17 Burst results for "Chris Shaw"

"chris shaw" Discussed on Broken Record

Broken Record

07:53 min | 3 months ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on Broken Record

"Best chance you have of anyone else liking it. It's the best chance. Better than any better than any second guessing that you can do or any opinions from someone who knows better. If you love it, if you collectively love it. And would be excited to play it for your Friends. There is no better test. That's it. Absolutely. Because it was like when we were meeting up in these sporadic times and these two would be mine or I would be in a layer, whatever it was. In the weeks after we'd hung out and done something, no matter how raw it was, in the weeks afterwards, I'd be working some other shit. And I'd be like, God, I'd just be listening to that drum. I'll be going back to that thing, and I'd be like, failing that thing off, like, oh, that makes me look in the mirror, and that's why I'll do. Well, that's what I want to fucking do. Do you know what I mean? It was like and they'll be doing this sort of stuff that people might think is cool or makes money and where everyone's like, yeah, I'm fucking hit it. You know, I really did. And when I met Ari like ten years ago, I was sick of people telling me my work looked great and I just felt nothing. Honestly, when I looked at it, I was kind of like, I felt like I really didn't look good. And I'm good at what I do when I do, you know, I'm kind of creatively, I'm pretty good at shit and stuff. And it's like this thing where I just didn't feel anything, man. Being Ari, it was like this weird thing where I was working on stuff. This is before we started. It was like, I would work with him. And the work that happened and the thing I thought I'd feel like legit. Yeah. I would. And then that would be the same feeling that would then carry on the three of us. Like one would leave, I'd be like, damn. Swimming in it. You know there's that's just got something. It's got that thing. And if you think of all of the people who make things trying to get on the radio and don't. Exactly. Exactly. Just your taste that you never think would get on the radio and that gets on the radio, trust yourself. That's it. That's the test case. Remember that, remember how it started? Thanks, man. Thank you. We needed that. It's funny. It's funny, it's funny that you say. In my case, it wasn't even trust myself. It was trust them. Yeah. And trust the, I was like, Jacob, this is the best music you've ever done. Yes. Fuck it. Literally. Like, 'cause I was like, well, no, I need to do this and I do this and I'd be like, Jacob, just chill the fuck out. That's what y'all want to do. All right, that's fine. You want me to do what? Okay, fine. As a rule, try everything. If you have an idea that's different, try it also. That's one thing we do rule like that. But you never know. You never know. I've tried some stuff. But you can only. It doesn't always work. It's fine. No, it's fine. But he's not process is fun, you know? It's like, we love to just even recut take everything out here, just vocal and vase or something random, and it's like, that's exciting to us. That's where we'll just Jacob will just give us something amazing. And then we can nerd out. Because that's the thing with bloodline. Stranger. Even with stranger. Completely reworked. And I came back and I cried. I was like, what the hell? But again, it's just, you can't try everything if you have a fear of anything, right? And trust is that that's what I was trying to say. It's like the one thing I've learned and the one thing that I'll share here right now if I was to give any advice to anybody in my short, very, very short yearlong music career. Yeah. I'm only talking like you the fucked up thing I hope. I'm ready to make a video. 'cause you gotta go and I'm on a eulogized about this right now. But I do feel it's important just as an artist is to share that trust is the one thing that will be the key to workflow. And if you trust each other if you trust, I'm safe to try something. Like you got to nurture that environment. That's true. Right. Because you're in that environment for people around you to feel safe. They've got trust you to feel safe to try shit and be wrong. Nothing wrong with being wrong. And the thing is, is like, that is what is what kind of we've been building that garden. And I will say Ryan's been a very strong part in that for me and I think because, you know, I think Jacob and I have a sense to kind of be hard on ourselves in certain ways. Cosmos genius is dead. It's a common trait that goes. It's always there to encourage and even stuff that we might not think is something that we are just trying. He'll be like, no, keep that. That's sick. Like really cool. And then you listen to it and it's like that has been invaluable in this experience for anyone, because so cool. I also say this in life in general. We need to create spaces where people are safe and they can cut the bullshit. Yeah. 'cause a lot of us are doing bullshit, that's not real. Musically in life. Absolutely. And we're making these standards and creating these stories for people and people, you're 50, 60 years old, and you still don't have a clue of who you really are, what you really want, what is really in your heart. What's really, you know, and so you've been bullshitting for 50 years. Yeah. Now you're 65. And now you've realized, oh, I'm actually gonna need all that. I really don't have to do all that. I really don't. But even musically, that's what I think we've created where it's like, Jacob, we know the truth. You can't bullshit me in here. Jake, come on, really? And that is what my prayer is that the world is able to have that. But we can stop bullshitting each other. Beautiful. Whatever it is. Whatever that is. Whatever it is. This is what this is what brings me peace. This is what I don't want to fucking work a job or whatever it is. You know what I'm saying? Yes. And even if it's even if you have to do something that you're uncomfortable with, at least the truth is known. Yes. And it's acknowledged. Yes. 'cause then you're able to move. Sorry. Absolutely. Beautiful. You never have to apologize to me. You never have to apologize. I've won these rants and I get lost in space and my point is. It's beautiful. Yeah, amazing man. All good. Congratulations on thank you, guys. Yeah, congratulations on finding each other and congratulations on making beautiful stuff. Thank you. Thank you. Nothing better. Cool. All right, thank you for doing this. Thank you. Thank you. Pleasure so much, yeah. Thank you so much. Thanks again to Gabriel's. I also want to give a shout out to the folks who made that live session sound as beautiful as it does. The whole band, of course, plus Lisa Fletcher at arvin studios in Austin, Texas, Chris Shaw, who engineered that session in beach noise who mixed the songs. You can hear all of our favorite Gabriel songs on a playlist at broken record podcast dot com. Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube dot com slash broken record podcast. We can find all of our new episodes. You can follow us on Twitter at broken record. Broken record is produced with help from Leah rose, Jason gambel, Ben holiday, Eric Sandler, Jennifer Sanchez, our editor Sophie crane. Our executive producer is Mia Labelle. Broken record is a production of pushkin industries. If you love this show and others from pushkin consider subscribing to pushkin plus. Bushkin plus is a podcast subscription that offers bonus content and uninterrupted ad free listening for four 99 a month. Look for push plus on Apple podcast subscriptions. And if you like our show, please remember to share rate and review us on your podcast app. Our theme music by Kenny beats, and Justin Richmond.

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"chris shaw" Discussed on TuneInPOC

TuneInPOC

03:12 min | 8 months ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on TuneInPOC

"Someone is called the demo made it to tab Sullivan, an A&R guy at geffen, which became the one major label to show interest in weezer. Sullivan had some trouble getting them at first. Comparing their demo to the Ramones in the descendants as well as the pixies. And coming away from their live show, wondering if they were British. Weezer signed a geffen for a modest deal and sharpened Cuomo had every intention of producing an album themselves. Sullivan convinced him otherwise. Cuomo had been listening to the car's greatest hits. And became excited at the idea that the band's leader, Ric ocasek, would produce the album. Ocasek, liked what he heard. What did it go to from what did we ocasek persuaded the band to travel to his home base in Manhattan and record an electric lady studios. Sharp and Cuomo had come up with all sorts of rules. Banning the use of reverb and assisting on only downstrokes on guitar. Their engineer, Chris Shaw, explains there was one overriding concept. The idea was that the guitars and the bass were one huge ten string instrument. The way all the base and the voice was just, they want everything to sound like one big monster guitar. There's very few songs in the record that actually have a baseline that drifts away from the guitar is doing. And I think the only benchmark we had, it was sort of like the loudest guitar record at the time was probably creeped by radiohead, you know? They're going to guitars in the course come in. They just obliterate everything. And so when you were doing the mixes, we were checking to make sure our guitars were just as loud. It's not louder than creepy. And you know I don't know your mind Cuomo had written a song called Buddy Holly. Using a friend's core keyboard to add 80s inspired synth parts. In his mind, it was intended for the band's second album, which would be more keyboard oriented in new wave influence. Wizard, of course, never made such an album. But sharp and Cuomo were also concerned that Buddy Holly could become the kind of 90s hit. That could kill a man. Oh no what would you here's drummer Patrick Wilson again? It was the wrong narrative. I think he felt like in fact the Buddy Holly, he didn't even want to record. Because he had a sin flying and in his mind, he had a map of, okay, the next record, we're going to do like an 80s thing. Blah, blah, blah. So really, the story of weezer is plans gone wrong. Yeah. That's life then. But I love it. Because Rick was like, no, this song has got to be on the record. That means the river is a lot, actually. He'll have a certain mindset about something. And somebody with authority will come out and go. That's actually the best way to go. But rivers to his credit will listen, even if it doesn't feel right. He knows the person's right..

