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Fresh update on "chuck" discussed on 10 10 WINS 24 Hour News
"I'm Karen Stewart on 10 10 wins. Violence was expected in Louisville when the announcement came on whether the cops involved in the death of Rianna Taylor would be invited and there was violence. Police officers were shot and wounded. This is Jim Ryan in Louisville for demonstrators were already gathered in a city park when the indictment was announced. Hours later, police were called to a report of gunshots as they were deploying to investigate what was going on. Shots ring out in two of our officers shot. Police Chief Robert Schroeder says the two officers were both in stable condition and one person was arrested. Now the streets are relatively calm. We're now police aren't saying if the shootings were related to the protests, and there were protesters on the streets of New York last night as well upset that only one of the four cops involved was charged in the death of Rianna Taylor. When Chuck with more on that from the South East corner of Central Park this morning, Glenn The NYPD tells us no arrests at all. As these protesters gathered not far initially from Trump Tower and also in Union Square, eventually heading downtown and over the Manhattan and Brooklyn Bridge is And a large, peaceful gathering at the Barkley Center. There was singing, and some were holding candles. One side a man was holding red. They're using taxpayer money to brutalize us.
Sen. Harris chief of staff reacts to Breonna Taylor case
"Is Jon Pierre Chief of staff to vice presidential candidate, Senator Kamala Harris and Korean, I just want to clarify your campaign chief of staff not these Senate chief of staff keep those clear. I want to get your reaction to what? Senator Harris is thinking tonight about the. Case for prosecutor herself she has by now I assume gathered the grasp some of the evidence of it. Yeah I I let me say Lawrence that we have to continue to support Brianna Taylor's mom. We have to certainly continue to say Brianna Taylor's name and here's the thing. Yes we have to ask for justice but we also need change. We lead to change the system a system that continually kills black boys, black girls, black men, black women who you know who are. Being murdered and not, and no accountability for for their murders is is is happening at all. So that's something that we have to continue to do is ask for change and you saw that in in Joe Biden's statement saying what what is it? What does police perform look like what his RIA manage reimagining police perform, and that is banning Chuck Coles really addressing Excessive Force and and talking about no knock warrants in a way that we can change that. So that is we have to meet the moment that were in and what Comal Harris was laying out is the contrast the contrast between Joe Biden Comma Hairs Donald Trump look look lawrence. We when the sun rises tomorrow, we will be forty days away from this election. And I know this sounds cliche and I know this is why people may think it's hyperbole but this is truly truly the most consequential election of our lifetime really generations because yes, we are in this pandemic of of of health care and this economic crisis. But also as we were just starting as as you started your show, the civil rights movement really in. This moment the largest civil rights movement in generations and you see a president that just continues to divide us and also justified us with hate and so that is what is at stake. Everything is at stake on this election. So yes, we have to continue to ask for justice but we also have to have change and that is something Joe Biden talking. About, from the beginning of this of this uprising that we are seeing the street that has been put mostly peaceful because we need to hear that message, which is we have to uproot systemic racism that is incredibly key in trying to change what is happening, and so you have to start doing that. That's that's what Joe Biden and Comma Harris's is putting
Fresh "Chuck" from Morning Drive with Casey and Elliot
"Morning at 703. And Welcome to the morning drive five for traffic and weather on the threes looks good through Annapolis. Coming off the Bay Bridge, looking live with seven River Bridge, then over towards I 97 no problems on 50 westbound belt. Wait locally looks good. Jfx is clear. We're okay. Both the tunnels and the key bridge. Little slow yet. 95 Howard Counting Baltimore County line from an earlier vehicle fire north of the bridge. And I won 95 still some delays. But most of the lanes fact open once again, North little residual. Back up on the south Found shot Chuck Whitaker with traffic and weather on the threes will talk Radio 6 80 double too. You see to slow you down over the next couple of days. We are dry today with some clouds. 80. Afternoon. A few showers tomorrow mainly in the afternoon. 78. There is a slight chance of a shower over the weekend, Saturday and Sunday meteorologist Terry Smith from the Weather Channel for talk Radio. 6 80 Wcbm. Glen Birney has 60 degrees on Valley 60 degrees in downtown Baltimore. 60 degrees radio 6 80 wcbm here some of the stories we're talking about this morning on the morning drive being brought to you by the way by Baltimore Equitable Insurance Great. What is insurance since 17 94 called for 10 7 to 7 17 94. Members of the Maryland Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee met for a second day yesterday to discuss police reform bills. One measure calls for state prosecutor's office to investigate cases of excessive force involving police officers. Another addresses the public access to police body cam video. A federal grand jury has indicted a 37 year old Cambridge man on drug gun and murder charges. Prosecutors say Andre Briscoe was part of a heroin distribution, conspiracy and During a 2015 armed robbery. He shot and killed Jennifer Jeffrey and murdered her seven year old son. To prevent him from talking to law enforcement. Eight or would be John's or facing charges after prostitution, staying in eastern Howard County as part of the operation to Texas placed fake ads on websites used for prostitution and then who called the number spoke with an undercover officer will.
Chuck E. Cheese will destroy stockpile of 7 billion prize tickets
"Excess. Tickets like the coupon tickets that you get a chuck E cheese. They had container shipping containers full of these tickets that they make for all the games. Skee Ball basketball etcetera at Chuck E Cheese locations. Chuck E Cheese has filed for bankruptcy. They haven't been operating like normally over the last six months. So they had. I think I don't know. 20 shipping containers filled with Chuck E Cheese tickets, game tickets that the chuck e Cheese was asking their suppliers. Please destroy these. Because thie not excuse me. The $7 billion in Chuck E. Cheese tickets were worth $9 million worth of prizes. So Israel money it's like currency. It only its currency that only works on the island that is cheese where Chuck lives still It's like we need you guys to destroy that so that Jim doesn't come in off the street. We have no right to refuse him. He's just like, Hey, I've got 75,000 tickets here, and I would like the best all the top shelf stuff bubble. So that's what's happening. The
Fresh "Chuck" from Morning Drive with Casey and Elliot
"You run the channel forecast for today? Partly mostly cloudy. Good should be dry. Haignere, Katie on maybe summer. Rain moves into the area by tomorrow. Right now it is 61 in Steven's abilities to shore 57 Laurel and you're on the morning Drive with Casey nearly time for Chuck's food News. We head out to the chuck wagon for the latest items trending in the food and beverage World Public service for our listeners. In the name of butter Marble. John. Listen, Fire crotch, by the way, a butter ball. Johnson has no relation of Christine Johnson whatsoever could be distant cousins. That could be because in cousins who knows try this is an idea whose time has come when we were Chapstick. Short ChapStick is you know the chapstick inside the container there and you need more. You just twist the bottom of it pops up. We'll have the burrito pump that is modeled on the ChapStick inside this container is your burrito. On Then, as you eat it, you just rotate that bottom dial, and it gives you more burrito to eat. When you're done. You just retracted and you put the lid on it. And then all the mass stays on the inside. You don't get anywhere else. Not a bad idea. And I know a number of guys. You twist their bottom. They pop up a swell Raul has that problem Chuck and ChapStick, But we will go there like Susie Chapstick. Whenever she ski down that bound got all fired up. General Mills presents the ultimate Saturday morning driving cured. They've got new cereals are bringing back Coco Pops golden Grams cookie crisp. And tricks, bringing back the taste and shapes you love from childhood. I always loved cookie Chriss because they want you. They really want you to believe it was cereal. And what they suspect. It was a gold pack of cookies, Your breakfast, just a jungle gym cookies and warm milk over Mom. Uncle Ben's is dropping in the image on the package, revealing a new name. Remember the product logo now the name of simply Ben's original, so they dropped the uncle. Part sounds of Ben's original. Instant rice. So that is what they have on. You know what you got to check out? They have all those Candies and gums and things of that nature that you can choose. Never noticed in Berkeley, California They've now bandit. They now have a healthy check out bill clearing junk food from checkout aisles. So no longer will you or your Children attempted by law..
Romney OKs voting on court nominee, all but assures approval
"It looks like president Donald Trump has the backing to get a vote in the Senate before election day on his nominee to replace the late Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Utah's met Ronnie supports a vote saying the court may end up with the conservative bent my liberal friends have over many decades gotten very used to the idea of having a local court and that's not written in the stars Democrats object pointing out the Republican majority blocked president Barack Obama's nominee well before the twenty sixteen election Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's response you do not put a stop to irresponsible hostage taking by making hostage taking a winning strategy minority leader Chuck Schumer says Republicans are on a dangerous path this is how our vaunted traditions of bipartisanship and compromise on life support before now and president trump says he will announce his nominee for the Supreme Court Saturday at Donahue Washington
Fresh update on "chuck" discussed on Houston's Morning News
"This is Houston's morning news. It is a 5 19 here on Houston's Morning news. Alright, I'm trying to figure out this whole 100 Biden thing? Yeah. The Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson. Republican from Wisconsin, initially came out along with Chuck Grassley. Republican from Iowa. Talking about how their investigation is. Quote face many obstacles from Democrats on their committees. How 100 Biden has done is problematic. They're throwing out these really generic terms that tell you Yeah, dude's trouble. But they're having a hard time. Evidently figuring out what if anything, You know his his presence with Marie Sma actually meant in other words. Much to my surprise. They can't seem to Link him with any favors that may have been done by the Obama administration. At least nothing they feel like they're for his father as vice president, threatening them with iron age. Isn't that proof? I mean, it's pretty his pretty obvious there for people to hear and see. Yeah, there's an 87 page report stating the Obama administration officials knew that 100 Biden's position on the board of Marie's body was quote problematic and that it interfered quote in the efficient execution of policy. With respect to Ukraine and diplomats who were involved in anti corruption efforts of the United States with Ukraine. They complained about it, and they do have the written proof of that. And we also know that 100 Bine evidently has been tied now to human trafficking. What a wonderful person is use of prostitution. Yes, uh, as well as perhaps some sort of bribe or something from the wife of the mayor of Moscow $3.5 million worth. And then there's that $1.5 billion contract he got with China. After he flew over there with his vice president, father. And how in the world Have we not tied him? Directly into that administration. And favors that had been done. I think I have nothing further comes of this and I'm not saying nothing further will But I think this is just a great illustration of the frustration so many Americans have with the swamp. So many Americans don't even know it, though. Oh, this true because the media will not even ask these questions. Very true. 5 21. Now time for traffic.
Graham signals support for confirming a Supreme Court nominee this year
"W Airport. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell plans to move forward on President Trump's nominee to fill the vacancy on the U. S Supreme Court that was left by the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Boxes. Chad program has more Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is adamant the Senate will vote soon. But in 2016 McConnell blocked the Senate from even granting a hearing to Merrick Garland. President Obama's pitch for the high court, Connell said It was an election year. However, in 2018, current Judiciary Committee chairman Lindsey Graham and the committee's former head Chuck Grassley, change there stands but that was then. Now, Graham says, full speed ahead. Other Republicans facing competitive races this fall are backing McConnell's power play. Like Arizona's Martha McSally. McConnell must juggle two things confirm the nominee. And simultaneously protect
Fresh update on "chuck" discussed on AM Tampa Bay
"Jeff Paul reporting the two injured officers shot during the demonstrations are expected to recover. President Trump has started a whirlwind of controversy by not committing to leave if he loses the election. I'm Tom for President. Trump admits a big reason he wants Justice Ginsburg Supreme Court seat filled ahead of the election is because the outcome could well have to be decided there. What if he loses when you commit to making sure that there is a peaceful transfer of power after the election? So to see what happened. Do you know that I've been complaining very strongly about the ballots and the ballots are a disaster. Mr Trump set to announce his Supreme Court pick late Saturday afternoon. Tom Foodie CBS NEWS Washington A report into Joe Biden and his son Hunter, and whether there was corruption in Ukraine is not expected to reveal any criminal activity. The Biden campaigns as the document is hard core right wing conspiracy theory. Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer blasted the two Republican chairman who led this report this entire disgraceful affair. And the Johnson report should be relegated to the dustbin of history on Capitol Hill, Mike Emanuel Fox News public viewing of the late Supreme Court, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg casket continues today. Under the portico of the Supreme Court building begins work, died on Friday at the age of 87 after serving on the high court for more than 33 years. The weekly report. On first time claims for unemployment benefits comes out this morning, the experts forecast. 840,000. Americans filed initial jobless claims last week. That's down from 860,000 numbers coming out at about 8 30. It was a big night for the Tampa Bay Rays, clinching the division for the first time in 10 years they raise atop the American League East. If there's a swing and a drive by Randy towards Center field and deep back at a memo to the wall, it's gone. To run home run by Randy Arosa Raina called courtesy of W. D. A radio Randy Ros Arena with a two run blast. You attack on another solo home run as the Rays beat the New York Mets on Wednesday. 8 to 5 that win, locking up the Ale East Division crown for Tampa Bay For the first time since 2010. The Rays now joined the Dodgers, Oakland Athletics in Atlanta Braves and having clinched their division titles so far. Matt Napolitano, Fox News some eBay officials accused of sending spiders and Roaches. To some people critical of the online auction site. Talk about a creepy crawly criminal case. California residents Brian Guilbert, Stephanie Pop, Stephanie Stockwell of Veronica's E are charged in the cyber stalking campaign. Prosecutors say the courts have retaliated against a Massachusetts couple who published an online newsletter highly critical of the auction giant of the disturbing items were sent to their home, including a funeral wreath and a bloody pig Halloween mask. He also sent pornographic magazines with the husband's name on them to their neighbor's house and plan to break into the couple's garage to install a GPS device on their car. Three other eBay employees are also charged in the case. Tom Bugatti. Fox News, Pumpkin Spice is turning into a comfort food. Kraft Heinz revealed the future release of Pumpkin, Spice, Mac and cheese, but it will only be available in Canada and only 1000 boxes will be sold. People who want one. We'll have to get on a waiting list. It's 5 35 at news radio Wofl. A weather is next. Listen, I have no time to slow down. So I need a snack bar that can keep up with my job. My kids my workouts. That's.
