Horse Lovers Dot Com and lovers provides the prizes. Tell us about our first prize. We're going to give away this month and to win the prize, you just submit ads and your name gets put hat the end of the month we put a name out of the hat and those are the winners so and you get two points if you actually record your own ad recorded. Your phone just email it to Jennifer Horse Radio Network Dot Com the first up prizes. The Rambo Protector specifically designed to offer superior protection from flies and sunlight made from a unique patented durable self repairing fabric. That sounds like Tony Stark built it. This rug you protection and is designed to last many seasons with sixty five percent UV protection. 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Using top-quality premium, leather, stainless steel hardware, each cut stitch, and finishing touches completed by the hands of a small number of local amish leather workers to make this plush halter even better. They incorporated a double buckled down Crown and snap at the throat. It's a two hundred dollar value just send in really bad you guys in. This can be yours for real. Those of you listening like I've never done that before it's super easy to send it in Tennessee Jennifer. Network Duck eggs list, and just send in the most ridiculous receive because you could fill up the entire really bad ads with Oklahoma only. So you guys can find one in your town and unfortunately are, oh no, not unfortunately fortunately, you get a bonus for this month in the month of September I am going to give away one of our masks every week so We'll have a weekly winner in addition to the monthly winner. So today's entries we're going to pick a number and we're going to give away a mask and you get to pick between horses in the morning or surrounding course radio network or retired racehorse radio. You can pick any one of those masks and I'll ship it out to you so you get a bonus. All, right. Let's do some ads now Jamie for your knowledge. I did not get the sound ones did not come through. So the ones who recorded their own will have to hold next week. Fine Ari well. Bruin. They didn't. Well, we didn't get his Monica Marielle or seen an errand y'all are in the running so you don't have Lorraine's either. I don't know what's going on with dropbox but. It's Kinda weak. I have so much drama going on I, can't even start telling about it so I'm just going to. Get her started. We'll be here for two hours. My God Glen had heard a lot of. She I don't want to hear it again, which is. A little bit short complaint Jamie today. Yeah I have to go because I'm waiting on the shipper who's going to be here in a minute but that's supposed to be here yesterday whatever. Let's start with Rebecca. The very short one rebecca sent this went in its title is Donald's I don't know what that's name the title, it's a dollar and it's five white. Duck emojis you get five white duck emojis. But the duck emojis are Mallard. So it's weird weird. They WanNa win quack need gone Sika comment. Meant. that. That's I think that it's just A. Spelling. Quack. Yes. WHAT DUCTS DO? Yes but you can have five white ones for a dollar. Yeah sounds good. Shan tells them this one end, Cecile County Horse Life facebook physics says, the page was on ISO. In Search of eleven age age to thirteen H H up down pony dead dead dead broke three feet in the grave. Fine. If it looks like it's on its way to the glue factory, I can put a fine Polish on. Pu Low low low fours. Did I mention dead broke? I think that horses and my barn right now the. Shipper last night so The whole adas disturbing. Katie sent the following win. It's got a picture to it's stuff chicken for one hundred and sixty dollars cornish. This is a stuffed white wine dot chicken in a basket. And that's what it is. It's a stuffed chicken in a basket, but I'm going to point out that it's not first of all the tape of chicken they're trying to describe it's called a Wyan dot and that is a barred rock. Why did they stuff? Their chicken is my question. It looks very alive in the basket. Why is it one hundred and sixty dollars? Second phone number to call these. Do I really want a stuffed chicken in my kitchen in a basket? Jensen in the horse trailer of the Lord and the description is at only one hundred, fifty dollars. So it is well within purchasing. However, it's his horse trailer floor is nonexistent and that's true when you look there's no floor. Ten shot waiting to happen like Oh my God axles are good. No, they're not frame solid. Oh, it's not. It's completely rusted out. Another, not tires are bad. Yes. Basically scrap metal come pick up my scrap metal and take it away from my farm I wanted out of here it is complete rust bucket of scrap metal. That's all it is the floors completely rusted out of out the bottom. Hope. It wasn't a hauling Oh my God this next one. This falls under the category of TMI. And Kuranda on he's ended in bless her in your little friend. Oh. Robbins daughter Yeah she's my fellow cruiser. Free Horses on Riverside Drive in Texas now this is Texas so. Of course, it starts out. Hey, y'all. Hey y'all sadly, I got to go to Rehab and I won't be able to watch over my horses anymore and I'm giving them away for free but like only do ago, we hold on I got it this southern teenager. Daddy is kicking me. Hey y'all sadly like. To, Rehab soon won't be able to watch over my horses anymore select I'm giving them away for free but like only to good home hold on God drink. Okay if you're interested text show contact information and send a description about like yourself and like why are you on my horses I'm off tomorrow. Off Tomorrow morning but my granny will be in charge of who gets them. So texting call a lot she's got here in providence like your. First of all, we're not making fun of her for going Rehab I'm glad they're going to rehab at I'm glad they're finding people. Of Making Fun of her. But he's going to be in charge. She might not here's foreign because she can't hear nothing she deaf door I'll tell you what but I'm not be there anywhere because I'm going to rehab but I'm on bend right now because I gotta get it in my sister before ahead, get dry so you know. Email Jamie radio network dot. com for that one. I'll take it Debbie said this one in ten year old congrats Mayor Horse Five, hundred dollars. What Ten year old congrats Mayor Horse Five, hundred dollars. I did not read that wrong I. Have a ex racing her she is ten years old congrats mayor horse she is a wonderful horse. She will make a good pet for someone and she has also had one baby that was amazing looking. Glad, it wasn't ugly She just recently sold for forty thousand dollars well, at one auction. She also loads great into a trailer caller text. I'm confused everybody's baby the mom. What she had a baby till the baby so I don't either I don't know Chelsea. The next one in this is from facebook she says. For consideration. Mia Aka Maze Keane she she's a six year old fifty two Palomino Tennessee walking horse media had not been touched for several years before she came to us she was to be a project horse for the husband since we're retiring my old gelding that he usually road and by project for the husband I, mean he wanted her and I was gonNA. Put in all the works, get her suitable for him to ride. Well, this hateful cow has had her clothes trim teeth floated trip to the Vet Collins dewormed and fanned up treated for ear might since she's been here, she's learned load on both stock and ramp trailers have feed handles Stanford grooming. She has been written in the round pen by myself and my. y'All I had to rehome the husband. Turns out she and I get along almost as well as the ex husband. She is pretty and that's about all the nice things I have to say about her I have no desire to feed this ungrateful tanker as Moose through the winter. She is an excellent prospect for anyone who enjoys spending their time uttering profanities, losing their patient patients and feeding intending to an ill-tempered Monster. She is healthy other than being obviously mentally disturbed if you have lots of time or maybe just WANNA torture yourself. She is the bony for you not beginner friendly. In fact, not friendly at all. She is not spook ish except for fly spray breakout, spray cannon script bottle, and she loses all the minimal sense she has rattling around in this hateful heifers giant head I don't even care anymore I'm pricing you're at five hundred dollars to rehome transport delivery negotiable. Heck. I'll even throw some ammo and wood chips for your smoker it. Opened to trade on just about anything please someone take does evil. Beast. Oh my God. Again you have to have no soul when you're reading this, just say you know because I kind of want. You know what I saw all this as the guy. In that whole ad is the husband didn't stay with her, and then a horse hates her to maybe it's her. Yeah. Good point just saying firing. Yes, San Angie sent this one in getting. That was really well read by the way. Andy sent this one and here's a really bad I founding gum tree, which is like the Australian equivalent of craigslist. I didn't know that like that it's called country. Also. Aga's mint. is when you rent someone's paddock to keep your horse, it's like boarding they call it. Thank you. Thank you for for interpreting Australian. This ad is for thirteen acres with a full running water creek all year long great grass no need to feed additional private arena for riding and training and feeding with no extra charge available now at Deception Bay, let me stop you because you gave way much Eddie. Author. First of all this person is touted as a gummy since two thousand, fourteen game and it's search. Stroke Gum tree thing the their member of guess they're called dummies and it's thirteen acres the full running water creek all year long period comma no space great grass no space common. No need to feed comma no space. Aid it TI knoll. All caps private arena for ridding and training should read it wrong. With. No extra years. So accustomed to reading misspellings. Over on because then it says at no extra charge no space period. LIE OF LIBEL I've lie able now. In Bay. And tastic. All right. Then Betty someone in apparently you can't get the sound. I don't know what's going to happen without betty and Laureen in one day turning started. Next week for you. All right. Now, I need. We need to pick a winner for a mask. So it we have fifteen and trees including the ones that stint. Alters we didn't read. So I'm not. I'm going to pick a Basque every week. Okay. So this is going to be the mask winner for the week. So between one and fifteen. o just these people. L. Guy. I'M GONNA, go at number. Nine. Number nine will be Oh, Karen. Robbins. Daughter. Of Nasca job girl. Good job. All right. The KARENIN see achieve wants. That's cool. Well. Very good. Thank you. Everybody we're we are a little short today. We're not going to have a post show because Jamie has some things she has to deal with it. and. About No, no no Nella, we're not hearing about him because that'll get US started veered other twenty minutes gotta go right now and try to make sure nobody's abandoning Gilpin. Last night, we may be a little short today, but guess what we have a bonus for you. We're going to show and Labor Day. We will be here on Monday. So we're going to do a show for you here on Monday. We'll do a full show. We'll do a full after show all be good on Monday we promise. So join us on the holiday law review be off. You can listen live. We'd appreciate that. All right everybody have a great weekend. Have you mean at Spaniard? Thanks plan for me selector standing up I mean. If you all heard her before the show you'd be wanting to get rid of there too. Dissuade her not to turn on me today. That's. By.

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Out of the Gate - Episode 122 - Stephen Foster Stakes Edition

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Out of the Gate - Episode 122 - Stephen Foster Stakes Edition

"Yeah. Welcome to add to the gate daily racing forms weekend handicapping preview program. I'm your host stand Allman. Let's take a look at what's on tap for this week's edition of out of the gate daily racing form handicapper might beer, and I'll take a look at three major stakes races. Graded ones at that from Churchill Downs on Saturday. The Stephen foster the floor Lee, and the wise. Dan, David our gone of time, formula's looks at the main event, Churchill Downs on Saturday. The Stephen foster plus sources to watch best bet selects break out of the gate. We begin out of the gate with our horse watch segment. I like this. When Mike beer with the short poor. Yeah. You don't wanna short for when you're out at the bar, but short pour might have been a horse who was getting a prep in. This is her first start off to layoff. I three year old and back on turf in this race. And it just felt to me, like maybe they were giving her a raise because Jose Ortiz did not get aggressive from the gate took her back to let's pick up the replay. He just let her sit inside the entire way, you can see as they turn into the stretch your she's still at the back, but Jose starting to ask her to run now and she's got a real chance to get involved here. You're gonna see things just don't work out. She got over behind theory could not get her clear, and she lost her best chance, right there. But she'll continue on after this continue to make ground to the end. I feel like this was a perfect race off to lay off the set her up for her next starred as affiliated factor showed some potential as a turf. Sprinter last year is a two year old my horse to watch this week is up that would bind his name is dixies gamble, and pink, Lloyd can't dominate the sprint division forever. Win at Woodbine up in Ontario. Maybe dixies gamble is the heir-apparent. Let's take a look at his most recent race. His second start as a four year old he broke inwardly from the inside post got into the race early in the area's just putting the boots to the field. I mean Louis control was looking behind him on the turn and he settles, this very quickly here to ninety seven Beyer speed figure, it was the first fast Raissi's run in only his second start as a two year old his lifetime five or six sprinting. He has a very sharp trainer and Josie Carroll. I like the sources tactical speed, and it doesn't seem to matter whether it's six or seven furlongs, I think, dixies gamble is stakes bound up at Woodbine. Let's get to some handicapping the feature race to Churchill Downs on Saturday is the Stephen foster. Let's throw up the field for Saturday's DR F race of the day. It's the great to six hundred thousand dollar. Stephen foster going mile in a dirt card it as Reese. Number eighty Churchill Downs, you can access free formulator past performances for this race on the race of the day event page at DRI dot com for expanded stakes previews of all the major races this weekend. Visit video dot dot com or the daily racing form YouTube channel, our colleague, Matt Bernier is down at Churchill Downs covering this race for NBC. You can also catch the Matt Bernier show, a special edition on Friday at video dot D, R, F dot com, or the daily racing form YouTube channel, like one of the big names in this race is Yoshida grade one winner on turf grade one winner on dirt last year thirty ran an underrated race in the Breeders Cup Classic. But let's go back to his big win on dirt. Was at Saratoga. He had a lot of pace to run the race set up really well for his closing. You're gonna see a meeting fan very wide here at the top of the stretch. There was plenty of pace for him to run. But this is main track debut and he runs really well in here now this was a closers raise you're going to see him start to pick up the leaders right now. We'll get by the lead inside the final sixteenth horse. That runs second to them is gonna Veira another deep closer, this really set up well for these two horses. But, you know, it was nice to see Yoshida show, this versatility show that you could handle the main, I'm with you. I thought his his raised after this Breeders Cup. Plastic was just fine. He ran well in there, too. He seems to be equally proficient on either surface. It'll be interesting to see what we get in his first start coming back from Dubai. And he's likely to take a good share of money. They're looking for a better priced alternative a horse that was so lightly race last year and gave justify pretty much all that horse could handle in the Preakness. It looks like he's coming to form now is a four year old. Yeah. That's number seven tenfold in this race. And he has a horse. I'm very interested in the Stephen foster because you're right as a three year old they threw a lot at this very short amount of time after his first two starts, which we're both. Wins Arkansas derby Preakness Belmont for his next three starts, and he actually ran well in all of those races. He didn't have a great summer up there. I felt like maybe all that campaigning caught up with him. He didn't run his race in the Travers, but they stopped on them. They brought him back this year. And I think he's improved. Let's look at his most recent start. This is at Pimlico on premiss weekend. It's the Pimlico special. I thought he ran really well. And here Dan, this raised it have pays for him to close into. But he just got a very confident ride from Carlos Santana. Set them back on the rail off the pace state in and he's going to split horses here to take this thing. All right. Like the way that he finishes in here. He's going to hold off a pretty talented closer and your to blame. I liked this performance from the source Dan, I think fits really well in this field, a race that should set up pretty well for, and there's plenty of pace in here after being privately purchased by trainer. John Sadler and owner ruinous racing gift boxes really come into his own as a six year old out in southern California. Of course, winning the prestigious big cap over a good Orson McKinsey to starts back going mile and a quarter. And then getting picked last time out. And the Gold Cup at Santa Anita. Let's watch that race right now. He was close to a solid pace, as was the winner vino Rosa, who was outside of them. But I like the fight that gift box shows in the stretch, just seems like a different gift box than we. Remember back in New York for Chad Brown. Horse would nimble at the non winners of two ranks and lose raises short prices. It just seems like if boxes gotten better as he's matured. He has the tactical speed to sit in mid pack of what should be a hot pace. I think he gets the jump on the true closers, like you Ashida and ten full turning into the stretch. Three two, one is fair on gift bucks in this big, bulky and competitive field. I wouldn't wanna take much less, but I do think that office recent form gift box is the horse to beat. We're going to take a little bit of a break right now, when we come back, we'll handicapped the floor delete featuring Bill months late. Are you player looking to raise your game for over one hundred twenty years expert handicappers that relied on daily racing form, as there must have source for news and data? Featuring spruce buyer, speak figures, time form US pace figures and integrated replays, ref formulator is the most powerful handicapping tool on the market. Today us what the pros us, go to dot com slash formulator and enter code to get your first card, free DR, F dot com. Raise your game. So you say horse racing's all about fancy, hats and mint julep, but horse racing is big business in the Commonwealth from the breeding said to the racetrack. It's all part of a multibillion dollar industry. So I bet you're wondering where do I start? We all have the same answer. You about u of l the university of Louisville. We're all graduates of the equine program. So what are you waiting for? The you have a leak wine industry program has been developing leaders for over thirty two years apply today. Welcome back to the gate. Let's throw up the field for the grade two through hundred and fifty thousand dollar. Flirt, the legal in the mile and an eighth Churchill Downs. It's carded his race number seven on Saturday evening, and they're going nine furlongs a very key distance for some of the horses in this race expanded stakes previews of many of the major races all weekend long, plus the MAC Bernier show weekend warrior with Mike watchmaker. Game plan with Marcus ours. And let's lots more. Visit video dot dot com or the daily racing form you to channel Mike, I thought the breakout performance from she's Julie came last year in the Iowa oaks, preceded a really nice effort in the Alabama, but you were really taken with her race to starts back the by Coa and there's a chance. She's loose on an easy lead in this race. She certainly did get a lot better as the her three-year-old came campaign when on last year. But I really liked to return from the layoff and Oakland. We're gonna look at the replay right now of the Bioko, this is picking it already in the stretch. But she was taken on very early in this race before the half mile pole and had to raise off a couple of rivals. And she was up for that even though she was off the layoff. You're going to see your just pull clear and the stretch is a new career top ninety six buyer dance. She came right out of this race and the lottery on a grade one and paired up the ninety six with another very game performance. She's in great form right now. And as you say she could be loose on a lien. She's the horse they might all have to catch the horse throw going to have to beat is the number three late. And I know some handicappers were disappointed that a late loss to short prices in her first two starts this year. They also have to remember they've taken on a vastly improved midnight zoo and a distance that might be just a little bit short. Then her best she's getting the nine furlongs, and she's getting away from midnight be soup her first two races. As a five year old following, along off a great performance in the personal ensign last summer must be us. They haven't been her best. I didn't think she was terrible in the area off the laugh. I thought that was a good place to start. Going to look at a replay now with the apple blossom where she is third in this race to midnight be. So this isn't her best performance. I totally understand anybody who's a little skeptical of late right now, thinking that maybe she hasn't come back as good as a five year old. I'm gonna keep the faith, Dan. I think the mile eighth is a better distance for her. I think this, she has shown enough to think she can still run, and if she shows on Saturday and runs her best race this feels in big trouble. Boo prize won this race last year. And I'm hoping that she can make it to in a row for trainer. Not show Korea Haas, like a late, she's going to appreciate stretching out to a mile in eighth, and she really likes the home cooking at Churchill Downs. Let's go back to the Breeders Cup distaff. She was eight to one against modem girl, and midnight be sue, and she was in with a look at about the three sixteen spol- before she finally got a little bit tired at the end of the race, she took a longtime off after that, she returned on derby weekend in the grade one lot Troyon, who was a mile and a sixteen threes. Race was a little short for her. And she gave up a lot of recency to she's Julie. I thought it was a promising enough performance to build on this will be her second star of the layoff, I think she'll be ready to go at a mile and an eighth and maybe her familiarity with Churchill Downs can get over the top against the late. She's Juliet, the one, they're all going to have to catch. Let's move from dirt to turf. The wise. Dan, stakes is just a wide open more. Let's throw up the field for the wise. Dan, steak Sicher chill downs on Saturday evening this race card. It as race. Number six two hundred and fifty thousand dollars is the purse we're going mile and a sixteen phone. The turf. It is a big competitive field with co five to one morning line choices for expanded stakes previews of all the major races all weekend long, including the wise, Dan. Visit video dot DR dot com or the daily racing form YouTube channel, Mike. It's in the post certainly has credentials. He became a wind machine for Jeff Mullins in southern California, but he is getting older. And he is returning off a long layoff. And sometimes when these west coast is crossed the Rockies the waters get deep. We'll see what happens with the post. He is clearly good enough to beat this field, but there are concerns with this horse who knows last two races of times. We saw him last summer. They were not his best races. And they stopped on this horse after that. So. It's a real question of how he's gonna come back now as a seven-year-old, we're gonna look at a replay of his Charles Wittingham last may. This is his fourth grade to win of the year before things went wrong for him. He's just a really really nice horse when he is right? But you had that long layoff to deal with, and you also have to deal with the very short distance as far as he's concerned because he's been at his best going, a lot longer than us. We have to wonder if maybe this is just a prep or something long or down the road. But he is a hard hitting consistent sort is probably going to give a very good effort as usual, you pick tenfold in the Stephen foster and March to the arch to me is kind of a similar profile you showed a lot of potential as three zero. But it just looks like he's coming to hand. Now with Ed maturity. Yeah, that's how I feel about him too. He ran some nice races as three year old. I think he found, you know, the better three year old forces and those graded stakes races. A little bit tougher him but he ran pretty well in some of those races. He came back off the layoff this year as a four year. We're going to look at his first are back at Tampa. Now, this is a restored. Race the turf classic. He got a perfect trip in this race. And he will win it for fun. This is a very easy win out of this Marquez e put them right in the turf classic on derby day. I thought he ran well, and there was no match for bricks and mortar so far. Nobody in this divisions bene- match for bricks and mortar, but I thought March the arch ran really well and that race and I think this is a better spot. From got an outside post the distance could be a little short. I think he might be a little better at nine for a long, but I liked the direction this horse has had an in each potential along. I'm hoping for sue improvement for the lightly race. Number twelve admission office, who may disperse start for Brian Lynch, and his first start of the year, a successful victory Keeneland against a pretty good group of non winners of two other than based off that race he ran in the Dixie last time out, and we're going to turn into the stretch injures going to see he is last on the rail, and he's going to need a lot of things to go his way because that's a pretty good horse, making seasonal debut Catholic. Boy, that's going to win. Joel is going to pick his way in between horses and. Mission office is starting to kick right now and you'll notice late in the game when he dives down towards the inside admission offices, finding his best stride. He really finished nicely. Galloped out. Well earned a competitive ninety five Beyer speed figure. This is third start back. I like him at a mile and a sixteenth, I think you'll get some pace think odds of about six to one seem fair for admission office and trainer. Brian Lynch, David Aragon of time for US spotlights the Stephen foster and then stay with us. We still have best bets for Saturday on out of the gate. Everyone. I'm David going with this week's time formula spotlight. I'm going to be taking a look at the feature race of Churchill Downs on Saturday to grade to Stephen foster Sikhs, which goes race. Eight on their evening program there, I'll start taking a look at the time for pays projector before we get into the main contenders. Ed this race is predicted to feature fast pace. You see the number three runaway ghost out towards the front end along with the number nine Tom's tall. And the number ten quip. Now, one thing to note about this pace projector is that when you scroll through all of these horses time for us past performances, and look at time formula preview, screen, none of them have speed or leader running styles other more tracker types, but all of them, do want to be placed out towards the front racing close to the pace even horses. Like alka Tam and gift box they wanna be up-close contesting the pace. So while there's no clear front runner in this field. There are a member, of course should be jockeying for position towards the front end. And I think that does make that fast paced character. Station. Valid one will begin by talking about that favorites. I just mentioned briefly the number six gift box now, he's arguably one of the top older horses of the country right now, by virtue of his way Dems of grade, one cents to handicapped to back where he defeated Kinsey. Last time out, he lost Grosso shift from the east coast to the west coast to take the goals Cup Santa Anita now gift box. I'm not sure he's of course that really is at his best, the mile and a quarter. I know we got the distance to back in this Anthony to handicap, but he did silver MacKenzie who also doesn't really want to go that distance. So I think gift box is going to appreciate this cutback to a mile in eighth in this, Stephen foster, the problem that I have with dipped boxes, he's a horse that seems to really well with time between races, and I'm just finding a little odd. The John Sadler is getting so aggressive as to running back just three weeks up following that really tough effort in the Gold Cup at the end of may. So I think he's the horse to beat if you look at time formula speed figure. He's routinely running in the mid to high one twenties net, just makes them faster than all of his competitors. But he's the kind of force that I think is going to get down quite a bit off that three to one morning line. And at a short price to two one nine to five. He's just not the kind of force that I wanna take as a favourite given the questions doubted coming back on that quick turnaround. His main rival is likely to be perceived as the number twelve your Shita, I really have no problem with your Shida. He's turned out to be a better dirt horse than I thought he would be surprised by that. What in the Woodward, but he read a fine race that day wasn't the toughest grade one field that we've ever seen, but he got the job done? And frankly here even better in the Breeders Cup. Classic last fall. I know we got plenty of pace to close in. Do you see those red color coded time for must be figures that was race? They did set up for closer. But MS finishing on well the end of that race closing to be a close fourth. They drive turf after that. He didn't run the Dubai World Cup not going hold those efforts against him. Now he's coming back to the US. Sometimes he's coming back to the state. Do need a race after two by he's drawing the outside postition here. He's probably going to get the right pace setup once again, but he's a horse a little bit of name cachet. He's got a bit of a following, and I think he's going to be a pretty decisive second choice in this race. And I think there's better value to be had elsewhere particularly with the number four seeking the soul. Who's my topic in this race? I've always been a little bit of a fan of seeking the soul. And I think he's finally putting it all together it he's really deceptively being the best form of his career as a six year old he ran really well that Pegasus World Cup at the beginning of the year. Back in January. I know finished second in that race. And got ahead of the exceleron at the end, but he was far behind city of light the winter. But if you watch that or he's coming around the far heard he was having to weave through traffic John Velasco had to stop it writing at one point steady as retiring in front of him. He actually ran really well to be second that day with a clean trip. Hugh, arguably could have been closer to city of light at the finish was ever winning that race. But he could have made it closer at the end of it gotten to clean trip from off the pace. I don't really care about the two by World Cup. He's another horse that violent of quarter is kind of pushing it for him. And some of these today just don't handle the dental surface. He came back, just five weeks. Later in the alley Sheba going a mile us extend to me that just feels like purely at prep race to run them back debt quickly with no laugh after do by not sure they were really looking to win that race. It was just a stepping stone to this ultimate goal. The Stephen foster he's really picked it up in his workout since that race he's likely to get a favorable pay set up with all of those horses that Wallaby forwardly placed head of him. And he just always seems to run well at Churchill Downs. So I just think saving the soul makes plenty of sense in this race. And if gift box and Yoshida, get down off the morning lines. I could see him drifting up a little bit off at four to one and being a playable price in this race. So the number four seeking the soul is might pick in the Stephen foster on Saturday, Churchill Downs. Now it's back to the studio. Time for our best bet segment here on out of the gate, Mike. Give me something on the church downs undercard, keep it at Churchill race fives degrade three Matt win for three year olds to turn mile and a sixteenth. I liked the three no low contest. Oh, especially if he's only going to be second choice in this race. We'll see how the wagering all plays out, but I like this horse. We're gonna throw up a replay now of his maiden win. This is back in January where he got hung wide around the first turn he took the race to the horse on the lead right now, Omaha beach around the second turn and he's going to do all this horse down to stretch. I really like this performance. I thought he came out of it, and ran really well. Again, is next start where he didn't get a great trip in an allowance race. I think he fits really well in this race as he comes off a little bit of a layoff here. And if he's the second choice, I'm betting sprinting. I think is going to be the key return to a sprint for my best bet. That's aura, more number nine in recent over ten at Monmouth on Saturday or a more won her first two starts sprinting on dirt at Gulfstream. Todd Pletcher by a combined eleven lengths and then they stretch to route to a one turn mile where she was the beaten favourite in the butcher. We're gonna look at that race right now for macro she's gonna big look at this turning into the stretch. I just think this distance was a little bit too far. She fawn all the way down to the wire. But she finished third, you can argue sports best Oxy lady at all sorts of trouble in behind after this race. They tried to turns in the fantasy where she chased a fast pace and tired. And then they tried to turns on turf in the hilltop, where I think she actually ran pretty well over a wet turf. Course she is getting the cutback to a sprint that. I believe she needs. She adds blinkers for Pletcher. And I think she can sit just off the pace on Saturday. That's number nine aura more in recent over ten at Monmouth on Saturday, we thank you for watching out of the gate and we're gonna follow all of Diarra, TV's, latest offerings, please follow on Twitter at D, R video at least follow on Twitter at DRI, f- inside posts. That's it for this week best horses.

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Equine Forum - October 24th 2020

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Equine Forum - October 24th 2020