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"chris shaw" Discussed on Nightly Pop

Nightly Pop

07:31 min | 10 months ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on Nightly Pop

"I don't have a problem with the outfit, but not on a jet. It's a private jet. She can rub her ass on anything she wants. That's true. It is private. If this was a commercial flight, I would have a problem. If I got to sit in this seat afterwards, it's like, you know what I mean? I'm just not for a bear ass in a plane seats. If general for comfortability. And I was in a commercial flight and I saw a woman walking down in that outfit with that ass. I just be waiting like, is she gonna sit next to me? That is the next thing. That's practically naked. Yeah. But my concern is for lizzo's comfortability on a flight. And when I go on a flight, I try to be in the most comfortable outfit as possible. It's just not seem like she is going to be comfortable on this flight. I'm worried gay men are going to see this outfit and just steal it. We have to take a break becoming what do I and Kyle Richards and Kathy Hilton, more housewives talk plus, we find out why looking for your partner's phone might not be a good idea that's next. Wow. Welcome back, so we have to talk about The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills trailer. It is packed with all of the drama and we're really dying to know what Kathy Hilton did to Kyle. You said some things about this beautiful sister of yours. I'm sorry, Kathy. You're not gonna get away with it. I feel like you hate me or something. Kyle. Oh, but you say those things, Kyle. The door is locked. Should we unlock it? No, don't lose. Don't unlock it. You just leave your cabbie out in the cold show. They turn on somebody every season. I did not expect it to be Kathy Hilton. Hunter, you've met Kathy. You work with Paris. Yeah. How are you feeling about how she's being treated? Tweet your faves to kind of give it this season. I don't know if a lot of talk about this, but we've talked about it, Paris and I and I know what happened with the zigzag situation because it was like right after one of the I don't know if I'm allowed to say this. But Kathy went to Kyle's house and started throwing up gang signs and said, this ain't it, mother. Kathy pulls out a butterfly knife and I swear to God she starts stabbing the door. This is all true. With a bat with a barbed wire wrapped around it, it's like a harlequin thing. I don't know what's going on. This happened for about two and a half hours. And I say they're like, wow, this is no one's going to believe me. And look, now nobody believes me. This is exactly right up. Is this all just to avoid because you really know some tea? No, I don't know anything. This is just awful. I mean, how would you feel if you were somewhere in people that you know are just like, no, me and hunter are like, don't open the door. Locked me out. I guess at that point I have enough money to break the window. That's true. So, I just, I would just be more pissed if I was locked out of somewhere and I had that mask on. I already look ridiculous and you not gonna open the door, bitch. Now we're gonna fight. Yeah. Moving on the couples from the ultimatum have just moved back in together, but things are looking a little sketch with April's fiance Jake. After he passed out drunk, April decided to seize the opportunity. I came over here to pass out your phone was unlocked. And by opened your phone and I went through it. I found videos on Jake's phone filming this close up to raise ass doing this at the plug. Why are you going through my phone right now? Why are there multiple videos? And I am psycho and I ear drop them to myself. Right now to make me look like the worst guy in the world. She was just asked me about the things in my phone. I've been open and honest with her and shelter. There is no reason to have videos about bitches doing this at the club. That's cheating. And then cheating. Because there was a joke, you didn't know the behind the story. I wasn't just filming your ass for no reason. Not sure. What is worse, you guys? Is it your partner video taping a girl twerking or are you going through your partner's phone, finding the video of them twerking? The last word. First of all, if I see a girl twerking on my boyfriend's phone, I'm confused. I love that we get to see this girl twerk twice in this promo. She's the twerker in my head. Right. If someone went through my phone, we're done. You will break up with somebody for that? Yeah, I think so. Wow, I'm not on that boat with you, my friend. Really? You have where it allows. I'm going to not ask permission to just go through your phone. I mean, I don't think you have a choice of somebody who does it behind your back. You trust them after that. Well, how do they trust you if you're cheating in the fall? Good point. Yeah. I don't think it's cheating that he's filming other girls butts. I just think it's weird. If my partner was doing that, we would have a very serious conversation that could get violent. With words. Okay, you guys finally Selling Sunset is coming back for season 5. I can't wait. Which means the fans get to see behind the scenes of Chris shells brief romance with Jason. We're in Greece. Vacation has started. I'm in love, babe. For now, I feel like things are going really well. I would love it if Chris Shaw and Jason got married. I just don't want Jason to hurt her though. Where are you guys on babies? It easily ski when you're in an office and you're obviously dating your boss. I was wondering why I wasn't getting listings. And I was like, oh yeah, it's because I'm not in my boss. That is rich coming from her. You know what? I am the boss. I mean, it's dating a coworker or a boss ever a good idea. I want you to answer this since your Friends with Chrishell. Look, I think that there are situations. I think they're circumstances where people's energy, like he knew her when she was married. He knew her through her breakup. They had a genuine friendship first. He was genuinely friends with her. And there was no funny business. Like she was dating other people. But there were always to me even as friends. He was always next to her and all the pictures. He was always very protective of her as friends. So I just think like when there's a good energy, sometimes you look up and you're like, wow. Why don't I try this? Like, it's really not in your thought there. I've definitely been guys that I've been friends with her. I'm like, why am I not dating him? Like, he's such a great guy, you know? So I think that that can happen and sometimes it's a coworker, you know? How have you guys navigated your secret? You know what? Zach? Thank you for joining us today. You will see you never. You can take it. Hunter, you posted a baby, I guess. I wasn't really on the gram this weekend like that. Right. But you know, on the timeline, I posted my cousin's baby. That's the baby. And I got so many people at me like Nina. And I was like, why am I being added about this baby? Because you know we'd have a cute baby. We would have a cute baby. There's no doubt about that. And there's only one way to find out. Okay, all right. You're done. You know, other way, really. You wouldn't even be able to handle this vagina voodoo. All right, happily die. We gotta take a break. Yeah, we have a relationship coach who picks the best supermarket aisle to hit on someone. Boy bye is next and noted..

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"chris shaw" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show

The Rich Eisen Show

03:19 min | 11 months ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show

"In case you're wondering, that lineup that I just mentioned to you, all but Smith have appeared in an actual All-Star Game. And by all measures, projected stats, you know, you see that in fantasy pages. Projected stats. The projected on base percentage for that team is three 20, meaning 32%, one third of the time, they will get on base. Last year, that would place this Dodgers lineup with that lowest projected on base percentage, 12th, highest in Major League Baseball, and of the 18 teams below them would be the world champion Atlanta Braves. And it's the 8th highest slugging percentage for 28, which is their lowest projection. That would be the 8th highest in Major League Baseball last year. Now, the question obviously is who's going to pitch, you got walker Bueller, Julio urias, Gonzalez, Andrew heaney. The last Southern California can't quit him. And then who knows about Trevor Bauer? So Dave Roberts is going to join us first and Clinton Kershaw's back online. Oh, that's right, Clayton Chris Shaw's back on a one year deal. So Clayton Kershaw is in that mix too, clearly. My bad. So look, here's the deal. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. Okay, this man knows it. Who's about to join it? It's World Series or bust. It's World Series of bust if they don't care about whatever luxury tax that they're paying to Salud as they say in The Godfather, good for you. You got to win the World Series. You got to make it. You got to win it. And then just perfect example here of what's going on in Major League Baseball that the collective bargaining agreement did not fix is you've got one group like the Los Angeles Dodgers with money coming out of there. You know what? And they're spending it. And then up the road in Oakland, mad Olson let's send him let's home grow him even though he's from Atlanta. Let's send him back to Georgia. Let's send him home. And then Matt Chapman. He's gone too. We'll send him to Toronto, and this is a team that's been that plucky a's team that's been winning more games than not and all of a sudden it's like, oh gosh, they're the ones in the west driver's seat who knew? They're going to do it again. They're going to have to do it again and start with guys. You've never heard of and one team is just like selling them off and other team is selling out tickets. So okay, Dave Roberts is up first Todd mcshay with his we're going to check in on how his mock draft is all settling in as free agency is pieces are beginning to land. Max Crosby will join us in hour number three. He's got a new teammate and Chandler Jones out there in Vegas. And then right in the middle of the program, Paul Pierce will join us. You as well, 8 four four two O four rich, but let's beat it on out of Dodge, so the Dodgers manager can join us. We'll get to break right now. So we'll get to break so we can get to Dave Roberts relatively on time. Meanwhile, Michigan's down three, nothing. Oh my God. March Madness has begun. Will she reveal our final four later on? Let's take a break, we're.

