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"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
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"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"All right. What's age worse. Asa had this would stage the best ben affleck's hair. It's just so terrible. It's it's really thinking we're thinking wig there. Eight yeah yeah. I don't think a normal human being grown like that another wage worse. When i saw this movie in the theater i thought it was see thomas how instead of scoot mcnairy for the first like twenty minutes wasn't positive i was thinking. Did they see thomas. Sowell of which irish vindamme looks so much with their All right there's a there's some what age where stuff with the there's some pretty not-so-veiled racism with the with the iranians where it's just like every every iranian character in this movie is just completely angry and screaming and dick view of this. Yeah yeah we only really have the housekeepers. The only one who seems like they have any sort of conscience. There was also in very early. Whitewashing controversy with With affleck because mendez. I think was half mexican right and people are upset that affect grabbed the part but Social media wasn't in the in the way it is now our like this. My blessing again. He was like pretty cool. Like ben affleck. Please me.
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Going to really go for it. These forty five seconds. Beer guy calls arkan and goodman then we get that attention and then the The finally finally take off. We get one of my favorite things. Chris ryan the celebration celebration course. Our pleasure to announce that alcoholic beverages are now appealing lesbian clear The martian also has a great one. Yeah the celebration. Montages are some of my favorites but they do a nice job that we get to go to like six. Different places was people celebrating. I watching this last night. We've talked to a couple of times on watchable about celebration montages. Does this celebration. Montage have the entire spectrum of possible celebrations from. Oh interesting cranston dry crying. Who giving the. I misjudged you handshake. Yeah straight up like sports. Celebrations from messina prematurely celebrates and then gets decelerate again like every single person doing like a little dance. Yeah and then the married couple kind of like just complete relief though celebration. Hit off of it What's the most watchable for you. I'm i'm going to still go with the presentation of all the different escapes like i. I really like a bunch of the stuff that's in rambo-like like when affleck is just like when christmas is just like that that that's a black kid. That's an african kid where they show him the poster like it's just an amazing like assortment of actors. It's really well written. I love that scene. I like from the moment there in the airport to the celebration montage and that was how i ended up starting to watch this movie over and over again because they kept catching ads like. Oh they're going to the airport. All right yeah okay. what sage. The best goodman arkan yes. Start the category south to fight just great. Sometimes the casting is just a fifteen ten you. They wouldn't filmmakers are like yeah you know like once. We cast the roles everything else was. It was like five percent more to do. That's it like once you get the right people to be in the movie. It's not that much. There's not that much more to do and you wonder about how many movies you see where you're like off. They just kept it a little bit better because this is so perfectly cast but those guys and they could have gotten any number of kind of older warmly received beloved characters but they get arkin goodman and they're so fucking good. Well what's interesting is they. Don't they don't really use any star power on the canadian six right. They almost went for and they show at the end in the closing credits. They went for people that really kind of looked like the six people. Yeah and none of those actors were famous in any real way. So they used the star power an african american and on and on you know goodman and then all the government people but great casting goodman you know he's had a really strange. Tv movie career. He's been in a lot of stinkers. He's been in a lot of really good movies like it's he has one of the strangest. Imdb's i think you'll ever look at where he's like babe ruth in work a lot. Yes likes to work a lot of those guys that make two movies a year. they're going to hit some. this is too. He's making like four. Yeah he's in flight this year. He's like yeah like he does a bunch of movies a year and he's still on the frigging roseanne's bit off. He's at his best when he's in the drama where he can provide a little comedic. Respite.
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"That's why i mentioned the ethics stuff at the top. Like he became famous again girl and then batman happens and his you know he's buried. He's got kids but he is completed. This incredible hollywood comeback. And at some time at some point. You kinda lose your way a little bit. And i think he lost his way a little bit with this filmmakers side. Because i know as i talked about i've obviously have interacted with them at times but in that. Oh eight to two thousand twelve range. It was like somebody going back to ground zero rocky rocky. Three of like. I've got to go back to what got me in this business. I love movies. I want to start making them. I wanna start telling stories. And then he just became too famous again. And i think we've seen that happen with some people. I it didn't stop warren beatty. He's still directed movies and kept making them I really hope he makes another one. I would love to see another movie. I mean he was originally going to direct the batman movie that he was going to star collapse. Well he he's in. He's in batman versus superman. Which we don't have to talk about. But then he was going to make his own batman movie which i think was probably the carrot dangled in front of him also like he might just be a guy look. Damon does the same thing. We're demons made four born movies and affleck was was off making these batman movies and maybe he convinced himself he was gonna get to execute his creative vision as like the director of batman. But i it's a shame because like i do think that warren beatty is a perfect comparison. Where he just has a popular sensibility. But like a real filmmakers. I and the cool thing about the town and argo is his performances. In those movies are much different than the person he was in armageddon and boiler room and shit like that like he is completely turn down and turned off that part of his movie star part and has gotten into just being like..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Chris. This is what i do. I get people out. Argos next embassy has been seized six hostages. Got out and let me make a fake movie. You need a script. Producer is my into tehran. We all fly out together as a film crew. You have seventy two hours to get them out. This is what i do. And i've never left anyone beyond overtime. Herbert argo radar stocks. October twelve chris ryan here. Is bill. simmons. This is a movie argo that we covered pretty extensively grantland in two.
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"This is this is my buddy gusts has just joined us. You gotta unmet yourself gusts early. That's chris ryan. Hey guys you don't even know what we're doing. I gave you know prepping. You have no idea why here we're doing watchable is right now. We're at the talent. Please watch must play. You know how much is given to us. needed you tie-breaking vote biggest nitpick in the movie here the nominees. Actually already this movie. So well i have to let you know prep to doing your biggest nitpick of the movie euro choose the goalie. Let's arm. I'm sorry torn hamstring. Should it be someone accidentally dug me. I'll take a fall. Like why do they have to break our. And why does he knew it. We got it. I have been talking about this literally since i met. Gus which i think was nine hundred. Eighty two almost the fortieth anniversary of that. We just never understood. It never explained. We don't know what he gained from it and the only benefit was that they made it a good break soclean break but then but then they stay so for the entire second-half he's going to be like wayne. Why did we break run out the door. You wrote my for nothing. I think he died. He died of alcoholism about two years. Later oh my guys just so bitter. Yeah stay stay for the ending here. Because i want away. And you said the event movie event you would go to the roy hops. Homer fixed fictional sporting event that you would want to be at over rocky beating drago in russia. I would've been scared to be with the russians i would. My safety would have been compromised authen. The ray hobbes's just inorganic. Great fun moment. That was my case for that voice to work. You can't even see him. Barely rounding the bases i write. Hobbs limps out. He's he's looked like dog shit the whole movie..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"I thought i'd find more to yeah. Roger moore considering being john. Colby thought was an interesting one. Yeah i liked came. Better though. On general michael i go michael. Cain over roger moore. Who is john coby now for. This move is being made right now. Who would you what. It's gotta be like. Basically have to be able to play soccer. It has to be like a more working. Man's colin firth Apparently lloyd bridges and clint eastwood were circling this. So let's talk about the clint part. What would you say to to clint eastwood as as hatch. It's it's just a completely different movie. He's way cooler. He looks more like a goalkeeper. There's no comic relief at all. I don't think he would have been cool with breaking the The damaris goalie's arm which the hate crime against the irish that that was convinced. The irish guy. It's like the air show is have to take a beat here. I'm twenty five percent. Irish editors i think quit would have probably said make him. He'll stay as the trainer but he's backup goalie and that's how they keep them on. And then you have. The irish goalie actually break. The arm during the game is such a better way to having an easy match until yeah great save and then bound kicks his arm and breaks it. Yeah classic yeah. Fuck a bamut. What a dick best. That guy okay. The joey word. I don't even know what these guys names are. But the two guys who help plan the escape They're sitting in. The crowd are due to dudes. The one guy who's got the glasses. Who just does this over ten minutes. He puts his candidates face. I don't even know what those guys names are. But anytime ever seen them in anything else. That's victory so the only other guy that i had for this maurice rove's who's the scottish officer who's like you know the the four or five officers in the prison camp and guy would go on to get his beating heart cut out by maga last the mohicans. That's the winter. That's great the visit handed. Give me all you got award for best overacting or most overacting sly stallone. Yeah it's it's not a great slime movie the the entire sequence where he's chasing michael caine around the camp to be like i don't even wanna play understood good team. That team told me. I don't need to tape anymore. You got it. I don't need you talk. This is a paradise alley to your chad. Houston's director it's just not great. It's not a great look for him. The judd nelson award for the person who seems like they're different movie advocacy has to go to the french girlfriend..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Blue moon brin company golden colorado ale What's age the best. The music bill conti the goat. The music's i think this might be number one for me. I sports movie music over rocky. Yeah i think so. I think it is 'cause it's got a couple of different ones. Got the palay. Just got hurt. The kinda dire It's got the the allies are making a run. Did it edited. It's got a celebration music. It's just it's like. I like the evil music where it's like turner rick great stuff. I think number one Speaking of music right for the penalty kick when they saying. I think it's the french anthem. Right what are they saying. What does the crowd sing. I always actually confused about that. Let me see if if i can figure that out. I don't know if it's a pretty sure. It's the french national anthem. And they sing the whole song. And it's fucking awesome and they got the whole arena of extras to do it. And it's like just goosebumps. It's really good. I love that part. The the singing in the soccer stadium. Stuff is incredible. Yeah i can just in general like you get when you when you get a chance to if you ever get a chance to go to a game over there. It's just amazing. I've watched this movie so many times. But i don't understand the language but i still sing along with it and i just love it The crooked referee. Yeah just knew you knew. He was in the bag. I'd like movies with crooked referees..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Is here to episode one. Ninety nine of the rewatch ables. Victory really called escape escape to victory like escape to victory better. I don't know why they change it to victor at the trademark thing but This is one of the great sports movies in my life. It is a movie that turned forty years old last week. Which is why we're doing it. i think it has the best extended sports movies sequence of all time. It's like twenty five minutes long. I will defend to the death. The rest of the movie is is is a little long. But there's a lot of holes. But i'm gonna start here chris ryan. I think you could argue. This was the greatest sports movie premise of all time. I would argue that. This might be the greatest premise of any movie of all time. Greatest movie premise of autumn. Okay bill i two things. I'm really passionate about the game. Soccer and escaping from world war two. Pow and genius was like. Let's put these things together. It's such a salable premise. I cannot believe unit thought like all the movies that we loved over the years and they remake some of them and it always hurts my feelings. Like adam sandler god bless them but when he redid the longest yard i was so upset. The to me. That movies sacred. I still think it's really good and it's like how dare you. Victory is a movie that you would have thought somebody would remain by now and maybe even with the different sport basketball we find a different war. We can figure something out like. There's so many different permutations. It's so good that when you're watching this and you're just like wow had it. They had did they. Just all look at around at each other and go. Wow this is so brilliant. Let's shake hands the premise. You haven't seen the movie and if you haven't i don't know what to tell you You really miss it out. You should watch it. But i also know why you would be listening if you haven't listened to. We'll go through anyway. The premise is. They're in a they're in a pow camp. The nazis are evil. And somebody on the nazi side decides. What if a soccer games diaper just like. You know what. I'm kind of bored. It's forty three to forty four. Let's just let's just kind of like let's mix it up a little. Yeah let's have a real game. We'll have a crowd then it kind of it snowballs a little now all of a sudden. It's at a bigger stadium paris. now it's like. Oh well. I knew michael. Cain who's the player-manager will get to some of the issues with him later Is i know. I'd really need players. Got to be some good ones. And it turns in this all star team and There's three things going on here. Big picture one is stallone. This is catching stallone. Read as he's about to go on his incredible run because he's got rocky three the following year and then we're off that that first blood same following year. Same thing nineteen eighty two We got rocky four. We have first rambo Cobra it's just all happened just along all culminating tango and cash yet. This is not all happening at first alone. You could argue for. I'll just spoiler alert. He did not win this movie. He there's a lot of questions of whether this movie is better without him. But but so we have this stallone piece. We have the gist great premise. Old school wide screen. John huston directing just all that all that stuff and then we had the soccer. And you love this stuff. You're a historian curator. Some good soccer players of this movie like incredible. There's no giorgio chinaglia.
