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Ep 90 Reconciliation Activist J. Christopher Collins

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Ep 90 Reconciliation Activist J. Christopher Collins

"I've asked some of the together participants. Why do you keep coming back here. And i commonly hear that. Because i'm more hopeful unless dismissive of people's opinions and that is a starting point that is hopeful welcomed midlife. Mix tape the podcast. I'm nancy davis co and we're here to talk about the years between being hip and breaking one. We do belong to me why he and taking this long on listeners. This is nancy davis co host of the midlife mix tape podcast and author of the book. The thank you project cultivating happiness one letter of gratitude at a time. Valentine's day is coming. And if you're thinking oh great yet. Another holiday in captivity. May i suggest a way to make it. Stand out from every other sunday since last march right your valentine your gallon thein or your valentine a gratitude letter for all the ways. They've improved your life and handed over along with a copy of my book. You can find the. Thank you project in bookstores online or for audio download and here's some incentive. If you buy the book and you're planning to give it to your valentine email me at dj at midlife. Mix tape dot com. Tell me who you're giving the book to and mail you a personalized book. Play to stick inside. Valentine's day solved now. Let's get back to real romance by which. I mean rewatching brereton. Hi everyone and happy. Twenty twenty one You know if you listen to episode eighty nine at the end of last year. That i needed a bit of personal time off after the death of my mom in december. I just wanted to start off this episode in this year by thanking all of you who reached out to check in on me and express condolences. It was It was a rough go as frankly was appropriate and even once i started feeling better. I really couldn't exhale until after inauguration. Day but i found that once january twentieth was behind me. I was actually feeling inspired and excited about the chance to talk to someone for the podcast and in particular. Today's guest jay. christopher collins. Chris is a native texan and the founder of the difference together project at glide memorial church in san francisco his also. The author of the new book mending are union healing our communities courageous conversations upon graduating from saint edwards university. In austin texas. Chris was recognized with the presidential award. Which is the highest honor given to students who have demonstrated excellence and leadership academics and service to the community. After twenty seven years in texas. Chris moved to new york and earned his masters of public administration and public policy analysis at nyu robert f wagner graduate school of public service and now lives in san francisco with his wife. So let settle in for a courageous conversation with chris. Welcome to the midlife. Mix tape podcast. Jay christopher collins. I'm so pleased to have you here today. High nancy. thanks so much for having me well. Listeners will know that. I have taken a bit of a pause in doing the show at lost my mom in december If anybody has gone through a loss like that you know that it takes a little while for you to feel like yourself again. I'm not quite back yet. But i was kind of trusting that the universe would put a guest in front of me. That would make me wanna put the headphones back on and have another conversation. So when i read about your book chris as like. That's it that's that is the energy. I wanna start twenty twenty one with on. I'm excited to talk about your book. Mending are union healing communities through courageous conversations. Because that it's top of mind right now. But i chris the question we always ask on this show. What was your first concert in. What were the circumstances. My first concert was willie nelson willy nelson at stubb's barbecue in austin texas from austin right. Yeah i went to. I'm i'm from. Texas went to college. In austin and stubb's barbecue is on Is in downtown. And it's a great music. Venue added a young age introduced me to old country like willie nelson ernest. Tubb johnny cash. I definitely grew up with that old steel guitar country sound and while i was in college at saint edwards university in austin Willie plays in austin all the time. I called my dad and said hey well he's playing what you come down and logos. Am and he said okay came down. We went to the concert. Together was the first time i had been around my any of my parents with the smell of marijuana in the air that go it was it was good. It was fine another step into adulthood. I think that's right willies. Great i love one of the things i love about him is that he. It's obviously a family employment situation. He's got all his family members up playing with him. And i think it's so sweet like i think that might be a big part of the reason he makes music. There is a strong sense of joy. You can see in his eyes and his face when he's when he's up there he's he's one of the great legends of our time and Everyone in texas loves willy. And somehow he's been able to be this progressive voice a very conservative state supporting dennis kucinich bernie sanders for president yet Everyone across the political spectrum loves him and he somehow figured out something. I think we need to tap into something we can. we can learn from. We're gonna talk more about the way that people can bridge the gap that way but you do your work under the affiliation of glide memorial church which is a nationally recognized center for social justice in its dedicated to fighting systemic injustices creating pass way out of poverty in crisis and transforming lives what i love about glide though is it's the only church i know that it has conducted a youtube arrest which is based on the music of you to have you ever gone to that service. No that was before my time. But i know that That bano is a big fan of glide and cease a williamson generic. Tiny the founders. And i hear people reflect on those days but Unfortunately i was before i came around to glide well when concerts start again when band start. Touring again If you to comes to town. I'm guessing they'll come by glide and do another youtube grist so your book came out in january. It's called many are union healing communities through courageous conversations. And it's based on the work that you've done through a program called different together as mentioned as part of a part of the programming glide memorial church. So let's just start by hearing about different together. What is it and why did you decide to start. It will take you back to the days following the two thousand sixteen presidential election. Must you must start. That way is better than the two thousand twenty election go ahead. Donald trump had just been elected and I was shocked by the outcome and Also really realizing that. I was out of touch with tens of millions of people with americans who who voted for him despite all of the red flags that came up during his campaign and in those days following the election. I wanted to do something. I knew i needed to do something but i didn't know what that was and I was standing on the street and san francisco one afternoon and An older white woman approached me and said kind of under her breath. I do not say anything in this town. But i'm glad that he won. And i've resisted the temptation to be dismissive But i chose to go into this conversation. I said we'll why is that. And she said that the the election wasn't about race race issue isn't as bad as it was in the nineteen sixties and. I said well you know. It's not really up to us as white people to decide whether it's better or worse we need to listen to the people who experience it and see what they have to say and the conversation went back and forth for just a few moments and we parted ways and we wished each other well and it was really a pleasant conversation considering the topic but i walked away realizing that there is power in these connections and that there is power in disagreement in sharing different perspectives and challenging each other and i felt relieved that i was able to communicate with someone that i strongly disagreed with and wanted to do more of this so from that. Interaction was born the different together project at glide and we've been meeting regularly with conservatives both in the bay area and across the country since the beginning of twenty seventeen and it has transformed me the way that i view this topic the way i view other people as well as the people who who participate regularly in it now i want to ground this in the fact that you are a straight six gender white man and i am a straight six gender white woman and we both operate from a baseline of privilege. Even though we're here talking you know even as we're talking about reconciliation mending. What would you say to someone who says these are two privilege white folks telling us how to fix disunity in this country when so much of the disunity is so by people who look just like us like here comes some white folks again to tell us how to make things better. I would completely agree with that. I think that bridge building is a hobby for for people that are not discriminated against It's it's a luxury to be able to do. Bridge building work Because i don't have as much at stake in these difficult conversations as say a black person does or a another person of color or trans person or a gay person. Disagreements might hurt my ego but they don't hurt my soul like it would be if someone were to challenge an immutable characteristic of of my skin. Color or Who i love so what. I think that the bridge building work can do for white straight says. Gender people is to develop the skills to to open our hearts to people who don't have the luxury are more hesitant to join into bridge building conversations and I talk about in the book. Mending mending are union. I bring up the plato's parable of the of the cave where people are chained up in a cave and they can see on the wall. One person breaks free and actually goes out of the cave and explores the world and sees what these images are these these these things that were creating the the shadow on the wall and how that just completely transforms you into seeing the world as it is rather than just seeing seeing the shadows. I challenge The readers to evaluate whether whether we are seeing the shadows on the wall or we are breaking free from these narratives that we live and going out and exploring the world with curiosity and trying to Understand people and understand their stories understand their values how they came to the beliefs that they now hold so i think that There's there's a big opportunity for the for the white straight six gender community to really begin to make some headway on this and not necessarily just an opportunity but an obligation i would. I would say you know what mean the fact that we can it as a situation or a conversation we opt into by choice says everything you know in reading the book. I mean i've had this feeling before but it just solidified this feeling for may that it's work that needs to be done precisely because it doesn't impact us as much and i have to say you know coming into this. I obviously the two thousand sixteen election was terrible. I would say twenty twenty one even worse even if we can you know the outcome made me happy. I think part of why this book appealed to me is. Because i'm so i do feel so angry. I do feel so angry. At what i saw on january six and the fact that there are so many people who are on the other side of this divide. And i know that anger isn't productive. Anger isn't gonna fix things and in reading the book. I have felt so skeptical honestly. Chris i was like. How could i have a conversation with somebody who voted to take away marriage rights for people who i care deeply about who happened to be gay or are elevating a leader who is clearly racist. And how like. Why do i have to have a conversation with that person. And after reading your book. I thought it's it first of all it made me feel like. Wow maybe there could be a productive maybe there could be changed and it also comes from a place of wanting to be a compassionate person in wanting to be someone who is willing to listen. I think i've gotten worse at that. In for years i really do. I think i've been guilty of putting people in boxes and putting labels on people as much as anyone and so. I really appreciated that. Your book gave very actionable ways to unlock ourselves from those kinds of limitations. And i would say your mom was right. It was good that you put in a lot of stories in the book. Chris talks about how his mom read the first draft And she said you gotta put in more stories of how it worked but Actually had bruce feiler was one of my guests in episode. Ada to the podcast and this is what we talked about. How the proper response to a setback as a story and how telling a story about what we go through gives us power over it. Kind of helps us through it and i really felt like the stories. What major book sing. So what. I would want to know if i hadn't read the book yet. Is how does different together. Actually work like walk me through. How the program works that. People can understand where this possibility is. I want to go back to one. One thing that you said That was a ramble. You can tell. I haven't been on the front cast for six weeks. I'd like. oh words they all wanna come out all at once. Sorry you mentioned Being angry and that certainly something that is felt universally i think across the political spectrum right now as and one something that i feel very strongly as well. Anger is a source of energy. And i think that we can tap into it for productive purposes For me practicing mindful self. Compassion has a been transformative In allowing me to tap into that and No longer am. I a prisoner to the anger that previously simmered in my body I now can use anger to fuel my desire to build peace and to make valuable change In my community and not only does that connect me with other people of of goodwill it grants me the opportunity to challenge beliefs that I oppose and leaves leaves the conversation open for for future conversations and that is how the process of a different together meeting works. We start every meeting going through a list of group agreements. Like be sure to listen. Speak respectfully it's okay to show emotions just not to do so. In a way that diminishes somebody else speak from your own experience. Don't use broad generalizations of other people things like that and we focus on exploring a topic rather than debating topic. I think that debate is a concept that humans have used for thousands of years to talk about the tough questions of of our day. But that has been the only thing that we have been using. I think that we are missing. Opportunities to explore deeper because debate is about about winners and losers debate is a performance. It's a it's a. It's a tactical Game that we play where. We're not necessarily exploring truth when we debate. We are looking to be victorious and win and that winning might mean dismissing the truth it also might mean character assassination so different together works to not debate but to explore and to try to find a deeper sense of of truth and we tried to incorporate stories and values to help accomplish that goal. One of the stories in the book. That really stuck with me was a conversation you talked about through the program where one of the small group small groups that were meeting. There was a trump supporter and there was a trans woman meredith and on the surface of it. That conversation did not go well. The the small group came back to the larger the larger different together conversation and it didn't appear that the conservative person had really heard what meredith was trying to share. Meredith felt like she had not been heard. And i guess what struck me was that the impact of that conversation wasn't immediate but it might have been the first step toward real learning and mirror. That meredith talked about the fact that she recognized through that conversation that she needed to present her story differently that she could strengthen the way she shared her story so that other people could feel could relate to it more and i wondered whether the conservative guy i think is he. Was dan right whether you know the next time. Dan meets a trans woman. And he i believe said he had never had before maybe next time he will think of this conversation. He had with meredith and be more open and so it just reinforced for me. How some of these. I mean it's a long game. It has taken a long time for us to get this divided and these conversations each one is just like a little ripple in the pond. But you don't know where that ripple can go and what good that ripple can do any and so it's it's kind of a plea for patients and perseverance in having these tough conversations. Yes i i was concerned About that conversation. I go into detail about the book of what was going on in my head as the moderator of this conversation thinking oh my god you really to think on your feet. I mean holy smokes. National everything shifting around you as you're moderating all of these it can be tough but i think that we're all going through this and trying to learn how to do it. This is not something that we as a society have as a skill set. And i think that at that moment i i told the group. I don't really know what to do here. But the words of dr king came to mind he. The words he wrote in the letter from birmingham jail. He said i'm not afraid of the word tension. There is attention that is that is necessary for growth. And i reminded the group of of that concept that if we are meeting and we sense the tension we see the tension we pull back the curtain of our society than that alone is doing the work now whether we leave all feeling good and happy. That's not necessarily going to going to happen at all of these meetings because we're divided and we. We have a lot of work to do so. I think that the courage that meredith had to to share her story and to do so an environment where she knew that she was not among like minded people. I think is incredible. And i don't think that meredith will necessarily see the impact that she has made right Now what dan experience from that. I don't know whether that made a lasting impact or impression on him. I don't know and meredith may never know but it's about not necessarily what we can see that we're doing but are we moving. The ball are we. Are we advancing. Compassion are at least pulling back the curtain and sitting with the tension that exists in our society. Or do we sweep it under the rug and ignore it like we have For centuries so. I think what what meredith did an allowed us to do is to experience the discomfort debt that she must live with everyday and what i liked about. The book mending are union. So that i talked about how the first half really has a lot of stories about how this program has worked in practice. Also how you started it when you were. You kinda said i'm going to do this thing. Oh no i just said it was going to do this thing which i love all like yeah take a big step that you have no idea what you're doing. We all know that that could work out. Great but the back half of the book has really practical steps and you talk about four steps to healing division. Could you talk just fairly quickly. About what those steps are while i think vet before we really start to think of building bridges really starts within so the the first couple of steps are what are we doing a selves. What are we doing to build ourselves up to having conversations because the bridge building process doesn't start with going and talking to your brother or an uncle or an aunt someone you're close to our best friend about the division it too much stake in those in those conversations so we start the work within and it can start by listening to podcasts that have different perspectives Reading books on on my website. I list Many of the books that i've read to help me with that process of opening up end and exploring different ideas that are not part of my living experience and then to get engaged with people to start practicing the skills of of talking but do that with strangers there are organizations out there that are ready to help you do that like different together or living room. Conversations braver angels and then began to bring these conversations face to face not online not through texting or social media but we can see a person even through video or in person. Yeah i love the idea of starting to have those difficult conversations with strangers. Because you know you think of thanksgiving and how fraught i mean. Maybe it was always fraud. But it's really bad in an election year and to have had some of those practice conversations first so that you can go in with a sense of confidence in a sense of. I know how this might go. That's a relief. And i think would allow people to actually digest their thanksgiving dinner instead of being sick about it. The whole the whole month of november. So it's january. You guys we can work on this as we roll up and maybe we can even be there in person without masks. A girl can hope one day one day yet. Your website jay. Christopher collins dot com and the book both include great resource lists of books and podcasts and You know i. I definitely skewed towards never listening to conservative media so there were some other. I have never heard of that. I should check that out. So that is the challenge for myself to try to listen to some of those shows and read some of those also while lessening noticing. What what's happening in your body noticing the reaction that your physical body has to hearing something you find. Objectionable that is that is another one of these Aspects of preparing yourself for for these conversations that is important that noticing when you said the phrase because this is how. My brain is wired. I thought anger is an energy while. Yes that's a public image ltd song featuring johnny light and that's how i feel so in a moment we're gonna come back with jay. Christopher collins to talk about his own midlife reconciliation. i a break for our sponsor. Hey there join me. This coming thursday february fourth at six. Pm pacific nine pm eastern time for zoom conversation with my dear friend and past midlife mixed guest. Other k j dillon. Tonia should say my dear friend. A best selling near times author k j because her debut novel the chicken sisters which came out in december went immediately to the top of the fiction bestseller. List reese witherspoon selected for her book club the same month. I am pretty cherise. Optioned it for movie. But that's a question i'm going to ask. Hey jay this thursday so thanks to a great good place for books here. In oakland i'll be interviewing k. J. via zoom and you can join in for free wherever you're sitting on the globe. Look for the link to the event on the events tab on the midlife mix tape facebook page or go to great good place for books. That's gdp books dot com as in great good place for books. Gdp books dot com for slash event. Three generations to chicken shacks one recipe for disaster booklets. Called the chicken sisters an utter delight from start to finish. And i hope. You'll tune in for my discussion with k j on thursday february fourth at six. Pm pacific. we're back with jay. Christopher collins author of mending are union healing communities through courageous conversations. And i wanna talk to you about your own midlife reconciliation and by that. I mean. I was struck in reading the book. By the fact that you're old enough to have spent formative time on both sides of the political divide. You are a young texas republican working for rick perry and then later you were a slightly older democrat working for house majority leader steny hoyer and i'm wondering how you think that being what we call in the years between being hip and breaking one how that made it possible for you to reimagine yourself as a reconciliation activist. Because i'm guessing that's a new job title. I don't think that there's not a huge section on lincoln for reconciliation activists job listings. I don't know anyone else. That has that title. I think that's a good. That's a good observation trademark. Starting something new is surrounded by for me. The strong sense of failure It's so for me. it's not about what i can accomplish in my life. It's it's about. How far i can carry the ball down the field before it's time to pass it off to the next generation and as i said earlier we may never see the fruits of our labor labor when it comes to something like healing division and in mending are union. Talk about how. It may take hundreds of years for this process to bear fruit. You talk about the sri lankan example which i thought was so interesting. Do you mind sharing that. There is a sorry dove movement and entry lanka that that put together a five hundred year peace plan and the leader of this movement said it took five hundred years for us to become mired in a bloody civil war and it's going to take at least that much time to come out of it and that plan the five hundred year peace plan talks about economic development talks about cross cultural conversations and i look at the united states and how long it has taken for us to get to be this divided. So maybe we need our own five hundred year peace plan and that sounds really daunting but maybe we are a hundred fifty years into it from the beginning of reconstruction after our own civil war and yes. The the pendulum has has swung back and forth. And sometimes it feels like we're going backwards but it's about in my lifetime. How much can i do to embarrass the ball to to move the 'cause down the field not to Whenever i'm in my seventies or eighties look back and say wow look we did it but getting it to the point where it's ready to pass off to the next generation so with that perspective it. It helps me to reassess what i can do in my lifetime to promote healing and promote peace. And that if we stick with this work we may make a a meaningful impact. It's almost like being in midlife. You have a little bit more. Realistic goal setting. You know that you're not you know when you're in your twenties and you think everything is open every was open. I can do everything i wanna do. And then by the time. You've you've made it to your forty s and fifty s in your banged up a little bit. You're like i'm gonna make some progress. And i'm gonna feel good about that and i'm probably not getting to the finish line but still it's progress. Yes would you say that's true. Yes and I also saying the book that. I think we can see that. Dr king in his last speech knew that he was not going to see the the fruits of his labor. I think that he knew that the end was near for him and yet he kept on doing what he knew he needed to. Do you know a friend of mine was recently talking about hope he was referring to amanda gorman speech at the inauguration which that elevated me that was my church service for the month of january but he was talking about how hope when it's expressed by young people is especially powerful. And i wondered if you midlife. Hope has any special magic. So is there anything special about people in their forties and fifties taking a run at this work of mending our communities and believing that that's possible that has anything magical to it because we could be jaded. Yes i i do hear a lot of jaded commentary around this work from people at at midlife like whoa. What is the point of all of this. Like there's no. I'm not talking to those people as people from both sides of the of the spectrum. And i think that the reason to do it is to to face face with these opinions and beliefs that we find objectionable puts a human face to it. And whenever there's a human face to it def wait. We psychologically experienced that differently than whenever we read it on a page or hear someone. An elected officials speak of it on tv. Having one on one personal connection with that connects us as humans and it makes us more likely to see that person as a human rather than it or an enemy and that's not a solution. That's the beginning of a process and i think that it awakens this sense of hope in people that a youthful sense of hope that that something something big is possible with this and i've asked the different together participants wide. He keep on coming back here. And i commonly hear that because i'm more hopeful unless dismissive of people's opinions and that is a starting point. That is hopeful. That's great i. If you guys are all full up on hope in january twenty twenty one good on you but if not chris where can people find your book and become engaged in the work. That you're promoting mending are union is available just about anywhere. You can buy a book amazon barnes and noble bookshop dot. Org if you wanna go. The local bookstore route love our local bookstores. just call them up and tell them to order it different together. We meet monthly online The coronavirus has taken us to zoom. Which is something we've wanted to do Before the coronavirus just forced our hand to do it now. We can include anybody across the country. Who wants to do this work. Sign up by going to glide dot org slash different together or just sending me an email at collins. Jay christopher at g. dot com and i'll include links to all of these in the show notes. Uk's can check it out there as well. So chris we always ask one last question. What one piece of advice do you have for people younger than you or do you wish you could go back and tell yourself to be curious. I look at how much good has come in my life. Because of curiosity the the constant drive to learn to grow into absorb knowledge. How curiosity also fuels the desire to heal division at to learn about someone else's story and one of my favorite quotes from eleanor roosevelt. As do one thing every day. That scares you I started different together. I my written mending are union behind this. There's a lot of fear and Maybe something you know about. You've written a book. Started a podcast. These are these are fine it is. We're what were we thinking and At each phase. I found that my fears were unfounded. and then it's then it's onto the next stage of fears and those fears are unfounded in each time my my comfort zone increases and that has awakened a sense of endless possibility. So if we. I just feel if we approach life curiosity and leaning into discomfort fear. It's pretty amazing. What what what can happen in our lives and if only we don't own that earlier right yes. I could have used the advice few years ago. I know but this is. This is the good stuff about getting older. You get you get the keys to the kingdom of wisdom rights. That's absolutely true. well jay. Christopher collins author of mending are union healing our communities through courageous conversations. You guys can find it online at your local bookstore. Thank you so much for coming on the show. It's really important work. And i hope as we go into twenty twenty one we all recognize the steps that we can take to advance the ball down the field for more just and fair society and less stressful next presidential election. That's just me. That's my wish. Thank you so much. For being on the show chris thank. You have really enjoyed this. I hope christie's encouragement to stay curious. Resonates with you. We can all play a part larger small in moving the ball down the field and fixing all the things that are broken this country. And i would say it's not just that we can but we're obligated to. I hope this conversation at least makes you hopeful that those small healing conversations might add up over time speaking of healing conversations. I wondered if you listeners. Think well after a year of the pandemic that's it. i'm ruined for public circulation. Is that just me. I really think that sometimes my entire wardrobe these days is adult onesies from the gap and then over that. I put a long sweater like be arthur. I mean it's not my best. Look and yet i go out in public like that all the time with my mask because i figured nobody knows who i am anyway but really i mean in all seriousness. I wonder sometimes if we've been at this shelter in place along that we may have gotten out of the habit of interacting even with the people we know in love. So i'm excited to talk to my guest for the next show. Laura tremaine who's written a book called sherry your stuff ten questions to take your friendship to the next level. I need some new questions for my friends. Besides do you know whether cvs gotta restock of toilet. Paper diva mass. That you don't hate what is time. Join me next time and lauren. I will talk about what questions we can ask. That will make a sound functional again until then stay healthy me down give would have do on the stall us back on again. I'm going to need three. Had the means with you want from me be a. I won't be.

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Rural populations resurgent due to immigrant growth + Kliff Kingsbury will be a NFL G.O.A.T.

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They say we're all round the subtext is all re rule and we do roll along broadcasting from the racer car wash studios your host, Jay west, Texas, Leeson playing through the pain. I'm I'm playing through the the flu flu like symptoms to be here with you right here on the other side a little nauseous at times saying two and three and four of the same things at a time. But it set Tommy year in glad to be here. Wouldn't miss it right here in racer car wash studios. Lubbock s- best wash for five years. Is running stop into one of five. Convenient locations across up city. Four the best wash around guaranteed. Check him out your best location there at racer wash dot com. Show ahead is a good show ahead. Christopher Collins from the Texas observer writing a piece that peaked the Lahti interests across the state, there are communities rural communities that are resurging in there. There's a resurgence in their population and its dude immigration that conversation with Christopher Collins coming up about ten minutes from now when then we've got Travis Tali of Mon Horton Brown with some sound legal advice. I know of big demographic that listens show is thirty five to fifty five. You may not know what you need to have to be legally protected. Travis Telia began to talk to us about that. Especially on the wheel side. Done. Your will anything can happen, man. Get all just end pretty quickly this where I'm going to start though. I want to submit to you. This bold prediction. Are you ready for a bold prediction here on the other side? This is my bold prediction. I'm not asking you to go wager a bunch of money on it. But I do have a take it to the. Lays gentleman cliff Kingsbury will be one of the greats full-time in the NFL. He will be one of the greatest of all time in the NFL. And you Mark that down on this date. When I brought it to you here. January seventeen the Europe are lured two thousand nineteen. Cliff Kingsbury is going to be a goat in the NFL. Now, I didn't interview about this with the L know if you're familiar with the Texas standard to good Natia nationally nationally of Texas is a nation. It's a statewide program. They contacted me about this. But I thought I would bring it up now to tell you why I think that cliff Kingsbury has the pedigree look away from the record look away from the record in look to something that matters more in. It's the evidence of what you're saying play out on the field now, and I'll begin with this. I don't know. And I don't mean to dismiss Andy Reid head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. I don't know what the ratings are for the chiefs in Lubbock. But I bet they rival the numbers of the Cowboys with people who tune in to those games. That started somewhere that niche that recruited Patrick Mahomes in new that Patrick Mahomes in some of this predates cliff Kingsbury, I get it. But Neil Brown air raid offense in Lubbock. There's somebody knows the thing or two about the way that the NFL's trending in its cliff Kingsbury now Kingsbury, of course, worked his way into the NFL in played with a guy. And that guy's name was Bill Bill Bella check that too. And backed up Tom Brady he knows a guy named Danny amendola. Another guy named Wes Welker several others. He has connection with. But also just part of that Mike Leach coaching tree. That coaching tree that's beginning to dominate the NFL. Now Baker Mayfield head has choice of where he wanted to walk on each shows, Texas Tech for reason a Patrick Mahomes. There's a new excitement that's offsetting all the hullaballoo in the NFL right now. And it is that may filled that put Mahomes above Mayfield for sure. But what may Mayfield can't just flinch it what he did in Cleveland this year? It is impressive. Patrick Mahomes are Mahomes sun helmet arrived at the lease and Ponderosa day. The boys all wanted to put it on and run around and said, nobody is putting the helmet on. We wanted at a bidding auction after the game the ticks tick basketball game last Saturday and the boys were really excited to have it arrive. This is his MVP season. Nobody's wearing this in. Mark my words within the next nine months. It will be in the backyard in the toy toibin, and I will be ashamed at the price. I paid for it. But it'll be there with a Bob Knight signed basketball that's worn out the Mike Leach football that's worn out. It'll be there in the ass heaps of Leeson childhood. He's history. But. Excuse my voice, again playing through the pain here on the other side with you. But here's my deal. Is it Steve time in believe? That's how you pronounce his last name K E. I M he recruited one Sean McVeigh when McVeigh was with the Washington Redskins. And then. Go fast forward. He thought that he could land McVeigh, but his coach their Nares ONA state another year, and then McVay wound up going to the LA Rams now McVeigh allot in the vein. Kingsbury McVeigh revolutionaries in how they see the game like the. They are the forty Niners of the nineteen nineties in the two thousand eighteen the Bill Walton's as Bill Walton thanked check that for me. But anyway mic Steve com had McVay in his sights in its Stame. Steve kind who went out and got cliff Kingsbury. Arizona struggled this year three and thirteen. Now, they have the number one overall pick in the draft in that becomes a matter will take collar Murray of oh, you this is your sports edition of other side at Texas or will they stick with Josh Rosen and let Kingsbury coach him up which he's been able to prove. Now, the question becomes it's this question of well, he did poorly at Texas Tech poorly enough to affectively get fired. But let's compare apples and oranges, shall we? A college football coach. Coach must. Produce a management of the overall program of the business as it were. And then the playbook on the field and cliff Kingsbury, certainly I would not argue with those who say that he struggled with that. He certainly did. And I don't I don't I don't take it upon anybody to manage that kind of program to be essentially an athletic director without the title, and then have to manage hundred young men in what they choose to do on the weekends. As well. The hundred or so young men who you've you've recruited. But in the NFL their executives who get paid. To manage the organization, and who do the recruiting your only job is to implement the playbook in and make sure that the play books being executed on the week to week basis. Oh, and by the way, you get a lot more money. I think in that environment cliff Kingsbury in we'll hear a minute or two from here. I think he will thrive not just survive, but will thrive in NFL. Here's some comments. He made in his introductory press conference, Michael and I like to thank the Bidwill family as well. And then Steve time and the entire quarter cardinals organization for this incredible opportunity. Even though I grew up in Texas. I actually Cama cardinals fan in high school when they drafted Jake plumber. I was a big Jake plumber fan the way he played his style of play. And then it rolled right in the Kurt Warner. What an incredible story. He was to have a man he was what he gave back to this community, and it's still giving and then came. Carson Palmer who actually got to know in the senior bowl who I think the world of the run he had here was fantastic and followed that closely. And then of course, Pat saleman what a legendary name my father here today, rape, interviewing my agent and his wife. So thank you all for coming. But my father was a foam, rain and purple heart recipient. And so we've always had a great appreciation military in our family and to learn the legend of Pat Tillman to hear that story has always been very inspiring in my life, and then to the current roster with Larry FitzGerald as a coach what a great role model for me to to tell my college players say this is the guy that does it right all the time on and off the field. The way handles themselves wanted to play that intro for you. Because it's not just a matter of of cliff meeting Xs and os, you see all the spots. He's hitting on the board resonating with the people in this is the people's club. And pat. Tillman in Larry FitzGerald in going through. Even Carson Palmer. He's gonna be a goat. You mark. My words he's gonna be a goat. And if you hate when I have to say, it's J other side of Texas. You can text in program eight oh, six seven four five fifty eight hundred. But I think that cliff Kingsbury will be a goat. We got Christopher Collins coming up interview with him about the resurgence of rural community stick right with us. Big program ahead. Glad you're with us here on the other side. I some. All the stars of this guy. So. Jags. Did an interview with Christopher Collins texts. Observer a covers rural issues with the Texas observer and was glad to have his inaugural debut on the program. This is how the interview win oak. Enjoy it. Hey, we hear a lot about rural decline rural Texas decline redistricting here in a couple of sessions is going to center around decline in certain places growth and other places, but in some rural panhandle communities, they're not shrinking in fact, they're growing a crisper Collins with the texts observer done the piece about this about January three it's made the rounds. And I've seen pop up several times saw it would be good time to have them on the program. Christopher how were you? I'm good jab at yourself. We are rolling along buddy. As we do. Let's talk about some places in which you went and saw. Well, what got you thinking about the story? Let's start there. Yeah. So the center for American progress they had compiled census data and done a lot of crunching on those numbers. And at least report at some point last year that examined the the demographics and really granular way in communities across the nation. It wasn't just Texas Centric report. But I I got a hold of some of the some of the data in spreadsheets and things they used in that report. And so what I thought it was pretty interesting trend which was that and some rule communities, especially up towards the top of the panhandle and into the Oklahoma panhandle, and then then into Kansas. Also, there were communities smaller towns whose who had lost population on the the Anglo side, generally the native side, but generally generally lost Anglo population. However. Their populations had risen actually since nineteen ninety because of a growth in the immigrant population. And I it just made me curious. You know, these aren't towns that are dying franking. These are actually towns that are getting bigger and it's due to immigrants. You know? I want to know what that looks like, you know, what does that mean for community? How did they get transformed? Because of that, you would set you off on a course in you start off in del heart. Tell us what's going on in del art. And I was really I was really surprised. About Dell heart. I went up there with one of my colleagues gust Bova who writes about immigration for the observer, it is also fluent in Spanish, which was really important for this story. We went up there, and it is just not. What people think of is some are title rural Texas town like the sleepy little place. You know, we're not much happening. This place is just a buzz with activity. I mean, there's traffic at least even you know at midnight. When am there's still trucks on the road. There's cows being hauled the gas stations open twenty four seven, you know, the two told him you guys have up there in the panhandle. And there's just a lot going on it. It's as far as I can tell it's a prosperous really colorful busy place, and I found that really surprising. Actually, it's not what I thought was going to was going to happen. You know or listeners especially in the immediate area dalhart up in the north western part of the panhandle. Crossroads of fifty four three eighty five eighty seven a busy place. None the less, but abuzz with activity in win is it most the buzz cr-. Christopher collins. Well, when we were there, you know, there was during the day. You know, there's there's traffic a lot of Wichita agricultural or industrial cattle trailers semis that type of deal in the daytime. But we actually started this story with the bit of activity at nighttime guests, and I we went out to the potato for Larson farms and trailed some immigrant workers talked to him about the job and saw the type of work that they do. So even at you know, one A M two AM, you know, there's trucks going everywhere, there's all this activity. You know, thousands and thousands of millions of potatoes being Harvard bit so day or night. You know, there's there's stuff happening. And it's thanks to those things that a really a really good and really strong agricultural economy that they have up there, you know in between. Ios accord or fragile can't be harvested during the day. So they're doing a lot of that at night. That's what we were told by the potato expert. I didn't do any potato research, you know, before heading up to del heart. I did not know I didn't know that's a crop. We were going going to encounter. Well, we did apparently huge industry up there. Yeah. Yeah. I think different forms have different ropes. But that seemed to be what Larson farms was following there. So you go out to see this in rural dalhart in them. Where else do you go? You know, that's really that's really about the only place that we went. We did see we did see those population changes reflected, you know, another town's just because of that census data. That's that's really that's really where we went. I into story. I pulled in a few other examples of some reporting. I'd done rural towns that are dying. But the right. This is basically focused on Dell hearts, but I think I think it stands to reason in front of some of the other interviews I did with county judges and other area officials and expert this is probably pretty close to what's going to be happening. And some other towns, such as Sunray demoss, I believe Hartley was one of those that had lost native population but had actually gained population because of because of immigrants come into the area to live. So it's happening in kind of a belt across the north. The very top part of the panhandle. Yeah. This resurgence thin of pop. Right. Yeah. That's the way to put it. So how does that? Then. What kind of other problems? I mean, economic speaking probably boats will or does it boat. Well, what are some other? This isn't just started. It's been happening. So as you talked with people, what was their reaction on change in tone for better for lack of better words, their place. You know, I guess it depends on who you ask really? The the mayor in dalhart, he he's very he's very happy about the change at their happening. You're right. It has been happening for it doesn't jets. This isn't just now happening, but but he's he's very pleased because you know, as immigrants come they can fill those those spots for labor that are needed. Whether that's at the Dareez, whether that's at the farms driving truck to take goods from one place the other. And of course, that economy can't function without workers. So he he's very happy. Other people with the city are happy. The immigrants appear to be happy to be there. You know, it's they're making compared to what they could get elsewhere a good wage or these or these more Margaret oriented immigrants were what countries are the sing the most immigration from. Right. So many of them are from Mexico and from Guatemala. However, interestingly, there's a apparently also sizable population is South African immigrants. I'm not exactly sure why but did there for the most part, though, Mexico and Central America. In a lotta that, I think is due to the feds placing people in Amarillo in on the North's name roll, especially with I forty. There's a in normal in believe you guys have written about this foreign enormous immigrant community in Morello. Oh, I I take your word for it. No high. So maybe some growth out from Amarillo into more rural areas on the South African front. It's certainly possible. I mean, I I know that, you know, here where I live in Abilene, you know, an in another cities that aren't the biggest cities in Texas, but also not small probably have a lot more immigrants living in people know, so I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt it at all that there's at least some relationship there between what's happening in Amarillo what's happening to little farther north. You know, what the Christopher Collins with the Texas observer with us here. The title of the piece is these rural panhandle towns should be shrinking that thanks to immigrants there booming. A couple of other takeaways that you had here in the story. Christopher. Well, you know, I think I think one of the most important things one of the maybe maybe the most interesting thing to look at here or the politics of in the context around the politics here, you know, at as you've written about in the past the panhandle is possibly one of the most interesting areas, politically at least as far as Republicans are concerned because this is one of along with west Texas parts of west, Texas. This is one of the only areas that is really resisting Riveria hard line far. Right. You know movement. The Republican party is where we still have moderate Republicans. You know, we still have or relatively moderate, you know, they have we have can kicking we have four prize kill Seliger people like that at the same time, you know, nationally. They would let me do sooner Jack. They would say that they're conservative that they reflect their constituencies. But you know, it was like this is a story. I always still Christopher. I was in Colorado. We read a pass my wife needed to make a call. So we found the place for her to get out and use your phone. There was an elderly couple that was there and it was right in the middle of sixteen elections in. I'm sorry for this long interjection. But it's just a good story. She says there's an older couple. They're and they're trying to take self the us. It would take a selfie. Can I take picture up you? And they said sure I said where he had from. They said, oh, we're from Amarillo. We're just headed back. And I said, oh, that's great. You guys have some great representation there in Amarillo. And she said, yes, we do win. I said, you know, that Kellegher race is going to be pretty interesting, and she looked at her husband and look back at me and said, we're we're okay with kill. Because he's Republicans occasion. Right. That's exactly what I was. That's that's exactly what I was about to say. I think you're right in that. They would argue they actually aren't moderate that they're they're pretty conservative. And I think that their right to agree on that. I think they're relatively moderate. You know, Cal Seliger is the only one to decide Dan Patrick on dodgers. You know, it can king is been pretty pragmatic on on education for prices great on healthcare. Really? And so I think that's interesting when you combine that with component of these are also county that you'll very heavily for Donald Trump, very heavily for crews to our anti-immigrant. But then we have this very welcoming atmosphere Indo heart of the immigrants coming of them doing these jobs that need to be done for the economy to dry and everybody for the most part is pretty cool with it. And in so squaring. Those different time. Shifting phases of the ideology and trying to figure out. Where that's coming from. And where it goes. I guess is is one of the main takeaways, it's very interesting. Political kind of mixture happening there mixture about the allergies and things on the maybe somebody like you would be better would be better able to explain exactly why that's happening. But I think that's one of the main takeaway who it's kinda use suggests Christopher can blue horrid on that later. But when I I mean for me what I've found in conversations emails calls. I get or dairies there on the front line here on the immigration discussion on you know, I I was talking with dairy owner in the event that just happened to be in lamesa, and he said that he had to confront the the agriculture Commissioner, Texas and him to please stop it with the rhetoric because his he needed that labor force for dairy like a lot of Aries do. Exactly and they needed twenty four seven year round to the nine months visas. No work too. Well for them, you know, well, anything else you got force. Christopher. You know, I I think that's about it. I I would really love it. If people could get online and and read the story on Texas observer dot org numb give their thoughts. Sinon email. I think I think there's something really interesting happening up there at the top of the pan handle at the place that not many people see and unfortunately, not enough people care about. But I think it's I think it's really important, and it's worth paying attention to when you did talk to them about the election. The US Senate campaign been a roared Ted Cruz. Did you get any caveats in that? Did you get? I was with a roar bud or was with cruise. But. Like the immigration lines. I didn't. I don't feel like I don't feel like beta had much name recognition up there. You know? It was pretty much a foregone conclusion that that it was going to go to cruise and the nuances of. Immigration policy. I guess just didn't really come up. You know, we did talk to a local guy there an elderly man who runs a boot shop downtown and his very very pro-trump, and very, you know, for for limiting immigration sooner Dogan's ri-, right, right? The the bootmaker, and what was kind enough to have it in his shop and to show us the various leathers and in the booth that he makes and he's I guess part of maybe the old school of of the panhandle Republicans, and that was just another kind of political perspective that's held up there. But I there definitely are nuances. And it just depends on who you ask, you know. It's I think a lot of people want to put rule, Texas, and the people who are in rural Texas as believing one thing and accepting only one ideology that being really Amodu. But that's just not the case. You know, you know, these these are all individual people with individual feelings, they might agree on some things a lot of things. There's definitely definitely points of disagreement to dig into you know, when Christopher we appreciate you taking Tom again. The name of the piece is these rural panhandle towns should be shrinking. But thanks immigrants there booming. Is there Texas observer, and Christopher I'll say this lots of times people will say something like, well, that's what Christopher says was his lease and have to say like that you're gonna give the leftist center, and I'm gonna give the right of center, but I want you to know, I don't think about it at all in those terms. When people do good work, you need to talk about it. And you really came across something digging through the data and figuring out where there because what we talk about all the time is rural demise in. I'm about to ride expanse extensively on. Why do we continue to talk about this and not do anything about it? But in places where things are happening good things are happening and things are being written about it. We're gonna talk about it on the other side of Texas. So I appreciate you, buddy. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate that. All right. We'll you have a good one. We're gonna get into a break. We'll be right back here on the other side of Texas. Cross battle. Degree in. The sound stones. No. You. Skid interview there with Christopher Collins about to get in with our friend, Travis Tali of Mullen, Horton Brown. But a couple of I said whenever I began the program, I've been under the weather, I'm playing through the pain couple of comments that I wish that taken Christopher Collins on one is any avid listener of this program knows I don't make a lot of excuses for Ted Cruz in the like, I don't think that to be fair. I don't think that there any immigrant. I think that there any illegal alien in. That's what they're trying to offset now to Collins's point. There are a lot of illegals here. So what do you do now in? That's a lot of question that is coming from the dairy industry and some other agricultural sectors in those need to be addressed. List? But I did not take him on there. And in hindsight wish I would have not to take a knock at Christopher Collins. But for clarification on the issue, I'm sure he would have been amicable and engaged it. So I hope you enjoyed that be up on the podcast after the program in studio. Now, we have Travis Tali of Mullin hoard and Brown and Travis when a welcome you out to the program. Thanks for coming out. I think you've got something that a lot of folks my age need to hear. How are you? I'm doing pretty good. How're you doing rolling along? Like, we do raven on here studios were buddy, Holly became famous right here. All right on Saturday. Interesting. Yeah. Had Sunday parties historical marker here things hadn't changed a lot here since he was here. Travis. Oh, I guess not you know, that's through the bay doubt. And. You didn't take it. I appreciate. The station owner will so Travis tell us a little bit about I don't bring people out here unless they're of intrigue to the audience tell us about what you do. And we'll get into it from there while I'm an attorney at Molin Horton Brown and most of my practices devoted to a state planning and probate I do other other things as well. But I would say probably more than fifty percent of its devoted to estate planning probate so breakdown for listeners what probate not me. Okay. So pro betas, and and and short it's really the process where we take property that is owned by someone that has passed away and we distribute it to the beneficiaries of that deceased person's estate and that really is the primary objective appropriate. There's other things that you know, happen in probate as well. But that's really the primary objective of it. Yeah. In that assumes the first part of what you said you work with wills right in the state planning. Right. So, you know. You can you know, a lot of people think that you know, I I don't I don't need a will. Because I don't have an estate, well, that's not necessarily true. I mean, everyone that has property has an estate, and so even if you're middle class lower class, whatever wherever you kinda fall, you do have property and whenever you pass away. If you have a will, you can direct where that property goes in Bob property. We mean, I mean, let's people just think about real estate terms, right? I've got this house or I've got this building commercial, but you're talking about real property and personal property talk about those. So so real property is like, you would think it's real estate and its land minerals things like that personal property is everything else. Okay. And that that's not just things laying around the house that you that you have in your home. It's it's cash. It's your car its business interests. It's, you know, your IRA, whatever that's all more or less designated as personal property gay. And so when. Were you do willingness state planning your designating airs for all those different types of property? Right. So that's the first that's the first thing. I I asked people once I get their general information down as you know, one what kind of property do you have. So I have an idea of what I'm working with with their estate, and then second were you want your property to go? And and so that's the first that's the first thing with a will is we need to know where you want your property to go. Once you pass away the second thing, I asked them as who they want their executor to be. And so one other good thing about a will that, you know, if it's a you get to choose who you want this person to be that handles your affairs whenever you pass away. And that person you name in your wills and executor. And so if you die without a will, you don't obviously you can't choose who that person is your deceased. And so your heirs the ones that choose who that person is in its up to their discretion at that point Reid while in. That's it. You know, the best case scenario if you die without a will as you get all of the air. Of this person's estate to agree to one person serving. But if you can do that if you can do that other than that that generally gets down to people competing as well. I have a prior right to serve because I am closer related or IVA prior right to serve because I'm in the statute. I I have a higher ride, and then that leads to bitterness and things like that. So that's you know, whenever I'm preparing someone's will I generally eliminate some of that by saying, okay? Let's just name one person you get to be the person that decides that and that person's in the driver's seat going forward whenever we probate your will. Yeah. I think every family has this. I mean to me I can think about in our family someone died in. There are people who are still not speaking. Because of a painting done by relative because it was never never helped me with the word executive executed the way it should have been or there wasn't somebody where it was clearly stated this property goes to this person. This is thirty years later, family members who go and spitting balls on ancestry DNA in there. Clearly he'll first cousins, but never speak or maybe even siblings and don't speak. Ryan. We can't eliminate all family problems by having a will. But it certainly does eliminate some of them. You know, what you should do is? You should do your best in them. Bring him on the show. And we'll I'll go Phil Donahue on the thing. We'll get the whole thing straighten out. Yeah. I don't know about that. Okay. That's your legal. Disclaimer, but go, but you know, that's one problem that comes up when someone dies without a will is who's going to be the person that actually handles the probate and who's the one that actually handles the administration who's the one that's taking the property of the deceased person paying their final debts and expenses and then distributing the property. And so, you know, if you name somebody like I said before that person's in the driver's seat going forward, if they wanna serve we can probate your will. And it's relatively easy in Texas to probate a will. I think one misconception a lot of people have that I speak to that don't have wills. Thank you know. I I want to avoid probate pro Bates a bad thing. And I don't want to probate anything. I want a living trust or some of the thing that they heard on the internet or on TV that I need this. Well, that's not necessarily true, generally, we can administer an estate through probate relatively easy. And so if you have a will, you know, not only do we get designate where your property goes. And who's the one that actually gets done? We can do it relatively cheaply compared to if you die without a will. And so that's kind of I think a third major benefit is the cost of it. You know, whenever you die without a will. As I mentioned before the state of Texas has a statute that determines where your property goes. And and so it's not what you would think a lot of people. Think will I I'm married on my property just goes to my wife, that's not necessarily true. They're they're multiple different things that determine where that property goes how it's what whether it's real property or personal property whether it's community or separate property, and I won't go into the specifics of those because that might take a while. But when once you've determined what the property is. And how the family is set up then at that point you can determine who gets what interests, and it's not generally a simple thing. But drives you say you don't have the time in you wouldn't have the time to go through joint tenancy tenancy in common. All these just passed my real estate exam. Try thank you. But you wouldn't have the time to go through all that. But. It makes the case that people should have the time to come in. And do a will to spare all of this. You know, our largest listening demographic is between thirty five and forty five years old on the program. Do you have any quantifiable data that shows how many people in that age group have wills and don't have will? I don't have any quantifiable data on on that. I will tell you that I would be willing to bet that more than half of them. Do not have well probably probably seventy five percent of them. Do not have wills or any state winning five. Yeah. Now, again, I don't have any actual data to support that. But most people don't have wills my boss always tells me, he goes, you know, he always tells us that people that come in that most attorneys had heard at one point most attorneys that know this stuff or should know it they don't have wills. And so if you have a group of people that went to school and learn to this stuff, and they don't have an estate planning portfolio place than certain. Early people that didn't go to law school and learn about it. They may not have it either. Yeah. So but part of what you do as well is putting forward power of attorney if something should happen to you power of attorney over your finances. The also, and that's part of the will right, right? So power of attorney over finances power of attorney over healthcare, and he'll situation the easiest way to kind of that. I always explain to my clients when I sit down with them, as you know, your estate planning is more or less in two parts, you have documents that govern your estate while after your deceased, and you also got documents that governor a state while you're alive. And so the will obviously is what governs your estate when you're deceased you can change that as many times as you want as long as you have capacity before your debt. Okay, while you're alive. You can also execute documents like financial power of attorney and a medical power of attorney and things like that to govern your state while you're living so for inst-. If you know, you get in a car wreck, and you're incapacitated. You can't make medical decisions on behalf on by for yourself. You can designate who that person is you can whether whether it be your mom, your brother, your sister. Maybe you don't trust somebody to do it. You can designate those people and same thing with your financial power of attorney. If you don't have a financial power of attorney where medical power of attorney and you become a mentally incapacitated. Then to govern your affairs. Generally, we have to set up what's call the guardianship and that is expensive and that can be more of a headache than dying without a will. After the fact that. Yeah, we give us an example of how much more expensive it can be dread. So whenever someone whenever someone doesn't have power of attorney, and we have to sit up guardianship for them the person that is incapacitated has to have representation. Okay. They have to have an attorney appointed for them, generally, the court will appoint them, then also the applicant for the guardianship will then have their own attorney. And of course, as you could probably. Imagine when someone is fighting over stuff whenever someone dies, certainly when mom or dad or grandfather grandmother or incapacitate everybody lost everybody will use up and everyone wants to take care of them. And most people have good intentions, but just because they have good intentions doesn't mean they're always going to agree. And so then you're gonna have a lot of infighting. Will you can avoid a lot of those problems. If you just have a state planning documents that governor estate while you're living such as a financial and medical power of attorney in. So you can without the wheel thing. And I think that's where we're coming around. We need to track. We need to Travis Tali to get there will stuff done Brown is joins us here. But you might have a state that's worth ten thousand dollars. But you go in and you wall, you're up, and you got to spend eight thousand dollars to get that ten thousand ride in every inconsiderate Travis. That's all I'm saying inconsiderate die without a will or right. It's everybody else in the position. We're using all these daytime talk show. But the Maury Povich situation where everybody's just going to go make an ass themselves in they wouldn't have to do that. I mean, they would do it in evidently, maybe they had too much, whiskey or whatever. But in this circumstance, they that comes to bear. Because the the person died without a will. Yeah. And if again, if you die without a will, you know, this is what happens. Okay. If you die without a will. There's three different ways that we can take property that's in your name and transferred to who's supposed to get it. There's the really cheap way, and and that's called affidavit of airship. And and then, you know, there's there's a small state affidavit. That's the next I guess most expensive or or the next the next step. And then you have the full blown, you know, intestate administration, which is declaration of airship and independent administration. And intestate means you you died without a will. Okay. Go ahead. And so whenever you die without a will. And we have to do the full blown administration. We have to determine who your ears. Are. And so to do that. It's not just hey judge. These are the heirs we know that these are the people that are supposed to inherit. So we're going to give him the property. No. The best way to do. It is we have to have a judge sign off on the fact more or less that these people are the true heirs of the estate, and they do that through a declaration of airship and the DNA tests. Well, you certainly can if that's if that becomes something that you need to do. But the the way it works is you follow your declaration of airship. And you say judge this. We think the airs are. But to check our homework. Let's appoint an attorney at Leiden, which is another lawyer that comes in. And that is appointed by the judge and checks are homework. They call all the people. So now now we're just now you're paying expensive you're paying you're paying two lawyers now because you didn't go will. And that's just the first step. Okay. Okay. Travis. I think that we've got plenty of people scared to death now, Travis Tali, Mon Horton Brown. If people want to contact you tell them how to contact you in then what they can expect the process to be like as they go through it. Okay. Our offices are located at fifteen hundred Broadway. The Wells Fargo building downtown on the seventh floor, but if inland and here in Lubbock, but you know, generally, the the easiest way to reach us is you can call our direct line. And it's our main line it's at eight six seven six five seven four nine one in my Email address is, you know, t- Tali at image B dot com, generally the way this works both Holly, how T O L L E Y K. And so generally the way this works is you know, we set up an appointment. I sit down I walk you through kind of what I do. And I I asked you questions about your property in your estate, and what you have. And then what you wanna do with it? And then toward the end of that concert. I give you a quote of how much that's. Gonna cost. And if you want us to go ahead and prepare the documents, and at that point, you'll be engaged as a client, and I'll prepare the documents. And then you come back in and sign them, and then we're done, and if that's for a state planning, and and for probate, it's it's the same thing. I generally meet with the executor, and that's more of a longer meeting because I have a lot more things. I need to ask the executor whoever's named as the executor of the will. But it's more or less the same type of process, but we set up an appointment and kind of get an action plan and go from there. Hey, don't be the guy does without a will go see Travis Tali home Brown breach coming out Travis. Well, thanks for having me to appreciate it. Yeah. That was a lot more fun than done should be while. I'm glad I can make it fun. Travis Tali check him out there. Molin Orden Brown in the take a quick break. Get back in with you got a couple of things need to riff on. And I'm gonna rip on them hard as we close out this edition of the program. Yes. Gringo? How about our friend big bed? Our friend in Morello, big bad, Jerry Hodge. This is a press release from the Amrullah. From somebody in Amarillo, the sod poodle. Yeah. Amaral Assad poodles that is the name of your we need to have that music up, by the way. Jerry, Hodge just when you didn't think that you could be as cool as Jerry Hodge do fire Francis dot com pullback, Tim million dollars. And then as I've reported put it back in to change the tide there at Texas Tech university, major university in Texas, Jerry, Hodge gets even more cooler than you could ever magin being them real Assad poodles today announced that they have entered into a ballpark naming rights partnership, renaming the home of the sod poodles Hodge town Hodge town. The brand Hodge town encapsulates the idea of a commonplace for the community to gather from all in. Here's the the bureaucratic speech, the gather from all areas throughout the techs pain handle the new ballpark name recognizes and gives thanks to. Other side of Texas legend that I'm inferring. Their Jerry Hodge who led the charge in helping bring the professional affiliated baseball team back to the community. The ending of the name ties in the prairie dog roots. With town defined is a colony of boroughs connecting to form. One large community Hodge who was recently named the two thousand eighteen emerald globe. News man of the year is a family man pharmacist, businessman, civic leader, philanthropist and resin of Amarillo for over sixty years. And may I add overall bad a money money we approached Jerry with this name because he shares the common interests of positively impacting our community in has proven. So over the last fifty years said Tony ins or president and general manager of the emerald Assad poodles this community spearheaded by Jerry had a dream of bringing not just baseball, but professional affiliated baseball back to Morello and now has. Been brought to life. There is no way to honor. There's no better way to honor and recognize his hard work to make the dream. Come true. They in buying cluding. Jerry's name on our home. Our new home. So. Jerry. I don't know where you are. And I don't have any all call on me. But my voice is cracking some playing through the pain. But I do when the say. Wherever you are happy hour. Good job, my friend. Good job. You may think you're cool as Jerry Hodge, but you aren't sign off this dish in of the program. One of the thank you for listening along with Jay west, Texas, Leeson four Christopher Collins, and our friend from Mullen Horton Brown. Travis Tali gotta get home gonna get home. Great family above average Jenner waiting for me until next time raven buddies ray-ban, we'll see next time right here on the other side of Texas. Sam. It's.

