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Bloomberg Radio New York
"christian horner" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Seen the peak in inflation, the data we're starting to soften in terms of activity. And the January indicators through the course of February really call that into question. And I think how has every incentive to keep these options open? And to keep assessing the incoming data to signal how close we are to the peaking policy rates. So I don't expect affinity forward guidance, but really again just underlying the sensitivity to the incoming data and the policies, these in a phase, which is highly responsive to incoming news. In your side of the business then, what does that mean for this trajectory of the dollar? So I think the way it's playing out in FX at the moment is a primarily through absolute rather than relative. Normally in FX, we focus on the relative stance of monetary policy. You relative growth prospects relative inflation. All of that matters relatively little at the moment. So what's driving our markets is the co movement of bond and equity prices. And the fact that higher bond yields typically are associated with weaker equities at the moment. And in that kind of environment, markets turn very what I would call dollar directional. Relatives matter relatively little. And when bonds and equities are selling off together, we tend to see the dollar rallying and vice versa. So whilst there is still this uncertainty over whether we can see the peak in inflation, whether we can see the peak in policy rates. And still the risk that bond and equity markets weakened together, then our biases towards a stronger dollar against the consensus which of course looks for a week at all. Okay, I mean, we thought that that the dominance king dollar story was going to change this year. That was a 2022 story, but actually you see that very much continuing. Not to the same degree that we saw in 2022. Where we had an asset market background, which was just unambiguously dollar positive. And I think things are more ambiguous now. And at some point it will be right to talk about the peak in inflation and the peaking bond yields peaking policy rates and all of that can go into reverse. But the way I would characterize markets now is we're not ready to make that call yet. So as such, we have a buyer towards a stronger dollar. But we traded more tactically than we did in 2022. I think this will be a year where there are not the clear trends that we had in 2022 to jump on and just roll with. And it's marketable as they have in January and February. The trade with more volatility and less in the way of trend? Given all of that then is it as simple as saying that continued dollar strength that you're saying will mean weaker Euro a week or pound? That's been the story for the last 12 months or so. That it's been dollar direction, which is completely dominated my market. And as I say, relatives have had a quite small role in driving returns and the big call and investors can lead you to make your dollar up or dollar down. And I think until we get a clear evidence that we're past the peak and inflation that is active as weakening and we can see the peak in policy rates, then that dollar directionality probably remains. Okay. Adam Cole, chief currency trash just at RBC capital markets, thank you so much for joining us on the program this morning. Come up next on Bloomberg daybreak. Europe, so we're going to bring you one of our key interviews with the Red Bull Formula One team principle that's Christian Horner about
Box of Neutrals
"christian horner" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
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The Autosport Podcast
"christian horner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"We've got Lewis Hamilton on the cover this week, celebrating ten years of driving from Mercedes. It's because they're available, and therefore there's more of that time, it's not necessarily going to have an immediate impact on popularity, but you can get messages across and you can do things like that. So I would suggest that plays a part as well. You said last year as well, the press conference and max was saying, no one knows the full story about what happened in Monaco and I'm really annoyed about the whole press stories that are going around in the media, and you said, well, tell us the story then, and we'll report it. You might not want to. That was inevitable. It's like, well, if we're not selling their whole story, max, what is the full story? Well, it's not fair. I don't want to say that. Let's talk about the fastest car in 2022 because you'd think we have been talking about that, but it wasn't. I think it was. I know what I know what care is getting at, but go and go. Ferrari technically the fastest car last year. You are boss for the date. Would you have made a change in management and got rid of bonato and bought Fred Vasser in? I'm going to quantify that by saying the fastest car over one lap. Not 9 in the races. And I probably need to edit my column before it goes to I'm hoping the market Simmons is doing that as we talk. That would be ideal. But yeah, listen, they produce a very fast car. A car capable of winning several races. They were struggling away, which is why I think they lost on a couple of occasions, but they had a very fast car. I personally think they should have kept binotto, but in a slightly different role, because coming back to my earlier point from an R&D standpoint. And the power unit standpoint, which is actually, let's not forget his background in the company. They did a superb job. You look at the PU that they had at alpha and has they all made a big step forward. And I think he had a lot to offer still to the team. I think from what I understand from various people at the team, he tried very, very hard to create a noble culture. You know, the old school Ferrari thing of right, you got this wrong. You're off on a Monday after a race. He wanted to get rid of that culture. And get people to work without fear that they're going to lose their jobs. Which is fine. But you still got to hold them accountable when they don't do that it's yours properly. And I think perhaps he's suffered the price for trying to protect all the people around him. And in the end, he's the one who's taken the blame for it. So yes, he has to show us some blame. Do I think he should have stayed at the team? I do. Could he have worked alongside Fred versio as one in charge of technical and the factory and the other in charge of sporting and track side, possibly, but we'll never find out. Is that how to run a modern Formula One team? No, but I think Ferrari is not a normal team. I think Ferrari is unique. And I think that culturally there are very different organizations. The people who work in the team are unlike any other team, not being funny, even geographically, right? AlphaTauri are the only other team based in Italy. I guess for half their teams based in bisto. So I think Ferrari is different. And having someone like pinata there who's been at the team for so long and understands the deep rooted cultural mindset of the workforce is beneficial. So if you look at his peers, Toto Wolff has a stake in the team at third or so whatever it is. So Christian Horner doesn't, I don't think has a stake in Red Bull, but has been there so long. No one's going to depose him. He answers to very few people. Ferrari is a really interesting case. It seems to me you've now got a year. If you're the boss, you probably got a year. That's very different to Jean Todd. How long did he get? When he first came in, that was a slow burn. Yeah, I think it is a bit different because I don't think throughout it in quite the crisis as they were in that 1992 93 era. You think they're in a really good place. They're in a good place. I'm not going to go that far. Because they did manage to lose last year's championship as much as I wanted. I completely agree with everything career and said, I wouldn't have gotten rid of Bernardo. I think having him on the technical side with all his experience and proven improvement improvement over the last two or three years, but I'm not convinced that Fred Vasser with all the experience can suddenly make them all brilliant strategy and fix all the things that may be all wrong. I'd love to see it. But I think they need a significant car advantage to beat Red Bull Mercedes overseas. Because I just don't think they're strategically sharp enough. They're always going to make mistakes. They're reliability. They need to sort out, like, I think they need to have maybe not quite FW 14 B levels. But they need to have a good few tents in hand, not because of the drivers. I think because of the way that the team is they just can't there were too many strategy errors. And we know that Red Bull and Mercedes ripple in particular actually are really sharp on strategy. So if it's neck and neck across the season, I think Red Bull beats for our way every time. Unless they get a rose Brown esque person on the pitfall, like they had, because actually when you go back to 1993, exactly. If you go back to 1990 2000, they were operationally the better team. I mean, they got Eddie Irvine into championship contention in a year where McLaren were miles in front in terms of pure pace. That was part of the operation side of the team. As some of its parts, the driver pairing is the best of the best. They've got the right drivers. They've got a great package. Alex, what do they have to do to win this year? Well, I think I'll go back to what I said in our live podcast ASI. I think a real big chunk of it is the reliability of the engine because we now know that they effectively from Austria to the summers like onwards. They turned it down. They couldn't run it for wacky Mexico. It was massively turned down because of the way their turbo works.