Trump Zeroes In on Judge Barrett as Likely Supreme Court Pick
"Reportedly met today with the woman considered a front runner to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. Amy Cockney. Barrett had been on the president's short list for the nomination that ended up going to Justice Brett Kavanaugh. The president talked about the high court vacancy just a short time ago during a rally in Ohio. I have five That we're vetting right now. It'll be a brilliant person. It will be a woman. It will be a woman on. We're looking forward to it. It will probably announce it on Saturday, maybe Friday. But Saturday And it's a big day for our country. It's a big day for you. It's a big day for Ohio. But the Senate Democratic leader says it's too soon to name a nominee Chuck Schumer says Ginsberg made it clear she didn't want a replacement name until after the election. The Senate Republican majority should have no problem adhering to Justice Ginsburg's dying wish. Leader, McConnell held a Supreme Court vacancy open for nearly a year in order to quote give the people a voice. In selecting a Supreme Court justice. But Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says that decision was made when there was a Republican Senate and a Democratic president, he says it's a different story here with the same party. Controlling both. At least two Republican senators have said they think confirmation hearing should wait until the new president is selected. Utah Republican Mitt Romney says he won't make his decision until GOP lawmakers talk it out pulls
The Latest: Manchin against high court vote before election
"The majority in the Senate is pushing for a quick vote on a replacement for the late Supreme Court justice Ruth pater Ginsburg president trump wants a vote by election day Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says he will get it we're gonna vote on this nomination on this floor McConnell brought up why there was no vote in twenty sixteen after the death of justice Antonin Scalia right on the wall is asking Senate Republican or non usual favor McConnell says the president now has the majority party in the Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer says it's an exercise in raw political power and nothing nothing more Schumer says this could have a long lasting impact if his Senate majority over the course of six years steals two Supreme Court seats using completely contradictory rationales how could we be how could we expect to trust the other side again and Donahue Washington
The Latest: Manchin against high court vote before election
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The Latest: Manchin against high court vote before election
"The majority in the Senate is pushing for a quick vote on a replacement for the late Supreme Court justice Ruth pater Ginsburg president trump wants a vote by election day Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says he will get it we're gonna vote on this nomination on this floor McConnell brought up why there was no vote in twenty sixteen after the death of justice Antonin Scalia right on the wall is asking Senate Republican or non usual favor McConnell says the president now has the majority party in the Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer says it's an exercise in raw political power and nothing nothing more Schumer says this could have a long lasting impact if his Senate majority over the course of six years steals two Supreme Court seats using completely contradictory rationales how could we be how could we expect to trust the other side again and Donahue Washington
Two Republican senators say they oppose Supreme Court vote before election
"Well, the Senate is gearing up for a big battle over the president's nominee. Whoever it turns out to be More from W. GOP's Mitchell Miller today on the hill. Let's have an election. Let's see the results and then let us choose somebody on the Supreme Court Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, who's urging Democrats to call their senators and press for a vote to be held after November. 3rd two Senate Republicans main Susan Collins and Alaska's Lisa Murkowski have said they believe a vote should take place after the election. That's drawing criticism from President Trump, who spoke on Fox. I think that Susie College is going to be hurt very badly, or people are going to take this. If Republicans lose four GOP senators, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell would not be able to get approval of the president's nominee
Trump expects to announce Supreme Court nominee on Friday or Saturday
"Services have yet to be set for a Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who died on Friday. But correspondent Karen Travers reports the Republican rush to replace her is well underway, President Trump said on Fox News Monday morning. He'll announce his Supreme Court nominee on Friday or Saturday, and he put pressure on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to move quickly on the confirmation process. I think it should be voted on And done before the election. I think that will be good for the Republican Party, and I think it would be good for everybody to get it over with, because it's always controversial. McConnell has not given any indication on whether a vote could come before Election Day, which is just 43 days away. GOP Senators Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and main Susan Collins have already said they were opposed to confirming a trump nominee prior to election day. Cory Gardner, Chuck Grassley and Mitt Romney. You're said to be on the fence to more Republicans would be needed to block such a confirmation if, as expected, all of the Democratic caucus opposes the pick.
Biden to GOP senators: Don't jam through Ginsburg nominee
"Pressure is mounting on senators to support or oppose a quick vote to fill Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg seat standing together last night at a Brooklyn memorial to Ginsburg Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer and representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortez vow to fight Republican she said my most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced by a minute until a new president is in store we need to make sure that this vacancy is protected it takes for a public instead right ranks to keep president trump's nominee off the court to have already said it we need to more that audio courtesy of W. N. Y. W. Julie Walker New York
Judge dreadthe fight for Ruth Bader Ginsburgs seat
"On Friday US Supreme Court. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died of cancer at the age of eighty seven. A candlelit vigil was held the following day outside the Supreme Court. Justice. GINSBURG was only the second woman appointed to the Supreme Court after being nominated by Bill Clinton in one thousand, nine hundred. I. In. Solemnly swear he was a champion of women's rights, and later in life she achieved restore status especially among young women. Now her death has set the stage for a divisive battle to replace her on the court. She was born in Brooklyn to an immigrant Father Dad was from Odessa in in Russia and to a first generation mother she was Jewish John. Fascination is the economist Washington correspondent and she was a trailblazer throughout her life. She was one of only nine women among five hundred men at Harvard law school, and when she arrived. Erwin griswold, who was then the Dean asked women in the class to stand up and justify taking a spot that could have gone to a man. She said the reason she took the spot is it was important that she understood her husband's work that would've made her husband Marty last Mardi was tax attorney well known in his own right he predeceased her but they had a famously loving and productive and equal partnership. She had a relentless work ethic in. Twenty five years in the Supreme Court she never missed today she's arrived four bouts of cancer before this fifth one killed her it was only after she got sick that she called by phone to oral arguments. I. Think People often have this idea that Supreme Court justices are sort of Stentorian wizards ready to shout down lawyer who they disagree with justice. GINSBURG was not like that she spoke very slowly very deliberately, which mirrors I think how she wrote and how she argued and how she thought she was meticulous. She was precise she she was not a showy justice. She came onto the court actually considered a moderate. There are a lot of people on the left who were upset when she was appointed because she was considered sort of two centrist. But as the court steadily moved rightward during her tenure, she has found herself the de facto leader of the courts liberal wing. Junk she spent a long time on the court. What did she achieve? Well, she was on the Supreme Court for Twenty seven years, and before that was on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, which is widely considered the second most important court in America for for thirteen. So she was a judge for forty years I was age sixty when I was nominated in some people thought I was. Too Old for the job. Now I'm into my twenty-seventh starting my twenty-seventh year on the courts on one of the longest tenured. Justices. So if you worried about my age. It was unnecessary. Before that, she argued six cases before the Supreme Court and she was involved with thirty more as the first director of the US women's rights project. The first of those report court cases was in Reid versus Reid for which she wrote a brief arguing against the law in Ohio that preferred men to women in naming executive estates. She won that case in her first oral argument before the Supreme Court. She argued against the military policy that denied many husbands, officers, the same housing and medical benefits that automatically provided officers. Wise. The thinking was that women are somehow inherently more dependent on their husbands and husbands on their wise. Now, in that case, remember she effectively represented the husband she represented family but she represented the shoes argue in favor of the husband's benefits and she austin said that she was not arguing for women's rights she was arguing for the constitutional equality of men and women. Her death is come at a critical time in American politics. It's just six weeks away from the election. So what impact does that have? Well I think it's a little too early to say that definitively. It looks as though both sides are gearing up for battle, but they seem to be quietly circling each other in two thousand sixteen. The Supreme Court is central to Donald Trump's success I think because. There is an open seat in two thousand, Sixteen Justice Antonin Scalia died, and Mitch McConnell who is then the Senate minority leader rather than hold a hearing on Barack Obama's chosen replacement for Justice Scalia whose Merrick Garland he came up with a rationale disguises the principle which was that the causing election was coming up the speech beheld open. So the voters could decide now that had never been done before it was clearly a power play. It was a live sort of issue for Republicans impelled I think a lot of them who otherwise would have held donald trump at arm's length to decide that just had to vote for him this time I. Think Donald Trump is hoping for a similar effect this time, but he also wants to get the filled as quickly as possible. For Democrats donations had started pouring in, they have been pouring all weekend. Democrats seem riled up by this. I think in their view if Donald Trump managed to get a successor onto the court, this'll be the seconds effectively stolen seat right? The I was Neil Gorsuch. who was given the seat that was held open by Mitch McConnell, and the second would be whoever donald trump nominees to replace justice GINSBURG who gets the seat because Mitch McConnell did not follow the principle he set up in two thousand sixteen. John Do you think Senate. Republicans have the numbers to they have the votes to get in trump's nominee through before the election. Well this is the question on everyone's mind. Right so far Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski Republican senators from from Maine Alaska, had said that they will not vote for replacement before November third they have said that the president who wins on November third you choose the replacement now that only gets Democrats to forty nine and they need fifty one because in the case of a tie Mike. Pence cast the tiebreaking vote Lindsey Graham had previously said he would abide by Mitch McConnell's rule from twenty sixteen. He has now gone back on that apparently because he's angry Democrats didn't roll over for Brad Cavanaugh Chuck. Grassley, who's a senator from Iowa has also previously spoken in favor of McConnell's precedent. I, have a very hard time imagining that when push comes to shove, he'll stand by his. Word and so there really is nothing Democrats can do unless they can persuade two other Republicans to come join them, and if they can't persuade those Republicans and tip the balance what happens. Then what are the consequences for the years ahead on American politics? It's clear that what McConnell did in two thousand sixteen was a tremendous violation of norms I think it's not a good principal to. Uphold I think arguing that this is now how Supreme Court seats should be awarded that in an election year, you effectively have to hold the seat open until the end of the election is a bad precedent but I think there's a difference between saying Republicans should be consistent for the sake of consistency and Republicans should follow this principle because that's how court seat should be given out now. From the Democratic Base, there's been a tremendous push to threaten Republicans with repercussions if. Retake. The Senate and the president in that includes making Puerto Rico in Washington DC states, which would effectively at least in the near in medium-term Give Democrats four senators people have also been talking about expanding the court. So the reason they are Nice Ring Court justices is not constitutional legal. It's just a statute. So if they were minded and had a majority had a president who would sign it into law, they put eleven or thirteen justices on the supreme court. The problem with that for Democrats I think is that it sort of shifts the terms. Of the debate that they are now winning I think the way Joe, Biden has pitched. This campaign is on the one hand. You have the sort of chaotic destructive Donald Trump on the other. You have Joe Biden Palm known figure who will get us back to normal. If, he comes out and endorses expanding the court or State of DC in Puerto Rico, which to be clear he has not done. He is actually a opposed expanded from court but if he comes out if Democrats threaten this, then the debate becomes a lot murkier. Then it becomes the radical change that Joe Biden wants to do right take fifty, two states and putting thirteen on Supreme Court against Donald Trump will keep things as are I think that debate does not play out very well for Democrats. John Thank you very much time.
Blunt says there's "plenty of time" to confirm Ginsburg's replacement
"There's a large number of Republican senators who said in 2016, There should not be a vote on a Supreme Court nominee in an election year that was the principal. They laid down explicitly in order to block President Obama. How many of them are changing their minds? Well, all of them, but I would say also in the course of this time, McConnell and Republicans have always made the argument that what the standard was in 2016 is because the Republicans controlled the Senate and Democrats controlled the White House and they say when the same party controls both That's standard doesn't apply. This is, of course, a completely arbitrary standard. This is not about the rules of the Senate, but it is happening within the confines of the Senate. The mature sounds like one of those sounds like one of those obscure baseball statistics like saying this is the 3rd 3rd baseman since 1972 to bat to 70 left handed. I mean, it's such a narrow standard that they claim to off Appel. But I do have to stop a note. That wasn't what McConnell statement Wass. At the moment the vacancy occurred, he said, The people should decide that was the principal. He laid out. But please proceed. That is true. And this is what I'm saying. It's an arbitrary standard that they've set. But it's within their power of the majority and Senator Roy Blunt Mazari. He's a member of the leadership team. He told CBS's face the Nation yesterday. He believes they could do it before the election should take us long as it needs to take. But no longer There is plenty of time to get this done, and Republicans are lining up behind McConnell. Just two senators, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Susan Collins of Maine have said they oppose going forward before the election. You need to be two more senators to say the same thing to stop the process. It's also going to matter who the nominee is and how fast they could move. But I'd note that those two federal judges that Mar just mentioned have already been vetted, and they have already been supported by people like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski. And it is the Senate's power under the Constitution as you point out, so what options if any, to Democrats have very few. They have a handful of minor delaying tactics, Days, not weeks here, but Chuck Schumer's the top Democrat in the Senate, he's publicly warning Republicans that there will be retribution if the party takes control of the Senate in this November elections, which is very possible. Progressives and activists are calling for Democrats to do literally everything possible to try to slow this down until after the election. This is Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, speaking yesterday in New York. We all need to be more courageous. And we all must must act in unprecedented ways to make sure that that our rights are stabilized. And to Mitch McConnell, we need to tell him That he is playing with fire. There's
Arrest made after suspicious letter sent to the White House in Washington, D.C.
"The FBI reports the arrest of a woman in the suspicious letter sent to the president. The FBI announces its arrested a woman with a gun at the New York Canadian border in connection with a suspicious letter that was sent to President Trump that the White House. The letter was intercepted before it got to the President Associated Press reporting that the letter contained the poison rice in three law enforcement officials telling the AP that Customs and border protection officers at the Peace Bridge crossing near Buffalo took the woman into custody. ABC is Chuck Stevenson.
Boston - First Red Panda Born At Buttonwood Park Zoo Makes Debut In Outdoor Habitat
"Born at Buttonwood Park Zoo in New Bedford made his debut outdoors yesterday and, well, the timing couldn't have been any better. Yesterday was International Red Panda Day. Kodo, the baby Red Panda, Born on June 4th, Mom and dad, the zoo's red panda couple in there named I don't know where they get this. Marie and Jacob course it is. Red pandas native to nape all northeastern India, Bhutan and parts of China and they are an endangered species. Senator Chuck Schumer Out to save Broadway
Majority Leader McConnell says a Trump Supreme Court nominee will receive vote by full Senate
"From ABC News. I'm Chuck's Everton solemnly swear that I will support and defend the constant, the landmark Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, The second woman seated on the court is dead at 87. ABC is Karen Travers in Washington, Ruth Bader Ginsburg. True legacy may be as the legal architect of the equal rights movement, she would help lead a movement that changed the nation challenging laws that treated men and women differently in employment, housing and government benefits. ABC News political analyst Steve Roberts Bater Ginsberg Legacy Is felt and reflected in all of those landmarks there and because she was among the leading figures that helped not only Guaranty Women's right to vote but also encourage women to be confident and brave in public life. President Trump's reaction after a campaign rally in Minnesota or not, she was an amazing woman. Lead on amazing life actually said that 04 years ago, Senate Republican Majority Leader Mitch McConnell refused to act on President Obama's court nominee in an election year, saying the American people should have a voice McConnell tonight. Saying the full Senate will act on President Trump's nominee this year. Republican senators Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, saying they will not vote on a nominee until after Inauguration Day.
Death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg sets up contentious U.S. fight over replacement
"In the Supreme Court, Second Woman Justice and the lawyer who helped and federal sex discrimination. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died at her home in Washington. She was 87. Now the fight to replace her. The president has been ready to go should he have the chance to make another nomination to the Supreme Court? He had to already Cavanaugh and near Neil Gorsuch. And even just last week he didn't event where he said he's adding 20 names to this list. He has his list ready to go. He has a majority in the Senate. But with seven weeks now, less than that, until election day, the big question will be. Can they get this through once he does make a nomination? ABC is Karen Trevor's Senate Democratic Minority leader, Chuck Schumer, reminding Republicans that they blocked President Obama from confirming a justice, saying nearly 300 days before an election was too Soon and that the next president should make the pick. Justice Ginsburg has died less than two months before this election and the field ABC News President
New York City golf course caretaker dies trying to protect grounds
"This morning are searching for a group of teens on bikes who sped away after pushing a queen's golf course groundskeeper. To the ground. The caretaker later died in 10 10 wins reporter Glenn Chuck has more live from Woodhaven this morning, Glenn And Bridget. This happened back on the September the eighth at Forest Park Golf Course where I am this morning 79 year old caretaker, William Hench. He's worked here for years, and he saw these canes riding bikes, trying to steal a flag from near the 15th grain that when he confronted them, one of the teams got off their bike and pushed Hinchey to the ground. He broke his hip and they had to be taken to Jamaica Hospital when he was being treated. His condition actually worsened on September 11th three days later last Friday. He died. Utopia Parkway. Where did she live? This is a neighbor named Bon. It's a terrible thing is so much going on that everybody is going through so much trauma that that's just another thing happening. That shouldn't have There are several reports out now this morning that hint she actually had some medical issues and recently had had a heart procedure, so an autopsy is being performed to determine the cause of his death. We should learn the results today as police are still trying to track down those teams that were involved. Definitely want to talk to him.
