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"chris olave" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"That's when you go with the fist pound, right? Yeah, I know. I know. Fun stuff back in the day. Before we leave here today, one of the biggest mysteries of the upcoming season, as I've mentioned over and over and over again, is what in the world will the Ravens offense look like with Greg Roman, the offensive coordinator out and Todd Monkin, formerly in the NFL and also most recently, the Georgia Bulldogs in. We don't know. Is it going to be that three yards in a cloud of dust? And then Lamar runs it when he doesn't have his one option open. Mark Andrews. He got some options. He sure does, doesn't he? Odell in the mix and Zay Flowers being drafted and Rashad Bateman being healthy and Mark Andrews being back and Isaiah likely being another tight end. That's pretty damn good. And obviously, J .K. Dobbins, a year removed from coming back with a knee injury. And the same thing with Gus Edwards. Let's go, right? Let's go. And Lamar now Pizzade Heavy Pockets to use the phrase that Dion used back in the day. He's playing with heavy pockets. Now, then Lamar today on the new Ravens offense. Our new offense is smooth, more verbatim than usual. I like it. I'm loving it so far. There you go. Got nothing else. It's smooth. More verbiage. You're going to get nothing. And by the way, you know what they should do in the preseason is run the same offense as last year. Use Greg Roman's playbook. I know that sounds stupid. Not during the games run the old stuff. Yes, just do it. Only practice the new stuff. Practice the new stuff. I wouldn't play Lamar. None of the new stuff. Zero point zero. Don't even play Lamar in the preseason. I wouldn't play Lamar a single snap. Yeah, no chance. First time we see Lamar. Let me get it right. Week one, we know it's not a nationally televised game because they only have one in the first 11 weeks. I don't know. The Ravens don't play. The Ravens have an international game against Tennessee in week six. And then they've got a Sunday night game in week 12. And they got a Thursday night against Cincinnati. And other than that, you got to tune into your local stations. You come out and drop 50 on Houston and say, what's up? There's a chance that could happen, too, man. All of a sudden, red zone. It's just like Lamar, touchdown. Lamar, touchdown. Zay Flowers, 80 yards. You're like, whoa. And then suddenly - Like his MVP season in Miami. Miami, where they threw 55 on Miami or something. And he had five touchdown passes week one or something like that? Yeah. Big mystery. And we're all sitting here thinking, you know, it's the same world as the last two years. It's Burroughs' world. It's Mahomes' world. It's Alan's world. And it's who's going to get that fourth seat in musical chairs in the divisional weekend. When it's just four teams left. Two years ago, it was Tannehill. Last year, it was Trevor Lawrence. This year, you know, a lot of folks are thinking what I'm thinking. It's Aaron Rodgers. And then, of course, there's the Ravens saying, hello. Hello. We have no idea. Although, is it smooth? And it's very wordy. Smooth and wordy. Smooth and wordy. It's smoother than wordy. By the way, my favorite ice cream flavor. Yes. Smooth and wordy. Is that new at Ben and Jerry? I don't know. Smooth and wordy. I'll take two scoops, please. Would you like a sugar cone or in a bowl? Here's on tomorrow. Henry Winkler's on tomorrow. This world doesn't need enough smiles. Henry's coming back. You know, Henry's coming back. Yes, he's back. Thank you to Jimmy Tatro, Chris Olave, Lane Johnson, and Chris Mannix in studio. We're back, people. You love Lala Kent on Vanderpump Rules. Now get to know her on Give Them Lala. With her assistant, Jess. What you did not see is when Raquel arrives and she wants to talk to me, I made her sit in a corner. Explain. Sat in a corner booth all by herself in the dark. Waiting for to talk to you. Waiting for me to finish dancing to 50 Cent. It's my birthday. Sit in a corner. Give Them Lala wherever you listen.
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"chris olave" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"Like when he would just put it way behind his head and he'd be like horizontally backwards that way, I'm like, 100%, that's going in. And by the way, not even like hitting the rim either. No, just straight through. Yeah. Straight through. Straight down to the floor. And plus, if there is a sequel to the machine, Jokic's brothers can be in it. That's true. Jokic all over Serbia. Every bus ad, every billboard, it's like a bus drives by, there's Jokic doing a watch ad, billboard, it's Jokic with some cheese. It's just Jokic's the guy out there. Out there. Yeah. And rightfully so. He's the original machine. He is. Pretty much. He should have made a cameo. That would have been... Well, I mean, Jokic's brothers seem like they'd be on that train. Yeah, they don't seem like they're messing around. No, no. They seem like they'd be on the train. They seem like they'd be on the train. Yeah, with Igor? Is that what you're saying? One of them would beat Igor, pretty much. Well, we saw the movie. It's funny. It's going to kill. And it is very, you know, truthful to... And you were crucial in being truthful to the actual story of that. It's a fun one. And you are in theater camp with Ben Platt on July 14th. What's that about? That is just kind of about a... A theater camp? A theater camp. That is... Well, I mean, Ben Platt is... I mean, can you sing? Can I sing? Yeah. No, that wasn't my job in the movie. It's basically about a theater camp. My mom owns the theater camp. She goes into a coma. So the ownership and responsibilities of the camp fall onto me, who's her clueless son, who's just so detached from the theater world and doesn't understand these people at all. So I come into this theater camp trying to run it and make sense of it and all these, you know, eccentric theater personalities. Okay. So it's cool. It's kind of like my character would kind of let in an audience that might not otherwise understand some of the more niche jokes. Okay. So you haze Evan Hansen in this film? Is that what it is, pretty much? Not quite. Okay. No. All right. I don't want to... I want to reveal too much here. Because again, I don't know what you're trying to hide more, the plot of this film or your trip to Antarctica. No, I can talk about the movie. I can talk about the movie. Okay. But Antarctica is like freaking Fight Club, man. Like you are not going there at all. Yeah. But so theater camp, you know... So hold on a minute. Just to revisit this one last time. So Bert told me to ask you about this, not because he knew the story. No, he knows. Oh, he knows the story. He knows. And he tried to get you to tell it publicly on the Bert cast. He just wants me to feel uncomfortable because I don't want to give away names and information on TV. So it's a humility thing or it's just like, this is personal stuff for these other people that might... Well, yeah, I just don't want to... I was on a trip with some people. I don't want to go around being like, I was on a trip with this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, you know? Oh, so it's a humility thing. Yeah. All right. So next time you come on, I want you to check your humility at the door. I'm sorry. Honestly. I mean, you have to check your humility at the door. We're a name dropping program. It's a safe space for name dropping. I gave a name. You gave an A name. I dropped an A name. Okay, good enough. Hey Jimmy, how about this, who's the most famous person, your classmate that you had at Notre Dame High School? Because I know a ton of actors and athletes come out of... There was... I went to school with John Carlos Stanton. Oh. If we're talking Notre Dame High School go Knights. You knew him when he was Mike. I knew him when he was Mike. And I thought he was going to the NFL. Is that right? Oh, yeah. He was 6 '5", 6 '6", as a senior in high school, catching passes with one hand, pushing the dude off him. And then he would play strong safety. He was unbelievable. And I remember thinking freshman year, I was like, if this guy doesn't go pro as a receiver, he could be the number one punter in the NFL. Punter? Because this dude could punt like nothing I've ever seen before. John Carlos Stanton can punt? Send balls sky from the 20 to the end zone. It was incredible. And then basketball season came around and I go, oh, maybe he's a basketball guy. And everyone's like, no, he's a baseball player. And then you saw him hit a baseball? And then I saw him hit a baseball, like he would hit them... He would hit them into the football field, like to the 50 yard line of the football field. He would just... It wasn't fair when he would connect in high school. He was a grown man amongst boys in high school. He hit Coldwater Canyon with a ball? Probably so. All the way from the deep valley. He's a punter. He's a punter. If anyone can get the guy to punt at this point, I would love to see it. Because the punts he used to throw down in high school were... How about that? Okay. That's what no one talks about when they talk about John Carlos. Nobody talks about his punting. No, they talk about his baseball tools. The guy can't hit. But no one wants to talk about his punting abilities. His exit velocity is normally what's brought out with him. Yeah. But you say his hang time was just as good. How about that? Check out his fun time here hanging with you. The Machine in theaters near you this Friday, May 26th. Theater Camp, also starring Ben Platt, will be in theaters on July 14th. At Jimmy on Instagram, at Jimmy Tatro on Twitter. Jimmy, thanks for coming on here, man. Thank you. Next time, he'll check his humility at the door. When we come back, Lamar on the New Look Ravens offense. When we come back. The boys of summer are playing on the Believe Podcast. The product of baseball is much more watchable.
