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"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Humid. Badeah, the game is next. To manifest everything from the Director of Seven. What is it? It's a game they know who you are. As you get this number, they know what you live his save the questions left. And They Want. Everything. Michael Douglas. ME. Sean Penn more to make stock. The game. Starts Friday September twelve but a theater near you. Chris Ryan Earshot Fantasies here we had David. Finch. Week last week were carrying it over on Monday of this week. But it's seven for the Rewatch Bose last week nineteen, ninety, five movie..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Probably. Facing. The guy would to. Oh in two thousand fifteen. Yeah I duNNo, I guess spacey I I I don't know I think for twenty years it was spacey but now. That this movie has kind of shifted a little bit how we think about it. I. Think his Macquarie Because. You look at all the good things that happen coming out of it. But in the moment like ninety, five spacey having seven and usual suspects right next to each other and when in the Oscar just felt like he was. You know it was like his Tommy Lee Jones moment basically where this guy had been around a little bit we're familiar with them. Then all of a sudden it's like Oh this guy now he's going to be in. He now lead movies right? Right which I don't feel like I felt that way until the end of that year. So who would you say now? I think you're right I think it's mcquarry. Stephen but Stephen Baldwin. My Heart. We forgot to the point how? You remember that famous story about starship troopers where everyone knows it's a you know a parody movie except for Casper Van, Diem who he's playing a completely serious all time. In Baldwin thought he was in dog afternoon here. Actually I think he thought he was the star and I think they had made it clear to him like this. Yeah. Yeah. You're the Deniro, this movie and he carries himself with this swagger the whole way like he's the biggest star in the movie and he's not even one of the biggest stars but I enjoy that piece as well. So you gotta do we hit everything I think I got. We got everything on my end I'm glad we did this. This was an important movie Thanks to spotify. Thanks to Chris Ryan Will Bat. We're going back to Now the footballs back once a week now for the re watchable is for the next two months but we have some really good ones coming. Anniversary movies coming up on. Ninety five five was a great year. All right. Good to.
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"The Greatest Trick Chris Ryan ever pulled was convincing people he didn't exist. And just like that. He's coming up right after this. The greatest. Trick. The devil ever pulled was convincing the world didn't exist goop is Kaiser Sosa anybody goes into Five Matt must find a bit. Before it destroys all. Of the finish this thing here. Like it's Gone. The usual suspects rated R.. All Right Chris Ryan is here. It is the twenty-fifth anniversary thereabouts of one of the most influential important. impactful re watchable nineties, movies that we had.
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Everything ends badly otherwise it would end except for this podcast because it's going to be a delight cocktails coming up. In need the modern good to meet me and me come. Everybody drink. My rum specialties perhaps. I'm not like all men either. You are in original. Woman buttons were popping skirts arise. Can see the color of the paint you know you got. With me son I'll make you A. This is the operates. Up. Big. Time, you're ready for the big time young Mrs. Meghan. And ejected handling. All Right Sean Fantasy is hair Chris Ryan is here we are bad tackle. A very watchable movie that also doubles as the greatest bad movie of all time, and that is.
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"It is available on demand on Wednesday July fifteenth It will be available on HBO. Go. And Hbo now right away and I think that eventually it'll be on HBO Max as well so Please check this out. There is some we'll and stuff in this. If you like this movie that you like it, we also have Todd bridges in it. Mara. Wilson Milla Jovovich Evan Rachel Wood Jada Pinkett Smith the late Cameron Boyce. Who that was one of the last interviews ever filmed with them and I think it's really good. I'm really proud of this one. This was probably the easiest documentary experience I've had where it was like Alex's basically going. Here's the movie I want to do. Here's what the tone will be. Here are some of the people I get his interviews and then it just happened exactly how he said it was going to happen. He's really doubted so music by Jeff tweedy as well. Oh. Wow, look at that. Yeah, so check that out. It premieres Tuesday July fourteenth. Nine PM. On Hbo what's the best. I'm going I I the foremost fat Cheerio Kado. It's so funny that he then became jared married Rebecca Mainstay Amos and was Kush and his brother is on the bachelor, and you just never would have guessed it from this, yeah! It's and it's actually he's really good in this movie. Really. Yeah, I would say that he's probably the sneaky best out of the you. When you watch the first few times, you focus on the other three for variety reasons his part. There's a lot of nuance to it that you pick up the twentieth and twenty second time you're watching. He's really good. Young Keefer has aged the best when you think about the career that he ends up having, and he's three years away from being engaged to Julia Roberts. Being left at the altar. He's goes through his whole ninety czar key one. The Dion Waiters Award for few good men. Yeah, that's right. What was it? Lieutenant Market, said no the Market Sins Walsh. I can't remember who Oh Kendrick. Kendrick John Jonathan J Kendrick. Yeah we gave him a lot of love, and the few good manually smiles once is so movie. He basically what is a variation on his loss? Boys character to like it's basically. Vampire and shorter hair, but same asshole, yeah, Eve Evil Keefer, so then he turned into Jack Bauer. Kiefer, older keefer renaissance, and it's fun to see him as keeper. another the best leeches. Just leeches at a movie always works who. It's impossible to watch. Leeches not squirm in your seat, and just be uncomfortable. Nothing nothing like a pubis in groin injury to absolutely traumatize you like if you. I remember I got hit hit pretty hard under the Cup with baseball when I was catching and little league and I was like well that was it. This is I'm dead, I might. Just, kill me..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"In, these kind kinda subtly move in like wait. His friends aren't there anymore. And, then he sees the guy in the junkyard, and then he turns sees guys climbing the fence. And now he's got a outrun shopper WHO TURNS OUT TO BE A golden retriever? Corey Feldman ends up beyond the junk yard. Guy That whole scene that that that whole seems really good I love the moment 'cause I remember very clearly like Wayne in my life I started to go to the store by myself. And I read around this age. Yeah, and you're like. Your mom sends you to pick up milk or whatever, and maybe you're allowed to get like one thing for yourself, but the idea of like shopping for you and your friends for a couple of days. It's like I. Don't know if I would have been able to resist the idea of like not buying like seventeen boxes of nerds and like A. Blue Mountain Dew. That's what my wife said. Just seeing that store brought back, so many styled yet emory's. You know the the Glass Bottle Sodas terrible candy everywhere. There should have been baseball cards like the counter. That would have been a nice touch. Yeah, you get white thread and cold cuts. Yeah. That's really good. next scene. River has that speech about how Gordy has, GIF rating. And? You've got to pursue that Blah Blah Blah I. don't really have anything and you can take college classes. And ask what's asshole about wanting to be with your frat Ashley. If your friends Jackie Gown, you hang with us being otherwise with shifted brains. You could be a real writer. Some, Dee. Gordon fucked writing. I don't want to be a writer. It's stupid too stupid waste of time. Dad Talking Bullshit True I. Don't have that feels about. TV doesn't give a shit about you. Danny was the one he cared about. Don't try to different. Kid Gordie Oh gee, thanks to. The hello was your dad. Wouldn't be going around talking about taking these stupid shop courses if a was. God gave me something man although stories that you can make up. And he said this is what we got. We could try not to lose it. Kids lose everything unless there's someone there to look out for them. And, if your parents are too fucked up to do it then, maybe I should. It's really important and I'm always amazed. We talked about that sometime over the course of this podcast. When movies have just that one or two extra scenes where they just put in the two and a half minutes with two characters, where it's like I know you're telling me these guys are best friends. But why are they best friends show me that their best friends. And they're able to do it in like a hundred and fifty seconds, where just the interplay? That's like okay, get it now. These guys are fucking best friends. It's really essential. Those kids complete each other like Chris is a cool tough guy who does have a sensitive side and Gordy as sensitive kid who wants to be a part of a bigger world. Be Cool, and like you. It just clicks it in competition with them there and the way in which they're really not quite like vern and Teddy Yoda like, and that's an really comes through. It's it's. It's you're right. Well. It's like it's like how the current NBA teams were a great where it's like you got your two guys now. and. Then you have your rotating casts of Patrick Beverley Lou Williams, whoever the fuck and those guys are like the Gordy..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"What he could have become. It almost overpowers the movie and I mean in a good way. It's his movie. It belongs to him and it's impossible to watch it without just constantly thinking about what would this guy's career have been like or am I? Do you feel that way to watching it? Yeah, I think that there are when you think about like great performances or memorable performances by child actors. there. They usually fall into one of two categories. There's kids who are great at being kids like MacAulay, Culkin and home alone or Haley. Joel Osmond and the six cents right I would say he's the second category where he's incredibly precocious..