"chuck" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press
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"chuck" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press
"Covering sonoma. Thanks guys appreciate it states. They having let me pause are punching this there. We'll be right back with chuck Wasserman after quick break. Hey everyone it's true. Mainly MSNBC correspondent and host of the podcast into America Corona viruses infecting and killing black Americans at a disproportionately high rate. A big reason for that air quality industries killing us and on top of that the corona virus killing us so we have double whammy in our latest episode rule going into a stretch of Louisiana along the Mississippi River where many black residents have been suffering from emissions related cancer asthma and other health conditions for decades. We'll find out what one polluted county reveals about the race gap in this pandemic. That's an economic injustice and environmental injustice racial injustice. And then when you add. Health overlaid on top is a house injustice. Subscribe for free. Wherever you your podcast. Welcome back my next guest is. Sas Chuck Cluster is written for a number of publications ranging from ESPN DOT COM esquire magazine. He's authored almost a dozen books. His most recent is raised in captivity. Which I enjoyed mightily might be best described as fictional non fiction and you also have your names on board games. What's that like well? They're not actually board games because there isn't a board well right staring at it in my house here. It's like you know like. Wow what does it take to be turned into a game? Well okay the. The first deck of those cards was called hypotheticals. That was actually somebody else's idea. They were like they went through might other books inbound the hypothetical questions and then put them all together that I wrote like twenty more to fill it out to fifty and that came out. I didn't think anything I would at the time. I think baby five thousand dollars to do it or whatever but those guards have sold like I don't know one hundred fifty thousand decks or something like that so I decided I would at some point. Do another one. I mean. It's not the main thing I do but I so I finished it okay and I was like maybe I should rush this out because people are stuck at home now in this really fun but as it turns out the factory who makes them is in China so I can't. I can't push this lowered anymore than it. It didn't wait default. Well it is. It has made appearances at various adult beverage parties in this household so so I you know I I wanted to have you on because when I listened to your interview with Simmons you know their meandering and what I call a good way And you have this Nimble Mind in you guys obviously spend a Lotta time on sport so I thought I'd try to although you don't you start a conversation about sports and it will go in a bunch of fun direction but if feels like right now. I'm very curious what you're thinking. First of all has your life changed that much. My life has changed totally. I mean it's it's it's strange. I worked at home now for all these years. Whatever you think it would be the same and I suppose my wife and I are probably as well position to deal with like a kind of shelter scenario. Is anyone but you know. My kids are six and four so now. They're home all day and that's well that's you know. My my son is a tough age. It's at minor thirteen and six sixteen so it's a different than you. You know. I'm not complaining all but I will say this. At Age wise it might be about his toughest. It could be because my six year old is a kindergarten. So we're doing that kind of schooling Which is of course difficult and and then the four year old. She needs a lot of sort of attention. She can't really do things just by yourself for long stretches of time so basically what I do now is I get up at about five thirty or six. I go out to my writing cabinet. Try to work as much as I can. Till ten thirty or eleven. My wife handles the kids then then I come back inside. She gets time to herself I've watched the kids kind of in the afternoon and then pretty soon it's five o'clock in making dinner and then we're watching. Tv than the days over so like all these people like yours like. Oh I have watching the entire twilight zone series or whatever. I'm not doing anything like that like I have. I have barely watched anything on television. I've had no time to read anything that was related to what I was working on a book wise. I see maybe one or two movies I I I. I am much busier now. Then I am in normal. What's if that makes any sense it does? I'm guessing bedtime a single most important time of the day for you and your wife like you can't wait until they get put to bed. We'll Sherman say eight thirty nine. I got it like I Kinda WanNa read the news for an hour so now it's nine thirty and if I'm getting up at five thirty or six mechanised stay up that late and I'm tired of so yeah of course what you're saying is true. It's just a very strange experience. I mean it's like we have all the modern technology and yet in many ways life is like the late nineteenth century. Well because it's like our family is our whole world. It I go out. I leave to get food once a week. That's it it's your described other than doing. I say my day is filled with either being on MSNBC or doing a conference call about doing an hour of programming on MSNBC And then once a week I go to the GROCERY STORE. But it's funny you bring that up about a there's part of me that like wonders. How are we going to think about this with our own families in twenty years when we come back and look back on it as this boy remember or that was something else than you remember when dad had to do this or mom was doing this and is remembered with this we got through it or is it much of it will depend our memory of it much of it will depend on how we get through if it will it? Become this sort of sense of what we all. Did this tour together. Well I do. Suspect in enemy This is assuming that Things don't get exponentially worse which is possible. I just don't think that will happen. But who knows but let say as a mystically optimistic about. I do suspect in ten or twelve years. One of the most common kind of essays. You're GONNA see in various media. Publications are people who have kids now in their late teens early twenties and they're going to express this kind of constructiveness. Stahl Japan this period when their kids were small and they were still really close and they had this sort of relationship which frankly rarely happens. family anymore. I mean the idea of of like a a the entire family being this intertwined this much of the time I mean. It's definitely deepening. My relationship with my kids because already read the end and it is also making me realize that maybe for the first time in my life. I'm actually bearing because it's not like it's not like a ninety minutes in the morning two hours at night and the weekends it all the time and and you know it's a it's it's incredibly hard you know. I think somebody made this joke. I think is a very true? The like you'll there was the initial idea that like there's going to be this baby-boom in nine months which is going to be all these kids coming up and that might be true but it's only going to be people having their first kid beg you. I would say that it's like it's nobody that already has ended. Misano way I type. That same conversation was buddied. Now I've just confessed publicly totally agree. Three rates are GONNA go up the birth rate for people that aren't married. You know basically people that decided to cohabitate for the pandemic and then all of a sudden here they are right and then maybe we'll get married so it'll be a lot of that is up divorce rates and the second child birth rates will go down. I that seems very like all things seem very likely in the in. The theme of sort of unintended consequences today happens to be the fit. Where we're doing this interview on the Fiftieth Anniversary Birthday. And if you asked Environmental activists six months ago about what their plans were. For the Fiftieth Anniversary Hampshire. There was like a million plants. I'm sure there was unearthed. Three or in another time loop. This is a huge day of climate activism and yet the pandemic has painted a picture of of how humankind impacts the environment. Like no other picture we could have ever had painted true. So are you said like what is it. I don't know is there a questionnaire I'm asking do? Does this end the debate on climate? Change about me about humankind's impact on it and then move. Listen to a different part of this debate. Like it's something that. I've wondered watching this that will now. It's nobody can deny we don't have an impact on this. I mean I nobody can could. People denied the percentage of carbon dioxide. That was in the air before they. It's like they still did you of what what I think that I keep coming inside like the practical day-to-day things looking at all the charts. And seeing what's happening I was thinking about okay say Would y two K was happening. Okay Pad okay. So that's the catastrophe that never occurred. Basically we had all this sort of attention around it and then you the impact was real small and the question became like well was the things that we did to fix this. The reason that didn't happen was never going to happen regardless but I was thinking about was that seems to me one of the earlier signs of how the interconnection of the world has the kind of paradoxical effect of making it much more fragile and I just put climate change in this. You can put the pandemic in this. You can put any sort of technological issue in this. It does seem to me that The sort of advances that we're making as a society which are for the most part positive people's lives amplifying the risk of this sort of kind of domino affecting collapse. I mean although I never read the you're actually making me. Think if you look. You're you're right compared to the compared the now the one thousand nine hundred and that pandemic sure we weren't as globally interconnected so you didn't have the entire economy shutting down at the same time it just. It's so it just so I mean if somebody had told me three months ago that this pandemic was going to happen. I'd be like well. I guess it was always possible right and then they said okay. Also every country's GonNa shut down. I would have been like that won't happen though people won't be able to do that so I've been. I have been surprised that says works as well as done. I live in Portland here. People really take it seriously. Man I don't I I. I realized that everything about the Pacific northwest is kind of skewed from the rest of the country and a lot of ways. Ideologically like people really take it seriously here. In a way that I would have thought was impossible. I didn't think that would happen. So you know I. It's it's a now now moving into this new phase where game opening up the country. It seems like a terrible idea. But you know what it's like. There is no good idea. Like I don't know what's the alternative? The only alternative idea I've heard is figuring out how to make up people's incomes for six months. Will they actually altered it? But there's only you know how much money do you keep? Printing would also be people's understanding of this seems even though all the all anyone's doing is reading about this it seems as though some of the perception is the become ill like the Jews. This idea I think I see. Some people expressing like we need to to to not opened up the country. We just need to wait this out as they've convinced themselves. If enough time passes somehow the buyers will pass and enlists. There's this vaccine that does not seem plausible. It's like everyone's still gonNa have to probably be exposed to this. You know what we're doing this to for that the infrastructure of the of the medical industry that makes sense. We gotta do that but like I don't. I am not sure what the what the solution to this. Besides just making me experience happened either really quickly a moderate amount of time or over very long or missing something. Obviously I know I. I'm with you I don't understand I don't I don't this is where I think the lack of leadership that we're getting the just. Nobody's being honest about this right. So the president continues to try to sort of. Oh it's going to pass it's going to pass and I actually think this honestly and I've thought about this.
"chuck" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press
"I do think it will be a benefit side a great deal that the focus is elsewhere right now even if there is the second concern about him kind of receding too far into the background about the one thing he has to generate attention as the veepstakes and I guess the question is. How much do you use that to generate interest in your candidacy for the next three months? And in. How important is it to get it out of the way so you can have a second fundraiser. Dan? I don't know about the timing Chuck Because if you do it too early then you've lost some of the impact at a moment when you may need more. I mean which is to say around the convention There is one well. There will be some something approaching a sharp engine so you use that moment you you amplify that moment with the roll out of Vice President Now the question is. How do you manage that process in between the time how do you? How do you create interest in it without you know? Patio looking absurd. In the way you're doing it and I don't know that they've figured that out yet. I mean it is. It is early but because the the nomination has ended early we immediately turn our attention to that but in in the in the normal timing The real you know the real speculation about the vice presidency ramps up closer to the convention and I think that that would be a more sensible way for them to do it right that the one upside. I've heard Libya's that literally have a second marriage on having a second principle in all of that and also there's really only three or four candidates that are gonNA that he's choosing among so like how long drag that out right. Yeah I don't know I think a little bit ridiculous if he continues to drag it out when we know that he said it's shooting changes to hamble people on the other hand. I do think that it might look a little sound in my to correct you kind of agenda that my cheeks onto the drama out of it when he could you sat at a later date when he might really need the tension and really need the fundraising crush. Dan One political payroll. I was curious of. It's a theory I have is that I don't think by can pick any governors because I don't think governor can be seen as abandoning ship right now. That's a really interesting thought. Chuck I I. There's been so much. Focus on Governor Whitman in Michigan. As a you know a potential fight beat her or Kwami go through any of the governors real I I just I. I think that's I think it's very difficult. I always thought it was based on absolutely nothing that the that the three leading candidates are the are the Warren Harris and culture. I mean the three panel Iran either. I'm that's where I'm at now too because I feel like you have to have somebody who's people think pretty president today right and these are these are people who who who've been through a national campaign. They have their own operations. They brought up. You brought the abetting issues. The three of them have gotten some of the stupid betting out of the way. Get done bets it up. Yeah Yeah but I think I think it is very tough rope for governor to be ganged out of the responsibilities of getting their state. Back to some sense normal right in this moment. Give you final word on this Do you think that the Governor May? Do you think that you brought up the bedding issue? You think that almost puts it with the three women candidates that ran well. He did say he was going to pick a woman as his as by presidents. So I think that those seem like the most obvious choices. I agree with you that it would be very difficult for any governor to appear as if they are abandoning ship. Right now I think it would also reflect very poorly on by if a if he were to pick a governor who had to Lebed in the middle of all this so I. That's probably correct. But we've seen things that are unexpected happened before. I wouldn't rule anything out in the trump era. All right I'm going to wrap up with just a simple Simple requests in both of you. Give me the weirdest thing. You're benching right now that you're you're willing to share publicly willing to look everybody's got bit binging. They're not willing to share. I get that you know we all have our reality shows or your things that you hope that you don't want to tell people about i. I have watched more of Chop than I probably normally are you a shop guide. We shop every night man. We that's the group it's one of our group. Although my daughter was so she goes to same thing every time and I saw your shows anyway. Nice to know that fellow chopper. We shop a lot about. You might be about things my boyfriend. Anything binging I love Lucy Lately. Owed really it really holds up. I guess she amazing. Isn't it sorry? She's the on the Mount Rushmore of comedy and doesn't get that I think Athletic I mean I grew up with. I Love Lucy reruns. I haven't watched the adult. And they really really hold us. There's so much better than so much scripted comedy today. She was She's she. She was a legend for a reason. Sure was sure I still want to figure out how they slept in separate beds and had a kid. David figure that out of Libya. No one's ever told me about that. But if you got any clarity that was always separate beds. Yeah combined intervention divine comedy intervention. Yes we'll see. We got him on that note. Olivia Newseum New York magazine Damp walls of the Washington Post you terrific little pandemic punchy. And that's why pandemic Punchy podcast.
"chuck" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press
"Hello from outside of Washington but inside the beltway. I'm Chuck Todd. And this is the chuck. Todd cast Congress's passing another gigantic relief. Package almost half a trillion dollars to replenish conference for small businesses and a handful of states are preparing to loosen stay at home restriction while the president is talking about immigration and one topic that is on everyone's mind sometimes except the president is testing. It looks like the curb on infections has slowed down. A bit curve has flattened but it is not going downward yet. One thing is definitely changed. How Washington views? Its role in the crisis. Talk about all this and more. We have political reporter for the Washington. Post the chief himself. Dan Balls in Washington correspondent for New York magazine. Olivia newsy late in the shelby joined by bestselling author SAS Chuck Cluster Man. He's one of my favorite big thinkers of of my generation. And we're GonNa talk about what this whole episode may mean for America at large going forward or we talk about what it's like being cooped up in Portland Oregon which is where I think he is. So with that before I get into the nitty gritty of what I want to talk about Libya how you hold up. What's the what's warranty like for you? You know it's just strange to not be on the campaign trail on. I'm sure Dan can relate to. It was nonstop for so long and I really hadn't been home for more than a couple of days at a time for the year last year. And so it's just kind of bizarre to to be in. Washington but do not really be able to go out and do typical Washington reporter activities strange and it's kind of disorienting. But obviously we're much like you're here Ben People around the country. Dan What's What's one what what's one thing? You won't miss what's one thing. You haven't missed commuting from my home to the office as simple as that. Yeah you've ever when a gas station looks like my life and I were discussing the other day. I mean it's just it's something like that but it's you know it's the strangest election year I've ever gone through and I'm sure the same for you. Chuck just you know as as Livia said we're used to being out in Houston being events in were used to talking to people and we're used to being in and out of different states and all that is just now in suspension and. I don't know whether we'll get back to that. You know in October or not. I think it's a open question as to whether we're going to be able to cover this campaign by then in the way we've been used to do you think anything pre pandemic matters. Olivia and what I mean by that. Is this in that like will? It just seems small or indifferent. And I'm sure that look I'm being a little bit over that you get my drift. But for the most part is this line of demarcation that life they'll be pre pandemic life in post pandemic life in America but in terms of the campaign. The general election obviously getting start in the middle of all this so anything that we were talking about four terms as the shoes. I think people have largely forgotten about for the time being I. We're not GonNa Talk About Socialism. Yesterday just in terms of its kind of on twitter against everyone's better judgment looking people and just say about some of the culture wars us and. I'm just thinking how completely irrelevant. This seems at this moment and of course I'm sure once life goes back you would ever. The new normal is When states begin to reopen some of those debates kick back up. But you know Joe Biden is largely in its base in Delaware beaming through to two different TV stations. Every once in a while. But it's a really strange way to to begin a general election. I don't have the the same experience that both of you do. I've I've only covered the twenty sixteen election before this. I really don't know what normal is but I tell you. This actually has come through on my staff. Dan and appears curious. You Know Dan you and I grew up at grew up in saw America. Deuce amazing things whether its land on the moon in bent the space shuttle right use that back and forth. We cured eight. Olivia it as some of my staff have explained to me. Your generation hasn't seen America. Do Minute many great things at all. You've seen a lot more disastrous leadership mistakes by this country. Then you've had successes and I am curious how that will play itself out in post pandemic amendment. Yeah I don't know I mean look. A lot of great means have been created in my lifetime. There's a lot of innovations on the Internet. But my life has been defined by life that well we didn't land on the moon but in a cool me defined by eleven and by various Moore's L. East and the silver say. They had the great recession that the security and. I think at now this you know. The trump era obviously seems more insane than the event but I don't know I. I think it was a Gal. She he piece about. How millennials kind of experiencing an early midlife crisis because of the quarantine and I thought that was an interesting way to think about it. That everything is ground to a halt and he Has created this kind of broad existential crisis for younger people It prematurely and I wonder what effect that will have In terms of engagement. Politically going forward Vegas. We won't know until you get there. You Know Dan. I've I've been wondering I think just we have seen America dig out ditches before so we're going to be inclined to assume an optimistic perspective. We'll get through this. Maybe it'll take a year. Maybe two maybe four. I understand if somebody under forty doesn't see it that one. Well I I totally get that I mean I think for the generation of people under forty. This is just a huge terrible blow on top of everything else. It was just talking about with you. I mean they have struggled I mean one of the reasons that Bernie Sanders consistently won voters under forty and men generally under forty five. But I think particularly was under forty is that the life that they were promised based on you know all kinds of political promises American dream images did not come to pass People went to college. They got college degrees. They couldn't get the kinds of jobs they wanted. They had debt They struggle to buy a house. They struggle to make sure they have adequate healthcare. I mean in other words all of the things that that go to making a career in a life have been difficult and now we have this on top of that and I think you're right. I mean we talk about. We'll get through this and I think that's an easy thing for politicians to say and probably a necessary thing to say but But getting through this is GonNa take a long time. I think that we're just in a situation As we you know as you look at all of the kind of ripple effects and all of the collateral damage This is a terrible crisis. And the idea that there's going to be a quick bounceback is probably misguided perhaps just plain folly in Olympia. You're talking about the presidential campaign in the fall. We already know what the next presidential term is going to be defined by. We just don't know who's GonNa do it. You know who's going to be sitting in the chair and which party is going to control the legislature but essentially we dealt with the next four years ago to be about. It's just about who controls the terms of the debate. Yea I mean in that sense it removes I guess. Some of the uncertainty But I don't think that that means that we know how it will play out. I think if at any point over less a handful of years I.