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"chris olave" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"Because he knew I wouldn't want to give names. That's what he said. Because I said as he was going out the door. Yeah. I'm like, you know, I got Jimmy Tatro coming on Wednesday. Yeah. And he goes, oh, you got to ask him about Antarctica. Because I did his podcast and he was drilling me for names. And then I told him off the record and also let him know like, I don't really want to like expose, you know, all these names, all the people I was with. So it's more than just Sean White. Oh, man. I'm in too deep now. Yeah. I mean, yeah, there was a lot of cool people. But I gave one, you know. How about initials? What if we get initials? Let's talk about this. Are they also famous winter Olympic athletes? Nah. Okay. Did you rob anything? Did you literally, was it a heist? I stole some ice. What do you mean? I caught some wild ice while we were out there. What do you mean? What's wild ice? Well, they told you, you know, a lot of ice in Antarctica is there's, there's like natural gases that have been trapped in there for hundreds of thousands of years. Right. So when you like crack open some of the icebergs and you put it in your drink, it makes like a little rice crispies sounding. Oh, like pop rocks or something? Yeah, like pop rocks kind of. So we caught some, caught some wild ice while we were out on the boat. And then you put it in a? Had a hammer, broke it up. What'd you put in it? You know, tequila mostly. And? But I was very proud of it. You know, the whole time we're breaking up the ice, I was like, I caught this ice. I caught this ice out at sea. And all I do is I just go to a fridge and I just put a glass on it and something comes. And I just, you know, my big adventure is do I go crushed or do I go cubed? You know, and I hit the button and it comes out of my glass. What do you usually go for? You know what I do? Crushed. I'm a crushed ice guy. This, by the way, story about catching wild ice and then letting some gas that's been there for about two hundred thousand years loose sounds like a bad or a good awful storyline in a, in some sort of science fiction movie. Right. You're letting out like honestly, like suddenly. All of a sudden. Right. There's some mutations going on. Something's jumping out of your chest because you just caught wild ice and put it into your tequila. You know, we warned you about the ice. We had one rule. We said, don't catch the ice. In a world where they told him not to catch the wild ice and break it open. Wild ice Jimmy Chaytro and the machine too. Oh my gosh. All right. So that's it. That's the story. But it is. So, okay. Scale of one to ten. The story you're not telling us. It's a ten. I hate to do it, but yeah, it was the craziest trip I've ever been on. And over under of how many other people were on this trip? It was like fifteen of us. Fifteen of you. Yeah. Over under of people's names we would recognize of the fifteen. We're setting it. It's seven and a half. I'm taking the over. Is that a win? No, it was under seven. Under seven and a half. That's all we're going to get. How's the half figure into it? I don't know. I have no idea because you can't, you know. Was we man there? No, it's got nothing to do with half a human. It's just like you have to, you know, I don't want to, I don't want them to say, oh yeah, it's a tie. Can't have it. I got to win something here. That's why you got to go seven and a half. Okay. There's no time. Very good. All right. So what did you, what did you learn about Bill, about Bert Kreischer? Jimmy, out of playing in the machine? What did you learn about him? I learned a lot about Bert Kreischer. I think Bert Kreischer is like a walking advertisement for a good time. I think he's very authentic and genuine. And I think the thing that you just got to love about Bert is he's just so grateful and happy for everything that he has. And you just can't really hate on a guy like that. He's just so grateful for all the awesome things that are happening in his world right now. And it just kind of makes you root for the guy. He is as genuine as they come. Yeah. There's not a fake bone in his body. No, and he's, and he's a blast to hang out with. It's really, you know, well, you guys did after at the Superbowl, you saw him in concert and went out and you drank with him in his, in his dressing room backstage with everybody. We took our shirts off. We got the full experience. We partied with the machine, no doubt. Well, I have a feeling Jimmy taking his shirt off is much more welcome for a lot of other people than just you guys. Yeah, I mean, nobody wants to see us with our shirts. That's correct. Jimmy put in, I saw the movie, Jimmy put in the work to take his shirt off. That's natural, right? You're not working out, right? I didn't want to work. I didn't want to get in like great shape that didn't feel right. Yeah, but I also didn't want to, you know, I didn't want to get like big. Sure. Yeah. By the way, makes total sense. Bert would appreciate that. I think so. I mean, it would be, I mean, you have to suspend your disbelief enough. Yeah. When you're watching an action thriller born out of his, the machine storytelling. So if you come and show up like, you know, 0 % body fat, I'm like, how does that Bert? Yeah. I mean, how's that Bert? If it's 0 % body fat, it starts to feel like, is this like a dream sequence or what's going on? So which is your team's here in Los Angeles that you root for? Yeah, I mean, I grew up here in Los Angeles, so I'm a diehard Lakers fan. What do you think? Have we seen the end of LeBron? What do you think? No, I don't think he's going to retire. I think he's, I mean, I think he just wanted to play with his son. Yes. And now his son's going to college. So he's just kind of wondering if their timing will line up. That's my guess, but I don't think this is the end of LeBron. I don't think he's just going to go out like that. I think he would want to do one big like last season farewell tour. It doesn't feel very LeBron to just be like, actually, that's it. I'm gone. Right. He'd make a bigger deal out of it. And I just think the team has totally turned it around in a way that nobody people saw coming. Yeah. I mean, the last two, three months for a Laker fan has to be like, okay, that's more like it. I thought we really had a shot to be honest, especially after the first two series. Right. Yeah, I had high hopes. Yes. But Jokic, I mean, the crazier the shot was that he took, the more I knew what was going on.
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"chris olave" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"The man who's currently in home economics and is also well known for his work in American Vandal, also 22 Jump Street, but now playing Bert Kreischer, the young version of Bert in the Machine, which is in theaters near you this very Friday. Jimmy Tetro is here on the Rich Eyes and Show. So let me just jump right into it. Let's dive in. How are you pitched the role of being a young Bert Kreischer? How did that happen? Do you mean to ask if I was offended by this? That's one way to spin it. That's one way to spin it. I think, well, they just said Bert was a big fan. He saw me in a show called The Guest Book. He was a big fan. Wanted me to play him in the movie. I quickly became familiar with the story. You're one of the 52 million people who have watched The Viral Machine? I am now. To be honest, I hadn't at the time heard of it. And it was funny because I was just trying to get away from doing the frat party guy. And then I saw this one and I was like, this is a pretty good one to do, though. It's just such an epic story. Yeah, I was like, I'll let Bert have this. Because you're a professional actor, how does one prepare for the role of Bert Kreischer? It was kind of easy just being with him. You just hang with him on set the whole time. He's there right next to you. So if there's anything you're unsure about, you're just like, okay, yeah, there we go. The source material is to your right. Yeah. And he was shirtless. I think the majority of the shoot. So you're looking at craft services, he's there without a shirt on. There without a shirt on. You go to his house, he's there without a shirt on. You're going to hair and makeup, he's there without a shirt on. That's just his vibe. Sometimes you go to his house, he has nothing on. That's true, too. That's true, too. Okay. So did you ever turn to him and say, did this really happen? Does that really happen? You did your own interpretation of this. It was cool watching him watch the movie being shot. And it was clearly such an emotional thing for him. There was one line that I said where I said, I don't go to class much. And he started crying. And I was like, what's up, man? You okay? And then he was like, no, it's just crazy. I actually said this. And then now here we are. And there's a big movie being made. We're in Serbia. It's just surreal. And I think that's pretty cool. It's cool to hear a real quote that you said from 20 years ago in a movie now. Now you and Harrison Ford have something in common. You're in a Mark Hamill film as well. I hadn't thought about it like that. Wow. Look at that. So what was it like being around him on the set? Mark Hamill? Yeah, man. I mean, it was cool. That was also a little surreal. Just another guy that's just such a legend. And then you're just kind of hanging in the same room with him. And all of a sudden, it's casual every now and then. You just got to remind yourself that's Luke Skywalker. Did you ever play it cool? You have to remind yourself you got to play this thing cool? Yeah. I think I played it pretty cool. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I just was the way I played it. Of course, it's not nice to him at all. Oh, okay. You just put him on. You froze him out? Yeah. Frozen out. Okay. Fantastic. Jimmy Tatro is here on the Rich Eisen show. So you shot this in Serbia. In Serbia, yeah. And that was an interesting experience. Serbia was cool. It was not a place I'd ever been, obviously. It hadn't been? No, it hadn't been. What's the furthest you've ever traveled somewhere? Antarctica. Oh, really? Okay. And - Funny you ask. It's actually the furthest place you can go. Is that right? What were you doing there? I just got invited on this crazy trip. By who? Just a friend of mine who put together this kind of a wild trip. But it did feel like, it felt like the furthest I've been. It felt like you were packing to go to space, basically. So what do you mean? It was a friend, like, hey, I'm going to Antarctica and - Yeah. Seems like you're - Something like that. You're kind of hiding something from me right now, Jimmy. Okay. It was a heist. Okay. What do you mean it was a heist? No, no, it wasn't a heist. It was just an interesting group of people that a friend put together to go on this - We want names. I know. I don't want to be the name dropper, though. You have to be. Are you kidding me? First of all, let me just put it this way. I am one of the worst name droppers of all time. And I'm trying to - Worst or best? Worst or best? It depends how you view the language, you know? I would say best. I don't mind it. I don't mind a name drop. All right. I'll give one name. How about that? Sure. Okay. Sean what? Okay. Yeah. All right. We went snowboarding in Antarctica. You went snowboarding with Sean White? Yeah. How good are you with snowboarding? I'm good. Okay. I'm not like Sean White good. You know, we can hang together and, you know, I'll just do less cool stuff than him. But yeah. All right. I'm going to give full disclosure now. In this chair on Friday, Bern Kreischer told me, ask him about Antarctica.