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"July fourteenth. Yeah July fourteenth God. How's IT July fourteenth? New Documentary called show Biz. Kids directed by Alex. winter which I am. An executive producer of we spent the last two years trying to make it happen. We made it happen. One of the people in it as wil Wheaton. And we wanted to do a movie. Basically playing off somebody that was in the documentary, so we looked at all. The possible choices stand by me. is about as close to perfect of a thirty four year old movie as we're GonNa get, it's also timeless 'cause it set nineteen fifty nine by kids love it i. feel like their kids will love it. Is this movie a No hitter Chris Ryan absolutely like there? Is there a false note in this movie at all? I mean you could really really granular get into like. You can tell that a special effector you, you know. Maybe this part goes on a little long. But everything from the tone, the writing the performance is the sense of place, and the fact that it feels universal, but so so so specific to this experience. You know like any kid. Any adult probably will watch this movie Guy Yeah I have something similar like this, but it so very particularly set in this like weird. Stephen King World. I saw this movie I think when I was sixteen. And I just watched this movie over the weekend with my two kids. I think it hits me the exact same way. I don't even think it really matters than I'm a different age. It's timeless that however you felt about yourself and your twelve years old how he felt about the friends that you had back then. it's GonNa hate you that way it does. It does have some really crucial essential points about some people just pass through your life. He has that quote about You know sometimes you stay friends with somebody forever other times. They're like a busboy. That was in your life when you're eating dinner for two hours. And then you some other friends, and that's honestly what life is like as I get older, I think like I have a lot of friends. But you had these concentrated pockets of like Oh those three years at all I, did was hang out with these five gay. And then that other time during in this stretch. So when at the end of the movie, when is basically like? Yeah, vern went off. We didn't really see him again and then Teddy. Kinda lost his mind I heard. He's doing odd jobs like that. In a Lotta ways feels like the most realistic part of the movie right? Yeah, I think that the one way to look at it as like you know I. It's a well worn cliche to say you know you never forget your I love. I think you never forget your first friends like this. Way I have friends when you're seven or six or whatever and you're Kinda you just running around a lot? But like the friends you make right around this age. Right before puberty fully takes hold, and you know even says it won't point. Gordon says that the when they're sitting around the campfire..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Bakari Sellers podcast that launch this week and we have another podcast called. The camp chronicles hosted by Tyler tines six episodes. That's coming in mid-july. Stay tuned for a couple more announcements on that way. Coming up. Your Goddamn Sawed Book Captain Daddy better the world bobby the perfect storm. BACKOUT! What I'm headed East Flemish. Cat Capsules off the chart. That's where the fish oil for God's sake. Don't go another trip and the Andrea. Gail will own you like he owns. Tyne got a woman. I can't stand him more than two feet away from and again I love to fish. Where are you tell the banks kicking up something in the? Go to you trying to come on, you've seen a forecast I got a quarter. Million dollars with a fish has been spitting faxes every hour, the running out of scary word. Call four storm in recorded history. Is Accelerating. WHAT'S STARS? No force on earth can stop. He. Knows, please God get them. They're. Called the perfect storm. Chris Ryan here. My Name Is Bill Simmons it is the twentieth anniversary of movie. That was way more successful than I. Think I remembered that is. Pretty..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
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Beastie Boys Made a Movie. We Made a Beastie Boys Podcast.
"I'm Shawn Fantasy and this. Is the big picture a conversation? Show about Beastie Boys. That's right beastie. Boys made a movie beastie boys story which is directed by Spike Jones and available to watch right now on apple. Tv plus. If you're like me and worship Beastie boys you need to watch this movie later in the show. I'll be talking to add rock. And like diaw Beastie boys about their movie history their favorite fruits. How they're doing in quarantine. The New York Knicks documentaries that they want to see a bunch of other stuff as I tried to keep them focused on our conversation. A really love these guys beastie. Boys are my favorite band ever and it isn't even really close so to talk about them before we get to them. I asked the VIC Ferrari to my Alessandro Allegra. Join me it's Chris Ryan. Hi Chris. I've always seen myself more as a Nathan Wind Guy. I've been waiting my whole life to do this. Podcast so let's go. I'm very glad you're here with me. I can't think of anybody else. I'd WanNa have here other than you. Except maybe Mike the Inadequacy and they're coming later. So when I say beastie boys what's the first thing that pops in your head Chris? Probably the invention of cool so I think one thing that we've talked about a lot over the last twelve to eighteen months. We've had a lot of Quentin Tarantino podcasts. We've we celebrated a lot of his movies on the watchable. We talked about them on. Big Picture Podcast with him and something that comes up. Ally is kind of how he gave us a vocabulary or language to through which to understand culture and understand the world and I think the Beastie boys are equally responsible for that in both of our lives in terms of introducing us to so much music and so much other culture that wound up becoming just part of our like way in which we relate to the rest of the world through these like Kung Fu and exploitation movies through rap Reggae punk rock weird funk like all like it just basically made collectors and fans out of out of us at the risk of stepping on music exists. I wanted to ask you why you think you. And I to some extent to are so interested in figures who are all about basically like recombinant culture. You know who take all the disparate parts of stuff that they love and smash it all together because that is the thing that the movie and then returning to all of this music that I listened to over and over and over and over again in my life that I have thought about is like wow they really just jammed all the stuff they liked together to make something new like. What is it about that? The second part of what you said is the most important thing. Do you think about the people that we really respond to. Wu Tang clan quitting Tarantino. Beastie boys it means we're very basic very and B. It's the most important part is finding the second thing the thing that you're GonNa make out of all this shit. And that's what makes me so excited is when someone uses all these postmodern tools in these reconstructs. All these things out of this of Cultural Ephemera to say something else. Wootten Klan took all those Kung Fu movies and took all those samples but made something that could only have been made in Staten Island. You know back could only have made the music. He made with the experience that he had. And the Beastie boys could only have been the beastie boys by combining bad brains with run DMC. Yeah and I feel like it's not a mistake that so much of what we do at the ringer and so much of what you and I have been trying to do in. Our lives is basically celebrate and be enthusiastic about the things that we care about and I feel like these artists are the same way if you if you think about Beastie boys and you even look at the way they tell their story in the movie. It's just we really liked was the clash and grandmaster flash and Cheech and Chong and we were trying to find a way to make all those things make sense together and I feel the same way about what we do every day I feel about you and I love the NBA and we love Top Gun and we love. I love deb's I don't know how you feel Dad's but You know just trying to find a way to make all those things fit together so I feel like I have aped and tried to copy a lot of what those guys do. And I feel like a kinship to their their mission their creative project. Absolutely I mean like you and I don't mean to make it sound like you. And I are the Beastie boys here but you know. I think that we use the Internet the way other people would use a sampler right and we draw in all these different media. We'd take youtube videos. We take a picture and I think it was probably more the case before we started working professionally together in an editorial capacity but we would have like tumblers and blog spots and you were just kind of like throw a picture Steve McQueen up in an article you were writing about those face and it would have some sort of relationship and I think that that was our way of continuing along this tradition of mixing and matching different pieces of culture to say something about yourself. The thing that you said that I think is probably one of the most important parts of the movie that will nocco very remarked upon because a lot of it is going to be spent talking about. Yok and it should be because this is very much I think an image to him in a real moving tribute to their friend but when Mike D says in the beginning of the movie that he was just this weird kid who found the clash. Not only is that like. That's the origin story for a lot of people. Who like they find that one band? Whether it's the dead or the clash or you know run DMC. Whoever it is that makes them think that they are now. All of not alone in the world the clashes like a really really important. Template for the Beastie boys because they are basically A Crossroads Group A marketplace. At Crossroads Group. It's where all these different cultures are coming. And they're setting up their wares and you can pick and choose off these tables and then you go home and you make something out of it. And that's what the clash did too. I mean you can make a lot of arguments about appropriation. And whether or not the people who the clash were taken from or or paying homage to properly compensated for the work that they did And the same thing could go. For the Beastie boys but I think a lot more people know about Lee Perry. Because of the Beastie boys did not you know and and that's like a really really important act in culture. Everything is about timing too I think about when they hit the scene and who they were working with and on the one hand I guess there's an appropriation question. I think they've moved past that so effectively because they were just literally there with Russell. Simmons and Rick Rubin and run DMC making music together and they were a part of something that was essentially punk at the end of its first true like lightning rod phase at the end of the day and and rapid the Dawn. You know I mean. They weren't there necessarily in in the parks in the south. Bronx but you know one thousand nine hundred. Eighty three played on the radio. Yeah Yes yes. And there's that great moment in the movie where Africa is asked about cookie. Post by one of the members of the Beastie boys and you can see like they're they're they're they're in the moment and they're going to dense area and you know performing for white people introducing them to wrap it away and that couldn't have happened if they if it was just five years earlier five years later. The same is true for the class. You know it's like they arrived at a time when the world was ready to hear rock and try to play reggae. And what that means for the future reggae. There's something also about this specific approach to the world though that jumps out to me. Which is it's not. Just this is what we like. It's this is what we like and I don't care if you don't like it and I don't I actually don't care if you don't get it because when I think