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Fantasy football is back. And you don't want your team to suck my favorite fantasy. Football punishment i've ever heard is the last place guy had to spend twenty four hours a waffle house. every waffle. he eight was one hour off of his count. I want numbers. How many deanna. Meeting twelve waffles. Twelve hours on daddy. Hi. i'm danny. Kelly and i'm craig hornbeck. We.
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Football had the ninety nine rams which redefined how do football So we have that tv soprano starts at your is is going on. Hbo hard and it feels like tv's moving into a different direction. Music doesn't know where the fuck it is Music time eight this renaissance music's the one that just was a mass murderer i mean at the music was so bad. I have playlist from every year in the ninety nine. Play list of my favorites is did not play as the least amount of songs by far. I think that this movie captures as a capstone of this pot. Is that the way in which society works in the way in which were conditioned to kind of participate in the business of culture and the business of life sometimes makes it hard to recognize in the moment. When things are really changing are things feel are really momentous like we were just talking about lake. You can kind of like wile away your days making these like stupid purchases instead of actually recognizing what's going on and i think that this movie kinda tapped into that chris ryan was great to see you. This was podcast. One ninety seven on the re watchable speed this one hundred ninety seventh movie. We've done we've three left until two hundred. It seems like there's going to be a three heat. Yeah and we have to decide. Who's doing it with us. So that's mid august. Yeah but we'll tape for then. Yeah the three heat is on pace for. I think august sixteenth. Okay so we have to decide do we. Do we actually make a real run. Getting michael man. Do we bring fantasy n. Dewey fantasies just a is on the l for a little bit here but he might make a comeback like. What do we do what we do for three. Can't just be as we've done. He twice just the two of us got it. We have to have someone else to show us like a different side of heat. Who's gonna be. I know i don't check by. Twitter applies but. Chris sometimes does so. If you have suggestions for who who you'd want in the three heat start hating us now and then we have some Some some great ones coming still. This was a good one to do. It was great to see. 'cause ryan don't forget Woodstock ninety nine premiering on. Hbo on july twenty third the producers of this podcast where craig quarterback and cow creighton. This time around. We see next week relax..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Chris ryan has been cranking out the watch going on eighteen years. Now chris congratulate yeah still cranking at shawn's cranking out the big picture. I'm cranking out the bill. Simmons podcast the basketball two point. Oh podcast premiered the. What if the bias story so you can find it on their really good one coming up. I'm not going to quit my job. I'm just gonna do it better. Inspiring city slickers dax.
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"Think that. Leonard leonard is sammy jenkins okay and which ties into did. Did his wife kill herself or did he accidentally killed her with the insulin shots. How do you think his wife died. So was there but in this version of events was there an attack at all. I think there definitely an attack and then he loses his memory and she's not convincing. You're saying his wife just kills herself and he makes up the attack. Well what's what's the traumatizing. Event basically their causes his memory loss. I guess that would be the an attack on his. It has to be the attack right and joey pinned teddy is like the cop the case and he loses his anterior. Great amnesia starts but there is. he's he's convinced that there's not. He's got that that sort of krisztian grabbing her thigh memory. That's not and he's like that wasn't insulin. she didn't take insulin. I go back and forth on. I mean nolan. it has said the thing. that's so amazing. is that people refused to believe teddy. Because they find him. So so oily irredeemable but that essentially why wouldn't be telling the truth but there are other points in the story in the movie where teddy tells leonard a story. That's very elaborate that winds up being bullshit. You know whether it's like. I'm a snitch. He's a cop from out of town. He's working with local guys. Were setting up this drug dealer blah blah blah like details some pretty long tails. No i still. I guess i i guess i agree with you. I guess that that he is sammy. Jenkins and that there was an attack on on his wife that causes the problem. Do you wish joey pants had just played. Eddie moscone and this is moscow on fucking. God just did that whole thing. He's telling me to fuck your tell me to go fuck myself. I just want to see him. Running across grand central market to pick up the phone again. My big probably unanswerable. Question is just what happens to this movie in the era of mobile phone video. So what happens when leonard can essentially create a blog of himself like. Could you tell me that. Maybe that's the netflix series. I mean because theoretically like he could just have a constant record of stuff and you could just be walking into. It's not that weird to see people walking around filming everything anymore. Leonard because essentially like film himself in all of these interactions and have that stuff to refer to that by a better movie they might not be as mysterious because he would have this record. But i think part of the gimmick could be leonard would keep forgetting the charges iphone. Has i never on shit. I didn't church yes murphy. Yeah i thought do. I have to say forget it. We mentioned the whole thing about. So here's what happens. We see sammy in a mental institution. Someone walks in front of him..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"You had this idea. I think it'd be fun to do. We're just gonna for the first time we watchable history. The categories are going to be all fucked up. We're just gonna go completely out of sequence just a mess with people a first category. Who right no one. No one comes out comes out of essentially nowhere after doing the following and for five million bucks makes a movie that looks better than like ninety nine percent of all other films at the time. Nolan's going away yeah. He put himself on the map in a way that As you said was very authentic to the specific era of how movies were made and even had the whole soderbergh champing him and trying to get other people to see it. And the whole thing casting what-ifs okay add pay. brad pitt. Initially slated to play leonard. Yeah he didn't wanna movie star. After brad pitt passed retroactively was like i didn't wanna movie star anyway and then apparently considered air cart. And my guy. thomas. Jane todd parker so do you think they they purposely make guy pearce. Look like brad pitt. Because they didn't get brad pitt. I think they make him. Look like brad pitt. And thomas jane were genetically cloned as as a hybrid baby in a lab and became guy pearce. I think thomas. Jane would have been really good in this movie. And i'm still here for the for the three years when thomas. Jane janus science when he was sixty one and he was in deep blue sea and it just seemed like everything was happening. I think i think he has shoes off. The field eckert. I can't see it but i have a controversial opinion. I think this would have been an amazing brad pitt movie. It would've been which she had done it. I started watching. It would have been great. It would have caught him at a fantastic point in his career where he's seven was ninety five the black where it's like. Oh this is going to happen for this guy but then fight club crushed it and then if he had had memento rape before ocean's eleven i think that would have been perfect. I think this and moneyball would have been our favorite brad pitt movies. I kind of wish he'd done it. I do Another casting would have paranoid android by radiohead was going to be used in the crows and credits. Christopher dole was all fired up about is too expensive and It was a low budget movies. You said only costs four and a half million and they decided to punt on that. I really wish they had. That would have been five thousand incredible. Why not now go back and put it on the on the the digital release like goes by paranoid android now and make it be.
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"For twenty elaborate movies. That fuck with you. Yeah he he seems to arrive fully formed like he arrives as the finished product. Like when a couple of directors. Like you mentioned paul thomas anderson. I would even say like scorsese. He makes like a documentary and he does. Who's that knocking at my door. Danny does mean streets right like then. He does the movie that announces him to the world. In paul thomas anderson's the same way but then he does boogie nights and even though people love heart eight and i love hard eight boogie nights the thing that announces into the world and no-one had done this like seventy minute black and white movie called the following in nineteen ninety eight and it was just obvious that he had skills like if you if you go back and watch it you can see all the stuff there you can see all the pure raw talat there and then memento he makes for four and a half million dollars. I think he makes in twenty five days. But it's as tight as usual suspects or fight club or any thriller pop thriller from that era. Yeah it's impeccably crafted and really unusually good for somebody who you know the whole story this movie where. He's driving his brother from georgetown to la and his brother has this idea for moving. They just fucking around like yet we've seen versions of that but it's usually an indie movie. That's good but it's a little flawed. And you wish you'd done this or that it's usually like what if we did reservoir dogs but it was hollywood agents coke and it's backwards. Yeah he does memento. He does insomnia two years later. And that has pacino robin williams. It's a huge big budget movie. It's in alaska It's almost like he skipped a step. You mentioned the following. I didn't see the following. I saw every movie in the late. Ninety s i didn't even know that movie existed Memento comes in it really does hit and it also hits this fun time that You mentioned earlier where you know. Blair witch Memento where you could go to the movies and not know what was going to happen. Not have it spoiled too much. I saw this in the movies. I knew there was a gimmick intentionally. Tried not to find out about it and said have to worry about finding out about it because you could avoid those things back then you know. This is the tail end of that era. Yeah and this you know you mentioned not knowing exactly like what anniversary to celebrate..