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"chris shaw" Discussed on Cold

Cold

07:15 min | 1 year ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on Cold

"It's lunchtime. I'm hungry and i'm also tired of picking through leftovers in the refrigerator so i grab a thick slice of sharp cheddar a couple. Good cuts deli ham and two slices of dave's killer bread. I'm going with the good seed variety this time. This is gonna be a good grilled cheese dave's killer bread has the perfect texture for this and it's made with the highest quality organic and non gmo. Ingredients i also liked it. It's packed with protein and fiber but it doesn't taste like cardboard crumble. Like some other whole grain breads dave's killer bread. Good seed is both hardy and sweet at the perfect balance of texture and flavor. Even if you're just using it for toast or eating at naked with no toppings. I can tell you it really hits. The spot visit dave's killer bread dot com to learn more and look for dave's killer bread in the bread aisle of your local grocery store. This podcast is sponsored by better help. 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Best means it's a puzzle or matching game but as a guy who cut his teeth growing up on console and pc strategy games. I really liked that. It also includes elements of storytelling and leveling up your characters in best fiends. You start with these little baby versions of your characters the fiends and develop them as you compete against the bad guys. The slugs as the fiends develop their skills. The game levels grow more complex and that really helps to keep your fingers and your brain engaged with new levels constantly being added. You also won't run out of content anytime soon. Download best fiends free today on the app store or google play. That's friends without the our best means. Dog level was either an angel or a devil depending on who you ask. Doug is a man who repented and deserves a chance to get into society before he dies. His bishop chuck thompson. Sent this email to the head of the charity. Rising star outreach. Becky douglas on the final day of witness testimony saw doug. Yesterday he glowed. You're as angel and might be the one who saves his life both chuck and becky had testified on. Doug's behalf both had seen joyce joost's children kim salazar and greg roberts sitting in the courtroom. I still don't understand. What part of the atonement joyce's kids don't understand. After thirty bitter years it is more than time to let go and forgive dug a changed man. Closing arguments began the following morning. Prosecutor chris shaw went first. He told the jury over the thirty years since doug had killed joyce the focus had become quote all screwed up. It's perversely directed when the hope is she. Bob you're here beyond joining us. There can be no closure. He said when your loved one is taken from you. Forever consider that weight the weight of the human destruction that this defendant's conduct is had on that family and on joe's most importantly life ended thirty nine years. He asked the jurors to consider whether doug had showed joyce human dignity when she had pleaded for her life and he challenged the idea. Doug's efforts to lead investigators to joyce's remains had been authentic remember his manipulative controlling and cunning nature. We have to stop and get beer growing take law enforcement to the place. Are you eating me. We have to stop and get a beer. This is the same person that raped her. They kidnapped her they and murder and he's swedish about taking the police to the right spot. Please chris asked the jury to make its decision. Based on the entire constellation of doug's criminal behavior he's committed all of the aggravating felonies. The state of utah has to offer this. Chris said justified a sentence of death. Defense attorney michael bowels then stood and reminded the jury doug did not contest the facts of the crimes he had committed thirty years earlier. The stakes right. It was a horrendous crime There's no excuse for this defense work. Which is exactly why during the trial phase. We didn't present a defense. But michael said there were other factors to consider doug's family life. His parents divorce a history of head trauma and substance abuse. And what about ronda. Michael called her a co-conspirator who had needed immunity because of the active role she had played in plotting. Joyce's death and of course we're going with. This is not that we got to somehow bring rhonda charter. But the question is whether it's appropriate and that's a decision. You're going to have to reach in this case whether it's appropriate and just in this case to impose the death penalty on doug when rhonda didn't face any charges at all michael said doug had been ernest in his efforts to take terry carpenter to joyce's body. Doug level has the greatest incentive of anybody to lead them to the right place if he leaves into.

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"chris shaw" Discussed on Spittin' Chiclets

Spittin' Chiclets

05:45 min | 1 year ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on Spittin' Chiclets

"Was that four drafted in that league. Maybe fifteen or not. That'd be fifteen. Second year battle yet at bush out of the room today by he went onto also play eighteen for canada and he's played in. He was one of your top three players at one of the world junior team you. I've seen one year and then he became the best freestyle dancer. Nhl locker room. Is you see this guy play the guitar you youtube ryan hallway playing the guitar. He was sheriff of pills in check. Lately martin strack a them martin. Straka hawley were buddies. At new york's strack of bought the team in pills in hollywood there. He was the sheriff there. Fuck into fighting coachee other some tough guys originally. He's playing in the guitar after in front of a crowd did like a math. That is unbelievable. Eight so going back to your career i saw. I don't know if it was before or after one year last year's in corpus christi you end up going to the british ice hockey superleague for eleven games. Which has turned into the h. l. Where i play with carter was with cardiff around then. And how was your overall experience. There it was the bracknell bees. You play for yeah. That's right. So i i carry a british work visa so i was not import there. I went over there and dump so number. I told you guys. I broke my leg in corpus. Christi when i was twenty. Four twenty three account member what it was so i've always wanted to go to england. My dad actually played for the fife flyers in scotland. So i always wanted to go over. There migrate coach annual. Sacha load one of my best friends and awesome coach international hockey camps he runs. He was the coach over there. He brought me over there. Unfortunately i was trying to heal a little faster in the off season. I got a steroid call Deca took hysterical dacca in so i got my contracts. Ioc drug testing. I shut that shit off and looking for the edge to get back in the game right. I got embraced my past. So you guys. Do you want play that or not. I don't really give shit. So i took this steroid. I stopped it. When i got my contract i went over there. Everything was cool for about three months. And then they start. Hidden is hard with irc tahseen. I didn't want to have my name drug through the mind So i took off in I never really got chance to explain to my coach. But like i said i'm good friends. Venue now. I told them exactly what i just told you. Guys need winger. I would've hit you. Man i would hit you. I wouldn't let them test you. I was twenty four years old. I didn't know any better right. So i didn't wanna let him down. Not my teammates down or my family down happened. My name dragged through the mud. But hey years later i pretty much did that anyway. So is a great experience over there. I thought it was awesome league. They're paying welders kind of tough guys over there and it's the only place in europe at that time there. You're gonna find north american hockey now when you're taking these steroids. I do they you bring them over with you know business. Soon as i got my contract and read it i stopped it so choke. So how long are they going to be in your system. That's what i got. I went over there right. And i got a buddy that calls minnows. A bunch of boat. This shit he goes. Where you take. Decades city i took some deca goes detectable in your system for eight to twelve months. My goodness will. You mean like the worst kind of steroids. No it's actually a really if you look it up. It's not a very strong one but it was one that was recommended to me for healing getting back into shape. We'll get a leg stop right. It wasn't very strong. I wasn't to put on weight. I didn't wanna put on weight. I just wanted to go on strength and rehab. That things faster could occur now. I- legit wanna go on steroids. That's that was the that was the it goes from the russian superleague. The british super. Everybody's switz- students steroids from leaked russian. Gas over the russian gas. Just booze in england though. Hey how about the drinking culture there. There'd be people passed out at bars everywhere. Taking the dirt naps. It's amazing over there. Like oh man. I wish i would have stayed. Could've stayed why it was what it was. Just what an awesome experience. I try to tell all my kids that like lake. It's whatever whatever's going to happen like you don't make the nhl like fucking go to europe if you can't you gotta go over there like it's just what what life experience it is a bit like. What do you ever play overseas. Or what. You have played in russia dude. I'd planes like land on my building. And i was like even on this planet. That's where that's where. Jimmy learn to stuff that's where he was getting seasoned up. You went over there for a quick shelter. Those k- cello owners are like. That's nothing. I was handing him a million. What's ten. g's right exactly. I heard and brass. You're telling me all about that. All him and yobbo is other yet. Kip brennan. they're all on the same team to these guys are at a different level. Now listen we talked about how these are the old days and you know you did all this crazy shit now. You've calmed down quite a bit. You're actually coaching your kids. One of which is playing and being billeted on the mainland on north thank hoover. Yeah that's right. So the northwest hawks Aaa zone program The general managers is my business partner. Chris shaw he's the gm and the head coach of the fifteen team ryan hallway. That you eighteen head coach Scott houston as seventeen head coach on like i said annual. Sacha lodo coach the team last year by coach from england so he's actually coachman england coach my son last year. Major backup so a pretty special thing. Really good program The bc major midget league major bantu league. It's it's on the up and up..