about the things that I knew when I first heard the band it was you could fit it inside of a very small box. I just did my cultural reference points. The music that I knew about the the records the comedy everything that they were throwing in. I wouldn't say that I discovered them because they were sampled for three seconds on a on a record on policy boutique but they were a window. You know I had never heard of Sadaharu. Oh until I heard the beastie boys rap about him you know like there's so much in their music the sampling the lyric writing even if it is in their songs are very rarely like high minded. They're not necessarily pursuits of big ideas. But they put big ideas in front of you. Just by dint of what they were interested in and I I liked that kind of take it or leave it quality they bring to it and I feel like that really comes out in the movie too. Don't you think yeah? It's only a couple of people are lucky enough to have other people care about the thing that they care about. You know you can. You can play the game and you can try. Ride the wave of what's popular at any given moment. But it's so weird because what the beastie boys did especially once they move to La. I think wound up having such an incredibly profound formative effect on all the culture that comes after it but it so it winds up being underrated as as to what a zag that was how crazy it was for those guys to be like. Yeah we'RE GONNA LEAVE NEW YORK. We're GONNA leave behind rapper. We're going to go to capitol from Def Jam. And we're GONNA work with these two producers that basically no one's ever heard of an assemble these like really out there incongruous samples to build together a new sound that we're gonNA use to define us for the next couple of decades. The only thing I wanted to talk about because I think is probably also a reason why you and I like them. Much is that and this comes across very much in the movie much
Top Five Mark Wahlberg Movies: Say Hi to Your Mother for Us | The Big Picture
"Unfortunately this Shithole has more fucking leaks in the Iraqi navy. Fuck Yourself. I'm tired from fucking your wife. How's your mother good? She's tired from fucking my father. You have a job Tom. I'm a firefighter. Oh God bless you a hero. I'm not hero. We'd all be here. We could use the petroleum. No excuse me Christmas. Utah a lot of fucking money. What did you do? I mean if you take away nothing else for my class from this experience let it be this. If you're not a genius don't bother right. The world needs plenty of electricity and a lot of them are happy and they can help. It really can't be that we can always do. Better let me keep trying. If you guys keep trying I'm shawn fantasy and this is the big picture. A conversation show about Mark Wahlberg. This episode may break the all time record for big picture dissonance later in the show. I have an interview with Kelly. Reichardt the writer and director behind independent film classics. Like old joy. Meek's cutoff in the new film. First cow which might be the best movie of Two Thousand Twenty so far. I hope you'll stick around for that but I were joined by the frog. Sheriff Chris Ryan. I heard that Mark. Wahlberg actually dropped out of first cow. He was gonNA play the cow Alao. But you're already doing animal. Humor here on driver too is calling. Chris. You're here because you're a fan of Mark Wahlberg work. He's The star of a new movie. That is hitting Netflix. This Friday called Spencer confidential. I think gets his fifth film with Peterberg. The actor turned director of such films as lone survivor and deepwater horizon. This is a very strange movie but I think it's going to be a a very watched movie because the corona virus is scaring America into staying inside their house. And so I think that there's a potential for a lot of viewership of this movie. So we're talking about Mark Wahlberg one of the most resilient and persistent movie stars. I guess of the past twenty five years so let's just start with WHO is Mark Wahlberg. How did this happen? That Mark Wahlberg became one of the signature figures of movies in the twenty first century. I would not say I'm a fan of Mark Wahlberg as like I'm a I'm agnostic as a citizen. Yeah I would say that. I am very interested in the way that he has conducted his career. Which is kind of a weird throwback to a studio systems our he makes three to four movies every eighteen months somehow and just releases them at like a hugely prolific rate at. I'm fascinated by all the little pockets of his career that he has created where he repeats. You know he goes back to these little micro genres that he and he works a lot of people over and over again by the way he kind of has conducted his career to me is almost unique among Hollywood movie stars anymore. I mean most of the time when people achieve a certain level success. They just like see in three years for my next blockbuster or award fodder and he's just like nope. I'm grinding out. Family movie violent action film and then every once in a while Raunchy comedy and it's just like pretty pretty like unique among all Hollywood stars so I'm fascinated. What do you make them Amanda? I was fascinated when going back to you. Remember how many great directors he's worked with and how many actually excellent movies he's been in. Chris was asking me how much we watching I had to do for this podcast and the answer is a lot. Because I wouldn't say that Mark Wahlberg stays with me besides certain shots that will certainly be discussed on this podcast but he especially I guess in the first decade of this century just goes on a tremendous run. I really from Boogie nights on and works with a does a lot of really great movies and then kind of decides to just become like the Peterberg comedy guy in the second decade of the century. And I it's a really interesting shift. He just Kinda decides no. I'm going to do this now. And it's very fascinating to me I can't really make sense of. I also is Christmas talking about his efficiency. Just pulled up his daily schedule. Do you guys remember the days? Will he wakes up. Like four o'clock in the morning posted this on his own instagram typical daily scheduled to thirty. Am Wake Up. What don't you forty five prayer time. Three fifteen am breakfast. There's a lot of work work. He's golfing from seven thirty to eight. Which is the golf people? And there's a chamber recovery at nine thirty that takes more time than golf workout number two lunches and our so our meeting slash work calls also an hour and he goes to bed at seven thirty PM and which in Los Angeles for. I'd say six at least six months of the year. That is still broad daylight. Yeah Yeah Su. There is real efficiency baked into this. He's clearly very deliberate guy. He's making choices. And I think that pertains to his daily life and also his his career. There is clearly thought going into this. It's not a type of thought. I can access. I still don't know why you would wake up at two thirty and I don't know why you would do like five deep water horizons. There's a rumor that he has a routine. I think you. I'm speculating here. But I think he's a member of Wilshire Country Club here in Los Angeles. My husband told me this last night and he likes to play alone. He likes to play. And that's why he's playing so early in the morning and he's trying to get in like a quick nine or quick eighteen. I don't know five days a week which I'm who among? Us would love to do that if I could wake up before five. Am I would do it. I'll tell you I would love to do that. I'll tell you something else I am. I find golf to be social and I get crippled like when I play by myself. I'm like all the neurosis is creeping like. Should I take another shot now like it really playing golf? If you're not playing with anyone can just tell you. He's got three snacks on the schedule. Including one that takes an hour and a half from eight to nine thirty. Am is snack after seven. Thirty to eight am golf. Probably a euphemism. Oh Okay so you think. His sessions are ninety minutes. So you're saying to jump off something. Amanda said You know who? He reminds me of a bizarre way Cruz. Where it's like that run. Where cruises like I'll just work with Barry Levinson Stanley Kubrick and Steven Spielberg and every great director at it seems like I'm just the most important factor in the whole world and then one day he wakes up and says I'M GONNA make action movies for the rest of my life? It's very unlikely though. I mean his origins restraints obviously member of this very well known family. He's from Massachusetts. He starts out as a a rap artist and ultimately becomes a Calvin Klein M. C. An. Mc Yes we watched the vibrations video. Recently I took my top five twenty two. Would you make of good vibrations? And and how did you feel about the funky bunch all these years later? It's just really bizarre that this was a thing that we lived through. Who is the funky bunch? I I still don't know who's in it. Were you in a Chris? Thought it was the backup dancers. I mean yes. That's who they were but like do you know anything about them and where they are now. I was pretty. Yeah I was pretty. I was pretty authentic back then so I was. I was already listening to deep deep newer. Grab I love talking about the early nineties with you. Can we talk about the Calvin Klein ads for a second really really important? You're almost put these on my list. And it's and my honorable mention boxer briefs. Yeah I was still a boxer sky back then that was not interested in the product. Would you just tear the ads out of the magazine? Crumpled them up and throw them in the garbage. I think that the those are the signature moment in his career without the advertising campaign he would not have become weirdly Tom Like sub Tom Cruise but he you know. He soared to a of fame on that ad campaign. They're just extremely important. Ninety s imagery obviously came as also in them. And that's where the whole K. Moss thing starts Them Hating each other. Great early celebrity feud they're very important that's all and also it looks great. I mean he and his image was of basically like a tough guy with a bad attitude whether that was true or not he obviously got into some altercations and his his personal history is pretty complicated. We're not gonNA spend too much time talking about on this show. But I think that he basically leveraged his complicated persona in the public into a movie career and if you look at the first few movies that he makes replays these kind of like weird intimidating Undeveloped YOUNG MEN. You know in the basketball diaries in. Ryen Russillo favorite movie fear And even in boogie nights. There's something like violently adolescent about his his persona which is very different from the kind of actor and movie star that he is right now so a lot of times. I think that we could. You could write like a series of essays about how much actors of his generation have attempted to mimic the kind of like rough and tumble blue collar upbringing. That Walberg apparently had like how how often like DiCaprio Damon or these guys have tried to be like no I'm Jim Carroll and he's just a function Carol I'm the real thing but it's weird like even in his authenticity. If you WANNA call it that he still lacks like any kind of emotional intelligence or psychological depth to portraying those things and you could write all these essays. But you could just watch the departed. Because