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Podcast #130 - The Big Reiner Lovecast

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38:44 min | 7 months ago

Podcast #130 - The Big Reiner Lovecast

"The hello everybody and welcome to the very one hundred thirtieth episode of the shut up and sit down. Podcast a podcast about board games. And that's it is nothing but board games. So i sincerely hope you like board games. This could be one of the most dismal thirty minutes of your life. My name is quentin smith. And i'm joined by my friend colleague but mostly my friends but also my colleague. Tom bruce how. That's it's really sweet intro. I'm glad the friendship is tempered with the sickly. Clawing aroma of collegiate professionalism. I wish we want professionals. I wish you and i were just friends. Who didn't have to do a podcast and could just play board games all all day just over a hang out. It's not the case. It's not the case instead today on this. We have to talk about talking about several games by perhaps the greatest living board game designer. Well not perhaps. I believe a lot of people would agree. They are the most legendary board games of all time. It's reineck nitsa. Tom and i have both published video reviews recently onto its games my city and modern. Are we going to be discussing that a little bit. We're also going to be talking a little bit more about the quest for el dorado. These games have in common. They're all absolute lease down king. And you know what. I don't even want to have a preamble. I just wanna sting right now so we can get into games. Perfect recall energy high maybe. Welcome to this high-energy podcast. We're gonna stop. E quincy published an excellent video review of the game that is called my city which is one might say and that be correct in saying. Mr reiner dr. Ryan can see as i ever legacy gain. Wow i think that's true. I think it's true that in fact check on that i don't i don't want to look not must've tedious. My city is a game about placing little cities. That are the shape of if you imagine like tetris pieces and you're trying to place them on a grid you're trying to maximize your points by doing things like surrounding wells with four different buildings or ensuring that all the red buildings touch one. Another and ebi of points hough. But you can't do things like have a building crossing a river a big no no because then. That building is technically a bridge. And that's not allowed. You can't build on mountains. You shouldn't build on trees but you should try and build on rocks. It is absolutely fantastic. It's very simple. And the real thing that people need to know about the video review of my city that i published is. I managed to destroy the rod in my shower and take my shower curtain because tom. You had an absolutely hilarious Joke in your recent button show review where you appeared in the shower fully fully dressed as i tried to do the same thing. Turns out that makes you close really where does hung them up and the weight of my close destroyed several fittings in my bathroom. And you're to blame. But what do you think about my city. I'm gonna put ashton of my city on ice real real quick just to just very quickly. Just say like that. That whole shower. The shower joke. It's harder to do than you'd expect because it just feels wrong getting into the shower and wheel clothes like leaves. You did because i was uncertain when i filmed it. I chose to have the shower running. Then get in fully dressed as you say felt wrong but i was wondering what i did. It did you instead. Get in the shower in your clothes. Then turn it on. Ice switched on the shower and clambered into the shower in my clothes. And then i also because i hosted a test run as well so i was ready like saying. The cameron like sloshing water around the bathroom. And then the next show. I'm standing in my bedroom with presenting. And i had to put a big trough underneath. I didn't bleed into the cup. Not bleep blimey full out of my body into the carpet. That's all i wanted to say is. It's a weirdly high effort joke for literally like a second of maybe someone going i. It made me laugh out loud voice. So you do is jealous. Wanted to also make people off. There's a there's a very good reason to go and watch thomas review of button shy games and my review of my city was. Let's back to back. What was your experience playing. My city is really an isn't it is really really good. I think that there's something so strange about reading that rulebook and you nail their viewer is like oh that is literally rules. You turn a kagyu. Tetris peace down and you move on and pitching that game to someone and being like right. We're gonna play this game three times and already going on now. Like i played some of the estates threes on the estate is a brilliant game but it encourages the rule you to play it three times and we finished our first game of the estate. Someone no way. Are we going to sit down for maybe three hours of just the estates if you say to someone you're gonna play this game three times in a row alarm bells might ring because it's three games per episode. We in our first session played six games in a row because each one is like fifteen minutes of just snappy putting tiles down with no frills just decisions is so fast. It's so fast and so fun. I think that something. I feel bad for not including my video review and i'm lucky that they weren't comments being. But how does this compare to the thailand games because this is a mechanic kind of in vogue. Now this i know that trauma knows is a word that means a shaped made of four squares. That i'm gonna use it anyway because it's just like the useful language these games where you kind of tetris shapes together games like barron park new york zoo patchwork. My city viewed from the outside is just another game of that type. But it's not. Because i feel like all of those other games have other mechanics. Patchwork of income. New york zoo has animals that you turn into hotdogs. I guess i haven't played in. My city is is really just a shape arrives. Put down a shape. Rosie put it down. There were no other mechanics and turns out. That's great yeah in of itself. It's such a lovely. It's everyone knows that it's satisfying mechanic. Distilling it down like that and making the entire game about that very simple act of putting putting tile down as the very core and then like a little christmas tree draping all sorts of tinsel baubles over the top of it as it progresses but never so much the game becomes like an overwhelming decision mass. You silver not core talked. Like i think that's what this game represents in the in the in the reineck is that getting directly to the core of a thing like you have modena guest to the core of what a great auction is eldorado. The core of what a great deck builders my says you get to the core of what a great legacy game is because it takes a super satisfying snappy little nugget of joy in that call mechanic and then just piles just enough to keep it really fresh every single time. It's great yes okay. So if people aren't legacy gamers what my city does is when thompsons you played over and over again. He's not lying. believe it or not. You'll games linked together in a big campaign which makes absolutely no effort to explain why you're designing a growing city fills this sort of like sort of Open field and then you destroy all building up again and destroy the middle again. But that's what you're doing but as you play through the campaign everyone who wins the game sort of gets points so like if i beat tom than i'd get to notch a couple of circles and at the end of our campaign which is twenty four games of my city who has most circles not so much the most points earned and there are different ways to do that as you get deeper into the campaign will be the overall winner of the campaign which is very exciting but as you play there are what's twenty four divided by three eight. Thanks not eight different envelopes all of which contain different mechanics and secret. So you play your first few games. Which have their own rules. Then you open another envelope with new mechanics and new secrets. I spoiled the churches in my video review. Which i think is allowed because they're literally contained in an envelope labeled the churches Tom do you want to talk about anything that you found anything that you uncovered charter mental spoiler. What there is. I enjoyed very much. When you star there's a little bit later on so you're you're annoyed by that all these stupid trees and you can't place your things on the trees. When's the game going to let me take those over. And then you get a tiny sawmill right and you can start just cut down the trees and placing nice even astroturf where they once stood until you've got a nice shiny greenfield but it's something as simple in that game is like so that the saw mill caught him which chapter it's in might have been i. It's in the flood flood. Very nice like the i i actually will reveal. I'm i'm going on. I'm going crazy spoilers. Now i want to reveal what the flood us. Because i think it's the funniest is maybe the funniest revealed to me in my city. Because you have this boards which absolutely cannot fit all of your buildings onto. It's like it's a nightmare that's the entire game and then it gives you more buildings and you're like oh this is so hard now and then the flood happens in the game says okay now for the in these episodes you can only build to the right of your river which is so insane. It's like the games getting a bit a bit harder bit hotter and you go okay. I see what you're doing game and the game goes and now i'm going to break what's great is. If you don't like that mechanically find it. Very frustrating only being able to build on the river. It's literally over in about five seconds because those games are so pacey to three of them and within that we're saying that each chapter adds new mechanics each subchapter each chapter tweaks those mechanics. Just a little bit and evolves them over the course of those three games so by the end of the flood. Like you know you've got this sawmill and you can start chopping down trees and stuff but what's so great about it. Is that like not only could the flood because it annoying. It's over quick because you're playing half a game of my city now you're only using bills. Yeah it's some one of the things i wrote down. That said i'd mentioned in the video. But i could go into more detail on. Is it really felt to me that all of the different mechanics that you're adding which are really kind of twenty four weeks of the same game. He doesn't get increasingly complicated either games. I've played it takes mechanics. Away often takes the com- the sometimes it takes the annoying mechanics. Few i'm glad that's sometimes takes mechanics. You liked away and in. What is definitely the most pompous comparison. I've made on the podcast for many years. It almost feels like it has the kind of plotting in the video. It almost feels like a novel because you know it. It gives you things that are harder but it makes things easier. It will have moments of peace and then moments of conflict. It'll have i. You have to kind of say goodbye to mechanics that you actually really likes and people. I know like people think like he games containing secrets in new mechanics. That you get to reveal as you play that sort of almost defines the genre but legacy is also also destroying things like isn't just adding stuff to your game and making it more and more Bloated legacy is also saying what can we destroy. Repoprt move and i dunno i. It's not. I was truly upset by the removal of i touch but i did feel that i was moving through time. I was moving through a not saga. But you know what i mean. I know what you mean. Which is a strange feeling when the game is asking you to reconstruct the same city over and over again in the same land over again. I definitely know what you mean. It's rather than looking back on sort of like my city like you would your board in pandemic legacy where you go. Oh look this was what happened to johannesburg and this happened to this place and you can see that story. Visually told on your board. I think my city has less of that but it has more of like it. Lodges those chapters into your memory. Because you do remember like when you're doing you know one of the later chapters way one of the rules you have to build buildings sequentially next to each other to get maximum points. Which was my favorite chapter. I think where it turns the mechanics of the game on its head. Oh i know the exact when you're talking about we won't reveal what what that is but it changed it. That's maybe the biggest single change in the game and when it happens i felt almost. I almost was like grieving. Because i spent so much time. Playing the game was beforehand when it changed. It was like we can never go back right exactly exactly. And then you'll have. That big chain seismic shift and you'll be like. Oh no this is. This is a nightmare. Now gonna play this game and go well no at least we're not playing the flood. Remember that yes exactly exactly. That's what i'm saying. It's like now you've got me. I feel i feel great kinship with you. Thank you i did want i. I'm going to break that kinship immediately as as is only professionals as impressionable by giving you a big disagree with something that you said. This is a bombshell to drop. This is this is here. We can sound. This is going to be something. I'm going to be dragged for ten years. People are gonna go called leave. Tom said that it's really something terrible. Don't worry okay. Here's my bombshell. I quite like art in my city. Oh yeah you know. I i. I'm gonna say the what. I a few more times by showing their social says. This is your take i i. I don't actually disagree with that. I'm not completely happy with how. I delivered that line in the review because in their view i complain really my complaint was. The theme could have been more excited. The the color of the art is a little bit dim. It's a little bit doc. It's not very bright and poppy. Nut agreement like yes. And that's kind of what i wanted. What i actually said is. I don't like the art. And i think that was. That was missing because actually the buildings are quite quaint. The way they're illustrated's is cute. But i we've seen a lot of city games in the last ten years and my city is not one of the pretty ones of those. The thing that i settled on applying it was like sure you can have a different theme. And i think i prefer different theme. That was a fantastic on the that said call it my city and it's about little mice scavenging like bits in the walls are fantastic. Because then you know you could explain why to move vacuum. Kim foss every you know every two. I think that would be really great and i would prefer it but i often find that like more. Ambitious themes can often like carry the risk of like kitsch. I think the best can designs of the games look dry because they offer no distraction from the mechanics like so it's like something like blue. Lagoon is a really good example where blue lagoon is like slightly more ambitious in. Its seemed to maybe through the desert like slightly more like bright and colorful and poppy. But i find the art design and not so much. I don't like shia. I kyrie what i can think it even know. If that's the right word to describe. Ask but i think mice are being so bland. Does it really good service. Because it's the perfect art to decorate this core with right like because the game is all about this very very simple corn and then adding the bells and whistles onto the top keeping the so plain and dull does some good service to the design. Because you're not having to abstract anything. If that makes it does make sense. But i think it works but i am dropping this bombshell and you agree with me. So pieces may still be friends. Fine i think that the best reineck nitzia themes all do what you're saying they don't get in the way of game there's no sort of complicated storytelling or sacrifices to the design made in the service of i know making you feel like an art dealer making you feel like a caravan owner in the sahara but but good ryan themes do make the game just a little more evocative and memorable like for example the theme of the sahara and lining camel trains between in Through the desert does not get in the way of the game but it does change. How i feel when i think about through the desert i think about the colors of the camels. I think about the beautiful little sweetie plastic palm trees. And that's i mean. I've just named to plastic things. One of the great things. I wanted to say about my sister. I didn't in the review is that this is a legacy game. Where when you're done with it you can put it in the bin and you don't feel bad because it's all paper would yes. As opposed to many legacy games. We do contain a lot of plastic. I just i. I definitely agree with your point. The ripen it's he had designs a so also Simple and clean the good themes. Don't want muddy. That will get in the way. I think a lot of the themes i suggested at the end of the review Would have done exactly that. But i do think they can just be a little more evocative even or just a little more colorful. Yes yeah look just bump up the saturation in those buildings by about twenty percent jobs. A good evening exactly. Why didn't they do that. Fix them making games as easy turns out. You just have to say what you're doing a podcast gonna easily however we're gonna talk about a however we're going to talk a jesus however however however we're gonna talk about a couple of reineck nazi designs and this actually brings me onto a point. I wanted to make to our audience. Because i've been thinking about running as a designer partially because for at least five years or shut up history. We made fun of him. And that's not our fault because he was publishing games that particular great at the time but now he's unquestionably on saragan. He's made my city which is his first legacy game and one of the best legacy games in the genre. He made the quest for el dorado. Which is his building games. And one of the best deck building games ever made and so i want to take a second to points out why i think he's a great designer to our audience because they might assume the run against is a great designer because he has twenty award winning games and another twenty games that our award-winning in inverted commas. Meaning they have won awards but the games involved on that memorable sheltered speaking forty one hundred games that's more games than most designers will ever published full. Stop but actually. I don't think that's the reason. He is a legend in my mind right because he is a legend to me because not because he's made all these amazing games because all of his games amazing not so simple and this was kind of maybe. I'm a little slow to realize this. But this week i realized that all of the games. That shot up on loves raw. Modern-art chris road my city all have rubrics that are like three to four pages and it almost makes me sad when i realized that that's possible that you can make great games that i can teach to families because the board game industry we've got to this point where we have family games. Which is industry code went for simple games. You can play with games and then the entire rest of the industry and that's such a shame because ronca shows that shouldn't be a distinction between family games and complicated quote unquote good games because you can have both if you are as much of a genius as he is. I think that that's definitely true. Like i was refreshing my brain on the rules for modena briefly. And i pick up the rule book for the modernization. I open up. It's like two pages of rules and then like eight pages of just pitches of the are in the game. This i think the thing that's lovely about all of the people who say that the rules are simple but they spill outwards into like a sequence of realizations. They interlock in such like exciting and interesting. It's like really good. Example is like when playing modern watching people realize how each of those mechanics impacts. Each sort of segment of game is just so exciting. The the the realizations couched within those rules are like so vivid. I think like eldorado. Pretty good example where i forget my family recently. They've never played a deck built before. I didn't even describe it as a deck built. I didn't say this is a deck building game. I didn't want to get in those muddy waters but then the speed at which they picked up the fact that it was a deck building game and how to do deck building from. Those simple rules was just like astounding. I you know. I think this is this is. Let's talk about the genius of eldorado a little bit. So i think one of the reasons. It's so accessible to people is it uses a foundation that everybody is familiar with even if you don't play board games because it's a race and there are loads of race board games. Candy land backgammon. Whatever so eldorado gives people this very familiar. Rapper of we're all gonna start here with his little wooden person and you have to get your wooden person to the finish line first so people feel comfortable and then you introduce the deck stuff but the deck isn't the focus. People aren't intimidated. I would not sit down in front of dominion which is arguably as simple as that bill because that idea of you have to build a good deck is actually to get to grips with a race. Also there's a deck of cards invalid and making those the college that you're getting so the way that they interface with with the board. It's not like move. Extra spaces like to get this jungle. So i get a man with a big machete i interface. It's so that's where the theme doesn't get in the way. It's kind of like those of explorer. The theme is actively helpful to learning the game. Yeah and then the other thing. I wanted to say about eldorado. Effortlessly solves the biggest problem with that building games that we were discussing. As recently as our podcast about do imperium and the name of that game yes so op traditionally how this problem adecco. That is a game. Where on your town. You can buy cards from a shop of available cards and put them in your deck now. The original bill dominion when you start to play that game all the different cards you can buy which i think is like sixteen concert. Something like that. And dominion are available to you. Which means dominion has this initial crunch point where players have to look at the shop and be like oh. I have to absorb all of these different cards. I can buy a lot of kind of lighter. Deck builders try and get around that by having a really limited shop. You see this inclined. Can you see this and doing imperium where there are five cards that come off the shop deck and those are the five cars you can buy but this is intensely irritating to me because and i heard you complaining about this as well tom because it drastically limits the strategy that that you can choose because you've only got five entirely random cards in the shop. Yeah especially on. I play as well especially when you're when you're just interfacing with the game and it's giving you the random selection of five years ago. I'll be great if i had loads of those in my dad. That's like a nice feeling to have and then to have that taken away immediately as you realize that there's none of that left when you start playing. We'll use june imperium as a whipping boy for this. It means when you stop playing. You don't know the combination of cards that are gonna come out of that shop. You might see a freeman card. And i'll collect because it's pretty low those and then as you play you'll realize oh they're actually quite rare in the. I'd do any forward planning because you don't know watched cards even going to be available to you in future anyway. Back to what ryan did with israel dorado. He walked out the solution. More games have got a steal because what eldorado does has a limited shop of like maybe six different decks of cards. You can buy so you do know that you'll be able to buy those cards probably in future next time because there's a visit several of them but when they run out the next plan to go to the shop can bring any other little deck of cards into that shop so it's a hybrid of both. You know that you're gonna play with all the cards you just don't know what order they will be available and players can choose. What order they come out. And i'm probably describing in a way. That sounds complicated. But it's so smooth and so simple and eldorado destin genius nitzia for you right there right there looking at the microscope for that you can see it on the surface. I i'm big in that up. Because i don't think the industry gave him enough credit for solving the with that he's not even the focus of the game and it's a simple game. It's just like he solved on and solved it. But you know what i mean am keen to play more eldorado. I've come to this. Having only played a couple of games. And i want to want to get back into that. We actually didn't get to the end of our last game because something came up but it was a game. I talked to my family. It's a game that i can teach to friends as well and it will hit those same beats regardless of experience. I think that is like absolutely cole and genius in. I think the thing the thing you said earlier the The really resonated with me was these. Simple renegades designs offer such an easy way in for families don't play ball games to enjoy those revelations that keep the rest of us playing board games over and over and over again that the way that you look at a mechanic and you go. Oh and you start to understand yes for that reason i think if i want if if i had one shot at showing a group of people who never played design games why this hobby is great. I feel like it would have to be running games. You put in front of them. Because they're the only games that are simple enough to almost be described as family white games and yet mind-bending enough to make you realize why this hobby addict. Yeah the thing that i think. I've realized when teaching games my family is that most people outside of the hobby don't like rules and the thing that you need to embed in people when you're trying to get them tha coax them into the hobby. Is that the rules of the fun. And that is the lamest sentence. I think i've said ever it's true like the thing. That ball game is love rules. And that's what it said that we just following them. We like interpreting them and looking at the seeing how they coalesce into something that's joyous interesting and having running his games have such low rules. Overhead gets you to that that revelation that rules can be and are really exciting when those cox dot turning in your head. Yeah i think that's the absolute genius is the speed. Those games will get you for learning the rules to realizing. The implications of that rule is is where all that genius lies. Yeah i think it's so much. Subtlety in in making people comfortable as well as simple rules. And if we think about eldorado it's so the question is a game where you have to race across the jungle and you have to buy different cards with different symbols. Get through stuff like you have to play a boat get over water and you have to play michetti to get through thick jungle for example you have to play money. Interestingly to get through the people who actually live your furiously. Bribing them if you have no money through which is hilarious to me. But the that in not having numbers in having this when you when you were saying out here as they are running against. He's getting. Donnie seems to get in the way sometimes. Sure but themes can also be a best so helpful for people if el eldorado had just been so you need to play a red three to get through a red hexagon that puts people off but to say you have to vote to get across the river. Yes it doesn't it is another people can interpreted easily doesn't frighten them And that's so important to not right away. You wanna talk about modern a little bit. Because i think that is another great example of what. We're talking about. Sure a couch. The session i should have. We're recording this poll constantly but early but if all goes well i'll have a video review of modena out on out two days ago. If you had a seen to this now on. Friday the alabama check my calendar twelfth every great once your favorite joke in the review to have mind for it depends how lazy i am. Because there's a joke in the review. Or i say it's time to go to the economy zone and then i run to the economy's zone and then i stand in front of a whiteboard and i tell the viewer about how money works but if i'm lazy i'll just run downstairs and all the pair in next to the whiteboard slightly out of breath if i'm not lazy as a field namely the i'll run across so it looks like i put the faraway no in the video. Just picture it solve. It's got an has to create works myself. You know editing out the podcast but yes Is is an absolutely fantastic auction game. And i think the the reason it really stands out for me as well as the talk about teams getting in the way. I think that not only does more the knock the way i think it really like maybe running it is best when the themes completely elevate the mechanics into something else when they when the theme fits so perfectly even if it is a little bit like not most exciting space artists in the in my other work by the way i discovered excited. I do little documentaries for youtube channel. People make games. And i well. We'll get to why this is relevant. Just didn't video on escape rooms. And how that designed and survey on escape rooms told people the most popular themes escape rooms were basically relates to either solving crimes doing crimes while the least popular themes related. T- zombies and magic. Yeah and so. I don't think modena is a boring theme because in modern plays an art dealers and dealing and selling for outrageous amounts of money and making outrageous amounts of money. I don't think that's a boring thing. I think that's actually if you just take your average person on the street. I think that's something that they kind of they might wanna do or they might wanna make fun of you do absolutely. I think that is a perfect marriage of female and mechanic in that sense because it has this. If you want to take as an almost tirico game it can be taken like that. Or if you want to take as a hyper-capitalist make money game. That as well does a great opportunity both betty i should. I should probably explain what it is at. Its core modernize game by auctions. You have this big hand of really beautiful paintings each you're going to be auctioning off to the rest of the table. Putting in the middle saying a few words about it and saying people might buy it and they can. Those paintings will have all different kinds of auctions on them so for example when you put down an open auction where everyone shouts outbids it might be a one-time offer i you say. One offer not see a whole lot or a hidden auction or double auction so ads is of randomness to each auction. So you put down you do an auction and then everyone's a chance to bid but at the end of the round he will sell those paintings and those paintings are worth a different amount. Depending on how popular the artist was that round. So if manuel cavalo has sold five paintings that round. He's top dog. His paintings worth thirty pence apiece. Whereas if your if you've only sold one cigarette painting that round than she might not be worth much at all or maybe even nothing and then on subsequent rounds. Those costs rack up over time and i. Hopefully this will come across in the review. That goes out now slash when it goes out is that there's this lovely steps of realization. That happened throughout modern. The first one is like oh it's lovely. It's about selling paintings spent game convincing your friends to buy the painting because it's the prettiest and loveliest rambling about that and having a city time and pretended you know about arts and then no. It's not about that. It's game making money it's about saying. How can i flip this painting for ten inter. Thirty how this painting from thirty into sixty and trying to gain that system and then you realize after that well no. It's not really gained by that at all. it's a game about this murky valuation and player interaction. Where you're realizing that every time you sell a painting or you buy a painting rather you're giving the person selling free money. Sure you might be making nine dollars from that painting but you bought it for thirty of a person who bought it for nothing. They had it in their hand for zero dollars. And then you realize that and then you realize after that actually it's a game but hand management because you have this dwindled throughout the game and you realize oh each turn. I'm only going to have these cards if i make this. Art is really popular this turn. It's a good job. I've got a couple of leftover because then that'd be beneficial to me in later rounds. And then you realize there's a game about psychology on top of all of is game about messing with people and jacking up prices and bluffing and deception. Which then all ties back into that. I call which that it's a game about making selling nice paintings because at the end of the day play my family. Someone just overbid him a painting because they wanted it. God bless your family awesome. I agree with everything you just said. And yet the thing. That's so important about more. Not is the yes. When you're in it know you're free to have all of these marvelous revelations and that is kind of what people would say. Security is modernize such a cover game. But what i'm saying is is. He's a great designer. Because you can see family dance plays game and says who wants to auction paintings which are only valuable based on how much we'll pay for them and then that's kind of just it's straightforward enough. The rules explanation as long. And it's an interesting hook and it's like you said it's two pages of rules and that to me is what makes it not just good and prolific but a legend because to state. The obvious making a good simple game is harder than making a good complex game. Yep yes one hundred percent. It's that the genius. I think that's where i'm gonna put my light. My stance is that the genius of those designs is the rules get out the way and the revelation sort of make themselves in your mind like goes straight from rules to ask quite clever. Isn't it for literally anyone anyone can appreciate that. There's there's something clever going on there at their own pace during the game is just genius. I'll just a weird blog here for a book of reineck nazis. The i own the this isn't super widely available apologies if this causes whatever supply renewable to sell out. But it's a book called dice games properly. Explained and can't remember if i rambled about this on the podcast pool. But it's pretty fascinating so it's like a repository of dice games. Which are like you know how you can play. A little game of the deck of cards. Turns out that people would do carry dice around with them back as early as the nineteen fifties and then with a handful of and paper and pen. You can play a lot of dice games online gambling games as well with just a handful of dice. And if i feel like the only one of these games have survived is liar's dice awesomeness peruta. Which is played all over the world. Weirdly when i was backpacking in china. I found that people play in nightclubs and it makes sense that it stuck around. 'cause it's one of the best games ever made but what i didn't know is that there are dozens and dozens and dozens of other games. People were applying for hundreds of years to do with just dice and they all got a raised and they've all been lost to history. And that's why. I think probably explained is a really interesting artifacts but what i think is relevant to you as a designer now is the of course. Run can is able to well not of course but it makes sense to me. That right here is able to design these games so good and so simple because he has the foundational understanding of what do people enjoy about rolling dice. What you enjoy about flipping carre whereas if you if you were a new designer now and you want to design a ballgame. You might think oh to make a replacement placement game and then all of your foundational learning is all of these incredibly complicated work replacement games you've learned. You're gonna make something complicated but right now i feel is coming at games from the angle of. I like rolling dice. I like cards. I like puzzles. And then because he's also a professor of mathematics he's able to turn these simple building blocks into you know the the the still simple but the simple masterpieces makes. Yeah he can. he can put that. He has enough qualification. So if ryan shut up what what. What qualification what officials shut up down qualifications. Should we should we. I think we should give him the shut up and sit down recommends badge okay. Yeah we we should have tattoos tattoo temporary tattoo maze so the next time we run into him at a convention we can apply it is. Foreheads shuts it down recommend. He's he's he's too. He's too nice insensitive temporary tattoo our logo on my think ryan every listening. I dare you to prove us wrong. That hasn't been the shutdown podcast. Everybody tom it's been a real pleasure. It's a pleasure to pleasure. Quinton thank you. Thank you for having me. I after this. Do you want to play another test. Game of that review. The coming up. The i stole from you because you wanted to review it and i said no way and i pulled off. I can't believe you stole that game for me. I was because i was not only was. I excited to review that game. I was also excited to just get a free copy of it and player. Con- no because i took the copy and i'm going to do and video review. That's going to be good and we shouldn't audience anymore. But i'm so excited i'm excited that one as well. Thank you for less than have goods. Wait we should mad libs the sentence. Okay so is it mad libs where you do all. I can just mad. Libs is whether there's a blank in the sentence and you can put any word. What's the one where you do a word each. Oh that's stupid game. We can do that so you wanna start yes. Sure sorry on. I'll i'll. I'll do light because i'm going to edit this out okay. That's this week. Shut up and sit down and podcast. Thank you thank once you go. What thank you thank you ruin already. But how went to spoil. Everything said one sentence goes thank you. Thank bobby a perfect. That'd big okay. Did you want us thank you. Thank you know seriously. Talk to same. Tell me the sentence now that begins thank you. That was the point. The point was that is going to be a stupid sentence. It was going to go thank you. So let's let's try again. This will go after the end of the park. Okay yeah yeah. Yeah thank you may fall. 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Episode 4- The Houses on Union Hill Road

The Piketon Massacre

37:52 min | 3 months ago

Episode 4- The Houses on Union Hill Road

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It is this is orchestrated if you orchestrate something that goes to planning everybody understands and their position in the orchestra they understand what notes to hit. They have a specific purpose. And the job they know the area and they know the pray they know the nature of these individuals. Hell they know where their homes are. They know were security cameras. Are they know what they have to defeat to get past these whether it'd be locked timing wilted the bed. Tom they know all this. That's why this is so shocking. When you begin to think about it is the level of orchestration involved. A pull this thing off road. This is the painted massacre returned to pay county season two episode for the houses on union hill road. I'm courtney armstrong television producer at katy studios with stephanie. Lie decker and jeff. Shane hundred investigators and police officers have contributed so far to this ongoing investigation. Today they say they received eight hundred. Eighty three tips conducted. Four hundred sixty five interviews did thirty eight search warrants and sixty cyber extractions. I'll question this has been by far the longest most complex and labor intensive investigation. The ohio attorney general's office has ever undertake as investigator. I've worked Any number of mass killings. i've never covered these just. That's coroner distinguished professor and criminal forensics expert joseph morgan. It is not a normal thing to walk into. House and symbol and mass. It's something that waters only apocalyptic from the outset. The sheer magnitude of the case posed huge investigative hurdles for the pike. County sheriff's office johnny. It's it's a rural county. Of course they don't have a lot of money. It's not judgment just of when you begin to think about those detectives that were from this little area. They are pipe from pike. County sheriff's department this something they'd never worn witness to it leads to limitations in your ability to processing so it is Herculean under undertaking for for these investigators and less than a month into the investigation authorities made would seem to many leg. An unusual decision has already begun to move the homes where eight members of the road and family were found shot to death last month in pike. County ohio the judge has authorized his people to load the four mobile homes and transport them about four and a half miles north to the investigation command center in waverly to preserve the crime seeds while we talked with joseph morgan. We looked over aerial photos of the crime scenes before the mobile homes were removed. They're all we have to go on as no crime scene photos have been released. There's a mockup. Showing the placement of the properties on our instagram. The first few images were of the property where chris. Senior and frankie rodents trailers were located. Jeff got morgan thoughts on pike counties relocation strategy looking at these aerial photos while we're talking about it. What really struck me. They lived in trailers but these look more like homes that are in the ground. That aren't going anywhere to me. That the crazy is the most important part and moving them. That seems like that would not be so easy after the termination of this case. And when it's finally these cases are all adjudicated. I'm gonna want to study this from a crime scene perspective. Because i want to learn how did this i wanna teach this because if they did it effectively. It's something that somebody could write an academic paper on. I mean it's it's that big a deal. If you look at this image you would have to detach that mobile home completely. And it's probably a foundational structure so it's it's at least has a cinderblock foundation that is built around the thing so that they can build a stick build a structure around it and then attach it to the mobile home. Just the sheer logistics of detaching this thing from the ground. I've certainly you know never worked a case that involved. Multiple mobile homes that where people had been dwelling for years that are plumbed and have electricity run to them and have foundations and that they're just lifted up the crowning taken from their this monumental task and order silicate this. You gotta make sure that nothing is going to be disrupted in transit because everything is relative relative. There's distance relationships. There's time relationships because things degrade change. We've got bullet holes. Well this is not like going into a static home. It's moving back and forth as it's going down the road. So it's shifting well what is it shifts just a few millimeters relative to if you're trying to pull trajectories bullets so to that end. It really gives you pause to think. Why was it that you wanted to move it from this location. By any measure investigating the road and murders was a massive undertaking. Eight bodies spread out across four bloody crime scenes and soon after the victims were found ohio bureau of criminal investigation and fbi agents were called in to help lead the charge. But according to. Joseph morgan before the rodents mobile homes were moved. It was imperative that authorities analyze the scenes in their original state's viewing that body in the context and environment which is found. That's where the tale is told at that point and you have to allow the body to tell you. That story made me personal space. Now they'll say in bed composition. Someone walked up on them when they were unaware. Maybe they were sleeping at close range like that a single round into the back of their head. Well i don't want to move manipulate the body until it's tom to remove it from scene after spending measured and examined for things like postal changes and documented foot graphically. I don't change the body at all. I want to see what the body is telling me. Current the bodies lead biggest piece of evidence that you have because that is obviously in this case the target of what individuals were strived debts where the most force is brought to bear this where the muslim violence takes place. That's where you have the most transference it's gonna take place from one. Object to the body of from one body to another body the violence perpetrated by the alleged. Assailant's the wagner is in the road in case was unusually brutal thirty two gunshot wounds between eight victims. All the one shot in the head and the evidence collected on the scene and in the lab will all contribute to chronicling what transpired on the night of april twenty. first twenty. sixteen in light of jack. wagner's plea deal will be integral for the prosecution's case against the other three wagner's murders exactly five years. After the road and murders in pike county one of four defendants jake wagner is pleading guilty to all counts in exchange. He avoids the death penalty and will serve multiple life sentences with no chance of parole his father mother and brother are similarly charged and pleaded not guilty to help them avoid a possible death sentence. Prosecutors say jake will testify against them. I spoke with joseph mckellar about how jake wagner's plea will impact upcoming trials unique understand the larger narrative. Here he's now on the outside jacobs on the outside. He's no longer for all intents and purposes part of the family. He is going to be a state's witness at this time. So you're going to have defense counsel. They want to prevent the state from validating. Anything that this young man has to say. So jake's alrighty pled guilty. He's already implicated his family. Why is how these murders happened important. Now they want to try to either put all the blame on him. Say that are our defendants had nothing to do with us whatsoever. It's all him and he suddenly got a guilty conscience. Had you know what we say a come to jesus moment inside roll over on everything and it's all him all bomb sell. It doesn't matter what we think what's gonna matter is what the jury thinks. Moving forward at the end of the day everybody else will be able to draw their conclusions. But how in the world is this going to be presented to the jerry. You're gonna need play bill to keep up with all of the all of various permutations here because if you got you know four different parties here. I'm including jake in this and what he's saying to to prosecution you've got four different parties here That are giving you different scenarios. It's gonna be tasked to someone to try to make sense of all this and that someone that that that group of people are going to be the jury it will be explained before the court and people in that jury box and before the judge they will say. Well we know that at this hour on the twenty first this occurred and then moving forward this is when the bodies were found will what occurred between these moments in top studying the aerial photos of the crime scenes. Stephanie put into perspective just how overwhelming task it is putting the story of the road murders together to seeing these photos now firsthand walking through them with you only offers up more questions for us not a small operation. This was huge. The volume of this case is one of the striking things for me. I think you know out. With every case that i cover. I don't recall case like this. That's blood sub and it is spread far and wide. There's so many pieces that have to be put into place this year. Leapfrogging from this bloodbath to another bloodbath. The forensics alone or highly complicated just from a geographic distribution standpoint is like a beautiful mirror. Okay that someone had hanging on the wall and somebody with specific intent went in and destroyed this mirror and crashed it down into thousands and thousands of pieces. And then is your job to make sense of these broken pieces and try to put it back together not necessarily to make it usable again but to try to understand what happened what affected its destruction. To what degree is it destroyed. What what instrumentality may have destroyed. And what the timing was like on this. How long has this thing been destroyed. Spoke with joseph morgan about the importance of time line. Multiple homicide case. Tomlin is essential here because you know we just have these bits and pieces coming out about the order. Ah death. they're going to be really focused on the body and changes in the body and traumas the bodies sustained. And all the things i think that. That's that's something that's critical as we studied the aerial images of the crime scenes along with the autopsy reports. Morgan tried to piece together the chronology for us because his body was in a more advanced state of decomposition. It's been speculated that victim. Chris road and senior was the killer's first victim. So we started by looking at the layout of his trailer. Joseph pointed out could have been the killers way in here. He is talking to stephanie. The a poor parking pad right there. And there's like assad walk that extends up to. that's a ramp. yeah walking up into this little walkway into the porch area and therefore into the front door. There's this entire runway which was likely where the assailants entered cracked. So that brings me to this point. How many locks would have had to have been defeated on that door in order to gain entrance. And how can you gain interest to the door without making noise but if you're going into that porch it also speaks to the fact that they did have multiple trained attack. Dogs surveilling this area. Why didn't those attack dogs attack. Because there's a quite a bit of runway for you to get up to that porch and a possible that they knocked on the door. They knew one another. They family was very close or had very close bonds angelo. Add no. is there a woman imam. So wouldn't you go to the door a little more. Even if you were at odds if the dads for example christina and maybe billy wagner odds over something. We've heard this but you know his wife is there and july. Oh what's happening more likely to open your door. It seems implausible that they would draw them to the door. You know it makes me. It really makes me think. Why would they be in the bedroom. And how did the perpetrators get into the bedroom without these guys know that tells me that maybe there was a hidden key. It does make sense about perhaps a hidden key. Certainly we don't know this is fat. This is speculation but we do know that they were running serious surveillance on the family. They have cameras at each of the locations in the homes. Really doing some top level surveillance on the family and jake. The youngest son was there quite a bit because he was sharing custody with the youngest daughter and for a long period of time they would tick tock between homes you get to know the location in the area very very. Well just speculated about why. Chris senior may have been targeted. I he apparently was identified as primary target or at least as a primary threat in our language. And you hear this in the news media quite a bit on television shows that there really is truly something that is to his. Kill chris seniors case. He shot nine times. What do you make of the brutality of that. It kind of begs that question. Well either you view that person as a threat. Maybe see that they're going to charge you. Maybe you have an awareness of what their potential for violences and that you want to prevent that. There's evidence that he attempted or reacted at least to the point where he raised his arm. He's taken one round in his right forearm but this is the part that is very very curious. It says that around pass through a door. I don't know which door he was in a bedroom. Maybe it was the door to his bedroom. And maybe he was hiding behind a door but then it goes on to say that that round intern passed into his body. So we're we're learning just in the sequencing with With the senior among among the road and clan that there was a lot of firepower that was essentially directed toward him. You know he resided in a trailer with gary. So we can samoa's that christina was first then gary would have had to been second because they occupy the same essentially saying space. They had separate bedrooms. But gary didn't receive the same amount of attention that christina. He was only shot three times but these three gunshot wounds. He sustained two or to the head. And it's kind of nonspecific in the descriptors. We know that one was in the face and this is kind of a theme that that you see running through the nature of all of these killings and off on that kind of interesting because anytime someone has shot an individual in the face from a profile standpoint that gives you the attitude that the individual is looking at them. That's year when their fire upon. We're going to take a quick break here. 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That's modus diamond dot com Victims christine and gary rodents crime scene potentially held cachet of clues for investigators. We know that the scene in particular was very bloody. Okay because we know that. Chris senior was shot multiple tom so when we examine examined scene that is a treasure trove of evidence collection there. If someone has tried to clean themselves clean. Their hands washed out a weapon. Maybe try to repair an injury of their own. You've got evidence sitting in the drain and this is something they would have had to have accounted for so all of the drain traps everything within there would have had to have been secured. What if got flushed down the toilet. Well you know because now that's gonna go into septic tank since this is so isolated. They're not gonna be city sewer system logistically. It's a frigging nightmare. I mean for a crime scene person. It is an absolute nightmare. You have to make sure that all of your bases are are covered. Outside chris boden senior's home was potentially even more evidence. Here comes the big part that portrait there which is a point of egress. You need to keep that in mind. That is a point through which somebody entered this damn dwelling. Just let that sink in for a second. That's gotta be detached and moved now. It looks like they have a concrete slab parking area. This actually very nice. It's got a trailer truck. A great truck in a small car that sparked right by the sidewalk in the sidewalk is poured. Concrete is well. that's all going to contain potential evidence. We know that that is an important piece of. It's almost footprint right. That has so much potential dna or blood or something that seeps into it potentially blood evidence more than likely they traipse out of that house this would have required a herculean effort upon the authorities. There as we mentioned crime scene photos were never released there. Were also very few ground photos of the surrounding area because the entire road was closed to the public however the aerial shots provide valuable insight into the crime scenes. Most likely the killers then moved to the trailer. Just a few hundred yards away. Where frankie roden and his fiancee. Hannah gilliam were living with frankie's toddler and the couple of six month. Old baby boy. I'd always pictured it much further apart from one another. It looks as though and again this is an aerial shot. You could on foot run from chris. Seniors home to frankie where he and hannah where sleeping making it up to two franken. Hannah would be. That's no effort whatsoever. If you've been surveilling the area and keeping you know detailed notes on movements of people in this sort of thing. It wouldn't be a problem at all in order to facilitate that. The proximity of the homes most likely forced the killers to utilize some critical tools. Silencers we know from courtroom testimony that a homemade silencer was found at a property owned by the wagner's having silencers when these crime scenes are so close together. Seems like they would have to and it does sound as though from what. We've researched that frankie road in and his fiancee hannah gilly in their three year. Old son frankie's three year old son. They were sleeping at the time. Absolutely and the other thing is this is not something that you would do in the dark. You want to make sure. Because you're you're going there to specifically execute these people to kill them. You wanna make sure that you're going to shoot them so unless you you've got flashlights. In your hand which they bear will might have. You're gonna flip the switch soon as you walk through the door lights which is right there. The element of surprise allowed the killers to get with an intimate range of their victims was a gunshot wound. You don't think about that as being intimate but if you start scoring headshots particularly multiple headshots you know that there is kind of a close approximation of the perpetrator to the victim and that particular case so it tells a different tale and would gunshot wants to head particularly multiple ones. You want to think about well. Where are they shot in the head if it is an execution style to the back of the head. That's one thing that. I'm not saying that the person is being humane this doing it but they want it over with and done as quickly as possible when you start talking about shooting people in the face. This is something different particularly if it's multiple tops first off the individual has the potential to visualize you doing and you're visualizing them that brings it up to another level execution style means from the back of the head so you don't have make eye contact with your victim which makes sense classic interpretation of it like when i'm talking to somebody a fellow death investigator fellow friends excise person if i say it was an execution style shooting automatically for me. I would assume for most of my colleagues. We're gonna think okay. They're probably shot in the oxford. Which if you put your hand you know your fingers on the side of your head and you fill it big not the back of your skull. That's your oxford where you're sara bellum dwells where your promo brain dwells in there's mercy there's mercy in docs foot back there you know why there's mercy because if you fire into that area it's almost an instantaneous but if you start shooting people all over the body and you do it multiple toms and particularly if you approach and then shoot them in the face. There's no guarantee they're dead instantly. No no guarantee whatsoever. According to morgan the killers likely traveled a mile and a half up the road. Where victims dina. Chris junior and hannah road and lift. I can't imagine that dana hoses the same threat level. Say for instance as chris senior chris pretty robust county guy. Big guy worked outdoors with cars and whatnot. He's familiar with weapons. I would imagine he could pose a threat but this mother living in her trailer with her kids. What threat did she did. She pose is she. The focus of a tremendous amount of anger. Well when you combine the fact that they have committed overkill here with the sheeting her in her skull so many times and then they moved to shoot her in a manner in which could potentially disfigure her the seems to me almost a messaging that sent out in the people that are portrayed s purpose to them. We have the other hanna. And what kind of person could stand over a young woman and fire round into her face while staring at her. And her baby you're visualizing this. This is not something that's done in abstract. You're not a long long distance away. Your up close and personal and these rooms are there. You know it's. It's not the taj mahal here. I mean i. It's not rural tiny but they're pretty small You're gonna be on top of her when you're doing this. Jeff wondered how the brutal precision xtra by the killers could play into the prosecution's case. Does that come into play. They shoot another holding her baby twice in the head. does that make it worse than shooting her once. This is a prosecutors during. If you're talking about narrative right it takes so savagery on the part of an individual to do this. He look at chris. Junior who's in dwelling this place. He's hey shot is kind of nonspecific. We do know that that he was actually shot Multiple tom's in the head and he's sixteen year old kid. What what threat does does he pose. Well why would you take the life of the sixteen year old boy there. I don't. I don't understand that i think at the end of the day when we analyze all of these these shootings. There's thread. obviously. I've talked about about the overkill that the goes into all of this. But there's a a proximal issue here to that. That is that you're getting into the space of these victims. Then it's likely the killers targeted their last victim. Kenneth wrote in who is sleeping a trailer a few miles away on left fork road however kenneth crime scene was strikingly different from the other road victims. This is the end the big finale and they shoot this gun the i now you know. This idea that he shot in the ogden goes to another level of violence here literally. Did he see this coming at that. Moment top then to kind of you know. Put the icing on the cake. Mean you drop dollar bills around again. That goes to motive. You're you're trying to put the police on the sense that this is something other than what it appears i've worked cartel related homicides with the There's messaging that goes along with the sort of thing but again. Is that what they were going for. This is a different type of staging. You're not trying to mitigate the idea that it's something other than homicide still homicide you're trying to to the motivation behind outside to put them offset and that's a very very interesting narrative and you begin to think about it and your professional experience. Have you ever heard of a family that operates as a foursome to different locations in this manner. That's pretty uncommon. I would assume never a good working to major metropolitan areas as coroner medical tannin investigator. I've never encountered it. The syrup our bertie of the road and murders will be a critical part of the story but one element in particular will be crucial to convince the jury. Jeff joseph morgan about it. I'm just curious like how the prosecutors were gonna wanna talk about question of whether or not the victim for aware of their life was going to add end and how that might impact for jury going to be critical for the prosecutor to be able to the information that the investigators had developed in the field working these scenes in particular the time. These little markers and tom along the way how well were. They able to document the actions that took place within the environment. If they can get that information out into open court than they'll begin to talk about. I can envision closing statement in particular prosecutor. Stand up there and say they took their time. We have them document is being in this location. This particular time and use jury have to consider this. What were they saying. What were they doing while they were in there. Did these people know that they were about to die. And of course the prosecutor. It's their job to put this horrible. It is but the jury members in the place of the victims to help them understand. Because everybody's been in fear of their life the end of their life at some point. Tom so you have to make that almost. You can't do it but you wanna make it. It's almost tactile as you possibly can. So the people in the jury. They feel it stirring within their soul where they understand okay. These people were at a critical mass and they knew that it was about to happen. What would i do in that moment. Tom realized that malign was actually coming to an end. Let's stop here for another quick break. We'll be back in a moment in the land of diamonds. 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That's diamonds dot com. I think that even a trained assassin would find it foolhardy to go about trying to kill eight people on same evening covering this much territory there too many things. That can go wrong unless you have somebody watching your back. You're going to have to have a person that potentially the lookout transporter you're going to have to have somebody that can muscle control the intended victims. And then you have to have shooter. And ideally you would. In fact need somebody. That's doing overall coordination because this logistically. It's a daunting task. I think to say the very least you know in this particular case There are too many variables involved. But even after you klan perpetrators are not crime scene. Investigators they don't think like crops and investigators. They're so very rare most of the cases that that we work as investigators. There is a huge opportunity where these people to screw up long white to leave something behind that is a direct indicator of their involvement or presence When these deaths occurred and in this case what was left behind included three young children. According to morgan despaired lives go directly to the heart of the presiding motive of the case the singular driver behind us. It has to those those children Hold value the attachment to the children as the driver. When you get overkill in in my experience at least it goes to a lot of anger it goes to a lot of passion and you'll see it and domestics you go to all the trouble but yet easily these three babies alive and you have to you to kind of question this and it has an investigator down a specific direction who would attach value to the shoulder to see. Continue to live and still exists among the land of the living of their cam. When accused killers billy angela george wagner had to trial prosecutors will paint them as the main characters in a gruesome multi-layered horror story. Good prosecutors are great storytellers. That's their heartbeat. If they are affected they take all these little pieces of evidence. All the stuff we've been talking about. And they tighten that thing down and they walk into the courtroom and they start talking about mamas and they start talking about babies and they start talking about these familial ties and it will be powerful in court. It will be very powerful. And i can. I can almost see it now. Envisioning right now when he starts talking about this and you can that jury. They'll be a slow turn of their his toward the defendant's table. No matter who's on trial up particular. Tom as they will talk about mama and they will talk about those babies and they're gonna stare that individual town. They don't think who in the hills in the courtroom with us. Right now while we wait to see if billy angela and george wagner will head to trial there's one man intimately involved in the road murder case who has already seen his day in court. Tie county sheriff charles reader after the road murders. He became front and center of all of the coverage. She was giving information alongside the ohio. Attorney general at that time people were looking to him for information and they wanted reader along with the state of ohio to solve these murders from all of the coverage that went into pike county in the months after these murders. Charlie reader was a central figure in that but sheriff reader had a quick fall from grace in june twenty nineteen he was indicted on eight felonies and misdemeanors targes included theft in office and tampering with evidence that was huge news not only because of his involvement in the road murderers. But i mean you're talking about the shitting sheriff. The high sheriff. Pike county is now the subject of an investigation evidence of misconduct evidence of corruption by a politician. You're going man. I don't know what may act with this. on march. twenty four th twenty twenty one. Sheriff reader appeared in court to face. The charges leveled against him. Guilty verdict would have major consequences. If you're a defense attorney working on this case and the sheriff of the county gets indicted. I would think you know. If you're a wagner attorney you look to have a field day with that that might be part of your defense more on that next time for more information on the case and relevant photos. Follow us on instagram at kt underscore studios the peyton massacre. Returned by county is executive produced by stephanie. Lie decker and me. Courtney armstrong editing and sound design by executive producer. Jared aston additional producing by jeff. Shane andrew becker and chris graves the pike and massacre return to pay. County is a production of iheartradio. 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GameStop Fallout: Why Regulation Could Hurt Index Investing

Knowledge@Wharton

09:41 min | 7 months ago

GameStop Fallout: Why Regulation Could Hurt Index Investing

"This podcast is brought to you by the wharton school. At the university of pennsylvania there remain many questions in the wake of the shorting frenzy of game stop. Amc entertainment and other stocks by members of the reddit community and while not as traditional as other outlets robin hood really his provided an option not seen in the markets in decades past a recent opinion piece in barons looks at one side of this whole story. Indexing indexes have a bit of an expectation of aligning prices with future growth but there is also a potential impact on indexes. If the government now wants to cut back on the process of short-squeezing which is that process of batting against a stocks future success. David must finance professor at the wharton. School is one of the authors of the article along with his and colleague. Chris casey and a pleasure to have david join us right now. David thanks for your time. Hope you're doing well. Yeah great to be here thank you. I laid this out a little bit. But i'll let you capsulize. What you and chris road in this article. Okay great well. Thanks so in our article. We look at this whole game. Stop business through through the lens of one of the most famous papers economics with was written by george aker law. Who is the husband of janet yellen and he won the nobel prize for this paper. And it's the people that i studied in grad school and chris did and now our own students study the same paper. And it's a paper where Doctor achraf is looking at the market for used cars but People have taken his reasoning and apply to stocks. And what we show is. There are several ways that that it It helps us think about what happened with game. Stop in with indexing okay. So we got the index indexes and the point. We're making there. Is that if i just go. Trade in the stock market Myself i encounter transactions costs which are driven by The possibility of being informed trader. Right trade a stock people. Worry that i. I i have inside information and because of that There is a There's a spread. That i have to pay but not if i trade through index funds index funds bring down the cost of for retail investors. Like me to be in the market. Both because they don't charge very much and fees but also because they also themselves trade at very low fees low transactions costs because they don't have to pay the spreads that other people pay and so we invest in index funds more and more students invest in index funds. When i asked my class how many of my nba's how many of you are sending your retirement. Check your 401k to index funds. Practically everybody right. Everyone's indexing these days but then and and it's cheap for these reasons but then the problem is when you're indexing you just ending your money into stocks whatever price. They have be training for right now. Just hoping that people are doing the hard work other people are doing. The hard work of bringing those prices in line with With the with the prospects of those stocks right So you can sort of free ride on everyone else doing this. Hard work right But then once in a while you know the price you buy it Like with game. Stop just starts. New starts to skyrocket Out of control right and So that's what that's what we saw that you're sending your your paycheck into Into a small stock index and all of a sudden. You find yourself saying these crazy prices stock and so then. The question is whether Whether this whole episode Whether episode is is is an argument for the government stepping in and trying to suppress the kind of combat that led to. These prices are going crazy out of control. So the the concept of short-selling has been around for quite a long time But you kind of note that it's it's to a degree a bit of they benefit to the system that that there is this element of short-selling kind of involved in the in the entire process. Well yeah i mean if a price starts to drift to high out of out of line with with the fundamentals of the stock then people who buy it unwittingly at that price or paying too much and you are. I mean if you're shorts deal and you're not trying to make the world a better place you're just trying to make a profit but if by bringing that downward pressure on the stock you bring it back in line with its actual prospects than other people who are just blindly buying the stock whatever prices trading for are gonna benefit right. They're buying the price. Brian stock at a reasonable price. The only way to bring it back down to its to its to its true value of a starts. Drifting into high is to come in and and still And if you don't already own the stock the only way to do that. It's the shorts. So society benefits from these shortsellers bringing this downward pressure when gift too high though you know. That's not the goal of the short seller's you know to to benefit society but it's still We we we've benefit anyhow From bringing those bring those prices back in line so now you have robin hood kind of in this mix over the last few years and obviously it's your thoughts on the impact. That robin hood has had onto this entire process. Well robin hood is just. I would say the best known practitioner of gathering retail traders and Funneling those traders into the market and Because how do it's well known. It's been well known for many years that the average retail trade is uninformed uninformed by by what i mean dave. They're not predictive of the stock retail purchases. Do not predict stocks going up retail sales. Do not predict stocks. Going down So been that. Since they're uninformed and so if i am a trader making a market in stocks i would love to be on the other side of those traits though. Yeah the other side of the other side of the people who know what's happening next. I want to be on the other side of people. Who don't know what's happening next. I will pay to be on the other side and robin. That's been true for many years. robinhood just like focused on On this particular sector in in your ramping up that that business of gatherings retail trades selling the right to be on the other side and taking some of the proceeds from selling it and giving it back to traders in a form of zero emission. We're joined by david mazda finance professor at the wharton school. So you mentioned this. I this unique kind of Element that plays out here with the role that janet yellen may play here and the fact that her husband has written this paper that you and others have have really had a long look at The question is what the role of janet yellen will be and the government about this action around short-selling moving forward well this is something to You pay attention when you have the confirmation of the new ahead of the sec Gary gansler who's been nominated i think this is what this is what people will be talking about at at that hearing it certainly gonna come up What do we do about it. and you know. There's people look at retail traders who hurt themselves badly In this case and that's that's that's difficult to look at On the other hand you have The fact that we depend on people's self interested buying and selling To bring capital markets prices in line and So it's a tough. It's a tough line to walk there. what what do you do about If something you can do that restricts access of traders to put on the trains they wanna make And yet not damaged the the price discovery. That indexes who are more and more of us are depending on david. I'll landed near the top of the hour. Thanks very much for your insight. Greatly appreciated all the best. Look forward to talking to you down the road. Great nice talking to you bye. Thank you david moscow. Who is a finance professor at the wharton school as you mentioned the article That he and his Cohort chris. casey wrote was in a recent day edition of barons published on february fourteenth. It is title yellen game. Stop dilemma how to let indexes freeload in peace. You can go to the barons website and obviously take a look at it there. To keep engaged with morton business daily and other wharton school shows visit business radio dot wharton dot upenn dot edu.

