20 Episode results for "Christina Applegate"

Courteney Cox, Christina Applegate

Ellen on the Go

31:03 min | 1 year ago

Courteney Cox, Christina Applegate

"Hi IT'S ELLEN DEGENERES. Welcomed with my podcast. We're GONNA listen to some of the best moments from the show and it's going to be hosted by four producers that I love happy listening on today's episode of Illinois Ago. We had all about mothers day the Mother's Day. Show Courtney Cox shows us why she's such a great friend also a great mother's Day Guest Christina applegate is here Ellen's friend Christina. Applegate whose daughter hijacks for phone sex with Ellen. And Oh this this fedex. Driver he was the coolest guy also an er doctor who was working at the first hospital to have a reported case of Kobe. Nineteen and then almost died from it. Latest Yup yeah in the United States in Seattle Washington and does our show and We're going to give everything from the mother's Day show to five first time pregnant. Hod cast listener at its. I'm Mary Connolly. I'm Andy Ladner on the second and my dogs have worms. No I don't know it's very common with. Yeah I've had it. It was something from the front yard. They ran out there awhile. They probably all anyway. Welcome everybody welcome everyone. They probably Andy and I had a whole thing. I wanted to talk about and then I. It's the worms Alex let's talk about. I was GonNA talk about how we're going to give away everything in for my mother's Day to five first time pregnant MOMS who also listened to the podcast. Oh I was GonNa talk about how worms can get transferred from dogs to humans but that sounds better go ahead. I'm just wondering if if it's too narrow a field for US Mary. You underestimate us. You underestimate the power of this podcast. Oh yeah brilliant minds coming together to tell you. The podcast pecking order. Okay Okay sure. It goes that my favorite murder right. Yeah then it goes That one was Jon. Favreau that Yeah Pod pod across not save America and then US. Oh the order right now. Super taxes is armed water back. Did you take you take the crime? Take control check out true crime. Podcast takeout politics podcasts. We're number one. We're number one and a lot of people were calling us the premier entertainment podcast if you take out podcast with over five subscribers where one of the top one impressed. Let's question grow. Porsche listens we know Porsche listens to this. You think. She's actually a subscriber now. We wouldn't put her name on this and I'm GonNa promising listener. That Porsche is not driving to and from work. Yeah he's not listening purple now am I? And she loves US. And shows the podcast. Don't see where I don't I just don't see it fitting in. Yeah into her day right now. Sure loss it's her loss because the numbers have been really growing. I've been getting a lot of information from a former manager. Our management company since WHO's our management company. I'm just curious podcast guys dotting and and I've been getting some numbers. Yeah we don't share. It's like Netflix. Share all our numbers. Right let's just say there's there's been there's been some growth high figures no but we have. We have added to three regular listeners. Whoa like I'm talking about people who are listening on Tuesday and on Thursday we've attitude to three listeners. Casters when you've only had four to start you're talking about almost one hundred percent growth and I think I'm credible at something to brag about by the way we won the people's Choice podcast award. We may have ourselves. We want it people's choice podcast entertainment. I'm fairly certain that was some kind of clerical error. We can we can ourselves all we want. But it was the people's P. E. P. L. Van De for an award show choice pot. You read the word pointed listeners. What we've done here with Andy and friends is a safe haven for you. We've created a place where you can come. Listen where you can come and get inside the heads of the creative forces behind the Ellen Degeneres. Yeah you want you. Won't you can't even finish your couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. You WanNa hear about your wigs. You WanNa hear about worms. Want want to care about the little hair. Men's but crack. This is zero careless subscribe. I I need to hear this from our listeners. Ear wigs at Ed's house. Is this something that you guys are being affected by. Ed is sweeping up ear. Wigs bide the dust full thousand per day. All I was forced to learn what an ear wig was. And it's not a great photo if you're going to look and second of all to have that many so if you know anything about earaches and and you also know Ed is a is a is a huge animal lover so we don't want to exterminate them. We just want them to find a new home. Let's you love. I Love Bird Dog at Cam. You've had every criticism ear wigs there not not a thousand of them Modesto. If anything about your wits please write to us and tell us how and why this is happening at Glavin House. And maybe and now the move next to an ear WIG FARM. That might have been the help handy with either lead to how was it just keeps circulating in my around around. No but here's an honest question in La. You've say anything like Kevin. Kevin will say. Oh my God I just cracked a window. One of US will go. Oh I have a good window guy guy. He's there near your wig die. And that's a great question because if there is I haven't found him it's be the airway because we have exterminators exterminators but for some reason your wigs. So if you know in your wig guy please let us know my mother's Day. We did other stuff. Oh my God what others. So Mother's Day without having an audience full in-person pregnant first time mothers. It was so bizarre it was one of our regular season me. I have to say I had a moment of sadness that day when we were doing. Now as you'll see we did a mother's Day show we gifted moms Galore but we didn't do it in person and to say after seventeen years to have that audience full of expectant MOMS. There is no other thing that we do every year. That feels like feel so good. It feels so good couple. We've got twenty five time pregnant. Moms ASSUME CONDITION WE DID A. We have great us. It's just I missed that many people as possible. Yes exactly but you know some of the things we normally with our show is we put we take a video wall and we'd put in photos of all the newborn babies from the previous year's. Mother's Day show go all these babies were in our audience last year. You know and now here they are and then we usually. The trick is at the end of the show. We give away a stroller and when we give away the stroller. Open the doors and Staffers come out with their schedule Kit yet. And that's always a really nice MoD Miss sort of all those little moments of of a fun things to do but it was. It was unbe gift. It was fun to gift. Yes these MOMS it was miss. We miss seeing them in person. Here's a little bit of our mother's Day show that we did. 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Plum organics is donating one hundred thousand dollars to no kid hungry. This will help feed kids during closures and all year long. They won't be Cya based eight hundred car. Seat is functional safety thoughtfully designed. Hopefully they'll quarantine will be over soon. We'll all start going places again. You're all getting the sides. Infant car seats. Thanks very happy. Their emotional couple of them are very happy. And by the way props to the props to the brands this us who's still step up knowing. It was going to be different knowing that it wasn't going to have the same energy stuck with us and provided hundreds and hundreds of those pieces of equipment strollers and car seats in that. That's that's Stoke Chair and everything everything you need. Yeah an Amazon gift cards and it was really cool. Yeah it was. It was terrific. And Courtney Cox Courtney Cox was our lead guests on the show that day as true and and was away and very honest. Appearance described her quarantine self as filled with rage. She she she had allowed to say she was she was. She was lovely but she was honest. She had very good friends. Who who contracted coded nineteen that was super scary and she she talked about that and I remember it there. Okay they are okay they both. They both survive She talked about Corentin ing with her her teenage daughter and with that was like you know she talked about how the friends reunion didn't happen when it was supposed to because it was right It was right at the time of shutdown or something like that. I could tell you everything she said. But why don't you listen to it right? The right from Courtney. Here's a clip courtney. So you're here for the mother day show first time moms. What kind of advice do you have for them first? Time okay Sleep while you can and When you have the baby be careful with the kind of you buy them. Because cocoa she was obsessed with the Princess I got her the nicest one it was most comfortable in. I literally have not seen her sets. That's all good advice. Good strong advice now. Johnny's not quarantining with you right. It was supposed to go to Switzerland to write and instead he had to go to England first and then all of a sudden that it happened they called a Corentin so I have not seen him so long. You don't realize that we spend a lot of time on facetime but now it's like. Oh my God I just missed his physical touch all of it. It's really it's been hard. This is the one time So the corona virus. I didn't realize this because you know. We've we've texted back and forth but you actually had your friends who were staying with you. Contract Cohen Yeah. Okay so I've had two friends day here. We all we we. Actually we were all safe. Everything was okay. They left for three days. And in those three days they both got copen and one was completely a symptomatic and the other it took him down he had he came back to the house. They didn't realize we're all here. I mean very close. I mean I've never been so close to me. It was right with him. I didn't realize because we thought we were all safe and it turns out that he had to go. He had symptoms three days later three days after that he was in the hospital on a ventilator Caen shut down this is very young athletic guy and it's just crazy all it can hit some people and his husband completely asymptomatic now. My friend is out of the hospital and it was a miracle it really was but it it was scary. Wow GIF is love. We teeth at the top of this podcast that we're going to give away five of everything right now we're gonNA give away five packages of everything. We gave away on the most show to pregnant. Podcast lists now pregnant for sure. Guess should we? Is there any kind of gimmick you WANNA put on this you WANNA use Hashtag? What do you WanNa do think? Let me think let me think about it. Think about We lose Andy Go WIFI by bye. Let's talk about him. Well he's not here. Okay what do you WANNA say? Well we can make our contests with the Hashtag about. Andy will ever know that this happened. That's so if you would like to win these mothers day gifts just tweet. Us or Instagram us with the HASHTAG. Andy is not the father. I hope Gosh I love that. And you submit a picture of your little baby bump you can submit a picture of your nursery. It's ready to go. Anything shows that you're currently expecting with the HASHTAG. Andy is not the father. I hope got it this. This is why Kevin Good Lung. Where are you going to Kevin because his mind is devious but it said with such a sweet toned that you just need sure now? Big Smile. Big Sur former Ellen. Degeneres Joe's now. Liz fell against sex at loose film. It I do as Liz. Feldman was a writer on our show for a of years And then she left and she did a couple of other things and then most recently wrote for two broke girls Lilly. She created the starring Christina applegate and. Linda Carlini Nj on our show and James Morrison who is who is an upcoming guests on our show. But what did you say can? We'll that is kind of what I wanted to say. Except that I was the writer assistant when she started and We wrote one of my very first monologues. Ellen did with Louis Feldman and close friends to this day and what I love is that it was a very hard decision for her to leave but she didn't burn any bridges. She's still very close olive. God I apologize. I got knocked off Wi fi as Andy's back as he can't and back we never back. Were you talking about me? Would I'm guessing you guys stopped the podcast center up the story about Louis Feldman? Oh sorry tell the list smell. My friend lives Feldman. Who created dead to go. Tell the young she just like Ellen texted her when the show came out she takes Ellen about this show and then of course ellen falls in love with the show because Liz genius and the show if you watched it is so brilliant and so brilliant Ellen Guide to see season two for all of us which I do. Not Think is fair. No it doesn't seem fair. These loving Shit just gets better and better in their some spoilers. She's teasing us so I cannot wait to watch it. But here's a little bit of Christina applegate talking about her time identity. It's been nine years since you were actually on the show. I love it dead to me. It is the best show and this is the second season. That just went up on Netflix. But the first season if you have you have to start from the beginning to you know what's going on but explain to people what it's about show is about Two women who are going through trauma in their lives and they they meet in Greece group. And if you haven't watched the first season I can't really tell you much more than that. Well that's good enough because it really once you get into it and it goes in so many different places and Liz and I'll say this over and over again with everybody that is on that show Liz was a writer on our on my show on the talk show and she was so funny and I hated to lose her but she created this and it got bought and she left us but she is such such talented girl. And I'm so proud of her and I'm so happy for her that she has a success. Because it's it's a really smart funny clever show. She's a smart clever funny woman. And that's why I did it. Well you you made a good decision for when you met meal. Y- almost reboots popular right now. Do you think that married with children would come back? I can't especially with the Corona Fifteen. I can't fit in those outfits ever again like that. Would you were partner. That dress right there. Be a leg warmer on me right now. That's where we're at. Look how young Ed looks. I mean that of of everyone else. How long ago was at thirty years or some crazy on well. We'll take a break. Andy I'm going to take a break. That's what I said all right break. We're gonNA take a break. Can we talk about the Fedex driver? Ed Tell them about the Fedex driver. We had on our show with my love. The Sky so his name is Justin. He is a fedex driver. So these guys and women who are FEDEX DRIVERS? Are you know they're like they're putting themselves? In harm's way to get stuff delivered like they. We is the Kobe nineteen on packages. We don't we don't really know enough about it yet to to declare their jobs completely safe and yet they're doing it and this guy to now. This guy has a daughter. Justin who was born as what he believed. Described as a micro preemie so super super tiny little girl and she was born and so she's immuno-compromised because she's still really young and now he saw a sign on the door and he was living a package that led him to disinfect. The package he was leaving before he walked off. The porch is not in their job. Description to disinfect. Every box before they dropped right this this that sign said that there was a child living in that home who is immuno-compromised. And so he does this and then he leaves he does. He expects nothing in return. He doesn't expect to ever hear I'm sure he had no sense that he'd ever hear anything about it again. Except that the woman who who owned the home where he was dropping off? The package had a ring doorbell. Type thing a security camera on the front of her house and she saw him disinfecting that package and she thought it was so sweet and thoughtful that this guy did that that she posted it and then the guy's Justin's wife saw and she posted on her instagram. And then we got a hold of it and we wanted to meet him just like a really sweet guy who wasn't attempting to go. In fact the asked his wife not to post it on her social media because he just like. This is what I do. You know this is just this is just what I do and and it's not what everyone does. It was a small but very significant act and and then Alan surprise them on zoom like they didn't know it was going to be heard they resuming with and it was so the whole thing was just super sweet and they have They have a couple of kids and they you know they could use like a lot of us will boost so ellen rocked his world while the irony was we were fed. Xing him a twenty thousand dollar debit card from green dot and it ended up going to grandma's House but Ellen had a backup one in In her in her home where we're doing show and I don't know I'm not describing it as sweet as it is gonNA listen to take a listen just in. Tell everyone what exactly happened. You go to the house. You're doing your job. You're going to deliver a package and we're is on the door and be on some of the no and learning media someone inside was high risk and immediately. Arba my my daughter Nola. Who's actually Michael Rory? And who was born like a little over one power just having a higher challenge own. He was basically doing what he does on a day-to-day basis. You know they just caught on camera. Decide what a sweet guy just and so now and it turns out your friends with with those people that you become friends. Almost like carrying Ama- are their family are amazing. Like we talk and Rene. That's so sweet. You wouldn't have gotten to know these people if we weren't in this kind of situation so to to make new friends Because of this horrible situation wherein is is Pretty Special Justin? It's your turn to receive a packet. So what I want you to do. Is I want you to get your porch and go. Get the box there. But don't open it. Sorry the box was. We have a forwarding address. So we're not apartment. It goes to my grandmother's house. Your grandmother is in for a big tree. Uncalled for you to open the box. It's twenty thousand dollars. Oh unlimited count from green dot. Bank is all about helping people save for the future. They want you to put some cash back in your pocket. So they're giving you twenty thousand dollars your now. Ellen told you to US thank you I mean come on. I know that such a sweet such a sweet guy. It's just like the point is there's goodness in this world. It's a really dark time. Everybody you know everybody's chosen Sti- politically and people are protesting. Open up the country in all this different stuff and this guy is just going about his business trying to be a decent guy and it just the so. I love stories like that. We sure do so. We had a backup debit card there because even though we were there was a timing thing that happening we do. If you watch our show. Over the years we we can execute things with like exquisite timing We do a lot of stuff. That's based on timing but none of us are in the same location right now so we were just a little paranoid that we were gonNA. We're GONNA Fedex this thing and it wasn't GonNa get there you know. He hasn't immuno-compromised daughter. Would if he wanted to disinfect it before he brought it in house and we just weren't one hundred percent. Sure it was GONNA go the way we wanted it to go so he brought a backup there just to be safe. And by we I really mean and designer who's just a Rockstar and me. I mean meet and the producer and the producer car hogan who wanted to make that monitor to make sure that everything was taken care of and and so supervised and so when it became clear that he was not coming back with the package that we sent them scrambling to get a backup check. There's this great. Is this just a great segment? I thought yeah I love doing stuff like that. And we're going to do. I'm so glad we had and by the way if you do watch the show and you probably do if you listen to this We're GONNA make our plans to do is to do everything we can in the remaining month and a half of our season two on people who are who are trying to make a little bit easier for people who are going through this yet we sure are envy And we got to interview an ER doctor from Washington state who ended up coming down with Cova nineteen As he had been treating people with cove in nineteen and was at the hospital where the first case in the United States had occurred And it was it was such you know. They always say how doctors are the worst patients and he was sort of working through not feeling great. Just thinking he just wasn't feeling great and A coworker called his then fiancee and said you know I'm worried is. The doctor's name was Ryan paget. He goes. I'm worried about Ryan Keep an eye on him and the fiance decided that he wasn't doing great and should go to the hospital and took him to the hospital an eight hours later he was on a ventilator fighting for his life and there was an article. I believe is in the New York Times talking about sort of the extraordinary methods that they did to try to figure out how to help this guy and it you know he's just like your average guy he's just like your average guy doctor who has gone off to work every day taking care of people and he not this thing And they ended up giving him an experimental drug that ended up saving his life and all he can do now is wait to. He just can't wait to get back to work So that he can help more patients and he married his fiancee. You got he recovered after I think. Thirteen days on a ventilator and One of the first things he was able to do was was get married. Desperate us we seem seemed to make everybody really really happy at. Here's here's Ryan paget and his now wife talking to Ellen. You are an ER doctor. You're exposed to all kinds of things and you were kind of like. I'm not going to acknowledge this. I'm not gonNA pay attention this. I'm not sick. When did you realize oh? I'm sick the first couple of Asia smiled. And then you know certain fevers and a dry cough and you realize something was happening. So so you're you're dealing with that and then Connie you weren't there right so what. What did the doctors tell you? When you got admitted Thursday night they said. Do you WANNA say your goodbyes. When he mean. I didn't realize I couldn't stay with them. I didn't realize the hospitals in general visitors in so I actually went home about five. Twenty one in the morning on Friday. I got the call that said he was going on the ventilator so the reality was hitting. It was very terrifying. Yeah I I. I can't imagine because it's so helpless that you can't be there. I mean you his family. Was You know the doctors and nurses that that were there? They were the ones And they WANNA say hello. Hi everybody thank all of you. I mean we we all know that people are struggling Everybody on the front line is trying to get the PB equipment so shuttle flight cares about supporting doctors and nurses. They're gonNA make a twenty thousand dollar donation in your name to get. Us P. P. E. DOT org. I'm so glad we had this time. Oh guys I hope you all have a great weekend off nursing you all a happy happy and hopefully All of you are safe and healthy and aren't being personally affected by anyone having covert nineteen and a few. Do we send so much. Love Your Way and if you're Yes if you were if you were if you were struggling with this we we send your strength and If your if your family is struggling if it we are we are sending our love that our strength to everybody is this is. It's it's hard going through this time if you're healthy We hope everybody is able to be employed and gets to work And if there's someone who sick will then I just can't imagine how hard that must be to be going through this. So we're sending art worth actually. Sorry it's possible possible. We did. But this weekend's mother today now that's right. Get Your cards in the mail today. Order your flowers so happy mother's Day to all you others out there Myself to you. Mary my thank you Kevin. Mary Flint. Mama your beautiful girls and what a great example they have you and he blew his couldn't agree more. Thank you thank you happy. Mother's Day Mommy. He doesn't listen but still subscribe today on Apple podcasts. Wherever you get your podcast spotify. I don't care where listen. Just make sure he listens. And don't forget to watch ellen days for eating Merill Porsche Porsche. I win every time Kevin. No Kevin dedicated his mother's Day weekend to you a chunk. 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Christina Applegates Brutally Honest Parent Confession Will Make You LOL

On Air with Ryan Seacrest: The Post Show

05:08 min | 4 months ago

Christina Applegates Brutally Honest Parent Confession Will Make You LOL

"Airplanes here on kiss. Fm before we pay a bill let me grab the multifaceted and talented christina applegate christina. Good morning good one ryan. You know. I don't know. I never know it just depends on the day but why even ask the question anymore at this point. Look for signs of goodness signs of hope. Things are going the right direction. That gives me a little relief. And to that point christine. I apologize for bothering you with this. So you know when you have a dream like we we we dream and then we come right into this job so when we have a vivid dream the first thing we do is normally talk about it here and the other night. I'm i must have gotten into some good sleep for a change. And i'm sleeping and sistani here had just had her vaccine at dodger stadium so i have this very vivid detail dream of me going down to get my vaccine which i have not had yet. I'm not eligible yet. But when i am i will and i show up at dodger stadium sunday morning. Sun is rising zabit cool outside no line drive through the cones i pull up. The nurse says hey. Do you have a place an apartment in miami. I said why she said christina applegate was here and she's doing project there and she wanted me to ask you and i said wow that's great. And then she she goes here. Here's the script so she had me a script of the project. You're doing in miami. And she said. Do you want me to get back to her or do you wanna get back to you about your apartment. So i don't have an apartment. She one of us should tell her. And then i woke up. Are you doing something miami. No do you think. I wanna travel right now crazy. I haven't traveled outside of my room in a year. Right now i like. I just wanted to share what it means. I guess we need to go on. Vaca- go somewhere. We need to go to a beach or something. I guess it means two things one these three things one. We get our vaccines when we can to. We got to keep working on something and three. We should definitely be going to a beach. I think i think all those things are true. And i yes i haven't gotten mine either. Yes so I haven't been on vacation or to a beach or to store in a year. So yahoo story here. Yeah well look. I had jessica simpson was on and they played a clip of the music video. We were in way back in. Oh something oh my god you remember that. Yeah roller skating or something right. Yeah you're in the back of the limo. I was the driver. And then i said something. She's and then. You're like turnaround turnaround and drive. Maybe that was the catalyst that was days ago though. But maybe that was why you in my head. Walkway always like the power of suggestion dreams. You know you see trash on the ground in your dream like your well. Paper is the trash you know. I like sissies analogy. We could really trace it back to it. Could be your subconscious ryan connecting christina applegate to married with children. And then not. only that. i feel like christina. You've done so many Projects were that involves you know. Don't tell mom the babysitter's dead or bad mom's married with children so kind of dislike frames. We're saying frameworks out owing for you. Getting married and having children one day ryan. I really takes a leap farther leaves. No they're desperate. Now yeah there. There's a you know they think at some point i should get married and have kids would send a different conversation but is actually pregnant with a baby girl. So we're very excited right now. I am but listen for marriage and the kissing overrated. Don't go on this conversation. Green bought by tanner all about five minutes ago. Like screaming going around. You know it's overrated. Just stay that's that's good advice. All right well listen. We'll get back to running away from your kids Thank you for more below deck and probably fall asleep. So that's what. I think is really provocative. So enjoy talk to you soon. Thanks bye bye to. She's the best love her. We were in that music. Video called a public affair jessica simpson. Here's the song hits the you're the limo driver. I am back in one minute to pay. A bill will pay them all day. Long here kiss.

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Christina Applegate, Actress

No Limits with Rebecca Jarvis

31:32 min | 2 years ago

Christina Applegate, Actress

"Hey, everyone. It's me Rebecca I'm currently on maternity, leave. And while I'm away we picked out some of our earlier episodes from the no limits vaults that you can get caught up and enjoy, while I'm off and just see, you know, I- prerecorded this. So I actually am spending time with my baby right now. Every time they would call me about it. I'd get this like sharp pain in my stomach. And in my chest, and I was like, oh, no, the my soul saying. No, it's saying no. Now, it would have been amazing for us financially for my work for whatever for her to see that. Mommy, does this. But I was like, oh, no, my body's saying, I said, no, and they're like you're kidding. And I'm like I gotta hang out with her for the summer. It's too important to me. From ABC. It's no limits. I'm Rebecca Jarvis in each week. We're talking to the most bold and influential women Lang at the top of their game trying to demystify success. And what it really takes to get there and all the trade offs. Whether you're looking for answers, or you just want to hear a good story. You're in the right place. On today's episode Christina Applegate has built a decades long career in the entertainment industry. She's performed on Broadway on television, of course on Phil bas. Well, and it all started out before she could even speak really as a little baby it started. And she's been working ever since on this episode we talk about why she decided to take a step back from the spotlight. What she's learned about herself along the way and her favorite role yet. Christina applegate. Welcome to no limits. Thank you. Thank you. I'm a real fan of you and your work, and your story. You started acting so young. I was you're a maybe I was yes, you can't really call it acting as a baby. Yes, I was on camera from the time of, you know, three months old until the last couple of years where I've taken time off. I watched you a lot when I was a kid Kelly Bundy, I secretly watched you actually, my parents wouldn't let me watch. My dad was holding, and as a kid, which now seems so it wait. No, it's like silver, spoons, basically, compared to everything else on television. Exactly. Do you remember what is your earliest memory of acting? Gosh. I think my earliest memories were when I would my mom would put me in the plays that she was in because she couldn't afford a babysitter. So I would end up being in these plays who's part of this theater group. And so that's those are the first some of the first memories I have as being on stage in these little plays. Did you instantly like it? I you know what I think they like they lured me onto stage like Eminem. So, yeah, I sat there, I think in eight Eminem's, and then said something here and there, but yeah, I did I, then I was in another play an independent of her later on noise about ten years old. And I really loved that your mom is an actor and was a really pivotal part of your life growing up. Did you ever think about any alternative path, you know? No, I didn't really because it was such a natural just it was the way life was it you know, I had to go on on dishes. I would go to on dishes with her on her auditions. And that was just sort of. What life was? I remember being thirteen and, and saying, I really don't wanna do this anymore, and I had like my head was all shaved. And I was going through that moment. And I said, I just don't wanna do it anymore. I to be able to hang out with my friends. I don't wanna go to additions after school. And she goes, okay? And I went upstairs and I got really sick to my stomach at the thought of it, and I came down. And I said, okay. Actually a change my mind, I still want to do it. And then I started booking jobs, and I literally have not stopped working since I was thirteen which is when that happened. I like God on a series, then got on another series and got on another series and this, and then which was married with children. I've been working since I was thirteen completely straight without a break. If you were starting now as an actor, oh, God. I'm so sorry to everyone who starting now as an actor. I mean you can't you can't do anything. I mean we got away with everything when I was a young teen. We did you could do anything and no one knew about it. There wasn't paparazzi. There wasn't. Phones, there weren't enough nothing like that. I feel so bad. I feel so bad for this generation. It's it just seems so much more difficult so much more complicated. Even if you weren't being followed by people with their phones. The pressure to constantly share your own story, and make it an interesting story in the fact that I've heard that directors. Or maybe it's more the production side of things. Bill actually make choices about actors based on how many people follow them. No, I that's true. I, I had a friend who's, who's, you know older like myself, you know, and it's been in this business longtime, and she said these words to me, and I'm probably paraphrase. And she goes, oh, yeah. So by agent wants me to get an Instagram. So just to support my brand, and I went did you I was that? Did you to speak a different language? I don't even understand what you're talking about, because I don't have an Instagram or anything like that. I have like my Twitter that I have for work. And that's. And also to read my news. You know, whatever. All the fake news that I love to read, but as a wait, they're making you like selfie yourself. Like now you have to selfie. And I'm like, oh, I would I would cry so many tears. If someone said to me, you have to do this, because it's just I don't it's so foreign to me, but that's the pressure that, that were it's being put on not only just the young people, but she's in her forties, man. Well, how do you think about that because this is something obviously, there's a part of you that loves performing that loves this craft. And if you were starting out today and someone said to you, the only way you get this the only way it's possible is if you make this thing, this social media thing, a part of your twenty four seven life. What would you say? I don't know if I could do it. I really don't. I I just don't. I don't know if I could do it. It's so outside of my like my structure and not saying it's a bad thing. That's hey man, if you like contained a picture, and you look good to go for it, man. But I'd like troll. Like I'm like, I can't none. None of that sounds, okay? To me, but I've always kind of been that way. Like I'd I. Sort of nonconformist, but. I guess even back way back when, when they wanted me to let go in on this big studio late when I first got married with children. I was like, oh, no. I'm just doing a just going to do Indies since only gonna do such a jerk. But I'm like, his you're too cool. Okay. Hey young kid. You know, you wanna make money it hit. But it was like that was the feeling. Like I couldn't I couldn't do it. There was this feeling like I had to just kind of do what, what felt good to me, but I don't know. I mean, I, I know I definitely know that eighteen year old me wouldn't do it. But if I'm like forty six years old. If someone said to me tomorrow, like, oh for this new show, you, we have to have it. I just don't. I don't know what I'd do. I don't know. It would be so awkward. I think that most people don't love the idea of it. Like most people have some feeling of, like shame of, like I really shouldn't be promoting myself this much mobile giant. Yeah. Yeah, I get its power. I totally. Get its power. I think it's just I, I don't know if I could do like insta- stories of myself talking to myself like that would feel for me. I'd be like, oh, I sound so stupid right now, if you were starting out today in this industry, what would you say? What, what advice would you give go back to you came for? Have other skills. Don't count on, on have. You're a great personality to do this, because at the end of the day, if you can't if you can't deliver on all levels craft wise, if you want to call it that, then it, it's, it's going to be fleeting, and what are the all the levels. You've got you can't be like comedies. Not my thing, you better find a way to have comedy part be part of your repertoire because there is kind of a crossover. That's what we're getting now are not just getting like dramas, and we're not just getting comedies. And we're not just getting action movies. We're getting all of these things are like an amalgamation of each other now and you have to have have like you really have to be comfortable with all aspects of it. You know, there was a time when was guy Madore multisector and, you know, and I'm are coming in, and there's no there's no line anymore. You really have to kind of be able to cross over, I believe, is there you have to be the dramatic actor and the comedian in the same LV at and the action action here, all at the same time action hero, what goes into that. I have no idea. I've never done an action movie. Would you ever want to my back hurts too much? If if someone was like, yeah, you need to train for six months before this, and then get up at five AM every day to do like, you know, you're martial arts. It'd be leaky and I look back on your story, and you have had such this long and successful career a decade ago, you're diagnosed with breast cancer, you underwent a double mastectomy last year. You did more surgery to how, how are you today? I'm how I'm good. I mean, I really put off getting the affected me. And I also did my flipping tubes as well took my ovaries my flipping to top in September. I've been putting it off for so long and because I was so scared of what, how it was going to affect me and. And everything and I'm fine. You know, they give me hormones to replace the hormones that are no longer my body in regulated that through f- after like a week or so of feeling like super menopausal. And then now I'm just fine. Fine. I would imagine a lot of this was a learning process, though, for you. You know, there isn't a guidebook, but there's always someone there who's been through it. Who will listen to you to talk to you through it? And that's something that I had. Luckily when I was diagnosed with breast cancer in two thousand eight my doctor hooked me up with these, like four women who I've had never met, we're basically anonymous to me and they were on the phone with me. No matter what time of day it was to explain things to take me through it to prepare me for it into just like let me know that I wasn't alone. And then after I had mine, I've been not for other for tons of women's sadly, tons of women over the last ten years, but I hadn't known anyone who had done the surgery that I had done except for like one person. And she had kind of a crappy experience with it. But so I was really scared. But then, and it was nothing. And I did that preventative. So I didn't have any kind of ovarian cancer anything. I just was I'm I have Bracha. So the chances of me getting were pretty high. So you don't wanna mess with that one. Let's that one's not a fun. That's no you don't have a good. Usually a good outcome without. So if was time from a baby child from a baby bell data mama around. I had to do it for Sadie daughter, Sadie is seven. She is seven now on saying that is crazy. I remember I interviewed you a few years ago, and she was such a little kid, and now she's now she's Cussing me out. So she yeah. Long talk about that the other day. So kid this language is not okay, by me, but she used it all in the right context. So I was kinda proud of her at the same time like you know what I was being an AH. You're very correct city has she's incredible. And you know, she this is the time that she I feel like I need to be there. And then, so I am there. I am. I do I wake. I'm up with her. I make breakfast. I get ready for school. I take her to school L A work at her school. Then I go pick her up from school. I take her lessons. I take it our play dates everything. Everything is done my mommy, so that's, that's my job right now. Is that what you saw it being? Or is that what you've ultimately decided you wanted it to be? I don't I don't know what I saw is being a what that was going to be. I mean, it changes every day anyway, because they're so they're changing constantly so you have to change your approach to parenting, constantly know that you're gonna fail. Constan. Only and but pick yourself up, and as you know, and look at them and go Kay, they're doing well so I'm doing a good job to what's the toughest lesson. You've had to learn along the way. Gosh, hear more from Christina Applegate after a quick word from our sponsor. Get cashback for shopping, you were already going to do racket in is a free member base. Loyalty program that lets you earn cashback on shopping. It over twenty five hundred stores like Macy's best, buy, Nike, and more shop online internet percentage of every purchase you make up to forty percent cashback every three months members are paid the PayPal or another method. Sign up today at in dot com. That's our A, K, U, T E, N dot com. Capital. One is building a better Bank. One that feels an axe. Nothing like typical Bank. It's why the reimagining banking and building something completely different Capital, One. Cafe. They offer accounts with no fiercer minimums, they also offer one of the best savings rates in America, and you can open a Capital, One account from anywhere in five minutes. Capital One, this is banking. Reimagined open an account today and experienced banking. Reimagined for yourself Capital One. What's in your wallet Capital One and a member FDIC? What's the toughest lesson? You've had to learn along the way. No, gosh, the toughest lesson just in life in general. Yeah. Of all these forty something us. It's okay to say no spent a lot of years. Yes. Ing, and it's okay to, like, like self care, you know. And why were you saying, yes, all those years, people, pleaser such a people pleaser like you'll know of course under that? Totally fine. I'm like, yeah. No. I'm I can't. But you would be so. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Nope, I gotta listen to my heart when this when, but to take care of me. It is a real editor say, yes, to sure. Yes, is a good. Yes, is a good vibration. Don't say yes to the day. Yes to things. But also, if something doesn't sit right with you. You gotta say no. I mean, I, I had a job offered to me a year ago, and it was going to be the last summer before she started kindergarten, which to me, was, like, just a big deal to spend it with her, great amazing job, mazing job, paid better than I've ever been paid in my life still in Los Angeles body Bob, but it was five months, and it was all over the summer every time they would call me about it. I'd get this like sharp pain in my stomach. And in my chest, and I was like, oh, no. The muscles saying, no, it's saying no. Now it would have been amazing for us. Financially for my work for whatever for her to see that. Mommy, does this. But I was like, oh, no, my body's saying, so I said, no, and they're like you're kidding. And I'm like. I gotta hang out with her for the summer. It's too important to me. Do you ever watch whatever project that was no? The now never say what it was. Oh, I am not. I wasn't going to ask you. It's okay. Don't worry. I will make you know, no even try my curiosity was because I actually I've talked to a couple of people about saying no versus saying. Yes, and one of the women who is here talk to me about how should not an actor, but she talked to me about how there was a job. She was offered and her thinking was, what will, I think if I see another person doing that job, ultimately did say, yes, but I thought it was an interesting thing, sometimes ING thing, you know, I think it's an interesting way of looking at these questions, which can be real challenges at the time because when you're especially when you're coming up in your career early on. You kind of have to say yes, to a lot of things at least that's my opinion. I if I had said no to a lot of stuff early on. I probably. Oh, no. You know that's why you have to. But I yeah, I, always I always find like, when I've, I haven't gotten a job or have said, no to something that I've, I've always. Enjoyed whoever had done it. And they were like the right person for like the universe is worked out perfectly that, like, oh, no that so much better choice. You know what I mean? So I've I'm really a big supporter. Usually, I'll have to be supportive of the women in your life. And then the women that are in your industry and, and you know what, what good goes for. Someone else is also good for everybody else. You know. So it's I I've always a big supporter of, of the women in my industry, and, and kind of like being, you know, a champion for everyone, you it seems like you've made really distinct choices though for your life. You've decided especially when it comes to your social life. And what happens outside of work? You've sort of built the life that you want, and your life doesn't revolve around your work own. Gosh. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm twenty four seven with the people in my little neighbourhood. And we'd all these parents like this is we hang out on Friday, nights, and drink wine. And our kids watched movie in. You know that's the night we let them at pizza watch movie stay up as late as you want. We're going to sit out here and like have our night. And, and we none of us leave our area. It's sad. Actually. People will be like can you come down to was Tana? My guy got I'm away Hollywood. That's a twenty minute drive. I can't do that. So I'm happy. I'm comfortable. But, you know, I also just like realize, like I you know, I, I have to work someday again, I really do. I love it. Do I do. I miss it right now. No. But when I do get like a kind of a taste of like doing something like I recorded something for for someone recently and just being in a room, and like laughing and being creative. And, and I was like, oh, this feels so good. It felt so nice. So I'm getting there, I'm, I'm getting there, but it's I'm really looking for what's going to fit what I see in my life, which is, you the first two years of Sade's life. I didn't see her and that like always wanna talk about it. I want to cry because she didn't want me. She wanted nothing to do with me, and I saw a half an hour a day, and that's was heartbreaking. So I've made a vow to myself to really to really inhale this time with her because, you know what when she's eleven years old. She's going to be like, don't come near the school. Don't walk me on the school yard. I want nothing to do with you. You know. So I get to have her now. Now, she's like, mama. No. You have to walk me in hold my hand. Oh, love me. That's wonderful. Also about two ounce like two checks right now. So I, oh, there's okay well, there's a bad. I was looked at my thing. I was like, oh my God. Please note cash that yet. Let me let me try to find some money from somewhere to that account. Yeah, that's not good. Let's talk about sleep. That's about it. Garrett insomnia. Yes. I am have been for most of my adult life. And it's but. It's so funny. So, yeah, I for most of my life. I've, I've had like different variations of insomnia for years. It was like I couldn't fall asleep. And then I still had to get up earliest, which is always painful, it's, you know, you're slaying, they're going like, well, okay if I go to sleep now, I'll get six hours and then an hour later like, well, I mean, it's okay like if I go to sleep now, I'll get five hours and then like it turned into like, oh, and then your alarm's going off and you're completely screwed. Now mine is that I can fall asleep really early. And then I wake up like seven times during the night, that's Evan at high or more. I mean, you could look at like I have one of this fitness tracker things, and you can look on the sleep thing, and it's like red line red line red line red line. That's what means how many times you've been awake. But when I teamed up with Merck about three years ago for the why so awake campaign to really educate people about insomnia. I learned so much that I was doing wrong. And this the simplest of adjustments, to my lifestyle changed everything for me. It was amazing. Like how many of us like check our phone right before we go to bed or read a tablet. Well, the blue light actually tells the awake part of your brain to be awake. So you're, you're basically drinking a Cup of coffee before you go to bed. If you're looking at your phone, but there are settings on there that you can change to nighttime settings and I have mine started, like six PM, and then it comes back on at seven AM. So it goes it goes to yellow light from six to seven, and that's been so huge making it cool in your room, the Levada hot. No. You gotta keep it cool like cool. And if you're cold put some socks on and put your thing, but the keep wholeness try not to eat too close to bed. Don't drink too close to bed keep it dark. Keep the TV off. And then what I've been doing lately, which is something that's been really invaluable. And I kind of came up with it on my own one night was I woke up, I had been asleep for a couple of hours and I woke up at midnight. And I was about to turn on the television like watch CNN, or ABC, of course. Wink, wink, wink, wink ABC? I was like, no. And then I just went I forgive you. I forgive you for being awake. So K. Yes. Okay. That you're up not been deal forgive you, and as I just got really peaceful with the whole idea of it. I fell back asleep. Again, what's the worst advice? You've received in your career. Bigger, the eyebrow. The better, maybe I don't know if it was ever advised. But that was that was something that just happened. I don't know. You know what I can't think of any bad advice 'cause I don't I don't have a tendency to not like, pay attention. We're talking. Well, it's an interesting point, because, you know, I'm not I don't think you're totally shutting everybody out, but it isn't a point because there are there are a lot of people who. Wouldn't necessarily be comfortable making some of the choices that you've made where inside of you. Does it come from for you to know so clearly that these are trade-offs that I am not willing to make even though there might be upside for some people? I, I don't I don't know. I think. I never sought this out. So what and what I mean by that, because that sounds snotty it sounds like, oh, I didn't have to do anything and then I became successful. No, I just was in this from such a young age, and it just never stopped. It just was like it was a continuum you know. So it was just what we had to do. My mom had I had to work we had no money, you know. So it was kind of, like I have to do this, and she's cast to do this, otherwise we're going to be evicted from our house, or we're not gonna have any food. So this was like this, was my job. This was my life was my lifestyle the, the success part of it literally was came out of left field. So, and that didn't even hit anything because, you know what we are on married with children, and we were like the black sheep of that network. And we were not ever treated like we were something special over there. You know, they had the twenty one jump street and had everybody else that they were like fawning over, and we literally would left alone. Until they know one, you know like. There wasn't there wasn't like a big cake. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. There probably was a cake at some point, but I mean metaphorically it really wasn't like that. We end. So we never even realize the impact that we were having out there. So that's kind of why I think I feel this way is just sort of. Just kept kind of going, and I worked really hard not going to say that I mean I auditioned for everything that I ended up getting, you know, I worked hard to get those things. How many additions do you think you've been, I don't all my God? So many, I just went on an addition recently, which I was the first one in probably twelve. Thirteen years. So that was super frightening. And it was like sixteen pages of dialogue. And I might agents were like, well, you don't have to audition for this. I was like, no I want to I want. I would love this job. This is a perfect job for me. And it's haven't done this in so long. Like what a great challenge for me to be able to like see if I can do it again. You know, an am I gonna freak out? I'm going to be scared. I'm gonna pass out late. How am I gonna feel and that's exciting to let's see let's see what happens in the room and I'm not attached to the outcome of it, like, whether I get it or not is not going to change the course of my, my life today. But let's just see what happens. And it went really well, and I did not get the job. But that's okay. I was sad about that one, because I was like, oh, such a perfect. On samba will work just a couple days a week. Mommy gets to take her kid to soccer, so but oh, well the next one the next one it's all fine. Something will come on. What goes into preparing for sixteen pages of dialogue. Oh, lot of thinking. And because I don't like to read off the page, a lot of memory memorizing, which I hadn't met number. Say so long. I was always pretty good at it, but then as a muscle, too. So you get out of your muscle atrophies. So I was having a really hard time in the character had like this one pig long full-page speech. And I looked at like, oh my God. And then I said, don't get intimidated just one thing at a time. One little thing at a time one thought at a time if you know what it is that you're trying to say if you know what it is that you're trying to convey it, what then you can. The words will come the words will be there. And so I just worked on that in, and then I couldn't I was like, I didn't look at the page, I won't be good that happened. You still can do this. This is. But you still didn't get it. So they're okay. I think you need to keep going. It's all good. I, I know I totally feel you on that, and I look forward to watching you, in whatever the next thing, it'll be something sued and Sadie is a very lucky girl. Thank you for joining us. You okay. It's the end of the interview, which means it's time for our no limits entrepeneurship the week where we feed your one of you are amazing listeners who is building something of your own and this week no limits for Noor is Suzy Welch. She's the CEO and founder of been to-. 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"Welcome to the Bravo. Clubhouse for the podcast division of watch. What happens live with me? Andy cohen. First week charities. She was nominated for a Tony and in madman. She gave Don Draper, a bony. It's watch. What happens live with Christina Applegate, and Linda Cartolini now. I'm your host Ed Cohen in the Bravo. Clubhouse celebrating mass national beverage day. Which is something I like to celebrate the other three hundred sixty four days of the year to my first guest is an EMMY award winning actress who you love censor days as Kelly Bundy in married with children or new Netflix star comedy dead to me, we'll give you some major net flicks and kill vibes. Please welcome Christina Applegate. Christina's co-star who's popped up everywhere for mad men to freaks and geeks. The adventures and even Scooby doo, so I'm hoping goes, well, so give me some Scooby snack say, I Linda Carter Levy. Got us out you both out because you are dressed somewhat. How like yeah. We got the sparkly mental right Christina just noticed that. You're like, well, we talked earlier today. And I was like what are you wearing? And she's like this thing with the pant. And I said, well, I'm wearing thing with the pant. And then I was like whatever. But we we decided that we're the we're the hostesses for tonight. Perfect. I love serving you. Coming out of the Vanderbilt rules reunion tonight. So it's perfect. You could you could work at, sir. And since Christina's on screen mom, Katie Seagal respond to my tax inviting to be our guest bartender, tucked behind bars. Someone dressed just like or only with more talking. It's Heidi hoe is drag. Great. I want to get started. We'd just I gotta get into the rules reunion row. Quick recap had everyone wondering why she was so loyal to James take. A look LA has said many times that she's a feminist that supports other women don't feel that support from LA LA just because you have a giant doesn't mean. I'm going to support you why is it so angry? There wasn't incident in Vegas where he called me in front of a whole table you next to him. I doubt at the head of the table. I think it's hard for us all to connect with you. Because you are totally okay with what James does it make you so happy if I like publicly embarrassed him or like, we all have very happy. Yes. It would make them very happy. That's what we found. We're gonna think Beka partout just a little bit Christina and Linda taking your questions. But before we get to those. Here's what three things I am obsessed with tonight since both of my gossip in the industry for years, they probably have more secrets than can fit in this very clubhouse. But if. If I turn off all the lights and speak to them in his soothing voice. Will they spill just a few? Here's what it's time for dish in the dark Hollywood edition. I'm gonna throw out some southern calorie southern California scenarios if you have done it you tell us by shining these flashlights in your faces about shine. If you've done it done it. Okay. Let's turn the lights down guys. Okay. Never have I ever told a designer lost their dress. But secretly took it for myself. Wow. Good girls. Never have I ever lied on my resume to get an amazing role. Wow, never ever namedrop myself to get a reservation at a fully booked restaurant. Never have I ever refused to do a movie or TV show because I didn't like my lead co star. Never have I ever gone to the theater scene. My own movie. What movie will go see legally blonde because I missed the premier and when I came on somewhat to. Two. Really? Of course, that's kind of what I was going for. Okay, never ever told my leading actor that they're breath smelled prior to a kissing scene. Okay. And do they take the note? I mean, did they? Yeah. The MS are had Taco Bell before. That's. Never ever been higher drunk on a red carpet. Never have I ever hooked up in my movie trailer never have. Oh. Ever passed gas in the middle of scene and hope no one would notice. Thank you very much. All right. Finally, I guess show dead to Christina's husband was killed in a hit and run happily road. But when it comes to it's my guests have sported in public over the years now, which do they consider hits and which make them want to run. It's a hidden run pun. Here's what we're gonna find out with for Saatchi or hibachi. I'm going to fire up some of your vintage looks you would still rock them. And if not you will throw them on the clubhouse about cheap, okay, Christina here. You are in eighty eight rotting. I wouldn't I would rock that again. Hippie, man. Okay. Yours Linda in a black dress at the brewer of sleepy hollow in ninety nine that seems gorge vintage shop. Christina here. You are at the Grammys in eighty nine hundred Grammy's after party. Would not there goes Linda in the Komodo inspired pink gown in two thousand. Spine. Student. You are at the Golden Globe awards in ninety two. Rock this again. Okay. No, no, no. All right. Linda, what about the slackers premier in two thousand two girls? Yeah, girl. Yes. I probably couldn't wear that. Okay. But you might keep it Christina. Are you against no? Like super. Neil Chapman, Neil Chapman. Like or something Chapman lake. Vintage is actually a piece of art that you I still have good BNA's in that like a leather. Have that because? Okay. Here's what Linda of Scooby doo premier thousand two. Xi's? Why not what is up with clearly love us travelling. Christina. In the early nineties in a blue suit. Everyone of Linda's like. Got good. She's bitching. This one. Okay. Last year's Linda the matrix revolutions for me now. Okay. All right. That's funny. Okay. Let's go to the phones. Jackie from Idaho. Jackie. What's question? He I'm so excited for dead to me. My daughter's name is actually Judy which I think is Linda character and my questions for Christina. Is it true that you turned down playing a woods in legally blonde? And if so do you regret it? Okay. So I didn't really like the stories out there. But I wasn't like actually offered it the script came to me. But at that time, I just got married with children. And I felt like it was too close to what I had just been doing. And I was very interested in not like removing myself from that. No. I don't regret it because Reese Witherspoon did a much better job than I ever could. And she has now way more money than I do and way more success. And so why would I why would I even regret that whatever? Could've worked with you could. By the way, you so successful kudos to you. Because if that was in your mind, you did so successfully move on recreate yourself some people don't do aren't able to do that. So. Linda, Ryan be wants to know. Where's the fireplace? You one on the prices, right? Okay. I kept that until about two years ago. And then the storage facility were kept it caught on fire and smoke damage on Ron, and I had to get rid of it. That's who he is. Kayla cheat texted Christina. What exactly did Chris Holmes words? Prosthetic? Dick, look like in vacation who said it was pressed. Let's go to Sally from Tennessee, Holly. Hey, Andy, I just wanna say we all love you here in Chattanooga. Yeah. Some questions for Linda, what was your reaction to all the behind the scenes drama over how truthful the story of green book was? Oh, it was. You know, it was I learned a lot of it as I was going through it. And I think that it was I think it was part of it was there were things that hadn't come out yet. That were true that were supportive of their real friendship. And they said that the friendship wasn't real. And there was a lot of things that went back and forth, and there's many many sides to this to the story. But I feel like I was glad that people were heard on on all sides of the thing. And also, I think that even if you are trying to make a documentary about somebody you're never gonna cover every part of their life. So I think that the the movie did was cover sort of slice of of of his life. And for people who didn't know who Dr Shirley was. I think it was it was a nice introduction to him. And I hope that there's more stuff made about him because he was brilliant. Let's go to Anna from Chicago. Hi, anna. What's your question? Hi, guys. My question is for Christina Applegate. 'cause you know, I have to tell you too Ellen Crandall the reason I work in fashion merchandising, I love you like question is what you remember of Megan Markle from when her dad worked on the set of married with children. So her dad was a cameraman on married with children. I read. Yes. Apparently, I I don't remember. Yes. Don't show for a long time show for a long time. And there are lots of people there, and I'm really daft and kind of into myself, and I don't pay attention to other people. Remember their names, by the way, you hold Ruben hall on ruse podcast that you were a jerk during your years on married with children. I don't like a jerk as a person. Okay. Like, I think I was a jerk towards what all of this meant like I didn't wanna like they wanted me to go on this thing this thing. And I was like do that Connor stuff. Do independent films. You know like that. But like I was never like I was always told that you have to be professional in kind and loving to everyone that's around you and everyone's working harder than you are. And so I've always kept that as part of my work ethic. So I don't know. I mean, got it. I was a total jerk to her. But she deserves. One hundred percent Alana catex, Linda is true. You found out about freaks and geeks getting cancelled right before you went on David Letterman. Yes. Yes. I got a phone call. And I only I really really wanted to be on David Letterman that was like one of my all time dreams, and when I was in got off the plane, and I was sitting in the limo, and I got a phone call, and they said the show's been canceled, and my first thought was oh my God, David Letterman's been cancelled. I just not even just and they should know. Honey, your show, it's been canceled. And I knew going on the show because there was somebody at Letterman who liked the show so much. They were trying to help us save it. So I knew, you know, knew it was like sort of like we're all trying to pull the other much as we could to try to get the word out there about the show. And then. Yeah. Christina Eric E. Facebook win the next installment of bad mom's coming out any idea not not any of. But I think there's like some smattering about it being about the moms. So the moms from the bad the last one the grandmas. Yes, there's talk about it's about them. I like that I won't be involved in. All right. It's time everybody. Looking for the person killed her husband when when it comes to describing other onscreen killers. Will she straight up murder? Let's play killer instincts U2.'s, switch seats. Okay. Let me you face each other as famous fictional character. Murderers of beer in the monitor behind Linda Christina's going to describe each one without saying the character or movie title, if Linda ide- six of the actors in sixty seconds you vote. Okay. We're gonna get you a drink. Yes. Outfits. I don't think you can say the movie that they're in. Okay. All right. Name. Okay. It's Yanni jackets damn. I'm really beautiful I'm from Africa. But I gained a lot of weight. Oh. Who is just in vice, but in this movie, Christian bale? Yeah. Okay. She hit the his ankles. He's thank you. Okay. Oh. Ludd at the prom sissies, basic. It's about kind of a serious topic. But it's funny, right. Parts of it are very dramatic and traumatic we'd like to refer to as Trumpy, but all trauma. But also like a suspense thriller as well. Nothing is what you think it is. So you're even the trailer like your people come to me like the trailer. Look so funny, and I'm like you will weep. You don't understand that you're into it? And it's about two people going through intense grief, and how messy grief can be. And there are no rules to that. And they're drowning and they find each other. But then there's like lots of other stuff other stuff. Does it wrap up the end of what you meant every episode is a cliffhanger. So yeah. Been doesn't wrapped up some things that wrap up and some things that are left untied. It's it's gnarly. Okay. Sounds great. It's time for my Mosleh day. And it goes to the dress Raquel ward. Vanderbilt rules for union while I do love dramatic shoulder to shoulder pad with all of the insults being lobbed at her. And James, I think we're Cal would have been better off with football pads tonight Shacklock goes to a man who allegedly threatened restaurant staff when they ran out of ranch dressing. It was asked to leave the property. Well, details are still coming out. I do know one thing about him. Because if I've learned anything from Stasi Schroeder's new book next level, basic this man is the definitive basic bitch. I wanna take Christine. Birdie? Dead streaming on Netflix. Now, Linda Cartolini. And. Hi-de-ho is dragged Bundy. And the how do you know any? Anything you wanna plug? Oh, absolutely. You can follow me on the Instagram or as the kids call it, the Graham, that's Heidi. The ho does the English word. I'm sure you've use it Christina you spell ho H A U X like folk fake Hobich. Okay. Let's go to Alexa from New York. Hey, Alexa, which question. Hey, Andy, absolutely lurking Pristina when you huge huge fans. And. You're welcome all my questions for Christina. It's kind of a two part question. So do you think that there is a chance for an in-command three in the future? And also where you on the set the day Konya was hours late for his cameo in increment to. Okay. Will there be anchorman knowing God, I got it. I just trying to I'm trying to formulate how to answer this question. I don't know if they'll be an increments three because. People are getting like a kademi award nominations. So I don't know if we're going to revisit, but I can tell you this that the day that they do I will be breaking down the doors to beg to please be in it because I love my voice. It's not about the movie even for me. It's about my boys. Those those men that I almost want to cry like, they are the kindest. Most amazing men I've ever worked with. And so I would I would do it all again if I could was not there for the comedy. Let's go to Heather from New Jersey. Hey, how they're what your question. Hi, andy. This question is for Linda. Hi, linda. Have there been any talks of you appearing in the rumored hawk eye juries, but Disney streaming service. I just thought you off as Reagan question. And did you ever accidents Lee spill adventures spoilers to anyone to ever accidentally smell him? No, no. And I'm super proud of that. I don't know. I heard about that. While I was on the red carpet for the the premier the other day is the first ever heard of it. So I don't know. See all right. Betsy from Arizona. Hey, Betsy I N E. Hi, I'm sorry. I end e high ladies, I my questions highway questions for Christina. I was just wondering if you keep in touch with your sweetest thing coast or Selma Blair, and if you knew how she's doing with her MS battle. Yeah. Yeah. That's hard one. Okay. Let's she's she's a strong lady and really proud of her. Cheryl, Connecticut as Cheryl question. My questions for Lynda. What was what was your favorite memory of working with heath ledger Brokeback mountain, and do you think crashed it of one best picture that year wall? Of course, I'm biased I bought it back down to win too. I love that movie and working on that film as a real gift. I mean, everybody involved is so talented, and and he was beyond talented, and he was so kind and and creative and very very nice to me. So it's a giant loss. I think people still feel. Rate film. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. I wanna thank Cristina and Linda. You're Ardy online. Oh, you did it before you go. Here's a sneak peek of Vanderbilt rules like him have made me feel ashamed to be inside my own body. Do you know what that feels like is you made fun of my shoulder? Anorexic before exit. I. Every. Fund, James every single. I'm not saying. Brent's? Way. Because when I'm not trying to get someone in five dawn. Thanks for listening to the podcast everybody. Hope you enjoyed the show. Remember, new episodes? 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The Twists And Turns Of 'Dead to Me'

The Frame

16:24 min | 2 years ago

The Twists And Turns Of 'Dead to Me'

"From the Mon broadcast center at KP see this is the frame. I'm John horn, and thanks for joining us during our spring, membership drive today, my guest is Liz Feldman, she's the creator and show runner of the Netflix series dead. To me, the show's stars Linda Cartolini, as Judy, and Christina Applegate, as Jen there to women who meet in a grief support group in this scene. Jen's neighbor in goodwill gesture comes over to offer her a dish of what she calls. Mexican lasagna, just don't you think you're alone? Jeff Meyer here for you, if you ever wanna talk. Thanks, just can't imagine what you're going through. Well, it's like, if Jeff got hit by a car and died suddenly and violently. Right. As you can tell from the clip dead to me, walks a fine line between comedy and tragedy. The series is filled with some surprising twists and turns. And while to show about grief. It's often very fun to watch dead. To me is also one of those shows that seem to have gained a lot of traction through social media and positive word of mouth in what's unusual for a lot of Netflix series. It has just been renewed for a second season. Here's Liz velvet. This is a totally unique experience. I sort of, can't believe it's happening as it's happening like this is beyond what I would have dreamed it would become, you know, you hope that, you know, it's nuts. Like so you can stream it anytime and maybe people will discover it and I mean, truthfully, my dream for this show starting from when I first thought of the concept was, maybe I could do a little show for Netflix that, that kind of flies under the radar, you know, with no real stars, and I could just like dabble into this new genre that I've never worked in before. Four and you know, maybe maybe it'll be like a little small cult thing. And so for it to have grown to the extent that it has has kind of been a mind blowing experience and outside of the volume has been something particular about what people have said, even if you haven't seen it directly but heard about it that has been especially gratifying about the ways that people are reacting to the story that you find meaningful. Absolutely. I mean when I set out to write the season with the writers so much of what we talked about was I wanted people to relate to these characters. I, I know that some of the plot is, is kind of, you know, heightened incredible and twisty turny but at the core of it. I just wanted to be about grief and loss and forgiveness and the power of friendship to get us through the darkest times and. Last night. For example, we were doing this event for net flex and I did a panel and answer questions. And I had all these women coming up to me after the panel, some of them in tears, telling me that, you know, they've just lost, somebody really close to them. And you know how this show has touched them, and how it's been the only thing that's gotten them through, and that is such a gift to be able to have that kind of conversation and connection with your audience. And you know, I mean I come from a family of doctors and healers. I always thought, oh God. I'm like, going to, you know, I'm just going to be like a comedy person who you know. Has has brings no meaning to the world and I feel in some way like this has maybe brought some healing to people, and it's a very meaningful, profound experience to, to have done that one of the things that I imagine is very tricky is how you balance comedy and trauma, or tragedy and loss and grief. And I'm wondering how you thought about that kind of almost mathematically about how you're going to integrate comedy into the darker themes of the series. Well, you're giving me more credit than I deserved because I'm not good at math, so certainly not mathematical, but it was more intuitive. You know, based on my own experiences in the writer's experiences of having gone through our own trauma, and just knowing that, you know, when I'm in my darkest moments, I need to have that release that you're talking about. I look for that one sort of weird detail. You know if I met a funeral I fix on like the rabbis hair, you know, that kind of thing and just, you know, or or just. The person that can't stop clearing their throat. There's just like things that I tend to focus on to, to take me away from the heaviness of things. And that's what I was aiming to do with the show is like just give you a little bit of a release. You know, certainly ramp up the tension because that's entertaining and it's fun. And it's exciting but to always give you a little bit of just a little bit of a laugh or a little bit of a, a, a moment where you not even sure you're supposed to laugh. I love those. And that's what I was going for. And I hope that's how it felt when you're watching ought to play clip from the first episode. This is where Jen play by Christina Applegate, and Judy played by Linda Cartolini are smoking pot on the beach. I say something weird. Please. Thank you. What? No just for me and my life, I guess. Weird. Little cherry. Can also just not saying doing same stupid. Everybody says and does. Makes you feel more alone than already aria. No. And for not being repulsed on my version of. Thank you. For the same. I think I read that you said that, while the situation and the plot is not drawn from your life. The emotions are I think in many ways, especially in the pilot. It's meant to be a bit of a love letter to my friends. I'm one of those people that's really lucky that I've had, you know, a handful of really close female friends since college. So, you know, over twenty years now for me, and I wanted to show in some ways, the romance of friendship intimacy that you can have with another person of your same sex that isn't necessarily like you know romantic as in sexual, but it's it's just intimate. And I think I looked to those relationships in my life to get me through the painful stuff that I have been through. And, you know, at the time that I came up with this show, I was in a really dark place. You know, I had experienced a lot of lost. A lot of friends who are peers of mine. So at that point, you know, I was just about thirty nine forty years old, and I had multiple friends who had passed, for various reasons tragically. And then on my fortieth birthday, my cousin died unexpectedly of a heart attack. And you know, when you're earning forty or early lake asking a lot of existential questions about your own mortality. And then to just sort of see it cut short and somebody that you love was, it was a really emotional time for me, and I was also going through for things at the same time. So I you know, I think in many ways, like I wrote this to heal myself, and you know to, to work through some of those feelings that I couldn't necessarily express, like, you know, to my loved ones to my friends, I, I kinda just funneled at all into these two characters and I didn't even realize that I was doing that. In some ways, I thought, oh I'm doing this whole escapist thing. Aren't characters that are based on me. This is totally different. And then when I was done writing the pilot. I thought, oh God. They're both me. When we come back more with dead to me creator, Liz Feldman on the elements of the show that she knew she wouldn't budge on. Welcome back to the frame. I'm John horn. Let's get back now to my conversation with Liz Feldman, the creator of the Netflix series dead. To me, the show's stars, Christina, Applegate, end Linda Cartolini Feldman has been working in TV for a long time, on shows, like blue collar TV two broke girls and the Ellen Degeneres show. She also created a sitcom for NBC called one big happy. You're going to hear more about that show shortly. But first here's Feldman explaining why it was so important to her to hire women to write indirect dead. To me for me. This is a show that I always knew I wanted to be about women in their forties, and not in their thirties, you know, not in not in their early thirties because, you know, of course, as we were casting lots of different names came up, and I would be like, yeah, no. She's incredibly talented. She's thirty four. So it was just important to me for this to be told through a female perspective to be seen through a female lens. And you. To be treated with, you know, the paradigm that I live in, and that, I know these women live in, and I if you don't make it a mandate, it won't happen. So I was really, really strict sort of about that from the beginning. It was really important to me that the directors and writers women when we think about loss, we typically, think about people who have died, and there are a couple of instances of loss that you examined in this series. One is mistake, Demy. And the other one is miscarriage and those feel integral to the series as well. Yeah, the double mastectomy that actually was suggestion and an idea that came from Christina herself, Christina is a cancer survivor, and did herself have a double mastectomy, and we were actually already done writing, and we were shooting and we were looking at episode four where she first brings it up. And she said, you know, I think there's a reason why this marriage between. And Ted fell apart. I think there's something that happened. She said, what if she had a double mastectomy, and I, I just thought that was first of all, incredibly generous of her and thoughtful. But also, it was such a important layer for that character such a vulnerable real relatable thing for her to be going through, and for me. You know, having gone through fertility struggles for for, for me personally for six years, trying to get pregnant, or you know, IBF all all of the things that women go through. You know there's a certain point where it every month that you're not pregnant feels like a loss, and you know, it does it does start to form a grief inside of you when that happens. And so for me again, this was very much a healing thing just to be able to write about it. We're talking with Liz Feldman about her. Netflix series dead. To me. I want to ask you a question about what you learn from failure at how that can be applied to what you do going forward. Heard this is a clip from your. I don't know what to web series. What we call this just out. We call it a kitchen table, talk show. This is from your kitchen table, talk show. This just out called one big happy for NBC. That's a real network. The show is a really close to my heart because it's based on my relationship with my lifelong best friend Jason. Stars a leash Cuthbert, who is so amazing, so beautiful, so talented hilarious. And she plays a lesbian. Lesbian on primetime TV it's the first lesbian lead on a sitcom sins Ellen nineteen ninety seven. Math, but that's forty years. So it is time one big happy to, but six episodes. Yeah, we were picked up for initial order of six episodes, and given a mid season run in two thousand fifteen what do you take away from an experience like that? You get to make show for network, it doesn't last my takeaway was that making that show was an incredible joyful experience that the process of doing it the experience of having your first show, be picked up, and that it was an autobiographical show was really personal. And it was in some ways groundbreaking in that it really had been, I think eighteen years or something since there was a lesbian lead character on a network sitcom, you know, it was it was obviously, very painful for me when it was cancelled its, it never feels, good to, you know, quote unquote fail. But it's really hard for me now to look at that as a failure because I enjoyed the experience, which was the bulk of the time, you know, that's a success. And, you know, if you're going to have. A long career in this business, you have to kinda learn to enjoy the actual ride, and not just the destination at got to be a show runner for the first time I got to experience, what it's like to deal with multi layers of network and executives and all that stuff. And certainly what I learned there informed. How I you know how I ram dead to me. So what did you take away when what did you do differently? In terms of how you ran to me versus this series. You know, I think I, I brought a certain confidence to running to me the scary, but really important ability to say no. And to fight for the things I really believed in, you know, there was a little bit. I mean, I had incredible support from net flicks and from CVS studios throughout the making of the show. But there were times, you know, in conversation, where there, you know, there was some pushback, for example, like on how angry Jen is Christina applegate's. Character. You know, and I understand those questions. But my answer was always, yes. She does need to be angry. You know, the way in which I sort of stood up for my own vision was definitely informed by the experience not doing that. The first time around, you know, I it's really hard on network television to say no, it's hard not to do what they want you to do with the show, and with the characters and because it was sort of a, not a controversial, but it was, you know, even just having a lesbian character was was a sort of thing. And they had a lot of ideas of, how that should be, and how she should dress and things like that. And you know, Butch yeah. Basically. Yeah. Literally, there was a note. Can she wear less flannel? I was like, have you ever met a lesbian? I am one. I would know look at my closet, so anyway, you know, there, I wished I had been stronger than but, you know, you have to learn, you have to learn how important it is to say, no. And to stand up for your vision. Wellness idea of coup. Ci be less angry is something that you never hear set about male characters of course because women who are angry are trill, and they're not forceful people who have strong feelings xactly they're worse than all of it unlikeable. That was the fear was that the character would be unlikable, because she was angry which was really kind of a funny note to here because, you know, it just made me angry to hear it. So but you know it is it's hard like I want wanna be likable. I know most people want to be like, especially women of my generation, we are raised to be pleasers, and you know, to, to not ruffle feathers, and to be likable, an agreeable. And you know, it was a real challenge. Sometimes to say, no, you know what? She she's going to be that angry because she deserves to be that angry. Look at what she's been through. She has every right to be angry. And you know what I think that will be likable because I think it's relatable let's fell then is the creator writer and executive producer of dead to me list. Thanks. Thanks, john. The first season of dead to me is streaming now on that flicks, and that is the frame for today. Thank you so much for supporting KPCC. I'm John horn. We'll see you tomorrow back here from the Mon broadcast center. So let's say song. Good.