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"chris shaw" Discussed on Spittin' Chiclets

Spittin' Chiclets

07:29 min | 1 year ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on Spittin' Chiclets

"So hopefully doesn't hear this. You might wanna fight me but always skill guy fight for the nickname. He's got the nasty. And i get the bees nasty ya all. He wasn't. He told me that he wasn't too happy stolas name. He told me that once. It is nice seeing often rowdy snow. We all get soft. Mike rupp get signed. You guys must have been an absolute disbelief in the room. I any guy come down to play in. Danbury you guys. Y'all actually. He wasn't the first. Nhl guy we've picked up happened. I met stephen pete fighting them so we became good friends and i broke my leg. They reach out this Pedia- -pedia pd came. In the danbury. Stay with sarah. My wife and i and lived with us for bitten on state about a month or whatever he ended up taking off without saying anything. So that's a kind of maybe took a little bit Month a paycheck and then disappear. I'm scared about that. 'cause i bought stephen peden and i went to jimmy. I'm like fuck you want me to go back to vancouver find the skyros. He's like laughed. Ivy winger. I'll pay ten ground to see the character of a man any day like all right flock so we have stephen pete. That year came in and then robert came in. He was robertson. Austin die rocking awesome. you know. he's no such unit. That's a big a business or he cut me open. He was losing minnesota. Bugsy malone he was toughest shit flock. He's normal. I can't even tell tall. Is i gotta get a step stool. Stretch armstrong arms to big. You got your distance and a bridge or in the face and a good player to like decent solid player and member. one night. I was out with a broken leg but he acts actually knocked out cold with a clean track. Data street. get off the ice. The body bag game own. Danbury a fucking out of this guy off and he never you know muscle in the sky twitch while he was gonna cut it off. I was like fuck. That was hard hit on. Aj was on a call that section twelve fucked it up as the the the r&b. He wasn't happy. So i think he's gonna put one right between my fucking is but what i was going to say. No oh gosh. I did what you did. The real i want to ask you. ahl career. I know you had a handful of games. Did score one goal. Take through that when the same the massacre night so i was able you know how many fights can you guys get an american hockey league game boo. That's why you took your shirt off and celebration and you fought with. It's still off. Can you get in pro hockey. Gave me guys three. I thought you're on third one. You're gone fuck. You guys had four that night or on. The ice had time to score the game winning goal as still had enough time to hit the bar after getting upset for one. Haven't night for yourself. You try to kill these day stabber guy. I try to stop a guy with the skate and try to chop a guy's head off with your stack yet. The grossest thing you've ever done in hockey with show your nipples off to the world's first grand penguins terrible tattoo fuck in. That's parse parse has the the sun that the tribal son. I guess we could just roast them now with you. Throw it around the horn here. Well i like to throw a jab parks do for sure nice tattoo arse fire. Y'all i'm curious. Got all these leagues in the nineties. Like w. h. l. the wchs. I'll be i sa. What kind of dough you guys making during this time. Now fuck. i remember starting out When i was twenty or twenty one it was like four hundred bucks a week. Cover your apartment in all your per diem on your preeminence shed on the shoe to rouse low. The bridges in the dressing room. So you're right biz. You know at a yeah so not mocks rate. That's not much when you're starting out through. It was four hundred bucks a week. Are you guys getting dinners and stuff. They'll get restaurants settle hook it up at fifty percent off. You got a card their team card there in the pocket five or six wrestles a lot of times. You go to those restaurants some fan. Random founders picking up a bill so you get that perks and someone like corpus christi man fucking places prematurely on the beach awesome. I was going to ask you. You were there for four four years so you must have loved it there. They loved you. Those who your best seasons ye-ye-yeah awesome list to play hockey. I was married there on my wife's canadian from my hometown. But we got married down there Who doesn't like average year round temperature seventy degrees and three golf courses. The ball out for free. I imagine the pick. I know when things went downhill for jimmy. How you the tax off and you play at people on the payroll and working for the garbage company now. That was there ever any follow with the players because they weren't involved intentionally but it did any plays ever get hung up for that shit even though the guy got a fucking got a bill from the irs of sought my can't remember can hopefully the statute of limitations. But we ended this out. Maybe you need to do that. But as you know in canada social insurance number in states and social security number so pretty sure. I burnt my social security number that was way after the When this thing ended i was getting a fuck out danbury. I know they started hitting some the players. Pretty hard. The fbi question. I think jackdaw might have been one of them. I don't know if i'm olga was in there but there's no fucking way in the fbi. Like i packed up my kid and my wife. We were gone the fuck out of there. I ain't saying shit no fbi. But listen. i'll tell you that. I hope they give you a little warning or was that. Just kind of like yeah. He came in. The room was on the front pages of paper. But jimmy played it off. Lake fucking. Let me worry about this. You guys variable plant hockey and everything's going to be fine. It's always going to be fine with them. Guys man the worry about it till it happens. They don't need to worry about that. Shit days anything you want shell as far as work wise or skating clinics shot you know for sure is all want send show tomorrow. Sunshine coast minor hockey association where the sunshine coast blues. I wanna say. Say all the players out there i want to say i had all my coaches managers Fellow board members. I'm the director hockey operations there. Among on the head coach so one of my jobs is not only coach. The players that i coached the coaches I gotta send a shout out. You guys have to have this guy on the show. Sometimes a real lawyer ryan hallway and chris shaw and this company right here new angle hockey development so you guys can search site up on facebook anyone. That's listening. search it up on instagram chris. Shah's remain guy there but the ryan hallway shadows my brothers saw. Hey you know. I played with ryan helwig. Yeah fucking great guy when you get on the show butler to him on the dance hughes because he was kid so right we serve playing national team stuff but he was in the whol the only guy we had from that he was great when we were younger. Fucker bowling ball a this. So brian He's a dual citizen. Yeah he's the first ever american to be drafted. I over on the western hockey hallway was drafted first overall. When we were young he was filthy. He was the guy when we're like. Was that four drafted in that league. Maybe fifteen or not. That'd be fifteen. Second year battle yet at bush out of the room today by.

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"chris shaw" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

51:23 min | 1 year ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. Each and every day every day is different. And that's what i love about the unknown. And i'm gonna treat it like that and we just gonna continue to bill because i think we got great mas and organization that really want to coach the whole person. And that's what i'm really excited about. You decided to upgrade your outdoor deck. So you ordered the essentials. Power washer said a patio chairs and a shiny new grill. And you use your bank of america. Customized cash rewards credit card choosing to earn three percent cashback online shopping and up to five point. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.

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"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.

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"chris shaw" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

03:32 min | 1 year ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix

"That's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball..