"chuck" Discussed on The Oath with Chuck Rosenberg
"Hi everyone this is Chuck Rosenberg most important. I I hope this message finds you and your family and friends well. This pandemic as you know is hit communities big and small throughout the United States and around the world the number of people who have died or who are suffering from this awful disease is absolutely heartbreaking but together. I think we're making a difference. Thank you so much for heating the advice. Public Health officials listen to the doctors. Listen to the scientists listened to the epidemiologists following their guidance helps to slow the spread of this dangerous virus and keep everybody safe. We have a collective responsibility to each other. You know that and the duty to try to ease the burden on healthcare workers and on first responders. Many of you have written to ask whether the oath is returning. Will there be a third season. Yes absolutely we are coming back in fact. We were working on a terrific third season. When the physical distancing protocols kicked in so we have slowed production for instance no face to face interviews for now but we have not stopped our work. We finished the few third season interviews. And I think they're wonderful. We have more to complete of course when we begin to publish these interviews again. Hopefully in early June. I think you're going to truly enjoy our guests. We have a great lineup. For our third season those guests include Leon. Panetta the former Secretary of defense and director of the CIA and Kathy Sullivan. A former astronaut. And the first. Us woman to walk in space the Vet Murphy. The former surgeon general of the United States and many many more we have additional great guests lined up and some wonderful surprises. So I hope you'll be patient with us. We are coming back. I also want to say thanks to all of you. During the last two seasons I have received thousands of emails from you and I have read reviews and comments on the various platforms. That you use to listen to the oath. You told me that this podcast has reinforced a rekindled in you a sense of faith and trust our government and in the men and women who worked so diligently to protect and serve this wonderful nation. That is incredibly heartening. You've also sent.
"chuck" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press
"By now but yeah speculate. Open air here but What what what. Part of is one thing. I always like to try to explain to people. Is that Donald? Trump doesn't hate the media. Loves the media. Yes it's only important for him to date for you to think he hates the media Go more explain you. Just Amen be so how adult you explain it to people when they try to. Clayton's relationships we APP with them. There's nothing faker than his attacks on on fake news. He says these horrible things and he does have a temper is thin skinned so sometimes when he lashes out he really does feel that way but there is nobody. Your I've ever covered. Who Wore is more infatuated with the media and obsessed with the media who consumes as much media as he does who knows the reporters in that room. He knows what we have written in what we have done Will he knows our news reports he he. He consumes the stuff any courts. The people that writers look at his relationship with somebody like Maggie. Haberman attacks viciously. But you don't. He loves Maggie Haberman. He gives his giving her. I mean he's he's had a relationship with her. He knows her he reads her. He gives her information in the Nemec viciously attacks her and he knows that the people you know like the attacks he knows that he gets a rise. Outta people. It's it's it's part of the playlist at a trump rally. The attack on the press is one of the classics. I asked to play at every time but he calls us he calls. I saw. He's incredibly accessible. I thought it You know you fall. He's probably done this to you But he's he he's done this in my presence at least a half dozen times where he will marvel at the number of times that he is on the front page of the New York Times he will say hill president. Are You surprised? And yet he says the same way every time he says you know back when I was in you know before I add this was doing this. I'd be lucky there'd be one story about on the front page that'd be like wow look one story now. It could be four stories in a single day on the front page New York Times and I remember. There was a press conference at at the meeting in in two thousand eighteen where he said he predicted that the New York Times endorsing any pointed you know pointed to be Peter and United ABC and NBC. Cbs to why we all want him right. Guys WILL ALL BE OUT OF BUSINESS? Nobody'll watch anymore Is Right. More people are watching. There's no question more than Yorktown. No I mean right. Now do the pandemic. We had noticed a plateauing. Yes I'm in the last six months. Where trump himself? I mean his just not you know he doesn't. It hasn't mattered whether we've had them or others have had them. We have noticed he doesn't. He didn't provide the bump he wants us to right. And it was one of those things that we looked at each other Is this something to keep an eye out. I mean is this a canary him? A coal mine. If people are tired of watching him is that people are tired of him leading right. You know what I mean. Is that step one in that direction. I don't know of course the plateau happened about the time when the dominant story was the impeachment proceedings Which you know clearly interested. Isn't it amazing? How irrelevant impeachment is going to be history books now? Oh my God so so talking about ending the Oh my God you had to end with impeachment and you will the so. I was really worried because I was finishing up. Just as impeachment was getting underway. And I actually had. And you'll see in the epilogue. There's this thing where I get summoned into the Oval Office. That's right around and it was like in ended up being a perfect a perfect place to end but I was really worried as as he's impeached. And you go into the Senate trial I was in print I mean I was. They were in production. At that point. I couldn't change a damn thing and I am. I precious little about any of that stuff in my book. It's just my applaud. Thank God nobody wants to read about that right now and instead you have this story you know about you know kind of it's a personal story about what it's been like to cover this guy. I've tried to convey that. And the way he operates his management style and all that is so much more relevant than if I was lost in the weeds of Alinsky. Search while you're covering the story of a lifetime right now and you do have that front row seat numb you. You wear a lot of hats I have to say you always conduct some the more interesting I I love Martha Georgia's well but I was well aware of how much news interviews makers Carl so Congrats on this. I hope you can get a decent run out of this. Obviously this is going to be the most awkward book tour. I guess is you. Don't you don't travel right. And you don't get to do these. Qna's and that's a bummer. 'cause I always. I took a lot away from talking to the public. You just want you're GONNA and I do hope you get some some of this later down the road when we opened the we we are going to do a virtual events with politics and prose Oh Yeah Oh that's tomorrow night at eight o'clock it's on their website but since Wednesday this was Wednesday guy's GonNa work this Thursday today. It'll be Thursday and if you're listening on Friday which yesterday but chuck it's Great. It's great to talk to you thank you rubbing around. I feel I feel like you and I kind of grew up together with all. We didn't just gotTa say we're like young pups in the nineties working at crazy organ. Small.
"chuck" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press
"From Washington Jonathan Karl. This is the coral cash after April fools. There you go But later this I will be talking to the Guy. You just heard laugh. There might cross network colleague Chief White House correspondent. Abc News. Mr Jonathan Karl John. Also the president of the White House. Correspondents Association author of a New Book Front wrote the trump show. And it's father so he's got a lot going on and late in the show and take a few more of your primary questions. So keep sending those in as we have Bernie Sanders now. Being the latest person to say maybe postponed Wisconsin Primer and once again. We are recording from a social distance. So we apologize for any audio glitches. It is a brave new world for us all but I the unflappable unstoppable giancarl welcome to the todd cast Mr Carl. Hey it's great to be with you. Chuck I wish I wish we were in person but But it's good to be with you. Virtually we'll We'll let a few secrets Bag We actually both live in northern. Virginia we're probably accidentally shot at the same You know grocery store every now and in the neighborhood so I should ask I have had this strange. You know I have not actually been in Washington. Dc in two weeks. It is the strangest feeling since I did my last meet the press in the studio you are going in. Are you going in every couple of days on the rotation of the White House? How are you guys handling your social distance? Worked from home all of that business over there. I'm going in more frequently than my family likes. I've had the full house of got my mind. My daughter's wants to college ones just out of college my wife. Nobody likes it Especially when I go to what they see is the most dangerous place around. Which is the White House young so But I mean like you know not every day but pretty close I try to. I try to be as little as I possibly can. And it's very strange the ABC bureaus. I'm sure if you crossed over you went over to be C- It's empty basically. It's basically nobody there. The White House is a lot emptier than it. Usually is obviously House Goyal we're all going to worry about global. I mean you know what if we don't if there wasn't a White House press room to hang out in what would that guy do for a living. Well that's a great question goal the the legendary coil. Chuck you can appreciate this. You know how How that real estate is now eagerly sought after that real estate is we've had to really control over there. Yeah -CCOMPLISH that because this is such a challenge. I mean you are you. Are you know it's so funny? Big President White House Correspondence Association. That's why something like. What did you do wrong? John's it is hell. Yeah it is sort of a weird thing. You're like I it it it. It's a lot of responsibility and you could become a punching bag But this year I have to say I say this bullshit or anything blown smoke. I'm thankful that you sitting in that post this year at a time when the position is actually consequential. I mean I don't mean this with any disrespect to the position in the past but it has seemed more consequential issue because you've had to make some tough decisions. You had to participate some tough decisions. How are you policing this? Well it's really. It's really tough because first of all just just coming what to do we we face a situation. You know how crowded that place is on any given day but especially if there's a briefing especially by God resident of the United States is going to come. Yes new kitch- armpit to armpit usually gone so so we saw this. We had to act really quickly to say we are going to limit who can come in. That's the most political thing you can imagine first of all White House correspondence we all like. You know we fight for more access more people all this stuff and now we had to say we're going to go at the first step was to every other seat and And in in it's hard up away and that wasn't far enough away now you have two people per row. Fourteen people in a place usually seats forty nine and then has like another fifty or more standing in a trying to squeeze their way in so we said no more standing in the size no more standing in the back to people. Perot and everybody takes turns and rotated every has to plan is Chuck Chuck For the most part our colleagues have been responsible rabbit about. I know that we have I know that. How many cease my friends we NBC NEWS CNBC Missing Embassy? We could claim seven thousand seats and quite plus each have our own seat and I were operating as one entity rotating between one seat. I believe and I guess. How did you divide it up? Basically the ones that pay full boat for the pool was get a get a chair every day. And then those that don't rotate. We're actually down. Now were NBC. Abc CNN. We we all don't have a seat every day. We have three seats divided among the defy networks. So created a rotation I. Gotcha we've created a rotation and then we we have a number of seats that are set aside for print outlets each one of those seats. Have a separate rotation we have a rotation for what's called the Independent Television Zero PBS and away. An interesting you know. Independent Television brought. Yeah yeah so it's the light exactly but it's you know it's so it's it's a lot of politics involved but like for the most part people have shared and played along. The most important move was played early on actually by the networks and the network bureau chief switch agreed and you can imagine how big a thing this is to say that the everything at the White House in terms of video cameras would now be pool coverage which is really like I mean. That's like Kylie that's territorial stafa now the networks are sharing everything that comes under. Mitchell still complains that we pool anyway. Yeah she would tell me she goes. You never pulled a single event. Yeah back in the eighties and it really. That pooling really didn't start until I guess early nineties and now even stakeouts. Now everything's yeah well look it. It's it's it's these times. So let's start with your your one of these. You're of the generation of reporters of winus correspondence tellers correspondence. That got their start in print and it is. Now what's interesting it used to be? We were anomaly that our industry and now it's the norm. Would you know and yet there is no more print journalism for people to grow out of as much anymore. You think we're going to be sort of the last of the people that went that played in every single sandbox before they got to television. I mean really. The is so different now is is you have a you know the proliferation of online outlets and the ability for somebody through twitter to basically become a phenomenon even without working for a major outlet. You know in a and breaking through I mean the idea of like. Take a guy like my good friend. Zeke Miller of the is that it was going to be the president of the White House. Correspondents Association after me you know. He was like a SORTA covering the White House right out of college basically because he had made a name for himself. I on twitter business insider. All these like buzzfeed is with the associated. Press is the establishment. Put A. Brian stelter beverly start? I think being a blogger while Italian right. Now that yeah. Yeah no it's a it's a whole different world but You know I remember Chuck. You'll appreciate your you know you were great great. You are a great print journalists as well and you're you're an author you've you've You know what? It's like to not be in television when I first got hired by CNN. I told my mom takes great pride and everything and she said Okay but you have to keep writing is liable How much harder was this? I belong. I've been in television the harder it is for me to write longer yet. Well it is a totally different set of tools that you use and I have to tell you. I loved the process of doing this book and I got to the point. It got to the point. Mariah was lake. I didn't want to deal with my day job. Cutting take a block of time off. I took little bits here and there and I was cutted closer and closer to like okay all worry about TV script Because the idea of being able to dive in more in depth and by the way the great thing is in is to go back to sources that you deal with the crush of the news after the fact and you learn so much more with this with this crowd the number of people that are willing to talk to you. specially when it's after the fact or after they've been fired fired. I was just GonNa say I mean I have filled in the blanks and so many stories from twenty seventeen. Now right I mean we all have the the store if now that is also a challenge in the in the In the trump era writing trump book. it is because everything moves so fast in the trump era What what was your. I actually think your premise of your book was smart in it. It avoids that Trat. Look you're always GonNa have that trap when you write a book right. You have to stop a moment in time. You obviously wrote before the pandemic right. You know there's always a moment in time to stop but with trump it is. It is more difficult than usual than any other subject. I was frozen in fear a couple of times like a severe cases of writer's block was how the Hell Am. I GONNA end this. Where where do I draw the line? Where do you know what it's like because you wrote about Obama? I run about. Obama does not basically I right after the two thousand fourteen terms. Yep saying and I decided to make that the ending and it was not i. You know it's hard you have to pick an ending. Which by the way gave you a actually actually gave you a probably a better ending than you than you realize. It turns it because you know if you do the ending it actually turned out to really be the that should of that presidency in a weird way. Yeah shellacking part to And you know but but So for me. That was a big challenge. We can come back to to how did that. But but the other thing is you know how do you write about something somebody that is so transparent and has been written about so much in any of the stories at least at a level are are really well known and and there were there were some points rows like? Oh Man. I'm going to go back over. And talk about the frigate this or that again. What I decided to do was to only write about the things where I had something unique to say either new reporting or or personal experience and personal association with so. It's not a comprehensive takedown of of all things trump since he became president and take down. I don't think it's is. It meant to be a takedown. No it's not I I didn't. Yeah what do you mean what I mean is is is a comprehensive. Look at a of everything him. It is so by about a third of the book covers before as President and that includes my experiences with him which were wild and in the measure right. You talked about your first meeting by the way it really made me laugh. 'cause you talked about so the first time..