"From the rail to your radio, this is the horse racing radio network. Have thanked. sexting. Jazz. Years. That's. Out there possibly. Birthday fire with the lead. Guy Giving, chase with share the ride, but it's going to be for resins eight fire. In the. One by three. Welcome to the equine for of. Dixon. These do bullets. During. Off the. Feet there's the devil strikes the. Paul. Swiss. Trying hard but she's still second dot today four convene. There's a double turning back, swith skydiver coming and all the rest. There's the devil scores in the oaks. Now. Here's Mike. Hello again everyone good morning on this twenty four th day of October. Welcome to the forum show that launched to network here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Mike pennant baron, and the back stretch with you just thirteen days four hours twenty eight minutes away from the Breeders Cup world. Championships. Of course, you're listening to this show throughout north. America on Sirius to Nineteen Xm to Oh, one on our affiliates in Lexington Louisville, and across the country or you're tuned in digitally with our live streaming or the podcast of the show on our H. R. N. website at Horse Racing Radio Dot net. Well as the attention. Of the racing world continues to shift toward the Breeders Cup and rightfully so. There's still plenty of other racing news to talk about on Saturday morning the thirty fifth Maryland million. Program takes place this afternoon at Laurel going to be joined in just a few minutes by owner Dan Mason who is also a colleague of ours here on the horse racing. Radio. Network, you'll be with me at eight fifteen eastern time as he prepares to watch two of his horses compete on this Maryland Million Day. It's a big deal. Can't wait to visit with Dan and talk to him about those horses and about. His lifetime in this sport as an owner, he has been involved for a very, very long time and should be a fun visit keeneland. Keeneland brings down the curtain on what has been a very unique fall. Meet to say the least that fall meet wraps up today of course, racing will return here for the Breeders Cup as I mentioned in just about thirteen days. And that means that racing here in the Commonwealth of Kentucky is GonNa Shift seventy two miles west to churchill downs, which will kick off their one hundred thirty I fall meet with the first of two. Stars of Tomorrow Cards that Begins Tomorrow Eleven races all for two year olds. That is an awesome concept they've been doing that for a very long time and it is fun fun thing to watch and the first time this year by the way that spectators will be allowed to attend the races at Churchill downs albeit in a limited capacity of about forty percent which you think of the size of Churchill downs. That's a decent number. That's a pretty decent number considering we couldn't have any fans. In attendance at the Kentucky Derby back in early September. That's a step in the right direction. And only certain areas are going to be open. But we'll have about forty percent capacity at Churchill beginning tomorrow with their fall meet Darren Rogers, the director of communications at Churchill GonNa wrap up the show with me at nine forty eastern time to look ahead to that meet and and give you more insight is to what you can expect. If you are thinking about trying to get out to the races at Churchill High, you can go about doing it The areas that will be open for spectators. He'll fill you in on all of that at nine forty eastern time. So. I'm going to begin the show talking about Maryland million with Dan Mason and wrap it up looking ahead to the churchill fall meet with Darren Rogers. Inbetween. Inbetween welcome in hall of Fame Jockey Chris. McCarron to look back on Tis. Now's brilliant victories and not one but two Breeders Cup classics. I thought that was appropriate on the Saturday morning as it was announced this past week that the only horse to win the classic twice. Tis now has officially been retired. From Stud duty and IINO IT happens. On the twenty year anniversary of his first classic victory in two thousand. That came at Churchill downs, of course. The following year at acqueduct just six weeks after the September eleventh attacks on our country. Tom Durkin provided one of the most memorable calls in the history of our sport Tis now wins it for America. And Crystal looked back on those two wins and he'll talk about. What that was like coming into the two thousand one breeders. Cup. After everything that had happened. There was talk that the Breeders Cup to be cancelled that year I can remember that. but. The sport in in sports in general. Persevered and the Breeders Cup was indeed held against six weeks after the September eleventh attacks it was held in new. York. And Chris, was the man who was In the spotlight at the end after guiding Tis. Now to that huge win, he'll be me at eight thirty five eastern looking forward to catching up Chris Dr Jim Chipita from flair equine nasal strips going to be with me at nine o'clock eastern time. He always has a lot of great things to tell you about their products and Canadian Hall of Famer Josie Carroll. With me at nine twenty. This is cool. I don't know. To be honest with you, I don't know if this has gotten the attention it deserves. If we had a horse. If let's say Tis the law, for example, this year would have won. The. Kentucky Derby and going triple crown in the preakness albeit with everything being shuffled around there would be a lot of HOOPLA. There would be a lot of attention. I don't know if this is getting the attention. It deserves I'm GonNa make sure it does this morning. Josie Carroll who has if she's a Canadian Hall of Famer she has done so much. So many good things in her career. Today she stands on the doorstep of history with Mighty Heart Mighty. Heart. Looks to become just the eighth horse to sweep the Canadian triple crown think about that. We have had thirteen triple crown winner in the US and we talked about how difficult? The triple crown is to accomplish. Although. American Pharaoh, justify come along they went not consecutive years, but they win it in a very short timeframe from each other and you start thinking. Okay. Now you start to hear the talk as the triple crown too easy. We need to make some changes. Yeah now leave it alone thirteen triple crown winners in the US, third volume seven in. Canada. The last to do it was Wando back in two, thousand and three. And today, it would bind the final leg that triple crown, the breeder stakes mile, and a half on the turf. And mighty heart as the. Morning Line favorite. But they're gonNA take their shots at mighty heart a field of twelve lined up for that breeder stakes later today. Here's the deal. Take a look at. The two triple crowns. Let's put them side by side for a minute and. The past several years we've had the privilege to go to Woodbine. And broadcast the first leg of their triple crown the Queen's plate it is one of the. One of the great trips that we make all year long and hopefully things get back to normal. We can get back there again next year but. The distances as. A bolt triple crown, the American triple crown, the US, triple crown, and the Canadian triple crown. Are the same. All three races are the same distances but the the major difference is that in the US yeah, you go to three different race tracks just like doing Canada. But all three legs of the triple crown here or on dirt on the main track. In, Canada that's not the case. You have to in three races. You have to do them at three different tracks. And you have to do it on three different surfaces. The Queen's plate. Is Run onto, pita. The. Prince. Of Wales stakes at four eerie is on the main track on dirt, and then come back to the mile and a half breeder stakes on the turf at Woodbine to wrap it up. So that leads me to my poll question for today. With. The three. Well, let's put it this way the. Three Races in the triple crown series in the US and Canada. Are? All. Contested at the same distances? However, the US triple crown. Is All on dirt whereas the Canadian triple crown. Requires A horse to win on three different surfaces. So which Is more difficult to accomplish. The. US triple crown. Or the Canadian triple crown. Give you two choices there I wanNA know your thoughts. and. Port chauncey having to formulate that poll question on twitter I? Don't know how he's going to do it but he's pretty good with that stuff. So One more time. The three triple crown races in the US and Canada are both contested in both countries are contested. However in the US off. A dirt in Canada. You have to win on three different surfaces, which is more difficult to accomplish the US triple crown or the Canadian triple crown, and I'll tell you. I think it has to be the Canadian triple crown forget about the fact. that. Yeah. We've had thirteen winter's here in the US and only seven in Canada. But. Asking A HORSE To win at those distances at three tracks at three different different surfaces it has to be. The. Canadian. Triple crown. Be Curious to see what you think. Let me know at HR and on twitter horse racing radio network on facebook and other way to cast your vote you wanna email the show. You can always email me your opinion on that Mike Horse, racing radio DOT net. But I thought on this day when mighty heart goes for the triple crown in Canada. I. Thought that was appropriate and you know. Josie Carroll her lone win and the breeders stakes came in two thousand, Fourteen with AMIS holiday. So it's not like. She has had a ton of success in that race. She has in other races, the other triple crown races but. Mighty heart dominated the Queen's plate. Came back, enroll through the Prince of Wales and looks to be the real deal and she has said over the course of the past several days that this is a very talented horse and I look forward to catching up with her to talk about mighty heart and that triple crown bid later in the program. So here you got, let's reset it for you Dan Mason coming up in. Just, a few minutes after my first commercial break, he'll talk about today's Maryland Million Hall of Fame Jackie Chris. McCarron right around eight thirty, five eastern time Dr Jim chip header from flair strips will be with the at nine o'clock Josie Carroll, nine twenty and darren rogers from Churchill downs nine forty, it is a full show. It kicks off next on the Forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network. The breeders. Cup runs here. Thank. Only. On HRIS. 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Fifth into the stretch. Now, about a quarter of a mile left to go jarvis steel turning back factor in intent me twice on the inside keep tries harder. Love you too far outside here comes tries between. ME twice they're coming fast now Jarvis Steel love you. To love you much love you much try harder me twice three way go it's going to be a three way finish. Much harder. Intent me twice. Welcome back to the Boerum here on the horse racing radio network, Mike pent-up Barron of the backstretch with you on this Saturday morning that was day Rodman of the call. Of Love, you much winning an allowance race. That was back in two, thousand nineteen August winless sense but looking to break that streak later today six-year-old gelded. Son Of for love hoping to breakthrough for our good friend Dan Mason as he joins me now here on H. R. and Dan Good Morning my friend Good Morning Mike. God Do I. Miss You guys. I mean we ever going to be back to normal. We get our whole team back on the field. Boy wouldn't that be nice. You know I mentioned at the top of the show not only are you a longtime racehorse owner but you and I have been friends for many years and you are now part of our horse racing radio network crew boy it would be nice to get the band back together again I can tell you that. Well. Maybe someday that'll happen but you know it just it adds so much to the product when we have everybody contributing and I, look forward to it and got up with you and Kirk and the rest of the team I mean we've had bobby I mean we pedal we've had a lot of flaps and a lot of fun and Gosh. You don't know how much you miss it till. You don't do it anymore you know. Hey you're not getting you you have the. Distinct pleasure of watching a couple of your horses run on the Maryland Million Program today at Laurel and we just heard the call of love much winning that allowance race that again was in August of last year got up to win by a neck and since that time Dan has been knocking on the door right there and just unable to crack through what's the key to victory for love you much today. Stay out of trouble you know if he got them traffic a couple of times but the thing about love much is this horse. You know we always kinda get a kick out of the horse. We talk about a lot count on loof. You remember him back way back when but. Tries all the time. He's always there and some of the handicappers picking second or third and. There's a horse from New York coming in here called named fire. That is going to be the favourite today in that particular race, but you can count on love you much. He's just honest. Honest horse. He's never gonNA cheat and he's the same Morrissey is in the morning is the same Morsi as in the afternoon and I look forward to it. I I really think he's got a great shot to win but you know horse racing Mike I I'll tell you a funny story and I know you're going to recall this. Remember we had in. One of the Maryland million races last year no knock grade and he's back in the day. But last year he was coming down the stretch to was a soft turf and he was about three and he hit a like muddy soggy patches on the turf on the rail and practically stopped and ended up finishing fifth I think. But Mike, I had one foot in the winner's circle. We already we're going to get off the air so we could go get the trophy mean we. planned. Out In my mind but. That that's worth seeing my friend. far more ways to lose a horse race than there are to win one there's only one way to win. You have to get your nose in front at the wire, and that's of course what you're hoping for would love you much in grade later today love you much by the way is in the sixth race of the day at Laurel, that is a the Maryland million turf sprint five and a half furlongs on the turf course and then We'll see no not grade in the final race of the day, which I believe is a starter handicaps. So you Kinda. Almost. Got Him surrounded Dan later today. Far Cry from that Mike, but it's going to be a good day. This brothers beautiful here today and turf will be firm. No doubt and. Both horses like that although love much doesn't mind yielding course either but no knock grade from previous races just hates a yielding course or softer. Of course but I it's going to be a good day I mean it's unfortunate that I believe the only limited to two hundred and fifty spectators, which is crazy when you got thousands of people that the silliest built for and they let the owners come in with like a party of four and do that but it's just you know maybe two, thousand, twenty one, we'll be back where. People can come to the race track and enjoy it but It's a beautiful. That's for sure. Going out to the races today Dan. I will and I will be going and taking a couple of my friends and. Hopefully will. Be The love you much no. Not Great contingent would be heard because there will be a lot of people at this. That's for sure. Talking with Dan, Mason our colleague here on the horse racing radio. Network, and of course, owner of his own resources for many many years Dan take me back to almost the beginning I. Guess if you will and and talk to me about how you first got involved with with racing and then owning racehorses, where did that interest come from? Well, I have been going to raise trucks and four years old I'm from Louisville and that took me. So, I would just run around the race track at Churchill downs and pick up tickets off the ground. You know the people would discard head to the top of the grandstand and start looking for winners which I would always fine every time. I'd go I'd get a winner wouldn't be a lot but I'd had enough keep me an ice cream for a week. But I would go and as I grew older. You know you recall up in a family that loves races in racetracks that. Could Afford Horse I did and I source I ever owned rented LS Park and then you know you and then you get you get burnt out sometimes on it over many many years and you take a break and then it's like you always come back. But I think as a racehorse owner, what you have to do, there's two rules you never spend more on a horse than you could afford to lose, and then the other rule is you have to be willing to accept the peaks and valleys of the sport. And boy those peaks. Let me tell you what I meant horses around today. I'm going to enjoy that peak because you know I have to. Keep. An even Keel when we get to the bally's. And the happens. A lot in this business? A Horse owners? No but you know it's all about sportsmanship and it's fun. It's hopefully it's about bringing people along with you enjoy the day. It's a lot more fun when you've got a group there rather than just one person. You've been able to do that several times I know that I've been there with you. When you ve had horses running, you mentioned no knock ray last year but you're big on that. You love to invite when we could invite people you love to invite as many people as you can, and even if they can't. Necessarily come to the winner's circle with you because of. Limitations on the number of people or whatever it might be at least they get to experience what the sports all about, and you've always been a a great ambassador in that respect. I do I enjoy people smiling having fun and guys the sensitive winning I remember Mike I'll tell you real quick. Story that the first date I ever took my wife at Was it park and my trainer had horse in that day course was about fifteen to one I didn't think it had a shot but the trainer said, you know what you guys if this horse wins I, want you to go to the winter circle. I said great and the wife now girlfriend said Oh that would be fun the Horse Wins and I'm trying her to the winter circle she goes oh The horse I can't go in there. Sure. You can't. It's all. It's all about people I haven't find. So you know it's not bad for a first date ended up in the winner's circle at. Laurel how Yeah, it was meant to be after that, right? Yeah. Yeah. We've been married close to fifteen years now. Yeah spectacular Great stuff. Dan Mason. I'M GONNA. Brag on you for a minute Dan former president of CBS radio and member of the Radio Hall of fame. He has had a lot of success on the business side of this game and and now of course, involve a thoroughbred racehorses he has been. You heard him talk about his passion for it since he was very, very young at growing up. In Louisville Dan when I, first met you talked about count on Lou. He's your big horse at that point going back to about two thousand, twelve, thirteen I guess it was and you've had other ones too. You've had horses like Mindy Michelle comes to mind I think changing of the guard was another one that you own tell me about some of the other ones that that stand out to you. Oh my Gosh Mike I had I would have some that only be able to keep a couple of races and they would get claim from from me right away. You Recall Mindy Michelle. She was a nice philly ended up getting claimed of course, which is okay. Mean it's part of the game but another one that would be always consistent always trying changing of the guard you mentioned and she was a flighty Philly but She'd always have to saddle up outside the paddock, but she had a war win bunch of speed. I think she made about two hundred, fifty, thousand dollars through a owners but you know somehow you just remember all the good ones. You don't really get the ones that weren't so good. You maybe I'm blocked them out but and Mike to been at a bet over the course of. Gosh thirty years that I've owned fifty different horses and. I do remember some catchy names but the ones that stand out are the ones that you know are hard knocking trying horse. So again, you I know speaks I'm right there enjoying love and life. You've always been big on Dan throughout your time at CBS in this whole hall of Fame Radio Career is relationships and you are. Excellent at not only establishing relationships with people but keeping those relationships and you have a long standing relationship with your trainer Ferris Allen, who is the trainer of both horses running on that Maryland million program today tell me about that relationship and how that came about and why it's been so successful. I think when I first met Sarah side called the racing office. At Laurel or PIMLICO or whatever was open at the time and had asked him to recommend the trainer and they recommended Ferris and he's about my age he went to law school at the William and Mary Incredibly Bright Guy and You know we've. We understand we understand each other I mean. We kind of wind together we lose together one of those kind of deals, but you know a lot of owners will change trainers like the daily water something. But I, I've never done that I've just gotten. I, had other trainers. some I. Like that more than others but Sarah's we've been together since like the early nineties maybe. Our late eighties at you know it's you. You GotTa if you believe in a trainer and you believe in a person it no matter what business you're in you you ride that person's till the end of the beach. Let that wave come all the way up to the beach and you don't you don't switch. Horses in the middle of the wave you don't it's just not good business, and so when I find somebody or a company or somebody like to do business with I don't change, it would take a lot to make me change and I've Kinda operated with that principle whether it's people who worked for me or whether people that are companies that hire if they do a good job and they're honest hardworking I, I just don't change I'm consistent that way. In the six today no not great in the twelfth, both of those part of the Maryland Million Day program at Laurel Park and visiting with Dan Mason on H. R. N. Dan. Are you still going to want to work with us on radio after you become an Academy Award winning actor? Always. Work with you guys I. Love. That relationship and I love the people. Love the laughs. I. Love the going to the race track. Love going out to dinner the night before of going into the casino with Mike Bennett being my bad luck. So. I Will Mike. You know long as there's a place for me, I'll be there. But we stopped that train at Gulfstream that day right you're on a roll your winning every time you went to the machines and I went into watch you play and I I don't think you were ever ahead in that that half hour I watched you. Michelle was saying was cursing because I was going to buy dinner with my winning so. Many winning. So it didn't buy dinner so it was fun though. Yeah I was cheering for you win. Believe me I was definitely. What is your? What's your favorite track that have been to? What's your favorite memory of our team I'd like We won the eclipse award but there's other things I'd like to know from your standpoint what? Are some of your favorite flashbacks when we had the team together. Yeah it's a great question out. In terms of the race. Dan. I'm always partial to Saratoga because that's where I grew up in picking though I cut my teeth on racing at Saratoga I remember going there my friends and sitting at the picnic tables alongside the the top of the stretch there. So from a racetrack perspective I think you know Saratoga always does for me I think Santa, Anita is a beautiful race track sitting there looking at the San Gabriel mountains. one of the great backdrops and all racing to me Santa Anita's gorgeous Yeah and In terms of the memories I think just like you said being on the road, the Camaraderie, all of that comes along with putting the shows together you know getting to travel the different locations I'll tell you Barbados getting the opportunity to go there and broadcast the Gold Cup. A couple years was spectacular In the way we were treated when we went there was just incredible. So any of those types of things really stand out you know all of the accolades and stuff. Great but that's just a byproduct of. Of getting the the back together in in doing things the way we feel are the right way to do them so. I think my number one favorite memory was when we were at del Mar for breeders. Cup. and sharing that airbnb with and bathroom with Jude Sean and I was like. But I tried to Tom. I. Thought we had a great broadcast that day and Of course, the people have del Mar. we were Nice. We had a really nice facility there that we. From. So I think that when until that one gets top that will end out in my mind. Well listen let's make some more memories this afternoon on that Maryland Million Day card. Go get him Dan. Love you much. No not grade. Let's get to the winner's circle twice today my friend and keep your eye on me Mike. We will all right appreciate it Dan Mason here on the horse. Racing. Radio Network interview like all of our interviews brought to you by embrace the race the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle embrace your passionate. Where would you love and embrace the race Dot Com? You heard me ask him about his acting career. He has gotten into doing some acting now to in addition to being part of our team on radio. Natalie's retired from CBS's dabbling in a little bit of that and. I wanted to get into that with him a little bit more, but didn't get a chance to but hopefully he's in the winter circle day with those two horses at Laurel. Still Become Chris McCarron will be with me in the next segment. He's GonNa. Look back on the twenty year anniversary of Tis. Now's first. Breeder's Cup classic. Win At of course that second one that memorable one in two thousand, one, the only horse to win the Breeders Cup classic twice I'll talk to Chris and just a little bit. Dr Jim Chia pet from flair strips at nine o'clock Josie Carroll? Going for the triple Crown Today Woodbine Nine, twenty, eastern and Darren Rogers at nine forty. That's all ahead. Right after your legends of the TURF brought to you every Saturday morning at this time by the Lexus store of Lexington. Shortly before four PM on October eighteenth one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, two, seven thoroughbreds from around the world answered the call. The Post will the first Deborah Laurel International at Laurel Racecourse in suburban Washington DC, and there was a solid noteworthy feel on hand to contend for the top arms neither land from Germany had obese Kerouac in the irons and he came. into the race as the winner of the German Derby of nineteen fifty in the enhanced from Canada was the only three year old on the race and was therefore in the receipt of six pounds from the others while having the services of the redoubtable Johnny Longden and the irons will win an English invader by pink flower out of Sarasin, by Donna tell. The second was to be written by a manual Mercer Zucchero and other English invader piloted by Cheeky Charlie, Smith, really from America and the most highly regarded of the three American horses in the field had the services of Johnny Adams Greek ship from the roof meet stable head Hetty Eddie Arcaro up politer. The Pride of Maryland was the third American Entry John. D. Shapiro Laurel. President, who dreamed of the actuality of the race was about to see his dream unfold at the start which off went off without a hitch Zucchero went to the front a writer. Charlie Smith took them back off the pace allowing Indian, hemp the Canadian three year old to go to the front to set the practice while the first half mile. Johnny Longden born in Canada, and aboard the Canadian vader was a noted master at controlling the pace of race on the front end, and as they went past the how Greek ship moved up along defense to take the lead and the German champion. Need Lander moved with him on the outside the make it a troika upfront dueling poor control then Greek ship neater lender pulled away from Indian hemp and those to wear heads apart going to the far turn matching powerful strides Greek. Ship was the first to give way while the rest. Of the field began to close ground and bunched up as they swung around the turn and what was rapidly becoming a superb horserace Zucchero and will win were moving fast the civilization came to the top of the stretch where the Cagey. Mun Emmanuel Mercer got will win down along the inside the save grounded get to the front as they came pounding down the lane, the hasty house farm. Really one of the American entrance came flying down the middle of the racetrack with a wily veteran atoms putting all his skills to use to. Get the less possible belonged to run out of his mouth. It was too little too late will win cross the wire retooling Ruiz second? Zucchero third then came nederlander pallister Greek ship and the fully spent early pacesetter Indian hemp are carrow who wrote Greek ship said after the race quote no excuses those other horses just ran on by me too fast either given my right arm to win this race but my amount ran one of his poorest races unquote manny mercer the winning rider was beside himself when he leapt off to hug. His mouth in the winter circle he had written a perfect race keeping his mouth off the pace in sixth place in the early going allowing the early speed to kill each other off than deathly driving through a long defense turning for home during the presentation ceremony will win was accorded a huge ovation by the crowd and that cheering continued on in a great display of international sportsmanship that October Day in one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, two, Laurel in Maryland, and the running the very first international indeed a great moment in thoroughbred racing. Visionary design. 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Open further information can be found at Churchill Bounds DOT COM in total ten stakes races offering purses of nearly one point eight million dollars big money, big fields October twenty fifth to November twenty ninth at Churchill downs. This is Joe Rocco Junior I'm done with my name is victor has been assigned. This is Jockey Brian Hernandez and you're listening to H or You're listening to the Equine Forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network. saw. Jazz now is. Grant. Short. My part after known. Warm stretch drive. and. Breeders Cup. Yeah. What a day? What a performance by Tis. Now, the only two time winner of the Breeders Cup Classic and that was win number two. You heard time Durkin with the call that was at Belmont Park in two thousand one he wanted the previous year in two thousand but the one in two thousand one emotional for a lot of reasons it hit come just six weeks after the September. Eleventh attacks on our country and it happened right there in New York and there was talk that maybe the Breeders Cup wouldn't be held that year. I remember a lot of the conversation surrounding sports in general is that maybe sports should take a respite and not be held for for quite some time. But as we started to get back to some sense of normalcy sports became an integral part of our culture and that was certainly one of them and that performance by Tis now will live in our memories forever and Tis. Now ridden both times in the Breeders Cup by Hall of Fame Jockey Chris McCarron who joins me now here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Chris Good morning my friend. Hey Good morning. Mike thanks for having me on PAL. Yeah appreciate the visit. Let's. Just. Heard the call of that race in two thousand and one there was it was much more than a horse race. It put me there with you what what were the days like leading into that race and then of course, the race itself. Yeah there was a lot of tension in the air obviously And one of the most vivid. Recollection I have is before the races began, they had all the jockeys get get dressed up in their colors that they were going to be using the day the owners colors. And we paraded. From the Jockey's room down through the tunnel at dot park and across the track onto the turf course, and we were all carrying American flags, little little American flags and we all had hats on that either said F. D. N. Y. or NYPD to salute the frontline heroes of the tragedy and as we got across onto the turf course turned around, looked up at the grandstand and for the link, the whole of the Belmont grandstand, which we all know is enormous. about every fifty yards or so there was a soldier with a with a rifle snipers if you will. And that was a very alarming view and I'll never forget it. It's still vivid in my in my mind now and we all knew the gravity of the situation how serious everything was but that that vivid memory is will forever be eskimo mind and it was quite alarming It was it was weird because it was alarming and and Feeling. Better about the situation too because we know we're being protected but it was It was quite the day it that's that's how my day started off and and we. Fortunately because of the great heart that twos now has He finished the day off for it's really well. I. Think that's the right way to put it cry and by the way fantastic recollection there but you know, I think that's the right way to put it the heart in determination that Tis now showed in defeating the Great European and Sake and getting up to win by a nose that at one point in the stretch it looked as if Tis now was done but somehow he got it out and found a way to get his nose in front in in Tom Durkin summed it up perfectly winning it for America. There was so much national pride not just with horse racing, but around the country. That when he's coming down the stretch in, he's in that battle. Do you remember exactly what was going through your mind and how how intense that must have been? Yeah I remember what what was going on through my mind. I told Jay Robbins his trainer in the paddock before the race that. Him Stick I was just going to ride him and coax them along because he was training in what I refer to. As an obstreperous fashion he was leading up to the race he was. do things the way he wanted to do them and With without regard to the exercise, Boy Ruben was was trying to get them to do His now is very, very strong, willed, and strong mind and He would go out there and do whatever the whatever the heck he wanted to do. And most of the time it was to walk down to detract slow fashion take everything in get on the track look around for a while and he wouldn't go and train until he was absolutely ready for it. And when I breezed him a mile a week before the breeders. Cup. We're at Santa Anita he had not chipped back to New York yet. And I was instructed by J Robbins to breed them a mile. Well, he wouldn't go for about forty minutes. He just stood on the track didn't do anything wrong. He just wouldn't go forward and he finally had enough sightseeing while he was out there and decided to go ahead and go and when he did he went for he breathes the mile and thirty six and change going from the. half-mile pole all the way back around to the half-mile pool and horses just don't breathe that fast in that in that particular configuration when they go from wire to wire doing mile. Yeah, they finish very well. But typically when they passed the finish line and they start gearing down but now did not do that he just kept on running. And so knowing that he's got this strong willy doesn't want to be forced into doing anything I was up there as a passenger just trying to coax him along and and at the Sixteenth Pole. Sake was a good neck in front of me and I figured I've got nothing left to lose so I reached back and I tapped him once with my left hand and and he responded favorably he jumped forward and got was able to get back in front drop his head down right at the right time that was that's a that's an event I will never ever forget. I. Don't like when guests come on the show and use bigger words than me Chris obstreperous. Not Bad for jockey. Pretty good. Did you know that you had the race won at that point? Did you feel confident that your nose was in front? I could feel trying and I couldn't really tell but I did hear the call. I was able to hear Tom Durkin Tis now Windsor for America, and so I began the celebration in earnest right away just Galloping out I was given a big old pat on the neck and everything and I wasn't a hundred percent sure because I had my head buried and I was down driving. But I had a good feeling about it and then when I heard. The I had a good feeling about it because of the response I was getting some from the effort that he was putting out. And But when I heard Tom say that and he's he's about as good as they get when it comes to deciding who he could've made a very ex- very skilled placing judge in if he wanted to because he was very good at determining who the winner was. Did. You hear him say his now wins it for. America. I. Did I heard him say that? Yeah and then. Yeah. Then my my confidence with regard to the photo swelled in and so yeah, it was It was it's amazing. How you what you hear out there and what you don't hear when you when you focus and you know sometimes you're easily distracted other times you just geared on gear down on the focus for the race and and but that particular time I did hear him it was It was pretty loud and It was a great feeling. People will forget that Tis now is not the favourite in that race as the defending champion. It was actually aptitude under Jerry. Bailey who went post word is the favorite in that two thousand, one Breeders Cup the year before Tis now wins it for the first time at Churchill downs. He wasn't the favorite that year either you wrote to me was nine to one an again another gutsy effort he battled with another top European and giant's causeway, and he gets up to win by a neck I. Guess he had to be thinking at that point man this horses special. Oh Yeah. He he showed me how to special and he was when he when he won the first breeders. Cup. Classic because he didn't break his maiden until May of that year, he broke his maiden in May at Hollywood park and in a maiden special weight race. Came back next time out in ran super in the I think it was the affirmed handicap and then in the in the swaps stakes as well ran very well Victor Espinoza wrote them in those races actually Alex police broke his maiden but victor wrote him a couple of times and Victor was committed to another horse I. Forget the Horse's name at this point for the Pacific classic in Jaaz me to ride them and I had breezed him a couple times in the morning. So I was somewhat familiar with him but. He goes on after breaks maiden. He wins a stake these third mistake he's second in the Pacific Classic, and then he goes down to Louisiana and wins. The Super Derby comes back to Santa Anita, wins the Goodwood and then journeyed back to Churchill downs and what a tremendous amount of fortitude divorce show throughout the training and racing process. He was He was an iron horse and I know that's what they call it giant's causeway but if I if I ever ironhorse kids now. Yeah Chris McCarron went me here on the Horse Racing Radio Network the hall of Famer looking back on Tis, now's to victories in the Breeders Cup. Classic two thousand and two, thousand and one respectively. The only horse ever to win the Breeders Cup. Classic twice Chris. When you look up the leaders among jockeys in the Breeders Cup Classic Your Name and Jerry's Jerry Bailey name at the top of the list you each have won that race five different occasions your first in nineteen, eighty eight, and then the last one coming in two thousand, one with Tis now. But that first one with Alli, Sheba in eighty eight I know you and I have talked about it multiple times that was a special victories you've ever had. Oh. Yes. Without question. Yeah. I I'm very blessed. That's for sure to have written five. Five classic winners Ellie Chiba was very, very special horse for me and for for the racing public when he won When he won the classic. Tom Had another great call that afternoon and they was getting really dark to boy it was very, very dark at all the way around the track and But ALYSHEBA was was very special for sure and I also had if I may toot my horn a little bit. I. Also had three seconds in the races well. and. SO I. Came close to winning that thing eight times. Yeah. How'd you get the other three beat Chris come on. All and it's a good question. I was second on on Alysheba and eighty seven Ferdinand feed him. I was second on twilight agenda I. Think in ninety one behind black tie affair and second in eighty five on on gate dancer behind The horse of Georgia proud truth proud truth yeah. Proud truth. John. Vh. That's correct. George Alaska for Darby Darby Dan. Farm. Yeah. You know we talk about this being the twenty year anniversary of Tis. Now's first Breeder's cup. Classic Win This is the twenty five year anniversary. Cigars huge win at Belmont Park and Tom Dirk. Stick, call that people will remember forever but the following eat. Inroad alphabet soup to knock off cigar at Woodbine what do you remember about that day? Yeah it was a cold kind of a nasty day. The weather was inclement and the My family had traveled with me from Los Angeles to Toronto. And I had a lot of really good chances that they are remember I was lower bare and I thought you know when I was going over the form the morning of the race I thought I got a chance to win three or four these things this afternoon it didn't didn't pan out. and then I was given a little frustrated as we got closer to the the classic. And you know got to where I said. Well, I'm only got one more chance here. Let's. Let's let's make this thing happen and the Alysheba I mean alphabet soup was was a very, very nice horse and but he was like a bicycle if If you weren't peddling he wasn't going forward. So he eat ice started riding him. Pretty vigorously at the five eighth pole as we after we turn down the backside just to maintain my position and when Cigar Rene's up on my outside. I was losing ground. But when I saw, it was cigar outside I thought well, I might be losing some ground, but he's losing more than I am. So we we had a pretty good chance that the head of the stretch and alphabet soup just put his head down he beat the preakness winner Louis Couture's. was second in the race and Cigar of course was third but very, very exciting day and it was a fun weekend too. I took my family to Niagara Falls for the first time and It's one thing that racing his riding horses and racing has done for me. I got to see some wonderful parts of this country and the world because of the travels might my career would take me on but alphabet soup. Got The job done that afternoon. Well, Chris, I can tell you and I I know I've told you this publicly before, but I'll say it again as I was getting into racing and in growing up, I had to favourite jockeys Mike Smith and Chris McCarron, and you have always Mike to have always been so generous with your time when I call you and ask you to come on the program and this has been a fantastic trip down memory lane looking back on those breeders, Cup classic victories, just part of what made you, such a Great Hall of fame writer and really appreciate the visit. It's always so much fun and never never obstreperous to do an interview with you. Well thanks to have Mike and My I should bite my tongue before I say this but I'm going to say it anyway the steelers have a lot better chance this year than the Patriots do. So if if we if we went act. I I. I liked that organization and and I hope they continue to do well for you. Know you're a huge supporter of the Pittsburgh steelers so go steelers. Love Wow save that on tape right there Chris McCarron ladies, and Gentlemen Chris appreciate the visit. Buddy. Thank. My thinks they have me take care of buddy. Lau Chris McCarron just go steelers on my but you know I remember a few years ago. We we did an interview in the studio and The steelers and the Patriots were getting ready to play in a playoff game i. think it was and Chris came in all in his patriots stuff and of course, I had my steelers stuff. I'm because that's pretty much what I wear every day of the year and got. A great picture with Chris in the studio with the two of us together like that and he's when I say that he's a great ambassador for the sport and he's a classy guy and and he's done things the right way all of these things that you say about guys like, Chris. McCarron like a Mike Smith like John Velazquez any of these guys that are you'll Ramon Dominguez Heavier Castellano good family guys class act in the list goes on and on and on. There are so many great people in the sport and Chris Certainly right there at the top of the list. Yeah Great Memories to the Breeders Cup classics and Tis now. If you're just joining me officially retired from Stud duty at Windstar this past week that was announced and You know what a career for Tis now at Stud and on the Racetrack Gutsy horse and his Chris called them the Ironhorse for Sherp are going to get to another break I'll come back and. Get you set for the second half of the program that's next on Equine Forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network. Your home for the twenty twenty triple crown and Breeders Cup. Power. Passion. Z. Waiting by net goes down performance. Gains Waist down. Conti. 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On the outside as rap, the lead and takes off with three sixteenths to go suddenly clear by four Mr Crows on the wrong lead trying to rally we'll go down toward the inside, but they're all painting. Sticky Tread by the sixteenth bowl with six late lead this one will ramble home much the best in the nineties bigotry by five in the end Mr Crow. Has Second Wilbur was third awesome Saturday but as for. About. Two equine here on H. R. N. Mike Pence Berna the backstretch taking you through these couple of hours on this Saturday morning the twenty four, th day of October two thousand twenty thirteen days away from the Breeders Cup. World, championships that was traveled a stone with the call of the two thousand eighteen aristocracies Churchill downs, chief secretaries' getting the victory in that one translates to. Chief Scar. He actually has a scar on his shoulder. So it was appropriate that chief secretaries' would be the name of this very talented horse. He is a potential runner in this year's Breeder's Cup sprint for trainer Shawn Davis. Who is my guest this past Wednesday night on trainer talk, which you can hear every Wednesday presented by Phasing Tipton and what a Story Sean Davis has. And if you missed the show, I'm going to encourage you right now to head back over to our website at some point this weekend and check it out. because. You're talking about a guy in Sean Davis. Seventy nine years old. and. A three time world champion saddlebronc writer. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, nine, he was inducted into the pro Rodeo Hall of fame he spent time. Working on the ranch of famed Oil Company executive and legendary Horse Breeder Nelson Bunker. Hunt. And he's dined with late President Ronald Reagan, on the White House lawn. Those just a few of the highlights from Sean Davis's resume and we spent an hour on trainer talk. Looking back on his career as. A SADDLEBRONC rider looking back on his involvement with race horses and how that love began for him. It was. A super entertaining. Our and his story is just fantastic. So after we finish up here or at some point this weekend, treat yourself to that trainer talk show presented by Phase Tipton. It's on our website horse racing radio dot net as our all of our podcast. If you missed the BRIS THAT DOT COM call in show from this past week, you can head over and check that out. If you missed our Friday night weekend stakes preview, which is presented by naira. With Bobby Newman Anthony's to be a walking through all the weekend's big races and sharing their selections head over there and podcast that to in and listen horse racing radio, dot net horse racing radio network on Apple podcasts, and other way the you can access all of our shows what I told you thirteen days away from the Breeders Cup but not from our coverage, which will begin on the Tuesday before. Breeders Cup. With the first of three Breeders Cup countdown shows. Bobby Newman Jude Feldman with you for two hours Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday morning at Breeders Cup Week to get you set for all of the racing action. You'll hear interviews with owners and trainers, breeders, and handicappers and jockeys. It's going to be a fun week of coverage as it is every single year here on the network and we are proud and privileged to be able to say that we have been the exclusive radio partner of the Breeders Cup World Championships since two thousand seven. Fourteen years and going strong and really appreciate being part of that spectacular event in having it returned to the. BLUEGRASS uric. Keelan makes it even more special. All right second half of the show kicks off with Dr, Jim Chia pet from flair strips that comes up next Josie Carroll the Canadian Hall of FAMER GETS READY TO SADDLE MIGHTY HEART in today's breeder stakes at Woodbine. She's GonNa be with me at nine twenty talking about going for the eighth triple crown in the history of Canadian racing later today and Darren Rogers the director of communications at Churchill talks about their fall meet, which begins tomorrow. That's all ahead. Right after we pause ten seconds for station identification this horse racing radio network. From the rail to your radio this is the horse racing radio network. To late lead Dr Post has booked up with it outside of the second nomadic disturbed butter days. Yard. Many Franko. Up Bound. Much. Thanks. Improbable who has taken command with authoritative run from last I, what a star probable has turned into as he is going to rob in the awesome. Again, welcome to the Equine Forum on our AP runs right by. Around and Rachi sixteenth go honor a pale. Authentic rushing running late, it will be honoring paid very impressive winner of the run. Happy I needed nervy Tom's Day tosh, shake it up shake up to a three length lead by my standards is trying hard but he's still second sober. Does this third multiplayer trying to come on late for fourth but with a sixteenth to go, it's total domination for Tom's day TA. Now, here's Mike. Welcome back hour number two, the Mind Borel, rolling on busy Saturday morning first, half of the show featured by interviews with owner and HR, and colleague Dan Mason Hall of Fame Jockey Chris McCarron. If he missed any portion, all you have to do is head back over to our website horse racing radio dot net. You can listen to the podcast of this show and all of our shows at your leisure horse racing radio dot net is the place to be. Well the poll question today, which you are weighing in on on our twitter feed, and so many of you are taking the time to do that. And I appreciate it with mighty heart going for the triple crown in Canada. Today, it would be just the eighth triple crown winner in the history of Canadian racing. We've had thirteen here in the US. which is more difficult to accomplish the US triple crown. All run on the dirt or the Canadian triple crown run on three different surfaces. The distances are the same. It's the surfaces that change. In Canada. So which is more difficult to accomplish the US triple crown the Canadian triple crown and right now I'm actually. Really surprised by this result, seventy, three percent of HR nation saying the US triple crown, this more difficult to accomplish. I don't know I. Running on three different surfaces in those triple crown races makes extremely difficult to pull off the feat. Seventy three percent of you saying it's the triple crown that's more difficult. We'll have to ask trainer Josie Carroll when she joins me at nine twenty eastern time. But time now to welcome in my good friend Dr Jim, Chia Paddock co-founder of flair strips who has also been involved with another new project that we'll talk about here momentarily. But DOC first and foremost I. Know you're up in the great state of Minnesota Good Morning and happy to have you on board. Hey thanks, Mike, how are you? I am well, how's the everything wherever the hell? Minnesota's how's everything up that way? You know I think like every time you and I talk. It's either during a blizzard a right after blizzard except when I was in Louisville for the Derby this year so I want you to know we once again Harrys. Snowfall. Early in the year. So as I look out on my being fields. I. Still Wonder why I'm living here. I don't WanNa hear anything about snow on October twenty four. How much snow? Did you get doc? I think we've got about six inches but I I still use deer hundred that once in a while. Yes just a coating and then it can go away right after deer season I I grew up in Massachusetts. I've seen enough snow to laugh last me a lifetime. Yeah, that's what I'm feeling here. Too I I've seen plenty so. We'll dock listen We're GONNA talk plenty about flare here over the course of the next several minutes but I I do want to ask you about a new project that you became involved with you launch something brand new at the Kentucky Derby. It's called fantasy eight and we talked about it on this show I promoted it a couple of times. I think it's a fantastic concept how to go and what's next for fantastic. What Mike we're pleased. We launched the Derby and the goal was to put items from jockeys or horses that we're going to be entered in the Derby and particularly items that were used in the Derby. Approximately, before the event occurred and I, think we had around thirty seven items went up We had about five hundred bidders on it, and so for first run, we're very pleased with it. the whole goal is to bring fans in another way so that when those gates open and they see a horse come out, they own a little piece of that horse in one anecdotal I got a call from an executive who who participated on these from the Minnesota United Soccer. Team. And we had set it up so that there was big that went on from the up until about an hour before the gates close and then in that last hour, there was extended bidding only for those people that participated in the earlier bidding. And while I'm not sure that was the smartest thing for us to do because it. It took bidders out who wanted to swoop in in the last minute. EMBIID It's something that's done on some auctions and we were testing things but he called me up I right because. He actually was going to bid on all authentic halter and he. He hadn't been earlier. He thought he swooping at the last minute and he said it didn't happen and he said I've never watched derby in my life so off. and. That's what we wanted to do is going to energize people get them engaged in enthused So he he said you know I I stayed tuned in and now I wanna see what happens next. So I you know whenever you start a project like this you pressure testings things and you try to out what the consumer wants what people like. We're GONNA do the same thing at Breeders Cup. We'll probably do some adjustments. We really want to focus their on items that jockey's put up and focus on the jockey Always think of the jockeys at least from our end is the giants of the industry and it would be great to focus on them as well as supporting Moore charities in the money that's raised through Fantastic. Well you're not a website guy necessarily doc. You are a veterinarian by trade and just kind of are are you practicing now? Mike I I don't I quit. I quit practicing many many years ago when I've been involved I'm actually an attorney and I figured the world didn't have enough of them. So I went back law school. And spend my life in human medical product development. So I, I've worked for a company called Boston scientific where we made pacemakers and cardiovascular stamps and. Devices for people with Parkinson's disease, and so I spent a good chunk just working with the development and approval of of human medical products which is fairly. heavily regulated industry. Any product that gets put into patients you have to have a lot of data and evidence. So I've been kind of in in that world of heavy duty data science evidence. Outside of my equine ventures as well. Talking with Dr Jim Chia the CO founder of flair nasal strips. Let's talk about flare dot. Can you start by giving a quick review of how flair works and then we'll talk about some of the benefits you know it's really simple. Horses only breathe through their nose when they're running, they can't breathe through their mouth. And as as many parts, the horse they were Kinda designed by committee, and in this case, there's an area tissue. Over the nasal passages, a horse that is unsupported by bone, and so when worth Horse Greasy in that tissue get sucked down and in so doing it just narrows the nasal passage who makes it harder for them to bring air in? and. All flair does is is put up a little bit of support on those nasal passages. So they don't collapse in and it's it's nothing magical. Law Physics call posses law that says if you have a slow through a tube and you open it by an increment to one, your resistance to flow goes down sixteen fold. So just providing a little bit support, their helps a horse breed easier and particularly at a time when just the act of running room hard is in fact causing the Nasal passages to close down further you know then when they're standing still. So when you look at a horse running not their nostrils, the area behind the nostrils, which is the narrowest part of the upper airway that's get sucked in and actually closes down during intensive exercise and all we're trying to help support that like any other tissue you want to support. The late so that it doesn't collapse down we maintain that tube as as open viable as possible. One of the hot topics in racing over the past several years has been E. I. P. H., which is exercise induced pulmonary hemorrhaging. At otherwise known as bleeding and the debate over using lasix, not using lasix. What might alternatives Beata lasix all of those types of things we've heard about it ad nauseam really in the sport of thoroughbred racing over the past several years. How does flare actually help with? Ph Doc. So, Michigan State had done some work US years ago to show that the strips reduce resistance to breathing. And if you think about a horse when they're pulling a lot of area in there like a big bellows. And when that bellows opens up, they're pulling a lot of air through that hole and and that creates a lot of resistance guy named John, West? Really sorted out the the mechanism of action of what's going on with horses that. Lead and what West showed that. It's it's really due to these pressure swings. Within the long as you've got a high positive pressure in the blood vessels as the blood flowing through and on the other side of the wall of the vessel, you got a really strong. Pressure and so. Just having those two forces on this fragile membrane caused it to rupture and when it ruptures that's wouldn't. blood vessels escape into the airways. So it's all surrounded around this this to down in the lungs and what what flair does. Is, it reduces the amount of vacuum pressure if you think about a vacuum sucking something. The power vacuum a little lower. So it sucks a little less. It pulls less on that wall in tears. It has less chance at tearing. Because, as I said on the other side of that wall, you've got a really high blood pressure because the horses heart is beating. Quickly pumping more blood lasix works to reduce that earn internal pressure in the blood vessels. So if you think of a balloon. And you're putting a whole bunch of force inside to expand the balloon and then someone standing outside. Yanking on the outside of it at some point, it's going to break and that's what happens. So lasix works to reduce the pressure from the inside and flair works to reduce the pressure. From the outside and either alone or with Lasix, it reduces the amount of bleeding that occurs. And that membrane is really really fragile people talked about well, maybe we can feed them something to to make that membrane thicker stronger. And while in theory, that's a great idea. if we could do it for bleeding the reality is reason horse has got the athletic capability that they do or at least one of the reasons is a really efficient at moving oxygen and carbon dioxide back and forth in the body that makes them. You know the ability to do this is because it goes back and forth over. That membrane surrounding those blood vessels. That's about one hundred to sickness of a human hair. And you need that and if you make it thicker, you make stronger. So it breaks less. But. You're also gonNA take away the capabilities of which is to be able to move oxygen and carbon dioxide back and forth. So we live with this fragile balance as we're going to do with any athlete up, you know the elite of their game that. you know these horses are finely tuned. So we're trying to maintain the appropriate balance on that membrane. So the blood. Stays in the blood vessels and not outside the into the airways, which is what occurs with bleeding. So let's say that Lasix does indeed get phased out or continues to be phased out it more racetracks and more jurisdictions around the country how The. Impact flair dot. Well. Obviously flair given that there's so much research on it. It should impact flair. You know positively I think I don't want to get into the. Debate but I think we need to do some some better research on what's going on. We spent fifty years with the same drug and we really haven't gotten any better at how we can reduce it. So you know the subsidy is the mother of invention and I think as we look for better solutions, it's going to cause us to look. At the at what's going on down there I think years ago a guy named Jim Rooney. Dr? Rooney wrote a book on the Bio mechanics if he lameness and he looked at. The physics and the mechanical aspects of what's going on in the orthopedic frame of A. Horse. To better understand lameness, we need to do the same thing with the lungs and look at the bio mechanics of the lungs and why What's going on down there? You know, how do we? How do we impact maybe the elasticity of these blood vessels so they're more able to withstand the pressures at the subjected to. So I think player should at least stain where it's at right hope move up with with more usage obviously I'm in the business of selling nasal strips. But I'm also in the business I'm looking for things that have good science and I think the one thing we want to be mindful of. Is Looking at data, and as I said, I came from a background of heavy data and that's what I look for in. I see a lot of things popping up out there I think trainers and horsemen embedded areas generally need to. Look at the data challenge today. Then ask questions there are. You know we've we've had a lot of research done with flair side by side with lasix. A, lot of these studies have been cited for the quality of the studies. And that's what we want to see is let's learn more. Let's try things but let's really understand what's going on at the. At the cellular level, and this is where we need to continue to fund research for. Students in the veterinary world better understand it I think Hopefully, we can come up with things You know you're constantly evolving trying to make things better for these animals the more we learn. And I'm hoping it's going to move things in that direction overall the science. The a problem with racehorses is is they're not lab rats and I say that without the in too harsh lab rats but these studies aren't cheap they're very. Very expensive because for research institutions to maintain a herd of horses that we can study. Gets gets outrageous in in cost, and so we have to find ways to for researchers to normalize standardize what they're doing. So even if they're only working with ten horses here and ten horses there. They, they've at least done enough standardization that we can pull those small populations into bigger populations to give us better evidence. On what's going on? So you know the goal is to continue to get smarter and improve what we can do these with these horse to keep them healthy and I I think you know a lot of people are motivated now to continue to look if we don't have license to to rely on for the flu work, it's been doing this space for years. Well. DOC will encourage people head over to the flare website, which is flair STRIPS DOT COM to learn more about the strips how they work and to place an order to they can do that flair strips dot com appreciate the visit and this interview. All our interviews brought to you by embrace the race the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle where you love and embrace your passion at embraced the race Dot Com Daca let you go shovel the driveway and appreciate the visit my friend Hey make good talking to you have a great day All right FLAIR SCRIPTS DOT com the place to go for more information. On Dr Jim Chia pet and that really really outstanding product. So many horsemen are using now going to get to another break when I come back, it is time for my interview with Josie Carroll, the Hall of Famer going for the triple crown at Woodbine. Later, this afternoon with a very talented mighty heart. This is the forum on H.. R. N.. Racing is closing weekend in Santa Anita. Don't miss a minute of the action at Santa. Anita Dot com that's right. Are Races are available, live and free of charge on our website, and you can also watch and wager via. I. Bet Dot Com that's the number. 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We'll Josie Carroll is an industry star and it is an honor to have her as part of the program. Again, this morning she joins me from Canada on a morning that has to be a little bit different for her going for the triple crown later today. Josie Good Morning happy to have you onboard. Okay morning. Looking forward to the big horse strutting his stuff this afternoon When I say going for a Canadian triple crown or eight triple crown, what do those words mean Josie Carroll it's a very exciting day. I have I. Have To say you know we've we've been fortunate to to play a lot of a lot of Nice races but. You don't often get the chance to be a contender for the for the triple crown. How special is this horse? Josie? I I can't even tell you. He's just seems. The more you ask them the more he gives you. Improve improves it'll be a big test you know mile and a half on the grass you know proves himself out attic. He's Chris. Tough on dirt and now you're going a long way on a Thursday. If, he can pull this off. He's pretty extraordinary horse. I'm so glad you brought that up because I did a poll question on our HR and twitter feed today and I ask people which of the triple crowns, the US triple crown or the Canadian triple crown is more difficult to accomplish and I've always been of the opinion is the Canadian triple crown because you have to win on three different surfaces that distances are the same but the the surfaces are completely different and that takes a very special horse doesn't it? It doesn't need. So, would you agree this the Canadian triple crown harder to accomplish? You know I wouldn't say that I think it's it's it's like totally differently. You know we are to be fair running in you know restricted race for Canadian breads So we don't have quite A. Large number of the that may show up for the race. You know they're obviously the US has a much larger full crops that could show up for the triple crowns versus you know our. Population here but. As we said to do it on three surfaces, I don't know that. Anybody triple triple crown horses that have won all of them on the dirt We'll be able to do it. It's hard to say. What gives you the confidence that mighty heart can handle this mile and a half turf test later today. You know. I mean pedigree says he will. He skipped over worked in on it. I had on the EP Taylor course last week he skipped over it but truly I don't think until you ask a horse to go on a hock- you really don't know if they're going to get that trip it's You know it's the truth has the stamina. Yet have speed I mean you have to have. Everything everything to accomplish this. Yet his sire drafty. You go back and look at his record. He won the Alcorn at keeneland going a mile and a half on the turf. So that has to give you some confidence to you talk about the pedigree. It's all there for mighty heart. The pedigree. The pedigree's the pedigree's there. You know I guess You know now we just have to beat eleven other horses also nice horses trying to do the same thing. Yeah. Were you surprised to see eleven horses entered in this race against him? Know I actually was a little bit But. You know it's a it's a great deal of money and everybody has right take their shot like. Yeah. No doubt about it talkie with Hall of Fame Trainer Josie Carroll here on the Horse Racing Radio Network. She again trains mighty heart goes for the triple crown later, this afternoon at Woodbine in the breeder stakes mile and a half on the turf Josie has this week or this morning felt any different to you coming into a an opportunity like this? Actually, this whole week has has been a little different Got A lot of media attention. He's He's a great feel good story. That's sort of captured a lot of. A lot of people's imagination. So we have a lot of people showing interest. in this race and this horse. So that makes it a little different. I can remember we broadcast American Pharaoh winning the triple crown here on the network broadcast justify winning the triple crown and I can remember having conversations with Bob Baffert before those races and he talked about going back and watching the other US triple crown winners in how they were prepared for that final leg and he tried to take something from each one of them that he could use with American fare win justify. Gone back and watched the other seven triple crown winners are talk to any by one the breeder stakes, multiple times or anything like that. Interesting, question you know certainly looked at all those horses races but at the end of the day, I think this is a very unique horses. Style. He's A horse. It's going to either on the pace or close to the pace. can't really make a lot of adjustments so. Really, have to let him run his race at the end of the day. Josie you didn't come from a racing family or go to the track as a child in here you are with an opportunity to train the eighth triple crown winner in the history of Canadian thoroughbred racing at could you ever Imagine Josie? Carroll would be in this position. Amazing right pretty. Amazing. I I love this sport I I love racing and kicked an honor to. In this position. Busy Yeah. It really is an honor. It's an honor to talk you every time. We have the chance and you're always so gracious with your time really appreciate it I. Know It's a busy day for you. So I'll let you go all the best with mighty heart later. Today, we'll be watching and we'll be cheering. Thank you very much. Josie Carroll here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Yeah I mean she did not. She I remember she join me on my trainer talk show Gosh was probably. Maybe, five years ago now. And at that point, she trained six hundred and eight winners in her career, and she has now saddled well over eight hundred I believe I think it's the number's eight, fifty, two. Yeah. Eight, fifty, two according to Echo. Base. Multiple graded stakes winning trainer, and now sitting here with a chance to win. The triple crown. But she did not she didn't come from a racing family. She didn't go to the track as a child but she always. Had A passion for thoroughbreds and for horse racing and from the time that she was very, very young. She followed racehorses and kept charts of their races and that's how she I got interested in thoroughbred racing she graduated with honors. In an associate degree in equine studies from Humber. College. And then worked. With John Senior for some time. who was at the time training for the prestigious King Haven farm if you remember and ended up as his assistant traveling between Florida and Canada while she learned very, very well and somebody who didn't grow up around the sport, she has just sorta say fallen in love with that in the native of Toronto Canada. Boy Hoping for big things later today as she looks to settle the first triple crown winner in Canadian racing since Wando. Pulled off the feet back in two, thousand, three and good luck to Josie. Good. Luck to mighty heart. horse it is is all heart he has been very, very good in dominating restricted bread coming at like. I asked her the question right which one's more difficult to accomplish US triple crown. The Canadian. Triple Crown I've always said the Canadian triple crown because of the as I've talked about because of the. Various services that you have to compete on, but she points out keep in mind. That it's Canadian breads, only restricted Canadian breads. So you don't typically faced the type of competition you phase in the US triple crown with horses coming from all over the country all over the world. So that's a whole different scenario. And maybe it is a little bit of apples to oranges in some respects because of that fact, but the fact still remains you have to win. Three triple crown races on three different surfaces up in Canada, and that's what mighty heart will try to do later today. All right it is time now for our monthly visit with the folks at four roses Bourbon and Brent Elliott is the master distiller at four roses and. Caught up with him not long ago and I asked him to talk about his new small batch select, which is the newest product, and they're going to roll it out and even more states coming up in twenty twenty one but it's kind of the newest offering from four roses and he talked about the regular. For. Roses. Small batch and then the small batch select here's what Brent had to say. Original small batch was launched in two, thousand six and really that's when we created the small batch platform, and that's where we go back to our library of ten recipes and use different combinations to create truly different products. And with the original, that was four recipes, ninety proof six and seven year old barrels that go into it, and then sometime in two, thousand, seventeen, two, thousand, eighteen, we saw that there was some changing the band in the market people are looking for different types of products specific non chill filtered products or higher proof products. So thought that was a great opportunity to go ahead and expand on the small batch concept by. A new small batch product. So what we did is we decide to do a non chill filtered higher proof. This is one hundred, four proof Bourbon and to expand on small concept we. Went into our ten recipes and I selected six of the recipes and did a lot of test blending to try to hit just the perfect flavor profile that would both be. Very good and also from our other products and I think we've really achieved that with this one, it's it's very unique from the other products it's. Very rich robust being non chill filtered and a higher proof. You get a lot more intense flavors coming through the very rich, very nice Bourbon. Yeah. There's no doubt about it and I've been a fan of the small batch for a very long time I the original small, Batra? Have a bottle of it sitting on my bar right now as a matter of fact, and the small batch select really i. I always liked small bats because I always thought it was a smooth easy drink are really enjoyed the flavor of it and the small batch select was just the next step in that progression and it was as you kind of a more robust type Bourbon and man I was fantastic previous thing. So how much trial and error was there when you were going through and trying to get the right blend the right formula, the right flavor, the right concept when you're when you're putting this whole thing together. Brent. I hard to really put a time on it because I worked on it sort of at my own pace I took my time with it for probably the better part of a year. But. It wasn't like formulating limited editions where it's you know pull the barrels and I need to blend everything together and come up with the tests blend within two months. You know this we knew it was coming was a lot of preparation time. So I had a lot of time. To describe variations of see how different recipes work together, what percentages we needed to achieve the flavor profile that ultimately became small that select. Is this the flavor profile you thought you were going to come up with when you first started the process In the direction of the final flavor profile because really. The. One of the cornerstones of the unique flavor profile is. How we utilize the F.. E. Strains which. At five string. That's the one that creates kind of spear mindy herbal flavors, and so I had in the back of my mind for a while that was really what we utilize to set this apart from the other products, and so every test was kinda based around that f you strain trying to see what other east rains would work well with it and create new and unique flavors. So innocence I kinda had an idea of the direction, but it wasn't till I got in lab started doing all the plans that you know the the blends and the learning to the process directed us to. What we landed on, which is what you taste on the fourth of July. Yeah I think I said to my text was easy to see why you were. Given that award as master distiller of the year, and I'll echo sentiments again, well, done with four roses, small batch shellacked and with all the bourbons at four roses and Brett will encourage people to go to four roses Bourbon Dot Com to learn more about everything that four roses offers I really appreciate the visit again here this morning my friend keep up the wonderful work and will continue to be mellow and be responsible before roses at sounds. Great My. When I come back, I'm going to visit with Darren Rogers who is the director of communications at Churchill downs. He'll look ahead to the fall meet which kicks off tomorrow right here on the equal forum on H. R. R. N. The Breeders Cup runs here there will be. A fourth juul. He's A. Credit to the sport of America. Has, felt a grand slam. The Breeders Cup Classic Wins It in two minutes only on HR. 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My name is able Ghana's listen to or racing radio network. You're listening to the Equine Forum on the Horse. Racing. Radio Network Tom, day todd decisively from the now third now second then coming up on the outside of come off the turn Mr freeze defend off toms data who's rally other front with three sixteenths to go. Mr Freezes battling on those major cabbies further back in third on one deal. With draft pictures one for a long ago Tom Day pod got a four length clean at the sixteenth. All vistor freeze trying to hold per second. But Thomas, day Ta has conquered the Clark wrapped up in the end to win it by threes. Piper Second Dail came flying late to Mr freeze draft pick for. Welcome back to equine forum right here on H. R. N. Mike. Barron the backstretch with you on this Saturday morning. One more segment to go before we wrap things up and it's a big one turning our attention to churchill downs in the opening of their fall meet, which occurs tomorrow that meet runs through November twenty, nine, th that was travis stone. You just heard him with the call of last year's Clark Handicap and Tom's day TA. For. Trainer. Al Stall getting the victory. He is one of the horses that figures to get some money in this year's Breeder's Cup classic maybe some people would say the horse beaten he's been in great form here in twenty twenty and would be a second Breeders Cup. Classic Victory For al Stall after getting the victory with blame back in two thousand and ten knocked off Xanada. The Clark is always a highlight of that fall meet the one, hundred, thirty, I fall meet commences tomorrow and joined now by Darren, Rogers director of communications at Churchill to preview what you can expect over the next several weeks Darren first of all good morning and by the way I know you have a big smile on your face after your dodgers went up two games to one over the raise last night. YEP WE'RE UP TO ONE it's been a long time between drinks mike since Kirk Gibson hit that home run and nineteen, eighty eight. But hoping the this could be the year we're just at the half pole of the race. So can't get too excited, but it's nice to be A. Up Two games to one and we've got Julio. On the on the bump tonight. I saw a stat I. Guess. It was maybe on ESPN yesterday where they were talking about the series in the team that wins that third game when the series is tied, one to one gets that two games to one advantage wins like sixty something percent of the world series when that happens so. The odds are in your favor. Odds are during the favourite, but that means forty percent of the time. They. Come on your cloud. Kind of. Guy. I'm not look I'm a I'm a lifelong dodger's fan and I'm not GonNa try and Cry Wolf like you know the old cup fans and red sox fan I just telling yeah, I. was a fleet footed shortstop in highschool the last time the the dodgers won the world series. Say That's a long time ago. Well that's series continues tonight. Is that right? Game Number Four? Does Yep Yeah you said. Okay. All right well, that that happens tonight. So you'll be up watching that game but tomorrow we get a chance to get up early and tackle the one, hundred, thirty, I fall. meet at Churchill downs, which figures to get off to a rousing beginning with the first of two stars of Tomorrow Programs Eleven races tomorrow all for two year olds. I post one PM that is such a great concept Darren and I know it's really caught on with horsemen. Yeah this is the the sixteenth year that Churchill downs is hosted this and you know, of course, we have one on opening day tomorrow, and then we have one at the tail end the meat. But you know stars of Tomorrow you know started in two thousand and five, and it's helped launch the careers you know of numerous graded stakes winners but it it's been more than fifty future grade one winners. You've had the you know the horse of the year champions Gunrunner Rachel Alexandra. Twenty ten derby winner Super Saver You've had a trio of Kentucky Oaks winners emerged from their Rachel Alexandra believe you can monoploy girl trio of preakness winners was added this year with the he hits Shackelford War of will and then Swiss skydiver. And then a couple of Belmont winters as well. Creator and you remember Tis law finish third and last year's Kentucky Jockey Club. So it's really produced You know it lives up to its name. Stars of tomorrow we love it. We have eleven racist tomorrow. There's an average field size of more than that nine and a half horses race. So should be some excellent betting on Sunday for the first of twenty four days. Yeah it's GonNa be a great card and it's always a fun meet. It's a different type of meat than we're used to seeing in the spring when all the attentions on the Kentucky Oaks and the Kentucky Derby and that seems to be. Let's just put it this way I think the fall meet tends to be a little more laid back much like keeneland fall me is more laid back than their spring meet it's kind of the same concept isn't it? It is and and I'm with you like I really really enjoyed the race because you. You have a lot of two year olds and and and obviously the in nineteen pandemic. I think it's safe to say that a a lot of the juvenile's year or even behind schedule just a bit and we're GonNa see a lot of you know promising two year olds uncorked at the meat. You have horses that are seeking you know end of the year maybe graded stakes glory. We have ten stakes races You Know Worth One point eight million dollars over the course of the five weeks. And then you have, you know some horses that have been freshened up they're preparing for maybe winter campaigns data. At Gulfstream Park Oaklawn Park fairgrounds etc. a turf way park to this year with with with the the installation and the improvements of the the Topeka up there you're gonNA see a lot of Kentucky Horseman sticking around here in the wintertime. So yeah, it's it's such a tremendous meet betters. Love it. You have some competitive full fields typically with less competition around the rest of the country. You know. There's more horses that are coming in and will average nearly nine horses race. If the the recent past is any indication. Yet speaking of fans tomorrow will mark the first time. This year that spectators can return to churchill downs for live racing. It will be an unlimited capacity tell more about that. That's exciting news. Yeah, we're looking forward to this Mike You know we're GONNA continue a church announced follow the covid nineteen you know health and safety protocols. for venues and events that's been mandated by the Commonwealth of Kentucky. and. You know people ask how many how many people you can allow in well when you need it Oh in advance you know with the cooler weather, you know this time of year last year's average daily attendance during the fall me the church is about forty, two hundred guests and we're going to expect much less than that i. in fact I I think it's safe to say I. We'd be thrilled if we could meet half of that. I the demand's not there. You look at other sporting events Some people don't want to come out still, but there are others that are itching to get back to the racetrack and we have successfully you know. During the tail end of the spring meet obviously during the the September me We had participants with owners on hand. We WanNA start welcoming back some of the guests and as you know, as we were leading up to Kentucky Derby one forty six. We were prepared to Host you know crowd of up to twenty, three, thousand people But you know taking a look at the numbers with with Kentucky and speaking with the the governor's office. You know we just thought it was best to to to pull back on that. So we're ready now at a much lower capacity we're gonNA have some of the select rooms on the clubhouse side open you know the turf club that Rose Lounge, the stakes room as well. Everything is going to be you know totally Socially distanced limiting news indoor premium areas with the proper social, distancing the the limited capacity for the state's requirements for venue and event spaces so we're not selling general admission you will you know if you if you plan to come out to Churchill downs you can go onto churchill downs, dot com click on tickets or you could walk up to one of the box office gates To sell first floor box seats. At. Mission pricing for just five dollars. That way we can you know capture name and number for each individual that's on the property, and by the way the masks are mandated throughout You can remove it if you're eating or drinking, and we'll have a medical questionnaire and then take a temperature check for everybody that comes through the facility. But we're looking forward to to to to to having some folks back and I think you know the whole race in industry. I think you could speak for all the tracks that have been up and running. This is it. It's just been unique. It's been strange. Not hearing crowds and it'll be nice to hear people again. As the horses, come down the stretch to hear some people cheering rooting clapping for the winters as they return back on the Gallop back to the winter circle take the I. Know We've missed it as you know, track operators. I'm confident the jockeys and the trainers and the owners have felt the same. So we're looking to get back to a little bit of normalcy, but in a responsible fashion. Yeah Amen to that how about concessions betting windows those types of things Darren will will there be some that will be open or none at all. Yeah? NO WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA open up the second four clubhouse. Okay. We'll also have some dining as well. Betting Windows we'll be open there'll be spaced apart again, we don't expect. You know a big crowd. I, I would I would I would expect I think we. You know a couple of thousand people even everybody asks about Thanksgiving Day, I can tell you our our ticketing department you know is reached out to a number of the customers the box seat holders, Turf Club members what are what are their pensions and we you know you get a pretty good idea that demand really isn't there and I think that's not unique to horse racing. That's an any sporting event that's existing right now even the college football stadiums. You know. If you see a football stadium that says they permitted up to twelve thousand bands. There scratching and clawing to get to those twelve thousand fans amazingly because the demand just is there yet with where we are with with the pandemic. Talking with Darren Rogers the director of communications at Churchill downs, of course, the fall begins tomorrow runs all the way through the end of November November twenty ninth. I will be the final racing Wednesday through Sunday and the twenty four day stand should be extremely popular with better than with horsemen alike Darren, we talked about the stars of tomorrow programs the first one coming up on Sunday. The next one will be later in. November with Jockey Club, gold, Cup and the Goldenrod, both of those great twos on that program on November. Twenty Eighth Black Friday you have the grade one Clark which is presented by Norton Healthcare that's on November twenty seventh, and that's always a popular event. Of course that being a great one and being such a prominent historic race anything else that we're missing here. Any other highlights that people should know about with this meat. Well I think most importantly right now they should know that we're continuing to partner with the New, York Racing Association and they'll be able to watch every race every day on. Fox sports one or Fox sports to America's Day at the races. They do such a tremendous job Sunday's opener will be on F S to starting at twelve thirty it. It's been a great partnership. The program is really good. It's nice to see the. In High Definition, and for those folks that you know either can't make it out or they're at home they enjoy watching going to a sports bar College football maybe the NFL don't be afraid to have them turn on the channel as well. 'cause I know I've been doing that in the off season and I think it makes a a great way to to showcase the sport they really do a good job. Fantastic stuff they do they do a great job over there and Glad to see the Churchill continues to partner with them and we'll have the product out there listen man enjoy the world series enjoy that fall meet and as always greatly appreciate you taking the time to to spend a few minutes here this morning. Mike always great to talk to you best to you in the family and good luck to all the listeners out there. Stay. Safe and healthy. That's Darren Rogers here on H. R. N. and like all of our guests that appear on the program, this interview is brought to you by embrace the race the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle where would you love and embrace your passion by going to embrace the race dot com and had a chance to visit with Mike? Dean. 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Thanks to all of our gas for making the show possible. This morning owner Dan Mason kicked it off at eight fifteen eastern hall of fame. Jockey Chris McCarron was here to look back. Tis. Now's tremendous wins in the Breeders Cup Classic, and then he spent time looking at his other winds kristof five time winner. The classic that is tied for most in the history of the sport. He did that with me in the first half of the show. Dr. Jim Chipita from flair strips. Josie Carroll going for the Triple Crown today with mighty heart up in Canada at Woodbine. Good luck to her and Darren Rogers a short time ago from Churchill downs previewing the upcoming fall me. Well. If you missed any portion of the show, simply go to our website horse racing radio dot net to check out the podcast of this show and all of our programs and my thanks to everyone who took time to weigh in on the poll question this morning sixty, six percent of you saying it's more difficult to win the US triple crown then the Canadian triple crown. Interesting. From my producer lead Elefsina in Lexington studios for Chauncey handling all of our social media I'm Mike a big one tomorrow steelers titans go steelers.

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Equine Forum - June 15th 2019

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Equine Forum - June 15th 2019