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The Politics of Storm Response

The Point with Chris Cillizza

05:45 min | 2 years ago

The Politics of Storm Response

"Do you have the radio dot com app if you do you know you can get all your local and national news on it if you don't download it now. Take your favorite radio stations with you anywhere take c._n._n. H. l. n. and c._n._n. International with you it's all here in one place the radio dot com app local and national news and over ten thousand podcasts all free all at your fingertips download the app go to radio dot com on your computer or use it on your smart speaker the only app you need for your most important listening and the radio dot com app so much information so many twists and turns and there's only one app you need to keep you connected to the twenty twenty presidential election and everything going in on in national and your local news the radio dot com app one app hundreds of local radio stations. Thousands of podcasts even listen to c._n._n. 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There's a major precedent presidents putting all hands on deck to prepare for in monitor a major storm chris road all about it in the point sunday campaign newsletter because as with any major natural disaster that the country watches closely there there will be or at least could be political ramifications from hurricane dorian stemming from how president trump and the effected states handle it history is riddled with politicians who watched their careers disappear or badly damaged by botched reactions to major natural disasters hurricane katrina which left almost two thousand people dead was the spark that drove president george w bush's approval numbers into the thirties from which he never really recovered dc mayor marion berry's decision to remain in at the super bowl in california while the district got hit by more than two feet of snow is the stuff of legends and not the good kind same with john lindsay's reaction as mayor of new york city to a blizzard in nineteen sixty nine trump has never been much a student of history but he appears to know this stuff. The president cancelled the plan trip to poland over the weekend to monitor the storm and the plan state and federal reaction. When it makes landfall sometime early this week trump's public statements have been decidedly trumpian it began to form and form big. He said last friday of the storm but they have been frequent trump took a break from tweeting hurricane updates on sunday to attack actress debra messing until the ratings of the apprentice trump spent monday at his trump national golf course in sterling virginia and tweeted political grievances as the massive hurricane prepared to barrel roll up the east coast trump's visit to trump national marked the two hundred eighty nine th day he has spent at a trump property in the two hundred and twenty seventh day. He has spent at one of his golf clubs. As president trump did speak to florida governor rhonda santa's on monday to santa's a republican said in a news conference that trump is fully engaged with federal state and local officials and as the president spent a few hours playing golf at his course outside of washington he continued to be briefed hourly early on hurricane dorian according to the white house press secretary but early monday morning trump's attention was at least in part on other things he touted the economy on twitter he slammed rammed political foes including james komi and the four democratic congresswoman of color known as the squad and he is labor day to tweet an attack on the a._f._l. C._i._o. president richard trumka trumka writing that he likes what we are doing until the cameras come on which brings us to the point trump is tuned into storm developments but that doesn't mean he stopped focusing on other do things like his pet grievances and that is the point for september third twenty nineteen. 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Mac OS Ken: 07.03.2019

Mac OS Ken

14:33 min | 2 years ago

Mac OS Ken: 07.03.2019

"Here's max kellerman news end rumor around new hardware apple signs and amac is brave and things in common between memo g and me moji it twins day the third of july twenty nineteen i'm ken ray and this is news from meko west ken brought to you by your is truly an sponsored by squarespace your place online get ten percent off your first purchase of a website or domain with coupon code meko west ken at squarespace dot com slash meko west cat and the show is also supported by people like you patrons through patriotic find out more in that your support that patriotic dot com slash mecca west ken newsom new hardware and the hardware rumor will start with these seemingly sure thing i'm more says the federal communications commission has given apple approval from new macbook pro aj new mac book pro the piece points out the european economic commissioned recently approved seven new models the macbook so this is fewer the piece points out rumors have been circulating of a possible redesigned sixteen inch macbook pro decides not sure that this is that sleuthing by an eagle allied reddit user has i'm more thinking the new computer is eight thirteen inch macbook pro courting the report apple updated most of the macbook pros earlier this year complete with a new butterfly keyboard except the barium area without the touch bar putting it in line for a yearly update this new macbook pro could very well be that model all of this leaves the question what about the other six approved by b e c k i'm more figures will see the one spotted yesterday sometime this fall tenuous is the macbook pro story seems you will miss the shore footing it offered as we make our way through the next story the global times out of china says apple will launch a new i phone tailored for chinese consumers they base their story on media reports they've also got industry insiders tigers saying the move shows apples urgency of the stops sliding i phone sales in the middle kingdom that apple might wanna do something to juice sales in china is not far fetched but they're said to be doing though seems questionable quoting the report the new phone will reportedly remove face idee the facial recognition system for the phone and instead employing under display fingerprint function news site eight caging dot com dot c n reported citing sources on upstream industry supply chain an industry insider revealed that this is likely to save on costs i don't no this is one on which i would bet then again i'm not a betting man once twice three times the subject of investigation venture beat says ireland's data protection detection commissioner or dpc has opened the eighty third privacy investigation in the apple over the last few weeks a spokesman for the dpc indicates the probe is examining whether apple has complied with a relevant provisions visions of the e news new general data protection regulation or gdp are privacy law in relation to and access requests from a customer the peace says this third investigation follows one addressing how apple processes personal data for targeted advertising on its platform and another on whether it's privacy policy on the processing of that data is sufficiently transparent if found in violation it could be a big deal under gdp are the be says regulators could impose fines of up to four percent of the company's global revenue or twenty million euros twenty two million dollars whichever is higher it's almost funny the mentioned the twenty two million dollars since four percent of apples global revenue would be the bigger of the two news of a couple of blocks in apple hardware one temporary one less so on the temporary side apple insider says microsoft has blocked a recent windows ten update from max over a boot camp driver issue it'd be says owners of older max or those with out of date versions of boot camp are being blocked from updating windows ten version nineteen o three after informing people ebay mac how driver issue on their windows ten install the failing update says your pc see has a driver or service it isn't ready for this version of windows ten there's apparently no cause for alarm just need for patients their message goes on to say no action is needed windows update will offer this version of windows ten automatically once issue has been resolved mr softy says it's working to reach that resolution by the end of this month sending a more permanent goodbye is back to my mac i'm more says apple has shut down back to my mac for every version of the mac operating system launched in leopard in two thousand seven the peace says until monday the feature let users access their mac remotely all the features dad apple does suggest three alternatives users can access byles across multiple devices with i cloud dr lincoln access another mock using screen sharing and they manage their mac remotely using apple remote desktop i'm more says that last one is closest to the functionality lost with back to my max demise however the site warns it cost eighty bucks fox an apple doesn't updated that often more news in a moment but first a word from squarespace your place online earlier this week chris road and say how much he loves how great his squarespace site looks automatically across all sorts of devices that is not all he loves he writes about how awesome he thinks the squarespace e commerce system is saying i run the website for a community theater organization in southeast michigan for the last two years i've used squarespace is e commerce allusion to register kids per hour two week summer theater camp parents register and paper camp on our website hosted by squarespace it is super easy to create manage inventory end sales information with squarespace while i am tech savvy i don't have any real training in sales or marketing yet i'm able to manage more than one hundred transactions in my spare time i could not do this so easily without squarespace how cool is that chris was looking for a good site and ended up with sales support it sounds like was better than he expected how will squarespace surprise you go to squarespace dot com slash meko west ken for a free trial and when you're ready to launch your site used they offer code moco west can save ten percent off your first purchase of a website or domain that's offer code moco west ken at squarespace squarespace dot com slash mecca west ken and a big thanks to squarespace for sponsoring this week show while pride month may be officially officially over apples still pressing the case for equality apple insider says the cupertino company has joined over two hundred businesses calling on the supreme court the favor lgbt labor protections amazon comcast nbc universal e bay facebook google i b m microsoft bloomberg and a host of others about suicide and they amick as brief foot simply says the company's arguing doing the lgbt protections benefit both their businesses andy overall usa economy justices will have a decent amount of time they consider the brief scotus is currently out of session according to the report and will resume until october end finally today shower me is back the copying apple though i shouldn't say so because they might sue me if i do macrumors as word of a new show me phone on the way the cc nine that said they have a neat new feature me moji seriously though don't say the show me am i mean boji that's kind of copying apples m m e me moji even death as the piece points out these three d avatars appear and function very similar the apples me boji letting users create and design their own torso lists characters and send them through text the report continues shaami's avatars berry striking resemblance to they avatars customization options offered by apple down the similar hats and art styles on the i phone users concrete and customize their me moto g and then send them and videos or stickers in messages and it appears that shaami's me moji will act in a similar fashion the piece points out the personalized three d avatars have been around for a while seriously though practically the same accessories for practically the same big years what practically the same name these things happen seems to be shaami's response macrumors says in a show me press release lease translated via twitter user the company refutes claims that memo g is a clone of apples me mo g we have conducted in journal audits and found no evidence is that our main boji characters have been plagiarize from any of our competitors editors including apple so you looked at what you did and decided that you didn't do anything wrong thank goodness you were here funny thing though kind of sounds like show me maybe right let me stress the words kind of end may be another piece on de me me mo gms from venture beat lays out a somewhat convoluted timeline line apple introduced an emo g for i phone ten in september of twenty seventeen in may of twenty eighteen show me added me mang to its phones brits weird animated animals those sort of similar the anna moji show me you see am i mean moji term on english packaging in june of twenty eight teen apple announced am emoji the customizable animated did human heads in september of twenty eight teen apple released me moji incompatible i phones and i o s twelve and this week show me is releasing it's customizable animated human heads under thee am i mean boji branding so it may not be precisely as bad as it looks despite precisely how bad it looks we should probably stop talking about it now those and venture beat says the chinese companies getting a bit testy over the whole thing according to the peace show me is apparently threatening legal action against writers who call it a copycat without providing proof so a listen maybe we keep this just between you and me a macro west ken brought to you by me ten sponsored by squarespace get ten percent off your first purchase of a website or domain with coupon code moco west ken at squarespace dot com slash meko west 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Adjust the Mic Episode #75 Pasta Fagioli

Adjust the Mic Podcast

45:28 min | 11 months ago

Adjust the Mic Episode #75 Pasta Fagioli

"So are you just gonna ask me questions. I can answer it. And then we'll go from there and you can edit out anything that makes me look stupid or if i say something really messed up. That needs to be gone. A song bahamas to people who feel fine baggies up the clothesline want to restore big back on the night before. Then i did having house. Why not exactly facing lam involved. No the show all or i episode number seventy five of the just the mic to my right the hostess with the most s. Mr scott elo governor. Oh man that was a good one for a week. Now and nice No crappier queen. No viking metal chris yet just to. They're all working hard and stuff going on. Yeah stuff going on. It's been a it's been a week it has me. I'm like it. Feels like yeah. It feels like the week should already be over. Do you notice like when we were court. Saturday mornings hell like pepe. We are and it's wednesday and we're starting to show. We spent a week into wednesday wednesday due to. This is hard work talking. You know. we're just talking before we started this episode and Shout my kids got straight a.'s. Rally got as bs rewards. So the kids are doing great so they. I told them today. I was like this weekend. Like we're gonna go to your favorite play you guys together. Pick a place that you wanna go. And i'm thinking you know who go like longhorn or they don't all they want for it. Okay so i had to talk about subway. Subway like you go anywhere in the world subway. Mcgee would have been that simple as well they were they would have panics breath and i know it's because of the cookies i get it. They're good subway. Cookies are really good but some way but then they're like olive garden. It's hard to get into agree on the same place. Kids love olive garden in olive garden is a winner. The bread officers a winner allah cheese biscuit steed. Yeah we started with food because we're hungary well it's just it's funny. How how kids think what good food is. While i wanna go with you. Yeah come with this man And i'm not a mod saying olive garden's terrible but this like it's put you know what i'm saying. It's like a mcdonald's fast. Yeah it's a fast food. It's a step up really excited for the angie. The andes meant at the end. My favorite part is the pasta. As oh i get the super scotto. the pasu. this is very kentucky. I i get the potato and own sausages potato soup. The zubaydah scott. I don't know if pronouncing india nilo household with my grandmother. Oh yeah you'll for. That was before we had. You know we'd have a salad some pasta jewel and we'd have spaghetti. I just want you to say that all that's by pasta. I don't like it. I don't like is the only may be good at an. So that's what you're gonna get when you go plus as we say it to the server like that put your fingers out like an italian girl with for long time how i say i do it. I look at eggo pastas you. Mike got that she liked the underhand. Hushing pastas you do that. Which we video. It's just funny. What kids think. Great food is subway. It all gordon. How was your weekend dude. Halloween was great. Halloween was great man. How fantastic you came up your hopper hopper hopper. I told you wear the shirt tonight sir. I put nice shirt. I really like. How did you feel that you wear all night. You like it you gotta keep it going to be a part of the week lee potential. You're probably it's. It's a nicer. I me watch stranger things you know hopper and you know his party. Sure right yeah. It's it's a season three shirt. Yeah we had a good time in the trigger. Trading was really awesome. It was really cool to see the kids after how this year's been just have a little bit of normalcy in their life like they it was awesome in gotta say my favorite part Was we went to the christmas house hearing your neighborhood. And he had all his lights. That whole huge stream of light and it was like american flag in is just. It was beautiful. And they're so awesome like bad ass so good man whenever our guests from last night. show Your dad and everybody and andy and the kids. It was taba and zealand dude. They were gr like that was a great show having them on. That's where i sent them on the way out of. Should you gotta go by the christmas house. For y'all leave you have to check collector. You could see the lights were on. Yeah it was awesome and It was pretty cool. Man was thank you for having your lights up. Every year we love get real nice and he loved it. It was just really weak. It was a. It was a good halloween man. There really was a drink. A lot shots table nachos cova taste of data. Kobe table nachos were really good. It was a shoutout to offer blast larkin and holly in them for kill all day. But you have really just you kid a may. Why are you. I go outside mosquitoes. It's november. there's no mosquitos. Mosquitos is there. I was getting worked out there. Fine ski too. But yeah shout out to holly and larkin and derek man dared route that brisket do good what. Hey that like was really good brisket and you know what i loved about. Is you get that heat on the end of it. Yeah like it takes a couple of seconds like that's got a master stuff like that man he he he actually at one thing that derek does very well. Is he He researches like prepares me and prepares meets. He does a good job with man he has a really good taco soup date of shout out the taco soup. His mother is the best cook. That's why larkin so good young man like she's best cook that i know it was really great. So thank you guys for Doing all that food man as awesome killed and yeah kids made out like bandits tana candy. There's a lot of people in the neighborhood there was. I didn't see much drama. There was a couple of little instances. I guess we had someone. Yellen trump or something. Outside at chris road ever. Yeah but other than that Everything seemed to go without a hitch. I guess there were some vandals later on that night. Really like punk rock band the vandals they're available some kind of angels you. Did you hear that was like handle. Yeah i thought you meant the puck. Rock punk like some kind of vandals like some kids. Probably just throwing egg the halloween. But there's album she. We had the faith. There's the facebook group sherwood this niches. And that's where all the drama goes will. There is actually a a few swastika stickers. Be input on what on people's Vases and on in certain areas around the neighborhood serious -posedly someone has cameron and turned it in to the police department but Gas some weird kind of stuff like that's been going on man pieces shit you know you. Don't think about that this neighborhood. It's not you know. Think about that anywhere man anywhere. You're right you're one hundred percent right one hundred hundred we get about five of. We're one in. We'll see where we on that so so the weekend was good the night before i went to cocoa village that germer shout out to on tori twenty third birthday. Happy birthday tori happy birthday tour and randy english randy. Heavy berta old. He's the pant plant collector man. He does variegated plants in its. He's a freak about. It was shot out randy english. Happy birthday buddy him but yeah had a good weekend really good. You went to a show know. We went to that german restaurant. Oh the kind of a show man. There was a guy. There all germany's the place out in sanford. Nope cocoa village again. Oh there it is. I don't heidelberg's okay. Right good tom. No okay you're you're you're in coca villager. Talking downstream said google village four times. I'm sorry beach but we had a blast man. I had a good weekend. We had a great weekend. You do anything else. Besides the Halloween sunday were you in pain. You drink sunday was a rough day. It was great because it was kind of cool out. Let's beautiful friday one on the back porch watchful all nice and cleaned up. Wouldn't fish lips or bishop. It was beautiful out. Man it travis. Been there awhile. It was good. It was getting a lot of people or not not a ton but we got right into sat when you know. But it wasn't crazy travis. My brother facetime me. From the browns raiders. Game on night it was forty two mile per hour winds and snowing because every there's only a few thousand people in the stands suite. They had they had a sweet. So it was kind of like indoor outdoor. They they had. They had a pretty good. It was snowing a little bit. Yes no one about forty two mph winds of your kid's been in snow now mine either. Yeah it's happening it's going to happen. Yeah i told myself this year. I'm going to have to go see snow this year. Man i told my kids if snow was close enough that we would just drive when weekends on. You want to. Yeah just you and me just my two dads now. We're bringing the kids. We had kids me right. Yeah maybe we can like maybe tool. We like doing outside concert somewhere whatever. It is our year anniversary. Me and joe's romantic vacation to savannah nashville when he stole the gumbo machine. But no no no no let me change that. He borrowed it and return it the next morning. Okay how about that okay. Did he feel bad morning. That'll no now. We had to bring assad because there's so many bears over there by our buddy's house with the gumbo she attracted bear so he had to bring in now. It was a really good vacation is a good little little trip. I gotta get within this weekend. Kim went we're on it. are you wanna text. i'm gonna text read with these dudes man and it's these dudes me chad ben. Ross joe loca. It's bad it's like how bad all day and night now we use star hopping about six o'clock by five thirty random russell get random at three. Am text or something russ keeps us up to date on all the codes. I know john elway has it. I know matthew stafford has it like he's a covid guy okay so so. Everybody plays the role of this community of this texting community. Now we go outside the box. It's bad and like it's bad stomach over the line. Like if you guys ever ran for political office with this affect your Some of some of us would have my nation. Syllabus would have a little bit of an issue man oh man that's funny yeah. I'm sure other people do that though. Just just be in a group text books with dare. Okay that's that big thing came from all the time but way before him like as soon as he's not on any social media he doesn't have any accounts on any social media rarely but somehow through just random tex with his group of friends. He obtains some of the the craziest material. Where's he did. I don't know man. It's it's a whole. He's got a network like he might have his own facebook network outside of facebook. No it's amazing. He don't open any text gift from derek. Don't we'll regret every single text. Okay oh real quick before. We'll be like a nickel on the ground. You know that you have to you have to like zoom up into it's a penis or something. Yeah he sounded he just is a troll in texas real quick before i forget Out to frank. Rob who had a bit shorter had surgery. This morning came out of it. Pretty good you know. He's doing good He posted on facebook. So shot frank. Man shot offering freeman He's got. He's got a journey speedy recovery. And keep on truckin. You're doing them in my garage. My garage that tom and dan i listened to the tommy. Dan episode how they went a little hard on them. It was good though. Were a little hard. But but like you could hear samantha was like dude. He's like the nicest guy because he is. He really is. Yeah it's it's not a front. It's not an act. Just who he is. Dan was about to go in onto the garage in any kind of softened it out. I'm not gonna go. i can't do. It was pretty cool man here in them hearing him plug the mike and dan lewis daniel. Dennis i've been listening to that. Do you sense. I think he was on the drew. Grabo show the set seven to eleven show like ninety nine. And i remember he would always talk about like no effects and penny wise. I was like oh my god somebody up because you didn't hear it action. You became a nature fan because that was the intro to gargle mel. And all that. But the whole the intro you know was like my favorite. That's why with our intro. I i think of the way they do they did. Did you garoppolo intra. That's my inspiration. Okay for any kind of kind of thing that i do because it was so good in nature. Kids did it in the humpty. You know the play the hump song. I followed him when he left when drew raba when that seven seven to eleven or something like that. I follow daniel when he went to the monster. I think he did. He go somewhere else for the monsters. I think it was subway. He didn't really use like me i. I'm outta radio. Russ kind of you know. Came and talked to him the monsters in the morning or the most in the mid day. Yeah and then all that man and then some drama happen later on that too were that's why he's has his own podcast on. I don't know about that. I just know that tomorrow in the longer. I've been listening for a long time. Best thing that's ever happened to those guys. You think Because you know with. Tom hamas marketing. He's great man. He's he's he hustles like he's hilarious. They kill they bring their during inspiration. They really are. Yeah yeah definitely definitely definitely huge. Do this area. It's amazing really. It's it's really the community when you can do. A tom and dan like your year in and year out your year in europe. Full five hundred. People wish doing adjust the mic bicycle. Ride around the around the neighborhood. Tola like seven of us off car rides We like our one guess who needs to our neighborhoods looking curry's neighbor whatever. We're gonna ride down four streets. Get some eggs over here. Back on turpentine. Yeah edge and it's like it's a little box out. Yeah it's totally. The come from their farm really put it out there and then you got to bring the the comeback two thousand twenty three books. Two thousand and twenty six bikes box aches passport needed. We'll get you set it up. Yeah man so. I kind of calling chris. It's kind of weird right. Like is the launch tonight or tomorrow get scrubbed all the time. I don't know. I can't keep try and i haven't even talked to him you know he's told us let's quiz ourselves. He's told he told me last night. The whole run of launches that are coming up and he told you last time. Spit so quick. I'm like hey what's this cr. L. seven seven seven nine four three. What's the what's the launch tonight. Right now you know. Now it's name you know anything about how do people keep up there so many of show many letters and it's happened there's launches like every week and Yeah well it's his job man. Awesome amazing too. Yeah he's pretty good man but they're humble man. They're working roared right now. And i know colleen has the hardware store anniversary next weekend though. Yep next friday the thirteenth dude. Hot pinks plan at pier to twenty okay. They just played for halloween two and they're playing friday thirty. I heard about that okay. Oh we safe we go there a mask or we do i Hey that's starting to be a thing. I'm seeing more and more people not wearing masks. When i voted yesterday i noticed that probably fifty fifty. It's more fitting new know i. I wear masks man just to do to do it out of respect and i understand that it helps. I'm not going to get. I'm not arguing was on but more than anything for me. It's i'm not don't fear. Don't fear catching it. Because i just feel like everybody's gonna to get it you know i mean we're all gonna get well. I like to get a little bit further down the line when we could see what examined it really does the people for in its variant to different people in different degrees. And it's would be nice to know what those degrees are. Yeah you know and what we can do to prevent them i have. I have made a conscious effort to Make sure my immune systems right man. Light is the zinc d. I do a multivitamin in extra vitamin d in just exercising outside get outside. Which is the perfect time of year for it because it's beautiful while we'll start hitting play linda more on the weekends. Yeah we should go fishing. And i being a buddy mike. We used to go out there on the weekends. When he first moved down here from canada and every weekend we go out there and fish and had a blast man. We'd be out there. Usually on a sunday saturday or sunday would pick one morning during the wintertime and catch all kinds of pompey no widen nice. Man it's nice also. I gotta do that man. I don. I don't really surf ish natural vitamin d. Were there yet is. I haven't checked. The weather might rain this weekend though. It's kind of fun out there with training like my cup. I like your cup thinking it's christmas time. Now i'm gonna pull okay my garage. Oh my garage my garage. I have christmas stuff in there so this weekend. I'm going to pull it or doing the same thing. We're doing the same thing. we're going get it all. I still got my halloween stuff. I hear that tomorrow. Probably in the neighborhood that i'm in this year i have like if i was going to great michelle from f. F setup right now. I don't have great things but it comes with time. So i need to figure out my first step for this year of shed the light for this neighbor. You know the neighborhood just to your your lights. Just do your lights and get one big blow. Do you have enough lights for the house. Probably not probably. I need to get new initiates what i'm decided. 'cause i haven't measure everything measure of the thing that that does the show on the whole house and all that stuff okay. Measure measure your little skimpy. Now right yes. If you just do that in this neighborhood you are like you're laughing but this name saying i'm i'm i'm seriously intimidated. Because i'm not a planning setup. Okay well line. You're on your roof already. The people that used to live in this house used to go hard as hell. Everybody's telling me. This house used to be one of the top house. While you got now. I know do because i have the spirit but i don't have the money or the or the just the the ambition of now like despite all that stuff in start it. You're gonna i i wanna get like a crazy gone the roof. I want to get a crazy guy like like santa. that's kind of like hanging on the roof for. I want to get like a bunch of reindeer and a slick. I that kind of roof talking like the old school decorations or the blow up old school. Ya like the old school ones in in our neighborhood. For halloween i noticed there was like sisolak. Carriages with skeleton. Yes go ratings. Like like real deal d. Do icicle lights are you. Are you just do like a straight solid color multicolored. She tried to solid color. Alight multi and now what. I've done multi done a little bit of both but more than anything. I've done like basic lights like on the bushes. Okay now i've got a few blowups in one of my thing. I had to throw away this year. 'cause all i don abominable snowman man but it's worth it but i need to figure that out it's worth at christmas is coming asking the tree or do you do a fake. I'm doing a real tree. We're going to the christmas tree farm. This is what i usually do. Yeah the fake ones. Go to the and we're going to christmas fun to afterwards Off plus you can't you just. It's hard to replicate that smell man. The needle in the house sucks. It sucks. man gets everywhere for months afterwards. I kneel in may find him on tile. It's worth it excited for christmas this year. Man me to kick this year in the acid. Anyone brings us this year. Fucking sue goodyear. It was bad it was bad. Were in the end of the world. But it's like it's good to struggle bro. It's good to struggle. This podcast helps a lot. It helps the people around you and we're getting some and we met some great people. Yeah definitely been blessed with that. There's been a lot of opportunities to talk to on the show and it's hard to decide the we do what we don't do shit talk into still still talking to stelle about The water issues and everything affected my vote yesterday. Doria on it. That's too but haven't still on the podcast. Made me like really think about a couple things about that. You know so yeah. We've been very blessed some awesome people. You're right it's a. It's been really a really a cool thing. I wish a lot last night. I wish you here last night in those. Listen to these kids these kids. they like they surf. They've been like just skied into waves really and allies age. They're ap's now and niece kids are sent up and they're so excited to be an podcast. You ask him about injuries go. Yeah and there's been a couple of like scares and a couple of things and they were awesome. They were such good gas. Well that's awesome and their dad like he's a surf coachman yeah so he gets to coach his kids and then also his buddy andy's kids and they all are professional. They all do all the turn. All the surf a competitions and everything. Yeah and they travel and they do all the things together and don't get twist that is a local legend. We're he's a little farmer. That was the term. The year already has the website up to five palmer dot com. So just chill and man just a helping nice person. He and he's a hallways. He's always been that way when we were coming up in Doing the indian thing and going all the shows and everything we were all hanging out with indium. Sad was always older. You know you look up to do men and he was always just a humble. Good deed always made time for yourself. Exactly shout out that for that. Yeah we got the reminiscent. Would've make fun of me. Yeah we reminisced about print t shirts for a minute and then there was a i went down a rabbit hole. Won't i wanna make fun of myself and you had nobody to pull you out. You spell bro. Because i is too nice. I felt it. I felt the whole going. Here's what it was is that we're talking about all the different stuff in the setup here jonah said to have live music on and trying to set. Maybe some bad astrum circles back in the day. Yeah and be able to do something this kind of a cool way here. So i'm like oh. We got the ukulele up there. We got the czars others. I played viola and then i said and i'm really good or i was good back then like i was i chair so then started drag these people about for middle school. And as i'm talking on listening to charlie's eight shut the fuck up your energy here in your inner charlie had to fix. I didn't know where else to go with it. And everybody's looking at me. So i just kept doing it and it was funny. Good man it was great because they were so supportive of the conversation. They were a lot better because because they're nice they were nice when you hear a come off the break though. Oh i you haven't heard that part of at you hear that low pressure song trust me. It's really funny. Gosh what's up man. A did we want to try to get into episode this weekend. I'm down okay. i'm totally down. You have the kids i do. So why do or jeddah saturday morning. Not too early because want like wa- sleep in okay. What about sunday or one day. We need to go to the beach. Okay we'll figure it and we we'll right. Yeah we gotta go gotta take the kids like right tack. No no no break. Yeah why you wanna take a break. Just said pasta jewel and it was kind of like a segue no segue. We've only been. We've been doing five been around mattress director veto. Yeah you know what. Let's take pasta. Hello hello this. Is the chinese buffet. Calling time you come in you eat way too much. Okay you'll knocking allowed back. And they mall okay. I got you'll number from your credit card info. Okay not homeless shelter this restaurant. You eat all expense food. You and all that crap laird. No i didn't have any bad legs. That's a restaurant you'll take so much older not even eat all. I throw alto plates when i leave your table. I am tracking grove customer talking. Yeah oh my goodness okay. Okay you come back you. Bang bang band. What your prey. Dial dot com dial at unit. Yeah yeah. I wanna know who the right. Now let me ask you why. You're on my girlfriend in the middle of the night. What are you talking about. Boy you kill you off. What are you talking about. Don't deny looking boy. You better kill. Be the truth right. Now listen motherfucker. You got me mixed up with somebody else. Let me tell you right now. I'm talking about and you're you're you talking about. Oh talking you've been knowing on. Don't doubt below. Yeah i wanna know who did right now. Why let me ask you. Why are you calling my girlfriend. I don. I don't call no girls in the middle of the night you got a number you kill me. You all. don't deny boy. You better tell me the truth right now. I'm gonna call the police because you're harassing me. I had not all your life. You ingrid right now you'll be fustrated. Call it anybody how long this been going on between you and her i mean she is. Oh oh oh i'm single. Uv knowing what's going on no doubt somebody gave you the wrong number. Buck we i. Haven't you're making the state buddy and we're back so what's going to happen with the patriots man. Listen last year in this year. I haven't watched a lot of football man. I've watched more this year than i've watched in the last five years. I haven't lost a lot. I don't know why. I think it's just so much going on. I just oh. I'm not. I don't i listen. It's really really really hard for me to miss a fight night for usc. I absolutely love it And it's just like if football's on i'll watch it but it's even when the patriots out the gate and everything with cam and he looked great. Everything like ooh. I wanna cheer for brady. You know what. whatever. Brady's got a bronx coming around. I did see that. He's count around. he's i think he's getting his Football shape finally. Yeah out of the system. Yeah temporarily it's going to be an interesting year. All go on record. And i will pick kansas city seattle okay. I don't believe in pittsburgh. I think they'll be there at the end. But i don't think they'll be there. May maybe the championship afc championship. I'll go casey seattle tampa. Yeah you're going with the bucks. It's hard to betty as tom. Brady man for me especially your watching. They look good. I think the offense. I think ronald jones is good. I think he's solid four net. You're so you got the bucks. Yeah i don't know man you gotta go somewhere. He's looking good tennessee. I think tendencies a contender there. I think they can play I really like baltimore. Defenses roy solid. I think has been down here. He is apparently last year though. He hasn't been there but they're still kind of winning games. They're still they are. They just lost pretty tough. I mean pittsburgh good. I just hard to go against pittsburgh to battle. I mean they're just ralph's birmingham rings. You have to. Yeah oh did you to lauren. Do we talk about is spoiler it. Yeah we're talking about okay in spoiler and two one min. What's your favorite part. I really really like the crate. Dragon seem like okay. I love it man when they blow it up awesome but the very last part of course when you. It's revealed who's watching is unbelievable. 'cause it's been talked about. Everybody knows who it is right. Twenty five thirty years now it would did die in the and like yes we got our answer. Gotta be him right. I think asked me tim me. The old i mean. That's the that's the exact tim. The elephant is one of my favorite. Killed it yeah he killed. He's justified one of my favorite shows. And seeing him brightened. My day. I was like i was so excited to watch mandalorian than a see him adds to that western gunslinger vibe. That john favors shauna do man. That was my favorite part of. It is when he sitting in there and he's got the armor and they're having the negoti starting to look like han solo thing could do it in front of kids like little and i'm like oh shit. I liked that a child had nothing to do with rescuing he leave him in the side and wait for a big moment. Don't do it every episode. Let him chill and build up to it hundred percent no but it was a great episode. The kids haven't seen it yet in. That's probably what we're gonna do gonna do it tonight. And then because. I don't think alex yeah. We're gonna do a saturday night the saturday night or sunday evening for dinner we're gonna watch both episodes. He'll be two jobs right friday so much. Both up in maine learned was it's so good. It's a big. I watched all the star wars. But i didn't watch him. All the time. And i didn't i didn't hurt out with star wars. Well some people go down like like ralph man. Morale he goes down the well. He's all the books timothy zahn. He he knows the the whole expanded universe. Yes i never got into that. I did just the movies. Yeah and star wars holiday special. When i was the old movies are fantastic. I didn't like the the third. The episode phantom menace sears. I liked him. I liked him more than the new one. If i went back and watched it again have it. Maybe i would know with some of the dialogue really cheesy. But they're good elson is in hama those and yeah. You're mcgregor man. He's just he's good he's also is But this mandalorian above and beyond. It's it's unbelievable. Yeah it's one of those shows. And i was talking about this with somebody's even if you don't like star wars never seen this you're going to love the show. You can just pick right up and go in but then somebody like that knows a lot of the stuff like ralph is gonna have all these east especially expanded university of all these killer easter eggs in it. What did you think about the reveal of who the mandalorian is you get to see his face eventually. The actor i liked it. I liked it only did i second team they did. Did you try to predict to. It was at any point now. Already knew who was. Yeah already knew who it was. I didn't know until he got his face. Smashed by the mountain and game of thrones. Oh yeah exactly the same sent. You brought him as an actor really good. Yeah and he's killing killing it. Yeah they're just doing a great job with the series man. I they keep it up. They really rescued. Saw wars from what In the kiln it. Yeah alone day. Phony off ever. They do a great job man so that we got that You watch the boys right. I got like. I'm in the middle of the second season. So don't bring anything up. Because i gotta wash last couple episodes. That show is on believable. Like you think like certain shows okay. Listen game of thrones like the red wedding pushed the envelope. Oh yeah and like a pretty hardcore. There's certain moments put the boys is there. It's filled with moments like that every episode. You got something it's insane. It's so good if you get a chance and you have not seen the boys. It's comic book. Value coming skyrocket. Because how good it is okay. So those parts are in the congress white it. I don't know how closely it's written between road. Ups ben. the season was pretty close. There's no then it's like. Do they rate comic books waiting. It's an adult -arily and it's not marvel. It's for it than the brand. It's the brand in saint tv or value though was like bookstore you buy for buck apiece. Maybe five bucks for the first one issue now. The first issues like two hundred bucks. That's a crazy show just skyrocketing. It's crazy show. It's a it was one of those shows where i was told by several people you have to announce like no. I'm not doing it. Just because people tell me and then i watched i was like okay. Joe miller i yeah man. Yeah i do that a lot. I that breaking bad and regretted it so dan stands finally. He's like almost halfway through now. Isn't mazing show great. Yeah so watch the boys when when a girl who doesn't like superhero movies can't stop watching the boys. You know it's washing. It's not about the superheroes no at. It's the soups. It's more for me. It's a the butcher amazing. The butcher to me is amazing. He's my favorite character on the show. He's the best character on the show. Yeah it's it's it's a great tv show. Yeah and then fix over here bj. He's got me in the in the the boys group and it's all these people posted memes that they've made the pretty pretty good all your bj's bj social media games pretty strong. And i wish we could've seen him when she lamp lighter yet. Lamp lighter lamp lighter That that's episode. Amman okay. That's episode on. Did you already she though the whole episode. I think no okay. Yeah i think no. I don't think so but it's really good. Good men or they at the hospital. Yeah and they breaking out. Yeah he's a little later he's frigging kill them and then the girl yes whoo heads science crazy show and head their pop. That's one of the. That's one of the facebook group topics. What do you think's going to happen. A next season in unlike the others heads are about to be popping into this whole thing. It's so funny. So colleen I guess we should plug this university thing hardware store. We don't know what's going on. I guess they're going to have some giveaways some discounts. Okay some What the shared in the summer and make sure she yes. Some craft beer reviews prepared now. Not even we don't even have any so. That's an next saturday right though Fourteenth november if it'd probably be packed down there probably the thirteenth hot pink spine pure twenty. He ever get a chance to see them. They are unreal unbelievable great musicians great talent and a that's it and we will do some fishing this weekend. Yeah made all do olive garden. And that's all that's all man me too. I'm tired. i'm tired too early tonight as to show two nights and just got my kids back tonight. Ninety one to hang out with them due. I'll never say no. That's here at my house. I know i'm not dealing here. Talk for a little bit and you guys leaving know. Probably won't at this get it up tonight apart tomorrow night. It's going to be lazy. Be lazy shout out to the beautiful weather man. We'll see you did say that in you. I mean you're going to be lazy. Ferret out thad would have done that or i have done now. And they're good guys calling have been meeting cornell just like that only they get a vehicle yet. Hundred fighters craft beer playland soyuz math calculus space shuttles one fifty seven launching. Tomorrow skin. chris. I love you. Thank you for helping me with candy. The other night chicken all of the other kids in the neighborhood. Yeah he was he was wrong and he was like a slow pitch in it though. He wasn't like fast he was over handing it to andrea and me holly phase candy bar shut up a pin to chop screaming from data alone. Lanston to job screen topper saw tonight That's just killer. Do that was awesome.

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Return To The Early Shift

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Return To The Early Shift

"I stood there in that hallway were that pull the blood was where her office was whoever did this new this facility in new at well ahead turning new twist in the crime that stumped everyone from the start seven years were seeking justice for michelle fern almost seven years a mom of two murdered at war flood a lot of trauma their prime marks on her off the store wasn't that almost anybody would want that's the mystery tonight a case blown apart when a secret relationship is revealed i don't get a chance to explain it you're not patrolling it anymore exposing hidden bombshell evidence east on the property where a woman is murder and we don't know yet everybody on social media was like that's the guy that did it who was in prison the real killer or the wrong man we still have murder out there you never know how something's gonna go a mother murdered a family blink shattered would there be justice i'm lester holt dan this is dateline here's josh mike which will return to leave early show a they call it be early shift for a reason it was still an hour before dawn in this small town in northern kentucky in a few hours a local warehouse will become an anti l of activity and the first employees of the morning arrived a who among them could predict the before the first coffee break that day one of their co workers would be dead i just walked in our office i think somebody killed somebody upstairs in her office okay what makes you think somebody else somebody is laying there underground and there's blood all over impossible to believe in this tight knit workplace where everyone knows everyone there was michelle mockby forty two wife and mother face down in a pool of blood investigation that followed with peel off an entire company take a hard look at every employee was there that morning you know the suspect is one of those people in the building attract probing for clues in the victims private life that detective asked me if there was any trouble in their marriage eliminating suspect after suspect until there wasn't one man just when it seemed to be over it wasn't did you have a sexual relationship bitter denying that things in your business a scandal which scramble everything and you're not controlling this anymore you know i love attorney guys here they say the wheels of justice turn slowly in this case the wheels came completely off leaving a family wondering who would do the right thing kind loving woman has never came oh if you give michelle mockby siblings a chance chance to tell you about their sister they can't say enough good things about her shoes are big sister a role model michelle was just the most amazing sister then you could ever ask for a very loving caring tearing giving person she would do anything for anyone had a big smile and her laughter contagious show carried her positive spirit into the workplace she was head of payroll at that warehouse owned by thermo fisher scientific a worldwide supplier of laboratory equipment was also where she met her husband dan mockby she like well either michelle is funny funny attractive intelligent there is a vibrant and i said to her i mean she's beautiful it was that a thermal fisher christmas party back in nineteen ninety nine the damn first some of the courage to share his feelings with her you've been thinking about michelle oh absolutely yes the shelter stick with him that night and she did and then everything went sideways and it was the worst date in the world or i don't know i was totally off my game i couldn't speak but then after out again she said yes and maybe you did something right i must have i dunno michelle and dan married in two thousand one and continue to work together up thermo fisher loan after came two daughters madeline carly i remember she pretty much just be nice to people so it's like you know maybe nice people issues knows yeah she was she really like playing games at us in her backyard and take us all these fun places yes it's a five percent of their but even as busy parents dannon michelle always planned a date night every other monday memorial day two thousand twelve was no exception however she that night happy absolutely normal mhm during the next morning show got up to go thermo fisher fairly early morning shift then had the day off that stayed home she wakes me up kiss me goodbye says i love you and went to work those losses or last us however at five fifty three pm a security camera captured michelle's car as it arrived at the parking lot she stopped by the warehouse this time clock intended upstairs to her office about an hour later a supervisor named ed yes get noticed a big screen only upstairs hallway carpet he started looking around the area with help from a co worker the janitor david dooley ed when it's out on the bethany just part of the ways in i was holding the door and there's just a he said there's a dead body lane there will do it i just saw from then he's down and see the whole thing but honestly i'm glad i didn't look because i never been around anything like that kind of frightening from someone inside thermo fisher had killed michelle mockby put who hand justice puzzling why when we come back and said anybody would want that's the mystery the hunt for a killer begin with each person i talked to there's no evidence of damon involved in anything so if it's one of these people were interviewing disguised as well there and it was horrible bloody scene michelle mockby battered body was on the floor of the mezzanine at the thermo fisher warehouse plastic bag overhead when boone county sheriff's detectives bruce mcvay they at everett stall arrived at the warehouse they saw the blood stains on the hallway carpet included michelle had been dragged around the corner from her office office itself was the lie but there were fresh prime marks on the door look like in attempted break in rules in that on is that anybody would want that's the mystery while the detectives were trying to make sense of the crime scene michelle's husband dan stalled home co workers had started reaching out to him but all they told it was there had been some kind of incident at the warehouse and that's when i started getting nervous dan rushed to the warehouse to detectives he might have been the victims loving husband or the perpetrator of an incredibly violent crime right now they didn't know much after he was a scored it inside then took me initiative with detective stall and i looked at him and and excuse me officer my my wife works here i really need it now the cheese all right and that's when he told me that she deceased his reaction was pretty excruciating watch which i still had the press on and i still had to move for with my looking at him as a possible suspect one police ask you where you were at the time your wife was killed i was doing what most people are known at six o'clock in the morning if they don't have to get good work now sleeping it's not a very alibi but only when i had detectives asked in the good of the sheriff's station to take a lie detector test you agreed to take the polygraph guessing that was scary thing because if it goes wrong all of a sudden there's a case against you right there the nerve wracking but damn passed a polygraph in for detectives that wasn't enough apparently this time the husband didn't do it with damn clear detectives decided to focus on everyone who was at the warehouse that morning turned out thirteen employees working their regular shift when the show is killed detectives interviewed all thirteen with each person i talked to there's no blood there's no evidence of damon involved in anything so if it's one of these people were interviewing they've disguised as well there there was nothing suspicious about any of the thirteen interviews so detective started methodically digging through other evidence starting with thermo fisher security camera footage and right away they spotted something unusual happened the morning of the murder of vehicle in the parking lot not entering but leaving around the back of the building detectives match the truck to its owner david dooley the janitor an one of the workers found michelle's body dave delays truck is seen leaving parking lot at six thirty one that morning right after the murder that's right that's right the security tape show duly returning to the warehouse around seven pm detective look very thought it was odd the duly hadn't mentioned that when they first spoke they needed to speak with duly again so they want to be apartment he shared with his wife janet and duly wasn't surprised to see see though i kind of figured it would happen just do a follow up before detective mcvay even brought it up do we told him he gone home the morning of the murder look really a record of their conversation i seen by here in one by suspicious became back here i came back here yeah i couldn't get my wife and i wanna make sure she's okay yesterday you come you left you're used to why did you decide anything about that detective stall also question david wife janet separately link to see if she would tell the same story this conversation would prove critical to the entire case what she said is in dispute becomes a part of the recording his heart the here what is first solving so they let us start yesterday yesterday after it's fucking clear i ask her specifically if they've ever came home that morning and she says no to stall am mcvay janet duly had just contradicted her husband's story so police questioned her again about that apparent discrepancy you told me out of the tactics he didn't come home that day janet seemed surprised she told police the david did in fact come home and the reason she offered raised more questions were investigators the gators instead here's what the man said he had come home and just now you guys have aunt janet statements were not helping her husband's cours david dooley never said anything about red pants the police adding to the confusion detective spoke with thermo fisher employee joe siegert told them he talked with duly that morning courting the joe he made a point to come over to him and say hey man i had to go home because i wrote my pants duly was adamant he never said that the siegert an did not read these bands that day but the different stories about why he came home placed a bullseye squarely on david dooley back we start working on a search warrant for the residents in the truck you execute a search warrants and you find bloody clothing no bloody clothing stuff taken from the crime scene that shouldn't be at his house now some kind of murder weapon now no bloody clothes no weapon but david dooley was leaked only employee who left the warehouse on the morning michelle mockby was killed and there were witnesses contradicting dooley's account of why he left that morning on september twenty seventh two thousand twelve the boone county sheriff's department made it's move david dooley was arrested and charged with the murder of his co worker michelle mockby case closed not by a long shot the david dooley trial would exposed secrets tarnished the reputation of law enforcement michelle's family question if justice would ever be served coming up philly was in the middle of breaking into her office when she came up the steps and surprise down break one after that feels like a shitload of sometimes desperate people do desperate things when james long contribute michelle mockby favorite color had always been red since her death her family has worn read in her honor and that's what they did in october two thousand fourteen when they flowed into this kentucky courthouse david dooley trial on may the twenty ninth of two thousand twelve denmark off the they're all waltham at the hands of the man couldn't even keep his story straight from one day to the prosecutor linda tally smith new she didn't have a perfect case there were no fingerprints no dna and so she told jurors they wouldn't hear about any smoking gun but they would here david dooley his own words which made him the last man standing in the detectives process of elimination it was through this process that the path kept turning back to one person that defending david billy jurors heard the almost only employees working on the morning of the murder or i'm aware house floor far away from me upstairs office area where michelle is killed they were eliminated a suspect we're able to create a time rickard of where everybody was an what they were doing at different points during the morning and david dooley there's a red pickup truck the jury got the seat duly on security video from that morning defending actually left that building that day at six thirty one in which is about a half hour after michelle walked into the building the prosecutor showed the jury a photo of those fresh thyme marks on michelle's office door and said they were crucial clue that helped explained the murder are believe has always been that david dooley was in the middle of breaking into her office when she came up the steps and surprise down an ultimately she was assaulted unrestrained because she was a witness to a crime in progress absolutely the medical examiner said michelle bludgeoned with something similar to and industrial packing tape gun so then after such a violent attack i was no blood evidence ever found on david dooley why wasn't any of the dna found at the scene imagining is prosecutor argue the janitor senator work every day with cleaning supplies and plastic bunched together perfect for removing evidence of a crime at the time david dooley attacked michelle in that whole way what did he have with him hey rolling prime seen cleanup part with a trash bag in the middle of it is my personal belief that when he left that building he took with him a bag containing olivia evidence that was missing from the scene a cover up so spotless only a janitor good manager said the prosecutor only story she said that was a mess it's very hard for a person to explain how they can't tell the same story twice in in these circumstances we had four separate statements from him look very testified he was only in duly second interview at his apartment duly first mentioned leaving work and going home and i came back year okay what time did you come back here six thirty i couldn't get my wife and i wanna make sure she's okay his wife janet said david did come all the change up here and red pants eight a headache alone just now in contact dancing it sounds like an alibi except sapped david dooley adamantly denied doing that never said that her name's knew that went defense attorneys chris road tom pugh got their turn they talked about all the hard evidence the state didn't have dna evidence murder weapon blood evidence marks on david dooley duly never testified in front of the jury but he did talk today line about the case against it in his story that different from his wife's you say you want another check on your wife told your wife and she says he came home because he tore his pants and he came up the changes man so what's the truth and why can't you and your wife agree on the same story we do agree that i came home did you go home to change and brands no i did not why would you why say that you did i did not know we've talked about that a couple of times and they only thing we could come up with is she didn't hear me properly janet lee has serious hearing problems on the day of the murder she says she only saw a pair of written answers in the house and thought david said that's why you came home so a person cannot hear they put things together themselves through their eyes life and i that they didn't change his closing dave didn't change his story the defense also stressed the dna was found on the shells body aunt belongings in at least five different places and none of that was a conclusive clusive match the david dooley or anyone else we heard testimony there were many unknown dna profiles one of these unknown profiles had been the killer the defense noted that something had set off the warehouse alarm system just three days before the murder music that's member him yeah yeah significant that means that someone could have gained access thermo fisher after both sides have presented their cases it was time for closing arguments no one could think of any reason to kill michelle mockby so what motive with david dooley have the kill michelle mockby but it was only after the defense and wrapped up its closing the prosecutor gave hurry answer to that question laying out her syria motive for the first time i would suggest to you the evidence is right in that stack of stuff over that time are you living in all the motives of going after yes i believe that michelle had actually discovered the fact that he had actually been triple dipping by clocking himself in clocking his wife in and getting paid hourly do a job but they're already being paid a monthly salary to do that feels like a thin motive sometimes desperate people do desperate things was david dooley desperate enough to commit murder over falsified cards you would be up to the jury to decide coming up we the jury verdict from the jury buck del rio stunner was what came after that i don't get a chance to explain it you're not showing any like prosecutor kern whipping the cage turned upside down they lie they cheat that's what they do hi it's katy tur wanna keep up with msnbc see while you're on the go subscribe msnbc daily newsletter you'll get the best of what you miss during this unprecedented era of news text msnbc two six six eight six six to subscribe after winning a full day without hearing a verdict michelle mockby siblings or on pins and needles on the first day comes and goes and there's no verdict because word of all check wrestling yeah it was pretty agonizing waning then after deliberating for some sixteen hours over two days word came from the jury there was a verdict we the jury find the defendant david dooley guilty of murder address skills for the murder of michelle mockby did you knew what the commercial mock now i did not i did not kill her david dooley was sentenced to life in prison he filed an appeal you know getting convictions reversed on appeal is a long shot but when you're innocent it does happen and it will happen duly was right it wasn't over two years after his conviction a whistle blower came forward to reveal a secret grow in between detective bruce mcvay and prosecutor linda tally smith the scandal ron the prosecutor's prosecutor's office in would leads to serious questions about david dooley conviction brian hamrick covered the scandal nbc cincinnati affiliate w l w t all of the information about the personal conversations between the prosecutor lender tally smith aniline detective bruce mcvay all of their correspondence all of that comes out the jaw dropping headlines of the affair between the prosecutor and the league detective began weeks after the trial at a hearing in march of two thousand seventeen the prosecutor anza detective both instrumental including duly behind bars found themselves on the hot seat being grilled by dooley's new attorney denis are you telling me you didn't have a sexual relationship with her where we were friends you're under oath we were friends did you have a sexual relationship with her i you denying that we've seen your business i'm asking you the end you're under oath she'll testify she'll say tell me what it is you're answers i just said yes okay thanks simple let's talk about this letter was sensational courtroom drama furby issue for the duly trial wants to be fair it wasn't eighteen page letter in which the prosecutor blasted the detective was by then her former lover as an outright lie are both personally professionally worst part she ended up leading her own scaling words into the court rickard now that i know what a complete are you are i'm going to grapple with ethical issues with every case in which you were in malls she said she was upset because mcvay didn't tell her what was on a thermo fisher security video but he'd come across lose attorney continued reader from her letter not to mention the fact that you allow me to go through it simply asking murder tile without telling the truth about that video and now that i know fluffy going to do now what the what am i supposed to do right that one message from the valleys with the brewers win really tells the story and that may be the most damning paragraph of the entire trove of information he says eight eleven pm random day the video in question shows a man outside the thermo fisher building police calling the random dude it's a little hard to tell exactly what he's doing but he's on the property where a woman is murdered brutally ten hours later and we don't know who he is the prosecutors said the defense was given this video but defense attorneys say they never saw it in were never told about the random dude that would have been are closing your whole defense was he didn't do it so if if we can point to unknown individuals or china gain access the building that would definitely have been used remember tally smith said she didn't know about the man on the video during the trial but finally learned about from mcvay afterwards but then she did not she didn't go to the judge janine go to t attorney general entreated go to the defense either she wrote a letter to bruce mcvay saying how could you do this to me and i get delivered look with the worry that someone on the defense side will find it at some point and that will wind up in trouble over and the entire case will be tainted because of it you wrote that i did write that defense of her actions apparently moved testified she subsequently calm down and never sent that letter and besides you said the video with a random dude was much ado about nothing it doesn't constitute any evidence that someone got in that building had changed anything about the k absolutely not for his part but very said he didn't tell the prosecutor about the video because he was confident the random dude wasn't the killer but after hearing the testimony the judge threw out david dooley conviction it was stunning development setting the stage for a new trial david dooley would remain behind bars in the interim they found out may call man because he was crying he relieved that finally executive second chance to prove his innocence we still have a murder out there but i'm not gonna shut up until they've comes home janet duly was confident her husband would be found not guilty in a new trial because detective mcveigh's credibility was compromised after the prosecutor brandon him a liar they lie they cheat to win and that's what they do this show sister said they were frustrated frustrated by the judge's decision but it didn't change their minds about david dooley guilt after everything that's come out you think they got the right guy we absolutely think they have the right guy in doubt about that and i think that's happened since the drum nothing any appeal has made you think maybe the jury wrong now michelle is just she deserves justice i mean she deserves all this to be we all deserve to be seven long years after michelle mockby will kill both sides had the brace themselves for a new trial coming off a new prosecutor without power but we knew hey where's dozens missing suspicious screwdriver driver man sosa time card they know about their own exactly when dateline continue as the second trial approached michelle mockby daughter madeline could see it weighing on her father he had a little bit of closure and then second child comes and everything's chest white backout well michelle's family was bracing for another trial a lot has changed prosecutor linda tally smith had lost her reelection bid and was now eight potential witness so the kentucky attorney turney general's office at assistant agee john hack took over the case later jim the jury with every case that i take i review it and i asked myself is this person beyond all doubt guilty whoever did this was familiar with that facility then you say well who was there and then whoever did it had left who left now without a one person as for the video the show i'm identified man approaching the warehouses side door heck offered an explanation for why the so called random the dude didn't matter knowing that this is what got the new trout granted we wanna hit that head on the what that man did actually throw something in the garbage can write this addy door like i was never identified never identified perhaps the heart of the jays was the david dooley will be only want to leave the warehouse by morning biswas hey bloody violent murder they would be covered in blood there were no bloody clothes found on the saint whoever did it left and we looked at the video camera tamra ac only one left one of the things that could have been covered in blood dooley's deal to work boots required footwear at the warehouse heck told the jury duly might well have gotten rid of his boots the cover up the crime where's this house garage beat trump needs to know about so did duly leave work to check it on his wife for to get rid of bloody evidence david dooley statement was when he went on to check on his wife right you don't believe that no he wasn't texting saying how're you doing and she wasn't testing back saying i'm feeling bad that communication never had been david dooley did plays one unanswered phone call to his wife that morning before going home the heck is duly was really concerned about his wife he would've called more the ones that also found janitor david dooley's conflicting stories suspicious it's her version of the story the sort of you find more interesting yes because she's essentially covering up for criminal remember the disputed the audio of janet duly talking to investigators gators the day after the murder one source consolidates all yeah yeah yeah staffers came by janet duly denies ever saying her husband didn't come home that morning and she accuses detectives of manipulating her words and ignoring her hearing problems but heck points to another interview with detective stall several weeks later in which janet seems to admit saying her husband never came home and then spent the last few days reviewing all all of the interviews that we've done and i said why dave left for that morning what is the very first time you saw him after he left for work and you said when you guys let him go that after that's how i remembered it so the second time they went over her first statement with her and say you told us this this and this and she said yeah that's how i remember that she said the exact same thing and that is david dooley did not come home francis shooter heck acknowledges not knowing exactly why david dooley would have wanted the break individuals office why he would have killed her but a hack the fact the david dooley was double dipping on time cards michelle handle payroll end the dooley's time cards from that we were never found work together just all to suspicious to ignore as we sit here today we have never found david enchanted dooley's tom carts firm that week just they never been found so there are missing time cards exactly two would michelle those with her that morning 'cause she was coming into peril she may have gathered in my she may have an heck emphasize a screwdriver was found in david dooley's locked janitors closet a screwdriver the same size you look similar markings as the prime marks on the chaumont leaves office whether they odds that in this situation vestry however is a difference the screwdriver like much of the case was circumstantial cortex response there were simply too much circumstantial evidence to ignore some point of coincidence is not point some point it's just overwhelming evidence of guilt now after years of waiting for their second chance at a trial david dooley defense team is ready to make their case end at the top of their list of alternative suspects was michelle's husband no alibi the police didn't even bother to cake is coming up new questions about michelle's husband and all that insurance money border the nine thousand dollars cash withdrawals clean knee pain somebody i don't know what would the verdict leads this john right away you heart just tell me i was terrified david dooley hit waited five years for a second chance in court hey this is new attorneys deanna denison and joe lawson were eager to represent their new evidence to a jury in new orleans quest dominant random person we wanna hear is rules of evidence presented defense attorneys from introducing linda tally smith letters in court the ones where she accused detected mcvay being a liar but what they did have this time around the random dude video that has led to be overturned convictions we have an entire first trial in this case it's conducted on the fact that this is a fairly secure building was a walkman shows is if that's not true to the defense that random dude was just one of these alternative the suspect ignored by detectives every single thing that was done from the moment they saw that david left on that surveillance tape was in an effort to convince david as opposed to make sure that they had the right person the defense run up other warehouse how some movies they said were not thoroughly investigated they focused on michelle husband dan the money he received from michelle's life insurance policy we started seeing cash withdrawals ten thousand twenty thousand twelve thousand fourteen thousand all of which suggests was well suggested that something's wrong four hundred nine thousand dollars of cash withdrawals cleaning paying somebody i dunno i mean that feels like you're throwing everything up a wall and see what's there yes i am yes i am all reasonable doubt prosecutors detectives in michelle's family all agree that dan mocked we had nothing to do with his wife murder at almost stand he said as much you had anything to do absolutely absolutely not the defense also questioned the state's fury of motive you don't dispute the david dooley stealing now we don't we don't we think the daddy what yeah you know the he'd kill the cover that up no no absolutely not even though it would have been lost his job loss of his wife so we're gonna kill somebody know it had nothing to do with and covering up theft theft which we don't even know she knew about i mean the way she was bludgeoned that's not from somebody just oh shoot she found out about it you're gonna spend the time the taper legs up and drag her all over the place i don't think so remember the steel toed boots the prosecution's said were never found the defensive dooley's work boots were found shown hearing evidence photos they worked steel toed but the defense at duly wasn't the only one to violate the footwear rules at thermo fisher and her closing arguments deanna denison emphasized the circumstantial nature of the case against david dooley not question out any maybe do it they probably do it or you've done it oh maybe maybe they project elimination eighty only one that could have done it that's not the standard the standard is proof beyond reasonable doubt that he did it and they have not shown that to you know now once again the case was in the hands of a jury this time it took seven hours somebody said a they have a verdict so right away you're heart just start pounding i was terrified adam going upstairs adding to court rams we the jury find the finish david dooley guilty of murder under construction number for the second time david dooley was convicted of murdering michelle mockby would you clients after oh no not again michelle siblings had a very different reaction when they read that guilty if it's just i just felt everything just release lots of tears tears hugs they end of the day this is guilty man on the jury rightfully found him guilty of doing maintains his innocence remains silos at his second sentencing and he's still says i'm not gonna confess something i didn't do even if it means that this judge could change by since could give me a lower sentence never gonna admit to something that never happened it's been seven years since michelle staff but she's still part of her daughter's lobs madeline entirely parley say it's the little things but remind them of their mom bon jovi oh come on the radio i think like oh i'm like god kind of music and i got all kinds of concerts justify person everything i know about your mom makes me think that she wouldn't want a jew in a courtroom she wouldn't wanna hear about a murder trial she wouldn't have wanted any of this to touch you know now just like happy yeah maybe she'll finally underway yes that's all for this edition of dateline live will seal again monday at ten nine central on of course i'll see you each week for nbc nightly news lester holt for all of us at nbc news good 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4.9.20 Unemployment number skyrocket + PPP update; Feds aiding mid-size businesses; Exercising from home; Improving your work from home abilities

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4.9.20 Unemployment number skyrocket + PPP update; Feds aiding mid-size businesses; Exercising from home; Improving your work from home abilities

"Glad you're with us here on the Clark Howard. Show where we continue to provide you the latest up to date information for your wallet as it's being affected so much by corona virus and I wanNa tell you are folks at Clark Dot Com and car deals dot com also working night and day to give you information so you can stretch every dollar right now coming up later. I'm going to fill you in on the latest rescue for the economy announced by the Federal Reserve bigger than the three prior packages passed by Congress. Federal Reserve is going in big time to make sure the economy doesn't go into the deep freeze. And I want to tell you the the thing that probably led to such dramatic action today by the Federal Reserve which I'll describe the elements of later is the unemployment numbers that are trailing indicator now at seventeen percent. I'm sorry seventeen. Million PEOPLE FORGET PERCENT. Seventeen million people in three weeks have filed for unemployment. The number is going higher. We're going into levels. That are roughly equivalent to the Great Depression in the nineteen thirties. That has terrified. Economists and bankers at the Federal Reserve. And the reason is the worry is so great that the economy if it goes straight down doesn't have an easy way out economists. Talk about these use an els and I want to explain to you why it's so important that assistance get in people's hands as quickly as possible so avi is winning. Economy falls off a cliff like we have and then as soon as the cloud clears comes right back to life. It was well. I'm GonNa Talk Tomorrow about what has to happen on the medical side and procedurally for us to have a better recovery. But we're not going to have a V. If we do things right will have. What economists call you a? You is when the economy declines quickly and then kind of levels off. The bottom of a roller coaster doesn't start climbing to the top of the roller coaster again. Justice quickly like a V. Would but you know how you go down a roller coaster from the top part. And then I'll come back up. It'll be a little ridge. They'll go down another little ridge. That's what would be the best outcome from where we are right now and tomorrow. I'm going to talk about how we get there. And then Ann L. is where you fall off a cliff and then you stay with the economy and the toilet for a long time. The Federal Reserve's moves today. I'll talk about later specifically about eliminating the likelihood of an L. Which would be a fourth grade depression for the United States the two in the eighteen hundreds when in the nineteen hundreds and then we don't want one in the in the twenty twenties. Okay so let's deal with things that are here now. Impractical for you as we've dealt day by day with the issues involved with getting unemployment compensation to people. Things are starting to look better on the unemployment front. In terms of paying unemployment compensation. The feds have gotten the information of the states in order to pay the six hundred dollars and the funding is now becoming available to the states to pay the six hundred dollar federal supplement that will go through July for unemployment and so people should depending on your state. Unemployment office should start showing up at six hundred dollars next week in states that write the code quickly enough and get that money to people and in other states. I don't know if it's GonNa be another week after that or two because I can't control how well or how poorly states distribute that money. The six hundred is just about on the verge of showing up in people's accounts and that's the money that overlays what you're eligible for normally understate unemployment. Then the second thing that has generated so many questions to Clark Dot com slash ask is the compensation for self employed and independent contractors in GIG workers. That is still trouble. Prone pretty much across the fifty states and I can't sugar coat that that the people who work is icees self employed independent contractors have ended up in the back of the queue across pretty much the fifty states and that money is coming in it will come retroactively. But it's going to be a very painful delay on that money in that. Each of these things are becoming clearer as we go through this week. Now the P. More money is going to be available for the P P P in one direction or another. The money's coming and I wanted to direct you to what I think is the best guide that our team has found for you to know the nuances of the P. Program the Payroll Protection Program. How to apply? What's involved what you've got to provide to get the money as quickly as possible and it's by one of the fen tech's cabbage DOT COM K. A. B. AG DOT com. Look they're guide that is available. You'll see a link when you get the page if you don't if somehow you miss go to resources and you'll find their guide to what's involved in applying for the PP. And I want you to know that this process that has been so frustrating since last Friday will improve over time. It's just ban an absolute mess out of the gate and part of it has been the fault of the banks and part of it has been the fault of the federal government but the key thing is that over the next ten days the people applying for payroll protection program loans should start to see them find not like originally promised that would happen like magic almost immediately but those loans are going to start funding and I think by the week of the Well I would say by about the twentieth of April. We're going to see things. Get a little more clear and the process working better on the P P P LOANS. I want you to keep posting questions for me at Clark Dot com slash ask. It helps Kim Jolan. I know what content your most seeking from us and we are asking your questions for you alternating between Kim and Joel Kim. Who's up first today up first today is Rachel. She says I'm an emergency room R. N. Who was forced to use her own? Pto for mandatory quarantine. I took care of Multiple Cova patients and to ensure that I was not sick nor did I make anyone else sick. I was sent home. Enforce use my own. Pto for two weeks now back at work. The hospital is also cut in shifts to all employees due to low patient volume and they are forcing us to use our own. Pto OR NOT GET FULL-TIME HOURS. However if an employee does not have the PTO hours the company is awarding the hours to them. How is this right? There's a lot of things that people are making decisions on the fly that in hindsight or even in current vision or not fair clear. And if you are really fired up about this and you're not worried about blowback. Go send a message to the CEO of the hospital or the administrator of the hospital and don't make it a gripe session but point out. What are the inconsistencies in the policy? If on the other hand at a time that the hospitals under great financial strain. And you're worried about the culture. They're making waves. You might have to just suck it up and deal with the unfairness of how. They're handling paid time off And Kim One of the things we've not addressed is that hospitals are suffering. Massive revenue declines. Because they are not doing normal routine non emergency procedures surgeries testing and all the rest so the revenue that hospitals normally live on is not there and hospitals with the strain of potentially saying it's at some hospitals too. Many Corona virus patients others have a reasonable patient load but the overall utilization hospitals right now is extremely low causing severe problems for the hospital systems around the country. Joe Clark Jim Road any says I'm a self employed contractor. I haven't seen anything with regards to first quarterly payments. They're normally do on April fifteenth. Has this state been deferred? Yes it has till July Fifteenth. And so if you go to the IRS dot Gov website and you click on frequently asked questions. Vahan been updating this for various topics involved with tax filings and tax payments that are due to the irs with things published. About what the special rules are right now because of corona virus so this is one of the things. Es estimated tax payments are delayed till July fifteenth and. That is one less thing that people who need to worry about. But if you have a variety of tax situations the best briefing that the IRS has is this FAQ section. They're doing for corona virus relieve. Kim Lisa says great podcast about PP. With Ashley Bell from the SPA. But what I didn't hear was guidance about the Next Steps. If your banker lender is no longer accepting applications we have all of our business flash personal accounts with big bank a but they won't accept our P P P APP big bank be where we have all our business. Issued Credit Cards require a bank account open prior to February twenty twenty which. We don't have any suggestions about where to submit our P P P application. I've also reached out to our insurance carrier to see if their bank is going to be an approved lender so this is such a frustration for small businesses. And I think it's going to take an action by the federal regulators to force banks to cooperate on issuing these loans. What we've got going on here is small community. Based banks and credit unions want to make these loans inner trying to but the staffing required is tough for them. And they're doing as many as they can't the giant monster megabanks that we saved who suffered no consequences for their criminal acts that led to the banking scandals and great recession in seventy nine. They're like This is something we want to do. I mean we just don't really care about this and we're going to do as little of it is we can. They're going to have to be compelled to cooperate and participate in addition the SBA seems to be Broken on one aspect right. Now and that is one of the parts of this program is supposed to be an expedited procedure for banks and credit unions and fen tax. Like the People. I mentioned earlier cabbage. K B B Dot Com to bring them into the ability to make SBA loans four these corona virus activities like the P P P loans and others that are specifically geared to get money to businesses as quickly as possible. So that the number sheer number of people you can go borrow from would be greater when I'm recommending is look for Lenders that are Non Traditional. Like Fen Tech's as soon as they get approved by the SBA they actually want to make these loans and the difference between them and the giant monster. Maga's is oh they don't WanNa be bothered. And they just wish they could go to their country club golf so you gotta go somewhere where you're actually wanted and you're learning through this process that the big banks don't care about you at all support for today's episode comes from Progressive Insurance. Here's a fun fact. Progressive customers qualify for an average of six discounts when they sign up for progressive auto insurance discounts for things like enrolling automatic payments ensuring more than one car going paperless and of course being a safe driver plus customers who bundle their auto with home or add. Renter's insurance save an average of twelve percent on their auto insurance. There are so many ways to save when you switch and once your customer with progressive you get unmatched claim service with twenty four seven support online or by phone. It's no wonder why more than twenty million drivers trust progressive and why they've recently climbed the third largest auto insurer in the country get a quote online at Progressive Dot Com in as little as five minutes and see how much you could be saving auto insurance from Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Home Renter's insurance not available in all states provided and service by affiliated and third party insurers discounts vary and are not available in all states and situations post questions for me at Clark Dot com slash. Ask and then producer. Joe's GonNa ask when you posted right now. Clark Chris Road any says you talked about how the savings That auto insurance companies. They're saving a lot of money right now during this crisis and they're providing some refunds to their customers but what about health insurance companies that are also having fewer claims right now shouldn't they be giving refunds to that is a great question so the unknown for health insurers is this year actually going to be brutal for them financially? A lot of people who are losing their jobs right now are also losing their employer provided health insurance and so- premium dollars. Some people being furloughed where the health insurance stays in place others are being laid off losing your paycheck and your health insurance so it's unclear yet whether insurers having less procedures they're paying for that or elective or non emergency or going to see more money coming in or less because of the number of people who are losing their health insurance right now and then in term those those premium dollars we also don't know what the total costs are going to be for health insurers for treating people with corona virus where many of the major insurers require no out of pocket no deductibles. No Co pays on that so it's too early to be in a position to say hey health insurers give us some money back and give it to us now. We got to see what happens. You know under the obamacare rules if their profits are too great. They have to give back some of that money later. Glad you're here with us on the Clark Howard. Show where it's all about you and that Walla Yours and we're all about helping you stretch every dollar that you got right now is dollars. Become more scarce. So we've had three stimulus laws go through. Congress and still a lot of the economy is facing real instability so the Federal Reserve in an unprecedented move beyond anything that has been done as far as I know ever by the Federal Reserve has come up with a program bigger than all three laws that have been passed to this point by the Congress. Remember the last one that the congress passed. The Third Corona virus stimulus care thing was two trillion dollars by far the largest of any such kind of thing that ever been well now. The Federal Reserve is doing new program. That's larger than that. And they're looking to fill holes in the marketplace with the specific goal. Being that when we come out of hibernation and when people want to resume more normal activities because by the way. I gotta say something. There's been so much talk about the shelter in place and the effects that's having on the economy shelter in place came in most states. After most consumers had stopped spending money on so many different activities in the Economy Sport Shutting Down Convention Shutting Down Travel Shutting. Down Concerts theater. There are so many movie theaters. There are so many segments of the economy that people just essentially went on buyer strike for very practical reasons and so even when shelter in place lifts. I'm GonNa talk more about this as I mentioned earlier tomorrow. When that lifts there are segments of the economy that are still going to have a hard time coming back to life quickly so the Federal Reserve has come up with several new initiatives specifically designed so that when segments of the economy do come back that the employers will still exist and one of the things that they've done is come up with a new very large program for mid sized companies big companies already. Were being taken care of by various federal programs. Small companies in theory or being taken care of eventually will be by the payroll protection plan and the idol. Speaking of which Federal Reserve is also backstopping that today with extra resources. Well Congress has not been able to come up with that money yet and so for mid sized companies. The Federal Reserve is launching a special main street lending system to get money in the hands of mid sized companies that account for a significant share of employment in the United States. So this particular lending is very important in order to get people back up and running when the economy is ready for them. This is mainstream. Lending program is being funded with six hundred billion so quite a bit more than the small business program initially had but very similar with the additional money the Federal Reserve is back stopping the small business loan program and the main street program for mid sized businesses will end up with very similar size amount of money that will be there so businesses that have received separate loans from the SBA depending on the size of the business will also be eligible for the main street loans. And so think about this. If a business fails shuts down disintegrates shuts down is different than disintegrating if a business gets the point of disintegrating win. The coast is clear and that business would normally come back to life out of hibernation. There's no business there anymore. So both the lending to small businesses and the lending to mid sized businesses specifically designed so that the economy going into reverse not based on economic conditions. But because of a pandemic that these businesses can come back now. Banks know nothing about the new main street lending program and they'll have to get the information from the Fed's how that program will be implemented but that is one of the big efforts that the Federal Reserve is making an absence of action by Congress to try to save the mid market of the economy. One other thing in the Federal Reserve did is. They are putting five billion dollars. Half a trillion into making sure that states and counties large counties in the country and large cities or able to meet their financial obligations all around the country. Tax REVENUES ARE COLLAPSING FOR CITIES COUNTIES and states and at a time that there's more demand on their services so the Federal Reserve is making this half trillion available in order for government to be able to function because one of the things that's Classic Economics. Anybody who who didn't sleep through economics one hundred or two hundred or whatever that was called. Where if you went to college where you went to college. You know about countercyclical funding that the idea is that when an economy goes into steep decline to help arrest that decline and increase the speed of a recovery. You have to make sure that you have countercyclical. Funding money that flows from the government the federal government and its entities as the last resort to keep things cooking. And that's what the Federal Reserve is working so hard at learning from the mistakes of the past. So they don't make those same mistakes. This time and I forgot is at camera. Joel was up. I hear I am up and this is from Monica. She says I heard you talk about our. Md's I haven't inherited IRA for my sister who passed a couple of years ago. Well this also apply to the No. Ram D. Rural for this year. She goes on to say thank you so much for keeping US informed. There's so much information and it is so overwhelming but you and your team really explained things said that we can understand and I'm truly appreciative. Where you are so kind to say that and we are working. Really hard a ever Fast moving situation and I have made a couple of mistakes in these weeks. I've said things that turned out later. Not to be true when I want to make it clear to you that if I do make a mistake like that that as soon as we have better information I will correct it with you and explain that I made a mistake before because this is hard to get everything right but we are trying just like Clark Dot Com. It's trying to make sure that the information available to you is right each time and now Monica on your question so this is an obscure provision of the Third Corona virus stimulus law that you are actually able for this year only to skip your our MD on an inherited. Ira and it was a provision. That I didn't even know existed but producer Joel found so you can thank Joel finding that answer Joe Clark. We're talking about our. Md's Kate wrote and she said when you were talking about armed es and the changes made as a result of the stimulus package. You mentioned that if we'd already taken it out for twenty twenty that we were stuck but our financial adviser informed us that we had sixty days from the day we received it to return it to our retirement account which we did so. Can you clarify that? Your financial adviser is right. It is For lack of a better word. A loophole with the required minimum distribution. That the ideas. That if you'd already made it this year but it's been less than sixty days since you made it. You can redeposit the money quickly all of it and then you are not subject to the. Ram D. This year and this is a one year only provision is well on the our MD for people who are in their seventies or beyond who were required to pull money out of retirement accounts each year. Kim Jim says if your employer instruction not to wear a mask for your own protection on your job is the employer in violation of any current laws. The employer is in violation of human decency. As far as any law. It would be up to a governor of a state at this point. An absence of federal action a governor would have to declare that that is a necessary safety requirement. There are retail stores that have promised their employees that safety equipment would be available and there are so many reports that people report to work. And there's no safety gear available for them an employer going a step further and saying Oh. You're making customers uncomfortable. You can't wear a mask. Bat is in my books inhumane and could cost somebody their lives. I don't know of no way to compel them to allow you to do so. Short of an action by your state's governor. So what I would do is I would contact. They're all at home now. Contact your representative years. State your State House representing state senator in your state legislature and say the problem. You're having and see if they can advocate on your behalf with your state governor to issue an order requiring that employees that are essential. Be Allowed to wear safety gear. Joe Clark trae Rodin he says if and when I receive my PP loan. How long do I have to Rehire employees for the issue? Is We have no business right now. So there's nothing for them to do. In addition we are not an essential business. So I can't really have the come in anyway. Okay so this is a great question that has really confused people. So if there's no work for people to do the idea is that you pay them. Anyway it's almost like giving people extended leave where they're paid for their time off. Pto But you pay them for the two months so even though there is no actual work for them to do the thinking behind this. Is that you retain your employees so when Your Business can resume you. Were able to pay them. They're still there to come back to work for you. And it's at no cost to you if you do so. So the idea is the day your loan funds that you bring your employees back on payroll you bring them back on payroll for the sixty days and then that payroll will be forgiven the money that was Pp loan becomes a grant you have to document typically with Payroll documents and we'll be getting that question couple months how you document but you document and then you essentially have been Santa Claus to these employees where they're getting paid again you benefit because you retain and you're not actually the one who produced the money. The federal government produce the money for you to keep people on the payroll. If you have a question for me please go to Clark Dot com slash. Asked to post and Kim who do you have a question from this is from Sean? He says after this current economic crisis is over what market segments and or mutual funds will come back the strongest and fastest. It's very difficult to predict people who are very very risk oriented who are very willing to take on rhys. More speculative kind of people are looking at the segments of the economy. That had been absolutely hit. The worst things that are totally optional. Like the cruise lands that have seen the value of their companies fall to near zero was still overhanging possibility of bankruptcy and potential liquidation for cruise lands airlines are very high risk category fact Warren Buffett. Who really believes in the three full fare? Airlines plus South West has been selling stock in the airlines. He's held so many shares in it again becomes an area of very very high risk ending leisure activity anything that is an optional activity. Those kinds of categories are the ones for people who have more of a gambling instinct. Otherwise it's hard to know. Wait segments of the economy or going to spring back best. And that's why I go back to my normal thing. Which is I'm all about the index funds. Where I'm a believer in the free enterprise system. I'm a believer in the US economy and others overseas. And so that's where I believe. The long term recovery with a reasonable level of risk resides is owning a total or broad market index fund. Where you own little pieces of all of American capitalism you look at owning an international index fund. Those kind of things where you're betting on future economic activity rather than a particular segment or sliver the economy but for people who like to gamblers. Don't put any money in high risk parts of the economy that you would lose sleep over if you lost them in her bankruptcy but if you got money you WANNA throw that way. Go for the hot spots. Where things look disastrous. Joe Clark Ryan says as a pharmacist. It looks like I'm included in the proposed hero act. Can you explain how this whole work if it doesn't a passing so the Heroes Act was proposed by a Congressman Bill Zanga where he's from but the Heroes Act specifically gives a four month federal income tax vacation for people who are frontline people in fighting corona virus people work and hospitals people that are medical support staff. Pa's NP's nurses pharmacists like you paramedics MTV's firefighters police officers prison staff. They're all included and people who work in nursing homes assisted. Living The idea is these are people putting their lives on the line. It is a very interesting idea. I don't know that it's going to get traction throughout the Congress and I know other people would say well. What about the people who are working in the supermarkets should they be included or people? Who are work in a pharmacy. That are not a pharmacist. Where there's so many people coming in. Who May in? Fact be ill so who knows when a bill is introduced like the heroes? Act You don't know how it moves and you don't know how it changes through the process. The podcast normally would end here. But because of the unusual circumstances wherein we have additional content that we recorded earlier today that I'd like you to have access to and this will continue day by day as long as the events warrant. I WanNa talk about something. That is not being talked about that much right now. And it's the stress that the fallout from. Corona virus is piling on so many of us people feeling anxiety levels of depression. Just straight out stress. It's hard for people who in many cases are suddenly unemployed worrying about money other people who are working from home. Their kids are home. It's a little too much for some people family togetherness and so there can be a of a spiral down people eating out of stress people not eating out of stress. There's one thing that can help and it's clear as could be and in the midst of what we're dealing with right now. I think extra timely to talk about how important exercise is and two studies that came out that completely unrelated to corona virus. Find in one case the enormous benefit to your life expectancy. If you'll start exercising more and I'll talk about specifics of that in the second the other finding that if you'll exercise some every other day that it has a massive positive benefit in dealing with depression hostility and other negative feelings. We might be having and this study that deals with your head was in trade journal for. Industry called health psychology. The study was done by researchers principally at Columbia University Medical Center. There were some others involve partially in this and they found an extreme correlation between you getting active at least every other day and what it does to your mental attitude. And you think about it as I said I right now with how. We're kind of on our back foot. Emotionally that using your feet to be active can make a big difference. My oldest child has never been a big stationary bike person and she and her husband got a stationary bike is making a big difference in her mental attitude. And she's getting more fit by doing so. The other study found that if you take four thousand additional steps a day four thousand additional steps a day. The study was published in the Journal. The American Medical Association that your risk of dying early from heart disease or cancer drops by fifty percent five o percent double-whammy improve your mental attitude and improve your physical health just by getting out there and exercising. And here's something else. I wanted to talk about today so we have a very unusual situation currently that roughly somewhere around thirty percent of people can work from home. The other seventy percent can't or have been laid off but people that work at home or finding themselves with all kinds of adjustments in their house and I can tell you from talking to our team at Clark Deals Dot Com that the deals that people are clicking on very heavily on Clark deals. Are Things for office equipment office furniture for the home and technology to support working from home or for their kids being home from school so I wanted to take a moment and tell you about some of the things out there that are helping people and one of them is for you to be able to improve the reliability of the Internet in your home? The Internet has become a keen lifeline for kids to keep up with their school work and parents who can work from home to be able to get the work done and the Internet that you're using has to be reliable for that and I wanNa tell you about if you've got a split thing going on in your house. People consuming a lot more video in their homes with the streaming services at the same time as people having to work a lot more in home getting something known as a dual. Mesh will really help your Internet and both Costco. Wholesale Sam's Club have deals for online purchasing to deliver to you for the Orbi Mesh. This allows your Internet to be more reliable and give you in theory the same quality speed at any point near houses. Any other point in your house where usually with a normal router. You're not going to have that. The signal degrades the further. You get from the router. So Sam's Club has an or be Mesh available for one hundred sixty nine dollars. Costco has a different version. That Orbi Mash for one hundred seventy nine dollars. Both of these are very good. Prices for a whole House Wireless Mesh System. It's basically giving you a much more reliable wi fi for regular stuff gaming and video then you typically will have right now at a price. It's basically a third with these systems. Were a year ago now with these systems. You can't be in a normal house but you can be in a house. Both are rated for houses up to forty five hundred square feet. The average house in the United States is about twenty five hundred square feet so most any home in the United States. Instead of a mega will be fine. With either of these systems. The other thing is Wyatt Dot com which is Amazon clearance site is doing a sale right now on office stuff for the home. It's hard to fight you. Go to Wu dot com. Click on home and kitchen. Once you click on home and kitchen you then go to the section under home in kitchen for update your office and under there. They have standing desks. Regular deaths Various office equipment storage units for an office in the Home Office supplies all of that. If you're an Amazon prime member you pay no shipping cost with the purchases from route. If you are not an Amazon prime member you pay typically five dollars shipping for your order. Computer Desk here. Eighty one bucks standing desk one. Thirty Eight Here's a very small one you can use as a portable table. Twenty five bucks. I mean these prices are very good and if you need a really good office chair for the home. Sam's Club is offering a really nice when on sale right now for delivery is well for its members very expensive. It's one of those fancy Mesh chairs one hundred eighty nine dollars. You're listening to the Clark Howard show. Thanks for joining us today. The Clark Howard show is produced by Kim. Droves Joel Guard Debra reese and GM airs and remember twenty four hours a day. Where there to serve you Clark? Dot Com and CAR DEALS DOT COM.