that's what this does that. Do you need that from an actor? Do you need to feel like this person is like in control and has that depth that Chris was talking about? I think I do ultimately. I think that there is a reason that I gravitate to Matt Damon instead of Wahlberg. And I think that you not just because of the departed and the Boston. Bill will talk about that a lot as a comparison but I like I said I really remember a lot of Walberg performances. Even though he's been given a lot of great ones and I think that's because they have a I don't WanNa say surface level. That's unfair. They're actually a lot of depth but they aren't the emotional depths and I think I personally don't hang onto those. I think I'm always wondering how in command of the Ark of his career. He is because you pointed out he makes he's. I mean he's just been a lot of great movies a lot of movies that are going to stand the test of time and it always seems like he's being cast the way that a lot of young actresses or cast as the. Nayef as the like the naive and innocent who gets corrupted when put into a system and like did someone in a room. Say That to him. This is your lane man will early like you think so. Well I just don't think that he I think he's largely in charge of the movies that he makes. Now he's like. I think that the movies that we see our movies that Mark Wahlberg once made for the most part and my suspicion is the reason he made that transition. Amanda was referencing about just mostly doing action. Comedy movies now is because those movies are more fun and easier to make for him there either like a physical challenge there like a day on the set whereas making boogie nights as hard Russell Smart. Yeah I think that he is both like sinking very strategically as the schedule would suggest and also like not over thinking it i. That's the VIBE. I guess sometime at the end of the day he's going like it very much is what it is. He is a very Surface level or just immediate actor. That's that's what you're getting and so I think he wants. He gets to produce the movies himself and make the decisions. You just kind of like. Yeah action comedies. Got There before we get into our top fives and I think we should figure out what we mean. When we say top five if it's five performances or his top five movies because there's some complexity. There is a very strange celebrity. The the nine eleven thing is you're staring right at. It's just hanging over my head as I think about him as a public person. So in twenty twelve Walberg was quoted in a magazine interview regarding. What would have happened if he had flown aboard American Airlines Flight? Eleven on September eleventh. Two thousand one. He'd been booked on a flight on flight. Eleven but his plans changed the day before the scheduled flight and he cancelled his reservation. Walberg received public criticism for stating quote. If I was on that plane with my kids it wouldn't have went down like it did and there would have been a lot of blood in that first class cabin and then me saying okay. We're going to land somewhere safely. Don't worry Warburg apologized for those statements. But they're actually the sort of thing that kind of inform his public persona and when we watch him in an action movie. We think that he's the kind of guy who's like I would have kicked some ass on nine eleven which I don't know if you like complicates the quality of the films that he makes but I can't get stuff like that. Outta my head once I've read or heard about it and I feel like we've referred back to it even in a joking fashion over the years right. Yeah it is definitely one of the top three things that I think about. When someone says Mark Wahlberg schedule yeah nine eleven yeah and the last night of prosthetic but like you know. I'm human beings. It's the point of the movie full movie as leading to that so yes I agree. It's funny he is both. I think very funny as a comedic actor like entirely humorless and it's that some things he's in on the joke on some things he's just kind of being like no I would have save. I would have stopped nine eleven. Which is just a ridiculous thing to say. And that's the joke of Andy Sandberg's say Heidi Mother for me. Yeah you know portrayal of him is this is like he's kind of total rube but also not. There's something very elusive about. Whatever's going on with an entourage thing it's like. Do you watch entourage because you think it's completely ridiculous or do you watch entourage because you think it's like six awesome representative drama and I dare to say that Mark Wahlberg is like Yup? That's how it went. I you probably think you're right. Insulin entourage Ari comes on and it's really like Whoa but most but he's like that's accurate me. Like Vince is very much living my experience. He's like we should make a show about it. I think. I think that you guys are right. Do you think that this should be five performances or top five movies I choose? I don't know I don't know where I landed. I think I did I tried to be interesting here but I I wouldn't say that any of these performances leap out at me except for my number one and number two as like excellent performances. They're more like movies. I really like was he ever given a truly great performance. Yes I I think. There's one and a half great performances on this movie and it's just a half is the end of boogie nights. No no I. Well that might be the case now. There's another movie I still did performances but I think they are. They are a little bit also an award for the movie knowing how best to use him right. Okay well then let's get into it. Let's go into our top five Mark Wilbur performances slash movies number five Amanda. Why don't you start us off? This goes out to Bill Simmons and apparently to right who I still have never met. Hello Ryan. I'm going with fear. Why not whow revisit? Yes I did okay okay seen Djing
The Best Movie Soundtrack Songs Of 2019 | Movies
"I have a very special show today later. In this podcast I have an interview with Robbie Robertson one of the founding members of the band a significant figure in movie history as well. Who HAS COLLABORATED WITH? Martin Scorsese over the years. He has a new documentary that he participated in the basically tells the story of his life and the work of the band called. Once were brothers so I hope you'll stick around for that and inspired by that conversation. I had to invite on Ringer Staff Writer Rob Villa. Who is one of the funniest and smartest people I know about music? I Rob She's we'll thank you. It's an honor to be here of course alot rob you write about music and movies at the ringer as well and quite deftly and I think the use of music in movies has always been frankly an obsession of mine and I suspect that you are also a sophisticated thinker about this idea. Is that fair to say? Sophisticated is a strong word. But let's go with your role with your a guy who has a functioning brain that watches movies with music in them. Is that fair to say Aisha's? Amd during sonic the HEDGEHOG. That's the way I would describe my relationship with music and movies me I was that guy I feel like there's a lot we know there's a there's a conscientiousness about choosing songs in movies now because we grew up watching scorsese movies and then the movies of all the people who watched. Martin Scorsese movies and start making movies of their own and so the use of the pop song. We're not talking about score here. We're talking about pop music appearing in films you know what is your. What is your sense of? Who Does it well and sort of what goes into making a good choice for something that's really obvious or really obscure. I think the obviousness I see a lot more in prestige. Tv generally like that's the plate. Like any use of radiohead. Almost across the board. Like I I like a lot of Westworld but just the way that Westworld is uses those pop songs you know the old style piano version of pop songs. It's just you're just sort of leaching off that songs energy like the the cash that it already has and you're just sort of stealing and implanting it into your TV show or your movie like it's there's a difference between stealing a song soul and like taking a song and building a new universe around it like sort of recreating it in re-energizing it it's a it's a great point. I'll never forget the moment I watched the pilot of Ozark. Which is the last the last episode of ours. Ozark that I've ever watched and at the end of it Decks dark by radiohead began playing and I was like. Oh this is that JOE now. I mean no disrespect to say Chris Ryan. Who's a huge fan of that series but actually that choice indicated to me what the creators of the show thought they were doing and it wasn't for me you know it just didn't Didn't click with what despite liking radiohead and Jason Bateman and. I knew that there was a pretentiousness that I was not going to connect with their What do you think makes for a good song choice in a movie? I think it has to be at least a little unexpected. It has to re- contextual. Is it a little bit like I? There are instances where obviousness is what you need and I think there are a few of those and my list here but I I think. In general you need some element of surprise some just more gratuitous are just more surprising way of using it than what you would expect. Do you think it's important to saying something about character or the scene itself or because one of the things that that Robertson said when he and I talked which I thought was interesting was the he really likes the contrast he moments. That's the moment when you take a very sweet song. Said it against a very violent moment or you take a very sweet moment and give it something more braces and that's obviously a hallmark of a lot of the people that are best known for choosing songs and movies you know. Think of Quentin Tarantino or fincher. Scorsese are all these people that I talk about endlessly on this show. Do you think that the that music can play such a profound role in telling a story in that way? I think so. I mean you can go too far in that the phenomenon of every movie trailer now using like a really slow down creepy version of a pop song like you think. Fight THE FI. The fifty shades of grey beyond say series. You know like I suicide squad. I think did that. You know you can go too far in that direction and and just use it entirely as irony like. Here's a really sweet song to contrast with an ugly thing. But Yeah I mean. That's that's sort of an overused tropes at this point at the time in the heyday in the early reign of those people those directors like. Yeah that was a really effective use of contrast. So we're here to do a top five list. You'RE GONNA share your five favorite needle drops in movies and I'M GONNA share my five favorite needle drops. Now I don't know your picks and you don't know my picks you almost ruined this podcast by accidentally sharing those picks and I would like you. I'm I apologize profusely and I apologize for my choices. I think this is going to be yelling at me in the next twenty minutes. That's my concern. You know what my concern is is just being too basic right. There are some things that are sort of undeniably signature moments in movies and music especially in the last twenty to twenty five years when when I think this phenomenon has really picked up. Steam and my choices are not songs that were written for movies. They are entirely songs that had previously existed before the film came along. Is that true for you too? I think in all but one case my number five. That's not true but I think that's an important thing that you have to have a prior. Ideally you have a prior relationship with that song that the movie changes. That's what makes a really good moment for me. Not all of them but that's the platonic ideal. I absolutely love that. I probably have one song that that is out runs an opposition to that idea. But that's a great
