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Trade Deadline Call-in Special

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Trade Deadline Call-in Special

"Hey Emily Greg so. The center of the United States Hockey Universe is edina Minnesota according to our in-depth tear like coverage this week as we ranked different hockey hotbeds crunched. The numbers got it down to Minnesota being the center of the US hockey universe and Edina Minnesota being the center the center of the US Hockey Universe thus opening up to the world the raging debate that occurs in Minnesota each day about how Diana is a bunch of quote. Rich cake eaters and They don't deserve this accolade because it will just make them more egotistic. This is what I've discovered this week in doing. This project was going to ask you. If you're a more surprised that a diner came up number one on your list or that it was pronounced the Dinah Not Edina I thought it was Dina forever. I think I've actually met women named Edina that it was spelled that way a very old women by the way DNA not necessarily in the Zeitgeist. It's you know if you find a lot more Madison's in middle school today than you a Dina's come back. Yeah we should bring it back. Yeah I was. I was surprised with that and also Unsurprised that one of the wealthier communities in Minnesota may also be one of the most active in the sport of hockey. It's still a very expensive sport. Play ball say this the education that I got in doing this project I give full marks to places like Nashville and Anaheim. That made our list Vegas. That made our list for like the growing hotbeds. Didn't have room to put Tampa on there. But they deserve shout and The top five like centers of the hockey universe are only five so we left out Places like Pittsburgh That is certainly established Dallas is verging hop at the point of the thing and the point of this whole week of hockey in America coverage that we're doing on ESPN and if you haven't seen do check it on ESPN DOT COM sports. Really strong in the states right now man like they're only five. Us markets According to the numbers provided by USA hockey where the park the total participation numbers youth plus adult plus officials plus rafts has dropped in the last three years everywhere else. It's it's it's above average and it's it's surging and a lot of places so it was kind of heartening to see how much sports grown. Yeah my big takeaway. Was We hear that girls hockey one of the fastest sport growing sports in America but to see a lot of the places where even if it hasn't grown overall the women's hockey programs are booming and they're multiplying like crazy and that is huge growth. Though that's exciting for me in the future absolutely. Yeah it's it's all good stuff. It's all good news well except for you know Buffalo Detroit but that probably has more to do with the fortunes of their NHL teams than it does anything else. As far as the community goes. There is a certain correlation between success on the Ice and success around the community when it comes to hockey just ask Washington about that and also Washington's and other good example of not only do you have to have an exciting product that brings more fans to the game. But it'd be helping the community if you built a few more rinks the minute that the capitals put a ring on top of a parking garage at a mall in Arlington Virginia. About fifteen years ago was the woman went. Hockey started to really explode in that region. You had a new place to play and so you look around at Anaheim you look around at Nashville. You look around it at Vegas. Look at Seattle Ray sheets of ICE. Yeah and the having a place to play is important as having the desire to play what was your takeaway from that Seattle piece. Yeah you know I knew for some time that it was a bustling scene. You know we knew that the interest was there from how quickly they drew up. Season TICKET INTEREST But there just hasn't been enough ice. Usa Hockey says there's at least five come from sheets of ice coming in the next couple of years and they could rise at six or seven and that would be huge And Yeah just Seattle. You know the way they're doing things is a little bit differently and you know we know so. Many different franchises or tackling hockey is for everyone but they really are making charter. Diversity and accessibility are in the forefront of everything they do so that to me is pretty neat. Sounds like hockey in. Seattle is really cracking these days crack crack and get it. 'cause kraken standardized. Is this week something different? No guests well kind of guests several guests you listeners. We ask you to hit. Some trade deadline worries concerns proposals. What have you ruin a play a few those calls in the show today a special? Nhl Trade deadline pre edition post addition. Of course will be done with me and I'm leaving we're in Bristol on. Espn is plus all your favorite still headlines and like all that and more on this edition of ESPN and Islip show proper. Shelly is to your ear buds. A podcast about hockey featuring things to do with hockey from your friends at ESPN ESPN on ice with Shitski. And Kaplan yes it's ESPN and is there. It is the podcast. Espn talks about hockey attempts. To talk about hockey. I'm Greg Rishon Skiing here. Nhl Writer Mentally Cavalier National Reporter. And I'm really excited for today's episode Greg Because Ryan Matlock are tireless producer. Has Been Calling these calls. And he's as a bunch of you called in and we have no idea what you said. So we're going into this totally cold so I feel like we just gotTa Start Flying Blind. Exactly we did one call in show in both of us were in Bristol once it was glorious I'd say seventy five percent of the calls weren't our friends which was good sixty six thirty right. Shut up Mario Lemieux but this time yeah we put it out there on the on the twitter and thank you for participating in our reindeer games. hopefully one day we could do a full on live show again because that was a lot of fun but anyways for the Trade Deadline Ladies and gentlemen let's begin with our first caller. Hi Emily Greg long time listener first-time caller Followed up on those trade than like questions. So my question is I am a New York Rangers Span watching a lot of folks in my phantom try and rationalize potential Chris Kreider trade and then resigned in the off season. Type deal which I feel like. It's probably not gonNA happen for a lot of reasons so my question is just. How realistic is it to think that it's Any team would trade or To think that a team would trade for any player and then resign them in the off season or is this just another fantasy. That sad hockey fans like to indulgent. Feel better about their team. Being bad Can't wait to hear your response. Thanks plea right. It's definitely aspirational to want to have your cake in Edina Minnesota and eat it too an Edina Minnesota and that's what the Rangers would be asking for if traded Chris Kreider and let's be honest. He's been the number one guy in everybody's list when we see some of the prices that we've seen in these traits so far we know he can command command more just a first round peg probably a first round pick and a top prospect first round pick and a second round pick third round pick. You know there are some situations where I'd say. I'm not sure that's going to work. And if he leaves he's out the door he's not coming back one of those examples. I think of as Robin Lehner in Chicago He wants to stay in Chicago and I feel like if Chicago gets rid of him at the deadline that kind of opens it up for him like hey this summer to see who treats me the best. Who's going to give you the most term who's GonNa Valley most of the number one goaltender Chris Kreider on the other hand? I'm not quite sure where he's thinking is I know. He's really comfortable in the New York area. He trains in Connecticut and his off season. He's been in New York Ranger for a long period of time. You know his agent is currently negotiating with the Rangers and depending on how those talks go. Maybe this is something that they opened up like. Hey it doesn't work out with this deal. Let's see where it goes. And we'll leave it open but it's never guaranteed. Yeah and I think the prevailing wisdom around the league right now is that there is an opportunity that he's going to stay whether it's like. Emily said through returning to the team afterward. Or what have you because the more you look at where the Rangers are in their as a contender and the more you look at what the Rangers have as far as the youth in th in the organization. The more you think to yourself five more years of Chris. Kreider is pretty much what this team could use Chris. Kreider is don't grow on trees the ability to do what he does on the ice that power forward game that he brings going to the net scoring thirty goals. That whole thing like that's an attribute that a young team could certainly use and it's not like Kreider not going to be in his prime for the next few years so it really comes down to I think. Contract length is the issue. I don't think the Rangers want to give him eight years and I don't think they necessarily want to give them seven years. I think they prefer to give them five years. But Chris Kreider. You're like wait for this opportunity all my life. I'm going to get as many years as I can. And more power to them. It's his right to do so. It just might not necessarily be in New York. That's the issue but for the Rangers are as a team and quite frankly as a devil's fan. I'm a little jealous. I think that's Chris. Kreider is something that they should actually hang onto even though as we've seen in this market already emily. The Price Tag on Chris. Kreider would be substantial at this deadline. And you know the last thing I'll say is there's two contenders at a three contenders that I really thought were on him. The Blues the Bruins and the avalanche the blues. They think are out now. The reports are getting from Vlad. Tarasenko make it seem like he's going to come back at the end of the season and I think just replacing boom user trade. The ads are desperate right now. They've got a lot of injuries and I could see them really upping the price to get them. And then there's the bruins Richard as of a wild card. We never really know what us when he's going to do exactly. And if we know anything about the Bruins Kinda like this. The capitals are constantly adding defensemen at the trade deadline and the bruins constantly adding forwards at the trade deadline. Let let that be known. That's just sort of go all right who we got next Ryan. Hello Greg and emily. It's your favorite west host. Ducks Fan made his own homemade chili last year. Just because I can't watch duck talk to you anymore and we remember you. Why do people look at the duck this year and the sleeper teen deadline? Do you really think that Bob Murray would actually move Andrei Tasha or Josh Manson. And if he did what is the return? Look like for those guys. Let me know what you think. Is it a hockey move? That futures move. Is there any reason that need to be a Dustpan or should I abandon everything that I believe in? I look forward to hearing what you're saying. I look forward to eating. Were my own homemade early. I have time to make it and I look forward to hearing this on the PODCASTS. By by I find it interesting. That Josh Manson for whatever reason is the guy that people WanNa send seal team six into rescue from the ducks twenty eighth. He's got a modified. No trade makes four point one million dollars a season through two thousand twenty two and his value is at basement bargain levels right now because he's not had a good season. It's a weird team. There's things that if you were looking to kind of vulture. Pick away from the carcass. There are a number of guys that you might be interested in. But I don't know how many of them are actually going to move other than a little little pieces here and there off this roster. Of course the other two are kind of Fascinating Ryan. Miller ever wanted to leave the Orange County as a deadline. Could help somebody. And then you know the Minute Ryan guests love says all right ready to Chase Cup again somewhere else. Then I think people would definitely be in the Ryan gets off business for sure. But we haven't heard any peeps on either of those fronts. So I'd be shocked if either of those happen and it's another name I'd keep an eye on derrick grant He's you know veteran's minimum seven hundred thousand dollars. He's an expiring contract. He's a you know he's a guy that I could see some team throwing a fourth round pick for so he might be a guy that I see ends at the deadline and helps on the way ducts. Don't necessarily have the pool that the La Kings have as far as prospects the much renowned prospect they had gotten. It's gotten deeper thanks to Foley trade with. Who GETS YOU IN A bit? But eighth overall in the Chris Peters pipeline rankings earlier this season Trevor Zegers a great a prospect for them So the the future is brighter than than it is for most decent decent and it should be while you're in California and especially in so cal not so much here in the bay area where depending on where you drive. In twenty minutes you can go from being a ninety degree to a sixty degree day in the middle of a fog bank metaphor for the shark season. But right right WHO's next. Hey Emily Greg this is Pete Linski calling from Lansing Michigan. It might not be the most popular opinion. But I think it's time for the Red Wings to trade away tyler for Tuesday what do you think? Wow that's popular indeed. I mean I I would feel that sort of part of the solution TYPE DEAL LOOK SOBER. Tuesay is in our FA. This summary makes one point four million. The thing about Steve is Roman. That's fascinating is that he is someone who is taking over a team that clearly is team does rebuilding in transition but has shown in the past in his time with Tampa Bay lightning that he's not afraid to flip a good young player. Four other kinds of help. I mean the one of the most important trades that he made during his tenure Tampa was the Corey conquer for Ben Bishop Trade. Where conquer was having a potential calder trophy season with lightning and then he traded him for this guy. Ben Bishop with the time was not beneficial and ended up being one of the bigger trades that they made so he's he's shown bolt in moving younger pieces and obviously when it comes to the younger pieces on the Red Wings. They're not anybody. He had a hand really in drafting. So the idea that a Mantha or opportunity could be moved isn't out of the question but I mean twenty-four-year-old putting up forty points in plan the kind of style that plays you figure. That'd be the kind of thing you want to keep around. Yeah when I look at this roster I think there's three untouchables in my opinion. Del Mark. Obviously not going anywhere. Anthony Mantha. I don't think should go anywhere. Tuesday would be my number three. What was that Mike? Green Green is not going anywhere because nobody wants to even buy them. Look when I look at for Tuesday and I think when I went to Detroit redwings training camp in September and news late September early October and they were playing this aggressive. I'd never seen a training camp with that much energy in physicality and they were really getting after it and this was divisor men and the players really trying to set the tone of what type of team they want to have in the future tyler. Brucie's play fits exactly into that identity. He's a high energy player. He's got great he also has hands. I don't think this is the type of player. They're trying to turn around that said because he is under team control and is twenty four. If someone wants to throw the book I think he is all open to any ideas right now because he knows his teammates an injection of talent. And he's been very careful about not assigning a timeline of when they could be competitive again because he does. It can be a very long time. Yeah yeah the Red Wings are an interesting team and I think they're more interesting in the summer when they're gonNA start clearing away salary through Tana cap space this summer and they also have a ton of artifice might wonder you wonder how many of those guys like in that situation is you might clear out and then you know the recruitment process is going to be very interesting. Reisman too like they. They're gonNA go young or they're going to be talented but I also think that they could be a team that could be in the market dabbling for an offer sheet at some point if he wanted to dabble in this dark. Dark Arts. Yeah we'll see about that although the listen as I was looking through the list for this summer and put it this way emily. We had a lot more fun last year than we are the summer. The one thing that redwings do you have some decent draft capital of all their first round picks next couple of years to second rounders this year to third rounders this year. So they do have some stuff to play with indeed All right right. Who's next hey guys Chicago BLACKHAWKS FAN here. I would carry us to what you think. Diglas glass talks should do at the trade deadline especially involving goalies given They're using about eleven million and go for gold and cap space and for Robin Lane. It's GonNa want seven million the summer at least and he's still gotta say Corey Crawford as well so I was running if you've got stuff that they should make moves with goalie guidelines. If if anything else those thanks all right well blackhawks. I the one thing that I'm pretty confident they should do. And we'll do is move Marcus Thompson. they should have moved this summer. When is the value was higher and they had a defensive logic anyway but Seeing the prices these defense getting. That's the guy they should unload. As it pertains to the goalies. They have a really big decision to make summer. Do you WanNa go with Robin Lehner. Who is younger and arguably more talented than Corey Crawford right now or do you stick with the devil. You know and Corey Crawford and stay loyal to him my inclination that they want to go to rob Atlanta. It's just an issue of Term Robin. Lehner feels like he's proven himself and he deserves that long term contract. Are they really comfortable doing that? I know this is not answering any of your questions of what they should be right. Now you know. I mentioned earlier to the Rangers Fan. But I do think that it's one of those things of keeping Robin Lehner in the door. Keeping him under your site and then keeping those negotiations going they can be the first in line to sign him in the summer. And there's something to be said there if a team like let's say Carolina wants to throw a first round pick pick at a top prospect Stan. Bowman should listen and and you know. He knows that he is decent contingency plans on goalies. But I don't see them moving quick Crawford just because of the way this organization does things. They're very loyal. Corey Crawford has no movement clause. He would have to sign off on the trade and I don't get the sense. He wants to go anywhere. My best guess is that they'd keep both guys but then again Stan Bowman surprises all by signing Lesnar. Like the last couple minutes of you know the first day of free agency over the summer so I wouldn't be shocked if he's you know last minute of the trade deadline deal for him to go to a team like Carolina Colorado in division that would be really crazy trade. It would be. But I don't know this is this is complete projection right. But don't you think? Designer might production. Greg this complete projection. This is this is this is. This is almost gas lighting. Lehner is the kind of guy who if Stan Bowman said to him and said look. I'm going to move to Carolina because they're going to give me a first round pick for you my team. My team needs all the first round picks can get. Fly Away a little Birdie but come back to Chicago and I'll do you right A. D. Right with a two year deal or something. This lehner seemed like the type. That'd be okay with that because I feel like he is. I don't know maybe there but I just don't know I just feel like he got completely screwed by the islanders. Stan comes riding in being like even though he stayed loyal to them with that NECK TATTOO. He will know what is that. Maybe he's not that guy next to a that's a bad tattoo like we haven't talked enough about how that's a horrible to Long Island. We we both know the Long Island pretty well. That's not Yeah Jersey. Looks like a Beautiful Little Little Bean and Yeah Illinois the same way and New York is very identifiable highland just looks like a child drew it. Weird Tat. I am not one to judge the tattoos. I have tattoos. I'm sure people judge mind. Artists objective artisan behind beholder and he believes Long Island. Looks beautiful on its neck and reminds going to say like I. I don't first of all no one's tattoos and secondly you don't have long island on your neck so I don't what's the best save of probably Texas right like that's a really? Yeah I've seen a lot of California tattoos that's pretty good to agreements from New Jersey are put New Jersey. I've thought about getting New Jersey Tattoo like because I've thought about actually going with like devil's horns on at some point but that was very very brand Greg. It'd Be Very Jersey. I'll tell you this right now like if you run them if you're you're if you're from Colorado how much would it sucked to get like tattooed because people would just look at it and be like what is that? Why owning like all those states around that area look the same don't they? They do lead symmetrical. It's very true it is a rectangle or close to being square in some cases. Right right. Who'S NEXT? Hey Emily and Greg My name's Don I'm from Canada and I have a trade deadline question. What's the deal with all these insiders like all these teams or it doesn't intense time at the trade deadline? They're trying to make moves. They're trying to talk to other thirty other. Gm's and they've got Elliot's Friedman or danger taxing them constantly and they're all answering him like. Why did they bother answering it? It doesn't make any sense. They could just text each other directly entitled the Middleman. I I've always wondered that you see them on the Trade Center shows and they're Nice. They're typing away on their phone and they always all this information. I don't understand what the teams are getting. That's it thanks so much. Have a great show. Well all right I got the answer for you. Who's it's an information currency exchange? I always remember if there's somebody talking. There's a reason they're talking and there's a reason they're talking to you and usually everyone has an agenda and you always have to keep better the back of your mind so usually when you see information leak. It's because the leaker has an agenda and maybe it's because they wanNA trade. That player may because they want to drive up the value Maybe it's for misdirection. Whatever it may be is usually agenda attached indeed and also the insiders need to gather as much information as they can because they literally have to be on the air for seventeen hours on trade deadline day and going to be too trades because they all happened already. Yea Get ready for the Derek Grant Derby we got next question about the maple leafs If your call do this Do you try to maybe sell Tyson. Barrie at the deadline Give us a USA after the season and he doesn't seem to be able to handle the pressure of playing in Toronto Or is that a a ludicrous idea for team. That's competing to get into the playoffs and might not do so this year and then just in general Do you think that there would be wise for him to stand pat at the deadline or try to go out and get big name? Essentially and Given that Morgan Riley might be out until the second or third round growns X. Caveat was awesome. I well first of all I I think it would be good for them to add a defenseman. The cap considerations for this team are legion. Which makes things a little bit tougher? I would agree with you on on Tyson. Berry not necessarily having worked out the way you hoped I mean he is will as one point five goals above in right now according to evolving hockey which is pathetic. So but if you're going to move them you move them into hockey deal for some something that could come back the other way. That will fill that role as best. I can and I'm not quite sure what that would be and frankly as a USA. You're kind of looking at at moving into a contender. Potentially which made broaden the field a little bit but also make things a little bit more complicated for the leafs because the person that you'd WanNa bring back might be a vital part of whatever they're doing so I guess long story short is if you could find a deal with a contender where they've got an offensive defensive. Plays the right side. They don't want any more than make the deal. Outta here. Can't go to hang onto him. Yeah I think my main thing is. This is a team with cleared defensive deficiencies and I understand. Tyson Berry has not been perfect. And there's not been everything they had imagined and hoped he would be. But he's him better than a lot of their replacements. They're looking at either with barley elsewhere. So I think as this team is so important for them to make the playoffs this year. Hey maybe it's just been in endgame where they don't WanNa get a seat where they matched up against the bruins trying to get a you know place at whatever they're trying to do they just need to get in and I think Perry at this moment gives them the best chance to do. It and Kaplan is pretty low. It's not like he's the one that's weighing team down right now. We'll talk about Morgan Riley. And a bit but leaves for sure Have any more calls? We Have Ryan. This is the last one do it all right. Gregg it emily Cats Fan really frustrated. Eleven and eleven since Christmas basically. So I'm GonNa go with sending Richard Panik and Nick Jensen to San Jose for Brandon. Dillon and melker Car Carlson. Hopefully that solve some issues there and then as far as the Olympics go. Why don't we just not stop play? Call up people from the AHL get guys experience get guys playing in situations that they haven't been able to play with because veterans are taking our spots. What's going to happen if somebody goes to the Olympics and gets hurt anyway? You'RE GONNA have to replace him. Why not do it early? Thanks bye bye well. Obviously Emily this call made before the blockbuster deal between the capitals in the sharks that bought I mean good foresight fire boy second round. Pick in two thousand twenty conditional. Third Round Pick and twenty twenty one to the sharks are Brennan Dylan. I think you'd have to ante up a bit more to get melker. Karlsson at of that deal all due respect to Richard Panik and Jensen The Olympic question was interesting. I don't think there's much of an appetite if at all for that From either side to be quite frank one when you look at the players. It's not just the Olympians that want to go to the Olympics. The Nod Olympians. Want the Olympia to go to the Olympics. Because there's nothing. They love more than a two week break in the middle of the season when they get to go to Cancun. It's amazing everybody so like yes. It'd be great for H. L. Players get called up. I just don't see the players association agreeing to this and as for owners. I think they would see that. There would be a dip in revenue and it is a disruption to the season because it's not the actual NHL season and it really then becomes. I just think there's too many complications here. His question was interesting. Because I don't know if I've ever heard the owners answer that that question. Yeah No. You're right. I'm kind of just speaking on my no. You're you're you're you're you're point but I I just find it intriguing and all this talk of like well. We don't want to shut down season like I don't know if any of US virgin con kind of went them and said well don't the and what does that response ultimately. If it's that we think are revenues will decrease because our star players. Aren't there. Well I mean how many season tickets have you sold? I mean those those. That's already there. Are you worried about your walkup? If you're worried about your walkup will then decrease the ticket prices while the guys if the Olympics like make it more accessible admits that you're going to see a diminished product. But get more people through the door dollar hot dog night. Who cares like I find it intriguing? That IF THE ARGUMENT IS SHUTTING DOWN. Our season is disruptive. Don't shut down the season. And then it'll probably be well letting all of our star players go is disruptive competing against the Olympics is disruptive. And then we're right back at square one which is trying to use it as a CPA bargaining chip which sucks good calls. Everybody thanks for participating in a reindeer games. Let's get into some of the stuff we didn't really talk about Tyler Toffoli. Emily traded from the La Kings. The Vancouver canucks for Tim. Schaller Tyler Mad and the two thousand twenty second rounder and a conditional two thousand twenty two fourth-rounder if he resigns with Vancouver. This trade took out a different dynamic. We realized Brock vestry was going to be up. Potentially for the rest of the regular season. What did you think about to fully to the canucks? Yeah I love this trade. If the conducts thing that they're making a run for it this year. The connector does trying to get in the playoffs. This is a total overpay for just seeking into the playoffs and being a one and done. I think he makes our team better. No doubt I just thought the price was a little too rich to give up a prospect as talented as they did and ver- just as much uncertainty that there is in the Pacific Division. And I find it fascinating that Jon. Benet is still open to making more trades. He clearly wants toughness in the lineup. It sounds like they're still in on Wayne Simmons and to me sounds like GM who is trying to make moves to save his own job. I like to fully though. I think it's a good good pick up for them and and I also understand. He's making moves to save his job but I also like the idea of the connects trying their best to make the playoffs this year. I know a lot of expansion like why mortgage the future for for today. One get in and who knows what happens with to like it will exponentially help the maturation of guys lake like Patterson and Quinn Hughes to culture. Yeah and a winning Culture B-be also understand you know how the pedal gets pushed down in the playoffs and understand that dynamic and and the intensity of playoff series like there's a million reasons. Why just making sure you make the playoffs. This season will be beneficial for the thank connects beyond the idea that that Jim Benning could potentially save his job. But I agree with you on that one. It was sort of that little desperation. Move Andy Green goes to the only place he'd probably go the New York Islanders for David Quenneville because the double just keep on getting these Quin Villes not the right one and two thousand two thousand twenty one second round pick which perked up a lot of eyebrows because Andy Green not exactly a rookie in this league andy. Green Was Of course. Signed as a as a undrafted free agent by Lou Lamoriello. He's now thirty seven years old and the islanders the for the season he's Ufa second rounder for Integrion. A little rich but there is you know there's a lot of reasons. I like this trade Andy. Green is at home defenceman. He's played under Lou. Lamoriello coached teams in the past. Or you know manage teams in the past. They're not going to ask them to do anything he can't do already. He just further you know bolsters their identity. And that's a good thing that said the price is especially rich when you consider that Andy Green controlled his own density. He didn't no movement clause which meant that management had come to me like Andy. Where would you be comfortable going and Andy goes well? I'd like for my family to stay in the area and not have to move to teams and these still figured out a way to do it again. A second round pick. That's incredible jamming by Tom Fitzgerald. Who went into this situation? Not Knowing if he had the full time job he's an interim GM. And I think right. Now he's making it really hard for devils ownership not hiring for the full time job because this was masterful and the Blake Coleman was again masterful. Yeah let's talk about the Coleman thing because you you mentioned you thought it was a pretty severe overpayment. I did not severe but I did find it to be an overpayment for you know. This is a talented team and I get it. They want to win now and they think they're window is this year and next year and Nolan might not fit into that and their first round pick might not fit into that and Coleman does this is the guy that's never scored more than forty points in his career. I understand that he's having a High Energy Player. But like can we look at past performance? Move on Jilin. Danilo traded from the Ottawa. Senators to the Winnipeg jets for third round. Pick good good move. Great Move Onward Move. I mean the jets. Pick up a really good defense men from an analytic standpoint who plays defensive demand game the interesting thing. Here was the outcry from some people in Toronto. They're like why couldn't you trade a third round pick for the mellow like well first of all because Ottawa's not looking healthy out second of all you don't even have? Yeah exactly yeah. I think it's all about the trading partner here on the runway Alec Martinez Venerable. Bob Mackenzie says that discussions were ongoing as we started this podcast between the Vegas Golden Knights in the La Kings for the services of Alec Martinez. Who has another year on his contract? After this one was told by some King. Sources that yeah. He's he's definitely gone by the trade deadline so we can expect to be there to be some Alec Martinez Trade. But as these defensemen all start getting dealt and as we start to see the prices of these defensemen You start to wonder what the what the market is going to end up being Three first round takes potential surprises. There's been a lot of scuttle but then you enter that Jeff. Carter could end up back in Philadelphia depending on the health. Oh Yeah I think. That's the key is that you know all season long. Chuck Fletcher has been like but we're GONNA get Nolan Patrick Back. No one patrick will be like our own trade deadline acquisition. Now we're at the trade deadline. And because it's such a nebulous issue. It's involving his head. It's chronic migraines we don't quite know and if he's not coming back. I feel like there needs to be a move to be made because they were all in on getting lean video for this group because they felt like they were ready to make. The playoffs needed a season guy to make the playoffs. They WanNa make the playoffs They'll need some guys to do it. And the only thing that I do know from Chuck Fletcher though he keeps saying he wants to make hockey trade and he wants guys. That's still have term. He doesn't want just a one and done. Jeff Carter is under contract with twenty twenty two five point seven five point two seven two seven two seven which is the capital psycho to that deal. Carter crazy to cap friendly Good versatile forward can play wing COMPLA- center and and obviously is a known quantity too many of the flyers that are still on this team and also many a people around Philadelphia so that'd be a fun. The other interesting one. Montreal is a tough nut to crack. I think they could still be a pretty good hockey team. As long as you're not playing Detroit and then you have a lot of assets that In talking to some sources around the league they're all kind of waiting to see what Montreal becomes if they could become a seller. Now you're talking to tar four point eight million through two thousand twenty one. Now you're Talkin Geoff Petrie five point five million for two thousand twenty one. You're talking the possibility of Max. Don't me potentially moving as a restricted free agent if somebody wanted to go and then pay a premium for him? Kovalchuk obviously is is a name. That's going to be out there although I did talk to. Somebody this week. Who said that? The connection that coble chuck is found with Mark. Berge van in Montreal should be something that he doesn't take for granted. He has been more motivated in his played. Better in Montreal all that anyone could have anticipated and that could be a fit that that he would relish the only thing that Canadians have to think about it. Okay that's a wonderful fit and we love him for seven hundred thousand dollars but he planned for that next year. What'S HE GONNA ask for this summer and does that fit in our plans. It's an excellent point and also how many years he wants to get it for so we'll see what happens there but yeah the Katie ends or the real wild card here. Do you see them becoming movers and shakers and sellers at the deadline. Or do you think they're going to be a delusional. I think there could be cautious sellers to muster Tara. I don't think they WANNA move him but he's got an extra year of term if someone wants to give the deal. That Detroit gave to Vegas two years ago for Tomas Tatar. They've got an ally. That was a ridiculous deal. Jeff Petri is a guy. I don't think they should move. He's only making five and a half million dollars. He's under contract for next year. Yes the package for him. Could be quite good. But who else do they have in the defensive group that can eat those minutes up especially when we don't quite know about the long term health of Shea Weber. So that's a guy that in my opinion they should keep there. You Go navid shavers you know. He these his career might not be over despite previous. I understand like they're on the cusp right now with the playoffs that I don't know why the team hasn't put in the white flag like look. It's not happening us for this year. It's just not. Let's figure out the best way to be competitive next year and let's not play Shea Weber and put them in some bubble wrap and sent him to Mexico and on a beach. Here's ladies and gentlemen. It's the latest edition of Sach. Got Your number. Hey Greg and emily how the maple leaves and flames mortgage their future. The leafs and flames are tied for the fewest of their own draft picks remaining. How many of their own picks do they have for twenty? I'm guessing he means the season. I'll say they're seven rounds. They've got four. I'll say they have three. I'll go look good. They only have three of their traffic fix left however to their credit at least they've traded for some low rounders to build themselves up. I guess sorry about your leafs Greg. Greg believes leafs during that site when I think he might have but at least fan. I pick them to win the Cup this year. Remember Oh okay Gotcha Gotcha do. But that was. That was an interesting one. I will say that my my victory today may break the longest period of time between wins in a PODCAST GAME. Show segment in podcast history. Because I see you so big win for your boy outside favorites segment of the week. Phil Kessel hot dogs. No he does not love to eat hotdogs. We get sad and straight hair is good. It's Phil Kessel. Hotdogs look at the mistakes the hyperbole the bad takes spicier non spicy that pervade the hockey media each week that two of them this week. It's hi emily. Let's go remiss if we didn't mention the take that we just referenced in talking about Shea Weber. Which was Nick Prius? Who is a I believe? Still looking for a GIG. After getting the laid off sports taking to twitter and saying quote sources say Shea. Weber's injury sources say Shea Weber. Injury has a season likely over and his future in question told. Injury is related to foot. That was surgically repaired in two thousand eighteen while waiting for swelling to alleviate in further confirmation surgery seemed unavoidable going into this week so His season likely over in his future in question that was on February Twelfth Weber of course returned to action this week Less than a week after caprio mentioned this which is kind of embarrassing. Curios took to Instagram to follow up and say to Shea Weber the Montreal Canadians Organization last week. I had a tweet to further advance. The story of his injury while I was able to properly identify his injured foot. Good on you doctor. And speak of the swelling wallet awaiting further cooperate confirmation. It was not my intent to mislead anyone about his immediate future but above about about after time to reflect. Understand portions of my tweet. Edit UNCERTAIN UNNECESSARY STRESS. Touche his family and a team. Why still stand by the information that I received? I'd like to apologize to Shay Acadians for choose not choosing my words with more sensitivity so I stand by my reporting that his career might be over but sorry that I said it in short the other winner of Phil Kessel dog this week. Steve Simmons the Creator Phil Kessel as hot dogs with his reporting on Phil Kessel who has decided to dance on the grave of a playoff team. Which the the Maple. Leafs are still. Even though they got blown out by Pittsburgh this week this is a paragraph in Simmons's column and for all the develop. You know where this is going folks for all the devout followers of analytics who laughed with Glee when the modern thinking dubus was named as GM like two years ago by the way ahead of Lou Labyrinth and here comes mark. Hunter ask yourself this. What exactly did analytics have to do? With getting drubbed in Pittsburgh on Tuesday Martin. Marin was out of position onto power play goals and Freddie Anderson coughed up. One on another couple things. Expect every old school media guy in. Toronto. Who Lost Bart Conner as a source and is booed face about a child having fired. Mike Babcock to do this very thing in the near future to Martin. Marin San is playing on this team on his defense right now because Morgan Riley is injured. Morgan rather top defensemen Morgan Riley. Who is their most important defenseman workaround? You might be one of their most important players overall out of the lineup since early January. That doesn't get mentioned until several paragraphs after we reference the loss of Mark Hunter and Frederickson. Coughing UP A goal on a power play. Let's see here. I'm checking my math. Abacus out go moving things over here all right and Oh yeah has absolutely nothing to do with that Olympics and in fact one might say the leave struggles like every other team in this league that struggles is completely tied. To the fact that they're goaltending has been hot garbage for a month that links. Now it's time for PUCK HEADLINES DATELINE Air Force Academy the Assistant. Ad Of Air Force Academy. Emily through some shade at fans. Who didn't believe left early enough for the stadium series game on Saturday night? If you if you read our coverage of it fans were still entering the stadium in the second intermission. Having just gotten to the stadium because of parking and traffic problems basically said that they should have left earlier. I I thought the people that left for what should be a one hour trip and budgeted three hours and then it took like four and a half hours so it was a mess. The other part of this emily. That's kind of disturbing. Is there was a fatality that affected the ability of people to leave the stadium? There's only gates into Air Force Academy. One of them was shut down. Adam pruitt thirty one died when he fell off a bridge at eleven PM. Just west of the academy's northgate. It's I saw the police investigation as I left the game. Actually around midnight no details on the death but if you are not affiliated with Air Force Academy and you were walking around this campus at this time and you're leaving through the northgate on foot. I mean this is complete speculation but I'm guessing this is somebody who maybe walked the game and left their car someplace else potentially so we'll see how this whole thing shakes out but that was definitely not just my speculation when we heard about this unfortunate fatality and condolences addams family for this loss but just ugly situation all around this game which otherwise was was actually a pretty good event. Yeah Everything he thinks of itself as the worst traffic sitting American I had no idea it was Colorado Springs. Actually was number one but no it. It does seem like there was some poor planning here and they didn't just account for as manage traffic or the flow of traffic. Whatever it may be a hate that a damp and debt because the optics of the game were cool. Were like you were there with it. It was the obviously. The third period of the game was a lot of fun because it was a tight game and as much as I shaded the whole sitting all of the air force cadets behind the goal gave them potentially the worst seats you could possibly give anybody at the stadium series games where they can't see a damn thing. It was really cool because the players walked through them to get to the rink and the players. Were telling me that. When you're in a stadium series game or an Eric or when a classic you feel so separated from the fans because of where the rink is where the stands are that to to go down that aisle in high five the cadets and stuff was really cool on top of obviously the the respect that they all have for for those who serve so. That was a pretty cool aspect of it. Sucks that all this stuff? I'm sorry like don't shave. The people that left at three o'clock for a six o'clock puck drop. You know fix the traffic mess. Dateline Raleigh. Thank you and I are going to have to have a knife. Fight gets the cover. This one. The Stadium Series Kevin North Carolina Baby. Nc State will host the stadium series game next season the Carolina hurricanes against what we expect to be the Pittsburgh Penguins at NC state. Is that what it is now? It's the pens well the the capital's denied that their team and the heavy speculation is that because of the regionality of the penguins fan base and the penguins do bring more than a few fans Carolina Hurricanes Home Games. Did it could be the penguins on top of the Jim Rutherford connection between the hurricanes and the penguins. How many old Hartford whalers we get this game. Ron Francis will somehow involved. I promise you you know. I think it's cool and I also wonder if the cats are not involved because they're leading up. It's probably not going to be this year but next year for a European game in Russia which I think will happen. I don't think it's happening this fall. But it'd be the next fall after that but yeah kudos to the Raleigh. I know that they campaigned hard for this with the city. I think it'll be awesome. The tailgating scene is going to be ridiculous and they won't have to worry about quite as much traffic issues because my mistaken that the NC state football stadium is right in the parking lot of PNC arena. So it's not any different than there used to directing traffic just more people that sounds right European game in Russia. Do you mean outdoor game or do you mean just a game no the European series whatever they call it globe series. Oh man because I was thinking I'm still waiting for them to pull an outdoor game out of their pocket for one of these European markets. Yeah let's go red square where Putin plays or I think. Putin plays where everyone where Putin wants to play in Red Square. Stick the oilers in that outdoor stadium in Germany for dry seidel. They tacked place outdoor game. It'd be amazing. Datelined Buffalo scale of one to ten. How screwed is paper throwing Buffalo Sabres general manager? Jason boy the hits just keep on coming. We didn't mentioned earlier because he wanted to mention it here. The Montreal Canadians Traded Marcos Candela to the Saint Louis Blues as j Boo Mistress Replacement. And pull the second round pick for him so to review Jason Botterill in a package to the Minnesota. Wild traded a third round pick for scandal. He traded scandal to the Canadians for fourth round. Pick the Canadians. Then traded scandal operate. Second Round Pick also the reason that scandal was traded from the Buffalo Sabres to the Montreal. Canadians was so that Jason Botterill could clear some space to trade for Michael for leak who has a negative three point. Two goals scored above average and has been hot garbage for Buffalo. So yeah I would give them a one. He's in super trouble in Buffalo. Yeah we've alluded to this. I think there are some offseason changes especially as it comes to the management structure in Buffalo. Honestly what would not surprise me at? This point is if in the next two years. We see Ralph Krueger on the management side of things instead of coaching side of things. Maybe both but that's a name that I would keep an eye out for and I would keep an eye out for them. Potentially you know I know. They've denied it but hirings in between the GM and the ownership but maybe there's someone already in the organization that ownership trust that they have in mind floated. This idea puck soup. And I'm in love with it now but Christopher Rian Danny Briere Co. Gm's come back. Save the day in Buffalo the Gresh. That'd be amazing. I don't think there's any way that the rangers leading Chris Drury go. I think they would buy. Do you think that the Rangers Would Fire Jeff Gordon and a second if they found out that jurors GONNA get high risk somewhere else like we'll take your jury? Ooh I don't know that's a good question but yeah jury is someone that they're they're gonNA hold onto. As long as they can. Dateline the Hart Trophy. The android sign now has a thirteen point lead in the art. Ross race having a gun on US goals a point scoring binge with connery. David out of the lineup emily. There's this cement dreidel as the Hart trophy favourite now that he's doing that Hart Trophy thing of scoring points even with the other guy out of the lineup I think so he's right around the same pace that Nikita Kucherov was on last year and I just love the stat if he has five point is the next two games. He's going to be the first player to reach one hundred points in sixty one games or fewer Mario lemieux in one thousand nine hundred ninety six ninety seven or Jesse. No was it a little bit of a different time in terms of the way guys scoring points so Yeah I think he's got to be the favorite now but native McKinnon's Nakata's doors like hey man I've got nobody to play with and I might drag the same into the playoffs myself. Mackinnon MacKinnon still is the guy I mean. God He is. He is nearly forty points. Clear of the next highest score on Colorado. He's been incredible and it's only going to cement itself if they don't get any scoring helping us out the rest of the year I know shaded dry side. I had people telling me dress was a better heart choice than mcdavid months ago based on people around the oilers telling me how important that that he was. The team I think based on Glamour's that's I think if he wins the art Ross and continues to do what he does with. David lineup will probably win it. Because we know how voter running brothers and sisters but Mackenzie real good pick heck matthews might be a good pick to the way things are going leafs dateline Dick Millions you got. Hbo You Watch millions. I haven't seen it yet but I heard it's good. It's good it's so I wanted to just put this out there in the world because sometimes people like to hear what emily and I are into pop culture. He was McMillan's documentary on. Hbo They're actually doling it out one episode a week about the giant scandal old school. Yeah I know right. It's kind of annoying but also kind of good the giant scandal in which game pieces for the McDonald's monopoly game were somehow stolen and then given to a bunch of people who all sort of knew each other that the FBI eventually found out where they scam. Mcdonald's out of millions of dollars somehow the mafia gets involved. Somehow a bunch of other things get involved it involves FBI sting operations. You get to actually see the recordings of the people back in the day being tricked into getting basically depositions because they think that they're on some McDonalds like infomercial. It's all fascinating and really well done. So if you're looking for a good doc. The first three episodes available wherever you watch. Hbo Stuff. Millions is a good choice. It's really good. We have a rant line right Ryan. You said highgrading emily I cannot stand. He's terrible deadline shows their horrendous. No one wants to stare at James Duffy or Jeff Maric Nicer looking as they are for eight hours while they twiddle their thumbs and do nothing. The only thing that's ever even having one of those show Greg have to do all right answer that one. Explain that reference okay I didn't put my pants. I was wearing brown pants that were referred to on social media as diarrhea pants because of their color and Sports Net was nice enough to give me a different pair of pants to wear on the air. So that is where do pants comes from the correct. The correct nomenclature is diarrhea pants for the record. Now I think it's one of those double edged swords right like we want hockey to get more coverage. This is hockey coverage and even if something doesn't happen it's an excuse for these networks. Have a couple of hours. Dedicate to hockey which I understand. They do more often than our network does. But I don't know it's fine. How many thoughts? I think it's also important to remember that they do tend to kind of keep the focus on hockey for the majority of that show. I think emily and I were tasked with doing twelve hours of coverage on a day when nothing happens Then it would sound very much like it does in Bristol where emily and I will be on Monday for the trade deadline where it becomes discussions about you know the funniest named New Jersey City's and the quality of pizza toppings the place in West Hartford. We go to a very good chance that it would look a lot different than what it looks like on Canadian Television which may be better but to those who are struggling with the Canadian. Acadian trade deadline shows. I still give them credit for keeping their eye on the price is best they can even if it eventually devolved into leaves talk and they get Justin Trudeau call and it's important. It's big national stuff. Yeah all right. That's a fun and exciting differently formatted. Espn is for this week. Thanks to everybody who called. I think you individually but emily. I noticed that I would say most of the calls. It involve anybody's name for some reason. I don't know why that was the case. Now they did. I remember some names. It was Dan was it at the end. Don Don Don. I thought it was going to be more like. Wfan where they're like. You know you know. Hey everybody it's me don from flush I guess Ryan Says Don so look. You don't even know. Their names are anyway on that note. 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On Deadlines, EBUGs & Miracles

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On Deadlines, EBUGs & Miracles