"chris ryan" Discussed on The Rewatchables
"This condition this my memory. Richard roeper of even roker in the movies calls memento easily the best film so far this year. See once got gotta see it again. Wife deserves vengeance. And even if you can't you're not going to remember it genius who want to stay in theater and see it again. The one and experienced this year worth repeating memento rated r. right. Chris ryan is here. We are doing a movie that caused us both to go get a bunch of cats and so mine says number one watch. Luca memento.
NBA Trade Deadline Instant Reactions
"Got chris ryan who Is on the back end of one of the biggest pump. Fakes of the season Kyle lowry is stained. Put in toronto for the time being and that means that he is not going to the hometown. Sixers guys will share a hometown. How do you feel right now. That cao lowry is staying. Put and all that stuff that we heard that the sixers were going to go after him. The lakers were going. After miami was in the mix there was so many teams in the mix for kyle lowry. What do you feel that. He is not going to your hometown. We also got kyle lowry crying on camera last night waving goodbye to toronto aka tampa so this is a very strange story. They orchestrated this whole thing to make you feel like this was an inevitability. I was never really that confident that we were going to get lower that the sixers were gonna get larry for as much as i would love to see him. Return nova graduate high school basketball legend. That the sixers windows being a compressed a little bit by the media not to blame the media for anything which we are a part of. But i do think that the media ruins podcast right now after everything that we have gone through right now are you are you. All i'm saying is that like it doesn't all have to happen today. And i think what the the move that they did make by acquiring george hill for basically for tony bradley and like some some. Some add-ons is like exactly the move that they needed to make if they weren't going to get lower they got some outside shooting. Got somebody who could probably close games with the steph. Curry ben simmons tobias harris. Joel embiid lineup. Assuming everybody's healthy here's the thing. Logan everybody in sixers is feeling really good about the sixers right now. There's a job here. Beaten up the west coast without embiid. So i i'm not. I'm not that upset about it.
Review: The Crown Season 4
"Let's move on onto the crown. It's been about ten days most people who loved the crowd. I think we're done with the season. Sadly one of the season five do you know now for two years. Yeah because they filmed the two seasons together together usually with the cast. Because i think it's easier on production and then also with the cova of it all. I don't know when they will be able to start production so that there was a two year break between seasons two and three and i think there'll be more to your break. Who will you miss the most which actor being extremely honest. It's going to be joshua crowder for. I really am what a monster charles becomes in the second half of season four. And what an effect josh o'connor still has me. It's really quite something. I said this via text by the scene episode austrailia when they do the kind of the ballroom dance for the show which is a real event. I've seen a lot of side. By sides of the they got the close. Perfectly matched was so charming. I don't understand why all men don't learn how to dance ballroom dance because it was like ninety seconds and i'm sold completely infatuated. He can do whatever just absolutely despicable entitled selfish things. He wants to do for the rest of the season. And i'm like oh but this guy really charming. It's it's pretty sad. What happened with him and his family. Don't you think how about the australia episode again. Catch the chris ryan on the watch. Yes i thought it was effective. My i don't wanna say my struggle. Let me just say season for masterpiece. Love the show love all four seasons. Great great television will watch again. Can't wait it. This is a show about the crown. And honor show about princess diana and i know that intellectually but i hid obviously been waiting for the diana's season my whole life that sometimes i wanted a little bit more diana or just like there is a lot more to be told obviously it would be told from her perspective and it would just be a different show so i i hate criticism when they're like the show. Were another show. The australia episode was. I thought a very well done like condensation of the entire diana phenomenon into one also and in reality that like happened over a span of years and the up stage effect and everything that they kinda that they illustrate was was very real but develops over time. And it's like the media plays more of a role. And i think there is like a lot more stuff between charles and diana and you know there's all this stuff with What's going on with diana and her believe me and her family is shown and handled pretty sensitively but not always developed from her side. If that makes any sense yeah. I think if you also you read about her her mental health struggles were like it. Very extensive and it was went beyond believe me and i thought that like it was handled well but also like i think it's worth noting that there is also many other episodes throughout her life or at least heard adult life. Yeah exactly and i understand why because they are as loop says in the very last scene of the season. This is a show about one woman. And it's not diana it's about elizabeth and it's about that institution so and you could do one hundred episodes of the eighties in the uk. Like there's so much going on. So i understand the choices that they had to make narrative in order to fit it all in and i thought it did paint a like a pretty thorough picture. But i'm always gonna want more. I just really didn't care for her monologue on the plane about the baby. Not that i thought it was like. I'm not like she's wrong but i just thought that was like emigrants were seen. I was just like this is working for me. But i thought that the stuff with charles's was pretty good. Yeah i think. I continue to think. I'm a porn is like astonishing and i've been thinking a lot about what you said about how you're not a the huge a fan but that the performance kind of stuck out to you and i get and i think that that is really perceptive and for me kinda part of what makes it work. I don't want to say it's like intention early. But diana did not fit in to this family. It was like different energy. A different vibe. And there's a great line in the queen. Which is the peter morgan. movie about. Princess princess diana's death and the week after it. Which i recommend starring helen mirren great stuff as sort of like great crown prerequisite or if he also available on netflix. Right now justify But the character in the queen says you have to remember that there. Diana are diana or two completely different people. And i think the performance captures a lot of that and like the scene. Went diana's trying to hug the queen and they're they're talking at each other and it's not just that they have philosophical emotional differences but they just come from different worlds. they have different emotions different energies. It's like total total mismatch. And that's definitely part of the problem. So when she is making her stands are expressing her. Diana s. sometimes it's really heartbreaking and sometimes are like what are you doing. This is completely wrong as encapsulated that julia did not worry me about which i appreciate from spoiler episode perspective but from a personal perspective. The phantom of the opera video cassette was hilarious and excruciating and. I do think the first time. I like fully pulled the blanket up over my head when watching it. I didn't actually watch it. The first time i had to just kind of sit like that and know that it would end soon and then i read wound to watch the facial expressions that is bisciste. Yeah and i you know i don't. I don't think that happened in relaxed. Maybe it did. I've never read it. And i think i would remember it but really the billion joel performance israel israel. Yeah and it in caps elites. Maybe i think that poor diana who had a lot going on and as you said like a lot of mental health issues and believe me and didn't have any support like her family was not very helpful or totally absent in the case of the crown. But there were also some things that just really ideologies didn't align how about that and and that scene shows you why who it really is just like so much. I can't believe we're only gonna get one season about mc oran. I feel like i m not like her biggest fan but also feel like switching the diana character after one season. I don't. I'm not really in favor of but Must be a fairly significant time job. i'm curious to see how season five goes
Beastie Boys Made a Movie. We Made a Beastie Boys Podcast.
"I'm Shawn Fantasy and this. Is the big picture a conversation? Show about Beastie Boys. That's right beastie. Boys made a movie beastie boys story which is directed by Spike Jones and available to watch right now on apple. Tv plus. If you're like me and worship Beastie boys you need to watch this movie later in the show. I'll be talking to add rock. And like diaw Beastie boys about their movie history their favorite fruits. How they're doing in quarantine. The New York Knicks documentaries that they want to see a bunch of other stuff as I tried to keep them focused on our conversation. A really love these guys beastie. Boys are my favorite band ever and it isn't even really close so to talk about them before we get to them. I asked the VIC Ferrari to my Alessandro Allegra. Join me it's Chris Ryan. Hi Chris. I've always seen myself more as a Nathan Wind Guy. I've been waiting my whole life to do this. Podcast so let's go. I'm very glad you're here with me. I can't think of anybody else. I'd WanNa have here other than you. Except maybe Mike the Inadequacy and they're coming later. So when I say beastie boys what's the first thing that pops in your head Chris? Probably the invention of cool so I think one thing that we've talked about a lot over the last twelve to eighteen months. We've had a lot of Quentin Tarantino podcasts. We've we celebrated a lot of his movies on the watchable. We talked about them on. Big Picture Podcast with him and something that comes up. Ally is kind of how he gave us a vocabulary or language to through which to understand culture and understand the world and I think the Beastie boys are equally responsible for that in both of our lives in terms of introducing us to so much music and so much other culture that wound up becoming just part of our like way in which we relate to the rest of the world through these like Kung Fu and exploitation movies through rap Reggae punk rock weird funk like all like it just basically made collectors and fans out of out of us at the risk of stepping on music exists. I wanted to ask you why you think you. And I to some extent to are so interested in figures who are all about basically like recombinant culture. You know who take all the disparate parts of stuff that they love and smash it all together because that is the thing that the movie and then returning to all of this music that I listened to over and over and over and over again in my life that I have thought about is like wow they really just jammed all the stuff they liked together to make something new like. What is it about that? The second part of what you said is the most important thing. Do you think about the people that we really respond to. Wu Tang clan quitting Tarantino. Beastie boys it means we're very basic very and B. It's the most important part is finding the second thing the thing that you're GonNa make out of all this shit. And that's what makes me so excited is when someone uses all these postmodern tools in these reconstructs. All these things out of this of Cultural Ephemera to say something else. Wootten Klan took all those Kung Fu movies and took all those samples but made something that could only have been made in Staten Island. You know back could only have made the music. He made with the experience that he had. And the Beastie boys could only have been the beastie boys by combining bad brains with run DMC. Yeah and I feel like it's not a mistake that so much of what we do at the ringer and so much of what you and I have been trying to do in. Our lives is basically celebrate and be enthusiastic about the things that we care about and I feel like these artists are the same way if you if you think about Beastie boys and you even look at the way they tell their story in the movie. It's just