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Actor Christina Applegate

Fresh Air

48:50 min | 2 years ago

Actor Christina Applegate

"From WHYY in Philadelphia. I'm Terry gross with fresh air today. Christina applegate. She stars in the new Netflix comedy, drama series, dead to me, as the woman, grieving, the sudden loss of her husband, how do you forgive someone who hits her husband with their car and then drives away leaving him to bleed to death on the side of the road? How do you forgive that? One of her. Character. Storylines comes from applegate's own experiences after having a double mastectomy. It's an amputation and you physically emotionally go through so much when you lose a part of you Applegate became famous as a teenager co starring in the sitcom married with children, she started with will Ferrell in the comedy film anchorman, from all of us here at channel four news. I'm Veronica Corning stone and TV critic David in Cooley, reviews, the new season of black mirror, that's coming up on fresh air. My guest, Christina Applegate, was a teenager when she became famous for her role as Kelly Bundy, the daughter in the hit sitcom married with children. She went on to star and other TV shows and to start with will Ferrell in the movie comedy anchorman, the legend of Ron burgundy now Applegate stars in the new Netflix series dead to me, which the people behind the series describe, as a trauma to accommodate drama that deals with trauma, and with guilt Applegate plays gen a grieving widow raising two children. Her husband was recently killed in a car accident. She's expressing her grief through anger, like in the opening scene when a well intention neighbor knocks on jen's door offering dish. She's prepared for Jen and her children. So you just heated up at three hundred and leave it in for thirty five minutes. Thanks, karen. You really don't have. It's my take on Mexican lasagna, gray. It's nothing we just don't you think you're. Own Jeff and I are here for you if you ever want to talk. Thanks. Just can't imagine what you're going through. Well, it's like, if Jeff got hit by a car and died suddenly and violently like that. Jen starts going to grief support group where she is befriended by Judy played by Linda Cartolini who explained she's there, because her fiance died of a heart attack. But nothing is as it seems in this series, which is filled with surprising plot. Twists and character. Revelations all of season, one is streaming on Netflix. This week the series was renewed for a second season Christina Applegate, welcome to fresh air. Thank you very much. It's really hard to talk about the storyline of the series because there are so many reveal so many kind of surprising, twists and turns that I feel like almost anything I can say is a spoiler. How do you deal with that? Oh, well, I was really hard and we are promoting the show before it had aired or dropped or whatever they say it Netflix trying to talk about what the premise of the show was because we really couldn't say anything, there were like eighteen different spoilers that we weren't allowed to talk about. So that was really difficult now that most people have seen it. If you haven't seen it, I won't spoil it for you. It's yeah, it was it's, it's been hard to, to not let anyone know because it is, like the every episode has its cliffhanger. And it's reveals and it secrets what we can say, for sure. Is that the two main characters yours and Linda Cartolini's characters are both dealing with grief. And what did you think of the idea of dealing with grief comedic -ly? Well, as Liz, always says, she's the yes, she's a creator dead to me. There is always in that darkest parts of your life. You trying to find the humor in life because you need some repose. And I think that the way it's written is not jokes. It's people just trying to like, have a minute of away from all the pain that they're feeling. And, you know, and also people, you know, I always think that people crying is pretty funny. Anyway. But I, I love the idea of, of this grief being so completely messy, an unexpected an unapologetic, especially for my character Jen who's operating in the world. Not from any kind of like thought she's really just trying to survive. She's trying to keep her head above water. And there's a lot of shame in that their shame in, like not stopping your grief. When everyone wants you to stop your grief. I mean, I've been there I've, I've, I've had times in my life that were so incredibly painful, and I in other people's eyes wasn't dealing with it the way, I should have dealt with it, and, and that's really hard because you don't know how how else to deal with it. But then, but the way that you are feeling we're you grieving for a person when you went through the or the loss of something else. I've, I've lost people and, you know, health issues and. Things like that all kind of around the same time a few years ago. So that was that was really, really dark dark time. So I really related to that when I got the script, and it's not something I had to really pull from it just lives there. It lives in, in the fibers of your being in, in your spirit in your soul. It stays there. You mentioned grieving for health reasons, for body reasons. I'm thinking you're probably referring, at least in part to your double mastectomy. Well, yes that was a really tricky time. Yeah, this was in two thousand eight yes. So like can I ask you, if you questions about that as on? All right, you've been public about it. A lot of women go through this, and I think it's helpful to hear people talk about it. There's nothing nothing shameful about it. There's nothing shameful about it. But that there, there is that feeling that's there. And I think that's, that's one of the reasons I wanted it to be in the show. Yeah, I haven't mentioned that yet it's it's in the show. And, and we, we find out about it a little deeper in, but it's one of the things that has kind of interfered with intimate relations between your character and her her late husband. So was it your DEA to put that in the show? Yeah. And I think they'd beautifully put it in there that it wasn't something that we harped on. It was something that, Jen, like very flippantly kind of mentioned that, you know, like want wants to sort of dismiss it at first, but then come episode nine when she talks about the pain of it, I think it was important for women who have gone through this to, to be heard because so often, we're told like, you know, people would constantly say to me, well, you know what? I mean, the good point is, is that you save your life and this button, God man, when you're going through it, those kinds of reactions are. Are really disturbing because no one really understands how you actually feel and I think I did a disservice to myself at the time in a way by kind of being a champion for it, and not being really honest with my own self about how I felt and I think that's why I wanted I wanted to sort of live that out and let women who have gone through it know that it's that we all feel in jen's words, disgusting sometimes, yes, a what were some of the things you felt you weren't being totally honest about 'cause you were trying to be like a, a role model. I was trying to be a role model but it was also lifting trying to lift myself up, you know, and and, and denying myself sort of those feelings, because feelings were are there. It's been many years for me. So I'm I'm much more used to, you know, my, my life my body now. You know, but it's, it's. You know, it's an it's an amputation, and, and you physically and emotionally go through so much when you lose a part of you, especially a part of you, that is defines you as a female, and then all of those other things, and it gives you know, it feeds baby. He's. There's a lot of a lot of reasons that, that some very personal surgery. Were you already a mother, when you had the double mastectomy now I was not? So you became a mother afterwards, I did. Which means you did not breastfeed, and guess what? She's completely healthy, right? Smart and brilliant and rightly attached to her. Mommy, so you must have really kind of missed the idea of having breasts when you came a mother. Yeah, that was difficult. I really I, I that was sad because I really, I would hold her and be feeding her and really had wanted to have that experience something that I will never be able to have an it was, you know, it was I went through a lot with that. But I you know, had I not had the surgery, I wouldn't have had a child, because I would not be alive, so it, it all kind of was okay. Yeah. So you had breast cancer in one breast. But then you got the genetic test your mother had had breast cancer, too. She's she survived, and you got the, the test, the genetic tests, and found that you were positive for the brecca one, gene. Which is the gene, that is believed to be connected to breast cancer. And that's what made you decide to. Yeah. And ovarian. Oh, I didn't know about the ovarian. Really? Yeah. My mom had both breast cancer and ovarian cancer, and she's Bracha my cousin passed away right after my surgery of from ovarian cancer. She was Bracha so, yeah, there's, there's definitely, you know, apparently at tie between those two things are the chances of getting ovarian cancer. When you're Brock are fifty percent and your chances of recurrence of breast cancer is somewhere between seventy five and eighty percent was this a hard decision to make or were you confident that you had to do it. I was very against the idea of it for a long time. My doctors were trying to convince me and I was very against the idea. And then it hit me. One day, just do I want to be having this hanging over my head for the rest of my life. And no, I didn't want to be living in that kind of fear for ever, you know. I mean, we still get checked up. I'm checked up all the time, but it was just it just was the right thing for me to do. Did you say goodbye to your breasts before before I love hearing people talk about the rituals? They go through right before that, because it's, it's, it's interesting that women come up with ways of like saying goodbye to that part of their body. I took pictures. I don't know where they are. That's helpful. That was a long time ago. I have no idea where they are. But there. Yeah. They were good. So I was pretty bummed. They were good set. So just one other thing, I want to say about the mistake to me is that you went public with it, but I would suspect in the back of your mind, you're wondering, not only how will will affect your life and relationships, but will it affect your work. Will it affected a roles and I love that you cloud and sitting I don't show my boobs anywhere like a concern for me at all. And I didn't want to go public. I had actually I had actually kept it a secret for many, many, many, many months. And then I had two surgeries before my mystic me to lumpectomy is months before, and it wasn't until I was in the hospital for more than a few days, that someone saw me and called the, the tabloids are whatever is like if thing to they still exist, you, they do unfortunately and had called. So they had outed me, basically that I was in the hospital and we had to make a statement. But I wasn't like my plan really wasn't to talk about it because it didn't really matter. It was my personal story. But then at the same time, you know, an MRI saved my life and because of that, I started my foundation right action for women, which we provide funding for women of high risk for their annual Emory's and also a website that can educate you to know what it means to be high risk. And what kind of steps you can take? So that started right in two thousand and eight so there was there was a there was a silver lining in there as well. Didn't feel helpful to you to be able to do that. Helpful for yourself as well as for the other women. Well, I knew that, like, I had gone in for my MRI my second Mwai, and this is I hadn't didn't know I had cancer yet and the woman who helps me at the hospital that I go to said, can you get the word out because all these young women who are risk are not getting their Emory's because of the cost. And at that time, you know, insurance companies weren't covering the cost at all. I mean, now they, they cover most of it. But there still is a co pay. And also, if there's a frequency if you're going every single year, it can add up, and I said, yeah, of course I'll, I'll get the word out and little did. I know that MRI showed that I had had DCIS. And so I felt very grateful for this incredible imaging because oftentimes mammograms, don't show cancer until many years after it had already been growing, so an MRI can catch it sort of an earlier stage. When I started right action for women. Yeah. While I'm glad I did glad you started that. So you became famous when you were sixteen for your role as Kelly Bundy daughter on married with children. I'm going to ask you to describe the character. Oh, Kelly Bundy, and I'm curious if you can use the word ditsy because that's, that's where word everybody seems to use. Ditsy. Lazy thinker. I guess, you know, I had to play her as a genius. You know, in her own mind, she's genius, and we're and aversion factually, so those are the those are my little secrets that I had about her. You know, she's was really a kind of a product of that time, the scripted you know, the show had been written, and they actually shot the pilot with two other actors playing Kelly and bud. And then we that just didn't work out. So they came back at us, do it an originally Kelly was kind of like a tough little rebellious, almost like biker chick. And it just didn't it something wasn't for me. Fitting, and luckily, at that time, no one saw FOX that first year. This was like the first sitcom that it has had very first show that, that ever aired on FOX, and it wasn't even really a network will. That's what they used to tell us when it would come time for negotiation sleep, but we're not really a network. I know you don't get that kind of money, anyway. So she it kind of evolved or devolved as if he wanted to call it that after I had seen this girl in this documentary, and I went, oh my God, I need to that's it. That's her. So we kind of changed her up to be sort of the product of the eighties of this, this generation of girls that felt they needed to use their bodies to get. Further in the world. And the, the music was had been metal and there was, you know, sorry, pardon me, like rock, sluts, and videos and sort of kind of evolved from that idea. What was the documentary watch it was called decline of the western civilization? The metal years. Yeah. Okay. Oh, there was a girl in it, who she had just won miss Kazai's. And she was sitting there, I believe in a white mini-dress, which I had never really seen anyone where. And they asked her like what she wanted to do after winning miscues Ariz, and she said, I want to continue with my modeling and my actress ING. And I went that's the best thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Literally the next day I went to the wardrobe people and to everyone, and I said, we got the word change in this up change it up. Let's hear a clip from married with children. And so this was on for eleven seasons from eighty seven to ninety seven. Thank you was eighty eighty six to ninety seven. Okay. So something like that. So you know it's fifteen when we started. So you're fifteen sixteen I was fifteen when we shot it, it's a young age to be a star. We'll talk about that in a moment. So the, you know, the series is about a suburban family. The, the father is a shoe salesman hates his job. He very condescending to his wife, who he expects to cook and clean. But because she sees herself as a bit of a suburban goddess she hates to cook and clean. So she just sits around and watches TV all day. And you're, you're the kind of sexualize daughter, who you say is. Actually of virgin. So usually when you entered seen the first time in the in each episode, there'd be like these cheers and whistles, and everything. So here you are making your entrance in this episode of married with children. Killers fun. I want to tell them that I've got a big date tonight. I love ruining his Saturday nights. Oh my God. It's sunday. I'm going to be a work. How did I move a day? Must have magnesia. What a Gilligan do and he had magnesia. Oh my God. I don't remember. I'm losing my short term memories. I'm sure it gets is a word you say a lot. Dukes. So what was it like to make an entrance with such hollering and, and, and, and hooting? And how much of that was real. And how much of that was like a sign flashing to the studio on. No, there was no signs. This was all real. In fact, most of the time, we had to tell them to stop because it would it would go on for too long for any of our entrances for, for Eddie's for mine, and we would it would actually start to kind of, like mess up the timing of, of the scenes. So we would actually have to ask the audiences to, like, cool, it, we didn't have a laugh track one of that this was all like those two hundred people like at a sporting event, basically, I'm I you know, I tried to tune it out because I if I had like played into that would be a whole other ball game but I had to stay in my scene. Do my work. Do my job. And hopefully they would stop at a certain time. So I could say my first line. Well, we emission the timing. You know every every punchline got along laugh. So how does that mess? With your timing. It really it really can. Because when you're doing that kind of comedy when you're in front of a live audience in its four cameras, and basically, it's I like to call. It's like vaudevillian. Do you know your your you've got this relationship with the audience, you have to like you have to use them, you know, to be part of the scene, and timing is such, it's such a precise thing if you're one beat off than a joke. It doesn't work for that kind of comedy it has to has to land in this pocket. And if the pockets off, you're done. So was really important for us to, you know, keep them under wraps so that we could do it. We needed to do so, you know, a lot of teenage boys, adolescent boys had crushes on you because of your performance and married with children. How did that affect your life? It didn't I've, I've, I'm very like I stay in my bubble. I've always stayed in my own bubble. And the way I operated in the world was very different than Kelly. Bundy, the person that I was the way I dressed the friends that I had my interests were the polar opposite of her. So no one came near me, kind of held myself with like a get the F away from me kind of I all the time. So I kinda just live my life. My guess is Christina Applegate. She stars in the Netflix series dead to me after a short break. We'll talk about how she started in show business as an infant and has she broke her foot while starring in a revival of the musical. Sweet charity and TV critic David being Cooley, will review the new season of black mirror. I'm Terry gross. And this is fresh air. This message comes from NPR sponsor Capital, One Capital, One wants to build a better Bank, one that feels and acts, nothing like a typical Bank, so they're reimagining banking. They. They offer a great savings rate and accounts with no fees, or minimums, that can be opened from anywhere in five minutes. That's banking. Reimagined Capital One. What's in your wallet? Capital, One in a, that's get back to my interview with Christina Applegate. She stars on the new Netflix series dead to me, as a woman, grieving, the sudden death of her husband, did you feel that the show was sexist in its portrayal of your character, and Katie the character of the mother. I think it was commentary on, on people that are sexist. It wasn't there to operate as, as this is what this is. It's it's going like you know, it's like do like do look at Archie bunker, and take it for face value. Or do you think that, that Norman Lear was brilliant and going, this is a slice of American life? And this is actually happening not to compare us to all in the family, which I would never, but I think that. The guys that created it, this was them going okay, these people exist. But at the same time this family would do anything for each other at the end of the day. So the series was considered very raunchy in its time. So tame compared to what? Oh, I know I know I know, but there was pressure from the right that this was like an anti-family show that was to sexual is there was a letter writing campaign. How much attention did you pay to the none? It actually made us more popular made. It seem more controversial and more edgy. Yeah, we actually used to send a fruit basket to Terry recall to every year. Who who started a letter writing him? God bless her. Thank you. We had a great run because of that. Do you remember any of the specific scenes that the letter writing campaign objected to? A no but like we couldn't even Erin episode that the women had their period. Like really, everybody. Women get their periods and it's funny when women are together and they're cranky. And they're this, and we, we couldn't a or she, I think she was upset about that episode item. Remember, I mean we're talking. Thirty some years ago. So it's I don't really remember any specifics because it wasn't really a thing, it wasn't something that we were all like shaking in our boots about, and that I'm not trying to be snotty about it or, or anything. I'm just saying like at that time, we had to continue doing what we were doing an if we had altered the way in which we were doing things than than other people win. And I always said, like, you know, if you if you have a problem with it turn the channel so you were born into show business in a way your mother was an actress and singer, she sang backup on Leonard Cohen's first album. I thought that was she did. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about her career. Herger started in New York. She was in a group called the bitter end singers for many years, back in the sixties early sixties. And then she, she made this really beautiful album called you've come this way before in the late sixties. This was around the time she met my dad, and then they she was Millais than at that time, and, you know, continue to act here and there, but then she had a baby, and she was on her own those that baby with me that babies me, there's only me, I mean, I do have a brother and sister for through my father and his his previous wife, but, you know, she was alone. And so that's kind of how I started doing it is that she couldn't afford childcare, so I would end up going on dishes with her or going to she was part of a, a playwright group, and I would end up, she just they would put me in the plays because she couldn't find anyone to watch me, and that's kind of where it all sort of happened. You're unscreened when you were three months old and five months old. What were the roles and will you playing your mother to call them? Do the call them. Roll my mother's child. That's the thing is it. And I was walk on. Yes, no, I was played. It was with my mom. So it was we did a Playtex nursery commercials. She did a place techs nurse commercial, but they she had a baby. So it was perfect. And then she was on of our lives like one or two episodes, or something, in that character had a baby and luckily, she had a baby. And those were those were my first onscreen appearances have you gone back on watch them. I've seen the I've seen. I haven't seen the days of our lives. I don't even know what will wear to find that somehow some talk show was on, like one hundred years ago. They had they were able to get the clip of the commercial, and it's really it's really funny 'cause she's like, you know, everyone kind of talked with, like a mid Atlantic accent back, then, you know, when they're actors like everyone had like a little bit of a weird accent and. She was like she spits up less than has less gas. That's what my mom. Where you adorable. Oh, yes. Well, of course. So since your mother was in show business, and you got started when you were still an infant, because you played her infants or she could do her job with hiring a babysitter did that give her the impression you should keep doing this is that how you got involved in it as sort of organically just happened. And then the I mean, I don't really remember my childhood that very well to be honest with you. I. Just know that it was always just a part of my life. I was always doing it in some capacity. I was are there like in an acting class. I remember being in an acting class in loving it when I was really young probably around my daughter's age and commercials. And then episode it just sort of happened, there wasn't like a goal or anyone pushing anyone to do anything it was just sort of what I did. Also we needed another income. So you know it helps with you know our livelihood. So it just it that just, just was the way it was. Well, let's secretary break here. 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You'll think about it every time I see his face Mitch McConnell new series from embedded subscribe, now, let's get back to my interview with Christina Applegate. She stars in the new Netflix series dead to me, as a woman, grieving, the sudden death of her husband. So in addition to doing movies, and TV you did a Broadway revival of sweet charity. The music in that show us so good. Isn't it? The best of my God. Yeah. And you had to basically audition for. For the composer Cy Coleman. What was that, like? Recipes Cy Coleman. But now I can talk about how it was. It was really difficult. The audition process was really it was something else. I really I you know, I'm a huge Vaasie fanatic. I've sweet charity was when my favorite movies, all the jazz is in my top five of all time. I mean, this is like was Mike. My dream come true that I went to New York to audition. And I was there for a minute felt like ten hours and probably was ten hours of. Singing, audition. And then, you know, the all the scenes I had to do, and then the dancing when I was there for it just for hours, but apparently the end of the day after the addition was over and berry Wieser came into the dressing, Barron. Fran came in and said, can you give us a year and I sat there and I said, can you give me a minute? I was like drenched in sweat. And I kind of wanted to go just to have the experience of having a New York audition. I didn't even know if I had wanted to really make the commitment to do this at that time. I just wanted the experience of that. So I needed a minute and then. I get the call that Cy was not convinced of my singing, which I don't blame him. I mean, it's not my strong suit, and he wanted to have another work session in Los Angeles with me, and it was really, really challenging the way they operate in, not everyone in New York. But the way they talk to you. It's not fluffy. Like they do out in Hollywood. He was tough on me really tough on me. And I thought I was going to, like burst into tears many times during that work session. It was really, really hard and I got back in the car, and I call them and I said, look, I really wanna do it because if they're going to be like this, like, I, you know, and they said, well, psych Coleman, just called and he completely like thinks you're magical, and you, you're, you got the job. It was like say what, how did that happen? I thought he hated me. It was so scary, but it was amazing to be around him. This man who's written? All this incredible music. You said he was tough on you. What did he do that seem? So tough start moving your arm. Stop doing it that way. Why are you seeing it like that? Start. Again. Start like really what you what you think would happen in those in a work session like lily lake like the on Jeju getting completely like verbally abused. But I think that's just who he was. You know, he was just very strong man with a he knew what he wanted. No one's like fuzzy in the Broadway world. You know, it's, it's a tough job. And they gotta make sure you're doing it. Right. So we, you know, when we got there was, it was wonderful. I mean incredible. The rehearsal process was so much fun and so filled with so much joy for me. But they're you know, they can be tough on you. Well, let's hear you saying from the cast recording. And this is if my friends could see me now, which is such a great lyric by Dorothy fields. So here's my guess Christina Applegate, if they could. Theme me now that little gang of mine. Chow drink infancy wine, high pike bass, Don. Seople back then. Fair straight. Trump's I attract like in stages. Wow. Look in where I am to nine land now, right? In jam. Holy cow. They'd never believe it. My friend. Insane. Christina Applegate, from the revival of sweet charity recorded in two thousand five. Do you just love Dorothy fields lyrics, God? The whole the whole score is just so so amazing. I mean and with size music I mean you can't go wrong when you hear like, don't dude it him booth. I mean, come on. It's like I get chills when I hear that it's just it's just perfect. So something really went terribly wrong for you during the pre Broadway tour of sweet charity, I think you were in Boston when during the Chicago, Chicago. Okay. I'm gonna be March fifth when you broke. Well, not that you remember March eleventh was yet March fifth. Sorry, so you broke the fifth metatarsal of one of. Yes. When my right foot. What happened? Oh man. I we had changed which way I was entering. So I was usually entered from the left wing's, but this time, we had me entering from the right. Head rehearsed yet, I these weird shoes on and I was standing there back there. And I was like, you know what my ankles are too wobbly for these shoes. I'm gonna change them because they weren't the shoes that I was dancing. And it was like the shoes that I get wet in 'cause I fall into a lake at the beginning of the of the show. And in usually when I have a thought like that, I'll usually stop and kind of blessed myself like, okay wait. Don't fall down the stairs. You know what I mean? And curtain came up, I ran out, and I got up on the lamppost and my heel slipped off the side of the lamppost, and it just cracked, just in half men, I felt it happen. And I was out there in front of two thousand people it was really, really scary. Scary moment, I was trying to signal to the stage managers that I broke broken my foot and. We had actually this little box that I would fall into like for the, the lake and there was a little window, where the stage manager would always Hanmi water to throw over my hair, and I went down fell into the lake. I looked at her, and I said, I broke my foot and she was what and I came up said the line that I was supposed to say went back down and just screamed. I broke my bleep bleep anybody foot. And she goes K calling an ambulance and I said, okay, and I came out and I finished about half an hour of the show because charity doesn't leave the stage. So it was just the most like trying to navigate doing like a dance number and singing and try not to stand on my right foot for that half. Hour was really one of the most frightening things I've ever had to do. And then finally, when they started the Frugh, which is a big number that I'm not in, I went off stage in fainted, and those it, well and then they stopped the show. Yeah, I collapsed into beverly's arms who are stage manager shouldn't. They have just stopped the show. Oh, when you said I broke my foot. Yeah. The kept saying, do you want us to, and I said, no. We need to get where I can get off the stage without it being. Clumsy. Well, I don't miss age for half an hour. That is really weird things happen. When you have a gentleman going on. We're decision making happens. Do you think you hurt your foot any worse by having? You know, did done some dancing on it. Stayed on stage for half. Oh, probably. And I've, I've, I mean, I still have issues with it because I did come back. Six weeks later and did the show. So before it was healed. Oh, yeah. It was only about thirty percent by then. Oh, gosh. So, yeah, I had lots of tape underneath my in my boot, and boots that didn't point which made my kicks horrible to look at I was so upset especially coming from being a dancer and having worked so hard in the show. It was really heartbreaking if you had to do it over again. What would you do? I do it really man, not at forty seven won't know. Bod- can't handle that at all. But no. I mean, of course, it was the most thrilling experience of my life. Yes. Coupled with incredible pain and backstage drama. But you know what for the most part that was the best one of the best years of my life? So at forty seven what you did do is dance in an episode of dead to me because your characters in a dance class, and that's one of the pleasures of her really angry sad, life. So what was it like for you to dance again? Onscreen frightening because I hadn't danced in ten years. And I didn't have a lot of time to rehearse, I had like an hour at my house to choreograph and rehearse it. And then get on stage. I mean, get on the set and basically be performing in front of Mike, my whole crew, which lake now my friends, and now I'm like embarrassed because, you know, I'm not I'm not top of my game. Like I used to be so it was really it was having to face, like step into a lot of fear. But so is the character, you know, she hadn't danced in probably fifteen years or more. So it was all okay. I mean sore very sore but exhilarate it I was like, oh my God, I miss, I miss this. I really do. So I'm in, in this debating. Period of going back to dance class. Right. You've been critical in in tweets about President Trump. And you've been you've gotten a lot of hate tweets as a result. And some people say, like why is celebrities like way in with political opinions? Like those, like, what are, you know, and what gives you the right? And, and you've had some yet you look on their Twitter and they're doing the same thing. What gives you the right? Yes. Exactly. Which will work in a Bank that was talking about man. So one of the things you criticized for is like you don't get it. And I think what you didn't get what is real like to be like a working American. And you tweeted back, I grew up in an abusive home, now I make it public. Don't you dare say I don't understand. Don't you dare say, I don't understand the struggles we lived on food stamps. Don't you dare say, I don't know. I was so mad that day. Yeah. Second character was in was in a Pissy mood. But what about an abusive home? I don't wanna get into that. But I will say that I come from my, my past is no different. And also probably a lot darker than a lot of people's and I'm not gonna say a lot darker than most people's. I'm saying that I have lived along the same lines as, as some of the horror stories that you hear out there. And I've lived at I've seen it, I've, I've lived through it. So I don't I really do take offence when people think that I've had a silver spoon in my mouth, and that I haven't seen I haven't seen the dark side of life. Yeah. And you know what? In, if I hadn't, then I don't know if I could have played, Jen the way that I did. So, like, that's how I of feel about that. All right. Well, Christina Applegate, thank you so much for talking with us. Thank you, Christina Applegate stars in the new Netflix series dead. To me, it was just renewed for a second season after we take a short break. Our TV critic David in Cooley, will review the new season of the enthusi- series black mirror. 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Black mirror, the imaginative and Thallady series by Charlie Brooker, and Annabel. Jones returns today on net flicks with the fifth season of episodes. There are only three new installments this time around, but our TV critic, David B, unclearly says each of them is excellent and thought provoking when CBS all access on veiled its new version of rod surly classic the twilight zone earlier this year, the general consensus was that the initial episodes in that new series had fallen short not only were they unworthy of the twilight zone of old. They also weren't nearly as good or as smart as a show that had begun in England in twenty eleven black MIR watching that shows three brand new installments on Netflix. Makes it clear that black MIR in our current TV universe claims and holds the fantasy and Thalji series. Crown Charlie Brooker in Annabel Jones head the team behind the series, which uses the technology of today, and the possible technology of tomorrow to frame, inform or drive at stories, Brooker wrote all three of these new ones, and their scope is as wide as their impact is deep one story is about a popstar whose personality is marketed in an Alexa, type computer figuring another is about a driver for an Uber type company who blames the social media company for his personal tragedy and third. The most haunting endearing of the three is about to video game playing buddies who more than ten years later. Try out the new virtual reality version of one of their favourite old hand to hand combat games. The guy trying to game for the first time and completely unaware of what he's. Is about to get into is played by Anthony Mackie who plays the falcon in the avengers movies. Okay. What do I do? All right. The show me in the store. You put the game tip in. Don. Now grab the disc do Hickey and stick it up side, left to right side. It doesn't matter. Deng okay. Now, hold down the sink button on the controller nothing's happening having chosen, not fired as you. So I am. Okay. So where's my guy? All right. Lance. Let's go, okay. You have brace yourself praise myself. Come on, you ready. Yeah, I'm ready. Three two. This episode is titled striking vipers after the new virtual reality video game, and it's my favorite of the three because I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. Once the two characters dove into their game and the look and action and violence of their initial battle was established. So vividly excitingly. I was pretty sure I knew where this episode was going, but I was so wrong, and the larger questions that began being posed were so challenging that I ended up being blown away by the ideas as by the truly dazzling special effects. That's not a slight the other new episodes, by the way, each of them creates a new world introduces new characters and sets in motion. A story that ultimately goes deep in very uncharted territory. Another episode called smithereens stars, Andrew, Scott, the sexy priest and the new season of Amazon's fleabag as a hired driver who kidnaps a passenger. That passenger is played by Damson Idris who oddly enough has a direct connection to the new twilight zone series in that show in the time loop episode called replay. He played the student heading for college, but confronted by one dangerous situation, after another, and the third episode, titled Rachel, Jack and Ashley to stars Miley Cyrus as a pink wigged popstar whose manipulative manager has found a new way to exploiter. There's a tiny new hightech toy called Ashley to part, artificial intelligence part talking dancing mini action figure that's aimed at teenage fans and clearly hits the target as when a young girl named Rachel play by Anglo e rice, gets Ashley to as a gift and turns it on with voice command. Well Rachel's older sister, Jack watches, disapprovingly, Ashley lay Cup. Hey there, I'm Ashley to what's your name? Rachel. It's so great to meet you, Rachel you too. And we got him such a huge fan. Thanks. Let's get to know each other. How old are you? I'm fifteen today. Happy birthday. Fifteen is a great age. Thank you. So tell me have you got any brothers or sisters just Jack she's over there? Hijack base. Jack, I think you made a bad word choice. They're just ignore her actually. I'll make note of that fans of the original twilight zone hearing that maybe flashing back to the spooky talkie. Tina episode in which talking doll ended up terrorizing telly Savalas, and jumpstarting generation of Chucky movies. But once again, black mirror is interested in going somewhere, new by the end not only do we get a strong performance for Miley, Cyrus. But we get to consider some very intriguing questions about the nature of celebrity, and the limits and expectations of fandom. Notice that I've said almost nothing about what actually happens in these new episodes that's because regionality and uncertainty. And unpredictability aren't just ingredients in the black MIR stew. They are the stew, and to experience just how good and how different this Thalji series is and has been from the very start you just have to sample it for yourself. David B in Cooley, as editor of the website, TV worth watching and teaches television. Studies at Rohan university in New Jersey tomorrow on fresh air. My guest will be David Kirkpatrick, a New York Times, international correspondent, and former Cairo bureau chief. We'll talk about what's behind President Trump's alignment with the crown prince's of the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia are the Princess agendas in the best interest of the US, President Trump is sometimes sided with the princes against the advice of his own advisers and congress, a hope you can join us. Fresh Air's executive producer is Danny Miller, our technical director and engineer, Audrey Bentham, our associate producer for digital media is Molly, seavy nesper, Roberta shorrock directs the show. I'm terry.

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Emmys Week: Natasha Lyonne & Christina Applegate

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Emmys Week: Natasha Lyonne & Christina Applegate

"Support for this n._p._r. Podcast and the following message come from the u._p._s. Store offering services from shredding to printing to mail boxing and instead of closing this labor labor day weekend august thirtieth and thirty first the u._p._s. store is doing another ing altogether opening the ups store every aiming for small business and and of course shipping individual store hours may vary by location from w._h._y._y. In philadelphia i'm terry gross with fresh air. Today they are emmy week continues with two nominees in the category outstanding lead after some comedy series christina applegate who stars in dead to me an attache leone we own who co created and stars in the series russian doll leone has a second nomination for her writing on russian doll. The main character in russian doll keeps dying being and then returning to life with no clue why leone nearly died in two thousand five while addicted to heroin when she had a collapsed lung hepatitis c. and the heart infection in dead to me. Christina applegate stars as a woman grieving the loss of her husband. One of her character storylines comes from obligates experiences france's after having a double mastectomy. It's an amputation and you physically and emotionally go through so much. When you lose a part of you that's on fresh. I share support for this. Podcast comes from the neubauer family foundation supporting w._h._y._y.'s fresh air and its commitment to sharing ideas. Yes and encouraging meaningful conversation. The emmy awards are coming up soon. Sunday september twenty second this week where featuring interviews with some of the nominees our first interview today's with natasha leone who's nominated in two categories outstanding lead actress anna comedy series and outstanding writing writing in a comedy series both for her work on the netflix series russian doll which he co created when the series begins. She's at a party for her. Thirty sixth birthday birthday drinking and smoking cocaine laced marijuana a little later in the episode she leaves the party and while crossing the street she is hit by a taxi and killed but then she finds herself back at the party and a few minutes later she dies again here. She is describing the situation to a family friend. Who is a therapist therapist. Last night i died. What do you mean last night was my birthday. I went to magazines. We we got in a fight. I tried to leave a fell down the stairs. I broke my neck and i died okay so then back at the party. I tried to leave downstairs breakneck going to heck again. I so <hes> i died died died. I died. I four times <hes> also also my cat is literally disappeared as as soon here the idea of dying and coming back to life has personal resonance for leone. She started acting as a child when she was six. She was a recurring character on pee. Wee's playhouse. She was the narrator woody allen's. Everybody says i love you. She co starred in american pie and start in but i'm a cheerleader and the slums of beverly overly hills in two thousand fourteen. She received her first emmy nomination for her role. As nikki nicholls in orange is the new black nationally owned welcome to fresh there. Thank you terry. We've all had experiences. That nearly killed us. The car crash that was narrowly avoided the stairs. We almost fell down. I'm sure you experience those but you probably probably also experienced the kind of near death from drugs and being hospitalized and i'm wondering how that fed the premise of the show <hes> yeah i you know i mean certainly my <hes> very real experiences. <hes> <hes> wildly informed <hes> the things things that <hes> felt topical to me. You know that felt very tangible that might otherwise feel <hes> esoteric or out of reach kind of these questions ends about a life and death in these questions and <hes> rentals a consumate and ultimately also the things. I find funniest because they're so dark. I'm wondering if you gave certain of your own characteristics your personality traits to the character or perhaps certain characteristics that you've outgrown <hes> for example like your character is determined not to have connections to other people. She doesn't want to be in a committed relationship <hes> and so she's in her sixties and preparing for a time when you'll need someone to help take care of her. She sees relationships as impinging on her freedom and pushes people away. <hes> did you go through that kind of phase yourself and give those characteristics to the character you know. Partially i think that's definitely <hes> <hes> philosophy that i have almost more as a feminist stance of sort of <hes>. Who are you to determine my time line. You know like why is is that legal. I mean i <hes> my father was a boxing promoter. His big dream was you wanted to be like a don king figure and bring <hes> mike tyson to the tel aviv hilton then when we lived in israel i grew up with a lot of boxing in my life a lot of these kind of <hes> tough guy sort of pacino deniro figures and the thing i would keep noticing in them is that they weren't limited by time or this need to reproduce that society kind of puts on as the woman's burden oh so now i'm now. I'm a worthy member of the species because look i've got a partner. I've got my my plus one who can get me in the room from adam's rib here. I come that mentality. So did you want to be a tough guy when you were growing up <hes>. I don't know that that's really changed terry. <hes> the you know seriously out at a little a little less self-destructively. Yes just a tough guy at all you guys of course you're right <hes> yeah i think yeah for a long time i think i thought being a tough guy meant being tough at oneself itself. Like how much can i take and now i think i see it quite differently you. How much can i take really modeled on boxing model right a little bit and i think it's deeper than that. I think i'm sort of you know. My lineage is <hes> <hes> dark survivors. I mean i come from a real <hes> <hes> auschwitz stock so you know hitler was a big player in my childhood and it was this kind of mentality of <hes> surviving and that you know eve no matter what sort of <hes> horrors life throws your way you know that was something that had been endured by <hes> my grandmother and my grandfather and therefore it was kind of the litmus test of you know a a human experience so you were preparing to be the tough guy because your father was the boxer like enduring in the ring and taking was part of the ethic you're exposed to but also the larger ethic of you have to survive on your instincts to survive the holocaust. Most people die but you know. Maybe maybe you can survive and you know it's. It's a dangerous time. I'm always willoughby because you're jewish sounds like a very frightening environment to grow up and where you're always like bracing yourself or something horrible to happen. Open blow or just you know people like finding out who you are area when you headline everything's fine now. You know what i mean. People love russian even though so it's the the good days are upon us <hes> you know. I certainly think it made me very curious to sorta like see what else was out there and kind of being like oh. What's this l._s._d. Let's be realistic us so in your took l._s._d. Did you have like good trips in which he thought it's like there. It seemed like transcendent experiences or did you have like nightmarish <hes>. It's it's. It's it's. It's a funny thing to talk about because from where i'm sitting now i'm so glad for all of these experiences you know they really are the things that <hes> you know shape the very specific point of view <hes> maiming a done enough sort of <hes> <hes> psychedelics then. I like to get very jewish when i say that i'd done enough sort of psychedelics that tell you times were up in somebody. The word bound. Could you got a good batch acid. They're gonna betcha shrooms who knows where it takes you. That's what my rabbi. I always used to say. I'm sure so you so you studied talmud pretty seriously because when you were younger and when i wasn't dropping acid when you weren't talmud together nicely melby mill. I'm gonna do the rest of it. Okay okay so i'm sorry this is another addiction related question though sure that now no i've spoken to people who had like opioid issues you know they had been addicted it to opioids but then they ended up like in the hospital or with a broken arm or something and the doctor wants to put them on painkillers and they didn't want to go on painkillers because they knew do they have a problem with it so when you had like your heart surgery did the doctor know that you had been addicted and was it an issue yet. We're medical people all thinking that way yet like maybe you shouldn't be on a painkiller but after heart surgery you probably kind of have to be like how is that handled yeah yeah interesting. Thanks subjects. You know my heart <hes> that was from endo card itis which is sort of a junkie staph infection and <hes> you know at the time they they said <hes>. You know you're going to have to deal with this kind of in the next ten years like essentially you're valve is now sort of flipped and not operating properly which can lead to a terrible things namely sudden death. It's not something you want to have happen. <hes> luckily the heart seems to be the thing they've really <hes> correct as far as mechanics go <hes> so when i eventually went in to deal with this kind of you know i've already been <hes> off of drugs in kind of living a very <hes> you know clean life for probably a decade and that was part of what made it <hes> so additionally <hes> absurd and complex <hes> you know having too many ways. I think it would have been easier to kind of get open heart surgery. <hes> you know wile oh deed or something against <hes> sort of against my will just like waking up and having <hes> you know some sort of zigzagged staples bulls down my sternum <hes> instead as it was. I had to sort of like walk in stone cold sober <hes> and i remember holding winging <hes> my best friend chloe seventies hand <hes> you know i'm not a big family person. I just kept being like so. I don't understand you know you don't get <hes> zeal like valium involved here or how does this work and they'd made me a quit smoking so i think they were highly alarmed. When i pulled out my vape cigarette as i lay down table and i was like well this is terrifying. They were like what are you doing. I'm sorry i'm sorry of nervous you know and made it through somehow <hes> and then on the other side of it. Yes you know i was <hes> heavily heavily monitored as you can tell by today. It doesn't seem like it's a big mystery or secret to anyone my drug history so it's not something i really have the option option of lack of transparency around in this life and that's a okay 'cause hopefully it's all of us to someone somewhere <hes> and it helps me to not have have to you know lead a double life can be very forthcoming and <hes> honest and whatever so certainly all these tap surgeons and everybody knew about my <hes> opiate <hes> history and it was heavily monitored but no you can't really <hes> get through <hes> the recovery process of <hes> you know having your rib-cage chainsaw dot opening stapled back together without the use of some pain medication. It's <hes> not something i would recommend a recreationally to do do the opioids or the open heart surgery both are bad ideas <hes> as far as if you have an option to not do those things don't don't do them. You've mentioned that you live with your parents. In israel a couple of years you went to shiva which is a a hebrew school and you studied tom there. You're so were your parents arthur ochs while they were both really the black sheep of these highly orthodox families <hes> but even still you know they were pretty religious religious and i i would say that later in life you know became a real source of questioning you know i'd affectively felt like i'd been almost you know brainwashed unwashed or kind of like in a propaganda machine i remember <hes> when my parents <hes> left to from new york to israel in the eighties i went there with this kind of fantasy hennessy of becoming the next golden mayor she was my big childhood icon and you know the truth was we haven't gone there for zionism at all it was actually tax evasion asian <hes> and so as i began to sort of understand the world i was really in versus the one i was sort of being led to believe if i was in <hes> and i would see like the you know alcoholism and ego and self sort of run roughshod over my family life when you were a child. Your parents got you a deal with the eileen ford modeling agency. How old how old are you. I'm trying to remember i mean i was probably six six seven eight whenever six by eight i think i was. I'm nobody's six. Maybe it was on p._b._s. Blair house so maybe i was younger. Maybe i was four so as before he was playhouse. Yeah i think so i think it was you know how works terry was a model i and segue into acting so and now you know segue directing acting writing producing. What have you that that's the life of a child model baby. So what did you do when you were four in your sign to. Did you get commercials commercials. Yeah i did so many commercials. I remember i did like sixty commercials. All of which i had a fantasy would go into my lamborghini that i wanted to buy my lambeau but nope nope. Data's went into the family money supply <hes> so i did these commercials. One of them was a minute maid. Mama mia the amount don't of concentrated cans of minute maid. I drank would make you sick. I can still taste you know being a child actors altogether. It makes no sense. You know really like i remember pee. Wee's playhouse as a very positive experience because it was sort of closer to imagination land you know the just the idea the of cherry and jambi and that there was like a dinosaur whole the whole thing was sort of such a happy place to work <hes> but by and large kind of cattle title calls and weird auditions and having you know a strange parent kind of bringing your round manhattan and then getting lost by yourself in times square trying to find your parents parents and not mess up the shot even when you're exhausted. It's a very weird <hes> gig and one. I was definitely <hes> sort of exhausted austin with by the time i was sixteen i would say so. Were you doing this because your parents are at as a payday he i thank you know i think they had their own sort of grandiose fantasies. Which is i think something that i really rebelled begins to as i became a teenager with kind of self will i sort of saw acting as my parents dream which is how i ended up going to study film and not to study drama you know i think i thought of that is something that is there fantasy not my own <hes>. I think i always you know at and again. At this point of my life. I'm so grateful for the experience because i love having a life in the arts and it's my whole trip <hes> so how lucky is that i wanna talk. A little bit about orange is the new black because us we talked before about you know having an addiction problem earlier in your life and in orange is the new black which for anyone who isn't aware as is set in a women's prison and <hes> the main character in it is in the prison for having been involved with selling heroin and in your character in it is <hes> someone who's been addicted and even in prison. She's involved in a scheme to sell heroin but but <hes> i'm wondering what it was like for you to get the part in this series and play somebody who'd been an addict and who is now in prison. So how did you get the part art. Did they know your past and the did that contribute at all to them. Thinking of you definitely spent a few nights in holding cells roles. I got a call out of the blue to an offer to be in the finale of weeds. This two part finale uh of gingy cohen's show weeds and i was so excited in it. I was going to play <hes> kevin neal ins a a piece of the week or something and at big orange spray tan a little leopard dress big frosted lips <hes> teetering and heels and while i was in that trailer i got the script for oranges new black and it says name one more time so it felt like a bizarre czar coincidence that i can now see no coincidence at all. I think that she already had a nikki nichols and oranges new back in mind <hes> so it was sort sort of came that way i addition for it and all those things i was so eager to be in it and <hes> in my seven years at orange is the new black you know it was a huge huge gift and kind of healing and <hes> way back to life for me that show in what way was it a way back to life. You know it was just really a <hes> a safe place. It was not shame based. You know when you talk about this. Sort of stereotype of femininity wasn't something that i felt like i had to <hes>. <hes> you know hide pockmark or something you know you get those from picking skin under certain conditions they make you look like ray liotta. <hes> love ralian anyway. You know this was not a show where that was gonna be a problem. <hes> cast of women that were just all so exceptional national in their own ways that it was sort of <hes> realizing that you know we'd been sold false bill of goods through advertising and <hes> certainly a life in show bizz is where there was only space for a certain number of women and those are your enemies. Here was the opposite you know. It was the idea that these are your allies. This is your community. I want to get back to russian. Doll your new series on netflix so your character and russian doll says the line. I have the internal organs of a man dan twice. My age that for example is a very me line. You wrote that. I was wondering if forget it yeah and i think it's so interesting that you said of a man twice my age as opposed hosted journal organs of a woman twice my age that tell us about saying of a man yau those speeches those are really those are the ones who are really what about the one in practical application or this the mail you know i have the internal organs of a man twice my age and is let's smoke. <hes> you know there's really join laced with cocaine just like the you you know the israelis do it. These are all sort of my mini zingers. You know that i bring along for the ride. You've spent much time listing listing all the things my organs have been through and so. I think we know where that line comes from. I think off say it because you know i'm so cherubic in the face <hes> and so it's funny that people tend to forget that there's <hes> nothing but blackout organs in here <hes> and learn <hes> <hes> i associate that with <hes> i don't know i just i off enough with all the he she would have you come on. It's sir twenty nineteen. I think and yeah i like the idea of a character refers to themselves as a man. Why not i mean when i say that line. That's how i say it so so it was a kind of discussion of like. Shouldn't it be a woman twice my age and i was like i've never said it that way and i wrote the things so <hes> it just <hes> these are the things you fight for one leone. It's been great to talk with you. Thank you so much. Thank you jerry. My interview with natasha leone was recorded in may she's nominated for emmys in two categories for her work on russian doll outstanding lead actress and outstanding ending writing for a comedy series after we take a short break we'll hear from christina applegate who's also nominated in the category outstanding lead actress in a comedy series series for her performance in dead to me. I'm terry gross and this is fresh air support for this podcast and the following message come from home instead senior care air bonnie a home instead caregiver works to enhance the lives of her aging clients and their families here. She shares her golden rule for care. I would want her be treated the way i'd want to be treated i come in and take care of her. Duo for personal care needs that she she needs down and make sure sure she stays comfortable in her own home. We have good time. We're best friends to learn more about home. Instead senior cares in home care options the go-to home instead dot com. It's emmy week on fresh air featuring interviews with some of this year's emmy nominees christina applegate is nominated the as outstanding lead actress in a comedy series for her performance in the netflix series dead to me. She was sixteen when she became famous for her role. As kelly bundy the daughter in the hit sitcom married with children she went on to star and other t._v. Shows and to start with will ferrell in the movie comedy anchorman the legend of ron burgundy windy. The people behind her current series dead to me. Describe it as a trauma a comedy drama that deals with trauma and with guilt applegate plays plays gen a grieving widow raising two children. Her husband was recently killed in a car accident. She's expressing her grief. Through anger like in the opening scene when a well intention neighbor knocks on jen's door offering a dish she prepared for jen and her children so you just heated up at three hundred and leave it in for thirty five minutes. Thanks karen really don't have it's my take on mexican lasagna great thing we just don't you think you're alone jeff if an i._r._a. Here for you if you ever wanna talk. Thanks just can't imagine what you're going through well. It's like if jeff got hit by a car and died. Suddenly suddenly and violently jen starts going to grief support group where she is befriended by judy played by linda cartolini who explains she's there because her fiance died of a heart attack but nothing is as it seems in this series which is filled with surprising plot twists and character revelations olive season one is streaming net flicks christina applegate welcome to fresh air. Thank you very much. It's really hard to talk about the storyline line of this series because there are so many reveal so many kinda surprising twists and turns that i feel like almost anything i can say is a spoiler. What we can say for sure is that the two main characters yours and linda cartolini's characters are both dealing with grief life and what did you think of the idea of dealing with grief comedic -ly. <hes> was always says she's the yes. She's the creator ah dead to me. There is always in that darkest parts of of your life you trying to find the humor in life <hes> because you need some repose does and <hes>. I think that the way it's written is not jokes. It's people just trying to like have a minute of away from all the pain they're feeling and i i love the idea of of this grief being so completely messy unexpected and unapologetic especially especially for my character jen <hes> who's operating in the world not from any kind of like thought. She's really just trying to survive. She's trying to keep your head above above water and there's a lot of shame and that shame in like not stopping your grief when everyone wants you to stop your grief. I mean i've been there. I've had times in my life that were so incredibly painful and i in other people's eyes wasn't dealing with it the way i should have dealt with it and that's really hard because you don't so how how else to deal with it but but the way that you are feeling we're you grieving for a person when you went through that or the loss of something else i've lost people and <hes> you know health issues and things like that all kind of around the same time a few years ago so <hes> that that was that was really really dark dark time so i really related to that when i got the script and it's not something i had to really pull from <hes>. It just lives there. It lives in in the fibers of your being in your spirit in your soul. It stays there. You mentioned grieving for health reasons for body reasons <hes>. I'm thinking you're probably referring at least in part to your double mastectomy well. Yes that was a really tricky time yeah. This was <hes> in two thousand eight. Yes so can i ask you. If your questions about that is honore. You've been public about it. A lot of women go through this and i think it's helpful will to hear people talk about it. There's nothing nothing shameful about it. There's nothing shameful about it but the there there is that feeling that's what's there and i think that's that's one of the reasons i wanted it to be in the show <hes> yeah i mean we haven't mentioned that yet. It's it's in the show and and we we we find out about it a little deeper in but it's one of the things that has kind of interfered with intimate relations between your character and her her now late late husband so was it your idea to put that in the show yeah and i think they beautifully put it in there that it wasn't <hes> something that we harped on it was something that jen like very flippantly mentions that you know like what wants to sort of dismiss it at first but then come episode nine when and she talks about the pain of it <hes> i think it was <hes> important for women who have gone through this to to be heard because so often. We're told like people would on constantly say to me well. You know what i mean. The good point is is that you save your life and this button god man when you're going through it. Those kinds of reactions are really disturbing because no one really understands how you actually feel and i think i did a a disservice to myself at the time away by kind of being a champion for it and not being really honest with my own self about how i felt and i think that's why i wanted. I wanted to sort of live that out and let women who have gone through it know that we all feel <hes> in jen's words disgusting sometimes sometimes yes award. Were some of the things you felt. You weren't being totally honest about 'cause you. Were trying to be like a role model. I dreamed to be a role model but it was also lifting trying to lift myself up you know and and and denying myself sort of those feelings because feelings were th- are there <hes>. It's been many years for me so i'm i'm much more use to my life my body now but it's it's <hes> it's an amputation and you physically and emotionally go through so much for new lose a part of you. <hes> especially a part of you that is defines finds you as a female and then all of those other things and it gives you know it feeds baby. He's there's a lot of a lot of reasons that that's <hes> a very personal personal surgery. Yes so you had <hes> breast cancer in one breast but then you got the genetic test your mother had had breast cancer answer to she's she survived and got the test genetic tests and found out that you were positive for the brca one gene which is the gene that is believed to be <hes> connected to breast cancer and that's what made you decide to and ovarian. Oh i didn't know about the ovarian really yeah. My mom had both breast cancer and ovarian cancer and she's bracha. My cousin passed away right after my surgery of from ovarian in cancer <hes> she was bracha. There's definitely <hes> you know apparently at tie between those two things the chances of getting ovarian cancer when you're brock car fifty percent and your chances of recurrence of breast cancer is somewhere between seventy five and eighty percent was as a hard decision to make or are you confident that you had to do it. I was very against the idea of it for a long time. My doctors were trying to convince me. I was very against the idea and then it hit me one day. Just do i want to be having this hanging over my head for the rest of my life and no i didn't want to be in living in that kind of fear for ever <hes> you know i mean we still get checked up. I'm checked up all the time but it was just it was the right thing for me to do so <hes> just one other thing. I want to say about the mistake to me. Is that <hes> you went public with it but i would suspect in the back of your mind. You're wondering not only how will affect your life in relationships but will it affect your work. Will it affect your roles and i love that you cloud unsidering considering. I don't show my boobs anywhere like a concern for me at all. <hes> and i didn't want to go public. I had actually <hes> i had actually kept it a secret for many many many many many months <hes> and then i'd had two surgeries before my mastectomy to lumpectomy is <hes> months before and it wasn't until i was in the hospital for more than a few days that someone saw me and called the the tabloids are whatever's at like if thing too <hes> they still exist they do unfortunately <hes> and had called so they had outed me basically that i was in the hospital and we had to make a statement but i wasn't my plan really wasn't to talk about it because it didn't really matter. It was my personal story but then at the same time you know an m._r._i. Saved my life and <hes> because of that i started my foundation right action for women which we provide funding for women of high risk for their annual emory's and also <hes> a website website that can educate <hes> you to know what it means to be high risk and what kind of steps you can take so there was there was a there was a silver lining in there as well well. Let me introduce you here and we'll take a short break. If you're just joining us. My guess is christina applegate. She stars in the netflix series dead to me. We'll be right back back. This is fresh air support for this podcast and the following message come from each radio with all the jargon investing can feel like a foreign language each raid makes investing acting simple by providing personalized support and guidance in terms you can understand they let you get started in the market with as little as five hundred dollars and then help you learn learn as you go. 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I guess you know i had to play her. As a genius you know in her own mind. She's a genius and virgin. Actually those are my little secrets that i <unk> out about her. You know she's was really kind of a product of that time. The scripted show had been written and they actually had shot the pilot with two other actors playing. Kellyanne bud the just in workout so they came back at us do it. An originally kelly was kind of like a tough little rebellious almost like biker. You're kind of chick and it just didn't it. Something wasn't for me fitting and luckily at that time no one saw fox that first year <hes> <hes> this was like the first sitcom that very first show that that ever aired on fox in it wasn't even really a network will that's what they used to tell us when it would come time for negotiation sleep but we're not really a network no you don't get that kind of money. <hes> anyway it kind of evolved or devolved as if you wanna call it that after i had seen this girl in this documentary <hes> and i went oh my god i need to that's it. That's her so we kind of changed her up to be sort of the product of the eighties of this generation of girls that felt they needed to use their bodies to get further in in the world and the the music was heavy metal and there's you know sorry pardon me like rock sluts and videos and sort of kind of evolved from that idea idea. What was the documentary watch. It was called decline of the western civilization through the metal years. Yeah okay oh there was a girl in it who <hes> <hes> she had just won miss gays and she was sitting there. I believe in a white mini-dress which i had never really seen anyone where they asked her like what she wanted to do after after winning miss and she said i wanna continue with my modeling and my actress ing and i went. That's the best thing i've ever seen in my entire life. <hes> <hes> literally the next day i went to the wardrobe people and to everyone and i said we got the word changing this up. Change it up. Let's hear a clip from married with children so that this was on for eleven seasons from eighty seven to ninety seven thank. You was eighty eighty six to ninety seven okay so something like that so you know it's fifteen when we started so you're fifteen sixteen. I was fifteen when we shot it. Okay so the you know. The series is about about a suburban family. The the father's shoe salesman hates his job. He's very condescending to his wife who he expects to cook and clean but because she sees herself as a bit of a suburban goddess she hates to cook and clean so she just sits around and watches t._v. All day and you're you're the kind of sexualize daughter who is actually of virgin so usually when you entered <hes> seen the first time in the sh in each episode there'd be like these cheers and whistles and everything so here you are making your entrance in this episode of married with children and i wanna tell them that i've got a date tonight. I love ruining his saturday nights. God at sunday. Gotta be a work. How did i lose a day. You must have magnesia what a gilligan do and he had magnesia. I own my god. I don't remember had cooks. I'm losing my short term memories. I'm sure it gets a word you say a lot. So what was it like to make an entrance with such hollering hollering and and and and hooting and how much of that was real and how much of that was like a sign flashing to the studio no no there was no signs. This was all real in fact most of the time we had to tell them to stop because it would it would go on for too long for any of our entrances for for eddie's for mine and we would it would actually start to kind of like mess up the timing timing of of the scenes so we would actually have to ask the audiences to like cool it <hes>. We didn't have a laugh track none of that <hes>. This was all like those two hundred people the like at a sporting event basically you know i tried to tune it out because i if i had like played into that would be a whole other ball game but i had to stay in my scene and do my work do job and hopefully they would stop at a certain time so i could see my first line so the series was considered very raunchy in its time name <hes> so tame compared to what oh i know i know i know but there was pressure from the riot that this was like an anti-family show that was to sexual is is there a letter writing campaign <hes>. How much attention did you pay to none that actually more popular made. It seem more controversial. Oh and more edgy yeah we actually used to send like a fruit basket to terry recall to every year who who start <hes> god bless her because thank you we had a great run because because of that so you're born into show business in a way your mother was an actress and singer. She sang backup on leonard cohen's first album. I thought that was thing yeah so tell us a little bit about her career. <hes> harker started in new york. She was in a group called the bitter end singers for many years back back in the sixties early sixties and then she she made this really beautiful album called. You've come this way before in the late sixties <hes> which was around the time. She met my dad and the she was in l._a. Then at that time and you know continue to act here and there <hes> but she had a baby and she was on her own those the baby with me that babies me there's only me i mean i do have a brother and sister for through my father and his <hes> his previous wife but <hes> you know she was alone and so that's kind of how i started doing it is that she couldn't afford childcare so i would end up going on auditions with her. What were going to she was part of a <hes> a playwright group <hes> and i would end up she just they would put me in the plays because she couldn't find anyone to watch me and that's kind of where it all happened. You were unscreened when you were three months old and five months old. What were the roles and were you playing your mother to call. Do the call them enroll my mother's child. That's the thing is it was walk on. Yes no i play it was with my mom. She was on days of our lives like one or two episodes or something in that character had had a baby and luckily she had a baby <hes> and then she did a playtex nurse commercial but they she had a baby so it was perfect and it's really it's. It's really funny 'cause she's like she spits up less than has less gas mom. This is fresh air and if you're just joining us my guess is christina applegate who became famous as a teenager for her starring role as the daughter in married with children and many roles later she is now starring in the netflix series dead to me which has just been renewed for a second season. We'll be right back. This is fresh air support for this podcast comes from h._b._o.'s. Does limited series our boys. The gripping true story of the tragic events that led to war in gaza in twenty fourteen israel is shaken when three jewish teenagers teenagers are murdered by hamas militants when a palestinian boy goes missing tensions escalate into violence our boys follows the riveting investigation and reveals how the jewish and arab communities were forever transformed based on actual events watch our boys mondays at nine pm only on h._b._o. Support also comes from smile direct club tired of censoring your smile. Smile directs club helps you get the smile you want with. 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What was that like now <hes> recipe cy coleman but now i can talk about how it was a it was really difficult. The audition process was really <hes> it. It was something else you know. I'm a huge fossey fanatic. I've sweet charity was one of my favorite movies all the as my top five of all time i mean this is like was mike like my dream. Come true but i went to new york to audition and i was there for a minute felt. Lake ten hours probably was ten hours of singing audition and then the all the scenes i had to do and then the dancing and i was there for it just for hours but <hes> apparently at the end of the day <hes> after the audition was over and <hes> very wiser came into the dressing barron fran came in and said. Can you give us a year. Her and i sat there and i said can you give me a minute. I mean i was like drenched in sweat and i kind of wanted to go just to have the experience of having a new york audition. I didn't even know if i had wanted to really make the commitment to do this. At that time i just wanted the experience of that so i needed a minute and then i get the call that's i was not convinced of my singing. Which i don't blame him. I mean it's not my strong suit and he wanted to have another work session. In los is angeles with me and it was really <hes> really challenging <hes> the way they operate operate in not everyone in new york but the way they talk to you is not a fluffy like they do out in hollywood <hes> he was tough on me really tough on me and <hes> i thought i was going to like burst into tears many times during that work session it was really really hard and i got back in the car and i call them and i said luckily wanna do it because if they're going to be like this like i you know and they said well psych coleman just called and he completely it like thinks you're magical your you've got the job. It was like say what how did that happen. I thought he hated me. He was so scary <hes> but it was amazing to be around him. This man who's written all this incredible music. You said he was tough on you. What did he do. That seem so tough. Start moving your arm. Stop doing doing it that way. Why are you seeing it like that. Start again. Start like really what you what you think would happen in those in a work session like literally like the orange new getting complete. We like verbally abused <hes> but i think that's just who he you know. He was just very strong man with a new what he wanted. No one's like fuzzy the broadway world you know it's it's a tough job and they gotta make sure you're doing it right. So when we got there it was it was wonderful. Foale amine incredible process was so much fun and so filled with so much joy for me but they're you know they can be tough on you well. Let's hear you sing from the cast recording and this is if my friends could see me now which is such a great lyric by dorothy fields <hes> so here's my guess christina tina applegate if they could see me now that little gang humming birds detail z. wine hide like seaport back though kind of tom great trump's treads thread like wow look where gam tonight. I landed now jam holy cow. They'd never believe it hit my friend aw that's christina applegate from the revival of sweet charity record in two thousand five. Do you just love dorothy earthy fields lyrics on my god though the whole the whole score is just so so amazing i mean and and with size music sake i mean you can't go wrong. When you hear like don't dude at him booed. I mean come on. It's like i get chills when i hear that it's just it's i just perfect so you've been critical in in tweets about president trump and you've been you've gotten a lot of hate tweets as a result and and some people say like why do celebrities like way in with political opinions like thus like what are you know what gives you the right and and and you've had and yet you look on their twitter and they're doing the same thing. What gives you the right. Yes exactly which you work in a bank that was talking about man so one of the things you were criticized for is like you don't get it and i think what you didn't get as like well. What is real like to be like a working american and you. You tweeted back. I grew up in an abusive home. Now i make it public. Don't you dare dare say. I don't understand. Don't you dare say. I don't understand the struggles. We lived on food stamps. Don't you dare say. I don't know i was so mad that day. Yeah i was in a pissy mood. But what about an abusive home. I don't want to get into that but i will say that i come from my my past is no different different and also probably a lot darker than a lot of people's and eat them not going to say a lot darker than most people's. I'm saying that i have lived along the same lines as as some of the the horror stories that you hear out there and i've lived it. I've seen it. I've i've lived through it so i don't. I really do take offence when people think that i've had a silver spoon in my mouth and that i haven't seen i haven't seen the dark side of life yeah and you know what in if i hadn't then. I don't know if i could have played jen the way that i did so like that's how i feel about that all right well christina applegate. Thank you so much for talking with us. Thank you my interview with christina. Applegate was recorded in june. 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John Bolton's Push For 'Aggressive Use' Of U.S. Power

