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"church trauma church" Discussed on True Faith Stories

"Hi everyone thank you for joining us here again at true faith stories. I am your host Deborah Kabong by Kuma Amu- hosts Mary a danger today we are just going to dive right back again and continue our talk from last week which is spiritual abuse Church Trauma Church hurt and all of the above the above the last week I shared my story and so this week. It's Marius turn turn is when you crazy first of all okay. The should not be a good thing to rejoice. But isn't it crazy that both of us have experienced a similar similar stories from real experiences with Garrett. I mean that tells you how much this is. You know. It tells you that this is happening way too often. Exactly that are like across different states across the nation. You know it tells you that this is happening way too often often. It's not a good thing and when we met that's won't you know besides being writers of course that's one thing that you know. The first thing we connect on was the fact that we were both writers. The second thing somehow you know I think I had mentioned spiritual abusers got me to experience. The story is really wait. This is crazy so I'm just gonNA stop here and I'm going to have her tell us her experience so so Tamara. Can you just tell us what what happened. You know how. Why are you hurt by the church? What was your experience with spiritual of? Oh well let's see here you know and I have to say that over time I have healed So I am not necessarily -sarily hurt by the church anymore. I am still disappointed in the way some churches do things. I don't expect that to change anytime soon. Just because we're flawed awed in you know some of us aren't really trying to change and some of us are still changing so But my experience was different than yours. It's in the way that My spiritual leader was a woman. ooh Yeah and I don't know how often we hear about a a spiritual beings coming from women but I in fact encountered a woman who operated in what I like to call the Jasbir Isabel. Spirit if you're not familiar familiar explained to those who are not familiar. Oh my gosh now. First of all the bills spirit can Y- ah a man or woman can operate spirit It is a very controlling manipulated manipulating spirit. It seeks itself seeking They will do anything. And everything they prey on your weaknesses like they're very calculated. They will do anything everything in order to get their way. It has to be their way. I'm tell you some people were to highway or seriously some people that aren't even in in the church were saved operate in the spirit. You so But I could go on and on about this year. The bill spirit but buying started Let's see early twenties twenties What's interesting is it was my friend's mom? I'm even nervous saying that. I hope she never hears this. We're not friends anymore but still aw we were friends in high school and over her house and things like that but I never really noticed anything to off about her mom Other than like we're teenagers. She's a mom. You know whatever right as I got older my early twenties you know I was live in a very very worldly life at their during the most and at one of my just like you stated vulnerable moments and it seems like that's when they they can sense that the reason yeah and they just they just prey on you at them on you when your phone number Yes one of my most vulnerable moments of she popped out popped up at my house one day out of the blue and she asks me to She was starting a church her and her husband and she wanted me me to be in charge of the daycare because I had background childcare so I was like okay the Lord. Maybe this is a sign right. Yeah I hadn't been in my word. I hadn't been praying. I hadn't been spending any time. This other fine yes. This is a sign to get me out of my worldly way it brings me back to. Christ that's what I've done so I started there the beginning. It was fine I would just show up. Take care of the kids. Teach Them Bible stories. Talk a little bit with the family afterwards can go home will well I had a best friend at the time who still my best friend today and she ended up. This lady ended up meeting my best friend. I think she's also also like a restaurant eating out or something and she just became fascinated by my best friend and I believe it was at that moment she started plotting right the ability. I'm telling you they are very calculated insult and saw my best friend was going through her own situation where she was also very vulnerable for so she kind of got dragged into this mess as well so we all started going to the church. So it's my friend who Her mom is the spiritual leader. My Best S. friend. Who now was going to this church in this myself So we go to this church in mind you acid trips. We would all sit around at the table in gossip about people that should have been a first sign. I'm in my early twenties. I don't know much I'm still a babe. Christ you know not thinking too much about it and then we started seeing. She's doing all all this crazy stuff and I mean she's talking about demons all the time talking about had a cast the mouth and stuff okay. I know there's something Jesus Christ did but you're talking to babies us in Christ right now. You're giving US books on Demon. We need to go deer hunting. Yes ma'am we need to know every demon so we'll know what we're dealing with. Listen I I was a little traumatized at this point. I'm like okay. The issue started controlling trying to control every