we really liked was the clash and grandmaster flash and Cheech and Chong and we were trying to find a way to make all those things make sense together and I feel the same way about what we do every day I feel about you and I love the NBA and we love Top Gun and we love. I love deb's I don't know how you feel Dad's but You know just trying to find a way to make all those things fit together so I feel like I have aped and tried to copy a lot of what those guys do. And I feel like a kinship to their their mission their creative project. Absolutely I mean like you and I don't mean to make it sound like you. And I are the Beastie boys here but you know. I think that we use the Internet the way other people would use a sampler right and we draw in all these different media. We'd take youtube videos. We take a picture and I think it was probably more the case before we started working professionally together in an editorial capacity but we would have like tumblers and blog spots and you were just kind of like throw a picture Steve McQueen up in an article you were writing about those face and it would have some sort of relationship and I think that that was our way of continuing along this tradition of mixing and matching different pieces of culture to say something about yourself. The thing that you said that I think is probably one of the most important parts of the movie that will nocco very remarked upon because a lot of it is going to be spent talking about. Yok and it should be because this is very much I think an image to him in a real moving tribute to their friend but when Mike D says in the beginning of the movie that he was just this weird kid who found the clash. Not only is that like. That's the origin story for a lot of people. Who like they find that one band? Whether it's the dead or the clash or you know run DMC. Whoever it is that makes them think that they are now. All of not alone in the world the clashes like a really really important. Template for the Beastie boys because they are basically A Crossroads Group A marketplace. At Crossroads Group. It's where all these different cultures are coming. And they're setting up their wares and you can pick and choose off these tables and then you go home and you make something out of it. And that's what the clash did too. I mean you can make a lot of arguments about appropriation. And whether or not the people who the clash were taken from or or paying homage to properly compensated for the work that they did And the same thing could go. For the Beastie boys but I think a lot more people know about Lee Perry. Because of the Beastie boys did not you know and and that's like a really really important act in culture. Everything is about timing too I think about when they hit the scene and who they were working with and on the one hand I guess there's an appropriation question. I think they've moved past that so effectively because they were just literally there with Russell. Simmons and Rick Rubin and run DMC making music together and they were a part of something that was essentially punk at the end of its first true like lightning rod phase at the end of the day and and rapid the Dawn. You know I mean. They weren't there necessarily in in the parks in the south. Bronx but you know one thousand nine hundred. Eighty three played on the radio. Yeah Yes yes. And there's that great moment in the movie where Africa is asked about cookie. Post by one of the members of the Beastie boys and you can see like they're they're they're they're in the moment and they're going to dense area and you know performing for white people introducing them to wrap it away and that couldn't have happened if they if it was just five years earlier five years later. The same is true for the class. You know it's like they arrived at a time when the world was ready to hear rock and try to play reggae. And what that means for the future reggae. There's something also about this specific approach to the world though that jumps out to me. Which is it's not. Just this is what we like. It's this is what we like and I don't care if you don't like it and I don't I actually don't care if you don't get it because when I think about the things that I knew when I first heard the band it was you could fit it inside of a very small box. I just did my cultural reference points. The music that I knew about the the records the comedy everything that they were throwing in. I wouldn't say that I discovered them because they were sampled for three seconds on a on a record on policy boutique but they were a window. You know I had never heard of Sadaharu. Oh until I heard the beastie boys rap about him you know like there's so much in their music the sampling the lyric writing even if it is in their songs are very rarely like high minded. They're not necessarily pursuits of big ideas. But they put big ideas in front of you. Just by dint of what they were interested in and I I liked that kind of take it or leave it quality they bring to it and I feel like that really comes out in the movie too. Don't you think yeah? It's only a couple of people are lucky enough to have other people care about the thing that they care about. You know you can. You can play the game and you can try. Ride the wave of what's popular at any given moment. But it's so weird because what the beastie boys did especially once they move to La. I think wound up having such an incredibly profound formative effect on all the culture that comes after it but it so it winds up being underrated as as to what a zag that was how crazy it was for those guys to be like. Yeah we'RE GONNA LEAVE NEW YORK. We're GONNA leave behind rapper. We're going to go to capitol from Def Jam. And we're GONNA work with these two producers that basically no one's ever heard of an assemble these like really out there incongruous samples to build together a new sound that we're gonNA use to define us for the next couple of decades. The only thing I wanted to talk about because I think is probably also a reason why you and I like them. Much is that and this comes across very much in the movie much
"chris ryan" Discussed on H-Hour: A Sniper's Podcast
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Top Five Mark Wahlberg Movies: Say Hi to Your Mother for Us | The Big Picture
"Unfortunately this Shithole has more fucking leaks in the Iraqi navy. Fuck Yourself. I'm tired from fucking your wife. How's your mother good? She's tired from fucking my father. You have a job Tom. I'm a firefighter. Oh God bless you a hero. I'm not hero. We'd all be here. We could use the petroleum. No excuse me Christmas. Utah a lot of fucking money. What did you do? I mean if you take away nothing else for my class from this experience let it be this. If you're not a genius don't bother right. The world needs plenty of electricity and a lot of them are happy and they can help. It really can't be that we can always do. Better let me keep trying. If you guys keep trying I'm shawn fantasy and this is the big picture. A conversation show about Mark Wahlberg. This episode may break the all time record for big picture dissonance later in the show. I have an interview with Kelly. Reichardt the writer and director behind independent film classics. Like old joy. Meek's cutoff in the new film. First cow which might be the best movie of Two Thousand Twenty so far. I hope you'll stick around for that but I were joined by the frog. Sheriff Chris Ryan. I heard that Mark. Wahlberg actually dropped out of first cow. He was gonNA play the cow Alao. But you're already doing animal. Humor here on driver too is calling. Chris. You're here because you're a fan of Mark Wahlberg work. He's The star of a new movie. That is hitting Netflix. This Friday called Spencer confidential. I think gets his fifth film with Peterberg. The actor turned director of such films as lone survivor and deepwater horizon. This is a very strange movie but I think it's going to be a a very watched movie because the corona virus is scaring America into staying inside their house. And so I think that there's a potential for a lot of viewership of this movie. So we're talking about Mark Wahlberg one of the most resilient and persistent movie stars. I guess of the past twenty five years so let's just start with WHO is Mark Wahlberg. How did this happen? That Mark Wahlberg became one of the signature figures of movies in the twenty first century. I would not say I'm a fan of Mark Wahlberg as like I'm a I'm agnostic as a citizen. Yeah I would say that. I am very interested in the way that he has conducted his career. Which is kind of a weird throwback to a studio systems our he makes three to four movies every eighteen months somehow and just releases them at like a hugely prolific rate at. I'm fascinated by all the little pockets of his career that he has created where he repeats. You know he goes back to these little micro genres that he and he works a lot of people over and over again by the way he kind of has conducted his career to me is almost unique among Hollywood movie stars anymore. I mean most of the time when people achieve a certain level success. They just like see in three years for my next blockbuster or award fodder and he's just like nope. I'm grinding out. Family movie violent action film and then every once in a while Raunchy comedy and it's just like pretty pretty like unique among all Hollywood stars so I'm fascinated. What do you make them Amanda? I was fascinated when going back to you. Remember how many great directors he's worked with and how many actually excellent movies he's been in. Chris was asking me how much we watching I had to do for this podcast and the answer is a lot. Because I wouldn't say that Mark Wahlberg stays with me besides certain shots that will certainly be discussed on this podcast but he especially I guess in the first decade of this century just goes on a tremendous run. I really from Boogie nights on and works with a does a lot of really great movies and then kind of decides to just become like the Peterberg comedy guy in the second decade of the century. And I it's a really interesting shift. He just Kinda decides no. I'm going to do this now. And it's very fascinating to me I can't really make sense of. I also is Christmas talking about his efficiency. Just pulled up his daily schedule. Do you guys remember the days? Will he wakes up. Like four o'clock in the morning posted this on his own instagram typical daily scheduled to thirty. Am Wake Up. What don't you forty five prayer time. Three fifteen am breakfast. There's a lot of work work. He's golfing from seven thirty to eight. Which is the golf people? And there's a chamber recovery at nine thirty that takes more time than golf workout number two lunches and our so our meeting slash work calls also an hour and he goes to bed at seven thirty PM and which in Los Angeles for. I'd say six at least six months of the year. That is still broad daylight. Yeah Yeah Su. There is real efficiency baked into this. He's clearly very deliberate guy. He's making choices. And I think that pertains to his daily life and also his his career. There is clearly thought going into this. It's not a type of thought. I can access. I still don't know why you would wake up at two thirty and I don't know why you would do like five deep water horizons. There's a rumor that he has a routine. I think you. I'm speculating here. But I think he's a member of Wilshire Country Club here in Los Angeles. My husband told me this last night and he likes to play alone. He likes to play. And that's why he's playing so early in the morning and he's trying to get in like a quick nine or quick eighteen. I don't know five days a week which I'm who among? Us would love to do that if I could wake up before five. Am I would do it. I'll tell you I would love to do that. I'll tell you something else I am. I find golf to be social and I get crippled like when I play by myself. I'm like all the neurosis is creeping like. Should I take another shot now like it really playing golf? If you're not playing with anyone can just tell you. He's got three snacks on the schedule. Including one that takes an hour and a half from eight to nine thirty. Am is snack after seven. Thirty to eight am golf. Probably a euphemism. Oh Okay so you think. His sessions are ninety minutes. So you're saying to jump off something. Amanda said You know who? He reminds me of a bizarre way Cruz. Where it's like that run. Where cruises like I'll just work with Barry Levinson Stanley Kubrick and Steven Spielberg and every great director at it seems like I'm just the most important factor in the whole world and then one day he wakes up and says I'M GONNA make action movies for the rest of my