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"chris shaw" Discussed on 790 KABC

790 KABC

07:25 min | 1 year ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on 790 KABC

"To guess what he's saying. The clip now. What Right right. I think he's trying to say anyway, right? But it sure sounds like he's saying Ray Ray. Alrighty. Continue with Joe Biden and the Dodgers. But the Dodgers are a lot more than a baseball club. They really are. Pillar American culture. And American progress, and that's for real. Team that brought us the voice of Vin Scully in sending arm of Sandy Koufax and Fernando, Venezuela, and I was talking with staff and they said, I want to teach how to pronounce that name. I said, I watched him pitch. I'm only 37. But it's I wish anyway. Uh huh. I love how Biden transitions that abiding eventually through the mic over to Clayton Kershaw and did this absolutely smoothly Now let's bring up three time Cy Young Award winner. Fighting Chris Shaw to say a few words. Clayton Crenshaw Crenshaw to, uh, some words and maybe through a few curveballs, okay? That's just some of the yucks that were happening as the Dodgers were celebrated at the White House, which is a fantastic event for all of Dodger Nation here, although it's a little weird that that headline dropped at the same time as Major League baseball, putting Dodger pitcher and heart high school alumni Trevor Bauer on suspension for seven days because of these allegations that I don't really want to get into because well To really describe what's being alleged. Can't even do it on the radio. It's uh, you know, there was some encounters the Trevor Bauer was having with women. Allegedly, according to Trevor Bauer, He was asked to do certain things that were somewhat violent, but was asked to do them and did them too well. Let's just move on from there. He hasn't been charged with anything. Everything is alleged, but Major League Baseball doesn't want the story, so they're not letting them pitch on Sunday. Now it is travel day. A lot of people going out of town. As we said a lot of reporters standing at L, A X and there were a lot of reporters at L. A X this morning because there was a quote suspicious package at Terminal two, which backed up the horseshoe for hours. It was a nightmare. And guess what Traffic is going to be bad today as well. Because Vice President Kamala Harris is flying into l A X at six o'clock, which means around six o'clock, you're going to see bad traffic on the West side in Westchester and all the way to Brentwood. So, uh, camel hair spending the weekend here in Los Angeles goody for us. They really got to have, like just a helicopter straight to wherever she needs to go. Don't clock up the traffic with the motorcades. But, you know, it is a interesting time to be talking about l A X because last week was the groundbreaking ceremony for something. That L A X has been waiting for for generations, almost centuries at this point, and that is to be the last airport ever to have public transportation. Straight to the terminals were building that people mover and yesterday well last week. Eric Garcetti, Mike Bonin, Janice on Ollie Mitchell, a few other dignitaries. They broke ground on The L A X train going from the Crenshaw line to l A X. You can get on the subway and go all the way to the airport, and we're going to play you a whole bunch of this. Absolutely bonkers. Congratulatory press conference As soon as we take this call from Robert, who wants to play? What the hell did Joe Biden say? Hey, Robert. Hey, John. How you doing? It's Randy. But you know, I'm doing great, Randy. Sorry. I speak a little Joe Biden. I think what he was trying to say you're but at any rate, Okay, Let's try it right, right. Right, right, but at any rate Alright. Alright. I'm gonna give it to you. I think that's what it is. Congratulations. Thanks and have a good one. Oh, that takes me back 802 to 2 K. ABC is the phone number Eric Garcetti tell us why it's so important that we're breaking down breaking ground on the train to l A X. This is the kind of day in which we say l A isn't just Marked by doing big things, but we are defined by the way that our ambitions continue to propel us forward out of some of the darkest days into what we can see just ahead. I gotta warn you people. Garcetti hasn't done any kind of press conference in a long time because he's hiding from everyone because the India job so he hasn't been able to express platitudes and they've been building up in his system. So you're going to hear a lot of them today. Propel us forward out of some of the darkest days into what we can see just ahead of us. Not hope hanging on the horizon, but hope in our hands, Jobs, less traffic. Cleaner air the capability of welcoming people from around the world in the country or welcoming Angelenos back home and not being that place in which you have to do that stuck. By yourself, or maybe with one other person in a car in traffic. That today is what we celebrate here. As we break ground on the connection of two great entities, both of which I'm so proud to be a small part of our Los Angeles world airports and our Los Angeles County. Metropolitan Transportation Authority or Metro. That's right. Metro and L. A X are finally coming together. You're going to be able to get on at the Crenshaw line and go all the way to l, A X and the people mover won't have to drive to the horseshoe. Who Garcetti explains how great this is Now. It's a cliche here in Los Angeles that usually we don't know how to get along with each other right that we Cut government into so many pieces that they can't talk to each other can take on big projects that agencies don't like doing things together that the business community residential community, the governmental communities really don't interact with one another. I don't think that's a cliche. That's just fact. I mean, this is a project has been talked about for decades before I was even born. But I'd like to put Exhibit a here today, this group of leaders out in the audience and right here. The men and women who buildings the engineers and the architects, the people who are the dreamers and those who are the elected public officials who I'm so proud to serve with the community members who demand that we do it in a way and I won't take Mike Bonds line, but you'll hear it That is good, both at the airport and for the residents. And I'm going to pause every so often I encourage our speakers to is the Planes come by here. Nothing. I love better than a press conference at the airport as you hear planes taking off in the background to but we are finally here. To bring a train to the plane. He did it, Everyone I love to rise. You love to ride. Let's ride together and have a good time. All you know him. You love him. Thats Raimi, Eric Garcetti. Just.

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"chris shaw" Discussed on Alchemy This

Alchemy This

04:01 min | 1 year ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on Alchemy This

"Fix. Hey if you want to do the opposite of what you just heard. Here meaning improvised but dramatically it sooner taking a workshop with me chris. Shaw dot com slash workshops baby spots affiliate up. People are watching the classes. It's a good time. It's real time you know what i mean. Drill time shirt. go that play. And let's hear from one of the former students now if we could who had a successful run at that class. Larry is yeah. My name's larry take a real good class things to do and mark dagley already. Thank you so much for being here. Oh it's always a delight. Thanks for having me working folks find your wares. Should you wanna share them. I'm online At mark gags on everything and I have Podcast with how love and called. We got this with mark and hal So check that out on maximum fund. That's been going on a couple of years. Now here's years yes. Thank you very. Well and craig krakow's skate. Thank you so much for being here as always all my pleasure. Sorry if i wasn't a hundred percent you know concentrated during this Recording because i was finishing which board the entire time and tony contain rest in peace was fantastic in it and that we g board man the demon that it contained it was scary so absolutely. Check it out. It's only vhs at and Good luck finding funny. Yeah and thank you craig Whose wifi we will fix between now and next time just to get Our producer and engineer the stars mr. Doug bayne the hell off our backs. James thank you very much for From chicago land and Still looking for that address at crystal lake whenever you're comfortable and I will text you my address to send me a key. So i can go break into your place and Solve your problem thank you. I appreciate it with garbage and trash. And let's thank our in prison stars. Mr doug bayne remember.

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"chris shaw" Discussed on Talk Radio 1190 KFXR

Talk Radio 1190 KFXR

04:03 min | 1 year ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on Talk Radio 1190 KFXR