"chuck" Discussed on Asian America: The Ken Fong Podcast
"Welcome to episode number two hundred thirty one my guests. This episode is Josh Chuck and as you will hear when you listen to the interview Even though Josh is quite a bit younger than I am We have been discovering that we should have been friends a long time ago. Josh is the CO Director of a documentary film. That came out last year called Chinatown rising and just had the amazing opportunity to co direct. This film with his father who's now in his eighties. Reverend Harry Chuck who shot this footage. Six sixteen millimeter camera Way Back in the late sixties early seventies right when a lot of stuff was happening in San Francisco Chinatown and in the surrounding areas. It was kind of the time when Asian Americans Chinese Americans were learning to be activists and It's just a fascinating story about how. This footage has a surfaced after decades of being a box in the garage and How it's come together into this amazing movie and I just think that this is a piece of history where Because of this footage now being put into this movie so many people have an opportunity to if you will have a front row seat on so much of what was happening at A. Very turbulent time in our history so Really want to commend. You listen to this interview. And even more importantly get out there and Go to a screening of this movie This Saturday February twenty ninth at ten fifteen. Am in the morning Josh and his dad will be at the Vista Theatre in Los Angeles California to screen this movie later on that evening. Josh himself not his dad is going to be in Orange County in Santa Ana at the Free Cinema at seven o'clock and so if coming to L. A. is too far. I hope you'll make plans to get down there in the evening in Santa Ana and check this out and if you're up in the Pacific northwest especially if you're in Seattle You can check it out on Friday. Excuse me Saturday. March seventh at eleven o'clock at the SIEFF CINEMAS S. I F. F. cifs cinema uptown there in Seattle Washington and then The only other screening that I see on their website is Friday march thirteenth. At six o'clock at the Disorient Asian American Film Festival of Oregon on opening night up an Eugene. So if you'd like to get tickets to any of these screenings go to Chinatown rising dot com slash screenings and You'll get right there. And they'll be a link for you to click on and I hope you'll check it out. I'm really actually looking forward to going to the Saturday morning. One and getting a chance to meet Josh's Dad Reverend Harry. Check himself not just because he's a retired minister like myself but because He was right. They're doing so much Long after he put down his movie camera to fight for Social Justice in San Francisco. Chinatown one of the things that I am coming to grips with more and more these days is to kind of put to rest put to death this idealized sense of myself and just kind of how. I I've treated different parts of my life. I give you some quick examples way back in two thousand and five my wife and I remodeled and expanded our house which was built originally nineteen fifty one and the whole idea was to turn this kind of tired little rancher house into what we were imagining would be come. A contemporary Japanese retreat in working with our architect he knows song he also is a furniture designer so when it came time to thinking about this great room idea after you walk in the front door. We're thinking Oh you know it'd be great to have small group meetings here. And so he designed these three sectionals that are semi curved that would form somewhat of a circle in the space around our fireplace. Okay now that was fifteen years ago. We've probably had less than five gatherings of people in fifteen years even though we belong to a small group of in this space and it is clearly one of the most underutilized spaces in our remodeled house literally just kind of walked past it and the the sofas themselves if you can imagine a circle like there's a lot of empty space in the middle and then it's the seating areas on the periphery It takes up quite a bit of room says you if you've been to our house soon as you walk in you have to kind of walk between this bar high table where. I record many live podcast interviews and the First Section of Curved Sofa so earlier this year my wife and I were talking and we said you know what it. We've had enough time. We've given enough time to realize that we're just not those people like as much as we would like to imagine that we love having people over and on on a regular basis of it were a. Were just not those people apparently in actuality and number two the few times we have done it. The circle is so why the diameter that it doesn't feel intimate at all like people are just too far apart so we went down to our local Scandinavian design furniture store. And we're looking for something kind of mid century modern. That was much more scalable and I bought this software off the Internet to actually lay it all out. You know according to the square footage of the space in the actual dimensions of the proposed furniture. And so we've ordered a SOFA and To occasional chairs in contrasting colors that will get delivered probably in May so we have a ways to go will donate this fifteen year old furniture that We'll be replacing but it just opens up the space so much more Just just from walking from the front door into the rest of the house. You won't you. You'll feel like more like we originally were imagining that. This is a great room. It's not this room. That's dominated by this Semi Circular Sofa. So that's just one example where we finally we walk by this every day. We finally said okay. This is an interesting idea. But it's really not based on who we are and how we live so let's make better use of this space. So that's literally physically coming to to our house in a couple months something else. That recently happened We've been dreaming about going to Alaska for a long time and as my wife likes to say I WANNA see for fan's feathers and so we went down to the triple A. And Talk to the free travel agent there and they really You know listen to US and said Okay. You know we can do this. Land in Cruise Package fifteen days the last seven or on Princess cruise ship. It's beautiful Blah. Here's the prices go home and think about it and we sat on it for a couple of days and we know that a lot of people who grew up to Alaska. This is what they do they do in Alaska cruise and they have limited time on land but has more we thought about it. My wife says you know. Are we really crews people? I mean we've been on a Disney cruise out of Orlando and that was okay when our daughter was little but I mean why are we paying for something where we're really not looking forward to that and we had to kind of remind ourselves why? Why have we wanted to go to Alaska? All these years is to see for others and Finns Right. And so it's like well even with this land package that the travel agent was laid out for us. We would not be able to get to brooks falls on where it's the iconic time in the summer where the bears are standing in the falls and the salmon are fighting their way up the false and the and the bears are grabbed him. You know So finally we just call the travel agent. Said you know what we're GonNa do something else and I was able to look on the Internet and find a local Alaskan company noon this for years and they basically said No. Here's some of our packages but hey talk to us. If you don't see anything in our packages that you're GONNA do. We'll just custom do something and so talk to them and Wallah you know six seven days instead of fifteen less money but exactly what we want to do but we were this close. We're we were this close to actually going beyond what what we were thinking just because it kind of fit what most people do. So that was just the latest Experience of doing that now now when they take a giant step back I think about just myself you know and I hope you're thinking about yourself to you know beyond furnishings and how we utilize space in our house or or you know what we choose to spend our money on when we go on vacation. It's kind of more basic than that. I think it's it's really the question of. How long do we still try to live? This idealized self. That either people have told us is expected of us or we imagine is what we should be expecting of ourselves but some of those parts really don't fit us. I know for the longest time in my working career you talked about kind of predefined roles are ready. You know pastor especially in Asian American setting. There's just like this is how you should preach. This is how you should dress. This is how you should talk. This is what you shouldn't do this. And and maybe most of the people who go into that kind of job they they do that with a they want to or not but they they conform right and I think one of the things that I started to realize was Some of these things just don't fit me like for example. I I remember a early on when I started doing ministry as a job. A one of the kids in the youth group. This is at a different church up. North said a you know I think you dress too. Nice to be a pastor. I'm like what it's like. Yeah you know I mean like you're too fashionable and now I'll tell you some of my previous jobs be before went away to school a I work in a very exclusive clothing Boutique where we served complimentary white wine and we had bumper pool and that kind of stuff and even before that I mean it does matter to me how I just. I'm not a fashion plate. I don't need to wear the latest thing. I don't need to have designer names hanging over me but It does matter to me how I put myself together and how I present myself but that was kind of when I first confrontations when someone says well you know Passive Change Churches that I've grown up with You know none of them seem to have decent clothes and so I'm having a problem here. Because you're my youth pastor and you know you're suits too nice or your your tie coordinates too well with your outfit you know and and and so. I just decided. Well thanks for sharing but you know what? That's just not me so if I only have one nice tie instead of five really ugly cheap one then. I'm I'm going to have that one. Nice tie you know and then you go on later and it goes way beyond close. You know how I present myself how I talked. E even doing this podcast in a lot of ways Stepping out like this was not what most pastors are doing right and and especially Just the comfort a half of making connections all over the place especially with people who don't share my faith and and it's just like what are you doing. It's like I'm just being me. I will tell you this. They're just so many voices in your head out there and some of them are very real. That are basically expressing expectations. And I don't know that we can ever live in a world that doesn't have those voices. is devoid of expectations. I will say this Don't do it to yourself. I think that's the big lesson it's like It's one thing when other people expect and you don't meet them but when you put these kind of idealize expectations on yourself and it actually affects your living space and how you comport yourself in private in public because you're trying to fit some kind of role instead of really embracing who you really are and who you aren't you know it's it's sad so. I I just hope. This isn't encouragement to to those of you out there who struggle with this various levels. Be The unique person that you are because if you're not that person if you're just trying to play a role if you're just trying to meet. People's spoken and unspoken expectations. They'll never get to know who you really are. You know and my attitude is if what I present in this non idealized very but more authentic self if it's not everybody's Cup of tea and they pass on me. They reject me well okay. But they're rejecting the ROMI. They're not rejecting some version of me that I'm hoping they'll like and the upside of it is By trying to be more authentic self. I'm finding that there are people who actually really dig. That and those have.
"chuck" Discussed on The Oath with Chuck Rosenberg
"Declare war Because they think in part they realized that it was the executive who had the ability to make war And that that and I think more properly coincided with this commander in chief title that the framers gave the president but this is an ongoing debate. And like I said earlier it's GonNa go on long after Donald Trump Is Out of office there. There's another element to all this too. We talk about here As well and that is how the public is processing all of this right now. Their reaction to everything There was a survey last year. Actually it's two years ago now. I forgot that it's now twenty. Twenty two thousand eighteen survey From Georgetown University versity that looked at Americans in their trust in institutions and it actually found there was pretty strong trust in a private company in Amazon But there was very little trust when it came to the executive branch came to the presidency When it came to Congress for that matter probably should acknowledge also very little trust trust when it came to the media? I I wonder listening to you. Describe the oath of office that you took how Salam the occasion felt to you how meaningful it felt to you. Do you sense as the public watches all of this that there is a cynicism that has taken hold that affects the actions of our you leaders. I think that's a fair way to think about it Steve. You know I've always said skepticism is fine and fact skepticism healthy. Cynicism I think is corrosive of and there seems to be a cynicism settling in as really ashamed because those institutions that you just mentioned right the institutions of government and the media via Are Among the most important institutions in the United States. They've kept US safe. They've made sure that we have equal. And Civil Rights enforce the law. They conduct intelligence. They operate the courts. These are some of the most important things we do as a society and for us to lose trust in those institutions Russians for that cynicism to sort of take hold at sad I think it may be deeply unfortunate and I think it can be highly corrosive and I worry About that Chuck Rosenberg. You've made our first crossover episode here in the MSNBC podcasting world a success. Thank you so much for joining us. Oh It's my pleasure. Thank you for having the Senate Majority Leader Mitch. McConnell and minority leader Chuck Schumer both addressed impeachment on the Senate floor today. Senator McConnell argued that the structure of the Senate trial should follow the same format. It was used for president. Clinton's impeachment trial just like twenty years ago. We should address mid-trial questions such as witnesses after opening arguments Sarah questions and other relevant motions there is. Senator Schumer responded. I just heard leader McConnell. Speak for thirty minutes on the subject of the president's impeachment went there was a lot of finger pointing name calling and misreading of history but not a single argument or discussion about the issue. And that's holding up a Senate trial whether there will be witnesses and documents not one mention. He has no good argument against having witnesses and documents so he resorts to these subterfuges. There doesn't seem to be much agreement there. We will see what happens when the full Senate is back in session on on January. Sixth but in the meantime if you want to know more about how the Senate trial might play out. Check out this past. Monday's episode of article two from earlier. This week article. Two inside impeachment is produced by Isabel. Angel Max Jacobs Claire by Aaron Dolan Preseve Orthon Alison Bailey. Adam Adam to Boa and Barbara. Wrap our executive producer is Ellen Franklin Steve Ties the executive producer of audio on Steve. Kornacki will be back on Monday..
"chuck" Discussed on The Oath with Chuck Rosenberg
"A whether or not it's impeachable and whether or not he'll be removed moved again is a political judgement that the senators will make in. There's a point that the president has made in other contexts as well specifically. I think the molar report and in the conversation around. But it's also something that Democrats have referred back to During the impeachment drama in that is the president talking about article two of the Constitution giving him the breadth of power. He has basically allowing him to do just about anything. Also take a look at one other thing. It's a think world's else article too. Nobody ever mentions article too. It gives me all of these right at a level that nobody has ever seen before. We don't even talk about article article. It's an argument. The president has made those powers those article to powers. How do you interpret the limits on them given what's in the constitution article two does confer broad powers on the president but certainly not unlimited? Let me just give you an example. Steve no question that the president has the authority in fact the constitutional authority to grant pardons or to nominate men and women to serve as federal judges or ambassadors. But I don't think anyone believes that that power power is unlimited meaning for instance if he wanted to make Steve Kornacki The United States Ambassador to France. Fine have at it. That's great But he couldn't and do it in return for a five million dollar cash payment that would be corrupt and so whatever. The contours are of presidents power under article two of the Constitution. Shutian as commander in chief or to exercise pardon authority or denominate men and women to the Federal Bench. It has to at least be constrained By the notion that you cannot act corruptly and it's also balanced by other powers that you find in the constitution ascribe to other branches of government. And there's always a fight over that by either way between the legislative branch and the executive branch often with the judicial branch. You know trying to weigh in and Determine the contours of that authority but it is absolutely absolutely not unlimited For the record I would decline the nomination to be ambassador to France. Too much travel for me. I'd hold that for Canada. I think I could probably handle. Oh that one let me follow up on that though because I think that you raise an interesting hypothetical there you're painting a scenario where okay five million bucks in cash. President gives out an an appointment clear clear corruption there but it does point to some pretty significant grey areas. Here doesn't it thinking of not five million bucks give into a president by an individual but five million bucks given to the campaign given to organizations supporting the campaign. That seems common when we talk about Ambassadorial appointments other appointments. It's in government. It seems to be a gray area there. Well look. I think you're right. I think all this behavior that we're talking about is on a spectrum from surely innocent to purely corrupt and the example. That you've just drawn I think is a great one steve. Because it shows you that it's not always easy to determine You know the difference between Corrupt Behavior And behavior that we think of as unseemly and behavior. That's perfectly okay in the eyes of just about anybody right. It's all on a spectrum but but You know the example. I use the five million dollar cash payment to make you ambassador to France even if you would turn it. Down is clearly clearly corrupt. An article article two cannot possibly be read. Not by any sane person to permit that you know where it really comes into play the article to authorities of the President and and the contest with Congress over whether or not it's legitimate is in the power as commander in chief right to make war to launch airstrikes to sending troops hotly debated During World War Two in the Korean War the Supreme Court granting a lot of authority to Franklin Delano Roosevelt With his article to Commander in chief hat on But actually restricting Harry Truman in some important ways when he tried to exercise similar powers during the Korean Rian War so this is a long standing debate it will go on well beyond the presidency of Donald J trump. We're GONNA take a quick break chuck but stick with with us. 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA be right back. Pay Everyone Steve Kornacki here I wanNa tell you about an NBC news podcast. I'm hosting uncalled article. Two inside impeachment. It's exclusively dedicated to bringing you the latest developments on the impeachment of president trump. I talked to NBC News reporters who are closest to the story to break down. What's new? What matters what it means for the twenty twenty election and our country new episodes drop every Monday Wednesday and Friday search? Now wherever you're listening to this podcast subscribe for free. Willie geist here this week on the Sunday. Sit Down podcast. I sit down with rapper. Actress Comedian Aquafina Vena to talk about her huge year with roles in crazy rich Asians and oceans eight. The podcast now for free wherever you download yours. I WanNa talk about how the idea oaths has played out in other impeach. We don't have many examples from the past but we do have one we reference it here frequently Bill Clinton and in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight nine hundred ninety nine back then. With Bill Clinton. He was impeached. One of the charges. It was perjury. It was that he had lied to a federal grand jury about an extramarital affair with Monica Lewinsky. Henry Hyde the judiciary committee chairman back then Republican from Illinois. He made the case back then. That Clinton had violated waited the oath that he took when he gave that testimony with the office of the president of the United States. The personal fate of the president is not the issue. The political fate of his party is not the issue. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is not the issue. The issue is perjury lying under growth that oath constituted a compact between the president. The American people that compact has been broken. The People's trust has been betrayed. It's interesting to look at. How oath were invoked back then chuck into remember that certainly in in public opinion and as it turned out in the Senate that argument we did not carry the day back then? No it didn't You know sometimes where you stand depends on where you sit. And you're seeing some of the arguments advanced today by Republicans Skins Echo eerily arguments advanced back then By Democrats when Bill Clinton was president. What's disappointing to me? Is that the president's conduct president trump's conduct seems to be Very much like what. The Muller team found with respect to Russian interference in our twenty sixteen election by that. I mean an attempt by president trump to get Ukraine to interfere in the twenty twenty election and that goes to the heart of the president's public conduct or if you will misconduct. I don't in any way condone. What Clinton did I thought his behavior was awful? Awful and lying under oath is not something I would have tolerated as a federal prosecutor. In fact I prosecuted people for doing exactly that but Clinton's misconduct act Didn't go to the heart of our electoral system as bad as it was again. I don't condone it in any way. It didn't go to the very fabric of our electoral taurel system. And that's what's so dangerous about President Trump's behavior now senators can decide whether or not that's impeachable. They ought to decide it in in a fair and impartial way. That may just not be happening. There's also we mentioned Clinton there's another parallel here with where the news is right now in in an where. It was back during his impeachment as Bill Clinton was impeached by the House. In December nineteen ninety eight. He launched Operation Desert Fox airstrikes in Iraq Iraq. Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world now now two decades later we've got pending Senate trial and military action the president authorizing military action drone strike. That killed the Kassam Sulamani. Top Top arrhenius general. We took action last night to stop a war. We did not take action to start a war. Flinty of Democrats out there right now saying the president had an obligation to consult Congress on this that he couldn't and shouldn't be doing this unilaterally You've got Republicans out there A saying he had the right to do that. He's got the the right. Under the two thousand one and two thousand to a military authorizations in the wake of nine eleven that Congress never pulled back in and I and therefore citing an imminent threat from terrorist he can he can authorize it. I'm curious what what would you make. Yes so this. Is that age old debate Under Article One of the Constitution Congress has the authority to declare war and also to appropriate money for the Department of Defense for our Armed Services under article Michael to the Constitution. The president is the commander in chief and when I referenced earlier you know what. The Supreme Court did with respect to Presidents Roosevelt giving him free rain or largely free rein and how the Supreme Court sort of restrained or reigned in President Truman. That goes to the very heart of this question. In fact when the framers were considering that power of Congress to declare war one of the debates they had in the constitutional convention mentioned was whether Congress could make war or declare war and they settled on.