life? It's very unlikely though. I mean his origins restraints obviously member of this very well known family. He's from Massachusetts. He starts out as a a rap artist and ultimately becomes a Calvin Klein M. C. An. Mc Yes we watched the vibrations video. Recently I took my top five twenty two. Would you make of good vibrations? And and how did you feel about the funky bunch all these years later? It's just really bizarre that this was a thing that we lived through. Who is the funky bunch? I I still don't know who's in it. Were you in a Chris? Thought it was the backup dancers. I mean yes. That's who they were but like do you know anything about them and where they are now. I was pretty. Yeah I was pretty. I was pretty authentic back then so I was. I was already listening to deep deep newer. Grab I love talking about the early nineties with you. Can we talk about the Calvin Klein ads for a second really really important? You're almost put these on my list. And it's and my honorable mention boxer briefs. Yeah I was still a boxer sky back then that was not interested in the product. Would you just tear the ads out of the magazine? Crumpled them up and throw them in the garbage. I think that the those are the signature moment in his career without the advertising campaign he would not have become weirdly Tom Like sub Tom Cruise but he you know. He soared to a of fame on that ad campaign. They're just extremely important. Ninety s imagery obviously came as also in them. And that's where the whole K. Moss thing starts Them Hating each other. Great early celebrity feud they're very important that's all and also it looks great. I mean he and his image was of basically like a tough guy with a bad attitude whether that was true or not he obviously got into some altercations and his his personal history is pretty complicated. We're not gonNA spend too much time talking about on this show. But I think that he basically leveraged his complicated persona in the public into a movie career and if you look at the first few movies that he makes replays these kind of like weird intimidating Undeveloped YOUNG MEN. You know in the basketball diaries in. Ryen Russillo favorite movie fear And even in boogie nights. There's something like violently adolescent about his his persona which is very different from the kind of actor and movie star that he is right now so a lot of times. I think that we could. You could write like a series of essays about how much actors of his generation have attempted to mimic the kind of like rough and tumble blue collar upbringing. That Walberg apparently had like how how often like DiCaprio Damon or these guys have tried to be like no I'm Jim Carroll and he's just a function Carol I'm the real thing but it's weird like even in his authenticity. If you WANNA call it that he still lacks like any kind of emotional intelligence or psychological depth to portraying those things and you could write all these essays. But you could just watch the departed. Because that's what this does that. Do you need that from an actor? Do you need to feel like this person is like in control and has that depth that Chris was talking about? I think I do ultimately. I think that there is a reason that I gravitate to Matt Damon instead of Wahlberg. And I think that you not just because of the departed and the Boston. Bill will talk about that a lot as a comparison but I like I said I really remember a lot of Walberg performances. Even though he's been given a lot of great ones and I think that's because they have a I don't WanNa say surface level. That's unfair. They're actually a lot of depth but they aren't the emotional depths and I think I personally don't hang onto those. I think I'm always wondering how in command of the Ark of his career. He is because you pointed out he makes he's. I mean he's just been a lot of great movies a lot of movies that are going to stand the test of time and it always seems like he's being cast the way that a lot of young actresses or cast as the. Nayef as the like the naive and innocent who gets corrupted when put into a system and like did someone in a room. Say That to him. This is your lane man will early like you think so. Well I just don't think that he I think he's largely in charge of the movies that he makes. Now he's like. I think that the movies that we see our movies that Mark Wahlberg once made for the most part and my suspicion is the reason he made that transition. Amanda was referencing about just mostly doing action. Comedy movies now is because those movies are more fun and easier to make for him there either like a physical challenge there like a day on the set whereas making boogie nights as hard Russell Smart. Yeah I think that he is both like sinking very strategically as the schedule would suggest and also like not over thinking it i. That's the VIBE. I guess sometime at the end of the day he's going like it very much is what it is. He is a very Surface level or just immediate actor. That's that's what you're getting and so I think he wants. He gets to produce the movies himself and make the decisions. You just kind of like. Yeah action comedies. Got There before we get into our top fives and I think we should figure out what we mean. When we say top five if it's five performances or his top five movies because there's some complexity. There is a very strange celebrity. The the nine eleven thing is you're staring right at. It's just hanging over my head as I think about him as a public person. So in twenty twelve Walberg was quoted in a magazine interview regarding. What would have happened if he had flown aboard American Airlines Flight? Eleven on September eleventh. Two thousand one. He'd been booked on a flight on flight. Eleven but his plans changed the day before the scheduled flight and he cancelled his reservation. Walberg received public criticism for stating quote. If I was on that plane with my kids it wouldn't have went down like it did and there would have been a lot of blood in that first class cabin and then me saying okay. We're going to land somewhere safely. Don't worry Warburg apologized for those statements. But they're actually the sort of thing that kind of inform his public persona and when we watch him in an action movie. We think that he's the kind of guy who's like I would have kicked some ass on nine eleven which I don't know if you like complicates the quality of the films that he makes but I can't get stuff like that. Outta my head once I've read or heard about it and I feel like we've referred back to it even in a joking fashion over the years right. Yeah it is definitely one of the top three things that I think about. When someone says Mark Wahlberg schedule yeah nine eleven yeah and the last night of prosthetic but like you know. I'm human beings. It's the point of the movie full movie as leading to that so yes I agree. It's funny he is both. I think very funny as a comedic actor like entirely humorless and it's that some things he's in on the joke on some things he's just kind of being like no I would have save. I would have stopped nine eleven. Which is just a ridiculous thing to say. And that's the joke of Andy Sandberg's say Heidi Mother for me. Yeah you know portrayal of him is this is like he's kind of total rube but also not. There's something very elusive about. Whatever's going on with an entourage thing it's like. Do you watch entourage because you think it's completely ridiculous or do you watch entourage because you think it's like six awesome representative drama and I dare to say that Mark Wahlberg is like Yup? That's how it went. I you probably think you're right. Insulin entourage Ari comes on and it's really like Whoa but most but he's like that's accurate me. Like Vince is very much living my experience. He's like we should make a show about it. I think. I think that you guys are right. Do you think that this should be five performances or top five movies I choose? I don't know I don't know where I landed. I think I did I tried to be interesting here but I I wouldn't say that any of these performances leap out at me except for my number one and number two as like excellent performances. They're more like movies. I really like was he ever given a truly great performance. Yes I I think. There's one and a half great performances on this movie and it's just a half is the end of boogie nights. No no I. Well that might be the case now. There's another movie I still did performances but I think they are. They are a little bit also an award for the movie knowing how best to use him right. Okay well then let's get into it. Let's go into our top five Mark Wilbur performances slash movies number five Amanda. Why don't you start us off? This goes out to Bill Simmons and apparently to right who I still have never met. Hello Ryan. I'm going with fear. Why not whow revisit? Yes I did okay okay seen Djing
The Best Movie Soundtrack Songs Of 2019 | Movies
"I have a very special show today later. In this podcast I have an interview with Robbie Robertson one of the founding members of the band a significant figure in movie history as well. Who HAS COLLABORATED WITH? Martin Scorsese over the years. He has a new documentary that he participated in the basically tells the story of his life and the work of the band called. Once were brothers so I hope you'll stick around for that and inspired by that conversation. I had to invite on Ringer Staff Writer Rob Villa. Who is one of the funniest and smartest people I know about music? I Rob She's we'll thank you. It's an honor to be here of course alot rob you write about music and movies at the ringer as well and quite deftly and I think the use of music in movies has always been frankly an obsession of mine and I suspect that you are also a sophisticated thinker about this idea. Is that fair to say? Sophisticated is a strong word. But let's go with your role with your a guy who has a functioning brain that watches movies with music in them. Is that fair to say Aisha's? Amd during sonic the HEDGEHOG. That's the way I would describe my relationship with music and movies me I was that guy I feel like there's a lot we know there's a there's a conscientiousness about choosing songs in movies now because we grew up watching scorsese movies and then the movies of all the people who watched. Martin Scorsese movies and start making movies of their own and so the use of the pop song. We're not talking about score here. We're talking about pop music appearing in films you know what is your. What is your sense of? Who Does it well and sort of what goes into making a good choice for something that's really obvious or really obscure. I think the obviousness I see a lot more in prestige. Tv generally like that's the plate. Like any use of radiohead. Almost across the board. Like I I like a lot of Westworld but just the way that Westworld is uses those pop songs you know the old style piano version of pop songs. It's just you're just sort of leaching off that songs energy like the the cash that it already has and you're just sort of stealing and implanting it into your TV show or your movie like it's there's a difference between stealing a song soul and like taking a song and building a new universe around it like sort of recreating it in re-energizing it it's a it's a great point. I'll never forget the moment I watched the pilot of Ozark. Which is the last the last episode of ours. Ozark that I've ever watched and at the end of it Decks dark by radiohead began playing and I was like. Oh this is that JOE now. I mean no disrespect to say Chris Ryan. Who's a huge fan of that series but actually that choice indicated to me what the creators of the show thought they were doing and it wasn't for me you know it just didn't Didn't click with what despite liking radiohead and Jason Bateman and. I knew that there was a pretentiousness that I was not going to connect with their What do you think makes for a good song choice in a movie? I think it has to be at least a little unexpected. It has to re- contextual. Is it a little bit like I? There are instances where obviousness is what you need and I think there are a few of those and my list here but I I think. In general you need some element of surprise some just more gratuitous are just more surprising way of using it than what you would expect. Do you think it's important to saying something about character or the scene itself or because one of the things that that Robertson said when he and I talked which I thought was interesting was the he really likes the contrast he moments. That's the moment when you take a very sweet song. Said it against a very violent moment or you take a very sweet moment and give it something more braces and that's obviously