Past Gas
"christian horner" Discussed on Past Gas
"2017 and 2018 is really good. Yeah. 2017 and 2018. So much Red Bull will probably be. 2017, 2018 were disappointing years for Red Bull. Thanks to issues with the Renault power unit. Let me just get a little. Are you doing with your red bull? Dipping his finger in the Red Bull and rubbing it on his gums. Call it gummy. Legalize it. Both years, the team placed third in the constructors behind Mercedes and Ferrari, but there was hope in 2019 when Red Bull switched from Renault to Honda. The 2019 2019 transition from Renault to Honda was impressively smooth. Max won four grand prixs and more or less carried the team. Daniel had left the team in 2018 for Renault and both drivers that Horner pulled up, Pierre gasly and Alex Albon didn't make the impact the team was hoping for. I remember this part in drive to survive because he was very dramatic and he was like, I don't know what to do. He was like, I think I'm going to leave. And then just jumps in the ocean with his shoes on for like this 30 foot clip. By 20 20, after Alban only achieved two podium finishes all season, he was replaced by Sergio Pérez for the 2021 season. 2021 was a wild season as many of our listeners know. With the help of Perez, max won 11 of 22 races and brought Red Bull to their first driver's championship since 2013. We've talked a lot about that season a lot because it was super controversial. Not going to dig into it too much. Yeah, I stopped rooting for max and Red Bull because he treated his teammate like absolute trash. Well, that was last season. In 2021, the relationship was a lot better. Yes. But yes, he's done some bad. Sergio helped him block so much and helped him win the championship and when it came time for Sergio to get enough points to beat sher leclerc. And get second. Max is not there for him and said, no, I'm not going to let him piss. Yeah, so this season should be interesting with that dynamic kind of set in stone now. If you want to hear more about this upcoming season, make sure to listen to donut racing show on Wednesday. Gotta listen to it. I'm so excited to hear it. Let's do it. Designer. Loni mercy. Despite an early challenge by Ferrari, Red Bull dominated Formula One season in 2022. Again, teammate Sergio proved to be a fantastic supporter for max who slaughtered the field with 15 wins to retain the driver's crown. In the shadow of max's feet was the fact that Red Bull dethroned Mercedes after 8 straight constructors titles. Dear wasn't without its controversies, though. Red Bull was found to have engaged in team spending that exceeded the $145 million budget cap by 1.6% about $500,000. And though they're facing some penalties this year, they left a bad taste in the mouth of many fans. They tried to say that it was all like catering costs. Yeah. I'd like to see a half a $1 million worth of chicken Tandy. As you know, that is probably max's favorite food. Chicken tendies. I like butter sandwiches. Christian Horner had this to say about the controversy. We've always stuck by the principles that we're a race team here to go racing. Christian Horner said, after Verstappen locked his second straight F one championship with four races to go. When afraid to take difficult and bald decisions, we're not a corporately driven organization. We've always been independent in a little maverick. Which is kind of redundant because have you ever seen Tom Cruise? He is a little man. Christian Horner said Verstappen's second title was a beautiful tribute to Red Bull cofounder and owner Dietrich mateschitz who passed away on October 22nd, 2022. A misty eyed Horner said of his boss in close friend, quote he had a dream. Which was to have a Formula One team. He did that and in the end he had two. He gave us all an opportunity. He believed in us. He backed us, and this is for him. We are just tremendously grateful for everything he has done for us as individuals as a team. And we are going to celebrate his honor tonight. Energy goes on me. From Adrian newey to Sebastian Vettel to Max Verstappen to think that some of the most important racing figures of the last 50 years took a chance and stayed loyal to a company who started off with no racing credentials is pretty wide. As for Christian Horner, his 18 year run at Red Bull makes him the longest serving team principal in Formula One. He's led the team to 5th on the all time wins list with 92 victories only behind big boys, Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes, and Williams, all of whom have been around for over half a century. And he's married to gingerbread. Hashtag winning turns out he did want to be her lover, and he did get with her friends. I just want to give a quick shout out to caden Ellis and for making us law firm logo with the Harley badge. It's pretty great and I told him I'd give him a shout out. Hell yeah, good. Nice shout out to kaden. We got some fan mail this week. Hi Nolan Joe and James. I'm a 12 year old from Australia. And I've been watching donut media since 2018, which is like half their life. I can't wait for the next video or podcast you guys make. You guys are the best automotive channel. Thank you very much. And podcasts, thank you very much. Keep it up. I have one question for you all. What did you do before donut? Joe, haven't you? I was a chef for about 12 years and was desperately trying to get out of that kitchen. Joe and I met because we used to both do comedy. Improv and sketch comedy show did stand up. So that's what I did before donut. I was a comedian and an actor. That's it. A successful one too. You've been on a bunch of shows. Not successful enough, Joe. And I was in college. I needed an internship and donut. Gladly had me on board. And it was cool. And then now here we are. This is your first job. First career, I've had a lot of jobs before this, but first career job. Yeah. That's awesome. Worked in machine shop, worked in warehouse. Worked in. Vaughn's. You went to school for TV? Yeah, I did TV production was my thing, yeah. Well, the opposite and 2020 during the pandemic, kids
The Autosport Podcast
"christian horner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"That is really underestimated about max, like we talk about his amazing overtakes and how aggressive he can be and how sort of how well he dominates races. But his time management as well is so underrated. Now it's something I put Christian Horner after the race. It's a do you think that's kind of a missed part of his skill set that people don't quite realize how good he is. And he agrees he said, yeah, he said that if you could hear what he was doing in the car in terms of using all the different tools and stuff on the steering wheel to really manage his tires and every lap going back and forth with his race engineer GP and giving that feedback. Yeah, you're completely right God is you're kidding yourself if you think that in a time management race against Max Verstappen, you're going to win. I want to talk a little bit about what it's been like with Red Bull this weekend guys. You've both been in the paddock at various points. Sometimes the pen with all the other journalists sometimes you get to do the kind of written press conferences, which are a different vibe to the broadcast media. Obviously, we've had all of the Red Bull FIA fallout from their punishment for the cost cap. Luke, what's it been like around the Red Bull drivers around Christian this weekend? You mentioned on yesterday's podcast. You and Alex went for some barbecue, even though you vegetarian, but you said it still looked good. Last weekend, and you bumped into Max Verstappen, chilling out in a barbecue joint in Austin. What's the vibe been like around Red Bull since you've got to Mexico? Have they been cooperative with you? What's happening with the TV coverage as well? Because we haven't seen much of Red Bull on the telly. Yeah, it's been Christian Horner said it had been an emotional two weeks Red Bull and I think that's a very good way to summon up. Let's put it back to us and obviously the sad news about the maths shit's Red Bull founder passing away at the age of 78 on the Saturday and then obviously on the Sunday they had the high of winning the constructors championship and Verstappen getting that 13th win of the season. We come into this week. We had the FIA's ruling about the budget cap and the $7 million fine and the Tencent aerodynamic testing restriction for the next 12 months against Red Bull. We had a Christian Horner hold a press conference on Friday to talk about that. He called it a draconian penalty and outlined why Red Bull had basically been found to be in breach and the various exclusions and stuff that weren't fully considered. And then, yeah, we come into race day and there was the news overnight that Max Verstappen and Red Bull were boycotting Sky Sports F one's coverage because of comments made over the Austin weekend by one of skies reporters. And it's been a very up and down weekend and I must say, though, that the team has remained in really good spirits. Christian Horner was on very good form in the press conference. Sorry, the press briefing with us came and sat down and the first question was about sky, and he said, they want to talk about the race though. Like, come on, let's talk about that first. So we talked about the race and then we'd gone to sky and yeah, they ultimately they outlines max and talked about it in the press conference. He said that he was unhappy with the constant disrespect that he's faced and he said, you get to a point where it's just too much and you can't tolerate it anymore. The boycott has been against all of skies three main regionals, which is the UK, Germany, and Italy. They still carried some interviews with max after the race, but that was supplied by F one to sky as they do with all the broadcasters all over the world. And Christian horny talked about it and he said that ultimately they felt that an impartiality that needs to be had in journalism and in broadcasting and it's very, very true. And I think it's very important, I think, and for all the talk of British bias and things like that, you see put across social media and whatever. Ultimately, there does need to be sort of an understanding of, yeah, you've got to be impartial. The day that you're backing one driver over another, whatever, then that is, that does dangerous territory to be on as a journalist. And I think that ultimately the wording that the reporter used, he did not say at any point the Max Verstappen robbed Lewis Hamilton of the title or Red Bull robbed Hamilton of the title. But I still think that it maybe could have been worded a bit more delicately. And I think that the word robbed ultimately, that's a very loaded word. So yeah, I think Red Bull, they said, look, we want to make a point. What to make a stand and say that we're not going to accept that. Horner said that he thought Red Bull had become a bit of a cheap target for people and ultimately they want to be judged on what they do on track. And I think that yeah, it's not the first time that max is sort of made a bit of a stand like this with Netflix at the beginning of the year. He said, I'm not going to do any more interviews because you over sensationalized stuff. And max said, I'm a very down to earth guy. I'm a very real guy. Again, we bumped into him in a barbecue joint in Austin like any other person. And that was like, it was quite nice, just saying, oh, it's a two time world champion, just hanging out, having some barbecue. I don't know if he had a beer or not or whatever, but yeah, it's still like, and I get that. And I think that ultimately there's a fine line to be traded between the teams do want to give us access and everything. And they really have done that. I did an interview down this morning at a Red Bull with one of their chief engineers, and it was a good chat. And talking to the PI, he was like, yeah, we understand you guys, and we trust you guys and everything like that. And it's like that's nice to hear. And ultimately, I think the team for everything. They've been very understanding with us and they've been very open. Yeah, I think that it's been a tricky couple of weeks for them. I think the FIA ruling against them was, I think, yeah, that's going to be talked about for a long time. I think Christine Horner's explanation of some of it maybe didn't quite hold up in the way that it completely could have. I think he was in that press conference as well. And I could hear him sort of making a comment or two here or there. But on repeatable on the repeating podcast and of course, some of the reasoning, it was a bit like, nah, it doesn't really add up to be honest, but yeah, ultimately, they've come away with another win and Red Bull are right now. I think we're probably witnessing the most dominant single season by a Formula One driver. Maybe in the history of the sport. There is an impressive to watch. What's been your reading of kind of Red Bull of almost come out, fighting, haven't they? It reminds me a little bit of trying to think of other examples, a bit like when Mourinho was dominating at Chelsea. And he kind of had this war room mentality where he closed down and everyone else was the enemy. Now, in Formula One, which is a cauldron anyway, you can't escape that because everyone's on top of each other. So it is a little bit gladiatorial at times. But it seems like rather than be sheepish or hold a head down Red Bull, which does seem to be their natural kind of style anyway.