"Jim You only five dollars. I believe you owe me. No you owe me five dollars. I will say this. I think my past record. It is very easy to prove that. You only five dollars of puns and play on words so when you asked me whether Chris Kreider would be moved. I said yes knowing that is either traded which has moved or he will resign with the team and be so emotional that he's moved. He missed practice the next day. That's how emotionally moved. He was. How do we know that it was really moved? You missed practice. I saw Johnny Gujral left practice early. Exact for an entirely different bodily exists for that reason. I think it was a no lose situation for me and I'm waiting for five dollars. American what are you going to spend it on even if you get it? Five whole dollars American Kit Kat. Is that your favorite candy depends. I like to sing. The ones that are packaged and just a single fingertip. Oh Yeah Yeah. Yeah like those. I think they have much more concentration of chocolate and the ratio of chocolate away for as much greater than the other ones. That are kind of thin. I'd have to wear this. Sounds like we require a science experiment. I think what we've settled here. Is that nobody actually knows who owes. Who what money. Well I think again. I'M GONNA put it out there to the listeners. Oh boy whether I have ever used a pun before if never if so then I win the bet thank you all right. I. I'll start there because I think the most fascinating situation to me on trade deadline day was the New York Rangers. Not just because of the Chris Kreider situation but then you have this car crash with Iglesias Turkey and Pablo Butchnevich. All the while. You're thinking okay. Are they gonNA move one of their goalies? Then are you gonNA move Chris Kreider and if you sign him who else gonNA move there. Were so many moving parts there for that front office. We had a very calm trade deadline comparison of what they had to deal with. Yeah I think that. I think it's pretty obvious to most people that they want to move. Lundquist of course he has the no movement clause and all that stuff going for him and he's earned that right. He's negotiated that right. But then you have the injury due to the car crash. Which is a RIB injury Said not to be too serious right on displaced fracture so it should be okay but still. I think that certainly eliminated any type of discussions the next day. It will obviously bring it towards the summertime when they'll have three Quality guy still undergone yeah. It's it's still a situation that needs to be worked out that to me was the most fascinating what what was the most fascinating thing for you. Trade deadline I asked you before we came in here. Like if you had three but if it's one or what how many fascinated you well. The fascination is a trade that helps both teams to me so the nuclear calendars getting patio. And then the Ottawa. Senators I mean. They're talking up there they're just acquiring all these picks and prospects and just they're loaded up so that helps both teams of course two teams going in different directions so you can make that type of betrayed the other thing. There's two teams that really intrigued me. Tampa Bay. Who didn't make any blockbusters but I think we're looking for a little bit of what they didn't have last year. Which is that play. Offs Style Grit more size. More grinded out. We know that they can beat you with skill so they just added a few little pieces here and there where they felt. It's going to change the overall attitude if anything of that team and what they can expect from players less turnovers more in your face and then the Pittsburgh Penguins. I think that they are looking to recreate what they did to win. Two Stanley Cups in a row under Mike Sullivan and that is a persistent. On the puck pressure the puck with speed. Don't worry too much about size. Just get on. Get on get on it and the speed they use is not necessarily for offense. It's more for getting the puck back. Get IT BACK QUICKLY. If you have it they take it transition. Go the other way and be as quick as possible. So those intrigued me that way again I think what stage is that team in. You have the Tang your crosby. You've got Malkin. You GotTa win now. Yeah so. That's what they try and do. They are perpetually in win now mode because they have the good fortune of such a deep set of high end guys that they can build around every year. That's the one thing I'll say about Ottawa. They've got seven picks in the first two rounds but they have very very little semblance of an NHL team at the moment and they have to build that over the next three or four years clean slate oh completely but the CAP era. It's going back to the Vegas thing. It's it's almost the best way to do things. It's the best way because you don't have a lot of contracts holding you down. You don't have cap. Wait where you can't move guys because they're making too much money and the picks you mention three first round right at the F. San Jose's right and if San Jose looks like they've dismantled so we assume they're not going to win many games by the end of the year so the ping pong balls that we're going to be in the Bingo machine or whatever it's potentially they could go onto they could go onto and you with a rough rainier that number one is pretty darn good. That's the only thing that gives me pause about where the Kings are at and we had a very quiet deadline day around here. All the work that Robert Blake did was well. Advanced of the draft. Are well advanced of deadline. Day should say and there wasn't a lot left that he could accomplish on trade deadline day. Yeah you can send guys for six six seven round picks or whatever but teams are calling. Teams aren't calling takes two to tango and the only thing right now that the kings are still leaning a lot on is their lottery. Pick for this coming year now. Last year they got the good fortune of getting Arthur Kelly of in the second round But you know you you pick guys like foggy mall in the late first round. Alex cont fifth overall. You as much as you hate to say it. The Future of the Kings in some ways rests on the lottery this coming year it. I think because of the player at the top I. It really is a targeted issue of course last year. The odds we we. We dropped the most possible spots. This is why I tell people all the time that are on like. Oh yeah the Kings should tank. No 'cause you still only have eighteen percent chance if you finished dead last if you're in the redwings position you have a one in five chance less than a one in five chance. That's not great odds. It's not great odds but I think I'm pretty much in the situation where you know you've you've got to take advantage of timing some. It's something you can't predict. It's something that just happens. I mean I'll I'll tell you what was a different era. I think there may have been I. Don't know if there was a lottery there was not the crosby. Oh of course now. We're trying to figure out I'm watching it and I'm going Anaheim is gonNA get Sidney crosby. That did not make feel very good. Of course they didn't get him but I'm getting the feeling that La Frontier is that type of player by field. Who's rated number two or at least was until recently also expected to be and then the depth of the draft. Everyone says it's going to be a deep draft so it's a good draft to have a lot of picks in and that's what the Kings do I still think there may be some roster restructuring at the draft and before the July first free agents. I know that the transition period the kings are going through. You mentioned it as far as before this year's trade deadline they got to a point where but maybe there might be some still veteran players. That are here now. Maybe I'm just throwing that people feel it fits better at the draft when two teams can sit down and you you finish the season. The emotions are not. They're not making a run. You're not going for a rental. You're trying to figure out a hockey trade and maybe more those would happen with the Kings then a couple of other interesting things that piqued my attention before we kind of wrap things up with a bow for the king's Ilya Kovalchuk The Washington. They're going to be what five Russians on that team. It's interesting to me. But the fact that he gets to play with ovechkin now and chase a cop. I think that's a big part of their still uncertain. Lebeau coble chuck. I think he's proven that he still has it. I remember before he was dealt from the Kings. Are I set it on here? I think and if not to other people. I watched chuck in practice all the time. He's not slowing down. He is not slowed. Down was in the right spot with the Kings. No it didn't work out contract direction transition system the whole yes. Everything like that works somewhere else. That's fine but I think because Washington who really doesn't have to add right. They're probably still considered a pretty good contender for the cup. Even if they didn't add I think having multiple countrymen for Ilia was a big factor in Brian maclellan pulling the trigger there because he could go to guys and say you know him personally. Yes Okay and get the truth. You're not getting a scout. Who GOT IT FROM THE TRAINER? Who got it from a an agent? You're getting it from guys. Who Know Him? And I think that that little extra insider information goes along into making the elect on a team. That didn't necessarily have to make it no Montreal retain salary the League minimum salary because Washington was so tight to the cap the team. I know it's not kings related but the team Carolina added. Yeah that was my other big one hockey hockey trades and rental issues. Tro Check Vaatainen Shea. Yup Now unrestricted free agents to that. Be a rental so to speak. But they've had some injuries so they're filling holes back on the Blue Line but intro check they get a guy with term left I. I don't consider them true contenders for the cup. Not many Shirley made it all the way to the semifinals Semedo. They've got to get there. Always healthy more on that in a minute. The Vegas won the Robin Leonard Sweepstakes. They'RE GONNA try to support flurry. Numbers haven't been great thirty five years of age like best roster best roster in the Pacific. Yeah in my mind I think on paper. Yeah so now it's Martinez has thrived. Yeah THEY HAVE NOT BEEN GETTING. The results leads to a huge move. Galant going out and aboard going in but that tells me that something was a little bit off not saying dislike or wrong direction. Just we talked about it at the time. I think it had more to do with the war. Be Considered vibe Guy. As opposed to any type of negative connotation there more for the positive and with the roster they have now the Pacific they have the best roster so in all thirty two trades. That's a record number on deadline day. Fifty five players heading into the three. Pm Eastern Time Trade deadline one final word on the kings here. One thing that was interesting to me every destination that the king sent players had a former teammate. Muhsin in Toronto Pearson Vancouver mcnabb Vegas Toby Reader for as short a timeframe. He was with the king's still teammate. Of Derek in Calgary so everywhere. The king sent somebody. There was a former teammate. There to welcome them and it's it might be exactly what we're talking about with Kovalchuk where you know. These are depth moves right to fully would be considered more than a depth move because he's playing in the top sex. And he's playing with Petra Sean So he's he's right there and expected to be an impact player. But you get you get that inside information you get the firsthand knowledge from former teammates and I think that helps the make their selection so now the kings have the third lowest captured of any team in the national hockey league this year outside of Auburn New Jersey Eleven picks twenty twenty ten picks in twenty twenty one. Are they done stripping down? I think they're going to try to continue to do it at the draft. You smell okay. I think they're gonNA try now again. There are people that believe. And that's I'll name just to be in all honesty. Jonathan quick because of the position as a goaltender. I've heard it discussed and explained that many teams feel when they get to the draft. They're planning for the entire next season or with termine French since since auto player like Jonathan. It's a better scenario than than it is as a rental now and just trying to quick. Fix Your team. There are certain players that fit into that category And I don't think I'm mentioning any name. That hasn't already been mentioned out there but I think going to the draft so if the transition of players started just about a year ago probably just you know. Let's go fourteen months ago. I think it will continue into the summer and then when we get into training camp I think then we'll know what's going on. Feels like we're right at that turning point close for sure anyway now fun trade deadline day. We got a lot of other stuff that happened. And I've heard that Jesse Cohen. Our producer has brand new musics or Jesse hit. And we welcome you. In to the Takayuki Fuji podcast studio in El Segundo California right next to the employee break room the La Kings facility also next to the PR office so hopefully. They're not listening again today. Otherwise we'll be in trouble once again this week. The Stadium Series Evander Kane and suspensions the miracle on ice but we begin with the big story in the NHL and it was not the trade deadline the bug and that's not the corona virus it's emergency goaltenders and the story. David Eyres the Carolina Hurricanes and unfortunately for the Toronto Maple leafs there now a punchline because they lost to the emergency goaltender who happens to work for the team. Wow how crazy was that on Saturday night. Intermission was very important for Carolina to get to that intermission because Toronto is getting right there. They go to intermission to make it happen phenomenal story. I know that for at least a year now the NHL has been working on. I'm talking about the management of GM's. Gm's on working on a different scenario and it's very difficult to come up with because that position of goaltending is so unique. Once you get into the game it's even more unique because I don't know if there's any other sport where a certain position whereas completely different equipment than the other positions so you would have to change the player coming in wouldn't be used to that. So what teams are looking to do now or as a league. They're looking to try to find a way to have a third goaltender. Maybe non-roster so cap doesn't fit all those but still would be almost traveling with the team. What's your take on this? I want to know? Are you in favor of the way it currently is with emergency goaltenders or would you want to see this traveling third goaltender or something like pro? I just can't see it working with the. There would be more familiarity with that guy if he was on your roster but again. I don't think or non roster player that was on your team I don't think like a bullpen catcher. And they wouldn't really. I don't think they would participate in practice so to speak. At least you want your normal guys to get their normal wraps maybe post practice. They'd be out there and taking the extra shots because one goaltender usually leaves the next day starter usually leaves early so it can happen. It's just a very unique situation. I know they're trying to figure it out. I don't have the answer. What would it does end up being a great story? But there's a little bit of a quirkiness to to that you just in no other sport no other sport which you have this football. You're not gonNA find some guy out of the stands to be a fourth string quarterback baseball position players but Ching but these backup goaltenders the merge sickle aren't out of the stands. They have been selected Wesley. They they've had to pass some type of a test. I mean it's not like you just go up and say hey who's kings how to try out a couple of years now so you know but I. I know where you're going. I know where you're going. It's it's really weird and to that extent I kind of I don't know if it's positive or negative. Oh I think it's a huge positive. I'll see I didn't I don't land is the NHL going to be on the today show. Yeah no no no no I think the story great story that comes out of it but I think because of the unique situation that surrounds the goal tending position to come up. The answer. We're looking for is so difficult but again when you when I hear you say no other sport to me. There's a negative there. It means that what you should find an answer to this. You shouldn't be happening that way. But it's a great story these guys do come in. We've seen it a couple times guy recently so it helps foster and they know they can handle themselves. They they've practiced. He was a practice goaltender but playoff positions are relying. You know you get into. How can you imagine if the leaves? Every leaf's fan is thinking this right now every single one. Can you imagine if they missed by one point and Carolina makes it? Can you imagine that happen? Oh talk about great story. Then oh my gosh but I I mean I'm thinking of it from the perspective of what if it happened eighteen and okay. It'd be a great story. How would you like to be on the other end of that? You don't want to be on the other and I thought the best part of the story was and it was not g rated but when it handed out was that in two words summarized it was great. I you know what my take on this. I love the quirkiness of it. And I've been thinking about this in recent days This is maybe a little bit of an aside and I I was thinking again. This is a topic but baseball. Recently with the announcement that there's a consideration of a metal with our playoff format and change it. Make it interactive. Some team can pick their opponent the NBA looking to tweak their thing. And I'm sitting back and looking at the NHL the NFL looking to expand their season right. I'm sticking sitting back looking at the NHL. And knowing what Gary Bettman loves about this league is that there is for the first time in a long while stability Labor wise schedule wise. They're expanding their growing. And I think right now other than some rules tweaks that we've talked about on this podcast. I wouldn't change hardly anything about this league right now. They're in such a good space And both sides I think our agreement right management side the ownership side and the players side. They're both in a pretty good agreement of what's going on the only thing we've talked about and mentioned one more time because it happened in the NBA. Game Lakers Celtics. The video review has to have a time limit. It has that we've talked about it and we do know that at some point it's going to happen where the winning goal in overtime of the seventh game of the Stanley Cup. Final is going to happen. And there's GonNa be a delay to verify the goal. It's going to be the worst but as long as they can get some time limit set in you brought it up because you experience it firsthand when you do tennis just the immediacy of how quickly they have to make the call but then also how much time those video review officials. I'm ex player. I'm all for getting it right. I would hate to be in a situation where a minute later they found. This new look showed conclusively that the ruling was incorrect. But I think the fan experience. There's a little bit that that Celtic Laker game. I mean it was a great fourth quarter back and forth one point two points hardly three and then you know twice really long extended delay Swan again. That's why I love for. The sport is right now. This mortar hockey. I think they've they've one thing they have nailed with some bumps in the road like anything else but they've nailed this idea video review. We talked about it a lot reviews down. Challenges are down like success. Rate and challenges has gone up. Because it's only the obvious ones. I think they have done a phenomenal job in getting this right. I'm going to move on because we got a lot to cover We were at the stadium series. We had glass seats. Were doing radio for Westwood. One really cool experience. I thought The only thing I will say that was the most negative thing from our perspective. I know there are others. That had trouble getting. The stadium is a different story Toe warmers completely useless. Hold on don't you remember what happened? What we got onto the plane lower now aster we get onto the plane. Taking my sticky. Foot warmers off. The toll warmers because you have stickiness to put them on the top or the bottom of your toes I had both coverage sides covered did not activate at all during the game. Nothing I get on the plane half an hour later I go to pick them up and they are red hot. It was like Kohl's well thanks. I need it now. That's I'm going to my huge complaint would be to the to`manufacture for both of us. They did not work when we were outside when we needed them. Most a hand warmer fine activated around your hand. It's cool but yeah that was it was. I thought it was perfect. I'm not telling anyone anything they don't know if you were there because you need it to be called That's hockey. That's why you want that experience doors but the wind was under control because the son had already gone down. You don't have glare. I thought the ice conditions were phenomenal. We were right there. You could just see it to players the it was really working well And then of course you know the military aspect and the cadets that are there and their chance to be upfront close and personal it was Justa and Tyler Toffoli Patrick Dinner. I always a fun of it was a fun event. Yeah I know that there was an issue with folks getting in and out of the avalanche the avalanche bearing the brunt of a lot of it and I know the Air Force Academy Heads in trouble with as well. There were warnings to get their super early. And we got stuck in that traffic and we could understand why because military base. The parking situation isn't great. They're even for Air Force Football Games. I've heard But there are some folks demanding refunds so just a cautionary tale for whoever wants to host next every local news channel. The previous day the day of the game when I was watching. That's all they were talking about was parking and how difficult it was going to be if it was a surprise to you then. That's your fault but I still understand people off with what would happen because of it just went too long. It went a wound up being a meaning disaster for those who missed a good chunk of the game. I don't blame them for for asking for a refund. Swag bag hall man. Thank you. La Kings beautiful. Oh my gosh two. We get hit with just amazing. Slagle everything the players got. Here's an interesting one and then I'll move on Note and Elliott Friedman's column last week before the trade deadline the Arizona. Coyotes are pushing for a game in Mexico City at the estadio s Decca. Or maybe somewhere else. I don't like warm. You did the two stadium. You were there for the two stadium series here in California. What did you think of those warm weather outdoor hockey just and you were there for Caesar's Palace ninety-one Yup I th dodger? Stadium is iconic sure. So we're down there before the game and you're on the pitchers now and you're looking up. The view looking up reminded me. I mentioned at the time like I was Russell. Crowe in gladiator. I was looking up and you could just see the the the deck round but baseball stadiums. Because they're not symmetrical to the way. The ice rink fits it. Just you know you can get some bad seats there. So that's a complete experience. Yeah I think I think the Colorado Springs cold you need that and it was a perfect size stadium but forty five thousand people's pretty intimate bowl. We're we got the Mexico City altitude thing. That's true considering up those stairs at the Air Force Academy. That was good feel it. Yeah Yeah I know they've been talking about you know. Can we get the Florida teams to do an outdoor game humanities issue with the ice-making there? I'm I'm I don't like Warm Weather Stadium Games for outdoor hockey. Do it in cold weather cities. Even if you have to repeat some Seattle comes in. That'll be another opportunity to do outdoor thing. I I just the I understand for team like Arizona to want to do something like that. Here's where it can work. I in this is my opinion. I think the next stadium series game after Carolina should be at Army West Point and it should be Vegas Golden Knights against the New York Rangers. Bill fully connection to the army that the whole idea of the Black Knights. That's why name the Golden Knights put them against the Rangers. Mikey Stadium Hudson Valley perfect perfect to me. This is what I would do because I've been there before. I would put up bleachers for twenty five thousand people on the beach in Manhattan. I love this. I've heard this before I love this idea. And that's where I have. I think that's brilliant. Now would only be twenty five thousand four free. Adp Vance and back in the day. I don't know if the bleachers were actually twenty-five but the a lot of people it gets infrastructure you know to me is something that will now change traction and we get an ice January dropped to like sixty two degrees. Kathy gets in the fifties sometimes the waves coming up. I've softened up Jim whenever whenever whenever that little chill in the air and I'm in the South Bay like Oh man I could really use it cold right now and I've I've all my east coast friends they're like. Oh you softened up. Yeah Yeah I have all right. Let's keep going This was a topic we talked about big time on the plane back. I believe it was from Winnipeg. Evanger CAIN former Winnipeg jet pretty blunt comments about the Department of player safety. I'm going to read his comment. And then I know we had a great discussion about what the what the players are thinking. Right now about department player saved because let's be honest none of them ever like punishment. But here's what he said Let's see that there is a major lack of consistency with NHL Department of player safety a completely flawed system in so many ways from suspensions to appeal rights. It is baffling to me. How we is players agreed to this. You can't continue to give some players a pass and throw the book on others. There has to be an outside third party making these decisions to remove the bias. The transpires in this department headed by George Perils. None of it makes any sense. The context of this you got a three game suspension for eight clear elbow that deserved a suspension. But then he goes off in spouts out against the player safety. What's your take on this completely unprofessional on needed? If you have a beef. Don't get personal by mentioning George Perros by name. I think it was a personal attack. As opposed to an attack on bias he mentioned and also Vander. Pick your battles. You went into contact. You extended your elbow well away from the normal with your shoulders. I don't know if there's a better example of targeting the head that I've ever seen that one right there yes? There may be some inconsistencies but I know given the opportunity player safety can explain their thought process at the end of it. I know there's a lot of players that don't agree with the explanation but it is there and we will talk about one more time and we'll probably talk about it again. I think the only addition that player safety needs to do is. This is three to five times a week. You take an example of a play that was not deemed to be fit the criteria for supplemental discipline and explain why not the explanations they put out on the why should be and why it is. And how many Games thinker? Well done detailed but if they could do the same thing in reverse this reason for this reason this was not deemed to be into the criteria of supplemental discipline. I think that would go a long way to the process of educating and eliminating would evanger. Cain feels is inconsistency. I would tend to believe that every time. The regime change meaning the head of that department changes. I think there is a subtle moven. How they view things but I would think that. They are more consistent now than they've ever been built up a case history us. That's the thing with all these explanation videos they it. It's hard to contradict themselves. We did it with Reinhard in Buffalo and I'm going to give a vander a little media one on one training here It's unfortunate that I use my elbow to make that head contact. I think I've seen similar cases around the League at the time and I look forward to discussing that with George. Perros where he can help me and I can help him and hopefully move on in the future so these things can be dealt with on a more consistent basis. I don't like to pick and choose your social media responses. I take on this and I think this is. I saw this on twitter. The this one really spoke to me. Hey Vander stop throwing elbows at the head and you won't have to worry about it. The NHLPA should be more concerned that their members are regularly attacking each other with dangerous plays and then have to sit there and defended. Its strong takes quick but I I. I like that point of view of just like well. If you don't WANNA get suspended don't throw high elbow. He used the wrong example to try to make his case. Because this one was pretty clear to me and what I mentioned Reinhardt and I mentioned Mister Cain here vander. It's I know at the moment. There's emotions that happen but then you can fix it the next day when the emotions are gone you can you can re assess and offer another verbal opinion on what just took place and I think when you're more under control vander probably doesn't feel that way and I know there are players that feel that the inconsistency having been a player Rep and he mentioned. The players agreed to this. I know how it is because as a player up I would go back to information to our players and distribute the information. They wouldn't listen. They didn't care asked him the next day. What you discussed no idea. So I'm making the assumption that similar communications nowadays. It's a little easier because they can send clips to all these players via email. We didn't have that when I was playing player up. You have to just hold an actual meeting and but I I think that you know he he. He's raising a point and the point is if he disagrees with what they agreed to. He has to bring that up in a formal setting with. He's sticking point of view. I don't like the way he does. I too personal now. You know when you heard about it. You're mad you're emotional. You do it. I can live with that but the next day you've got to come up with. I look forward to sitting down with George perilous at a later date so we can figure out and get on the same page here and you know part of the reason why he wasn't thrilled almost exactly a year prior Kane got elbowed in the face Biza Dino Chara. It went unpenalised in the game. I was no hearing no disciplined. Cain missed several games and just days prior to this year. Chara got fined for a cross check. That looked fairly violent. And so he I'm. I'm just making the assumption that he's connecting the dot saying well he didn't get suspended for that and I'm get suspended for this player. Safety did make the announcement in both cases and they talked about height differential ends. Edina would be one of the few players on not saying I agree with it especially with crosscheck but they did have a tangible reason why they felt it was not suspended. He got five grand a fine which now not get supplemental discipline but they and they know players know that if there is a huge discrepancy in size that can be used as one of the factors. You can disagree with how they use that rule at that time but that was the reasoning for it. There was a tangible reason. You can disagree with the reason. I'm sure he does. I just WANNA see us going back to players exacting. Vigilante Justice that to me is a step backwards for the league because that's how it was in Europe and and and you know there are some players that are still around. We've talked to them and they wouldn't mind him but those are usually the guys that have been around town. Yeah yeah I I just think as a League in the twenty first century having a Department of player safety which granted they operate Kinda on their own. Anyway yeah the consultation from hockey ops and Colin Campbell and all that but they're chartered with doing this on their own without having the commissioner or the or guy like Colin Campbell and hockey operations to have to chime in like. They're tasked with being able to handle this stuff on their own. It's it's not independent but and the appeal process. I'm sure so many fish Some of the players have a problem with that. But that's what collective bargaining is for. That's when you go in and make that a priority that we need to change this process so if it goes to an appeal. You're not appealing to Gary Bettman. You're appealing to a third party. Independent group Y'all have a CBS negotiation. Using all right one more before we For he had some questions this week. Big Celebration or last week or so was the fortieth anniversary of the miracle on ice. And I've I've always been curious because it was before I was born and we always you know We we see the film from from ABC Sports and then we see the Disney movie. Come Out I've been curious this week. What was that like from a Canadian point of because we've talked about your experiences with Russia? And how almost personal that sort of thing was for you at the time but night take me back to one thousand nine hundred eighty and that experience. It was interesting once again for me because in seventy nine I played in the world junior championships and there was a handful of players on the Russian team that I played against the crew. Tops Larionov's Yari careers playing for Finland and I played against them so I had a little bit but it really was too. I was auto at two time playing my lascher junior. I remember watching the final game. Which was the game against Fillon? I remember not thinking much about it at all. Because in Canada we were able to use their best players because the best players were professionals at that time. Canada really didn't have a process to develop and put together a national team. They did but it was kind of makeshift. Your thing was the summit series to that happened before then. So you'd already had a crack at the rush and you know it's I didn't i. It was it was in the back of my mind but then I remember watching the gold medal the last game against feeling and I'm gone guys. Don't blow it. Don't blow it. You got this far. You can't blow it so I found. I found myself cheering for the US team. Where previous to the I just didn't have. I didn't have any thoughts about the US rush. I knew what was going on the turmoil in the world. I knew the political things but it didn't hit me. Canada had removed itself from that discussion. The Olympics were weren't that important and then I found myself watching on my bed in my bedroom in Ottawa. Going jumping up and down on the bad guys. You can't blow it and they were behind world you can't you can't beat one of the best teams ever assembled. And then and you know there could be an emotional letdown. Let's face completely but so I was. I was engaged way more than than I thought it would be. And it wasn't until their chance to win the gold against feeling that I I was just I was in it. Jimmy no what you've just revealed to me You root for the underdog or they weren't the underdog against Finland were they. They were okay. I heard I think it was Lucero talking about Atari was. They certainly weren't the favorite. No not a heavy favourite by any stretch. It's got you got you on one. Yeah all right. Let's get to some questions here. We got a lot because the the La Kings twitter account re tweeted US so ton poured. I'm going to see if we can get through this. Do I'm GonNa put a clock myself okay. So that which is goes against the whole reason you do. A podcast a podcast. You have a chance to explain yourself but to get to as many court. I want to get these menu and we'll just try to put like a like thirty thirty to sixty seconds Favorite Sport to watch other than hockey This is from Chris. Ramirez Soccer for me. It used to be baseball I I do watch tennis. But not a ton. Outside of the grant I've worked in the sport obviously I still like watching college basketball. March madness to me. I stay glued to it during a tournament. The most amazing sporting event. I have ever been to outside of hockey the Stanley Cup Championships. The women's World Cup. Ooh Yeah final. You went to that ninety nine Roseville. Wow wife Susan and I were sitting in the end zone ongoing. Pass my thirty seconds. But this is great. Yeah Yeah we're in the end zone. Were the Chinese delegation. Was so all. We're in that with about ten minutes remaining in the second overtime period because they're going to go to the shootout. I saw all the photographers coming to our end of the field. We're only about twenty rolls up from. We're brandy chastain. Took OFF HER JERSEY. We were right there but I noticed all the photographers coming over and I said the penalty kicks are going to be at this end. If if there are kicks I was so but just that whole hundred thousand people and Taoist great experience how. Well that's cool list Premier League game. We'll get you there. That's a bucket list. There's there's enough overlap at new stadium. Here's Phanom Craven so Fulham's my team. Oh craven cottage if there been relegated if you weren't in the industry this is from From if you weren't in the industry you currently work in. What would you be doing teaching school? I think that's two Two brothers that are teachers I just think that would fit with. Why would Fits my personality a little bit and not a lawyer? you've gotta you've already lawyers demeanor. Picking apart statements that other people make who tend to sit next to you on television Like Lauren we'd Meyer used to work for us. I would continue my legal education at night and come up with legal at some point while I was teaching. I I would be a management consultant because that was my first job out of college and I always had the idea of. I want to solve problems and I will solve the world's problems and you'll pay me handsomely to do it and then you won't fix it and I can go off and solve somebody else's problems gets a great thing because you never responsible ours. No no better word anyone's title than consult my Gosh never responsible for the final production. I love it Scott asks the Canadian flags color is red with some white. Obviously the only color in the flag is red. Is this to honor? The country's love of Ketchup I would never ever ever though spill catch up on the Canadian flag. Oh disrespectful really respectful. But if I did I would do it on the maple leafs so you wouldn't be all right. I can't answer that question because I'm not a Canadian Joel. Goodling our producer pregame and Postgame Fox sports west and actually a couple of others Asked your favorite getaways Scott. Ask this as well. Favorite getaways favorite vacations. Southern California hough was. Now you're getting me favorite place to have a glass of wine in the world is the Piazza in Sienna. Italy ooh Never been to the polyot where they have the horse races because it doesn't fit my schedule but I can imagine how great that would be I'm I'm I'm I think I am have a beer. Outside of the Coliseum in Rome was just phenomenal just just to just to look up and see if I won the lottery. I probably have a place in the Amalfi coast or up near Chink with Tara Santa Margarita. I know Frank Sinatra had a place right there. He think I realized why he did. I can drive up to Palos Verdes here and you get the same type of views. Almost the same topography. But there's something different when you're on vacation. I loved Japan. I thought it was a fascinating country to visit and I would love to go back domestically one of the places that I really WanNa go back to his Alaska especially in the summertime. It is amazing. You WanNa talk about the policy and just just totally different environment It was amazing. I love to go back getting caught in a rainstorm like store. It just started coming down cats and dogs just outside a bone in Burgundy. We went on a tour of wineries on our bicycles and we went about halfway through. We were going and they had just started coming down. Never had more fun in my whole life. It was great back in. I had drunk. We're you know you've got to attain yourself and the road was little wet so you but I'll tell you we went to one and I was still just coming off of playing them and or close to it and I had still had some pretty good legs you know. Muscles remember stopping and having a picnic outside one of the wineries. My wife speaks fluent French. The guy comes out and He's he says to her eight. You mind if my your husband's stays by in with those legs and helps me pick and I said okay. I'll do that. Snoopy asks seriously. Why do hockey players wear suits and ties? It's not like the growing a work in an office or something. That's just the general respect. I think that has been part of the traditional aspect of hockey to the point. Where you just in a country like Canada? I think that's where it stems from. It's different now. You know with all the Canadian kids going to the NBA and high dropped back when it was the one sport that you aspire to play and be a professional if you ever made it then you would dress like that. You would dress in total respect and I think that's just carried on. Yeah I like it. I I really like the the dress code in the NHL. I think we are showing up two jobs right and we are behaving as professionals. We don't WanNa Look Slovenly as we head into our place of work and we do want to have respect for the environment we have. I got one more then. We'll finish. When will we start seeing Fox and faust at the flicks? Well I think that would be. You know what that would be very enjoyable. Because I know that we're different generations and I definitely respect your opinion of the arts and I have a lot of deep opinions to about moviemaking and and and I see this is what happened to me because of the Valentine's Day Gosh marathons they play. Can you imagine like for years for years? My favorite movie is pulp. Fiction just absolutely loved. It loved the dialogue. Like the writing. Big Tarantino Fan. But I really didn't know that he was the writer back. Then when I watched identity reservoir dogs until after I saw pulp fiction and then since well I find myself watching. Titanic and that's kind of moving up there one two now with alert. How can both always movies go together? They don't but titanic over pulp fiction. I just want slap me. I JUST WANT. Tim are engineered to cut off the part where after it says I respect your opinion and then just nothing after that exactly and then we can go on from there. I I actually. It'd be fun because Bob Nick at the flex. That was the thing back in the day. I know that you haven't seen so so it'd be interesting if I'm gonNA live in L. A. I gotta I gotTa Watch more movies so I'd be open to to something like that and it's with that unless you got anything else. Jim I think we're GONNA end speaking movies every time. I'm going to staple center. I'm taking that on ramp. Yeah and I want to get into my car and get on every time. How cool is this? We're driving on the on ramp. That movie that's kind of NEAT. All right well we encourage everybody. Hit THAT SUBSCRIBE BUTTON. And we'll have more episodes as we hit towards the end of the regular season here and maybe on into the postseason. We both work playoffs for for the network on radio and TV so We'll be around the rings we'll be able to see a lot going on in the NHL but still a lot to get done here for The kings towards the end of the regular season. We thank you so much for tuning in see next time.

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Special Episode: Mark Hyman on Revolution Health Radio with Chris Kresser - Fixing Our Broken Food System

The Doctor's Farmacy with Mark Hyman, M.D.

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Special Episode: Mark Hyman on Revolution Health Radio with Chris Kresser - Fixing Our Broken Food System

"Hi everyone this is k. A. Perot at one of the producers of the Doctors Pharmacy podcast. Dr Hyman was recently interviewed by his friend. Chris Kreider and like always these two had a great conversation so we wanted to share it with you. They talk about chronic disease food system and so much more. Hope you enjoy it. Hey everybody Chris Kreider here. Welcome to another episode of Revolution Health Radio this week. I'm really excited to welcome Mike. Good friend and colleague Dr Mark Hyman as a guest. Dr Hammonds a practicing family physician. An internationally recognized leader Speaker. Educator Advocate in the field of functional medicine. He's the founder and director of the Ultra Wellness Center the head of strategy and Innovation of the Cleveland Clinic Center for Functional Medicine a twelve time New York Times bestselling author and board President for Clinical Affairs the Institute for Functional Medicine. He's the host of one of the leading health. Podcasts that doctors pharmacy and he's a regular contributor to several television shows and networks including CBS morning. Today Good Morning America the view and CNN. He's also an adviser and Guest Co host on the Dr Oz. Show if you've been following functional medicine for any length of time. I'm sure you know about Dr Mark. Hyman he is really one of the modern pioneers of this movement. And perhaps more responsible for advancing functional medicine As a concept and as a practice in any other person in the world. Today we're GONNA be talking about his new book food fix which I believe is one of the most important books that's been written in the century that may seem a little hyperbolic. But I think you'll agree with me By the end of this podcast food fix really focuses on the systemic problems in our food system and how they contribute to chronic disease epidemic. And I've often said before that health is not just an individual endeavor. We really have to address the systemic problems that contribute to ill health. And that's really what Mark's new book food fixes about so without further ado let's dive in mark and my friend such a pleasure to have you back on the show. Welcome thanks so much for having Me Grist. That is an important subject. We gotta talk about this but we both care so much about and I'm so excited to share this with you and your your community. Yes as I said in the INTRO. I think this is possibly one of the most important books that has been written and will be written in this century and that may sound hyperbolic for some people but given the scale of the challenge. We're and I know you saw this. This study published last week marks predicting now that one and two Americans will be obese by the year. Twenty thirty and one in four will be severely obese which is a whole new category. We've had to create So this is really like an existential threat that we're facing on the same level of climate change and other things that seriously threatened the future of humanity. And as you and I both talked about before. Health is not just an individual choice or an individual endeavor. It's really a a society wide effort we need to mate so so. Let's talk a little bit more about that. I know you mentioned in the book. That diet is now the number one cause of death in the world so maybe we could start there. Yeah well thanks Chris. I think that what you said was really important. Which is it's it's about Z's by you mentioned on the scale things like climate change. But what really? It was clear to me after working on this walking practicing medicine Everything's connected that. Our food system as a whole is probably the biggest driver of most of our Global. Crises obviously chronic disease. We're getting to that economic burden of it. We talked about you. Know How in the book To manicured when when federal dollars will be for Medicare within five years? Nothing crazy and it's getting worse It's the number one driver. Climate change environmental degradation loss of our soil. Our water resources adversity. It's the biggest driver. Social injustice is a huge contributor poverty and violence mental health issues not to mention his performance security so this is really one issue that if we pull the thread we talk naked and the good news is by working on fixing the food system. We can solve all these problems. That's really critical point. I don't think many people really consider that when they're making choices about food that it's it's not just a question of nutrition. I mean we. Of course everyone's familiar with all the debates about what diet is best low carb low fat plant-based Paleo Egan Cetera But we often don't think of the fact that our food choices are also political social economic and environmental acts. You know it's it's not just about what we eat from nutritional perspective every time we put something in your mouth were essentially making a vote on all of these global issues that we're facing it's so true and I think I think that is both a caring dot powering hot because we actually understand the impact of our choices and our behaviors and we also understand the linkages to what's going on our policies than it's very empowering thought I can be part of the solution and also realized that it has to happen on a bigger scale and I think so. The bulk really lays out not just sokol food apocalypse which you could easily been call. It's called food six maps out the solutions for citizens businesses and policymakers to fix the problem. And it's going to require a significant level awareness. People really understand these problems and linkages is I. Don't think most policymakers do I ever example. Spent two hours on a boat this summer with a united senator and use a very hope and interesting guy and huge unaware of these unaware of these connections and now sort of struck by out. Wait a minute the guys who are making our Ossete are not aware that these are the issues that we have to face. They're all dealing with them in silos. Safavid SORTA like functional medicine for the Food System as opposed to all these separate different issues. One issue you get to the root cause you can really solve them right. Yeah that's why I'm so excited about this book because I think a lot of people aren't aware it's just not on their radar. It's not something they're thinking about. And so this book and then the campaign that's associated with it which I want to talk about a little later. I think is really going to help. bring this forward in the into people's awareness and make it as big of an issue in terms of the public consciousness as it really deserves to be a needs to be. If we're going to address these challenges we're facing. I mean let's talk a little bit about the food system and Diet and their contribution to this epidemic of obesity and chronic disease. That is now literally crippling our. You know our healthcare system or are sick care system depending on what you want to call it not just here in the US but now worldwide and is going to lead to fifty trillion dollars of expenditure to treat chronic disease just in in the next twenty years and possibly bring down governments and economies all around the world so it starts with food. It's completely true and I think if we look at some of the new data using our smoking or whatever turns out that according to the global burden of disease study a hundred ninety five countries that lack of good foods and too much bad foods kills over eleven million people. I think. That's an underestimate. Actually start to look at the other. Chronic diseases that are causing the die in the add them all up and you see ause by food like diabetes and heart disease and other things is probably upward a forty or fifty million people in year. Three quarters of all desolate planet are contributed to her. 'cause by our food our ultra processed food in the author food or eating is sixty percent of our allies corn wheat and soy turning all kinds of factory-made science projects and every ten percent of your diet the comes from processed food. Your risk and debt is up by fourteen percent and decide effective. That is huge economic. You mentioned fifty trillion. If not how you slice and dice ID According to macroeconomic analysis the the cost to our society in both direct indirect cost is going to be ninety five trillion dollars over the next thirty years. Disappointing perspective that's annual amount. That's ninety one percent of the total tax by the US government so it's really much more than GDP the sixth largest economies of the world. And yes and also. It's probably more. That amount is more than the total economy in the world. You had. It'd be over thirty five years but I you know just things like Medicare Trust. Fund is going to run out of money in five years by twenty twenty. Five forty percent are mandatory. Federal spending will be for Medicare which means there's like half money left everything else and it's not sustainable and we know that the food over eating is so nutrient depleted that it is so inflammatory so toxic microbiome so toxic to our brain chemistry. I sell inflammatory. That it's driving all these other issues which isn't just obesity diabetes heart disease. It's affecting our kids academic performance. You know we're thirty first in the world in math and reading and our kids are struggling with. Add and behavior issues on the data on a striking do not violence violence is connected to food but in violent prisoners in prison giving them a healthy diet reduced violent crime by fifty. Six percent added a multivitamin reduce it by eighty percent and same thing with kids in juvenile detention centers behaviors reduced by ninety one percent of Restraints by seventy five percent oppositional behavior dramatically lower suicide one hundred percent drop in suicide and these kids in this one. Study thousand kids were they swap not healthy for the bad food of these centers huge impact on our electoral capital on emotional capitals on the divisiveness nursing society. I mean we think. Why is our society so divided? Why are we having so much conflict in politics even nutrition? Diet Wars Thinks Camper total distraction from what we really need to be focused on totally and and part of the problem. I'm David permettre my podcast talking about the effects of inflammation on the brain in decoupling the limbic system from the frontal what that means is you have a fighter flight reptile brain your Lizard Brain which is the all brains and not great at making good decisions except saving your life and your lobe. Which is the adults in the room? So if you have an emotional reaction response and you get activated. You can't really control which is why there's so much Device behavior wire decisions or soda or and I. It was sort of a strengthening another striking fact from David modernising son wrote this book brainwash about how our food is driving behavioral issues and emotional conflict stuck in our limbic system in the amid. Love running the show rather than our frontal cortex Dacca Yeah. Let's talk a little more about kids because this is something. We're both passionate about How the food industry preys on children specifically you know. It's it it preys on everybody but it. The the effects are especially insidious with kids. So you know. Let's talk a little bit about those tactics and how we can address that Starting with young kids in schools and cafeterias in the food that they're served and so huge You know obviously kids are sicker and battering. Remember those at one overweight kid in your class growing up. One kid was at behavioral and she now wanted kids have G. and forty percents of overweight and obesity mason triple since the nineteen seventies at one and three kids overweight. Or I mean that's pretty striking and he wanted for teenagers as tech diabetes or prediabetes which is really crazy. Ain't never saw that when I was growing up. And you see the fast infiltrating schools in dramatic ways one. Not You know what's going on is like Yuki percent of schools. They have fast food serve in the cafeteria like McDonald's Monday Taco Bell Tuesday Wendy's Wednesday and these kids get to eat There's incredible abundance of processed foods and then marketing. These kids from schools at all the advertising goes in from soda companies the big food companies. That is driving their behaviors on their choices. I mean they now you know Coca Cola. Ads in the in the locker rooms in the toilet stalls in the bathrooms. So there's a lot of good things that happened for example trying to solve that with the healthy hunger. Free Kids Act that Michelle Obama champion and she tried to mandate one hundred thousand. Public Schools provide healthier foods and improve the nutrition standards. But it didn't really go far enough right used. You still begin all kinds of junk in there now. Unfortunately the the the trump administration is rolled back a lot of those guidelines in the kids. Aren't eating food throwing it out. I mean they were. They were one hundred eleven food companies. Trade GROUPS INSPIRATIONS. At lobbied on this bill and it was putting into play as a group called the School Nutrition Association with. Sounds Really Nice you want all. The groups have those kinds of misleading names. Right it's like an industry funded a lobby group at Kenley dollar budget comes from big food. Companies like Coke Craft Domino's pizza and they watered down the guidelines pizzas eventually ball. French fries. Intervention Ball. I got your fresh. It's terrible kids are really suffering in sex nailing their weight and you're wondering help it also their cognitive function and their behavior like you said before now I now the things that are okay under the guidelines pepperoni pizza chicken nuggets funnel cakes chocolate muffins. She was so slush beverages. Those are all approved under the crank is. We've doesn't make any sense to. You are really trying to shoot this friend of mine. Jill Sean. I read the Book Gladys Nickelbein. My Weight Cafe where she found out how to refurbish Kitchens in schools at a low cost only had be friars of microwaves. She hired top chefs in Boston. Boston years in schools crew delicious foods that were within the school nutrition guidelines and even more probably within the school nutrition budget. Yeah which means that. They could provide the same food. No extra costs. I mean better food and not your costs and these kids are performing better in school behaviors. Better they're having issues pretty. It's pretty amazing that sounds great yet. It grassroots solutions like this thing can go such a long way because they prove out the model and then not model can be scaled up And exported not just here in the US but at elsewhere. Yeah and and and they're not the only ones. There's you know there's really great rupe center trying to solve this in. Schools are conscious unconscious. Which is one of them. And there's really great groups that are working on this so I feel like there's so much maybe not the other. The other issue is food marketing and this is really a problem because the is it used to be You know just in in the obvious places right on. Tv In print and so forth a now stealth marketing and the the student medicine news report even before the Internet saying how bad it was and now it's ten times worse and in their their hijacking kids amid brains are using all kinds of emotional targeting. And they're really driving huge amounts of marketing towards towards these kids. I mean doesn't sixteen fifty six biggest companies place five hundred and nine million banner ads impressions on Cartoon It. Learn Nick. Nick Dot Com. They placed three point four billion ads on facebook. And you and the WHOL is like Hey. This is not okay. They're using powerful digital marketing tactics. doesn't even come up as advertising. It said on adver games. That are fun games. They give Free Audit Drivers. Mcdonald's and it's It's easier looking at kids. Brains imaging cynic in action. See what lights up their their pleasure center in their brain brain hacking. Yeah I mean it's scary. I mean it's not just like Oh we don't really know we're doing we just is. I'm not there. They know it intentionally manipulative. Yep exactly we gotTA protect our kids. I mean a friend of mine said if a foreign country was doing to archies. But we'RE DOING. We would go to war absolutely without a doubt without a doubt. Let's talk a little bit about the role of regulation. This is a controversial issue. Of course people politically people. Have you know ideas about how much the state whether we're talking about actual? Us states or or federal government should get involved. Let's talk a little bit about Soda Tax as an example and the effects that has had where that's been done and then other Things that governments Both here domestically and abroad might do to intervene. And whether you even think that's a good idea. Well I think there's a whole issue. The nanny state and I think people are posted at and the government getting involved in their choices but support to remember that we do have laws that protect citizens for example. We have seen that loss. We have emissions for cars of the car manufacturer in arms and now emissions are are a thing people except we manage. Abc's we mandate vaccinations which may not like a good idea. But but we do have a efforts in our country to protect our citizens we used to prevent industry from polluting our water source and air air air that we breathe right exactly so I think there's there's really a great evidence around fiscal policy to drive change and I think there's been enough so taxes in a place where they're effective And we can sir arguing whether they're good or not but they work. This is why the food industry in American beverage. We spent thirty eight million dollars trying to defeat them in California and thank God the Michael Bloomberg and Arnold Foundation spent about twenty million of their own money to actually allow them to pass. I mean that's what it takes a billionaire saying. Hey wait a minute. We're going to fight back but when you look at the data. They really do work reduction. Soda consumption is improvement. How is reduction way and actually it actually works? And that's why they find another problem. Is that the food industry fights back so much we arrive this spot in California. There was four states that aspect where towns it passed tax in the twenty six no action and and that was because Bloomberg and Arnold Foundation however right after that the food industry signed a new tactic. This has nothing to do with With with sold anything they just created a ballot measure that would prohibit local governments from passing new taxes to pay for schools. Fire Department station. Whatever without a two-third majority would be very impossible and would cripple local governments in California. They spent seven million dollars. Muddiness ballot initiative. They couldn't care less about but they but they use it to bribe Jerry Brown who was probably the most liberal governor. We've ever had in America to pass a preemptive. Baugh that prevented any future soda. Tax cuts are junk food taxes. So if any did the last minute is pull it pull the ballot measure in if you pass this five days before election and it just went through without any any kind of like awareness until after and they're doing this in state after state after state so they're they're fighting back they're using big tobacco's a book about. Yeah so so you know. We see place like Mexico where they'd had taxes for a while they work Soft drink sales plunged while water water. Consumption increased We see the same thing and in Philadelphia where we're seeing similar taxes and Berkeley. So there's a lot of analysis of that and According to according to new Plus Medicine which research journal debt if over the course of a decade this Tax Mexico and same nineteen thousand lives prevent two hundred thousand new cases diabetes and Lower. Mexico's healthcare costs muscle billion dollars. So it works. Yeah I think I think the biggest I mean. I'm with you on this mark but I do have mixed feelings because the biggest risk with this. It's pretty clear everybody agrees that there should be a soda tax but what about a saturated fat tax? You know what about you know? Government starts making decisions which which what was actually proposed. I don't know if it ever happened in Norway But you can sometimes get you know the idea of taxes based on consensus paradigm science. Which as we know isn't always accurate in can change over time so I think overall I agree with that approach but I I am a little nervous about the direction that that could go in is true. I mean not in the book talk about Sherry put in sweeping reforms. Do you think are being really looked carefully on scientifically but have had dramatic impact and and they did a whole sweeping San things in eighteen percent tax. It put warning labels on the front of boxes. They got rid of the cartoon characters like Tony. The tiger But they're warning boxes are saturated fat saw in sugar which may not be the right approach. Right comes in dial up and down these greenest. But it's still. It's still a snap board but you're right. There is danger in it but what they didn't also is limited any marketing to kids between six and ten pm on eighty any exit. Tb Tran everywhere and found. There was a fourfold reduction. Compared to the taxes junk tuned in processed food by eliminating the advertising. The marketing is a bigger factor in bigger lever than taxes. Problem in this country is something called. The First Amendment is being used by these companies to actually argue that they have a right to do that. Yeah yeah that's an impeachment on free speech and he should be limited and I think you know I don't know if there's anything in the First Amendment that says we can't protect children. I just don't know right. Yeah we're living in a much more complex environment now than win those you know the Constitution was written and I'm not arguing that Those principles aren't still valid. But I think there's a lot of nuance now that there there wasn't that didn't necessarily exist at that point. Let's talk about the other side of this In terms of government programs they can have great benefit but they can also be problematic and contribute to the problem. One example is food stamp program. So let's let's talk a little bit about some of the issues that that is is causing for sure. While I think you know monitor the problems we have today. Come to really realize we're not the result of bad intentions right so our cultural system. Our Food Stamp Program Died they were all coming from a good intentions. And we decided we need to grow food. Calories going starchy calories all at screening to feed people. The folks on giving people adequate amounts of calories but not concerned about where those came from and it turned out that mostly Produced government supports. Were processed food calories that are essentially soy wheat and corn turn in all kinds of manner industrial food products and the Food Stamp Program serves about forty. Six million Americans wanted for kids. It's a really great support for these people who are struggling just with food insecurity so it's really helps solve food insecurity but the dark side of it is that it is driving these people to be more sick than have more chronic disease because the majority of calories purchase seventy five percent are junk and ten percent is soda. That's about seven billion a year. That's about thirty billion servings for poor every year. So there's the problem without a program is called snapper supplemental nutrition assistance. The problem is there's no nutrition in the assistant is all malnutrition and I think. There's a large effort to try to put nutrition back in the food stamp program. And I think that's where there's incentives for example for purchasing healthier food with double bucks farmers markets disincentives could be in place for food and I think there's ways to do it that are politically palatable. Challenges you know. I just had morally have a problem with the government paying for got many servings of Soda in when we know attributed Z. And coca-cola is the biggest welfare recipient in America with twenty percent of the American revenue. Coming from food stamps. Walmart is about you know. Probably Twenty percent of all food stamp dollars go to now. Maybe buying organic vegetables. I don't know but my guess is they're probably not and I think it's probably the biggest government programs it's the biggest component of farmingdale so really shouldn't be called a farm village in Gaul food bill and it's not. It's not seven hundred thirty five ninety our ten years and there's a huge fights on trying to improve the snap bill and in your book I detail house. A lot of congressmen and senators are bought and paid for by the food industry in our single. It's all about exercise. You know it's not really about not really about sugar foods and it's really about the actress ridiculous and totally contrary to what the research says. I have a personal story about this when I was Back in school and I was interning in a clinic but You know large underserved population primarily Latino and We had kids who were coming into our into the clinic. I mean this was a fifteen years ago and it was already a big problem with childhood. Obesity in that community and many of the the families were on food stamps and they were they the foods that they buy. One of the foods that You I would ask often what they were giving their kids and Often these kids were drinking like a leader of orange juice day and you know I would talk to the MOMS about it and they would say well. This is the I was told this was healthy. You Know Orange. Orange is a fruit and fruit juices healthy. It says right here. It would show me literature that they got about. You know healthy food choices. So oftentimes people are trying to do the right thing. But they're not getting the right guidance or support in choices that they're making you're right. I mean I was part of that movie set up. It went down the family in North Carolina South Carolina and they were struggling to lose weight. The father couldn't get any kidney less able to actually lose twenty five pounds. They were crying. Which finding the right thing and didn't really know how and and I went to the kitchen. They were having coup since Zero Trans Fats. On hopping or your salad. Dressings were full of refined soybean oil in high fructose corn Syrup and they thought that was a good dressing one thing after the other and they were trying to they just didn't know and I simply went through their kitchen took everything out of their coverage showed him what the ingredients were. Why the problem and they got it and I said well. Here's how you cook a simple meal from scratch using real ingredients which they never done and they were able to do game cookbook and a guy did eating well for less and they were able to lose two hundred pounds of family over a year. The son ended up going onto one hundred thirty eight pounds and go in and now as in medical school medical school that you know it's not that hard and they were leaving on food stamps disability one of the worst redundance in America and they were figuring out. He's thinking figured out like I think it's possible for all of us. Let's shift gears a little bit and talk more about the food system itself. I mean we one of the biggest issues of course we have this massively industrialized food system. Where processed refined foods comprised sixty percent of the cow Calories that Americans consume and you know one of one of the most common solutions that we often hear is that we should further industrialized food system. there was an article in the Guardian recent not too long ago by George. Mambi that really proposed lab grown food as the the solution to to our Food System Woes. What do you think about that? And if that's not the solution what what is on? I'm all for innovation. I think they're right. Text learn but actually I met with him of Aladdin's Memphis means growing lab grown meat and we were talking about the entire life cycle analysis of process. And like well you know. It's a very energy intensive process. It also uses far materials basically feed grain in other sources of Jim Amano Crops Comprom- industrial You know you can literally transform this industry by again regenerative egg crops and supporting those just like Darrel Nelson doing and now I think cal encouraging Denali Nestle until you could use renewable source of energy to fuel your farm. I mean they feel your clan. Kinda cool now food waste namen talked about but is a huge problem and in Massachusetts. They eliminated the ability of any companies. That make a ton of waste or more weeks it throw it out and farmers dairy farmers struggling to make a living and and it was really hard Sunday. Basically covers model where they build these anaerobic digesters on their farms. And they get you know three tractor trailers full of food waste every day they throw it in there and they throw some cow poop in there and it basically great electrcity fifteen hundred homes. It makes the rent the farmer one hundred grand a year since a lot because they on average farmers lose about sixteen hundred dollars a year ends food waste issue. Helps you manure problem? It's like a win win win. So there's a lot of great innovations around around things where they could frick for example power a lab meat based on that for example so. I I'm not against it by using probably solution and turns out and and isn't really exciting is is that we didn't talk about yet but the food industry as a whole and this was a shock to me is the number one cause climate change. It's also the number one solution and in the things that are driving our deforestation soil erosion factory farm animals food waste all the transport refrigeration crossing packaging of foods. When you add it all up. It's basically forty eight to fifty seven percent of our climate problem which is bigger than fossil fuel so we have to really think about a different way of farming reverse climate change and the good news is that way of farming coverage agriculture which is said William Building soil conserving water and less chemicals more diversity pollinator etc produces more food better food for the farmer building soil versing chains creating resiliency to drought floods and weather extremes and makes a farmer a lot more money in win win in creating great livelihood for people. I mean my my listeners will be familiar we just had. We'll we'll Harris From White Oak pastures. Who you probably from on the show. And he talked about you know like they. The the independent analysis by Qantas International. Found that they sequester three and a pounds of carbon per pound of beef produced whereas impossible Burger. Which is a you know. A LAB PRODUCED MEET FATE. Fake meat Is emitting three and a half pounds of carbon per pound of beef so it's it's impossible burgers certainly far less You know admits far less carbon than conventional beef which is Thirty three that comparison. But it's amazing. Regenerative Agriculture is actually net carbon sink. And is is more environmentally responsible way of of feeding people then fake me and probably last me although we we don't have an existing analysis on lab yet right. I think you know you can't see the world. It's not scalable but you know you look at all degraded land. We have in the world that needs to be We can and back the UN recently sad that we could stalk chained twenty years simply by taking to the five million hectares of degraded land around the world as spending three hundred billion dollars which is just about the military spending the entire world for sixty days that we could. We could convert two of the five million hectares of land back to Genoa bag. And that would stop by machine by twenty years that to me is staggering. I'm in my opinion. Yeah and and and give us food security because without soil healthy soil. We have no food security. We don't currently really know how to produce food without soil and none of the technological solutions that are being proposed. Do Anything to address the decline in soil quality. That is really again one of the most serious threats I think humanity is facing right now and not one. That's very well understood so that was shocking to me when I started reading about this. Un says we have sixty harvest left in the Obama Administration report on soil. They said eighty years left but we basically have running out of soil. These were turning it into dirt which can't grow food and and we are going to be screwed in its lobby a more rapid in existential threat than anything else. Even climate change is caused by machines I am. I only realize this is certainly didn't thirty. Forty percent of all the carbon in the atmosphere I'm twenty trillion tons of garment. Thirty four percent of it is from the loss of our topsoil over the last hundred years which is because of the way we farm and that to me was a shock. Because if that's true then the congress is true that we can put the carbon back in the soil using credible carbon carbon capture technology available everywhere in the world is three. It's been around for billions of years. It's called photosynthesis. Yes you know. Lately I mean is. The solution is not to eliminate farming. It's too it's too return farming to its roots really and and practice a way of farming. That as you said can restore so equality ecosystems and reduce the release of chemicals into the food system which I wanNA come back to into the environment and provide meaningful livelihood for people who are doing it. Yeah it's it's really notable to me that in the same way that you're talking about fixing the food system it doesn't just address our Diet. Nutrition quality it addresses so many of these social economic and environmental problems. Let's talk a little bit about chemicals so because we haven't touched that much on that yet we've got chemicals in our crops in in our food system we've got industrial agriculture massively You know contributing to this. We'VE GOT GENETICALLY MODIFIED PLANTS. Pesticides Toxins leaching into the ground. Contaminating offers rivers and streams entertaining the food supply. What are the impacts on this I know you did Of this and he did a lot of research on that in. How can we address? This is a lot of issues in the health. Risks of things like pesticides. Farmers Risk of Parkinson's is seventy percent higher than the ovulation You know we're seeing in custody. Sides being linked to cancer diabetes Digestive Diseases Mental Disorders. Some study seven kids this Forty one million. Iq points have been lost Exposed to pesticides these relationship. I'm not going to say. This is the most abundant chemical. That's used agriculture sentence herbicides. That are used on on so many plants and and it was. It's been banned in many countries. Here we just said he piece was saved us. Unfortunately by billion dollar losses that have been one because it's linked to cancer also causes destruction. The microbiome impossible Burger has one hundred ten times as much as required destroy. The microbiome of animal am like rats in animal studies. And so we're we're dealing with these horrible consequences on on People when you look at the Jamaica Study Hispanic Workers in Santa's valley which is aren't big cultural hub. Now fifty nine percent more likely get kimia seventy percent more likely to get stomach cancer. Sixty three percent more likely to get cervical cancer The forty percent unified pesticide new urine including pregnant and breastfeeding women. I mean it's a mess but I wanNA talk about for lines. I this was again used for me as I began to research. This you know fertilizer. How bad is at night again? What's the big deal but it turns out that the fertilizer is produced. It's it's a massive industry and is produced using a very energy in cancer process and number one users of natural gas and fracking are the fertilizer companies and fracking wells produce thirty percent more methane than conventional wells which is adding more to climate change. Then when you put it on the soil it turns nitrous oxide which is three hundred times more. Potent greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide and then it destroys a life in the soil so microbiology which is required to extract nutrients. It's required doing all these wonderful things. Does it kills it along with herbicides pesticides and then the run off of the fertilizer into our waterways rivers lakes streams and oceans eligib- loom sucks on the Out of the water ends up causing mass dead zones for example in Mexico is one of the Sizing Jersey which kills two hundred twelve thousand metric tons of fish. I mean who's paying from bat right and then there's four hundred these around the world. This is a Europe which half a billion people depend on for food. So how do we even start to think about that? And the goodness agenda agriculture. You don't need for migrant. Have ANIMALS MAKING FERTILIZER? You have class making the fertilizer and you actually make money from your Instead of costing so I think I think we we have to come to terms with this chemical industrial agriculture. From a number of points of view one is human health consequences the environmental consequences effect of these pesticides on pollinators. We've lost seventy five percent of our pollinators. That's terrible without ponders about soil. We can't grow the crops. I am so we have. We can't like we can't keep going this way and I actually like this is why. It's such an imperative why I wrote this book. Why did you departure for me? I think it's it's really a different kind of bugs me. It's a political book. It's it's about. How do we take action to solve these problems and in working with incredible team to actually create a whole campaign around this one of them's Republican strategists and? I'm I'm a Democrat. I'm like pretty clear about some of us on the book but I I. I was struck. Why why is the sky? Who's who's spent his whole life working on certain types of policies? Why would he take the time to come up and meet and be part of this initiative Read the book and we made it clear to me that this is the central issue our time and we have to solve it and I think this is one of the most important books of the last decade and I I just you know I feel like I need to be part of it. Sounds like wow? And he's like volunteering his time you know it's pretty. It's pretty impressive for him. I mean it's so clear that this issue cross political lions I mean maybe the proposed solutions might vary a little bit depending on one's politics for example you know the role of government regulation things like soda taxes. But I think it's virtually impossible to disagree. Whatever your political inclination is that this is one of the biggest challenges we face urgent that we address it. So tell us a little more about the campaign and how that's going to complement the book. I wrote the book because I felt like it was imperative to tell the story and that was the first now but what was really exciting to me. Is a number people reach out to me? They want to do something. Big Bigger and one of the guys was a guy who helped. Donald launches incredible one campaign that raised eighty seven billion dollars for AIDS and poverty really Africa through Congress and a bipartisan way. And he really knows how to run up in Washington and he's put together our whole team where we've got a policy group. A grassroots movement grew a business. You know C Suite Group for partnerships. I mean it's really really exciting and I think that there's a deep understanding of these issues in this group. You've got incredible. Champions are coming together to create this who got donors celebrities. We policymakers on board. So I feel like this is a really crucial moment where we actually make this happen. And and it's not whether whether current administration standard. I think there's ways of getting used on Washington that are a little below the radar and this is how we're going to work and be delivered strategic in. I'm so excited about doing is called the food fixed campaign and you can learn about it on her website. Food Fix Dot Com or dot Org With a sites coming up probably next month or so citing Israeli an exciting effort. Because I I. I'm worried about my children and their children. What does the future look like for? All of us and connecting the dots is been my life's work in and I began to think about feeding house in functional medicine but connecting dots that affect all these issues. That are for us to solve. I'm so glad that you you wrote the spoke mark now way is a bit of a departure for you but I I really feel like I agree on two percent with what others sad. It's it's for sure one of the most important books of the decade if not the century You Know I. I really believe that this is on the same scale as climate change in some of the other. Existential threats that that that we're facing and threatens humanity in a similar way so And I firmly believe as you know. We've discussed that. We won't be able to address this just by supporting individuals to make better choices because individuals are part of a system. They're part of this really complex web of influences Bit Are often unconscious and very very difficult to Avoid entirely because our basic brain programming is working against us in that way so I think change. I'm not you know Ab abdicating personal responsibility here. We all definitely have personal responsibility but I think we we really have to move beyond. No that was kind of the key insight for you yet recognizing this after doing what you've done for some for three decades that this is more this goes beyond individual choice. Exactly I mean it's it's It's such a bigger thing and we all can be part of it and I think you know. We often have discouraged and frustrated by state of things that were in no. We don't have the power to change things but we do. I mean just like what happened last few weeks. Quite the scene Kellogg's which you know in their cheerios. They were outed reading more like the state and vitamin A vitamin D. They announced they're going to phase out online state from their products by twenty twenty five. Which is fantastic. Which means it's going to change supply chains Change how Pharma's done General Mills. Same thing they are committed to a million acres regenerative ads nestle denounce. These companies are really focused on his issue. I are acting on it. Because consumers people like Ugo listening are making different choices demanding different things asking for different products. I see this happening and I was very skeptical about any movement in the food industry. But it's awesome and there's other levers people using financial leverage example investment. Levers where on this one guy. Jeremy Caller I talked about in the book I he. He essentially decided to gather Assets he's adventure primarily got any any got I twelve trillion dollars in institutional assets Antilles companies to get together to get all the big festival company. Ceo anti-biotics out of their feed chain by certain date. And it's not going to divest those companies so for example being invested into McDonalds. They're gonNA sell her shared not going to be good so they basically agreed they got twenty companies operating companies can get antibiotic sounded feet. So there's a lot of hope in. I think in this in this space lot of possibility and I'm really excited about absolutely. I am as well so I think a lot of people listening will want to get involved and be a part of the solution. So where can they learn more about the book and pick up a copy and if people want to get involved in this larger campaign? Is there a way to do that yet? Yes for sure? So food fix up dot or I'm sorry we Pittsburgh Dot com is the main website. And it'll come here for the campaign that's probably the easiest way to get it or still launching. It's GONNA official launch date. It's going to be made twenty twenty but It's it's pretty exciting. We've got forty five days strategy document. You got incredible networks together. Business leaders and scientists policymakers. And it's just really. It's pretty exciting. So I'm very very happy that you have in your podcast thing. It's really important to tell the story and I think we're in this moment in time where it's like acting the perfect moment. This all happened. Absolutely Markan I just have so much. Gratitude and appreciation for you and Having occurs willingness to write this book and you know get this message out there because I I really believe it's one of the most important of our time so thank you. Thank you okay. Everybody thanks for listening. Keep sending your questions in Chris Crutcher dot com slash podcast question. And we'll see you next time. That's the end of this episode of Revolution Health Radio. If you appreciate the show when it helped me create a healthier and happier world these head over to I tunes review. They really do make a difference if you'd like to ask a question for me to answer on a future episode. You can do that at Chris. Presser dot com slash podcast question? You can also leave a suggestion for someone. You'd like me to interview there. If you're on social media you can follow me at twitter dot com slash Chris Presser or facebook dot com slash. Chris Presser Al a C. I post a lot of articles and research that I do throughout the week there. 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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 238: Featuring Mike Sgroi