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Ep 91 Share Your Stuff Author Laura Tremaine

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Ep 91 Share Your Stuff Author Laura Tremaine

"No all opportunities do not go away any second. You do not have to seize every moment it's gonna take a long time and you need to settle in welcomes midlife. Mix tape the podcast. I'm nancy davis co and we're here to talk about the years between being hip and breaking one do l. and take in slung weaned. hi listeners. This is nancy. Davis co host of the midlife. Mix tape podcast and author of the. Thank you project. Cultivating happiness one letter of gratitude at a time. I'm also a frustrated fan of live music at a time when going to a concert could kill ya so since. I can't recommend any concerts to you. I thought i would at least start out. Today's show with music tip. Check out the brand new album. Strange boy by kate davis and before you ask yes indeed. This is nepotism placates. The daughter of my sweet cousin jim however she also happens to be wildly talented and this is a brand new album and it's so great. It's a cover album of the late. Great daniel johnston's project retired boxer. Kate has teamed up with daniels charity. The hi how are you project for the release with a portion of the proceeds from the sales and streaming of her music going to the charity as part of this partnership. Kate was in the. Hi how are you mental health day fundraiser and performed over livestream with jeff tweedy bully molly burch lucious ton day data may of tv on the radio and a bunch of other folks. If you're thinking about kate music. You're thinking sharon barnett and bridges. Feist if you like that kind of music five checkout strange boy on spotify band camp apple music and other streaming services or you could order yourself some choice blue vinyl strange boy by kate davis. Give yourself the gift of a mid month music. Refresher right hello and happy year of the ox. I feel like maybe we should have taken a beat last chinese new year when we welcomed in year of the rat did that not give us any kind of clue about what we were going to face in two thousand twenty this year. It's the year of the ox the metal ox to be exact. It's not just an animal. There's always an element to be associated with it the energy around the metal ox years from what this white girl who is married to a chinese guy whose primary expression of pride in his ethnic heritage is the prodigious consumption of chinese food is that we're basically in a holding pattern for the next twelve months. We're supposed to just chill and not make major moves in the coming year but rather preserve our energy and spirit. So i guess it's time to rsvp no to all those many many invitations. I have to move from the living room couch to the front porch and back down to the tv room. Really have to rein in my social schedule in all seriousness. After so many months of being cooped up. I feel totally rusty when it comes to just being outside in the world and their stuff. I used to do all the time. In fact complain about how much i had to do it like driving that. I don't feel like i'm very good at anymore. I mentioned over. On the mid-life mix tape facebook page the other day that there was a moment earlier this month. God i hope not listening where i was driving along during errands and suddenly i was in the middle of an intersection and i was thinking. Oh my god. Was there a stop light. Was there a stop. Sign that iran. What do i do now stuff that i used to just compute through muscle memory brain memory. I really have to think about deliberately. So i asked on facebook whether there are things that you worried you have gotten out of the habit of doing. And here's just a smattering. Jen said number one accessorize and number two where items other than star wars dave matthews or san. Jose state university merch related to this. Chris offered the following extremely relatable vignette. He had a friend going to a socially distance gathering in another friend's backyard. Who asked the hosed. Is this going to be hard pants or soft pants. Hard pants obviously khakis in jeans. Something with a zipper. Soft pants yoga. Aunts sweats speaking of someone. Who now has company sweats. as in. these are the sweats. I wear when company comes to sit in the front porch. I don't even know what these hard pants are. That you speak of katrina said. She was worried about being out of the habit of wearing makeup and that set off a chorus of aymen's that and wearing bras i'm telling you brought manufacturers of america. You days are numbered unless you come up with soft bras. That have a snack pocket. My friend andrea hopes. That she'll one day remember again. What the day and date are but the most common refrain that i heard from midlife. Mix tapers on the facebook page. Was that they're nervous about being around people again. A little bit nervous about that amber said i've gotten pretty rusty at holding actual conversations with people like in person tracy characterized it as. How do i interact with others without a word vomit whether it's because we are just out of topics i mean. This week is the same as last week was the same as the week before that or just out of practice. The idea of circulating around later this year in having a conversation with people outside of our pod can feel a little overwhelming. And i thought it might be useful for all of us together reminder of what's the old saying talk so that people will listen. Listen so people will talk. And that's where today's guest comes in. Laura tremaine is an avid reader sporadic writer and enthusiastic podcast her. She grew up in a small town in southern oklahoma and moved to los angeles sight unseen when she was twenty two years of film and television production followed in two thousand seven. She married the director. She met on her first movie set for six years. Laura regularly at hollywood housewife a blog. That open doors of friendship and opportunity all over the world eventually. She closed that blogging. Move toward podcasting as the regular co host on a girlfriend chat show called sorta awesome. And she's the creator and host of the topic driven smartest person in the room. Podcast these days. You can find her every week on her podcast. Ten things to tell you. Every episode provides a prompt for you to take to your journal or text to a best friend or us to start a deeper more meaningful conversation. And laura's first book share your stuff. I'll go first ten questions to take your friendships to. The next level came out on february. Second of this year. Laura tremaine and i have more than ten things to tell you so. Pull up a chair. Listen hello laura tremaine and welcome to the midlife. Mix tape podcast. Hello thank you so much for having the. I'm super excited to be here. I'm super excited to. Because i think your book is a really great guide for some conversations that can be enlightening and fun and different from everything else who've been talking about for the past pandemic year. But before we get to that laura we important first question which is what was your first concert and what were the circumstances of this is kind of funny because it's a real. It's a real throwback. But my first concert that i went to actually yearly i went to this show was reba. Mcentire who is from oklahoma. I'm from oklahoma. I was growing up in oklahoma. She did this annual fund raiser thing every memorial day and she put on the most insane reba mcentire show every year. And i started going as a kid i went for years. She would change her outfits. And all these crazy sets and like. I have never seen a concert like that. Glamour did did everybody in oklahoma go. Was it like a dolly parton in tennessee. Kind of a scenario we. Oklahoma puts out a lot of great country artists but reba special. Like i mean she she is the hits in so it was huge will definitely thousands of people there and it was a totally different experience concert. Wise that i would have later in my life with like small really intimate really special venues like sort of in a different way but what i loved about going to those shows was. She's a real showman. Reba mcentire like she is a total showman. Like taxi would drive onto the stage for fancy and i mean there was all these elements to it that i had not seen big concerts like that. There was a pyro. It wasn't that situation. But like a lot of set changes outfit changes big reveals and i mean it was really like a big deal and i got to a stage like teenager live for a little bit older were. It was easy to poke fun of it. Almost like it was cheesy in a way. But now i look back in a mike. What was amazing. I'd give anything to go to that show again now when you left oklahoma i know when you move to los angeles one of your employers was. Mtv is that correct at is that was my first employer. Actually and i did not a ton of music stuff. I did work on. Snoop dogg's very short-lived show called doggy. Fizzle television by doggy. Fizzle televisual right. I can't wait to my transcriptionist tries to read that one. Otherwise i did not do much music work when i was working for music television. Did you ever have any chance encounters in the elevator dirt. You can give us on behind the scenes. Mtv life oh it's funny you ask that. I don't even know if i've ever told this story. But one time. I was at the vending machine trying to get myself some sort of a snack snack and someone came up behind me and he reached his arm around. Press the button like right around me. Which is the crews and personal gesture i in he spoke in his voice was so familiar i jumped and i turned around. And it was ashton kutcher. Oh he was doing. I guess he was doing punked. Probably at that time. In the same building and i was like okay. Just take my orientation ashton. I didn't wanna take five bars. Stop pressing the buttons. All right. we're gonna talk about you and your book which is called. share your stuff. I'll go first ten questions to take your friendships to the next level and last week. Was your book birthday. happy birthday. thank you very much. I'm super excited about it. My first book i've wanted to do. I wanted to have you on the show because my first episode of the year we talked a lot about how to have conversations with people on the other side of the aisle from us politically or who have different viewpoints from us in a lot of different spheres that was j christopher collins in his book. Many are union. But i think and i checked on facebook at the midlife mcstay facebook community. I think we're all out of the habit of a lot of things that seemed pretty easy to us a year ago for sure one of the one of the topics that emerged as talking to other people. Because we're inside were with our pods. We're not having that kind of day to day chitchat. Even with good friends of ours and so this book came across the transfers beautiful. I love the cover. It's really lovely pink in color tones. It's a book about how to get better at how we talk to the people who we know in love our dearest friends and i wanted to ask you. What was the concept behind the book. What made you think this is the book that i should right now. Well this definitely wasn't ever the book. I would have pictured myself writing. But i started a mommy blog. Eleven years ago out of complete loneliness. And i learned to share like it was the sharing piece that really changed. My life really pulled me out of a real dark night of the soul friendship wise. It was the sharing and so as time went on. And i shared and other way social media came along i started podcasting. I tried all these different ways of sharing. But i just kept getting feedback from people where it felt like. There was a common thread of thank you for sharing this. I could never share this. So i was like. Why is the response. Like why can't you share. I mean outside of the obvious reasons that maybe people have a career that hinder stam or something like that. But in general why the older were getting the more were shutting down from sharing so freely the way we did when we were teenagers. Young people because i was like real time experiencing. How was the sharing. That was making my life so much better like so much better. So i started another podcast. I've had a few. But i started this. Most recent called ten things to tell you or that was the whole concept. Each episode had a question or a prompt or a topic that you're supposed to purposely take then to be a conversation starter with a friend or partner or even your journal if it's too vulnerable to talk it through but the real emphasis was the sharing piece and i just got a great response to it. I really enjoyed you. Know holding people's hands like teaching them how to share especially if they were nervous about it and it just ended up coming out in book form really naturally definitely not what i thought my first book would be but i got to share these stories that i've held onto for a really long time because a lot of us do this. We hold onto our our most tender stories. And i also along the way got to encourage people in the sharing round because even though social media so easy for us to share more in my world women of a certain age if you will like they're more shutdown from sharing than they've ever been in their real life any of it and so the book straddles both parts in talking about sharing in general in general and me encouraging people to do that and then also me getting to share some really important stories to me some fun stories. And so that's what the book does. Share your staff. And then i'll go first right so for each chapter. It is a question. Laura about why that question is interesting or important and then she answers it and then invites you with a few prompts to respond to it yourself and it really is about you making yourself vulnerable so that. It's an invitation for other people to do that as well is that part. Was that hard to do. I mean was that hart ca some of the stories. They're not the ones that come out when you're talking to somebody for the first time you meet them. These are these are pretty some pretty deep stories. Well i make mix in the book of lighter stories and deeper stories. You're not going to raise your hand at a dinner party. And just be like i need to talk to you about my third grade trauma like i mean that would just be. Oh we've also next to that person at it in there. Maybe i have been doing but it wasn't hard for me to tell these stories. I was actually relieved to tell some of the more sensitive stories in the book. Because as long as i shared online. I haven't talked through some of these things. I felt like. I wasn't going to throw them up on instagram caption. They deserved book treatment. But i also really wanted people to read some of my stories and understand that are older stories. We don't have to get over them or completely released them. If that's part of your healing or that's what you wanna do then have added. I have those too. But what i hate is that we get to a certain time in life where we get to a certain level of success or we have a beautiful family or whatever and so then we are not supposed to talk anymore about times in our life that were hard or loves in our life. That were meaningful. Even if they're not our current love you know all of these things like culturally kind of get like conditioned out of us to talk about. But i think we still think about them and i definitely know that they've got us to where we are. I mean they're part of our bigger story and so when you are trying to present you know who you are now in relationship or in whatever way you can't discount everything that came before and and i think that we're told that we're supposed to and i don't want to. I want to share that stuff. I mean there are so many ways in which your book and my book but thank you project meet up. And that's that's one of them. Because i talk about in my book writing. Thank you letters to people who have helped shaped inspired you whether or not. They're still in your life whether or not you send those letters because we are shaped by difficult times as well as great times and we may have been profoundly changed by someone who were not in contact with anymore and being able to look back with gratitude not necessarily at how they taught you the lesson but at the lesson is a really helpful way to get perspective to regain power over your own story. And i think that's one of the things that really appeal to me about this book. Is you're encouraging people to think really deeply and by doing that yourself. You are making it more comfortable for readers to do that. And i think that's always a gift from a writer is when you read something in fiqh whether it's fiction or nonfiction and you think that's me like i feel understood. I feel seeing. I don't feel so alone. Because i know at least one other person out there shares that experience and i think that can be a real gift from a book like this. It's so funny. Because one of the things that i was a little bit worried about when i was writing the book in terms of trying to hold hands with the you share your staff. And here's mine. Is that my stories. Were so specific that i was worried that they wouldn't do what i needed them to do. They wouldn't be relatable who grew up in a small town in oklahoma. I moved to los angeles. I married a movie director. I you know. I have weird quirky circumstances. I'm completely aware of that. I have found it to be so funny that i've heard from people all weeks. The book has come out that they were like. This is my exact story. Okay now i know it is not their storm on the details but in the in the big picture yes and i'm so glad like they took my move to la story. We'll vais moved to go to college. They moved to new york for a year. Whatever they did that's the equivalent in their line. I just love hearing that are specific stories. Even if we think they are so specific special to us on the one hand they are but on the other hand like there's some very obvious universal themes that a lot of us carey and we don't share them because we think. Oh that's my quirky little story but it's so helpful to hear someone else. Tell a story and be like oh. I have a time when that happened to me too. I thought i was the only one right. Well it's interesting. Because as i was going through with each chapter i was really thinking about close friends of mine for whom i have no idea what the answer is to that question. You had questions like when did you belong. What broke you. What are your magical moments. I would not be able to tell you what the answer to that is for. You know even my best friend. And i just think it's really interesting to think about deepening relationships having these kinds of conversations now you mentioned that women are. I don't know maybe men as well but you know you get to what i call the years between being hip and breaking one. Maybe you're not so eager to share that. Maybe you're shutting down a little bit. Why do you think that is. I think there's all kinds of reasons. i mean. We might have personal reasons that we don't wanna revisit difficult seasons or if we have come out kinda shiny on top. We don't want to admit that we started out from a real gritty place. I mean i don't know. There's a lot of things but what i see. The most of is women particularly. Because that's who i'm interacting with. They've been told some version of it's disrespectful to your family to talk about old loves for example or it's disrespectful to your family of origin. Your parents to say that there were things that were hard about your childhood. Because it's impossible for people to say i understand. My parents. Were doing the best they could and also this was really traumatic. Like it's really hard for people to hold all of these things in their hand at the same time and so the women i know. They're in my circle. Who are thirties forties. Oftentimes they're moms oftentimes they're entrenched in a career where they feel like they really. Cannot you know they have to let go of some of those stories like it makes them look very uncool or like they haven't gotten over it if they're still talking about their prom. Something like that. We have been told that. is i roll worthy. That's like a person who won't let go of the past or something like that. And i just don't think that has to be the energy around it like why can't it just be like that was really formative for me. And it's hard for me to get to know you. If i can't tell you this thing that happened when i was young. We're really conditioned out of that. And i just. I'd to hear about your first kiss. I just do. I think it's interesting. I don't find it to be disrespectful to your current partner like let's talk about it. It's not really all about you. Jose as we like to say yeah. You know it's funny. I'm in a giving circle. I get together with a group of friends here in oakland where we used to in the in the before times we got together four times a year to pool our resources and donate it to a charitable organization. And i think the best part of the meeting we've been together. I think fifteen years now this group ladies and we have an icebreaker the host always gets to pick the icebreaker and they are like that. We all know what each other's marriage proposals were. We all know the worst bridesmaid's dress we ever wore. It's so cool. I love that part because you find out things about each other. The you didn't know. And it's the corky questions. Get the best answers. And i think in some ways are so illuminating about you. Know this person who you think you know. She's a fellow mom at your school or you go to church with her. Whatever and then you find out that that the guy she's married to wasn't her first proposal or whatever it is and it's it's really interesting to me makes the whole world a little bit more interesting thank you. I absolutely love hearing other people's stories of who they used to be or how they got to who they are now like. I have a whole group. Mom friends that. I've only known you know five years and so we're constantly saying things to one another like. Oh in my twenties. I you know whatever people are like. Whoa then it. Also kind of makes sense to who they are now. Sometimes it makes you think Okay that's why you're super weird about parties and so it does deepen your friendship like on a shallow level and sometimes on a deeper level of like okay. It's all making sense now and the book is also a useful tool. I think for self reflection because some of the questions like the. What broke you question. I really thought about that for the day after. I read that. Because i was thinking the things that have broken me the times where. I've really been struggling. Aren't necessarily the ones that seem obvious. On the surface the losses that were were big. sometimes. I was prepared for those. It was the sneak attacks that usually got me. And so even if you're not using this book as a tool to talk with your friends i think it's worth reflecting for yourself writing in your journal. Whatever it is Just to have that. i don't know it was. It was thought provoking for me in a way that i appreciate it. Well another thing. I've learned doing this share topic online for so long. Is that a lot of people. Do not have a group of friends that they could go through these questions with like a lot. More people than i think i knew. They don't have a friend group they don't have a best e they don't have some of these things that we talk about really casually and so first of all. I wanted to give them a tool to if they were in a situation where they can have an icebreaker where they could start a better conversation in order to cultivate those relationships. But also if you're in a place where you just don't have it. You're just you're underwater in motherhood or you've always had trouble with friend groups whatever it is that like you said you can still really take from the book with just your journal or with just a long walk and just appreciating all that you've been through or the people who made an impact or any of the different things i brought up. It doesn't have to be done with others. I don't want to like alienate. Those who the alike. This is just a a grownup version of sorority or something. I'll read this book together. It does not have to be that at all. While the other application i saw for this is if you have been at the same people in your pod for almost a year now i was like oh some new questions. I could ask the two people i'm living with. No one has moved on once gone back to college but really it's been the three of us staring at each other since march. So you know. I'm always looking for like what's a new thing we could talk about. It's not the same thing we've been talking about since last year. Yes exactly. we're going to ask my husband tonight. What are what are your magical moments. And if i'm not number one is going to be held to pay in a minute. We're gonna come back with laura tremaine author of share your stuff. I'll go first. But we're going to take our sponsor i today's episode of the midlife mix tape. Podcast is brought to you by flavor. Naturals flavor naturals is a brand changing the way people think about and consume chocolate. Harnessing the power of nature and grounded in science flavor naturals decadent premium. Chocolate's unsweetened cocoa powder have five hundred to nine hundred milligrams of naturally sourced plant based coca flopping all antioxidants per serving. 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Drink go to flavor naturals today to learn more and enter discount code. Mix tape m. i. x. t. a. p. e. for twenty percent off your next order that's f. l. av a a. Dot com and the discount code is mixed tape m. i. x. t. a. p. e. all caps. The discount code is only good through march fifteenth. So get moving. Chocolate was your weakness but with flava naturals. It's your strength. So we're back with laura and laura. You and i are in the same club in that. We brought out our debut books at midlife after many years of labor yes years of labor. I just wanted to acknowledge that. Because there's all those lists of twenty at twenty and thirty under thirty and lady. I am proud of those of us who have gotten to this point and have not been so worn down by life that we can still actually make new creative work so congratulations. I'm clapping silently behind my microphone for you. Thank you so much and to you. This is maybe not the path either of us expected. But here we are. And i don't know we bring a different flavor to our first bucks. I feel i will. I was going to say. Do you think that it was harder. Or maybe easier to be debut author in your forties than it would have been a few done at ten years earlier like on a purely selfish personal level. There were things about it that were easier. you know. i'm forty one. I care less about what people think you know. I can tell these stories that. I told in the book better than i could have told them. Even five years ago let alone ten years ago on the other side. I feel like like anything else. Everything's a little bit easier when you're younger in terms of energy and pitching yourself and there are things that would have been easier a while ago but now that it has unfolded the way that it has. I do feel like This makes sense for me. I probably would blown at six ways to sunday. If i had done this when i was thirty. I mean it would have a good intentions or whatever. But i didn't maybe have the right priorities and you know now i feel more sure footed in general not every single day every single moment but in general i feel more footed and so i was able to make the decisions around the book and run the marketing and around shopping. The book like all of these things. I feel like i was able to do from a totally different place of confidence. And i know you think about it. So i just. I'm a big believer that things unfold the way they're meant to and i can look back now and say that it's a good thing that i didn't get published the first book at because this is what i learned in that process so i'm pretty zen about all of that. I certainly wish like you said i had really good intentions. With that. first book. It would have been nice at some level. If i could have succeeded but i realized i did succeed. Just not at the thing. I thought i was succeeding at you. Know i didn't get published. But i was succeeding. I just didn't know that. That's that was the road i needed to be on. Well that is true for me too. I was a different type of rider and wanted to be a different type of writer than what my actually skill set. And i think that's what i mean about. I would have blown it. Not because i wouldn't have wanted to do well but i just tried to be something different. I feel like. I have the confidence of being like. Oh no i know exactly who i am. This is how i write. I'm putting out a poke it up book it just it just is what it is it. Is it up book. I wanted to ask you if you think that being a podcast has made you a better writer. Okay girl. remember how. I'm supposed to be asking to service. No no i just want point out. I'm going to answer the question. But this is who laura is. She asks questions she's interested and that's what makes her such a good guide in this book. I'm just pointing that out. It obviously is so baked into you. I love it. What was the question. Do you think that being a podcast or has made you a better rider or no for sure and the funny thing is that when i started the podcast there was some grief involved in it because i did it after my second book. Not the first book did make it. Second one and i was like i got to do something creative doing well with my writing so i'm gonna try podcasting and maybe i'm not a writer. Maybe that's the problem. I wasn't meant to write something and couple years later. I finally have the published book out. I definitely think it makes me well for sure. It makes me better able to talk about my book. So i love doing presentations and i'm meeting with the school group this week and i do all kinds of presentations around the idea of gratitude letters to all kinds of audiences and i'm super comfortable with that. Just because i've been behind the mic with podcast. So much that is a big part of making a book successful being willing to go out there and promoted but from a writing standpoint. I think that also blends over because in editing the podcast. I'm always looking for the story. Arc from the beginning of the episode to the end. That's a big part of being a writer to does that. Make sense total sense. It's made me the editing. I also edited my show for years. Made me a better writer as much as the speaking into the microphone. But i do think it in general it made me a better communicator. Which of been made me a clearer writer. I took a break from writing. Because i used to write five days a week on my blog for years and years which was an fabulous discipline. Like i really cut my teeth on not only writing sentence but like writing for nonsense and all that kind of thing. Well when i started podcasting. I took a break from writing. I would write occasionally on the blog but not very often. So when i sat down to write this book after years of most sleet speaking on the podcast i was worried i was going to be really rusty writing and i i was a little bit but on the other hand i was like oh no i'm just a stronger communicator. Now i know exactly what the punchline is and so that was a that was a surprise but it is one of the things. I've been talking to other creators. Whatever whatever kind of creator they are is to maybe try a different medium just for a minute and see if how it translates to whatever your heart song is like i think writing is my real passion but for years the podcasting change that they. I think it's good advice. And i just wanted to say by the way that the another place that yearbook and mine really align. And if anybody's read the thank you project i would say chapter two which is called. Who was there at dovetail so nicely with what i talk about in the thank you project about expressing gratitude to the people who impacted your life in a profound way and you have these great fun lists at the end of every chapter which and one of them was ten letters. I never sent. I think you should send a letter to stephen king. I am dead serious. There is not a smile on my face over here. Larry tremaine you. He would love to get a thank you letter about how impactful his writing was to you. Sunday well maybe maybe not hear back from him but it's a good thing to discipline thing to put out in the world. I'm encouraging you. I wrote to jane austen. Come on you right to stephen king. When i was a kid. I wrote to judy blume and she wrote back. Why wrote her this letter about how much i loved. Her men also was like. I don't know how to write a story. Like how do you do it. And so she wrote back she sent. She have had some kind of a newsletter which. I didn't know but she. She sent this printed out kind of judy blume newsletter thing but then she hand wrote like in the margins a personal note to me of you have to sit down and do it and you have to practice some kind of really lovely thing but she hand wrote it in purple pen on this judy blume newsletter and i was so impressed even then even young child me was impressed that she didn't just send the form letter of like. Thank you for contacting judy blume. She really wrote that. You mean the kind of letters. I was getting from melissa. Sue anderson over there little house on the prairie kind of letters i was getting. I love that story judy. Blume that's awesome laura. I want everybody. Who's listening to know where to find you. What's the best place to go while i most active on instagram. I'm laura dot tremaine. That's where everything lives. But if you want to find my boker listened to my show go to ten things to tell you dot com. That's the number ten things to tell you dot com and i'll put into the show now no over an instagram. You are so generous about sharing book recommendations are obviously a huge reader. When are you getting all that reading done. You have kids at home. Still right i do. And now they're like literally at home and the pandemic love it. I have a reading trick. I haven't little trick that anybody can read a book every two weeks if they set a timer for twenty minutes so i learned this trick when i was breastfeeding and i would have to. You know do ten minutes each side or pumping or whatever and so i would have a timer going and i would read during that time and i realized how much i was reading with. Just a twenty minute timer. And i started doing that so years over a decade ago and now i tell everyone to do it. I read nonfiction in the morning with my twenty minutes. Her and then. I read a novel in the afternoon before dinner or in the evening before bed. I set the timer for twenty minutes each time. So i'm able to do it three times. So that's an hour of reading day. I mean that really adds up but even if you're only able to do one twenty minute reading sprint a day you can read your average size book. You can read a whole book in two weeks at twenty minutes a day but the simultaneous breastfeeding is optional. Right i don't have to that you do not have to involve your boobs in any way. Thank god i just had the worst flashback to try to read when the baby hears a sound in the other room and twist their head. And you're like no sorry i'm getting to real lure. What's next what are you working on. Well this is a two but contract. So i have another book due by the end of this calendar year so i am going to start that in earnest in the spring. If i'm still doing my podcast which. I just truly love. It was a passion project for a while. now it's become part of a business for man. So i really really loved doing things to tell you that sort of all i'm doing right now. Podcasting and writing podcasting and writing. That's plenty also you're keeping your children alive during a pandemic so That is plenty for me. Yes this goes for you listeners. To your upright and wearing some pair of shoes they don't have to match they can be slippers. You're doing a exactly all right so we have one last question. We always ask laura. What one piece of advice you have for people younger than you or do you wish you could go back and tell yourself. I wish that i could tell myself that everything is going to take longer than you think. Because i really when i was in my twenties or late teenagers into my twenty s. I really fell hard into all of those messages. You get from people like carpet diem. Life goes so fast all this you know. I had this sense of urgency for my entire twenties. And i don't really think that it did me any favors. At the time. I thought i was like doing the hustle like really putting myself out there and all this but honestly everything in my life took longer than i thought it was going to take my marriage. Conceiving children my career writing a book all of it with very few exceptions took so much longer. And i feel like if i had been given that heads-up instead of the constant messaging of it goes fast. It goes fast. Act now like all this. This kind of anxiety. Inducing mentality. I think i would have settled into myself a little bit better. I really did have a low hum of anxiety that oh my god. Oh my god. All opportunities are going to go right any second. No all opportunities do not go away his second. You do not have to seize every moment like it's gonna take a long time and you need to settle in not everything is limited time offer. Yes guy really made me real frazzled. Like it made me really frazzled. Even on the emotional side of like when your children are little and it's like oh it goes so fast soak up every moment and so. I really tried to heed that advice. We know what happened. Those years are so slow it went spell. Here's your still here. I still have time with the right. We'll let me tell you with my twenty three year old living at home. I got an extra dose of it this year. This was this is my thing about the pandemic that i'm trying to really be grateful for. She still here but now cooks and will share a cocktail with me patiently. So bats you are living parent dream now laura tremaine. The book is share your stuff. I'll go first ten questions to take your friendships to the next level. I recommend it just to read and consider for yourself definitely if you need some help getting back out there in the world and having conversations with people you're not living with this is a great way to get started and look good luck with it. I'm so excited to know about it and we'll be in touch. Thank you so much. I super appreciate being here today. Okay everyone. I hope this gave you some new questions to ponder for yourself together with your pod and maybe over your next zoom catch up with a friend who you can't yet see in person. Just think someday when someone asks what broke you you might answer the day. I realized i was on my own waxing my browse for the next little while you know i might put into my magical moments category. The time my husband handed over his new hair clippers and asked me to cut his hair. I felt so powerful there for about five minutes because he kept saying how. How's it going. And i'm like shh. It's fine let me know what you thought of this up. He looks good. He's got hair. That grows back really fast too in case over screwed up what you thought of this episode you can email me at dj at midlife. Mix tape dot com. Send me a message via instagram facebook or twitter. I'm there as at midlife. Mix tape every rating and review that you leave makes it easier for other listeners to find me so i'm really grateful to you for adding your thoughts wherever you listen. I also hope you and everyone you love is staying safe and healthy. It's been a hell along fourteen month year but we are so much closer to the end of this trial than we ever have been before. And i'll see you guys next time. Don't unease down. How would do more for me though. These them on babble on give back he had the means with f you want from the b. b.

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October 1, 2019: A New York lawmaker is set to plead guilty in an insider trading case

5 Things

07:52 min | 1 year ago

October 1, 2019: A New York lawmaker is set to plead guilty in an insider trading case

"This episode of five things sponsored by Madison Reed put the time and expense of a salon behind you with Madison Reed. It's salon quality hair color delivered right to your door. Five things listeners get ten percent off plus free shipping on your first color kit with code. Five things at Madison Dash Reed Dot com good morning. I'm Taylor Wilson and this is five things. You need to know Tuesday. The first of October Twenty nineteen gates geico started a New York lawmaker is set to plead guilty in an insider trading case Republican Congressman Chris Collins who resigned from his position on Monday will appear in Manhattan federal the court on Tuesday a year after he was indicted on criminal insider trading charges. He's accused of tipping his son off to bad news coming out about a biotech company allowing his his son and seven others to sell off their stock before it's valued tanked. US Attorney Jeff Bergman outlined the crime a year ago we announced criminal charges against against Christopher Collins a United States Congressman Congressman Collins is charged with insider trading and lying to the FBI why in addition to serving in the House of Representatives Congressman Collins was also on the board of directors actors of Innate Immuno Therapeutics a publicly traded company that was developing drug for multiple sclerosis in June of two thousand Seventeen Congressman Collins was told some confidential and highly sensitive information shen about innate information that was not yet made public namely that nate's main drug the drug nate nate was developing to the be. The backbone of its company was a total failure. Cowan's set to arrive for a three PM hearing where he's expected it to change his previous plea of not guilty according to court records his two co-defendants his son Cameron and Stevens are ski. Cameron's fiancee's father are scheduled for a similar similar hearing on Thursday Tuesday marks the seventieth anniversary of the People's Republic of China but celebrations could be muted in Hong Kong as protests continue you there earlier on Tuesday police already had to intervene as Beijing supporters and pro democracy protesters clash manual fireworks display has been cancelled and a number of subway stations are closed to minimize disruptions pro democracy. Hong Kong residents have long accused China of encroaching on their autonomy and the issue was re sparked after a government proposal which has since been withdrawn to change extradition laws to allow suspects in Hong Kong to be sent to mainland England China to face trial meanwhile in Beijing. The anniversary has been celebrated with a number of events including a military parade that featured the display of a hypersonic onic ballistic missile next Tuesday is the last day for Democratic candidates to qualify for the next presidential debate so far twelve candidates will be participating dating with Hawaii Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard and billionaire activists. Tom Star added to the Group of ten that participated in last month's debate but it looks like it'll be unlikely that anyone else meets the requirement of at least two percent in four Democratic National Committee approved polls as well as donations from one hundred thirty thousand unique donors and the DNC also recently released even more difficult requirements that candidates must meet for the November debates setting up the possibility that several additional candidates may miss out on the stage compared to this matchup. It also may represent the final nail in the coffin of some entire presidential campaigns well. It's now October but it's still you really really hot of course those who got snow the past few days in the Western. US might not think so but the south remained stuck in a seemingly endless summer some cities may see record or near record days with temperatures well into the nineties including Atlanta Birmingham Knoxville and Tallahassee and as the heat expands into the Midwest and northeast this week cities like Cleveland New York and Washington could shatter heat records in place since the eighteen hundreds and last up the playoffs are here in the Milwaukee brewers where is in Washington nationals will kick off the postseason when they battle it out in the National League Wild Card game on Tuesday night. USA Today Sports Steve Gardner has more after after failing to make the playoffs with Bryce Harper last year. The Washington nationals have eliminated him this year and they're a better team without bryce. Washington relies that's on leadoff man trae Turner to set the table an MVP candidate Anthony Rendon to clean it off. Starting pitching is what makes the nationals dangerous both in this game and hand throughout the postseason if they advance ace's Max Scherzer Stephen Strasburg and Patrick Corbin provide a solid trio that matches up with any team in the majors meanwhile the Milwaukee brewers are classic case of not throwing in the towel. MVP Christian Yelich suffered a broken kneecap September tenth but yet the brewers have been the best best team in the majors since then. Lyon Bron has taken over the former MVP is leading the offense and the brewers have impressive rookie Kenniston Kira in the lineup something something they didn't have last season as for pitching. It's no name starting pitching for the brewers but then again they did that. Last season. Two all they have to do is get the ball to Josh Hater who can close it out in the night or the eighth or possibly the seven. That's the formula brewers used in winning a tiebreaker game last year and the National I league division series. It's the same formula and they will stick with it. Meanwhile the nationals have trouble with good teams. The brewers won the season series four games to two and of course hanging over their heads. That's have never won a postseason series add to that suspect bullpen and you have some pretty eighteen nervous people in Washington however in the end look for Max Scherzer to give the nationals the edge they need and Anthony Rendon to provide the big hit milwaukee the absence of Christian Yelich finally becomes a factor when he's not there at crunch time three time cy young winner Max Sherzer we'll take on the brewers Brandon Woodruff at eight. Oh eight PM Eastern time on TBS the winner gets the face the Los Angeles dodgers in a best-of-five division series beginning on Thursday. 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We Work Pulls Plug on IPO This Year

WSJ What's News

12:21 min | 1 year ago

We Work Pulls Plug on IPO This Year

"You're invited to travel the world and discover what it means to live the intercontinental life with more than two hundred properties worldwide intercontinental hotels and resorts welcomes you to do. I conduct properties in global destinations including New York London and Shanghai discover more about these cities and the tails inspire with stories of the intercontinental continental life a collection of stories that will excite your curiosity and offer New Perspective on the world here more at intercontinental dot com forward slash life we work pulls the plug on its IPO. They no public investors didn't like what they saw when they went out meeting them over the last few weeks and months so the question is what do public investors want. What will they buy. What is this company going to look like. There's a lot of that story to be written now. Plus after volatile third quarter for stocks will take a look at what comes next. It's Monday September thirtieth. This is what's news from the Wall Street Journal. I'm Anne Marie totally in New York Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says the Senate will hold a trial trial if the house approves articles of impeachment for President Trump speaking on CNBC on Monday McConnell said according to Senate rules he'd quote have no choice but to take it it up the house announced last week that it would begin an impeachment inquiry focusing on allegations that trump sought to use the powers of his office to push Ukraine to investigate Democratic Arctic rival Joe Biden The Wall Street Journal's Natalie Andrews explains a potential Senate. Trial is still several steps away articles of impeachment. We need to pass the House on a majority vote wrote and we do know that the majority of House Democrats the court and impeachment inquiry but not all of them are on the record saying that support actually voting to impeach the the president should have pass articles of impeachment that essentially serve asthma treatment. That's one way to think of that. The which kind of helps in this process so so how can indict and so the articles of impeachment would move to the Senate Mitch McConnell has a few choices he can move to dismiss them. That's that's happened in the past he could refer it to committee so he could say the articles of impeachment to the committee or he could do a trial of some sort of structure that it they determined. House committees have subpoenaed trump's personal lawyer. Rudy Giuliani for documents related to Ukraine officials say secretary of State. Mike pompeo listened the call between President trump and his Ukrainian counterpart. That's at the center of the inquiry. The House hasn't yet set a timetable for the impeachment inquiry New York Congressman Christopher Collins resigned on Monday ahead of his expected guilty plea. Tuesday to federal charges related to an insider trading case. It wasn't made clear what let George Collins would plead guilty to earlier this month. Collins pleaded not guilty to a revised set of insider trading charges including conspiracy to commit securities fraud prosecutors accused him of passing confidential tip to his son Cameron Collins so his son could sell shares of an Australian biotechnology company before it was made public that their drug trial had failed Congressman Collins was an early supporter of President Trump during the twenty sixteen campaign and another Republican Texas representative Mac thornberry announced he'll be retiring at the end of his term joining a growing list of House Republicans who are leaving Congress as the top Republican on the House Armed Services Committee thornberry sometimes objected to president trump's foreign policy last year he joined Democrats to push back against trump proposed withdrawal of US forces from Syria thornberry Tornberg also opposed the president moving money from military projects to fund the border wall but he didn't support a house resolution objecting to the president doing so thornberry's district it is among the most Republican in the country and is expected to stay that way in the twenty twenty election college athletes in California will be able to earn endorsement and in sponsorship money starting in Twenty Twenty Three California Governor Gavin Newsom signed a bill into law today that gives student athletes set public as well as private colleges colleges and universities in the state the right to receive money for the use of their name image or likeness in a statement issued on Monday the national collegiate Athletic Association criticized. This is the state for going it alone with the bill but did not directly repeat its earlier threats of fighting the decision in court and possibly barring California colleges from competitions since the NC double A. wanted the state to hold off on passing legislation because it plans to release its own report on name image and likeness issues in October. You're you're invited to travel the world and discover what it means to live the intercontinental life with more than two hundred properties worldwide intercontinental hotels and resorts welcomes you to iconic properties in global destinations including New York London and Shanghai discover discover more about these cities and details inspire with stories of the intercontinental life a collection of stories that excite your curiosity and offer new perspectives on the world world here more at intercontinental dot com forward slash life the third quarter has been a volatile period for for us stocks which ended the day up on Monday the S. and P. Five hundred is actually entering the fourth quarter tomorrow with its biggest year to date gain in more than two decades rallying lean nearly nineteen percent so far this year joining me now to talk more about the third quarter and what the results mean for the end of the year his Wall Street Journal reporter Goon Banerjee a gun when we look at the major drivers of volatility in the third quarter trade is a big one that comes to mind also the Fed's moves to cut interest rates. How did we see that playing out. It's been a really really wild quarter for stocks bonds and even commodities. We've seen some of the biggest moves in years and much of that has been driven. Kevin by trade we also saw the Federal Reserve cut interest rates for the first time in more than a decade and investor expectations of their future moves continue to drive stocks throughout the quarter and the Fed's moves are in line with what we're seeing from other central banks globally right exactly the Federal Reserve was just one of many central banks. The cut rates in the third quarter of this year and investors and analysts are expecting not to continue so what does this mean potentially for the fourth quarter. We still have many of those unknowns including trade looming schorr you know so the third quarter it was a really wild ride and I think many investors are expecting that to continue just in the next few weeks we'll see corporate earnings released and investors so far aren't too optimistic about what earnings results will show will also see leaders from. China and the US meet and tweets and use on trade have just had this huge potential to drive volatility markets during the day and throughout the third quarter so we're expecting that to continue continue as we look ahead to earnings. Are there any sectors that are out performing others over the past month. We've seen kind of this rotation. Go on some of the sectors of the S&P S. and P. Five hundred and for example for the past month energy stocks and financial stocks have outperformed the broader gauge and they haven't done that over the past years so oh so many investors are looking to see if that can continue so as we embark on the fourth quarter. What else are you hearing from. Investors about. Potential concerns one big thing that's been on investors astor's minds is whether slowing growth slowing economic growth in other parts of the world could trickle into the US so people are really on high alarm for for weather that can happen. You know we saw these consumer spending figures last week which were a little bit disappointing to investors especially since so far the US consumer has been a bright spot aut for our economy so that's something investors definitely keeping an eye on that's the Wall Street Journal's Gunderson Banerjee big news from we work on Monday. The shared office space company is pulling the plug on its initial public offering the decision comes less than a week after CEO Adam Newman stepped down from the company following questions over its corporate governance joining me now with more on what comes next is Wall Street Journal reporter Maureen Farrell Maureen. Let's quickly recap what the last week or so has entailed for. We work. It's hard to imagine but about a week ago at this time. Adam Newman the CEO and Co founder was considering stepping down he was talking to his board talking to Jamie diamond the CEO of J. P. Morgan and wrestling with this decision and since then he has stepped down he and his wife Rebecca Newman who is the CEO we grow the elementary school founded were their children attend shoes. Also one of the cofounders chief brand officer. She's also stepped down a lot of their friends and family members who worked at the company have to about twenty people have been pushed out and the company now it had been assumed that they weren't going to go public they name. Am to insiders as co CEOS now today. They officially said that they're not going public this year. What do we know about the biggest challenges ahead right now. It's hard to even kind of say. What is the talk challenge but number one need cash? I mean they need to figure out where they're going to get money from. They're not going public. Will they get from Softbank. Will they get more loans from banks. And what is their business model. GonNa look like what we've reported in. What we've been hearing is that they're going to change. They had a lot of these sort of ancillary businesses that were not part of the office leasing business. We understand that they're going to focus much more on their core business and try to right it and try to figure out a way that they can get to profitability so but we don't quite understand what that means. We've seen they've been on this huge girl trajectory. They've also seen their their losses expand each year so now they need to figure out what the business model looks like especially if you're not consuming a huge amount of capital which so far has been the only way they've been able to grow. What's IT GONNA look like and we had been reporting in recent weeks that we work with slashing its valuation. Can you tell us a roundabout. How much money is the company losing wall in terms of losses. I mean they've almost doubled their revenue. When you each year and along the way they've almost doubled their losses so they're they've been losing billions but they were last valued earlier in two thousand nineteen at forty eighty seven billion dollars they got new money in from Softbank by the time you know the IPO they were talking about less investors. Were saying very very unlikely to give them anything more than twenty billion dollars less than half evaluation of less than twenty billion dollars without have been almost third really where some of the numbers being batted around but even that it was hard to tell you know who is going to show up to this. IPO So we don't really know right now what the company's valuation could could be the one thing we do know is nowhere near forty seven billion dollars so marine could there still be an IPO on the table potentially sometime in the future future. I think that's still the goal I mean they've now said they're not going to do it in twenty nineteen but it seems like it almost has to be the goal in twenty twenty who knows possibly leader but they do need money and they've tapped a huge amount of investors in the private markets. I mean not that they couldn't get more money in the private markets potentially but at some point a business like this needs to go public and so. I think that's that is the game plan. The question is what the business going to look like and do they need. They okay no public. Investors didn't like what they saw when they went out meeting them over the last few weeks and months so the question is what do public investors want on. What will they buy. What is this company going to look like and there's a lot of that story to be written now. Wall Street Journal reporter Maureen Farrell joining me in our studio in New York. Thank you so much Maureen Maureen. Thanks for having me and that's what's news for this Monday afternoon. I'm angry for totally for the Wall Street Journal. Thanks for listening.

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Bud Kennedy on Texas Politics + Netflix password crackdown + Gross food stories