area of our lives. Like for instance. I I had a child with my boyfriend at the time. He's my husband now. We were not married but we were living together. is so. She told me that I I needed to move out because we weren't married. And my little Sassy self you know. I came back with subscription said well the sand is not in the living together. It's in the sex and guess we're having sex so I'm sending That made her mad. She didn't have a comeback. Then but I think the following Sunday she came she was prepared. Oh she I think she thought about it all week and she took me into a room with my best friend and her daughter at the time and she told me that if I have sex she said you can stay in the house with him but if you have sex with him you will see your daughter in a casket left not in our review named Jesus right now. That's what she told me. And that's another thing that these people do they use fear tactics that you to do when the New Year constantly you have to be used so mind you. My daughter at the time is around three. I'm in my early twenties. I am completely league devastated. I went home told my boyfriend. Look if we're not married. I'm leaving you. I moved out of the House that day I I did. I moved back in with my mom and step dad and I think within that week my husband's like okay earn my boyfriend's like this is ridiculous. Let's get married. Yeah Mary I did something that came out of it but that was just one of the things she did to me Not only that She started orchestrating strating the marriages divorces of her children and so Now this started happening afterwards. While I was there she was still trying to control. will her kids life. Anybody in the Church get anybody in the Church of the Lower Tommy. She took two strangers if they had the Lord told me right. Now that you two you need to get married right now now or else or else you'll die that's the same thing to death. And they got married. They got married right in there. Dan Dan which other from Adam. Yes do you know. If they're still married they were but he passed away unfortunately unfortunately he had a heart attack and PAC man right She's yes they got married right in there but she was always doing stuff like this and You know that's still feels weird. I was like this woman. It is crazy but the icing on the cake because for me I always struggle with wanting to please people right that had been my trouble over God which we know is not it. You know what we should be doing But so sh- the Lord new. I feel like the Lord allowed this particular thing to happen because he knew how to get. Let me so once again. She took myself my best friend and her daughter into a room and she kind of orchestrated a A fight between us I started saying. Are you talking behind their backs. It was me was all pointed at me. I'm talking behind their back. He was trying to get you out the pictures. She wanted to be out the picture because because she wanted my best friend. It'd be best friend's daughter. She's like she she does this. She picks their friends their spouses. Everything this is she. She's controlling trolling. This is what she does and I said well this lady you know I was. I was frantic at the time I was like no because you know I was devastated. I don't want my friends thing and I was talking batum but she was like yes you were you were. They believed her. I was in tears. I ran out of the house and never looked back. Come to find out after the facts are this crazy stuff started going on with all the members. I mean something crazy all with every member even the people who were so call how quote unquote elders of the church was controlling guessing to see total person. She told one of the elders that she could no longer wear blue. Where can I? Don't yes office. Is that you use got the Lord told me that you can no longer wear blue. The Laura told me or they would say the Lord told me or that's it's not God's will for your life will for your life there. It got to the point where I I was like. Lord is she bose's I mean. Who is this lady that you always speaking to and I'm not here from you like this zone seriously? I was like what is going on but she was lying. I know that now didn't know that. Thin as a babe in Christ so she did so many detestable testable things to the members of her church. and you know I I don't WANNA put everybody else's business out there I just want to talk about what she done to me and But it gotten to the point where I found out afterwards through prayer that she was heavily involved in witchcraft. Why don't even that? That does not surprise me exactly in it. It doesn't surprise me either. The strange thing about it is that she would always talk about her. Mom was a witch and how each yes but she chose Christ instead films. Yes become the find out. She was still. She was doing the same things she it was on exact same things and then I started noticing. Her husband was the pastor of the church but he never had a say had no say she he controlled everything down to the means conference. They had a man's conference and was strictly supposed to be men and they had a in the the hustle site we have a guest Speaker coming guess who showed up. She did she was the guest speaker girl. I was told I heard that I was done. I was on. I said okay. This is crazy was everywhere. Yes Oh this this is this was crazy to me so After I got married area of course it was my husband and myself My best friend and her husband and Her daughter The lady's daughter and her husband. We all planned the trip to go to Vegas for my birthday.