Box of Neutrals
"christian horner" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"Ring Gerald my program. Got it. Smoking your fat crap. It was, it was very enjoyable to say because then he was also asked the following day on Saturday night, you know, because Christian art accusing him of being defamatory, which I think. I did enjoy the very glad you noticed that the flammatory 'cause I went I thought surely surely everybody heard the flaming because there's nothing more embarrassing when you're making impassioned state rent. You pent up with raging, doing your best, not to sort of lose your call, but you sort of merge your words together. Lord knows I do this enough unboxing neutrals every week. So I can not wait to, I think, you know what? I think we're going to claim before, you know, bloody WTF one and anyone else who does a bloody F one podcast clutch on clutch onto it. I'm going to go with it's a box of neutrals term the flammatory. No copyright intended. Yes, you must have woken up on Saturday morning Christian Horner, went for a run, these knees felt unusually good. And I was thinking about the how to inflammatory Toto Wolff's words that were the day before. But he threatened legal, I know he didn't threaten legal action. He threatened to take whatever actions were required when quick nudge nudge. And then I like trying to wolf was asked about this in the next day and he said, oh, it's not for team principal to be talking about this. Having absolutely rinsed him in the media the day before, but it really got around that opportunity. But this is, it is genuinely interesting because it's going to be the first really big test of the cost capital. Assuming, of course, all these rooms end up being through, which they almost certainly have. Everyone try to have called it an open secret, which does make you wonder why everyone seems to know what everyone else is. But anyway, it's going to be a massive test because the rival teams, okay, they're all looking for an advantage over Red Bull. We're talking specifically about Ferrari and Mercedes here. But they are right to say, if Red Bull, let's say even 5% over under whatever 5% is about 7 million U.S. dollars, which is worth a lot of pounds. Which is the virus of money Red Bull spending. That does have not only a material performance benefit for last year when they spent that extra money. But also last year they were developing this year's car, that was a big project. And this year, that means they sort of got that 10 millions that are knocking on. There's been these rumors for quite a while Red Bull has been developing a lightweight chassis weights being such a big talking point in performance. This year, they've apparently not going to introduce it this year, but if they have it next year, then suddenly you're talking about performance gains that knock on over the course of three years from a potentially overspending the budget couple last year, not to mention that whatever they did last year, there was a mistake or deliberately cooking the books as Peter McKinney said, they might have been doing it again this year. Maybe it's a completely honest mistake, but using that financial methodology, I don't know. I don't work for price waterhouse papers. But potentially, you know, it's a really long running quite significant thing, so they're calling for really quite harsh sanctions. In all seriousness, the significance of it and I'm amazed that it's happened so early as well. It happened immediately. This is fantastic. Yeah, the first year of it all and it's all gone horribly wrong for someone potentially potentially. Yeah. I'm equally bemusing. I'm equally bemused to how it got out, that this is apparently in an open secret. That put that aside for now. But if someone were called out, it is up there, and so I made a good point. It's kind of a different in the sense because you have this advantage. And you can use it. You shouldn't be using it, but you still choose to do it. It is kind of the same thing because it kind of defeats the purpose of why this is bad and why we have a cap. In the first place, but it's more the thing that really got me is how this can be spread out over multiple seasons. So it's not a case of we spend a little bit over in 2022. We'll take it here and we'll sort of say sorry and move on because it's a case of, well, impacts you before impacts your current this season and impact the one that you have. Next season because you're still likely doing it as well. It's not how you get around the weather. We want to keep it interesting because I don't know about you. I kind of don't like this. Sort of warfare. I'm a little bit over it. I'm a little bit over the war games and the sort of the shit flinging over the fence between Mercedes and Red Bull. I'm a little bit dumb with it because it's going to get it's going to get ugly for one of them because the more starting to pivot in glass houses, the more hydroponic setups you're going to discover and do electrical mate is going to be inspected. So you better off just keeping sure about it. So yeah, so I'm a little bit over it, but also too. It's genuinely fascinating to say what happens in and what the goal is because if it's an egregious breach, then yeah, well, the rules of the rules you saw are not for them. You can't just go, oh, well, if you penalize us, we're going to pack up our bags and go, because it could be my biggest concern is that this could be someone's VW diesel gate moment. This could be someone's Christ out of the sport, which would be a quite frankly, a disaster for F one, if that would have happened, but we need to sort of uphold the rules as well. So this is a, it's not very, it's not very simple. It's not very clear cut straight down the line. Yeah, it's a good analogy to make actually in the sense that if it is, this is what we obviously don't know the details yet, because we'll get more information on Wednesday. But if it were a straight up like bad faith for each, like Red Bull would just push the rules away too much.