Other Side of Texas

1:24:32 hr | 2 years ago

Bud Kennedy on Texas Politics + Netflix password crackdown + Gross food stories

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They sported to the hospital. He did not make it fuck up. And so he did not make it just like Cain. Did not just then. And she only suffered minor injuries. And they're not going to file. They're not going to file charges. So. I hate you. Good. We're good just relaxed. We're good. Good. I'm not let this is a completely separate thing. Then I think the worst. I. She has no truce, Jila brains. Ran for president. Thank you. Glenn? Steve's here to train on track. Taking steve. She's announcing on Colbert this evening. Because you put it in slack. I don't even. You're talking about through important issues here. Canes new to radio. All right. Let's get back to. Steve saved it. And look we're on a delays. So just real quick because people don't understand. Accidentally played something audio right? That from stepbrothers. I wasn't going to play. Purse words in it. And for some reason when I was typing something in slacks space bar activated. The playing feature on that video. Where just I think the only word that actually. Mistake. But Steve Kadett. Delay. I just couldn't deal with it. Good. Gosh. All right. I'm better back for good. Oh my gosh. I can't even deal. Okay. All right. We're back. Let's get back to what I what we're talking about for Kane. Did that only I'm dying? Okay. No. We were taught. Okay. So the guy from think progress, right? The daily caller peace wherein, a concealed carrier saved her own life and prevented this this thug from attacking her and killing her. And so this dude tweets out. Conservatives are thrilled woman with a concealed carry permit shot and killed a nineteen year old would be mugger. I mean, please downplay his crime as much as possible that's not how Justice works. The penalty. For theft is not death, nor do we want it to be what. So I responded. Because that I said the hazard of targeting and then pulling your legally possessed gun on a woman. She waits alone for the buses that you may get shut stop shaming women who defend themselves. Women have every right to consider their safety first before that of the person attacking them. And by the way, how the hell do you know that he was just gonna mugger what is the woman's supposed to go? Wait a minute. I need to care more about my attackers wellbeing than my own. That is some patriarchal sexist be as if I ever heard it the last thing any woman wants to hear is some progressive beta male, telling her no you have to care about your attackers wellbeing more than you're on a tell you what you come up to me trying to attack or kill me. I will drop you just as any other woman has the God given natural right to do to defend her life. I'm not going to sit there, and I not gonna play twenty questions with you. I am not nor should any other woman, nor should any other woman say excuse me, Mr. attacker are. You just going to mug me. Are you just going to assault me as there are going to be raping involved in this? Are you going to try to drag me from this location somewhere else, maybe to a wooded area and leave me for dead? I need to know. So that I can check my think progress beta male progressive one, oh, one manual on proper female response to male aggression. There is some toxic masculinity right there. Oh my gosh. The idea that women should not defend themselves instead of ten I to the wellbeing of their attacker. You miss me with that that is some BS. And that's the thing. I said I told him I said if you target a woman and attack her she has every right to drop you make predators of raid as opposed to shaming women for wanting to live or not be assaulted or rate. And then that this by the way, this insistence that conservatives are thrilled. No, actually, we're not. I wish we lived in a world where it was kittens and sunshine and women weren't viewed as easy targets by predators. But we don't and that's why I choose to arm myself and train and practice awareness, all these people. Shame and women, and he had said it another point as well. He said the punishment for arm robberies and death, though. I of course, I don't think he he should have had a gun either. Yeah. He didn't think she should to. But if she had let him rob her even at gunpoint, both likely would. Have survived. It's the praise for her gun ownership that bothers me direct quote. Yeah. If she let him robber big first off go ahead and assume that's all he wanted to do. Let's just make that assumption. Because the woman the victim was supposed to know his intentions and have more concern for him the guy who pointed the gun to her head this that was inexcusable victim shaming. That's what it is. And just insane. It's it's so asinine, and then he came back, and he he said, well, I want to offer apologies and clarifications about a poorly worded tweet I sent about an incident of gun violence. I have since deleted the tweet, and it wasn't an incident of gun violence. It was an incident of defensive gun use stop shaming people for defending themselves. It was an incident of of defensive gun use. He goes will. I believe people have the right to defend themselves. My tweet suggested otherwise and for that, I apologize. And he goes, I ag- nor the context that this took place and our neighborhood with high rates of violence. That's an experience. I don't have and should speak to and he goes for that. I also apologize. He goes, my tweet suggested that conservative outlets covering the story. We're happy about a death. And that was not my intention, and he said, my ideal is for a world in which guns. Do not have to be a part of anyone's daily life in which gun deaths are not a part of our daily news. I stand by this ideal in disagree with the proposition. That more guns will make people safer. I'm going to be more sensitive in my advocacy in the future and for now. I stand humbled by mistake and simply as others continue to work with me in good faith in gun violence for all people. Well, I mean, I don't know if he's real or not I don't know if he's sincere. I think it's a start. But it's not an issue of gun violence that was an issue of defensive gun usage. The violence was what was being perpetrated to the woman and by calling gun violence, your immediately assigning blame and you are signing perpetrator status to the wom-. Who was the original victim to begin with? That's the whole thing. I'm visiting with Dr Eric black new owner of the hearing Dr located if it's to how I defend myself. Oh my gosh. No, absolutely not in this idea that we're supposed to know immediately. What the attention of the attacker is are you magical is that what you know. And it's not my responsibility. That's a hazard of committing a crime the hazard appoint a gun that you are an illegal possession of at a woman's head. Is that she may be lawful possession and better trained and more aware and should take you down. And shaming this out there. Shaming people out there. You know, what for all these anti gun advocates? They love scaring women to be in disarm and infuriates me. They say oh women your powered enough to go and kill your baby. But you are too stupid to carry a gun. You're too stupid to defend yourself toxic masculinity is what it is. That tells women that they're too dumb to defend themselves or too weak to defend themselves. And I always see the fearmongering from these anti gun advocates are like well, more women more women, you know, at cetera et cetera. Actually, I mean. Yeah. Just no. They wanna shame women into not carrying and they wanna keep women ignorant and keep men ignorant. Keep everybody heard about their second amendment rights that made me mad though. I don't know if you follow me on social media. But that's when I exploded because I can't stand that stuff. I can't stand it. 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They drop their partnership with the women's March because the women's March has some Reiji Antietam Antea dozen problems. According to one source. It's a report of the Jewish new syndicate and others. They're saying that the DNC found it real tricky. Yeah. 'cause y'all got some problems. In addition to that one congresswoman y'all have who recovered up Israel with posted of Palestine. I mean, yeah, Owen. Oh, let's not forget the pictures with the Hezbollah folks. Right. And the one dude who's like the picture with the one guy who says that apparently Israel's and have a right to exist. Okay. Sure. Yeah. That's not really how that goes. But all right anyway. So we have that. So that's that's that's also good. And then Alex Andrea kasha court has got called out by native Americans for saying that America's nation of immigrants. Yeah. They didn't like that. They said, yeah. And then she wouldn't call. They 'cause she was she said standing rock. She said it was standing rock inspired her to run. And then she went and said US, the United States is a nation of immigrants. Well, anyway today stupidity. Kane track of all your virtue signal. I know Stacey Abrams was out there talking about whether or not she supports non-citizens actually voting in local elections in her in a democrat. I'm sure you're not surprised to hear. There's a difference between this coal and state and federal part of Pahlavi. I'm not arguing for it or against it. But I will say having been deputy city attorney, there's a the brain Larry of what cities decide is. So specific as to I think allow for people to be participants in the process without it somehow undermining our larger democratic ethics. It says you should be a citizen to be part of the conversation. So in some cases, you'd be supportive of non-citizens. I wouldn't be I wouldn't oppose it. Not surprise. He has been. Folks that does it for us tonight. 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But this is where the bar is right now years ago, I went to Starbucks and got a Frappuccino in the drive through, you know, the milkshake with a bit of coffee on top of of it. With a ton of whipped cream is drove down the road on those some of the whip cream had fallen on my arm being the lush than I am. I decided to eat it off my arm rather than the wipe it off. So I eat the whip cream and then seconds later to my horror a start to realize it's not whipped cream. And all in the few seconds that I'd reached out of Hickel to get the drink a bird pooped on marm. Yes, I bird poop and had to rinse it out of my mouth with hot Gatorade. Not the proudest moment of my life. But a learned a lesson never trust random whipped cream. There you go you can trust the two dollar hot dogs at the USA arena. Your calls to be entered in to win tickets. Ada six impor- five fifty eight hundred we're gonna promote that throughout the show. You gotta call your dog licked it. You're the weirdest food Yate it somebody else's house will be asking our guests that as we roll along on the show the latest for you. We try to break the news in ways that others don't. But we break it just for you from. Austin? Just the season where the house in the Senate is they begin the legislature begin to put out their base budgets now. These are not finalized budgets are still budgets require a lot of ins and outs and horse trading. But based budget, usually means these will stay fix things within the budget, the house budget this morning seventeen million three hundred and fifty thousand dollars to Texas Tech's proposed large animal veterinarian school Awada hyphenation. What I just said. That's good news for a lot of tech supporters vet school believers that you've got that kind of support on the house side. That's the good news because whenever you go to the higher education coordinating board, you need your asked to be fully funded. The bad news is. In this will not understand because Dan Patrick in a lot of other statewide 's. Got reelected right here in this part of Texas from which we're broadcasting Amarillo down the Midland over to Abilene up to Lubbock. The Senate only appropriates four point one seven million dollars towards the bet school which sets up a situation in which you've got about a thirteen million thirteen million dollar disparity between the two that's gotta be somehow reconciled throughout the legislature. How that happens? I'm not quite sure. In the context of a legislative battle were billions are going towards Harvey seven billion dollars on the house side going into public education three point five billion dollars into teacher raises on the Senate side. But you've got this thirteen million dollar incongruity in that's enough space four. That God down in college station to operate in. I think you know, who I mean that John Sharp down in Austin in take a thirteen million dollar discrepancy and do with it what he will do in the in the. So we're just. The jury's out. And we'll see what happens and what can happen to reconcile those things. I think by the time they go to the higher education coordinating board that money needs to be there. And we'll see what happens between. Now. And then we want to take a quick break. Get in with Mike bizarre bizarre solutions, your calls on your worst food experience at somebody else's house and your dog licked it so you ate it. Anyway, a six EMF or five fifty eight hundred Guinea with Mike bazaar, absent thoughts on the today. I didn't interview today on a statewide publication about why think cliff Kingsbury will do well with the air the cardinals. I'm a true believer. I think he'll do. Well, we'll get in with wi- think that will. 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Maybe maybe I'll take some injuries on if you can only five things for the rest of your life. We have Mike bizarre bizarre solutions in studio as we do each week and talk about. Out technology, and how everything's going to hell might bazaar. We try not to get that far into. But you know. And get pretty rough it how you doing good, man. I wanted to real quick say to the I don't know if you saw the police departments Facebook post today, they got some guy that was trying to jump off the flyover on Mercer sharp to the loop. Yeah. Seven hours, they spent when the gauche eaters talking back off the ledge so toss out a thanks and a good job to the Lubbock police department than gauche eaters, that's pretty serious hours. That's a longtime is like through the middle of the night. And so it was I know I thought it was interesting there their post was basically apologizing that it was closed on like, I think that's a legitimate reason to close the roads you can get somebody to for seven hours visit completely closed. That's what they said because he was on the fly over up at the top. He was going to jump off of their I guess that was his plan, but they talked him off the legend. He didn't. So I got a food story to we can interject when they hear your foods story. So it's not like horrible or crazy disgusting, but the whole. On. Let's get this one. And then we'll get him with yours. Hey, welcome in other side of Texas. Thank you. You gotta food story for us sort of. I've got a story about Dr Pepper. That's okay. Okay. So this goes back to years that I my girlfriend at the time somehow married me my wife now, but. I thought this is going to different direction, but go ahead. Yeah. So do kinda real conscious. When we first started dating because I wouldn't eat or drink after her, and she took that sort of a personal insult and didn't understand that. I don't eat or drink after anybody. No, though, scaring off your plate. No, no. I don't drink out anybody. I don't eat off of anybody food or four nothing. This is Kyle yet. Okay. So Kali heating, even the save his life. He's not eating up your food your plate or your utensils. And he's not sharing his stuff either. No, no, probably not. So few months in she's over at my house and drinking a can of Dr Pepper and my dog walks over to me. And I thought it'd be funny to give him some Dr Pepper. And so the dog said back give them a little Dr Pepper, and he looked off the can. And it didn't bother me. Then I take a wig of the canned Dr Pepper and. Staring at me, the whole time just baffled. If y drink after a dog, but not a human being especially one that. I'm dating. By marrying. Yeah. So yes, he was pretty off foot by like, I said, it didn't didn't bother me. But that's probably at least, according to her the grossest food or drink story that I have I like funny, mud dog eats his own turds and doubt your wife does. So. Yeah. Think it's probably safer entering after her than a dog of what's the psychiatrist had say about all this. I don't go to that guy. Bristow? No telling what they would say. Okay. All right. So a drink after your dog, but not your wife. So you know after danger for years and now being married to cave from time to time, and we'll try something leading drink. Let me ask you this call is she walked in and she took the gallon. The mill held it up to her lips on a Saturday morning and took a big swig. Would you still take milk out of that container? No, really, really and other times if I've got my own food or drinking. I'm eating he like, you know, grabbed off my plate or take the drink without my permission. I get angry. And I'm like, you know, what you can just keep that. I'm not gonna finish it. Now. What if the dog did it you'd be okay with you said it on the floor in the to the good lick around the room? You would still drink it. Yeah. Probably by the napping. I, but yeah, that'd be no problem too. So what you're telling me is that there's really been no resolution. No, maybe a little bit of progress. Because like I said I do eat after sometimes now, but no probably not a resolution. He'll I do whenever we first got married. It was like let me have some food off your plate. No. You should've gotten what I got. Yeah. Yeah. To order. I wanted to eat the germs because I'm selfish big difference. There. Okay. Well cow. We've got you entered in okay. Okay. Four. I think it is show some testicular fortitude to come on the radio and show that you've got you'll drink after your dog, but not your wife. I don't want people to get the wrong. The I don't do this like every meal or anything? But now. Just like one for you. And for the dog every time we have dinner, we've got the idea. Oh, yeah. Well, anyway, if I win the tickets, not go tech. I hope would beat him on Wednesday. All right. We'll let you know count. Thanks for the call. I got. Quality comb. Yeah. Okay. So your foods story it my mind's not as good as I don't think. But it was I was in college. My brother was recently, married him and his wife invite me over to dinner at their house and try to be a good guest. You have to understand. I'm generally a picky. Eater drives. My wife nuts its vegetables don't want to do with it. Well, my sister-in-law makes this chicken and it's supposed to be pine nut chicken. Well, the recipe called for a certain amount of a believe dried, and she used fresh one of the other is is more potent than whatever she used was more potent than what it called for. So the amount that she used was like overkill, and it was like eating pine tree chicken like it was raped in a pine tree. It was the just piney hist. And luckily after a couple of bites and not saying anything, my brother was like is it supposed to taste fine Trie like what somebody else said it goes this taste? What east Texas chicken? Oh, it was. I don't want east Texas chicken anymore. It was not good your food calls eight. Oh, six seven four five fifty eight hundred. I'd say that the cow is leading the rings right now. You went your own meals on that bird. Poop two though. That's a. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the straight up disgusting one. But it takes a lot of bravado to call in and us to say what you said about drinking or eating after the duck. Might missouri. So let's get into some tech stuff. Yeah. I saw that you put a post up. Everybody's getting the ring. Everybody's getting the ring. Let's go script for just. Yeah. Everybody's getting the ring in the ring app the ring doorbell, and it is I don't know if it's the best or worse to be a part of the ring community MacOS. It's like a found this a look at this dog whose dog is. It's it can be a little bit tough. I turn on the notifications off because I got tired of getting all of them. Yeah. Hold on. Some breaking news is we're live here. And don't have the news noise. Do we can we ought to do? That's we're new age technology. Congressman Jody Harrington selected to serve on the committee on ways and means big important testing. Yeah. Big important committee. But anyway, let's get back to your food stuff. Tech stuff. The tech stuff. Sorry. So ring can spy on me now. Yeah. Yep. Ring apparently, they have not really responded these allegations. But they I think it put us on Facebook just privacy is dead. There's a whole article on it. But apparently some developers in Europe, the us as well as any of their top brass with only in Email address were able to go out and look at your ring and see what your ring doorbell was the problem is that also includes any cameras that you might have. So if you got rain cameras around your house or anything else, they're basically denied the how if it's in or out or whatever. And so the crazy part about this is when you sign. Sign up. You might expect depends on your level of of understanding privacy. And how it's dead you might expect that maybe machines will look through and try to identify certain things. Right. Like, they may use it to neither train AI el-gharib use AI that they've trained on other known videos, try to look for suspicious behavior, whatever else, but this was people like Jeff beezus wants to go look at what's going on your doorbell if he's got your E mail. He could and see what you had going on which is crazy to me. And then the other one the crazy thing is that just bazo 's Jeff bozo. If you've read recent pieces where the where the president has gone after Jeff Bezos. But that he could go in and look at what's going on in my living. Yeah. When I am in the morning, if he felt like it that is apparently the story, and he would be amazing. How early my children rise in the morning. Probably I will get some sort of a ward he might offer a job at Amazon or something. But the other crazy part that's come out with this too. There is talk. And I think this is one of those good bad things you have to kind of decide in terms of technology. But there's talk about trying to basically come up with a suspicious persons database and letting the ring use facial recognition to warn you. If you have suspicious people at your door now how they do that. I don't know. Right. I mean, if it's a library of mugshots pulling from or something else, but that is well as a little bit scary. Because then it me this use facial recognition identify everybody that walks up to your door, including you when you walk in your own house. Yeah. Might missouri. Just kinda want me to go back to the early nineties here drop, my internet, Email and everything else with technology base, banking all that stuff. But let's get into the other stuff. F- when they're one other tops. He so five G. Everybody's been talking about five G it's been around for a year and a half two years occasionally, see Seig in the big play is understanding the Texas legislature five, gene. Yeah. Well, so AT and T which you know, they're trying to put it into Dallas Austin. There's a couple of cities that are getting it variety released the very end of last year to me. I think the good thing about it. So five G in a nutshell. We're talking wireless signals, right? So one g was phone, right? I mean that was early cell phones to g was texting and three g was date on your phones. Right. That's the birth smartphones. And fort and three G four G was actually usable spark phones right in terms of you could get a reasonable data. And now five G is crazy fast like in ideal conditions. It is four to five gigabits fast. And so I me so like right now if you got the fastest service, you can get anywhere in town from NTIS. Suddenly he has one gigabit and that is a cable to your house. Right. So now, I can go anywhere rural America that you could potentially cellphone signal to which is a lot easier than dragon cables across rural America, and you can do five G services. You could get gigabit and these real high speed connections out into the boonies. And so it'll be a big deal. I think for rural communities are less high speed internet wireless is speed internet more. So there, and there is some of that now, but it's like ten megabits and hundred megabits and we're talking about gigabits over the air wireless, and it'll be your cell phones and everything right? So when it finally hits all the mobile networks, which is going to be a year and a half. But a lot of them are starting to look at how they can roll it out into houses. Because then he stand up a tower in for a couple of miles around that tower, you every house and give him five G connectivity. And the big deal to is the latency is going to be really low so late and see is how long it takes for your information to get to a server in back. So as a quick test. I pinged Google from my office. For my computer in the office to get to Google back. It was forty two milliseconds. They're saying in five G that should be more like ten or eight like it's going to be way way low just as a hobby. Couldn't do this for living his sent out the pain, just ping. Yeah. We troubleshoot with being a lot. So might bazaar is our solutions your food stories were still taking those you win enter into win tickets tomorrow night to Texas Tech versus I was state sold out. You can do. So a six seven four five fifty eight hundred is the call in number. We've got some entries on social media extra points. If you call in to the program five G coming could be a rural savior is that when I hear you saying, I think it'll be a big deal for it. It's higher density. So in cities, it'll be really good New York City Dallas Austin, even Lubbock when you get all those people packed into the Jones. How many times you've been in there? You pull your phone out at feel sluggish doesn't work at all ridiculous. Yeah. So if I'm this will be calling from aunt May's phone on Lassie. And if you look that's why in the Jones, there's a bunch of AT and T boxes all the way around and those are radios in attendance better have Reisen it works. Okay. But if you five G all of those people the densities are significantly higher. So it'll be very helpful in cities. And it'll be really really helpful. I think to rural because there's a ton of rural communities that have just crappy internet, and when you start making it cost effective to get out and service small rural communities with a single tower to it'll make huge huge difference. So when I hear you saying is the whole pitch is go get your five, G and your ringing interior cameras. So Jeff Bezos can see even sooner. Yeah. That's it. You want to make sure that he's got a real smooth experience of what's up next on your docket? There might bazaar. So the other one that came out of CAS that I thought was in. Interesting, and this is a startup and nobody's bought the service yet as far as I know. So don't go run off scared, but they have created artificial intelligence and machine learning algorithms to identify when people are sharing passwords for things like Netflix, Hulu. Wow. And so they were doing the math on it and net flicks based on people's answers from smaller surveys. They've done they think Netflixing losing something like two two and a half billion dollars a year on people. Sharon passwords, the future is here, and you're going to jail. Start cutting you off locking figure that out. Exactly, I you know, I I don't know what all the machine learning AI stuff going on in the back end like how they're doing the comparisons. But it's on the magic it's probably going to be looking at connections. And then similar, you know, like if you've got two different TV streaming and the connections are nowhere near each other. They can figure that stuff out based off IP addresses on a bunch of their back end stuff. And then what adding what you're watching? Yeah. And try to figure out and start flagging accounts to say that this is potentially suspicious. So again, Netflixing doing that. But the capability is out there. And at what point when you're losing two billion dollars a year. Do you not look at that and say, maybe this wouldn't be a bad idea to implement that? And so same thing they figure I think Netflix two two and a half billion Amazon through prime if people sharing that with something like five hundred million Hulu was around the same. There's a ton of these services that are losing a lot. Potential revenue because people are sharing passwords. I don't know anything about what you're talking about. You don't share your path David up stopped looking at me like. I've no idea, but they figured out. How talk us through the door side of how they hell. They figure this out. He has. So it's people that are smarter than me that are doing it houses that are close together. So one of the things in the league and do this with normal security like Microsoft has had this for awhile as if you just logged into your corporate network in New York, and then three hours later you logged in from Hong Kong, you're not in Hong Kong rights physically impossible to make that move. So it would flag it so they can do machine learning to say, okay? If you logged in, you know, location a, and then you log in location b in the timeframes don't match let's flag that if you logged in from these two locations, and maybe the timeframes meat, but it's unlikely is the viewing habits the same or they way different because it's even your siblings, or whatever probably watching different movies than you again here. College students dying. Yeah, we'll they're the big culprits. They said gen Xers are the most honest. All this that they've done so us. Yeah. You were were the honest guys we pay for the service, and then we give our passports out to I don't Xers and like Arna Balint heels in well on the other side of this. Because this always comes back to stuff we talk about it's dark web, right and people don't know the value of it. But you know, if I can go buy your Netflix password that somebody stole on the dark web for five bucks. You don't know that I'm quote, sharing your password. But really, I am right. You're still got your service. You're still paying for it. Netflix. Password costs five bucks on the dark, web, five bucks. And that's all five months five not five a month five bucks until you change your password. I've got access to your count. And so even if it seems funny are you going to do anything about it? You know, 'cause then this gets into people being lazy fiery set the net flicks password, I gotta type it in on three different TV's. And I gotta use a stupid remote and Africa just watchmen head flakes. I don't care, right. But that's why they're hacking your computer, and they're gonna try. Steal your net flicks password, but they're gonna take anything else they can value. So might bizarre bizarre solutions hanging out you need to go. We got bud, bud. But Kennedy Fort Worth star telegram coming up right here on the other side year calls about. We're just food aid. It somebody's gonna Kyle run for his money. Yeah. They probably will your calls about weirdest feed debated other people's houses food that your dog licking aided it anyway coming right here on the other side. He do the hailstones. Emily Jones for ABC Bank. A winning team means having the right players. Whether I'm at work or at home, I Bank on a team effort. That's why ABC is my Bank online or in person ABC Bank is there when I need them putting my needs. I they've actually found a way to put the I in team Bank on better with ABC Bank. Bush. Ford. We're all about a better car buying experience. 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All your bills all your stuff taking down to Lubbock foul room. They'll give you typically of destruction for free in hassle-free Esme, it give Lubbock foul room dot com. A call at eight six seven four four seven six six six today on the line. We have with us, bud. Kennedy. The Fort Worth star telegram for the first time right here on the program excited to have bud and the perspective that he brings the program. But how are you? Good to be broadcasting. The great west Texas this out quite great west, Texas impera bud you do food columns. So I'm gonna throw you a curveball just to start the weirdest food that you've ever had it. Somebody's house. Somebody's health. We gotta we gotta contests on for Texas Tech tickets right now. Cook the weirdest. That's question. The weirdest thing or food that your dog licked, and you ate it. Anyway. I've had I've had everything from from crickets to to rattlesnake and restaurants using of restaurants could not think of anybody who had that are how did you have crickets, but. One time you'll get to maybe keep doing this one time I got invited dad's versity political science department chili cook off. If you know, if you know, the Rice University, most of those things are not Texas. So they they killing the tip of the chili bowl were more like Curry's or they were digging. There was one that had auto what a what kind of and insects, and I have to say it was the weirdest chili cook. There wasn't anything Tex would considered killing. Okay. But you had crickets sin. Cricket. Cricket chilly. Cricket chillier something. I haven't haven't got out there. Enough of that. Like, welcome Olean green peas men on of restaurants down in Austin. My. Hey, but do you we have Ross Ramsey on the show every week? Who is the dean of Texas political journalism right now kin Herman, you Ross Ramsey who is what I can't hurt me along Ross's it longer of Ross has kind of level headed approach that they would have, you know, we still have to working for us in Austin Davy Jones from Abilene, and and he was in the west. Ram is now backing all been in Austin for some time. So Davey jail may be may be the dean with he. He's the day when he's working, and then in harmony with Davy Jones second day off, and we're gonna talk online 'cause I'm gonna figure this out because these guys are all too proud to have it figured out by these guys. I mean you included in that. I thought of sort all all I say that I'm Dana DSM ecologists, the first legislative session that I covered within. Wasn't. You broke out there. Nineteen eighty-nine. Okay. That I was at. I I went to spill it on them and knew about the legislature. And and we had a mock light before I actually moderated a thorough forum in hostile in nineteen seventy at Kennedy and of an had Rohner was the Republican nominee there. So I'm operating a forum. With the first two campaign actually session. I like it was nineteen eighty nine. That's pretty up there. I think a couple of dollars have been there. I haven't fast and take it away. I'm sick. I'm playing through the pain, you're gonna make me cough too loud. But Kennedy Fort Worth star telegram, bud. Forgive me for being reductionist it but talk to us because this is garnered national news talk to about the Muslim. This is how many Bill it the Muslim thing at the Tarrant county GOP talked to about what happened there. Well, what happened is that back in September? A new county chair who was was elected and some of them some of the Republican weren't happy with the way, he was elected. They thought that someone else was going to run for county chair. It was kind of the agreed on favorite up until the last moment of filing deadline that Candide jumped over two different race. And and the current chair file so you have dial eastern. He wasn't everyone sick. But he ran unopposed was. But it the effort of outrage as Tarrant county problems, a little more purple and prove to be becoming so in this last election one middle. He won Tarrant count had all predictions about. All scary words, the and Connie button was replaced in the Senate by Beverly Powell, and so you had this the Democrats Fort Worth and Arlington have been democratic majority cities for several cycles, but in Tarrant county, it's weird, you know, Houston, you have the Republicans living mcdumber Saudi in Dallas Republicans live in Collin county. Well on the parent county side of the Republicans live in the north half Attari in. So there are more than a million people north of Arlington. And so those those are the Republican person, and they the Alexis south part of the democrat with the two cities for that Arlington in the north part of the county's Republic. And it got a little more purple so tear in eastern. Appointed to vice tiers of outreach to try and broaden the party grow the party pointed crisper of Latino these his bidding politics for a long time that involved in the party. And then he appointed shopping, Dr Shafi virgin in south lake. He was elected to city council out there five years ago when he first elected for city tale. So the opponent had tried to run against just ran listeners campaign donors, and it just to say this these are Muslim supporting the Canada, it didn't work. He was elected. He's a very well like manning southlake and most of all these area much of social and fiscal conservative, even the northeast guarantee party folks, some of them like the power of praised in these he's a popular conservative councilmember in south lake. So they appointed him as vice chair. It was an appointment. Not an election of south of the Republicans. You had about three factions involved in this. In tears. You already weren't happy with the county fair and just wanted to be defiant. You had a couple of activists precinct hairs. We might lost some my. We might have lost him to check in on that gonna take a quick break in get bud. Kindy back on the line. That's what we'll try to do. Right here. Stick right with this great story about this Muslim boat. And how it went wrong there in Tarrant county right here on the other side stick right with this is we wrote. Howdy. Yes. I can hear you just fine. So. Got about three dollars. There's a factual is upset with a chair doesn't like anything. He does. There's a couple of folks who believe that all Muslims are part of a world conspiracy for jihad. And so that no muscle can be trusted. This is the conspiracy theory groups and Birger the people who have become pricing and controllers appraising carrots at electric, and then you had several folks large faction that is still believes in the old, Pat Robertson. That leaders should only be Christians that Ulla Christian should lead that everyone could participate, but only Christians should be elected as leaders. That was what Pat Robertson actually said in eighty now since then most of the leaders of the evangelical movement now say that leaders should only be people who believe in a higher power, and that has broadened the message, but they're still a few people that some of them were in the Sarah Palin movement campaign here early, they're they're still very devout. And they believe that only Christmas be elected. So they wanted to remove Muslim vice chair, and so you had this cut a little combination of people who were were misfits or malcontents or people with an ax to grind against the chair. And so among them all they managed to bring this to the floor and both of the loan and start available then they started invading September. And the. Ran out on their mating time on the least they had meaning space. So this is all delay for four months, which to which just letting momentum build a national coverage Bill when Sarah level who's afford SR receiving states any member posted on her big, protect, Texas pate. She was one of the people who organized all Republicans to stop Jerry Patterson from passing immigration, so it's a few years ago. Well, when she posted for her two thousand members to contact Taryn county right now that the Islamic Aisin of the Texas Republican party was at state that it was all going to start here right here in Tarrant county that made it a bigger new story. And that's when reporters started picking up people from all over the country started calling in and actually, and it went to the state executive committee was which passed a resolution saying that the Republican party is a party of religious freedom and religious liberty, and you had crews and Greg Abbott who both weighed in. And said that religious liberty is part of the core message the Republican party they both weighed in in favor of Dr southeast. So you got all the Republican powers that be saying that we want to be sure the party's hoping we want to welcome. Dr shopping. You had a lot of people here who were unhappy about it. They pushed it to a vote last Thursday came out one thirty nine to forty nine in favor of keeping as vice chair and one of those creasing cheers as since quit. So the one of the forty nine through his head on the stage right through his bad up on the stage. And and there may have been some other resignation that we don't know about. So yeah, he tossed his there were two chairs from inside the room. This was really. An eight county executive committee meeting where you had the New York Times. The Tribune the Washington Post network television. Oh gathered in this church. And of course, it was a closed meeting. The motion was brought up in closed session. So we could only cheer. We could hear the loud. Cheers. When the vote was given. And then there was another loud tear afterward. We all said what was that? And it turned out. It was for the one reason chair tossing his badge up on the stage. And you know, by this time, I think most of the precinct tears had gotten away from arguing over Muslim Jehad Islam, and they were just sick of the dissension and sick of the attention, and they wanted to support the idea of a big tent Republican party. And you say that, you know, we need to have we have Clark numbers in in Dallas Tarrant Collin county. They have large numbers of Muslim professionals doctors surgeons, you know, engineers psychologists, and that they they're fiscal conservatives social conservatives, and they need to have a home in the Republican party. Yeah. In. He'll bud. What's intriguing to us is, you know, Wes about thirty five is that. What's going on in Texas in Spokane been last week in Austin with Harvey Crom Berg Ross Ramsey, and it was talking about it was to the urban counties conference of urban counties in heal. My point was that that the suburban areas have picked up a tinge of purple really helps us because we don't have to look at console Dayton school districts out here, which are the lifeblood of every community in. I think that's why this in your last time, it'd be on the show. I think it's your ground zero for where things change. I don't I don't wanna put words in your mouth. But it seems you watching that vote the other night that that's something that may not have happen eight years ago. Right. It might have gone. The other way, it wouldn't have happened eight or six or even four years ago. But now the Republicans in Texas feel like they need to broaden the party's rhetoric against gay marriage is. Not as sharp you want about room. Bella, you will see bills against local control that will include non discrimination ordinances. You know, you see Republicans a little less harsh toward gay marriage. Almost pro marijuana in some cases, Texas drifting that direction willing to welcome conservative Muslims as allies particularly social conservatives. Yeah. And just willing to at least talk carefully governor abbots always talked carefully about Mexico in the border. So you can see that the that the Republican party wants to keep winning in in order to keep winning. They have to have forty percent of the of the fact vote, and they have to eliminate all the the disqualifications. It's kind of like a a fella going on a date with somebody. Who's a really great girl? You know, you you don't want to be disqualified on the first date you want to at least, listen and pay attention and just don't. Say anything on the first few days, if you can go out on three or four dates and still not get disqualified that chance the Republicans are trying to get rid of everything that makes them sound bigoted or makes them sound discriminatory. And it's part of the constitution. It's part of the state rolls. They that they are the the party of religious liberty. They can't go to Austin and talk about the religious freedom restoration act and restoring religious freedom if they don't seem to hold religious freedom. Yeah. So the they're trying to be sure that the parties open every this is we talk about fourth is the west begins, and this is kind of where the west Texas mentality that you about begins because you know, you go over east to plano, and you have the suburban districts, but Charlie guarantees work in Tarrant county for public schools is you know, what Charlie Aaron does here for and castleberry and for the for the public schools in his district dist- is caught aware that spirit begins of, you know, west Tex. Up holding the need for strong public school. But Kennedy at bud Kennedy on Twitter when it take you come. I know that we've spent more time than we expected to spend with you. But it's all been riveting. Appreciate you so many people asking me about that. I can just refer them to this podcast. Now a couple of things that you see emerging in this legislature head the inaugural today. A winter couple takeaways that you have going into the next one hundred thirty days. Yeah. Everybody's talking about getting things done quickly. And particularly it was interesting to hear the emphasis again today on fixing public schools. You know, some of the backdrop on that that that some legislator told me some lawmakers have said there were that next session, they'll be focused on redistricting session after that that make up the legislature may have changed. So the Republicans particularly in the house believe that this is the last chance to spend. The session fixing public school funding and doing something for public schools. It's always gonna be the the scales of Ardy focus more on public schools or more on limiting taxes. And I'm worried that those two are gonna get combined into one and that the focus is going to be more on limiting taxes, but the emphasis today on public schools, particularly from governor abbot was really heartening. It sounds like that yoga Lieutenant governor Patrick presented this budget with a five thousand dollar as for teacher thrilled for teachers want to hear more about schools, and what's being done for the schools and not just to pay teachers more. That's a great first step. But the governor abbots talk about teacher talk about schools seems to be sincere at I think that that's what he in the house wanna focus on. And I think that Lieutenant governor Patrick has his own ideas. Okay. In another thing you see sticking out. Well, I I mentioned the bath. Through mail, and we won't have a bathroom Bill, but we will have a couple of other very similar bills come up, and they're like, I say that the just the whole tamp down a local control and the governor talked about that today. You could see mayor by surprise of Fort Worth kinda making a face behind him. But the the whole taking away of local control of ordinances, including the anti-discrimination ordinances. That's that'll be the social battle this year along with. Allow a couple of other real lesser issues along that line religious freedom exemptions, where where you have you say, well, you know, you have to do this. If you if you if you're listen as opposed to it, and then you don't have to do this those bills some of those bills uphold religious freedom, but some of those Bill protect groups like the ku-klux-klan. So, you know, you wanna be sure and be careful about the religious freedom that you're not awarding special privileges to somebody that you never intend. He is. But Kennedy in his set himself, not the dean, but may be close their four star telecom out. I'll let you referee that day. But you right Collins when can people go to Fort Worth Star-Telegram, ac- your columns all right on star, telegram dot com. Twice a week that I tweet almost constantly at but Kennedy, and you know, and and I write about local news and politics right now, I'm at on an whatever. Challenger running against my price. So I write about local news and politics, and I also ride about Texas food and barbecue and chili steaks and burgers and all that that's on a separate that Twitter feed called eight speak. So love to hear from everyone in love. Thank you, bud. We appreciate time. Thank you, Jack head fun covering what you're covering. Thank you gonna get off with bud. Kennedy take a quick break and get in with another suggestion you in a winner contests. Eight six sim four five fifty eight hundred your most interesting food story. The win two tickets Texas Tech versus I was state sick right with the other side. How AJ west Texas Leeson hero until you about my friends at Flint Bhuttan had been building heads since nineteen ninety four and repairing boots against since forever. 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Potluck church potluck looked more like in the tempt at the Guinness world record for casseroles in one place at the same time. We can always count on the one and only family that would bring fried chicken. Thank you for the chicken says Brandon. I gotta tell you of everything I've read the day. It all makes sense. I see it all coming together. Kyle is the winner today in J seclude second licking the bird poop off of his arm. But cow to man up and call in the program and say, you know, what? My wife. I will I will drink or eat after my dog, but not my wife, that's some sort of resilience in. I think Kyle is definitely on his way being honest in being truthful in loyal in marriage when a think cow for his call. Hey tomorrow, we've got Thomas Mooney on the program, Texas music aficionado is going to be on the program. Ross Ramsey Texas Tribune, you got Texas politics from the expert Texas music from the expert come on. What else you got listening to on your way home on Thursday? We're gonna have our Christopher Collins from the Texas observer, call in and say, guess what? There are some towns in the Texas panhandle than are being repopulated. They're not losing population. They're being repopulated in their immigrants. Fascinating story. Christopher Collins there and then on Friday, we're gonna have Jeff Griffith city councilman my city councilman call in he's going to actually be here in studio with us in talk about what's going on Lubbock city council so four Mike bizarre and bud. Kennedy got to get home gonna get home. Great family average, above average dinner. I should say I'm gonna qualify that above average dinner waiting for me until next time Ravon buddies ray-ban, we'll see you next dishing of other side of Texans. Emily Jones for ABC bang life is a hustle as a busy, mom, wife and sports caster. There is never an extra minute in the day. I rely on ABC Bank to have my back. They have the tools I need to get my banking done on the go. 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FOF # 2879  You Dont Nomi: 25 Years of Showgirls

Feast of Fun

1:05:14 hr | 8 months ago

FOF # 2879 You Dont Nomi: 25 Years of Showgirls

"You have great tits. There really beautiful. Like Nice. Always have have actually. I like having least. Back to show off. I didn't like showing up cheated. Why not? Looking at him there everybody likes looking at. Me Feel like a hooker. You are a horde darling. No I'm not we all are. We take the cash. We cash the check. Show them. Let me loss. To. It's been twenty five years since showgirls hit movie theaters to confused and terrified public promoted as all about eve in a g string, the movie is demented roller coaster ride through the eyes of Nomi Malone and ambitious dancer who screams slams and screws her way to the top of a las. Vegas Showgirl Revue God s like Paul behoves previous film basic instinct. showgirls was supposed to be a star vehicle Elizabeth Berkley. Instead the saved by the bell actress spent the rest of her career wrestling with the trauma of being labeled the worst actress in the worst film in Hollywood history today, documentary filmmaker Jeffrey. Mikhail joins us to take a look at why people still. Still can't stop talking about showgirls all these years later, jeffries feature film debut. You don't know me, explores the themes of sexual violence camp, and outrageousness and Palmer hove films and interviews, a wide variety of fans of this cult classic, including our dear. Friend Peaches Christ listen as we take a look at how showgirls inspired early drag characters on social media like human resources Irene and Crystal Connors and how it was the bedrock of many of the great moments at of funds zone history. Darlan thinking new by nails for me now. Sugar sure why not a second thought. I'm a little too old for that Hori. Look you never too old for that Hori look. I'm Fausto for no I'm mark million, and this is feast of fun. Before we begin, let's listen to a clip of Elizabeth Berkley on David. Letterman promoting showgirls before critics and movie goers got to see it. Elizabeth was so excited about the role. She offered to give David Letterman a lap dance. Technically speaking, what is? Is, illegal in most. Detail, what is it exactly? I would do it for you, but you're. Sensors would have thrown off. Johnston I'll tell you that on. Basically, it's it's about seduction. The woman basically. And it's about power, and the woman basically is being paid to seduce and to. Sit on my lap yet. Well, let me just say one thing. I'M NOT GONNA. Show you the whole thing. These are things you have to see in the movie, but this is the basic musician. Hey Hi. Is this Jeffrey? Mchale? This is Jeffrey. It's mark and Fausto from Feast of fun. How are you great, guys? How are you doing great? I am a big Fan of the movie. SHOWGIRLS and I've been anticipating your documentary film. You don't know me. I. Know that you've been working writing about this film for a long time and I have to say a must be weird now. Not having them all. Come over you like that. Well Yeah you know. I missed that I missed that. It's not the same for you saw this film at a film festival in two thousand five. You say you change your life forever. It did I was actually. You Know I. Think it was the via screening in. Two Thousand Fifteen so it was actually the end of the film. You don't know me. We Have Elizabeth Berkley introducing the film to a crowd of four thousand people I was actually one of those four thousand people so we you know living in La you know. We go to those screenings every summer and sometimes because it's La and because most people live here If someone wants to participate, or someone wants to save, few words who was in the film, they might they might join the the event. Event, but I don't think any of US ever expected. You know misnomer. Malone would be there in person, and it was just amazing. It was yeah. I can imagine the crowd just kind of went wild like us. It was a surprise to everyone. Right Oh. Yeah! I, mean, it was a complete surprise I mean the the guy introduced the film. He he comes out there in kind of gives his introduction, and then he says and I. Think I have somebody here. Who from the film that wants to say a few words and There's just audible gasps. You know and people like what what what and then all. There was like this delay until when Pe- until which he walked out until would she stepped in front of the the camera where she was projected on the wall to and so there was this slow gradual like audible gasps that gradually made its way to the back where we were, and it was just incredible I, mean she? She said something that really stuck with me that that night was. This was the first time in twenty years that she was going to experience the film with a crowd that embraced. What A GAG! It's insane. Like part of it is like for people are not familiar with the film showgirls. It's Paul Verhoeven most controversial film, even though he's made equally outrageous films that certainly put. Violence Fantasy Sexuality Exploitation of people, Front and center, and and this film above all his other films, a really at the time was rejected very viscerally by the press and the general public in preparing for this interview like I went online and watch Elizabeth Berkley having a conversation about the film with David Letterman, who had not seen the film? She's like doing lap dances for him. So Elizabeth Berkley really anticipated that the public was going to embrace her. As this very mature actress, she was shedding off Jessie, Spano, from safe, the bell and the film came out, and the public went. What the hell with Roger Ebert, and this is somebody who wrote the film beyond the Valley of the dolls so Roger. Ebert is no stranger to camp to the. The over the top sexuality and nudity and hijinks of the film showgirls. He rejected. Yeah, yeah, I mean everybody at that time rejected it. You know I mean, but then looking look at who the critics were all mostly white straight men who reviewing films at the time, but yeah, I mean I I think it also just looking at coming off of basic instinct and. And and what? That movie did for Sharon Stone. You know one of the one of my contributors. David Schneider said something that is so true that that you know when you watch basic instinct, you're watching almost like the birth of a movie star you know in front of your eyes and Sharon stone had been another films. You know before that, but that that role solidified. Solidified her I heard that she didn't know that. The leg crossing scene was being filmed from the angle of vagina, and she was furious about it. Yeah, yeah, she felt deceived. He basically said Oh. You know we need you to take off your for the shot or something like that to that extent. She got suspicious when he put the camera right there on the. What you know. I mean BECA. I think the the the call. The end of those monitors onset. They probably weren't as as good as they are. Now you know. But you know I think she even said like he he you know. He deceived me to do that, but you know. He made the right decision for the role for the movie. It was the right choice, so you're you're saying. Basic instinct was a star maker vehicle for her. Yeah, definitely shower. Lisbeth Berkeley was thinking this was going to be the same kind of model. Oh, I, mean yeah I mean just reading the script, I mean she's in every scene in the movie, I mean I it's it's the the the she is the movie. Nomi Malone is showgirls and don't you think she would have gotten a little suspicious? Though reading that script because every scene she's in. She yells at somebody and then slams the door on her way. This is my friend. Now me. She's a dancer to. Yes. She's really good. Chance at Darwin. Cheetah. I don't know how good yard island. What it is you could at. The Cheetah. It's not dancing. I know that much. Shit! A. Stage Direction the state store. No me exits seen angrily. She. She read the script, and in and one of 'em even mentioned that at that night at a spear there. She said she read the script she. Called Producer! She got herself an audition she. You know really really saw that. That was really something that was important to her. She thought it would be a great. Character to take wanted to be a part of the movie and she made it happen now. The critics came out. It was universally pan mostly like you said by Sir Straight. White, man I think you know with the revelations around Hair Harvey Weinstein and the whole metoo movement do feel like the show would have received a different kind of reception nowadays. Yeah I mean I I. Don't think a movie like this probably would be made. People said what was the the death of that genre of film. You know that kind of erotic thriller. showgirls kinda killed that genre and you know I. think that a lot of the sex nudity that you know once. You had to go to movies to see now what's on? TV I mean that's where you know. People are pushing pushing boundaries with as far as sexuality goes. You know well. That's the thing about you know. campy films is that when filmmakers have gone out to make or capture that lightning in a bottle again? It doesn't come across as successful because they're aware of their the double entendre. They become you know and there's a there's a certain knife quality to the film showgirls and I think like God you know it's interesting to see the dynamics. Dynamics between gene occur. Sean who plays Cristal Connors and Kyle. mclachlan, who plays the show's producer that you know most of the actors and that we've interviewed here on the podcast. Have All said we knew this was something really strange, but we decided to go along with Paul's direction. Gina Gershon says. I was in on the Joke Kyle mclachlan Patrick Bristow. They all felt like it was a strange project, but they didn't realize how strange it would be when it finally hit the screens. Was In on the joke except Elizabeth Berkley I don't buy that. It's so hard to set. You Know I. think that you know obviously Gina gets. is perceived as being you know having some level of awareness to the role in the part, and I think you know she does play that character, a crystal Connors with more of a wink and a nod. Back here. What are you doing here? What. Am I doing here? On the finest cocaine, the world darling you want saw. It's great for the muscles. But I think with her and Kyle. They also had other films and other roles. You know They had a whole other career to kind of fall back on. You know so I, think that when Elizabeth Berkley this was her first major film role outside of saved by the Bell, and so people were less forgiving, maybe but and it's hard to kind of figure out like Oh. You know what was. What was the understanding? What was the intent I mean? That's part of the allure of of showgirls. is what what was everybody thinking but kind of going back and looking at the way that the the people involved have talked about the film and defended the film or explained the film you know in the last twenty twenty five years. Their answers kind of waiver. You know like I it just kind of they fit to kind of the conversation that we're having about it now, so one of the interesting. Interesting things about no me. was you know this isn't a traditional behind the scenes making of story of showgirls? This is how we as the audience have have lived with it how our relationship to it continues to evolve in how we're not done with it. And so that was kind of where I thought. You know where I wanted to kind of focus the conversation, and so when you say the film Change Your Life. What was the most profound change you saw? I mean just as far as what. I mean I would it'd be. It'd be having conversations like this I mean this was my first. My first film you know I grew up making movies. My own films and kind of transitioned into television editing after college and Kinda put away, you know, put my kind of aspirations of filmmaking aside and just said okay. You know I'll be good. Editing Editing TV, and whatnot and I just thought that after that that screening I thought this was the perfect kind of subject that that you know was worthy of exploration, and I knew something that I could do on my own, and that was one of the interesting things is i. made this movie from my kitchen table for my laptop? That's really impressive. Have you ever been to LAS VEGAS BEFOREHAND? I actually had yeah I. WE ME and my husband when we moved from Chicago to L. A. WE DROVE, we did the road trip and we had one night in Vegas and it was It was just insane I got way too drunk house. You gotTA SPAGO and drink crystal. We say we stayed at the Riviera actually but we went to the one. Gabe are on the Strip I can't remember the name of it. Did you shop adverse ace? No we did it. We didn't. We weren't there long enough. Yeah, Aubrey O'Day with made an appearance. That night at whatever club we were add There was a an incident with a mouse on our car. When we were trying to check in the hotel, it was a very traumatic, intense eighteen hours and then. Spent the next eight hours on the way. To Los Angeles, you know massively hung over the funny thing about showgirls is that it's a love letter to the city of Las Vegas in an all its complexities and exploitation of one thing that I feel like the film didn't capture all the like people standing on the sidewalk going. flicking cards at you to go see their shows. And I don't know if that's still happening by when. I started going to Las Vegas. It was for podcasting conventions and for us. The film showgirls is intertwined with the history of podcasting and our interviews with the cast and Connoisseurs of the film peaches Christ. And for us, it was it was something that. Bonded US and brought us all together in into this kind of weird community of fans of this film, if fucking for this fiery fucking because you want to. Say He did this. So Crystal, you don't want to Piss me off darling now that we're friend now you shouldn't pissed off. Makes you look older? In so much that before there was dragged on, we talked about with Jesus Christ about. Being dot con. A conference of fans of the film showgirls because at that time. A into. Berkeley started embracing it. A lot of people were just like really kinda fascinated and one of the earliest things one of the. Biggest weirdest things was this fake facebook account called human resources Irene, which was status updates from the perspective of Iran's. She's the actress that goes deceased. The personnel. Formation. Data birth seven, three seventy-three. Place the birth. New York New York New York. Nearest family members. I don't have any family. Deceased. So in the early days of Facebook, you could become friends with human resources Irene and she's like. About all the human resources violations that take place at the Stardust Hotel. At one point in time, there was a nomi Malone on facebook at Crystal Connors. Human Molly. And I think we knew at least one one of the people that did Cristal Connors, right those gymnasts right up Jim National. Nobody else came forward and said that they were human resources. Irene, but I can't. Even resources I read on. Facebook gave birth to a lot of office. Worker drag Queens I pretty sure. Finance probably. Kind of same world. And that that's the thing about the film showgirls, you know it's this outrageous. Million Dollar Big box disaster that had a second life at a time when we as a society felt that we were very savvy and cynical to some degree that it was impossible to create another rocky horror picture show kind of phenomenon, and you know with Jesus Christ the on for twenty years after this film was made produced shortly afterwards. And certainly misunderstood in New York City also was doing similar things. They were doing campy midnight showings of showgirls to sold out crowds and peaches developed her audience based on the San Francisco reaction to it. In fact, I would argue. I don't know if you've ever seen a lot of peaches this shows but. Her production of showgirls I would argue as one of her best works as a as a play right and. Stands on its own because it doesn't rely on the celebrity of the guests to carry the public. Passion for this spectacle was trying to say you don't need a girl from Rupaul, drag race to come and sell the tickets. It's hard to pack a theater. It's like the Castro theatre, a huge space and for peaches. It's like she's been very successful in getting the public excited about interviews with you know celebrities in artisan and collaborating with these. Personalities, but showgirls for pizzas. Christ is this weird wonderful? Once in a lifetime opportunity was her and her friends from college, recreating and putting on this film and coming up with lines. Like what is it you like? Doggy Chow to wet or dry. It's so good. Yeah, in the that she finds. You know they each they always. Do you know the what she said like? The entrance is always the same, and then they'll find various scenes to. Do you know for each of their show, so he's like over the twenty years. You know we probably have done the whole movie. When I saw the film showgirls I imagine that you wanted to watch it again and again 'cause it was something that really made you laugh, and was this kind of guilty pleasure. Absolutely I mean. It was one of those you know I was probably a little too sheltered. When it first came out to to to see it under a why it took me so long, maybe it was just the ad campaign, or you know I didn't I didn't think it was for me, and then you know after moving to Chicago I saw with a friend we were. Were hanging out one night and his apartment and showgirls came up, and he found out I never saw it, and he looked walked over to his DVD shelf in in popped it in the TV, and you know it just. It's pure magic I mean with just the within the first few ministers. It's like Oh my God. Is this really the movie? And then you just don't want to end I mean I, I mean everyone I talked to had very similar kind of experience with it. Where someone you know you were shown by somebody and I feel. Feel like that is you know one of the great things about camp films is is it's it's exposing you know friends, and like minded people to it without a doubt life-changing. Exactly we showed it to a young man wants it. Was this guiding that I. saw this I'll tell you this little story, so I'm on the train coming home one day, and I see this guy sitting across from me, and he looks like a male version of Elizabeth Berkley. Young probably like eighteen nineteen years old, big giant, like chipmunk cheeks, chiselled jaws, big, giant, Brown eyes and And blonde hair, and he gets off of the same stuff I get off at, and I'm just like okay so that he's going the same direction I'm going and I'm like Oh. Is he going to turn left or right up here and I said well. If he turns right I'll I'll follow. Just go home. If he turns left I'll follow him and go to Clarkston Clark the bar, so he turns laughs that I've just kind of like. Follow him, and I'm like I'm GonNa go to the bar because I'm coming home after work after bartending and then. He you know he kind of made is at me on the train. And then he comes to his courtyard building, and he kind of enters the courtyard, but then slings back and his hanging off the pole, and he's like have a good night. That was just kind of like shocked that he says I'm just like. Yeah, you have a good night to. kind of like scurries away and I. go off to the bar. They tell us oh, my God I met this guy. He looks just. He looked like though Malone you know at this point in time I. Don't know what the deal is with how. I was waiting for him to pull it. pull a knife on you. So that were at this restaurant and he ends up being our waiter like a pancake house or something like that and I was having a birthday party. He's just say hey. Why don't you come to our Party? And he goes okay. You know so. He comes to the Party and it's all a bunch of Queens right. He walks in and I'm like you guys, everyone, Nomi, Malone and. And, they're like Oh God, he looks like no will, so we sat him down at this party and put him in front of the, and he watched a showgirls pretty much by himself, because everybody else already seen it, and that he was just like doubt, movie was incredible, so guess what he does. He ends up becoming a stripper and moves. Vegas Oh my never heard from him again. The path of him was he felt that Peter felt that. This film really connected with him, and so he got into bodybuilding, and naturally as a consequence he got into stripping a dancing at clubs, and as a consequence of that he started doing private lap dances, his his life mirror the fictional life of the character of Nomi Malone and just like in the sense that when he moved to Las Vegas. He had a lot of interpersonal problems, so did as well, and we ran into him like several years later after all that stuff. He's like you know that movie really kind of messed up his sons. And I felt really bad. Because in a Lotta ways as us as lgbtq people, we have this kind of language to navigate intense films like this one, but I think. Thinking mostly identifies as heterosexual, but just like kind of Lisbeth Berkeley, he somebody craving a lot of attention, and so his sexuality then becomes something for him to negotiate with right so in the film showgirls Nomi Malone pretty much has sex or flirts with everybody. Right and in this case you know Peters, sexuality was up for grabs and I hope that he's in a better place now like we lost complete touch with this guy, but he for. Major dancer and the Chicago Gay. Nightclub Scene Yeah. Yeah! I mean well. Many. People have a story like that, but. They affect people different ways. You know hopefully, if peters out there and he's listening to this, let let us know and hopefully all turned out. Okay for you. I mean because we're going back to I mean this is twenty five year. This is not this is. Because it's a twenty five year anniversary of showgirls, yeah, so Jeffrey today like in terms of the impact and the influence that this film has had on filmmakers and portraying sexuality and films. What what what do you make of it like it? Has showgirls influenced anybody except you know awesome, new and pizzas. Random strippers or I think there's you can probably pull out threads and references. You know in a lot of films and TV shows, and in characters, but yeah I think one of the one of the real interesting things is just the Lgbtq community in Queer people, and the way that we we connect with it, and we use it the way that we connect with each other, and you know the lines, and and just the references just becomes part of our lexicon, and and you know it's it's this thing that we that we love and Yes, I I think that's that's kind of the beauty of it lies. You know what I really loved about your your to is how you showed showgirls in the milieu or of. Work like you can't really look at showgirls just on its own because to understand the film, you also have to see some of his other films, and he had a lot of like reoccurring themes. Almost sometimes, it seemed like scenes where, but same scene from another movie was in this kind of thing it almost as though he's kind of talking the same story, but in different kinds of ways over and over again. Yeah I mean a lot of his films, Emmy. He repeats. Motifs and themes, and and you know kind of tropes and. Just in when I started the project, I you know after reading everything that had been written about showgirls i. just for my own curiosity was like all right well, I should watch all of Paul's early films I mean I'd I had seen his American film. I mean that's how you know we. We know pulver Hogan is. You know Total Recall Robocop, starship troopers, and these these sci-fi blockbusters, and so most for most people I. Think showgirls doesn't really make sense. You know when you look at. His American films book once I started to go back in and watch all early films I mean. It was just amazing to see these threads in these these motifs and these weird little moments that you know you can't really explain in showgirls that have roots. In his early careers, and I wanted to find a way to to connect showgirls with the rest of his films and. To do that visually and make like a new subplot where you know the characters in his other films or their experiences are interacting with. The contributors in no man and in with showgirls, so it was just seeing these you know that the chips and the nails and consumption of dog food, and like people vomiting over the place I mean it. It was just. I I I basically had every film loaded into my editing system, and I would just drop a marker every time you know and I would put like nails vomit. Anytime something because it was. After watching like the first two. I'm like okay like. A like something's going on here. I wanted to find a way to kind of keep track of it all. It certainly gave me a lot of different perspective on it. especially with total recall, it's now I see Arnold Schwarzenegger is kind of basically Nomi Malone in space, right? By the. But is GONNA fight against. It's uh-huh. I was surprised that Paul. hoving actually had another weird sex pool seen in another movie. and mark and I actually tried to recreate that. By you can't. Seem are without somebody underneath you holding you up unless you're trained I. Don't think I think you know when they actually film that there was probably somebody and scuba gear underneath a Elizabeth Berkley holding her up, so she could flap around the pool like that or there was a chair or some kind of stuff. There was so hopefully something technical about filming. Way. Yeah I mean yeah. It's a repetition of of the lap dancing to you know. Mirroring of that and there was clearly no one holding holding her up or I mean maybe there was well i. mean you and your husband like when you get into a swimming pool? Do you guys like look at each other like don't think. Don't no, no, no I mean it's. It's Hilarious I. Mean You make jokes all the time? It's hard not to, but. Yeah and then then it just to see those other. Similar moves and He just has you could just tell. The way he directs the his actors and the characters. Yeah, and flesh and blood. There was a very similar kind of bathtub pool scene. And it just it just kinda mind blown. You talk about in the documentary that showgirls concludes this camp trilogy of Valley of the Dolls Mommy, dearest and showgirls. Film critic, and you know gay icon Michael Must. He describes it as Valley of the dolls beyond the valley, dolls and showgirls. Why to you like is the film Mommy Dearest so critical in grouping with these other films. I can't take credit for that, so that was. Jeffrey Conway who wrote this book of Poems, showgirls, the movie in Tina's and it is an incredible breakdown. He basically takes every the title of every chapter, and the DVD, and finds different ways to inhibit the story, the movie the characters. And so for one of the Chapter I mean he, he he kind of held the trilogy of Camp Complete and Basically saying that you know the these three films were after seeing showgirls. I mean I mean he felt like that. The trilogy was complete so after you know. Loving Valley of the dolls and loving mommy dearest for you know for those years and the interesting thing about those three films as they're all fourteen years apart, too, so they're kind of evenly spaced. Really you know we are yeah. That's amazing, eared, well part of it like what they share in common is about the city of American culture and rugged individualism that pits. People against the world, and uses fame, and the success of fame, and the insatiable quest thirst for that. In. Bringing up a lot of moral depravity, right so. In terms of Valley of the dolls beyond the Valley of dolls is very similar films of these starlets. I think beyond the valley of dollars is mostly. Musicians than it is anders and then. A Mommy Dearest, certainly you know, focuses on the life of Joan Crawford, which to me. That's why feel like it doesn't really dovetail very well with the other two films, but the other films were kind of like you know Meant to be serious kind of films right, but ended up being all of them ended up. Camp classics well beyond the Valley of the dolls. That was intentional exploitive. Was it was meant to be exploitative was meant to be wild and crazy, and it was even more outrageous than even painted. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think that it's the look at the way that those films also were treated amongst the press, and the way that they're stars were treated to I mean you can see you know a common threads that run through the reception of his films, and and then the eventual embrace the the queer community, too. So rena riffles had a hard time. Well she she of all the actors in the film. She plays Penny Hope. Nobody wants to fuck a penny when the fuck right. See Serious He. She rena riffle. She for a longtime was embracing the film chooser involved with Peaches Chrysler productions, and she even put out an album of songs inspired by a character that she created from the film trash umbrella, and then she did. A sequel showgirls two pennies from heaven from heaven. And, you know th the films are not you know they're? They're really just kind of home movie. Quality kind of things going on there then Rena. Riffle for a while had a really. I guess. She fell in love with somebody and she decided she didn't want to be associated with film anymore, so she abruptly cut off. Our relationship says she ad, and now she's kind of going back and forth with it. Is this kind of dance? The actors have with this film and embracing. It is really kind of the dance that Hollywood has with just human sexuality in general. And I think that I. Mean who who knows what you know what that experience was like for. You know those people involved in how it affected their career, and I'm sure that you know there's a lot of there's pain there. You know in some some some aspect of that experience. So you know I don't put too much. Blame or you know emphasis on This wavering kind of support over the film. Because yeah, it's hard to I'm sure it was a hard experience hard thing to. To to go through a for everybody, Gina Gershon had committed to doing a broadway musical version of showgirls before the actual showgirls musical was staged. I did not hear that interview. You know they were like. Do it alone in an interview and they were like, would you? Like what sure they all come back for a sequel, wouldn't they? I? Don't know about that I don't think site. Just seemed absolutely crushed by. Are you kinda surprising? She wasn't able to kind of like. I mean so many other people have have had some real bombs in their career like sally field was in the flying nun, and she was able to go beyond that so many people and I think that's what like you know. It's as fans. That's what you you want I mean you want there to be some you know acknowledgement or you want there to be. You know kind of like a piece and to. To know that how much this movie in this this role in that character you know means to so many people, and so I think that why that's why then that moment you know at the Sin Spear, which is so incredible for for all of us, you know because yeah, you want want want those involved to just to know how much it means, and into just enjoy in this afterlife in the embrace and. Because they deserve it. How disappointed were you in dancing with the stars that Elizabeth Berkley would choose the save for the BOM moment. Saved by the bell moments. And not touch on showgirls at all. That was pretty disappointing, but you know, but at least it shows you know there is some you know. She's having fun with some of those roles and who knows maybe there was some stuff with ABC you know as to why why they couldn't do certain things, but but yeah I mean I love. The the I'm so excited. I mean that was just amazing. Jazz Jazz, or whatever jive pills? The guy who came up with save with by the, but he wrote it right whatever he he he. He's like eighty something years old now and. He was really surprised by showgirls when it came out. Yeah I I'm sure. Lynch. Who Plays Henrietta Zoos? I'm a dancer. You're a dancer, but. The fucking Virgin Mary. Dan You're the only one who could not. Right. To pass on you to give you a clue. She got a second career. An orange is the new black, which is the new black. Yeah. They I mean that's. Yeah all the actors I mean they. They've all gone onto other things. You know I. Mean Even Pulver Hoven I mean he. He has a Golden Globe now Golden Globe winning film and you know he's still making films over in Europe. But yeah, you know it's Did He never make another American film after that right he did he had. starship troopers was already kind of in the works, and then hollow man was the last Hollywood Hollywood film, or, and for people not familiar hollow man is Kevin Bacon recently, because like invisible man as the invisible man, but the becoming the invisible man makes him into A. Again homicide, old killer rapist monster. Yeah, yeah, which is funny. 'cause Paul has given an interview ABC forget when maybe it was tanner, so years after showgirls, but he he basically said something something to the extent of of showgirls would have been succeeded succeeded, or what better received had their Bene- serial killer in it Oh. It's yeah. I would definitely think the Hays Code Influence Hollywood still to this day. That were in the past few could show sexual. Topics or or any Wendo and as long as you had A. Punishment for that. In fact, the character of Dr Franken furhter death is very important in the mainstreaming in rocky horror picture show actually a lot of people don't know. was actually a commercially successful film. And actually. Let, a green lit. This independent film made by a Young College Student George Lucas. Star. Wars would not have been made had a rocky horror picture show not been successful at it was, and in fact, a lot of the trans the conventional from the Transylvanian. Conference right the unconventional conventions. especially, that tall guy who eats the cake in that scene, he was a standard for true in the first star wars film. And the casting agency is called the ugly agency. Assistance in the UK. A? Son In my resume. They just need a photo. Now Elizabeth Berkley in an attempt to wrestle with the complicated relationship that Hollywood has with feminism and sexuality. She came out with a book. A while back called ask. What was it was a ask Elizabeth where she was giving real answers to everything secretly wanted to know about love friends, your body and life in general, and she started a nonprofit foundation for for young women. What happened to all that? That's a good question I don't. I mean she's a Vegan and if she. Promotes that that lifestyle to and? Not Not Yeah not sure. What's What's going on with the nonprofit? But yeah I, we we. Didn't reach a certain, didn't talk to any of the cast and crew, so you know those around the time period where every celebrity started. Probably, doing their own nonprofit charity and he knows people started going like. Is this a tax write off for like? Really sincerely here. Just in helping other people I'm. Children's Books Children's book to become something better for sure. Yeah everyone was writing. Children's books in terms of. The impact of making this film, you didn't use any actual captured footage. All you did was kind of PODCAST, right? You interviewed people and you. Edited existing clips to make the film do. EXACTLY SO I! Basically, we had a conversation similarly to the way that were. We're talking now I had audio kit that I would mail each contributor and we would log on to skype in. You know we could see each other. You know through the computer, but. And we would just chat for you know ninety minutes two hours about showgirls ahead certain points. I wanted each each each person to hit and to discuss, and then after the interview was done, we boxed it up and shipped back to me, so I did that for about nine months, and then started just kind of transcribing all the interviews and and scraping everything and trying to get a good layout in. I started kind of scene by scene, and and thought by thought, editing wise, and in just using showgirls, and then, and then once I started to kind of start doing some more archival stuff and look at looking some of the news news reports and interviews given the time, and then you know once I started watching all with Paul reubens films I mean then it just kind of opened up this other This whole world that you know I wanted to kind of explore. And who had the biggest draw difficulty using basically recording their voices, peaches or hoving? Well, no beaches was a pro of course she was. Yeah I know she was great. There were technical issues. There were no technical issues Yeah, it was just a very nerve wracking two two, and a half days of waiting for the kids to come back, because that was where the master audio was on their end, and so I, was just like God. I hope I hope everything is arrived safely. I mean it always did. Well the early days podcasting the Director Abou. Star GALACTICA had his own podcast where he would just record himself. Into a portable audio recorder. And A. DEROGA-. anyways, I'll google later. Mark! Type and search. So! Yes, so anyways. He would do this podcast and he would. Sell more Ronald more would send his living room drinking some Scotch and lacked on each episode battle, Star Galactica and Loading the audio of the Internet he would put that in a Fedex package. Send it to his assistant in Las Vegas and Los Angeles, and they would upload it to the Internet and we were sitting at a conference in Las. Vegas of all places where he was talking about this to Andrew. PODCAST and everybody gassed thinking how inefficient! But? In hindsight, you know a lot of people do have a hard time like uploading. To the Internet to this day, and so it makes sense to sort of having somebody. Send all that equipment back to you. Yeah, I mean I, give them yeah. I, mean basically just box it back up in the box came with preprinted Fedex label. I tried to make it as easy. Not As many favors as I tried to cut down on the favors I was asking them. To help get me my stuff back, but I mean everyone was great. Why certainly you know very much enjoyed watching the movie and certainly it's. You know. I feel like we're left with more questions than answers still twenty five years later with showgirls and you know there are so many things that happened in that film peaches Christ describes it. She says it's a very. Efficient film in the twists and turns that goes through that where there's always something happening every single moment of the film up until the very end where it sort of mirrors itself, and you know me. Malone is kind of law like. A malevolent force of any described right because she leaves Las Vegas in ruins, and now she descending on Hollywood's heading tally would. Yeah, you just yeah. You don't even need to write the sequel. You can just imagine it, and that's what makes the ending so satisfying is that you have this ending that where your imagination just runs wild Do, you have. An idea of where you think she what she does in La. Who? Well you know. What does she say she she's? She married the nephew of one of the richest designers in the world probably became a vegetarian. She ditched the Burgers. What else? Is this real. With Berkeley's. which she married. Ralph Lawrence. Well it seems like let's Berkeley did like brown rice and vegetables after all. She did she did even though she craved that Burger fries and soda. We were just watching it again. The other night was like what who order is that during the middle of a rehearsal? I, she probably has touch dog. Food and years is like. I have a can of Alpo. Bacon Double Cheeseburger, some cheese fries and a big gulp of Dr Diet Pepper. And Five, six, seven eight. I was like no other. She's vomiting throughout this movie. There's a puppet comedy. Company. Ensemble called Harvey Finkelstein who actually performed in the early feast, fool shows with us here in Chicago and they had an. Festival sensation called sock puppet showgirls I heard about this. Yeah, I could never find. I heard and read a couple articles that referenced it and I tried to find more. About it, but I was never able to Kinda to. Put the pieces together to be more happy to introduce you to the They're still doing stuff whom I got. That's amazing. Yeah the Hud. No yeah, it's just interesting. How many different things it spawned in created, and you know musicals and poems and sock puppets an you know. Someone just released a coloring book showgirls. Oh really so so. Elizabeth Berkley like thrusting it and Mike. Patrick screaming at her exactly. Yeah, you know that activity. He a lot of his lines in the film. Actually he improvised them. Because I think third interview with. Her and so DO PK turn. Nomi is something that he inserted into. The script call for something else. He's like they wouldn't say this. Yeah, like what would they say he's like? Do Cater like okay. Sure it works. He doesn't matter. Kinda says they had an idea. Things were getting a little weird. Because that whole thrust, it thrust it thing. It was just like he said he was doing it. In for homes is like more. More and so then he's just I'm just GONNA. Go crazy over the top and do it more. And then I did it like that. He's just like okay. That's it and he's just like no way I. Read a story where he didn't the actors. Do they talk about? How like some of them like Columbine Glock you? Are they mentioned in your in your film. This idea that the the. As a full drama I think that they probably had that in their mind, but every now and then they got a little inkling, or like this is weird, or and so and now in retrospect that maybe that little tiny moment stands out more for them now than it originally did. Yeah and who knows how many other takes they did or you know how. Very the each performance. was you know and then you know maybe just in the edit it got it got crazier and crazier. Now another thing that people don't realize about showgirls and I'm wondering if you picked up on this. It's a Christmas movie. It is it is I actually we put a video highlighting all the Christmas references. In in showgirls! In the beginning though it starts off in Hal there's kids, trick or treating in the background Yeah, it tracks. Some of the holiday, yeah, like who what trick or treaters are our kids? Their parents are going to let their kids off on the. You Know Vegas trip to trigger trace is amazing. I'll tell you that I don't inhale the ones that look like little Glass vials. You snap. Yeah, but they skip over thanksgiving. We don't ever get a Thanksgiving moment. I wonder if that was just left in the cutting room floor. Yeah, maybe maybe it was Thanksgiving happy. With the Tampon at one point and She's not actually she. That's why. I got towels baby. She, said she a Tampon, and you could feel it, and so he sticks his hand down her pants. She's having her period. And then he states that many pulls out his fingers are wet and he smells them. James Smith Yeah. You got to talent for it to be right, so she didn't have a Tampon in there. I don't think so Jeffrey. Can you clarify that no I think I? Think there. There was a no Tampon I think that was what yeah? Yes, yes. That's why he says I got tells baby. Here, you can stick your hand down there and feel it or some I don't know. About it so. That's how I remember it vision nest history. James Smith a lot of these actors also lived on in law and order. Orange is the new black and you know. I guess I'm I'm wondering you know? Have we grow? How are we better as a society like? Can we embrace sexuality in a healthier way, and maybe at this film might not get made because we're just would look at something like this and say you know this is glorifying. Violence against women and you know it's something we as a society. We WanNA see anymore. Yay. I mean that's a lot of. That question comes up a lot as you know. Have we learned anything? Have we? You know with this? Get made again. I mean I. Don't think he would get this movie like this. We get made you know if we're you know. They probably have a female director attached to it but yeah I I think that I mean just looking at the way in which the film and the. The Were were criticized and talked about and made fun of you. Know I mean I I. Don't think we've. Learned much of the lessons that we probably should have learned. You know twenty five years ago. I mean just look at the way. The we you know the way we re critique things in the we fun of celebrities in you know just the yeah. Just showgirls was just became. A pylon was easy. It was easy target for a lot of people, and I think that that's something that were used to doing in just looking at the way in which film has been embraced, mean it does challenge. The idea of you know what is good. What is bad? What's a failure? What's the success? You know because it's been all of those things at one point you know. And certainly if you're going to have monkeys, n a Las Vegas. showgirls review. Make sure they're wearing diapers and don't let them shape. Don't don't feed them garlic. Swear that. Why is there something like zoological about feeding monkeys garlic? I have never heard that I've never heard of that. I think it just because the the monkey shit smells about. She thought it was garlic, right? I thought. Yeah, now we're here. We're debating what was. I was I, was under the understanding that they were eating something. They were eating garlic, but may be. In May maybe gave him the shits. They make babies. Yeah, they make baby. Bring your children to the backstage when there are people running around naked during cocaine. The Teddy Bear. Mambi yeah I wonder why they. showed the that dads are with her children. I guess it was civil disorder like capture the wide range of stories of women's experience because. Paul Verhoeven and Joe Eszterhas spent a lot of time, and even the actors themselves just talking to people in Las Vegas in the industry. Yeah that was one of their. I mean Paul wrote about that in his book of essays. He kind of detailed their their ventures in Vegas and they went out there to explore and they first with the big. You know the big casinos in the the the managers, the dancers and you know just everybody. That was a part of those shows because they knew that that's where they wanted to focus the story, but they. Didn't find anything what they thought was interesting they where they found that was at the CD strip clubs the way they They describe, and he talks rewrites about you know. Getting lap dances, and you know what that was like, and and so I think that you know there was probably a lot going on that weekender what? Doing a lot of cocaine, just some of the finest cocaine the world. You know he i. don't think that's ever been. You know. He's never commented on that, but but yeah, I mean the references are all over the place in the movie. Without cooking them, people guy it's. Just wondering screenwriter Joe Eszterhas Z like okay. WHAT OTHER CRAZY SHIT! DOGGY! Chow Sheryl! Let's throw that in there to well. Yeah, it's like we're. We're yeah. Where where are you getting? Those references there. One. Is there one crazy dancer that they talk to you and oh? This is interesting like just keep writing this down. Write this down. It's like. What Jeffrey Mikhail! I wish you nothing but the success of your documentary film. You don't know me. That's available everywhere. You can stream purchase or rent a movie online right now. You yeah, but interesting enough the movie showgirls can't be found anywhere. It I think you get the Blu Ray I thought you Dr, encore or something. Yeah, it was on. Prime I think if you upgraded to stars at one point, but it comes and goes like at one point. It was on that Netflix wasn't but but yeah, that is just by it. Everyone should I just don't understand like. If you right now want to watch this movie, and people can message us. where? Legal language, but definitely by this movie if you can but there's no way right now. You have to buy a BLU ray TVD player in order to play the Blu Ray DVD version otherwise you're. You're having a pirate and a to me. It seems very strange that they the Hollywood was sort of make these films available and not available. Especially considering that's been such a cult classic, and even in two thousand and five. They you know. I think it was a twenty. Was the Twentieth Century Fox Mgm that released this film MGM GM say it backwards. which is the line in the movie? They actually released this with shot glasses and shark. Pin The tail. Pin The tail on the donkey. They were the pin. The Tassels on the stripper posters showgirl. Yeah, and then Decca Card shot glasses. There was a whole they had like scores kind of lap-dancing tutorial on one of the DVD Menus, and that was the the DVD that David Schwager reported. recorded his commentary for to That sort of inspired you and legend to also wanting to really influence you as as a filmmaker to making you don't know me. Yeah Gee. I mean he was the first one. I reached out to and I mean yeah. His his commentary track is just brilliant yeah. Well Geoffrey Mikhail. It's a pleasure chatting with you I feel like. We're friends. You think you can new. For that Hori. Now! That Hori. Elizabeth Berkley Gina Gershon like people come up to there and the scream thrust it. I'm sure I'm sure they get all sorts of references and lines and. Thrown at them I mean Gina said you know in one of her QNA's. The movie that everybody asks me about is showgirls. showgirls so. We got. We got so close to getting Giniger. Sean on the show, she released a country Western album music, and she wanted to come on the podcast to talk about it and we were like. Yes, it's okay. We ask her some questions about showgirls and they they were like yeah, and then and then it never it didn't. It fizzled unfortunately. But I feel like at this point. They're kind of like sick and tired of talking about it. I mean you'd have to be. Twenty five years later. Get over it. But we can so good. Yeah, you think you're going to do my nails for me now. DC's. Must be weird, not having them. Calm all over you like the. Different places different places. Jeffrey. Thank you so much for joining Jeffrey. This is so fun! Thanks guys. Take Care bye-bye. Jeffrey. McHale is from different places places. He lives in places, namely Los Angeles now, and you don't know me is available for rental or streaming online at all platforms learn more about the film through website fees to fund dot com, or you don't know me film, and it's no misspelled. No Me Am I know. You don't know me film. Dot Com our mind to this podcast without your support. If you're not a plus member, yet sign up today at least dot com slash, plus your contribution to this show is what makes this show happen? You can also access thousands of our podcast. Many of which that we talk about showgirls, then you can. Just. Check out the tag on. showgirls and something pop up. Yeah, actually you gotTA. Dot Com slash plus become a number, and you can archive thousands of legendary shows with actors and Peace Christ talking about the movie showgirls like modern. My favorite ones was all I really need to know. I learned from watching showgirls. We had even a blog entry were mark talks about if showgirls were trek? What the characters would play which role I have totally route. I wrote that if I was pointed out to me I read it. The incident said Oh. That makes sense. It could use a little updating, but. Still. It's fun, so nomi Malone would be Orion slave girl. Christopher Collins would play a Klingon Zach Kerry would be a human one interview I. Really enjoyed talking to was a Elvira mistress of the Dark Peters Shoe was Las Vegas showgirls and we asked her about like. Is that movie for Real? Is that how it goes? And she's you know. Her response was basically. No, there's nothing like Las Vegas that. She knew well and part of it is now. SHOWGIRLS is exaggeration. It's a cartoon of this this decadent world, but But we've been to Las Vegas and what I thought was really unusual, strange in two, thousand, six, two, thousand, seven was, and that was a decade after the film had come out. It seemed like nobody in Las. Vegas was familiar with the film. Do you remember like that experience? I talk about it with people? A lot of people didn't see because it was so pant. You know, and then it was just like I. Mean a straight guy's not gonNA. WanNa Watch that film, right? It's not gonNA appeal to them. A GAY IS GONNA. WanNa Watch film, because it is all about eve and G. String, but when like I'm from Puerto Rico in San. Juan. Puerto Rico, when people talk about San Juan Puerto Rico in the movie like I'm familiar with almost every pop culture reference to Puerto Rico from west side story to the flying nun, which supposed to take place in Puerto Rico. I'm always like Oh my God Puerto Rico's in a movie or a TV show. And even when the love boats Dachshund Puerto Rico, you're like that's Puerto Vallarta. That's not Puerto, Rico. So part of me is like. Wondering know why people in Las Vegas have this kind of love, hate, relationship, or almost it's like the the black sheep of their family. There's some they they don't talk about. And you know the expression what happens in Vegas stays in. Vegas was inspired by this film. It sure was, wasn't it? We're GONNA. Leave you here with Rena riffles singing song perfectly in `perfect inspired by her role as penny. Hope in the film showgirls enjoyed. Listening everybody. trip. Kuehne not shown. A. Lane! A. In the. Pure? Food. Dreams came true. You.