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John Bolton's Push For 'Aggressive Use' Of U.S. Power

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Thanks for listening and now onto the show from WHYY in Philadelphia. I'm Terry gross with fresh air today. John Bolton on the warpath. That's the title of the new article by today's guest New Yorker, staff writer, Dexter Filkins Bolton is President Trump's hawkish national security advisor, he's a former Fox News commentator and former UN ambassador under George W Bush Bolton's aggressive worldview contrast with Trump's 'isolation est. Tendencies after President Obama won the Nobel peace prize Bolton said, homo sapiens are hard wired for violent conflict person who worked with him for for years said to me, you know, his view of his you of life is that it's, you know, cold nasty brutish and short also TV critic, David beyond Cooley reviews. The net flicks dark comedy series dead to me starring Linda Cartolini, and Christina Applegate. That's on fresh air. Support for this podcast comes from the Neubauer family foundation, supporting WHYY's, fresh air and its commitment to sharing ideas and encouraging meaningful conversation, President Trump's national security advisor John Bolton is known as a tough talking hawk a new article about him in the New Yorker is titled John Bolton on the warpath. My guest is the author Pulitzer prize winning journalist, Dexter Filkins, who's a staff writer for the magazine. He's joined us many times on the show dating back to when he covered the war in Iraq Bolton his President Trump's third national security advisor after generals, Michael Flynn, and H R McMaster. Trump was familiar with Bolton's views because Bolton had made hundreds of appearances on Fox News as a guest, and then as a paid commentator on FOX he'd advocated for military strikes on running training camps and for forced regime change in North Korea. Earlier in Bolton's. Career. He served in the George W Bush administration as undersecretary of state for arms control and international security fares. And as you an ambassador, he advocated for the invasion of Iraq and told Filkins he still thinks the decision to overthrow Saddam Hussein was correct Dexter Filkins, welcome back to fresh air. So as you point out in the piece, the Trump administration has no permanent secretary of defense. No secretary of homeland security, no embassador to the UN. What does it mean? In terms of the power John Bolton has now in his role as national security advisor will enough skier visor just by virtue of the geography of that job. It's in the west wing. It's right down the hall from the Oval Office. It's an incredibly powerful position. The the Bolton sees the president every morning. He sees them. He talks to him in the evening. It's just the proximity of of that job to the presidency gay. Gives the occupant in that job just an enormous amount of power so just on its face. You know, you're in the pole position there. But I think in this administration because you know, it's a revolving door in the rest of the government pretty much all the time. Jim Madison's secretary defense. He's gone. There has been there's no replacement has been named. So there's an acting secretary defense. There's no in Bassett or the United Nations. There's no secretary of homeland security, so it's just kind of a big vacuum. I think it's fair to say that makes his job even bigger and gives him even more influence than you would ordinarily have. So I think in that administration when you're talking about foreign policy, you're basically talking about John Bolton, Mike Pompeo. And that's it. And are they on the same page on most things pale in Bolton? I think so I think so I had a funny conversation about about Pompeo and and Bolton together with a with a an unnamed western diplomat who knows them both. And they said, look, you know, Pompeo is really only interested. Fid in what Trump is interested in. So you can't really sit down and talk about the world with him bold on the other end. You can talk about anything you talk about a programs in Africa. And he he's well-briefed. He knows about it. But Pompeo has much more political outlook two years. Name Pompeo is there to amplify Trump's views Bolton has very strong views of his own. Yes, he does. So the title of your piece is John Bolton on the path. I know he's a hawk does the peace imply that he's going to lead us into war. No. But I think it fairly raises a lot of questions, and I think the basis of the peace is this which I was kind of surprised to find this divergence of worldviews between Bolton on the one hand who's been a hawk his whole life. He's four aggressive use of American power. He's advocated bombing North Korea. He's advocated bombing, Iran and. And then on the other hand to the extent that President Trump has a worldview, it is he wants he wants to stay home. It's America first he's pretty close to being an isolationist. He doesn't want. He doesn't want to partake in this kind of entire international architecture that was set up after the second World War. Whether it's the World Trade Organization or NATO or EU. He doesn't want to pay for any of that stuff. And he doesn't want to get involved. So so Trump I think it's fair to say doesn't really doesn't want to launch new military operations. They do not see eye to eye on things. I tried to kind of you know, figure out what it is. They talk about get together for that reason. Bolton have such a opposing worldviews when it comes to the possibility of military intervention or war. Why what Trump choose him? Why don't you choose them? Well, I I think that's a really good question. I think there's two reasons for that one is that you know, I think he's Bolton is kind of emotional appealing to Trump. You know, Bolton was a very highly paid analyst on Fox News. He was on there. Few times a week. One of the revelations is for me was I got to look at Mr. bulletins financial disclosure, which you required to submit for a job like that. And yeah, there's lots of stuff in there. So I think he was he was being paid six hundred thousand dollars a year. This is just part of his income, but six hundred thousand dollars a year to be on to be on FOX. So so every night he he's banging away talking tough. And I think that I think that appeals emotionally. Trump. He's like that he's tough guy. Plus, he just sees him all the time because I they they didn't really know each other very well. I think the other reason is there were HR McMaster had been the national security adviser before John Bolton. And there was a kind of a pretty large group of Trump allies who were who had decided that McMaster had to go. They didn't like him. They thought he wasn't. He wasn't supportive enough of Israel. And and of you know, the the current leadership there, and so they they they pushed them out. I mean, I think it's fair to say they lobbied very hard to get them out. M A M A worked pretty hard to get to get Bolton in. So I think it was a confluence of those two things what did Bolton advocate for as a highly paid commentator on Fox News. I T as I mentioned, he we and I went through a lot of stuff that he said on the air. And you know, I think I think he's finding I should say. But before you answer that question, I think he's finding you know, it's a little different when you're when you're in power is opposed to being out of power, but on FOX talking tough strike, North Korea. If necessary before they acquire an ICBM capability strike Iran in various various ways in various contexts that that's like a- at a minimum of and support Israel in its kind of what I think is a covert or or actually pretty hot war that's going on with Iran and Syria. So really aggressive use of American power. But I think even more than that, not not just, you know, not just dropping bombs. I think that Bolton's worldview is he's extremely skeptical of international agreements, whether they're treaties or again, the hold the whole kind of architecture that. That was built by the United States over the past seventy years, you know, whether it's NATO or the EU or the UN the World Trade Organization all those things which that you know, that's the world we live in in. He is in these treaties and commitments and bilateral agreements multilateral agreements. He's deeply skeptical of all those things, and he says essentially in he he said this on Fox News. But he's been very articulate about it in his writing, which is every time you sign a treaty or a multilateral agreement. You give up a little bit of your sovereignty. And so I think he sees his view of America is as a kind of colossus operating unilaterally wherever it wants. And you know, if you if you pick up friends along the way great, but they're not going to be your friends for long because there's no such things as friends in the international system. There's only interests and only interests indoor. And so don't get sentimental that just carry on. On. And I think that it's a very it's a very unsentimental view of the world that he has. Okay. But Trump fell in love with. With Kim Jong UN. And I mean, they seem to have such different approaches to viewing the world, even when they agree on things because you know, Trump is very sentimental and very angry. You know, like depending on what what mood he's in. But, but you know, in terms of war, an aide one of Trump's age told you that he overheard Trump's end of the conversation with the former his former national security advisor, HR McMaster. And even though he was forcing out HR McMaster, he called him to run ideas past him about who his successor should be an when he mentioned Bolton. The aide said that that he heard Trump say Bolten is a hawk like you. He's going to get us into a war. So if Trump thinks that Bolton was going to get us into a war and of Trump doesn't want to get into a war. It again seems like it's going to be a weird ride with the two of them. It's going to be a weird. Rod it is. And I think the question is, you know, what happens out there in the world and kind of how how it develops because I think Bolton's views, you know, Bolton's worldviews pretty clear, I think we're seeing that gonna play out at the moment in Venezuela. But I mean think you you you mentioned North Korea. I mean, think of how I started my piece with the scene in North Korea. Because I talked to a lot of people who are who are in Vietnam for the summit to discuss with Kim Jong UN. And so when you have the president saying we fell in love, I can do a deal. I I can make a treaty with these people I can persuade them to basically disarm and on the other hand, and you know, Bolton is in the room at the table sitting. Next to the president, and he has written forcefully that we need to attack North Korea. We need to bomb North Korean destroyed in the Hugh capability. And so I tried to kind of I pose that question to to Bolton. I said, you know, how could you do that? You know, how could you sit down at the hut summit when you have been mocking every American diplomat who has done that for the past twenty years in there. You are doing the same thing yourself and Bolton said to me, well, you know, when you take a job like this. You have to realize you're not gonna win everyone. You're you have to compromise, and you know, perfectly reasonable answer. But you know, he has been utterly dismissive of of the entire American effort to kind of diplomatically engaged North Korea for the past twenty years to try to persuade them peacefully to give up the nuclear program Bolton his right that effort has failed. But but the solution is. What is the solution? Basically the solution that he's pretty clearly advocated war. So so how does Trump get his head around? All that. It's a really good question. I think the conversation that you mentioned you're going to get us into a war. It sounds like, you know, it sounds like Trump is kind of appropriately skeptical like I'm I'm I'm on. I'm going to hire this guy. Ben, I'm gonna be careful as well thing about war after President Obama won the Nobel peace prize Bolton said, homo sapiens, are hardwired for violent conflict. So it sounds like he accepts wars. Just like the natural scheme of things. Like, of course, we're going to get into wars. Yes. I think I think that's right. I mean, he a person who worked with him for for years said to me, you know, his view of his you of life is that it's, you know, cold, nasty brutish and short. And and I, you know, I think you know, the world is the world is a bad neighborhood. It is. And so I, you know, the the I think that any diplomat would would go into sort of venture out into the world with with with view sort of along that way, I'm going into a bad neighborhood. And I gotta have you know, I gotta have my hand on my hip and be ready to draw. The the question is, you know, how quickly you draw that gun, and I think that from his writing, and from, you know, years of writing I think he's he, you know, be has a six hundred newspaper articles or magazine articles over the years all of his all of his talks and speeches and his statements on Fox News. And the like he's he indicates to be pretty. Fast on the draw may end. So the question I think properly to be raised is is he going to give diplomacy a chance or does. He does he reach for that gun. I so as we record this in Venezuela. There is an attempt by the opposition by many Venezuelans by part of the military to overthrow President Nicolas Madura. Venezuela has just been falling apart economically in every way. And you write that that Bolton was leading the fight against Madero, you know, in in in the US accusing him of forming along with Cuba and Nicaragua a troika of tyranny in the western hemisphere. You were with Bolton in Miami. When he addressed well, tell us the addressed and tell us some of the things he said. Well, it's pretty amazing. I was is a couple of weeks ago. I was I went down to Miami with with Bolton. He he addressed a convention of the surviving members of the twenty five of six brigade. And that's the the the now aging Cuban veterans of the bay of pigs invasion, you know, the failed invasion in nineteen sixty one. And so they're, you know, they're pretty hard core anti-communist and they love bulletin. I mean, you know, he walked into the room, and it was like they they went. They went crazy and some of them were in wheelchairs, and they were, you know, climbing up out of their wheelchairs to to applaud him, but the bulletin gave. And he's you know, he's done this before, but he gave a very tough talk first about Cuba. But then sagging very quickly to Venezuela. And which I which I think ultimately is you know, that's topic a right now. And so he made it very clear very clear that Madero. Has to go. And that in that that the Cubans who were in Venezuela have to go that the Russians were in Venezuela have to go in that the best way to do that is to change the regime, and I talked about it afterwards. And he it was it was remarkable really how blunt he was I mean, he basically said the western hemisphere, that's hours Russians out and and the Monroe doctrine is alive. And well and the other Monroe doctrine, basically, says them spheres hours. But but I think that what struck me there in Miami was was not just what was happening in Minnesota which is unfolding as we speak. But what was interesting to me was that in Miami was this was essentially, a political speech that this is a campaign speech. And I mean, an American presidential campaign speech, the the, you know, if you take the the Venezuelans in Florida, and the Cubans and the knicker Nicaraguans, I mean, I think you have about a million and a half the a million. Half in Florida, and Florida, of course, is the critical state that Trump needs to win the presidency, and and they love nothing more than you know, the the the Cuban exiles there, particularly the older ones. They love nothing more than to hear a table pounding speech about how we're going to roll back the lefties in in in spear and they were loving it. And they were eating it up. And I think the whole discussion the whole speech was about foreign policy. But I, but it kind of struck me as first and foremost, a domestic political speech ah again as these events are unfolding Venezuela. Okay. But you're right with the twenty twenty elections looming the prospect of appealing to voters may create a strong temptation to launch a military intervention. You're talking about a military intervention in Venezuela. Yes. An and I you know, the administration has been very clear about it. I mean Bolton was extr- I asked him directly. And he said, no, he said he. Said to the contrary he said all options are on the table. And he said that to get the Russians out we got to change the regime. So I think you know, I think Madero. Yeah. Medeiros finished. It's just a question of time because this ministration is not going to permit Madero to stay. And and so I think you know, we're watching this unfold in Venezuela right now, it's just really I don't want to say it's a matter of time because of course, events could unfold in any number of ways. But this this administration is strongly behind the uprising in between behind one guy the the who's leading the opposition. So if we do any kind of military intervention in Venezuela are we in some ways in conflict with Russia? Definitely. Flicked? Well, I think that. I think we're a long way from a mill from military intervention. We're a long way. I mean, the the the administration is foursquare binds one guy though, the the opposition leader and they're supporting him in every way. And it's it's impossible. I mean, I don't know the facts on the ground. But it's it's hard for me to imagine that that that guy would be calling for an uprising in the way that he is with without at least, the tacit approval United States and without the task proof of the White House. But the the I think that our objective is to push the Russians out of the hemisphere and make it clear once again, you know, a lot of the Monroe doctrine that this hemispheres hours. And I think I, you know, Putin's probably watching all that very carefully. I doubt we're gonna come into conflict armed conflict with with any Russians. But I think that but the objective of the White House is to is to clear the Cubans and and the Russians from Venezuela. And and the Maduro regime as well Bolton has been tweeting a lot he's been directly tweeting the people of Venezuela to overthrow Montoro. He's been tweeting leaders of the Madero administration to leave that you know, like, you know, what the right thing to do is leave. And I'm wondering if that's kind of unprecedented to you. I mean, I know Twitter's kind of new in the world of diplomacy, but to directly address not just the people of Venezuela, but the leaders of you know, Medeiros of administration or regime, depending on how you wanna look at it and tell them to leave. Yeah. I think it it is it is remarkable. The NASCAR adviser is typically and historically is not someone who gets out in the public and bangs the drum and and bones doing that, you know, with with his tweets with his political speeches. He's really really vocal and he's really out front. And and that's that's remarkable. I guess is Dexter Filkins his a staff writer for the New Yorker and has new article titled John Bolton on the warpath. We'll talk more about John Bolton after we take a short break. And our TV critic David in Cooley will review the new Netflix dark comedy series dead to me about two women dealing with grief issues. Played by Christina, Applegate. And Linda Cartolini, I'm Terry gross. And this is fresh air support for this podcast and the following message. Come from mayo clinic when you're looking for advice you and your family can trust. And you want support from people who can give you the certainty you need, you know, where to go mayoclinic find out more. At mayo clinic dot org slash answers. We're tacking by President Trump's tough-talking hawkish national security adviser, John Bolton mi- guest. Dexter Filkins is a staff writer for the New Yorker. He's written a new article about Bolton called John Bolton on the warpath. Bolton is President Trump's third national security advisor after generals, Mike. Flynn an H R McMaster. Trump was familiar with Bolton's views because Bolton had made hundreds of appearances on Fox News as a guest, and then as a paid commentator on FOX he'd advocated for military strikes on Iranian training camps and for forced regime change in North Korea. So you described John Bolton as a ferocious critic of Iran, and when he moved into his office as national security adviser in the Trump administration, he hung a framed copy of Trump's executive order nullifying the nuclear agreement with Iran. I'm sure President Trump like that. Because it was it was his order. But did you see it when you interviewed Baltin? Did you see it? He gave me a little, you know, he gave me a little tour around the office. And that was the first thing he pointed to his you know, that this is the executive order. No, find them. No, find the agreement with Iran, very very happy about that the deal so much. That that's a good question. I think somebody told me in my piece that Bolton Bolton has a kind of anal obsession with with with Iran, which is like not explicable. I I think I think Bolton would in his defense. He would say in. In fact, I asked him this question. I said why are you obsessed with Iran, and he said because because of nuclear weapons, that's why think about Iran and his aides said to me the first thing John thinks about when he wakes up in the morning is how to protect the American people from the threat of nuclear weapons in. So I which is you know, none of which is unreasonable. I think when they but they're. But their their view of Iran is just very very dark and it's much darker than the Obama administration. The view that the Obama administration had the Obama White House, basically saw Iran, and they they thought okay, look, these guys are doing bad stuff all around the world. They're not particularly nice people. But we can we can make a deal with them. And and we can make a deal that's verifiable, and which will be in everyone's interest. We can try to try to stop. They're very deliberate progress towards acquiring nuclear weapon and the rest of it. You know, we just hold our nose and that and I was like the Obama view, and I think the the the Bolton view, and it's not necessarily Trump's view. But but the sort of Bolton represents a huge part of of of Washington that believes that Iran is is not just a serious threat, but cannot be trusted to make a deal, and basically the regime there has to be changed as well. And I think. They they don't they don't really say that publicly. They're not allowed to use the word words regime change, but but they're trying to cripple the economy. And I think they're making a lot of progress on that front. So I think that cancel the nuclear agreement on one hand and crushed the economy on the other. And and and let's see where that goes as as one of as a let's say, a senior administration officials said to me where if if we if we cripple the economy, which I think we can do and and the Iranian people decide that in their anger that they wanna they wanna get rid of their government. Well, you know, good luck to them. And and I think that's kind of where we are that that's that's that's the White House policy towards Iran right now. The somebody else told you that. The Obama administration sanctions were to punish the Iranian regime. But these new sanctions are punishing the Iranian people and people express to you in the peace the fear that the sanctions are so tight they will lead to war with Iran as opposed to regime change. Well, I I think that's that's I think that's one of the that's one of the fears. The the I think one of the things that the that the United States kind of bureaucracy, I should say the kind of the experts in the government have learned over the past decade, or so is is just how just how sweeping American sanctions can be particularly with regard to financial controls and financial sanctions the United States, essentially controls, the international financial system. And so if if the right restrictions and put in place, you can which I think we're seeing now in Iran you really can crippling. Economy. And and so what what the Trump administration is trying to do with Iran right now is is basically shut down as completely as possible their ability to export oil. And and that's you know, that's like ninety percent of their government revenue shut down there. Billy to export oil. And then basically drive the economy to collapse. And I I have to say they're they're making a lot of progress in that regard, the I think when when they see when Trump came into power, the Iranians were exporting something like two point nine million barrels of oil a day. They're now below million and they're going to they're going to the Trump White House is going to keep pushing that lower inflation is just is galloping Iran, unemployment is very very high. So so they're doing I think they're cheating their objective, which is it at the moment, which is to cripple the Iranian economy. What what what comes out of that, you know, that that's kind of anyone's guess, the, you know, they they think. They believe I think pretty pretty strongly that they can they can essentially foment an uprising or fomented collapse of the regime. I'm, you know, a lot of people I talked to a pretty skeptical of that, you know, yes, they can collapse the economy, but does that necessarily take us where we wanna go does that does that necessarily change the regime, and because because like the regime, you know, the people that top they're always the last people to suffer. They're always going to eat well, and they have you know, their Bank accounts abroad. So, and and you know, we know that the Iranian regime is willing to kill as many people. Kill kills many Iranians as they need to stay in power as we saw two thousand nine. So where does this all go unclear unclear but the they think they can? Yeah. If we if we make the Iranian people miserable enough they will rise up. Let's talk about John Bolton's background. He was in the George W Bush administration. I it's under secretary of state for arms control. An international security affairs, then as UN ambassador. He was a controversial pick for UN ambassador. He never got out of committee. But he he managed to get the position anyways. So refresh our memory about how he managed to become you on mbassador. Well, it's pretty it's pretty amazing. It really is. Because it it when when when Bolton's nominated to become embarrassed to the United Nations first of all the it was in the middle of the Iraq war. So so it was you know, it was a pretty ugly time, and there was a lot of anger against the White House. And so they they nominated their, you know, their their most vocal hawk to to to go to New York and in the in the months leading up to the invasion of Iraq. There. There was a a diplomat at the Brazilian diplomat who worked for the what's called the chemical weapons convention, which is like every virtually every country in the world is part of a hundred and eighty nine countries, including the United States, it basically bands chemical weapons, but it, but it also if you if you become a signatory to that convention, then it comes there's the there's a mandate for kind of automatic, you know, independent inspections to make sure that you're not you know, that you're not violating the treaty. You're not manufacturing chemical weapons. So this Brazilian diplomat who was working for the chemical weapons convention. I think in Hague was negotiating with Saddam Hussein's government to join the chemical weapons convention, and and the Iraqis were basically, the Iraqi government indicated a willingness to join, and I think in fact, they may have for a time actually joined and whereupon there would have been automatic ins inspections chemical weapons inspection. So I interviewed boost Donnie, and and again, this is two thousand two it's, you know, in the run-up to the invasion, and and if you think back to that time in two thousand and two kind of a lot of people had a sense that kind of that was the direction that the Americans were going, and it wasn't a huge mystery. So, but Donnie told me I thought that if I could if I can gauge the Iraqi government, and I could send these inspectors in they could they could go in and they determined because we didn't think that they had a chemical weapons production capability, we could basically show that and we could maybe helped stave off an invasion. Asian and say look the Iraqis don't they let us in. They don't have chemical weapons. And so he was working towards that end. And and I think, you know, pre-pretty earnestly and again in the in the run-up to the war so one day after the Iraqis at indicated that they were willing to sign willing to come on board and allow inspections John Bolton turned up in his office in the Hague, and you know, close the door and sat down and said, I'm here at the request of Vice President Cheney, and we would like you to resign and Bestana was kind of stunned as as he described to me. And he said, I I I refused I an in. And then he said Bolton threatened him and threatened his family. And he said, look we want you to quit. We know where you're f-. We know what your daughters live. We know where your sons live. We know what your wife lives. It's time for you to go and. And was Donnie told me I was shocked I, but I stuck to my guns. I said, no, I'm not afraid of you. And so the United States that boat and left went on. He he denies is course. But he he the the United boat went home the United States kind of orchestrated all this poet record. But the United States orchestrated kind of boost on his firing they called for special special gathering of all the hundred and eighty nine Member States, they kind of you know, a lobbied very hard for him to be removed. And he was if the story is correct. I mean, I know you're nice saying this. But if the story is true that he actually threatened the stunning and said, look, we know where your wife and your children are that's that's really mafia top. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's boost. Donny said the same thing to me. I mean, he said I felt like it was a movie like a mafia movie or something, you know. I it let let's assume for second. It's true. Yeah. Maybe that's what you know. Hard core. Sharp elba. Diplomats do behind closed doors. I doubt it, but it seems kinda shocking. If if if it's actually true this break here, and then we'll talk some more if. Just joining us. My guess is Dexter Filkins staff writer for the New Yorker, his new piece is about President Trump's national security advisor John Bolton who was George W Bush's UN ambassador and in between was paid commentator on Fox News. Let's take a short break. We'll be right back. This is fresh air. This message comes from NPR sponsor onstar with onstar stolen. Vehicle slowdown. A specially trained advisor can work with law enforcement to help locate slowdown and recover a stolen vehicle quicker and safer. Onstar? Be safe out there on stars available on Chevrolet Buick GMC and Cadillac requires selects paid plan cell reception. GPS signal and working electrical system doesn't prevent theft damage or loss. Details at on star dot com. Wait can be a Forni topic. But life kit is here to give you the facts the scale measures the gravitational pull of the earth at a given moment in time the scale doesn't measure health happiness success effort or self worth here at life kit. We're rethinking wake find it. Wherever you're listening or an NPR dot org slash life kit. My guess is Dexter Filkins. He's a staff writer for the New Yorker, his new piece is called John Bolton on the warpath. John Bolton is President Trump's national security advisor. Let's talk about Bolton's background in nineteen hundred five Bolton joined the Reagan Justice department at their he helped shepherd in the supreme court nomination of Robert Bork. He did not get confirmed in in the Senate. And as you said that began the era of fiercely partisan high court nominations, I think Bork went onto to find found or co found the federalist society, the group of very conservative, you know, lawyers. So. What we're Bolton's priorities back. Then do you know, it's again, he's he's Bennett conservative is whole life. If you go back when when Bulkin cannot law school, he was an assistant to his Yale Law. Professor Ralph winter, and and Ralph winter is a very well known figure in the conservative intellectual movement. And when Bolton got out of law school he joined up with winter. So he's just in his twenties. They take this. What turns out to be a landmark supreme court case Buckley versus Vallejo in in which which was the first big lawsuit kind of the precursor to citizens United. It was the first big lawsuit that challenged restrictions on on campaign spending and giving and and they won and essentially it was Butleigh versus Vallejo landmark case established essentially that money and political contributions is essentially, political speech and that ultra. Led to rulings like citizens United which which have basically just unleashed in house. We now have the system we now have this massive flood of of private money into our campaigns. And that was the beginning at Bolton was involved in that when he was just in his twenties. And so and he was involved in the in the Bork nomination, and he was involved in the Iraq war. So you can you can just chart his career. And it takes you through you. It takes you through the whole rise of the of the Republican establishment as we now know it. Is there anything I left out of the interview that you that you think is really important, and you want to show us before we have I would I would do I think there's one Bolton has aggressively advocated attacking North Korea for years, and I had a conversation with late Wilkerson was chief stuff compel and Bolton was essentially advocating preemptive war with North Korea in the early two thousands like after nine eleven he was going around saying they've got this nuclear program, we have to we have to act now take them out. And it was so disturbing to Wilkerson that in there's a scene the piece where he said, we we ranged we we had to find a way to shut him up. And he said we we arranged for a briefing for for Bolton. So we brought him into the room. He Richard Armitage. Who was the deputy secretary state, and we gave them briefing on on. What would happen? If we went to war with North Korea, and in as Wilders than said to me where he said, it's you know, tens of thousands of casualties and at they laid it out. He said, he we laid it out for John like how many South Koreans would die. How many Americans would die two hundred thousand Americans in Seoul. How many Japanese would die how many Chinese would die? And he said, I'll never forget. What what Bolton said to me looked at me. And he said are you finished? Now, you clearly do war. I don't do war do policy. And and I think that I think that for for Wilkerson, you know, that really stunned him, and I think their, you know, their relationship has never been the same sense. But it was that it was struck him as a cavalier attitude towards towards going to war having a war like that. And I and I just one more thing about North Korea. I remember when I was on the plane of secretary. Then-secretary fence Jim Mattis this in two thousand seventeen and the subject of North Korea came up, and he said if there was a war a war with North Korea would would would be bloodier than it would be a blow your war than anyone alive hasn't has seen. That's how bad it would be. I mean, he got very sober very fast. And so that that struck me as a pretty remarkable moment. And I guess the question that we're left with is. You know, there's a difference between recommending policy and being responsible for pushing. Us into a military conflict with Dez with devastating consequences, and tens of thousands of deaths would Bolton go to the point where tens of thousands of deaths were kind of you know, that he that he'd be responsible for the action that led to it is he well, that's yeah. That's a really good point. Look, I it's one thing to be a highly paid commentator on Fox News and to say, we should bomb North Korea. We should balmy Ron we we need to take action regardless. You know, go forward damage torpedoes that that's one thing. But when you're when you're actually, you know in the cockpit, and and it's in your flying a plane, and you got to drop the bomb yourself. It starts to look a little bit different. And I think I I don't know. I mean, I think this this this brings us to Bolton in Vietnam sitting next to President Trump sitting across the table from from the North Korean leaders on in the. Negotiating the their their nuclear weapons. It's you you never could have imagined that that John Bolton who has who has made fun of and mocked, you know, every American diplomat who has ever done that he sitting there in the same chair himself doing exactly the same thing. And and I I he didn't say it in quite that way to me. But, but I think you can imagine that you you can't you can't be you can't speak as freely as loosely when you're the national security adviser as opposed to when you're you're a commentator on Fox News. And I think he's finding that out right now. Well, Dexter Filkins. It's always great to talk with you. Thank you so much for coming back to fresh air. Thank you, Terry. Dexter Filkins is a staff writer for the New Yorker is new article is titled John Bolton on the warpath after we take a short break. Our TV critic David being Cooley will review the new Netflix dark comedy series dead to me about two women dealing with grief issues, lay by Christina Applegate. And Linda Cartolini this is fresh air. 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And while Judy is receptive. To the soothing words of guidance. From the group's pastor, Jen is a lot less open to the entire concept of emotional healing. So last week we started talking about. Effort. Forgiveness forgiveness can be very difficult, and it can take time even a lifetime. But no matter what the circumstances everyone is deserving forgiveness. You really think that cheese? Hey, man. Excuse me. How do you forgive someone who hits your husband with their car, and then drives away leaving him to bleed to death on the side of the road? How do you forgive that? Yet somehow Judy cracks through Jen shell and the two end up spilling secrets and answering each other's questions in an increasingly intimate all night spontaneous phone conversation. As when Judy keeps encouraging Jen to talk about her late husband has been really like running. I'm sorry. You don't have to talk about him. If you don't want to. He he liked reading. Came to it later in life. He was forty. Let me start. He was getting doing. Yeah. And get that middle aged man puff. Full on beer belly. It's going to be your neck and neck. So he started running. I was proud of him. Of his life. Car had him. By the time. The sun comes up and the women. Hangup. Jenin Judy or close friends in dead to me seem set on the path to becoming a redeeming, heartwarming, buddy comedy. But this is where Liz Feldman starts defying expectations in a way that is so unexpected so creative and so effective that I don't even want to reveal what happens. Let me put it this way, you know, the season. One cliffhanger that pulled the rug from under NBC's, the good place and redefined everything dead to me pulls off a similarly stunning switcheroo in the very first episode more than once. And by the time, the first season's ten episodes are over and I've seen in loved them. All you're likely to be amazed by the journey these characters in this show have taken. Dead to me also includes dynamic supporting work from James Marsden and in a small, but very touching ineffective. Roll it as ner but this series belongs to its two female leads and they're incredibly good both Applegate and Cartolini play their scenes vulnerably an intensely and embody fully believable characters when they share the screen whether they're bonding or arguing dead to me become something truly special like BBC, America's killing eve net. Flicks is dead. To me is a terrific character study of two women with an extremely complicated relationship and also like that show is one of the best and most unpredictable series on television this season, David in Cooley as editor of the website TV worth watching an author of the platinum age of television from I love Lucy to the Walking Dead had a TV became terrific. He reviewed the new Netflix series dead to me. Fresh Air's executive producers, Gandhi Miller, our interviews and reviews produced an edited by Amy salad. 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Dead to Me, I Think You Should Leave, Santa Clarita Diet

"Ooh. Welcome to I'm obsessed with this, the Netflix podcast, the shows and films, everyone seems to be talking about, and why as usual will be having spoiler filters questions of all titles. So check the show notes for Timestamps in case you want to avoid them. I'm your host Bobby finger, and I'm joined today by Kelly convoy writer at large, at the cut, and Katie Haney senior writer at the cut and author of several books, including would you rather? And the forthcoming girl crush high. Welcome to the studio. You have your drinks, you have your you both have identical coffees very easy on me and nice hot. I thought interesting because I got cold ice coffee person. Now, me neither fine with the with the milk offerings. They had they had cream hol- and skim. And then the audio they always put the almond and the oath bind the counter, and you have to ask. So I assume that was half and half but does it tastes like half an F? Yeah. Could fine. Okay. I don't know that I would know this is my second ice coffee of the day, which is totally cool. We're here to talk about Santa Clarita diet. Number one, we're gonna talk about dead to me, the new show Christine Applegate, and Linda Cartolini we're gonna talk about. I think you should leave with Tim Robinson. But before we get into that. I just want to get started with how easily start the show, which is what you've szeswith Kelly. You're inhaling. I am genuinely obsessed with to maybe an not good degree Gilmore girls. I'm in a constant state of, of rewatching Gilmore girls on that flakes. It's not good. I haven't on constantly, I'm currently in the sixth season which is not good. Not good season. She's in college at that point, right? The bad years. But especially this one, because she like, dropped out of Yale, which was so dumb. And then once she gets back into yell. Luke's kit arrives. And it's like, oh, this fucking kid is there that we have to deal with. But anyway, you have to power through because then you can start again in season one, which I will be doing, so it's all about the cycle, you want to start over and get the full story. Yeah. Satisfying. Once you watch the bats. Total. They're seven the seven is the newer one, right? No. That's, that's, that's. You're on the life. Yeah. You know, your life is, is good. I kind of, you know, and it's nice to have something else to rewatch. Over and over again, but yeah, so I guess I'll I'll add that in after I'm done with this cycle planning on just skipping year in the life. Well, I, I watched a rematch that separately, whenever I'm sick of like. Let's maybe we shouldn't get into it. It's deeply embarrassed. We all have these very interesting habits of the way we watch shows sometimes like some shows I'll just like pick around like sex in the city like if I'm just home and there's nothing to watch. I'll pick like one episode that I like, but if it's like others, like enlightened I have to go to the mole thing if it's like I can turn on an old nail that and be fine or this, I think you should leave, which is a new addition, I could just throw one of those, but some shows you want to watch from the beginning in order because it's like reading a novel, Rory and alive. Oh, that's really funny. The way that you said, I it's bad, but I love it because that's exactly everyone. I feel like who loves the Gomer girls says it's bad but I love it. My sister is obsessed with goes on promise has probably watched all the way through, you know, ten times, and every time I say I should watch it always goes, no, you should. It's just really good. But you shouldn't it's really comforting for me. It's not for you. Do not, not trying to fast. That's tried it. Once. And I was like, I can't watch a whole thing of this. I can't believe how fast they talk to clever. They have to get it all. So I am doing I guess, I wanna say second and a half rewatch of the l word it's not great because all the music is different on net flicks from this Showtime, and so there are a lot of moments where I expect a certain like really emotional song to kick in and it's just like the wrong thing, and it wouldn't necessarily be bad, if that had been what I heard I but it's just really disorienting to hear a different song, come in. But there is a, a word recap podcasts that just started on, like watching it, along with them and extensively to prepare for when it comes back later this year is when it comes back is a is a remake or is it a reboot, like the continuation of the store, a continuation now because bet Shane and Alice are all in it, and they're all like. Fifty or close now. So I think they will be there. I don't know to what degree, and then there will be some younger new cast members. I assume that sounds fun. Yeah. Watched a little chaos which I love have you seen a little chaos now. No, it's like on paper. It sounds like really, really terrible. Kate winslet's stars as Gardiner for Lou, the forts. And it's like it's historical fiction like this woman that did not exist. He did not construct a garden for Lou the fourteenth was played by Alan Rickman who also directed it. And then she falls in love with this guy who's in the court, it's like kind of feminist. It's like a woman, designing garden like no but she's very good. It's extremely touching. I think that it was like the fact that I've never heard this camping anything good. But now I feel like I will have. It's really good. Also get this wrong. Extremely wicked. Shockingly, evil and vile is out. Yeah. Yes, I'm it's so hard to remember to say that title correctly but I am very excited. Watch it extremely wicked. Shockingly, evil and vile. And it is. Yeah. Ted Bundy bio, pic, Yukata bio-pic, if it's about a serial killer Ted Bundy. But I thought it was going to be more like campy is not not true. I know I think it's serious. I think when it when it was announced that Zack from was playing Ted Bundy, people didn't know what to make of it. And then it premiered somewhere. I think it's on and people like, oh, fronts, perfect casting for Ted Bundy, because that's what Ted Bundy was like. And I think it's a straight drama Moore like fully thriller. Lily Collins, as in it, which is funny, Phil Collins daughter. There was a headline that I wanna read. I mean it's been everywhere here. I'm just reading one at random from Vanity Fair lily, Collins says ghosts of Ted bundy's victims, visited her while making extremely wicked. So it's very it was a very emotional experience. Everyone's she had a ghost experience. She said, I started being woken up by flashes of images like the aftermath of a struggle. She said she plays though life right? Who he doesn't he plays? Liz KENDALL, the longtime girlfriend of ten formally known as Elizabeth cloak for. I discovered that three AM is the time when the veil between the realms is thinnest. And when one can be visited I didn't feel scared. I felt supported I felt like people were saying we're here listening. We're here to support. Thank you for telling the story. What like a great means. That's really could be really convenient. I'm sure that's exactly like the priority of the victims. Oh, it's Collins, we must reach. The victims are like oh and it's going to be out net flex like everyone's gonna watch. The ghosts are so happy. Katie, also, you love Santa created. I wanna talk about that number one because you love it. Yeah. And you're maybe the only person I know who, like, fully stands Santa Clarita diet. It was just cancel which I'm sure it was release add to pitch Santa Clarita Deitz people haven't watched it. Okay. So it's a show about zombies that is somehow really fresh, I think, for like a well, trodden topic. It's funny. It's gross. And it's also really sweet. You know, the stars are a family who all really love each other and care for each other. And I think that, that's always nice. Jerry Moore's great in it. Timothy van is just to me the most handsome man in the entire world. And I only like four men are handsome. So that's a big deal. Yeah, I don't know. It's just funny. It's easy. I don't ever fully understand what's going on. But it doesn't matter. And I have that problem with most shows so that. It could just be a mean thing. But yeah, it was sort of like the conflict. Is that, that drew Barrymore becomes zombie has to kill people to eat their flesh to stay alive? And then how do they keep that secret from their community basically? And they're real estate agents, which I guess, in the second season. She decides that like the best target for like her source of food is Neo Nazis. Right. So that's great. Yeah, that's good. And they. Yeah, they find a way to make it palatable, somehow that she has to keep killing people, Dexter. Yeah. Which is like tricky to do. And I think that it was a very feminist show like the way that Joel supported his wife and her needs to kill me. And like I don't know. I just think that it was politically savvy at an interesting way without feeling like super heavy handed about it. It's fun how during the show as I do appreciate that. And they're really funny. I was talking about it with a friend recently. And he was like, I don't know who it was. But he was like, yeah, I love. That Timothy always seems like he's about to crack every line deliveries, and that's I feel like in a lot of shows. It'd be really annoying. But in the show primarily because he's paired with drew Barrymore. I thank who's like one of the most charming people on the planet. It's cute. Yeah. Like that. They always seem to be having so much fun which is sort of a cliche thing to say about comedy, but they really do. Like, yeah. Having the time of their lives on this really stupid show. Yeah. I think that they're both infectious and I am going to miss it a lot. Let's move onto another show. That's totally similar in the same wheelhouse. Suburban about real estate people, but knows ambi- is it's called that to me starring Christina Applegate, and Linda Cartolini. I mean, this spoiler. So we're gonna just like lay it out on the table. It's about two women who needed a grief counseling group, and Christina Applegate is upset because her husband was killed in a hit and run. So she doesn't know where the driver of the car was Lynn Cartolini's there, because she says her husband is dead. They become friends than at the end of the first episode. You find out that not only is Linda, Carleen husband, not actually dead even at that. She's the one who was driving the car that killed Christina applegate's husband, so they have this friendship and the central conflict is like can they stay friends of Linda, Carlini killed Christine obligates husband and we'll shave reveal it. Oh, she moves in with her, too. So I didn't know what to make of this show. Lou didn't know about it until suddenly they were like, here's watch that to me. And I, I was like this show is it's thirty minutes long. It's kind of totally all over the place. But by the end I was really satisfied by all of that. They're both so great in it. And I think because they're both great Annette it sort of undoes, any other problem, I have with Katie watched both debt to me and Santa Claus diet. Just describe described it to them. Lee out. You think they compared to think they're complimentary? I think so. I mean, I think dead to me's a lot darker, somehow even though there's far fewer murders happening feel much more. Severe and heavy. And like there's actually consequences whereas in Santa Clarita at sort of just like we'll keep getting away with this, because it's we're killing neo-nazis. And in this one, you're sort of like there's you're struck with a new. Complication every episode sort of like a new layer that Judy Lind Cartolini's character is gonna have to get herself out of somehow. And so, I think it's more frustrating, but also compelling to watch in that way. Because you're sort of just like why won't you make a better decision? And in the case of Santa Cruz giving. Choice. Yeah, I can't really articulate why it was so frustrating to me at the beginning, when I was like every episode. Cliffhanger, especially on net flicks who cares because I can just watch the next one, you know, I can just watch the next one, and then it'll be done. But by the end of it, I really liked that. And I was like, how are they going to keep this up? I just felt I think it was -freshing, especially in the first few because I just felt so bad for gen nom casino, Applegate. And I sort of just like why would they keep like when it's revealed that he was cheating on her? You're just sort of, like, of course, like now, she has to find that out too, and I get why because then the hope for their friendship, but it just sort of felt like beating her over the head it. Have you seen Happy Valley? No other tells me to watch Happy Valley every day. Incredible. Also very hot murderer in it. But it's to me, it had that same, sort of frustration where as Happy Valley goes on. You watch this guy dig himself deeper and deeper and deeper into a hole, and it's just like almost impossible to tolerate and the there's some of that there, I think, with Lynda Cartolini's. Character Happy Valley is now streaming on FOX. And that's two seasons. That's the one I one is way better than the second one but they're both very good in the protagonist is incredible. Okay. She's like fifty Sean lady cop and very cool. It wasn't your homework coli, but you watch it anyway, because your student of I watched I have to be honest, I only watched the first episode, but I really liked the first step Assode. I thought the mix of humor and drama was a little strange like it, it was never funny enough. I felt like but there were some like genuinely like touching moments like when she was having dinner with her sons was like, oh my God. And the, the little boy, talked about how he didn't want the other kids dead today, because he likes the, the Henry, the little kid Henry is so especially clear on and like when she was putting him to bed, and he's like I just want you to be alone that she goes cries on the toilet or whatever. It's really sweet. That, that's I that comes later. Maybe in the second half of the show, where Christina applegate's character. I mean it's, it's when everything's starts to fall apart, like, in terms of their, their friendship but this stuff between Christine obligating the Chiltern it's really nice. There's the episode that I really loved was the one that the balloons they did this like Morial thing that she didn't even wanna do. But it was just because it was some vindictive weird thing with the mother-in-law. They decided to put messages in balloons to their dead bother, and then send them up into the sky, and it's really corny, and Christina Applegate knows that it's corny event. Tits birthday to my house with the boys. Kind of. Morial. We're gonna like. Right mill messages on piece of paper and then with them into balloons, you know. Float him up to the heavens. We're doing. I'll be there don't go out of. See, and then Linda Cartolini as there and she writes and the thing, I'm sorry. It was my fault or something. And she, they all set them free. And it's corny but it's also very sweet. And of the, the episode Christina Applegate, is sitting on her inter back porch and a balloon like falls down and it pops you're like, oh, God. It's going to be Linda cleanliness message. But it's a message from one of the kids and it's like I wish we Hurley still here to play this video game. They used to play together and she likes starts breaking down and then she goes inside. But it's actually, that's I think when the show turned from me, and I was like this is a well-structured show. I'm into this and it's like there's a lot of like humanity here. And she goes inside to play the game with the kid that the dad used to play. And it's like one of those like, you know, yes, shooter games like legal legends like that sort of stuff. And while when she logs on she finds out that he was cheating on her with someone in the game. And so it someone being like I miss you, like, yeah. Like I wanna fuck or something like she's like, I miss, your dick or. Something like, and so it's like a lot, but a lot of those tonal shifts happen, and they confront her at the restaurant, which was also really good seeing thought I love, Liz Feldman, the creator. And I think that she's so good at like these little moments of humor that you might miss on the I watched. But then watching it again. Like you'll pick up something new like when I think James Marsden is really good in it as well. And when he like there's a mornings after he slept with Linda Cartolini, even though they've broke up broken up. And he's like, I gotta get on the Champollion, and he goes on this trampoline Dak. And it's like doing a weird little exercise as he's talking any punching. I don't know. It's it was so funny. And there's a lot of little touches like that. That I think make it really good. And the do you want to know how it ends or are you gonna finish it? You can tell me I'll still finish it. But if you had to guess, I would I want to ask this to you, too, because I think by was like, episode eight maybe the end up associate. I realized how it had to end. I was like get has to end this very spin. Perfect way. And can you guess, like what a final cliffhanger would be knowing that James Marson is Linda Cartolini's, the Stena Applegate, sleeps with Christina Applegate kills him that was going to be my guess? So then it ends with her, because it was in self defense because there was this whole money laundering thing up being thing. And there's this gun that keep showing up and you're like the gun is going to be like this gun is going to be used to kill someone at the end of the show like it's very obvious at this gun is being set up and the gun will missing who has the gun, and then finally Chrissy applegate's confronted by James Marsden because of this, like stupid check, and she kills him any falls into the pool in his dead. And then Linda Carlini tries to kill herself at one point, because she's so like wreck with guilt. And when she fails at that she tries to kill off at the same place that the husband dies, she tries to get hit by a car, she walks onto traffic. And when that this work, she shows up and the husband's dead on the pool, and she's like, well, and then it's over. That's why I think it hath not that I know any. Thing I feel like it has to get a second season. Yeah. If you don't put that amount of talent into a single show, and then end with of humongous flipping or that doesn't really rap anything up when lesser pretty sure gonna go second season, right? Yeah. I would hope so I'm excited. I was very I was very questionable at the show at first now, I'm like, I'm fully on board debts ame-. Yeah. Everyone some others like a really good. Just a nice little line. There was a line that I think about a lot where their, the neighbor who brings her the casserole, the beginning of the season like never shows up again. But when Christina Applegate, thinks that she Linda karleena longer, French. She's like I need a new friend. So she goes over, and she's like, did you wanna come over and the friend is like inning, socialize? Yeah. Okay. Great. So you there. Get your let your your. Yeah. So in bring anything. No, no. I could live something up. I don't work. No, please don't don't do. Okay. Thanks, see later. See later. But that is it for debt to me, unless anyone has any final thoughts. Any final thoughts or is this really good offense? Yeah. So beautiful watching them, and I like that they look their age, which is a dumb thing to say, but I still feel like that's relatively rare. And I was like, and I'm watched Linda Carter lenient freaks geeks, so long ago. And so it's cool to see how she's like grownup in yet. Several ways and Saint Christina Applegate. Yeah. Was on children like years ago. Right. And now, she's like a now she's the mom, right? Widowed with children? Do you like the, the Runtime? I'm into the Runtime. Yeah. I'm sick along shows. Yeah. Yes, it we're an hour. I don't even know that. I would have made it through the I, I don't think I would've, you honestly, I want everything to be thirty minutes and ten episodes great. I watched it in an afternoon. Yeah. I was going to separate it into two days. And after halfway, I was like, I'm just gonna I have to see how this. Yeah, yeah, and you can because it's only half an hour. Yes. Well gushing about Runtime. Kelly. I've been trying to tell you this for a long time. But you have no good car ideas. No good. No good. Car ideas. We're talking about. I think you should leave with Tim Robinson. I should've made you watch that sketch. Is this the one? I've seen screen shots where the guys dabbing. Yes. Okay, something I might cut this out, but we're going to watch it right now. Okay. I might cut that that's insane to keep that on. But what did you think eighty it was funnier than the what I had seen the show for which was not very much. I started the pilot. I was watching my wife and just got maybe forty five seconds in and the the there's the first sketch with where he's like the door. Yeah. And then the second one I don't remember what it was. But it was just screaming. Yeah, it was the, the insurance commercials. It is just screaming. And I just it was just I, we just sort of looked at each other. Like let's try something else. You know, like it just I wasn't I wasn't sure it was for me. But that was funnier. Is I feel like maybe it's a question of just like handpicking sketches? I hate and I hate to be one of those people, but it's like you gotta watch at all, so short, it'll take an hour and a half to watch all of it or less so fifteen minutes. Kelly you or one of the first people that I saw kind of tweeting your love the show. And I had no I truly had no idea what it's like dead to me. I knew we were going to talk about on this episode and I was like I know this is coming up. This seems like something I didn't know about. I think you should leave until it was already out. And then everyone was drawn to it. What, what, what do you think of explain the show, describe the show to someone who has no idea? Okay. So it's a sketch show from Tim Robinson, who was a writer on SNL or he was really in the cast when he was a writer. And then he did the show. Troy tres with Sam Richardson, which was also so funny. And weirdly, sweet I got cancelled after two seasons canceled. Okay. Very sadly. Yeah. So now he is doing this sketch comedy show, fifteen minutes, very bizarre. Just I don't know how to describe it. It's just every sketch starts off sort of an enormous way and then it the humor just escalates into a situations that you would not expect. And I think that's what's so kind of a dictator about it because the esscalation is so bizarre. And also unpredictable that, like, and I think that's a good representation of how most of the sketches work where it's like you think they're going to go in some way, then they go a completely different way. Or you don't even by the end you don't even want to predict them anymore, like the, the, the sketch about the, the birthday presents oh my God, where it's a guy I think my favorite favorite one. Yeah. It's like the way that people turn. Turn on each. Other is also really funny. So it's like everyone usually these sketches star and everyone's like very friendly. And then something happens, like there's this animosity between someone and then, like people pick sides so many sketches end with, like, people picking sides. And then they always end in screaming because I guess that's Tim Robinson's thing is that his thing is that what like yeah. Well, sort of. I mean, there is a lot of screaming trees that is sort of his goatee thing like the sketches always ended like an absurd way. But the thought process is still sort of clear like with the birthday present one, it's like it doesn't make no sense that he would be mad that he would like obviously want to return the gift. So then it just sort of what happens. Claimed the. So they're, they're giving their friend birthday gifts. He obviously likes one. And then when he gets Tim Robinson's, Tim Robinson, like says, you know, there's a gift receipt in their, if it's not your taste, you can return, it sort of like just saying it perfunctory. Yes, but then he's like, okay, and then Tim Robinson. Says you're not gonna return right? Like you like the gift say you like the gift. And he's like, if you like the gift chilly say like throw away the receipt, or can't throw it away or something. Yeah. Which escalates, Tim Robinson eating the receipt, and then he gets sick, which he blames on his friend, not cleaning, his hands, after he had a mud pie in the must've used to small of a slice of toilet paper, when you wiped and you got mud pie on your hands and then you touched the receipt, and then I hate the receipt. And now I'm sick off of your mud pints talking. We could probably six paper, your frigging psycho paper all the time. What I don't like to make a habit of doing is eating pot. Why do you even eat paper, that even make said, it's okay? You guys calm down, which leads to another friend eating another rec-. Beat that the though friend who had the mud pie could not touch to see if it's receipts that make you sick or the shit on the I receive that made him sick. And so that happens. It was the shit on the first receipt, all of the friends, turn on the original friend, they leave and then Tim Robinson dies. Ship. And they have to take him to the hospital, but he's already with someone just like screaming at a dead body. They were all going to go to his house to have a party there. But then he he died in the car. What are your other favorites? Just says, you got birthdays your favorite. You got you got them ranked. I think my favorite is the car. Sweep is definitely one of my favorites. I love the chunky the game show. Regular laptop gonna pay for that. Talk. You can't talk chunky the mouth. Don't go over by me. Snail. There figure out what you do. All summer. Think of it. I love the the line. Parodies was also this go K to. I stay paint from the ground and from all over the graph the preacher's daughter, remained the shooter at my crown, peacock debt, crooked, hammer back, any brought that hey ever exactly phones of the skeletons mind he ate, I world dollars. That's weather coming out tonight. Take gibbs. They're both from you and I love hot dog, the hotdog car, crash someone called the police. Yeah, that's one idea. Or we can work as a team. Find out whoever did this punish him ourselves, maybe take his bare, bud out of his consummate spank him. Maybe you could do it, sir. Not going to happen. Okay. Now, one of us is going to have to do it. Now. Wins getting spanked. Kim Davis house with caper land capable Jake. Why don't you cook something, something simple, like a hot dip for something hot dip dip or something baby of the year? Maybe. What's the name of the baby that everyone hates God? I should have written it down. I don't remember Lee something. Yeah. It was like some like motorcycle. Ye like bad boy name. Jarvis. It's one of those things where if you seen the show all you do is talk about it with other people who've seen the show and just, you know, silver your favorite things you haven't seen the show, then you just sit in front of a microphone and just an odd politely and say. But I'm saying to the listeners if you want to be cool like me and Kelly, you have to watch the show. You have to watch the comedy show. I think you should leave. And if you want to be out of the loop, like, don't watch that, but it's fun. There's something about the show that reminds me of. I mean it's very Tim and Eric. Yeah. Very specific humor that like I'm sorry. I don't mean to pressure you and it's like if you don't like eat. That's whatever that's only fine. But I found myself really surprised that I liked it because I was. I was like, what am I like twenty one year old dude, who doesn't think women are funny? Like I was like, this is this what I'm watching, but it really was hilar- endlich. He it's castle. They're just like people that you've never seen before. It's at the same, but it's like, you know, like jut appetite movies, how it's like just like the same like five people over again. Like all the same people are in comedy. And in this, it's like new people, and it's and he's using them over and over again. And it's just like it's fun to see new funny people because I feel like we're using the same people over and over and over again. And like if it's SNL people if it's I don't know just like that appetite crew. It was I felt like I was being introduced to a whole new world of funny and they're older skews older, which I like as well as someone who's getting older. He's like, oh, these people are all in their thirties, and forties. And this guy Rueben Rebecca who is the actor who played car the car. Car, focus group guy, I clicked on his he's been in, like eight million they as going to ask where they found him 'cause the he like he carried that a lot. Yeah. He's, he's been in so many things. And so he must just they must they must have seen him somewhere because he's been in. He's been acting in comedic stuff like he was in police academy five and nineteen eighty eight but he's been he's been in comedy movies, both Spanish and English language comedies since nineteen seventy eight. And so, he's just this guy who they must have known, like I don't see how they could have written that for anyone else. No. You know, like those written for him, and now whole and that whole cast, like per the way that there's actual acting involved in it in a way that was surprising to me because of the ways that they will have to everyone has to turn the course of a sketch where it's like the woman who's sitting next to Paul watching her, slowly, turn on Paul is like one of my favorite parts of the show. And like the quiet laughter then full on like sky. Screaming Tim Robinson. We hate you, Paul. Yeah. I really like that about it too. Like it's very sweet in the way that I feel like when people do sort of turn on someone they always turn on, like the normal person. It's like no. We're on this weirdo side. Like he's making good points. But it's like so weirdly sweet. And like a not normal Sagger in like parks and rec way. It's just like weird sweet. And he's so he so funny, and I hadn't even heard of him knowing Detroiters. Oh my God. You central. Yeah. Did you know about it before were you really looking forward to it? I know about it because Jesse David FOX from vulture kept telling me that I had to watch it because he knew I love Detroiters, which he also told me to watch for like a year before I actually watched it, but he was like, I'm not sure if you're gonna like it because there's a lot of like toilet humor, which, I don't like, and then it is so funny, even the toilet humor is humor. Like I love the one where he's like I wrote down the quote. When when they put a Whoopie cushion on his. And then he like freaks out because like very stinky. Yeah, that the quote, ever down is that the Joe that I farted no-one barbed, 'cause that's pretty funny, actually everyone has to watch participate. Yeah. Kellyann, your tears. He's out of the loop. I'm really sorry. Sorry for my show. I'm like, no. It's too late to say, watch much. On. I mean I'm gonna I'm gonna finish these three I fully am these. I do I do like because it fills shits creaky and void also because I've watched all the head of the you know, you were tied. We're on this show is not a show. You watch kind of passively like those of this show, you real many episodes, are there of the six or seven six oh, and only fifteen minutes, minutes, six to real quick. This job. It's so good. It's really it's extremely good. It just makes me so happy. Like, I can't believe it exists. I'm so happy that it exists it's extremely funny. How many times going to say this funny moving? All we got some calls. I'm gonna play two of the calls from our listeners. Don't forget, you can call in to I'm obsessed with us at seven five four. Call Bob and share your own current obsessions. I'm gonna play two of them right now. Are you received a bunch of Harvard fish, but I am obsessed with the movie someone great with Tinari to wonder why Britney snow Paul. I mean, the cats is standing and it is just so. A female buddy where women are just, you know, having today and doing their thing, get so many male movies like this, and it's so nice to have one that women, and it's so nice to have one about women where they're able to go out and you know, drink and do drugs and do their thing and not have it resulting, some crazy terrible thing happening to them, like, because of drinking drought and women are still often trade in shows doing drugs, any, you know, very much groupie teddy, you know, their entire lives ruined type of way. And it's so refreshing to see women doing their things I'm having like a messy day, but then at the end of the day, they're really have your together and are, you know, big jobs, and whatever, and the dialogue is incredible. I feel like exactly how women female friendships are in this day and age. And to sound talking credible soundtrack is I didn't know who was before. And I can't listen care. So thanks. Bye. So everyone has been talking about someone great. I watched it last week. It's one of those good rub comforts. Like, it's the friendships more than the it's the Ron the Ron come com comes first and the real romance is between friends, but it starts Gina Rodriguez. Look heat Stanfield and Brittany snow of all people. Britney snow is so funny, and she's not in enough stuff like she's really, really good. She's very goodness. I think she's like she's she's a standout on this, but also they're all good in like John Tucker must die one of my favorites. It's really good. There's like some updated gender stuff for sure. But if you are ready to accept that it's really funny. We have one more recommendation than maybe Juanita is so sweet and wonderful and nobody's seen it. And I don't know why nobody's talking about it. It's completely. Surprising is everything you've ever wanted to NFL at least everything I've wanted in film, that I didn't know I want it. Charming, unexpected human, not white. I really liked it. Tell me what you think by when he has been on my list for a really long time. And this call convinced me to watch it and with that I think we are finished Katie and Kelly for coming. This was a lot of fun. Thank you, Katie. I'm very sorry about Santa Clarita diet. And once again, call seven five four call Bob and show, your own current obsessions. And we might discuss on a future episode thinks listening to I'm obsessed with this. We'll see you in two weeks. Another episode.