The Five Most Important Movies at Sundance
"The game we made up is essentially the five bio-pics you meet in heaven so we tried to find the five different kinds of stories that are told in the biopic format. Thought it was pretty fun. I think it's useful to play a game like that at Sundance because there are a lot of homes on not all of them are great in fact some of them are great but when one is good it can be a kind of transformative experience and they usually come in a in a particular kind of package. Now when you think of of a sundance movie what do you think of. I think of a quiet often heartwarming family or rip character-driven dramas with maybe a little bit of quirkiness added to them. That is definitely at least one of the Kennedy talking about this episode also documentaries that's the other one lots and lots of documentaries so she should we dive right in. Okay let's dive right in the first and the most classical example of the sundance movie is exactly what you're describing. It's essentially the family family drama. The sometimes lighthearted sometimes deadly serious as we go through these we'll talk about Some previous examples of films that have played at Sundance that fit this rubric. So when you think of this movie more severe example of it might be winter's bone or fruitvale station or affliction more lighthearted example might be big night a genre fight example might be like take shelter So these movies I think Are the most derided of the Sundance archetype. That's true I was trying not to be dismissive when I was describing off the top of my head but as soon as you say Sundance movie there is just a as soon as you're categorizing categorizing rising things in. You're being unfair to the things which I guess we're going to be unfair to every single move. We talked about to extend. This is a podcast and we need buckets. We need segments. We need to push the conversational says. I wasn't totally totally trying to be dismissive of the family drama. There are good ones. There are bad ones. That's a fact You and I had the good fortune. I think this year to see one of the best movies at the festival and one that falls pretty squarely into this framework. So the movie's called minority We just got out of our screening of minority. What was your takeaway from this film? This is a story about out a Korean American family who emigrates to Arkansas in the eighties and there is a little kid in this movie movie that just absolutely ripped my heart out and and all the performances did and I thought that it is. It's the best case version of this because it's definitely moves you but it's also funny as you said right before we started recording. It's beautifully shot. Well written it smart and not to truly if that makes any does it's an eight twenty four or movie written and directed by a man namely Chung and he has an interesting gracefulness with what what appears to be his own story. I actually don't know anything about where the story comes from but when we were discussing earlier we identified that. There is an incredible level of specificity in the story. In the setting in Arkansas in a family trying to create a new life for themselves a new state and a new country trying to figure out how to stay married trying to figure out how to be good parents trying to figure out how to be good. Children had to be good grandchildren. It's a very complex. WCHS portrait of a family living in close quarters. Not Totally. Sure if they're going to be able to go forward with their lives in the way that they wanted to and all that stuff I still. I'm kind of does a disservice to the movie because that just sounds like Sundance Hokum And I think the movies a little bit more special than that now. Are We experiencing the festival high on a movie perhaps. Perhaps it's possible but as I was watching it I think you'll probably see a lot of comparisons to the farewell about this movie as the year goes on and not just because it's from an Asian and filmmaker but because it's a particularly a story about three generations and how three generations interact with each other and some of the confusion that happens when one culture collides with another culture in place that they don't fully understand the farewell. It's obviously Luang main character. Visiting China Grandmother. This film is a Korean American family moving into a rural place. The thing I liked about it the most is that it doesn't apply the usual tricks that you would think a movie movie like this about a non white family. Moving into the south in the eighties. Might incorporate a little bit more subtle and sophisticated when I heard the word Reagan Reagan early on in the film. I got a little nervous. And there is a lot of thoughtfulness about the socioeconomic aspect of the story. But it's not there. No burning crosses in this movie there is no. You know vindictive vitriolic language about the family. It is really just a family story which I was kind of relieved about honestly it's really insular and it's explores the relationships between between all of the members of the family pretty specifically and individually and but and that's enough that kind of fills up the movie. Yes so since. We've you've never been here before. I kinda wanted to talk about a movie like this. I think this movie might fit into another category and other sort of bucket. We've created here but I've never been able to witness in real time. I am the life cycle of film. That May Be in the consciousness for the next twelve months and to be on the ground floor when that thing happens did you have that sense when you're watching this or did you just feel like well. I've been seeing a lot of movies this week and I'm doing my best to take stock of all of them. I think it was the ladder with their recognition that I thought this was a very good film in one of the best films. I've seen this week. I'm I'm trying to protect against festival buys. I don't I don't know. Do you feel like so. You need to to start some festival buzz right here. I don't think I'm capable of such a thing. I need to know my own power which is minimal nor do I and I think I'm more I have never been to sundance either and I'm treating it more as what you said. It's interesting to watch it happen. And I'll be curious to see how other people respond to it and what it is like to watch it in the screening leaning room whenever people get to see at. Were you know in a movie theater or at home. I don't have a sense. Totally of how those things translate yet and yeah I don't either. I mean it's the sort of film that You know on. Its face. It Star Steven Jahn who obviously had great success actually not utterly dissimilar story burning in two thousand eighteen. There are some kind of thematic and visual references. That kind of match interesting double feature. I just don't know a lot of the Casas. Very Unknown Hania replays his his wife. Stephen's wife who you know. They're the sort of the lead couple in the family. And we'll patent plays a minim. Paul who is is a local aid a spiritual man who works with the family. He's giving what I would describe it as a very sundance. He performance he's anti character is sundance character. Maybe ripped from real life hard to say but this movie is like sort of very quiet and subtle and Paul is not not the most subtle. You're in the world. I don't think Paul will be competing for any awards but Stephen. I don't know he's really turned himself into quite a quite great leading actor. I will say I already mentioned the kid at this is an all time great kid performance and we were talking about after seeing the movie like. How do you get six year old to do what the six year old does? And I don't have the answers to that. I hope to discover them at some point. But we'll say really good kid. Performance goes a long way. It's true in people really love to see a cute kid up on the screen. Uh Ribbon hearts out yeah. He's like a charm vector and an empathy machine. You know that every time he's not screen you're looking at that. I really just feel for that so we didn't attend this party. Apparently he was here at Sundance. Walking the carpets at cowboy outfit. Yes big big park city energy from seven year old Allen Kim. We look forward to more things from him in the future. Go to the next kind of category. Yes okay so I. I've described this as the adult oriented comedy. Now I think that also sounds a little bit dirty like like not not not scatalogical your sexually dirty but just sort of like corny. I'm not sure that adult oriented in comedy is something that you want go together like I said as soon as we're applying larger categories to these things that invokes branding evokes marketing. It invokes all of the things. That aren't a work of art so so I think that's why we feel the way we feel but also this is how the world works and it's definitely help I've gasworks keep going so I would say some of the movies that fall into this. Category are among our favorite movies so four four weddings and a funeral plate sundance many years ago. John Have you seen for weddings and a funeral. I've seen thirty eight minutes of it. What is why do you do this to me is well? It's just the film that I started to watch movies. I watched the whole movie well. This isn't Chris Ryan. I watched the Irishman on three consecutive nights. Nonsense think of it like this life life is one big screening okay more in a continuous stream viewership and happy with you. One day I'll get to the conclusion of four weddings and a few I wasn't going to post host. The picture of you tweeting on the shuttle earlier but now I'm going to is a threat. I want people to note that for the record. Another example of this is significantly different from four weddings and a funeral. The movie like in Bruges which you know well before Martin mcdonagh was being canceled for three billboards outside ebbing Missouri. He was writing really nasty. hilarious assassin in comedies. I hope he gets back to this style very soon because I love that movie very much the next two though I think are more closely associated with a kind of tree. Cly Sundance Story. Now these movies are both huge hits and are kind of emblematic of something and I will admit when I saw them for the first time I was like I liked this movie a lot. The two thousand wild different time very different time the two movies. I'm talking about our five hundred days of summer. But you may recall is the so additional Joseph Gordon Levitt Rom COM com.
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"We we have some some good stuff coming up. That might be moving related. So I'm just putting that any radar not as good as the podcast. We have now Chris Ryan and I. We're doing it again. It was the first we watch ables ever and now it's the one hundred and I. I've got three dead bodies on a sidewalk of Venice Boulevard. Just Dean So. I'm sorry if the chicken got overcooked. The.