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"chris olave" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"How does that sound? Can I invite you back on for that week? I'll call the Saints right now and say, as long as you are up for it, let's chat, you know? Yes, sir. That's perfect. In the meantime, Chris, good luck to you. Let's talk before then, if not sooner. Have a great rest of your spring and summer and we'll be right back at you. Right back at you. That's Chris Olave of the New Orleans Saints. How about that? These are, you know, players of his stature coming out of college, certainly at the position that he plays. They like speaking things into existence and are not wallflowers and are very confident and talking about, I'm the best. I'm the best. Especially that position. He's like people have told you this next year's draft is going to be insane. Caleb Williams, Drake May, and this kid's going to be third overall. Yeah. And they all could or should go number one. Yeah. I think I just gave you the first three names off the board in Detroit next year. The draft starts at four. Don't you think? Yeah. And if you're one of the top three and you don't, I mean, obviously everyone needs Harrison, but if you don't need a quarterback. Yeah. What if the Panthers end up getting number one? Well, they'll date trade down and all that. I don't think so. I think the Panthers are going to be really surprising this year with somebody who's a first overall rookie quarterback. And you know that they've got usually some speed bumps along the road, those kids. I know I've already put my marker on the Falcons. I've got my finger on that chess piece. I've removed my chess piece on the Lions. Oh. From the NFC North. That's not your prediction anymore or you already? That is. I've removed my finger. That chess piece is gone, but I've made my chess move on the Falcons. Let go. And I still have my finger on the piece. Gotcha. You're holding. As you know, that's the way you play chess. Yeah. Right? Till you let go. Till you let go. Right? Not official till you let go. You're seeing the Queen's Gambit? No. You should see it. This has nothing to do with that. It sounded good. I'm just wondering, is that a rule? Isn't it a rule? You make a move, your finger's... I haven't taken my finger off it. It's how it is in checkers. Theoretically, in a real chess match. In any game, by the way. Monopoly, anything. When you hit the clock, you've given your move up. Oh. Hit the clock. So you could remove your finger from the piece and then put it back on? Put it back on, but the clock. Look at him. Yeah. Come on. Mike Tufo is an expert. Bobby Fischer was my guy when I was a kid. He's an expert on Yokich because he's seen him play once. Once, I went to one NBA. An expert on Jersey because he's been there forever. I've lived there. And now, who knew? You see, no idea. A chess aficionado. You are a renaissance man. I have a chess set at my house that is worth a lot of money. Who cannot spell renaissance. He definitely can't spell renaissance. Let's take a break. Jimmy Tetro is here. Let's go. Machine. He plays Bert Kreischer in a movie. The Machine. Man,
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"chris olave" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"I was thinking of it might have been a different school, Chris, you know? Oh, man, you already know. Just mixing it up. Like now, like, you know what I mean? Like you're used to mixing it up. I'm kind of mixing it up with you right now, you know? OK, so last November, Cesar Ruiz on your team, what was that like last November? The center on your team? Oh, man, we ain't sure about it, man. What do you mean? What do you mean? They got a couple in the past 20 years. They got the past two, but I feel like it's going to slip this year. So he didn't say anything to you in the locker room? Nothing? I mean, of course. OK, what happened? Of course they going to talk after they win, but I'm still talking, too. I mean, we ain't backing down. So I feel like we're going to see next year. We're going to see this year in November. I can't wait. I can't wait for that game. So it has not turned. You're saying it has not turned. So this is now still sort of an outlier. That's what you're saying, Chris. Oh, yeah, you already know. It's still Ohio State all the way. OK, well, now that Tom Brady's out of the division, you know, where he went to school, this is now considered a much more wide open division, even though you damn near won the thing last year anyway with Tom being there. How does your team talk about this upcoming season and the opportunity you have in the NFC South right now, Chris? It's a lot of opportunity, man. I mean, a lot of teams are rebuilding or have young, young guys, but I feel like we just focus on ourselves and try to max out our potential. We got a lot of great players and a lot of great players that just came in. So we got a winning culture and a great atmosphere over here. So we're excited for this year. What's your personal goal for this year? What is it? Just to win, man. I mean, last year I was struggling. I never really lost that much in a year, so it kind of hit me a lot. So dedicating myself to just trying to win, doing everything I can to be able to put my team in a situation to win. Well, I mean, but you personally didn't struggle last year. I mean, you put up rivaled numbers that the rest of your fellow rookies at the position, as we all know. So do you have something written down for your own personal goals somewhere, Chris? Not really, man. Like I said, I'm just trying to focus on the team. When the team wins, all the little statistics and all that stuff is going to be there. So I'm just trying to put all my energy into that and just trying to build a winning culture here. Okay. Do you have a good rivalry, I guess, personal with Garrett Wilson and with Jackson Smith and Jigbo and all the guys now across the NFL? Yeah, you could say that, but man, I want them to be the best they can. I know they got a crazy potential and could be some of the better receivers in the league soon. So I just want to see that. I don't think we got it right. I'm just excited for them to showcase that they don't have the level. What advice do you have for Smith and Jigbo coming in? I just told him to be himself, man. That's one of the best players, best receivers I've seen. He's so natural, he's so gifted. I just tell him to be himself and just stay away from all the bad stuff. How good is Harrison Jr. coming in? He's probably the best one, to be honest. Really? He's 6 '4", 220, he's fast, he can run routes, he can catch everything coming his way. I've never seen anything like it. He was a freshman last year, so I can't believe what he's turned into. Because that is the conversation. Obviously, so many scouts were in Columbus this year for C .J. Stroud, Chris. I don't think it was any coincidence that Marvin Harrison Jr. was running routes for C .J. that day, among the many. Many scouts came away saying if he was eligible, he'd be the guy. So you have Noquam saying he's the best out of all of you coming out of Columbus. Yeah, he's the best. I can't wait to see what he does this year. He's probably going to get double -teamed, but he probably still put up a lot of numbers, so I can't wait to see. And he's a great kid, too, so he deserves everything that's coming his way. What advice would you give C .J. going into what clearly looks to me and everyone as a starting role right from jump for him this fall? He's blessed, man. He's only 20, 21 years old, and being a starting quarterback in the NFL, that's a huge blessing. So I told him to just be him and stay humble. There's going to be a lot of ups and downs, but just stay level -headed and keep working through adversity. He had his best. Well, Chris, I appreciate you taking the call and making it right here, and I hope we get to do it more often. So in the meantime, you know, maybe we'll talk. Wow, I mean, you're bi -week. Are you going to go? It looks like your bi -week is the Michigan -Ohio State weekend. You don't go to the big. Oh, really? Yeah, looks like it. Oh, yeah. You know, I'm going to be there then. Well, it's at the big house, though. It's at the big house, Chris. It's at the big house. Oh, yeah, I'm going to be there then. Really? You're going to go back forever. So you would go into Ann Arbor and go see this game? Oh, yeah. Okay, because that's what, again, I know you take it one at a time. It does look like, if I can just figure out dates here, it's entirely, Chris, will you look it up? Is it Thanksgiving? Is that the 20th? Because it could be, you could be in Atlanta that week. I don't know. It's entirely possible, though, that, you know. Yeah, if we got to buy that week, I'm going to be at that game. Michigan -Ohio State November 25th. Yeah, you're not. You'll be in Atlanta. So here's what we'll do. Here's what we'll do. You know, that week, we'll just talk leading up to that week.