"chuck" Discussed on The Oath with Chuck Rosenberg
"Chief Justice of the United States John G Roberts Jr. who'll administer the presidential oath office everyone please stand from NBC news this article too inside. Impeachment Steve Kornacki. Today is Friday January. Third please raise your right hand and repeat after me I Donald John Trump do solemnly swear I donald John trump wipe flab solemnly swear solemnly swear the presidential oath of office article two section. One of the constitution requires that every president elect complete complete at thirty five word oath before taking office that I will faithfully execute faithfully execute the office of President of the United States and I will faithfully fully execute the office of President of the United States the office of President of the United States article two of the Constitution also outlines impeachment impeachment situation. We find ourselves in today as the forty fifth president of the United States. Donald Trump faces potential removal from office. You'll do not uphold in your oath of office. Well I will tell you this I will uphold mind I will vote to impeach Donald Trump. Nobody ever mentions article article then. I have an article to where I have the right to do. Whatever I want does president but I don't even talk about that that's not what our founders owners had nine that's a president king? That's not what we're about here. So what did the founders have in mind and will to the best of my ability. The ability preserve protect and defend Deepak protect and defend deserve protect and the constitution of the United States Irvine protect and defend the constitution of the United States. Constitution of the United States will help you God so help me God today. Article too will explore the oath of the highest office. And what happens when it's tested. Chuck Chuck Rosenberg served as a career. Federal Prosecutor in later as the United States attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia. He has also served in senior positions at the Department of Justice in the FBI BI and as the head of the Drug Enforcement Administration Chuck is currently in MSNBC contributor. End the host of the PODCAST. The Oath Shock. You've got a resume that puts us all certainly only meat ashamed but welcome. Thank you for being here. I think the only thing that proves Steve is. I can't keep a job okay. Well that's one way of looking at it I guess The theme today a oaths the theme of your podcast. Obviously I'm curious. Every four years we watch the president of the United States. Take the oath of office from the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. If if we serve on a jury we maybe we'd been sworn in as a juror. Maybe we've seen a witness sworn in on a in a movie about a courtroom scene we've seen oaths and I think at least again against speaking from my own experience that they often seem very sort of ceremonial formulaic. I I wonder about your experience. You've taken I think ten oaths In in positions of high public trust. What is your experience like being administered one of those oaths and is it something that lingers with you once? It's an office But what are the mean to you. Yeah I I have taken it I think ten times. I've also administered Steve. Perhaps hundreds of times. I'm most recently when I ran the. Da To new special agents to new diversion. Investigators to new intelligence analysts and two chemists And I gotTa tell you it is is a very solemn moment it may seem formulaic But it's not and something that stays with you and stayed with me all of my professional life. I remember number where I took it. I remember who administered it And I remember thinking this is a big deal can you think of one of those Maybe the first time what what that experience was like. Take us back to it very first time. I was a new graduate from the University of Virginia Law School. I had joined the Department of Justice through the attorney. General's Honors Program And with a group of ten or twelve brand new colleagues in a small conference room on the fourth floor at the Department of Justice The Assistant Attorney General At the time Shirley early Peterson swore Sahlin. I'll never forget it but I also remember Taking the oath when I became. US Attorney both in Virginia and Texas. I remember Bob Muller administering the oath to me when I returned to the FBI in two thousand and thirteen is he was just finishing his twelfth year as director. It's like I said a solemn moment and it stays with you. Do the words come to you at at critical moments when you have a decision to make when you face a dilemma. Emma at all are you. Are you thinking back to the words. Well I don't know that I ever sat down and said you know this is tough decision that I have to make. Let me pull out the oath oath and read it again. I mean it's what you really making is a promise to be diligent to be faithful to the constitution and to the rule of law. But I'm hoping for people who are drawn to this type of work that they don't need an oath to remind them of the importance the sanctity of the positions that they hold that this is who and in what they are and the oath is really a way of reaffirming that publicly. So let's talk about the oath in the context of this impeachment drama. The oath the president of the United States. I mentioned every four years January twentieth. We all watch on television. A new president or reelected president puts his hand so far some they'll ib. I be a her hand on. The Bible takes the oath of office from the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Talk about the contents of that oath. I think we all know no the words but what do they mean while. Interestingly Steve The oath that the president takes upon assuming office is the only oath in which the Constitution specifies the precise words that have to be used That's not true for the oath. I took it's not true for the oath that members of the House or Senate take only for the president and it's really rather simple. It's three dozen or so words. It's not extensive. It's not detailed. It's not specific. It's very sort of high minded. Its promise to faithfully execute the job and to preserve protect and defend the constitution of the United States. I think by design It's is not specific. We expect a lot from our president's Some of them have lived up to the promise. Some of them have not yet so in this current moment. You've got. The United States has been impeached. Democrats say he has violated his oath of office. It's a broad oath. Does that make it difficult for Democrats to make an argument or for anyone to make an argument about any president that they violated their oath. Sure because it's really not a legal promise as much as a moral I promise That presidents are making when they take that oath and so what may appear to be You know a violation of that oath to one person may not be a violation elation to another these are political judgments that members of Congress will make about this president or other presidents whether he has Committed high crimes crimes or misdemeanors whether he should be removed from office upon trial in the Senate. These are in the end political judgments. What the president promises to do when he takes the growth and what senators are assessing? Now are really much more in the realm of political judgments. We're all very familiar. Obviously with the basic the case that Democrats have made against trump. The idea that he for a period held up aid to Ukraine that the purpose of holding up that aid was was to try to get Ukraine to launch an investigation or at least to announce launching an investigation into Joe Biden. The argument that that is a violation of the oath where is is the violation of the words in the oath there right well it would be arguably that he didn't faithfully execute the laws of the United States that he didn't preserve protect protect and defend the constitution again. It is not necessarily a crime that the house has to prove that the Senate has to judge its conduct conduct now the conduct could be criminal but the founders were reasonably clear at least if when we think about what they were drawing on when they formulated our the constitution and came up with the phrase high crimes or misdemeanors to describe one way in which a president could be removed from office. High crimes and misdemeanors didn't didn't mean criminal conduct per se. It meant public misconduct. And what you just described Steve. What the president did with respect to Ukraine to try to to get it to at least announced an investigation of a political opponent? I think clearly constitutes misconduct..
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"chuck" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press
"You say that because we are in a gap if you will, of senators particular, with military service, the ones that haven't mostly national guard, not to say that national guard services, not it wasn't fulltime military service. It's a little bit different. We don't have it used to be the Vietnam veterans. Even if they were on both sides, the out, they hung together when it was necessary. The war veterans hung together when it was necessary in general. They did those guys are gone. I don't think we have a single Vietnam veteran left, if I'm not mistaken on the Senate side. Right now, I think McCain might have been. Did you did you always feel? It was a lot easier explaining what you were doing to somebody who is a veteran than to allow maker, who didn't know military service, this may surprise you. But I remember one time I was doing, I think it was a house testimony. And one of the members asked me, you know, what, would, you know I like to see more from congress. I said, I'd like more visits. I said, I loved the congressional delegations, in the staff allegations that came over to Iraq and Afghanistan and you know, it, it always, you know, kind of causes your day to get a little chaotic when the senators congressman show up. But I will tell you every single on both sides, which show up, they wanted to know what the troops needed what was best for the troops. You saw this kind of great collegial atmosphere, when they were in Iraq and Afghanistan because they really seem to put their party differences, aside, when they were when they were spending time with the troops that came, they asked good questions. We spent a lot of time together. I probably did dozens. And dozens of co Dell's and staff Dell's. And I would have done more because it was great to educate them. I'll tell you. They always seemed interested in learning even if they didn't have any military background. So today is the, the wars, and obviously the war and Afghanstan still going on. We're we still have troops in Iraq. I think is good for these members pick through the new members to get out talk to the troops. See what the issues Arlen ground. I mean, these are these are smart members and I think they just need to spend more time with the troops. I don't think you have to have military experience when you when we cut Saddam Hussein. Did you think fifteen years later, we'd still be debating how many troops you should have in Iraq? No. Absolutely not. When I first arrived in Iraq, which was. October of two thousand and three I was turning over with the with one of the officers there. And I mean, we had just by C one thirty. We'd had to do the spiraled down, you know, to avoid potential surface air fire and we land in, in Baghdad. And there's a sensitive warzone and the guy relieving and says, hey, you know, there's a some pretty good restaurants in downtown Baghdad if I'm thinking what still because you know we thought in October that, that the war was just about over. Within a week, all of a sudden, we were getting ambushed on route Irish and everything changed. So no. We certainly didn't think an and after the capture of Saddam Hussein, we were hopeful I think that the what was now a burgeoning insurgency would die out. And we would resolve this thing for, for both, you know, the US infra rack, how do you fall in order that you don't agree with. So it depends on the, the only criteria for the military is, is it a lawful order? I understand that. But it lets you disagree with the policy. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pretend to know where you were in Iraq. Or, or maybe post-iraq one could argue there was a lot more unity about the beginning. And then nobody there really wasn't enough of a plan and let me ask it this way. The first rule supposedly of military engagement is no how you're going to end it. Did we know how we were going to end a rack and it we did we go before we knew how we're gonna end it. I would say actually, the first rule of the military is you do follow orders. And, and at the end of the day, you know, the, the warriors in the military soldier, say it was airmen marines their first allegiances to the United States. So if they get a lawful order to Iraq, go to Afghantistan, they are gonna pull together and do their job, and they're not going to spend a lot of time asking whether or not it was the right thing, the wrong thing, the senior military officers will have conversations all the time with policymakers to talk about strategies to talk about. Hey, if you're going to go into Iraq, we'd better have a plan to get out, but the soldiers that do all the hard work, they come prepared to do the nation's bidding and hope and hoping that the leaders have put him in a position to be successful. You know, you don't spend a lot of time when you're on the ground, you know, thinking about I don't think the soldiers do will, you know, at the end of the day is politically, the right thing cheerleader, how let me ask it this way. What's the most effective way for somebody in your in what the positions that you've held what's the most effective way to disagree with the commander in chief without being insubordinate actually in, in my time, certainly is a senior officer with both Bush administration and the Obama administration. One of the great things about this. Military is you can have these discussions, you can have these arguments. I will tell you within the sets that tone is at the defense. Secretary of the chiefs who sets the tone read question in, in my case. I would tell you it was secretary of defense and the chairman of the joint chiefs. And again, I was fortunate to work for apple McMullen, who was the chairman for most of the time when I was a senior gates Mullen Panetta you had some good. Did the best of both sides and exactly. Right. And I will also Marty Dempsey through was the chairman my last couple years. And I'll tell you what they allowed you to do is a senior officer. You could come in. You could sit around the table, which I did a number times and said, I don't agree. Why are we doing this, and you could have pretty heated discussions? But at the end of the day, we all knew we were trying to do what was right for the country. And if the decision was made to do X than you saluted, smartly, and you moved out, but you had an opportunity to voice, your concerns, and then on many occasions, we would go over to the White House. And you had an opportunity to talk to the president as a senior leader, and a voice, your concerns, or the president would come to the Pentagon. So again, I think the great thing about the civil military relationship that I am familiar with in my time as a senior officer was that you could have this great good, give and take and not feel that it would somehow stunt your career because you are not in agreement with. The chairman of the secretary or the president. Look this president makes it very hard to disagree them. It does you have not had to serve with them. I mean, look, he's stripped, he wanted to strip the security clearances that some former officials and you said, hey strip mine, too. And I understand that solidarity. Do you think you could have thrived under a circumstance where you couldn't disagree with the community? Yeah. Again, go back to depends on who the secretary of defense. And the chairman news. Having worked for Bush and Obama. I didn't agree with either one of those guys on a lot of things, but they were men of great integrity, and great character. And I always felt they were doing what was right as you know, that in the moment, or is this one of those things you've reflected, I knew at the moment. Okay. Oh, absolutely. You know, you spend a few minutes with them. And I think you understand the character of the individual. But it kind of back to back to the point, you know, having the secretary of defense, and again, I was fortunate to have gates Panetta. And Chuck Hagel as well. Great folks, that you could have conversations with, and they would carry the mail, along with the chairman to the president, and they didn't all of those guys had been comfortable disagreeing with their own party leaders. So they raid, if you think about their own careers. Whether it's illegal, whether it's been Atta, whether it's gates on this front when, when you. Are you at all worried that the military is getting politicized that there is this perception, that the left is not military friendly and only the right is more military friendly, you know, and it and it some of it the president tries to feed that idea, are you worried that it's actually taking hold? I'm not as much worried about the military, I'm more worried about the other institutions. I'm worried about, you know, the FBI I'm worried about the intelligence community. I'm more worried about them than I am about the military. There was a point in time. And I was talking to somebody just last night, the fundamentally changed everything about the American people's relationship with military and it was during, you know, the, the first during desert shield Desert Storm. Somebody had a bumper sticker that said, I support the troops. And that, and that started in Desert Storm, and the reason that was a CJ was because you could support the troops without supporting the policy. So now what you find with the American people is, whether they agreed of us going into Iraq or Afghanistan or they agree. Whether or not, you know, we're building up in the Middle, East doesn't make a difference. They understand that this is not the troops decision that this is a political decision by the leaders that were elected, and they can still support the troops, so you see strong support from the left and the right. And I think that's incredibly important for the country. Do you worry though, that it's made it harder actually criticize the military? James Fallah's wrote a whole piece about this that he, we're, we're so because we're so when I would call thirsty to be United about anything that the one thing that unites us is we go to the football games, we salute this, we salute that we've put these folks on pedestals that no individual can live up to, and therefore we become fearful of even criticize. I think that's a fair concern. I mean, the fact of matter is are far from perfect in the military, man. We have bad apples in the military. But the one thing that we know how to do is hold people accountable. So when somebody makes mistake when they are not in there are three litmus test of being in the military your decisions have to be moral legal and ethical, and if they are not moral legal and ethical, and you do something wrong, you will be held accountable, or you should be held accountable, no offense that should be the first three rules of any jazz. I'm sorry. Three. It's, it's frustration journalism is my frustration in politics. It's. Situational ethics situational morality. I mean, our, our political problems of today, almost all are due to what I call situational ethics agree. My, my only point was my time in the military that was a litmus test for every decision. I made was wasn't moral legal and ethical, so. People have teased about the idea that caught if anybody could we need somebody to bring the country together, somebody who's not tarnished by politics. Maybe it's a guy like Bill mcraven. Maybe it's a guy like David portrays before, then, and I was like he's not running for president. And then I thought he admitted to being the guy that took the shoes off..