"So this is the horse racing radio network. But at war will sixty bullet pride and front by two. I like charts whatever and psycho, but nothing. Laura well, one break, this bricks mortar pumps with March to the art nonetheless, posing with two and a half links to make up his sixteenth Dicko. It's curb on in front clydes bricks and mortar finding stride late in the game and bricks and mortars up in time for Jimmy Johns of Lexington studios. Welcome to the equine forum presented by Woodbine entertainment Lee aura, Channing hill on the outside of Sarah, giddy up rents boot Dickson toward the rail. It's these two Lydia poster the others, but buddy of work to do to these two and seven Getty, Chris, who's holding off the relatively Laura as they come down to the line. Serum Guinea, Chris, it's taken the Kentucky and being out also edging away from gift box. He's coming into his own, and beano Russel at age four goes on to win the Gold Cup at San Nita. Now, here's Mike Penner and Jud feld. Good morning, once again everyone, welcome to. To the equine forum, presented by Woodbine entertainment here in the month of June. Happy to have you with us. The horse racing radio network and happy to have you with us coming to you from our Jimmy Johns of Lexington broadcast studios Berna, the backstretch, Mike pent-up pontiff of the pick for Jude feld. Our producer, Lee dela Pena and looking forward to the next couple of hours, post triple crown here in two thousand nineteen. That's right. Another triple crown season in the books. No. Triple crown winner. This year. Matter of fact, we didn't have a horse win two legs. We had different winners of all three and that made it somewhat interesting into itself. J J T last weekend, we were at Belmont, got a chance to broadcast the Belmont, Stakes and Sir Winston from are Cassie getting the victory there. Mark. Cassie is an ego right now. He wins, two legs of the triple crown does it with two different horses. Yeah. He was the guy that that went to legs. Right. Right. So but yeah congratulations to Tracy farmer for for winning that race as well. Farmers put a lot of money in this game. And it was nice to see him when the Belmont Stakes. Yeah, it was great. You know, somebody who was it that sent out a tweet, there was a tweet out there. Oh, Seth marrow from capitol Oteibi sent out a tweet saying that if you go back in include the Canadian triple crown races. And you look at the results of those races. And then you look at the results of what happened here in the United States, this year, Mark Cassie his one four of the last five North American triple crown races. Wow, think about that because he, he won the queen's plate. And then he won the race at forty. It's the. Principal, prince of Wales right would. Nipple. W. A. L E. Yeah. He, he won that race would Nipah wa right? So now he takes those two and then missus on the derby, which may a lot of people think you should have won the derby to does that does that mean saffy Joseph, and Bob Baffert? They've won three triple crowns, between them. Is that what it is? Right. Yeah. Yes. It's it's odd to lump international racing with with North American racing and Canadian raising with US racing. But yes, that's the I thought that was an interesting tweet. I you know, just thinking about the success that markets had it. And look Mark Cassie nominated for the hall of fame the past couple of years. Unable to get in. I think with these two victories. It's a it's a no brainer. Now, I think he has to get it. Yeah. Well, it's inevitable, but, you know, you, you don't you don't count it till. It's on the board. You're up. I guess those are some of the things missing I do have a vote in the in the hall of fame voting. Those were a couple of the things really the one thing missing marks resume was that he didn't have a triple crown victory. And you can say okay, well, how pertinent is that? If you're gonna vote somebody into all fame, because the rest of his accolades are certainly very deserving of being in the hall of fame, but I said, okay, this is the one thing missing now. He has he has to as a matter of fact, so Bobby Frankel number one, a triple crown race. He's been in the hall of fame. A long time. Yes, I think about that. I don't think I don't think it's necessary. But I, I don't know how, how people view a body of work in, you know, it's funny too, because a lot of guys getting the hall of fame before they retire, or whatever it might be better to just wait till later. Although it's, it's nice to be in the hall of fame when you're still alive. Or young enough to enjoy? No. But. I, I don't know the current system is fine. I just think from year to year. And in bet Tabet, you know, people feel differently about about how certain trainers are around, so I just, I think Markle get in sooner or later and probably sooner. Now L let's say he's in next year that's up on the ballot again. 'cause I voted in that too. But I don't know where where he fell in the overall scheme of votes. I don't know if he was like on the edge. Do they give us that stuff? I don't remember getting. I don't know. I, I don't think they do. I don't think I've seen that. He must have been relatively close. I would I would think so. Yeah, so I would think so, so now we turn our attention to the road to the Breeders Cup. And for all of you who are wondering we are just one hundred thirty nine days, five hours and thirty one minutes away from the Breeders Cup world championships, November, first and second, potentially at Santa Anita in our Katya, California. That is where it is currently scheduled to be held, but with the issues that are going on at Santa Anita, you have to wonder if the Breeders Cup doesn't make a move and shift things someplace else. Yeah. We'll be interesting to see what happens with that. But what do you think if you had a bet right now, if I had to bet right now I would. Probably take a flyer on Keeneland. So you think they shifted to Keeneland that's what I think. But you don't think it stays at Santa Anita. I don't think it does. That's my gut. Yeah, I don't either. I don't think they can. Well, I can do whatever they want. But I don't think it's in the breeders cups best interest to keep it. It's in. Yeah. And when I say, I don't think they can what I mean by that is, yes, they can keep it there, if they would like to. But if anything would go wrong and something catastrophic would happen during one of those races. I'm not sure racing recovers from that racing is going to recover no matter what. I don't know if that's. I it's I mean, I don't understand why, why people say, you know racing the they're going to eliminate racing. They're not gonna to Nate horse racing. I mean, what's happening would happen at San Nita was was and is still happening. Well, the, the race tracks open anywhere. It's you could happen. Correct. But not in debt alarming rate. Well, the rate, the big the big part of the rate happened in the bad weather. You know, there was a, a mismanagement of, of the, the race track in the bad weather, but. You can't. It's, it's still a very small sample in the overall scheme of things. One is too many. Well, absolutely one is to man, we both agree on that. But I might take on it is that if they were to run there and something were to happen that, you know, the outcry from people outside of horseracing, and even within the industry. I think you're going to get some of that from within the industry that look they're going to say. Well, they just went there, knowing that this situation was happening and. They didn't care. They ignored everything all the warning signs. All that's why I don't think they can she hope is in a bad. I don't think well, I think the only move they can make from here is to move it someplace else, which is probably what's going to happen. Yeah. But it's all speculation at this point. Yeah. We know nothing as of now there's door Delgado from the Breeders Cup was with us last week. At the very end of the interview, she said, you'll be hearing something coming out soon. So I know they're talking about it the thinking about it, but as of now, we just don't know where it's going to be new anyway, one hundred thirty nine days away from the Breeders Cup. And we'll be there as your exclusive radio home also going to be at the queen's plate. We were talking about the Canadian triple crown will be there in a couple of weeks, looking forward to getting back to Woodbine. And then tonight, you're heading over to Churchill Downs you and Tom Leach, the voice of the UK Wildcats will be together above the finish line at Churchill Downs to have coverage of what is an outstanding card at Churchill Downs. The grey to Stephen foster the grey to floor, delete. Both win in your ends for the Breeders Cup races. Both of those racist, part of a car that has five greatest steaks on it tonight. Yes. The original tons of fun team back in. And it's always fun, working with Tom. He's great guy. We, we've worked Kentucky Derby together and had a good time. So looking forward to that, Sirius XM one fifty six where you can hear the coverage tonight. You can listen anywhere in the world on your Sirius XM connected devices, on, of course, you can listen worldwide with our live streaming at horse racing radio dot net. Coverage comes up eight to ten eastern time, and it's all presented by our friends at Breeders Cup so make sure you're tuned into that as well. Coming up here over the next two hours. We're going to what we'll talk about the Stephen foster. We're going to talk with Ed DeRosa, who was with Bris and twin spires he is also the host or co host of our brisk net dot com. Colin show every Thursday night here on the network. We're going to talk to about those races, and some of the horses he thinks can get to the winner's circle tonight that comes up in just about five minutes from right now, L, stall junior who say, saddles TOMS data one of the. Contenders in tonight. Stephen foster, he'll be with us at eight thirty five eastern time, and then in our, to we're gonna shift gears and we're going to focus on a couple of issues that have been prevalent in this war to thoroughbred racing. And of course, not the CNN Nita issue that we just referenced, but we're going to focus on the situation Illinois, where a gambling Bill is waiting to be signed by the governor, which would certainly benefit the industry in the state of Illinois. David McCaffrey, the executive director of the Illinois thoroughbred horse. Ms association will be with us at nine eastern. And then at nine thirty eastern, Eric Camelback the CEO of the national HP will be in studio with us. And he is just returning from Washington, where he was up there talking with different legislators about the industry. So we'll get an update from him coming up at nine thirty. That'll be good very interested in the situation that is probably going to save racing if they. Get it done. Yeah. I would think that it would go a long way toward making things better in that state for sure. I we're going to go out and get to our first break. We will come back we're going to visit with Ed DeRosa next on the forum on H R end and it's all presented by Woodbine entertainment Woodbine is now racing. 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Come forward slash laurel park for details. Hi, this is how you and I listened to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum presented by Woodbine entertainment, and he late is sent to the front sneaky. He's trying to go with the champion Nixon line moving on the outside comes Theresa. Z footmen heroin is among bottled. No doesn't seem to have it. Today's he turned for home. Whether they leak the catch running a big sneaky, he for the upset and Cerise ac- toward the inside. They went the mile in thirty six they really picks it up there, any leaping is the port on its late growing away. Sneaky Betty Theresa Z family for second third, but it's going to be late. Billy mount wins his third Jose Ortiz on board. Sneaky, Betty, Jane, second third photo for fourth meaty furiously kissing run. Title. He lays with the victory in the grade to Delaware. Handicapped, believe it or not. That was last July. And that was the last time that Elat found the winner's circle she is over three cents that winning effort. But that not deterring the morning line. Odds makers Churchill Downs as she is the eight to five morning line favorite in tonight's grey to Florida league which is a win. And you're in for the Breeders Cup distaff division. She's going to try to get back on track for trainer. Bill Mott under Jose Ortiz, when she goes to the post later tonight, and, again, our coverage coming up on Sirius XM one fifty six, you will hear the floor deli. And the Stephen foster is part of a stellar program at Churchill Downs on this downs after dark program and to help us figure everything out and maybe give you a tip or two is our good friend Ed DeRosa from brisk net dot com and from twin spires dot com. He is also the co host of our brisk net dot com. Colon show here on the network every. Thursday night with Anthony's to Bill Duke, the Duke of degeneracy. Welcome to the program, my friend. I always good to be back. And like you said hopefully that if you winners. Yeah. Hopefully, so it's a pretty good program there tonight you look at the five graded stakes and some I would think some pretty good betting opportunities in there. What say you? Yeah. Without question. Good mix. I think the way I like to play. I definitely like to hang my hat. And if you keep opinions, and I think, you know, the stakes versus have a few of those my and then two more open races that cast a wider net. Try to catch a price. But yeah. Hard to hard to think that all stakes pick five won't pay big balloons, or just there has to be a price somewhere in there may be to hopefully we'll find him but yeah, I mean really top to bottom. Racist, one through eleven lots of good competition. And for those in the area that can make the drive freight great party atmosphere to. Yeah. It's, it's a it's a great party atmosphere. It's always a fun night. The Stephen foster is set for nine forty seven eastern. So that will be the last race in our coverage tonight. We'll get to that race in a minute at its field of twelve and I'm sure you'll have a couple of opinions there. But let's start with the first of the five greatest. Aches races. The grade three Matt win mile and a sixteenth. It is for the three year olds. How'd you see that race? This is one of those. I'm hanging my hat. I thought Mr. money even though we didn't have my money when he did. It was was scintillating in the pet day, and it was one of those moments because I picked the stablemate by my standard the win the be and just the way the game work hard. It is to win these races. I definitely was nervous that breakout moon at two as is up as believe, let alone one. So when, when Mr. money aired that kind of dog my enthusiasm, that's the sky could win two hundred every day. But that was to me, one of the better performances on the undercard. The runner up, of course came back to win. The, the great one Woody Stephen some others out of the race have come out so run. Well, so the forms holding up and it's his race to lose. He's not a mortal lock in my mind, but I just think the rest behind him or competitive enough that I'm not really looking to. Go any deeper than this money. So we're going to ovarian early in this stakes pick by Mike. I was going to go, you're either in your out. Right. That's right. Yeah. You'll know me early as they say. I totally agree with you. I think he looks fantastic in there that race was superb in. You know, he likes Churchill Downs two out of three wins at Churchill. He should be very tough tonight. In the owners are big New Orleans supporter, and I know he has a big party for mardi gras. And that's the theme tonight. So it's all coalesced into it. Winter circle celebrates go wildcat blue silks too. So. All the bases cover. Swabi. Don't go band with them. Then. He is at DeRosa with us here on the horse racing radio network. All right, Ed, so that's the Matt win. We then turn our attention to the grade to wise. Dan, which is race number six post time of eight thirty seven eastern. Always a fun race mile and a sixteenth on the turf course. Yeah. This is one where I'm casting a wider net. Try to fish some prices out, the, the one for sure. I landed on that's going to be on, on my tickets is bourbon resolution for Ian Wilkes making his first start on the turf. New Year's day is okay as her Sira. And he's, he's good with that surfaces, any isn't your the blowing the doors off other than having the kind of derby winner. But Ian, worked this horse on the turf from all accounts of people who've seen the horse work on the turf, they, they may have actually found his surface, even though he's a great at six one around the dirt, don't love the post, but I think we're getting compensated at compensated for it with the price. And it just I think he's dangerous with Ian making a cagey move here in the wise. Dan? Well, it's a it's a tough race. You can you can you can use several horses in here. Yeah. And I will by no means is it all, you know, bourbon resolution but I think with fourteen going here soon, just the, you know, assuming there's this one scratch, which there has to be. But, you know, even with twelve or thirteen it's the type of race where you kinda wanna look furtively to this casual money in the pools. So bourbon resolution for me, I'm gonna check out the exact we'll ks and things like that. I just have to strong of an opinion, a hopeful price not to try to make some, hey, if he runs, well, I wanna make sure we have time to get through all the greatest stakes Ed but who are a couple of the others that you'll have your eye on in that wise. Dan? I'm getting my name's mixed up with the regret. Let me grab my now. Right. You're doing all this from memory. Why wasn't? So now. I do. I picked fourteen but I actually think parlor, draws man. He's dangerous. It'd be interesting to see Corey stays aboard up the up the horses. New probably will take money. I think the morning line favorite cope. I've been one choices definitely prefer. It's in the post to admission office of the dirt runners from California haven't been doing great shipping, east, but the turf has been okay. So a lot of respect for the whole time or seven year old gelding I think he fits with the better post and admission office got at a similar price. And then I pre- MIO drawn down inside for Cassie Brian Hernandez. Keeping them out, they don't team up a con these two but the fact that Brian stay pretty loyal to this horse for trainer. That doesn't write him a ton. I thought it's kind of interesting so up the lesson. Than ten to one horses. I'm three. Devin, and then fourteen and fifteen from the fire outside. I think that blow things up. All right. So I'm sure that you can do the next race by memory because there are only six horses. That's the grade to floor Lee, the favourite Elat, eight to five I reference coming out of that last commercial break looking for her first victory since last July. She'll face stiff test from blue prize in from she's a Julie, who is at the floor delay. With the late with eye tons of respect for the other two obvious ones. But she's truly toting one twenty four. I do think for pounds is enough to split here chair, they're very similar talent wise, but. Four pounds is pretty punitive against, you know, some really, really good filly. So that was the reason I draw line through, she's a Julie, then blue prize, of course fits to. But just the late consistently faster and overall has been fastest. I mean there was talk of her, you know, running in the classic last year. So for Bill might to even mention that I just think, you know, they're, they're looking for a win here and they get to avoid midnight Bijou came back and won the fifth, and that's the type of race to I think a lot of people say, oh, I could use all three and pretty much have it covered, and they have to go, leaner elsewhere in the pick five. So this is another situation where I'm gonna just stick a flag in late. And if, if she wins, great if not I won't feel like I missed anything as one of the other two to one Goku yourself from how to play the race. I'm definitely playing a try key box with her and the obvious three in with that means is basically, I'm playing to the three to hit the board with folk move yourself because I think she can have an impact, as you know, an outsider and I think there'll be a ton of money that just take the, the obvious three in boxing and do things like that or us all with them. So Vogel yourself as my try key. But elites the pick five single you're that's a great strategy. A lot of people miss that. But when you have a long shot that you like it's, it's good to put him with the contenders and see if you're walking around lucky that could be a nice, payoff. Yeah. I mean a little bigger field. Make me a little more excited to single or but so many people they'll go like three by three by all and the Tri or three bite. All I three it's just really inefficient. So, you know, again, it goes back to pick him with the opinion and just betting it and I think she can be dangerous and. That's the type a. Yeah, I'm betting late in the pick five I want her to win, but, you know it comes blue prize. Go Google yourself. She's a Julie. That's a number. I need to have with my opinion of Vogel's book yourself, will you'll get a big field in the next race. The grey to Stephen foster and gift box three to one on the morning line. That is your morning line favorite for trainer. John sadler. Joel resort area who had a monster day at Belmont, last Saturday is looking to add to that we gift box here in the Stephen foster. How'd you see that one at? Yeah. Looted sort of those California form on for. And I'm a I'm gonna back that a little bit here. I do think if is among the more likely winner for that's the favorite I'll try to beat them on top. I landed on Tom stay tot. Just think he has a real tactical advantage here. Yes, there's twelve horses in the race. But to my I the only real contenders for legitimate front end speed that can go the mound in eight their backs and times day tot. So I'll take the longer price on a horse who does have a couple of fast races on the page, including that Alysheba behind MacKenzie. So Tom's detente for me on time. But knowing that, I'm pretty narrow in both the met win and the floor to Lee. I am going to have thirst for life, runaway goes, then I'll cop hand an all my pick, five tickets. This is the. This is the reason why we tried to narrow elsewhere. If we have a strong opinion to get live to, to some of these moonshot, and I think all three of those have have a look that they could upset if they don't show up. All right, do one minute or less. The grade three regret follows the Stephen foster that is the final of the five consecutive graded stakes races mile at eighth for the Phillies the three year old Phillies on the turf. How'd you see that one? I think north Kathy holds a big handed eight two one s two horses in their heart legacy felt Laura both of whom he stopped on a little bit regrouped for here. Just really like how both of them. Splash some brilliant earlier in their career. Now, we're getting the right price to see if norm has at least one of them ready to fire for great. It's fake Stephen foster specials at brisk net dot com or twinspireScom. What's happening there tonight? Breath, net dot com slash derby as all your Churchill Downs reports. Great information from Gusta, Lonzo workout reports from Bruno and I'd be remiss those looking ahead to roll Ascott next week. Tons of great information from Kelly Riley on the international scene. So we don't let up after tonight. It's going to be a great run to the Breeders Cup over the next few months, guys. All right. I have to get to this break. But Ed I forgot to throw it a poll question at the top of the show. So I'm going to do it now. And I'm going to put you on the spot again. You don't know this is all right? But with Father's Day being tomorrow, you have three beautiful children with Father's Day tomorrow. I wanted I wanna do this. We'll ask HR in nation for all the dads out there. What is the best Father's Day gift, you have ever received the best bothers day gift, you've ever received you can go to HR in a Twitter to weigh in, in cast your vote or to comment on that, that question and then we'll try to pass those along later in the program. How about for you? The best. Father's Day gift you ever received. I would say Lori had each kid holds a letter dad. So d a d and then put him in a three picture frame and assist. I thought it was really thoughtful and it's something I can look at every day. And does that and it has all the kids in it, so that, that really is special to me? So I'll say that. And it's a good idea for anyone else out there. Looking for gift? You know, you have three kids or just hold one kid also let her. It was it was pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, if you only have one, you can do different poses, or whatever. But, you know, for us three kids, it was perfect. And I it's something I've had on my desk ever since beautiful. We'll happy Father's Day tomorrow, my friend, Frank, you. Appreciate it. Preciado de DeRosa brisk net dot com twin spires dot com with us here on. H. R N. Yeah. Go to our Twitter account and let us know the best Father's Day gift, you ever received a we'll, we'll try to read some of those as we move throughout the program here this morning, getting into our Alexis legends of the turf, brought to you every Saturday at this time by the Lexus store of Lexington on the corner of new circle and liberty here in Lexington. Kentucky will come back and visit with Al style junior talking about Tom's day taco going post-ward in tonight, Stephen foster, that's next right after your Lexus, legends of the turf, on June ninth nineteen fifty-six, the field, one postwar the running of the fifty thousand dollar Argonaut handicap at Hollywood park in the field, where language and farms porterhouse. Who had whipped his chief rival in this field? Swaps by head in the last previous meeting of the two in the Californian, the very speedy Bobby broke cut ho with a master craftsman, Johnny Longden in the irons. And of course, swaps would come off an injury as three year old to make an attempt at a third world record swaps had already notched world records for one six one sixteenth miles and a mile and seventy yards the Hollywood park had been, especially groomed to be as fast as the one armed paperhanger in a four room apartment with a two hour deadline. The tissue station was high amongst the patrons on this day for the import of a possible record breaking performance. Trying to emiss- Kenney said Plattling and openly that his or swaps, what lower citations world, Mark one thirty three and three four the flat mile record that stood since one thousand nine hundred forty nine as the horses broke from the starting gate. It was expected that the very speedy Bobby broke cuto with long in the saddle would go to the front to try to steal it. But Bill Schumer. Maker got swaps out of the box like rocket down along defense. He was not about to allow him sell to get shut up by the speed horses outside of them going into the turn swaps established a clear lead going into the clubhouse, turn shoemaker realize Longdon with resigned to playing the waiting game settling in just off the pace with Bobby Brooke Cotto Schumacher turned that strategy to his own advantage, while keeping lots of course. In reserve setting the early fractions, swaps head on open lead all the way down the backside while turning in a twenty two and three quarter. Forty five and one for the half and one zero eight and two for the first six panels as the field swung through the fire turn in the glistening, California sunlight, Longdon made his expected move with Bobby, bro KADO, and with a quick burst of speed, gut his mount set up, two shoemakers boot on the leader. The shoe went to the stick cracking the flank of swaps with a hard liquor swaps responded that we get move clear, the wreck cells worth owned four year old hell. Sway during the run down the lane, and all is we're now on the teletype, which fleshed one thirty three and one is he hit the wire, a new world record Bobby bre Cotto had been beaten by barely link in the supremely game effort and porterhouse and receive nine pounds from swaps was six lengths further back in third swap said, clocked, the last half mile on a most impressive forty eight flat. It was a third world record. He had chalked up and he was no uncertain terms to be regarded as one of the all time greats on the racetrack. He was blessed with class courage and a tremendous amount of ability, assurer fire recipe for greatness, you know, not all fast sources are great, but all great horses fest. Swaps was undeniably fast indeed. Many observers on the scene at Hollywood park on the June day in one thousand nine hundred fifty six felt swaps could have gone fester if he'd been pushed in the early part of the race. But it was breathtaking leaf. 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That's the baron puntive with you, in our Jimmy Johns, Lexington studios. John Dooley with the call of the tenacious at the fairgrounds back on December twenty second having a little fun with that. Call as Tom's day Todd draws off to win by three and a half lengths. He would come back and finish ninth in the Pegasus World Cup before running a bang-up second in the great L Sheba behind MacKenzie. He's back in action tonight at Churchill Downs in the grade two Stephen foster, and he is trained by our good friend L stall junior, who joins us now the horse racing radio network L, good morning, my friend happy, Stephen foster day. Thank you, appreciate y'all having the on on and beautiful day, so far, this morning, here Churchill Downs, and hopefully the weather hangs in there and the rest of the evening and everybody's looking forward to you can feel the energy around. Well to steal a line from John Dooley. Who DAT gonna beat tons day ta in the Stephen foster tonight. Right. I'm I'm all in. We're, we're happy to be here on a home. Racetrack and kinda really aren't. You know brought the weather up earlier become kind of sweating it a little bit. His home is a little bit better on dry race tracks at matter of fact, it's four months tackle, and dry race tracks and. And we just wanted to be that way to see me, so we're feeling good about everything. And we just want you get to this point, there's a whole lot of factors that come in that you can't control the trip. The weather surface, things like that, that you just hope that go your way. Well, you got this horse longtime ago he six years old now. I race. You know. Came in two thousand sixteen. You've just really taking your time with him all the way along the talk about the journey that you've had with this horse. Right. Well, you hear the, you know, the trader speak nagging injuries and things like that. This is this is the definition of a series of nagging injuries and had some ankle problems along the line. I mean, the your ex trainer Jude and your leg man. And if you come look at his legs there, Ken type no Bush, no heat. No, nothing. He just he just had like chip as a young horse and some this kind of bone bruising and just just things and six months here. Six months there, and that's poof here, yard six six year old horse and. We love this horse and we've known each just full of talent. And, and we're kind of amazed that here we are at eight six with you think there'd be some sort of, you know, maybe some sorta arthritic type stuff going on with him and whether there is or not he doesn't show it and he doesn't let us know about it because his racist. So we're very happy with this horse. We love him and he's a tough horse and he's just full of class. He's, he's he looks apart and everything is kind of he made from Alex Sheba to this race. With no hiccups. No anything. So that's good for comes they. That's good for almost any horse. But when you have when that you've had to turn out so many times, it really is a good thing. And I mean you look at his form and in the job, you've done with them. It's really sensational. It's a it's a tribute to, to what you do with all your horses. And how you take your time and you're never in a rush. And you never feel like you have to run them. You just you just do what's right for the horse. And I just wish you all good luck tonight because it's been a fantastic ride in a great job. Appreciate you know, gale Benson, and they in their team. They're you know, you're not gonna run out of money, but still not people. A lot of money don't have the patience. But they've just they've just done. Let us do whatever we felt was right by the horse and they'd have they bought that beautiful form over in the over your neck of the woods, and kind of I town to country. They are they Will Greenwood lodge and, and, you know, he's been some time over there with AB shown every time he's coming from there. He looks spectacular. So the whole group has just been patient, and he's the kind of horseshoe. You wanna really do everything for him because he, he just he just had type a horse. And, and I personally like older Orson of the, you know, obviously, look at I don't, I never run a horse, and derby, or the oaks, or I would like to. But I just, you know, I don't mind having a four or five six year old or so, I just I'm excited about the foster is, I would be about the, you know, the risen star the fair. Grounds for three year old. So we're glad to be here talking with L stall junior here on the horse racing radio network L. You bring up the name gale Benson, and I'm glad that you did her husband, Tom, of course, the two of them the owners of the New Orleans Saints New Orleans pelicans, and they've also been part of the horse racing industry now for several years in really involved in the sport. Well, Tom passed away in March of last year gal has continued on talk about her continued commitment to thoroughbred racing and what it's like now that, that Tom is no longer around and what it's like for gal. Well, Mr President knew he wasn't gonna live forever. He he got his family issues behind him before passed away. I'm remember the drama. It was all over the news. And he kinda got that taken care of. And he obviously bought that I think the thing that tells you their commitment vine that, that fabulous form over there in Lexington Ozzie. He knew he wasn't going to buy it. And you know, hang around. For ten more years, so that was investment in the future that Gail really joys going there. And they're they'll move mayor sand in the babies. And you know how they're like, you know, rabbits, ten one year then you've got twenty two next and thirty the next. So they're doing commercial stuff. And I think there for the long haul, and they're, they're playing it on all levels from the sales to the racetrack. Five to one of the morning line for tonight's grade two, Stephen foster L other than okay running faster than all the other horses. What's the key to victory for times? They taught tonight. Oh, I just think like I said, I think just pure just luck from here on out. I mean, we need the right trip. You know, they looks like there's some speed that could all change for a big horse. He jumps extremely wealth from the gate so he'll play himself somewhere forwardly guessing from the nine I guess, even he can hopefully work over just a little bit. And and, you know, just shown and the horse and there's not much I can say or do besides, you know, good luck in and hopefully things go our way. That's, that's what it takes to win. These type of racists, such good tactical speed, and he can kind of be forwardly placed or you can sit just off the pace that that's going to give you some confidence going in because no matter what happens in the ratio on should be able to find a good spot for him. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's he doesn't he doesn't. He might have gotten the bottle of hair in his last race. He's little fresh on this time with him. But in general, he does exactly what the rider wanted all time. So. He doesn't in the mornings also. So he's got we have luxury of that, or Sean has luxury of that. And just like whatever happens happens. Now you have kind of made a Mark in the sport, I guess, by winning the Breeders Cup Classic in up settings and yada, with blame back in two thousand ten beneath those same twin spires that you'll be racing under tonight. Just kind of curious, do you ever. Go back and reminiscent and watch that race even today. Not really not really every once in a while you see it on TV all the time. So you see that blame blames in yada last. Whatever it is. That's enough as far as, as far as like YouTube or we've got some base in Amy's Imerman citizen on some edited, I should say, you know, DVD's back back then, and you could just hop in any watch the whole thing about, you know, twenty twenty something minutes, but not not not too often. But I mean it's not like not, like, no think about all the time and talk about all the time. It's just it just we're just moving on in his. I mean he's got horses on the racetrack. Every time I see a blame us, you know, shut everything down and watch it ruin you know, things like that. So but if you don't heart sets the most important thing, how much blame memorabilia, do you have around your house? You know, not as much as you think I'm not a big memorabilia, but, you know, I've got my wife, Nicole, and my kids are, you know, they're into all kinds of stuff. So we've got you know, we've got lame hats like a lot of people have them. There's a special reserve hat that Bernie SAM's made with Z with the, you know, the stop the red line going across it like they do. There's limited edition of. We've got a couple of in somebody know, some shadowboxing stuff with the shadow box stuff. And yeah, there's a few things you know, the most of the stuff that means the most is, is some stuff that was signed by gas. You know. So we've got we've got some, you know, photos and some stuff that Garrick signed, I guess, maybe I signed to, but not not compared to Garrett that doesn't match up at all. But so that's that's important all of us because we were, we were pretty close those last few years. And, and, you know you by knows where that went. Care. It was such a great guy in that was that was a race that I always think about when I go to church downs when I head up to our location, which is right on the wire. And in it, always, I just am always reminded that race. I'll never forget it. It was such a dramatic race. It was in the dark. It was it was just really, really cool. And I was very happy for you that day and they cashed a nice ticket to which is always important. Oh, no, no doubt the mutuals were always good on playing because he was in with quality road, and in yada. And it was always was always some monster in there, that he took the backseat too, so. Yeah, it was it was a it was good for the mutual. There's no doubt about that. Well, L? Listen, appreciate the visit here this morning, all the best with TOMS day data tonight in the Stephen foster will remind people one more time before I let you go that our coverage comes up from eight to ten on Sirius XM one fifty-six. And of course, streaming worldwide on our website horse racing radio dot net. Go get it done my friend. Okay, guys, we're we're we're all in. So we can't can't wait. Thank you. All right. L stall like all of our guests who appear on the program is going to receive a gift courtesy of embraced the race. It is the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle where would you love and embrace your passion at embrace the race dot com? Won't be long. We'll be back up in Saratoga. The home of embraced the race. Get a chance to visit with our good friend. Mike dean zero is lovely wife. Jill go. See the new store there on Broadway, say new store. Gosh, I guess it's been open for more than a year now. Yeah, I still think of it as a new store kind of new. If you haven't been there you gotta go. Great stuff beautiful merchandise. It's well worth visit. When isn't Saratoga ones that open next week? Unbelievable. Trying to get my arms in my head wrapped around that it's coming faster than you think. So, yeah, we'll be there every single Saturday throughout the meat to bring you. Our Saturdays at Saratoga broadcast series. Live coverage of the major stakes races every Saturday throughout the meat, you can how to over to our website, horse racing radio dot net, and check out the podcast or check out the podcast. Check out our schedule, you can listen to podcast, too, but you can see our entire broadcast schedule. And that Saturdays at Saratoga schedule. We're going to be a fun meet. Yeah. Definitely an extra week this year. That screwed a lot of people up with the reservations and stuff. But it's always nice to have an extra week at the spa. All right. Busy second half of the show coming up from nine to ten we're going to focus on talking with David McCaffrey, talking about the Illinois gambling Bill, that is awaiting a signature from the governor. He is David the executive director of the Illinois, thoroughbred horsemen's association, then we're going to visit with Eric Camelback who is the CEO of the national HP. They have been front and center at the conversation about horse racing. Safety and medication issues. We'll get a chance to visit with Eric nine thirty eastern time all of that still the come plus our industry starved the week, which is up next. This is the forum on the horse racing radio network. Your home for the Breeders Cup world championships. Attention Kentucky breads, big plans to race at the upcoming Kentucky downs. 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Oh, she's pulling away pulling away from comfort dancing bullpens ISM and the others midnight bees leave. No doubt today. G one the VIPs in hand. Was come dancing is a menace Cape. Clones. Yeah. Midnight, do absolutely leaving. No doubt last Saturday on that Belmont. Undercard. She dominated the grade one Ogden Phipps under Mike Smith for our good friend Jeff bloom and his bloom racing stable and Jeff was our industry star of the week last Saturday. So we thought we'd pass along an update and let you know that Jeff did indeed get that victory last Saturday with midnight zoo, and it leads us to a bit of a discussion JT as to which Philly is the best in the country. Is it now midnight zoo who was paired up back to back grade one victories, or may it be somebody else? Like we're gonna see tonight in the Stephen excuse me, the floor to Lee on the Stephen foster undercard, maybe somebody like Elat, or she's a Julie or even blue prize even blue prize blue price. Pretty nice elites. Okay. She's coming out of form. She hasn't been running up to her usual. She's a very Corky Philly. She could win tonight. She's a jewelry ran great last time. She has to carry a lot of weight against the other two tonight. But I, I don't think we can ignore Montemar girl. I mean I don't know where she is. Or what she's doing shows up again? You can say that about night, actor you can say that about us right now. She's a non factor in my opinion. She hasn't she hasn't raised yet. I know best she's still good. And she's, she's supposedly, coming back doesn't retired. So I mean in my mind she's the best filly midnight could never really get buyer. Last year. But that was last year. He beat her once. Right. Well, it was Q wasn't bright right by Deke X amount of weight, girl, cheated. Get the cute unless you do something illegal. Okay. Well, that's. We'll give you. One what six right now? No being completely unbiased here. You're right mind. I'm white girl is obviously all world, right? I mean that's, that's an understatement. We know that she is really, really good. I just I don't see any no. Here you yard just pulled her up on echo base. There are no workouts listed from girl at all. So right now, she's not even in this discussion, the top the top Villier mayor in the country, she's not even there. And I think that's, that's fair. I mean of the Phillies that have performed this year, you'd have to say that sues is the top, I think, I think she's the top, and everybody else has to measure up now. Blue prize ran against Manuel girl and got be the length and a half, but I don't see. She also in the same race midnight be soobee their head, so they're pretty close. Yeah. Yeah. Midnight beat Elat each of the last two times like drum like a drum. I mean, that's my thing about a late tonight is, she's got to prove that she can be Elat again. Right. Right. And you know, this is an important race for her. It is. Because Anthony and I talked about yesterday on bet radio and a late, you know, was kind of quirky. You remember she was like a buzz horse. She broke her main by fourteen or something. And then a couple races later. She was eased, you know, because she was being Elat being quirky, and she's kind of gotten back to the quirkiness action, so I don't know what she what she's going to do or how she's going to run. Her blow out was nice. So we'll see what happens, but. You know, it's, it's an interesting division, the winner of tonight's Florida Lee will earn an automatic berth into the Breeders Cup distaff, the winner of the Stephen foster will be automatically qualified for a spot in the starting gate of the Breeders Cup Classic. And again, a field the twelve going in the Stephen foster, our coverage eight to ten you can join Tom Leach and the pontiff of the pick for Jude feld, live from Churchill Downs, they will bring you that coverage on Sirius XM one fifty six and you can stream us anywhere. You might be in the world at horse racing radio dot net throughout the poll question this morning, a little bit late. But I did get to it. Not so much of a poll question, but just a question looking for your comments. What is the best Father's Day gift? You have ever received with Father's Day, coming up tomorrow, thought it would be kind of fun to have people weigh in on that. How about for you? What do you think? Well, you know, my, my daughter, Casey, she's great at picking out cards, and she almost is one hundred percent making me cry and fath. Thursday. She's the Mike pen of. See if I can make Eric ham better. Well, I'll ask the Father's Day in question talking about the kids. Yeah. There you go. But I there was a, Tommy Bahama shirt that I really, really wanted. And it was rather expensive. And somebody had told the kids, probably Gretchen that I wanted that and it showed up and that was that was very nice. I, I was really happy about that. Well, so far we have received zero comments to the poll question at H R N on Twitter. Come on dad's. Let's hear from you. I guess maybe nobody's getting anything for Father's Day. Kim kids debts up very game obvious lost. You. Right. They just audit. You money three. It's the best thing you can ever do has all I'm told. So I'm told I'm going to go ahead and get to a quick break. Actually, let's do this. Let's pause ten seconds for station identification, then we'll get set for the second half of the show. We'll be joined by David McCaffrey who was the executive director of the Illinois, thoroughbred horseman association that is next right after this ten second station. ID on the horse racing radio network. From the rail to your radio. This is the horse racing radio network taking the lead you lately runs after her cookie dough unstirred point of under and you lately, don't to the wire point on her put up like I'd Susan enter putt writing hobby Castawano. There's ago below keeps on going river going on the inside kinda put for out five zero but bolo something left for the final sixteen then it's going to be below comes to coast in the shoemaker mile for Jimmy Johns of Lexington studios. Welcome to the equine forum presented by Woodbine entertainment, this written, super Tebbit, Nick, and Nick super tablet, Mr. Ritz they hit the way hit up between the two super temporal reasoning hiccup designs. In the eclipse horn. Hold on here comes penalty curve on the outside. She put on side. Lower closing to channel bigger strikes. Shuttle maker wins out a war. Now here's Mike and Jud feld. Welcome back hour. Number two, the equipment for presented by Woodbine entertainment here in the month of June. Happy to have you back with us might pen of Barron of the backstretch, Jude feld punt of the pick four and our Jimmy Johns of Lexington broadcast duty don't forget. If you missed any portion of the first half of the program, our interview with Ed DeRosa from Bris and twin spires and our interview with trainer L stall junior, all you have to do is head back to our website horse racing radio dot net. You can listen to the podcast of this show at all of our programs at your leisure. That's horse racing radio dot net. And JT I noticed as we were in that segue segment into the second half of the program that after we gave a little recap of last week's industry star of the week, presented by Stuart Morris that I was negligent in reading Stewart's commercial for him. So let me go ahead and do that real quick. We're going to get the David McCaffrey here to kick off hour, two in just a second. But you wonder. Remember with the yearling sales season, coming up that Stewart Morris doesn't need offer a boutique full-service bloodstock operation, and he always likes to take his owners clients and his team, his success is because of you when he always remembers that with multiple stakes sources over the past three years, including Henley's joy, our brain trust, and Mel Agasi Stewart Morris is your source for success at the highest levels, and I can promise you, when you stop by his consignment that you're gonna love what you see. So stop by see Stewart Morris at any of the major Ewing sales coming up throughout the country, face Tipton Keeneland wherever it might be Stewart. We'll have his shingle hung outside the barn in he'll be able to help you out. Yeah. He's a fine horseman in a good guy. You're going to like, all right? Big news coming out of Illinois over the course of the past week, we can half or so. There is a new gambling Bill that has been crafted and is just awaiting the signature from the governor David McCaffrey is the executive director of the Illinois, thoroughbred horsemen's association. That is welcome news. To not only the racetracks throughout Illinois. But the breeders as well, and David is kind enough to spend a little time with us here this morning on the form. David, good morning. Thanks for taking the time. Good morning, gentlemen. Thanks for having me. Congratulations. On your success with this, this new gambling Bill. Thank you very much. It's, it's like winning in a way. It's like winning the Kentucky Derby. Yeah. It's huge. It's huge. Not just as I mentioned to the race track. But to the breeders to the industry as a whole in the state of Illinois take us through some of the parameters of what's been laid out. Well, you're absolutely right. It's a if it's gonna take a little while. I'm trying to tamp down the instant gratification, that people think that we might get from this because it's going to take a little while to get something going first thing that you referenced is, we need the signature of the governor. However, he's been publicly stated that, that he's on board and it's not a matter of if it's when, and we expected signature in the next. Somewhere in the next two to three to four weeks. So that's the first thing that needs to happen. Then there's a process that requires the racetracks to get licensed as essentially casino operators. That is anyone's guess how long that takes it somewhere between three to six months is the best the best, I can tell. And then they need to build some sort of either temporary facility or build a permanent facility at which all of these machines and table games and sports betting outlets will go. So I'm thinking that. Somewhere in the neighborhood of nine to fifteen months. We should start getting some of the benefits, some of the direct economic benefits from, from the Bill, but certainly as you referenced this provides the just the just the passage of the Bill and the governor being so open to sign it, it provides a hope and Illinois, horsemen provides them the chance to dream. So I think that dreaming and hope are two cornerstones of horse racing. So it's a it's a nice position to be in. We're certainly in a better position today than we were a week or two ago because there were no hopes and dreams couple of weeks ago. I mean, that, that's a sensually the way Illinois racing isn't. It's. It was it was terrible. I mean you have a facility like Arlington international racecourse, which is my favourite race track. And one of the best race tracks in the country by far in in such love for that track from, from the from the owner and the operator and it was just a shame. I never could understand why there weren't more people there. You know why more horsemen didn't support it, but the person have gotten very low. It's hard to get people to race for small purses, because it's so expensive to keep racehorse in training. And this is a real shot in the arm for the whole sport in Illinois. And that's going to make it better for everybody in the country. You said a mouthful. Yeah. It's, it's so true. You know, David when you and I spoke, I guess, was Thursday, and I asked you to come on the program you just to kind of lay out exactly how bad things have gotten in the state of Illinois with that racing program and the breeding program youth route a very telling statistic about the number of foles in Illinois this past year. Walk us through some of those statistics that people understand how far things have kind of gone downhill in the state and why this is so important. Yeah. To say the breeding industry in Illinois has has been ravaged would be would be an understatement. Just in the last ten years, ten years ago, but going back to two thousand nine there were seven hundred eighty two Eleanor thoroughbred foals. Last year we were down to one hundred eighty seven and this year through June first essentially the season's over, there are one hundred and forty seven on the ground. So just in ten years, seven hundred eighty two to one hundred and forty seven and if you combine harness racing, which is a big thing in Illinois. It used to be at least those numbers are even worse we go back to two thousand and eight there were twenty four hundred thoroughbred and harness horses, twenty four hundred and one thoroughbred and harness foles born and last year that number that combined number was down to three hundred and thirty four. I did the math on it. It's an eighty six percent drop in the number of folds born in the two breeds. And, and each each one is separated the same way. So it's, it's just it's beyond belief. What's happened to it? And. One of the things we'll get into the Bill here in a minute of the specifics of, but one of the specifics of the Bill is that breeders awards are increased from, from a base rate of eleven percent. Now that, that readers are getting on for a second and third place finishes and that will be increased twenty percent. So it'll be a double victory for breeders. Because a the person's will go up and be the amount the percentage that they get award wise will increase, so because I mean, it'll naturally go up because the percentage will go up, but also because the person's will be higher the amount. The factor that you're multiplying by the person will increase, so it's, it's a double header win. And I'm hoping that it resurrects the breeding program because like those numbers point out, it's, it's an shambles. You know, Illinois said such a great history in, in thoroughbred, sports and. It's a shame to see it go away. So this, this really can can rejuvenate, the whole industry. Maybe get some more people investing money in Illinois breads, and that type of thing, what can the horsemen in the breeders expect to gain out of this at the end of your fifteen month projection? Yeah. It's a great question. There are three main parts to the Bill, that, that the horsemen focused on when we when we tried to negotiate the Bill with the race tracks, and then we took that negotiation to Springfield. Sadly, we did this ten years ago, and we've been trying this long and you know, it actually passed the house and the Senate twice in two thousand eleven and two thousand twelve and then it was vetoed by the governor, then it would pass the house, you know, one year, and then it would pass the Senate the next year, and I wouldn't pass the other the other chamber, and it was just a an unmitigated disaster. Trying to get this thing passed. But now it has and the governor's going to sign it. So the first thing that we tried to ensure was a good amount of, of money going from the machines and table games to the person count. And we are at a the, the lowest number. It's a sliding scale going up the better, the, the machines, do the better, the rations Racine does. But the lowest number we get the lowest number of the purse account will get from the machines is twelve point seven five percent, and that probably means nothing to, to most people. However, when you put it into perspective of other states, I did a quick synopsis here of some other states over the last few days. Maryland in comparison gets a somewhere in the neighborhood of six percent from from their machines, located at the casinos outside of the racetrack's, New York's getting about seven point five percent, and Delaware is getting nine point six percent. And again, the rate in Illinois will be the base rate in Illinois will be twelve point seven five and, and if the projections play out like we hope they will will be somewhere in the neighborhood of a blended rate of fourteen or fifteen percent, which is terrific. We don't get quite as many machines as a place like New York, we get twelve hundred positions at each track. However, when you consider the rate of being so good. I think that it will will mean a lot, the other thing that it's the other thing that the Bill does one of the other three parts of the Bill does, is it eliminates recapture and that's like a four letter word in. And I'm sure it means nothing to your listeners nationally, but it's a provision that was passed in nineteen ninety four and it allowed racetracks to the dip into the person count and take from the person count money that had otherwise been earned for the person count. And it's a big number this year alone. It's seven and a half million dollars between Arlington and Hawthorn. And we're going to we're going to generate about thirty million dollars this year for persons, so we generate thirty million dollars. But there's like this huge asterisk in the form of recapture, and after it's all sudden done that thirty million dollars turns into about twenty two million dollars recaptured going forward in the year, subsequent to the machines starting to operate slot machines and table games recaptured goes away. So it's a win in terms of the money that is generated for the person can't will stay in the persecute. So. If things stay the same, we can expect the hopefully around thirty million dollars to be generated for the persecution just in handle alone. Okay. Just in horse racing related stuff alone. And that money will stay there. So that's a big big thing. And then the third part of the, the Bill that were very proud of and, and happy about, is that we negotiated schedule of racing guarantees minimum racing guarantees, and one of the things that happens sadly, as, as Ray Fino's filter through states is. A what do you want to call it a notion by racetracks that, that sometimes less racing is better? These these this Bill establishes minimums that racetracks have to race provided that they had the horses minimum number of days that racetracks have to race in order to keep their their positions. And those those days increase in the three years, subsequent to the Bill passing and hopefully, the, the game plan is in year, three and four we wanna be back to one hundred and seventy four racing dates in Illinois, which puts us back to the two thousand twelve and thirteen levels, which which would be, you know, it would be a rebirth inning of the whole industry. You know. So, so you've got the end of recapture, which will keep what we generate. In handle in the personnel. You've got added money coming in at a base rate of twelve point seven five percent. Which is terrific rate, comparatively nationally. And then you've got a minimum number of days that are guaranteed to be offered to Illinois horsemen and those three things I you know, if you want a specific number. I'm hoping in year, two three and four as things go up and full-throttle that were racing for somewhere in the neighborhood of forty to fifty million dollars and over one hundred and seventy days, and it'll be a great. It'll be a great thing to put it in the comparison. We're racing after recapture for this year for about twenty one million dollars. David McCaffrey, the executive director of the Illinois, thoroughbred horsemen's association doing a tremendous job, spelling out the details of the new gambling Bill, that is awaiting governor Pritzker signature there in the state David win is the governor expected to sign the Bill. Some he has. He has six legally. He has sixty days after he receives the after ever receives it he received it about a week ago. So he's got technically about fifty days left. But we're expecting him to sign the in the next two to three weeks. And once that is, in place, each of the three, racetracks in the state will have their own Racine o- on site. Is that right? Well, they'll have the capability of getting it you'll have to apply for the license and that takes three to six months where we're thinking. And then they have to they have to build some sort of civility and install the machines and install the tables, and all of that stuff. So, but yes, the answer to your question is, yes, you, it'd be a huge boost in the arm to everyone throughout the state is David just alluded to, and David will caution people again, this is not necessarily a quick fix. It's not going to be an overnight fix it's going to take some time for things to work through the system. But once it is up and running. And that time has been granted this could this could conceivably conceivably be the thing that saves racing in the state of Illinois. No doubt about it. I mean if you look at states, I mean, this, there's hardly a state that you could give me that has this sort of Racine. Oh, type of existence that, that didn't succeed and didn't flourish right off the bat. I mean, look at Indiana and look at Pennsylvania. And Ohio, just been the most recent one these these the breeding programs come back very quickly. Now that takes two three or four years to get going also. But, but yes, the model is in place for this to be successful. And we expect it to expect it to Illinois, also well, congratulations to you for doing such a great job. And, and it sounds like you've you've dotted all the is and cross the t's. And hopefully there's a sense of urgency in Illinois to get this underway and expedite matters as soon as possible. Thank you very much. It was it was quite a process. And one of the one of the cool little stories that happened was provider for worse when you've been at this for so long we've developed relationships with a bunch of legislators, and we've, I've been surprised actually by the number of legislators that have called us even to that voted against the Bill, but they work with us in on some other issues have called us to say congratulations. And you know, it's you guys stuck it out and kept trying. And, and, you know, hopefully, you'll get rewarded for your efforts and this will be successful, like it has been other states. Yeah. Well, David again, I'll echo echoed, Jude sentiments in Pessoa, my congratulations, as well, well done by the u in Mike Campbell in the entire team there at the Illinois thoroughbred horse, MS association, keep up the great work like all of our guests who appear on the program. We're going to send you a gift courtesy of embrace. The race. It is the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. And of course, everyone can wear what they love by going to embrace the race dot com. David appreciate the visit thanks for taking the time and keep it rolling. We'll we'll await that signature from the governor. Thanks, john. Thanks for having me on. Well done David McCaffrey here, H R help. I mean you heard him lay out some of those statistics with the full count and things like that. And the amount of money that the racing four now where it could be. What's this is all in place? I mean, this is this is a game changer. Oh, no question about it. I mean the state of thoroughbred racing and illinois's been in a bad way for quite a while. And the person's Arlington have been down, and they really needed some help shot in the arm to get things going. And of course, this is this is going to be fantastic for a lot of people that are involved in the sport. And loves the sport. And, and it's going to make Arlington. 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You know, he was on the show would be the, the quite forum here last Saturday from Belmont to talk about that race. And Tom join me for about twelve or fifteen minutes or so. And there was what looked to be couldn't help was a soccer field. Almost more like a football field that had been chucked out in the infield at, at Belmont Park, and so I was kinda waiting. There was nothing going on out there. I guess if there was maybe time could have done a little play by play for, you know, probably a soccer match. Oh, I, you know, this'll be the first broadcast that Tom who's been part of our coverage team for the past few years, be the first one that he actually hosts here 'cause he's typically down below trek side in the winter circle. And I am so excited to, to get him into the mix here and listened to him, do his thing so good with the play by play that he does for UK football and for basketball. This is a little different stick, but he'll be so good. I can't wait to hear it tonight. Well, he's, he's a talented guy, you know, he loves horse racing. So that's a big plus. We work well together. That's a big plus and I've been I've been looking forward to it for a couple of weeks. I did a really nice promo for the show. Yeah. He's been to yourself. If it was brilliant. I do nothing. But broken work, actually God for for those of you haven't noticed. Hold on. Wait, we gotta expand the door. See if you can get out the door when he when he leaves here. No brag. All right. Well, Eric Camelback is here talking about doing brilliant, work. He has been hard at it as the CEO of the national HP PA and returning from Washington DC, where he spent an awful lot of time these days and Eric is now joining us in our studio here in Lexington. Eric, good morning, my friend, welcome home. Good morning guys. I appreciate the opportunity to be here and looks great. Every you guys look great. Glad to be here and it's beautiful day. Is going to be amazing tonight. So I'm excited. You, you said that you were going to have to play hurt this morning, a little bit under the weather today after that trip to DC. And I think a lot of people may feel that way after they come back with dealing with politicians that these days. But one thing you told me you said, you know, I really try not to talk that much. I said, well, this is gonna be great. Yeah. Great for the radio to have luckily, though, at least it is still radio. And you get my voice on my face. Yeah. So, so many different issues facing the sport now medication equine safety. Where do we start lay out where we are currently I guess where we've come from, and where we are currently with some different things so that people can kind of have an understanding of what's going on behind the scenes. Absolutely. I mean, obviously, I think for the most part, I want to make sure that, that everyone realizes that the HP are members myself, we are as concerned as any by what has happened at Santa Anita has brought this negative spotlight upon us all. I do think that the industry has made tremendous strides. Whether it'd be looking towards the in TR a safety alliance and the programs that have been initiated through them. I looked at. The Nope national uniform medication program. What you have now with ninety four percent of the pair mutual handle in the United States is under the controlled their Buick substance list. The one thing that people continue to say is not uniform is medication. And I just would like to remind folks, the RMT see the racing medication testing consortium, and the AARP instituted. Nope. National uniform medication program in three thousand thirteen. And I know that's a lot of acronyms. But I'm cognizant of or at least I've been forced to be cognizant of the fact that we throw around a lot of acronyms and even into into the industry, people aren't aware of that. But please remember that the program that they adopted really started in two thousand thirteen and what we are doing and moving forth. In uniformity, I think has been an amazing stride. I'm not gonna sit here and lie and say every jurisdiction is the same. But when you do look at the numbers program or NTC you have twelve jurisdictions that are one hundred percent compliant under. Nope. Something that the mainstream media continues to give credit to you have twenty of the thirty four para mutual jurisdictions that are currently active also have three of the four, why only three of four comes back to funding and funding is one of the biggest problems that many and I say the vast majority of the industry have had and voiced with the current legislation that's being proposed in DC. I understand the premise, I understand people want uniformity. But when you look at HR seventeen fifty four and then the recently introduced Senate Bill eighteen twenty the economics, don't add up. Jude said it earlier this morning, I think racing's going to always survive, but how do we look at? How do we picture racing? Five ten fifteen years from now, do we want to be like the international markets and it'd be a club and it'd be a sport recently Joe drape in an article made comment? And I'm taking a piece of his of his article quote, you know, it was the sport at king's for the reason they did it as as it as a sportsman. They're not trying to live off the personal money, but that dynamic has changed. So what does that saying that's saying that the people who are pushing this Bill, the leadership at the jockey club, their partners and issue and, and many and some others, I would say continue to push this Bill and now the Senate introduce Bill to ultimately change the economic dynamic of the industry. So, yes. Jud racing is going to be around racing will survive. But will it be at thirty six billion dollar economic impact? No, but apparently, those who are pushing it, they don't care if it's an industry anymore. They just want their sport of kings back. Okay. So mentioned the Bill and there are people tune in. I'm sure that have no idea what we're referencing when we reference, the Bill and some of the things that are in that Bill and what the Bill is supposed to accomplish. So kind of lay out the details of that for mere. Absolutely. So the, the Bill in its first ration- was thirty eighty four and that was to congress back, and it was thoroughbred Centric in may of two thousand seventeen they introduced a Bill twenty six fifty one and that Bill became the horse racing integrity, act, and for the first time of the several iterations of the Bill, that actually included all breeds, I would say, major berate racing breeds. So now you had the standard breads. Now, you have the quarter horses also wrapped into that. And then just this year, it was introduced as twenty I'm sorry, seventeen fifty four, so that's the house, Bill. The Bill end its goal while I would say most everybody is in favour of that's uniformity. But how do they create uniformity in this Bill? This Bill duplicates a system that we already have in the United States. Now that system is state run every governor in the thirty four jurisdictions that it's legal selects racing commission and that commission governs through the rules of the. The association of racing. Commissioners, internationally up. But what concerns we have continued to voice really in the three main interational of the Bill focus, mainly in my opinion around the economics, or I should say, the lack of economic definitions within the Bill the other part, that's very concerning to us is the Bill sets up an entirely new group called Hotta horse racing anti-doping agency. I'm certain a group that most people are aware of his use Sada, the United States, anti-doping agency, which does testing on the Olympics, which is federally funded through Sada, and they do some what I would call. Minor professional sports. Do not do the NFL. They do not do MLB or NBA. But this group is put in charge with a board of seven members of their own, including their CEO. And then they pick six additional now. What's questionable about about those six? The conflict of interest clause that you see very, very detailed and spelled out within the Bill. Now, it actually defines that you cannot be current stakeholder and beyond this, this committee. This, this new Hotta board. That's not the end of the world commissions are independent. There are sometimes commissioners that are selected that ultimately get get put on or put on racing commission. But when you look at the way commissions are set up now and through the model rules, the stakeholders have have input into what is model rule shaping under the so this board is completely independent, not elected, which, again is a problem for many HP members. Because again, we're the we are the horsemen's group, and we are elected, none of these other acronyms that you have out there running a democratic fashion. You don't pay dues to be an HP member. So with this independent board. That's put in charge. You're now going to answer to the Federal Trade Commission. A lot of us kind of scratch your head. I've met with the Federal Trade Commission representatives on two different occasions now, and certainly, if you read the mission statement of the Federal Trade Commission. It is all about not monopolizing an industry. And that's exactly what this Bill does. So let me interrupt you for just a second. So if the members of the board of Hotta is saying, Croatia, if the members of the board are not elected, and they're appointed correct. Who appoints the hot the USDA? I'm sorry, the USA, not the department of agriculture, but use Sada appoints the members. And that's how the board is set up. Okay. So horse racing is completely out of that decision making process by my interpretation. Yes, essentially, the I will preface and say that the Bill certainly outline is the. Ability to have committees with stakeholders, so but again, there is no Representative that is put in place on that board that is chosen by the stakeholders at point. Okay. Eric, Camelback he is the CEO of the national HP. He is with us in our Jimmy Johns, Lexington studios here this morning, laying out the details of what's happening on the legislative side of things in Washington. And if you can't tell there's an awful lot involved with this situation, a lot of different elements involved in a lot of different ways that, that you can break this down, and Eric, you're doing a great job of spelling things out for people, so from the HP perspective, you talked about some of the things in and of course, it's no secret that the HP the jockey club are at odds quite often about this issue that you look at it is coming to it from one angle. They come at it from different angle. Is there any opportunity to find common ground? For the good of the industry from their side in from your set. Absolutely. I think there is. But I want to give one analogy that that comes back to what I often say as the majority, so you hear quite frequently now this notion, everybody get in a room and locked the door until we come out with a solution. So I'm going to basically tell you, as I told the Kentucky third but farm managers club few weeks back. That's happened. And the reality is in December of two thousand sixteen the their president. Ed Martin who again opposes the legislation that we've been dealing with. They hosted it December two thousand sorry sixteen at the at the Omni in Arizona, and I would say anecdotally, there were seventy people in the room but at the end of the day without a head count. Every breed what's there, every veterinary organised leadership that Neri leadership was there. And there was one group that wanted to move this federal Bill one group out of the entire section and that was the leadership of the jockey club. And so my, my point of reference is really just to say win does majority not rule anymore. And I think again, if you just look at what we see in the opposition, it's not an opposition to uniformity, the reality is, it's not even an opposition to a governing body. It's an opposite. Position to an unfair representation underneath the federal government, which by the way, there's no proof that we need federal intervention that to me says it all and then to look very specifically at another analogy that we're continuing to look at is my friends sit Fernando wrote an amazing article that outline is a point that we have been referencing all along, this Bill is very likely unconstitutional, period. If you look at pass by you look at the professional amateur sports Protection Act and it being repealed by the supreme court. Why? Because it was telling the states what to do. That's exactly what HR currently seventeen fifty four. And now Senate Bill eighteen twenty are doing so I see if enacted there's going to be lawsuit after lawsuit and where does that get us that gets us more in the hole. And puts us through a Latino. This exercise that really, we don't need to go down, what we need to be doing is an I invite anybody to go to lobby dot gov and start looking at how much money is spent on lobbyists in DC, the number is shocking, Mike. It's actually shocking, when you think if we want to improve the breed, what could we do some extra money? Oh, I don't know. Why don't we put up some grant funding for those commissions like I referenced so that they could get a third party that nearing to do Lasix? I don't know why don't we pay for scoping of every horse. That comes off the racetrack and actually start studying iae, ph instead of trying to say Lasix is the end all to Beal, you know, those are the kind of things that we need to be spending money on, we have a process in place right now that we could walk over to the department of agriculture. Culture, look to the envious L who basically runs the uniform ity of laboratories for every species, but uh this and develop uniformity of the laboratories, I know I've talked to several people and I continued to explain that. What I think the problem is in our lack of uniformity boils down to laboratory non uniformity. And why is that because they don't have a standard that's been set for them to stop at. In other words, they screening limit or a threshold. And so ultimately, if we had an opportunity to get all of the labs on the same page which can be done through the I think you would see uniform across the board. All right. Hold that thought visiting with Eric Camelback who is the CEO of the national HP when we come back, Eric, I'm going to ask you, if you're the Commissioner of horse racing provide me with the solution that in your opinion you. Feel would work to get everybody on the same page. We'll do that when we come back, this equality forum on the horse racing radio network. Your home for the Breeders Cup. Adena springs stallion point of entry entry scores a five times, great one winter viewed by many to be the air to diner borders, global legacy and here come who's running today like the first horse since the to win the New York terp triple crown accomplishing the feat by a combined nine links and point of entry will go to the Breeders Cup on a five race winning streak ailing from a remarkable family with this. I four day, great one winners or great one producers point of entry is your entry point to the Kentucky Derby in front of. 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Now, we have about six minutes or so, left for we have to get to our final break, so Eric, I'm going to ask you. I said this before the break, but we don't have a Commissioner, and in an ideal world. I guess that would be the, the logical solution. But. We'll get your thoughts on that here in a second. But if you're the Commissioner force racing or you're in charge and you could have the power to make all of the different decisions. How would you approach uniformity and what would be the proper play to get everybody on the same page? Will that's a great question might thank you. So there's a lot of that's a multi to'real question. Let's that's great word right now. But I would I just address the word Commissioner because there are a lot of folks in the industry that, that looked to wear or how a commission can be developed, and they often compare it to the NFL, or the NBA, and I would just like to remind people the limited number of teams slash owners in the NFL and the NBA when you look at the NFL and they have thirty two owners or owner groups. With one vote makes it a little easier to have one person represent the entire group. We'd have thirty thirty five owners on one day one race card. So that makes it almost impossible in my opinion to, to develop a true singular commission and Commissioner for horse racing. And again when you truly look at the state programs and you have executive directors of the commissions. We have a great one here and Mark, you'll foil, ultimately every state is one hundred percent uniform and that, that says something in so moving from state to state while I think a commission or a Commissioner makes some sense when you think about it in the thirty thousand foot view. I always say Frank Stronach always gave us ideas on that thirty thousand foot view. But I'm the guy on the ground at the one foot that has put it into. Play. And that's a difficult ask logistics alone having said that I think that and I have proposed and I've talked to some congressmen about that, and even congress when women now in from California. And I mentioned it briefly. But when you look at the department of agriculture, the United States Department of agriculture and you look at the what we have in place now and you look at the different councils that they have for the different species other than equine. I think it's very logical that there is a, there is a way to develop and I kind of throughout envious l just a second ago, and, again, an acronym that I would say ninety percent of you may not realize but that's the national veterinary services laboratory right now in the USDA, the only two equine testing that they monitor very closely on a stringent basis pair, plas- most this and EA so Coggins testing, but it doesn't mean that they can't expand that into other medications, and ultimately, what I've written is perspectives that could possibly look at, and I would say through. Even through a federal Bill if necessary you set up the racing commissions and then under the USDA in envious L you've set up and I've set up process to which those factors and uniformity for medication and testing can be implemented. I've even gone so far as to develop a check off system, a true check off system that would be mandated, and it's not just breeders and owners that are paying for it. Everybody that touches the racehorse from owners breeders eighty ws track anybody in everybody, if you want to pay for horse racing integrity, then you're going to have to pay to play. And so, I think that's the realism and ultimately, you know, in again in, in my in my world, which I think, very much like a whiteboard, I've set up a horse racing assembly of representatives and. In that you basically have the commissions that are your vote. So now we're back to thirty four in the represented representatives from those commissions, then can get input from stakeholders within their commission, and they have then go I should say then they have the right to vote for that jurisdiction. So I think it's very possible. It's a little bit out of the box. Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't still need federal implementation to get set forth, but I think if we continue to look at veterinary leadership and the commissions that we have now and your true horsemen's Representative it's feasible, he's Eric Hammill back, the CEO of the national HP Erica, believe it or not. You finish. We've got one minute left, or if I have to get to the break. So I'm going to throw this after the poll question for today. We're shifting gears completely the best Father's Day gift that you have ever received with the of course tomorrow being father. Day. Well, but that's a, that's a tough one. Seeing my. Well, my now young adults. My son's now nineteen and my daughter's sixteen just walking down the stairs. Every day is, is an amazing Father's Day. But, but I have to have to go to my passion. Well, two passions one Dever bought me a really, really nice flower, Rudd few. A few years back and then back during my semi professional polo days. 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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - May 3rd 2019

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - May 3rd 2019

"Originating Jimmy Johns of Lexington studios. Welcome to the weekend. Stakes preview presented by Nyra. Nick, go that front is like term for home. Knicks Gold Cup. Hold off another upset here. Pinton final for Kate winter run a good him on the outside put up final firm on their gave winter outside the lead. Honey and cited bit by bit. We'll be second Beth visit pump down to the line. He doesn't know how to lose game winner. Waiters cup. Little bits of second sickle third and Mr. money for now, here's Anthony stabile and Jud feld. Good afternoon everyone. Welcome to the weekend. Stakes was the by Nyerere bets here on the horse racing radio network on the big AM to up at beautiful Belmont Park. The positive of the pick four Jude fell down in our Jimmy Johns of Lexington broadcast studios along without producer Lee dela Pena. It is the Kentucky Derby and oaks addition of the weekend stakes Freeview, happy oaks and derby, Jude. Yeah, days finally here rainy, but but it's here and we're ready to roll. Yes. Day one is here and following. This weekend's takes preview we will have our exclusive coverage of Kentucky oaks one forty five. Mike PANA anchors. Coverage live from Churchill Downs and six thirty the second half of this program was going to air again. So that late that all stakes pick for from Churchill Downs culminating with Kentucky, everyone forty five in the final segment of the program. Will be dedicated to this year's run for the roses. Speaking of the run for the roses, you wanna play over at Nara vets dot com had all over the opening account. That to hundred to get two hundred we'll give you different promo code just for today and tomorrow, it's Asia Aren twenty-five HR in twenty five alleged bet you hundred gets you hundred make a twenty five dollar win bet on your horse in the Kentucky Derby, and if the horse runs second or third Rebecca's going to give you your twenty five bucks back head over the naira bet stock com to find out more on how to get your free twenty five dollar derby bet today in if you finish second or third you're gonna get your money back enough with the pleasantries. Let's get right into it. And we will start with the Kentucky oaks. So we'll cover the Kentucky oaks. And then we will do three stakes races from dome on park on Saturday. Then we'll have the first three undercard races from Churchill, and then we'll wrap it up with the late pick four at Churchill Downs that all stakes pick for. But today the. Kentucky oaks goes race. Number eleven grade. One one point two five million on the line of field of fourteen Jude's to go to post yet. It's a very good race in the wide open. Lot of Phillies have super chance to win. They've been training. Good this week. I went with number three lady apple who on the fantasy at Oaklawn. She's looked fantastic in the mornings absolutely dead fit goes around the track. A couple times doesn't even look like she's done anything very impressive very eye-catching in the morning. And she's you know, one of those Phillies that that every time she's on the track your is just drawn to her. So twenty two one I think is ridiculous morning line. I think she'll be much less than that. Because I know there's a lot of sharp people that that likely apple restless writer, Kenny mcpeek, Philly, she's a very talented and and never been worse than. Second in her career had a nice prep race. That was totally planned by Kenny and she should be ready. She looks good in the mornings. She's feeling great. So we'll see how she runs an Jay walk. You know, she's really come around here. She looks better than she's looking long long time and really full herself. I think she's going to rebound in a big way. She's eight to one two mazing you can get eight to one on the two year old champion filly. So I think you should keep an eye on her. So that's that's the race for me. Do you think she'll be that eight to one now not even clubs can't be right? She'll be half of that. I think she'll be four. Yeah. I think Elian impossible for that. I think lady apple be more like ten. I mean, I know they can't all go down. But I, you know, I think there's some horses that are lower on the morning line, and they should be. But you know. We'll see what happens, but I'll tell you. She looks great. She looks absolutely fantastic. Especially yesterday yesterday was best day by far. So you like to see that you like to see him getting better and better every day. And she's one of those Phillies student. You can scratch. Dunbar road, and you could scratch point of honor out of the oaks, I went towards the outside the ten champagne anyone out of the blinkers stretched out back around to turn. She ran well for Ian, Wilkes kinda rounded into form and her third start of the year. I liked that effort last time out making up some ground and grinding away down at golfing park. The extra sixteenth of mile should help. She has one race on a wet track. It was at Keelan. It was at Churchill in the Goldenrod. She had no chance on that speed favoring inside track that day. I think this village in a rebound off that effort. She was good last time in the Gulf ING pox. I think she has a good chance to get the money this afternoon restless route is the other one man, they they ring a balance you just answers it. I a second all seven starts her career. She took a big run Jay walk in the British juvenile fillies. Again, another day where it was good to be on the front end. She got second place that day held off vibrance and Bella FINA who's favorite in here. She got beat just a not a Nostra. In that golden rod came back by design. Kenny mcpeek said he wanted one race for it was the Ashland. She just got beat after a stressful without I spend many gotta think the screws tight for this. She would not surprise me. And again, she has the one race on the wet track and the Goldenrod. She is brought to absolutely love it. They're the two for me. I guess Bella FINA can win. I don't want to short price. I really don't think she wants anything to do with a mile in eighth, although her Sandinista oaks points to another direction big things with hours to our one. Reset of southern California was not good. It was every juvenile fillies. And it's not like she came back this year and was bad. She was better this year than she was early last year. So that leaves me believe maybe she has trouble with that track. Or maybe she has trouble with the distance. Both at Churchill I'm going to try and beat her. Maybe apple make some sense. We got no shot again twenty two one. But if we had half of that, I would be happy those four for me the topic being champagne anyone that's tha. Day in the Kentucky oaks coverage begins at four PM. Right. When we wrap up the weekend stakes preview. All right tomorrow afternoon. Three stakes here at Belmont Park will rifle through them, the sheep said basic rate to Meilen three eighths or the Phillies Nares, we're gonna get some rain. He I would talk for me to imagine. They'll take this off of the turf because it sets up a prep day dome on stakes day in that phenomenal Breeders Cup like card. This is a prep for the New York during the Belmont Stakes racing festival. The four mossy prep of sorts for them in Hatton. So I can't imagine they're gonna take the turf stakes off. And as you would imagine Jude turf stakes in America, guess who trains the favorite, wait. I'm gonna tell you. It's Chad Brown. He has the number six Monica who's eight to five on the morning. Favorite of almost every race. Yeah. Santa monica. She looks fantastic on paper. She's you know, got my top marathon figure. She's also got. You know, fantastic turf figure she can handle the distance. She likes giving the ground on and on and on and on. She opens at eight to five she'll probably be more like three to five. That's why like yeah. The horse that you can talk. I like her to Semper sentient, she for my friend, John O'Connor. I think she has a chance in the toss. If it's really wet is holy how she just can't stand up on these what's her forces. But I'm gonna make an exact to hear a six to maybe a little reverse with Mark annex, Philly the to San percent chance she but topic like Judas, the number six Santa Monica goes early in the car that three four the sheep said bay a mile and three eighths for the Phillies and mass a couple of trek only in there as well. Just in case it really comes down. I think we're going to be okay on New York tomorrow. We'll say. Race number ten cut back to a mile neat for the grade. Three fort MARCY hundred fifty thousand on the line. You're never going to believe who has the favorite in this race on the Turkey. Yup. Chad round four to five Robert Bruce who made his debut in this event last year on Kentucky Derby day. He got the money. He won the two million. And then when they got the distance has got a little too long for him. I think in classic and the Breeders Cup Turf mile and a half. He cuts back. It's red hot Jose wiscon-. Oh, man. He looks take some beating the old racing form. Comments for Robert, Bruce. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's got one hundred fifteen racing post rating. So you know, how good he is how about that horse yesterday with the one twenty one. Travesty? Yeah. Robert Bruce for me. I I hate taking four to five shot coming off a layoff. But he's just a really nice horse. I mean, what what a talented horsey. Yes. And he won this race last year. So no reason to thinking won't win it this year. Chad once again. Yeah. Cold exact from me, Robert, Bruce, maybe a tiny reverse. I liked the marauders comeback in the dangers our. He had no chance no chance trip. They when it controlled Forty-six in one and specter. Linley was good that day. He made up a lot of ground late and. I think he's the one that can close out the exact so it'll be a cold to eight for me, Robert Bruce overrode, maybe sneak in a couple unit reverse that goes race number ten the fort. Marcy race eleven is the Westchester flat mile prep for the great one metropolitan handicap mile just five weeks from tomorrow Todd Pletcher four to five in the morning on here. Prince lucky man, he came back from June layoff. He's actually went three in a row. He won on on balanced aches day last year, took the easy goer. And then nobody saw him for about nine months tots on. But nobody else saw him. He came back to a four year old, and he has been very dominant at the flat mile distance of the Westchester. Yeah. Well, he's a very nice horse and Todd's done a great job within he's by Carinthian. And if you remember Carinthian winning the dirt mile in the slop at Monmouth park, he should handle any kind of race. Track. He's only run on the off once he finished third, but he is a much better horse now than he's ever been. He looks very very tough. I think my oh boy sunny ridge million to in the Bank, New Jersey bread. I think he's got a good shot if he can run back to that third place finish in the cigar mile that that was a pretty good race against a nice field. He could be all right in there. I keep an eye on him. All right. I'm gonna try my exact he would Bonduelle Jackson ran him on the main track for the first time last time New Orleans, handicap, he got peaches three links going long, he'll cut back to a one turn that Mike shoot his running style. I'll try a cold eight five prince lucky over Bangala in race number eleven at Domon tomorrow. The great three Westchester take a break comeback will head to my Olten Taki home and the first of three. First the first three of seven stakes on the Saturday Kentucky Derby, carjon through the weekend stakes preview present the by naira bets here on HR in your home for all of racing's because it's naira best is your on went home force racing and betting with narrow Bax. You can play hundreds of tracks from anywhere at anytime, computer or mobile device players are points on Bentonville the bankrolled promotions. Like just one today using promo code H R N two hundred hundred dollars within your first two weeks of membership and aren't shorter dollars right into your account. That's promo code H. R N two hundred available across the United States. Visit Tara Betts dot com for details. Events racing. Plate Championship meat may be over. 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This is Wesley ward on the conquer or last got. I listen to. This is the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets to the top of the stretch promises. Fulfilled with heart went alongside gap of three to Whitmore limousine. Liberal dalbar at the back forty five point zero nine seconds for the first half mile. Here comes Whitmore on the far outside after promises fulfilled limousine, liberals and tight and as needing room in the final furlong Whitmore prophecies fulfilled limousine liberal still hunting for racing room passed the sixteenth pole. Promised us both filled with Whitmore promises. Fullfil three year old winds stall Canaan Ogden Phoenix in one oh nine point five. Promises fulfilled gutted out a big victory against older horses. The three year old last year. He's four now. He'll be making his first start since a fourth place finish in Dubai in the church downtown tomorrow afternoon, but he twin spires at Churchill Downs. Welcome back to that weekend. Stakes preview presented by naira bets here on the horse racing radio network. The big a and the pontiff taken you through. An exciting hour here. On the weekend stakes preview. Lots going on time. Now for the blood wars. News update, a look at the top headlines from blood horse dot com. We know about Omaha beach grass we know about Haikal being scratching now. Mike Smith, right cutting Umer in Kentucky Derby, triple crown winning writer. Mike Smith will replace multiple leading Churchill Downs writer, Corey Lowery aboard cutting Umer in the may fourth grade one Kentucky Derby one year after guiding justify to asleep of the triple crown races. Smith was left without amount F connections of morning, every favorite Omaha beach announced me I that he'd be scratched because entrapped Gladys train by Fletcher stall racing humor. Enters the Debbie off a win in the great three someone park derby, March twenty four th Starlight managing partner. Jack Woolf said the owner would pay Both Smith and Lanteri the customary jockeys ten percent of any person earned by cutting humor in the derby. That wraps up today's edition of the news update. Don't miss any of the triple crown race covered. Like only blow us can bring you. Plus right now, you can find out for the blowtorch triple crown special weekly issues for only twelve bucks, go to dot com slash TC to sign up now. Offensive Corey Lowery. But when you can get one of the greatest jockeys in the history of the world to ride a horse that you've never written, and you're going to get paid. I think you should be kind of. Okay with that decision. Yeah. That's just me. You don't have to get thirty. You don't have to get dirty and money. Mike's one quite a few more big races than Corey. I don't think it really makes that much difference. You look at some of the Jacksonville win, the Kentucky Derby, and that's their only claim to fame. So that's true. I point you know, you great point you were not. Enamored with writers as. Correct. Correct. Son. Only been in Namur with a handful of them in my life. But but yeah, I just I don't know if it makes difference. I think it's it's bad for karma. I don't think it's the karmic thing to do. But it doesn't matter. Nobody cares. What I think? Anyway, never asked ever ask us. Speaking of money. Mike the grade one humanity. Steph kicks off the stakes action Saturday Churchill. Goes race. Number six field of seven seven eighth of a mile and his Marley's. Freedom comes in off a second place finish trying to turns in the beholder mouths the first time she went. She turns in career cuts back at one. She is seven five on the morning line. Mike was aboard for her ballerina escorts our toga last year, a near miss and the filling sprint over the church down scores. And that win in the go from one over at the big. Yeah. You know, she's a she's running mile a couple times. And she's she just doesn't seem to be in the same kind of sink. But she still keeps winning. She's very tough Philly. I I went with spice perfection. I thought her last race was really good. I thought it was game. That was impressive to watch. That was her second start for Pete Miller. She got the highest Brisbane speed figure she ever gotten her life. She's had time to recover. I I I like her a little bit a little bit better price. Yeah. I thought it was molly's freedom gonna make a couple of exact seventy seven threes. Molly ringwald despite perfecting this tracks is wet as people think it's going to be the mischief the number three certainly moves up. She's two or three with a second on the off going. I know she's run some faster races on the dry land. But she's a little bit more visually impressive on track. She's won a couple of times Churchill Downs. She would be the one. If track was wet that I think would benefit the most though molly's freedom won the Santa Monica over a coarsely will go to be a little different sanity. Good course as opposed to a sloppy Churchill down surface. We slow say she should handle just fine seven over two three mall these freedom. My top pick choosing to spice perfection race number six tomorrow. The grade one who on this staff race number seven will take the Phillies to the turf of flat mile for the the Churchill distaff turf mile defending champ proctors ledges back. We had a good price last year. Got over. Six to one almost seven one. She hasn't won since that day. So nearly a year. But you know, she just missed the Chad Brown's raving beauty in the just a game. She just missed the Chad Brown's Thana when Charlie she just missed mine. Chad round in the Boston spa with Kadora item done. And speaking of Chad Brown press us from post six via Castellano, and the very impressive environs makes her US stakes debut off a monster allowance scored Qinglin. Well, proceeds Rian fantastic in in her comeback ratio beat valedictorian who came back to win. There's lots like about her agree with you on Proctor sledge. I think she's going to run a big race. She's a Philly that can handle given the ground, and she's pretty tough. I mean, she she's been like, you you don't really want to say she's been out of form, but she hasn't been winning. But but she certainly capable of winning you sound like you're high on environs. I knew your big judgment fan as I am environs was running against the clock in the allowance race at Keeneland. It was one of the weakest allowance races. I've ever seen run at Keeneland. She figured to absolutely to- rope the field, which she did. But I think she's better. Than that. And I'm not going to count it against her that that she beat a bad field. At least you beat them. If she if she would know won that race. I she would have gotten life for me. So I think she's a horse you have to contend with. And I know a lot of people are going to be all over the press use thing. But environs I think has a pretty decent shot at the race. You'll smile when I say this chat round closing at act hanging out for one called one of the final races. And I said I said, hey. That was something environs. He's yeah. I said he said who remind you of I said onto. No. And he smiles like, yeah. Everybody forgets about onto. It was like. Feld felt about the just a game and onto. No. And I said, yeah, he said I got a lot of Granja tasers like, no, no, no. That was onto no two point. And we all know what happened with onto? No. So yeah, she's she off in August. Layoff off for starters. Four year old. I think she's ready to roll with that said, I'm going to use proctors legend press protectively because I respect both of them Praca sledge, a big win over the course Johnny vs back aboard her and press use. I mean, she got beat head to stablemate looney. We didn't see how from August March. She came back. She improved her first donors a five year old. I think you've got to use them protectively, but the wind bet in this election is number nine environs. It goes race. Number seven the Churchill to staff turf mile race eight we'll wrap the first half of the program the Churchill Downs going seven furlongs. Big field in here. Take out limousine liberal. Unfortunately, had to be retired. What an old warhorse man hate to see them go. Speaking of old war so far outside. We got Whitmore who just missed. In this three quarters three and a quarter lengths in this last year behind the missing liberal and warriors club just missed behind the Tolley last. I'm out Matola in here promises, fulfilled wedge land in the church announced. Well, Mottola was running in the four horse race with no speed. So I that race was kind of a walkover in my opinion. There was only one horse in that race was Matola. I thought Whitmore in really good to finish second to them. He he laid up as close as he could to him. I mean, it's not his style to via a speedy presser. And he did it. Anyway, in ran very well. So I'm gonna take wit more seven furlongs today. There's a lot more speed in here Matola, he's not going to get that easy lead that he had the last time. And and I'm gonna take Whitmore to beat him. Okay. What Moore's definitely a player in here. I think promises fulfilled as a player, and I think Matola player. My biggest issue totally is. Save Whitmore last time out. He really hasn't faced much in his career. Now when you're fastest him. It talked to face much, but man shoot it there looks like this speed. He he's not gonna have things his own way the ways accustomed to, you know, promises filled is very fast bobby's wicked one wanna Commonwealth has plenty of speed. There's a lot of guests on I got a sneaky feeling about abortion. I want a little off the reservation. I took the seven warriors club. This horse comes in a couple of races at Oaklawn off a form of layoff. He went to turns in his first start back on a flat mile, just a half length came back. He made up a little ground and then held behind bobby's wicked one in that Commonwealth. All the speed in here figures to be a little further back in the normal as he gets my main man tomorrow afternoon till all resign and the way this race is going to set up. Warriors, clubbed can be taken back and make one run nobody. And I mean, nobody finishes like my man, Joe, always REO. He's at UC twelve to one on the morning line. I'm gonna see if warriors club can upset this apple cart in race number eight. Again, you gotta respect Matola. You gotta respect with more of if if. Warriors club doesn't fire. I think Whitmore will be the one to pick up the pace late. And I liked the fact that Ron MO. Had him up close last time because he somebody had a chase Matola and you'd beat speed which speed he just he's not fast enough top Castawano tomorrow. That's a big plus so the two would be warriors club in Whitmore from me. I'll use the two speeds promises to fill the Mottola as well. But going to be warriors club goes race. Number eight, the church hill downs handicap, going seven furlongs fun. First half of the show, Jude. The good stuff. The real good stuff starts in the second half. That late pick for the all stakes pick for a huge guarantee looking forward to getting involved in that. Wait pick for y'all set for my friend. I'm ready. All right. We're gonna take a break here on the weekends preview presented by naira batch. And when we come back we'll get to that pick for listening to the weekend. 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Anytime to listen this week, we have a special two part episode. The first half we visit with jockey Jose Ortiz, and we close out with jockey, Sophie Doyle, it's jock talk presented by Tito's handmade vodka every Tuesday at six or force racing radio dot net. Hey, everyone. This is Mike panik, join me and our entire H R N T Saturday at two pm eastern live from Churchill Downs for exclusive radio coverage of the one hundred forty fifth Kentucky Derby is there. Another justify among this year's field. Find out Saturday beginning at two PM eastern on Sirius to nineteen XM to one affiliates across the country and streaming worldwide at horse racing radio dot net. Originating from our Jimmy Johns of Lexington studio. Welcome to the weekend stakes preview presented by Nyra. The top of the stretch not that Brady is put away jovial. But here come Texan Tacitus with their runs. Three quarters one eleven point four six and they're into the stretch. And here comes Tacitus and the two of them are right together. As they come to the pole one shot math wizard is run a big one. He's third outside tested us on the outside rail, tennis and. Second on the side as they come down to the night pal late. It is Tacitus and the what memorial. Paul was third math wizard was fourth it one fifty one point two three. Now, here's Anthony stabile and Jud feld. Again. Welcome to the weekend. Stakes preview presented by naira bets here on the horse racing radio network on the big a Anthony's to be up at beautiful Belmont Park down. Our Jimmy Johns of Lexington broadcast videos. The pick four Jude feld and producer Lee dela Pena. We're going to get your set for the all stakes pick four at Churchill. We'll go over the American turf the Pat Day mile and the turf classic now. And then I'll final segment Jude will be all about Kentucky Derby, one forty five you pump that it's here. Yeah. I can't wait. It's going to be great the racist very competitive this year. And you know, I'm I'm dying to see who wins. And who was right and who was wrong because everybody thinks that their opinion is the only. It's been a lot of fun reading all the Twitter feed, and and that and people talking about horses like they actually knew what was going to happen. So it's it's been entertaining for me. Wait, hold on a second all the peoples opinions count. Yeah. Evidently. No. That was a rule, but we all vary. Opinions. But one thing we should have in common. We should be all at naira bets dot com. This Kentucky Derby as wide open their lots of money that you made one place you must bet the derby as with Nyra, bats naira benches, giving new players are free twenty five dollar win bet on the Kentucky Derby, if you horse gets second with third you get you cash back. Don't miss this limited time free twenty five dollar bet from naira betcha this what you do you. Sign up today with the promo code HR in twenty five you still going to bet you hundred to get two hundred and two weeks, but you're gonna get that twenty five dollar Beth on the derby. And if you'll horse runs second or third money-back hit the number, but it's dot com for more details. The only place you could play the naira bets late pick five year outside the Greek state of New York and happens every day here at Belmont and Saratoga last five races head over to naira bets dot com for more details. All right. Let's dive right in Churchill Downs race number nine the great to American turf. Earthy three year olds are gonna go mile and a sixteenth. We have a solid field of thirteen. A baker's dozen ready to roll Jude. You know at first glance, you could probably make a case for five or six of these. Yeah. Absolutely. This is one of the best races on a derby undercard that I can remember. I mean this race is very deep. There's a lot of talented horses in this event. I'm really looking forward to it. When I was handicapping God. This is racist. Amazing. A threat of blues done pretty much nothing wrong in his life Kieron's been very high on this horse. It would be nice for Karen to win this race as a consolation for half an scratch high-cal. But you know, he's not a horse. It really seems to like given the ground. His worst races have come on good unyielding turf courses. He's very good on the on the firm and what he gets it at Gulfstream. He's won his last three starts Gulfstream in in looked since ASICs. Doing it. He's got the best turf number and all that. But I'm a little leery of him. Now, you know on on the on the turf course with a lot of giving digital age with super impressive in both. A his starts granted day were at Tampa. But the Columbia stakes was a good race global acess who fish third in their came back to win. I ride sticks with them. I think that's a good sign. He's got a lot of blue sky this horse. You gotta consider him seismic. Wave really impressed me when he went to Cutler bay he came from dead last on turf course at that's really hard to do. And he got up in the in the final strides. He looked really sharp. Look like one of those Judd Mont horses of all that used to do amazing things. And now he's won his last two starts. He's never been beaten farther than a neck and his entire career is first race came on a yielding course, he got beat the neck that day. I'm not going to count that against them and then eighties. Flatter is another one who trained. By Joseph Carroll. Just amazing trainer in in this colts. One three in a row. He's got a shot havi are rides back. So those are the top four for me. And I'm pretty sure one of those four is gonna win this race. Yeah. I I think this four as well. We re on the first two digital age purchase out of the same Saleh's newspaper of record by Claridge stable for Chad Brown. He's been sensational starts passing horses making up ground late with some of that European pedigree. There a what's her would not be a problem for him? Because biggest issue is the fact that he's broken slowly in both of the stars will have to overcome that as the water gets a little deeper, but he's good seismic. Wave may ground up. The inside. I'd always impresses me his two defeats like you said unnec in his debut when he was probably best. And then he got beat ahead to a horse named the Marsh. A who you're going to hear from from Chad Brown. He broke his maiden in November one allowance race nicely at Keeneland April. And then he's won two in a row Lasix went on Gulf me. But he's making grand Gulf in like you said you that's just tough to do. We figure Churchill's and to be a lot more forgiving to his running style. I know what you're saying about a threat of blue and is a good chance threat of Lou just loved that firm Ranco for him. But he's in good form right now. And maybe he's the goods and Henley's joy, fry, buddy. Jeff bloom, you know, he dances a lot of dances. He always rings the bell. They foolishly tried them on the dirt trying to follow in the footsteps of snap arson. Claire it didn't work. They went right back to the turf. He ran a winning race in Transylvania, and he gets money Mike aboard. So those are the four for me, but my top picks it'd be digital age. It goes race number nine degree to American turf race ten back to the dirt flat mile. We'll stick with the three year olds the Pat Day mile out of the shoot. Just to be the derby trial. Now, it's Pat they mile and they weren't on the Kentucky Derby undercard big field. In the field of fifteen is also audible list global campaign for sag more farms danley huff, big favourite, those instagrams he's gonna cut back from Santa Anita derby third-place finish where was beating just two hundred quarterbacks to be hopefuls roadster and game winner. He was a good third off along layoff in the Gotham chasing, some wicked fractions that afternoon cut back to the one turn mile havi Castellano back aboard, I think it'll be tough to not say this horse is the horse to beat in the pet day mile. Yeah. There's no question about it. I mean, you know, his to to to turn races are ridiculous. He went by ten in both want you win by ten in both of them, the two turns maybe maybe too far for him. I don't know he's buying into mischief you'd think with lawyer run in the bottom side, he could he could get a little bit farther, and he probably can't eventually he's still young horse. Pretty inexperienced all in. All. So you gotta you gotta put him on top. I would think you know, last judgment was a horse that that I'm interested in. He's won his last two starts for Todd Pletcher to sprints. He stretched out. He won. He's owned by the Mathis brothers, and they always have good horses global campaign. You know, he's gotta get in. But but I liked him enough to put a few bucks on him in the in the future pool for the Kentucky Derby, I thought his race at Gulfstream Park has allowance victory was really really nice, and then he had some Tootsie problems, which I guess are over with now. And then Mr. moneybags. You know, he's he's one of those horses. I I wrote in pope Jude that he's one of the sources that comes out of the tumbleweeds. He's kinda got a mine that bird kinda look to them. You know, like who is this horse? Where's he coming from running around delta downs and Sam Houston in Zia park. And but sometimes those horses can really run. I mean, he's been beaten up on the competition at those tracks. And who knows how good he is. I think you if you're looking for a horse to throw in your try to big number. He's he's your man, Mr. moneybags, I like his name too. All right. That's where I landed. Mr moneybags. Isn't that funny? Little bit like I'll show perfect around one his one turn races. And I know he's running against much less five three quarters five and a half eleven and a half seven land. She's got plumbing early speed. He's also rated from off the pace. I think like a wet track. He's got one of my favorite writers. Chris Landeros a big price. Man. I'd love to see him upset the abbot. I'm using him. I mean, Instagram's obviously has to be used on whatever you're doing whatever bet you're making. I'm gonna give you another horse at a little bit of Kuku price. This dump? His first two starts, right? Everybody was making it out to be all sorts of going to be live. He gallops to turns at ten he runs even better when they cut him back at one turn seven eighths at Churchill now, obviously it bothers me that he didn't run well on the wet track in the cage AC, and if this tracks really sloppy I probably knock him down a peg, but he was wide that day. I don't know. I don't know how we wound up in the five from the three hole. But that's definitely owned for you. And then he ran them springboard mile. Good effort. Risen star was no good tambi. W isn't really good. I don't think he wants to go along that could've been the other problem in the cage. AC it might not have been the sloppy track. He just might not wanna go a step past flat mile and the one turn miles or a lot different than to turn races. As you know. I think he's live. I really really really think he's live tomorrow. I'm gonna box the three of them bene- few bucks win, Mr. moneybags, and maybe hawking back on my buddy L stars days. And go Dutch if they're both fifteen to one make a couple of win bets on most of the money bags and dumped I've never been the biggest Instagram fan. So I'll take a little shot against him. Tomorrow in race number ten the pet day mile race eleven to the turf Wego the great one turf classic a million dollars on the line a mile and an eighth doubles and pick three's about away oaks derby, double, of course, there's an oaks turf classic. Derby pick three as well. I'll be getting involved you can get all of Jude selections, and he expounds on everything with some plays at Jude dot com. My stuff available over biggest insider dot com. Mylan eighth on this turf. Course, you gotta figure there's gonna be some given the ground big field in here, man. You knew you call this a week ago. I lost sleepover. Pick between raging bull and bricks and mortar man, I all ultimately landed on bricks because I did not love raging bulls last effort at Keeneland in the makers forty six mile. I'm gonna use the two of them top pitching, bricks and more. I was laughing when I saw the entries because I know those are like your favorite horses, and boy aunties gonna have some suffering. Do I went the other way, I took raging bull. I thought it's come back. Raise was a comeback race. And I think he's going to be at his best this time around. So I I went to twelve instead of twelve to I also like CHAD'S other horse. If two isn't enough you gotta have three take onto rogue. I think he's not as accomplished as raging bull in bricks and mortar, but I think he's got a chance. And then if somebody's going to upset the field, I think it's going to be the one curb on because he just runs good all the time. He's getting blinkers this time, and he's also getting Mike Smith Mike's ridden in before finished third on them. But I think that horse. He sneaky good and one of these days. He's just gonna feel like it. And I'm sure the giving ground is going to suit him. Right. Well, there is the. Analysis of the grade one. Turf classic goes race number eleven. On the Saturday Carta Churchill, we'll take a break when we come back all in his left to do reflect on what's been done. It's time for Judean. Either. Finally, give you our official selection. If the weeks and months of chatting about Kentucky, Derby one Forty-five, we'll do it right here. When we come back. 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That's Gulfstream Park dot com. Hey, everyone. This is Mike pennant. Join me and our entire HR team Saturday at two pm eastern live from Churchill Downs for exclusive radio coverage of the one hundred forty fifth Kentucky Derby is there. Another justify among this year's field. Find out Saturday beginning at two PM eastern on Sirius nineteen XM to one affiliates across the country as streaming worldwide at worse racing radio dot net. Steve asmussen. You're listening to the horse racing radio. This is the weekend stakes preview presented by Nyerere bet. But he called on. Instagram game. Winner Roach finding his. Track. Putting beg effort gain winner between. Here storming home. Side and date winner. Go on roadsters confidently. Cuts off to win them center. Nita derby ultra impressively game winner with second Instagram third. No contest fourth. Frank Mira body on the call of the centimeter derby roadster, he the one that you've bought Baffert his record tying six win in the world's most famous horse race, the one hundred forty fifth Kentucky Derby is tomorrow. Welcome back to the weekend. Stakes preview presented by naira bats here on the horse racing radio network. All right. Let's get right into it. We'll give you our Saturday schedule when we wrap this up. Let's talk Kentucky Derby one forty five. We've been doing a lot. It's time to really get down to the nuts. And bolts we have about ten minutes to cover this Kentucky, Derby Omaha beach out Haikal out for those of you wondering the horses in the auxiliary gate not affected the horses in the main starting gate are namely war of will he gets to break from post to everyone moves out a stall. So it's not really affecting many of them. It just helps war of will. He's not directly behind the interrail when the gate open. So they'll load from stalls to twenty as opposed to one to nineteen and that was key for a horse like war of will. Let's talk about the pay scenario. How do you see this race unfolding early on? Well, I think there's there's going to be a good pace on their several horses in here with speed. And it's been my experience in the Kentucky Derby the Jackson. Any prisoners early on the they're all trying to get position? They're they're trying to get into good spot in the way to do that to assert yourself leaving the gate. So I think I think there's going to be a good pace. I think it's going to be a race that horses can win from pretty much anywhere depending on how the track place the track. Maybe fast may be just a sea of slop maybe somewhere in between. So we don't really know that right now, but all things being equal. I think it'll probably be fair. It's usually at the at the peak of perfection at derby time, no matter what the condition is as good as it could be for the derby. So the crew knows knows this tracking how to take care of it. And I think it'll be as good a shape as possible. Okay. So that is gonna play a role as to how this shapes up as well. We'll see with that. With the tracking is hopefully they dodged rain down Louisville. We'll see it hasn't worked the last couple of years. All right. Who do we like I mean, you know, we like someone that's going to be Foley placed again, the one thing I've said the people as if track wet just you gotta watch the track is playing throughout the day. I know that stinks for all the work that that's put in. But you gotta adapt a little bit on the fly. Sometimes. And you know, this really hasn't seemed to be the kind of year where people have married themselves horses. And that might be a good thing favorites probably going to be five one maybe six to one now at Omaha beach out and not marrying yourself to awards might be a real good thing here because there's going to be an awful lot of value offered in this race. Yeah. I would assume. So I think the the deal is not being married to a horse's one thing. But I think they're. So many horses that that have a chance that people are liking different ones. And depending about their zeal. Whether how much they're going to bet on him. But I'm going to stick with the horse that I've thought was going to win the Kentucky Derby since last year. You know, I kind of kind of a loyalist, and I'm also the kind of guy that you know, you've got you gotta beat the champ. And I think aim winners the champ he got the dirty knows in the rebel by Omaha beach. I mean, he ran good enough to win that day last time out against roadster. He ran a mile and a quarter. And I think it was by design. I think Bob Baffert told Rosario and need to get this horse fit. He'd missed some time because of the Santa Anita race track woes, and they kept them. Why the entire time? He got the half linked by roadster. Not surprising. I think he's coming up to this race. Great. He's he's the horse to beat for me and has been for a long long time months. So I'm not changing my tune at this juncture in not being hard head either. That's who I I really like in this racist game winner. All right. Who do we fill out our exact as I've tries if you're a brave soul super factor it with some of the other contenders here in your eyes. I'm going to use win win win. I was very impressed with his last two races. He's really rounding to form catching onto the to turn thing. Three a Keeneland was sharp. I thought he's looked great in the mornings here. I mean, he looks fantastic. I think he's got a big chance. I love the fact that his two grants won the Kentucky Derby. I mean, I think that that really says a lot about his pedigree and what kind of distance he can get. So I like him. I like spin off a horse of Todd Pletcher who isn't getting much regard. He's he's a little bit of a high strung horse, but his his works have been good. His numbers are improving. He comes from Pletcher barn. I mean, what's not to like about that in many Franco's? Just had a great run all winter long. He's been riding super we see him ride every day in the guy doesn't amazing job. So I think he's got a good chance. You know, coma is a horse that a lot of people are kind of forgetting about he opens at twenty to one. I mean, his his bluegrass was pretty good. You know? I know he's got that paddle issue or whatever. But havi are Cassiano said he didn't even know it till one of his friends told him about it doesn't bother me when he runs. His numbers are good enough to win. He's won three out of four starts last things to like about him, and then country house you, and I interviewed Bill Motte, you did most of the heavy lifting and and the right before he was checking out he said, you know, country house. And I love when trainers do that. It's always the last horse. They mentioned kind of is an afterthought and country houses greatness breezes. He's galloping, you know, he's he's kind of a kind of a rough Yoon kind of horse. He's not not really flashy or anything, but he goes out there and does work in and he's going to be huge number. So I'm gonna use him down below for. Sure. And maybe have a couple of tickets with him on top. All right. Every time. I tried to turn the conversation to Tacitus bilk turn it back to country. Yeah. Love he's the he's the fourth pick. He'll be he'll be rolling late. You know that he likes to make up ground. Bill Motte was hell bent on getting this to the Kentucky Derby, you don't see Bill duty. Does you know sent them to the fairgrounds twice? He didn't get enough poison to put that boy right on van sent him to Oaklawn park. Put you all Valerio on go get go get me some points. Guess third money gets the points and third. And now he's in the Kentucky Derby starting gate, reaches out, floppy and Pratt didn't care. He basically told us. I don't even care about the draw sauce becoming from last. I don't care if he draws one or twenty he drew twenty. So he's going to be towards the outside. It doesn't really matter though. Like Bill said he's going to drop back and make one run. He'd be my shot. Right P, all your friends. You casual casual fans your friends that play three or four races a year. Gimme the long shot. That's my. Long shot. I think three horses win this race. I'm a big Tacitus fan. I have been attached this fan since before he was born his mom close. Hatches one of my favorite race mares of all time. I've made a lawful lot of money with her especially on Belmont eight and twenty fourteen when she won the Phipps and tunnels on the Belmont. So she'll always be near India, my heart. The fact that he's alter talented helps and speaks volumes. He just a good horse. If you turn these horses, loosen paddock. And let me pick one out. I pick him. I look forward to pay stool the quick pace. I look forward to him picking these up late in the game. And I think he's going to get the money and Kentucky everyone forty five code of honor is my man should mcgahey. I, you know, I don't know if he wants a mile on a quarter. That's my biggest question with him. But he gets Johnny v was giving them a couple of brilliant rides at Gulfstream. And maybe Jude he just doesn't like stream park. He didn't run. Well, the Mutuel macho man he did have a perfect trip when he won the the fountain of youth, and then he ran third under less than I d. Circumstances when there was no pace in the Florida derby, maybe getting outside of Gulfstream park's going to be an elixir for him. Even though we ran okay? And got his points down this winter. Maybe he, you know, he's an athletic horse. He'll deal with the traffic and game. When you know the narrative we haven't heard his race over. The course we usually hear that a lot. We'd haven't heard that this year, and he won the rediscover juvenile on a day. He probably shouldn't have won because he just didn't look like himself, great horses slide. I don't use the word great as much as a lot of people. Do neither you great horses. Win races against circumstances against adversity great horses win races. They really shouldn't have one. And I know that sounds ridiculous because even money to win the race. But he probably shouldn't have won that day. And he did. And you know, he's run a mile in eighth a mile and a sixteenth race in a mile and a quarter in amount in eighth race. So he's probably fit. I always had this. Questions about him as well. We'll see if he gets the mile and a quarter. If he does he could very well. And I think he's the only Baffert that has any kind of chance any kind of chance to win Kentucky everyone forty five and give Bob Baffert his record tying sixth victory. Alright again, pope Jude Vegas insider. Time now for the naira bets. Best bet this is the naira beds. Best bet. Barter pump. Well, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna go the Kentucky Derby and a pig. Game winner, my naira bets. Best bet. Wow. Cold, call both call the pontiff Colin his shot in the Kentucky Derby game winner, his naira bets. Best bet. I'm going to kind kinda hedge on my naira bets. Best bet this week. I'm gonna go back to the turf classic. And I'm gonna tell you the box raging bull and bricks and mortar exact the box raging bull bricks and mortar I will literally be rooting for a dead heat when they come to the wire the turf classic. I don't want either of them to be mad at me. So the naira bets best for me is an exact box in the turf classic to twelve raging bull and bricks and mortar. Alright handicapping done. Let's tell you about what's going on here at the horse racing radio network. Tomorrow's a big day. We'll start at eight o'clock in the morning. Equine forms of shuttle launch the network presented by farm paint dot com. Jude fell we'll be manning the controls. He as you for two hours from eight to ten AM eastern time undercard coverage and derby preview from two to five live from Churchill Downs. And then from five to seven thirty our coverage in conjunction with NBC sports. And Westwood One of Kentucky Derby, one Forty-five Mike Pence anchors the coverage Becker alongside Jeff Blum Bobby Newman. I mean tire HR team will be live beneath the twin spires at Churchill Downs for. What is arguably the most exciting day of American racing throughout the nothing like derby? How'd you know, it's it's awesome. Everybody has a great time. And. Really looking forward to it. Yeah. Fantastic. Day of racing set to come your way. Tomorrow, you'll hear it right here on your home for all rations biggest events, including the Kentucky Derby in triple crown horse racing radio dot net and against serious to nineteen XM tool. One checkout website worst racing radio dot net to listen to the call in show from this week, plenty of calls jock. Talk trainer talking that half hour program. You want to listen to that head over to listen programming from earlier in the week. Tomorrow's derby dig day of racing set foot Amaro, Jude. It's been a pleasure. Getting ready for Kentucky, gummy one forty five with you. Enjoy my friend. All right. It's going to be fun looking forward to for June Lee on the big a Anthony's to be L. I hope you all your photo finishes. Best of luck and Kentucky Derby one forty five. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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Episode 62: Churchill Downs, Santa Anita Stakes