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"chris olave" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"I'm going to come to that podium, suited and booted, ready to host the jacket dinner in front of 5 ,000 individuals, many of them locals and people from the great state, a football loving state of Ohio. I will go with an open heart and an open mind and no intention to say anything. But if I'm trifled with, like last year, Nobody believes that. I'm not going to come and just show up and just wipe my feet all over their home and disrespect. Wait a minute. We did that last night. See, that's what I'm saying. There's no way. You're not going to go close. You're going to put your feet on the baby's couch. Right now I'm workshopping. Put your foot on the baby's couch. No, no, no. I'm not abandoning. I don't abandon, but you're going to have it ready just in case. You don't have a drop of me talking about Michigan like you have of this man at all. Show up. What are you doing? Yeah. And you know what? And you know why? You're not a real fan. How am I? I am passionate. I am passionate. I am irrational. I make brash moves. I say brash things in this microphone. That's what I'm feeling at the time. You're too loud. I want to be level -headed and nuanced. That's not what fans do. Fans aren't level -headed or nuanced. Are you crazy? I'm the one who's talking about Rogers and it's a honeymoon and his calf muscle that I'm not going to let it get me down. But you guys are technically playing things. I'm opening myself up. No, no, no. If you were a real fan, you would have saw the tweets yesterday of Lazar in a heap. He got hit in the Musbergers, but in a heap crowd around him. Rogers limps off. That would have set you spiraling. No, I don't need a spiral. I have a level head, but I'm still a great fan. I'm still an absolute zealot when it comes to rooting for my team. Fans don't use words like zealot. That is a good point. I can never say zealot. And towards the place, sometimes you got to do that. And then you. Talk to me. What? You're like, I'm finding a new team because I'm sick and tired of it. I was hurt, man. Can't you understand pain? I can't. I'm hurt. You're asking a Jet fan and a Michigan Wolverine fan about not understanding pain. Are you out of your mind? Two teams doing dumb stuff and losing. Just give me Dame Lillard. Put them on one of those. Are you out of your mind? All right. Even with my team doing as well as it did the last couple of years, I had to sit there and wonder if the coach is leaving. Come on. Let's get back to that guys, man. Zealot. Zealot. Big word. I don't use big words. You think fireman Ed knows what zealot means? No clue. None. The only time I ever hear zealot is religious zealot. He only knows how to spell four letter words and utter them. Even by the way, even he gave up on the Jets after the fumble. Remember that? He quit. He did. And now he's back like a bandwagon. I know. He's sitting perfectly around here. What is he doing? I am a diehard, as you know, I never turned my back on Michigan and I'm a diehard Michigan fan, which means I'm thrilled and welcome to The Rich Eisen Show, one of the best in the National Football League coming out of the Ohio State University. Thrilled to have back here on The Rich Eisen Show from the New Orleans Saints, Chris Olavi. How are you doing, Chris? I'm doing great, man. Appreciate you guys having me. I appreciate you coming on. What are you up to? What's going on with you today? Nothing much, man. Just a little training at the facility right now. We're doing an off -season workout, so just doing that right now. Okay. And how does your new quarterback look from your perspective, Chris? He looks great, man. I can't continue to work with him, continue to build that chemistry, but we're off to a good start right now. How does one build chemistry, Chris? How do you do it? Just repetition, man. Just practicing and knowing the ins and outs of guys and I feel like just over time, just over and over repetition, I feel like that's how you get better over time. Have you done it outside the facility? Had some sort of camp car anywhere? Has that happened yet, Chris? No, not yet. Okay. But I'm looking forward to it. I mean, and so what have you, can you take me in some of the conversations that you've had about what you like, what he likes, and what does that conversation sound like between a wide receiver and a quarterback, Chris? Just learning each other's body language, where you're going to be, certain routes, how you get in and out of breaks, just little things like that all add up into building that chemistry. I feel like we're off to a good start, but I feel like there's more and more practice that's going to make it a lot better. How does Michael Thomas look to you? He looks good, man. I'm excited to get back on the field with him. I can't wait to play with him. It's one of the most exciting things I was looking forward to last year, but unfortunately he went down, so I'm excited to get back on the field with him. So I'm just wondering if you, you know, did he ever reach out to you when you were in college? Did you know him before becoming a teammate of his? Oh yeah, I knew him a little bit before college or when I was in college. He always showed love when he was doing well, so he was one of those guys. So it was definitely exciting when I got drafted to New Orleans. I looked up to him in college and watched him a lot in the NFL, so I'm excited. He's my teammate. I've got Chris Olave here on the Rich Eisen Show. So your biggest adjustment from college to the pros last year was what for you, Chris? Just the length of the year. I feel like it's a lot more games, longer season. I feel like that's now I know what it's going to be like, so I can adjust to it. What about defensive backs in the league? What about that? We had a competition on Iowa State. I love competition. It's always going to be good players around the league, so I'm excited whenever I go out there on Sundays. What do you mean there was a competition? What do you mean? I'm just saying I love competition. It's always going to be good players to NFL, so it's always going to be a good player on the other side of the ball, but I look forward to matchups like that. Oh, I see. So you say from college you were used to having great matchups in practice. Oh, yeah, in practice. Oh, so you were talking up your school right there. That's what you're saying. You know that always. I got confused because you referred to it as Ohio State and not the Ohio State.
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"chris olave" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"Coming up, Saints wide receiver Chris Lovey from the new film The Machine. Actor Jimmy Tatro. And now it's Rich Eisen. Our number three, The Rich Eisen Show is on the air. Chris Mannix joined us in our number one and we chopped it up with him about how the Nuggets swept out the Lakers and what is LeBron saying when he says he needs to think about continuing to play in the NBA. And he gave us also Chris something to think about as he left the building to talk about the big woe moment that might happen in the off season that's coming up this summer. If you missed any of that, you're watching on Roku, on the Roku channel. Stay tuned. It will repeat as soon as we're done with this hour. Chris Olavi with the Saints slated to call in any moment right now amidst their organized team activities. Jimmy Tatro, who plays Bert Kreischer as a young man in The Machine, which is coming out in theaters near you on Friday, he's about to walk in our front door into our green room and then into our set for our number three. We also just had a nice chat with Lane Johnson of the Eagles. So you can catch all of that. Again, there's a podcast version of our show that we hope you subscribe to through the Accumulus Podcast Network. There's also our video collection page, The Rich Eisen Show Collection as part of our Roku channel relationship video on demand service. You can watch the full show back whenever you want. You can also watch videos and carefully go down a wormhole. The same thing happens as well on our YouTube page, youtube .com slash Rich Eisen Show. Over 550 ,000 subscribers and growing every single day. We appreciate every last one of you. Chris Brockman, Mike DelTuffo in their spots, TJ Jefferson also in his spot. What if Damian Lillard is up for grabs this summer, as Chris Mannix said for us to keep an eye on? And I know Blazer fans that would really crush them, but they've got the number three overall pick in this draft. And if they do not get any veteran return for this individual that they could draft instead to start from scratch, and trade then Lillard to grow and start from scratch. If they don't get for the number three overall pick, who's going to be either Scoot Henderson or Brandon Miller, right? Or you know, maybe Vic, we don't know. Yeah, right. So if, if the Blazers say, you know what, we would rather just burn it down to the ground, start from scratch with either Brandon or Scoot and everyone else we have here, you know, with coach Billups and start from scratch and net us an insane amount of picks and maybe some other quality young players and send Lillard elsewhere. Or do they say to somebody, you can get Scoot or Brandon and you give us a couple of veterans that we can win with Lillard right here, right now. And they say, okay, this is doable for us. We can win right now. That's the choice the Blazers have involving number zero in your program, number one in the hearts and minds of Blazer fans everywhere. Because I could just see him, you know, on a Knicks. Of course you could. And changing their entire fortune, him and Brunson as back court mates. You'll run them together? What are you going to do? You got to get rid of Randall, maybe. That's it back. Done. Done. Done. A bunch of draft picks. Dames owed a lot of money. Sold. That's the thing that some of these teams have to think about. Dolan's got it. Go over. Whatever. 33 years old and he'll be 33 this fall. 60 million a year. You don't think, let's put him in the back court when you want to send Marcus Smart West. What do you do? Jalen Brown? I'm not thinking about that yet. What about you in Philadelphia? Hey, bro, I pounded a table in 2020 for him to come to the game. It's silly for me to sit here and play, you know, like fake GM and what it would take. No, it's not silly, Rich. This is fun. This is the fun part of the job. I'm not touching Brunson. Oh, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what you say. You're going to run them together? Yes, of course you're going to run them together. Well, I'm just saying two point guards. I don't know. Do Brunson and Dame, would that collectively work? Yeah, doesn't fit. Maybe I should think twice about it before running that down to Philadelphia. That's what I'm saying. For you guys, it doesn't make sense. What about the Clips? What about your Clippers? Fine. They wouldn't want to send him east. They don't want a piece of him. No, no, no. He's going to the east. Yeah, of course. By the way, guys, I have to let you know, you know, I was thinking about just getting rid of both of my teams and it was the heat of the moment I was hurt. Spurs. I'm still, I got to wait and see how the coach situation plays out, but I was hurt. I was speaking from a point of pain, Rich. You know what I'm saying? But we've already put the Spurs banner on our meme of all of your sports teams, TJ. We can't just remove it. No, we could. You guys, man. You're like, I'm rooting for whoever gets Victor and Manama. I'm going to get that. I'm going to root for that team. And you're like, Tatum stinks. Finished. We're done. He's the worst. This stinks. I'm on a rant. Yeah, I was right at the time. You guys, man. At the time. Oh, look, listen to you. Like you don't sit there and curl up in the ball every time Michigan was getting bounded by Ohio State. You understand? I wasn't saying I'm going to start rooting for Wisconsin. Well, that's a different story. Get out of here. It's a different situation altogether. Exactly. I didn't sit here and say I'm finished. And I never, by the way, ever called for Harbaugh's job. Not once. Not once. Maybe you should have. No. No. Good job, TJ. Not at all. I mean, after eight straight Ls. Excuse me. The worm has turned. Hey, let me tell you something. You know what I'm already preparing for? Losing this year? No. Three Pete? My trip to Canton, Ohio coming up. I told you, man. All I'm just going to say is I'm going to go on that stage in Canton, Ohio, in the downtown civic auditorium or arena. Beautiful facility. Beautiful spot.