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Best Of: Christina Applegate / The Future Of Food

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Best Of: Christina Applegate / The Future Of Food

"From WHYY in Philadelphia. I'm Terry gross with fresh air weekend today. Christina applegate. She stars in the new Netflix comedy, drama series, dead to me, as a woman, grieving, the loss of her husband, how do you forgive someone who hits her husband with their car and then drives away leaving him to bleed to death on the side of the road? How do you forgive that Applegate became famous as a teenager playing Kelly Bundy, the daughter in married with children? Also, we talk about high tech food, designed to survive the extremes of weather in the era of climate change with journalists amend a little she visited a laboratory that grows meat cultured from animal cells. The laboratory meat that I tried was duck meat that had been freshly harvested, from a bio reactor in Berkeley, California, she'll tell us how it tasted and David, in Cooley, reviews. The new season of black mirror. Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from the Annie E, Casey foundation developing solutions to support strong families and communities to help ensure a brighter future for America's children. More information is available at eighty CF dot org. My guest, Christina Applegate, was a teenager when she became famous for her role as Kelly Bundy, the daughter in the hit sitcom married with children. She went on to star and other TV shows and to start with will Ferrell in the movie comedy anchorman, the legend of Ron burgundy now Applegate stars in the new Netflix series dead to me, which the people behind the series describe, as a trauma, d a comedy drama that deals with trauma, and with guilt Applegate plays gen a grieving widow raising two children. Her husband was recently killed in a car accident. She's expressing her grief through anger, like in the opening scene when a well intention neighbor knocks on jen's door offering a dish. She's prepared for Jen and her children. So you just heated up at three hundred and leave it in for thirty five minutes. Thanks. Karen really don't have. It's my take on Mexican lasagna, gray. It's nothing. We just don't you think you're alone? Jeff and I are. Here for you, if you ever wanna talk. Thanks, just can't imagine what you're going through. Well, it's like, if Jeff got hit by a car and died suddenly and violently like that. Jen starts going to a grief support group where she is befriended by Judy played by Linda Cartolini who explained she's there, because her fiance died of a heart attack. But nothing is as it seems in this series, which is filled with surprising plot. Twists and character. Revelations all of season, one is streaming on Netflix. This week the series was renewed for a second season Christina Applegate, welcome to fresh air. Thank you very much. It's really hard to talk about the storyline of the series because there are so many reveal so many kinda surprising twists and turns that I feel like almost anything I can say is a spoiler. How do you deal with that? Oh, well it was really hard. When we are promoting the show before it had aired or dropped or whatever they say it Netflix trying to talk about what the premise of the show was because we really couldn't say anything, there were like eighteen different spoilers that we weren't allowed to talk about. So that was really difficult now that most people have seen it. If you haven't seen it, I won't spoil it for you. It's yeah, it was it's, it's been hard to, to not let anyone know because it is, like the every episode has its cliffhanger, and it's reveals in its secrets, what we can say, for sure. Is that the two main characters yours and Linda Cartolini's characters are both dealing with grief. And what did you think of the idea of dealing with grief comedic -ly? What was Liz always says, she's the yes, she's a creator dead to me. There is always in that darkest parts of, of your life. You trying to find the humor in life because you need some repose. And I think that the way it's written is not jokes. It's people just trying to like, have a minute of away from all the pain that they're feeling. And, you know, and also people, you know, I always think that people crying is pretty funny. Anyway. But I, I love the idea of, of this grief being so completely messy unexpected and unapologetic. Especially for my character Jen who's operating in the world. Not from any kind of like thought she's really just trying to survive. She's trying to keep her head above water. And there's a lot of shame in that their shame in, like not stopping your grief. When everyone wants you to stop your grief. I mean, I've been there I've, I've, I've had times in my life that were so incredibly painful, and I in other people's eyes wasn't dealing with it the way, I should have dealt with it, and, and that's really hard because you don't know how how else to deal with it. But then, but the way that you are feeling we're you grieving for a person when you went through the war, the loss of something else. I've, I've lost people and you know, health issues. And things like that all kind of around the same time a few years ago. So that was that was really, really dark dark time. So I really related to that when I got the script, and it's not something I had to really pull from it just lives there. It lives in, in the fibers of your being in, in your spirit in your soul. It stays there. You mentioned grieving for health reasons, for body reasons. I'm thinking you're probably referring, at least in part to your double mastectomy. Well, yes that was a really tricky time. Yeah, this was in two thousand eight yes. So like can I ask you, if you questions about that as on? All right, you've been public about it. A lot of women go through this, and I think it's helpful. To hear people talk about it. There's nothing. There's nothing shameful about it. There's nothing shameful about it. But the there, there is that feeling that's there. And I think that's, that's one of the reasons I wanted it to be in the show. Yeah, we haven't mentioned that yet, it's it's in the show. And, and we, we find out about it a little deeper in, but it's one of the things that has kind of interfered with intimate relations between your character and her her late husband. So was it your idea to put that in the show? Yeah. And I think they beautifully put it in there that it wasn't something that we harped on. It was something that, Jen, like very flippantly kind of mentioned that, you know, like want wants to sort of dismiss it at first, but then come episode nine when she talks about the pain of it, I think it was important for women who have gone through this to, to be heard. Because so often we're told like, you know, people would on constantly say to me, well, you know what? I mean, the good point is, is that you save your life. And this button, God man, when you're going through it, those kinds of reactions are really disturbing because no one really understands. How you actually feel and I think I did a disservice to myself at the time in a way by kind of being a champion for it, and not being really honest with my own self about how I felt and I think that's why I wanted I wanted to sort of live that out and let women who have gone through it know that it's that we all feel in jen's words, disgusting, sometimes, yes, a what were some of the things you felt you weren't being totally honest about 'cause you were trying to be like, a, a role model I was drained to be a role model but that was also lifting trying to lift myself up, you know and, and. In denying myself sort of those feelings because this feelings were are there. It's been many years for me. So I'm I'm much more used to, you know, my, my life my body now. You know. But it's, it's a, you know, it's an it's an amputation, and, and you physically and emotionally go through so much when you lose a part of you, especially a part of you, that is defines you as female, and then all of those other things, and it gives you know, it feeds baby. He's, there's a lot of a lot of reasons that it's a very personal surgery. Were you already a mother when you had the double mastectomy? No, I was not. So you became a mother afterwards, I did, which means you did not breastfeed. I did not. And guess what? She's completely healthy rice, smart, and brilliant and rightly attached to her. Mommy, so you must have really kind of missed the idea of having breasts when you came. Other. Yeah. That was difficult. I really I, I that was sad because I really, I would hold her and be feeding her and really had wanted to have that experience something that I will never be able to have an it was, you know, it was I went through a lot with that. But I you know, had I not had the surgery, I wouldn't have had a child because I would not be alive. So it it all kind of. Was okay. Yeah. So you had breast cancer in one breast. But then you got the genetic test your mother had had breast cancer, too. She's she survived, and you got the test, the genetic tests, and found that you were positive for the brecca one, gene. Which is the gene, that is believed to be connected to breast cancer. And that's what made you decide to and ovarian. Oh, I didn't know about the ovarian. Really? Yeah. My mom had both breast cancer and ovarian cancer, and she's Bracha my cousin passed away right after my surgery of from ovarian cancer. She was Bracha so, yeah, there's, there's definitely, you know, the parents had tie between those two things are the chances of getting ovarian cancer. When you're Brock are fifty percent and your chances of recurrence of breast cancer is somewhere between seventy five and eighty percent was a hard decision to. Makeover you confident that you had to do it. I was very against the idea of it for a long time. My doctors were trying to convince me I was very against the idea. And then it hit me. One day, just do I wanna be having this hanging over my head for the rest of my life. And no, I didn't want to be living in that kind of fear for ever. It just was the right thing for me to do. Did you say goodbye to your breasts before before I love hearing people talk about the rituals? They go through right before that, because it's, it's, it's so interesting that women come up with ways of like saying goodbye to that part of their body. I took pictures. I don't know where they are. That's helpful. That was a long time ago. I have no idea where they are. But there. Yeah. They were good. So I was pretty bummed. They were good set. So just one other thing I want to say about the most ectomy is that you went public with it. But I would suspect in the back of your mind, who are wondering, not only how will will affect your life and relationships, but will it affect your work. Will it affect your roles? And I love that you considering I don't show my boobs anywhere like a concern for me at all. And I didn't want to go public. I had actually I had actually kept it a secret for many, many, many, many months, and then I'd had two surgeries before my mistake me to lumpectomy is months before, and it wasn't until I was in the hospital for more than a few days, that someone saw me and called the, the tabloids are whatever is like if thing do they still exist. They do may, unfortunately and had called. So they had outed me, basically that I was in the hospital and we had to make a statement. But I wasn't like my plan really wasn't to talk about it because it didn't really matter. It was my personal story. But then at the same time, you know, an MRI saved my life and because of that, I started my foundation right action for women, which we provide funding for women of high risk for their annual Emory's and also a website that can educate you to know what it means to be high risk. And what kind of steps you can take? So that started right in two thousand and eight so there was a silver lining in there as well. My guest is Christina Applegate. She stars in the Netflix series dead to me. We'll talk more after a break and TV critic David in Cooley, will review the new season of black mirror. I'm Terry gross in this is fresh air weekend. We'd like to thank our sponsor who brings you this message. Discover who alerts you, if they find your social security number on any one of thousands of risky websites. Discover believes there are some things you just need to know. It's just another way. Discover looks out for you not just your account and best of all social security alerts are free for discover card members all you have to do is sign up online. Learn more at discover dot com slash free alerts. Limitations apply. That's get back to my interview with Christina Applegate, who became famous as a teenager for her starring role as the daughter in married with children. And many roles later. She is now starring in the Netflix series dead to me, which has just been renewed for a second season. So you became famous when you were sixteen for your role as Kelly Bundy daughter on married with children. I'm going to ask you to describe the character. Oh, Kelly Bundy, and I'm curious if you can use the word ditsy 'cause that's, that's where everybody seems to use. Ditsy. Lazy thinker. I guess, you know, I had to play her as a genius. You know, in her own mind, she's genius, and Vert and a virgin factually. So those are the, those remind little secrets that I had about her. You know, she's was really a kind of a product of that time, the show had been written, and they actually had shot the pilot with two other actors playing Kelly and bud. And then we just didn't work out so they came back at us do it an originally Kelly was kind of like a tough little rebellious, almost like biker kind of chick, and it just it, it something wasn't for me. Fitting, and luckily, at that time, no one saw FOX that first year. This was like I succumb that very first show that, that ever aired on FOX and it wasn't even really a network will. That's what they used to tell us when it would come time for negotiation sleep, but we're not really network. I know you don't get that kind of money, anyway. So she, it kind of evolved or devolved as, if he wanted to call it that after I had seen this girl in this documentary, and I went on my God, I need to that's it. That's her. So we kind of changed her up to be sort of the product of the eighties of this, this generation of girls that felt they needed to use their bodies to get. Further in the world. And the, the music was heavy metal and there was, you know, sorry. Pardon me, like rocks. Let's and videos and sort of kind of evolved from that idea. What was the documentary watch it was called decline of the western civilization to the metal years? Yeah. Okay. There was a girl in it, who she had just won miss kazaa. Stories and she was sitting there, I believe, in a white mini-dress, which I had never really seen anyone where. And they asked her like what she wanted to do after winning miscues Ariz. And she said, I wanna continue with my modeling in my actress ING. And I went that's the best thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Literally the next day I went to the wardrobe people, and to everyone, and I said, we get the were changing this up change it up. Did you feel that the show was sexist in its portrayal of your character, and katie's the Gauls character? The mother. I think it was commentary on, on people that are sexist. It wasn't there to operate as, as this is what this is. It's it's going like you know, it's like, do you like do you look at Archie bunker, and take it for face value? Or do you think that, that Norman Lear was brilliant and going, this is a slice of American life? And this is actually happening not to compare us to all in the family, which I would never, but I think that. The guys that created it, this was them going okay, these people exist. But at the same time this family would do anything for each other at the end of the day. So the series was considered very raunchy in its time. So tame compared to what I know, I know I know, but there was pressure from the riot that this was like an anti-family show that was to sexualize there was a letter writing campaign. How much attention did you pay to that? None. That actually made us more popular made it seem more controversial and more edgy. Yeah. We actually used to send a like a fruit basket to Terry recall to every year who who started a letter writing him. God bless her Kasit. Thank you. We had a great run because of that. You remember any of the specific scenes that the letter writing campaign objected to. A no but like we couldn't even Erin episode that the women had their period. Like really, everybody. Women get their periods and it's funny when women are together and they're cranky and their this week. We couldn't a or she, I think she was upset about that episode item. Remember, I mean we're talking. Thirty some years ago. So it's I don't really remember any specifics because it wasn't really a thing, it wasn't something that we were all like shaking in our boots about, and that I'm not trying to be snotty about it or, or anything. I'm just saying like at that time, we had to continue doing what we were doing an if we had altered the way in which we were doing things than than other people win. And I always said, like, you know, if you if you have a problem with it turn the channel so you were born into show business in a way your mother was an actress and singer, she sang backup on Leonard Cohen's first album. I thought that was he did thing. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about her career. Herger started in New York. She was in a group called the bitter end singers for many years, back in the sixties early sixties. And then she, she made this really beautiful album called you've come this way before, in the late sixties, which was around the time she met my dad, and then they she was Millais than at that time and continue to act here and there, but then she had a baby, and she was on her own those that baby with me that babies me, there's only me, I mean, I do have brother and sister for through my father and his his previous wife, but, you know, she was alone. And so that's kind of how I started doing it is that she couldn't afford childcare, so I would end up going on auditions with her or going to she was part of a, a playwright group, and I would end up, she just they would put me in the plays because she couldn't find anyone to watch me, and that's kind of where it all sort of happened. You're unscreened when you were three months old and five months old. What were the roles and were you playing your mother to call them? Do the call them role. I was my mother's child. That's the thing is it. And I was walk on. Yes. No, I was played. It was with my mom, so it was we did a Playtex nursery commercials. She did a place tax nurse commercial, but they she had a baby. So it was perfect. And then she was on days of our lives like one or two episodes, or something, in that character had a baby and luckily, she had a baby, and those were those were my first onscreen appearances have you gone back on watch them. I've seen the I've seen. I haven't seen the days of our lives. I don't even know where to find that somehow some talk show, I was on one hundred years ago. They had they were able to get the clip of the commercial, and it's really it's really funny 'cause she's like, you know, everyone kind of talked with, like a mid Atlantic accent back, then, you know, when they're actors like everyone had like a little bit of a weird accent. And she was like she spits up lesson has less gas. That's what my mom. Where you adorable o of? Yes. Well, of course. So since your mother was in show business, and you got started when you were still an infant, because you played her infants or she could do her job with hiring a babysitter did that give her the impression you should keep doing this is that how you got involved in it as sort of organically just happened. And then I mean, I don't really remember my childhood that very well to be honest with you. I. Just know that it was always just a part of my life. I was always doing it in some capacity. I was there like in an acting class. I remember being in an acting class in loving it when I was really young probably around my daughter's age and commercials, and then episode it lasted just sort of happened there wasn't like a goal or anyone pushing anyone to do anything it was just sort of what I did. Also we needed another income. So you know it helps with you know our livelihood. So it just it that is just was the way it was you've been critical in in tweets about President Trump. And you've been you've gotten a lot of hate tweets as a result. And some people say, like why do celebrities like way in with political opinions like those like, you know what are, you know, and what gives you the right? And and, and you've had yet you look on their Twitter and they're doing the same thing. What gives you the right? Yes. Exactly. Which will you work in a Bank that was talking about man? So one of the things you were criticized for is like you do. Don't get it. And I think what you get is like, well, what is really like to be like, a working American. And you, you tweeted back, I grew up in an abusive home now I make public don't you dare say I don't understand. Don't you dare say, I don't understand the struggles we lived on food stamps. Don't you dare say, I don't know. I was so mad that day. Yeah. It's like your character. It was in a in a Pissy mood. But what with this out an abusive home? I don't wanna get into that. But I will say that I come from my, my past is no different and also probably a lot darker than a lot of people's and I am not going to say a lot darker than most people's I'm saying that I have lived along the same lines as, as some of the horror stories that you hear out there and I've lived it. I've seen it I've, I've lived through it. So I don't I really do take offence when people think that I've had a silver spoon in my mouth, and that I haven't seen I haven't seen the dark side of life. Yeah. And you know what in if? If I hadn't then I, I don't know if I could have played, Jen the way that I did. So, like, that's how I've kind of feel about that. All right. Well, Christina Applegate, thank you so much for talking with us. Thank you, Christina Applegate stars in the new Netflix series dead. To me, it was just renewed for a second season. A new season of black mirror. The imaginative anthology series by Charlie Brooker and Annabel Jones is now streaming on Netflix. They're only three new installments this time around. But our TV critic, David, in Cooley says each of them is excellent and thought provoking when CBS all access unveiled its new version of rod Serling 's classic the twilight zone earlier this year, the general consensus was at the initial episodes and that new series had fallen short not only were they unworthy of the twilight zone of old. They also weren't nearly as good or as smart as a show that had begun in England in twenty eleven black MIR watching that shows three brand new installments on Netflix. Makes it clear that black mirror in our current TV universe claims and holds the fantasy and Thala series. Crown Charlie Brooker and Annabel Jones head the team behind the series, which uses the. Technology of today, and the possible technology of tomorrow to frame, inform or drive. It stories Brooker wrote all three of these new ones in their scope is as wide as their impact is deep one story is about a popstar, whose personality is marketed in an Alexa, type computer figuring another is about a driver for an Uber type company who blames a social media company for his personal tragedy, and a third, the most haunting and daring of the three is about to video game playing buddies who more than ten years later. Try out the new virtual reality version of one of their favourite old hand to hand combat games. The guy trying the game for the first time and completely unaware of what he's about to get into is played by Anthony Mackie who plays the falcon in the avengers movies. Okay. What do I do the Soviet store? You put the game too. Been done now. Grab the disc do Hickey and stick it outside left to right side. It doesn't matter. Okay. Now, hold down the sink button on the controller nothing's happening. We haven't chosen that fired as you. So I am. Okay. So where's my guy? All right. Lance. Let's go, okay. You have to brace yourself praise myself. Come on, you ready. Yeah, I'm ready. Three two. This episode is titled striking vipers after the new virtual reality video game, and it's my favorite of the three because I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. Once the two characters dove into their game and the look and action in violence of their initial battle was established so vividly in excitingly. I was pretty sure I knew where this episode was going, but I was so wrong, and the larger questions that began being posed were so challenging that I ended up being blown away by the ideas as by the truly dazzling special effects, that's not a slight the other new episodes, by the way, each of them creates a new world introduces new characters and sets in motion. A story that ultimately goes deep in very uncharted territory. Another episode called smithereens stars, Andrew, Scott, the sexy priest and the new season of Amazon's fleabag as a hired driver who kidnaps a passenger. That passenger is played by Damson Idris who oddly enough has a direct connection to the new twilight zone series in that show in the time loop episode called replay. He played the student heading for college, but confronted by one dangerous situation, after another, and the third episode, titled Rachel, Jack and Ashley to stars Miley Cyrus as a pink wig popstar whose manipulative manager has found a new way to exploit her. There's a tiny new high-tech toy called Ashley to part, artificial intelligence, part talking and dancing minnea- action figure that's aimed at teenage fans and clearly hits the target as when a young girl named Rachel play by. Golly rice gets Ashley to is a gift and turns it on with the voice command. Well Rachel's older sister, Jack, watches disapprovingly, Ashley wake up. Hey there, I'm Ashley to what's your name ritual? It's so great to meet you, Rachel you too. Oh my God. I'm such a huge fan. Thanks. Let's get familiar other. How old are you? I'm fifteen today. Happy birthday. Fifteen is a great age. Thank you. So tell me have you got any brothers or sisters just Jack she's over there? Hijack. Jack, I think you made a bad word choice. They're just ignore her actually. I'll make note of that fans of the original twilight zone hearing that may be flashing back to the spooky talky Tina episode in which a talking doll, ended up terrorizing telly Savalas, and jumpstarting generation of Chucky movies. But once again, black mirror is interested in going somewhere, new by the end not only do we get a strong performance for Miley, Cyrus. But we get to consider some very intriguing questions about the nature of celebrity, and the limits and expectations of fandom. Notice that I've said almost nothing about what actually happens in these new episodes that's because a ridge analogy and uncertainty. And unpredictability aren't just ingredients in the black, MIR stew, they are the stew, and to experience just how good and how different this series is and has been from the very start you just have to sample it for yourself. David B in Cooley, as editor of the website, TV worth watching and teaches television studies at ruin university in New Jersey. Coming up, we talk with journalist. Amanda, little about high tech ways to grow food, designed to survive. The extremes of weather in the era of climate change. This is fresh air weekend. Support for this podcast and the following message come from Exxon Mobil, the company that believes that carbon capture technologies are critical for lowering global CO, two emissions, and more and more scientists agree as a leader and capturing emissions in its own operations. Exxon Mobil is. Working on ways to make this technology, more efficient and affordable for other industries as well. That's the unexpected energy of Exxon Mobil. Find out more at energy, factor dot com. Climate change is affecting the weather, and droughts floods storms, and unseasonal temperatures are affecting the global food supply tech startups, as well as mega companies are developing new high-tech ways of growing vegetables, and fruits, farming, fish and going meet without harming animals. Three D food, printers laboratories were meat is grown from cultured animal cells robots that can weed crops without using chemicals. And indoor farms were vegetables are grown without soil or son are some of the new approaches investigated by Amanda little in her new book, the fate of food. What will eat in a bigger hotter, smarter world? She's traveled to thirteen states and eleven countries researching changes in our food system. Her reporting on energy technology in the environment has been published in the New York Times, the Washington Post Rolling Stone and other publications. She's a professor of journalism and science writing at Vanderbilt unit. Versity. Amanda little welcome to fresh air. Tell us some of the ways in which climate change is affecting the global food supply. Well, let's start in my own region. I'm live in Nashville, Tennessee. And we've heard recently that in the midwest in Indiana. Kansas, missouri. Illinois Iowa there've been terrible storms and tornadoes that have had huge impacts on grain production soy and coordin- particular. I think they've said that there's a historic delay in the planting season because of the sodden fields, the former's just simply can't plant their short crap because they have their, you know, had or haven't been enough, dry days and the same goes for corn in the past five years in eighteen states that produce the majority of corn had ninety percent of their plant in the ground by now. And they have only about fifty five percent because of the rain and flooding. So that's just sort of one example of, you know, the, the, the subtle changes that, that farmers are having to deal with in this case related. Flooding but drought heat invasive species insects diseases, crop diseases and so forth have been affecting virtually every, you know, farm in the world. So this made me think you're right. That the greenhouse gases that now threaten the future of the world's farmers are also largely produced by the farms themselves, especially the big mechanized ones. Would you explain that paradox? That's true. Hits of agriculture has got us into this mess. And now climate change is biting back, and I will say, you know, agriculture is one of many aspects of modern civilization. That's you know, contributing to the global warming phenomenon, but I believe food production is responsible for about fifteen to twenty percent of total greenhouse gas emissions globally, which is about as much remorse, then all transportation forms combined, and, you know, they're huge fossil fuel inputs that go into food production and certainly into, you know, both the farming and the distribution of that food and results also from livestock production methane emissions from livestock production. So there's a cumulative effect that's been very intensive. And by the way, it's be ios beyond, you know, emissions themselves. I believe it's seventy percent of fresh water used by. Woman's flows to farming. Agriculture has altered you know, every inhabited police on earth, and we can see the impacts of agriculture probably more than any other human activity, not just in climate change. But in the way that it's transformed rivers and lakes and land. So it's, it's, it's a story that's been building for millennia since the dawn of civilization. And it's really coming to ahead right now, let's talk about some of the new hi-tech ways of farming. Let's start with vertical farming's is a form of indoor farming. Give us the basic description of how it works. So I visited a farm in Newark, New Jersey, that's located inside an old warehouse that was once a laser tag arena, and it's in sort of an industrial part of Newark, and I walked inside and entered this sort of blade runner, esque sort of cathedral of indoor plant production. They, they grow leafy greens for now, but eventually other kinds of high nutrient foods on trellis structures of these stacks of trays that go up about thirty thirty five feet high metal trays and the plants are not grown in soil, but rather their own into a fabric and the roots dangle down into a nutrient mist that is continually nourishing these these routes. There are other forms of indoor food production that is not arrow panic as you call this one, but hydroponic where the plant. Are dangling in a in a water solution. That's continually kind of cycling through. But in this case, arrow Ponnak indoor production has the advantage of rowing plants with about ninety percent less water, then, you know, conventional in the soil lettuce production or crop production. And that, of course, can be a big advantage in water scarce areas, the lights that are radiating down from right above these trays of little leafy greens, that I that I saw are a mixture of blue and red spectrum lights, that can combine with sort of extra auction that's pumped in an extra CO two that's also pumped in into this with along with his nutrient missed can cause the plants to grow thirty percent or more faster than they grow in the field. A lot of people have given up meat, and that's for several reasons including don't wanna see cattle slaughtered, that don't wanna see animals treated inhumanely in factory farms. They don't want the cholesterol of meat. So now there's like meat alternatives being grown at actually forms of meat being grown in laboratories. And basically, it's it, it's from cloned cells, right? So it's from biopsies cells that are removed from a living animal, and then our culture so they are replicated in sort of what they call a buyer reactor, which is basically a very sophisticated crock pot and the, the cells. Live cells are self replicating. So they actually select cells that can continue to replicate themselves, which is a very which is a natural process cloning. I don't think it's quite accurate because cells do this on their own. That's you know how living creatures grow these cells that are harvested, and then cultured in the laboratory are alive, there so alive that they in fact can flex or spasm. You know, when stimulated and this was really something that this was really got me both excited and sort of semi, terrified, honestly about the prospect of eating this stuff was these cells are, are there living cells. They're just not attached to ascension being, and they in fact die when, when they're harvested from the bio reactor, and then our not fed oxygen any longer, and the S fixation, then kills the cells, and they are no longer a reactive. Got it, but does it have like the flavor of me? It does have a lot of flavor because what we're eating. I mean, in the we consume is just that it's muscle connective tissue and fat, and the beat that I tried, which has a lot of different names for it. We've heard sort of cultured meets as one way of putting it cell based meets is another lab meets is another. But the laboratory meat that I tried was duck meat that had been freshly harvested, from a bio reactor in Berkeley, California. Yeah. In ad quarters of a company called Memphis meets which is not selling products in the world quite yet. But has gotten lots and lots of investments from major meat producers, and there are companies producing loud means that are also doing lab based seafoods and, you know, the idea is that you can essentially do any meat any re- the came from any kind of living animal, whether it's livestock, or fish can be produced in this manner, as long as you can sample some cells, and help them, replicate and row. And in my case, the duck experience was pretty staggering because the and I haven't eaten a whole lot of duck in my life. But what I did eat which was just this kind of a lump of duck meat with salt and pepper that had been sauteed in a pan tasted very much as advertised as meat. And there's a. A difference between the plant based meat products that we're hearing about on the market, like impossible, the impossible burger and beyond meat and these lab meets because the lab meats, are identical on a cellular level to them each we each so their actual meat but they're not derived from plants, the derived from the cells of animals. So right now, culture, meat, or laboratory Meade is in its experimental stages, and it's very expensive right now to what do you think the odds are that it will be actually available and affordable anytime in the foreseeable future. I think the odds are very high. I think it's interesting and important to kind of note that the basic technology for rowing muscle tissue has been around for a couple of decades. And this is not you know brand new stuff, but the you know the work that's being done now. There are probably half a dozen or more startups that are getting very aggressively funded that are working on this, and that plan to have products available. And you know by twenty twenty in the next two three years, Feleti has been pretty careful about not putting you know, a release date on his products. But it's really a matter of scale, and, and cost, and the cost has come down from hundreds of thousands of dollars even for an ounce of this meat to, you know, a couple of hundred dollars for an ounce of this meat. So it's, it's moving very quickly, the the, the progress on this. Now, you say that the most real place that you visited on your. Tour of like new high-tech approaches to food was a place that makes a new high-tech form of freeze dried food that is being stocked up on by many Survivalists right now. So describe this factory shy call it a factory. Yes, it was the chicken pot pie room at wise foods facility in Salt Lake City, Utah, and they were producing little Mylar pouches of freeze dried chicken pot pie that, you know, essentially can be shelf stable for at least a quarter century probably much longer than that. But this is what they call prepar food, right? It's the survival food industry in this industry has been growing very, very quickly in recent years. Just in the last few years, they've, it's, it's more than doubled to one of the concerns is that we're seeing should have diminishing government safety. Nets while we? See intensifying, environmental pressures and a lot of people are becoming more and more concerned that in our lifetimes. We will see disruptions in our food supply. This was foreign to me, because I'm not someone who have never stockpiled food in my own home. But I had relatives and friends, including my brother who was a climate scientists who is beginning to stockpile survival foods in the basement of his home. And I thought what in the world is going on. And how urgent is this problem? So Howard, should I be that your, your brother who is a climate, scientists starting to stockpile food because he's so concerned about the future of climate change? That was the driving question for this entire book. House. Crude are we exactly? I was kind of surprised because it wasn't just my brother. Who's a climate scientist? It was also other people in my life. I was baiting into notice doing this. My step brother, who's a business guy who lives in DC, and has a very urban life was doing this in his own basement, my cousin law who lives in Indiana, is a former cop was doing it at his home. And the company, actually is targeting a new consumer that called guardian moms who are worried about a stable food supply for their kids going forward to these are people who've lived through hurricane Harvey, and Katrina and sandy, you know, lived through these wants enough thousand years storms, that are now happening sort of once every fifty years, they've lived through major blizzards forest fires flooding, and so on, and, and they're seeing interruptions, in very local ways, in their communities, where they can't get to the grocery store for, you know, a few days or more. And they're beginning. To see that this might be the sort of new normal. So what kinds of foods is the survivalist company, making into a freeze dried food that can last for a long time and hope you through disaster catastrophe. Whatever. So their comfort foods, there's, you know, beefy truly and Turkey, Tetra, Zini, and sort of stew. We kind of comfort foods that you might associate with your round, mother or, you know, it's, it's the kind of food as they say that can be high-calorie and comforting in front of an emergency situation. And I guess you probably have to add water. So having it be Stu like is probably sensible. That's right. I mean when I talked into my chicken pot pie it didn't look anything like the Stouffer is version. It was sort of a tawny gruel, although it did taste very familiar to me. It's it tasted sort of, like my, my grandmother's chicken casserole. And so it wasn't as off putting as I'd like although the notion that this would be my sole source of sustenance was pretty scary to me. And so when we think about a future in. In which we may lose access to these foods that are, you know, so comforting in familiar to us, and we may have to resort to Mylar packages, and three d printers and soil into. And this kind of thing, it's really upsetting. It's this is a topic that people have a lot of emotion about, and should, and it triggers this instinct for survival innovation, have you changed, or reconsidered, any of your eating habits as a result of writing this book this single biggest chained for me has been the way, I think about food waste. I like many of us get really excited when I go to the grocery store, and like to buy a lot of leafy fresh things, and I embarrassed when I am not able to use up all the ingredients. I get for certain recipes and sort of quietly throw them away. But, you know, the, the broader problem of food waste is, is pretty staggering. I mean we waste more than a third of all the food grown globally. It. Either thrown out and homes or it rots and transit or is thrown out, because it doesn't meet us that standard and, you know, we have here he unrealistic expectations about food and how it should look. And how much we should be able to eat, and we have an amazingly wasteful society, and that is a big part of the problem. So I thought become much more sensitive to, you know, the amount of food waste in our home. I certainly have become much more sensitive to my own a meat consumption, I have tried and tried to be, you know, vegetarian vegan in the past I love meat, and I've had a really hard time, letting it go, but I have become sort of much more willing to accept an should've experiment with plant based meat alternatives, and certainly can imagine bringing these cell based meats, or cultured meets into my kitchen when they're ready and affordable. And certainly continuing to eat meat and craft meats and support, you know. It's that are sustainably farmed is great. But I am on a limited budget like so many of us. And so, I can't, you know, only by the really expensive sort of craft artisanal meats, and Joe, I've thought a lot differently about that. Well, Amanda little, thank you so much for talking with us. Thank you so much, Terry amend a little is the author of the new book, the fate of food. Fisher weekend is produced by Teresa Madden. Fresh Air's executive producer is Danny Miller. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham, our interviews and reviews, produced an edited by any salad Phyllis Myers, Roberta shorrock, sambergen, Lauren crendall, Heidi Simone. Moods eighty Thia Challenor and Seth Kelly. Molly seavy nesper is our associate producer of digital media. I'm Terry gross.

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The Bittersweet News For Fans Of Dead To Me

Direct from Hollywood

03:39 min | 1 year ago

The Bittersweet News For Fans Of Dead To Me

"Give yourself a moment of happy. With the day brightening thirst, quenching, mango, dragon fruits, starbucks for freshers, beverage with tropical vibes served over ice. It's like a sip of sunshine. Download the starbucks APP to order ahead. I'm Alex I. No I have a new podcast. Let's get into it all about tackling this stuff. You and I WANNA. Know each week I'm joined by a friend and a wisdom tree, and we discuss everything you want to know about money. Love Your relationships, even fitness and mental help I love having deep conversations with my friends. And now it's your turn to get in on it. Listen to Alex Iona. Let's get into on iheartradio, APP apple, podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Direct from Hollywood. We'll if you're one of the millions of people obsessed with Christina applegate and Linda Cartolini hit dead to me. I've got bittersweet news Netflix's has ordered a third season of the show, but it will be its last. There is more good news. However, it's incredibly talented. Show runner Liz Feldman has also signed a new big deal with Netflix's to develop even more shows directly with them, and she's beyond excited, explaining that to. To me is exactly the show I wanted to make, and it's been an incredible gift. I'll be forever indebted to my friends for Life Christina and Linda and I'm beyond grateful to Netflix's for supporting debt to me from day one and thrilled to continue our collaboration. NETFLIX's is making a wise move to carrying Liz for the term as debt to me, ranked as their fourth most popular series of twenty nineteen season two is streaming now. Direct from Hollywood. Tie, this is patron, and I have a podcast playing around I used to play professional golf, nine senior, wanting my cleavage on the instagram. We talk about golf. We talked about life to get serious. We make it funny. You never really know where we're GONNA go with this, which makes it exciting also bit terrifying, because I'm telling all of my deepest darkest secrets to everyone on this podcast because I have no filter. We're talking golf golf tips, Golf, advice but not. Not just our talking about relationships sex how to get a guy. How do we find a guy how to keep a how to find a pro athlete? What's wrong with guys a lot, but we talk about and we fix them foot fetishes, creepy dudes, the scale, creepy instagram comments they hit or a with then we also have TNA now you're thinking of tips and advice. Boys Rats fine playing around on the iheartradio. APP on Apple podcast or every your podcasts. Are All successful people full of crap I'm John, Roya, I'm an entrepreneur who went from being broke it twenty eight to a millionaire, twenty nine to having a mental breakdown at thirty, and then writing a book about the whole experience. My mission is to talk about the grey areas of success like burnout, mental health and all the crazy stuff that happens behind the scenes that no one gets the see. Here on my new podcast John Lewis is show. Explore the roller coaster of life in conversations with the most successful people in the world like creative leaders celebrities on Moore's artists. You'll hear raw hyper. Honest conversations better guaranteed to inspire entertain and educate. Listen to the Jonrowe. Show every Monday on the iheartradio, APP apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts for more info. Go to Roett DOT COM. That's our. Dot Com.

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Persistence wins  actors Christina Applegate and Linda Cardellini on advice they got from their moms. - Episode 056

Skimm'd from The Couch

32:43 min | 2 years ago

Persistence wins actors Christina Applegate and Linda Cardellini on advice they got from their moms. - Episode 056

"Today's episode of skin from the couch is brought to you by prudential prudential helps you plan financially for today and tomorrow. Okay. Let's get into the show. I have to know in my heart that like, it's this or something better. And so I've always sort of in this expectation that something better will happen. I'm curly's Aken. I'm Danielle Weisberg. Welcome to skin from the couch. This podcast is where we go. Deep on career advice from women who have lived there from the good stuff like hiring and growing team to the rough stuff like negotiating your salary and giving or getting hard feedback. We started the skin from a couch. So what better place to talk it all out than where it began on a couch? So please, welcome Christina Applegate, and Linda Cartolini to this live episode of skin from the couch. Christina comes from an acting family and has been adding to her IMDB page since before she could walk and talk. She's been everywhere as we all know from married with children to Inkerman to the stage. Linda also started acting early on and she's been in some of all of our favorite shows like freaks and geeks. And e r and now they're co-starring on a new Netflix series called dead to me, it looks awesome. Where their characters become unlikely friends. There's tragic loss wine, and of course, more than one shocking. Secret, Linda, Christina, we are so excited to have you guys here. Thank you for joining us on the couch. Things is this the first time you guys have worked together. Yeah. Okay. First time we met to. Yes, we just now. Except for like a hologram. The acting. What's a typical day like for you guys when you're filming? Oh god. The holiday run with this of early morning till late at night. I laid it nicely into the early. Lots of driving lots of dry places, and let's cry crying laughing the onset in my trailer. Well. Yeah. This was this was a very I don't wanna say arduous, but it was like a heart. It was a very hard shoot. I think just because the content and what we had to kind of go through was pretty dark, and and we did it was a lot of ours. We like we were cramming ten episodes into a very short amount of time. So we were we worked really hard. But if we didn't have each other, I think I don't know we at least we had each other. And we had he grew at ground school. I mean, not making it seem like that. It was just like for us. It was just like every day was like kind of the content was pretty heavy. So it's was kind of exhausting, but fun. We still had fun. Yeah. So right now, you said got okay. You guys operate the way we operate. I enjoyed it. Citizens are career podcasts. And one thing that we lean into a lot on the show is negotiation and partially because we've been really bad at it in the past I cells, it's one of the hardest things that people go through in their careers. And as we know the world is quickly changing for women in the workplace, thankfully, but especially in Hollywood wanna talk about pay equity when you think about we look kind of the climate now between times up and more and more women, especially in Hollywood, speaking out and kind of calling attention. We're in a moment. And we all recognize that. How has it changed the way that you negotiate or obviously not Hollywood you got a management team and agents. Have you changed? How you're asking for what what you're paid. Has. It changed for me. I don't know if it really has. I mean, I I I asked for what I think I'm valued at and usually, you know, were met with some resistance, and then you say, well the. You apparently don't value me enough, and I don't need to have this job. So that's kind of where I'm at in this life was like, well, if you're not going to give me what I deserve. And I I can I will easily walk away from this. Because there will be other opportunities for me. So which is a really healthy attitude. And I think it takes a while to get it. Yeah. I mean, you know, yes. In life. We don't have always at oportunity to be like, well, forget, you my mom always said to me when I was auditioning when I was younger, she said walk into the room knowing that they need you. You don't need them and to come into to place of power. And that is how I operate. It. All the time is that I don't need you. But you need me. So there you have it. And so there I was never really met with a lot of people trying to take advantage of me is that a much that you say to yourself now or is it just become. So it's just I think just how I am. Linda nossa. My my favorite thing to say is okay. That. So let's talk about de me in particular. The first season is directed by women event. One one man of the Btk. Yes. Community LGBTQ and eighty percent of the writers are female. Yes. Linda, you've said that working with women changes the energy. I talk about that. I do I think that I think, you know, even sitting in a room, that's predominantly filled with with women is different than sitting in a room, that's predominantly filled with men, I just think that people carry their own energy. It doesn't always have to be gender specific. But I feel like because there are less sets that are predominantly run by females. I think when we get there and were there there's a there's a support that is inherent in being in that situation where people are excited to be there together and be working in a way that isn't the norm. I also think it's just I I love being around other women who who are in those positions. And it's just it's nice because the for our show, especially the female friendship. I think has. Been explored in a fresh way because it's really predominantly female, perspective of female friendship. And so I think when perspective shifts, and when the feeling onset shifts. I feel like, you know, for times that I've had to I remember I had to pee in a scene once you know, on for a pregnancy test. Yeah. In this movie return, and it was so much more comfortable because I was surrounded by women. Just something as simple as that. You know? And that's not always the case. Did you know what the makeup of the crew and writers and production was going to be when you signed on? Or was that something that, you know, we knew that we knew that like the the kind of the creatives we're going to be predominantly women. I mean, our our crew is you'll see this. Anyway, it's not like in our industry like crews are much more diverse as far as like female crammer departments and and whatnot. So and grips, and so I've I've seen that much more over the years. So we did have a good balance. But we did have a lot of women and a lot of you know, kind of like more man positions as far as our crew is concerned. But it was a lot of dudes too. But it was wonderful. We did know that like this was going to be, you know, a female driven operation, and that was really important because as she was saying with the relationship that I oftentimes. Female relationships on film are on television are skewed when they're written by men because they have a perception of us of that it's going to be caddy in there's going to have that female relationships have all this drama and whatnot. And really what we all know is that it's the greatest bond is your is your girlfriend in your best friend, and that that's what we needed to have. We need to have something that was really real and raw and true and not filled with all of this like, you know, misconceptions of what female relationships can be you both are at the state in your career where you can be selective where you can say. Well, then if you're not gonna give me what I want like, I don't need this. Why did you say yes to this? What did what about this show is the money? You. Netflix has got no became c. No. I mean, I for me. It was just it was Liz, I had known Liz. And who was created the show? Liz feldman. She's an incredible human being she's witty. She's acerbic. She's smart. She's loving compassionate, incredible humanitarian and just like to know that I was going to be working with someone like that. And knew that the the the group of people were going to be really special, and I was told that this one was special and. That's too bad that that wasn't the case. But. And then we had this really beautiful unique script I had never read anything quite like it. So that's really, you know, you want to surround yourself with great people. And and do something that's about quality of life for me at this point, Linda, why did you say is is just like if for our listeners just we'll Christina's currently caressing Linden, really beautiful. I it was a lot of the same reasons. I think that the environment the work environment seemed to be something that was going to be enjoyable and a place where there was going to be mutual respect and a place that was fun. You know, I it for as heavy as the things that we did we have incredible group around around us all the time. Also, the script was great. It's the show has such an incredibly unique tone. It's not necessarily just a comedy. It's not totally a drama. It's somewhere in between also houses suspense to it. And so there were turns and twists it wasn't just a character driven show like our characters are really well defined. And there there's they're not like two women where you could switch parts, and you would we could switch lines. Like, I've been things where it's like, oh, any female character could say this line ours. They're so well defined and so drawn so separate, but they work together. I thought that was in the, you know, two female leads like at that just. Seem like so much fun to me, and Christina is such a great actress. And I heard wonderful things about her. And I know she's incredibly picky. So I figured that the show was going to be pretty good. No. And Liz was amazing. So it was all those things came together to make it feel like how on earth could I ever say, no. All right. Let's take a quick break. One thing. I have learned about myself. Ironically, I am very very good at thinking ahead when it comes to vacation. I am not so good at thinking ahead when it comes to planning my financial savings. I am not good either. But we can all agree that being in the know is much better than being in the dark when it comes to your money situation. Luckily, prudential can help you see the light and that cash money. So meet Prudential's financial wellness assessment tool that helps you see where you stand with your financial goals and gives you key insights about your financial health. It only takes a few minutes to complete so afterwards, you'll know where you stand and what you need to do next to reach your financial goals. Use Prudential's financial wellness assessment tool to help you assess and plan for your own financial wellness, all you have to do is go to prudential dot com slash the skim to get started today. That's prudential. Dot com slash the skin. Sir. Taking a step back. We talked about negotiating for yourself. But we want to talk about another really central part of the acting experience. And also, I think part of the business experience, which is getting told. No, so Linda, we want to talk about the breakout role was freezing geeks. It was famously cancelled after season, and you found that out on the way to Letterman. I did how did that go? I was so excited to be on David Letterman that was like a dream of mine and the idea that I got to be on. It was incredible. So I had gotten off the plane and into a limousine, you know, and before it was just as as it was like a real limousine. And I was sitting in the back, and I felt so excited to be in New York City a trip that somebody else had paid for for me to go. So I could be like all of those things felt like I had really I was making it. And then I got a phone call from my publicist at the time. And she was like, oh, Honey the show's been. Cancelled. And I said, oh my God David Letterman was cancelled. And she said, no, your show's been canceled, and we'll do still get to go on David Letterman. And they said, yes. And so I still got to go on David Letterman, which was so kind of them because I had nothing to talk about I had no other job lined up. I was totally unemployed by that point, you know, and we just sat there, and he's and it really hadn't totally hit me until David Letterman was sitting across from me and said, so your show's been canceled because the excitement of being done David Letterman was carrying me through sort of. So that adrenalin didn't let it hit. And then I thought oh my God my show is canceled. David Letterman is telling me now, you know, I saw iconic teeth. So it was it was a crazy experience. But it was also a so many of the rejections go there's a new for me, and it may be like corny or domestic there has to be a silver lining or you won't keep going. It's funny to look back in a store like that now, and obviously your career is okay. And it turned out. Okay. And even the show. In those moments like how how did you figure out how to kind of come back from that? Where do you get your confidence from it hurts? You know, it doesn't not hurt. It hurts in you cry or you are upset or you. However, you deal with that kind of rejection it happens, and then like anything else that happens in life. That is not the way you wanted it to be you have to keep going. You know, for instance, like we deal with grief a lot in the show. And it's the idea of like something terrible can happen. But you gotta keep going life doesn't stop you have to keep going. So you can give up that's choice. But are you going to be happy? If you give up. No. So that's what I think to myself. You know, sometimes I'm like, oh, God do I give up now is this assigned to give up now. And I, you know, forty three and I'm a woman in this industry, and I have still not given up. So I think you just you just have to talk to yourself, and I think to get involved in something like what we do. You have a tiny bit of a screw loose. Because the odds are. Against to that like sometimes that little screw loose of like believing that I can do it against all. The odds is my friend, and sometimes it isn't. And and you know in those situations there's just that little piece in you that hostages be like keep going keep going. We talk about that a lot in terms of the entrepreneur world and starting a company, and like the idea of a rally reality distortion complex that like you have to be somewhat off in some way to think that your going to make it and so there's sheers to being. Keep it going. But it's a it's a healthy kind of on Sundays on some, you know, and it's not an illusion of grandeur. It's just that. My mom told me something when I was growing up. She said, you know, somebody in your generation is going to be a successful actress they're going to be the the greatest writer in the world. They're going to be the greatest scientists in the world like why should it not be you? And that helped me a lot because we're all just people trying our best and some people are born with certain talents, and some people aren't and some people are born with persistence that like supersedes all that and gets them further. So it just takes I think now at this point. And maybe you'll agree and I'm talking a lot so stop. But I think that it's okay. I took a nap. Persistence. I think wins to like like now when I look back at people, I've started with there were people who were incredibly talented who sort of just fell into something else or just didn't want in there. Some people who were harder workers, and it just I feel like the working hard in being persistent pays off in any industry in even in the arts. Casino. Obviously, you started you grew up on that like the, you know, I'm trying to kind of imagine in in our world. It's like growing up in a startup or going on in the industry that you end up going into. How did your mom coach? You about knows. Did you remember hearing knows at such a young Okasha all the time? And as a kid, it's devastating. And that's why my daughter's like, I wanna be a child actor. I was like a you can't even have a when I'm like, no you can't have that candy bar just like on the floor late in a tantrum for six hours. You know what I mean? So I'm like, maybe it's not your personality to deal with this. But I I heard no in this industry, especially out of, you know, fifteen auditions you might get one you might get one. Yes. Out of that. So it's you get used to the no. But my mom always said to me because I would get really upset as a kid, and I didn't handle it very well. She just said, it's I'm telling you, it's this or something better. And the something better always happened. It was like one job. I wouldn't get an I swear the next thing was like that. Came along out of left field was so much better than what I had been pining over. So I I've just grown to just know that it's gonna work out. And I I don't I don't know if that comes out is like being complacent to people sometimes because I'm like, it's all good. Oh, good. It's fine. Because I just have I have to know in my heart that like, it's this or something better. And so I've always sort of in this expectation that something better will happen, if we'll be okay, I'm very envious of your outlook. I feel like you are in a very good place of being linked. It's okay. Like, screw them. They don't want me or like, they say, no, okay, fine. What is the stuff that? But I'm not going to say that like I haven't felt, you know, incredible pain when I haven't gotten, you know, like when my show Samantha who was canceled. I like cried in my bad for like two weeks straight like the pain of that being gone out of my life was just I could not get over that. It was such a horrible feeling. That's I remember that's like really the only time that I felt that way like devastated by something. But so I I do feel disappointment. I feel disappointment. Yes. But and this is also like probably a motto that can be taken in the wrong way. But I remember being a kid in hearing someone say to me expectations are planned disappointments, which you can take that either. Way that you want to. But it's not that. I don't expect good. It's just I kind of go like, you know, the universe is going to kinda give me what you know, what I deserve. And what I need. What is this stuff? Like me like holding onto this like something. On when you were working or or whether the king about a new project currently in a project. What is the stuff that stresses you out? Not getting enough sleep. Oh same. I really like even coming to New York, and knowing that like I was not going to be sleeping when we got here. Like put me into a tailspin last week. And then like when you're working on a on a show, you know, a lot of people don't know, you're know, you're up at four thirty in the morning to be at set by five fifteen to be in the makeup trailer to then work for sixteen to eighteen hours that day. It's it's not even the long day. It's I'm not going to sleep. I just know. I'm not gonna sleep now that I have a kid like if we did night shoots. They they promised me that I could do drop off like three times a week. Right. That was kind of like gentlemen's agreement that I could like drop my kid off the school at least three times a week. They're like they would be like guess what? Christine. I think you're going to get like at least three drop-offs. I was like oh because we're shooting nights. Thank you. So I'll be getting home at three AM and she gets up. It's all. We're giving me the with my daughter. Of three hundred sleeps. I was very grateful that they did kind of work at it. They did work at some sometimes, but I would laugh because it was like because we were working till midnight. And I wouldn't have to come into later Dix. How has when a your approach to rejection changed over time? I think when I first started it always felt like the end of the road. And now I realize it's part of the road. So I'm a little bit better with that. And I feel like the idea of like there's something better. I think that came with experience for me, I did not realize that to begin with. And sometimes I saw, you know, it's still hard. You just learn as you go on how to better deal with it. But if you're really invested, and you really care, you know, it's going to hurt, and you know, you can get over it. And I feel like that's that comes with just time for me. That's that's not something I knew right away. Okay. Let's take a quick break. If you like this podcast once a week, we want to talk to you about getting more of us in your ears every weekday because drum roll, please. 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Your show here. Here's here's the resources you need to make it look beautiful to get the best people that you can you get tens you get to be creative. You get to have your beginning or middle your end. And they don't they don't come at you. They don't have like notes the whole time. And because that can feel like oh my God. Okay. Okay. Okay. We're trying. Okay. What I'm trying to make it the best you can. But they just let you go. And it's it's so freeing to be able to do that. And I think that's why what you're getting in your your homes or your computers is the quality is so much better. Because think these people got to be creative. Without a bunch of executives telling them what you can and cannot do. So I I feel so blessed to be employed by this incredible incredible company, and the way they've changed everything. Like think about it. We used to just get those little DVD's from net flicks, which can still I still have to from like twenty years, and I'm so sorry. 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And and she's very complicated. So to me that was really fun. I'd come off doing to period piece drama films. And so to do something in this world, and the com-, you know, sort of comedy dark comedy and play somebody who is lighten area in some ways as Judy was really fun. So for me, you know, sometimes I think of am I at all like the person. But what is sometimes I am sometimes I'm not, but what does that person's truth and for my character? Her truth is just trying to make this person happy. And so that is really fun to play with a, you know, a wonderful actress and being there on the day changes everything to, you know, the person you're working across from that that influences everything that I do. So thank you. Thank you for the question. All right. Are we ready for lightning? Yeah. Let's let's do it. Okay. Oh lightning. So we're going to ask one question. You both have to answer excuse me as fast as we can exact. Thank you. God you okay, ready? We'll start Linda will always start. I I'm Minnesota. I yeah. It goes for over thinker. So this spouses like, okay, ready? Don dining, Linda, what did you think you were going to be when you grew up the Angela Bauer from who's the boss? She did jingles for remember Juda slightly the heard. Yeah, that's what I wanted to be three. Okay. Christina have to deal with you. Same question. What did you want to be? What do you think you're going to be growing up at actress dancer singer there? We got a job did it because I have no other redeeming qualities or skills. Great Linda, I shop for shop. I clean houses with my friend in high school. I was a baby in a Playtex nursery commercial. I was four months old. Oh, Linda worse. Job worst cleaning houses, my friend high school. We're stopped. Oh that would be good safe. Get me because I'd never, and I always did I always did this. So if I said, we're straying I would be I would be no I understanding off the course of a hand in it's mouth. And if he can't fight on the horse's mouth, Linda. Whereas professional mistake you ever made. Oh god. There's a lot of outfits that I've I've should've thought out better Christina. Oh, gosh. Same like, we didn't have like stylists back when I we had to go to the Golden Globes. We didn't have someone dressing you or really even doing your hair and makeup. So that's pretty I that's Dr gone there through the Golden Globes in a in a quite a questionable on samples. I'm gonna go. That first phone call when you get good news. My family at home. Steve my life my daughter. I'm the worst. I'm on the worst. Okay. I like won an EMMY. And the next day. My dad says you didn't even why didn't you tell me I was nominated for an EMMY. To not anyway, I don't tell anybody anything. I'm really I it's like the way that weird. No. It's just a weird like don't be brag. He I know what I made like Bradley designate, I'm working on therapy. Get to the point where I will. I will share my good fortune. We'll k it's going to be good. Okay. This you get a pass. Maybe the next question. Go first phone call when you get bad news. Oh, Saint people my mom. Okay. Linda when was the last time you negotiated for yourself last night? On what? Negotiating things like Jennings. I don't know lightning round. I don't I don't. How's it feel? It feels good payback decade. I'm going to move on Linda worst audition you ever went on God. There's this string of them. The Scooby doo audition. I actually ended up getting, but I thought it was the worst nightmare because I'd showed up in a costume which turns out that real actors like don't show up to things and cost. And I was full over Galea that I had bought it Ross because they didn't have there's money that day and I walked in. And there was a there was a waiting room full of like famous people at the time. And I went home and sop for a long time. Christina actually for this movie view from the top which actually ended up getting. And I remember like doing the scene and the director just looked at me. Like that was the worst thing ever. And I said that wasn't it was it. He goes. Nope. And he was like really about to dismiss me. And I said let me do it again. And he's like, you know, like the didn't want me to do it. I said just let me just let me just do it again. And I just took a second and took a deep breath. And I was like, okay. And then I did it. And then that was it. And I got that job. That's a good story. This story. Did you make see I didn't I told him? I did I did it wasn't even me in view from the top. It was Carla Jehan. She is forty seven. How do people know you're stressed on my face gives away everything? Yeah. Same. What drives you family my kid shameless? Plug. What's dead to be? Yeah. It's your new favorite show. It's been tell everybody, and then do it again the next so good. It's so so so so so good, then your favorite good. Dr. Carlini? Okay. Christina Linda, thank you very much. 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James Gandolfini  The Christmas Dad  Cut To Black

Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown

1:01:14 hr | 8 months ago

James Gandolfini The Christmas Dad Cut To Black

"Seat my salami. It looks like it's nine o'clock in the morning. Not really breakfast food but looking good in the fridge i had a dog so yeah it is good. That the last of it yup. Oh want some digital. That's all right. That's fine something tells me that it's not fine. Merry christmas everyone Welcome to cut to black soprano. Sit down my name. Is jim scam polling. I've seen many james gandolfini movies. My name's jacob burroughs and i've seen to james gandolfini movies. Ho ho ho great choice of clip jerem and merry christmas to you are happy christmas. They in harry potter now. Yeah wasn't easy to find a clip to open the show for this one and man jacob. I have to imagine you've only seen to jacob. You've seen only seen to james gandolfini movies. Where are you thinking right now. As far as james gandolfini the film actor. I mean as always he. He's a bright spot in this but he really like well. I guess i should say i in case you haven't watched it. Don't worry be worried about spoilers. Oh yes another film. Where if you haven't seen it at just don't worry about it. You're going to know how it ends five minutes into the film. It's a much worse film than the last one. We watched which was the last castle as far as his acting. I mean this is like a sitcom in the form of a film sort of. That's kind of what's going on. There is no room to do any acting beyond very like it's supposed to be comedic big scale acting which you know in a way. It's funny to see him in this. Because it's such a different mood they're going for but it's also funny to see it and just go. He's he's literally tony's pro and so much of this total nudie like meat like when he first shows up he's just being tony soprano Which is i mean it. It's clear that's why they cast him to like they were going for that. And i mean that's why there's a salami scene and there's a there's a big i mean it gets. It falls away by for the first half of the movie like his salamis brought up a few times. That's his main arc. Until he gets a car that he had when he was young. So i mean. I just trying to see where we should Broach this i i guess. Let's just yeah. Let's get into overall the film overall. Which i think it's kinda clear it's not a good film Yeah i think we have to say yeah. You probably haven't seen this room if you're like me you're going to look it up and go like ban affleck james gandolfini like catherine o'hara you kind of know about and then like there's this film that you just have never heard of but to summarize it. It's about ben affleck. He's an executive. He leaves an empty shallow life with. I'm reading this by the way. I didn't write this with only wells on his side facing another lonely christmas head. He revisits his old childhood home in the hope of relieving some old holiday memories but he finds that the house in which he was raised is no longer the home in which he grew up. Now that is a better summary than the actual world of the film. Which is not. It's not quite correct. But you kind of get the idea. Basically ben affleck's millionaire who rents spot with a family for christmas who they happen to live in his old host home because he has issues and he's a crazy person. But that's like i mean i since it's already a parent that i mean it's not not a good movie but i think that's there were a lot of things in place in my opinion four good movie because i think that asks is really good. I honestly i didn't even know christina. Applegate was in the movie until she just pops up like later in the movie. I like all these people. And it's a good cast. And i actually think the idea is decent as well because you know i like that. It's a little. I always liked the little off. Kilter take on a christmas movie which you know fairly popular these days. Anyways i mean i love crap is i love bad. Santa bad santa. I watched every year. I love that movie. And then i was just like just before we started recording because like the wiki didn't have a ton on and obviously it's like no one spend time up facto factoid. It's not like the godfather where people wanna like research and they want to interview everyone and ask them about it But i did. I switched over to imdb and there are some notes on it and the production was shot without a completed script as a result of the really sense. This you do sense to cut him. But that's kinda i. I totally agree with what you're saying that even reading like the plot on wikipedia. Like this kind of sounds okay. you know. It's a bad concept for film but There's a lot of things that falls short. sorry go on with. That's fine as a result. There are many delays in arguments over what to shoot james gandolfini admitted in a behind the scenes interview. That most of the film was improvised. Because that and and i feel that as well because i kind of feel like even in a lot of the scenes i'm like oh this is kind of almost there like a lot of a lot of the things like just the movie general. It feels like there are things that are almost there for fun like darker. Take that has you know. Even if you know where the endings going like. A lot of christmas movies are gonna know the endings going but you could still have some fun with it and yeah if there is a bit more with you know obviously we'd love more gandolfini if he had a little bit more to play with because i was expecting maybe more to for him to play with by the end which he's his character is almost like forgotten. Like yes yeah. But anyways then then also i mean. This movie was pushed back because they didn't want to go up against afflicts other movie paycheck which is a movie. I don't remember at all. But i guess it's was one of john woo's like last movies ever make in the in the. Us was that great. What seemed like a breezy idea. For an engineer to net him millions of dollars leaves him on the run for his life piecing together. Why he's being chased. That's paycheck for you. So they bumped it to two thousand four james. I did look this up while watching it. James gandolfini is only ten years older than christina applegate. He's only eleven years older than ben affleck which at least with the aflac it makes sense because he's paying him anyways. Jon favreau passed in this movie to make elf. Which i guess you made the choice there and oh is and i kinda wanna dig into this. I wish i did ahead of time. But john white. Who is ben affleck's standing. I guess he has a book called dreams that die misadventures in hollywood and there's a devastating depiction of what the filming of movie looks like. Oh my god. Forget about the soprano sessions. Just get out and do another episode on this podcast. Do a book club on that. I really wanna into the vine the scene stuff because i you kind of get that sense. That must have been a bit of a nightmare Because the scenes don't quite work it's like you kinda get what they're going for but that clip. You just played. That's kind of funny. Because it's like the sopranos he likes his salami or whatever got also like also what salamis not breakfast food. I disagree vehemently but When they have like the big closeup like and then james gandolfini walks off and like notes. No big deal. And he's like is really mad but so anti-climactic it's not appropriate seen like it's almost there like there's clearly an idea but it's not executed well and that's kind of my summer of though. Yeah i wanna call out At the scene right before that where he goes to slide down the banister in just falls on the bad made me laugh hard. I i'm a sucker for a good for a good pratfall not to say that there always will but i think that was a good one and i enjoyed it. Maybe i was glancing away. But i didn't even get that he was gonna slide down in a in a fun christmas. I just saw him fall through the banister. And i was like of course he fell through the banister. I guess the home is in disrepair. I don't know what they're trying to communicate. Actually let me i. I'm sorry. I don i don't mean to cut you off but i think i did find a little bit of this guy's book name of the movie. Yeah with surviving. Christmas because yeah use of jeans jeans. Death brought back warm memories of when i worked in a movie back in two thousand three Surviving christmas start ben. Affleck at the time was in the eye of the celebrity storm. As a result of high profile relationship with jennifer lopez. Gandolfini was the main co star in the movie and i was there is athletes standing whom he was he. The one who've not stuntman. So he's not the one who fell through the banister but he was standing in for him. When ben affleck couldn't be fucked to get to the set. Yeah i mean i guess. And maybe gandolfini was bouncing lines off him. Because afflict couldn't couldn't couldn't be fucked to stay on there he had been on countless movies and tv sets Seen most of the major stars close up the days of being excited by hollywood of experiencing butterflies in my stomach. Is i drive over to the warner brothers or paramount or disney studios. Work a movie or tv. Show where behind me One of the few stars still capable of inducing. That buzz of excitement i had lost was james gandolfini. I mean this is good because obviously we watched this movie because of james feeney along with probably the entire western world. By this point. I was a huge fan of the sopranos and especially the character tony soprano who. He turned into a cultural icon Surviving christmas is one of those bad movies evidence in the fact that it was only in theaters a few weeks before being relegated to dvd. That's another thing. I did find out 'cause they do this a lot with holiday movies. We the states. They released it at the end of october. I guess because they probably knew it wasn't going to do well either way you're setting it up to fail Yeah i get. It's close to holidays but they released at the end of the hawks over. They took it out of theaters before thanksgiving so like mid november. They released it on. Dvd december twenty second of that year. So like eight weeks later it was on. Dvd is on dvd. So yeah that's so was absolute privilege of the watch gandolfini work every day. His instincts and timing as an actor were impeccable as was his command of infection and the ability to know where the drama was in any given scene more importantly when it comes to the character of the man was the fact that he took the time to get to know the name of everyone on the crew. The so called little guys that most hollywood actors blithely ignore or hardly take any notice as they go about their business over the ten weeks of a typical movie shoots he would smoke these huge cigars outside the sound stage or when we were shooting an exterior scene on location somewhere. I also recall. How in between scenes or setups would sit outside his trailer playing fiddling around with these big electric model cars and trucks for hours always with a big smile on his face. That's hilarious bobby. Hanging out yeah. He's bobby's conductor hat on just before. A large crowd seen early one morning in a small town called orange south of la which has been specially turned into the chicago. Suburb of during christmas. Time with the story was set complete with street decorations. Fake snow hundreds of extras us pacing up and down puffing on one of his cigars obliviously activity and the people around him as he focused on the scene. Suddenly he let loose with a giant rohr's after clearing that he was ready to shoot in the process sending a shiver of energy Through the set the succeeded in waking. Everybody up everyone's just kinda hanging out like reading fuck it around or whatever and then gandolfini just starts like like a lion and i can. I can see. There's also the time as the movie entered. Its final couple. A couple of weeks of shooting he arranged to have every crew member fitted out with a commemorative bomber jacket which he paid for himself. My most vivid memory of the man was the morning. He approached me just before heading into set to start shooting his first scene of the day. I looking around to make sure no one could hear. He came up close since it could speak to you for a minute as i follow him over. I you're better than gun. Should of this book yet. You know what kid you got it as i follow it over to the side. I don't mind admitting to feeling a little nervous. Even though i'm six two and fairly big myself yeah. Humble brag gandolfini workman size and had hands the size of snow shovels. What's this about. I remember thinking to myself. What have i done. You found a quiet spot on the sound stage stops turned around and with a furrowed brow. Pure tony soprano said in his broad new jersey accent Did i see you in ralph's. On beverly and fairfax last night. Around eight o'clock ralph's a supermarket chain in la us asking. If you'd see me in the supermarket. I looked at him. Shook my head and told him no wasn't me okay. Said i wasn't sure wanting to think of as being ignorant. Because i didn't say hi in with that. He had to back over to set to start. Seeing james gandolfini was hollywood star and i was a mere standing a complete. Nobody in the scheme of things it. He was just prior to shooting a scene in the movie concern that he may have slighted me by failing to say hi in the supermarket. He didn't know me and he didn't have to do that. He was a genuinely decent human being class. Act on and offscreen. Which in hollywood is a rare thing indeed. Yeah that's kind of fun and a fun story. That's not actually from his book. He does plug his book. And this article this was. I guess shortly after he passed. It's like a quick blog iraq. While that that will do. I skip the episode where we read. This book gave away the goods for free. That's what we wanted Yeah no it was worth watching the film just for that. Because that's kind of the stuff where tar nuts beating the static about james gaddafi and learn more about him what he could have done who he was great bomber. Jackets story Yeah it's it's cool too bad about the film though. Yeah any kind of actor we're talking about like there's a few. There's a couple of moments. And i think you could see the potential and i mean just the idea like because obviously most christmas movies they're gonna play with the You know a commercial. Christmas is like that's the thing and and i and this is literally someone buying a family because they're lonely I it is. Because i think even reading like that because we were talking before we started recording like there's what four credited writers on this four credited. Writers is like as far as to writing pairs. Where harry font and deborah kaplan. They've written together before they've written can't hardly wait and ran Josie and the pussycats And this piece of shit And they also. It's never really super like doesn't feel with confidence when screenplay by and there's like four or five people yes a couple of other writers on it as well who've worked on a couple good things that seventies show Murphy brown for some reason. But there's a whole host of people in the kitchen. I feel like the strong vision. It was based on an idea or story from from the first two people i mentioned ridden can't hardly wait and it's not a bad idea in itself but the idea of them filming this without a script like the worst thing they could have done to make this not work because to make this not work because there's just no behind it's in my like there's not enough of a basis for the scenes to stand on scenes might work on their own in isolation but the story doesn't make sense really We should all say. It's directed by mike mitchell. Who directed sky high and deuce bigelow male gigolo and alvin and the chipmunks legal movie to while not sorry other than the chipmunks colon shipwrecked trolls the first one which was a big hit aaron lee yep and he interestingly yeah he so he directed like one of the shrek that nobody cares about. Unless you really care about trekkie though like the third one or whatever But he was like a story artists on antz shrek to shrek the third. So i would put this in the pile of good people who are involved you know. I love sky. High and like some of these animated films are not bad as so again a good person but it just didn't come together and i did. We did we say james gandolfini. The dad's like i don't even know if we got into that but james gandolfini the died. Guys yeah james gandolfini. He's the dad. Because yeah there's also just little things about the movie too because again we're going like the story is ben affleck. He's got it all but does he have at all. I mean 'cause you know he's called. He's calling his friends on christmas. And you know there's some funniest sides they're like. Hey what are you doing all doing the family thing. Good called mind. If i might have i hang out like he's just you know desperate to hang out with someone on christmas and then he just shows up he said what he hunts down his girlfriend's therapist that the aerospace no fucking sense. This is what i'm talking about. Where i the idea of the script. The idea behind the whole film is not communicated well at all in the first few scenes. Because there's so much stuff like This is a film about psychopaths. Which i guess they wanted to communicate that but basically they set up affleck as like. He's you know he's got it all now. If this film came out a few years later he would have been a dot com millionaire mark zuckerberg. It would have made total sense because he lives in this like mansion like apartment and all but actually they just have a quick. she seemed show. he's in advertising. I guess yeah. But he's like a hot shot and he doesn't like where people clothes he's like a slob or whatever but he's just he he he's is an advertising which so he's like. It's like a madman scene in this film from the early two thousands and he talks about like. Oh we're going to sell this eggnog. That's like got alcohol in it. I didn't even know there was ignorant in that. We're going to sell this eggnog. And we're going to sell it with the idea of. Everyone hates hanging out with their family at christmas. Right so you need to get drunk right. That's how everything's sold christmas by the way but So it's not really revolutionary. But that's his idea that's the show is that he does that shows. He hates christmas right. Yeah and then. The next scene is all about him trying to call well though. Sorry there's his girlfriend. He gets tickets to go to fiji on christmas with his girlfriend again. Emphasizing for me. He doesn't care about christmas. He wants to get away for christmas but no what the film is actually trying to say is. This guy hates being lonely. That's not communicated in any of these scenes. The next thing as you said is quite good when he's calling people and everyone's saying no like that's when we get into that but it's just so Clumsy put together and then getting to the scene you mentioned. He hunts down his girlfriend's therapist. Now the fact that this scene in the movie at all is bananas never mind the that they're an airport security and he's like just like because this is after nine eleven how just at the security gates but having a shouting match with his governs therapist who he's bribed to get in contact with. This is psychopathic behavior. So if they want to communicate that. That's fine i guess that's part of what they want to say. But then it's supposed to be this comedic thing where he gets some advice from this therapist and the whole rest of the film is based on that. Why couldn't you just have a therapist. Idaho exactly because yeah it some thing of how i don't know but also even going back to his girlfriend like you know he has this girlfriend at the beginning and yeah. He offers her like first class tickets to. Yeah what was it fiji. Something like that but she at the beginning she's like no you know family and christmas but then later she needs to be the vapid like Materialistic like she has to change her character. By the end so christina applegate can be a character because then she's like well. I mean i know they try to make this a soft excuse of like well like she roused her family stinks too. But it's still like even before that when she's all excited about the bracelet. It's like this girl that's excited about. The bracelet. wants to see him would be super excited about first class. Tickets to fiji even on christmas like it just that even that doesn't quite wash you know what i mean like. The they didn't i it does wreak again of like they. Have you know we got to make the movie. We don't have a script. Let's make it because it just doesn't make sense But and all throughout their kind of acting like everyone unlike they're acting like oh it's clear that he just hates his family and doesn't want to see his family. I have no idea why people don't assume that his family's not around anymore. Yes there's like. That would obviously be the thing. Because the reason she's mad at the start is never introduced to your family and it's just clear the way talking that there's like no family around for him to producer to that's why so fucking lonely and everyone says you must really hate your family if you want to hang out with us supposed to be like a reveal for us to the viewers. I guess but it's obvious that that's the case of the start. It's so that doesn't quite yet so clear. There's a tragedy like we're going to be opened up to a tragic story but even going to like the phoenix family. Because we have gandolfini and catherine o'hara and then they have their teenage son but like an initial early. I'm like wait. So why does this family hate christmas. Because i get like the situations weird it who would wanna be like at the beck and call of a guy because he's going to give you a lot of money but some of the things are just basic. Ask things like. Oh we're gonna get a christmas tree. You serious are going to wear a santa hat. Like i i mean i get. It's more because someone's telling you to do it but even initially like i mean i the later i guess the more the reveal is that just there unhappy family and that's like you know they're splitting up or whatever but it's not a parent enough. Initially why like just basic ask putting up christmas decorations and stuff like serious. Christmas lights like i. It just doesn't doesn't really come across. what why. what the issue is yeah. They're basically married with children. Which is why crecy obligates. They're also By john it's basically one one other movie that i thought of watching all of these scenes was Meet the parents Yes i re watched quite recently which is obviously not the same plot but it's similar in the way that they it's like about family dynamics and comedy and super awkward weird situations and i thought of that because the parents goes into all of these like absurd situations but it's all grounded in realism. It's grounded it like they have these super awkward moments and conflicts. But it's grounded in like we believe that these characters are who they say they are and in this film. You don't really know who you don't understand any of the characters or you do but on a very surface level of like i'm saying the lines now because these lines were in the script so now it's time to talk about how i don't think this is good and i'm a commercial person. I oh yeah it's it's just. This film doesn't have a base to stand on for any of the scenes where if they establish things better it might have made more sense absolutely I mean i do like i guess. This is more of a product of You know the times early. Two thousands not to say that i mean. Obviously there's dark humor and stuff now. But i don't know like when the kid has a joke about like people. Are the guys sending a bus tickets over the internet a pedophile joke and then the girlfriend's family like i love colorful your tree as reminds me of the colors of the simple people in mexico. Brighton vulgar like. Yes was pretty good. Yeah i mean. Because i because i enjoy you know i mean but i do kind of enjoy like i guess music comedy like not to say that to me but like again i guess bad santa like a great example. Because it's kind of mean but then there's heart to it and like flips itself on that and plays off of it and i guess i more appreciate that. This movie's trying to go for that. It's just that obviously it doesn't work and and they had no script so there's no like guiding four sir basis. I wonder like why would they just rush it. I mean i guess these are questions that come up with hollywood productions all the time i mean i'm sure at the time affleck was a big name so we need affleck obviously gandolfini and gandolfini. If he's working on the sopranos he has a window when he can be available and then affleck. I'm sure this is actually like a string of bombs for aflac. There's a whole paragraph. About how like. He has daredevil. Which was i mean. Even though critically a lot of people didn't like it but it did well And then basically after that was like this movie and like every other movie until gone baby gone four years later We're all flops. Between g lee paycheck jersey girl. I think there might even been like another one. Hollywood land a hollywood land was a comeback film So yeah basically a bunch of bombs until he directed his own film. That's why like. I mean. I guess it's maybe it's easy to sit in our seat with hindsight and be like. Why would you just bake a movie without a script. But then there'd the people that thinking that they're just banking on stars are like well. We only have this money for this amount of time. We only have this and we have to get it done. But i'm probably giving them too much of a benefit of the doubt now. I totally see recovering from an as just astounding those four four people credited as writers. And you didn't have like a script at the end of it or probably. They must've add like different versions of scripts. That kind of cobbled together so probably in one version are millionaire. Was more focused on at. You know hating christmas in hating people and then in another version. He's more like. I hate being alone and those kind of got mashed up and then in another version. There's probably something about his girlfriend's therapist earlier on so maybe it made sense in that version for him to track down and his Girlfriends therapist in the airport. And all that shit. You didn't in this version that we watched but yeah it's amazing how ben affleck just got through all of that. It's being a handsome white man in hollywood. It sure has its perks. I mean two of the other writers were writers on the simpsons. Although i guess they only wrote like a couple of episodes but still i mean and that seventies show. Yeah oh yeah seven. Show you and the grub sites of course the grubs fuck so. I wanted to go back so after this airport scene writes the s doctor tells him to visit write a list of his grievances. Burn them and i guess that his childhood home or whatever and burn the list. And then say i forgive you. And then so he goes to do that and then James gandolfini comes out of his house with a snow shovel and hits him in the back of the head. This scene was great. Because i totally expected him to start shopping. This guy up like because he's so tony he's almost god like the robe on. I think he's in his underpants or whatever. Just wax him over the head with a shovel. You totally expect him to cut this guy up soul tim. And just distribute the body parts around town but instead he he wakes up inside and Gets a little tour and then makes the offer of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to spend christmas with the family and they get a contract and everything. We'll even that citing incident will even that like the the order of events like after he wakes up in the house. Like i this at this point. I'm kind of nitpicking. But it's like because he's like Can get a tour. And but then catherine o'hara like yeah of course and 'cause she gives them the tour but then after she's like get this guy the fuck outta here exactly again feeney's like holding on for the money or whatever but it's just like i don't know it just doesn't make sense like why is she. Why is she like yeah. Of course i mean. I got the impression when she said that she's like kinda like fucking with her husband. But yeah just being whatever but then it's like a turn on a dime it's like oh get the fuck out here. I don't know but again. Like i was even thinking during this movie i was. It is amazing like on one hand going back to like criticizing the producers or the studio for going ahead with a film. That doesn't have a script. It is amazing. If there are people in something that you like that you will withstand a like quite a bit. Because i was thinking that during this movie i was like. I don't like this. But i do like james gandolfini. I like catherine o'hara i like christina applegate. I like ben affleck and a lot of people. Don't like ben affleck. But i do like i like me some affleck. I'm kevin smith fan from way back even though i don't like them anymore but that's a whole nother story but affleck and those movies was always good. Yeah and it's also like the thing he's requesting is so small for two hundred fifty thousand dollars to spend christmas at the family. The whole thing is that it's a weird thing so basically obviously in the story after this it has to kinda get worse and worse for the family to put the pressure on and africa or live. We agreed to this and then try to decide to go ahead with this or not. So then he forces them to go out and buy a tree like you said. They're super grumpy about it. Even though it's basic ask christmas shit by gall where the santa captured public again. it's it's more someone telling you to do something. But then guess what if someone gave me two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I mind the santa high winds fanning. And i guess it's also too 'cause like again going back to not being there not being a script because they it's almost like they realized in the scene that okay. This isn't that bad. So then they have to make ben affleck's character like a little bit more insufferable like for no reason which is kind of the point but Like they. I don't know he has to be like a douche about it but then yet then game no phoenix character has to be annoying about it. I think one of the main reviews that's quoted on the wiki. Kind explains it. Even though i don't i don't hate. I actually enjoy movies with unlikeable characters. But i guess they describe it better surviving. Christmas is unpleasant. Character attacking each other for ninety minutes before delivering a typical hollow. Anti consumerist. message. It was ranked number ninety one a out of the worst reviewed films of the two thousand. I guess if the whole decade. But yeah like they. I it'd be fine to make him unlikeable and i mean obviously looking at it from a capitalistic. Like a point of view of like. Oh man rich guys just hire a family or even like the the parasite version of this movie. I mean maybe this is like parasite before parasite in a lot of ways but if there was just a little bit more finance with that where you can make him unlikeable but have them coming up with silly things for them to do. I'm i'm saying the same shit over and over again by continuing. I wanna go over the beats of the film because i've i'd honestly forgotten stuff and then i was reading and i was like. Oh yeah that made no sense but one thing before that he does call james gandolfini and catherine o'hara mom and dad which is like again. I wanna see a scene with him and an actual therapist. You know like in the sopranos cow. Because what. I'm trying to understand his character but he immediately jumps in and starts calling the mom and dad and later on. It's obviously revealed that he didn't have much many christmases growing up. He's trying to relive that. But there's obviously something fucked up going on in this man's brain and we're not privy to. What's happening in it. He's just being annoying. We're not with this character at any point of the story but yeah anyway so one thing that happens is christina. Applegate shows up the daughter and our main character. Ben affleck is really annoyed because he never had a sister. You never had died either but You know he's fine with that. I don't think he had a brother either. Yup i don't think so so anyway. He's just you portray the made or whatever this bit is kind of like close to being fun. wear yeah. Drew has written a script for them and them all down and that's kind of a fun idea making them all these things you know. This is actually what i've gone for. I'm sorry we got off on the wrong foot. Hires a local actor to play his own grandfather. That's a funny idea as well. And there's even a couple of funny moments that i come from that i think but in in short it's not really well developed enough and it just ends up feeling like we're sitting in these scenes for quite a long time. You know yeah absolutely because you're right. The script thing comes up and it has potential and then it doesn't go anywhere and then it just kind. it doesn't come up again Do shows up dudas a fun idea and then of course clearly when duda shows up later like i mean you could speak. What's going to happen before it happens. Because i'm like dude is going to be black. Or chinese now again of phoenix. Trying to warn. Ben affleck but he's not gonna hear he's not having because later on steaks are quote raised because the reason that matters later is that his girlfriend from the first scene who clearly he doesn't care about by the way he only cares about not spending christmas alone after that so he'd never really cared about this person he she shows up later and he's like oh shit now we have to pretend for real z's that you guys are my family again i get. That could make sense. But as i said he never cared about this girl from the start. But it's really really important to pretend that we're all a family for their sake and as you said. His grandfather shows up the actor and all of that another thing. is skipping back ben. Affleck takes the two kids of family. Who are roughly his age sledding and they go up like a helicopter because again show. Yeah all this money to blow big open a helicopter and find like a huge hail and they go down. And then he moves to kiss Christina applegate who heaves just talked about how annoyed. Here's and i suppose that's this shorthand. We're supposed to understand that when people pick on each other. Yeah actually like each other. But in this scenario they have absolutely no reason to like each other. At least she has no reason to like him because he's a crazy person who showed up and the is paying her family to hang out with them and make them do stuff they don't wanna do But of course there's a romance. A she showed up. I was like oh man says well any and it's actually the fact that this is written that it's at the start of the wiki surviving. Christmas is the two thousand four american romantic comedy s. I would dispute bats fact honestly just the simple the simple choice of like not having her to kiss not having him go to kiss her in that scene and having him try to do it in the later scene where he liked brings her to the tree that she told the story about and then it gets ruined because he just like over spends and tragedy. Speak thing if it happened. There would have made at least more sense. Because there's more time like they. The goal of that was just supposed to be what he says at the beginning of just having fun because he's like you know. Hey why don't you come up with some fun. What you don't like fun. And then she's like. Of course. I like funded. Fun is so if you just have the moment where they're laughing. They have fun then. They spend time. 'cause they're both have the sniffles or whatever like you can keep the same order of events and just not have the the classic hollywood. All we fell. Are we gonna kiss now because we felt that. That is such a trope that it should happen. We're in any scene where anyone falls over really. That would happen with you and me if we like. Oh yeah it's the rules of taliban have to almost case if you fall over together and so i mean there's the whole subplot is going on in the midst of it or maybe you're about to introduce it the geena fini and catherine o'hara like can't fills a minute they're going to split up and then you know here's one thing here's one another thing that makes no sense. Gandolfini comes in right and is like hey kid you gotta leave because me and the wife are going to split up but the the order of events has explained to me is. They've already decided to split up. Yeah after the holidays. They're going to tell their kids so maybe they decided that before he showed up like there. He says you have to leave. Because we're gonna split up or whatever but it makes no sense because they've already decided that they're already bad. He's not telling them to leave so they don't split up. They've already decided they're gonna split up. So maybe splitting fifty k. Down the middle would be a good sort of separation present for both of them but now our main character drew brees. Ben affleck. He starts to sort of try to. I don't know what's happening here to be honest. He he encourages them to indulge in themselves. I guess he's he. Who wants to keep them together. Right like what he's doing and he's like basically this ends with james gandolfini buying a car and he sends christina to photographer to get some glamour shots. Which i guess. Yeah she she doesn't feel sexy doesn't view young and he helps her with that they have seen where that is almost touching where he says. Nice things to her and she like almost breaks down crying. And i was like that was the scene. That was kind of a scene there. Yeah but then it leads to her going off getting all these sexy photographs taken. There's a disconnect in my brain because later on those photos are on porn site. What happened there. Yeah because. I'm pretty sure that photographer was paid for that. It wasn't like sleazy back. Ali fig this guy is a millionaire. He's not gonna send this mom his the person playing his mom to a porn place but those porn pictures show up online so that the kid who's always watching porn that's his personality can freak out about seeing pictures of his naked mom and they can be like revealed later but it makes no sense or did i miss something jim. I don't understand why they're on the internet. It doesn't really make sense because like yeah. I mean because he had his line is like i know the top like Fashion photographer in chicago. And you think that's enough to just set up joke that he's eccentric and weird and that's why her makeovers weird but it does you're right it totally doesn't wash that then it's on like a porn ad or something like that because you you you only you can either do the joke that he like has his assistant set it up and she ends up in like a shady back alley place or it's the top fashion photographer and he's a you know. European eccentric Like the autobahn from big lebowski or something like that. The nyla like you do want her to the jokes. You can't just like squish. The jokes together Because you want to have the re the the crazy stuff later and then also the goof on top of that of how like the sun is so frozen by it that he can't stop staring at us. Yeah he's there watching that stuff and it seems to be just what image forever of his naked mom. It's just like the doodo. The grandma grandpa actor comes in like who. What's now backing mired. Hey take a dirty lady. Quarter governor Show show her dirty. How does this work. Picks up the mouse and tries to click stuff. Like and he's like. Oh show you how it works. We're mad. I'll show you how to get toward. We'll be brothers in this. And then all that looks like your mother and he's frozen there for ages until the rest of the family shows up and later he throws his computer down the stairs understandably so and i guess thinking about it now. It's because they were like shit. What the sun doing while this is happening. And then someone was like you just like stuck in his room like he's throws in whatever and oh what was the other thing. Oh i do like the joke. This backing up a bit. Where again athena gets the car. And he's like. Hey i actually got proposition by hooker. Like that's just a dumb joke but also the whole gandolfini catherine o'hara thing it the end of it. It just fizzles out which would work if they set up the relationship differently because doesn't it just kind of an with him being like. I don't wanna go like. Where am i going to go. And she's like just don't go then and it's like that's kind of the resolution and in a different movie or if it was set up differently if it was like a weird indie drama or if they handled kind of the balance of like humor and reality a little bit better where like what that tone fit. That would almost work. But it's just kind of like a gallon fizzles out like. They think they're doing something that they're not doing. Yeah no you're totally right. Because that that exchange of words could actually be really good in a really good film tad i think they do a good job of it. like as well because they're basically like emotionally repressed talk about their feelings or whatever they're just resentful towards each other and he of in at this where they're doing christmas carol in local production and kind of mentions that i wouldn't even know where to go when she's like she's like just don't go then and he's like and he's like is that okay she's like yeah that's good but it's like he's vulnerable in that moment there's acting going on there but as you said the relationship was never really established enough that it adds up. Yeah because they almost they play lip service to like you know. He notices that she even though she looks insane. Like from her makeover. But you know he's complimenting her and then she kind of like oh yeah. Do we know someone with this car. Yeah us and you know. There's there's some stuff where like. Oh this is working. I mean you know immediately. There's going to be a weird backfire. I thought maybe there's going to be some more backfire with the car but the car never comes up again and then even with like the idea that yeah in the dudas under study is now hitting on her because he saw her in a like on the porn picture. But that kinda doesn't go anywhere i mean. Gandolfini does make a like. He does show that he cares about her in a way but he kinda just fizzles into nothing like you know. That's the whole movie. Everything is almost the thing again it when he's in the when he's like you. You almost get the answer. Just goes away. Yeah it's i think. All of this victim of dad multiple scripts versions and a lot of the scenes work on their own. But they're not connected to the other scenes properly so christina applegate like ben affleck takes her out and shows her this tree that's been covered in ice like a story. She told about her childhood. And it is a touching moment but then he over does it brings in a whole pageant production with people coming in seeing cows and whatever and she is fucking discussed. It demands that he which doesn't really make sense because again they don't have enough behind barrett. She's supposed to be like well. I thought you were different but you were. Actually you know the thing. I originally thought. And meanwhile they've had like two scenes together. Yes there's nothing here. They're trying but there's nothing here and then as we said original girlfriends one over by this bracelet shows up with her family by the way she's like. Oh thank you for sending me this bracelet. I'm going to show up at your family home. And we're gonna spend christmas eve with you and i'm not gonna ask about it even though we've broken up already. This makes no fucking. Did you imagine being so rude that you would show up. Someone's place on christmas eve without asking or anything. It's insanity and then even going back. Because i mean again it sets up kind of a fun idea. But they're just breezing through everything because now christina applegate gets to play along but also like get revenge in a way. Because she's you know coming in saying. I want to emphasize what she wants. Revenge for this point right. So she's really upset about the over production of the tree so she goes away for awhile and then all of this happens where the other family shows up. She comes back. Ben affleck's in the kitchen and she's like you know what i want to apologize. I overreacted which makes sense. Because she did overreact and then she him which makes no sense unless she's like oh he's a millionaire fuck it but like there's no relationship going out there but then she's annoyed about him bringing his ex there even though there was nothing happening between the two of them so she takes her revenge for her kissing him without asking anything. She takes revenge for the vibes between them by just making fun of him in front of his girlfriend. Or i guess Is what's happening right. Yeah basically because now he's like look. I'm sorry i'm going to be out of your life but just go like drive around for an hour while we kinda you know. Finish our charade in front of this girl. My ex But then she's like oh they're having fun. How will i'll have fun too. So now she gets to come in and say things like. Oh she's not fat and stuff like that. And i guess i'm a basic ass bitch because i was expecting because remember when she she kisses him in steps away. She's like let me get your present. And then she just like throws the present atom because she sees him kissing his ex so. I'm expecting that present to come up later on now. Basic as bitch. Jim but also like this movie. It does all the basic ass shit. So i can't i mean like you're asking me so i'm expecting you want basic stories. Shit is what i'm saying. Yeah okay because yeah. I'm expecting like maybe as he's about to leave in shambles. He finds the present. And it's i mean there's nothing to set up where it could work. But i'm you could squeeze something in there and it means something or whatever or she brings it up later when things are you know coming back whatever it might be but i mean i guess she's got. She got him a gift card for radio shack or something and she had against the wall because he was kissing his ex girlfriend when she came back with. Yeah and during all this She also finds out about ben affleck sad back story that his father left her mother when he was four and his mother Worked really hard and always worked christmas and he she would make you should get him like a big stack of pancakes on christmas eve until he was eighteen and then she passed away well he was at college and he ends this story by going. I've never been a coffee shop since we supposed to be a dramatic lied. But it's fucking but at the light. And i think a fine backstory honestly. Yeah and just the fact that it never came up that like. Yeah whatever thought like. Maybe he doesn't have family and that's part of why he's insane and i mean if the movie like the movie could have could have revealed that a little even a little probably a lot sooner. You didn't have to treat that as a reveal because like you said before it's clear to us the audience that there's a tragedy or something going on. It's not that he just hates his family. I mean clearly. There's a story there so we're just waiting for you. Could you could fill us in. And then have other people find out after and the fact that he's calling you know james gandolfini dad and everything. There's just so much potential there of him accidentally shouting something about you. Never should've left. Or whatever like and he's obviously there's something psychological going on where he's like displacing or trying to relive stuff like that's what this film is about but they never bothered to go into it properly or have any scenes that relate to it. It's just annoying millionaire guy but we kind of like him because uae because he. I don't know why we're supposed to like the ad. But he's just annoying millionaire guy we don't see any of his psyche tells us sad story but he's at the end he liked. Does the thing where he burns the all these grievances and says i forgive you after. I guess he's told the story but he hasn't actually relived anything in a significant way. That's allowed him to do that. We have actually seen them do that. We've just seen him be a crazy person and also the idea of like and again. This is just maybe nitpicking I mean number one. It's like i know it's it's not pitched as the best house but also the idea that a a lady that works at a diner. Twenty-five diner would have that home and never mind. The fact of like then applicant christina. Applegate are not that different in age so like did he grow up in that house while she grew up in that house or did she not grow up in that house. You know what. I mean like you start thinking about some of these things. If they had explained in a way similar to the doodo thing of like. I didn't even grow up in this house like a house. I used to walk by or growing up or something like that and we actually grew up in like a really. Yeah apartments and i would have made more sense and you know. And then he has a reason to focus on like his riches now because he grew up with nothing and so he's like. This is how i express everything with money. But they didn't do that. Yeah because yeah the very least like this was just the house. I always wish. I grew up in type. Deal or something like that Would have added a bit more because again when they were having the moment where they almost kiss them like wait. Did they both grow up in that house. Or what the fuck. No i mean they. They must've just moved in there. But i'm also like all along. The the film is about like money. I guess and not having it yet. This house is so nice to me. It looks like a fucking lil mansion right. They make like jokes about how its shipped like. Give it a paint job inside. They've like tried to make it. Look not amazing. But it's still a huge ass house. Just look at how the stairs like. Turn on the way up and everything. And i'm like fuck me. That's a nice looking house. But he's supposedly grew up in it even though his mother had to take double shifts at christmas to make ends meet. And yeah sorry. We've talked about this film for almost an hour. Only an hour and a half. It does feel a lot longer than that. But i guess we should wrap it up. I'll say in a diner. They have moments at the end of the film that you always have to have at the end of the film. So all of this happens right and missy. That's girlfriend her. Her family storms out and storms out and she. Their relationship is over and finally ben affleck He he's at home and he's back where he started. It's christmas and he's alone. He flew too close to the sun. Or some shit. And james gandolfini shows up and i do like the james gandolfini shows up. And he's like you know it's just what happens in a film like this you have to go back to the starch and then have something reconnect show the change hero's journey etc james shows up and he's like your money and i did like that because it's like out there to go like you know i'll spend christmas because at this point he's broken up and left his wife because of the photos that were on the internet even though it makes no sense that they were on the internet. And her the catherine o'hara ever consent to daddy of that. But it was on the internet. So james gandolfini left in his car and then he shows up there and then they both have tickets to a christmas carol. Which is where do the grandpa actors playing now on christmas eve so they both decide to go and this i don't even mind it kind of makes sense because him showing up and going you owe me money. That's actually him being. Hey it's christmas. And i'm lonely. Yeah and that's kind of the same thing. I was thinking about it. The repressed emotions and that kind of makes sense. I do like how that adds up. And they go to the play and you know they decide not to divorce as we said. And then ben affleck and christina applegate just make out on the steps. I and then they're all having food in the diner and this part also makes no sense that the girlfriends the original girlfriends driving past when they're making out on the steps and then they're like oh incest now to or something and they drive often. I'd like you've already established that. There's incest in this family reasons. You left the house earlier. Remember so it's just very weird and very like american pie to have someone drive up like wash lowering their glasses as they're making out and that's the end of the film and then there in the diner having fucking tank aches and that's fucking that's a wrap It is so funny because what they just been driving around the whole time and they're still driving around because they just need to sneak that joke in faulk we couldn't have it earlier wouldn't make sense that they'd be they'd be kissing and making out at the home. That's when everything's hit the fan. Because i got emphasize that in this time ben affleck goes back. Home has a sad alone crispus some cartoons and has a drink so he has a sad montage and they're still just driving around. They're still having left. Where and they just a few minutes ago. And there's still cruising around arguing because the dads yelling at the mom for being hoity toity or whatever yeah. There's an unnecessary. Reveal that The girlfriend from the start. Her mom actually alike was with another guy. Add is even her dad. But that's just throw it out as a joke. Never touched on again. Yeah just kinda like well. She's a bad person. She deserves to find this out that that's not even her father her mother's a bitch So yeah and then we end Full circle he never stepped foot in a diner again but now he's back in a diner and we got ourselves a new christmas tradition and he did get a family. Because i mean honestly it would be totally banged. Yes seen applegate. It would actually be more emotional or have more. It hit more to me if he didn't have this romantic connection. If it just didn't fuck. Wade's if it just came about like you know even like the fact that they just welcome him into the family and it's the fact that you know family isn't always blood and you know you can. You can choose your family. In some circumstances. Even i like candle fini being like call me dad or something like that but now i mean i guess either way works. I'm just saying it would almost hit harder. If it's just the fact that he's welcome into the family at the end but you know they're gonna they're gonna get married. They're gonna live happily ever after they eat pancakes every christmas. Yeah i mean who wouldn't want james gandolfini to say. Hey call me. Daddy seem guy every holiday. I think the perfect summary of this film is on the list of accolades on wikipedia. Which says that. It was nominated for three golden raspberry awards at the two thousand five ceremony. Now these are awards that are given to the worst film sin win win the awards though exactly. Yeah it's not bad enough to be good because it's bad. It's not good enough to be good because it's good. It lost to woman for worst picture. Ben affleck lost worst actor to george bush and fahrenheit. Nine eleven wade. Yeah yeah. That's i mean the thing is i kinda hate the golden raspberry awards though to go head loss for worst screenplay to cap woman. I'm just saying it's not like bad enough to be a fun colty film. It's just a confusing mass of. We didn't connect the dots properly on something. That could have been good agree. That's probably why day well also the release and everything but it did know costs forty five million to make. Hopefully james gandolfini got a fair slice of that and the box office was fifteen million. So there you go. That's surviving christmas. We survived watching it and discussing it. Thank you. That's how did that movie cost that. But i i guess it's got to be just like affleck's fee maybe gandolfini but yeah we did it. We tis the season. I hope you didn't have to watch it. But i mean maybe if you did watch you got some catharsis from our discussion on it or maybe maybe loved. Maybe this is movie. You watch every christmas. And that's the case. You could let us know at shows. Which you know show edgy. Mail dot com and if you have a series regardless of if you've watched the film or not of how her pictures ended up on the porn website please let me know is what there was like an assistant in the photo shoot. Maybe he runs a shady porn. Even though it's like high profile acting because i read on when i read the plot on the wiki said that her images were manipulated into the porn sites. That i'm like They like took out her face and put on porn. Which again could have happened. Even if she wasn't in these glamour shots. What were these glamour. Shots four. Where did they end up. If you have answers shows which you know show jima dot com. Please put me out of my misery and be on the lookout if he made it this far by the way. that Godfather coda is on the horizon so we will be discussing the godfather three or godfather code. The death of michael corley on We also are in the possession of the sopranos road to respect the playstation two game so Very excited discussed that. and i. i think. I might even be streaming. It you know in the coming weeks on twitch dot tv slash. Jim them So yeah great stuff. Happening on the feed. Senator emails please review subscribed tele friend beyond that. I think there's just one more thing jim ooh. What's that cut to black.

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The Best Of The REShow (08-14-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

28:08 min | 1 year ago

The Best Of The REShow (08-14-20)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. We wake up every day we talk show better than a day with workers were willing professionals. Rich Eisen show named. Welcome back to the rich Eisen show is one of the greatest of all time in any sports, his seven, hundred, fifty, five home runs in the minds of many people are the most of all time in Major League Baseball and the man for whom the Hank Aaron Award is obviously named. He is none other than Hank Aaron here on the rich Eisen Show, how are you doing hank I'm doing fine. Mattel you I. AM doing great. What are your memories of Wrigley Field Let's start with that as we've got our goodness I've had very good members of rid fear. If, if well, the most the most memorable one of course, that's how. I saw my first major, League game it. And I had played a year at Ole Clare in class feeble and came through on the train and the dodgers were playing and I went to the ball game to watch Jackie Robinson and the dodgers play and. And got about a train but that that was my most memorable one at for that. But playing in the Ballpark was even astonished. Had Wonderful Times and Wrigley Field. Let's. Let's start with what you what you just mentioned right there. What did it mean to you? At that age that you were talking about to. Jackie Robinson play baseball hank. Well, it meant an awful lot in Oakland was Kalinic backup Me Please in Oakland Wisconsin. We could get all of the dodgers and Milwaukee Games I got him in the Ymca West it. I stayed at the Ymca for a day and had a nice room and I see that every single day listening to the dodgers. the MILWAUKEE? Braves Milwaukee Milwaukee. Breeze. 'cause they're just moved there. Watch them every single day I. Walk listened to them but It was It was a great moment for me. Just to watch Jackie suit up and. Play. and. Dominate Imagine. To Watch him play and you know because. After. All he was going through some. Trying Tab and things that That people didn't care for you know but I went to give him my report and Lillard I know the train. Didn't care about that is ran off and left me train left hand Karen right there. Joining me here on the rich Eisen show. I once overheard Ted. Williams have a conversation about hitting with Mark Maguire Hank and he asked mark if when he hit the ball, did he smell wood-burning? Does. He said that he would sometimes smell the would burn after his bat meant. The horse high. I believe it I if he said it, I can't believe you did was He was he was a mess. You know he was a math to another player was very good with Stan musial. Sped was no plus you know I had to room with him room with him. In Vietnam, we were lucky enough to go on a high neighbor to. From the president went over there and we stayed for about two weeks. And I got chance to room with them and talk with him and I learned to appreciate him an awful lot. You know you don't know what you see a guy every day and play against them, and then all of a sudden you see him every day and close up and have conversation with him. Then you really learn how to appreciate them. Spending a few minutes with Cooperstown and baseball hall of Famer Hank Aaron here on the rich Eisen show and which guy when you got into the batter's box hank you're. Fearful is the wrong word. But when you're talking about of a pitched ball coming at you maybe on your Chin with a little bit of music on it. Who was that guy that you were concerned about getting? The. All back in my d you know they hits you and that was the end of it. You know you think your base at first. Base. Take you go to place base and and and forget about it. You know no fights no nothing least. I wasn't big enough be fighting some of those guys you know. But the guy that you were talking about is for that concerned with Stan Williams. He used to be with the dodgers big guy by six six and through their hard. And made himself wild for a reason. 'cause he didn't want you to dig in to play, but he was the one. You know I mean he he would. He was there I mean you know really and You know I I always felt like somewhere before the Piston on in ballgame that he was going through a one close to me behind me or something you know Hank Aaron here on the rich Eisen show not hang I'm Michigan. Wolverine Alum. Coach harbaugh invited me to be the honorary Captain Week Two against Central Florida back in September and you just a couple of weeks ago. Did it for Michigan against the fighting a line I? How did you? How did you find that experience with coach Arbab I've been involved in a lot of things but when the coach offered me that. When he came here to to work out a couple of ball creating off me to go I I said, I, gotTa go I have a granddaughter there of course, and she's a student at Michigan Okay and So when she heard about it The first thing she said Papa, you've got to go well when she said that. All she needed to. But anyhow I was I was thrilled I really was three I. Could Walk I watched him play against his brother and all in the super. Bowl. And then I got chance to meet his mother and and his father. And I got a chance to speak to the football team. Oh, would you Scott chance to speak to the baseball team? So I had a good day met some wonderful athletes and the coach was the schools excellent I enjoyed it, and that's the first time I've ever done anything like that and I. Just. I feel ecstatic I really proud of myself. I felt like. All the baseball things that have. been at my fingertips, but just doing this in a football field and flipping a corn. was. The greatest thrill of my life did you were you auroras speech give a little. You know go out there and get them. I mean what sort of speech? I'm not I'm not a raw guy but what I did tell him. I told him that In essence most of them I. told him I said boy, that's a you playing at the greatest school in the world you're going to get the grease education the. I could but you gotta remember one thing that there is no shortcut in life. That's what I try to tell them. I try to make sure they understand that regardless of what education, what they do that they gotta take one step at a time. And that's what I try to tell mostly kid young kids because most of. Like my kids you know my grandkids, you know they. The and warned to be. Tomorrow, it won't be too star and that don't happen that we you know. When I start playing baseball, I started in Class C ball. Div. All and that that's And that's what you do in life life is that we saw and they spirit that I mean, they said there and then really paying attention and I'm sure that if I if I got through to one or two of them, it was the greatest thrill of my life. Well, Hank I really appreciate you calling into the show and it's a privilege that I get a chance to actually tell you after. My whole life. Being able to say to you. Thank you for being you and how you went about Your Business and doing what you did in your baseball career. And all the way to the present day. The pleasure is a data pleasure beat on your show. Thanks. I appreciate it. That's Hank Aaron Hall of fame individual. And Baseball. Player. Do you own or rent your home sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. You know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy? It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home go to Geico Dot Com, get a quote and see how much you could save. It's GYCO. Easy visit GEICO DOT com today that's GEIKO DOT COM G. I. O. DOT COM. Welcome back to the rich Eisen show we are thrilled to have here in person in studio at one C applegate on twitter, the Emmy, award winning actress who we fell in love with the restart date on married with children and also and both anchorman films. Emmy Award winner from a couple of years on friends good to see you Christina applegate. You you've been part of some. Really. Funny. Ensemble cast in your career I've been think. How did you get involved? How did you get involved with Jesse Anchorman to begin with just? I addition and then I had to screen test for it and will, and I had such a good time and you know it was the first time I had was asked to Improv in an audition and I was terrified was just threw it out. You just just say whatever you WanNa say you guys house like Oh, my God i'd never done that before you do I was on married with children it was you know you stick to the script you do not. You know go off of what they have written for most television shows. Really Bizarre thing and I think what happened was I got into a group with it and that's why I ended up getting the job. How does I can play is safe for work how you got in the groove because some of the things that they say from the film or not what I said in the audition was as I can't repeat here. No, it was something that I just threw in I. Don't even know what I what I said, but I can't say it but I just I just heard like Adam McKay like cracking up and will started to crack up. There's actual footage of it of what I said on the audition tape. Okay and I think that was what got. That's got me the job. Now did you watch any specific local news anchors for your work? I did there was a documentary that? Was All, which is what sparked the idea of anchorman for will in for Adam which was sort of this this time when it was very misogynistic and there was no females in in that that arena and so I watched that which was really fascinating and I studied just some of the first female anchors during that time during the seventies and and their their voices were different and serious serious research I like Red You know Jessica savage his book you know I. was of Barbara Walters, and I know it doesn't appear that research when he watched the movie but I'm telling you right now I had to like find for me. I needed to have that information to see what kind of struggles it was like for a woman at that time come into that business and I didn't read those books but was there a part of Barbara Walters memoirs when she walked into an office and her colleagues were singing Cappella afternoon delight came in handy for you know more about like just trying to find who Veronica was. You Know End Veronica and and and that's what sort. Of inspired, her having three piece suits because I thought even though was a skirt she was wearing lake three piece suits in this the whole time because she's dealing in a man's world and I thought for her, she has to appear to be incredibly strong So there was a lot that came in with that the it was the voice, the the the motivation, the struggles of what these women were going through that time right and Then you kind of have to let it all go and just and sure and make the funny who was the one that you couldn't you couldn't keep from laughing. But Corral Steve Carell, we would leave like Paul would come to my room be like curls up and I'm like, let's go. Let's go and we'd go down to set to make sure that we sat and watched what he was going to do this. He's like the master they're all master Improv. Insane but. Carl was like you know virtually unknown at that time, and so he was this like revelation. US? And Heaven Forbid there was ever a guy. Like him. In in real enroll I, think that they exist but I have I have I have had Ron Burgundy moments where I have read the prompter. Just. You know because the words are there. Yeah. I have done that it has thank goodness you know to yourself sandy thankfully that hadn't happened but the chargers just did leave San Diego so we did make some reference Side. Correct. We talk about the whale here on the rich is here with Christina applegate Let's talk about Why so awake DOT COM and your? Association, with it, you suffered from insomnia for. Adult life variations of it. You know from from not being able to fall asleep till late in. But now what I, what my problem is, I can fall asleep but I wake up about five or six times during the night and. I by coming into this campaign with Weiss Oh wake dot com and with Merck I I learned that I was doing everything. Wrong. Number One, your phone, your tablet, your whatever you have The blue light actually activates the awake brain because there's two systems you have your wake system and your sleep system in your brain. It's the thing that just that the synapses that sort of dictate what's happening here? The blue light literally activates it. It tells like in seconds tells that the wake part of your brain to stay awake. So what are you doing? You're going before you go to sleep you're looking at your phone. And so you're literally waking yourself up. Your it's not content. It's not anything. It's an actual late on your phone because I do leave the phone to the side of the bed and sometimes when my kid comes in at three in the morning for whatever reason, there's always something sometimes, I'll just look at the phone just to see what time it is, and you basically just put an alarm off to your brain and I used to do that too, and then I'd be up. And now I like don't if I wake up in the middle of the night, I don't will not go near it because I know that it's GonNa stimulate, but I also turned down the blue light at six PM. It goes off and from six PM to seven. AM The blue light stays off what about diets have anything to do with this but what about Diet when you are? Too close to going to bed if you should have your room should be sixty eight degrees or lower I know for some people that's too cold will then put on socks, but it really is important to have that If you do fall asleep to the television to put your sleep timer on because oftentimes in the middle of the night, the television good goes louder especially if it's like infomercials and wake you up like if I fall asleep I can sleep. With the television on. A normal show, and then my husband got in this habit before turning on CNN and that literally would wake me up like I could have been asleep for four hours and then all of a sudden here. It's not their fault. It's like the it's not don lemon situation white loved on naming a volume thing. It's volume it's it's of tonality, but there's a lot of things you can do if you go to Wieser wake dot com it, there's like a survey you can kind of out what you may be doing wrong you know and and then how to solve it. You know talking to you know your doctor, your health, practitioner about what you can do you know there are certain you know herbs and Teas Teasing Yoga, and maybe just shutting it all off way before you go to bed shirt with the world because the world is stimulating shortest, shut it down to set it down man, take your mobile devices and you're telling him anything visually stimulating and put it away. So you're. At six o'clock at night your phones different. You turn off the television. Are you any better? Yeah, and it's funny the last month or so. I, I haven't been sleeping and then I looked at my phone this morning and for some reason I had shut it to goes from six am to seven am with my warm late. So I've I've been doing this to myself for like a month. Looking at my phone, setting my alarm and stimulating my brain. Well, thank God you found out something that will thank God for this program because I found out this morning when I was like Oh, maybe I should check that. So the rich Eisen show is. I'm probably going to sleep tonight because I didn't sleep last night. We people to sleep here on the rich. No, that's not good Promo. That's not that's not. It's not what we're supposed to be promoting but why so awake dot com is a great spot for you to check this out. If you are afflicted, that's a good word for it with with insomnia at why. So awake on twitter I'd like to take a sixty second breaking comeback and if you don't mind Chris Law, the bearded one that's across the way over there has has some questions about married with children. He'd like to see if you you can answer. Okay. If I can remember it was awesome. You saw an episode. Yeah it's been a long time. It's been a while. I was shooting the movie vacation in Atlanta and I would fall asleep to TBS. Now this is the funniest thing and At Five in the morning when I'm supposed to be getting up. I would get up and married children was on every morning at five. AM They we didn't have a sleep timer there so But? I'd wake up to myself and I'd be like. Wow God I was thin. Okay. Oh my gosh. You're doing great for yourself. Christina, link, let's put it that way Christina applegate here on the rich Eisen show your back in sixty seconds with more on. Just sixty seconds. Sports coming back. So does your chance to bet on them with our exclusive? We drink partner Ben, online? Major. League baseball is now in full swing and the NBA has also began. There's no shortage of ways to get in on the action better line has all the odds, futures and props for you to bet on visit bet online today to check out all the odds and up-to-date sports news. Don't forget to sign up and take advantage of all the welcome back to sports bonuses bet online your online wagering. visit our good friends and exclusive partner at podcast. One Bet online to take advantage of the best bonuses in the Business Center for free account and make sure to use that Promo Code podcast one for your Santa Bonus Visit Bit Online Dot AG and don't forget that Promo Code podcast one for your sign on bonus bed online your online sportsbook. Pleased to spend a few more minutes here in studio with Christina applegate How old were you when? Are you know married with children and Octavia when married with children knocked on the door fifteen fifteen and you're in the Strip off field like dirty old well I mean okay. I'm older than you. So yes, I was yeah I was fifteen and I i. Read the script did you think this is so right? It's wrong. Road Funny I did not want to do the show I thought it was at that time I was on a drama series and I thought it was disgusting and I wouldn't even audition for it, and then they went ahead and shot a pilot with two other kids and it just didn't for whatever reason the chemistry just didn't work and they came back to me and so will you please come in and I was like, no. And they sent me the pilot and my mom and I did not WanNa like it and we turned it on and we started we were stifling laughing. So I thought I'll go in by had never done comedy before. It's amazing because we've had Ed O'Neill on this show sitting in that seat and he said, you know because he was lenny of mice and men somebody saw him do lenny. Bondi, that's what I'm saying like he and I both kind of came from Lake being very. That your has been. An. Ends. Well, maybe that's it worked I think probably I know that my mom said to him on day one look Christina's operate good comedy we help her. I guess it just worked out eventually I. I figured it out. He's royalty. I mean he's absolutely Roy. We loved having him here. Any of the best job now, he like works today's. On modern on modern fell as a week after. He I don't know if you're aware he he told the story to that he wanted to play football are living and he got cut by the Pittsburgh steelers in nineteen, sixty, nine, ninety starts acting and now look at him. And it's an incredible story smart man I know Okay. All right. Here we go. Okay. Here's just an example. Just to give you an idea of what we're looking at here. Stuck in easy one, how many touchdowns did Al Bundy? Once famously score in a game they PULCI football ooh, this could be some trouble. That was just an example for. So what do you mean? What do you see? What do you mean by an example three touchdowns? Oh. Sorry guys. Okay. Sorry you guys. Law. I mean which which wanted. Now, let's get to the ones that probably. Not a girl about you personally and see if you know within five episodes, how many episodes did Kelly Bundy appear? In married with children. Within within fire with five, he wants to he'll give you five range like three, hundred and something. Who they're two hundred and sixty three episodes of the show. And you appeared in two, hundred, sixty, one of them. Okay. Only. Three hundred was how many shows I did appearances of. Sweet charity on Broadway I got that confused we did three, hundred, sixty five of those. See you are a legitimate actor. Comes down through the Broadway okay. Stena played your brother on the show Bud Bundy. Bundy's wrapping. Hold on hold on. GRANDMASTER BE BOO. MIC. Drop by. Drop. What was the name of the shoe store? Albany. Worked at. It's a dude's name. It's like Steve's or something like that or Gary's shaky accessories for today's woman, we'll give you half credit. What credit. Very. Good. Okay. Two more left. What does no Ma'am Stanford obviously, it was the group that national something of nomadic. Against Abbas odium Amazonian women. Mother. Womanhood, very close not with him is the National Organization of men against Amazonian. Master. Oh. Okay I'll give you credit for that too totally what was the name of out Bundy's playboy style adult magazine that was his preferred reading material of choice John's. That's that's a good game. It's bigots Vegas. Photograph even. You. Put production value into this. One for you. Okay. What Jersey number did Al Bundy wear PULCI come on. Because we talked about some of the Cameos on this show we've got a lot of law. Thirty, one or Twenty one or what is it? Maybe the three touchdowns came from this one, thirty three. COWS CLOSE ENOUGH By the way. By the way, you're not supposed to know the answers to any of these questions I know some okay. Okay. I want for you. Okay. Here we go. If I don't know if this ever ended up in the pilot, but L. Bundy says to Steve Rhodes. Stands. For. Do you know. What what the line is or is it stand for? What the line was not asking he says to him, you know Steve You know what PMS stands for. I don't know this one. Yeah this is a little known fact what does because I think it got cut out of the pilot because it was too risque. It's okay on this show, it's GonNa cuss Gopher Pummel Men's scrums. Chris Law, it you on the other foot. For. Talking about. So much fun. Thanks for coming on this show having we. As you can tell we're big fans big fancy at one C applegate and check out why. So awake dot com at Y. so awake on twitter to find out maybe why you are having trouble getting asleep it could be very simple fix right? What's gone. We've meant to bring this up yet. We just remembered that she's in the famous Matt Foley Motivational Speaker. Sketch from Saturday David Spade just can't keep trying not to laugh. You want to ask a question before we let them know. That how you not keep it together. It started because. spayed came down the stairs and he's still had his pink is shadow on from the gap girls sketch. So I was already a raw nerve, I was already raw and I started to laugh then and then when Chris came out, he had already done it pretty crazy in rehearsal. But when he came out, he was like on like eleven. So we none of us had seen it performed quite like that. So it's we lost it. How can you not it was crazy. Again a front row seat in part of some incredible. Moments for fine that's been credible by the way that were over cheeses no no. No. I'm saying that at all just it's remarkable how? Lucky. Yeah. Exactly. And by the way when she said eleven that was a spinal tap reference. Thank you guys have. My, they've not. They've not seen spinal tap. Them here are they Why are they employed? If they haven't seen spinal tap at fifty times question Christine like my favorite when my top favorite movies of all time exactly they have no idea it is. It is a master cloudy Spa. Oh stop. Spinal. This is spinal tap. came out. And you would love this the the big bottoms from spinal tap. Big Bombs. Much. My girls. Club yellow on the. Club's yes. Thank you. Thank you. Christina applegate here on the rich Eisen show on the final episode of Chris Law and Chris. Brockman. Talk with more in a moment. Hey. Hey, hey this nfl hall of Famer Ray Lewis. I'm excited to announce the launch of my new podcast every day greatness Ray Lewis podcast. 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ChristinaApplegate: Why She Had a Double Mastectomy