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Episode 62: Churchill Downs, Santa Anita Stakes

"All right so we're back this week on racing on episode number sixty two. We got a lot of stuff to get to on this show so much sakes action this weekend. They're like I mentioned Gulfstream kind of filled up the calendar last weekend. But this is the first real weekend where everything gets back into it but I just want to. We got a lot of stuff to get to. So we're going to very briefly. Just take a look back at some of the some races down Gulfstream and also talk about the couple of allowance racists from Churchill. This weekend that are we're talking about as well as hit on the desert stormer out at Santa Anita so just to recap from last weekend Friday Saturday Sunday done at Gulfstream on Friday. Total a shape back in the winter circle in that race Double Crown on Saturday when the war stakes. Jakarta won the powder break and musical. Romance went to Lady's Island and then finally the Sunday silence on Sunday was won by just whistle so like I mentioned we wanted to just get through these a really quickly but we will just hit one one thing until the shape. She's back in the winter. Circle runs while golf stream in lower level stakes. So you know. We picked against her both of US air. Eric has been the king of Ping against a toll shape but just briefly mention Yoshi in races like this really hard racist like this Gulfstream. It's really hard to doubt her. She's got to do it at some other. Some other level Whether it's in another graded stakes race or at another track which That still remains to be seen whether or not she does that. So that's just the one comment that we have from this weekend and maybe also the other thing is don't Right off the fact that green like Oh might in fact the horse wants to go longer. that those are the takeaways that I had from this weekend. Also worth mentioning the powder. Break Him off the turf. So that's why got stormy did not run this weekend. So that race kind of lost a lot of its luster there. So that's my take wisdom. This weekend I'll let Eric. I Know Eric Mall just one thing quickly on God stormy before we move onto some of the other races from this weekend forgot storming race came off the turf so obviously he was running. Took a lot of the town away. We also saw the to Chad Brown horses. Scratch from that spot We'll see wherever they decided to come back. Churchill probably as a couple race we could see those three pop back up and For tunnel shape to of listen chief. She won't nicely. I'm still not convinced he can compete at a great one. high level Yet obviously there's more to see and adult when she wanted to desert stormer this past Sunday Super Nice win of obviously he loves Santa Anita in California and up overly she can continue to string together. Some good wins out there for the rest of the year in. Who knows maybe finally get that went outside of California. That is one thing that I was going to get to was to hit on the topic. We mentioned this when she lost to mischief less. Start out at Oakland. This Bell Athena needs to stay in California as early as after the Kentucky Oaks that Simon Cowe should've taken her back to California and hit her in those fields over there where she runs really well so it's really good to see her back in California. Getting that win you know. She's runs really nice racing. Great ones out there This was great three but good. Good Start for her to get back on the comeback trail for her on a win. And maybe we'll get get to see her running some other high level grade one races. We also WANNA hit on the two races from Churchill this weekend Two allowance races one of them featuring the return of two thousand eighteen champion three year. Old Filly monoploy girl. Obviously that season was headlined by her. Wins in the Kentucky Oaks and in the Breeders Cup distaff. She had a fantastic year in the year. Two thousand eighteen. You know you don't often see a horse go on a year and a half long off and then come back much less a horse with the town of Montemar girl but it's really good to see you back on the comeback trail one thing. I do want to quickly. Mention is a lot of people have been jumping the gun and saying that she's better than midnight already. I will say this one thing. I'm not going to say that one is better than the other do. Just want to mention one thing. Both of these forces are completely different midnight. Think anyone would. Argue is a completely different horse when she was a three year. Old Girl we don't know how she's progress from three to five. But you know that wasn't allowance when it wasn't like she was running into grade one caliber horses so any person who wants to say that you know monoploy girls back and you know she's one step ahead of midnight. Be Sue. Pump the brakes on that. Because Momma girl just because she wanted allowance race and just because she was better than her in all their starts at three doesn't mean that she's maintained that former doesn't mean that midnight has progressed to be better than her. That's just the one point that I want to make on that not saying that anyone's better than the other Just got got to wait until you see them on I mean Jack Jack Nailed it on the head there. They're they're completely given midnight. Museum is supremely beyond what she was at three despite being such a horse then. Iman wingels only comeback speed allowance. Bill that was not of the level. She's going to be facing from here on out in two awesome awesome older workers that we're fortunate to have and I'm really happy that the connections Prog Montenegro. Back for this year But but this time will tell who the better horses as the as the year goes on. It's also worth mentioning this weekend. The return of the one two finishers in the Breeders Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint four wheel drive in chimney rock. This was run one by chimney rock. Although it is worth mentioning that four wheel drive was completely predicated at the start. Did Not break left at the gate. You Know Ultra Line through this race. Four wheel drive is definitely better than the seven place finish. He had here but it does valley his performance in the Breeders Cup juvenile turf sprint. Because the horse that he finished the finished second to Him Jimmy. Rock went onto win this race. So that is the one thing that I will mention about him is that he's not done. That isn't a terrible horse. Because he ran seventh year I start off pretty decent layoff and then also the fact that got left at the gate. still believe in four wheel drive and hopefully we'll get to see him a lot. Better next start out and I'm not gonNA take away from Chimney Rock. I mean all week. Kind of just disregarded what he did the do focus on four-wheel-drive loss but in Julia Operan. Such good raise. We know he's a talented horse. A Good Tur- Sprint of the rest of the year. And he's going to be an exciting prospect. Also the runner up Jack and know. Who'S A horse? I talked about last week as being a possible threat. Rain huge and as royal drive. We know he's better than that. We've seen it It's really just starting go. Well of very down on the inside you have to break lower turf sprint like that so we know who about bounce back and it's going to be a strong race going forward from all angles from personal last. It's going to be a good grace all right so that was very brief. Look back at the action from this past weekend like I mentioned Churchill. Put some nice races on their car this weekend. This is a monster card. You know. As I mentioned the five stakes stake races. But there's also some really nice allowance races that we're not going to be able touch on on this card but the five states from this weekend the blame the Shawnee for older fillies and Mares or the Shawnee for the older fillies mares on the dirt and the blame for the older males on the dirt. Those are two really nice races in. You've also got the tepid and the war chant for three year old Kevin for three hundred phillies on the grass and the war chant for three year old males on the grass and then also a derby prep to round out those five really solid stakes races and Matt Wayne. Eighty five points up grabs fifty to the winter on it. Of course features the return of the breeders futurity winner Max Field. Who would've been a really really nice one of the British Cup Juvenile? Had he not had he been able to run their and not scratched up but You know unfortunately circumstances did not benefit him in that and he was not able to run there. But the first we're going to get to on this is probably the best race on the card all in all which is the tepid steaks and this race is fantastic number one because it's bringing back the return of the Breeder's cup juvenile fillies turf winner sharing and normally in this race sharing would be the slam dunk number one choice in here but not necessarily in this spot. Another really good horse in here is often owned Michaelson. Trained all who is undefeated. Four for four including a win this year in stakes at the fairgrounds alms has been really good. Also you know you don't want to take much away from sharing alms has been a really good horse and aside from those. There's some really nice courses in here You know all has not run since that race at the fairgrounds and then sharing Has Not run since the Breeders Cup juvenile fillies turf. She does have is worth mentioning for her. She does have three consecutive wins including that British. Could that ever mentioned Breeders Cup? Really Nice in both conditions of those forces really hard to pick one of these two air of lights also worth mentioning Walls Abscond. Who ran well in that philly juvenile fillies turf as well so a lot of routes you can go in here. I got flip a coin here because I like both the top courses in this race and it's really hard to choose one over the other so this would probably be race that at the time you know. Could you could decide what you pick by. A coin flip super super deep feels. I mean all fourteen horses in this race. I could give a good good shout. You they all had Elliott one race in their career that would easily On a normal debut winning race here over. It's a tough group. There's going to be worse than eight or nine hundred this race. That probably deserved to win. Love Sharing I think. She's a great philly. I love all GMS. She's also agreeing. Philly. But I'm taking Sean near with a horse that I think has been at an had an knicks of unlucky in a good mix of not being the right racism. I mean she's finally in the spot where he thinks she. Can you know break through at the state level and the ten asked the plate? She's going to be a big long shot but it going back to our to career win last fall at a team. Churchill. Downs so impressive. There was no early speech. Close into and she gained from Can links off the pace in arrays? Churchill off a fifty flat half-mile which is basically walking the dog on the front end and she's still came from death last. Come win that race. Jazzing even been ridden by doing may. Baru wrote her her to win sense then but he does. She does get him back here. A second in the Burbenay hoax like I said that's not on TURF. Which is her preferred surface in addition to having a torrid trip. So I'm making a case against both both sharing an alms here. I don't like the outside post for all I think could be detracting. Her and I don't like sharing off the layoff while grandma's neither necessarily bad off the layoff. It's not always the best angle and I don't know how the weather raises going to set up for her. I do like you're on for second in this spot though but I really just I. I'm hoping to get along in this race where there's going to be a lot of money going to the top to here and for third. I'M GONNA keep I'M GONNA I'm GonNa go with the four to me who who's been really good for Brad Cox Down at the fairgrounds. This this This past winter and spring when he raises from three starts for only lost humming to loads talent from that feeling she just kind of been forgotten with with the likes sharing being around industries and moving onto the races action on the Churchill car before the tap-in is the Shawnee and this brings back the return of the Horse that Eric and I have been talking about for a long time as the one horse that we were waiting to see on the comeback trail before we evaluate. Who the best is this older female division and that is of course Dunbar road. Who last year ransom really big races? Multiple graded stakes winner including the grade one Alabama but she also won the mother goose prior to that win in the Alabama and then also worth mentioning. She ran third in the spinster in her. Start before running in the Breeders Cup. That was a really good third behind to really high caliber. Horses blue price at distaff winner and then a late who went on to run fourth in the Breeders Cup classic so you know obviously running third behind those two horses really nice effort virtues. Fifth in the Breeders Cup distaff behind again for really nice horses midnight blue. The aforementioned blueprint is midnight. Zoo as well as Sarah. Getting and Personalities Candy those four horses all really caliber High-calibre horses but Dunbar road looks like looks to be a horse. Set The the key Cow Horse. That would improve with age. And you know. She's got all all the things in her basket to be able to do well on here. One of the worst that I would like to mention his She's a Julie who runs some really nice races at Churchill in the past. She's had some. Some good races ran third in the Florida. Liz last year Churchill. She's won several graded stakes. Here she runs well here. Chocolate kisses those also run some good races in the Passo Dunbar. Road ought probably would be you. Consider her the best source in here. But she's not a slam dunk by any means. And you can definitely take shot against her in here with with in addition to choose a Julian chocolate kisses amas another horse that you could could could conserve taking a shot at Dunbar road with but Dunbar road to me has been the horse. I've been waiting to come back on this trail so I gotta take on our road here. I've been waiting for her. I think this Sir spot and I'm the I'm going to go against her just because the layoff does concern me Chad. Brown horses haven't been performing at the level. You'd expect to Chad Brown horse to run off the layoff just to just point this year while I do think Dunbar road is probably the best horse race. I do think the way up. In the fact that there's only one truth view horse in this race in it is she also coming off a layoff But she she's done well with timing between races and four both of her Her probably your biggest wins in the Bioko in the lodge trillion came August slight layoffs or I mean between the Zia Park Bill and the by who was a former layoff so she knows how to have time between races in and still bring her game. She's also been working pretty consistently since the beginning of March to get ready for this race or I met in a race around this time I I mean Ricardo Santana's should never a bad a bad play at Churchill down to track that she does love. You want a great one here. Last year in multiple mutually just. She's going to be alone on the leaf and as long as we don't have any unexpected as factors. I expect her to run. Well another thing to also consider she she this races out of my own sixteen which honestly might be her best teams like that extra sixteen mile is what what could cost her her life for raises so perhaps that cutback and distance. We'll do her well. Don Boroughs obviously GONNA run. Well I know she'll make the top three and I'm gonNA keep Emma around For Third I liked her in the apple blossom as a long shot back and go well but she has a nice raises before suggests she'll she'll be able to compete at least for replacing spot the next race in the two racist for males on this card aside from the The Matt Win. The other to the war chant and the blame. These are both wide open races and specifically this blame. Stakes is very wide open. There's not a none of the leading horses in this older division argued. There's a lot of horses that Are are coming in here. That have run in the stakes races and have not necessarily run the best long-range taty steadily one. That fits the bill. Mr Money was kind of a bit of Dodd in his you know he Iran some Nice great great three races last year. He was kind of a dot in his last start. Diamond Kings also here diamond kings. Run some some good race in the past. Oh Dale ran second in the Clark. He strikes as a type of horse that could win especially with this being Churchill. But you know there's just not anyone in here that you look at and you think that this is a worse that it is going to come in here. Real bang-up race again. You know Mr Mutton. Money was very consistent last year but his most recent racist the British Cook Dirt Mile and in the Oakland stakes. He's been seventh and sixth. Oh unveil he's just never the type of horse that I'm super confident in picking but Brad Cox and floor. Andrew always a great combination. They've they've done a lot of damage this year he owned. Ill It is worth mentioning is also coming off from that Clark so Definitely layoff is a bit of a turnoff here. Global Campaign is another horse it e-. It ran a really nice race at Gulfstream on allowance on the twenty fifth of April. But he got going back in the history of his stakes race is going back to July and May of last year. The Jim Dandy the piano on the payment. Who is starting the Jim Dandy and you know he just hasn't had the the load of work so and you know snapper Sinclair's another `nother horse in here. Steve asmussen obvious had the history successor. Churchill but snapper Sinclair's been all over the place who's third in the razorback second in the Essex but then ran eight and the Oakland Miles. So you know you don't really know what you're going to get with snapper sinclair here Long shot again another horse. You was third in that race in the allows recent future in the allowance race That was a on the Oakland car that was won by endorse. That has been that was kind of basically a stakes race up but he was fourth in that race. And you know he's just another horse that you don't know what you're GonNa get with long range tiny so there's a lot worse than here you don't know what you're going to get It's a very wide open race. Owen deals probably the best horse injuries. But he is off the off but I'll swallow the layoff. I'll swallow the fact that he's going to be the favorite and I'll take the onus racing though. I don't really see a lot of positive factors about Owen. Dale and I'M GONNA have to agree with Jack on that just because I one one thing I do. Think about years I into mischief and we've seen I mean there's there's a couple of outliers but only initiates are probably going about a mile a mile. Six hundred horses obviously be going much much longer distances than that but now includes back and he's he's done pretty well at this distance and I'm excited to see what he's able to do here also helps that. There's going to be a ton of early speed on your. You have the floor always mining who loves to BE ON LEAD LONG-RANGE TATY. A At least in his last race showed a lot early speed so I would be proud to do that as well as fast kind of the same tactics. The the biggest speed backers are going to be snappers sinclair and diamond to the outside diamond. King needs to be a front. But he's not going to have an easy like he usually does and Snapper sinclair every time you runs in a in a dirt race. At least of going a mile is near the lead so tons of early speed. Presences need me. Nita course. Coming from knocked pays own-goal dusted the bill. He's run some big races and I do like the cutback in distance. Even though he's probably GonNa be well bad news spots. I do have one more thing. I do kind of like as a long shot but nine extraordinary Gary. He's also coming up however he's performed very well every time he's come off a layoff in even more so he loves the MILE. He's a Jew wins. enforced starting a mile races but also tired of the biggest thing about it is Last night he won by ten in a in a Florida bred raised renting huge huge figure in that rates off another wins at Saratoga before that this is first start for a new trainer however German magner is is pretty high percentage of especially with horses off of so. I just like him I think he's he's runs some really nice races at this distance and the pace is going to set up offering come running. I don't think he might win it but definitely nice outside. Longshot. Play for third all American anthem. Because you know he's ran back really nice races up in New York and I think Dan jurgens starting to really figure out what this horse needs though. He's a six year old with a lot of experience hard so the next. We'RE GOING TO SKIP OVER THE MATT. Win and go on and talk about the war chant. We'll come back and do some solid horses in this race. That headline out. Billy Batts is the first one on billy. Batts was second in the Breeders Cup turf behind structure last year. You also have field pass. Who in his most recent start won the Jeff Ruby? A TURF WAY. He's get back on the grass of her son. Like I've mentioned in the past horses that can run on those synthetic another twist of fate. I know those. Those are two completely different sources. Another twist of fate always struck me as grass roots and he ran a really nice race synthetic Golden Gate and I would not be surprised in here to see Fueled passing ran that nice race in Jeffrey. Become back here and run really well in a race like the war champ again. This is another another wide. Open race lottery routing. There's a lot of shots you can take in here. You know this another type of research you look at it and you say. I don't know who I'm going to go with. Because the favourite probably is definitely has a potential to get beat. So lot of routes. You can go very very wide open. Like I mentioned and Eric Probably GonNa have a long shot to go within here. I'll take one of those two Billy batts or pass but again you know I I make mention here longshot. Play take take a shot in here because this is definitely race it you take a shot in. I take favorites a lot. More than the average handicapper does saw that. That's just my two cents on. That is a wide open race like an obviously wide open raises are much more fun to try to figure out a winner especially the pays off a horse. Al always dazzled me this this Winter fairgrounds was honest for Brad Cox. Three straight wins All on the grass down there and the the big knock on him is going to be a fact that you really hasn't been much of anything out to five four steals but he's handled so nicely and if he can replicate those performances he's GonNa have to deal with some pressure on the front something he hasn't necessarily done in his last three was but if he's able to handle it classy horse if he can handle it he he could very well not so much steeler but hang around despite that pressure golfing exact in here because the other that was also really impressed with was pixel and he's actually a stakes winner on the grass and his in the money in his last four starts all in stakes races at ease. Really just getting beat by horses either. Get better tips than or Either get better tricks that can were probably just better on the day. Herodotus being one of them but Majora sorry is a board obviously can't go wrong to El Rosarito and He always comes running late no matter the pace in front of himself. Pick slate on per second for me in third. I will say billy. That's a his. His grassroots is obviously much better than that lasts. Dirt race in I think the miles probably going to be his destiny for the rest of his career tote if he can you know a good stockton trip? He'll be there late no matter what and the final race ligaments that we're going to get to on the Churchill downs card. Wasn't that win again? Eighty-five Derby points for grabs fifty for the winner in mention start. This does bring back the return of Max Field You know I think everyone like I mentioned the beginning. Everyone's pretty much under the especially with how poorly that Breeders Cup juvenile field. Turn out. Pretty sure it's a universal opinion that Max `field would have won that race by a lot of lengths and basically would have had the rest of field begging for mercy in that You know but he. He is off a layoff but aside from that he's been working good lot sign show. That McAfee is going to be in store for big year here. The one problem with him in years that there is not much speed. The only real speed factor in this race would be the number six New York traffic now. New York traffic did run a really good race in Louisiana Derby last at two run second but that race was kind of merry go round race that feature the one to going on the lead the entire time so I I could see a situation where he gets where maccesfield get stuck in a situation not having a paste run into that also factors into another horse major fed who was second in one in the division of that was won by modernist and was four last. Start out in the Louisiana Derby. He did not have a pace to run into at all and he close really nice to get four. That was really impressive for for him to close from last to fourth in that race with having zero pace to run into. He's another one that is dependent on a good pace trip And if it doesn't pan out which there's a possibility it could not fan out then there would definitely be problems with him there but you know maximum is GonNa be the big horse in here There's some other horse in here that I know. Eric wants to mention but Chino. I can't go against Max `field because of how impressive he was last year. The two year old The one concern to concerns a layoff and the pace but I'm going to swallow Lavenham. Swallow the pace and I'm going to go with McAfee here. Just because I know that he has all the talent in the world and I've always said Makhdoom probably in in the conversation to be with I guess heart top four. Tis The lost an adult Charlotte authentic. I think he's in that I guess you could make in the five and that's your top five and you can put them in anywhere. I think he's that good but the layoff does worry me. That's the biggest thing Brennan. Walsh's I mean. He's a born in Ireland but he he's he's trading packets are also somewhat European in a sense that Horses do kind of a kind of likes to raise Manuchehr next. Don't very goodness I. Two races of beaten some really nice horses. Even in his debut horse that ran third accession. Almost one the rebel up but he has also had the benefit of not necessarily fast pace is not slow paces to close into. And that's definitely been helping him. And I think that with the with the way that the pace shaping up this race where it's going to need to take an outsider to go. Try to set nearly pace. I think New York traffic just kind of not not necessarily unbeatable. But it's hard to go against him. I mean he's getting back into a mile and a sixteenth which based off his editor he might be of might not even be a ten furlong horse and he still runs super well not Louisiana. Derby last time out to finish second of in is his first win. This year was was so nice. Almost seven lengths Arrays where he kinda got ideal conditions alone on the lead. He did what he needed to do in that race so if he can do that again he's he's going to be very tough to be but Jackson major just a moment ago and how. Well he rallied in Louisiana Derby. That was basically handles by you. If he's able to close into that race he still finished fourth and he's only when today he was coming from way back in a race. Where the three quarters went in one fourteen and three for an eight and a half. That is ridiculously slow. So you major picking closer to that. I have fitting clothes into anything. He does have a run over the Churchill obedient lost but not loss so I being major feds GONNA be coming late in. Terms of a horse for third pneumatic He's GONNA touch on a couple of horses. I'm not including my top three but I think are very good horses. You might just be a little over gay rent so nice winning allowance race last time now and be You beat a Nice New York bred stakes winner name captain bombastic and honestly probably one of the better allowance race performances. We seen from a three year old this year. His pedigree says he's only GonNa love more and more distance Greco Santana's abby said in one other thing about this horse. When he broke his maiden the horses have been second. Third vote came back to win to break. They're made Internet scarves school factor. I think one by at least six or seven lakes at Oaklawn in Liam's pride who won by think four five at Oaklawn in their next door so a lot of backlash of even though they might have choices they been running while the horse he'd be some other words is to consider horse. I may be a little bit over. But the one guy to filing to winner on the day down to the fair rounds a huge figure a easy easy one. Really second time out He's a Nice Horse. And honestly if you can get over. The fact hasn't really about two months. And if you can get over the fact that he's only one broke his maiden His works are right. Up there physically. He's he's one of the best in this crop. I think and pedigree by Ghost. Apparat of grade one winning their music note. Who IS BREEDERS Cup placed? It's hard to not like that horse there Just maybe not not today for me and then you one other words GonNa touch on a shake. Some action the nine Yet a horrible trip in the Louisiana Derby but before that to really nice winds at the fairground. So if you can draw a line throughout Louisiana Derby you're looking at a horse with two straight wins of very impressively overseas pretty solid horses. Really Good Group. I that's pretty obvious by how much we talked about it up and you know I win. This race was first given. Derby points have been skeptical ten points. I'm like yeah. That's probably deserving. Bumped it up fifteen. I'm like released on race book looking at this. It's very well deserved all right. So in addition to all the stakes at Churchill downs that we just talked about. We are now going to be moving on and talking about to the races on Saturday at Santa Anita those being the Daytona five at half five half furlong sprint on turf and then the Wittingham Turf Race. Also to Turf races winning ham at a mile and a quarter. We're going to start with the Daytona get to that. That's got a couple of horses in Europe Wild Jacka last start out and Dubai rent a really nice race broke the track record. You freaked in that race if you will. You also got sister on. Who's coming back off? A decent layoff hasn't reached raced since March twenty first. Sorry about that but going back in his last couple starts he has one Including the great one being crosby that was on dirt del Mar but he ran the San Simeon. Last start out also going back to still back farther into two thousand nine hundred also on the cone of gold on the twentieth grade too. So he's run some good races. In addition him you also got Texas Wedge. Who has run? Some good racist us has to to to this year winning the Joe Hernandez on New Year's Day at Santa Anita as well as the world trouble down at Gulfstream on Paces World Cup day and then you must have got a couple of other worse than here. Blame it on the laws a five year old. Who's been around for a while as well as sparky Ville so a lot lot worse than the situation? Go with very intriguing race and like I mentioned sort of a wide open race but in a lot of these folks are going to be coming back off snow. I don't WanNa say long layoffs but decent enough layoff so layoffs are kind of really evenly spaced around this and that's not really going to be reason. Why certain doesn't win the race but You know wide open lot of ways to go in here in the layoff thing is is not going to be an excuse for many orces for any ores in this race because none of brand eaten over two months when this race is run on Saturday a handful Exit San Simeon on March twenty first and now is their last race and you have a couple that wants this year and a couple that haven't even made a star in two thousand twenty so it's really a wide open race in a what will benefit you looking for horse that has come up slightly off performed well before. Likes His throne the five he won the sense in in his last star. That was a layoff from July of the year before when he won other bing crosby so And you don't really nice win streak and he's really cool in the in the sense that he can go back and forth on on turf and dirty need turf starts in his career but he is a grade. One winner on the dirt. And he's of also another graded stakes on it as well. So a talented horse is his strong In terms of the pace is thin honestly since they switched to the five and a half. Furlong Sprints I. It's really fast as horse wins so hard issue. A horse coming from off the pace to winning In his race the perfect example is the British up turf sprint. From last year with the War Bay. Who broke broke. Records for the fraction. She sat and carried that speed. And that's kind of thing we've been seeing at Santa Anita in these sprint race. And say stop using the downhill turf course Towards the end of I guess last year I like to strong in the spot. Light the layoff angle wild. Jack was so impressive that made on last time out. But he is coming back and that is a little concerning. I also think he might be a worse. May even be a better mileage than anything Sure he's done. Find sprinting but Based off that last race he gotta you gotTa have some sprint ability and then Texas Wedge I. I wouldn't be surprised as Kim. Go off. Favorite is on a on a Jewish win streak and he's won three of the last four including the Joe Hernandez and he does love the grass. So it's a it's a really deep race. That's that's the biggest thing I just think. Strong is going to be able to do well in here because he does have so much natural early speed. That will be able to go all the way. Your one more horse I'd like to touch on is the to stubbins A really good for the Breeders Cup terse rent last year in flaming at nothing. Nothing going for the top of the stretch was last when they came off. Turn and He had nowhere to go. And that's why. But he still rallied really well to get forth. He is graded stakes winner. He took the WOODFORD team timeout out. He's GonNa come running late but It's trying to beat in this race moving onto the final race that we're gonNA talk about On this episode. Which is the Wittingham the Charlie Wittingham at Santa Anita? Mild a quarter on turf and this will bring back bricks bricks and mortar second-place finisher second place in the bricks and mortar breeders. Cup Turf. I should say which is united and united ran. I guess you can call the race of his life in that Breeders Cup turf behind the your bricks and mortar since gone onto runs second. The Hollywood Turf Cup has posted a win. But you know it's really you don't know where where it's going to go with United He like I mentioned did when the San Marcos but this is a much better spot for him then the race that he would have been potentially running in by the cancellation benefited him. One of the few horses that was benefited by that. Because I don't think united was going to be able to go across the ocean and win especially made on against the type of horses and he was going to be running against rock emperors and other good works when the Chad Brown born Very tempting here. Multiplier gets back on the grass on starts out. He ran less week and he ran an allowance race at Santa Anita and Prior to that was second the sanity handicapped so all of the place with him as what he's been on but like I mentioned. United is probably another one of those vulnerable favorites He's had the couple of big efforts especially in the Breeders Cup. But you know it's just a question of where is he going to be because he has shown a hint of inconsistency and you know he hasn't really run a race against the caliber of forces that he's that ran against the Breeders Cup He hasn't shown to do that very often. So it's really a question of what you're going to get from united in this spot here and whether or not any of the other horse in here are enticing enough to take a shot at him against him with the big thing with with this race is that you only have two horses that are proven over this surface and this distance And it is united and rock emperor. They're going to be your too heavy favorites Everything points to them being the top two in this rates rock emperor. I mean I. Something must've been off your favorite in the Saratoga Derby last year Jim when to be fair That race was kind of a merry go round race with the threat of blue going wire-to-wire there and then he came back an immunity just fine but that race was way to shore porn. He's he's he's only one two times in a career and Both of them were at a mile. An eight which you know which was over in France and in France a mile and an eighth is probably a little bit closer to an American mile and a quarter And then he also wanted. Milen quarter race over in France In his best American-run was also at ten for in the Derby. So He's definitely going to appreciate the distance however that the weird thing about the Mile and a quarter on the grass Starting point is it's downhill from from the break it's downhill and we've seen a lot of times in raisins like that forces you don't usually Who WHEN GET STIFF MY OWN QUARTER OUT OF TRACK? Belmont are able to to carry that Day at the SPA is probably the biggest one I can think of even in the Philly in mirror going back to last year horse like era. Desa PROBABLY BETTER. Meyler bill because of that Santa Anita Start is able to get a bit of a solid run-up to kind of save some energy that does point horse like the six original air who At a mile and an eighth one and allowance by five lengths at Santa Anita last time out and does have Umberto Rissoli who is writing the standing needed. Per Course as good as has in the history of Santa Anita. You've been on fire there Since since coming here in at the beginning of this year so I think Even the top two united in rock emperor or the most proven They're also not the best horse in the world and you have a horse like originator. Who's been running some pretty good races? getting a little bit more distance which might just be Something he needs. He's run probably best races. The longer you've been allowed to go Good connections right now. So originator I think is going to be able to pull off the upset but Outside of him You have your your to talk toys. United in Rock Emperor. That'll be easy trifecta for you right there. No matter which way you play it so like I did mention that. That was the last reason we're going to talk about. The shoemaker mile is being run this weekend on Memorial Day Monday but we will not be able to cover that at least on this episode. We will be releasing a youtube for that on Friday. So keep a lookout for that Shoemaker Mile Preview. The other thing we wanted to talk about is the big news. This week was that the New York Racing Association did put out the Their stake schedule for the Belmont. Meet which is going to be basically an abbreviated Over the course of month they're they're going to get most of their stakes races that they usually have not everything is going to be in the way that it traditionally Is a normal year. Most of the races will be happening at that point. Some of them have been moved to different times. A bit notable one that wanted the Belmont oaks will be run. It's looks like in the September timeframe so All indications are that that turf triple series is still happening but you know. Obviously the big story was the fact that the Belmont stakes is being run on June twentieth and is being shortened to a mile and an eighth and Eric and I have a both have big opinions on. You know the the decision that was made and both of us are in complete agreement that the change to a mile island eighth from a mile and a half had to be done for multiple reasons and a lot of people on twitter specifically have been complaining about the the decision that it's not gonna be a traditional Belmont stakes in whatever all things considered you know. Here's the thing about the New York racing so she they're not stupid people have been asking. Why couldn't they run it at ten furlongs? Or why couldn't they just wanted a mile and a half anyone? Who if you've ever watched Breeders Cup of Belmont Park before or you can just even look at the Jockey Club Gold Cup? That's not the best indication because the Jacket Gold Cup doesn't always have full full fields. But if you've ever watched Breeders Cup classic at Belmont Park a mile and a quarter race at Belmont is a nightmare and that be Belton near New York racing association new that and that was the last thing that they wanted to have. I can guarantee you that that was lacking they wanted to have was a mile and a half race where you know. It's all a lot of it is dictated on what gate positions a certain more skits and things like that so. I just speculating here. I don't have any inside information on this but I'm pretty sure that IRA considered the MILENA quarter and they threw that out immediately. Because you know it's all dependent on a lot of times amount of quarter Belmont depending on where you're getting the starting gate and you know a lot of people would be very reluctant to have that and you know you wouldn't want to be in a situation of losing horses because you know having it would have been a fourteen field and up having five or six verses stretch out of it because trainers didn't like where there certain position was so number one that's why they can have it them out. Amano quarter decision to shorten it in in total is made because that you know we have to keep in mind. We haven't gone a mile and a quarter yet with most of these three year olds. I know wells. By you and Louisiana. Derby horses went a mile and three sixteenths. But you know realistically. Most of these courses are a lot of these. I we'RE GONNA be coming off along. Layoffs had a lot of them have not run physically Florida. Derby worse like this law have not run since the end of March Arkansas. Derby horses haven't run since May I may. I may second but that is still going to be that. That's still a long lay-off horses that have not had a race. That will be starting them on a half. So you know that's why that decision was made and you know you could make the argument. What about the Peter Pan Horses? Jump the Peter Pan to the Belmont. That's fine you can say that. But here's the thing. A lot of people. A lot of people did not want to have that long. Layoff AND JUMPING RIGHT INTO AMOUNT. Half Ray so. I can definitely see the decision that was made for that and also the fact that if they had kept it a mile and a half running running into the situation where a lot of people now the conspiracy theories of already showed up that Bob Baffert had a lot to do with this New York. Risk Association was going to do this. Whether or not Bob Baffert opened his mouth if anyone saw something that Randy Moss from NBC. He mentioned it a couple of weeks before the Arkansas Derby. So this has been a discussion long before Bob Baffert even opened his mouth. So you know you can go and say that the conspiracy theories can say that Bob Baffert behind this. That's not true. The New York Racing Association. They made the decision that they had to make because regardless of the decision that they were make going to make. I should say it was going to. You're going to run into the situation about happy people either. You'RE GONNA have a mile and a half race. That was his law and a bunch of horses that have no business being a race which is a law or a mile and an eighth race to draws a much better field that you know the the complaints would come in that. It's not the traditional. So the they're making the best out of the bad situation and unfortunately we're just going to have to deal with this year. So that's my take on it. I I'll let Eric give his two cents on it. But ultimately the right decision was made. I agree with Jackie touched on pretty much. Every point that I was thinking about the biggest thing for me is that people would seem shocked when when this news broke yesterday as if this wasn't expected I mean a couple of weeks ago I mentioned on one of our shows that there was not Bob Baffert idea to move the Belmont to nine along anymore. Moss said it in in Leyton in I believe late March or early April that this was a very strong possibility. So the fact that Eight people just you know didn't seem to you know here to his words and be the fact people think it's it's Bob average ideas beyond me second off. We're getting such a better race. No NOBODY WANTS TO RUN THEIR HORSE. A mile and a half off of two months layoffs off of only a mild in eighth race to prep for it. That's not gonNA happen. It's it'd be such a week group would be I made the Jogi. Tis The law. Because they're connection said they still run on my own half it'd be to the loft and a bunch of plotters that seemingly see from the todd pletcher born every year like intrepid heart last year. That's the kind of wars is we'd be seeing in in this race. New would not be any fun when you have a mile and an eighth at dawn when I think one of the purest of jurist raise Know distance on a track. You have in the United States. 'cause you know the only you can really have is breaking so badly you have no way of coverage it's about you know five and a half six furlongs to that for to the far turn Plenty of time to work out a good trip. Best Horse Wins. Nine out of ten times that distance that surface. It's much easier. We're GONNA plus. I know people are mad by bathroom for you. Know obviously misguided reasons but we wouldn't have gotten those those horses facing a horse like choose the law without distance change. That's super exciting. The fact we're GONNA seen it all in Charleston face off against Tis The law in people were upset about nothing in Charlotte. Because the Arkansas Derby split will now you have it so be grateful for that? There's a lot of people kind of overreacting 'cause traditions broken. To listen it was broken. The day Churchill downs announced that September third was the new Derby Day. We knew was going to be either in June or July or it was going to be in October that that was not new news to anybody. I is really just kind of like an overreaction. I'm a traditionalist myself in in racing. I don't like seeing a lot of change in spore put. This is a this is a welcome change in the last thing. I want to say. Listen I love that the of and a I love that as the test of a champion. But when you watch that race you have your first three or four top horses finishing pretty well and then you have the other six or seven getting you know beaten so badly. They're not GONNA be able to run again in a couple of months because their confidence is so low and and they're just so tired. It's not like all you know. Ten twelve horses entered every year actually finished the race because they like the mile and a half. It's because they gave up three furlongs ago when they're just having a finish the race out it's I I enjoy watching the Belmont but at the same time. How many times do we really see a horse? Actually enjoy that mile and a half in the film aunt there. It's it's fine to keep it at that. Distance put be happy. We're going to actually competitive race. Where at least most horses are GonNa WanNA finish the race? So that's my ten cents in for Info agreeance with Nyra make changing and the other point that I wanted in on just just listening to what Eric said is an October Belmont. Would obviously coincide with a potential Breeders Cup and the preakness is also being run on October. Third I can't remember whether or not we were able to cover that last week but I actually believe that we have not covered that so the preakness will be run on October. Third so you know that's the other thing and people were complaining about that. How you know PIMLICO screw people over with not running it in some time like July or August or something like that that the thing that I will say is the strategy group kind of missed the boat a little bit and also they were trying their best to stick with tradition. But you know you're not gonNA make one hundred percent of people happy so ultimately they made the best out of the bad situation and you had to run the Belmont in June when the when the Strana group came out and said that they were going to run the preakness on October third. Because you don't WanNa have to put the Belmont in a situation or you don't WanNa put horses in a situation to choose the Belmont or choose a Breeders Cup because nine out nine times out of ten. Most of those horses are going to be choosing the Breeders Cup because it's a mile quarter and you will have like Iraq said a horse probably. Tis Law would have probably been the only horse that I the only connection that I could think would forego Breeders Cup for a traditional as traditional as you could have had triple crown with a you know running in the Derby running in the preakness and then you know running a Belmont. Probably say the last weekend. October October thirty first time. I don't exactly know what the calendar is something like that. And then you know there's a lot of bunch of Eric said plotters so it's really the best of a bad situation. Prekaz and October had to happen. Pimlico seem very early on that they were going to try to run after the Derby and if they had wanted to run earlier that kind of missed the boat on that with the other tracks announcing their stake schedules. And you know like we said really wasn't anything they could do. I wouldn't have wanted to make the decision. Be The person making the decision that are made but they made the decision and we should just be happy that we're going to get a better race out of it. Then we would have gotten at this point so you know. Traditionalist people can be upset conspiracy. Theories can be upset. But that's honestly the way that it's going to work out and I think on June twentieth when we have the what's could probably end up being the rest of the year between a Doll Charlotte Tis law and whatever other horses. Decide to come to Belmont. I think people will forget about the fact that the Belmont was running a mile in eight hundred twentieth. That's just my two cents but you know regardless of what you think. That's it for this week. We will see you on Youtube. For preview of not only the shoemaker. Mind but also preview. The Matt Win that will be Matt Win. One will be out tomorrow. In the shoemaker mile will be out when we had the entries side from that. We'll see you next week and good luck with races.

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Richard Mandella Interview - April 27, 2019

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

08:26 min | 1 year ago

Richard Mandella Interview - April 27, 2019

"All the payment. Richard Mandella looking for his very first derby win he settled so many big winners. Maybe next Saturday's the day. He gets that elusive Kentucky Derby, and he's with us now here on the horse racing radio network, Richard thanks for the time. I know it's a busy morning for you. Pleasure. Beer, loved what we saw from Omaha beach. It's morning what a pretty horse. He's he's a gorgeous horse and great temperament. And he'll work. Exactly. As you. Ask him to do. You want him? Go fast. He'll do that. We wanna go easy. He'll do that is makes my job pretty easy. The reports were that the final time of today's work was fifty nine flat for the five furlongs is that what you got him into. I I signed take off and I signed finish on the other side. Can't clock horse because of all the hoopla I had planned to watch him go off. And then I thought I'll go into the Clockers booth. There's a TV in there. And when I wasn't on him. Well, they visit. I've seen a video look good. Yeah. I could've stayed home in California. We have been here all week with them talk about what this this past. Few days have been like few coming back here to Churchill Downs again. Well, that's good. Several friends mentioned they were happy. I got out off off a year early with good behavior. It's it's it's always exciting to be here. And to have a horse like him really makes it special. Yeah. He's a he's a horse that. It was a little slow to come around. But once he came around. He's just the meteoric rise to stardom talk about that a little bit. Yeah. He's always been a gorgeous horse got a great pedigree behind it would work very well up to his first race not be a show off. But if we asked him he'd do it. And then after we ran him after each of the first couple of races. It's stepped up considerably how he focused and and. The time. I'd gotten him beat a couple of times. I realized I bear switch over to the dirty been working. With it really seemed to be the the key to taking things to the next level for this horse. Didn't it it. It's seems like that and say in that I I still think he'd be a good grass horse. I think what it was kind temperament and just so easy going. I think it took a few races to bring the warrior out at him. And I think we've done that. What will the next few days be like for him as we lead up to the Kentucky Derby, that'd be quiet. He just had plenty work and just random the Arkansas derby. So he'll have a day off tomorrow next day. We'll see what the weather's doing. He'll have some Gallup's before he runs, and that's about it. Were you looking for that sharp of a work this morning? I knew he would. Yeah. And I purposely plan to have one good work a week out. I've actually done that the last couple of races. And and it's been a good five eight. Actress three quarters and ten at most. It's like five eight hundred fifty nine different race track. Yeah. But but anyway, he needed a good work because he's a growing healthy horsey carries little weight. And I thought it would do him good and cooled out in five minutes. So I think we did good Richard Mandella hall of Famer he is with us here on the horse racing radio network, Omaha beach, but to go to the post next Saturday and the run for the roses, Richard. When you think about the other six trips that you've made here with your other starters thing when when you think back on those moments, what are some of the moments that really stand out to you about those other derbies. You didn't have to bring that. He knows you fifteen years. Off one year early for good. How about the first one? I learned that way over there. Yeah. About the first one in eighty four with bedouin that for a little foolish. I'd never been to Churchill Downs or or the derby, and he was a superior mutter and all week. I was reading about rain and rain, and it's gonna rain, and I thought man he likes the mud I'm going to and I think he'd like amount of quarter. So I had the silly idea to get here and running in the mud as Churchill Downs within two hours at turned into fast race track. He didn't get mud and he got muddy. I don't wanna talk about bedouin. Later. Yeah. I claim to mafia. He and win the race in three years. Dan. I forgot that. I shouldn't have I actually forget you were so nice about it to somebody called on a on a television program. It's an either you were you guessed of sandy to show that they used to run Mondays and Tuesdays and somebody called and mention the fact that I claim the horse and eventually won with you were you were so nice to me you are. So, you know, just matter of fact about the whole thing didn't didn't hold the garage. And you said you were happy for the horse, and I've never forgotten that all I could have won the Oscar for that. He was a nice horse Mars. Gray horse. Yeah. Hell I didn't know nothing about the derby L, just take it. You know, he he became the first horse that ever paid off a million dollars to a customer. I know the guy that somebody hollered at me that they'd want the pick six on him once. Yeah. That was that was the thing. I think it was actually the big nine you had to pick all crazy. So he he had some famous moments. Reporter was with us in the last segment, and he had some very nice things to say about you. And b Wayne Hughes as well who he credits is saving his life when he was going through all of his cancer treatments. And he got him up to Boston talk about this relationship that you have with Rick porter. That's it's we've had a lot of fun. I met him when he asked me to take Balla Balla horse from Brazil that was very good horse had some problems before he ever got to train here. But as it turned out it turned out pretty good. And and we got to be friends over that. And then he sent me a couple of two year olds two years ago. And we did all right. And then this year last year, he sent me a couple more two year olds in this one of them. So we've built a pretty good friendship. Now couple about a month ago. I said, you know, we ought to just get walkie-talkies. We're going to be on the phone. So we have had a lot of fun. He's got a great sense of humor. And and truly loves the game. Couldn't be better. And he would love to win it next Saturday. No doubt. He's been second. A couple of times he talked about how difficult this racist to win. Why is it so difficult to win this race Richard figure that out? Well, what makes it so hard to win? It's gosh. I mean, you see a guy like Bob Baffert who's won it five times. And you say, well, it's not that hard. And then you see somebody like you and Bill Maat two of the greatest trainers at the sports ever seen and to get over that hump a win this race. It's tough. We're not going to think about that. He loves I keep bringing this up. And he'll he'll never come back. Retirement tax. We're just gonna walk over there. Singing, mama. Don't let your babies turn out. Just outstanding in such a talented horse in Omaha beach that Arkansas derby, I I said, Richard if they went around again, he might not let let improbable by him that day 'cause he was so game. Did did you feel the same way? I didn't even think about that. I just live in the glory. Live in the glory. He's doing that now. And hopefully, he'll be on top of the world next Saturday here at Churchill Downs. Richard is always appreciate the visit, my friend. Appreciate it. This is a fun show to do. Yeah. Thank you for stuff. Yeah. Oh, good. Luck to go. Get it done. All right.