The Autosport Podcast
"christian horner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"I don't know what the inner talkings are, but it does seem like even today, and with the choice radio messages that we got played out to us over the world feed, they're just seems to be this sense of no one knowing what's going on. No one being clear, no one being on the same page. And they're just being this real sense of despondency, which you're not going to be able to come back from that. Even though Mercedes have been knocked off their pedestal, you still get that same sense that everybody is team Mercedes. Everybody is fighting for everything. And almost their failure together is bringing them closer together. It's that sense that I feel they're missing. They're missing clear leadership direction, vision, the cohesion that a team operating at this level needs to have if it wants to win championships. Maybe they need to get a performance coach going in and teaching them all about legacy. Maybe toto wolf needs to learn what his book. Just if you will. Yeah, I need a Formula One team principal book club. I would attend. That would be a great. But yeah, I think that's kind of what is missing. And there's obviously been a lot of questions about bonato, where they, but that's been following him ever since he took the job. As to whether he actually is a solid team leader. Or actually if he's better being more of a technical director, which was where he was before he took on the team principal role. And obviously things were put in place Ferrari over the years in terms of taking the technical stuff away from him because he was still involved in it so that he could focus on the management side. But a team is only as good as its leader. And at this point in time, there are still those question marks there. And I mean, what else is what else is bonato going to come out and say? After that, what is he going to say? I don't want to come across like all team principles, CEOs, whatever role they play in it. Need to be some sort of desk thumping Neanderthal that just shouts. And I'm not suggesting that, but you look at when Sergio Pérez got a terrible virtual safety car restart. And let's face it, he didn't mess that up, and George Russell got the jump on him, and he lost a place. And after the race, Christian Horner's like, I don't know, maybe Mercedes are getting different FIA radio messages. Like, that's so preposterous, but that's the length that he'll go to. Sort of divert the attention away from our driver messed up. With something as crazy as hang on a minute, we're getting different information. Like, of course, that's not true, but that's why Christian so brilliant at that kind of media game that he plays and the same with Toto Wolff as well, always defending his. There just seems to be with Ferrari. Yes, but they put the wrong tires on in qualifying and then they're like, oh yeah, on the radio, like, oh yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, no, we got that. We got that wrong, sorry. It's just not good enough, is it? I mean, you know, Ferrari do not deserve to win anything this year. They do not deserve to win anything. They've been sloppy. They've made too many mistakes. Regardless of how much we want a competitive season, fact is they don't deserve it. So it's harsh. I don't want to be sat here saying this, but you can not win. I mean, I would stop watching Formula One if a sloppy team like that could win a championship. Because it's just not, it's not why we watch Formula One, right? This is the Pinnacle of motor sport. Maybe I've come off the wrong side of the bed after watching the race or something, but it's just, I'm just tired of it now. I'm sure everybody is. I'm sure Ferrari are tired of it. I'm sure, you know, as much as I'm sure Red Bull are loving the fact that they're cruising to. Titles, not just the driver's title, but easily the constructor's title too. It's going to be like, we do want competition a little bit of competition. It's why we go out and race, right? People don't just go out there, have a lovely Sunday drive. Their competitors. So yeah, I think it is sad. I had such high hopes for Ferrari. They did come out with an incredible car considering where they had been over the past few years. And. Something something has to give. And what I'm not suggesting that that is bonato out, I'm not suggesting that that is massive shake ups, but something has to change. There are clearly gaps. And things that aren't quite right there, and they're going to have to get on top of them in one in one way or another. And there will be pressure at Ferrari, and you got the national, you got the press. You got gazetta dello sport and there will be huge media pressure. And fan pressure on Ferrari as well. Luke, just fill us in with what happened with the attempt at the fastest lap. Can you explain that to the listeners? So with two laps to go Ferrari said, sharp, we're going to bring you in. We're going to give you a set of softs and let's go for the fastest lap. There was a bit of back and forth on the radio leclerc saying. Be sure you want to do this and yeah, again, that uncertainty is just sort of spoke about. It doesn't seem clear. And in the end, they went for it. Look how I came out of the pit. They always knew it was going to be quite tight with the Alonso. He came out and managed to get
Box of Neutrals
"christian horner" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"The videotaping, if you will. A meeting of the principals, when Tara wolf had a bit of a blow up at the other team principles about them all playing games and, you know, he is the only one taking it seriously to safety, even though obviously he has the most benefit from his car. It's complicated issue admittedly. And then Christian Horner had a crack at him saying he's just doing it for the cameras and they got into an argument and maybe he was just doing from the cameras because then after that he ordered pumpernickel bread that no one understood why. It was all very enjoyable for the cameras, but there's clearly a lot of angst here. And I think that's really interesting. I think we talked a little bit about last week, but there's the drivers with one position, something with other positions, same principles as other positions, the FI have the safety thing, Formula One hasn't really said what they think yet, but they'll have to wait at some point if the rules are going to be changed. What can they do? Well, they can limit. This is what the FIA saying. They measured the bouncing this week, and they're going to decide how much bouncing is appropriate. And G level to GeForce terms. Okay. Because apparently some of the bouncing was surprisingly high G force, like really quite which is why there was this idea of micro captions, whatever. The frequency of the bouncing, and the idea is that they'll set a limit. The maximum amount of bouncing. And then you have to make your car safe by being under that limit. But and as to be fair, the Christian Horner often he's being difficult. I think it's for the same. But he did raise a good point. I think some other team principals did as well. It's like, well, you might say your car up for the safe or whatever. It doesn't bounce. But then if the wind blows in the different directions, suddenly you're generating different amount of down force, the car will be bouncing differently. Or it rains in the suspension settings are no longer appropriate, or it was riding, and it's not anymore, or whatever. It is pretty complicated. So to be fair to them, I think they've also got a point in saying that because I think nearby is stepping in and doing the right thing. I think this is an issue as much as yes, you can also argue, well, just raise the ride height, there'll be no problem. It's not how it works. Even the drivers have come out and said, if the engineers say you can raise their eye how to go faster they'll also go faster, even though they know it's bad for them. Yes. So someone needs to step in and that's the FIA's job. And I fully support that. But it is a complicated one to do properly, I guess. Yeah, exactly. If we can't trust private enterprise with our electricity, how can we trust how can we trust liberal library again? Yeah, this is a case that's far beyond, I think, the scope of any of these people. You just need one sort of rule maker to just go, well, now this is clearly all sorted out civilly. Within therefore, have to give you the medicine in terms of what we need. Because can you imagine, you mentioned, say, imagine if you exhumed, oh, that's already happened. If you brought back to life, I don't know. What's the driver's diet of natural causes? So it's not a lot. Just someone who died of old fulfilling age, and showed them Formula One in the year 2022. Yes. And yes, they would be, that would be standard. It's like, well, the production values have lifted considerably. Since you know. Since pith made in the little rooster in watermark on the top right. And you just go, okay, so there's this. What's this Paul physics? Cars are bouncing around. Back in our day, we didn't have seat belts. It would be fun out of the vehicle. We wanted to. And then you then go, ah, but also we've decided to put a rule in terms of how many times your car can bounce. And the level of bouncing can take. And if you exceed that limit, then probably therefore disqualified. So imagine if you then go to the store and I like how bounced two G's over ten times in the race. So therefore car's illegal. Crooked crooked fixed rice. Just throw them out. Ben, whoever's banned Ferrari for ten 20 years for illegally poor per se. It's just crazy. That's not a way to deal with it. It's clearly an issue where it's just very uncomfortable and bizarrely something that never got accounted for. And this is why it's almost like, well, you need a band aid fixed for now, but we need to look at a solution for 2023 where this just doesn't call again. Capped bouncing 3%. Which is the way to do it. Save your back. 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The Autosport Podcast