The Oprah Winfrey Show: The Podcast

39:54 min | 3 months ago

ChristinaApplegate: Why She Had a Double Mastectomy

"Twenty five seasons four thousand five hundred sixty one episodes. I believe the oprah winfrey show was one of the greatest classrooms in the world Rolling their bottom line. The off moments the breakthroughs the connections the occasional. Ugly cry so terribly. Every single minute the l. o. Ell's the moments that matter. I o blue light lessons. Never allow them to take you somewhere. I'm bringing them back. It's time to open the ball. I personally chosen these classic episodes to share with you again. Every single person you ever will meet shares that common desire. They want to know. Do you see me. do you hear me. That's what i say mean anything to you. You're listening to the oprah winfrey. Show the podcast. My guest today is not here to talk about her latest movie or new. Tv show actress christina. Applegate is here to tell her own story because she knows that there are millions of women watching right now and she wants to use this opportunity to speak about what she's learned about her own very recent battle with breast cancer. Every woman who has a breast or has to breasts cannot afford to miss this show. Welcome christina applegate grade. Don't be nervous. They're very friendly are beautiful. How are you doing how are you. I'm good if there are any survivors out there. You know that how many people in here are survivors. Wow i didn't know that then up so awesome all right so you guys know. It can be a little uncomfortable after five weeks. But that's about it really really comfortable. The recovery process is painful. Yeah it's it can be very painful and as you know women no it's also a part of you that's gone so you you go through a grieving process in a morning process. So that's that can be difficult some days. Yes some days yeah okay. Let's start from the beginning. Was someone with you when you found out. Yes my friend. Rachel was with me on for regular mammogram. Now you know i. I've been getting mammograms. Since i was thirty. Because of high-risk i've mother with rest cancer and and so my doctor said that the mammograms weren't enough for me because at the dennis of my breasts so he suggested that i get an mri last year. So i went and got the mirai and they found some some funky things going on. And i had a biopsy and this was about a week after my biopsy i found out they call you on the phone or they told me on the phone and i i knew i mean you know. You don't want to hear that ever i. How do they say it to you. It came back positive. And i was just you know like right now. I'm shaking remembering that moment as you guys know. You don't think it's going to happen to me. You would worrying fear of it because your mother has headed twice right at twice and there was. Yeah there was this part of me. That sort of knew that the other she was going to drop so basically they told me positive for breast cancer and explained what grade they thought it was in stage. They thought it was. And i was very very very early early stage. I was as early as not as early as you can get but earlier early enough i was just went into the mode of. Okay what do i. What do i do i get a surgeon okay. I get an oncologist and cut. That coming out of my mouth even was just so foreign in such a strange thing to say. Everybody knows that you're talking about. Which is your cancer doctor. And i went in right away. I mean i'm really. I'm a secretary. I don't know if any of you are and we need things done now so for me. I had to get in now when i wanted to have my surgery now now for you. Several days later no like the next day on college and met my surgeon that same day and within a week i had my first lumpectomy which then that came back with the margins weren't clear enough so i had to have a second back to me and lumpectomy is when they just extracted out. Act it out and they always wanna make sure that the margins are you have to be put to sleep for that as well. Yeah yeah i know you do. And they also do they biopsy lymph node to make sure that there's no spreading. That all happens at that particular time and really. My treatment plan was going to be the lumpectomy and radiation for six weeks. No chemo no chemo. But then i got tested positive for the gene and that sort of changed everything for me because radiation was really just something temporary and it wasn't addressing the issue of this coming back or the back in my left breast so i was sort of had to come away on my options at that point. So when did you make this. Radical decision came on really fast. Was one of those things that i woke up and it felt so right because the thing about radiation was just didn't never felt right to me and that's not to say that radiation is not a great treatment plan for people it just seemed like i don't want next year to have to deal with this again so you just made the decision that you were going to let both go yup. I was just going to let them go. Then did you try. You know i. At first i didn't. And then. When i met with my doctor and i told him that was my decision. And he brought the surgeon and that was like it was the floodgates just opened up and i lost it The only thing that i've ever seen was my mom's and and that was in the seventies and they didn't do a very good job than in my own mind. I'm thinking oh my god. I'm going to be like butchered in. It's going to be horrible and never gonna love my part of me again it. Just that's what. I thought. But i did a lot of research and know they can make some pretty bubis very pretty. I want you to hear this email. We got from darlene from ramona. California before even knew christina was coming on this show darlene had written to us about you. So stand up darling cheers. Someone wrote song now. I am going to crack to she back here. Yeah there oprah. When i read about christina applegate could not believe that such beautiful celebrity would come forward about her decision to have a double message after being diagnosed with breast cancer. I share these feelings with you. Because you see when i was thirty. Seven years old. I also had a double mastectomy. I immediately wanted to reach out to christina and thinker. She has my utmost admiration and gratitude. For what. I wish. I could let the world know when i went through it instead of living in secrecy with a domestic to me in a world where we are all against breast size in tight fitting clothes. It was amazing christina. Make me feel normal again after eleven years. Thank you christina. Applegate grew up playing the not so bright kelly bundy on the hit. Ninety s sitcom married with children over the years christina kept the last coming on. Tv the big screen and broadway now with another hit tv show and an emmy nod for her lead role on abc's samantha who christina's at the top of her game but her triumphant return to tv was overshadowed when a few months ago christina received a shocking diagnosis. She had breast cancer. Adjust thirty six years old christina's cancer was discovered only one breast but after learning. She tested positive for the breast cancer gene. She made the dramatic decision to have both breasts removed. Now i mean every woman who has to go through it has her own personal spiritual encounter with this with this and if you have the spotlight on you and the tabloids are speculating about where you are. And what's going on. Does that make it harder. I mean does it makes it harder because you kind of you can't walk around in that mode but it also become such a blessing. I talked to melissa ethridge who i know you know two days after i was diagnosed. And the first thing she said to me is christina. This is a blessing. That's happened to you and your life and right now you get to start over and right now you get to change everything the way that you deal with things in life the way that you react to things. Fear can hurt you. Stress can hurt. You know this is the time that you have this opportunity to change the way you eat the way everything you do. And for me also. This was the blessing of. I'm thirty six year old person with breast cancer and not not that many people know that happens to women my age or women in their twenty s and so this is my opportunity now to go out and fight as hard as i can for early detection and that's not mammograms that's emory's insurance doesn't pay for and the gene testing that it doesn't pay for so yeah it became it. Became this very strange blessing in my life. More of our conversation in just a moment in twenty twenty one. It's finally okay to talk about her mental health and happiness. Humans aren't meant to keep everything inside. It makes us sick and therapy helps. But what is there a be exactly. It's whatever you want it to be. Maybe you're not feeling motivated right now and would like some tools to help or maybe you're feeling insecure in relationships or at work not dealing with stress. Whatever you need. 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This podcast is sponsored by better help and our listeners get ten percent off their first month at better help dot com slash stitcher. That's better h e l p dot com slash stitcher. Anybody else feel that way. Less magazine stories called the breast cancer. Monologues and i wanted to read what dana cowin wrote about her experience. She's editor and cheap food and wine magazine and like christina. She had a double mastectomy. And she says i was really sad about losing my breasts. Those small they were my favorite body part. Every morning in the shower. I looked down and lament their impending loss. I wanted to memorize their contours. I wanted to hold onto the feeling of what it was like to behold you ever have any of that did i have that i actually. I did my first and last nudie photo shoots at home. I made sure that i have. I have close up photographs of them from every angle. So i can kind of remember them. Yeah i know but the new you've got are they. I because i'm not there yet and so you're still in the I have expanders in that. Those do is they keep expanding over a few months until they they take those out and put in your implants what keeps expanding this. They have the strange little thing that they insert in there. And they they keep filling it up with sailing to expand behind the muscle so that it prepares you for your implant. Okay you know you look down right now. you don't have implants. no i have expanders which the same. but you've got scarring and there's a lot of things you're missing as we know and the shape is not the same and it doesn't feel the same and it's hard to carry your purse and there are so many limitations to it and yeah it's sad. I cry at least once a day about it because it's It's hard to overlook it you know when you're standing there in the mirror. It's hard that's like you know when you look down. The first thing you see and rushing teeth and it's what you see and you're reminded constantly of this thing this this cancer thing that you had. Yeah that can be really difficult. Use it like a. I don't have to wear a bra ever again. So i look at the bright side too. Yeah but is there a part of you too obvious. I mean ensure. I'm on these emotions going on because there is like and i thought that was so well written. I missed their contours. I limit their loss Their impending loss but then there is the you have ridge yourself. The cancer doesn't that feel like a victory abbas no absolutely absolutely i have taken a very progressive stance and the rest of my life. Dr philomena mcandrew is christina. Applegate oncologist that word and attending physician at cedars. Sinai medical center in los angeles christina as you've heard tested positive for the breast cancer gene and a lot of people. I'm sure don't know what that means. And what exactly is that over. What the breast cancer gene. There may be a number of breast cancer genes but the one that is the most important one that we know increases the risk of developing breast cancer called the bracket gene. And this these are alterations. In one of two genes that are called bracco one and bracket two. We know that the these genes are very important in preventing breast and ovary cancer and in people. Small percentage of people really have a just a single change in one little part of that gene. That does not allow it to do its job. Most people do not have it. Most breast cancers are not inherited most press kale most or not inherited which is why when people say. I have not had a family history of breast cancer. So i'm not worried about getting breast cancer. That really is not the message. That people should take hope from here. It is that most breast cancers are not inherited and that in the people who do have a strong family history. It's very possible. Their risk may be much higher than the general population does having the gene. You're gonna get breast cancer. That's a big question in people that have the water two gene mutation. The chance lifetime of getting breast cancer is up to eighty seven percent. Now doesn't mean that every person who carries that gene will but it is up to eighty seven percent and the chance of getting ovarian cancer can be up to forty percent. So that's a very important statistic as well and when someone who has that she gets breast cancer their chance of getting breast cancer in the other breast cancer up to fifty five zero percent. If we look at the general population someone who doesn't carry bap particular breast cancer gene. Their chance of getting breast cancer in the other breast is only somewhere between two and ten percent so so christina said something earlier about her having dense breasts and therefore a mammogram wasn't enough. So should all women with dense breasts be having is. That's a tough one. I think that insurance doesn't pay for mri. Many do not so there are certain situations where the insurance company at least should pay and lease the recommendations are coming down from the societies and the radio logic societies to recommend mri is the density of the breast is another issue that we'll talk and by density we mean how big they are no dense and it doesn't even mean how it feels density mammogram in x ray and it's a negative so we look at think about taking pictures a negative. There are things that let the light pass through and other things. That don't but i think of a very dense breast is like you're looking through a snowstorm. You really can't see much go an. Mri can look through that density. Because it's really looking at other aspects. So we're we as individuals with the press. Would we know whether or not our breasts were denser. Not now the radiologist only radiology. Not by if you're not my wc or and there are women who have very small breasts that can be either fattier. Dense women with large breasts can have either fattier dense breasts and with age. We used to think that as that younger women had dense breast but older women did not. And that's not true so if you can afford it would you be better off. Just going for the mri. No and the reason for that is that the is going to miss certain things so we really have to use all of the different treatment. Options himself asked everybody's still rests self-examination. We need to mammogram because mammogram is very good at picking up calcification and some other changes that can happen in the breast oncologist. Dr philomena mcandrew recommend these guidelines. When it comes to testing for breast cancer all women should get yearly mammograms. The basic as that helped doctors see tumors or tiny deposits of calcium in the breast. Dr magana says they should begin at eight thirty five to forty. But if you have a family history consult your doctor about starting younger. In addition to mammograms. Dr mcandrew says women should also consider an m. r. i. An mri uses three d. imaging and helps doctor's see what a mammogram may have missed. Ask your doctor about an mri. If you have any of the following if you carry the breast cancer gene if you have silicone breast implants if you have very dense breasts or if you had radiation to your chest a teenager so the truth is you should be asking your doctor. Do i have dense breasts or not. I think so. I think that one has to say when they're told their mammograms normal. What does that really mean as normal mammogram. If it is dense but still be hiding abnormality so if one feels something that would be where an ultrasound can be health right. You pal paid feel something and the mammogram doesn't show it right then. One needs to do an ultrasound. And if that doesn't show it and there's any question at all about this being other than maybe just a little bit of glandular tissue. An mra may be very helpful in distinguishing. If there's something to be concerned about well obviously you know. This happened to me want. I'm sure it's happened to you that you go. And they do have very dense breasts. And i had felt something and it didn't show up on the mammogram. And there's a part of you this just so happy to hear it's clear it's okay. It took me a moment to say. Well i would like to go further and have you give me an ultrasound because i really did feel something. Oh and that is that is such a concern because you need to be your own advocate. We are honored to introduce our next guest honored as close as two people could be. We did everything together. She was an amazing woman. When suzy was thirty three she was diagnosed with breast cancer. And it was a very difficult time back in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight. No one talked about it. Doctors barely knew how to treat it. There wasn't an there. Were no one eight hundred numbers to call. There are no support groups for patients. I sister lost her battle with breast cancer one day shortly before she died we were sitting in her living room remember. She was very weak and she looked at me and she said nanny. When i get better. I want you to promise me. We're going to work to make sure that this doesn't happen to other families. It's been almost thirty years and still is not a day goes by that. I don't miss susie. Wow okay. let's have a moment. You might also know. Suzy as susan g komen. Nanny is really gives me goosebumps because one woman. Nancy created the susan g komen foundation in one thousand nine hundred eighty to fulfill that promise to her baby sister now. Her organization has given over one billion dollars so it all started because of a tragedy and you turned it into something that can be triumphant for millions of women. I hope so. I'm behalf of them. I say thank you. Thank you thank you. Before i came out i said to myself bring myself back all the time to the time when before we had this kind of awareness and it was thinking there was no color pink. There were no one eight hundred numbers. There were no patient support groups. People couldn't even say the words breast out loud right. We couldn't use those words when we talked about our foundation. My sister used those words. She couldn't say it was so scary and she was your age. Maybe she was thirty three when she was diagnosed so it was very different time and four years after your sister died of breast cancer. You were right. Same kind kind of breast cancer. She had and i was terrified. I thought i'd never live to do. Finish the promise that i made tour. I decided i told her before she got the took. The rest of my life. I would do this. i just didn't really would take. And what a journey it's been. What an amazing journey. It's been because i love our organization is my sister to me. And the hundreds of thousands of people work in it every day survivors. Every day i get to see a parade of progress. Where did you up with the idea for. First of all pink. And then the race. For the cure oprah. It was hope i grew up in illinois and i didn't have. I didn't go to harvard. But you know i had a great education but i had a background in marketing and i was so disturbed at the way people talked about breast cancer. It was a death sentence. It was equated to put in this thing. We've got got to lighten up the landscape. Somehow we got to educate people that even then there are breast cancer survivors. On the right people would cross the street and not talk to my sister. They thought she was contagious. And i had to change that. I said we have got to change this. I there must be awareness and then there can be changed. So that's where the race for the cure came from. That's where all that came from. Now you've said before that you hope people learn from your sister's mistakes but not being able to reach out. She's very comfortable in her hometown with her one doctor and she wasn't able. I tried to get her to a comprehensive cancer center. Even in those days it's hard to get in but she just couldn't she couldn't and i know because she she couldn't face he thought at member in those days treatment was worse even than the disease. Right thought you die right and she felt safe because her positions told her she was going to be fine well it was an error however even with all that i think she would have lost her life because she had very aggressive disease. Yeah so after that first race for the cure. How many people participated in the first race. You first race the cure we had seven hundred people. Everyone told me that it would fail. And i said just let me try it one time just one time. So eight hundred people showed up. It was drizzling that day. Everything was against us. I thought we were going to have to get people's dogs cats and children to come but they came and the day i saw the first race. We even brought a mammogram which no one had ever seen to the parking lot and showed people walked him through and said look at this and by the way. Look at the woman next to you she. She's alive and she had breast cancer. So i knew. I could visualize my mind that this was going to be replicated over the world and this was going to be the one event i didn't know about the internet. Then that was gonna yes makes people relate and bond and celebrate survivorship and celebrate hope. And that's the most important thing is the hope. My name is carmen. I'm a mother daughter fighter something about breast cancer. The way happens to you. It does not come in now and it's barely expected. It doesn't discriminate and there is no profile for the disease. I was thirty two years old healthy single mom raising a beautiful and spirited three year daughter. My mother was a nurse. Sivan's wings helping sam's i was a teenager. I had no family. History of breast. Cancer doesn't care if you're young or old doesn't care what your best laid plans are. It takes residents in your life. Unexpectedly doctor had been china. Call me. She called my desk phone first and then my cell phone in my desk phone again when i saw her number. I knew i just knowing my heart that i had breast cancer before i placed the call back to her. And you'll be the last thing. I did that day. I thought i can't leave my daughter. I wouldn't give my left leg and arm to st here with her. Can't leave without a mom. I was terrified. Well famous says that she knew before. The doctor said a word that she had the cancer. How'd you know there's some things you just know. You don't wanna storm coming. You can smell the rain you know and you know. Women's intuition is still powerful. Guy gives us great gift coin tuition. We ignore it sometimes. And i just felt like my body wasn't really doing. It wasn't really the way it was supposed to be really tired. Having night sweats. I was really exhausted. And i just knew intuitively. How are you now. i'm doing so well. God is so good. I'm doing well god. Give him all the glory. Yeah you told our producer. The person you were before your diagnosis was a facade. What do you mean by that. Well women are you know. We tend to put his mask on. We're told to be so strong to be powerful. We have mothers were daughters. Were teachers were accountants. Were errand runners and we have this facade of just being so strong and that's not healthy. I had this whole facade. being superwoman. Always being perfect and a breast cancer it strips you of that because you realize that that's not important. Being perfect is now important. The bed's straight now important to have everything your outfit. Your hair is doesn't matter all that matters inside and the people that you love are important in your heart and soul are important. When i was laying in bed going through chemotherapy. My mother one time. She found me in the bathroom. I was crying. I didn't want to hear me crying. So i turn the shower on a closed door. But i was bald naked and in the tub in a fetal position crying and she came to me. And she's like you gotta survive. I said but i'm ugly. I look horrible. My breasts was scarred and my hair was bald. And i said who's gonna want me. What if i die. Who's going to take care of my daughter new. All what kind of mother am i. And she said You're gonna live gonna make it. You are woman doesn't matter whether you have here at a matter. What whether you have breasts. And i realized the facade of the makeup the facade of the hair the facade of the power suit. I didn't need that anymore. Because the real men came out. Sounds like a spiritual journey as well. It's a for every woman i've ever talked to who's been through it. It's a spiritual transformation that occurs. We met say six years ago. A thirty two year old mother who was diagnosed with an aggressive form of breast cancer at first sharna doctor told her not to worry about the lump that he'd found under her arm but sharna demanded a mammogram because she had a feeling it was something more sharp at was right and shared her powerful message to all young women. I want every single woman. Every single physician every single person in charge of google screening and who does not to know that breast cancer is a life threatening disease for all women not just women over the age of forty. Do not wait. Do not just take that smile and say okay. You're right i'm fine. Shar nets. cancer went into remission shortly after that show but her cancer has returned and has spread to her lungs and to her brain. Char net wanted to say something. She's joining us by skype from her living. Them what did you want to say to us. I wanna say it's been six year and it still hasn't changed. They're still so many young women. Being diagnosed with breast cancer. Every single day added needs to stop it really does and we need to focus more attention on prevention of breast cancer and it just really needs to stop. What gives you hope right now. Dr. net which gives me the most hope is that i know that in this world is not about how long we live but what we do with our time while we are here and so. That's why i dedicated my life to doing everything i can everything. I can make sure that no other mother has to tell their child is. They're not gonna live long enough to see them. Grow out like what was told to me. Thank you thank. You bless you. So i asked the question. What can friends and family members do. What should their role be. Just give hands on support. People need to be touched. Because you feel so alone you so isolated a buddy to go with them to treatment to call them every day someone to deliver meals buy groceries clean their house. Watch your children. My family was so helpful. They come to and watch my daughter's here give her a bath driver to school. Because you're so exhausted. You don't really think you think i'm strong. I'll be fine but if after a four months six months year of treatment. Your body is just so tired so skin surround the person if they don't need help i'm strong. Don't listen to that woman. She's being superwoman. Ignore her were you able to reach out was absolutely know. I'm very honest. Sometimes i get into superwoman mode and try to pretend like you know. I'm completely fine with all of this. But then i do tell everyone like you said. Just remember guys. I really don't feel that way. So it's really nice when they can kind of rally around you and anti. I feel very much the same way. I'm lucky to be surrounded by loving friends and my mother was with me all the way through and i tried to be there for my sister to the very end jeanie and her mom. Betsy join us on skype from their living room into lido ohio. Betsy is currently battling stage. Three breast cancer gene has questioned for the doctor jeannie. My mom veasley was recently diagnosed with breast cancer. And i was wondering if there any lifestyle or diet changes that i should start making now to give myself a better chance of living. Cancer free genie. That's such a brilliant thing to ask because there are things that we can do that really can help to reduce our risk of developing breast and other cancers as well obviously the lifestyle issues if one looks at some of the studies that have been done women who've already had breast cancer one nutritionals very large. Nutritional studies showed that there was a twenty five percent reduction in the cancer spreading if the women went on low fat diet mean. This was amazing. This is a number similar to what some drugs could do. Really and this is a lifestyle change we know that exercise also has decreased the risk of developing breast cancer. Wow so those are those things. Oh fat diet not low car but everybody tries to do for. There's not gonna be enough capacity or money in the world to treat the cancer. That's developing today. We have got to embrace provincial. We've got to. It's got to be a high priority items country thank you gene. Gene is on skype her. She's in her bedroom. That's a great way to watch the oprah show i'm doylestown pennsylvania you have a question Yes i'm actually thirty seven weeks pregnant and i was diagnosed with breast cancer when i was about eighteen weeks pregnant. And what can women look for. What can they look for in order to help them. So i can help at least one person in this world so that they don't have to go through this. It is very confusing time when one is pregnant and the bresser changing and many of the changes. That happen are confusing because it may be just milk in the duct it may be a little inflammation of the duck that happens and oftentimes the patients. Don't know how. I ended up just a second doctor. How did you discover this. Tina that i actually. I was just sitting on the couch and had scratched the important thing here. Is that examining your own breasts knowing realizing something's different presenting it to your doctor so you can have therapy. We do find that. There has been a slight increase in risk of breast. Cancer is happening around pregnancy and especially as all of us have tended to push our pregnancies little later on rather than in early twenties. Now we're getting more and more so there are increasing numbers of women. Who are going through what you're going through. So what are you going to do. What is the process of what's going to happen to you. I just finished a first round of chemotherapy and their inducing. The on monday and then two weeks after that. I'm going to start another round of chemotherapy and radiation and then to mexican. actually wow. That's a lot with a new baby. Thank you for sharing good morning. Six years ago. I went to a chemotherapy session with one of my guests. Are you guys. Laurie are salani was a mother of two and battling breast cancer. She was six weeks into her intense chemotherapy treatments. When i went along to see what it's like. Were you scared when you first started your first treatment absolutely because you don't know what's going to happen to you all right. We're ready judy. This is one of the two drugs chance. It's tax wisconsin cells that are growing too fast in our body. That's why she has signed fixed. That's why she's lost her hair. That's because kills other cells as well for hair will grow back in. I think that's a good thing to say to everybody. The hair comes back. It always comes back stars and i notice you're holding the picture my girls you look at that and then you say i can take this laureus here today at a hair all back. The hair growth. I'm very good. I have found to say that. I'm a six year survivor. Cancer free and i also have a new addition to my family. Baby boys. I love the opportunity to be able to come back on and say there is life after diagnosis and i was blessed to be cancer free for six year. Continue with my life and even have another child so there. There is life after diagnosis. You didn't absolutely positive about everything you know. I've been blessed. I haven't had breast cancer but there was a one woman on our show years ago. Aaron cramped remember her doing the tapes for her daughter of running chevrolets for the cures in her name. And thank you for creating that bond of women holding up other women. That's that's how we're gonna get through this. Yes why. I've come out is because i am a perfect example of early detection and that i'm not going to die from this disease so it's so important that no matter what you think if someone tells you you're forty it doesn't matter we. We've got to have early detection early. Screening prevention and we also have to start having these insurance companies. Pay for these exams. Because it's it's ridiculous that there s god bless you girl up everybody by. I'm over winfrey. And you've been listening to the oprah winfrey show the podcast if you haven't yet apple podcasts. And subscribe rate and review. This podcast. join me next week. For another oprah. Show the podcast. I thank you for listening.

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Did Anyone Tell You: What To Watch, Listen To and How This Summer Has Changed Us All

"All. Right. Here. We are another season of no one. told me. Can you believe we're going into year three? I'm just assuming you out loud like no. I can't believe that this. Crazy. If, you're new to the gas tie on the. So excited to have you here, this is a space we created for shared experiences. Knowing that your story for this story is someone else could play a big part in making me feel a little less alone in a little more part of something. I'm Kelly a working mom too with the husband of almost ten years who realized early on. I don't always really know what I'm doing, but there's got to be people who can help me figure it out. There are people who've already done this in. Those are the people who can help us figure it out. And that's why no one told me exists. If I'm honest thousand percent honest which I always hoped to be on here. I felt a little restless about the season. And let me here in. Amen. If you agree feelings can be exhausting. Just thinking about starting a new season. Made me go for another round of those Ritz toasted chips dipped and the trader. Joe's Buffalo Chicken deb. Now, that's oddly specific I. Get it. But if you're like me and you like to eat your feelings, this should be one of your go to's also the rediscovery of trader Joe's the summer while they limited the number of people in the store. So you could actually I mean just leisurely make your way up and down the aisles was honestly like a mom to my overly anxious soul anyhow back where I was saying. Feelings, are exhausting. Right. But I've developed a new approach trying something new I will not make decisions in exhaustion. Whether. I'm physically mentally emotionally or spiritually exhausted. Any decision I make within that time will most likely be driven by my feelings. And like I've said before. Our feelings are liars somehow, they eventually turned into facts that route themselves deep into our hearts. So, what I mean as we sit in these feelings, so long that we start filling in the unknown with what we believe to be facts. I am the queen of not filtering my thoughts before I speak them, which makes this whole Mike thing in my hand every week, a very dangerous scenario. But when I'm meet people I get so caught up and getting to them and sharing my various thoughts and feelings on whatever they're sharing that I don't actually consider what I've said until I'm driving away. Do you know that feeling. When you're like I sounded like an idiot or? Oh. My should I really said that and eventually I create this whole scenario where they're driving home calling their husband or their mom or whoever to tell them about the idiot. They had to talk to fifteen minutes and that that was me. Those thoughts are driven by feelings of insecurity. Did you get that? Feelings. Yet, we create entire scenarios, these perceived outcomes around a simple feeling. And then we go deeper into those feelings and then those homes those scenarios get worse. It's a really awful cycle. Honestly, it's dangerous cycle. What starts as I. Think they're mad at me because they are mad at me. What starts as I don't know if I can do it because I can't do it. I'm not sure anything will change becomes nothing will ever change fill in that blank with anything. We take a feeling, we convince ourselves. It is reality a factual part of our lives. And that happens most often an isolation. When no one else knows that thought swirling around in our hearts, and then what happens more `isolation more exhaustion. I self creative narrative is rarely positive. When we use it to fill in the blanks, it's flat out destructive. So the restlessness and uncertainty that I felt about this season, where feelings that drove me to create a narrative that was destructive. But the moment I put words to those thoughts to those feelings. The moment I let someone else in. They lost some of their power. Honestly those words lost most of their power as soon as I spoke them. Because I allowed others to speak truth into the gaps, I was no longer filling it in myself. This podcast was born because we realize the power of shared knowledge, the power of our stories in the power of letting people in. So, we're starting fresh with brand new take. No one. Told me my commitment to you. The listener is to only bring people who've made me better. Who I know will make you better know more cold calls asking people to come on or looking for who has a lot of followers are influenced. nope. You are too important for that. We're leaning into shared experiences this season, and if you have ideas a story, a hurt or just need some encouragement, make sure you're following us on Instagram at n, not M podcast. Because I, love hearing from you. All seriously. I love it i. get so excited anytime. I. Get to hear from you. and. If you like what you hear or you've heard or what you've heard in the past, it goes a long way when you share. Mainly because I get real when I talk about myself and it's honestly it's just painful to watch for everyone. So, we're starting this brand new season with a surprise episode mainly because some of the stuff we talk on here is timely and the longer. I. Wait the more of a dead, this episode could be. So we're watching, you know we're just going for it. It's a summer recap. Did anyone tell you which is just an installment? We do every now and then to equip you with information that only proves useful to fill in those uncomfortable silences on zoom call or to prove to those younger than you that you're still cool. Even though you've really gotten into the art, of Crochet, lately. Okay, that's me. I'm talking about me, but these are two of my favorite people, Kaley Cari. They're here to talk about what's worth watching on one of your forty streaming platforms Taylor. Swift's absurd abilities to turn out an album in secret and. My personal favorite. That I probably took entirely too for. Hamilton. Before you say or think thinking I. Get it. That was like a month ago, but I'm still listening to the soundtrack and I needed to know more. So you get to know more to. All right. Here's did anyone. Tell you summer addition? We've made it through the summer, the summer of a pandemic. Life is not as we thought, it would be this liver. And so to catch up on everything that has gone on we, of course, have kaylene Corey, and let me tell you something the amount of messages I got listen I'm trying out here, release these podcasts at our life-changing, really like investing in you and growing you as an individual, and you know what? y'All come back with what you WANNA. Do you WanNa Kaylene Gary? This. Is Life. I've. So we've brought them back and we're going to talk about the things that matter the most, and that is anything going on in pop culture. Business. We want to give you a get to go back to your office if you get to go back to school. Whatever it may be. We're going to be things to talk about which I don't know how you wouldn't know these because what else are you doing other than watching things? Yeah. I feel like they already know everything. We're GONNA tell them. It's all right before we get into all that catches up guys. How was the summer? Give us some highlights what's going on. Also at off, I'll start off with a low light of quarantine slash summer. I did knee surgery so I. Count. Yes. Like. Months because time during the pandemic just works differently either seems like it was a day ago or like. March felt like it lasted for years who now it's August and I feel like we just got the summer. Right. That's a good point. That's a huge low light. Highlight. I would say I don't know going on more walks. You couldn't walk what you I know like being able to walk again. Learning how to six weeks were horrible. But yeah, it's been. It's been a weird just the weirdest summer, but it hasn't been. It hasn't been that bad. You feel like you missed out on anything that you would have done. Okay. So something for me, this is a hypothetical that just popped in my head. I guess. This was the highlight is just random things pop into my head like never before but. What I would be willing to give up to go back to February. If I knew what was about to happen I would have taken some time off I would've gone to the Super Bowl, I would've gone to Broadway plays. Traveled the world in February. If, I knew what was coming. If you could go back to February and you're like an all of a sudden, it was laid in front of you what was going to happen beginning in March, and it wasn't GonNa be over a May like we thought it was still going all the way into fall. What is what they would have for? Sure done. One thing. Well, probably go to Disneyworld probably, go to concerts. It would be those two things just because that could be practical. I could just take a few days off and do that or go to concerts on weekends which I go to concerts a year, but I don't know when. To. Those. Concerts. Yes. Possibly like an international trip and I don't say that I don't take those I. Think I would make that happen. Make it a priority. Yeah. Like I would somehow I would do whatever sell organs and go on an international trip in February. Don't you feel like now I? Guess it's a different mindset, but it almost is like, Hey, if you wanna do it, do it do it because I, mean you don't know all of a sudden went up pandemic screaming, and that sounds so cliche. Cliche. Just like we had this idea that you could plan things out like this is shown as you can't. So if you're like Oh, let's do this thing this weekend or next. No idea to the only thing we did. Right. We went and let me tell you all when we were Disney mid-february. So let me tell you what we were exposed throughout the coronavirus to tell you right now, we were able to the nation's biggest airport. Both those times and I remember seeing people wearing masks and I was like y'all weird. Little. Did I know foreshadow? I was like, why are people are? People were there was only maybe ten people in the entire import where mask and I remember thinking Gosh you little paranoid archie, and now all of a sudden, we all wear the mask wearing them right now, we're rolling up into the target with our mask on I haven't been to target. Let me tell you into target I have not been into a target since C.. O. April cleaning. I, feel comfortable on their, they're cleaning the self-checkout like after every other person. So I started going to target to nausea to admit. Also a creature of habit, and so I got into all of these habits and routines of not going anywhere, and so now. I. Just don't realize by summer was I moved I moved in. April. So I showed my to such a cool which. Ago. Sold. My House move to a loft, and then I had to buy stuff like I had to I, completely changed my life. So I had to get rid of stuff and buy new things, and so I wasn't target. Like in April March April, wearing no masks because of the time, it was still up in the air that was even a thing I was out there and target this shopping living my life. Still do it where I'm asking although I took the kids to a store. This is this week. took him out to Walmart for the first time they have. Literally not been into a store I. Choose. For the Knoxville people was at the Chapman Highway Walmart. A. We're going to go. We're going to go right. are at the bottom and we work. Around. That's true. But we you would have thought they had to wear their mask and they would have done anything to get to go in that store. If I had said, guys, I need you to. Toboggan and active told them to do anything if it meant, they got to go into a store. They were ready and prepared to do it, and they put their masks on the kept him on the whole time it was, and now every day they wake up, can we go to store today like? With me, I'm going all the time. Like don't judgment. No one at me after that statement. Sorry. Fine. However, your mask does I I look at it. I. Think it's a cow print. It is a cow print. Is it? Yeah. It's a little cow print I says, you got this and boarded on the side, the local eighty. Flowers my mom. Me and Tara Masks. Custom runs. A little sweater for your face. All I only wear it inside when it's cold like I can't. I've tried to worry that physical therapy and I'm like, I can't breathe. Gosh. That's my mom is a mass making machine right now, he's made Henley going to kindergarten. We're going in on it. She's made Henley twelve masks. We'll. You've got different outfits and this point we might as well. We need to start coordinate. I laughed at that one old navy sonar like we're GONNA mess. Yes. We are I'm telling you about it was the dumbest thing in the world. Then I was like, no, this is I. Get it. I get it where else do bike sense. Okay. So I know that we all for a season. It's been a lot time inside. We weren't going anywhere some of US still aren't going anywhere I mean. We and I honestly were so anxious and stressed the first two months. 'cause I'm just something in in aging has brought exile to me, but I wanted to turn my head off I. would stay up way too late watching something stupid something that didn't really matter because I liked not having to think about anything and at night was my only window to not have to do anything that brings us to the first topic is your TV shows of the. The summer what I WANNA do it this way. What's something? They're like, Hey, you gotta watch this. This is good and worth it. What's something? That is like, Hey, saved this. You know like you might have some downtime. You might want something in the background. Do that in something like a just ignore this. Don't even don't even I tried it and it was no good or go watch this is i. mean for the summer. It's gotTA. Be. Outer Banks. New. and. Yeah, I. Mean it was GonNa. Kinda just took me back to like the Friday Night Lights. The like high school drama of it I even like the newer age of that with like. All American. If you haven't watched that also watch those. So Watch, this was definitely that. and. Just had the treasure hunt feel to it like it was great like I was on legitimately the edge of my seat, especially, like episode five Oh one. So did you know into Lhasa was renewed? For? SEASON, two. Yes. So Turn I watched seven straight episodes like so we watched episodes one through three on Thursday night, and then on Friday night we stayed up and mind you turn is times like ten PM and we stay pretty strict to that. We're up until like two thousand and that. So what? I know, and here's the thing. It's not gonNA. Change. Your Life. The dialogue is not gonNA blow your mind. None of those things. It is one of the things you said it best. Culture of like Gosh I remember what it was like if you're not in high school. Yes. Everything but also. There's no reality to it. So don't be like no run around like that and do what you don't know. Okay, just. Type. It was shot in my favorite city in the United States. South, Carolina, and are they I. Need to know the actors in that show? Are they aren't high schooler now? No. There there is. Twenty seven. But then it's weird to me how they play high schoolers. Just how would you mentally get into that space? Kayla your twenty-seven? Are you know? Probably when this airs I twenty. Nine. I'm not ready to talk about it. I'm ready I. Love It. Listen come on into the thirties with. High. School dramas like I love pretty little liars. Anything. Still saving gossip girl. It's one of my state of literally been saving you. Could, sit up. There's too much. I will never. LOSE ARK FOR THE FIRST TIME? Very dark dark. Loved it so that that was definitely the watch this for us for the save this and I'm not like. This is not something that's new at all. But if you want to give reality TV a chance and something that's like. Still Competition based, which I like that Taryn I have gotten hooked on survivor. It's so good and I slept on all this time like I was just like Oh survivor. So, this forty. I pretty sure. I was in high school. So yeah, it's literally been on twenty years. Some of our friends kind of made a watch list. Fifteen seasons of it so We've decided we're GONNA watch all the ones from the HD? Because like it started being full screen, which it bothers me on Hulu when it's not the full hulas that where you streaming. So there's thirty four seasons of it on there. So we've watched probably we've watched like four or five. We haven't a crazy amount, but we're going to watch like seasons twenty all the way through forty. Just, because season forty apparently is all winners. I seasons someone from Knoxville. One. Tina. There was a lady from Knox. A Blonde Lady. We Really Watch like. Literally, cream on in two thousand. Watched it from day. One we started. A family and they still don't miss it they still to this day watch and they watch it live. So if you've never given a chance, that's definitely a save this and there's so many great seasons. Definitely suggest that, and then also if you've never watched the challenge, which is basically MTV's Raunchy version of survivor, but it is seriously, it's so greg I'm not the competitions are in saying the people that are the engineers that are making these like they're hanging off the side of eighteen wheelers for these and like, yes, they're like have a harness and stuff they're not actually going to die, but that's definitely talented. I can't, but I can't with those. It's great because it's the reality. TV. But it's also the competition. You get your rooting for the people that you really don't want to be there. You're like, oh. Goodness. I hope they get voted off. I. Hope they lose the challenge. So they get sent home like. It really is a satisfying feeling when that happens, you get your characters that you like and you root them on until the. Intern. Just like mindless. On board with I just need a little bit of that in your life. So that's the safest, and then ignore this for me was tiger king like we just couldn't get into it we. Episodes and I'm not. There's too many other. There's too much other content out there and I feel like I can pick up on what happened and tiger king from the memes from everyone posted about it. I. Was like, I. Don't feel the need to watch this looking back now, Ron and I watched it so fast because the story was just so absurd that you had to know what was going to happen next because it was an insane story I. saw him the other day instead remember the simpler times when tiger king was good and you're getting your stimulus check. With you thought. That that show I don't know for me if it's an ignore if you've ignored this far keep ignoring. Yes, you probably haven't. But if you have still do, I, remember watching it took a turn for me like episode four where I'm watching it for the sheer like shock, and then episode four happens in the shock was just too much for my little heart and I was like I sat there and. And said I cannot watch this anymore and that's not me. I will I will finish I'm not a quitter and I, didn't quit ended up not quitting I had a moment took some time came back, but it was the animal harm and then the the man that shot himself in the gun, the gun violence like the gun shooting at all times the chaos of that I was like this is This is garbage but I watched it. The absurdity is the only thing that kept us, and then once you're out of the the bubble of this is ridiculous and you actually think through everything that happened and you're like, these are real people who literally eight food out of the back of a van. Leftover next. ME. And I don't know. The whole thing was really really sad. But that feels like seven years ago that that even came out. So. Mine my watch. This was also outer banks I loved it course I was into it. Ryan didn't care for it. He literally kept asking me what do you watch? What is this the save? This is a newer one. An Indian matchmaking. I. The only reason I say Save, this is probably the first four to five episodes you're invested because it's these people that you're following along with and they are. It's basically Sima. His a matchmaker. She's this matchmaker who is the world's leading matchmaker for Indian families and you choose between she comes in when you have chosen an arranged marriage. Instead of a love marriage is what they call it. So it's either you get married or you have a love marriage, they try to take the word arranged out of it, and so she gets called in. and. She basically has no joke. A file folder. It's not even like digitized. It is you see her flip through files and papers and she says there with her husband and he's like, Hey, what about this and she was like, no, she's five six shorter. Oh I'm telling you. It is fascinating to watch these younger people. They're usually in their like late twenties, early thirties, and they're like, Hey, what I've been doing, is it working? So I'm okay to try something brand new because what do I have to lose at this point and they actually a lot of them get matched and they're happy and they they enjoy it. But the whole culture is so fascinating to watch like they sit down with some of these couples who've been married thirty. Thirty and forty years, and they didn't me until the day they got married so crazy that they've been married this whole time and they just talk about why it worked and it was just it was fascinating that you probably don't WanNa, watch the entire season because honestly I lost interest. But the first four or five episodes save that, watch it when they when it's raining ignoring police nor sweet Magnolias, I don't care who you are and even know what that's about his doctorate. So I had everyone in my family. told me to watch it. I had random people on socials asking me if I'd watched it. No, I have not watched it. I've watched half an episode and it was dumb and I couldn't do it and it just it was trying to be too much like what's the Dolly Parton movie? That's also magnolias, steel steel magnolias. It was. Also. The floor is lava. Ryan. Got Real led to this show Riley. Left in. The kids watching it. They were. They had pillows out there jumping around the house. We'll see that's a good quarantine. It was a time that he was I thought. This is these are adults jumping onto walls trying to get. It was just embarrassing. Yeah. I. Need you half wars lava. What else are you pass on that? Pass on it? Hard. Kaley. What he got my best friend sent me this meme about this character in a movie or show, and she was like you are this person actually please don't be offended, but watch this, and so I started watching dead to me and I. I saw it on previews and it's Kinda girly like maybe you'd watch it, and so I was again into that. But she told me, it was me I should watch it started watching it. I'm not through it. So I would save it for later. I am Christina applegate. There is a point in that dern show which I post this on my instagram one day that she says, Oh, how do you grieve in Christina's as I have my ways and cuts to her in her car blasting metal music, and that is exactly that is grief. That's right. You just the way you process it. It is very well written. It was. Clever lever and the storyline was. I didn't even watch the full first episode or first season. I've not gotten far into the second season yet. Because again, it's kind of dark. It's dark, and I was already like the world is dark me right now. So I'm looking for like the up and out stuff where I'm like, happy. Light. But it is so well written and to your Christina applegate i. very much like in real life I'm the other one. I can't remember her name. Who's like, let me love you. Let me do things for you can use. That was the me sent to Kaley Christina applegate she. She's like just show up for her first grief meeting and she's like standing by the table coffee and you can tell she's trying to make the decision if she's staying or going, and her husband had just died her husband, just broad story, her husband was murdered. was hit by drive by and they just left and. So she's like at the screening trying to feelings, and this other girl just walks out and she's one of the main characters comes up two inches. Hey. Can I. Give you a hug. I'm Christina applegate looks are dead. The is no. It has lots of twists and turns and I like stuff like that. The sleep on this or ignore what is it the sleep on it? On this I don't pick a lot of shows I. Don't think I'm GonNa like a lot of risks I did start. So I. Loved Love Is Blind, which do we ever get to? That was earlier. It was great. I. Love That Show Ryan. Loved it. which was weird. But we got into it every moment of it S. so the circle, the circle. The TV. Show. Love Island like all pass on Levion. PESCI started dating around because I thought Oh. It's very similar since you liked don't though dating around. Don't. It's literally just one dude or one girl per episode, and he followed them on like four different dates in the same restaurant I tried that to. Go version of remember next. Yeah. Next. Next next was good. That when they're all on the bus they. Beck's version tender. It's a reality television version. They didn't even get to open their mouths sometimes, Josh is unreal. Estate if you off a bus and they literally. Next are met. Someone else will walk down, look at them and say, please say next Oh. Gosh. Who could I am I can't. Good show. Good. So there's some watch stuff. If you haven't already watched it and you need some things on the weekend, pass some time or like me, you just WanNa leave reality for about an hour or four a night. and. Those are some options also out of quarantine big news. We just got over the last few weeks. Taylor swift big. Once again, kept a secret nobody knew nothing. And all of a sudden, she drops an album out of nowhere and secrets. That's not even I've fully i. told you all this. I've fought like inequality. I can be. Yeah. Write a few songs. She wrote sixteen songs. Sixteen songs and music videos. I didn't know she the music videos to, yes. She released a Cardigan music video. The same time I haven't listened to me directed dinner own hair like all super quarantined up. Did the whole thing? Where did she shoot? In. Some woodsy. I. Mean I saw pictures. GLOR-. So wooded area. Role knows how to pick theme if you. have. Not listened to Kaley car if you listen to. Some through I'm going to let the the resident music What are you call? It prodigies? No. What's the word I'm looking? For you are. Here's the deal with Kayla. That's weird. Also with a little bit Carson to they listen to a song one time until you listen to this or you strategies. We are the prodigies. Isn't isn't prodigy like don't you have to. We have skill, don't deny it. I agree with that. But do you have to be sown? Hbo Prodigy Like Does It have the amount wearing? Almost thirty. In closing in on it, I'm round round, my age. We're not. This is not with us, episodes about. anyways, to swift who, I, I listened the album so far twice all the way through. It's only been out. It's maybe leaving out a week. Not House last. Week. So I usually. Who knows. But I did do a listen through once and I'm here for it. I'm not a big. Taylor Swift nation person I'm not, but I am here for everything that she does because she can keep secret. She. Can market the heck out of something. She can market something that she wrote during quarantine alone like she did that again, I love that she someone that I know posted that her mom Mama. Big Tease fans, and she posted a text from her mom that called the release of album because Taylor had tweeted something with eight emojis and this is the eighth album, and that's usually how she does. She'll do like seven things or how do to really dig into like what's real and what's getting the mind of Taylor, which is a labyrinth. Sure. Because she is brilliant. I don't care. She can be annoying fine drama. Drama. She is brilliant. You gotta give it to her. So this album, I. There was a mean maybe or something I saw that really ended up like Taylor was tired of seeing as all trying to go back out and live life. She wrote an album that US back into our homes with our blankets and our candles and and it's so accurate like it just makes you feel mellow and chill, and it makes you processes emotions and and these storylines of like maybe it's not the life you've live, but you can empathize with someone who's walk through that. It's just really story to the genius of it being called Folklore's. Folklore is. It's so good. I'm here for every single song I like. And I can't tell you all the lyrics from seven, but just the little things like this, the seven song on the album like. That stuff isn't like. It doesn't. Sink Up. You're like, yeah. Enjoyed it and listening to that while on a car drive, it's a great descent. Is a good road going on a drive like. Let's not think about what she wrote for? She wrote it in quarantine hearing. March, and April sitting at home. She would it for us in quarantine. We're not going out to party. We're not. We don't eat hype music we need. To lose yourself. Something, that distracts you, and that's what her genius is in is in, she has a pulse on people on what's going on in the world on what it is, and then she writes to that, and it is the most genius content marketing ever because she always gets it right. I mean I've I. Don't know any of her albums that have not done well, because she writes almost every single, even transcending. Transcending a different styles to it hasn't mattered. Each one's been successful whether people like, Oh, I prefer the nineteen, eighty, nine album or this or that you really like a more countries stuff on did. But like I like her stuff, that's a little bit more produced has like a little bit more like poppy or even like hip hop vibes like lover album almost like I'm here for it and I to. What artists has ever like hopped genres and styles as much as she has an recre-, and that was your success. We talked about Miss America. Connor isn't the name of her documentary. We talked about that last time. That was the whole point of that is like she is constantly changing who she is evolving growing to be what the people want, and she's Nalen it every time it's you're hearing stories and you're supposed to get caught up in the story and feel what's happening in the story, and it's not necessarily a sadness as it is like you're remembering something. Similar to it. You're just it's a, it's almost like look back at where you've been all of that stuff. Because what else do we have time to do right now and who doesn't love a good story? You can't really mess that up and there's a song. There's a song or two that resonates with everyone. That's either something you walked through. There's even if you really sixteen you like one of them. And there's one she wrote about believe it's epiphany that compares some war-torn story. So grandfather in a world war and then compares it to corona virus. Heroes on the front line talking about touch enhanced plastic. It's even that like if you can't pick anything else, you can listen to a song that's relating to the people that we have on the front lines in our hospitals. Just she's timely. She's so Dang timely, and that's what makes her successful as she feels, and that's for anyone who does anything. Anything. Yeah. In marketing and business in anything if you were trying to reach people if you can get a pulse on what they're feeling, you will reach them every single time you speak to that you reach them every single time and You said it right when you were talking about Taylor, at the beginning. But regardless of how you feel about her genre or what she does or her pass or anything else she is a genius lying and I use that word I don't use that. We, don't throw it out there prodigies. Mixed up I, felt the same way about Hamilton. Can I tell you almost forgot where we're gonNA talk about that? I, just got excited and I just watched it for the first time. Last night. Don't judge me. Well listen I, almost didn't watch it because I was like this will not anything that's hyped up a lot I. almost don't even want to give it time of day because it never meets the hype. And I'm always disappointed. But I was like, you know what? Again we had a free night because that's we have a lot of free nights. And I thought we'll. We'll just turn it on. Turn it, on, and, it. Lives up to it, it exceeds it to me because you whether or not you like Broadway whether or not you like hip hop, whatever it is so well done. It's just so genius, you cannot watch it and not appreciate the creativity took the brains to make I. Don't know how the man that wrote it, how he wrote two hours and forty minutes. Worth of song telling it like essentially, pretty pretty dawn's historically. Eight. is almost exactly anger I. Wish that my US history classes were all that that. About anything. It was just an incredible musical. Initially wrote at his goal was for it to just be like an album. He got the idea after he had just finished being polite. Listen. You're about to get a lot of facts. Research the snot out of this. No joke. Right. After we watched it, I spent two hours that night. Alexander Hamilton because I wanted to know what was true. Yeah, and what was it in almost all of it was true. The only thing that was put pressed into harder was his relationship with Angelica. But they did write back and forth a lot. They did. It was rumored that they had some sort of an affair or something. Cool with tear like constantly texting my brother with drugs. that. Like they never found any factual evidence that they had something on they just were. Oh, my Gosh I can. It makes me WANNA. Start singing right now, we listened to the. Rest of them. I could listen I. Love it. But he had just well just gotten off a Broadway play. He was in the airport. He was looking through biographies and he said he found Alexander Hamilton biography and it was either that or It was some businessman. He was gonna read about he couldn't pick which one and he just picked Alexander Hamilton and he said he was on a beach in Mexico and he had just gone through the part where there's a hurricane that hit the island that Alexander Hamilton grip on and he was like this is a hip hop album like This is meant to be it. So he googled has anyone like hip hop album, Alexander. Hamilton. Because he thought surely this has been done because he said his words I think the. Surely, this has been done I know. Well, he said. Of Hip hop you write your way out of. Your way out. Yes, and so that's what happened. When Alexander Hamilton was a teenager in the hurricane, hit his island. He wrote an article about it. It got posted somewhere in a newspaper in his town was like this is incredible riding teenager. So they collected money, sent him to New, York, for school. So he wrote his way out of his situation after his mama died, he went to this cousin, his cousin committed suicide, and he was living with like a clerk and learning how? How to be a clerk at the time. So lemon while googled it, and it said like he said, there was nothing and he thought this is what I'm going to do. Next I'm going to write boy did he said he wanted to go? But what I was saying he said I wanted it to be like an album that maybe they could use for education purposes like School School of rock or yeah. But what's the thing we all watch with the schools bill? Yes, schoolhouse. I'm just borough. Yeah. He thought maybe it'll be. It'll be something like that will create this and he said he just was not. Prepared for the level of fame that too. But he actually ended up I found this out from another podcast listen to. But he wrote into the contract for Hamilton that the writer of the biography that he read would get a million dollars a year of the proceeds. That's easy now for him. Yes. Yeah. He wrote it before before. Hey, mom. Sure. Disney plus because it's like on their on their. Young. Guy The author also came along beside him as he wrote it, and he said it kept us on us like every time I wanted to add fluff. He wouldn't let me awesome. It made him stick to the entire story. He performed the first song that he wrote. I think it was Alexander Hamilton at the white. House. It was when he had finished and he was still in his twenties like his mid twenties still working on it and uses lin-manuel. Yeah. Well, see right now. I don't know how old he is. Now he performed at the white. House. It was back in the early two thousand when he? saw. ME, still not like He performed it. For Barack Obama. Early in his presidency. Two, thousand eight, hundred. Yeah. It was pretty early on. Performed was. A. He was twenty nine years old. He performed it in two, thousand, nine. Okay. Sam Forty. He's just forty and the at one like an immediate standing ovation from the president and Michelle, all of them I'm on a first name basis with her. So, it makes sense but he. When he finished down. So many things just found them when I was looking at how old he was, but he you I will love this, but he listened to. Jay Z. Friend, or FOE ON A. Yeah over and over it just has. You can. It has. You just have the vibes of like even to thousands wrapping nannies rap, and just like love the on words that they have. Like I think, of Aaron, Burr like saying, you can trust a trust fund baby, you can trust. Trust Fund Baby. But like fun of trust. So it's like, oh my gosh, it's so great and every so Well, written and they in one interview they asked him. And Ryan made this point and I hadn't even noticed. Ron was like, Hey, do you notice that all the lead actors are people of Color? Do you think that was intentional? I. Said I guarantee was intentional and read, and he said that His quote was, this is a story about America then told by American now. and. We want to eliminate any distance. So our shirt, our story should look the way our country looks, and he said I found the best people to embody these parts and he said I think it's a powerful statement, but this is the best part he said that will be the note that goes with the school productions. This show ends up looking like the actual founding fathers than they messed it up right and so like he's thinking past this being on Broadway. Pass, how far this can go and shaping. Really cool the next generation and what they, what they look at, and we'll say the biggest I've only watched half because listen the commitment. We'll say the first half I liked better, it's worth watching finish I'll probably go I might watch the first half again this weekend. So I'm more of a I love musicals I like everyone kept telling me this is rally like this is right a alluvial of it. I just never got around to it, but I would love to see it live, and then they would resonate more with me. But my favorite surprise sweet moment George Washington's voice was like smooth oat milk. To me. Just listening to him like I could be doing other things, and as soon as he would start his parts, alls I, listen this man because his voice and they're not that they none of them were talent. They always super talented and their voices were so unique. His was probably favorite. Hands, down. Favorite. Character. Say I. Really I. Just like my favorite actor is the guy that plays is the guy that plays Thomas Jefferson and the French guy. Yeah. That's just my favorite actor. Was the second part and you'll love him even more. So He. Would he comes in the way he delivers those lines. Embodied that whole character. So. Yeah. That's that's probably my favorite character was just not actor. I. Think his name's Dovey something. The moments that I knew I was here for it. I wasn't quite sold yet and it might have been song three or four when Angelica and the girls came out. Here for it. Okay. This port like women work. I'm here this is the yes. The Fists Up, what's go? It was. So it was I didn't like indelicate I. I. was not a fan of her and then by the end she was probably her she was my favorite and I just I. Love. Lin-manuel. So much and I love that he probably wasn't the best person. Sure. Alexander. To play that role. But he said any other acting I have done always come in and I'm always like the best friend of the. Lead. And he said this time it was, I got to decide I'm playing the lead role. Yeah, and he should yeah, he's not he wasn't the best guy for it but. I, I loved him I, loved his swagger through it. I just loved him so much. It was great that there were so many other talented vendors things. Okay George. King George is my talks about like giving up power. He's like you can do that. After George Washington. When he came out when he came out and saying that I, Song God. He said, Lindwall said he wrote that on his honeymoon and he said he didn't have piano with him. It was inspired by the Beatles and it's completely set apart it just. Like any. Dishes like it's an obvious separation of what's happening everything about that was so smart. It was. So even just the fact that he's babbling key scatting because he's babbling because he's nothing to say like it's everything about it was so good. It had so in just want you to have a comparison in other. Broadway. Plays. So Homa has fifty nine words per minute. Pirates of PENZANCE has fifty words. Minute Phantom of the opera seventy, seven words per minute. Hamilton. Has One hundred and forty four were. A permanent. Because that's that's could keep my attention the whole time you had to pay for. No dialogue, he's going to ruin any other musical that I try to watch because I'll just compared to Hamilton and I just feel like it's not going to be as good. It's a whole nother ties musical in an article. They asked him. You know there's no art dialogue because usually there's talking. Song. Setting it up or whatever. But if you notice like the stage, barely even changes as that rotating thing. So you know things are continuing to move stairs come in and out. But otherwise stage pretty much stays the same other than it turns to brick from all would, and they said that was intentional to show like that history was moving forward but it. It said, it contained no dialogue and he did an interview and he said he worked with a playwright for a little bit. But he found that the spoken text didn't Meld with the hip hop that he was trying to do, and so he said that's when I had to figure out how to write all the scenes and still have a hip hop. And that's when he turned to listening to Jay z. and that friend or foe song, he apparently was supposed to perform it. Jay Z beyond, say showed up to one of the performances. To one time that whole year that lemon was sick and he wants to get to play. Alexander. Hamilton and he tried to rip the Ivy out of his arm to still go perform because they were there. I would have I know because there was such a huge asset in a chair done it because they were such a huge part of him developing it. Wanted to tear the IV out altogether and make it work. Just a sidebar like the soundtrack being right about two two and a half hours. I, guess if you're going on a short road trip to like Nashville or to like Nashville, obviously once stuff opens up all all those things would like. Perfect. I'll feel like I'm Marie watching the show as I'm driving. Didn't they do so it didn't artists do a Remake I. Mix tape. I listen to chance. Content. Context is I don't know that I could have listened to the soundtrack I'm glad you know without having seen it in the character. Yeah, exactly. It's so but with King? George. Ambience? Say I was looking for this because I knew he'd read it somewhere. She loved him King George. So she incorporated his funny walk into her own performances. Really. So she made it a part of what she did because she liked how he portrayed himself through that. So. So, she incorporated that into some of her own performances which I thought. This has had a bigger impact on our culture in our approach to things general, even like from all the way at the top I mean, if you see beyond say and showing up to watch them and then you have presidents showing up to watch all, I, mean, it's just well in the fact that now it's accessible. So the problem was it was a Broadway play. US, cheap person privilege. She person like we're not to go to New York to even even see secondhand like the fact that it's now available to watch industry mean format original because I have never seen their master. Twenty twenty, six, fifteen or sixteen. Yeah. You're out. I was college. But we're still talking about it. We're still going into the people. How genius it is. Thank you. Thank. You. Also pour while he's never gonNA stop it. But yeah, he's good to be done. He's he's reached the top forty. I was his wife was live tweeting it when it went. The weekend that Disney plus launched it, and I, happen to watch it that weekend and I was just growing through socials to see what you know you get. So interested in your. Yeah. People saying. She. said that when she would watch it in the theater every time, he would kiss someone else like. She would just boo. Loudly. Everyone, turn and look at. Who She? Why? If I didn't know she was. Doing this woman. which. I will say on a sad note, poor Elisa. But she do you know how old she lived to be? Yes. She lives like nine seven years longer than him. Into like a hundred and forty would rather. Broke, my heart I. couldn't. It's like you said I'll go back and watch the I, asked her son and husband both. Spoil Mel. Wow. Wow. It's history. Yeah. We knew it because of our school system. Thanks Linneman. Well, I didn't know this much about Alexander Hamilton. Shamed don't. The beginning. But that's cool. Well, and that's what Elisa said to the real ones. She was like her only goal was for history to remember him. because. He was so worried about his legacy and that that's why he wrote after he had the affair. On her he wrote papers that confessed all of it because he wanted to be in control of. About. Him. The second as so he wrote a whole. I. Remember what it was something papers I, remember what it's called, but the reynolds papers or something like that because the lady's name that he end with lesson was Reynolds. But he writes it all out and then like publishes it and barely even tells Elisa that he's going to do it. That everybody knows the business. It was so bad. It was. So she still like it was just that after losing all those people like she's still she's still wanted to do things for the rest of her life like. Founded an orphanage by Calgary's hundreds of kids so. It was the first one, I think or something. Getting private jet, but more than this. That's what I'm talking about. But even the decisions they made the choreography and everything was so super intentional. There was something that they talked about on an NPR interview and it was even down to the way that William Burr walked next to you how Alexander Hamilton walked, and it said that moves in straight lines because he sees no other options. Yeah. Only goes in a straight line whereas Hamilton walks in an arc because he sees all possibilities. And, they were like just the smallest of details. The intention -ality that they had are like I, really liked Aaron Burr I did. Every time that Alexander Hamilton talk to. It went back to the first song where he'd say Aaron Burr Sir. And then Aaron Burr's like you punch the BURSAR. Bursar, but I love because there's an album. By Jon bellion where he recalls everything. From the first song all the way to the last, and that's what the play did throughout the whole time. I'm just like my country young scrappy and like it just keeps going. All the way through and I did the entire. At the beginning, I'm the full who shot him is his first lines and it's almost like lin-manuel felt bad for him because his life was over after he killed Alexander Hamilton like he tried to travel he because I, want went into his history as well. He tried to keep going. He tried to travel. He lost everything. He. Honestly, they told him to go into hiding right after he shot Alexander Hamilton, and then he just could not come back from it and he kept trying and trying and trying he could not ever come back from it and it just like you see him play throughout the even the fact that choice that he's like the narrator He. He's the one who killed him, and even I don't know if you'll notice, you'd have to see the very end. But the bullet you know they made it like a dancer that moves. Is the Bulla that I read and I didn't notice this, but looking back I see it. So if you've watched it, one of the last scenes is the dual between Alexander Hamilton and Aaron, Burr, and which also why did that article say William Bor I just noticed that anyways, those his formal name could be but the bullet is dancer that goes from one. Gun. To the other and shoots Alexander Hamilton. But what happened was do you remember early on there was someone who? died as a spy during you'll be back. She's. Like he comes breaks her neck and she falls, yes. You remember that part like it's early on. But she apparently keeps coming up throughout the whole performance. Again Watch for her because she becomes a character known as the bullet who has essentially death personified. So the bullet for shadows, many of the shows deaths in your town, she shakes hands with John Lor. Ends who dies not long after. All Way. So she gets killed and then she shakes hands with him touches. Him Foreshadows his death, and then she flirts with Philip Hamilton who dies in the Dole Alexander Son who dies and they before she delivers the round. That was Hamilton. She has several interactions with him leading up to that last song. I would have never noticed that that it's all these details like you can keep watching a noticing. detail. So that's your deep dive on Hamilton. Just listen I. Know you've probably heard the hype. I know you probably are thinking, it's not going to be worth it. It's worth it at least. One of the things that I just thought was funny back to the history lesson was just that for the first couple of presidents that the runner up would be vice president. This is just so funny to me. Yeah. Jefferson was just like, yeah, I'm changing. Like? I'll be your vice president. He was like we're going to let. Does not, GONNA work we're not gonNA, do it, and even when Alexander Hamilton picked his enemies side I read like historically why he chose to do that he wrote in a letter that he chose that because he would rather have no a man and be for a man who knew what he was for. A man who never decides CI hugest constantly, Waffles back and forth. He said I would rather go with my enemy who actually is taking us in a direction. Then someone who won't make decisions. ooh, which that'll preach battle. It goes. It goes so so far. But that's our deep dive on Hamilton. If you haven't please watch it is. So his going forward to watch again and now for our parting words. In. True. You all are going to be prepared for it because you're GonNa Forget. This is how we part every single time. something. I know we're GONNA let. Me Just shook his head. But I know this has also been a huge season of learning for. So many of us like what we're about what we're not about all of it, we've had time to honestly organized through those emotions and thoughts so. Even. If it's not necessarily thing there, something that. You have learned in this season that either someone help you discover or that you figure it out on your own that you think would be helpful to somebody else. Is that to be serious. No light. Anything. that. Say, you have. A big. Royal Cereals I think the beginning of the beginning of quarantine whatever calling this pandemic. I had a moment, it's like I can't take anymore content I cannot podcast my way through this day whatever, and that's what I would do before all of this and it was just too much, and so I think is probably the last month or two I've finally been able to like okay. I can absorb some information i. can you know listen to a podcast? Do a couple webinars whatever, but I think part of that was exhaustion and grieving the loss of your plans and All of that. But then also part of that for me in this time of like an car made the point. If you WANNA do something, do it if you want to take the trip to Asia trip. So for me in my like work life, slash personal life. I feel like I'm called to do something I'm undo it and you know God's GonNa make the way for whatever that is, and like I'm trusting all those things. But what can I do within myself and my time and my resources to take steps toward what he's calling me to do rather than waiting for someone to say, here's the green light. Here's the runway. We don't have runways right now. We are just standing still. So what? What can I do in the standing still that doesn't rely on someone else to say, yeah, you can do that or yeah. I. See that like No. What has got ask community, and how can I just stay? Not Tomorrow not next week, just this day take a step towards that thing and that for me was really freeing because in the past I want the to do list I, want the next steps, the growth, the stairs. We don't get that right now. Super Series. No that's great. Minds kind of along that lines, but also kind of in line with getting back into absorbing more. More? PODCASTS more sermons. and. Just like it's really easy for me to want to schedule things out or be upset that things can't be scheduled out. But like making room for the things that aren't scheduled in just like taking time in a day to breathe, there are so many days ride. Don't do that where I don't just have like. A Walk of ten minutes where I'm silent like in where I'm just listening and I don't have an agenda of things that I'm asking God to her agenda of things that are just running through my head like forcing myself to slow down, and like I wish I could say I'm doing that daily, but I'm doing it more each week than I have the week before, but that's been so good for me just to take that time to slow down and just to really like. Okay like I'm just here. I. Don't have this agenda of things that I wanna get down just during this time I just WanNa listen and I just want to be you know and I, it's I. Don't know it's exhausting when I don't take the time to do that and I've just found how refreshing that is and how healthy that is for me so much we avoid it. Yeah, oh. Yeah. I'm really good at just keeping something going and even if it's not something bad, that's going. But I got the music going and I've got this on the background or I'm watching that. But I'm also doing this on my phone and this on my laptop. But just to step away from and I have to make myself do it a lot of time, but it's a discipline. It's always worth it. Yeah. And sometimes, those are like the greatest moments of growth to like when you are just sitting there. I have the most growing moments when I run without any music or without anything on I, have all the thoughts flow through my notes. APP is open and I'm trying to like type it while I run, and then it says the word that's probably really an appropriate. But I mean, it's just one of those things when you make the discipline to do it, it is honestly such a huge point of growth. When you actually just let yourself sit in something and think through what it means for you. Instead of letting someone else tell you what it means for you or looking for someone else to tell you what it means for you when you have to actually sit there and. Face your thoughts. It's tricky business. Excellence honest. Let's keep this going. Let's go all the way. December with this pandemic. We might be I take that back. I really don't want that to happen. I want everyone to be healthy and happy, and let's move on. But the mask industry is doing good. They are good. Well, well, that's your summer edition of did anyone tell you? We are back? We. It is weird southern, even summit the, but we're back for the fall or taken on a whole new season of no one. told me. There's a lot more around the corner. You might say, Kelly. What is. Into that I will tell you. The. Devils. Along for the ride. We will see you all next time. I love. Ending. Everett episode telling you how thankful I am for you that you take your time to listen to what we're trying to do here. So if you loved it or even if you have feedback I want to hear about it, you can either hop on over to itunes and leave us a review or you can just see on social media. Usually I'm on instagram the most if asked the E. 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EP 104 - DON'T TELL MOM THE BABYSITTER'S DEAD with Sara Hov