a hallmark of a lot of the people that are best known for choosing songs and movies you know. Think of Quentin Tarantino or fincher. Scorsese are all these people that I talk about endlessly on this show. Do you think that the that music can play such a profound role in telling a story in that way? I think so. I mean you can go too far in that the phenomenon of every movie trailer now using like a really slow down creepy version of a pop song like you think. Fight THE FI. The fifty shades of grey beyond say series. You know like I suicide squad. I think did that. You know you can go too far in that direction and and just use it entirely as irony like. Here's a really sweet song to contrast with an ugly thing. But Yeah I mean. That's that's sort of an overused tropes at this point at the time in the heyday in the early reign of those people those directors like. Yeah that was a really effective use of contrast. So we're here to do a top five list. You'RE GONNA share your five favorite needle drops in movies and I'M GONNA share my five favorite needle drops. Now I don't know your picks and you don't know my picks you almost ruined this podcast by accidentally sharing those picks and I would like you. I'm I apologize profusely and I apologize for my choices. I think this is going to be yelling at me in the next twenty minutes. That's my concern. You know what my concern is is just being too basic right. There are some things that are sort of undeniably signature moments in movies and music especially in the last twenty to twenty five years when when I think this phenomenon has really picked up. Steam and my choices are not songs that were written for movies. They are entirely songs that had previously existed before the film came along. Is that true for you too? I think in all but one case my number five. That's not true but I think that's an important thing that you have to have a prior. Ideally you have a prior relationship with that song that the movie changes. That's what makes a really good moment for me. Not all of them but that's the platonic ideal. I absolutely love that. I probably have one song that that is out runs an opposition to that idea. But that's a great
The Five Most Important Movies at Sundance
"The game we made up is essentially the five bio-pics you meet in heaven so we tried to find the five different kinds of stories that are told in the biopic format. Thought it was pretty fun. I think it's useful to play a game like that at Sundance because there are a lot of homes on not all of them are great in fact some of them are great but when one is good it can be a kind of transformative experience and they usually come in a in a particular kind of package. Now when you think of of a sundance movie what do you think of. I think of a quiet often heartwarming family or rip character-driven dramas with maybe a little bit of quirkiness added to them. That is definitely at least one of the Kennedy talking about this episode also documentaries that's the other one lots and lots of documentaries so she should we dive right in. Okay let's dive right in the first and the most classical example of the sundance movie is exactly what you're describing. It's essentially the family family drama. The sometimes lighthearted sometimes deadly serious as we go through these we'll talk about Some previous examples of films that have played at Sundance that fit this rubric. So when you think of this movie more severe example of it might be winter's bone or fruitvale station or affliction more lighthearted example might be big night a genre fight example might be like take shelter So these movies I think Are the most derided of the Sundance archetype. That's true I was trying not to be dismissive when I was describing off the top of my head but as soon as you say Sundance movie there is just a as soon as you're categorizing categorizing rising things in. You're being unfair to the things which I guess we're going to be unfair to every single move. We talked about to extend. This is a podcast and we need buckets. We need segments. We need to push the conversational says. I wasn't totally totally trying to be dismissive of the family drama. There are good ones. There are bad ones. That's a fact You and I had the good fortune. I think this year to see one of the best movies at the festival and one that falls pretty squarely into this framework. So the movie's called minority We just got out of our screening of minority. What was your takeaway from this film? This is a story about out a Korean American family who emigrates to Arkansas in the eighties and there is a little kid in this movie movie that just absolutely ripped my heart out and and all the performances did and I thought that it is. It's the best case version of this because it's definitely moves you but it's also funny as you said right before we started recording. It's beautifully shot. Well written it smart and not to truly if that makes any does it's an eight twenty four or movie written and directed by a man namely Chung and he has an interesting gracefulness with what what appears to be his own story. I actually don't know anything about where the story comes from but when we were discussing earlier we identified that. There is an incredible level of specificity in the story. In the setting in Arkansas in a family trying to create a new life for themselves a new state and a new country trying to figure out how to stay married trying to figure out how to be good parents trying to figure out how to be good. Children had to be good grandchildren. It's a very complex. WCHS portrait of a family living in close quarters. Not Totally. Sure if they're going to be able to go forward with their lives in the way that they wanted to and all that stuff I still. I'm kind of does a disservice to the movie because that just sounds like Sundance Hokum And I think the movies a little bit more special than that now. Are We experiencing the festival high on a movie perhaps. Perhaps it's possible but as I was watching it I think you'll probably see a lot of comparisons to the farewell about this movie as the year goes on and not just because it's from an Asian and filmmaker but because it's a particularly a story about three generations and how three generations interact with each other and some of the confusion that happens when one culture collides with another culture in place that they don't fully understand the farewell. It's obviously Luang main character. Visiting China Grandmother. This film is a Korean American family moving into a rural place. The thing I liked about it the most is that it doesn't apply the usual tricks that you would think a movie movie like this about a non white family. Moving into the south in the eighties. Might incorporate a little bit more subtle and sophisticated when I heard the word Reagan Reagan early on in the film. I got a little nervous. And there is a lot of thoughtfulness about the socioeconomic aspect of the story. But it's not there. No burning crosses in this movie there is no. You know vindictive vitriolic language about the family. It is really just a family story which I was kind of relieved about honestly it's really insular and it's explores the relationships between between all of the members of the family pretty specifically and individually and but and that's enough that kind of fills up the movie. Yes so since. We've you've never been here before. I kinda wanted to talk about a movie like this. I think this movie might fit into another category and other sort of bucket. We've created here but I've never been able to witness in real time. I am the life cycle of film. That May Be in the consciousness for the next twelve months and to be on the ground floor when that thing happens did you have that sense when you're watching this or did you just feel like well. I've been seeing a lot of movies this week and I'm doing my best to take stock of all of them. I think it was the ladder with their recognition that I thought this was a very good film in one of the best films. I've seen this week. I'm I'm trying to protect against festival buys. I don't I don't know. Do you feel like so. You need to to start some festival buzz right here. I don't think I'm capable of such a thing. I need to know my own power which is minimal nor do I and I think I'm more I have never been to sundance either and I'm treating it more as what you said. It's interesting to watch it happen. And I'll be curious to see how other people respond to it and what it is like to watch it in the screening leaning room whenever people get to see at. Were you know in a movie theater or at home. I don't have a sense. Totally of how those things translate yet and yeah I don't either. I mean it's the sort of film that You know on. Its face. It Star Steven Jahn who obviously had great success actually not utterly dissimilar story burning in two thousand eighteen. There are some kind of thematic and visual references. That kind of match interesting double feature. I just don't know a lot of the Casas. Very Unknown Hania replays his his wife. Stephen's wife who you know. They're the sort of the lead couple in the family. And we'll patent plays a minim. Paul who is is a local aid a spiritual man who works with the family. He's giving what I would describe it as a very sundance. He performance he's anti character is sundance character. Maybe ripped from real life hard to say but this movie is like sort of very quiet and subtle and Paul is not not the most subtle. You're in the world. I don't think Paul will be competing for any awards but Stephen. I don't know he's really turned himself into quite a quite great leading actor. I will say I already mentioned the kid at this is an all time great kid performance and we were talking about after seeing the movie like. How do you get six year old to do what the six year old does? And I don't have the answers to that. I hope to discover them at some point. But we'll say really good kid. Performance goes a long way. It's true in people really love to see a cute kid up on the screen. Uh Ribbon hearts out yeah. He's like a charm vector and an empathy machine. You know that every time he's not screen you're looking at that. I really just feel for that so we didn't attend this party. Apparently he was here at Sundance. Walking the carpets at cowboy outfit. Yes big big park city energy from seven year old Allen Kim. We look forward to more things from him in the future. Go to the next kind of category. Yes okay so I. I've described this as the adult oriented comedy. Now I think that also sounds a little bit dirty like like not not not scatalogical your sexually dirty but just sort of like corny. I'm not sure that adult oriented in comedy is something that you want go together like I said as soon as we're applying larger categories to these things that invokes branding evokes marketing. It invokes all of the things. That aren't a work of art so so I think that's why we feel the way we feel but also this is how the world works and it's definitely help I've gasworks keep going so I would say some of the movies that fall into this. Category are among our favorite movies so four four weddings and a funeral plate sundance many years ago. John Have you seen for weddings and a funeral. I've seen thirty eight minutes of it. What is why do you do this to me is well? It's just the film that I started to watch movies. I watched the whole movie well. This isn't Chris Ryan. I watched the Irishman on three consecutive nights. Nonsense think of it like this life life is one big screening okay more in a continuous stream viewership and happy with you. One day I'll get to the conclusion of four weddings and a few I wasn't going to post host. The picture of you tweeting on the shuttle earlier but now I'm going to is a threat. I want people to note that for the record. Another example of this is significantly different from four weddings and a funeral. The movie like in Bruges which you know well before Martin mcdonagh was being canceled for three billboards outside ebbing Missouri. He was writing really nasty. hilarious assassin in comedies. I hope he gets back to this style very soon because I love that movie very much the next two though I think are more closely associated with a kind of tree. Cly Sundance Story. Now these movies are both huge hits and are kind of emblematic of something and I will admit when I saw them for the first time I was like I liked this movie a lot. The two thousand wild different time very different time the two movies. I'm talking about our five hundred days of summer. But you may recall is the so additional Joseph Gordon Levitt Rom COM com.
'Toy Story 4' is a Masterpiece. Is It in Pixar's Top 5?