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Out of the Gate Episode 90 - Breeders' Cup Saturday Edition

Daily Racing Form

57:11 min | 2 years ago

Out of the Gate Episode 90 - Breeders' Cup Saturday Edition

"I everybody welcome out of the gate daily racing forms weekend. Handicapping preview program. I'm Dan omen. Thanks so much for watching. Here's what's coming up in this week's edition of out of the gate. It's our second out of the gate this week. And we have got you covered for Breeders Cup. Saturday deli racing form handicappers Matt Bernier might beer, and I will take a look at the nine Breeders Cup races at Churchill Downs on Saturday. And we've got lots lots more for you, Nicole Rousseau's pedigree, pick segment focuses on the x factor in the Breeders Cup. Classic roaring lion. As he makes his debut at a mile and a quarter Craig mcaliskey's time for US pace. Projector focuses on the sprint. We've got JK's multi-race play the day. David Ghana's time for US spotlight and lots lots more. So let's break out of the gate. Get out of the gate with our first Breeders Cup Saturday race this being the Breeders Cup fillies mayor sprint. Let's take a look at this field. We're going seven furlongs one million dollars is the purse approximate post time noon eastern for expanded stakes previews of all the Breeders Cup races. We talk about every horse in every Breeders Cup race. Visit video dot D. R F dot com or the daily racing form YouTube channel, Mike beer, your top picking this race is a nice long shot play. She missed a little bit of time over the summer with some various problems. But I thought her return and her prep for the filly and mare sprinted Qinglin was very encouraging tell us about Shalom. Yeah. I liked her return from that laugh through Dan. I mean, I feel like she really has improved. When this this is not going to be easy for her. I had enough questions about the two hours. I think are the two best Phillies in the race sell court and Marley's freedom. I think the two best ones I've enough questions about them to try and beat them. Let's look at your loans last races off about a four month layoff. I thought she ran while here. I think she's really. Improved as a four year old for her new trainer. And this may be the best she's ever run off the pace four wide throughout closing down the outside. You're gonna see the winner. Get through to inside there that horse has a little bit of a long shot looking here too. I thought on Justice while as that horse just missing at the end of this, right? And you know, I've been chasing Shalom for a very long time. They'll stables purchaser last November for five hundred fifty thousand dollars public auction. She has been very solid for our daily core. She might get the right pace scenario in this race. Bob Baffert as the horse to beat that. Of course, is Marlies freedom was just been on fire in recent months. And I think she's a must use multiple race wagers. But that is short price. I might want to try to find value. Elsewhere on the wind. I wonder if cell core drifts a little bit because of the inside post position that is not where John Sadler wants to be. Let's go back to her most recent start, and you have to go all the way back to our most recent start. This is March the twenty fourth and that's more freedom eventually finishing second behind sell cord so-called emerged along layoff. Earlier this year with three degrees in southern California and stamped herself the leading filly and mare sprinter in the country. And then as is the case with cell cords throughout her career. She had her share a physical problems. They wanted to run her in the Humana. Distaff she didn't make that race. They wanted to run around the beholder mile. She didn't make that race. They wanted to run her in the Rancho Bernardo she didn't make that race. A lot of bone bruising was supposedly the cause for absence. She returns elongated layoff for John Sadler. A trainer that does very well off layoffs. I'm not worried about the layoff. I'm worried about the inside post position. Because if she's going to win this race she's going to have to work hard from start to finish. But I do think from what we just saw. She has the talent to do it. I think sell cord is very dangerous in this race trying to go to the front from the inside post and hope that you drift just a little bit off that night to morning line. Our colleague Matt Bernier is down at Churchill Downs covering the Breeders Cup races for the NBC telecast, let's see who he likes in the Breeders Cup filly and mare sprint. I think. It's a longshot first free just brace on Saturdays. Philly and their sprint. It's not Morley's freedom. If it's not so court. It's anyone as article Ludo shot. I'm here I'm gonna go Kirby's penny. This is a horse ring. Obama in Phoenix. Most recent lease down on the inside whichever way. Jose goes continues to get shut off. I think is a case to be made. He was the best horse in that race that day. He comes here to Churchill Downs where six eight seven times in the exact from eight lifetime starts, you think the pace heats up. I think this thing could set it very very well for limousine liberal. I thought coming into the week that he could be a very very appetizing sort of eight nine to one price everyone I run into down. Here seems to be interested in this. I do fear that he may end up going from that underlay territory in that nine to two range. If that's the case, I'm not nearly as interested, but I still think he is a big chance in here, and perhaps in the multi-race wages ill offer a little bit more valuable limousine liberal in the Breeders Cup spring. Up next on Saturday is the turf sprint at five and a half. Furlongs? Let's take a peek at this field five and a half per longs. One million dollars is the purse card. It is race. Number four. It's the Breeders Cup Turf sprint for expanded sticks previews of all the Breeders Cup races. Plus clock reports from Mike Welch webinars. With Mike watchmaker Brad free in the time form US gang and lots lots more head on over the video duck drrooFcom or the daily racing form YouTube channel, we've got the Breeders Cup cupboard here on D R F T V, Mike disco partner is always dangerous in these turf sprints. But I think if you're trying to make two cases against the source. It's one the distance might be a little bit short for him. And be there's been a lot of wet weather in Kentucky over the last few days. And he might not be at his very best on soft going. Yeah. He's really not getting the weather was certainly hoping for the way things are shaping right now, they're getting a lot of rain down there. He does not like a lot of given the ground. So we'll see. What what happens with him come Saturday, hopefully affirms up at least a little bit for because when he's good. He is very good. Let's look at his last race here, the Belmont turf sprint, this is this is how you know. He's one of the best sprinters in the country, and he kept up close to the pace this time. And he just absolutely blows this field away with a one zero six figure. This is six furlongs. He's not quite as good maybe going five or five and a half. But boy when he's right. He's awful tough. And that's not some bum. He just ran over in pure sensation. That is a legitimately good turf sprint through set a nice pace and look very comfortable turning into the lane and disco porn. It was like a harness source. He sat in the pocket he eased out, and he blew right by we'll see a five and a half is what he gets coming from off the pace is going to need some trip help as well. But if you know he gets a little bit of firm ground. He is going to fire in the stretch. He's that good. Stormy liberal won this race last year at a big big price. He's going to be a mere fraction of that price this year and deservedly so he's been on fire in southern California. Yeah, he's really has. Taken a backward. Step sense winning this race last year. He just keeps running good races. He's won three straight on the way into the Breeders Cup all by short margins. But those margins could be a little deceptive. Let's look at the most recent one he's going to win this one by a head. This is the great three Eddie. He did a lot of chasing here of the horse on the lead. Who's also back in the spot conquest to NAMI, and he's just going to real amend late wins this race relatively easily. I feel like this is a nice performance for this horse. He's another horse who I think you have to worry a little bit about giving the ground. But at least it's worth noting with him. He's run over good ground several times he runs his figures when there's some cut in the ground worth noting that that race in Dubai or this year was not listed firm. And he ran a great race hoping he handles the cut in the ground. He's rock-solid. He might have a little bit more tactical speed than disco partner and should be in the thick of things turning into the stretch, the one they all have to catch however might be world of trouble in when I looked at the turf sprint. I wanted several things I wanted to have speed I wanted to be very prominent turning into the stretch. I wanted upside world of troubles of very. Lightly. Raced three year old I want a great turf sprint trainer. And that's Jason service. Ruled of trouble is now race twice on the turf to dominant victories, albeit against inferior company. Let's take a look at his most recent start the allied forces stakes at six furlongs at Belmont. He's sat off the pace took over from an Overmach longshot turn into the stretch and off to the racist goes winning with a one zero three Beyer speed figure, and as you see by those clumps of kickback. This was a good turf course at Saratoga when he won his debut. It was unyielding ground. So he handles the soft going he handles five and a half. And before he made the transition to terp sprinter world of trouble showed immense promise at shorter distances on the dirt. As a matter of fact, he was the beaten favourite in the Tampa Bay derby at a distance that was a little too far form. I think world a trouble if he breaks might be very tough to catch in the Breeders Cup Turf sprint. I've a feeling Matt Bernier concurs, let's see if he concurs with my reasoning admittedly, the turf sprints not my Cup of tea, but gotta make pick in here. So I'm going to go with the horse that I think the upside. Tremendous, basically what he's already done the racetrack. Particularly on the turf think speaks volumes about his ability. That's world of trouble world of trouble. He's done. Nothing wrong. In those two lifetime starts on turf. And I think it's very very encouraging that run to starts back came over yielding ground at Saratoga. He's probably gonna catch that here in Louisville on Saturday afternoon. I know he's taking on elders always taking on open company really for the first time in his career. But at the same time then outside draw I think he's going to help him. I think he has that ability to get into the run early. But is not absolutely dependent on the lead world of trouble. He's probably not going to be any sort of real solid price. Think he's gonna take some money in here. I believe six to one in the morning line. When be surprised if he goes off in that nine to two range not super thrilled about betting him in this. But to me I like him. I think he has a lot up side. I'm going to go with him in the turf sprint. What's the field for next Breeders Cup race this being the dirt mile, and of course, Churchill Downs in his a one turn dirt mile? One million dollars is the first one sixteen eastern the approximate post time for expanded stakes previews of all the Breeders Cup races. Head on over to video dot D. R F dot com or the daily racing form YouTube channel, Mike the only worse to be able to take down exceleron this year is city of light. He did. So at a mile and an eighth in the Oaklawn handicap, but he has just as affective shorter distances. We saw go gate to wire the prestigious Malibu stakes last year as a three year old. We're going to go back to his most recent start the forego at Saratoga now hit missed some time with little foot problem coming into this race. He is wide coming into the stretch in the worst saved all the ground Whitmore's able to win it. Do you think the ground loss was all the difference could about I mean, it's certainly worth noting that Whitmore just got an absolutely perfect trip in this race. And maybe city of light did not. Although I didn't think city light was necessarily that sharp in this race either. He races on fine here. Can't get anywhere near the source. Just hold on for second. But as you might need miss sometime part of that rice, he was wide. I think he's better than that. Dan. I don't know how much better he is a dual grade. One winner at seven furlongs though, it is another two and a half month layoff, however, presented light and you break. Some a tricky inside post. He does have good tactical speed. And he brings a lot of fast races to the party. You're looking for a little bit of an outsider another horse. That's beaten accelerate in the past. That's giant expectations. Let's be fair Mike when he beat accelerate. He had everything go his own way. Yeah. This isn't necessarily the race. The judge off of all though, it is giant expectations. Fastest race today to one oh, six Beyer speed figure. We can put the replay up right now at the San Antonio, listen. He is not gonna district that he gets here. Loose on the lead on a slow paced not available to him on Saturday. He cannot win the Breeders Cup dirt mile this way. But it's still a good performance. A fast performance he beat a couple of good horses in here. He exited this race World Cup big cap. No chance in either of those races. I thought he came back off the layoff last time at Churchill Downs. I think. I think he met a deceptively good race. He missed the break. He was rated last behind a very moderate pace. He launched four wide into the stretch. He had a look at it. He flattened out late. I thought it was a perfect prep. He can run from off the pace. He's going to be a price in this race. I don't know if it's good enough to win. But I'm gonna use them and try and get them in there. Something a very good case. I look the way he won the Pat O'Brien 2017 where he was pretty wide every step of the way and still finished it off. And I was looking forward to seeing this final prep in the Santa newsprint championship. He was awful in the sand. He went to sprint championship. I don't know what happened was dull. And then he ran on the Breeders Cup the same exact way. But I like the fact that they gave him time. He came back with that good effort. He's going to be a nice price at Churchill Downs on Saturday. The expected favourite however is the undefeated Catalina cruiser for trainer. John sadler. This source one the twenty eighteen addition of the Pat O'Brien I wanted to go back to that race right now. Yes, it was a short field, and he was supposed to win the one two five favourite. But he does it convincingly yet again with another big Beyer speed figure. He's. Four for four. He's never been tested three of those winds of come in triple digit buyer fashion while last year's 2017 Breeders Cup dirt mile winner. Battle of midway was just coming back off the layoff in this spot and wasn't expected to threaten at least was nice to see battle of midway come back to winning ways last week. At Santa Anita Catalina cruiser will now face the toughest test of his career. But I think this outside post position works with him because he has the speed to go to the front if need be and if someone else wants to late most notably city of light. He could sit on the outside. Yes. It's a test. But I think from what we've seen thus far Catalina cruiser is this good. We'll go to Matt's pick, and then we'll head on over to Nicole Rousseau's, pedigree, pick segment where she analyzes roaring lions bloodlines. And then criminal Cousy from time for US projects the pace of the Breeder's Cup sprint when the pre entries came out for the dirt mile. I was going to try to be Catalina cruiser not because they don't think the ability is there because he's going to have to do a lot of things for the first time on Saturdays the ship out of California's probably gonna have to overcome some kind of adversity I figured anyway. Then the post drawn drew just I think an ideal spot for outside from town standpoint. Again, it's there in spades. Could make a case the maybe the most talented horse running on Saturday on the main track. We'll find out again. Maybe it's a little bit off the reservation. But I think that there's a real scenario where the talent is just exceptional. He's gonna need to prove that he can overcome a little bit of adversity and deal with some better horses. But at the same time, I think he works at a perfect stocking trip if the horses to the inside don't wanna go they can certainly go on in Van Dyke and take the initiative and go right to the front. Somebody else down to the inside whether it's trigger warning whether it's city of late with whether they wanna go Catalina crews consist off them and try to make a move as they turned for home going to chalk out in the spun the dirt mile just Catalina Cruz. He's the best source in the race. You're gonna get the best trip. Everyone Nicole Russo coming to you from Louisville Kentucky where one of the biggest names here for Breeders Cup Saturday is roaring lion. He is elected to try Dirk for the first time in the Breeders Cup Classic. The European-based cold is pure American breeding. The Kentucky Brad was one hundred sixty thousand dollar Keeneland September yearling he's by perennial leading turf sire kitten's joy who stands at hill. Farm kitten's joy well represented on the Breeders Cup program actually also currently the leading general sire by year by earnings in North America. Roaring lion is out of a winning street sense. Mayor now roaring lion has won four consecutive group. One events in Europe, he successfully faced older horses. The big question, of course is if he can transfer that format to dirt turf champion kittens. Join the sire Brunner's like turf champion. Big blue kitten in two time winner Stephanie's kin his dirt standouts kind of few and far between those are led by Shalva a three-time grades three winner on the dirt overall. He won nine stakes and placed in six others again, all under very consistent horse. Also, a politically correct when the Oklahoma derby and greet three place tender for kitten's joy doesn't have many dirt runners does well with the average Unity's. He does have. But certainly they haven't been as brilliant as his turf horses for me. The real issue is that roaring lions female family just backs up that turf leaning sire line and doesn't necessarily and the ability. Of course, you see street sense and thinker but dim Vienna. Made only one start on the dirt one synthetic and then right to the turf for the rest of her career. She was great one place in the rodeo drive being less than a length in the lawn. Her damn can't be Corso. Was agreed three winner on earth in a full sister to breeders turf sprint winner, California. Fly she's the Dan of two turf, great two winters and a pair of stakes winners. Now, the church will downs main track has played kindly to horses with turf breeding or form, particularly when it's got some moisture in it, look, horses like animal kingdom, Barbara Hetty product and others in recent years. Learn lions action seems to suit this track watching him train. He's moving well over it. And he's really almost built like American speed. He doesn't look like your typical leggy kitten's joy at all. But this degree. You would think it would be a tall. Order for again, this phenomenally talented horse to transfer his best form to the main track Churchhill downs. Thanks for tuning into all of our breeders have Saturday coverage out of the gate and Diarra TV. Now, let's get you over to Craig with the time for pace projector for this card. This is Craig Makovsky of time for MU s and today we're going to look at the Breeder's Cup. Sprint the seven three spam? Run at Churchill and Saturday, and we're going to look at it from a time for peace project project their perspectives. I was really surprised to see this race when it showed up that the pace projector head the blue flag as you can see in the upper right hand corner on the preview page, and as we'll see when we zoom in on that in a minute, which do just by clicking on the piece for Jeter that indicates it there's not a whole lot of speed nece recently think it's gonna favor horses owner near the early here on the preview page, you can see the running styles reassigned to the horses, and you can see there's very little speed in here. We have one horse listed as leader that's distinctive be seven horse, and then we have promises fulfilled who's actually going to be shown out in front. He's listed as the tracker. He's been able to win on the lead. And from just off the lead. He's also running some longer races. He won a crippling the derby. Trailer earlier in the year item island sixteen so those are about it. The rest are all listed as closers mid packs. So now what you get in your typical Breeder's Cup sprint. Let's take a closer look at that piece projector and here you can see the label that it should favour horses owner near the early lead. And somebody question why is the two in front of the seven when we have the seven listed as a speech leader over September. We likes to get the lead, and that is simply because our early speed ratings also involved velocity, we wanna know how fast Indies horses run and looking at the pace figures, and if you scroll through and look at the fractions, and we do it just in fractions at time for US. You'll see the promises fulfilled is just been the faster or even when he wasn't in the lead ease been running faster. It goes back. I mentioned this horse set the pace in the Kentucky, Derby fairy fast up east that day in this over the sloppy surface. The big question is is. Promises fulfilled. Good enough. Just because you have a piece advantage doesn't mean that you're going to win the race. Just like if it's a fast pace that doesn't necessarily set up for clues IRS. So we'll take a look at his past performances. Then we'll see that he's been very very good. Sprinting he went in the Amsterdam he won fairly easily with a huge thirty time US time formula speak figure that's above the grade one for for older horses. We don't see that very often in time for with three year olds as early as to why one horse. I do remember doing this was run happy recently. And we saw what he became. He was one of the best friend or sprinters that we've seen in recent years. He didn't backed up that one thirty when he won the Allen jerkins at Saratoga. You went wire-to-wire that day, you can see one forty one piece figure to the half mile, which sort of explains why he is shown in front. So you just a really solid or some really fast horse. Anyone Keeneland any face older for the firm? Time in the greet to Phoenix. And this time he looked like the speed of the only speed on paper. Just like he does here. But he went a little slower any rated I can see pace figures went down and he got a little bit faster as the rates went on. I think that might be a mistake in here. I think you're gonna let this horse running that little bit uses speed is in a bandage. And hopefully, that's what happened Saturday. I think he's going to be the horse to beat. I love six one morning line. It's not sure we're going to get six the one, but I think will get in the four to one nine to two range, and he's going to be my selection that said with low to look at a couple of his other the main contenders here and the first ones imperial hin imperials. At hint is a horse who was runner up in this race last year. He's a five year old horse very fast as well. But he's not really a speed horse. The one time he tried to to go to the lead in recent races at Churchill over a sloppy track. He said very famous for actions in. Just backed out of it that day in the stretches, the sixty five favorite. So that's probably not his best tactic. His last race. The grade one of boss Berg is a little bit deceiving in it. He made the lead. But there wasn't a whole lot of speed in that race in. There wasn't a whole lot of competition. Paper it will like his race lose. He was one the five when he left the gate, and it was basically just a paid workout for him. So I don't expect them to be challenging for the lead. I expect them the track just off of it. But I think he's going to have a hard time catching promises fulfilled the next horse. We're going to get his ROY h he won this race last year over imperial hint. And he did so tracking that one you can see the Breeders Cup. It wasn't a very strong race last year. The Breeder's Cup sprint. He won the race with a one twenty six which is actually below the great one are for older horses. He's been a solid horsey came into reach last year off a really slow pace in Nida sprint pace. Sprint championship? It is virtually an identical setup this year. I came in off a very slow pace threes one that was later early by the state of be who we mentioned earlier, he hasn't quite run back to those saints feed figure some of that last one was due to the slow pace, but a Mike quite chore. He's the same horse. I expected good race. But I don't think he faced anybody like promises fulfilled last year. And I still think that one has a big advantage. The last thing we want to look at some people may look at limousine Looper was worse. For course. If you pull up his lifetime career box time form US you'll see he definitely likes Churchill surface. He's six for eight over it six furlongs. He's two for free with a second. So I wouldn't blame anybody for using him in this race one thing to keep keep in mind. He's going to be a little bit definitely off the pace here. But the big thing for me is actually scrolled through those races. And I think it's kind of a fluke the his track record there. He just hasn't faced a whole of competition. When he runs Churchill he's been the favourite many of the times the figures have been any better these are anywhere else. So just wanted to point out. I don't think he's really that much of a horse for forces the record indicate and he's one I won't be looking to use in. Here's I think he's just not fast enough. So again, I'm going to go promises fulfilled. I think he's a very talented three year old probably on the. Oh of run happy. We saw when this sprint few years ago. I think he's got a big pay said in ear in not sure the other two main contenders good as they were last year with that. 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We kick off the Saturday Breeders Cup pick six at your downs. With the Phillies mayor turf, let's throw up the field for race number six mile and three eighths two million dollars is on the line. Approximate post time to four eastern for expanded stakes previews and lots lots more. Visit video dot D R F dot com or the daily racing form you to channel Mike it's a big field. And as we said in the stakes preview, the fem- Chad Brown versus the world, and in that battle sister, Charlie leads CHAD'S contingent and sister, Charlie has just been very very consistent. She's overcome a slow pace in her. Most recent start the Beverley D at Arlington to win fairly easily. But her priorities. The Diana was pretty good too. There wasn't a lot of pace in there. And she ran down a loose leader in the stretch. Yeah. Her Diana was actually underrated. I think it was also she was cutting back and distance to which could have worked against or. Let's look at the Diana now, and you're going to see your now the horse. She's running down on the lead in here. Who's very consistent in nice horse. Isn't Breeders Cup kind of worth noting? That sister Charlie here is wide and having to close down a horse in twenty two and four eleven four on the back end. She did some work in here. This is an underrated effort, and of course, accidents racing with them. Really nice win in the Beverly day. She's clearly the best of the American stores, the international group, though, very very strong, and it's led by Godolphin's wild illusion winner. Most recently of the prestigious school point pre Delap bre, and it looks like a good performance from Philly that has nights tactical speed. Yes, she ran really well in the pre new op I thought she your race. And I'm really thought she ran while under star before that she's won two group one races in a row, she has really nice tactical speed. And I think that's really going to serve her most well in this race as as opposed to anything else. Let's take a look at her. Most recent start the pre Delapraz here on that Godolphin blue. She had a clear outside triple the runner up. Magic wand. Who's also back in this race for Aidan O'Brien gets really clever ride from Ryan more down towards the inside. She finds. A seem and it's a race the final eighth of a mile with wild allusion getting the better of magic wand by a length keep in mind that this races at a mile and a quarter and that they faced each other previously two mile and a half. And magic wand got the better of wild delusion at a mile and a half, they split the difference. This time around at eleven furlongs while delusion was a group one winner on soft going in France as a two year old that could be key considering the weather forecast at Churchill Downs this weekend, Mike, lex wild illusion. I like wild delusion as well. Matt likes the Chad horse, and it's not sister, Charlie. Let's find out who Fillion turf. It's Chad versus the world understand the Europeans coming in the very very towns O'Brien's horse. You've got the dolphin horse coming in wild delusion. I'm going to stick with the home team, though, I feel like Chad has this really top to bottom, and I understand maybe some of these horses are a little bit more talented slightly more talented than four star crook. But I feel like she's the horse that is in the best form right now. And that will probably appreciate the circumstances. Given to her the my own. Three as well. As the cutting the ground rented look at the flower. She's going from just nice New York bred to a legitimate grade one winner, she was very impressive winning the flower bowl. I like that she's proven over testing ground. And I think she's going to appreciate his trip a little bit more than the other CHAD'S in here, maybe Santa Monica once at the most, but not totally convinced that she is of this true quality grade one Breeders Cup level, Charlie. I'm not convinced that she wants to go. This far raving beauty and very very concerned about this distance for star crooked mile and three eighths. I think it's a right between the eyes the cutting the grounds not a problem. And again, maybe she's a little bit of a playable price in that five six to one range the inside horse for Chad Brown, I'll take four star crooked affiliate turf. Let's throw up the field for the Breeder's Cup. Sprint kicking off. A pick five Churchill Downs on Breeders Cup Saturday. It's carnage is race. Number seven. We're running six longs. For two million dollars for expanded stakes previews of all the Breeders Cup races. Visit video dot DR F dot com or the daily racing form YouTube channel will also have clock. A reports from Mike Welch and reports on site from some daily racing forms racing. Analysts like Byron king Marcus talking about track profiles European invaders. We got tons of pedigree information as well from Nicole Russo. It's going to be a great Breeders Cup week and Mike. This is going to be a great race and nice east versus west matchup. Imperial hint has just been so dominant in his last two races in New York. I mean, maybe the Alford Vanderbilt and the Vasbert this year, we're in of their usual standard, especially the vase Bor. But you couldn't win any easier than Perio hint. Yeah. I guess that's a good thing when you're looking at his last races. But I think if you just look at them on paper, and you're going to see a couple of open Lancs crane one wins. I think it's worth realizing that he was not beating one fields either time, let's just put the video up. You can just see how easily he's doing this race the Vosper. They just went right to the front because really. There was no reason for him not to and he's just never Gallup in this race, Dan. They never ask them to run. He wins as he pleases in this race the same thing that he did one start back in the Vanderbilt and now he's gonna stop and he's going to real horses. Again, the good thing with imperial hint. Is you know, you can go with with real horses. Hebron, very well. In the last year has wonderful tactical speed. I wonder if he got enough out of that Vasbert met for near made that point a couple of times in our Breeders Cup focus because that race was glorified public workout. And he was basically geared down at the end of this race. It'll be interesting also to see how he handles a wet track. Roy h doesn't have much experience over a wet track. He's only raced once over with fast going it's Anthony only did was Papa triple digit buyers speed figure by winning off by open links. Let's talk about the defending champion isn't a good trip coming from the outside post. It really seems like he just got. The best of the draw. And and he's just one of those horses that doesn't need what he's got plenty of speed. He's going to be up close. But it does not need to be on the lead to run his best race. He showed that last time in his most recent start this ending sprint championship. He just sat right off the pace. He was very confidently ridden by Pago Lopez when it was time he came and got these horses. He wanted clear I really liked. This priced Peter Miller is coming into this race the same way. He did last year coming off a runner up effort del mar with the sub triple digit buyer than a win in the Santa newsprint championship with a triple digit buyer leading up to the Breeders Cup same pattern this year. Second Delmore that performance at Santa Anita. And now coming into the Breeders Cup on hoping he handles the wet track. And again, he has the tactical speed perhaps in advantage breaking from the outside post Mets going to try to beat the favor and he's going to do. So with the horse, then loves a wet track and left searching, nouns my opinion. The best race of the entire Breeders Cup weekend. Is the previous Cup sprint may not be the biggest field, but I feel like top to bottom. It's just quality. I respect imperial respect. Roy. Each wanna go with a little bit of a let's say an unlucky horse and his most recent stubborn and take a look in the missing liberals run at Keeneland in the Phoenix. Most recently he's down on the inside whichever way. Jose goes continues to get shut off. I think is a case to be made that he was the best horse in that race that day. He comes here to Churchill Downs where six eight seven times in the exact from eight lifetime starts if you think the pace heats up. I think this thing could set it very very well for limousine liberal. I thought coming into the week that he could be very very appetizing sort of eight nine to one price everyone I run into down. Here seems to be interested in horse like this. I do fear that he may end up going in that underlay territory in that nine to two range. If that's the case, I'm not nearly as interested, but I still think he is a big chance in here, and perhaps in the multi-race wagers in law for a little bit more valuable limousine liberal in the Breeder's Cup sprint. Let's throw up the field for the prestigious great one Breeders Cup mile on the turf course at Churchill Downs car this race number eight two million dollars is the purse three thirty six eastern is the approximate post time for expanded stakes previews, visit video dot dot com. Or the daily racing form YouTube channel scratch the number nine hunt. That means the number fifteen visit Darrow will get into the Breeders Cup mile lots of intriguing European options as always in this race. Mike moustache re is not done it against group one competition just yet. But if you think the group one horses coming from Europe aren't really group one class, the source Fettes, he's a bit on expose. That's for sure we'll see if he can step up as just a little bit. Here was he goes into and looks to win a grade one race here. He hasn't done that yet, and it is a five year old already. But he's a lightly. Raced five year old and feels like the kind of horse who's really started to find himself this year for sir. Michael stoute? He's put everything. Together this year is three for four so far. And he was a close second in the other race. Let's look at his most recent start. This is a group to win a short field. But one way or the horse that he runs down got the right kind of a ride here. Very tactical ride went to the lead. There was no pace. This is a nice win here from his stash Rita close this horse down in the late stages. It just feels like he's never been better than he is right now. I don't love the other Europeans coming on. I'm gonna take a shot with source at a price. Michael style wouldn't be here unless he thinks this source can compete now. The soft ground on the outside post. These are legitimate questions that he's going to have to face, which means I'm hoping he got the wrong, sir. Michael Stoute horse 'cause I got the other one in the number seven expert, I expert ice started his career like they thought he could be a special horse for John money. One. Is I two starts like a star. And then he got injured, unfortunately as the big favor, and the Darlie Dewhurst just never sort of come back to that form. He's been good. But he's never really realized his potential. I thought his last race was okay. The let's go back to the pre doom Lomb in France at Longchamp timber. The ninth. See he's kind of in behind horses here coming into the straight from most of this race. He was near the back of the pack and down towards the inside. And Ryan Moore was riding in this way, this days to looking for a and he really can't get clear now he's looking to get to the outside. He can't get clear now sees an opening and he's going to come with a good solid sustained run to finish third. I wonder if he gets clear a little bit sooner he finishes second. I don't think he wins this race. But the sources only competed on good to soft ground once in his career. It was off a long layoff. It was a pretty good effort. I think he's going to handle the going. I think the pre Dumoulin is a pretty good race. He finished ahead of lightning spear who's in this race. You'll also finished ahead of three to next hour group placing Morris's and a horse that came back to win a listed stakes race in his next start. I'm hoping expedi- and Frankie Dettori get some pace and they can come running late. Hopefully, he handles the soft ground Mets keeping with the theme of a horse. For course in the Breeders Cup mile. We'll find out who he likes. Then we'll go to Jake as multi-race play the day. David our goal is. Time formula spotlight. I'm picking the miles didn't even get into the race until a few days ago. This is a race. I feel like it's very termite users inscrutable feel like you can go so many different ways to fourteen Horsfield case can be made for nearly fourteen of them. I'm gonna go. Visit aero in here. Visit loves Churchill Downs. And I think he's run better than perhaps the page would indicate in his recent races. We're gonna look at the Woodbine mile. This was actually his most recent start because he's scratched at the gate going into the shed we'll turf mile Keeneland and this running Woodbine. I thought it was very respectable considering closer to the face any wants to be. There was no pace whatsoever. Signed on and now, really the big pieces. He gets back to Churchill Downs. Perhaps the mile is a little on the sharp side form. But at the same time. I look I think he has a chance as anyone else in here. I was torn between him and Gustav Clinton coming in for O'Brien chose to go with the horse. That loves these local turf course that has an affinity here for chilled downs to visit arrow he should be a giant price in this spot. I think he's gonna come with an honest bid. Maybe he doesn't win. But I think he can certainly get a piece this thing. A giant price. Visit arrow for me in the Breeders Cup mile. Everybody JK's play of the day travelling woes away to Louisville looking forward to participating breeders cutting challenge. I'm going to give you the play of the day this week. I would wanted to play pick for don't have a strong opinion in the Breeders Cup mile. So what we're gonna do? Here's we're gonna start at this staff may use three horses. Abel Tasman I'm gonna forgive her for her last performance had an unbelievable year. She was great last year. I think she'll be good again this year able to ask them I'm gonna use blue prize actually had the antics chemo last time. But I think that kinda got that figured out working straighten strong. Now, I think that the better runs well Churchill, and then Montemar girl the obvious three year old champion, I think she'll run well here going onto the next single enable. I thought she was wonderful gallop the other morning on sort. Of course, got a little bit cut in it. But I think that'll be fine for her. I think she'll be tough in the Breeders Cup Turf. And then onto the classic. I'm gonna use to horses McKinsey derby horse go early in the year, I know bathroom likes the horse. Ran well in Pennsylvania killing off of that. And I'm gonna use Yoshida trustee Yoshida ran well in the Woodward that horse race comeback productive. He's working great by all accounts. And I think he's gonna be extremely tough. If he gets a little bit of pace, the close into the Kinsey should be fairly place. Yoshida should be coming from out of it. I feel like I got that race covered. Good luck. We'll see next week. Hi, everyone. I'm David Arrigoni with this week's time from US spotlight the Saturday edition as you look at the Breeders Cup card and I want to focus in on big race the class. Geico's race eleven at Churchill Downs on Saturday at at you a full field fourteen horses a couple of also eligible 's and when you see field dislodge, there's always going to be plenty of speed signed on. And that's the case here. You also want to note that favorite exceleron all the way in the outside post position. I'm not sure how detrimental that's really going to be given the long run to the first turn of Churchill Downs. But you wanna be aware because tricks are going to be very important in this race. We'll take a look at the time for US pace projector, and you see that red bar as I mentioned it is predicting fast pace. And I do want to note about this is there are real confirmed front runners in this race. I mean there horses that have done running on the front ended the past but they're all perfectly capable of Stockton that taste. I don't think they're any one dimensional front runners this field it showing the number seven west. West coast out in front, but I think that the the first three will be jockeying for position him the number six McKinsey, the number nine Mendelssohn maple decent running on the front end of the past civil C, which one breaks. Well, ends up taking early lead in this spot. We'll start by taking a look at that favor. The number fourteen or six celery. He is the force to be. And I think you really have to ask yourself what you do with his last race in the awesome again because he did not perform as well as prior efforts that day maybe was just a prep to this race. Maybe he wasn't fully cranked. But he was coming off of really the best performance base. Career the Pacific classic. The awesome. Again was run just six weeks later. So it's hard for me to imagine that he was lacking fitness in anyways. He just seemed kind of dull last time out having to pretty hard to beat west coast who was coming off along lap. And was not at his best that day. I think accelerates can have to run a lot better. It's not to witness race. But I don't wanna diminish what he's accomplished this year. He won all of the top grave on racism califor- nets. You see those time formula speed figures of lump thirty six thirty one he actually record. Four straight figures lump thirty plus which really signifies that he's, you know, top class handicap horse, you know, he might have been competitive against gun runner. If you ran that Pacific classic performance in his Breeders Cup Classic last year. But he's the horse to beep. Just short price. It's such a large field, especially considering his trainers record outside of California in the Breeders Cup. I think he's worth taking a small shot against we'll take a look at some of the alternatives. And I think one that is going to serve a lot of respect the number six Kinsey three-year-old moving up to faced older horses for the first time really liked his return rates independent derby last time that one twenty nine times listed figure stacks of pretty well against his older rivals. He just looked like a winner. Every step of the way, he held off Axelrod was really improved recently, and is not out of this big price of. But I like that brace for McKenzie. He has shown plenty of ability early in the sees he's really taking a step toward for Bob Baffert seems to think he's ready to improve again off that race. Now that he has it under his belt and the only. Conserved McKinsey as the stretch out to a mile and a quarter. He hasn't proven emperors others have and he's got to get the distance. But I think he's got a ton of towns that have definitely using him. I actually prefer efforts other horse west coast. You really could look at his prep in the awesome again to as you could say, well, that's not the west coast that we knew last year. He's just not the same horse that he blunts was because you look at us torments in Dubai back in March. And it didn't look like himself that either maybe he's just lost a step or you can say that he wasn't fully cranked. He's sort of a big horse that takes a while to get into top form as we saw last year. And maybe that race was just a stepping stone. Two goals a more in the latter camp. I think we're gonna see much better performance Oedipus coast on Saturday. I like his workout sits that race. And he was relatively game to be second. He really battled on tribe that day behind exceleron even though he didn't run that fast. I like this worse than I really like in stretching out to a mile at a quarter. I think that's his best distance. And he's got the stamina to do it. A John last good fit for this horse. He's a really hard drier. And he's going to give you know vigorous ride. So I think west coast can connect here if we get the five to one morning line. I'll be perfectly satisfied with that. So he's my topic in this race that I don't want to discount Mendelssohn. The other speed are said what's going to be a decent price? I really liked this worse jockey club gold, Scott. It was a huge step forward. Office Travers where he was beaten by Catholic. Boy, I would argue that you read the best race of anybody that Gold Cup because he went after by versus I early who has a really fast for rec- can set debt some pretty fast fractions, keep gully Mendelssohn. Just basically broke him on the front end. He'd pass them at the top of the strategy was just real didn't by horses preceding much farther off the pace that one twenty three times from risking figure. It doesn't quite put him in the mix. But I think he's going to move forward again because Aidan O'Brien has developed a plan for this horse since the derby to get him to progressively forward. With each starts. It's worked so far. And I think he's gonna bring its best raced on Saturday. So I'm not counting out at a price horse. I definitely want to use it exact doesn't try dozens multi-race laters ending in this race. It's wider. Open using west coast over the other front of MacKenzie Mendelssohn and accelerate Ellison it back to the studio. Let's up the field for the two million dollar Breeders Cup distaff to be contested at a mile in eighth, of course for Phillies and mayors. Our coverage of all the ladies races on Friday and Saturday by resented by the November sale at phasing tipped and nice matchup. Here Mikey modem white girl. The leading three year old filly in the country against Abel Tasman up in last year's Breeders Cup. Distaff one of the top older fillies in the country. Let's begin with modem white girl. Controversial disqualification aside. She has had a sensational year. She loves Churchill Downs. She handles wet going and a mile in eighth is pretty good for her. Yeah. Feels like she just keeps getting better with racing too. That's a good thing. I like her speed from the outside post, and that's something that she really put into play in this replay. We're gonna take a look at from Saratoga the coaching Comerica notes. They put him right on the lead in here. Dancing on absolutely loose. And she had plenty left through the stretch to clear actually feel like even though she was disqualified from the continuous time. It's one of the. Better races that she has run. And I think it might cetera perfectly from the Breeders Cup. Although she breaks from the far outside post in the Breeders Cup. Distaff? Her good natural speed Serbs are very well. I don't think she'll lose too much ground going into the first turn. And I think she'll be a very good stalking position. When the real racing begins turning into the stretch. Let's talk about Abel Tasman. She's really the key of this race, isn't she the good Abel Tasman, probably the horse to beat the Abel Tasman. We saw last time out. She's nowhere. I mean, you got to have an excuse for her most recent start if you want to back or in this race. And I don't know that yet. Necessarily have on you're gonna find out more about her on Saturday just to see where she is her most recent start design yada. It's really tough to reconcile with other forms. She didn't break while in that race. And she was never on the bridle and she was nowhere at the end. If she shows up an ones anything close to that. She's getting nothing on Saturday. But I gotta believe she's going to run better than that. Dan. Let's go to starts back on her car to personal ensign. This is a super fast race. She's going to hook it up here with a late in the stretch a late as a horse who would be just really really tough to be in a race like this and able to going to dig in and see her off at the end, you're gonna see these two come together here late. There's going to be a little controversy here. But Abel Tasman will hold on. This was a superior performance if you can want something like this or something like the fifth round three starts back. I just think she's going to beat the field. You pretty much have to demand your price though considering the last race because it was so bad. It's hard to imagine that her form. Just completely Phil Clifton. You'll never get to be the same supposedly. There was a sickness and illness going through Bob apperance barn. Maybe. Able was compromised. It seems like she's training back to world self. I'm just not try wanna play relatively short price off of a lousy race. I think Monin white girl might be the horse to beat. I also think that midnight visa was not too far away from Mona Moi girl in the coaching club American oaks that we showed there wasn't a lot of pace of front. Mona girl controlled at midnight zoo, tried her on the term. But I think it was a little bit compromise. Let's go back to that continue in that controversial until you down towards the inside has midnight zoo. She's rallying a little bit here. Munjoy girl in flora, Andrew, and I'm going to drift in at forces, Mike Smith, and midnight bees to alter course, to the outside. It looks like midnight B's UIs gone a little bit of momentum. And now moon girls going to drift out a little bit more, and perhaps intimidate midnight zoo, maybe midnight zoo at an advantage in this race at a mile in sixteenth in that Mona more girl will just be too much horse for her at a mile and an eighth, but I don't think she's far off Mon girl on her best day. And supposedly she is training. Very well for Steve Asmussen coming into this race. She has a win over a wet track of the sort of big names in this race. She might be the best price. I'll take short stamp with midnight bees in the distaff map believes in redemption. However, he's going back just from me as a race. It's filled with questions are the three year olds actually good enough to run with the older horses, which version of Abel Tasman is going to show up. Is it going to be a horse like blue prize who has a real affinity for Churchill Downs in the main track here? Ultimately, I looked at it and said as bad as she was in yada able to as best is simply better than everyone else's best even three year olds no disrespect, girl, or midnight zoo or wonder good note or anyone like that. But able to best if she runs the personal and if she runs the Ogden Phipps those are big gifts, but she runs one of those races. I think she's winning plain and simple. I don't really have much question about that either. And if you believe some of the prices overseas, you could be looking at three two one seven two two proposition. If I can get that I'd run to the window. I just feel like on her best day. I assume we're going to get her best. Otherwise, I don't think Baffert would sender here. I soon we're going to be able to as best, and I think. Her best is better than everyone else's best able to Steph. We're going to see one of the best horses in training star as short price favourite in the Breeders Cup Turf. Let's throw up the field. Four million dollars is the purse we're going mile and a half the turf is card. It has race number ten and enable us you see even money on the morning line for Frankie Dettori. She is eight two time winner of the prestigious grade one prix deluxe trio, she is a six time group one winner, and she has only lost once in ten lifetime starts. She is way the horse to beat and she's relatively fresh for an arc winner. Lots of them have bombed in the Breeders Cup. But she's only made two starts this year. Mike, you're going to take a little stab against her. However with the horse that was so impressive in his arc. Prep and finish close to enable in the arc. Yeah. It's not going to be easy to beat enable. I have no allusions about that. But I'm not a little shot against with guys. We'll see what he can do here. He's a four year old for the great Andre fob. And we'll see what happens there. He ran really. Well, as you mentioned in the ark came up a little short at the end after ralian through traffic, but let's go. To back, and is are this is the race that really catches your eye. He is a horse who is very much improved as he a good two year old, and he was a three year old. He is a very much improved for your old. This is to starts back on his card lead into the ark. And this isn't some mediocre horse. He's running over that has last year's Breeders Cup Turf winner talismanic making the front and vault. Isis just going to run him over at the end of this race. This was a super impressive win. He ran well in the ark. He doesn't have a great pulse in this race. But he might be an okay price try and beat enable with kind of humbled talismanic in that raise talismanic jump on touring into this trae walk as you said astutely random right over this is a tough post position. But I think this worse in very very good form. And if a naval stub, sir towed just a little bit. We'll might be the most intriguing turnip. Let's go back to enable second arc wind. She just has that wonderful tactical gear we're going to turn into the stretch of the art Detroit. She's in behind horses. She's going to ease out. You'll notice vault Geis's in the red. And he's kind of down inside. Maybe that's not exactly the. Preferred place for him. But enable is still under a very calm handwrite from Frankie Dettori when Frankie pushes the button here at the three hundred meter Mark a is going to shoot to the front, and that's a pretty good Philly. That's going to come rallying from out of the pack. It make an able work very late, but still a neighbor got the job done, and I think for tactical speed. And this really good inside post position is going to really worked to her advantage in the Breeders Cup Turf. She runs on firm. She runs on soft. She runs on just about everything. It's not the most interesting opinion in the world. But I think everyone would agree that enable seems like most likely winner of the Breeders Cup Turf match looking to take price with one of the domestic alternatives. One. That's shown good recent form on off turf enables the star of the weekend. No question about coming in. She's a dual or Quin she'll try to be the first or Breeders Cup Turf winner in the same year thought about volved Geist. I like him a lot. I thought he ran just finding that had a little bit of trouble. I'm going to go though, one of the hometown horses. Go channel maker channel make renting a look as most recent start. This is the Joe Hirsch turf. Classic at Belmont Park. And to me, it was just sort of the moment this horses continued to trend the right direction. And then finally he popped at a giant number as far as speed figures, you're concerned he has nice early tactical speed now, he's proven over testing ground. It just I keep going back to feels very much like what we saw from beach patrol last year. He fired a giant shot turf classic went on Rin to wills losing last year's Breeders Cup Turf. This parallels are very very similar. I feel like there's a real scenario where this horse channel maker goes off seventy two one. And I think he's got that good versatility can be forward the place down toward the inside. But I think he works out a nice trip in here. Nice alternative enable or any of the other big names in here. Give me channel maker in this year's turf. Time for the main event on the two day Breeders Cup extravaganza. It's the six million dollar Breeder's Cup classic at a mile and a quarter. Let's throw up this field. You've got some of the best torces in the country and one of the best horses in the world number-two roaring lion. Trying dirt for the first time for extended stakes previews of all the Breeders Cup races. Head on over to video dot D. R F dot com or the daily racing form YouTube channel or colleague Matt Bernier is going to be covering the Breeders Cup. Classic live on the NBC telecast, let's see we likes wrapping up with the big one the Breeders Cup. Classic. Look. This is a race has a number of questions as well. It's a great betting ration- go few different ways in here. I kind of looked at it. And we'll just boiled down to me saying who's the most consistent horse in the race. And I think the most consistent horse is mind your biscuits now mind you biscuits, perhaps best isn't good enough to get the job done. We'll find out we're going to go back and take a look at just run in the Whitney. We rent second diverse. Five, but keep in mind there were so many sort of circumstances that I think didn't work to his advantage, and perhaps really flattered a horse like diversify the wet race track. The crazy long wait between races. You name. It. I feel like effort from mind your biscuits, and Lucas classic is sort of an indicator that he is going the right direction that he is going to be ready to run his best. Now again, it is best good enough to get the job done. I don't know. But I kind of looked at so many other horses in here and said mind your biscuits. I think he's gonna show up with his race. I don't expect him to throw in a complete clunker where I could say that for some of these other horses some of the other more fancied horses. I've got major questions about some of them. Whether it's exceleron or west coast or McKinsey or Mendelssohn thunder, snow you name it with this horse. I feel like you're going to get it on Stanford out of maybe it's only good enough for third or fourth. Maybe it's good enough to win. We'll find out should be square price in here mind, your biscuits going to be my pick in the twenty eight Breeders Cup. Classic MicMac thinks that mind your biscuits is going to be able to stretch his speed out to a mile in. Quarter for west coast that shouldn't be an issue a mile and a quarter. No problem for him at all when he won the Travers last year, and it just looks like Bob Baffert circle this race after the Dubai World Cup. That was a nice prep last time out, although he was beaten by exceleron. Yeah. You don't have to worry about distance with this horse. It's just a question of whether you think he is now ready to take the step forward that he looked like he was so primed to take at the end of last year. He went so well in this race has three year old they went onto the Pegasus World Cup. He ran great in that race, the debris of didn't work out. And they stopped on him. After that. Let's look at us properties. This is nothing. But a prep last time. I realized that salary is too much for him in the lane. But to me, this might have been a perfect proper west coast. They let them show some speed. He contested the pace, and you can see he's going to be tired in the stretch. There's no problem with that as a prep race. He will hold on for second. If he can use this race to springboard into the classic. There's just nobody else that I really wanted to take in here, Dan. And I know that if he runs his best race he is a handful for these horses has a very comfortable post position. And number seven. He does have that tactical. Speed wants to go to the league he can make it. I don't think he will in this spot. I think either is uncoupled stablemate McKinsey or the very speedy Mendelssohn will go to the front, but couldn't see this just sitting third on the outside before we get to pick. I do have one question. What do you think of the Beyer speed figure of the awesome again because it was kind of a slow race? Come back, a slow rice. That's a little concerning to me. It's way more concerning for exceleron than it is for west coast west coast off that long layoff since Dubai accelerate. You know, he can run faster than that. And he's certainly good Mylanta quarterhorse. But I'd be more concerned about the figure for him. I'm going to try to take a chance with one of the three year olds in this race. And that's Catholic boy, and he is going to have to improve in order to win the Breeders Cup Classic. But one thing I do know is that he is a mile and a quarter specialist a grade one winner two mile and a quarter on turf in the Belmont derby, and then this performance in the traverse reset second off a moderate pace blows right by Mendelssohn turning into the stretch and goes onto solid if not spectacular victory. Mendelssohn at least came out of this race to run very well chasing a fast pace and the jockey club Gold Cup. I don't sleep Catholic boys going to get this kind of trip in the Breeders Cup Classic. He breaks down towards the inside with a lot of speed to his outside. But it is worth noting that his sort of breakout performance last year as a two year old when he first made his name on the national scene was in the Remington a racing when she came from off of the pace the keys of Castellano can get the source into a comfortable spot with all those crusher forces coming from the outside to try to save ground with that long run into the first turn if he does I think the Catholic boy can acquit himself, very very nicely. And I think he's going to be a solid enough price in a very competitive edition of the Breeders Cup. Classic. We thank you so much for watching both special editions of added the gate this week, and we urge you to continue following Diaw TV this week on social media. Follow on Twitter at D R F video in for all the latest Breeders Cup. News and notes follow on Twitter, America's turf. Already daily racing form at deep our f- inside post. That's it for this week best of luck. When you're breaking the scout.

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Brisnet Call In Show - June 13th 2019

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Brisnet Call In Show - June 13th 2019

"Originating from our Jimmy Johns of Lexington studios. This is the business dot com. Call in shows on the horse race where the phone lines are open. Call now. Eight nine six six eight eight nine six six four seven seven six. Now, here's Anthony veal and Ed DeRosa. Good evening. Everyone and welcome to the birds net dot com. Colon show here on the worst racing radio network. I'm the big a Anthony. Steel up at beautiful. Belmont Park down our Jimmy Johns of Lexington broadcast VO's is producer, Philipino, we're joined by action. Ed, the Rosa who's a church old, nouns, eight eight, eight nine six six four seven seven six the number to call anything and everything. They're racing triple crowns, all wrapped asked you earlier on the afternoon program. If the three year old clips vote was tomorrow, who would you be voting for? You can answer based on what you've seen so far this year you can based on what you think's going to happen. I have my answer. I'm pretty definitive in my answer. Let's see what you guys have to say. Eighty eight nine six six four seven seven six. What's happening? It. That'll be here doing through nettle be back. Let's go to the phone lines gyms in New Jersey. I know gyms there. Jim welcome to the prison dot com colon show, although Anthony. Hello, Anthony nether triple crowns over Haskell question. Do you think the fact they moved it back a week? It'll make for a bigger field since you have a little bit more time to for the Travers. You know, Jim, I. It's funny. I don't think it's going to help them on the at all. And I'll tell you why the Dwyer is on stars and stripes. They here at home on the sixth. And with maximum security, and he'll be the subject of the blurs update and a little bit with maximum security. Now, definite for Sunday's Pegasus. I don't know how many you're gonna get the prep and they're, they're expecting a field of six for that race. It's kind of tough to really think it's going to help. I think it'll help the Travers, I think you give him the hassle horses another week to come back for the Travers, I think it'll help. The spa more than help Monmouth from being honest with you. I don't I don't think I think, I think people, you know, especially if you ran into race the Belmont, I think you like that extra week. You know, I also understand, you know, mama three realizes that the Saratoga is obviously the top dog and you gotta try and stay off their toes and running those races on the same weekend. It kind of took a little bit away from them. And now you know moving it a week earlier. It's not opening weekend at Saratoga anymore. They'll get a little more attention than they have in the past. And I think maybe that's what they will hoping for. I think maximum security, Elaine track plays, it may deter people from entering because anyone who's a closer might be compromised and with maximum security there. It's a real. Yeah. They may put themselves on spot this year. Think the fact well, you know, look, they'll get a big crowd maximum security will draw a crowd. I'm not a big college family, no college colleges pick this casual it'd be a real cupcakes schedule now from axiom security, I mean, the Pegasus in, in the hassle, I mean, you know, Jason service runs the place of proverbially forty five percent at the meat last year. The horses, a front runner at Monmouth park. He stabled there. I mean he has the run of the he has run of those races and know how they have the marquee. I mean, they have the worst at a lot of people think should have won the Kentucky Derby. So I think that helps their cause. For three year old of the year. Hey, listen. Do you have can you make a case form? Are you based on what's happened so far, you based on what you can happen when he returns little vote? Okay. We have to wait and see. I think he would need to do. I think when you when you are on the triple crown trail, and you don't make the triple crown races. You gotta do some extrordinary things. Right. We'll take charges the example we'll take charge. Jim thanks for the call. We'll take charge the example. He ran poorly in all three triple crown races. He got beat a combined fifty three Lancs and he went on to win the three year old clips award. I had a very big problem with that award going to him for the simple fact that we are. Led to believe, and I don't think we're falsely believe we are conditioned, and we build our first half of the year around the triple crown those races have to mean something. And if you don't participate in them, that's different, right? A little different when it came to our gate. Who stormed on the scene even so much with west coast right may work. Couple of three year olds did not take part in any of the crown races in recent history and went on to win. The eclipse award. When a horse like we'll take charge runs as poorly as he didn't those racist. I almost think you have to dismiss him from from the voting. I didn't have a vote back then you had no shot at me voting for him to win the eclipse, award, I would've voted for horse like orb who had a fantastic run up to the derby ran off triple Henry's, and then was a bang up third in the Travers. Wasn't I wasn't gonna hold turn out to be his last jockey goal Trump against him? But we have one vote for a hobby, who would be the three year old. If you voting tomorrow, eight nine six six seven seven six. Here's a call on us. Now, my vote would be Tacitus. I don't think anybody's surprised by that actually got twenty two one on them to win the Breeders Cup Classic. The other day from the mine out in Las Vegas. So I am I'm in. I'm in twenty two one. I feel a couple of nice prep wins. Tampa Bay and moral third place finish in the derby run or finish where I don't think anybody can argue. He was best on Saturday. In the Belmont Stakes. Combined with what I think, is going to be a bang-up second half for him. And it looks like he'll, it'll be Jim dandy Travers. And then we'll see what happens from there. I would I would imagine Bill Montana, run him in the Breeders Cup. Classic would maybe a stop in the jockey club Gold Cup provided all goes, well that would be my guess I don't know that. But that would be my guest because he has one well on par back to the phones we go. We'll stay in the Garden State. Chris on the line. Hey, Chris welcomes that have risen that dot com hall show. How are you? Good. How are you? Can you please tell me how Tacitus is any different than offer? Just another overrated haiku that will never get it. Well, let's just a silly statement, Chris. It's just the it's, it's, it's, it's a silly statement. I mean he's already two time great to win and were hockberg was at this point in time, nothing more than a than a maiden win. That's kind of silly statement, isn't it? Silly wasn't how to save it in the Travis. Offer never made the Travers. What's that? Offer never made the Travers. He got sick. Oh, I thought he had run in the traverse snuff. You've never made the traverse he galloped kirwin as prep. And then he got I, I want to say Bill withdrew him from consideration the Sunday or the Monday before entries the day before two days before injuries. But I mean to compare them to offer right now is I think silicon how far it was a maiden winner and was second in the Florida their resources, one two, preps was third in the Kentucky Derby and second in the Belmont Stakes. How could you make that comparison? Just based on the hike. Just to build the Bill Mont hype machine. I don't I don't I mean, all I heard going into the Belmont was the horse could not lose the and, and do you think he should've lost? Well, he added at a tough trip, but he wears seventy three feet further than the win one before we put him in horse racing. Hall of fame in Saratoga. I'm. Put them in the whole thing. You're putting words putting him in the hall of fame. I'm saying. Of the year. I think he will be three year old of the year. Hi, I'll take and even up at Omaha beach. Task. You got it and. That's coming off the surgery. I think they don't just clearly the best three year old healthy in the country. Okay. Well, it wasn't there. No caveats here is the bet that is the bet. One of them is the three year old champion was that with the beddis. Omaha beach finish ahead of passing in assuming they start finish ahead of Tacitus in the Travers main on name. It remains. England. Name it. You can name the price on that, that name, whatever price you want go steak dinner in Manhattan. I don't need to go out to to long not when we're. Well, not when we're going to stay. Around with new got it. You got it. If they run in the Travers, if they both run in the Travers after Labor Day. Winner picks the steakhouse you you. You got. And bring in dates party. We off the end. I know you gotta. Know you oughta that's fine. That's fine. The Rosa won't be ten homeless out on this one. But Steve dude paid off on his last Wednesday. Steve lost the the baffled win the derby back. Nego. Thanks for the call. Chris it. Eight nine six six four seven seventies that that probably won't come to fruition as I cannot imagine beach will be Travers. But yes, I mean obviously more talented three year olds of this crop. I have my distance questions with him. I don't have those with hazardous in two miles on Saturday. Originally mile and a half seventy three feet. I was the final margin of distance traveled more than the winner and take away from the Joe. Ours. Our awry, jewelries area ride on our Winston was one of the. Classic. Quintessential Belmont, Stakes ride, you'll ever see it's up there with a Gary Stevens Rodman victory gallop in ninety eight. And Chris McCarron Ryland victory on touch goal. The ninety seven those both both of those rise than I triple crowns. There was our Winston thrive e score. Big difference of easily ladder being more important to me just kidding. But it was unbelievable. Right. And you know, we'll, we'll talk about the trip Tacitus had because hazardous was the favourite, and I think cash, this was the more Harold loss herald the toss coming into the race. But I really hope history does not. Deny Joel his face. 'cause that was an absolute brilliant. Brilliant ride aboard Sir Winston inside was the place to be here for a couple of days at Belmont Park, and, you know, that aside, going on the half, you probably want to save some ground at some point in being four paths around the restructing Tacitus was, but. Jolted an amazing job saving that ground back out to the phone lines. We go. Please you'll always very familiar, what his del mar, nobody TOMS out there. Hey, Tom that have risen dot com home show. Hey, anthony. How you doing? Good. How are you? I'm hanging in there. If you've got twenty one on him that's like that's better the year. That's fantastic. I, I like maximum security. I know he's not gonna win anything as far as the year. Let's he gets gets does anything even ratios again. But still, he's still into feeding so if he can win the Haskell, maybe on. I noticed a what is situation and then maybe the Travers, you know, but, you know that's not asking a lot of. Well, I mean, it's a wonderful wonderful, wonderful horse though this, I don't know. I haven't seen. What's the west coast horse that guy was talking about? On the phone. But anyway. Yeah. Anyway. It's not the west coast year. It's east coast year. Three year old people gonna learn that, you know, it's not always gonna be the same as evident Evan, the flow, anyway, I decide I say, how's it going, and I can't wait for Saratoga in del mar to start? We'll be soon. It'll be here soon. Thanks for the call. Tom believe Ed is with us now. I add. He's telling me he's here on Twitter. That he's not there on even Tom. Thanks for the call. Eight nine six six four seven seven six. Take a break, come back and take more of your calls to the prisoner dot com. Poland show here on the horse racing radio network. Dot com. Call in show phone lines are open called whole now. Eight nine six six HR, R N. That's eight nine six six four seven seven six. Do you want unlimited access to handicapping, without the door prices in Brisbane dot com has you covered with a variety of plan for past performances, pedigree and raw data the prisoner dot com performance plan offers, unlimited PDF past performances, just seventy five dollars per month and is available at Brisbane dot com slash p P American produce records online, puts the pedigrees of nearly one million dams and more than two million foles at your fingertip sire stats for only two hundred seventy five dollars per year, and is available at Brisbane dot com slash APR. The prisoner dot com. 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Listen on your Alexa, the vice and the best part is, they're all free dot com. Back such tally download the app would sign up today. Doc out to the phone lines. We go its own in Houston Heo, and welcome to the prison dot com calling show. Hello. Hi. Yes, I have a question for me. I'd read an article about thanks show next to and his daughter for control of the corporation payment. And she was responsible for the bad track there when she fired this infant Janet. And this punishment as one if you have an opinion on, then I'll listen on the radio. You know. And you know, I mean I don't really I don't. No all of the particulars of the case. No that when. A few years back, Frank winter on for Paul. And. Control went to blender. I believe, and since then it's been a little bit of a power struggle. I don't know if anybody thought it would get to the point, it's at, but hopefully can get resolved and we can get back to wash race because that is the most important thing obviously. Yes, unfortunate, though. So unfortunate when families fight I guess, when you throw in billions of dollars at it. Exacerbates things and. Yeah. I wouldn't know I wouldn't know those problems that I tell you. But yeah. Eighty nine six six four seven seven six. Those of you still playing along dream passes, just one reseves fell much taking pictures in the winning circle. Three year old picture. Fit was muddled before Saturday, probably even warmer war of will we haven't really heard a lot of chatter and talk about war of will in his performance on Saturday. A lot of people was stunned by the fact that he was a little over the top. And let's take nothing away from what war of will accomplish in those five weeks after battling some issues and Louisiana after losing their being late March. He came back was in the thick of things when the incident occurred at the five sixteenth poll, the Kentucky, Derby, won the Preakness albeit with a great trip. He didn't fire on Saturday in the Belmont Stakes and that was unfortunate. But I think it's worth a few brownie points being the only horse to participate in all three jewels of the crown this year. That's. Outta lost. A lot of money on the night of the Louisiana derby. If you were told me, only one horse was going to be in all three triple crown races. It'll be war will, I would bet you whatever you wanted, and any price you want it. Testaments divorce. And it was connections. More Cassie of course. And. Perhaps fittingly if that happened in the Kentucky Derby. More Cassie wins tool of three legs of this year. Triple crown. With war of will force the Preakness, and Sir Winston in the Belmont Stakes. Eight nine six six four seven seven six. A call on the prisoner dot com Paulin show the triple with the triple crown over the three year old voting ended tomorrow. Who would you vote for for your three year old champion? Maximum security was undefeated before derby Q, is it Tacitus is it war of will is it Omaha beach based on what we've seen so far, or do you have somebody? Do you ever sneak? If somebody thinks have a big second half of the year, and come in and swoop down on the award. Lot of these midway point honors being bestowed this week as. Normally when the triple crown end second half of the year begins and begins an earnest Saturday night. We got you covered here on the horse racing radio network. Stephen foster night. Tom Leetch Jude fell will be live at their all Kentucky. All Churchill Downs. Stephen gift box comes back east field. Twelve in that grade to Stephen foster eight to ten AM. Nope, eight to ten PM. AM to the. Equal forum, Ed supposed to be on the. I hope he shows up for that. Eight ten pm Saturday night. Sirius XM one fifty six that's fight nation. Tom Leetch Jude fell of all the coverage for you including. That's even fossil which figures to be von Verna. We'll see if gift box who's really thrived and flourished since heading out west. Can come back a little east far enough east? Do some damage. Cert- himself is one of the leaders of that handicapped division off of the feet of snow Roseau in the Gold Cup of Anthony. They'll see if he can get back to his winning ways in that Stephen foster on Saturday night beneath the twin spires at Churchill Downs. Eight eight eight nine six six four seven seven six that's the number to call. We saw some spectacular performances this past weekend. Let's talk about those. Give us a call. The totally boy talk about a horse. Keeps through people were on and breaking ceilings Van Gogh Matola. Scotty from Seattle wants talk totally. Hey Scotty, welcome to the prison dot com. Call in show. Hello. Scotty. Scotty there. Yeah. I would on what's happening. Hey eric. Yup. I what's happening. Yeah. Yeah. It's called sorry if you've got thirty touch on this on many, but I'm one of those guys that book reader structure up. I wanted to stay in our Katya. I haven't done that yet I was the Breeders Cup multiple times. But I've never stayed near Santa Anita. Now, you got all the rumors obviously, I just wanna see what your feelings are if, if you think it's going get moved through chiller rela. This is. Without knowledge. And I need you. I need everyone to believe me when I tell you, this is coming from a place that is strictly, my opinion and a guess. Why opinion? And my guess would be it will not be Santa Anita. I cannot tell you. Where it will be because I don't again, I could guess I can use commonsense and tell you that it won't be here at Belmont, because we're gonna have. Construction going on for the. New York island is arena. So I would say pretty definitively won't be here after that Scotty, I. I gotta be honest. I don't know if they'll want to keep it on in California, and maybe go to del mar, I don't know, if they come to Kentucky and go to Churchill. I guess they could go to Qianwen. But yeah, I don't seem to be Churchill. I don't think I you know what though I'm gonna tell you what Scott, I, I think it's Churchill, I think the, the rumors are Churchill because Churchill makes the most sense. And again, this is this is a twin spires Churchill Downs sponsored show through prison. I'm not being a Homer here. I feel like the Breeders Cup should be Churchill Downs every year, all the on this is a broken record already, but the racist, one of their intended distances it is for the media, it is put for the big crowds. It is for the horses, and I feel like it's the most neutral ground there is for the euros. Most importantly, though. The intended distances is very very, very important for me. The fact that they don't have to run a to turn dirt mile, which completely negates the, the race itself. You're going on one. You want a mile for the horses that can't sprint and don't wanna my on a quarter you wanted around one turn, you know, they can run the turf sprint that five and a half. They have the seven for on the mile shoot, obviously, they certainly area quipped to run a mile and a quarter whatever year on the first Saturday in may turf races are all run at the right distance is. So, but I would not I don't think it's etched in stone that it leaves. I don't think it's actions. Don't if it does leave that it's going to Santa nip. But those are just opinions. That's true. Call me an idiot. I guess, for the guy that book, the trip a year in advance or would have thought something like this would happen. Could you how can anybody for see this? Yeah. Tough one is. And this is probably gonna go through political, but I understand the major injuries. I understand the safety of the sport. But everything they're putting in place. It seemed like that. Big Russia injuries was early now. No matter what they do ESPN comes out with every energy injury. Or, you know, catastrophic may be, but they call it the thirtieth, you know, they don't talk about it's the second, which is pretty good number. That's the problem, right? Well, that's listen. It's the. It's the popcorn headline and Scotty. Thanks for the call. It's the popcorn headlinin while I might not defend the. All trainers and jockeys, I will always defend the sport. And you know it's. It's the sexy headline from the lack of a better term. And that's what they're going to do. That's what the media is going to do this. The mainstream media is going to, unfortunately. Beat it until it's done with it. Is it fair? No, it's not fair. That's not even close to being fair. That's how it will be handled because, you know, sex and violence sells sex here. They got you know what they are. Making out the plenty of violence, unfortunately and you know. Let p to get involved. 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Peanut producers down our Jimmy Johns of Lexington broadcast studios. Pete's online, and he's on the line AP or to the prisoner dot com. Colon show. Hey, Anthony, I don't know that I miss a lot of the show. But. I just wanted to tell you guys terrific show as usual. Thanks, and I hope you guys made some money on the bow bound. I know you like. Came second. But I know you like Winston, I hope you out of the second wheel, the third position triple something like that. Anything? I hit I had I good. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I, I got a little lucky, but I did not reverse Pete. I bet at one ten seven ten eight I had a feeling 'cause I heard you saying that I heard you talking that you just gonna put him on top. And I was saying, I hope he puts puts a save a better something a second. So that's what I did. You know, I got lucky. And you know. I don't know already hit. But that's okay. Would you made money? I like I like when when, when I'll call and I'll fan than our friends make money. That's that's good. I'm glad you meet them money. Lol full. Well, I hope that makes them money. I don't know how we but. You know. Anyway, just called just find out about that. I just hoping that you and this great show, I don't know. Laura, who's your three world champion? I don't know. I really don't know. I can't answer, you know, and make some money by the way, ED's listening, made some money. Hey hot it, you know, is the luck. All right. Now keep keeping taught he's on me thinks maximum security should be the will be the freer old tramp. And I think that's whereas streaks gonna end. I don't know. I don't know Anthony that horse. I don't know. I think they should've put him I think they should have put him in the pre son me. And the Belmont. Well, that's you know, I asked you this, this afternoon, Pete as a fan, the afield gyp that he didn't run in the Belmont yet. He's running a week later in a package this because there's a fan. I do. Me too. I mean I wanted to see what the horses made it. Yep. I know I know. Anthony great show, and I, you know, I'm a fan so you know, good work. Appreciate how thank you. I hope you hit. I hope you hit. We'll get some money back. Thanks for thanks for thanks for calling for the kind words and made some money. We'll talk to you soon. Eight eight eight nine six six four seven seven six. Give us a call. The Jamaica any money. Stakes one fifty one I did not. To the beating actually. But then aimed the dish king Umberto after me Saturday night. So I felt about and I ate it was wonderful. A good time. Good time was had by all steam with me, buddy. Steve basket was there. He was on the other called coverage with me. We had a good time. It make any money lost a lot of money, but we had a good time listened sometime the chicken. Sometimes feathers, sow works and feathers to make a down jacket when it was done with Saturday. We. Well in fault, exactly, forty eight dollars for a dollar the day the other way. Knucklehead move knucklehead move. Listen live by the sword dot by sort, thankfully, fan and listeners, or lots more than me, and people box. Right. Boxed. So. So we've got Ed made some money you all made some money. So I didn't make any money won't be the first time. Unfortunately, will not be the last time. Eight nine six six four seven seven six. It wasn't like everybody came in Brooklyn, laptop running. All wait. He more aggravated with that was losing money and believe me, L us, more money than a lot of cost. It's just an inconvenience. Anyway. This is my vote if three year old running into tomorrow, based on what he's done so far this year. A couple of prep wins. Good showings both the Kentucky Derby, and the Belmont Stakes there's enough to carry today from me, and based on what I think you can do the rest of the year. I don't know if I was, of course of the we out of the question for Tacitus when all said and done. Travers jockey club Gold Cup free Cup classic is what I got going on in my sick had. What do you have going on your seem head? Give us a call on the snow. Eight eight eight nine six six four seven seven six talking about some of the other way performances Matola, and we've talked about that before Scotty it was called before, Voight Matali. How to look last year just being a real fast printer and went to the sidelines soon came back this year, and he was real fast sprinter, and then in the church will Dan's handicap, he was able to rate and he's able to go seven furlongs and he said, well, he was able to go seven and rape. But we'll be able to go to the mile. He did. He went the mile. He was good on Saturday. And you could talk about that McKinsey trip all you want. I don't really think it was a trip. I just think Mike got beat at a whole by a world cast writer, increased out soon on aboard thunder snow if you think about the trip he had and think about the treatments all we had taken on all comers. Middle of track fighting on the lead. I don't know if the best didn't win on Saturday in that met mile, run happy met mile ventures in buffalo. He's on the line. Vince welcome to the prison dot com. Call Joe a Anthony. I can't hear you too good because I'm at a betting center. That's why haven't been calling on Thursday. No problem. What's that? It's Thursday, if they don't start having bonuses in the triple crown, it's a very bad mistake, one other thing. So you wanna bring the bonus back. What's that? Well, they used to have the bonus. Right. That's the only way you're gonna keep horses in its nobody wants to run in the Preakness after the derby. I think. It was weak the bonus. My other point is Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Now you you. You and Andy talked about it for three days. They talked about it on the Belmont. The show. They talked to that Steve BIC on Monday Tuesday, and to Wednesday on how bad the track biases at Belmont, not today. It's not a but the bias on those three days, it's really disgusting. And we you every time I bring up Glen Kozak name. I've you, you take offense to meet telling you that, that you need a new superintendent. The why does it keep happening over and over and over that their speed biases and it's relentless. So. When I think, Glenn Brian do a fantastic job overall. Where's the fantastic job overall, the me out? They do very trouble. I don't think well that, well, that's I will look, right in and Vince bent on money, given, but first and foremost, I think it is very hard. And in this day and age it comes to the fore, even more. I don't think you can argue that we have the safest place. Yeah, that's fine. I mean. Listen. Have you have a valid point Friday Saturday? I think it started to go away on Sunday. But that doesn't make up for Friday and Saturday. The biggest day of the year horses on the outside couldn't close. We was one closer, all day that hog or that one the, the Woody Stevens. Well, Catalin cruiser Khanaqin on the outside Friday, but he was you can argue he was just better than those than I think, I think, if anything you really need to move up his performance. And you know, it's funny you bring up a creek hustle. That was the strangest race of the weekend for me, because I think the, the way the bias showed itself, and I don't think it was just necessarily an inside by. I think you wanted to be forwardly placed. And they kinda go hand in hand. Right. I think that race the Woody Stevens I couldn't put strike silver on the lead. If you gave them a head start, right? It was just. It was it was a baffling race. I guess it when races on fold the way that race on folds. Yeah. Really compromise hectic. Well, I've been a lot of money on frenzy fire, and I just don't think. Good. Totally compromised. You know. And I mean I didn't have a bad day 'cause I caught the, the Belmont winner. I mean, the bias helped you there. I get all the rail. But the I caught him the win. But I didn't catch the try, because there's no way I'm putting the one horse in the try. Just the only way that tries, if you have the all button, they can't try the way you can. By the way, you can. Cats and I had the Jap for sent but I'm very disappointed. Why these first of all to races on Friday, six and a half and fourteen I'm seventy four years old. I've seen maybe ten races in my life. Six and a half for lunch. Go under fifteen well, you've had listen listen and thanks for the call. There was some fast ores in that they fourteen and change fast, probably not. But. You know, I wasn't really worried about so much about how fast the races, we're going as I was about. You know, the way the inside seemed to be the place to be. I think that, that probably bothered me more than anything else with that said. It wasn't like to, to me. It wasn't like it produced some outlet. These outlandish results. It was unfortunate that the horses that had those trips seem to benefit. But to me, it wasn't like we had the crazy outlandish for those. Yeah. Maybe Jovi finishing third in the Belmont. But, you know, tax chased outside and he ran second, he ran forth, rather, some, I don't know. Eight nine six six four seven seven six one more break. We come back. We'll wrap it up. This is the prisoner dot com. Colon show on the horse racing radio network. The net dot com in show, the phone lines are open called whole now. Eight nine six six HR, R N. That's eight nine six six four seven seven six. 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Eric can sell and we spoke in green detail about his experiences at the prestigious Puerto Rican, jockey school and learning from the great angel Cordero its job talk presented by Tito's. Made vodka every Tuesday at six or horse racing radio dot net. We'll see and listening to hey in radio. This is Bruce net dot com. Call in show, the phone lines are open. Call now. Eight nine six six HR that's eight nine six six four seven seven six. Back. Dot com. Here on H R and. Eight. Nine six six four seven seven six. Number call James is in Vienna. Or LA rather James, risen dot com colon show. How's it going to be how I? Out here in Los Angeles. Like every day we're hearing about what's going on at Santa Anita. And I was wondering what your opinion on? If the Breeders Cup get moved the church hill this year, or their keep with original plans on keeping at Santa Anita. Yeah. We have a call about this earlier again, I don't have any knowledge of this. This is just my opinion. Why opinion is in won't be centimeter. I think Churchill seems like the most logical spot. I don't think that's exiting sewn though del mar. You know. I said earlier that they're going to move it. I think they're gonna move it. Yeah. I don't think I I don't see. Anything else now. Now look. I don't know if I don't know how I feel about them having a movement. Part of me doesn't want them to move because part of me doesn't want. Quote unquote them to win, you know when it's like they knew I don't want them to win, right? Part of me feels like. They have done a really good job at straightening, the surface out, here's the problem. The problem is, and this is kind of where you don't want to don't want the, the eighty to one shot. God forbid something happens, right? Why pick the risk? It's all over. So I think for. The betterment of the sport. It will probably get moved. But I'll tell you why games I don't know of Churchill's lock stock and barrel. I would not be surprised if they tried to keep it at Delmore for. At the very least. A lot of people have made their plans already. I'm from Australia for this, you know what I mean? Ticket. I mean my, my assumption would be if you got tickets Breeders Cup and they have to move. They're gonna give you first crack at keeping the tickets. I can't imagine the not going to do that. You know, but. They. Gonna help you with F Aharon and everything else that, that, that. With it. You know. I don't know. It's it's a. The date is they're supposed to come out with this all here later on June. I've never heard of like, is it? I'm telling you. Listen I'm I'm being completely honest with you guys. I have not heard anything definitively. I think they're supposed to be a meeting at the end of the month. I read that somewhere. But I don't know if that was facto rumor. James, and thanks for the call the problem situation like this is, and we said this earlier. Sex. Sells violence cells in a situation like this. The rumor mill is going to churn like nothing else, churns, right people. Everybody is an expert everybody knows what put the do. Everybody knows what's going on behind the scenes. So in this instance more so than any other instance, I would be very, very. Very cautious in what I listen to. And who I listen to? So. Also gotten pretty good at it being out of my hands. I won't be to Breeders Cup this year. I'll be Mohegan sun. I don't know if the bridge will be del mar, Santa Anita Churchill. Keeneland. I know I'll be able Egan son. And maybe that's part of the reason why I haven't been, you know. Looking for the salacious in want to give you guys the best information I possibly can? But, you know. I think common sense says it won't be Tanzania and common sense says, it'll be Churchill bam. But I'm not sold on the church will on the church downs thing. I'm not sold on it. And I'm the guy that thinks it should be a church over year. But I just don't I feel like if it was definitely going to Churchill that would have come out already a really feel that way. I really now I had a friend of mine, you know, tax me he went looking for hotel rooms in Louisville the weekend that Breeders Cup and the rates went up and they're far between. It's the worst kept secret in the world end. But nobody told me. I did not do any any research into that. But as far as I know there's nothing official. Listen to this, fort everything's in this sport. Everybody thinks they have the, the answer. Everything's they know more than the next guy for the most part. I don't. I don't know anything to be definitive in this instance, because there are a lot of, you know, look, first and foremost horses have to come first. Right. But logistics come into play here. People have book, hotel rooms people have booked flights. Tickets have been sold for months for months. You know, breeders cups destination Breeders Cup the bucket list. Cups an absolute bucket list item. A lot of fans. I know a lot of fans that, that tell me the breeders cups higher than the derby, or the Belmont or Preakness. I live at I live pros. I live at Belmont Park VS Christine sheets. I do I I've lived in New York my whole life. And coming out the Belmont going to Saratoga is great. But if you are a horse racing fan, and you have the means you got to get to the Kentucky Derby once in your life. You gotta do it. Is it a little more expensive than the other a little more expensive to this? But. You're saving. That's, that's that is. If you're a horse racing fan, you got gotta go to their be. Once at least, once, and you could do it extravagantly and, you know, you could do it on a on a shoestring budget. And you gotta have you're going to, you know. You're gonna make some. Concessions. But you gotta do you gotta get to the Kentucky Derby, once try to triple crown. I got the triple grandma wait. Oh, nine it was to greatest experience of my life. And you couldn't have had more different, right? Big favourite wins the derby, the Preakness big Brown comes here Z's in the Belmont Stakes at one to five whatever you went off. The next year you see history. Rachel wins the Preakness. Right mine that bird, one of the biggest prices mystery derby. So they were two completely different experiences. And you know. You know again, if you have the means and I don't even mean that financial. Who can take off four days for derby week and two days Preakness, three days for Belmont Stakes racing festival, 'cause if you do what you want to do with the right way. You wanna go for a few days everywhere. I that's that's the allure of the breeders cups to phenomenal days of racing. Get in on Thursday night out Sunday that all goes into the thought process, and but I don't think any of it comes at the expense of the horse. I think that if that Breeders Cup stays at Santa Anita. 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Equine Forum - September 19th 2020