Ultraflex Football
"chris olave" Discussed on Ultraflex Football
"Special. He leaves me presents on the floor. Every day when I get home, all right? And we let him out, we take him for a while. He's getting older. What? He's getting older. He is getting, but he's been doing this his whole life. That's not an excuse. Like, he's never learned and then what happens is we put him in a crate. We were like, you know what, we can't do this. He's pooping in the house. We're just gonna put him in a crate while we put him in a crate. He like breaks his teeth and stuff, 'cause he was chewing at the bars while we were gone and then he poops. He pees, he pukes in the crate, and then he rolls in it. So we get home and he's a poop dog. And we got to give him a bath. So it's better just to pick up the turds when you come home. It doesn't even try to eat it too. Oh yeah. Yeah, sometimes you'll see like a tiny little turd and you're like, gee, I want to wear the rest of that one. Remember when my dog picked up your dog with her mouth? Yeah, that's what happens when you have a 60 pound dog and a ten pound dog in the same house. So neither of my dogs really give kisses copper dog. He never gives kisses. Maybe like twice ever I've gotten kisses from him. He just doesn't give anybody guesses. And steal occasionally well, but yeah, neither reminder really kissing dogs. You're on the 48% side. Yeah. I guess so. All right, jump into fantasy time. We're gonna do a little stardom sitting for I can't believe we're already at week four, almost a quarter of the way through. I guess that's different now because we're what 17 games. But my start at quarterback this week is going to be someone I probably wouldn't have guessed to start the year. It is going to be Marcus Mariota. And it's solely because he has, in my opinion, some of the better young weapons in the league. Cow pits, finally got the ball a little bit last week. Calling for him to get the ball, the previous couple of weeks, and then I said that the rookies are down, the exception to that is Drake London, Garrett Wilson, and Chris olave and Drake London happens to be on the falcons and is having a monster a year. And Cleveland is a bottom third past defense so far. I think there are ranked 20 seconds. So my start is Marcus Mariota. I have something to support that that sounds pretty wild, but would you believe that the second highest over runner of the week is Cleveland at Atlanta?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"chris olave" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Straight trading backwards from 12 to 32. For what they got. And for what that point of the draft was, because look, you could say whatever you want about drafts, but they always have tears. And there had clearly hit a point in that draft, was there was the one awesome receiver left, even though he was coming off the ACL injury. And then you had two more really, really highly regarded defensive players, and they were going to go in some order, 12, 13, 14. And I just don't understand why you would trade out of that, especially when all of these teams wanted receivers and what you saw a la Vega, you know, what just with the saints paid just to get him, I didn't get that at all. I still don't understand it. Yeah, that was one that was certainly a little bit perplexing, especially trading with a team in your own division in the Detroit Lions to make that move. I like who the Lions went up to God. I like their strategy in general. Now, that's not to say, I don't dislike who the Vikings ultimately selected and they thought that there was some value there in making that move. Louis scene is great. I just think you have to get if you're going down 20 spots, I have to get a first round pick back. That's the history of the draft. That's too many spots. You're going from top 12, we're about to drop off, I need a first. That's the price to do that. And they just didn't get it. Well, there are certain GMs, and I'm not saying the lines team has been there for a while, but there are certain GMs like the Vikings GM. First year guys in the door and some of these guys are not getting the right type of value as they should on some of these trades and GMs like Howie roseman are taking advantage of them and some of the other GMs around the league, taking advantage of some of the more youthful, less experienced GMs that are looking to make moves. And in general, like the common thought processes, you gain value by trading down. Like it is a plus EV move because you're going to get extra picks in doing so and the draft is so difficult to hit on a specific player that having these extra arrows in your quiver will provide more upside, big picture. And that's why generally speaking, you do get more value in doing that. But the Vikings move, I agree, it was one of the more perplexing trade downs based upon what they got in return. Well, especially during the year when the receiver getting the receiver on The Rookie contract was like the new inefficiency because of how crazy the receiver prices got. So even if the lines have to wait, I don't know. To a week 11 for Williams or even next year. It's still worth it. If that guy's a number one receiver, you see that. Exactly. And if you look at the wide receiver run, was basically ended there after crystal lava, like the last guy on the board that was viewed in the same class at the top of the first round is Jameson Williams. After that, it was like Jahan dotson and treylon Burks, who obviously, I believe, the run on wide receivers pulled them up the draft board as well. No question. Nobody thought that John Dodson should be going 16 overall. And yet he was because if you need a wide receiver and all the other guys have already been picked 12, what are you going to do? So that's why those guys got shifted up the board, but that pick at number 12 had so much inherent value at that time. The value increased over that pick as soon as the saints took Chris olave at number 11. Yeah, and that's why I didn't get it. And that, you know, I don't go crazy, but oh my God, I can't believe they took this guy here, but it was just so clear that we're about to go crater. One last thing on the rest edge, you said, since 2015, teams that had a legitimate rest edge, 92 of this is home favorites of three to ten points since 2015, rest edge. 92 and 38. Straight up, 70, almost 71%. And then against the spread at 70, 58 and two. Those are real numbers. Well, those are not only real numbers, Bill. Look at the comparison when you talk about equal rest or rest deficit to see, does this actually matter? I will tell you this. The NFL tries to say that this is a minor thing. This doesn't really matter that much. And so if that's true, we should be able to look back at historical data and that's why they probably don't want to look at the point spread element of it. But the point spread is the equalizer that we need to factor into context. So you had equal was 45% and if there's a deficit, it was 40.8 against the spread. So we went from 54.7 to 45 to 40.8 if there was actually a deficit. Those are real numbers. Those are definitely real numbers. And the reason I'm segregating out home favorites of three to ten points is because we want to look at the team that is viewed as better. The better team in general should have more of an advantage if they have a rest edge. They should be in a better position because think about it like one of the reasons you guys end up doing pretty well, you've got a great coaching staff. You know how to prepare the players if you have a short Thursday game, you know what needs to happen? Whereas an inexperienced coach or a bad coach may not know the right strategy to get this team ready for a short week road game on a Thursday night like Belichick does. And so looking at home favorites of three to ten points generally we're talking about this team is viewed as the Betty market as the superior team and double digit favorites are generally speaking terrible, whether you're gonna look at, rest edge, not rest edge. So you could include them if you want to or you could take them out like I did is really not gonna do a make a difference to the general comparison which is these teams that are viewed as the better team by the Las Vegas betting market when they play at home. If they have a rest edge, they're covering the spread almost 55% of the time. If they have equal rest, it's down to 45% of the time. That's basically a ten percentage point differential. And then if they have a deficit, even though their viewed is the better team, they're down to 40.8% ATS. As you said, real numbers. These are things that are different speakers. Different major digital especially with a tease too. If you're getting, if I know I get 55% to cover this straight up, then I know you hate teases, but you're never going to make me a house quit. If I get that on a teaser number, that maybe that's up to like 75%, something like that. Just to win the game. Easily. And I think the difficult part for somebody listening to the show right now is, okay, so you're telling me these numbers, but how do I know you told me the big picture rest advantage? How do I know on a per game basis during the season who's got the rest edge? Because most of you already know. Most people aren't sitting at home like running these calculations. What I will tell you is I am planning on this year in the book. The 500 page book for every single team chapter on the very first page of that team's chapter. I'm going to tell you every single week if this team has a rest advantage or a rest disadvantage in that game. And that.
The MMQB NFL Podcast
"chris olave" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"And the saints hop up and get Chris olave at 11, which we did sort of the thought experiment during the mock draft series if they take a trail on Burks or Drake London or someone like that, that probably means they are ready to move on for Michael Thomas. Chris saleve seems like more of a compliment to Michael Thomas. Yeah, and that was speaking of player tweets. I mean, Michael Thomas applauded the initial saints trade with the eagles. And so maybe he perhaps he knew something that we didn't. All those Ohio State guys just talk to each other all the time, you know? Whether it was Chris O'Leary for Michael Thomas or Albert breer, you know, they all just, they all just gossip, you know? It's all hanging out and Albert's basement probably. Watching the draft in his rumpus room, perhaps. The Lions jump up to 12 to take Jameson Williams. I thought they, I thought this trade was really good for a couple of reasons. One, they didn't give up a ton to come up 20 spots. And on top of that, look, they want to sort of open up this passing game a little bit. If you want to see if Jared Goff is the guy or not, he probably isn't. But, you know, you want to give him a shot. Jared Goff had been in a highly schemed offense in LA. I think he was a little too conservative when he arrived in Detroit last year, but he sort of shook that off as the year went on. Well, now you got some big play weapons for him. Jameson Williams is one of them. Obviously they brought in DJ shark to go along with amanra saint Brown. That's a really good trio there and Jared Goff gets to show if he can once again establish himself as a franchise quarterback. Yeah, and to backtrack for a second, we totally botched the Chris olave pronunciation on our last show, but so did whoever announced the pick in the draft this year. Yeah, they said olave this year on TV. Like I did. But just letting everybody else. But so a couple of interesting things about the Lions pick. First of all, spent the whole combine hearing a lot of people rave about quasi, adolfo mensa, the Vikings, new general manager. This was a weird deal, right? The Vikings traded their first and second round picks, so 12 and 46 to the Lions for their first second and third. So 32 34 66. I mean, in a draft where it seems like the fall off was 16 or 17 in terms of talent. I think you gave up a lot and really didn't get a whole bunch in return. Yeah, it was a bit of a head scratcher, but everyone's bored is different if you thought the strength was, I don't know, 32 to 50, maybe it makes some sense. Maybe, yeah, maybe you feel like you need a couple more guys there, but the Vikings seem like, I mean, this is not a team that can just, you know, they're not like the chiefs where they can just hen peck around the edges here and just like pick up guys who fall to them. I mean, they need a lot of help on both sides of the ball. So I thought that was a little bit surprising, but jamison Williams to the lines. I mean, if I were Jameson Williams, probably wouldn't be that thrilled, but if I were Dan Campbell, I would be because this is such an organizational vote of confidence in you. Like they're treating you the way Brad Holmes is treating you the way that less need has treated Sean mcvay, which is pretty incredible. The commanders who had moved down from 11 to 16 end up taking John dotson out of Penn State and it's a nice pick. You get the sort of the speedy deep threat to go along with Terry mclaurin here. This to me was the sign that it was like, uh oh. There's only one left. If you want trail and burkes, you better make a move right now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, datsun was like the music playing during your Oscar speech, you know? It was like oh boy. Interesting stylistic compliments, right? I mean, we talk about that a lot on the show, but Curtis Samuel, Terry mclaurin, and datsun, does that fit what Carson Wentz does best? I don't know, do they care that it's what Carson Wentz does best, you know? At this point, I mean, did they kind of view him as a one year solution to their problem anyway? I don't know. But I also didn't think that was their biggest need. I don't know, very curious night for the commanders, I would say. So far. Very curious off season for the commanders, one could see. Yeah. And then obviously trailing Burke's to the Titans at 18 with the pick they got in the AJ Brown trade. Whether you're buying a new car or used one, it's a big investment, which is why you should choose Pennzoil platinum. It helps extend the life of your engine and protect it up to 15 years or 500,000 miles, whichever comes first, guaranteed. That's because Pennsylvania base oil is made from natural gas in 99.5% free from engine clogging impurities. The proof is in the Pennzoil. 