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Forbidden Fruit s8e3

Disturbed: The American Horror Story Podcast

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Forbidden Fruit s8e3

"This episode of disturbed the American Horror Story podcast is brought to you by tweaked audio to get awesome headphones go to tweet dot co dot com and use the coupon code southgate to get thirty percent off free shipping and a lifetime warranty warranty or you can get through on our website Southgate Media Group dot com welcome to disturb. We are talking season eight episode three already forgot the name of this one for Yeah so <hes> I'm Rob Southgate with me. Chris Chris Mile and let's throw our social media upfront you could find us on twitter at disturbed pod. You can also find us on facebook. You can send us an email at southgate media group at gmail.com and we have had people bull getting interaction with us but the best actually had is when people jump on and talk to us right here as we're doing these live. I already screwed up. I said I was going to send out a tweet and let people know when we were going live. I forgot so I promise this going forward. We'll try to get that out earlier in the day and say like Hey. We're going on at eight tonight so people can join us in the chat because that was so much fun last time it was who's great so so Chris Yes sir. I WANNA start out by saying I'm really glad I hung in there by Dave. They flipped everything upside down. I mean this is at the end of this episode. It's not even the same shop no it's not it's completely different for an end. You know it's it's what they do so they will you know just like in roanoke where they got about halfway through and said we're going to changes to be something else. They did this year the third episode so yeah well it was it was pretty nuts. It's funny because we did get certain things right in our predictions but we'd certainly I mean I didn't expect almost anything the thing that happened in this one well I mean some of the things that happen aren't out of character but the ending definitely wasn't I mean even though we knew what cocoa getting stabbed in the head billy coming back now we did I about say billy Eichner who is GonNa come back in the first episode you did and I thought they brought him back in an awesome way but him standing cocoa in the head. I didn't see that coming. Oh No not at all that was great but when when they went back back just waiting for her to get what she she does awful she's awful I mean not the actress the person though she she's the one of the most despicable people and wasted treated the other one. She knew her from before which one man Yeah Billy Lord was her her assistant Mallory Mallory in in before the apocalypse right she was the one who took care of her and did all the stuff eight right. I forgot that she treats her like garbage. How `Bout that with Mallory though Oh yeah getting interviewed and she goes all of a sudden flame everywhere it was describing later? She's like there was a lot of fired and I love other. It's like okay. There's a fireplace do it again. No kidding holy cow in typical self entitled American fashion. Well needed at once do it again. It's like all right plus Langdon when his face went nuts. I'm like okay are they giving us witches and vampires. Is that what we're getting now or demons or whatever I mean something he's either a demon or a vampire. I don't know which but unclean normal but I mean you know. It's obvious that he's something else but yeah what is we don't know so yeah. Oh Hey our listener. Chris is on with does Geiger Chris. How's it going yeah this was this was quite an episode? I the last one I kept finding myself getting distracted and I go on twitter. I do whatever because you know I've got a million things going on this one. No doubt it was it was a quick forty two minutes. It was really really was it really was okay. Let's see if we could go through some of it so I don't even know where to start. I mean we started with with the billy. Lord seen that was that was fabulous and and then cocoa Coco's awful that hair all of it Evan Evan Peters. He's yeah that was that was really interesting too when he was talking to to Langdon about about evie dying rightly whatever I don't remember I was get it wrong. That was interesting when he was talking about that is like you didn't do anything I I can't tell if he did. I can't tell if what's reality and what isn't right. Yes if he's dead. She's not there and yes. He killed her okay but did he was she already. I don't I don't know I'm assuming stabbed her and I just I just don't even know so discombobulated right is it. Nobody seems really care do do they. Nobody really mentions it in any of the episode don't come so no. Hey you know just get rid of the Old Lady. Let's get it. Let's move on so more more more Jello for me. uh-huh yeah I read a review he'd always reading a recap of that last episode of the person who's really Kinda bashing on the Joan Collins Choice. They're like yeah good thing she's gone. I didn't really care for her. The character I I thought she was a perfect casting. I thought her character added a lot to it. So I disagree with the writer was I don't remember which which article is like buzzfeed or one of those but I know no one cares you know l. but I liked. I liked her addition there but we don't need I it was a good time to get rid of her. Yeah just I mean she was. I think good for what she did kind of that. She was actually if you look back. She was actually the most reasonable one of everybody there. <hes> because Evan Peters complete DB these horrible horrible person eat a horrible horrible person as an mallory is pretty horrible from what I've seen Dina Dinas not the greatest person either because when when when lane was like what are you doing here exactly on and she flipped. What are are you doing? You're you're like wait a minute. What is she got going on and then she was one of the witches right Yoshi Unaware witch I dunno I you know there's there's there's there's a lot going on even mallory? Isn't that great. If a person me immed- in Venable are definitely not good people so there might be out of the whole group three semi decent people will Jones wasn't note. She will call of what group why don't exactly what's left but I mean what's what's what's the boy's name. Chris delgadio video made a great point here. He said he should have been a witch. Though the the Sassine is Yemen you are totally right. She had that Magin her going up against Jessica laying yeah but with what's coming back. She's pretty Sassy. WHO's the red hair? I can't think of her name out the oh my gosh she's fantastic. I mean Francis Conroy geeing up with that hair. Yes that was spot on man. I love that it's crazy comes in and they're just the I remember the disdain they all had for everybody is the witches they were just great and it's great to see him back and I love that character of Sarah Paulson's she was. I thought that was really good. All my Gosh manege a win yeah when her you know leader character there got killed right venable got killed and she comes back as Cordelia good. I'm like thanks so much sense. We don't need venable anymore now. We've got this story with good and she looks even though we know it's her. She looks completely different Sir. I doubt they're going to do. She's two characters I think she's done but how about I think they're moving on from the. Bunker seen I think they are to how about the Kathy Bates stuff. We see this flashback and like it was really good. It was really like interesting and then she's like none of those memories. Remind right. I'm a robot but it says a heck is is this with the robot well. I think you know it's just going back to what I said earlier. I think that you just need somebody that he knows GonNa make it. You know robots not gonNA suffer from radiation poisoning and that's that can happen so if you're GonNa make something that reminds you of something good at her positive in your life not positive 'cause she definitely was not a positive person but somebody that you could count on maybe sliver of that so why did Langdon put a robot. They're made her in the image of something positive from his life but right. Why did he put a robot there except to execute everybody was he just trying to pull the witches out possibility ability yeah but he said he thinks he thought he killed them? All in one point he goes I think I killed them all in one part of the part of the show I don't I don't remember I'm telling you it was like a blur folks. I in the email that he talks about he goes. I think I killed them all but oh yeah right right right right I mean there's so much the question about Kathy Bates is going to be sitting for a while and issue the only robot right and you could see that she obviously fought within herself or in her mind or thought process or whatever it is about killing venable. She'd really couldn't help herself and she didn't understand why because she thought she was supposed to be loyal the vegetable and that you know Laden says killer and she's like okay. I guess yeah yeah she took that that gun and it was like she was fighting it the whole way and she did it she was like why did I do that. Because your program to Doughy Chris Road on here Langdon missed those witches maybe he did and he also wrote. I GIVE JESSICA laying a run for the money for instance is amazing yeah. She's this. This is perfect time to get cricket in. I'm telling you get cricket cricket and she make him the lead warlock would be credible. Yes a coke zero. He just shows up like like they go to like. I don't know if they're gonNA stay in the bunker or if they're going to all go to whatever this other area is right but either way I want to have the scene where the doors open like the big bad is coming in and it's cricket cricket yes that would be fantastic and he's superpower or Dennis O'hare one of the two yeah yeah you better track. The whole thing so Chris do miss meade is his secret crush. Okay Langdon secret crush. I don't know what you're talking about. Couldn't he could be what he's saying. It seemed like she raised him so she was like his nanny or yeah yeah Turkey or because if he's Tim Lankans son which might be the speculation didn't Langton die at the end of your house fiscal so I mean you know so then. He probably doesn't have any parents. It's so what does that Yo- somebody had to raise. You might have been the caretaker yeah who knows who knows and how old would she have been. I mean what did he model around after how she was when he was a kid yeah probably that's every ever and then he just made a you know for whatever little together in gave him some structure in his life before he went doing his demon thing or not. You know whatever he did so yeah Chris wrote. It was a secret baby. Mama knows yeah I was so crushed when they killed the the other woman the one that we really liked <hes> man the Fist Erica urban when when billy I showed up at stabber Mike is he really killing her. I mean they literally killed like almost everybody in this one did what did he get killed. Who later I don't remember dealing with the there was not killed? He killed both Erica urban or fist and coke and cocoa okay and then he just left or it has gone or he's just there. He's in that place so we. We don't know what's going to happen with him. Bad thing is I cannot picture him as being tough at all just from the character if these plates all like guard up everything. I believed it like I don't know I I mean I believe that he might have had determination just because he despised cocoa so much that he would go through that just to killer. You know that's kind of believable. I think think him being tough shooting those guys on the Beach Billy Acre I. I don't know about that but but then again I mean I bought into it. I really enjoyed seeing him there and and what happens I'm glad he's back and I'm glad he did what he did. I hope he gets more screen time. I hope it's not like one more episode and dead because the way the season's going what we're getting one episode dead one episode debt. WE'RE GONNA kill off a all the setup we had in the first two and a half episodes really gone yeah it doesn't it's post-apocalyptic and we also know that it really is remember. We were speculating about that wondering it is it's real real so do they only have a half season's worth us stuff and they said let's see what we can fill it with and they did this to set the stage. Yeah I think that yeah I think they're setting the stage and trying to get you off the path of what was really. We're GONNA happen here. You know there was also another interesting thing that happened in this one. I can't remember who referenced it when they said about the apples and they said these are clearly east coast apples yes and no absolutely not these were grown. Whatever what if the East Coast is still there sure what if they really are what if everything is fine and there's just these few outposts a post along in California coast or you know that they think the world is blown up which would also make sense because they set us up in the first episode where they're like look at how self-centered these California people are so? There's this nuclear strike if they assume the whole world is blown up while they said that Hong Kong in Tokyo and London got blown up right isn't aren't those towns aren't those cities that got blown up and then they said L. A. was being hit so maybe they did leave the rest of the country alone. Yeah maybe maybe the east coast is totally fine or or did we take this as like a garden of Eden type thing Lancer Denver definitely doing with the apple and the temptation and everything should add how about I do the bobby for apple everytime like somebody's GonNa bite that apple yes and the one guy actually did by the side of it but he must have pierced the skin or you're supposed to that was that was done so well right but you know number one. If you have an apple in your hand you're all going to wait. You're not gonNA wait. You're GonNa Start Snort on you and you and I would have waited for ten seconds. It would've been like we'd have been chewing halfway through and they'd be like okay. Everybody wait Y- you just hold Appalachia mouth. Sorry yeah that would happen so Langan's whole thing all that we've got another one billy or will pop up sometime in the season. He hasn't shown up since that episode so sorry to Spoil Chris by the next two episodes. I know you're ahead to episodes from where we're at with this. <hes> no billy eichner so he's going to show up. He did not die in there. He didn't even apple he didn't even apple and he was in Coco's room so yup down the rest of the restroom. Don't care they pulled Coco's body out there at her scar was gone rabbi so so oh cocoa mallory and Pirker. What's her name Tina Dino Parker Edina porter is that's where I got Parker? I actually kind of retained somebody's name. You're captain today Captain America Yeah Right. Those were the three that's gotta be an here think oh great underneath it says whole I wonder what that means the whole but we saw the three of them are which is obviously they got resurrected. Yes and and Emma Roberts obviously has some kind of issue with Mallory and it just was it was great. Now I wonder along its Robertson. That's for me. What's her name? Who We have Francis Count Right? You had Emma Roberts and you had. Urban Homina Homina oh no surplus okay gray out those three which is the came in in the through that were laying there were billy Lord Edina porter and Cocoa Leslie Grosman and listen to this yeah yeah so I wonder though if they will when they see because they haven't seen Kathy Bates yet if they will associate her with the character character from from coming sure maybe maybe not and I wonder if I wonder if he modeled her after her. Maybe but I don't remember her hair being like that but maybe it was it doesn't meet her hair was like that Chris. I know you don't have a lot of hair but people that have hair. They do style it. I'm not going to do it because you don't. There's a whole on my shirt of right in the middle of the right right. I wonder about that talking about but there's a possibility that they will recognize her and think that's that's like wait a minute lick like her since she bricked up in the wall somewhere in the Anna is but that doesn't mean that his demon spawn didn't encounter or in some way sure I I mean we're living in a world of this show right now. Where there's the witches and they're all over the place in time there there there's I it's either vampires demons? I don't know which yeah in his edina reporter supposed to be the the main witch. No edina porter is like a what was I'm trying to think in Coven Yeah uh she's like the voodoo witch or something wasn't all instead yet. Is that WHO that's supposed to be. They just change it out or whatever else I wonder okay. We've got some Chris says he feels like he's the only one discuss with you well right now. You are Chris but we've had a few others over over over time. We get other people but Chris. You're kind of the third third person on the show right. Now I love when we go live and discusses to order is able to print set priestess right. Yeah I said something about Voodoo. Magic is B._S. or something but obviously they need her and she strong so yeah I. I don't know why that wasn't a WHO's who it was. I'm drawn a blank really tired right now. General Galang Dana Delany. Let's see <hes> Jessica Tandy Babka numbers and I don't know Cucumber Patch Oh. I wish that'd be awesome all right you want me to go back to look at no. I can't think of who it was. The movie American movie me He makes the movie Kovin and it's like oven Coven Cohen and now I can never get it right because he's Angela Bassett. Thanks is Dina Porter is supposed to be Angela Bassett character or not no way no no way. Why would they bring Angela Bassett? She's been onset. Isn't it can't afford her. I don't know that she's they can afford Kathy Bates but it's Kathy Bates like the character she played in roanoke where she was like the of crazy outta work actress and needed any jobs you get and but that's not true. She had can't debates his head quite a career so she's awesome and I'm I'm not so. I'm wondering I'm wondering what other characters we're going to see. Our is is yes. <hes> TESSA FOR MEGAN GONNA show up. I don't know is is lily. Raid GonNA show up Dennis O'hare and these are the people that were in that season. I I didn't Chew Jessica. Lang gene was supposed to appear this season. She might have made a can't let got like a one episode kind of deal but Madame Marie Lavelle was Angela Bassett and candidates was Lori. Lori and that's why I'm saying that is Edina poorer supposed to be Angela Bassett character and she just stuck around. I mean that's I hate to say I'm surmising that but maybe they just slop it out. Yeah I doubt it Kristie Point. Eric character is supposed to be immortal. There's no way they would have brought that character back the priestess character back without Angela Bassett. There's no reason especially when indeed reporters from playing other characters on here. She is different character but the okay well. Maybe it was like a underlying of hers or something that that couldn't be in the same kind of deal. I wonder if somehow it'll tie into into roanoke own oak because remember she was that psycho at the end of roanoke yeah but she was a tooth one of the wasn't she the wife in Roanoke the sister in roanoke she was esther but the end she turned out to be a site code and she well. I don't know I think she's just Kinda went notes yes she nuts but I don't possessor being whatever by the ghosts oh I think she's being possessed and it would make sense then if maybe she's been possessed and she's gone onto this. Maybe that's why why he recognized her and said that and maybe the quarter in Colt too so why when she'd be like a talk show I mean could it could carry over to cult or she was. We know that she didn't didn't focusing. I don't know that could be and in Queens in cultural the same character but but Chris Queenie wasn't a Voodoo Priestess Queenie was a witch right and Queenie Queenie a bit in hotel. Yes but you never truly die in hotel. You're around for leave. You can't leave. I WANNA see Evan. Be that guy be home. I guess yeah I thought he was fantastic and so I got but she was. She was fabulous. You know once again if we're talking throwbacks cricket was in Coven was he was in while that season as Quinton Fleming. Could we actually get a cricket a Leslie Jordan Pardon citing that would be amazing. Can we get coke zero sponsor it according according to I._M._D._b.. The answer is no but they've been around before yeah they have. I mean they just you know maybe he's not on the call sheet or anything like that. He's annette new show the the cool kids is he yeah the one about the old people which is really the worst because like you see. What's your old of men but not no? It's like it's like nursing home like like elderly behaving badly or something you could call it. It's like Jack Jack Bleep with older people. It's Eddie Alan will greer on it and looking at him on like they make him look like he's about one hundred. I'm like he is one hundred almost no shut up. He's sixty sixty. He's way over. He's older than me got to be yeah he is. He was born in fifty six research. Emerging market is my inner ghost C.. Sixty two thinks he was in the Wiz. He was the cowardly lion in the whiff they do that. Oh let's the live one yes now. Lavar Burton was no Nipsy Russell. It wasn't Nipsy Russell. Here's the ten minutes Denver Ren- Marine right yeah yeah. Where did this podcast go to water? We're talking about Mr March hotel or talking about the Jordan. We felt other Leslie Jordan Hall again. It didn't sound good freezing season five so to what what is Dennis O'hare wearing this time. Mr Merchant just by either ghost is very funny. That's fantastic so yeah unbelievable so all right what how there's so much we could say we missed in this one but really it. It doesn't matter at this point. Everybody's dead to poison apples. They're all dead well no because I didn't I because they brought them back so there's no bleed die who didn't die one of the things Billy Eichner didn't i. No he didn't die the three which is that are being resurrected. Didn't I right and and Langdon die right and of course candidates and miss me didn't well. You can't technically areas. She's already dead but I know they. This is a reset so that I just wonder whether they're going yeah. I can't tell it all. I'm really excited to get moving on this now that all my papers Sir done for a couple of weeks we can actually get caught up plus now dr who we had to record two episodes of doctor who today we have to more to go we have the Christmas one and then we have the final one or the new one with Jodie whittaker the we have to have done by Saturday for that point free and clear we catch up undisturbed and then we can catch up on last season's disturb yes so we got a little work to do doctor who not only go to Christmas place the blue box escaping elgin but you can listen to Cooper who on the South Gate Media Group. It's my wife my daughter and I talk and Dr Who and I am all emotional from the end of that Dr who whole Jesus Watch leak how the last regular season Oh nice we did not see the Christmas one yet so you saw heaven hell bent no that was last year. No we just watched the doctor falls okay Oh yeah so emotional so anyway between that and then watching this episode where the whole time I'm watching this day going Oh my God one after the other and the whole time with the apples. I'm like they're not GONNA kill everybody. They're not gonNA kill kill everybody. They do this year deal with Evan Peters that but even even we talked about this that it was getting stagnant already and it was only the second season second episode. So what were they going to do with it will obviously they're just going to restart it Evan. We'll be back somebody. He's gotTa be back somebody does He. Why not he's awesome? They're GONNA of course they're going to keep he's. He's in why I know that he had there was all those rumors because he was Franken what he said he was going to be done. Well maybe maybe is but he's in this season. He could be that Frankenstein Monster. He wasn't covent. He could come back that all oil like that. I like that it it lists him. Oh don't look ahead don't do that. No that can't be. Is it okay. We got us up. I just looked ahead. I saw something that makes my heart. One explode and DB Wong is coming up. I'm not looking at the next one L.. These spoilers stop it. Stop don't talk. Did you watch the episode I did. Yes you and and KRISTA video need to shut up. I have not okay well. I saw four 'cause we were supposed to do for tonight right. We are just going. I couldn't do it because Dr who right which is fine so I mean we'll just do that next week but I thought because yeah so he is influencing line and because of the murder house and it was the only one that survived the murder house he's talking about here. There's a chance there's Vance. 'cause isn't the rumor supposed to be this is supposed to be murder House coven and this one all tied together. Yes isn't that what it is. I mean so I mean he's cricket could be back creek could be back what would be great me and Roanoke isn't roanoke tied right into Coven to is it. I don't remember wrote being tied tied in with I. I don't know I can't remember what what did road tie into. Did you did a tight end a freak show because cloud all right well it. Oh No I'm taking hotel again because hotel tied into into common is so if that tied into because I wonder if there's going to be tied to hotel also that'd be sweet it could be is can be the season where they tie a number of the Inter. They give lots of little little hints about all all this does that mean. We're going to get what from junior shares son Chaz Bono Channel One. Hey the Chaz Bono would be great. Oh my gosh please let that happen. Please please let that be reality. I love I loved Chaz. Boto in was a roanoke no he was in no right cult use this last year's grill is so great episode. We haven't covered yet spoilers no early so yeah we covered that. What did I say we have? We have five left from last sees. I don't think that's accurate. I think we I liked no okay. I'm I'm GonNa actually you can do. We can talk about a later. You told me I thought it was something he made up. So Dennis is Dennis is the only character that survive Burger House alive right because didn't so long I know Kathleen and we're talking about it today because we're going over it because I was telling explaining to her. That Langton is Tim Langdon son and she's like but he's dead and Mike Yeah but doesn't mean he couldn't have done it before right right but in the in the in the show isn't he a ghost or at the second half he's a ghost he's he's alive in the beginning and he gets killed and then he hangs around a ghost correct right okay 'cause he's buried like in the garden. Do we know his son will he. Just be a relative. I Dunno the timing would make it right for this when it wasn't morales like the nineties Brady's I don't know also about very house was nineties. Asylum was pre before then asylum was definitely before that but I I didn't think it was a period piece I thought it was current. Current time which it could be that he's his his brother maybe could be Blanca was a rubber man so there's got to be some time with that so yeah so there are five episodes less from for my season Valerie Salon aside for your sin scumbag bag winner of our discontent drinks kool-aid Charles Manson in charge and great again. Those are the five episodes that we have to crack off nice so are we done. Did we cover everything. I think so because I think I think we're just you know they set the table wide open for us to a lot of stuff to happen because you know the witches are going to be. I'm down with this next episode. I am ready for the next episode not tomorrow so we we will tweet out when we're GONNA lie again and we know at least crystal show up and anyone else show up right to us you can see we talk about John The show so we will definitely include you in stuff and I think that's it <hes> last time giving social media Chris Carriers Great blue-box Cafe Blueback cafe one seven six on social media also a Geeks con with a z all right and you can follow me at our southgate or follow the show at disturbed pod find us on facebook. There's disturb podcast facebook page and we are. We try to be active on there. We post episodes now that we're kind of in the thick of things we'll start. Maybe posting spoiler recaps I duNNo. I kinda hate those. I don't know if I'm going to do that. Maybe I'll just make some fun means it. Also Chris just mentioned that murder house was kind of nineties to the present Langton is tate son and I thought it was Payton Connie Britton. That's where I thought it was in the county. Brandon was married to someone else but tate and she had a thing and then had the baby so that is correct. I now I remember. I thought I remember did awhile since I've seen that one and I've watched T._v.. Between exactly I it's weird I enjoyed moorhouse but I wasn't emphatic about it but then what asylum I was all in and then sense asylum I've been watching it religiously. So which is funny I watched all of Murder House. I watched only two episodes of asylum and I saw only one of covet really and then I've watched every episode Sets Covenant Yeah why I've always intended to go back to it. It's just I've been so busy but I would really like us to go back to which you've watched rick and Morty in entirety twice problem okay those are fifteen minutes episodes. You know I would love to go back and do murder house in fact act. I don't think that our show Jeff and Scott covered. They didn't cover asylum no yet he did. They didn't covent they didn't coven coveted was great. That was a great series so yeah we might have to you. Don't maybe we should do is as we always set up a Patriot on and do sure far the first three we ever got three US but patriots on <hes> and you just kind of special there here because I don't think we need to put them on here out of order by things that would be a great way from fans people that are into it. It'd be able to get that extra content criminally Cossio dollar per month and all that that's right that's right.

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Brisnet Call In Show - June 4th 2020

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

59:42 min | 1 year ago

Brisnet Call In Show - June 4th 2020

"This is the net dot com call in show on the horse racing radio network. The phone lines are open. Call now. Eight nine six six H R. That's eight, nine, six, six, four, seven, seven six. Now, here's Anthony Stabile and Bobby Newman. Evening everyone welcome to the net dot com call in show. On the horse racing, radio network on the big a Anthony Bobby. Newman filling in for the Rosa tonight. I'M NEW YORK. BOBBIES in Florida Lido penile producers, an our Lexington Kentucky Studios, eight, nine, six, six, four, seven, seven, six, is the number to call. Bobby thanks for sticking around should be fun. Looking forward to it, buddy lots to talk about and ready to whatever when asked to say. Run happy caller at Belmont. Run Happy Senator Derby at the Great Race Place. Bunch of stakes races this weekend two weeks from the Belmont stakes in a couple of days we'll take your calls. Eight, eight, eight, nine, six, six, four, seven, seven, six. That's why Chris has done. He's dialed the number. He's the first on the line. Hey, Chris Welcome to the prisoner DOT COM colon, show Good afternoon Bobby Anthony. How the heck are you gosh? Are you, Buddy. Hey Chris good. Hey, bombing I. I got sucked into missed. The guy that I thought. He ran pretty well. TAP into win. APPs actually obviously ran terrific. purposes by saying that last year. CASSIE wheel back got stormy in a week at Saratoga. If you guys own tap to win. Do you. Think it out. Swimming ours comes out of the race real good. She think about real in the horse back in two weeks, and the Belmont obviously loves the. or Or. Do you wait until the blue grass waiting to the high school? What would be your strategy going forward if you had this exciting? That's interesting. That's an interesting move Yeah and like you said it's a good point is not shy about running these horses back. You know he's been a very interesting worst. He wanted Saratoga last year on Travers Day. When he broke his maiden, he was on a dead rail. I'm not one that champions that as much as my talking partner Andy Ceremony I. Do believe in track biases, but he. He was the only horse to win on a rail, and they will read was no good the rest of the day. kind of doped them out last time during that mandatory payout picks rainbow six at Gulfstream I made some money with him. That day I think he was going to run as well as he did today. I think the one turn. Helps them and whatever was bothering him? Last year he ran one turning the street sense and he got head into. Whatever was bothering him seems to be straightened out. I'll tell you what his biggest problem may very well be. Charlatan. and. His effort today was good. But he's going to have to deal with trawl on a front and now he won from off the pace in the sprint race. Last time out to starts back. So maybe he can sit off of them but man. Those to knock and heads on the front end. I think. I. Think Brennan Walter My pay for his entry fee. Exactly. Thrilled, And so so so empty. cassie he's been ice cold at Churchill obviously, but he did a great training job with this horse put him away after he got destroyed in the street sense and he was training at that private facility. They got down in Florida. And he obviously straighten them out, but you know I. I said always against deep reds the last race. Who did he really be? cassie really got that straightened out so Kudos to him and I'm excited to see what happens with the horse going forward. Yeah! It was a heck of an bobby today. Johnny, Velazquez there was that sprinter in from the outside that didn't show any speed. Johnny just took it took the fight to them today, and just kept on going. It was a heck of an effort. Heck of an effort. While the other issue is I. Don't think this horses. Triple Crown nominated yet and I don't think he was late nominated. He's I don't know if he can run. I I don't know if he can run in the Belmont stakes or what? What? What? That goes I? Mean so You know that may seal the deal right there, but. I would say probably, and I'm sure. Mama's GONNA roll out the red carpet for trying to get the horse there. A few options for your ready. You know there are a few options for this obviously. I thank you Chris. Thanks for the call as always. Thank you very much for the call good. I'm sorry you know Anthony I mean they would probably love to see Max `field run in the Belmont, because that means races like the blue grass or even the half million dollar Ohio Derby. I know that strange to say could come into play for a horse like tap to win I mean. Why not. And I don't know I. Don't know if he's if they're even if there is any more supplements or what what happens going forward as far as the triple crown but I don't like I said I don't think he's nominated right now. So help probably stay away from these other guys and. I don't know if this horse wants to be going a mile and a quarter. Anyway, it's really hard to say off just this one race, but boy. He looks good as far as being a mile right now. Yeah Eight, eight, nine, six, six, four, seven, seven, six, the number to call Chris, lead things off talking a little tap to win with an impressive allowance wind. Today we saw Gua- return to an a three of the Churchill downs and then Of course, parrot, a big price to take down the tiller against a couple of grade, one winners earlier today in the action, start to heat up now Belmont Park. got underway yesterday. We'll have A stakes race a day. Racing at Woodbine kicks off on Saturday perfect segue next guest. It's Lou from Toronto Hailu. Welcome to the Brisbane Dot Com Colin show. Happy Opening Weekend Woodbine. Oh yes, it's going to be my friend. It's been a long time waiting. That's for sure halfway board. look forward to the start and the person dot up by allowing over a hundred thousand dollars. That's Canadian money right. Yeah, but then you know thirty thirty five for San, so you're still looking at you know. The horse coming up even like tapping capital Inc. coming up you, it'd be so it could be funny. Warm up here. I WanNa, talk to you about foggy. Newman actually the website. How's he coming along bobby? I have absolutely no idea what you're. Absolutely Right that you could open up a website. and. I'll tell you why. Oh, well unfortunately. I'm I going to need you to handle the the dirty work on that because when it comes to programming and Website. Development that is that is way above my pay grade I don't know. I don't know how I can do that how to do that. Okay now that segue coming into that question for you. You remember a Horse I. Think you play called unabridged that WanNa tap on the other day. One and Friday one on Friday. He went off at five to one watt. unabridged I think you gave me. You'll get back. a few starts to go. So I put it in my stable male and I hit the Duggal with a thirty five to one shot at Tampa in seventh grade, and I had a twenty dollars double with him, so I may with the with the exact and two one hundred to win autumn I made nine thousand nine hundred dollars on it and I wanNA. Thank you so much. My friend forgiving me that or semi stable male. Well I. I am happy to hear that you hit it and. If if ever, the chance comes when we get to get back up there and cover woodbine I know I know. It's been a staple on HR and to cover the queen's plate I. Don't know if that's going to happen this year. But I will gladly accept a bowl of Patine in an ice cold beer. Buddy. It's on me I'm telling you man you? I put that horse and I followed it the last two starts from the last of because I remember at a bad start and I said okay. I'M GONNA. Put bobbies wars in my data. Male watched it the next time I he finished third, and then I said they're dropping him in there cutting the just. and. Off and I said today's the day he cut the corner. Bobby and I was like I couldn't believe it was unbelievable. Especially when that sixty to one shot, I'm GonNa end before so thank you so much and I love your show I and Anthony I. Don't forget about you. Man I'm listening Buddy I'm listening. Thanks Lou appreciate three calls. Always, appreciate calling from our the calls from our. Loyal Listeners, eight, eight, eight, nine, six, six, four, seven, seven six. I was. I was an that was a nice hit that Lou made. That's a that's a good lick at Tampa. I, I'd like to I'd like to hit a few more of those Lou hit. That's. Phenomenal so. that. Anthony I was looking at. I know we're going to talk a lot about the stakes tomorrow on the weekend stakes preview, but yeah, I was looking a lot at the stakes both Saturday and Sunday I mean what a phenomenal weekend of racing! Around the country and you know most notably at Belmont Park in Santa Anita and you know we've talked a little bit about the races at Belmont. The Santa meter races have has some short fields, but they're. They're like marquee. Heavyweight matchups. Left and right? What what fun racist to handicap both sides of the country and on both days. Yes or no question about Jeff Louisville's online? Hey, jeff welcome to the prison dot com pollen show what's happened in pal. Hey guys what's going on. Hey, glad about it. Bobby Newman for you today. Yeah glad you got the The the rates is back open. In new. York's then some great racing here lately. I got a pet myself on the back a little bit here Anthony I had a horse stable. and His name pop back up and said he was in and the comment I put in there for the horse was a key race just two key race. I pulled the race up. It was from. February the twenty fifth I didn't even remember putting the Horse in there. But I knew a week in advance because of the virtual, no stable. And that's all I kept telling my buddies. Blah Blah Blah and his name was Change up control. And you know paid thirty nine eighty over Churchill last week. For the chart backup where I put him in under key race, it was the Mardi gras handicap down at fairgrounds. play on won the race hotshot Ns was the horse I bet in. That race ran second. In, the sky ran third I. Forgot who run fourth. change control ran fifth. I played him back off at fifth. Place, finish, and he paid thirty nine eighty I. Look at the chart deeper. Day. Eye in the sky is in Saturday Belmont against newspaper of record. He's twenty two one morning line. I'M NOT GONNA. Let that scare me off. He don't know what great he's in. If there was ever a key race, this is the most key of all key races I've ever seen. You think this horse hasn't shot. That'd be looked. Saturday I haven't delved into that one yet because it was such a big field, I'm waiting to see what goes on with. The weather was supposed to have some thunderstorms roll through, but if you know this is the here's the one thing I will say. If. You'RE GONNA COMMIT To the key race theory. I. Don't think even if it's just a token play Jeff don't let any price or or or condition or feel the you know? Sway you. You know if you feel like this a key race. She's GonNa. Be. She's a Nice Philly to. She's nothing wrong with her, but you know what. Chad Brown has four of them in there including newspaper records. She's GonNa. Slap I got four and they're. Focused on a key race like this what you're telling me I i. believe, that's our I'm not GONNA change my mind from the big green monster. You know the the tote boards, not going to scare me. I forgot another horse came out of there I. Think the same day at Churchill Bell the one she come out of there and paid twenty four dollars. There's been like four next out winters out of this race. These horses don't know what grade they're in. Those, the one was a big price. You Win! By. who did she run by coming down Churchill? She wanted churchhill might have been the same day. It might have been the very same day that change of control. One paid thirty nine eighty Kobe Hernandez only mountains. The day he snuck up the railway. There wasn't even a spot. I mean I. kept telling everybody for a week. Nobody would listen to me. Semaines in my stable for reason I, don't remember putting him in there, but. I mean just pull up the Mardi Gras handicrafts, February. The twenty fifth at fairgrounds and look how many next out winners have one. And they dig prices. We'll do jeff. Thanks for the call is always Yes, she ran down me and mischief and and Break even last weekend at at Churchill Down So. Yeah Bells. One was a big price as well. We'll see if jeff key race on Saturday intercontinental. He's talking about eye in the sky. 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Georgia Naples is on the Line Hey George welcome to the Prison Dot Com Colin show. Hey guys Have you Thursday between the raindrops here in Naples? Sixteen inches of rain in twelve days. PRETTY CRAZY! Wow, Yeah, welcome to summertime Maybe golf soon. We'll get a turf course now Hey. I have a a comment and a question. About the Kentucky Derby and then I gotta give big as props OPT to ask Derosa this next time. I I'm on and he's there. Were Ninety three days out from the Derby. My the way I see it I see the Derby. As an outlier for the NFL. If Churchill can put one hundred sixty thousand people which I'm going to get to that in a second I. Don't think they're gonNA do. Does that send a green light to the NFL and every other professional league. To go because we're right on the edge, it's September fifth. My thought is will be no infield. They'll be owners and families for all day. For All the races, they'll be trainers and families for all day all races and they'll be backstretch employees. And sweets, would be limited and then season ticket holders They can control how many people putting the sweet. Here's the here's the biggest issue. Are you really going to have a piece of blue tape on every betting line six feet apart. Because, those lines are a mile long now. I go to the Derby. Every year of this will be my fortieth year. I. Sit in my chair and bet it on. Express all. Sometimes they won't even let you they block. You and you have to go to twin spires, but. My point of it is. What? I guess I'm asking ninety three days out. Is One hundred and sixty thousand people five to one because it twenty five to one. Is it one two nine? What is it? I don't know. I think everything you said is right. Though I do believe. The NFL IS GONNA. See what happens the Kentucky Derby. I do not disagree with that at all. You know I think there's a chain of events that goes. Let's see what happens with college sports which I do not believe going to happen this this fall. I do not believe it'll will be college sports as fault if that's the case I can see the NFL maybe even waiting a little while to start their season because they'll have exclusivity right. The NBA and the NHL are gonNA wrap up. In September so with that wrapping up in September maybe early October. And not starting for till later they'll have. They'll have the run of the place. yeah, a super bowl in early March is not the worst thing in the world for the NFL because Yeah I. Don't think even go that far beyond with you. I don't think leaving all that far. George I don't know what they're going to. My number is fifty. I think they'll let I. Think the. Fifty thousand in that building, no, infield. Perfectly fine. That's why Breeders Cup. That's what they do for breeders stop. Yep! That's what I have. Are you ready for your profit, bigeye. Yes? Okay two months ago today, you said. It's quite possible in your way. You said it's quite possible on. Never forget you said it. That, we haven't seen the Kentucky Derby, winner run yet, well unveiling Sesana Saturday in the six race at Santa Anita the two million dollar coolmore. So I gotTa give you your proper I'm not saying he's going to be justify. Be hidden scroll. Down to this is. Cool more has pays two million dollars. Are they really? Going to send. A horse like that to Baffert if they're interested in winning the Carter next year. Yeah, that's yeah. so trump's you big I mean. Could this be the one yeah? Chances are won't be, but you know what's exciting to watch a one two nine for Baffert, in a small field on Saturday. That's that's for sure. Yeah. We'll take a look at George. Thanks for the call always. Lots to think about there as far as Kentucky Derby in ninety three days away, just sixteen days away from the wanted, and for the second Belmont stakes. And what do you think, bobby? You think they're going to have a full Full crowd Churchill downs this year. No because even if they allow everyone in I, don't think everyone who would normally go would be completely open to travel and being in a crowd like that as early as September. But I do think they're going to have fans there I think before they even have fans that are going to have media there which makes sense. I think they've. Already been trying to get that allowed in Kentucky I. Think they've been going to the governor and seeing about getting media on the grounds. They'd love to have media there by the time. This, meat is over for Stephen. Foster Day which is a which is a huge day for them. So I think that will get done. I think they will have fans. There wouldn't shock me if the Infield is closed off. But I you know things are just think of how how much of a different place we're in right now than we were two or three months ago now we've got another three months. Before the Derby, so a lot can happen between now and then and things can let up and. I think that there will be fans there, and there will be coverage and it. It will be a big spectacle. It'd be nice on TV. There may not be all the you know the. Forty five minute lines to Tabet Tabet as there were in the past, but I think that they will have plenty of people there. Three months from now. Eight, eight, nine, six, six, four, seven, seven six. Oh, wait for the phone lines to ring. It's time now for the news update and a look at the top headlines from BLOWTORCH DOT com. King Gyro League triple Crown Nominees Rachel winner Kim Gambro runner up in the grade. One Makes Second Arkansas Derby Division One. By the Dalai to total of twenty two sophomore thoroughbreds made eligible to compete in the twenty twenty triple crown with a late three thousand dollar payment. Due June thirty original costs for late entry, had said originally at six thousand dollars. Reduced. 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Bonuses or anything like that where? I see! Other platforms have signed up three hundred dollars to one hundred dollars. So It's not a very good deal to be living in Jersey, and wanting to bet, and in fact, they have monopoly. You can't bet any other. Any other platform. Do you. Think about. I guess it's just legislation in. Jersey I have no idea. All right I made a list of ten. I'm in my late Seventies. I made a list. The ten top jockeys that I've seen race. I Have Shoemaker Jerry Bailey Cordeiro via? Rosario. The Ortiz brothers. Ramon Dominguez Tat Day and in Chi-. Could you. Can you think of anyone else? That you guys might put on that list. Wow I think it's very hard at this point. To Leave Mike Smith off of that list. Yeah, who would you replace? I. Don't you know on these all time? Listen and Steve. Thanks for the call Well I know who I I mean I. Go ahead about who would you say? Hose it? How could you say Jose Ortiz on an all-time list is ahead of Mike Smith at this point. In his career I mean brought about TV that it'd be honest. Yeah, I mean you know these guys just by the amount that they've ridden, compared to Mike and Mike. What is Mike and he's in his mid fifties right now. And he's still winning grade and group. One races left and right I mean. Jose Ortiz. You know I I wouldn't even? I wouldn't even put him in conversation at this point as somebody. Like Mike Smith and it's. It's too early for Iraq I mean he makes Iran makes most of the other guys these days look silly. He so much better than just about everyone. He rides against but I mean he's not head and shoulders better than like Louis Sayas and know I. Don't know you know it's a little too early. For any of these guys. Even Kostya knows at a longer career than these guys I. Don't know if I don't know if i. put them there yet. You know I I'd like to see where they are. At the finished product and there's a lot of big names that. From the past that maybe you're not on that list, you know ten is a tough number to get to. And of course you and I weren't alive when some of the big names from the. Ford Thirties forties fifties were riding, even I was alive in the very end of the sixties, but certainly not a racing fan at that point so it's hard to tell, but I like his list other than that I think. I don't think I would put the Ortiz. Brothers in there. At this point, it's too early. As far as I've seen. Yeah, you know what I'll I'll drop my list and let's take a break halfway home. We'll come back. Eight, eight, eight, nine, six, six, four, seven, seven, six I'll try and put my top ten together. I got like eight of them in my head, I'd have to think about the other two spots. We'll come back more you call. This is the prison that dot com colon show on HR. Prisoner Dot Com Colin show the phone. Lines are open. 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Velox now, this is just who I've seen. And At the time I watched them. Let's keep that in mind. Cordeiro. Angel Cordero. Jerry belly. LAFFIT Pincay. Mike Smith. John Velazquez. Chris Antler. They have automatic spots in the top six. Okay. And then after that so far. After that I think it becomes a little bit more. Of Your. Your taste. Along with a little opinion. and. There are another. Probably six guys. I could put in there. Really like seven guys. That I, put in their. Eight guys. That I could put into list. But for my personal preference. The guys I put into the list. Are Joel Rosario. Arado Junior. Patrick, Valenzuela! And the last spot is really. The tough spot. And if I wanted to go completely off the reservation. It's somebody who probably has not reached his potential to to. off racetrack antics. It's a real far out. He's probably not on anybody. Else's top ten list to whatever in the industry make a top ten list. it would be a Vertebra Royal Junior. Now I won't go as far as to put him on the list because again. You know that's the. There's a lot of your on the come with that guy, and there's a lot of what if that guy? I would put Ramon Dominguez my tenth guy. Because I would to me I wanNA difference maker, so there are some guys on the list that aren't payday. Day is not on my list. Garrett Gomez List? Once again your list is your your reopen fandom. And the Mike at my. Maker is before you. Well so shoemaker retired, I guess in. Did He make nine retired in ninety one. Don't, but he was obviously writing in the late eighties. Right and he won the Kentucky Derby Nine thousand, nine, hundred, eighty six. I didn't see enough of Willie Shoemaker. To, really form and now I'm sure and again. You know. Steve Call with. This list is keeps it. He's in his late Seventies. I'm forty three. So these guys have seen Lafitte road long enough and Angel was here so those are two guys that I did see a lot. I was already covering horse racing for the New York Post. When will feet was still around so? But. So from me. My best is going to be different than a lot of people to me. The best rider I've ever seen. But I got see him through his entire prime was jerry belly. But again I got to watch him. In his prime I didn't really see Cordeiro in his prime. I didn't really see Lafitte in his prime. Right another guy on my list John Velazquez. My father gave John Velazquez his leg up on his first horse in. North America. In in the United States rather. My, Dad gave him his so I've literally watch John Alaska's career from the day he stepped foot in the United States. Right and Jerry. On your list. Gary Stevens would be guy that would go in there, but again I didn't see enough of Gary Kent the storm. These guys at the top of their game. Now if I made a list of if I if my list was the you know. Go Watch a replay. Go Watch this. Yeah, Gary. Stevens has to be on the list. But I didn't see enough of Gary Stevens. and to me, it's not just what you do in the big races. It's what you do day in and day out. That's important. That's very important to me. Right. So Jonathan Fresno's online John, welcome to the person that DOT com calling show. Good afternoon big bobby how you doing today. John Abdomen? None of my man just trying to look back and see how missed late five. Yeah you and everybody else played. Absolutely hey. I like your list just wanted to You just mentioned Kansas warm on a second ago and I just WanNa get bobbies thoughts on this, bobby. You're predominantly. A West Coast Guy has growing up back when I first started racing or being spent fan a racing. I came up watching bill shoemaker. He was I mean for his age, and he was like the Mike Smith. Now he was joses mounts and wrote a lot for Charlie Whittingham and he I mean he was school in the young generation, but the would writer that doesn't get. A lot of credit, who was actually a big money writer? All the time was Chris McCarron. And I know Chris Road for running back lot. And he wrote some really really nice horses, but he's never seems to get in the conversation of You know not greatest of all time, but top x amount of writers for me from for for I own personal preference. I think the raging Cajun when he's right or winning was right he he. He can ride with the best of them, but I would Christie Mack on that list I think Chris McCarron was one of the best and I just both your thoughts I. I don't know big A. If you had a chance to see Chris much, I'm not sure how often eventually out to New York. Bobby growing up out here what your thoughts were! So my thoughts are that when I was growing up and going to the track a lot in the early to mid Eighties Chris McCarron was the guy. and. He, he was the best writer out there. That's still when Pinkai and shoemaker were riding now. Schumaker was obviously in the. Kind, of Heyday, I mean the last several years of his career, and he wasn't riding as much so you know it didn't get to see shoemaker really at the at the height of his greatness, and but pincay was great in the seventies and the eighties of an mccaren. When they were writing together was every bit as good and Eddie Delahoussaye is another one that was very very kind of gets pigeonholed. He gets pigeonholed because everyone just thinks of Eddie, DA, somebody who's coming from well out off pace, and that's the kind of writer was, but that's not that, wasn't it? And those guys were phenomenal, and and you know they would go on to win Kentucky derbies and go on to win Breeders Cup races in the first ten years of the breeders, Cup and things like that, so I agree I mean there is no way that I would put somebody like. Jose Ortiz ahead of Chris McCarron at this point in his career is now he may end up being one of the best writers of all time, and he's a great writer. But he's only been doing it for a relatively short period of time. Anthony I disagree on several these I mean. I would say that. Anthony you'd be in the in a minority of you know with a couple of your picks over like. Let's say a Pat Day who I'm not a big fan of but I mean the stats say it I mean Pat Day was obviously a very very good writer. He just seemed to always win. When I was betting against him in lose when I was betting on them, so I was not a big Fan. You know Gary Stevens. We forget how good a writer! He was at the height of his career, and by the way he did it for a long long time. which I think plays pretty big Some? Some of the other guys that were looking at it I would probably put Gary, Steve I would probably make room for Gary Stevens. I May Bump Ramon and put Gary Steven. I don't know I mean. On the other to the best riders to the best riders of of our time, do they all have to be guys or gals? That road at major circuits? Like Rudy, Baya's or Russell baze fit in to something like that. Yeah, I don't know. I mean again. You know this is kind of like HR and Fantasy Derby. It's your list. Right so here. John, Velazquez. John Velazquez is a guy who is probably not going to be the west coast equivalent of me. Okay? The West quote. Think his name was Tom Quigley. The, west coast equivalent of me. Is going to say. How do you have John Velazquez before Shoemaker Chris McCarron? Gary Stevens and Eddie. Again I have seen John Velazquez ride his entire career. Entire career. Sometime in nineteen, ninety, two, the January of nineteen ninety. He got a leg up on ROCKVILLE centre. In a New York bred maiden claimer at Acworth racetrack on the track. For Tony, stabile for Anthony Acedemy HBO. And Pete Car on the worse. I've seen John Velazquez ride his entire career. And here's something. That's very important to me. It happens. It doesn't happen often. John Velazquez. Wins. So many more photos than he loses. It's not even funny. Like when you when John. Velazquez loses a photo and I'm involved. I am. Crush. I am astonished. Because for thirty years. I can't remember a photo guy lose, but the guy who's photos and. I think probably most famous photo I believe. He was aboard Carson Hollow. That would be the most famous photo he lost, and how far they lose that thing by. An Anti Lash. You Grew A. California, you got ten years on me. You're listening to be different than mine. It's a fun debate whatever it is no question about it. No question about eight, eight, nine, six, six, four, seven six. We usually have these conversations in the middle of winter when the racist kind of quiet We got plenty of good racing this weekend. Give us a call. Let's talk about it. We ten minutes left when we come back. Eight, eight, eight, nine, six, six, four, seven, seven, six. You're listening to DOT COM Paulin show here on HR. Net Dot Com. 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A few minutes a couple more calls eight, nine, six, six, four seven. Seven six is the number to call. Eight nine, six, six, four, seven, seven six. Give me a ratio looking forward to the most this weekend. Man There's not just one There are several, I really WANNA. See the Carter. I really WANNA. See the Westchester I think that's going to be a great race. I actually didn't realize it and. Get through all the Saturday card and say oh. My God, we got a couple more on Sunday, I didn't realize that Mackenzie was coming back and running against flagstaff in the triple bend on Sunday and even though it's short field. I'm excited to see those to go. We get back. We finally get to see authentic and honore. He reemerged in the run. Happy Santa Anita Derby and the you know few other pretty talented three year olds that they get to race against It's just gonNA. Be Phenomenal, left coast, right coast, and in the middle and nonstop action, and there's GonNa be some heavy favorites that. I think you can take a stand against or heavy favorites. Maybe you can land on. There's some question mark type runners. You have code of honor returning. In, what is not the easiest spot in the world? And he's going to be a big favourite We got newspaper of record returning in what is definitely not the easiest spot in the world, and she will likely be favored again. We'll have to beat her stablemates among others. It's going to be a lot of fun. Dan Garden cities on the line hey. Dan, welcome to the person that dot com Paul and Joe. Bobby Mr Money in the bank. You guys doing tonight. A Dan. so I just curious what you guys think you should do handicapping status card credit, Belmont with the old Jason Service sources like I e forensic firewood, they Utah knowing all the allegations of a horse. Where would you put them in there and fussing horses sound right having a tough time trying to figure out what to do over there and I was just curious if we were gonNA see the beast of the Belmont coming out now that we have breakfast on my schedule anyway, guys have ABC's. Areas. The beaches. To Call Zola. Guys? You gotta Dan. The beast is here. beast came in a little quiet yesterday, but the beast is back. Beasts of the Belmont is here five over the last ten. Belmont winners The beast is going to be back in a big way. He's going to be all in on his law. For Belmont, one fifty two. I've we've made that pretty pretty clear on here. Yeah, so as far as Jason Services Go. We saw one winner church dance today, the service and the Varo horses anybody really involved in the march. Ninth Indictments I think you have the handicap the race. And treat it at first like it's a regular train drink. The handicap, the race and say okay. I've Inc. Frenzy fire belongs in the run. Happy Carter seeing the cars in the Westchester again, remember this. Why would assume he's in the car? We're not be Carter he's. Her. Realm cars seven furlongs. Yeah, I don't like forensic fire on Saturday. Because I don't think he is. As good as Performer and mind control. I certainly don't think he's as good as. Those two in a barn other than Jason Service. I believe Kelly. Breen has this is nothing? No knock against Kelly Kelly doesn't very good job. John `field is Kelly's assistant here. In New York son of Hall of Famer, Roger Outfield that born does a phenomenal job. And John, watching, a winter spring up. Here does an amazing job. I don't want anything to do with frenzy fire on Saturday for two reasons one of them being, he's not Jason. Services scare anymore But. More importantly, I don't think he stacks up with performer and his Anticipated ability and mind controls for. Bobby will get your answering a minute. We have time for one more call Rick in West Palm. Hey. Rick Welcome to the prison that DOT com colon show. Hey. Guys, thanks for letting me get in. I wasn't sure I had to catch the last race at Belmont so. appreciate you guys taking my call again. Anyway. I'm. Still Down here in quarantine from you know being up in New York, but my my question is this. With all. tracks that just opened up recently. And Belmont yesterday. and. I've been watching it since pulse stream opened up and then send either etc.. And I'm just curious as to. Why is the total track handle? A little war. Better. And almost the same as though. You know we were allowing customers. Look on-track on-track attendance, therefore on-track handle records dropped considerably over the last fifteen or twenty years. Let's say I don't think that's stops. People from playing I think it's a confluence of things number one people home. Number two you kind of limited and what you can do. And number three. You're kind of limited in what you can do. As far as wagering goes. There's no pro sports going on right now. I think you've seen some people turn over patent Canada from naira tweeted out that last year this Thursday okay this Thursday last year, was part of the Belmont stakes. Festival! Last year the handle on the Thursday card. Was Nine, million, seven, hundred, thirty nine thousand dollars. Cry. Right this year. The handle on the ten race car today. was thirteen, million, two, hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars. And last two years ago on a regular last year on a regular Thursday. The handle was five point seven million dollars. So on an average on a regular car that feature today featured one steaks. And not an enormous carryover that close to one hundred thousand into the empire sick, so you can't even say that. There was a guaranteed guaranteed by the way I said Sunday, Saturday, and Rick. We gotTA. Let you go as we're coming up at the end of the show. I can so naira on a day where they had churchill to deal with. Right and Churchill handle was through the roof as well handled thirteen point two million. People are betting and that's a great thing. Right? People say all racing racing's dead. I'll show you some handle numbers. You tell me if racing's net especially through this whole thing. So We're in good shape. Right Bobby Newman? Well the other thing is racing. You know for basically the last year or so was dealing with an issue. Where that was very very bad. And thankfully that issue hasn't been at the forefront, and whether it's because of the pandemic or other. Issues going on not only in this country, but around the world combined with the fact that. The big problems we had last year with. Safety and Horse Health has. Diminished things have really gone in the favor of horseracing and. Everything you said I mean what else is there for people to watch your bet on Sports Weiser's not a lot yet. so why not? Yeah. Numbers are up. Everything's good. And I find up. Bobby thanks for sticking around is a lot of fun. We'll do it again soon. Appreciated pal had a good time. All, right tomorrow Reverend Radio three to six. We'll have live racing from Belmont Churchill and Santa Anita feels good to say. Heck of a trio that we can stakes preview tomorrow night presented by naira bets thirteen stakes. BITCOIN forum. Saturday morning as well. We got you covered Anthony. Lynn trainer pockets under up in podcast form for bobby and lay I'm the big. At least we all hope you have a lucky night. Hope you went all your photo finishes. Talk You tomorrow at three.