Spittin' Chiclets

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 238: Featuring Mike Sgroi

"Hello everybody welcome to episode two hundred thirty eight of Spin Chiklis present the by pink. Pink Whitney the pink lemonade. Flavored Vodka from our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka. Boys were coming to you from the mighty Mississippi for the NHL All Star game. This Saturday night. We got a full slate on tablets. Say what's up to the boys Biz. What's going on buddy? How you enjoying Saint Louis vast five? The Mississippi River is up to one. That's running by the arches. It is either Ole Miss Mighty mighty mother pick one up every day. What am I s Isis? I don't think anyone can spell Mississippi fashion. I can and that's actually impressive. Pretty impressive that of course is Ryan Whitney with Doug. What's up buddy? Not much pleasure to be here another all all star game huge jump off for us. Last year we went out on the west coast wagon tour and ever since then bugsy and teddy join. We kind of really took off as a podcast. This this is another all star game great interviews. Today we got some more big time ones lined up tomorrow and the next few days. So it's it's great to be here now. Listen I've had my beach shoot downtown. Saint Louis today didn't help their argument against mine in terms of it was a Wednesday and we didn't see one human being right around lunchtime downtown but we know the fan base is strong and we know. Come Friday Saturday the place. It'll be rocking so downtown. Has It tissues but still to pleasure to be here. What's the Will Smith movie? Where he's he's basically the only man left? I am legend. I thought we were in. I am legend yes today and I said it's holiday you know it's Wednesday still bill more active in San Jose San Jose and last but not least Mike g the producer Mike Riley. What's up buddy? What's up guys a lot in astrology? I spent all last last night going through Pictures and videos the west coast wagon timer. When did you add nostalgia to your bag of worms? I actually have the extensive vocabulary I says yes I just don't bring it to let me tell you something As somebody who does this for a living you got good words you gotta use them. I mean what's the point of having an extensive vocabulary. If you're just GONNA come on and grunt and growl and barely say anything. I guess. That's a good point. Come on it's like play to your strengths here. What was the point? You're making when I cut you off after an astrologer law style just from from all the pictures and videos of the West Coast Wagon tour. Bugsy Teddy gain on A. B.. He was awesome. He he was freed. And he's he's he's had a zillion beer since that trip. So good for him One of the funniest things about that triggers remembering back is when we went on on the roof after we woke up one morning in Venice and I had a bunch of scratch tickets and remember bugs. He goes how do you play them. you scratch them bugs. It was a night of Patty play scooping that he asked that question. So we're going to have to forgive Do you remember what Bugsy did did that night where I ate mushrooms. And then Bugsy told me to start hitting jewel and you look over. You guys are all giggling and I hit the jewel a couple more times and he goes have you have you ever smoked. EMT now it's like. Oh no no no no. I just took mushroom bike. So so I've start frigging prank. And he's like Yemen that's that's deemed he's like you just go take a wild ride. He's a calm. Everyone down and come back inside died in and he said it's it's just a jewel dude I thought you got. Bugsy I don't think I would is that. I don't know who it sounds crazy. It's also so we got a couple of other guys helping them this week. Pasha who's been here plenty of times. He's been around and chef Donnie as well so going to say thanks to those guys for helping. Just get into town. Last night got settled. Then we had a day of interviews like the width dogs said we've got several Blues Alumni on deck going to a nice Italian. Join tonight with PAL Joe. Vitale definitely look forward to that. But we are here for the All Star Game. We do have a couple couple of big updates. Foyer This lure just come over the Wire Austin Matt is will not be playing on the All Star game due to a nagging wrist injury. But he's still gonNA come to town saint lows. They'll do the thank you know. He's a youngster. That's Nice sees not going to skip off to the Bahamas or anything. Not that I blame him He's been replaced by Auto Brady Chuck. Who's got fifteen goals and twelve assists in forty thirty eight games Of course his brother Matt was already playing for. Wow It's the Pacific division so it's pretty damn cool to Saint Louis Brothers in Saint Louis. Both plan with the whole family has saw. Aw Nice little story. So far for the game has been played yet wit. I mean how cool is that you get to be not only making all star game you with your brother in your home hometown where your dad was a star. I mean it's like Everything's a lining up perfectly for that family and Matthew Chuckling. He deserves it right. I mean he's been playing playing the game clean. He's been playing the game on the straight narrow. Though I love it I mean I obviously we're biased. I'm big fan of both those guys ambig- walt but I think the the the chance to be an NHL all stars like you dream of winning the Stanley Cobb AB dream winning an award and definitely right after that plane and All Star game or games so to get that to get to get the chance to do that. Where you grew up where hockey's certainly exploded as you've grown up? I mean both those kids have kind of been the wave of Saint Louis Talent that we've talked tabun all these high picks that they have and it all goes back to Keith playing here with all the other alumni. So it's just A. It's a very special weekend for for hockey city. That after winning the Stanley Cup is finding the more so on the map and people realize how great a place it is to play. Damn you killed back I am feeling it right. Now listen we crushed in Mississippi. Mis Isis Ip Biak Ivan Ivan Ivan. Like working my bag off all day and people think these interviews reading. They're not sometimes. You GotTa really grinding. We've done that now. We're recording and this is the easier part so I am buzzing. I am making a lot of sense and I do have a lot of facts going through my head right now and for you to call me out and basically say that you're doing a good job means a lot because once once in a while when you get a compliment from a CO worker goes a long way I say. Did you get into my mushrooms when I was gone. No I actually like dead sober. I mean you had a beer But just a touch on the CA- chuck thing. This is about the fans. The fact that the Ottomans added Brady's a no brainer In this town is is going to get the C two of the kids that they basically brought up in the hockey world because it takes a village we know that all the Minor Hawk I love which is all the xt mates. They're going to be proud to see these guys going. Head to head. And the three on three competition Ari absolutely. I can't wait. I'm not sure. Do even though who square off squaring off who. I haven't seen any lines yet. So that's that's I'm guessing it's uh-huh it's Metro Atlantic Pacific central so. I thought you meant where guys replaced as far as the skills were concerned. But that's just getting too far and details but oh that's when you're just like please don't put me in fast skater. Unless you're mcdavid. People don't necessarily want to do that one I would. I would agree with that and come to find out. The three on three for the females is on Friday so that will beef up the skills competition as well. So now we have two days to look forward to the All Star game In the fact that Matthews is still common which. I don't know if they're forced to do that even though they're injured I could imagine he could've probably stayed home or went on vacation. Considering he is in fact injured occurred. I think he would have still miss the game while regardless Kudos to him for still coming into joining the festivities I think that for one of the young superstars and league. He is down down to to be around smile and interact with fans and does like that spotlight. Where that's not a bad thing fucking need guys like that in order to grow this game? So Kudos Kudos to him and it's going to be an awesome week. We had another significant replacement as well. Chris Kreider replaced Perrin opinion withdrew to a UB. I the The bread man has been a one to the season. Come on Biz. Everybody's going good tonight. Twenty six goals forty two assists in forty seven games. The rags is still pinpoints out. But he's been fucking head and shoulders every worth every cent they've given them so five no doubt about it absolutely and and a lot of people disappointed because there is a guy who is very popular with the fans and You know he's he's not shied. Ashore was personality. He's got that crazy hair now and he will recently. He's been kicking the air. I think he did that. Prior to this season I'm now I'm like guaranteeing I'm wrong almost but I'm almost positive that he did that leg kick before either way scrape celebration. You show the flexibility you show the power show the strength in your Qua- in your quad and your Hammy so the issue I have with the whole thing. Is that it sucks. You can't go but I- Chris Kreider is the replacement was a little bit surprising to me. And you know you look at like the season Savannah. Jazz had no. I don't know the health of these guys and even like Ryan Strom now. I'm going through the list of scoring for the for the Rangers. But Chris Kreider is isn't exactly like the guy you're dying in a three on three all star game. Yeah he's fast. Shitty might be exciting as hell in the skills competition but you gotta lean more towards the ask the real high level skill for this game. I feel like you're still hating on them. Because of that off how you went to BC. Not to be. But I was. I was making a joke on the fact that you posted a video recently of the worst offside and NHL history. And I believe he was a part of goes he just skated ten feet off side and fast and but he also also didn't really realize he was. Offside why don't you dump the Puck in because you're going off next to go maybe in the case of players replacing players they actually ask the guys. Hey there's something you want to do as opposed to getting voted and maybe the asset managers these like not doing. I'm going to Hawaii. And maybe he's maybe. AP's got few DJ sets. Do you think helps the Rangers. Because they're trying to create Kreider and now that he's an all star. They're probably got a bit more for Fan Saint Louis one of his Islamic spots. I'M GONNA say no I'm GONNA say like when you're doing that trade if it goes down in the rangers dealing with deadline like him making the All Star game isn't going to bring you you back anything more. I don't think I mean I think it would be a shot in the dark whereas maybe eighteen mike the Luster of all use. It all starts easier to sell to your fan base. I mean people blurred duped and whoever whoever's agent is will try that Shit right absolutely no no doubt about it. We also got some really good news for US guys next. Yeah we did find out the All Star game who is still in business is going to be done in. South Florida is the panthers will host it so we don't have to worry about packing pants. which are you going to show you Alexa off? But at least you'll be able to bring the clubs sore. You think one. I'll be on camera with my gosh with shorts on no chance and to sorry. We're going to be playing golf every day. I'm not don't book for one interview. Next All Star game. I'll just be sweet pink Whitney sweet well these pillows to haul my God. Are you kidding me. Talk about a great pillow. We get the back. I mean this is bad podcasting. I guess I forgot. We weren't on video even though there's a camera in front of us but don't worry about me next year in Florida at the All Star stargate. Trust me I'll find a fun fun way to enjoy my weekend down there. I'll be an all star in life. Maybe we could have Brian and Keith down. Join US similar how to to Bugsy Tidy pursell helped us. So who knows Keith. Yandell the all stay. You know who I know. We'll get down there and I'm going to beg him to come onto doesn't we're going to hunt them down outside of his house. Is Roberto Longo. Now he just retired. He's he won't come on with us. I feel that he's hysterical. I listen he he needs a little time away. He wants to decompress. Yes you want to count as money like scrooge mcduck is at the guy's name huge mctighe dive in his safe through the money. That's Roberto Longo Right now with down in Florida. But I think by then we're going to be able to rope them in and as I said if not we'll just kidnapping Pasha like Roberto Longo. You look like Roberta Roberta Lago intro. Check had a baby mark Anthony and Mark Anthony. He's definitely got the mark. Anthony Dushi nece onto the next. I saw some goings on Chicago Sunday. Night Patrick Kane scores one thousand. Nhl Point when he assisted on Brandon Saad third period goal in a five two win over the jets and and in doing so became the fastest American to one thousand points beaten J. by almost a year I mean what I think. He's safe to say he's one of the top two or three in the conversation. Asian greatest American forwards. Ever know when it's all said and done you're looking in your watching. What will be known as the best American hockey player ever Not Not just my opinion. It's a fact and if you're talking about Mikey Grenell bringing in big words like nostalgia to the vocabulary of this podcast. Let's talk about the night in Chicago the other night because not only did Pacha can get on it with a gold plate or whatever was an tiffany vase surveys. Christopher don't even know where thousands called I they got gold puck there. You go go pocket. Tiffany vase vase thing. You're then getting to witness on unbelievable ovation for the best coach in Blackhawks history. In Joel Quenneville. So I know him leading into a second subject but the fact that it was all one game in terms of Cain getting the celebration because it happened the prior fire and Quenneville returning home to not one not two not three but I think four different standing ovations if you're a blackhawks fan that is full. Blown Nostalgia astrologer because you think back and you get to see Cain and what. He's done what he's meant to that entire organization and the man who basically helped him get it all done in Quenneville so that night was awesome to see. I'M GONNA call it the network for whoever puts on the Blackhawks Games because they didn't even get the fucking TV they didn't even get the the live Quenneville feature on the scoreboard on the television. If you weren't at the game hawks fans at homes weren't they didn't get to see it. Live those those special special television that that those people. I should've been able to witness. So the whole night was awesome Kane Kane's Ability to continue to just light up this league as as he gets older last year which I think is best year ever and I. It's just shows that his hockey IQ is above everyone else's so he's got the hands the skills the vision but the way he thinks the game is what is the true like gives him the true ability to like change games. I mean you could set it anymore perfectly. And if I actually would've listened to that and while in the air at that altitude I probably would teared up and although there is one debate are we considering Brat halls and American or Canadian. Why well because you said by the time he's done he'll be the greatest? American hockey player of all of the threat hosts considered an American. And he's he's better than okay. All right fair enough browse better goal scorer but overall the career. I think I think Patrick Kane has it. I think I definitely think by the time it's all said and done. He probably would have surpassed them. I just I think that maybe are a from a different generation. That may be up for debate but other than that with that was That was a ton of time. The one thing that was a little disappointing was actually I shouldn't say disappointing but the Blackhawks fans. They really gave it to call him when he was announced that night and they had one five in enroll going into the game. Ra Congratu off the snide Florida. Got That win you pick them. He's he's back in the game but in a special night and understanding that the crowd loved Quenneville when villainous so happy to see him back. The hawks complain some good hockey so the new guy gets gets Buddha. I mean I. It's almost like you feel a little bad for them but still overall overall just a a a great evening and the Hawks didn't get the job done but you almost feel right seen Quenneville get a win when he's back there the other news on Tuesday to a dustup not not used to seeing Jonathan Duncan Keith. I mean these guys are two future hall of famers used see in skirmishes and practice all the time. But it's usually not to future hall of fame especially you guys who won three Cups Biz. What do you think was behind that? I mean. It didn't seem that one hundred percent serious but it wasn't all that playfully. I think the same thing I thought when I saw it happen and Saint Louis just last year that there's no way From the outside looking in at least for my perspective is that could be a bad thing. You have to guys who clearly still care who who based on what they've accomplished. Some guys might have checked out by then but they're still they're still some fire in there and you mentioned that five game win streak Before losing to to Florida the other night But I think that this is this tells me that that older core group still have some passion there and I was reading some some comments online. Like oh you need to control your emotions more blah blah blah this. I think you'd be naive to not consider this a positive I. Ah that sounds crazy. Because they're like fighting so in the end it's like. How was it happening in pre game skate? That's what I was wondering if it was pre game skate. Yes yes yes definitely an odd time concerned. There's battle drills with eight an argument over like a TV show or movie. What the fuck started that? They were doing like the skill drill. When you go around the center? Ice Thought wouldn't want if there is one show that could could probably make some fight. It might have been the the ending of the. What's the fucking one that just ended? That had a terrible end. Gaining thrones game of thrones. Sorry I draw one. That had the terrible the shots thrown either terrible endings but there was one specifically that that's all I read about online for fucking three weeks. I never even watched the show. So that's a a has as the video that showed it from the beginning. I only saw the one where they like getting up. He's already over there video of the fight actually going on no and actually I actually dug into it. It was actually just them tickling each other on the ice and people thought that there was something going on. There is having a ticketing fight. So let squash all the rumors about that scrap and the thing about Quenneville going back to that. Quick is in any press conference I've ever seen of him and talk and the guys he's I don't think he comes off as a very emotional Oceana guy you know. He's giving you quick answers. He's kind of guys guy. You know what I'm saying but you could see like a little tear in his. I think the third or fourth time the videos they showed. And if you think back no matter how tough of a guy you are in this the three Stanley cups what he called push their i. It would have been near impossible for for anyone not to be emotional and come back and seeing all that and the one cool thing to wrap it up at the end after the game he said I I'm just Kinda like guests on this Claudia paraphrasing that there was no bitterness whatsoever like in in the way it ended and leaving and even though at the beginning you certainly have. You felt certainly one way. Mean when she go back and you've moved on it's like there's closure and and I think that that was just great for all the fans get to see us. He basically summed it Pakistan. The memories completely overshadowed any type of as he might have what it takes a little while. You know what I mean. And and it's been been long enough now for where he's he's he's he's completely moved on and Florida's playing good hockey. They won six in a row and they've covered every single over this year. And and I thought once I set it that it would stop. But it hasn't no they just score goals. I since you've said it. It might be unbeaten. Somebody sent me the list. I think they were Second at the time I'm in the League as far as covering their overs and they were pumping it like eighty six percent. Yeah they're playing like one thousand nine hundred eighty style hockey. It's winning and like I've said before Bob ever gets adds to the level. He was at in the playoffs last year. Lookout man they're gonNA cause some fucking damage in the playoffs eight lyrically. I haven't dove into a shocker But I would imagine that. Maybe if they're if they're controlling play their outshooting teams may be. It's it's tough for him to get settled in a role where he's not relied upon his heavily and and he's finding it harder to get into games because he's not seeing those now another ultimate spins on deferred fence of Karachi it. That's that's the mental aspect and I'm just. I'm just spitballing here. I don't know 'cause I'm fucking spoken to him. Another aspect L. A. N. Y. brought up analytically Likley was because they play so run and gun and that eighty style of hockey. How many high quality scoring chances are those shots? They are giving up our from dangerous the areas and I haven't dove into that 'cause I don't dive in the analytics but those are just some things to consider as to why maybe he is having struggles in Florida hopeful hopeful. I'm sure that families based on what they've invested in this guy he can turn around and learn how to play up to his quality of goaltending under his. Now new circumstances stances and now I'm fucking buzzing. Because Year by Mike he pulled it up Washington's first and League at hitting the over Florida's second. They're both sixty four percent at me on the back. It's a great job and I actually noticed number one team in not hitting the over going under Dallas. In every time I can take a Dallas game. It's to nothing three one so thoughts out to that one Like you said that clause what do that was awesome. I mean even if you're a fan of the team and not it was such a fucking long applause. Not used to seeing from a guy from another team. And you know one thing coach shoes got one of the all-time dust is in. NHL History. And I'd better uses a Philips one way to keep looking fresh like that Philipson. Circle has the most innovative electric crewmen products. That help you do what feels right. The Philips norelco one blade is the one to that will let you trim edge and shave any length of here with a single pass. It's easy to use US for both face and body. Perfect for Miami. If you're going down for that football game or rough and Rowdy your style is made simple one blade does it. All go to Phillips dot com slash norelco Bass tool to save five dollars off the Philips Norelco one blade face or the one blade facing face and body shaver by using the code. Check let's so get on that. Check that out. Also some other goings on in that game in Chicago hobble. Frank Vitriol Western mass represent got US fourth Hattrick of the year the other night there were three teams with four hattricks Edmonds in Boston and Washington. And he's got four all his own. That's like I mean it's anomaly but it's fucking hilarious. Another thing too about that game. Did he not have all three goals in the same period he may have. I had but I'm not sure I think he had them all in the same same period which is remarkable and he's just a goal-scoring machine called a natural hat trick. I think isn't it no natural when you get them all in a row teams like three team goals in a row. I I don't know if they can. They be special teams or the three goals in a game in a row not the other team scoring and also I don't fuck it. No I think it's your this is going to be. The people are going to be fuming in their car. Right now like some dude dude dude is on the highway in between Calgary Edmonton and I you morons unnatural Hattie. I had one last night. Men's league a three goals in a row for your team. No Mix ins from anyone else so sorry reckon in red deer. That was fucking Nice. What else are we also do? How about Nola Chari Harry Reid? He's got eighteen goals. Already in forty six games played. He had eighteen in his first foyer and Boston combined. One hundred eighty games played as a buddy climbing. Might it's a he might win the fuck and Cy Young Award with eighteen and three record right now teen goals three assists. Yeah Yeah and I forget against what team the other night. But he ends up getting the winner with under five seconds Minnesota Against Soda and there's another collapsed by unbelievable surgical tip and quickly quickly going back to the guy that Boston would. You say they gave up bottom a little bit early. Dogged them too. Yeah I can take it up like I only smart enough and doesn't make plays but his shot is so good and he's so fast he's actually Kinda Kreider. Bikaner remind me of each other and and I believe the Toronto is from Massachusetts right but transom. Yes last Springfield Area Tattoo of Springfield on. That's right Sometimes Navy plan at home just that actually added pressure now. He's in Florida place to fly under the radar and not have to deal with friends and family constantly asked him but the bruins maybe maybe that's benefited as careers. Well back to Charlie. I think the Bruins just had him pegged as a fourth line and they weren't going to pay him more than X.. Amount of dollars obviously Florida off it to him and my first instinct Shipman. Maybe the Bruins weren't utilizing the utilizing the way they should and I looked his shooting percentage. This year is twenty four point seven so I think he's. He's got a pretty good dosa. The puck luck. I mean not to say he. He is allow Atlanta. But maybe the bees probably should have had them in a couple different roles. But that's a that was a crazy fast to be leading the shot percentage Senate by probably ten percent for people who have over fifteen goals yet. So that is fucking nuts is pretty but either way I hate to see him go. I love this game Lotta Lot of sandpaper to what I think. He's a perfect in a bottom six role. It's nice that you picked that out because a lot of people are probably like could've been a superstar here whereas you know he's a guy who now he's getting a little bit more of a role there and in a season where he's really taking advantage but once the dust settles he may in fact be exactly what they thought he was. Yeah yeah a lot. A lot of his goals and this is not a knock. Its right place right time. He just you know in the right spot a lot of times you know a little bit though Selecta also play. He's playing In three minutes more per game this year so I mean granted. That doesn't seem like a ton but it ends up adding up and this the shooting percentage it will always. Let's go back to the mean at some point so yeah this year. He's hot but man it's it's unfortunately no it wasn't as contract here but still it's nice to go in and make a huge difference. I would I would definitely use that argument as well. The fact he's playing three minutes more game and some people like if if if let's say he's all of a sudden going from the twelve minute range to the fifty minutes range. You're so much more in the rhythm of the game. Where which it's it's very hard to describe to fan but most nights I would play under five? I felt like I was completely out of it every shift I I was going one hundred miles an hour out there. We're now he's kind of like in the flow of the natural pace of the game. And maybe that is why he's popping. Why shooting percentage has skyrocket? And I think that if if you're going to try to find a complaint about the Bruins in this awesome awesome run. They've had this year's toughness that physicality so the Chari scoring is just a kind of a double whammy of the fact that you miss how hard he played. I mean that guy. I was a beast. You saw what he did to poor Wieger I mean he he was. He's a hard guy to play against in Boston. Not a bad problem to have. If you're the bruins where like you're having to make tough decisions. Not like guys like that goal but they got guys in the pipeline so What else really? Well we go from hot to cold and I think the only thing called the me gambling right now might be the Winnipeg jets jets. They've lost four out of five seven out of ten ten out of fourteen They're a team. There you know could have won the Cup last year. They were certainly contend the this year they just can't seem to get had it all together on the right page with. I know you had a few things you wanted to say about them. Yeah just A season that was kind of doomed to fail from the start. Start when when when the whole buffalo news came out and a team. That didn't really even have a good defense with Boffin. All of a sudden doesn't have him You look at like China win in this league with N- not not enough top. Sixty men is is near impossible because you talkable goaltending and scoring but Winnipeg's back end. It's not good enough right now. So they they have times when they're able to score and then they have so many times when they can't defend and five on five they have they have no ability to get flow in like dominate teams. Five five and you have to be able to win games like that as much as a special special. You'll teams league. It is if you're a five place just horrendous. It's going to be impossible to be consistent. So they're on this tailspin now and you just look at like. There's not much that's coming back. I mean they'll get a couple of guys couple guys back from injury but no one enough to be able to say like all right. Well that's all they need to get going again. And there's been plenty of question marks about the goal tending. I don't think halibut's been been that badly but it's just like a a team with all this promise. They lose their best demand right before the a year and ever since then and along with the WHO else did they lose was Tyler Myers all they lost the guy to To The New York Rangers who signed after they had to train them. Fuck how it's not coming into my head. Oh trueba true shirt. Like I'll actually saying you gotta give credit a Peon. Who came over from the Rangers has looked awesome? Awesome He is like he's been a a really bright mark for them. But it's the other is in the ability like not build out your own and not be able to defend and they do have some guys is up front. Who who need to get the puck speed? They need to be able to like get a break. Oh Pass on their tape in Winnipeg it. It doesn't happen and it's just difficult this day and age age to go out and get that free agent defenceman In Winnipeg fans. Don't take this as an insult. You're not exactly the first spot that a free agent defenceman wants to sign line and if you guys are going to get him it's probably going to be an overpayment And also I don't really know who's available here close to the deadline assuming assuming that Buffalo's not coming back this year. I don't know as anyone heard anything about that. No I think there's going to be a big beef about the money that we've talked about before I think before that get etc we're not going to seem on the ice so I mean it's it's it's evident that the you know the top six even top nine forwards. There are not the issue they're going to have to go out and land a defenseman and if if they want to even have a snowball's chance in hell taken they were just in a playoff spot. I mean they were playing good hockey and things at certain a turnaround after that the stumbling out of the gates but It's it's IT'S GONNA be tough to sustain the winning if you just don't have a back end if you're spending too much time in your own end. That's what I was GONNA say. The one civilized about this slide is that as bad as they have been. They're still just three points out of the second wildcard spot with two games in hand so you know if they can get through this based on how they could end up in the playoffs and the one of the athletic that a pretty good piece on them this week but in shadow to the athletic for not writing like newspapers used to expletive deleted like instead of putting swear and they just throw. This is right in there for years. You never saw that you know read newspaper stories. Just Donald Hall. If I was a writer that would be me. It'd be like fuck. Fuck Fuck Fuck faulk. Faulk the end sit there like sick and business fans are still a great article twenty. What hey we're both readers? We know who we are crush. My girl for me base. Christ Azima some goofy stuff. I guess we uncalled the hurricanes after they beat the jets Tuesday night with the storm surge. We've had some fun with that will. After the game the other night they played dodgeball. I mean it wasn't a full game. They just kind kind of goofed around for a little bit. I talked to Sarah Sivy and the report the athletic she says No. It wasn't a full game. They just fucked around but I would you take on. It is like. Is this going to get your point like this is just fucking ridiculous or is it having fun. Who is I mean? I definitely think that the line is definitely being teetered on next. They're going to have a UH gladiators they're shooting the tennis balls from from from one of the goals. American gladiator BASHO'S I've I mean I would do anything I loved when they they had to win to be the Guy Shooting you with the rocket tennis balls and The one where you jump down and you got a springboard and grab the balls and then put him back in your basket ascot. That was a fun one. Yeah Yeah but it was all about at the end trying to like the Aggro Crag nickelodeon charges combined the game shows. Let me tell you something. You could talk about dodgeball. Being the one. That's like. Oh my God this. This thing had gone to the moon when they had a basketball who there and they were like Dunkin on each other like I. It's already been long gone in terms of craziness so you might as well go completely ape shit hit now you can re reenact the Pacers Pistons Brawl but have it all be like with actors. Fan Jumps the Ice Justin Austin Williams soccer's But it's all part of the storm surge. Sally I I will give them props though they have been creative about finding new ways in order to have these the storm surges. I bought the Halloween trick or treat one although obvious was genius right. That's a really funny on Cherry. Here's his top ten list. What let's let's try to think of a few off the top? What would be another ridiculous storm surge? Maybe they'll actually take our gosh. I don't know I don't know it's just something I don't have the top may I would think from a movie or a TV show. Gladiator like no. What's Breif hot like? All I have make up on his face like Mel Gibson style. Here's one maybe Maybe there were already done it because I don't watch every game Musical chairs due. They should have. They should have a healthy scratch. Dress up in a full-blown NHL issued uniform of the team. They just beat. And bring 'em out with an open casket and then give it a funeral to that guy because they just buried the team. Vince McMahon like you bring like a guy in a Penguins Jersey and then like the caskets open and those fewer starts and they slam shot in the crowd goes nuts dark but like talk about just burying your enemies no pun intended. I'm down with IT I. It won't go down. I don't think we'll see that one anytime soon but I'm trying to think outside the box right now. Maybe they could do a ladder match you look to the royal rumble in brush stage in. Well we all know acting are sorry we all know wrestling's fake and they're actors so maybe two guys can play characters get two of the healthy scratches to play Play a whole match maybe even lower down a cage wjr and and and then put the tax out. He had the pads on so the tax on the healthy scratches. They'd have to have costumes costumes. All they have to have like a ray mysterious mask on. It was such a big wrestling fan so I like wrestling. Yen's used to watch him and Jason The barber. I used to watch all the old matches together on the plane. And I'm like you guys already know what happened though. They would look back at me like I had five heads like fuck you so anyway and we had to become one little controversy on Long Island. Even though the island is beat their crosstown rivals the ranges buried trot sat baas off of the whole third period sending a message. Did you cross afterwards. He was asked about trump said. He's fine he knows why that's between Madiba's on the coach would little bit of a smile on his face so you know he just got a little too individual Joel Intransigence Sorta just reminded me. I'm the fucking Bosnia. Well I mean I guess I'll start I've mentioned on the fucking podcast before that. There's a validation nations talk to now. Listen some of you Fox online you come out me and you know what you know what I did is I kind of backed off because I don't really want to stir the pot because maybe they have kind of figure things out and and and I I use the words creative conflict all a timeless and matthew bars elves and artists. He he steps on that fucking ice in the way he works as he's funds Easel. He's an artist. He is his poetry in motion. Okay and sometimes times his thinking and his self interests are maybe not in line with the teams or Berry Berry Trots has dealt with personalities. One comes the mind in Alexandra vetch skin he had to finally get him to buy in and sometimes with the talent that these guys are it is difficult to to get through to him. Map Barzel is very young and early on in his career where there might be also things going on in his head where he's feeling like well if I'm sacrificing my offensive numbers in order to pay the structure game that trots wants. What's going to happen to contract negotiations? And that's what I said the first fucking being time I talked about it. And some of you fucking peasants online dismissed it and you and your little fucking people were like. You're making that up and I respect brexit. You you did. You did back off did you. Didn't want no smoke at the time but look what happens. Now Biz a little validation in your life because let let me tell you something for a guy to assist in the first two periods and to get benched the entire third period and this isn't just a player that is is like a maybe a random to assist in in a game guy. This is your best offensive player. That is a message that is loud and clearly being sent by Berry Charts that I don't give a shit. How creative you are? I don't give a shit how bad you want to try to make something special happen every time you get the puck. We do not play hockey like that. We're not going to win the Stanley Cup. which you guys won't anyway? Sorry I understand. We have no chance of winning the Stanley Cup without playing the structure. That has been here since I got here. And I'm not saying Berry Charter Sane. This I'm saying that's kind of how it's going. I mean like this guy knows exactly how this team needs to win and so matt parcel you get in the offensive zone you get down below the dots you try and do whatever you want. That's what makes you an artist is saying. But when you're at the offense to the defensive blue align don't turn the puck over and I'm not even saying that's exactly where and when the turnovers happened. That's exactly what it was but it was a which was an obvious move. It was an obvious What's the word I'm looking for? Who is an obvious decision by Trots in that he was doing something that that eighteen cannot have be done regularly and win games now? Perfect time to set an example. I believe they were up three at the time on the turnover. The other team did not go back in score so they're going into that third period. I believe check. If I'm wrong. Here are a up three. Nothing so trots probably thinking. Hey we don't need anymore goals we. We can probably finish this game without him. But I need to send that message now now going back onto what. I talked about the first time in the fact that everyone thought I was completely full of. Oh Shit is something has to happen here. There has to be a break in the levee is Matt Bars L.. Going to buy into what Berry Trots is selling. I'm not saying saying he has to. I don't know what their relationships like. I don't know what's being said in that locker room. Now if he's not clearly there's going to be communication between Berry retracts and Lou Lamoriello and saying is this guy going to eventually buy in and if not what do you do. I think that that eventually this this this is GonNa be fine and and and we're just kind of diving very very deep into it but come contract time as I said the first time. Do not not be shocked. If there's a little bit of a holdout islanders fans and I guess I can just leave it at that but when I say things like that and I and I make comments I would never never make a comment like that without having any prior knowledge of it. So I'm not gonNa tell you where I get my information but if I'm saying something like that on the podcast don't don't you fucking come out so all you fucking islanders fans who did I just fucking bent you over I think no spit sandpaper fairness. I think what you're trying to say. Is that any take. You have moving forward. No one could tweet at you disagreeing or calling you out. So nobody's allowed to give you any sort of negative feedback on twitter. Just I'm just saying if you are you're GonNa come let me by my opinion. I would expect that you say hey. I was one of those people that came at you. I'm sorry for coming at you. You're right I want the fucking. Hey I took my chin and so should you. He's the no sturdiness. Oh that's a good night Grenell. He's got a lot Boston. Rank question. Bizet was Three Nafta to coincidentally basell to assist and then the maid at Ford nothing early in the third which even gave trots more incentive to sit him and of course basell will be era fay after this season and he did end the plan only fifteen minutes in that game the other night so I say I offer Sheet City Hall. Fuck I think he gets. It's offer cheated right there. Well I'm not gambling all my chips that I just one on on an argument but I'm willing to by the way we got word you'll hear in a later chocolates interview that we did today. That Lula murrow just not happy with the question on this podcast. You're never going to hear one. 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So the guy basically had a slam dunk. I mean I don't know how laughable it is in the cage l. but it's funny money is fuck over this. Well he's daddy good no one eulogy written. Or what have you got the Tim Stapleton fucking street and Russian K.. Chill game storm serves. If they were the hurricanes they just have government built soon army machine that just washes away all the fans and they're just doing Russian gas ASA fucking hookers in the ice big orange. You fucking FEM DOTS for four hundred bucks. Each all man Ivan's over oversaw ignore Eager Gore breaking off off. Because those things don't happen speaking creek and off I just saw that Oh Boy Stapleton was inducted into the Illinois state like Hockey Hall of fame or something so shadow to use tapes. That's a hell of an accomplishment. Buddy your your hall of Famer the sandbags will be coming out soon. Which is sponsored by? Tim's boy as well so body. Beef Jerky all God is guys it. It's not beef Jerky Biltong. It's no sugar. Thirty two grams of protein and half the amount of sodium radium that beef Jerky has biltong. Is the next wave. Jump on it and I speaking of Russians Guinea Malcolm and had some pointed comments rezoned fans after they booed Goalie Matt. Murray during the Bruins game the other day when they felt that fell behind three hundred quickly he said it was stupid. I'm not understanding. Our fans Muslim two cups APPS for us you boo him. Why if you come to the arena? Support our team all of us. We try we place so hot. This year we worked so hard to injuries. We play good hockey. Maybe not last couple Games not early this game but we try. I understand you pay money for ticket. You do what you want. But it's tough to sit on the bench and here that I don't like it. We have that in Philly Pittsburgh Berg and you probably remember idol the late Cincinnati bengals coach Sam White when one time the Cincinnati Bengals fans act. Because you don't live in Cleveland and Cincinnati. This is like old rival video. That sort of reminded me of I I love to see this because it it shows that that it can be hard on players and like I know. There's so many fans out there. I've had this argument with friends. Hundred Times where fully especially especially for can mutant Foley's like fans can do whatever they want. They pay arm and a leg to go to the game. They WANNA boost when they can boost and one hundred a percent. That's that's a fact. I'll agree with that. My my thing is you're a donkey dude. If you're there booing someone if you're a grown male adult holt and your legit screaming boos at somebody on the ice playing a game trying as hard as they can euro loser so Malcolm's kind of saying that in a nice way like this guy has had an awesome career as a penguin as short as it's Ben. He's got two Stanley Cups. He's having a tough go of it. And you guys are doing them now. That's the fan. There's so many people are shaking their head at me right now. Listen but you're an idiot because I'm telling you right now to boost somebody if you care it all about the team and you want the team to win. What is that doing? What good are you doing? While blind got prime example. That is I go to the game Vancouver the other night and every time Tyler Myers got the PUCK. If it wasn't right off the stick you could just feel the tension in the building and I fuck and said to the in my section like some people around roundout. Mike Mike. You guys are all over the sky like you're not helping your situation like he he. His anxiety is probably through the fucking roof roof of Rogers. Rogers arena right now. Because he feels that you hate his guts. I I can feel it I I was blown away by how I don't mean ragged on this because I'm bringing it back to Arizona fans but like there's not a guy in the lineup right now where that happens or in recent memory. So it's it's I mean some fan bases can be extremely hard and as you said what you're not well let me give you some legit personal experience. And I've I've talked about all the time where I joke around like like you know that I I was. I was terrible for many parts of my career. But it's easy to joke about it now. It was horrible dude. And when you when you're when you're getting paid money and I'm not saying Murray's going through any of like the same type of issue in terms of fan base hating you that I did but I know Oh for a fact when you're home fans are booing you. It is the worst feeling in the world I had so much anxiety about it and it was so brutal. 'cause I was talking to my dad. Who helped me through my entire life and career and talking to other people and like you're sitting around and you care so much if so much pride to make the money you make can you're trying so hard and nothing's going right and so even the games that start off good and you have a good I two periods? If one mistake is made you start hearing it again ball and it's meant and it's it and I'll admit it's it's not having Like you're like my mental game was not where it needed to be dude. I didn't I didn't have the framework that you needed to battle through it but I'm not GonNa sit there and say it's easy because when you care about what you do and the people that like a rooting for all your teammates in her that you know love the team so much if they all can't stand you do it sucks on. This is also help the rink named after me pillow. I'm holding but you know what I'm saying. I mean this is this is like it's time in in these guys lives ever battles that year like I need this fucking change immediately. In the harder you try the worse it is and we're also talking about a guy was helped them win two Stanley Cup getting the Bronx Cheer Ten seconds into a game. We'll have you done for me lately. How are you like it's just? It's it's the way of fan thinks I'll forever be baffled by I aggregate that I say that because I played at the highest level. I don't really care because you are insane in the way you act towards player and we're not being biased bias. Because we love Pittsburgh and and their hands but they are very hard fan base because remember when Marc Andre Fleury was going through that tough stretch where it was like a football ballgame when they played the flyers and playoffs the one year it was like seven six every game the most wild first round playoff series. I've ever seen in my life. And they wanted him on that. They wanted flower out. That was when he was a dark dark time and flurries career so Ease off on Murray guys. He's done a lot for you and also fairly the recent. When did you have a motherfucker? Fan was face or do you just like Catholic. Never crossed outline mother fucker about a thousand fans face if you came up to me in the bar which plenty of people didn't you're playing so bad I'm like why are you playing buddy. Get outta my face right now. What are you supposed to do like what are you gonNa sit? Take it if they're gonNA come up to me. I'm at least going to be like body. What are you doing for a living? Did you play hockey growing up better than you. I mean I'm trying my hardest. She wanted. It's a somebody and say to their face. Your your lose this is this is the same thing is born. I'm it's that's just to the extreme. He's like a your fucking awful this this year but my stole my old lady still wants to fuck no dude. I'm not Ray Whitney I'm Ryan. He said Oh. Yeah you just suck Busy I know those one one other item. You WanNa talk about before we go to interview by the way we mentioned bring on a team that you guys Mike Roy. Yeah so wild interview here Mike. SG Roya we'll go into it and the interviews brought in in the lockout era we talk about the the Ahl the toughest league in the world that year Mike's Kreuzer name that that people probably don't I don't know once you check out the hockey DB and you see the you hear the stories he tells us it's you'll be interested to kind of find out his character and the type of guy is and there's a story That that is told that is the fact. I didn't remember. It is like really kind of has me worried about where my brains at and my memory but I think you'll enjoy it so we're going to go to Mike score right now. We are now pleased to be joined by a former teammate. And myself and somebody if you check vote this hawk this man's hockey. DB Yobe sitting there for three hours reading through the twenty five different pro hockey teams. There might scroll the man that told me to call him. The real is is is a part. I WANNA welcome as I just said. Mike scored a spin. Let's walk what's going on buddy voice as you so it goes back a long way that I played played with you during the NHL cancelled season down in the minors. It was a great league down there. Thirty nine games. You came into Wilkes Barre beating people up and then since then and talk talk to your senior in what seems like probably fifteen years but We got in touch. Somehow you want you were willing to come on the show so how you been excellent. Excellent lots of the people that I know. Listen to your show. I'm still very much involved with the hockey community. And I guess there's definitely been a few shows where you guys there's just been some some Some scrawny stories sort of put onto the side and the boys so they should definitely give you guys a call and man. I'm glad me on. Well I I do appreciate and I will let all the listeners know that when when we met I think you said you were a pro poker player you also you also took part. I believe you took part in the battle of the hockey enforcers in the. We'll go into that later so we're going to bunch of stories but I I want to go to the hockey and I see you know you grind it out in the North American league. Jesus that was the Iron League that it was the tougher. USSL and ended up release back then got a number twenty year olds in nineteen year old young kids today beaten a pass out of young player for the United States National Development and we were just trying to work. Let's how did you end up at all. And what happened there You were just ready for pro hockey. Give me the breakdown on how that went down. Yeah you know as a kid. I was pretty good hockey player. Believe it or not so I had someday my last season. Juniors I played towel well ended up. Eighty two points in the fifty goals and I got. I got a scholarship to hockey east at Umass Lowell and I went there. There was thirteen freshman that season And I just I didn't fit into the program there and I would have stayed around and got the education but I'm I I wasn't there to scholar. It's you know what I mean some Mike. There's no fighting here. Like Gosh it sorry you know could have totally so you're there for six games but the year before that there's has nothing on hockey debate. Did you take a full year off. No I went to I went to I went to To come see junior B so they might have got the stats. I Creek University at after semester. And that's the they didn't take your pool. I didn't take a full season off after that. You didn't and then So then so then you left university diversity After that what was the play Toledo what it allows is actually destroyed. Believe it or not so Tim Whitehead was actually the coach. And he's I win and I'll say I'm trying to play hockey. I'm trying to be a hockey player. if you're not gonNA bring you on your team is somebody's GonNa play next year. I'M NOT GONNA play next year or do the same shit. I'M GONNA play rocky looking right in the eye and then even cracked by lineup in college hockey. You'RE NOT GONNA you're not gonNA play pro. Acne I have my my mental or slash best friend on my wedding Tony He married a couple of phone calls and crabbers city Rookie camp where I got the shots and stuff ended up going to the Detroit. redwings main camp from there and play five. preseason games with Disney genie be experience so and then ended up until Lido. And that was the start of the uh-huh of a carousel of teams so starting off in Toledo that building must have loved you. It was chaos. The glass probably went up about to your your eyes when you were on the ice. It's the fans was the guy with the megaphone. Still there at center ice. Oh fuck yeah it was. It was ten. Tasker was the guy right behind me. Who is an absolute fucking period? You and that place was so loud. The low ceilings. I think even allowed smoking a number pitching and the only thing separating the stands even the penalty box low. Oh classes like a string you could just turn around guys. We throw a proper now. You're so many brawls with with the standards band or Larry and I think they had the sixth sixth or seventh Zamboni ever made and the thing the thing would break down every game that wheeling would would would go into their so. I'm sure you've got some great stories from that city and and then I mean just the H. L. Train kept on going into New Orleans and take over from here. I WANNA go back quick. You mentioned Tony. Kerr tallies that the men who used to coach the Texas team in the North American League actually Texas tornadoes junior the junior blues and Springfield Junior Blues first and then the Texas Tornados He got me. And there's a Lotta a Lotta Funny Maestro Stories for major sixteen to offer I basically Officially begged him taking on Springfield and He just he saw that. I needed you saw. That was an angry kid that needed some guidance and without him might be dead or in jail. Probably you plan on sorry. Sorry I didn't mean tend to up here but I'm saying you played a lot of years in pro hockey and probably have thanks to him but the first two years is what I'm looking at and it's three teams both years. I mean meet sixteenths in two years where you just get used to moving around like what was that like for your life style. You know some of that self inflicted. There's no doubt yeah. There's no doubt I created a bit of an alter ego I mean you remember back. Then I'm I'm a little bit of a different guy right now Not Too much. But you know I've created an alter ego and listen anybody right. So some expendable commodity there was a lot of teams that wanted to use me But it was tough to keeping around the playoffs. That kind of thing so well you mentioned the alter ego and I brought it up but when did you start going by the real. How did that all begin? Call me the real okay. So so teach out uh-huh Legendary Guy Okay embroidered. It's a Jim Montgomery. Who was playing with Ashley in Texas? I don't know what happened to him. And he's a great guy. Great coach you know really fucking pissed off. I hope I will be getting coaching job somewhere else but he was my roommate. There was need your mom and your eating and One day I was was We're all taking a picture. Jim You're supposed to be like a tough Guy Utah Grizzlies you know In shaky fucking he put the real all my embroidered and on my skates on my gloves. All from Montgomery just just just made it up out of nowhere so in one day. We're doing this shoot at the gym and I shaved. I went in the bathroom and I shaved are in my chest and I came out. You know the Syrian hadn't really hadn't really taken hold yet hadn't really taken hold yet just a cartoon character. Everyone starts losing their fucking Shit. I just I'm like why did every fucking did it backwards in the mirror. So the are was backwards. They they don't everyone is I guess too and then I decided third person for years toys as I was looking to get a hold of you I want to go back to Umass Lowell from it you said it was a numbers thing was was it that you weren't GonNa get enough ice time. You not fit in the room. What like what was what was the factors? Does that leads you not stain to alter long. Well I don't Tim Way and it was a little guy I got. I got recruited by their coach. And he wasn't GonNa play me. There was too many in the rookies on. That team ended up doing really well. I mean I could see the writing on the wall. So and he wasn't planning only have four games of that season and I was. I was hungry in practice. I mean I'm hungry guy who passionate guy so I wanted. It wasn't He wasn't giving sniff how how many how much you're off ice habits and an offseason were boxing classes and UFC classes and in in basie completely altered your game to the fact that you had to be meet had to play pro hockey. I was I. I was Kinda like that before I was I was taking. It was crazy because I wanted to be a hockey fight and I wanted to and had a little bit of skill to like. Wasn't one of those guys that I mean. I like to play. It wasn't well guys. Take Kid you're not gonNA make this team drop the fucking gloves. I was like itching to fight and I would score sometimes too and I had some pretty good goalscoring season when I was seventeen years old. They used to have these tough man competitions right so I got a fake. Id from one of my buddies and started entering into tough man competitions as an amateur boxing with zero experience I two hundred habits or boxing slashed up there and fight with absolutely no training at all whereas fighting the one bar When bar on Mondays sign up one? Another bar on Tuesdays Wednesdays. That was my summer trainings. Seventeen on until I started going professional so spin. Knuckle Michael Bras. All blood was fucking wild. There would be these crazy bars like some of them were used like the rocky and Orlando like Shaquille. O'Neal Michael Irvin urban like backstreet boys. Now we're going. Watch this you. Just go and sign up. They'd have like two two stripper battles at the end like a glove on anybody that would show up and for me. That was great. That'd be working out some pretty good Glenda. I got some really tough some great dude in a two so It was solid a great training. So all I mean the coast the the U. H. L. The AHL. We look you know you look around. Where did you feel like it was the hardest to fight eight every night? I mean no matter where you were it was every game you got in one was it. Was it more difficult than one league than the other. It's not one league than the other. But the you you know as well as I do that lockout your that. We played out the toughest year sportsman every team had their. NHL Guy they're fucking American guy and then a couple of middleweights and then a light light-heavyweight every team kept everybody. So it was that was the toughest year. What are you doing anything else that to help out dot I mean maybe a little uncomfortable the mention but mcdyess any steroid use? I have no problem talking about my steroids. I asked I absolutely do and I have absolutely no problem with people that I did it just as as well as everyone else backed them too. They didn't test so if they're not testing and everyone's doing it pretty stupid not to do it. I mean that's just that's just I mean now that never consign them. There's all kinds of people that are testing everyone's testing and you literally have to jump through the hoops. You get involved in that ministry but when you're competition is all doing it in your fucking idiot not to the level on the ground now. Did it help you at all that. Enhance your game at all in any way or just helping the fighting. It helped me stay in the gym for longer. So it definitely helped me a recovery it makes amid a pretty solid difference for me because my my qualities lying my aggression my quickness as as a fighter just sheer skill wise so the couple extra pounds drop so much late in the season and do whatever. I'm eating fucking seven thousand calories eight thousand calories during the season. Today's sometimes just wait on guys. Lightened is like you know. GRONYEA and fucking McIntyre and scurr lack. And he's fucking guys. You need that. I took that rebounds. I've heard guys say that you can let your Max like twice a day and you distill. You don't even feel sore. Just it's unbelievable. Yeah I mean it's it does. There's different things to different people so it makes you a little fires hours. How is your background where you get the ball you in a couple of bombs I mean yeah? Hey It's funny you bring you bring that up because we can go scores the question I have and I never even got the answers when you got to Wilkspur the law co year and and we took the pictures on the ice. You know you're posing for case you get a goal or a fight. Why do Chernoff for everyone? I don't know if you understand and scores. He got in a fight his picture go on the big screen wilkes-barre and you have no tarp. That was part of the of the ego of that. The alter ego the ego part of it you know. So that was That'll be the pro wrestling then. townie coming back there and I sort of took on to help me with the job now. Did you know genuinely hate any of these guys who were fighting or was it more like you. Were just trying to like talk yourself into hating him because it kind of had to be done like it was fun to. Hey guys like I why even now. You're actually never met the guy like Brian McGrath. I no I love the guy if every person so many mutual friends or whatever and he's just a fucking Dick on the. I enjoyed hating you. You know Dennis Bondi same thing. I'm sure they're fucking in Greg guys off the ice. There's a couple of like cowards in the East Coast League That I didn't like and we'll talk about. Hey guys I don't mind fucking tossing tossing. CARSHIELD's fucking day Bob. They have to get it out of jail to watch y'all abby. Now we've kind of we've talked a little bit about it you know. Obviously we have some differences in how the game. I'm sure played and stuff like that. But you know he's doing his thing and we don't really want to another war and you know respect him but I didn't. Those are the guys that I hate. Antagonized organizers where the passion absolute passion I hit antagonize remember. They drove you. They drove you nuts. What you're it's funny you bring of course so I started thinking of the post concussion stuff how are you doing now? Like how's your head. I mean I can't even imagine how many concussions you had you know this is the problem. Nobody ever fucking talk to any of us. They're like hey guess what fucking Lake's going great at killed it for twenty years. If hockey like man I showed. I did everything that I wanted to physically. And now I'm living the fucking dream right now. I really am. I GONNA beautiful fucking. I got a beautiful girl Mary. I got an amazing business going. I'm running on the striking coach at one of the top enemy schools in the world. CL- I've I've the best students from Florida taken some of these kids as a coach and now there's some of the best players in the country I got a beautiful son. Who's he's better other than I could have ever been at that age of hockey I mean it doesn't get better than it is right now for me. I'll tell ya that's incredible and an Ma something you got into even while playing correct act. Oh yeah those those those tough man sites and all those those amateur boxing sort of Segue to that 'cause star just winning is winning and winning and then they send you know I'm talking to some real news and got hooked it up right a very early age I Seen Dallas was the first time I really got hooked up with the line thing. I And they're the guys that really took me under their wing and that's when I started really starting to blossom 'CAUSE I was getting professional training in the summers and I was working with the top guys in the world the US hours American top team you know Orlando those guys go. Does all that fighting lead to any type of aggression away from the ring like are you. Were you getting in bar scraps at all at back then or more maybe even though you just whacking everything in Wilksbury squeeze I have I tell you I have extraordinary appetites just in general. That's who I am as a person super passionate and I have extraordinary types. That Ashley took away from the aggression that I needed to get out. I used to get it out. I needed to get it out so until you right now or it may have been another steroid two hundred pounds exactly the same win right now. I'm exactly the same way so I it it somewhere to put that fire. You know what I mean so if I if you're not exhausted at the end of the session on your approach fucking players so we'll go go into that battle hockey enforcers kind of explain to people what that was and how you got involved with it and and listen. I was fifteen fifteen years ago. That is never happening again. Let's say it. Is it happened in Finland again. I think they didn't spend North America north. America yeah exactly no. It was What was funny about that? As I had signed a contract with New Jersey lamb rail and Armstrong and then I agreed to do that but I didn't tell them about it so I went there with absolute war All respect to demand around the mine now one event who beat me in that decision in the final I still do not believe I lost that fight so and all respect dude is an absolute killer and he proved himself as a killer over years and years after before that But I definitely think that absolutely that was a draw. Sixty four thousand dollars for the winner. Seventy five thousand dollars for second place. That was a big deal for me. So yeah yeah given. I went out and had a pretty good time after that though I bet when did you realize that it was over and I see it took like a year or two often. You got back in but I feel like you just. I would've kept doing this forever. If allowed would have I br. You know that's the thing is I didn't. It's not like I left unharmed unscathed. You know I took my lumps just like all athletes. He's doing it when they're left so I I. It was the second time I've broken my neck and Well the first time was a pretty clear break and Binghamton and I was on. I was on my road that year. That was thousand year. I was going to do it and And it took me a long time because I had muscle atrophy. What am I discs? Smashed into the right side of my body. The nerve and I and in my whole body was like nothing the whole right side of my body with all my slash issue so building it back up was really tough and I did and I played another six or seven years. I think got that and then by the time I last year in Evansville I I I really went. After it's hard. I was trying to assign and get back and He's in the doctor's like do you realize you keep playing so that was the that was the beginning of the end for the career. I stuck grounded some days to the solar bears with a part of the. You know the local team here the East Coast team the way hockey now. I'm pretty sure I could play till I'm sixty and keep challenging these fucking twenty two year olds. There won't be so. Yeah that's how I was able to play in the Hansel and do some stuff and help lead when our young getting so was the second neck break that had happened from hit was happening in a fight. With what were the circumstances. David Coachie believe it or not. David coachee play year before right. Well maybe two years before that so would right so he I hit them we. We're going pretty good. I caught him with a nice one and he had hold my Jersey and he went he went down and I I tried to keep them up. I try to stay standing on. The kind of keeping on and his weight was all supported on that Jersey. Hold on my discipline by. What's his weight but the big guy too he's well? Let's try to brighten the mood up a little bit here. You also played in the UK. Like our Buddy Biz over here for the Sheffield steelers. What was that experience like? Did you WANNA stay off the plane. Just one year there. I should say no. I'm glad that was a that was a super. You're telling me that that year re motivated me my my buddy Sean Nick Moro. remotivate me. He he He beat me pretty clean in a couple of sites when when I used to get a little bit better him mm-hmm in our in our younger days and that was when I decided 'cause I took a few years trying to be a goal score. You know I I. I twenty five goals in the coastal one year. I mean I was doing okay But get no call up so I went to Europe like England make a little bit of money. Try to have some fun and memorial is there. He smashed me a couple of times. And I remember going home for being fuck doc. We're we're doing this. We're doing it the right way with the steroids. It wasn't even that I wasn't even I kind of passed that in my career but I definitely went. I definitely went hard with lighting for night shelf years after that so scores I I didn't play with you. Whip play with a little bit when when guys come on we like to hear these stories that they they they usually like to tell one of which wit TB up four was your your lexus. Can I hear more about Alexis with no power steering this guy. It was a workout Z.. Noisy the house it Alexis then well L. A.. Today it was a really warned. Were you just pumped to be driving. Alexis it was like pretty much brand new but it was solved when I got it when I right left mall. I ended up being managed a nightclub and ended up making some pretty good money for about eight months and I was able to afford one. Probably not the best purchase purchase with the money on back But and then I just didn't plan playing in the minors ain't GonNa be you can't fix. Your exercise ran that soccer the crown and then once it became too ugly and it was like this cars to you know I can build my lots and and make them more uncomfortable for myself which will make me a better fighter like any. I know I used to do. Not Use channel changes of straws or shit like that just to be fucking angrier little. I'm I'm getting. I'm getting up to change the TV knowing me going into tonight's game boy. I love you getting a lexus. He scores He's like I got fifty six grand in my back count to fifty. I can afford it. Yeah let's get this thing. Was it that Najer Dean and flurry When they were hurt one time and practice? I don't know if you've ever snowblower. And they suck and covered Brennan tires thing and snow and just just shaved off the lexus emblem. So everyone's walking out to the car after practice. All Color Ella. No Alexis saved off. Went said you didn't mind the no power steering help you work on your grappling. You could fight white not only that. But I didn't use two hands and I'm turning so no power steering not allowed to use two hands and when it was hot outside. ATM telling you just one hand. Just try working working guys garbage bag onto a good sweat in. Do you have any memories of like crazy celebrations when you one on fights because I know for a fact some of these leagues. You must have been going bananas after a win I go I go pretty nuts Yeah when I score when when I when I was a fight but I got a couple of the terrier the one year where I was no. NHL that year. So I think it was Josh Gratton. I really get along with them. And whereas in what what Bin wilkes-barre one nothing. You know. Michelle Terry and I got so many great stories about him. The way you talk to the Shitty say to me so I was also renowned for a couple of games. At that time we started Winston Games and I was punching out some guys and everyone was having a good time and then I I did pretty good against Gratin and sprint into the box and they jumped up in wellspring jumped up onto the box seats and start getting the Wilksbury crowd into it. And you know let's go. Let's go into place where bananas we stored within thirty seconds after that against its Philly and then we scored a minute after that and the place just didn't quiet down the whole take time and I'm going sparking nuts in the box and we end up winning the game two to one Next Day at practice. I'm skiing around the ice on cloud nine Terry and comes over to me. Goes ex great fucking celebrate like that again. I'll send you back to the coast case away from me out of my bag. What other -Tarian Stories You god God I know the coaches have been under fire but I think that -tarian walked that line? Pretty good of where he was he would strike fear in a guys but you know there is no lot. There's no kicking going on. Uh I got I got to. I got to rape -Tarian Stories When I walked in when I walked in for my I you know I was coming from wheeling thing you know? I've played a few games. I come in. I'm walking into his office and I see how do I can't remember who was. But he has his this binder and he's got this binder under open and he's flipping through pages shaking his head as he's walking out of the office not that becomes relevant later so I just. I made a mental note of that and I walked in. I extended my Barneveld to shake his hand. Like you Mr -Tarian for this opportunity. I was super excited. And he didn't shake hands. Sit Down and I was okay because goes I heard you like to have a lot of party. You're not gonNA do that here. Are you going to go to the coast plus take off the hearings. You look like a rapper. My I talking to me so I guess that's how it wasn't everything. Come to find out and each. Yoda was the goalie at the time and he had gone on and before that and it was supposed to be. He said everything you need to know. Andy is in this binder about how you're playing and he says you can leave now so any opens opens up the fucking binder and his goals against average is printed out on on two hundred pages. I told the civilian ties. I the my favorite -Tarian is when when he got the job in Pittsburgh the next year when Ed's Oh got fired and and he had a meeting with Malone the first date the coach and he walked and he's like hey coach and he's like I'm not here to coach rockstars get the fuck out of that. So he was he was he knew that. I like to have a little fun off the ice and he had a MAC firing last week about thirteen games. And we we started off that year like one eight and then they called me up and we went thirteen for thirteen or fourteen after that. We're right at the end of that. We're at the end of that. Little streak you talk. I see in that first meeting year but it doesn't matter what night didn't wins. You have eleven o'clock curfew every night no exceptions and I was like okay. So they put me in Do masses basement basement and And I we're we're doing really well that you have to. I would club Windsor so Like I gotta go to the bar and have a beer so by having to be talking to this girl and it was Friday's or something. I've been talking to this girl. And all of a sudden they get this wave of smoke in my face and she looks at me like yeah. I kind of did that on purpose. You could tell gala dinner is and I was like. Oh let's just not pay attention to it right. Kept talking happens a couple more times I turn over my buddy you got a fucking problem and I'm looking -tarian right in the I. It's eleven fifteen. Thank you for you to go home Republican skirt the money out of my applause here on the thing and went home and played it in five hundred stuck in something blowing smoke in bus drivers faces. He was right. He was literally leaving over my shoulder. And I was trying to be good enough doc. Plus some guy out here or something you know so who is who is the best player in the NHL you ever play with them and you mentioned you were a flower but I I mean you spend a little bit of time in the H.. One that you were like Holy Shit. The Sky is going to be next level managerial thoughts. Basil was was special especially thought Carter with special I thought that bore kids with Special Dunkin Buffon's Fuck I ran into him one time. Holy Shit I went flying. I didn't even know US company. Hit him over So many talented players. Nobody nobody sticks out like so so there was awesome teams. Yeah no but not one person not one person who do you WanNa teammates from the the quick the lull still in the NHL. Did you know that it was that. Ron Hansie Oh hey fuck Ya. Haley's he's had a long trip. I keep forgetting we. We're ruining curler. Rulings eighties a great guy. You're on the edge off a little bit. What's the closest you came to an NHL call it was that ever within like grasping yours at like never going to happen? It was always. It was so close to Gra- It was I was just so close every year it sucked so the dollar Dallas wanted to call me up and They told your tally. We can't give that guy money. That was how this her line. I was in Albany one of my best years in Albany where I went a little crude you the second round that you're jumping on watch but my on the fourth line with David Clarkson Cam Janssen AH killing it? And they do lamb basically called me up like I'm taking the twenty one year old so bad I was so mad time looking back he was Kinda right. So yeah and any other wild stories. You got that you are prepared to on the PODCASTS. I'm sure your your mind was turned a little bit when you found out your coming on as I can't. I can't believe Whitney you're not telling the the gun story would call the Armstrong. I can't believe you haven't you didn't lead with that. That and all my memories they must colby. Oh 'cause you wrote you wrote it on the board. You wrote it on the board. The next day Arafat dove. I'm starting to why don't you tell it when I have mush brain call Colby Armstrong fantastic. Only he was just play with beloved him and he's He's harmless to the bars ours too in the in Wilkes Barre Hajer that hotel whatever. It was and Somebody who's not somebody was pretty mad. I in through a water bottle of his ahead after the after the club at him and I was kind of away from the group and I went over there and confronted the guys. They they weren't expecting. Did I remember this. I remember remember that this was actually at the woodlands. Yes yeah the woodlands woodland and I I I I kind of embarrassed them a little bit. You know you know. He thought he was fighting. Colby and now he's GonNa fight me so you know it's too and change a little bit and there's a lot of people out there so he got frustrated and we're all still hanging out with a bunch of people outside and he pulled up in the car in a car like bucks in minutes later. Pulled a gun out pointed right at my head and everybody's diving for the cars and let me dot strike me down right now. I'm not like shoot me you fucking pussy. And he just looked at me like what the popularity now and then did. Did you pull the weight and then I just don't toe that aren't hundred crawling out from under cars afterwards looking at me like I got three heads go. I was crawling. Rock with with fish with three is in that little Brooke and I remember being like Oh my God just stood there and said shoe goofy that the fact that I didn't remember that shows I have serious issues or that. You just been around a lot of good stories Eh. None that intense though. I remember saying this dude is a sick puppy. I saw true as well interview guys. Who'd be like? What are we talk about? I don't remember I don't remember much. It's it's not great but mike other than the guy in the finals from the battle of enforces. Is there anyone else you still want to crack at. Oh Wow that's a hell of a fucking. I The guy that I had mentally pictured my whole career chores Laura. That's the guy on asked. That's the one guy I wanted it. I never got Hey do you fight. Are you still fighting like you've seen in Emma training now well no. I'm not. I'm coaching coach a fusion accelerate. Now so that's what I meant but do you do your fighting on your own or no. No no no no no no kid it takes all my energy. That's where that's where my energy goes. I got more for doing sparring at time with these guys but I'm using my athletic knowledge while doing drills and I'll do shit with them so I can keep a high pace for for for the guy that's It's definitely a passion. Technically that our pilot. I'm I'm very much technical student As well as mental exciting so but what about a guy. Glad you don't have to fight ever again. How about that? Well Boo got obviously was the toughest guy. I ever fought recipes and I was Kinda lucky that I got him. Soared word on this way up and I was able to do. Okay The one guy honestly scares me. The most is Steve MacIntyre. I washed like I was watching fight after frightening. That's great dude. I the owner but play after fight. I'm watching them going. And it's the the first guy that I've ever looked at and go fuck. Do I beat this guy. Like he's the only guy I've ever ever said that about I. Just I had no idea how to beat them. What are you what are you going to get a left or right? I one of them's GONNA in your career. That guy is that's a scary man. You still play a lot of Polka at all. I know you I read that you played like the play poker all member. What you've lost the plot and you punch in the tree outside my apartment? I think I just remember that. Oh my God I tell you guys be real so hard to play pogue if you guys yeah you fuck you lost money it was I remember him. He's like you can't cough fuck. I bought this game. You Ass stall just GonNa call just because I wanNA see Merely bankrolled that little casino at your at your place. That was fun house we've talked about the PTO making thirty eight. and Are you trying to play with you bake. It goes two weeks ascraeus. Didn't you win a car at the world series of poker something now. I took doc At six fifty ninth I can't remember exactly I placed I wanted to I one fifteen grand satellite. I'm wondering USO satellites so. I did really. What does that summer I went in? I got it. There was a million five was the was the total pot so and I I last appeared in court the second day I did last tube so it was a good one. I later on after I played today I went on a hell of a run when I played in Syracuse at turning stone I turning so so I remember Rammer Ramsey Abid unreal guy. He'd be like screw. I'm I'm just GONNA fucking call to see what you have your member when he won twenty grand when used to jump in and go to Atlantic City and shit after after they were like one o'clock in the morning too. I remember I saw at the table and then I went upstairs. Came back down. He was still at the table. I was like Oh my God. This is the biggest one I've ever seen casino and it was in. It was in the minors whilst crazy. Thank you for coming on this. This has been awesome. Anything else you WANNA say to the fans there or any other stories. I mean you guys I feel ten podcasts. If you WANNA call back any kind the story down we'll We'll get a great response after this interview that we'd glad to have you back on just just one thing. Yeah I Right now I coach. I coach kids kids. Sue believe it or not. I'm a developmental coach All AGES SCROLL CONTACTING SKILLS DOT COM is my website. And I'm I'm I worked diligently on on developing young athletes and So if anyone wants wants to check it out by all means you might have already Senate where you at located Orlando Florida. Okay we appreciate you coming on and look forward to doing it again you you continue to do well. I'm really glad to hear how things are going for having me on Thank you very much to the real Mike's growing good to hear that he's doing so well though is A really cool. Talk to catch up with that guy. What a character? He was Moving on I gotta I gotta eat some crow again shocker. It's kind of what I do on this podcast. Ilya Kovalchuk talk about making me. Look a fool he is lighting it up. I believe he has four goals already with the Montreal Canadians I was all over them right. But I mean Marshall does not look good. Who knows if this turns into like contender this maybe a little bit of a trial for him? Montreal may be moved him. I don't know what's going on. But he's looked good and he's he's kind of a basically proven me wrong in in saying that he's got a little left to give his legs up. Maybe Berge Ronald something of value Chocolates bumps okay here comes on ad read from the Biz for a one week period. Ea Sports have handed the keys over to us to determine which players deserve a ratings increase or decrease in NHL Twenty hockey ultimate team. The bumper slump program will feature ratings changes to any player in NHL Twenty for one week starting. Today it's completely wheatley up to the chickens crew all right so I picked three guys and I gotta start off with this Elvis Mercy Lynn Skins merge LEKA's right. I guess I I guess okay. Struggle with the last name share panthers got the wrong goalie from Columbus. And and and we're going to. We're going to bump this guy up just because of his story and what he's done don all of a sudden since the Corpus aloe Injury and and I believe there was even a little rift between him and the media where he had to say. Hey I'm done doing interviews at some point right all right Calypso no Moore's Lucas I'm not not that I'm aware of one hundred percent to be honest with you. Anyway he's getting a fucking bump all right ground so he wasn't eighty two he's going up to an eighty two all right so he's got a couple points there next guy on my list. Justin Williams welcome back. I don't even know was he. Part of that dodgeball game or not. Yes he was. He was in the midst of the dog ballgame while he's probably the one who thought of the idea yet so much time Retired and missing training camp. or He's probably actually she been thinking of all the storm surges so he wasn't an eighty two that's pretty that's a pretty generous rating coming right into the NHL out of a four month hiatus and and he's getting bumped to what eighty five nice. Lovely three point bump for our boy Justin Williams grappa Williams and last but not least the superstar that none of you knew knew about. I know I'm bias. But I'm going to give Connor Gar little bump he was at eighty the best value in the NHL based on point production at seven seven seventy five average salary over the next two years and he is an eighty as I mentioned getting bumped to a eighty four. Alright so that's a big shadow. I'm not a sports one of our sponsors. NHL Twenty go check out those three guys. And I'M GONNA pass it over Grenell for the final details we'll actually base if if if you want to. If you WANNA bump someone up to a ninety nine you can so going forward any players out there that are listening. If you get on business good side you can get bumped to a nine now you can beat the the best overall in the game so you actually on the radio and general home like you could make the best player in the game. We might be the most was Powell powerful thing you have in your arsenal of life right now. So if we have any Any hockey players currently playing at the National Hockey League level. That better down to come on checkups for an interview and you play. NHL Twenty frequently. I would be willing to to give you the ninety nine all we should have had them on and then our scores are the rating we give them is. That's basically what we thought of the interview. Yeah and if your shit we fucking don't we're GONNA put you to the age version version of a of NHL Twenty. Oh Yeah. We're GONNA make you skate around like me my last year. You're going to be an overall of a forty. You're going to have to address you as a mascot in the game and speaking of mascots what the fuck is going on with gritty. Ra to tell you. We're GONNA save me my mom kicking me when I'm down over here. Yeah here's a guy who you haven't mentioned for a while but grittiest back on the news and no not just banging a barrel at the game with the Astros sticker which by the way it's a gritty learnt from the Astros stroz spelled L. E. Aren t which is fucking hilarious But no it just came out a little while ago. That fire Bush himself is being looked at for assault by the PHILLY. Police Department He allegedly punched a thirteen year old. Now this story started way back in November when the boy and his dad. We won't mention names. We'll just the father and son they were at a photo op. What gritty during the A game The father's a season ticket holder or was in per CBS sports. The Dad said his son padded gritty innocently on the head once the pick was taken gritty. Get Out of his chair In quote took a running start and quote in punch. My son is Odyssey. Could that's why the father said now conveniently enough all cameras in the area are appointed elsewhere. the flyers conducted comcast owns the flyers. They conducted a thorough investigation. That found nothing to support the claim that gritty in fact assaulted the kid. Now this this is where it Kinda gets a little eyebrow raising. I Guess The dad took the send to a chiropractor about a week after the alleged incident. Now if my kids said he got assaulted or hurt hurt I probably would go to a doctor. And that's not as an insult to Cairo practice but then not medical doctors. I would go to a fucking hospital and doctor. He took him to a chiropractor to the chiropractor said he had some sort of of injury so then he reached out the comcast gave him an email and basically they couldn't come to an agreement on. I guess compensation this guy wanted his kid featured on the Jumbotron tron ought to be able to get pre-game autographs in the Locker Room Comcast countered by saying. We'll put him on the bench before the game and then the guy calls the cops about a month month after the quote on quote alleged assault. So something's off feel like well. I have a couple questions. I'll say or thoughts one. Did you say it was a thirteen year. Oldboy and it was in November. Yes we were there November. Mikey you did you get salted by greedy. I did it was exactly. Yeah okay second thing. I was standing up for business. Ruined his jacket. Yeah thank you thank you. That's a fucking man right there. Thank you and second thing. Second thing You go to the chiropractor and you come back with this as the injury when you need to make money in some sort of lawsuit lawsuit it's basically going in there and saying. Tell me the most longest confusing term in the chiropractic world. So I can give this to the people. I'm suing because his injury was a contusion Susan to the Lower Thoracic Spine with sub book. Sation what the hell is that. He got hit on the head by gritty. I mean what the faulk so all see exactly what happens in this thirteen year old kid and his dad. You don't WanNa try to take gritty for a ride because if there's one mascot it'll do dirty it's a scumbag from Philadelphia now. Just for the record. The father did say I just wanted apology. And something special for his son. So I don pose an actual assault. He probably would have called the cops when it happened. But that's not the way it went down so speaking of incidents With bullshit we had another ugly incident which we have to talk about Because we do on on the show branding manning of the HMO's Bakersfield condors was suspended. Five Games for use of a design. My word this is the league. A racial slur against the player on the Ontario Reign The former fly did release a statement. the game on Monday night. Ironically Martin Luther King Days last night I made comments to an opposing player that that was stupid and offensive. After the game I spoke with the opposing player in person which I'm very grateful for. He allowed me to apologize. Took full responsibility for what I said to say. I've learned from the situation as an understatement. I promise to be better And then just about an hour to go before we started recording an article by Lisa Dilmun in the athletic she actually spoke with the Kings prospect. Boko mom who was the person to slur was directed to himself released a statement. He said I've taken some time to reflect on what transpired on the the ice against Bakersfield Monday night would happen is unfortunate for everyone no matter how intense or a heated game gets. There's no room for this and our game in no excuse. I am very proud to be an African Canadian hockey play into Stanford all the players that are in the same situation as me. I would like to thank the Kings in the Ontario Reign Edmonton oilers in Bakersfield field. Ghandi's condos for their professionalism and helping me handle the situation last but not least I cannot thank my family and friends for the continued love and support at this time I I will not make any further statements or comments and I would very much appreciate if those wishes were respected which we will do as soon as with Donald pining here You would think a that branding men would be old enough to know better than the do that. And be that we'd be fucking done with these stories by now unfortunately Biz would not So I guess the only thing thing that we can say about it as we know for a fact it wasn't an an mom right it was not it was in this when you really splitting. He has like I said before. The show wasn't a racist. They call it a racial term. which you know it wasn't it wasn't that worried but it was something I could still be construed as offensive? Yeah and and and it's just really unfortunate. I mean I for the victim here I mean fuck man like you said with everyone that's going on lately. It's probably the last thing he expected to hear on the ice. and Andy if he hasn't probably dealt with any if if not enough situations in the past Or Not that's not the word I want to say it too many situations in the past. Excuse me you know. Now he's gotTa to deal with it again And at the professional level and as far as manning's concern I don't know him personally. I have not reached out to anyone regarding this subject. Object or the type of guy. He is I it's it's very unfortunate because if it if it isn't truly who he is and there is no past You know there's no pass of any of that type of racism and it was just spur of the moment for whatever reason made him say in that moment but this is something that's going to carry he's GonNa have to carry around the rest of his career and life and it's just unfortunate on all fronts and it fucking blows and these are the stories that we don't WanNA cover You know if in fact that he has been exposed to that type of racism in in his past. Then you'd hope that a a situation like this maybe uh-huh helps them think deeply about it and change his ways once again. I don't know anything about this guy with on Martin Luther King Junior less Jesus Christ first. Let's just leave it at that. He released a statement. He said he was very grateful. that he was able to speak to Boko after the game and apologize. So yeah he so you hate this stuff. It's got. Yeah no place in the game for absolutely non the fact that you would ever even consider somebody's skin color when you're playing hockey and battling for POC together like it just like crazy to me. So you like to see suspensions. It's five games right that. That's worthy of five. Yeah you you just love to give people the benefit of the doubt. But it's just it's like fuck dude like what would trigger you to say something like that based on everything that's been happening thing lately like faulk. Yeah Yeah hopefully we do it on the thousand shows and we wanted to do Any more of these stories. And if we do a thousand bettencourt I'll get a little bit better other than lately although I did get a w the other night but I wanNA talk about bed. MGM It is the home for spitting chocolates for sports betting this year. The same guys that bring you. The world's most spectacular spectacular casino resorts and top notch. Entertainment have a new sports betting APP IN NEW JERSEY. 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Deadline Fallout