"christian horner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"By the way, ever can't be watching it or listening to it if you want to follow that coverage online. I'm sure lots of people listening know about our live section, we've done it for years, but it's got a legendary, but depending on who's staffing it each weekend depends on the vibe that you get if JBL is doing it a bit fantastic. He's on it for the race, so yeah, don't worry that there will be the fun will be there. I always recommend you check it out. What's the feeling amongst you and your colleagues that were doing that live coverage today for us? Is that Mercedes pay real or are they benefiting because maybe they're a little more dialed in on an early track? What do you think? I think the pace is definitely there. But I do also think there's plenty more to come from the likes Ferrari and Red Bull. Obviously we saw in FP two color science had a pretty costly crash fairly early into the session and that's one car down in terms of Ferraris, FP two practice running, which is ever so vital when it comes to the rest of the weekend, given its roughly the representative conditions of what they should fit face, sorry in the qualifying them in the race. And equally, max Stafford basically was a bystander in FP two with his chains of gearbox in time for FP two he missed the start of that, but then as he got out on track, basically did an out lap. And they are blaming a hydraulics issue with the rear of the car, which briefly set the rear of the car on fire for Verstappen. And he couldn't steer, which was quite not ideal situation to be in. But yeah, he didn't even set a lap time, so he effectively missed the session. Christian Horner said, yeah, at the end of the day, he's done about 5 times lapse. Now they were on the pace with those time. That's but they are still behind the curve. Thankfully, obviously, for Red Bull air Perry, who had a full day, but did have a couple of spins himself, and then obviously in Ferrari leclerc had a full day of running. So they've got data to run on compared to compared to having nothing. But I would say I would be confident to predict a three way fight between Ferrari Mercedes and Red Bull this weekend, just given the factors that the all three teams are currently facing. Looking back at my notebook right now, the difference in time between the two sessions. So leclerc topped FP one on a one 31 O 9 8. And yeah, there was quite a big time difference actually, a one 29 9 for George Russell. And Verstappen was third in FP one. He did put in a one 31.2. And so he was quick, but yeah, as you say, one one lap in after having that gearbox changed that precautionary gearbox change. I wonder if that's going to frustrate the team because they didn't need to. He had that brush with the wall in the first practice session and they didn't want to end up sitting out the session and missing out on a load of laps, so they ended up doing a precautionary gearbox change, one of 6 gearboxes the teams get to use in 2022 before they face any penalties. And of course he did benefit from that 12 minute stoppage after science hit the hit the wall. And so they kind of lucked in there. Again, a little bit lucky that it was so disrupted, but on the other hand, you at least want your other car and in Red Bull's case, it was Jekyll's car and in Ferrari's case it was leclerc's car. You want the other car to get a ton of running in and get that data, which again nobody really really did. So max definitely on the back foot going into FP three tomorrow morning, so yes, we are back to not being a sprint race weekend. We're back to the normal. The normal format. He seemed incredibly frustrated, but that entirely understandable. In terms of Mercedes last word on them, George Russell, and what's your feeling on how the drivers have been approaching have you seen any of the driver quotes pre or post today's action? Because my impression and correct me if I'm wrong is that George has managed to kind of keep his head up a little more whereas Lewis, someone who's been fighting for world championships forever. Seems to the ultimate in having such a strong mental game, like all top sports people are. He seemed to be more pessimistic in terms of how quickly they could fix things. George, the Newbie and the team. Now the bright kind of fresh face. He seemed, what was your reading of how those two drivers in Mercedes are attacking this weekend? Yeah, I would definitely say it's a combination of that sort of mentality that's been talked a lot about and also just their general situation coming into it. And sorry on top of that, Brussels are very, very good driver. I feel like that factor is somewhat being underplayed. Yes, he hasn't obviously this is what is fourth or 5th race as a Mercedes driver full time after replacing Bottas, but yeah, he was always basically dubbed a world champion of the future. So talent levels are certainly there. Around disputed, but you're right, the mentality, the approach to it, generally the car feels like it's more in Russell sort of operating window at the moment, that's not to say Hamilton can't get on top of it and then maybe sort of his being a bit more bogged down by the problems he's had. But yes, Russell is definitely on the front foot still if you were to compare to the teammates and we can see that in the timings just in two practice sessions we've had here. But I would sort of write Lewis Hamilton off at your own peril. We've seen that many times before. And I do think it is a case of him also finding that sort of set up sweet spot. It was quite a poignant thing that was made at the end of the M and a race with total war for apologizing to Hamilton about the car, but almost conveniently forgetting that his other driver Russell finished fourth in the same race. Now yeah, I do believe that if they're both fine to sweet spot with Mercedes, then they will be much much closer and that's sort of coming to truth in Miami a little bit. But we've got a long way to go. So I would say it's a lot of small reasons. Russell's currently got the edge, but there's no reason why they can't be sort of fighting toad's toe as the season goes on. And Miami's Miami looks a little bit of an art outlet at the moment. So this could throw up some unexpected results anyway..
Analog(ue)
"christian horner" Discussed on Analog(ue)
"Mike I've got great news. I'm really confident at this time. It really is. I'm really sure, though. I'm like super duper short for realsies. The next season of drives to survive is starting, what did we say, March 11? Is that right? I don't even know the date. How can you March 11? Make such a big thing out of this and then not know the date. I actually written there in the document. It says 11 March. So your bad cop this episode, I see how it is. Fair. So yeah, so drive to survive if you're new here. It's the Netflix documentary show that covers the prior season of Formula One and this prior season was a doozy. It was a great season. I don't know if we spoken about us or not. I don't remember, but did you know that max is not participating in at all in charge to survive this year? Oh, I think you did mention that and I had completely forgotten about that. That's right. Oh, that's going to be kind of crummy. He said, the previous season has made him out to look like a villain. And he does come across as a villain. So if he feels like he's being misrepresented, then maybe I would understand why he didn't want to be in it. I mean, look, a long time listeners to show them that I have no love for max for snapping anyway. So I don't think there's going to be any real particular thing. There is something funny to me that far as I can tell, he's the only person that has said this, which is, I don't know, that's just funny to me. Everyone else is fine with it. But he says that all they make me like a villain. What makes you the odd one out there maybe? I don't know. I don't know. Or at least in the chat. Maybe he shouldn't be a villain. That's exactly what I was going to say. Molly's can get away with it, right? So Molly's can say it because Mario is from the Netherlands, so if Molly says it's true. Yeah, see, if you don't want to sound or be portrayed as a jerk, here's a novel idea of max. Maybe don't be a jerk. Maybe that's the first step. I have no doubt. This is like any kind of documentary thing or whatever. Your words will be taken out of context. Absolutely. That is just how these things go. That's what your participation. But there is it is a shame I will say because he was the world champion. Like not so much because obviously I would love to hear his side rather than just Christian Horner talking about it, right? Like when the talk because obviously there's going to be a lot of stuff about him and Louis, right? There's some clips in the trailer that seem to indicate Lewis talking about a bit of rivalry kind of thing. Who knows what that's from or when that was done or whatever, right? What point in the season that was said? But he is the world champion, and I think it's a shame that we're not going to get any kind of one on one interview with him about his thoughts on the season. I actually think that that is a shame. I agree wholeheartedly. Whether you Mike or you collective people or you listener are happy or sad about the result of the season, I still think it was a season for the ages. Now, admittedly, I've only been following for a couple of years. But from everything I've understood, it was a really tremendous season. Well, you know, people in the sport called it the best season the whole time. Exactly. So I mean, I feel like, yes, the ending, I don't want to re litigate that. But the ending was crummy, no matter how you slice it. How much I want to relive any of it, but we'll see. That's fair. But yeah, I don't know. Didn't Mercedes wasn't Mercedes too cool for school for like the first season of tried to survive, Mercedes and Ferrari. Yeah, yeah, and then they all came crawling. It made sense, though. Because it was like they don't need that and they didn't know what it was going to be. And then it seemed to be good for the sports where everyone got on board. That made sense to me. I had no issue with that in the beginning. The two established well-known players. They have everyone has their own story to tell. And if you're Mercedes, your Ferrari, you don't need anyone to tell your story. You can do a good enough job on your own. But I understand that then it's like, oh no wait, this is good for the entire sport will all be involved in this, and now they are. I'm so, so excited for the start of the season. I can not wait, man. Can not wait. Yeah, I'm very excited for the start of the F one season. And I'm excited to see this recap. I am not excited for Christian Horner, who is a man that loves the sound of his own voice more than any man who has ever lived except maybe Trump. Christian Horner loves Christian Horner. And you know, since I can't talk to max, Christian will operate as max's proxy in, oh God, I'm just not looking forward to that at all. Yeah, well, this is what it's going to be. They got my favorite thing of the entire season though when toto smash the headset. That's in the trailer. It looks like they've got some.
Strong Opinion Sports
"christian horner" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"This moment, and I can't speak for Mercedes fans. I would imagine Mercedes fans felt the same way. Whether you were whether your heart jumped 'cause you were happy or because you were furious and angry. Don't tell me you didn't watch the end of the Formula One season. That final lap and felt moved emotionally in one direction. Oh, my goodness, dude. I have not felt my heart was pounding. I was tingling. I was like, literally just like, this is amazing. What's happening? I think a lot of it was because of my it's a roller coaster Russians. You watch max, he didn't have the pace to be Lewis, and I saw a great I can't remember who the guy's name is. He makes these funny memes. Impersonates Christian Horner. And he said, well, we didn't have the pace or the basically like nothing worked in favor for Red Bull and they still won. I'm picturing there's some guy look up ESPN F one on Instagram. They repost a guy who does like F one impressions and he is amazing. Let me look at it. I want to find his name because he is fantastic. I don't really care. I'll cut this out at what I'm looking, but I want to find this. This happened. Louis..