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"This CNBC, podcast is sponsored by capital group home of American funds. Nearly Ninety years of experience helps you say I. Can Partner With this firm to navigate times visit capital group dot com slash market volatility, American funds distributors, Inc... I I'm NBC producer Katie Kramer One of the Voice of behind the NBC podcast Squawk Pot in these times of uncertainty. We WanNa make sure we're bringing you our listeners as much information as possible as quickly as we can. That's why we're sharing with you now. A CNBC special report markets in turmoil listen. Good evening I'm Scott Wapner on day, one, hundred, sixty, nine of the corona virus crisis tonight new doubts about plans pro sports to get back in business as cases spike in twenty one states. Comeback of sports suffering setbacks from the hardwood to the baseball diamonds pawn to the gridiron virus cases still spiking in several states. We have less than two days. Supply a blood, the virus causing a new problem for America's hospitals also tonight. A major Chicago employer. Let's the workers back in. See what your office is likely to look like and. Were intense doing business in Seattle's autonomous zone. This CNBC special report begins right now. Here's Scott Wapner. Welcome it is good to have you with us. On this Monday night we begin with the sports world, facing setbacks as leagues hope for a return according to reports several NFL. Players including cowboys star Ezekiel Elliott testing positive for covid nineteen. It comes as Brooklyn. Nets star Kyrie Irving reportedly said he was against the NBA's return. Due to nationwide protests, CNBC DOT COM sports business reporter Jabari, your US tonight along with mark, Ganassi's the CO founder of Sports Marketing Powerhouse Sports Core Gentlemen. It is good to see you mark to the NFL I. How is this news of the positive test playing out? You think in the League office or better, yet Roger Goodell's basement. and which which holds which basement that is into night? Here's the thing Scott. The NFL fully expected that there would be. Positive cases the NFL players are part of society, so they knew it was a matter of when not if it protocols in place, they've been working with doctors and medical with the Players Association. They're doctors and with doctors all across the country and the CDC and they've got this sudden got this covered. This was now it said the phases isolation then the next protocol. Protocol will be participation, so they actually expected this. They actually specter will be will test positive even in the fall when Games are taking place. I was GONNA ask you. What is the League willing to tolerate? Do you think in terms of a case number? It sounds from you as though they are expecting that these cases could rise in. They're still gonNA play. They are expecting. There will be cases, but they do expect you know. Three months ago we just got the virus just took root and look how much more we know three months later. The NFL season doesn't start for three months from now imagine how much more information image the protocols that will know that are better and how to deal with it that we'll know in three months, so the NFL is going to use this time wisely it's GonNa Learn. What happens with the NBA Major? League Baseball, the NHL MLS on the soccer. Soccer Teams in your even the Australian rugby they're in contact with to make sure that the NFL the NFL players, association, have as much information as they can have the best procedures and protocols, so the season takes place, and if there are players that that get virus, they will be isolated. They'll be treated in the games will still take place okay speaking of the NBA. Let's bring in Jabari young now in Jabbar. We have issues as we said possibly. As it relates to the NBA coming back as well. What can you tell us tonight? Well, it's just the same. The internal friction! Players probably. Did Not were not aware of all of the dynamics of what debt bubble Dannon. Landau was going to tell. They know that the MLS is want beat. They didn't know that a Disney up. Employees were not going to be quarantine is so now you have a whole bunch of questions from a league body. That's wondering okay. What's going on? And what are we going to do? Sky's get tested nothing. Obviously you see God like the White Howard and Kyrie Irving. Having their own issues with going back because of the protests in what's going without country from a social injustice standpoint, they have every right to stand up for what they believe in, but from an economic standpoint, the players stand to lose a lot of money. If they don't go back so I don't think there's anybody around the league right now. Thinking that July one NBA wants to come back. That date is not gonNA still be fulfilled I just think as a matter of. of WHO's going to go on the NBA has made it clear. They're not forcing anybody to go, but if you don't go, you don't get paid so if the players don't go, they just sit out. They don't get paid and I think that'll have their own form of protests. Some are voicing their concerns. That may be going would be better because of the high profile that the players would have maybe Lebron James Among those taking that stand. What do you know about that? Absolutely. That's the platform you when you down in the NBA platform and I don't think the NBA, nor espn a northerner sports which the Games will air on would have any problem with the players expressing themselves and I think if you players right now. Maybe you kind of go to the table you go to the owners, and you try to get more, and you say. Hey, listen you want us to come back. How each owner donate to some type of social injustice organization, some type of economic reform in a neighborhood. How `bout to force the owners to give back. You guys want us to go back down there. You want us to risk our lives you. You want out health to wants to go play Hibachi give back to black communities are more than which doing set initiatives aside use this platform to not only makes a Mega Stan, but use it for economic purposes, because guess what the owner Dan and make a lot of money from the NBA players coming back down and Landau and risking their lives and play. Yes, it. Won't you something back in return mark you alluded to this. The NFL does have the benefit of time. They do have the ability to wait and see how things unfold with the NBA. You think there's a time limit. How long is the League? Do you think willing to wait? and see how these things. Transpire with case, load and things like that. Scott one of the really interesting things about how the NFL handled. This is the having waited for anyone. They've adapted and adjusted as gone forward what they've gone through every step. They need to do the Aussies. They have the virtual draft which was a wild success. They had a free agent signings which fled to Tom Brady, changing teams with tremendous attention publicity. They've had off season workouts on. So with the NFL. It's done, is it? Has It has the? It has justed, and it's GonNa continue to do so and as information and health information gets better and better, they will continue to adapt and adjust one thing I can tell you Scott. There is a really high level of interest for for the teams to come back for the Games take place. People were worried about well. We'll we'll. Come to the Games. The the secondary market for NFL tickets is up twenty percent. That tells you that? The fans are really clamoring to get back to the games to watch them in the states. Let's finally Jabari turn our attention to what's happening with Major League Baseball, which has been a mess from the start in terms of the negotiations between the players and the owners, and there is more negative news tonight with the Commissioner. Telling ESPN that he's less hopeful. That they will actually have a season so here we're talking the NFL moving forward the NBA still moving forward. They'll having a few issues. They need to deal with and Major League baseball taking two steps back. Yeah I mean listen. You have to size. Just don't trust each other you know. The Players Association do not trust the owners and. The suffering more, and they wanNA prove that to the players, but listen the MLB. Okay, just agreed to a deal with Turner Sports. That's worth about three point some point two billion dollars to their new meteorites package. Okay, when that stuff like that comes out, the owners can do not have any excuse. They can claim that they're poor because they're getting all these meteorites so now when stuff like that Lee sell. If you the players, you have nothing to do, but go back and say listen you. Guys want us to play baseball. We'll see what. What happens, but at saint you don't see that you can have any sympathy for the owners. Just get a brand TV. Rights Bill and you have to ask him. Please take. It just doesn't make sense all right to be continued. We'll follow this story Jabbari. Thank you mark. Thanks to you as well. It's not just the sports world facing issues related to the health crisis corona virus cases rising now in more than twenty states, Dr Scott. GOTTLIEB is the former head of the FDA. He's now current CNBC contributor Dr Gottlieb's good to have you back. Thanks, let's let's just play off the conversation. We were just having sports or a tough dynamic in some sports. You're going to have players all in a bubble scenario. In the NFL you are not, you may have fans in some venues, and not in other speak to the dynamic that exists in the worries that you would have. Well look. I think they should be able to put in place, a testing protocol and protective bubble around these players where they should be able to play sports I think the most difficult aspect of that will be getting the players to conform to certain. Activities in their personal lives during the season where they're going to have to limit certain activities in order to make sure they don't come in contact with the virus outside of the setting of playing the sports, but they should be able to do this I. Think the sooner they do it the better because it's going to get more difficult probably as we get into the fall in the winter, but certainly right now as the prevalence is low as the epidemic. Epidemic is subsiding to some degree. They should be able to get back to playing sports. Playing with fans is another question that that enters a whole new dynamic how you protect the fans in the stadiums, but the players themselves. You should be able to protect have enough resources to do that I. Know You're advising many states on how they've reopened. Have you had any conversations with any of the League commissioners or or executives on what the future of sports maybe? Not yet I have a couple of scheduled with the individual teams. Coming up I haven't had a chance to talk directly with them yet, but I would tell them the same thing. I think that there is a way to implement. Very strict testing protocols and a protective bubble around these players. You should be able to limit the likelihood that you get corona virus in the clubhouse and sports teams. Obviously, these players are very close together, so there's one case is likely to be more cases on the field, but I think you should be able to keep it out of the clubhouse so long as you're able. Able to put in place testing protocols a bubble around the players and get some control over what they do off the field as well you let's talk about the current state of affairs around the country. You tweeted just before we came on the air tonight. Some states showing rising cases and rising positively rates, and that suggest expanding outbreaks. Can you expand on what you're talking about here? Right that's exactly right, so a lot of people are saying well. The case count's going up because we're testing more and to some extent that is true. We're testing more, so we're capturing more cases, but in some states as the case counts, go up positively rates, also increasing the percentage of people who are testing positive, so that suggests it doesn't suggest it shows. Shows and expanding outbreak in these states at states like Arizona Florida, Texas Alabama Georgia to some extent, California, you're seeing the positivity rates also up, cases go up, so they have outbreaks underway and they're gonNA have to get control. This Alabama has thousand cases. They've hit. which is a lot for that? State positively rates creeping up Arizona the positive around sixteen seventeen. Seventeen percent, which is quite high, Texas and Florida around seven percent, so these positively rates are going up. They do have outbreaks underway. They have a chance to get control of it, but they're going to need to do over the next week or two, because you can easily lose controls we've seen. There's also the issue of a second wave so to speak or Or whether this is the first wave that was never really contained, you say this is not a second wave. Texas seeing its highest number of hospitalization since the whole thing started, and you tweeted again today, unless states with large number of cases can isolate and target those outbreaks. They could get out of control. How much endangered tonight are we of that scenario? Well Texas still hasn't between take action. They're going to be expanding the number of people that Patriots that they allow into closed venues like restaurants is hard to eat outside right now. One hundred degrees in Texas, but they need to rethink that and slow some of the reopening, because it is expanding in certain cities like Houston and Austin, so they can target measures in no cities and try to get control. Control of this, but this is a dangerous situation. This is not a second wave. These are states that had smoldering infection all the way through. They never really crush their infection, and now they're seeing a resurgence as they reopened as it gets hot and drives people indoors, starting to see the infection rate. Go Up, and so they're going to need to find ways to offset this unmitigated their hospitalizations are. are going up to Texas is adding about one hundred hospitalizations a day right now, which is a lot I think what the governors are looking at are those hospitalization rates and resource utilization in their hospitals, and not seeing their hospitals maxed out right now, even being close to maxed out, but what we've seen with this infection is once it reaches a certain point. It starts to explode, and so once they. They get a certain number of cases in those states you know in dense locations. They're gonNA. Lose control of this, so they need to need to intervene right now. So in terms of the reopening and you write in Your Wall Street Journal op-ed today that public officials need to focus on quote, building public confidence and minimizing wariness. You think they're doing a good enough job to date of doing that. Well? The public's worry and and nobody wants to go back to shutdowns and governors elected officials don't want to go back to shutdowns. I don't think we have to do, but what you need is good information about where the spreads occurring, and you need to target interventions at those locations so again in Texas you finding that the infections are being transmitted in restaurants bars. You take measures to identify those locations in the cities with the spreads occurring, maybe even close them for a period of time, so you target your interventions and not putting a burden on the entire. What we're also seeing that the infection rates are trending towards younger population, so older people doing a better job of protecting themselves this time round, and it's the younger people that are going out and getting infected. We do see a trend towards younger people on the whole, comprising a large percentage of those who are getting new infections. I saw study today that suggested that a mutation in the viruses making it more contagious anything about that. There's been various theories around I. Don't really buy any of them right now. There's no evidence that the virus has mutated. Anyway, that's having. That's giving a different clinical characteristics. You really need very exquisite work looking at how the virus is changing, and how is genetic characteristics of changing correlating that with how it's affecting people and we just don't have that data. It's also would be unusual to see the virus mutate this quickly at a new strain become the predominant strain. And select for that particular strain, the initial strain was contagious enough to really occupy the space. If you will, there was also big news tonight. The FDA officially now, revoking the emergency youth author- authorization for Hydrochloric. When taken that's number one. And then they also said that if it was taken with, desert, could reverse the antiviral impact Hydroxy Clark when this was the drug, the medication that the president himself said he had taken. The. Second piece of that's unfortunate. This was a non clinical studies, so it wasn't a laboratory study. Looking at how hydroxy chloroquine interacts with Desa Vir added, appeared that hydroxy clerk and block some of the viral characteristics of room desert, so probably were patients, who des Severe and we're also on hydroxy, Clark win that potentially potentially could have had an effect where it reduced the potency of their desktop drug that we know work, so that's that's unfortunate. It's why we need to be cautious about making these drugs available under things like an emergency use authorization and why I think was smart that FDA removed that Tae. There really isn't clinical data. Rigorous clinical data that supports the idea that this drug is delivering a benefit. This point has been number studies turned over, and my guess is FDA might have gotten look at some of the randomized data's well. That's going to be coming out and that's what maybe tip their hand on. That's certainly a possibility. Hey, I'm gonNA. Ask you to stand by. We're going to talk about another developing story. What perhaps as a cautionary tale for the United States tonight a new outbreak in China sending its capital city into a new lockdown. CNBC's Eunice Yoon in Beijing for US tonight. Agent says that it's in wartime mode battling its worst virus outbreak since February seventy nine new cases have been confirmed and traced to a major food market here. The authorities have shut the market close schools in the area and put forty thousand residents on lockdown. Seventy six thousand people have been tested with half the capital district's now reporting cases, health officials say the genome sequencing suggested a strain of European direction, and that it was imported state media report the. The virus was detected on a shopping board with imported salmon stores have stopped selling the fish and suppliers in Europe say China has halted imports. The official media is calling for Condo. Saying staying rational will help keep the economy going. People started talking online about cancelling trips planned for the Dragon. Boat Festival holiday next week. China's concerned about the outbreaks impact on its economy. The data for me released today showed a recovery, but not a very strong one you. See this news aging. All right. We appreciate UNICEF's report Dr Gottlieb. Turn back to you, you said today that China quote crushed their virus. But now what do we make of what's happening in Beijing? How concerned are you tonight? Well they should be concerned. This is a contagious virus, and once it gets into dense regions, it becomes to control. There's almost no way that that virus was imported on fish by the way, if you remember back in, they also traced the virus back to fish, cutting boards and the Wuhan Market. It might be more a question of how they're handling their fishing. These markets how people are handling fish, who might be infected, and in transmitting it through their food, handling practices rather than bringing in on fish themselves. There's really no scientific basis for believing that this virus carried a ride on a fish, and that's how it got importer into China. This goes back to the issue. We've discussed for weeks. If not months, and that is what information Dr Gottlieb. Can you truly trust out of China? And how should American? Officials take what the Chinese say regarding new. Well. I think the reportings pretty good right now. On on new cases in China there are a lot of people looking over what China's doing at this point and watching them very closely, so I think we can put some reasonable confidence in the data coming out of China even on the first. Go around with the. Numbers out of Wuhan. Those, numbers weren't accurate, but it was because they were couldn't keep up with the virus in the same way, we couldn't keep up with the virus here, so our number is under reported the scope of our endemic New York as well, but I think we can put reasonable confidence in their reporting on new outbreaks I. Think where where I have a lot of skepticism was on their early reporting when they were aware that there was now break back in December and January and didn't report. report that to the world when there was opportunity for them for China to take more aggressive action as well as other nations, trying to think of all the fallout is going to be from these new cases, not only in the United States, but these outbreaks. We're seeing places like Beijing, and what it means for us here in the United States, even now perhaps come the fall. You've thrown out the idea and I saw you mention this today. The of some countries barring Americans from traveling. If we continue to have out of control outbreaks in some areas. Can you see that happening? I can't see it happening. I mean think about it right now. We probably have one hundred and fifty thousand infections a day, so we're diagnosing around twenty three thousand infections a day. You figure. We're doing a better job of capturing infection. Maybe we were reporting one out of eight infections where diagnosing one eight infections may be one out of ten, so we have somewhere between one hundred and fifty and two hundred thousand infections a day. That's a lot of infection around the United States, and so why would we ban travel from the UK right now where there might be a couple dozen cases imported when we have one hundred and fifty thousand new. New Infections a day already occurring in the United States. I think it might be the reverse and other nations look to ban Americans coming into those countries nations that have largely extinguished the virus for now like Germany like China like South Korea. Like Singapore like Hong Kong because we have more infection here, we have a higher prevalence here. Those countries do about one in two hundred people in the United States is currently infected with corona virus. Something interesting to think about. Let's do a couple of tweets if we could. I one and you've spoken about this before. I believe. Why aren't all the vaccine developers pooling control groups to expedite phase three trials. Well they should be I. think part of the challenges that the vaccine trials got underway at different points in time, so it was hard to use a common control and manufacturers typically don't like to do that because they don't like to run head to head vaccine trials, and so they might have some trepidation on the part of some of the manufacturers but I think it was more of a timing issue. Lastly, why can't or why don't or why won't states breakout cases in nursing homes, prisons hospital workers in meat packing plants. Then the difference would be the general population. Give us a better idea I think. The spirit of the question is exactly who has it and where? They should be. The the reporting has not been good at a state level or national level, another piece of information that it'd be very helpful as breaking out cases by age and knowing whether or not, it's older individuals, getting infected, or it's trending towards younger individuals that would tell us whether or not older individuals are doing a good job of protecting themselves from this virus which I think they are at this point. Yeah, covered a lot. Appreciate it as always. We'll talk to you tomorrow night. Dr Golly thanks. Thanks a lot. Okay, here's. What's coming up on this CNBC special report. A new victim of the corona by risk prices America's blood supply see how bad things have become next and major employer brings employees back see their new reality. It could be very similar to yours next, I our country on Monday June fifteenth. This CNBC podcast is sponsored by capital group home of American funds. Nearly Ninety years of experience helps you say I can partner with this firm to navigate tough times visit capital group DOT. COM Slash Market Volatility American Funds Distributors Inc... Welcome back on day, one, hundred, sixty nine of the crisis. Here are some more headlines on the virus tonight, National Jim Chain Twenty four hour fitness filing for bankruptcy protection. It has permanently closed one hundred locations across fourteen states. It has secured funding to reopen most of its other gyms by the end of June us. Airline Trade Group says carriers will increase enforcement of face masks on planes and passengers that don't comply could have their flying privileges revoked and next year's Academy Awards the Oscars being pushed back two months to April twenty twenty one. The nation's blood supply used in surgeries or other emergencies now at a critically low level Chris. Road is the president of the American red. Cross blood services. Chris good to have you with US tonight. ME, on, why is the Supply Solo? We've seen unprecedented cancellations. From our sponsors across the country since the COVID crisis that we've had over thirty thousand blood drives cancel on about eight hundred thousand donations, not collected as a result of those cancellations, those are both large numbers Do you have any idea when you can start back up? Yeah, I mean we're working hard part of what we're doing right here on. This call is working hard to get folks aware of the shortage that we have across the country. Come out and donate. It really isn't easy process, and we just people to step up. Come out and we made. The process varies safe. They can safely come into our organization and donate, and hopefully people hear the message come out. Is that what you think? The big issue was people were just afraid to come in and donate blood. Mostly, it is again a locations that we would normally go colleges. High Schools based organization businesses corporations. The as as you know, of course, people aren't in those locations as we speak. We've seen the public come out well in in pretty strong numbers over the summer or late spring, the beginning of the summer, but hospitals are really driven up there amount of blood they need about a thirty percent increase in the demand for blood over the last several weeks, combined that with lower than normal donations, and we have a severe shortage. Simple economics demand outpacing supply. Of this I would suppose this virus is so unknown, and it has. It has a devastating impact on on a number of organs in the body. It requires in some cases transfusions. Is that playing into a role as well that these hospitals are just using their supply in the way that they're being forced to treat covid at nineteen. uncovered ninety is not a big user of blood products as a respiratory virus. We don't see a lot of that right. I think principally what we're seeing is the backlog of of surgeries that were canceled for months as a result of a hostile point back in those procedures to make room for potential covid patients as well as just the risk of having those patients in the hospital, and we're just seeing a lot of hospitals across the country. Begin to do those elective schedule surgeries again, and that's just pushing demand back up. What about the issue of of antibody, test, which I now understand the Red Cross is getting involved in. Yeah actually starting today all donors the American. Red Cross cutting across the country will receive a covid nineteen antibody test. We hope this will provide donors with some information about their health status. At least there are negative. They'll know they've not been exposed. I. We also think this might be of use to health departments, local and partners across the country as we get a lot of data. We see thirteen thousand donors a day. So we'll get a lot of information a lot of data about prevalence from or at least from from a blood donor standpoint that we'll be able to share with public health officials. It sounds from the notes that you don't expect the situation Chris to get better anytime soon that your worst case scenario planning. is a year out. They could take a year to have the the level of blood drives and donations that you're used to. Is that right? Unfortunately Where we're hearing for instance a lot about schools and colleges and high schools about twenty percent of our blood comes from colleges and high schools. We're hearing this fall that a lot of those those locations and organizations may not be back on campus or may they may, even if they are back on campus, they may not allow blood drives. We know some businesses as purchased. Some of those coming up on the call. Right are are will be there in the future. Corporations are doing businesses in different ways more people working from home. We're GONNA. Have a long term problem with the way we historically collected blood. We'll be following this important story Chris. Thank you appreciate. It Chris Rota with the Red Cross tonight. Here's what's coming up next on this. Special report. One large office in the city of Chicago welcomes employees back see what they saw next and a business owner who woke up to a brand new reality. Inside. Seattle's new capital hill autonomous zone two minutes away. The workers return seeing what they saw inside the office of a major Chicago employer plus living on the edge, a restaurant owners new opportunity outside, but it comes with major challenges and. The foreign companies for? Doing. Business with the police aren't allowed and we're. Government doesn't matter this. CNBC special report continues once again. Here's Scott Wapner. Welcome back here was quite a day on Wall Street, as we take a look at what futures are pointing to for tomorrow and looks like that late day, comeback is going to carry over into tomorrow morning right now. The S. and P. Five hundred would open higher by twenty three points. The Dow Jones Industrial Average higher by two hundred eleven, points, and the Nasdaq by some seventy two points. It was an interesting day, certainly a steep reversal from where stock had traded overnight, and into much of the day the Federal Reserve coming out and saying that it is going to start buying individual corporate bonds remember it had already made an announcement about high yield. Exchange traded funds. This was another step by the feds. Today. It caused a reversal on Wall Street, and as you see at this hour quite early as you always know, and as I always tell you trading is thin, but right now the picture looks pretty good. Here's what's coming up next on this CNBC special report. Me To restaurant owner, who just found a whole new world outside his strategy, and how close he used to the edge next. Said I'm hungry for justice. Free Valence spread and you heard about Seattle's. Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. Now meet a man with a business inside of it. I our world on the one, hundred, sixty, nine, th day of the corona by risk crisis. The Kramer Nineteen index up stocks rally on Wall Street today's leading components Tele doc health so video shop. Donkey sign decks strong watch mad money six PM Eastern. It's good to have you back J.. L. Is global real estate services and investment management giant with more than ninety three thousand employees in eighty countries. The company reopened its corporate headquarters in Chicago today, welcoming back one hundred forty workers Maryville. Bree is the global chief human resources officer for J., L. With US tonight. It's a show us. The precautions office is taking Mary. Thanks for being here. It's nice to see you. Yeah, thank you. It was a big day today. One hundred forty people as we said coming back. How did it go? It went really well. We've opened two hundred and forty offices globally and seventy nine to date in the US. and they've all gone extremely well. We've taken a very thoughtful approach, very playful approach in inviting place back from our faces. Tell me about it. How does it look when the employees come back? What did they find? What looks different than it used to? Yeah, so we've taken an approach really listening to our employees throughout the crisis, but really I think about re entry as well and certainly safety is a big priority, so we've had to. Really reactivate our spaces making sure that they're. They're clean that that we re US space to make sure we have the social distancing, but more importantly we want to make sure that we also have a warm and inviting spaced from place to come back to so thinking about the human experience giving employees a lot of communications upfront. Our leaders have been great with outreach to our employees, sharing videos with an advanced of what it's GonNa feel like and using a lot of very. engaging. SINU- judge so that when employers come back in, they don't feel awkward about how they sort of move around the space. You know we've been real clear guidance on how they can still be part of the of the workplace. collaborate with their team. Members feel more connected, but doing it still the safe. Kobe Kobe environment given your. You're an HR executive. It doesn't surprise me that you're thinking the way you are essentially about the psyche of the worker who has been through so much, and is now coming back to a changed environment. We all have heard the importance of wellbeing and mental wellbeing throughout this crisis, and we really have to remember that employees, and all all of us sort of felt the impact of the crisis very individually, so as we think about bringing our employees back. We have to remember that we we all are experiencing it in a different way. We might have issues with childcare still with commuting into the office, maybe our own. Own personnel concerns with our health of our of our loved ones, and so our approach to bringing employees back has been one where we do. Continue to listen to them are our leaders of reaching out and making sure that they are flexible and a data bowl to the employees needs. Bring them back into the face, but will you be phasing things in and Wendy think the next group of employees will be able to come back. So we're following local guidance and local government guidance on the different phases of opening as I said we have about sixty three percent of our offices open here in the US the by the beginning of July We would anticipate that we would have most of all of our offices back open, and then we bring employees back in stages, so depending on the configuration of the building and the needs of the of the offices We've got to consider things like know. Spacing employees out staggering start time so that they use it just. Just elevators can be accommodated or actually having people come back of various shifts so that we can invite more employees back. It's still have them safe in the space and be able to do the social distancing. You had some employees who were actually on the waitlisted. Come back because they were looking forward to going back into our opposite. You have the benefit of having you know going through this now before. Perhaps some other largest cities are are doing. What advice would you have tonight for other for your? HR colleagues perhaps in other big cities. Yeah well. Let's say and listen to your employees that we did a lot of outreach during the crisis, and and in planning re entry stages with our employees, and really learned about what was important to them how they're feeling about it where their concerns were so that we could support them in a way that brought them back store spaces again to feel more connected to feel more aligned with their their colleagues and more productive, actually back in the workplaces to hear your story, and we will continue to follow it Mary thank you. Thank you all right. That's Mary tonight with J. L. L.. Stephen Brown owns a chain of bagel shops in Seattle. And when the pandemic hit, he grew his delivery business sales were better than expected. Then he found himself at the epicenter of the protest there tonight. L. Tana owner Stephen Brown describes what it's like to do. Business surrounded by protesters in Seattle's Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in his own words. Were at the. Center of Capitol Hill where every night people gather your thousands of people for a few minutes. I thought shy call the board in company. Put up all the boards excited now. He wasn't what we wanted to project. And, so we're now the knowledge, the only untagged business, the only on borders, the barricades for the police were intense, impenetrable, double layer on all four sites are southbound coming in the morning, and they might even have trouble getting into turn on the Evans. Because the police officers who are on might be in the mood to argue customers call us sometimes. The phone would be handed from the customer to the police officer. Steven Profile. Tana. Please let. Daddy device fits, and now it's just kind of peace. People walking around peacefully a lot of people living in tents. They don't come in and order bagels spreads. We take out bags and spreads nine spreaders. And we do that every morning if you walk into. Said I'm hungry for justice. You get a free Bagel and spread anytime any day. If you make a donation and just show us on your phone your receipts. To twenty five dollars to any number of causes, black lives matter. You get a free half dozen bagels. We're blessed with a product that is both delicious and relatively high margin, so if somebody watching the big on spread. For free that makes us. And Brown says that to his surprise this weekend, his Capitol Hill Shop, so its highest volume of walk ins a since the start of the pandemic tonight's top stories, including breaking news for Major League, baseball and restaurants across America cooking throughout the crisis. That's next. On Day one hundred sixty nine of the crisis. Here are the latest headlines Tonight. The Associated Press says it's obtained a letter from Major League baseball that says several players and staff now tested positive for covid nineteen follows a report earlier tonight that several NFL players, including star of the cowboys Ezekiel Elliott did as well the FDA removing its emergency youth authorization for malaria drugs, hydroxy, chloroquine and chloroquine saying they're unlikely to be effective. Effective in treating covid nineteen, the agency, also warning of potential interaction between the drugs and the antiviral treatment, rim, desert, and the Dow rising one hundred fifty seven points in a late day. Comeback looked like that's going to carry over to the morning. Southbound Barbecue in Rockland County New York reopened with outdoor seating last week. Problems for the restaurant, though did not melt away. Pete Mason is the owner. He joins us. Live Pete Welcome. It's got how you doing I. Know You waited? I'm well. Thank you know. You waited a long time to reopen when you did. What did you find? You know we had to do with a little bit of a shift. We were trying to take out in the delivery only. So! It's Kinda like a retooling of your entire business all the muscle memory that existed for all of your staff. To kind of shift to this. Take out business, and then now. This staged comeback that we're doing. We opened up outdoor in face to at the beginning of this week. It was great having people back in the restaurant however. It definitely was not the snap your fingers and everything's back to normal of business, aside from the fact that you're dealing with a lot of issues now you have to run basically two businesses. You're running an on premise business as well as a takeout delivery business at the same time trying to bring your staff back I didn't get a lot of my staff back yet. And it's. It's very challenging so using everything as single serve. The Santa Claus the masks the distancing. Everything else and this industry we do have one been. Fit in the fact that we have to have sanitary protocols to begin with, so we kind of are ahead of the game versus other. That are trying to open up right now. What? What's your normal occupancy versus what you're able to do now? Well, we do a lot of outdoor business in the summer our size basically doubles for the summer weather contingent so right now. I'm I'm. I have legal capacity for ninety eight seats. Right Now! I have thirty eight normally on my deck right now. I have twelve. So, it's very difficult. Sustainable business you able to get a Ping Ping loan. Did you apply we did we actually applied when they first came out with it? In the first round, we did finally get some capital. Had we not gotten that capital to help cover the payroll. We wouldn't be here right now. It was an arduous process. Obviously, you guys know everything was changing. Forget daily basis. It was changing on a minute by minute basis. my bank We jumped through major major loops. But we were able to get the loan. That's good to hear and finally as if it wasn't enough going through everything that you've been. We've been covering and you've been dealing with the issue of rising beef prices. The with the supply chain has been. Ridiculous to try to deal with when this whole thing started, we were The spicy really didn't get hurt that bad, but. For a while there about three week period I when I could get work. I was paying forty percent more for it when I could get brisk I was paying eighty percent more for it now. And I can't raise my prices because I still have to attract customers. The ones that are less. So in a business that has razor thin margins to begin with. You know this. It's to be rough I. Think in this reopen. You're really actually going to now start to see a lot of these places. That survived a lockdown. Now. They'RE GONNA start to fail because they're not going to be able to. Speed up ramp up staff up and still provide a guest service experience that people are content with. Well hopefully, people will see this or they'll hear about it. Though wants and barbecue, and they'll give you a shout I appreciate your time very much Scott. Thank you so much. Then you take care that's and joining us speaking of restaurants. We'll give our shout out right now. To those operating in the face of the crisis, the Columbia in Montville New Jersey the morning four in Sacramento California Dane is bakery in Pittsburgh. Frenchies chicken in Houston and Juju Vegan in Lincoln Nebraska, and you can tweet me at Scott Wapner. Use the Hashtag, thanks for the GRUB with the name and the town of your favorite restaurant. Send us a picture well I. GET IT ON TV. You can go to CNBC DOT COM for up to the minute information all night long on the markets and the virus. 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S2 E8 John and Kate Plus Motorcycle Part 2

American Road Runner

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S2 E8 John and Kate Plus Motorcycle Part 2

"I. Just want to wake up every day through a leg over my scoop, penrod? roadrunner. American Red Tanner. On road or off road, rancher, rather racer or just a weekend warrior. This is the show for you. You. Sound us, my fellow. Welcome to the American Red Rounder podcast. Your host Bob Marceau. Welcome back my fellows. This is the American roadrunner motorcycle show season two episode. A this is part two of Jon and Kate Plus Motorcycle. Well Hope Y'all are doing well. Hope your health is well. Hope your family's health as well. There's always that white elephant in America today. A little something. We called Cova. I gotTa Tell Ya. I work downtown and I'm surrounded by people. Needless to say I'm always masked up. If I have to go in the jail, which I do a few times a day. It's double mask is also sorts of crazy stuff. Everyone's taking my temperature everywhere I go. It's made laugh a little harder as I can't imagine. It's done for you as well in whatever you may be doing myself as a mechanic, I did not get time off. We've had some mandatory overtime. It's been very busy. It's been very different, and it's really throwing a wrench in life as I know all of us. Had some pretty big wrenches thrown in our lives lately. So whatever you do to take care of it whatever you do to do it I hope this podcast gives you something good to enjoy nice little story here and there that's how we learn from each other human beings through the art of storytelling, and that is my favorite part about doing this show rotten books whatever I may do, it's all about sharing stories, and as I've shared my story with you through my published book American roadrunner our enjoy it when other people share their stories with me, which I turn onto you in this audio show. The roads been a lot of fun I've gotten to go a few places. Places, but nothing too in depth and nothing too exciting, because it's hard to travel now unless you're on a motorcycle and don't need much, so it seems like the ride. One K. days have been real popular. Everybody's real excited just to get out hall, but as long as you don't have to use the restroom, you may or may not be able to get coffee or food somewhere. You just gotTa. Take everything with you. Hit the road and enjoy it and see what happens. Yes, it's different. Yes, every state is different, and every road is different, but sometimes that's half the fun, so hope find a way to throw leg over your machine. twit, some throttle and enjoy your road. In the meantime I haven't gotten out too much. I've had a few good things going I did get out to a party over Beulah. May's house It was great to hang out. Catch up with everybody. few ex-girlfriends a new girlfriend Then Beulah May, of course. She's the love of my life, so that was very exciting, but good to stop. Catch up, relax knock it too close to people, but enjoy some good food and some good stories sharing so that's always exciting other than that. I got busy and finally decided to purchase a writing shed. Not Me Riding Chad like riding a motorcycle I mean an actual writing shed. It's a twenty-seven foot freaking travel trailer, and I can pull it behind my truck, or I can pull behind my excursion, but right now it's sitting in the back yard with the awning out and I hooked up all the lines, so it's like a full on self contained office where I get to write typewriters all over the place, the whole nine. Nine the reason I bought this particular one is because I can fit a motorcycle through the door, so will hall a motorcycle for me, maybe a rabble, maybe a nice cafe racer, not my gold wing Maybe a chopper I don't know I haven't had too much fun with it yet, but it's nice to know. I have options because I do plan to retire in a few years wants a house is paid off. Off I'm just GONNA, rent it out. I've got a big backyard I can keep most stuff, and I just want to hop around found home base, so if you happen to be my friend and live anywhere almost likely be pulling an RV up hanging out for a few months Raton. Some good stories and enjoying some laugh are maybe I'll just hit it all on a motorcycle. Who knows all I? Know is the future. Future is exciting, and until we can get back to racing after all this Kovic stuff as I'm sure a lot of you know or have heard most land speed racing's been canceled. There's been a little bit flat track race in, but not much half. sturgis is canceled. It's just one of those years where the events are cancelled, and all we can do is go out and find our own road and all of it. So let's get to it. John and Kate we're going to be talking about Rod and cross country inside cars, some veterans charity rides his service with and for our country the work he does with veterans. Shooting photos from aside car and raising awareness for loneliness and depression. This is a good little part in joy and don't forget coming up. Headlights on enjoy the show. Road trip. Of America I mean it's it's GonNa be a good one. Be also thing in it's. Not GonNa be great the entire time and I'm ready for. The ups and downs. And and whatever comes up and just being present with that right, the when journeys suggested nation being present period whatever comes up. And that's one of the reasons. I think I can always off without her staff. Immune must be. Is that general attitude? It's A lot of people if they're uncomfortable and you're the one pilot by your vault, but. Not that kind of person. Well like I said I've written pilot here lot. As I currently hold the record. Did I mentioned I hold America? Online mentioned. That's why it's called pilots here, not anything else. You'd say well bike. Are you taking still working on that? Okay? Now is getting excited. Yeah, definitely want it to be aside. Hodges for the Extra Space Ryan's. It helps although sidecars handle horribly as far as I'm concerned. I was wondering race They're greatly. Traction sucks. You cannot fall over when you're in the mud on sidecar stunning and you might need a shovel to get them out. But like Hindi see the cops ride year round. It's knows there's ice. But aside Com Harley for certain months. To get around, and that was one of inside cars popped up back in the day. The main reason people couldn't afford car. You had the wife and the kid picnic basket somewhere on Sunday, he got a sidecar. Yeah, but I think it's better to have more space We've done three four five eight traits him between the camping gear to close the days yet it does fit and you could do it. Definitely can do people out there doing right now. Yeah, I'll on bigger by suggests BMW's. But the handling of the biking so badly have that much weight on the back, basically hanging on you like sitting on gas tank from you'll traction driving down some flat dirt road on the way to a campground, but. I'd rather have a car. You drive and Sloan up. The mileage doesn't hurt and you're still getting thirty five miles per gallon on a bike. That might get forty five fifty I'm friends with and work with Dave Fry at the veteran's charity Ride Net, Moab. They've got. Some sidecars the sponsored by Indian champions cost like six or seven different outfits that are. Indians those are Indian advice still. So. I don't think I can use one of those but he's got a euro sidecar. And then there was a nineteen ninety golden. That was donated to him. That has its you cedar in motivation Sidecar on a man that'd be that'd be the cat's meow in my opinion, but I love my old ways so. I actually buried it out for him. It was in. The guy lived in the housing. Right next to the with Sega. That's great. He was an army veteran sell, and that's what you wanted to donate. A veteran's charity Ride Day Taking the Namiki that's GonNa. Be Ride to sturgess every year. Point fifteen and They used to be in California right all the way out. Abbas you so huge in there the reception on the way they treated us, and like the mayor came out, Sheriff came out the Fire Department, came out of. He wasn't the time we come in on Thursday still be like eighty to one hundred people hanging out to welcome the veterans at some part. You know sometimes it was raining. Sometimes, it was hot income. Every year I've done it three years now out of the five of the doney answer based in Moab now since our visa July fifteen. So the ASTLE late, may or June? Veterans Jd ride happens about the last week of July August as they write a sturgis rally. And it makes sense to head out there. Help them get the ride. Reagan White Service. Get everything set up. You know as far as love being the veterans that come in get them familiar with the bikes and I'll I'll do the ride. I pilot the the hammer bike. They have a photographer for the ride Sarah. Liberty and she's been. She's been there. I think every year. Jesus got more mild than that side carbon. She's been doing longer with a good team off the talker so I kind of know what she yeah she wants. She'll be hanging off the side car like one leg out ready to fall. You have gotta be really smooth, but I can look and see what Lindsey has, and I know how close or how far away so it's. It's great because you know as a veteran myself get that motorcycle therapy. You're out in vain, but you also get a serve. Veterans have a lot of a shopping me. I was in combat, but I wasn't blown up I've you know they shot a couple more examining here and there so? There's just people have a lot worse. There's people that. I mean even just. Vehicle rollovers. Lot of people that the ninety often blew up their truck. What? They were completely okay. They weren't actually completely okay. If you're blown into the air by explosion, it compresses your sly man. A Ti from the concussion and you're probably going to get permanent hearing loss. some of the guys lost their lower legs just slowly because the spine damage to step accumulating scar tissue eventually made him over the years, and these guys can hop on right aside car. You got ones that have the the rear brakes over so think of bicycle from break with clutches sure, and then released sponsors has a centrifugal clutches, the hand shifter, and they can ride around dot aside car, lot of guys, single amputees, and they'll be missing one leg, but they can still balanced. And you, even though those heavy weights reload preview. Keep them from San. The riverside down. We'll probably take a trip. either from malevolent green, the bikes back, or maybe just straight from sturgess, and that's why commodore clockwise it'll still be summer. Handle be warmer, and then by the time I get down to Florida. It'll still be recent and I hope you are able to get up into Colorado before the snow comes in, but you never know that one. That'll kind of take where we finish off, but. I definitely want it to be more. The vacation. I think it's. Not The exploration into yourself. And I definitely want that to. Translate passed me. Plans to write a book and all that but. At the same time, no matter. How did you right above your? Really it's it's a fairly aegis goal. Then, you're you're right about the same. sort were still working with the concept right now, but just An issue that is not just a veteran issue, but a human issues is loneliness, and that eventually the depression suicide. And so I want to be able to stop Austin spots, I think people forget especially as we're more connected on the Internet. Were more alone. Is Connections artificial? People checkup on you by sending you a private messages air. You okay, that's not going to help with the press person. And is the human contact have day to day. You know I know times in my life where I. Didn't particularly matter guide I'm probably still alive because you matter of other guys. Why bother killing myself I was at leading NAFTA press. and. I want to be able to raise awareness because we don't talk about loneliness. Suicides thing we can deal with like a medical problem treated like a psychiatric condition. If you have suicidal up, you can take a pill and talk to some. But loneliness affects a lot of people would sort of like the working poor, you know they got a job and they're paying their bills, so they don't need government systems, but they're Louisville paycheck to paycheck, and they're gonNA die prematurely from las stress, and most of the country lives like that, so nobody wants to talk about it, because not all member what he's doing that. That doesn't mean it's not how. I meant Iraq war or still problem wasn't wasn't normal. And I definitely have the right to have a bigger reach. I WANNA go to. You. Know both homes. I WANNA go to shelters on I. think that's part of why we want to go to some Buddhist. Temples and stuff I'm not particularly religious, but definitely view thumb. When Change Your own world world around change immediately. it's just so. It's so simple to do, but it's so hard can think your way into it. Common Intellectual Guy I want think my way into everything like bites. You know needs air. You'd spark needs fuel. It's not starting. I can just start at the front work. My way back and you know sparked sparkplug. humans. Impressions, not like that. Everything. He wants to be oppressed and I think that's really. needs to be talked about more so that it's not. Constitute Weird ask your buddy it. Working man's lonely. Like, what you? Want to date I've got. One Yeah and it just it shouldn't be. Going through something. I definitely want the trick to help bidders story than John and kate gossip time off. wrote a motorcycle around. That's a great story I love reading stories. Is this more than occasion? The search. Yeah, with and we've talked about that. third element I refer to it as a third elements any story. What's the benefit? Must Benefit of human. Race the human race. Good for you I'm looking forward to unit. Yes, still putting accounts at bath, but also to the the looser year plan, the better you are, receipt world. Can you as a lesson? You're out there trying to find the answer than you're disregarding things that are Horlick the answer. As I. Sit around. Wait for the truth the truth Fox door say go away. I'm waiting on the truth Robert. wouldn't send in his echo. Very appropriate one that quote. Ever wonder what happened to the music used to play on the radio. It's now available and virtually commercial free for your ride, dirty radio, FM. Get the APP today and enjoy it streaming or download songs to your Heart's content. Dirty Radio FM is free and the best way to enjoy music through a senator like Bob or with ear buds. While you're on the road, DIRTY RADIO FM. Get the APP today. American road runner brings you a roadrunner in the headlight. Shout time to those fellow Rodman. Canadair's where starting with a two rider rod rider, one of two sinister clutch on the Graham knocked out this Glorious Midwest Radwan K with a friend who logged is miles and time at at one thousand thirty four miles in sixteen hours thirty five minutes. Great ride, boys, he rats myself and my friend Anthony Road from northern Taki to coma. South Dakota. We began our ride in the middle of the night at approximately two forty, eight am and made. made it. This was the longest ride we ever encountered, but we were lucky to have such great weather. Most of the way the only mishap was my buddy losing his tent sleeping bag fishing. Moore's and the rest on the interstate. We never saw rain, but it did get chilly at times. As part of our ride, we rode to spearfish South Dakota next day to camp and fish. We couldn't have asked for better weather and enjoyed every minute we had in South Dakota Dinger's onto you because I cannot fit a motorcycle in the studio. And Onto Ryder number two of this epic journey at cool underscore. Arrow score customs knocked it out. They rat cranked up the FAB. Boy At two thirty in the morning filled up at the local gas station during our early morning dark ride, we hit a few deep potholes causing half. My crap to fly off didn't realize until the third re-fuel. Screw it. All we can do is jump back on and enjoy the ride. I didn't realize how much of an adrenaline rush of a ride we were facing until we had already reached amd past the halfway mark. We, did hit some heavy wind in Iowa and I realized how fast the winds were when I noticed my buddy's motorcycle outta slant are one rod, put us out in Chamberlain South Dakota where we sat up in a cabin there and enjoyed some old boss Burgers and several cold beers. The next morning road out spearfish did some radin through dead wood and shy and. Did some fish for trout and Cheyenne where the waters were indeed cold after few days out in spearfish, we headed back to Northern Kentucky where we lucked out and didn't have to ride and rain. In short, it was one hell of a trip with a good friend can't wait for the next Radwan. K stay safe out there on two wheels. My fellow one cares well written well done. Gentleman. Next up. On the Graham at Garrett, king crushed this one K. loop with some glorious scenic roads, one thousand miles exactly one thousand miles in one thousand nine hours eleven minutes look like Garrett had a very enjoyable ride and has already planned for the next Garrett riots Thursday night I was thinking up. We can plans and decided I wanted to do a one K. I dusted off the windshield in the rafters and clipped it on. On and put the seat back rest to complete the middle aged dad by a static form, follows function Friday. I mapped out a route and check the forecast and hit the road. Four thirty am Saturday morning. It was really awesome. Watching the sunrise in rural southern Iowa ripping back roads, and the weather couldn't have been better. A hit the ozarks and Mark Twain. Forest Midway and that's when the real fun and adventure began. Once I got into the forest. All cell reception and GPS was gone, and it was just me and the nostrils roads I've ever ridden. I was completely lost after an hour or so on these roads, but knew I was about halfway done and needed to keep riding north and east to get back on route, which is easier, said than done in New Territory with no landmarks, and the Sun right above you I was lucky enough to run into a couple of Africa gas station, who happened to be headed to Saint Louis which I knew. Knew was on my route, so I tell them until I could get my barons Saint Louis where the fun stopped, and the pain began, the Sunburn was setting in real NAS. Basically, every part of my body was sore and stiff. By this point, the three hundred fifty miles back to the moines was all about crushing it as fast as I could an hour from home and I couldn't stop smiling. Knowing I was going to accomplish this feat and thinking about planning for the next one well done sir. We're ringing the bell for you. And Let's get back to the road with Bob Marshall and the American roadrunner podcast mixed up. Typewriters and motorcycles. Rotten's and feelings on audiobooks and those old paper books enjoy Mello's. So the big question. Will you be taking a Tabora? Depends on it! I love that type revenue I do page day at least in Avangard gonads cool. Yeah, I'm gone, I do you know two pages of gone to make up for that and It is a great thing. Hearst thing I used to be on the morning was get caught gonNA check email. Susan check email sidetrack and your your most created when your mind's clean just woke up so that typewriter open and he doesn't have any update, formula. Just sitting, being typewriter woody groupies paper. I don't even charge battery on gotTA. Plug it in I don't have to clear fifteen notifications to get to the part of it that he's a typewriter like most cell phones as they do everything. You forget that you have a foul in it. Processing computers. At some typewriter, some visceral to buy the keys in, didn't that sound tactile analog and I honestly I type on it so often that because the apostrophe they must not use the possibly back in sick very often because it's not the whole ship he hit. Eight ragged a posture beyond that drive, and obviously possibly just right next to the return. He on his board yogurt. I saw I ended up hitting shift all the time when I hit the apostrophe when I'm on my laptop, so actually typed so much on Adam. Typewriter I'm getting used to the keys a like convert back when I'm in Laptop Mogi. Work Yeah I. Forgot to warn you about that I do the same thing we'll. We'll tell a little bit backstory John was gonna Carnevale I was going to turn bill on my great I'm really excited to meet him, he goes. He said wait. Typewriter so while the listeners out there. Yes, I've got a bad habit of. Selecting beat up top riders rebuilding them. They are pretty but boy. They work extremely well, and so. I took pictures of a few of them, said well sure. Which one do you want and he goes well. Which one I think it ended up being. Walls pass one I don't remember. Can Start. Have Women Yeah from the early seventies I think I know it's got a one on it right? The number one. Sure, yeah, well great great machine, and I knew it would put up with the beating, and we're getting ready to leave their Malala girls and we have in our. Stuff in echoes. What's that what we're all going for the legion? Why are you bring a typewriter? No, no I'm giving you know. John's picking this up for me. It's GONNA be Great. Oh Gosh. You know I mean it's just nerdy as the nerve, but. I'll tell you very few things exciting for me as travel around of the top. Because what it does is, it forces need to look at this nine ten twelve machine that I brought with me on a motorcycle. And say I've better spent an hour with us today. 'cause I brought this machine up. I only have two days where the clothes instead of four days because of this machine. And it's it's a good excuse, Sanders. I mean there's enough hip story out there that have videos them grindings slow motion on a motorcycle and talking about the sand in the purity. You've Being able to work with your hands so I don't Wanna get live romantic about it, but it's something simple about being. In front of the typewriter typing just doing typing. You'd say a lot. Motorcycles lot likely on the bike smartphones in my pocket strategies mean road not thinking about. Work or anything on the bike free Tech Writers are necessarily that Romantically. Has that same ability where you're just? You're just hiding? It's not GonNa be you have pessimism you just. It's just you and the page. And when you're done with the page, you actually have a physical piece of paper. Like I accomplished a thing. I wrote a page. in I, can type just as many words on the word processor. It's just screen, and you just say page up and page down. You wrote. A page wrote for an hour. I've asked Word Count Anyway. So you're all I'm only at six hundred word. They need to do more words so all the extra features. Held Lot, but you know everything every plus some of the downside. Key A lot. He says a papers and stuff. I ended up having to do a lot of writing a lot of it. Is Scientific APA STYLE Because of Psychology Major. So that is new. or Creativity. But I do journaling. Yeah. Cuba, vote the gentleman's. Private. Thoughts and feelings is weighted tenants. Get. What's going on inside? Interesting me up outside and. And that is just few for me. Yeah. What would probably be the better ADIA. Guises adventure out. During an. AD. As opposed in Journal as opposed to the dive writer, she got this. Really cool thing called the passion planner. It's like it's just it is plan. What has you know space for notes, thoughts and and gold, and so it's like. It's useful in organizing and all the ranch stuff, but it gives you a bunch of room for notes, Elands, who you met, so, I wanNA take one of those out and just have notes of where we are physically so the. Eye Anita Research of this for us so I talk about because the only read through it and I I didn't stop to read anything. I also want like I. Felt this way. I think a tricky. What about writing a book about? See went through the journey had the answer and so when you write about yourself before you had whatever that moment was. You got to get back into that point. Where like you about stuff or you haven't even understanding now? The have the the person reading. The book haven't gotten to the end yet, so you'd be able to write from that class. You're in adding notes like the only way I know. You're right handed. Aren't you all your left hand? That's this as a fellow left-hander ice near I. Think you do that on top of right that don't you remember when you were interviewing me? Mentally other way that's right a little weird style. It really works. Yeah, no it and that's why I got. So heavy into using typewriter machines, because it's so much faster and easier. It works. Rhode seems to be offering. You guys just a ton of new adventures in that. What do you think well who who direct for now? freelancer what I would say, ninety nine percent of the time all right per a rust, Brown motorcycle attorneys. Their blog is pretty cool 'cause they syndicated out the other magazines, so you're not just writing. Her blog actually have to how little bit of Standards Laws Pretty Do. I've done some blogging. It's like you know five words. If boxing bucks hammered in Israel Sembler, line more about. Like search engine optimization than writing a compelling story back. They don't even call it right. Call your content creator or a content provider rat like you're not even a writer. Colin MECHANICA automotive technicians who need that's kind of solving. Hands yet, the artisan. Of trouble. Book follow the troubleshooting tree. Chest pain one of pin to look for oems of A. You don't even know why you're doing. And So Rust Brown basically Adl say yes to anything that I pitched them in Vita. phoebe great work. That's how I found. You got interviewed. VELOCE! How gotTA? Interview allow really cool people. That twenty exhausts it just people that are in motorcycling than indifferent facile artists, some of them mechanical creators race promoters, but they all have who'll stories about. Know when your passion took over, how did you? Find make the change I'm GonNa try to make money my passion. That's a scary thing. A lot of people want to do on the side or a lot of people do a version of it. You know if you like to build custom motorcycles, but work to. You know a MIDAS. While in. Ins a ten year old. Toyota Corollas you're not necessarily. Yeah, you're working with your hands, and you're working on vehicles, but some people that re- grabbed their passionate turn into a thing that takes a lot of especially. You have a job that pays well Oh. Yeah I feel I. I don't mean to I. Have a job pays will. Pick! and. It's been a lot of fun to get out and race, and obviously it's been a lot of in the last several years to share those stories. With American road runner, you know the blocker. Will blog or the brand or the La La la, but that's why I really enjoy doing this show because. Abel's me to enjoy more stories. Excited about inaudible format instead of a written format, really which is great lease, the medium that's I write songs to writing stories is a year off. Is You don't you don't have? To a book. That's you could try. He can triumph. Ella. Lot of Shakespeare's plays. Ryan I guess any language Roman. Yeah, let's not mention it because then it'll be a theme like. Being being tap your foot. Yeah, it's not. It's not gonNA worker well. Although I'll tell you what. I read my own book and I've been producing that audio lately. In kinda gets into that. Really making a good rhythm out of it making sure I have to make sure that I'm really not a good rhythm and I have to make sure of I need to add half a second here because I didn't you know ten minutes go by, and I messed up and had to step back, you know. He's a lot a lot more to it than I ever thought possible. I listen to audio books on the bike. You like the most of the reading that I do is audio books just? Sixteen chapters on the way down here and the rain. On some woke about packing the human mind, rat right and it was really cool we probably would have taken a year to get through sixteen Japanese reading because I'm always reading five books than magazines and blog posts. Come in, and then I read my own writing. So When do audio books the especially? If there's multiple versions like like I did the great gatsby recently you know, get a little, read some of the classics and. Eight different versions available. By the way, public service announcement, go to your local library. Get a library card. Go to your local library holy. Heck I got my library card. I get it online and just print out the receipt. All the guy had to do it. Hemion card and all the information was there, and now I can go to overdrive and get free audiobooks all day long I rations Li listen to audio books, but like I said with the Great Gatsby views There was like eight different versions I could choose from. Do all of them, because of the narrator matters. If your your cadences off, actually hard, listen to yes, and if somebody's at a lot of the. Hunter Thompson books sure inaudible format, and there's a couple of some people do it. They try to do it in the trying to copy decayed his voice that weird sort of way he. Almost mumbled talker vast rat. What sell? That's not necessarily the way I want to look. Through a lot of what some of his books out there right now. Is He. May Carbon Carbon type stuff? But letters, he wrote to Remington firearms asking for a warranty claim. Like, they don't need the hundred Thompson ramble style for that. And so I'll I'll go through. Listen to that sample. Can't get used to got. It does mean a lot now I've learned. I know I've got my finger narrators. And I end up listening to books that they've done because they're really good narrators and they really are nearly. Archie Bray. Reporter I mean these guys lawn fire there just so in demand band. Julia Whelan. Just enjoyed all the artwork that they put into. Making it happen, it really is an art and I've had a lot of fun getting into it. How can I get into narrating once? I started with my own book. We'll see where it goes from. There does yes, you've heard me say before your listener. I have an audible addiction that needs a damn twelve step program. But in so it's great to learn to create that content in audio instead of just renton if you will is. Exploding it's so popular. It's gotten way more popular than anyone could ever imagine and without popularity comes. Form of art in it, so it's very very excited Seattle. Turn out honestly in on the future I. think that'll be it. Let me know when you need your article read. We'll be loading MP threes on the blogs and. I can rechargeable you whatever maybe? He will stop us into the radio, but veraciously pickup podcasts. Stop reading what they want audio books, or they want a kindle something like that. Well. It's it's easier. Than the radio, no radio is unfortunately going out I think it'll be. Like TV was fifteen years ago. Shut off. But now TV on the old antennas. Plugging cable. So. What's the point in these steaks? Mass amounts of electricity maps mass amounts of money to pump that electricity, and so yeah. The radios really moving sideways. It's exciting to the podcast world because it's all going digital show. And I think we're podcast is going to war really geeking out here? Dear Listener Vase her in. But podcast is going how it's all GonNa be. We think the term is going to be just audio show on the future and his London MP threes so much easier and cheaper. Dang radio station will love the future brains, but it's definitely going to be the contents moving around. Laws are so yesteryear. John Yet That's that's why I'm working on being a writer, not a water. Consider myself a blogger. I have my own blog my website. Where is most of the time when I post on my blog? It's hey check out this article. What's your website? GIANTS DOT COM. Johnny Kill More Dot Com. J. O., H., N. Y.. Feel more, but you think well. Yeah, the double in the it some. Ways to spell John? Is mainly a nickname. Honestly I really John would let I've had that nickname since high school. And I just use it actually in a band and then I was promoting my. Band is my sponsor. My racing because I had no water. Okay cool in the racing got so big that I got stuck with the name. And then everybody just needs John Fillmore rat rod, you Google, John Would you're not gonna find me you're gonNA. Find a thousand people. Up That's the well. If we're on that I've got a confession. Bob Is. Is Robert. How'd you guess? It might be Robert. Knows I totally understand and I got Bob. My Dad was off his Bob. How thank you guys who joining us? You guys on the Graham. Yeah Yeah It's actually the. At John Gilmore. What's the project that we're doing? The trip is actually got its own to Hartwell Horizon. Okay yeah it started off. Really is just a way. Because we had different circles of friends and so being able to share stuff, we created a instagram and then. I in a flurry of. Just. Too much free time and creativity, and I build a website, a logo, and so now one horizon turn into more of a travel log on. You know project that actually let create stories, and not just share van. What friends? Moreover it's cool, and it's a number two hearts yet. kmarts number two the number one. Sworn Dot com that that website been sitting there. Alabama updated in a year to one of the millions of things we'll do we get. Everything shoved into storage. whites ready. Wow, the route is all updated website. How you feel about being home state. Why haven't heard it? Big Home is where the heart is. Welcome. Has a really inspiring. Thanks for joining us today. I don't. Especially coughing. Good stuff copy. American, road runner brings you a road runner in the headlight. You heard it first here on this show. We all know. Are We all love her lover? She's a love of my life. This one goes out to Ms. Beulah may co host of girl on a Modo podcast. She came back for a second annual Radwan cakewalk in her one thousand thirty two miles in eighteen hours eleven minutes. She brought our good friend and sponsor something at American roadrunner. I'm not sure who that is. Along for the ride, but here's the story you've heard it. Let's hear it from Boulez hand. My I text message to Bob Marshall was half questioning half advas- seeking when you're doing. Rodwin K. in a day. What's your average speed? I suspect around eighty five. My next x was what are you doing may not. It? Was that simple? Yes, or no answer and just like that. Within a day, Bob had a few options for this trip for us to leave and return from his fly and Marshall Laboratory with thousand mile loop. I packed my gear the day before to avoid procrastination, and over thought on what I would bring on the back of my sportster. After a day of work on Friday I wrote the Bob's recorded a show with him got some sleep woke up early and let all the mayhem of this ride begin. We left Riverside in southern California to head. North made a left turn. Las Vegas to easily Nevada and then over and down the three ninety five for a complete loop, it was cool, then warm, then wet, and then perfect, there was a near collision, a backdrop in the dirt exhaust Flange, dangling in the wind. Someone ran out of gas and spoiler. Alert the same. Someone blew rear tire with less than two hundred miles to go. Tow trucks credit cards short naps on side of the road and bad directions above all adventure I would do it all over again in a heartbeat. Check out all the Shenanigans on the American roadrunner motorcycle show, and on my blog at girl on a moto dot com. Yes, this was the ride where abloh up my tire and you heard it. All of you episodes ago. Way To submit this Beulah may well done. We've got a six person ride. These are six people who all got together and made it all happen. Let's hear about it. We're starting with on the Graham at Carlos. Four peasy won crushed his second one K. This year. With one thousand nine miles twenty two hours twenty nine minutes, he recruited some new riders for this one while others were returned riders as well. He rats after going north to reno on my first one. K. Yon May twelve twenty twenty. We went east this time to sedona Arizona. I feel this route was much more fun. Highway Eighty, nine and eighty nine eighty was. Was Amazing with views and roads smooth as a baby's, but stopped in Prescott at the Harley store and headed to the Sedona, Beer Company we eight and headed up to flagstaff from there was a race West on highway forty much easier around this time. Not hit a storm really helps surprisingly the he wasn't bad at all. It was optimal riding conditions throughout the entire trip. Well done Sir are bell rings for you. Let's go with router number two six. This is at Martha skill skin on the Graham knocked out the one K. One thousand five miles for her in twenty three hours one minute. She kept her story short and sweet, and we appreciate that Hashtag. Rod more talk last. I love it. This is hilarious. She writes smash and Grab One K. to flagstaff and back rolled Jerome Cottonwood and Sedona a man well done sister welcomed the Colt. You are saluted. Rider three of six at L. Fr- affair patrol on. Knocked out his second one K ready this year this time with the group twice the size. Of course we haven't clocked in at one thousand sixty three miles in twenty two hours ten minutes. He writes this quarantine has ride and more than ever. Before we headed from Ventura towards Phoenix to do the eighty nine to eighty, nine, eight to flagstaff and a dash back home on the forty, the eighty nine and eighty nine, a is a beauty of the Strip, lots and lots of turns, maybe not ideal for the one K.. Trip in regards of time, but we do it for the ride and made it. We passed through Prescott Jerome a city on the side of a mountain and Sedona. Words and pictures can't expressive beauty ready to do another here shortly. Stay tuned, well done Sir congratulations number two this year. Let's get to ride or four of six. We have a new record for oldest rider Jose re senior. Sixty nine wasn't good company with. I One K and two who already knew the ropes got him at one thousand seventy one miles in twenty two hours twenty minutes. Congratulations on completing the ride and taken the title of oldest rider I. Sure Hope I'm able to crush one ks into my sixties. Great Work Jose. Jose Rats I love to get up early and ride. It's a beautiful road that we took got a little tired towards the end. God Willing I will continue to ride for many more years. I'm sixty nine now and feel great. Thank you. Thank you thank you, Jose Sixty nine and killing it. We appreciate you sir. Five of six Black Wolf underscore honcho knocked out this one K.. This ride was a challenge especially when the pain said in, but Chris enjoyed every mile of it, Chris Road. Where do I begin I? Was Skeptical on doing this ride I was nervous anxious and couldn't even sleep only getting three and a half hours in. I woke up at one forty five am to meet up with the group at three. A M I was pumped Ryan Dorsey. Stop Gas up was easy peasy. The weather was perfect, maybe upper sixties and aspreys. Man Seeing. That sunrise was amazing. My going through Palm Springs make an unforgettable memories while Radan with a group of friends that love to put in their miles. Head into the halfway mark. I started feeling the tiredness. My hands started getting tied Mansour Radan without a fair in on my back, took a little toll having the wind blowing good a few times each time we would gas up I was excited to see the next town. We would stop and pass through. I didn't realize how many miles we had already put in, and ours don't get me wrong. Being the first time or during the one K. was tough, but I loved every mile of it well done. Sir, welcome to the club. Bells ringing for use. Radyr. Six of six at underscored dot Gabe dot underscore s on the Graham crushes I one K with his group of friends one. Thousand Twenty eight miles twenty two hours twenty four minutes. Have you noticed the Times they're always just a little different? Even in a group, it all goes back to the fewer seats, so always keep that in mind whatever the ending and beginning receipts as these are your times, so looks like we're going to see some more miles from. He writes well. I got my first one K under my belt finally went through with it and I must say. I enjoyed it I. Didn't get much sleep the night before because I was too excited to get on the road. Left venture with the rest of the crew in Zuza. Getting the palm springs area, as the sun was Razan, was super cool to watch, but at the same time was feeling tired. Contemplated if I should just turn back glad I did and. Before this ride, the furthest I rode was about three hundred miles. It's so much better Radan with a crew once we got to Prescott, Jerome said. Wow views were amazing. Flagstaff was our turning point, so we headed back and felt good. Only part was my rear end was bugging most of the ride. The Heat wasn't too bad either and I definitely do it again I need delay more miles down on my back Mr. Gabe congratulations welcome to the gang. Let's get over to shovel head on the Graham knocked down his first one K one, thousand, nine hundred seven miles, and twenty hours fifty seven minutes as part of the one K. Prep Advice, I often say exactly what Joe mentioned here, try to get in some solid rest beforehand, but easier said than done because. Joel rats the not before the ride. I felt like a kid on Christmas. I've been wanting to do this for some time. And for one reason or another I never did this time it was going to happen, and it did. The ride started off later. Then I would have locked, but it was a good thing. Because if we had left earlier, we would have. Have Gotten poured on? We chased the Double Rainbow for some time as my friend on the Graham at Brendel seventy, nine and I embarked upon our journey, we had a set plan, but for some reason we were not able to load the Google maps I'd created into his navigation or my phone, so we did as best as we could to stick to the route. We missed on some of the roads I'd plan, but also gained so much more or less in the road. Take US where wanted to. We wanted to take the scenic route down to Nashville then all highway back. It was very hard for me to put into words. How great of an experience this was for anyone who has done it i? Am sure you understand. There's something about getting off the back. After doing nine hundred miles, and I laughed so hard that I cried and sat a gas station and Remington Indiana at two am, and not even knowing why if you are thinking about doing the Radwan candidate do it. I can't wait for next time. Well said Mr Joe. Thank you for your contribution looks like you. One Heck of a ride. Welcome to the gang. Last, but not least Michelle a fairly new rider crushed her first one K with us soon after coming up short on another great to see her. Try again so soon, not only did she have plenty of time to spare this time, but log some extra credit miles as well one thousand one hundred five miles in seventeen hours ten minutes. Nice Ride Michelle. Glad you enjoyed it. She wrote I. wrote Texas for two weeks vacation and missed challenged by an hour on the way out I was determined to take advantage of three time zones and extended daylight hours on my ride home, cool temperatures and latte traffic between Amarillo Albuquerque. Albuquerque was spectacular for Rod and it was so cold I use rain gear to stay warm new. Mexico mountains were much appreciated landmarks then progress slowed because of smoke from extensive fires obscured the sun, a truck overturned across the forty freeway, causing traffic to divert around the ramps at the next stop a shed, the ring gear taken the forty, instead of the ten was much cooler and the rat decision the continental divide in New Mexico was a great photo, op and beautiful scenery for the rat, a late lunch and flagstaff revived me for the remaining seven hours, and I also took off the jacket liner. Arizona felt lack summer. Radin? His son was making me tired. Crossing into California was familiar territory. I Push Bass Barstool for gas and was nine hundred ninety eight miles the beautiful sunset. Energize me for one and a half to reach home. Traffic was starting to build, but manageable at not close to home. The fifteen ninety one freeway interchange closure took me on a thirty minute detour when I pulled into the last gas stop, I was exhausted and elated. Having Been Rodney only four years, I felt lack accomplishing one K and a day is making up for lost times well done. Michelle congratulations welcome to the gang. And next time American road runner will continue. We've got some very exciting things. Something about nine hooligan riders all riding together in a group somewhere in Oregon. This is GonNa get excited for the ride. One candidate remember you can find all this on the Graham and of course you can find us online American roadrunner, the Book Dot Com. Find the book anywhere you purchase books. Find this motorcycle show anywhere. You listen to podcast and on Youtube. Recommended to a friend, let everyone know this is where it all begins Sarakin roadrunner Ville mixed up bells Merican roadrunner. Riverside down. American roadrunner. American roadrunner. 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Fast Money 03/27/19