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Deadline Fallout

"The. Is that game misconduct podcast with Don. League-record? Not welcome to the Tuesday of game has gone duct. I am Don McGregor. It was no sense in doing a show on Monday. There were just too many moving parts too, many trades. So I wanted to try to get a show that can encapsulate everything that happened at the trading deadline. So Jay was nice enough. To Breda come on Tuesday with us, of course, EJ known for his work on NHL now Monday through Friday on the NHL network from four to six eastern and did a stellar job yesterday with all the trades. How are you buddy? Thank you very much. We did our best. I'm doing good. It was it's been a busy few weeks in the lead up as you know, there's all this speculation. And then in the end, you know, we find out what happened. And there was a lot went on. Just not nice thing that was. Crazily surprising. But no a lot of action right up to the end. Well, I think the overall theme for me is the Columbus is all in on this season. And and I think people need to look at that. Because I'm talking to a lot of islander fans that are upset, you know, we had to have done something we're in first place. But look what Columbus did they're going to be honest. Columbus is in a different situation. They're trying to win while they have Panara in Arab rob ski, I think Lewis thinking a little bit more long term. I don't think Columbus can really look beyond this season because two of their biggest pieces may walk out the door. Plus, they might want to try to convince them to stay with a legitimate run with some of the players they acquired. So I understand that you look at it now and say boy, the might be in trouble. Because of what a Columbus did maybe steal the division away. But I think Columbus is just in a different boat. Is that the way you look at it? Yeah. I totally look at it that way, I mean, they are the franchise that we're talking about. And then never wanna play out. They haven't pretty good team there. They've got some really. Good pieces on defense that you've got some good Ford's got the mood young players, and they have Pinera Nebraska. And if they were going to trade, those guys last summer, I mean that would have made some sense, and they could've got a couple of you know, some players that things that would help them be good now when you trade when you try to trade those kind of pieces at the deadline. We saw what the market is. It's draft picks conditional draft picks and unless. You can convince a player sign with your team as Vegas was able to do with Mark stone and subsequently they were able to get an a plus prospect and Eric Brunson of the defense minister playing in the American League right now the Swedish kid, I mean, those kind of prospects don't change hands. I mean, you saw the Ryan mcdonagh deal last year. Go back to that for ranger fans. I mean, the Rangers got picks and players off the second. You know, the second tier prospect list of the Tampa Bay Lightning. They didn't get Cal foot. They didn't get any of the really top top prospects. That's the way it works. And you know, if the jackets were going to trade those guys should have traded last summer, they didn't. And I think they did the best when they can do their situation which was to try to add pieces and really make a rug Ford. And if they win a couple of playoff rounds, and you know, who knows maybe they can convince Shane or two singles to stay. Maybe both it looks like roskin parent or leaving. But at least to have some pieces going forward. So I thought under the circumstances. I think I've really applaud. Eurotech align. And then they are in in Columbus because they really they're betting on themselves. And I always like it when teams and people do that in life. Now, I feel like I'm playing the role of Allender fans, they'll say, well, let's see we got Abberley and Lee that are free agents. Why aren't we trying to stockpile to try to win while we have them under contract? But I think looks at those guys is as sign -able. I don't know if Columbus can look Pinera number Brodsky assignable, right? I think it's pretty clear that Canarian erupts you're gonna go to market. I mean, and there's you know, you never know what's going into in someone's heart and their mind, but they obviously have some thoughts in their head or else. They would have just signed or they would have done something else. Right. So, you know, for me, I think that Anders Lee will be. I'm really surprising is not signed yet. I mean, I thought he'd been day he was named captain. It'd be the same day that he would be they'd be announcing a contract extension for him. But you know, I'm not privy to negotiations. And I'm sure that you know, the player wants. One thing the team wants to offer something else they've got several other guys you mentioned ever. Leave Brock Kelsen, Robin, Leonard. I mean, they've got about seven guys, but those are the kind of frontliners to that group of UFA's. So you know, I think Lou is gonna look at these guys as they move through the end of the regular season in the postseason. You don't he'll make his moves at that point? But I do think, you know, certainly in the case of Lee, and I think also in the case of the Leonard I think those guys both would like to stay ask forever Lee and Nelson. I mean, I think we'll have to see where they view themselves and where the team use them, you know, before you back to the trade deadline since we're on the topic of the islanders. I've never been a big believer in two goaltenders in the playoffs. Do you think we'll see both Greis and let her play in the postseason? Do you think these last twenty games? We'll begin audition to see who ends up being the starter. I think whoever's playing well down the stretch will end up being the star. But I get the sense. We'll see both guys I'm going. I think that you know, the islanders are not gonna team that are going to be blowing teams out. Right. So really closer games and goaltenders kinda go up and down. And I think it could be a good thing. That's the way they played it all year book cutting to work well with one another. I think one guy he'll get an opportunity to start when we opened the playoffs. Obviously, they'll pick one guy. And then if he plays, well he'll continue to start. And I think if if they struggle or if the goals enterprise while they can be very comfortable turning to the other guy. Then the other guy will get the opportunity to run with it for a while. So I get the sense. That's the way it will roll. And you know, berry trots will will watch over these last twenty games or so, and I think whoever's playing well at the end is going to be the starter. And then it'll go game by game. And I don't think that's such a bad thing for this group. They seem to be very comfortable with either going. All right. So we got a battle for first place in the central and there was a battle of the deadline yesterday between the jets and the predators of trying. To get things going. Did you get a sense of who did better than the other? Oh, I liked. What would have picked did better? Because it was it was a definitive need. I mean to go out and get Kevin Hayes as a second line centre-left shot Centerman like much like last year. They added fall that it was a left shot betterman this year. They've had Kevin Hayes. They're different players. I think at this point his career. I think compared to where that wasn't last point and his girl. I sure I think as might have more upside, I, you know, I think he does that more upside that extends he's a real smart players. So he probably has that advantage. I think hate certainly a bigger player. I think he's got more physical tools, but, you know, south news was a crafty guy is a crafty guy. So they filled this particular need it's like little back in three hole serves as gives Palma reach more options in his top nine to kind of move guys around. So I think it fit a particular need Nashville. You know, they're looking to really help their power play. They are person foremost, and they they they're kind of all on today as they probably should be with their roster. And having Simmons was a good net front guy that again knows Peter lobby lead played foreman. Philly can bring a certain amount of snarl to you know to the lineup. I mean you go against Winnipeg. Eventually they got some big players on that team. It's the big guys on defense. You gotta be having guys wanted to get into those areas and with grantland for Seattle. Interesting part of that was the Paul was obviously someone that worked for the national predators and David Poile for a long time. He knows the LA helped draft. And I think he's looking to make his Mark in Minnesota in ways that he can you know, we had DeNardo per coil. And now, he's added the Allah for grant for grantland. So, you know, from Minnesota I think they're just trying to trying to get a little younger and little bastard, but for national I think they're open brand like become help on the power play. Just a shame. Those two teams will probably have to meet in the second round because they're really going at it and battling and Saint Louis in the conversation to yes, they are. And I thought Dell's Ottawa's was an ice pick up for them. But you can't rule out the. Possibility of the blue spoil in that party at the top of the central. Yeah. No. Because you know, the blues knocked off the predator or something back to back games. Only a couple of weeks ago over the weekend on the Saturday and Sunday bunch of couple of afternoon games. So lose we're playing well. And if they continue to play at that level, they'll Bill they will be a a more difficult opponent in the first round. Then we may have expected of you know, Nashville is is in first right now, the circle as we speak by point. But they've played three more games than whenever they end Saint Louis, and you know, it's not out of the out of this world think the Saint Louis may be able to sneak up and catch Nashville they're not playing well. So they're seven points back, but they do have three games in hand. So time will tell but the blues have been on a really good run. The question will be you know, are they going to peak that run and are they gonna come back to earth a little bit where they gonna continue to play the way they've been playing. I guess we'll know the next, you know, couple of months here now without Vegas. They get stone. Sign them. You know, and you know, and I've heard some people say well looks like the philosophy changed their we in Vegas where there were stockpiling picks another role in wasn't this part of the plan to begin with that they put themselves in the position that if they were close that they can make a deal like this. Yeah. I mean when you think about it there. I, you know, draft pick was was Cody glass, they had two other first round picks that they that they were able to use to turn into other players as it turns out. I mean, they think Zouk you to the Canadian in return for patch ready. And now they've taken Branston and sent him, you know, to the senators in return for more than they subsequently wherever the sign March thrown into that to along. I mean, a very lucrative contract. Eight years times nine point five million, and and also in place, whether it's a you know, what you've no state tax. I believe there it Vegas that the Hollywood that contract is even higher. So, you know, I mean, yeah, that's the plan. I just wondered on this. I mean, I thought Vegas was such a great story last year. They were entertaining team. But the thing about him was they'd played fast. They were in your face. All that was that was who they were. And they had a real identity now since then they've ad and the patch ready and stone. And yeah, those players are all we can, you know, debate back and forth. How good we think? Those guys are. But they're all really legitimate jealous. I think marks donors terrific glare. But are those three guys guys that are going to help you push the pace and play with that temple that you basically would like to play with I I'm not so sure so I guess at the end of the day while they have added players that you would say are better. When you look at the roster on paper. I don't know if this is a better team right now. In fact, I don't think it's a better team than the one. They had last year that went to the Stanley Cup final any time will tell, but you know, it's one thing to pile up. Really good players. It's another thing to create a team and to fulfill the, you know, the philosophy of your coaching staff and the way you wanna play. So I'll be curious to see how it goes. But there's no doubt that marched on is a terrific player. And you know, what the fact that they were able to sign him to a long term deal was great for all we'll because they were able to add. Branston was a really in a prospect a left shot puck moving defenseman. And he's two years further along and development, if they would get a first round pick, you know, they there's no guarantee of who they would get, and they would have to you know, they'd be behind in development for the senators get a guy that looks like a really really high in prospect that to your point about a Vegas as far as where they stand now as opposed to last year, and I'm not to take anything away from what they did. Because it was a miracle run. Nobody expected it. They went to the Stanley Cup final. They were the best team in the west. They were the best team in the Pacific. However, they're able to take advantage of I thought of division in transition. You know, now San Jose in Calgary or clearly better. I mean so way better than they were last year. You know, so you look at them. They're not going to catch San Jose wr Calgary. And if they're not careful, you know, you gotta team like Arizona. That's only six points back with a game in hand. I mean, so Vegas is not in the same situation that they were last year. Now, I think San Jose with the addition of Carlson they just playing better than he did last year Calgary. Is really come together. Those were two teams I didn't think that the worry about they had a fading kings team. If you remember, you know, Anaheim is certainly fading. Now, you've got teams that have risen beyond them. And they're not the best team in the Pacific anymore. Yeah. No. And you know, look at the. William Carlson, for example, who is having a good year. He's not having a bad year. But through sixty three games he has eighteen goals. Now that's on page school. What like twenty five twenty three twenty four. I mean, he had forty three goals this year. He's a minus eight right now in the mind is what's mine that does not the be all end all but he was a plus forty two or something like that last year. So it just goes is that this team is is not playing to the level. They were last year. And then the, you know, the critical thing to is Mark Anri. Florida's played in fifty three games already. And they present is just over nine hundred ninety seven. So you know, he has played a lot. And you wonder if that's going to impact compla- come the postseason. So while adding Mark stone is a terrific benefit because he's a really good player. Does he really was? He really the thing they needed both Brian based on the fact they already had acquired as the and country. I'm not so sure certainly the short term he's a real talented player, and he will be a guy that plays. Well, but they have committed a lot when you think about trading way in eight plus prospect of defender puck mover, and then respond signing this player to a nine point five million dollar against the cap contract for eight seasons. So and we very interesting to see how that turns out over time avalanche. The only move they really made was getting up getting thought which I like right because he he's got a ton of experience in the postseason. So I think that was a nice acquisition for Colorado. Well, it'll be define situation for them to he'll be a second center. There won't be in Pittsburgh like where he was third or sometimes sportscenter he'll get his minute still use of an offense that situation. So I've every reason to to succeed and to play. Well, we'll see if he can do it. But he had a goal last night is debut. They ended up losing in overtime to Florida. That's the bad point to lose at home. But you know, the right of the mix it kind of the way things have shaken out now over the. Last two weeks. I mean at one point there was a lot of teams there. Now, it looks like, you know, maybe it'll be you know, those last couple like Minnesota, Dallas, Colorado. Maybe we'll be the three teams that are playing for playoffs about maybe our Zona could continue to stay connected to the pack. Maybe back couvert, but it has opened up a little bit. In fact, Chicago made that push at one point. I think was in a spot. You know, now sits there, I think it's five points back. So, you know, certainly, you know, things can change quick when you have the. Type in in the bottom of the Western Conference playoffs. Standing. Now, you had first place teams that were rather quiet when we talked about the islanders not doing anything. Tampa didn't do anything. That's explainable by the fact that they really don't need anything. Calgary was interesting Fanton Berg, they got to help the D. But there were relatively quiet for a team that possesses a three point lead on San Jose. Would were they active at all? And just couldn't get it done. Or were they kind of cool with the other team is. They were interested. I think they were really interested in March though, and they couldn't get done. I think you know, I don't know if they were able to you know, weren't able to satisfy his contract. I think they did have an inside track. There just when you think about Kelly mcrib who was the assistant general manager Vegas. I mean, he was the general manager in Brandon Brandon with the Brandon kings of the western Hockey League and marks Staal played junior there, and I'm sure that that's there's a there's a pretty strong connection there. So they might have had the inside track because of that. But Calgary was certainly very interested in Mark zone. Couldn't make a deal happen from what I understand. They were just in Wayne Simmons than Wayne would not waive his no trade to go to Calgary ended up waiving it to go to Nashville where he has Peter where we play for before. So I mean that was just a one of those things that I had heard about one hundred percent sure if that's accurate, but that's I haven't heard anybody that hasn't happened or didn't happen. You know? So I think they were in the next couple of these guys just didn't play out for them. And you know, this is still your this is still a really good team Calgary. And you know, they added fat and Burke who's day, you know, a back end left shot defenseman. I mean, they could use him in that third. Pay on the left side behind your dad of you know, end behind no Hannifin. So you know, they didn't do anything. But you know, it's funny. I don't like to be too critical teams that don't do much because sometimes that's the best play for your. We're gonna Asian is not to do anything to up and the apple cart. I mean. The islanders chemistry is really good this season. So maybe it's best. They're getting lad back. They're gonna Hickey back. Just think of those guys that deadline acquisition, Tampa as you said, it's not a lot. They could do to their group to make that much better. I mean, this is a really strong group as we can see by the standings. And you know, the Calgary Flames to I mean, they were interested in some things they weren't willing to pay a price. And in the end, the decision not to pay those prices, maybe something that's really beneficial to them. So so time we'll tell all right. Let's go to the tweets, shall we? All right. Let's go toady says in your opinion. What is the most impactful trade that was made the season? So I guess he's going beyond the deals that were made yesterday, and he'll call so glad force on his talking to you. Hopefully, he unblocked you. I don't know if you heard my fours land story. No, my Forslund story. Sorry, if I'm repeating myself any listeners out there, the the John Forslund, the voice of the Carolina Hurricanes does great job on NBC as well. Phenomenal human being does a great Chuck eight, and unfortunately that doesn't matter anymore. But anyway, I digress. I noticed that the NHL broadcasters have a Twitter handle, and they they follow like one hundred people, and they just started following me. Because there's a way to kind of get in touch with us because we have to vote for the jackass atoms. So I was looking to see who am I not following among our broadcasting brethren? So I get the Forslund following. But it just clicked on John profile, and it says that I'm blocked like why would John Forslund block me? So I saw him in Pittsburgh last week. And I said, listen, this is kind of embarrassing because it really doesn't matter. But I'm just kinda curious why am I blocked and you saw the color drained from his face. He's like what are you talking about? I don't even know how to block. People long story short. I guess it was an accident. So we got that resolved. But for secondary was kinda concerned that one of the nicest people on earth didn't like me. But that's not the case. So everything would say this John is not that night. Okay. Of I think he very old rated I I think that you know, in some ways, you could save the troubled guy and. You know? And I don't think that he's I don't I think that he was very absolutely aware that he bought you. So I look into this more deeply sounds like you're going to get walked. I couldn't be I couldn't make you know. I like, John. It's got a really good that. I hope he takes better the way if he hears it. It's the way it's again this please don't get on this understand. But it'd be blocked me blocks me. No. That's it. He says he doesn't know how to do it. Yeah. But you know, the signed out. Well, we got an education on blocking me. So now, maybe he knows how to do it and starts blocking everybody else. He's he's a good guy. Jotted down a really good. So what has been the most impactful deal so far this season? Good question. I mean. Impactful? It's hard to. It's it's too early to say, I mean, don't we have to see how things play out, of course, of you know, I mean. Why it's just a, you know, like Jake Muslim going to the Leafs. That's like three weeks ago. Nobody even remembers it anymore. Right. It'd be but that could end up being very impactful deal. When all is said and done. It's hard to say. I mean, you can you think of all the top of your head w say, that's that's probably the these are all just took place means zuccarello got traded. And he got hurt. Yeah. That's that's that's incredible. But giving going back like I said Brisard to talk to you. I know a Bill, and and your why he he I watched the first I watched the first part of that game. And like, you know, I was wondering how he's gonna fit it all these guys they go place you how he's gonna fit in. And he was absolutely buzzing. He had three points on he could've had six in twenty five minutes. I mean, he could have a goal you like all kinds of opportunities. It has dawned on me in his career. He has never played with a player as good as Tyler taken. Sure. And I mean, all of a sudden, I mean, they were just it was it was I mean, it was a real magical kind of start now against the Chicago. Blackhawks who play literally no defense, right? It's. It's maybe over, you know, maybe I would've had to see him play in different, you know, a couple of board games, but it's really unfortunate for Brazil Carello. And for the for the stars to see them get hurt like that. Now, he was buzzing. He was buzzing and listen every ranger fan the world's open. It's a lightning star Stanley Cup final. Because all the conditional picks that they give for both teams of that were to happen. The raiders speed. They're making pick after listen Zouk scored eleven goals in the postseason for the Rangers. Right. And I still think they might have won the Cup had he not gotten hurt in two thousand fifteen. So that's something that if he comes back, and he's healthy. And it looks like it'd be if he's out the month. You'll have a he'll have a few games of the regular season in the postseason to make an impact. You know? We didn't talk about Boston. You look at coiling. You look at Joe or ain't nothing that's earth shattering. But if those guys contribute to a Boston team that I think can be very dangerous in the playoffs. He'll we can look back and say those trades were great meal if haggling and Jensen do something for the capitals, and I think agenda got right into the lineup and and gets a contract. So. You know, we're we're focused so much on the jets and the predators and the blue jackets because from a bulk standpoint from a splashdown point they made the biggest impact. But I always go back. You'll cover me. Oh following the devils. You know, who thought that Neil Broughton would have the impact that he had on the devils ninety five's. Ron right? Is it was a deal that they made? It was a nice deal. But the next thing, you know, he's scoring huge goals and helping them to win a championship. So it's like the draft. Right. You got to see how it all plays out. And we'll see if any of these guys end up impacting what happens in the playoffs. That's right. And like last year. I mean, Michael Kathy goes to the capitals, and nobody was thinking much of that. I mean, the Blackhawks just couldn't wait to unload, the minor piece, and he ends up playing quite a bit and helping the Washington Capitals a lot of times it's those little small pieces because with two months left in the regular season as opposed to hard to plug in big pieces and have the ball fit. Sometimes you plug them in. And then it's the next season that they've kind of fit into your group and. Help you to have that ultimate success. But you know, time time will tell him in the air at Carlton deal that was this these that's a pretty impactful deal. We'll see if that how that plays out. There's been a lot of trades. Now, you think about around the league this, you know, going back to the preseason and into the regular season. And you know, time will tell Joseph says I like what Ray did with the devils. Now, they have a stockpile of picks who were some potential players. He can trade for in the off season. Well, you know, the the funny thing is that that Kincaid deal. You know, they got a fifth round pick it. Oh, that's good. They got a fifth round pick. But then you look and it's like twenty twenty two. I mean, that's like running like, I don't know how like in the negotiations. How does that happen? How does I mean? How do they get? Okay. I'll give you a fifth rounder. But what year right? Like twenty twenty two. You know? I mean, like where it's like it's like they spin the wheel of nothing, but the truth. Oh, look, I got a fifth rounder at twenty twenty two. Let me it's been it again. Oh like upper bowl seats in a Florida panther game. I mean, like the it's the bag of nothing. So you know, it's weird. But the you know to get back to that who could they trade for him. And it's a lot. There's going to be a lot of fall out in the off season. We have a bunch of guys. I mean, Pinera and goes to the market that'll be a big fish for everybody will be in on. You know, if Duchenne goes to market, there's another big guy that everybody will be at on teams will be looking to remake their teams with different pieces. So it's hard to spend on who will be available right now. I think the biggest thing to things to keep an eye over the devils as first of all, you know, Taylor hall. They shut him down for the rest of the year. And I think they probably should at this point. They're not gonna. Be playing meaningful games or out of it. So there's no sense in for me to risk your, you know, the most important asset of your team, and they've got to consider whether or not they're going to re-sign him to a long term deal. So that's going to be on the table for them soon. I think one more year left, and then the other thing is we don't house Corey side gonna play down the stretch. He's playing very well. Right now I had about of nowhere. And it's almost you know for fan perspective. It's almost ill-timed because you know, with the devils kind of fading out of you hear the last twenty games fan perspective. We don't really necessarily want the devils winning too, many games and moving up the standings, and and kinda further out of the sort of Jack use sweepstakes. So, of course, not or played very well a couple of years ago when it was the two thousand fifteen draft with mcdavid ankle, and I've always been one to say that question or floated the devils up the standings about six or seven spots higher than they should have been. And you know, who knows maybe he'll do it again. With his play down the stretch right now. But I think they have to know what they have at him or have. Yeah. For him because he's a terrific guy. And you know, it's been a really rough stretch for us. I'm happy for him. But it may not be so fortuitous for the devils. You know in terms of that. But if they also if if course Faulk continues to rise in the off season, they wanna cut a make over there goaltending. Then they would have they would have a piece that it would be tradable again as opposed to worry was, you know, two or three months ago Delhi wants to know how important is it for the Rangers to extend Kreider and avoid another Hayes zuccarello situation in next year's deadline. Well that is a decision. They're going to have to make. If they see Chris Kreider someone that's part of their long-term future. Right. And it's going to depend upon what we're Kreider wants and in term and dollars, and I would suspect he's going to want to, you know, six million dollars or so maybe warrant he's gonna want to, you know, six seven eight years in term in term, and that's going to be up to the Rangers management group and decide if they want to make they kind of commitment, you know, being in a rebuild. But that's it. I mean, they may have plans to step up for Panara on July one or two step up or any other free agents. You can excel right? You're rebuild in this league. And you know, so I think those are all considerations. The Jeff Gordon is gonna make. But bottom line is this, and I would say the ranger bands. If if Chris Kreider goes into the season without a contract that would tell me that they are likely thinking about moving them a deadline. So I'll be very curious to see if that's their plan. I think really they might be better said if they think that they're going to move on from Kreider, and he's. Part of the bigger picture. Maybe trade him in the off season where you can get a bigger return where a player has a full year left on a contract, and it would get at least that out of instead of being just a rental. So that's a big decision for Japan. Not sure which way is going to go. I like him. I I know sometimes he's a little inconsistent. But barring injury he's going to have his best statistical season ever. He's never scored more than twenty eight goals. He's got twenty six now with twenty left to play. He's been a part of the hottest line in the National Hockey League. He's he's become more of a leader a go-to guy in that room. He speaks Russian. So I think he's he someone that can communicate with all types of players. And if they look at him as a future, captain of this team and get it done, you know, but you know, like with as in zuccarello, you know, those guys they couldn't get something done, and they were forced to trade him. So, you know, everybody wants to kill the Rangers. Even on the case shows like why they get rid of Hayes. Why didn't they extend them? It takes to Tango. I think they wanted to extend them. But doesn't mean they're going to give them everything the player wants, you know, so. You know, that that that always factors into it too. Right. I mean, well, of course, I mean, there's I think there's a lot that factors into it. And I think they saw Kevin Hayes as someone that was just swing in his game. You know, if they sign a long term, you know, one of they getting for those years, and and you know, they're going to get the guy who's gonna come in night after night after night, you know, be that guy for you. I think they just weren't convinced that they were and I think at the end of the day, that's why they'd ride movie. Movie mostly what happens with Winnipeg? Maybe he becomes the more consistent player, and it come July. First, you know, they'll have a chance like everybody else to to sign to a contract eight hundred grade spot. Yeah. Here is playing with some really good players. And he ended up getting a chance to play with Patrick line. And he'll wanna eat, right. There's a guy that can score goals. So they got a good team when when they're all healthy. So he should be. It should be a really good opportunity for them fit is always interesting chemistry is always interesting. So we'll be watching that closely or Kevin plays. Well, his value will go up and who knows maybe because the July. I I mean, the Rangers could get back in on what you think about it. I mean, the Winnipeg Jets it'll probably be much like it was with pastas they last year because of the number of contracts they're committed to they likely won't be able to resign Kevin Hayes, and he goes to market, maybe the New York Rangers ended up residing full tower that case as well. That's always a possibility. Chris says hi guys are flyer fans like myself were a little concerned with Ryan Hartman was a first round. Pick which icago traded away after his first full season where he scored nineteen goals than traded by Nashville who gave up a first round pick for them. What's the real deal with Hartman? I just think he hasn't reached the expectation level that some of the teams have form I remember from the two thousand thirteen winner a world junior championships for team USA was part of the gold medal team there, and he's an abrasive player. And I think probably a little inconsistent. Sometimes, you know, not always in tune with what the coach wants. And you know, I think he's got to learn to play better away from the puck. And and try to be more consistent like a lot of young players. But he's definitely a guy that is you know, he's a player he's gonna play in this league. And they get him. You know, someone that's like a younger version not as good as wings. But a younger version of that kind of guy that's going to go in battle in the courts and battle in front of the net. And kind of be abrasive many might be a guy that Philadelphia fans take to if he continues to develop and his game. It's kinda like, you know, lesser to a lesser degree. Brendan Lemieux who the raiders picked up in the deal from Winnipeg. I mean, he's another abrasive player. He's closed the you son, and you know. Really second round pick a couple of years ago, and he went from buffalo and Winnipeg and now Winnipeg to the Rangers the bottom six guy, but he's one of those energy guys that fan bases tend to like so be curious to see how the fans take the both of those players. And I think in Larry Brooks wrote about this too on Sunday. And I think it's true. There's twenty games left to be played. You don't wanna get pushed around. So maybe you can just be that guy because you let mcquaid go McLeod win. So you do have some younger players and you want to protect the heat in the Anderson's. It got really nasty. I thought on Sunday in Washington and the Rangers stood up themselves strong got into a fight. But you also don't wanna get pushed around for the last twenty game. So maybe Lemieux if they decide to dress them and certain games against physical presence can be a little bit of a protector for for some of the younger guys of the rest of the regular season. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's definitely he's someone that is comes to the rank to play. He plays with an attitude. So we'll see we'll see how it plays out form with the Rangers. All right, buddy. Thank you so much. I know it's been a busy couple of days for you. So we'll try to reconvene on Monday. That would be wonderful. All right. We'll talk to you soon, buddy. All right. That's that's the great EJ Radic because he does a great job. And that's why I call him the great EJ. And if you want more of them all you have to do is turn on NHL network Monday through Friday from four to six eastern does a great job on NHL now games tonight sharks? And the Bruins from Boston. Bruins have lost regulation. Really since before the all-star break thirteen games. There are thirty six seventeen and nine goping the sharks where thirty seven eighteen and eight flames of the islanders from Brooklyn. This is an interesting one flames didn't do very much. They added some defensive help at the deadline yesterday. I didn't do anything at all. But they've got the capital's creeping up just a couple of points out of a playoff spot. So the islanders trying to maintain their sabres lose in Toronto to be in Philadelphia tonight to take on the flyer sabres on life, support senators and the capital's capitals with an excellent chance to win against the senators team that traded off twelve their pieces, but senators have come to play give them credit. And certainly the capitals have been a little up and down. So that'll be interesting kings and Carolina Hurricanes in the same boat. Desperate for playoff position. Pittsburgh's on the outside looking in right now, they'll be in Columbus to take on the blue jackets all these deals are made now. So the pressure comes on Columbus to see if they can't cash in with all these players that they traded for because they didn't do it just to make the playoffs. They did this to make a run at the division. So a great test revolt. These teams I think that's going to be an interesting game second back to back. So the Canadians they lost to the devils at the rock. They'll be in Detroit to take on the Red Wings and Canadians trying to establish playoff position blues and the predators as we said the central divisions up for grabs. Right Nashville may deals Winnipeg made deals the blues the hottest team in the NHL that should be fun wild. And the jets jets make their move. So they're ready wild have been hot as of late trying to sneak into the playoffs Panthers in the coyotes. Cody still have a pulse stars. And the Golden Knights to is Dallas without mat-su guerrilla now for the next month try to make things work on the road versus Vegas, all these games. So vitally important the. 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31 Teams. 31 Thoughts. 31 Trades?

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31 Teams. 31 Thoughts. 31 Trades?