The Autosport Podcast
"christian horner" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"I think it was kind of a, let's just send it and see. But I can't decide. I think the thing that was, I guess, a bit of a confusion was the fact that how to then took off over the runoff area. And seems just zoom off down into the distance, which obviously the FIA then told him to give up, but Red Bull didn't think that was enough. So they were very, very adamant that he should be penalized for gaining a massive advantage by going off track. As we've come to expect with max this season as we've seen very aggressive very much that I'm going for this place. Lewis did have to be a back out to avoid the collision. The reaction from I thought that was very interesting from lots of racing drivers on Twitter especially was why isn't there gravel there? Why do you put gravel on the outside of the corner? Why isn't that a thing? Because otherwise then Hamilton can't just sort of take the run of her and cut as he did and all of that. Yeah, I agree Jess. It was very, very bold line. I thought it was very, very aggressive by max. The ultimately, he did make the corner with his left front wheel was just inside the white line still, but on the right hand side of the car, that was beyond the white line, but one in is that's fine. And it was like, yeah, it was bold, really, really bold, but exciting as well, and that's what we've come to expect from max this season. I think that, yeah, Hamilton, yeah, he look, he took the evasive action, but I think it was very, very similar to what we saw in what we saw in Jeddah when Verstappen did sort of basically send it and really really force him the point and in that instance max was told to give up the position he had to do that for the red flag restarts. So I think there are some similarities there. Yeah, but it was one hell of a movie. In the moment he hit he hit the brakes and you saw that he was pointing down the inside, I thought, oh no, don't end it like this, like what what's going to happen here? And in the end, it was actually, yeah, incredible that he got his stops in time. He thought he was ahead a really bold move by max as we've come to expect all season. Yeah, very, very borderline. I think we were very shocked at the stewards didn't want to investigate it. Yeah, even and massi did say Sue John from Willie over the radio. They looked at it, which is kind of like a, it's not an official investigation or anything. But yeah, they looked at it and they were they were happy with war Hamilton had done and that he didn't, he gave back the time he gained by taking to the runoff area as he did, but yeah, again, it does raise questions about consistency, which is the wider issue ongoing through the season. And I think there had the race ended with Hamilton winning the championship and perhaps we'd not have that late save to call on everything. Then yeah, I think Red Bull and Christian Horner and co would have been asking some serious questions, saying, well, what is consistency? Why wasn't that true to the same way that Maxwell's India? So yeah, but then you can also argue the opposite and say that, well, Lois has to take evasive action, otherwise there would have been a crash between them. So yeah, very, very bold line. Now after that, of course, the race continued, gap started to build. We have the pet stops and then we had Lewis Hamilton coming up against cheko. That was a treat to watch in terms of racing. I mean, it was absolutely fantastic. It is what we love to see the wheel tour action. Jess, I know you were a huge fan of it. What were you of thought to me? How are you feeling as you're watching that? Because everyone I was with was like on the edge of their seat, it's literally like, oh my God, oh my God, what's going to happen? In a way, it's made me angry at checkout. And not because he held up angry because I've wanted to see that. Consistently. Like, genuinely, like, I was rude for you. Like, why did you like me to show that like the whole time? That was magic. I have never seen apart many the only the time was when he won the cigar Grand Prix. His first win. That was when we saw.
Box of Neutrals
"christian horner" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"Your balls will thank you. Only two races to go in Formula One for 2021. We're getting very close now. Yes. I was excited. He's pumped. He's absolutely pumped. Probably as well because he's still in the lead. At least for now. But two years ago, one week off. This weekend, which is very exciting to have finally a bit of a break to breathe to understand what's happened in the last couple of rams, maybe catch up on the highlights, if you will. A break, and when we come back another bright quick today, we're getting through them today, aren't we? Absolutely locking them up. That makes sense sick out of there. Yeah, me. There we go. It's an action packed stuff. But let's start with Lewis Hamilton because he won this series. Yes. People don't use that so often anymore, do they? No, yeah, it's kind of gone out of fashion. Maybe like sort of like a two cool of an uncle and say, no, no, no, just call me. It's called me so Louis of bothering Tim or whatever. That's lord to get 90 attention. But I don't know. People on Twitter will just say so little tax haven. But yeah, this is well I will admit, I did catch the 7 minute and two second highlights real today. On a tram. And we'll pass outward part two. Very lush. I should have done a live stream, but no one would have a kid anyway 'cause it's just you know built. There's a couple of ducks everywhere. It's heels. People having lunch. Yep. Well, probably is a few start live streaming in Melbourne. People think that you are right. Independent journalists. Of course. Unwanted attention is crucially. But yeah, it was my point. But yeah, no. It looks okay, from what I saw. Everyone was a bit nervous that I think about the fact that this is a primarily used for moto JP kind of circuit, but it looked in the timing from what I saw. A lot of punctures. From what I could gather, but I'm telling you, just all weekend, Mercedes, again, just in classic Mercedes style, just kept their cool kept their composure in amongst sort of vexatious litigation and sort of the lack of, I guess harmony between Red Bull and Mercedes. They just kept their head heads high. And yet again, Christian Horner has come out with more and more paths. And so they're the ones looking probably nervous at this point. I'll tell you it wakes a long time in Formula One, and you know what? I think it's advantage Hamilton Mercedes here on in to tell you the truth. I think the same way. Red Bull's cooked. All right. In this stage. I'm sure we'll have a different opinion until you wakes when max wins. The Grand Prix Hamilton has a connection because probably Netflix is filming the Saturday right in Grand Prix. But yeah, I don't know. I just feel like Red Bull a little bit more nervous than perhaps I would like at this point of the season. I don't think the handling it too well. A 100% feels that way and it's just the whole it's really funny, isn't it? Because Christian Horner will talk a little bit about old mate Horner and his interactions with total later on. Boss, all he does now is go on the attack and accuse toto wolf of not handling the pressure. And, you know, I don't want to sound like I mean, primary school, but it does seem like it takes one to no one in this situation, doesn't it? Yeah, like I've said before. He's a very good leader of the opposition. You're very good at saying, oh, well, they're no good. Yes. You don't have any policies of your own, you know? Kind of not standing for anything. You just like, oh, well, that shit. I don't have a an alternative as to why we're any better. So they just kind of throwing the shit over the fence for lack of a better phrase and hoping it sticks whereas but I think it's yeah, it's not working out too well. I think what Christian Horner got to please explain about. Talking about Marshalls and the yellow flag. Incident during rules of qualifying was where the double wired yellow situation, but, you know, the flags are the primary points of communication, the stuff on the dash in the light to kind of just do it. You got to supplement the pay attention. Exactly. You can't be relying on your car's JPS to tell you what the speed limit is. Yes. And I know that and it cost me $269 once filed to update. It is a problem. You gotta look, you must always look before you change lanes, don't rely on those little lights on the mirror at sick. No, they're not good. They're no good at all. It was a difficult weekend for Red Bull that sense. And I wonder how much as well. You know, there's the pressure of the fact that Lewis Hamilton is on a great run of form at the moment. Ever since he rocked up in Brazil pretty much, he's been absolutely fired up. Total wolf called him a superhero, which was bordering on the fan fiction in my opinion, but that's, you know, he's entitled to do that. He's the boss. But it's also the fact that coming into these three weekends, because we've just ended a triple hit up with something we probably should reflect on spending a lot of racing at some pretty cool. I haven't noticed. I couldn't tell the difference. Often tell you the truth, but there we go. That's a planet rob before. There we go. But of these three races, the expectation was and grounded the cause of being very close so you don't expect so much. But the expectation was that Red Bull would be the better car or all three of them. And it was certainly true in Mexico. Far and away the best car. But in Brazil, we know that while the Mercedes car was very quick, but Hamilton smacked it out of the park, and again this weekend, Mercedes had the upper hand, but again, Hamilton was the difference because it was stopping qualified second, let's not forget a hit of Valtteri Bottas. Before the penalties of course, there has been the Mercedes has been just quick enough to enable Hamilton to, I guess capitalize on the form he's enjoying. And that's making the difference. It's not just the car as much as Christian Horner desperately wants to make it happen. It is also that Hamilton's just found himself this great place where he is able to make the difference..