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

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Equine Forum - September 19th 2020

"From the rail to your radio. This is the horse racing radio network. Thank. Sake Ball. Hot that Appears the. That's one. Coming to the poll in the Toyota. Brass Swiss skydiver. Fighting on art collector is right there art collector ahead and. A half linked to the good sixteenth poll art collector. Brian Hernandez junior to win the Toyota bluegrass. Welcome to the equine forum. Close the Lauren prompt with respect. Say. He's left. The others may behind it's changed the law he. Speaks. He's GonNa Happy. Feet there's devil strikes the front of the Gates Bowl Swiss crews trying hard, but she's still second dot today four mean it is. There's a double turning back Swiss. Come in and all the rest she'd there's the devil scores in the oaks. Now, here's Mike Peta. Below everyone good morning and welcome to the show that launched this network that is equal or by the horse racing. Radio Network. Mike Penn, apparent the backstretch back with you this morning across North America on Sirius to nineteen. Xm To a one on our affiliates in Lexington Louisville and across the country and coming to you digitally with our live streaming or podcasts at the show on our website at horse racing radio dot net. Bit of a chilly start to this Saturday morning here in the bluegrass temperatures hovering right around forty three degrees at the moment at eight am eastern. It is a cool start in it. With that feeling of fall in the air in the air, which by the way officially begins early next week it makes you think of the Breeders Cup, the Breeders Cup coming to Keeneland. November sixth and Seventh Forty, seven days sixteen hours fifty seven minutes away from the Breeders Cup. World Championships were only fourteen days away from the preakness stakes in Baltimore Maryland. Of course, we are going to have exclusive radio coverage of both of those events for you right here on H. R. N. You can head over to our website. Horse racing radio. Dot. Net to see complete preakness and Breeders Cup week broadcast schedule speaking of preakness. We'll get the Breeders Cup here in a minute, but speaking of breeders ca speaking of preakness. Several preakness hopefuls working this morning at Churchill downs art collector was on the track short time ago. Worked five furlongs fifty, nine point four zero he seems to be in good form at least in his morning work. After missing the Kentucky Derby thousand words. The horse that flipped in the paddock right before the Kentucky Derby Five furlongs one O, two, point four, zero. An authentic the Derby winner is set to go to the track at nine o'clock eastern for Bob Baffert this morning. So we'll get a chance to see him and see how he prepares in that final. Work. For the preakness. Stakes Tis. The. Law. Beaten favored in the Derby of course, the horse everybody had their eye on coming into the run for the roses. Will work early to mid next week according to owner Jack Knowlton after conversing with trainer Barclay Tag, he'll work early to mid next week, a decision will be made on the preakness. After that workout. So that catches you up on all the preakness news as we have it so far right up to date. In terms of Breeders Cup all is. No doubt will be focused on our friends north of the border at Woodbine. This entire weekend, you have three Breeders Cup challenge races that are GonNa take place over the course of the next two days. You have the great one. Woodbine. Mile. Today. Posted Five, thirty, nine eastern. That's win and you're in for the Breeders Cup Mile You had the Thomas Stakes and the summer stakes tomorrow the Natalia. A winning you're in for the juvenile fillies turf the summer. A winning your end for the juvenile turf division. I'm GonNa Talk to Woodbine Handicapper Jeff Brat coming up at nine forty eastern hill preview. All the stakes action coming up, it would by can't wait to catch up with him and toxin. Winning your inaction. The great one Belmont Oaks Invitational is also today that is not. A winning you're in for the Breeders Cup but wouldn't be surprised to see one or two of these phillies go onto the Breeders Cup. It's a short feel the five. There three zero phillies are GonNa, go a mile and a quarter. And because of the short field, it's going to be early. Keep that mind the Belmont Oaks invitatinal race five, three, Oh four eastern as the post. Magic, attitude. MAKES HER U S debut trainer. Arnaud Delacour. And figures divide for favoritism in that race with the bill trained Antoinette that should be a great showdown. Arnaud Delacour is going to be here nine twenty eastern time second half of the program to talk about magic attitude. And what he does with a horse that he gets. into his care for the very first time. Coming up to a grade one race. How do you do that? Now we'll talk to Arno later in the program. I'm going to start the show by looking ahead to the Churchill downs September meet which opened on Thursday. It runs through September twenty, seven, th the short meet leading into the Keelan meet which will open. On Friday October second. I'll talk with assisting assistant racing secretary in stakes coordinator Dan Bork. At Eight, fifteen this morning. After this first commercial break I'll get a chance to talk the Dan and look ahead to everything happening at Churchill downs over the next couple of weeks eight, thirty five. I'M GONNA welcome in a very popular. An extremely well known guest for what? May Be one of his final appearances on the show. This dates back to when I first started on radio nearly twenty years ago. That's the Godfather Tony Deanna from the Lexus door of Lexington and I say. that it may be one of his final appearances on the show because he has officially. Retired from the LEX store. And he's GonNa look back on. So many of the Great. Horse, people. That, he's had the opportunity to get to know during his decades of work at Lexus, the Godfather moniker that we bestowed upon Tony. Many many years ago. Has Stuck with them at. So many of our listeners have told me that they have gone to the lexus door of Lexington. And asked for the Godfather, we just WanNa meet the Godfather. and. That's pretty cool. So I'll get a chance to talk to Tony. Eight thirty, five, eastern time and finally. You may have read the news. About the fire. That consumed in pretty much gutted the grandstand it shuttered. Green Mountain Park in. Vermont. This past Wednesday. That fire took place forty four years almost to the day. After the final thoroughbred race was contested at the track. September twelfth of Nineteen Seventy six. You. Remember that that track. Then hosted greyhound racing after the thoroughbreds were done, they continued on Greyhound racing until the early nineteen nineties, but they remained vacant. Since that time I've driven by it. On many occasions being from that part of the country going back home I grew up twenty seven miles south. Upon oh Vermont in Pittsfield Massachusetts. So I remember Green Mountain very very well, of course, as I was growing up, it was pretty much all greyhounds. But he asked me, why is that a story barren? Why are we talking about that the track? Been Open since the nineteen nineties. Early nineties. And they haven't had thoroughbreds since nineteen, seventy six. Over. The nearly. Twenty years that I have been broadcasting horse racing radio I have met so many people who have spent time at tracks in that part of the country. Including Green. Mountain. You had the fair circuit in Massachusetts that was. Booming at one point. You also had Rockingham Park in southern New Hampshire. and. If you recall loose Smith, who was the owner of Rockingham Park. Founded Green Mountain and then started racing thoroughbreds there in nineteen, sixty, three in. For those of you who have never had the chance. To See. Green Mountain Park in its day one of the. Most Pristine. Racing venues that we had in the sport. Kind of nestled in those hills of Vermont. Mountains of Vermont it was special. In nineteen sixty eight green mountain became the first race track on the East Coast to host. Sunday racing. And then in nineteen seventy, three, four years after Lewis, Smith, had passed away the Rooney family a Pittsburgh steelers fame. Bought the track which soon became the first track in the country. To host thoroughbred standard bread, and Greyhound. Racing. It has its place. In thoroughbred racing history. And at nine o'clock eastern I'm going to visit with Michael blowing the founder of old friends. To. Look back on Green Mountain. Shearson his memories. He was there a lot when racing was taking place? And he always has amazing story. So I'm looking forward to that visit at nine o'clock eastern time this morning. So here's the guest line of Dan, bork eight fifteen. After our first break he'll talk about Churchill. Downs you have the Godfather Tony Out Diano from the Lexus store Michael Blown from old friends looking back on Green Mountain at nine o'clock are no. delacour. Looking ahead. To the Belmont Oaks invitational. And Jeff Brat from Woodbine at nine forty eastern time. To take a look at the big races north of the border coming up this weekend all the wind in your inaction and in between all of that our industry star of the week presented by Stuart. Morris we have our visit with four rows Bourbon and the folks there Brent Elliott, the master distiller you'll hear from him talking about the small batch select that they produce. At four roses. So all of that coming up. But. This is also. National talk like a pirate day and. For those of you who celebrate these types of days I thought, it would be fun to wind back the clock to June thirteenth two, thousand, twelve nobody. In the sport of thoroughbred racing. Could talk like a pirate like the incomparable Tom. Durkin. Outside here comes. Top of the stretch coming into the final furlong. Now in between nurses crafty CJ with an era lead our continues to fight on the outside. It's good to be king and blazing. And then finally back let allies guy they're coming down to the finish and it's our. A. Little Wise. Guy. was second in blazing Louis there. Maybe the best part of that call forget about the ours they were spectacular but The way he paused after our cross the finish. Line. And then just took it back normally to the other horses that were second and third. Only Tom Durkin could pull that off and it was. Getting. Ready for the show and I realized it was national talk like a pirate day as that I have to pull up that call Tom Durkin June thirteenth two thousand, twelve one of the great. Fun Time Durkan calls of all time. No doubt about it. So that leads me to the poll question before I get to this first mercer break what is your favorite National Day to celebrate? I'll give you a few choices. These are my here. He got here are three of the ones I like. You have talk like a pirate day. Burger Day who doesn't like Burger Day. And My choice in here. Day. Those are the three, and then of course, the fourth category is other Gore twitter feed at H. R. N. Cast Your Vote. Now an update the poll question what is your favorite National Day to celebrate? Talk like a pirate day. Burger Day red wine day or other, and if you choose other, let me know let me know whether what other day you like to celebrate. It seems like we have a day for everything now. So let's have a little fun with that poll question this morning when I come back Dan bork assistant racing secretary of stakes coordinator Churchill downs looks ahead to the September meet. That's next on. Equine Forum on. H. R. N.. 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You're listening to the Equine Forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network but aperture looms on the outside and here comes temperature. Now putting in a bid up and a second about the take the lead, even my orcas coming on from fern he comes up on the fire outside and his top of the stretch now and cafeterias in front of Jackson hanging tough toward the rail from my arcus. Kinda get by shifting outside or to make up on Capitol one for on less comes before my wife got trying to run down taffer. Pigs. Don T Turkey rail. Has Been By a world back down and temperature dead. Pitcher the winter even though it was second half tracks was third and midnight trauma is for. Travel Stone with the call, the two, thousand, fifteen running heavy act act stakes capture getting the victory for hall of fame trainer, Steve Asmussen who by the way. is also the all time leading trainer at Churchill downs he earned that title. Earlier. Over the summer and t will no doubt be pointing for this year's ack-ack I'm sure with the. From that unbelievable barn that he has that the September meat is in full swing a kicked off on Thursday and we'll run through next Sunday. The AC will be run next Saturday. That is the lone remaining stakes race that Churchill has on the docket for the September meet, and then we'll segue into keeneland and then of course, right back to Churchill downs in November, and I'm joined now by Assistant Racing Secretary and stakes coordinator Dan Bork at Churchill downs, Dan Good Morning. Morning Mike, how are you today? I'm good. My friend did. Bit Chilly here in the Bluegrass but the horse's like it i. saw several preakness hopefuls on the track this morning at Churchill Yeah I think we're getting ready to watch the Derby winner head out here in a few minutes if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, you know let let's start there for a minute Dan and just share your thoughts on what we saw on Derby. Day, it was look I mean everything is different this year and It was challenging in some respects but you know Churchill put everything together pulled it off beautifully and I think in terms of the wagering and what we saw with the racing action in that card things taint things came together pretty damn well. Yeah, there's no question that came together very well all things considered. You know what's been going on. in racing this year with covert and all that I just think it was turned out to be some great great races. With all things considered I, think the Horseman Senior stepped up and supported it and. you know it's not ideal. It's not what we wanted to do but in the end that looks like it's turned out pretty good. Yeah, we're still racing. We're still in business for still giving out purse money. All of those things are very positive even if we can't have fans in attendance yet and have that handle on track and all those types of things that go along with it it least we're still in business, right? Yeah. That's you're right. Absolutely I mean I'll tell you one thing it was very odd being here on Derby Day in September and then obviously no one here standing in the panic or sending out on the you know the rail watching the Derby and there's look up in the sand and there's nobody. That wasn't wasn't pleasant, but it was it the other side at least we were doing it like you said, people were watching at home and we're still running and. Giving out great person money and you know. Doing thing we like to do. Yeah the purse money here in the September meet albeit a very short meet that only runs as I mentioned through next Sunday. September. Twenty seventh. The purse money is rock solid. You have maiden special weight races going for what seventy, five thousand dollar purses and then the allowance races or strong too. Yeah we're averaging Post Derby over four hundred and fifty thousand a day so. Somewhere in the range of four and a half million dollars, we're going to give away post there be. obviously pre derby. We we stepped it up a little bit when the big steak schedule, eighteen stake races and. You know almost ten million dollars in purses or state purses alone so We we did ramp up Derby Week, and we have the one lone steak left the the AC which she offered the prepped for the breeders got my own. And see what comes out of that the winner is GonNa. So we've got a lot to look forward to the rest of this meeting and obviously coming up till November and Breeders, Cup. So I think the Bluegrass is going to be good place to be here for the next few months. Yeah. There's no doubt about it when I look the September meat is a little bit of acquire to meet especially this year coming on the heels of the Derby which was rescheduled for early. September and then. Looking ahead to Keeneland, and then up the road. November as you just mentioned to Dan when you're approaching a meat like this, especially in this year with all the conditions that were facing. The, how how do you have to change your approach in there in the racing office and when you're hustling horses into the act when you're trying to get horses into the races day in and day out? Is it a different challenge that you're facing this year? Well for sure this year with the way the September Michel I mean the September thinks built fairly new here. So that's and it's been going well, it's been getting stronger and stronger every year this year. It's been a little different you know with covert and then the dates moving around with their be week and you know LS giving up. Derby that Labor Day weekend, and then obviously you got Kentucky downs in the next two. So they're coming off a great meet there. So I think just a lot of people. On all as have been focusing in on Kentucky so. It's all turning out to be good I. mean the main goal is we get a Lotta horses here. We got people looking at Kentucky and you know that's what we're trying to do. So it's it's working, and that's hopefully we'll build on that and keep going strong for an extra. Yeah you heard me welcome you into the show here today with that call of the two thousand fifteen ACA capture winning Steve Asmussen. He's tied with Barbie Barnett Bill Ma and Paul Magee with two wins in that race is he planning to saddle anything in this year's act you know? That's a good question. He's got several nominated. He's got bank. It has got Simon. He's got a few I'm not sure exactly which one is going to be running it but I'm planning on having something in there and I think it's GonNa be a really great race but in Wilkes Bourbon calling. Brad's plan on running warriors charge you got Mr Money most seeped Arrojo one last year. Last year's Aker maybe the Lucas Classic. Think he went last year so he'll be bad. So yeah, I think it's going to be a great great. Yeah. You know the timing of that race is interesting too it Kinda if fits if you're you're right before all the big Breeders Cup prep races coming up at keeneland in Belmont and around the country the following weekend. But for those who are thinking, okay, we don't want to take on the big boys necessarily yet. This is A. This is a perfect spot for them and you're looking ahead to the Breeders Cup. Dirt. Mile. As you said, this is a great prep race for that I think if you're if you're looking for a spot to run your horse to prep for that particular race in the Breeders Cup, it just fits perfectly. Doesn't it? Yeah, and that's what they're for. It's not a great one. It's not a great to it's a it's a salad grade three. And you know that's the caliber voices we get in there, and there may be somebody jumps up and stands out, and then obviously looks forward to going to the Breeders Cup So it's it's served well, the last few years as that and You know this you're normally we run the Lucas classic the same time you know the money but this year we didn't. We just left it with the the AC and obviously randy I she but last weekend so or two weeks ago. Yeah you look at the names of some of the horses that have won the ack-ack in recent years there's some pretty big names you have seeking the sole Tom's radio I mentioned Tapa -ture pants on fire won the race in two thousand thirteen. There have been some really good horses to come through that race. Yeah and I. Would expect the same this year as well. So like I said, it's it's got got thirty nine horses nominated to it and. I'm hoping we get a full field in there and it looks like we will. Act Again, next Saturday racing wrapping up on. Sunday. At Churchill for the September meet Dan just take a quick second here before i. Let you go and look ahead to the November meet just some of the stakes that will see their I know the Clark is obviously the big one but that's a huge day of racing to. There's there's a lot of big stakes races coming up at Churchill in November. Oh for sure I, mean. In November, we've got the you know the river city, great three, the car no the false said city. Obviously the two year old weekend. The falls are the stars of tomorrow with the Jockey Club and the Goldenrod towards the end of meat, and then of course, the great one, Clark. and we'll be putting that stakes out here. Probably today we're just finalizing that and we should have air conditioning book out here soon for that too so Yeah, November meet. Another one looking forward to that too so. It would be very nice to have a a normal a normal meet in terms of the dates to own it. Yeah Well Yeah I'm decides that. The Breeders Cup Ra back and forth there for one week. Yet you know it's a little odd with with the dates. Start here on the twenty fifth and twenty eight we finished and then go to the keeneland from sorry. The fifth we finished, and then we run keeneland Breeders Cup weekend sixth and seventh, and then back here to finish out the rest of November. Does that help the when the Breeders Cup is in Kentucky whether it's at Churchill or keeneland that horses after they run in the Breeders Cup will stick around and stay in states I don't travel back and forth especially this year with all of the the Cova concerns they can stay here and then they can run at Churchill in November just seems tailor-made doesn't it? Yeah I mean that's that's our ideas to try to get a couple of horses from the Breeders Cup of point towards the the Clark. So as the end of the meat. And the false city as well. So. It's a little short but. We keep them here. At, least they're closer here than it would be if they've running somewhere else. Makes, does make it easier? Talking with Dan Board, the assistant racing secretary stakes coordinator at Churchill downs, Dan our poll question this morning I'm GonNa put you on the spot. It is national talk like a pirate day. So I asked people, what is your favorite National Day to celebrate, and here's a few choices. Talk like a pirate day. Burger Day red wine day or other. So if you had to pick your favorite national day to celebrate what stand BORK GONNA PICK A. Burger Day. That's no brainer. Yeah. Who doesn't like Brian Day Right I. Guess Pizza Day with a good one to. Pizza, we'll take that. Actually. Well. It's a little early for wind day, but I'll maybe take that too. Yeah. There you go. We'll take. I should have put that on their burger and we can combine the two they go well together. Yeah and it's still bearing their to. We can go. Yeah this this could be fun Dan Bork with me here on hr Dan listen appreciate it my friend and enjoy the September meet I'll look forward to hopefully getting a chance to see in person at Keeneland Come on over. Right. Bud. Thank you my. Dan Bork here. H. Yeah. Why not? Burger Day in red wine day together. I don't know if I've ever seen a mixed together but. Why not that'd be a? Pizza Day in red wine day. Anything but. Like chicken. Right. Or maybe. Fish. Anything other than that would red wine. Nine people that have red wine with anything it doesn't really matter but Yeah good stuff from Dan. Bork and that meet again running through next Sunday. my wife actually pointed out during that last commercial break my beautiful wife Michelle that because it's national talk like a pirate day I should refer to H.. R. R. N. and do it in that fashion throughout the entire show but Now maybe we'll see it is time for your lexus legends of the turf brought to you every Saturday by the lex store of Lexington When I come back, I will visit with the Godfather Tony Danno from the Lexus store. That's next right after your Alexis legends of the turf nine horses answered the call to post in early May of nineteen, Fifty, seven, four, the running of the singular most famous race in America. The Kentucky Derby the drama had unfolded in part on the early morning hours on that Saturday on Churchill's backstretch at seven in the morning when candyman firms General Duke. Stood blanketed in the Isle of Barn Fifteen While Veterinarian Alex Harthill and trainer Jimmy Jones listed as lifted his left foreleg to examine area which had been the subject of speculation and concern. Since he'd come back from a second place finish to Federal Hill and the Derby trial, the previous Tuesday a little bit sore. The final call was up to Jones and even though it was only a bruise, it was pretty sore general duke had blown out a quarter in twenty four that morning and show nothing toward in his movement in that outing but he limped ever so slightly while being cooled ow. Ten in the morning, the decision was made Dan, General? Duke. Would not go posted this day in the run for the roses and the field were bold ruler Indian Creek Gallon Man Federal Hill. Better Be Shan. Pec Roundtable Iron Legion Mr Jive. It was a chilly day in the Rubber City of Louisville, the temperature hovering in the forties and that gave cost to the holding down of both the crowd and the mutual handle. Bold ruler was a sixty five time favorite with both gala Manon Roundtable highly regarded this challengers with general duke out of the race. The other half of the county met Entry Iron Liege was far less regarded. And was eight to one post time starter Jim Thomson got to feel the way the one excellent start Federal Hill trying to give. Louisville its first hometown, Winstons Old Rosebud in nineteen fourteen quickly stepped to the front as expected down the long straight and Enrique the hallowed twin spires past the Sandal the time it was federal. Hill bold ruler Iron Legion round table. In that order on around the turn, they maintain the same positions where the first top going and forty-seven flap down the backside both the front running Federal Hill and bowl ruler drifted out a little bit that left just enough room down along the fence let the Wiley Bill. Send Iron Liege along with a hop link of the lead. The first six panels have been covered in one eleven to as they approached the far turn Federal Hill scientists back in toward the rail in heart tech fearing he would be shut off took up a little bit and decided to go hunting around the front runner was Federal Hill by three parts of iron. Lesion bold ruler. As they hit top of the stretch, our tech had utilized another Poi- about crafty rain Zeman by using both Federal Hill and bowl ruler as a windbreak or part of. The run down the backstretch and there was a stiff breeze blowing down the backside add in. So doing it saved as much of his horse as he possibly could midway through the turn hardback, turned his mouth up a notch and that brought him up abreast of Federal Hilas to match strides on down to the three sixteen poll Iron Liege game bit by bit and a half length lead at the eighth pole. But Bill Shoemaker had gallon men going full throttle and he was eating up ground with every stride on the outside. He was not only a hop link. Behind Federal Hill, and unlike behind the leader Iron Liege, he had been seventh after hop some thirteen links out of it. It goes to fifth just fiber optic leader Federal Hill. It's a quarter pole and was picking them up and Langham down passing sources just inside the eighth pole he passed Federal Hill and took dead aim at iron, Liege with roundtable out bird at the sixteen Paul Gallen men had shoved his nose in front of iron, Liege and appeared to be an absolutely certain winter. Wait just one minute shoemakers stood up in the irons mistaking the finish. Line that momentary lapse cost him the victory by long nose as recovered to get back in full stride too late iron liege, the second-stringer heart technology the first of his eventual six derby scores and catch at racking up at six. Derby winner at upset the dope it was memorable for a couple of reasons first of all the absence of General Duke and more importantly the miscalculation of shoemaker who stood up a sixteen too soon and may nineteen fifty seven in the Kentucky Derby most memorable moment in thoroughbred racing and in its own way a great moment in racing. Visionary. design. This role performance and imaginary technology that's Lexus when every detail every moment at every emotion is crafted by Lexus, it leads to amazing experience artistry than Inspires, design that compels and engineering that excites. 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Welcome back everybody Mike. Pennant, Berna, the Backstretch, the Godfather Ladies and gentlemen for what may be one of his final appearances here on the equine. Forum. Tony this relationship goes back about twenty years. Now, when I first started on radio, we walked in to the Lexus store of Lexington Myself and my late mentor. Pete coolest. We sat down with you in the office at the former location of the Lexus tour which was on Nicholasville road. And right away we hit it off. We spent more than an hour talking about horse racing and it's been a relationship. I love unbelievable have to tell you. This is called what talk like a New York, Italian Belmont Right. So you WANNA. Yeah. How New York Italians talk at Beaumont and it walking around they looking at a horse they're looking at the beautiful women and all of a sudden you is something like this. Yeah. Hey, my own. Can You? Tell you it. Let me tell you Tony. You have what was how long I mentioned this the top the show. Let me reiterate you have just announced your official retirement from the Lexus tour of Lexington, and you did that night end of August the end of holiday. How long were you there? Nineteen years. I said it was nearly two decades about right. So when I walked in your office, you had just Nineteen years and I figured well listen. I just turned eighty you know I. Don't know if I'M GONNA. Make Eighty one but I feel pretty good. Let's see what happens but the way the world is going right I gotTA. Tell You I think I'll be talking with Adam pretty soon. We'll. There are so many unbelievable people in the horse business. So many people that have come up to me over the years over the past twenty years now and said, Hey, listen I have to go meet the Godfather I had can you put me in touch with the Godfather at Lexus and how many times do people walk through the doors there and say, Can I talk to the Godfather Oh? Especially when I And you know my poor receptionist she look at me and she's Tony can't talk to you is what? Lady just called came in and said. I have to speak to the Godfather. So. What's wrong with that? Because WHO's the guide for you're talking to the Godfather right here where is she pointed out? Yeah Yeah. I mean, it was hysterical but the people here in this town I mean I I love Lexington Kentucky and you know I love the people in the Horse Business I mean you you. You just find a different breed of human being and People that work in the business or people that go to the tracks on a regular basis. There's something. Mystical about the racetrack. And the farms and there's something mystical about it 'cause you're working with the horse. And the Horse can communicate with you they really. Can I know a lot of people who don't know the business? Don't know stock. They think I'm going crazy. Well, two-thirds crazy but. They they really do and You know when they see you come in in the morning and you might have a little piece of an apple for them. Something they they. They love you I, mean they start talking to. Sounds Great. Yeah. Well, and and people were a member that we've talked about this on the show many times godfather that you're a horse person first and foremost in. So many of the people at the lex store is still to this day I mean there are people that support horse racing I talked about the keeneland shop at the Lexus store the Lexus Raven run at Keeneland LEXA sponsors every fall Right? You know it's something that it's passionate to you at a deeper level than just trying to sell cars. Well. My Mikey is probably the closest and He's no longer with us But. Other than that. Isn't that too many people you know it again it's an interesting industry. It really is they they love the people they love the horsemen and and and the Horse people that come in 'cause they're they're easy to deal with You know they don't they don't WanNa be wined and dined and whatever. But that's what we do. We wine and dine people okay and I mean it's it's just like you're you're you're not in a claiming race when you come into the Lexus store. You're in a stakes race so And it's the Lexus Raven run stakes. And putting together with Nick Nicholson was. One of the great thrills in my life it really and truly was and. I just love it. I love the people love the animal You know you. So, many people to lose money you lose money doing anything. You could use have a chance of winning money do. and start thinking like a winner not thinking like a loser. Yep But. You had some horses in your day that were. Pretty. Darn. Good to see. You know not like great one level, but you had some really nice horses in you battled through some. And the game just been. Guys like you and and coolest I mean. You guys were class. act. The first time I laid my eyes on you. I mean, you coolest was unbelievable but you know him, I mean, God rest his soul. Their stories were unbelievable whenever we talk about New York. He would talk about Hugh, gardens? Now. For people who don't know much about New York. Q. Gardens. was where all the? Great looking stewardesses. Always had a you know that's where they they had They bet it down for the night. You know they had ruin layovers. Yeah. So when he I don't about you gardens and great bars, great bars. So you and in those days. Stewardess was like a showgirl. I mean they were beautiful. Absolutely. Beautiful. SORTA slipped you know. Right now. But well, you know. What? One Thing Godfather that that you and I talked about all the time and every time I come in and see you at the Lexus door for visitor was you tell me about the people that you had the chance to meet people like for example Ken Ramsey right who who would come in and he was Alexis owner Chris McCarron right. Also came I remember talking to Chris and and he would commit and see you. Tell me about some of those people that came into the Lexus store that you had the chance to get to know in the horse business. we we we had so many guys I mean because you know it was interesting when I first started with them. I spoke to at that time was not Nick Nicholson. run MacAulay. was with us and I said to him you know so. How how do you guys do with with the Horse people on the track and the arms and? Well, we don't do anything with them at all. It's why. Actually you know this is the the horse capital of the world, the world. I mean. Piece of what do you want to do? I said, let me take a car go visit some of the farms and you know one day one day they're going to the track in the morning. And you know I hated to the horsemen. Tough way of making a living folks really, and truly is and I appreciate their effort because it's not an eight hour day job to your trainer or or groom more or you work on a farm it's how ever long it's good to take. That's what it is. And you better make sure 'cause these are worth a lot of money and you have a lot of. Very, very well to do people that have invested heavily into these animals so You take care of that, and then we started getting People in. And it was. It was great. So. So If you had any questions about horses goal that Guy Tony up over read Lexus. But I don't think he's going to give you a customer or anything I. Anybody Go with a an inferior product. I mean, yeah. I in the by or develop the the best racehorse in the world. Well, I'm giving you an opportunity to drive the car in the world. That simple. Yeah. Mike, you drive driving one and you know and you've been one for years. Of Yours, it's it's spectacular and you know you and I have had this conversation I've talked about Lexus on the show for many many years I hope to continue to talk about Lexus, because the product is second to none but you know we always say in those commercials, Tony that the people make the difference and they do now the. Way. Yeah in the ties to the horse business, make it even stronger for people here on the Bluegrass and Tell. Me about the keeneland shop that's at the Lexus store how how did that come about? All the the the Qinglin shop. Yeah. Well when I put the race together. And we were building that building at that time. name was coming. WAS IT It was Nick Nick. Nicholson Nick Nicholson. Yeah. He was coming in and he says, you know this what are you gonNa put in that area you know the pipes were coming down everything we've built from scratch that'll stop. So I said I. Think. You know the owners want to put in a coffee shop over here. I actually think that would be the nicest what what's The wall 'cause I don't know I guess we'll try to get some somebody to come in whatever. Saying since Well. How `bout the? gained. He may have keenly. I. Love Qinglin you gotTa be kidding me, what do you mean? What do you want to? Happen of we come in there and we pay rent. You know we'll have a keeneland store. Said let me talk to Rick I can't say why we wouldn't want to do it. And that's how it came about and we're the only keeneland store that's off of the The reservation put it that way. And it's been. It's been great because we get a lot of older people that are flying back and forth or whatever, and if they're sitting there and they're going to the keeneland store and they'll buy some stuff with the grandchildren or something for their children whatever you know. I mean. So it's all. Product identification and. All keeneland, and again, if it's you buy something from the store, you know it's quality. Again, it's about the people, right? Yep. Yeah. The people the quality of the product it all ties together with with Tony Alexa the store in the Godfather and Doni I gotta get to a commercial break in a minute. I just want to tell you that I wanNA. Thank you publicly for everything that you have done for me personally from Michelle, and for this particular program this network it's been a wonderful relationship and again I hope it continues. For many many years but I think personally because. When you climb the trees, which is shotgun be careful. Don't fall out. Okay. All right. I'll see you on these things I'll do my best side at that. I will do my best friend. It'd be. Godfather. Thank you for everything. Thank you for taking a little time here. This morning to look back on that wonderful career Lexus and enjoy a retirement my friend. Many many heavy. Thank you. Thank you. Right God, bless the the Godfather Tony out the Ano and yeah when I when I tell you. Every single week in their commercials that it's about the people that the people make the difference in you heard Tony Talk, about the quality of the product with with Lexus. Vehicles. He's one hundred percent right but the people are what set it apart you know he he referred to it as not being a claiming race. When you walk in there you're in you're in a grade one you're in a stakes race when you walk in that Alexa store of Lexington I love the way he put that and he'll be missed no doubt of you have come up to me over the years and said, hey, how do I can you introduce me to the Godfather? How do I go see the Godfather? Well, he'll be missed but he'll still be around in the we wish all the best in that retirement. Great stuff. All right. Still. The Common GonNa visit with Michael, blowing from old friends will join me to kick off the second half of the show. We'll talk about Green Mountain Park, which had that devastating fire take place this past week Arnaud Delacour will be with me to look ahead to the grade one, Belmont Invitational Jeff. Brat the handicap woodbine will preview all the big races coming up this weekend north of the border, all of that in the second half of the show. But when I return, it's your industry star of the week presented by Stuart Morris. This forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network Your home for the twenty twenty triple crown and Breeders Cup power count. Passion. Z.. Winning by about a Neg-, also performance. Gains Waist. down. County a precocious group on winter is a two year old and a three time grade one winner including a scintillating win and the Breeders Cup Mile in one, thirty, two and four fifths Karen. Conte. Hails from the immediate family of leading sire King Mambo with a top female line, which includes the hugely influential champion me ask as his third Damn Kerik Conte's first crop of. 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You're listening to the Equine Forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network three quarters of one, twelve three and a closed in, and now they're passing north Broadway, here's call me love their starship jubilee and on the outside it is sister Charlie as the field comes down for the eightfold on the inside call me on the outside it is starship jubilee starship jubilee now takes the lead from Call Me Love Charlie is third they come for the in the Boston spa at it's got day starship jubilee win it by a head call me Love was second sister Charlie finish third the time was one, forty, one and three. Welcome back to the Boreham on H.. R. In. National talk like a Pirate Day h par are and Mike Pence Berna the backstretch. And that was John Embryo with the call of the starship jubilee victory in the Boston spa back on. July twenty fifth of this year. Later today, she'll take on the boys in the grade one woodbine mile a winning your end for the Breeders Cup Mile Division that takes place north of the border at Woodbine in Toronto. It is part of a weekend that includes three Breeders Cup challenge races. You haven't had an atomic and the summer stakes tomorrow and post time for the Woodbine Mile Today Five, thirty, nine, eastern I'll talk with Jeff Brat nine, forty eastern time this. Morning that's the handicap woodbine Jaffa Walk through all those stakes races and share his thoughts on who he thinks is going to win But time now to welcome in another talented staffer to the program, our industry star of the week, which is presented by Stuart Morris and that is Meredith Krupp who is involved with consigning horses. She just launched her first public consignment. She has been an integral part of this game for the past couple of years, and she's with me now here on the horse racing radio network as our industry star of the week. Meredith Good Morning. Good Morning. How are you? things are great. How are things with you? They're good. They're rolling at the sale they're they're busy. Yeah, a different type of sale this year you're used to the hustle and bustle and having so many people around and they're still people there but it's not it's not the same vibe. Is it? No, it's definitely not the same vibe unfortunately, but you know I think it's better than what a lot of us expected I think phasing and Caitlyn have done a great job at still making it conducive to. Buyers and sellers while making us. All safe. So I think they've done their best effort and you know as much change as there's been I think they tried their best to make it as little change as possible for the Horse Sale. Will Merit at this segment is all about you because you are industry star of the week and Stewart was kind enough to pass along your number. He said listen she's a rising star in the business. We have to make our industry star of the week at some point. So here you are congratulations on that honor and Take me back to the beginning here tell me your story and how you came to be involved in the Horse Business and where we are today. Well I I gotta say I appreciate that from Stewart he's a good friend of ours and he is a constant cheerleader of other people in this industry and that's kind of hard to find especially when you're young. So I really appreciate Stuart and he's always been very kind to me and and routed me on. So that's very nice of him but I grew up in Cincinnati. Ohio. Near actually only three or four miles from river down I'll probably never call it bell tear it always be river down for me and my dad. He loves the track and love horses and loved racing and He was in the heavy machinery business, and so he you know knew about agriculture but he was always taking me to the race track at River Down I. was like ten or eleven years old and we'd go there even middle of the day and you know he'd. At that time he he'd send me to the window. He'd be sitting at a table and he sent me the window and say. All right but these horses and I want to dollar exact the box and still to this day that's the that's the but I make. So I think that's really when I got my edge for horses in general and then. I. road sport horses up until college and wrote for the team at UK and. I majored in business and I think I wanted to combine the two and so when I went to my first sale when I was a senior in college, you know thoroughbred sales teams like the best of both worlds you get the horses and the business and the Hustle and bustle and the selling and all that. So that's kind of when I got the edge for the sales was when I was a senior in college. You know I just had the godfather from Alexis tour of Lexington Tony Out. Diano with me in the previous segment, and he talked about the fact that this sport is a twenty, four, seven, seven days a week, three, hundred, sixty, five day year commitment, and you have to be in it, and you have to be part of it and you have to be passionate about it. You obviously are, what's the most rewarding part for you about being involved with the industry the way that you are. I think for me. It's raising the horses. You know I think it's we we pull them out of their Mama and and we do the breeding and were there and you know the long nights and and waking up in the middle of the night and the for Foley fix and you know for me I, I'm really passionate about raising them and bringing them to the sale and I think my fiancee and I are really. He's very passionate as well about raising a good racehorse. You know we obviously want them to sell well but at the end of the day, we want him to go to the track and do what they're meant to do and be tough and compete against the best. So I think for me it's just raising good. Horse is the best part for me. How cool is it to finally have your first consignment about a month ago or so? It's it is. It's very cool You know we actually have Jay was a part of select sales. For eleven years and I joined them when I was young and I was with them for five or six years, and they really took me under their wing and a lot of pretty much everything I know is from you know Kerry Brogdon Andrew Carey over there and I gotta give them a lot of credit. They always really supported me and. Jay My fiance's very supportive and when that company dissolved and we joined eaten, we've always done these regional sales in Louisiana and and Florida. and. We have clients there that we have to support and they send the big horses to Kentucky. But we have to support them in their regional bread programs as well and when you know eating when we joined eating and they, they aren't really designed to go to those regional sales jay or why don't you go ahead and we'll do it. Together. So it's you know him and is still going to regional sales on bear. Our Name but we are with eating. Then everything we saw in Kentucky will be with eating but. I mean it's very exciting especially for Jay and I. To be able to do it together. Just the two of US was a lot of fun in Louisiana and and then we went onto Texas under eating and we did very well topping both sales. So that was exciting. Yeah it's been a wonderful ride and I know that ride is still continuing. Many. Had for our to star the week. She is Meredith Krupp and Meredith listen I i. appreciate the visit here this morning Thank you for taking a little time. I know you're busy at the keeneland sale go back in pick out some more winners for people and continued success in again. Congratulations. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Hope you all have a good day. You got it and she mentioned some pretty big names there with the Andrew Carey and Brogden and the folks at Eton. She has learned from some of the best in the business, and now she is taking things to a new level Meredith our industry star of the week presented by Stuart Morris and don't forget that Stewart wants to his owners, his clients and his entire team he knows that. His success is because of you he's never forgotten that it would multiple steak sources over the past several years that include Henley's Joe our brain trust. Mel Ghazi and Kentucky Derby Contender Bend who ran the there are a couple of weeks ago. Stewart is your source for success at the highest levels and you can visit all the stuart. Moore's consignments at every major sale every major yearling sale for sure. Make sure you do that. Make sure you tell Stuart that you heard the industry star of the week segment right here on the horse racing radio, network. All right. Busy second half of the program comes your way next kicks off with Michael, blowing from old friends looking back on Green Mountain we're back with our two right after I pause ten seconds for station identification. This is the horse racing radio network. From the rail to your radio this is horse racing radio network. To Leave, Dr Paused both up with an outside of the second nomadic disturbed as New York Hero. Pin Brecqhou. Much. Thanks probable. His Belt Four. My pleased by my standards. Tom's they talk code of honor. On. Iran Tease Joe. Window. Welcome to the equine forum honore P runs right by that. Dora derail and Rachi sixteenth. Thurgau honor a link to the half authentic rush running on way it will be honore. Of very impressive winner of the run Happy Santa. Anita Derby Tom's daytimes chicken up shaking up to a three length lead by my standards is trying hard but he still second silver dust this third multiplayer trying to come on late for force the with a sixteen to go it's total domination for Tom's Day ta now here's Mike. Welcome back hour number two of the equine forum. Rolling. On busy morning. If you missed any portion of the show, my interview with Churchill Assistant Racing Secretary. Stinks Coordinator Dan Pork, the Godfather toni-ann from the Lexus store or our industry star of the week. Meredith crop. All you have to is head back to our website and you can listen to the entire show at your leisure. That's horse racing radio DOT net. It will be posted shortly after we finish up at ten o'clock eastern this morning second half of the show begins Michael Blowing from friends. He'll share some memories and some thoughts on. Green Mountain Park. which had that devastating fire this past week that pretty much gutted the entire grandstand that was on Wednesday and you remember that Green Mountain has been dormant since the early nineties and it was forty four years almost to the day after the final thoroughbred race was contested at the Tracks Timber Twelfth Nineteen, seventy six that the fire took place this week in It's just for somebody who grew up in that part of the country and New Green Mountain and what it was at least with greyhounds anyway as I was growing up, it's sad to see where it is today. So Michael will look back on. That historic track Arnaud Delacour going to be with me at nine twenty eastern Jeff Brat from woodbine. To handicap the big races there this weekend he'll be with me at nine forty, and of course, our four roses bourbon visit with Brent Elliott the master distiller at four roses poll question this morning. So many of you weighing in at H. R. in on twitter. Keep those votes coming? What is your favorite National Day to celebrate this is national talk like a pirate day. So he gave you a few choices. Well. Do you like talk like a pirate day? You like National Burger Day national red wine day maybe or other and if you choose other please specify which day you prefer so far. Thirty three percent of the vote that is leading this category. thirty-three percent saying that they prefer red wine day. I'd love our listeners across hr a nation. I'm right there with you by the way I voted for red wine. Day to Derby Day. Yeah. There's a good one national Margarita day that strong Turtle Soup Day is what Chris says. Like. That Chris Turtle Soup Day must be from Louisiana. There's another vote for Margarita Day and. No April twentieth. Alright. Keep them coming keep the comments coming at HR and twitter. Well. Michael Bowen is now with me to kick off the second half of the program, Michael Good morning my friend. Good. Morning Mike good to hear from you. Yeah great to have you on the program again, hear your voice and you know I reference at the top of the show when I was talking about Green. Mountain. There is so much history they're going all the way back to. Right after Lou Smith bought the place course the owner of Rockingham park he founded it in ran thoroughbreds there for the first time in nineteen, sixty three. But in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Sixty, eight, green mountain became the first track on the east coast to host Sunday racing and that was just the start of the history that that track would make. Yeah, Lou Smith was a great guy I got to know him towards the end of his reign at Rockingham Park and new was just the greatest guy and not mountains such a beautiful little little track. As you know when you you called, it asked me to be honest started thinking about it when I was a kid growing up, there was seventeen. thoroughbred race tracks in. New England. Polluting Great Barrington and great and Green Mountain and the three county fair and all those straps along with Suffolk and Rockingham Narragansett, and there were seventeen of them, and now there are none. Zero. Zero Zero. It's hard to believe but Green Mountain for anybody who's ever driven by their even when it was. Even when it was abandoned. And the whole place is falling down It's such a beautiful beautiful location I mean. It's it was such a gorgeous little place and. The only thing I can add to what everybody might Welsh is written and a lot of other people have written their their work Dick Green Mountain remind me P coolest. Earlier. You know you know Pete is to go there and miss. You know he was really he was really a great guy and he p pick people was a a marvelous man and and I know he looked green mountain but it was such a gorgeous setting. It's at the bottom of the mountains the green mountains there. One personal. Recollection that I have is I didn't really get involved with raising until after Green Mountain woes. And every year when we drove back from Sharon Toga after opening week at Saratoga Diane. I would go by and we drive. The back way home instead of taking the Massachusetts Turnpike and always go by. Green Mountain Park and every year was Looking a little more desperate, little more desperate, little more desperate. Well in the late. Nineties. I think it was ninety nine or two thousand Howard Dean Governor Vermont and they wanted to have simulcasting at. Green Mountain Park put it in a nice restaurant have simulcasting. So a friend of mine and Spend a group of people put together a plan. to have simultaneous to have live racing at. Green Mountain. the. The weekend before Saratoga Open and the weekend that Saroj after shower tober closed. So people on their way to Saratoga or back from Saratoga, we'd have the opportunity to do this, and the concept was would have green racing. You know drugs no whips only racing on the grass. And make it into a sixty day. You know really cool. Little Meat and And and then Vermont could have simulcasting and they could open up the restaurant all year round and do all that kind of thing. We pretty much had the deal put together but at the end, the the price kept going up. Every time we turned around and we thought we had made arrangements to purchase that detract the. The the price kept going up until it got out of sight, and then that was the end of our involvement with it and I don't know how many people try to open it up since then but that was Came pretty close. Howard. Dean really wanted to do it. Yeah, yeah. You know it's it's. It's sad that that didn't come together Michael I know that there were many attempts over the years since Green Mountain had closed in the early nineties to try to revitalize the race track and people look at getting involved and it just for whatever reason want one reason or another never materialized but you know going back to its heyday. Back, after the Rooney family took over, which was right around nineteen seventy-three, I guess and of course, people would know the Rooney's is the owners of the Pittsburgh steelers. They bought the track they've been very involved with not just green mountain, but several race tracks in our in the country and. So many people that I've talked to over the years that have worked at. Green Mountain. Couldn't say enough about that family and the efforts that they made to make racing successful at that track and all the other tracks. No I totally agree I mean when they talk about what's happening with racing now oftentimes, people don't mention that but the people that ran racing. You know when when Suffolk was in his heyday and when Rockingham was in his heyday really loved Grayson. And you know there's the ruling family and the. The goal race and you can go on and on and on. What they were really dedicated to. To racing. And now, there's a lot of absentee ownership and you know just there's not the personal attachment where you know when. When used to walk around places, light, green, mountain, and even great Barrington. The people that own attract would be at the in the backstretch every morning walking around talking to the trainer sow sure wars. How how're you details the? You know they've been coming back for years and a lot of people in New England in particular they thought of these places as almost like a summer camp for adults. Where people could get away from the city and take their vacations and go to go to green, mountain in great Barrington and all the. Little tracks and a little places where you know most of the people that were there really adores the sport. We miss that a lot isn't it and I think it's I think it's I think it's starting to get home that these smaller trashy you beginning to that rate at an even higher rate and and we've got to do something that to help them because I think the county and. And the little tracks. Are Extremely important to the overall health of the sport. Speaking of helping the industry visiting by the way with Michael Blowing from old friends retirement centre here in Kentucky and Michael. You have done Yeoman's work over the years to help the sport and a help horses that have competed in our sport at a high level, and even some that have not competed at a high level but you have taken them in with open arms at old friends. Give me an update on what's happening at old friends right now. Well, it's been. It's been really great. We're very grateful to John Hendrickson. State of Mary Lou Whitney. They just retired bird stone to us and he's here now. We picked up the pizza man and work all week. recently. stormy, liberal and patch. It being national pirate. Patch. Are doing really well together, and we just made a really nice arrangement with L.. N.. J. foxwoods to be kind of their official home for their retiring their broodmares. And they just delivered to. US They paid for the. Construction of new paddock and running shed waters looks really nice. I to The first two marriages to last week so. And one of them is really amazing. Horse her name is mystery trip. And she was the last fall by weekend surprise. WHO everybody probably knows one of the greatest broodmares history. Babies like AP. And so I'm hoping that you know they're being more organizations, more partnerships and more owners that would With. Think about what I perceive sources once they're done racing and breeding and make some make some provisions because I think it's it makes a lot of fun and you know. Except for the the virus, which is cut down a lot and we limited our tourist now. Reopened when the? Safely. It'll be really nice to see all the people come back and see all these horses. You know I still have a horse I had. WHO One racist for us it take. I played him in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, nine summer attraction. He's still here with me. So wow. So also from the travelers winners and the. Belmont winners and sober charms doing well. Derby winner It's like, no, you're right Mike when you have a Lotta horses that. Didn't really good one. Thanks races, but they deserve a dignified retirement as well. How `bout my old friend Zippy chippy is he still around? Your feet chippy is IS THAT OUR FARM UP IN SARATOGA WE HAVE A. Church territory that's run by John Pepper who does a marvelous job up there and should be hippies up there he's I think sippy just turned like. Twenty eight. The like that. Of course was the big star, the fares because he could never win a race. And and believe it or not. That was the hardest negotiation I ever had to try and get or stole. French. Felix be leased to take him to used car lots after after the racing career was over for like a couple hundred bucks and he is it's Sandra on the. Used car. Lot Western Massachusetts. And he'd be the celebrity. The celebrity guests so people would be drawn into pike used, cars. Felix. Was not interested in giving out to to early, but eventually it worked out well and and he's he's doing really great up there with all her wonderful crew. Outside Saratoga yes. It's great to hear according to Wikipedia his official race record was over a hundred with eight seconds and thirds earned about thirty thousand dollars in his career. But I. Would race. against. Minor League baseball players to he would show up as a stunt there, and he would race against and was beaten by by a human being by Major League Baseball player if I remember correctly right Yes eventually he wa. He he raised. I think. They didn't start the same distance gave the baseball player big head start but. I'm trying to remember his name his name was McDonnell, and he he played venturing play for the Red Sox the Yankees. Yeah Yeah. Yeah Jose. Is According to the wikipedia article I'm reading here. I think it was Jose Herrera? In Rochester New York actually and and he beat Zippy that day. And I get Mike I'll tell you real quick pilot. You go my claim to fame was Zippy chippy and we can go back and look this up. I was handicapping the races and I was going through the racing form and I saw the names Zippy chippy. He was going to make his debut and if I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure he was firing bullets for his debut and as a man, this horse looks like he can really run I like Zippy chippy on top in this race. What kind of? Variety he goes over one hundred. You're not the only one because when we we make glasses with the horses names automob- list conferences both we couldn't list any these because he was for a hundred. And so I went back and we ended up. Re ended up listening to the names of every all twenty, six jockeys that road. And he went from Mike Smith. and Richard Meekly ory all the way down to WHO and who you know. and. So That's all I'll twenty six names running the Undergrad class and nobody could get them to. Nobody could get into to win one race but this model is good mike his motto is winners don't always finish first. There you love. That's it, and now he is chippy I mean there's A wonderful book that they wrote about that a guy in Canada wrote about I mean. He's famous people come from all over the country to see. So maybe this is the apex. Now, he's the tourist trashing these raising a lot of money up the upper cabin creek up, drench all friends and and maybe that's what he was always meant to. Be. It'd be a silent superstar. Good for him and people can go to the friends equine dot org. If they want to see all of the horses at friends, there are so many of them. So many of the names that you become familiar with and fallen in love with over the years old friends equine dot org. Of course, you can support old friends. Michael is not why I brought you on this. Wasn't a stunt to to raise money for old friends I want to look back on on Green Mountain, but we encourage everybody. If they're gonNA do something they wanna make a donation why not old friends a wonderful organization and you get all the credit, the world, my friend for for bringing these horses home and giving them a home after they're done racing so well, done and. Can't wait for things. Get back to normal. We can get out there and see him again. Thanks so much. Michael Blow in here on the horse racing radio network. Yeah. Fantastic. Fantastic organization and the Zippy chippy. I loved them I. I didn't think he could get beat that day. He got beat every single time after that. I put the Kibosh on them. All right. We're GONNA come back and take a look at the grade. One Saratoga Oaks. I'll do that with trainer are no Delacour next on the equipment forum on H. R. N.. 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Flatter standing at claiborne farm. You'll guys they call me Jersey Joe but it's only job Bravo whatever you like just so happy that you're listening to horse racing radio network. You're listening to the Equine Forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network. Is Right alongside of Antoinette studying skies on the outside and third. Then keep us gain the chat to speak to me of summer is looking to rally down on the inside the field is coming down for the eightfold and the Saratoga Oaks, it is Antoinette studying sky on the outside I don't like a third speak to me of summer is Fourth Antoinette and stunning sky and the two of them will fight it out to the finish with. Antoinette by ahead stunning sky ran second the mile and three sixteenths in one minute, fifty, three and one fifth second. Welcome back to the forum, the Horse Racing Radio Network Mike Pana Barron of the backstretch with you on this. Saturday morning and that was John Embryo with the call of the Saratoga Antoinette getting the victory in her most recent outing the three year old filly expected to vie for favouritism in today's grade one Belmont oaks invitational with magic attitude who makes her US debut in the hands of trainer are no Delacour and he will join me momentarily. But before we get to Arnaud, I told you I would keep you updated on the latest. News about the workout for authentic who the Derby winner prepping for the preakness stakes he was at Churchill downs this morning Kevin, Kirstein Nice enough to pass along the information and authentic going five furlongs fifty nine point two, zero, this morning Churchill downs and out in one twenty five, point two, zero for the seven eight. So pretty good workout there for authentic he appears to be no worse for wear coming out of that big derby win a couple of weeks ago, and now we turn our attention to the grade one Saratoga Oaks. We go from news on the three year old males to news on the three year old fillies and magic attitude getting ready to. Kick things off here in the US later today are no good morning. Good Morning. Yeah thanks for being with me Look I just talked about authentic and his workout that seem pretty good. How about magic attitude what are you seeing from her? When she came to us like lead July and just been you know pretty straightforward way if today so we hope for good. Today. When you get a Philly like this, a very talented filly daughter of Galileo when you get affiliate this into Your Barn and affil-? You haven't been around much. You didn't have her from you know a two year old. You're starting to learn what she's like, what are some of the steps you go through to get to know her? Why I mean we just tried to be very progressive but what we're doing knowing that we are you see tinging trending fast coming from Europe to to to the state So we try to do it like gradually that's an air and the brother of your time and learn from that, and that's why do we have done where? Have you spent much time going back and watching her races in France. Yeah of course. What do you? What? What do you see what you take away from that? When you watch the replay of those races are no. But. It looks like she can be a she can be pretty aggressive. He's not coming up she won't. She won't. When she wanted to prefrontal and she was kind of you know like mythbusters coke adopt them big. Geek. So we we we like the fact that she could really share the turn of food. Now she went back into pre. which was a little bit longer like minded quarter I believe and She was never covered up and watch the little strong hang out with the second, which was a great performance during But but we thought that he was a little bit aggressive that they. running in the. Sort of French hoax was way more relaxed probably a little more. To do being being the last one of them but at least yours relaxing came with with with a big move big take. So you know. We try to duplicate that if our. Yeah, it's only five horse field later today in that Belmont Oaks invitational is it. Is. It more difficult to get her in a position where she's covered up and she can relax in a short field like that or in some respects? Can it be easier for Javier Castellano? And I hope it's going to be easy. The only thing is when you come to, you know they covered up and and sit behind these you have different completely of the page in front So you can't really make the base and where you is where you gonna sit for for a while. So I just hope that there's enough page it can be tricky and the firewall field, but you know we're the only place place. Yeah you'll face off with the bill Maher trained. Antoinette. She is the likely horse to vie for favoritism with your horse magic attitude. What do you know about? Antoinette are no Well. I told her I. Mean I showed that sat. Oh Gosh you look very impressive to me. Looks like she's got a big stride good cruising speed and can go to defense or she's she's definitely a good city. You know we're we're just hope that we'd be able to you know Do show up with a good town food and get damp but there's definitely going to be an interesting race. You mentioned getting magic. Attitude into. Your Barn. Sometime in July this year and now we're sitting here in September. She's going in this grade one race was this always the spot that you had in mind? Now, we were considering the del Mar oaks unfortunately when she arrived, she was she she had the, you know my temperature through. A these ten days, and she much trending to be able to ship again and run if Lynn that they'll marriage. So we decided to escape and at that time. With the end Owen Bennett folks who are GonNa be and it just. So. We thought that the timing was perfect. Well she is not the only horse that you will saddle in a stakes race this weekend you will also send out your horse at Woodbine that is going to say the name is shadow layer shadow let. Shetland. season. CARE stakes squeak she's You know she different interests printer five, eight right this on. With stepping up in class Oh. We hope that came from fest, which was pretty good I'd cut down. Step up a little bit. You should be able to get a piece of it. She's the daughter of intimate shift just like Derby winner authentic is how? That sire I mean he's just getting things done whether it's dirt longshore it doesn't matter. Yeah you're you're absolutely right I mean they seem to produce a lot of these that that are very genuine wants to run and we've been the you know the time you see an intermission into your body is a trail yours get. Pretty excited. You know. Well Arnaud Delacour is a busy man and his horses are running running very very well, he his saddle more than four hundred winners in his career. He's looking to add that total weekend. No listen appreciate the visit. I know it's a busy morning all the best later today and moving forward as well. Thank you. 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As, the middle jewel the gateway to horseracing immortality if the Derby winner can get through that one and head to the Belmont, this year will wrap up the triple crown with the preakness and a chance that we could see your rematch between authentic and Tis the law I told you that authentic work. This morning at Churchill went very, very well passed on those numbers a short time ago Tis, the law. Expected to make a decision on the preakness stakes. By early or mid week coming up here, Tuesday or Wednesday. He's GonNa work. And then after his work, they will make a decision on whether they're going to go to the preakness maybe they skipped that race and go to the breeders. Cup, classic they did say in the article that was on blood horse that they are planning on racing him as a four-year-old, maybe a race like the Pegasus World Cup down at Gulfstream Park, and then pointing for racist the Whitney later next summer at Saratoga. So that's good news. We'll get a chance to see Tis, the law who undoubtedly. has been the top three year old in the country this year but authentic threw his name into the ring for champion three-year-old with that big win defeating Tis, the law in the Kentucky Derby, and that's going to be interesting to see how that plays out because authentic his resumes pretty strong now to it was strong going in to the Kentucky Derby after winning the hassle but. It's even stronger now, and now he's beaten Tis the law head to head. So Tis, the laws going to have to find a way to flip the script if he wants to be three year old champion and going into the Derby a couple of weeks ago I didn't even think we'd be talking. About any other horse? Other. Than Tis, the law. Having a chance to be three year old champion. But authentic did what he needed to do. And he's a legitimate. Legitimate candidate right now. To be three year old champion. Pretty Cool I can't wait to see the way that that plays out but follow us. 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Going on to win the Rico would find mile. World approval who slips away with approval. Right, down the outside on his birthday, La's deadline, CASTA. But world approval wits Rica would file by freelance. Book About Equal Forum Robert Geller, with the call of Mark Kassy's to victories in the Woodbine mile and they have been good ones tappin and world approval coming back to back in two, thousand, sixteen and two, thousand, seventeen respectively he's looking to add to those win totals later this afternoon when he sends out a trio of horses in this year's Rico. Woodbine mile he'll be representative course by war of will who is the preakness winner from a year ago he has. The ultra talented horse breaking from the rail march to the arch, and then along shot in their Olympic runner and I'm joined now by Jeff Brad to is the handicapper at Woodbine does a fantastic job to look at that race and some of the other stakes races on the program today, and maybe even look ahead to tomorrow with an atomic and the summer stakes as we continue our theme of winning your in action leading up to the Breeders Cup. Jeff Good Morning. Good morning from a chilly wind it is cold. I'm not sure what the temperature is like where you are but fall has all the sudden just flowing into into us your would woodbine. Well. You're sending their coal weather down here to the bluegrass too. We kick things off at eight eastern this morning it was forty three degrees here. Yeah, well, it's forty six right now here at. Woodbine. So it's the good news. There's no ring. The horse will be very, very happy. So that's great to see. A twelve race program today, the racing action is figuring to to heat up as we get closer to post time later, this afternoon and make our way through that twelve race card. But you have the Woodbine mile the RICO would bind mile. You also have the the Singspiel which is on that program today Let's start with the Woodbine mile work backwards. I guess we'll do it that way since you brought up mark cassie and his three horses. They look like a formidable group later today. You know what? Mark's trying to join a very select group. There are three trainers have won this race on three occasions and how does this sound for resume Neil Drysdale Bobby Frankel, and trump prestige. That's pretty good competition that you're facing there. So yeah, it's great to have war of will with us I just want to give a big tip of the caps where. Office Julie Beller sticks coordinator because you know with Kobe Nineteen Mike it's been so tough to have horses ship north of the border because in ship is but people if they come to can't up if the stay fourteen days in quarantine. So it's really really been tricky. Is the fact that we've been able to attract a war of will the fact that we've? An up and comer potentially a superstar in scholes fight. We don't know that obviously cabinets hard. He's got. So horse that is worth the year from last season that being started jubilee, any God's value proposition as well and value proposition. If he can ever avoid those and tendencies, he's got a shot potentially be a great sticks winter. So just a lovely race under trying circumstances. I. Love that you brought up. Cheryl's spite because this is a three year old daughter three year old son of a spike in town to for to begin his career. He won the grade three marine last time out but. His trainer Roger Outfield much like Mark Cassie a member of two hall of fame in the US in Canada. He can. He can win this race. I'm telling you he is one heck of a horse trainer. And yet, this is the race he never won He would love to get this rates onto his resume. So yeah, shirl spite the big question might maybe we can debate this a little bit to what type of price we're going to get on this compose time because this was arguably one of the most impressive winners of ever seen that would bind that worked. Here for over twenty years, they came back to win the marine. They thought about maybe going to derby or Scott Sick might have been a blessing in disguise I mean don't get me wrong. It's a tough task too. But at least it's in your own backyard. There's obviously been a lot of this for. Do you think we ate the one compose time with Charles Fights Well with the presence of war of will and starship jubilee. I know the seven year old mayor is taking on the boys today but she is as tough as they come I. Think you might I. Think you're going to be looking at that seven eight to one ballpark with this horse. And you know I really think fats down the line. Of the future I mean his first career start was on turf. Obviously is mom one of the prettiest comfortably and Mirror Game Roger outfielder Breeders Cup victory but. This was going to be the real test before him today and You know the fact that amorality pure as much to go in this race instead of the Singspiel that at the pace setup were will it's GonNa be somewhat forwardly placed in here as well. So I think we potentially could happen legitimate pace up front which you should have for a million dollar race. Do, you see starship jubilee the Horse of the year being able to knock off the boys today. That is a great question. You know I respect her a ton. she always comes in a very difficult race and Diana. I think she's got her shot for sure I. Think the fact this raises in our own backyard I think that's a huge cost. The first time this season she hasn't had the ship I think that's a major major plus I think she's going to be so much more than the wagering which to be a bit of a mistake. You know she's got tactical speed to she's so versatile and I really think that you know like eight or nine months prefer distance, and this would just be a real Cinderella story of Sharia able to get the cap and gown here today and the Woodbine Mile. You Know Jeff by the way visiting with Jeff Brat the handicapper woodbine previewing the Woodbine Mile, which comes up later today shortly after five o'clock eastern When when you look at this sport, a lot of people think you have to be you know sport at Kings, you have to be a millionaire to be able to make money own horses. Starship jubilee was purchased for six thousand, five, hundred dollars in two thousand fourteen she is now earned more than one point, six, million dollars, eighteen wins in that career just a a wonderful wonderful story. And she was claimed by these connections actually and then went through the sale and Blue Heaven farm purchase the horse and gave the worst back cabinet train and originally, they were just going to breed the mayor because she had already done enough but there have been so happy she want a great one race a last season EP Taylor and partner last race was undefeated so far this season. So yeah, she's just wonderful Cinderella story you just never know what's GonNa get and sometimes when you claim to get a little bit lucky and it's been a great ride for scholarships you believe. So how do you see the Woodbine mile the top three finishers who are they? Okay so I respect will a lot. Obviously, he starred office racing career actually right here at Ted, Bundy losses for starts and then he lost him the summer stakes as well, and then he went down to the states and he raced on dirt and the all know he's done after that either dual grade one winner on turf, and on the you have to respect him a ton. You'll be right there in the mix of things I think shirl spite will part of the pay scenario long with amorality peer. I'm Kinda going to work together Casio worse in this race, I like marsh the arches, my top selection. I'm GonNa believe a horse course and when it comes to our particular course here Mike and I I think that this guy really likes to reports I know that more often than not he finds troubling some of his racist, but he has really thrived since coming here to woodbine he's looked great ever since win a King Eddie I think he pulls off just a slight upset and today's Rico would by mile. Post time for the Woodbine Mile, which is raised nine on the twelve ways. Trove race program is five, thirty, nine eastern to make sure you're locked into that one. Are Jeff Let's talk about the greatest stakes at the grade three singspiel which comes up as the seventh race Mile Quarter on the turf post time for this one is four, twenty, seven eastern, and this look field of ten entered wide open field of ten. This can go a lot of ways. Right so That's rates of go into the Rica with by miles we will have one defection there. Yeah it's a lovely brace because we've got sky wire. He's back here at Woodbine. He's had his biggest moments here standard deviation for conditioner Graham motion trying to get back to where he wants was we're at that last week it's come from with say the word goes down at Saratoga and of course, record and the. Odds of fifty one to one. But for me Mike the Story Line this race, it is pace and I think that terrorists lamb has a huge pace and badge and this he'll now is the same forest flat seats and. That's legit legitimate legitimate question that I'm not sure about that. He's defending champion and we had this race last season that a mile and a half now it's been cutbacks mount. I think it's got a great shot to wire. The feels Yasser. Respect Nakamura for sure. But I'm going to go towards his Aslan to see if he can be back. I know he's he's kind of going off on little bed Fultz could be a good day for conditioner. Roger. Six to one on the morning line I. Jeff I missed who you said was scratched in there which horses coming out of the SPIEL. Odd Morality parents be scratched that race, but we'll be going into woodby. All right. So a very competitive. Field of nine left in the Singspiel, and again, that's race number seven is a slam as who thinks can return to top form and maybe pull off an upset. You know last year that's a horse that was in great for me rattled off those three graded stakes victories in consecutive fasten, and then like you said, he's been off forum lately but if he gets it loose on the lead, he could be dangerous. Exactly, that's kind of my game plan going in I think the scratch of Ad Morality here really helps them in here because he should rather uncontested lead in the spots and I think it's like the cooler weather it's just one of those forces doesn't like it when it's really hot outside. So I I think the main dangerous obviously Nakamura come off good result last time out you know and this is a proven type of course as I've done some pretty good things in the past password conditioner grandmas and Grandpas and very supportive of our program here at Woodbine and respect Nakamura Sun as well. Jeff Pratt Woodbine handicapper with me on the Horse Racing Radio Network Jeff about five minutes left here in this segment before I have to get to our visit with the folks at four Roses Bourbon but before I do let's look ahead to tomorrow than Thomas the summer stakes I don't know how much time you spent diving into those races yet but those look like they could be competitive. And again, it's it's obviously are a year in which we traditionally have bigger fields, what God for the summer, some of this season. But with covert everything's upside down and we just have to appreciate the horses that we have come into us here at Woodbine and how this for a Canadian type of horse named Gretzky great for conditioner. Marquette, coming off an ice free in the story and free stakes. So this guy by Nyquist he. was actually night puts its first stakes. Winner is a looking to accelerate the distance and there I'm GONNA go towards American monarch, America Monarch, and the secret police, and they're coming out of the same race, a matter of fact, down at Saratoga and America monarch what's entering the whistle patient stakes we'll go out coming up tomorrow and hopefully we'll stamp themselves as Breeders Cup can center. So we'll give American monarch this like not there. All right and how about the other race Whether Race Tolna and this is a bit of an interesting story. So sleek winks, we'll go post for conditioner are Cassie in here and this is sort of a marinade. Sarah. Links wanted passing can international rate here would and made a huge move on the turn our first restarting eventually finishing the second place position the also in this event Tabah seasons and stunning princess coming off base performances down. At Saratoga but I like lady spite spear that's one is closely related to shirl fights for Commissioner Roger Outfield first time though onto the crafts and just made every call of winning one and should be a lot better. I think second time out as well. I. Think the locals keep the money and tomorrow's Mattel mistakes happiness lady spike spirituals vitrolles fifty could have a massive weekend here at Woodbine. There will be people betting the woodbine races this weekend especially with the Breeders Cup Challenge Angle though be betting them from from all over the country all over the world. All over North America. Any special wagers that folks can look forward to playing over the next couple of days. We do have some guaranteed cools off a horse racing fans to play along. For example, today coming up the late pick for today it went by and it will get rocking and rolling and race number nine not being Rica Woodbine mile to pool. There will be guaranteed two, hundred, thousand dollars early pick four we'll have a guaranteed pool of one hundred thousand dollars that was cut off in the race number four. The Jackpot power six continues to grow in popularity but really it said the guaranteed pools and I'm focusing on especially that late. For that starts off with Rica woodfire mile really looking forward to that with full guarantee that two, hundred, thousand dollars. If not all that familiar with recent Woodbine, we have different turf horses. We have one that's on the inside and we have one on the outside, which is far bigger. The outside once a mile and a half, and of course, we do have to Pitas well the tracks and playing pretty fair play. So I like that and no portable rails Mike lots of room for the horses to maneuver air today it would bind. Yes, speaking of to pita looking back on the Queen's plate. This is the first year that we have not been in attendance to broadcast it and several years and I really did miss being at Woodbine I can't wait to hopefully get back there next year summer and broadcast the Queen's played again but it's for people don't realize it. It's Canada's version of the Kentucky Derby if you will Candida bred horses three year olds competing in the first leg of the triple, crown? And you know. What can you say about Josie Carroll and and the job that? With her two horses rounding out the exact in that race. Actually finished first second and fifth, and it's it's kind of a really unique story with the worst one north name is mighty heart. He only has one I. It does not have a left I the only as a right is so he's been a bit of a challenge to get into the race, but he's overcome that obstacle in a big way the writer that wrote the worst ice capable Fukumoto that's only a third ever stakes when he's twenty two years old doesn't even own. A car doesn't own a car, but as one million dollar race and was able to pull off a victory, they're fantastic story and we look forward to the Prince of Wales stakes, and hopefully he'll be going down there and get the second jewel Kansas triple crown. So money hardwired the fields and telecheck named after the football coach bill finished second at a massive price as well as a tremendous day. But you're definitely in Mike I know that union group done a fantastic job growth years. Jerry will joined your bronco broadcaster years. He's doing great work in the morning time still. So hopefully, the next season, we'll see you back here at Woodbine and and week no celebrate with another queen's plate on your resume. Yeah I wish I was there. It's always nice to be in attendance when Bella check gets beat but that's just my own personal. steelers fan. So I'm a little bitter when it comes to that subject. Jeff Brat I would buy. Her, follow him at twitter. 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Episode 61: Gulfstream and Santa Anita Stakes