"Yes, Lord. Yeah. You hit me. Yes, Donna Makarkin was doing a concert. Have the astral world. And they had a concert facility out there if you remember And I was on City Council and he was a big supporter. He had cut campaign spots for me and supported me from areas always very good to me, brought me out on stage and people wondered why in the hell I was out there, but I didn't realize that time. I was just excited about on stage. We're hanging out. Backstage after the concert. And this woman comes in. And we're in this. They had a really nice green room. Believe it or not for the astral World Arena Stadium there. This woman comes walking in with these two big bags, like like in pretty woman when she got all that stuff. She said. Which one of y'all want some yard bird? I had never to my knowledge. I had never heard chicken referred to as yardbird. And since then it's the only thing it was called Southern Star Amphitheater. You're right. You're right. Anyway. This heavyset black woman comes in in the most sensual, seductive way. But maybe that's just fried chicken gets me all horned up. She comes walking in with these two big old bags in each hand. Two big old bags, one in each hand and she comes shimmying in and she says. Which one of y'all want some? It's yard bird, and I wasn't sure if she was the yard bird or the Byard bird was in the bag. But she brought it out and she laid it out. And I was like, Come on, Get in here. Get in and get you some of this. We just dove in and I'm gonna tell you something. That's one of the greatest moments of my life eating fried chicken with Donnie McClurkin and his whole band backstage. We had to pray over first, and it was a long you know, he's a pastor. And, uh, Amityville, and he put a little sermon into the prayer and I was that fried chicken was smelling good. About six weeks ago, I had a little back porch party, little picking party. And the morning of I can't decide what I'm gonna do. So I I called Chris Shaw, who runs good company restaurants. And I said, Hey, it got about 30 35 guys coming tonight. I want something that will be nice, and we did stakes last week. What should I do? So why don't you do are fried chicken because good company opened up the old Armadillo palace as a to go fried chicken and comfort food called Good Bird. And I said, uh, I hadn't thought about that. Listen Yeah, Yeah, well, he was coming and leave. Our good was coming. Said Don't worry. We'll bring it with us. Don't you worry. And they did. And I'm gonna tell you every I'll never forget Andy Jackson he on South Texas asphalt. After he was through eating and it was still grease on the side of his face, and Greece was here, he said. You know how long it's been since I've eaten fried chicken is one of those guilty indulgences that we just don't eat enough. You're right, remote, says name of food that travels as well as fried chicken there in one is true and the name of food taste better in the morning pizza makes a run but runs out of gas market. Seeley go. Michael I've listened to you for several years a lot of years, and you finally came up with something that I can help with. Glad that's fried chicken cooked fried chicken. The first thing you have to do.

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"chris shaw" Discussed on 600 WREC

600 WREC

02:39 min | 1 year ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on 600 WREC

"And since then it's the only thing it was called Southern Star Amphitheater. You're right. You're right. Anyway. This heavyset black woman comes in in the most sensual, seductive way. But maybe that's just fried chicken gets me all horned up. She comes walking in with these two big old bags in each hand. Two big old bags, one in each hand and she comes shimmying in and she says. Which one of y'all want some? It's yard bird, and I wasn't sure if she was the yard bird or the Byard bird was in the bag. But she brought it out and she laid it out. And I was like, Come on, Get in here. Get in and get you some of this. We just dove in and I'm gonna tell you something. That's one of the greatest moments of my life eating fried chicken with Donnie McClurkin and his whole band backstage. We had to pray over first, and it was a long you know, he's a pastor. And, uh, Amityville, and he put a little sermon into the prayer and I was that Frank Chicken was really good. About six weeks ago, I had a little back porch party, little picking party. And the morning of I can't decide what I'm gonna do. So I, uh I called Chris Shaw, who runs good company restaurants. And I said, Hey, it got about 30 35 guys coming tonight. I want something that will be nice, and we did stakes last week. What should I do? So why don't you do are fried chicken because good company opened up the old Armadillo palace as a to go fried chicken and comfort food called Good Bird. And I said, uh, I hadn't thought about that. Listen Yeah, Yeah, well, he was coming and leave. Our good was coming. Said Don't worry. We'll bring it with us. Don't you worry. And they did. And I'm gonna tell you every I'll never forget Andy Jackson he on South Texas asphalt. After he was through eating and it was still grease on the side of his face, and Greece was here, he said. You know how long it's been since I've eaten fried chicken is one of those guilty indulgences that we just don't eat enough. You're right, remote, says name of food that travels as well as fried chicken there in one is true and the name of food taste better in the morning pizza makes a run but runs out of gas market. Seeley go. Michael I've listened to you for several years a lot of years, and you finally came up with something that I can help with. Glad that's fried chicken cooked fried chicken. The first thing you have to do.

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"chris shaw" Discussed on The Last American Vagabond

The Last American Vagabond

05:06 min | 2 years ago

"chris shaw" Discussed on The Last American Vagabond

"It means that they're concerned about that. Exact question and yet they'll happily scream at you about the fact that that's crazy talk. It says if the tissues were the technology where the technology localize is the rene include the reproductive organs. It is conceivable that some instances of germline alteration meaning that it permanently alters your genome might be possible and guess what the study found. The commercial product was found in the testes. Here's the documentation right here as well as by the way the brain and the coleman now recognized that this is alarming that they're talking about these genetic material that they're putting they're telling you will immediate will just disappear right. How many times have we heard that that. they're telling. The protein will work for months and it will go away at all. Just flush away and it's all good. Oh or maybe not. Maybe there's a reason or maybe they're just incompetent or maybe there's much more going on here than we know about. It says the answer to the question of whether the vaccines might change the human germline. Introducing hereditary variation is likely but again he says the frequency which such an event or whom it might be. More likely is just unknown. And that's the point we don't know and that's enough to be concerned now neuroscientist. Chris shaw recently discussed study with big tree on the high wire focusing primarily on the issue that the viral protein was found in the brain. Remember we just. We just showed you the doctor talking about exactly that. How much of this goes. In the brain using nanoparticles and can be expected to induce the innate immune response in the brain potentially contributing to mike Microbial activation immune cells in the brain that are stimulated to respond to viral infections or other foreign substances. The question of whether you should be concerned or not as a personal one he says. But it says we have learned from dr anthony. Fao cheap that the emory vaccines might not actually confer immunity and it might not prevent transmission and point is they won't because they didn't pay to do that tells ax himself. Said it says and also dr fauci. The current vaccines might not prove effective against new variants of these things are being floated and yet nonetheless. We're still being pushed on this. As if this is an answer. But i think it's quite clear guys that the science at the very least is not over. It's not done. It's not complete which is never the case by the way only liar say that scientists never finished. It's always open ended with new information coming in every day. Right i mean if we have dot gov that forever but here we can clearly see that. There's enough evidence to suggest that this is possible. I would argue much more than that but just to be completely objective here the end of the day. This is a big deal and does a lot of very intelligent people. Dr lions wiler. Phd telling you that. This is very likely or at least likely as well as multiple studies..

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Why won't NFL teams hire minority coaches?

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

11:19 min | 3 years ago

Why won't NFL teams hire minority coaches?