Box of Neutrals
"christian horner" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"Add that to the eyelid coverage. It's not good. I can't remember what I was saying before this, but it was it was a good race. The needle if you like between the teams now, I think is what is really interesting because they were almost there guys. Tens of this race was, there was not heaps of action. It was a little bit of action enough action. And we can talk about the staff and Hamilton a little bit later on. I mean, they are fighting for the championship. But the battle now between toto wolf and Christian Horner fields like it's gotten angry this week on full nuclear. Yes, it does it really does. And I know some of it for toto wolf is actually just general rage of the world because of all the penalties Mercedes guard. He was very unhappy the stewards and scrutiny dealt with that rewind. He feels like it should have been given a chance to fix it rather than just penalized he says he's sort of the way it should have been done, and that's up for debate, I guess, but I think it's also there's got to be this degree of Christian horn and now turning up to every rights and pretty much just accusing toto wolf of cheating every week. Which is not, you know, it's not that it's not good. No, Christian Horner is just enjoying despite the fact if we used political power on here. I guess the team in charge at the front of the queue. They have all the seats in the House at the moment to make orders, but exactly like an opposition leader. All these people is preparing whatever anything Toto Wolff says. Yeah, that's just take a life out of the right and don't worry about it. Just get on with it. Yeah, and I think I read a piece somewhere where total wolf literally just sort of went to the policy is at the window between all the other. I think that went out a long time ago, so I feel like he's a little bit you know Jim Wiley with the very not line news. All right, well, because I feel like that happened months ago. Any deployment is going out the window in Formula One. But quite frankly, so why we like it. Just project pit lane was grice and old, but I've already forgotten about that. A lot of other countries have forgotten about that. Maybe the variation that we raced on over the weekend was kind of forgotten about. So it's a Formula One of arguing of ald, which is, which is what we want to see because this is building up to be one of the great crescendo to world championship season. And it's exactly what we want. So if deployment sees the victim in all this Bondi mate. It's okay. No one likes to diplomacy anyway. I am really interested to see where this is going to end up because I do like to come back to Christian Horner. He's been saying this for a while. In fact, almost all season he's been implying. Never using the word cheating, but implying that Mercedes is breaking the rules. And in fact, they were reportedly at the steward's office or Scrooge engineering earlier in the weekend. I wouldn't pee on you if your teeth were on fire. Oh, that was a bit much. What's going on there?.
Sports? with Katie Nolan
"christian horner" Discussed on Sports? with Katie Nolan
"Lose since imagine if they told basketball players they couldn't wear compression gear underneath their uniforms and be weird. You'd be like what are you. Who cares why does it matter to you. I remember when i was running. I ran cross country for one year and the coach claimed that. I wasn't allowed to wear like i'd have a cutoff shirt. Underneath the crappy cost countries that you had to wear and he was like you're not allowed to wear underneath. I'm like says the judges first of all. I'm not gonna be finishing at any of those spots that they're going to be concerned about anything that i broke because they're not worried about light. Don't worry about it. Nobody's watching t. Shirt into the pool. Folks got cut off. But he's like. I can see the color underneath and it's not our team. It's inside out they're gonna be okay. Yeah did you get kicked out. I always wore because what. I wasn't like finish winning. Where they're like. Oh broke a rule there like he didn't die. Imagine if you want and then they took it away from you. But i know pointed. I ever imagine if i was going to win across country. That's fair. I guess i feel like there is more. I got all these bookmarks when we decided we were going to do it. Thursday podcast tuesday pockets and a thursday. I got all these bookmarks. But i do have a reason for you to watch Oh let's hear it. Oh this is the biggest story of the podcast. This is what i was saying. Was the big reveal so the red bowl way before you reveal it. I found the other thing i wanted to talk about. There's a i saw screen-grabbed on the internet from a baseball game. Wish i could tell you which baseball game it was. It looks like it's the white sox. But i don't know who they're playing. Where the jumbotron shows. Congratulations brendan and nick on your divorce. And i just wanna say that is what. This pod advocate lower ballpark divorce. Celebrations are much cooler than ballpark engagements. I wanna see you celebrate walking away from something. That wasn't right for you. More than i want to see you making a mistake in front of all of my question is did one of those people as a friend messing with his buddy. Yeah was it like a joint thing where they're like. Hey we just got divorced but this would be funny if we throw it up buddy rag in his friend leg about the divorce took to game and had it on the jumbotron. I don't i really mutual thing among those. You've only be a joke. Could easily be trolling hoping that brown. Nick were a happily married gay. Couple that became unhappily married. Decided that i dunno brendan met somebody at work and while that person is also in a relationship. It sort of made brendan realize what he was missing from. Nick and nick at the same time was starting to want to change careers and so neck was like look. I have to move to houston and brendan was like that. I'm not moving to houston my life. Goals don't align with yours anymore and then in a nikolic. Why don't we just call it. We had a lovely nine years together. We have jaden our son and we can still and then they split up and then they were like you know what you love. More than anything the white sox. Let's go to one last white sox game and let the world now that We're happy to be apart. And you know it's gonna be awesome as when jaden ends up playing for the white sox holding comes full circle guys. This is why we love. It's this is the stuff this is. Why for its people. It's about people in relationships. Just stop asking a woman to enter into a long-term one with you in front of an entire state. You tried to do the nine nine. Nine at that game would have the winner. The winner gets to keep the dog that you're dressing. Whatever jaden whenever i named him. I think that's wait now. You can do your big story so red bull team. Principal christian horner is married to none other than ginger spice now way yup one of our red. It listeners posted. They've been married for six years. Well i was wondering she was she got out right before. Spice girls imploded. She got out she had. She was married before i liked. Jerry was she. Is she problematic. I haven't looked into jerry in a while. But i assume some she had some comments on feminism and stuff jerry jerry. No spicer f one okay. So that's is this you trying to sell me on f one it is. Look i think the thing about the college well. I guess the thing about college sports. That bugs me i think is what mostly one is. But at least everybody's getting paid but here's on the upside with College football. I know much more so i think our discussions will be a little better on the microscope saying macro anything that just basically the entire story line is money. Moving around. can't usually keep me for that long. Because i find it. I find money. There'd be boring. I'm a bad person. I you know. I like stories about divorces and gay couples that were married for them for the team. Exactly that's what i'm here for. I'm here for interpersonal. I can't financial. I don't understand it. I don't it i know it's important. I'm grateful and i'm and i'm and i avoid. It's enough for me. I can't be entertained by it. Is that a podcast. We have another voicemail. We do we have. I mean we could on voicemail podcast. We'll do that next week. When i don't book a guest i mean it's like my new joy i love this. Do you wanna play one more than sure..