"Ready to rock and roll one two three four five six seven eight nine ten unfriendly my last apple okay well nourished podcast Elliott. Are You caffeinated? I am caffeinated. Now Elliott. Are you awake? I am awake and look just because I don't remember texting you in the morning doesn't that I'm asleep. I'm going somewhere with US okay. The Elliott appaled am appaled. Elliott are you cracker D-. I am crackers. Are You cheesed. I am cheesed. That was your lunch today. Yes it was Jerez. Let's get going before we get to the full thirty one team. Rundown of WHO's in WHO's out. Who's at the card table? Who's walking away? Say about to break into Kenny Rogers Song here in a second. I'm not Wanting to hold them in a folder go nowhere. Nowhere to walk away. No into run tyler. Toffoli is now a member of the Vancouver canucks Tyler Madden a second round draft pick and a conditional fourth go the other way you write about this in thirty one thoughts sports net dot CA. Why brush thoughts on this one? I understood why Vancouver did it. They got some injuries. I think this probably goes back to how you felt about what Columbus did last year. Did you support what the Blue Jackets did or not if you liked with the blue jackets did which I agreed with? Then you support. What Vancouver did today from a logical point of view from a now? You're making faces okay. Well does have that differs. Who plays they're about to walk away their cornerstones the goaltender in the winger and there are elite level players. And we all knew they were going. Vancouver's GonNa have guys that are walking away their last Hurrah. Yes they could Jacob Marcham. That is one very good okay. He's a huge part of their team. He's an MVP LA. He's not just a goaltender this season. He's an MVP level. You don't think they're going to get to jake marks from contract dunk. Well betting said the other day they tabled it till the end of the season. Right that says to me that they can't get it done at least not right now in the history of the NHL Niimi the one goaltender has won the Vezina trophy and then walked away from his team. There's one know how many of them are free agents that no. That's the point like this. This would be a rare but the canucks have cab issues right. They have cap issues. They're sitting there you know. They've got the Longo penalty there a deep team. But that means they've got guys lower down the lineup or making a lot more money than average players would be down lower in the lineup. What do you do? They're going to pay Patterson That's GONNA be huge in Queens. Going to be huge too and that's on the horizon. I think the two Foley's appear rental. Well I understand that but that also affects what you can do with marks from right uh-huh and what we learned. We've learned the young players now. They aren't really that content with the bridge deals. They want the big deal right away. So if you're Vancouver you've got to be preparing for it. You'RE GONNA pay how much you paying. Patterson you're paying him ten on. What are you paying us? If he keeps going this way I said last week the night of the deans. I was voting today when he was my caller. Guy K. Imagine. Here's another year like this now. Sources tell me. He can't win the calder Trivia. Second time how but if anyone can could be quin hughes but you know what are you paying him? So you're sitting here and you're looking at this and you're figuring out your cap situation. It's not easy so yes I do. Think there are comparisons. Plus they've been out of the place for four years. They've won three playoff game since two thousand eleven their divisions not very good. They're right in the middle of it. They're deep they see. They compete hard. They're flawed everyone's flawed. But the thing is like in. You know if you don't do anything by Monday. That team sits there. It sees an empty locker for Besser. It sees an empty locker for Leo. It sees an empty locker furland. And you do nothing. And what are the players do unless they go full major league and they bring a cutout of Jim Benning into the room? Pule a strip of clothing off every time they win again. See I look at it in terms of winning cycles and where is Vancouver at on their winning cycle and unlike Columbus where last year we knew was going to be load up. It's a last Hurrah this bunch and then it's going to be a step back for Columbus now. What they've done. This year is magnificent. I think it's speaks to a lot of the work. John Tortorella Kick Elaine and Have already done And did they get like the Golden? Yeah of course they did. But goaltenders are Voodoo as we've seen before I look at the Vancouver canucks and say listen even if they don't make the playoffs is here. There's still heading upwards on their winning cycle and that's where I see different than Columbus Situation. I do understand your point of looking at you know. Oh there's no better And install. Oh where's leave? Oh where's Ma like? I understand all the things that you're saying. The only question to me is how much of the future are you willing to sacrifice just to get into the playoffs. This season now. The one thing that I do like about the move is for all those Pedersen's in queens and all those players who have never experienced a playoff chase and what eighty two meaningful games feels like getting to the play offs. I find value in that. The only question is is that worth the mall specifically the second round pick and is that worth Tyler Madden. I agree with you on one point and someone from Vancouver said this to me. They do also believe there at the beginning of their cycle. You know they feel that. Patterson and Quinn are barely scratching the surface of where. They're going to go completely. Agree with that okay. Hundred percent agree with that. Here's the other thing though. You've got to sell tickets. It's been a little bit soft there at times when they've been losing. That's a factor. Don't kid yourself if they win their division who they're going to plan the first round the wild card from the central maybe not writing wildcards from. There's there's a better than decent chance that it's going to be someone from their own. Division like Nashville is the team. It should be. That's the wild card. Pardon the PUN. But that's the wild one and all this. They're winning three one. Three games in a row beat Saint Louis twice and then got derailed by Karen. The cough up a hairball lake. I cannot figure out that team there so schizophrenic I cannot figure them out but my point is if you're Vancouver and let's say for the playoffs you get besser back Okay and maybe leave Obama. They don't really seem to know. Why can't it be you in the playoffs? But any but that's my point like when do you bet on yourself but you're bidding on yourself with the rental and you're getting rid of a piece of the future. The count their top prospect to fully up put Colson and hog. Lander are still there. And I'm with you on that one I put and this is maybe speaks more to where I I value Tyler Mad. I think he's a hell of a player. I like him a lot and I see. I disrespected him. To be honest. I didn't include him in the list. I'd calls in and Hog. Lander are clearly one to all right. Y'All y'all we all know that and I put madden three and don't think he's a long shot to make fine it's at northeastern and all of a sudden he's on the Vancouver canucks. I think that highly of this kid you know. The thing is like sports is about emotion. Okay like I try to look at it as logically as I can and I wrote this in my blog by sports is about emotion and I think sometimes you have to let your emotions go and this to me like I'm a gambler right. I like to gamble. I like to play cards. I like to bet on Games. Part of gambling is knowing when to pick your spot on the Vancouver canucks. This year haven't made the playoffs in four years. Got A good team. Plays hard is Marsha. I'm GONNA be back. Not sure is going to be back. Odds don't favor it. Someone else may have to go divisions not very good lecture deep with prospect. Your jeep fraud guys. That are coming out of the lineup. We can all fight about that. I was happy for Zach. Mcewen that he really seems to be totally out from that roster within fight about how many of those guys are going to play but the fact is they've got a few all I can do is say if I was sitting in the same seat what I make the same move and my answer is yes. I'm making this gamble now. I'll tell you this if I knew that I was gonNA play Dallas or Colorado or Saint Louis in the first round. I don't know if I make that bet but I'm not. They're not playing those guys but if you're playing. Winnipeg I make the bet you don't make the benefits Dallas or. I might not make the bed if I thought I was getting Dallas or Saint Louis or Colorado or Colorado. We're GONNA get all these teams now. As if they completely crapped the bed they might end up playing one of those teams. But you're looking at it from now and saying we can avoid it. Would it be a disaster if they miss after making this move we disaster yes? Oh I wouldn't say it's a complete disaster but it's a big disaster. I think there's a bit of a difference between big and complete. We are really splitting hairs. Here early Okay we're GONNA get to Vancouver and we're GONNA get to Minnesota a little bit later. On the reason I bring up Minnesota the other big story from around the NHL. This week before we run down. the teams that are in the teams that are out and you're full trade deadline preview. Bruce Boudreau dismissed in Minnesota. Okay I think I've kind of figured out this one okay. I think that Bill Garin is sitting there now. This is my opinion. I think the bill Garin is sitting there. And He's thinking of if we pull this off we're gonNA have to bring them back so force the issue now with Boudreau and if you go on the run then he's now I think they had some legit headbutting there over rosters so this is Chicago Chicago situation. We'd love to fire Quenneville but dammit he keeps winning. I don't even know if it was that that organization there was a lot of infighting yup like one of the great untold stories about Chicago. Is They won three Stanley cups in six seasons and people. They're really get along and it's the kind of that's okay though well. It's the kind of infighting derailed other organizations. I think honestly I think stuff like that is healthy and sports and I don't think you need to like someone to do business with the many can actually clearly jerk. Well I was talking to our producers the bigger idiot than you are but But to me the Chicago stuff it sounds like at times it went beyond. I think disagreement is healthy. You don't yes very good. You got me there for for sick healthy. I never want to be surrounded by people who tell me what I wanna hear and the good thing about working at this place is that I'm surrounded with people who constantly tell me like we should tell you there's a great and you started to do it now when. Berkey gets off the air after a segment or sees us after a segment. Like you'll see you go good job Jeff. And then he'll ignore me or he'll do a good segment Kelly and Dave and totally ignore me and it never fails to make me laugh always funny every time but the Chicago stuff went beyond. I think what was at times healthy. It was almost like at times. They couldn't share in the victory so I think it's kind of amazing. There were successful as they were over over. That time Garam would have had to have brought Boudreau back if they had the running. Got To the playoffs coaches dismiss. Well how how would you like Bruce Boudreau? There were several times in the past two years where I think the GM wanted to let them go. I'm Paul Fenton did I think. Bill guaranteed protected by the owner. DidN'T WANNA pay off contract. Poodles CONTRACT ENDED THIS SERIES. A couple years left and consulting. But I think he's GonNa end up coaching. I think there's too. Many vacancies needs to good a coach. That he's not GonNa end up somewhere and you know you can talk about that. His playoff record isn't great. You still gotta get there. This is a hard league to make the playoffs and he generally makes the playoffs much more often than not so. I think the owner stopped it from happening Didn't want to pay off the salary you know. They had some real challenges. There he had three. Gm's to them who didn't pick him like what coach survives that to this point. I was thinking about this when he got fired. How many coaches have ever had three general managers? Yeah other way around totally true. Secondly I don't think the staff was very harmonious. I think they really had to battle at times to sort out which was weird about that. Because Bob Woods and Dean evison were guys. Who were they worked with him before? I think the way it Kinda got put together at times this year with Everson brought in by Fenton. It just breeded some mistrust that they all had to sort out. I don't think that was it. Didn't those guys weren't putting great situations initially to succeed and the other thing too is. Minnesota has a really tough room at the veterans. You've got very headstrong veterans. You've got suitor. Who's got a big stick in that room? You've got Parisa who's got a big stick in that room clue and at the same time has kind of struggled with the fact that at times his career hasn't been as strong as he would have liked it to be and then you've got Koivu. Who was the big stick? Those guys got there and at times. I think chafed under what those guys brought. I don't think it was easy. And Boudreau had to all that and then this year came the kids and Fiala looked like he was going to be right out of the League. Denardo is really struggling. They put a lot of hope. Incontinent greenway and all the sudden those guys started coming and they were leading the charge. And I think all of those things weren't easy they six and a brutal schedule at the beginning of the year. I had a governor telling me that if his executives had allowed that scheduled to happen to their team He would have fired them. He said like you cannot let the League do that to you. What was done to Minnesota at the beginning of the season? They looked like they were dead. They looked like a team that was going to finish in the bottom of the league and they charged and I think there were questions about usage. I think there were questions. I do. Think Boudreau bow with his veterans. I think the kids really thrive which was good for Minnesota. But I do think and I will tell you. There's a number of coaches who feel the same way to that Garin Boudreau that marriage might have had to continue and they didn't think it was healthy for anybody they said. In the long run Garin Boudreau will be better off that this move happened. There are a lot of coaches out. There everything comes in Howson's her lennon this one and get to the trade deadline preview so a lot of coaches that are out there right now. Who should we have our EYES ON FOR MINNESOTA? Well I'll tell you this. I've heard a lot of Doug weight now and you strickland who I think is a really good reporter and is based in Saint Louis were Doug. Weight is a lot of connections. He tweeted that you know. Doug Weight doesn't want to coach. And maybe that's true but at a number of people told me that Doug Wade son Danny he plays for the penticton. V'S ABC H. L. And Doug spent a lot of time watching them this year. Hey be a dad man. I one shot to do it. You've got one hockey good on you. Like the most important thing apparent actually do is be apparent so I I'm great with that but you know Doug Weight and Bill Garin of a long history and I do think the Dugway at some point will be the Minnesota Organization role. I don't know but it's possible. It could be the coach if not then. I think you'll hear Laviola. Minnesota tends to have a really strong. Usa Hockey Connection. Yeah one thing. I didn't realize until it was late. Was that Paul Fan. Didn't get fired because this whole Minnesota. Bu Miracle on ice thing Ed but it was a factor like they didn't like there. There's a territorial group there. That doesn't like the Boston guy coming in and telling them Minnesota guys what to do so but I think it's a very strong USA hockey market. And I think they would lean USA hockey if they could and the fact that guarantees they're probably adds to it all right. Take a sip of coffee. Get ready because we are going to empty out the brain of Elliott Friedman here as we kick off the podcasts thirty-one thoughts supplied gas brought to you by GMC Sierra trucks full trade deadline preview. Okay Elliot here. We go team by team not divided by conference but by Alphabets Liens. We start with the Anaheim formerly mighty ducks who have fallen on tough times. They have a guy who I think. There's some interesting and that's Derrick Grant He's there a center. Who played really well for him. Bob Murray really likes Derek Grant and had a really good year this year to me. He's a perfect depth center For the play offs I think Andrea causes a guy who had some interest. I believe there was almost trained to Carolina. There are other teams like him. He's a guy that would go depending on health. I think that's something that worries people but from what I've heard like they're big guys. The Lynn homes the Fowler's the Manson's the Silverberg the Kells. They aren't going anywhere like Racal's rebels not having a great year. Sure but he's still going to get between twenty five and thirty goals. He makes three point eight million Lake Wyatt trading that in itself Brooke. If you're Bob Murray and you see the return for Jason Soccer do you not look at sulphur? Burg and say No I don't think so. I got the I know I get it all of it but I just look at what Pittsburgh gave up to bring in Jason's Anaheim on Mike Cannon breaking in a lot of kids and I want some more lottery tickets here. No I don't think so. I don't think Anaheim will do that. I think Kasa brings you that right like Cast is the guy that gets you the first row. Now if he's healthy because he's got term first round I think you. I had heard that they believe they could get a first router for him. By the way I think the other guy they would consider moving Henryk by. I don't know what his value is right now at times this year. He's been their best player. I I mean it's I've heard his name out there a bit of a center so you kind of fish and see right Okay to the Arizona. Coyotes two names stick out here. Fill in if there's any more Carl Soderberg and Taylor Hall. I still don't believe Taylor. Halls getting trade Arizona's. They're recovering that huge weekend. They beat they beat Washington and they beat the islanders at home. While you Tracy Taylor Hall Carl Soderberg. They need centers see. I wonder if Arizona's going to be in it to get more scoring like I think. That's they're always looking for scoring right and they still struggle to score at times. I think Arizona's going to add. Subtract Boston Bruins. We know they want to add Their team name has been linked to Chris Kreider. They have picked one two and three their own. Have some prospects from what I heard. They weren't crazy about giving up their first rounder for Coleman and that's why the the get em they were in it Edmonson was wanting to give up their first rounder and so was Tampa. Obviously and that's why they got it done and Tampa had to. They gave him the Vancouver one. Like I've heard that Boston isn't crazy about giving up a first round pick. They hit a couple years ago for Nash. I don't think they WANNA do it again. Now I think its Kreider or it's Paul. Mary and I'M GONNA throw one other name in there brandon. Saad they might consider it because though crowder doesn't have term but they're getting a first round for him but Saud Palmeri. I wonder if Boston would do it. I think Boston would prefer to do one of their younger players. Who may be hasn't gotten as much of a run and Boston as anyone would hope. You're Vaknin maybe I don't know like maybe a bjork or something like that. Okay so that okay. Yeah like I think that. That's kind of ejects. The Nikkei or anything like that like Sydney still think they have high hopes for him right So I think that's what they would prefer to do. I think the biggest question is and it's tough to tell them because I think there are really smart and generally really calm organization. But how do they feel about what's going on around them? Well that would be my question. Pittsburgh's made their move their big move. Tampa's made their big move. If you're Boston dear respond. I think that's one of the questions. Were all kind of asking. I think they will do something. I think the Bruins as our windows with these guys. We feel. We can beat anybody. We lost the Stanley Cup last year and a game seven the Charlie coyle trade turned out to be really good for them. They know they might not be able to keep torey. Krug after this year. And he's a big part of what they do like. I like Coleman I like to fully but I think at the end of the day the Bruins said if we are going to spend our biggest piece. It's going to be on more than that. And that's why I think it's Kreider Palmeri. Maybe Saad and also with Boston. I know we'll talk about him later when we get to the Blue Jackets Jeff. Josh Anderson's health. I think that's another thing. The bruins are keeping an eye on buffalo sabres. It's never good when your general manager becomes a gift but we saw that on Tuesday with Jason bought from all way through down the paper out. I mean it's been such a nightmare for them this year like. I think he's really trying to do things. I think he's really trying to do things I think he's been trying to do things all year. People in Buffalo are like you. GotTa make a trade. You GotTa make a trade. You gotTa make a trade. It's not like they haven't tried to make a trade. They've been trying to make trades all season and they can't get anything. I think they got a lot of good side pieces Connor Sherry. I've heard you know Pittsburgh and if Nashville Sherry Pittsburgh New Matt. Cullen going back they know I've also heard potentially Nashville like John. Heinz had Sherry in in Wilkes Barre but I think that probably depends on does Nashville. They think they're in it to they go for it. That way. You'll hand Larson. I gotTA think somebody's GonNa take a chance on Johan Larsson in the playoffs. Evan Rodriguez you know. They couldn't trade emerged earlier in the year because the number was two big two million. I think he gets dealt. I think it's possible. Jimmy Visa could get dealt Michalik. Yeah I think that's possible to occasion. There's something going on. There currently suspended for now reporting to Raj everybody's being quiet which leads me to believe. There's some kind of thing they're working on like I don't know determination to make him a free agent or whatever it is but they're working on something. Their wrist aligning see. Here's the thing like wrist. Aligns value is down. I think they were always hoping they could get top to center for wrist aligning. I don't think they're going to be able to do that now. So you know I. I think it's tough. Like traded scandal for a fourth and Montreal Delta for a second and a conditional fourth. Yeah it's like it's. It's been hard there this year and again. I don't think it's lack of trying. I think that if you ever get a hand on Jesus bottles log for this year you'd see a lot of things that he got proposed that in the long term people are going to say thank God. He didn't do that you know. I think the biggest wildcard there is you know what does it look like next year is bottled back is Kevin Adams elevated to a higher position. Is Ralph Krueger elevated in the organization? I I don't think anybody really knows what the Petunias are going to decide. Another coach for jackals two point. Oh I don't know I just know that they're really frustrated. And I think all options are being discussed already to the Calgary flames First of all is this the last shot for the flames with this group. I think so I think so. Monaghan Guerrero no brody. I brodie hamburger on restricted now. I know that negotiations with Ham this year having been close Brody is in a situation where they've tried to move quite a bit using the Caggiano hasn't he? Yet I saw is yes he was. It's been weird. They've had some unbelievably good performances and some unbelievably bad performances. There are really inconsistent team. And we've talked about this. They were in around to fully. Although at the end. I think they kind of backed away. There's no point for them to pay that price for to fully. Not not the same point Vancouver. Did unless you look at it and you say I always do something like this. And it's a big downfall for me always because it's two different leagues but I say well. They played together with the Ottawa. Sixty seven's and they were magical together in junior and let's see what happens. Listen to that same thing happened with Dylan. Stroman Alex debrincat in Chicago and for Awhile. It worked. But that's why I looked at to fully in Calgary and it said you know what maybe they're maybe they're shame on you know I. I think they looked at it. But I don't think at the end like it didn't make sense like if you wanna go get tailored to fully. Your best bet is to do it this summer. Think to fully goes back. La I know he likes being in California. Like the thing about Calgary is. I'm a big believer in players. Determine the future of team I think they could become into the end of this run Carolina Hurricanes They have to first round draft picks to me believe Traffic Traffic Golfer. Patrick Marlowe is top. Ten protected We've talked about Eric Hala. Before radio. Now Carolina hurricanes are seeing what life without Dougie? Hamilton is and they don't like it. No big win in Nashville though on on Tuesday night. They don't like rentals. The owner doesn't like rentals think. They've tried to move Gardner. Not a lot of takers there. I'd heard they were interested in lanner but somebody after I kind of mentioned that in my blog the other day somebody reached out to say. They don't think Carolina's GonNa do that. Morozov played his best hockey at the end of last year. And also as someone reminded me. It's very difficult to bring in a new goal in the middle of the Season Carolina. Lakes turn if they trade for somewhere they give up something to get someone. They like term. So who's the guy with term that they're gonNA go get out there and also the other thing too about Carolinas they trade. They made a deal. The other day would go che. Julian Goce fourth in the NHL Angles. Twenty six and they trade them for young defenseman. Who's also playing pretty well in the H. L. that the Rangers just didn't have a lot of room for someone made a good point to me about ideally said Julian Goce. The kind of guy uses a sweetener to get deal a bigger deal done the fact that Carolina made that trade says to him that they didn't feel they needed that sweetener because they didn't like what was out there or they're not prepared to do anything to big and out going to get the Rangers here in a couple of moments Let's mortar on Chicago. Blackhawks Gustafsen Crawford. So I've cap space the AC Colorado. I heard after rube our got hurt or even before grew our got hurt but probably after I heard they were looking around on him. You know I think Chicago is going to make a decision like if you're trading one of these guys Crawford or ladder. What are you doing for next year? Are you going out and getting to new guys? We've been talking all season long contract waiting in a drawer for one of them. I'm not as convinced about that now. The Way Lemming Day may go shopping with an empty grocery cart. Well I just think it's possible. I mean I heard the biggest thing with Leonard has term lenders. May as position very clear. I mean the guys are reporters dream. He wears on sleep tells you everything. He thinks he thinks he deserves to get a fair contract. I'm not sure Chicago's willing to go. Where he considers fair and I heard last week and I wrote about this about the game he had in Edmonton where he just didn't look like himself Do that had people speculating that. Maybe the talks weren't going that well now someone said to me don't say they're dead because they could always get revisited but I think initially Chicago's position was not where lender wanted it to be like I was talking to another GM and he said to me that is going to be one of the hardest negotiations to do it. The deadline this year is going to be leaner and Chicago because he can see Chicago wind to keep him because he's made them better this year. I think they believe in his ability but what they wanna do and what he wants to do is very different. There's so many goals available right now in terms of free agency in one guys in one eight guys that the goal is don't have the leverage as much says if you're willing to walk away and it's always not so easy. Talks about March from in Vancouver is an area that it's beneficial to you so he thinks it's the hardest negotiation unit who needed letter this year. Who Buffalo. Yeah. Of course kind of funny how that works out but I think Chicago a lot of things on the table. They'd Gustafsen they have the two goalies sawed and You know Keith told one of their reporters. I can't remember. It was Mark Lazarus or Scott. Powers that he's not inclined to do it this year. Now if they only know trade to go to the Florida Panthers or anybody anybody. Everybody talks about for it. I think the panthers would love to have Duncan Keith. Okay you mentioned Colorado Injuries the call of the day. They're Mika Ranson. And natsume Qadri Mad Calvary mentioned Philip. Grube our what happens to Joe Sakic's crew here come Monday. Why they're looking at two different things I think. They're looking at some short term inexpensive options. I think domestic of would be a guy who would be on their radar because it will cost them like a mid round pick and they can plug them in and they've liked domestic off before Like I think they would on Kreider. I had someone tell me they were on Thomas to Tara but I don't think that's going to happen. I think they're looking for both defensemen and forward. I can think Colorado sees it as a year they can go for it and I think they want to add though. I also think. They're looking at some inexpensive options to plug in while cadre and rant and all those guys get healthy and I think they're also looking for goaltending depth. I wouldn't be surprised if they go out. And get a depth goalie Columbus blue jackets Jones Vendor Murray Atkinson texts all injured Josh Anderson Question Mark What is Columbus did. Well I think the biggest question is what John Sanderson's health if you're Columbus. And you get. The Blake Coleman offer for Josh Anderson. Do you do it? I always a tough negotiator. Love Josh. Andreas I know that there are only a handful of players like that in the league. And when you have one you don't let them go last time around. I know the negotiation was tough. And it's not GonNa get any easier this time. I know but just because the negotiations going to be tough. Does that mean you walk away from a player? That's a team. That negotiates hard and Darren Farris the agent negotiates hard on the other side of it. See I think that right now there would be a ton of interest in him. If you knew he was gonNA play I think that's the concern is the health but let me ask you. If you were Columbus would you take that return and then do something else with it I think Columbus was in around on Martinez to. I can't get past the trading of Josh Anderson. I just see how valuable those players are. And even if you get that offer the Coleman offer. I don't know that you do it. That's how valuable I think he is and that type of player is in the NHL Right now. Nobody does that. Nobody does what he does occur. That's why I look at them. Solicit beginning to trade him like. If I'm the Boston Bruins. Gary did Boston. But if I'm Boston and you know the Josh Anderson is one concern about the start. It's not as play. It's the health by the way as an aside that bumps from kids going to be real good see yes he is and I could also see Columbus trying to do something like I mentioned with Colorado like an inexpensive add to reward their players. Like you can't pay the same price I think is to fully because he did it last year But I could see are missing. Our guys played hard there in the race. We've got to help them out the Dallas Stars and by the way before we get to Dallas one. I mentioned Monday. Our sit down interview with Dallas head coach. Rick Bowness will drop. Let's hear a little bit of a preview of US sitting down with components. You were once a real life. Reggie Dunlop and had the jacket prove it I was. I was a player coach in the American Hockey League Back in nineteen eighty two eighty. Three I believe what happened was Ron Roussette had been named the head. Coach of the American Hockey Winnipeg jets. We're moving their farm team to Sherbrooke Schubert jets and run. It had a brain tumor removed in July so he was not ready to start the season. So I was the captain of the team and basically a playing assistant coach anyways at that point in John Ferguson Senior The GM at the time asked me to fit going until crabby Christmas as player coach. And I didn't know what I was doing so I should sure I'll do I can do that. Doesn't sound hard way over my head so as little as I know now and I knew a lot less than but I saw I was player coach and I would come off the ice and I would stand behind the bench and then I would bench myself for a lot of time to play so but I was a player coach and unfortunately Ron was able to come back so I did finish the year as player coach of all the players that you've had all the hold on one side yet because part of this is televised and we have to give a shadow to The cash Jews podcast which is Kevin B and Ryan Kesler because without them. I wouldn't have known this but you had a Reggie Dunlop Jack and for those who can see this on Youtube. This is not it. What happened is not it and I took so much abuse from those two that I had to retire. It my wife's body she loves you loved it and I wore for a little bit but again the verbal abuse in those two guys. I couldn't take it anymore but I did were when I wasn't around them. I love. That jacket was great. It was very comfortable. Didn't matter what looked like it was very comfortable. Hey Comfort is more important than anything else. Okay that comes out on Monday. The Dallas Stars. We saw them in the off season bringing in players. I- Corey Perry and Andre Sacra. What happens with Jim? Nils team come Monday. I think they're gonNA look for some speed and maybe a bit of scoring like one guy. I've kind of wondered. I wonder if they're the team that takes a shot with Athen. Ac- You ooh from the traits and we're GONNA get there in a moment because Jim nill would know him. Yes the there are a playoff team but they could use a burner and he might be the fastest player in the NHL. I mean I one. Gm Tell me if they were trading for him. They wouldn't do it at the deadline. It would be a summer deal because you got to get acclimated with all your guys. There's a risk to bring him in the middle of a season. But if anyone could do it you think it's the GM awesome right. Listen I understand that new guy in the room is always challenging and difficult in new? That's a pretty big personality. Yeah huge personality support in a room. Young really comfortable true or false with your leadership group. If you're doing that move in at the end of February the they'll way all this stuff but that's the one team I've kind of wondered would they ever Edmonson and yes can haul in those them well to to me. He is the kind of player the Dallas could really use a burner with finish. You know the other thing here. This year is that I don't think it's an easy trade to make because Detroit is going to say we're training with thirty goals scoring Dallas going to say I I also wonder if Joe Thornton goes. I could see this being a fit. You already jump into San Jose but I just you know I got a mention it earlier. Because he's there okay. That's t's have a bigger conversation about your thornton later and I'll talk about hockey poetry in the Boston. Bruins ending the career there and I'll becomes a Dallas owes. Its the dream San Jose Sharks Detroit Red Wings is all of it have to go. Is it all for sale? Is it all out on the front lawn? As long as it's not Dylan Larkin in Anthony. Mantha everybody's known WHO's available from Detroit for a long time now like that years. Been such a year from hell for them. I've got no desire to put the boots to them anymore. But the one thing is and it's just the truth is that nobody on that teams trade value has increased this year. So I think that makes it really hard for them to do one guy. Detroit I do think would have interests would be luke glendening. I'm just not sure that they're trading them. You know the one name I had heard in the past couple of days was Mike Green. Someone told me they thought that Washington might consider bringing him back. I heard Calgary but some other people kind of pooh-poohed that a bit I mean Calgary Needs D so it logically it makes sense but maybe nice from there but someone said to me the Washington might have some interest you know not allowed to make the power play. Pass anymore strong. Carlson's sets second power play although the first one plays a buck fifty seven. So here you go into. Let's scores seven seconds left in the power play. Edmonton oilers Does the cleft bomb injury complicate things for Ken Holland? It does because I think their their cap situation now with guys on or injured but not on L. T. I. R. It really affects their whole situation. I think it makes it very difficult. Ida couple teams. Tell me that Coleman was the one guy that they were going to do the first round or four and I think that was a smart try by Edmonton and I think. They pushed the price up like a like. Sometimes you're sitting there and you're saying Okay New Jersey's telling us when you do this and this like we're negotiating against ourselves. I don't think Tampa was doing that. I think they kind of had a good idea that edmunds and in Boston were kind of their Edmonton in particular. I think it's going to be hard for the oilers to do it. Because of their entire injuries situation I think they liked Pasho. I think they do like patch show but I just don't know if they're going to be able to pull it off. Do we say Jesse. Pull your name on Monday. In terms of what has been moved. They're not really thrilled about the idea of doing it. For a rental. I think they would consider doing it for something with term. I was just told to expect. It was unlikely they would do it. For a rental it was not their preference was what I was told even if that rental was Kaufman. And let's get there now the Florida Panthers. You see the panthers to me are kind of an interesting team. They want to remodel themselves. Almost on the fly. They've got pethick and Matheson playing forward. Which is fourth line? Bud The novel Cherry in there. Hey Hey filmed. The net. One of them was on the second line a couple of games ago. You know the thing is really interesting to me. Because his name has gotten out there and they think they'd be willing to do it if brought them back a study. The the question is what does bill. Guaranteeing Vincent Tro check. Because that's the kind of thing that Bill Barron's looking for now. Tro check hurt his ankle couple years ago and he came back he rushed back and there are guys who told me that you know. They think that that cost him a little bit with his foot speed and stuff but he's still a really talented player and sanders at that high level with two more years under five million. You don't get those kinds of guys so if Florida's serious that they'd be willing to do it I think it would you a defenseman. I think they would do it if you got them. An impact enough defensemen. I think Matheson's out there too. I know there are teams. Who Like Matheson? He's not crazy about the contract. So I I think Florida's got a live different pieces going in different directions. But they've got to think the way. Toronto's going gotTA think they can catch Toronto. They'd guy two games in hand in their two points backs. They're not going backwards. They're making themselves better. I always have thought that and it continues. Mike Hoffman is criminally underrated. When we talk about shots and releases and guys are able to score easy goals. No one ever talks about. Mike Hoffman. But they should and he's on an expiring contract again. I think he's been out there and I know there's been interesting him at times but they're not doing anything that makes them worse nothing. That makes them worse. They're going for the play offs. Okay Los Angeles kings well as worse. But they're getting better at the same time ads. We do this. They make the Alec Martinez Trae. The trade him to Vegas for two seconds. I think they play really hard. I think Rob Blake has done a really good job with what he's decided to do this year. Like the the one thing is it was such a rough year there last year. But you learn your lessons and I think Rob Blake learned a lesson. They tried to extend it last year. It didn't work so this year. They're like okay. Let everybody know from the beginning of the season. This is what we're GonNa do and this is what we want. So they traded to fully for a second and a and a good prospect kid with a chance They've traded Martinez for two picks. They've still got Trevor Lewis out there. Ben Hutton this got Ben Hutton out there and they're going to have an interesting one. Which is Jeff Carter? And they're not really looking for D. but they're looking for forwards and look they traded Campbell and Clifford up for a couple of picks and a local kid who needed a chance. So I like what they've done. I think they've committed. They said look. We're keeping our cornerstones COPA. Dr Doughty and that's it and we're GONNA move pieces around them and we're going to build ourselves up. They have a good prospect base. I it's great. I think they've done a really good job. I think they've made the smart play. So I put my notes this week that I think Philly's considering Jeff Carter and I think a lot of it depends on in sheree going back to Pittsburgh going to Philadelphia. Go home again week with Nolan Patrick's health I think determines a lot of that in someone called me today and they said there's definitely interesting Carter. The kings could increase their return if they're willing to retain the big question is what is Carter think last year. He made it very clear. He did not want to go anywhere. I'm not convinced he wants to go to Philly. It's too far. He's very comfortable in California. But like what if it was Aruna? I don't learn Jeff Waterford somebody around there. I don't always look at players at that stage of their career with term into a market. You know roots getting deep and I said to myself why would you WANNA leave? Why you've already had success everywhere at the NHL level at the international level. Your place in the game is cemented. Why look like when I was a single guy? I would go wherever I want. I agree now. You've got me everybody's different. It's up to him right like he like if it's a short trip from California. Does he want to do it. I can't answer that. I have to say that. I think it's a it would be a great story. Affiliate brought him back and said look. We're writing wrong and you can really help us. I don't think Philly's doing it for charity reasons. I think they're saying we think you could really help us. And Carter has been better since the trade deadline last year. Like I know that you know before last year like there were some people internally in that organization who were very upset them and when he didn't get traded. They think he's been a lot better. You're right it's his call and he's you know he's earned the right to make that decision and I don't think he's going anywhere unless somebody asks him. How do you feel about this where he talked about them? But just to put the ribbon on it tied the bow around it Minnesota. While he's got maybe the two biggest trade ships around Matt Donde and Yoenis protein one or both move could be zero. He could keep them both in wait until the summer. You want US brought in a long talk with someone about Bodine. Said that nobody knows who he is. But he's GonNa play fifteen twenty years and nobody may know we. He is when he's done. He's just a solid player. Who's never put up a ton of points? But he's really good defensively and he can play against anybody and I actually think the price on him might even be more than the price on Bumba. Why is contractors last and there aren't many guys who can do what he does anymore is not a point getter but he's a minutes eater and he does a lot of things that a. Lotta defensemen don't do anymore now. Defense is all offense all transition defense and he's good at it a now. We'll take a break when we come back we'll finish the rest of the NHL teams as our trade deadline preview continues on thirty one thoughts. The podcast it's texture for a while. Then we'll start recording again. We're back in the day and assumes ca saw this month or feature band is fade away as from Toronto. Before the break you heard get along from their debut album taste of life. Now you're hearing Kentucky and the sounds of Kentucky dovetail right to the Metro Canadians Elliott Friedman trying to think of the connection between Kentucky. The Montreal comedian adds a reach will be here for a while. Tv tonight the Kentucky wildcats basketball are. They liked the Montreal Canadians of hockey. It's a weak attempt. Okay Montreal White Flag Time. Yeah well you know the the fact that they dealt scandal probably tells you that although I I will tell you I I had some guys who said to me. They wouldn't be surprised. If scandal goes back to Montreal in the summer. Now here's the thing so I've heard rumors about Domi and I've had people say he's out there. I've had other people absolutely shoot it down to me. I think they're trying to extend Petri. He's eligible July First Tatar. I don't think they WANNA do it. But you look at the prices like do they say we gotta do it. I've had people tell me no on drew A. I don't know like I think he could do anything. I don't believe the price of Colorado stuff there's no way Colorado is adding that kind of term when McKinnon's op three years and Macara. They gotta pay in a year. Like I just don't see that and I don't necessarily see price going anywhere right now. Anyway I think he's a total wild card now one of the things about him being in Denver Again. I think he has family connections to Denver. Which are one of the reasons. They're get so maybe watching as a bonus I think he could do anything. Kovalchuk or nothing Kovalchuk. I would trade him and bring him back. I get the piece I'd say to him. If you WANNA come back come back here in the Summer National Predators Grantland Smith Have Been Exhibit A. Exhibit B. For a while. Now my question is what does David poile believe? Do you believe that you just have to get into the playoffs? The sake of your ticket base to your fan base or anything like that. Keep it going. This is a playoff team. WanNa keep that established elegant Nashville honesty. And I see a lot has been done by goaltending gremlins on the market. But he's been one of their best players since the coaching change. He's been really good. Smith has been on the market. He's hit up a bit lately. Tourists has been on the market. He's been up and down there looking for D. I think like we mentioned Sherry. Like I could see them going for Sherry biggest questions. What do you do at grand like now? Are you looking in saying we gotta keep them or I wonder if after the season if it doesn't get better we hear that they start seeing Hades as we see if there's a market for Johannes earned we see if there's a market for Duchenne I think when you make a move like they did with Peter Live Yolette? There's a lot of Peter laviola players on that team. Don't you know start looking for John Heinz players? I just think they're gonNA look at this year and say do we think this is one year off or do we have a problem here like I asked David poll a couple of weeks ago? Does he think he's got a complacency problem? Did one of those the breath pauses and said I really hope that's not the answer when it's over if they don't get in. I wonder if he suddenly thinks okay. That is the problem. New Jersey devils. Have Been Frisky Tom. Fitzgerald I think the biggest question is. What's going on with pulmonary? Do they move them? See I think with Coleman? I got the impression too that they not only they look at what they got for them. They looked at it and said you know he's a UFA in a year. What are we going to have to pay them? And I think they looked at it and said boy. That's going to be a big price and are we sure. The price is going to match the production. I think they felt. They were dealing him at his apex. Paul Mary to me is a bit of a different guy. He's got a bit more proven track record as a score. So what do they think the to me too? Is You gotTa have veterans for your guys to play with okay pause on that because Tom Fitzgerald was on hockey central on Monday and he talked about having men in the room. I'll say this guy is just a mand league. You can't just have kids you'll be happy to have meant and that's my job. Here is not to to burn this thing down the ground if they keep this group competitive by adding men to the lineup. That can help support these these pillars. I call for organization. That's exactly what you're talking about here. You just can't load up with kids. You need to have players in that room. Yes at show these guys not just how to play but how to be pros. That's why I say it's one thing to strip it all down. It's one thing to everything must go. Trade trade trade were in the futures market right now. You still need players. They're older players established players successful players. You can't just turn the whole thing over route that news. He sure and the kids a hundred percent and the other thing too is you gotta give your fans or reason to buy tickets right and that's one area that we've talked about a lot this year where they need to stop competent. I wrote about it and the blog couple of weeks ago when I met with their President Reynolds at all star and heat are really good. Answer for that but I agree. There's there's a limit you know. Green could come back next year. They always resign him to a one year deal. Zajac indicated that he's not going anywhere right now but you'll talk to them in the summer. Yeah you have to have men around if you're trading simmons and your trading pulmonary and your trading green and you may trade ZAJAC. Yes what are you doing around them? I think it's a a very legitimate question because not only that but you know you've got Hughes and you've got out there you know you gotta have someone who can score. And he's that guy but I'll tell you this what the what the colon moves said was I don't believe ratio wanted to trade coleman or pulmonary. I don't think he did but now teams are looking saying okay. Well maybe he didn't but the new guy might so we better make our offers and see where that takes us. Sami Vatanen I think so although he's been hurt islanders. You mentioned Andy Green other than that. It's been pretty quiet season. Well that's because he's not telling us anything but you know. We talked about life though Dougie. Hamilton Carolina Says Life. Without out pallet. Yes so he added the one D and I do think he's a non Kreider and my hunch is that he knows if he's going to get them out of New York. It's got to be a big deal but I had someone say to me. Do not underestimate his ability to maybe in involves someone else in this like this someone trade for Kreider and then go to the if the islanders actually pulled this off or to the Rangers. Just say to hell with it. It's our best like I would say it's our it's our best deal all trade 'em there. I think the odds are going to add. I think there it's the same news we talked about for Boston. It's Palmeri it's sawed. If he's available I think. I think they're going to look for a depth center along the Nate Thompson. Kind of thing You know I think he could do a couple of things. Rangers you mentioned the Goce Trade. We've talked this podcast. Plenty of Chris Kreider do we throw this Anderson into this mix? I don't know like I honestly don't know they you know. There was a lot of noise around Anderson and I think that everybody involved there from his representatives to the Rangers. Done the smart thing. They've taken his name out of the public eye. So I don't know the answer to that question Lundquist. I probably stays Georgiev. I bet stays. We've talked about this. We've got a lot of feedback on our role playing last week. I have to tell you more that we're good activists To me a lot of questions of the Rangers are what are they do with Kreider because if they extend them you know then they've got some other cap things they're going to have to deal with do they. Trade the Angelo. They trade butchnevich they just punt it all until the summer. I like the way they're playing time the other day. They play really hard for fun team to watch this and we all know how fun to watch. There's a lot of good reasons to watch The Rangers Ottawa. Senators jean-gabriel Paseo. Let's an Ottawa rate. Now has seven draft picks in the first three rounds of this And they're probably going to add. Come Monday this thing is being built once through the draft. You mentioned Vladan domestic off early on as well patio domestic off exhibit NBA and Ottawa. Well I think Pagil- someone told me boy scared about seeing this right now because the anything could change but I think early on. The market for him was soft. It wasn't as high as OUGHTA wanted. Now that's not to say that it won't change because he's a Sanur and it's hard to find centers these by the top center available. What ARE THEY WANNA? I WANNA I wanted to if not conditional first rounder. It wasn't as high as they'd like it to be I think Edmonton was. We mentioned earlier. They liked patio but I'm not sure they're going to be able to do it. Patio and I would do the same thing if I was in his shoes. I think he wants term and Ottawa is scared of turn. The other thing with Ottawa. Is some players will tell you that. Ottawa likes to back load. Their deals and some players are like when they make offers say we'll do most of the money later and some players take that to mean well. Maybe I won't be an Ottawa later. Yeah so there are a little afraid of that. I think it's more likely than not. He gets traded but I just heard early. They weren't getting what they want you know pneumatic of. I think they'll have no trouble getting mid round. Pick for him One thing to follow to. Ottawa is going to be stripped as much as they can. We know the pure durians in that business right now. I love watching. The boys love watching Brady could shock in two thousand eight two thousand nine. Dustin Brown recorded two hundred ninety two shots And two hundred eighty five hits or is this the dubber Hockey Stat. That somebody's yes. Did you see that? Yes Brady could shock on pace for three hundred shots and three hundred hits would be the first player in the history of the NHL to do so spa little things. The game within the game. Things the fall off your senators fan. You mentioned Jeff Carter and the Philadelphia flyers anyone else we should keep an eye on in the keystone state. And we'll get to Pittsburgh. I think that says to me is they'll look for center help. If it's available patio grant guys like that maybe patio. Yeah why not buy? That says to me if they're looking at Carter. They're looking at some center help. If they're they're like they've gotta be at least Legitim- legitimate reason to believe that Patrick might not be a factor this year so it says to me that they're considering their options Pittsburgh Penguins They made the move That's worked out greats. Yes so far your mother for done. I mentioned Sherry. I think they could add another D. as well. `specially with marina lawsuits. I think you'll as well I think he'll add. Well Dumoulin I think Solo I. I read an update from Sullivan before we did the podcast. Thursday. I don't know if playing Thursday but he's getting closer. I think they add for depth. I do Saint Louis Blues Defending Stanley Cup Champions. Doug arms well look I mean obviously the fact that they put Djabel Mr L. T. A. R. I mean the math just indicates he might not play again the rest of the regular season they went out and they got skin della by the way. I think the blues deserve a lot of credit for the way they've handled us first of all obviously the blues the dachshund unbelievable job in the moment of Bom Easter. We talked about that last week but I think the blues have done a really good job of making updates available and saying here's what's going on like when they played their first home game. They had an announcement. Here's the situation. Armstrong met with the media on Tuesday night after trade for scandal. I here's the situation. And he said it'll be seven to ten days before Any update on booster's future and I don't think anyone's going to be chasing that or so much as understanding that he'll make the call when you make the call about what's going to happen but I think where you can assume that he's probably not gonNA play. He's not GONNA at least the rest of the regular season and Saint Louis this year. I don't know what to make of it but I've had people tell me the day thoughts. Saint Louis was more in on Taylor Hall than people realized. Now I look at them and they're all about winning the Cup this year. They're not doing anything that makes team worse. They're going for the repeat so I think they're still I think they're looking at what's out there and saying is there a way we can make it work and they still are being cagey about the. Tarasenko return date which gives them flexibility truth. How much Saint Louis Do you watch? I watch quite a bit like watching them play. Same as me So in your estimate because I think the answer is really close but then I just might be biased. Because I've watched his kid play forever. How close is Robert Thomas to being the best player on that team? I don't know if I would say is the best player on the. How close is he to become all best player on that team? He's he's taken huge steps. This year I really feel I. He's a great player. And there's GonNa be a lot of teams kicking themselves for that draft that they didn't take him. Toronto took Timothy Lawyer. You just have to put the boots the lease while. They're at their lowest second but Timothy Logan was air. Maple circum over. Roberts wants the clicks on this podcast is playing for the London Knights. This is when hunter was still a member of the maple leafs anyway move on San Jose Sharks. This has been a brutal season and it's not over until the Friday of the NHL draft when Ottawa takes their pick. But this has been a disastrous year for the San Jose Sharks and you mentioned Joe Thornton earlier. What do you think I think that there are teams? Who want him? I could see Dallas liking him. I could see Boston liking them. I could see Toronto Aching. Go back there please because I always here for the best story nature for chaos. That will give me both. I could see Toronto Liking Thornton but the thing is like Doug. Wilson's made it clear that I thought I heard internally that it's got to be Joe Thornton call so they'll work on it together. Toronto's looking for depth. You know we did our two Wednesday night hockey Tuesday edition game the other night we talked about how Sheldon Keefe met for the bottom six in Toronto and I think it was about offense and just can't get caved in and they got caved in against Pittsburgh and I think after that game I I heard dubious was starting to look around again. Senators got a lot of those guys. They've got Sorenson. They've got Carlson. They've got good role That's melker Karlsson. By the way they've got Barclay good row you know they've got guys like that so those guys are all going to be available. I think so I. I think that's kind of where we are in del. Yes Erin de like for example. I could see Colorado. That's it yeah like doing that. I think Aaron Dell is a guy that could be available. I think he's going to have some options Tampa well. They made their one big move. I don't know if they're gonNA do anything else. That move gonNA make it trick year for them next summer. Circuits have to be paid to rally to be paid. Well the goaltender goes to nine and a half. You know that this next year this off seasons the big one right there by the one thing about Tampa is the advantage that they have someone was saying to me is that they draft so well in the middle they have been successful finding guys in the second third fourth fifth rounds and that is the difference between them and everybody else they can make those moves maybe he goes for a depth th-they Jeff but I think generally this is his team went to Vegas Washington Winnipeg. These are the teams that made the death defensemen moves. Those guys are all gone now. Toronto THE STORE Gustafsen. You WanNa late the late. The podcast. You WanNA get Clicks Tyson Barrie Toronto. It's like they were not competitive on Tuesday they lactic. You saw the difference to a team that works in a team that doesn't and they were embarrassed. And like I said I think dubious is looking for depth forwards. I think he might even be looking for D. But how much more can you give up like you know they can trade marchment for Morgan? Morgan's a guy who wants to play. They'll give him a chance to play. Got Some talent you know. We'll see but I think this is a bigger issue right now than Toronto. Like the heat's coming on the players. They wanted the coach gone. They got the coach gone now. The new coach sounds like the old coach and Malkin pulls out in warm up tonight. Because he's sick. They put a guy no one's ever heard of he gets his first. Nhl Goal and they storm all over lease because they work. Toronto needs Pittsburgh's Danny. And you know I always believe you bet on talent. Washington was a team people. Nobody ever thought they were GONNA win. They figured out now. The timelines are different in Toronto. Because those guys aren't signed for the same term the only way those guys are gonNA figure it out and it takes time is. Do you really believe you have to change. Based on the embarrassment you suffered on Tuesday night. If I'm kyle dubious I am not chasing until I know that they are not just Tuesday though. Well that's my point. Unday was brutal. Well it's my point. This comes out Thursday morning. We'll see what happens later on. Tonight's that's my point. I am not chasing for this year. If I'm kyle dubious they're not ready to leaves could be sellers on Monday. You've traded a first to deal marlow. Yeah you don't have a lot of your picks you you trade a couple of picks to get Campbell and Clifford. What do you think you could get for? Berry just trying to get back. I think that guy to it just didn't work for whatever reason it just didn't work the other thing now too. Is that with Johnson out. Can you really trade captain or perfect? It's more difficult you still can. If you get something with term you can do it but I would be saying I might deal Berry. Might just say you know what it hasn't worked and I bet you he would almost appreciate the chance to go somewhere to see if he can revive the end of the season Vancouver. Be An option for Tyson very. Let's get to the connects quickly as we talked a lot about them early on. We all thought of the draft going to the Vancouver canucks. Yes and I think he thought he. He told us he thought it was going to Vancouver. Canucks I think Calgary would have interest. I think there would be a lot of teams that would love to have. Tyson vary run their power player. Be Part of their team for the play offs. The guys talented in Vancouver. I think they're on Wayne Simmons. I wonder if they would dangle someone like you. Alavi for Simmons. You Know Jim. Benning See. Didn't want to trade anymore picks so. I wonder if you allow V. or someone like that would be part of it. You know maybe a guy getting you the new start somewhere else New Jersey's looking for D. But I think I think the canucks will add. I think they'll add another forward land stature. I could yeah. They're gonNA have the same qualifying offer issue stature that they had with Hutton last year so I could see them moving stature last year trade deadline. Vegas made the big move picking up Mark Stone this year so far Alec Martinez anything else. I think that's probably their move. Why wonder if they go after a goalie though just adapt goalie and whenever says that always Arundel? No and Sodas Pete the bore couple of years ago Washington did a nice bit of business. Picking up Michael Campany at the deadline and it helped him a lot. Help them win a Stanley Cup last year. The role of Michael Company was played by Nick Jensen this year. The role of Michael Company is played by Brendan Dylan. Yes anything else. We expect that a Washington. I've heard that Jackson might be available. It just hasn't worked there as much as they liked. Like you just added Dylan and your top four is going to be Carlson. Orlov campany and Dylan. I think Washington might have some interest in Green Jensen's what extended for four years at two and a half million. That's a big number. I just don't think it's worked there as much as everybody hoped so. I could see Jensen potentially being moved. Y'All Brian maclellan. He's got big brass ones. He's not afraid and when he comes out the other day after he trades for. Dylan's says I don't like the way our team's playing right now like he's not just saying that for the hell of it. He's saying that because he really means it. Finished Winnipeg whenever defenseman is available by way of trade or by way of Waivers. We all look at the. Winnipeg jets Dylan to mellow goes for third round draft pick. What about when a I think they could look for senator depth to not a big price unless it's with term but you know obviously littles out for the year? Cop? I think has played pretty. Well has by. I think they'd like to get some center depth but I. I don't think they're doing anything big unless it's for term all right that's it. That's thirty one teams anything else to add or you exhausted. Are You? Spent you have anything other than fumes for TV. Tonight's I'M ALL WE HAVE BOSTON. Edmonson better brings some. I got some. I'm always lousy on. Tv You know that. I mean your command is always at his best to say around these parts and on that. Wrap things up for the PODCAST. Now nobody make any trade. So this podcast understand. We don't want to disturb amil tonight. He likes his home time. He likes his downtime. While those downtime tonight is putting together this podcast he would like to get to sleep at a human our before two nights thinking. So as you're listening to this podcast a reminder again our interview with Rick Bowness head coach of the Dallas Stars comes out on Monday morning and we say goodbye with. 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Its Break Time, For Some Of Us

The Isles Faithful Podcast

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Its Break Time, For Some Of Us

"Daddy what are you doing. We're recording a podcast. He's listening. Islander fans are listening. Where are they the right here? Welcome to the Isles Vehicle podcast with your host Michael Shirley Line Alo- and welcome back to the Isles faithful podcast. It has been a minute you can say. I think I might have said that the last time we did this a little bit of a gap year between episodes as you know I had had a busy holiday like the rest of you was home with the kids. Did a bunch of stuff with them had a good time for Christmas. They all enjoyed everything. They're having some good times with families going back and forth and then in the middle of all that or after I should say started a new job so I I kinda trying to get caught up there and get get acclimated and it's it's been great Working with some fantastic new people a lot closer to home So just all settled in there now. So which is why we're we're here. I've said over the last couple of weeks that I've wanted get an episode out and I said I was going going to and then something else came up and regardless I'm here now that's what's important Today is January twenty six twenty twenty two new decade. Were into something new here. Something New and exciting twenty twenty. I am going to be forty this year. I can't believe it. That's just amazing. Anyway this is episode so number forty two and I am your host as always Michael Sherline. So would've what are we GONNA get ourselves into today if you follow me on twitter at Aisles Blogger Auger. I have been complaining nonstop about the same type things. I guess everybody else has really been complaining about Nazi. The aisles have been rather rather pedestrian as of late What I mean by that is since the amazing stretch of games that they had earlier in the season and The aisles were twenty seven in to the last time we spoke there now. Twenty nine fifteen and five so they still have a winning record. Haven't really played all that great. So it's a difference of nine eight and three. They're they're over five hundred which is good Nica break that down even further and say maybe they aren't five hundred over the last ten or so games. I'm not one hundred percent. Sure I did write five pages of notes here. But that's not one of the things. Of course I looked up. Unfortunately you don't I got all this paper right here. So what are we gonNA do over those twenty games. The owls have obviously been pretty pedestrian as we spoke about they've struggled in all areas Ali League against some lesser teams with lower standings in them lower in the in the standings And there's been some blowout losses Some legals against some power goals against late. I'm looking at you dark persad against your former team. No less which again could go either way. I didn't necessarily think it was a penalty I said said on twitter when guys head goes low and his feet go over his head. It's an embellishment in you know. We'll get into that in a little while as well So we got some non calls. That still continue here and we'll get into that as well. I Al- Zor currently third in the metro but just three points from not not being in a playoff spot at all Columbus one point back Carolina to in Philly three respectively. And this is going into the last game last week before the all-star break the gals are also now that the all-star break is over are going into their CBA mandated by week so we won't see another game here until February first day before super bowl which is next weekend so we have a bunch of days to sit in mill about in wonder what's going to happen on the other end of the spectrum. They are four points back of Pittsburgh who just can't seem to lose no matter. How many injuries they they have their seven back Boston in eight back of first place? Washington to the East is very tight. So if you do the quick math there there's only think eleven points between first and the last wildcard spot maybe a little more at parody for you. That's the new. NHL That's what they want. It is exciting. I love hockey. Okay I love this time of year. Granted him a little stress about a couple of different things. But you know the aisles did manage to bank all those points earlier in the year so they were riding on that it and we'll see what happens during the twenty games. The aisles have scored sixty goals in allowed sixty two so for the rest of this or for that season to this point. The goal differential is plus eleven. I don't know exactly where they were last year at this point I know it's probably a little worse because the goaltending while well it has been good. Defensively the aisles have struggled They've also struggled offensively as well so that. That number is a little tighter than maybe we have wanted edited and we saw last year so I tweeted during this stretch of poor play that the leading score is since Christmas had had five points each and that was bars Elson. It's improved a little bit and I'm GonNa go through some numbers here. Bear with me. I know it can be a little boring when I read stats. But it's it's pretty important for the whole picture So now I'm going back to the twenty seventh of December which is when I had tweeted that out On the fourteenth of January that you know the leading to scores Air Bars L. Nelson with five points so over this last A bunch of games Barzel has ten points. One goal and nine assists Nelson seven goals three assists Bailey. Eight points three goals. Five six Lee has seven points. Five goals two assists Bo. Villa has seven points. Three goals IOS four cysts broussard. Only has four cysts everyday who struggled with the combat from the injuries kind of turned it on a little bit. He has seven points. four-goal street assists. Now you got a bunch of defenseman here who are kind of outscoring most of the forwards which is kind of funny but Ryan polack has six points points. One goal five assists DEVANTE has five points one goal for cysts let has forced cysts. Zeke's has five goals Mayfield. Three three points one goal two assists boy Chuck Scott No points during that stretch. Calmer off you know. And he has played less games and some of the rest of the forwards here. Yes six points in in those games. One goal five assists. He's really looked very good. especially with clutter buck out Surprised he's playing his as well as he has. But I mean that's a veteran guy right. They're going to do whatever berry tells them. The do dow coal again played less games history assists Martin. He was out a little bit with injury. Scott three points one goal and two assists coup knuckle and now he has a bunch of less games played. He was injured there for awhile. He's come on pretty strong as as of late as well. Six points three goals three assists dopson three points. He's only played about eight games or so over the stretch here. He's scored toward his. NHL is first goal in the NHL. And he's got three points that one goal and two assists and Johnston. He's only played a bunch of games names as well but two points one goal cysts. So it's thirty eight goals thirty eight you know. And that's my math is right. It's it's hard to you know Kinda try to weed through all the different game notes and all the stats on the NFL website. But by my count. Thirty eight goals at just unacceptable You can't can't continue to win these one goal games and We're GONNA talk about exactly how they can remedy that here. Moving forward powerplays been pretty stagnant. The last first few games before the break here they did score a couple of power play goals which is good to see but they they keep deferring the puck back to the point Very little action down loan one in front the ones that they have been successful. They've moved the puck through the slot area and down low or even behind the net But they always seem that just defer back to the point and they let these point shots go that they're shooting right into blocked. Lanes shots are blocked causing turnovers. And how many times do do you hear Brendan and Bucci say that the puck goes high and door wide. I mean if you're a betting man you could probably venture to say that ninety nine percent of the shots they take they take any at all going to be blocked and that's just either trying too hard or you know being a little too slow on their decision making But I WANNA see that improve here when they come back from the break. We are a month from the trade deadline. Basically and we've been saying here this whole entire season so far you are that you know it's time to maybe address. Some of the needs of the team you had berry say at the end of last year he needed a a little more pop up front. If there was going to be anything in what had lou give him gave him every way to a new contract Nelson came back on a new. The contract Lee came back on a new contract and they swapped out PHILP four broussard. Who isn't what they wanted him to be? But not a terrible replacement. I guess you can kind of argue maybe not Arthur staple had a really good article here last week with awesome potential trade targets especially with the pellet being out with torn Achilles for the rest of the regular season. You could see him. Try to bolster the back end with That somebody with term. Who knows you know we have? Thomas is down in bridgeport. He's still injured. I believe so he would be one of the first call ups. I mean we did see our Ho- get called up and do the bridgeport shuffle without making any appearances in the NHL aside from his practice time with the team So we definitely need a first line wing. We need third line center and some of the names that Arthur brought up We're Ilya Kovalchuk Melker Karlsson. Trevor Lewis. Chris Kreider Kreider which is probably never going to happen. You're not going to see the rangers and the Islanders Hook up on a trade Connor Sheree from Buffalo Tyler. Ennis from the sends. Then you've got some other guys that are are F as like Andreas Athens see you from the wings. Kevin the blank from sharks Andy Green his name mentioned. Jj Patio which which that's a risk. He's playing first line. Minutes up there and auto honor struggling team. Would he come in to this Organization with this coaching staff and find the same success with more limited minutes on the third line. You never know. He's also in a contract year so it's curious to see what's going to happen there. I'm not saying he wouldn't help. He would definitely help tyler. Toffoli from the King's Craig Smith from the prides Brenden Dillon was his name was brought up there for another defenseman and then we go to the next page here. I got players with term like Kyle Palmer from New Jersey Andrei case from the Ducks Brandon. Saad from Chicago Alec Martinez from the Kings. I think that would be a really good fit Nick Bonino from the prides and Travis Ajax who Elliott Friedman in his thirty one thoughts last week supposedly XLII the islanders could be one of the teams that inquired about him and He declines to be traded at this time he wants to stick it out. New Jersey annoys. Close the Games played in that organization and to be honest with you. I don't really think he'd be a good fit on the island especially with his cap hit. He's more year left. So if anybody anybody is going to be brought into the team it would be a guy like Andreas ethnicities speedy player. He's doing decent on a really bad wings team as we saw a couple weeks ago or last week. I don't remember when exactly when the island is trounced them and put up a snowman So I mean remains to be seen. The reality of the situation is Lou. Lamoriello has not made a trade and over six hundred days. I know if you follow me and also Jeff Capellini on twitter. You'll you'll we'll see he constantly puts out the the amount of days that have transpired since the last time. Lose me to hockey trade and it's easy to say from this side you know now what needs to be done but you don't really know from the GM side if he's tried to do things if he's struggling to do things you know or or teams are just trying to get way too much out of the islanders in in order to help them improve. So I mean we don't really know that's part of the lore of the whole Lamour Carello way of hockey. You don't really know anything until it's going to happen. And you see some of the people who cover the sport Andrew Gross and Arthur staple and steep has said on his podcast that it's a little frustrating at times because they don't really get much to write about. Sometimes you know outside of the interviews with the players fire so it's it's kind of like a crazy thing there you know you genuinely feel though that the the lack of tinkering is hindering this team. You even even have a reluctance when they do bring up somebody who could potentially help from bridgeport. That player doesn't necessarily draw in. It's absolutely necessary. And if they do alike auto. He sees sheltered minutes and doesn't really get to play the type of game that he can play down at bridgeport. You know and it's it's one of those things I don't really understand. It's frustrating as a fan I know that I can tell you that. I'm sure you all feel the same way. So we'll see what happens here in the next month you know hopefully The at least get some sort of help beat veteran defenceman than somebody who could drean on bartels wing and make that line a little more dangerous. Get a little more goals eras pop as Berry says Back now to the powerplay our play is power. Play percentage is seventeen point seven percent good for fourteenth in the League. They have only had one hundred thirteen opportunities. Which we've spoken about at at length on twitter if you follow along That is dead last in the entire league. It is fourteen opportunities less than the next closest team in sixty st eight less than the team at the top of the list. which is the Vancouver canucks sixty eight less power play opportunities now? I I don't know if it's the style that the islanders play. It's a very defensive minded game which is why we see a lot of close. You know nail biters you venture to say but it's a little ridiculous you you've got a guy like Barzel and I know you can argue that. Sometimes he kinda maybe complained to the referees. A little too much TROTS has said to the media that you know that will come with age We have had players in the past. Like crosby is being ovechkin. Kinda complained to the wraps a little bit when earlier in their careers. It's been a thing that they had to get over as well so I guess it comes with the territory when a players is frustrated you mouth off to the rafts. You're not gonNA really get the respect that you would if you just bit your lip and you know did your thing I I know. Even as me is a non professional athlete. It could be a little frustrating when there will be a call. That's not made or you know you. You get a busted clip because they missed the high stick and you know you're like hey look. This is what happened. But you're better off sometimes just ignoring that and just going out there and continuing the play hard right now. The penalty kill little better. Eighty three point nine percent which is good for fourteenth in the League. They've been penalized one hundred and thirty seven times making them the third most disciplined team league. I know it's a little confusing when I say it like that. So they've taken over there at the top. I should say close to the top in the top five for the least amount of penalties They have six shorthanded goals for the season. Putting them in eighth spot for that category the hurricanes owned the top spot with nine right. So they're right up there with some of the best teams in the League. goaltending obviously been okay. But you can directly correlate that to the run support sports so to speak and the defensive play which they've struggled with as well Varlamov has had more playing time He's got a three five record. I believe minus splits the last eight Games Games allowing twenty seven goals is season goals against average is two fifty nine and a save percentage of point nine one five. That's right around. Found his career numbers or the expected career numbers for him so again. I've seen some folks on message boards words on Reddit on twitter. You know really. Compare him and Leonard and Leonard is playing on a less defensively sensitively sound team. I guess you can say a Chicago has had their struggles. This season for sure But still relatively close if you look up the numbers exactly exactly and I don't have them in front of me again. I probably should've I saw somebody tweeted the other day or maybe it was on H. F. Boards. I can't remember but they were very similar. To wear lender was last last year around this time you know he had a good November then he really struggled Kinda turned it on later in the year so hopefully the islanders can do the same thing behind Varlamov the second half of this season down the stretch. You know they you could say maybe. The whole entire team peaked. A little bit too early but again like I said the bank those points which is important because 'cause if they were really struggling like they have been right now without those bank points they might not be in the position that they're in which is third in the Metro. Grace been a little. Oh better obviously they. They rode Varlamov a little more over the stretch but crisis three and two in his last couple of starts allowing eleven goals bringing his season goals against the two forty-three in save percentage of nine twenty five which as you can expect de Grace as much as he struggled there for a little while still very very very very good numbers out of him defensively like we keep saying they've been less than perfect? It shows two things how valuable belic has been to this team and how how much they miss him. Being out with a season ending injury which I have to ad was from warm ups with their stupid to touch thing. Now I know teams do this throughout the League. They do it another sports. They play kind of games to warm up. They're both mentally and in other ways before the game but to be injured. I'd like that and I believe as Levski might've been hurt last season. The same thing with Tampa entirely sure. I think I read that you know. How can you do that? I get it. It's it's like a team building thing and whatnot but to lose a player like that for the season season based on a warm up. That's not hockey related. I just it's it can't happen. I mean it's unfortunate but I feel like it just can't can't happen or shouldn't happen so barry transit system just relies so heavily on these defensive games these one-goal ongole games. We've set a couple of times that we feel like they are built for playoff hockey. And and maybe they are maybe just the grind of like the full eighty two game season is a lot. It's a lot of any team. Look at Tampa Tampa destroyed. Everybody win the presidents trophy got swept in the first round by Columbus. Did anybody expect that no I didn't I still am look. I look at Tampa and they are such a dynamic team in there so balanced in their scoring and their defense. They struggled with injuries as a little bit this season to their turning it up I believe they just one ten in a row and they're gonNA roll into the playoffs the team. Everybody expected them to be so the islanders. The had a great beginning they can have a mediocre middle if they finished strong in a playoff position depending on who they match up against I could see them finding success assess in the first round again when it all hinges upon what Luma Lamb. Who does or doesn't do here as we approach the trade deadline closing things out? Obviously we just had the All Star game and festivities Matthew Barzel benched right before the All Star game in the third period. Arrange game for a over He said he understood why when he was interviewed. During the All Star Media Day Trots on the other hand when pressed for information by the local media. Here didn't really WANNA talk about. It said it was between him and Brazelle you know and then ultimately came out and said it was because of some individual plays by certain players players and and we know who they are you know you had to preside penalty which he wasn't happy about I believe Mayfield had that spearing penalty Against the Rangers as well Oh which another questionable call get it was four minutes and he spear is going to be four minutes. But why wouldn't you take them you for two for embellishing I I mean. He waved the stick Adam and the guy fell down. He was shot. So I don't get it Barzel won the fastest skater. Beat Connor mcdavid. WHO's won the last couple seasons Amazing It was good to see them all embracing and you know some of the drama that transpired fired with Kreider and declare Kinda jumping up and down on him and and being excited. I know a couple of people had said. Hey some some potential former teammates here in the future. So it's always fun to see stuff like that I didn't get to see much of the All Star game. I saw the first half of the Metro game yesterday. So I saw Kozelsk two assists I had a hockey game myself last night so I missed out on the rest. Obviously didn't really seem like I missed a whole heck of a lot because the Atlantic kind of steamrolled them the second period or second half now the aisles. As we've spoken about now are off. For the next five days for their CBA mandated break. They will not play again until February first against connects at home and have a pretty busy month rest of February with fourteen games in twenty eight days. So that's going to be a tough one here getting back. As approached deadline it will give players like clutter buck a chance to heal a little bit more paddock. Chance to heal a little bit more. Even though I don't expect to see him up until maybe if anything less couple weeks of the season if not in the playoffs like as speculated It's a good time to reset like I said good time for the players to relax kick back on the beach You instagram people out. There always seem to find all these amazing pictures of Suzuki's by the pool and like Hawaiian shorts there with a couple of drinks in his hand for his wife and their friends and stuff. So I mean I mean they're out there. They're having a good time relaxing recharging. The batteries soaking up some sun and Hopefully we'll see them as energized team. Here we're moving into the second half of the twenty twenty season all right so now that we pretty much got through all the notes that I have I opened did up to some questions on twitter and to some of the other people. That I talk about Islander's hockey too and one of my local buddies over here. Tim Tim thanks for responding had One question and it was regarding something had mentioned earlier in the episode About what Elliott Friedman had said about Travis Vizier Jack and he said Elliott Freeman said. There was a deal for Jack on the table that require him to waive his no trade. Elliott was pretty sure it was the aisles. How do you feel ZAJAC? It fits into the trot system. He thinks he'd be close. Fit or close to a perfect fit for the middle six now as I had headset previously. I think he's a little too old. For what the Islands WanNa do He's a great player in his own. Right I I know he is close nice to one thousand Career Games all with the devils and appreciate he wants to remain a devil which is why he allegedly said that he wasn't willing to waive to go anywhere Even for his former GM in in Lula morale and the islanders so Would he fit. You know there's always a potential to fit. Ah I know. He's more of a defensive player. Would definitely help round out that middle six for sure You know if the devils were to who maybe eat a little bit of his cap. Space there You know depending on what they would have to give up. I I would be more comfortable going with more of a a younger player player or somebody who is more of a true rental in this situation. he also asks if Sarokin Stays Connecticut Shell if there is a plan B Everything that I've seen personally You know even last last week you know. I tweeted at an article from one of the people who covers the K. h. l.. It seems as if you know Sarokin is poised to come to the islanders next six season you know. He's got his His really good buddy on his crosstown rival team here doing well with the Rangers so I think it would be another little extra incentive. I I wrote to come over and play in the best league in the world over here with his New York Islanders. So that's another great question and something. We'll be watching and I'm sure talking talking about here as we move forward Moving onto some twitter questions We have some good ones Sean Connors who is the guy who creates all these amazing hand-drawn pictures he sees got the MSG commercial. I had him on last season. I know him and I are trying to make some time here to sit down and talk some hockey. So we'll we'll definitely have him on over the next couple weeks but he brings up and he wants to know what's my take on the breadth Gallus oil about bars. L. Possibly being traded to the expansion Seattle Franchise I had bread on last season. I I know a lot of you in twitter. Verse do not like when he writes about the islanders qazis predominantly in New York Ranger beat writer or at least call missed and I think that's just a bunch of Malarkey. You've got a guy in Brazil for the islanders that is for all intents and purposes the face of the franchise the star. That's why the League you know gets him into the All Star game for the second season in a row here this this weekend that were currently in. I don't see him going anywhere. He's a restricted free agent Both sides are reportedly not worried about contract extension just yet it. It will be handled pulled in due time. I don't know of. It'll be a short term bridge dealer. Not I could see them. Maybe doing that or at least Barzel side conceding to to that if it gives the islanders roster flexibility to add around him and build around him do I see them trading his rights or allowing them to to take him in the expansion draft. No absolutely not you see lesser players. You know exposed like that or move like like that you know maybe a defenseman or somebody that they have down in bridgeport or or even on the NHL Roster but Matthew Barzel is not going anywhere absolutely not. He'll be locked up at minimum for eight years here or maybe even six to give him a couple more years of a restricted free agency. Who knows you saw Mitch Monir and a couple all of the other guys up there in Toronto signed for eleven million dollars a season? So that's the bar that's what's GonNa Happen here with bars l.. He wants to play on the island. You you know. And the islanders own his rights one way or the other is going to be restricted. Like I just said so I I don't I don't believe this. We've not seen it. There speculation there because he played played For the Winter Hawks I believe right so he's from Vancouver if if anything would make more sense for him to play for the conducts over Seattle. It'll just because he played there in junior. Okay it's close ish to Vancouver but if he's going to play for anybody would be Vancouver and you don't see that it's it's just is kind of stupid that we're GonNa talk about something like this because of what happened with ours. I I don't buy it for a second. So that's that Thomas Boyle Boil writes If Lou decides to make a trade who's a good player with term that could be a good fit. Now I touched upon this briefly before I really think if they're we're GONNA trade for anybody it would potentially be address ethnic from the wings Seems to be the type of player that would fit well right along Barzel. He's a speedy player He is definitely offensively gifted granted. He's struggling on that struggling wings team but I believe he is a restricted free agent with With one year left. If I'm not mistaken we could. We could look that up here in a minute So yeah someone like him Some of the players that staple had said you know maybe a two-fold even though he's a little older You got some of the sharks is players that I had spoken about earlier in the episode as well Like Dylan may be perhaps So so someone like that You know generally players with term go. It's going to be a hockey trade where you didn't see it coming. You know like the ever lay for strom deal a couple of seasons ago. Something that is kind of out of left field. Oh you know those are usually the deals. Nobody's really expecting And last season you know. Beauvilliers was rumored to be offered in a couple of trades. It didn't work out there so so I mean you might see something like that. You might lose a player you like from the current roster But sometimes in the grand scheme of things the larger picture is you gotta give you have to get we all know that and The potential to have something like that happen is Israel for sure who else we got. We Got Ryan Maroni who also always sends in some good questions. What's the actual possibility that Lou get something done? That floor is all of us. There's not a lot out there and I'm not sure we have anything. Other teams teams. Want you know except for the guys we WANNA keep nats one hundred percent true and I just touched upon that briefly. You've got guys in the organization. Like Devan Taves Ryan Pool luck You know to a lesser extent. Auto Odi Wild Then you've got some of the other offensive guys down in Bridgeport as well aqua- woah Wallstrom bellows. So if you're going to get value back the potential like I just said for the previous guy who wrote in Thomas Boyle ee. Never know what's going to happen until does that's one of the crazy things about this especially one of the weird quirks about the way Lula Morello. GM's teams right. It's either going to be big or it's going to be a little ancillary deal. That will help them along. Allah Garth Snow that we've so ooh lovingly had to deal with over the last decade I just mentioned I think that the trade that would probably eight floors the most most would be like I just said for ethnicity of from the wings. I think it makes the most sense. Some of the people. I've spoken to here over the last couple of weeks also so agree and that spans outside of the New York Islanders. You know some of my ranger fan buddies some Philly guys and New Jersey. Guys all seem to agree that that makes the most cents for the New York Islanders. All signs are pointing to some sort of trade here occurring Andrew Grosse End Arthur staple both Lean towards something something happening than not you know especially with our over six hundred days without a trade so I guess we'll have to revisit this again. If something comes comes to fruition. Now it's funny. I have a lot of family. You guys know a lot of the Maryland fans in I kind of reached out to some of my cousins here who were in a group chat with just some questions as well in the my cousin Shawn Shawn Sherwin go figure Will Dobson seen expanded role in the second half. What if any moves? The owls make prior to the deadline. So Sean you're going to have to rewind the episode a little bit here and at this point you probably already heard them so but Dobson I I thank you can see Kind of what we've seen out of him he'll he'll rotate in and out Well I mean he's not even really rotating in and out right now with pelvic out so he's he's ex- he's seeing a role. I don't know what is minutes are here Game by game but it seems like he's getting thrown out there in in different situations. I believe he was out there on some penalty. Kill you know the other night and You know ease chipping in offensively when he can he speedskating pox so much better and getting out of trouble. And you know you're seeing the type of creativity. He has on the back end with the way he skates. The puck into zone zone. Entries has been really good so as long as he continues to play Trots is system and do all the things that are asked of him. I I can see them for sure. I definitely letting him Kinda go with with everything here. If you if you struggles a little bit you know he might find himself in the press box you might see a Ho or somebody else Called the eventually maybe Hickey. If he ever determined or ever determines if he ever gets healthy here you know. It's been a shame what happened to him this year. So dopson is has been in good like like I keep saying though in You know still work in progress with a young defense when they take a little longer to marinate than some of the other guys is do. So that's GonNa about wrap it up for episode forty two of the owls faithful podcast Thanks for listening in dealing with the crazy. Break here that I I did want to taking as always you can listen to us on many streaming APPS and sites Like Apple Apple. Google spotify tune-in ANDROID stitcher Pandora and finally iheartradio believe it or not. We're finally finally approved over there so head over to iheartradio and search for the is faithful to listen there. 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Trade Deadline Recap