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OMUG Nerd Death Match

Covert Nerd Podcast

54:08 min | 10 months ago

OMUG Nerd Death Match

"This podcast is part of the podcast arcade network. Hello and welcome to the covert Nerd podcast. Thanks for listening. It means a lot to me that you take the time out of your day to hear what I have to say. Today is another episode from the Star Fighters Entertainment Group. Twenty four hour live event that we did several weeks back. You can go on facebook to star Fighters Entertainment Group to find all the other events that went on this. One is a death match that we did with the guys from Omagh and the art of Bach you can go to covert ner dot net for more episodes and more details on how you can get in touch with me and you can also visit our sponsors at Rainbow Comics in cards DOT COM. You can also find them on facebook as well without further ado. Let's dive right in and nerd it up with a death match with the OMA guys this dirt death match and there might be a murderer to we will be guys. GotTa know how it works. We'll just go back and forth and present our character present our case then we let the battle begin and present why we think our character should win. So I'll go ahead and we'll start. I'll go ahead and start with ours if that's fine or you guys go. It doesn't matter to me but hey it's your show. Okay all right. Thanks by the way guys appreciate it. Thank you all right too many times about doing this. We never actually gotten around the donut. So I know we have to wait 'til virus shows and then all right well we've got the first matchup is going to be our side for me and Lee Bach. Ma is going to be Lincoln Hawk from the movie over the top from nine hundred. Eighty seven all rewatch this. Yeah you gotta get your. Yeah there I was just GonNa ask you to do that Ben. Your secret weapon. Lincoln Hawk is played by Silvester Stallone. Zoologist read the Synopsis For those. That may not know what the movie is. He's a struggling trucker who arm wrestles on the side to make extra cash while trying to rebuild his life after the death his wife. He tries to make amends with his son who he left ten years earlier upon their first meeting his son does not think too highly of him until he enters the world arm wrestling championship in Las Vegas. His hope is to receive the Grand Prize of one hundred thousand dollars but more importantly the expensive custom semi truck. That has the Big Hawk logo on the side. So what what are the odds? You win track. That has the logo on the side that matches your last name weird it. It didn't happen on purpose. Did it just incidence? This to Clinton's maybe guys knew this already. There's an over the top arm wrestling tournament. That's what the is based on. Is the over the top arm wrestling tournament? That's in actually exists. Yeah it's so. This tournament was first. Yeah Nine Hundred. Six is when it started. Now here's the character that's based on the real life guys named John Burs Zinc. He's a real life arm wrestler. Who won so. There's a truckers class in the over the top arm wrestling division you can enter the truckers division of the over the top arm wrestling division. That's who this guy is based on and the the guys arm. They showed a picture of it. It sixteen inches around on his forearm in his fourteen. So he's that's who is based WHO Based upon from the arm wrestling. Well we're going blue. He's wrestling something a lot of time. And then sleeper cab. You have a lot of alone time. I right write a lonely job and the actual tournament. You do win a semi truck so he drove it around during the time. The movie was going on to help promote it. And then he sold it and bought a corvette. Of course. That's it. Yeah he could bully four corvettes listening expensive. I well. Maybe they've changed since one thousand nine hundred eighty six. I don't know war. Sporting events need need trucker class. If you ask me good point I would love to see like the. Nfl Super Bowl truckdriver class truck drivers playing football for Sunday. That'd be awesome being a Higher synchronized swimming trucker class. I've watched oh gymnastics. I don't WanNa see a trucker and Eleo do you or one of those guys on the rings. Well the truck at the beginning the older truck that he has appeared in the wizard movie as well and then get this they wanted to cast originally they wanted to cast Don Johnson as Lincoln Hawk instead of stuff esther stallone was he too busy doing the Harley Davidson the Marlboro man or Miami Vice a little bit around the time but in Don Johnson as Lincoln Hawk I would. It'd be horrible. Yeah that doesn't mean it wasn't good with stallone. Well you know between not good and horrible. You guys all watch this show when you were like eight ten twelve years old when. Yeah Right Yup. After seeing this movie tell me you had to like go with your friends and instantly. Try that over the top to see if it gave you had to try it like right away. He liked us. Nothing completely. I guess this time. Stallone was a lot had a lot more star power the Don Johnson. So they went ahead and went with stallone on that one. Probably a good move in the move off your member. I watched it again recently in the movie at the end when they're doing the tournament the announcer keeps saying over and over and over again. That this is a double elimination tournament. Well I I read that the Bull Hurley. So that the guy he faced at the end was undefeated when he faced Lincoln Hawk in the final match. Since it was a double elimination tournament Hawk would have had to beat Hurley twice. Not Once I was like Oh okay I was like now that was the big bowl guy. Yeah Bowl hurling event. That was not the guy that that drake the motor. No that was not the guy that drank the motor oil which grizzly something rather grizzly. Yeah I back and watch the movie which I did. Unfortunately the preference death match matches before he drinks the valvoline. He eats like a burning cigar like spitballs. So yeah he he was a two or three trick pony as far as putting in proper mouth. Yeah you're doing it wrong man. All right let's see if this will work here our bandwidth hold up but if the guy's doing those things house even getting like past the age of twenty exactly well in this isn't exactly it's out of his mouth good for for sports performance. Right there. Lavalle dribbles out of his mouth. He doesn't actually drink it. It's it's all psychological. Whatever isn't isn't that? What before you get into fight or your head out in the field for football I Luga for certain things Funny Story. I worked with a guy. This is probably fifteen years ago. He said he him and some college guys so here. You're already in trouble when you see here that they're at a party and somebody paid him paid. Not The guy was working with but somebody else at the party. Twenty dollars to drink a quart of oil and he did it. Needless to say about thirty minutes later they were heading to the emergency room for twenty bucks. Goose Co pay. Well nineties. Maybe I don't know but probably not maybe had good insurance so ready for me to lay down some smack as to why Lincoln Hawks going to Beecher your character. I I'm ready to put it down. Let's yeah let's go ahead here. Wait well we have to talk about the after I i. Let's let's do. Let's do this your character. I Yep Yep Oh okay. So tell us where he got. We Got Jack Burton hero from big trouble in little China. His truck is called the Pork Chop Express and he is a successful trucker and as we see in the movie he finds himself in Chinatown biting demands and bigfoot and in Japan low pain. That's right all kinds of fun stuff. And he's got the you know we see him with his fun network of friends he gets into a wacky adventure so and the rest of it. I'm GONNA the overview of who were talking about but I'm GonNa save some other bits for a later the good bits. How many times have you seen big trouble in Little China? Oh my gosh. I didn't even know I watched it. First Time I saw it. You know what I came out on video When I was like twelve or whatever ten something like that. Yeah you know. Local local video store in I think it was like a sleepover. And he goes one of those like you know. Spend somebody's house and that was the movie that we ran into the night and was great because it was just a live action cartoon Kurt Russell running around doing John Wayne Impression. Yes Oh yeah. In the comedic hijinks ensue. I love those those when we were kids day. Go a bunch of movies and stay up 'til two in the morning and eat lots of bad food. How how about you being? When did you see this? You Know I. I can't remember the first time I saw but I remember when I was a younger person which I'm not exactly now but as a kid me and my brother and my dad we literally. We'd go to blockbuster. Whatever movie store and we would just walk down the aisles and we would pick a movie just like based on the cover a rally disco. That looks like fun. Let's see what this is all about and big trouble? Little China was one of them some Were like Oh you know. Russell escaped near read. This like what can go wrong and it turned out to be a fantastic movie That probably like a ten year old should see but I so it is what it is. How many hits and misses plate using that method? Been with. Let's watch US based on the cover. So the miscall on is probably way way column. You come back right away. Just go get another one or did you like US great. I'll have to wait till tomorrow. It depends on how bad it was. I mean there is a few that. Yeah we're like. Hey let's go find something else and we'd like to go rent something that we'd seen before but every now and then there's like. Oh that was good so let's not finish watching it and it's due back Thursday so your we'll wait till Thursday. Yeah exactly cool Lee. You want to Regale us with that. How we'RE GONNA win this one shirt. We before we do that. I won't let you guys know for whatever reason Benz audio like goes in and out for me so I'm getting like half a conversation so if you say anything about me I don't know it okay. Perfect this death match. It's it's it's hard for me because Jack Burton is like my one of my spirit animals and facts. Hold on if I could move my camera around here. Mike literally like Worcester on the wall. Yeah and here. You are rooting for Lincoln. Hawk halfheartedly at best. This this could hurt a little bit. I think plus the advantage Lincoln Hawk in that movie he was. He was a quiet professional. He didn't he walked softly and carrying a big stick and he wasn't all about the talk in the jazz. Were Jack Burton. You Go back and watch that movie. He is all mouth pretty pretty much the whole time like everything that he gets out of other than catching the knife throwing it back in a loaf pan. It's someone else helped him out like one of his buddies or that wizard guy or Kim control but he just continues to screw up entire movie and just get bailed out by his buddies dumb luck or Lincoln hockey just handles business and when he turns his head on backwards. It's like a switch and you can't stop and that's what he said. I'd stick a switch and can't be stopped. Plus he beats a guy that can drink motor oil. I don't I don't know what else that can say. Yeah and he has a has a training montage. I mean come on. It's just alone. Movie Has the weight. He's working out. All the time has trump's rock. Yep then he's he's doing pull ups on the front of the truck he doesn't need a. Jim roope Jim He. It's all right there in his truck. Couple QUICK. Little love his son. And that's you know that's like monster energy right there. That's why he wins exactly. Yeah and at the beginning so he wears a clip on tie. That's probably for safety reasons. He does any brushes his teeth in his suspenders. He's confident he's confident man. So before I'll gets into the nitty gritty. I'm just GONNA but a couple of lease points there. Yeah so he beats a guy who drinks motor oil however leaser Speaker pointed out that he knows somebody that drank motor oil and twenty minutes later was in the Er so that guy was already weakened early which allowed him to win. The valvoline did more damage than Than Lincoln Hawks Huge Forum there secondly you guys talked about him doing the pull ups in the PUSHUPS. He's got his home gym right there on his truck. I don't know if you noticed deck doesn't need it a gym. He's already their man. Yeah he's already prime performance. He doesn't need a switch a witch if there is always on right so to add onto that fun facts here so the movie or the truck. That Lincoln Hawk is driving the truck. 'cause come on it's a where's it. My nose is a nineteen sixty seven What is it Autocar as four? That's the make and model of that truck in the year. That movie came out. What Eighty six seven seven seven. That's a twenty year old truck in. It has no sleeper cab okay. He's driving around with his kid in a truck with no sleeper cab. That's twenty years old and he is only way his only hope to get a halfway. Decent truck is the arm wrestle. You know what that tells me tells me. He's a bad trucker dudes bad at his job. He is not good hand. Was that you know what that tells me that that the guy knows how to maintain a truck. It's twenty years old so that guy's hardcore melamine. It's a diesel. Those things get two million miles before they need oil change. That's not a good excuse. Also maybe if he weren't spending all of his time doing latte polls on the grill and actually drive in the thing he goes for to better truck so as kid isn't sleeping in the passenger seat of a twenty year old O. S. Jack Burden on the other hand sleeper caps. Sleep is a crutch for the weak. Our he's just raising his boy right. He's made over sleeper cab as burned all his money on horse steroids and hotel rooms and truckers Jack Burden on the other hand. He's driving a nineteen eighty five freightliner. This movie came out in eighty six which means his truck was one year old. All right now. The also noted that the physique burden isn't as ripped in Swale as a slow. You'll why 'cause instead of squatting on his truck he's actually driving this truck so much so that he can afford a brand new truck. It doesn't need to arm wrestle to get yourself a new truck. He just drops the coin instead of Dropping Hammer K. Blow much much better trucker in the world in his first trucking goes JACK BURDEN HANDS DOWN BETTER TRUCKER. But in a way he was kind of a he was kind of a truck driving podcast because he was always on his B. Just talking out into the ether. Yeah that's what they did. That pork chop express me the thing. It's gotTa Keep Moving. That's that's his only socialization because he's not hitting the gyms at every stop he's not in. Vegas. Yeah I'm just bringing up as he was an older before it was cool weakness for Jack. Burden thank you. He has strong strong mouth but not so strong in the know does have though and you even pointed. He's got the reflexes as we see early in the film when his little buddy flings the bottle towards he catches it because it's all in the reflexes. He doesn't need you know the yoked upper body he's got the agility of a cat. Yeah and you did win. He's the one who through that? He caught the knife and then through the night. Now consider this. Maybe his friends were the ones doing all the work through the movie writing but had they not been there he could have been seen as fully capable but he didn't have to step up because he had them. Now there's the one scene where he's got the machine gun and Yadda sites get cocky and shoot in the air and knock the bricks onto himself and he's like literally passed out for like eighty percent of the fight. He's done he's done right there so right because if he had been conscious up fighting you wouldn't need You know wing Chang and whoever in Gen Wing Chun? What's his name Wang in his last name everybody weighing on tonight? Yeah so I mean. He's he's just trying to let his friends and you know the Ninja clan. Show how they have fighting prowess so he's you know he's actually and helper when it comes to if we talk that move up to just you know lapse one poor moment of judgment lapse in judgment. That's one whereas Lincoln Hawk Lincoln hawks entire life is a lapse in judgment. Twenty is okay with no sleeper cab. Said he's driving rental because he can't afford a new day of trump. Well if it's if it's I would say concede if it's trucking ability money-making ability. Maybe but on. The other hand in law was a millionaire. So maybe he didn't need to work. I guess I don't know Jack Burden's father alertly Hawk hawks father-in-law they divorced. Now they're married. Oh he just took off. He probably just didn't give him his father-in-law probably didn't hook him up. This appointed like he saw how he handled this money with. The trucking company was like you got money. He's just GONNA burn him on steroids and way right. Well if it's if it's I'll concede if it's the ability to run a trucking company maybe I would I would concede but if we're looking at a fight between the two then. I think Hawk definitely has the advantage if the two of them were actually get into fisticuffs. Yeah Yeah I'll give you that with Burton's GonNa Burton's get mopped up running chuck trucking company. Okay maybe Burton wins but we never hear about where. Burton truck does He. I don't think every really says does he just has the impression that it's his personal truck. I don't think he's working for somebody else. Yeah I think he he. He's an owner operator. One of the things I like about that movie. I don't think either of the protagonists had sleeves on at any point in either of those movies and they were very well greased up a lot of that time. Jerry had JAB. Yeah yeah at the beginning. Yeah but once once it got hot you know. Get the guns out. When he infiltrates the the brothel I think he puts on. Suny pretends to be like tod. Sweeney or some crazy name. I guess right net no no sleeve enthusiasts and skunk showtime especially on on over the top. Those guys are just insane. I mean if you if you average working your arms you're not hiding those hogs exactly right exactly all right. Let's move on. Let's go to the next one. Which is I categorize it the repugnant. Rumble this one okay. And we'll let the Obama guys go first with their their contestant. Is this a use gone? Mom Ben. That's all you buddy. Hold on there. That's not fair. Put you on the spot just because ours never seen for thunder cats all of a sudden. I'm the experts I I've seen it. I just didn't watch it enough to know anything about. It can talk all day with mom real. I got nothing nothing. We got a costume change. She's got a costume. Change live on air. I'd be I had to become mum raw. The are living. Is this your turning? The hat moment leaking honk on it. That's right so all right so I'm raw is The main bad guy as the English professor about it From thunder cats He's a mummified demon priest who is immortal. Hence the name Morowski the ever living. He's got all sorts of black magic and evil sorcery at his fingertips that is only increased when he transforms into memory the ever living So he also has A. This is my favorite fact about Memora- he's got a demonic bulldog for his sidekick who's called Ma Mutt. They're clever so he's got like I said. He appears as a decayed mummified evil. Priests wearing a red cloak and glowing. Red is very disheveled looking Not Very Threatening but then he speaks his incantation of ancient spirits of evil transformed this decayed form to mum raw the ever living and he becomes Ra the ever living and like I said that does gets him even more power. He transforms up to nine feet. Tall buildings very ripped physique wise and lays waste to third earth or attempts to. He's also got a secondary form he can go to the all powerful ever living in all-powerful kind of stacking the deck against gays. Here just throwing that out there. I would list off all of his different magic in abilities that he has but there is a on and it would probably put us overtime. No He's got he's got a lot okay. Did you watch this? Did you watch it when it first came out? Been or was this later. Oh No I. I became a fan later. It just I I always tell myself and tell people that. I'm like a like a reverse hipster instead of saying I was into stuff before it was cool. I just get into stuff after it was cool or if the like the antithesis everyone likes seaman and stuff like that. So I'm like I like thunder cats because it's different. So did you find it by any figures? I think Yeah I had. I had a lie. No for a while and a Panther Guy Pamuk. Those are pretty rare. I heard because they didn't really sell a lot of them so they weren't really out in the market very long so they might be worse them. Well whatever whatever person pulled him out of the dumpster because I don't have them anymore you don't have them craft. Oh God no he's like I said It's got the the magician aspect he can shape shift into different people and forms up to and including copying lie no He's also got his own Power Sword. Which is the sort of plunder which sounds like it should be a he man Really Okay right so there you go. If if he can take other forms then he could make himself look like human which would then descend skeletal. Running away all right so moving on to our next match all right. So we've got skeletal or on our side so this is a member of versus skeleton for before you go leon skeletal. I just WanNa let you guys know that I cannot pick up anything that Benji said so. I missed all of that but I was trying to read your lips. I don't know what it is. I can hear everyone else's audio's except Benz but I was trying very hard to read your lips. The only things that really picked up was something about mom rubbing a week. Old Tired Villain. That couldn't even beat a group of pussycats or something. I don't know I'm terrible lip reading anyway a skelter. That's exactly what he said what. I thought that was good. That was good. I like that all right well. Skeleton was the main antagonist for the MOTOO comic book cartoons all of that. He's always trying to beat out he man and get into Castle Grace Golf course and it was his abilities. So he's an extremely powerful sorcerer with control over a vast so we underlined range of dark magical powers such as teleporting over vast distances sending telepathic commands to his minions grow. Plants hypnotism illusions. He can reflect magic project. Freeze rays open gateways between dimensions. He also has scientific skill as well and then in both film nation and the New Adventures. They also show him as a highly. Skilled swordsman willing to swords. So He's got his havoc staff. Of course that's his iconic conic power having the havoc staff that does everything it seems like it destroys he man and makes his coffee in the morning. I don't know it just seems to do everything and of course he's got all of his minions surrounding him as well he also has been his origins or a little or vary from several different integrations but he was king doors. Brother I think in the new iteration but he also worked with Hornak as well and got some of his magical knowledge from him and of course he has voice with Alan so that alone I think members done I mean you have Alan Oppenheimer on your side. Come on the phone and of course we have the live action movie. Well it was good but still excellent actor. I forgot who played him. Who has who played Skeletons or their jailer. You're so he's got all Alan Oppenheimer and Frank Majella on on his side. I mean I don't know and he doesn't. I guess I'll wait. I'll wait. We got some good stuff but that that's what we've got for skeleton on our side. Plus his toys are just amazing. I was just scrolling through all the different skeletal toys. I mean come on Scott Dragon. What's the one with the Dragon on his shoulder? And he's got the laws like that one teric tower and come on that skeleton in a nutshell for my contribution to the fight. This fights already been kind of predetermined guys. I hate to tell you this I went straight to the source. We've got motoo versus thunder cats right here. Yup I'm just I'm just looking at this move market. Never put away the thunder cats right. They're always bested him. Your were taken on the thunder cats areas. GonNa put SNARF DOWN IN ONE. Little blast were then in this panel punches. Tara and Tiger Guy Whatever his name was and then he put throwing the hurt locker and so- Lionel decides to like. Hey I should step up and protect my boys girls and skeletal Puts HIM DOWN TO LIKE PA-. Damn you only need one I- nice. Yeah so in a series of like five panels. He did what Munger can never do. So so I guess I guess if he was you know fighting the thunder cats. You got an argument but in death matches fighting Mumma but but couldn't defeat the thunder cats and skeletal did so listen if they're going to tech but technically memorize never defeated either because he is the ever living but is immortal. Doesn't member yeah but to do that doesn't have to sleep. Yes to some sort of rejuvenation chamber. Here's the thing is he's got he's got his when he gets to. We have to go back to a sarcophagus yes. So here's one of the is one of the advantages. That has all right. Let's say let's say we got knocked. The gun were they're gonNA fight right now. Momma'd Shell out as this frail little main number skelter over there in his corner. Getting cocky guy this really one of these bring snarf out. This is a joke. And then you know you know what happens when over cocky and you underestimate your own mama transforms like I said before if he destroys forms in the shape shifts into human is gonNA stay in the rain. Well and also to those skeletal. He's got that ripped ripped APPs and and everything else knows. He has to transform. It's just it's just there. Yeah but again. You lose all the psychological advantage like. Oh look at my rams head on a stick. That's my re SNARF that's awesome. Yeah because that's that's brag about. Yeah that's hard that means no. The cuteness factor does not sway him one bit. He's talking about how could take up work. Oh okay that's right okay. So you're thinking but what other abilities I mean. He can like you said. He can teleport telepathic. Hypnotism could hypnotize Mumma. He just own skeletons. Brain abilities of Memora- powers astral projection blast power cosmic awareness dimensional manipulation divine powers duplication earth manipulation electric disruption energy based construct fire control flight force fields. Killing Heat generation hypnosis. Ice Control illusion casting. I can keep going there. I mean it literally goes all the way to the WS. I stopped at I. Somebody wants to see ORCA versus SNARF. I would watch that or COHAN's hands down. I would not yeah blinders. Weiner goes onto unique from dungeons and dragons just once in a painful painful death. Yeah I don't WanNa see him at. That'd be terrible just so I'll say I. I'll say that the skeleton is probably a better physical fighter with weapons and fisticuffs but overall with magic. I mean come on. Mama's got all those things that benches listed and then some as long as he's not in office so he is is a little bit limited on time of day or time of the year. I don't know how many how much says this after the sleep in this office. It's just once he gets weakened which they have no timeframe of what that is and he has no time frame of when he has to stay in it. Okay so it's not like once a year every ten years or now he's watching from the sarcophagus in the cartoon and in the you know the stories you know when the thunder cats beat him he retreats back to Hatch Hatches. Next plan much like skeletal retreats back to Snake Mountain okay. All right like I said I can't. I can't hear Ben so I'm just reading lips. I read something about number. Needs naps all the time. Or I don't know but he's back to going back to the Bible on the on the head to head here. Skeletal does like which way do we need to go here? This way L. Outlets Mumba and with the help of a secret magical potion like turns him into his little ethereal servant and skeleton. Hasn't doing whatever he wants to do. Comic this Oh it's it's DC comics that to Ronin. I heard I heard they're going under anyway so that doesn't matter fake news. Notice that like whose whose name goes on top of the title here. Yeah I think I think I made not scattered not tours the name on top. It said he may not skeleton. So draw. I. It's looking looking kind of weak for mom right now. Of course you say that We need somebody from the outside like. Hey we're building a need. We need let the fans decide on this one. What do you? What do you want? We need based on arguments. Who Wins mummers shelter. Mumber the immortal and all powerful God or the Bowie face. Well I mean underneath. I don't know nothing about these guys. So of the rap is a skeleton so we got skeleton versus skeleton right. Yeah well into a giant behemoth mom as ancient spirits of evil transform this decayed form to memorize the ever living. And he grows to be over nine feet and ripped that means he's got the reach scale five eight. He doesn't need it. He has his havoc staff. Eddie Eddie Nope I got nothing. Eddie says that member needs to take nap. Guys come on a really. That's all you're going to focus on okay but I like mummies better than skeletons. Does that count? Yes because mom is yeah. I think skeleton heavy soared through him before he got done saying his little. Let's not that's not unfair. You guys have clearly not seen a cartoon. Quick he's aster it does honestly from from some of the things that you've been saying like trying to think that might be skeletal or da Rig. It's one in his tongue. Jack Burton Beats Lincoln Hawk. Yeah so I think we're maybe one there and you got the tiebreaker coming out coming up all right. Well let's let's move on to the tiebreaker. Then Joe Joe. Oh another wardrobe change. I'll write a love it. He'll be late thirty shirts places out. He came through for a nerd. Strip that we're doing strip hordes of power so it's If it's Tieman if it's motoo would it be stripped? Polka wore cats okra. Yes she runs around with a with a metal pole. That's your weapon right. So we've got the last. The Tiebreaker here the backstabbing beatdown which is scream versus detro- from Gigo. So is went went. I I'll go first. So we got star screen. Of course you hang on. Hang on. Hang on a second. So the point of this one isn't necessarily who's going to wait in head to head combat because now now obviously the giant you know which one is a bigger backstabber. Yes dinner later yes. Who's going to move the 'cause along by any means necessary right? Yes right good luck. So we've got course star screamed from transformers to was in the nineteen eighty-four cartoon and he was voiced by Christopher Collins. As we know who played burns on the simpsons but played the void. The Voice of Cobra Commander in Gi Joe Awesome Voice. I mean that voice. Everybody knows that voice sure everybody young conscripts ain't with that because it does so starts cream of course said matrons lieutenant second in command because that's kind of what we're doing here the second in commands and helped mega on Cyber Tron. Of course he also attended the Cyber Tron were academy which so. He's got some training. Evidently I didn't know that he did. Some is credited. I those are all credited. That's a degree. Evidently on Cyprus run probably run. That's maybe he got it on line one. When those online diplomas continued you worked with sky. Fire remember that episode on the on the cartoon that he was friends with sky fire. Who was one of Cyber Trans main main scientists? He is the one that came up with in. Nineteen eighty-five that combated cons. Real good friend with a train as we know that was my nickname in boy scouts astro train Of course we know in the movie when they killed him off thought that was interesting plot point when they killed him off in the movie. They didn't bring him back until two thousand five so they left him dead for almost twenty years. Which doesn't yeah. Yeah but the weird I was just thinking of some characters when they typically kill him off and marvel or DC or any of them seems like. It's Oh three issues later. We're just going to bring them back and they don't keep them is if they killed him off and then replaced with like. Rodham is scream or something a move ever actually exactly so star scream was One of his quotes. I thought was kind of interesting to find it here. Okay Yeah I'll rule the universe even if I'm the only one left in the universe which this segue into one of the reasons why he's GonNa Win. So there was an episode in season. Two of the g one transformers where he was on. Cyber Tron and they had these this room with their the the spark of each of several not auto bots several transformers. It's kind of their souls. They'd have a body. It's just their energy well. He destroyed the entire building and killed. Basically killed thousands of of transformers without even blinking. An eye so this guy like it really helped out megatrend. Is this guy. This guy is dedicated to the cause because these transformers guests were enemies of the deceptive cons and he didn't want them to get out and so he said you know what. We're just getting rid of them. So I as a backstabbing guy that is not afraid to kill the entire universe to get what he wants so he has dedicated. He is an opportunist. And that's one of the reasons. Why Mega Tron keeps him around. I think is because he is willing and so dedicated to the cause yes he might try to back to the murder murder. He is dedicated to the caused. So much that. That's why matron keeps him around all right. That's a that's an interesting interesting or even. Let me give the backstory Allen. Then you could give the point just all right. We'll do though if we're gonNA talk voiceovers voice actors Muscle Flex Maurice Lamarche worries. Lamarche was the voice of this show in the second iteration of Gi. Joe Cartoon He was also the brain among many other things. So I think that's a mic. Drop on. You know that you had been so desks. Stroh yeah de stroke was born in Scotland His full name is James. Maccallum detro- The twenty fourth as a heritage. Right there some legacy. He is the laird of Castle. Destroy in the Scottish highlands said in cottage highlands. Scream have a title. Yeah and a castle has a degree. From the tech of Cybertrust detro- The district clan has weapons For centuries destroy is the faceless power behind the current incarnation Which he has titled Mars the Military Armament Research Syndicate as an at graduate. I take a deep deep offense to that garrison credit the the so the dextrose have been making and selling weapons for centuries in fact They the reason why destroy wears the mask is it. It's a sign of a tradition to sign of power and standing within the clan Willie back when I'm not going to give date. Because way back. When the district clan was caught selling arms to both sides of some factions that were in a war and neither side wanted to get rid of them because they're doing so good Getting armaments that they forced This one ancestor to put on the metal mask and so now destroy wears it in honor of that see. That's huge of backstabbing and undermining right. He obviously he will battle Cobra commander himself up to and including selling armaments to The JOE's Because that's just who he is. He's super rich because of his heritage because of the Mars Syndicate there. His only one weakness is that he is in love with Barron. So every now and then that kind of gets in the way. I'll take it away. So he also had a direct hand in creating cer- PINTER WHO USURP The power from Cobra Commander? He worked with Dr Mind Better. But to mind bender and the Tam Oxen's Egmont in creating the guy who took over in crushed Gobert commander starts to actually I. Didn't they prove that in the GI? Joe Movie that was. They planted the little ear bug or something and in his ear that him. The idea for serpentine. It doesn't matter he's still he's still follow through with it but he may have replaced covered commander but he didn't put himself in charge. You just created a better leader that he can't use syrup. That was a dumb move. No desk doesn't want to be in charge. Extra wants to play both sides. It's not gonNA benefit him financially. If he's in charge he wants to stay behind the writings so he can sell his guns to both Gi Joe and Cobra and whoever else wants the guns. That's how you know so he's always going to undermine whoever's in charge them that's the better position to be in unlike say the fact that he backstabs both sides he's backstabbing at twice the volume of starch. He's a career backstabber. That's his job that's lineage. Serpent Hitler. Dna. They just went too. Far Just went too far. If you're going to have somebody take over your evil master astor. That's why I was wrong. Master did they steal his little tiny mustache. What what the ad hoc in about. Probably some off of either Lebron's corpse or something that you degree right now. I'll be back in a bunker for a while. There's going to be dealing with us. I don't know I have to stick with legitimately star screamed killed more characters than Dextra. Every did because of the way he's going around killing people which benefited matron destroyed. Industrial wasn't out benefit Cobra. Commander was out the benefit himself. Which makes him the ultimate backstabbing little. I missed all Benza diatribe. Because I can't I can't hear him for whatever reason but did anyone bring up. The the baroness yet. Yes he did. Yes if there's a weakness in the motivation. Yeah because she's she's always his super weakness whenever a cover commanders or wanted to heal stroz just easily to go after. The baroness sell scarf. Star screen doesn't have that weakness I mean but baroness was many years. Roaches put his tail between his legs every time star. Scream has the weakness of incompetence if he's hearing has an meanness of as hers it up but I mean honestly destroying any fights. I mean he's concerned GonNa have to fight detro- essentially when all the fights because he provided the weapons to everybody so he wins every fight so star screen Ride Star screen died in the movie. And then you said he didn't come back until until five win the DETRO- die right. He hasn't that's weird. I don't think that's coincidental all before. He died though. You gotta remember. That was about two three million years after they left Cyber Tron. So and I do want to say in these. Robots Comic Book can quit bringing up the cartoons when Cobra. Commander makes his move in Gets RID OF US repent or comes back into power pretty Sri Berries desperate under a mountain and kills him with a cave-in along with major blood. Embarrassed if you other folks pretty sure to look it up. I think that's irrelevant. I don't think that matters at all as and certainly brought up though he was a marvel comic book so the next issue he was probably back. Debbie well I don't know I think star scream is a venomous snake. And if you let your guard down. He's going to. He's going to snap at U. W. is a born and bred party groomed backstabber. The Yeah do the twenty four. Th All this yeah. He's the twenty fourth version of himself. Deborah Wins Wins. It's five hundred years of backstabbing. It's in his. Dna STARTS DNA. He couldn't have he detro- couldn't stop backstabbing. If he wanted to write any. Where are you at? He's he's probably you distance ITT certificate. He's not happy about no ripped it in half hour. That's how I any Eddie may wins by call. Yeah as long as it's not your personal business Yeah now now because the transformer movie is your favorite movie Is it? I'M GONNA have to go top ten top ten kh given the argument posed by both sides putting my bias aside which is hard because I'm all heart heart with a beard beard with a heart. I'm going to have to go detro- I'm going to have to go destroy He he betrayed Joes and Cobra Star. Scream was just. He had the blinders on. That's it you know. He could only fight back at tried any But but but but my heart says star screen because God he was a be. No good be yes. He was angry. That me way in still person shooter. Aren't we win that match and we went two out of three MEATLOAF's virtual ain't bad? You may have got us this time. But we'll have to do it again and do another matchup guys and let's let this person wants all this crap is over. We might let you win you mind. Let us win. Oh boy I I know. We'll I one character behind our back. Sportsmanship Lee covert nerd. I know that this is your show. But y'all lost I this style. Oh the door to 'cause we got to set up see you also lost but you brought some good arguments. I will say one of my favorite things was the not hearing Ben and making up really good smack talking. I think of extra point for that but you lose one hundred percents if you could actually not hear me or not. I don't know I think he's a good actor with your exactly with the but you guys are the winners of dirt dirt nerd death neck. It was so much fun with the guys. I appreciate you listening and I hope you enjoyed it as well. You can find me again. Covert ner dot net for this episode. And all the other episodes in until next time nerd it up.

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It's Cold All Over America but the College Basketball Action Is Heating Up | One Shining Podcast (Ep. 88)

One Shining Podcast with Titus and Tate

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It's Cold All Over America but the College Basketball Action Is Heating Up | One Shining Podcast (Ep. 88)