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"It's all turned around on you. It never ver- will suddenly you're old didn't happen and it never will because you were never going to do it anyway. You push it into memory in the zone out on your barcalounger being hypnotized by daytime t._v. For for the rest of your life like yeah yeah the that's the theme. I guess the underlying theme aim of this movie is fox needed a jolt to get his shit together to start the and it's idea that fox's like over planning everything and cruises this improv <unk> improviser advisor. Could this be remade as attentive so netflix show abso fucking. Lou tells you would sign up for this right now. All about felix accent investigation and i'm sure the witnesses all that stuff <hes> probably unanswerable questions did have your burdens character go to trial. All the witnesses are now dead jada pinkett or survived but the four witnesses are dead. Presumably league max is like here's what was happening right. It sounds like a mistrial than a neutra yeah. What was he going to trial for. You think being a drug distributor. So why are there witnesses. I think they're witnesses to like the process of how the drugs came into country and how they were distributed through l._a. So if one of the key witnesses is the guy in the fever nightclub why why is that guy at a nightclub but not in witness protection great question now a lot of wits security going against china. My fever net cup nowak could get shot in a place that people nothern answerable question. Is this movie better worse of fox and cruise switch roles. I think it's worse what i am not averse to. I would love to see like the version of it that had that it's it's also a movie that i would be totally open to being remade. I would be fine if they wanted wanted to do something with like gosling the hitman michael b jordan as the driver i guarantee gosling is watch just movie twenty times just furious that he didn't get another unanswerable question. Why named the guy vincent when vincent was in heat and also vincent was his character turn color of money and he wears a t shirt that says vincent what is michael man's fascination with vincent don't as a name vincent i or is he just like like the guy's name is vincent and they're like but he's just like his name is vincent. I don't wanna hear anything else anything else answerable now who on the movie i'm gonna go crews my favorite cruise performances but i think you can make the argument for man interesting so if we were doing this hockey style or they announced hot yeah third third star i started second star third star so fox's three three yeah fox's really good in this movie. Who do you think when i think cruise one because he also wins because this is kind of the end of the tom cruise era it more sinister lasting following weird this the last december the end of a run that starts with top gun which resisted in the rewatch was in nineteen eighty six and runs through two zero four. We're pretty unimpeded yeah. He has a little hiccup when he's fomin eyes wide shut for an extra two years then you probably expect it right but for the most part is just just one of the great twenty two year runs anywhere or eighteen year runs anyone's amazing that eighteen year runs up there and then it flips <hes> and now he's back in the original all right so we'd everything yeah chris ryan producer craig we at last the mohicans is the next man movie we do. Oh is that we're doing heat again. Oh yes right. We're doing heat again again miami vice again. We have some good stuff coming up this month actually so <hes> see soon <music> yeah..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Make it through the night from director michael. He's only with as as the kid tom cruise jamie fox or together lateral read. It are all right. Chris ryan is here. August six. Two thousand four collateral came out fiftieth anniversary is this week it was a big deal at the time michael man <hes> <hes> twenty year anniversary.
'Toy Story 4' is a Masterpiece. Is It in Pixar's Top 5?
"You. I'm Shawn fantasy editor in chief of the ringer. And this is the big Pixar podcast. They conversation show about Toy Story, four and all sorts of childish things. I'm joined today by apparent at the ringer rob heart villa. Hello rub. Hello. How's it going? It's going very well. And I appreciate you being here. You know, some of my frequent co host on the show among them, amended Dobbins, and Chris Ryan are, just straight up assholes about animated movies, and I noticed that I need to have people on to talk about important animated films. And I think even before you were a parent, you would have been a thoughtful and sophisticated guest for this episode, but you are a father and so you are happenings moves to Pixar in, in deep way in recent years. Is that fair to say that's very fair to say very complicated relationship with these movies at this point? But yes, yes, so we'll talk about that a bit on this show. I think we'll start the show though by talking about the new Pixar movie, which is, of course, Toy Story four, I think, when Pixar I started about twenty or so years ago, I never would have guessed that. That there would have been a fourth installment of any of these movies, in fact when they started. They seemed like a new version of a kind of storytelling that didn't necessitate sequels if you look on the ring dot com right now you can read a really interesting column by miles Surrey about the state of Pixar and their decision to make a series of sequels over the last ten years, and what that means for their, their brand, and what it means for their business and what it means for their creativity. And in some ways, I think it's been really threatened over the last few years, you know, we were just talking before we started recording about the infamous cars, three, which I would say is not one of the more legendary. In the Pixar verse. But Toy Story four, I thought was quite wonderful. And I thought it hearkens back to what makes a lot of these films. Great and also push them forward a little bit, rob. How did you receive toys story for what did you make in the movie, I saw last night with my sons who are eight and five and sort of Iraq is sort of preview screening. And I my kids laughed more laughed, louder just more obnoxiously than at any movie. I think that I've ever taken them to know. So I by by that measure, I mean it was a huge success. And I thought it was wonderful, and I thought it push things forward, but also sort of hold back on that sort of classic Pixar idea that like the kids are delighted, and the parents are total emotional wrecks. You know what I'm saying? Like I it's sort of an impressive mass magic trick that these movies can do. And I think especially of inside out, you know, which was, my, I think I've written about this on the side a couple times now. But like my son walk. Out of inside out. He was five at the time and he thought anger was funny, and I was just crying mess, you know, because I just watched I just watch goofball island, which is like the visual manifestation of like a joyful kid becoming a sullen teenager, like depicted, on, like a giant theater screen, and it was just the most crushing experience like the way those movies these movies are designed to work on those two levels, and they sort of drive, the parents to the toy store, but also to therapy, like, I, I feel like this one was sort of uncomplicated, Katie just funny and delightful and I had it seriousness and had like themes that parents, especially it would pick up on. But like it wasn't working that dichotomy where it was sort of, like designed to upset me personally, you know what I'm saying? Like I feel like they can play with that a little bit. But they don't have to hammer at it all the time in every movie that they put out, you know, I could just enjoy my kids, enjoying this one, a lot more than I feel like the last. Several Pixar movies. Yeah. I agree with that. I do think though, there is this entire school of almost academic sought around Pixar movies. And if you want to, if you want to experience Toy Story four as an exegesis on creationism and identity and a cartesian analysis of society, you probably could do that. I absolutely. Yeah. And I think that is that, that whole divide is fascinating to me the way that you've underlying basically the pure kid enjoyment of something, and the way that adults are entertained, and even moved by some of their films. I feel like can you give me a little bit of a sense of as a parent? What it's like to see a lot of movies like this, not just Pixar movies, but animated movies or what's on TV or what streaming for your kids and what the balance is between this is secretly for parents. And this is actually just dumb entertainment for kids, so that they don't like break things in the kitchen. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I've seen every type of movie along that spectrum, you know, and I haven't hated any. Movie that I think I've taken my kids to even like down to, like rock dog or whatever, you know, like I it's the LEGO movies are trying to be adult and trying to be knowing and it feels like they are specifically pitched for the adults in a way that, like a lot of the jokes are going right over the kids heads, like I don't dislike those movies, but I think that the LEGO movies are a little too cute about that. You know, I've seen plenty of things like, you know, the emoji movie or the trolls movie or whatever. Which are, you know, have theoretically adult jokes, but aren't trying to work that duality certainly the way that Pixar movies. Are you think about four key who like the new protagonist are like the new cool character here in Toy Story, four four key spends the movie like having an identity crisis like ease? He's a new toy but he thinks he's trash. And like he wants to be trash like he's literally, a spark with pipe cleaner arms, and he spends the whole first thirty minutes of the movie is going trash trash. And like I think that's really profound. And my son just really loves the way that four key keep saying, trash trash, like he did it. My son did it all the way home whole drive home like. And it's that's a cool. Little thing, that's you know, the different levels, and you can appreciate it on without it having to be this comedy versus tragedy divide. You know, it's sort of typifies, you know, again, like inside out, or even like the last toys story movie, Toy Story, three ends, of course, with, like, the scene, where they're all heading down into the incinerator, and they all sort of somberly, join hands and they're sort of resigned to the fact that they're all gonna die like all these little toys, and it's you know, I'm sort of a crying rack, and like my sons are sort of mildly disturbed, but they figure everything is going to be okay. And it is, but, like there's a moment of like pure pesos on that level in this movie, and I was, frankly, kind of relieves like the idea that I have to walk into every Pixar movie like braced dad, this huge sort of existential breakdown, you know, as my kids, just enjoy themselves like at felt like we pulled back on that. A little bit. And I was grateful for that. I agree with you. It's it did feel bit like an episodic adventure, which wasn't a bad Yang. I think sometimes you can get a movie like that, where the stakes have been lowered from the previous film, and you're like, well nigh. You're just wasting my time. But inevitably when it's a movie about anthropomorphized toys, somehow, it's nice to just have something that is a little bit more fun. I mean you mentioned Toy Story three which, you know, sort of ends with that transition from Andy to Bonnie, and then inevitably Bonnie becomes the, the young child, who is the owner of all these toys. And so were reintroduced to a world that features some of Bonnie's toys, and then the toys from the classical Toy Story story, and then four he comes along on the first day school. I, I did feel in that sort of first day of school moment that I was getting some of those inside out vibes that you're talking about where it's sort of, like they have managed to metastasized the most vulnerable feeling that you can have in your life. That that's scary trust. They of school where like I don't know anybody and everybody hates me. And I'm afraid and I miss everything. Is comfortable around me and they zero in on it, and they show it to you through the eyes of a little kid. And you immediately feel a recognition. That is a storytelling