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Trade Deadline Recap

"Hey Emily Greg so. The center of the United States Hockey Universe is edina Minnesota according to our in-depth tear like coverage this week as we ranked different hockey hotbeds crunched. The numbers got it down to Minnesota being the center of the US hockey universe and Edina Minnesota being the center the center of the US Hockey Universe thus opening up to the world the raging debate that occurs in Minnesota each day about how Diana is a bunch of quote. Rich cake eaters and They don't deserve this accolade because it will just make them more egotistic. This is what I've discovered this week in doing. This project was going to ask you. If you're a more surprised that a diner came up number one on your list or that it was pronounced the Dinah Not Edina I thought it was Dina forever. I think I've actually met women named Edina that it was spelled that way a very old women by the way DNA not necessarily in the Zeitgeist. It's not you know if you find a lot more Madison's in middle school today than you a Dina's come back. Yeah we should bring it back. Yeah I was. I was surprised with that and also Unsurprised that one of the wealthier communities in Minnesota may also be one of the most active in the sport of hockey. It's still a very expensive sport. Play ball say this the education that I got in doing this project I give full marks to places like Nashville and Anaheim. That made our list Vegas. That made our list for like the growing hotbeds. Didn't have room to put Tampa on there. But they deserve shout and The top five like centers of the hockey universe are only five so we left out Places like Pittsburgh That is certainly established Dallas is verging hop at the point of the thing and the point of this whole week of hockey in America coverage that we're doing on ESPN and if you haven't seen do check it on ESPN DOT COM sports. Really strong in the states right now man like they're only five. Us markets According to the numbers provided by USA hockey where the park the total participation numbers youth plus adult plus officials plus rafts has dropped in the last three years everywhere else. It's it's it's above average and it's it's surging and a lot of places so it was kind of heartening to see how much sports grown. Yeah my big takeaway. Was We hear that girls hockey one of the fastest sport growing sports in America but to see a lot of the places where even if it hasn't grown overall the women's hockey programs are booming and they're multiplying like crazy and that is huge growth. Though that's exciting for me in the future absolutely. Yeah it's it's all good stuff. It's all good news well except for you know Buffalo Detroit but that probably has more to do with the fortunes of their NHL teams than it does anything else. As far as the community goes. There is a certain correlation between success on the Ice and success around the community when it comes to hockey just ask Washington about that and also Washington's and other good example of not only do you have to have an exciting product that brings more fans to the game. But it'd be helping the community if you built a few more rinks the minute that the capitals put a ring on top of a parking garage at a mall in Arlington Virginia. About fifteen years ago was the woman went. Hockey started to really explode in that region. You had a new place to play and so you look around at Anaheim you look around at Nashville. You look around it at Vegas. Look at Seattle Ray sheets of ICE. Yeah and the having a place to play is important as having the desire to play what was your takeaway from that Seattle piece. Yeah you know I knew for some time that it was a bustling scene. You know we knew that the interest was there from how quickly they drew up. Season TICKET INTEREST But there just hasn't been enough ice. Usa Hockey says there's at least five come from sheets of ice coming in the next couple of years and they could rise at six or seven and that would be huge And Yeah just Seattle. You know the way they're doing things is a little bit differently and you know we know so. Many different franchises or tackling hockey is for everyone but they really are making charter. Diversity and accessibility are in the forefront of everything they do so that to me is pretty neat. Sounds like hockey in. Seattle is really cracking these days crack crack and get it. 'cause kraken standardized. Is this week something different? No guests well kind of guests several guests you listeners. We ask you to hit. Some trade deadline worries concerns proposals. What have you ruin a play a few those calls in the show today a special? Nhl Trade deadline pre edition post addition. Of course will be done with me and I'm leaving we're in Bristol on. Espn is plus all your favorite still headlines and like all that and more on this edition of ESPN and Islip show proper. Shelly is to your ear buds. A podcast about hockey featuring things to do with hockey from your friends at ESPN ESPN on ice with Shitski. And Kaplan yes it's ESPN and is there. It is the podcast. Espn talks about hockey attempts. To talk about hockey. I'm Greg Rishon Skiing here. Nhl Writer Mentally Cavalier National Reporter. And I'm really excited for today's episode Greg Because Ryan Matlock are tireless producer. Has Been Calling these calls. And he's as a bunch of you called in and we have no idea what you said. So we're going into this totally cold so I feel like we just gotTa Start Flying Blind. Exactly we did one call in show in both of us were in Bristol once it was glorious I'd say seventy five percent of the calls weren't our friends which was good sixty six thirty right. Shut up Mario Lemieux but this time yeah we put it out there on the on the twitter and thank you for participating in our reindeer games. hopefully one day we could do a full on live show again because that was a lot of fun but anyways for the Trade Deadline Ladies and gentlemen let's begin with our first caller. Hi Emily Greg long time listener first-time caller Followed up on those trade than like questions. So my question is I am a New York Rangers Span watching a lot of folks in my phantom try and rationalize potential Chris Kreider trade and then resigned in the off season. Type deal which I feel like. It's probably not gonNA happen for a lot of reasons so my question is just. How realistic is it to think that it's Any team would trade or to think that a team would trade for any player and then resign them in the off season or is this just another fantasy. That sad hockey fans like to indulgent feel better about their team being bad Can't wait to hear your response. Thanks plea right. It's definitely aspirational to want to have your cake in Edina Minnesota and eat it too an Edina Minnesota and that's what the Rangers would be asking for if traded Chris Kreider and let's be honest. He's been the number one guy in everybody's list when we see some of the prices that we've seen in these traits so far we know he can command command more just a first round peg probably a first round pick and a top prospect first round pick and a second round pick third round pick. You know there are some situations where I'd say. I'm not sure that's going to work. And if he leaves he's out the door he's not coming back one of those examples. I think of as Robin Lehner in Chicago He wants to stay in Chicago and I feel like if Chicago gets rid of him at the deadline that kind of opens it up for him like hey this summer to see who treats me the best. Who's going to give you the most term who's GonNa Valley most of the number one goaltender Chris Kreider on the other hand? I'm not quite sure where he's thinking is I know. He's really comfortable in the New York area. He trains in Connecticut and his off season. He's been in New York Ranger for a long period of time. You know his agent is currently negotiating with the Rangers and depending on how those talks go. Maybe this is something that they opened up like. Hey it doesn't work out with this deal. Let's see where it goes and we'll leave it open but it's never a guarantee. Yeah and I think the prevailing wisdom around the league right now is that there is an opportunity that he's going to stay whether it's like. Emily said through returning to the team afterward. Or what have you because the more you look at where the Rangers are in their as a contender and the more you look at what the Rangers have as far as the youth in th in the organization. The more you think to yourself five more years of Chris. Kreider is pretty much what this team could use Chris. Kreider is don't grow on trees the ability to do what he does on the ice that power forward game that he brings going to the net scoring thirty goals. That whole thing like that's a an attribute that a young team could certainly use and it's not like Kreider not going to be in his prime for the next few years so it really comes down to I think. Contract length is the issue. I don't think the Rangers want to give him eight years and I don't think they necessarily want to give them seven years. I think they prefer to give them five years. But Chris Kreider. You're like wait for this opportunity all my life. I'm going to get as many years as I can. And more power to them. It's his right to do so. It just might not necessarily be in New York. That's the issue but for the Rangers are as a team and quite frankly as a devil's fan. I'm a little jealous. I think that's Chris. Kreider is something that they should actually hang onto even though as we've seen in this market already emily. The Price Tag on Chris. Kreider would be substantial at this deadline. It shirt wide. And you know the last thing I'll say is there's two contenders at a three contenders that I really thought were on him. The Blues the Bruins and the avalanche the blues. They think are out now. The reports are getting from Vlad. Tarasenko make it seem like he's going to come back at the end of the season and I think just replacing boom user trade. The ads are desperate right now. They've got a lot of injuries and I could see them really upping the price to get them. And then there's the bruins Richard as of a wild card. We never really know what us when he's going to do exactly. And if we know anything about the Bruins Kinda like this. The capitals are constantly adding defensemen at the trade deadline and the Bruins are constantly adding forwards at the trade deadline. Let let that be known. That's just sort of go all right who we got next Ryan. Hello Greg and emily. It's your favorite west host. Ducks Fan made his own homemade chili last year. Just because I can't watch duct talk to you anymore and we remember you. Why do people look at the duck this year and the sleeper teen deadline? Do you really think that Bob Murray would actually move Andrei Tasha or Josh Manson. And if he did what is the return? Look like for those guys. Let me know what she thinks. Is that a hockey move. That futures move. Is there any reason that need to be a Dustpan or should I abandon everything that I believe in? I look forward to hearing what you're saying. I look forward to eating. Were my own homemade early. I have time to make it and I look forward to hearing this on the PODCASTS. By by I find it interesting. That Josh Manson for whatever reason is the guy that people WanNa send seal team six into rescue from the ducks twenty eighth. He's got a modified. No trade makes four point one million dollars a season through two thousand twenty two and his value is at basement bargain levels right now because he's not had a good season. It's a weird team. There's things that if you were looking to kind of vulture. Pick away from the carcass. There are a number of guys that you might be interested in. But I don't know how many of them are actually going to move other than a little little pieces here and there off this roster. Of course the other two are kind of Fascinating Ryan. Miller ever wanted to leave the Orange County as a deadline. Could help somebody. And then you know the Minute Ryan guests love says all right ready to Chase Cup again somewhere else. Then I think people would definitely be in the Ryan gets off business for sure. But we haven't heard any peeps on either of those fronts. So I'd be shocked if either of those happen and it's another name I'd keep an eye on derrick grant he's you know veteran's minimum seven hundred thousand dollars. He's an expiring contract. He's a you know he's a guy that I could see some team throwing a fourth round pick for so he might be a guy that I see ends at the deadline and helps on the way ducts. Don't necessarily have the pool that the La Kings have as far as prospects the much renowned prospect. They had gotten. It's gotten deeper. Thanks Foley trade with WHO GETS YOU IN A bit but eighth overall in the Chris. Peters pipeline rankings earlier this season Trevor Zegers. A great a prospect for them So the the future is brighter than than it is for most decent decent recently bright and it should be while you're in California and especially in so cal not so much here in the bay area where depending on where you drive. In twenty minutes you can go from being a ninety degree to a sixty degree day in the middle of a fog bank metaphor for the shark season. But right right WHO's next. Hey Emily Greg this is Pete Linski calling from Lansing Michigan. It might not be the most popular opinion. But I think it's time for the Red Wings to trade away tyler choosy. What do you think? Wow that's popular indeed. I mean I I would feel that sort of part of the solution TYPE DEAL LOOK SOBER. Tuesay is an RFA. This summary makes one point four million. The thing about Steve is Roman. That's fascinating is that he is someone who is taking over a team that clearly is team does rebuilding in transition but has shown in the past in his time with Tampa Bay lightning that he's not afraid to flip a good young player. Four other kinds of help. I mean the one of the most important trades that he made during his tenure Tampa was the Corey conquer for Ben Bishop Trade. Where conquer was having a potential calder trophy season with lightning and then he traded him for this guy. Ben Bishop with the time was not beneficial and ended up being one of the bigger trades that they made so he's he's shown bolt in moving younger pieces and obviously when it comes to the younger pieces on the Red Wings. They're not anybody. He had a hand really in drafting. So the idea that a Mantha or opportunity could be moved isn't out of the question but I mean twenty-four-year-old putting up forty points in plan the kind of style that plays you figure. That'd be the kind of thing you want to keep around. Yeah when I look at this roster I think there's three untouchables in my opinion. Dome Larkin obviously not going anywhere Anthony Mantha. I don't think should go anywhere. Tuesday would be my number three. What was that Mike? Green Green is not going anywhere because nobody wants to even buy them. Look when I look at for Tuesday and I think when I went to Detroit redwings training camp in September and news late September early October and they were playing this aggressive. I'd never seen a training camp with that much energy in physicality and they were really getting after it and this was. Steve is Herman and the players really trying to set the tone of what type of team they want to have in the future tyler. Brucie's play fits exactly into that identity. He's a high energy player. He's got great he also has hands. I don't think this is the type of player. They're trying to turn around that said because he is under team control and is twenty four. If someone wants to throw the book I think he is all open to any ideas right now because he knows his teammates an injection of talent. And he's been very careful about not assigning a timeline of when they could be competitive again because he does. It can be a very long time. Yeah yeah the Red Wings are an interesting team and I think they're more interesting in the summer when they're gonNA start clearing away salary through Tana cap space this summer and they also have a ton of artifice might wonder you wonder how many of those guys like in that situation is you might clear out and then you know the recruitment process is going to be very interesting. Reisman too like they. They're gonNA go young or they're going to be talented but I also think that they could be a team that could be in the market dabbling for an offer sheet at some point if he wanted to dabble in this dark. Dark Arts. Yeah we'll see about that although the listen as I was looking through the list for this summer and put it this way emily. We had a lot more fun last year than we are the summer. The one thing that redwings do you have some decent draft capital of all their first round picks next couple of years to second rounders this year to third rounders this year. So they do have some stuff to play with indeed All Right Ryan. Who's next hey guys Chicago BLACKHAWKS FAN here. I would carry us to what you think. Diglas glass talks should do at the trade deadline especially involving goalies given They're using about eleven million and go for gold and cap space and for Robin Lane. It's GonNa want seven million the summer at least and he's still gotta say Corey Crawford as well so I was running if you've got stuff that they should make moves with goalie guidelines. If if anything else those thanks all right well I the one thing that I'm pretty confident they should do. And we'll do is move Marcus Thompson. they should have moved this summer. When is the value was higher and they had a defensive lodge anyway but Seeing the prices these defense getting. That's the guy they should unload. As it pertains to the goalies. They have a really big decision to make the summer. Do you WanNa go with Robin Lehner. Who is younger and arguably more talented than Corey Crawford right now or do you stick with the devil. You know and Corey Crawford and stay loyal to him my inclination that they want to go to rob Atlanta. It's just an issue of Term Robin. Lehner feels like he's proven himself and he deserves that long term contract. Are they really comfortable doing that? I know this is not answering any of your questions of what they should be right. Now you know. I mentioned earlier to the Rangers Fan. But I do think that it's one of those things of keeping Robin Lehner in the door. Keeping him under your site and then keeping those negotiations going they can be the first in line to sign him in the summer. And there's something to be said there if a team like let's say Carolina wants to throw a first round pick pick at a top prospect Stan. Bowman should listen and and you know. He knows that he is decent contingency plans on goalies. But I don't see them moving quick Crawford just because of the way this organization does things. They're very loyal. Corey Crawford has no movement clause. He would have to sign off on the trade and I don't get the sense. He wants to go anywhere. My best guess is that they'd keep both guys but then again Stan Bowman surprises all by signing Lesnar. Like the last couple minutes of you know the first day of free agency over the summer so I wouldn't be shocked if he's you know last minute of the trade deadline deal for him to go to a team like Carolina Colorado in division that would be really crazy trade. It would be. But I don't know this is this is complete projection right. But don't you think? Designer might production. Greg this complete projection. This is this is this is. This is almost gas lighting. Lehner is the kind of guy who if Stan Bowman said to him and said look. I'm going to move you to Carolina because they're going to give me a first round pick for you my team. My team needs all the first round picks can get. Fly Away a little Birdie but come back to Chicago and I'll do you right A. D. Right with a two year deal or something. This lehner seemed like the type. That'd be okay with that because I feel like he is. I don't know maybe there but I just don't know I just feel you know like he got completely screwed by the islanders. Stan comes riding in being like even though he stayed loyal to them with that NECK TATTOO. He will know what is that. Maybe he's not that guy next to a that's a bad tattoo like we haven't talked enough about how that's a horrible to Long Island. We we both know the Long Island pretty well. That's not Yeah Jersey. Looks like a Beautiful Little Little Bean and Yeah Illinois the same way and New York is very identifiable highland just looks like a child drew it. Weird Tat. I am not one to judge the tattoos. I have tattoos. I'm sure people judge mind. Artists objective artisan behind beholder and he believes Long Island. Looks beautiful on its neck and reminds going to say like I. I don't first of all no one's tattoos and secondly you don't have long island on your neck so I don't what's the best save of probably Texas right like that's a really? Yeah I've seen a lot of California tattoos. That's pretty good to agreements from New Jersey on our foot New Jersey. I've thought about getting New Jersey Tattoo like because I've thought about actually going with like devil's horns on at some point but that was very very brand Greg. It'd Be Very Jersey. I'll tell you this right now like if you run them if you're you're if you're from Colorado how much would it sucked to get like a tattoo because people would just look at it and be like what is that? Why owning like all those states around that area look the same don't they? They do lead symmetrical. It's very true it is a rectangle or close to being square in some cases. Right right. Who'S NEXT? Hey Emily and Greg My name's Don I'm from Canada and I have a trade deadline question. What's the deal with all these insiders like all these teams or it doesn't intense time at the trade deadline? They're trying to make moves. They're trying to talk to other thirty other. Gm's and they've got Elliot's Friedman or danger taxing them constantly and they're all answering him like. Why did they bother answering it? It doesn't make any sense. They just text each other directly entitled the Middleman. I I've always wondered that you see them on the Trade Center shows and they're Nice. They're typing away on their phone and they always all this information. I don't understand what the teams are getting. That's it thanks so much. Have a great show. Well all right I got the answer for you. Who's it's an information currency exchange? I always remember if there's somebody talking. There's a reason they're talking and there's a reason they're talking to you and usually everyone has an agenda and you always have to keep better the back of your mind so usually when you see information leak. It's because the leaker has an agenda and maybe it's because they wanNA trade. That player may because they want to drive up the value Maybe it's for misdirection. Whatever it may be is usually agenda attached indeed and also the insiders need to gather as much information as they can because they literally have to be on the air for seventeen hours on trade deadline day and going to be too trades because they all happened already. Yeah get ready for the Derek Grant. Derby we got next question about the maple leafs If your call do this Do you try to maybe sell Tyson. Barrie at the deadline Give us a USA after the season and he doesn't seem to be able to handle the pressure of playing in Toronto Or is that a a ludicrous idea for team. That's competing to get into the playoffs and might not do so this year and then just in general Do you think that there would be wise for him to stand pat at the deadline or try to go out and get big name? Essentially and Given that Morgan Riley might be out until the second or third round growns X. Caveat was awesome. I well first of all I I think it would be good for them to add a defenseman. The cap considerations for this team are legion. Which makes things a little bit tougher? I would agree with you on on Tyson. Berry not necessarily having worked out the way you hoped I mean he is will as one point five goals above in right now according to evolving hockey which is pathetic. So but if you're going to move them you move them into hockey deal for some something that could come back the other way. That will fill that role as best. I can and I'm not quite sure what that would be and frankly as a USA. You're kind of looking at at moving into a contender. Potentially which made broaden the field a little bit but also make things a little bit more complicated for the leafs because the person that you'd WanNa bring back might be a vital part of whatever they're doing so I guess long story short is if you could find a deal with a contender where they've got an offensive defensive. Plays the right side. They don't want any more than make the deal. Outta here. Can't go to hang onto him. Yeah I think my thing is. This is a team with cleared defensive deficiencies and I understand. Tyson Berry has not been perfect. And there's not been everything they had imagined and hoped he would be. But he's him better than a lot of their replacements. They're looking at either with barley elsewhere. So I think as this team is so important for them to make the playoffs this year. Hey maybe it's just been in endgame where they don't WanNa get a seat where they matched up against the bruins trying to get a you know place at whatever they're trying to do they just need to get in and I think Perry at this moment gives them the best chance to do it and capulets pretty low. It's not like he's the one that's weighing this team down right now. We'll talk about Morgan Riley. And a bit but leaves for sure Have any more calls? We Have Ryan. This is the last one all right. Gregg it emily Cats Fan really frustrated. Eleven and eleven since Christmas basically. So I'm GonNa go with sending Richard Panik and Nick Jensen to San Jose for Brandon. Dillon and melker Car Carlson. Hopefully that solve some issues there and then as far as the Olympics go. Why don't we just not stop play? Call up people from the AHL get guys experience get guys playing in situations that they haven't been able to play with because veterans are taking our spots. What's going to happen if somebody goes to the Olympics and gets hurt anyway? You'RE GONNA have to replace him. Why not do it early? Thanks bye bye well. Obviously Emily this call made before the blockbuster deal between the capitals in the sharks that bought I mean good foresight fire boy second round. Pick in two thousand twenty conditional. Third Round Pick and twenty twenty one to the sharks are Brennan Dylan. I think you'd have to ante up a bit more to get melker. Karlsson at of that deal all due respect to Richard Panik and Jensen The Olympic question was interesting. I don't think there's much of an appetite if at all for that From either side to be quite frank one when you look at the players. It's not just the Olympians that want to go to the Olympics. The Nod Olympians. Want the Olympia to go to the Olympics. Because there's nothing. They love more than a two week break in the middle of the season when they get to go to Cancun. It's amazing for everybody so like yes. It'd be great for H. L. Players get called up by the players association agreeing to this and as for owners. I think they would see that. There would be a dip in revenue and it is a disruption to the season because it's not the actual NHL season and it really then becomes. I just think there's too many complications here. His question was interesting. Because I don't know if I've ever heard the owners answer that that question. Yeah No. You're right. I'm kind of just speaking on my no. You're you're you're you're you're point but I I just find it intriguing and all this talk of like well. We don't want to shut down season like I don't know if any of US virgin conduct kind of went them and said well don't the and what does that response ultimately. If it's that we think are revenues will decrease because our star players. Aren't there. Well I mean how many season tickets have you sold? I mean those those. That's already there. Are you worried about your walkup? If you're worried about your walkup will then decrease the ticket prices while the guys if the Olympics like make it more accessible admits that you're going to see a diminished product. But get more people through the door dollar hot dog night. Who cares like I find it intriguing? That IF THE ARGUMENT IS SHUTTING DOWN. Our season is disruptive. Don't shut down the season. And then it'll probably be well letting all of our star players go is disruptive competing against the Olympics is disruptive. And then we're right back at square one which is trying to use it as a CPA bargaining chip which sucks good calls. Everybody thanks for participating in a reindeer games. Let's get into some of the stuff we didn't really talk about Tyler Toffoli. Emily traded from the La Kings. The Vancouver canucks for Tim. Schaller Tyler Mad and the two thousand twenty second rounder and a conditional two thousand twenty two fourth-rounder if he resigns with Vancouver. This trade took out a different dynamic. We realized Brock vestry was going to be up. Potentially for the rest of the regular season. What did you think about to fully to the canucks? Yeah I love this trade. If the conducts thing that they're making a run for it this year. The connector does trying to get in the playoffs. This is a total overpay for just seeking into the playoffs and being a one and done. I think he makes our team better. No doubt I just thought the price was a little too rich to give up a prospect as talented as they did and ver- just as much uncertainty that there is in the Pacific Division. And I find it fascinating that Jon. Benet is still open to making more trades. He clearly wants toughness in the lineup. It sounds like they're still in on Wayne Simmons and to me sounds like GM who is trying to make moves to save his own job. I like to fully though. I think it's a good good pick up for them and and I also understand. He's making moves to save his job but I also like the idea of the connects trying their best to make the playoffs this year. I know a lot of expansion like why mortgage the future for for today. One get in and who knows what happens with to like it will exponentially help the maturation of guys lake like Patterson and Quinn Hughes to culture. Yeah and a winning Culture B-be also understand you know how the pedal gets pushed down in the playoffs and understand that dynamic and and the intensity of playoff series like there's a million reasons. Why just making sure you make the playoffs. This season will be beneficial for the thank connects beyond the idea that that Jim Benning could potentially save his job. But I agree with you on that one. It was sort of that little desperation. Move Andy Green goes to the only place he'd probably go the New York Islanders for David Quenneville because the double just keep on getting these Quin Villes not the right one and two thousand two thousand twenty one second round pick which perked up a lot of eyebrows because Andy Green not exactly a rookie in this league andy. Green Was Of course. Signed as a as a undrafted free agent by Lou Lamoriello. He's now thirty seven years old and the islanders the for the season he's Ufa second rounder for Integrion. A little rich but there is you know there's a lot of reasons. I like this trade Andy. Green is at home defenceman. He's played under Lou. Lamoriello coached teams in the past. Or you know manage teams in the past. They're not going to ask them to do anything he can't do already. He just further you know bolsters their identity. And that's a good thing that said the price is especially rich when you consider that Andy Green controlled his own density. He didn't no movement clause which meant that management had come to me like Andy. Where would you be comfortable going and Andy goes well? I'd like for my family to stay in the area and not have to move to teams and these still figured out a way to do it again. A second round pick. That's incredible jamming by Tom Fitzgerald. Who went into this situation? Not Knowing if he had the full time job he's an interim GM. And I think right. Now he's making it really hard for devils ownership not hiring for the full time job because this was masterful and the Blake Coleman was again masterful. Yeah let's talk about the Coleman thing because you you mentioned you thought it was a pretty severe overpayment. I did not severe but I did find it to be an overpayment for you know. This is a talented team and I get it. They want to win now and they think they're window is this year and next year and Nolan might not fit into that and their first round pick might not fit into that and Coleman does this is the guy that's never scored more than forty points in his career. I understand that he's having a High Energy Player. But like can we look at past performance? Move on Jilin. Danilo traded from the Ottawa. Senators to the Winnipeg jets for third round. Pick good good move. Great Move Onward Move. I mean the jets. Pick up a really good defense men from an analytic standpoint who plays defensive demand game the interesting thing. Here was the outcry from some people in Toronto. They're like why couldn't you trade a third round pick for the mellow first of all because Ottawa's not looking healthy out second of all you don't even have. Yeah exactly yeah. I think it's all about the trading partner here on the runway Alec Martinez Venerable. Bob Mackenzie says that discussions were ongoing as we started this podcast between the Vegas Golden Knights in the La Kings for the services of Alec Martinez. Who has another year on his contract after this one was told by some King? Sources that yeah. He's he's definitely gone by the trade deadline so we can expect to be there to be some Alec Martinez Trade. But as these defensemen all start getting dealt and as we start to see the prices of these defensemen You start to wonder what the what the market is going to end up being Three first round takes potential surprises. There's been a lot of scuttle but then you enter that Jeff. Carter could end up back in Philadelphia depending on the health. Oh Yeah I think. That's the key is that you know all season long. Chuck Fletcher has been like but we're GONNA get Nolan Patrick Back. No one patrick will be like our own trade deadline acquisition. Now we're at the trade deadline. And because it's such a nebulous issue. It's involving his head. It's chronic migraines we don't quite know and if he's not coming back. I feel like there needs to be a move to be made because they were all in on getting lean video for this group because they felt like they were ready to make. The playoffs needed a season guy to make the playoffs. They WanNa make the playoffs They'll need some guys to do it. And the only thing that I do know from Chuck Fletcher though he keeps saying he wants to make hockey trade and he wants guys. That's still have term. He doesn't want just a one and done. Jeff Carter is under contract with twenty twenty two five point seven five point two seven two seven two seven which is the capital psycho to that deal. Carter crazy to cap friendly Good versatile forward can play wing COMPLA- center and and obviously is a known quantity too many of the flyers that are still on this team and also many a people around Philadelphia so that'd be a fun. The other interesting one. Montreal is a tough nut to crack. I think they could still be a pretty good hockey team. As long as you're not playing Detroit and then you have a lot of assets that In talking to some sources around the league they're all kind of waiting to see what Montreal becomes if they could become a seller. Now you're talking to tar four point eight million through two thousand twenty one. Now you're Talkin Geoff Petrie five point five million for two thousand twenty one. You're talking the possibility of Max. Don't me potentially moving as a restricted free agent if somebody wanted to go and then pay a premium for him? Kovalchuk obviously is is a name. That's going to be out there although I did talk to. Somebody this week. Who said that? The connection that coble chuck is found with Mark. Berge van in Montreal should be something that he doesn't take for granted. He has been more motivated in his played. Better in Montreal all that anyone could have anticipated and that could be a fit that that he would relish the only thing that Canadians have to think about it. Okay that's a wonderful fit and we love him for seven hundred thousand dollars but he planned for that next year. What'S HE GONNA ask for this summer and does that fit in our plans. It's an excellent point and also how many years he wants to get it for so we'll see what happens there but yeah the Katie ends or the real wild card here. Do you see them becoming movers and shakers and sellers at the deadline. Or do you think they're going to be a delusional. I think there could be cautious sellers to muster Tara. I don't think they WANNA move him but he's got an extra year of term if someone wants to give the deal. That Detroit gave to Vegas two years ago for Tomas Tatar. They've got an ally. That was a ridiculous deal. Jeff Petri is a guy. I don't think they should move. He's only making five and a half million dollars. He's under contract for next year. Yes the package for him. Could be quite good. But who else do they have in the defensive group that can eat those minutes up especially when we don't quite know about the long term health of Shea Weber. So that's a guy that in my opinion they should keep there. You Go navid shavers you know. He these his career might not be over despite previous. I understand like they're on the cusp right now with the playoffs that I don't know why the team hasn't put in the white flag like look. It's not happening us for this year. It's just not. Let's figure out the best way to be competitive next year and let's not play Shea Weber and put them in some bubble wrap and sent him to Mexico and on a beach. Here's ladies and gentlemen. It's the latest edition of Sach. Got Your number. Hey Greg and emily how the maple leaves and flames mortgage their future. The leafs and flames are tied for the fewest of their own draft picks remaining. How many of their own picks do they have for twenty? I'm guessing he means the season. I'll say they're seven rounds. They've got four. I'll say they have three. I'll go look good. They only have three of their traffic fix left however to their credit at least they've traded for some low rounders to build themselves up. I guess sorry about your leafs Greg. Greg believes leafs during that site when I think he might have but at least fan. I pick them to win the Cup this year. Remember Oh okay Gotcha Gotcha do. But that was. That was an interesting one. I will say that my my victory today may break the longest period of time between wins in a PODCAST GAME. Show segment in podcast history. Because I see you so big win for your boy outside favorites segment of the week. Phil Kessel hot dogs. No he does not love to eat hotdogs. We get sad and straight hair is good. It's Phil Kessel. Hotdogs look at the mistakes the hyperbole the bad takes spicier non spicy that pervade the hockey media each week that two of them this week. It's hi emily. Let's go remiss if we didn't mention the take that we just referenced in talking about Shea Weber. Which was Nick Kip Rios? Who is a? I believe still looking for a GIG after getting the laid off sports taking to twitter and saying quote sources say Shea Weber's injury sources say Shea Weber. Injury has a season likely over and his future in question told. Injury is related to foot. That was surgically repaired in two thousand eighteen while waiting for swelling to alleviate in further confirmation surgery seemed unavoidable going into this week so His season likely over in his future in question that was on February Twelfth Weber of course returned to action this week Less than a week after caprio mentioned this which is kind of embarrassing. Curios took to Instagram to follow up and say to Shea Weber the Montreal Canadians Organization last week. I had a tweet to further advance. The story of his injury while I was able to properly identify his injured foot. Good on you doctor. And speak of the swelling wallet awaiting further cooperate confirmation. It was not my intent to mislead anyone about his immediate future but above about about after time to reflect. Understand portions of my tweet. Edit UNCERTAIN UNNECESSARY STRESS. Touche his family and a team. Why still stand by the information that I received? I'd like to apologize to Shay Acadians for choose not choosing my words with more sensitivity so I stand by my reporting that his career might be over but sorry that I said it in short the other winner of Phil Kessel dog this week. Steve Simmons the Creator Phil Kessel as hot dogs with his reporting on Phil Kessel who has decided to dance on the grave of a playoff team. Which the the Maple. Leafs are still. Even though they got blown out by Pittsburgh this week this is a paragraph in Simmons's column and for all the develop. You know where this is going folks for all the devout followers of analytics who laughed with Glee when the modern thinking dubus was named as GM like two years ago by the way ahead of Lou Labyrinth and here comes mark. Hunter ask yourself this. What exactly did analytics have to do? With getting drubbed in Pittsburgh on Tuesday Martin. Marin was out of position onto power play goals and Freddie Anderson coughed up. One on another couple things. Expect every old school media guy in. Toronto. Who Lost Bart Conner as a source and is booed face about a child having fired. Mike Babcock to do this very thing in the near future to Martin. Marin San is playing on this team on his defense right now because Morgan Riley is injured. Morgan rather top defensemen Morgan Riley. Who is their most important defenseman workaround? You might be one of their most important players overall out of the lineup since early January. That doesn't get mentioned until several paragraphs after we reference the loss of Mark Hunter and Frederickson. Coughing UP A goal on a power play. Let's see here. I'm checking my math. Abacus out go moving things over here all right and Oh yeah has absolutely nothing to do with that Olympics and in fact one might say the leave struggles like every other team in this league that struggles is completely tied. To the fact that they're goaltending has been hot garbage for a month that links. Now it's time for PUCK HEADLINES DATELINE Air Force Academy the Assistant. Ad Of Air Force Academy. Emily through some shade at fans. Who didn't believe left early enough for the stadium series game on Saturday night? If you if you read our coverage of it fans were still entering the stadium in the second intermission. Having just gotten to the stadium because of parking and traffic problems basically said that they should have left earlier. I I thought the people that left for what should be a one hour trip and budgeted three hours and then it took like four and a half hours so it was a mess. The other part of this emily. That's kind of disturbing. Is there was a fatality that affected the ability of people to leave the stadium? There's only gates into Air Force Academy. One of them was shut down. Adam pruitt thirty one died when he fell off a bridge at eleven PM. Just west of the academy's northgate. It's I saw the police investigation as I left the game. Actually around midnight no details on the death but if you are not affiliated with Air Force Academy and you were walking around this campus at this time and you're leaving through the northgate on foot. I mean this is complete speculation but I'm guessing this is somebody who maybe walked the game and left their car someplace else potentially so we'll see how this whole thing shakes out but that was definitely not just my speculation when we heard about this unfortunate fatality and condolences addams family for this loss but just ugly situation all around this game which otherwise was was actually a pretty good event. Yeah Everything he thinks of itself as the worst traffic sitting American I had no idea it was Colorado Springs. Actually was number one but no it. It does seem like there was some poor planning here and they didn't just account for as manage traffic or the flow of traffic. Whatever it may be a hate that a damp and debt because the optics of the game were cool. Were like you were there with it. It was the obviously. The third period of the game was a lot of fun because it was a tight game and as much as I shaded the whole sitting all of the air force cadets behind the goal gave them potentially the worst seats you could possibly give anybody at the stadium series games where they can't see a damn thing. It was really cool because the players walked through them to get to the rink and the players. Were telling me that. When you're in a stadium series game or an Eric or when a classic you feel so separated from the fans because of where the rink is where the stands are that to to go down that aisle in high five the cadets and stuff was really cool on top of obviously the the respect that they all have for for those who serve so. That was a pretty cool aspect of it. Sucks that all this stuff? I'm sorry like don't shave. The people that left at three o'clock for a six o'clock puck drop. You know fix the traffic mess. Dateline Raleigh. Thank you and I are going to have to have a knife. Fight gets the cover. This one. The Stadium Series Kevin North Carolina Baby. Nc State will host the stadium series game next season the Carolina hurricanes against what we expect to be the Pittsburgh Penguins at NC state. Is that what it is now? It's the pens well the the capital's denied that their team and the heavy speculation is that because of the regionality of the penguins fan base and the penguins do bring more than a few fans Carolina Hurricanes Home Games. Did it could be the penguins on top of the Jim Rutherford connection between the hurricanes and the penguins. See how many old Hartford whalers we get this game. Ron Francis will somehow involved. I promise you you know. I think it's cool and I also wonder if the cats are not involved because they're leading up. It's probably not going to be this year but next year for a European game in Russia which I think will happen. I don't think it's happening this fall. But it'd be the next fall after that but yeah kudos to the Raleigh. I know that they campaigned hard for this with the city. I think it'll be awesome. The tailgating scene is going to be ridiculous and they won't have to worry about quite as much traffic issues because my mistaken that the NC state football stadium is right in the parking lot of PNC arena. So it's not any different than there used to directing traffic just more people that sounds right European game in Russia. Do you mean outdoor game or do you mean just a game no the European series whatever they call it globe series. Oh man because I was thinking I'm still waiting for them to pull an outdoor game out of their pocket for one of these European markets. Yeah let's go red square where Putin plays or I think. Putin plays where everyone where Putin wants to play in Red Square. Stick the oilers in that outdoor stadium in Germany for dry seidel. They tacked place outdoor game. It'd be amazing. Datelined Buffalo scale of one to ten. How screwed is paper throwing Buffalo Sabres general manager? Jason boy the hits just keep on coming. We didn't mentioned earlier because he wanted to mention it here. The Montreal Canadians Traded Marcos Candela to the Saint Louis Blues as j Boo Mistress Replacement. And pull the second round pick for him so to review Jason Botterill in a package to the Minnesota. Wild traded a third round pick for scandal. He traded scandal to the Canadians for fourth round. Pick the Canadians. Then traded scandal operate. Second Round Pick also the reason that scandal was traded from the Buffalo Sabres to the Montreal. Canadians was so that Jason Botterill could clear some space to trade for Michael for leak who has a negative three point. Two goals scored above average and has been hot garbage for Buffalo. So yeah I would give them a one. He's in super trouble in Buffalo. Yeah we've alluded to this. I think there are some offseason changes especially as it comes to the management structure in Buffalo. Honestly what would not surprise me at? This point is if in the next two years. We see Ralph Krueger on the management side of things instead of coaching side of things. Maybe both but that's a name that I would keep an eye out for and I would keep an eye out for them. Potentially you know I know. They've denied it but hirings in between the GM and the ownership but maybe there's someone already in the organization that ownership trust that they have in mind floated. This idea puck soup. And I'm in love with it now but Christopher Rian Danny Briere Koji M.'s. Come back save the day in Buffalo. The gresh that'd be amazing. I don't think there's any way that the rangers leading Chris Drury go. I think they would buy. Do you think that the Rangers Would Fire Jeff Gordon and a second if they found out that jurors GONNA get high risk somewhere else like we'll take your jury? Ooh I don't know that's a good question but yeah jury is someone that they're they're gonNA hold onto. As long as they can. Dateline the Hart Trophy. The android sign now has a thirteen point lead in the art. Ross race having a gun on US goals a point scoring binge with connery. David out of the lineup emily. There's this cement dreidel as the Hart trophy favourite now that he's doing that Hart Trophy thing of scoring points even with the other guy out of the lineup I think so he's right around the same pace that Nikita Kucherov was on last year and I just love the stat if he has five point is the next two games. He's going to be the first player to reach one hundred points in sixty one games or fewer Mario lemieux in one thousand nine hundred ninety six ninety seven or Jesse. No was it a little bit of a different time in terms of the way guys scoring points so Yeah I think he's got to be the favorite now but native McKinnon's Nakata's doors like hey man I've got nobody to play with and I might drag the same into the playoffs myself. Mackinnon MacKinnon still is the guy I mean. God He is. He is nearly forty points. Clear of the next highest score on Colorado. He's been incredible and it's only going to cement itself if they don't get any scoring helping us out the rest of the year I know shaded dry side. I had people telling me dress was a better heart choice than mcdavid months ago based on people around the oilers telling me how important that that he was. The team I think based on Glamour's that's I think if he wins the art Ross and continues to do what he does with. David lineup will probably win it. Because we know how voter running brothers and sisters but Mackenzie real good pick heck matthews might be a good pick to the way things are going leafs dateline Dick Millions you got. Hbo You Watch millions. I haven't seen it yet but I heard it's good. It's good it's so I wanted to just put this out there in the world because sometimes people like to hear what emily and I are into pop culture. He was McMillan's documentary on. Hbo They're actually doling it out one episode a week about the giant scandal old school. Yeah I know right. It's kind of annoying but also kind of good the giant scandal in which game pieces for the McDonald's monopoly game were somehow stolen and then given to a bunch of people who all sort of knew each other that the FBI eventually found out where they scam. Mcdonald's out of millions of dollars somehow the mafia gets involved. Somehow a bunch of other things get involved it involves FBI sting operations. You get to actually see the recordings of the people back in the day being tricked into getting basically depositions because they think that they're on some McDonalds like infomercial. It's all fascinating and really well done. So if you're looking for a good doc. The first three episodes available wherever you watch. Hbo Stuff. Millions is a good choice. It's really good. We have a rant line right Ryan. You said highgrading emily I cannot stand. He's terrible deadline shows their horrendous. No one wants to stare at James Duffy or Jeff Maric Nicer looking as they are for eight hours while they twiddle their thumbs and do nothing. The only thing that's ever even having one of those show Greg have to do all right answer that one. Explain that reference okay I didn't put my pants. I was wearing brown pants that were referred to on social media as diarrhea pants because of their color and Sports Net was nice enough to give me a different pair of pants to wear on the air. So that is where do pants comes from the correct. The correct nomenclature is diarrhea pants for the record. Now I think it's one of those double edged swords right like we want hockey to get more coverage. This is hockey coverage and even if something doesn't happen it's an excuse for these networks. Have a couple of hours. Dedicate to hockey which I understand. They do more often than our network does. But I don't know it's fine. How many thoughts? I think it's also important to remember that they do tend to kind of keep the focus on hockey for the majority of that show. I think emily and I were tasked with doing twelve hours of coverage on a day when nothing happens Then it would sound very much like it does in Bristol where emily and I will be on Monday for the trade deadline where it becomes discussions about you know the funniest named New Jersey City's and the quality of pizza toppings the place in West Hartford. We go to a very good chance that it would look a lot different than what it looks like on Canadian Television which may be better but to those who are struggling with the Canadian. Acadian trade deadline shows. I still give them credit for keeping their eye on the price is best they can even if it eventually devolved into leaves talk and they get Justin Trudeau call and it's important. It's big national stuff. Yeah all right. That's a fun and exciting differently formatted. Espn is for this week. Thanks to everybody who called. I think you individually but emily. I noticed that I would say most of the calls. It involve anybody's name for some reason. I don't know why that was the case. Now they did. I remember some names. It was Dan. Was it the enter. Dan Don I thought it was going to be more like. Wfan where they're like. You know you know. Hey everybody it's me don from flush I guess Ryan Says Don so look. You don't even know. Their names are anyway on that note. 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Willie O'Ree, Penguins Big Move

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Willie O'Ree, Penguins Big Move