"Three head. Coaching spots have been filled this week. But none of those. Three coaches were minorities while the Rooney rule has been followed. Some are beginning to believe that minority forty candidates are not being taken seriously for the open jobs and anonymous African American. NFL Assistant Coach said that the League has quote finally shown. It's not the place as for black men to advance. It's ridiculous it's disgusting. We can sell tickets and make plays but we can't lead Shannon. Why isn't the Rooney rule role working? Well I think until skip this diversity thing yeah. Diversity is a great great to talk about but until you get someone the leadership position that says you know what. I don't just want to talk about it. I want to be about it so until you get older ships that actually wants to put some substance to this and this is what that you're GonNa get now if the general manager there's one general manager that's what minority and that's CR- Chris greer in Miami. There's zero owners that are it shouldn't say minorities. I guess because shot con radically a minority. But when you get the gist of what I what. I'm trying to say until leadership gets more diverse. You're I'm not gonNA have a more diverse hiring background skills. This was puzzling to be. Is that Eric. Enemy has the exact Zac job that Matt Nagy had negative and call plays any recall. Please man they can get the job. Doug Peterson sedinko plays true. Recall to play around Rivera's on but Ron Rivera was not the defensive coordinator in Philly. He he became a D. coordinator what's he got to the D. Coordinator in Chicago. You are you in San Diego. Yeah but he got his getting these enter coaching tree. Eric B enemy has the exact same job. That Matt Nagy Doug Peterson has and he's not getting opportunity is spirit but this. I don't really think that they go into it. Unless you incentivize this. Okay if you how minorities kill we maybe you have an extra three to five five dollars and cap space. That's the only thing that resonates with these owners because I get it skipped if I spent three billion. Let's just say I spent three billion dollars for a restaurant run. You Go tell me what the hell I need to cook. Cook whatever I WanNa Cook it there. And that's how they look at it. Jerry Jones spent money for this. This this mind you oh tell me why should get killed but but this notion that Oh and they brought Muhiba Marvin Marvin Lewis. He brought him in to to do that. Situation wasted the same with the giants the giants they had irebi enemy. They what Joe Judge Chris Rashard Rashard. Excuse me Chris Restoring. Yeah so now. Now we're down to one. Vacant Cleveland Reunion. I'm talking about how good already know. Angle get no frills JAYCO network skill. He already interviewed there. So you would now now the take my name off the leader and solid rubber solid. Take my name off the list. Because he's GonNa get Mad Max two and a half years if you're lucky that seems to instead that's all Jimmy can stomach now if you look at it they keep these. You look at Mike Patton. You look at all the guys they've had and these guys have had I think. Hugh Jackson stayed the longest at two and a half years. But everybody's been two years the list huge only two and a half two and a half long but you get you get these other guys you get pretty kitchens and you look at patent and you look at a I forget. Just give all these one year jazz. WE ACHE AAC CLEVELAND. That in Cleveland of the North this skill ruining rules a joke. I get it. You know minorities Cadillac. An affirmative action thanksgiving. Yeah but in -firmative action. I guess it's federal dollars. You'RE NOT GONNA get the money if you don't do this. The NFL is a is a private entity. So what can you do. What Ki- what can you give? Nfl Do not the so. I have been tracking this for a long time because one of my best friends is John. Wooten who is now the retired leader of the Fritz Pollard. Alliance and he was the driving force behind instituting the Rooney rule as I hiring practice in the national shirow all league and John's point from the start was I just need interviews because if a young assistant coach gets interviewed a couple of times times it gets reported in his name gets out there and if another owner sees that name enough over maybe a couple of years hiring cycles else maybe an owner says chee that guy. He's getting a lot of interviews. Maybe I should bring in. Maybe I should be more open minded to him. But if you're GONNA curse because if I get a a lot of interviews and I'm not getting hired was wrong why here the me getting hired cave liability with that. But John's point in the end was I'd rather have interviews than not have interests. Okay okay so let's go back to the stat that I use last week. The Institute of Diversity and Ethics In sports twenty nine thousand nine racial and gender report card for the National Football Bali. The League got actually an a plus for hiring of color. Assistant coaches right a sit a plot. Oh that's progress right. It got a deep loss for hiring head coach of Color White eight-plus assistance d-plus head head coaches. There's a big disconnect there and it shows you. That owners are fine. Oh hire two or three black assistant fine with that but nope nope. I don't want to head coach to be black. Right gives quite to the restaurant you can cook. You'll be in the bank but Michelle not the bridge. I roll up now okay so when I texted back and forth last we can use this last week of John Wooten just beside himself now. He is devastated by this this development his point was that only one. GM Chris Grin Miami. Point out is use. John's word heartbreaking because it could start with the GM right a black GM of or of color could be more open minded to say to the owner. Hey listen this guy is really bring him in. Let me let me introduce him to you right. The conduit to the owner can be stronger. Iran have I don't know six or eight black. GM right right. We've had them around the league four or but all of a sudden there's a dearth to rape Barma with Barma within Cleveland. He'd Gone Rick Smith who I know very well be in Denver. He interviewed for The Washington. Ashington John Daniel Snyder said head coach could be a head coach. Basically general manager after the Washington like who are the head coaching after the draft. The General Mattis. Okay so sometimes there is group think or shink sheep among the owners because in the end they do want to win right. And if they're looking around the League league and that black head coaches really successful they say well I want one of those. I want to go that direction right well. There was one black head coach who started to have success late in the year ear and he happened to be allied with Chris. Clear in Miami and Brian Floors off the Patriots. Well they started out all time badge for about what seven seven games fifty. Nine seven opening renders and then they basically it felt like they turned the whole roster iside down which they needed to do and then all of a sudden the last nine games they go five and four they upset the eagles and then they went to foxborough and just basically ended the season. I thought for the new New England Patriots playoff teams right. Okay so all the sudden Brian floor floor with the help of Chris greer. They're having big success. It looks like it's headed in the right drug us us but it wasn't enough of a splash to create momentum through the hiring process and right because John Wooden again texted me back with so many names he said we have so many in the pipeline. Who already started with Eric? B Enemy and Chris Rock. I think Chris Shaw Bad Year on defense but when I watch him interviewed when I watch his body language. It's a stunt man he's he's got. CEO Written all over him. He looks like a commanding officer to me. There's not enough black head coaches skip. Because because you look you look at Mike McCarthy guest job he hires the guy that gave him his opportunity coordinator fifteen years ago so you see the circle. We'll skip once you become a head coach. What do you do you go to the combine? You go to say elbow you got your drake. He goes to the coaches meeting and Yada Yada Yada and to connect with the boom boom boom right right. So if I'm not in that Lou. How do I get into loops? Because a rid of staff they said eighty percent of the jobs are never posted so in other worth people get hired somebody a friend or family member is not what you know who you know There in live the roof. It does house so to finish John. Bruton's list of pipeline candidates being AMEE. Chris Rashard Robert Sala. He threw Jim Caldwell on his list. Is Jim Colwell was highly successful zestful. Jim called wheel lost his jaw. Going nine and seven in two years Matt Patricia has nine total win and he's still got a job now he goldwell still doesn't have another job he in four years. He went to the playoffs twice in the last year he went nine and seven and they said well you know we need to move in a different direction. uh-huh and the guy that's replaced has yet to win nine total games in two years. Do you still own a still on the clock. Okay Steve wilks got one shot in time. I'm one year in Arizona and he was gone. He's now the defensive coordinator in Cleveland which probably didn't help his cause this year that much but I don't hear his name no in Cleveland right right on the list. And then there's Terrel Austin who's young stripes potential star coach and John Wootton into his list with Marvin Lewis who he thinks deserves a second shy right. Okay so Jerry. Jones did observe in qualified for the Rooney rule by bringing in. I Marvin Lewis. I think Jerry was shrewd operating waiting there. Because he didn't pick a young like like Chris Rashard type interview him because of Jerry had interviewed a young potential upcoming head. Black coach right. There's more pressure on Jerry. What was wrong with right? What's the problem exactly? He went to Marvin Lewis because he thinks Marvin Lewis is kind of old news right right. He got his longtime time shot in Cincinnati. Listen I still think Marvin did a good job job seriously. Yes okay he went. Oh and seven in the playoffs but still it was Andy Dalton Alton you re you with covering the NFL and you remember what Cincinnati before. Marlene got there was John. Carter number one overall. You Got David Cleland with the fourth. The fourth picket. You got big day to day and Wilkerson purse around the second pick in the draft year after year after a year people. Forget what I know. Marvin didn't win a playoff game. But they weren't even getting close to the playoffs for Marvin got there. No so I was disappointed in Jerry because you know my heart Hartz. I'd love to see Jerry Jones higher black head coach and I think I probably won't live long enough or Jerry will live long enough to know.

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What is a Vaccine Adjuvant?

One Life Radio Podcast

15:13 min | 4 years ago

What is a Vaccine Adjuvant?