power. That is often overstated about Pixar allow me to overstate at wants more like it's amazing how they manage to locate and isolate those feelings and show them to you on screen, and make you relate to them like I am consistently blown away by that. There's another one at the end, when there's the kid lost at the fair, you know, she's just sort of there's a little girl, and she's crammed between, you know, to food carts or whatever, and she's crying and like, yeah, it's the exact same feeling and I yeah, there's a conversation also I think it's between Woody and four key. And like I think what he says, like, you know, these kids like you watch them grow up and become a person. And then they leave, you know, they'll do things you'll never see like the whole point of these movies is that the toys realized that one day, they'll be abandoned. You know, one day, they'll fall out a favor and one day, the kids will run off without them and won't need them anymore. That's, that's not even subtexts. Like that's just that's exa-. Exactly how parents feel watching these movies, you know, I think that's always there. And it is really striking. You know, I mean, this is possibly the best movie I've ever seen with the numeral four in it. You know what I'm saying? As you as you said, like I understand sort of the dismay, or at least a concern that Pixar has become by and large, like a sequel factory, you know, but I I I didn't dislike incredible to at all. But like I felt like certainly this was a better sequel than any of the other sequels that we've had this year. Obviously, you've been talking about how terrible and how sort of lifeless, they are like this is just a one eighty from that. Yeah. They staved it off. It's, it's a pretty impressive single-handed job in a in a friend summer from hell for this movie to come along and, and gay ever. So briefly, I think I think pause things one thing, that's notable too, is, you know, we're talking about the human emotion that they're able to imbue into these films and into these characters in the movies directed by Josh Cooley, who is. Essentially a first time Pixar director, though. He's worked for the company for a while and the screenplay has two people credited, but the story has two four six eight people credited and it's a complicated list of people. I'm going to read it to you really quickly story by John Lasseter Rashida Jones will McCormack Josh Cooley. Valerie LaPointe, Martin Hines, Stephanie, fulsome, and Andrew Stanton. Now, the last two people are the official authors of the screenplay famously when this movie came together, Rashida Jones and will McCormack her writing partner were brought on board to write it, and they eventually left the project because they felt like they were not as open minded about new voices, particularly a woman of color talking about the way to tell these stories for Pixar Pixar, very famously has had some fraught history with, with John Lasseter, one of its co founders chief imagine ear for a number of years due to sexual misconduct allegations. And the company has I, I would say affectively weathered the. Storm, whatever that can mean an has moved on from Lassiter, who I believe is most recently appointed to a position on inside of sky dance, and they're animated division of paramount, but it's so strange to have an event like that happening
The WTF Movies of 2019 So Far
"I'm Shawn fantasy an animated, and this is the big picture a conversation show about movies, I guess because movies are still happening in the shadow of game of thrones were having kind of a weird conversation this week, Amanda, and I are going to be talking about what I thought was going to be the best movies of the year so far, but as we went down the list, and we thought about what we've seen thus far. And what we wanted to see we realized that this has been kind of an odd year for movies. So we asked you guys on Twitter. What you wanted to hear talk about you gave us a lot of responses. Some of those films are brilliant. We've talked about some of them on previous episodes ashes purest white, for example, or or transit or us. We spent a lotta time on us shot. We spend a lot of time a long shot Apollo eleven. These are all fascinating brilliant, beautifully crafted movies. We'll talk a little bit about them here. And there as we're going through this. But Amanda, I think it's probably better if we talk about movies that confounded us confused us excited us and ultimately left us. Just wanting to talk. Yes. So here we are to talk. I'm gonna I was ultimately inspired by seeing dragged across concrete. Have you seen that movie? I have not because I think everyone in my life has encouraged me not to I don't think you need to see it. It's Dorothy by minimum as Craig Zoeller. It was there was some notoriety around it because Ahlers movies have a particular political bent, kind of free speech, a finding that some have perceived as very conservative. It's a movie that stars Mel Gibson in Vince Vaughn as to police officers who have been suspended and then spend their free time trying to stop a Bank robbery. Boy, it's larded with a lot of intellectual and political complications. It's not really worth unpacking here. You know, there's been some really good writing about it on the ring dot com. I would encourage you check that out Chris Ryan and Adam name and had a conversation about it on the watch a couple of months ago. And I think that was part of the reason that they spend an hour talking about it. And at the end, we're like we cannot endorse this, but also here all our thoughts about it. Yes. I walked away feeling the same way though. Less interested like less excited by what it did. But it does feel like an onramp into this conversation because there's a lot of cool stuff in it. It's very well made Zoeller is obviously an artistic person I do not agree with many of his ideas about humanity. And it left me feeling like I had both wasted my time and saw something unique. And I think that that's definitely a theme perhaps a segue to the movie serenity. Wow. Yes. So this was maybe this was among the most requested in the call for submission. I think it was the number one request. Why do you think that that was to be set up serenity in any way? Oh, gosh. I guess we how do we train serenity? Let stars Matthew mcconaughey and Anne Hathaway to bona fide movie stars which is of note and it begins as a kinda Morrish or Neo Noir ish situation on an island, and Matthew mcconaughey has a white whale of his own called tuna. And he also has. Some demons and an ex wife who needs some help. Then that's in Hatheway, that's pretty much it. He's a fisherman. He is he's got an habit pursuit of Justice the tuna that you're ferring to and he's got a first mate enjoyment, Han Soo and Hathaway plays that ex wife and he's got a kid. We keep hearing about that we see and his ex wife's got a husband played by Jason Clark. And this movie is hysterical. And I don't mean, it's funny. I mean, it is literally operating in hysterics the whole movie is the most pitched up over the top preposterously plotted movie of seen in a long time when it came out mile Surrey wrote on the ringer about all of it's absurd. What the fuck nece, and I didn't read that piece at the time because I didn't want to spoil for me. And it took me a couple of months to get around to this. And usually when someone says, you gotta see this movie. It is effing insane. I go quickly before whatever reason I didn't get to it. I don't think you to either. No, no. I watched it at home. Which we'll come back to. So Stephen Knight Ronin directed this movie. Stephen night is best known. I think for creating peaky blinders which is a show on Netflix. And he's written a handful of movies here and there, and he's thought to be a very well respected writer director in Hollywood. I I'm I'm just baffled by this movie. I don't understand what he was going for. I mean, let's just say that we're we have to spoil the talk about this movie. So if you haven't seen serenity, and you wanna see serenity, I guess I can sort of recommend it as an ultimate Curio in American movie going, but it's pretty bad rate. It's not I all of the hubbub. I thought this was a good what the fuck movie, and it does not really deliver. It's more just kind of like how did this happen? And how did this many people make it this far, and sink that this all came together? So now, we're going to we're going to spoil the reveal spoil away. It's video game. It's a video video game. And they carry the son who is referenced throughout the movie, and then like all shown like eighteen times throughout the movie is programming. This whole world. And everyone else is fiction of his imagination. And he's doing it to like connect with his fictional dad or something or for a father figure and to avenge his real life stepdad, which we should talk about the problematic aspects of that. But anyway to your point of what this was trying to do. I thought it was like matrix gone. Extremely wrong. Right. I thought that it was trying to engage with the idea of. You know, the video games, and the captured that they have on culture right now and imagination and that idea of the simulation, and what's real. And what's not and revenge and the game if occasion of life, I think that that is my most generous reading of what is going on here. I do not think it delivers on any of it. And I do find that kind of video game to real life violence aspect a little troubling. So I will say as a twelve year old computer geniuses evocation of what adult conflict is a what an adult's life is like an adult who lives on an island called Plymouth island, which is somehow tropical. I'm not sure if there is a tropical island called island. It actually seemed on point because when you're thirteen you don't really understand what it's like to be an human adult, and what it's like to have problems in demons. You know, there's a lot of complicated ideas in the movie math mcconaghy's. Character is a war veteran and Hathaway's. Character is a survivor of domestic abuse. Yes. There are some some really weighty females here. And by the same token, the like, I said the movies just kind of hysterical. The kid the actors are going so over the top in every scene and Hathaway, I think is more or less playing Barbara Stanwick kind of like forties. Fifties era kinda bombshell Dame who's trying to draw a somewhat innocent man into an awful plot. Sort of like the postman always rings twice, you know, meth mcconaghy's kind of the John Garfield going. But they're so pitched up and it's also happening on a boat, which is kind of a ridiculous setting. That's that. I I was just just really confused by how actively bad it was. And I know that seems like a simple criticism. But even if it was a commentary on the way that thirteen year old sees adults. I still thought it would something was missing. Does that does that make sense? Yeah. I will also say I I watched it at home as did you and it really suffered from that. And I would like to talk more about the context in which we receive all of these movies because I think it is increasingly important, but for this one you you really had to pay attention because it it was making logical jumps and giving pieces of so-called information that you were you saw the you're solving mystery. Yes. And I I suppose in a way you were more kind of on a on a video game quest, which as I I'm told requires a lot of focus, which is not what I give to movies. So I would I would. Honestly, look away for ten seconds. And then five new characters would be screaming about something that was like oh shit while I messed up miss something. And I had to rewind. And then it's not like the ten seconds that I missed provided any information or insight. It was just kind of jumping around. So I I actually experienced the real gaps between the ideas it like literally because I thought that I kept missing something. And then it just was never really there. It's funny. United spend a lot of time on this show talking about the movies. They don't make any more. They don't make built dramas. They don't make thrillers. They don't make rom coms. They don't, you know, all of these categories were always talking about lamenting, oh Hollywood is lost its way. And it's all big ten actions that piece movies. This is the kind of movie that we're saying they don't make any more movie stars leaning into a big showy part. It's high concept. It's not based on any IP. And yet
Avengers: Endgame Has Overwhelmed Hollywood. Is That OK?