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Fast Money 03/27/19

"What if when interest rates rose your portfolio rose to the occasion, active income investing from Franklin Templeton reach for better? All investments involve risks Franklin Templeton distributors, inC. Begins now live from the NASDAQ market site in Times Square. I'm Scott wapner in tonight four Melissa Lee are traders on the desk, Pete, and Jerry and Tim Seymour, Dan. Nathan guy adobe ahead on fast, the SNP on track for its best quarter in years and a handful of stocks have gone parabolic. We'll tell you which ones have more room to run and speaking of parabolic checkout. Lululemon soaring after its earnings report tonight that stock up more than one hundred percent over the past year. We've got those details coming up, but we start with a big reversal for stocks today. The Dow swinging more than three hundred points as the bond market continues to wreak havoc on Wall Street, the ten year yield sink to its lowest level in fourteen months as the yield curve continues to flatten even the bond proxy sectors. Like utilities falling today. The should you shake off the growth fears, and what is safe to buy guy? Well, again, welcome back day to day. We I know you're playing hurt so Kudo, thank you. So you thanks for looking at mom. I'm pointed out for the growth mirrors. Were blown while. We talk about him a lot. But are they overblown will no not at Vicks at fifteen and that when the s&p five hundred within four percent of the all time, high we made back this fall. So I think although there talked a lot about the market doesn't seem all that concerned yet. But what I will say is this, you know, the fact that we continue sort of seem the roll over this twenty eight hundred level has to be somewhat concerning. I think the vix is too cheap given this environment. And I do think stocks come under some pressure with that said to answer your original question. I still have time by. About quitting. Waiting for. About that. Obviously not hurt. And I think Tim would agree with me on this. When I still think energy could be bought and specific areas big cap energy, Exxon Mobil, at some of the names, Tim, Michio. They Devon and capital. For example, is a by. And I still think healthcare goes higher from. So I would agree with that. And I would just take my glass half full to the half empty the what's going on with the ten year. Also, maybe this this some of this. Today's news, not not the entire move in the tenure, obviously we been wrestling with growth fears, but Stephen Moore, you know, do we have a loose cannon the pen wants to cut rates the rumors out there, another fifty basis point cut. There's no he said, well, okay. So but the rumor that the fed would actually go through and do this. You're right. I mean, people are contemplating whether the fed cuts once or twice the fact that we're even doing that is very different than we were a month ago. The things I'm encouraged about first of all today's trade data indicated exports were not only up, but they are up significantly to Europe for everybody. That's looking for a rebound in at least some response to. Hey, I think we're through the worst of the growth fears. I think that's something. Some of the risk indicators. You could be looking at Dalian X fine US levers loan index X fine US high yield X fine. The places where you really get concerned emerging markets and Sammy's have been battered over the last five days you could pay caution there. Sorry, dad as long as rates though, remain low and at the top of the conversation, doesn't it puts somewhat of a cap on on the rally it might do. But I think at this stage of the game with rates going the way they are from the tenure yield above three and a quarter just what six months ago to where it is. It looks like it's going back to two percent. That's not particularly bullish in my mind for. It just I. Well. Okay. So he has he's the one. Here's what want. So the last time we had this situation was was late two thousand fifteen early two thousand and sixteen and we really did have a serious global growth. Fear about deflation about rates just go in there. This is when we started to see a lot of sovereign debt. Go negative around the world, and what outperformed here in the US. It was these things with strong, secular trends, it was the magazine you guys call it FANG. It was also a lot of these cloud names. But I think it's a different period right now. Because I'm looking at adobe, I'm looking at Salesforce right now, they don't have the outperformance relative to the NASDAQ that they did once just a couple of years ago. So I guess my point is is one thing to say high growth, secular trends is fantastic. But here we are a couple years out from the last time we had that sort of scare I'm not sure the valuation make a whole heck of a lot of sense in some of those areas right now, I think what you're doing is. You're always looking for quality. That's where everybody starts, right? But when you look at the interest rates, and you look at what we were over three percent here. We are two point four percent or a little bit below that even so what does that mean? It means the multiple increases and what you can do in terms of the market itself. And I think you're. Look at names right now that you look for quality in the first ones you look for you look for quality look for free cash flows. And then all of a sudden you look at dividend yield some of them, then whereas give you list, I'll give you. I looked through my list. Just now what I own stock lice, Scott, and almost all of those fell in the category of they have growth they've got a dividend yield. They've got quality target. Home depot. Lowe's. You go through that list and KFI kinder- mortgage. So you're still exposed somewhat to energy, but it's not so much based on just prior to Home Depot and Lowe's though or exposed to slower economy, they are housing market. If you believe that if you believe I mean, we are weakening a little bit. I think in the economy, but are we are we slowing to a stop? No, do I think the spring seasons are going to be strong. Yes. There's still think we're going to see the Home Depot and Lowe's outperform. I think there's major defense for Home Depot, at least in an environment. Where people are less optimistic about what might be on the comedy because frankly, people are going to be fixing up their homes. They have jobs interest rates are low. I think they're going to be spending money on their houses. I also think that Home Depot has proven to at least have some counter cyclicality to you. Talk about free cash flow yields look at the energy. Sector again, Chevron is never had better free cash flow yields and I think that's something to think about Nike. Great free cash. Flow yields apple great free cash. Flow yield. So yes, I agree. And I agree with those names that talked about those are high quality companies here and the world is not falling apart overnight. And I think as much as we want to believe that that could be the case based upon a bond market moved. That's that's dramatic and scary. It's not what's happening like the data overseas. Though ex the bond market here is robust. I mean, it's not robust. He's economies. Whether it's Germany, and and other places are around the world are are undoubtedly slowing. They are undoubtedly slowly, and we can make an argument Germany is first of the major European economies to go into recession. We're going to have a lot of data tomorrow morning. Look at CPI's out of Europe, especially Germany, you also get European confidence. But again, I am encouraged by if we think that the trade war was essentially a supply side issue, you should get V-shaped recovery. If we think that the trade war is gone. I mean, do you guys believe that if we didn't have the trade war the economy will be in the same place? It is right now the point is question is how much better if it was better. Would it really be? Okay. So I mean, but you're saying you get a V. I don't know maybe the V starts up, but then it stalls because earnings are still not going to be all that great. The best case scenario that we have an SAP five hundred that's up twelve percent on the year. Now, obviously, it's where it was just seven months ago, you know, so we actually did have a V recovery in. The stock market, but we're still well below those prior highs and we've been in an eighteen month range, I'd say the best case scenario now is the idea of thinking about how does the second half. Look, if we do have some sort of trade deal in the early summer because that's the trade that you really want to get on here. And you'd like to see the stock market actually pull back, right? You'd like to set them and get a bit worse than it is right now you'd like to see when Q2. guidance comes out in April you'd like to see it somewhat downbeat without a whole heck of a lot of clarity. Because that's a market. You wanna buy for? What is most certainly going to be some sort of deal for the second half. The I know we all pay attention to the five hundred in terms of where's it going? Now, it's up whatever you just twelve percent, whatever it might be right now. But don't we look at the whole rotation of what's going on in the market as well. I mean, we're looking for the sectors in the segments in which we wanna be right. I mean, we're always moving semiconductors. You just mentioned have had a dramatic pullback from where they were they were screaming up, and that we've got a little bit of a pullback does that mean it's over for the semis? I don't think. So. But I think you just gotta go through each and every one of these and just figure out where the rotations are very nimble and again. It's gotten now we're talking about this a new it's a trading market, this continues to be very much trading market. And even the big boys are trading this market. And I think that's why we're seeing these moves where we're seeing swings once again up two hundred two hundred in the same day. That's because it's traded. If you're worried about the breakdown in yields our next guest has three high dividend paying stocks to buy for a breakout. Crisper strategic research is at the plasma to break it down for us. Chris Hayes got well. First. Let's talk about what happened today. I thought was really interesting you had yields lower. But the yield group utilities reads evil gold did not act that well, so maybe there's some type of a change afoot here in the bond market. I wanna look at ten year yields here just to start this over the last several years. Tens bottomed at one thirty back in the summer of sixteen and they peaked at three thirty in the summer of two thousand eighteen to two hundred basis point move over two years, if you cut that move in half it gets you right to about two thirty. So a fifty percent return. Placement. The entire move is basically we're yields trade right now, that's an area of support. We would not be surprised to see yields bounce from here, particularly with sentiment and momentum. Now oversold so don't be shocked to see yield rally. I think in that environment. If we want to yield stocks, they have to be more than just yield pairs. This is McDonald's M D. Good story. Good picture. It has spent the better part of the last six months at a pretty tight range. We think it breaks up it out of that one seventy range on its way to one ninety and importantly, MCI outperforming the SNP as well. So good relative trend there. I think lows it's another example here the yield on lows is about one eighty you're getting a pretty competitive yield the trend has been intact for the better part of the last couple years every single time. It finds support it rallies. Find support it rallies. It did that a few weeks ago. What we really like here is in relative terms about to make new relative highs versus the. So we think Loews is fine. I think Intel is another story you'll hear about two fifty. It's coming out of this big base for what's been a pretty weak less. Couple of days for the semi's Intel's actually held in there. Okay. I think he could get this back to fifty dollars. It's timely and then on the other side. What do you want to avoid the stocks that are only yield plays? That's all true for us. It's rally right into resistance at the downward sloping two hundred eight moving average is failed here several times in the past. This still looks like a bear market truck to us. We think this one goes lower. So when you put this together, we suspect yields probably doubts here. So if you're going to own yield stock focus on things like Microsoft or Intel or lows, that's where the value is. All right. Chris come on over to the desk. No mean, sometimes we like to go on this show. We've oh, thanks got navy. Way down it. So. Veto harsh. Don't give me the Tagore is. It's just a question Christmas here, by the way by the producers. We're talking to me and my piece not from over here. I got a little head of myself though. I'll be quite bottom line is just looking for yield is not enough. I don't think so I think we've been in an environment where over the last couple of weeks, they just took them from two sixty to thirty. They're probably oversold here. I thought the last couple of days were telling the it didn't have the yield groups actually act that well utilities were laggard today. Reach were laggard today. Gold was down. So what does the market already know? I think maybe starting to price in Tim talks about this, our growth expectation, actually, maybe starting to bottom here. Are we at the point now where where we want to start thinking what's the next now Pete talking about this very trading environment? I think that speaks to what we've seen here. Well, your to your stocks as well tell and and lows. Yeah. Or ones that you like, yes, he's right into what Chris absolutely. And I'm curious are some of the other names that I mentioned do they fall into the category as well the home peoples of the world, if you think about that whole housing space, the whole these are shocks have been getting better for six months. Now, the home builder's did not bottom on. Remember twenty six with the market. They bought them way earlier in the fourth quarter. So I think the housing market has already been showing you that something may be getting better in that space look at how the NAR active today. Look at how poultry in toll KB, h that's a good space. We think it's getting better lows again with a one eighty yield an attractive way to play to Chris how do you do with a name like Intel which didn't really suffer? The same Fahd has all the rest of the markets did so in fact inte- was very defensive going through December into the downdraft in the market, and it's been kind of less than spectacular on the way up here. What what's your trading? I do want to still keep in mind until down twenty five percent from high to low in the fourth quarter sheer. So it got shaken out with the rest of some of the forty so certainly from that context, but to stock that actually start to out performance of timber October. It's continued to outperform in a risk on market over the last three months that just sounds like a leader to me. Right. You get this thing back for fifty two to fifty two pretty good area to add some exposure. All right. Stuff like you. Thanks for being here. Chris road. Right. We have much more on the market. Take a look at some of the stocks up double digits this year next plus checkout. Lululemon soaring after its earnings that stock has been on a tear. We'll bring you the latest and breaking moments ago lift set to price between seventy and seventy two again above the expected range. We'll tell you what it means is that stock goes public this week live in Times Square more fast money in two minutes. Brought to you by IBM. We live in a world, that's creating a enabled everything a world with more. I o t devices than people today technology has never been smarter. 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It has also it is one of this class of aging unicorns that have been private for a very long time in let its valuation climb through VC money, but still guys at a set to go public at an even higher valuation with this new range. It's implied market cap could be as high as twenty point five billion dollars on a non diluted basis and to give you some perspective that would put it on par with the value of United continental so lots of excitement, but lots of questions as well. Of course, this is a company. Talked about this lots that has lost nearly a nearly a billion dollars last year, lots of questions about the business model, and the company can't even guarantee that it ever will be profitable. So this is the latest pricing debut will have important implications for its larger rival Uber because it is planning to go public as early as April. The better lift does the better Uber does even though it is a much bigger company much bigger platform that does ride sharing along with a lot of other businesses, and it's invested and a lot of other ride sharing companies around the world. So the fact that it is going to be pricing higher. Then it's expected range is interesting, and it will be making its debut all goes, well, where you guys are on the NASDAQ this Friday, thank you both with the latest there trade this. Yes. So what I think is really interesting is that all of a sudden now coming to the public markets. We have a brand new sector transportation as a service interior to set it public. Investors are gonna get to play in something that have been playing for a long time. The other thing about lift is really interesting. It is a pure play on the ride share market here. Here in the US very different than what's going to come from Uber in a couple of months. So I suspect that there's going to be tremendous demand for this thing when you talk about the valuation it twenty twenty five billion dollars. Let's not forget that's something that Twitter was that when it came public about four years ago or five years ago that sort of thing. So to me, I think the growth is here. They have a very solid management is a pure play on something that we know is going to be a transformative business already been a very transformative business here in the US. And I would just say differently. I think there's I agree with everything you said other than no, I would just say that there's limited capacity to invest in the space. You say it's a new angle. I think you have a case where I'm not sure Uber gets the same. Look, I also think that people are playing relative value already. I think there are issues at Uber. That people are not willing to look past a much bigger company with a much bigger amount of stock coming to market. My biggest concern is when the idea that they don't ever see profitability point. Is that sound like snap? Right. I mean, when we saw some of the other ideals that are big everybody wants them. They all wanted to be in social media at the time. They go for a snap, for instance when? If they're not going to be making money Pete. But here's but nap is is not an essential company. They're doing maybe a couple billion dollars in sales next year something like that that's sales out of a mass dimension growing users versus not growing. I mean, this is this is a business that is going to continue to grow. And we just saw that Uber. Spang three billion dollars for a ride sharing company in the Middle East. You know, the growth is global, and this is something that you know, how much bigger ability is always an issue for me. And when you look at fundamentals, I mean, we were talking about the top of the show you look at fundamentals right at some point you have to look at fundamentals people weren't bothered. The fact that that Amazon wasn't actually printing any still or get for years. By that. Amazon does the risk on dynamic. All right is far as investors are concerned. There's going to be demand for well run. This would be held to me if I was lucky enough to be on this and get off get what you are trying to do very hard. Yes. And there's going from a price of sixty to seventy seventy two is the next range. Yes. I think it could go higher. I'd want to be out pretty quick about icon. You remember the investment that he made back in fifteen million a hundred million dollars at a two billion dollar valuation for card ching. Yeah. Not. But I'll say this. You know, there's some great shows on the NBC network all day, and I have is watching the squawk box this morning. They had a gentleman that was talking about IPC rates them and in terms of their rating. This was one of the lowest rated IPO c- seen in quite some time lower rated than snap for exist. I'm not based on a lot of metrics that he talked about. So it's interesting. I think the the the metrics were somewhere between zero and eight in this came in below five. I might be off with my numbers point being everybody will probably run into because everybody knows lift I was actually a lift driver for a day that doesn't mean it's a sustainable business model. Think the peace point. All right. We do have some breaking news on the FAA Boeing hearing Lon Moy has that force tonight on Scott hearing his lasted two hours and counting so far. And there have been some fireworks, including one particularly heated exchange between democratic Senator Ed Markey. And the acting head of the FAA over what safety features should be mandatory on Boeing. Seven thirty seven maxi's. Senator safety critical pieces of equipment on an aircraft are mandatory. That's what certification does if it safety critical. So you don't think that you don't think that they should have been mandatory. Is that what you're saying that what you just said they should not have been mandatory. So I'm saying that any the they should they have been mandatory. Yes on no. So the the distinction between what goes in a flight deck, and what stays out is a discussion. So there they were talking specifically about the angle of attack indicator Marquis and about twelve thirteen other Democrats has sent a letter to Boeing CEO accusing the company providing safety Alicarte, but Boeing has put out a statement saying that they plan an offering that indicator at no cost to airlines in the future echo for to yield already lawn. Thank you very much for that report. Despite all this airlines where a bright spot in the market today to me. Well, it's interesting and also the MAC seven three three seven issue is something where people wanted to possibly impute this upon airlines, actually, it might be they might have lower Arauz. They might actually be a little bit more margin friendly on the back of this might even cut some capacity. Something we like to see with airlines bottom line is is a bad situation that doesn't necessarily mean it has to be good for airlines, which often sometimes these things really are in the case of airlines. I think airlines a group, and I I would say delta at the front of the line. Are priced as if we're in a recessionary market. I think they're trading stocks more so than even other stocks in the transport sector, which is obviously very cyclical I love delta nine and a half times to me is the best of breed funny though, real quickly. We have a couple of charts. If you look at United you look at delta looking American. I mean, you say their price for recession the charts. Look like they're about to just just just flush. I mean, they the really bad. So today, those bounces that you said it was the one bright spot or off a really key support levels. Just kind of look at those they bounce where they should have, you know, but delta the one that out on a relative basis acts the best let's like a massive head and shoulders tops to me. There's something else going on in this group, that's kind of evil here. That's hanging around for a while. I think the interesting thing from a Boeing perspective is forty percent of the prophets are coming from the MAC from the seven thirty. I mean, that's that's pretty stunning right? I mean, that's something where you got to look at the workhorse jet. Yes. And you talk about city had that that that that call today, they said either a five hundred dollar stock or two hundred twenty percent that's reminded everybody fi. Five percent shot that it goes down to two twenty. So they're playing some of this. They're playing at both sides, but small to the downside and their opinion. And obviously, look and much more upside. Yeah. Well, quickly south west air to me, probably has the most to lose. But it actually is one of the better stock say it was up to in a quarter percent. And I think they have thirty five or thirty six of those planes now on hold or basically sitting on runways getting inspect it. What's the point? I mean, valuations are interesting southwest is a little more expensive than delta. I agree. But the fact that it did well today leads me to believe that maybe it continues to rally in earnings, which I believe Ron able twenty fifth. All right for more on the airlines head to CNBC dot com. Here's what else is coming up on fast. Trade it made it faded trade it pull up stocks up breaking out as the SNP has its best quarter in a decade that traders will tell you which wants to trade for paid. Plus wanna know how to invest like an Injia? 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When you're talking about if what would give you that Washington Capitals fans. So if the cat is right defending champion Alex Ovechkin because they didn't want him anymore. It's just an odd game to me the trade. It actually means you wanna buy it. I just want to bring that up because I know you're not that familiar with this game. Directly for you. I want to see how can you try the stock? It's been parabolic over the last six months. Yes, it has. But you look at the quarter ridiculous quarter. In terms of comps inventories were up ten point eight percent year over year. Sales growth was close to twenty percent margins continue to hold in their this this program. They have that keeps people in everybody. Feels good about being an altar is firing on all cylinders and quite frankly at twenty three so times forward earnings. It's not crazy expensive in terms of their earnings growth. So I say traded relative to themselves. I mean, this is a consumer products company that I I'm not sure how much pricing power they have. I actually think it's more expensive than that. I would be fading the stock Scott, by the way, I won't get into the meeting. I think this doc to me in an environment. Where if anything sounds like you guys think that the consumer could be under some pressure? Not sure why you wanna be in cosmetics, discretionary, I think you're traded because the fact of the free cash flow is there, and we talk about that every single night when we break down all these stocks, and you'll fundamental story is there as well. So ballot sheet is great trades at twenty three times at what's the growth. Yeah. Giddy. Ministered enough. Yeah. Okay. Dan, you're up next. Aaa sixty two percent sweating twenty nineteen. Trade it or faded. I think you faded again. I'll tell you why. I mean, this is back in two thousand fifteen this company printed fifteen dollars and forty cents in earnings. And they saw that basically evaporate. The next year with all that coli sort of stuff next year. They're expected to actually get back to that peak earnings about fifteen and a half bucks twelve and a half dollars this year. So we're almost there. The stock is basically about ten percent away from those all time highs back in two thousand fifteen trading about fifty six times this year is expected earnings which is expensive to its history. Especially when it's getting back up to this earnings ramps. So to me, I think if you have not been in this trade, you're not getting it now for what might be an epic double top ones. Investors start to discount the fact that they're back at that peak earnings to me, so I'm fading this one I think you would say I would agree within. Wow, okay, cut. Why do you have to? Assistant. I mean, everything's got to be confrontational. I'm agreeing with you. I think you're making coach and points. The double top you speak of comes around seven fifty. I think July or so of two thousand fifteen forty five times forward earnings is ridiculous. But you know, what the valuations been ridiculous for last hundred dollars. So you have to ask a certain point. You just been wrong. I've been trying to fade the stock for quite some time. But I will say this. I agree with Dan, you could have the mother of all double tunnels. Comes into four. Sorry. It's what's all just see said mother and open a burrito for sure. Yes. Thank you. All right. Tim, hi, g up thirty seven percent. This year traded or faded. I'm going to trade it and Ozzy gees up. Thirty seven percent is after a blasting and a plastering in two thousand eighteen and what's going on here. Well between the sales, and at least the ones we've outlined for. So we have very near term forty billion dollars in in spinouts and tech and bio pharma, and you name it. And so I think that the story for GM really is about balance-sheet nothing changes overnight. But I think Larry Culp is making change faster. I I don't think there's a lot to be excited about other than the sum of the parts still make sense to me in this business. And I think if you look at the earnings multiple it's very debatable. What they're going to earn. But I don't think that even matters isn't getting whittled down you say the sum of the parts are they just taking those best parts kinda kick them out. And I just think that last month we saw when they announced that deal. Right. And that was something that everyone was really positive about. The stock was up twenty percent, and the premarketing gave it all back over the next couple of weeks or investors starting to lose patients or still is a very complicated story. Well, I think they need. To be very patient. I look Baker Hughes to me in an environment. Where I think energy is slowly rated over the last couple of years. I think Baker Hughes might be valued at a discount right now. They don't have to go sell it that's part of the story here. But definitely getting that that utility that power book into a place where it it's it's not a loss leader. But that actually even it's running at even kill is what I think Larry culpas doing that will help this company slowly, revitalize these assets, you think it's going back low suddenly panic, I think they're moving. I think they're moving the chairs around on the Titanic right now. And the problem is he's not getting the prices that he needs to get. He's doing what he has to do. And what he needs to do. But I look at the balance sheet, you still have one hundred plus billion dollars in debt. I mean, that's a big number. And so at some point in time, I think people will start looking in that get more and more concerned. It's been a great run from six up to hear. But can't go any higher. I don't know. Right. You wanna use Ilinka while we're up almost fifty four. Sorry. Yeah. Well, you know, what this is the main that actually I trade it all the way up to one hundred and then I gave up. But then suddenly I look at the stock now, and it's trade in the bucket a quarter. This is a stock that showing incredible growth of got great cashflows. They're doing everything right there in the right sector. But there are times where you get pulled back. So I think you're starting to see a little bit of a pullback I'd like to see a little bit more. And that's why I say trade it. I don't think you wanna fade this when too much fade. This thing you're going to be looking at the doctrine one fifty we do a little segment on. We do trader faded on the show. We had to do another thing. We do. What would you rather as well? We always do there's a production call at four thirty. We don't need to have another one in five of them. He said. Let's get the bites at home know that we do not its call four thirty another one now called the power-pitch. And you Pete my recall, this did power-pitch undesired straighten about eight eight thousand Dan, you you were. So mean to me, I mean, it means to me a lot. But you. Pete under so five G thing reports on April twenty fourth. I think it continues to rally in okay coming up Shikha shares of little Lulu lemon soaring after its earnings report. One of the traders here says the rally just getting started. We'll find out why plus one and know how to invest like a ninja you are in luck because American ninja warrior, host Akbar project via Mila is here to tell us how to do just that more fast money straight ahead. It really good here. I welcome back. Lulu soaring after its earnings reports. Seema Mody has more details on that. Hey sima. Hey got Lululemon success during the critical holiday season and strong growth in Asia helped offset and operating loss in Europe, specifically China ecommerce continues to be particularly robust generating an increase of over one hundred and forty percent in the fourth quarter and CEO Calvin McDonald says the man is going to stay strong going forward. China is an area of focus in significant opportunity for us. We are seeing strong success across this market and are pleased to see more and more people living the sweat life and engaging with our brand wheel exceleron the pace of new store openings and continued to connect with our guest local community events and brand activation 's Lil opened its first store and Asaka and Macau in the fourth quarter and plans to unveil twenty five thirty stores internationally this year as a retailer tries to extend its brand awareness outside of the US. Now in terms of new categories management says men's pants has been one of the fastest growing products for the company you remember the company did recently signed NFL quarterback Nick foles as an ambassador. It's also encouraged by growth in itself. Carolina. It did launch a new line back in fall of twenty eighteen as well as a new partnership with soul cycle, Scott. The stock is up after hours back to you. Thanks. Thanks very much Pete. I mean, this is one of your has voted against me still. They voted against I know that shocks you. I mean, I don't know what stocks ever gone through. But I will tell you. What are the things that we always talk about is the men's category theory? You also talking about they're not just athletes anymore. They're actually clothing that his work appropriate. And they've got shoes. And they're starting to get China's really started to take off from e commerce has been something that's been growing growing growing. So the combination of all that's got if they can continue that growth internationally, which they obviously that's the game plan. But if men's can move from twenty percent where it is right now up towards twenty five percent over the next year. Maybe thirty percent over the next year and start to get a little bit more of a mixed with the women's wear along with the little girls where that they've got as well all of that together is why this stock I think goes much higher. I think to hundreds not ridiculous to say two hundred dollars. I mean, I've asked you between Nike and Lulu. Every time. But we'll think about this margins are almost double just about every category. You look at his almost double. And yet this traits at thirty two times Nike trades at twenty six times, which is the better by absolutely Lulu. Well, it's clearly a case where they've got a similar story to tell right now terms of innovation. We're North America's actually findings picked up where I think there are people can somewhat concerned, but China e commerce growth up one hundred forty percent Asia segment sequence quarter up seventy percent. So these numbers are very impressive. This is the kind of stuff that Nike is giving you obviously they were up twenty eight percent in China, very different growth numbers. But for a bigger company. They'll Scott Friday at five thirty. So call option show, you should tune in. It's really fantastic. But this Friday, we helped pro aware night did a power pitch to my co a tag team on Lululemon a bullish play that's working out feverishly. Well, folks, and one of the reasons is that China, quote that we talked about end the men's division, and the fact that now they're buying back. Five hundred million dollars worth of stock. I would caution quickly that one sixty four. So was the previous all time high this September in my opinion. It's paramount that we now close above you have the pats, by the way. No, those athletes have boxer briefs. They're fantastic go there. There's nothing. You asked me what I had. I don't have the pan. I got him. I worked for pets. I'm sorry. I started this. It's my fault. All right. Speaking of opposites action shares of gaffer up around three percent today. One option straighter sees a bigger rally ahead you Sondra to last month. I walks. Yeah. So today in gap stores. Call volume was two times that of puts and there was one that kind of caught my eye shortly afternoon shuffling over. When the stock was trading about twenty six bucks. There was a buyer of six thousand of the June twenty seven calls paying a dollar twenty six for those those break even at twenty eight twenty seven on June expiration things that find really interesting a couple of weeks ago is March first we're seeing on this desk. And we see this announcement actually was February twenty gap stores was trading up twenty five percent in the aftermarket. We're all scratching our head because they're splitting up old navy and gap stores that were saying ourselves, I think we went around the death. And we're like sold to you. And I think that was really interesting. We'll look what happened. Here's the one year chart of gap stores. That's that gap mining that gap. It gave it all back here. So today, we have this kind of little up move as the stock is trading back near the fifty two week lows. If you look at the break, even on June expiration of those calls that were purchased. It's up here about twenty eight twenty seven like I said, so obviously a traitor looking to play for a kind of move back up to those prior highs just want to make one point why you might wanna play with the define risk in a name. Like that especially when that good news was rejected so aggressively. This is the five year chart here. You can just see what's going on. It's been banging around the bottom here. There is a huge air pocket down to the high teens if we break at current levels here. Okay. For more options action. Check out the full show as guy said Friday nights, five thirty PM eastern time right here on CNBC coming up shares of Kronos getting crushed this week. So what's going on with cannabis stick around, and you will find out? Plus, here's a sneak peek at our Kramer Cam. There. It is Jim talking to the teen CEO about there will care physician. Don't miss that interview. Top of the hour. Six PM is more fast after this. You're back out fast. Money crow does getting crushed down. Ten percent today. Hit by a number of downgrades after earnings this week Canaccord saying that the company's valuation has gotten ahead of its fundamentals. It's not just Cronos taken a hit in the last month. Till Ray canopy off real all down after a strong start to the year. Mr. Shanab is coupled. Thanks bye bye deduction. What would you say those four companies we just named all Canadian company? So what's happening right now is certainly valuations in Canada as a function of fully federally legal is allowed a lot of people to buy it. Because of that dynamic also every one of those companies trades in the new York Stock Exchange or the NASDAQ that also gives you a liquidity premium that's in the price of the shares where I would say is in chromosomes case, some fantastic strategic strategic deals with the Altria and other folks if you listen to Canaccord they've got him at ninety one times two thousand twenty e vita which is absurd so good for them for making a valuation. Call. I think the story is buying US. Right now, Tim is in a better way to play through like an all trio that have these steaks constellation rather than actually just getting in these names, the valuations are a little nuts, at least you have those other kind of levers in in the consumer names. I don't think so I think I actually own Altria constellation. But if you think about the percentage of their businesses coming cannabis cannabis on these guys and right on, but I think what we're soon going to see if we get this safe act banking deal done. The fact that you'll be able to see US multi state operators, come to the NASDAQ come to the new York Stock Exchange very important, which you might also see is some of these big US companies spinning out their hand for their business. So that they can come public with those names here, and now and get some of that valuation premium that is happening. You got to think, well, we've got a lot of things, but in terms of the space that on this topic. But you know, this is the this is the would right in the middle of this sucker this tournament, right and basketball players talk about where are you going to go with this will guys got mad hops guys can jump out of the gym. Well, you want. Talking about a stock. That's got mad hops. Take a look at GW former which was one hundred dollar stock six months ago. Now, it's one sixty five report and may some great FDA data behind them. If you wanna play in the space that has some medical stuff in medical juice behind it. It's GWP h okay. Thank you for that. Great metaphor good. Everybody gets. Okay. Coming up. How you doing hanging? Thank you. Do you want to invest like a ninja? Well, stick around because the host of American ninja warrior dock bar Baljit, be Mila is here with us live right there. He'll explain the exactly how to do just that. Two minutes. Welcome back to past money. CNBC has a financial wellness in education initiative called invest in you ready set grow in partnership with acorn it's the saving and investing. Joining us now as ach bar budget is a former NFL star co host of the TV hit show American ninja warrior, the author of everyone can be a ninja find your inner warrior and achieve your dreams. Great to have you here. Thank you so much for having me. This is cool. I may I've always watched it on TV all your lie. Oh, you're live on tape. What? Guy they met money Smith, and he always has it on in the locker room at the at work smarter. Right. I love your back story when did financial literacy become important to you. You know, financial literacy became important to me really when I made it to the NFL. And that was the first time that really was making Solomon, I real still remember my first year two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in two thousand and three on the oh my goodness. This is a lot of money. What am I going to do? And I was just telling the story. I remember, you know, my quarterback at the time. Rich Gannon telling me says I don't listen to these guys making fun of your car because driving a Pontiac nine hundred ninety eight Pontiac Sunfire. He's like make sure you invest go by home. You don't saying in Alameda and just like man, I don't know I'm having locker room conversation because I don't know enough about it. But once I started to learn about investments, it then really start to make me think where else do you. Learn about financial literacy, you don't learn about it in elementary. You don't learn about in junior high school high school or college north is not until you get into the real world where it goes. Hey, you're supposed to be responsible with your money. Like hold on. What did I ever watch anything? We never learned about this. So most important things that you did learn once you decided that this was something I need to get a grip on. Well. I think for me was that money grows. And it was kinda cool. You know in the age where everybody loves video games. Of course. I grew up in the video game air era Madden was popular. But I still never forget investing in Janice funds and just seeing, you know, twenty five hundred dollars then turn into twenty eight hundred and it just kept rolling. I'm just like this is literally not doing anything at one point. I remember always having to go check in like home. David doing horrible. Why did it go up? And you know, that you know, the game part of the kind of made a cool to see your money grow. You know, you always hear, you know, at least me growing up in south central Los Angeles. You hear people say, oh, yeah. Those guys they got a lot of money. They just they wake up and they make money. And I was like this is happening. This is really happening. It was cool sort of awakening as well. When you left pro-football realized how much you had saved in your career, and what your subsequent earning years. We're going to be that you had to get more of a handle on how gonna make a living for the rest of my life. Well, yeah, that's the that's the one thing. I had a dream of playing ten years in the NFL. I didn't end up playing ten years in the NFL. I'm the only having four years in the NFL. And you know, here I am at twenty seven twenty eight years old just thinking, what am I going to do now with the rest of my life. I'm still in my twenties. I got a low way to go. And but I've been very fortunate now to be able to host to show American Inge warrior and have a post career that is really kind of helped me out financially now getting into writing. Book having my book, everyone can be a ninja comes out a day after my fortieth birthday. So some pretty cool may send about yeah. It was pretty cool. So a couple things that it'd be sort of live by fear is our greatest enemy say, and how self doubt fueled the determination that you have, you know, for me, I, you know, I I just think about the just the different points in my life where you know, I was overcome with fear. I think about the fear of growing up in south central Los Angeles. I am I ever gonna make it out. Am I going to make it to eighteen years old and transferred that when I got into college and trying to make continue NFL in my good enough? I had a superstar brother who was killing it in the league while I was in college. And I thought man what I'd be able to make it. But I even take that into financials because financial I think so many of us are afraid of investing because we don't like what does that mean? And you know, what if it goes down, and if you're emotional about it, then it's very hard to really try to trust the investment process. But I always say on the other side of fear. And I talk about this in the book on the. Other side of fears something magical, and I think we see how volatile the market is. Right. But when you're fray because the stock market just went down, and all of a sudden if you look at it over the history of it you go. Wow. Like on the other side of this. This is great. I'm glad that I took the time to be patient and invest in this. And now, look I'm reaping the benefits. Have you had the opportunity to go and speak guy. And I've done this once or twice you speak to some of the NFL teams NBA teams some of these athletes, so the they actually have some better literacy than they have presently. Right. And we do I mean, I think the NFL has done a better job as far as like getting these players aware realizing that there's a big gap. Because all of a sudden, you expect in these guys who were so young and coming into a lot of money, and they're supposed to be genius. It's unfair. It really is unfair to the modern athlete to think that you throw millions of dollars at them and they're supposed to be like geniuses, and it doesn't work that way. So I think the most important thing is really surrounding yourself with people who are knowledgeable about this in who has your best interest. But you also have to understand. Your why? And I think that's what it comes down to investing. If you don't know why you're investing in what you want to invest in. What you want your future to be your financial future than is very easy to live in the now in to buy this jury into buy this car and to look cool for the Graham just in case you guys during ram. Yes. It's a cool with Esa Graham. Are you on the ground? Quickly athletes for education. It's kind of what Pete was asking. You about sort of spreading the knowledge. Yes, you know, athletes for education was a nonprofit that I was involved in when I was in college no longer around. But it was amazing. And I just I felt like it was a responsibility. Once I started to like once I went through the shock process of making money out of college. Like, I gotta make sure that other kids who are going to come in. Whether it's in as a lawyer, doctor engineer an athlete I wanted to make sure that they knew coming into money like make sure you start learning and having a conversation about investment in how it works. Great having. Yes. Thank you so much. Where is also a member of the CNBC financial wellness council. NBC universal and Comcast ventures investors in acorns final trade. You're next. For final traits. Pete j tell that was delta, Dan, untilt and guy selfless there Scott that does it for us. Thanks so much for watching why tomorrow night mad money begins now. At fidelity, you get value. You won't find anywhere else decisions. They're clear costs they're lower than ever and account fees. There's zero so you can invest with zero trade offs open an account today at fidelity dot com slash trading zero account minimums in zero counties apply to retail brokerage accounts. 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The Techie with 1M Subscribers (w/ Joma Tech)

Noah Kagan Presents

51:44 min | 3 months ago

The Techie with 1M Subscribers (w/ Joma Tech)

"I think the key to having a healthy revenue as a content creator is to have as many orthogonal revenue streams as possible revenue streams that do not cannibalize each other for example. If i'm selling joma class. I'm not gonna do like a sponsor video on like another like another coding tutorial website. Right because dem spending it on that platform means. They have less money to spend on my platform. What does sixty bastards editor. Boy noah aka eight rabbi can't lose a big noah kagan in today's episode. I talk with joe attack. This is a youtuber. I know you're like i'm tired of youtubers got there so interesting is a silicon valley tech nerd. Who makes super funny. Videos actually has a day job at a tech and he makes you videos really really interesting guy and his ultimate goal is actually to become a director and build a multi-million dollar media empire if you've ever want to learn about how to have a fulltime job plus gross side-hustle his youtube channel over one million. Subs you're gonna love this episode. This conversation you enjoy three to five things one the downfalls of creating content to get external validation. I know have struggled with that too why he only releases one video a month three white entertaining content trump's educational content. I'm still figuring out for why he's creating a dating show and five how he plans to build a gimblett media youtube injury those five things plus even more nuggets along the way before we the show mixture. Subscribe to my youtube channel. I'll wait and see to concepts okay. Dork i literally nothing to do all day. Just do it. You got it to concentrate right cool and then make sure your subscribe to be number one digital marketplace for entrepreneurs just go there thrown your email see amazing products grow your business. Make a lot of money retire on the beach. Get me miata and listen to the show. Also special pre shout out to listener. Brian clean of america. Sounds like someone who owns home depot stock. You left her view saying definitely my favorite business. Podcast i love. Dog knows practical. No nonsense advice and discussions with people. The same offers up some of the most valuable insights and information. You're going to get damn man. That was nice. I like you guys. Thank you and they give you the one you listeners really means a lot and if you wanna shout out in a future episode lead comment on or leave an interview anywhere aligned the you listen to the show. I check every single one of them. How's life pretty good pretty good. I mean new york now. So i have lots of things to do even during quarantine because lots of things are open now so i like that. You're like living every asian guys dream. Is it okay. What what's the. I grew up with in san jose. All my best friends are asian. Like i'm living with an asian here. I'm like you got just limited dream like make cool stuff have fun on the internet. Make a lot of money. Like how much dolls. I'm not sure if it's everyone's dream but it's definitely closer to mine to be honest. It's it's not as fun as you'd think unless you really like creating content. I think that's the number one thing that i want to say i like i. I still have a fulltime job. So it's not completely a dream. And and i do enjoy the full time job to. I don't work there a lot. Even though that it's supposed to be full-time don't tell my manager. They're not gonna watch them somewhere. Yeah excellent excellent but yeah. Let's say i work at a very big tech company so you can get away with working like less than ten hours a week really. Yeah yeah it's possible. I mean you you kind of have to engineer your own role into this role where you just don't need to do a lot of things so in all for example if you were in more on the infrastructure than you. Don't have that many meetings because you don't need to work with cross functional partners if it's less product facing than you don't need to pm as much so that minimizes during your meetings. So that way you know as long as you do well like coding. Wise done you know. That's fine as long as you ship. Stuff you prioritize. There's one tip die like to tell people so you do get requests from other teams or other. People say you can do this do that. I just ignore them and eighty percent of the time. They don't come back so you know that. Eighty percent of the time. It's it's not useful work so just just ignore them. This is not good advice for for people on my channel. So hopefully hopefully they're not going to slack off at their own work but yeah so. What do you do for ten hours. I try to just live my life. Happily i walk around. I take a lot of walks these days. I honestly sound like a grandpa. But it's nice because you know when you walk around. I think of contact. I think of ideas things i wanna pursue. And that's kind of like the lifestyle. I wanna design for myself is that i wake up. I think about things to do. And then if i want to do them i just do it. And hopefully it pays off and you know all could be financially. Secure that way right. That's like the dream you know you just wake up. Do whatever you wanna do and hopefully get paid for it. So that's why i'm getting close to there. I'm still not a hundred percent there but yeah but let's say the other ten hours. I would say like i do some editing. I do some content creation. I talk a lot of friends during the day. And then also my girlfriend and watch grey's anatomy for like three hours so a typical week of yours is ten hours. You're actually working with air quoted a real work at the company. And i would say it's real work but it's only ten hours of focused work ten hours. A focus work ten hours of content creation and then like the other hundred forty thirty hours a week. You're just like walk in having sex eating risen. Adamy have pretty much I play a lot of valor to like the video games and stuff like that. Yeah and i mean. I should really time myself to see. Exactly how much work on each things. But let's say it's very different like for example. If i'm if. I'm planning to publish a video. Sometimes i work like forty hours a week on that video right before i publish it. So it's kind of hard to say that every week is the same How were you not living stream. This is like sounds amazing dream. You're like it's pretty good isn't this. Isn't that like a dream life. I mean there are things that can improve like. I do wanna be a better writer better director and stuff like that and i'm not there yet right. 'cause 'cause my dream is to become a film director and i'm far from that so i guess the other half is just like you trying to grow as a person and are you at the place that you wanna be. And that's like the missing piece. I guess you feel like you're not you don't feel like you're growing much one he. I don't think i'm growing as much as wine in terms of how good i am getting at. Orly how close am i getting at to becoming like a film director. Something more like traditional will you are director right you just. You're directing your own videos. Kind of director. Richard dream without aspiration like you wanna like motion picture enough flicks grey's anatomy season eighteen. Exactly exactly. that's exactly it. I do want to do more traditional things just because I in some ways it. It really challenges you because right now you know whenever i make videos like i'm the one writing at run and producing it an acting in it so i'm not really learning how to work with other people. I think that's my weakest point. I'm not very good at working with other people hiring scaling. That's a major weak point. And i wanna grow that and i feel like by being more traditional director. That's what you have to learn. You have to learn how to work factors you have to learn how to work with cinematographers etcetera etcetera. It's funny because one. I'm happy to tell you. I don't know if you know much background. Or what worked on app. Sumo yeah dot com and as one of the first people at facebook started to. Yeah then if you have things somehow to talk to you about that if Trying to be helpful but it's interesting because a lot of people aspired to make money in half things without having to deal with a lot of people i think they're they're various stages of where people want again life right so the first stage is they wanna be financially comfortable. I and wants to financially comfortable. They wanna have purpose. And i feel like getting to financial stability. It takes two things it takes. You know making a lot of money but then also being able to accept that you don't need that much money to live a happy life. I guess you know 'cause some people can say. Oh i need a million dollars and then later on oh i need ten million one hundred million billion right and if they're still not happy than than i think there's an issue there it's because like they don't really realize what Like they don't know how to their money to make themselves happy. And i feel like once you've achieved the money or maybe even the status depending on some people you realize that those things don't really matter what you want. Is you want to become the person you envision yourself to be. And i wanna be someone. That's like very creative. And very collaborative. And i feel like most of the joy comes from learning from other people and i feel like as a director you can learn a lot from different people but honestly yes. You're totally right. That i don't want people hate right. I mean there's a stigma to like meetings and working and stuff like that and that's because most of the time you're forced to working people you don't like especially if you work at a job or like at a company that you don't own than you don't have a choice you know you work with people that you might not like but then if you're director or if you're the owner of your company up sumo you get to create your own. Culture hired people you want to hire. You know get inspired by people who work for you. So i think that's the goal right creating your own community that supports you. What brings you joy being able to create. Really cool stuff honestly. It doesn't matter if it's content video content or maybe even the company by as long as you build something and you feel that while this is a piece of art like a business can be a piece of art. I believe and i think that brings me. joy Has fashion to being able to create something that you proud of. And the funny thing is every time i watch my own videos on my scrap. So it's really hard for me. Like i'm happy in a way that i designed a life for me. could pursue stuff. I want pursue. But i'm also really hard on myself. Whenever i make videos or anything creatively on unlike it's not good it's craps cringe. That happens a lot. Yeah i i love your videos man thank you. I really appreciate that. I'm a great director. You take something that i think. It's interesting to learn more about that. We'll get into it but you you make it entertaining to watch. Oh yes yes yes. Thank you thank you. I mean that means a lot to me. 'cause i'm not sure if my content is interesting to watch for everyone or like most people because sometimes i just think like oh the only watch videos because they want again to tech companies which is widely watched my videos because they just wanna learn how to get the tech companies but lately i do feel that there are people watching my videos for entertainment purposes which i really enjoy and i'm very happy about and you could see that he could see that in terms of the ship the content i. I used to make an end die. Make now or i guess one thing. Why don't mancha's do the full-time thing. Why even have a day job. I guess one thing that my work gives me is that inspiration in terms of The culture like for me to make jokes about culture. I have to be in the tech culture so it does help me get inspiration and also. There's there's this There's this internet website at my company where they have memes posted and sometimes Pretty good and and and i might copies of them and make them into video format. People enjoy that interesting. You know it's One of companies is like you have your day job in your life experiments so he moved in our business right. It's like you get your kind of playground and knowledge and expertise in freshness here and then you bring that into like the main thing and there's like some of the have less to lose s with abc's the main thing we have all these kind of like side products that we created experiments over the years. It's like well from some of them. Were like oh. That's cool that's working. Let's bring that me thing back in china that's awesome by like you get the mean more importantly as a means i mean that's only reason the credit company exactly for most most your because i was wondering i wonder what is days are like as you put out a video about a month. Seems like yeah and then you're not working much. Sounds like. I wonder what he does do all day. I now at to be honest. I do feel a little bit guilty. Sometimes it were I feel like i don output as much but then i kind of I i read somewhere. Like i think it was a tweet. I think it was an avowed. He said something about like the cost of productivity is creativity side now. I feel good about myself like well. I'm not productive but it helps my creativity. I don't know if that's true for me. But i like to think so but is true versus the you know there's a lot i was talking with some friends who are productivity youtubers. This morning not All three of them like yeah goof off a lot. Yeah exactly i i. I think that's that's key to being productive. You don't wanna burn yourself out. I did work a lot. When i started my channel. I think think. I spent like forty hours on youtube and forty hours on at work so that so it was really really hard and i did burn out and i said oh it's it's not just not worth it and i think part of the burnout is also not hitting your goals totally. I think that's ki- like people can work hard if they enjoy it and if in all their outcomes are great but when you work really hard on the youtube channel and the growth is not there then you get really disappointed. I think that's what happens to a lot of youtubers because they go viral once or twice and the expect that. Oh this is gonna be. The number of subscribers are number of us will get from now on. But that's not true because that's just like a little a little viral video. That's getting all these views and then later on wednesday create more videos they don't get the number of expected views and then they got all depressed. Because they're trying to overcompensate by just creating more videos but that doesn't help because like their views per video are going down while you know while they're trying so hard to to like a close that gap but it's not gonna work in antipersonnel my podcast so i feel you on like i wanted to get a hundred thousand downloads in episode i got like twenty to twenty five thousand which is really good for podcast and then one hundred thousand sounds and i quit for a while to break as i if i would have just kept going eventually. I would've got there but it was just 'cause my expectations were so off and then it. I think it's true for this content for all of this stuff. I'm a good starter and so working on. Sometimes you're hiring help or finishing was like if i would just like how do we sustain this next ten years. How do i find the format and enjoyable you. You know you also want to see some rewards from it. Sounds like hey. I enjoyed and i can do for a very long time so i guess that's interesting is that is that what you thing. Maybe you do like one video a month. I realized that it doesn't matter. If you upload frequently are not. I feel like a lot of people like learn about this myth where you have to post once a week off. The youtube will punish you. I don't think that's true. I think the youtube algorithm just accelerates what users are pella. How users of behaving how your viewers are behaving right so for me. I feel like if i just make one good video. It's worth like ten. Should he videos. Which is why prefer to post once a month and it goes potentially viral. and also. There's this kind of like a scar city thing. Where if you only post once a month people will get very excited. That you're posting deli. Oh my god jomo posted. And then they'll share it to people and then that might trigger something on youtube. Oh yeah video. Sharable and stuff like that. But if i post every week. They're like oh it's the he posts every week. I'm sure my friends sought some night going gonna share it to him. I just theory. I'm not sure that's true. I guess there's different marketing approaches to like the quantity of content Like think about Like music videos or k pop stars day only post like once every year or once every six months but when it goes it goes crazy on. Everyone watches them. It's funny because like. I don't think shitty i think definitely there's somebody as we put out. That are a lot better than others. Like good one but it feels still to some extent like it's still feels hitter misdemeanor toy foshan like better and so then i. It gets me into the quantity game. We'll do do as many as possible. But i like. i like. you're not like other opinions to other approaches. I do like that strategy though. The the quantity. Because i feel like that strategy is pretty decent. Because you don't know what's gonna go viral. You don't know what's going to work well so if you do a lot more opportunities for each of the are there more opportunities to go viral because you just put out more videos right. But i'm not saying that people who post frequently post shitty videos on like that's not true. I like for example. If i had the bandwidth to post once a week and make same kind of videos i would but i i just i just can't. I don't have team to help me. Unfortunately every thought about building our team. I have thought about building team but every time i hired like an editor or like a producer and stuff like that after a month or two. That's doesn't work out like it. Fit is not there so i have a lot of trouble there by also haven't like advertised a an open position yet. So maybe i just had like. I didn't have enough a big enough sample size to see talent. Yeah i mean. I think mechanic suggestion. Maybe oh yeah. Of course please i mean would you Well sometimes sometimes i do. I think about some feedback just depends who was saying it. I'd be curious because a lot of people have hired are that i've tried to hire. That came an easy like it. Sounds like a little bit to you like it was the first person in the network sucks are. I'm not doing anymore joey. Hiring has never come easy but it's always come effectively meaning. The first person that comes needs. It doesn't really work but if you put out a job and you actually put in effort like it extremely rewarding but like it's you get the result you get the return. I'd be curious what happened since you wanna do more. That's up to you. I can't decide that like if you put it out even on your community tab or you put it out to your list and you had a little bit of a process like how much you get the reward for the amount of input you did. Yeah honestly i. I think i just didn't put enough effort to hiring. I think one of the reasons is a little bit afraid of working with other people because then they see how bad of an actor. I am all the edits. Or what do you mean yeah. 'cause i'm really bad actor and i filmed the same thing like multiple times. Maybe sometimes even twenty times. And i edited so that looks good. And i'm a little bit embarrassed like imagine if i was working editor then they'll realize. Oh my god is terrible but But yeah i'm trying to get out of my shell trying to hire more and more people. I'm actually starting to other channels. They there aren't any videos yet. But there's going to be two separate channels that are completely different than my talk channel more. The i feel like i might be a one hit wonder with jomo attack. I'm not sure if i can do it again. So in some sense it's my way to prove to myself that hey i could make entertaining videos. That is not related to tech. I do feel like making tech videos right now. Is like a crutch to me. The only reason why my videos work is because i'm a disney and no one in this niche is trying to be entertaining so i feel like that's the only reason why succeeding. So that's why. I have like two different channels. One of them is more of of large channel about me in new york city. So it's lyrical joma in nyc and then another channel. It's kind of like a dating show where It's less about me. But i produce this dating show where three guys and three girls come together at in like in a video chat in the hopes to find love. They're all single and then we can watch them interact and then i'm going to hire like a palace may be there. Maybe it's like a bunch of youtubers and they'll just comment on their interactions. It's kind of like the japanese reality tv. Show terraced house terrorist house yet. Terrorists g. r. a. c. e. house. Yet it's kind of like that show but for you too and yeah. I hope it does well do this. I haven't heard that. I like that lasts. Eddie i really like like seeing you new york. I'm sure it'd be entertaining. It'd be fun. i think. Everyone likes relationships. And seeing how people need and i find it fascinating just one thing that was is startling or surprising is the not i would say syndrome but like how you behind me. They'd see the real you. 'cause i think a lot of the other ones goes out to something. So you mean. I've run these companies. We've run into this is and i'm like do actually know anything and like maybe i'm awful shit and like it's interesting that i guess ever. It is comforting at times. I guess no other also are thinking that Yeah i think. I think everyone thinks like that to be honest and i'm still trying to get more confidence but i think those two channels if they if they succeed. I think it would really give me confidence that. Oh you know i'm not. It's not just because of tech. I'm actually a decent youtuber. What does matter man. 'cause i'm mark zuckerberg is only created one fucking product ever like. He created one thing and he's very smart. He's made good decisions about the business. I'm like you just want. He approved to fucking anyone like he hit a home run. I think you've hit a homerun million subscribers would like. I'm i guess i'm in tech and i find it entertaining so i get the stop but it's like. I wonder why you have to do that to yourself. Anybody yeah you're right honestly. I shouldn't that that's a bad mental habit of mine in always trying to prove two different sets of people honesty even starting my channel. It wasn't the healthiest thing. I wanted to prove to these viewers that oh i'm smart or like i'm funny or i could create this content and then later on i'm like a. I know these people like me by wanna impress these people like. Let's say. I wanna impress these people so i went to. I had a phase where i was reading a lot of creator economy stuck on twitter and i read all these articles on. I thought to myself. Oh they're not totally accurate. I think kinda wrong to be honest. And then i started writing on such stack writing on twitter about a crater economy stuff and then i realized the only reason why was writing is because i wanted to get the approval of all these. Vc's our founders. And i wasn't doing it for myself. Like i wasn't enjoying it so i i think you're right about. Why do you feel like you need to prove yourself and you should only focus on what you enjoy. And that's true and sometimes i catch myself saying oh wait. Do i really want to do this or is it just impressed. Subset of people. You're right maybe. I should not do dayton channel. No kidding look you should or the fuck you want if it is that stuff i mean inspiring to hear you say that stuff because i think as i've made more money and as i've gotten older i'm like. Is this going to make money doing this to prove myself to this. You know we're we're having some things going on simone. It's like what do i really want to be doing. And if it's which piece of that is like genuine and sometimes you you know as you suck it up. You do some shit done. It's interesting explore that like someone in this past day of the week and they're like why do you think you two videos on pre fuck enjoyable and so it's an amazing also. Second guess. I really want to be doing that. Am i like this. Actually what. I'm joiners or something else and i guess i enjoy. I enjoy the interactions. And i think you can. I do almost signed to film anything. I there's people who like pick up trash that are like from constructively pretty happy. I was like washington today. Yeah no. I think that's totally true. I i also read somewhere. Somebody said there's no such thing as passion. Passion comes from mastery or something like that like you work on it so much that it you develop that passion. There's no such thing as like. Oh this is definitely what i wanna do. And then there's a lot of people who drop their jobs or like jobs or careers just to pursue what they think they want but then like a few weeks later they realized it's not that that's not what they wanted was interesting with the productivity in talking about procrastination like all their advice about like which tools to use. How schedule to like to do. They're like just finding you wanna do. And then you're not worried about does not be worried less about across the nation and whatever aspect that it has like an obvious advice. Also like oh. Yeah if i'm not enjoying it makes it much much harder to go. do that. Sounds like they got. One of the guys was talking about how he gets up at six. I guess when. I wake up until he gets up at six am because he said he likes to go bike riding at that time. And he's like. I love bike riding so i don't mind getting up at six. Am and i appreciate that. Are you get up. i can see. You're getting a probably like noon. Yeah that's right. how not you know either. Neuner one pm but But but have an excuse. it's I sleep at three. Am or four am and it's because my work is at pacific time so that that's my excuse. Yes that's why trim you're literally every eight. You you ever seen the movie big big with tom. Hanks it's like ninety man. You gotta watch it. You'll love it. It's like one thousand nine. It's busy this kid who wants to be an adult and he gets to be an adult body and have all this money and toy. She's i'm not saying you're a little kid living the dream dude like you're living new york making a bunch of money doing youtube stuff waking up at noon. I don't make that much money in in case your listeners. Think make a lot of money. I i'm not. I'm not that wealthy. Like is just enough for me to screw around with projects and stuff like that. But i can't buy like a jet or like a lamborghini and stuff like that you know. That's definitely not at that level Two things about that number. One the You just need rich friends. So don't have to worry about making. That's always help you. Mary rich or find rich friends. The other thing that is interesting to other things one. I rented a lambeau. Last year. When i was living here and i pulled up to this restaurant maestros and the guy was watching the guy outside the valet was watching youtube videos on how to do business and the newswatch gary energetic chuck and he's like hey man he's like that's a great lambeau dude. How'd you get it house like it's a rental just rented it for a day. You only two hundred eighty dollars. Yeah free cheetah lambeau and then fly private. Those could do that more often. I've only a few times. But i guess that the thing. I was wondering how much this is chris. Road like how much money financial aid. So you're saying like or financial security auto have much like how much is much like. Oh fuck you. I'm like i'm solid Everyone has a different number to find out. He i think that that's difficult qasem. It really depends how much you spent. I feel like you should focus more on spending or don't force yourself to spend less but try to be conscious on on like what spendings don't give you as much happiness like for example getting a lambo but i do feel like if you make like three educate year. That's just like a normal Senior software engineer. I think that's way more than enough. Not states enough. Maybe not enough but i think someone making three hundred year. That's enough. that's that's very good. Yeah yeah even after tax in new york or california is still getting hundred fifty takeoff exactly and i think that's a lot of money so so there's two types of people that wash me some people already intact and yet the mic like three. But they're not satisfied. So i'm mostly talking to that right now. The for people who are actually working real jobs because honestly sometimes i don't even consider software. Engineering has a real job which is so easy and nice and and you get paid a shitload of money but for people who have real jobs like yeah. It's it's difficult. It's difficult to get to financial. Security is not an easy thing right. Like i would say you'd have to look at least like a million the bank to kind of feel safe in this weather. At least yeah. Yeah so it's not super easy to get financial security by. Do think that once you reach it should really reevaluate your decisions and think about what are you doing. That's purely for the money. And what are you doing for fun or like sorry for for yourself. Yeah completely. I mean that is i mean. I noticed when. I didn't even had some money in the bank. It was only. I actually secured until i had a few million dollars. It went had a million. Actually i go broke. I can go. But i think the point is like how do you still live without that. And that's how you make more money which it kinda intuitive. Because you're like no. I don't know just go do it. Go do the thing that you think will make money. But when i've done that i always gave up versus like hey videos. Technical people like actually like we get it from cool sophomore. Oh make money. Doing not yeah. My brother used to have this same. It's like the dumbest thing ever but it's it's his tip that he gives everyone he said. Just get rich quick. That's it just get rich quick. But i think what he means by that is okay. You know if you are going to spend the first few years of your life working for a company that you don't joy try to at least maximize revenue potential working in finance. Offer engineering stuff like that. So that you can get to a point where you're not gonna make decisions based on a ten percent raise or twenty percent raise. You're gonna make decisions based on what you enjoy doing. And that's what he did. He used to work in finance. I think used to as a quanta to sigma and after four years. I think he has. He had a decent amount of money so he could have gone to like a as a portfolio manager for another firm and that would be probably like a huge pay bump but instead he worked for a startup for on all three k. A year. But you know but he was like one of the co founders and then that that started god bought for like almost sixty million or something like that and he probably made more money doing a startup than that want job. And i do truly believe that if you do something that you enjoy. You're going to do a lot better and if you do a lot better. D. outcomes are like the. The payoff will be greater. You know so in some sense because you're not thinking about money you're actually gonna make more money. Hopefully i do have this theory that if you do what you enjoy and you really good at it. I think that's an important part. You will get paid for it. Yeah i like that. That was nice to hear it. Menu reflects for your career. You try to engineer. Facebook and google or the video so i started as a data scientist at facebook and then now i work as a software engineer at A big tech company. I guess what. I was thinking about. Or i just did get the job of faced with what i was thinking. That was interesting. Was that like if people can't do it in one way or like. Hey it's not working as a developer. I thought it was actually interesting. Like oh well maybe the content creator about this stuff. Right could do another type of thing in the same thing. I'm interested in like i'm guessing anson tech just like i am. I mean i do have some interest in tech. There are a lot of successful youtubers related to tack that you know that might not work for google. That might not work for facebook. Do really well On youtube. And i think that's great. I think it's really important to recognize what your skills are right. I was fortunate enough to to land a position at a like facebook linked in and stuff like that. When i was an intern so it was pretty easy for me to land aldis tech jobs out of school. You know but if i didn't go to waterloo for example and or or like. I didn't study than i wouldn't be able to do that. But maybe i would still do youtube because inherently i do feel that i do have the skills for it and eventually i'll discovered and eventually i will get success from that. It's kinda crazy you can make more money being a content creator than the the engineering jobs. Yeah i mean it is pretty crazy but if you think about it. It's not that crazy as a software engineer. You don't have as much impact as you think you know you work on small features you work on you know small migrations and stuff like that as a content creator your content is infinitely scalable so you can reach as many people as you can't like you can reach ten millions of people and then as long as you have the power to reach people and that you attention equals money so you can make a lot of money being a contact traitor. But the thing is it's difficult right. I mean you're competing against all the other content creators. there's only a limited amount of eyeballs on youtube. I mean youtube is growing. So that's good for all of us but there will be a point where it stops growing where people won't spend as much time on youtube but then yeah you'll be competing against everyone else so it is awesome that you could be a concentrator and make a bunch of money but you also have to realize that it's actually more competitive than software engineering for example. I didn't think about that. But yeah at any level of success like there's less people available to do it potentially read like if you're a baseball player. It's like been meeting people who didn't make it to the major leagues but like are pretty close and so to make it at these elite levels like i think what what i heard. You say. at least the way you'd have to find enjoyment honestly work really hard. It's not like i'm gonna be rigid this Exactly and i do see a lot of people trying to get onto youtube because they wanna make the money and the quickly realized that all way too hard it's way too time consuming and it's not worth it to be honest like money wise. It's not a good decision to start a youtube channel. Especially if you're software engineer right if you're a software engineer making two hundred a year and you wanna spend forty hours a week making youtube videos and getting like two dollars two dollars a month in ad rates like did tell you not worth it you know people thought it was crazy when i was working at facebook and spending so much time doing my youtube channel but the reason that i kept going on it was because i really enjoyed it was my passion so i continued but economically. It doesn't make any sense. I just spent that time. I could have spent that time working at facebook. Doing you know instead of working like forty hours a week. What if i worked eighty hours a week. I'm pretty sure gone like many promotions and lots of Discretional equity not discretionary equity. Yeah did you feel like you went into the programming stuff because your parents because what it's interesting earlier was a job. I want to be a director but you do on youtube. Your director producer and actor and screenwriters and if there was no money in our world would you have just done gone writing to film or was it was always an interesting programming and then pay it also makes a lot more money. Guaranteed if there was no money in programming i would have gone to investment banking right. So that's what happens to people who are just like generally smart at school. if you've succeeded at school you get good grades and stuff like that but you have no passion or interest. The number one thing that you do is just go to a profession where it's the easiest to make a bunch of money back then it might have been investment banking consulting and stuff like that. I feel like nowadays is suffer engineering. I do feel that most people who go into software engineering. Don't really care by offering engineering. And i was kind of like that. That was the only reason why i went into. Programming is because i had a knack for it at made a lot of my right out of college. So that's the only reason why. I chose it if i had infinite money when i was a kid. If my parents were wealthy than yeah no i would definitely go into like a media for sure hundred percent. What ways is a critter now. Do you make money so you have to bad sense. Because i thought you had the joma class scherzer's. I was talking with samir from collins. Merely just like the different business models that the co creator economy. I'm always gonna others doing it. Yeah so. I have gym class which is just a online top form. It just videos. To be honest people subscribe to it and then they get videos like coding tutorial videos. And that's because a lot of people ask me about. How do you learn python. How do you learn structures and stuff like that. That's like the biggest portion of my revenue and dan. There's at sense and dander sponsored videos by don't do sponsored videos anymore. Because i use my inventory to promote my own joma close but basically for me i think the key to having a healthy revenue as a crater is to have as many orthogonal revenue streams as possible revenue streams that do not cannibalize each other for example. If i'm selling joma class. I'm not gonna do like a sponsor video on like another like another coding tutorial website. Right because damn spending it on that platform means they have less money to spend on my platform. But if i'm selling like hellofresh than yeah it's cool. I'm targeting other people you know. it's it's not a coating related stuff like that so that is interesting. Just the basically do create this from scratch. Rather yeah i created joma classroom scratch and i did have a small small team of one editor and one animator to help me with and it was really great. 'cause the animator She's actually a phd student and she also works intact so that you know so. It's a lot easier to translate my technical scripts into visuals. Because if you're not intact you have no idea what i'm talking about so you won't know how to animate these data structures and stuff. I like your point about staying. You know you have a day job because it also kind of gives you a lot of inspiration for this. I wonder if you did the concentration. In just built out joma classic an interesting business. While there dipping reflecting on i met a mountain biker and he has a suspect tax for burn peak like really fun to watch amazing videographer. He's not the world's mountain biker. Nine clubs but he's probably one of the most well-paid mountain bikers in the world and when he goes when you go to non she gets a lot more attention than the guys winning championships and the guys doing in its. It was kind of fascinating to really think about kind of similar. You like not. I'm not insulting you. But i was like his. You know this guy. Is he the best grammar in the world definitely. Not i'm definitely not the best programmer You might be. But i thought it was fascinating if you're not even not you're not but like you are the best program who also is really good making contin. I think that's I think that is key. I do that to succeed as a content creator. You don't need to be the best in whatever you're doing like it does help like imagine if you are like for example justin conn justin console twitch for like a billion dollars so that when he talks about business. People will listen. He has that brand already. He has that credibility but to be good in content. You just have to understand how to make whatever you're interested in in a cinematic form or in a form that's digestible Especially because like only if you're trying to grow an audience i think entertainment trump's learning And it's pretty obvious just by looking at the views like you have really really great high-quality coding videos and tech videos on youtube but they don't get that many views per video because the problem is you watch these videos and your today. I'm going to learn python but then once you're like okay. I don't wanna i don't wanna learn piney more than are you still going to watch that channel not right and that's just how Help people are like once you give up. You're not gonna continue learning so you're not gonna watch these channels anymore but for entertainment at site. Oh i enjoyed that. I wanna be wanna entertain myself again next time so i'll keep watching this person and it's great. Yeah like yet. The thing they said about the mountain biker. It reminds me of gamers when you're a pro at whatever game that you're playing like league of legends or Or valent if you're one of the best players and you're in a competitive team you might not make a lot of money but if you're entertaining ninja for fortnight than you make you probably make more than any of these competitive players so the more of the story is don't be the best coder but like makeup videos coating or if the best marketer don't be the best marketer but like make good vietnam obviously it's not always the case issued a realistic. If you're interesting something. There are other ways of making money doing it. A friend of mine. He runs chess dot com. And you ever met someone who is play like. There's no money really in chess unless you're like maybe the best in it's like oh there are ways of making happen. If you're really interested in your creative yeah. But i would argue that if you're a content creator for chess or if you're a content creator for coding you're not a coder you're you're more of a content creator than a colder so in some sense like you can't really compare a professional chess player and a content creator about radio it was. I guess i was just eating more like there are. If you're interested whatever you wanna make profession like there's ways monte doesn't have to be as a conta- crater yeah i feel that the there's also the issue where Imagine if you really love chess and you wanna make a career out of it and you wanna play chess but then now you have to make videos and if you don't enjoy making videos than that's not gonna work out. That's a challenge with any Andrew my friend who's stained we're standing here together. He's like eventually it's work. It's always work right ideal. You want to find something. That doesn't feel like working. It's like man. I gotta do this game get paid and that's dream for most people because like sitting around all day. I think it'd be fun. I mean i think it sounds like a day But it's like let me find the career of like i like get a direct and i gotta be a heart attack like in. That's like my jogging taste. Like how cool is that. Yeah for sure for sure. What are their up. One thing i was curious. Have you built or have you built videos like i love. Your trading bought one your more recent videos. I guess the thing goes scherzer's like have you. How have used engineering in your concentration. Like in because i think engineers probably smart people on earth and then the other thing i was curious around was like have you built other things you haven't released or you're excited to new building for these videos at least I build it specifically for the video itself. But i i always have like ideas of things i want to build. But if it's not good content usually don't do it but there are things that i want to exist like for example i do want and imdb for youtubers because You know like. I said is very hard for me to hire people. Cy wish i can just go to a uber and see who worked on their videos and like If i go to Let me choose a cooler crater Who's a cool crater Okay do you know matt davila. Yeah is like the gold standard. Let's say mark rober So good right. And i say oh i wanna know who edits his videos than. I wish that i wish is in. Imdb page for that. So that i can also offer them a contract job or something like that. That's a great idea. It solves my problem at least. And then there's this other idea where i might not use it but for people who want to spend more my under videos. I wish what they can do is kind of do a little ipo under own under pre released videos where people can buy shares of the video. So don't get they'll get like a percentage of the revenue from the video or like the sponsor revenue from that video so that they can count up front the money so that the use that money to make that video and then the people who invested in that video will get paid off through. I liked that. I think that's really clever. Well there's i heard of cycle use stir like some new creator modernization. Platform used her. All i think i know what marizzio but what i saw and i was like didn't really seem that interesting to me. Eric eric. One of my favorite craters youtube. Yes one of the things he did in stir you can pitch idea like he. Has these pitch ideas if it uses your ideas you get a cut of the revenue in the us stirs away of splitting it up so like the ad revenue kind of gets bucket. It's like oh these people have the topics like this person was hoping that the script in like kinda you can kinda Divvied up that way. I thought that was but similarity with yours. It's almost like goes on this. End t trend. It's a little bit cloud but there's actually something that backs it is actually something tangible that backs it get something exactly right like it's actually worse some for now big clouds pure interests. I guess just pure hype. Imagine if like you actually buy share of the revenue than than yeah. There's something substantial there is your future. You wanna keep doing both. I do feel that eventually. I want to create kind of like a media company that has multiple channels running and yeah. I think that's where i want to end up. I don't see myself coating In the future. So i basically want to build a the gimblett media of youtube. I'm not sure if you know what gimblett media is but it's by alex bloomberg. He just made a bunch of podcasts are really high quality and then he sold his company to spotify for like two hundred million but i do believe that there is a lot of potential in youtube still and i feel like people aren't tapping into traditional talent on youtube like most youtube channels are like a single person and they're like filming themselves and stuff like that but i do feel that. Youtube is the new. Tv and a lot of people say yeah. of course. it's a new. Tv people spend so much time on you too but also in the business side of things because back then actors would say. Oh i want to. I want to act in films not. Tv tv's like low tier right films is whereas at and that's because for films people get to take years to write a script years producing an unlike years of post production so it's like really pieces of art like the incentive is is to try to create a piece of art so good that people are willing to pay to watch it. Go to movie theaters and pay to watch right but for tv back then was totally different. The content you see on tv is free right for cable tv or whatever. It's free so you don't need to pay to watch television but you get ads so the business model for tv is okay. You're trying to create formats or tv. Shows that are cheap relatively cheaper to produce and you want to produce as many as possible because you want the same users to come back and then get those ad impressions. That's how you get the most money right. So the model is different from film. So being good producing tv shows like shonda rhimes totally different from producing great films for like Who makes films quentin tarantino but recently. Tv shows aren't on tv anymore. You watch on streaming services like netflix x. Or disney. So you got wanda vision that really well produced the right for the whole season and then they produce it and dandy right. It's not like before where you write for one episode. You feel matt producer Episode done right like you don't like you don't finish the season before you fell but now we have these really high quality shows like breaking bad allergies. Hbo shows and that's because the incentives they're very similar to films. Now you want people to pay for it so the pay for streaming service to have access to that can wash us specific show right like for example i pay for disney plus because i wanted to watch one division but the only place the only platform that has the same business model as tv back then which is trying to get as many views as possible. Try to get people to come back and watch. It is youtube because it's still heavily based on ads and added pressure. So i do feel. There are so much to learn from the tv industry back. Then you know how create good tv. How do you create good storylines. How do you create good reality. Tv shows unscripted shows. How do you create these. Tv shows that are just so compelling where people come back again and again right now. There are a lot youtubers that do that by accident. For example david daybreak. You know he kinda created friends in a youtube version and you got emma chamberlain. You know it's a little bit. Like kim kardashian following a single person around and isn't like a storyline and i feel like there's so much opportunity there to kind of learn from the past people who done really well on tv and apply that to you. And i feel like the people who will do that will be very very successful like one. Example is there's a book called billion dollar game where it's about three people who revolutionize tv it's It's the guy who made survivor. The guy who made big brother and aggregate who wants to be a millionaire. They revolutionized tv. So i thought okay. We'll wide don't we try to do that on youtube. It's very possible. Which is why. I'm creating that dating. Show like yeah. That's the reason why. I'm creating a dating show because i do feel that. Oh this can be a very interesting reality. Tv show for youtube. Have to make sure that you understand the differences between tv and youtube youtube Platform dir thumbnails entitles and stuff like that tv channel based and its linear. And you can't go back so as is you understand the differences between the platform but also understand the similarities between them and the fundamentals. Then you could really really great on youtube. That's what i think. Which is why. I'm starting to these other channels if i'm right. How did you find that book. I think i read a read an article somewhere and recommended it. And it's really hard to find because you can't buy to kindle version of it. You have to buy a real copy of it. How is it so far. I don't know. I read lake ten pages. You busy all week dude. You don't have time for this stuff era. i'm a really slow reader. i wish. I read more but i guess i always get fascinated with books. That are not as about as like. I like learning the things that like. If everyone's talking about one thing. I'm like that's fine. Insurance go check it out but also like the books at navy are not act like this gives me somewhat of an edge on things so like there's no audible or kindle on this stuff. Yeah it's crazy. It might not be a great book. Maybe that's why but but by like the concept you the fact that like three people revolutionized tv because when you actually read it it goes really deep into their story and it's more about like their life before and stuff like that. It's it's less on the business side on the strategy side or how to make content good. It's more bob dem getting rich. And you're like wow that's awesome. It was nice connecting with your mom. Yeah nice connected to that is arapahoe episode if you did go checkout johm attack on youtube. That's j. o. m. a. tech on youtube next a friend. You love him yoga. Let's by according together. 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08/26/21 DPS Hour 2 Adam Sandler