"You. I'm Shawn fantasy editor in chief of the ringer. And this is the big Pixar podcast. They conversation show about Toy Story, four and all sorts of childish things. I'm joined today by apparent at the ringer rob heart villa. Hello rub. Hello. How's it going? It's going very well. And I appreciate you being here. You know, some of my frequent co host on the show among them, amended Dobbins, and Chris Ryan are, just straight up assholes about animated movies, and I noticed that I need to have people on to talk about important animated films. And I think even before you were a parent, you would have been a thoughtful and sophisticated guest for this episode, but you are a father and so you are happenings moves to Pixar in, in deep way in recent years. Is that fair to say that's very fair to say very complicated relationship with these movies at this point? But yes, yes, so we'll talk about that a bit on this show. I think we'll start the show though by talking about the new Pixar movie, which is, of course, Toy Story four, I think, when Pixar I started about twenty or so years ago, I never would have guessed that. That there would have been a fourth installment of any of these movies, in fact when they started. They seemed like a new version of a kind of storytelling that didn't necessitate sequels if you look on the ring dot com right now you can read a really interesting column by miles Surrey about the state of Pixar and their decision to make a series of sequels over the last ten years, and what that means for their, their brand, and what it means for their business and what it means for their creativity. And in some ways, I think it's been really threatened over the last few years, you know, we were just talking before we started recording about the infamous cars, three, which I would say is not one of the more legendary. In the Pixar verse. But Toy Story four, I thought was quite wonderful. And I thought it hearkens back to what makes a lot of these films. Great and also push them forward a little bit, rob. How did you receive toys story for what did you make in the movie, I saw last night with my sons who are eight and five and sort of Iraq is sort of preview screening. And I my kids laughed more laughed, louder just more obnoxiously than at any movie. I think that I've ever taken them to know. So I by by that measure, I mean it was a huge success. And I thought it was wonderful, and I thought it push things forward, but also sort of hold back on that sort of classic Pixar idea that like the kids are delighted, and the parents are total emotional wrecks. You know what I'm saying? Like I it's sort of an impressive mass magic trick that these movies can do. And I think especially of inside out, you know, which was, my, I think I've written about this on the side a couple times now. But like my son walk. Out of inside out. He was five at the time and he thought anger was funny, and I was just crying mess, you know, because I just watched I just watch goofball island, which is like the visual manifestation of like a joyful kid becoming a sullen teenager, like depicted, on, like a giant theater screen, and it was just the most crushing experience like the way those movies these movies are designed to work on those two levels, and they sort of drive, the parents to the toy store, but also to therapy, like, I, I feel like this one was sort of uncomplicated, Katie just funny and delightful and I had it seriousness and had like themes that parents, especially it would pick up on. But like it wasn't working that dichotomy where it was sort of, like designed to upset me personally, you know what I'm saying? Like I feel like they can play with that a little bit. But they don't have to hammer at it all the time in every movie that they put out, you know, I could just enjoy my kids, enjoying this one, a lot more than I feel like the last. Several Pixar movies. Yeah. I agree with that. I do think though, there is this entire school of almost academic sought around Pixar movies. And if you want to, if you want to experience Toy Story four as an exegesis on creationism and identity and a cartesian analysis of society, you probably could do that. I absolutely. Yeah. And I think that is that, that whole divide is fascinating to me the way that you've underlying basically the pure kid enjoyment of something, and the way that adults are entertained, and even moved by some of their films. I feel like can you give me a little bit of a sense of as a parent? What it's like to see a lot of movies like this, not just Pixar movies, but animated movies or what's on TV or what streaming for your kids and what the balance is between this is secretly for parents. And this is actually just dumb entertainment for kids, so that they don't like break things in the kitchen. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I've seen every type of movie along that spectrum, you know, and I haven't hated any. Movie that I think I've taken my kids to even like down to, like rock dog or whatever, you know, like I it's the LEGO movies are trying to be adult and trying to be knowing and it feels like they are specifically pitched for the adults in a way that, like a lot of the jokes are going right over the kids heads, like I don't dislike those movies, but I think that the LEGO movies are a little too cute about that. You know, I've seen plenty of things like, you know, the emoji movie or the trolls movie or whatever. Which are, you know, have theoretically adult jokes, but aren't trying to work that duality certainly the way that Pixar movies. Are you think about four key who like the new protagonist are like the new cool character here in Toy Story, four four key spends the movie like having an identity crisis like ease? He's a new toy but he thinks he's trash. And like he wants to be trash like he's literally, a spark with pipe cleaner arms, and he spends the whole first thirty minutes of the movie is going trash trash. And like I think that's really profound. And my son just really loves the way that four key keep saying, trash trash, like he did it. My son did it all the way home whole drive home like. And it's that's a cool. Little thing, that's you know, the different levels, and you can appreciate it on without it having to be this comedy versus tragedy divide. You know, it's sort of typifies, you know, again, like inside out, or even like the last toys story movie, Toy Story, three ends, of course, with, like, the scene, where they're all heading down into the incinerator, and they all sort of somberly, join hands and they're sort of resigned to the fact that they're all gonna die like all these little toys, and it's you know, I'm sort of a crying rack, and like my sons are sort of mildly disturbed, but they figure everything is going to be okay. And it is, but, like there's a moment of like pure pesos on that level in this movie, and I was, frankly, kind of relieves like the idea that I have to walk into every Pixar movie like braced dad, this huge sort of existential breakdown, you know, as my kids, just enjoy themselves like at felt like we pulled back on that. A little bit. And I was grateful for that. I agree with you. It's it did feel bit like an episodic adventure, which wasn't a bad Yang. I think sometimes you can get a movie like that, where the stakes have been lowered from the previous film, and you're like, well nigh. You're just wasting my time. But inevitably when it's a movie about anthropomorphized toys, somehow, it's nice to just have something that is a little bit more fun. I mean you mentioned Toy Story three which, you know, sort of ends with that transition from Andy to Bonnie, and then inevitably Bonnie becomes the, the young child, who is the owner of all these toys. And so were reintroduced to a world that features some of Bonnie's toys, and then the toys from the classical Toy Story story, and then four he comes along on the first day school. I, I did feel in that sort of first day of school moment that I was getting some of those inside out vibes that you're talking about where it's sort of, like they have managed to metastasized the most vulnerable feeling that you can have in your life. That that's scary trust. They of school where like I don't know anybody and everybody hates me. And I'm afraid and I miss everything. Is comfortable around me and they zero in on it, and they show it to you through the eyes of a little kid. And you immediately feel a recognition. That is a storytelling power. That is often overstated about Pixar allow me to overstate at wants more like it's amazing how they manage to locate and isolate those feelings and show them to you on screen, and make you relate to them like I am consistently blown away by that. There's another one at the end, when there's the kid lost at the fair, you know, she's just sort of there's a little girl, and she's crammed between, you know, to food carts or whatever, and she's crying and like, yeah, it's the exact same feeling and I yeah, there's a conversation also I think it's between Woody and four key. And like I think what he says, like, you know, these kids like you watch them grow up and become a person. And then they leave, you know, they'll do things you'll never see like the whole point of these movies is that the toys realized that one day, they'll be abandoned. You know, one day, they'll fall out a favor and one day, the kids will run off without them and won't need them anymore. That's, that's not even subtexts. Like that's just that's exa-. Exactly how parents feel watching these movies, you know, I think that's always there. And it is really striking. You know, I mean, this is possibly the best movie I've ever seen with the numeral four in it. You know what I'm saying? As you as you said, like I understand sort of the dismay, or at least a concern that Pixar has become by and large, like a sequel factory, you know, but I I I didn't dislike incredible to at all. But like I felt like certainly this was a better sequel than any of the other sequels that we've had this year. Obviously, you've been talking about how terrible and how sort of lifeless, they are like this is just a one eighty from that. Yeah. They staved it off. It's, it's a pretty impressive single-handed job in a in a friend summer from hell for this movie to come along and, and gay ever. So briefly, I think I think pause things one thing, that's notable too, is, you know, we're talking about the human emotion that they're able to imbue into these films and into these characters in the movies directed by Josh Cooley, who is. Essentially a first time Pixar director, though. He's worked for the company for a while and the screenplay has two people credited, but the story has two four six eight people credited and it's a complicated list of people. I'm going to read it to you really quickly story by John Lasseter Rashida Jones will McCormack Josh Cooley. Valerie LaPointe, Martin Hines, Stephanie, fulsome, and Andrew Stanton. Now, the last two people are the official authors of the screenplay famously when this movie came together, Rashida Jones and will McCormack her writing partner were brought on board to write it, and they eventually left the project because they felt like they were not as open minded about new voices, particularly a woman of color talking about the way to tell these stories for Pixar Pixar, very famously has had some fraught history with, with John Lasseter, one of its co founders chief imagine ear for a number of years due to sexual misconduct allegations. And the company has I, I would say affectively weathered the. Storm, whatever that can mean an has moved on from Lassiter, who I believe is most recently appointed to a position on inside of sky dance, and they're animated division of paramount, but it's so strange to have an event like that happening
The WTF Movies of 2019 So Far
"I'm Shawn fantasy an animated, and this is the big picture a conversation show about movies, I guess because movies are still happening in the shadow of game of thrones were having kind of a weird conversation this week, Amanda, and I are going to be talking about what I thought was going to be the best movies of the year so far, but as we went down the list, and we thought about what we've seen thus far. And what we wanted to see we realized that this has been kind of an odd year for movies. So we asked you guys on Twitter. What you wanted to hear talk about you gave us a lot of responses. Some of those films are brilliant. We've talked about some of them on previous episodes ashes purest white, for example, or or transit or us. We spent a lotta time on us shot. We spend a lot of time a long shot Apollo eleven. These are all fascinating brilliant, beautifully crafted movies. We'll talk a little bit about them here. And there as we're going through this. But Amanda, I think it's probably better if we talk about movies that confounded us confused us excited us and ultimately left us. Just wanting to talk. Yes. So here we are to talk. I'm gonna I was ultimately inspired by seeing dragged across concrete. Have you seen that movie? I have not because I think everyone in my life has encouraged me not to I don't think you need to see it. It's Dorothy by minimum as Craig Zoeller. It was there was some notoriety around it because Ahlers movies have a particular political bent, kind of free speech, a finding that some have perceived as very conservative. It's a movie that stars Mel Gibson in Vince Vaughn as to police officers who have been suspended and then spend their free time trying to stop a Bank robbery. Boy, it's larded with a lot of intellectual and political complications. It's not really worth unpacking here. You know, there's been some really good writing about it on the ring dot com. I would encourage you check that out Chris Ryan and Adam name and had a conversation about it on the watch a couple of months ago. And I think that was part of the reason that they spend an hour talking about it. And at the end, we're like we cannot endorse this, but also here all our thoughts about it. Yes. I walked away feeling the same way though. Less interested like less excited by what