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EP 104 - DON'T TELL MOM THE BABYSITTER'S DEAD with Sara Hov

"Shutout by relevant change. You better go bags past bedtime. Should i love it. This show up by lovett. Obviously and i'm joe cabal obviously as well and who am i hear what. And i'm obviously sasha filer and this is sharp. I love it a podcast. When we invited special guests talk about something underrated under appreciated forgotten misunderstood hated hated hated despised reviled around. Let's bring up a source. We got a very special guest. Who is a comedy writer and recent transplant to us angeles by dacia managers. A team of writers at nerdwallet. Welcome sarah hav. Hey thank you. I'm glad to be here. Sarah i love your last name can you. I expand a little about your last name just for me what what's happening. Yeah absolutely so It's of norwegian. You know extract. I guess and it gets mispronounced all the time. Hove lots of hove. Slots sometimes hubs and The best part was when i started lifeguarding and high school. I later found out after. I became friends with some of the other lifeguards that my name was on the schedule and somebody said instead of hov lane like high occupancy vehicles high occupancy vagina. Wow i fully of being called come below cabello which of course you would come below the i mean. That's the more normal come right. Yeah and my and my stories about my last name are horrendous russian so nobody's gonna relate to save them for the russian version of this episode recorded for the russian showed up by russia. I had to explain by the way to my husband the other day that like say see in any wikipedia article brock obama right brooke obama. We pedia article we click on the russian version. It's not like a direct translation that he thought it was going to be from english. Its own article and some fact might be very different just saying he was surprised that some of them some of them are different. If i really like a movie or tv show. I like to click on the russian version. Even if it's like not even meet and russia. But i'm like but what are the russians like speculate about had no idea like the reception like you know and it's like for a movie reception psych. What you would think they wanna talk about the reception. Russia does true that's true. Yeah well i guess that explains it. But i mean like latter. That's the key sarah. We're here to talk about last names. Or what is it that top. No we are here to talk about. Don't tell mom babysitters dead nineteen ninety-one vehicle. That is highly underappreciated. So you just put it all together in one smith sentence. I really liked everybody. Was this smooth. Actually it's so smooth under appreciated is why you brought this on. Can you for those are the people who haven't seen this movie. What's it about yes. Well i think it's big claim to fame. Is that it stars christina applegate. Who was coming off of her tenure on married with children at the time and she is the eldest sibling of five and her mother. Their single mother goes to australia for the summer and hires a outrageous babysitter to watch them. The babysitter not spoiler. Because it's in the title yeah. Dies citing incident is the title of the movie. Yeah and then she has to figure out how to you know care basically for her family the whole rest of the summer basically grow up grow up immediately up to quickly yeah They all need to learn some lessons except for the mom. Apparently who makes nothing. We'll get into all that But sasha is this. Was this movie on your radar. I feel i know maybe it wouldn't be wouldn't be you know like the name like a new. The title of the movie. And i would always run. You know like just because i love christina applegate and like dead to me is one of the best shows of all time. Shout out to the neighbor who wrote on all seasons unbelievable she ama- shout out to you but seriously like dead to me. I love that show so much. And she's insanely good on our show and so literally even ruining my wikipedia articles from her and these russian and english. I was like do like. Don't tell mom that it sounds like an interesting movie but clicking on it i would discover that it's like It's not like and i'm like azure. Sounds like not something for me more about so i haven't seen it. You weren't gonna ride a robot chicken scratch about it. No that it wasn't a hop culture are no it wasn't it wasn't what about you joe. D did you see this one before. So this is a. It's one of those weird movies where i was five when it came out or something that or for So i'm pretty sure. I saw a few besson very. Yeah i could appreciate out. I didn't know what was pre prepubescent. Probably yeah there wasn't any better. Yeah so. I'm pretty sure. I watched it. You know like we rented an on vhs or something because it was always like a weird memory and maybe even from just seeing the vhs cover You know the hundreds of times. I would go to the video store as a kid. There was always those movies. You know where you're like. I feel like i saw that movie. Just because i read the back cover fucking and five hundred times. That's quirky for me. Like i've never seen mortiz i might as well So i was excited to watch it. Because i'd never seen it in a way that i remembered it for anything So no i. I would have said. Didn't really see it or not but it always felt like a classic and my mind interesting. So it's funny that you talk about renting the vhs. Because that's exactly what my brother and i did. We got that on a friday night from blockbuster and our parents did not really pay attention to us. And so we put the movie in and every time ever or just for the most part. Yeah and so we. We bought the movie and as soon as it ended. We just started it back over and we did that the whole weekend until it was due back on sunday night or monday and i think we got nine watches and and we know what your brother was watching while the thing is though i was ten and he would he would have been either nine or eight because he's only a year and a half younger so i think he probably was but i don't know i didn't ask him okay. And how could you not be best on young christina applegate vessel very vessel post all of those So so you've been a fan of this movie for since it came out issue no long pretty long time now. What was it that has have you watched it a lot. Is this like Every year you watch it or what level of fandom. Yeah a great question. i actually haven't watched it that much since then the nine times like got it into my brain. Yeah yeah and so. It's they're like several quotes that even just watching it the other day in preparation for speaking with you guys. I was like yup. It's still there. Yep didn't make that one up. Yup okay and then i also noticed some new things that i'm excited to get into that. I've noticed that with watching certain movies. That i really loved but i haven't watched them in forever. I'll watch them now. And then i'm like almost afraid i'm like oh shit so much of my personality. Is this movie. And i didn't even realize anymore because it's been so long forty of age. Formative god kids are so sensitive for a while right for while for party. Well my brother. My dad and my parents ended up getting divorced and so our story yet whole story. Our language was mostly made up of song quotes a movie and tv quote so when my brother my dad hang out a lot of it is not actual words coming up in our heads and that's certainly something to speak to someone about which is one of our episodes there i. I'm just saying that communication could be worked on slightly but it sounds also really lovely And i definitely have those movies with my sister where we just say that quote santa santa claus. Yeah the show. That movie will just say things from it to each other But i'm interested to hear on the rewatch. What were some things or how about an we get into the classic things you loved. I don't wanna know the new things yet discovered a kind of went the audience staff to wait for it. Well i think for a ten year old girl. One of the classic aspects of this movie was that it set in the fashion world now has devil where pradesh as one of the characters points out. It's in the bowels of the fashion industry in la. But you know christina. Applegate is putting together all these work outfits that were so time appropriate for all i knew you know and She's drying fashion drawings with this cool. Montage to drag in the line and It was it was very exciting. That i didn't expect this movie to be a workplace. I did not expect. That's exactly what it is. It's such a huge pivot. I'm sorry this is my biggest. Like i don't even know if it's a negative or positive point but it is like completely unexpected career comedy. It's so weird because they do get to the babysitter dying so quickly. And you're like okay. What's the hijinks they're going to get into and i was excluded any way it'd be go anyway. I thought they would actually go wild. Yeah and then real kind of like a blank check or something like that right now. It's like she instantly gets a job and then is just killing it. Which i love that john russo. That's i was really into it But i adored ending how they do bring it back of like i forget what she says. We got away with it. And then where's the babysitter. Because it's horrifying what they did. Yeah yeah so. How much do we care about spoilers. If at all. I think this podcast. If it's yeah unless it's like tv show alone. Try not to spoil it but other than that this movie. So old Y'all should pause this podcast. Watch the movie comeback and also gonna just say quickly before why since i have. I have my moment here to shine. It's very similar to a movie in nineteen eighty eight working girl in some way. Have you seen it working girl. Who's the star of that one. It's grab grab weaver arizona one but it is like a kind of like that even though it's not about that But he has all the elements of this movie. Well so the more we talk about this right now. I'm just realizing that it might. This might have some true family connections to me. Because i'm a another move. We watched all the time. Growing up was the secret of my success with s. O j just thinking as you brought it up. I was like yes. It's that movie. yeah so. I think we're my brother and i am sure we're probably just like us. It's kind of the same thing kid and even now when you weren't comfort watches you once things that are familiar as an especially. That's how i kids. Programming is intentionally so having that in a movie that's different but the same. Yeah okay but now we might watch ten of those movies around be like this is so wrote and so fucking forever. So we would. We don't worry about spoilers spoil away gopher it okay so you know joe is saying that what they do to the baby sitters awful so this baby sitter go well and also i wanna point out that you said you expected them to go wild especially in the rewatch. I think the point is that the kids are already wild. Like as the mom's getting ready to leave for the summer away in australia. The none of these kids are saying goodbye to her like. They're you know smoking or doing drugs. They're like up in a tree house and don't even want to come down. I don't. I don't even know where to go with all of this but yeah i was shocked in my ten year. Old self was shocked. Because i was very Good play by the rules. That type of thing and so anyway The second oldest child is a pot-smoking brother and the babysitter goes into his bedroom. And just seeing all the horrendous Now terror in there in the heart of darkness she basically ends up having a heart attack guys out on camera because the more exciting scene. I guess is the misdirect of christina applegate finding out that this would be serious debt. We know she's dead because we are told she's dead by the title of the movie. So why have a fond dying scene and then sure maybe christina applegate. Be confused for a second. But that's really extended scene of christina applegate just asking all slowly finding out that the babysitter is dead. What was the ten minutes in. Yeah ten maybe not even know and then they stuff her body in a trunk and drop it off funeral like i would expect and maybe it's it's unnecessary right. But like couldn't they have called the cops and then had like just given a fake number for the cops to reach their mom and like had christina applegate. Pretend did they have to do something. So heinous as ship. They probably had to break her legs and different. I'll just say that like they might have to cut her head off. Because she was discussed she was kind of. She was unlikely to fit into the box. Well i do think that shows a little bit come in really aggressive. As soon as the mom left she was super super mean to them And so. I think that's kind of getting back at her in a way but it is pretty fucked up. It's not really a complaint. Because i do think it's the movie sets us up to be silly like that like it. Well it doesn't -scribed on. Google search is described as frisky comedy. I was frisky. It's never heard of comedy being described as frisky. I cannot one hundred percent tell you that was a man who wrote that. And i was just thinking about christina applegate really i had nothing to do with. The plot is just like yeah. Isn't that movie. So frisky oh god up man was it was one of the characters gusts We love gut gus. I we jumping onto gospel. It is our getting their early. We'll wait for gusts as we will wait with save ause. Sarah seem like you can get control of this development of this. Well i did wanna point out that i had forgotten when i watched it the animated credits and i think that's like a key moment in time. That movies had these animated credits is basically like that. Ten year period between probably eighty eighty five ninety ninety. Yeah so this is right on. You're right in there. Yeah and so Yeah in the credits. It kind of shows that the babysitter is going to be awful so yet you guys are really keen when you get to these perception these perceptive moments of like why did they draw some of that out the the beginning. Yeah i mean a part of it is. We always wander joan. I like is it like as we're writers all here and this one we kind of know things coming like miles away. But i think this one even like a layperson would be like come on baby. Be serious that we're all know she's dead. Stop surprising us with the fact that she's dead because it's on the title although you who knows maybe the title was like summer hijinks at one point and then they the script we just don't everybody. The people involved all died in a horrific bus crash. Yeah according to russian with the pedia a week ago incidents message but those that animated sequence. Are there any other movies that you remember specifically that having sent enjoying them Better off dead has a weird one with like dancing hamburger and then trying to think what else. i just saw pink panther. Everyone know if i'm right or wrong and that's not eighties. Ruthless people ruthless people another eighty s movie. Yeah with judd. Only gosh no judge judge nelson judge reinhold reinhold on the new bachelorette who looks just like judge. Reinhold shout so look out for him. You'll note immediately when you see it Have you ever seen troop beverly hills. That one has a good animated. Yeah i don't remember the animated intro that maybe some hot pink. That's all i can on drip. Okay but i. I was definitely juice. Oh yeah beetlejuice. Probably even the same people that did it. All right yeah So yes so once. The babysitter is dropped off there. The kids are really excited. Because that's their way of not having to have their mom come back from australia. And they feel like they're truly in control of their summer. They drive the babysitters car back which is like this vintage car. That i don't know about car so i don't know what it was but it's pretty cool. Yeah good they get back to the Well even on the highway back to the house. They realize that the envelope of money that their mom had given the babysitter in cash. Because they need us. Nineteen ninety-one Is empty of cash. And so that sets everything off because just as jump forward yet did she. Steal the money while later we at the end we see that the funeral home workers like she had on her body and so they found it when they were you know taking off and they're grateful for it. Well it sounds like they blew it in vegas broke. People stay broke according to finance instagram speaking of finance. I don't even get into that. Because sarah knows a lot about finance and how to how to do we come rich. She told me. Send me a couple of emails about that so Before we will keep going. I just want to point out again christina. Applegate easing like to me. I think she's such a strong actress and she's exactly same like there's something very much same about her. She's dead to me. She's older dead to me but he's like the same acting the same presence. She's one of those people that manages to like look almost the same from like when she was a teenager to like however like fifty years old as she is now but she looks great. And it's very interesting like that. She just got to maintain her integrity as an actor. I don't know it's pretty great absolutely. There's one moment when Her boss her new boss. And now i'm jumping ahead here. But her new boss is looking at a resume and she goes. And you're a vassar girl. Christina applegate eyes widen and she tries to look at the paper because she had just like pulled everything on the resume from a book. And so that was yeah. No resume books so what happens afterwards so wants to the dead. This is when it's like sort could go whichever way in my mind. It could go anywhere they might just like rob. A bank have craziest party of all time. kill somebody else or do anything just anything like it just could be horror movie i would it could be. It could be anything instead. It becomes s a career. Woman's success so christina applegate quickly gets a job while don skip over the the clown dog job. Oh because that's a key point which is basically mcdonald's right but also with the truck but we kits year its way. uh we. We're there there like the music blaring of the truck. Everywhere they got describes. What is the it's like. They're dressed like a fifties diner and they're serving nasty looking Chili dogs to people and the guy who runs it is just ingredient. Happy like way too. Happy like one of the characters. Yeah the characters joseph. He's on helium or something and or he just read dianetics. Which i appreciate it. Joe making fun of scientology see. I didn't get that joke. Even the other day i didn't know i haven't been here long enough. Oh yeah spent here. That's good if you don't know about dianetics or anything then you're actually you've lived a better life than a lot of people they're gonna come for us you know. So they so yes. Oh she's in this job for like one night Trying to serve this fast food. She's wearing a hair net and at the end of the night. She's scrubbing at the sink. Keeps slopping all this greasy water all over herself but this is how she meets her. The love interest of the show on played by josh charles. Shut up and she is. She's scrubbing like at one point. You know he says this isn't your dream job. And here's one of the key quotes that has been integral to have family communication for thirty years. He's she goes. what do you mean. I didn't wake up this morning to scrub that basson work with raw meat. And yeah that quote anytime we do anything we don't like we say i love to scrub fat batson work with raw meat. Yeah writing there. Yeah really fun. Then i do think like everything is so tight the fact that She meet him. It's nothing but then that becomes integral to them getting picked up. And then he's the brother of the receptionist enemy like at all is no wasted piece. And i always love to see that. Yeah it's a bit of a overnight. It's pain since the fact that he happens to be the brother of the tag but we love but we love because whenever whenever there's a guy incidents that makes things harder for the protagonist ula. Yeah sure i'll take. It's when it makes things easier for them as we don't like yeah. Yeah so what happens. She she gets this job and by pissing off force this receptionist and she's going after receptionist job right What is it like a fashion company so she quits the yes she quits the corn dog job and then has to get another job in. She's we get. The classic scene of circling job. Wanted ads in red marker. I feel like that showed up all the time. No one knows what that is now. Agenda watches that. They have no idea what she thinks. She's doing adult coloring book. Yeah and then she completely copies or resume from resume book and then we see her putting together This crazy outfit from her mom's eighties work wardrobe and she goes into the office to and the the resume yes keells. She's wobbling in the heels young which those forms and so then yes she hands. She tries to hand the resume over to this receptionist and the receptionist hates her as soon as the elevator. Doors open and tells her to go down to personal now and Socks look like she is while very you know. There's no reason. Why should we talk to anybody like that. But somebody who doesn't speak any english and deaf and doesn't want to listen to her like just trying to deliver this person now offensively obnoxious so well played and very pretty lady right that lady. It's like a aggressive pretty. She spent a few years in the military and why not about. I think she had a role on one of the police. Shows like nypd. Blue or something like that. Yeah fuck culture. Well no. I just watch this movie. And then they were all seared into my brain. Can't not see them even when you close your eyes. Yeah my brain doesn't it doesn't get any sears. It just it. Just it. Just slaps and then like a comes back to the same shape. It was there's no sear- it's just like a slap and then finding little imprint and the just fixes itself or fading phasing so there's immediately this lady immediately becomes antagonised. she hates. she hates christina. Applegate right off. The bat bergerson applegate gets hired right away. Yeah when the bigger job and this is one of those What you're talking about sasha where we don't too easy but it's too easy to puerto rican tribal. Yes we forget what we're we forgive her. Yeah we forgive the movie. We forgive everybody we price so it's funny though because she does get the job because her her very soon to be boss comes out and says where's caroline there and you know the receptionist linke hair or something like that and then christina applegate scherzer says looks like she's chewing or face and then it's true love and her new boss just like i need you and this is true. It's exactly that's the moment. The boss falls for her and she just wants her to have her is her executive. Assistant gives us the office. And oh my god imagine that a computer the she must learn how to operate and know how to operate computers. Yeah people only older people know how to do that. Crazy the ship the shift. Yeah and she tonic. Shift if i me she's also supposed to Like review people's petty cash paid like she pays people out of the petty cash becomes a plot point as well. She gets so much that she to do. Yeah give them driver's license like she did her passport or driver's license. Nothing they have nothing untoward. They're going to pay this money to. We don't know that's never gets explained because we wouldn't have it would have made a riveting seen. I can tell you scanning of her driver's license. Which bush should never gave the driver's license in my head cannon. She bought a fake one with petty cash. And it's a deleted guess. Sometimes they get too caught up in logistics but but it's nineteen ninety-one movie and nobody needs to know how that happened. How they hired her. And how are they gonna pay her this money. Thirty seven thousand five hundred dollars a year which is crazy money. Now that's like eighty to a hundred and twenty thousand a year right. Is that how you how to. What's to number. It's like seven years of human. Life is a dog's life when you're donald saturday show. I'm just. I'm just doing an educated guess here either way it's insane for or she's not nineteen she's seventeen for these hundred thousand right for our time. Yeah so she gets his job and then the jobs become like Being like a working mother right. Yeah there's a lot of like sue. This is weird. The brother and her just kind of that. Mapping of being a mock helpful mapping at times guts weird. Yeah yeah. But i have to say i think the brother the actor who played the brother did a great job in his role to like he. He liked changes over the course of the movie from the stone or guy to like a culinary quickly with maestro five minutes but yeah the changes kind of at one yeah he makes waffles and then that's it yeah it is it is good He is like secondary character. Who has a goal and finishes it Unlike again we'll get to the mom. The mom is nothing like why housing on the british nickel the brother and sister. So what happens. Just in case. People haven't seen the movie. There's a lot of scenes of them off. Basically senate applegate coming home being exhausted off to work and him like having cooked day or whatever like looked after the children which is their siblings and them. Having exactly mapping the conversation of how a cliche husband and wife with talk a wife that staying at home and a husband is working too late and so blaming each other. Do you know any quotes so i rely on your memory. Yeah i worked on that castro all day she did you burn something in. He goes well. If you'd come home on time. I wouldn't have or something but It gets a little sexual in that sense. Just 'cause we can't help but think well is it sexual or is it actually back in nineteen ninety when the film's being made supposed to be a sly turning of the tables of you know there. I think it was trying to be progressive. I think it was but the fact that they're brother and sisters was weird. That's weird share. It's like you. You expected at one point for him to say like you. Don't even touch me anymore. I actually haven't thought that. But why did i met all last night. He's going to affect your rating. So i do have to say though that what what we're kind of like just to put a label on it. This seems like it's going to be a kid's show right. It seems like it's a it's got children in it. The main characters still technically child and then actually by turning into this workplace comedy. It's really for adults and a lot of the jokes are things that kids aren't going to get and i remember having to ask my dad like several different things that they say like. What are they talking about like. What's what behind the ears mean. Just stuff like that and so it's fascinating looking back that like i don't know how they marketed it because it's not what it claims to be. Yeah which is a classic problem for a lot of movies that are brought into shut up. I love it little umbrella. The we sitting all under this umbrella of shut up. I love it. Love a movie called the little umbrella. Anyone up shut up. I love and and the movies keep coming in like the people coming holding their movies like like a loaf of bread. That's how i imagine it and all these movies are not clear whoop home. Was this loaf of bread. Baked for yeah. It seems like a hijazi movie that you'd see the kids like oh now we're gonna like hide the babysitter from the people and do this But then now it's at then. God's tries to reassure her and david duchovny for some company is just literally. No reason for him to never does anything. But he's like the bad other bad guy for the pretty aggressive Cop lady talk enough worse for her. Natasha you just comes out of nowhere fairly does anything but gusts is incredible. Not i don't abide by him. But as a character he was just really pushes the envelope he really like decides that he can act as big as he'd like to and what's sad about that you know the whole like i was kidding and still real the fact that like that hasn't stopped. This movie is one of the many time capsules that prove that even in nineteen ninety one it was so obnoxious. They were making fun of it in movies. Neon guys are still doing it so depressed. It's making fun of it but it's also sad but it's it's also ridiculous that it's in the kids movie like he's really coming. So basically it's the lauber of christina applegate's boss who also works there. But i don't know if he is an equal work wise Well so what. I heard in this rewatch is that she's like the she's c. Suite level like head of the whole today operations. Yeah and then he's a vp. So so he's under. Yeah yeah so. That's why he's worth. Yeah yes. He is dating her. She seems to be into him like romantically passionate about him. The boss lady. But he's starts quickly calming onto gruesome applegate And just like being super way people smarmy. Yeah shit yeah yeah. But he's acting is insane. This guy i mean he just he just he just really embraces. The i'm gonna play. fucking sleazeball. Like an his character does not scare or know that people can see that he's being yes Yeah and we did. Skip over one. Small thing that i want to call out and i meant to bring a prop with me because i actually recently got a key chain with this phrase on it which is one of the another phrase for my family but clearly resonated enough that accompany made a key chain of it forgot to bring that but basically the go. You're gonna guess bernard just fucked that you forgot to bring it. Oh sorry. I didn't. I thought you're just starting to say something like you're gonna guess the freeze jobs every sentence with folks just bring a little bit like it's echo in my boss. I feel like the boss projects this warmth toward her like even though it's so unbelievable that She gets hired that easily. No one checks anything and all that stuff. This is warning the blood rush. Well the buses that women the buses the buses rose. There's so many bosses rose. She has so much warm for her. Yeah and she'll watch warm she is. She gives her a lot of tips. That still hold up. I would say in the working world which is Well like she talks about how you need to have a plan of attack and wine and dine people and get the figures and all that kind of stuff. It so i know. Those aren't very specific. But the one thing she tells christina applegate that she always has to do is say if if her boss named rose ever is on a caller in a meeting and asks christina applegate. A question christina applegate is supposed to say. I'm right on top of that rose and she says no matter what it is very important. You can get by a lot a lot if you just say it keychain the key chain. I'm right on top of that. Rose the question. Is this christina. Applegate ever says that in the movie she does there is a time she has. She uses it and she's i well then one and then she tries to use it later in the climax scene and then her bosses like no no no not now i would need a real answer so i thought that was a nice touch dude. I've missed out on some stuff. Did you watch it nine times in a row sitting I did have a really nice Three three point arc of it That part but Yeah i I forget even even the phrases have on arcs in its arc. I'd say actually A lot yeah. I mean the rape guy doesn't change but like yeah he to feeding over. Nate does work doesn't have other. He was a ghost. He was a victim of his shows. Up out of nowhere like kind of like almost like too late. He shows up in the movie. Right david the company yeah. I'm like we were still meeting. Pref- pre x-files fang. Right prepubertal son. He already had some pews I would say if i had to put my money on it and then he disappears also into nowhere. Like there's there's he's been there like to learn a lesson. I don't he just came in. Ford day is a bad guy. I mean the bad guy does need to learn lessons. Why was he in the script. The like sarah said the boers to them. Tasha of So they can talk to each other needed it because the receptionist has to sit at reception. I don't know like she can't go sneaking into the office you think. That's was his breakthrough role. Mum you got because christina applegate Apparently that was her like double for her to stop being noticed thrill. Yeah like like like oh. She's not just like kelly. he is kelly from this. Tv show that she was kind of acting. I dunno completely acting like a bimbo. Yeah i wasn't gonna say bimbo. But i guess we can still say she was a plane carrying. I mean at the time that was literally house really scratch. And in fact i think i actually read an interview with her. She talked about it. Yeah how doubles literally imposing hearts. Yeah that character. And so i think that was the first Chance that she had you know to kind of show her chops and she frigging does anyway. Yeah yeah i don't. I don't condone the use of the word bimbo current circumstances. I'm just identity usually geico. Thank you for your time. It out it was more just me stumbling against the walls and trying to find a different word for bamboo. The sunken sound. Like i have to explain anything but we did use the word both of us and we explained the we don't what about him though. Less once the male lead. Like i've heard that yeah. I use that but i guess by the by doing that i will. I'd rather use the boys better right for a hembo. You have to be a strong and both really nice and also really stupid and same thing with a bamboo. You need to have the technical head plus lot well and nice. You have to be nice if you're if you're not nice bimbo your else. This toco the superstar still. We're not gonna himbas and bimbos as terms. Sorry thought this is where we pivoting where people being back. I'm sorry we're running out and out again and again. So meanwhile the romance between christina applegate and the boy in the truck the clown dog truck longo chop who loves the job and taking i think he he just like rebels in it I don't think because it accepts it. Yeah like i don't think because of what it is. I just think he's the type of person that if he's going to do anything he's gonna just love it. Yeah but i think that's why they're not gonna last. She's a rise up and He he's a stasis he's going to las man imigran pan come to america just a little pivot pivoting out. Usually women quickly adapt like learn language. Star going up the ladder usually and the man just sits in his own these off his own stasis drowning your stasis kink dropping his aac room and thinks because that's all we talk about all this s words. Yeah so where we do. We need to go through the whole thing. What am important things. We have to hit here In terms of this well she she does start embezzling the petty cash to pay for food for her family and then she has gotten paid because the paycheck comes two weeks later. Yeah and she also didn't know anything about taxes at the time you know i believe it. Yeah so i just feel like you guys might not catch this but like those are important lesson to learn at age ten. Well like first of all your paychecks not gonna come right away. There's going to be a lot of taxes taken out. That's you're gonna work with assholes. Who dislike you for no reason. Yeah are very dangerous for different reasons. Masculinity right there even if your boss loves you it's still not going to protect you from potentially falling under the euro own ineptitude. She's supposed to do this. Facts and the facts like eats her paper and then she's also supposed to do this big report and she has to get this other woman to do. It was great. She was in all the nineteen eighties. One mazing i think she wasn't like one of the main people. Probably i'm guessing in working girl and if not those was dolly parton so i'm sorry give me but but seriously like she for her role is just to do the report. In the yummy. Yeah and then. She brings with jello mold to the party. Yeah somebody who should have got like throwing gel model mouldering there. Yeah right. it's almost like putting up with a gun on the wall. And then we're using checkoff on paul checkup. He didn't have a agreed jello recipe. But yet that is cool to see those lessons. Which i'm sure would be impactful if you've watched it nine times in a row and i'm doing a lot of educational entertainment writing right now. So we want to have these lessons in there but it still has to be fun and funny and all that so fun to see you now all these years later after i sing and be like no. That was something that i clocked. Yeah well i also think that goes back to it really being a show for adults though because what is the actual joke by the end i think by the time they're having that scene in the kitchen. The joke is for adults to be like us. See these kids. Think it's all fun and games being adult but actually it's like that's i don't know i'm this rewatch i feel like that's kind of the true takeaway like they when you when you are growing up at least in suburban middle class life that i grew up in like you do think like as soon as i'm an adult can do whatever i want and i can stay up and eat whatever and spend all the money and like doesn't actually work that way. No we're learning as we speak is still don't really know. Jill does whatever the fuck he wants. I am a hedonist. She's pleasure help me. That's why you pending your dog all the time because it just feels good in town so so then of course it will builds to this party because what nineteen ninety-one movie without party scene in it right so huge party. That happens to be in their house. Because it's a way personnel. Gidget way to save some money and not to pay back the cash. Exactly yeah the sitter house and of course. She forces her siblings to do this. Amazing work on the house. Yeah the house turnaround is just so. Is this awesome that my fiance said we are halfway through the movie watching it and she was like i. That house is really bothering me. I thought this would be dirty. Yeah she's like. I thought this would be a makeover movie house like well now has their own ideal this movie. The babysitter died now. They're gonna like they're not going to clean it up to. The babysitter died But i was like no. They will have him. They will clean the house. I can guarantee they will. And then so as it started to happen. Her is lit up and she looks at me. She was like hey the makeover and she loved this part so well. Yeah i've seen applegate. Where's this gorgeous dress into the final party. They've cleaned up the whole house. They've hits cleaning. The i mean the eight th gold. It's a me thing and then she's her. Friends are all back from their trip to europe and they serve as the models for these uniforms the running man and all this stuff. It's just amazing. What a production rally huge production. That party like jesus would a big party huge party. I mean Petty cash box. It was so the money get spammed by her siblings by the scale at from her purse. So how do they. How do they renovate the whole house. Basically there's some makeover. Yes but one of the kids like like eleven year old buys a diamond ring for girlfriend. Just it's just a chip chip assume that wasn't a name back then but yes doesn't even realize it l. Yeah sorry. Can i do one of the other phrases that we skipped way over. Yeah so they cleaned up the house and everything She tells kenny her her paw head brother to do the dishes before she gets home and so his way of doing the dishes is to use them like Clay pigeons in shoot them with a bb gun off the roof. And so there you know. He's like shooting them all and breaking them and then he goes. The dishes are man. Oh so the only does pretty great line and this is a dunk because they're ruined but that's the only line that my husband friend of the show has room has remember. It says the movie because he side when he was little and he was. I just remember on the room. Just shooting shotgun dishes and say this is a man. Yeah of course would be about his life. He was like because he was like. I don't know eleven or twelve times. A he probably that was like the movie heat saw for sure multiple she puberty besson and i mean everybody probably had been bessant everybody crush on back then. Probably i'm guessing because she was like a plana hot lady slash bimbo and the tv show for years before so meanwhile the badly the cop lady who's the also not a cop but she's a receptionist she finds out with the help of david comet. Obviously hello inspire is for just. Yeah so they find out that christina applegate is under age seventeen years old but the boss when presented with the driver license copy doesn't believe it she thinks it's she's thinks they shaked it. Yeah but but how does she christina. Applegate gets completely like truth revealed while so at this party where they've done the fashion show of the uniforms and all the buyers are there especially the buyer from saks. I think it's called out Kazaks clearly buys lots of uniform so The they're doing the fashion show out in the backyard by the pool. And then all of a sudden we hear clown clown dog music and here comes here. Comes brian the boyfriend. Had they've had a break up because he thought that her secretiveness meant she was cheating on him and she couldn't tell them the truth because secure his sister. The awful receptionist because of a crazy coincidence that was insane. Yeah and so. Basically he comes driving up in with the music blasting and over the What do you call that. Yeah megaphone Yeah his intercom or something. Yes system just shouting out into the night that he misses her loves her at first easily saying how bad he's been feeling anyway so you know everybody is starting to hear this on top. Of what how she's been trying to. Mc this fashion show and they're starting to realise. Something's not right here right too. Yeah and then he pulls up and she manages to still even save this because she swings the spotlight to him and says. And here's young. Brian in our six. Yeah yeah and then Worst possible thing happens. Her brother goes look behind. You and the mom is their character of mom in safari gear. Because she was in australia. There's nothing believable about that. By the way she's still wearing it like she got on the So yeah you know. She says sue ellen young lady. You've got a lot of explaining to do or something. Like name is swelled but sue. Ellen is the same name as well as well as short. I think that's her nickname right. Yeah so mom was here and for some reason that is worse than anything. That could possibly happen right. Yeah was here mama's gonna over it's over and that's when rose the boss comes up to sue ellen is like what the hell is happening and soon says i'm right on top of that rose and the boss is like not this time and christina. Applegate has to admit to everybody that she's just a child. Yeah it's pretty. It's amazingly acted and it's pretty humbling are actually you know she does this. It turns into a very serious movie for a moment where she does this. Real scene of admitting at this microphone in with the spotlight on her to all these buyers and important executives that she's only seventeen. She doesn't know what she's doing I can't remember if she says this but like she hasn't even decided if she signing up for classes at city college in the fall. Yeah so it's it's pretty touching so then mom and the daughter have their one on one and mom discovers that her daughter as fucking grown up over the summer question. Mark two weeks question mark because she got paid at least once. I'm going by right timelines very fluid. Yeah yeah and with direct deposit and stuff maybe it would take another two weeks who knows these things. And how long was it before she even got the job. Maybe it was another week. Nobody knows so. Mom seized her daughter. Her little girl is a grown woman. While she doesn't seem to care the mom does not seem impress whatsoever about the party are about all the people there and it's not until she gets inside and sees that kenny is now clean cut and making Making canape is a good for nothing. That's when she really starts lock her daughter. Like you had an on your brother and she starts to look around the house and like And christina applegate tells her mom to just go up to bed and it's like the complete raw oversell. The reversal is there. And and mom fakih. He'd sit up and it's nice up nice and wraps up quickly. You know doesn't overstay until the mom says but where's the baby sitter and then there's a little bit of a zoom right. Isn't there like a little bit of a christina applegate space. Then we go to black. Well i did. If we're talking about technical stuff for a second. I did notice on this rewatch that there are all kinds of unnecessary camera angles throughout the movie. And like lots of fully effects that heightened the the moments interesting because again my husband shutout fan of the show passing by so this movie said wow such bad directing and he kept walking and i was like i didn't feel like it was that bad but it's interesting that you well. There were just several moments. I think where they had the camera like underneath the when they're looking they're tearing apart the babysitters room looking for money. And i think at one point the cameras from the angle of the drawer as she's like pulling close out of the drawer and stuff like that goal film school angle like a film. Yeah yeah anytime you make a film like a. It's like a remember making my thesis film like in film school. It's like you you have to have at least one shot from inside like refrigerator. Such big fucking shot dude. Just tell the fucking story on. Then they did a lot of like the were the camera. Kinda stutters in. I haven't been to film school. So i don't know the names for these shots but am i film. School was basically tv school. But i like to see film school. Because i was like i'm fancier A few a few last things. You can edited out or chemo. Whatever you want At the beginning in this rewatch the mom says some one of the kids says. Why are you going to australia. And she says because. I've in my thirty seven years. This is the first time. I'm having a break. What mom's supposed to be thirty seven. Sorry mom looks a bit old. Says it was nineteen ninety-one things were just let the rough life yeah on. Tv show alone. She had to live under the blazing sun. That lady looks a little older than thirty seven and even though there's not a the moments where the babysitter is with them is are very short. There are several key lines that came out of that. For instance the kid who watches tv all the time she turns off the tv and goes tv. Your brains and then then also. When they're finally all the kids get together and finally decide till like overthrow her. And this is when christina applegate goes and finds her dead in her room the daughter who's like tomboy says and then she made his get up at the crack of dawn and i think that one has made its way into the lexicon now. I don't know if this is the first ever instance. First time i ever ever heard crack of dawn. But i like that. That's one of those things that just. Oh it just exists. Where did it come from. Yeah that we didn't know probably. I think it's possible from this movie. We think maybe. I realized that character by the way the little girl. She's she's a tough one because she's stressed me out so much when i was just like. Oh gosh she's crazy crazy fun. So did you cover all the points you wanted to cover. Oh well also when they lose the really cool classic car. It's because these drag queens are stealing their car out of the chucky cheese parking lot and also like. I don't know like if you scared. Just like who spend some time with them. They might have had a scene in the. Maybe i don't know but they that's why they can't call the cops forgetting their car. Still because what are they she says. What are we going to say. Liza minelli stole our car right. One of them is dresses Liza minelli very very much lies in manila. Look really yeah pretty great off. Or that's a that's able. Yeah we don't we don't but we do know is that we're about to go into the best part of joe what is it. It is the rating system. So we're going to rate this movie on a scale of zero to tan and using a thing as a reference point now since this is a movie you could use another movie or you could use bananas like. Hey bananas are ten. I love bananas. This movie's a to did. Enjoy anything you wanna do. Whatever you want and guess what we're going to go first so you'll have some time. The mother forget. Talk about mother. Because i feel like we haven't covered the mother. The what the mother. I mean the your feelings about the mother wanna here that oh no just. She had a lot to learn. She did not raise her kids right now she. They learned on their own through other circumstances. How i wanna see that reflected in the rate. But i'll go first. Yes let's say thinking about this movie it's a classic from time. Let's say bill and ted's excellent adventure same director so let's say that movie is a nine. I like that movie a classic. I'm gonna say this movie is a tan applegate. I could watch it all day. I did not see that coming. And i'm so happy common. Joe you gotta. You played like a lukewarm. Yeah misdirect style. Yeah that's how. I go but now this was very fun movie. It's my type of movie. I love movies from this era With this type of energy. So i i really did. Enjoy watching it. I'll go next. I'm gonna take the working girl just because for some reason it's so similar not similar but it's also so similar the working girl the movie the joe has never seen and i give it working girl like a six. Maybe it's it's i. Watch it twice for some research reasons but i was like. Yeah like i love dolly parton. And i love her in this movie and i thought it was cool but like i don't know kinda boring to me. It was just like office stuff but the this movie. Don't tell mom babysitters dead will probably be an eight eight. So because i really like. I mean i. I like the kid stuff in it mixed with the office. Somehow the john remix works. It's weird but it works and christina fucking applegate just like she just elevates everything but like to one point five points at least for scale. That's how you know that this is an amazing actor. When they can elevate shut up. I love a rating system by one point five. Yeah yeah so eight. Sarah well i guess. I'll use the secret of my success with michael j. fox as my skill and You know it's tricky. Because i think i have to put that movie. Add a ten for me just how it. The role it played is beloved movie in general. Yes not so much so yeah and then with this one. I'm actually gonna have to say compared to that. This is a nine and the reason is that i loved this movie. I give it major props for turning some of the tropes on their head but at the same time it just doesn't quite use the the music to the best advantage I did enjoy the songs. But yeah i i'm the one bringing the show to the podcast and i absolutely love this movie. But it's not like secret of my success is the type of thing where would have to watch it if it just happened to be on. Tv all of that's not how anyone even watches tv anymore. No but don't tell mom the babysitter's said. I was fine with those nine times. And then maybe seeing it like once in the heart of you. Now here's yeah. Yeah acid onto the future generations of little. Sarah's yeah Don't tell mama. Babysitters dead by the way is thirty. Six percent rotten tomatoes. And i just wanna say like both of you were like. Oh yes she. Beloved movies sticking to my success. Fifty percent rotten. Tomatoes doesn't look like too many tomatoes for me. Not if i run. Tomatoes isn't anything. But i'm obsessed with it. It's not the best system of in the seventies and eighties of the ones that are like most. Anyway you well. You can't really even use this system for some older movies. Yeah reviews were so. There weren't a lotta reviews. There's no audience review score. Really what do i know. My whole thing is collapsing. Yeah well that's incredible so we got eight nine ten. I mean what a perfect little rating the system works. The system was assumed that nobody understands. Yeah maybe if. That kenny actor were as hot for a guy as christine Tabular as christina eight is marijuana meant. I was waiting for christine aguilera. And finally she yeah popular. Maybe maybe that would have given it. But yeah i i do love this movie. Really great the brother. The stone baloney Well this was great. Sarah thank you so much for coming out. Should upper love it. Would you tell us in the audience where we can find you on the internet's oh yes. Presence tiny. It's like just the shadow of a presence. 'cause i mostly lurk but I am on twitter at saratov. Jovi and i am on instagram at in. This one's a little tricky. Alright suma tara. S u m a t a r a. And what does that mean. Oh my gosh don't ask it's separate episode for shut up. I love it amazing Joe was going on in your life. Check it out because issue. Three of bottoms liquor is actually out. It's my comedy series. Go check it out. And i think you can right now. All three issues digitally through three dollars a year late to the series. Go check it out. And i'll have paperback copies out sin and also like joe's writing this crazy novel Give me the name. No virus hero virus. Whoa what what a great novel. He's spitting out chapters like weekly or like twice go and It's cool. Because like i was one of the patriots really requested that as a as a choice of what content would. I like to get some very pleased with the result. So yeah so you all my comics if you subscribe to my page around you actually get bottoms up and all the comics so yeah so you can dictate the future of joe's writing output goals. Well thank you. Elizabeth salutes for the artwork. Thank you mister owl for this track and thank you for listening line.

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Avengers: Endgame Discussion

Stinger TV and Movie Podcast

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Avengers: Endgame Discussion