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We have the story of the woman in Texas who writing on a shopping cart or motorized card or whatever was drinking wine out or Pringles can. And then this last week. I'm gonna read the headline to. Florida woman shot after trading sex act for Pringles chips in five dollars. So yet Pringles is coming on stronger Pringles is making a comeback. It's called headline hunting. Again. I'm really impressed with that. I will say this. I am currently in bed with the flu. And I'm only eating Jesus. So as far as my allegiance, you know, RAM. I'm with Jesus end you mentioned Charles Barkley mapping to watch. All these NFL press conferences, which my goodness. If they say three phases. One more time. I'm I'm honestly, it may just be the end for me as it just it'll be over. But Bill Belichick brought up Charles Berkeley, one of the captains of either team cheese at our team bring all and he said he'd be a great tight end could have been a great tight end. But he wasted. He wasted his talents in basketball, and they just again goes to show you he is not on our team or any team. Probably not team cheese. It probably not team Pringle. He's producer cows team. But my goodness wasted a town on basketball. That's that's a shot. That's a shot at our game shot at our. How how insulting is it to the position of tight end that that is the default that anybody can do it. Six four six four to six eight and you can catch a ball. You could be a tight in. What every Segel every single guy wants to step into football like, yeah, they always pick tied in. And I just knew that must be so insulting for the guys that have spent their whole lives playing tight end and trying to perfect their craft. And then everyone just like, yeah. If LeBron played football would be the greatest I'd ever you could step in right now. It'd be the greatest tight end and like Jimmy Graham, Antonio gates and all those other guys just yet. I don't play football. But I'll play it now in. I'll be great at it. It's crazy. Yeah. But because hazards, Rico Rico gathered. NFL civil. But then you watch rob gronkowski doing interview. And you're like, yeah, I think that they can pull it off. Maybe this is a critical one shining pod GM street crossover and have Lombardi on breakdown all the guys in college basketball who would make the best NFL tight ends Sunday. The guys who are going to flame out MBA in their pursuit of professional basketball in. They're gonna end up on in a ferocious titans. I don't know something about in in the list every player. Yeah. Yeah. Between the heights of six four six eight. We haven't sewn to get to I wanna talk to I want to bullshit a little bit at the top of the show 'cause we all three of us. Kyle is joining us from the show, folks. He's back, but all three of us had very different experiences. The last few days, and I kinda wanna talk about it a little bit in. And I wanna I wanna do it. Right. Not not get like ten minutes in. And then realized we haven't really started the podcast. So let's just start the podcast eight, and then we'll we'll dive into everything we're going to talk a lot of college basketball than a lot of stuff is happening. We're going to do good guys. We're going to do bad guys. It's a packed episode. We'll get to all of it. But I would he Derm. All right. It is Wednesday. It is very cold in the mid west. I am coming to you from a frozen wasteland. And I would say that I'm jealous mutated, but I am not in because I just saw you. We were just in mini Minnesota. I I never know if I should say, Minneapolis or Minnesota. So I stay mini soda yet. Yeah. You need blanket. So we'll keep blinking statement. Yes. We love the frozen tundra known as Minnesota together generally day. Let's just say you are dead. And I think we've talked about it on every single podcast. We have the people are concerned about you. They keep asking me. I I went to the my little beer vent was last night. It was awesome. I'll I'll talk about that. At the end of the show if we're not running really long, thank everybody. But it was a good time. Whatever everyone's coming up to me. And they're saying is Tate alive is Tate. Okay. What's going on? I was like well, not only is his back still flocked. There's there's new developments. The man has called the flu. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure there's hypothermia from our time in Minnesota. Tape. Are you gonna make it through? Is this your last podcast? Well, I think if I keep saying that you know, what I mean it just eventually when it does happen. It'll be a nice setup you'd ambi- it'll be a precursor for the end. It's always better when you claim something at the top in the people, you know, it's like, no shirt domicile. Most people will let you have it. But I currently have the flu I went yesterday was confirmed to have the flu I am as you can imagine sources Jeff good sources squirm to have. Yeah. Just broke the story to the world. Jeff Goodman has a has to get a second second handle that reporting. But right from the source direction the source. Yes, I have the flu. And also I am sweating right now. Currently it is not because Grand Canyon university. Followed me on Instagram. It's not because of that is not because I popped anything is. Because again, I had the flu because we were in Minnesota and more Titus. I mean, you can confirm this. We were dressed in tuxedos being there was nothing under. We had no long Johns on. We had. No, I mean, I don't even have an undershirt on. We were dressed in tuxedos shootings shooting scenes for the three three x three. You brought to you by DOE Seki is national championship. I still messed it up. Even though I've said it a million times, but we were there out in the cold with bags in our hands walking around. And I just have to say I mean that is that is dedication to the brand beyond belief, and it has led to my back locking up forever. Again. I have the flu. This is my flu game podcast. And I don't know what tomorrow will hold but probably not good things based on the past five to six days of my life. Yeah. We we we wore the tuxedos we're outside. I should I should say I have lived in the mid west my entire life. I have been a Minnesota in January even we played basketball. We played a Minnesota. You know, I remember going up to Minneapolis barn. Yeah. Playing in the barn, and it was cool to shit, and you step aside like this, really cool, but will you and I experienced being in Minnesota on the eve of the fuller vortex. We started to get the vortex. It was four texting down. The I don't know what the verb before Texas. But it was it was more texting. It was coming at us. My God the it was laughable. It was like you just you step outside. We were. I started cackling. Like, I was I don't know. I don't I don't even really know how to describe it. It was it was it was the most insane thing I've ever experienced and to top it off all off as you said we were in tuxedos just walking around what a trip. So I I guess we should promote that we're doing the three on three thing. I think we already said that on the podcast, right? Like, we did it last. Year, and we're going to be back doing it. We were up in Minnesota shooting a bunch of promotional stuff, which basically turned into when Tait was dying. I went to the mall of America tuxedo wrote a roller coaster, and that was cool. So hopefully, people see that video later because God damn Tate. The the extent that we had to go to recess stuff was I don't know. I'm not gonna a lot of people might throw around the word hero. I'm certainly not gonna do that. But I don't know if someone else wants to call us heroes. I will I will gladly take that. So you couldn't legends. What you can call us, whatever you wanna call us. But I'll tell you this. I was cold. And if you've seen the shining, I understand why people go crazy. You know, what I mean, I could feel inside my body inside my loins, you know, I was losing it a little bit into to quote, a great Adidas executive who spoke to the FBI not too long ago. I can't believe there aren't more murders up there. I just. Because I mean, the cold weather is it is it a cold that I can never describe it as a cold that you can't you can't even put into words because your teeth are chattering too much to say anything. I mean that is what it is. And I love and we say this. We love Minnesota is a great time with the people. Everyone was so nice so kind we went to a timber wolves game. We saw the Utah Jazz in Quincy Neider and we saw the new Carl Malone in Stockton. Joe Ingles Ogden Mitchell, we saw that live all grades rose. We saw grace now in person we saw keta Bates Diop and person your boy with all that was good stuff. But again back to the cold my goodness, nothing. Nothing quite like, it to be honest. I don't really know what the answer is to get rid of the cold. But is the barn in ironic term because there's no way farm animals can live up there. Right. They can survive that. Yeah. It's going to be interesting. The final four is going to. I've been told that the final four is in April, actually, not January. So it should be warmer. But yeah, it'll definitely be interesting tape was not a fan. The thing you kept saying was what was your line like Minnesota's really cool, but it's also cold. And that's the problem. Yes. Yeah. A little cool. But it's too cold. Yeah. Well, that is you have you are sweating the it. Feels like a great time to bring back. The Sean Miller may with all yours. Sweating going on in live look at day. Frazier in his bedroom. Sweated through the flu. But let's talk about what really matters. And that is Carl going to the Sundance film festival and abandoning us for how many positive Miskel was it just one was it to maybe I only did one while I was there. So. Worked out give us give us your best story from Sundance. I almost feel bad because Tate, but I had a free in great time guys. Place was incredible. There was four bedrooms. Like, the time would like all glass, walls and shit. Like, you could see what was going on. They had like surround sound that you connect to your phone. So I was like I elected to stay home a lot. I didn't actually go to one one movie. But man, it was incredible to hot tubs on the roof Titus to overlooking. Like, it was it was just incredible. I spent so much time in the hot tub, but here here would when my story would be I would say that it was hanging out with John ham for a little while that was incredible. But it was I went to this party the night after the chase lounge, and I just I had too many. And I went home, and I was going to go to sleep, but I went into the hot tub, and I probably I don't know how long I stayed in there. But I jumped in there with my jewel and other pen the both works. So the Knight's still going great. I get downstairs is probably one thirty and bills brought some friends back in the first person. I see I'm soaking wet, by the way, first person. I see is Jamal. Hill, and I just started fucking crying laughing. I just pointed at Bill was laughing dried off, and I joined the party, but my God that was like the craziest like turn of events that could have happened up there. So. Kyle give me my old job back. Oh, my. We'll call you Mr. great top of Minnesota. I know I was thinking about it. The whole time guys. The idea like you, don't worry. Did it right? I'm happy for you. I'm glad that the jewel in the pin work, though. That's for sure. Real crisis really do realize that sounds fortuitous. I just I in my mind. That's exactly like I pictured you to sit in a hot tub next to Robert Redford riffing jewel drinking keystone light in your to set the most prestigious film festival in the country and dislike never leave the hot tub that was my day of what you had gone on. And I'm glad that might idea was pretty much reality. It was pretty close. It was pretty close Enda after point outside as you brought up who's going to be the next like Bill Murray, the guy that just kind of pops up everywhere, I will say I was at a Kyle in. It could be Kyle. But I when I was at SNL whenever I was in like September. Whatever Jon Hamm just happened to be there then too. And he just who interest just popping up everywhere. So maybe Jon Hamm is going after the Bill Murray thing where he just go to cool places in, you know, bop in see what's going on to move on Jon Hamm, incredible hang colleges, Jon Hamm introduced himself with both names. He he seems like a guy that like would you meet him? He's got dude. I tell me he reminds me of this guy went to high school with if he got famous later in life, really in this incredible, John he's like a, you know, I'm John type got great. Okay. At least he's not like James Cameron talking to the third person. You know, James Cameron does what James Cameron does not for James Cameron. But for others. All right, there was there was a shits on that happened. We the the show must go on a date. I know you're dying. I know that Kyle wants to go back to Utah. And we have college basketball is occupied. There's action we on the last show. Kyle the one that you minutes taken over basically complaining about how there's not enough. Content this season at how the FBI last year was awesome. We had trae young last year. Which was also there was this all sorts of stuff. It was the FBI was like it was never ending. It was sweet and Zayn Williamson committed we had that and that was fun because we had the FBI. And then you have do cleaning the top recruits Trey on. Anyway, we went on this thing, we're complaining when he more content. I feel like we got a good amount of content Tate. I feel like there's stuff that happen there. Some upsets there's absurd coaches Chirpin in the media. Let's do our best to sort through the only way we know how with the most convoluted segment in all jesting, the good guys the bad guys the cow guys, and we start with good guys as always would you like to go first or do you want me to go? I I will probably have to go. I want all these again, I'm running out of breath because you know, have backgrounds and also I have the flu a good guy. The week for me enemy in action. Say first off we are good guys to be in Minnesota in give them the juju to win that game in the bar. We wanted to be that at that game that upset a viable Jordan Murphy, twenty three and ten we watched. That game. We saw Minnesota people, you know, going after their explaining, you know, the different facets of the Minnesota offense to their significant others in a bar while we wait while we waited to timber wolves game. So I would say we give ourselves credit for being in the moment being there watching a game at the barn. Wish you were there live, but we're guardless we went to the T wolves games. Instead, but good guy that week for me your very own northwestern basketball, coach, Christopher Collins, son of Doug Collins. And I know you're thinking you're like this is a low hanging fruit, y you know, throw throw shade on a guy that's already struggling this season in a guy who struggled last season. This has nothing to do with any of that this has to do with the good guy move. And this is why headline Mark Titus? Michigan has a fan in north Western's. Chris Collins and my goodness. We got some quotes. I thought Michigan played this is after they lost Michigan. Of course. I thought Michigan played very well tonight. And they're a terrific. Team. You just got all he did was just give those guys credit. He pretty much names every single person on the team you add Charles, Jordan pool. Iggy that group couple with livers in those guys off the bench, sterling they're going to be difficult to be whoever is playing them. And of course, I mean, you're Ohio State buckeyes played them last night. We saw them play at a pretty predominant level. I would say little unfair for Chris open and our guys because they didn't have class that was like the first time. That's how cold it is. Like Michigan's canceling us. How if I could stop saying teen? Yeah. Please. Michigan never has class. We keep it classy. But they don't have class right in my right, folks. Ohio State fans, you know, what I'm talking about. Yes, crowd goes wild. Chris collins. He's basically sucking up to what I consider the best team in the big ten right now. Even though, you know, I guess we have to say that because Michigan state loss at Purdue. We'll talk about that game too. But I I just wanna point out. This is the very good guy. Move of Chris Collins, who you know, we remember the struggles of last year when we had the games where no he lives here. Visit last year. I no, no, no, no, no, no, Mark. This is not a did they beat Fayetteville come on? I remember not quite would be very bad guy moves this is this is the good guy moments. And it is a right on time. You know because last year they lost two games within ten days to Maryland. They just lost Maryland. It just seems like he's going to go on a real run. And we got to see what happens with the northwestern faithful because is one tournament enough. I mean, it was the one tournament. But is it enough? Who knows we'll see what happens. I'm sure the journalists up there will figure it out. But good guy that week for me. Chris Collins, northwestern basketball, Mark Titus. Now your time who is your the week. Here's my question to you before Mike agai is. Is there is there a curse in Chicago basketball, where you have in a term success, and then you fall apart after that because the wheels of completely fallen off the sister Jean mobile in oil. This year. There's problems the problems in Loyala will say in northwestern they they go to the tournament. And it was a big deal. But then as you said, it's it's been in the got the Paul Paul what they went to the final four once in the seventies. Right. And then. They died. They haven't been back Sunday, that's all dairy dairy, call it the disease of more disease. It's just too much. They can't they can't handle. This is the whole the whole state of Illinois the the line. I know five go to the final and they're trying to get back. I don't know. I'm trying to connect the dots. Here. There's something going on to Chris Collins. Did he give an official statement on the best player for Michigan? No, he did not he named every single player on the Rosser. And so that's the reason that they're good. This is his that is. Yeah. He's definitely sips guy which Xavier Simpson got a triple double last night. So how state this is becoming. This is becoming a problem for me in my life state Xavier ships a plane while Charles Mathews, not playing well. And there are a handful of people handful troll, as you know, you are, you know, who, you know, who are on Twitter that that Turkey me every time savers Simpson like makes two baskets in a row, and they're like, hey, dump fuck. Where's your boy? Charles Matthews now. Yeah. I don't know. I I don't care enough to to like this isn't a bridges brunch and situation where like I generally was was team bridges Al fighting to the death about that last year. I just for me. I like Charles Mathews better. I think trials Matthews is the best defender on the team. I think here's the thing Tate. If we're being honest with ourselves the funniest thing about Michigan this year in Michigan fans. Go nuts Xavier Simpson as they should. He's a good player. He's a great player. He he shoots fucking hook shots any blocked Caleb lesson shot last night. And he had a triple double on down the line. A lot of reasons. The love the guy was funny to me Tate. Is that Xavier Simpson is basically a poor man's Aaron craft and these people these Michigan feds who despise aircraft who spent four years, or should I say twelve years watching aircraft? How state said this guy's a bum. He fucking sucks at and they get their own version of aircraft. Now, it's like this man is the greatest point guard in the country. So say this swaggie pool is definitely my vote for best player on the team because I'm a momentum guy. And when he got walk last night. You know, you just gotta say, it's all swaggie pool. Again, he hit the shot last year where it doesn't matter where you stand as long as you stand with Michigan. And that is almost exactly what you say. That's the funniest part about it is like I like, it was the funny thing last year with the Villanova. We were talking about bridges and Brunson said, you know, at the end of the day. I'm basically saying I love your team. I love all your players. That's why I was like a fight with people. But Michigan fans are taken it. Too far. We we'd like Michigan last year because of Dunkin of we like him this year, they're fun to watch. It's a it's a it's a fun college program that your four they quote, unquote. Do it the right way. Whatever that ship means. There's a lot of reasons to love Michigan. Michigan fans. I don't love your team that much though, calm down a little bit. You got people last night like tweeted at me like how I mean, they know how she ever house state, but they would stimulate Jordan pool. A apparently he did some OH. Oh thing with his hands in the final. Oh was him. Make it a circle around his balls. I people. Yeah. People were tweeting to send me like Titus. I'm sure you love this up like I mean. Yeah. But come on. That's my school at the end of the day. I'm still cheer for house stays calm down. I don't love your teeth that much Michigan fans. But I do I do them. Anyway, that's our mission stuff. Michigan. I I should say this to last podcast would we recorded on Friday night. Like, right as the I think we were commenting throughout the pod that Michigan Indiana's about the tip off. Right. As the podcast was indeed. I don't I don't think we made it. I don't think it was recorded on the podcast. I don't think actually said it. Maybe I did. I assume identity because no one said anything to me. But I said something to you take it must have been right. If forgotten recorded I said like I this Michigan Indiana game. I think it's going to be interesting. I think like if Indiana is gonna pull their head out of their asses. It's gotta happen tonight. This is again over whatever house like I think this one might be closer than the experts think keep an eye on this one is like, okay, cool. Whatever we hang up the phone. And then I turned the gave all those like thirteen nothing or something. Yeah. I think my phone buzz right after and you're like, it's already twelve zero. I was like, ooh. Yes. Versity though, maybe that's what it was gets out everything I said. Except the exact opposite. Speaking of teams in Michigan. Speaking of the big ten in general, Mike, good guy. The week is a man who needs no introduction a man who's who's saga? We don't really need to update the people because we've been talking about a lot on this podcast. His name is Tom. His name is Tom Izzo in his team. Just lost their first big ten game of the season at Purdue. And is the sky fall in any slanting Tate? That's the question is is like because producers up what like twenty three I wanna say with twelve minutes left. It was a complete blowout proved blue Michigan state out. Meanwhile, as we said, Michigan Michigan goes into Bloomington blows, Indiana, Michigan's got it back after losing, Wisconsin. So the question is is the sky fall in east Lansing, and you and I have been a head of this for a long time. We know the skies definitely not falling. We know that all of this is going to Cording to plan. So I want to congratulate good guy Tom Izzo who purposely through this game. He finally got what he wanted. Josh Langford iceberg. Josh Lankford to be back next game. That's pretty much it. It's a simple as that tape. He's he was waiting for the loss loss happened. And now Izzo even though is a what are the courts I have here. Okay. So is that says some someone forwarded me this that after that game, a Colin pouncey of the athletic tweeted this? He said the Izzo says he doesn't have an update on link for injury. He says in this is the key part is says he's not one to hide injuries. You know, how many times? Yeah. He so direct to make sure that people know, he's not hiding anything. Even though it sounds like he's hiding something. And I will say in that game. I mean, Purdue was up what they doubled him up before half. Or maybe it was like thirty two to sixteen in that game. And we were giving the tweets, you know, midday cold outside it's heating up in here in Mackey arena. I thought that Purdue might be your bag guy because the Purdue giving obviously. And then this are remember last year is oh tried to throw a game. Chris Collins and north western not to bring it back to Chris Collins, but they were up like twenty seven or something like that. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And then biggest comeback history. The shell like twelve percent and is a one. So I guess I was trying to throw that game. And give it to Chris Collins. You know what I mean? So maybe Chris Collins is like that's why it's done with Michigan state after they did that to him. That's why sucking up to Michigan. And then Purdue this year, they were they were gifted the game. They deserve to have this game for Izzo to throw this game for them to have this moment. And I mean, doesn't this don't for you doesn't this help with Carson Edwards case the win big ten player of the year. This is the well signature win. Right. Yeah. It is. But cars cars numbers is not winning big ten player there Ethan apps running away. We kind of we went over this on the last pot like that. This is not is just not be saying. I forget, what are we sure that's going to happen. This is not me sane. I vote for Ethan. Have this is me saying if I'm gambling on big ten player of the year? I would put my house on eastern half winning because of like a career accomplished. Like, the only way even have doesn't win as if Wisconsin does falls apart and like. Wisconsin finishes in the top four or five Ethan hatched win the thing. Like there. I saw Matt norlander today tweeting or maybe it was yesterday. He he's trying to get the Ethan have for national player their conversation started date. I'm telling you, these people love Ethan have and rightfully so I I've had I've made my my opinions on Ethan half clear through through the years, certainly. So I don't really need to revisit that. But this dude is going to win victim player there. But I do through the larger point. Yes carson. This was a good game for Carson had rejects. But but I don't like the cash Winston played while too. So it's not really the bread. Davidson is the moment some guys. So he's the best team to me. But but again back to back to this game back to Carson Edward acted is a back to Purdue. Michigan state is oh so the the Josh link for dang. We said is those been trying to throw games for awhile. He's been mysterious about the Josh Langford injury. He said this like four or five different press conferences, I'm not one to hide injuries. But I'm pretty sure like the official ruling on. Josh Linford's injury is just mysterious injury. Like, that's what it's officially called. Now is just the Josh Langford mysterious injury. Because no one has any idea with the folks going on with this thing. But it gets it gets better take because not only was was the Josh Langford. The the adversity that is always trying to build. We also have it was found out that Nick ward apparently has the flu. So does the video coordinator Michigan state, these these are all facts that are being leaked by. You know, is is knows what he's doing. He's like, hey throw this onto the public will throw this out there. We'll get that adversity going. So we got we got two guys in the program with the flu we got the cow arms back injury who he didn't play against Purdue. And it is says I think ours is going to have a bad back the rest of the year because I don't think about he goes, I've never had a lot of injuries. But a bad back is not a good injury to have of can you confirm that the jets not a good injury. I also have the flu. So I feel like I'm playing for Michigan state at this point. So he we we got the arms back. We got the Lankford mysterious injury. We have the Nick ward flu. And then take they lose the Purdue. They get their asses handed to them. They kind of come back there at the up losing by ten but they're down twenty something. The game was well on reached in the second half. And they they get on the plane to go back to east Lansing and the plane basically wouldn't start and a Michigan state had to get on. A bus and drive from west Lafayette back to east Lindsey instead of flying. And my question to you Tate, you and I were in Minnesota as we said on Tuesday we flew out of Minnesota. It was cold shit in Minnesota. That is the story. They're putting forth is at Michigan state could not fly from west Lafayette because it was too cold in west Lafayette, like the plane when star in basically like this the cold wouldn't allow the plane to work and we flew for Minnesota with no problems. So does this smell like more bullshit to you? The Tom Izzo was like we just lost. I'm gonna lay it on a little thicker and make the guys right back in a bus 'cause they didn't earn the right to fly in because I say, yes, I say, yes, this is just another level. Another layer to the manufacturer adversity. I see right through this car. Play the music. Titus. This is the Michigan state mystery because this all checks out to work because I will say this Joey Brooks friend of the program Purdue he sent a Snapchat. That was ten degrees. Complaining about ten degrees. Are you kidding me? If you're in positive agrees. I don't wanna hear it. So ten degrees. That's not bad. You you can fly ten degrees. And we were on a jetway. And I'll tell you this. I was on a jet late praying is I'm sitting on a plane with the flu just praying that this thing will take off. There will be no problems. I'm just waiting for them to drop some sort of like, you know, we have to the plane. Sorry, guys. I mean, it's negative fifteen outside what you expect from us. And I would understand that. Because again, it's negative fifteen outside houses playing to work in the first place in we took off no problem. No questions asked. So if you're Tom Izzo, you're trying to create this controversy in versity all this sort of stuff that we know he's doing again every time he says, I wish he would just stop sub tweeting you into say at Mark Titus. Because we know he's saying it directly to us that. But anyways, he wanted to come on come on the button of yourself. He wanted to pay penance for the Purdue loss. And we know what coaches do I don't know if you had this. But like when we lose a game. Sometimes our coaches wouldn't stop the bus. But you know, you're supposed to get food and feed the kids. She just wouldn't stop the bus. You'll just drive straight home. So Tom Izzo was like I'm gonna teach these kids a lesson. They're not gonna fly like the, you know, they're big timers or something we're gonna take this bus. But then leak into the public the plane didn't work. You know, what I mean, just so he doesn't look like the bad guy. He's still playing the good guy role. He can you know, decide this just what happens, you know? It is what it is. And teach these guys lesson and it's a ride on a bus at us the warm up. So it was probably cold on there. Flu exactly exactly I have another theory with this that I think he's trying to pull the the Michigan thing. Remember Michigan two years ago? Like right before the big ten tournament they had the plane runoff the skit off the runway. And then they like ever again. Yes. Game since the last three years since that plane, they became yard Michigan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's some of that. I think is like playing troubles is the way you take your team to the next level. We're gonna make up bullshit thing about being to cold. And we're gonna make these guys read. That's that's gotta be it. As for the actual game. Michigan state like this isn't surprising like stick aside about the manufacturer visual kind of stuff. This was Michigan state's fifth fifth road game in the last seven games. They played five row out of their last seven cashes Winston systens link. I been out in our has the back thing foster lawyer the little short white kid from Michigan that. Yeah. Is he's a freshman. Michigan state. It's pretty clear like is doesn't trust this guy. I'm not saying Choudhury shoot it, but he played one minute against Purdue. And I think that's kind of indicative of lake like, basically, I bring that up to say that he is running cashes Winston into the ground. Caches Winston in the first fourteen games. Michigan state played this year. He played in thirty five plus minutes. Three times three times out of fourteen games in the last seven games. He's done at six times. So dismayed is tired the plane on the road a lot. You're asking caches Winston to basically do everything it was sort of inevitable that the wills. We're gonna fall. Off for Michigan state at some point. And they're going to have a loss like this. It's exactly as planned is those Izzo smiling. Like, this is so exciting I can pull out the shoulder pads in practice now and pretend like a mad and really this is the greatest thing ever happened. And Josh I probably gonna be back next game. So there you have. Yes. Yes. We're gonna return players one of our starters, very again. But what ago L, by the way? Happy birthday Tom Izzo. It isn't birthday today turned sixty four today. So there's that. Keep it on. I should say, by the way. I should also mention bills birthday. Happy birthday Christian bell red. Cheney. Oh nice. Cow's become really conservative since going to Utah. You guys have a bad guy with thirty minutes. Dude who gives a shit people that listed. So last night. I was at the club drill beer vet like first of all I'm just going to do this now because it makes sense to do it. Now. Thank you to everybody who came. It was an awesome event. Like, I couldn't believe how many people showed. It was crazy. How many like we had to turn people away people fighting each other trying to get it in like, we weren't even sell tickets, but people were scalping tickets out there just to get. It was insane. The police got called it was it was a wild event. And I can't take guys enough but tape the got like two questions more than any other. We'll get I'll do the power rankings the questions people can't say one, where's Colin Tate? I don't think you understand where these mid live and they're not gonna fly into Columbus. Just for this. Number two was like is Tate dead. And then number three is like what is good guy? Bagai gauge you explain. And this all night. And then like other people were like, listen to me explain this to people in their like, dude, that's the charm of the whole segment is that it's just a cluster fuck, and we all love it. So yeah, my point is step by confirmation last night got it. Yeah. Confirmation last night that people don't actually want structure, they like it. When the we have we think we have structure in everything just spirals out of control. I wanna I wanted to comment on. Yes. Please produce playing basketball. That was my comment that non conference schedule. I thought it was Carson Edwards. I thought it was basically Carson Edwards in some white guys. Like, drip Padro in harm's inclined of DRO pulls his growing, and then these young freshman, the Wheeler in basically the calebs wanting to point oh guy. They're playing really well harms of plane, while flying won't miss any Klein shoot. Like fifty something percent from three January. They're coming together. They're nice team there. They're still they're still not going there. Still going there. Ceilings the Sweet Sixteen as we know. But yeah, this is not a not a one man show any more. So I just wanted to bring that up. Congratulations purdue. You did any forgot about my boy eastern, double double twelve and eleven. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Notable eastern. Your all American picks. The one that I get pointing out to all the producers, and they were like, yeah. Totally. Sure. Yes. Sure. Man. Whatever you say, I was like a moment some guy. That's what he brings to the table. Barry. Let's bad guys. Yes. Go ahead. You can go first I will give you the honors who is your Bagai of the week bed guy. The week for me is the head coach of your North Carolina. Tar heels, Mr. ROY Williams, the reason I say interesting number one. Yeah. The reason I wrote Williams is the bad guy the week is because like we have mentioned about forty nine times podcast of because our brains are probably still frozen thong out. Roy Williams is also a Minnesota. He was in Rochester Minnesota to visit a five star Ford by the name of Matt hurt in. If you don't know who met hurt is. I mean, honestly, I I know that Williams offered him three years ago. He is down to here's his list of schools. Duke, Kansas Kentucky. And of course, Minnesota. Let me just say ROY Williams is wearing he's wearing. Offsides. In the game said, no the Carolina bench coach K doing the same thing. So it's basically all the bad guys have been wearing shoes to let it be know where they stand in the cool factor. The world penny Hardaway's wearing shoes on the sideline. Obviously. This is a kick for cancer. But if you're wearing like elite Nike stuff, or if you're Pinon you're wearing you know, his his shoes from back in the day. Then it's really set. A statement said the tone is a bad guy. But then for Williams to have his days off and then to fly up to Minnesota in negative degree temps to watch men. Her play in Jim randomly. He's trying to add to a class with bay Cottam onto cod. Class coal. Anthony is a guy that they have on their board. Matt hurt is basically Cobb Wilshire. But skinny in quick shoots. Lot of threes. Looks like he could be, you know, just like like a big time score college basketball possibly white guy. If you don't know that by now based on all. Okay. Up in Rochester. Minnesota. I just have to say to take that flight into negative agree. Tim so watch guy play high school basketball that is a bad guy move. That is a real recruiter move in that is why ROY Williams is my Bagai the week. And then he got stuck there because it was too cold to fly home, right or? No, no, no. It's not actually. Exactly. Yes. Not actually thing. All right. That's a good pick. I respect it. My bag. I stay with me on this one is a little history lesson for young there. My bag. I is is man by the name of Paul Whiteman. This man again history lesson some of you some of youngsters believe that Shawn Miller is the man who invented backdrop ING in the desert. They think these Johnny-come-latelies state think that that Shawn Miller that there is the result of the university of Arizona was playing it by the book before Shawn Miller came to town and then the bags to Olsen lute Olson. That is that is not correct. There is a mandate. Paul whiteman. He is lute Olson's best friend. She owns car dealerships all over to son. He's the best friend in this way Tate. This is a man who had a horse when the Breeders Cup and the name of the horse was midnight. Lou because I swear to God, this is true lute Olson when he was recruiting Tom Tolbert like, Tom Tolbert was on the factory the other school was, but it was basically like Arizona some other school in new supposed to go. The other school in lute Olson comes in at the last minute and gets Tom Tolbert to come to Arizona, and he he basically nicknamed lute Olson midnight loop because he's at the stroke of midnight. He stole Tom Tolbert from the other school stole quote, unquote. In the so this guy had a horse named at midnight lute because of that story etcetera etcetera house at relevant today. Tight his skit to the point. Here's the point Tate. Here is the point Damon Stoudamire head coach of Pacific tweets. This the other day he says guy in the airport said he went to a enjoyed watching me play. Then said I almost hit him with my VFW by the BMW by the stadium in ninety three. Finished what he finished with never seen a college team. Have so many guys with nice whips? And then Stoudamire throws in a struggle emoji. Zip a with zipper over the mouth in the mo- doing like, the the finger of the lips thing. The head coach of Pacific. Yes. The head coach of Pacific. He has since deleted the tweet, by the way. So it gets better Greg Anthony than replies equal tweets. It the the of arts and he says damn he never. No. That's exactly what he said. He said that this guy never see UNLV play, and he put crying laughing Boji. So Greg entities, basically saying like we had better cars, the new and then Stoudamire says I seen y'all's cars definitely way better than ours. And then Anthony Chirps back with this. I heard about that in it's bad. It's emoji of a bag. I heard about that magazine. A- were is they still Cha-ching in it. And then he put crying laughing emojis. And this was the this was the exchange going on in the realm apart beyond like these guys admitting that they were picking up bags back in the day in the nineties as you already brought up Cole Anthony, Greg Anthony, son. And the fact that Greg Anthony is saying the word is that they're still driving bags out there in Arizona as soon as the number to recruit in the country as David Stoudamire coach deficient one school. We're back. The content is back. That is almost unbelievable, but also hilarious. And I just can't believe that Paul Whiteman is basically the Ashley save the Ashley Schaeffer of Arizona is that is a perfect perfect person to have on your side as far as and like BMW like Billy Preston responded. Not better the mind than you know. Just keeps going on like different guys. Chime in overtime Charles Barkley chimes in, you know, not better than my Mercedes at Auburn. That would be great that is. And we did that. Yeah. A pool. Everyone's like, I don't know if I can read between the lines. They ask him. What did he mean by that is like I didn't treat that Mike can't was hacked? The vote is the funniest part about this story is like Stoudamire deleted his original tweet. But he the other ones are still up there. As far as I know select the first one's gone, but you still see like the change with Greg. Anthony, I don't know. It's it's great. So Paul Whiteman. My guy he was yet the car did the guy who I'm not saying that that Damon Stoudamire cars for free. I'm just saying that this this Twitter exchange happened also little since best read is car dealer into sonner Zona. So I don't know you guys can act the dots. That is your. Yes. This is a moment for the backdrop, and guess our wild bags is gonna love that. He's going to I'm excited to student photo shops while bags are good. Good good friend wild bags comes up with. I wish they are show. Miller would've liked all those tweets that would have even been to the next level. Is it time for is it time for cow guy. More March Levi likes all his. Yes. Yes. Re tweets RTR DOT first, I'm active since February of last year guy. We gotta talk about it. Right. It's it's a week this. This is the moment for me. My Cal moment USA game sealing game ceiling, basically, not really, but he hits the three in overtime Jerome drives. The lane kicks him in the corner. He hadn't made a three all game and hits the big three. I think he made like sixty four sixty one when he did that. And that basically shield the game Marquel? Johnson was fighting some sort of weird injury. And they wouldn't let him sit out even though it seemed like he wanted to sit out there like rubbish shit. It was like Josh type thing. Yeah. It was it was strange like he wanted to go back to the locker room. And then they were like no you have to go sit in the front seat. And then keeps put him back in the game later. But that was the couch moment, he hit his one three. Granted he airball to three couple possessions later when they were trying to score basket, but that was pretty much that won that game. But Virginia looked all out of sorts. I mean, understand plain in Raleigh. It it does do that too. I mean, it's loud in there. They got all the fat heads, you know, throwing them up. They got all the Yellen whatever you could ever imagine at every player on your team. So that's always tough to deal with. But they they seem like they were just making the mistakes. They never make like going for steals that they would never go for taking risks sort of play in like what NC style state plays. You know, just kind of having dumb fouls. I saw a couple of times, you know, like Braxton key one time driving into the paint completely out of control. And Marco Johnson comes over just a slap the ball away and just slaps him in the arm at it's a foul. And it's just like why? Or what are you doing by doing that? But Virginia was doing the same things back to state, which is not a good sign for Virginia. But again, it is a tough road game. But the, but cow guy, I mean, he had that big moment that pretty much, you know, got them got him in position to win that game. But what are you gonna bet? Dion the hundred foul, obviously, Jamie lucky, you know, makes that call and hundred does. Kinda come into contact with Marco Johnson. But that's the most state thing that I've ever seen in my life. So he gets three shots three. Yes. They tie six is at sixty sixty three three shots. We're gonna double o. Thi this is all setting up perfectly. And then he misses the first reeds, which is crazy. And that pretty now. We're okay. All right now situation than swishes the second one again Dylan the injury and the last one they take time out Virginia's like all right? What watch for this cross action on the bottom? Don't let them get tip in, you know, look out for funder. Fuck you know, what I mean? Like thunder might get a tip this ball win. You know, keep an eye on that guy. Mark johnson. Does the one thing that you can't do? They're just makes face it. I mean, it was just the most state thing ever. I mean almost feel bad because they not to say that they deserve the win that game. But they played well enough to win that game Virginia played, you know, poorly enough to lose that game. Of course, especially on the road. And it just I just can't believe that game played out the way it did. But cow guy again steps up in the big moment. And I saw Caroline darn in front of the program covers Virginia, that's all people chirp insane. Cow guys very hateful yesterday. Those are NC state fans and. They were mad. They were mad. It wasn't anything that Jamie, Jamie lucky and a lot of blame from from a lot of people. So, but that is the fun of the ACC, and that is the fun of cow guy playing in that environment. So big shot for Cal guy. Tie game. You work out though. He miss he missed the last shot in in regular time, despite you know, going I so Jerome hated that. Yeah. Yeah. I know the type was all out of sorts that game type ballgame that was a of room game not a tie ballgame game we need tie ballgame back speeder. Jamie lucky I just as an aside. I I have a new pet peeve on of how people seem to notice college basketball more than anything else because I guess I probably just consume more college basketball content. There's probably really what it is. But I have new pet peeve of fans on the internet win, you complain about the officials the everyone's like deficient sucks. And of course, it does is college basketball. I'm not saying the fficials are good. But the move of like the officials were Hort like the team that lost is is says deficiencies sucked in you. You sit yourself. You know, you're gonna you're setting yourself up for sour grapes. You know, the, you know, the people are going to reply with like a dancing, Saul. Shakur and be in in rub that shifted in your. So what you do is. You said the official sucked both. Ways. And now, it's like you're still making your point that like we were fucked by the officials, but guys I'm not I'm not mad. I'm not actually mad because I'm I'm admitting that they made bad calls both ways that is. That's my new clip eve of people thinking that like we see what you're doing. Dude. We see what you're doing. You start your team was better than the other team. The officials ruin the game. That's really the point that you wanna make your two soft to like go all the way and say that right? This happens all the time. But that's drives me nuts to be direct. It has to be direct. You know what? I mean. If you stay ended like the officials, you know, like if you do blanket statements like what we're doing with Minnesota early. You know, where you just talk about Minnesota as a as a blanket thing, if you just say, the is that's not pointed enough, it has to be Jamie lucky put point nine seconds on the clock when it was seven point one in may today. You know, what I mean, Jamie hooky made the call for during hunter on that foul fits direct that I know at least, you know, your your hate has pointed which you know, I can appreciate because at least, you know, it's it's not trying to play the both sides. So there's that Seitz TV teddy turned us back and you're out. You know what I mean? Yeah. But also though say both. Just stand just be like we got fucked. We would've won. But the officials fuck us to say that's what we really want to say. So just say don't say the bad both ways. I felt like both ways as people are going to be like, oh, wow. This guys have really rational thinker here because he said both ways he took his bias out of this is that one and then the other pet peeve is the the people in red at go into the other teams forums, and like, hey, I'm a Packers fan, but I come in peace, and I just wanna say young agreed team. And anyway, that's the thing. Those are nice guys. Yeah. Nice guys. It's like, hey, Barish were really good this year. Just wanted to say that it's like to stop it. Everybody. Stop it here. My Virginia thaw state, oh, I was actually this game. This I came away from this game. I don't want to overreact. But this is a problem. This was this entire game against NC state. Was Syracuse twenty sixteen NCAA tournament game. That's exactly what it was. It was the exact same game. I thought Virginia gets out to big lead. They're just slowly imposing their will as they do just like a boa constrictor tightening their grip on the team. It gets certain point to kind kinda let their foot off the gas. And then their opponent starts pressing out of halfway since the desperation halfway dislike. You know, maybe we'll try to speed them up because they don't like the place low. Some NC state starts pressing Virginia starts taking dump shots turning the ball over into state starts chipping away in snowballs goes out of control. And that is a problem for me. Because like I said this when they lost the Duke. I don't really have a problem with the Duke loss because I felt like Virginia showed me something which is a plan b this is the problem with Regina every year. This do they have a plan b they can run their system. But when she hits the fan, can they can they adapt? Can they changed what the game is throwing them the do game? I was actually encouraged even though they lost because I said, okay. So if a situation calls for it and they need to play ice. Oh ball de'andre hundred prove that he can be the guy. You can throw the ball. He can go ice o buckets. If that's what you need. That's pretty awesome. So I was pleased with how they played a Duke, even though they lost. This one is the opposite where they won. But my God that is very concerning. The press that that if this is the nightmare situation. Virginia fans that this happens again than say tournament, and I'm a little concerned, I'll be honest because if we're if we're gonna talk about Virginia is different from all the other teams of past the virginity this the situation that play against she stayed is the exact same thing happened in two thousand sixteen that led to the embarrassing collapse against Syracuse. And and that's kind of when the Virginia jokes really took off at that point. Right. So I don't know that was my thought, so I really really hope that. Like, I assume they're going to work on this is soon. But I I hope that like something is done about this in. It isn't like I hope that Tony Bennett in Virginia. They don't dislike wipe the Browns who we stole a win. Let's just flush down in that tape and move on. Because to me like this was a serious problem. That win Virginia gets dressed in. This is a whole different group of guys like this is not the team from twenty sixteen. So this isn't like London print is like, okay. I remember last time so Nella me fix. I remember the things I did wrong. I don't know. This is like a new group of guys that they've arrived, whatever. And then this happens against NC state. I'm just glad to happen. Now, not NC turn because I am actually concerned that a team the presses the speed them up. And I mean, they had sixteen turnover state, and they were taking only sixteen turnovers like blowing layups, and it was wild. And then they're taking chances on defense. It was it was they were very very out of sorts. So that's my thoughts. That's my. That's my Kyle update. I will. Again, I will say I mean, you I mean, you say all that about the press and all that sort of getting him out of source, but they'd played out of sorts and they played like they were they played NC states game. I mean, that's the easiest way to put it and by playing their game. They still were able to like they've found a way to win that game. And granted you can say all you want to say about like like the Marquel? Johnson sequence at the end of the game. I mean that is a very fortuitous situation with that worked out well for them. But but de'andre hunter made those late free throws that was big of the shot that, you know, Jerome the guy made that shot that was a big play when the needed to penetrate and get a nice cake on the outside. And he finally hit a three in that one. And I mean it did. I know what you're saying. Just 'cause you win doesn't mean you don't watch the tape and seem like they were content with what I mean, they they seem like oh shit. We got away with one. That's the old way. I think that is fine. That's the old way of Regina thinking, though, is like you you say played poorly, but we still want, and that's what matters most and we're still at the top of ACC we could still when they see and get a once. That is the old Virginia thinking it's fine for a lot of programs, but Virginia's reached a point after you lose a sixteen seat after you have the his the history of choking in. It's a tournament that that we've arrived at this point the philosophy has to be almost you don't go full Duke where you're like, we don't really give a shit about the regular season ACC title, all but there is a little bit of that. We're Duke is trying to win national titles. I think Virginia's should shift. The mindset you don't completely abandoned trying to win these see. But I think instead of Ewing it as like all we have to do is get the win. Just get the win. That's all that matters. We just keep winning everything will take care of self. I think you have to step back and be like that philosophy has not worked for us. Will we need to start doing is is evaluating all the different scenarios that could play out have contingency plan in place. And that's kind of making here is like this was a this was a lesson that if this sort of game presents itself, how are you going to handle it? Tournament. And as of right now, the answer is poorly, and hopefully between now and March that changes for their sake because I think the days of lake it doesn't matter. We just one. That's all that matters. I don't know that was cool, but you've won the ACC. Alright you wanted to you know, you wanna every frigging year one they see tournament. Like you've already done all that literally the only jewel left on your crown that you're trying to build here is incident tournament success a final four. So yeah, that's it. That's a little too. I don't know. I still believe in Virginia. A lot of people last night. A lot of guys that the little vent at the bar last night date, a lot of junior haters, a lot of people a lot of people out on for janea. That's the general public opinion as the people were rushing me in college. So I don't know I I would like for genius to figure this thing out. I should mention by the Cal sounds like state fans in these are though high. Yeah. Of course, I said a eight, and I I said like a few weeks ago that cow guys beyond to get into law school Notre Dame. And I said keep an eye on when he plays the Notre Dame. He's gonna suck. I guarantee it, you know, just in the interest of integrity, I'm gonna admit I was wrong cow guy dropped fifteen points in the game before then she said over the weekend they played at Notre Dame. He had fifteen six again the field. So. Whoops. It's all right. It was a good song. There's this Virginia update. This isn't Kyle Virginia. So we're talking about did you see the Tony Bennett's wife? I think her name's Yanni. She was asking for Duke tickets on Twitter. She was like does anybody have tickets for the game? And a phony Bennett, our friend of program, phony Bennett the parody account. He says the guy tweets out of he said, don't you know guy who can hook you up in the neon event says the pro here's the direct quote. The problem is that we can only discuss the very next game. That's the only game that matters right now. So that that. That's the latest, isn't it? That's perfect. Yeah. Trying to do. You can't ask your husband because her husband's only focused on to game in front of him. Not to do game. Anyone? Perfect the dancer. Can we do cows guy real quick? Yeah. Cow go head guy. So you guys know that I probably shouldn't admit this. But I like north of ninety percent of my college basketball info from you guys in I saw just a small bit of the Ohio State Michigan game. And there there was swaggie pool. Doing this thing it knows sis-, no rebounds. But he was getting done fifteen points. And it just, you know, it's nice to know like, it's nice when the shoe fits, and then I'll make sense like, you know, I based on your ideas of swaggie pool. And what I hear is nice. When he you know, he fits the Bill so feels good I felt informed. So thank you guys. Okay. Perfect swaggie pulled up to the hype is always Greg guy pool is why he is the original swaggie the leaks though is Nick young in the league. No, he is not he's waiting for the call from LeBron for the offs. Isn't that isn't that kind of alerts that like de ngelo Russell took the video swaggie and like everyone treated like swaggie P was you can't do that to pee. You gotta go like you have to treat the ngelo Russell because he pissed off swaggie knowledge. Now, Nick young out. I dunno seems like it was kind of the Lakers mishandled that whole situation in someone's gonna tweet at me be like you don't understand the cap prove that cleared. The would that was my understanding Dangelo Russell pissed off Nick young. It was like we gotta keep one. And obviously we're going to keep Nick young because he swaggie he has the me where he shot the ball. He turned around for wind and he has the confused face. And we have to keep him. Right. And the now Dangelo Russell's killing it, Nick young satellite. So that's funny in the nets are gonna pick THEO Pinson by for the net. So that was great great pit cow. And then cows guy, John Calvin Harris guy the week for me Derrick rose, he just tweeted his at one of the best teammates to play any sport was hard himself. But never team will take a backseat to let someone shine. But would always put himself on the line to win love you at D rose. And that's all about this dare grows documented this coming out that actually looks pretty interesting, but I just. Point out. I mean d- rose cow. I mean, I don't know about the word choice put himself on the line to win. I mean, you know, granted that was tough with Mario's miracle, but I love cow showing love to Memphis guys, especially Derrick rose who soft spot for. I wish Derek would've played when we were Minnesota. But didn't quite work out. He's got sore knee. Yeah. My my cows got take was going to be Anthony Davis for basically demanding trait yet demanding which is Louis, and yeah, the the NBA's the WW, and I love it. It's so funny. I don't know. It's just it's so perfect. I have so many thought everyone just kidding. We're already in our end. So I'm just gonna move on. But I was going to be is for. I just have so many thoughts on how the NBA operates. And I love watching the basketball. But God they have the the the WWE stuff that goes on is like hysterical. But anyway, he was going to be my pick Tate, but then Kentucky play Kansas on Saturday night and the cut to the bench. And I know cows guy is supposed to be appropriate. But this was too good. It has to be bread. It has to be a son for the outfit to Kansas game. A pro dresser. Yeah. Yeah. He he had turtleneck on. He had the sport coat over the turtle neck. He had the chain over the turtle neck. He had the shitty haircut where like his dumb and dumber thing. Like his bangs like a half inch long. And it was like a bulk. And oh my God. What what a what a look that was. I don't house describe it. Call you look this up by the way, Google break Calipari images. For the game. It's it's called the Drake. Take care look. And he went full in on it. The mock turtle saying his stretch. Yeah. So shadows grad. Shuttled to shout out to Kentucky, by the way. Should should. We talk for about Kentucky. Like rope quickly that Kentucky is yet. They I don't know if you've been paying will they started this trend. We we set on the last podcast. We were hoping that Kentucky Kansas would save us was content. And they've really, you know, I mean, it started the the slope towards good things because Kentucky and that game was fun to watch. They they beat Kansas game sort of sets the now we're gonna talk to Kansas a little bit later. They lose the Texas. Obviously, also lose the Kentucky. But in that game that sort of started the trend towards good things. Good topics. Good good MO Jo around all things college basketball. And so we'll get cow credit for that. Because that was a fun game for Kentucky. And they seem to be now. I'm seeing headlines everywhere like is is Kentucky legitimate title contender and side of the country. Now, I mean, you know, that's a bit of a stretch. But it is what it is nice to see that all those guys back in the lexicon of competing for title. So let's let me let me let me paint this picture for you say the do. Game didn't happen that was an exhibition. It was just like like they didn't play the Duke game in vendor. They played it in July in the bombers. And it was just an exhibition game. Let's let's go with a secret scrimmage that was televised. Let's pretend like that happened. And then let's say Kentucky gets to appoint Tyler heroes shooting is like third on the team in shots second. This basically like it by the time the term it comes around. It is clearly PJ Washington team. Like, it has been the last two games. Repu J Washington's plane out of his mind. Would you believe in that Kentucky team because I think that for me like they're slowly getting there in the two hangups are the Saint hangups? It's kind of been all season, which is one. I'm sorry. I I'm slowly coming around on their hero. I really am. I'm love. I love that. The man has no conscience. That's like I'm starting to love that. Like the thing. I hated about him the most I actually kinda respect the shit out of it because he convinced eight shots in a row, and he's still trying to dunk on people just like a one track mind, and that's pretty cool especially when he's making shots. The, but but I worry that like you can't you're not winning national championship with Tyler heroes your best player or like as your go to guy. We you're funding him the ball. And you're letting him shoot eighteen times a game. That's not happening and other hangup is ado game. It's just like it's hard to it's hard to pretend that that didn't happen. But if there's a world where one we can readjust the the hierarchy of Kentucky where where it gets the point where it's like PJ Washington is the guy the offense runs through him. He's the face of this team Tyler hero. You are very good. We will let you shoot three's. We'll let you try to score. But make no mistake. It's PJ Washington team. You get to that point. And then I don't know something happens where I can forgive the Duke loss is that is that how this is gonna end Kentucky Duke and then say tournament, I think it's how it has. That's that's where we're headed. We're getting the the Villanova Oklahoma situation where Oklahoma beat the hell out of Illinois oven Hawaii in twenty sixteen you remember this, buddy? Yep. And then you'll know returned the favor and beat the shit out of them. I feel like that's the vibe. I'm getting honestly like the Kansas Kentucky is gonna play Duke in the elite eight in duke's going to be favored by like nine and a half points because do be shit out on the first game Kentucky is gonna win in Tyler heroes gonna have thirty eight points. And then my timelines it's going to be people tweeted me. Speaking at least you're saying. Uh-huh. All the other the bracket like Xavier Simpson is the most outstanding player in his regional and Virginia loses to a sixteen seat again. Everyone's like you dumb ass tightest. That's a life. That's a life on commentary. It'll be yeah. I like the the point is I like Kentucky Kansas though. Yeah. Sorry about Kansas for two minutes. Kansas. That's my thoughts on Kansas fucking suck. You can't score at the basket. You can't hit threes. You have no desire to play more. I think Kansas fans are over the season thirteen just doesn't even care like the freshman kit. I forget his name. The I want France Expedia make fun the Bazi or something right of the fridge at like twenty four. Yeah. He played that kid plays hard. He cares. He clearly cares. The rest of the team even Dietrich Lawson just kinda like kinda get my nineteen ten and go sit on the bench. Look, I don't really really won't be here anymore. It's it's he Joe Jerry the fuck knows going on. I don't know, man. He got worked in that game by Jackson Hayes that another good moment for Jackson Hayes in his whole, you know, run to be top fourteen top fifteen pick in the draft so thousand June to see I think is good for shock at good pub for shock a lot of people turn it on him a little bit. So we'll see what Bill self does. But this could be the Mark Titus that Kansas finally gets knocked off. So we'll keep an eye on that for sure. Okay. So what will make you care what what will make you really grab your attention? And and you said this could be the year, but we kind of say that every year, and what point this is for real. I know that's what I'm not kind of point will no longer be a joke. No, no, not real. Honestly at this point. It's been too long. It's one thing like three years. You know, what I mean, this is this has been too too long of a string of events for it to be some that you could decide a predetermined in February. I mean, they would have to lose. I would say like five straight for to be real, honestly. And that's never gonna happen. Because at the end of the day right now, Kansas has not lost at home. They are going to have they have the best homecourt advantage. If not in all of college basketball, certainly all the big twelve and you start you start doing the math. You're playing eighteen conference games night of our home. Right. So if Kansas like every single season for the most part, there's a decent chance that Kansas go nine at home. So they're already starting with nine wins, basically. And then you split the other night if they go formed five on the road, which I think they're like one in five games right now, they're not great on the road. They're horrible. But if they can find a way to go like in the conference play go four and five on the road. Even you're looking at thirteen in five that might be good enough to win the big twelve again. So yeah, they're they're this is not a team that inspires any sort of confidence in anything. But at the same time for God's sake state Baylor is currently sitting atop the big ball standards. They got your season. Let's go Scott, drew, Scott, drew Baylor was in the non conference schedule. I I remember vividly Baylor Baylor one in Arizona, I called I called Sean Miller. My good guy the week. I said he lost it will horrible Baylor team at home, I called him horrible Baylor is now currently sitting atop the big twelve. It's got time your thoughts. Yes. The question will be answered officially that. That's what I really hope is far as outcome comes. I mean, it's like if Scott wins knocks off Kansas than he's officially coach. There is no more questions to be asked. He has proved his point in now, he is at Baylor forever. So let's hope for that. That's my best case scenario for this whole big twelve situation. This whole Kansas situation. This bag dropping situation all the situations. In college basketball is let's got drew is Kansas streak where Kansas the pre. Let me paint. This picture Kansas was the preseason number one team in the country. If their streak of big titles is ended by Scott drew team that lost Texas southern and Stephen F Austin. And that's how Scott drew gets his first ever conference championship. Is that a bigger upset the U MBC video Virginia discuss? But it might be it really might be. What do you think about it that way the number one team Kansas the number one team in the country? It's got through started off the season in Texas other. Now, he said, the big twelve standards. It has no that's probably how everything's gonna shake out in Baylor's definitely gonna win. The league in Kansas is not because we've never experienced this before never been physician before. Anything else about this up? Leaky blacks, better went down to ankle injury against Georgia Tech and sitting good vibes. OB feels better best name in college basketball. And then what are the games we have to watch coming up this week? I don't trying to think is there anything. Yeah. Those anything. I don't think there's anything major. I mean this weekend is Saint John's Duke. So we get the New York matchup, which is going to be interesting. We get Lou Lou, we'll get Louisville. Carolina also on Saturday, which is a big game is garbage ballers play Marquette right now record in this that that's going to be getting buzzers actually favorite known. And then is I dunno Gonzaga had BYU tomorrow night. Thursday night can be why he's never Wofford Lawford Mercer Wofford fighting for the chance to go undefeated to make it at Annette large bid possibly Vaga. Get sounds like what sounds like the Friday still talk about terriers. Yeah. It's gonna be a great show. We're talking about civic L of you, of course, Gonzaga BYU all the us anything else. Chat from you. Yeah. We have to shout out the penny. Hardaway. This this. He doesn't press reject. They win the other day. I said at the start of the year, I wasn't gonna follow this. I just wanted to follow Memphis in the media because that's really helped with penny wants me to do. I'm just being loyal servants Penny Hardaway, I'm not gonna actually watch his team play. I'm just gonna be you're being an NBA. You're treating ragged is what he wants. That's what he wants. And speaking of him warning being things that leads me to this quote that he had on Monday where he said I'm getting used to this as a coach this being the disrespect because it's a little jealousy. From a lot of these coaches around the country. I do understand that because we are NBA players trying to come back in. We didn't have any experience Kelly, college coaches, so we didn't quote unquote, pay our dues. So the coaches in their so called boys that are in the media. They're going to always throw jabs at us. And then he continues for sure I definitely feel like there's a target on my back. There's a lot of people that don't want me to succeed because it's going to lose like an MBA guy came back with no experience of once. Of course, I relish in that that was pretty. Hardaway's, quote, he is the first band in. He's the only coach in college basketball. He pleaded NBA and then became a coach. I'm not sure if you knew this that crystal doesn't exist in every Johnson doesn't exist. Patrick ewing. Doesn't exist in David stout admired babies, yet Damon Stoudamire, Tony veterans. Christmas. It'll be coaching on Saturday against. Yeah. Paranoid penny is. It's something else. Why are you so paranoid pity? About the best part about as he wraps everything up this. I'm not here to ruffling feathers. I'm just here to win. This is a man who was very clearly ruffling feathers. In saying I'm going to be in lieu losing. And then also need I remind you one month ago, he called Rick Barnes low class. He said, quote, Rick Barnes is doing a little bit too much. And he said quote, rip Barnes get the fuck out of here. Yes. All those. But he doesn't wanna ruffling feathers. He is he's not trying to ruffle feathers. He's just trying to go out there and win and the. And the haters won't be Malone. The video I shout out. And I hope we can put it in there. I'm watching this Kentucky Vanderbilt game. And it's a blow out Kentucky Kentucky gives vandy the first-half. Tony it's forty five. Fifteen I think Kentucky in the first half of twenty three run. It's ridiculous. We come back in the second half. And I forget who was calling the game with Jimmy dykes. But it doesn't matter for the story that they start doing the thing where they dislike completely lose track of what's going on in the game to start talking about nonsense. And it basically gets brought up the Jimmy dykes. Long story short Jimmy dykes admits that once upon a time in his life. He lived in Nashville for nine months trying to make it as a country music singer at anyone who watches game knows. I'm not lying. If you didn't watch the game. I'm not I'm not lied. And I swear to God. This is true people on the internet. Doug, like he mentioned the song that he saying recorded. I feel I can't even see right now. I can feel you on the other line. Like where is this going tight is bullshit in? I this is all hundred percent true. I believe on the internet people on the internet dug up his the song in I made clip. Here's the song. Yeah. You're gonna be upset about that. He's going to be upset about that. That was don't break. His that was his key Burkey hard moment. Didn't quite work out. But good for you. Jimmy. What it go for it? Chase your dreams. It's actually not as bad as I was hoping it would be. But any of that any anybody that starts going to national make an album? I'm I'm good luck. But I'm probably not gonna listen. Yeah. Yeah. You your your taste described by Jin? Jim cunningham. He said that Tate doesn't like any music has Qatar. And then I got the no you better. I'm like holy shit. That's supposed accurate thing. I've ever heard about anybody. I've never once music guitars being played of rock. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's drum. Drums, drums guitars. Yeah. So you're. Percussionist being anything. But that God bless you Jimmy dykes. I I have a feeling that we might find something to do this on as point a rocking little heartbeat. God bless lash out Tate. We really will go. The one Hernandez is withdrawing Miami. He was suspended for the rest of the season in forty percent of next season. And he said tell with that I quit. You can't fire me, I quit and he's drawing for Miami. And yeah, that's that. Meanwhile, Silvio Susa still trying to figure out Sosa trying to figure out whether he's going to be eligible for Kansas. And I'm really excited. I'm calling the shot. He's going to be declared eligible the next week or so, and then Jerry Tarquin, quote is going to be popping up and everyone's going to say. Jerry, Arcadian said this, folks. Yes, that is what I have a vet is as is tradition. As is tradition. All right. That is the show for listening. We love you guys. Take get better. Go see a doctor. She just literally any doctor. You have like every element in the world. The the fate of the show depends on you. We need you. We need you at a hundred percent. You know? So we'll see what happens. Get you. Go get your flu fix go. Get whatever the hell else. You have going on fixed. I got antibiotics I don't know if they have those for back. So we'll keep pushing though until until next time as they say is most gonna speak finally is this is the chance of Moses. Oh, yeah. He's not in the right? So I don't I don't believe we had a we had a long talk about it. He was like why would you do that to me put me on the spot? Yeah. Don't ever do that to me. He's not in the room right now. So we'll try we'll try to. He's trying to work on it. Yeah. You get stage. He's he's not ready for the spotlight. Just yet. We got we got to get reps. He needs to put it in ten thousand hours. I speaking perfect next time. We'll be back Friday thinking for this.