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Listen to out of the shadows as part of the microtubule podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go to the top of the draft because that's usually important. The Jaguars do indeed go with travon walker here. Later in the first round, they traded back into get Devin Lloyd, the Utah linebacker, versatile guy. So a couple of really versatile defenders joining their nothing on offense though. We do know they address that offensive line to an extent in free agency, but yeah, I don't know. What's your feel on walker this way? I mean, this is, this feels like the riskiest first overall pick in quite a while here. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Would you say, okay, this is going to get clipped and taken out of context. So every four seconds, I'm going to say, don't clip this and take it out of context. In the middle of my sentences. But is this, is this the most potential potential only based? Number one overall picks since JaMarcus Russell. Because you're betting purely on potential with walker, the production wasn't there, you're hoping that what you bring him into can turn him around, turn him into a star. I'm looking at the list of number one overall picks. Trevor Lawrence, Joe burrow, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield miles Garrett Jared Goff, James Winston, Jade and Clowney. Eric Fisher, I think, is different. I've heard 2013 to 2022 comps for the draft. I don't really think that. I mean, I think 2013 was just a bad draft. Andrew Luck Cam Newton Sam Bradford Matt Stafford. Maybe Jake long. From Michigan, maybe Alex Smith, another guy that you'd have to use so correctly. Maybe Courtney Brown. Maybe this was like a Courtney Brown kind of pick, too. It's a little bit, look, you could say it's a little bit clownish as far as the lack of production, but Clowney was just such an off the charts, just physical specimen coming into the draft. It reminded me, at least the news cycle leading up to it, and maybe that's the only comparison you can make here. It reminded me a little bit of 2006 when the Texans had the first overall pick and for months, the conversation was, well, Reggie Bush, but maybe Vince Young and then all of a sudden three nights for the draft. It's, oh, it's Mario Williams. Okay. And then that ended up obviously being the very correct choice. It's a little like that, I guess, but Williams is so much more productive on the collegiate level and also just again in the clowny mold as far as the physical traits go. And walker was probably the best traits guy in this draft, but I don't even think he was at the level of those two guys. I will say this and I think the Devin Lloyd trade up sort of hammered this home as well. Whatever they're planning to do defensively, it's gonna be, you know, it's gonna be a little bit. Let's just say it's gonna be multiple. That's a really lazy way of putting it. They want guys who can do a lot of different things well is what you're looking at here. I do think Aiden Hutchinson in the end, I think is a wide 9 pass rusher. And that's what he's going to do with the next level. I don't think there's another way you can really use him. Ron walker obviously you can move around a little bit. I know it's kind of a, you know, it's like, well, he rushes on the inside and that's it. Oh, that's all right. You can brush them on the inside. You're fine with that. Get in third down movement inside. There you go. Yeah, I mean, if you had the chance to take Aaron Donald at number one overall in that draft, you might have done it, right? Because that was the that was the other draft that this reminded me of because that was the Khalil Mack Jade young Clowney, Aaron Donald draft, right? And so in Khalil Mack was a little bit like walker and that he kind of really got pushed up the board late and then I remember former boss Peter king actually advocating for him to go number one overall a couple of weeks before the draft and everyone was like, what? You know, like nobody was thinking about Khalil Mack at that point being that kind of guy. But it was a situation where the defensive coordinator that was inheriting him had to use him in the right way. And this, I think, will just forever be the biggest gamble in Trent balke's thought process here, right? Selfishly, you're gonna have to legitimize this pick, but so much of the pick success rests on the ability of a coach who doesn't share your brain, you know? And is he going to be able to use him the way that you're trying to get him used? And is it going to look the same when you're not playing in a defense that just set the record for the most players on one side of the ball being taken in the first round of the NFL Draft? The other storyline in every draft ever held quarterbacks. Number one overall pick in quarterbacks. That should really just go on every podcast outline. Just the one quarterback, just Kenny Pickett going to the sealers at 20, the Steelers don't have to jump up. They just sit back and have their choice of all the guys, and then everyone behind them said, we also don't want a quarterback. So the Steelers take Kenny Pickett guy, they're obviously very familiar with. Even though, I mean, are they going to play with a smaller football this year? Are they going to let them throw like a hockey puck around the field? I don't know how this works. His hands are just too small, Connor. They're going to let him. I actually took one, I took it out of my son's hands like a couple hours ago. We had these little baby footballs. These little rubber baby footballs that you get when you put a quarter into the machine at the grocery store. It's like, oh, they're just gonna look Kenny Pickett Kay with the baby football. Yeah. I also just point out, like, you have a, you have a very young child in the house. She's literally the floor, like choking hazards? Like Connor? Yeah. It was probably a bad idea to buy him like a gumball machine football, but you know, he's swallowed and eaten larger pieces of food, so I'm sure a football had passed in a few days. Fair enough, fair enough. You make it work. But yeah, so old baby hands picket, being the first quarterback off the board here. Here's my thought process on it. If any other team besides the Steelers took him, we would have been like, what on God's greener, especially in the northeast, in an outdoor stadium, we would be like, what a God's green earth is going on. But it's the Steelers. And Kenny Pickett will probably play there for ten years and he'll be pretty good. And that'll be that, you know? I mean, they're just a well run organization. And well run organizations can do with the Steelers did, which is ignore the decline of your quarterback for far too long, and then just sit there 20 and just be like, you know, whatever, whatever happens happens, we'll take canny picket if he's there, if nope will take somebody else and we'll make them good. So we touch on the jets here. Really nice night sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, who, if you're not gonna get deebo Samuel, it's kinda like Garrett Wilson, is your next best bet here if you're the jets. And then obviously they come back in the first round, get Jermaine Johnson. A guy who, I mean, look at a lot of people thought he was a top half of the first round lock and he ends up sort of sliding down. I do want to talk about the giant draft, which, you know, it was a little bit, you know, by the board, a little bit chalk here, but I mean, they end up landing two guys here and came on thibodeau and Evan Neal that you just feel really good about. Yeah, and I think what's interesting too is a player who I don't think the Giants would have taken a year ago, 5 years ago, ten years ago. I think that they've always been fairly conservative when it comes to players who let's just say like, you know, the Tom cawthon regime especially, like, right? There's that matrix of like if a player is ever mentioned as having like some sort of like an outlandish personality or, you know, is more expressive or there's the rumor that he doesn't love football or whatever. Like that player almost always traditionally got lopped off Tom Coughlin's board, right? Or by extension, Dave gettleman's board because that's how Dave gettleman spent a lot of his formative years. And so I think that this is a chance for them to finally. Since Jason Pierre Paul came and left, they have not had that complete package in terms of tools at the pass rusher position, right? They've kind of just had guys, right? And they had to overpay for people like Olivier Vernon to make up for that. But now they have pure tools like intense speed and bend and quickness and power and this is something that is very foreign to the Giants. Over the last 5 or ten years, let's say. Indeed, indeed, I want to make one real quick point about K mount thibodeau and then I want to hear your Evan Neal take because I know you're a huge Evan Neal guy, but one thing I should have brought it up during the mock draft show, one thing that kept on coming with thibodeaux throughout the draft process because I just keep on watching them and be like, you know, I don't think Hutchinson or walker are generational prospects by any stretch of the imagination, neither is thibodeau, but I just don't know why he's not in the conversation with those two other guys. And one of the things that kept on coming up was like, ah, you know, not a lot of ankle bend is kind of limited type of thing. Like, he played last season on a bum ankle. Doesn't that doesn't that count for anything? Doesn't let playing on a severely sprained ankle factor into your assessment of someone's ankle bend? Yeah, it's pure laziness. And it was cool. You know, I did a story inspired by obviously a great idea that you had for our draft preview issue. And I got to talk to a thibodaux pass rushing coach that he had that he worked with during the pre draft process. And he had these slow motion videos. And I guess a lot of people look cool in slow motion. But the things that thibodeau was able to do with his body, like they have those dummies that stick their hands out and mimic like an offensive tackle. And he was like, he was like, it was like a ripple. He was almost like liquid, getting under his arms. He just does it so fast and he's just so fluid and he's got this array of moves. And I just think he's a really great, cool, fun player. And I think he'll be, you know, as long as the market doesn't just shake the enjoyment in the life out of him. I think he's going to be, I think he's going to be a good addition. That defensive line looks okay now. I mean, you know, it doesn't look great. I mean, Leonard