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08/26/21 DPS Hour 2 Adam Sandler

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Little league world series sandman will join us on the set of his latest movie. It's a basketball movie called hustle and mclovin is to have a a starring role but a cameo appearance in that movie. That'll be coming up. I think you're appearances is next month. A couple of weeks you'll be going to philadelphia to join the sanmen eight seven seven three show email address dp dan patrick dot com twitter handle at dp show. We do have a poll question. I don't know if we're going to stay with that. Poll question mclovin. I don't know if we need to. The question is who's career we want ryan fitzpatrick or jay cutler. It's pretty close. Fifty four percent ryan fitzpatrick. I thought actually since he's still playing it'd be higher. Most of the tweets are about kristen cavalry. Just to warn you. By the way you can have people went there what you don't get her because they're divorced. Yeah why. I don't know if it was a positive or negative to get her though really would like based on the show. She seemed like a lot of work. Yeah so is cutler. Cutler like a lot of work as well. That's one of those where you go. How do they have a conversation because she feels like. Hey let's talk and then he's could care less. He wants go hunting or something. yeah point. we're discussing those. Who do you think had the more money in their relationship who signed the pre-nup who gets half because he made a lot of money in his career but he's not raking it in now. I think she's big time in fashion. I don't know if something like that. Yeah i like. He made one hundred twenty two million dollars. But i don't know what she's made but she she seems to be successful. Now yes mclovin remember when he was going to be in the booth and then he went to play for miami. Everyone said he was going to be great. So why can't we get back in the booth. I don't know if he wants to. I don't know if their jobs that are available. Maybe missed his opportunity there. You don't want to bring somebody back in. Who then is going to be flighty and not want to do it in another year or two like. You're you're trying to develop teams there. And you have a lot of that with if cbs or fox. Espn like get get the team together. Finally get the team together. You just don't want him going in on second thought. I don't want to do this right. Eight seven seven three p. Show email address teepee dan patrick dot com dodgers padres. Right there as maybe the best rivalry in baseball. Both teams loaded up in the off season to battle. Each other. hasn't been disappointing although the padres are starting to fade. We just didn't know. The giants crashed the party. I remember the over under. What was the over under for giants victories this year because it was low and i thought man i. They don't have high hopes for the giants at all. But it was really probably down in the seventies seventy five wins maybe for the giants but the giants were the first team to eighty wins this year. But we had a great game with the dodgers and padres sixteen innings. Last night eventually came away with the win. Thanks to two run homer by. aj pollock. He'd had a big game saving catch the previous night and even though he was over six on the night for fernando. Totti's junior hit a home run to tie the game in the fifteenth. The dodgers came away with a win and now l. as in that series battle with the giants for the division. The padres have fallen on hard times. Pitching staff has been a failure here as of late. But there's a rivalry there and we're always looking for a great rivalry when it comes to sports and even baseball. We don't talk about the red sox the yankees the way we once did cubs cards. We don't talk about that the way we once did. What is the rivalry that we have in baseball. Not that you have to have it but it helps like you wanna have that where there's animosity there the fan bases don't like each other. And you have star power there as well. San diego has all the makings of being that next. Great team it. Just the pitchers that they brought in if not lived up to the expectation level. And you know the dodgers have a bigger budget here but when you think of the yankees is their nemesis still the red sox. It should be tampa bay but tense on sexy. Mothership is not promoting yankees. Raise sunday night. Just not knowing if a game with nine innings. It's going to extra innings. What's the policy on staying in. When used to decide all right it's a thirteenth inning. We've already gotten to the thirteen. I can't even the thirteenth and not save him. Not getting a good night's sleep some the to the end. There's a lot of people there last night. Yeah well but it's it's san diego in los angeles. But i'm wondering when you decide you. Don't worry about beating the traffic if you're you know in the twelfth inning you don't go. Hey we should get going here. You don't have to worry about that. Yes tonic if you have work the next morning and with the kids and they have school. I can understand that. You can't just stay forever. But i was on vacation at a marlins mets game in florida and we stayed for seventeen innings. The wife and daughter wanted to leave by the symptom stretch but somehow we convince them to stick it out and seventeen innings watching basically two full baseball games. I loved it. My son loved it and we had an early flight out the next morning. So you know didn't go well for the on. The girls side of san diego ran out of position. Players and twice had to use pitchers as pinch hitters both times. The dodgers intentionally walk two batters to face the pitchers after a while you go. I've seen enough baseball. I'll check out the highlights on sportscenter. I remember going to the braves games. This is before the braves were good. And i was at cnn in the eighties. And you could sit. Wherever you wanted to add a braves game at fulton county stadium and we used to start out in left field. You start out in the sunshine and then you can move to center field. And then we'd end up in right field and we'd go to games because we can get in for free and there'd be times when they'd go into an extra innings game and you go. I'm going to be back here. Probably in a couple days. I'm going to check out here. i'm good. I don't i don't need to see the braves right now. Go into extra innings. But i'm trying to think of the the longest game. I ever was witnessing in person but back then like when you're younger it's exciting because the game can end and you don't think about i got schooled in the next day or i gotta get home. It was probably like twelve or thirteen innings. I remember but it wasn't where i was thinking about. You know what the time it was. Just who's coming up next inning. Yes see the beer sales situation though that it's usually cut off. What like seven inning stretch. Maybe i think so. You have time to get a hangover in the padres dodgers. Game the real problem. Yeah mclovin. i mean it's point in the game was in san diego visas. This question really relevant to dodgers fans. Because how do you know if it's going to go to extra innings if you left in the south come on while wow love a lot of dodger fans who listen to hear mclovin where they stay up late watching the game on tubing. They're still asleep. I i lived in la for ten years. And i wish. I could say that's a myth but there is a lot of. Let's show up in the third inning and make an appearance and leaving the six and sometimes not all the fans not the hardcore ones. Where a lot of it is to be seen and not watch the game and you just kind of get out of their way to soon. Thank you todd. Well we we. Were speeding up these games. We put the automatic runner on second base to start extra innings. Forty seven of fifty two players on both these teams combined act. Active rosters appeared in the game. So forty seven out of fifty two and just to the eight runs scored in the game came in the first fourteen innings of the day. Last dad of the days of the day comes that absolute. Yes falling fun. New rule if out baseball game goes fifteen plus endings. The manager from each team has to take an at bat. They're already in uniform. They're usually former players. That would spice it up. Imagine back in the day key match. Rod gardenhire lay down sack pot. How much you get. The manager gets to pick what position he's going to play. Okay that's fair. Yeah he has to play to play yes to go out there and play a little bit. Mike sosa put the mascot again. He can't bend at the waist. He has to stand up yes time. What was the game that you were act for. All you guys where you thought. It was pretty much in the bag. I would safe to leave and then you ended up missing. Something really exciting. Listening on the radio going home. Watching is dennis eckersley no decisions. I was not at that game. I have a game in mind. And i went curious if you guys were to game and you miss an amazing ending and you were acting game and for whatever reason you like. Let's we can. I missed the end of oklahoma boise state in bowl game in arizona. And that was when you had the trick. Play in boise. State ended up shocking oklahoma. Yeah left a little early there. And that's one of those where when somebody says oh you went to the game. Yeah would you think of the ending. And i go what happened. You didn't see it. I go no then. You realize you missed an incredible ending. Their paul and i were at notre dame michigan one year when they had It was on the under the lights. A big house. And who's the quarterback laces denard robinson's in oregon. I think tommy researcher notre dame notre dame is handling. The hallway and michigan had his unruly comeback. We are with a few people who wanted to roll out because they said we were never going to get out of here and seat and i were fighting them to the point where we were in the portal. Saying wait for us wait. I don't don't run out. And they were like trying to leave. And we were almost physically holding back and we saw the ending. Yes i was at a yankee as a kid. I was at a yankee tiger game yankee stadium and it was like seven one tigers or something like that in the seventh and we decided to bail. And we're listening in the traffic. On the right from the bronx back to brooklyn and slowly incrementally the are starting to get writers off base bottom. Chris chambliss it's a game winning run. And i'll never forget that i was like seventy six seventy seven and to be at that game and that's what you go to these games to see some kind of amazing ending to not got a ticket and you had the and you have all those memories and you're leaving early for no real reason just to get on the road early and missile. Do you have any memories from the center. I really don't. That's just wondering getting married and having two kids. Miss job all happened really circa eighteen. Ninety nineteen eighty nineteen eighty but yeah after earlier. Today i was in much better shape back. Look the women and just other things. Just no women. There are couple now stream the new peacock original series heart to heart where kevin hart sits down with today's biggest celebrities for unfiltered conversations. New episodes premiering every week go to peacock. Tv dot com to sign up now. A couple of phone calls duggan. Florida leads us off. Hi doug what's on your mind today. Eight doug by. Jim in detroit joins us on the program. Good morning jim. Dan five eleven a heavy three hundred. And i'll i'll take the golden check it over the hamburger nashville Going back to your harvard reference Okay talking about did matt stafford. I heard chris tucker lear that broke down so about stafford. Detroit and i mean i. I took a lot of heat out here. I mean everybody would blame stanford out here in regards to detroit problem. He's gonna do well out there in la. And i'd say golf is gonna find out what it's like to be here in detroit and get down to the carpet. Well we have. Jared goff joining us on the program. I believe tomorrow we could ask him about that. The expectation level going from the rams to the lions laura in boston joins us on the program. Good morning laura. How are you great. What's on your mind. In regards to the fitzpatrick cutler debate cutler. In a hot minute Even though i live in boston now i lived the rest of my life and chicago and got to know him on a lot until the and stuff. And i love the sense of humor and Doing a podcast now I episodes without and he also has an incredible successful likes gourmet meats that he does also with someone. But yeah and it's really cool I sat one. But the main reason i would take cutler over to patrick is come on have you seen jay cutler. Smoking thank you. I'm sorry. I assess my quarterbacks that way at least i i don't normally do. We did add the hot guy draft. But i respect that yes mclovin. Well she says smoking's at a reference to when people would shop in cigarettes. Jay color no matter what i never thought he was a hawkeye. Hawkeye quarterback draft. No i. i wasn't going to draft him. But we didn't have a hot guy quarterback draft. We had just a hot guy drafted. We wait a minute quarterback who's got garoppolo already. Now cam nunes adam. Mack jones on that list. Hey cutler went he had the bangs and then he was on g. q. And he brushed the hair back circa two thousand thirteen. I don't remember banks longtime big. Bang guy well. He was the big bang guy. Yes big bang theory. When he had banks he was a gunslinger. But that was. That's where the big bang theory started the sec. If you're a quarterback you had big. Bang's john parker wilson big bang mary today j. Mccarron have bang did early in his career then. He brushed it back when he started web. Yeah if i could get katherine. Webb i brush my hair back to all righty once again. We've turned on the left turn signal from the right. Lame will take a break. More phone calls. Adam sandler i believe is joining us next time. He is expected to call in the next ten minutes or so. Is that a yes. Yes okay. he is expected. Okay all right. We'll take a break back after this on the dan patrick show. It's amazing. discover match all the back. 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Identity as so funny robert to Call me up and it was like three. In the morning i go. Hey hey. What's going on bobby cured through the movie. Unless i said well. What do you mean unless mclovin club. So yeah that's how bad happened. Any i miss ya. How are you i'm good. I'm good You got you got a lot of nba players in this movie. Unbelievable yes. I just shot. Yesterday did a scene. Doc rivers and And i and a bunch of the sixers were in there to bias. The trees curry Who else was there tire. Each maxi all nice goal. Nice guys and and that. Today i'm going to play. I'm going to do like this scene where there's a pick up game. It's all these all these. An one guys are coming to play not not nba guys. Better much an wet one guys that come into the park to play. It's it's been unbelievable for me. Unfortunately daddy the worst timing ever. My foot hurts. Every time. I going to court i go. I can't play all. These great guys are playing. I can't even shoot. You gotta stop. You picked up golf recently. So just did you can play golf. The rest of your life like this monitor retires a basketball player. After this movie i i think i did. I think my did my foot told me. I can't do it anymore. But i but i. It's the only time i sweat. Oh yeah that's right. That is your only exercise. You know what i mean. Yeah and and and holding my cell phone and in the bedroom but that that that's only like a forty seconds away. You're not even a minute man. No no no every time. Somebody says a minute my has to. How do you come up with the idea that you're going to do a movie about a basketball scout for the sixers down on his luck finds this great player and is going to bring him back to the nba to somehow reclaim his career life. By the way you're in the movie too and so total danettes at besides mclovin playing the yourself but but i this was just total luck. Those guys brought it to. They brought it to me. It was written originally. But i find Player in china And and somehow netflix is not in china. So they were like would've would you guys please make it that we find somebody or your next thing. You know. i'm in my weight. That's how that happened. Yeah yeah yes. It was originally a find a player in china by the way. I saw the picture where you're at the beach. And you got your your shirt off and you're getting in the water there scott. Yeah i know. I'm looking i'm flipping through. And it's like adam sandler taking a dip and i'm going what humiliating. Yeah nothing nothing grocer. Because by the way not only was i- swimming They're thinking. I was happy in my life going. Let me jump in the mediterranean. But then on top of that joe. Betsy was swimming and he can't swim. And i seriously was watching them. I've talked about the out. That's what they got a picture of standing there with a shirt off going my friends about this is you need to get a body double by the way i saw. One of the pictures are as i. It could have been a lot more nothing. Nothing good about it. But it's nothing atrocious. About what is lebron james doing with the movie nine is he. Co-producing this yeah. It's his company. Him and maverick The big movie company now and they. Those guys called me with the script and joe roff and and they all. It was a great as a really cool script. I play a scout. Get to play kind of a guy who's been in the league long time and getting pushed around and not not really getting any traction But but loves it. He wants to coach one day. And robert duvall owns the team And i've been for years and davao finally says You know what we're gonna make your assistant coach this year and he eddie passes away and his son. Ben foster's playing takes over the team and then doesn't like me so he gets me back on the road so when i'm on the road i'm mike i find that one guy like luca dirk or somebody like that jallabert. The you can't deny that what i've done for the team he'll give me a shot and i find juancho. Earn gomez who the greatest. I can't tell you that. He acts so much better than me. And this guy falling crying in the middle of same doing the right thing just every joke. He said he said it smoother. I would've an nba player like you're getting down acted mine nba player destroying the six tenths. They're looking down at me going now. That's not how you doing. let me show you. And he's a great guy. I got the his family in spain and his brother. Willy is a great guy and all by the way the whole spanish olympic team was in the movie to a lot of the guys. What i was in spain they. That's what happens is find them at a kind of like a rutger park of spain kinda game. And he's dominating out there and i say hey man you know i go meet him down what i do. And he doesn't speak english well so he thinks of lying and i get him to come. Practice would be the next day with with the spanish olympic team so just to to show him that. I'm legitimate and Then i bring him over to america. We're talking to adam sandler and the new movie that he shooting now. It's called hustle. And did it'll be on netflix. But you also did you. Did you finish the sean payton movie. That's done that looks. that looks. Great thatch kevin james and he and my wife's brother wrote it and Kevin james plays sean payton in. This is the year that he gets suspended by the commissioner and the movie is about him. Coaching his son in highschool. Well shawn's daughter. Megan did this incredible short on On showing it was about you know i don't. I don't even know maybe ten minutes long about what happened. That year showing didn't play in coached team and wasn't allowed to hanging out at the nba nfl. He went home and coaches pop warner team or not and And got closer with his boy because they were hanging out and said it was. The best year of his life took ball. So i i called those guys upset or not. That would be an incredible movie and Anyway sean what's cool. So yeah let's do it and then my wife's brother chris road with his buddy and Shawn was going to do it. And then i we co kevin james about it and he said each not a problem. He'll lose three to four pounds not want to and they did it. No but kevin's grade in the movie. Play sean it's it's it's awesome insurance in in the movie at the end and You're in the movie and everybody's in the movie man will text me sometimes at off hours whether you're in hawaii or you're in spain you don't live a movie star lifestyle. Well i worked too much. I work too much. In fact i don't last night from working all day with those. Were the the sixers. And i was so excited and then i was like. Oh yeah. I got that meeting egg do editing than that. I'm i'm losing my marbles a little bit but i get a pretty. I mean you saw my body. The picture is pretty good. It's there's some food yeah Your little league team got eliminated yesterday by ohio. But that's a hell of a run from your your little league team. Those guys and they almost one yesterday. I didn't see the whole game. I was shooting. And then i wanted to my trailer and was on and and i saw them coming back. They they play i mean. Ohio was great but Do hampshire manchester hoax. That we were making a run and it was a tight game and kidding right field on ohio beta great catch but it was. They were rolling all the sudden. I couldn't couldn't be happier for those guys. That's a dream when we were kids. We we were like man. We gotta get to williamsport. I always every kid's dream in little league and the fact that they did it and they did all those teams to get. There was very proud. Okay but this is your little league team. You played on this thing team. The same exact feels in park played in my my whole youth. My dad was my coach. All my best friends or on the all star team with with me And those were the best springs and summers of our lives and then we played pretty well in our tournament. We i think we got pretty far into the state championship and then we lost. I'm pretty sure. If i remember correctly we played about eight now like we went on a run but now like he's got. These guys were insane. How good they play. What position did you play. Shortstop and pitcher. Okay i was pretty damn good i was pretty damn good back then and then all of a sudden everybody got in the babe ruth league. I noticed that pool. Four to five inches and i was like what happened. Nobody literally guy was i was. I was good. I saw the picture your front row. You're you're dead center front row. You've got your big fro- i had a little little Extra hairs every year. It was different. Some sometimes i have discussed. They called the discussing. When you gotta crewcut chan manga discussion and then then there were the days where my would say. Let hair grow baby. It's still beautiful. And i would look disturbing them. My father would stare at the table. Like we gotta cut that here where you so. What was your. What would it be the scouting. Report on the sandman. Okay so i was made no no lie. They called me the vacuum. I was very smooth out. I nothing got by me at short had a decent arm. Got it to i. I if in and by the way in little league now when the when they they have a double play these guys act like that was supposed to happen when we had a double play a little. We looked at each other like that really appeal and what what happened. I know but but i know that was accessible double play back and these guys literally i. I don't know how they got so good so young but then what else was i was good. I had a good back. I had a good bad. I got i could buy pulled it. Every time never never had anything to write. View pulled it every every time and Never knocked one out. I hit the fence. one time. it was wouldn't wouldn't like signs all over the fence and remember here when i was like god. Damn i gotta double i. It was not even thought of a triple. But if i would've said back then hey you can be a professional baseball player or you can grow up and be a comedian Baseball player would have wanted that. Now the truth is danny as lane and then one day. I was like a saturday afternoon and said the my dad. I might have told you this. I said to my dad. I he goes. What do you to do when you're older. I said or a pro baseball player. He goes no no no. I am here kyle. Mcdonagh kyle mcdonagh pro baseball player. He goes you saw and i go. Yeah i know. I'm slow but that's all you got your real. Nobody you never see yourself run me told me when one of those super eight cameras and he goes look at your road. You can't be a pro. That sounds like a movie. That's pretty true man. He was just he was just looking at me like quit lying. And then i remember. When i told my dad i wanted to be a comedian. He was all backed that up. One hundred percent but he said but you gotta give yourself time limit and so if you if you don't make it by the time you're twenty three four for me. I said yeah okay. And then i started doing okay. I very young and he was like. I'm actually do at work done or not making enough. Let's go keep going with that. But that was. That was a fall back plan. I was going to be electrician for for my dad. And then daddy would you good little league. I bet you were incredible. Shortstop pitcher man. You buddy. We'll get your answer because that was your team. Yeah and ohio one yesterday. You guys wanna get we all your back. You better ice cream. You make better ice cream than me. Everything about you wins you got. I think a nicer house. I got i got about six or seven. Everyone dominates i asked san man. I'm like you know when you ask somebody when you hope that they'll invite you to their house and go somewhere. Where's your home in hawaii. And he and he gave me like a very vague location on one of the islands. It's on one of the honest. I go okay all right. There's not a lot. I was fighting. Daddy would you like to come and go you go golfing. I would now that you're picking up the sport again. Yes i get getting going. I almost had it. I had one now. I had two good rounds on nine holes. But then i played eighteen and blew up on both the other night but i had one thirty nine on nine. Thirty seven then. I got forty fives on the back. I forty seven but goodness gracious. I had to go. Do you still belong to riviera. Yes well played there the other thing. That would be nice. When i come out for the super bowl that we could go play riviera country club. But yes. We'll do that but don't you think me and you for like three or four days living in Maui like we. We had fun there in maui making a movie. This could be more fun. Okay but is this. Just you and me i want one. I bring into danette. I was going to have fun. I want famous people. I don't want to bring the dan have. I'll have aniston just kind of ood canister in away from me when we shot that movie. You know that you did. Yeah you know. I did and i knew i listen she. You talked me with jennifer aniston and i had. I had all i love. You had no intention that it was good for your family. You good woman way. You aniston walks by you with that perfume. You're just like all head that. I might have thought that but i wouldn't have done that but yeah we could get dave matthews to again and we could go to hawaii you me day. Matthews and jennifer aniston. And you've got to tell the the whole time you didn't even met you ever you just like please introduce me. Dickey wasn't a cold. Kidman wanted nothing to do with me and oh no nobody did. nobody did. The women didn't but kiefer knows your calls. Keith wanted to talk sports. I think nicole was surprised that he her husband knew who i was. And then we got along famously. After that of course. I can play guitar. By the way that keith urban again he can sink on urban cook. Take could take anybody's wipe away one of your co stars in the movie. Hustle has a question. Yes mclovin adam. It's michelob and there's a lot of emails going around. I could probably use a push from you. The size of my trailer has become an issue on set. It doesn't need to be huge. Just like does he get a double banger. It gets it gets He's sharing it. Okay sharing the trailer But he does. We did get him a full weight room. We gotta may Got a nice guy on the set. There's a extra green room for him and we got all the candles vic love and ask for. What is the strangest thing you've ever asked for or heard somebody ask Well i don't know. Holy nothing nothing awful. Nothing i don't really ask for too much. But but i think maybe i do ask for too much. Sometimes the the the people stare at me. Like i'm a i'm a big but But no not too bad. Just wait wait. Rooms weight rooms. I i like. I like my trail is kinda open all as far as the baseball package. That's it it. Make sure you have the basal or the basketball packers. Depending what season. yeah. I work football All right so. I'll i'll let you know i'll be shooting my stuff up here the man-kei but mclovin is going to be joining you there in philadelphia and a couple of weeks. It's gonna be great. Sorry to the to the other fellas. Maybe i'll look at the script and see come up with something i think if they wanna come out. No i'm still scarred from the susan serandon prison seeing that we did you know san man. Do you know that. Susan serandon refused make eye contact with us just because she had no idea who we were and had no interest in talking to us even though we all wanted to talk to her she had no interest. Do you tell these women that are in scenes with us to not socialize with us is energy you guys for scaring that every woman just kind of just goes nuts best i was not the i will say katie holmes. There was a twinkle owner. I that next day that that was ohio. Ohio stuff was anybody from ohio. Everyone else is very nervous. Man No you're you're tall and gangly the they they want you to eat more. They want shorter guys. They're used to short guy. All the hollywood stars are short. What are you pick seventy. We'll we'll talk to you soon. And my best. Everybody there and Thanks again congratulate kids in new hampshire a- by the way the kids who rolling rolling out there or even got to that tournament and new hampshire manchester. You guys were awesome. Awesome loved watching you. And and the whole time we were all loving you and danny speak to you. Thank you sandman. Van adam sandler. The movie is hustle becoming out on netflix. Take a break phone calls coming up after this. 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I like the actors in it. I just didn't think that Wesley snipes and woody harrelson. Were a formidable team. I i think mclovin. And i could take. You had a problem with her. On-court chemistry did not the movie itself not the movie itself. No marcus johnson. As we talked about a couple of months he was he was awesome. Yes rosie perez. Sweet is teen wolf. Great moving is it a sifi basketball woobie. It turns into a wolf. That's not traditional basketball. No i mean it's a fun movie but it is not it is not good basket paw. They win the big game at the end. The superstar guy. Who's supposed to be a great player. I don't know that he's ever touched a basketball in his life. Yeah celtic pride. No okay. here's a tough one is it. I think we all liked this movie. But a great he got game. Denzel washington Citigroup basketball. I look it up. It's got pretty good reviews. Mostly i think i'd like airbud better than he got the basketball diaries. You got walberg in there. 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Local Hour: The Marlins Are BACK!

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

36:56 min | 1 year ago

Local Hour: The Marlins Are BACK!

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The MARLINS had to first in franchise history yesterday, which were you more excited about you know which to I'm talking about I don't the two first yesterday they had a player steel three bases in one inning in. One John birdie including stealing home plate late in the game that was an exciting play. David stealing home a lot. This season you know affiliate this team is about bunting base running and choking and poking that is the strength of this team and they do the little things wealth. How would you rank by the way like what this team does are just yeah. Yeah. Like where choking poking land on that list, I would say that their strength is based renting. That's I. And I would say their next strength is choking poking. You saw last night Dickerson in big spot late in the game with a runner on. Third in less than two outs he's like I just gotTa get I got this planet. I gotTa do whatever. I need to do to put this in place. So he was choking up like five inches on the bat literally ended up grounding out in not getting the running. That's not the important thing. The important thing is that he choked and he poked bunting it just fits with base running. We haven't actually had that grey bunting so far bunch of jokers brokers. That's right. Roy and the other I. That this team did yesterday for the first time ever was sweep a doubleheader with both shutouts we won both games the medicine score running either game and just feelings teams making the playoffs. That's it. I know I've said this and I got mock earlier in the week. But feel like it's half they're very inconsistent. You could admit that rate like they're not. They're not flat out good. Now they're both terrible. That's the fact that they're fourteen and eleven with the bullpen that they've put out things I twenty five. I mean, is it fair to say that they're terrible they've had a couple of bullpen games where the bullpen pitchers of pitching the entire game. I'm more just mean in terms of their name power like if you look at the list of every guy's name in their bullpen, its list that you're like, okay. The kinzler guys at heard of that guy that's bad. Them I'm just saying it's you've heard Richard. Pryor he got to win yesterday throwing one pitch. You think about that I played high school baseball with Richard Pryor for those of the Donau New marlins reliever in. Yes. I feel so bad this pitch marlins pitcher throws foreign two-thirds, innings of shutout baseball and then gets taken out. Richard. Pryor throw one pitch and he gets the way we need to change the rules I was GonNa say is their way to fix that? Can we go back in time and change that from being the thing? I feel like it should be a judgment call at the end of game. You sit back and say which pitcher that pitch today should get the win and then someone decides that Patriots win it shouldn't be like an innings thing it should just be a feel thing if one who put in the most work or just like the biggest spot like Richard Pryor. Bases are loaded in. There's one out and he strikes out two batters then I feel like maybe he deserves to win. My voice kind of like petered out there and Emmy your emotional about. Good EJ annual Costano Guy By the way. Yeah. You'll even us up to the official scorer because this is a subjective thing based on and just saying wins for pitchers to have a question for you. Chris what did you think about the fact that they ruled as? A rule to hit an error and there was a no hitter going in the second game, and then they came back from commercial up it's been changed. It was actually a hit and it's like, okay well, it's done they took out the pitcher anyways with really matter. But that's a good example of baseball having some instances where rules are just flat out judgments and that's the way. I. Think they should do it for wins. It asked Dude are you mean you were texting lot where our relationship is so much who the marlins are good I feel i. feel so much I feel great about our relationship with the Marlins or good you want to be honest with you. So long enough vaccine no, no no, it's not that I wanted to stop texting me. It's the same as the as the heat game. The other day. So like I watch it on the I was watching it on the APP. So like I know something good's coming. Yeah and I'm like, okay that's like wait and I wait like three pitches than it comes up like yes. So it's almost kind of good because I don't get myself too excited because it'll be a situation where two runners on to us I'm like. Are we going to get something out of this? I'm going to get something out of this and you're like, yeah, and I'm like, all right. I don't know what's going to happen but I can securities knowing that good things come my way. into pitches later, Boom three-run homer like double down the line we are not having any kind of deep conversation is all just like emotional like? I'm GonNa see if I could find the spill out. Like do you spell them out or do you do the voice message? She has a tough one. I was like because I feel like I want to spell. Yeah. Why a why but that's yeah, I know. But I'm always detail it that way. But I I always say, no, I gotta spell it why EA is that's how you spell. As at the end at depends depends on how big the moment is sometimes i. go just the letters and then a bunch of exclamation points. Sometimes, they throw a couple of ease and then a couple as and then a couple of collection points. All in all cats. Nice. So just kind of depends on the moment. Here's one that was from last night and it was at Eleven O. Double Double header also rain delay in game with double header. So here's one that you just said let's go with three Os three exclamation marks. Happened there i. don't remember what happened there but let's go. The thing is, is that you're not the only person that I I have like marlins games text. So. Then like I got another one that was at eleven fifty, five pm by that point I'm like. In and out nearly I mean. W T.F but it's not WTI. F. is actually spelled out. And I and I woke up to that one Ryan and I'm like. Oh I fell asleep in the sixth inning seven inning game like they must have blown the game and then I go and I see it and I'm like they won so I have no idea what this is about like I don't know what this is referring to. Talking about the Marlins game and then like half an hour later, they just sent me that's I should probably check in with that person and make sure that everything's okay that doesn't seem to be about the MARLINS. Fall. Asleep. In the six day as Paul Severino likes to let you know that is the equivalent of the eighth inning in a double header. Billy. It's very easy if it's twelve o'clock at night, it was. Late for me to tell you that I'm so into the Marlins, what can you guys do? What can you guys do to get me into the marlins because I haven't seen that one pitch of Marlins baseball this season what can you guys? You're this rain just wait because this is what always happens rate. we get excited about the marlins and then people are like, Oh let's let's check out what's going on there and I'm not telling people don't check out the Marlins the opposite of that rain but also got understand Marlins will disappoint you a little bit right. So like their three games over five hundred right now I think and they're half a game out of first place as the braves game was breakdown I guess. which is weird because wasn't was a game where was the game was her new? York it could have been New York because marlins played through rain delay near. At think, Atlanta was home after anyway. So You need to kind of just realized like they're still like minus four I think in the on differential select their three games over but they've scored four less runs than Dave allowed. So wait Dan laying. You're doing the damn thing where you're looking nothing picture you know fourteen eleven. That's all that matters no I know but I'm saying like the NFL west everyone's like thirty. Or they've allowed to like those teams are the really good and the marlins like good but not great and I love to understand when you get on with the Marlins they're good. Just not great which is fine because it's an improvement over one hundred losses look I can guarantee you one thing for sure here comes okay. The MARLINS will not lose one hundred games this. Knife. Like they have. Ever, legitimate chance to make the playoffs. That's shouldn't that like that. That should get you in like I. Believe they're going to make the. Right. Now I believe they're going to the playoffs and I believe and I was looking at the standings today with the way that they're playing right now if the season ended today, they would make the playoffs in a normal season. It's not even league none expanded playoffs situation right now obviously, teams have guys sitting Ou-, there's the weird schedules. There's the weeks off that. Some teams take if you will get sick. So this year is kind of different different for everybody saline everybody. Let's do this. It is the same for everybody but what I'm saying is I think that they should get credit one. If they make the playoffs anyway, they make the playoffs. Right but if they make the plant and they would have made the playoffs, any ways in a regular season, they should get a ton of credit for that because no one thought that this would be the year like year three of the rebuild. I think everyone's still thought realistically you're like a year to away because you have players that are developing but they brought a lot of those guys up at this point like yesterday they brought up their first round pick from the two thousand, seventeen draft I think right pitch the other I could game of the doubleheader thirteen th overall pick, trevor. Rogers it. That's what I love about this team. Now, there's a lot of their prospects I've heard of, but now they're calling up guys that have never even heard of those guys are studies. So to get excited or to warn you anthony, you can get excited. But also know that there's GonNa be some disappointment along the way just kind of ride it out or wait a little bit and checking in two weeks, and then we'll see where we're at. Okay. I was GONNA ask what month should I start paying attention? I'd say September. Labor seems like a good month. It's your last chance. Wait. That's only four days away. The tape. I cannot let I. AM going to be so obnoxious. I'm going to be Mike Ryan Heat Ban level obnoxious when September and the Marlins are playing meaningful thing I'm into it now in September I'm GonNa go to the Games I don't even go hit and let me and writings the writings on the wall. Right the Marlins have never not made the playoffs and won the world series and The playoffs what I'm saying is whenever they get into the playoffs, they won the world series. I kind of like that. So I don't I don't know the playoffs part of me this own. Zilly. Did, you see birds of healing home or like as you said, you were in and out late in the game No I didn't see that. Was it a street steal of home or was it like the double steal doing lately or doubt we're up by two in the sixth inning so it's essentially this when I was in a now yet. So it's like the our last chance to add on some insurance to nothing game Birdie gets on first base steal second Birdie gets steals third. Allison the two outs. So there's two outs he had stolen second and third. He does this thing where the pitch gets thrown the Catcher, he takes a big secondary league. So he's almost like a third way down the been doing that a lot lately VR it will have times that he's at third base where he is like he closer to home than he is the third base of the third baseman just simply not paying attention him and he leads the League in steals by the way it seems like birdies coming after him so because the third base was playing so far off the bag. Birdies just like I'm not going back to the bag, and so the catcher kind of gives him a look and then turns the throwback to the pitcher in as he starts the thirds, the pitcher burden just takes off and it's one of those things that if he wouldn't have tricked, he would've walked home without ever anything, but he literally falls down midway down the baseline. So it makes it a closer play but familia like got rattled by having the catch and throw quick and just throws a terrible for the catcher ends up scoring anyways even though he tripped and fell I've done that before. That Tony I feel maybe you've done it in basketball like just that we're trying to sprint down the court and you just lose your legs and you like it's like you're in quicksand. So the worst part is when you're you're backpedaling right shoot a shot or whatever, and you're trying to backpedal you're looking. At people after you make shop backpedaling down the court, you kinda like do a matrix sailing catch yourself. What's the most embarrassing thing that you've done playing a sport and I'll tell you mind right off rip. It was this year and earlier before Kopri covert I was playing in one of my like basketball leagues and I had gotten a rebound and I was trying to fight somebody off somebody who's like holding the ball from the other side. So imagine like a jump ball situation ripping from him, but there's also somebody streaking down the left side of the court. So I have to throw one of those overhead passes to get the ball to him so he could score on a fast break. As a yanked, the ball and a Mike Tummy had been hurting. Precursor my tummy hurt I think it was one of the days that we had pizza the studio and there was just like going on. As I ripped the ball and start to throw I regret like a huge fart right. But the good thing is it was in motion so I don't know of people heard it or not but that was one of the more embarrassing things that had ever done. You guys just a little mid game fart. It will the thing is it was the exertion of trying to throw the overhead path like really just like. CUT It out there. I saw three stolen bases out what a move number one. This is A. This is a great example of how kind of the guys calling the game not from the stadium had no idea knowing. There was excitement like Whoa. You'RE GONNA birdies. None of that, SORTA look for like the mets version of this broadcast guest but he did the classic swim where he was falling but he was almost running with his hands also to keep them up. Yeah. The crab crawl is that what they call it like he had to bear. Bear. Crawl it should be a crab crawl wise called the Bearcroft the. Anything, to hold them on at third base like nothing and they weren't covering third base, he stole third base easily to run covering third base he was like. Look to him like it wasn't like this was just a catcher not paying attention. The catcher gave him a look like you're far from the bag. All right now I'm throwing it back and he just it was dude that's based running. That's the that's legitimately creating a run from wins base running that is based Billy and Tony Tan to your question, my most embarrassing laws and say thank you for letting me be vulnerable in front of the entire world and you guys shift over to stolen home is Birdie his last name is that his nickname nice. They be RTI. Number Birdie T. Some anyways anybody else want to be vulnerable abstract I've struck act struck out in men's softball. So of I yeah. City you've had multiple invert. Have you ever start kickable now all even though I feel like kickball, it'd be easier to strike out in. Don't get me started on kickball pitching I played like a half a season of barely kickball and I hate how serious pitchers take it where it happened to the other half. I like stopped flying and just. Like this and I was like the best holdout are just like I'm done with this. I don't like the sport, but they come after you stop the League and say Bower Stars out. We've got no I I. Did get many texts of like basically begging me to come fresh third base third base is like the most important position in one hundred percent and highlight they just throw at third base and I would you know I was that guy that there'd be a girl playing shortstop and I would just run Right in front of her like no, this is I'm sorry I'm the third base than I'm the best player on taking fall anyway billy. You can just do this. How annoying are these like real kickball back on school days you just roll the ball right nowadays in this barely kickball spinning the ball throwing his heart is you can't. It's not kickball life. It's kickball like you're not going to be a professional kickball players especially if you're like co Ed like Recreational League like listen you don't you don't need to. You don't need to show off your right. There were just coming to we're going to coconut grove. We're going to go to sandbar after this like this is just about fund. This isn't about leg the. kickball chamber. Tried to get the name of it. All right I got three things I want to get to and what you guys to pick which one you wanna go to I. Think People Are Sad. Sorry to interrupt you think people are sad because they like dance the gods greg buying everybody's going to be into and it's like, Oh, it's just Chris. Road Billion Anthony Yeah for sure but we push through and then they're all here by the way I've just making them stay muted like Damn. You. Keep that muted. That's right. If the Shut up. All right. We Are you in your house today you're in a different location than you'd normally been this I'm at my dad's house my. If you've noticed every couple of weeks I spend one day week at my parents. House is because my cleaning person comes to get out of the House and let them cle- fuel shame that they're they're in your there. because. That's kind of what it feels like to me. What do you mean like I like like? Shamed being there at somebody cleans your house designed that rare and have any less shame not enough. To have a cleaning person. Yeah. Where's Greg? What's he up to? You want to join us today or no I mean he's he's in his office you know blogging away doing he does not mean unsure he could maybe join I could ask him what's a typical workday like for Greg he gets up and he just starts blogging no I think it depends on if he's writing that day but I think he you know, yeah goes through his computer to start. Sitting there and Stuff. I don't know. Basically hit the his process now is spend a half hour like getting his voice to sound normal and. Take his inhaler stop squeezing. My Dad has asthma or if he has no that. Oh Didn't know that part of the whole coughing thing the last two years like the what has come of that is the doctor saying that he basically has asthma so. He needs to take an inhaler, take his pills and then like a half hour after he's up, he's a good as new. I looked up the staff by the way I know to real to burden now has aged stolen basis only one one behind Vr who leads major league baseball with nine in two of them are actually competing at that. So the three things I wanNA talk about today. Calling Farrell's cabs we have seen this if you haven't needed to type it into your search engine right now I want the white sox through new hitter no hitter yesterday in billy was feeling bad for the pitcher out I feel like there's other people we instilling bad foreign well yeah. No but I'm saying in terms of lake though hitters it's the saddest whenever he did it in from budget cardboard fans no one is. There can't be a Saturday hitter, the Matt. Right. Thirteen strikeouts like it just seems like the satis Oh hitter not only. Is there no real fans if the opposite of that there's fake cardboard fans. Feeling it almost be less sad if it was just seats like, no, there's real fans are just pieces of cardboard. Jt Riddles is a pirate by the way I saw that in watching the highlights for that white sox no hitter and I wanNA talk about restaurants opening in Miami and you guys and your dealer's choice like we get to choose which when you talk about on Farrell's cavs and there's really nothing much to that are you? Guys thinking other than looking at the picture of his cats. So you're GONNA have to send us the picture you're looking at because I'm looking at a lot of pictures where he'd seems to just have normal cavs is it the video Chris where he's like slapping his calf and then all of a sudden like tenses up or did I see another video? I'm going to send you guys pick you guys just give me ten seconds of village. Anyway, JT was one of the things that he wanted to talk about jt riddle is now a pirate. WanNa, be. That was a nugget from bit led the the No hitter top in no hitter rob was white sox no hitter and a sidebar of that is jt riddles a pirate. Gotcha Okay and you thought that that was an important distinction. Of Fun aside. Aside had there been a Lotta guys. You've seen a major league baseball be like, oh he's there I forgot about him. Am sending this to you guys now and I want I want to set this up before you're going to spill we don't need to actually answer the question we just had to fill anthony. I tossed that out there just just leave it out there into the University of that anyone. Thinking about it right now, and like you know what I do know somebody. tweeted anthony when you know that person, you can tweet a me too if you want but pointed anthony. I want you to Imagine Colin Farrell preparing for the role of Popeye, but he's only doing it from the waist down. So like nothing in the top half of his body is top by but his lower half is popeye and if that's the case he's crushing this role so far did by big camps I don't know but I imagine this is what Popeye's cavs play I. Don't I don't remember what look like I don't know if he had been cavs but if he did, this is what they look like. Have you guys gotten the picture yet what you? My first my first assessment is why is he wearing combat boots with those kind of shorts because because the cavs? Those calves are just fitting in some loafers. Yes. eleazar shoes but like this, this looks weird to me. If you zoom in like I, don't know there's something. You say out real not that it's not real because he doesn't have big calves, but it seems like if you zoom into his sock in his leg, there seems to be some sort of. It's not as clear. Maybe a little distortion maybe I'm wrong I'd like to see the cows from this side of fossil because I saw lots of pictures from the front I'd like to see this side. It's the rare person who only does leg day he not most people get made fun of for having these like bulk arms and like the Nice. Get. Chicken legs. Com Farrell just going ham on leg day and skipping everything else his arms actually are decent shape but compared to his calves, they look very cuny. What What do you think he was up to because he's wearing like nineteen eighties running shorts he's wearing a shirt, cut off the sleeves a mass like a military looking tile hat backwards and then like. Combat Food Service. Boots I, don't get. Socks to just a Sunday morning exercise. As a bag that maybe at a grocery store or something buying art it as art voice. Can't really figure out what he was up to this day I wonder. So. There you go. That's the feral topic army. Jt Ritalin better. Yeah. Are you restaurants are opening up what is this? How does this change guys lives? That breath rate they were just perfect of just it's like I want to go like us obviously know like I love going out to eat I love eating a new places but I still have an innate distrust and I think it's GonNa take a long for us to get rid of that distrust of like I'm GonNa take off my mask, and there's going to be other people not that far away with their masks off and we're all gonna be eating and. Breathing and talking in the same place is not exactly what speeds up the coronavirus I don't know. Manage Birdie with a gun throughout that such a dumb like such a dump play. Well, it's one of it's like when you're up to, you can take a risk they're like that's. you hear it, but you're saying you were. Talking to their bullpen this is their last. They're the home team on the road, which is again one of the strange things about baseball. It's an insurance run this there Brian Anderson's a good hitter the I mean I'm glad it worked out but I could've if that wouldn't have worked out mode have been crushing. He doesn't trip he literally he can walk home like if he doesn't fall down, it's not even close. So I get the timing was perfect. It's just the trip I. Don't think I'm going to restaurants I don't know if that was the question about restaurants ice I don't think I'm going to be going to restaurants a little bit. Let's see how this thing plays out. Or like what if the case is serge once they opened restaurants? Hey, we're back at X. amount of cases per day and we're like, Oh you know what? Maybe opening restaurant wasn't a good idea. Yeah. That's weird about all of this right is at some point. Things are going to reopen, right? Yeah. Of course, but you're also kind of like. Sure that I'm ready for things to reopen lake the dolphins having thirteen thousand people at A. Like I'm probably not going to be in on that right like I don't think I'm going to be going number one. I didn't like going to September or October football games in Miami to begin with because it's really hot. It's really really hot and on top of that if I'm going out I'm wearing a mask but I'm GONNA be sitting. Out. In all that heat? Yeah. obviously there spacing I haven't read all of what's going on and there's only thirteen thousand people, which is twenty percent. So you're not going to feel right on top of you, but you're still going to be in the heat. You're still going to be having to wear masks. It just seems more enjoyable to watch the game from home at that point, right? I mean there's part of me that thinks it's outside I know they're going to be socially distant like I feel almost safer going to dolphins game then like a restaurant where I'm like confined a close face with people but the but the idea of it being hot out in having to keep my mask on that's the part. That's like odd just rather watch red zone. Are you guys GonNa go inside to restaurants. I'm fine with outdoor seating. Like umbrella something gives you some shade that's been our thing if like in the last six months if I've done anything on the weekend I, go to the beach and we like just do our own thing on the beach away from everybody and then we go find some restaurant to sit outside at like that's. All I've really done for seven months as far as like being out in public. I've been to one restaurant in all the time and it was on my anniversary and I was like. Frankenstein. Yeah. It was at the end of your inside. No. No it was outside. It was all outdoor seating. It was the end of July and if there were. Fifteen people there. That's a lot like there was not a ton of people there. Right. But they also have like tables on a sidewalk and then people were walking by on the sidewalk that it's kind of like come on please just put them ask. E like. Because then I had to take it off right and I'm like eating. And then like after our meeting, it's like right back on that I like pool it down to take like a sip of water coke whatever like putting it back up and I'm sitting there with my massingir singer mask on like eating for like dickey's mask ridiculous mask and like I was wearing like a like a polo shirt like. Looking good. Yeah not looking good. But like like a golf shirt, right like I wore like a golf shirt with a little collar and it was like shores Makino anniversary first anniversary. This is like a nice moment. Maybe don't wear like a t shirt in a backwards baseball hat that I'm wearing the stupid mass singer mask on my face and I looked like half of a monster was ridiculous. Are you wearing glasses glasses? I think I wore contacts. A contact day billions you and I obviously know like when you put the mask on, you have your glasses like it fogs up seconds I it sunglasses and it's been a challenge. It's been a challenge. I'm not a big contact guy I used to be more. So I was traumatized with contacts from the very beginning because when I first got my context I, haven't astigmatism but also have a rare stigmatism, right? So like I can't just get any old contacts rate. So when I was younger, they didn't have like soft lenses weren't as prevalent as they are now and. They didn't have it for my type of vision. So I had to get hard lenses at the beginning and it was awful because basically like a little piece of glass that you would put on your eyeball and every time I would blink because it was thick I would feel it was the worst and then to take it out, you wouldn't even like grab it. You had to like pull the side of your eye and like blink and like shootout and it was like, no I'm not getting these contacts anymore I'm just going to stay with lasts forever sounds like. This is like an eight or nine old, maybe like ten rates. So I was like young in ause like never doing this again. And then they finally had like soft lenses than I saw everybody wearing softens in like all right I'll have another go at this and night did the soft lens thing and then I do what everyone with context says I forget to take it out and then I have to take it out like the next day it'd be like man routinely a layer of your eyeball off every time you do that because that's awful and then I'd go and I'd just be getting like a year context every time I go to the doctor and I realized Every year I go back I have like three of context left because I'm wearing these. I'm wearing these context is supposed to be like monthly disposables two week disposable or whatever. And where am like once and then I tell myself not going to throw it away because I wore just one time like it's been three weeks and I should have replaced it but it's not three weeks of uses just just been sitting in liquid right? If it sitting in liquid what scenario progress we need sitting in liquid in my case and it sitting liquid in a little plastic container that it comes in this should be good. I've only used at once right? So I started just buying a month worth of contacts like thirty days I've had like six months just because I don't work context frequently and I'm down to like the daily disposables. Now Roy you know what? I'm talking about the daily disposables. Some using those and I'm supposed to go to the doctor like August but I think you're gonNA put it off until I run out of all. My context is I'm not going to buying more. A year supply almost almost dealt with August. But I know, I, have gotten a little card my eye doctor what he does is every time you fill out a postcard with your name and your address and I guess they put the date and then they mail it you a year later laws they have like a thing where like we hold this year for year and we'll mail to a year later and that's the reminder to go to do your your test guts a lovely reminder it's your own. You know you from a year ago saying, Hey, billy I need to make sure that you're good here. You know what I think I'm GONNA do. I think that I'm going to write myself a little message this year when I go there. So next year, I'll see the little message I got just like you know what? Billy? You made it another year a year wiser a year better, and then just hope that the year wasn't like total crap that I was in lake full of it like I wanNA manifest. Good things don't want to jinx myself by saying, Hey, you know what? You did a use five. You're so great and then have like some sort of like awful thing happened I'm like man was such an idiot how do we start talking about contacts? Glasses and the masks. The Mask, you're at your at your anniversary dinner you're wearing your mask, your mass singer mask You're waiting for people to put their masks on you did they didn't you did. Yeah. No, there was a guy there was a guy that was there there was he ate like half of his stake and then complained to the weight of the steak wasn't thick enough. It's the word and then he laid made the take it back and then bring him like another state that was sticking I'm like heady play you're such a jerk through like woody like. By looking at the state, you can tell whether it's thick enough for your library like number one. You probably ordered the wrong thing right? Like I'm pretty sure that you were the one that messed this up at the wrong state not goes skirt steak. It's like they need to know skirt steak going to be thin. That's what I'm saying like as as soon as the plates delivered, you can see that this is either thick enough or not gonna like. My bad I think I would have the wrong thing. This isn't what I thought. It was getting whatever you don't need half the thing and then started screaming and this guy is not gonNa surprise you now wearing masks any. No port is he's just yelling is. The worst person I've ever seen the word at day which one is. One of us is most likely to sending back food. At a restaurant. Me, feel like Anthony just because he said, it was a heady play. In. The fact where he ate half of it and it was like you know what I need another stakes eight, a half and a holistic, any play this Have you guys overdone that were you've complained about the food. To get out of paying for it or just whatever like you've been like this is just not good like don't worry it's on the house or whatever I no no. No. I've done it before but it was it was a it was a valid. Point I that I'm not gonNA say the name of the restaurant it was just unenviable. You're saying it wasn't it was edible. Here's the thing it was for my wife and is it was for Valentine's Day. Was it the one where you're eating like midnight? Yes. That's how I came into the studio the next day, and I completed you guys. But we went to a place in the beach a very nice place on the beach that we love to go to. And I know a place it was. Yeah. We're not going to say it because I enjoyed their their thing, I don't want to trash them but this day was just a little bit hectic bump in the road. Everyone has exactly except this one I made them take care of it. So thinking back and knowing that corona was like around. February, fourteenth the Valentine's Day like people were already sick with corona in the United States and we just didn't think about it because he brought it from your honeymoon. Correct. So When I think about that and how packed this restaurant was like it was literally shoulder to shoulder those two hundred people in a square footage of like. Fifty macy's you sick just like. Oh my God. How did I spend that much time there anyway. To concert the other day on Netflix and I was like man how the hell were the one hundred thousand people on top of each of that's insane. Wreath, over space over. So, our reservation was at ten o'clock at night. Because we had gone to a show before. So the last time we went, we did the same thing we got like a ten ten thirty. Reservation everything's perfect. I walk in at ten o'clock. To the like I've never seen this place so packed. So we ended up waiting for like an hour and a half by that point my wife is not happy whatsoever we sit down and the waiter takes like. Forty five minutes to bring us water to bring us anything. So we order is. Like bad service at a restaurant, it was horrible I understand like the guy was going crazy. There was thousand people whatever that's not the point. The point is like just get my shit on time and like we're good just like normal things like water silverware the menu like it takes fifteen to twenty minutes for me to get that. anyways, long story short another forty five minutes. We finally get the food. It's cold. And I told them like you my wife at this point is not happy. She's upset with me that we didn't leave. It's a whole thing and I told him look pack this up. I don't WANNA eat here this cold like I'm not doing this. So he brought the manager and the manager it's like, oh. What's wrong? Can I get you something I'm like look no I, just I'll pay for the food I want everything boxed up right now like I'm done. So the guy came back he's like look we comp the entire meal like we're so. Sorry. Get us on another time when we don't have on people, we overbooked reservations and I was like look that's fine. Don't book don't overbook reservations when you know you guys have twenty-five seats. What's the point of taking seventy five reservations for twenty five seats the same time all I know is I know where you went and I know that place is expensive. So every meal there I mean that's that's worth it waiting another hour. I have a story the opposite direction. So when you level no knows so no, no no. So I went I went to this place like Burger place right in and I was. There was some of my friends and they're like all the like this one pound Burgers as some massive Burger, right? Unlike eating in it was fine. It was it any fault of theirs it was just so much food that I'm like eating and eating and I'm like you could tell that I'm not like feeling well at all rate with what's going on and I'm like telling my for like like I think I'm ready to go like this and the waitresses like are you? Okay like Pseudo Kayla, we can bring you another one I'm like. We're good like I'm fine. Don't worry about that. Liked good. So they went to the bathroom and just through all of it Wa because we're just so much food. It was no fault of bears. I. Just ate way more than I. Suppose that you. Throwing up like all of it. And I was so embarrassed that I got sick of their food that I begged doubled what I would normally given on a tape and I just like let them like I. Thank you as a great service food was delicious. Here's a forty percent tip I gotta go. embarrassed. I threw up their food. Was Delicious. It was fine. It was my fault for being dumb. An enormous circumstances like look at me sick I needed whatever might w tip everything was great. This is the best restaurant I'm going to write a yelp later. Great your resume I gotta go I'm Outta here. You. Want us to box it. No, no, no. No. Thank you.