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A Matter of Honor

Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

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A Matter of Honor

"Final frontier this about saving the future of. It's huge three times. Graduate Action is not welcome to another episode of Beam me up a star Trek. PODCAST I am Brent Allen your host and I have seen every episode of Star Trek Multiple Times and I met Sonnenburg in. This is my first time through the series and this is the show where matt is watching select episodes of Star Trek. All for the very first time. I'm in an attempt to figure out why the world needs trek today more than ever Matt. We've got some stuff to share with the folks out there buddy right here at the top of the show doing. I'm super excited. Yeah we got two things two things real quick before we get into it one. We've been working hard on it We had to give ourselves a deadline. But it's out it's going to be out with the release of this episode Hopefully everything we have our own website coming out that it's true I'm excited. Beam me up. pod Dot Com trying to make nice and simple for the folks out there. You guys can remember exactly where it is everything the same. Yeah that's exactly right. Beaming pod twitter facebook website instagram. Social Security numbers still still be me apart if you do the digits but maybe not but anyway but listen you guys over there and check all that out and you know at the end of the show. Where like I give you like eighteen phone numbers and twenty three addresses onto do that anymore? Go Hey go to beat me up pot. It's all over there and you can check out things about matinee. You can check out the show Joe Log. You can check out all that kind of stuff so very excited for that to be up Matt very very excited and personally thank you for your work on the website. You've been the guy behind it so Appreciate that so you guys make sure you check that out the other thing. Matt were rolling out today rolling out with the release of this episode. Our very own patriarch page who I'm excited I'm excited analyst and this is this is a way where you guys are listeners. Listen if you like were doing. You can help. Contribute back to. The show is podcasting is free to listen to always has been always will be But it's not free to produce and also we get to give you extra stuff over there at the Patriot page now. One thing that you and I have learned we are. We are veterans of the podcasting world. Stir and we have both been. We've both had our own patriarch pages for various shows. We've done and the wondering when you and I were talking about this that we said that you know what let's do. Let's not do a bunch of extra stuff. That's outside of our wheelhouse and our will ask producing podcasts. So the big thing that you guys are GonNa get if you over to Patriot and sign up as you're going to get extra podcast we're gonNA give you extra content Matt. Why don't you tell them what at least at the beginning running what that extra content is GonNa well it? I'm guessing Awad people can probably guess exactly what it's going to be out hopes. It's all of this. Extra viewings stuff keeps talking about that. He he wants me to go watch and where he may or may not find time to talk about well. We found a spot for it. Yeah so so. We're going to do that so so there. There are the main course of episodes that fit within the format of of this podcast but the extra viewing side is where all the the kind of. Hey that's a good episode but it doesn't really fit with what we're doing with the big podcast that's where those will get slid into and so matt gets to watch more trek. which only makes me happy? So I'll be watching more track. You'll still be getting myer actions on it. We we won't necessarily surly go as deep into the episodes as we do here on the main show but it's still going to be good out there. I don't know maybe we will matt. I'm not sure if we can help ourselves but we'll see you guys. Listen you go over there and listen. Here's the other thing we've learned. WE'RE NOT GONNA price ourselves out so you guys over there. They'll be various levels and stuff but listen. It's GonNa be a real easy entry point into that so you guys make sure you go over there and check that out. It's patriotic dot com forward slash. Guess that be me up pod and that'll get you right in I to our patriots page so very excited for those new things. Website Patriot page Let's do it. Hey why don't we talk about this episode though because we're talking about star Trek Right. Let's do it all right. Today's episode is a matter of honor. or as I like this diversity day in space. This is the episode where Commander Reiger goes to become the first officer of a Klingon ship as part of a intergalactic exchange programs changed program. Yeah Yeah now Matt before we get into the recap of the episode. I'm just curious water. Sort of your overarching thoughts on a matter of honour surprisingly very surprisingly to me I didn't knows exactly how it's GonNa work out but Reicher makes good Klingon. Yeah I like it I like it. Yeah well you know speaking of Reicher one of the things we like to do is we actually are kind of our character. Spotlights character ashes spotlights. Well this is a Reicher centric episode. Let's talk about Reicher for today before we get to them though. Do you WanNa talk about the two main Klingons that we encountered as well The first one captain Carjon played by Christopher Collins. Now he's not a name that a lot of people are we're going to know and if you go to most fan conventions they're not gonNa know that name really either is important to me though because he is actually mostly known for being a stand up comedian. Oh which is a part of my my past. Now we lost him back. In nineteen ninety four at the age of forty four to a brain hemorrhage so his career is relatively short lived comparatively apparently speaking certain but he is also important to the world of Star Trek because he has a handful of notable credits. He does come back on Star Trek a few more times. But he's a different Character each time as happens with a lot so we'll see him once more next generation. We'll see him a couple of times in the S.. Nine if we watch those episodes I don't even I'm not sure we're GONNA watch those or not but Yeah I just realized something like it's a lot easier for these actors to come back. Even they come back in different roles normally in a TV show. You wouldn't be able to do that right but I think the fact that so many of these characters are from foreign races is which means. They're usually fairly very heavily makeup. Ter- costumed lake. It makes it a lot easier for them to to bring back doctors in different roles. In fact there was actually a part with carjon where I was where I was watching it to to that point Where I was going we is that the guy who plays Martin? WHO's another Klingon that will meet later on in the corner of our run here played by J G Hertzler? Wait is that him a kind of sounds like him. I don't think so. Oh and then say oh no. It's not him at all but it's yeah you're right because that's and that's part of the fun I think of. Why do these characters spotlights because you you know it's like Oh? I didn't know that that guy was also the same guy who did that. Way As we're kind of just now getting Matt into a spot where you've seen enough track and we're GONNA GONNA start with next generation of going. Hey the guy who played this guy. Played that guy on that episode over there. And you're you're start making those connections and it's just fun so we're getting there we're getting the relaying the groundwork for that now Chris Collins Also this sort of stands out to me as a child of the eighties is the vote. He does a lot of voice over his voice actor he was the Voice of Cobra Commander for Gi Joe. Really and he was the voice of star screen for transformers. Well those voices I know but those captures. Here's one you might know as well. He was also the original voice of Mr Burns in the simpsons and Mo- in the simpsons as well but he was he was actually eventually fired from the simpsons in the words of Matt graining for being a male body parts but Yeah so that's Chris Collins. Now playing Lieutenant Klag was Brian. Earl Thomson not a name. You're probably going to know kind of an intermittent in Oregon actor. He gets. Maybe I dunno to one or two roles a year and then he takes a couple years off kind of thing. WE'RE NOT GONNA get on next generation but like Collins. He does make a several more appearances through through space nine enterprise and even in the movie star Trek Generations. Oh He's the guy we're gonNA see again all right Our main cast spotlight today though. Our Very Own Commander William Reicher Aka. Jonathan frakes yes. This is a name you should. Oh now I always wondered how to pronounce actually I in the credits. I'm like how did you to pronounce it. What was the thing but the the simplest seems to be frakes with that? Just doesn't sound right. Necessarily I want to try to make it fancy like fracas case sure wasn't Jonathan. You're jumping yes. Jonah Klingon clear the Clintons now frakes also to me is a special the guy because he and I are birthday buddies. ooh On cinema. Happy Birthday tweet every August. Has He ever responded. Never once not okay. Everyone's we by the way also share our birthday with one. Mr Gene Roddenberry Interesting so I was born to be a trek fan or something you would think so. Yeah now. Jonathan frakes often known to his fellow actors simply as frakes camp. That's that's typically how they referred to him by his last name now frig says a few other acting credits to his his name before track. Obviously this was his big break now. Last week we talked about the beard growing the beard. He is rarely ever seen without some SORTA facial hair today. Like this is just part look. It has continued. He is definitely much older. Now what is it. What are we almost forty years Thirty forty two years past when he's got a little bit of age on them but he's still looks great. There's an upcoming series called Star Trek Card. That's getting ready to debut in just a few weeks from when we heard this. So there goes our evergreen rating for the show Ha today but anyway he makes a return in that You know playing frakes. Hey spoiler alert. They don't die. I at least that that most of the bridge cast does not die. Most most does you've taught I mean for for special reasons like you know Tasha Yar but they went out of the contract contract right. Yeah Right. Yeah but they they. Yeah they don't die or or gates McFadden you know. She's she's out of the show now but that was a die. That was just wrote the show. Oh yeah and so But you know so so there's frakes Now Franks is also one of only two star trek actors to appear in four four different Star Trek series while the other is major roddenberry who actually appeared in five really mostly voice because she is the voice the Federation computer but she you know she has. She does her appearance obviously she did Nurse Chapel in the original one in the original series as well frakes frakes has also done voice acting as well like a lot of people do most notably. I think we talked about this last week. On gargoyles the Tim v Show is David Santos toaster. Whatever his name is is basically the bad guy in Gargoyles The the human right and then he also claimed also appeared on family. Guy Like several times as commander Reicher I I do know. Yeah the the they have star Trek Up. So yeah yeah so they they did that by the way Seth McFarland Greater family huge trekkie. I Lina you. And he's one of those guys when we get to the. I don't know if we're going to get to his episode. But he makes us like a like a cameo does Kinda type than we'll be Goldberg. Eventually he goes on to make his own space. TV show that. I that basically is star Trek. I I kind of assumed trek fan right. Yeah he's he's huge so anyway so there's that now Franks frakes not Franks phrase is also a big trombone players. Well we often talk about these guys have musical abilities. He's a trombone player. It is featured in several episodes of next generation. I don't know if we're going to see any of them but it is there when he's playing a He was he was featured as a trombone player on the you know the band fish yes. He was on one of their albums for a track titled Rikers Mailbox. And do you remember. When we talked about Brent spiner The plays data and how he created his album called old yellow is back. Frank's was also on that album as well with the with Brent. Spiner okay with him there so I and then frakes also is the host of a show called beyond belief fact or fiction. I don't know if you've ever saw that I think it was one one of those things so I think it was one of those summer programs on network. TV and then went over to channel or something like that Now that being said Franks's biggest this contribution I think to not just the world of trek at large But overall was not actually in front of the camera but behind the camera. Okay might be debatable. To I'd say biggest contribution say playing first officer but he comes director chair hey and he directs allot lot of episodes. In fact he over the course of track direct seventeen different star trek episodes plus some of the upcoming new track that is on. TV As we record this Show Tom he recorded several movies. He's done lots of other. TV shows lots of other Films and in different things including things like NCIS ask castle leverage agents of shield the librarians. And just the list goes on and on and on Some novels and he's he's very very very well liked. Does the director. Now one of the things you know. Little background Stuff behind that Star Trek had a program where they actually allowed their actors to learn how to direct. It was like a director school. They offered for their actors and several actors over the course of trek took them up and actually turned into full on directors. Patrick Stewart Art. Would go on to take advantage. This actually lavar Burton was another one who he goes on to direct a lot of stuff throughout I I don't know of. TV's considered Hollywood but and Throughout the various land and he does a lot of star trek episodes as well. That's interesting that they did that. I I see see that nowadays that as if a show makes it past you know like four or five seasons you'll start to see episodes here and there directed by cast members. Yeah and I. I've always kind of wondered like is it just because I have enough money now and I can say hey. I'm going to do this or like how how that happens now. I kinda doubt that all of these shows kind of have these. Hey I'm like a direct programs like it doesn't seem see Mike it and then that would be a consistent thing but cooled that star Trek Star Trek. Did it and I mean you're right. Usually what I see is it starts with actors is writing episodes. Usually Syndrich to their character which I think is is really cool. Christopher Christopher judge who played a guy named tilcon starter stargate. Su You one wrote a lot of tilk centric episodes which makes a lot of sense who knows his character better than he himself and would go on. I think to direct one or two episodes roads and you know and some some actors found that they really liked directing others found that they didn't you know so it was a great way for them to to expand and try that out but frakes this was certainly the most prolific director that has come out of that Star Trek acting school as well. Like I said he'd he's responsible for directing couple of feature movies just like actually Leonard. Nimoy was back with the original series so art matt. That is Jonathan frakes actor you know main cast spotlight. I think we were coming close to the end of this. I think we've hit most of them so far. So so we've got just a few left but for today's episode Matt a matter of honor. It's time for me to turn the show over to you for you. Kinda take the steering wheel and drive us. I'm just kind of walk us through the various parts of the episode that you stop and expand upon any part that you want to start your Eddie. We'll do all right. Let's do matter of honor prologue. The Enterprise is picking digging up some crew members. One of them bin Zayed named men. Don here or more doc or more doc right here on the program and Yeah Wesley Goes. Hey a more doc. My old friend. Yeah and and this this would have been a weird sequence of events since like. Why did we watch that episode Soda Except You told me to watch that episode in the extra viewing? Yes so that you remember that Patriots talk about sixty minutes ago. Actually coming of age was going to be our first Extra extra viewing episode over there on Patriots. He has actually go. CHECK THAT OUT PATRIARCH DOT COM forward slash. beat me up But Yeah so then Zaid is here. He's here on the exchange program Wesley thinks that he's is old for an more doc who should still be in the academy. But it's not because you know they all kind of look alike. You might think he'd get offended but turns out he isn't Oh hey. Hey by the way Matt The Guy who played men don is the exact same guy who played more doc that I wonder if they pulled a stunt onset and Mike didn't tell Wesley that this is actually going to be different character. That one reaction. Yes yes. My name is not Mendome what that'd be funny. I don't that that's one of those things I think would be like in the compendium or something somewhere in Ed. Gosh I wish that was true although I will tell you this star. Trek is very very famous for not allowing anyone to ad Lib like what they wrote was what they they had and they were like a working machine so well I would love to like have that as a story. I don't know that that would have. I don't know what happened when the culture of Star Trek is they. We're creating the show so yeah yeah stream right now. Men Don is super happy to be here and he's eager to be of great help to the Enterprise Picard. Ask Reicher to come to the phaser range where he discusses this officer Exchange Program that they have going on. starfleet wants someone from on the enterprise to participate in the program and they're just happens to be a klingon vessel in the area reicher decides. He wants the assignment. Because no one has ever done it before the card approves and we go to credits credits. Yes so first things first phase arrange I thought was I want to go there. My second thought thought was wait. A phaser rage aboard ship. That doesn't seem like a good idea. Yeah like I once again. I still don't fully understand the powers of the Hollick but if you were going to do something like this it seems like that. That's where it should take place. That was what I was GONNA say. I don't understand why they would have something like this. When you have a holiday on on board yeah I saw someone? Some writer had just been out to the gun range that we can and okay. What if we had a phaser range rates? Well what could that look like a fun game. Yeah absolutely like I. Ah I was surprised how like into it picard was like he was still having this conversation but he was focused and like I I mean I expect that from Reicher no problem but like card was totally into it and like it was kind of like almost him letting loose and we got to see another little little little glimpse of another side of him when he's not you know sitting in the captain's chair all the time now. Can you imagine being a kid back then more or even like a teenager when the most advanced gaming system some you had the time was the Nintendo entertainment system. Not The super ness the ness. Yeah pretty sure that that neither sagging ordinance for out yet and and all all of a sudden you're in the middle of ARC annoyed or whatever whatever game take your whenever anxious title you want to throw out there hawk. That would have just been been awesome. So Yeah Yeah phaser age. Yeah so yes I love to take a visit to the phaser range of if no one has like as stupid and simple as it seemed and looked at to dust nowadays if no one has like recreated that with VR. Someone should. Oh yeah like. I'm I'm pretty sure trekkies would be all over that I would try it out so I mean you go to like a fan convention. You have that boots set up there. Yes yes five minutes in here he got. Let's go. Let's do it jerk. But yes as you mentioned I've loved rikers. Line that he he got got super excited about the opportunity and he wants to do it because no one's ever done before and like I mean that. Just kind of a pair of misers pretty much anybody who should be on the enterprise especially in command. Yeah it's like when there is something that no one has ever done before like you should the first in line jump all over that and I honestly I'd like I didn't necessarily see that coming like him to jump on it but the more I thought about is like. Yeah that actually makes a Lotta Sense. You should want to do that cool I act one. Wharf is briefing Reicher on some specifics of Klingon culture because apparently apparently warfare studied up on his own own culture specifically that one of his duties will be to assassinate the captain. If the captain appears week naturally Reicher second second officer would do the same for him may not seem like a good idea. But the KLINGONS thrive for centuries under the system strange system. It is a strange system but go ahead. I mean I get it. Yeah it's I I mean a little bit akin to a man I'm GonNa Blank on the name of it. Japanese the same camera thing code honor. Yeah there's there's a name for their honorable death except for them it's usually them killing themselves. but yeah like that's the closest thing I can think of but like I get where they're coming from. I get their reasoning for four. It don't necessarily agree with it but at least this one unlike some other of these cultural differences we've run across like I can at least Kind of grasp in my head where they're coming from at least right so and I mean I can see the ad I if everybody is on board with it because of the records thing was you know. Isn't that just going. Cause chaos but no not if everybody but he understands what's going on rights and I mean I mean the biggest based piece of that I guess is if you kill the captain then you become the captain so then we know no one's GonNa kill you for that because you just exerted that that Superiority right right. Yeah it's it's it's definitely interesting thing and certainly. I think this is the first piece that we'll get into. This is a cultural episode right. This is a let's go. Let's go see what happens. When Cultures Collide in cultures that seem to be diametrically opposed each other and again the world needs star Trek? Now more than ever we need to watch this episode any real quick. What did you make on the idea of warf gene? Pick up on this wharf saying he has studied up on his own culture. I it didn't really think much of it But now I mean now. You're making me wonder now. I want to know more worse backgrounds crowns. Yeah so are you gonNa tell his background. Yeah I am because I don't know when they first begin to explore this idea of worse background I I really don't I just again. This is that like I've seen everything so I totally interest in my head. It's not a big deal. It's not like a big spoiler thing. So basically here's is the always wharfs. Parents were killed and he was orphaned. He was actually a killed in an attack on kidder. That aim kept Yup The worst parents were killed in tackling. Kenmare he was actually adopted and raised by A set of Russians which is funny because remember the Klingons are those stand-ins uh-huh yes but they. They were raised on earth with some Russians. Okay okay that makes a lot more sense than when when he says that he was studying his right. So there's there's actually this this weird thing had actually. Oh that's why I wanted to tell you this now because as we go on and we continue you to encounter various Klingon Klingons and their culture. And you watch like WARF is like the most klingon clean on. You'll ever meet in your your life because he's not really cling is like tired B basically. He studied to be one rice so so he thinks this is how he needs act and his minimal interactions like. Oh we'll get into that later but yeah the minimal interactions they get with Klingons on a we get to see with Klingons up to this point. Really don't tell you much about what the Klingons actually are right right and you know as a kind of mentioned last week even in what we sort of come to know as Klingons from the original series It's been eighty years. Their culture has advanced shares the same. But it's different all all at the same time you know so I know that. This is the Klingons of the Berman era of of you know the the late twenty fourth century so anyway Hey Up on the bridge back to the story story for the bridge. Instant men don is checking stuff out looking over people's shoulders. Tell them all how to do. Their jobs better plans to tell the captain's about his astute observations. It's kind of like this guy. This is culture stuff that this is the other side of the exchange program. Now this guy. He's a little he's a little much isn't it Yeah Downington forward. Reicher is showing that he has an iron stomach. He is is handling the Klingon delicacies. All of which look is disgusting as they sound. There's PIPPI I'm not even say these right claw heart of targe and Gawk or serpent worms. Yeah have I I give rancor major props for doing this research ahead of time and like prepping himself I I. You know what he's going to encounter but man I know I like I. I'm glad he didn't stay as long. 'cause I I could not do that. I will. But it didn't make me think once again about the technology they have the fact that he could like he didn't have to have a Klingon chef onboard. The ship right. He just told you know told the ship. Hey make me this right and here we go right. I do get the sense reform fast forward right at the end like a waiter brings over more food and and like in my head like what's happening as Reicher Wenden said hey bartender or waiter guy. I need delicacies. I need I need whatever and maybe he actually had to like go. pull it up in the computer somewhere and race because somebody sauce to program. The computer shuts not already programmed into the computer. You have to do that so maybe he had to go like research like give me the recipe so that he could feed it into the computer so the computer could punch back out to him. Maybe like that's that's the only say for why he's coming over over with this new like Steve. I assumed it was just because there was so much of A. He wanted to try like Oh sure he's done three bay me Klingon menu all right now give me one of everything on and bring it out as soon as this ready to go and so they they were just consistently bringing him onto three or four dishes at a time like he's going to. He's going to eat two bites of each say Nine oh right. He looks like he's doing more than two bites of each but while some of them. Yeah Yeah Yeah obviously. There's a lot of differences between us in the KLINGONS but his doctor Pulaski puts it. Hey generally speaking whatever kills us also kills them card joins Islamic turns his nose up at the food as well but he relishes the great opportunity before Reicher even as more food arrives worth meets with Reicher in the hallway. Okay and handsome and emergency transponder. In case things go sideways. I'm sure we won't see that one again or it will be come a major major lot device. Yeah that that may happen once in a while on this show. There's this one little it's TV it is it I mean. TV or movie. No matter like this was essentially a James Bond Film and beginning you get your meeting with Q.. Here's all new gadgets. All of them before the end of the movie. So if we get you know ten minutes in the episode. Hey here's a new gadget Reicher I. It's it's not something he's going to use three episodes later right. It's GonNa be in this episode. I I like it. I've never thought to compare this episode James Bond Kudos for. Let's see here. The PA that that Klingon ship. We've been talking about rendezvous with the enterprise to pick up Reicher incident men don comments on their lack of hospitality. But don't worry he hasn't offended anyone even wharf at least not yet anyway. I like the escalating warfare. Goes through over the course of this episode with been done Although at the same time don notices something on his scans of the paw but it's inconclusive. So he chooses not to say anything to anybody. Is Dad kid like seriously they explain it and the next time they do they do. I get that but I'm sitting here in the middle and it's like you've been so talkative up to this point so wanting to tip prove how superior like go tell them you found this amazing thing that you know. None of them noticed right but he doesn't know what it is yet and he doesn't have a solution. which by the way I got to tell you just on a leadership principle one of the best leadership principles I ever learned was? Don't bring people problems. Bring them solutions. Don't come tell me what's wrong. Come tell me how to fix what's wrong you know but in this case you Kinda need to let people know doesn't really apply but I appreciate that comment I read. Yeah we can discuss that in a minute right as Reicher. Beams out Chief O'Brien wishes Reicher. Lock chief. O'Brien just wanted to mention. That's all I start recognizing. Yeah I like him. All right The enterprise going their separate ways but as he's leaving the bridge INSEN men. Don thinks this is a good time to bring up his observations to Captain Picard. The ever patient card doesn't scold him but just says hey. Let's follow the chain of command. Rather irritated warf Huffington Mendonca General Direction. Again I love the escalation of war. Love Warf absolutely on the PA. Reiger is being escorted to the captain by a lackey. Who's never seen a human before? Ever like surprise. Hey He's just an ordinary everage everyday the day human. who also is your commander? Now take me to the captain on the bridge. Reicher means new captain Carjon. The captain questions Reicher about his allegiances. They're on a peaceful mission but if they need to go into battle everyone on board will serve and die in battle. Reicher says he will serve the ship and follow the captain's orders and that is his oath however the second officer which Klag doesn't believe him he towers over Reicher and challenges him and in his first command decision. reiger goes all Jim Kirk Doc. On klag earns the respect of everyone on the bridge including that of the captain. Yes so first off. KLINGON ships are super darkness injury. Yeah don't watch a really bright day. The exact opposite of everything enterprise that we know it to me. It felt like like how at least nowadays maybe back then too. But how the decorate or you know lights old abandoned broken down space space vessels like this pretty much just no light a little bit of red light green light or something you know but just very dark and it's felt abandoned and I mean obviously yeah. They're moving around like. Oh Yeah. This is our ship is everyday were sally. I liked it. Okay Yeah Yeah and the you got the and it's but it's not just that like it's the there were there were pipes in the way and like nothing. Nothing thing was there is no way wasn't it wasn't clean clean. Cut Lines pipes tucked behind walls. Where they should be that type of thing? That's a good point and just kind of cobbled together a as needed. It's what it's what certainly what it seemed like but that is you know again. We're talking about cultural differences between the two You you know they're like a little more rough back on the enterprise warf informs the captain. Because this is what you're supposed to do. Hey something's wrong on the hall. Turns out it's a rare bacteria that is doubling in size sized every few minutes. This is the same thing that men don found on the Klingon ship a little bit earlier but he didn't tell anyone bad move on his part even if it's how things are done on bin Zaid ships. Yeah have you would think for how astute this kid has been that he would have realized that things are going to be different over here or or you would have done some research on how things are done on. The Enterprise is something to that effect. Where like I and this is what you were talking about? Before like he he he explains You know that's not how he does things but I it's I ah what was it his his regulation until he has a full analysis and resolution. And so okay like like you're saying from a leadership point of view I can see that. Don't and don't bring me problems bringing me solutions. I get that that doesn't apply to the situation but there's a problem you gotta tell me what's going on right away. This can be a little more life and death and it like part of the the the upside of being on a ship like this is is that you can kind of bring the problem to the community and hive mind crowd sources the solution right like the art options. Yeah obviously he's new to the ship. Really I guess. And how how he may know of card because everybody seems to know of the enterprise and they know that probably know that Picard is charge but the enterprise is the flagship of the fedaration. Yeah so they know of him but they don't know necessarily know how he operates and until you I mean I'm I'm sure probably didn't take too long to be there for a day or a week and you could probably run into one of these scenarios where he's asking for opinions but if you haven't seen that yet I get it you so you don't know that but if I'm new on a ship and like something like this happens I i the more I think both ways trying to figure out what I would do in his situation. Here's the thing okay. Have you ever lived in another country. No okay I I didn't think so I I live a while I didn't south three or four for a bunch of years back in my twenty S. Now I have to tell you just from my own personal experience. In my twenties uh-huh I did not research the history and cultural career. Before I went there I went there with all my southern American preconceptions and all these things but even still in my twenties. Here's what I knew enough not to go into work because I because I lived there for like three years so I didn't go into work and then like completely screw something up with my boss and they'd be like well. It's the way we do it in America and things of that excuse would fly. I never did that like it was. I knew that it was incumbent upon me to learn how they did things into fit into their culture and their regulations And so you know I it's a little presumptive on his part to go will know been insight would ever do this. I simply followed protocol. That's the line that gets yet symbolic article. No you didn't you yours. You didn't follow ours Jack Back. And that's what got me like. There was kind of an awkward pause after he said that and I second I thought like Picard was going to accept except that as an explanation or excuse and no that doesn't please please. Somebody say okay there. He said something. Thank you because it's like you were saying I I. I would hope I would kind of have that that mindset. If I'm you know foreign place I'm going to do things your way Eh. I will say I didn't go through that extra step of researching the head would have honestly sure sure but even without doing the research search and figuring out how they do things ahead of time just to kind of assuming that they might not assume that they do things differently but they might do. Do things differently. I should ask questions right or like a especially in a situation that you know. Has that much wait behind it. Oh sure yeah absolutely. And you're right this particular. This was a bad situation to Not Tell somebody what's going on so I get it. You know it this again. We're going back to you know differences in culture. But I mean you can't you you you've got to be better than that on this and I like how first of all I yes like how. Captain Picard responded. I really like how Patrick Stewart played this role on this episode of the he was annoyed and he was pissed but he he kept it in check. Yeah he he still kept his his role of captain. Like it didn't explode load on people and you know 'cause like that's that's one of the big things right you you don't like want people to be afraid to come to you with information mation for fear that you know you're just going to remain out is so it's like yeah you got a take that stuff in stride and if if something bad happens handle the situation first and then go about correcting behavior right right and you know and you tell us very perturbed by what was happening. But it's okay. Obviously you didn't know and like there was even one. I think it was earlier when he was trying to tell capture card about some of his observations. He's like you're you're off Reggie report but here we follow the chain of command so go talk to wharf and something about. Obviously we didn't cover this well enough in your indoctrination which is weird phrase to me orientation the first time they called it like orientational and indoctrination or something like that right. Yeah right afterwards. Yeah they kept using indoctrination. And I'm like that. Yes I I I would not use that term. It's got such a negative connotation to eight does twenty-first-century doesn't have a negative connotation anymore. Aby You know but anyway regardless of what you did wrong there been Zeitz. Let's find out what that thing is. And oh by the way he and worth they're going to have a little chat all right. It's mealtime on the pug. My favorite scene of the whole episode. Matt mealtime on the pocket seems that rikers prep for this mission has left him a little less than Hungary. There's more nasty sounding sounding food like brexit long and blood pie. And oh by the way blood wind makes an appearance here and it turns out that Gog is always best when served live in. Yeah something the cookbooks through the computers. Don't tell you did prior you for that one right. He living in Korea as a southern American. There are some foods over there that I just went but no I'm not no so Kudos to Reicher for sure and nothing against Korean food. I love Korean food but there are some that even I I in my own foreignness I just had to say no. Yeah I believe it. Yeah all right mealtime mill. Time is hazing time for Reicher but he holds his own own against all the Bandra back and forth and we're left to wonder exactly what her Klingon mating rituals like females is. One of them has more than interested. Yeah yeah got I mean honestly a little bit uncomfortable there but it did reicher handled very well. He did he did I. I I want to talk about this more but I want to keep this more family oriented jokes. I don't want to repeat absolutely that I one of like look. If you can't handle this. Maybe one of the women can Did you yes yes I the I I I did. Note the Klingons have a kind of dirty sense sense of humor. Do sure they do. That's that's and they're all laughing. They're all together and I. I love the one laugh. Like he throws his head back in his six miles. Wide Open so but yeah You know they get into like a little Reicher Kurna couple. The KLINGONS SORTA after the meal. I guess get into a a little heart to heart. Conversation there marveling at each other's sense of humor and how similar they are to each other but there's still awesome differences between the two of them for Klingons. Honorable Death happens in combat and it is the destination that every Klingon warrior once the die of old old age is dishonor and in fact. It's what separated Klag in his father. Did Yeah Reicher bond over this conversation. Yeah I it's it's. It's an interesting like this. This is just the beginning of kind of what Reicher begins to figure out and like he's at the beginning of this evening he's impressed with their It just generically abilities singlemindedness and it's like yeah I get that. But then like just going through the see saw I think his view of them kind of broadens. It's a bit and for all of us. It's like this is where I started. Thinks like what do we know we as viewers know of the Klingons and then and I mean honestly most of the people on the enterprise like you see them on the screen you see one. Maybe two of them on the view screen for like ten seconds at a time and usually discussing some battle-plan or lack of and it's like yeah. They're all in battle mode and and as we find out that happens quite often with Klingons but there is still another side to them. There is the you know the break room. The scene is break room. I wear but let's let's go a little bit and you can. Unwind see the lighter side of the Klingons and they have dreams and desires and they may not be dreams and desires that you and I would want but it's still their dreams and desires. Yeah and like I haven't made note like Klingons have feelings and emotions and then like two lines later. He's like yeah. Klingons have no feelings like you you do do but then he kind of explained a little bit too. It's like like we just picture them differently than you do. kind of we handle him differently. Were not necessarily proud of having them type of rate right. I like with the Klingons and I never picked up his name but he's like I have a mother mother. I have a father and I sort of looked like both of them just like like like you get this. They're sitting there and again. It's it's that back and forth between like. Wow Wow we're actually more similar than we are different like yeah. There are still differences. But we're actually still really similar now. This was the scene though Matt that When are we out of that? Do we talk about everything in there. yeah This was the scene that they kind of like this is the central scene of the episode. Like they wrote the scene and then just sort of everything else Kinda got written around it that make sense and the reason for that is because the the writers and the producers remember that Maurice Harley Guy Until you about. He was the show runner at the time The the basic idea was that they wanted to tackle the and this was the first chance they really had to tackle Michael something like they did in the original series earlier that they felt they did. They wanted to tackle the idea of culture and racial bias. And what is it like to be the only face like like yours in a room full of different people and and in specifically what they really wanted was for white people to get the idea of what it's like when they're the only one in a room full the people of Color and and that's you know take our guide and throw them over there. See what happens and this was this was really yeah. This is that central seen That that they did it in and and like I said they sort of had this scene and then everything else around it which is a building story from the middle out at work. I've heard of it doing from the the end to the beginning and then certainly four but I've never I mean and they really kind of May picked the right guy. I think to throw in the middle middle of this sure like I thought about it a little bit and like I. I don't know if you could've thrown anybody else from the bridge into rikers position in this this episode like I I don't think it would play out the same if the state as especially if they would've stayed true to character right like it just wouldn't work whereas I feel that we saw another side of Reicher of little bit. And what side was that Matt. I honestly kind of well now since his softer side but not at maybe maybe more sympathetic. Sure yeah that's weird 'cause like he he really buys into what this mission is all about and so he's not like easily offended and but he's he's he's also not quite as much especially in this scene like this is the way things need to be done. This is the way we do things like we like. We see him on the enterprise all the time right chance all right back on the enterprise they have determined these organisms. That are are feeding on the hull of the ship. Are eating away at the ship. And they're going to be feeding even more so on the Klingon ship because of the different alloys that the that make up the ship. Yep So it's time to go find the puck so they can let them know what's happening but it turns out the crew of the plug has already discovered the issue and it's bad like so bad that in eight hours. The ship chip is going to be lost. The crew begins to suspect that it actually came from the enterprise even noting the directed energy beam at that exact area. You know that one that men don was looking at unsteady. Reiger can't explain what was going on. So the Captain Orders Weapons Hot and they're GONNA go destroy the Enterprise Dunton gone so apparently you like we get to see the inner workings of the clans right and I don't know if we ever got to see this before in even in the original series series necessarily but honestly I think the closest we really got was in undiscovered country. The movie when we saw like kind of how the ambassador the the President Works get came over for dinner and different things like that about the closest. We've ever gotten. Yeah so I thought this was definitely interesting point of view but what we find out I feel is that declines are not diplomatic at all like they don't have diplomatic bone in their bodies like right that that's the way they've always been. That's the way they were raised the way they were taught. If I don't know if they have a clean on academy that they go through there's there's no diplomacy class in academy right Sparta Right. Yeah the ancient Sparta. But I mean we saw this earlier in this episode though Matt Right like when Glock wouldn't wouldn't Klag I like was challenging Reicher. The way earned. His respect was by beating them up. Sure right so throw plays I talk later I I get it but I mean. They don't even necessarily talk that much later. I guess they do little bit. Where once you kind of gain respect but like just the the fact that how they handled this particular situation It's like Reicher tries to explain as best he can because he doesn't have all the information so he can't fully really explore. Give them all the answers. They're looking for. I have a feeling that even if he gave them the exact answers what was going on. What was HAP- actually happening like? Once again the captain just be like Gee. I don't believe that or you're trying to trick me or something to that effect and say like like everything's just perceived as tackled. There's a whole ownership. Someone must be attacking us. That's the only answer answer. And that's and that's the crazy part because like just when you feel like you're you're starting to make headway with these guys all of a sudden it's like nope right back to square one. It's different people were talking with you know. And even Klag was like captain I don't think you really knew what was going on in did you becomes off. Yeah exactly and that's what I'm saying. It's a so like with the captain in charge. It's just hard to make any headway there. But I that's why once again I have to applaud. Reichert you're like he holds his own and and find solutions within their structure. And I mean this goes back to the whole thing that he wore for talking about at the at the top of the episode You know it's the first officer's duty to in this case assassinate The the captain often when they're not making good decisions and your second officer will do the same thing for you as we'll find out soon. Reicher chooses to not assassinate but does the next best thing. We'll get there in just a minute. Let's get back into the episode inside men Don on the enterprises feeling really. Sorry for himself. Down Wesley comes over and says hey no big deal thanks for your help Leslie but why are you being so nice. Unless he's like. Hey you could use a friend and they actually have a really. I think poignant conversation between the two of them. Yes Do you want to dive into that at all Matt a little bit. I once again. The scene Wesley being super logical about things being super friendly like I am seeing more and more of myself in Wesley really a little bit. Okay interesting I don't know I I don't know if it will stick around or you know things are going to change or whatnot but like I definitely see myself doing this with people. Basically basically trying to be kind explain things logically kind of talk them down a little bit and like I. I've gotten that reaction. It's like well that kind and make sense but I'm still weird out. Why are you being so nice La- and that they get stuck on that and and it's like I'm almost going to ignore everything else you said because the situation feels weird to me and so I kind of sit there and I'm like I've been in your shoes Wesley? I understand where you come from. How do you resolve this right by being nice right like yeah but yeah well like He? He's basically kind of trying to explain the difference between like this permanent failure that he meant on and has his head as opposed to just simple honest mistake You know this conversation reminds me of gap. Do you know the movie National Infants Christmas vacation. I they have seen it okay. After a court griswald like loses his mind goes on that epic curse Laden rant and and just goes goes crazy. He has a moment with his dad in the back room. And and you know he's just like Dad I am his dad's looks. I'm says you messed it up. You just messed it up. Listen you're a better father than that. Yeah like He. He doesn't sugar coat it and that's what Wesley Desert doesn't look. You messed up. You just did. But it doesn't. It doesn't mean that that's who you are. It doesn't mean that you are a mess up. Yes you messed up. It doesn't mean your mess up so get back out there. Dude you gotta do. And by the way that's the whole point of this program is so that we can learn from each other. Ah You know I. I think that's an easy conversation for people to sort of skip over because it's kind of a B plot type. Sure but I think this is i. It did Wesley do kind of same thing earlier too I want. I want to say like yeah. He had another conversation with him. No I bet you. I'm thinking of the other episode featuring Wesley and the Ben's eight other been cited by right yes which you guys can hear that on your baker the extra episodes anyway patron dot com slash? Here where are we in this episode. Listen over on the PUG. The captain is not trusting Reicher but Klag is not so sure the enterprise has changed coarseness falling the pogs. So ah-ha that's proof that they're up up to no good arm the torpedoes. And let's let the enterprise charge to her destruction Reicher in the captain stay nose-to-nose and they go back and forth. Reiger will fight and die with with this crew but he will not tell them any of the secrets about the enterprise. Apparently that was a test of his loyalty and the captain accepts him. He and I turn on its heels. Yeah Ah I I had this resolution all backwards such a weird bit of writing I got what will Because at first when when the second officer started talking some sense and he he was starting to get logical. I thought that was going to be the key to preventing just all out attack on the enterprise But yeah then we see this essentially this test that the captain in gives Reicher. And it's if you if you would've told me those secrets about the enterprise I would leave will do trader and killed you where you stood side. Oh okay repeated the right thing secrets and use against the yeah. Yeah absolutely. It's I don't think I could have written seen as well as they did. Really because I find it a very awkward scene I find the turn very very like it's not as smooth as I is. I really want it to be like. It's so like I think it just takes me by surprise. Yeah because because this is the first first time we kind of see any sort of compassion or understanding from the captain. I it's always kind of been my way or the highway. which is usually you know? We're just going to attack them. You know I I do not accept your answers. No matter how logical they they may seem so. Let me ask you this just because then that means that the captain says hey arm the torpedoes we're gonNA go attack them. Does that really mean that he's going to go attack them like or is that. Is that a hands down. This is what we're GONNA do. You know like is that apart. We'll know like I'm just asking so if if we watch this conversation that he has with Reicher of if you're really loyal to to this ship you'll tell me the secrets of the enterprise. And the best way to defeat her and rikers since toe to toe with them and says look. I'm going to serve you and if this comes the to battle I will die with you but I'm not giving up the secrets of the enterprise. Now then he turns around and says that was a test very good. You passed if you told me those secrets. I would label you a traitor and killed you on the spot but now I know you will serve with me like like. It's so like like turn on the spot for him to sit there and go are the torpedoes. Let's get ready to fire. Maybe that's is not actually what he's looking to do. I mean it could be a problem I I think it was. I wonder if I mean you could argue. I think very easily that the captain didn't necessarily know he was issuing a test for Reicher Ankur but he finally heard an answer he liked to change his mind. Okay and it's like you know I was what's GonNa have you just blow everything up but you've came to my mind a little bit But he said it in his own little Klingon Way yes fair enough. I'll go with you on that. I'll go with you on that Men Min Don is finally isolated the organism and has come up with a solution to help both ships. The Enterprise sends out the signal with the answer to that but captain car gone doesn't believe them so prepared parents who attack more dunton. Now we've had a lot of data in the first officers tearing this episode. I don't have talked about that yet. did you did you remember or did you understand. Data is the second second officer of the Enterprise. Yeah I I've kind of noticed the number to captain the captain of the enterprise can give the British who whoever he wants really but I was kind of just assumed that it's the chain of command that they've talked about a few times. And so yeah like I mean I've I've said a few times already. I always cutting to consider data to be spock and so it doesn't surprise me when when he's in charge except he's not a he's an android I guess but it's also saying hey computer take over the ship right. Would you really say hey computer nobody else here. There's no other living being here. That can trust the ship to so you take over really there there. There's no one that has more information than you. Well that would be true. Even with Picart Andrea Sherr combat. So you know. I'M NOT GONNA go with that that one you know it. It's it's one of those we're gonNA deal with this. Actually we're going to deal with this very issue Very soon as it were but anyway I just just a reminder in case we've forgotten data actually is the second in command of actually third. He's the second an officer of the ship. Hard Reicher data. We'll get that structure over on the client. That's really evidence here exactly exactly but we see like I. I like. We've seen data in the captain's chair in in command of the bridge a bit on this episode we've seen him in rikers normal chair. We've seen him commanding the crew and even talking down to mend on when he needed to like It's just wanted wanted to mention that for. We got out of this episode but he tells listen here that a lack of debris says that the POB must still be around there just cloaked. It's almost time to fire. And reichert tells them wait for forty thousand kilometers wonders. Why it'll cut down their response time? Oh by the way. He publicly is questioning the captain's judgment you are not with it sir. He reaches into his boot and pulls out the transponder that warf gave him. Hey nothing's coming back. He activates sorry he activates it and hands it to the captain the signals received by the enterprise. And wouldn't you know it. They have to be at least forty forty thousand kilometers away in order to transport him out. Yeah who when he said forty thousand like there has to be another the reason. I don't know what that reason is but it it's not just to help out the klingons wait sixty seconds. You'll find out. Yes yeah so just as the pogs about ready to fire the inner bras beams Reicher captain car gone out over directly to the bridge. Clar gone is taken out with a single phaser shot from wharf and Reicher is now the captain of the Pug clothing shields off the order and if they fire Reicher says he'll die with foam up here is on the view screen. All weapons are armed answers the Hale and commands the enterprise to surrender Matt. What are you ganging in this moment? Say get this does just in the twenty four. Th Century to surrender means something different completely than it does now. We talked about this before with the enterprise surprised how how someone surrendered ship and Mike to me. That means you just handed this entire this flagship of your army. I'm over to the enemy and said hey come aboard take our ship take it back to your home planet. That never happens right so I'm starting to wonder what does surrender render me. I I mean like I guess it's kind of waving the white flag type of thing you know we give up But it to me to me surrender includes a bit of not. Just were backing off. We're not fighting anymore. It's hey you win you get all our stuff right and so I don't I it bothers me every time they do it right and I I I just I don't quite understand it but I guess it's one of those things I might just have to get used to because it seems like they keep doing it right. It's yeah I I don't know how many many more times they do it. But you're you're definitely right however as we know this was this. Was I think a again. This was reiger. Playing the part of a Klingon. Yes you know. He has learned the system in in order to get everybody to. It's that lake when you have two. Dogs and their teeth bared each other or to animals in their horns. These are blazing like the first one to like lower their head like they lose a causes. The other one to sort of back off as well like you. Just somebody's gotta gotTa that'd be the first to to lower their weapons and the Klingons can't be the first that's a sign of weakness for them right so surrender. Okay fine now we can. We can talk Like I said of the TAB. Yeah Reicher makes a very good klingon great klingon Great Klingon Picard complies in offers to start repairs on on Ronda on the Klingon ship is in Oregon back over to the dog and he orders everyone back to their station. But reicher stands in defiance winds up taking a backhand from Clark on get him off. My ship turns out. He didn't duck on purpose. Apparently Matt Reicher makes pretty good cling on your understands klingons better than anyone thought. Yeah warf comes from a brave and unique people. Oh he says we're glad to have him on the enterprise now we roll credits there. It is a matter of honor is yes yes so Here we are at the end and we've talked about the episode Matt. I'll give you a chance. Any final thoughts on this episode. I'm pretty good Klingons. I mean they're interesting race but I. Ah I'm telling you I'm interested Wesley. You're interested in West. It's interesting that you gravitate towards that. So did you like this episode. Is this one. You think you'd WANNA and watch again. It definitely kept my attention the first time through. I'm trying to think like it might be one of those though. Oh that like knowing the resolution in how things go Might not hold my attention to the second time through. Okay Okay I for me. This is is one of those. Like if if I'm doing like a like a rewatch of the whole series. I don't mind this episode sheriff if I'm flipping through the channels in next generations on BBC I'll stop open watch this like while I'm doing housework and just sort of have it on the background If I'm looking like for all my if I'm making list of my favorite episodes of Star Trek this one's probably not on that particular list but when we started talking about you know understanding the greater world of Star Trek and what Ron Carey is trying to build and and the people star Trek in general and trying to build. I mean this is. This is a great episode to learn culture. Definitely so you understand why chose episode. Then guess there there. You go all right Matt. Well that's going to bring us to the end of our episode here at Star Trek podcast our next episode. You're ready for it. Get to it. We are going to the very next episode on on the list. The measure of a man Now this episode man I will tell you when they released the BLU rays for next generation a couple years ago when they released each season you know that that fathom events thing that happens at the movies where they do like a special thing sometimes usually like they're playing some opera or some concert or something like that. You don't go to the movies as a whole lot. You might not know what I'm talking about. No Okay so they like in celebration of the DVD releases. What they did was they had? They had an event at movie theaters across Austin country. Okay and what they do is they would actually show two episodes in high DEF BLU ray whatever They would show two episodes from next generation so so it turned into a movie feature length and it was a special ticket event. And there's usually some sort of Some sort of celebration or something to go along with it. The next episode were watching. The measure of man was one of the two episodes that they did for the event when they released season two. So it's it I just just say that just say it's one of the bigger bigger episodes of season two and I'm I'm very very curious because the the territory this one goes into as is super interesting so A even touched on it a little bit today so so there's obviously. Is that the next episode. There are there is no extra viewing That I'm going to give you for this week. with that Matt and I don't know if you have anything else that you want to get into. Why don't you go ahead and tell the folks out there where they can find you on the Internet? You can always find really personally on twitter at as a matter of Matt. And if you guys want to get in touch with me you can find me at Brent Allen live across all the social social medias and if you WANNA contact the show as we've mentioned a few times today just head over to be me up pod dot com all of our show. 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"On One oh, one reasons film DOT Com. Live video of our key New Hampshire Bay shows screamed on D. Live please follow share a D- live dot L. Dot FM that's D. Live Dot L. R. N. DOT FM. All right. Welcome back. Welcome back everyone. I welcome back everyone this is questioning authority alive here and yeah actually able to take calls for one, six, zero, three, two, eight, three, six, six, year, discord dot. Dot? FM. Actually am working on getting the new computers. So I could be able to stream into everything and you know not have to meet my fucking audio every five minutes because of his signal that comes from. God knows where But Yeah I'M GONNA continue talking about this and so I actually I was corrected by by Minister Freeman here nobody's a campaign manager in denial. Apparently, he didn't get as much media attention as he ever wise did during the. During the the mayoral campaign but I gotta say I mean if he ran just as rich Paul instead of as as of nobody than I, think he would have gotten like a like a fraction of a coverage. anyways. So we're talking about here this via sentinels. Little biography of Sununu here. So I, talking about the krona hoax since March, has issued dozens of emergency orders related to the pandemic, the most impactful being a stay at home or. Order. Those never I don't think it's been proven in court. If that was if it was an order a suggestion and went into effect March twenty seventh and required non essential businesses to suspend in person services, it has been since modified. To allow most to resume with restrictions through the governor's Office for Emergency Relief and recovery soon has expanded portions of one point two, five, billion dollars allocated to New Hampshire via the federal cares act using the money to help small businesses pay stipends to frontline workers. Fight Homelessness and addiction among among other things. Okay. So where does the rest of money go? That's what you know. Maybe that all that stuff that's chicken feed, but they give to the public to make them think that the money is being spent but I mean really one point two, billion dollars. I. Mean has there been any sort of difference in your. You know for people living in New Hampshire and every state actually probably most states more money than New Hampshire forbids has any of his money benefited you at any way. They say, Oh, they give they pay stipends to frontline workers. They pay. Extra money for doing their job which they should be doing anyway but the government for. Whatever reason decided is more more important than others and it's like these fucking doctors and nurses makes me so sick every time I drive by someplace or walk by someplace, and I see these signs, it's like Oh. Thank you or doctors and nurses. Oh you're such heroes when heroes yeah. Maybe Tiktok Heroes Right them you giving fair was. Faulty tests that almost always give a false positive them. Putting Down Gunshot Depths and hit and run depths do right down Cova because they they tested the corpse or whatever stupid shit dirt doing. They put people on ventilators even though they don't need to be on ventilators because the government gives some extra money to put people on ventilators. It's a gigantic racket and I mean I if people found out the truth about all of this and version investigation into these fucking doctors and quacks in the state and not just to say you obviously the whole country starting without she and moving all the way down to you know the Dartmouth Mafia levels of things and say, okay what do you know? When did you know how long did you know this was a hoax and I mean I think a lot of doctors and People who after an investigation, of course, people who are in on invest radio putting fake death numbers of I think they need to be investigated and prosecuted because most people are the reason why there's increased number of suicides child molestations. Domestic violence. Depression everything that'd be the due to this lockdown. Based off of a hoax and it's not John Offers I probably going to be no justice right pouches probably gonNA retire and die fat and happy. But if there is any sort of moved to justice because I mean I and I hope for is when when all these people who bought into it and were yelling at people to put on masks and we're wearing the dog cones right to stay safe I want all of you know bought one day stop and realize like, Shit. I lost my job I lost all my unemployment benefits because they ran out no places hiring or places hiring me as in them. And I still don't know one single person even got to Corona Virus Gee maybe I was fooled but no, it's not going to happen. Those people are going to be the ones who is like the emperor's new clothes are just going to bury her head in the sand because it's embarrassing to be proven that you're wrong and especially, if it led to the deaths in, you know of it via, you know ruining a foul millions of lives. For not going to admit but to wrong for most people just be as most people in this country unfortunately aren't. Don't have that level of emotional maturity. What they're GONNA do is they're going to go even deeper into the call these people it's like the same mentality where if someone is clearly getting scammed by a Nigerian e mail or fax machines can. Scam instead of just stop giving money, we're GONNA give even more money because you know they're they they just can't admit that Virago say, oh no, just look you're you're jealous of all the money I'm GonNa make I'm just going to wire guy never ten thousand dollars Prince Habuba was gonna you know he just needs money to reopen his account and he's going to send me five million and make me a duke. And it's like how these people except for not even having the benefit of ver not even being promised any sort of money or anything they're just being prompt or not promise virgin CEO. Hey. If you follow along with all of its, you're not going to die and so I think these people instead of turning against the people who tricked him in the first place if we're going to go after the people who are telling the truth right for since the beginning vishal mask thing is anti science and sexually. and You I. Believe. I wearing a mask is actually bad for your immune system also because you know beyond the whole carbon like people site, the people breathing in Brown carbon. I don't know if that's you know that's issued by the issue I see is having essentially bacteria culture I strapped to your face because bacteria like spiders, the like warm moist areas, it helps them. Multiply. That's why you have like some doctors. Right? You know these medical professionals in before corona hoax who wear masks all the time they get staph infections under face just because you know you have this piece of fabric that sticking to it. Okay, all right I just saw hammered on van tire segment is good to be back. Okay. So yeah the talks about new redistributing wealth. Soon has been an outspoken opponent of implementing state income tax. All right. Well, you know he's not. Okay, you know a broken clock you know in July, he vetoed a bill that would have done. So which was sent to his desk by the Democrat controlled state legislature and you know. And why didn't this is why the krona hoax is primarily a Democrat invention because I mean I I certainly didn't hear about that. I know if anyone else you listening heard events. The legislature tried to pass a state income tax. Free about krona hoax and stuff during July. So that's I. I didn't even know that right you know you learn something new everyday. Governor also recently vetoed a bill that would have allowed court orders to temporarily block someone from possessing a firearm if they pose an immediate risk of themselves or others commonly known as a Red Flag Law. And another would have provided coverage for emergency elective abortion. So yeah. Okay. Are Bad explained. This is why the boomers. Which is pretty much v the main demographic of the Republican Party New Hampshire's boomers display unfortunately. So of course, they're gonNA keep voting for him I mean I was at trump's rally. 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If elected I will pardon every victimless crime in New Hampshire history. This includes drug gambling prostitution gun and driving offenses. Nobody should have a criminal record when they have not harmed anybody. Wouldn't it be nice to have nobody telling you what to do learn more at elect nobody dot com elect nobody dot com. You're listening to the best oriented audio streamed around the clock on the air and online. This is the liberty. Radio. Network at L. R. DOT FM. All right. Welcome back everyone to push the authority. In the. Studio. This time I'M GONNA I'm sick of already reporting on I gotTa Finish it Oh yeah you know. I. I do sound different tonight just because Allergies have been the worst got I gotta say this has been the worst of my life. He's Allergies A. Psych. I was on I was on no by I a opened up for nobody last night on nobody tells the truth and you know, I, was I was feeling fine. It was a beautiful evening out a little bit chilly but you know I borrowed a jacket. And I go to I to Address market meet up today right whose time had fun if everyone. And it was on a little you know low homestead farm I. Feed the pigs, I pet, the pigs people brought their dogs fair. I play with the dogs I pet vidar someone had their pet hedgehog there and I. why I touched the Hedgehog and freaked out and stabbed my fingers. So Mike Okay. All right. The hedgehog does not like being touched. And so. I come back early to start do preparing for the show and just relax and my God I, Start I, start sneezing and I just start my eyes start to burn and my God my patches on my face and ear start to switch just it was just terrible. My eyes are watering. My eyes were burning and You know I just had to blow my nose every like five minutes and I, look online typing. I type in Keene al-ajiz, and usually when I used to do of pollen counts and ragweed counts it used to usually if I was having a bad allergy day, it would say it's low and my gosh it. If this is low, I'd hate to see high well today it was medium and my God I am terrified to see what what high pollen ragweed count does Oh my God. So yeah, that's why I sound different and to be reaching for a tissue and looks like I'm just GonNa pass out because allergy suck and I and I do believe that a lot of vis vis upsurge in all ages is due to You guessed it vaccines and I think it's like it by giving. Like. Twenty vaccines to babies like a few days after born big babies like tetanus and hepatitis shots and it's like, why would you wanNA give a baby hepatitis shot? You know like, well, what do you plan on doing fat baby? If he was Tom Hanks or something asking for it, I'd understand but. and. So what these things because a lot of verse byproducts natural byproducts, vaccines, ride, neum, shit whatever they they used to make it. It causes sometimes, it causes an. Immune reaction in the baby and so that's where I think a lot of peanut take peanut allergies right? Some portion of the peanut plant is used in the vaccine and because of you know the reaction of body then associates peanuts with an invader and that's why. Kids have. Peanut allergies and I think the same thing with history means as to why I'm so like violently allergic to history means. So speaking of speaking of viruses talking about the government. and. So news allegedly guy just because he's vetoing stuff at any good governor who gives a shit about freedom would veto. So. Yeah. Giving money. So Karen Testament here you go. Native of Denver. Spent her youth in California and has lived in new. Hampshire since her husband retired from the military and ninety three. She said she was first and foremost a domestic engineer or. Engineer and also worked as a long term substitute teacher. Testament now serves as a city councillor in Franklin where she's lived in since who has four elected governor she said, one of her first priorities would would be to overturn all the emergency issues. Of. Emergency orders issued by Sununu, not to say that sue a lot of issues probably. Since the start of covid nineteen pandemic since she said, they have ruined the state's economy. That's true for talking about years until it recover recovers. Citing the double digit unemployment rates estate experience at the height of a pandemic and you know be unfortunate thing is. Even. Before the corona hoax, there were very people in the government city councillor select boards. They always talk of a write go. How do we get people to stay in the state? How do we get more people to stay in the state and it's like? I have an idea you know leaving them of a fuck alone because. A lot of their suggestions is to become more like Massachusetts more Vermont, and when really that's GonNa turn away a lot of people because that's who they turn away a lot of quality people because that's you know it's pretty much. The only. I'd say like objective. upsides of moving and living in New Hampshire is in theory you shouldn't have to deal with as many people from I reviewed the government or private sector of a new. You would. If you lived in the city, unfortunately, it's the city people who are bringing their voting practices with them and fucking up this beautiful state. Okay. So how in constitutional it is she supports free market. So that's good. That's a good alternative. Here we go. Nobody after legally changing his name last year mckean man formerly known as rich. Paul announced a run for governor following a failed campaign for Keane. Mayor. In two thousand, nineteen. Nobody who could not be reached for comments? Okay. So We're curious about the. Has. Described himself as a libertarian who is running as a Republican because he believes that's his best chance to win. His website says asked why he was running nobody stated at Vera a lot of things done by government that nobody should do and fees elected nobody will do them. So it's interesting here what they do with capital say capitalizing nobody. In, a June fourth video posted on a website nobody said governments exist to defend the Inalienable Rights Laid Out Declaration of Independence? Okay. So nobody admits he believes in the state. The only justified thing for government to do is to protect our rights and instead of protecting our rights government has become a chief violator of our rights he said. In the same video nobody spoke about the cove nineteen crisis and the governor stay at home. Order. He said he would like Ryan staters for own determinations as to how much risk they're willing to assume nobody spoke at a recent rally and Keane Central Square to protest the city's requirement mask be worn in businesses and outdoor spaces were business is conducted, which I went to number video. Nobody said, one of his first moves if elected would be pardoned everyone convicted of victimless crimes in New Hampshire's history including people arrested for possessing a firearm provided they hadn't used that firearm against someone. So victimless crime. Every single gun laws unconstitutional by the Federal Constitution and dot state constitution he said. All right. So I don't. Know a person who writes some of these but I should person. Six zero three, two, eight, three, sixty, one, sixty or score dot DOT FM so now. This, is a topic. So dear to me here. So now this is the this is from I'm just covering local news would have been. More than a dozen keene state residents, residents life staff resigned amid reopening, and so now or you know res- lie there the VR as people who? You know make our make our lives miserable on campus or we're trying to live. And enjoy people who call the police if you have weed. In a lot of them behave very entitled. But the thing is in order to be an RA. You could live on campus for free. It's about why many do it and I? It's a great way to save money too I. Mean I think it's like a room and board are paid force. All they have to do is Pay For tuition and some other stuff. So I mean, if you know if it fits your personality type to be an RA. And you're willing to go to you know go from a bullshit hoops and stuff if you're going to college and yeah, being an Ra. Is Worth it if it's like you're looking at a primarily costing. So a dozen keene say college residents staff members have resigned in the first two weeks. I two weeks it's not even. Not even bad I mean it's like they've been here longer but I think like classes and stuff officially started the thirty first. So it's been just one week. Fourteen residents life employees free professional staff members five head. Five head, resident life, resident assistance, and six of our as. Have left positions college spokesman, Kelly Ricard's so she's a chief propaganda stemmed. Spin are set Friday eight employees employs a total of fifty seven. Ra's. So that's the huge proportion, but we're gonNA continue into this. Oh No. What are you going to call it? What is your college like? Is it even reopening in person six Oh, three to eight, three, six, hundred, sixty or just don L. R. A. DOT FM loved to find out with me right BITCOIN DOT COM has launched trading platform at local BITCOIN DOT COM allowing you to buy or sell bitcoin cash via dozens of payment methods like pay pal then Mo bank deposit remittances, or meeting. In person with cash there are no idea requirements to sign up for and use the site and all communications between buyers and sellers are encrypted finally, Global Trading Platform that respects your privacy. 