it did. But it does feel like an onramp into this conversation because there's a lot of cool stuff in it. It's very well made Zoeller is obviously an artistic person I do not agree with many of his ideas about humanity. And it left me feeling like I had both wasted my time and saw something unique. And I think that that's definitely a theme perhaps a segue to the movie serenity. Wow. Yes. So this was maybe this was among the most requested in the call for submission. I think it was the number one request. Why do you think that that was to be set up serenity in any way? Oh, gosh. I guess we how do we train serenity? Let stars Matthew mcconaughey and Anne Hathaway to bona fide movie stars which is of note and it begins as a kinda Morrish or Neo Noir ish situation on an island, and Matthew mcconaughey has a white whale of his own called tuna. And he also has. Some demons and an ex wife who needs some help. Then that's in Hatheway, that's pretty much it. He's a fisherman. He is he's got an habit pursuit of Justice the tuna that you're ferring to and he's got a first mate enjoyment, Han Soo and Hathaway plays that ex wife and he's got a kid. We keep hearing about that we see and his ex wife's got a husband played by Jason Clark. And this movie is hysterical. And I don't mean, it's funny. I mean, it is literally operating in hysterics the whole movie is the most pitched up over the top preposterously plotted movie of seen in a long time when it came out mile Surrey wrote on the ringer about all of it's absurd. What the fuck nece, and I didn't read that piece at the time because I didn't want to spoil for me. And it took me a couple of months to get around to this. And usually when someone says, you gotta see this movie. It is effing insane. I go quickly before whatever reason I didn't get to it. I don't think you to either. No, no. I watched it at home. Which we'll come back to. So Stephen Knight Ronin directed this movie. Stephen night is best known. I think for creating peaky blinders which is a show on Netflix. And he's written a handful of movies here and there, and he's thought to be a very well respected writer director in Hollywood. I I'm I'm just baffled by this movie. I don't understand what he was going for. I mean, let's just say that we're we have to spoil the talk about this movie. So if you haven't seen serenity, and you wanna see serenity, I guess I can sort of recommend it as an ultimate Curio in American movie going, but it's pretty bad rate. It's not I all of the hubbub. I thought this was a good what the fuck movie, and it does not really deliver. It's more just kind of like how did this happen? And how did this many people make it this far, and sink that this all came together? So now, we're going to we're going to spoil the reveal spoil away. It's video game. It's a video video game. And they carry the son who is referenced throughout the movie, and then like all shown like eighteen times throughout the movie is programming. This whole world. And everyone else is fiction of his imagination. And he's doing it to like connect with his fictional dad or something or for a father figure and to avenge his real life stepdad, which we should talk about the problematic aspects of that. But anyway to your point of what this was trying to do. I thought it was like matrix gone. Extremely wrong. Right. I thought that it was trying to engage with the idea of. You know, the video games, and the captured that they have on culture right now and imagination and that idea of the simulation, and what's real. And what's not and revenge and the game if occasion of life, I think that that is my most generous reading of what is going on here. I do not think it delivers on any of it. And I do find that kind of video game to real life violence aspect a little troubling. So I will say as a twelve year old computer geniuses evocation of what adult conflict is a what an adult's life is like an adult who lives on an island called Plymouth island, which is somehow tropical. I'm not sure if there is a tropical island called island. It actually seemed on point because when you're thirteen you don't really understand what it's like to be an human adult, and what it's like to have problems in demons. You know, there's a lot of complicated ideas in the movie math mcconaghy's. Character is a war veteran and Hathaway's. Character is a survivor of domestic abuse. Yes. There are some some really weighty females here. And by the same token, the like, I said the movies just kind of hysterical. The kid the actors are going so over the top in every scene and Hathaway, I think is more or less playing Barbara Stanwick kind of like forties. Fifties era kinda bombshell Dame who's trying to draw a somewhat innocent man into an awful plot. Sort of like the postman always rings twice, you know, meth mcconaghy's kind of the John Garfield going. But they're so pitched up and it's also happening on a boat, which is kind of a ridiculous setting. That's that. I I was just just really confused by how actively bad it was. And I know that seems like a simple criticism. But even if it was a commentary on the way that thirteen year old sees adults. I still thought it would something was missing. Does that does that make sense? Yeah. I will also say I I watched it at home as did you and it really suffered from that. And I would like to talk more about the context in which we receive all of these movies because I think it is increasingly important, but for this one you you really had to pay attention because it it was making logical jumps and giving pieces of so-called information that you were you saw the you're solving mystery. Yes. And I I suppose in a way you were more kind of on a on a video game quest, which as I I'm told requires a lot of focus, which is not what I give to movies. So I would I would. Honestly, look away for ten seconds. And then five new characters would be screaming about something that was like oh shit while I messed up miss something. And I had to rewind. And then it's not like the ten seconds that I missed provided any information or insight. It was just kind of jumping around. So I I actually experienced the real gaps between the ideas it like literally because I thought that I kept missing something. And then it just was never really there. It's funny. United spend a lot of time on this show talking about the movies. They don't make any more. They don't make built dramas. They don't make thrillers. They don't make rom coms. They don't, you know, all of these categories were always talking about lamenting, oh Hollywood is lost its way. And it's all big ten actions that piece movies. This is the kind of movie that we're saying they don't make any more movie stars leaning into a big showy part. It's high concept. It's not based on any IP. And yet
Avengers: Endgame Has Overwhelmed Hollywood. Is That OK?
"Sean fantasy editor in chief of the ringer. And this is the big picture a conversation show about the end of moviegoing culture, as we know. It just kidding vendors. Endgame ruled and is better than game of thrones. I'm here with Chris Ryan and Amanda Davin. Getting the Friskies we're going to talk a little bit about avengers and not game. Thrones. If you wanna listen to stuff about game of thrones. I encourage you to listen to Chris on the watch. Maybe you can catch up on the thrones. Which aired last night. Maybe you can check out Benjamin later this week in here all about the battle of winter fell in whether it worked or did not work. There are some dissension in the ranks here at the ringer today. We're talking MC you not just the movie itself. But also the box office implications, and what the aftermath of that means for summer movies. We're doing a little summer movie preview man, and I'll be chatting about it. But I I thought that you guys are the perfect pair to chat with after doing a deep dive with Mallory Ruben because Amanda, you're on the record is not being the biggest superhero movie fan in the world. But also someone who sees these films out of obligation and has developed a lot of feelings about them. And Chris, I tend to think you're the most you're the person who I'm most eager to hear what he thought about these moves every time you see. I'm right here. It's not that respect your opinion. Amanda, I think it's very valuable, but you're operating from a base level of not. So sure about this, Chris I. I think he if he can really go positive or negative. Sure. So I'm time. I'm wondering what you guys thought. Like, I'm a newborn baby every time I enter a movie. Yes. But sort like Benjamin button this baby. Did you cry? Speaking of a game. I did not cry. Okay mandate. Did you right now? I didn't staunching. So I cried because I feel right? And so. Chris what'd you think? I had like a feelings wave when Peter Parker and Tony stark reunited at the end of the movie, I just felt like entirely a piece, which I think is ultimately what they wanted you to feel which is that I was entirely a piece with the endeavor, I felt fine. And okay about the amount of time. I've spent thinking about this these movies and seeing these movies over the years, I think is really telling listen to you and Mallory talk about it because being a little bit older. I think that I don't quite have like deep passionate connection to it. It's not like a real maker break franchise for me in the way, some some others are, but at the end of the day, I felt like you guys pulled it off. You get you made it emotionally satisfying finales to what was pretty unprecedented endeavor in movie making history, and they made it work Mana. Yeah. I thought it was a fitting conclusion to this experiment for better. And for worse in some ways. It it certainly there was a little bit of everything for everyone, including. Me. I mean, the last show I was delighted I wouldn't say I was like crying or deeply moved. But it's very excited to see Hayley Atwell back into seek cap. I frankly old cap be very happy. And also, I thought pretty handsome for like a really old guy. It'll head ahead. And then yeah, that's true. They didn't age the hair. And I thought that nice. I thought the last shot was very sweet and was kind of going back to many of the themes that we talked about in our podcast about captain America the first venture. And some of the things that I felt the MC you had abandoned. And so I felt seen in that moment, which is not something that I often feel in these movies, it took three hours and a lot of garbage CGI to get there. So, you know, and, but I think other people delighted that we're delighted by that. And so again, there is something for almost everyone in these movies. And that's kind of what the experiment was about. Right. Yeah. Definitely. And you know, in the Morville months years that we did on the show in a you. And I talked about captain America. The first of. Injure. Chris unite talked about the avengers both of the things the key talking points that we talked about in those podcasts really rose to the surface on this one. You know in your in your case, it was how halio wells the most important person in the MC. You Chris for you. It was quite literally that Tony stark is the most important person, the AFC, this was a genuine sendoff. Yeah. I don't I don't think we'll be seeing Tony again. And it was interesting the way that they built him into the not just the centerpiece of the story, not just the emotional center of the story. But like the engine of the story, and I think when we talked a few weeks ago, you were saying that you're not so sure that they're going to be able to do this as actively without him. I think they're staring to an abyss. And I think they might dive in and the this is called Disney. Plus, you know, I think that the the way that we're going to be talking about these movies in ten years United texting over the weekend. And I was like, oh, should I read this comic line to kinda see where it's going or read the story line? And you basically were like here's what's going to happen in in ten years. We'll be talking about this so called to be friends with Sean. No, I think he sent the text and there are some. These are anti spoilers over here. Also. But he's like, I he sends tech. Sometimes I'm just saying we're gonna join but this. This one was like, wow. That sounds incredibly plausible. And it would take about ten years to get. You know what I mean? And but for me, you lose stark, you probably you're gonna lose Evans unless they graduate Evans too kindly, uncle who shows up somehow in some of the other movies. And I think they're going to take the characters that were remaining with the exception of Black Panther, captain marvel in the guardians. A lot of them are going to move to streaming a lot like Sebastian STAN, anti Mackie. They're going to streaming LOKI streaming Wanda envision explicable or going to streaming. So like a lot of these characters are now going to be on these little five episode little mini runs. And I think that they have a charm problem. Now, I think that there is going to be a little bit of a like we need to work to like build up some of these people again, and that will probably come with the characters that you were talking about. But it's gonna take them a few years to develop those projects, you're there's two ways to do that. I think it's evident to me. And I guess we'll see when Spiderman far from home comes out. But they do have a centerpiece in Tom, Holland that was the loudest cheer. I heard both times. I saw the movie that was the person that people were most emotionally connected to and that is the legacy of Downie Downey made that character very meaningful to a lot of people. You know, they they created that father son dynamic, so I could see that effectively being the new iron man of the series. The other stuff is is a little bit up in the air. You know, it's like I feel like the one thing we can kind of all agree on is that they really just handled Chris Hemsworth beautifully over the last five years. They've just figured out how to make him a trueblue movie star. Amanda, we'll talk a little bit about her enthusiasm for men in black international. Maybe later on this podcast but