F1: Beyond The Grid
"christian horner" Discussed on F1: Beyond The Grid
"To twenty thirteen. They had a few office adrian. You think ron dennis thought the when they join up us that adrian had seen his best days. You're just gonna sort of meander into retirement. But adrian was fully fired up. And i think those championship winning years with with fantastic and then of course we then came off the back of four consecutive world championships with an into the high sierra with an engine that just stood no chance of winning for the foreseeable future. And i think that was a massive test of adrian's motivation and of course ferrari came hunting made film star type offer and one of the things that really appeal to him the ability to do his own roe conn there and i think one of the key things that we did at that point we said. Why don't we do that here. Why don't we do a rebel design supercar here and it was a very short conversation. He was like yeah. Okay off. we said no idea how we were going to do it. Who we're going to do it with who going to pay for it. But if we he started coming up with the concept and in the meantime andy palmer who had been a infinity nissen who are title party. He took up the role of ceo. Asher martin and remember speaking to andy saying the agent wants the road car. You've got a fantastic brand. We've got a fantastic designer if we put the two together. Maybe we do something what was originally going to be twenty five. 'cause rapidly went two hundred fifty cars and that car. Finally this year will be delivered to the first of the customers. When's the first red bull road hit. Yeah who knows. I mean must now you can now do the relationship with aston as as finalized. It hasn't concluded on the advanced technology yet because still projects that are outstanding ongoing but of course the next thing is to look at. What is the next step. In that journey you know having learned all those lessons with the valkyrie. It'd be a great shame not to put them to use in something insane. Watch this space. How motivated is adrian now. Super-motivated you know. He's going to sniff that we're in with a chance for this world championship. And he's just like the adrian of two thousand ten eleven twelve thirteen. He's probably the same adrian as is ninety nine hundred ninety three ninety-six and he's got some great people that he's working with. I think on the technical teams doing a great job and that allows agen more freedom. We've got great strength in depth in the dynamic team and across the design functions. And it's everybody understands each other's roles. It's interesting that we're talking about this here in australia. Because coming into the weekend. Of course dan fellows your head of eros now off to ask so there's a lot of about technical structures and is the structure the same with you. Now as it was when adrian. I arrived is he. The sort of the person still at the top of the tree or is much flatter management structure. On the he's chief technical officer and so he has the ability to get involved in whatever he chooses to do so but then of course with hundreds of engineers you have to have a more formal structure that russia is our technical director. He heads that up. So the principal functions report into him which will be very different to the aston martin structure where the technical director doesn't have the reports of the performance director in the engineering director. So you know. Dan in his function as technical director. I believe we'll have aerodynamics and a british chassis layout whereas the technical director in reprising. Pierre's role he has the responsibility of old of those functions of every team is different. And of course every organization it folds and continues to evolve over time. Let's talk dreyfuss next. Who's been the most important driver in red bulls journey. There's been three as david in the early days. Because he for me was a heat-driven for the big teams he'd driven for williams he driven from mclaren's when he came to us he put in some fantastic before but he was a great barometer and sounding board for me to bounce ideas off to say. How did this compare to what you'll use to. And so he was. He played a key role in the early days of ripple racing and is still an ambassador an involved in the team. You know seventeen years later. You still bounce ideas. Yeah he's you know he's got a lot of experience. He's very good with a drivers. He understands the drivers emotions and hardships. And what they have to go through. So he's a he's a he's a great sounding board y- in terms of just dealing with drivers. Sebastian oversleep with the was the next one with the success that he achieved and the level he managed to hit was was phenomenal. When was hit his peak. Two thirteen nine races wins in a row style. But as the world champion brilliant. Dr joy well unbelievable. What was it about that car. I think you just worked it out. I think he worked with tara. He worked out how to get the most out of corner entry corner exit particularly in a slow speeds of high speed mark. Got him covered. Braver in the high-speed but said was smarter in the low speed and just managed to work out these complicated early tarzan on what the car needed. He was very smart at that. He applied himself incredibly well. And i think in the environment we gave him he felt loved and you know he felt he got the backing of the team and we were able to get get the most out of him before we move on from fatal to races. I wanted to ask you about multi. Twenty-one malaysia two thousand thirteen. What's the back story to that. Overtakes mark marks. Unhappy wins the race. But what was the back story where the back story to it. Well there was a bit of a back story was that we'd been hammered in australia the race before. I think kimmy had won the race in the lotus and the parolees have been like cheese in the race that they you had to look after them so cautiously and so we were very concerned about burning out the ties and so therefore we had discussed the about not putting ourselves on the pressure as a team therefore not allowing drivers to slug it out with each other and look after the car. It was raised to look after the car. Bring them home and what happened was said. Misjudge the crossover from wet to dry and come in too early too early. A market it spot. On and so trump position have been reversed but said had one new set of ties left available to him at the end so after the final pitch saw. I think it was a three salt right. I mean it was a busy race. It was right right. Okay this is about bringing it. We will running one. Two is just get the cost the finish. We don't wanna see tree slip through our hands but wind the clock back four months back to brazil the decider of the twenty twelve championship..
F1: Beyond The Grid
"christian horner" Discussed on F1: Beyond The Grid
"To becoming rebel. Employees is red bull powertrains. What you were looking for in the latter years with. I think we'd always felt that the various her entry was just too high. But i think with where the regulations are going does make it longer term young. The numbers being sensible and i think without home assistance. This would have never been possible. If we weren't able to be able to use some of their technology and expertise in two thousand and twenty two. This would have been impossible. Let's take it back to the start of this journey to two thousand and five describe. What but campus in milton gains was like when you start getting cooler. Campus a call it two industrial units and there were very green. Everything was painted green. It was green carpet everywhere because it was jaguar. It was a bit run down. And i remember. There was a nice shares launch in the office that i think used to be. Jackie stewart's original office and a lot of green shag power carpet everywhere in some nasty looking furniture but a changed immeasurably but of course. The original building was in the stewart grand prix building and before. That was even paul stewart racing so as the campus has gone through a transformation the last fifteen years. Or so as we've acquired more and more buildings and it is a campus. Now drive into it and it's a complete difficult but the building. The original building has been named the stewart building. A recent thing. I it is a recent thing named earlier this year. I'm hoping jackie is not gonna charge me a perpetual license for it or anything when covid rules allow coming. Open it for us. Officially we have allowed a building which is where the race team which was a building that niki lauda negotiated and cool building too. So that is the louder building. We have a real building which is where the engines will be produced and we also have a vessel building which is where our data centers aren and saw because sebastian was so obsessed with data. It only right to have a metal building. Did you ever think about moving things away from milton. Keynes and creating your own factory. Someone over started a long time ago. Base in two thousand five thousand six. We ought to go into a brownfield site. And jackie were thinking about that and we looked to their plans and so on but basically just grown organically and just bought more and more industrial unit on the state to the point that we could then fence it off quotas a campus and and have a new drive in and and and there's so much technology because we go now. We house rebel racing rebel technology. We have rebel advanced technology working on projects like the valkyrie and and other exciting projects him to at the moment now we have ripple powertrains as well so the so much going on so much technology based on the campus it's just full of innovation which is fantastic that rebel racing of two thousand and five. Where would it be qualifying on the grid. Now i would think it'd be just behind has the Yeah it was. It's come a long long way but there's a lot of people that are still within the company that were there in those in those days and do they get along before along to watch you get you get a nice tag heuer. You know so anybody that reaches twenty five years and there's quite a few of them we've got about four or five done twenty five years. Simon adams that runs the bisness a mechanic. Four three cough. Paul stewart racing all those years ago so one david coltart. Gosh which brings me onto another point when we talk about the journey from to now wanted to ask you about the key hires made along the way. Dc was one of the early employees. Wasn't he. yeah. I didn't heidi. Cdc was already nominated as drive by the time. I got there and it was like. Thank god i know. Dc the by far the biggest obviously was adrian and adrian's impact on the team has been immense. We weren't ready for adrian adrian. Join other you realize what he assigned to but you know. Dc paid an important role in attracting adrian to come and join the team and that was a key moment. Something people then started. Take us seriously then off the back of that we were able to attract other key talent. It's still remains with us today. People like rob marshall people like jonathan wheatley longstanding team members that have been with us from those early days. There was an interesting battle. If my memory's correct back in those days between red bull the party and you. I think probably driving the no. We're going to be a serious racing team. How difficult was it for you to win that. But it wasn't really a battle because we have to remember former one in the early noughties was full of oem's and so when you came into the paddock. It was toyota and bmw and mercedes and mcclaren him and it was very stiff. It was all very corporate driven by manufacturing influence. And when we came in wanting dietrich said to be very early one thing what was that. He wanted to do things differently. He wanted red bull to be different. Not in its aspirations but in the way that it presented itself. He wanted to see people having fun. He didn't want it taking itself too seriously so suddenly we turned up with the with the energy station. I remember very vividly. Imola two thousand and five first european race and we're parked next to mclaren intentionally bernie had no idea what we you know who we were turning up with. This sort of aluminium framed party house. The played music loud. Said anybody could come in. They liked because you need about fifteen passes to get into any of the other motorhomes. Which the inner sanctum within the paddock. And we did she go pass to get into product. You're welcome in here and we used to do a party on thursday. We used to do a sunset thing on a friday or saturday night. The music allowed the beer. Dj there and it was all it was a little rock and roll but the people that know how to take. I remember mclaren. I think they wrote several letters complaining about their noisy neighbors and one of their employees. I remember coming out to have a look. What the hell was stretch with his noise. Coming out in imola. And that was adrian and so that noise and that party atmosphere might have been one of the contributing factors. It produced some intrigue with him so invited income and have a look and he had a couple of drinks and one of the last to leave. And i think adrian just felt like a kindred spirit bin laden house in the early days and i think he felt that there was a real vitality and energy within the team that really appealed to him and an innocence in many respects but behind. That was this there was still a drive to. We're not just here to take part. It's we want to win we'll but we'll do it in a different way but we definitely wanna win. Was there a conscious effort though to steer away from being the party teen turn down the music darby quite so loud music just as loud as it used to go in the garage. We're a noisy neighbor. But i think just as a team. We grew up a bit. Because you got to a point. Where sunday racing world championships. And and you know we couldn't have a bunch of visits jumping in and out of the car on every garage tool so you just evolve and we just grew up during that period of time and as a result was come sodas way that you operate changes slightly. How hard was it to keep adrian when you were winning everything from two thousand ten.