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More than a dozen Ra's out of Sierra's total fifty-seven. Have decided to resign within the first two weeks Ryan. So now by Juba and I'M GONNA go into it maybe it's not corona virus related but maybe it's as I mean it it is a shitty place to work trust me I mean I remember my dorm I lived in the to rowdiest shittiest asked dorms. On campus for my first two years I was there and like. Every night people were just see a ripping off posters puking all over the bathroom. Some asshole had like a tool kit. And removed every single screw nut and bolt in the bathroom. So like you know you'd you'd like pull the door to open the stall on the Nollie with the stall door fall. But like you know you still be holding a handle in your hand and Shit and we got charged for all of it to like they would charge. They would charge the the building for whatever happened. So like if I if I get drunk and Puke on the floor, even in the bathroom, that's fifty bucks charge in divided by one hundred and fifty people who live there. So it came out to be a lot like he can't came out to be like. God was like almost fifty bucks or something just. So that's an individual's multiply that by one hundred fifteen so much fucking damage may charge, but they would charge like real stupid things I if you if someone off poster poster of at cost what two cents of paper and one penny worth of Masking tape they charge ten bucks right? Excuse me so. It's a shitty place to work but mind you now. So vs our students, right? Like very you know very professional adults review our students and now this is a virus that kills woes it last night you check people who actually got it. It was like, what? Like six point six percent Of people die from I. Mean it's It's. As I like to say because it's so true something that kills less than two percent of a population and Not only do we have to shut down everything but even these people they can't even function to. The college has already filled in one of a professional roles residents director. So VR de it's. Usually, a an adult and as candidates for the other openings, which ecology expects to fill within the next two weeks recarte's at it. So it's a whole other weeks of training and shit they need. Keen status valuating the position previously held by one of the people who resign assistant director for residential education. So interview in Ra who's not resigned. But. said his peers who have left their roles did so because they are not comfortable with the colleges reopening plan. Obviously. There's no perfect plan for everything Dawson public. Square a public health major said in a phone interview Wednesday phone re there's going to be issues with everything no opening would've caused issues. But, I also think the plan wasn't solid enough nerve too many holes in the plant. Yeah. Yeah. There's too many holes in a plan that requires you to wear a mask. Like pretty much everywhere on campus except your dorm. So you know you. And your dorm room not like your your your dorm, the building, just the room. So like if you WANNA, go to visit your next next door neighbor you have to wear a mask. I mean it's so so that's the but that's full of holes according to these neurotic people. Specifically. Dawson said he wished for college would have delayed reopening. To give residential life staff members more time to voice their concerns to school leaders. fucking summer although it did take them a while to come up with the of a plant. So give them that we got what's going on and Capri pray Freeman. Drop out of college and get your ged fan nuts too late I can't. Although. I hear like some people like suggesting the kids who are like fourteen or you know whatever the age of getting emancipated is to just study up for about one test and they don't have to do rest of High School I. Wish I knew about that when I was is my God all the time I mean, you know college is a huge waste of time to I've I've discovered but e high school is even worse I mean it's like high school is when you're supposed to like. Like developmental wise. Before we you know before we entered clown world was when you're supposed to do all the shit your they say you're supposed to in college you'll learn a trade get started are making money but because we have high school and we have public funded, Babysitter Service E. The public. School system. It just it. It's basically just like managing young people. It's like a prison to make sure they don't cause any trouble at the government doesn't want. But that's being you know when it's something, some causes of government likes right like this whole Greta Fund Berg climate hoax shed events. Schools are fine. Letting kids get out. Be Truant and not go to class that as long as it's for their cult ritual. Okay. So, Dawson who is in the third years in Ra is currently in quarantine. Hallway Yeah Sixty percent of college is thirty, two, hundred students live in one of keen's eleven on campus residence halls. That's bad when I was here it to be like four to five thousand. Now that is thirty, two, hundred man Vancouver College is going to be fucking hemorrhaging money and actually have some show prep talking about that in the future. Okay. So He's in his third year as an RA, as in quarantine after he came into contact last week of student who tested positive for Covid, nineteen and said, he plans to use remainder of his quarantine which is scheduled to run through September tenth. To determine if he'll return to his role as an Ra buddy, you better come up with where you're GONNA get your fucking money because you're a you're you've a gravy trains going to run out when I when I come back to campus I like to see what their updated plan is if anything has changed. Dawson said boy boys one of these fucking. Articles a day interviewed like one person and it's like half. And Mind You I've read before on air the reopening plants and it's just totally draconian. It's I don't know why anyone. Would want to go. Would want to go to college. When things are all fucked up like this? Meantime. School leaders have been meeting regularly with residential life staff members including as to listen to their concerns and to work to address from Keane say present Melinda Treadwell said. Just just thinking about it. This is the thing. This is a disease at target old people and people with Co. Morbidity he's. Right not healthy. College people and the only reason. I. Even with air quotes I say healthy is because you know at that age the bodies able to bounce back from stuff compared to. When Geezer and your body's pretty much well, well, well spent. Yeah it's. Ver- worrying about and just imagine this is going to this whole thing is going to raise a whole generation of hypochondriacs. What I've committed to in what we've been doing the last two weeks is were meeting with them. We're taking action Treadwell said in a phone interview Friday in that been really proud of both Var as for raising their voices. It's translation find out who they are. And you know were on to you that's used. And Staff and faculty here who've been part of a meetings and long discussions with them specifically taking action. To help them see that. When they raise concerns, we addressed them unless you're white treadwell added V resignations from residential life staff created a fluid situation in the early days, and now I think it stabilized. I care about them feeling that for being heard. And Vase Action in response to concerns or questions that they raise turtle set of a lifestyle and I'm proud. That were doing that now I wish we'd been able to do it sooner for them because we may have been able to avoid some of a loss of people in those positions. Overall Trudeau she believes sates reopening plan is working remarkably well, thus far VISCO on Friday completed its first round of mandatory. Campus, testing for all students faculty and staff members. Negative covid nineteen test results were require before any students faculty or staff members. Were allowed on campus. Total of seven students but no faculty or staff members tested positive during their pre arrival screening. According to keen say Cova Nineteen Dashboard. So wow. Geez reclaiming. Total testing results today to their claiming that they have ninety nine point eight, five percent negative results. So Gee, what happened to this virus being so violins, right Seats how? Can, say, will receive a result of his first round of campus testing within the next two days or so true added v College will conduct another round of mass tests, mass testing, next Thursday, and Friday at be spalding recreation center my God like I. I used to get my parents a lot of grief because they didn't support the idea of me how taking a gap year between high, school and College I do recommend it because I taking a gap year it helps you figure out what you WanNa do before committing to a major and it also teaches about life and it also gives you you know pocket change to write. Is You ideally you'd be working. During you'll maybe you'd find out but you don't even want to go to college. So we'll talk about that. You also colleges in the US are hemorrhaging money, which in my opinion is a good thing cover that much. Forty. On free. 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It's like the ultimate like shitty representation of people of my generation or millennials or whatever your Z. or whatever you WANNA call it. And like she's like self deprecating. So yeah, I mean I anyway. So She got notoriety on twitter because right around the beginning of a lockdown she tweeted out she said. Tall the women locked down if your boyfriend's now is the perfect time to bring up that thing that you always avoid and like I think it was like Steph, Amal New and I always. Like blue check marks and big name. Sorry in her in her reply saying like this is why so many women are single or I Y men don't trust women and stuff, and this is going to lead to domestic violence and murders and hose. Funny. So. Going to continue here, talking about ESPN millennials and the worst my generation has to offer. I'm GonNa Continue Talking about the college here. So for as you just joining us the Ra residential assistance, they're quitting a lot of quitting jobs because. The was I. Guess Away I'll describe it as the lockdown guidelines at the college following. Is Enforcing. Aren't strict enough. Okay. So yours testing, it looks like pretty much every week or every two weeks mandatory on tests on campus testing. This will allow us after two times of medical supervision will be self swabbing for a weekly sample survey for every member of a community Treadwell's Z. yet to submit to medical tyranny every week. After taking her and you know and that's the thing. Right? It starts with like decades ago cops taking blood samples. When they stop you for. When they stop you for. Whatever reason I actually have any of you know inva- chat have any of you ever been stopped. And demanded a blood sample by police those things you hear about Bud Leo thankfully, it hasn't happened to me yet. You what's going on to liberty t girl fourteen, Eighty, eight. Alway I always appreciate the D. Live funny names on live. So. This week, it's a Green Bay. Oh Yeah. That's right. Yeah. You have armbands now. So you have to wear a wristband. So sort of like a either like a hospital or like a rave or some sort of event Vee Vee, the amusement park right you have to wear a wristband like not museum park and you know it's like they're talking about having yellow stickers, right? Bright Yellow Star shaped stickers for people who haven't gotten vaccined. Here ago. The loss of my place, and if you don't have a green band, you cannot enter interior spaces of the campus including buildings and classrooms. So pretty much you can't. Yeah unless you get tested, you can't do anything. On campus. Okay. So I haven't done this in a while, but we're going to go to the phone lines here. Welcome what's on your mind Allow. Quick Dick. Laugh. Live last week. WAS James? You've been out of the loop question is good. Question where you live. We live last week no no I was on. Okay, 'cause It's fascinating when I Heard you say you hate I despise or apostasy. So do I that's why I despise. US in the Falkland Luther You're sitting in that studio with I. Just shows that are still not looking at the video ian is upstairs doing like I. Think he's on his nine hundred push up. What's is supposed to be funny. Anyway does I fucking hate hypocrites? Couldn't wait until some of the people you hang out with the. Answer to our creator for being such for their entire lives. but You keep on calling this thing. Over nineteen like it or not what our government is done about it. You keep on calling folks where'd you get that from Alex Jones? Well No. Actually Jones was sort of buying into the whole hoax. Okay. was evacuated when he still allowed Mike Adams of natural news on on his show was saying ally Corona virus was going to kill ten million people. Then Jones did a one eighty on that and kicked. You Major Meiomi Mike Adams this does mysteriously not allowed on inforwars again I'm. James. Actually pay attention to the show you could. BE A. Stop paying attention if you actually paid attention to the show, which is what I'm not doing right now. You would know that essentially on I came up with on free talk live to I. Didn't want it to talk too much about the corona hoax on. Qa, when I was so hosting free talk live in. April and early May know late May Azzurra April in late. May. We went over the numbers we went over the science and I think we've even been vindicated right now too because relievers like these numbers came out but like the number of people who died from Jessica. Corona, virus is like statistically negligible I mean I haven't like I've just seen the headlines Ivan looked at the science and the paper myself. But it goes with everything that I've been saying that we've been saying you and I both for the past several for the whole duration of this thing. So it is. It feels so good to be vindicated right now James. So. Thank you, remind. Are you enjoying just talking when I asked You a simple question and you didn't answer the question. If. you haven't been vindicated at all absolutely not catered. Yeah. died from his fucking thing I don't know anyone who's. Shaven has always Okay sure. You've had lots of calling me names makes you James. Dude. What I call you, it's not a name. If literally labeled that fits you are shit. Literally Lesser. Synonyms for lay many. Of what you just said Let. Okay, why do you think I'm called now freezing sellers the very first time I called the discord APP and the very first I ever on Free Talk Live via the scored up his shifts literally should be shot in the head of Sony published dumpster called me that and it's not funny. For Him Sir. No I'm not talking about eating I'm talking about Mark Shuki statutes sin being not even more mark got even clever enough in. It's not clever enough to come up with a nickname like that in different ways than suffer terribly for the things you said of me on the Public Airways. Joke about nondescript. I'm going to your friend if he doesn't publicly apologizing profusely and and. Amy. How are you going to hurt on and? I believe you. But I WANT WANNA go back to. What you heard he and? Hurt My Fist I'll use my fists and I'll beat him so I'm mercifully and none of his friends like you won't care that he's in an assisted living. Center you know. Whatever realize he would realize that Vincent and all his little acolyte. Some sycophant Arkansas. He's a total piece of just like you but. He's in. A, job out this thing once I get enough decent video footage I'll put down the camera and healthy and if. I assure you. Stay out of this your special welcome loser it's funny but I want to get back to this folks things that you believe is because you hang out with people like and Freeman, and you'll pine about science and medicine. When you don't know anything about either one of those things you're a fucking communications fucking. Anyone. Go, go go fuck yourself. No, don't don't accuse me of having Barong fucking degree especially a degree as useless as Camino. It's not useless I mean if you're. If. You're an attractive woman. vignette. Communications degree. Workout but no, no, I mean. I don't even understand why they even offer a communications. degree. Yeah. I mean communication degrees. It's useful. It's like a business degree right? Just a general business degree like it's ridiculous. So don't how dare you fucking or anyways. Okay. So I one thing I haven't missed about Keane, it's Jason Phone Call. So we're GONNA finish this story coming up. 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It's going onto Brodel in v D live chat saying Pibor so crying Cova disease risks are trolling or perfect tools for tyranny. Oh. Yeah. Most people I know who are at least like someone rational and not totally. Devoted to the. Cult religion of. Whatever the priests in the. V White. Lab Coats tell them radio people just believe whatever. Of Science Establishment says. they're waking up to I mean this is just yeah, it's it's like I don't I don't I don't know anyone personally who's who's actually like confirmed to have gotten corona virus much less actually die from now. Yes I do live in A. More remote part of the country but it same I of friends from all over country right and I even asked me a Canadian relatives I said to him. I said you who live in Montreal which is we? Think it's like. Hot Hotspot. For. Canadian cases just because you know how many old people Varna province. And I sent him I said, do you know anyone who got the fucking corona virus who tested positive and he said? Just his mother but that's IT and she recovered from it within a week and it's like you. So it's ridiculous. Yes I agree. And you have these fucking morons like James who just believe whatever of a fucking TV tells them. fucking. Gosh like was I bet you know James started life with a room temperature IQ and it's just been going down in down over the years due to. See his drinking essentially and just constantly listening to Freetalklive I mean. Yeah. So What do you want? Your speaking of me here. Yeah, yeah I'm calling the out for being fuck in TV head believer. I don't watch TV yeah you watch Fox News. Events Right. Now you used to, you used to watch Fox's then you got you couldn't afford your bill. So now you only listen l. RN in your obsession is getting a stronger. That's it. Excuse me your learnt you've learnt well from a loser that called himself minister and it was a hypocrite and it's a terrible human being. You call yourself a Christian and you quote the Bible and yet you you make these Ukraine's arguments that you create these blind that don't exist about James. I don't believe anything we just said, but you said I believe back and therefore you tear me down and then you win the argument this is based off. Paul your the sell this is this is based off of what I learned from discord ride you know James I haven't been on the look go I haven't. Actually I, haven't even thought about James since was probably the last time I was here. So I'm just going based off what I learned into discord. James, which discord is a yeller and discord is a very, very good place for relevant information gang over James. You take very well after Marchington who should literally be dead. And you take very well after Dorothy, calls. Himself Freeman. Take a look at yourself. Kid your entire college career has been a gap for years. You've learned nothing except for to take after terrible pizza James terraced. Parents I, if you want. Let come back on because we didn't get to your topic of Corona hoax and now you're going off about me. So all right. I'll give you one last chance to talk about whatever you know that original. I'm going off about you because you talked about me and create an argument. Krona, hoax. What was your? Chance, it's not a hoax it's a real pandemic, the government complete the overreacted about it. I've been saying that since March you fucking loser to people that I actually talked to that are don't listen to L. R. N. and you call it an obsession I. Love how you keep on parroting. Words that literally you learned from two people neither of as easy as boring me go fuck yourself. So. Back to what we were talking about here, I know every time I accept this call Michael This is going to be good. This is going to be good. It's going to be funny and it's just not. All right. Well, that's five minutes in my life I've never getting back. Anyone who has positive keene state will be required to isolate either by returning home or reporting to a designated space on campus. Until they receive a negative test result college in collaboration of Cheshire Medical. Center is also conducting contact tracing when it learns, of Covid, nineteen case in requiring anyone who comes into contact with someone who test positive to quarantine for fourteen days, and we've been very successful doing that Treadwell said so far so good that this is how we can hope to limit any spread of a virus if it does go into the population. Oh Shit. Excuse me. Thank you. See you tipped five dollars and said nothing. You know before I even gave the tip line outlets. Thank you very much. Appreciate that five dollars. Okay all right at least James Call was somewhat worth it. Yeah I guess I'm sort of on the fence I wanNA, do the after show just because I do have I've actually a lot of video content I wanNA play but also I can only breathe out of my mouth right now and that is not fun. So we'll see we'll see how much people want it. So thank you appreciate that the five dollars. So. Screwed me. OKAY SO WE'VE BEEN TESTING EVERY Star testing every week. Now tro said she's pleased how students have followed keen cove in nineteen protocols. So just wearing masks maintaining physical distancing in avoiding large gathering. So she's all. She's very appreciative just how good little slaves they are. No okay, I guess you missed via beginning of the show, I have severe allergic reaction to something. You could be dog hair I think because I was around a bunch of dogs today especially if it's one big furry German shepherd. Fuck was. Saint Bernard St. Bernard. And I'm allergic to Animal Dander and I used to think I was like somewhat over it just because I used to have a dog and I used to have a cat and I would sneeze a lot but it wasn't bad. But the thing is I lose I lost my immunity to it. And I haven't I haven't been around a dog since. Fork Fest petting Jazzy Right. And even after I pet Jasser Sneeze and had issue. So I mean I just like lay also pigs to avert the form had pigs petting and playing for pigs. So we have. Robert Online thank you for the call what's on your mind? You're on the Air Robert. Hey. I'm I'm doing. Okay. It's it's been been a fun weekend of of the VR allergic reaction thing that's sort of ruins ruined it a little bit. It's another day in paradise. So. So have you been holding up rob. I. I've noticed. In the last month or so that. You know people are. Sort of really route you know what I mean because of his pandemic. Absolute I've seen first hand people are losing their minds. You know and. 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No, that's the last thing I need is whiskey because whiskies full a history means right and that's what I'm allergic to 'em allergic to his demeans. or not but I'm allergic to history means but it's like it's like what the body releases. Or something or over has something to do with with allergies and so whiskey and anything that has to do like wheat or of these things that it has history means in it. And I took an antihistamine like about. Here about two hours ago actually a little bit. A little bit over two hours ago so I guess it's running. Shit. Often should I take Benadryl I I got the gas station version. So maybe it was or whatever. But it's okay. So I'm being rude. So now Robert use. That you think that this whole krona hoax is going to go away by the time trump is out of office. But so so why why do you think that? Because ever since he's been in all. He's been in office if he's thinking. Hold on you're you're cutting in and out Robert. Are Using. Are you using a Voice Detection. A now I'm usually I'm just pressure on the think. And I got it. Okay, please repeat what you were trying to say. Here I was trying to say that ever since he's been in office meaning forty five always told us as Bucknell is. You don't know what to believe anymore and he's turned not the people against one. Another stirred up racism is- Journal on a damn it. I wouldn't say trump is doing I'd say the I'd say the media has been the one doing that you know trump If there's one thing that you know he does do is like had the RNC and stuff he always puts black people front center and so so I mean, I, I don't think. I don't believe that allegation that trump is a race I I'd say the media's doing all of those things. Yeah well, I know that the media certainly isn't. Helping matters but. He's using choice words you know. I said. Yeah, you know and he he's good at. Selecting, different words he's got a you know each cut in Hey selfishly every time and proper a wildcat and you never know what he's going to do and when he plays he plays to win and he plays dirty as you know. You Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. But why so so Do you think Oh. Okay. So then do you think that trump is for one like you're saying that the the whole lockdown thing is benefiting trump and vet as soon as he's elected, it'll stop is that I think that's that's what you're coming to. I'm thinking that if he loses the election, the fats when this is, GonNa end you know but then again if he does lose you know It'll be total chaos because you know as you know the right wing, you know they'll say that the election was read and you know the whole story but I will say that with trump being in office, it has been entertaining I'll give you that okay that we could all agree on. Thank you for call. Robert. Zoo. That's cliven. Heard from Robyn. Wildfire was I I did see him at. The last time I was here in always good to hear from. Robert So. Back to the topic at hand here, colleges face financial uphill battle and this was in revolver. Dot News. which I am using now, way more than drudge destroy as we drudge has been compromised. So in using revolver and this was on here and so this is from the. Some local affiliates, Spectrum News One. Based out of Ohio v Crow Virus Psychology Universities Finances, Pretty Hard Moody's Investor Service has just over thirty percent of public universities in nearly thirty percent of private universities or already infrared. Gadio Keane was in the red it was even before the krona hoax KFC was laughing as I ever KFC or university system. Like a million dollars in the red. Now, a schools cross country have opened in quickly closed cove in nineteen outbreaks. It's unclear where when Vale rebound proposed that do it may come at the cost of more faculty and staff cuts I. I didn't know that places opened and then closed again. Because e even for people buying into it like closing vis. Vis. Suddenly that's Vets I've ever that's because it costs money to reopen. Even if you reopen a day, it's going to cost us a lot of. Initial. Initial money before you even surf thinking about operating costs for after I open everything but I do keep the money. I mean the money they get is essentially the same. They just don't get as much for like in a room and board and such. So even Vo College universities across the country receive federal relief they continue to experience significant amounts of financial stress fixed costs, lost revenue, and limited streams of income put them in whole in it's impacting credit ratings. That's in addition to the onslaught of covid nineteen expenses. For schools that are already struggling financially before pandemic Moody Investor Service analysts Christopher Collins says in order to maintain their fiscal stability going forward, what it's going to take is further budget cuts reductio got and you know a lot of at least of a college I mean, you know I went to college whatever's budget cuts it was very visible. Like a week at tell. And that's not going to be good because you know visa are going to be like not just like we're slashing five percents which you know and ends up translating like a few hundred or thousand bucks. Here. In the you know journalism and. Pr Department It's going to be like you know like ten percent across the board. Shit like that. Most, of ver- costs are tied to faculty and staff, and in many cases fair issues of tenure are issues of unions and these things just make it a little bit difficult. In Ohio writes, state is currently at the bottom of Moody's Credit Rating Scale While University Medical Center Revenue Losses Forced Moody's to downgrade to the University of Toledo's credit score rating a few months ago offers I can't states Caitlyn Bennett's. Alma Mater. Case Western Reserve in Miami University. Which surprisingly is. Not In Florida Miami Ohio I learned. Remains at a stable or positive ratings. Still all schools in Ohio face competitive pressure and it's the same thing in new. Hampshire Because there's like, Dharma Franklin Pierce. Okay so Collins says this verse still a big concern about students remaining through the entire school year KNBR ability to pay based on family income mood has already indicated metaphors Thurber disruption to classes and colleges. sig-significant drops in enrollment financial stress could cause some schools to declare a financial. Crisis. Yes and I like, I do sincerely think that. I give most colleges till like October maybe November at at the absolute latest before they shut down everything again, events starts a on machine learning computer learning, right virtual remote learning. Just because if you are already having like a cake Colorado Ra's Ra's don't want to go back because they're afraid of a buyers this imagine. Administrators right he don't WanNa be liable or whatever doing it back from listening for big. Outbreak of plague. So yeah, I don't know why anyone would actually want to go to a College Star College. Now. So just pushing forty seven coming up. The new fourth edition of healing our world the compassion of Libertarianism we'll take your understanding of liberty to a deeper level and has over thirteen hundred dated references, new cartoons and a foreword by Dr Ron Paul with discounts for multiple book purchases. The fourth edition of healing. 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When I was you know when I when I was younger I was like a big Germaphobe and I was like I I anytime anyone showed up sick or like you know looking sick or not feeling well to work or school I always got pissed my car we're going to run sick but as time went on I matured And realize that it's not a versus no way to avoid getting sick or whatever you know. If you do get sick it's it's not not like a bad liked. I'm not necessarily like a good thing but. It's your body's way of letting you know Vada. It's not doing well and way to get rid of dead cells. or not that's a week cells reply Shouf new ones but since this whole corona happened and now people are so militantly Germophobic I I realized just how callous I sounded in the past like if someone sneezes I freak out and I saw a roll down the window. and. It's come back to haunt me because I have allergies right and you know one hundred percent. Sure. It's orgies and you know you have all these dumb asses anytime anyone like cops because they have A. Drink went into like they have like spit go into her windpipe instead of down down via sophists over got oil. You're sick dude get away from me or you know someone sneezing due to an allergy attack or vendors pollen going around in a wind people freak out and so. This is like you know and I think. There's no way we're going to get everyone who is sick to stay home ever just because people need to work, they can't afford to lose any sixties and hopefully actually like I always thought the sick day thing and not know call me a trade unionist or Marxist or whatever. But I always fought the v. idea of penalizing someone for. Not showing up to work sick to infect others. Is is just absolutely ludicrous right where it's like it in. Some places where people work inside the company incentivizes you to show up sick. Because, if you take, you know what happens if you run out of sick days right and it's like you know if you're not going to get. I. Don't think people should get paid for days that they don't show up I mean to take away someone's job just because they can't show up for a week because they came down with a flu I mean that is that's why unions should exist. But. I. Don't think they should have all the power but they actually do so. But Yeah I mean if people of allergies it's going to be really tough because I saw. Type technologies just to get the pollen counts for each day now. So now the plan my day around fucking pollen right after plan my day around what the trees feel like doing. So that's Already enough to plan my schedule ever. You'll based on the weather based on if a government is open when I to go to their. Buildings and beg for permission. So now I have to. I did depends on also you know the guy to depend on I can only go outside when trees aren't ejaculate or plants aren't ejaculated pollen onto each other. Berkinstocks but too. So I looked up. Allergies. Allergies keen and I see all these over articles. That is how to tell the difference between covert dollar job. This year's going to be worse for coveted allergies and so just imagine all the people who are just perfectly healthy of you know not suffering from corona virus or even just a regular cold who people are going to call the police on who are going to have to like not even she just just not go to work because. Like all right as soon as I open my mouth and say, something people are going to tell them congested and you're GONNA lose her mind so. I feel sorry for. The government, let's see here I don't think most employers would do that. The they give you sick days because we're humans not because the government mandates it. Well, I mean, I, think that they don't get enough. Sick days at least a company is you know my parents worked for? Although, you know as I have you know have family who work in the public school system and what parent would what shit bag parents would do is you know both parents have to work in order to keep up with the Joneses right and you'll live live in our modern society. So parents on. The kid with Sake. Well, you know if a mother would keep a kid home and she take care of a kid and everything. What's not like that now right. So for parents whose kids are too young to be latchkey kids and be left home alone when we're sick, they give the kid I guess what? What is it aspirin or what what what drew over the counter drug lower lowers fevers I think it's aspirin. So we give Kit Aspirin. And then send them to school and. The aspirins key to keep down the fever because. It's school policy of a kid, has a fever have to go home and it makes sense because if you're having a fever most likely, you're very contagious at that point. and. So in order to get out of having to actually be apparent, they would they would give her kids fucking. You'll prescription drugs lower fever, which which actually if you lower your fever that. That makes you sick for longer ripe fevers actually beneficial as long as it stays under one hundred and five, hundred and four. And that's what people are going to do. Right like you know if your if your job requires you to get your temperature taken and you wake up and take your own temperature which. You shove the baby for monitor or up your asshole, and it comes out ninety nine point nine well. I mean the temptation of just going to work anyway because all well, it's one hundred degree fever Ryan Ages Tak- take an aspirin or whatever you'll lowers temperature they go in they work and you'll be spread to everyone. ACETAMINOPHEN VATS it. Thank you I, Profane. Shit bed lowers. The Vet Lowers inflammation. Exactly. So. Coming up ride because I will at twelve thirty I'll do an after show. It's only GonNa last an hour because I'm pretty tired today, but I said I'd do it. Twelfth sharp too because I don't have any archives or anything to do. So I will be talking about the evolution of St. Tactics. Being used footage from the Patriot truck parade or whatever that got overshadowed. In Portland after that dude that trump supporter Patriot prayer dude got shot by Bennie antifa freak. So we'll be talking about that. Getting into here actually. Did I feel like getting into drama and stuff just because I saw. The reason reason magazine's twitter account was like re tweeting something regarding. MTPA. Okay here it is. You're not allowed to no. No, I'm sorry anti was the Joe. Jorgenson and like evaded got slaughtered in the comments, right? Like this whole bat thing it was just. So you know if you don't know who Joe Jorgenson is welcome to ninety nine point nine percent of the population who don't. You just left the ninety nine point, nine percent of the population. Who doesn't know about her? She the bat thing where I see in twitter something about her being bad jokes and I'm like this is so fucking cringe what's going on and it turns out she got bitten by a bat or something and it was. You know it was like. It reached like some very obscure mainstream news and I'm thinking over capitalizing on shared. It's like okay, well is. So this proves that there that she's worse than Gary Johnson and bill well, put together because she doesn't even have any like anything interesting to say at least with Gary Johnson even with his dumb ass gaffes like what is Aleppo? He had his his policies that he was very passionate about. Was I and I'm thinking is the only time I ever saw any coverage of Gary Johnston was one who is negative or doing something stupid. Or was the he got all pissed off. Sorry. Yelling into a reporter's face about how he was four, the legalization of marijuana. You're not allowed to film the fight to control who reports from Portland. Both sides are getting their information purposely bottlenecks media report. In Aurora reason is just awful here Nancy Rahman could we get a biotech on her? Reason is just like inver attempt to separate themselves. I guess we're sick of getting accused of being. right-wingers or whatever they virtue signal to no end it's it's it's unreadable. The only part that's readable or of a comment sections because that's where you know og listeners and readers would tear it apart I mean reason is just. One of these. Coke. May. Not. Necessarily the copays I think maybe one per nothing of Cato. Institute but it's these LAUBER -Tarian I'll call them. Photography equals death you're not allowed to fill you're not allowed to fill. That's what antique is crying is a cry. You hear innocently protests in Portland Oregon always shouted at close range to your face by dark demonstrate Demonstra. Yeah. After dark demonstrators is a very fucking polite way of calling from rioters reason. You get a survey yes. You can't film you could point out but vape of cells filling in essence. Using innocently twice insane paragraph every week you could push for hands away from covering your phone. You can to note that Salt Villa, they'll get upset you have your phone report from from stealing your phone all these things happen to me and none of impact on contention that you're not allowed to fill this. So. All right. I'M GONNA come back with some videos from these protests twelve thirty. PM Twelve thirty am eastern sharp be there. I'll be. Thank you ever so much single-season. Why did you move to the Shire I moved here to the Shire because there's other people around who take liberty just as seriously as I do I moved to the shire because I saw videos of people challenging authority and thought that I could get support myself it called to me like do this right now I wanted to be around people like me who got it and once I got here I knew there was nowhere else I wanted to be. 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Quick Reminder everybody to subscribe to our Youtube Channel and click that pesky notification bell and joining me today is an author and a teaching pastor Nathan Finocchio. Welcome to the report. As, to be here this. I'm glad to have you. Sir because as you probably know, I do some talking to people of faith. People. Better, skeptics people that are somewhere in between and I always find these to be sort of the most interesting conversations that I have. So before we do anything about what you're doing now tell me a little bit about your journey to fade. Yeah. So I'm the son of a preacher man, my dad. Has Been in the ministry as long as I could remember. and. I've sort of just fallen into it speak went on I try to. Not. Necessarily, run the other way do something else and sort of caught up to me. You know it's like you know. So this kind of this what I do now because it just kind of what I know but I do. I do have I've always had a strong faith in God I just never saw myself as the ministerial type because you know. People of faith I guess spiritual leaders they kind of have a tight might in my opinion there mike kind of square and. Stay home on Friday nights and play scrabble. With. Grandma. Do with life you know. Hey don't knock scrabble man everybody loves scrabble look I take that back. Okay. Scrambled his crate and grandma's wonderful. Well to your point though you Kinda like well wait a minute and look at this guy doesn't really look like pastor and then on the other hand, you look like sort of a modern Jesus. So you're doing a little everything over there. It's you know it's a work in progress. did you on the way you said you did a little something before going into this even though you came from a family of faith. was. The faith part always there or did you mean that you deviated from that too or did you just mean that Sorta career wiser something? I just meant that SORTA? career-wise yeah. I was doing music. For about eight years and. So it's of doing that and things just work out the way. I kind of wanted them to work out as for when back to. Went back to the family farm so to speak, and so I'm just Kinda doing ministry now for the last. Gosh. Last, six years. Tell. Somebody said You SORTA lay out what your belief system is with? That'd be kind of broadly speaking. Yeah. So I'm I'm a confessional Christian. That's what I'd say I'm. In the the brand of Christianity that I'm or the stream that I flow in it's more of a pentecostal Christianity. You know. So we're the ones that I. Mean I've never handled a snake before but that's kind of the Gospels or floor you know tambourine destroying. Pentecostals. Ones that when you go to our church on the weekend. it's kind of like a rock concert. So we got lasers. You know we we kind of attract a younger crowd. But our idea basically is that we have A. A historic Orthodox confessional. Christian doctrine. So we believe that stuff that the church has always believed. We can fasten we profess that but the we wrap it up. In sort of a modern in a modern vibe. Yeah. Do you get a lot of push back on that sort of I've seen this in a few different versions where there's sort of belief that you just have to have the belief in the Orthodoxy and the conservative look at religion, and then you bring in music you bring in lasers you bring in bands and all sorts, other stuff and people a certain set of people will think that that will kind of. The original message. Yet. Yeah I think that's utter and total ridiculousness Basically, I mean look Vatican's three and kind of with the Catholic, Church has done like. Is having services in English, some hell diminish the Catholic churches you know their their message. No, it doesn't so. Essentially what we're doing where they're just there. For. Them progress is translating the mass from Latin to English Ross. We're doing exactly that we're translating the message but like. You know the the currency I think of our generation is music, the arts, and so that's kind of how we communicate about language. Right. So sorta speaking of music and the arts kind of put you on my radar is that Justin Bieber is a member of the church I don't want you to get into any any specifics about anyone that goes to the church, but but what do you sense? Is happening with people of his age related to believe there does seem to be something going on. You know kind as running these services now, and as you just said, it's sort of related to music and culture in something else. It's not what we think of when we just think of the traditional religious perspective. Yeah hundred percent. The people I know you mentioned Justin had cognac as far as I know they had church upbringings So there's a lung lot of people come up in the church. I Know Justin for a fact did. I went to I spoke at his home church in Canada. I'm actually Canadian I. I grew up forty five minutes from where he grew up. So I know like Elvis for crying out loud. You know came up in the churches. It's not uncommon in the American story that people in the arts come up in church, and then they kind of leave the small town they do big musical things so. But in terms of a return. I mean we saw even analysis career you know the all native for. Was For his Gospel Record. So there's something I think intrinsic to. Americana. And the church music. So it's a pretty common common theme wiping millennials and Gen z. a reconnecting with or connecting for the first time to fake. I think. Large part due to the failure in a perhaps of of. Of Secularism, it doesn't work. And there's questions. I I think that that it's tempted to answer that it hasn't answered and that's why you'll even see guys like Sam Harris who have become spiritual not at any sort of Orthodox sense. But an awareness that maybe there is something out there that aren't we connect to and soul and spirit etc.. So I think we have something to offer people. That is that is reasonable. In that also experiential So one of the things that I've been talking about on the show Alleles, that I think a lot of the problems we're having is that we seem to be reaching the end of secularism which I think is sort of what you're alluding to that. When you get to the end of pure secularism with nothing else outside of itself that everything's on the table again, and we don't know if men are men and women or women and were debating destroying our past in the name of some Utopian Future and the rest of it do you see that as the natural kind of outgrowth of what a what a purely secular society is? Yeah I think. Gosh without getting into a huge history lesson. What I would call. I think there's two types of of two types of people in our churches right now gathers we would what we would make might call leftists. As, secular might be a secularist might be a better term. But we have. For. Lack of a better term conservative which I can't stand the term but but just using generalizations in what I think happened as a society is that we have an epistemological crisis that's going to happen with what has happened because secularism is the idea essentially that material is the only thing that you can touch and we all we all live together in our material society. and let's forget about things that are not Arnon material experts rally because those things will just divide us and. Kind of works at first but then. It begins to hammer down everybody into just material and people aren't just material in the world isn't just took a lot more to it. Than that and so. We have this epistemology. That's GonNa Develop from secularism in that small is essentially like. We got rid of. A traditional authority which you know traditional Dory's kings and priests and church. Not, that they weren't. Commit like doing bad things and that there were there were there was a reason for them to for us to be suspicious of it. So we did away with it. It's sort of like now that we have no traditional authority, the self has become the locus of of everything, the the locus of interpretation, and so there's a great deal of pressure on people to know everything. That's why like in our culture we have yet to self authenticate you have the self help you need to build up the self and you need to be the best version of yourself because nobody here is going to help you and you can't trust anybody. And so what happens is that experience now becomes like it becomes the highest metric in a world where there's no authorities that can be trusted. And so in the church, we have people that are coming in and right there. It's all about experience. That's I. Think we're we're. Borrow from James Lindsay S. we're a positional victimology becomes so massive we were dealing with with Georgia's right now it's like you know people love the idea of Jesus, but the the the scriptures. So which Christians we appeal to an External Authority, we believe that. Leave things about reality that that. That are just kind of their incompatible with most kids that are coming in like kids that are coming in or going reality is my experience but Christianity is going reality is what God says in the Scriptures and so it's kind of it's in it's very similar to That's why I think that Christianity will save Western civilization because we the last ones who believe in science, which would be hilarious. So. But just the idea that yet we believe that that truth exists externally I imagine asked that religious fanatics believed that truth exists externally. Dave. Ryan we believe in what we might call phenomena logical transcendence. The idea that like a tree is you can't just call tree whatever you WANNA call tree concern is real and if you wanna go ahead and drive your car into that tree, you will experience phenomenal transcendence. You will agree that or rather why don't you live your life like? There are things that exist side of you and for us as a way that we appeal to the Christians, we try to kind of try to convert them to Christianity. Christianity Christianity is this thing that it's like we is reasonable. We believe that truth is external arnold it's not all about you and your experiences. It's also about some things that that God has said in his word and so morality isn't just kind of whatever you want it to be or however you wanNA paint this is. Know God who created you? He has some opinions is God it is what it is and so you need to. Some extent. So so it's pissing a war that the churches in. 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You gave me about five roads there that we could shoot off. So I'M GONNA I'M GONNA try to come around to all of them or get them. I. I'll see if I could do it. But I you mentioned James Lindsay who I've had on the show of course who wrote the book with with Peterberg goes about how to have important conversations. One of the things that I'm sort of amazed by by this sort James Lindsay Peter Bogosian Michael Shurmur the more I would say left leaning largely atheist crew is that many of them are suddenly going you know all those religious people we were screaming about they're not so bad and they're appearing on stage with religious people. There you know, I? Just, about six or eight months ago, I was on stage in front of fourteen thousand students at Liberty University with Jerry follow junior right next to me and it was just absolutely incredible and sure we have some differences. We have some theological differences we have some. Spiritual differences and political differences but no nobody cared everybody was thrilled. It was wonderful. But I'm curious what you think about that the fact that some of the sort of main drivers of secularism are suddenly looking at you guys basically going. You're you're a lot nicer than that other crew over there. But. Yeah I don't think it's just modern sectionalism that we're strange bedfellows. I think we have a very similar demolished and that's why we actually argued Dave. You can't argue with that. You don't have the same this democracy with. We have the same epistemology sadists like we do have demands. Of Of we demand of literature we we come at things believing that there are external forces to give the difference being that the natives would believe in all strictly material universe but but material is super important to Christians as well and the idea that truth lives externally is it's it's really important to us as well. So I think that we find ourselves on the same aisle with respect to where his demolished and. Chris aren't perfect and you know we've slanted are thousands and we've made some massive mistakes and one of my favorite quotes of a Christian theologian. Saint Augustine who said that the church is a whore but she's my mother. We're aware Dave of the things that have happened in history that are stupid. There's a lot of people who've used the scripture to do some really stupid things But yet, we find ourselves now. Debating with people who we have the same at the small jet we can't have a conversation with you if you can't define reality the way that I define reality and so to me once again, it's an epistemological actor. Do you sense young people that are that are showing up now. The Lights and the music is something and you're explaining sort of the end of secularism. So they feel that there's a whole there. But do you do you sense just like in the last couple of years maybe because of the culture war because of social media that the whole that they have seems to be way bigger that it's maybe not just spiritual, but it's also very community based. We got all of these tools and APPS and we thought it was gonNA, make us more connected and in many ways, social media made us antisocial and now people are trying to find community in oddly more traditional ways whether there's lasers or not. Yeah absolutely I. Remember there was a book written in the Nineties by Guiding Putnam? Talk. Titled Bowling alone and it sort of sociological book. At. The erosion of community in America you know beginning with the Bowling Leagues you know how? Like bowling? Leagues. Were like they replaced Church for you know my grandfather's generation. And a now that's gone. So there's definitely definitely a sociological factor. I think that to be quite honest with you, the sociological factor may very well be one of the biggest factors in the church where all we understand the value of community we believe the logically that were not made to be alone. There was one thing in the garden. That was wrong. A lot of people think that in Genesis Story God Greece's garden. It's it's like it's perfect paradise was not it was optimal for living and the one thing that was wrong was that Adam, was alone and so he creates eve and and so created for one another and we need one another desperately. So that's definitely attended of our faith. In there's definitely is still a logical it factor to church. And the there's a giant I also believe that. There's this There's this book written by Pulitzer Prize Winner I, think his name is Ernest Becker. The title of it was the denial of death and he's in his book. He's naked looking at secular and kind of what it's done in modernity. And he believes that with the death of God. Society. Like, okay. Well, now I because I need somebody. To validate my reality, the validate, my existence to see me because we need to be saying as human beings, and that's why we need relationship and so he believed that the first option that modern stride was the love option. In that, and that's why everybody having the one finding the want like like. Three hundred years ago like Love wasn't the reason why you got married. You know like but now we put all this emphasis and that's why we have apocalyptic hookup culture. You know in New York because we're all alternative find God. And for somebody to validate your your living. So to me, that's with the he's got. Are you saying God's not on tender? Is that what you're telling me Oh, he's definitely on Ted. He studied at searching for people. He's going after the the ease left ninety nine and going after the one So I I think did I. Think what you said is absolutely right in a roundabout way I think that you know we're looking for love we're looking for romance. And I think we. In a in a strange way, we do find it in community. We find that validation that we we need but but in a in a more spiritual sense date yet. We find it in God in that he and that's what I believe. That's what we teach. We teach the God's the one who sees you. He's the one who Goes. After us, you're not the one who's been going after him but he's been the one that's been pursuing because he knows he knows that against you and he loves you for. So when people sort of when that settles them. There's a lot of things like the change and being part of a community. Is. Definitely one of them. Since I've been working from home I found that even more important to spend time outside every day. If you have to I suggest writing Rad powered bike ride power bikes make it so easy to put your kids on the back and take them out for a spin anytime. 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Replace I. Know that all sorts of churches temples away virtually every organization secular or not is dealing with some sort of like internal split over how to deal with everything that's happening these days literally from Corona virus to black lives matter and everything in between. What what version about are you seeing these days? Yeah There's definitely a political. Part of of everything I do this is insane. It's insane. I, keep on telling my friends is. That all your scoring, what? What is happening? Twenty twenty There's a there's a there's a conversation in the church right now politically about. The threshold of. The threshold of religious liberty versus. Government. Needing to. Keep a tab in a lid on chronic virus in. So we're kind of I guess exploring that threshold. Here, you got people who That's that's that's absolutely fine. Falls along ideological lines right so there's there's seems like there's two types of Americans there's ones that want to. Dig a huge trust in the government, my wife. Is. One of my wife has mistrial Canadian but my wife is like she trusts the garbage she's just like they are. You know they love us and I want to be she told me last night I wanted. I'm like my God. That was just A. Wreck with all of that. Totally. So there you got my wife and then you got me on like the most distrusting. A person of government because yeah, I you know like. They who are these angels it like the old argument who are these angels that are going to make these decisions for us. So there's a huge conversation of the church and data loan Dave was tearing apart right like so you got like pastors like gone up passers of people people in the in the faith community just being. Trust the government, authorities. And then And then now you have, of course. your George. Floyd's Jeff which was horrific tragic. And You have black lives matter The organization that's kind of a occupied some space. In wake of the George Floyd killing in the Nevada. Because it, it looks. It looks. From social media that young black men are being hunted down killed so So. Yeah. You have this major space and it's Another thing that's kind of dividing us right now it's just like the narrative to believe and and what we ought to do about it. Regardless if you if you believe that narrative for not. Christians are called to born with those who mourn those who? So finding that threshold of going the I I might not agree with the political narrative. But. I'm called to to stand alongside. People who are in my life that regardless of whether not whether or not believe that they are their emotions are rooted in any kind of reality I'm arguing from. Conservative, you know like I have a responsibility towards them to love them. You know like my wife is is terrified of airplanes. It's not rooted in anything logical at all. but I'm the one that stuck holding the bag of comforting her and getting zanex Lamar on a flight and you know. So there's an element of that. If you're a conservative that you have a responsibility towards the people that you're in community within your living life within you know. Quoting stats at my wife doesn't help reflecting Zaidi. Lake Right. So finding how? Is. The. Mess rate. Yeah. How how worried are you? Though that? Letting in this sort of different what I would call of religious belief systems, social justice that once it enters the institution enters the church that in many ways it will. It will rot from the inside all of the good things that you've been talking about I mean, this is what we've sort of seen happen to every secular institution. It's happening to the New York Times it's happening to the Washington Post. It's happening to Harvard and Princeton and all of our liberal institutions. So I'm sort of fascinated where with this idea that it could be entering you know sort of conservative or religious institutions and that they may not even have the correct defense mechanisms to purge it or keep it at A. That's exactly what's happening. So. It's not necessarily. So. For me I've tried to dance line were like. The idea black lives matter is like it's an idea it's a saying I I've sort of divorced from the organization. you don't like that but I'm divorced from the organization because the black lives do matter and so if there are instances of where. Your police brutality that doesn't seem to fit the resin has as we as we examine the data. That's one of the big ones that we know that the you know the. Harvard rollins. Is Paper and we know the study that was done. Heather McDonald obviously is loud but one of the things that I have a giant question mark over the police brutality part. I don't know if we're dealing that you know well and so. Let's say you're like me where you're going okay that the shooting part you know there's there's no racial vice been detected by three major studies. But police brutality. You have question on that like why or thirty percent of blacks being Accused of resisting arrest or they resisting is that was happening or the police you know being? Antagonistic towards whatever. So so let's let's just say for example that there is some antagonism it needs to be back. So I stand with one brother who feels he's he's terrified. And he's he's like you know like, I, just feel like. Came in Lanka's matter. With your black last like I'll say that now the organization. They believe the location of the family which is doing nobody a service particularly the black community in America right so. So. So for me obviously, I have some fatter theological concerns to fry. But I'm walking this line where a community with with with with my black brothers and sisters and so So for me like once again. I. Have a concern about critical theory critic this whole this ever happening right now I believe is a Trojan horse I believe that that. That James Lindsay in how he described as a Trojan horses he's exactly right on it's coming into our churches. Do the division that it's causing right now is insane because like you said, it's another gospel it's another religion it's like. Because, once again, they have their own accustomed to the way they discovered truth. Is is from a positional standpoint. So so how do I respond to that? It's it's it's it's also possible death, but I have to show rational compassion empathy. Because empathy. Is. As we've seen in the last ten fifteen years in psychology is dangerous and your biases amended empathy to have what's called rational passion. So I have a reasonably moved through the data move through the things that are happening using, Mike Christian worldview and framed and framework in my system. and. Then as I'm checking these movements and don't okay. These commands right with everything has a demand we demand that. You. Overhaul. James says you know you can't tear down the master's House Masters Tools? So we had to completely change how we structure. Not Not just the way we structure organization. But we also demanded like. The way that you go about finding truth changes as well and so at that point. For me, I'M NOT GONNA fight peripherals like in any good argument you always argue first principles. You don't argue peripherals so for me when it comes to the black lives matter movement. When it comes to things that are happening on the streets and the protests, etc I'm not gonNA. There's some things I think that a peripheral NS conservatives we get a little bit sidetracked by and so to me. The critical theory thing. This is why I think James Lindsay. Is just so on the money right now is because it's the you don't go after the fruit you go after the root and to me critical theory the root of this giant problem it's is the reason why the political narrative been spun the way it is and to me, that's that's what I'm going after wild holding the hand of people that are it. Yeah I mean it's almost an impossible. Place to put yourself because Ryan hold something you're trying to be open. You're trying to retain ideas and also not put people down. It's tough. What do you make of this idea? So you hit on that critical theory whatever you cultural Marxism, whatever you WanNa call this thing that it's religious in nature one of the one of the facets that I'm constantly amazed by. Is there's no forgiveness in this thing that basically if you're white or you're gendered or you're Christian or whatever you're privileged and thus bad and that really you just have to pay penance your whole life you have to live on your knees your whole life where most religions have some level of forgiveness right? You can actually atone for your sins and hopefully be a better person on the other side. This thing doesn't have that this thing has oh, well, live like a slave forever in effect. One hundred percent so So in in critical theory, you're sort of guilty. Before proven innocent. So, everybody's guilty. And as James Lindsay. As observed in in in his findings All of the critical theorists believe essentially the if you even even for example, by WanNa be somebody accuse me of problematic yesterday. But. That's the whole point. The whole point is that I can never be. Truly an ally. My my ally ship always going to be problematic. Like. So, there's no, there's no, there's no end to it. It just continues mom to be. What it is so Yeah they they don't forgive because there's nothing to forgive because I'm stuck in unstuck in the oppressor group. If I'm stuck in the oppressor group and there's no escaping it, there can be no forgiveness if there's no repentance right? Like isn't that how it works so that I'm just perpetually a center, I'm just GonNa continue to perpetuate the oppressor group. There's nothing that I can do. Yeah. So that's why of course canceled culture is actually the logical conclusion of critical theory. Right is the logical conclusion that to be consistent. Logically, they have to E- consistent in their cancel concert because they have to get rid of the oppressor class. I hate to tell you I think it's beheadings. Conclusion. Canceled culture is just a stop on the way but we can. Just for you personally dealing with this the idea that everything's become political and in many ways, I think people used to go to have religious experiences regardless of the religion they would go there to escape politics that that religion sort of offered them that you know that separation from the real world to to think of something timeless something like that. To see it all seep in just for you as a leader of a community has that been on you? So, so so one of the things I do. In my roles I traveled to to to a number of churches I, don't I'm like I'm not the lead pastor. In a community but I go to all of the different communities and I speak a number of churches and so what is what is it like while? People are people don't. Get Church is supposed to be a place where they. Hear about the love of God for them. They hear about the sacrifice that don't They remember. The Lords. Of. Passion etc and so it's kind of become in some circles in some churches. The Gospel has totally become about current events. And I think that that's definitely problematic. It definitely become problematic where where. It in Christianity. We teach essentially that everybody's a priest. In fact The process of reformation happened. Because, one of Martin Luther Ninety five problems levels of the church was that you had have a priest to connect with God, and the New Testament is replete with scriptures above the priesthood of the believer. And so what this necessarily means for Protestants like me is that at every believer is supposedly coming to church to be appraises what you literally as you come to free students, the Lord they measured others. Like when you come to church. And it's a lesson on critical theory. You know there's there's no escape. I think that people aren't able to do their job as a Christian I think that it's it's really tough to glorify God worship God what it's like. You're you're in a perpetual classroom and there's down there's fusion I. Think one of the biggest frustrations for me is that I I don't think that a lot of church leaders have their pulse on this epistle logical issue. So it's just it's washing Hashers are good people. They love people. And so from that good place, I love people it. Probably, we need to talk about this because this, this is a real big this this is this is where the rubber hits the road. But problematically, if you're not gonNa Paul's on culture and understand the undercurrents is logically You're creating a lot of confusion for people steps absolutely what's happening? Do you think certain religious denominations and certain sex within religions are just better at keeping some of this stuff at bay so it seems to me it's not perfect but like something like, Orthodox Jews let's say have really kept this at bay in a way that conservative or reform Jews haven't been able to or evangelical have done a pretty good job at keeping at bay. Do you think that there were like certain strengths and weaknesses from a Protestant perspective or or another denomination perspective that makes certain worldviews a little more able to stand up to these things. Absolutely so it's a focus. Is a focus on on their purpose like why does or White Orthodox Jews exists right? Like they know why? and. breakdown sometimes to the way they dress like they're in this world, but they're not of this world sort of Jesus said. And so I think. They do a great job you know of like focusing on their community and focusing on the reasons why they exist. So. There is a there's definitely a bounce to see when I look at Jesus and. Once again, this is an implicit pyschological issue. But when I look at Jesus, I don't look at somebody who has necessarily engaged the politics of his day I. Think the Jesus said my kingdoms not of this world it's so he had a little bit of. I'm in. The, world. But I'm not a does that mean that we don't engage in issues of justice no doesn't mean that we don't. Think that marching with Martin Luther King. Was the right thing to do. during the civil rights and and. I think that defeating Hitler was probably a good thing to do. You know there's there's. The I. think that the Church doesn't. Run from things, but it's it finding it sifting through the things that we should engage of house, engage the threshold of that. It's a conversation that we're having right now and. Evangelical is probably have done a really great job because evangelical Cz are a bit more heady pentecostals are probably we lean a bit more experiential. and. So I'M A. I wish that it costs were a bit more likely than juggles in in. In that they. They sifted they had album muller. He he's the president of the Southern Baptist Convention set out. He sent out a letter on critical theory. All of the Bachelors guys this is what's happening like the pentecostals was a bit of the Wild Wild West in Christianity. I don't know if you knew this, but we won't only been around for one hundred twenty years and we they're seven, hundred, fifty, million of us with the fastest growing version of Christianity in the world. We're GONNA CLIPS WE'RE. GonNa Clips Catholicism in fifty years so So our brand of Christianity in terms of filling stadiums, people singing our song and all this stuff it's it's it's a big place. It's like it is the battleground. For Christian expression and that finance threshold of where all are what Christianity is GonNa look like a Cetera. So pentecostal don't we don't have. We don't have like a a a grand poobah like Albert Bowler or like Jerry vowel whatever. Who? Kind of. Dictates to us or tell us hey, guys, this is what's coming. We're we're very, very much independent. So Because of that was the nature of that and because we're experiential and because we're so kind of up on the culture. It's a mess right now but nobody knows what to believe but we know that people are hurting and so we're going to run towards people because we're experiential deeper have experiences or we're GONNA love the. that. The rational part of our compassion seems to be a bit missing and we're unawares to what is really inside the Stroz orders. Well, that's exactly what I wanted to have this conversation because I just see this happening across the board and I'm fascinated when I see it in communities that I'm not necessarily part of. It's incredible when you see things like urine in California to our wonderful Progressive Governor Gavin newsom. Basically telling people that they can't sing in church that can spread. Cove and then you know our mayor here in La. Garcetti is out there with no mask on kneeling in front of protesters and then also tells us we can't have fourth of July celebrations or you know we gotta stay in our house. All of these crazed conflicting messages do you think that also is just a driver for religion like it seems like They're specifically attacking religion at some level. Right you see the blasios locking up playgrounds for Orthodox Jews to kids go to but then he's out there in the streets with protesters that there seems to be like an actual assault on religion, and then at the same time, it's like everything they send US mixed messages. So it's like maybe that's a little paranoid. Yeah no I think you're right. To ask with the I feel like it's been open season on Jews or Sometime now And it I. think that's definitely there's a that falls along a particular political. I'll. Whether, we care to admit it or not. with respect to Christians and houses, of worship. Yet like we. Americans. Believe. In. Peaceful Assembly and the right to assemble. And the freedom of religion and so there's once again you know there's exploring that threshold of who you can tell to that together for example like. A popular pass him California Jensen Franklin. made a statement about this on the social media three days ago and like all hell broke loose in pentecostal? Christendom. And Jensen was just like. Like I feel like this is a bit arbitrary. and. Churches Jensen March with protesters and he goes looking at March. So I. You know I was there and what I'm saying though is I think is arbitrary to allow the protests and not allow people to Second Church. And it just. Seems that seems rational to me that seems bright sensible. Hundred you're saying everyone operates in people screaming right like so like if you can scream in a mask raid besides somebody. Or you can stay in a mess. You know people are going about droplets yet hundred percent but that's what people are screaming says like. So I just think that like the concern of covid nineteen. In some ways is like a little bit. It's miss. I have already friends who've had golden nineteen. Right, like you have a ninety eight point, eight percent chance of surviving this thing if you're under the age of forty. But it's it. All seems to be young people. Young. Progressives. Are Screaming Jensen. Christian progressives going how dare you bring the protesters into the I'm not I I marched don't do this bit arbitrary. And then he said, and then he said you know make sure that you folk your face this. This fall. and. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. So it's just like pop you tell him to devote now who to vote for. I don't know do this. It's it's a mess and But I think that. Once again, I, think it doesn't fall along necessarily faith lines with follow along ideological lines in terms of what type of government. You want. Do you want a government that is overreaching. Or if you want government who is going to just allow churches, allow people to do what they WANNA do as far as I know Dave. Hasn't been that every single high court has ruled that the governor's overreached churches has been unconstitutional. Is that correct? I don't know if it's every single one but I've seen several of them. Yeah. I mean they look we have a fourth amendment. We have the right to assemble. So the idea that newsom saying you can't do it in church, but you can do it on the street. Simply not constitutional. Yeah. So I think that I think that this type of stuff will galvanize galvanized the particularly Brenda Christian. Christians. But. Once again in hostile ISM. Are philology is has already been experiential in positional. Our church definitely split rate down the line. In terms of. How people will vote how people see like like my wife my wife wants to be nannied. God. Bless her I don't. So you see that we have some serious married to her so we have some serious We have some fish to FRY. All. Right. Then I I only got one more for you because we've we've talked about sort of the strife and everything that's got us here and everything else. But as a man of faith in a crazy time that we're in. Give me something hopeful if you got it what know sort of an outlook that gets us past this and how do we get to something that will start feeling a little more maybe well, maybe feeling isn't the right word that will create a reality that will be a little more in line with some of the things that we've talked about here that good did. So. I think that there are only Across Christians believed that Jesus is GonNa come back and he is going to rule and reign on the earth forever. That's that's what we believe. So until that happens. I think that there's going to continue to be chaos. I'd now. God has given us. We believe this doctrine called common grace where we believe that God has given many faculty and reason. And I believe that one of the ways that we can limit. the effects of the fall and the effects of sin and the effects of goodness is by limiting government. So. Yeah. What is what is the hope or thanks to maybe get better ultimately. The Return of Christ and the Gospel you know that God that God will heal the world and when he heals the world than he becomes president, there's no more elections is his government will be so good that will be caused for praise eternally. Until that happens. I think that limiting people's ability. Is Probably British hope. So yeah. I. I don't think the descriptors necessarily paint some sort of Utopian utilised bring the down to Earth right now before Jesus comes back in. The scriptures aren't redemptive necessarily that way in terms of things are gonna get better things probably will get worse. Just be knowing humanity humanity needs a savior world is broken. And I think we can all agree about that I don't think the fix is more people. The fix is Jesus, Christ he always has been. and. I think that When he comes back he's king will be okay and I think that's actually great. Hope like here's here's some hope you're hoping Jesus but you're hoping somebody who? Who's WHO's rulership and his kingdom? will be good for everybody. So that's those are my. That's my thoughts. All right. You took us out on some hope now in good conscience I can't send people to twitter after a conversation like this, where can people go to find out a little bit more about you and what you do? Think. He'd go to my instagram Nathanson. And or Nathan my website finocchio DOT CA, the Canadian. and. Know, they can hate on me and if they have any issues if every problem with this program has sent an email to dave. Neji Mail. I don't have that g mail. So yes, they can send it their. Pleasure talking to you, and hopefully when all this stuff clears up, we'll be able to imprison sometime. Days thank you. In the small town of Elmira New York. A boy was born into an all American family. The odds of him achieving his dream in the fashion. Industry. One in twenty, three, million. The odds of having a child diagnosed with autism. One in sixty eight. 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We have the discord call in line rooms there over a discord dot l.. R. N. DOT FM. Joining you in the studio here tonight on this live Saturday episode, it's Ian and the captain. So there was kind of a big headline that snuck out this week amid all the. Continuing covid crackdown nonsense that's going on all over the place. And it's really tiresome and we can get into what we did last night because we haven't talked about that broadcast radio. Yeah I. I'm still like that night to think about it. I still have. Let's definitely talk feelings the we'll explorer feeling drive in experience that we had a comedy show last night. We took the show off, took the night off basically for did a prerecorded episode of free, Talk Live last night. That's how big of a deal was and we'll we'll explain more about that. But. This is kind of a big deal here from politico dot com. Josh Gerstein reporting about the. NSA, remember them remember them from twenty thirteen Edward Snowden. You know he put his life on the line basically to. The Nazi. Status. Stables. Edward Snowden or the NSA right? That's the acronym right now. Yeah, that's. but yeah, Edward Snowden many may remember the the name. He put his entire life on the line to go up against the US federal government and tell the truth about the NSA spying and how widespread it it was, and probably still is But that you know he revealed all these different tools and techniques and things that they have in their repertoire to be able to just. Ingest massive amounts of data about you and the people you're talking to or maybe even get on your phone. Your was scary like how granular that stuff even at that time even was and I'm sure the technology has improved since then yeah because we're talking about two thousand thirteen was when the revelations came out and he's talking about things that happened to however many years ago in the past when people call. A trader, he's a spy or something well, I mean, okay if he spied for the people. Yeah you know what I mean like okay. Maybe he did spy like what he revealed he didn't reveal it to another country. He just revealed it to well everybody and said, Hey, this is what's going happening. You know you need to know this because they're lying and then they lied again after he revealed he was real smart about how he revealed the information and he did it in tandem with I think the Guardian newspaper in a couple of others. wikileaks in there somewhere and maybe. They had some but. He, he revealed this information sort of piecemeal where he'd let a little bit out and then the NSA would you know backtrack or apologize or say so you know they they would then also tell another lie. But but by the way, we don't also do acts right and then he'd reveal the information that shows that they lied again and this process sort of kept repeating itself over a period of years it was it was pretty. I. Mean once you get past the seriousness of it, all the methodology was worthy of comedy and now he's hiding out in. Russia somewhere think Moscow wherever. He's been hiding there and he's kind of I mean hiding to some extent right? Like he's still appears on very like you can hire him you can. You can pay him to appear at your convention or something he'll go. He'll remote in and do a Q. and A. Session with your attendees or whatever. Right. So that's the way that he can make money from halfway across the world. Without having to go get awaiting waitress job or whatever. In Moscow he was working as a waitress cocktail bar. He ended up getting back together with the girl the girlfriend slash fiance or whoever it was that he was with at the time when he basically walked away from, that's A. Ship yes. She came back to join him in in Moscow. So like things are going pray for them and trump's even talking about a potential pardon for him. So well, he just pardon the triumvirate. All the Julian assange and Hustle Brazil break that would be. That'd be amazing. I'm not going to get my hopes up for it, but you know. Trump talking about it is one step closer to trump doing something about it whether that will happen or not is another question. You just need the left to like you know tell not to, and then he'll do it. Then he'll. So, the news about the NSA as just a few days ago is that the program that swept up details on billions of American phone calls was illegal and possibly unconstitutional according to the ruling of a federal appeals court this week on Wednesday unconstitutional you mean the government did something unconstitutional. It's constantly doing things unconstitutional. No that can't be there the government whether they can ever actually be reined in. It doesn't seem like they can and and you know even though a unanimous judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals said the role the. So called telephone metadata program played in criminal. Tara fundraising case against four Somali immigrants was so minor that it didn't undermine their convictions. So that's what brought this in front of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals was there was a you know some sort of a criminal case sounds like and so even though the judges have undermined the NSA's legitimacy here to some extent by saying that this was an illegal phone tapping it doesn't matter that you did this they're saying because the people that were convicted under this particular case that was related to the. Fact that you guys were doing all this spying wasn't really that big of an aspect of the case. So they're going to continue with the convictions. It sounds like of these guys again, I don't know anything about the case don't know anything about what what happened with the Molly immigrants, but it was an alleged criminal terror fundraising case in that case. So they've essentially ruled that the spying was illegal. But that ultimately, it's not going to have any effect on this particular case and that no. Inclination as to whether or not they're going to stop it right? Well, that's just it, and that was I think the most important point to make your captain I'm glad that that you did because. It's the NSA. How are you going to believe anything that these people say if they say, Oh, well, we wrap that up twenty, two, thousand, fifteen there was the last time we ever did any spying you guys caught us. Very, very bad and we have accepted. Responsibility for this and we've been bad bad boys here the NSA and we're going to stop being so bad. Now, we're going to be better promise. You believe US right? nope wait you don't believe us but but we're the government I mean we would never lie to you. Yeah I know you caught us a bunch of lies. Back in two thirteen and you know we've changed I've changed I mean can you name a time when the government told the truth about something? No like. Which is why didn't I mean outside of outside of Hey We're going to drop a bunch of bombs and also we're GonNa take to tell you. Though they'll like about where the bombs fell. That's true. That wasn't a wedding party. Now, they were all terrorists. Tonight family. Yeah, they were just. As wedding participants hospital at all right elaborate ruse supposed to look like hospital terrorist training grounds leave us really we're the government we would never lie to you I. mean everybody knows the government gang. Tells lies. That's what they generally expect from them day to day but yet every now and then they become blind the. Joe Biden is going to tell the truth. Net now. We're going to get all of a sudden these government goons and the NSA are going to be honest and change their ways. Does anyone really believe that? I don't know. I just had a horrible thought that there might be some people out in the world evaluating other people using the Joe Biden Sniff scale. And what is that? Three sniffs. You know pretty good does means he's like he's into you. Okay However many gotta come back for more. Scale one to five something snap is just sort of mediocre but five is really. Visas passing over you right like that's not good enough. You've not a piece to watch out children you've rated on the Joe Biden Sniff Scale Biden dot in creepy characters including Joe Biden himself. You'll check out that website if you haven't done that yet. So you know this is a little bit of good news I. Mean technically okay. The court said it was illegal it's by the way seven years later surprise. So it only took us this long to make this statement right and what have they been doing since then well, who knows it's not like they're going to tell you. The NSA toll free number is eight, fifty, five, four, fifty does make you feel good knowing that there's a possible bureaucrat out there somewhere listening to your phone conversation feel good. Does that make you feel safe? 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Better under Democrats. well, I mean I I suspect that if it comes from the mouth politician, it's fine Jerry ally. But. Those are just opinions I mean everybody's got an opinion whether the opinion is the same thing as the transfer, the Democrat. For. New. Call themselves with Democrats who thousand four with. Wolf Blitzer. Economy runs best under no government rule whatsoever. Then you get a good economy, I think that your whole premise is a lie i. don't think you need our help to tell you the answer to these questions. No, that's what he's saying these bad. The economy rise better on a Democrat. Two thousand four interview he table Wolf Blitzer when he identified as a Democrat daily I, got another story for. Two Thousand Fifteen best when he said defines as a Democrat Fifteen. And now, the one year later he ran for you know ally. And he's a Republican. So was he lying when he said he's the Democrat. Well people can change their political parties right at Bill Christian. Wait a minute. Somebody. Can't make a choice to change their political party. It's hypocritical in order to do that will also I would have deposit the question what indeed is the definition of Republican or a democratic great, and then what is the difference between the two? Well difference between the two is when Republicans I did they try to make it like the truth. Now just like you're not answering me not WANNA ask you. We're all What's the difference I don't think politician would ever do that. You're. Not Answering. That is not true at all drove. Laugh. When I got one more good, you didn't answer the question. You asked a couple of questions affair. I didn't answer either so. You believe he said to thing I don't care. Do I believe it sure I believe I mean he's politician he's going to change whichever the wind blow Republican he's live 'cause he's mental parties I know what it means to be either of those things jerome. That's an honest. That's an honest statement I mean is there a principle that holds? Together either of those organizations I don't think there is. Okay I got one more sites. The principle of we tell you what to do. That's something that unites them together I I. Got One more story and. This is the one about this outright now about him calling dancers, people serve their country. Losers, and stockers because he went on television was like a couple of years ago and when he got A. An interview with a reporter guys what about job? Well, he's not a hero because he was captured. He's a loser well, the real the real losers in seconds Jerome Drum the real losers and suckers here are people referred to as the citizenry. This'll be people who live in the imaginary borders called the United States of America who continue to believe that they need a leader and to be told what to do by this gang of goons this Mafia. That are all liars I think everybody in the military's a sucker. I think they got suckered into following the orders of a bunch of politicians. That sucks. Have you ever served Oh God no I. Don't want to be told what to do by much of politicians. Why would I WANNA follow? Politicians. I WanNa, know how can you be a Patriot and also? Make you think on a Patriot to find patriot. Bart I'M TALKING ABOUT TRUMP See now I love freedom. Can You How can you have been patriot? If you didn't become a what do they call it a mercenary and murder some? A paid killer you know it there's no honor to me and following the orders of a bunch of politicians. What's where's the honor their? You know what I understand. Muhammad Ali's career was Roy almost ruined because you refused to fighting feed now and chop get five deferments. Okay and then he comes out of something like that about. Shuckers. Losers for a moment when I heard that comment I thought. For a moment when I heard trump's comments I thought WHOA is trump gone like full on anti war and And I looked at it and I looked at the details on it, and basically he seems to believe that if you got killed or captured as a a service person or whatever had military member that you're a loser. And he only likes the ones who didn't get captured. Knows nothing about service to your country. Okay. What does that means your country? I really want you to answer question man I mean I I know that you like to say you're GONNA call in. I'm sorry. Sorry why I'm not sorry you took a bunch of money from people that was taken from them by the threat of force and you obeyed whatever politicians were in charge of the government at that time. Where's the honor there? Can you explain that to me? People think it's so honorable. Terrorists no higher calling to serve. Contra working I disagree. Back Down from that, I would say there are plenty of higher than that I mean at all I mean opening a business is a much more higher calling and is that true for all countries? Other. or You gotTa Answer. Please answer some questions here Jerome. Know. It's not all about the soapbox. The captain had a question for you is. True for all countries out came, right so you're saying that. He didn't answer I. Don't think to the question. So my question is you said that it's the highest highest honour to serve your country is that true in all countries is owners. Is that true. All countries is it true in North Korea do north. Koreans that the highest honor to serve their country. got that country. What's The difference. Are you an ethnocentrists? Don't don't try to play me. You know I was talking about country. Okay. I'm talking about it but it's a fair question to ask if it's a problem, you all problems and all. That we have with. You know. I'll directly. Traceable to the government. 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We can do that another day but here's the thing So I'm not entirely disgusted with some. He said this is the greatest country and I believe it is I think we have bad people that over the centuries have. That you know two hundred plus centuries have run it by Basically, we're just work. We have the most power and we use it the least although we've used it to you know do things to people that weren't all it's still we're still the best we give to others financially we help give with our life. Aren't you confusing I? Don't do any of that. I do give to others but the local homeless shelter here in the way she means but that's what I WANNA clarify here. Dana. When you say we do these things. Do you mean the American Federal United States government or do you mean that the people of the united the people of America. Okay. Well, that's very confusing I. Think sometimes because people and you say. I agree with giral we're a good country people are, but you've got you've got you got to clarify something here because when you Dana, the terms are designed to be. Confusing, the term country can be used. Okay. I want to get through a sentence to explain this please. So the term country can be used by people sort of interchangeably when somebody says country, they may be meaning the people, their neighbors, their friends, their family, their you know strangers in the mall or wherever people that are nearby. That's what they mean by country. In a certain geographic area. But sometimes when they say country, they mean the United States federal government, which is not a nice organization. It is not an organization that that does much to help people they the only people did they can help they. I had to hurt others in order to get the money to help the people that they might actually help so. If, you can actually point to people that they've helped with like some welfare program will I they had to actually threaten other people in order to get the money out of them. So yes, I agree with you the individuals in the in this area are good by and large good people I'm not gonNA say they're better than anyone else anywhere in the world i. Think. That's ridiculous. I think that people all around the planet are by and large most good people. Good. That's why the world is more peaceful. Now than it has ever been and overal, it has been generally a peaceful interaction between humans because we realized that that being peaceful to one another in you know voluntarily interacting with one, another is productive and it helps us. Be Better people and be more more productive but that has nothing to do with the plot of land you're on or the government. That wasn't my point now that you explain the semantics and I understand that we're on the same page because people used that they used the term country to bastardize out word and I get that being said because you went into the explanation which you and I are on the same page about the Mantech semantics are very important. So that's why I'm about to say something and I don't mean it offensively y hear me out on this jerome pulse in week after week after week. And I'M NOT GONNA accuse him of being interested in the traditional sense. And that means not having knowledge not the best acknowledged not in the sense that a lot of people say, oh, you're just ignorant because they're just trying to bash you he doesn't a bash, but I'm not gonna claiming he's ignorant because he does have a handle he a convenient handle on a certain amount of information but I don't understand why the week after week calls them. They embarrassed themselves on on teen stations. You guys are broadcast on and suffers shows the whole whoever you're listening audiences that he suffers from premeditated stupidity t. Very nice. Let me finish. I this is not meant for pro-trump a for him to get on the radio and I I disagreed with almost everything. He's ever said every single Saturday Paul send. Him To say that the Republicans managed to turn lies into Truth and Democrats don't let me remind him. You can keep your doctor. If you like it, you can keep your plan if you like it or when they went and got bold birdsall and got not he talks about the service there's no greater honor than serving your country checks guys die because a bowl birds off. But yet she lets four of our Americans die in Benghazi. Yeah on the radio and lecture arrest of us. About. A recall he can get on the radio and talk about whatever he wants to thank you for your call tonight and you're lecturing him now so. Whatever, she does have a point about how they're all liars. The right she brings up the Obama lies versus the trump lies says the bush lies versus the Clinton is versus the other Bush lies. Of the Reagan is yeah I don't think Jerome is a stupid man at all I think that he's just partisan blinded that. A lot of our callers partisan obser- partisan on the right jerome is just partisan on the left and all of it as a blindness it's a huge blind spot. It has to do with cognitive dissonance. You know the which is the idea of I. Believe it's one term. Now it's cognitive Stockholm dissonance syndrome. But. Okay. But it's one word. Phrase I've worked one phrase cognitive Stockholm's Disney Syndrome. Okay forwards. And so I think that Jerome is. Honest with you know what he believes, I think he's telling us his truth win when he's here. Yeah and I love getting his calls I mean I'm not I don't think it's. It's not okay to like chastise somebody for having a different viewpoint. Oh. My God. You're stupid. No this. was largely with the Internet is right. Well, I would hope that we can rise above the Internet here even though we are on the Internet were also on broadcast radio and you know we're we're a forum that anybody can call and express themselves whether they're right or wrong, and and it's each individual's. Decision to decide like well, okay I don't like what he said I don't like what she said and Opinion about it, that's the whole point of what we do here, and maybe we get people to think well, and this is probably a good time to illustrate that both opinions of Jerome and Dana are valid whether they're chastising each other or not. There were valid opinions and that's what we need more. We need more individuals with opinions of themselves the evaluate themselves, not the ones that. Are told to have but the ones that they create themselves because you will find the more individual person can be the more unique. Their opinion is all right. 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You can go and join the program at amp dot freetalklive dot com. It's amp amp dot freetalklive dot com. Let's go to your phone calls and thoughts. Sheila is on the line in Michigan she you're on free talk live within an captain kick, ASS my question was no. Since the show about Snowden what your thoughts are in targeted individuals. And microwave auditory effect. Directed Energy Weapons Sonic weapons. ooh. Okay so that's a big topic. You're talking about sonic energy directed energy weapons. So do you mean like our? Well No, I don't I don't know if that's. Part of that is what you're asking. Okay. Because I thought you might have been asking about like there. There's certain weapons that they've. They're certain weapons that they've developed can like mount to the top of a tank or bearcat or something, and it's like a parabolic dish or something like some sort of Reagan that that actually can shoot. Certain types of waves at. Sorry I'm trying to explain what the. The technology referring to is Sheila so that we our listeners can can have some idea of what you're talking about So they direct these frequencies basically at precise protesters. For instance, they can make their skin feel like it's burning I haven't seen any evidence of it, but there was a tale about how they were experimenting with what I call the Brown note. This was low frequencies right emitted towards a crowd for use in crowd control that would cause you to relieve yourself in your pants. Oh God, and so this was called the Brown note and it's referred to sessions as like would a musician hits the wrong note they're like Oh you hit the Brown. Like it took on a character in the musical community to where it has its own phrase called the Brown note. So it takes too much energy to produce that low of a frequency, the lower the frequency, the more energy it takes to effect a crowd in that way but just know that your government has experimented with these things. Yeah. I think that those sorts of things there's a lot of evidence for those actually existing those those technologies. That's like not really a secret whether people know about them or not is another question how widespread the knowledge is is another question but they are there those are real. The stuff like harp? I think that's just conspiracy theory personally. Look up that G.. O. V. Harp. There's Nassar Church. Oh. No. The program existed harp existed it just the conspiracy theory side of it is the idea that it's being used in some way to control people i. think that's ridiculous. I know no, it's not. True. It's A transmitter in Alaska have her many thousands or kilowatt transmitter is old somehow controlling people. He noted, Gwen Tower does art broadened wire or microwave away. I, mean, those are all very technical sounding I'm certainly familiar with microwaves as a transmission technology but I'm not an engineer I have eligible are you an engineer? I did a ton of Research Nineteen, Seventy S. there's a Russian Bible that the Science community uses. To. Define, the symptoms, Mike. Waist. Okay. As, well, as what they do the parade, the WIFI point a microwave it's somebody's brain. It's GonNa. Miss An. That person up there's no doubt about it. But Wi fi is not same technology. What is why fires on Clemson? Broadband is as. If if if the Wifi was the same thing as a microwave which you know there's there are microwaves and then there's like the microwave that you cook your food with I mean we're not exactly talking about. The towers going through everybody into cell phone. That's frequencies audio freelance. A part of. Their right and there are small wave frequencies. Certainly thank you for the call Sheila. Tonight. but it's that's to me. That's like going down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theory to believe that Wi fi somehow a danger to people and I'm not sure we'll phones are bad but she was ultimately getting it but I I can tell you that I do not own a microwave oven. I have not owned one for seven years for the heating. Well, I mean several things right I mean they still haven't perfected like how does not make the center of your Potpie cold now. Even. If you put a cover over it tonight you. Got To move it. So there's that but then there's also I read somewhere that there's some sort of. Nutrition deficiency that occurs when you nuclear food and I prefer to the microwave oven is the new reactor because it's radio, it also introduces radiation to you and your household and well. To the caller's point, we do have a whole lot of radiation in the world generated by a whole lot of technology. So I'm just like I don't think I need anymore radiation. It doesn't take that much longer for me to put a Potpie in the oven versus you put one in the microwave or whatever this kind of thing. So I just choose not to own one because I don't want to introduce anymore radiation I also don't I want the foods that I eat to be fully nutritional. So the difference between a microwave in that, you know one that cooks food versus cell phones for instance is while the frequency range may be similar. So they're using the same microwaves, the power and the direction is very different yet night. So in the case of a microwave, you're focusing a thousand watts in a enclosed space. Versus a cell phone which may have on know a tenth of a wad or something as far as its its transmission power, and it's sort of an Omni Directional. Transmission it's we're talking about two completely different applications of of technology here but that's not to say, they don't have crazy ray guns that they've come out with that can utilize. Different technologies and very damaging ways I just don't buy the whole harp. Conspiracy Theory, do you captain I ever? Heard of it to to think that. The organization known as government has not experimented with these kind of things I think would be a little Not Really. Unrealistic I of course, they have real whether they've actually succeeded is a whole other question. I don't think it's because I've seen enough evidence. Yeah. It's. It's a bunch of poppycock as far as I'm concerned look. The reason why people are so easily controlled is because they've been going to government schools, you don't have to look for some sort of secret program of Oh, they're cooking your brain with. The Heart Program from this big transmitter site in Alaska. No, it's because the government gang runs the educational indoctrination centers and they've got kids in there for eight hours a day for thirteen years. At least if you don't include if you don't include college was and that say brains are cooked. What if like what if like Walmart had your kids for? Eight hours a day for thirteen years and was just like Walmart is the best. That's The greatest store that ever as low prices, right. It's you know what? If they had your kids? What effect would that have on them think about that for me to and now go oh my gosh that's the effect that government schools are having my children except with regard to the organization known as government. Let's go to Jonathan in Wilmington North Carolina Jonathan. You're on Free Talk Live listening I believe to W. R. N. in South Carolina. Myrtle beach go ahead Jonathan. Yeah, you were talking about the NSA spying program on a reformer or legal. Yeah that meant that Snowden is able to come back on no no, no no no needs a pardon for that to happen in prosecuting him for espionage. Also, if I'm Edward Snowden and even if I do get the pardon I, don't think. I'm panel know what I know if he does get the pardon at the very least that would free him up to try likely travel outside of Russia's he might be able to finally make it. I think he's trying to like Argentina or something trying to out he was trying to fly Russia go somewhere I think in South America. They stuck him in Russia because they withdrew his passport or banned from international travel. Travel has been revoked. So unfortunately, the answer there is no Jonathan did you have more to say? None of that was. Thanks man I appreciate hearing from you tonight, the toll free numbers eight, fifty, five, four, fifty free whether you want to comment on the NSA or other things we have to discuss like these new drive in shows and I don't mean movie shows like drive in movie theaters and concert comedy performances, and we WanNa these things last night, we'll get into that coming up here in a bit plus We got something about the GDP. 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And it's just kind of scratching the surface of a big problem. So we'll talk about that your calls and thoughts are welcome though the toll free number is eight, fifty, five, four, fifty free or you can better yet call envious. If you WANNA sound good. If you WANNA sound like you're sitting here in the studio with us just go to WANNA sound silky. Yeah. Really. I mean it's really an improvement over a discord dot L. R. N. dot that's discord dot dot. FM. That'll get you into our discord server, which is not just a way to call in. That's just one feature. It's also way to interact with other free talk live listeners before during after the show and it's free sow discord Lauren FM to the phones to the phone we got David in Kansas Listening Insulin at a K. I N F go ahead David. A good evening. Thanks for taking my call. Shit Yeah. Sure. I Love I. Love this program I mean things programs like one the only programs out there where you can call in and voice your opinion whether you disagree. Off. Then carry on my word son. Well, and that's kind of that's kind of what I want to talk about you know and listening to some of the people talk about you know disagreement and calling people stupid and idiots and ignorant, and and you know really have to say, I believe that people are stupid. As as a general term, people are stupid panicky animals. That a person is smart Interesting, say no I'm Kinda with you. Nobody's dumb as all of us. Right like the wisdom of crowds us or the lack of wisdom. The mob mentality. Yea We're seeing that. Today. In this political environment that we're living in that is being pushed. The mainstream media. And You know. I it just it. Is Driven me to where I no longer associate with. Groups of political people. Regardless of whether they're the same political persuasion I eat little l libertarian. or big L. Libertarians or even Republicans and Democrats. Because simply because I would much rather have a one on one discussion. I had a great one on one discussion with my neighbor who happened for the founding member of. MOMS demand action of their local chapter here in Selena. I'm not familiar rinker station. You know I mean she and I are completely polar opposites. What is What is moms demand action? What is the issue on which they are demanding action? they're demanding action on the end of all firearms in the United States. That's crazy MOMS. Demand action sounds slightly pornographic. Yes. Is this a dating website? Women over thirty five or something yeah. Yeah. Mom Mom I. Think is what it is. Okay. Thanks. But but you know the point is is that Had, you had two groups of individuals. You know whether it's four people, five people, eighteen people. Together. We would not have had. That great conversation they'll be shouting and yelling and you know being standoffish and. That's why they the comment of all people are stupid. Well, an individual is smart es collectively People Act stupidly, and I say that to differentiate the difference between. Smart people and not smart people. There's plenty of smart people in the world who are much smarter than I am. And much smarter than I'll ever be who do dumb things. Sure Right. People claim that some people are like Oh you're smart I'm like I don't really think so but I also do dumb thing. So if are spot on with their analysis of me being smart person I certainly do dumb things on the regular I. Sure. I've done several of them probably within this program today. Well. You GotTa do things and get them wrong in order to hopefully learn a lesson at some point and get it right. Yeah, that's a good point and and just real quick I want to comment on. SNOWDEN. Even if he gets pardon pardon. Do you really the NSA is going to let bill. No well, I don't think the NSA is going to bring charges against him, but I think that what would happen if he got a pardon and actually tried to come back as they cook know the FBI would cook up something and the probably arrest him as soon as he walked into the airport. Yeah I. He's. He's toast. He's toes now. I honestly believe he's probably freer in Russia that he would be anywhere else in the world right in the United States? Even if he got the pardon, she's still be freer Russia. I don't know how old you are, but that's that's a big powerful statement I don't know if it's true to say that he wouldn't be freer elsewhere in the world. I suspect that there are better places to go than what Russia I mean I'm a Gen Xer gen-xer so I've seen I've seen a lot. You know but from what? I from what I've seen the way this country go post nine eleven from pre-nine Eleven. And what I've seen happened with the Iron Curtain Pauling in the way that has gone and what Snowden has done. Ki- like royalty in Russia. Yeah. In case, they should be royalty in the united. States. The collectively, yeah you're right. The people are not smart when it comes to recognition of somebody who did them a favor dental solid absolutely David good call. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Tonight I appreciate it. David there in Kansas as we continue with Robert in Charleston. South. Carolina listening to WTMJ. Go. Ahead Robert. I was listening to the first part of what you said, what you all said with regard to which is a better party for the economy with the beginning of the show. We didn't say anything about that. That was what Jerome called in to ask a question about and he wasn't asking which party would be best. He asked if regarding trump statement about the Democrats from around the turn of the century. But no, I would say that no party is the best party to have. No, no state would be the best way to have good economy that peration of money and state is the only answer. Well complete separation course. have. Drinking. already. The. Point is. But who's got that I was trying to get to anyone who wants it I mean. Well. Yes. Of course but on the other hand, what government wants it not none Whether government wants it all the more reason to have it. The of the economy exists with or without the state and the state only gets in the way of the economy. All the economy is people transacting with other people. That's it. You're you're making voluntary agreements and then using this thing to facilitate value, it's a language, it's communication it's like music. You don't necessarily have to know how to read music or write music to music is the same thing applies to currency all it is is just a language, the exchange of value between individuals. Now, what the government does is it claims the monopoly on the ability to have money. They claim that it's theirs and theirs alone to produce and allow you to use. Now not really I mean, they still allow people to Bitcoin at least I, mean they haven't cracked down having I mean even they can't write. BITCOIN has not asked for their permission, but they could prohibited they could try to. Bitcoin illegal and that would make it a lot more difficult a lot of flood. Increase value could everything that the government tries to do to shut down crypto currency only increases its value which is great. It's it's the complete. Thing the people need. Yeah that's separate the the. Church. Same Difference I'm sorry. Go ahead remember. I'm sorry I finished remember the we had the barter system I, mean kept barter barter bureaus remember that. I'm familiar with the alive for bartered. Bartered I didn't spend much time doing bartering because money has existed in my lifetime. So it's more efficient to use a semi universal go between a medium of exchange. If you will. 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Can bring up anything you want. Toll Free Number Eight, fifty, five, four, hundred, fifty free like freedom. That's eight, five, five, four, five, zero, three, seven, three, three we have the discord call in line rooms over at discord don L. R.. N. Dot an and you know we were going to get into the comedy show thing that we did last wee- attended last night the driving. But since our last caller was bringing up economic issues, why don't you pull up that story cap and if you don't mind about the US economy and there's real bad indicator that is rearing its ugly head yeah. So this is from VOA news. The of America was American news Via News Dot Com, but actually from the. AP explains. The US debt will soon exceed the size. Of the entire economy. The US stat. Will exceed the. So the government debt yes. Will exceed the size of the entire economy for what one year presume. Okay. Meaning, this is the first time that's happened some long period of since the end of World War Two. Okay. So. A more on this spat. It's horrible. If you don't understand what that means standby, I'll explain it to you. The US government's war against the corona virus, which is an accurate description. It's more like the war against people with corona as the excuse. Yeah. Well, sure. The same things through the war on drugs war on people. It's imposing the heaviest strain on the Treasury since America's drive to defeat Nazi Germany and imperial Japan three quarters of a century ago. The Congressional Budget Office has warned that the government this year will run the largest budget deficit as a share of the economy since nineteen, forty, five when World War Two ended. That means next year the federal debt, which is the sum of year after year annual deficits. The federal debt is forecast to exceed the size of the entire American economy for the first time since nineteen forty six. Wow. Within a few years, it's on track to set a new high. So, well, of course, for those of you who are you? Sending. New. Record high every, second. A So for those of you listening who don't let me simplify it for you. The geographic area known as the United States. All the businesses combined generate will call it ten bucks. To make out simple right now, the federal government. Extracts money via taxes. So it takes a let's call it two bucks from the entire country right leaving leaving everybody less remainder. Okay. So they take five bucks take five bucks. Now, what they also do that is then they borrow against future taxation, right? So they borrow in this case another ten bucks. Right exceeding the size of the entire economy that the entire amount of dollars that all of the businesses in the United States produce It's bad. I mean if That is a recipe for hyperinflation. If you've never studied hyperinflation, please go to your favorite search engine I like duck go and type in hyper inflation and start reading on hyper inflation. Guess what coming soon, there was a really interesting story that I don't know if we're ever going to get on the air, but because it's it's lengthy and and really detailed but there's an extra permanent take from it because as relevant here, captain, this is from the Ginkel Voss twins who are the founders of Gemini Crypto currency. Exchange and you know these guys by no means are. Non they like to saddle up with the state they like to cozy up with with state they've asked for permission to run their exchange. All that. So but they've done a really good analysis of the failure of the dollar and the US system, and so here's just a little bit. So it says here from two thousand and nine to two thousand nineteen the US. Debt to GDP ratio GDP being the sort of the production of the economy. Gross Domestic Product. Swelled from eighty-three percent to one hundred and six percent. So as of twenty, nine team. Debt to GDP ratio was one hundred and six percent meaning that the debt. Is. Way More as you're saying here than the production of the economy so that actually happened apparently as of a year ago, post cove, it's on track to hit one hundred and thirty, five percent by September of this year this was written last month. So month right now supposed to be up to one hundred and thirty, five percent. which is huge and to bottom line this the US, debt to GDP ratio will grow more this year than it did over the entire prior decade. So, put that into perspective for a moment i. mean the government has been going crazy for our our lifetimes with spending I mean that doesn't matter. You Know Democrats Republicans they get in there and they spend like crazy whether they tax more or less immaterial you're still spending. Like crazy. So the debt to GDP ratio will grow more this year than it did over the entire prior decade, it's which is crazy and finally China's debt to GDP ratio was three hundred percent entering Cuban and his grown to three hundred, nineteen percent. As of Quarter One, twenty, twenty. So the rest of the world is not faring any better, but it's a race to the bottom. Is What it is and the other thing I wanNA point out and I know we've pointed it out. Well, every time we talk about economics or at least we should point out every time we talked about economics is the money that your government is borrowing is going to be paid back by your children and their unborn children that's not going to be paid by you. So you're literally conscripting Unborn children and saddling them with debt before they're even conceived. Yeah I mean it's It's bad to I'm not going to tell people what to do but I wouldn't wanNA bring a kid into the world in this in this day and age with this crazy co Kovic stuff going on with people being so insane. An antisocial I mean I I would feel bad raising a dog right now because people won't even stop to to pet dogs on the street anymore it seems like it seems like that's how bad things have gotten. From the same article. The annual deficit, which is the gap between what the government spends and what it collects in taxes will hit three point three. Trillion dollars. In the budget year the ends, September thirtieth. That amounts to sixteen percent of America's gross domestic product again GDP, which is the broadest measure of economic output not in seventy five years has a deficit ben that lied, yes. Wider than your mom it's true. MOMS demand action. You might be wide but not as wide as the deficit. Yeah. Well, that's the government for you so. Again Bitcoin well right and I'm glad you brought it back to that. We actually had some comments in our discord server and the on Air Chat Room devoured says that Crypto is nice as a, but it's not a main investment. He says it's way too volatile. Right now. Well I mean we don't know when it's ever going to settle down maybe it never will I mean if it's possible to look at pre-government economies right and we're talking about currencies that existed. Before governments claimed the monopoly on printing it or when it was at least backed by stuff currencies have always been competing in the market has always been volatile. That's the nature of the market. That's how it's supposed to work. You're supposed to have choice in the market you're not supposed to be forced to just use Federal Reserve notes are ants right there should be choice. Each community should be able to issue their own currency. If they want to individuals can issue their own currency there should be no. Government stopping you from doing any of this as long as you have a competitive product, the toll free number. 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Celebrate in the district of Maryland were dismissed with prejudice meaning they can never be refiled. This is especially good because those indictments contain the only charge ever made that Ross engaged in murder-for-hire. This was a serious allegation at roles operate denies it was never prosecuted or Rhode on by a jury Putt was trumpeted by the federal government and the media as if it were proven fact the Maryland Court held these indictments for almost five years poisoning Ross's case and leaving him. Under, a cloud of unproven allegations as explained in Ross's appeal to the Supreme Court. The fact that the judge used these allegations to give her all say draconian sentence of double life without parole violated his sixth amendment right to a jury trial judges required to issue sentences based on convictions decided by a jury, not unproven allegations never even charged it trial although this is a positive development that dropped indictment will not set rolls free. 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So why not you know unless you WANNA keep hiding your beliefs. I get you you know scary world out there. But if you want other people to know then get to liberty dot menu, enlist your stuff. So people can find you. We're going to go back to your calls and thoughts and I think you might have a couple more points that you wanNA share from this story about how dismal things look economically on the horizon and in the immediate future as well. Let's go to Glen in South Carolina listening to WTN and we haven't even talked about all the businesses that are closing permanently this have and I read an article recently that half of the small businesses in San Francisco alone will remain closed permanently San Francisco small businesses. It's also big. Cities all over the place. I. Go ahead. Yes. I just want to let you know that allow businesses down here in south. Carolina. Even open got permission by the Governor says Yo. Of, post be. Behaved adults. Like with masking everything, we got one place in Charleston. This enacting orders you have to have Maskov people just don't. Get it with this thing and need to in that when you say people don't get it. What do you mean? What do you mean by people don't get it Well. They don't go six foot rule. I mean we've seen people today in know line. Getting seafood and they wasn't even six flood it wasn't anywhere masks. How do you feel about that? Does that upset? You make you feel that one bit because I met with soldiers well, and I took an oath to. Foreign or domestic to fight any enemy do me an enemy so for wow, right now, we gotta protect freedom and. When you say you're fighting hold on when you're identifying the enemy, can you be clear with me who you consider the enemy to be? Both Kinda endevours they date viruses the. They're all. Okay. So what is it that you want to do to fight the virus? The World Real Quick Glenn, what do you want to do to fight the virus? Since you consider that the enemy I would have liked and that the vaccine program Oh please at the help people. Are doing that kind of program. We could get normal. What you mean by a vaccine program. Ego to get the money coming in I know that we're. Still going to take it to get. A vaccine is that it too and it. Now, what are you going to do the vaccine? What are you going to do with it? What are you going to do with the vaccine? Let's say you have it. What are you going to do? Well eat aid distributed throughout the world of that. Knock you late what if I don't want it. That's up to you. Who got more sense and getting knocking. So Glenn's Vaccine Program won't be. You won't be forcing vaccines on a people if you were in charge. No okay good forcing anything I. Don't trust the government I wonder Glenn to you think that the vaccine will negate or otherwise defeat it knock out, kill the coronavirus. No actually it won't because the flu vaccine doesn't even kill the flu. That the flu is another form of coronavirus. It'll a leaking it. You know we'll be could save again to go out and about and it's already safe. Yeah I'm plenty safe right now Glenn. Why you're so afraid of what barely even exists from what I can tell there's almost no one who is connected into my life that has even been sick. The CDC even corrected their own numbers to show that just six percent of those who died who they claimed died of corona virus are actually right. So they revised their own numbers to go oops we made a mistake it was only six percent. Of what we claimed earlier. Thank you. Glen for your call tonight I. appreciate it the numbers eight fifty, five, four, fifty free like freedom. That's eight five, five, four, five, zero, three, seven, three yet not interested in vaccine not interested in being told what into my body not interested in being told what put on my body I'm not gonNA wear a mask. I'm not interested in it. Yeah. We were talking during the break and I said something along the lines of the masks are the mark of the obedient. It's true right? It's the same thing as. A, serial number tattooed on your arm. A chip embedded under your skin I know that some of the people are wearing them because they believe in them and others are wearing them because they're afraid of what might happen to them but either way it's obedience and so if you're if you are sick of these masks and you're against the masks, then you really need to start acting like it stopped wearing like if you were wearing a mask before covid, there might be an exception. You know like and you'd see this from time to time I lived on the West Coast and you would see in Chinatown some donations. Yeah. Wearing a mask occasionally for whatever reason whatever Solid right on but their choice and nobody ever made fun of him for doing it that I'm aware of you know they didn't make fun of anybody else thought it was strange. I was over in Japan last year for semi working vacation and I saw it on the streets and it was on occasion yeah. I wouldn't say it was more than maybe a twentieth or one fifteenth of the population or whatever. And I never thought it was like a weird thing. I would never make fun of somebody for wearing masks. So I I don't think there was ever any kind of, I, know that some people like our co host Mark Police there's stigma on people who wore masks prior to this, and he's glad that that stigmas gone I mean maybe maybe. Not Aware of it but okay sure. Let's go to Greg. He's in Daytona Florida listening to WMD be go ahead. Greg. Yes or slap Michael Comment every time I turn around the government is talking about cutting social security benefits. Cutting is the money that goes out of this country to Israel and Egypt and Ukraine. Got Their hand you're right. The majority of the United States budget goes to the military like the entire funding of social security. You know is a tiny fraction of the entire federal budget and his foreign aid. Also you know not insignificant, right right. So so military expenditures are the largest piece of the Pie. It would take nothing for the government to reduce their output of military expenditures by. Ten percent and fund every social program that they have. I agree with that a hundred ten percent. Yeah I mean I'm not necessarily in total agreement I that social security should also be abolished along with the rest of the federal guidance saying that it would be real easy for them to reallocate some dollars and take care of it but they don't they don't. That's right. They use it as a political football during the election season. Yeah exactly. I mean look you can't trust these people. So when they when they say that. It's going to be there for you. It doesn't matter if they're telling the truth or not because there's no responsibility for them. So if a if a congressperson or some other bureaucrats Oh yeah we're gonNA take care of don't you worry we're GonNa take care of you. When you get older we're here for you where's the government but then later it may turn out that nope. nope. We don't have enough money or no. We're going to raise the age of. Retirement, you didn't check the right box. So you're not eligible. You know all sorts of things. So they can do whatever they want, and there's no liability that they have to use. Contract with them for social security and it's not like even if you did had a contract that they wouldn't be able to change it anyway, the government they wrote the thing they really courts so they can do anything they want and the best thing you can do, Greg thank you for your call man I do appreciate it is to prepare yourself and not rely on these people. So what does that mean? 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I'm not going to tell you that I think Joe Biden is a good person I think he's a despicable person because he's a politician and who knows what he's doing with these children but regardless. We captain you just told us that the government's debt is now greater than the entire output. Was it of the United States economy GDP? Yeah. Yeah. So I. Mean Our Archie is that what you're saying is the right direction. Feel worse than to. Hi. Thanks for the call tonight I'm give that caller one sniff. I don't know what he was on the scale of one to fly. We'll. We'll just give him one on the Biden sniffing scale. I don't know whether it was Biden sniffing him or if he was sniffing something but that guy was having a good time. It sounded like whoo eight, fifty, five, four, fifty free like freedom. You can control the airwaves here. Pat Is in northern Michigan you're on Free Talk Live. Or? You're. Well. I'm thinking back to history we're talking about the government feeling fulfilling promises and whatnot how many minority were promised forty eight years in a mill, right? Yeah. Yeah. You you think anybody's still waiting on that Dan forty acres in that Mueller I mean I'll take it if. They know that it's never been delivered while you're. Mentioning these things what about? Some of the lies that were told to the native Americans, they put them on. reservations. and. Then we're promised forty you'll come in. But It kinda tickle Elmo with the democratic. Party chose Jackass where their emblem. Critter. Reproduce itself. That is funny. I never thought about that before. The other ones They claim is the donkey it still takes a donkey to make jackass. Point Pat anything else you WANNA share. That just I just wanted to run that by. GETS POUND I do appreciate it I call actually think the jackass should be the. Animal Symbol for both parties. Jer why not. They suck. They both do. Awful human beings. They're awful. They destroy life through their actions with the state they destroy the the economy they don't produce anything. Oh, they don't do anything like a giant tick just feeds and feeds and grows and grows they stick they stick the American people with a Straw that draws blood. The blood is money your life effort they take from you and then have the audacity to say we'd decide when to do with all of this money that you have no say in Yup and they'll print print more out if they want. To as well, so they don't even have to the system. So insidious, they don't even have to tax you right. They could abolish the income tax tomorrow and just start printing more wildly they seem they wanted to. They just did like a couple trillion trillions and it's not over the years not over yet. We still got three more months of this to go You know. So who knows how bad it's going to be by the time twenty, twenty, twenty, one arrives the toll free number is eight, five, five, four. Fifty three captain was there more that you wanted to share from the AP story on the terrible news about the economy. Yeah. This article just asks a few questions and I'm going to fill in the words that they missed. Okay. When I read through this because I think it's important and then if you want to read this article you listeners, you can go find it on our twitter feed or wherever twitter freetalklive dot com better yet follow us on Mastodon which we're is it not centralized system over at dot. Freetalklive. Dot Com or telegram DOT FREETALKLIVE DOT COM. All that content is the same. So it's up to you prefer. So it asks the question why is the budget so lopsided and it says feeling embellish here the US government was already deeply in debt even before the virus struck in March Yep that's true. Yeah. The budget has absorbed the expensive the of the two, thousand, seventeen, thousand, nine great recession the federal benefits for the retirement of the baby boom generation and the cost of President Donald Trump's two, thousand, seventeen tax cut. Okay ultra. Last year, the debt burden reached seventy nine percent of GDP. The highest since nineteen, forty eight then came the government mandates surrounding the quote pandemic unquote that's interesting to claim there is that the debt ratio is seventy nine percent last year while this article, it was one, hundred six. I wonder how they're measuring these things there's a different measure I think either way to either way whichever set of numbers you choose it's not good. The government mandates caused the economy to tumble into a sickening freefall as businesses were forced to shut down and millions of Americans hunker down at home to avoid violating the government mandates and or infection. So the word forced I'm guessing was not in the original article you a here I'll just read you what I've embellish. Then came the pandemic, the economy tumbled into a sickening free fall is businesses shut down and millions of American hunker down to avoid the infection. Yeah. A lot of as you pointed out under government mandate and the thing is we don't know it would be like if people were ever free to choose in the United. States that didn't happen for the most part here there might be some states that were less crackdown e than than others but. It's been bad. It's supposed to be about choice right freedom. Freedom. You would be able to choose means choice. I should always be able to choose in any situation and that freedom has been taken away from you courtesy of the organization filled with thieves and murderers called government. I'm mean we got a guy in our twitter chat Tony from revere. He says that the three hundred dollar fine in his city for walking in public with no mask. So I don't know if. He's in I. Don't know if it's one of those says there's two different sort of enforcement types that are going on out there. There's the what's happening here in New Hampshire where it's like, they say that it's a it's an order and you have to follow it but they're not actually finding anybody apparently like in Nashua, there's a ordinance that naturals the city and you after there's an ordinance that requires mass with thousand dollar no one has been issued said fine as which Vietnamese no, one can challenge. That in court necessarily, if they haven't actually been been fighter, it's not as easy to challenge. All of these laws are difficult to enforce. Right we know that there are so many laws on the books that they can't even be counted I. Mean it's not that difficult to enforce this law count then I mean they're doing it at Miami for instance, where they actually have thirty nine or something they focused on I'm just saying that that enforcement of all of the laws is very difficult enforcement of certain laws not so difficult, right? So it depends on where they put their effort with the force part of enforcement, our toll free number is eight, fifty, five, four, hundred, fifty free like freedom. That's eight, five, five, four, five, zero, three, seven, three, three we have the discord call in line rooms and a full hour to go here on his live Saturday edition we'll get into the story I really started our experience of going to one of these derive in show round three. Yeah our three coming up free talk live remember when you first heard about bitcoin. How long did it take you to realize this little project would soon change the world the you kind of wish you had gotten involved sooner. 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The studio tonight as we kick off the third hour of this live Saturday episode it's me and me the captain we will go to your phone calls and thoughts. In fact, we're going to go to discord I up. In this hour because that is where well a gentleman is waiting patiently but also that is where you can sound way better than if you call in on the phones now, I, know that it doesn't matter to you how you call in and you know whatever's the easiest method is probably the best one. But if you don't mind if you like to call in Talk Radio, I would like it if you are calling our discord lines because it's just sounds better it just it's easier to listen to more pleasant as a listening experience to hear somebody that. They're not on the phone and has a more full 'cause the phone's cut out. You're like certain parts of voice wavelengths voice and it's a very narrow band that you hear. And its surrounding one K. One thousand hurts if you will. That's the most sensitive your ears are that ridiculously low frequencies on everybody loves the base when they go to the concerts and shows you feel it right it can't be reproduced over in an analog telephone line. We can hear you better if you're on our discord serves so go to discord dot. Dot FM. If we have a better time listening to you, that means he might stay on a little longer it might mean so our listeners will listen longer. So it's good for everybody discord dot. Dot FM and it also means if you're calling internationally, it costs you nothing grandma. So that's why we've got our next caller calling from Switzerland where it is What is it like two or three in the morning their time? Is it right now where you are Fabien. Three Am. A. M. Thanks for staying up late with us what's on your mind tonight? After listening to all the stuff you guys have been doing with the lockdown and south and. It has been returns. You know like a in the United States. Yes. He in Switzerland we had like a seventy lockdown only semi. Okay. Does that ain't? We didn't take all this much of this precautions. You know in March, we closed down or stars stuff really but yeah, we did. Yeah. And when you say close down the stores, what about like grocery stores or places where people? Yeah Crochet Grocery, stores were still open they were okay. What about restaurants where restaurants closed their a close they were. Okay. And then. Also, my main grief with all these measures. They took. Goes it only affected small businesses. and. Just recently arrested like the German. A. Ministry of Interior's Y- span he's called. and. He said it was a mistake what we did. Really. Yes. That's what he said. Oh. Yeah how many businesses have closed permanently where you are captain you're telling us that San, Francisco it's something like half the businesses who closed are closed patently small businesses specifically ask own it's only small businesses and this is what what? Gives me a main big gripe. Makes Angry no. 'cause all the stuff only affect small businesses. No. These big corporations I mean, that's not to say that are there won't be some big corporations that are going under I mean certainly, for instance, JC Penney as an example of this right now here in in Keene, which is where we are here in New Hampshire this. The store here is closing the entire chain has gone bankrupt were they closing pre covid? That's the thing is there's a lot of businesses that were sort of on the edge and then cope was the situation the crackdown from covert the government crackdown pushed him over the AD. So like a lot of newspapers that probably would have gone out of business eventually are going to go out of business sooner. JC PENNEY PROBABLY WAS GONNA go bankrupt but now they went bankrupt already So it's sort of accelerated that process to some extent but you're certainly right. It's the small businesses that are you know they're not sitting on huge nest eggs of billions of dollars in real estate or whatever they can tap into. And know you have. Lead US now. Politics now and. The last use of that I saw was Nancy Pelosi, she went into a hassle. Actor after she made them close. I heard about this but by just WanNa clarify something I don't consider these people to be leaders okay. They are politicians which means they're scum and they shouldn't be trusted they. Realize that. They shouldn't be leading anybody lead you know. You know this situation which we have, and this is what we have. You know there are leaders if we don't agree I disagree they're. Not Leaders leaders look. If leaders, then people would follow them voluntary. You agree on that. You know. But but. They're a leader. What a leader does is they set the example. Of course. But the big credible hypocrisy. Behind that, it's just amazing. It's just oh yeah. With with Pelosi showing up at the the barbershop alone in a closed barbershop getting taken care of. It's crazy. Same like off with. For example me myself. With protests stuff. I agree with people protesting Y. You you will should always opinion. Yes. That's great stuff. You know, but then go on and like. Try To. More people for the same thing. Because they say like, Oh, it's a pedantic don't protest and then do the same thing come on. Right now in twenty twenty this incredible hypocrisy it's crazy. It's. Crazy time I mean, it is just so frustrating out there and I think there's a lead into our next conversation. Pretty well, thank you for the call tonight I appreciate it and appreciate you again you stay up late there. Let's let's. Think Awesome. So we go to Jerry in Charleston West, Virginia listening to W. S. on the FM side. Go ahead Jerry. Jerry. Do we have Jerry Charleston West Virginia. Jerry. Wants Jura. Jerry going to come in standby Gerald. Will you back on hold maybe there's something shepherd to las sheep shepherds sheep come in she could be some technical difficulties there so Captain we did something last night that was unusual in that God did a few different ways long haired yellow shirt guys still bugging me. Let's talk about that and who that was and what we did do you want to? Introduce this. Yes. Oh as you. May. Be Aware of. Basically all forms of entertainment have been stifled. If not ended completely, there are some people who are trying to figure out that his innovate away around that, and here in New Hampshire at least there's a production company doing these drive in productions at the at the fairgrounds which we had heard about these things over the summertime. Concerts Blue Easter called play a couple of other cover bands, tribute bands, that kind of thing. But when we talked about it over the summer, it was happening in other cities elsewhere and right and our general response to it was like lay. Lane for me as a guy, you're you can't have a middle show that a mosh pit certainly, not I mean unless they suddenly combine like a demolition. Derby. And a heavy metal show actually that might be an idea. spiring promoter out there might not be a horrible idea but so they've had. At the fairgrounds I'm also a comedian for those who don't know, you can hear some of my work at L. Captain Kick Ass Dot COM I do I'm like the cussing heavy metal version of Weird Al? And that kind of thing. So I as a comedian, I like to support other. COMEDIANS and Jim Breuer. Is a comedian who has been around for thirty years. He's also a self professed heavy metal comedian. He loves heavy metal he listens to it and that kind of thing. So identify with them and I followed his career pretty closely and they denver is coming to town, and so you through some other folks radio able to alert us to this and we got we went to the show and that's where we're and what we're about to talk about is this show. Now I had heard because I talked to somebody met in a restaurant that went to one of the driving concerts. Promoter the same place and he said that, yeah, it was pretty relaxed. It was more like a party. You basically pay for the car not for a ticket and you get to parking spots you park in one of them, and then you get your lawn chairs and your your cooler out and you just sit down and enjoy the show it was more of a party environment and so that's why we went. Yeah. That sounded really good to me like it sounded like Oh. Cool. You could just go and have a good time and there's not gonna be a bunch of people hassling you about some stupid ass rules. We'll get into that coming up here moments a fifty, five, four, hundred, fifty free like freedom disappointedly wrong on away it's free talk live. Free Talk Live is aired on nearly two hundred radio stations throughout the week, and we've been doing this for almost eighteen years. 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