"Hey Emily Greg. So the Lacrosse goal the Michigan the specialty coffee the Forsberg. Whatever you WANNA call it? It is poisoned in the minds of the ESPN editorial staff. And I'll tell you why we put together a top ten coolest goals scored in the NHL list that ran this week on ESPN DOT com. And let me tell you. There's someone here that I love. The Peter Forsberg the Pavel Datsyuk flip during the shootout yager slicing through the defense savard slicing through the Defense Mareo decoding sliding slice defense number. One without question Ovechkin. The goal scores it on his back. Awesome stuff against the coyotes. Everybody remembers the two thousand six but number two on the list. Is the Lacrosse goal. What do you consider the Lacrosse goal to be the second greatest version of a cool ogle and NHL history? Honestly I think it's been diluted lately because not only did I just do it in a game but we've now seen it in the. Oh L. we've seen it in Sweden. We've seen other guys do it. And like maybe because Austin Matthews tried it a few times and couldn't executed and everyone in Toronto went crazy and said this must be the hardest thing in the entire world But Yeah I think it's been diluted dude I mean the only thing you can really pull off as a moustache from what I've seen but I think the thing for me is depends on how how much amodio has done to be quite honest share. Yes then it's at least if he can get four buttons undone and with the Mustache then he pulls up mustache. No He's Lacrosse goals. Incredible first of all whenever we talk about anything in hockey. We are talking about things that I can't accomplish given ten ten years of training. Let's just be honest but the Lacrosse goal. When I look at the other goals in this list and I see these incredible feats of athleticism and slicing through defenses and decoding and shooting and doing things lightning fast speed? That just defy logic and gravity. The lacrosse goal is basically just like surprise. It's just basically like the goaltender has back to you. And you put the goal the puck on in your blade and you sneak it past him. And that's that's fine. It's a cool goal but essentially what it is. Somebody always has to have their back to view based on the position that they play. And you're taking advantage of this by sneaking the puck like over his shoulder. It's fun it's a super surprise reminds ends me of people out from behind the couch for your thirtieth birthday or whatever but as a goal as pure athleticism get. Give me the deacon through five to get in making a backhand shot and just do the whole thing. That's what I want you I want. I see all these names on this list. And we've got the the younger of the World Crosby we've got Pavel Beret Denis Savard Merrick maleek big homing Merrick Leak and his shootout goal through the leg that is surprising athleticism. That's surprising and remains the old. The American League goal to shoot apologised is like the Roswell crash to you like this thing happened once and that's why we should believe aliens like this thing happened once and that's why we should have the shootout doubt go sixteen rounds with different people because a random third pairing defenceman might score an amazing goal. Like it's now Gospel to these freaks leaks that like the shootout. The one thing I'll say about this list is devils Fan Jack. Well a true three on three aficionado. Surprise me at this list is that economist. David didn't make it and I've had some people point out to me after this list drop wears mcdavid and the only thing I can think that maybe he scored so many great goals that it's just commonplace and like none of them really are that exceptional because they're all exceptional. Maybe it's some sort of random thing where you know if we're all super none of super I don't know but why did you like was mcdavid. Even a choice. We did this voting. I I WANNA say yes but probably know and and you're right like I can think of a half dozen of goals off the top of my head and all them are amazing but then we just call it Wednesday for him right exactly. He's God level so we don't we don't even have to laud any of his goals on top ten list because he's he's on his own list he's on the puck end his mouth and spews it out to the unexpecting goalie. He will remain off this list. That was my favorite part of this list. By the way is the what comes next portion at the end on what could possibly be coming coming next insofar as the future of goalscoring. That's good. Yeah my favorite was doing the Lacrosse spin by Nikita Gustav literally occurred in the All Star game where anything can happen and there's no possible way that could game. Yeah every shot and hard shot is like five hundred miles an hour. Okay all right coming up on the show really good show actually will ris got an actual legend. Grace's this podcast with his presence. We talked really about a great many things including his awesome. A new documentary that you can catch on. ESPN plus And also you know issues with race and hockey which Willie is eloquent. An awesome on plus the penguins make trade. We might be going back to the Olympics. Maybe filibuster loves hotdogs PUCK HEADLINES AND ALL that more on this edition of ESPN and ice. Let's start start. The show proper shelley to your ear buds a podcast about hockey featuring things to do with hockey from your friends at ESPN beyond it's espn on ice with Shitski and Catholic everybody it's ESPN and ice. It's the podcast. ESPN talks about hockey. I'm Greg wishes in your NHL writer and then like Kaplan National Nhl reporter. Greg we have a trade and it was not one for one which one for one at all yeah trade to announce it was fun. It dropped when I was walking a dog. So that's always exciting. It was the Pittsburgh Penguins making the big old deal with the Minnesota wild. Finally Jim Rutherford gets his white whale. I I'm Captain Ahab and get's Jason's hooker finally from the Minnesota Wild The wild deal him for Alex Skull Chenya Expiring Contract Act. Defenseman Kaelin Addison which is an extraordinarily young Defenseman in two thousand twenty name and a conditional first round pick that will not the wilds if the penguins are in the lottery but since the penguins are have the fourth best record in the NHL Right now probably a twenty twenty first round. Pick going to the wild for Jason Sucker now. Zucker has he's in the second year of a five-year twenty seven point five million dollar contract of course emily. We remember that he almost became a member over the Pittsburgh Penguins last year in deal it would have sent him. And Victor Rask to Pittsburgh in exchange for a lovely and talented Phil Kessel and a lovely Johnson Jack Johnson and that fell through when Phil said Nah. Couldn't Minnesota so Jason Sucker now a member of the penguins couple thoughts on the steel one. I think that this is technically a cost-saving deal for the penguins. And I'll explain why I won. They rid themselves of Alex. Chen Yuck for the rest of the year so they didn't have to do any other finagling there too. They can fire their entire amateur scouting department because they don't have any first round picks six and there's no purpose of having one so look they save a ton of money. They're all jokes aside. I think that You Know Bill Garin wasn't going to get fleeced on this deal. Nobody knows the penguins prospect system better than Bill Garin who literally ran it for the last couple of years as the assistant. GM in Pittsburgh This is a really great first statement trade for him as the GM decker is a guy who you know. It's a luxury like they didn't need to get rid of him. They have under contract. He loves being there. He's a great player but if teams kept calling on them and they did They got a really good return getting a first round peg. Get Him at defensive prospect eating Abdel Shenyang Salary for the end of law season. Like that's a great hall for many as Garin starts to cement his legacy and start to put a stamp on this roster. I'm from Pittsburgh perspective. This is awesome. This is the guy as you mentioned that they've long coveted this guy that's under term for the next couple of years which is important for them because they're always going up against the cap and this is the guy that can play on Sydney's wing. He plays a really good brand of hockey that meshes well with their style. They've been looking for scoring winger. Probably before but especially Lee since Jake and so was out for the year and this just cements them as you know I think probably well as probably maybe this cements them as a contender in the east. I'll say it right there. Yeah and it's already been announced that he's going to play on the wing. You wonder how life changes Sir when Jake gets healthy but for now it's the Zuckerman crosby show and like you said from a financial perspective. I mean his cap hit and it seemed a little high when he wasn't necessarily scoring at the same level he was in his contract. You're funny how that always seems to happen in the National Hockey League when you guys have incredible careers at the moment the signed big contracts but at at five point five million if he's going to be thirty goal scorer like that's great and he's twenty eight. He's he's writing prime. They have cost certainty on the contract through two thousand twenty three and also like dude. Who by all accounts is a real solid citizen in the room? A real solid citizen in the community Good good good move by the penguins and and again like Compare What The Wild oiled could've ended up with a year ago in this deal a thirty two year old who has cratered in Arizona. Maybe he's thirty three and John's thirty two. I forget which one's which but like both of them. Are you know past their prime and not exactly what a a rebuilding team needs. So you know. Thank you Paul. Fenton for having a trade xed out by Phil Kessel and thank you Bill Garin for actually making a deal that addresses the future a little bit for the Minnesota Wild but so this is like a little bit earlier than the trade deadline. Maybe we thought this could be a move. That is happening a little. You know a couple of weeks from now we actually have to sit in a room and report on all of this stuff. What's your vibe right now on the trade deadline as we are less in two weeks away from the February twenty four three PM deadline the NHL you know initial fears that this was going to be another really slow year air? GM's you talk to say that everyone's looking for someone with term and that's obviously much harder to trade but you know this year I get the sense ends with so many teams. On the cusp. There could be movement of people trying to separate from the pack and like a perfect example is the Colorado Avalanche. You are super talented wanted team. Everyone's lauding them as a contender already. they were already thinking of adding luxury items. Like you know the sniffed around Taylor Hall and that was going down and now that they're out Nazem Kadri for a little bit of time. I wouldn't be shocked if they go out and get a big name and and get a score that can help Nathan Mackinnon relieve some pressure from him. Will they were always sniffing around Chris Kreider so we'll see if maybe that comes to fruition at some point bliss everyone's sniffing around Chris Kreider. He's great he's great in any line. Lineup I pry. I'm guessing what do you think X.. Body spray or like Jakhar would think he smells like I think he's smells like smelly equipment. which is like like dogs smelling each other's but that's just love to smell very very descriptive? Producer Ryan says that Chris Kreider riders posed like Sex Panther. Well that's interesting possible. Every you know works every time I think the interesting thing about the trade deadline right now is that we are less than two weeks away but in in in two weeks a lot can change and you know and and putting together our trade deadline preview stuff in the last few weeks. The usual suspects were there. I I mean you know the devils the senators the sabers wings the kings the sharks. You know duckie's but now that we're getting closer to it and you start to see like Montreal had horrible loss last night as we do this podcast there now. Seven or eight points out of last wildcard spot. That's a team second. Now maybe flip the switch and become a seller the rangers. We knew we were going to be shared Weber's out but the panthers probably not a seller. They're kind time still in the thick of things but you go to the western conference. I mean what's the think of the Nashville predators They're right in the thick of things but are they going to be that team like the blues. Were a few years ago where David just decides to break glass and say you know what we need to kind of change the configuration of this team. Because I don't know that we can win right now with this with this roster. You're what are the wild. Do the Blackhawks for a hot minute work contender now. They've moved back a little bit. They have a couple of games in hand. What happens with the goaltending? That's the weed their their playoff chances in the last month or so so. There's a lot of sort of flux right now with some teams at Montreal very much particular that could easily flip from being teams is that were like. I don't know maybe we should just hang on guys we can get in the playoffs. Teams are like sell sell sell. I think it's going to be interesting. Two weeks to see where these teams end up. The only not that I'm confident is going to unload. Players is the king's like when there's enough smoke and it's like really really cloudy over there in l. a. these days like there's going to be fire in Tyler. Toffoli is not going to be on this team. mid-month from now there's other Alec Martinez I think teams will probably try to make a big trade for him. mm so that's the one team but like if you want to make sure bed of WHO's going to make a move I'd say it's the kings other than that like the other bottom. feeders don't have obvious. Candidates is to trade like the wings you could probably say anyone is on the table outside of dill marketed. Anthony Mantha but does anyone want anyone on that roster like anyone want Andre is on pursue my green. Yeah exactly You know the senators. There's not many obvious candidates. They're like John. Gabriel go oh patio patio because you should make more French if you know. They don't figure out an extension. He goes in the devils it. We still haven't quite figured out what's going on with the Sami Boston in an Andy. Greens or both impending. Ufa's yeah and then the real interesting one there for all the talk about Tomas Truecar. You're potentially being available for the Canadians. Man Gimme cow. Paul Mary any day of the week if he's available but again the thing about the devils right now is that we understand stand their lot in life we understand. It's GonNa get another sort of form of a rebuild we understand there's an interim gm from ownership like Paul. Mary could bring bring bring them back a lot of value but like he sure. And you've got to have somebody to pass to get started. Go in the tank completely for the next six years or something here. It's kind of a bummer. To think that you and I have covered deadlines in recent memory that involved will John. TAVERAS be traded. Will Eric Carlson. And be traded. Will Matt Duchenne and Mark Stone be traded. And now we're all kind of lighting candles to see if you know Jogos or were Kreider is going to go where the the Alec Martinez Derby. It's kind of a step down from the big blockbuster. Earth theories and hopes and dreams of previous deadlines that said there are a few wildcards at play here that if they if they become available or if they their teams decided to go in a different direction could change the complexion of the trade deadline Max domes one of them are earthy this summer. I think a guy that they wanNA bring back in theory but he's got no trade protection if they get blown away by something. Montreal Mike Go Someplace there. The Minute Ryan gets laugh or Joe Thornton says you know what I think. I'd like to move on and do something else they're going to be traded. I don't know if either of them we'll say within the next two weeks probably not but who knows PK Sue van. If the devils gobble up half that contract you wonder whether or not the lease might be in the. PK Suba Business. There's sort of speculation coming from Toronto that that might be the case. And you know the thing that we both want to see happen but probably won't have because there's ONA's way too close to the playoffs. The recycling of Taylor Hall now only three million dollars hours against the cap because of of the the salary the devils up and John Jacob all accounts thinks that. He's got a chance to resign Taylor Hall. I don't think that has a chance to resign. Taylor tell her halls gonNA play in a different kind of market than than Arizona disrespect to Glendale. But but I mean you don't you don't trade for Taylor Hall to flip them if you have a realistic shot the playoffs as much fun as that would be right especially the but so much premium making the playoffs this year. Like they have to do it if you if you were the Bruins. Okay and you were like dabbling in the dark arts of Chris Chris Kreider or Tyler Toffoli. And you had this package and you're like I'm GONNA spend this package on a on a rental like don't you go to Arizona. I and say look we know we know you have Taylor Hall and you WanNa win things. But what if we gave you this and you give us Taylor Hall in his three million dollar cap it for the rest of the season like don't yeah at least make that phone call. If you're don sweeney you make the call. I have to say John. Jake has a pretty good record with trades like you rarely gets least. That's true I mean. Say what you will about the coyotes. But he's he's been pretty good on the street from all right. I make one one prediction of something think's GonNa Happen. Okay go ahead. Good Chris Kreider is going to be blue. Wow Saint Louis Blues. I think they're going to pull the Patrick Kane with bloody terracing goes capit- Pitt kind of maybe they look. He's got a couple of weeks he's going to debut in the playoffs. Use that cap space. Get Chris. Kreider go all in on defending the Cup one prediction for the trade deadline. All right. I'll go here Sami Vatanen to the to the capital's ooh I like that. Yeah I think I think. They're going to bolster their Blue Line. Before before the postseason of course it would help. Maybe they they should trade for a mechanic to put the wheels back on because they've certainly fall off in the last week or so the capital's Mike All Right. Let's talk to an absolute legend. We're going to class up the joint for a few minutes. Here with William Murray and now joining us on the line is a very special guest hockey hall. Famer Willie Willie thank you so much for joining us. Well it's a pleasure. Emily so I have to ask about this documentary which is streaming on. ESPN PIN plus How long has been in the works and tell me a little bit about the pitch? They made you that they want to make a documentary about you. Well it It all started though with Brian. McBride who was the producer and he got together with me. Oh this is back probably I probably say about two years ago. And he says well he because I think we should do a documentary on your life and I said Oh my goodness That would be nice and It would take some travelling you know We would be contacting a lot of your your friends in your hometown A lot of places that you Played and so it all started and then Brian came to me and said yes. He says. It's In the final makes and he said we'd like you to take a look at it to to See what you think so. At first it didn't jump out at me. You know it But I I was excited to see A lot of my friends places where I had I played Friends that I had known for years and then I thought two or three times and I Then just started to sink in with me and I said Gosh I said this is certainly did a fantastic job of filming and traveling around and Talking to some of my old friends that I've known for over seventy years so I I'm I'm thrilled and I I'm just overwhelmed. that it's going GonNa be shown on On ESPN when people watch it. What do you hope they get out of it? Well I hope to get out of it. Not only The the hockey interest that I that I played you know I I only played with the Boston. Bruins for for forty five games. spending Three years but but The work that I started doing When Commissioner Bettman appointed media director of the NHL diversity program About Traveling around and I just wanted to give back to hockey and give back to the sport hockey given me and I felt that I I had something inside of me that I could share with boys and girls and helping them choose another sport that they play and traveling around north. America with the The cities that I've gone to I I hope that they they They get out of Shane the work that I've done and The lives that I've touched over. The years is quote that you said that really stuck out to us to me. I didn't know I was breaking the color barrier until the next morning when I heard it in the paper. Is there any part of you that maybe that could have made that experience easier for you. Well I don't I don't think so. You know I had gone to the bruins training camps on two occasions in nineteen fifty seven and fifty eight and and You know I was keeping my fingers crossed that The hopefully I'd get the opportunity to to be called up with it ruins But when they contacted the Quebec Aces the team that is playing for in in Quebec Canada And said we wanna read them. Eat The bruins in Montreal to play two games against the Montreal Canadians so when I arrived in around in Montreal I met Milk Schmidt the coach and Lynch Patrick the general manager and they They sat me down and said we've we've brought you up because we think you could add a little something Do our club and all of us thinking then is just trying to When I get on the ice is to play a good game in representing you know the cup to the best of my ability? But it didn't go through my mind about that. I was breaking breaking the color barrier or opening doors for other players of color and black players but honestly when I The next the next day and then I read it in the paper. 'cause I my parents come up in some good friends. Come up to watch the game and I just throw thrilled about you. Know beating the Canadians at night. We shut the three nothing and That's all I can think of is You know winning winning Against the Montreal Canadians I didn't get any goals or no assist but Just to be beat the Montreal team name With just a feat in itself. Hey Willy it's Greg Gerski thanks for doing this. You recently addressed the Chemo lose situation obviously stepping forward and making accusations against bill. Peters and Peter's residing shame because of it and I think anyone listening to this podcast podcast knows that we applaud Akeem for having done what he did. You did the same thing. What were your thoughts on on that situation and what a team was able to do to affect change age well? I'm I'm very pleased that that he he took the opportunity to step up and And you know tell tell what happened I had Racial remarks and racial slurs directed towards me when I when I played but You know thanks to my older brother brother who was not only my brother and my friend but he was my mentor and he taught me a lot of things that I would need to know if I was gonNA choose hockey as a career and he said I really says names will never hurt you unless she let them in. I I I went out. I knew I was a black man. I didn't have to be told that I just went out and concentrated on playing hockey and done. I let all the racial remarks and slurs win one ear. Note the other I I F- I fought a lot when I first when I first started. I thought because I had not because I wanted to but players just wanted to see When I was made of and You know I always tried to protect myself because back then. We didn't wear any helmets to goldies. Didn't wear mass or your face was exposed to exit sticks and everything else but I I just I wanNA give credit to these These players that are playing saying now that setup and just telling them you know we just can't. We just can't stand having racial remarks and rations racial slurs directed towards these players that said you also said recently that when it comes to the NHL and Racer Sport in general race that we've taken one step forward and two back. Would you mean by that. Well I meant you know When I broke and I was I was the first black player Fourteen years later Mike Marson broken with the Washington capitals and then later on with the Los Angeles The Los Angeles kings but I in the statement I made. I'm thinking we're heading. We're heading in the right direction. Then all of a sudden You hear these racial remarks and racial slurs from from these fans fans in the stand so it. It doesn't seem that we're going that going that far and the thing is that This is a this is the twentieth going the twenty first century and I. I'm just shocked that these things that are still happening. These racial remarks and racial slurs are still happening In the League and these these players of color and black players. They're there because they have the skills and the talent to be there. They're not they're just because they're black. They have skills and talent and Basically I just think that It's GonNa get we're working in the right direction but Some days. I think that we've already taken a step back. And then so now we've gotta take another another step forward to to keep going and and and recognizing What not What the potential goal is will? You've been so involved in hockey is for everyone and making the sport more inclusive especially at a grassroots level and we are seeing a a lot of progress in that but if you look at. Nhl Front Offices and their coaching staffs there's very little diversity and we often see the same guys getting hired again and again the same aimed guys who had opportunities before. I'm curious you know I know the. NFL has a rooney rural and demographics and the NFL are different. But is there any version of that rule that could make sense in the NHL. Well and what would that look like. Well you know the opportunities are there for anybody that wants to be a a a referee or linesman or general manager. Her or or or going going going into coaching The opportunities are there. You just have to you. Just have to You know set goals for yourself and work towards your goals I I use myself an example when I when I was seventeen years of age fourteen years of age. I told my my brother that I wanted to become a professional hockey player. And what do I need to do. Well being the youngest of thirteen children. I I had to stay in school Get an education I played a number sports growing up but I accept my goal to play professional hockey and hopefully one day get into the National Hockey League and I think that this is what a lot of A lot of people Have to do if they WANNA IF THEY WANNA get into a career you you need to set goals for yourself often. You need to stay focused on what you wanted to do. And don't tell anybody that don't let anybody tell you you can attain your goal and my message is if you think you can you can if you think your rate and there's a lot of truth to them. I totally agree with you. That said is there anything the NHL can do to help facilitate a make sure that these opportunities are being given people are given fair. Looks for these jobs well. They adore doors are open. You know and I think the NHL Cello doing everything they can. You know to to make it possible for for these people to get these positions You know you have to You have to feel within your heart within your mind that you WanNa make something happen and you if if you think you can in and work for you and you can make a difference. Willie Emily and I go to a lot of different events. All Star Games all sorts of stuff. We've seen you so many times at at these events meet-and-greet and people taking pictures of the kids. That sort of thing. What is that experience media? We're talking two thousand twenty now longtime since you're you playing days and yet people are coming up all the time to get pictures William Henry. I know it's a it's a nice feeling really You you know since since since I came aboard the NHL and You know I just wanted to give back. Give back to the sport what the what the sport had given me and I'm I'm so I'm so happy that you know commissioner bathroom and gave me the opportunity to get back into hockey after I had retired from nineteen eighty and then getting I'm back into hockey in nineteen ninety ninety six I just have a great time. I know that people are GonNa come up to me and ask me for an autograph re picture and you know I can't I can't even you know go into arena and get the my you know. Walk towards my seat before you know people come up and recognize me and I can see them pointing in in my direction and you know I'm coming over and saying Mr read. Do you mind if I get a picture with my son or daughter. So but It's Nice it's it's part part of what I do and I I'm so thrilled that I'm still able to Work at my age and be it'd be a part of the NHL family. What's your relationship to the current? NHL Right now do you watch it. Do you have any favorite players. You like Enjoy a lot of favorite place but I just watching. I just love watching the game. You know You know when I played Six teams or what's called the original six and then in nineteen sixty seven it it expanded six more teams and now we have thirty one and then Seattle will be coming in next year and For thirty two and it's The League it just keeps it's growing and growing the I love the The two referees the two linesmen all those still they miss a few things but The game is faster The players are bigger stronger. Better condition than than I was because they have the facilities rate in the arenas to tape themselves in the top. Physical Condition I I think the fans are enjoying the You know the three on three and And the shoot out a Lotta love the shootout so they're doing things to make To make the game more exciting for the fans and I have the the NHL package. And I watch in my home. When I'm home I watch you know four or five games A night and It's Ah the game was the game is just a great game. I think it's the greatest a sporting game on earth. My Hope Gary gave you the the Free Discount Code Food for the mistakes do Gary Gary takes good care of me. I guess I'm very pleased and very happy curious. You know sorry. I was a little focus on the coaches and GM's thing but are there any rising stars right now in the coaching ranks. GM ranks that so you think that fans should pay attention to and could be the first black coach in the NHL or first black GM. Oh not great off not right off hand there's I imagine there are some Individuals out there that you know that WanNa get into coaching and some of them that are probably coaching junior college. College teams names We possibly consider you know getting into the into the NHL S- All Right Willie last one because this is the question. Everybody's been asking around hockey for the last two weeks. But they're ready. I am Sir is a veteran. GonNa break rescues record or what I believe. So yes the ways going. If he doesn't get hurt I say yes. Yes Oh man what do you think about like did you. Did you think that goals record for grants was like unbreakable or did I mean. Did you think it was at one day. Oh I I knew that I knew somebody would get one day. You know you know you know back then in the NHL You know when you scored thirty goals thirty goals it's a big a year You know and then all of a sudden. There's there's a forty goal score and then you know Players Gordie Howe and and bobby hauling those were getting getting you know forty and fifty goals but you know the the equipment now is much better the Everything is much better now. The sticks are are so much better than then the wooden sticks us Back then and I just I just think that these players these players that have that have the skills and the the talent They'll they'll they'll work towards breaking breaking that That that goals yeah. Well Willie we so appreciate your time especially because you're calling in California and you can be enjoying the sunshine right now so thank you cannot wait to watch your documentary and ESPN plus on encourage all of our listeners. To do that as well. Yes I when I'm excited about about seeing it You know I'm here with my wife and and We'll definitely be watching it and I'll be telling my My friends that are here that I know here in the San Diego Mesa area and I'm sure that they'll it'll be tuned in to watching. Thank you so much really. You're welcome Sir. Emily thank you our thanks to me hall of Famer absolute icon Willie. The documentary critically acclaimed will be available throughout the February on. ESPN DOT COM. which you can of course get on your desktop or on the ESPN APP and we'll have four airings on ESPN? Two the Seventeenth Eighteenth Twentieth. And the twenty four th check your local listings but you can check that awesome documentary out on the deuce also awesome stuff emily the has come crawling back to the NHL saying nobody gave a crap about our hockey tournament. Last time and young Chang we would likely back in the NHL Business for Beijing the big news this week a meeting between the the NHL NHL Jeff there as well will the IOC willing to go back to original levels of funding for things like travel insurance housing. All the things at the US to pay for then decided not to any more on top of that loosening the restrictions on marketing rights whether it's the use of still images or video Olympic markings the ability to maybe promote and make some dough off of Olympic. Branding all of of this stuff now on the table the NHL optimistic saying hey this is what you've been asking for the NHL being like. Oh who might not still WANNA go and it's an interesting time isn't it for the Olympic. I feel if the NFL's really on the clock right now because this is everybody else calling their bluff. They've used it as a convenient. Excuse that hey. We're not getting any marketing out of it. They're not making it easy for travel insurance like all of these things. Just don't make sense for us to go and now with as you said the IOC taking all those things off the table able to like okay. Well what's holding you back. Why don't you want to go like if you WANNA show that Sidney Crosby Canada goal on NHL Dot Com do it? We're not stopping you about your big hold up and now the NHL really has to admit that this was the convening excuse. They just didn't want to go because it doesn't make data think it makes money for them which as we all I think you and I agree and I think a lot of players agree and I think a lot of fans degrees is a little shortsighted That's only looking at the direct immediate impact of the Olympics. Not The bigger girl larger picture of global outreach and appealing to more casual fans began the this is super interesting to me You see right after this happened. They'll daily the Elliot's still reiterating their point. We're not close to being there. We continue to believe the negatives outweighed the positives But the pressures on them right now. It is have a column on this on on Thursday but I find it to be a real kind of head on desk. I think for a lot of us. When it comes to the Olympics you explain I stand with the NHL in their fight against the the single most corrupt organization outside fever? And I think that they played their hand really well because the NHL said look. We don't think we get anything going to Chiang. Also the is is skimping on the money they used to give us. We're not GONNA go so a bunch of replacement players went nobody cared and the said you know what maybe we should. Just go back to the way things were so Kudos Gary Bettman and Bill Daley and everybody else for taking a stand in calling their bluff seven and now the IFC comes crawling back. That was smart and I stand with them until it comes to the point when you realize that may may be none of this is actually about the Olympics. Maybe all of this is simply them finding a pressure point to try to get the CB extension. They want they're using it as a thing where they're like well. I don't know if we should go unless we get A. CPA in place even though the CBA deadline comes after the Olympics the players are more than willing to figure out an international calendar going forward for Olympics and World Cups and Ryder Cups and all that stuff. They're less willing to tie an event that again happens before the CBA expires expires to the extension of the current CBA. And where I really really really really really get fresh with the. NHL Is that they're on the side of good and light for most of the stuff because they really should get more out of the experience than they have and then they turn around and I and they start getting it and then it's still like you know for lack of a better term playing grab ass and saying well I don't know if the owners want to go even other getting everything that they kind kinda wanted in theory so it's a real it's frustrating for someone who who has supported the NHL throughout this fight. Against the I two now realize that. Maybe it's not about Siasi. I don't think it has to be quite frank. I still think that they're using all of these things as excuses. Like I think once they turned in two thousand the eighteen and didn't go and then Kinda start selling those themselves and the owners on this idea like why were we even going in the first place. We're not getting anything out of it. You know the risk of injuries too big the you know the subject of the season too disruptive they really started believing it and that's my personal belief is now they're going to be need to be talked off the ship because they really don't. I don't WanNa go yeah. I don't believe they. They really don't WanNa go by the way I mean I just don't I cannot process the the amount of investment that they've made in the Chinese market going over there taking their product they're bringing the games they're working with the Chinese government government who has given the NHL substantial money through different corporations to bring games. They're like all of this stuff leads to a dream. Cream of Bill Daley's which is the tap the Chinese Asian markets better than the. NHL has their way behind the other sports. Insofar as figuring out a way to monetize those markets and I just don't think it would seem so counterintuitive to me to spend as much time laying the groundwork as they have their to then not bring in their product to the centerpiece of vent in Chinese sports for the next decade. Like it doesn't make any sense to me but listen it's the NHL wouldn't be the first title. Things didn't really make sense to me. Decision wise I understand what they want to shut down their season. If they do shut down their season they wanNA keep all all the prophets. I completely understand that but from a league perspective and from like you said a big picture perspective. It just seems like a no brainer to bring your product to China if if you've been trying to bring your product China and you have your product to China. Okay here's something I want to throw out there though we know that Gary Bettman and came from the NBA and is often influenced by decisions that they made including wanting to establish a presence in China. What happened with the NBA and China? The last couple months Daryl Amaury happened and that became a huge eyesore for the league and really hampered their goals there and and in many ways set back and became a huge distraction and maybe cost the league maybe millions of dollars are they risk averse in that sense. That are scared that there could be a daryl. Morey that Kinda screws it all out for them. They're like what we're playing with fire here. Maybe China's it's not as important as we thought it's entirely possible. I mean I'm not not ruling that out but at the same time it's like they're still. I mean they've still been uh digging for oil. There haven't been looking. I mean it's it's not as if they don't know the political realities of of the Chinese government and and they're still bringing games they're bringing players there and having you know guys glad glad hand fans and things like that so but I don't. I don't dispute the fact that there there are certainly some considerations of that nature when it comes to being business with the Chinese but we'll we'll say I I I tend to believe this is going to work out. I've always been optimistic that it's going to work out and never really bought the idea that we weren't going to Beijing. We'll see you. You see more pessimistic than I do. I am and mostly just because I've listened to Bill Deli and Gary Bettman for the last more than eighteen months. It's feels feels like two years now. Isn't that in posturing it's just the same things over and over again where there's drilling out. They don't WanNa go. They don't WanNa go. They called out on all their bluffs with all these deadlines boroughs IHF with Vassal saying like. Oh you've got to get us to this deadline. They call them out. They call the ballot and I just feel like they have such a stronghold on this idea that they don't like go they kind of hold all the leverage right. Now Yeah we shall see all right now. It's time for a favorite segment of the week. Phil Kessel so now. Tot Dogs now. He does not love to eat hotdogs. Weekly looking sad and straighten Edward. It's Phil Kessel hotdogs. It's the moment where each week we take a look at the hockey media and the things that are said that are dumb and the reactions actions that are made that are dumber Damien Cox has appeared in this segment many times in the appears again this week talking about the Toronto Maple leafs goaltending on February fifth after Michael Hutchinson was torched by the Rangers. This is on kyle dubious. He designed this all skill. Not We know grit team. He said two years to get back up goalie. He believes in hockey theories few others do. That's fine but if this team can't make the playoffs that's on him. I am twenty minutes later. After the leaves trade for Jack Campbell Damien Cox Davis obviously realized. You couldn't wait any longer. Campbell should be an upgrading reading goal. The Data Damien Cox. Today's later on February seventh leaf. Goalie problem not solved apparently Damien Cox the two days later on February ninth not sure about the tying goal but otherwise. I can't believe night represented a promising step forward for the leaves in dealing with their goalie changes. They looked in charge. I don't know about you but I got whiplash. I've actually wearing a neck. Brace right now I got so much flesh. So where did we land here is is answer. I think prompt promising promising step forward is where we are four days after in two years to get it back up goalie. So there you go all right now we're PUCK HEADLINES DATELINE ALBERTA BAD news for both the flames and the oilers obviously marked your Dano a week to week with a hamstring ring injury. That happened since last. PODCAST announced today as you the podcast convert gave it two to three weeks with a quad injury. He's gone back to Toronto to Rehab with his people. Not Good News at all horrible news in fact for those of us who are dying to see Convic- David in the playoffs. Can the oilers survive without. Jesus three weeks no but they can maintain status. That is quote. which is maybe you know? Split the next few games their next six games are actually in eastern division opponents after they play the blackhawks tonight on Tuesday and then when mcdavid should be back at the end of the buff is when they go against the Pacific Division again with such tight race in anyone's game. So maybe they can in starve off Total single until then But I wouldn't expect anything out of the team for the next two to three weeks or however long with David ends up being out the the oil as we do this. podcast have sixty four points tied for second in the Pacific with Vegas. Keep in mind that the Arizona coyotes are currently the team on the outside looking again and they have sixty three points to remind you how close and tight and how three bad weeks away someone could be from being on the outside looking at the Pacific Division Dateline Alex Ovechkin so he's at six hundred ninety eight goals as Tuesday two games in a row without got a goal with the world watching clearly. Emily cracking under pressure. How much money did bury trots put on the board yesterday to tell us? Alex Ovechkin is not breaking the record against us because islanders played better than I've seen them play in many many moons. Yeah one of the funniest things in that game two was just maybe one of the longest waits for confirmation on a goal that lovie potentially tipped in front of the net. They ended up giving it to John Carlson but like they can't get that that wrong right and it's it's good that they got it right as I think why no pointed out ovechkin hit seven hundred and then gets one of taken away after the game would pick. NHL So glad that happened. I WILL BE IN DENVER FOR THE CAPS next game on Thursday against the avalanche. Hopefully there to witness history but we shall see he's GonNa obviously hit seven hundred soon and I hope he does it sooner than later we could say on that sixty goal pace and they can do it when one of those games are on. ESPN plus your one of those games on ESPN plus but also could keep slicing and dicing his way into that Gretzky ski record. Oh man it's going to happen. Dateline calder trophy. All right we've been talking Kale versus Quinn all season. As of right now it. It's the status quo Queen Hughes your rookie leader in points as a defenseman. I mean mean rookie leader overall. But he's also a defendant. Calma car has the better points per game. Average by a pretty wide margin over over Quinn but are we missing the big picture here. Are we arguing about two elite young defensive. We should be talking about a certain hip swiveling goaltender in Columbus who might run through and win. The calder Elvis. Moore's Lincoln's and I don't know why no one's asked. This is question sooner. It's genius. Yeah we should be talking about him. He's probably the best story in hockey right now. And I look at the last goals won the calder for ironically or maybe on ironically Steve Mason with the blue jackets. He played a pretty much a full season. But then you've got Andrew Ray craft with the Bruins. He went twenty nine eighteen. Okay that's the full season most of these guys have full seasons but I'm trying to say But if Ovitz's as impactful as he's been I would give my vote to him As of right now he has a nine thirty evens. Rates Save percentage or a nine hundred overall save percentage rather with a two nineteen goals against average twelve five overall twenty four starts. I mean we'll see long season. Obviously I think he's kind of exerted his will into that race a little bit dateline been caught stealing. Oh look at Major League baseball with its Fancy Nancy you maybe we let the WELKER teams pick their opponents idea that they totally stole from the Southern Professional Hockey League two years ago come on you tell them yeah everything. That's great came from hockey. We know that except for the stuff we steal from the NBA. We've talked about this format before four. I think on this podcast I still I think. There's two ways look at it. One is that teams are cowards. They will just pick the team. There's a post play out of fear of making the wrong decision and God forbid you like are supposed to play the eight seed and you pick the seven seed because you think that they're going to be an easier matchup and then the seventies like what we are now really angry and then you know. Sweep you blue jacket style but where I think. This format is interesting. Thing for Major League Baseball or any sport is the idea that if there is a catastrophic injury I if if you are in the Pacific Division drivers seat and you have your choice between Arizona and Vegas and Vegas just lost flurry to injury and you have the ability to Pick Doc Vegas as your first round opponent because of that. Well I mean that. That's that's an interesting wrinkle. If you're going to have this format that I suppose picking your opponents thing I do. If they're wrinkle also includes a big prime time TV special where you can make it entertainment. I think baseball has learned in the path. That struggling for relevancy is not easy and look. They've been in the news lately for not great things but at least the relevant right. It's like a big big scandal. Were grown men are standing in hallways banging trash cans and a big trade that nobody understands. Why happened between two marquee franchises like those things are good and they keep people talking about it and if you can get a big event on Fox Primetime where you've got you know mookie Betts with the dodgers going up saying we choose to play the lowly Chicago cubs in the first round? Like that's awesome. Yeah that would be awesome. I'm actually with you even beyond that. There should be more special event type things that happened in sports. Like like one of my favorite things. Low Key in in all sports is the FETA World Cup group draw like like. That's a fun event. And I wish there was more stuff like that for like the playoffs on an annual basis to more dateline Anaheim a record crowd for the US National Women's team on home soil. Thirteen thousand thousand three hundred twenty packed the Anaheim's arena to watch our our heroes defeat Canada for three on Bacon. Bo's ex power play goal. Roll forty two seconds into overtime awesome event. Lots of people digging it and a big old crowd again for this barnstorming tour between the Americans and Canadians. I have to give credit here to the Anaheim ducks who did a heck of job promoting this event and when it comes to women's in sports promotion matters and they took this extremely seriously. They tried to get new fans into their arena. They tried to get existing fans into their arena. And I know that the ladies appreciated it and I think that should be the standard And you know I compare this to when they played in Hartford Connecticut at the Excel Centre a few months ago and like there were editors unders at ESPN ESPN. W didn't even know that event was going on which is just a shame really so I've got to give credit to the docks and this seemed like a great rivalry series. It seems like the mental going forward and They want so who who's not cinema cinema happy as they say dateline finally dateline. The Oscars Sir had literal tears in my eyes parasite one. I was so happy a love that movie. It's a perfect movie and I love that. Who made it and I love how it got made and I love that? It's somehow somehow a foreign language film with actual subtitles overcame a war movie with the British Thespians. To Win Best Picture. I could could not be happier at the results of the Oscars. What was your takeaway from these Academy Awards? Emily and I need to see parasite the uncultured idiot. Who hasn't seen it? I think a lot of people haven't seen it to be honest with you. I think subtitles scare people. There was a thread that our good friend. Katie bakes from the ringer hit me too about like should be dubbing movies versus subtitles. I think there's a large contingent the people that would rather watch a movie than have to read subtitles with the cooling up a parasite. I'm trying to tell people. Is that like. Yeah there's stuff you gotta read to keep up with the plot but it's not as if it is a constant stream of subtitles like there's a lot in the movie. That just tells the story through visuals. which is you know? Filmmaking how exciting what did you think of the Eminem drop drop in twenty years after eight mile the confused. There aren't very confused. Can you explain to me I. He didn't perform perform. When when yourself one so I guess this correct the record? I don't know it's it was a very random thing it got their start. Relevancy woke up. Some people So it's the Oscars were the Oscars. And and congratulations to all the winners congratulations to walking Phoenix for an Alzheimer Acceptance Speech. That if you had a cow insemination on your Oscar Bingo Card well boy howdy. Did you make out okay after that speech now. It's time for the rent line. Thank Greg and Emily Something tracking the holiest kind of pitches being all about the hockey world. In general is seen goal border. Every single one admits the east coast. Does this thing get nobody. Nobody does a single thing to try to correct doc. Those issues. I mean kid team start you know earlier on the East Coast to coast and later as is a rather take pat a team in the central can sail to watch the games that late people who can pay to literally watch carefully watched them the next morning. Thanks for everything first of all. Good Sir how do you know that. Emily covers the western conference has always covered the western conference. I'll have you know that I relocated to California last year so I don't know who this every hockey reporter thing is but emily and I are fighting the good fight against East Coast bias while working for a company based in Bristol Connecticut. I truly believe that I have a central time bias. I believe that central time is the best time zone. All teams that play in the central time zone have an inherent advantage so I will vote for all of them for awards. I would never vote for any west conference people for awards. I mean. There's an east coast bias not bias for all the Eastern Conference and it can in for heart Jordan Benton can get the shore. Pasture Dot Clark's Carlson. Norris to calder vitral of San based on sample size. So that's a good pick. Yes L. Key obviously Patrice Bergeron shot up to the God awed being awesome out US obviously. Yeah is there any other Toronto. Maybe you should get the soup man as the you know. He hasn't played like fifty games. But you can get him in the calder. Jackie you've both Jack. Adams is a three way tie between Mike Sullivan Sheldon. Keefe and Bruce Cassidy. Ready to get buried trots the nomination for real though I I try not to be as cynical as I used to be about the voting at a good conversation Frank Survey about cynicism the other day and vote and the voters voters I think I think people have gotten better. I think people are no longer simply just paying attention to the teams they watch paying paying attention to the Games they watch. I think that East Coast bias has eased up a little bit when it comes to the awards I think there is AH also the. Pow Way does a good job of diversifying. Its voter base to try to get as many people from different geographic areas as they can involve not just make the Boston Toronto awards awards so like I think it's gotten better is what I'm trying to say. I don't think it has to get better because like if you if your job is to cover hockey and you're never watching Connor mcdavid allies pederson like on a daily basis. What are you doing? You're not covering forty percent of the best players league so all right well I I. I don't disagree. It's a problem but I think it's gotten better as the point. Thank the rent line to the Great Williams for joining us. I'm great wishing ski. You can buy stuff in. ESPN DOT COM. I my call him. The wishlist comes out on Thursdays will be about the Olympics Issue this week also. Oh my podcast puck soup with me. Ron Ryan Lambert where we say. Naughty words is also found weekly tunes and do check that out as well and you were awesome on the daily this week I was talking talking lovie. That's a a real fun podcast to be a part of an and and As I said to me I was honored to be on because I was under the impression that it was going to be an XFL. Only podcast going forward based on her tweets responded to you. I believe we're next this whole network going forward so just an honor to be able to get some hockey in their exactly exactly the XFL. I am I'm Emily Kathleen Emily. M Kaplan follow Miss Stuff online and all I have to say his bye bye.

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What's Wrong with the Bruins & Jack Eichel Trade Chatter | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

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What's Wrong with the Bruins & Jack Eichel Trade Chatter | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

"This is March 2nd. And this is the Bruins beat on C L & S media and welcome back to the Bruins game on Ceylon s media. My name is Evan Aronofsky. You guys are having a great day a great week. I can't believe its March. It's March which is so crazy. But that just means warm weather is on the way so that obviously is a great thing a happy thing. I also want to note that if I sound terrible or sound worse than normal in this podcast is cuz I I had to come home for something and I left my mic up Faith in uh in my other house the other house I live in up in school and I forgot my mic halfway home. I was like, oh my God, I forgot my podcast mic. What am I going to do? And then I said, you know what? I'm just going to have to deal with off the laptop microphone, which is never fun. But I thought I'd note it because maybe now you'll notice it which I isn't good. But also like for those who do notice it during the show dog. I don't want like you to think what happened to Evans Mike. They used to talk about how good he sounded like, why does he sound terrible? So I don't know how I sound I'll I guess I'll hear myself when I edit it but to note. Yes. I am not using my normal Mike little Mike will be making it beloved return next week. So in this episode this was this was a fun episode Connor and I did first we talked to see what's wrong with the Bruins. What is going wrong? What what's happening? How does it get fixed? So we we try to play fixer uppers where we can kind of figure out what's going on. We're playing doctor we get to you know, see what's going wrong. And then this this I didn't expect to talk about again jack. I was a Bruins after fluto shinzawa is article in the athletic we discussed sort of what it would take to get Aiko and all that stuff. We've done it a lot but it never gets old. It's weird cuz it's just so fun to think about and there's so many little elements to it that, you know, get brought up every time. 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With Conor Ryan and we're here with Conor Ryan Conor Evans doing swell. How you doing? I'm doing well. I it's a Monday obviously recordings on Mondays and it's fun. But you know, there's no Bruins media. So it's kind of a day off. It's nice just to sit around talk some ruins, you know, watch the Irishman last night. I had a ton of time. Are you need a lot of time to watch that? So it was like 8:30 and I was like, you know what I have all this time. I've nothing to do I might as well just watch the Irish, but I've been meaning to watch it and it was good. It just was really long like that was very long. It's a very long movie. Yeah, and it's slow in parts. So it's not like it's like, you know Fast and Furious action packed like it's not like watching Goodfellas where it's idling 2 and 1/2 hours and it feels like it's like, you know ninety minutes cuz how how quick it rolls through. Its I don't know I don't care song. They're in like the retirement home. Really? No, this is so we have 40 minutes left. Oh God. Yeah. No Goodfellas. Goodfellas is way better. Like I said, I don't know if anyone would ever say the irishman's better than Goodfellas. Goodfellas was certainly better. Both movies package is going to Baris me if you were going to be angry. I've seen in the past month doesn't I've still Good Fellows for the first time this past month in February. So whenever I exactly I saw it off technically Twenty-One because my poor performer 22nd birthday. So I'm ready. I'm ready to to make the Goodfellas jokes like I did yesterday. Okay, they was worried when I dropped that out of it. I didn't know if I was found one out there, but I'm glad I'm glad you got it. Oh no. No, no. No, of course, I got that so not a great way for Bruins not a great week. I know they ended it on our early started next week Sunday. They started to walk on a good note, but not ending particularly. Well, there are a lot of problems. What was the biggest to you? Well, I mean, obviously the the one where you look at just the Optics of it right is the defense, right? I mean you give up 13 goals in two games. I think everyone get concerned about that and I think that's wrong. You see the right flag is you know, you're seeing way too many transition goals created chances in front of Rask and a lot, but the thing is is that that's always a concern. Oh shit. Like when you go that many goals. I'm sure not to spend learning but also, I mean I look at it right where I think we all are in agreement of the rooms and needs more depth on the blue. Looks like we've talked about at home last week. Like that's a guy they need right? So this isn't any surprise and when you missing three starters on your blue line, you know, including two guys in lausanne and Thursdays are good at kind of showing up that net front and girls like ew, you know as much as I think people are now the critics been hurt. I feel like there's like the The Narrative of like, oh they can they they can do well without them, you know, he's an injury-prone. Even though it's really only been kind of this year. We're didn't really really bad. But you know you miss Chris leak in his ability to get the puck out and you know, get the brake outgoing and hit those first passes cuz off these games have been stuck in their own Zone with for checking issues. So but you look at that defense, right you miss those three guys, you have back and iron in a top pairing roll and you know, yes potential. I mean we've seen multiple times we're out of something. He's big enough yet to handle some of these guys and he's been just kind of Knocked around by Chris Kreider which led to a goal. He got knocked around by Andrews Lee and pushed around which led to Chicago gets the island is so I mean you go to depleted decor and you know, you got drawn more playing like the minutes and he did not look very good. The last two games so wage. Obviously, you're shorthanded you hopefully you hope that a shorthand unit doesn't give up 13 goals, but still it's not expected. But you had to know that there was going to be some issues with your going to be giving birth. One more chance has given how the state of your Decor is. Now. What I think is most concerning is in Cassidy kind of touch on is that again? You're seeing the same issues that we've that the burdens of dealt with for the whole years. We've got way too many passengers, right? You've got the same situation where I mean Cassidy Maps out, like listen, we're going to have games we might give up four or five goals, you know, if that's the case for right now, we need offense and other guys to step up and he'll kind of carry that that burden because of the start of the year. The Bruins were rolling right thoughts were getting these 3rd. Come backs. They're winning games and a defense is looking great. But that was kind of masking the fact that you once again, we're kind of relying on Bergeron and my channel pops went to bring them out. Now the defense isn't looking so great and you still have no one else really kind of pulling the Rope. So I think that's the biggest concern is again, you still got way too many lines were not enough guys are pulling the same rope whether that be dead. You know coil broke through on Sunday, which is good. But before that it was a struggle for him, you look at the 4th Line which you know, I don't know what's up with Sean. Corellia, Chris wagon, but they haven't, you know been the same player. They've been in years past what you need from that fourth line. So I think that's a big concern just more guys aren't pulling the same rough, especially offensively cuz you need more guys stepping up right now given the fact that your defense is kind of estimated at the moment. Yeah, and and it's funny going into Sunday's game again debrusk zero five on five goals this season in his thirteen games and then Charlie Coyle had one goal in ten games in February and we had to yesterday one being an empty-netter but again, like it's it's really a book. When are these guys going to step up? When is Charlie Coyle? When is I mean again this right now and it's I think you know, I haven't seen a ton of people talking about this is like Charlie Coyle's audition to be the second line Center next year. This is essentially you know, he the Bruins really good log. Look at life without David krejci if they decide not to re-sign him and it's not looking good. This is like they says and and again, you know, he has Richie. He said Smith that's been pretty consistent through all of these games may not had a revolving door of guys that kept Smith with him. They kept Richie and the production has not been there and again like I love coil. I think he's great. I think he's great puck-possession guy think he's card on the forecheck, you know, he's a good solid Center, but you need to produce especially in the second line role. You can get away with it on the 3rd line a little bit more when the second line you absolutely need to produce and that's not there. The other ones depressed. Can we beat this one is a ground is just like there's the consistency just just there, you know, and and I think that that's and and to me, I mean, it's funny the past couple of games Jack's technique has had way more chances and he hasn't scored anything else but you you tweeted yesterday the expected goals for objective Nika right to the to the Moon right to the moon, but the secondary scoring just is not there the defense on the wage. The thing with the defense that I'm not super worried about is there almost certainly going to add a top-four defenseman at the deadline at least that's what it feels like that would be the logical thing to do. You're going to get lausanne back at some point Miller's it tough cuz it's an arena current anything. But if you can get him somewhat healthy for the playoffs that's that's a good thing and grizzly will be back at some point. Hopefully and you pointed this out. I think after weeks ago when when things were good, but they were there was there was examples of falters when the Bruins couldn't break out of Their Own Zone. It's like this is is what you missed for the guy like Bruce look like yeah, he's just effortless Zone exits and countries you don't have with without Christmas. So there's issues there's issues. But again, as you said, I think the more concerning one is the secondary scoring problem just continues and and no one knows the whereabouts no one knows where this chat is no one knows how he's doing when he'll be back. And again, that's not even you can't even really rely on that because he still has yet to score a goal. That's the thing is when he even comes back. You don't really know it song. Like you're getting this let's say was you know, Kyle Palmieri one of these other guys have been more proven scorer and he was out for a month when he's coming back. Like all right, you know, we we missed him but we know when he's coming back long as he's healthy, you know, we know we're going to get from him like you don't know under the contract come back and you know average, you know, eight points the last forty games of the Season or he could go off and all sudden have like ten goals and a 15-game stretch. You just don't really know what you have from them. And even if he's doing well, unfortunately all it might take is another high hit to head down that same path. It's the the unfortunate risk you run with some of these guys who deal with a concussion issues, but you know, it's if cautious back do you feel comfortable with him roam the postseason right? Like as your toughest exclusion YouTube he's doing well, right like even if you all a sudden he's back and that second one. I'm looks like it's rolling again all it takes when you get to you know, physical hockey and a playoff berth. I'll take this one high hit even on that was relatively harmless like the miles would one wasn't like he got like completely truck wasn't looking like that's kind of just a unfortunate kind of hand. You're dealt when you're dealing with a situation like that. That's the thing and again, you can't rely on it, you know, and it's tough because you shows that potentially shows that promise. I know when the Bruins got him last year A lot of people are like this guy is going to be the guy that sticks extra crazy and obviously a pandemic here and stuff like that, but even anyway with injuries and so, you know again, I think the you know, things will get better. You saw a secondary scoring game in Sunday's game you get secondary scoring here and there but again, you need to consistently, you know again Tampa last year in the cup going out and getting gaudreau and Coleman, you know, Coleman was a bigger signing but gaudreau was not this is crazy or not a bigger signing bigger trade, you know, gaudreau was not this big guy to get you know, and whatever was going after the deadline, but he boosted her secondary scoring game. Automatic didn't really need it. So the Bruins need to find that type of guy at the deadline and and I don't think that's like a Taylor Hall either cuz you don't I think it's it's finding the right fit, you know down heavily. I know it's an old example or a Charlie Charlie Kelly Chris Kelly. So used to the Charlie's when the oil and McEvoy went yesterday and the presser. Anyways, that's the issue with the Bruins at some point. They will pass but again the secondary scoring keep an eye out for it again Bjork. I mean go down the list York Wagner Corelli like production there so long we've we've beat that into submission. But if there's one topic that we haven't talked about enough outside Heaven that is Jack items in the Boston Bruins. Now, this was not on the this was not on the show list for Thursday going into Monday. This was not like a thing. I plan to talk about until I opened up the athletic this morning and saw a flute. Oh, right Bruins trade for Jack. I have a question mark What we're hearing about the sabre star coming to Boston and you think oh my God, what is going on here and an NHL Source said I just don't see any way. They can't be all over him talking about the Bruins being all over I called my response to that is same. Yeah. I mean of course, but I also can see how they wouldn't be all over him because of the other things that other teams have at the Bruins don't have to offer now in you know fluid was on the list. You know how good a fit I could would be and I don't think the reason the Bruins wouldn't get eichel is not because he wouldn't be a good fit. I think it's the same reason it always has as to why they're not, you know, it's it's the same narrative every single time like they would love Michael but but but and and so this is the funny part the song said when it comes to what the browser to give up it said I he said I think you're looking at McAvoy in Fredrick probably minimum minimum now, yeah, like Frederick fine wage. If you want like if the Sabres Came Calling instead, we wants to Nika like two firsts and a prospect you say yes, because again, you're getting a proven proven to LEAP Center bulb and you're trading away a a more Prospect to type player instead Nika. He has the potential but he's not there yet or Fredrick same thing like you want to take friendship Frankel like by all means but it really an influence on the list is a trade like this the Sabres I don't think we're looking to just rebuild again. They're not looking to do this whole rebuild thing again, which you probably could spark a whole rebuild with an ankle trade done. Right like you could get first and Prospects and you could do that. But again, the ankle contract is a lot but they would probably like to get someone back that they can build a nice round and there's two guys they the Bruins have McEvoy and pastrnak and you're not trading either of those guys for Jack highfill. Yeah. No, I mean again, it's one of those things where you got likely. Yep. Your cup window extends by seven eight years at a minimum, right? But you're not trading guys who are also part of what that extend a cup window is going to be right. You're not trading. You're not trading the guy young boy who very well as probably a top-five top three finalists for the Norris. Maybe the legitimate Norris front-runner right now. Like I think like I I think he's definitely top three the question really isn't is he like worthy of it? It's is he getting any attention? Yeah. Yeah people seeing that cuz again, he's not standing out of the stat sheet. He is here because he didn't last year but you know, our people are writers in La watching, you know, McEvoy shut down opposing players night in and night out. I don't know, you know, so I mean, yeah, you you're not you're not giving a pasta knock who once we hit a full season again. It's probably going to hit 50 goals or at least come very close as it's been the case the last couple of years right? So I just don't see the only the only place Way, I see an Ico trade working out would be if Buffalo is dumb enough to let this carry out through 2022 when his note no-movement Clause kicks in cuz I'm only way to ruin to get any leverage at all as if they get to the point where I go that no-movement Clause kicks in he goes to Buffalo as like, all right. I'm only going to go to Boston. Like that's the only that's the only way it's going to go and or even a case where he blocks trades. It seems that have a lot more assets. So whether that's I think Pluto methods like Minnesota where they've got like kept resolved and a few other guys took a train. Yeah or a few of those teams out west, you know, that could be rebuilding like the Kings or the the Ducks. You just want to go to the West Coast or you don't want to go to New York which would seem like it makes a lot of sense as a place you'd want to go. But if he didn't he blocked a trade their then Buffalo's has had his hand side, but for right now, it's just an open bidding and if it's an open market wage You know the the Bruins don't have much of a chance at all. They already didn't have it anyway, but now that but even if they did throw over like off a crazy trade it's not involving McEvoy posturing. Let's three first-round picks like for prospects like the bruskin Kalo and like a crazy Hall. I know it's jump in and probably match that with fewer players, but with higher Talent right like would've La does, you know by field and you know other first or Anaheim has a grass like any of these guys are younger who are on the cusp of like, you know stardom or or something like that. Like I feel like even then Buffalo probably rather have those guys then take a few first from Boston. Where do you add to that next? So taking away from a lot of its Ki Kore you're going to get a couple of 25th overall picks the next couple of years, right? Like we'd rather have that I'd rather have what you could get from a team like the King's dead. Of the Ducks. So yeah, it's not going to happen to the Bruins unless you get to a point where the the Buffalo Sabres get that no-movement Clause kick in and then I go kind of dictates the terms but I would imagine Buffalo would trade him before them. But also Buffalo seems like it's completely incompetent. They can't even get their story straight as to whether or not equals hurt. So that that whole friend just seems like a shitshow. So maybe gets to that point where they think, you know at this point. They're they're running towards forgetting the first overall pick I could see them have this narrative or it's like, all right. Well we suck this year again. I you know, we've got Ike only got deleted all these guys, but, you know, we'll get the first round. We'll get the first overall pick we'll get that Owen power kid from Michigan g-core is going to look great, even though I coaches can coach Darlene who's supposed to be like the best team in Prospect in ten years so I can see them doing that sticking around and then there's all going to ship next year. So we'll see never but never down. Buffalo to not screw up a good such a situation where they at least have some leverage right now cuz I could see that totally happening. I mean the obvious thing is you deal Hall at the deadline for as many as long as you can get you're not going to get ready for him cuz he is a pending UFA and he's having a good year. I mean, yeah that gamble worked out for him. Right just ask just ask my fantasy team. He's absolutely sucks right now you want to win though. So at least he's winning. He's winning. Yeah good for Taylor and all winning. He's winning the lottery technically. That's I guess so that is a win. That's a way across but I know I mean, it's funny. I I tweeted about the icons of the Bruins thing and some people are replying. You know, I love people when they when they reply krejci as the centerpiece of a deal. I think we talked on poke the bear like Rangers and is an older guy expiring deal probably doesn't want to leave Boston. There's no there's not a lot of trade value there and it's not like if you had if you've never cut yet and he was off. Shity team like then maybe yes, like you could feel himself somewhere from to go chase a cup. But he has a cup like it's not yes. He's good a Democrat. She's fine. But most people were against dealing for dealing knocked boil pasta drunk. But I mean you think about it like if you trade it, let's say let's say it's a one-for-one deal. Let's say you do 141 Charlie McAvoy for Jacqueline. Are you better? No. No, I don't think you are because you because again, you know, you'll have burst Run for the next couple of years, maybe Sydney could turns into you know, a top-six center. At least that's what he projects. Do. You also have Charlie Coyle who, you know supposed to project into a top-six center and your Frederick you feature in the system. They expect something out of you don't have that next franchise defenseman, you don't and and again you it's so hard to just draft one. It's so hard to just go out and get a franchise defense then birth. We're not saying franchise centers are easy to find go ask the Canadians. But again, you do have options Center. I don't know. If you don't on defense home. You don't you don't have a franchise defenseman? No, I mean, I think you get to the point where it's one thing to draft a guy like even Kalo hoye think it's to pass out of expectations as being a legitimate top Force shutdown guy off and if someone wanted to trade McEvoy, I'm sure you have someone reaching through, you know straws and having the argument of like well, we've got Jack of Sean on the way. We've got nice and Laura home open up the USHL. It's like it's all great and good but I'd rather have the surest of sure bets than a guy like McAvoy who's gonna win a Norse at some point and then add those guys to the match your Decor even better than trading away. The guy who's going to Anchor your D cor for 15 years for a guy that is great guy goes a superstar, but it's not helping out your cause right now like wage. You know desperately needing a center and have to rebuild on the fly like you're trying to max out and extend this current cup window and trading arguably the best top 5 team has been in the league form isn't really helping your cause that much like it's you know, it's a shame cuz you know, I go makes so much sense for the Bruins in terms of just what where he would fit and how he would help out this song but in terms of just the overall assets, it just doesn't make any sense because you're not going to get him for you know, mortgaging the farming cuz one you you can't really mortgage the farm long as you don't have the assets to sway it over another team that might be desperate for it. Right? There's so many other teams. I think a no-bid you unless you include pasta and and or McEvoy and I will go off but I do I do think that when you when you I mean I mean posturing if you trade in Poshmark Reichel again, like Fifty goal caliber Wingers do not grow on trees like that is so hard to find and I mean obviously, you know, you have a little more impact on the ice when you're a top-line center. They may do as a Top Line Winger, but again, like Puffs truck is your go-to goals for you know, how many teams around the league you know long it's been since the Bruins had to go to goal scorer but forever. Yeah forever. So moved it all like you have that go-to rolls for don't give it up for you know, Michael. I mean the only guy you could push back up for me said this couple of weeks ago or like a week ago whenever pilgrimage were talking about it. It's like McDavid or McKinnon like that's that's really the only way you would ever do that Idols Elite, but you don't do it. Also, the other thing is and we haven't mentioned this Buffalo trading cycle within the division. Yeah another another bit of a roadblock. Yeah, that also would not work out well, but it's fun to consider. It's always fun to consider like the Jack eichel stuff, but caught her before I let you go. Is there anything that you would like to place? Yeah, we're going to be bringing down a couple of things looking at some of the positives from that someday win, which hopefully they can build off of so, we'll have all that over at the XJ subscriber Boston Sports channel. Com. And if you want to follow me on Twitter, you can do that at, Ryan underscore 93 go to all of that and for stealing this medium Aronofsky you bruise be listeners. Have a great rest of your week.