Racing Rundown: A Horse Racing Podcast

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Episode 61: Gulfstream and Santa Anita Stakes

"All right so we're back this week. Episode Number Sixty one we got a lot of listed races are listed six down all over the country as well as a couple of very interesting allowance races at Churchill downs. Just kind of passing along some news. That has happened over the course of this week. A lot of you know as we mentioned last week. A lot of tracks were beginning the reopening process Santa Anita has as of yesterday got their clearance to reopen Racing without spectator so we will have all the races insanity to that. We have missed over the course of time. We'll have those on there as well. Some races that had been planned for the beginning of June end of May beginning June. So we'll see all those races at Santa Anita comeback in one way or another also worth mentioning the updated Kentucky Derby points races those come out from Churchill down so very interesting to see some of the some of the races that have gotten Kentucky Derby points a lot of lot of tracks around the country have races that are now at the very minimum ten up to the Belmont sticks which is a hundred fifty point race for winner of that race. We'll get one hundred fifty points toward the Kentucky Derby so a lot of research can go check that out. If you're curious to see what races are what races at what tracks have what amount of points so you know. There's that as well as I already mentioned the large amount of listed races at Gulfstream. Put together for us as well as a couple nice allowance races at Churchill downs featuring the comeback of monoploy role and the return of Breeders Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint Winter. Four wheel drive up. He looked very good in his win. The Breeders Cup Juvenile. It's GonNa be as I start of the year but before we get to talk about that stuff we're gonNA talk about Just the one race. We talked about on the show last week. which was the sunshine forever stakes up which we talked about going into that race. Saw that war will was going to be the big horse running in it and Unfortunately the morning of the race war of will was scratched. So that kind of blew the the segment that we had on that Basically saying that we thought were of will was not necessarily a cinch but this is a really good spot for him but aside from more of will Defecting from the race a very good very good race run by one by a horse holiday who has run a couple nice Racist down a Gulfstream. In obviously the aforementioned sunshine forever and then before that getting an allowance win and then prior to that Also at Gulfstream on December. Twenty eighth he won the Tropical Parker Resell so nice racist for him. At Gulfstream mixed in a fourth place effort at Tampa Bay downs. But it was a nice race for him. Social Paranoia Guppy by decent group of horses. Not exactly what you wanted to see. But I'm not ready to say that. Social Paranoia is a one off or anything like that. He'll use fine. You know obviously a bit of a setback. But he'll come back that's not going to derail a campaign for him no not not at all and It was a good run from him. Just a little flat. The pace holiday went wire-to-wire that he controls the practice. Did it did it his way and had obviously paid off with a big win here a nice Ortiz steadily improving You must have some users you might have just had some bad luck with injuries or maybe it takes a little longer for him to get going. 'cause he has had a lot of space between his eighth is he is a four year old. It's pretty likely raised In the grand scheme of things but if he stays healthy and continue on this hat you might be able to challenge in graded stakes this summer. up in New York when they get running Aquaphor via the run-up also always been pretty consistent horse. It'll be intriguing to see where they go with him and little paranoia I think he'll be running. Those big Be graded stakes. This was a one-off raised. I imagine todd pletcher wasn't too upset considering He had the he had the winner in this. So that's it for several last week. It was a pretty light weekend for racing across the country. But before we get to where we're GONNA lead golfing for a minute. I want to go to Churchill downs and talk about the the pair of allowance races that we got coming up this weekend brings the return of Mon girl. Obviously as we mentioned earlier who has not run since her win in the Breeders Cup distaff at the end of her three year. Old Campaign She's been she's won or been second and offer starts only second two times one nine so obviously you don't need to tell me how consistent. Montemar girl has been you know. Her record speaks for self Breeders Cup. Distaff winner Kentucky Oaks Winner Eclipse Award winner champion three year. Old Filly in two thousand eighteen. She did not run last year but she's been working up to this point and I think it's a good move by Brad Cox to start her in a race like this as opposed to maybe running in a race like the Shawny I start back off of a layoff as long as the one that Montemar girl has had and you know there are some girls. Not The only horse in this race There's a couple other horse in this race. That are fairly solid horses but I just don't think even with the layoff As concerning the layoff is with Manteo girl even with the laugh. I just don't think the ninety one really is going to be able to step up and beat her. She's equality horse and I just. I don't have any concerns with her. I realized that you know the layoff. It definitely it would be a turnoff for a lot of people but just I would not be super inclined to say that you know just because of the layoff. Montemar girls are not going to be able to come back and turn on a plus effort. We've seen her win a lot of big races and I think she is going to start back up and have some some kind of good campaign. Whatever aid ends up being this year but layoff is a concern but not enough to not pick her. I agree with that with that sentiment. There Wall Wallet is a group Group. I mean the three fashion pope hot is a stakes where he's taking dropping in class here off of the big layoff and she's been good In addition to your his life Talk to me the Civic Su Usually at one point in time was considered one of the best three year old phillies in the country a couple years ago. Same Year Manuel girl was a three year old. Unfortunately has not a you know period on from her three-year-old form which are window. Indiana oaks. But she's Steve asked me so now in the new owner so perhaps that goes bode well for her. They bought it for one point. Three million dollars last fall and suddenly kate also If you want to stake or to allowance excuse me before running fit in estates down and goal during the spring so listen other horses to consider but it's monitoring girl she's a neck in disqualification where she won by a neck away from being in undefeated horse In I mean even even if we go back to that Breeders Cup distaff actually be so many horses midnight. Easy who is third in that race is now probably the best horse in the country and Peter Easily was one of the easiest Breeders Cup distaff ones. We've seen quite a while. So I think Montiel's primary you'd never hear despite coming up about a year and a half long layoff so moving onto the other interesting race on the Churchill downs car that brings back a former breeders cup winner and that would be The juvenile winner from this past Breeders Cup four wheel drive the son of American fare on four wheel drive is really good. In his Breeder's Cup Juvenile Turk sprint. You've also got the runner up in that race. Chimney rock but In addition to those two horses you know the to those who were obviously the recognition from Breeders Cup specifically four wheel drive. But they'll definitely take a lot of money in a lot of attention but you've got a couple other good horses in here. Guilds Mun. Jacking no are both horses that jump off the paper as ones that could make an effort here may has also. There's been a lot of hype around him in the past. He's a solid and other son of American Pharaoh but You know I liked what I saw from four wheel drive in the Breeders Cup. He's undefeated in there is some concern about whether or not this race will come off. Come off the turf with the forecast. Some heavy rain this region Churchill downs regardless of whether or not it stays on the turf I think four wheel drive the. I'll take him here. I I think that you know. Regardless of that American Pharaoh had the ability to run onslaught even though it is trending toward him. Being better dirt sire. American fair definitely We'll should you should expect him to be able to impart that on his offspring. So I'll take four wheel drive here with the weather concerns or with or without the weather concerns I still think four wheel drive really solid worse and you know I I could see him. Winning this race in kicking off could be really Nice Campaign for him this year in in the weather is concerned Churchill. Downs is it usually a super keen on taking off the grass unless it's a downpour and we'll see what the weather it. It'll be interesting but I think even if it does come off a four wheel drive will run by. Never having run on the dirt is a you know by American Farrelly's Damn had experience. It's eating he has the pedigree. Did you know be able to handle the dirt in really a lot of these do. There's only a handful of horses in this race. I think that would actually come out if this got off the turf The three yields men in the Fort Jack and no are really the only industries without any dirt experience A even the made in who actually last year was one of the favorites of per race at Royal Ascot before being scratched Due to a concern to how fast the TURF would be You'd ideas experience broke his maiden overtook. It's as you group. I think we'll drive is extremely good by picking the juvenile turf sprint like many others In I'm in the probably the vast minority here but I think you should have been the tutorial champ last year Based on his resume that was really not matched by anybody else. But nevertheless I do my concern is how he's going to be able to get out of that inside post he really has to break well because there's some good speed to his outside. That'll try to how important I know he can outrun those horses and stick around and be fine. It doesn't really matter how fast goes but my concern is that will you won't be able to get to the lead because he gets swapped from the outside. I'm willing to take the risk. I do think he's just an elite horse in here before Jack in no. Although if the race does say on the grass he has a stakes when Last fall at acqueduct over of over a turf syrup is in a really impressive time meeting some good horses And if the race were to come off the turf my ny one word I would consider ease the seven tango He's he's throwing down some pretty nice horses and beat them any is coming off states when it Turkey over there all weather service so it's a deep group. A lot of Nice horses in this race. it really it will. It will be interesting to see if they keep it on. Take it off. We ever even cut some the runner up from the juvenile turf sprint. Last Chimney Rock. That is because he did run a pretty disappointing fourth last time now in a race at Sam Houston but Dutch. Another horse of the race gets taken off his only dirt race After his first start he's only dirt race with a six and a half length win so he's another good horse but I think it goes through four wheel drive nevertheless so now we're going to go back to golf shrink. Pick it up with three straight as I mentioned. Golf shoots put together some. Nice listed races Friday Saturday and Sunday all have a those listed stakes. And the first one that we're GONNA talk about easy one on Friday the Hollywood wildcat and this is going to bring back one of our favorite pastimes. Specifically Eric's one of his favorite pastimes on here is to not pick totally shape in race. Where she's going to be a big favourite end and the thing about toneless shape is that you know going into the Gulfstream Park Oaks. She was undefeated had answered every question. But there's just always been that aura of uncertainty around her and told US shape kinda showed us why she wasn't why we've all consistently had doubts on her. Her effort effort in that race was not very inspiring left a lot to be desired. Seven place behind a horse. Swiss skydivers gone onto a couple of really good races but Aside from her. You've got some other horses in here up in smoke a horse that I like in this race that she's undefeated three for three for George Weaver This is the first time she does starting to but Her her last three races have been pretty good so she is one to consider also cheer meisters another one that strikes me a- as another one who she's ruined some good races at Gulfstream couple wins lasted out. She was second before that two wins in grade. Three races oh she's got talent as well as some other horse in here that I'll let airtouch but again the thing we're told the shape is she's going to go off favored but you know it's just there's always been that uncertainty around her and you know really whether or not really. I've been reluctant to pick her as of late and I'll continue to be reluctant to pick her. Because you know that the Gulfstream Park didn't encourage me very much about her at all and Jack Completely Right I. It is my favorite tradition. I have to stick with it again because like I said I said after the goal before Trian Park Bill if she wins this race again for the rest of my life but she did not win that race your seventh and therefore I am still offer however MC wins this race. I probably still never picked her again. But she's a good filly. I can't can't can't say she isn't she? She of talent throughout her career. But just not for me. No matter where she runs I I look this race. It's it's a little interesting. 'cause eight meisters time for. Big Wild Hearts. She's been so good in those to park stakes. They've all been on the graph and being good horses but at the same time We don't really know how that that'll transfer to the derg pedigree suggests you can do it. But she's ran in all six races on the garage. So Judy Connection. She'll confident with it. That's kind of my big question. I do think that the six vigilantes way is pretty intriguing. Coming off a maiden when at Tampa. That's obviously going to be easier than of winning main rates at Gulfstream needed but he was a really nice win and kind prompted to pace. I was pretty hot and still finished really strongly so I'm excited about her. Especially getting the two terms with the pedigree. She has a lot of classic distance in her pedigree. Up in smoke Jackson. He likes. She's another night. Stillie not mean the sparks. I don't think the pace is going to be to To killer for for her to close into that has been the her benefit to inter last starts of button who knows She is. She is very talented Philly. She has shown it I think at the end of the day. It's it's hard for me to go with a favorites. I don't think vigilantes ways GONNA get a lot of backing to one on the morning line. So she's going to be my here. I think she's going to run a big race I hope that your meister can stick around because is my my my my second even though she does not have the experience and then for me. I did talk about before. The Gulfstream Park Oaks. She always comes running and she did. She did come running but she was quite far behind the pace. That did not go at all We discussed that in depth after that race book this this this rating will be a little bit nicer to her and she she could come accuse super consistent and lastly. I DO WANNA shout out. The one wanderlust. This is affiliate who personally. I really like like her before she even ran. But I don't see you're having much chance in this spot today. Okay so the next recent were moving on onto is a racist. Bring back three hundred six and a half Furlong Race. The roar steaks under seventy five thousand dollar steak This'll bring back a horse from the two year old trail last year. Green Light Go. Who had some really nice win in Saratoga? Special and took three steps back in the champagne really has not been good good in his races since that Win that he had the Saratoga special but he gets back to to that distance six and a half rolling you know. The champagne was a mile. Think that was too far for him. The sweepstakes last start out with seven furlongs. He goes back to that six and a half for long distance. He won that Sergio special a really. Nice Nice fashioned. Good time for him. I've always like green light. Go I. I know that green light has been very disappointing but a green light. Go to me has always been a horse that I've thought has some talent You know it remains to be seen where that's going to go but there's some other good horses in here you've got with verve and Cajun cazenove. Both were in here. Also Double Crown Maryland Bred Horse So those are all three horse in here. That are super solid rikki. Tikki TAFFY is also. He's going to probably be the longest shot on the board but he's You know it's the sixers field so you can consider all you can even consider The sixers industries to also but Gino. Ju just as a person who you know green like Oh looked to me to be really good at the Saratoga Special. And we'll have to see whether or not he'll be able to transition any of that form that he had From that Syrup Saratoga special into this race right here in green like a super nice words. I don't think anyone really would back. Class from a green light goes swell RACE TO BE AS KEEPS. It was but you know after that out. Initially Alex. WHO's Super President Aaron? He's he's probably one of the better sprinters in the country even though we haven't seen him in a long time and shivering ran second in that race when onto run second in afforded derby. Chivalry also second behind with verve in the Hudson States Which was a rather weak field. Well going in but coming on bit now but chivalry get a lot of class to that rate. So that'll be interesting. This is a deep group. Green Light go is really nice Because he wanted I e starts so impressively Second Behind Tucson the wall the champagne. I don't think really anybody could have beat his long. The champagne date. I was one of the most impressive wins. I've seen in a long time and then that that's will is a comeback race. I'm hopeful that he can regain that You know the even the champagne form will probably get the job done here but even outside of that I haven't touched on the fourcade and Castano Viet. But he's been really nice on the grass but he does have dirt experience and use a stakes winner on the grass is well behind a couple of horses of UBT. Couple isn't actually that are highly regarded to possibly upset four wheel drive at Churchill downs so that that is definitely an interesting look here In the last two I want to touch on the to a reeves racing. Pappy ripple horses Double Crown broke his maiden over on nation on grade. Both those horses were perfect. Purchased privately purchased out of that maiden raise And they have done some good stuff since then. I don't give our nation on parade much of a Chance. But you'd give double crown fight chance considering loss to hop cat who is a also very impressive three-year-old early on this year so it's a deep group. I think I have to go. I I think if I'm playing say. Green light go on top especially because I do think the pace might be just a little bit. Hot with horses like With with Verba to me the one ricky ticky tacky and Cajun cazenove in there. 'cause a green like though slightly off the pace to take it over there With Vaughn per second and I think oh crowns prime for another big runoff. Keep him on for third all right so now we're going to go to Saturday. Pick up with the first of the couple of six races on that card. And this'll bring back again. I start CISA Frank. You'll roll mile. Bit of a layoff forgot stormy but got story. Had A you know. Obviously you don't need me to tell you how good God stormy was last year but this year has had a couple of starts that have left a lot to be desired specifically endeavor sakes the Kiro Mile was not that bad of a race but the race down at Tampa that you ran in was left a lot to be desired. We still don't know what we're going to get from God stormy this year you know. I would like to think that she'll be able to regain some semblance of the form that she had as a four year old last year. But we've seen it a lot in the past that You know really good. Phillies are not able to hold up their form after. They're really good. Breakout year so I would love to see this here. But for right here got stormy. She's going to be the favourite again. Like like we've mentioned already but I just there's a lot of uncertainty around her. I'll give her another chance here but ultimately with got stormy I've really wary about picking her because With the fact that she has left a lot to be desired and I am beginning to lean towards the fact of you know. She's probably not going to be up to the form that we saw her last year. There's a couple other horse in here that look to me to be really good. I like nor Sierra With you've got Iraqis and Chad Brown. Who Win a lottery solve the time. So she's really good as well as you've got the eight tablet today so a really deep race got stormy looks to have a comeback win for the first time this year. If she gets it going to be a really good position for put her in a really good position getting getting she definitely. She's a confidence back. And getting back in the groove of winning things would like to see that not really sure whether or not we're going to get that I have reason to believe we wouldn't have reason wouldn't so This week we'll tell us a bit of a wild card and that's weird to say about a horse. That was healy contention to be a close award winner last year but look her. Her was good race but at the same time that the racine expected to dominate based off of last year's performances where she toyed with some some of her male rivals A. It's GonNa be interesting that the pace in this race does seem high tweet horse. That really likes to be near it so that could be undoing a couple of horses. I Know One person who Jack Coach North era she. She's a pretty Nice French filly. Her really her worst race was her. Last race was pretty poor. I I met in their head to have been something behind. That base offer form before that. It wasn't that bad but other than that her worst race. Wasn't the French oaks where she was eleven. Puppies only four lengths. She's really more of a mile or not. Race is just a touch over a mile and a quarter. She does have a really nice late kick to which might benefit her late closing speed. The horse I like here and I. It's really just kind of taking their shop with a horse that and it's only a shot that he's coming off of not just on eleven month. Layoff at this point. Eight valley into undefeated three for three all very nice wins against probably Lesser Company in the grand scheme of things but All in all pretty good company a horse. She'd beaten her maiden rates diner. Passer has come back to run. Really lonesome graded stakes on the grass in the north. Who she'd eaten your second start has also come out and run pretty good state phrases as well Really it's just a layoff todd. Pletcher is about thirty percent with horses that have been away for over three months. And that's a pretty good number Nick Warranty he does give back aboard. Needs to or to this August. Get ALONG PRETTY WELL. His actually going to be your short as radio This is a mile flashy has won all three berets out of my on the sixteenth. But you know when you have horses like God storming you hear. Ya but first time. American started for Chad Brown in your clothes. A horse like Tapa. Today he's been pretty solid stakes company. It's worth taking a shot with a horse you know have some class and that is values seven. She's on top for me I do think tap. Today is prime for a big race. I will take her for second. You know keep God stormy onto third moving onto the final race on Saturday. Which is a musical romance. This is a really solid group forces. You've got the three wildcat wild woods beauty. Excuse me You've also you also have lady's island. Jp's delight and Bolera horses are all all of them. Have a really good chance when the street. This is probably of the three onset Saturday. This is probably the deepest race on on the card. You can go any route that you want. WanNa go this all this one up to air to whether or not he wants to take a shot in this or not but you know. I'll just mentioned that. This is a very deep field You know a lot of routes that you can go with it and We'll see it is a state bred race though so these are all work mentioned that these are all Florida bred so but does from that a lot of ways. You know that a lot of good horse in this race all Florida breads but all Florida breads that have been competitive in open stakes company. I think every single horse in this race has either one or placed in an open stakes rates for female horses. So that's that's pretty impressive when you have a state bred race with that much class in it though. There are some really classy horse in the first Morning LINE FAVORITE. Lady's island is an absolute burner. She has so much early speed. The fractions are never really going to tear her apart but the thing is she does have a lot of speed but at the same time. There's a lot of other horses industries that are going to want to go up with her and content mainly to sixty we know is a front runner ran in the Burgers took Cubano phillies last year. Set the pace of rebel big in that race before tiring. She's one that's going to be up there as well as The one Horse Elisa Star. He's going to be right there trying to content and even from the outside of Lady's island we have forces like oceans of love and Jake used to like to be near the early speed. So in that case you gotta go with horse from off the pace catoon. The three wild was beauty and Bolero are both Really solid competitor Blair actually last fall when the company at aqueduct. And Yeah I'm pretty nicely. It wasn't that type of field that it was a nice win. My big concern with with Valeria. She seems like a horse that needs to go long. Her best regions have been at a mile on an need or longer. So that's one reason I can't put her on top. She is my second choice in here. Behind wildwoods beauty who has been second backed back open stakes behind a PINK SANDS AND SALVAGE. Berlin's who are both horses who underrated now maybe but they might be leading contenders for the Breeders Cup filling sprint when we get there and she's been a second one both times hasn't won since last. November. It's been four start. Said she won't but she's in second in her last three And she's probably the best pure sprinter in this race named behind lady down to I. Still think is going to get her out with early speed. So wildwoods on top for me behind Valera but in all honesty I'm white might be a little surprise a purely because they do think she needs to a little longer than seven furlongs and I will keep lady's island around to pick up. Pick up the pieces for third. 'cause just have a lot of speed in. That might be able to be enough to get her a a minor spot here or so. This is the last state that we're going to get to on this This episode which is a Sunday silence. And I was mentioning Eric before. This Gulfstream Park definitely did this on purpose running the Sunday silence on the Sunday card which is a a a nice bit of humor that they threw in there. But this solid group horsing you and you've got a Lotta horses that have run. Well the Big Horse. It would jump off the paper. A casual horse racing viewer would be horse. Like spinoff. Who's in the Kentucky Derby last year. A really good race in the Louisiana Derby but aside from a aside from him. You've got a horse fat man who's run some nice races down at at Gulfstream. In the past you're to blame has also put in some nice efforts. Either jet is another one worth mentioning. You know again deep group worse. I have never been a huge fan of spin off so I would be reluctant to take spin off here but He is there you know. He has run some nice race in the past. But you know I've never again. I've never really been into spin off so I would be very reluctant to take him in this spot but I like a horse like fat man. Who's run some nice races in the past and could definitely see him Step UP YOU'RE GONNA win a super deep group definitely not you know any cap division leaders by any you know since the word but a good horse who could definitely Put in a good race at this level of Dan. Them does jump off. The page won the Fred Uber in January followed that up with his second of the Golan Park Mile Behind Mr Freeze. Who's had a great year old ready on that and that will continue spin off. It's going to be interesting. You rented last in seven along. We talked about the rates on the podcast. We've I said that there's no way he's going to be competitive in here. Seven for teach or four hundred. Sure enough I was right. But he's getting back out to a mile and an eighth flat now and to start to go in at Saratoga. You WanNa race at this distance by almost six lengths. So over good horse. I might have lone sailor in Cairo. Cat both graded states winners in behind him there so he does seem like he could big risks. Here I I'm really intrigued. By the six. Just whistle. I don't really have a gauge. On where that price could be for him because he hasn't won since last February at Gulfstream. But he's putting some really good performance-enhanced races most recently second in the household agnes distance. Just getting by another long shot an identifier. Lewis is is a board of keeps he's been consistent and it's the pace industries is going to be very weird because there's really only one horse with early stated is the one wind of change who. I just won't be able to get The my own innate. I think he's more of a miler sprinter type. Cut You know if just was always able to close into a slow pace which he has gone every now and then he might just have a chance so taking a shot with him on top I will go fatman per second because he has the back class is a horse. I do kind of wonder about in terms of going to turns. But listen in like this you just you've you gotta hope. Class carries the horse through and he does have that in for third I spin off who I think will come running late. But he does seem kind of worse than either really really long distance for him to be competitive. One final note that we do have to touch on. Wright's revenue recording the entries dropped for the Great Three Desert stormer Nita which is a six furlong sprint race for older fillies and Mares on the dirt at Santa Anita and You know like we said in the video last time we talked about this is going to feature a couple nights California sprinters Obviously Bella Fina and mother mother the two horses that are GonNa Headline this and the thing that we said about this Specifically about BELFI NUT is and I've been on this since the Kentucky Oaks. I've always been an advocate of running fina worker. Best bodies in that has always been California and it will always be. I'm going to quote myself. Pretty much directly from the Kentucky Oaks Recap from last year that I thought that Simon Cal cal should've taken Belfi and hit her in the four five Horsfield's out in California and this is kind of this is definitely the spot that she needs to be in. You know the Oakland Eric and I for some reason both missed that both forgot to hit the point. That Bella Fina does not run her race outside of California so but there's a lot going for Bella Fina in this race obviously the California thing is a big factor but she also gets flopping back and when Belfi has lobbying pro- those who have the connection. Bella Fina runs her race when she has volume proud. It's kind of like the improbable. Drayton van. Dyke think he runs his race when he has read and she runs for race when she has lobbying prot so it's good to see him back. It's good to see her back in California and I expect big things from her. Whether or not she gets a win here I don't know mothers are good horse and there's some other good worse in this race at air is going to touch on but it's good to see Bella Phoenix back in the position benefits for the most. Yeah it's I mean Beloki no in California is just an absolutely different Hor. She always runs her best race when teams in California. Even if you win it but you said there are some other really good horses. Enter per star with second last year in the Raven. She's lost both of resistance that they've been competitive fields. She intriguing and coming back. Mother mother always consistent Tariq's this have been really nice Wayne in that second to Hard not to love in the Santa Monica. And then you have horses. Who LIKE LIKE ARTISTIC DIVA in fighting? Mad All coming off both coming off of layoffs Not Move Yes layoffs. Fighting men is not ransoms August when she wanted to stay at del Mar artistic. Hasn't Ranson February where she finished. Fifth in the three fever but before that was three for four with the stakes when SNL NITA in a second behind Kentucky the eventual sprint champion in the miss preakness. So it's a really deep group even outside of Bella Fina You know I'm not usually one that likes to pick a horse that maybe not overrated. But listen she hasn't won in the last six starts. That's that's not exactly voting wealth rebellion ahead in your which is getting out there and your back out to California. She's had a really nice work. Said getting back out there A bullying forty six eight for a half mile. That's that's exactly what you want to see her affiliate like this heading in their next ray so I think she can win the bathroom. Do A wintery to me but fighting mads coming off too much of a layoff and mother. Mother is just not showing me. She wants to beat this level of horses But I do I star. I cars a horse who I even liked in La brea last year so I like. I started also be competitive. There one last horse I will throw the eight star. One allowance impressively at Santa Anita last time out Twenty two to one nonetheless but she didn't a nice time over a pretty solid field around this distant so wanted to consider the long perhaps fellow senior in first star of the top to me with mother-mother for third. So yes. There's a lot of really nice raisins weekend. Gulfstream Park picked us up got some Nice Listed stakes out there looking ahead to next week We finally get back into the swing of things with Churchill. Downs has got a nice card on Saturday. Saturday the twenty third including the Matt Winn stakes. Which is going to have eighty-five Kentucky Derby points on the line Fifty allotted to the winters second talk. It's twenty third gets ten and fourth gets five and then in addition to that we got Four other newly created steak. See blame in the Shawny for older fillies and mayors and older dirt males respectively respective gender. Obviously the blame for the males in the Shawny for the females and then same thing on grass with the war chant and the tap in so churchill. Downs got a Nice Card Kentucky. Derby stuff Point points races have been decided upon also one more thing worth mentioning Before we sign off is a date for the preakness will be announced live on NBC. This Saturday so we will get an answer as to win the preakness will be. Nbc has reserved the date of October third but The preakness has also been considering dates in July and August so remains to be seen when the preakness runs. It looks like they've got some dates to work with whatever date whether the pretense of being the last race in the triple crown the middle race in the triple crown. I doubt it's going to be the first but whether whether it is run for a second or third still going to be good to have the preakness back. We'll find that out Saturday and basically that answers all the questions. Aside from when the New York Racing Association is going to get back up that still remain remains to be seen. But hopefully we'll have an answer to that question at some point down the road and Side from that against Santa Anita back. We got some nice research next weekend. We will have all that next week so have a good weekend. Good luck and we'll see next week.

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Al Stall Jr. Interview - August 1, 2020

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12:14 min | 6 months ago

Al Stall Jr. Interview - August 1, 2020

"Blame running down quality road in the shadow of the wire got his nose in front for victory. As we know, blame would go on to a season where he would win the breeders. Cup Classic. Later, that year defeating the great send Yada at Churchill downs race that so many people will never forget including my next guest who is L. Stall Junior he'll send out the favourite Tom's Day. Tot In this afternoon's renewal of the Whitney But al first of all good morning and Boy what a ride it's been No. No question is. Never. Thought he would take a great be back here Whitney with A. Very live horses. Actually, something that crossed my mind, but I'm excited to be here. We'll talk more about Thomas Detente a second, but I want to go back to that day ten years ago when he came to Saratoga with blame. Yeah. Let's start. Let's start there. Yeah. That was that was beyond belief. Blame was a nice horse the very beginning. And you just Once we kinda had a good feeling about what he might be and we knew that the Breeders Cup was to be in Churchill downs that year and. We put the Whitney Square on the counter and. He delivered he delivered every time. It was A wonderful race into. Horse. I think Quiroz was fifty cents on the dollar maybe sixty five or seventy five cents on the dollar. And the Nail Mike Dad on a beautiful beautiful Saratoga Day, which is. So it was very exciting and we went on with it and. Just, a dream. A dream horse dream season. When you hear that call and you hear Tom Durkin all the excitement in his voice blame is coming at quality road. You remember vividly watching him. Come through the stretch that day. Oh yeah absolutely. Absolutely. We He. Gone as brilliant lady she was. Concerned about no pace. And being out there. Easy. Exactly. What happened? And he said I don't want to rush off his feet to keep them close to the pace, but I don't WanNa. Let him fall too far out of it. He just times it just absolutely. Perfect. and He. kept him out a little bit and Picked him up and started slashing and driving like he could do better than anybody the whole game. I felt like we had a shot in. Got Us very intimate was It was a great day. I mean it was it was as good as it gets. Assuming, you had the chance to meet Mrs Whitney Mary Lou Whitney after the race at some point. Oh. Yeah. She was huge in good shape back then. Regina. Friendly with the. cleveland form. The Hancock family and There's still snyder. So they everybody Kinda hung out. Wasn't like a first time deal they were yuck ended up. there. So yeah, that was that was nice. Really. Nice Talking with L. Stall Junior here on the horse racing radio network, he has saddled more than sixteen hundred winners. As a matter of fact, he's closing in on seventeen hundred winners on what has been a remarkable career for al and now he's looking for another great one later today in the Whitney with the morning line favorite Tom's daytime and yeah, we started out by talking about the ride that he's taking you on and he has been so good for you but he's really been good over his last several starts. He really. Really. We're thrilled for the I. got a chance to. Prove to not necessarily people but just approved to. The game. That he's. A Horse that she people might remember down the road We always thought he had a talent and it's well documented that we had do I give and take with him for. Small Zoos and And now just seven year old who found some continuity and he's training and racing. And he just put it all together and he's on he's on a tear. Yeah and I guess it's rare nowadays racing to see a horse that's seven years old is not a gelding competing in these big races like this so many times people say okay he's done enough. Let's retire him. He has a lot of value as a stallion he has a really strong pedigree. Talk about the decisions to keep racing him L.. Well, he didn't actually he you know he didn't win a stake until. December eighteen so Yeah. He wasn't that he wants to drive at all. He would been possible regional sire and. there was a time when we almost gave him away to The starter at Churchill downs who has a form and Scott? Jordan, who has a FARM IN INDIANA? Because he loved the Horse doing over the years and he knew there was a lot of talent and we almost game the Scott and all sudden for whatever reason he just decided to stay sound worth and put everything together. Every time I see. Scott. With joke by sorry. We have go winstar now instead. What, what do you think? The reason was that he's just been. Taken everything to another level over the past several starts. What do you think was thinking clicked with? Put everything together. He's got a chance to run and train and and just get really really fit and then we gave him. We gave him a vacation for the first time. He's had plenty of vacations but. Sales occasion if you're getting surgery on joining or or that kind of stuff so he actually got taking regular. Deep Breath from the Clark to the. End Up in Oakland Oakland, mile because of the Kobe and things like that. But so he really flourish enjoyed himself the fairgrounds just winter. Didn't have a pimple on didn't have didn't have a hiccup nothing. So everything is gone right and he just he just stays informing because he's happy and. He's He knows everything. Well, what else can say about him he he's been he's been in all the battles. He a lot of top corner and he's he's he's now the he's now the one that beat when it goes in these big races. Any love Saratoga three for four over that surface. He gets Joel Rosario back aboard today who has been so good with him. Is there such a thing as chemistry L. Between a rider and horse? No question I mean, I love. Rosario. Variety better than him in the world right now He's absolutely care up here. So it's great to have a top line rider. With. You know with confidence going in and he's undefeated on their source. He's never lost a race. So he knows you know he knows what to do with the horse leaving the gate he knows what to do. About the post played he. He knows I mean I'm literally not going to say one word to him in the pan out the size just Chit Chat. And I I'm just assuming he's GonNa he's looking to look at five. Come out there and see what everybody's doing on his inside and make a decision from there. So it's There's the chemistry with every horse for the most part and certainly with this one. So That's just another. Another Arrow that points in our favor. Yeah. You'll be giving Joel a leg up on three different horses at Saratoga today you have rain spirit in the eighth race, a maiden special weight. Of course, the Whitney would times they ta and then the last race of the day the caress stakes deluca at I. Hope I'm saying the name correctly delete will be ridden by Joel Rosario to tell me a little bit about her. She's a very nice really owned by Paul Varga Out of Louisville Kentucky. She's a great Tuesday's planes. Steak places Toga he's done everything but when a steak and. VERY UNLUCKY TO RUN SECOND IN A. Licensed fee. At Belmont on July third I believe it was is a Friday. And I don't really couldn't see that much race it they both they broke the gate it was absolutely stormy and Her Line says is eight horse fear her her line, the forms, his eighth eighth eighth second half wine so She was back trying to find a spot to run and he had kind of holding up here and there and keep flying at the outweighing in front and so. It's all about the trip She's training. Well, you're getting shoes all night this day second I'm looking at the blacksmith. Hope. He's putting some fast foods on her and So. It's all about all about five and on the grass to have a nice trip and. We've got the right. Pilot Fortin. Short enough has really helped finish She has a lot better sprinting did she does around two turns? So we're looking for Big Punch and just hopefully she gets a clear path to do it. What are the things that make Saratoga special and there are several l. but one of the things that makes it special is walking a horse over or coming to the paddock and you're surrounded by fans that are milling around or in the the picnic area there right by the paddock. Now there are no fans what's it like as you're going coming to the paddock bringing a horse over and walking over in in Pretty Much Silat Right, that that, that's what's kind of depressing to be quite honest with you. You're still. At least be. Still have the hitters being competitive. It's such a high level. Every time you go over there at Saratoga. N., she's GonNa Happen it's still high level. So I I've got that going over and should be great to have people that understands it. Kinda Kinda, used to it to be honest with you. You know. Churchill headed keenly and now here and I'll creek if any person who is adjusted to it or where we were just a tube nobody likes it and it's we'll just waiting for the day with. Me Right now. We're kind of close to. On the gates here. entrance gate, which is closed and. Whitney a normally it would be just you know with tours and cars and and people milling around it'd be like it just like. Not quite chaos, but it'd be it'd be buzzing and right now it's like, I'm GonNa Training Center. Man We'll cars. Couple Todd pletcher horses head back. Right now, and it's just kind of ACQUI- but. we don't want it this way for too much longer. That's for sure. Interesting. To hear you say you still get the jitters. You train more than sixteen hundred winners. You've won Breeders Cups you've won countless greatest stakes races. You still get the jitters before a big race. Oh, there's no question. Yeah I just. Everybody. Does I. I mean. That's why we're here maybe if we were. Running fifteen or something might not be. Shopping August nothing's earth shattering but would be quite like that. But sure when you're the win your sixty five on the program I mean if you're. Comb and one about where your next meal's going to be instead of having some butterflies your stomach I think it'd be something wrong with you personally. Yeah L. style junior here the horse racing radio network. It's a busy morning L I won't keep you much longer. Appreciate the visit any bats in the house up there this year. Now we're. We're in our regular house now. We're we're we're we're bat free in. Some people some people have already fought that fight and. That's part of Saratoga, but I can live without that. So you know we're a good shape. I'll never forget that year several years ago when you had to contend with the bats and you were battling them off and you're trying to train horses at the same time and you handled it with a plumb my friend you know I've I've actually had that's twice up here over the years so. I'm an old on one but L L listen good luck today, We'll be cheering for you and go get it done my friend. Okay thanks Mike in time.

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Al Stall Jr. Interview - June 15, 2019

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10:42 min | 1 year ago

Al Stall Jr. Interview - June 15, 2019

"He's back in action tonight at Churchill Downs in the grade two Stephen foster, and he is trained by our good friend L stall junior who joins us now on the horse racing radio network. L. Good morning. My friend happy Stephen foster day. Thank you pre shit y'all have neon on and beautiful day, so far, this morning, here Churchill Downs, and hopefully the weather hangs in there and the rest of the evening and everybody's looking forward to you can feel the energy around. Well to steal a line from John Dooley. Who DAT gonna beat tons day, ta and the Stephen foster tonight. Right. I'm I'm all in. We're, we're happy to be here on home racetrack and kinda really aren't, you know, brought the weather up earlier become kind of sweating it a little bit. His form is a little bit better on dry race tracks at matter of fact, it's four months tackle on dry race tracks, and, and we just wanted to be that way to see me, so we're feeling good about everything. And we just want you get to this point, there's a whole lot of factors that come in that you can't control trip, the weather surface, things like that, that you just hope that go your way. You got this horse longtime ago. He six years old now is first race. You know. Came in two thousand sixteen. You've just really taking your time with him all the way along talk about the journey that you've had with this horse. Right. Well, you hear the, you know, the trader speak of nagging injuries and things like that. This is this is definition of a series of nagging, injuries and ankle problems along the line. I mean, your extra trainer Jude and your leg man. And if you come look at his legs there, Ken type no Bush, no heat. No, nothing. He just he just had a chip of young horse and some, that's kind of bone bruising and just just things and six months here six months there, and that's an poof, your yard six six year old horse and. We love the source, and we've known each just full of talent. And, and we're kind of amazed that here we are at eight six with you think there'd be some sort of, you know, maybe some sorta arthritic type stuff going on with him and whether there is or not he doesn't show it and he doesn't let us know about it and showing his racist. So we're very happy with this horse. We love him. And he's a tough horse and he's just full of class. He's, he's he looks the part and everything is kind of he made from the Alex Sheba to this race. With no hiccups. No anything. So that's good for times. They. That's good. That's good for almost any horse. But when you have one that, that you've had to turn out so many times, it really is a good thing. And I mean you look at his form and in the job, you've done with them. It's really sensational. And I it's a it's a tribute to, to what you do with all your horses. And how you take your time and you're never in a rush. And you never feel like you have to run them. You just you just do what's right for the horse. And I just wish you all good luck tonight because it's been a fantastic ride in a great job. Appreciate you know, Gail incident in team there. You know, you're not gonna run out of money, but still a lot of people a lot of money don't have patience with. They've just they've just done. Let us do whatever we felt was right by the horse and they'd have they bought that youthful form over in the over your neck of the woods, and kind of, by town to country? They are they Will Greenwood lodge and, and, you know, he's been some time over there with AB shown every time he's coming from there. He looks spectacular. So the whole group has just been patient, and he's the kind of horse you wanna really do everything for him because he, he just he just had type a horse. And, and I personally like older horses of the that, you know, obviously, I don't I've never run a horse in derby, or the oaks, or I would like to. But I just, you know, I don't mind having a four or five six year old. So I just I'm excited about the foster night is, I would be about the, you know, the risen star the fair. Grounds for three year old. So we're glad to be here talking with L stall junior here on the horse racing radio network L. You bring up the name gale Benson, and I'm glad that you did her husband, Tom, of course, the two of them the owners of the New Orleans Saints New Orleans pelicans, and they've also been part of the horse racing industry now for several years in really involved in the sport. Well, Tom passed away in March of last year gal has continued on talk about her continued commitment to thoroughbred racing and what it's like now that, that Tom is no longer around and what it's like for gal. Well, Mitch resident knew he wasn't gonna live forever. He he got his family issues behind him before passed away. I'm remember the drama. It was all over the news. And he kinda got that taken care of. And he obviously bought that I think the, the thing that tells you their commitment. Is that, that fabulous form over there in Lexington Ozzie? He knew he wasn't gonna buy it. And you know, hang around. For ten more years, so that was investment in the future that Gail really joys going there. And they're, they're their sand in the babies and you know how they're like, you know, rabbits. He got ten one year then you've got twenty next and thirty minutes. So they don't look commercial stuff. And I think they're in for the long haul, and they're, they're playing on all levels like I said from sales to the racetrack. Well, Tom's, they five to one on the morning line for tonight's grade two Stephen foster L other than okay running faster than all the other horses. What's the key to victory for times? They taught tonight. Oh, I just think like I said earlier, I think just pure just luck from here on out. I mean, we need the right trip. You know, they looks like there's some speed that could all change for a big horse. He jumps extremely wealth from the gate so he'll play himself somewhere. Forwardly I'm guessing from nine all I guess you, can you can hopefully work over just a little bit. And and, you know, just it's up to shown and the horse. And there's not much I can say or do besides, you know, he's good luck in and hopefully things go our way. That's, that's what it takes to win these type of races such good tactical speed, and he can kind of be forwardly placed or you can sit just off the pace that that's to give you some confidence going in, because no matter what happens in the ratio on should be able to find a good spot for him. He doesn't eat doesn't. He might have gotten the bottle of hair in his last race. He's little fresh miss some time with him. But in general, he does exactly what the writer wanted all time so he does in the mornings also. So he's got we've luxury of that, or Sean has luxury of that. And just like whatever happens happens. Now you have kind of made a Mark in the sport, I guess, by winning the Breeders Cup Classic in up settings and yada, would blame back in two thousand ten beneath those same twin spires that you'll be racing under tonight. Just kind of curious, do you ever. Go back and reminiscent and watch that race even today. Not really not really every once in a while you see it on TV all the time. So you see that lane blames in yada, laughing. Whatever it is. So that's enough as far as, as far as like YouTube or we've got some basin. Amy's Imerman citizen on some edited, I should say, you know, DVD's back back then you could just pop it in and watch the whole thing about, you know, twenty twenty something minutes, but not not not too often. But I mean it's not like not, like, no think about all the time and talk about all the time. It's just it just we're just moving on in his. I mean he's got horses on the racetrack. Every time I see a blame us, you know, shut everything down and watch it run, you know, things like that. So, but if you don't heart set the most important thing, how much blame memorabilia, do you have around your house? You know, not as much as you think I'm not a big memorabilia, but, you know, I've got my wife Nicole, my kids, are, you know, they're into all kinds of stuff. So we've got you know, we've got lane hats, like a lot of people have there's a special reserve hat that Bernie SAM's made with z with the, you know, the, the stop to red line going across it like they do, like. Don't know. There's limited fishing, who got a couple of. In somebody, you know, makes shadow boxing stuff with a shadow box stuff. And yeah, there's a few things that, you know, the most of the stuff that means the most is, is some stuff that was signed by gas. You know. So we've got we've got some, you know, photos and some stuff that Garrick signed, I guess, maybe I signed to, but not not compared to Garrett that doesn't match up at all. But so that's that's important all of us because we were, we were pretty close those last few years. And, and, you know you by knows where that went. Garrett was such a great guy in that was that was a race that I always think about when I go to Churchill Downs when I head up to our location, which is right on the wire. And in it, always, I just am always reminded of that race. I'll never forget it. It was such a dramatic race. It was in the dark. It was it was just really, really cool. And I was very happy for you that day and the cashed a nice ticket to, which is always important. Mutuals were always good on playing because he was in with quality road, and in Yata. And it was always was always some monster in there that he took the backseat too. So. Yeah, it was. It was it was good for the mutuals. There's no doubt about that will L. Listen, appreciate the visit here this morning, all the best would tops day ta tonight in the Stephen foster will remind people one more time before I let you go that our coverage comes up from eight to ten on Sirius XM one fifty-six. And of course, streaming worldwide on our website horse racing radio dot net. Go get it done my friend. Okay, guys, we're we're we're all in. So we can't can't wait. Thank you.