Williams is still not going to happen. It's still not a thing, but it looks okay now. It does. It does. And you love Evan Neal. Oh my God, yeah. I put him number one in my mock draft. And it was funny. I feel today an inspirational pre draft phone call from former boss Peter king, who called, it was very nice and called just to wish me a happy draft. And we were talking about the number one overall pick and what we thought might happen. And he said, Connor, Evan Neal's not going number one. He's like, he's like, you need to understand that. And I was like, no, I will not understand it. And I held out hope that he was going to go number one. It was like 30 seconds before the draft. And if I did not have to assist in some kind of calamitous parenting duties at that moment, I was at my computer tweeting Evan Neal number one. Here we go. I was ready for it to happen. I think he is just a badass natural left tackle. And now he gets to play on the right side, so he doesn't have to, you know, I think he'll come out strong. He's gonna have a really good first year. And you know, Trent balke, you know, just you're gonna see what you missed out on. All right, we've arrived at the miscellany of the show. The potpourri category. I'm just gonna, I have three takes, I'm just gonna throw out and you can make them what you will. You can also throw out your own takes. Maybe we just saw a yell at the same time and see how it comes out. But I really, I love what the use in Texans are doing. I'm totally on the same wavelength of everything going on there right now. Obviously, but I love the Derek stingley pick. And again, I don't wanna like, I know we played two seasons after his freshman year. I don't know if he really put forth the kind of full force effort the last two seasons that maybe you wanted to see out of him. But I think there's a really likely scenario that Derek stingley ends up being the most valuable player out of this draft class. And there was all this talk about the top ten. Which was just nuts to me. So I think taking him third overall was just a tremendous and then kenyon green is another guy who was kind of being mocked outside the top 25 and that's sort of stuff, but if you want like a tone setting guard, maybe they play him a tackle, but you know, probably a tone setting guard here for a team that, you know, if you already have 17 running backs on your depth chart, the Kenyan green is the guy you get. So I love those two picks and obviously the Texans also picked up some draft capital moving down from 13 to 15 before they took green there and yeah, big night for Nick kasaria. Yeah, I would say if there's any if there's any person that you think can get the most out of a prospect who may have lost his way. It is text and super character coach Jack easterby. But no comment on that. But yeah, no, I thought it was a good night. Does this qualify, by the way? I said if the Texans got anyone that could directly help, love you Smith, run his defense, I would have to, I would have to fill I would have to buy, well, I guess the Texans had to buy me the pool, and then I had to float around in vanilla pudding. What did I say? Vanilla pudding was the only real solid thing we settled on with that. We're gonna have to get some sort of behind the scenes video of Nick asaro being like, no, no, no, we gotta take, we gotta take Kenneth walker here. We need another running back and love you Smith banging the table and saying, no, I need Derek stingley. That's really the only way you do it. And plus we said we do it same night as well, which, you know, just logistically, it was gonna be difficult to pull off or confirm that we had to pull it off. Oh, well. I think I have a little vanilla pudding upstairs, but you know, enough to fill a pool, question mark? You can eat that vanilla pudding in that would be a good compromise right there. Close enough, yeah. Kobe dean falls out of the first round, a little bit surprising, you know, the packers, packers do not take a receiver. I don't think he necessarily blame them based on based on the board, but I was still surprised that quay walker, I know a lot of people expected it. I was surprised coy walker went and Nico badine didn't, as our Albert breer reported the other day, there is some medical stuff going on with dean, that sort of added up that maybe scared people off,.
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"chris olave" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"And take the receiver. This is a nice, a nice night for the Jetson giants from that standpoint. Yeah, I mean, Joe Douglas had as good of a night as a New York GM has had in a really, really long time. I like their draft slightly better than the Giants. And then to come up and get Jermaine Johnson to while he was slipping down the board was good. But yeah, I mean, they're leaving absolutely no excuse in a very important value to our year for Zach Wilson. And the saints hop up and get Chris olave at 11, which we did sort of the thought experiment during the mock draft series if they take a trail on Burks or Drake London or someone like that, that probably means they are ready to move on for Michael Thomas. Chris saleve seems like more of a compliment to Michael Thomas. Yeah, and that was speaking of player tweets. I mean, Michael Thomas applauded the initial saints trade with the eagles. And so maybe he perhaps he knew something that we didn't. All those Ohio State guys just talk to each other all the time, you know? Whether it was Chris O'Leary for Michael Thomas or Albert breer, you know, they all just, they all just gossip, you know? It's all hanging out and Albert's basement probably. Watching the draft in his rumpus room, perhaps. The Lions jump up to 12 to take Jameson Williams. I thought they, I thought this trade was really good for a couple of reasons. One, they didn't give up a ton to come up 20 spots. And on top of that, look, they want to sort of open up this passing game a little bit. If you want to see if Jared Goff is the guy or not, he probably isn't. But, you know, you want to give him a shot. Jared Goff had been in a highly schemed offense in LA. I think he was a little too conservative when he arrived in Detroit last year, but he sort of shook that off as the year went on. Well, now you got some big play weapons for him. Jameson Williams is one of them. Obviously they brought in DJ shark to go along with amanra saint Brown. That's a really good trio there and Jared Goff gets to show if he can once again establish himself as a franchise quarterback. Yeah, and to backtrack for a second, we totally botched the Chris olave pronunciation on our last show, but so did whoever announced the pick in the draft this year. Yeah, they said olave this year on TV. Like I did. But just letting everybody else. But so a couple of interesting things about the Lions pick. First of all, spent the whole combine hearing a lot of people rave about quasi, adolfo mensa, the Vikings, new general manager. This was a weird deal, right? The Vikings traded their first and second round picks, so 12 and 46 to the Lions for their first second and third. So 32 34 66. I mean, in a draft where it seems like the fall off was 16 or 17 in terms of talent. I think you gave up a lot and really didn't get a whole bunch in return. Yeah, it was a bit of a head scratcher, but everyone's bored is different if you thought the strength was, I don't know, 32 to 50, maybe it makes some sense. Maybe, yeah, maybe you feel like you need a couple more guys there, but the Vikings seem like, I mean, this is not a team that can just, you know, they're not like the chiefs where they can just hen peck around the edges here and just like pick up guys who fall to them. I mean, they need a lot of help on both sides of the ball. So I thought that was a little bit surprising, but jamison Williams to the lines. I mean, if I were Jameson Williams, probably wouldn't be that thrilled, but if I were Dan Campbell, I would be because this is such an organizational vote of confidence in you. Like they're treating you the way Brad Holmes is treating you the way that less need has treated Sean mcvay, which is pretty incredible. The commanders who had moved down from 11 to 16 end up taking John dotson out of Penn State and it's a nice pick. You get the sort of the speedy deep threat to go along with Terry mclaurin here. This to me was the sign that it was like, uh oh. There's only one left. If you want trail and burkes, you better make a move right now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, datsun was like the music playing during your Oscar speech, you know? It was like oh boy. Interesting stylistic compliments, right? I mean, we talk about that a lot on the show, but Curtis Samuel, Terry mclaurin, and datsun, does that fit what Carson Wentz does best? I don't know, do they care that it's what Carson Wentz does best, you know? At this point, I mean, did they kind of view him as a one year solution to their problem anyway? I don't know. But I also didn't think that was their biggest need. I don't know, very curious night for the commanders, I would say. So far. Very curious off season for the commanders, one could see. Yeah. And then obviously trailing Burke's to the Titans at 18 with the pick they got in the AJ Brown trade. 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"chris olave" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"The eagles once again, we just had them taking Jameson Williams. I just want to talk about the defense real quick because Jonathan gannon did not do a whole lot of blitzing last year. This is a team that was very blitz a verse, especially early in the year. They kind of rolled it out a little bit in spots as the year went on. He was also, I thought he did a perfectly fine job. I thought he had a solid first season's defensive coordinator there. Boy, it seems like a lot of eagles fans would disagree with that sentiment though. Houston Texans interviewed him for their head coaching job. I mean, which is not. As a wait a minute, is that a good thing? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? 'cause they also never mind. I think they interviewed a lot of Chick-fil-A GMs too, but so I don't know. I think there's a really good edge rusher on the market. I think that they went Hassan Reddick, which sort of tipped their hand on the Witten Hassan Reddick in free agency, and I think that's sort of tipped their hand on what we know we need. And Brandon Graham now is 34. And it's going to be playing on the other side there. And as good as he's been for you, you know, Fletcher Cox is getting old. I think you're going to need some pop there on that defensive line. I mean, Carlos, this is available, or, you know, because to me, I view like Trent mcduffie is a bit of a reach still. I think he's a back end of the first round guy. But I don't know, I could be, I'm ready to be, I'm ready to have my mind changed. The only other person there I could probably see there is maybe Dax hill, we've heard the Malcolm Jenkins comps there and it's a player whose stylistically fit really well and did some good things and Philadelphia for a very long time. Yeah, for that reason, I always like Dax hill in the spot, but I do like the thought of when they won the Super Bowl. It was that front four and that front four is getting up there specifically Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham who were really the stars of that unit. So I think Carl lathis makes a lot of sense here, even though you have retained Derek Barnett and you've brought in Hassan Redick. If you are a team that is going to rely on playing a lot of coverage and need to load up on guys who generate their own pressure. Yeah, I think Carla is fit that mold. Bing bong is one would say, there goes George Carla. One of my favorite players in the draft. So that was number 18s the eagles three picks to go. We have another repeat here, the saints. We just had them taking the quarterback in Matt corral and look, they're staring down a bunch of pretty good receivers at this point in our exercise. Yeah, Chris olave, man, Drake London is still here. You know, if you're thinking about building around Mike Thomas, then Drake London probably isn't your guy. You know, so I like some of the other guys that could play off of him. In an offense like this and man, there's some fun guy, there's some fun players left on the board here. Trailing Burks is still there. Chris olave, I'm happy if I'm the saints based on how this shakes out. So thrilled with the trade up that we all panned..