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"The Dan Le Batard Woodstock Gotcha podcast is brought to you by the capital one's ever card or four percent cash back on dining and entertainment do percent grocery stores of one percent on all of the purchases when you go out you can't Jim what's in your wallet terms apply this is the Dan Lebatardshow with his two cats podcasts good they're coming off a bye Kyle Shanahan a really good coach Freddie kitchens is still learning how to be a head coach in this league that being said would it surprise you if we're here on Monday and the browns are three and three after beating Seattle who has to make a cross country trip at one o'clock start it would surprise you yeah I think we'd all be surprised Seattle Hi that thinks he's there and one guy who absolutely is there I saw the Cleveland browns try to run all kinds of misdirection and stuff and it really didn't work and the niners do acting like yesterday you know people are talking about and Baker Mayfield being one read quarterback I don't know how it's possible to be a one read quarterback and hold the ball too long I don't have the billy one hundred years from now we'll they'll be Bosa playing in the NFL P- is Baker Mayfield good next time the Yankees had twins the only person that I'm really upset about I a little concerned that they can't get the ball to Odell Beckham junior down field and over the last two weeks I know they were trying to get them involved and he actually through the most Baker stinks on twitter last night that's what happens when you're gonNA have this sort of toxic reaction there's there's quarterbacks that can get away with having a bad twenty two I I seriously doubt he's taking five seconds to just look at one read but they're clear issues that game got away from them the the niners doing it and doing it to a T. I know the sports radio game works were supposed to talk about the browns and the fact that they lost and maybe too much hype headed into the season but the real story him and that was very bad game granted one of the interception should have been a touchdown inexcusable from Antonio Calloway who I believe to be the worst wide receiver football he he is terrible it's always a disaster when you target him and at least he's not an off the field concern either that guy adding here absolutely allowed us even though he's a gator the head coach good young quarterback versatile running back they have a bunch of them wide receivers okay tighten very very good defense pretty good set to play each other in the postseason should we skip the series of just let the Yankees advance all those at Lebatardshow odd twitter Oh and one more through one preseason you're passing the night land last night yes baker was missing everything a little high I know that there's an booger McFarland has really pushed this narrative and then he was real the Matt Brita long run Mac Wilson goes AB position they get great interceptions and turnovers from there guys Boso was obviously a house on fire right can you do I can do it actually if I can do it anybody can do technology I've never been more embarrassed you could seriously do done polls yeah absolutely bowman stay in the pocket you can't have him under attack every single possession I don't the conversation is Baker Mayfield good is a little unfair as the season yeah but then on the poll was Baker Mayfield good I heard it everyone was chiming in I mean even Mikey see our board up back in Bristol fans I would be worried about my offensive line and my run defense more than I would be worried about Baker Mayfield it didn't seem like Baker had time to make a second read dolphins and the dolphins didn't play and they're three now if you're trying to thank your three now unbeaten let's hear it takes biggers bad now all dancer bowling it really my grind feeling today oh I didn't think you'd come to me who do you think of well I think in the Patriots and you start with a quarterback with patriots DNA It if I were the browns so that's probably the problem there was kind of jarring watching the difference between Baker and Jimmy if you just watch that game and say who do I want for the rest of his career last night as he is the forty niners that's the story for now great young coach Great Young Court good young quarterback great yet I don't even think he was particularly good in that game he was missing want to be judged every game and there's nothing wrong with that that's that's the way it is it's going to be that way with Baker Mayfield with Sam Darnold with Daniel Jones any young quarterback thousand Everson Baker Mayfield certainly hasn't done himself any favors by how he approaches things I saw Mike Silver speak to Richard Sherman and he had he took his it was probably inaccurate more accurate than Baker Mayfield but his receivers were actually helping him out making some tough catches turn them into big plays it came down to execution you saw the place good question I do wonder where we're browns fans are I think the browns prove pretty thoroughly that they're better than the Ravens I'm not really worried about that division it's on it's still early and he had a very good game last week and he is the record holder for rookie touchdown passes PA- a beating manning and fewer games so I you wait until you see it. He seems Brash seems confident he's a lot of fun you'll take some chances but he doesn't seem special and every young quarterback in this league is ed minds thought that the browns weren't going to be Baltimore either I know what I saw that's the one big win I cycle kyle Shanahan versus Freddie Kitchens one latter end of the season that'll mean a lot of that division and take advantage of what is a weak AFC north for the first time a very long time does it worry you that they can't ending them up to tear them down there good content but Baker Mayfield speaking unlike any other quarterback I ever has you do need to back it up and an eight for twenty two game in which a quarterback the browns obviously were over hyped. I'm GonNa say that I mean there's no question about that but our fans you think keeping the faith or or fans going like abso prize something happened last night happy football fan all going well for my garage and these days Peter Patriots coming up but if they can survive that and they seemingly in terms of the National Media Stola Game Against the Baltimore game that no one really thought that they would win headed seem to get anything easy to Odell like the giants could find ways and he was their only threat really find ways to get him the ball and they can't and it's like five six yards at a time and he's taken a big hit they thought about it gains and Brown they're worse Kamo to be this week specifically or some is there might they came down fortunate that the Browns and pretty kitchen has to learn his way as a head coach in this league against what is a very difficult schedule and only gets more difficult with foreign one Seattle and the game is the best player in the NBA Monday night observations. You didn't know you could just put the poll twitter right creating would have been higher if you you despite the ball every time you took a snap that's really embarrassing any needs to find a way to respond to respond well let me ask you this question because I'm curious again one can do that I don't know how to do that you get yeah I could fire a ball on twitter I shouldn't tell you because now you're just going to be putting a foles all the that stretch of their schedule they're scheduled lightens up they're going to drop a few of those games that people think they're supposed to win but I think they'll be there at the end and they'll probably have a home game against Baltimore towards with Baker Mayfield not shaking hands and P players feel disrespected nick most has been carrying a grudge against Baker Mayfield flag plant the flag I think it was a little overblown throughout the season the the lack of pass protection it was actually quite okay doesn't feel special he doesn't he doesn't feel special and I don't know how a loss Vegas car wash he put that on hold a lot of dirty cars and Vegas here's a selectquote difference most companies give you one option one policy and one rate but selectquote shops and could get you up to ten options from highly rated life insurance companies for free personalized quote call eight hundred for extra inning win over the braves nationals also force game five with a six one win over the dodgers and finally Jose Canseco is delaying his search for bigfoot in order to launch obviously we've seen him execute at a high level their issues with the offense the play calling it's still not quite there the offensive line does seem to be a huge issue even though I was unbelievable nuking plays even when he gets pancake he finds ways to come up with a a fumble and a and a sack that guy's GonNa be problem in the League for a very long time but greg what I say back there was a lot going on there a lot going on there where I totally understand why someone higher up decided maybe this isn't the best idea here we go again this is better than the browns yet but they're two and three coming off a really bad law within easy schedule and no one's really running away with that division but that is and then with the flag you didn't know what he was doing the first thing I think the just general reaction to the browns is the sports machine because we're culpable and bill ask Dan lebatardshow appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line prep your engine for winter with pennzoil synthetic motor oil the first motor oil made from natural gas not crucial Justin verlander and Diego Casteel on the mound the Yankees swept their series against the twin winning five to one the National League Division Series Cardinals Force game five with a five drop them on characteristic I called that fumble and that punt return to coming up next how many major league baseball managers can you name Donlevatar fastened dollars this season more than the entire raise lineup he oppose yesterday the Race Lineup Donald Twenty two point six million this Hattie play airtime VC's Donlevatar show with his two guys on ESPN radio ESPN radio is presented by Progressive Insurance Zach Ricky yesterday against the rays three point two innings five hits six runs he earned thirty one point five million a couple of game fives best thing in sports put that on the ball is gained five the best thing in sports how badly so took a horrible angle trying to tackle them I'm very concerned about the Odell thing Baker at least one thing that changed from the early part of the season he's not forcing eh hey still pretending like it's going to happen also I wanNA wash cars of Jose Canseco now did you have to make like make payments in advance like what happened I'm wondering if if anyone paid for this and they're never getting their money take seven eight zero ten ten or go to selectquote dot com for latest headlines and information tune into sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day. We'll get to your calls at a second there's one open I began skill billy's resume yes polls on twitter you're only billy had the codes to do it yes I didn't realize I could do it how do you do it jobe into him to point that I think he may be try to force it to him a little bit more because you can make plays being said he had the opportunity to make some plays last night on on a couple of high passes any any we're gonNA take some calls before I do that might give me the short stat of the day short stat of the day if you have it start of the day steadily day Aku's in that position is going to be subject to all kind of heat and criticism and Baker Mayfield and others needed just deal with no the you're absolutely right that the browns and do the both good but this is probably the best Strasbourg we've ever seen I know it's crazy I mean way way back like a decade ago when they saved his arm they saved it for this moment for this game been in contention for the Cy Young Bueller in Strasbourg that's a great matchup for Kershaw Pitch Sherzer might even be available again for an inning. Listen it's loser goes will the proof is in the pennzoil and your sportscenter update American League Division series raise beat the Astros ten three to cut the series deficit to two to one game four tonight with nation in power rankings in fact I'm coming out with a power ranking for power rankings which ESPN'S NFL power ranking right now debuted at number third on my list Al Buehler he's been dominant he could be the guy that's a good question what do you think Kershaw I would think is egos bruised really Clayton Kershaw right I mean no matter what the numbers are due to Let's go to Steve Steve Go ahead your audience Bien Radio Yeah I'm just one of the guys who needed about seven points from Baker Mayfield inside the did you have the experience of the weekend that I had will fuller on your bench seven points season man if the dodgers lose in the first round that's my reason for this game being interesting like obviously the dodgers of the powerhouses you think of yourself as a any staff number one starter he's had almost a full season in the postseason and the numbers just haven't been good just not good right they're not even close to what he doesn't the ones that are supposed to get past this and they're the ones that all the nerves and that's going into this house money baby yeah I'd rather have Strasbourg right over bieler abuse great you mark go ahead you're on ESPN radio excuse me I got back all these it is like your any let's take let's do this we're gonNA take some calls here make fun of Mike if you want seven eight six four five six four eight three seven let's go busiest day start up the day start of the day busiest out of the day awesome more by a lot of baseball game on you baseball season started over snacks changing the narrative Wjr and I never heard anything about it after the fact and I was like of course when I saw this headline saying that it's on hold I'm like wait a minute I mean I knew this didn't happen but why are we uh-huh negative points when should've had a touchdown pass that is a painful fantasy laws seven points gives you negative to it was bad you know he takes a honeymoon in the middle of season does that rings Greg Greg You have no Hey Matthew Matthew Mixing Damian Williams and who else you didn't Allen Oh wow I don't know who's available in your league I mean you know what are you not informed we went to these calls Greg I don't know I am the undefeated logo as me I WANNA game with one of my running back scoring zero points this week Greg Lost Lebatardshow who did not show up to the draft does not set his kershaw get the start in game five so badly Euler this whole thing is an indictment on Kershaw what I've been saying for years the fact that they're going bueller instead of Kershaw and game one weekend don't get me started I mean the Lobos et a tough weekend let's put it that way all right we'll get to your we all right let's go out to let's go to scary to look at it was the Bego Dow play the play against the jets Mike where he six-yard slam he took like ninety yards yeah and it was it was a breakdown in coverage to a safety bengals fan among Solu- he got zero win dolphins aren't trying to win though we got four wins they have a must lose games mm-hmm everyone's available I wonder how kershaw takes all that do you think he looks the manager he's like I don't care what my numbers are in the postseason I'm your ace or does he say all right get the hell out of here right now he's got his back my guy here the other way around I told you to get the hell out of here waning fantasy seventy passing yards maybe a ten yard touchdown pads but I'm not here to blame just Baker Mayfield catch the ball belt it's Galloway's fault all right back to whatever that is gonNA check out let's go to Matt Mack go ahead you're on. ESPN right up on his honeymoon fraudulent opponent Dan's levels we're GONNA kick him out of the League I'm serious I he auto drafts he doesn't show up tasing two and three my core is Joe Mixing Damian Williams OPEC Keaton Alan who do I trade and who do I get like asking Greg had great candidates apply he also ziprecruiter's candidates rating feature to filter his application so he could focus on the most relevant ones and that's how dylan found his new identifies people with the right experience and invites them to apply to your job so you qualified candidates fast dylan posted his job on Ziprecruiter and said he was impressed by how quickly he recruiters effective for businesses of all sizes trust Ziprecruiter for free at our exclusive web address ziprecruiter dot com slash Dan that's ziprecruiter dot com slash da N. Ziprecruiter dot com slash Dan Ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire geico Presents Monster Counseling Dracula tell me how you feel but he was having trouble finding qualified applicants so he switched Ziprecruiter Ziprecruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding you it finds them for you it's technology awed seven eight six four five six four eight three seven billy weren't you supposed to go on that expedition with those aches go even conversations and these were in Mars take brings great point you guys are Dolphin fans I mean you're a jets fan yeah rods hiring can be a slow process cafe alter Coo Dylan Miskel wits needed to hire a director of coffee for his organic coffee company they don't even see myself anymore if you don't see yourself clearly can you really expect others to I'm having a breakthrough it's not easy to be no one understands how lonely these no one will even let me into their house I knock knock but they ignoring me what else I look in the Mirror Golfie in just a few days about that with results like that it's no wonder four out of five employers who post on Ziprecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day see the Stugatz I grew up in a French family my uncle used to sing the best sorry I call him various friends Gone Yeah Greg is that happened to you where you just had like it happened to me I'll the trans jump against you I've gone through lean years with the packers all of the browns and goal browns you got my back. Am Radio There's nothing more enjoyable than Greg cody laughing or singing along to his own rejoined ESPN radio is presented by Progressive Home Insurance get your progressive dot com today let's go to Rob Rob go ahead you're on ESPN radio they might this is rod from Cincinnati and I just got one thing to tell anybody it's better than being a bengals fan a good powering stugatz who's two one on that list this is where historic falls because it's a competing it's a non espn entity so we don't want to air it on Robert Goulet songs in the kitchen in French and so that was some of the soundtrack of my childhood had an uncle mono in and eh in a deciding game five is exactly what I'm saying about Clayton Kershaw good in the post season I mean it should be going with Bueller though Kershaw's what they've been there third best pitcher this season yet the dolphins are bad they make St really sad so we refund stats the make us laugh that's right they're bad and finally a pet cat in England went missing ten years but is now back to its owners arms thanks to a scanned microchip this sport center's brought to you by advance auto the Dan Le Batard show appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line and now your sportscenter update Adam Silver said he's still planning to go to China for preseason and the Lakers and the nets later in the arch think ahead think advance at any time one in four batteries is about to fail get a free battery testing free installation with any automotive battery purchase at advanced auto parts for all the latest headlines Pyre but with Geico it's super easy to switch and save hundreds on your car insurance Donlevatar Blewett those everybody on the Lewis the nets were scheduled to dedicate a new learn play center at a primary school in Shanghai as part of the League's NBA cares program but the event was cancelled by China's education department. Why should I know I don't like Mixing Damian Williams so this is a call in segment from Mike go ahead and trail back I get the hell out of here let's go to the Greg Cody Israel Gutierrez sitting in as the honeymoon continues poll questions right off the top at Lebatardshow on twitter week he says that the League is apologetic for the reaction of Darryl Maurice tweet now deleted tweet but will not apologize for Moore's exercising of his freedom of expression the NBA The dolphins offense has nine hundred total yards this season Christian McCaffrey has eight hundred sixty six yard ends at caesars or anything what happened there you want to keep doing this Okay Matthew Guy Head Greg I need your help oud starting to starting to run away from me started off strong but city those were the days man what else do you want to know about Montreal no more about diddy I think her name was edith I'm not sure why we called it information tune into sports and on ESPN radio all throughout the day? Chris is GONNA join us in a half hour Ron McGee on an hour greg cody Israel good Erez sitting in Dan is on his honeymoon eh but the thing is is that it's like forty five seconds to a minute in so you have to do is you have to Kinda just stall and talk like I'm doing right now get to that point in the song yes so like there's a point in this song Chris road out there's a point in this song where you're here coming up for the music stops and we're all supposed to chant the dolphins are bad so we'll it up this way this is a crazy game that's the saddest game in NFL history this weekend Dolphins Redskins just lose game but I think greg wants the dolphins to win find out next oh no Beckham in keenum on and you want to know which of the four you should cut trader I'm thinking I'd trade either Odell Beckham or Kia now who do I go and get it's clear you want you want a quarterback that was eighty to twenty to to to him if a guy wants to learn let's get to the dolphins data day Whoa I mean second I got a Tab Open Cleveland browns shing courtesy of Pity makes sense yeah edith right did he did he did he didn't he that was the joke growing up this is the litter show with Stugatz on ESPN on that the greatest use of imaging and the history of this radio show you know they're supposed to be more to it but we haven't gotten to get converse uh-huh and honestly it's better than being jets fan too so tell Stu Gods to get out of there the style of the day start of the day steadily day in history of the day start of the day start of the day it's kind of keep gambling and talking about whatever just fill- fill- fill- fill- fill- and the music repeats and repeats and repeats and then eventually gets the point of the song where break and what you do is everybody says in unison the dolphins are bad but again it's not this point yet but we're getting toward soon where the music just stop and everybody says the dolphins keep earned more this season thirty one and a half million dollars in the entire raise lineup the opposed yesterday if you're wondering I have Christian McCaffrey has eight hundred sixty six yards hymns the dolphins of bad they make a stereo sad so we refund his stats to make us laugh aw this season has nine hundred modal Yaw off this the the Heiki it away what they're just be one right now we're gonNA start it all over oh slowly they're still two guys breaking news it looks like there's another portion that's coming up in like three seconds where we can do it ready I love it better we could also just record it and drop it in there so we don't have that try to have the perfect timing in seconds to get to it or do you have another stat or you WanNa go same stat but I do want to do this again and billy this is your wheelhouse filling time who's better than dolphins bad they make us do real sad so we refunded stats make us laugh that's right they're bad that grain that's why they're and the dolphins do you ever notice that Grizz I don't you just read the same stat again let's ah there another one ed thought over here that found Choi made eight hundred fifty K. Garcia made three point five million low made a million denard made three and a half million timer made but also get to say yeah they make really sad coming up right here and I mean they're going to win it's going to be this week right there's another one coming up here real quick I still like ten seconds and you're GonNa get the rhythm right a- all right we're getting ready coming million batting eighth making eight million atoms made five hundred sixty two domus really perfect coming up next how many major league baseball managers can you name Donlevatar Greg Cody of the Miami Herald who is a source of constant frustration the first of a new phase in which back in my days are occasional not every week so he has just announced officially his laziness STU gods they're all of them yes he has made five hundred fifty eight thousand meadows made five hundred fifty seven thousand Bam made four point one million entitlement and narcissism this is what he says after five years this is either the last back in my day as a regular series or the the Dan lebatardshow appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line and now your sportscenter update Adam Silver said he's still planning to go to China for the preseason game between the Lakers and that's later in the week he says that the League is apologetic for the reaction of Darryl Maurice tweet but will not apologize for more he's exercising his freedom of expression the NBA and the nets were ability. I think it's too far to change this short or something maybe one for this is good practice but you know comes back we're going to have the timing just right and we're not going to be ready here we go old man told Lufkin Texas police officers that the Wvu made him try to smuggle items out of a Walmart without paying for them Thursday the satisfying crunch of nature the someone's reading just in time it take it away billy all right we're still like twenty seconds away there has to be a way too short so that it's closer name's Chad that's a good question home against the Redskins at bills at steelers only gets yet yes I wanNA make him an occasional series I am once a week but I think more occasional I think every time you don't have a back in my day you can't do the show they got together I feel it's we're closer valley crunch bars can keep your family going which means more outside fun for you and with whole grain oats and real delicious on it's really tasty to nature of Elliott and honey crunchy bar in my old on the bad we say the next time I mean they're bad yeah that's good but that takes away from the fun and the communal yeah everybody chain down Chris can you imagine we spring this on him when he gets back who this could be our wedding gift you plan this out you guys think the dolphins will still be winless by that it's sad habits that the dolphins actually have a Nice four-game stretcher do they really the only tough games the bills built with a piece with a bunch of different pieces from different vendors and when they decided to pull the plug on the mobile they disassemble the mobile and they return the pieces to said vendor so the Booker Dole to dedicate a new learning play center at Primary School in Shanghai as part of the League's NBA cares program but the event was cancelled by China's Education Department and finally at Twenty Nine Kabila Josh Rosen joined the XFL the bad that's how you do it that is to say something right before the break Chris could read some more word the journalist longer happy ran out of dolphins conversation between we're waiting waiting you need the dolphins fan solution to the booker mobile was just put a massive like big screen TV behind him which then blocked the view even more than I think they put like clear plexiglas or something okay okay that's fine because I have a contract so if you WANNA pay me for not doing the show that's probably paying for doing nothing we already do that's a good the now we're getting somewhere short note that I gat just a little bit mobile is no more that varies so much potential what was the problem people were mad that book was getting in their way right yeah I think that at one point I'm a big Baker Mayfield San okay But when he was coming out in the DRAB MOM my problem was when when he had a play big defensive line billy do you have an update here on the Burger Mobile. What's going on there I saw you working during the break you were trying to get an update on what's going on with the Burger mobile have you arrived at an update Mayfield gets a little nervous the Rawling to Dell still at this point but it was just an overall but whooping by the San Francisco Forty niners and you know I'll say this and the pocket collapses what is he going to be able to do sizes a skill I mean guys that are really tall and big in the pocket there is a skills when this conversation comes up again December they're that good still how could you tell Baker was nervous I don't know I just know you know again unbutton wherever you get your podcast he's also the Co host of pro football talk on NBC and a friend of the show? Chris what's going on yeah what's up guys how you doing man certainly say that I mean it was a bad day I mean first off I mean just some of the early incompletions to Odell Beckham junior which were off target I almost feel like Baker I for all the latest headlines and information tune into sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day. Chris Simms GonNa join us in just a second row McGill in about a half hour I don't know but people were not thrilled with what was going on with the Burger mobile and how much it was kind of distracting from the game all right let's bring on Chris Simms Download and listen to Chris sins I have so we were not the only ones that were interested in this and you're Marshon of the New York Post wrote a story about this earlier this year and it turns out the bigger mobile was as you saw last night is very affected by he can't always see downfield and it was really one of my big concerns when he came out of Oklahoma it's why I made him the third best quarterback of that draft just because of games like Georgia if you remember back from the final four game that year same type of thing but ugly showing and really this is the other point of what we saw last night very good over there yeah we're having a lot of Fun Make Fun of Mike Ryan today after Baker Mayfield performance last night go ahead break it down make one of them was there's nothing positive to say Galloway early on in my career I wanted them to like me so much oh my gosh these guys are so cool and so awesome I wanna put the ball in the most perfect place wants to make it happen so badly that yeah just Baker a little off target certainly and they left some yards and some opportunities to get the momentum back on their side early clearly above the rest of the NFL right now I think the biggest thing is I think there's a big gap between them and the AFC that's what worries me more than anything the forty niners are for real they're one of the best teams in football they're not going anywhere this is not a fluke they will be in the running for a first round bye there because of their size when people are around them people were in their face guys like Tom Brady and Ben Rothlisberger in than their unaffected by that Baker Mayfield. It's a good one I got no retort DC's lebatardshow with this to God's own Espn Radio Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance more like another year where Robert Kraft is raising the dam trophy is there any hope that anybody is is going to beat New England when it counts or is it nervous when I get a super when when I was a quarterback as far as superstar quarterbacks throwing to or not superstar quarterback quarterback throwing the superstar wide receivers I mean that's Kansas City the way they are and as you see there so one dimensional in the way they play and if they don't have a tyree kill and they can't throw the ball deep and pressure now in the NFC Mike that's a little different I think there's some teams there that can challenge the the New England Patriots Becomes Super Bowl time I'm not giving up on the Dallas Cowboys we'll come back to the huddle and be like throw Chris you're awesome too hard yes yeah right he is special that's why I say crack the code like that's what he did last night it's like you know he figured out remember the old like Nintendo contract code up up down down left right on to slow down the forty niners but man Kyle Shanahan he cracked the code last night he knew Steve will defense inside and out and had some great game just because it seems almost inconceivable now there's like New England and then a big drop the number two or am I wrong while I think there's that's fair plan design plays that really screwed it over Chris we're more than a quarter into the season now the chiefs just lost Dallas stumbled a little bit I it's more always by any stretch of the imagination I still think they're one of the best teams in football roster wise they got a little loose early on that game last week with some turnovers and things ways to move the ball on bill belichick and you know the Seattle seahawks okay the New Orleans saints you know those are the teams that I look at that will be waitress Chris Brown's first second is the pocket collapsing the way we're looking at it or is Baker creating some of that and also yesterday in terms of I in Janus wisdom with Jackson that failed experiment down there in Tampa you know sometimes we'll take the first time through to like keyshawn Johnson or job Kyle Shanahan versus Freddie Kitchens how much of a mismatch was that in terms of offensive play calling yeah okay all right so the first let's I'll do the Kyle Shanahan thing I I mean that way they have no run game they have no short task game their defense is in very good so they're not a good matchup for the New England Patriots the New England Patriots certainly favour there that'll happen to you but I still think they can be a pain in the but I think the forty niners we've seen Kyle Shanahan in the super bowl when he was the offense coordinator for the Falcons Hill University of Texas initial around like a symbol that we all had together not one of my brightest moments in the history of my life okay sorry he created two he's not in the category of Shanahan mcdaniels Sean Payton Sean McVeigh but he's still very good but the biggest thing have issues that was their issue against the rams threw the ball too much they had to throw all quick quick throws because they can't hold up that way they need to be a run for hardest match ups for New England if it comes down to super bowl time and you know maybe be able to pull off an upset or beat to beat the great franchise of the New England a long long time I mean go back to his years as the offense coordinator for the Houston Texans they had they had top five offenses then and then he goes to Atlanta and then of course what he's doing now first team and that's what they were in Baltimore when they pulled off the upset two weeks ago but last night you know the game got out of hand with the interception early some missed opportunities I am GonNa absolutely screw over this defense with some of these game plan design plays that's where Shanahan is special we know is run game special I like Freddie Kitchens I think he's L. Shanahan somewhere on your body thank you for bringing that up I guess yes I have I have him and three other you know teammates of mine it's not easy right now because I mean this running game yeah it's better we're talking about it because it's the first time in like eight years they've had a running game so that's why we're talking about it running game not because of Aaron Rodgers was he experiencing all that yeah no I mean I'm sure he's like man this is great it's just not all my shoulders week after week after week now feels better you suddenly has a smile on trying too hard for doubt you feel better I feel bad you feel like early on he wants to make it happen to Dell so badly in Cleveland the defense leading up some big plays to where they kind of had to abandon the run game two-degree they never got to get to settle in that aspect of it and it just all fell apart from the left be Aba Select Start I mean he found it last night he was like oh I know what they do in these formations and Oud okay I'm going to go in the lab and drop a few plays and when you play Aaron Rodgers and then he makes you play all of a sudden you look up and you go down in Dago damage seventeen nothing damas twenty four nothing and when you throw interceptions to or the first three they'll be willing this will lead into what your other question was was and I've been really saying this on my podcast Cleveland browns it is not a good pass protecting offense align they have how's Shanahan special This is definitely one of the best offensive minds in football I mean you could you could argue he's the best offense in mind in football and he's been this I care about okay and that Aaron the Davidge Boone's using L. it I'm a Yankees Fan baby three we got the brooms out. It's gotta be refreshing for Aaron Rodgers Chris on the way out how many Major League baseball managers can you name Oh Gosh not many you can name them Saquon Barkley is unlikely to play Thursday night against the Patriots despite returning to practice late last week the Patriots Cut Benjamin Watson and finally passing offense so there's still a lot on his shoulders but it's not like you guys have heard me come on before he doesn't have to do seven cartwheels a backflip and then like how does it quarterback think in terms of Rogers what is he thinking right now because he's been asking forever hey defense running game now he has both and they're winning because of the defensive Oh a forty four yard laser for them to win a football game anymore at least it is a little bit more balanced and you know what you saw the other day in the first half yeah the stats didn't like gotten there early was that I don't know did get back we're never going to do this you know to work we'll still be practice bad smell that you secretly enjoyed you have on like gasoline is there a bad smell that you secretly enjoy it yeah you know what the anytime guys be good good talking to you. ESPN radio is presented by Progressive Insurance guests on the Dan Lebatardshow appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line now your sportscenter update the first time really since they're super bowl teams that they had a defense that's you know somewhat top notch now it's not easy because like most people two hundred twenty three dollar fine and write a sincere letter of apology after he missed an August twenty first trial date because he overslept for all the latest headlines and information tune into sports hernias dodge some of those great defensive line for the cowboys make a few plays and then all of a sudden you look up and go damn they ran the ball he made a few plays and here we go twenty four nothing and they're they're rolling contempt of court last month by a circuit court judge who sentenced him to ten days in jail and one year formation despite having no prior criminal record he was also ordered to pay I talked to Ken name the receivers for the Green Bay packers they don't know you know and not leflore offense even though he has brought run game to it you know it's not the most creative pass game he got picked for jury jury jury duty in civil trial but Wendy Andre Somerville overslept it became a criminal matter for him the twenty one year old of West Palm Beach Florida was ruled indirect mm-hmm and the history of the world either I mean there was a reason when he was the offense coordinator for the Tennessee Titans last year it was the twenty seventh ranked offense and football and I believe like even lower that as far as they weren't amazing but I watched that film yesterday Stu Gods I mean there was people all around him and people weren't open in the past game but he did some Aaron Rodgers thing air grisons is excellent you check them out download and listen to Chris cinches unbuttoned wherever you get your podcast he's also the Co host of pro football talk and NBC don't you have a tattoo of I can fly over five thousand feet in fact one of the listeners called in and let me know that there is a type of crane that flies over a mountain range hey ron I got a question about my dog it's like thick part of different breeds of dog and part goat in always comes in bothers me well over ten thousand feet during migration so a bird can fly wool over ten thousand feet during my during this migration it's a crane I wanNA thank one of the listeners who call me up and said hey listen same time every night I don't like it away from me so I need to get my dog a comfort dog no no the dog is download and listen to Chris unbutton wherever you get your podcast he's also the host of for a pro football talk at NBC a friend of the show. He's Great Chris we appreciate them at thanks for the time Ah okay it's time it gets fed it's time to get walked or it's time for just a little love and that's part of their cycle animals are creatures of habit that way you just need to embrace it love it spaces in radio all throughout the day Sam Darnold has been cleared he will start for the New York jets against the Dallas Cowboys Ron McGill join US right now joins us every week days your phone call seven eight six four five is named after celebrities we don't have any of ours named after celebrities you know we were going to name a hippo Dan Libertad but that was nixed very quickly smell of Barn Horse Manure Barn there's a smell of a barn I love the smell of like a barn there kind of Manure Barn I love that snow six four eight three seven seven eight six four five six four eight three seven around we were discussing last segment we'll get to animals and everyone's calls in just a second in two thousand feet so it's in a place where a human would have a hard time breathing space and then it's not space but this I wanted to correct myself because I said eats everything terrorist things up you know they're smart as could be goats actually eat tin cans that's not my question I'm just curious they don't eat and I'm wondering what animals how do you decide what animals are important enough at the zoo to actually have a name and or any of US animals are are creatures of habit creatures routine it's probably either a time to get fed a time to get walked but these these animals have what they call the bio clocks these clocks it was a vulture that goes over five thousand feet on everyday basis when I'm wondering I'm wondering how high spaces like how far do you have to fly planes yeah no in Kansas but they'll put almost anything in their mouth on almost any question hey aside an appetizer miles up see nobody's GonNa fly like that he say his dog was parked goat hey that's what he felt like because you know it was just that's something I do I do really like the smell of a barn I dunno watch and listen guys before we continue to clarify something last time we talked about the bird that flies the highest into your head right there that's right all right do you have a question I do actually ron recently an antelope named Taylor swift escaped from the Sacramento Zoo. Yeah tell me where they're all the way they manage by being you're you're right I mean I I don't think you know now you're saying it to me I know I'm GonNa totally choke on that as well but there's only one you gotta know about this grant and he's right and the grain flying the space not into space what over ten thousand feet normally in places I mean as a matter of fact I think there's over fifty the Mike Yes yes I've had better moments in my life better better decisions for sure now it's going to be higher than the plane and there's got to be higher than thirty thousand feet okay let's go to Brian Brian go ahead you're on with Ron McGill go ahead we don't need to get bogged down try this we did ask anyway now we decided naming animal bad these it's too long to say the one the timing was off it's time that we start the whole thing over again be more charismatic more than mega vertebrate stay tend to get maimed run I recently saw a tweet I believe of a cat who was looking into a mirror and then went on both hind legs it's basically on their charisma you know it's it's hard to

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Mad Money w/Jim Cramer 01/17/19

MAD MONEY W/ JIM CRAMER

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Mad Money w/Jim Cramer 01/17/19

"This podcast is brought to you by TD Ameritrade when it comes to investing education, one size doesn't fit all TD Ameritrade helps you learn. Whether you're just starting out or an elite trader choose from articles, videos, webcast and more. Visit TD Ameritrade dot com slash education, member SIPC. My mission is simple to make you money on here to level the playing field investors. There's always a bulwark at summer, and I promised to help you find they have money starts now. Kramer, mad money. Welcome to Kramer, 'cause people make friends just try and make some money by job is just didn't care with educate. Teach put in context to call me one eight hundred seven for three or tweet me at Jim Cramer too cheap. I just keep hearing this market is too cheap. But it's a coral spring ready to explode higher on any good news reports that we might lift the tariffs on China. It order hasten to trade you despite the fact that there was no formal Najran for the west whatsoever. This whiff of a story sent the average is skyrocketing from new lows down only gaining one hundred sixty two pushes data hundred one point today, the S and B climbing points six percent, NASDAQ events and fleets more percent stocks have been crushed on Chinese worries run hire. Like this arrangement was already a done deal. This kind of positive action makes for far more resilient tape. Them me gotten used to late last year. This is the feels dangerous not to. Buy stocks. Even if the news about individual companies, it's nothing to write home about consider the ark of today's session because it really was rather remarkable. And I've not seen this behavior in age. Right. I woke up this morning at three Marco's looking little tepid largely because people weren't blown away by last night's numbers from C S X. Railroad giant Alcoa the aluminum came in. She has sex team Cochrane talked about many of its business lines being soft overnight Taiwan Semiconductor. To be inked double number and then guided down twenty two percent for the next quarter. Big deal. I don't know. Maybe I bought a each customer. That causes to get slammed even further in pre market trading. Oil had turned down to and that's often interpreters a sign of weaker economy. Not great by the time. I finished working out the Dow was slated to be down one hundred points. Worse as menu the office. I read the PG the picnicker of paints and cody's reporter, really, okay number. And then offer a totally dismal slash podcast. Nasty much lower than I expected, but in keeping with the week pre announcement from Sherwin Williams this week, the stock looked to open down four bucks. Then we got a note from an analyst at J P Morgan who sat down with management of Home Depot and shave numbers because of weakness in housing. It was a shocker. Depot was more correlated to strong and Plymouth into stagnant housing market. That's something case if that weren't enough then a real bomb detonated. Wargin Stanley reported a sub par core working Stanley. What can Stanley which I truly believed in settling this show at a memorial would be the best of the best given how much of its business is led to wealth management fabulous in unity street. I thought that's protected from the big screens and trading that have plagued all the banks perk from so far I was wrong. The month of December was just playing week, and it costs more instantly missile both the top and bottom line, the Solomons ak-. I thought made it better than the other banks would didn't come together. Granted it still cheap stock and it's a great for him. But it definitely broke the winning streak of the good news for the backs with that look like we will go down a hundred and fifty Dow points at the opening. But no not in twenty nineteen. This is where things have a habit of work it out, right? At least so far even before we got that report about a possible back to the president's Chinese tariffs. The stock market has started shrugged off the batteries news and working its way higher. Now. There's no there's no doubt that investors wanted -til with China in the worst way. And I actually mean the worst way as in the worst way for our country. The stock market doesn't care forget it could deal it wants eight deal. So we can get back to business as usual. That's why all the companies with big business in China. So the stocks u-turn and go higher including apple which had been hard hit, of course on that Taiwan semi news. I just described even when we got contra reports later in the session that perhaps there might be no deal these stocks held onto most of their gains. I have no way of knowing whether or not the story is genuine. But I think it's a sucker skin. Try to pick anything goes on in Washington is pure chaos down there right now, what matters though, but matters isn't trade deal. What matters is that. This is a Johnny Mercer one of my favorite favorite favorite writers of music. So Johnny Mercer market. Accentuates the positive and eliminates the net. You take the Morgan Stanley. Shocker. What am I saw it? I figured the whole group for the fans right day. But after being laid low by this point perhaps the roses you that would dissipate getting that a lot of it's based on overlooking the week month of of December. Nope, not at all the other Bank stocks kept going higher. Like, nothing Shays, James me didn't matter seal points, then. Away from batch. We saw some crazy fabulous rally form something based on nothing. We haven't heard much from any of these companies since last week's JP Morgan healthcare conference. But a stock like arrogant AGM, which has been ripping since our interview with Ben Saunders will continue to climb same with Louis, genuine, GlaxoSmithKline Milwaukee. And Jen even some of the companies that disappointed, so their stocks recover peachy, which I just told you tell before do that stock valley nearly five points in the possibility that one of its shareholders Nelson peltz, the famous eager engaged investor is trying to force the company to split into two payments. That's amazing move off a hideous boom, that's a sway of nine points. Trough the peak Taiwan semi get this downtown you percents. A pleasure. You what went higher rally was up almost two percent of the possibly the bottom. It's been put in oh and oil ended up higher China deal. So what the heck is going on? Here was I mean is it just to pas? Live. I keep coming back to the idea that the stock market just got to cheap at the your. We're still coming off the great bear market of December. That began actually when the fed decided to take the Konami out shoot a bear market that ended when Jay pal king do senses and stop chattering about the need for multiple rate hikes. I know we need to be vigilant within minutes of hearing about a potential trade deal. We were merely greeted with people talking about whether pow would immediately start raising interest rates, again, if the reached understand China, I think that's nonsense, by the way. I now that's remember we got Ruth ridiculous government shutdown. I think he's going to hurt the economy, and we're hearing woma companies they're saying, oh, then the close with Marcus specimen deaths reported less than overwhelming numbers with ladder giving way earnings per share and revenue guidance. I quit supply luck. Especially if I thought you'd be doing better Netflix. What can I say that stock was up a quarter? We give you the bottom line in what some people think is confusing moment. And I'm saying is actually a moment of clarity of rationality. You see when you see this kind of positive action you need to recognize what's driving in the fourth quarter. Stocks got way too cheap. And that overreaction to the downside has created incredible values. They give investors sense of certainty. They know they won't be brought out if they buy something because there's only so much downside from these levels. When you have that sense of certainly it's very easy to pull the trigger. And by. Which is why twenty two twenty too much better year than many investors expected. I think we start the calls by going to Bill in Florida Bill. Jim thanks for taking my call. My pleasure. Like about till Ray. Now, the your walked up expired in the thought about twenty dollars a third of the year buyers though on the way in the eighties, or do you think that will continue? You know, what I I'm not a big fan. I like canopy. And then if you're going to go the other way, you don't wanna little more go crop corners. I care about the companies that have a ton of money, and boy, his canopy have a lot of money. Bruce Linton kinda hitting all cylinders. Why don't they show in your push gel? Hi, Joe in the up Manhattan here, we have an Addison Rustico, stay west side. I almost got weren't the other day. What's up? I love a question about Delta Airlines. I bought into Delta Airlines the lowest back in December. And we get that great number from your night at a couple of days ago. But he didn't seem like the writing tied lifting. All both. I'm wondering what you feel about delta. Joe, I think that United is taking share from downton American, and that's why I think you make a bad investment. You gotta go with Oscar. He's the guy who's doing it right now. He is he's the right horse. I wanna go to Josh in Florida. Josh. Got the Kramer from Tampa Bay. All right. Apple how can I help you? Yeah. I have a two part question about five below. So we got an upgrade for Morgan Stanley increase holiday sale. Your year the drug trade tensions of China? Where do you see five blow going on? I'm wearing. I'm not worried about the changes we had him on. I think that they can source. Well, I am not concerned at all. I am more concerned about whether foles will go to Tampa babies you guys done with Winston than I am about five. Belo's earnings let's carrying Dame and counting California too. Jim can Newport Beach, California. So walk question, but following you on retail, okay and start buying stock that you had talked about this in back in July seventeen and added positions all the way up through April. But you didn't match the yesterday want to know your take on the bird G O S can cause I should've mentioned it, frankly that was my bad. I like the company very much. It's been very choppy hard run our own because of the China tension. I think the China tensions Oregon be remember. I like candidate coups T O S. This is a former resilient tape than we're used to things. Just have a habit of working out right now, we've got to own that. There's a gold mining sector megamerger. Could it be time to go for the gold? I'm talking cooking. Gold score woman moved to wealth. So it means for the rest of the second that belongs to a shutdown mistress continue war. So how could it impact earnings the season? I'm giving you my take and what could twenty nineteen full tech companies my in under the radar sort of play to see. What's ahead? So stay with claimer. Don't miss a second of mad money. Follow at Jim Cramer on Twitter. I have a question. Tweet Gramer hashtag mad tweets send Jimmy mail to mad money at CNBC dot com or give us a call at one eight hundred seven four three CNBC miss something. Ed tha mad money dot c in DC dot com. It's been ten years since Bernie Madoff shocked the world with his sixty five billion dollar scam. I'm Scott co I'm Chuck shea for the story is not over yet in a special CNBC podcast series. We're going behind bars, including my conversation with made off himself. We catch up with investigators and made off thick them. And we ask can it happen again. Subscribed today to the American greet podcast. Ever since the market meltdown? Last quarter of the price of gold has been on a roll. That's exactly what you spend ties of economic chaos, but there's Coon works the story because earlier speak. We've learned want Mining's by Goldcorp for ten billion dollars. All stock transaction which comes on top of wrangles fairly recent virtual Berrocal. So will you once legal Myers have become a lot more intriguing when you see a spate of deals you. Gotta ask yourself penis. When you look at the small mid tier go by one of the best players Kirkland lake. Gold kale for your home games. A company that operates in Canada and Australia cookman leg stock has more than doubled since its chairs being trading on the new York Stock Exchange distant also, twenty seventeen more importantly, the company's giving us a series of positive updates in recent months at the end of November. We learned about some terrific results from the key mine in Australia, then last week some fabulous quarter fourth-quarter production numbers thirty nine percent year veer and much higher. This those are some stellar fundamentals. And you've also got the possibility of more than as a. Activity in the space. So let's take a closer look with Tony macoute. He's the presidency of corporate late goal. Get a veteran or is companies Mr. welcomed money. Oh, thank you. They say they be here and get the paternity. To kill you. Lots of good things about kale goal. Well, Tony, let's talk about what was the message that you sent to investors in your investor day. Well, I think equality people's look at look at our share price performance say dis, you know, talks most doubled in the last year and a half. You know, I think I missed what what's is nothing more left here, and he tried to tell people. Well, we're not even the best is still yet to come. But we have a strong strong earnings growth year year, we expect to see that we're profitable company growing cash flow. And then I think one of the biggest things we talk about growing our production. But we're going going our production at at at higher grades lower unit cost. So it's even more valuable growth coming forward than what would have been in the Paso. You know, this is this is a pretty exciting company, and it's also very valuable investment. And you know, you don't even have to have to watch what the price of goals when you just have to watch what the company's doing. You know, what I have to tell you Tony that I had started to feel the candidate was tapped out, and there was no inexpensive order to be taken out of the ground. And there was too much money in the cost too high. Why does why does crooked lake have these properties? Noel seems to have them left. You know, a lot of times, you know, you have to explore. I mean, sometimes the best place to look for gold is where you already found it. The the mine we have in Australia. I mean, I think we're on the cusp of. I've said before we only tiger by the tail on the cusp of of as as of a great new discovery. So as much as we've already found, they think there's there's something really big here and something really special very high grade and very high margin opera mind there and part of it, then is is you get that you get that scale because of because what we did in kurkin link old few years back the merger of three smaller come to make one bigger company gives us more capital discipline ability to display capital better. And and and invest wisely in these mines that we weren't able to do privately prior to your. Just because your company we're seeing some lower growth companies merged the, but the big off my friend gave favor, and I would tell him today. What is this urge to merge among the Newmont's mung the the barracks which had been different generation both companies? Maybe you know, sometimes sometimes by putting that together. I mean, again, if you look at kurkin linked by us merging, we did back in two thousand sixteen Saint Andrews on with new market gold. We're able to put ourselves in a physician where we could we could now invest differently and look at our minds differently. We're able to close some minds that that were non-profitable and take a step back and reinvest in them, we had the capital resources available to us more money. You know, I think that that that goes for the larger players as well. And meaning there's lots of things that can happen. You can change your in terms of how how you can move the business forward that bite by doing these mergers. And I think they're on they're on the right track. I can't say that anything wrong with it. Because he look at the example of kurkin link goals in the success. We've had and you have to see that. This is the these these people in these groups can be successful to tell about goal of a gold bug is every news is a just show. I've always said people should have some exposure to go with gold coins. And find the bully. Terrific. What do you think goals going? We I know I get that asked me a long time to me, you know, I in the long term. I think gold is always going to be V be definitely something that we always going to be around in gold. Gold is is is you know, these you can't you can't print more of it. You can't dilute it down. It is what it is. But if if if we just look at where gold is today, and and and you know, in US dollar terms with we're just tucking around thirteen hundred dollar now's, but in Australian dollar terms golden, December actually peak peak peak pricing for goal then it's testing that same in the Canadian in Canadian dollar terms. So gold is is is very strong lary are today. And you know, I think as teacher goes on people will more and more see that gold as an investment than and and and that and and value some some way short value is is going to be important surprised when bitcoin was up so much goes down so much. Not really, I mean, sometimes you get you know, people will look at something as as a new investment or a new opportunity, and they invest in it. But but then at the same time, I think as as time goes on we all get a chance to to understand what's happening. And you know, again, everybody will go back and look got all these things bitcoin, but one thing about gold. It's tangible asset tangible tangible value that I can I can hold in my hand. Well, I couldn't agree with you more. I I was stay Schori. Big Clemson twenty thousand goal was only eleven hundred twelve minutes. Crazy when does it Monday can print all they want and the other one you can't find it all I've gotta tell you. Tony macos. Congratulations on your finding costs and on your growth, you are troop growth company. He's presencio Kirkland lake gold. Great to see you, sir. Over and over. Again, we keep hearing the same thing from company after company I quote, wishy. No significant slowdown only minimal impacting the government shutdown unless it lasts court. Get used to this words because I think they're the new normal discerning season. The first part that no significant slowdown pretty much implies the business. Did Pete ORs have full off. But it's not because business organically got worse is widespread sense of fear created by fed chief Jerome Powell tolls. Here's willing to destroy the economy in order save it back in October. This when the fed starts talking about a series of lockstep rate hikes. Then businesses have to pull in their horns, spend, less preserve the capital. It's just the reasonable thing to do as long as Powell's on the warpath companies also had to prepare for less consumer spending two now the palace regained his senses. Those published do go away. So course, there's a new problem the government shutdown which is getting eight speed huge ripple now that we're back to Newark at twenty seven think of it like this shriek can take eight hundred thousand people off the spending cred now that they're missed their second paycheck to paycheck to paycheck in this country. But what's the multiplier effect from that? When it comes to travel. How about leisure retail bills pay the answer? I think you're getting what I would regard as being determined trying to search for by came up with this morning. You've got an uninsured. Hurricane going on. And we don't know when it will end or how much damage it will do the incentive shutdown just cannot be crafts. I don't know if the lead two zero GDP as Jamie diamond see of JP Morgan city earlier this week. I don't know why he said that maybe trying to be statesman make Washington or stand to grab this situation. Maybe really believes g Puka possibility. Oh, please don't raise Mr. fed. Now what I do know is this. She's so don't want to hear that we slowed that the government shutdown going lead the forecast cuts because after this run from the bottom we won't be able to handle any guy down without taking some real hits than mid-session. How can you protect yourself question? Where's all right? I let this market Ribisi. I'm gonna say I think you have to trigger position socks that are related to the sooner and that money into stocks that are lever to sect to the growth trends turns that won't let up even if there's a significant slid on the Connie caused by the government shutdown which I have. I don't see any president cave in one bit. All right now, you can't give me rash. Say the Democrats caving either. I'm not trying to be political. I'm just saying the king irrational here and washing use ruinous to irrational curve, balls Ulsan row and insanely overzealous fed chief would strangle I thought the economy the order, stop, even the bears hint of inflation and elected officials who wanted to sacrifice the whole economy over few billion dollars for most symbolic wall. At this point. I think the president should just call for donations from rich people who want the will the government we owe pedal ready, whether you love the idea or you hate it. We all be better off when this shutdown ends Jeffrey in New York, Jeffrey good eating Missa cream. I have a question for you. Sure. I know you're right. Not to buy stock all at once that you should buy one hundred shares twenty-five twenty five ships at at a time. Right. My question is what about on the sofa? Guide. If you're still onto shares the same strategy apply. Yes. It does at for. I had a club. Call today eleven fractures, plus dot com club, and we talked about lagging in leading in and leading out there the same thing, you do not want to let it all go because what happens is if he keeps telling you say, why did I do that? Especially the good ones. How about Mike fucking of autumn? Mike. How you doing Jim Mike? I gotta tell him little puzzle about the trade stuff, but otherwise good. What's going on on doing? Okay. Trying to have more winners than losers as usual part. My question to us about Raytheon's. It's you know, it's since about April asker is kinda been steady down and took some hits, you know, towards the end of last year, I've been selling calls against it and still holding onto it. But I'm interested in your thoughts strategy. No, we own Raytheon for the club. And it's not the good candidly. I talked about today. Little let down, but that was because the house went democratic I think the government shutdown, right? Gonna take off. And I think you started seeing an inkling of that. When Raytheon started going up with from. And I don't want you to to sell calls for now let it lift a little and then sell calls, but I think it's got some upper bias now how Nick Anna why neck Aloha McGruther Jim Ma partner. But hey, wanna see what's on the power birth? I mean, this is beaten up and beaten up the in the last year, which which thinking point. Bill Margaret on the other day when I was doing halftime. He likes it patiently pressure puppies. Get a little bit stronger gonna take the other side of the trade and say, it's just a trading vehicle. It's not investable. I don't want people to try to avoid it. Thank you to Jack Rover. Putting that idea our heads, and I'm sticking with it the way check out great man as you heard today. Okay. Now, you can't gain the Arash, but your best strategy is to trim shares of companies that related to the consumer because of this junk down and episodes those second book because I will see any. I don't do you money hadn't including my screws with a couple of this up one hundred fifty percent in less than two years. And you may have never put it all reveal the name. Just a hip gotta pay it sound pretty it's been does your before you have what it takes on nodes in this market. All be the judge of that. When we play 'em verse by the way, calls rapid rapid-fire. Tonight's addition lightning round. Stay with claimer. Tomorrow kickoff. Trading day was squawk on the street. From post nine at the NYSE. How see it's W E L L POW fifty works for Philadelphia. Chris like, Alan, Al AWOL AL. It all starts at nine AM eastern. Melt the clouds socks are making a comeback today. Eighty sell off last year, which was might be worth circling back to regular us all about the cloud kings, cloud perces, but I wonder would do one a little bit smaller hails big customers. That's happy corporation. These guys provide customers with a cloud based platform that helps him to their own locations, especially for business process management app is all about what's on low code Moutome for us in the Show, Low code development, their sulphur makes it easier for programmers to make tools without to a lot of code it. Now, this came public in may of two thousand seventeen twelve bucks. And even if the meltdown late last year with one hundred hundred sixty percent to thirty one throwing changes today, of course, agonise rebounded dramatically from slows like the other class stocks it Baden's to put the socks to well off. It's forty three dollars all time from this summer. So can this keep climbing here? Let's take close local back call. It's he's the Fallon shipments. You of app. Corporation. We're about his business. What they do. And where it's headed Mr. calms. Welcome money to see. Okay. So we're always trying to figure out for viewers where do you fit in the food chain? For instance, when I read this platform, and what you thought of totally because we spent a lot of time there with Geoff Lawson. Here's your porter. We are partners with really, oh, we together twila who have a customer contact centre offering that makes the context center, far more intelligent and together. We've got a lot of great assets the app, Ian, context center alford's case management, where the best in the world case measure recorded of the analysts. So we got that edge. We've got art official intelligence built in to tell you how happy the customers are at any given moment in the conversation and give you three hundred sixty degree view of all the data about the customer. So the agent is fully informed. The moment the call comes in. Okay. So that would be why Dallas Fort Worth and they would pick you the airport. Right. Yeah. We're proud of this one Fort Worth has roll this out to literally every employee of the entire airport. They start with a few application. And they ended up with more than forty and they did the entire roll out in eighteen months, which really gets me to the core of happiness value proposition. It's not just that we can make new applications for big businesses. We can do it quickly and that makes us different from our competitors. It. Sure be. I'm looking at this. I have to tell you. I was cut a shocked. Having Howard many different companies new space by other Alfred the street. The idea you give an opinion guarantee. Eight weeks, I've never heard of natural guarantee. Never we're a platform for building applicastions, and you know, the whole world these days needs their own software applications, so it's a big market, but it's a complicated difficult market. And most of those firms expect to spend millions of dollars and maybe years eating their next application. So we come in. And we say you enough to spend millions of dollars in years. He's been eight weeks hundred fifty thousand dollars a services and your first app is live. That's that's our guarantee we just launched it. Pushback on this. Yeah. I've gotten many companies to give me guarantee and the guarantee meant nothing and in the end, there was always a problem. I always heard it was my fault. How are you able to do where we'll do it because we're doing it already? We just wanted to raise the profile. Let people know this was our advantage against our competitors. We had the fastest most elegant way to build a new piece of software and we wanted to put up blazing spotlight on that. So we issue the guarantee and we're pretty much guaranteeing. What we were already doing. Now, a one companies have a number of times logistics company knew of different things that are moving around as rider again. This is a company that has to have a very sophisticated platform. And that's you. Yeah. We work with writer the entire truck cycle where trucks are are checked in checked out and inspected and repaired and all that that'll runs unhappy. And right now in using and they cut in half the amount of time. It would take any of us to Reggie truck. If we went to the rider lot. We want to drive a truck off cut in half the customer satisfaction was up by ten points as soon as they rolled out on happy, and they got this common perspective bringing together. What? Would have been different silos different applications, golden. Oh, yeah. We do. We do a lot of work with Goldman. Definitely. They will at least context center on us. And yeah, I fiscal technology has such smart people. Yes, they're very vicious. They're they're very sophisticated and they built a lot of things in house. It was big deal that they were willing to use platform because I didn't know I mean, they've got technology people at the very top of the from the ten not wanna go out. So this is one of the big differences between Afghan and all the rest of the local market. Everybody understands the low code is easy, and it's fast. It makes locations quickly. What they don't understand low code can be a great way to build a powerful application. Now client like Goldman tells Fort Worth they wouldn't want to build an application less powerful. They do as mission critical. So the fact that they would choose platform says something about the substance that were totally kidding. I know you also have a work with the FDA in the US. And Suzanne told I said Finally, I have someone I've got to ask about the shutdown is the shutdown impacting your business. Okay. The shutdown may slow some things down. You'll see contracts waiting on somebody's desk for the for the you know, the the signatory to come back in. So there's a slowdown in the envelope. I think the shutdowns impact on the economy today is a relatively small, and I don't expect it will be too disruptive. So do we have to worry that you'll have to asterisk next your next quarter because of contracts that were not signed because of the shutdown right? The shutdown will affect ours and everybody else's quarter. But I think that the shutdown will be determinative were decisive in the in the shape of that quarter. I've got one minute. I'm going to ask you about this. You're a top Fisher at the world board gaming chip inch. Everybody forgets, very Richardson. They're becoming popular can't that's fantastic. I love him. I play them competitively published. Three board games. Yeah. I was thinking hard as a war game about the founding of the Tokugawa shogunate, and I've tin goose's about running an airline thirties. So I published if you I'm working on a few others. It's a great hobby. Makes you better. See you if the intensity behind it, and the be able to see something complicated extract. What's important? I think it's helped me a lot don't actually. I mean, honestly Kinley. I mean, I'm a monopoly, basically. Matters. Sorry. Well, I I like acquire choir. That is officers. I love that game. Father used to sell the most acquire the full theory. Wow. Okay. If you like business games about power grid or automobile other favorite socks, much VN. These are these these three m games. Yeah. I know. Of course, I said, I wonder if he can play crimes against humanity, and they said that's cards against. To light. That's bad coal better. Shares of app in Bursa fisted big stuff. You saw that clients at very tough to be their monies back to the brain. And then the lightning round is over. Are you ready? Here. Let's go to Alexander in New Jersey Alexander Peru. Jim thanks for taking the call. You bet. They wouldn't you think about this armored transport company that moves cash and they're getting into moving cannabis now Ezio, it's Brinks. What do you moving money to canvas stores? Okay. Listen, I think this brings down tickets the I thought it was great quarter. I think the stock is a by reason wherever it's really good. Christopher in California clipper. Away from your thoughts on sangam for flukes event. Several medical stuff from the past few also. Keelboat for unified on curious. What was the one? I'm sorry. You know, what I look it's a great spec. I mean, it really is member has disappointed before. But I do agree. It's a great spec. Let's Damian in Florida Damian how you doing man I still record on the eve Yar, man. The. Well, you stumped the chump man Email. I don't know that one six six his for treks tricks is for kids. I don't know. Let's go to Dame Eleanor grave. Grave. Apart from overcoming the fool of Corey double throwing arkie I'm doing well. How you been? Well, I'm trying to get over this thing of alshon Jeffery visited elementary school in Philadelphia who still terrific, and I'm so here for state, what's up, what's in your mind. Jim I stack today when that you really dressed at one market Dublin headquartered bed product and PT gay. It's a total winner and BT stock is up free. I say would start being bought and here it goes in. Dave, I want to be the first right now you and I'll ever gonna wish Regina Gilbert Abusir happy birthday 'cause we're gonna be all birthday is. And I know the Senate, otherwise if we were opened for trading. That's Jennifer know-how, Jennifer. Hey, Tim, Jen. Your life on to do with the autumn down. Thirty percent of all position. It's missed three of the four quarters and it Newport's February seven. Yeah. You know that was his situation. It had a great CEO. And after we just can't go there. Let it rally little then Ron sorry. I mean, it was just to our company, but I I'm not in birth getting. Let's cut Kristen California. Please chris. Road. You're doing. Oh, well, I guess how are you? Calling from those California located investment in county. What's up? Hey, so after the more contempt December two thousand eighteen took the opportunity reposition some of my holdings in by basically traded by your own plot stock in Kiev. Collectively were today that all right? Well, there's Hansel stocks. But the winning particular I'm ball and ask you about. Yeah. It's called the GW pharmaceutics via form. I mean, I look I gotta tell you. I thought that was all the we will cannabis fluent around that these guys would not be recognized. But the stock is coming back member. They are the ones that Dr skipper spot is the poor uniform amount of cannabis and that is not devil the cannabis companies. So I can understand why that stop you go hard here. Let's go to Ross in Virginia. Ross. Hey, Jim, we love your show, my wife, and I are both the best is in the market. We love your show most we appreciate what you do for folks. Like us, you're put money to work. So thank you. The big eagles fans Gobert so Okany as a kid as a kid growing up in Michigan. I as Chemical Bank and trust now chemical thank for tell me Jim today. So plus my invested in chemical thing. I don't know. I gotta do work. Sorry, be stumping ago, the facts of the banks have been so painful, I can't just say. Yeah. Your point. I can't. I mean, I I was struck. And I gotta take keeping scam. Two percent of what what was okay. I mean, that's not what I wanted to see. Let's go to Anthony New York. Anthony, they recalled slowly through two guys. I just talked to couple from California. They really got the junior. What's going on? 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66: Stage 1 | Beccles  Stowmarket | Women's Tour 2019

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66: Stage 1 | Beccles Stowmarket | Women's Tour 2019