"Sean fantasy editor in chief of the ringer. And this is the big picture a conversation show about the end of moviegoing culture, as we know. It just kidding vendors. Endgame ruled and is better than game of thrones. I'm here with Chris Ryan and Amanda Davin. Getting the Friskies we're going to talk a little bit about avengers and not game. Thrones. If you wanna listen to stuff about game of thrones. I encourage you to listen to Chris on the watch. Maybe you can catch up on the thrones. Which aired last night. Maybe you can check out Benjamin later this week in here all about the battle of winter fell in whether it worked or did not work. There are some dissension in the ranks here at the ringer today. We're talking MC you not just the movie itself. But also the box office implications, and what the aftermath of that means for summer movies. We're doing a little summer movie preview man, and I'll be chatting about it. But I I thought that you guys are the perfect pair to chat with after doing a deep dive with Mallory Ruben because Amanda, you're on the record is not being the biggest superhero movie fan in the world. But also someone who sees these films out of obligation and has developed a lot of feelings about them. And Chris, I tend to think you're the most you're the person who I'm most eager to hear what he thought about these moves every time you see. I'm right here. It's not that respect your opinion. Amanda, I think it's very valuable, but you're operating from a base level of not. So sure about this, Chris I. I think he if he can really go positive or negative. Sure. So I'm time. I'm wondering what you guys thought. Like, I'm a newborn baby every time I enter a movie. Yes. But sort like Benjamin button this baby. Did you cry? Speaking of a game. I did not cry. Okay mandate. Did you right now? I didn't staunching. So I cried because I feel right? And so. Chris what'd you think? I had like a feelings wave when Peter Parker and Tony stark reunited at the end of the movie, I just felt like entirely a piece, which I think is ultimately what they wanted you to feel which is that I was entirely a piece with the endeavor, I felt fine. And okay about the amount of time. I've spent thinking about this these movies and seeing these movies over the years, I think is really telling listen to you and Mallory talk about it because being a little bit older. I think that I don't quite have like deep passionate connection to it. It's not like a real maker break franchise for me in the way, some some others are, but at the end of the day, I felt like you guys pulled it off. You get you made it emotionally satisfying finales to what was pretty unprecedented endeavor in movie making history, and they made it work Mana. Yeah. I thought it was a fitting conclusion to this experiment for better. And for worse in some ways. It it certainly there was a little bit of everything for everyone, including. Me. I mean, the last show I was delighted I wouldn't say I was like crying or deeply moved. But it's very excited to see Hayley Atwell back into seek cap. I frankly old cap be very happy. And also, I thought pretty handsome for like a really old guy. It'll head ahead. And then yeah, that's true. They didn't age the hair. And I thought that nice. I thought the last shot was very sweet and was kind of going back to many of the themes that we talked about in our podcast about captain America the first venture. And some of the things that I felt the MC you had abandoned. And so I felt seen in that moment, which is not something that I often feel in these movies, it took three hours and a lot of garbage CGI to get there. So, you know, and, but I think other people delighted that we're delighted by that. And so again, there is something for almost everyone in these movies. And that's kind of what the experiment was about. Right. Yeah. Definitely. And you know, in the Morville months years that we did on the show in a you. And I talked about captain America. The first of. Injure. Chris unite talked about the avengers both of the things the key talking points that we talked about in those podcasts really rose to the surface on this one. You know in your in your case, it was how halio wells the most important person in the MC. You Chris for you. It was quite literally that Tony stark is the most important person, the AFC, this was a genuine sendoff. Yeah. I don't I don't think we'll be seeing Tony again. And it was interesting the way that they built him into the not just the centerpiece of the story, not just the emotional center of the story. But like the engine of the story, and I think when we talked a few weeks ago, you were saying that you're not so sure that they're going to be able to do this as actively without him. I think they're staring to an abyss. And I think they might dive in and the this is called Disney. Plus, you know, I think that the the way that we're going to be talking about these movies in ten years United texting over the weekend. And I was like, oh, should I read this comic line to kinda see where it's going or read the story line? And you basically were like here's what's going to happen in in ten years. We'll be talking about this so called to be friends with Sean. No, I think he sent the text and there are some. These are anti spoilers over here. Also. But he's like, I he sends tech. Sometimes I'm just saying we're gonna join but this. This one was like, wow. That sounds incredibly plausible. And it would take about ten years to get. You know what I mean? And but for me, you lose stark, you probably you're gonna lose Evans unless they graduate Evans too kindly, uncle who shows up somehow in some of the other movies. And I think they're going to take the characters that were remaining with the exception of Black Panther, captain marvel in the guardians. A lot of them are going to move to streaming a lot like Sebastian STAN, anti Mackie. They're going to streaming LOKI streaming Wanda envision explicable or going to streaming. So like a lot of these characters are now going to be on these little five episode little mini runs. And I think that they have a charm problem. Now, I think that there is going to be a little bit of a like we need to work to like build up some of these people again, and that will probably come with the characters that you were talking about. But it's gonna take them a few years to develop those projects, you're there's two ways to do that. I think it's evident to me. And I guess we'll see when Spiderman far from home comes out. But they do have a centerpiece in Tom, Holland that was the loudest cheer. I heard both times. I saw the movie that was the person that people were most emotionally connected to and that is the legacy of Downie Downey made that character very meaningful to a lot of people. You know, they they created that father son dynamic, so I could see that effectively being the new iron man of the series. The other stuff is is a little bit up in the air. You know, it's like I feel like the one thing we can kind of all agree on is that they really just handled Chris Hemsworth beautifully over the last five years. They've just figured out how to make him a trueblue movie star. Amanda, we'll talk a little bit about her enthusiasm for men in black international. Maybe later on this podcast but
Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald unpack the season finale of Succession
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"chris ryan" Discussed on Duncan Trussell Family Hour
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"chris ryan" Discussed on Duncan Trussell Family Hour
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"chris ryan" Discussed on Duncan Trussell Family Hour
"Lien i'm begging you stop playing that fucking thing one of the answers i i've come up with his all just won't be monogamous anymore i'm not going to create some kind of ruled structure that is gonna make me feel like to play relationship cop and monitor the person i am with an wonder if they're cheating amir or not this stuff is really been on my mind lately and so i call that my friend chris ryan and he was kind enough to drive down from two panga and be my therapist for an hour i hope you get some out of this episode of his somebody use struggles with jealousy or monogamy or cheats on people air has been cheated on i think you're going to really like this conversation we're gonna jump right into it but first some quick business this episode of the dtf h is brought to you by hello fresh dot com for thirty dollars off your first week of hellofresh go to hellofresh dot com and enter in dunkin' thirty years who have not gotten stone and and watched a cooking show throw the first bachelor because i know that i have gotten stoned and watch cooking shows and as i've watched i've thought to myself you know what if i had all the ingredients measured out for me yeah i could probably be a master chef to end this my sweet darlings is wear hello fresh comes to the rescue hellofresh is the meal kit delivery service that makes cooking more fun so you can focus on the whole experience notches the final plate each week hellofresh creates new delicious recipes with step by step instructions designed to take around thirty minutes for everyone from novices to seasoned home cooks short on time hellofresh sources the freshest ingredients measured to the exact quantities needed so there is no food waste and hellofresh employs two fulltime registered dieticians on staff who review each recipe.