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"chris olave" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"So we have been talking for about 20 minutes, probably more than about a half an hour about what the Patriots might do sort of their options in the first round. And we have not talked about receiver. I noticed that in your mock draft, you have guys on the clock at patriots picking at 21 when they trade down. You have the chiefs taking Jameson Williams from Alabama. You have Chris olave from Ohio State going to pick after. Then the pick after that, you have Johann dotson from Penn State who can play slot. I think when people see this, they're probably going to go jump off the Tobin. Ahead of time. Look, I know people know from listening to me. I'm not reaching for a wide receiver. I think the Patriots are what I like to see them get better. I just think you can do it later. Get somebody with some upsides, some speed, a speed element, you know, maybe a slot guy later on in the draft. All these drafts are deep and receivers just Belichick asked to decide to pick one once in a while. You know, not like Nikhil Harry, but sort of, you know, what's your thinking about not taking a receiver, trading out for a receiver or even taking one at 21 and letting the chiefs get Jameson Williams, the packers and Aaron Rodgers getting crystal lava and Kyler Murray getting Johann dotson. Yeah, and so I appreciate that that might be relatively inflammatory for fellow pats fans. I hate what the hell are you doing? And you know, I want them to have that talent on the outside too, right? But I just don't think it's in the necessity for them to do that given where they're at right now. I think the one guy I would consider at 21 or they'll consider a 21 is Garrett Wilson if he was to fall. I don't expect him to be there. I think he's the best wide receiver in the draft. And maybe Drake London from USC, but he's more of a bigger guy and we've all seen that script recently. So I think that I don't expect him to go wide receiver. I think that the guys that we talked about if they fall, which has happened, right? They didn't expect when they were 21. They didn't have the will for it to be there. And they made a difference. So I think that there's a chance somebody falls and maybe we're not expecting. I think I don't love picking linebackers in the first round, but I think there's two, maybe three that make the impact. That's why referenced Lloyd and I've talked about dean in the past from Georgia. But I think they'll likely look at D back and if they take a cornerback or they take hill at 21. I think it's because they have some conviction on them. And they could, you know, they could have two or three guys there and say we're going to move back 8 or 9 picks and gambled at one will be there. If they stay and they select the D back at 21, I think patriots fans should have some feel good about that that signals that they have conviction on the player they like them..
New England Patriots Press Pass
"chris olave" Discussed on New England Patriots Press Pass
"What the NFL scouting combine in full swing on Wednesday, a lot of news and notes and regards to the Patriots and we start with meetings. Yes, combine meetings, probably the biggest part for teams now in Indianapolis other than the medical evaluations that their team physicians do in India every single year is meetings, getting face to face with their personnel execs and the top draft picks in the NFL Draft in 2022 and the Pats are doing their homework on this wide receiver class. We've already reported on the fact that the Patriots met with three of the top wide receivers so far in indie and Ohio State's Chris olave, Alabama's Jameson Williams and Arkansas wide receiver treylon Burks on top of those three. We can also add to the list more top prospects out of the wide receivers meeting with New England and Alabama's John metchie who played with Mac Jones at Alabama and had a great rapport with Mac during that national championship season in 2020 and Kentucky do it all gadget wide receiver Juan Dale Robinson also confirmed a meeting with the New England Patriots brass in Indianapolis. So you have pretty much every top wide receiver prospect in the draft telling reporters in indie that they have met with New England at some point in the process. This goes on the heels of a lot of rumors connecting the Patriots to trade targets as well, such as Calvin Ridley, the Atlanta Falcons, and at this point, although this could just be smokescreen for the Patriots and we should mention that these meetings come with a grain of salt. This is a fact finding mission in Indianapolis. The Patriots are doing their due diligence by talking to all these wide receiver prospects and just because they had a meeting with them at the combine. Doesn't necessarily indicate that they are interested in drafting that player in April. But still, the Pats are kicking the tires on every available wide receiver. And at this point, it would be shocking if a legitimate wide receiver impact type of player at that position was not brought in by Bill Belichick this off season. We also heard from former patriots offensive coordinator and current raiders head coach Josh McDaniels, he was asked a lot of patriots questions at the podium today in the convention center in Indianapolis..
Patriots Beat
"chris olave" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"You've got a big guy who doesn't play big, even though Nikhil has the frame. He just doesn't play at that size. Here's the crap out of me for the Patriots trail on Burke scares the crap out of me for the Patriots. Love them. Love birx as a prospect. I think he's gonna be a good player someplace else. So let me ask you this. If olave is not there and Jameson Williams is not there, do you now skip do you now bypass the position? I think a wider 21 at that point at 21. The other guy that I would really consider at 21. So there's really four guys in my mind right now, but the Patriots were to draft tomorrow that I would say, if you think that one of these guys at 21, I'm good. And that is trend Davis, the defense tackles from Georgia. Andrew junior, the corner, the Clemson, Chris olave, and Devin Lloyd. Those four guys, I think are players that if they take any of those four players at 21, I think they're a great picks, right? Home run picks. Anybody else they take in 21? I'm trading after the pick. So that's it. That's the best value you're going to get is those guys. You're not taking your trading back in stock. The way I view it is that everybody else that they could get at that spot. If it's not one of those four guys, I'm assuming all the other consensus guys are gone to Kobe dean, all those types of players. If you're not going to get one of those four guys at 21, then you're getting into a tier of players that are all eventual NFL starters, but not instant stars, right? Not guys that you're drafting to be instant contributions to your football team. If you're going to get into that muddied area there of developmental two to three years starter type players that have high upside, then there's really no difference at that point of taking them at 21 versus taking them at 33 or 34 or whatever the case may be. So I'd much rather trading back and having more bite that Apple. Give me two second rock picks at that point and maybe a third or fourth to throw in there to try to get another one of these guys and just be stuck with Trevor penning the tackle from northern Iowa or someone like that. Kyler Gordon, you make Shay took in his mock for the Patriots. I don't really see a difference, honestly, on day between a guy like Kyler Gordon and a guy like keir elam from Florida. I think you can carry on 15 picks later. So what's the point in taking Kyle Gordon at 21? No, I mean, it makes sense, but obviously there's, you know, there's nothing that drives fans more crazy than watching people trading out of spots. And they can't get one of those premiums. I know. But no matter what Evan, you know how this goes, it gets to 21 and there's a bunch of Burke's packers out there and he's still out there and everybody's freaking out. Take him..
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"chris olave" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"If not multiple flaws, and look at. I mean, you can make the arguments when Trevor Lawrence was playing his best football. Clemson was pretty loaded, okay, it's it's not like he was playing with a bunch of slobs. Yeah. I mean you look at these quarter but I mean Ohio state had some pretty damn good weapons, Chris olave. It's a really good wide receiver off and so you know we can go through all of it, we can talk about Justin fields and and the progressions and all that stuff and some of the questions about him, you're going to have certain questions. But you've got to look at the strengths as well. And listen, I said this before, the Patriots picked them, I've been saying it for the last couple of months. I do watch a fair amount of college football during the season and I like dog. Mike Jones. I was saying, I liked Mike Jones before he started to become flavor of the month last month or so, I think that he's a good quarterback. I think he's extremely smart. He's extremely accurate. He takes care of the football. Like you said, Greg, he manipulates the pocket with his feet. He can go north, south east west. He's not a supreme athlete, you know, he's not a supreme athlete. Okay, well, that's fine. You got to take the flaws with what he does. Well, and the idea of not having to move up to get him. I agree with you all the talk about Justin Fields, seems like it was a smokescreen wage. I think, Belichick knew he didn't want fields and you know, you gotta give credit where credit is due whether you love Mac, Jones, like them don't like them. Belichick read the board. He knew he needed a quarterback. He obviously liked Jones because he's not drafting a quarterback in the middle of the first round unless he's a legit quarterback. This you know Belichick's not going to reach for a quarterback at fifteen. He's just not going to he would have traded down numerous said, okay, well we like Mac Jones in the twenties, we like Mac Jones at twenty-five know, he stood there and waited at fifteen and said, no, we think he's good enough to use this, pick on him right now, and you've got to give Belichick credit because a lot of people, I saw it, you know, a lot of the pundits off the experts screaming and squawking that Belichick should move up, you gotta move up and get your guy ESPN as soon as it gets a Dallas at 10 was like, oh, you gotta start moving up, you got it, you know, Foxborough is going to be off on. Nope. He read the board, right? Mac Jones was his guy. He knows that he needs a quarterback. He felt like he was good enough to be drafted at that slot and he didn't move anything else. Didn't have to give up any assets so whether you like them, love them, hate us, Belichick read the board correctly tonight and did not give up anything to get his guy. I agree with that a couple other things off Jones, it's just interesting. That the only quarterback that Bill Belichick's on person was Mac Jones. So I think that's interesting and I don't know, that could be just a coincidence. I think they were leaning on Josh McDaniels a lot in this process along with, you know, Ziegler and and, and wolf and a couple of other guys, you know. But here's here's the, let's just give the other side of the coin on this because I do agree. He read the board perfectly..