"Faye? Drik calls it a huge opportunity wasted Shannon thinks it's the closure. We all needed. You might be sick of hearing about vendors and game. But that's what we're talking about this week on stinger. In a world where your friends and co workers don't understand your movie or TV obsession obsession where you just want. Someone anyone to share your binge-watching addiction watching it, Shannon. And failure are here for you. Your wait is over stinger starts now. Now. Hey, everyone, I'm Shannon. And I'm baiter out. Welcome to stinger TV and movie podcast. It's been awhile since Shannon, and I have been together. S? I had vacation you add vacation. And it was actually a great opportunity for us to talk about things that wouldn't make sense for us to talk about together. I talked about kids shows from the nineteen seventies with my sister. Yeah. Which I was so surprised. I'm like what did I do in the seventies? Because I really did not watch hardly any of those. I knew that. I just I knew that would not be your topic. Yeah. Yeah. And likewise you pick. A topic that? Told not me. Yes. I was very excited to have Jeff in Jennifer from pot of thrones to talk about game of thrones with me because we totally geeked out last week. If you guys missed it check it out. That's a great podcast name. Yes. Pot of thrones out one. What are they gonna do when the show's over because this is the last season, right? I know. Well, there's, you know, of course, prequels spinoffs talk of things like that. So I feel like there's always something to talk about Iraq. Where there's where there's popularity there's always more money to be made. So somebody will be doing something with game of thrones. I think so. Yeah, I had a bunch of friends that are like oh sorry. We want to talk about game of thrones through a video chat. And I'm like don't be sorry. I said it's kind of a bear saying that, you know. I'm an entertainment podcast or and I don't watch these shows that everybody is talking about. And then as usual, I will probably eventually start watching it. And they'd be like, hey, everybody who wants to talk about it. And they'll be like, no, we're over that. I don't know. I think people will always want to talk about it that good. It's well we are on it this week. If this is your first time joining us. We talk about a lot of different things because we have really varied interests. Sometimes it's TV shows. Sometimes it's movies. Sometimes it's Netflix original. Sometimes it's network stuff. But the one thing that Shannon, and I do have in common is we do kind of like geeky things. Don't we? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. We're both huge fans of the marvel cinematic universe. Not like die hard, you know, down to every last detail. But I feel like we can carry our own in conversation. Don't. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're not comic book level geeks. Right. As far as the MC you race. And I realize it because when I talked to some of my friends, they're like, yeah, we're still trying to watch a few of the movies for we go. See it. I'm like, what do you mean? How all my God. Be so mad. They're like. Yeah. I went to C N game. I haven't seen like I saw like a couple of the other. I'm like what how can you not know every single boop? Like, it's like pieces hustle pieces of a puzzle. But before we get into that. So that's our stinger topic of the week, and we will get into that very shortly. So that's what you're here for stay tuned. But what we thought we would do is start the way we start every podcast, which is just talking about generally what we're watching. Yeah. We have a lot to catch up on because as you just said we haven't talked in a few weeks, and there's a few things I've seen that. I really want to talk to you about. Okay. The first is afterlife. Now, I mentioned this last week on the podcast for those of you that are regular listeners. Thank you for being regular listeners. I love this show. You think you had said to me that if I didn't like it. You didn't think you could be my friend. Correct. So safe are still friends. Okay. Good. I really enjoyed it. If this is your first time listening or hearing about this show. It is a Netflix original starring Ricky surveys. I believe he wrote directed. He did the whole shebang, right? It's about a guy whose wife dies from cancer. And how he deals with it. And and it's really funny. It's it is. It's funny and said it takes you through all the emotions, and it's a quick watch. I think maybe like six half hour episodes, but very. I might say unique. You know, I love shows that can put a different spin on something, you know, and just the way he took this dark topic and made it kind of funny, but still really gut wrenching at times was awesome. It was like super poignant and the ass people that love him. And I love him. And I've experienced this to his he has a very unique style of comedy. And he either has something that's kind of funny or just knocks it out of the park. So if you're worried about which one this is this one knocks it out of the park. Totally. Yeah. I agree. I agree. The other thing I want to mention that. I watched is into the spider verse, which I if I'm correctly, remembering you kind of name, this is like one of your favorite movies of all last year, or it was nice tie. My number two pick for twenty eighteen right behind Infinity war. Okay. Yes. For best of the. Year, and you hadn't seen it before. No, okay. I just saw. So I'm saw it on the airplane when we were travelling I'm sorry. But I can't I agree with you there. I did not. I did not like it. I didn't like it. All right. You know, when you tell me that you watched it on the airplane was it on your phone. No. It was on the seat back entertainment. The rare flight that still has the seat back. I I feel like this. I mean, I'm sorry. You didn't like it. I you might be the only one, but I just feel like this is the kind of movie that you needed to see in the theater, maybe maybe my son didn't love it either. But I am I am excited about the prospect of of where they may be going with this. If you haven't heard I believe they cast I don't know who but a young man to play the title character in a live action series on Disney plus streaming so they're possibly going to start a series of. About the spider man, multi. So that doesn't excite me. Because one of the things I loved about that movie was the style the comic book style in just see. That's what I didn't. Like when I first saw the preview for it last year. I both my son. And I really now I'm not really into like animated, whatever. And I just I absolutely loved it. And he loved it too. So we're going to have to disagree on that one. And I think this goes back to we had a recent conversation about how I don't really love animation. I think that that is a big thing for me. I think unless it's the more like the Pixar type of animation other animated shows. I'm generally not a big fan of. I think that's something. I'm learning about interesting. I mean, I get it. Sometimes if something's animated I'm not super excited about it. But if it's if it's got a really cool style too. I just really liked the style there. That's it. Gonna say it. I liked it. I get it. All right. Well. Let's talk about some current stuff. Some okay that those those are kind of a little bit old, but the two of the very popular items on Netflix right now. If you're looking for something to watch dead to me have you started watching this? Everyone's talking about it in our Facebook group. I know everyone's talking about it. So I'm kind of like, okay. I guess I gotta watch it. You will like it. I liked you will like it. I watched the first episode. Okay. And I will say when it first started. I watched the trailer. And then when it first started. Oh, so real quick. It's I'll let you give the synopsis. Okay. Yeah. It starts Christina Applegate. And some of the girl that I don't remember Cartolini. Okay. There you go. And it is about a woman, Christina, Christina Applegate, plays a woman whose husband was killed by a hit and run driver. And then she goes to a grief group and befriends this odd woman played by Linda, and they just. They have this kind of weird relationship and the she the other girl. Oh, I've tried to remember their names Janet and Judy Judy. Right. So Linda plays the character, Judy. She's the kind of odd one she has some secrets and she lies a little bit. And then their friends again. And then you find out all kinds of crazy stuff. So that is just the basics and ops. It's it's a very surprising twisty complicated show. I think so when I first saw the trailer, and I watched the first episode at the beginning. I was like, oh, okay. These women are caricatures. You know, Christina Applegate plays the cut-throat real estate agent bitch of a trophy wife. But that's not at all not at least by the end. I get the sense that okay? There is going to be some depth to the scare at definitely definitely. And it's it's it's funny. But it's also suspenseful and. Man. I'm only on the fourth. I finished the fourth episode, and there's already been like three twists that. I completely didn't expect where I was like what can you can can. I just say this. I'm surprised the Christina Applegate is a pretty good actress, she is she has she's not on my radar. I mean, she was in what married with children when she like young. And that's kind of like what I always see what else does she done? I can't even really she did like some babysitter movie. Don't tell mom. The babysitter something like that. I don't know a bunch of forgettable movies, right? She's forgetful. Yeah. Yeah. But she's good in this. Okay. I'm enjoying it. Yeah. The other thing I'm watching is extremely wicked not watching watched two movie, extremely wicked checking the evil and vile. That is the Ted Bundy story the bio pic on Netflix now with Zac Efron, who we all know, I love and worship. And even as a serial killer of would love to marry. Oh, my God, even more. I mean, he played the whole story of Ted Bundy was how he was so incredibly charming. He was women women went to his trial and like gang Golding giggled over him and flirted with him even though he was potentially a serial killer. I mean that Zach Ephron played that just amazingly he was so good. I've heard some reviews people have said the story is a bit thin. I don't really agree with it with that. Well, it's not a documentary. It's entertainment and the way they it's actually from the point of view of his girlfriend. So they do it. They move around in time a little bit. They show very different points of view. It's unique. It's unique. And I really think it's it's it was excellent. I enjoyed it. A lot. Okay. I'm gonna get check it out. I think you definitely should I definitely ship. And then I'm talking forever. But the last two things I watch I just have to get to get serious for a minute here. I watched green book. Oh, the Academy Award winning the of twenty eighteen and and black klansman guide. You. Did you see either of these? I saw black klansman. Okay. Now, I watched these movies pretty close to each other. And all I want to say is that I am the most Whitebread sheltered person on the face of the earth. I felt after I watch these movies. I listen literally crying and being like how can people treat each other like that? How did these things happen? And my husband's looking at me. And he's like what like you didn't know this. He's like, what's what's the matter with you? He's like this is still happening in a lot of places. This happened for hundreds of years. It's happening all over the world. There's discriminate. Hello, there's racism, and it's not like it was a surprise to me. Of course, I'm aware of these things. But it just these two movies shook me to to the point where I said my God, I have so little experience with any of this stuff in life that it's hard. It makes me cry to think that one human being could be that mean to another one. Well, and I do think racism has definitely changed over the years because these are set back green book is green book sixties it was fit. Yeah. Fifties or sixties fifties sixties. So I mean, we were still back then where it was like you couldn't drink out of the same water fountain. It was just. Yeah. You were a lesser human being. And while there are still people that I think hold those racist viewpoints. I think back then what's so shocking. Is that it was socially, and culturally acceptable. Right. A treat people like that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And this in black clansmen were the dirty cop stops them. And he's like feeling the girl up the black girl. And you know, they're just it's it makes me wanna puke, you know, and I'm I'm just what did you think of? Ms movies. Okay. As movies a lot Bosa green book was boring, and I mean. I would never say it was boring. I thought it was interesting. I thought it was a good movie above all the acting in that movie was superb. Okay. The two actors in that movie were amazing Vigo Mortenson. And I don't remember the guy that plays. It's a I think he's got a name that's tough to pronounce e-eh. He plays the pianist. But I'd anyway one in Academy Award, probably probably I mean, they were both incredible. The the story itself is it's you know, it's a story. I mean, I think it's meant to be a slow kinda deep moving story. So it's there's really not much action action. There's maybe one scene, but I I definitely enjoyed it. I don't know. You know? I honestly, I think black Landsman probably should have won the Academy Award over green book seeing really I do. I do. I liked black klansman better. I liked them both. But I liked by clansman better. Okay. Yep. Well, speaking of Academy Award winning films. I actually watched this was a couple of weeks ago. But we never had a chance to talk about it. I watched darkest hour, which was the Winston Churchill movie starring Gary Oldman. Oh, I think Gary Oldman won an Academy Award for this. Okay. And normally I'm not a huge Gary Oldman fan in normally I'm not like, yes, I wanna watch that Winston Churchill movie. It was it. It's not like the most exciting movie in the world. But it's it's kind of like, I know you love Dunkirk, and that whole it basically is kind of like a book end to the battle of Dunkirk and told from Winston Churchill's point of view, and what he did to basically save England in the war because they were at risk of losing their entire army. And so it was really well done. It was, but you know, felt like you were watching felt like you're in history class. But it was it was good. It was going. Okay. I also watched eighth grade which I know you talked about a while ago that movie, and it was one of those that if I sat down and said does anyone want to watch this movie? It would never get picked in my. So I just turned it on. And if anybody wanted to watch it, so my twelve year old ended up watching it with me, and I thought. This is probably okay. And he was looking at his phone like, I'm not really gonna watch it. But I know he was watching most of it which was fine until there was the whole scene about her figuring out what a blowjob. And I also like. But speaking of awkward that whole movie was awkward and just oh my gosh. Did she win anything because she was amazing? She wasn't using. I think she's going to have a bright future. I don't know that she won anything. No. Oh my gosh. Oh, I don't think that movie got half the claim it should have. It was just a I think the topic was just a little bit too niche for it to win awards. Gosh, I just I felt like I was reliving middle school. Yeah. And I watch all much. I know I am. I I have a teenage daughter exactly that age when we watched it. And she was I mean there were moments. She was crying. She left the movie, and she said, it was all spot on for everything. Girl, her age feels. Yes, it was so well done and yet I still feel like you kind of got a happy ending. And I just I really liked it. I thought it was as happy as you can be in eighth grade. I know I know I thought it was really really good. And then I actually went to the movies last. Night. And so a preview of new bio pic called toll keen, which oh, I always thought it was pronounced token. This is the the story about the author of Lord of the rings J are token, apparently pronounces it token so see now I have a third pronunciation use. You thought it was toll key n and its toll keen, I think I always pronounced it. Toll key token toll kind token, I think I have pronounced at Tolkien. Well, they actually make it a point to talk about the pronunciation during station. Okay. I haven't done a review yet. I'm going to write a review it's interesting because this is not the normal type of movie, I would review and not the one I'm normally asked to review I actually asked if I could go and review it, and I think there were like some serious hardcore critics there because I heard them coming out giving a little bit of their opinion. And there were like, well, I mean, it kind of glossed over blah. Blah. And I said I thought it was a beautiful movie. I loved it. So anyway, that's my quick spoiler. I am going to talk about it in more detail. But okay, cool. I really enjoyed it. Now, I think I'm gonna do a Lord of the rings marathon this weekend. Oh, wow. That's that's like a marathon merits double marathon. If I know right. 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We had awesome. That's right. We have this one which we do every other week. And then we also have a podcast called Ozarks dirty laundry where we cover. Netflix original Ozark. We are on hold right now because we're anxiously awaiting season three and we also do the homecoming initiative, which is the Julia Roberts show that is on prime video. Anxiously awaiting season two, and then we also do every other Friday black mirror Friday where we dive deep. That's actually one of my favorite podcasts where we dive deep into an episode of black mirror, and we're playing catch up on the first four seasons while we are anxiously awaiting season five, that's right. That is everything we are doing. Now, don't it's it's time for a stinger topic of the week where we are going to have a spoiler filled discussion all about avengers and game. Where do we want to start? You know, I think failure. And I don't have a real outline plan. Right. We don't have a real plan for this conversation. I think we just need to wing it and talk about. Well, we thought I mean, I'm gonna just start and say what I thought overall. Okay. I thought that this was the movie that everybody wanted to see there was a good amount of fancy service, which is fine. I have nothing against fancier because I don't say that in a bad way. A lot of people are go was phone service. Stupa cameos. That's what you want. Come on. Everybody wants to have that feel good stuff. And I think it was fine. I don't think it was the movie it could have been I think that. It was a little bit boring. Some of the time. But the acting was great, and I didn't have any problem with what they did with any of the characters except one captain marvel I had a problem with but the rest of them a lot of people are complaining about and I didn't have a problem with with that at all. So overall, how about your feelings feature where to begin? Well, I had you know, I I said that Infinity war was my favorite movie of last year. And I went in just ready. We've been talking about this or months in my household. Just the anticipation was so great that I went in I sat down and like with Infinity war. I was riveted from the very first moment. And I'm sitting there watching it going. I'm not feeling it yet. It's going to get better. Right. And. I mean, okay. It opened with Hawkeye who we did not see in Infinity war, and we see him with his family and his family disappears in an instant. And that was such a powerful opening. And I was like, yes, I am here for this. This is because you've got to kind of remind people this is where we are. You have to put them back into that emotional state of mind, and I did a very good job of that. And then it went downhill from there. So this movie was really three different acts the first one was you know, the five years. What's happened since the snap? And then it was all right. Let's try and get let's try and undo it all and then there's the final battle. And I thought the first half of the movie was really boring really slow. And I thought the middle part of the movie. Yes, there was definitely some fan service there. But I thought it was very hastily and sloppily done. And finally the final battle while it did give me some closure. And there were some things about it that I liked I left going that was it. That's how that's how you're ending it. So I wrote an entire post called what I didn't like about an game. And there were a lot of people that I think it really resonated with. Yeah. I saw a lot of a lot of agreement with you online. Yes. Yes. And I mean, we can go into some of the details. But I'll just tell you that for. For me. I came out of that movie. I was a little disappointed overall in the movie, and it took me a couple of days to realize like the entire next day. I was depressed. And I don't I don't know if it's because it was like there was so much build up, and this was the culmination, and it was finally over or if part of it was because Tony stark died, and even though I was okay. I thought that was an appropriate ending still was like a gut punch to know that he's gone. So yeah, I this movie did things to me. Interesting. Yeah. I guess I I don't know some movies make me very emotional. But like I'm just talking about how I'm crying during black klansman. But I didn't even come close to people were like sobbing in this movie. I didn't even come close to crying in this movie. I was and game. I wasn't sobbing. But I think I got teary when when Tony stark died. Oh, wait, the one time. I teared up. I did tear up a tiny bit when Spiderman reunited with iron, man, you and your Spiderman I know I love him. I love him. And it it. It didn't help that. My daughter was next to me like crying hysterically because she she's though, right? She is she she's a crier, and she worships Spiderman like loves Tom Holland to death. Right. So that I think that might have played into my emotions a little bit there. But. I I didn't feel like it was a gut punch expected if Iran didn't die. I would have been pissed like he it was it was clear he had to die. I thought they handled him and cap at the end beautifully. But you know, what let's take it part by part 'cause you broke down the three acts. Let's take it part by part. Let's do it that way. Okay. So we start with the beginning. Okay. You know, you've got the remaining avengers coming together with captain marvel. This was pretty much immediately after it happened. Okay. We know Nick fury contacted captain marvel on the magic beeper and she comes. And so they're like, all right. We're just gonna go find him and they go find him. And they find out that he destroyed the stones. And then they kill him. Now that was that was way too easy. Okay. Was way too easy for them to just kill him. But you know, it's been after I thought about it a little more. He was apparently very weakened by destroying the stones. He said it almost killed him to destroy the stones. So perhaps maybe that was why it was easier to kill him. But I just thought it was way too simple. After everything they went through in Infinity war for them to just say up. There is he's on this planet, and we're gonna go smashes head in with Thors hammer done. Well, I think the whole point of that was that to show that killing Thanos doesn't change anything. That that there was this revenge component. But it didn't. Okay. They found him they killed him. But I, but I think the big part was that the Infinity stones were gone, right? Right. And so I've gotta talk for a second. I'm going to jump ahead because we're just gonna have to be all over the place. It's just how we're going to have to do this. Yep. Yep. All right. So one of the things that that I learned a couple of weeks ago that I never really caught this is where I wanted the movie to go. All right. So Thanos in Infinity war was a bad guy. But he wasn't really a villain. Do. You know what I mean? Like, I his goal wasn't like, I'm evil. I want power his going on judges. You know, I how ever twisted his motives worm. He wanted to make the world better. He right. No. He wanted to make the universe better. He wanted to bring balance to the us. Universe. And he did it. And he felt like he was at peace now. I guess traditionally he's considered a pretty bad ass warrior, right? And what we saw was a shadow. He basically wanted to retire and become a farmer, but there's something that was said in one of the guardians of the galaxy movies about Comoran, we know an Infinity war we see him going to Morris home planet and killing her mother and killing half of her people and taking Maura to live with him. And he basically raises her but in guardians of the galaxy. They mention that Amora is the last of her kind. Okay. So wiping out half of her population didn't necessarily cause them to flourish. So what I was hoping to stay wars. Pickup was a way for them to have fan OSE realize that his snap. Did not accomplish what he wanted it to accomplish. So I don't know how they would have created a story around that. I didn't want them to just kill him in undo everything. I wanted there to be some sort of like. I don't know some realization. Well, he he kind of does get that in the end once he sees. I mean, it's it's the past version of himself, but he sees the future through nebulous memories. And he does realize that it didn't really work. And that's then he wanted to just destroy everything not just half. So he does kind of see it. We're we're going to have to talk about that. Because there was a commenter on our website that brought up a really good point. Well, I'll just I'll just talk about it now. So I had someone comment on on our website. And I felt they brought up a really good point. And after I read this. I'm like yet. I think that's exactly what what bothered me they said Infinity war, we were shown Thanos, and he was written to be sympathetic, or at least a character that we the audience could understand would you agree with that? Yes. I mean, maybe not sympathetic but empathetic like we saw that he cared for his daughter. He he believed in what he was doing. Right. Didn't make what he was doing. Right. But he believed in it and that made him more of a well rounded character. But in endgame that version is dispatched quickly, and we are supplied with what we guess is like a twenty fourteen version of Thanos who isn't the character. We know. But is basically just a token, bad guy, and their point is that why go to the effort of creating that character in Infinity ward to just suddenly kill him off at the beginning. Yeah. So I think a lot of people the fact that they could make them knows this big bad evil. Mad titan. A character that we had some even just a hint of empathy for that was brilliant writing and directing right? Yeah. And in in this we're like, no, he's dead. And now now we've just got to deal with this big bad guy. See I still. I mostly agree with that. But I still feel like the fan knows. We got. Had a little bit of that in him. You know, like he was still the person that. Had his own quote, unquote. Good intentions when we see him in the past the whatever version of him. And then once he realizes what happens he kind of goes off the rails a little bit. But still. I don't know. I feel like we don't completely lose that character that I I felt like we character. He did that was one of my issues. Okay. Okay. And also since we're talking about the beginning of the movie. I I'm glad to see that. I am not alone in this. I really did not like how they made a mockery of Thor. Oh, well, I I'm the complete opposite. And I think I appear to be in the minority reading social media because a lot of people do not like the I loved it for I wrote in my review the door was my favorite part of the movie. I don't know. What's about me? But I thought he was hysterical. I loved you know, like you've talked in the beginning about how it was. It was really about revenge and four had to go and he killed him. And then he realized it was, you know, honestly now that we're laying it all out. It was honestly like a almost like a fan os development in his character. Because he realized that didn't do any good at didn't make him feel any better. There's nothing he can do any falls into a depression. Right. And it provided a lot of comic relief. And I loved it. I loved it. I just thought it was a joke that was carried on way too long. Yeah. But he couldn't have just magically if he got magically buff. Again, would that have made you happy because that would have been stupid. I mean. No not magically buff. But I mean, he was sloppy. He was drinking. He was it. Just I felt like there was no real moment of redemption for Thor in this movie. And I just he's even even when he saw his mom, and and and at the end when he said, you know, you have to be the person that I forget the line. But there was a line. You don't you don't need to be the person that you're host to be to be the person that you are. Right. That was great. I mean, I did love the scene with his mother. But it was just like, and then, you know, it'd be this really poignant scene and in the next moment. They're making a joke about his appearance, and it just it didn't work for me. Okay. It worked for me. I liked it a lot. I liked it a lot and I didn't split it. We're we're talking about a mockery. And you would also mentioned ant man that you weren't happy with the way he was treated, but I feel like I never liked the character of Ammon at all like I feel like he's been a mockery since the first movie. And that's just how he is. How he's always been. So that didn't bother me either. Well, it's not a mockery because with Thor. We know this character, and they yes, okay. I felt like they took away from that. With ant man in the first movie, he's a bit of a goofball. Which is fine. I think that's part of the character. But what I didn't like about ant man in the wasp. And what I didn't like about this movie. Either is they make him out just to be a buffoon. He's just an idiot. Like, oh, where's the flux capacitor for time travel? I mean, I I was like come on. He's not feel like I just feel like he's always been that character, and I never liked it. But so I don't know that this is anything different insistent. I know. I feel like in the first movie that's not who he was. And again, he was just there to be the butt of jokes. And it was just it was a little too contrite for me. I just I like my humor served up, you know, with a little more complexity. Sorry. And that was the only thing I didn't like is that the mood shift was so dramatic, right? Like, it was like I like one of my favorite parts of the movie. I mean, I'm a huge Robert Downey junior fan anyway. And I thought this was an amazing performance throughout the whole movie doubt. I mean, I I like his character. I like his acting he's darker character. And he's kind of you know, snarky in. That's just how he is. Maybe that's why I like him so much and like like Hawkeye kind of went down this dark dangerous path. I liked what they did with black widow. I liked how they they showed. How this this five years was affecting everybody in a different way. And then it was like an hour going to laugh and be goofy. And I get that they needed comic relief. I just don't think they blended the styles. Very well. Yeah. I agree with that. Totally. I thought that it was a very weird shift. I. One of the problems. I have with the beginning. The first third of the movie, it was it was boring and depressing, and I don't necessarily agree that the world would have been so apocalyptic looking like I just feel like five years later, you know, half the population still here. Yes, it's sad. It, you know. Yes. Things may have fallen into a little bit of disrepair. But you know, it was like Walking Dead there, man. It was just too much. And I agree that I think five years later people wanna pull themselves up by the freaking panties, and you know, moved on a little bit while I could say the same thing about the Walking Dead. But so. But I mean, if you think about I mean, I get your point. But you know, try to think about it like that way. I just have to I have to interject I got I got gotta rebut that because the Walking Dead has a continual threat of walkers all the time. I mean, these guys every you know, half the people on earth died, but then there's nothing else threatening them. So I just feel like on the Walking Dead. There's there's there's a point at which you could you could have created an impenetrable compound. I know they tried and it was always acidly penetrated. But we digress. Yes. I mean think think about if you look around the community you live in I live in a community. And if all of a sudden half of the homes were just vacant. I still think five years later that things would have been a little bit better than they were depicted. That's all let's say here's a little bit better. Hopefully, we won't see I right. But you won't see when that happens. Really sorry. Wait. Okay. And then they then they then they get the gang back together. Yeah. Yeah. And this is my middle of the movie was my favorite part. I really I can't stress enough. How much I loved the piecing in of the old movies when they time traveled back and interacted with the first vendors movie was just thrilling for me. I was like damn this is so I thought it was so well done loved it. I thought it was okay. A some parts were really good. I have to admit my favorite part was captain America in the elevator hail hydra. That was oh that was that was really funny. But but I'm one of those people where like, okay, they have the tesseract. Oh, and then who opens the door somebody opens the door, and it falls out of his hand and LOKI grabs it, I'm like, no. I hate it. When things don't go. According to plan. I was so excited by that. I'm like, yes. Go LOKI up. Well, and then I'm one of those people that I try not to do this. But I'm like, okay. But if that happened wouldn't that have altered the course of a vents here. Well, now, you know, hulk explain that to us honk explain that to us, and I've tried to argue this people online and people get upset Hoke. Explain I know the alternate timelines time. Yes, time doesn't work the way. We've always been led to believe in from like Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. Yeah. It's actually the paper delays, and you know, that's actually Bill and Ted was one of the one of the more realistic ones. But that like back to the future was what I meant to say, it doesn't work like back to the future where you're gonna disappear as a result of an action. Interacting with yourself in the past your future self is not going to disappear. Okay. There are like like you said there's alternate timelines the doctor Strange's woman there, whatever with the the. Yes, she. She she beautifully explained that, you know, showing the time stream and all that. So there is no, you know, LOKI is going to move on in that time line taking the tesseract, and he's gonna have a whole different thing happening. And I I hope that's where they're going to take the series on Disney plus with him. That's why I hope they're gonna take it. That would be amazing. I'm still not convinced that that this all works. I mean here here's the thing. Time travel's while theoretical anyway. So we can make it, however we want, but there are some timelines that are linear, you know, if you are jumping ahead in your same time line. And then you're going back to that same point in time, you're affecting that particular time line. So I felt like if I didn't have a serious issue with this. It was just kind of like this nagging in the back of my mind like, and we'll have to talk about the ending with captain. America as well. Because that was that was the only big part of the time line that really didn't sit right with me the rest of it is kind of like, all right? I'm willing to just accept this at face value. So that we can move the stores show word. I mean, I watched the flash for God's sakes. If I if I can deal with those time paradoxes than yeah. I can I can handle this. So there so they go they go to get the stones. And I agree with you that the scene with professor hulk who I'm still not sure how I feel about him. Professor hulk in the ancient one was a very good scene. And then we have black widow and Hawkeye going to get the soul stone. And yeah, that was really well done though, I loved the both of them wanted to make the sacrifice. But in the end, I knew it had to be Natasha. I knew it had to be. Yeah. Me too. And I wasn't too broken up about that. Like, I'm not really emotionally invested in either of those characters, you know, I I kind of sat there watching that. And I'm like, I know it's probably going to be her. But either one I'm I'm fine. Like, I'm like, okay. Like that was a scene that I talked to someone about this might have been my son. But I was like I wish it had been to other characters that meant more to me. You know, like, why don't they tailor the movie to me? I don't know. But you know, once we talked it out like you start talking out. I'm like, I don't know who else it could have been like there's no other logical. Well, it had it had to be people that had a relationship with each with each other like if you had sent nebula and who did she go with a war machine? Right. Nebula war-machine. I'd be like your robot bitch and push her off the edge. You know? I don't think there would have been that know, me know me. Right. But I you know, I thought I thought Jeremy Renner looked really hot in this movie. So I'm just going to say that. So I'm kinda I'm kinda you're like all right. So I just I thought that too much Hawkeye in this movie. I just was not into that at. Well. If reasons I just said, I was fine fine with that. And the only problem is they came back in there like worsens tasha and then o- other than they move on. And I know they had to but. Yeah. No, no. That's like that's fine. They have to they can't show everything you have to use your imagination this. I've been saying about game of thrones recently because people are like, oh, it's moving so fast. They're not showing this conversation that showing this person's reaction. Okay. They got you got to move on to shoes, you're mentioning they can't imagine. Right. Right. It Sarah get over it. Right. I loved some of this. I gotta go back to some of the scenes where they were time travelling because Iran man, talking to his dad. Oh, that was a really good scene. I will admit yes. Yes. So good, and then captain fighting cap, and he's like, I could do this all day. And he's like, I know. I never really liked that see I'm. I I know all right. I thought it was great. Okay. What else then then they then they're then they're back. Right. I guess. Yeah. They're back, and they succeeded and they think everything's good. We have we have a mole in the room. Of course, LA nebula. Yeah. And then the movie kind of kicks in here really big role in this movie. She did. Yeah. Did. I'm surprised. Okay. So this is this is where this is where it goes all DC on me. Okay. Because again, I'm the kind of person that I'm like, yes it worked. And then in there, like not really, you know, you know, the you hear the birds chirping they're like, hey, guys. I think it worked. And then all of the sudden Thanos appears and blessed the shit out of avengers headquarters and how how they all survived that. Well, that's yes. That was crazy. But really let's step back for one second. Did you actually have a problem with Thanos coming back because otherwise it would just put them in too easy? I was like thank God. There's some kind of twist here. I mean, it's fine. It's fine. I just like happy endings. So why can't be like we got the stones and everyone's alive and everything's restored. Yay. No. That would have that would really upset. I know. I know I'm not I'm not upset with him coming back. Yeah. It's not in. I just think him coming back and immediately like where were the stones at that point inside of ventures HQ. So why they had them in their hands. Right. They all they were all actually holding them weren't they will know because they had created a gauntlet and hull kid had both night. Right. Right. Right. Right right now. So why would why would he just appear in just blessed HQ to bit instead of going and getting the stones? Yeah. It just it it just irritated me. And the. Okay. So many things irritated which I will get to because I had a lot of great comets that helped me understand some of this. So some of my issues were why was it so easy for Thanos to do the snap in the first place? And but yet it was so challenging for hulk and it basically killed Tony. So that was that was one of my issues. I'll talk about all talk about that another issue is that God, damn, captain, marvel useless. She was so calm on whatever attitude. Oh, my good lady. What is your deal? I do not like her. And the fact that she suddenly appears unlike. Yes, captain Marvel's here. She basically punches her way through an entire spaceship. And yet she can't get a punch into Thanos. I mean. Yeah. So I understand her character in this movie. I don't at all useless. I mean, they make her seem like she is. Completely unstoppable because she harnesses so much power. And yet she was like, she couldn't do anything. So that was my other issue. It wasn't just captain marvel. But why couldn't anyone kill Thanos because in Infinity war? He was really powerful because the ad all the stones in this case. He didn't have the stones. He was just a bad guy. Right. So why was it so hard to defeat them, and I'll get to that in a minute to. But ultimately, it was everybody. Like all right fight fight fight. Like, I kind of likened it to two little kids when they have their army men, and they're just like smashing together. Like, yes. Yeah. Like firefight? Okay. And they're tearing that's it just felt and I feel like that's what C does with a lot of their movies or like that's the chaos explosion. Exactly, exactly. What it was? It was chaos. You know, like I love the scene where doctor strange kind of portals everybody in that was beautiful. So like all right cool here. They come nice. You get to see. Everybody's little cameo people. Come. I'm back a glimpse of their face. You're like, yes. It's all good. But then it was just like sh-, right? Just smashed together. Even happens. Yeah. Chaos. And I was like all right. This is not what I wanted. No. Yes. Yes. But in the end, I thought it was I thought it was a. I don't know if the word is good fair appropriate sendoff to the adventures by Tony dying and having that funeral with everybody there. Yeah. I was okay. With that. I was totally. I was totally fine. With the with the end end. You know, I think that you know, you saw the moments like I mentioned the moment when Spiderman and iron man reunited, and he was like I went to sleep in the Mr. strange woke us up and Bubba, and it was adorable and cute and emotional and they make like he's twelve come out. That's his character. I'm okay with that. He's going to evolve. In the next movie. We'll talk about the next Spiderman we'll be a little bit. Maybe at the end here. But I loved that scene. And I wish that instead of just the chaos of the battle. They could have done it differently. And had more of those scenes were I felt emotionally pulled in because you get that emotional moment. And one of the things I said in my review was I was waiting for that big. Yes. And I never got it. Right. I came close when everyone was coming back in as captain America says avengers assemble assemble and I was like, yes. That was my yes moment. But then I was the closest right? But then they just kind of like you said they kind of blew it up. And I think it would have been would have served the movie better if they kinda pulled back on that and just had some more emotional moments, and maybe kept a marvel just fucking did something that would have been cool. Useless. So let me make a comment about doctor strange. I know a lot of people were not a big fan of the doctor strange movie. But I just feel like it was so important, various Horton. It was a really important movie. And that's one thing this movie made other movies much more important because you know, I have my list of what to watch the movies in which ones we're in. You know, I said ant man in the waas was pretty much useless movie. And it wasn't important. But it definitely becomes a little more important once and games out. So it changes things defining definitely changes, Dr strange. So I think I think part of that is going to be important in a minute. When I talk about some of the comments, but I do want to say one thing, you know, how there's this one scene where doctor strange looks at Tony any holds up his finger. Yes. And I took that to mean, this is the one this is the one instance. Do you remember where he said? Oh, well, no, yes. No. I know what you're talking about. I didn't take it that way. Well, ironman said to him is this the one, and he said something like, you know, like, basically, I can't tell you that just, you know, go ahead. Do what you gotta do. And when he did that thing he was looking at him and he held up his finger. I thought he was saying like wait for it. You're going to get your moment in just a minute. And I'll cook because then it was like the then the whole thing happened. And he got the chance to pull all the stones from Thanos. He I thought he was telling him like one minute. We're not quite ready. Okay. Go I is how I felt I took it as this is the one maybe we struck that'd be to. Okay. Interesting. Also explains why Tony had to live. But okay, you want to hear this this going to blow your mind. Okay. Supposedly the writers. This is coming through my twelve year old who told me this. He read the okay that out of all the fourteen billion combinations. That the. Reason this one works is because this is the only time in which the mouse or the rat runs over the buttons to bring ant man back Jesus Christ. I actually if you look at my review on my TV traveler website, I wrote can we talk about the fact that about a rat basically saved the universe. I I wrote that I was like one in fourteen billion chance of him doing that. I. Okay, fine. I didn't write it. I didn't say it. I'm just I'm just saying. I'm just saying. All right. Well, I had some really super great comments on my review. Some that were actually way better than my review. So I wanna can I run through some of them. Oh, yeah. Mind. All right. Some of these some of these are just kind of agreeing with what we said, but okay, this came from from one commenter endgame was a lifetime chance wasted very boring. Barely any action except last half hour mockery of Thorin Antman four century of captain marvel messy time travel, and this one how come spider-man's friends and same class five years had passed. All right. That was scissor. Tell me I have an answer. The answer is the friends that are still with him in his class. There's only a few of them, and they were also dusted and came back. Same time, so perfectly make sense. I thought about that. But I also thought that if I had disappeared for five years, and then came back and save the universe. I'm probably not even going to bother with high school us. I don't know. I think they need to go back to high school. They they get it. You know, stay in school kids. Okay. That was the only your explanation was the only one I could come up with. But I can't I can't verify that another one said I walked out of the theater a little letdown. I felt like something was missing. I watched most of the marvel movies this movie, I felt was all over the place. I agree with that. Here's another one. My biggest irritation. I could say that it was Tony dying because he's been my favorite. But man, he died such a hero. So was that they figured out time travel surprisingly easily. I mean, they kind of have to to move the story forward. And yet they couldn't figure out that present day nebula a robot which she's not a robot. But anyway would have a connected consciousness with her past nebula now that was not explained well to my satisfaction either. But that was one of those things where I was like just go with it. Somebody else was disappear. Pointed that hulk didn't fight Thanos even once in the movie that was the fight. I wanted to see. Then we had some comic book people way in which is always good because they always give this background that you and I don't have. And they said for a comic book fan. It is easy to realize why Thanos had no problem fighting the avengers without the stones. And why he could use it freely and Infinity war the mad titan, which is what he's known as isn't entirely different category than the others that have attempted to wheel the stones. Unlike other beings that are able to wield only one stone or not even hold one. He is mighty enough along with the help of the gauntlet to withstand their power. He so strong that finding the adventures all it's not that difficult to him. So I think really that just goes back to more of his character from. From the comic books. Yeah. This one this one is is aunt, man. And the wasp y y the way this person said it, I think is important. So they said, and I don't think there are a native English speaker. So just bear with me. They said that they thought it was sloppy haste work not possible. The movie supposedly shot back to back with Infinity war. I think I see a Mike when professor hulk visit store. I know that's true or not. There was no Starbucks Cup anywhere though. Ant man, supposedly in the van fixing power. But in the next battle cut, he's huge in fighting enemies. Why didn't aunt men age in the quantum realm? I think we all know that Paul Rudd never ages but five years was only five hours to him. But Hank Pym swipe aged normally. Oh, yes. So I think that was a big sort of unexplained gap. Well, maybe she was how long I mean wasn't. She earn a year like thirty years. So I mean. You you five years argue felt like five hours to him. So you could say thirty years should have been more like thirty hours. And I still wanna know how she stayed in the quantum realm for thirty years what she ate and where she got her makeup. Okay. No one's ever explained that to me. All right. But this next this next guy, and I have to mention him by name Simon pain pretty much wrote a book, and it was good. So I just want to read some of what he said he said, I respect how they were prepared to the show the consequences. What Thanos had done but by killing him off so quickly, and then the vendors having to do their own stone quest it felt slow Lacey and rehashed because that's pretty much what Thanos did in Infinity war worse than that was that it felt very self indulgent and attempting to be clever for clever sake like how back to the future to considered itself clever for showing the events of the first film, but with mardi flitting around behind the scenes to ensure that it all still happened. I know it's meant to be fan pleasing. But it really felt like a gimmick. And lacking in confidence almost like it was saying, hey, guys. This will make you smile. And if you wanna make me smile concentrate on maintaining the quality of your. Product rather than directly trying to make me like you. I totally agree with that. I don't know. I knew he said, but the trouble with messing around with timelines and bouncing around is that it makes the audience start asking questions during the film, the already that we see an Infinity war in the imminent fast approaching threat is replaced in endgame with a lack of direction and characters that are earlier versions of who the audience is seen. So this is where he talks about you know, Thanos was sympathetic character. And now, he's just a bad guy. And I don't know. And he said the thing that's meant to be amazing about the MC. You is the world building. But inconsistencies have been appearing. And they're so many an endgame that it makes you question. Whether these two films were written by the same people. I mean to me it definitely feels like. It it didn't feel like the same the same thing. The CEO be the same writers the same directors. I mean, let's let's be fair. This was a big job. Okay. Living up to the final. You know phase the final movie in this phase of the MC you this was so hyped so hyped. Okay. It's a tough job to make everyone happy and to come out with a perfect product. You know, I feel like they did a decent job. There's always gonna be people that aren't gonna like and are gonna criticize and there's a large amount of people who just adored loved loved loved this movie and cried through the whole thing. You know, there's a lot of people that loved it. So I just feel like. Like, I said we've talked about this for an hour now. And it's yeah, it wasn't maybe the movie that we all expected after Infinity ward because of the war was amazing. But I think that they did a pretty damn good job considering everything they had to fit in and address an answer. I still say, no. Because if if this if Infinity war was originally part one part two than this story was already created. It was already written as a complete story. And I almost feel like they went back and change things to make the fans happy, and I think that they ended up they just made a lot of it's silly like like someone said. This. This is listened to the marples. Always okay was just marvels always had that element of silly. Like it needed to there. No, that's not. That's not what I'm talking about. So so someone made this comment when Thorpe creates storm breaker, that's his big giant axe makes his entrance conduct. I felt it for the journey that Thor hit had been on. He's had to contend with loss and defeat and humiliation. And this is his redemption. Right. He's earned his game changing weapon in him. He faces a character that everyone's running away from an everyone is like, yes, right? An endgame. It feels like all of that is corrupted. So we can't have Thorpe. This is what one of my readers was saying we can't have Thorpe being dominant. Let's break him and make him a fool. We can't have Thanos being complicated and relatable, let's make him a cut out bad guy. We can't have hulk being raged fueled in smashing stuff up. Let's make it more sensitive and talking stuff out. We can. Have cap being stoic in heroin. Let's have him ridiculing iconic lines in a silly gimmicky fight with himself and commenting on his, but we can't have a powerful female character that we're invested in look sexy and be able to take down Thanos. Oh, by the way, I didn't even mention her awful haircut. And then let's give Scarlett which a small part, but focus our attention on female character that has an earned our admirations or desire for revenge. And I was like that is pretty much it. I feel like they did such a good job of bringing all the characters together in affinity war. And they just took it all away. Okay. Those are great. That's a great point. All of those were great points. I and I do see that point of view. Yeah. I I can't argue with that. You're right. And then I only have one more last thing to say that I did not include my post, but someone brought it up, and it was something that bothered me in the movie. And that was I'm not even gonna talk about the whole. Whole captain America going back in time. And if he goes back in time, how does he age out in that time line where he's the captain America that went back in time and not even gonna talk about that paradox. I'm gonna talk about the fact that he comes back and gives his shield to now. Can right, right? Not Bucky right falcons, a regular guy. Yeah. Here. Here's here's what I what. I think about this now in the comic books. I I've haven't read the comic books, but I've read about the falcon in winter soldier in the comics, and they had both at some point wielded CAP's shield. Yeah. Apparently. Yes. So it was not completely out of the, you know, realm of possibility that he would get it. And we know Disney's confirm that they're going to be doing a series. Falcon a winter soldier. So I predict that the two of them some shit. Is going to go down and eventually buck. He's going to get that shield. Like, he at least I hope. So that's what I think. I think they're I think they put that in there to create a story for the next phase. I don't know why cap would have chosen him. And maybe we need to that that I feel like it's a little bit not an Easter egg. Really? But. Precursor. You know, something for us to think about why did he do that? And they're gonna find out the only thing is that I can think is because of of what you said, which is that in the comic books falcon takes over as captain America. Yeah. So I think it'll be interesting to see in that kind of is a good segue into our next point the next point. I wanted to make about the Spiderman trailer now after endgame has been out for a few weeks and all the, you know, spoiler bands have been lifted and people are pretty much freely. Talking about this movie now. Spiderman comes out with a new trailer. The new Spiderman movie far from home comes out July second and the latest trailer kind of excited me like I'm a Spiderman fan, anyway, we know that but. I'm pretty excited about where it seems. They're going. Okay. They they made a lot of references to you know, like where do you the new iron, man? Like now, I don't really think they're gonna make somebody a new iron, man. I don't think they're going to do that. But they need somebody's got to be the leader. Okay. I I mean, would you would you agree that iron man was the leader of the avengers that that's kind of always seen him. Yes. We they this up and coming generation of avengers needs a leader. So I'm really curious to see what they're gonna do. I don't think it could be Spiderman by oh better. That would that would be silly. But I'm really excited about the future. I'm in kind of wear they're gonna take it. They've got these series plan, which aren't really serious or more like mini series. They're going to be like, they say six to ten episodes. So it's kind of like a mini movie that they're going to be putting out around. There's winter soldier and falcon there's another one called Wanda vision, which Disney that's a stupidest title ever yesterday. But obviously about a Wanda and vision, and there's I think there's one LOKI there's one confirmed for LOKI, those are the three I believe that are completely confirmed and actually in the works. So those oh, the I think there's a Hawkeye one too. But I think what they're going to be doing is showing you like wrapping up the bits and pieces of those characters and showing you how they're going to be moving on whether it's their proteges. I've heard the Hawkeye series is about him training, whoever the next person is possibly his daughter to become you know, the next adventure in his stead. You know, kind of thing some I'm pretty pretty excited. Yeah. I'm ready to be done with what we're what we've seen a I'm done with it. I yeah, I'm okay with. Something new well, we got we've got guardians of the galaxy three coming up which I'm excited about because we have good Maura back. It's not our same camera, and it's a little frustrating because of all the growth her character went through in the first two movies that now we're kind of back where we are. And I'm worried that that's going to be like a running gag of like really this is the guy that I'm into. But the addition of the war could be good so good provided. And I mean, I've already said that I loved the way he was handled in this movie. I'm totally okay with his character in a being goofy. But I don't wanna see that in guardians of the galaxy. Like, we need him to go back to the, you know. Salutes that gut strong Thor. And he needs to figure out who he is who he is. And I I've also read that Chris Hemsworth who plays Thor is a really freaking funny guy. And he yeah, he is asked to play more comedic roles. So that probably had something to do with the way he was treated in endgame, and I'd like to see him in guardians of the galaxy three in more of a comedic role. But not you know, I mean, the way it wasn't Infinity war that was awesome. Yes. Yet at the play between him and Peter quilt. And that was what happened to my ex right there. Yeah. I mean, you know, who's in charge that whole thing at the end. It was great. And I would love to see more of that. All right. Well, I think there's some possibility there, and I'm I'll see Spider-Man reluctantly. But we'll we'll see where it goes. Yup. Yup. We will. Well, that was a lot to talk about. And I don't know if you if you're if you're still into talking about it, you know, share hop on our Facebook group because we have a thread there. Yeah. Search for it and leave your comments, and we would love to discuss it some more will I picked are closing line today. Okay. That actually I I was reading about this. It is Tony Stark's. Final words and actually this scene originally he didn't say anything as he died, and I guess they felt like they needed to put a period on that sentence. And so they went to him and said we want to shoot the scene. Can you imagine after? You've already filmed all this. They want you to get back into character back into that emotional moment, and he finally agreed and this is his closing line. I am iron, man. Goodbye iron, man. We love you by everyone by everyone.

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Off The Record: Fasties Award Drama || Jokes You Can't Say (ft. Tim DeLaGhetto)

JKNews

20:39 min | 1 year ago

Off The Record: Fasties Award Drama || Jokes You Can't Say (ft. Tim DeLaGhetto)

"We need three to one action. Hey guys welcome back off the record we talk about whatever we want my brain part of for a second smell a brought to you by Barbell. Release these new gloves. Check it out at the bar ball shop. Barbara Gay puts me for real one back in black way. Like why did he have been great like flying around traveling by just trying to get my sleep schedule back on track fast food words? A somewhat brutal. Yeah what the hell was that? All about the fast food were more. It was hosted by you. Apparently David to the poster is new and then they got that you could barely see. Yeah fell happily blatant disrespect. We have this guy from while the now and some guy that looks like a relative or site what happened is the poster for me. Probably you and David was laid down and they're like just keep covering that guy with balls. Don't stop there was so many comments in that in the comments. And they're like. Oh how come how? Mono David in the poster and maybe it's a metaphor because we have this running gag where it's like people recognize me and they don't care about David and then the kids will come up to us and they always say David you're famous picture and they this whole like I'm going to ignore him and take pictures with David so that we give him some shine on the episode. They don't get that we cut all that anyways because the joke is that they only come up to me. David gets annoyed because the kids come up to David. Like hey man during about famous dave. It's like it's a joke. We don't care just for the bed. Jeez shrug right before what. The fuck is the marketing department. Where is the marketing department? Aware of this show. Yeah you want to know some drama with the fast food yes dramas the best shit in the world so so just a quick like so thrilled. I was like okay. Yeah let's do the fast food awards right so they call them the fast they had me and David hosting. That'S WHY WE'RE NEW YORK. Would you hosting a quick little fun? It's like an hour long award shows like super little silly stuff like oh had the best chicken sandwich of the year. They had little memorial. Memorium wha what do they call those the talking about menu? Probably Yeah for all the menu menu items. That are no longer with us. She just funny. What was the best chicken sandwich of the year? You're interpreting in for another story. I want to hear the drama is of course Popeye's convert muzzle with those in realize is. There's this guy who who's a writer for the simpsons so he's he has a his his own following but he does a thing in his car where he does fast food awards and I guess he takes his vast would really seriously and so he was like what the Fuck Bill. Rip Off my all his like all his followers are through his comments like well. That's messed up that you would that you would take ideas rating and giving awards to fast. That sounds like such a basic idea sees. His father was like. That's pretty messed up. That you would just take his word very seriously. I'm like I'm like I get that you'd be irritated when you feel like you know you have the only one and then like big company comes like we're going to do your. I your idea but at the same time it's like giving awards to things. Isn't you like a concept you can copy giving awards and things that you didn't make yes you don't own any of that like the. Sag Awards copy you like Steel Kaddoumi awards idea or silly. This'll probably backfire against me and my career but I don't I don't get why they have the SAG words so that the player yes is. It isn't a SAG award supposed to be more of like the people right. I don't think so. I think that's the people's choice. Literally the people in Sagger voting on it but everyone is also in everyone in Oscars are awesome sec. So I'm like the Oscars is a very specific academy of people right and then sags like everybody say the hurts people's vote of the actors to everybody in the Union. Can you say I don't ever WANNA be screeners? He said she's a set the screeners. Why would you WANNA be saying? Is You get on the big projects. Never mind that and when you said you know it's like a union you get benefits. I'd rather be a sweat shop worker. I'm Asian nine that's it sweatshop. Also I have health insurance for the first time in my life helping. It's like let's just so luke how. That sounds better a better a union job. You weren't as what shop would you be the guy in there going? We can't you need is. Don't do this to the manager. Now it'd be me. Why would you guys WanNa get table? What's wrong with you healthcare? Pay Out of your own pocket bitch. I never had healthcare. So what happened to the guy was? Did you guys like Oh shut up. Oh I mean I mean this was just kind of like. I don't know how they handled it. They were like more views on what they did. Is they stopped referring it to it as the first ever fast-food award because that's what they were doing dude after two days. Nobody's GONNA remember exactly. No one fucking marinate on this shift for like a month later. I can't believe they stole this. Format bills. Were like Oh man. It's going down right now in our on twitter like people are saying. I'm looking like no one gives us ten people. It's really not a big deal. So how did they? How DID THEY DETERMINE? How do they protect the votes from from outside Undue influence. It's IT'S I. Think the votes from the fastest bills this show is just the thrill list food experts and whoever was ever but they obviously they have to deliberate somewhere and then they have to cast their ballots. And then those. What are those ballots? Go Oh how do they protect people finding out the suitcase and then he has the Hanke to it and nobody has to sleep with his wife. Can't see it. It's like a double key submarine situation where it should. They should look like a bag of food though. Like it's nine McDonald's bag or something you know that's the decoy. All Okay Got A. I wonder how serious the committee takes their job or the fast food deciding who to fuck in put in for the next president funny because when they gave the awards away you know there was a couple of people to accept your words guys that were from the executive office of the fast food places and I think the guy from White Castle was so honored gave like a nice speech. A different gentlemen. How they're my friends cries renew NACHOS and the same establish can no respect chicken chicken tacos raw soul good. Was there anybody that one. Oh yeah have you ever heard holders. I've never heard of covers. So it's it's a burger place but it's more I guess there in Arizona Zona then we're in the middle a hardee's Carl's junior situation. No it's their own shit and it's called covert and they won Burger of the year. Yeah they have some butter Burger. That was the fucking voter. That's what it was. Maybe California people in and out every year via pouring ceremony. Where are you from? Where are you from from east coast down from California Person? That doesn't want to know. I like Burger which is technically california-berkeley considered fast food too. I like I don't even know what fast I'm shake shack baby but it's not really fast because I thought fast food means you can leave it in the car for three days and the next day it's still perfectly legal in. Yeah I out to do that. If there was a fallout. You could bet food is going to last and you can eat. It's that's that's that's fast food you really should in and also like never frozen. That's why he can't in like two hours to taste with cost. I think fast casual. I think the difference is in a fast. Food is the food's already prepped. And it's like left their Damn Wendy's also has never frozen. Oh you got to feel weird man. As of three years ago I think so. Yeah because I. I think that the new thing. I've missed old man. You guys remember that old man Wendy. The Wendy's man he died. In recent years ago it used to be consuls. Shit Yeah Wendy's guy grew up on this for eight Wendy's to He. He he looks like he made all the burgers he looks like a human teddy bear. Yeah looks adorable. The also looks like Cat from the Carson show who star search and dead ringer fucking ringer seriatim for this stars. Oh my Gosh Star. Search Star Search for American idol of before they would go to the malls and stuff and yet dishing talent show when I was like a horny. Eleven year old. I used to turn to watch that until look at star search glitter downs Baywatch Baywatch. Where's your watch wasn't always on married with children? Came on me home. My God I would take that shit hoping that a scene will pop out. Christina applegate nerve puck and flock of friends would come out like a pause that mother Fucker Jack off because they wouldn't wear bras and it was awesome. I would fast forward during all anytime out at the shoe store because that shit those things were so funny. It's in those jokes. Were so fucked up like you can't even do that shit today. He's got some really fat lady that comes in and she's like loving. He has to put on the shoe. But then there's also like always hot girls that come in and he misses it because he was sleeping and then they leave my favorite episodes of him with the customer so like he already got in trouble for making fat jokes for one customer so he was like he was in like he was in trouble. You know what I'm saying so his boss like you cannot have another one of these situations. You have all your customers. So he's like all right all right so he's helping this lady with her shoe and she has this huge sweaty growth. Would she's like. Don't I have the cutest chose? I'm just a size too. Aren't they so cute? And he's like he's like soil sweating dripping sweat. He's like yeah super cute for sausages sausages sausages. And he's like oh Bob because that was a joke he kept roasting. They never want to buy anything in the League. But when you're being horny kid. It's not the best scenes it's your out of their give back to the. What's what's wrong with those jokes that we got to change him. Now because it's mean will who's a mean to to sausage feet funny while I think singling out one type of body type so all the other one like a skinny per all you've got twitter feed it would have been balanced out. I guess I think just you don't WanNa make fun of people anymore. It's all about inclusivity now but roaster more popular than ever. Yeah that's true. Yeah so I think there's I think there's both happening when you watch in on it. Yeah Yeah Yeah I guess like you're saying the other person on the other end is not in on it like if it's a scrape another funny just like how skinny people not for everyone but also it's a scripted show than the person in the scene is in on the joke but the people that are watching it aren't you're picking and when you rose people now you don't really roast them on their appearance or race or way or whatever you can if they're they're like saying this is my roast about me the best thing you know for that show it's like hey casting call morbidly obese woman with bent feet and here's my big break it picks up the phone and she's like. I got because they're the people actually want to be on the show sure which is tight consenting joke yeah well then the argument of that would be like there's the rules for that body type and that's fucked up but here's the thing also with with mayor with children right now and a lot of old shows that people like have an issue with is that Albany was an asshole. You know what I'm saying. Like he was a Dick and he was supposed to be a bad person. That's the character or or just like I think I saw something where they did like the fiber also this thing where they showed. New generation like millennials old episodes of Seinfeld and the whole bit like does this. Does this hold up right? And everyone's like Oh my God. I can't believe they're saying these things. I can't believe they're doing these things but like Seinfeld. Everybody was an asshole to saying the whole funnier. Is that a lot of things. Get MISSED IN CONTEXT. Because they don't understand the comedy behind right the fans of it either which is fine. You don't like that. I love my I mean like the whole culture back then was so different too. So it's like the. The context of the jokes in that time is different than today's time. 'cause everything is like bad Santa. He's asshole all works or always sunny in Philadelphia are terrible and there's laughing at the character because it's not really what the character says. It's like he says crazy shit because of the character but then people I think they're just dance man they don't get it though. I think that the twitter brigade people is a small percentage of the population. I think most people are are just. Our children are more more chills. The loud minority of people that want to get upset and it's hard when they're like constantly because I mean South Park's still survives and they're better than I think even better now because it's so taboo. The reason reason why they're able to get away with it is because it's an animation like person saying the things that they're saying and that's because I forgot which creator but from a different animation show. They were saying like the only way we can say these things and write these things. Because it's not it's like a cartoon character saying their kids to how. How fucking stupid would it be to get angry at that but also that's why like when? I watched when I watch the Book of Mormon which is from the creators of South Park. And it's it's all the South Park you know type of humor but it's live people I was like. Oh my God I can't even crazier with humans it. It's it's a little crazy it's like. Oh I can't believe they're saying these things and those guys take a shot at everything man. They like Carbon Shits on. Jews the entire show you all the time. They should on Islam Christianity everything. I love that on everything. It's it's when I hear somebody who I know has a certain point of view shit on something. That's not their point of view. I'm always like wait a minute. You're biased. Yeah so it's less. It's less funny because you're biased. But they should on everything so they're not really by the exact Even though I'm sure they have their own biases but they don't they fucking go after everything. Yeah that's true. I haven't even seen them favor. I've seen the only favor the Denver Broncos they all Denver broncos fan so real. You think that's because the creators are because they're in Colorado for the show. Creators are definitely. I can tell you that right now. We need to do animation show. That's expensive yeah cartoon called powerhouse. I loved it so fun. We did with maker Studios. Rip. How much did it cost parabolas? That was yeah off camera. I wrote the first season the show. Tim Doesn't ever acknowledged. He wrote the first season showing really cares for the credits. You never have to see that again. I actually I just found that out like the last time we need to remember though it was written on. This isn't funny at all. The puck trash. You just did voice acting on. Yeah I'll go in and we would go off the script and Improv a little bit but we go in put it because the characters were me white wine on the I mean. They were writing for us. Which is was racist now. It was me rigging. Pd flow you know so it was like it was would go in there and have fun and if ever we had an issue with this group like. I don't like that joke but they're usually pretty great true. We're trying to do with us in an. I don't know where the fuck it went. Who Meager no was collective. We're still seventy one. Yeah I forgot what happened. I have a killer fucking cartoon show. I can't say it on both offensive and is I don't want anyone to steal it but like damn that could actually be offensive enough where people are like. I like it you have. Maybe maybe I'll tell you I'll tell you off air. Are you setting any ethnic or race group on ball love the race jokes? Not Not not so much enough to get by. Can't we do jokes? I feel so join us on Patriots where we do a mother fucking crazy place clean. We're going to do an entire episode on adderall. Or we're going to talk about at all. We're going to be on admiral talk about what if I took her on. I just became a normal person. Yeah that's that's the point the point that'd be the fun part guys. Can you stay on topic please? You're at a movie. Premiere the other night and this cat next to me and he he was on general for sure yet because anytime anything happened in the movie. He's like getting up and leave. Yes I saw it on like. You're you're so fucking annoying but yeah then then water like chill entertaining then the anytime. A character did something sad or something. You'd like cocaine people. Yeah exactly but that's admiral emotionally intelligent dude. You don't trust me. You can read the round with his body movement. Even tip tip ascended five rose up from me and she can see this catch gone for. I do that outside of Admiral. So does that mean. You Take Admiral and then you relax into it. That's why I need to see you on Admiral. Yeah I think you would take an accordion and write a fucking symphony out of it. You accepted I. According to the symphony would be dismissed. I know and then he takes a penny writes the music and air.

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Netflix 1st decline, Amazons Prime Day records, and Unicorn of the Day: Turo

Snacks Daily

16:00 min | 2 years ago

Netflix 1st decline, Amazons Prime Day records, and Unicorn of the Day: Turo

"This is John. This is snacks dailies Thursday July eighteenth. We feeling about this teaboy time. This is actually the best snacks that we've ever done markets inch down attack. I'm very excited for this diverse like complete breakfast status Addis Serious OATMEAL. The first one is impressive on Prime Day just ended. We'll tell you the strategy behind Amazon's discount lose. It's all about the flywheel effect you start saying flywheel effect second-story Netflix had its worst quarter that we can remember as far as I can tell shares dropped opt by twelve percent blamed two reasons. We're not blaming Dustin Dustin from stranger dozens at third and final story. The Unicorn of the day is thorough. It's a car share company a rideshare company just guy two hundred fifty million dollar investment from I A C. We've got a big Asmara's knackers at the end of the keep listening. We're going to ask you when we get to that story but I one of the greatest days of the year was was yesterday. I'm pretty much still saw. We didn't notify you in advance. No notify you post. We didn't have your number. We would have texted you and you would have visually visually seen it. Yesterday was World Emoji or I can't believe this nine new emoji coming to apple realize we're talking. They got a four mango there flamingo which is also a yoga pose that I can't do when you try to do it people judge you gotta hearing aid and a seeing eye wheelchair accessibility. Where's the millennial support puppy Ford Motor Company actually lobbied and had like a great marketing campaign? It's pretty clever. They made a blue truck. EMOJI shot in there. Now there also was like a botched falafel Emoji that looks like mouths dropped didn't work out pretty well. We also found out the winners of like the International Emoji competition who is most popular the most popular Emoji wait for it all right ready. It's so funny we have to say this smiley blush face with all those hearts around. We'll put this in the newsletter newsletter too by the way ironically in second place as if it new. WE'RE GONNA lose this Ad Emoji with the biggest sad puppy I thas keep celebrating World Emoji Day in the meantime listen to these keywords daily Food said candy they don't reflect the views of robinhood family informational just recommending securities. It's not a research report or investment advice NATTA uproar sale of security human digestive business financial l._l._C. Members S._I._P._C. Four first story Amazon's Prime Day prime days is officially over and we got to cover this there were. Winners in there are rumors that deal and review websites like wire cutter dot com actually hired extra writers just to write articles about best Amazon prime deal. We haven't verified this but we've heard this the P._r.. Amazon they put out a press release after this. I like their sense consumer with this. You don't expect this from Amazon opened up with Alexa. How was Prime Day clever? I like they did that. This very you know who thought of twenty nineteenth surpassed black Friday and cyber Monday combined that was the big headline. That's what they lead with. Get this one hundred seventy five million million items were bought on Amazon prime. Get this that seventy five million more AK seventy five percent more than the previous year yes and the bestsellers by country that was just an entertaining walks. This was just fun and this is a buzzfeed logistical built into Amazon Amazon best-sellers again. They've got some intern there now and we don't know who your top selling items in the U._S.. Number one was the personal water filter Straw which you can stick in a river and drink and write good drinkable incredibly practical then you've got like one hundred thousand lunchboxes that for some MHM reason I guess everyone's eating lunch. They just got my fiance Ashiq lunchbox and then this one made us what's going on with society people really questioning their origins here twenty three and me ancestry kits were like selling off the shelf now interestingly we saw this broken other countries entry so in Singapore apparently the top selling items fresh milk and coke zero. I think Amazon was just bragging that you can get fresh smell right organism Singapore's just really thirsty then we saw video game in the United Kingdom the number one video game console was playstation but in Mexico it was Nintendo switch and Australia likes video games like I like my video. Take it easy with a little bit of Yoshi. Mario Kart Deluxe Abouzar Donkey Kong interestingly. You had some other things too like Italy shocker biggest selling item N._S.. Cafe Espresso them yeah. They're playing cliches here. In Germany you had practical things. Read a book a Steel Pan and a smart light sock of course why wouldn't you now that was what was sold countrywide. Also what was really interesting was the surprise about who also benefit from Amazon's prime day the halo effect exactly now anybody who has an email account which is most of us Yep side that rival companies were hosting rival like Amazon prime style sale. I'm still getting emails from Bonobos J. crew you know how might skin likes a nice pair of Khaki between it Brooklyn out in Dumbo and the dial up situation up in Vermont sugarbush ski resort had an Amazon Prime. They're all screaming you shocker. Oh my God another thirty percent off today so big retailers that have sales over a billion one dollars their sales spiked by sixty eight percent on Amazon prime and even small retailers who are a lot smaller they saw sales jumped twenty eight percent because people are just in shopping motor to raise you can read into this right on the one hand. It's a signal that people are comparison shopping. They see Amazon and then they're checking out. Can I get the Khakis up and on the other hand see that retailers are under pressure. They can't let Amazon take all the sales so it's a race to the bottom. Everybody's discounting their press. This feels like a good moment for the takeaway Jack. So what's the takeaway for our buddies over Amazon. The flywheel effect for Amazon is real legendary N._B._A.. Professor James Collins described the flywheel effect as a self reinforcing loop Brad Stone who wrote a book called the everything store Amazon calls the fly wheel the secret sauce of Amazon's Jeff Bezos who knows more about Amazon than Amazon knows about Bazo said that the flywheel effect is quote unquote virtual cycle all right. We've left you hanging. Let's tell you what the flywheel is. The original idea was that if Amazon could reduce prices that would attract visitors to the website and that would attract sellers to the website and that would attract more visitors to the website which would improve the whole website ecosystem virtuous circle. Now we're seeing the flywheel effect in a whole new way kicked up people have already paid one hundred nineteen dollars per year to become prime members so they need to justify its they need to go on the website and splurge alerts when they can so they go in and they start buying even more things on prime and they know is that what's the most discounted or Amazon products s what the top selling items overall. We haven't even told you that we're saving the best for last was Amazon Alexa device. We're talking Echo Dot Alexa fire confuse things anything with the word election it was selling well and now Alexis in their homes now flywheel chapter one hundred. He's GonNa buy more stuff on Amazon With v Commerce Voice Commerce through the chapters been ridden for second-story Netflix. Alex just suffered the worst quarter remember. We were just having this doc dip twelve percent it was. I think it's more of a plummeted favorite way though to describe Netflix is history Jackson trying to push us never saw the movie pass but for it's like Fetch Jacksonville trying to make this happen when I realized that it's kind of like I didn't move pass to stay in movie pass to stay back to Netflix his second quarter earnings report analysts expected three hundred thousand new users to sign up in the U._S.. Because you know Netflix is growing turns out Netflix Lost Lost One hundred thousand losers. This is the first time I remember net flicks losing subscribers in any category. I went back to the board. We have on Netflix Jack. I don't see any losses like the real. Bad News was not in the U._S.. It was international right because that's where all the key. The growth is actually happening. Analysts expected four point eight million new subscribers abroad guess what they got two point eight million. That's about half now. A lot of this has to do with the pricing and Netflix acknowledge these standard price for a netflix account increased. Increase last quarter from eleven dollars to thirteen dollars. It's called Price Pakalitha on ninety percent of people listening to like yeah I mean I knew that they're sharing passwords so netflix acknowledged that it was partially the price increase but mainly they blamed the content slate. The second quarter for net flicks was really focused on just some interesting not particularly exciting original their original content. It just wasn't creating you got that Christina applegate drama thirty. It's called dead to me. I actually just watched the trailer. It's two women who lost their husbands and they cope through laughter. Yeah Actually Looks Kinda funny. It's also kind of dramatic incredibly dark but uplifting and kind of hits it yourself and then he got our planet which is like planet earth but on Netflix again this was incredibly ambitious super expensive Netflix but you what did really well open up incredibly well see it just didn't move the needle so that was the second quarter but Netflix I that was that's in the past. We're changed person over here and they said we gotta talk about the upcoming. Third Third Quarter is getting clued. The third series of stranger things matches mind people are already available. We're in the third quarter already exactly and they're like that's GonNa Count in the future so like pay attention venue got another season of the crown right which is about the current queen of England still lot around. Do you think she watches the show. She listened to snacks daily so she does. She can just let us know if you watch it. Finally got the Irishman which is Martin Scorsese thing probably about the mob but iron alert Robert De Niro and Al Pacino in this thing and you got a Michael Bay thing called six under right weekend just sperry from watching it. Here's the <hes> punchline and then finally they brought their spin doctors in to talk about friends. Which is the popular show that it's losing next year right the says guess what friends is leaving but that means we have eighty million dollars? A year that we can spend end on original Gaza conflicts really wants you to not care about the second quarter and really care about the third quarter so jack. What's the takeaway for our buddies chilling over? I'm going to quote Ryan Howard from season five of the office. Acquiring customers is harder than retaining exists. This is actually the subject of an office episode. It can cost a lot more money to find new netflix subscribers than to keep ones that are already in fact a lot of analysis shows. It can take up to five times more money to get a new person using your product then just keep an existing user enjoying your process. It's spending a ton of money to acquire new customers but is not working. New Customers are attracted to new content and new content costs a lot of money in the past Netflix succeeded with orange is the new black chef table and house of cards but second quarter not so much for our third and final story. It's our Unicorn the day tomorrow the AIRBNB cars just <hes> reached over a billion dollar valuation. You've heard of home share. You've heard of rideshare now. This is your car share. Not just any car sharing your the one. You have. The one that you've got that kind of weird smell with Toronto is the world's largest peer. Would appear car sharing company. You may have heard of get around which is their main competitor but these are the big ones I a c just invested two hundred fifty million dollars into now. This is a company that also happens to own tinder. It's also got him in D. V. Mio it's basically got a lot of startups in its portfolio. It's a whole bookmark list of websites where we liked here. Jack and I were looking into this was the way they described it. They said quote unquote. We like market is in the press release for the Invest. It's the kind of thing your middle school teacher would just love how asynchronous they got right to. As marketplace's these days are tech middlemen that make money just by providing an APP and peace of mind the Nice Little Combo. Can you give me the sales pitch back for Tura. You've got a car. It's a good car. It's got the oil change. Maybe got a nickname for betty but here's the thing you're watching all six star wars this weekend. You're Goin' anywhere. NOPE car is watching with you know what else isn't going anywhere your car sitting right there so you can list your car on Terrell. Let someone else borrow it and there you go. You can make a little money while watching episode episode six literally studies have shown that cars sitting idle and Garages Ninety five percent of the time so here's how the business breaks now so find someone who needs a car and apparently there are ten million users who say I actually want to use a turtle registered onto route then it finds someone who has because four hundred thousand people and I'm not one of these because I don't feel comfortable this but they're willing to share their car with these ten million four hundred thousand are registered on the APP and Alterra. Does it matches them and you can kind of see the connection here with icees tinder. It's a little bit tinder us. I actually take it back. They don't just match they also provide car insurance super import stranger bar your car without insurance then you're probably wondering because this is the key. How do they make money just like AIRBNB? They take a cut of the deal say like you're spending two hundred bucks to buy the car for a week. They're going to take ten percent now or something. Forty nine states get to enjoy this kind of a service one. Does the Empire State New York. They had an issue apparent with the insurance. My big question here is why didn't AIRBNB expand into car-sharing my big question. Here's why did they acquire trope because how how good would it be if you could get that house on Venice Beach in l. a. and it came with a car. It's a natural extension. It seems like a works too well so jack what's the takeaway for our buddies who are now UNICORNS over at Toronto. The same economic factors that drove AIRBNB and the GIG economy to thrive thrive can also cause other sharing things to thrive. Money's tight millennials have student debt. We like to buy expensive things we also want to do fun inexpensive instagram mobile stuff we might need extra cash and we might WANNA travel cheaper than a hotel heck has. has enabled these kinds of things. It's enabled ridesharing. It's enabled home sharing now. It's enabling get my car. Share car-sharing was inevitable in our opinion. We're wondering though what are the next things on the Sharing Economy Frontier Jack and I literally spent a disturbing portion of yesterday thrown this up on R._v.'s and like motor homes and trailers. That's already available on an APP called outdoors. We're thinking power. Tools have an option here because if you're not a chain saw. How often are you using that chainsaw if you have a chance? What are you doing with a chainsaw though but seriously lawnmowers you can share that right grills? You're using that maybe every other weekend maybe but you'd like to talk about it every day. How about this one ski? Parka makes Johnson who's using the ski goggles every they're they're lying. Idle Ninety nine point nine earned that next ticket by sharing your ski Gaza snacker knackers. We're real curious what you think is the next sharing economy really do this is like one of those conversations. You want to have in a car with your friends right now. We wish we're having it with you. Hit US up at Robin Hood Snacks. We want to hear Your Sharing Ideas Jackie whip the takeaways over there for US Amazon Prime Day is complete complete and the fly wheel is spinning mass rapidy other takeaway. We didn't mention lunchboxes or apparently in second-story net flicks actually lost bribers in the United States and we learned acquiring new customers is really expensive Ryan Howard said at the best third and final story tomorrow. A private company got a two hundred fifty million dollar investment from A._C.. A public come and I'm going to go back to Jack my board one other share option. We didn't even think about bowling bowling ball share mentioned Boeing while a lot of actually good names could come out of that now time for our snack factor today this one sent in by Skip Trauma Tana who we assume from Chicago and is a great listener snacks because he was connecting the dots. What's that movie with a Guy Mind a beautiful mind situation so we've talked about Lululemon which just opened a store in Lincoln Park Chicago? It's like an epic everything store right it turns out that space they took over used to be owned by another retail. dominator restoration heart right both are leading the retail back movement movement retail is in dying bad retails because they're both pushing epoch story highlight by skip the Russell Crowe of our whole snacks podcast now a couple of other key stories to keep in mind today the main one facebook survived day two of congressional rational testimony and honestly it looks like no politicians want libra. Now smackers loved having with this day can we we'll talk to you tomorrow. This is Jack and I own shares of Amazon and Lululemon the Robin Hood snacks podcast. You just heard reflects the opinions of only the hosts who are associated persons of robinhood financial policy and does not reflect the views of robinhood markets inc or any of its subsidiaries or affiliates. The podcast is for informational purposes only is not intended to serve as a recommendation.

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