"Our special guest today. Neil Z Miller. He is a medical research, journalist and the director of the think twice global vaccine institute. He has devoted the past thirty years to educating parents and health practitioners about vaccines encouraging and form consent and non mandatory laws. He is the author of several articles studies and books on vaccines, including Miller's review of critical vaccine studies. Neil has a degree in psychology and is a member of Mensa international. And it is always an honor. And pleasure to have you on one life radio. Welcome back. How you doing today? Neil grew. Thanks for having me back today. I appreciate it. I always appreciate your work and what you're doing to educate the world about vaccines and their safety today. Specifically, we're speaking about aluminum. So let's start with this basic question for people that really might not know a lot about vaccines that they. There, there are avent's added to them in order to make them more effective or for the delivery. So what exactly are ad edge of events? And what types of events are there will the main Atrovent that's being used in vaccines. Today is aluminum, and there's different types of aluminum, but, but the reason that the aluminum is added to vaccine is because the, the attenuated germ, okay. So basically, you've got the, the, the German self the, the micro organism that is likely to cause the disease. They take that microorganism and they attenuated or weaken it. And that's the main component of the vaccine, but it doesn't induce enough antibodies by itself, generally speaking with some vaccine. So they add aluminum which really just irritates the immune system. The immune system recognizes the, the aluminum as, as really as foreign object. And so it, it, it helps to awake in a higher concentration of anybody tires. So that's the main reason aluminum is Najim added too many vaccines to help stimulate a stronger immune response, and increase vaccine efficacy. But aluminum is taxing. Absolutely. In fact, there's no known biological purpose value or function for aluminum in the human body everywhere. That now by the way, it is very pervasive. One of the most pervasive elements on the earth, but it has no biological function. And so it, it's a neuro toxin and in fact, that's, that's what the mainly what the study's find. That's what I summarized, you know, like I said. Aluminum is added too many vaccines, and so children that received these vaccines are getting multiple doses of aluminum in an injectable form. Now, some people say that Lumina m- is not a big deal that, you know, you, but, but the, you have to differentiate between or orally, ingested aluminum and injected aluminum, we're warned to not even use aluminum foil anymore unless you like parchment paper in between because of the taxes city of aluminum other studies now that are showing a link between aluminum and Alzheimer's disease aluminum dementia, it, definitely, there's no question. There's literally there's literally thousands of studies showing that aluminum. I'm talking studies outside of the world of vaccine just. Thousands of studies that show that aluminum itself is a neuro toxin and is also capable of, of causing immune immune now functions. It's going next with this because I had read that numerous studies provided credible evidence that aluminum adversely affects important biological functions. Like neuro degenerative diseases and auto immune disorders up -solutely, that's the biggest problem is because it c- see when you when you ingest aluminum now luminous is dangerous to any kind of life-form, whether it's an animal, or human, and well we're animals as well, but. And that is dangerous. But when you ingest it as long as you don't ingest too much at once setting that most of that aluminum when I say most we're talking ninety nine point seven percent. You can you can eliminate it through the normal home in Tori functions of the body. But, but when, when that aluminum is injected the studies are showing that it lodges itself into different different organs of the body, and, and they're finding injected aluminum over a year later. They're finding it's still lots in different parts of the body, including the spleen and the brain it bypassed. Now here's the here's the interesting thing is some studies show that it's actually the smaller concentration. Of aluminum that are more dangerous, because they don't because the blood brain barrier does not block it. It's able to, to bypass the rain barrier and go directly into the brain. So this is off the record doctor medical doctor. Obviously, I'm not gonna say his name he didn't want it. He didn't he he, he doesn't even want to talk about it on the air, but told me off the record that there's no way that you can inject a child body with, with aluminum and it into a muscle and it not make its way to the brain. That's, that's absolutely. That's absolutely true. That's what the studies are showing. So, you know, I mean, I don't know why you can't speak on the record because he scares. There's plenty of studies that, that document that down fact in my book, and my latest book Miller's review of critical vaccine studies where I summarize over four hundred studies that are critical vaccines. I have a chapter in there on aluminum, and in that chapter, I summarize, I don't know one or two dozen probably about two dozen studies that, that document is the, the, the hazards of, of aluminum vaccines. For example. Here's a study that, that was conducted by Dr Chris Shaw. And Dr siege CJ, Thomas genyk aluminum in the central nervous system, toxin human as humans and animals vaccine edge in auto, immunity. This in summary, this study found that aluminum vaccines can cause autoimmune and early jiggle damage so that that's pretty common and just to tell you how common vaccines are for example, in the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia and many other nations, infants and children, receive high quantities of Lumina for moldable injections of several vaccines. For example. Okay. The following vaccines contain aluminum, the tetanus vaccine would, you know, the that's combined the P? So, for example, they give babies diptheria tennis in plus vaccine that can. Aluminum the, the hib vaccine for influenza type b that contains aluminum hepatitis A contains aluminum hepatitis b contains aluminum and, and the pneumococcal vaccine contains aluminum. Now, they're giving these vaccines, for example. They're giving DTA. They're giving the protest fact seen at two months of age. They're also giving the, the hepatitis b vaccine, two months of age, they're giving the pneumococcal vaccine at two months of age, and they're giving the hib vaccine at two months of age. So these are four separate vaccines, each containing their own, high concentrations of aluminum. So, so it's so they're getting four high doses of aluminum, when they get their vaccine to two months of age. Then this is repeated again at at, at four months of age. And then again at six months of age. And so it's extremely. Concerning extremely dangerous and a recent study came out in his shown that today fifty four percent of all children, have a chronic ailment, which includes things like attention deficit disorder, which I have summarized studies showing that attention deficit disorder has been linked to the vaccines. And so, so these chronic ailments, people have to look around and say, what do you mean fifty four percent? We're talking with an half of all children today have kind of illnesses. Where's this coming from? Well, I'm working on a paper right now that has found evidence that all of these conditions. Okay, fifty four percent of the of children, have these chronic ailments. These are these are twenty two different ailments, okay that these children have, and all twenty two of these ailments, can be linked to vac. Seen damage. Well, so, so this is something needs to really, really get a handle on and really just recognize that when, when we say that when, when you hear people saying that vaccines, save lives. Well, if you look at. We know that with some flaxseeds they reduced the incidence of the disease. There's no question that when the measles, vaccine was introduced it reduced the number of cases of measles. But what are the trade offs? That's always what we need to look at. What are the trade offs, and, and the studies document that there's increased rates of diabetes increased rates of, of allergies increased rates of autoimmune diseases increased rates of, of learning disabilities, increased rates of so many different types of diseases. So we have to look at everything in from the larger picture, we can't just say that, that this particular vaccine was introduced lower the number of cases of disease at what cost, that's what always needs to be looked at. I'm reading the paper, according to the American Academy pediatrics, which is the AP aluminum is now being implicated as interfering with a variety of cellular metabolic processes in the nervous systems and another tissues. And so, you know, if the pediatric community knows this information. Why are they still pushing the agenda that all vaccines are proven safe? You know, I, I think that I think that there's just so much influenced by by big pharma, and you have to understand the regulatory agencies and I'm talking about the CDC the FDA and on international level, even the World Health Organization. These these workers Asians have been captured by by big pharma. They've been captured by the pharmaceutical industry and and what do I mean by that? I mean that there's so much evidence and document this in some of my papers and document. This in in. There's there's so much evidence right now that for example, in my in my book Miller's review of critical vaccine studies in the chapter on, on mercury mercury in vaccines. And by the way, there's still mercury Invex in vaccine or giving this to pregnant women and two infants. How ridiculous is that, that, but, but the point I'm making is the CDC in the year nineteen ninety nine they conducted their own study to look at at, at whether or not mercury in vaccines is dangerous. And, and they found that babies that got mercury in vaccines. What they did is they took a large group of kids, the and half of the kids got got got vaccines, with mercury and the other half of the kids got the same vaccines, except without the mercury, and then they've they've fast forwarded to, to, to several years later, and then they added up. How many kids in the wound group were eventually diagnosed with autism, and that the kids that got that those mercury containing vaccines were had had eight they were eight seven point six times more likely to be to have been diagnosed with autism. So, so we're talking about I high statistically significant study conducted by the CDC showing that mercury in vaccines will cause autism. Okay. So, so my point is, is that they did not remove mercury. They required it. They required. More people to actually get needed some from some scenes, and then required. More children to receive it and pregnant women to receive it. So, so what is the why am I mentioning this? Well, because it's important for everybody to know but also because it shows some insight into the fact that the that the CDs. C which is supposed to be a regulatory agency looking after for the health of every children has been captured by big pharma has been captured by the industry. They are just a marketing arm of the industry in my opinion, from for my research, the CDC and the FDA, and we'll help organization too, because there's a lot of evidence that the World Health Organization is covering up a lot of a lot of dangers associated with vaccines. So, so people need to realize that when you've got the, the American Academy of pediatrics you'd think, don't they don't they care about these children, the number that the thing that the Dr Blaylock he's, he's a neurosurgeon a brain surgeon. He, he did a forward to my other one of my other books fact, the vaccine safety manual doctor Blaylock in that foreword. He has he presented. He said amazing forward. He's, you know, it's an. Amazing bit of information. Yeah. One of the important things that he says, and he provides evidence for is that the vaccine program itself is sacrosanct above everything else, even above children's lives. The vaccine program must be saved at all costs. It

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