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DRF Players' Podcast and Matt Bernier Show - Breeders' Cup 2018 - BC Saturday

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DRF Players' Podcast and Matt Bernier Show - Breeders' Cup 2018 - BC Saturday

"This is d r f players podcast here your hosts, Peter Thomas, foretell and Jonathan congestion. Chin? Two of the Cup extravaganza. It's the map Bernier show with the DR players podcast. If you've already listened to the first part, you already know that we're seven races into it. And we're in the middle of Saturday afternoon. If you haven't you should go back and listen to that before we go on here. My name's Matt birney. You can follow me on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt. You know, all the deal. I'm not gonna I'm gonna spare you going through and Ashi telling you all the places to find this thing. First things first we do need to introduce the boys from the players podcast, the co hosts will start off with the man the myth the legend, Peter Thomas foreign towel, Pete. Here. We are were seven races in seven to go. How we feeling feeling great? Matt. I remember we did this for the first time at Santa Anita. There was there was all kinds of noise in the background. We sat at a podium for some reason, it was a video podcast, and we went through and we've done something or other ever since for the Breeders Cup. And we've been fortunate to give out a few winners over the. A years. And let's hope we can keep that good momentum going as we move into the twenty eighteen Breeders Cup the home stretch. Now final seven races on Saturday. And the co host the other co host of the players podcast Jonathan kitchen. He's been he's jet-setting as standard move for Jonathan. He's all over the place. He's back in Texas. He'll be back here in Kentucky tomorrow night. Or I say tomorrow night recording this on Halloween evening JK. Are you you settled a little bit? Now. I know you've only been at home for what about forty five minutes feeling. Good feeling good. I couldn't be feeling any better. I, you know, two thousand fourteen turned on TV and saw this young strapping man thought to myself. Golly. That guy's super cool. I wish I could do what he's doing claim contest. And now, I'm twenty seven dinners in with the guy I've done seventeen podcast with him. He's he's moderated my some some things for some panels for me to question. He hosts. You're the best contest player in the world. How about that? You know, if I'm the best it's only because you don't play anymore of stop. No, I do. I do play the problems. I just don't play well anymore. That's the big problem somewhere tiny masses gnashing his teeth. Oh, I mean if Tommy here's this. I'm just going to be phone calls and text. Which one I tweeted tweeted the we were on big today. Jake balance myself, Pete and marshal Graham, and I said, I put like the prince of Keeneland and Tommy said prints question Mark, I have a kid. Tommy masters, if you're unfamiliar with them Tommy is as good a live money conscious players, you'll find he is also just I mean characters probably a good way putting it right characters is absolutely appropriate. He would accept it. After he would accept Gareth. That's good. I've seen in a while gotta get back up the Woodbine at some point. Anyway. So here we are seven races in again, if you haven't heard the first seven races head on over to the DR players podcast. You can listen to that at the end of this. We will also go over some prop at some of the heads at the Breeders Cup is unveiling for the twenty eight team Breeders Cup. Probably just send that over to Pete or Jonathan one of those guys can fire away 'cause they have mall pulled up right in front of them. I'm going to discuss those briefly on betting the Breeders Cup little selfless, self promotion, promotion, whatever you'd let call it. That'll be out on Thursday evening and it'll air twice on Friday both times on NBC chop those up a little bit. And then we'll lead into some coverage on Friday. But without further ado, let's keep this thing rolling along race. Number five. That's going to be I when the week off here on the map, Bernie your show, dear of players podcast joint. Production part two will just keep calling apart to is the fifth race the one mile one term Breeders Cup mile before we go in. Into picks Pete. I know you, and I we have we've discussed this few different times. How I'm I'm very. I don't wanna say fan, but I'm I'm open to the dirt mile. And I know you're not particularly high on it. You're not very fond of it. So it's on this year getting back to a one turn mile. Does it make it anymore? You know, can you swallow at this time around. I do think it makes it more palatable. I think it makes it more palatable in a year where you have a couple of you have a real showdown happening between horses. I still think if you think about dispersing these this race into two other races the sprint and the classic. You you have more interesting races. There. I still think my long help position that it's it's not a needed race is has some merit. But I'm also not the type to bang my head against the wall. It kind of is what it is the industry has embraced the race. And I'm certainly not gonna cut off my nose to spite my face and not bet at or talk about it. Because of my. Not loving it. How fun would it be though, if city of Leiden Catalina cruiser, we're in the classic if rinse I fire seven trumpets. Awesome slew the sprint. I'm I'm okay. I love it. A lot more like UP when it's at one turn. But it would be interesting. The other way, I think some people on Twitter kind made Pete's point though when pre entries were out, and I wanna say eighty percent of the field was cross entered in different races that in and of itself doesn't that indicate that this is not necessarily the upper echelon of the breeders weekend. You could make an argument now that the juvenile sprint do juvenile turf sprint is involved. The case to the dirt mile is what the thirteenth or fourteenth out of the fourteen Breeders Cup races. And that's even coming from someone. That's a fan of this race. Is that crazy to say, no Matt feels about right? I mean, you certainly would put the new kid on the block behind it. Maybe I like that. I always like to bet the tear sprint. I like it as a race. But I would argue with anybody who wanted to put that back in the pecking order, but you know, pretty much those would be the ones that that would leap to mind if I were row. Taking my favorite's the that that I think you could make a case should go behind it. It's just it's kinda redundant. Well, as far as the little contest that we're doing again, those of you that listen last year familiar with the format we went through we sort of rotate on each race. We pick a horse. We get that horse. Ultimately, it's a win place sort of para mutual situation at the end of the two days, whoever has the highest total ends of winning. I think we've come to the agreement that the loser still gets a punishment. But the winner will have the losers donate fifty to one hundred dollars from each side and in their name to whichever charity of their choice. That sounds about right. Yes. I like that idea. And at this point who picked I in the turf sprint. Do we recall? It was me wasn't it. Because it was the one I struggled. Didn't I struggle with coming up with with the first pick there before? Punishment? I believe that was what it was. So that would lead Jonathan Kinch to be batting leadoff here for this race you pick. I j k in the dirt mile where you going. Wish that he didn't draw down in there. But I can't pick another horse. I gotta go city of light. In the thing was city of light is always just been a big fan of the horse. Why wasn't a fan of horse when he broke his maiden because I didn't have them that day. But I was a fan of them every day since that is running the Oakland handicap, the triple been the Malibu and his unfortunate finish and the forego while being extremely wide, and what more slipping up the rail course, going to be doing any better hinted to hang out with trainers this weekend and one who's been extremely welcoming was Mike McCarthy and just watching him operate and watching what he's doing and hearing him talk about the horse and the horse just lays around sleeps all day. He's super smart. He takes care of himself. I wish you didn't draw inside. But from a straight purely handicapping standpoint if I had no connection to the situation. I would almost be okay with it. Because I know that he's going to like there's not going to be any funny business. He's gonna send him out of there. And he's. Going to be put in a position to be in the one path all the way around there to save ground. He's a big lumbering thing. And if he's good enough you'll win. So I'm gonna go with city of light and the interesting horse that I'm gonna take a look at it. The horse faded all year this year. But for some reason, I'm gonna use a little bit. And that's awesome. Slough interesting. Awesome slogan back to his home track. Here at Churchill Downs. I suppose it puts me second right now at this point end coming into I've been a fan of Catalina cruiser all year. I think from a raw ability standpoint, he's talented a horses. We have right now. And he's only raised four times. But I've long maintained it's not just this horse. It's any horse at this point. When you go out there, and you get cushy trip after cushy trip, you can go out there and do your best. It's one thing when you do that. It's another thing when you're able to overcome some adversity or you get into a bit of a fight with someone and you're still able to go on and put up gaudy numbers and put on very very impressive performances, I anticipated Catalina cruiser to have to do that on. Saturday. I still think there's a scenario where he might. But boy that outside dry. I think is the absolute ideal situation for drain Van Dyke. I think they break if a horse trigger warning wants to go to the lead Sobia if city of light somehow clears off to the lead, I think they're going to be just fine sitting just off the flank and trying to take their chances. And if neither of them go, I think Catalina cruisers cruisers right up to the front and then says coming catch me. And at that point. I think you could put on a bit of a show. John sadler. Number doesn't bother me the outside of California number doesn't bother me. I just hate to do it. But I just think he's the best source in the race. I'm going to Catalina cruiser. It's logical where do you go? If you didn't do it. I would have I see the case for awesome Slough. That was not a great rail that he was running on in my opinion last time in in the ack-ack, but I'm gonna go with another horse who I thought spent some time on a rail that I didn't think was good the rail at parks back on September twenty second. This was the horse. I met. Steve BIC today as a potential long shot at he just laughed at me. I guess about how much steam he'd heard about this horse and how he didn't think it was fair to call this one a long shot. But hey for this for the contest, it doesn't matter. I can just pick a horse that I think is going to outrun his odds for me. It's going to be seven trumpets. I respect the favorites that you guys both pick. But I do think for wagering strategy point of view for me. The right move here might be to reach for something. A little more of a price. I'm gonna go with seven trumpets in the Breeders Cup mile Nasr. We did on the players podcast. We're gonna do it here after we give out our picks. If there's anything interesting or some alternatives that we want to throw it a bigger prices. You know, obviously, we are going to do. So for anybody listening and just for our own sake. Just because I want to hear what these guys have to say and vice versa. Also gonna kind of along those sorta same lines with UP coming from parks. I probably in a vast minority here. I think trigger warnings a good horse. I just don't think he's been going. I don't think he's gonna run at the right distance. And he's been a horse that wants to go shorter. I don't know that he's this good. But at a giant price wouldn't throw them out underneath. I don't know if you can win this race. But I'm certainly going to use him somewhere underneath the favorites in here is that totally field. No, it's not be real real. I'm being real. I think what's interesting here is that the game is so different. When you're talking about a horse who's been running at a mile and an eighth and a mile and a quarter cutting back to a one turn mile who's got natural speed as going to be a massive price. So I see no reason to he's not a horse that I would have put on my shortlist. Initially didn't really see that before you mentioned it. But you know, when people you respect come up with things that are that are creative at prices. There's no equity in in in opposing it. I j k what is what are your thoughts? I mean, he's he's he's one. What is? Last three wins were on synthetic press. Kyle you wanted an allowance race at sun and a steak at son. So or two minutes another allowance race at someone look. I think his involvement in here is potential to ruin the race for city of light. And or Catalina cruiser. I just think that's like his only. Only involvement here. I don't think these gotta shot. I think I'm not disagreement your idea that he needs to run shorter. Matt. I'm just saying I don't this. Ain't this spot to figure it out? That's fair totally fair. And then look I'm paper, you can totally that makes more sense than anything. I just a horse that I've had earmarked since the Ohio derby saying that he needs to go shorter. And you're right. Maybe this isn't the spot for him. But I do think he's at least getting back to doing what he wants. And it's like this fifty to one I'm certainly gonna use them underneath and some. I mean, but he's the he's like the typical horse when you're beautiful mug coz off the TV, and they show the prices on NBC. It's like tritter warning ran fourth in the super was sixty five to one he's the he's the perfect horse for that scenario. That's that's got to be honest. That's all in hoping for on Saturday afternoon. Let's move onto the sixth race that is the filly and mare turf. This is an interesting race simply because two mile and three eighths. We. Give back to the more traditional distance last year. They went a mile in eight that del mar for obvious reasons with the turf course, but the real interesting thing about this race is it's Chad verses everyone there are fourteen horses in their Chad has five of them. This is probably going to be contested on. I would say at the absolute best. And this is a long shot. The absolute best good going. I'm going to lean closer to yielding if not outright soft. But that's remains to be seen. Sounds like a ton of rain is gonna come through here. Correct me if I'm wrong. I believe I go I hear this is you. Look this is a race that I it's not that. I love her particularly because of the draw which may sound a little bit silly because she's down on the inside. But to me of all CHAD'S horses. I feel like four star crook is the one that with her turn of foot is actually going to appreciate this distance a little bit more than a sister, Charlie or certainly a horse like a raving beauty Santa Monica might actually want the the trip more than any of them. But I just don't think he's good as these horses. Four-star crook has gone from being that lovable New York bred to being legitimate grade. One caliber mayor at this point two five year old and I love that she wins races. She's what twelve nineteen lifetime. There's not a tone of speed in this race. That's a little bit of a concern. But I'm not worried about this the surface. I think she'll be able to handle it. She's five to one in the morning line. I think that's probably where she ends up five six to one. I will take four star crook here Pete where you're going to go. I'm gonna keep it simple. And I keep saying this when you look back at horses who've won. Won this race. And you just sort of look at their form and the types of racist. They've run in wild allusions form just looks like affiliate mayor turf winner to me the huge big wins in big group. One races little bit of drama this morning when she briefly dumped, the rider and. And almost got away but looking or got backup subsequently, and they got around there and she took the bit nicely. And I think it was just a question of her feeling herself as opposed to having any issues. She's my top choice in the race. I think the price is going to be square enough relative to her quality. It's wild illusion for me, hopefully to overcome the squadron of Chad Brown, orces JK. All the all the bells and whistles with the players podcast the mute button. I look. I think all the chatter live. I actually do like four star quite a bit. But I'm gonna stick with my. It's a pretty theory. Right. It's not a I'm not going to go to my grave with if the chose to be a little bit different on the weekend. I'll I'll change it up. But the inside is not good. When it rains Churchill Downs on the turf course, it hasn't been it wasn't last year hasn't been in the years that I've been to the derby. It's just not the place you want to be the outside is so I have to fade not faithfully. I think she just died all user still for star crew. Charlie usable or anything beauties, you usual, especially if she's four Lee placed I am not gonna forget about Santa Monica. I think that this this Philly mayor has run well on good ground. She's run well at this distance. Like, you mentioned I think she's probably the one that wants the mile and three eighths, maybe Charlie see second. I think for wanting that rating beauty probably wasn't good enough to go in the mile. So they popped her in this race four star crook the same situation. So the three eighths for for Santa Monica who's run well in those races or the mile and a half as well. She's run well with a little bit of Kutch Jose join outside she's gonna get that kind of outside trip on the good part of the grasp and she's probably going to be fifteen fifteen to one like the morning line says he's going to she's going to be forgotten with wild allusion and the rest of the chads taking money, I'm gonna I'm gonna go Santa Monica here, my price horses paid. And I'm telling you right now. I know you're gone. Mike McCarthy thing I don't might. I don't even see it. But he thinks she's gonna love the distance. She's twenty two one so Popper and underneath Pete. Where do you where do you stand on magic wand near I put her up for this race right after Royal Ascot thinking, we were going to be dealing with firm ground. But she's just another one of these in a bunch of them go out for the O'Brien team where just too concerned about the ground would be a backup for me at best. I keep mentioning my friend Kevin Blake and some of his very clever ideas in the final furlong podcast. And I'm not even giving away the store with the ones we've talked about hit plenty of gold. And folks should definitely check out final furlong podcast produced in association with at the racist. But he made a very compelling case for as area as e oh my gosh. It's also bodies all over again. I'm so tired. I'll let you say it for me is zero zero. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Dermott weld. The Aga Khan, some really rock solid form lines in here at a horse who could get absolutely forgotten and ignored and just one that in that same way K was talking about one to include underneath or in your deeper horizontal spreads. I'm I'm a little bit interested. Let's move onto the main track again race number seven. It's the Breeder's Cup sprint in my opinion. This is the best races the weekend. I know I may be again a little bit of an island here, but from top to bottom, I think this has the most competitive field of quality that you can make the case for other races that are as competitive or maybe even some that are slightly more. That's your your opinion to me. This one has the best horses the deepest field in here may not be a large field. But I think it's deep field believed Jonathan no back to your. Yeah. I think it's back to me and another race where I don't love going. I because I think as live as the two favorites are in his cool a classic east versus west clash as the two favorites. Make this race. I'm just going to stick with the horse that I've been picking ever since the waning moments of the Phoenix stakes at Keeneland on a limousine liberal fan. I've long been a fan of. This horse has produced pod winners and in real life winners in the past the trouble last time was obvious. But I think what I really like is the way the pace could potentially set up and just the fantastic record at Churchill Downs. This is his backyard early prices in the UK were fantastic kudos if you were able to one of our UK eukaryotes listeners who are able to get on at those kind of numbers. I don't know what price is going to be on the day. So I could be under six to one or something we'd be getting into underlay territory eight or ten to one. I'd be much happier with this pick limousine liberal for me in the Breeder's Cup. Sprint pitas. A real quick interrupt Jonathan I love limousine liberal as well. But I have seen everyone in their brother talking about. So no way we're gonna get that price. I mean, I suppose it's possible. Just because there's going to be you know, it's the Breeders Cup anything can happen. But I feel like if this was just a random Saturday. Belmont. You're looking at four to one which I grew to me. That's just far too short considering the class and quality of the other runners Jonathan where are you going to go in here? This morning Steve big ask horses. I was fading when we were on the show. And that's when he was making fun for picking a West Point horses a long shot. I said limousine liberal not because I think he's good. I don't respect them. And it's not even so much when I'm fading. I will use him. But you're right Mack. He's going to be crushed at the windows because everyone's all that trip in not only did they see that trip. Everyone saw in the gala 'bout when Jose threw down his dog -als and showing just so much frustration for the ride that he got that he gave on a horse that he thought he would probably meant to win with. So I think he's gonna be over. I love imperial hand. I think he's going to be very very short. I would be very happy with just having imperial hint. And ROY h in the first leg of the pick five here as my two eight horses, and I actually think I would probably fail limousine. Liberals be I liked the horse. But I I would probably just go with promises fulfilled in case. He's just freaky. Like he could possibly be improving, but I'm gonna go with ROY ages my pick. I think were ages. He he ran well last time I try to beat them with with ransom the moon. He ran a one fifteen time form last time off of seventy daybreak and and that number kind of fits into a certain extent with what he's been doing in the past. I think he's back come in the right direction. Pock? Oh, obviously, we gotta make those t shirts. We'll be full worldly place. That's not going to be an issue think he'll sit right off imperial hint and or promises fulfilled. And and do what he did last year run by imperial. I'm gonna go with age. So yeah, I mean I picked limousine liberal, but my second choice in the horse. I love him. I think the I think the best sprinter in the country when he runs his best race is imperial now. I'm gonna go with them in this. But at midday I've been saying for weeks now, I totally convinced. He got what he needed out of that Vosper. Now, maybe I'll look like a fool of Saturday night or at right after this raises run, but it's Erie misset for me to his prep leading into the church downs at Churchill Downs on derby day, where you can say what you want say Churchill Downs or say it was the wet track. Well, Churchill I'm not totally convinced. The case the wet track doesn't hold any water from me, no pun intended. Just because he was three for three going into it on a wet track. So that doesn't work to me. It was more a matter of that run at Tampa Bay off the long layoff. He just cruised out there. He looked very much like he did in the Vosper. He destroyed an inferior group. And I just I'm not totally convinced that he got enough out of that leading into the. Biggest race of his life here on Saturday. I think at his best he's better than anyone else. I always kind of to me that's all to the barometer of sort of greatness. I'm not saying that he fits in there. As far as greatness is concerned. But I'm just saying how good is your good good is better than anyone else's good. I would be lying. If I said, I wasn't concerned to maybe I'm one of the few that feeling this way. But I'm just I terrified that. He didn't get enough out of that boss Bor in order to be a hundred percent ready to go for this. Here. Having said that he will be my pick by default is the third choice in here. Disparaging question. It's just an honest question if Bob Baffert trained imperial hint, would you be more inclined or less inclined to use? Oh, no, no. It's it's not a matter. I mean, I don't think it would be any more or less to me. He's he's he's strictly the horse to beat. I'm going to be using them in everything. I mean as far as from a win standpoint at the price is likely to be I I don't know that he is fully ready to go. And even if let's say instead of karma hall. It was Baffert. I'd be saying the exact same thing. Just. Maybe I'll look silly Saturday night after he goes off and wins by five like we all year. But. You look good work in the mornings. He's kind of an aggressive little guy. He he's all over the place running all over the place. But someone else said he's probably the smallest horse in the Breeders Cup. We with me Pete when we heard that somebody said that I think there was some hyperbole there. But he is he does have that pocket. Rocket kind of kind of shape. I take Matt's point about maybe for a sprinter in a tough race. Like this having an easy prep. I mean, I think about it in related to like a human runner. It's as much as they do in the morning, and this is true for certain Barnes more than others. Right. You get so much more out of your work in the afternoon than you do in the. They say that a race can be like four workouts in terms of the fitness and how it brings a horse along and the just like a human runner could be short for an important race or physical test. If they don't train hard enough. I I'm aware of that fear that Matt has and I think it's right. As for the specifics though of that Churchill race on derby weekend. I just thought it was too far. I thought the horse ran re I agree with you that it wasn't the wet thought. The worst ran really well for about six furlongs. I don't know what to do at the horse. I mean, I think we have to put him down as as a defensive us if you made me pick. But I'm not excited about betting him. He he's really a conundrum as far as I'm concerned. Anybody else that we need to John anybody? That's a bit of a longer price that we may be interested in here. I mean, I think you probably have to we should at least mentioned what more. Look, he got a dream trip, and you had a dream trip when he won the forego and the other races he runs and he gets out like he's like he's trying to go home. Just don't trust them. The he needed to set up a perfect situation. I'm not really interested promised Phil can freaky races mixed reviews from his work of heard. It wasn't good. I heard it was good. So take that for what it is. Public service announcement about the about the dirt sprint and how horses Dow it seems like every year horses. I've heard poor things about how they were working seem to seem to win this race. And this is going back years wouldn't let that put you off if you wanna play the speed of speed, and you like promises fulfilled, and I feel like I probably have to say because I make fun of the horse all the time. And he always runs. Okay. Warriors club like how cool would it be? If the Churchill Downs racing club got a win and at the Breeders Cup at Churchill, he. But he he's a game little thing. I joke about him never having a shot. But he he's run well in some spots. So I think he's an underneath type, and he's one of those horses where it feels like there could be a situation where it's take back make one run in those horses hit the board more often than not when they're not trying to actually like win the race. Gary palmesano promised to get you a boozy milkshake for saying that. No, he didn't Gary I saw Gary quite a bit this this weekend. But he didn't he didn't say anything about boogie milkshake. But I'll pick the horse that he gives me a mulching. Turn the pages. The late pick four on Saturday afternoon. I it's picked four it's too late before Breeders Cup races are concerned the eighth race. It's the Breeders Cup mile. I've heard numerous people say this is the most inscrutable of all the Breeders Cup races because the Europeans coming over. Here may not be vintage sort of euros. That were accustomed to seeing the American contingent has a number of questions. Believe Jonathan Betts leadoff. I'm going to be fascinated to see where he goes. I mean. I make fun of all the time for the all button. I mean, I honestly wouldn't I would feel guilty telling someone they made a mistake by doing that. This race is very very difficult. I wanted Oscar performance or on the mile the mile and a half. That would be interesting. I wanted to almond our last time and almond are kind of let me down in that spot. This actually feels like the race where I'm gonna actually see analyze it Sint very aggressively to the front and a mile race with an opportunity to go along with it in the last race. He had to deal with heart to heart. And I'm gonna go blank, of course. Because I can't remember the horse's name. Not that good food song new song was in where he was never going to kind of get to that spot gets that lady ranged up. This might be the spot where he does get there. I'm gonna go with analyze it. With the disclaimer that I wanna use about one hundred eighty four other horses in my reasoning for picking the analyze finally gonna make the lead in a mile race. All right now. I'm and I'm not just saying this, obviously, you guys happen to be doing this with me doing the joy podcast and the timing of. This is fantastic. I've had a horse earmarked for this race for about six months and he needed a little bit of help earlier this week to even get into the race. But it's timely enough. That Jonathan is here is it crazy, and he's got a brutal post position. But when I look at this race top to bottom, and I see visit aero come into it, obviously scratched at the gate for the Shad. Well, but the Woodbine mile there was no pace from to run at the four star. Dave, I think he moved into the teeth of the pace. And I don't think it was an offensive race. It wasn't great. But it wasn't terrible. And then you go back to that Arlington, handicap, he won that. And the wise Dan, there was no pace and he made a bit move. I have a feeling that. He's better. It looks doesn't look great on paper. But I think there's more there than. Maybe meets the eye and he's back to his favourite and preferred surface on the bedding show that we're taping on Thursday. We have to make we have to give a lock a value pick in an or calling pick is one hundred million to one shot. My are calling pick is visited Errol. I picked him in the paper Jonathan am. I barking up the wrong tree. I feel elegantly speak about why this horse has really shot of winning the same way you pointed out, and I'm not going to repeat all of them. He hasn't really won a bad race this this year. Like, he really just hasn't. I mean, the only negative that I can give is that. I wish that he just didn't get taken from buff. Just from like a vibe standpoint. But he loves loves Churchill. He's never run at Churchill when it's like, what Churchill turf is going to be like, but he clearly from from from from geometry standpoint, something about the turf course fits what he wants to do something about the banking of the turns. He runs well on he finishes down the lane. It's just a lot of things I think for geometry standpoint that fit him. I worry a little bit about the ground. However, I worry about the pace because obviously I picked a horse that I thought could wire the field. He's an absolute naval for me from from sentimental standpoint. But also, it makes sense. He's not run a bad race. And he get absolutely pick them up when they turned for home, and there's three horses that you don't know that are on the front. Why can't he comes swooping five wide and win a race track that he's that he's that he's three for four? I don't see any issue with the mile where to go, and it's probably a little sharp the mile for visit aero. But after I was shamed. About mentioning seven trumpets as a long shot pick by backup. Longshot pick was visit arrow I was thinking more for third and fourth and widest of spreads little bit second type situation. But I don't think it's crazy. I'm glad you guys have left me the one horse in the race that I can really build a legitimate case for and that's Polly dream only question about her is going to be the price obvious that trip in the in the fray was ridiculous. The previous form is excellent. I also love that. We're looking at all horse. Unlike so many of the other euros in here who this race has been on the docket. And in the plans for a much longer time given the connections history of incredible success in the race. It's a little boring. She might be a little too short overseas. Maybe in the tote the inscrutability of it all means we get nine to two on poly dream. I'm happy to go with her. It would be cool to see those silks in the winter circle for this race, wouldn't it? It's happened. So many times it'd be great to see it happen again. French have such a great record in this race. I'd love to see PolyGram get it done. Again, only question is price. But with with going this way or stabbing. I'll go this way for sure. We've made it clear. This is a race. They can go. I mean as fourteen horses in be won by God. And limit say almost all fourteen of them. Is there anyone horse in this race that you think is going to be a tremendous overlay if you're just trying to project forward, obviously, we don't know just yet. But based on what you've heard what you've read things of that nature and what they've accomplished on the race track. Is there anyone horse? You think is going to be a significant overlay from the price that they probably should be. Think catapult the probably be ignored a little bit. And I'm not crazy about the horse. But but he did start his career on the east coast with with Chad. And so obviously, there's there's some concern that he has found success on the west coast because of the firmness. Six the one I think it's ridiculous this horses. Fifteen one. So. Team to one. So I think there's probably a case made his drawn outside. He'll avoid the inside situation. We're worried about I thought next shares could be a clever horse to pick. But I'm not playing a horse that I project the pocket on that. Of course, I I can fly interesting to me likes the soft. And the roaring lion form. I mean, come on that that that's probably good enough form to win this rendition of the Breeders Cup mile. If everything goes, according to plan, and the price should just be massive. For some reason might try it hits. I might just be able to buy the race track because die can fly third. Gustav Clint second I understand maybe on paper. It looks like he's just a bit of a loser in to get the job done that can't help. But notice I thought it was a scenario where he was just going stacked up in that most recent run in the four day. And obviously, you know, say what you will. Maybe it was a situation where he was never gonna be good enough. But I think if he had gun clear a little bit earlier, I think it would have been a better effort than fourth place finish. But also to me his best races to date have come over heavy ground that run to starts back. And then also go all the way back to April aleppo's done. So again, maybe he's not the most likely of win contenders. Coming over here for O'Brien and on paper. He probably looks like a bit of a bit of a nibble or bit of a horse that doesn't want to go over the top kind of feel Gustav Clinton, maybe this is an opportunity for him as well. Maybe catching some ground that he prefers in the spotlight this let's transition over to the ninth race. Let's go on. This is. I think it's where it belongs. I think the Breeders Cup distaff belongs on Saturday not on Friday for a number of years. They've tried to make the headliner on Friday. This is one of the keystone races of this entire event. And I think it belongs into late pick four on Saturday afternoon. Obviously two mile Nathan the main track who is betting leadoff here. It's me. It's my turn. I kind of look at this race. And maybe I'm going the wrong direction. Maybe as agree or disagree with the three year olds. I'm not totally convinced that their best is as good as the best from able to as I realize able to has been may not be at her best right now based on that, then yada, which was an unmitigated disaster. I still maintained she runs something. Like, she did two or three starts back. Whether it's the personal and the Ogden Phipps, I don't think anyone else in this field can beat her. And if you believe some of the prices overseas, I'm not totally convinced that we'll get those here. Boy, I just I can't resist the idea of able to as especially if I don't believe that the. Three year olds are necessarily fast enough to run with her at her best able to as been. This morning. Pete called me at six thirty. We had made plans to go the track at seven called me at six thirty. I was not in any condition. Couple probably had one too many last night. He was still drunk. It was about six too many. Look Abel Tasman at a bad day. It doesn't mean she's not still the people's champ. Right. She just wasn't feeling good. The other day is Bob was on BIC and talk a little bit about how that corner of his barn all kind of came down with a little something. But it didn't show up until after the race she's trained well enough from there. If you look at the form what she's done. I mean, a late would be the favorite in here. I think if she runs this point based on everything that we know if assuming a late would've won the race that wildcat in the building it enabled has has beat her fair and square on a few times. I just think she's just better than everyone else in the spot. I think Montemar girl is just too inconsistent. There's too many question marks about her so mad. I win every race inconsistent. I got a pause on that one for a second boy girl. Yeah. Yeah. Here's my inconsistency part of it is like. I don't she's just not very pretty moving. But that throws. I don't even know what I'm looking at it throws me off. She's laboring. I think our best distance is a mile. I thought her acorn was probably one of her most impressive Scituate races. I think the mile of the Nate that she ran in the CCA oaks was was good. But I think that it's midnight doesn't want to run that far doesn't want to go a mile mate. Which is another reason why I won't be using her here. I didn't take the Kentucky oaks. I don't think wonder goes that great. She she ran. Well that Dave. I don't think she's great. I just don't I'm not just not crazy about monitoring girl in the racist. She's running her last race. I thought she was all over the place when they turned for home. And obviously one of the reasons she was disqualified some of that, I'm sure it was pilot decision. But I just she's not the type of three year old that I wanna take facing these types of horses with the lack of Kana. Wow. She's doesn't. Wow me. P par where did you wear to Keiko? He talked to Abel Tasman to already taken and then he pooped on Manoa girl. But it didn't give us a city answer your question. I answer your question to let you come back. And then I was going to throw the horse achy that's going to win the whole darn thing and make you have to. Well, there's no question about it. Now that you've shown this little attitude that picking monta moa girl, just so we can shove it in your face when she goes ahead and wins on Saturday for me say this. She runs. Well, every time I think it was writer air last time more than anything else. I'm in wasn't pretty but a lot of good horses. Look really tired on that racetrack. So I'm not gonna let visual handicapping come into it for me. I just think she's too good. I agree. Spoke to Liz kroth the bloodstock agent who picked her out this morning. She agrees with you about the one turn mile being where she's been the most impressive. She's obviously afraid of if what's going to happen. If Abel Tasman runs that a plus race. If I picked I I probably pick Abel Tasman, but I'm going to my girl here. And I'm joking around about the being upset with j K. I just think she's. I've just liked her too much not to take her when I have an opportunity here. Blue cries for me is my selection. I thought the little antics in the lane way to segue. So monoploy girl didn't impress you in the lay picking plu prize. Stopped a hot hotdog. Just trying to understand the logic here. Well, blue prize. I think there's an excuse for life did that and he was just distracted. I don't think it was anything crazy and also blue prize. She's won at Churchill four times fair enough fair enough. I think it's three, but, you know, two in the exact two more in the exact, so I just thought it was interesting that specific thing I had some dissonance there but fair enough against wonder, no she was jumping like literally like jump horse in the lane two days ago. Like, I think she's probably a maniac whose this wonder gonna. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. She's a little she's got she's got a resume, but I feel like she's one who's famous name works against they're a little bit in that. I think she'll may be more bet than than than the actual form and figures suggestion should be. Move on the tenth raise the Breeders Cup Turf mile and a half, obviously on the grass it's going to be a bit of a bog the superstar of the weekend is running in this race. So that's the number to enable able comes in for Frankie Dettori and John Gosden. She's the dual winner of the arc. She'll try to become the first horse to win the arc and the Breeders Cup Turf. In the same year. You're going to hear that about five million times between now and Saturday afternoon, Pete I believe you have the honors for this race. You're gonna go with enable you're gonna go elsewhere. I'm gonna go ahead and pick enable I just think she's better than these. I liked tash. She looked out on the track today. Should they didn't let her go very fast? But when she got up to speed quickly. I thought she was moving very well over the ground of talked at great length about how I think the arc stat is is noise not signal. And even if you think it signal, I think you have to put enable in a different category. She's just the best of these. I mean. Never know. We've certainly seen well fancied horses come over here and not show their form. And I have the price on this one. It's so hard for me. I could see a world in which he's won the two. I could see a world in which she's even money in my betting. I'm gonna react accordingly for the purposes of our game though. I'll try to take these points late on that could prove critical enable for me. And boy it's going to be fun to see a run. I hope she struts her stuff. We'll touch on it a little bit at the very end. When we go over those props. This could be one of the most fascinating props the head to head matchups at the Breeders Cup is offering the entire weekend. We'll get to that in a little bit Jonathan where are you going to go on here? I'm going to channel maker. I wouldn't with able. I thought enables. Gallup this morning. I said there's there's about six horses that I saw that. I can like actually tell something different was happening than the rest of them in a naval looked amazing on the on the on the Turk today just galloping around there. And I just think that she just better than these. It's not an impressive group. I mean, if you look at who the highlights. Robert Bruce the winner of last year's race. Not not not anything to to really kinda back in that situation. So I'm gonna go channel maker the really big time form US figure last time was on the lead ran really well on a soft turf course, and the Joe Hirsch has Jose will be Ford. So even if the inside is bad, they'll know by this point and Jose will be Ford enough and be clear enough to be off to get off of that situation. I think channel maker is is is in my opinion, the most likely winner to run likely horse to run second or third out of all the horses in the race. Channel maker. I made him my value as far as the betting Breeders Cup shows concerned on NBC, and it'll come up on Thursday and Friday, I just. I keep going back and looking at it. I couldn't find any real faults in that turf classic. And then you factor in the soft ground that he's likely to get get on Saturday with that newfound early tactical speed that he brings his table. It just to me I keep going back to turf classic his effort. There reminds me very much of beach patrols last year. And I understand, you know, it's not apples to apples, but both both of those were came over ground with some they both earned high one hundred buyers, and they both came from horses that had never been killers. They had never gone out there and smashed her face in where all the sudden in that race channel maker wins by almost five lengths beach Joel one by one hundred and that race and all he did was come back and barely lose. And probably ran to well to lose. He ran Breeders Cup Turf. We'll find out I agree. I picked channel maker in here. I pick the naval seconds. So that leaves me to my third choice in this spot. I mean, look the Europeans have done very very well in this race. And well documented you'll hear that more and more. I you guys may know more about this than than. I will just simply because I'm at a point now where I don't pay much attention to the morning stuff. But I haven't heard great things about vault guys to to this point. But at the end of the day, I thought he ran better than it may look in the arc indicate the cleanest of trips. It wasn't a disaster by any stretch. But I thought he was in a little bit tight to top the lane when they turned for home. And then he did we've his way through traffic. And I thought he finished quite well, I don't think this ground is going to be a problem for you. See that one that group on its own clue three starts back. I guess by default, though, go to my third choice in here. Vol guys. I'm curious. Your thoughts though, again, you have been checking some things out in the morning is the sort of chatter about him not loving life. Is that accurate? I clapped is on him. Once I haven't seen him every day. But my my the one time I saw him in the flash. I thought he looked well I didn't really hear that makes me curious to check it out and see if that's a quirk that he's shown before. But based on my reckoning, I've thought a horse look fine. I think he's a very very logical turn it. If he's. Aren't some good races? I definitely think you're onto something about him having had some subtle trouble in the ark. And having run pretty well at the end of the day. And then, you know, all mention magical as well. Just because I feel like I've seen this movie before with golden horn and found a couple of years ago with. Bajic -als form coming in. There are some there are some similarities and is another who if I were going to play some backups. I for me while I respect channel maker. And I think you guys both make good points. What I had initially been thinking was, you know, eighty percent enable, and then just the the rest of all Geist, and and magical, and that's pending doing a little bit more research on how vault guys does it Justice to conditions here. Maybe I'll write about that. And the racist blog tomorrow or all send a tweet and copy you guys if this interesting about that that I hear Jake as their any scenario where we get a replay of the sword dancer or the bowling green where glorious empire just goes out there, and he doesn't stop. No, I think I think that those situations happen when the riders say to themselves at the three eighths pulled that ones. Been a comeback. And I think now the glory glory empires in this race, and he's kinda shown that no maybe he won't come back to me. I don't think that that mistake will be had again and a world in which enable running backwards doesn't be glorious empires or world. I don't wanna live. One other horse that we have to touch on before we move onto the big one the Breeders Cup Classic. We have to talk about last year's winter towels manic he's buried down in the inside which Jonathan is made clear probably not ideal spot to be in on a tour, of course, at Churchill Downs that take significant water, but at the same time he's run will over good soft ground in the past. He may not be coming into this infant tastic form on the heels of that. P j any chance for repeat I'm going to save my entire bankroll. And until he runs I'm gonna bet it all on him with the BBC. I didn't think that would be on. Sarcasm there Pete's laughing sarcasm, please. No one do that one hundred percent getting he's got no shot. I like the cafes more than anybody. But it's tougher group than last year. He was probably third-best the year when I and some others were very fortunate that he was able to get to the wire I and he's in worse form. I absolutely cannot. See it. Fellas. Let's move onto the big one. It's the great one Breeders Cup. Classic mile and a quarter on the main track. Six million is the purse. This is look you can go to me it feels like this is a race where you either believe in the horse's like accelerate in west coast. And you think that they're going to get back to their best form or you're looking elsewhere. Elsewhere can be three-year-old McKinsey. Elsewhere can be mind your biscuits. It can be thunder. Snow can be Mendelssohn. It can be roaring lions the entire sort of a question Mark unknown in this race who is going. I in. Here's jonathan. The first pick in the classic. How did that? I last night. I think I'm gonna able. Yeah. I did I got an able so JK gets to go first. But I'm playing under protest now. JK fire away. From from contests damn point, this horse will not be my selection because I think he's gonna go off favored, but he is in my opinion, the most likely winner, I'll make another selection for the contest. But I think McKinsey. You know, he ran a one twenty. Let's see pull it right here. I don't wanna lie. He ran a one twenty five back in March and the three year old hundred ninety six days later, he runs a one twenty nine. There's a there's a methodology that suggests that when you match the figure off in the long break like that there's still improvement to be had they mckinsey's gonna find that improvement. I think he's going to be the favourite because exceleron drew outside his Catalina cruiser and Sella court are going to be running up to track and people are going to jump off of the John Sadler. Not off. They're going to pile on. I guess with John Sadler. Negative stat McKinsey goes off eight I think is the most likely winner. However, I will be using Yoshida in the contest who has been working like a monster. He looks good. I think he'll get a great trip. He's drawn outside and he'll be able to make some decisions. We talked this morning or yesterday morning about the weather. It's myth or whether it's luck or coincidence of how well quote on quote turf horses perform on the church showdowns main track. I don't know if it's real or not, but it sometimes happens. So Yoshida for me in the contest McKenzie. I think is the most likely winner. Believe that puts me second as far as picks concerned. Look, this was an instance where I feel like if you get the best out of excel A-Rated get the best out of west coast. They're very likely wind contenders. Just totally sold on then. Awesome. Again, you look at McKinsey. I think he's going to be the favorite or at least darn close to it. I'm not sold on and for loans with him. I keep going back to it. And maybe I'm reading too much into one quote that immediately after the Pennsylvania derby Baffert had said, well, we'll see how he comes out of this. And either the classic or the Clark, you don't you don't say you don't even bring up an alternative for a horse like that after a performance like that. If you don't truly think that that's actually where he belongs. They just struck me as odd especially for a guy like Baffert, I'm going to end up going with in my opinion, the most consistent horse in the race. Maybe he doesn't want ten for a long the way that he finished in the Lucas classic. At least to me gives me the impression that it's not going to be a problem for them. I think mind your bisque. We'll run his race on Saturday. Whether or not it's good enough to win. We'll find out. But he's he's the one in here that I feel like you're you're very unlikely to get just a complete no-show from him. I think he'll show up. Maybe it's only good enough for fourth. Maybe it's good enough for third. Maybe it's going to do. And who knows? But I just I feel relatively confident that he's going to show up run his race. And we'll just find out and see where the chips fall, I will go with mind your biscuits. I'm picking him in the classic people where you're going. I just want to underline how much I like the case you make for biscuits. And I love the point you make about sort of the horse. That's most likely to show form and be somewhere. If the if that super high five carryover roles as it's probably expected to to the classic bide your biscuits is a kind of horse that I could definitely see trying to build some things around and saying he's got to finish in one of those in one of those top spots. I am also Yoshida fan. I liked the way McKinsey looked in the flash I'm very happy though to be able to have Catholic boy as my pick and here. The Travers was awesome. I thought Mendelssohn really Frank the form coming back to run. So well in the jockey club Gold Cup, even though he didn't win. It was just such an ambitious race Catholic boy walked him in the Travers. I thought he looked very good the other day. I think he could get a very nice trip. He's just a horse. I like a lot who I think's going to be a square price and. While I'm not wildly against the horses at the top of the market. I don't really like any of them at the prices that they're going to be all probably in real life. Double win bet Catholic boy and Yoshida and save with them under some other horses to try to catch something, but very happy Catholic boy the contest, and I'll definitely have some money on his nose to two things Matt for U N P dome. First one is is a statement. Mine your biscuits is the type of horse that five ten years from now hang out young guy asked me who's the best horse. You've ever seen run all sail. The obvious ones arrogate American pharaoh, justify Rachel Sandras and yada. But then when I'm not going for that really like wise guy picked to kind of make make you look an insider, I'd say like this mind your biscuits, though, he he was kind of a freak in in. I think that this is the race that could really elevate him to being one of the greatest horses we've ever seen being able to win a grade one going six golden, gene. And then they come back and win the Breeders Cup. Classic very very impressive opportunity for this horse. And I completely agree with you there. I did want to ask you guys because I'm very curious. And I think a lot of people that listen to our shows or probably curious too. Last leg pick for as and Bs. How are you laying out if neither through the question at you? So all go first. For me, my eight horses in this race would be McKinsey. Mendelssohn? Ashida in mind your biscuits. My be horses would be Catholic boy Gunnevera and. That's it. I wouldn't use. I'm completely fading seller. The. We're not too dissimilar the wiseguy pick on gonna VERA so wide last time and the form of that race has worked out so well with four next out graded stakes winters. I like the idea of having that horse as sort of what you might call a value be the top of my ticket would probably be Yoshida Catholic boy biscuits. And then I I don't know what to do with. I don't know what to do with Mendelssohn. And then depending if I have some bigger prices along the way. Not going to cut off my nose despite my face when I think McKenzie's likely winter, but the horses that I wanna get paid if they win in the classic or in that in that group. I just mentioned I guess that group of about about five or six how do you see, you know, at some point? I've brought this up whenever we've had to do ticket maker videos or anything else like that. Or just talking about putting together at some point. You got it. You gotta stop. You can't continue on and go to deep. I mean, look I could I could list off seven or eight different horses that I'd like to use even including backups, but I kind of look at it more and more, and I think I would at to two as and two Bs, and this is also. I'm just sorta speaking loud. I'm also curious what your thoughts are you ever been into a race? Looking at a race. We look at a horse, and you go I don't wanna pick him, but he's probably just going to win and based on all based on everything I've heard people talking and connections. And x y and z I do wonder if MacKenzie's just going to win this race. I wonder if he'd just might be the best horse in the various period, he's one of the as obviously biscuits the other the horse actually picking in the race. And like I said, maybe I'm just being stubborn McKinsey then the two for me. My big my big stands for this race. I don't like the horse coming out of the awesome. Again. I just needed to see some kind of finish if they win tip my cap and say, you know, what they were the on paper with the exception of that one race. They were probably the best sources going into it. And you know, what maybe shame on me for getting off because of one poor effort, and I'm not convinced outside and McKinsey that the three year olds are fast enough right now, Catholic boys a fascinating sort of study. Because you look at the. Time form rating as opposed to the buyer. I believe the buyer could be slightly on the high side of meeting that he's going need to run the race of his life. No question about it. In order to win a race like this and also have some of these other horses, take a step or two back. So that leads me to the ten in the one. So the ten is Yoshida more and more look at him. I didn't love that Woodward. But at the same time, it's come back solid right now and the way that he finished that to me was the most impressive piece of that would word of any horse. He finished fuller full of gusto into me a mile and a quarter to be right wheelhouse. And then one of the two horses that I'm curious what your thoughts are. I'm going to be using a fair amount of thunder. Snow? I realize people look at it and say he had the ideal trip in the jockey club Gold Cup keep in mind. It was a means to an end to get to this point. And I think he's a much better than he is a turf horse. You look and see overall body of work. He's never been out of the exact on a fast main strip understand most of that was over and Dubai. There's probably a big asterisk to go along with that. But he didn't run poorly that day. I think there's a real scenario. I won't be stunted off this horse ends up winning Saturday where we look at it and say thunder snow in the same year. He wanted to Dubai World Cup and the Breeders Cup. Classic wouldn't be stunned at all. I'm curious what your thoughts are on thunder snow and the horse breaking just to his outside because I'm about his anti roaring lion. In this race says you can find where you guys. Roar in lines owner spot and I love tossing those horses. So that's the quick easy answer on rowing line. Thunder snow men, I just can't design the race in which how in which he wins. If it falls apart any he comes from out of it. I feel like there's four other horses that would win sheet a biscuits. You know, what I'm gonna they're Catholic boy Catholic boys Ford, but. There's a way in which he gets loose and he's like somehow like show speed. And like the going into the first Turney finds the lead then McKinsey, west coast Mendelssohn in all these in Catholic boy or sitting right there. They're going to win too. I am not thunder snow guides a little bit of a preview, I think for the head to head between thunder, snow and Mendelssohn. Yeah. I don't like to draw for thunder snow factors into my race design. I didn't love him. Doc the full on bucking Bronco routine. But definitely looking a little Ajibade out on the main track the other day. I haven't seen him every day. But when I clapped is on them. I wasn't overly impressed. You make a great point. I mean, you know, my gut was to just say if he didn't win that last today he never going to win. But you make a good point Matt about the long term goal and the training cycle. It would not absolutely shock me. I'm certainly not in the business of trying to talk people off of ten to one shots. But he's not he's not for me and roaring lion. I was trying to keep an open mind. But that's another one seeing out on the track today with actually broke okay away from the gate, but had kind of a high Nieuw action. Don't think he's going to like the kick back not a very good draw and just a tough group. I can't I'm anti anti both of those. Both those words, I suppose we should probably just very quickly really kind of hone in on exceleron for a moment. Is it are we against him? Or we fading him from picks air quotes because of any one reason in particular, or is it just an overall sort of either one of you. He's a grind e type took advantage of some favorable situations. If you look through his last three wins, and he looked to see who he who was running behind him Dr door city of light and white had bad trip that day not one hundred percent sure that horse once mile and a quarter, Paul prime attraction, west coast isotherm force. I just don't love who he's been beating in like Pete. And I think both new says Well Matt last race just the number wasn't good. It wasn't visually. Impressive. He was kind of a jerk to load, then he was kind of getting out of it in the stretch. He was running into horse. It was clearly short and west coast west coast type of that you want to try to bet off of that race. But it was so slow, Mike Maloney. And I've heard say there's no trips and slow races. There's no excuses to me and slow races and west coast. I don't care what happened. It just wasn't a great race. And so to answer your question. I can't design the race where accelerate doesn't go three or four wide on. Both turns questioning how good he is anyways. And then he's going to overcome three or four wide on both turns it doesn't make sense to me. I don't have a lot to add. I was just really super-duper underwhelmed by the last race. And particularly how how they came home in the last race. I'm just I'm okay having okay having that horse beat me just be wrong. And that's and that's fine. And but I I don't need them a Manta west coast as well. I think of the horses at the top of the market, but Kinsey, clearly the one Jake brought up an interesting point. I mean, he talked about like it was already done about the other Sadler horses. Not running particularly. Well, I do think that is going to have an outsized effect. How the previous Sadler horses run to how the market reacts in this race. I do think there's a world in which Kinsey could go the favorite, obviously, the more money. Exceleron takes the happier. I am to try to take a stand against it. But I don't see. I don't see him on my tickets. Well, there you go that's to quick look at the Breeders Cup Classic their wraps up the seven races here for the second part of the joint podcast that we do every year for the Breeders Cup. But there are still some quick ones that we should touch on. And I think I'll just turn this over to Jonathan or Pete which one whichever one of you have those head to head prop beds. We can quickly through those. We'll get people out of here in timely order, fellows, whichever one of you has it take it away makers, Mark Philly and mirror turf. Head to head is USA verse Europe. So you're this is obviously the the essentially it's the world. I mean, well who are you going to add in here? That's not a Chad mom's on strike fiercely kissed doesn't really count paved, obviously, you're going to you're going to add onto their. So you're going to it's pretty much Chad verse the world, and I think it's an interesting one. I would definitely go with the Chad side, aka the USA side. Yeah, I'm just not interested in that that. I think that with the possibility of team tactics being employed. You could I think I'm getting value on the European side. And then somehow the race isn't run to suit. I'd rather just stick with a couple of horses that I like on the euro side bet them individually, I love the head head concept. It's just isn't one. The floats. My boat agree doesn't really get my juices pump in here. I feel like it's a scenario where again, I could easily see a horse like wild allusion getting the job done or even O'Brien's horse. But at the same time to really wanna go and get Chad and a big race here in the United States. No, not particularly. So to me that that's just kind of a nonstarter. I'm not super interested. The next one is the mile same vibe USA verse year up. I think we all kind of agree that this is a inscrutable race. And I would imagine this one's going to stay pretty close to fifty fifty. I think it's interstate right split down the middle. We'll see what happens maybe the Europeans. We'll get a little bit of lean. Because we don't have a superstar. I guess I would go USA just because like I was born here. I don't know. I'm not sure about that logic. If you USA that one talk to me, maybe we'll make a little little side pot for some money for charity or for some some peers later in the night. I if you made me pick it, it'd be Europe. I'll look at that one. I have a feeling it might just be more efficient to go ahead and bet the one specifically that I like once again. Yeah. Pita hundred percent. I mean, look I picked visit Darrow if I had to absolutely make pick in here. I probably lean Europe. Just because I think they might be a little bit deeper and perhaps again in a race that can go fifteen different ways in a fourteen Norris field. But yeah, that that's a race where I would probably just be more content taking a shot on the horse that I like at the price. The turf it's a naval verse the world, this is this is gonna be interesting Pete. I know Marshall Texas both of us. We had talked about previously. It's gonna be interesting because there's going to be some some interesting data that we can pull from the fact that you can essentially bet enable to win in two different situations with two different takeouts to see radically. This should be the place to express that enable opinion. And it's something that I'll be taking a very long look at also just noted the first time I've ever seen in a USA betting pool where you have the opportunity to day facto laya horse. So that's just kind of interesting, and I like that I want to support this, and I will be unable side, unless of course, weirdly for some strangers, and you can get a better price on her in the pool with more takeout that probably won't happen. They'll probably converge, you'll probably get whatever a martial question. Twenty forty cents more. On enable in this pool that in the other pool. No, I just again, this is based on I need to do a little bit more research on it is it like a Vegas prop where when you make the wager. You're locked in. No Paramaribo these when the Bill hops you're locked in. Okay. So that changes the entire done emica that because as one of those things where we talked about it a little bit earlier and one of the trailers that in theory, if you could sit there, and you could lock in making it up four to five on her. There's a real scenario that could be an overlay. Maybe she goes off at three to five and then Pete like, you would said you factor in the takeout. It could even lower than that. Or on the flip side, you could end up sort of short changing yourself a little bit. If you lock into early, but if it waits saints and takes everything into account until they actually pop the gate than certainly that changes the whole dynamic as wager for betting nerd like some of us and most of the people that probably listen to our shows the two minutes that are going to be running the class. It'd be very exciting. And they'll definitely more exciting than this. But the two minutes post with this race looking at the tote board and looking at these odds chains are going to be a lot of fun, by the way, this is probably the prop that will make the sort of vast majority. I would imagine the handle based on looking what you're saying looking at the tote board and comparing that to what you can get potentially in that pool. I would imagine if there is some sort of discrepancy toward the end at imagine you're probably gonna end up seeing an influx of money in that pool as opposed to some of these other ones at the last second. What price? Do you guys think enables gonna be? Four to five. Okay. Hey there assuming and the fact that when you're dealing with shipper and one who's had some quirks in the past the ability to get to see her in the paddock and see her walk down and see her go in the gate, well to be able to have all those things before you push the button or hand the money over to the teller. I I like that. And I I'm intrigue I'm starting to think maybe I'm going to bet enable. I'm curious. What your thoughts are one? Last thing. We'll touch on this over there. Any other props throw there? There's one more. Go ahead. Throw that out. The classic head-to-head is an obviously I think what they were trying to accomplish. Here was was a classic rivalry from over the pond. And that is Mendelssohn obviously represents cool more in thunder snow who represents the dolphin. So I know where I'm going to land on this one. But I'm afraid that a lot of other people in there too. But I think it's a very interesting idea we'll have some disagreement here based on our previous selections. It's not only the the matchup of Godolphin coolmore. It's the match up of the last to last place finishers. That's right. The house of horrors for vote for both of them. I liked Banville said ibn, I very curious to see what what this price comes back. This is another one I'm pretty a pretty interested. I don't I don't I don't particularly know because as much as I love Mendelssohn unabashed fan of his I still I'm not totally convinced that he's good enough to. Put it this way does his his effort in the jockey club. Does that put him in a better position than thunder snow again, you neither of you were particularly fun thunder. Snow? I just feel like if if we're playing just a head to head sort of matchup. I wonder does Mendelssohn. Does he does he pay the price for being a full place horse who has a little bit into thunder? Snow come and run over the top of him who had the better trip. Johnny clo-. Well, I mean, it's no question. Thunder snow did. So I think a lot of people based just on that pier that pier. Fact, not not considering the intelligent, you know, angle that you've mentioned that maybe that was a mean a means to an end Mendelssohn is going to be better off of that perform about Mendelssohn as he's forward. So in a mile and a quarter dirt race in America. I think that. At least in my brain. It works that way where you feel like you're having your advantage. We were formerly placed kick will plays into also trying to that point that I was trying to drive is that even if even if you think that Mendelssohn ran a better race in the jockey club. And thunder snow did which I happen to think I think Mendelssohn ram better than he did. The likelihood Mendelssohn going to. You would assume have very similar trip to that. It's probably not gonna be nearly as fast, but there's a real scenario where he's up there. He's taking heat or is putting pressure on somewhere else and you're going to have thunder snow in behind those horses. And does it take too much out of Mendelssohn for that final eighth of a mile and then thunder? So look, maybe it's it's a battle for fifth. But the idea is you don't need to pick the winner you need to pick the horse is gonna finish editor other one. You know, I usually want the speed in a match race. And I'm worried about the kickback causing in a bigger field. Berry down inside potentially just causing thunder snow to not show his form. That's why I wanna go there. Obviously, there's a price at which Mendelssohn would be no value at all here. They created these bets with the idea that they'd be around around even money to get that that sports betting affect. I think when we're talking about who we're taking here where sort of making an assumption that that idea will be at least somewhere around. Correct it could change but for. All those factors. That's the things that are pushing me into the Mendelssohn camp. We think he'll get away from there. We know he can run the mile and a quarter. I just think there's less chance for things to go completely wrong for him could be wrong could get cooked. But I'll take my chances. I can't see myself getting involved with either of them. I guess if I had to make pick it probably be thunder snow, which I feel bad doing that. Because I love Monday Mendelssohn. But like I said, it's not not a wage, particularly strong starring opinion in either why I think both of them are going to be in a little bit tough. And it's like this one last piece with enable Pete Jonathan obviously hop in real quick too. Any idea or any thought to the idea that I remember when I was down at the Preakness and twenty fifteen believe it was dick draw radio speaking to and he said that I had dinner tonight. Did you? Oh, awesome. I believe it was him. And if it wasn't I apologize. But this isn't a it wasn't a bad thing. I think it was a sharp thing that he said he said his logic was the Kentucky Derby was the titan her for American pharaoh where he needed a race needed fitness and the Preakness in the Belmont were when he was going to go, and really strut his stuff does that possibly apply to a horse like able where the arch she's just that good that she actually went and got the job done. But that was the race to get her tight now perhaps on Saturday. We see her go out there and put on a show. I think she can move forward. Absolutely encouraged by how she got over the ground. I mean, it's one of the for for an old school horsemen. The hands. She's in the idea that she'd run a peak race in her third off the layoff. That's how I'm seeing. This other very sharp horse players have suggested that you know, the the arc might have been taxing. And she could react to it from having seen her in the flesh. I think it's going to go the other way, I'm going with my first gut here, which is going to be ready to fire a big bullet and knock that arc stat out of the water once and for all. She's without question. The superstar what do you think? Jake. Now, the I think jeez there runs the same race. If she runs a better one either one of those scenarios good enough to win against this bunch. Right. It's not show Highland reels. Here. There's no. There's no there's no horses like that. There's no founders golden horn. I guess there is a found in northern a naval. But there's there's no we don't have those stars in here that could potentially improve enough to to give her a fight. We're Pete, and I are recording this from we've got about five minutes left in the month of October. Jonathan you're going on eleven o'clock in Texas ten fifty four. All right. Get ready to over two was that busy day tomorrow flying back and dad's day and. Tomorrow going on. I would say before we in this thing up is there. One sort of just last comment to throw out there for anything for any of these fourteen races that we've covered on either of these parts of this joint podcast. I point to make you wanna go first Shikha. Yeah. I have a weird thought it I haven't handicap the race fully. But I'll tell you this the the favourite they don't usually have this in the Breeders Cup at the famous get out race the last race after Germany actually have two of them after derby. Price price perfection who's? Half the missed imple- cities whose run twenty times in her life and all of them have been on the turf Jim Cassidy decided to throw throw her on the plane and runner in dirt race. I'm just an she's twenty two in the morning line. She might not be good enough. But she surely interesting in this spot. I just want to say I everything JK said about how when they get a ton of rain here. The inside combined down is true. I just wouldn't. I'd wanna see some evidence of that before I acted on it too much. You know, maybe you can be a little bit speculative about. But it's not always that way. When it rains it. It's not going to be raining as much even though it's been raining all day and going to rain some into tomorrow, it's still not going to be like the cumulative amount of rain. That they had for example, like therby this year when when it really bogged down, I would just say keep an open mind about about all the about all the bias stuff. That's going on. Sometimes you see they dropped the turf relic. They're going to do and those inside passer better. So just keep an open mind. It's been a good thing. The app about on Twitter. It's not a fate accompli that it's going to be that way. But I mean, it's a very smart thing to point out, and it should be in the back of your minds at least Pete. And I think you'd probably throw the the Mike Moloney quote about dancing that was in the book. Yes, bias something to the effect of bias can be a tricky game. And if you're going to if you're going to if you're going to dance with bias, you do so on your toes. Gentlemen. This is always one of my favorite favorite little podcasts of the you're doing this with you guys. Again, this the joint dealer of players podcast map Bernier show Breeders Cup specialists. The second part if you haven't heard the first part head on over you can find video dot the earth dot com. You can find it on YouTube. You can find it all sort of places. They listen to podcasts. 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We all need a little bit of risk because here we are finally at the point we've been building up to it for weeks and weeks and weeks on end finally Breeders Cup twenty eighteen for Jonathan Kinchen for Peter Thomas foreign tell the fellas at the players podcast map, Bernie Bernie or underscore mountain Twitter. What? Fear wrap up the Breeders Cup podcast. May you win all your photos?

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