"You're listening to the cycling podcast Femina an association with Reifer the fastest clothing in the world tour, the home of cycling with character ride and watch with rougher in twenty nine thousand nine estate partner, ES education, I and canyon shrimp. You're listening to the cycling podcast feminine brought to you by Skoda dedicated to closing the gender gap in cycling, one race one scientist time. This is our time. Today. We're in star market. Limited gavitt increases. One zero t to the front one more bright job, Abby. No. Switch. Come on. Less than ten K Audi may come on less than ten Kate. Come on. Come on you. This does years at trading all those years of recreation. Come on. This is it Dr draw Dr dig dig dig, come on. Advances for right in eighty five. Chase your license finish IB might really good job. Very, very proud of yourself tonight. Great job, come on. Goes behind this Justice doll. We're here to rights, let's show. Everyone we're here to rice come on. Well, ruse Manley. What would we played in with their oh, well, that was of my day in the droops car. I mean there wasn't much to say for most of the stage, but then I'd be made Parkinson made an amazing solo attack, and Vanni was just going for it, giving the extra warts shouting, lots of motivational things some kind of swear things if and but actually she couldn't hear them. So did you find it inspiring? I did. Yeah and Graham hood, who was in the car also said getting by dying. He said, give me a bite right now. I will go win this state. You know, it was giving you know, like you know, it should have given her. This is hard too much. Extra. We should play that clip. Char sells every morning here do like a Mr. motivator type stroke. I heard quite well, if inspired him then. Shimura am with rose roundly on Orla Shinui. This is the first of our nightly daily podcast from the women's tour stage one today. Where are we Orla? We are in still market, which is in East Anglia level market time, we started in the market today in Beccles, which was be utilized place. It was like a living museum to English Quinton us and Iran's to market where the race finish way. Here's all but dried up, and I think the weather played a part today in the races quite breezy and wet and quite long stage of it wasn't that far. They were not far apart a lulled stage today. So what happened all we're going to do your story of the stage. We are straight sation. Failing the burden of expectation any bulb in my year, giving me encouragement because we'll we decided we were going to deal few cultural or geographical themes, didn't we? And so I was trying to think of high to him, the story, the state should enjoy Milton used to make regular visits here. Did you both know in your Wikipedia research, pulling a face, I did? Because it was John John, Milton on the, the wall of the weatherspoon's that we were briefly it. And then six and came here, down off point bedfellows. John Milton and weather's all reading. Noise here haven't, we have is a bit laughter cutting through in the weather. Yeah. Quite frankly, we only want our own fun. But anyway, yes, I was actually going to base it, Ron John Milton and his famous poem paradise lost, and which tells the story of Adam and eve, essentially, so I was waiting for pandimonium or some sort of redemption, in the race, I was going to mistakenly neom monon Lloyd, mum on one of Satan's followers, but we didn't see her very much in the race. And I thought it was unfair as well. It's very nice. On also the poem follows the epic tradition of starting in medias race or the midst of the race of the background then coming later. But if I did that there wasn't much of a background there wasn't much at the start of the race. I thought sold that sold Milton sorry, John Milton and I went for John Pagel instead because he lived near here and there's a jaune pay sort of arts and culture center nearby his. Peel early on. I didn't want to correct. Ronnie on John Peter center. We're in the mix. Mix Joan peel centers nearby think, but we did have a guy from the John peel center, playing amazing acoustic music earlier. Mrs peel. Bill pay. What why do you say? Don't peo- is high. I would say P A, L E like if you hadn't had enough sun. Peo- peyot. Yeah. Say okay whereas if you peel, an orange appeal it, you don't pay L it because that would be like, impel it. Oh, the vagaries of our accents. Any each other talking about time is, basically before we go. But maybe peel was J radio DJ principally started off in radio Carolina's. Not what it was called. The is old enough. What was your favorite genre that John peel championed, Richard? What do you think in the end? Smith. So that kind of stuff he loved all rose got to be a connoisseur for dub reggae say, yeah. You look at me think found there's a reggae dub gal. Anyway, we ain't talkin by dub. We took it about the women's to gave you a bit of a cold because I've thrown it in some Joel paid song. References see. Hi. Manny you can find. Right. Well as already said it was fairly on. What? Sorry, start the story of the stage roundabout fashion. Yeah. Okay, we've given a cultural background to where we are. But for the stage itself fairly uneventful for the first part of the reassume. No one, okay? In the UK the heavens opened shortly after the stuff back. Oh this morning. Not the nicest of days in the road, as you said. Richard didn't stop the good vibrations along the route site though, we had the usual fantastic crowds school children lining the roads with flags, teenage kicks and older fans alike. I just love that by modern racing in the U K. It's become quite common people hasn't it to have just this atmosphere. That spectators coming people know, I'm calling itchy people, quite Komen. Yes, you do. Done anyway. No matter what the weather, the fans turn out here and all of that. It's great to see again today. No a happy day of happy cycling, though, for, on a travec of Ali Cipollini Shida, crash fairly early on didn't finish the stage who are first, abandoning the first intermediate sprint went to last year's winner corn. Rivera of sun Webster, quite a groovy feeling for her to know she's coming into form and it matters. Again, shaded Gutierrez reas of movie star in seconds under varies young team. It in third Suzanne. Anderson. The sun web writers thick is th-it's and the second sprint with Rivera Anderson ugly, Kirkman, taking the points there then Christine, Mazaris shoot. She had plenty of mountain energy taking the first set of Queen of the mountains maximum points. And we spent much of the first one hundred and thirty five kilometers, no last with the bunch mostly together battling through that Rian, then with twenty two kilometers to go out of this was darkness emerged. Abby may Parkinson with our first attack off the front the first time with twenty kilometers to go says a lot. And the jobs writer built up a lead of forty one stage. And she took the second of the munches points over Mazaris again, Parkinson did get across the finish line first, but only on the races. First time over the finish in still market are lone wanderer with a still decent lead taking the third intermediate sprint over Mariana voice, and Gutierrez Ruas, again of movie star. She was call it before the line, though, awarded the competivity award for her brass neck, move, quite rightly, so I would say, maybe but of whiskey in the jar for their team. DSP Varney tonight. I think you might be celebrating that one we did have a bunch sprint for the finish in the end. They say love is the drug, but winning is a drug for Jillian Dora. She got her second opening boy, high on life. Yeah, it's got a loss for life, that guard took her second opening win in a row at the two Britain, East Anglia. Once again, spooky, Amy PJ's, herbals elements team at finished in second. Lisa Brenner of. W. N T third. So the evening the jerseys. Goatee Corrina, VERA of San ramp. He takes this prince jersey Queen of the mountains. Christine, mergers of bulls Dolman points jersey to Jillian Dora, as well as the green jersey for the overall leader best, British writers, Eleanor Dickenson tonight of drops and the best team is bull. So looking at the end of stage one but who will have what when Saturday comes dots, a question on that is your stage story of the stage. 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Because every time I said, one, I could hear the smile in my voice, it was like being released leaky here. Joe wing. Every time. Everytime. Everytime. Morla winks them up. You go to name the song tight this as well. And Email us contact at the cycling podcast Carmen, if several you get it, right. We'll pick a winner. I the hats. I'll be impressive. Anyone gets all of those actually, I think snuck in one. You know, some of the McQuay difficult, I was some of them, I wouldn't know that they were songs had a peaky look of your showed us, I'm not going to be entering the competition today. Or Manley London. Well, listen today stage Yolene door was the winner. Amy pizzas. Second one two for bulls. Domes Lisa Brenner, third. And that was good points for former winner here. But I think fool marts Abby may Parkinson today for taking it on because we were able to watch the race which is a unique challenge of covering this race. Where we're talking about the stage before we've seen it. We'll watch the highlights tonight. And there wasn't an awful lot happening there one aspect or one factor in that was that was the length of the stage, another certainly the weather and also the length of the race as well at six days, that is anything else is talking to bowl before the stage today, and I said, you know, are you guys relishing they, they difficulty of this year's race, given that it has been bells as toughest ever its longest ever. And he said he had two point night, the guys last night, that last year, for example, like we said in the previous episode. There was an awful lot of talk about the final stage being so difficult. And in the end it wasn't anyone ears difficult as people that expected? And so, I think he was trying to encourage exactly what we saw today, which was go on the attack. Don't be afraid. Don't be saving yourself for the perceived stages to come because if no idea what they're going to be like, and they may not be reaced is difficult lay as hard as, as you might fear. And that would be the only concern, I guess. With this race to come that, that would be that neutralization of the racing would be a factor buff to skip ahead. It's why think tomorrow's age is going to be really exciting and it's a good that they've broken it up like that. Yeah. I mean it was really a dream day for drops actually being in the in the raising. It was upstate Jayme. But no. But both actually has a piece of paper on his lap, which says objectives in big black letters. And then it says, like one two, three, one of them was like top ten Elliott concern, which, you know didn't quite get almost go that she finished. Number two was like the best British jersey of the back of Ellie doing well in the final sprint photo was being attacking getting competivity. So really tick tick tick for for him. So they did incredibly, well, I think it's just a, a great sign to see drops have taken that kind of attacking which, I don't think we kind of associate with that much. But I saw into of California they were attacking in the tour and good. And they were attacking and was saying that Abby may Parkinson felt a bit like should missed out in the turing into because people marking her a bit more inch ever. She was trying to attack make a break. So she'll be as you wish she was absolutely delighted to have made a solo attack and held on for so long and just built up quite a decent lead. Right. The end and just been out to be showing us off on those the British Prime rights washer, we hear from me partisan and Elliott concern who is twelve on the stage. Abby making up the capacity tries. How was it out there? But the cars incredible like all the kids from the schools are good like chairin on that really made me think the. No one seemed to have got away into you did. And it was very late on in the state. You know what does that say about the siege in, in total? Yeah. I mean it was supporting stage. It was one hundred sixty K K of neutralist wiles. It was a super long day. So. Yeah, it was pre steady the first hundred K and then flow to talk ten I saw a just counted and managed to get away so, yeah, that was really good. And you putting that Lido more more more get the, the did you think you're gonna get to the finish? Your. I had my doubts like it was always going to be a sprint finish. So I knew the lead out trains become in coming in. Oh, yeah. I wanted to say. Keep key on. Yeah. This must be one of the best days that we've been stores. It, it was such a fun day out just coming through the finish line with one months ago and everyone shave. My name was per. Yeah, I love by. It was. Yeah. I really I think, anyhow dot must be your target for the day. And you succeeded, what is that, as a feeling, wouldn't really say it was obviously, every fresh ride wants to be in the best fish rider jersey, but I never ever started the thing can all be in the best ratio has it does so many good British writers, so. Yeah, it was stick a talk ten that got me. Yeah. The best fraiche ride, and how is that to also be on the podium, when Abby may was up there competivity as well? It was so good. It's such a good. It was such an inspiring rod I in the last twenty eight here and it was you just you want to do well, because yeah. Did amazing see you want to do well in the bucket. And the for the state's tomorrow is a weird one kind of like a crit you'll do. Well, I'm just to keep the jersey for then not teach your. Yeah. To hang onto jersey, but it would be nice to just get round syfy. I think could be cottage tomorrow. I'll be made Parkinson Elliott Dickinson Elliott inside. She a lost of the first group Lizzy Diagne finish the place by number four seconds. There was a little split there. I'm not sure that will be significant. Although mine evolves. Interestingly was in the first split. She was fifth on the stage and, and those four seconds for her may be important as the week goes on. Who knows am? I mean, it's easy to sit on the so far sitting in the car and wonder why there aren't any breakaways why nobody even seems to be trying to form a break and, you know, why not be made parking somewhere away. Nobody went with her on it's easy to, to sit and criticize that. But you do wonder I mean, we wanted this Jing the JIRA as well in certain stages. Why teams with clear objectives in the race weren't at least trying to put themselves out there? You know there's a HAMAs television program on tonight. They're going to struggle for highly. Lights? And if you if there had been a break away, even if at being a few kilometers a few rise, they would have ended up on the tally there, there are quite a few teams here who have strong GM Bishen Nazi only thing you can really say. I mean for alvie made to go away, on her own isn't necessarily a threat for any of the writers or any of the other teams really, if it was a stronger breakaway don't mean anything on abbey may, but if it was stronger in numbers than it would have been more of a danger. But it makes you think that with the caliber writers here, we've so many former winners here, it could Welby wide open. And we've seen this reaced one early in years, gone by last year. For example, when Cassini Duma one a few years ago, as well on the gas is what's many rivals, unless it's your team you know you wanted to try to avoid that and keep that race of the risk for as long as possible. So it only suggests to me really that hopefully there are few teams with strong ambitions, and also everybody's talking about this race being a recipe haves and you've got the first three. Ages and the hard in terms of mountainous, second three stages. So maybe there's a little bit of cards being played close to the chest. But I didn't know about that. Because also the g c Cam be very one bump, very narrow margins here, and the intermediate sprints are really key for that because you get bonus seconds every intermediate sprint. And we saw that today because they were quite tightly contested and teams on what really were trying to dominate those. But you'd think that breakway would be even more vital stage when there was three intermediate sprints. So that's like you get nine seconds of nice extracur-, even get more than that you plenty of seconds. If you wanted to kind of give a little either getting early jersey or do something on the first aid. So you can give your team a little bit bit more exposure. And there was to Queen of the mountains. And so in the end when Abby may win. Attacked. She ended up getting cwm pointed up getting into media sprint points. On Saturday thing, if people are looking at where they want to become Saturday stage, one oversea Oviously on our one lost on seconds or at least they can be. But if you're if you're if you've got your eye on the overall by the end of the week, then avoiding losing time is almost as important as gaining time isn't. No, that's true. But I think I mean current VERA said that she was that is why she was up and competing for those intermediate sprints because she knew that. I mean, we saw at the toward a Yorkshire. Didn't we lost you in Donnie rose made it onto the podium because of how she was performing at the intermediate sprints? Not how. That was last year. Wasn't it? She was in the podium. To Yorkshire though, as well and then the women's tour as well. Yeah. Had that eme temple crafts shape with couple of days ago. But then that kinda shows how key those could have been oversee. They, you know. Sunwest played played it out that way. But none of the other teams seem to be interested, but, you know, it could be it could be one of those seconds. Well, the winners on the day where both domains and they've come with a strong with their, you know, their, their leader, Vander Bragan with very rounded team of the sprinters, you'll endure Amy pizzas. I'm did did Erickson who wanna sees? She has very good sprinters. Well, so they seem well equipped to challenge for stages when be spicy, the Derek there tomorrow. And they've also got some strong TC writers as well including Christie Madras, who is Luxembourg champion and clean the mountains in this race night. Let's hear from Christine measures and then Lizzie Deichmann a monkey a monkey there are there today, but taught me through the finale solvency worksite. Well. And then you guys yeah. Early are quite perfect. Also, timing was really good to time. There was a soda writer alone, which is pretty easy to control. When you are big Paladino Vinci's easier when you have more than being learned. Yeah, we started with five K to go to the GP, and deliver to Jillian perfect. The name USA finished second. So yeah, it's a good thing for the for the two I'll be may parks quite a big lead. At one point where you where you worry the toll about her possibly staying away. Or did you feel it was all under control? No, it was on the control. She had him in it, and it was still ten K to go and she was loan. I mean, if it would have been a group for three or four, we should have been worried. Lonely writers extra pretty easy to control. Especially on these roads, vets like appellate on this has really been over the vantage, but yeah, it's too in the to win like this the first day and it's a good saw to, to you brought a lot of fast strong fast writers with you find strong faster rollout means, but is that is the aim here to, to try and win as many seats as possible. Is that what you're, you're planning to do here? You will see day by day, and if that works and then the whole to it's going gonna work. I mean, the last days are pretty hot. So we have to see how we gonna feel today. How DiPoto developing with tiredness by the end of the week today? I we will see day by day, and yeah. We have strong push sprinters, like Jillian and normally, and we have a little bit around us like Amien me. And I mean all Caros going back from training Chem today, they will love home. They are pretty good. So we haven't have a bit costs. Everything. Are you are you the, the, the leader of the team or is that something that's been discussed? I think gee see, we'll have to see after four and then and then plan around, it's pretty hard to control this race like that. It's pretty unpredictable. And it's hard to come river GT plan from the beginning on so day by day. Has just one of these days, you help too much time to think about how much nicer it'd be on the safe. It was just long and it was inevitably going to be a sprint to kind of one of them. Boring long days. Everyone's coming back with mud splattered all over their faces. It looks like the weather very kind. There was racial. I mean is fairly mild? Actually just once you through it was ready to colts. I, I went back to the car, and I was wearing t rain Ducasse's points, say that says a lot, what was your game plan for today, then just to get through the race safely? Like we don't ever sprinter here. So actually, we wanted kind of rivals, like Mariana, who's a g c come tend to get points seconds in sprints. And so should breakaway when great just kinda save ourselves Rudy on TV sales for wall, then what's the overall invasion? What's your personal goal this week to be honest? I'm having arrest after this, so it's kinda just like a consolidation of the first block. And just that race as just keep on denies that really. Hi, I'm Elliott. I'm a cyclist. I race all kinds of bikes mountain bike marathon, get Chris road races downhill enduro, too. I write about journalist. I'm a blogger video maker cycling coach and guide, I suppose Skoda's campaign to close the gender gap in cycling. This is our time. I'd like see more women riding bikes, mainly because I want move into ride with, and I want more women racing because the more women at racist, the more fun is for everyone, but also kind of feel like I get to enjoy this really, really cool thing, and all the women aren't experiencing a night, I think they should be missing out. So I'll do anything I can to get more women involved. I mean, every time I go to race me and my mates all he's trying to recruit more female races. But yeah I mean not just for racing though. I just think women should be riding bikes for. It's not a while pushing yourself it can just be just for recreation as well. Thank you very much indeed, to Skoda for support thing, cycling podcast Femina, again, they did last year and give a lovely Carlos year and they've given us a lovely car again this different car. What do you think of color? It's great. The usual unusual, but quite grown Amee three. Find myself embarrassingly cliche. 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It's only when toll picked us up that he informed us that he was he was messing us from London bridge over tar bridge, he hadn't even left London. Southland. The scuba sprouted wings. I don't think he would ever made on, but you would just enjoying yourself, yet, putting the good Skoda's. Cards. We don't mind being stuck in traffic is come this far? No longer this. We'd love to know. Nighted phoolan. I'm like. With with Bob volume. It's an Oktay via VRS very sporty. It's really very nice car. Thanks to school, though. We're going to do thing during this women's tour are at the end of it. We're gonna do a press conference, which we do the other grandmothers. Please leave a voice memo on walks up on the number plus four four seven nine seven one three three eight two five, that's plus four four seven nine seven one three three eight to five. Leave us a message don't for the number but leaves a message on wheel no-one on sir, and we will we'll deal with those questions towards the end of the race. Looking forward to now I know. So we're going to do that. The one thing that caught my eye. When we got the official start she this morning was the big LA had only four riders in the race. Couple of blind spots in their team, which was unusual. They've got team in Brittany competing there and headed by Cecilia blood, vague four writers here, only instead of six which oversee unusual. So I thought there must be through their search of their sports the right to Thomas companion. Now. Thomas companion has been in the news as well over recent months. Well over the winter really when a story was published in a docks newspaper, alleging some inappropriate behavior will bullying fat shaming and intimidating writers, several writers spoke against his management of the team that they'd be in, in years past, including eatery slop and Dell and Carmen, small. I'm so I went to speak some primarily, first of all by the absence of a fool team. Here but also asked him about some of those allegations as well. So you've got. Yeah, you're right writers here out of team of his birthday. What was the reason for not bringing food team here? The reasons very simple out of twelve writers, we have six, Reuters injured at the moment last one was Sophie was planned to be reserved writer, and she broke her collarbone yesterday, and you call it also crash in the last stage because of motorbike went into the bunch and Elise Chebbi was planned for this race was right. A number five she was called unexpected to, to university to make a final exam. Dr. Degree. So we couldn't couldn't get her. So unfortunately we have only four riders here. I, I know the race in Britain is kinda revived race was a race that appealed to the light Cecilie. Just because of the, the course, maybe Sutera by her. No say the reason why Cecilia was there was simply the the the date of the race. You can see most of the Jiro contender writers are not here and Cilla belongs to a possible podium contender, and they need to do. They need to go to attitude so we, we finished that race. And we flew into to the mountains, and she's already, they're preparing for the euro. I mean we've been asking him. But is that do you think the claiming of the researchers incompatible for somebody who's wanting to go to the Jiro? Yes. Yes, we can see beautiful racist like this race. Or also play his is suffering because the good writers are not showing up because they're in world championship preparation. The toot he and this case, most of these contenders line attitude for the Jiro. It's true. It's, it's, it's, it's a problem for practice reducing the number of races, and specifically, preparing for, for this does events. And that means that all the competitors of those writers need to do more or less the same. And this is why more and more top top writers are on not here. It's, it's, it's, it's a bit of a problem, I would say cannot here, but from the stories around you in the team over the winter, the you know there were some allegations made it but what's going on in the team? I mean the team did respond to that. But what, what's your response to, to some of the things that were said? Yeah. I mean, there was only one opinion heard so far, no journalists spoke with me about it. I when when news contacted me I offered them to open up the records because it's a very old case from two thousand fifteen review by the UCI. By four inspectors over period of four months, and there, they closed the case in the way that they say it's not nothing. We can we can find against him. So he did everything right to say. Now, the rules were different at that time, I think it's pretty cheap. No, because the rules are the rules. If you go to court, the existing rules are in force. And more. I can't say we are here we are since for years. I'm eighteen years T Mona. I think we have produced of success people call me a hot spot director. I'm not hard to support his heart so people need to exp- except the sport. And if they come for something they have to stand for something and disgusted many times before the entered the team. And sometimes they pretend to be ready for something like this for challenge, like coming to our team goes through this development. And then during the season day they cannot make it, and then we have open talks, and some are released because they simply don't have the quality. And if they feel that they have to answer in a way that they say he did this he that which is still unproven. I think that's a very, very easy way and it's not the correct way what I can say is we are running the strategic. We are continuing to run this project and at the end of the day. The best answers always success were there. Questions are spy your sponsors. You know, was an uncomfortable time for you. Absolutely not. Because the whole case, the ethics commission looked included. It was a it was a serious case. And when the case was closed the documents were presented to the sponsors. So the sponsors where where line, of course, when that came up three years later, it is just an old story cooped, again, they asked me what is going on? And I said, it's, it's the case that have presented to you and then they closed it for them. It was clear. It was a twenty four hour activity for a lot of clicks, I'm happy for all these online platforms. But I have to run their team. This is how I see it. Thomas companion there. I mean, I didn't have unfortunately are to hand when I spoke to because the recovery things he said, they're the didn't really ring true in terms of the, the number of writers who who comply. Land. And it's worth saying that when this article was published other writers have been on the team that back it up, including the van Velzen who was there for one year. And they did go back a few years twenty fifteen as he said, am, but yeah, I mean he came up this line of, but it being a hard sport. He's not hard. It's a hard sport. But I mean, certainly, you're slopping though, somebody Univer. Well, don't you Orleans, she runs a cyclist alliance and in that role there really campaigning to improve conditions for women cyclists, very aware of the of the difficulties within the pallet, on, as you say it wasn't just combining said that, that it was a testament one writer, but it was it was four he recruited in at one Arctic on the volts contest slapping, smaller, gee, said VERA, coda and ours, Pfizer. And I would just say that I mean, I didn't know heiress incredibly, well, but I've gotten to know our beds, at least since I moved to the Netherlands, and she's far from what I would say. Someone who's not hard. You know, I had a conversation with her by exactly what it is that makes ducks writer sue good. And she thinks it is because they are tougher that they're mentally tougher than a lot of the other writers because it's a very direct Pete. They're evade direct people. There used to take criticism, they're used to giving out criticism. None of it is personal not just the way the operation. So I certainly don't think that she would be someone who would be some sort of a what is it that Piers Morgan Kohl's? Everyone. Like, yeah, she's not exactly snowflake issue. I mean. But everyone's got their side to the story. And you can only take everybody signed to the story. I mean there are one or two other people who've committed being nut team didn't want to be drawn into moving passengers on that team for several years. Someone else who worked for him today, who said that there were two sides to every story, but he did say some other stuff that was interesting as well by this race. And by the five Cecilia blood has opted, not to right here and following on five lewiston and uninventive Bragan who are not here as well. And that approach last year, worked very well, especially if I'm missing this race going to Alta chewed and then going to Jerusalem really cleaning up. Am I wonder you know, this is falling into the same habit as the man of, of racing fewer times. And it's a problem women's like because there isn't the same depth so big races like this, if they are deprived of the big stars, we talked about this, and the previous episode last week can leave a glaring absence. You know in, in the lineup. Mean current Rivera said that on in her interview, the was it lost. That listen to branded very well of coming here and then going to juror Rosa. So I mean, it's kind of different approaches for different riders. And it depends whether priorities arm in the Joe. Rosa is just a mammoth race. It's incredibly climb me. Those in his is ten days and I suppose if you are a pure climbing his way you would go, but if you're anywhere. We're actually movement who immensely in order to finish second year road. Very, very well, but she's come here this year. I think there's an element. I think this is meant men's likely to of herd mentality. And I think kind of companion hinted at that the, you know, they're watching, what other writers are doing to prepare for the kind of copying that approach, and it's not an econ. It's hard. You can't conducting spannis you don't actually know which is the best approach because you only know what the result is in then. But you don't know what it would have been had. They redden taking a different. Hi differently would today have been reaced if those writers hot been there, I don't think any differently, so their presence will make a difference. Maybe in, they Hillier stages, but I can't see that today would be any different. We didn't have a categorized climb into a hundred and twenty four kilometers end. I mean not to me suggested it's a route that decided high today was ridden more than anything else. I mean, when we look at stage three for example, the polish stage you've got a categorized climb to categorize climbs right at the start. Hopefully, my theory will be proven on. We'll see lots of attacks from the off. But I a Porsche times gentle refined tax Austria. Likes go cash navy mom, and she is absolutely. The pinnacle of an exciting ride who animates raised to attacks and you can climb really well, so I don't think you go to bit of an obsession with unav- under bregman on the mainframe. Flu. Have they have very much copied while the man do in terms of going to altitude and doing a lot more training as opposed to raise saying? But I think it's good that so far K Cecil. He's done at night as well. But she she was racing, not just the the altitude bit. I think it's good that that hasn't happened as yet because you don't have the same strength in depth as the man's peleton. But yeah, I don't I again, don't think the racist any the poorer on, on a on an obvious level for not having Vanderberg and in here because we've enough, we've enough top-quality writers. And as you say, ruse attacking writers, who, hopefully when, when the Reese and the re allies will completely blow, the race apart, all Suber. Hi, I'm Anna Christian from team drugs. And the women's told be very British. This is my time I've ever been in the race. And what it, it was pretty hard already. But I think it's good that, that kind of pushing on China, make it. Yeah, a bit harder every year in seventh level. So I'm quite excited. Hi. ST Momon Paseo and the woman's to a will be the most exciting race of the year. Maureen ham Lonnie from from drops sport stretch on this race. I think the women's tool will be the best race in the world of game. I think there's a lot being harder. And I did sense, genuine apprehension from some of the goes, and like any stage race. We got take one stage at time. Yeah. Who was expecting unexpected. So I think the only thing I would say is it's going to be the most professionally run race in the world. And I'm last year's over energy, women's tour winning the women's tour, this year will be really hard. It's funny because it's not so many spinners here. I think very many pure spooners. I think they're really banking it to be a pretty hard race. But I think in my place in my favorite harder as I like to show the bigger sprinter. So I think it works caver and I just have to keep surviving. My name is Davy wondering, I'm from Hobart, I think, do almost doer is going to be a real really hard. I'm looking for too difficult. If the race it's also they're very long stages. Hannah vows from sham racing team. The women's toll will be aggressive. I'm Marie on the voice racing for CC live and the women's through our will be one stuff exciting battle. I think it's interesting that the raises one day longer and harder than ever. But yeah, the ride is always make race. So it doesn't really matter how tough it is. It will be tough. Anyway. Tiffany, Cromwell Kenitra racing to will be exciting challenging hod victorious. It's always challenge the peleton more and more wins to have definitely ever you tried to step it up. Stotka much less challenging on guess. Mates. You make it more difficult. So then everyone wants to bring a game and similar support behind it so much the organization's top notch. So I think it's great unite. It's definitely for a lotta goes daunting. I doubt. But at the same time, we want to pressure spoilt, we want people to be sure, who's the best riders out this, or bring it on. Cycling podcast femi- now is supported by science in sport. Science in sport few why science. Thank you very much indeed, to science sport for supporting the cycling podcast Femina you can get twenty five percent off. Ilias signs of sport. Science and sport dot com with the code SIS, P twenty-five. That's SIS CP twenty-five at science and sport dot com. And before that we heard a little montage of voices from the star this morning and Beccles for some of the writers looking ahead to the week's racing and the one or two of them seeing what they thought of the course and, and this game of two halves that we've got where there are three difficult stages towards end what you to looking forward to most with you say, I'm going to go for stage, two the stage I've got lots things that I'm looking forward to, but I like to live in the moment, that's as close to the moment as I can look forward to. Because it's something different in the women's to your and because we will see a real difference. I think in the writers, who've done lots of credits crass raising and those who haven't, and unfortunately because we won't to see many different writers up there as possible for as long as possible. I think it's a stage that will massively sit Coren Rivera over most of the other contenders and she's something like seventy two isn't it national titles to her name, including credits and all the rest of it. So I'm excited to see how that's going to be raised. And that's partly sorry for any the right is listening, because the writers themselves are prohibitive about it. And that always Piques my interest. I think when they're a bit nervous. I think ooh, what will this unfold is? So states is what I'm looking forward to. It's funny. Isn't it that because that's the prize me as well, because I've been spoke to Rivera this morning, then she was at prints of about. She I think probably people are like playing Jones's of winning it. So he's really trying to be a bit more like it's not exactly like an American crit. And then when I say to riders. Oh, it's a bit like you know during the tour series credits. They do round the u k I mean, the roads will be similar, and then they're trying to play that it's not really like that is so you'll be interesting to see what the results, we do have a few tax and we have a bit of action and it's not just lots of laps of the track. But yeah we'll we'll see in the day. But at least we get to see it. I'm going to writing in the morning as well. Yeah, how many proper Recci? Yeah. How many laps will, I think we can go for a nice little bite rise in the morning because it's a lay starts more as well? The question. You can give us back. We'll just sit on on. Yes new the plan to bring bike. So, yeah, we'll have to you can run run of the same speed is mostly forward to Thursday's first hilltop finish. It's not these aren't they all we're talking about. But Burton, DASA country part. There's a little claim up to the finish. And it's quite a lump e finale to the stage of the loss. Twenty thirty minutes is pretty hilly, which could be with the two stages still to come and keeping opportunity for somebody Willoughby writers, who are holding back and waiting for the supposedly decisive next day, in particular, am Friday stages. Is particularly hard, but not one is, is an opportunity for somebody thing last year. Remember we saw along four Guinean Cecilia booed vague try and spring, a surprise on the stage into lemming ten spa. Wasn't it? Think it wasn't spot, and it was quite lumping, quite challenging, and they really the bunch under lot pressure. It came back. And then, but this hilltop finish that could be quite good little stage for somebody to, to have a goat, ammos, put my one down to bet because you made it seem like the one that I'm gonna pick as a radio this choice, and it is, but that is stage five. I'm just I'm just hesitating looking a lot of consonants and not many vowel. I say. Hundred plundering dote while it, I'm on the fan. To tell Condron. Well to pull throws. Oh, my okay. I've lost it. The first well stay it was. That is just completely. Okay. Because is they've got to massive category, one climbs there and the EPA climb, which is the last climb, which one. Twenty one loss like fifteen kilometers, very end. And that's going average gradient of nine percent. So I think if there's, you know, the ones the one climb that's going to be a leg leg-breaker will be that one and I like breaking legs. What can I say? It's why we love cycling next week and watch other people Basting themselves while we try to stay dry and warm. Absolutely. We'll look forward to, and we'll be back every night with podcast and yet tomorrow from graves where we must drive to now. Let's, let's go. Oh, yeah, thanks for mimicking piano. Kind of. So I did guitar. Yeah. This is why I thought we were in the John peel center, John vs, because when we can dine here already have our lunch for sitting in this sort of the night-clothes cafe, but there was a guy playing acoustic guitar in the corner. And it was beautiful and his name's altern Walberg. And he was from the joint pain center. We got challenge the guys from the jumping center, Rony was telling us a bites sort of upcoming concerts and whatnot. And they have the wedding present play over on Friday. John paints favorite. Yeah, they're playing there anyways. So it sounds like grit. Repertoire of concerts coming up, but ultimately signed, it, absolutely beautiful, and he's got an album. I'd at the moment called foot graphs and memories. And I went to for an held my food aloft next to the speakers, just we could share in the beauty of the music with all of you. We're gonna play the wedding present all the way all the way to our thanks to well that, and while we've been recording lineup Bernie has sent me a little music suggestion as well Dolly Parton, Julie done any of the stage winner. But this. Oh.

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Cobras & Fire: Nirvana - Nevermind - 30 Years Later with Danny Goldberg

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Cobras & Fire: Nirvana - Nevermind - 30 Years Later with Danny Goldberg

"Hey this is danny goldberg author of serving servant remembering kurt cobain and you're listening to whatever never mind welcome to the program then danny goldberg any. I'm not sure we're kind of titled to give you. You're an author. You've been pretty much a big shot at in record labels all across the the basically the spectrum of of jobs i guess you band management how would you What title would you give yourself. Well you know. I've i've been around a long time. So my business cards. Shane strike right now. I have a small management company called gold village. I represents the rural the water boys among others bentley and wayne rate and and i've been writing a lot the last several years i. I've written several books in the last five years. The most recent one is serving the servant remembering kurt cobain stimulated. You're reaching out to me. And i have one coming out of november called the bloody crossroads twenty twenty art entertainment and resistance to trump. Oh my gosh give me what. Give me a little tease on what that's going to be about. Well i just try the bulk of the book documents the year. Twenty twenty from the sort of january first through the basically the inauguration and just e pretty granular detail about the engagement of a wide variety of massive entertainers from taylor swift to robert deniro from cardi cardi b. to jane fonda of both music film activists artists as well as people who aren't itself had a political by or subtexts to a weather was a mini series like the plan against america. Hbo or a song. or something. like that and i just felt it was a time of unprecedented activism by artis in part because the president had initially become famous on a reality tv show in part because some of the issues were so emotional and other things like that. So it's it's just my look at basically the election through the prism of entertainment well That sounds fascinating. Look forward to that. You said that's coming out in november november. Second it'll it'll be out. I spoke to you know a lot of research. I also spoke to bruce springsteen john legend and you're the guy that produces billions and you know just different. Different are actors directors. You know and singers chuck the you know just different people to to get other voices in there. Besides you know my on research anyway. It's kind of you to let me Plug it this way. No out absolutely sounds fascinating. Know i like before we get into today's topic. Why don't you take me back a little bit and give us just a little bit of background. On how how you got into music in the first place as far as the industry and like what were you. What were your early roles in. How did you send a of the letter. Well i I was very much a child of the late sixties. I graduated from high school in nineteen sixty seven and although i enrolled in college of the university of california berkeley i dropped out pretty quickly got in trouble and by the time you know by the fall of one thousand nine hundred sixty eight. I just turned eighteen. I just needed a job. I ended up through in a time getting a clerical job at billboard. Which i didn't know at the time what billboard was. I liked it. It said magazine and it was it. It was just one of the first job interviews i dated. I discovered that it was trait. That there was this thing called a trade magazine that there was a single the music business that the music i love was was part of this business and that there were people on the other side of the office that were actually getting paid to go to concerts and listen to records and write their opinions about them and that seems like like incredible to me especially the idea of getting free records and everything so i nagged him until they let me start writing reviews and my first couple of years was kind of iraq journalist rock critic. I i went from billboards some other trades. I some of s'amuse for rolling stone and so on and I realized after a few years of that that i was more of a and then a critic that what i really like to do is just champion people. I love that. I didn't have sort of the critical posture that made for the really successful music. Journalists and You know ended up being publicist and got lucky. That in in the middle of seventy three the pr company. I was working for got led zeppelin as a client and i was the youngest one there and the guy would long hair. I was picked to be the day to day guy and that really changed my career because to this day spoken estimate led zeppelin the way i get about their gonna but what i meant nirvana they wanna talk fellas episode. I mean it was just a great thing to be associated with them in my in my twenties and then Then when i saw i learn more about the business. I i was very impressed with the power and the role did zeppelin's manager. Peter grant played. So i wanted to be a manager and then in the middle of it i ended up spending a dozen years running record companies but was before and after that i imagine now a manager. I work with their manager. So that's that's a quick rap but that's probably enough right not great A gold mountain records was that your first record label I'm trying to think i mean i. Obviously i worked for swan song records. I the title of vice president example. Okay swan song and then When i left swan song. I started a pr company And out of that pr company. I work with bears ville records which was the label. At the time that bob dylan's former manager grossman to went through warner brothers. The guy ran. It was when i best friends at the time officg. He was dating stevie nicks and we ended up putting together. A label called modern records. That was the first label that i owned part of And that put out the first two stevie nicks solo albums both of which went. Were number one album. So i guess. Modern records was the first label. I really had a piece of pride of work for a couple of both. and then Gold mountain start is a label. It was pretty unsuccessful. I didn't i you know. But i turned it into a management company and the management company became pretty successful in his at the company. Then that you wound up that Working at basically when you got involved with nirvana yeah. Yeah i i started and do i have that right. Well your. you're you've definitely figured out. That name is goldberg. And then i d- in several different companies That gold castle was a A small label. That i started with a friend of mine named julian schlossberg. That's not the management company. I passed hill now goal cat and then we put out. Just had this idea that there were these ageing folk artists like joan baez. Judy comes beautiful. In marion's the mothers who were shunned by all the major label but who are still doing interesting creative work so it never made any money but put out some wonderful records. But the management company was called gold mountain which is another anglicized. Way thing. Goldberg and gold mountain First success In the late eighties was We had belinda carlisle. After go-goes goes broke up her solo to first two solo cycles which were very successful then then bonnie raitt who was in between labels and ended up making a deal for her that that revived your career in the first one. All the big grammy's and then i wanted to figure out how to address this now now. This gets us to the end of the eighty s and there was this new energy in rock and roll. That was called Postmodern by some people or american punk. It wasn't the seventies punk of the romance. Sex pistols sort of punky was inspired by by american mostly west coast. Or it like black flag but also for ghazi and there's dead kennedys and and So i hired a young guy named john silva who today's extremely successful match represents the foo fighters others and together. We signed sonic youth And then sonic youth told us about nirvana so that was gold mountain that was a management company. And we had these older artists like bonnie and the allman brothers and the pop producer. David foster and then we also developed this roster of which nirvana was the jewel. You know But also had the beastie boys and and sonic youth. So that's how they got him into your lab. Did you after working with sonic youth ended you pursue ana or how did they end up. Really you know i am. Management is a funny kind of business. It's a cash business. You you know you don't you don't own the masters to the publishing so you know. I always hated to take on new artists. Not because i didn't like the romance of discovering and developing new artist but because they don't pay anything the first year. So i was and i was known in the office. It just always discouraged noirs but so silva had seen nirvana open to design and he got thurston moore to call me. There's moore's the league guitar player sonic youth and one of the vocalists and he said look. I know you don't like new acts but this is the best band you know we've seen and i completely trust him. I mean they were great artists but also he and his colleague. Kim gordon and others the inside to where they were like just d- curator's of the sort of american punk post modern indie rock world and Tremendous a reputation for discovering talent so based on his Enthusiasm i agree with nirvana. And i think nirvana met with us because they trusted sonic us. Okay thank you. Research role models of had to be ethical creative and still function you know in the marketplace and You know we met them. We had one meeting with them and you know by the next. By the end of the day we were the manager you know. They had done bleach They wanted to switch to a major labeled a they wanted to conventional. You know l. A. kind of a management company. And i think the fact that we also work with you gave them also the the confidence that we were sensitive to the cultural things matter to them and a very quick agreement. Was dave in the band at that point yet. David just joined the band. I think that. I think when we met with the like literally a week or two after he joined. Okay well i. I'm guessing based on your background You know. I got a quick segue just on a personal note. Nineteen sixty eight often gets compared to This last kind of handful of years do you you someone who is there. You know cognitive you know i was born in seventy so D do you see the parallels between kind of the state of this country the last couple of years with a lot of the unrest in the protests there were definitely some parallels and some differences. Certainly the feeling that the country was divided. was was similar there was tremendous division about the war in vietnam particular and people on one side. You know had a hard time dealing with deep blind the other side even if they were like in the same family that kind of thing. So that feeling of there being to america's that kind of polarization is to me. the the biggest similarity now. I have to say in sixty eight and you know for the next several years people like me. Were very much in the minority. Richard nixon was elected by gigantic landslide. In nineteen seventy two elected with sixty percent and democrat even in sixty eight only like forty three percent. You know nixon and george wallace who even ran to the right as a more You know white supremacists candidate. So i think that the that the balance is better today in my opinion at least at least we have a majority of people in the country who agree with us. Those of us who are you know. Not trump is and and So so that's that's the difference but the The the racial tensions unfortunately although things are generally speaking better in terms of the rights of african americans and other people colored and they were fifty years ago the the basic disparity in opportunity. Well the way the criminal justice department traits people. You know many many other issues. I it wasn't just magically solved by the civil rights movement in sixty so there's definitely a link between and some of the writers like james baldwin from the late sixties and artists. Like you'll scott heron their work still resonates fifty years later because of those similarities. There that that's interesting to hear the perspective of somebody from that time Now now i took you on this little tangent the thing that's Sprung into that was that. I'm picturing you as someone who kind of group in that era hearing nirvana. Did you actually enjoy the music. Well i. I was very busy when i first met the band again. We had forty fifty people working in the office. I was trying to make it. i just turned forty. I just had my first kid. And i and my time was very fragmented so i i did it. Initially on a leap of faith because of what thurston said johns enthusiasm and the general buzz but after a period of time i realized i'd never seen them play and i'm a big believer then as now that as much as recordings report you get another level of connection to an artist when you see the live so they were doing while they were while they were rehearsing. The songs that kurt wrote for never mind he wanted to do a gig in la just to try some of them out front of an audience and they open to dinosaur. Junior was the headliner at the A room called the palace that was then having concerts in a light probably held eight or nine hundred people and so i went By myself after you know and was just blown away. When i saw him on stage and the combination of his voice in the intimacy he had with the audience. That sense that everybody was like he was talking individually to people so once i saw them live. I fell head over heels in love with them as an artist. Even though i was forty and you know way older than most of their audience. I could recognize the genius what i saw them live. That's that was the moment But that was a few months after we already managing over the course of doing this one of the things. Because i'm a fan of that whole scene. Not that big of nirvana gotta to be honest with you. Ton of respect for what they did and we'll get into that but But a lot of a lot of the ideas and memories that i had had you know were changed basically through talking to a lot of different people and and the more i heard certain things it just reinforced that and so like my my things that i once thought i no longer thought. And one of those was that you know kirk kind of had this nonchalant like i who cares kind of thing but he was actually quite driven to be successful Would you agree with that. And if so did was that something you could tell early like early on when you sort of working with them. Yeah because he can't that's why they came to us and and to me was because of that ambitious side of him that you know he didn't show everybody That wasn't part of his art but it was part of what made the art successful And it was obvious from the very first meaning that he had very strong ideas about where he wanted the band to go and that was reinforced. Just every other time. I ever spoke to him. I don't think anybody becomes that successful just by accident without a certain level of ambition. And when i wrote the book talk christova celica a lot about it. He said kurt was very intense when it came to his art. He insisted on rehearsing every day. And he you know if you look at his journals. He had all these drawings. From when he was a kid of the magic nirvana as a headliner playing arenas and he had a vision for exactly what nevada became a very successful artists that spoke the international language of mass appeal rock and roll but was rooted in the cultural values and intimacy of of of of american punk and he fused those two things together and created a whole current in in you know in the next chapter of what rock and roll was in the wake of their success obviously have pro jammed in san artists that had been together before maybe but hadn't been successful yet he he he showed the music business writ large globally that there was a younger audience that was sick of the older rock what they called corporate rock and so he he really had that vision he had a lot of angst and his lights a lot of pain but when it came to his art which included the entire career of nevada not just the songwriting singing guitar playing but production of the records the videos the artwork on the albums the way they handle the media the way they handle their touring career all came out of his vision and he manifested exactly the way he wanted. It didn't give them all the happiness he hoped it would but it absolutely accomplished you know that was there was a conscious creation was not accidental. Yeah and touching back a little bit of what you said you know. Never mind breaking the way it did open doors for all those bands the the other the other big three bands. You know soundgarden. Janes chains in pearl jam. All saw their biggest success after that record. Kind of open a hundred percent. Yeah and in the end and many many many other but like when they were gonna do never mind you know. I mean the half of the recording budget was spent hiring rehearsal room and he insisted that they rehearse like eight hours a day for months when they went into the studio. They'd played those songs hundreds of times. You know butch vig who produced never mind said he just couldn't believe it they would do things in one or two takes. Because because kurt had this you know intensity about about having music be exactly right you know was not Sloppy it was intense. It was raw but it wasn't sloppy was conscious music. Yeah night I definitely heard a lot of things. That echo everything. You're talking about there in. They definitely hammered out that record. Even steve albani told me how quickly they recorded in. Utero is only like a couple of weeks so same thing because they rehearsed all the songs you know the guys who made yeah. He took very seriously the craftsmanship of songwriting arranging and recording. So they did the same thing they. They didn't rehearse in the studio they rehearsed way before they went into the radio. So when they're making this record like what. What is the role of danny goldberg. At that point very little you know they. They knew what they were doing And you know I just was excited. When i heard the rough of it and i heard smells like teen spirit who was like a whole other level of songwriting and apparent on bleach. I mean i thought they were gonna get bigger. But i didn't know they were going to make that kind of a leap but i was not. I didn't go to the studio i can. I'm writing bastard company. I'm not a record producer. I'm not a musician I was waiting for them to finish the album. Basically that was my main role. I know there's so many roles and that at that you know like publicist and all these other people that that that come together and kind of work when the big machine gets going on some that it just it is fascinating to me. Because management seems to encompass almost it's so generic term. that could mean almost anything from artists. Artists because they it's up to what the artist wants to manage your. It's a service profession. You work for the artist but in general you know an art especially if you go back to that time you know had a number of different relationships. They had relationship with the record company. They had a relationship often with the music publisher. They had a relationship with the media The the radio part of the media press part of the media and mtv which was its own thing that was so incredibly important to american popular music. That time you know it was twenty four hours a day seven days a week playing music videos you know on a on a cable channel when they were some far fewer channels than there are today and You know they would have a relationship with concert promoters they would have a lawyer. They have an account they would have a tour manager who dealt with the logistics on the road And then and then they were the concert promoters booking agent that book the shows and the manager was sort of you know one one way people would describe the manage. Your was the sort of the ceo overseeing the link between the artists and all those seven or eight different things and to on behalf of the artist. Try to get those different systems to function To maximize what the artists wanted which combined in nevada's one hundred percent control of the art and the cultural symbolism associated with what they did and at the same time they wanted to make money and be successful so so the other the other row way people describe management is like it's it's the buck stops with you. You know anything that goes wrong. Is your fault there for you. Gotta try to stay ahead of everything and then with some artists manager relationships and this did happen with being. Kurt doesn't have all the time. You become a personal sounding board to just help them think through what they wanna do. They are in charge but they like to have somebody to talk to with another with another set of experiences relationships so Sometimes is that personal component of adviser. Also you know and but in general you know you're you're sort of driving the business you know. Most managers don't get involved with the music is certainly never did. I don't have any musical talent. I i have admiration for people. Musical authors like being there advocate So managers typically you know again they. They they run the business of the artist you know and in doing that. They a lot of these other entities but those entities usually will always go through most situations. Go you know through the manager so you don't play any instrument. no no. i tried when i was a kid. I just had no no aptitude. All right Well i'm nevermind. Kurt would actually complain about the production. Eventually he said it sounded like a motley crue record. Which i'm i don't necessarily agree with him on that one. Danny you know. I think that he he a balance His relationship with the punk subculture which it just inspired him enormously. In his teenage years which he recognized the outsider ness of it the the the need integrity the emotions of that audience and even though they were only a small percentage of the total eventual audience in nevada. They were the original audience end the and he always wanted to stay true to that part of himself so after nevermind was incredibly successful. He would sometimes say shit like that in interviews to Try to recognize the difference between the pure punk fans and this mass rock audience that now also like nirvana but he completely controlled the sound of that record. It's not like anyone imposed anything on. And he he controlled every how much echo or. No echo was on the mike's he controlled the mixes control. The mastering he physically went to the mastering of the record. He had to approve of everything he had the final say on everything. And that's his era. He he then wanted to remixer he approved the remix is he he He picked the guy that the you know it was his record. He just end. The success of it. Turns it into another thing was separate from a work of art this mass cultural statement and he empathized with the punk fans who felt that the sheer success of it. You know it's just weird when you know the people they use the kick your ass in highschool now part your audience so And things like that about the production there. Yeah but i really don't think that he really believed there was anything wrong with the production of it. He was his record. You know he. He just understood the emotions of the punk audience in the wake of punk becoming this commercial medium and suddenly where do they go to their individual identity and so that was part of the calculation of working with albany on the next record it was also you know that he admired a lot of the records. The producer like You know Breeders and so on but and the pj harvey records. I think he just done but he also knew the symbolism of albany new that that's slightly roar sound would address that but the truth is i think if you listened never mind then you listen to in utero. It's the same artist i mean. Come on it's still on the same thing same musician. Same songwriting head the same. It's pretty subtle. Sonic distinction It's it's real and he did it on purpose. And and in utero is my favorite vulner- epic even more than never mind Or unplugged but but you know it's the same art and it's the same one person cobain my opinion who brought to life all of these records. You know not not that. He didn't have very important people helping do it. But they all say he was the guy what about. How did he feel about like the cultural impact that that wants to that kind of got out of control where you had like. Jc penney selling grunge. Line of clothes. i mean i honest- honestly danny. I don't think starbucks would be as big as it was today if it wasn't for that scene and and that seat doesn't blow up without nirvana you know what i mean. So he thoughts on that. I that that that you know. I mean he thought the whole idea of lumping music together and people talk about a seattle sound. He didn't even like the word grunge. You know because he. He was an individual artist. He doesn't like being lumped in with a scene or a trend or anything like that. And i think he he he had a point. He was an individual artistic person. There wasn't just a product of some genre I think in terms of those things you know. He had so many other things on his mind about his own dramas his own interaction with the media. His own suddenly his personal life becoming public And plus the pressure he put on himself to keep you know being successful and and then trying to control his own life so you know i think those other kinds of things. Didn't you know again he. He even came to music. He generally speaking avoided things that would lump nirvana in with some seen that he looked at it as an individual artist. And you know like when that movie singles was made. You know You know he didn't want nirvana to be part of the soundtrack because it wasn't he didn't dislike those other artists. He ended up being friends with quite a few wooden admire a lot of them but he just didn't like his the idea that it did. His art was going to be lumped in as part of some trend or something he sort of individual unique car of energy. And i think it was Well never never mind. It does eventually come out on. September twenty fourth nineteen ninety one Now i'll tell you just a quick Feedback for me teen spirit. I saw the video on. Mtv and clicked with me. but i. i wasn't sure that i actually liked it. If that makes any sense. I've talked to other people felt that way it's like do i actually enjoy this is it just felt like something was changing now for me. I'm just turning twenty years old. It's almost perfect. Timing for that. You know. I mean the hair metal doesn't really speak to me like it did when i was fifteen and now i'm hearing lyrics a resonate a little more like honestly i guess and plus the music seemed to be delivered in in a in a punch your way d- by any chance. Remember what you were doing with day. This was released where they're big expectations. I was again. I was there when they shot the video and i lived through the editing at the video. You know so i was. You know kind of part of the team you know. It didn't have the impact on me. That would fan. Because i heard this music for a long time. We had a lot of that. We had our own sense of that. Something special was happening and they were all the mechanics of handling the business and dealing with all the different decisions that had to be made about the touring and interviews and the press kit and all that stuff. So i remember You know. I thought the video was Was terrific. I thought it was. It was You know one to me. It was a you know. I remember like you know. Mtv the first week they put it in medium. And i was like. Oh my god we gotta get them to put it in. Heavy you know would have different levels of rotation how many times a week they would play it and heavy was the best one and You know sonic youth eighth started in medium and then never got beyond medium. And i had this one week of anxiety and then they you know immediately. Wet heavy day think they. They already had planned that unbeknownst to me but there had been a guns and roses for the other week before they took the other heavy slot so it took off so incredibly because the guns and roses beef started. No no you know. Was i joke all other thing. But you know the the It was weird that they were on the same label. Though that that that was definitely part of the whole trip but You know It happened incredibly quickly. I mean that's song. Was the magic song. I remember You know when this first came out but in days the people at the company were saying that the phone requests were incredible requested. The in these stores advance orders. It just bought the video and the song where magic in terms of their immediate impact on a mass Public was clearly bigger than just the punk rock subculture that nirvana had previously people too. So the main thing about it was it was a instant. Hit both the song and the video yeah. The scene changed very quick I i vividly remember it But but for lack of a better term so i i'm not trying to be insulting but that that song was milked for quite a while before the second single came out if i recall correct. Wasn't that the next single early ninety two Probably you know. I think that it was always the idea that come as you are would be the second track We didn't really know. Initially that sounds like teen spirit would also be a top forty hit we could. It might just be for the alternative stations core identity song. So but you know there's a certain length of time you know want to It's not about milking and it's just about leading a song have the appropriate life span which you read that. Based on the way the radio stations keep playing it. I mean a record company doesn't control. How long radio station plays a song they do. They do it mostly based on the audience research. They're doing and you get the statistics every week of how many you know. How many spins something was getting and you just you just you just let it have. Its natural life span and then when it's starting to fade in enough people are looking to play another song because after all the only reason you put out singles had to do radio programming and timing of video released. The album came out so everybody could hear all of the songs on the album if they wanted to. The album was already out in. You know by A few weeks after smells like teen spirit came out right so it's just a decision of when to Suggest to the radio stations. They play the next song. And you wait until they finish playing this one however long that is that's like every you know every artist. When did when did the band can realize that Their lives were changed forever. I'll pretty soon. You know I think there was one time. I remember being airport. And they you know as it was like a cassette rack and some of the airports. I think they both said i can't believe our airport. This is insane because again. They came from punk bands. Ever see a soap opera. You know back. And you know i think they. I think it came pretty quickly. I mean you know. It's hard to know what exact things you know but but it happened very very quickly. Certainly album comes out the third week of september. Certainly by the three months later by the beginning of january when it's a number one album and they're doing saturday night live. They note her life as james so sometime in that three months which day it was might be different for the three guys it. It happened very very. It was pretty clear pretty quickly. I would certainly say within a month. You're being too vague. Danny nail it down Well what about like the so now. They go out and go on tour. What's your daily interaction with them or is your interaction daily. Are you on the road with them. What kind of i went to certain shows. They had a tour manager. I didn't go on the road. I would go to certain shows. I saw them in chicago. You know the first group of dates. The idea was to play the clubs where they'd already played even though they already become too big for those clubs because they didn't wanna look like They were forgetting their roots. So in the case of chicago is a club called the metro that holds about five hundred people. And it's to this day there's raw critics in chicago that say it's one of the all time greatest chicago shows you know. And that was the night. When i first met courtney love was there She came into the dressing room. And you know. By the end of the evening she was sitting on kurt's lap and they were together for the rest of his life after that So i would. i would go to certain shows. I saw them in london. I saw them in seattle I forget all the shows so. But i didn't go on the whole tour. They didn't chore that much But so one french festival show. I remember And when he got together with court a A lot of the people around the band did not like her initially and I had heard about her. My ex wife had been her lawyer you about her and i also i just i was forty. I've been around this a long time. Who you're managing has a love interest. You better get along with them or else. You're going to lose your relationship with the artist. So i immediately gave her the benefit of the doubt. Both because i liked her Because we knew some people in common and because it was in our mutual interest. I think and It turned out. I was the only one that that that at. That moment was really Feeling connected with her and that made kurt Reach out to me in a different way personally talked about two things and so then for the rest of his life from that moment on. I kind of became the kirk person. Initially i was sort of the older guy that was just running the company and dealing with kind of the record deal part of it in the macro decisions but at that point which is only about a month after never by came out i. My role grows to include kind of usually on most issues. Being the person who would want talk to about Various things With i'll get into salacious We're we're the members of the band. cool with courtney. Was there any kind of friction there you know. I have to ask them because there's been all these books about them. I think the relationships went up and down over time. And they're still in business together. They share they share control of the cadillac Their recordings But generally speaking you know they became kind of a couple had their own energy that was separate from the greater band thing even though obviously was still a band and You know i was He was the lead singer songwriter. I was like i'm following. That guy around you know. So in retrospect i probably should have spent a little more time following dave grohl but i at the time. I was very fixated on the fact that kurt wrote and sung those songs and played lead guitar and made every decision for the band. Seem to me like he was going to focus on. And i love. Kim you know and i played some role in his head. He liked me and like you know kind of my liberal values in my some of my background and I just love the guy you know and you know again. They became so big so fast. That the minute they became big. It wasn't only that. I loved them but was just. There was a currency to just having that relationship. People were so interested in hand and so you know even after i left management with atlantic records. I still maintain that role until he died like a his personal manager of the band manager. Well i was like you know it was a convoluted structure businesswise not worth going at the moment but but i i John silva was the manager of the band wants. I'm working as as as an executive atlantic records. But i function does account manager the band with a particular role of being. Usually the person. Kurt wanted to talk to you. Even when i was atlantic we'd have some k- memo's things on atlantic stationary were memos about atlanta notes. I wrote to him You know we we you know so. So i maintained a My deal with atlantic permitted nita. Continue to render services for for them. Because that's why they hired me. I was the guy that had marriage nirvana and i was. You know kind of overseeing the or for that kind of music atlantic for those few years and anyway that's the answer to that all right You got a couple of thoughts. On courtney i wanted to ask you but but With with that kind of step away would that have been before or after in utero. Because the reason i'm asking. Danny is that i know there is not like the the record. Company wasn't thrilled with the final product when they got it back. I'm curious if you know any insight or that seems like some manager would be involved in. I was i was completely involved in world okay. By that time. I was in atlantic. I i and i will say if if you'll forgive the plug i mean. I discuss all of this in detail. In the absolutely i i may have perused that book at one point even may have given me a little serving servant remembering go back available Certainly all online physical stores. But you know. I look this idea that the record company quote unquote Wasn't thrilled is is really a not exactly what happened. First of all only a handful too. I think one or two people at the record company heard the original mixes and So did a number of friends so did the other members of the band and the most important person who heard it was courage and kurt you know who had one hundred percent creative control by contract and a thousand percent creative control. By dint of having being this now he was this rock icon. You know cared about having hits. He talked about what's going to be the first single. What's going to be the second single. He he he had multiple agendas. He wanted to keep his punk fans. He wanted to have big. Mtv videos he he wanted to have his integrity. He wanted to say the political things he wanted he wanted to. Also you know the you know one of the biggest stars in the world. This is all part of his agenda and he made the decision he He asked me if i knew scotland. Who had produced a the rem albums and as part of that mix them and Scotland had been one of the original names. That kirk considered for never mind but the schedule and good workout and he ended up God that's the problem with getting older than wonderful producer. Who did never mind i. I'm sorry let me get ended up with butch vig but but so scott remixed The singles on on on a new zero heart shaped box He remixed What is it All apologies and he he also remixed a remix of penny royalty which i had lived probably would have been the next You know single and You know although all of this got commingled with he quickly did when he decided not to do another video after heart shaped box. That's when had the idea to do the unplugged record but the unplug record. Didn't come out until after. Kurt you know died Anyway he wanted those re mixes and he likes scotland and after then he had scotland. Do all the mixing and engineering on the unplugged records. And he also injured have had he s scott to help courtney out with a couple of songs. I think on the first hole record. I mean that doesn't mean he didn't like steve beanie. He respected steve albany for all the reasons that he originally wanted to work with them. They certainly kind of sound that he got into the studio and the integrity of beanie represented but He didn't like the way he mixed the record. And he he you know current remixed. The first record to current like was pans on with this stuff. So this whole idea that it was the label was was Was a pr thing that Took on a life of its own. You know At the time again. I don't detail on this course chris. Beanie did a couple of interviews where he said that and then the band was so upset by albany. Saying that i think was a newsweek interview. I was in chicago newspaper. I was in a national magazine. They actually issued a statement disagreeing with him and saying we. Nobody tells us what to do. We're doing what we want with our record. You know not true. You know and kurt. In repeated interviews said the same thing when you came out But you know that mythology lives on that. This was some some external thing this is kirk. Cockbain made the records. He wanted to make for his entire career. One hundred percent right on any. Is there any truth to the that. Gene simmons wanted them to be on the kiss. My ass history record. Albany brought it up to me. I don't remember you know I just don't remember you know what i know i. I wouldn't surprise me if jean wanted them. Jesus smart guy no what they represented and it certainly doesn't surprise me curt wouldn't want to be on it. That's wasn't you know he would do a wipers tribute. He liked to tributes to punk artists that inspired him not to mass appeal people for they blew up though they did they were on a kiss tribute record. I'm not sure if you were that that was They did a cover of. Do you love me i believe. Oh yeah i forgot. I threw that in there Well you a little bit on courtney. One of the things that i talked about that. Change that he my personal opinion going through this. I have a little more respect for her than i used to. I don't know that her. And i would ever be friends. She's kind of an abrasive personality. But i definitely. I don't think i judged her fairly based on a lot of things that well you know she. She's not her best her own. Best advocate to be honest with you but at the same time. I don't know there is kind of this thing. Where i it's just harder for a woman sometimes but It sounds like you get along with her fine. Well look it's it. We're talking about you know whatever thirty years I haven't been in touch with her. The last couple of years. She did was kind enough. When i wrote the book to talk to me a few times about it and we we kind of we going in and out of touch over the decades lou since the pandemic. I haven't heard. I think she's living in london. Look i think she's a complicated person. But i don't think you love rock and roll. You can fairly denied that. She's a really good artist. I mean the Live live through this. Was you know voted album of the year by rolling stone and spin readers. It's a so many women of that generation who who are fans of it. I think got inspired. By what courtney did you know you know. So she's she's not in the most prolific artist. You know but. I think the body of work. The quality level is very very high Both the songwriting and her singing I think she's done some good acting things i think she's you know. Complicated issues had her dark years and dark days but You know. I think. I think that whole is in their own right significant artists and a significant legacy. Yeah i agree with that. Especially after going through this That album of course was on the list so we got into that for one episode and might take away. I re- i really didn't musically appreciate it anymore than i did. Initially but lyrically. I could just hear how much those words would mean to like a like a fifteen or sixteen year old girl at that time. I you know i apologize. My mind wandered for fifteen or sixteen like going to like. I actually never really gave that record much attention. But i we went through it for this list. I have to do due diligence and actually pay attention to this stuff. I think that album would really resonate with somebody going through some hard times in the teen years that that there's a lot of what she was talking about. It seemed a lot reeler than i than. I ever really give it much time. I guess yeah. I think i think that's a great album. I i think. I think i made a number of very good records and i think she's a real artist. I mean look. There's only one kurt cobain and i think he would be the first to say she's not him but she's courtney love and she She wrote those songs She certainly wrote the lyrics musically. She could have a good band and everything. But you know I think he's a very very good lyricist and You know and and and a unique figure in in in in kind of part of rock history has often been her own. Worst enemy she knew. Admit that too. I think but Some of a lot of creative people sure that's gonna like i don't know that we would judge her the same way if she were a man. I think that's true. I mean unfortunately it's It's been a male genre rock and roll and You know there's been a streak of misogyny in that culture the way there is in you know general culture and and You know that's that's just a that's just a true but But the work holds up the great thing about music. Is the music still there for people. Listen to you know. I'm a little foggy on the timing but curto deed while they were on tour in europe At some point right. Yeah he he. Oh deed in italy Again the exact dates are in in the book but it was only about six weeks before he died. He took an overdose of something called. Rohypnol which is. I don't know what it is. Some kind of sedative sleeping co whatever it was and had his stomach pumped and that was scary. Several hours I was in new york. I was on the phone with corny. Couple times that day but i wasn't in italy and And then about just about six weeks later is when he killed himself. I think there's been rumors that the band was close to breaking up at that tour in anything about that. Well i think there were tensions. Did the band look at drug addiction is horrible. That's bad for every relationship including the relationship of members of the band and and he he was a drug addict. There's no question about it. He fought it but he you know often fought a losing battle with so you know a lot of bands go through those things and I'm sure you know it was one of those situations who i'm sure. Every time was steaming like oh. Is this going to be the last time i mean. No one knows what happens if you live. I'm sure there would have been reunions at a minimum. I'm sure dave grohl would have found his voice for she or he knew he. I may not have known that he could be a front man in the lead singer at that time but he shouldn't must have known it to become what us when he become. So you know. I'm sure things have changed. But there were tensions. There was also demand enormous bond when they played together that often overcame the tensions. You mentioned this in your book Serving the servants that the last time you talked to him was an intervention that that has to be i mean the interventions are easy for anybody That's the that's the last time we saw him though right there. Last time i saw him i called him. You know. I flew down to los angeles i went to i went to seattle. You know i was working in new york but my family was still in la so he like went from new york to seattle. Seattle down to la. So i called them. When i got home to la late afternoon or early evening. So i did speak to him one time after that intervention a on the phone The same day basically of the intervention the intervention was like in the morning. And i guess i spoke to bite on the phone. Those are the last time i saw him and then subsequent followed by last time i spoke to him May maybe you don't want to answer. But we're david crist involved in that intervention not in my memory Not in my not in my memory. you know I remember silva was there. Janet billig who work with the management company was there I forget who else was there. Some But but i don't i don't think that point. I don't think chris they were there. Okay i in and we're getting here towards the end here but just a couple more things Do you maintain any kind of contact with dave chris. I've been in touch over the years with chris We we share a lot of applicable beliefs I had a small again printed published a book that chris road called grunge in government and He's on the board of thing where i think he's chairman of the board. Now fair vote. You know back before the pandemic they'd have meetings or events in new york. I usually go and see. Chris there and chris the talk to me for the book a day. I have not been in touch with. I reached out to for the book in your back from him. You know there are some hurt feelings from that time. And you know i i got to talk to most of the folks that were involved but there were few. That didn't wanna talk So not with dave For quite a while. But with chris I feel through the decades. I've always stayed in touch with him again. I haven't talked to him since that started. But i just feel he's someone that every couple years we and up in the same room. He's he said sir. I mean they're all great guys. He's particularly lovely person nice Dave does seem hesitant to talk about nirvana just in general as well. He was the newest member of the band chris. I always had sort of political conversation going on parallel. To whatever else was happening. Kerr was this genius. That i you know then became connected with personally And i never got to know dave as well. I don't feel that. I have anything intelligent to say about him. Except that he's an incredibly talented guy. Then and now. It is kind of incredible. What he's doing with the foo fighters but Yeah you know striking gold twice so to speak but Well looking back at never mind. Let's dot we'll we'll we'll we'll tie it back to that What do you think about it now. I mean have you listened to what was the last time you wanna listen to it and when you look back what are what are your thoughts. I just think it's a classic album you know it's very strange when you're involved with a record professionally you can never hear it the way san. Here's it But you know. I just think it's the song writings incredible. I listen to all of the music. When i was writing the book that came out two or three years ago. And you know they're a period where i don't listen to nirvana but you know. I think it's you know one of the great rock albums you know of of all time and you know. I'm very proud. That i was involved with it as one of the managers of the band. Right on Danny thank you so much for your time. Thank you for coming on. You're definitely oh my lord you've just been involved in so many major artists of of of rock history It truly was an honor to to get some time from you. It's very nice to talk to you. And i appreciate the thoughtfulness of the questions and you know how to reach me anytime. All right and the book serving the servant which came out in two thousand nineteen of course is available. Pretty much anywhere. You can buy a book. you wanna pimp that one coming out in november. We're time hit me with the title. Sure bloody crush rose twenty twenty art entertainment resistance to trump all right. Everybody go out and buy that book pre-order it now danny goldberg dot com. Is that right No go on amazon. Okay buller wherever you know. That's where they sell the books. I have a good night. Danny i really appreciate it later by so a have to tell you i just. This is being taped right or we we're not.

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