"chuck" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press
"The penalty down the road if they choose not to do this. I think is just so greater to the branch. That's the that's the debate it's fat the real debate here. This is this is not, I think, politically, by the way. If the roles were reversed, the House Republican peach men are they wouldn't have waited for Muller's new statement? They articles that have been drawn up, right, Paul? Yes. I think their, their last eight years in majority show this stuff the way Democrats do. What? Because they have the because of the way districts are drawn the overwhelming majority and my mean like eighty five percent of house. Republicans have always feared their voters I their own conservative voters. I it just even after the, the white bout of two thousand eighteen they still fear their own verdict voters, I and would go toward a conservative instinct, rather than a general election mode. It's just how they have acted. And, you know, I mean that was what Tom DeLay did. Twenty one years ago delay became the after the disastrous, ninety eight midterms delay became the driver of the impeachment of Clinton even though by then it was pretty clear. What was going to happen, a hung jury in the Senate? But delay thought it was the right primary base move that was a political decision. We're saying is that it's well I mean, right. No matter what this is going to feel like you know, you could sit here and say it's a short term, politic. Decision or long-term political decision guy, thought just in a mosh, I think he, he paints, the dilemma, an interesting way considering our times. He says he said, this is townhall. If you have a society, where we all where all we care about, is that the other side is bad, and therefore, we don't have to do the right thing that society will break down, and you will have no liberty. It is, this is the subsidy of our argument about why if a president broke the law, you have to hold them accountable. You can choose to acquit him, but he should have to go through the pain of defending himself in defending this. And that to me is the is the if you're a true constitutionalist, that is only position you can have, and he's a Republican, right? Which you haven't found any Democrats were, but he's been consistent in this gas. He is a small constitutionalist of sorts. Who's a strict reader of the guns to more so than most most many libertarians are, but he's basically saying if you had all believe in the constitution is sort of in limited government, all of these things, you sort of had no choice but to put him through the process. It doesn't mean you throw him out of office. It's that is an and yet, that's not the sort of lens that most Democrats are looking at this throw, which is where you get tied up into. All the different problem. And part of it is that, you know, we're now at this place this point in time. And the Democrats have not made a case like that, for the public, it's a very like it's kind of, it's not a very sexy case is hate to the public about why you want to do this. It's very cerebral. And you know, it's kind of you have to presume baseline of believing in certain. And that's all these things. But you had sex was the basis of the other, which is that was construction. There was a very kind of much easier sell in terms of making it making a case for it. Whereas this is, you know, this is you have to get people to really care about things that are going to happen. You know, institutions and things that'll have what is going to look like in ten twenty thirty years from now, and that's, that's just hard. Let's go to the logistics, Paul. Let's say Democrats are moving down this road. The president, I think might might decide to say, okay, we've got a debt ceiling. Let's complete a lot of things here. Vicki what do you think that this will just we already knew it was going to be pretty hard to figure out how the debt ceiling was going, get raised the budget caps are going to get resolved, all of those things, we know the, the president already has decided to throw the investigations into congressional negotiations? I can imagine. Debating impeachment helps he, he made that clear he came out after basically throwing the democratic leadership out of the White House last week on a meeting about infrastructure. He came out and in rose garden, basically said, we can't do can't to tracks. We can't do investigative and legislative track now, I, I ran around the capital that would at the moment that happened saying, wait to see mean, everything is there been the all clear from Susan Collins to John thune said, no, we think he just means on infrastructure. But yet, if they formally vote to open an impeachment inquiry, which is what you have to do to do that, you would have a full house vote, like they did in nineteen ninety eight if they do that, it does get it does get tricky, because they need to do things to keep the, the federal government from defaulting on a twenty one twenty two trillion in debt and keep the government open and running. But if he's, I mean, he's mostly talking. Things that weren't going to get done anyways, and these other things I mean, you know, although I guess, the disaster relief Bill, for instance is, maybe not a good indicator of how things are going to go if they with, with the must do things that they have to debt. Raising the debt limit. What? Paul. What is it gaining by by just waiting for everybody to come back and vote on it other than making it a tiny bit harder for David produce reelection. There are I'm sorry if I if I were David pretty I'd be really myself, I think, there are about a half dozen House Republicans that are like the Japanese fighters on remote Philippine islands ten years after World War, Two and maybe. Yeah. This cruise. But he would do it to Cornyn. What we're supposed to find here. Basically chip ROY Thomas Massie of Kentucky. They're the ones who are objecting to just passing Kentucky. Mitch McConnell, I, yeah, I just find it interesting. It's a lawmaker John Cornyn state and a lawmaker and Mitch McConnell state. These aren't chumps I know I know. But again, they're still fighting as if they control congress as if they have the majority, and they're going to come back and they'll lose the vote, probably the only be about two or three dozen who vote against this if the numb. Numbers of may of shrunk because now people don't they feel like they've been suddenly, wait a minute. You made this no vote that which more famous. Yeah, yeah, but, you know, look, if this is to Carol's point, if this is what it's like trying to get disaster relief through, but the Hex impeachment gonna create. Yeah. You've been listening to Chuck Todd Castro, meet the press, my guess, or Carolee from NBC news. Paul Kane from the Washington Post. All right. I want to transition a little bit to the presidential. And I have to say Mark Maureen, I we're both pretty skeptical about how heavy of hand the DNC was going to take in trying to own winnowing the field, I, I have to say I am. I am surprised pleasantly surprised I say this because I think of political party should take this matter. Another own hands. I'm pleasantly surprised that the DNC. Paul. Kane has decided to okay come Labor Day. We'll have given you to shots with twenty person debates come Labor Day. You gotta you gotta show us something in order to qualify for debate, three, they're willing to winnow the field by Labor Day. And I don't hear too many people squealing about it. I thought we would I think they're I think they probably set the bar initially at a height that they thought would be harder for some people to cross the one, the one percent, sixty five thousand donor, they were pretty proud of that donor thing they really that was going to be a tough marker. They thought the Andrew yangs of the world would never get sixty five thousand or Marianne Williamson. Yeah, we'll figure it out. But I think they realized quickly thereafter Elma, gosh, there is so much energy out there on the liberal donor world and all the act blues that are steering enough donations that you're going to have what twenty or so they're going to qualify for the first. Eight but I also do think they are realizing that this sprawling field is just not helping them is really just sort of left the field in place numbers. Really? All right. Moving, you know, Biden went up a little bit burning went down a little bit, Warren. That's really it. It's not like other people. Interesting. I've been I like to put these guys in different buckets, and trying to sort the candidates a little bit, and four buckets, Joe Biden's got a bucket on his own right now. Sort of the next three to me, three or four or Warren and Sanders and Harrison Buddha. Gibb who all seem to have who've either real money or real jobs are real something. And then there's this other third bucket of candidates that I think in ten or twelve percent field would all have an opportunity to flex their talent. Michael bennett. Amey Clova shar Steve Bullock. Jay Inslee could put a lot of these folks in here but they are basically have been crowded out by yourself. Molten your ex walls, your Andrew gangs. You're in your Tim Ryan no disrespect to some of those candidates. But they're sitting at the one percent, and they basically make it that much harder for this for this for the basically, the jenex the jenex candidates to pop so far. Only Buddha chits found a moment. Right. And that's why the, the first debate in particular is going to be so critical. They're gonna themselves on fire. Moment. Definitely viral moment. But then, you know, then that might they might implode. So that could that could also have a wiggling out out of fact, because if someone tries to move in, or do something that's to harder to gimmicky, or too strange than, you know, their, their moment is gone, but it's going to be, you know, Biden his team has said that they planned to really have him focus on hard on debate prep. It's Bennelong time he's out of practice and, and they're worried about him getting somehow diminished in a debate because he's standing on this, pedestal so much right now. But for everyone else, I mean for all of those that those last two buckets, that you describe those are the ones who really need to have some sort of moment in Paul. I think this is serving for years, we always had the Ames straw poll as the great winner on the Republican, and we never we don't we haven't had really not since the Democratic Party got rid of straw, polls after eighty four when Alan Cranston whenever straw poll. You know, enjoy for those of you that remember Alan cranston's presidential campaign that gift was for you to people. But this is actually, I think going to create a focus sometime in July and August where you're kissing. Gillibrand of the world might have to spend money earlier than they wanted to perhaps. You're in Clovis Shari's, perhaps your coif booker's, spend some money to pop their numbers in internet state. Do some direct mail maybe new national cable, something that they might not have done without this, this new threshold. True. And there will be a couple of moments, the first set of debates June twenty six and twenty seventh grand then July fifteenth is huge not just because it's my birthday right? But a big fun, financial reporting day in which everybody's gonna have to reveal how much money they raised if you know, Kirstin gillibrand is sitting on, like two million or three million cash or, and everybody else's at twenty or twenty five million. You're going to see people just dropping out. Out or doing one last surge of money. Like you said, in Iowa or Hampshire to try to get into that next set of debates, but it is going to the field, just will shrink..
"chuck" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press
"Good afternoon from Washington. I'm Chuck Todd. And this is the Chuck Todd cats after two years, he finally speaks the sound of his voice Robert Muller made a statement, Wednesday morning in which he reiterated the court conclusions of the special counsel, report and said it was up to congress to take the next steps later in this podcast survival of the fittest. The DNC announces a higher bar for their third debate. If ectively winnowing the field in half by Labor Day of this year, the unintended consequences of that decision. And what that will mean for the Jila brands of the world. Also, Republican congressman just in a mosh holda, townhall his home district, and takes questions after yet another long tweet storms, calling for the start of impeachment hearings have Republican, Bob Muller, and Republican, Justin Amash pushed Democrats to impeachment, and then later, you're not gonna wanna miss this as a fantastic conversation. I had with retired Admiral William mcraven. He join me for a special. Interview his career navy seal, what it was like to command the raid to kill Osama bin Laden, but we talked a lot more than just that he has spent a lot of time in higher education at the university of Texas, let alone seen government up close, and we talk about all of the different ways. We could solve some serious problems. That's a conversation with listening to but to begin I'm joined today by perfect pair of reporters to discuss today's blockbuster news. Paul Kane, senior congressional correspondent for the Washington Post, and NBC news correspondent Carol Lee Paulin kale. Hello, hello. All right. Mr. Muller spoke for the first time, I have to say voice a little higher pitch than you expect care. Just a little different. Yeah. Did you didn't you have like a sound in your head? You just had I don't know. I had a deeper also really wanted to stay right on script, and we didn't really see him looking very much. No, no. He wa- was reading he eleven. Right. I mean like eleven PM. Oh, AM right on the nose. Yep. It was a little bit of sort of Jared Kushner, finally spoke years ago everyone. Whoa. That was his voice, and he was a by the way, the one that always kills me as Wilbur Ross guy like shouldn't sound the way Wilbur Ross Wilbur to be like, well for family. Rostov dad. All right. So we heard his voice let, let me let you guys here. Little bit here a play a little bit of sound from Muller. If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime. We would have said, so we did not, however make determination as to whether the president did commit a crime, the introduction to the volume two of our report explains that decision. It explains that under long standing department policy president, president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office that is unconstitutional Kerley that. Bob Muller didn't say anything that wasn't in the report today, however what he chose to emphasize is fascinating. And he made it crystal-clear from the very beginning they operated under the idea that could not indict the president of the United States. Yeah. And that's what was so fascinating about his statement is, you know, he's talked a little bit about the first part of the port. The Russia interference in the election and the Trump's campaigns potential ties that which the with the investigation found there weren't any, but he spent a lot of time on this other piece, the obstruction peace and you, it's hard to have interpret that in any other way, other than he wanted to clear the record for how he saw things to basically get. Rebuttal to Bill bar totally. I thought it was absolutely Bill bar, Paul. I mean I look at it this feels like the. What the way he would have hoped a neutral attorney general would have delivered a summary of his report. This is the summary that he wanted a neutral attorney general, to deliver, and it wasn't the summary, Bill delivered. He did aknowledge during that nine minutes or so of talking, he acknowledged that he had asked Barr to release the summaries that they had written. And he made this reference to he decided sort of go a different way. I, I love what he did praise though. He said, we're glad they did follow through on releasing largely releasing the report and the praised he said they, they kept their word in that decision. Yeah. Again, I said, the most important thing Muller said throughout the whole thing to understand, Bob Muller is we chose the words carefully. That is the deaf that'll be on Bob Muller's, too. I think we should realize every single word he uttered had meaning today. Absolutely. And I mean, that's what members of congress are trying to do right now is to parse through each one of those words, parse man. Well, I didn't sound like a guy parson anymore. Yeah. But. We ought to train in this impeachment trained, just blew the whistle and it's about to stop it. Jerry Nadler station in the Upper West side. I think I think they're still going to want to have him testify. I, I know okay, says he doesn't want to, but I think they still are gonna ask him to come testify if I were inciting whether to start impeachment. Or during the process. I mean to me, that's the question now this is not going to testify, he say would if he was forced to. I mean he's gonna do it if you have to. That's not the debate. Now. Right. Isn't it? Now, how does ANSI policy? Stop this. I think she is she's caught. She's caught in a box here. This is the are still no more indications that the public wants that once an impeachment proceeding, and then they did six weeks ago. Six months ago, the politics of it for her are just as dangerous. Bob Muller just gets no traction outside of the, you know, fifty to sixty surrounding blocks of the US capital. We had reporters who are in town halls this week. And except for just in a Marsh where that was the entire point of the town, halls, talk impeachment. You know, we have reporters that were coming from swing districts where not once did it come up at all, you know, Carol I, I go back to something I've been thinking about this dilemma that they face. And I think it's not an easy answer to be too. I think you can make a you could could make a case that the founders under the current rules that we have would sit there that they would be, I think split on this. Do you do you let the vote? Otr speak first, and then decide since there's one more opportunity for voters to speak. Like I think there is truly a debate about that. But when you look at the Iraq war boat in two thousand two in Paul, you remember this, I remember you and I were both covering capital, pal. Short atkin. Dave with more with the campaign focus. That was a lot of Democrats Gephardt and Daschle in particular were worried about November twenty two. They weren't worried about November twenty seven twenty eight twenty twenty ten the Iraq war vote, John Kerry, basically got talked into 'cause he was told never be he'll never be president, right? Five years later that vote the those voted for regret it and those that vote against it puff their chest out. Democrats have to worry that the impeachment conversation. What will it look like in five years? That's the that's what they have right in that could cut various ways. You know what is it look like in, in five years? If they don't let the voter process play out if they get out head, what does it look like in five years, or ten years, even or, or longer if there's a president who has done everything that is in the public domain, that he's done. And the way he's talked himself in office, everything in the report, and they don't do anything. And you know, there's this at the debate over, you know, politics and, and sort of not so much legacy. But, but in the institutional ISM, and how they come out on that, you know, I think that Nancy Pelosi is potentially could buy a little bit of time if she applied the pressure and cut some deal with Muller to But button. what do you actually not wanna buy time? If you think you're going to end up doing impeachment. You only to me only time at this point if you can kill it. Well, that's the other thing she's also a race against time for in terms of, you know, do you start this process, and then you're in the middle of things. And at a point next year where it's not politically a good idea to mate in the middle of things. And what if they do all of that, and they're still in the same exact place that they are, what this was the debate we already having five minutes, this little show? Yeah. Meeting, which is this question? Do do do House Democrats end up taking the looking at impeachment. The way House Republicans look that the Benghazi hearing, you're not, meaning your, you know, is there a downside of presenting all of this information, you know, to the public. So what if it goes nowhere, it certainly was accumulated baggage for Hillary Clinton. So what if this doesn't go anywhere? You are being able to spend three months making a case that the president doesn't care about the rule of law. That, that is the tricky side of the politics of it. They but at the end of the day. That happened Benghazi happened just before the two thousand twelve election. It didn't it didn't hurt her. But her testimony her testimony member. The anthem hearings were two years later. Yeah. But she was still riding high off of that. What, what they ended up getting was an indirect Bank shot through the Email investigation. And that is, what really hurt her, and that, that's what some Democrats who wanna push the say, you don't know what you which is why the White House is nervous. You don't know what they end up getting. They will have to do something. They have to do something more aggressive. Whether it comes with the formal impeachment proceeding label, or not, they have to move forward. The one question we have to grapple with historically, though is doesn't impeachment that just ends up with a hung jury in the Senate as we know it will turn out to be does that actually establish. Anything historically, does that really Bill Clinton held a victory celebration. The day he was impeached, about one hundred Democrats went down to the White House, south lawn and rallied around him and Al Gore called the greatest president. In history, and it caused out gore. It and politically always believed that out gourd never lived on that moment. Probably probably could you imagine? Can you imagine what Trump will do the day? He's impeach and fireworks. Okay. That's all true. We know how he's going to respond with his group of people and all of that the question becomes, I think there's downsides both of these decisions at this point? They got away, what's the what's the worst downside. Or what's the least bad downside? Yeah. And the problem is, they just don't know the to jump in or or not. You can't really I mean you can game the whole thing out and in various scenarios, but, you know, at a certain point, like with we were talking about with, with Hillary Clinton's emails like you just don't know if something like that is going to turn off. That was luck for that for the Republicans. And, and so, you know, they can mullet over and Mullen over. But at at some point, they're either going to have to decide that they're in or they're not. To me, it's the penalty down the road if they choose not to do this. I think is just so greater to the branch..