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"church trauma church" Discussed on True Faith Stories

True Faith Stories

12:41 min | 2 years ago

"church trauma church" Discussed on True Faith Stories

"Hi everyone thank you for joining us here again at true faith stories. I am your host Deborah Kabong by Kuma Amu- hosts Mary a danger today we are just going to dive right back again and continue our talk from last week which is spiritual abuse Church Trauma Church hurt and all of the above the above the last week I shared my story and so this week. It's Marius turn turn is when you crazy first of all okay. The should not be a good thing to rejoice. But isn't it crazy that both of us have experienced a similar similar stories from real experiences with Garrett. I mean that tells you how much this is. You know. It tells you that this is happening way too often. Exactly that are like across different states across the nation. You know it tells you that this is happening way too often often. It's not a good thing and when we met that's won't you know besides being writers of course that's one thing that you know. The first thing we connect on was the fact that we were both writers. The second thing somehow you know I think I had mentioned spiritual abusers got me to experience. The story is really wait. This is crazy so I'm just gonNA stop here and I'm going to have her tell us her experience so so Tamara. Can you just tell us what what happened. You know how. Why are you hurt by the church? What was your experience with spiritual abuse? Oh well let's see here you know and I have to say that over time I have healed So I am not necessarily -sarily hurt by the church anymore. I am still disappointed in the way some churches do things. I don't expect that to change anytime soon. Just because we're flawed awed in you know some of us aren't really trying to change and some of us are still changing so But my experience was different than yours. It's in the way that My spiritual leader was a woman. Do yes and I don't know how often we hear about a a spiritual beings coming from women but I in fact encountered a woman who operated in what I like to call the Jasbir Isabel. Spirit if you're not familiar familiar explained to those who are not familiar. Oh my gosh now. First of all the bills spirit can Y- ah a man or woman can operate spirit It is a very controlling manipulated manipulating spirit. It seeks itself seeking They will do anything. And everything they prey on your weaknesses like they're very calculated. They will do anything everything in order to get their way. It has to be their way. I'm tell you some people were to highway or seriously some people that aren't even in in the church were saved operate in the spirit. You so But I could go on and on about this year. The bill spirit but buying started Let's see early twenties twenties What's interesting is it was my friend's mom? I'm even nervous saying that. I hope she never hears this. We're not friends anymore but still aw we were friends in high school and over her house and things like that but I never really noticed anything to off about her mom Other than like we're teenagers. She's a mom. You know whatever right as I got older my early twenties you know I was live in a very very worldly life at their during the most and at one of my just like you stated vulnerable moments and it seems like that's when they they can sense that the reason yeah and they just they just prey on you at them on you when your phone number Yes one of my most vulnerable moments of she popped out popped up at my house one day out of the blue and she asks me to She was starting a church her and her husband and she wanted me to be in charge of the daycare because I had background childcare so I was like okay the Lord. Maybe this is a sign right. Yeah I hadn't been in my word. I hadn't been praying. I hadn't been spending any time. This other fine yes. This is a sign to get me out of my worldly way it brings me back to. Christ that's what I've done so I started there the beginning. It was fine I would just show up. Take care of the kids. Teach Them Bible stories. Talk a little bit with the family afterwards can go home will well I had a best friend at the time who still my best friend today and she ended up. This lady ended up meeting my best friend. I think she's also also like a restaurant eating out or something and she just became fascinated by my best friend and I believe it was at that moment she started plotting right the ability. I'm telling you they are very calculated insult and saw my best friend was going through her own situation where she was also very vulnerable for so she kind of got dragged into this mess as well so we all started going to the church. So it's my friend who Her mom is the spiritual leader. My Best S. friend. Who now was going to this church in this myself So we go to this church in mind you acid trips. We would all sit around at the table in gossip about people that should have been a first sign. I'm in my early twenties. I don't know much I'm still a babe. Christ you know not thinking too much about it and then we started seeing. She's doing all all this crazy stuff and I mean she's talking about demons all the time talking about had a cast the mouth and stuff okay. I know there's something Jesus Christ did but you're talking to babies is in Christ right now. You're giving US books on Demon. We need to go deer hunting. Yes ma'am we need to know every demon so we'll know what we're dealing with. Listen I I was a little traumatized at this point. I'm like okay. The issue started controlling trying