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Unraveled: A Long Island Serial Killer
"christy marac" Discussed on Unraveled: A Long Island Serial Killer
"I'm Alexis linklater. And I'm Billy Jensen. When detective Jim sharf snapped the cops on William Talbot, he knew that genetic genealogy could be a revolution in law enforcement. But he didn't anticipate what it would fully reveal. Just one month earlier, Golden State killer Joseph Deangelo had been identified using genetic genealogy. One month after talbott, it would be Raymond roe. Two of those three offenders had no serious criminal history. I started noticing that a lot of these other people that were being arrested by the use of genetic genealogy are people that only did it once or there's only DNA left at one crime scene. I'm thinking what kind of a person are we dealing with here? Our investigation of the row and Talbot cases in the previous episodes exposed an undeniable implication. Profiles can only be so useful in hunting down someone who has never killed before and then never kills again. In this final episode, we're asking the question, what is the future of profiling in light of genetic genealogy? And how can it possibly plan for this type of killer? Paul holes, who spearheaded the investigation of the Golden State killer, recognized the problem facing profilers when he heard the details of Raymond roe killing Christy marac. If I were to take a look at the crime scene, this looks like a predator, likely committed, you know, priors and possibly committed more afterwards, the characteristics are there. Therefore, this is likely a serial offender. Did profiling just not account for this species of killer. The previous models are a little bit problematic from a behavioral analysis standpoint. Now, you have the one offs who commit a similar enough crime that can fool those of us that have worked serial cases. There hasn't been a really good comprehensive study to figure out, well, what is going on with these offenders? These are professional investigators with decades of experience under their belts. And they're realizing how easily they can be fooled. Why? Because they've been taught to rely on the model that profiles have been selling for decades. When the FBI started its behavioral analysis unit in the 1970s, the focus was on serial killers. These were the headline grabbers, the real-life monsters that captured America's fear and fascination. People like Ted Bundy, Charles Manson and Dennis Rader, the BTK killer, are perfect examples. Law enforcement would call them lust murderers or something to that effect. They started to study these lust murderers, the serial offenders. There was this idea that serial killings had this sort of addictive quality. What are your thoughts on that? It became apparent that many of them had a very act of fantasy life about the violence. Prior to them ever committing the crimes. And that they would continue to fantasize, even after they had committed the crimes. So profilers in the early days felt that this fantasy was so core to the person. That that would be such an addiction to them, that they would continue to do that until they could no longer do that. You hear the phrase that serial killers never stop, and so if a series stopped, it's assumed that while they went into custody. They became disabled. They've died. The addiction theory, by definition, would not pertain to a one and done killer. But that type of offender was not being studied, or even really acknowledged. If the person wasn't caught quickly, they just weren't caught. And those crimes were then assumed to be part of a serial killer spree, yet to be identified. But even with all the attention being given to serial killers, how accurate were the conclusions..
Unraveled: A Long Island Serial Killer
"christy marac" Discussed on Unraveled: A Long Island Serial Killer
"What did your brain, your heart, stomach do when you heard Raymond Rowe? 20,000 thoughts at once? To hear it was him that was just unbelievable. Given the fact that this was such a huge personality in this area, people were just shocked. Just shocked. Christina butler, who was a TV news reporter in the Lancaster area for 18 years, felt a particular connection to the case. She was in 7th grade when the murder happened. It was the year after I left the elementary school. I had neighbors and good friends who had her that year as a teacher. So she was still pretty fresh in my mind. Was the idea in the feeling that there would be answers at some point. I don't think as a child, it ever would have occurred to us that we would never know what happened, but then as time went on, okay, now it's the 5 year anniversary. Now it's the ten year anniversary. At some point, you start to accept that maybe you'll never know. Who did it? Being a reporter and knowing her is more than just a story that came up every December 21st. I always felt connected or pushed to bring attention to things like the billboards. I became friends with her brother Vince. So he had told me billboards were going up. It always felt a reassuring when those things happened. Those reminders, because it showed you, it's still out there. We're not giving up all hope. As a reminder, the Moroccan family had put up a billboard in 2007, hoping to drum up new leads in Christie's murder. While no arrests were made as a result, it did keep Christie's name alive. 20 years after her murder, if you said, Christy marac in Lancaster county, people knew we were talking about. People knew that murder. Because of the gruesomeness of it and just so many questions surrounding it. As a reporter, Christina also knew pretty much any person in town who had some public influence. One of those people was Raymond Rowe. I noticed DJ freeze. We'd been at the same function. We'd been at media events together. DJ did clubs. He would guest host on radio shows. DJ, several of my friends, weddings. Were there sort of from at a glance, attractive things about his personality. He was a popular guy. He was a popular guy. He could be charismatic when he needed to. He could be professional when he needed to be. Christina kept up with rose career as he expanded his reach beyond the local scene. I know he tried to really branch out and New York City in Philadelphia and he did a lot in Baltimore. He always seemed very driven in his field. He loved being the center of attention. Knowing that it was this person who was the polar opposite of everything, police have been looking for that was what was so jarring. This isn't somebody who shied away from the public. This is somebody who actively went out and tried to get as much attention as possible. Raymond Rowe had defied the profile and escaped detection. He was the literal definition of hiding in plain sight. He had also managed to go nearly three decades without letting word of his crime slip. Or had he. Maybe he did let something slip. But the person hearing it simply didn't understand it at the time. It would have been about 19 98 to 2004. When I was a real regular at this coffee shop, people really got into a lot of interesting conversations there and, you know, you met a lot of people and I met ray at that coffee shop. Mary haverstick was a filmmaker who was born and raised in Lancaster. As an entertainer, she enjoyed meeting others who worked in the performing arts. Raymond Rowe was among those acquaintances. He makes a good impression. He would jump into conversations about the local art scene or what he was up to with his DJ work. He was a very mannerly guy. He was a lot more Clark Kent than a villain. You certainly thought, well, there's a young guy who's really got it together a lot more than maybe other musicians or artists you knew. One evening Mary was at the coffee shop chatting with a few friends. And Rojo and the group. As she recalls, that's when things got interesting. The conversation meandered around to had any of us ever had sewed wild oats or had any wild times in our younger days. Ray confessed, he said, well, I used to be a real little hoodlum. And then of course I'm an interviewer with filmmaker. I go, well, like, come on, right, couldn't have been that bad, but like what? And he got really serious and said, no, like, I really did some things. And then I point blank them. I was like, I'm like, what'd you do? At that moment, there was a call that went over that room. It was like, oh my gosh, I shouldn't have asked that. And I mean, he made a beeline for the door and exited. It was like something went wrong, and then he had to get out of there as fast as he could. I mean, we conjectured, what could it be? And of course we thought, well, you maybe did drugs. Maybe he burglarized something. You know, maybe he was in juvenile detention. None of us could speculate that it would be a murder or that it would be the most brutal murder that ever occurred in Langston county. I mean, that was the furthest thing from our mind. Mary would recall that conversation on the heels of rosa rest in 2018. We were just like, ray road, like, you know, that could be a common name that's probably not him. But the mugshot came across. And it was him. I wonder if there was a part of him that almost wanted to speak of it. He could have just ignored that conversation, said, I don't know. I used to drink or carry on. He could have said something small. But instead, he touched that nerve. And what did the revelation that ray row actually was capable of such brutality sort of shift within you about human nature? Ray was so courtly and mannerly in the way that he conducted himself that it does make you wonder in retrospect if there was a certain wolf in sheep's clothing there. If he wasn't being overly mannerly, overly genteel to keep himself below the radar screen because ray kept it under wraps. And he always was so polite..