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"Hi, I'm Chuck Rosenberg. I spent most of my professional life in public service. I was a federal prosecutor I worked at the FBI, and I ran the DA since leaving the Justice department I've been distressed by the level of discourse in this country. These days there seems to be more heat than light. And so my new podcast the oath with Chuck Rosenberg is based on a simple premise. We're going to have thoughtful conversations about difficult topics with interesting people, I'm sure you've heard of some of them like pre Pereira, the former United States attorney from the southern district of New York you'd like to think not only is known above the law. But also like to think that every victim no matter what their social standing there ocupation to they can be vindicated in court too. And Lisa Monaco, homeland security advisor to President Barack Obama you were part of a mission to work with the president's national security team to help keep the country safe. That's the job Jim Komi. The former director of the FBI specifically in institutions like the FBI runs down into bedrock. Those values are at the heart of that place. And no president serves long enough to screw that up and ending McCabe. The former deputy director of the FBI your job is to think of others I to think of the safety and the wellbeing and the security of your community of your country of the people around you before yourself. Each of them took an oath as I did to support and defend the constitution of the United States. You've seen them on TV. You may have read their books. Now hear them in long-form right here on the oath. We start on may first you can find my show on apple podcasts and everywhere else said you get your podcast. Thank you. So very much for listening.
"chuck" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press
"It is Wednesday April third. Good day from Washington. I'm Chuck Todd. And to what is the inaugural edition of the Chuck Todd cast. Yes, we're using that con- dad humor is allowed year on today's show. We are going to probably the best way to look at. It is considered your mid week. Meet the press we're gonna try to dip into all the big stories driving the week as it stands now twenty twenty usually he'd these days at the top of the list, followed by whatever shut down or start up. The president is trying whether it's border healthcare or whatever it is. And then a lot of other stuff that's on my mind that gets missed out on the television front a little bit. So today, we'll dump into fundraising numbers twenty twenty. And we got the Joe Biden the touchy feely issues their healthcare coming back, obviously with me today to chew on all this or to people who occasionally have a sense of humor. But a really good reporters. Shana Thomas wash beer cheese for Bice news and Mark Leibovich chief. National correspondent the New York Times magazine Shana in Mark girl podcast. That's right. I wanted to feels different would feel comfortable on camera right now. Exactly. Exact you realize you're here because you're two of the people that it is okay. To tell me off really that. Can we actually say f- or like the? I can I can curse but did not last night. But I almost did. I think you know, I kind of think I'll be had I've had these debates about like do I've been caught on camera flipping a bird, and I have. Yeah. And it's on YouTube forever and ever and ever and ever and ever press. Like one of those off camera off camera. It's all Mike barnicle fault, which always play. My put me off. I just didn't do it on camera. But that's the way. I look at it. You really wanna curse? Yeah. Do you wanna be call? This is only audio. So maybe I will flip you off. And just people won't now. That's what I it's not that the Houston Texans are number one. Okay. Yeah. I should should. We're we're a bit of a cranky mood because I took my son to the national Bryce Harper nationals game. The good news is we saw Bryce Harper. Strikeout twice. Yes. Then we left up to fifth inning. That's exactly right. I jump into twenty twenty I wanna jump in. And I wanna jump in a little quick because we're gonna fundraising numbers coming in. But the president basically wants to start campaigning yesterday it meaning he's dying to campaign. He doesn't want to govern. So he you ever stop camping. I mean, fishery we do have to always remember that they refiled to run for re election the day after he was inaugurated either the day of or the day after he was inaugurated, which not even Brock Obama dead. They have been campaigning the whole time. What what else do we call this? It's what he wants to do. He's more comfortable campaigning. Well, there's the old. Mario Cuomo saying campaign and. In poetry governent pros. Yeah. He he has case sort of skip the poetry along the way here. And I don't know look, I don't know if this is actually poetry or prose. But there's no doubt. He much prefers campaign. Much much prefers sort the episode of nature of winning the hour, the tweet whatever. So. Yeah. You don't think it's a little free verse when he's on on the stump? Like, it's clear he enjoys it. And that that's why he wants to do it. It's fun. I mean, I just I if you were to say, okay when was the president in governing mode. I would have really hard time sort of like going to a specific date or that he really immersed himself in do we feel like twenty twenty races in full steam now now that we're in the middle of vetting Joe Biden, and I want to get to the Biden thing in a minute. But because I feel like the minute we get into Joe Biden. We're not going to be able to get our hands off that story. Thank you very much. Oh. No, there'd be a special effect here. Will there be a remedy is that actually in a script somewheres where? Okay. This is good. How like how long ago to that? Come to you just like as you said it. I don't understand. Why people know is witty leaning all of the joke, Mr. this tag, quello, sex, whatever. Yeah. You know, what is this going to be ended? We can massage it a little bit. So that's good. That's how it's done. See? That's really. Personally. I I don't want it to be full swing twenty twenty yet. So I'd like to answer your questions, they know it's not just because can't we at least wait to the Iowa State though. We're not waiting Shawna. Thomas hopeful wish I could focus on something else. But realizing twenty twenty needs to take all of the energy. I mean, it feels full swing only in that. We have a president as we said never stopped campaigning. We have so many candidates on the on the democratic side. We have just a great deal of energy on the democratic side to actually get this thing going, but you know, they're five more people still yet to announce that we think will announce so ready for the five can you name the? Try it people three I'll give you a hand. Just give you a hint to or former office and three currently hold office. These are five all Democrats. Michael Bennett didn't have him yet. Sorry. Make that six. Abrahams. Not putting not counting on this. He's announced. I'm talking about having announced Eric swallow ago. There's one being a molten ding to Joe Biden, that's three. Okay. There's two MARCY. This is harder. So many candidates Chila brand did her already. Let's see. I'm you know, what we don't like unpack cast, wait. Yeah. Air they're gonna end it. You just assume they added or the other two. Okay. That's the whole point podcast all the time. The good ones are unedited, John Delaney. I'm not counting. Oh. Tim Ryan and Terry McAuliffe. Conversation with someone about Terry McAuliffe. Now with the democratic operative. I was having a conversation about Terry McAuliffe and the joke that he was making to me was if I told you a blue like a purple state democratic former governor who has a history of being a pragmatic democrat was thinking about getting into this race. What would you say? And I was like that's that's an interesting, and he was like one of his name is Terry McAuliffe, and I was like that different conversation. That's a little rough what because I by Terry a little bit. I mean fine, and we need to see what he stands for. And if you actually decides to run, and I think that probably depends a little on Joe Biden. But I think the connection to the Clintons this idea of going back in time to democratic leadership committee and the Clinton machine and all that other stuff it is it it was baggage for Hillary Clinton. It's why the decision was already made about Hillary. Entin in some ways from the beginning. It would be baggage for Terry McAuliffe, plus Terry McAuliffe last name, isn't Clinton. So you, and I know who is, but you want you want to ask one of those people in Iowa right now who is going to events. Do they knew who Terry? Here's here's the the reason why had heard the Terry at backed off Terry one hundred percent. And then suddenly he was on a percent. And the hundred sent out was a combination of two things one. You brought up which Joe Biden the other is the mess of the state of Mr. Liebich. Well, no, it's not, but it one term, man. But right. Out and like this not it's my understanding the state Democratic Party, which does have mid-term, it's midterm elections or not yours. They have no head of their party. Okay. The governor is somebody no one wants to be seen with little tenant. Governor is somebody. Nobody wants to be seen with the attorney general is somebody that not many people want to be seen with. I think he's like like, you're okay. He's done an interview him at the Harris teeter. It's okay. I think other than that instrument. So they actually went Terry McAuliffe. Do be the face of the Virginia Democrat party their midterms. Some people are even talking about making him state. So either runs for president or becomes the state chair of the Virginia Democratic Party LePage? You know? It's funny. I I don't know. I mean, that's a tough choice. If you Terry McAuliffe planning a life to be the head of the state Democratic Party. No, I think the DNC care part was just a warm up. I think it was just know he wants to sort of did the same thing. Actually took a step down and became the Virginia. GOP I will. I mean, you could there are few candidates in the field that you could sort of go down a list and say what what does Terry McAuliffe have. That is a really good quality. You mentioned purple state fairly popular governor very tank Tanner likes campaigning canceling like Joe Biden to sort of. I mean, check just likes to hold the apparatus of it. But you know, it's but Clinton, right? So I mean, I don't know how you lose that. But the thing is maybe you just do. I mean, maybe the lesson. We'll get to Biden, obviously. But maybe the lesson of the Biden thing is just like let it roll. I mean, I do think row let it roll look Ralph Ralph Northam situation is is kind of a mean for his perverse is at all is is kind of an advertisement for just let it roll just like not let the news cycle. Eat you up. And I'm not saying that he's like a a master handler of damage control or like a situation like this by any stretch. But look, your your are one of the more unaccountable positions, you could possibly hope to be when you were in one term situation elected off. You know, it's interesting about feeding frenzies just in general. And I think we're learning this in the age of Trump feeding frenzies effective until the until you're no longer hungry. I mean it like, you know, and there is a point where Trump figured this out a long time ago, let your opponents keep punching themselves out, and if you just. I think it does. It does actually roll off his back. I think lives marks. Yeah. He gets irate in in private and things like that. But he it is the lesson. And I'm not sure it's the greatest lesson for politics in general or democracy. But it is the lesson from twenty sixteen and now from the Trump campaign and Trump administration. If you just let them talk themselves out they'll move on before I get to Biden, and I'm gonna put Biden in a special box here. We're gonna soon Biden actually his not running for now. So without Biden in this race right now of the people running who the three front runners. I don't believe there's one but give me the top tier? And if the top tiers three or four candidates in in your mind, and what is the top tier? How do you defend the top? I haven't. Okay. So we don't you are not finding I've got a top tier in my head. But what's yours? Okay. Do we wanna go like back and forth? Just do. Yeah. Let's go back and forth. You go first. Okay. I think number one Bernie Sanders and that a lot has to do with. Money previous energy from twenty sixteen. There are people who out there. Who know they love Bernie Sanders. They still Bernie Sanders. I am going to go out in a very weird limb here and say mayor Pete Pete already in the not getting there yet. But that's okay. That's interesting and put them there there enough. And then it's like picking Texas checking your final four at there. That's right. That third spots. I'm hard one new three or four. I'm okay with that. I have right now, I have three and a half tickets. I'm gonna put comma Harris up there. Okay. So that you three right now. That's my three right now. You've anybody not in this top tier that you wanna put it. Okay. I'll put it in your ear. She got Bernie Kamla Pete. So you don't put PetO in there in there because I'm not because I am not convinced yet. I'm not convinced that being overly Texan on. Yes. Okay. Yes. And so that is part of the problem. Also not convinced convincing the race. Born and raised. I have a tattoo. There's a lot. But two is of the Lone Star state actually, a Lone Star is alone star keeping Beddoe off your late yet. I'm keeping Beddoe off. My listen, I'm not convinced. 'cause I don't know if he knows what he's running yet. I'm sure can find out in the odyssey lebeau. I am going to put Elizabeth Warren in their top. I'll. Because I think first of all I think. I feel like she's been treated unfairly. I feel like she has been overlooked somewhat by people sort of a corridor focusing a little bit too much on things like momentum fundraising, which is real obviously. But look I think if you've been watching closely she's run a good race. She she seems to be capturing a slice. I mean, she's very good on the stump better than people give her credit for her audiences seemed to really be responding to her. She does seem to be chipping away at this thing and playing a longer game as far as this us go, and and so we're having more traditional kind of democratic campaign. I agree with you on. And I think warrants had I think Warrenton nouncement speeches the most cohesive. I think that her problem is is that I think every candidate is going to go through an elective test. We are not going to see the Democrats nominate who we all thinks the most electable, but every single person who goes through the process of. Siding on a candidate in their own mind. Decides can they stand up to Trump whatever that is the we just don't know what the measuring stick is for every voter. But we know that is a stick. Yes. My concern for Warren is that voters have decided 'cause I I heard it Niwa. Oh, boy, man. She