to control every area of our lives. Like for instance. I I had a child with my boyfriend at the time. He's my husband now. We were not married but we were living together. is so. She told me that I I needed to move out because we weren't married. And my little Sassy self you know. I came back with subscription said well the sand is not in the living together. It's in the sex and guess we're having sex so I'm sending That made her mad. She didn't have a comeback. Then but I think the following Sunday she came she was prepared. Oh she I think she thought about it all week and she took me into a room with my best friend and her daughter at the time and she told me that if I have sex she said you can stay in the house with him but if you have sex with him you will see your daughter in a casket left not in our review named Jesus right now. That's what she told me. And that's another thing that these people do they use fear tactics that you to do when the New Year constantly you have to be used so mind you. My daughter at the time is around three. I'm in my early twenties. I am completely league devastated. I went home told my boyfriend. Look if we're not married. I'm leaving you. I moved out of the House that day I I did. I moved back in with my mom and step dad and I think within that week my husband's like okay earn my boyfriend's like this is ridiculous. Let's get married. Yeah Mary I did something that came out of it but that was just one of the things she did to me Not only that She started orchestrating strating the marriages divorces of her children and so Now this started happening afterwards. While I was there she was still trying to control. will her kids life. Anybody in the Church get anybody in the Church of the Lower Tommy. She took two strangers if they had the Lord told me right. Now that you two you need to get married right now now or else or else you'll die that's the same thing to death. And they got married. They got married right in there. Dan Dan which other from Adam. Yes do you know. If they're still married they were but he passed away unfortunately unfortunately he had a heart attack and PAC man right She's yes they got married right in there but she was always doing stuff like this and You know that's still feels weird. I was like this woman. It is crazy but the icing on the cake because for me I always struggle with wanting to please people right that had been my trouble over God which we know is not it. You know what we should be doing But so sh- the Lord new. I feel like the Lord allowed this particular thing to happen because he knew how to get. Let me so once again. She took myself my best friend and her daughter into a room and she kind of orchestrated a A fight between us I started saying. Are you talking behind their backs. It was me was all pointed at me. I'm talking behind their back. He was trying to get you out the pictures. She wanted to be out the picture because because she wanted my best friend. It'd be best friend's daughter. She's like she she does this. She picks their friends their spouses. Everything this is she. She's controlling trolling. This is what she does and I said well this lady you know I was. I was frantic at the time I was like no because you know I was devastated. I don't want my friends thing and I was talking batum but she was like yes you were you were. They believed her. I was in tears. I ran out of the house and never looked back. Come to find out after the facts are this crazy stuff started going on with all the members. I mean something crazy all with every member even the people who were so call how quote unquote elders of the church was controlling guessing to see total person. She told one of the elders that she could no longer wear blue. Where can I? Don't yes office. Is that you use got the Lord told me that you can no longer wear blue. The Laura told me or they would say the Lord told me or that's it's not God's will for your life will for your life there. It got to the point where I I was like. Lord is she bose's who is this lady that you always speaking to and I'm not here from you like this zone seriously. I was like what is going on but she was lying. I know that now didn't know that. Thin as a babe in Christ so she did so many detestable testable things to the members of her church. and you know I I don't WANNA put everybody else's business out there I just want to talk about what she done to me and But it gotten to the point where I found out afterwards through prayer that she was heavily involved in witchcraft. Why don't even that? That does not surprise me exactly in it. It doesn't surprise me either. The strange thing about it is that she would always talk about her. Mom was a witch and how each yes but she chose Christ instead films. Yes become the find out. She was still. She was doing the same things she it was on exact same things and then I started noticing. Her husband was the pastor of the church but he never had a say had no say she he controlled everything down to the means conference. They had a man's conference and was strictly supposed to be men and they had a in the the hustle site we have a guest Speaker coming guess who showed up. She did she was the guest speaker girl. I was told through. I heard that I was done. I was on. I said okay. This is crazy was everywhere. Yes Oh this this is this was crazy to me so After I got married area of course it was my husband and myself My best friend and her husband and Her daughter The lady's daughter and her husband. We all planned the trip to go to Vegas for my birthday.

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