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5/4/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 1 (6am-7am)

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5/4/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 1 (6am-7am)

"I'm john mitchell. Welcome to fate a fact season. This series is about how and why fact became a casualty of war in the united states. Please listen and follow fate of fact a presentation of shining city audio jon. Truman c thirteen original studio available. Now for free on odyssey apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Good morning boomer. I know how you are not good angry. Note i will say this though. The next held another team under one hundred points and he's late night. Games are killing me. That i did end up going over but that and and the agitation that that i have going into that game i think we need to put jewish ran on ranger uniform. Actually show some toughness but yeah a couple of things a couple of things number one. Tom olsen should be kicked out of the league and should not be allowed to be played. play in this year's playoffs. There's absolutely no way it's a disgrace. It is an absolute black eye on on the nhl. And i'm sick of it and i think most. Nhl fans are sick of it and the crap that he pulled last night against my team. Who's you know out there Icecapades selves around the ice. Like it's it's a it's a thing of beauty. As opposed to the grid you know now gets hammered twice now by two teams that are headed them in the playoffs and they're out of the playoffs now because the bruins one last night they beat the devils. But so i have. I'm so picked off at this guy. By the way that he plays in the fact that the capital put out a tweet last night said violence and then all of a sudden had to take it down because they were getting hammered. Tweet and idiocy. That's associated with it look. I'm all about the neanderthal. Get you out to play physical. You wanna play gritty. Some would say that. My son in law is an anglo but my son in law plays within the rules. He respects the game respects the other pliers and even if he doesn't mike somebody he's not gonna do something cheap where he's going to go after somebody and swim their head into the ice about punching navid twenties down on the ice and assigned to the head. I know this is not like mainstream sports. Talk and all this other stuff but it is when you see it and you look at it and you know the perpetrator in this case tom. Wilson has already been suspended five times. And i mean it's got suspended earlier this year for a hit on carlos defendant for the boston bruins for seven games suspended if he is not taken out of the league. And you know it doesn't affect my team anymore because my team's not in the playoffs. There's some bit should be. Add the league out enough. I don't think forever or the rest of the season look is coach. You know after the game they asked him about it and you know. I don't know what coach is supposed to say. All i know is that the coach were the coach of the other team. He'd be pissed off. Of course no. Because he's the coach of his team. He's going to let it fly and even the micheletti last night Valiquette last night. You know all the people covering the game last night all said the same thing. I turn it over to the radio to listen to don and don maloney kenyan domino's when even they said the same thing i mean everybody knows that what. This guy is a habitual offender. And it's going to end up killing somebody. At least that's what larry brooks wrote in the paper day because he could've slammed pinera new ways all about one hundred sixty pounds down the by the way for him to abuse our best player that way and then have nobody react. Kinda shows you where my team is while strom strom reacted when something like flies out there. Compared to like a tyrannosaurus rex. I understand but nobody nobody on this team. That is going to do anything. I got eighteen and nineteen year olds running around out there. I got glorified. Ahl team playing defense. I got the best defensive player that we have or the most says best but the the most senior defensive player we have thrown the puck in front of his net last night. I mean it's a mess. Ever since the matt morton hit in the first island or game a week about ten days ago this team is like a shell of itself. Afraid and i understand. They have injuries but soda soda. So the capital's capital soon for their top players. So here's the thing in the off season enough. We got enough skill. You better start finding somebody that it's going to react and react the right way. This is why this team doesn't have a captain. They have all assistant captains. There's no tapped in on this team because nobody has the ball. So be the captain. Yeah well. I think that that sort dan. This is about my team thing. Yeah well that that's something that they'll have to address in the off season officially limited from the playoffs yesterday. But really to me. It's about it. Does the nhl have the guts have spend. That's because the capitals even hurt. Sam say last night with micheletti on the broadcast that you know if you talk to the caps players in the organization you know they love this guy. He's a leader and blah blah blah. And this team's going into the post season so will they have the guts. Now i've seen them feel about this guy way. I've felt about john randall. On guys out a guy just a little bit little tough guys out the hurt. Somebody on randall was never suspended by anybody. In the guy was hall of famer. That was back that was back in. I mean we're talking to. Let's compare it to some guys that are actually in the nhl one guy that popped into my head. Was matt cook. Mac cook was someone who for whatever reason who was a view talked to him straight. You and matt cook. You'd think he was the greatest guy in the world family man hockey player but something snapped in his brain when he was out on the ice when things weren't going his way and he throw elbows guys temples and he would do all sorts of dirty stuff and the nhl had to come down hard on him and suspend them for playoff series. Now the nhl also by the way us has a reputation of only suspending guys harshly. When someone is injured they don't look parents done for no. He's done for the season couple of games. But i just hoped on because this to me because but you know already been suspended seven guys ready and listen. I'm with you on all of this. But i'm afraid of nhl being pussyfooting around this. That's what i'm afraid of like. It should always be intent not result of injury because pinera could have been ten times worse than he was going to be knocked out. I mean he's laying there and he's getting punched in the side of the head defenseless. It's two guys on one play. Yeah guys on one play. What else to tell you. Who's he fighting against. Who's he going after i. He's going to have to arranger in red white and blue jersey. It's probably a very nice person and is got perfect manners and doesn't want really hurt anybody but Yeah it's a whole nother story. Like i said that's something for the offseason for the rangers of bigger out and figure it out very quickly because what we've learned about the rangers is that when you play against teams that actually do have a physical presence which all fourteen in front of them in this particular division. Have a basically run roughshod over the entire team and there's nobody react. Nobody there's nobody. Does that even even like even if chris kreider out that he's not gonna react. You know it doesn't matter you know. Maybe baby jacob trooper would react. But he's you know he's not going to play in the rest of the year most likely. You're actually confident that the nhl is going to do. They have to asking us. How right there. What do you think they will. They better suspend them for the they better. But you know that there's a chance they need suspend him for the entire whatever. Their playoff run is enough is enough. It's one thing. If it's the first time i can even i can even if it's a second time and it's the other teams agitator if you will have an edge agitated anybody go i mean. Hey what applying the garden. Come on in skate around. It's nice here look at this. It's beautiful great. Look lookin coach. Everybody looks fine and we're great everything. Don't even start now. Have a tom wilson to after his jersey's off in the penalty box he stands up and starts doing things maybe the key then the organization emboldens him with the tweet after the game. Thinking that there's something okay with that. I mean it's a fine line between being physical in this. I understand but this is just anybody who's ever i mean and i'm not watches much hockey as i used to. But anybody who's ever watched. The nhl understands that this is about as humanly possible. You have a guy that's been suspended five times you. You have a guy that was suspended. Seven games this season. Four something that that was bad and it was bad. Yeah it was bad against boston. There's no question about that. This is ridiculous. This is like goon stuff. This is broad street bullies. Right you go back to the dopey flyers of the seventy s those idiots. I mean so now you have this and this is almost like slapshot your the guns and this guy in really the sad thing about all but guys actually turned himself into a pretty decent hockey party. Doesn't have to do crap like this but it doesn't have to but he does and you i looking at the social media world. Last night i saw a lot of even non ranger fans talking about how. They're tired of it now. I don't know whether or not their teams may end up playing against the capitals in in the playoff. So you never know how that's gonna work out but you know this this is just reprehensible it's embarrassing and it's an a repeat offender so when you think will find out about the discipline. I don't know if they'll call a man. I you're going to find out to me. This is one of those things you really need to call them and talk to him about it. I mean this is one of those deals. If the nhl is all they told you aren't a short leash man who came. So let's see. I and i've watched other games. They have played on national tv where every time he's involved in something. Whoever is doing the game is saying that he's on a short leash that he has to watch him. Let's see the guts. Then let's see let's see from. There's no reason to even wait. It should happen before off the air today. It should capitals will argue that the rangers were reacting. Well the rangers reacted to one thing and one thing only and that was him throwing bouche navid on the ice and pounded them on the ice when he's down and that's what the rangers. That's what the rangers reacted to. And then he got up and then he grabs him by the hair and then throws them on the ground like a rag doll. Yeah i don't know what to tell you other than that. The guy has attic is completely out of control right and someone who's a liability for the nhl. He is so the nhl as we talked. Many times doesn't get the type of coverage and it's going to improve their new. Tv deal that some of these other sports do last night. Now this is thrown into the forefront. So like everybody's going to see this. They're not going to see some of the skill in the league or this guy scoring a goal or that or this. They're not going to see so much that they're going to see tom. Wilson doing this and the nhl hates that they hate that that is going to be on display. nhl would rather have every team play like the rangers. Nice real fancy and make nice passes and and look good in your uniforms and make sure that your neatly quaff when you're helmets off. That's all great but that's not the way the game is played but the game is played somewhere between what tom wilson did in somewhere where the rangers are. The game has gotta be played in the middle of that. And i thought that's what the islanders showed the rangers. This is how you play you. Play defense gave up four goals. So the lowly sabres brutal but this is just it adds insult to injury for a ranger fan because there was a time where i knew they had to get off to a good start. They didn't they had a nice middle of the season. There was a nice little run there against the bed teams which was fine then they had a bad loss of buffalo another bad loss to philadelphia and then they get their asses kicked over the last three games. I mean literally ass kicked and they have a lot of kids running around out there on the ice and it's all about now the kids and all the kids that's why we're losing because we got this kids point. His first game. That kids wanted his first game. And by the way. Adam fox got us up reading the headlines about how great i mean. He's like a two on waiting to happen because he's always pinching now he's gotta learn and it's frustrating because now it's three years in a row that were that we're still learning and you know it's three years since you know the infamous letter that were i remember man. I was sitting right next to. I told you the day. I told you the day i said you know what it's one thing i understand okay. This guy's getting better. That guy's getting better. You can see the skill but it's another thing getting run over by the islanders and getting run over by the washington capitals and your frigging building. Because you know what these teams thank you. Do you think that you saw think push around. Yeah that's the thing. Yeah they got infuriated it. It just absolutely drives me crazy. Yeah i mean tom. Wilson did that last thing because he thought he could get away with it. That's why you know so and we'll see to me. There's no reason to wait. The nhl has got to react right away. They play again in two nights or another night. But i just it's for for the ranger fan of watch out last night man. this is just. This is like abusive behavior. This is like a we. Don't care who you are. We don't care what building you plan. Where kicking your ass and you are taking it. Yeah all right. We'll have of this how we'll take a break your cool down a little bit. Then we'll scream about how the mets laws. There'll be plenty more talk about with tom. Wilson did as a show rolls on. We also have some good stuff. A frigging for instance new england or can i mean i mean you know striking out now. Not being number one. Get out of the tool whole. He does not belong in there. Are you aware of. I mean to me. I is that even analytics anymore. It's all see it well. You fire the hitting coach tonight. You know maybe maybe that arkham of course it always works whatever. But here's the thing until he starts hitting again. He is an automatic out and in some cases. He's a double play waiting for his last twenty. Twenty two twenty two. So you know. that's another thing. Go from this game tech game and finally just watching knicks at least somewhat satisfying. How would they the savior. They leave the bar the same upside down. They are somehow the savior. Jon meacham the host of cadence thirteen new podcast fate of fact on how america and its political parties. Got to where we are today available now on odyssey apple podcasts. 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I don't think the rest of us are real star wars fanatics that's the fullest with you right the force. What do you mean. Four hundred sixty eight four four five six. may the force never source star wars movie. You got a lot of those man. I tell you and then later on. We'll see how he is now. The expert on store. Oh of course the you know. The someone talked to back newsroom. All of a sudden he turned the george lucas garner gunners huge star wars guy. They may darcy dress up as the hell was she. Stormtrooper fifth layer princess leia. Right exactly for for halloween like three years ago and then all of a sudden now. She's like a star wars geek alaska. She wasn't into it before they met now. And then all of sudden dress ups came man all halloween parties and all that other stuff. Yeah you know. i'm jealous. People who are that into things like that i am. I don't look at them as i go. That's a nerdy thing to do. Whatever i think people were like that can suspend reality that much dress up to go to a movie about how 'bout comecon. Yeah that's great. Yeah comecon the furry haris. Yeah why not. People think that animals and they dress up and going litter boxes in hotels and stuff. What yeah all right. The jerry recco is here and there was a lot going on last night. Jerry people getting fired people getting thrown to the ice the knicks winning again so well. What do you got for us. All right guys. We are brought to you by winters. Brothers waste system's long island's number choice for all your waste collection and recycling needs visit winters b. r. o. s. dot com. Where you wanna go guy getting fired. You want to start with the knicks. You guys did a lot of the rangers. I'll get to that to which one you want. Let's keep the negative role in. Why not. I'm feelin our fire and hitting coaches and losing games all right so the mets did both last night pitch o.'neil lines to our left center that's basin that's going to score. Diong he rows third comes home. O.'neil heads for second. Tom and expense grow is late sliding rbi. Double for tyler. O.'neil cardinals take the lead. It's six to five and that is wayne randazzo. Wcbs eight eighty six five. We were in the third inning. That was the final score. No more runs the rest of the way of saint. Louis takes the first from the mets last night nolan. Arranhado did of the game tying three run homer prior to that joey. Luke ac tariff. I mean this stupid her. She has a pitch for eleven days. Hand awful one hundred rhyming. Exactly yeah Louise roe is things were okay. And then they weren't having great. Things happen to outs. Gigi salmonella been warm up but not getting time before everything everything happened. Here was luke. Adam wainwright was a great either. No he was in and If if francisco door would just get one key. Hit about one. Hey let's take. he added. Start small you got to move managed to hold don't you jerry come on man. He's batting one. Sixty one right. Sounds like a two hitter to me. Hey let's give him a three hundred and fifty million and the way. It does look good right now. I understand that they will turn it around. I it well. This has been a rough twenty three games though it has version. Yeah here's lucchessi. Not exactly what he expected. Jim this game feeling really good. And i don't know i felt really well but wasn't new was not to. He got screwed there a couple of times more foul tip. That wasn't it. Also pull are almost made a great catch to end the inning and didn't on the foul tip thing i i shouldn't say he got screwed because apparently almost neto said after the game that he did need erin auto hit the ball with the bat in the small. You can't even frequency the ball move in slow motion but those guys heard it. Our nado hurt at the hurt nido heard it so whatever off the go with that and then bang gone seal later pretty much and see you later is exactly what they did to lucchessi and see you later. is also. We're going to say chili. Davis and tom slater. They didn't coach and the assistant hitting coach. They were fired. We always fire guys when we're on the road. Haven't they ever figured that out. Like just fire the guys when they're at home at least weren't across the country this time even even this ownership doesn't get it. I mean just five guys at home. I mean you're gonna fire him. Did you hear the gm. Some of the stuff that was from zacks. Our job is to support the players. Put him in position. Succeed is baseball operations group and we just felt like the players needed a different level of support a paycheck. Go check about this. Maybe we heard a rod on sunday night baseball. We figured that he was right. Because watching francisco indoor warm up before the game and go through batting practice was not the right way to approach this. A different level of support is what j. Rods comments had something to do with it. I don't know if it did or not. But i mean the the process. He threw that out. That in this Call the process four every general. I was the real process guy. Well lucky for you. You guys got cuanto bomb. Yeah quavo bomb. That's your new hitting coach quantum bomb. The mets made up a name. That sounds more realistic. Maybe that's also has something to do with it. You see a lonzo is selling dude's name. The made up the guy. I already donny. Mark no johnny. Dean wasn't hansen. Who stevens donny. Stevens alonzo selling donny. Stevenson shirts and maybe that had something to do with it. Maybe like they're saying don has something to do with it. I i actually think it's a There must be some fan out there. That is either tweeting. These players could be a million fans for that matter. And they're all overland door and all that other stuff so in the players. Mind that there's some fat guy that sitting at a bar that is really you know making them better hitters. And that guy's name is donny stevenson. You think that's what it is. That's where it comes from my big inside info falling this you just piece together in your listeners. Credit evan like they were trying to figure out exactly where this is. All coming from. And i was just thinking like if you're an athlete in that locker room and you guys are getting hammered and i mean lindores getting hammered. He is getting booed already and those players are like very sensitive these days so i would think that that could be a i can made up met fan johnny stevenson. Who's sitting at the bar tweeting at somebody in. Maybe it's just a metaphor for that. Yeah what about quantum pots. What about him where you come from this guy come from. They hired him this past year in the minor league hitting coach. He's part of the new regime right. Where chili davis was a holdover right. I don't know where he came from. Prior to that. I'm not sure what organization guy waddell bomb came from. Oh i did read this wonderland. Now know the padres as he was with another. Maybe the as i forget i gotta look. He's only forty two okay so maybe quantum can turn them around. I don't know. But the mets eleven and twelve on the season. You got degrom facing johan oviedo tonight in saint louis yankees back at it they take on the astros yankees fourteen and fourteen houston fifteen and thirteen dimicco herrmann. Zack greinke the starters. Brigham coverage on the fan game coverage full game coverage on sports radio sixty six wfan am also of note. Yesterday phillies did beat. The brewers four three as of the blue jays. Five four tough night for stephen matt's took the laws jed lowrie three for four with an rbi. Double for oakland. Come on this. Is this what he did. I mean you're all over this guy. I find it very interesting. I will say that raise. Beat the angels. Seven to three tyler glass now six innings for the win and dodgers pitcher. Dustin may having tommy. John surgery today. I did not see that Before this morning Nba will get to the good and that would be your knickerbockers. Forget the four seat. Hell let's go after the three. Why the hell. Not mike breen tells the story in the final seconds on. Msg with this win. The knicks will clinch their first winning season in eight years. Improve to thirty seven and twenty eight with just seven games to go. And the knicks are now twelve and one in their last thirteen games and remain in the fourth spot in the eastern conference with seven games to go almost incredulous there at the end. That's right. they've played great thirteen of sixteen as well as they win. One eighteen one four- so they've taken the first two on this six game road trip. Julius randle at twenty eight. Derrick rose outstanding with twenty. Five here is coached. Sibito played well against a good team on their home floor attacking the pain. You're you're you're water thing. They did it. Well aren't sluts. Still the classic. Would you sign for boomer. Nuggets sons clippers lakers de assigned from one in three in those next four. I like to see too but I just wanted to take. I wanted to get one possession. One quarter one half one game. I understand well. They played the son's really tough that before they lost at the garden the nuggets. of course. We'll actually the lakers beat the nuggets last night. I think he did. Yeah it is correct. I will say. I lost their point guard. Yeah i mean this is this is gonna be a didn't play last night either to back and anthony davis was like flexing calf and it doesn't look good over there Philly did beat chicago one. Oh six ninety four so philly leads brooklyn by one game now for the top spot. You've got new york in denver tomorrow tonight. The nets are in milwaukee again on the fan at seven fifteen. Also you mentioned the lakers. The final score that game ninety three eighty nine over the nuggets and lebron is getting clobbered on social media for that whole play intake because apparently march twentieth of last year he was discussing. How the teams that are. Seven eight nine. They should have to battle it out. To get was the guy who came up and so people have. It's screen shotted. And they're basically tweeting at him with the video from him. Two days ago thing to remember they're playing seventy two game season so where they make. Most of their money is going to be in the playoffs from tv so they basically cut the season down ten games and now they added this play in series. Because it's worth more for tv and it's worth more for the players goo goo just doesn't wanna bees. He was slipping. Where y senate it hypocritical. Good for everybody else but not us. Yeah he's been out for eight weeks anyway. The i know but you know where it comes from. He's saying because he doesn't want to fall into the one game playoff you know. He's this team is slipping. He's freaking out about it. He doesn't wanna come down to one game and he's going to bitch about it so you ever came up with. It should be fired. But i think it might have been him. That came up with my very well could have been right now. They're in the fifth spot but they are only one game out of seventh. That's how close portland is to them. Dallas is a half game behind them. Portland is one game behind them. So you do have that Also speaking of the blazers. They lost the hawks last night. One twenty three one fourteen and then. Also the wizards beat the pacers have about the score. One fifty four to one forty-one russell westbrook fourteen points twenty one rebounds and twenty four assists in finance position. You got to be able to make somebody around you better. And i feel like i take a lot of pride in effort energy and time and watching film and to be able to make others around. Better four assists. They've had a bad an unbelievable run their to the next head. There's thirty and thirty five now. I think i'm trying to find it. Yeah their last twenty games. I think that they finally figured it out. I love russell westbrook. He's the mvp. Yeah they are right now. Intent three full games ahead of toronto. So they're going to be in the plan. This run is put them into postseason. Play if you will To the rangers. Let's get to this mess. last night. They lost the capital six three. That's one part of the story. Sadly the other part is that also doing right. Great question. sam rosen. Joe micheletti on. Msg just no place for this. This nonsense that happened. Espn has Bhishma vich down has got his. These gotta say one hand on the back of his head the other one is pounding away is dislike and then of course the rangers responding and then i think you know preparing comes in. They're jumping in like a fly on. Don wilson's easy. I know these a moron. This whole this whole arms out flexing thing i mean. He's a maniac. Lost his mind. Anything you know the organization building in emboldening him. They say that. Right after the game with the twitter account Just shows you. They love it. They love it over there to grow. It also goes to show like the different medias too. So i went and found peter laviolette. Post game yeah. Any lee spoke for five minutes. Do you know it was the last thing he was asked about really. Yeah and now unless they unless they started the video after he discussed it. But i don't think that's the case it was. The last thing they talked about so here was the question. It was at the very end of the The zoom meeting was kind of physical. Play that no not not much there. What was your view. I thought it was just scrum. Like physical and then he continues to go on. I mean i'm reading between the lines but it almost sounds like he's blaming the rangers for starting the whole thing. There is something going on originally with the you know the goalie in the jamming at the goalie and we had a hunch players jump in there happens. Yeah okay happens a lot. Sure does and by the way the way that the question was asked to the physical play. Not much there leading. Maybe you can find something. I'd like to hear quinn had say here's david quinn's is nothing new at this clown. You saw what happened and time and time again and again rather than just the stolen necessary and it's It's just y'all saw what happened. And it's just She's zero respect the game and players and everybody involved meek as bennett. Jad also with reaction. I don't know. I don't know why why i'm just four. Yeah so whatever. Rangers were officially eliminated from playoff contention with the loss. And the bruin shutting up devils. Three other it's and the sabres double the islanders. Four to there you go. That zack martin singing. I think it was yes whom it looks less than pleased right now. Was that something that you had for a while. You had recorded just for this moment. No no we we did. A bunch of us are some people who no longer work here have been recorded is going to save. You went out of your way to get zack martin to sing. It's over for this moment. That would have been one real screw job there but okay very good. It's over boomer. You knew that. I do that to you on the vikings lost. I do anything i think i played that. I think you're emboldening these guys. Oh you okay. Maybe but i don't care as much as you do about it so it doesn't hurt me more about the viking. I'm not as much they. I know they're going to lose that. Make fun of it. When the vikings lost you could now that i didn't okay 'cause i know bothered you know it didn't really. It really does not real fem. That basically not. Oh no not anymore. No i've got bigger priorities than bunch of guys who were younger than me. Running around making gazillions of dollars to lose all the time. So when you have a family you have a different perspective on things. You know what. I'm saying so anyway. I'm sorry for your rangers That they're out of the playoffs. But it's good for us because we won't be talking about it as much each morning show with boomer esiason and greg boomer and geo i was doing some swaddled bomb googling after trying to figure out where he was prior to joining the mets organization this past year and now being promoted to hitting coach after the mets decide to fire. Chili davis right after the offense wakes up. But anyway. So hugh quavo bomb was with the seattle mariners. Hugh quantum obama's on twitter. He doesn't tweet a lot but he's on twitter. Joined in may of twenty eighteen. And you know who. Hugh cuanto bombs. Avatar picture is on twitter. It's a picture of somebody. Seattle mariners picture of somebody. Who could that be ken. Griffey junior a good guess. That's a good guess. Not ken griffey. Junior john olerud no it's journal A suzuki each rosa's no it's not each euro. It is not your martinez. Not edgar martinez. Yod eight is none other than the great one of the best. We've seen robinson cano. That is twitter avatar. Funny is that like why is a guy like waddell bomb on twitter tweet a lot know it just gives fans a place to go and just scream at him. Get off of it if i were advising zac. Wilson for instance don't be on social media to offer social media man. Just worry about one thing right now and that is becoming the best quarterback you just sacrifice the next two years to become the best quarterback that you can become. Don't don't get involved in any of that crap. No matter how much you think you wanna be a part of it. How much me. Just stay off of it. Yeah i mean. He has only tweeted twice since november and the last tweet was a tweet he was on. Somebody's podcast and you re tweeted that podcast. Of course he was on. somebody's podcast. Quavo bomb play somewhere. I believe that he did. Yeah is a picture of him in a baseball uniform. Making a catch. I don't know where that was. But the media page or something. I don't know if he's got a wikipedia page. I'm pro baseball reference. Hugh quadrille bomb. I did find his linked in. Does kind of neat these abbreviations. Hq that's neat. Yeah kind of neat q. What would you call them keel. Yeah quavo quat stor. That's what i call them. The the big quat. He's a big guy six four to five big. Hq baby so. Quantum obama career minor leaguer. So he played in only onta. Sometimes those guys make the best coaches yeah. True choi davis's a great player at one point in time for his coach. Guys lacombe but only janta western michigan lakeland and then he was opened ottawa. And frederick so quantum a wrote a book apparently to quad bombing. Yeah so he's he's the new hitting coach. We'll see we'll see or do you really believe a hitting coach. A major league baseball makes that much impact. I think coaches do make impact coaches. Did i think all coaches do every sport. You know maybe. With the exception of the head coach in the nba. Well what about tom. Pivotal this year. Well i think he has definitely made an impact and simply because he. He's got a motivated superstar in julius randle. He's got a rising young star in Rj barrett and then. He has says somebody that he basically has gotten something out of that. nobody expected. And that's derrick rose. Yeah i mean. But i think that a lot of that derek pivotal go way back. So sorta taj gibson who started last night and new orleans was brought in for different reasons to robinson's been hurt. You know outburts has been great. And don't he got hurt last night again. yeah. I think he got hurt. Hopefully that's not too bad. I think if you're a super team you don't need a head coach because you saw. What steve kerr and the warriors and luke walton was in even lose a game barely right. I mean i think. That's where i still think coaches definitely have impact as long as they had the respect of the players in every sport for that matter and i don't know maybe they lost respect for chile. I don't know so you really think that quavo bombs got a shot at coming in here and turn this thing around for the mets. You think the big quad gonna come right in here and next thing you know. Mets are gonna skyrocket average. Six runs a game. I mean i think hitting coaches. It's really about the individual. I mean don't you think francisco been told just about everything but again sunday night. They were showing francisco endure in batting practice. An era just went off on it and said this is not what i would be doing. He's struggling i'm not. I don't have him swinging for the fences in in batting practice and all that stuff so there isn't approach that is taken and maybe quavo bomb. We'll have a different approach when he is talking to franscisco endure. Maybe that's what this whole thing is about. That's all. I don't know how that relationship i'm just thinking that's if you're wide receiver and you have a wide receiver coach and wide receiver. Coach is telling you how to run routes how to get into route how to get outta routes. You know what you're looking for. How you're trying to read defenses and things of that nature. Maybe that's exactly what the hitting coach is doing for the baseball player. All right. let's take a couple of calls tom. Wilson going absolutely insane on boots knavish and pinera and last night should be suspended for an extended period of time. It's amazing to me. Capitals broadcast didn't say a word about of thought there were no issues with it. The capitals media barely asked about it after the game. The coach said. Oh yes not much there. You know what. I mean stuff happens all going to say that because they know how come on there but they know he's on a short leash and that he can get suspended and then half the league is going to be screaming for it. We think that's fine. You know what i'm saying like you think everybody's watching this is stupid. You don't see it. I mean david quinn said it right. We all saw in the nhl is gonna see. You can't just brush this under. The rug is not not video of this everywhere. I saw one video of this morning. It's got almost a million views when you think the last time that an nhl game from the night before there was a play or a moment and then a million views overnight. You doesn't happen. He's throwing around the nats of the rangers. Yeah that's a that's an issue just took. Your best player slammed him to the ground by. Could you imagine if arranger did that ovechkin well number one. They wouldn't be so bad she wouldn't allow it. Yeah or sidney. crosby right. He wouldn't allow it either. Or i don't know if honors lee was healthy at that he wouldn't allow it either all right. Let's go to riley in bridgeport connecticut. What's going on riley. Hey how you doing. what's happening. Great in middle island is going on. Anthony guys boomer preface. I'm an island. A fan and i was watching that because his in between periods of the alma game. I was interested in the game. My blood was boiling. What what needs to happen with this guy boom forget about the league suspending them so in the league needs to take matters into their own hands with this guy. Way clark gillies did the dave schultz in the seventies. That needs to happen to this guy. 'cause this guy's a punk and a boeing and and someone needs to take one at him and do some serious damage. I know anthony. I know i understand. You're thinking that's how i used to think when it was back in the seventies and it was the broad street but they played like this guy like an idiot but the nhl is not that nhl anymore in the nhl. Doesn't want that. As much as i would love to see my son in law. Go after the guy. It's not what they want you know. They're trying to get away from this kind of crap. Oh you know what that means. Though that means that if the players believe that the nhl didn't do enough and they'll go after then they will. So that's why the nhl has to do more. Brian shirley my walk up to slap him in the face. I don't know before. In pre-game warmup. Or something i have no idea because there's nobody on the rangers that will do anything now. One thing i feel like you're bothered by that than the fact that tom wills did what he did. I think you're more disappointed in your team in your angry tom wilson. I'm angry at both of them. Actually because this group of executives and everybody that's putting this team together that's fine and there is young talent there that you know that hasn't really totally shown itself and it takes time for eighteen and nineteen and twenty one year old kids to learn how to play a long nhl season as we see country. Miller and adam fox telling off now because it's a long season and they're making mistakes and they're out on the ice for so much of the of the time because of the injuries all that other stuff they have to learn. So i'm woman to let it learn but i also know that you have nobody out there protecting anybody and you have to have somebody like i hate to say it. The capitals have fourth line that scored goals last night. Our fourth line is all over the place. You know they're disconnected. They're not playing together and you know why because they're young and they don't play on the same line. 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208. Feature Presentation - The People vs. Larry Flynt (1996)

Midnight Double Feature - A Film Podcast

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208. Feature Presentation - The People vs. Larry Flynt (1996)

"The biographical people versus. Larry flynn tells the story of one man's rise from four kentucky. Child moonshine to tighten of the porn industry with the help of his hustler magazine empire along with his wife. And attorney alan. Isaac men larry flint battles censorship drugs supreme court an attempted assassination pair rhesus his own deteriorating mental health and of all the reverend jerry falwell welcome to another feature presentation amid double feature and on this episode. We'll be covering nineteen ninety-six. The people vs larry flint directed by mulas. Forman pick what's going on and gentlemen's jerks and jerk gets welcome back to double feature where covering the people vs plant as you heard. In the beginning the alpha to my larry. The the The jergens kleenex have ali. How you doing buddy. I'm good look at all these track marks on my own. I killed my husband. Kurt cobain So crazy i'm good. I'm doing well. I really am really came and talked about this. This is lost podcast of the year. I know it's very weird. That's very very about and it feel weird like such a weird year. Let me let me let me sit back and reminisce for. Let me just be like do it do it. But let me kind of like you just kind of like too darn haunts. We had a great year in terms of like not really missing an episode. We miss an episode of this year. I'm really really struggling now. We did too many of them. Pack them too close together. We actually. Yeah we ended up like tripling awake. Live with the burns faded than bad crystal. We we had a great year man like this was twenty twenty as as a year. It was we you know we did really well like in terms of just how lucrative the podcast became how amazing a members were and misao support. This is support. It was sean towards us and you know we. We can be more grateful. You know so. Yeah i'm i'm i'm i'm dislike is being really reflecting the past couple of days just about how well everything's been going. No yeah for sure i. I actually posted something in the after party. If you guys want to join in our social Facebook at double feature instagram at midnight double feature twitter. Twitter twitter twitter at md pod. You can find us over measures to conway You could find his mid will feature dot com and you can also join. Our group called the after party that some facebook. Everybody's invited and police stop by rate reviews on i tunes but with all that out of the way you call sorry you can also find us on patriot. Patriots dot com slash feature and. That's kind of what we're talking about this. I posted something in the after party. And i was like you know it's been crazy. I got laid off. I was doing doordash deliveries for like three months. And it's just kind of a crazy year bought a house in Started doing this. We launched bad crystal. We also were very successful with a lot of interviews that mainly like that zohab and matt cut spearheading that it was very strange. And it henry weird thing of like when you were a lot of people around you are not succeeding and you are succeeding. You do feel kind of like You know. I don't know how i feel about that. But right exactly but at the same time we worked very hard for this and You know obviously if we didn't think people wanted to listen we would not have made that leap so the fact that the fact that people are reviewing people are signing up for patriotic definitely definitely needs the world us. And we're right. I so with christmas. Being the birth of christ. I had to go with the antithesis of that which was larry flint. Now before we do before. I just You know like this being the last episode of the. I just wanted to take a second shout out patrons and i'm just gonna read them off because you guys like seriously like as much as we do this it's really really crazy to just wake up in the morning and say that's online for the patriots and it's just likely you serious you'll pay us like that is insane run So thank you so much two days guys. We really really appreciate it when khan have done. You know we do things specifically for every like everyone but you guys actually thank you so much danny okada first off the bat. I mean she signed up this morning. Thank you so much. She's very outspoken. In the in the body which is amazing roger hernandez. Thank you so much roger. My good my best friend damian. Mckay thanks for having dentist. I mean having christmas. Kristen is not so cool. The food that'll be cooked until i'm saying And i don't have a full name had voss four fifty one. thank you so much. Chris kreider of the height of your men. Podcast thank you chris. Damian's mrs olivia cry. I love you'll as she is and she's expecting an icon. Wait to meet him in april dude. I'm so excited for you. Live deigned from jamie. Thanks for staying main. i mean you know. We've remit reminisce so many times on the podcast about how this wouldn't exist without the. Thanks so much. Dane knowledge fright tests of haiti. Remember thanks so much. Kalis call us now. Yeah hey someone who It it's not just a guest on the podcast. Collins is someone that we talked to pretty much on a if not a day. database is like a weekly basis. You know yeah we talk with him a lot. And i'll turn like i guess champions all day one sign ups jose rivera in huntington dude. Thank you sound to especially like you guys alike. Al champions like you know like if you if this was the tons of gladdy at a roman times you guys would be as coming out of the gate in the coliseum. You guys carrying the tortoise for us and like and presenting like that's youtube is the thank you so much guys you know what. Maybe the best analogy is damn. I'm forgetting his name schlosser from a night sale rick. Von starry steadied cy. He studied so just to understand. Better of assasin silence. Whatever the fucking says. I picked up on that. That's amazing. yeah look guys. Thank you so much. We really appreciate your patriot You'll page patronage patronage patriotic. Whatever again. this is incredible and just absolutely amazing as a thank you so much does really appreciated. Yeah hell yeah. Thank you guys. So much and I honestly i think out of. There's only a couple of people in there. We don't personally know that's always a great growth Always always always really are excited to have strangers listening to us and you know that which is funny because there's a guy in. This movie looks so much like patrick. Airing tend to me. And i feel like he would be the movie. He pops up a couple times. He's the one who's like alathea. I'm sorry i think some things are sacred. Shut the fuck up like that guy. He looks like patrick harrington to me like not exactly but if you had to play him in a movie but yeah i mean with with that out of the way. We hope you guys have a good new year. We'll catch you later. We're at now. It feels like feels like a wind down that around but But no i was gonna say yeah. obviously Demoing everything that that. That's so head said You know we've had a lot of success this year. We trust through a lot of stuff. Wanna group chats lot of trying to logistical figuring stuff out. Know when there's four people in your tripler local Your workload a dozen more problems right there and we kind of we were able to hash everything out and it's been a lot of fun and excited to see what twenty twenty one does Podcast in where we're going to take it from there But beyond that getting back to this damn movie The people vs larry flint. So i picked this an honestly no not. Because it's the desisto christ but honestly i kinda i kinda forgotten about it and i just kind of picked it up i. I don't know when i i watched it. I remember talking about it with my friend jesse And he he's one of the only people that my as a big fan of this movie and it's kind of been a little forgotten as terms of like bio-pics go and stuff but what's interesting is everybody knows who hugh hefner is. A lot of people don't know who larry flint is but there's no movie about hugh hefner that's weird. As far as i know. I've never heard of one. You know so. I thought it was an interesting pick. We haven't done a lot of like picks But it's also like it's a bio pic. It's it's a comedy with like romance but also courtroom drama. It's got a lot of and it's it's almost like a black comedy in a way. I feel like it's just it's really. It's it just reeks of comedic vibes. i love what he carrollton in it. His brother brett harrelson is actually his brother. And i was like son of a bitch. I had no idea i. Everybody i think is pretty perfect. Vincent chevelle belly. Oh god james cromwell ever nya. I don't i don't corny lavas. Just she's sticks out to be in this movie. And i don't know she doesn't. She's not bad you know she. She doesn't stink. Just bring down the movie but she does stick out to me and there's moments where she's brilliant when she's all fucked up and she's acting like she's on drugs. I mean come on. But i feel like that's auto-biographical for her to say that but there's just moments it didn't stick the landing for me but what about you. Well i was just gonna sign like i feel like she really really reminded me of the sharon stern character and kasana at like. Okay we may. We have this great time. And then i discovered drugs. I discover grade. I just got low. She courtney love doesn't discover great. But like i discovered drugs. And i can't can't get away from it and that ends up being my downfall and like just ends up like like like the entire time of watching that by the way Month also the movie. I didn't have much of a history because this is the first time watching this surprise surprise. You know i'm watching it. I'm just like man. Like this really reminds me of stars character from zana but yeah i completely aca your thoughts. This is a really really compelling. I've was full on expecting a drama and it is a drama. There are dramatic elements in it. But i would yes definitely land on black comedy like it is supposed to be until we get to like that kind of like lost the lead. With courtney love character overdoses and drowns the cells like until we get to that. It's all a little kind of lighthearted like you know it's it's only like i can't believe we're doing this like i can't believe we're showing pornography we're putting up free on the streets like it's crazy So maybe relies on that. A lot and i was totally surprised that this was out the creation of like i had no idea was about this. I'd never looked into this movie at all. Obviously heard of milas foreman. And i've never seen a movie from milan's woman mike. I'd always wanted to save the three big ones which is this. Amadeus which by the way one is. I never saw that. I need to step one. Eight oscars and of course one flew over the cuckoo's nest which took our five oscars like Like i've never seen these three giant kind of movies. And you know milas. Fullness fomin unfortunately died died two years ago but yeah like he. He's just so incredibly influential with just does to live monthly because nesting amadeus sir like it was a bit of a it was a bit of a man like icon. I hate that. I'm coming to light to this direct. His work offer. His posture lay right. I wish i wish kind of took some time to go back into. This is kind of like filmography that i'd often who's beans just critically lauded But i just. I just didn't enforce laws and you know this being introduction to mills woman was fantastic. This gray really. Well put together. Movie great actors woody house and his incredible dirt. He was nominated for a best actor for this. And i didn't think he won like he was. He was definitely and it was really well. I think this is the year of forrest. Gump if i'm not mistaken ryan nineteen ninety-six four ninety four made him but anyway Again had no idea. This was about hotline. No idea who larry flint was like you said and i'm really glad that the movie addresses playboy right. I mean because it's like why can you put playboy but not hustler and like this very eccentric. You know this very like i have nervous backs for the courts. I have no respect for the authorities. I'm going to do what i wanna do. Because it's it's in the first the first or second amendment automate automate fucking laws unknown. Whatever the fuck. But like you know. Like i had a is a god given right for freedom of speech and yeah. This is something that. I love in film There are really loved. Must even spilled. I called the post and the rest is all about you. Know the freedom of speech and the freedom of press and the freedom of like we can publish whatever the fuck we want without government interference like you know like it gets into all of that And yeah like this. Totally totally enamored by this movie. In the story of this movie This might be one of the best movies. We've covered that you have saying that you've pigs and i've never seen before we get into these situations all the time like you know about like. Hey you pick movies. That i've never seen before like blur and you know. They made a lot to year. And i'm coming to like to then for the first time vis is probably up there with one of the best was like holy shit roll credits online. Yes he knew. I would love this. Because it's it's mostly courtroom drama. You pick this strategically honestly no also also okay but also i love the like edmonds. Legal strategy is. I'm looking at the same brilliant because he didn't really have mushoo requiem because his client was just an absolute like a like a suicide suicidal motherfucker. But if i majored the judges in this were hilarious. They are so patient. Like god yes. I'm dislike use series. You're not going to charge this guy with contempt of court like immediately like you'll allowed him to get to the point of throwing an orange at year like in. Are you serious man. But not even that but like the the. It's that lost one. That's hilarious to me. That woman the woman judge because she's a female so she's gonna be shit at a job like dislike. Just like many uso patient. Maybe it's because you are Just how kind of like higher high profile. This guy is. Maybe that's why you being a little bit lenient. But at the same time. If i was ajaj i would. That would be even. That would be called sameday guy. Even asha thanking that would be caused. Obey like dirt your fucking. You should know your place. You've been in court so many times. I pretty much the same same thing right. I mean like pretty much like you defaming. Libels land out one of a So it's it's clear to me that you are not learning lesson so like you know by the time you get to that loss cold case and you'll the judge you'd be like heavy heavy not learned your lesson by now Like rise we're going. Yeah it's like you. I don't know if that's the thing. I haven't unfortunately had the time to dig into the real life cases As much as i'd like to but yeah like that was really kind of like jarring vam dislike dirt like easier is like there is judge in the world would stand for this kind of like buffoonery like you know yes especially what you get to the supreme court at the end and it's like now no fucking way. Well he's pretty settled down by but yeah he's well he's pretty show. I mean like he's basically a cocktail of drugs by then right like he is on another planet like will the one of the supreme court. I liked that moment a lot. 'cause ever north looks at him. Like are you gonna shut the fuck up. And he just kinda like zips his mouth and throws way chill back here and eat an orange exact. That's a good that's good. That's a good one title but it was It was it was a story that i had nothing. No information about. I really enjoyed it. there's there's a lot of pointing this movie and i love it. Yeah i am. Yeah i i. I don't really know why pick this i. Just there's there's really not an of like christmas Yeah some point. In the course of fifty years it becomes christmas. I'd yeah there's there's not a whole lot of like bio-pics pics that are that are really like it. Where it's you know it's a pornographer a pornographer. And you know a lot of people all their smut peddlers in they're bad people and it's like and like this guy like he's very likable. It's really strange to watch that watching. What are heroes intern from the smart in guide to when he gets shot hamernicks karner. There are you jimmy stewart with a tooth ache. Like what happened to you. So there's something really interesting about that. Turn i cannot. Apparently they wanted bill murray and he wouldn't return phone calls and i cannot pitcher bill. Murray at all. And there's no fucking way. But i i really love meals foreign. Who also did man on the moon really really really really good movie I think he did that right after this like ninety six ninety nine really fantastic movie with man with jim carrey. That was my first exposure. Maybe well yeah before before. One flew over the cuckoo's nest. First meals form thing. I was man on the moon. That's probably one of the best. That's some hearing about it and it's about. It's the by pick andy kaufman. That's pretty cool. Yeah got jim carey. Courtney love danny de vito Soundtracks got like three or four songs by rem one of my favorite bands. Really fantastic movie. it'll make you fall in love with andy kaufman but the same way that he did this. And make you fall in love with larry flint and the fact that larry flint was not really a bad guy. He doesn't do really anything badness movie he doesn't abuse women he doesn't force people to do something they don't wanna do. He's not really. I mean they're their relationship is toxic at a time if an alpha. But they're both laying hands on each other's they're both really explosive embalmed aspic And yeah it's interesting according to love who's not really an actor by kind of be able to hold pace with woody harrelson. I don't think she's go. Woody harrelson but that's to be expected. She's not an actor. I mean at this point. Kurt cobain had just died like what three years ago. Two years ago You know she's going through a lot of crazy shit She was almost not. They're almost like impossible to have her on the set. Because but i get though your husband just blues brain dot. Two years ago and your. He's like the godfather of shed So it's it's all very interesting like that whole ninety s grunge staying and all that shit that's going on but i think she won a golden globe for this too which is kind of nuts. But there's just bonds where she okay there's moments where she's brilliant but then there's other were just really falls flat Everybody else rides really cool. Ever norton is not exceptional to me in this movie. He's just he's he is straight man to larry flint's like explosive on bass guy so there's not really anything that rocks my socks off from edward norton the nest but everybody else. I love vincent shia valley. I love seeing the people who constantly work with larry through all this shit throughout the years. There's a lot of the same guys. Crispin glover. Are you fucking kidding. Me as i are. And he's like you dislike a you fucking serious on what the happening to his i. What's his side. learns his hairs. How many how many pictures do we have exactly. And it's like and he's so and i one of like. Is this what this guy was really like a or was it or was it some dude just like the most boring guy in the world and crispin glover is like what if we took him and gave him i uh said like despite him into this crazy caricature but i. I love this movie. My brother adam loses movie. I think he might have been the first person that told me about it. I was getting one of my first or second tattoo. Get them at the same place. As i'm getting a tattoo i look up. And there's a picture of the guy on the wall and it signed and ask the guy tattoo him as who is that he has usually not know who that is and i was like no as eighteen. He's like leary flint. And he's like you magazine. And i was like oh okay and do you know larry flynt pops up in this movie. Actually we'll get to it. I won't ruin it yet. Alex december on it. And let's see if you can Poke them out also does have a same carville movie. Which french ranch like Isn't he that Carta doubt he's the his his a politician ryan. He's oh yeah. Yeah yeah yeah he pops up and a bunch of stuff randomly. Yeah yeah he he. He looks like the vulture from spiderman comics But yeah no for sure like like bald headed. And he's great. Yeah he's in a lot of stuff. But i say we jump into the show. I love this movie. I think this is probably honestly one of my favorite movies of all time. I kind of forgot how much i love it. It's there's really not a lot a lot. I can pick out that's wrong with it Buying to be honest. I i love your if you're listening to this like having watch us in a long time as of right now it's on amazon prime in the. Us elise so check it out if you want to check it out there Bite i've got it on. Dvd and It's on amazon prime right now. But i'm ready to jump into the shit. What he say you got anything else from usa for us. Let's get into this bitch. hell ya We open in kentucky. We see loud. Larry jimmy flint. Moonshine pedal children I don't know where he is in kentucky. But i can drive for fifteen minutes and being kentucky from where i live. I'm closer actually to yeah. I'm actually closer to the kentucky. Tennessee border that. I am to nashville so very northern tennessee and it. What kind hamid dude. I just started talking. I'm just getting like what the fuck is he talking about. He just like stopped mid mid sentence. I put my hand a shut. The fuck up actually. My question was is moonshine. Leaning still think like is. That is that in in the south. Because i mean like i am. I discovered moonshine. It was in the dukes of movie. And i was like i don't know i don't know this is not i mean. This is not prohibition you know at that point. This is like deflate forties early fifties. I guess so. I don't know if it's just a thing of like it's cheaper to do that. But i know that in the south like yeah. That was a big thing. Like people had moonshine distilleries and people would break down so they look like other parts of other machines so like one by going. Attractor this one on your car. This one would go into well and you would take them off and putting together and have a distillery So i i mean not as much anymore but you can definitely go to gatlinburg or pigeon forge and they have huge moonshine stores where it's like peach apple apple cinnamon on it's all and it's delicious by the way some real old smokey. Moonshine comes in a mason jar. It's really sweet and it's really good it gets. You are fuel rods. Like i'm like oh yes. Yes and oleg was the three three three six five or some shit like this released from coty Like you. I have a croatian friends and they drink this thing called rocky a- and it's basically jet fielder it's like oh i don't even know the percentage of alcohol it is but it's like it's a wild. Yeah imagine on was I think strong a drink was called fighting cock whiskey bottom shelf one hundred one hundred five proof whiskey o- bottom shelf get a get a handle of it for like five ninety nine. Oh so good but But no yeah. I yeah i think this the coty one fifty one. That's according to really strong. Oh jesus yeah. I think used to middle school bitch but I like this. You see larry immediately him. Jerry jerry him had jimmy good rapport. Yeah there obviously dirt poor a little. I'm just trying to make an honest bach. And i'm like okay. Let's we. I think you've tried to save an honest buck and yes shitty kit actor. I think that's what happened. But just a just the imagery of like look at how dull and grey in dreary and like their boots or covered in mud. And this old man holding up the dollar and just like Let me make sure. And it's like this is how fucking poor these people are and there really are people that still to this day and they're called trump support now just getting kentucky that's republicans. Yeah but but me especially back then. This was not uncommon especially in the south for families to be this poor like my dad growing up. I remember eating ketchup sandwiches and he was like because we were like a single mom before kids. You know so. It's it's a high fiber. Yeah right exactly But it's it's believable. It's very believable. But but i love him smashing his dad enough fucking head with that job goddamn kid but it does show you kind of like larry does have a temporary but what what did you think about this opening versus where remorse into the strip club yet. This is i mean look. I was kind of expecting like in terms of like if you're if you're doing a bio pic news off of brushing them as kids as children Yeah it was a bit of a stock difference though. Like i was just like man like i didn't think i would this poor mike reno. I didn't know that this was a rags to riches story. You know like a like yo your classic lice scoff is if you want to go down that route but yeah i had no idea that larry flint was this poll Saudi out. it's crazy. No yeah and i love the. I mean the transition to the strip club and it's obviously kind of a shit hole you know like you know june and katie from paris and london kentucky. He says it real low But there but there are there shit like that out there where it's like. There is a paris tennessee. There is a london kentucky and it's very very strange here that said about it. Just it gives you this. real sleazeball. kind of gives you this. rule sleazeball. Kind of sorry. Linda just brought a bottle of baileys coffee and we started talking about okel feed. We see more. It's christmas it's christmas. Yeah yeah hell yeah. We made hot cocoa and daley janet. It was delicious. wait here. We go but but the the thing i love it s seeing you know larry. He's got the bad suit on the curly hair. He kinda looks like a used car salesman. Is brother store to be famous. Yes he's really. I am going to jordan belfort ride like i'm going to really try my best to appear like a businessman like prop Businessman who has money and comes from money yeah. Nba his brother. Looks like the prelude to johnson's official right But you know i. It's it's interesting seeing the wills getting turned where he's like. Oh you know man we can only convince guys how good of you know lay. These girls are You that that's what kinda gets the but it's it's something where regardless of what larry's profession is. He is kind of ingenuity tive. He sees an opportunity and like how can we take this thing. We haven't we have something that people want. How can we get that into people's hands and a tight. That's that's commerce. That's a capitalist mind like that. That's that's a smart mother fucker. That somebody who sees an opportunity and like i don't care if i have to break a moral law like i'm at hurting anybody you know but it's not even that you'll you'll doing what you did with the moonshine as well. You're taking what people love alcohol and porn and distilling it right. I mean like you're not giving them what playboy does with the extra whatever the the columns and the article in the editorial you'll take that away in. You're just giving the people what they want. Why they coming to playboy and one in buying fucking knees by said. Yeah like you're you're you're taking the simplest element and making that on like you putting that on the front straight right well and i think there's something interesting between hustler and playboy where playboy tries to act like we're gentlemen. We were robes and we smoked. Cigarettes us hustlers cram in your ass like you hustler. Has that dirty like kind of feel to it where you know. Hugh hefner hugh hefner's on the record a lot. There were some rapper. Who was like man you know. How'd you get so many bitches you and he was like well. If you stop treat them like bitches you might actually have more. And i was like damn like he really outclass this kid. I wish i should have dug up a little bit research on what they kinda thought of each other. You have neren. Larry fleming surely they know each other but i wonder exactly what their relationship was as competitors you know by larry flynn. I mean dude. He's worth five hundred million dollars like he made a lot of money in his lifetime. I'm sure hugh hefner probably made a little bit more just personality. But what did you dig up something. Yeah i found this article from the hollywood reporter. Back in two thousand fifteen So the the the headline is playboy. Chafe hugh hefner has quite lust. His mind says larry flint. Speaking speaking on cnn flint was asked if playboys merv to become more like maximum. Jake in esquire was a smart decision to which he replied. Hugh hefner is nine hundred now. I know he's getting old. But i didn't know he'd lost his mind asked to clarifies. Point flint answered rhetorically. How can you take the most important feature of your magazine and drop it what. It became notorious full. Damn that's that's the and that really ties into this scene. Will i mean like this this moment in the movie. I'd like a Against this idea to literally just give the people what they want and that is pulling right one. It's also interesting to or is like moral reasons. Is that what playboy It's playboy trying to get away from a more exploitative kind of student who can argue that larry flint is exploiting people you know you can kind of argue that it's an interesting point. I don't know if i agree with it. You know there. There's a demand. There is a supply people are being paid consenting adults like i get it but it is interesting to kind of see this high road that playboy trying to take hustlers like a kid. You what's support. It was interesting to me watching this movie in twenty twenty when you can throw a rock at any instagram account. And find relief ends link Like watching it through that lens like goes these days Really urban and putting themselves out there and not really. I guess porn is still looked out. We can into this whole conversation about like porn being. I guess tabu in in in my relationship go pretty open. Montgomery mind pretty open about the we watch like we talk about it like like you know whatever it is what it is everyone fucking does. It is disney. You hide it right like you know because you supposed to because everybody knows what that black leather couches and don't act like you don't know exactly if i showed you a photo of johnny sends you would know him as the plumber. You know. it's fucking bullshit. How they do treat people in porn people who are sex workers and it's now that's bullshit man and i kinda love only fan for that where it's like you cut out the middleman you know. I'm sure there's something you have to pay to only fans and also if anybody's interested read about bella thorne and totally fucking on own fans and has asked hat but it's yeah shit for that they're like you deft fuck you now disney bitch like fucking shit upper i. I'm sorry man you an a middle of a pandemic you ruined something that is it. Somebody's putting food on the table with an you ruined. That's crazy but the the interesting thing about how you know. Sex workers and prostitutes and anything of that nature is kind of looked down upon is bullshit. And that's not you know. Remove morality aside. These people are here because there is demand and it's like it's not like prostitutes have to ask people to have sex with and it's like no. That's the exact year because people are asking doesn't make any fucking sense but yeah there is an interesting kind of like taboo around and you know you kind of get that bible belt we're larry flint is. We haven't talked about this. It's also very important. He's in ohio kentucky. And that is your starting to get you know kind of towards the south where this is really looked down upon where people are really judgy. Jerry falwell does very strong bright bright. Exactly so i think that's thing and where he finally just like. There's gotta be a place for pervert. She finally goes out to california. Makes a lot of sense But yeah that's an interesting conversation too. I feel like we could go on and on and on about episode. I think that would be great. Did did academy death lane like watching this movie in twenty twenty and you know saying how open goes on our better sexuality internally like totally right to do so rodham emailing right right right well. It's it's your body you do. What you fucking want If if people are buying you can sell it. Garfield darned give a shed because it doesn't impact may sound like it was interesting watching you. The people vs larry flint under that whole kind of like lens like this is again. Freedom of speech right. This is again Early fans is us is a platform where people can put themselves out there because they wonder then being full stir like because they want right right. Whatever happens between two consenting adults. None of my god emphasis and that's as there's go through printing and as long as they're adults like that is actually the only to qualifies. That's it right exactly you and kind of like church nor state nor individual should have any any business in that mid not patriots against sexual assault the midnight double features against speaking of sexual assault the catholic church non-scary loki going for thanasis jugular with the blade. I will any chance. I get but i mean we can kind of had a little bit. You know he's trying to get the magazine made you know you gotta have some kind of content like playboy. Does i love. This guy is such a pit part. And he's like why he's like their loss. You fucking like you can't just come up here. Do this interesting to me. Like just an like on qualified thoughts. Like because i did i just watch his once but like the idea of putting playboy out and you know everyone buys it for paul and he has been as everyone knows this like this right. This is one hundred percent true but like just putting a couple of columns think as as editorials around it makes it somewhat legal. You know like you see that that whole kind of like of the law all like. Where's the line kind of thing that really really fascinated me in this may dude. I was like a series like you know like you can put out hosoi which has like just spread eagle like pages of women but then the legal the playboy can do it as long as there's just like a an editorial about the assumption right exactly bright and also how you depict the body. You can't just have this like kind of blunt graphic. just legs spread ca. You have to do it in like a fancy way. And then it's acceptable it's more palatable and now it's just so ironic to watch this and be like nobody thought that you know there would be ad for pornography you know twenty years down the road. It's so fucking funny to watch like if somebody was like if i want to move in twenty twenty and somebody brought out a magazine or even a dvd. And just her. i'm like. I'm sorry i is this like your emergency porn. Like this why i keep coming back to that moment and family guy when quagmire discovers internet porn yes got the judge samy on our mode costs and the costs before but that is one of my favorites gets from from from family guy. Yeah i'm good. He's he's just out of breath. O'clock like shadow. Yes i've just been a some of that internet. I'm gonna go check out my mail over there right. He's hardly out of breath. It mean it's it's just so it's so funny to see like how how far it's calm But really what's what's crazy to remove at a clipper in the first ten minutes we see later flint. Does we see what his home life is. We meet his brother and then s he gets back to you know basically being shut down about the magazines this is where he makes the hustler hustler newsletter. And we really there's moments that are really great from woody harrelson show. Larry flynt does have a dark side. Where he's like he's like you know. What the hell are you gonna do with all this. Don't ever interrupt me while i'm talking. It's like that's fucking scary like that kind of freaking out a little bit as a damn dude but this also introduced alpha flint. Was he her dance. Her dancing is so awkward and so strange to kornilov. Who's supposed to be eighteen. Seventeen yes seventeen. Yeah thank you especially seventeen and her like when she goes to flipper top up she falls on ground is. This is strange as like. This is very very weird and not to say. I don't think that courtney love is an unattractive woman. I also don't think she's an attractive woman. There's not really anything in that. But she's gorgeous is only wrong like i can see why all day long i get it just not my cup of tea you know i would probably secretary that's like the pervert is backed. The perfect is backed by your fucking cue but other than that. Yeah i don't. I don't see the appeal for me. You know. this is not not my cup of tea but this whole thing about her being underage shrinking moonshine. It's it's it's so funny. It's a meet cute set in a porno. It's it's it's interesting. it's original. I really dug that And she is. This is one of her moments of brilliance. You see this. That's how close i and being eighteen. It's like that's great. She does such a good job here. But then there's later there's moments later on you know i just. She bats her she she she like blinks a lot and kind of bats her eyes and does this weird thing and i'm like it's just not my cup of tea like for someone who is a musician who has not really that acting is not your first thing. It's cool. i can dig it. I can look past that. Because i'm grading on a curve. You know if woody harrelson put out an album and it wasn't great. I probably would be a little bit more leaning. I mean not. I did like there is and this is kind of like taking behind the cut in how but we Going to record One of our breaking bad up besides just off to this other side and you know the the episode. we're talking about pekar. There is a woman in that who plays out of junkie like he plays at junkie. Really really incredibly well. And you know like you can kind of see if you watch these movies back to back right if you want to call laos kind like performance as a junkie. It's it's good. It's surface level. It's a little shallow like it's like. This is what. I imagined a junkie to act like whereas the performance in breaking bad with that bat woman that gives me not ms like there's something about that that particular performance the you know the the crazy look in her eyes is something about that that is not a is not present in coney loves contract performance. That doesn't make old morio right. Yeah that will in for breaking breaking bad is like bethsheba from the conjuring movies on top of that wardrobe knocking terrifying man. yeah But like i said this is their meek. You you know She says. I heard you being everybody in your club see now. Is that a prerequisite. I haven't made pass paseo bites. It's cute You know we we basically see they they start. They start banging. I liked it. I liked it. Jimmy walks in on them And we see that she this is. This is what's mind blowing to where he's like. Why don't you go fuck woman. I do fuck him. And he's like excuse me and it must be so like i feel like he must have hit like a gold mine where he's like. Oh i'm marion this woman. You know you could see the clockwork in his head. Way we see little things to you know. She's moving in with you. He's like oh you know this girl. She's adopted now. I'll the flint was adopted. Her her dad did murder basically her whole family And she in like one. I think she and like her grandmother survived. It wasn't like her entire family. She had siblings survived the at her dad murdered people in her family and she survived and write a list of a photo of her. She was a beautiful woman. My face was like naturally beautiful man like i. it's honestly a real tragedy. What to right. Yeah it is. It is really sad And so that moment. She's like you know. And they shaft there my face and their pussies for a god didn't like that's all very true. That's not made up for the movie. I mean obviously that'd be kinda fucked up if they did like a weird line there. That's not true but We we see that the also that the hustler newsletter is gaining traction. I love that truck driver. Who's like yeah came in handy know. And they're of laugh about it. I loved one out in the fucking bathroom right. Doodo truck drivers man like i'll dope pissing jugs while they're driving the roads so they don't have and they'll throw it out on the road and i guess for lack of a better term crackheads methods will drink the pass because they're taking methamphetamine and try and get a transition to piss. Oh my god. That's crazy the worst part is trying to get the taste out of your mouth. Goddamn it tastes like three times right. Yeah gentlemen playboy is laughing at you. You know we were seeing the groundings here. You know trying to get the the photo this is. What's funny the girl that they're that they're that they're photographing he's like no your other left hand the the. She's absolutely knockout gorgeous. She was funny is she's not just a bottle. When when jimmy carter sister call she is the secretary. That's larry you know. This is ricardo stapleton's on the phone. It's a it is kinda cool that it's not just like are your model fuck alec now. If you're cool hurry will put in for a job. And she's absolutely gorgeous to just is hilarious ter- light like he did the flint's just goes off and just like bourne bowlegs would what are you doing. What are you loved it right good. It's very like abroad. That it makes you of like. Oh like just seeing any woman have her legs. Just pull open is kind of like yeah it definitely gonna you jump a little bit We're we're seeing backlash from hustler. They're only having a twenty five percent follow through. The people aren't really buying the magazines it southeast birthday. A lot of stuff going on in the first twenty minutes of this movie crispin glover news talk cleared. Yeah yeah just the whole thing. The way he smoked cigarettes where he puts the cigarette in between his ring and middle finger and smokes like that. It's very very strange. Yeah absolutely they're sending back one hundred fifty thousand copies You know this this is great. We kinda see them. Start to fight and this guy. And he's like i've got naked pictures of jackie. O you know. I waited for four months one day. The commander door opens up and she comes. Walking is like your shirts. Jackie o is yeah. Sure is what are you. What are you see. You see absolutely everything. Trust me she's a good one. Say no mamie eisenhower. Lady bird labor case. You're not from lady johnson. John god linden yeah lent lbj. Thank you You know we're seeing also the effect. I love the congressman who buys the copy of it. And they're like they're like oh so you would have gotten pornographic images of martha washington. D like i'm I'm a buff about the first lady's dude. Like of course. Exactly stand ride. Like that's the like it. Your congressman like. Where's your line you know but like you will not you will draw a line at someone who is not famous and actively trying to scramble and scrounge and do pornography shirts to to put food on the table but He'll be fine with with jackie. O like you know like it's just brighter. What the fuck. And i need to correct. He's actually. The governor of the state is by copy unesco only jesus Were introduced to james cromwell. Love james cromwell lung is in so much interesting stuff and man was the longest yod the remain adam sandler. He's the one. But i mean like i mean come onto like l. a. confidential lack grain mile like. He's i robot of him. I write about. Yeah a dude. He is a toll man yet. he's you know how holiest he is. Huge was like six six. I guess i'm gonna look it up looking looking up. Yeah he should be slender man. That would be fantastic. Six eight six six seven. No but still his son. John is even told us that. Jesus christ jesus christ six seven. Yeah yeah dude. that's huge. Any is old dammit. Honestly i thought he had died. I think that's awesome. I i really thought i was afraid. He had passed away in the recent drastic Couple of years ago okay He does look a ton. Like charles keating by the way if you google him very not a whole lot but pretty pretty good actor to portray him But he's you know lamenting the downfall of the american society. We are the citizens for decent literature. We cannot relent. We must prevent the destruction of the soul of america. This is charles. Keating who famously with wrapped up in the savings and loan scandal in austin people millions It's just so funny to see these guys who are of us watch out for pornography and it's like this gave people jobs. This guy built industry. You did nothing but take away from people you know. And he served almost no jail time basically for it. And that's the like like it's it's funny because it's such a like the difference between a blue collar crime and white collar crime riot like this is you you. You have have perpetrated people's finances you know like you taking away what they've absolutely worked for your like you on the scum of the earth sir. And right you'll you'll you'll. You'll pushing forward this narrative that you know that larry flynn is the devil basically and it's just like that's did one of the things i love about this. This saying is it's low hanging furred and fucking gets me. All the time is these guys like carville. Character is passing on at magazines. And guys like i really like hot. I really want just like fuck you do it. What the right yeah. Everybody's fighting over him and shit. Oh he He served four and a half years in prison before those convictions were overturned in nineteen ninety-six. The this movie came out And ninety nine he played. He pleaded guilty to more limited set of wire fraud. Bankruptcy fraud counts and was sentenced to the time he had already served He sent spent his final years a low profile real estate activities until he died in two thousand fourteen. He was ninety so show like they live for a long time. cost the. Us government's three billion dollars when his bond failed. That's absolutely insane. Larry take your pants off. Why i've never fucked a millionaire before. Great line can't campaign to do. That's the might be my favorite line of the movie. It's really good. You know we see larry's lifestyle. He's got this party you know. His parents brought up he out the talk by getting married. I'm just summarizing this right here. It's a great seen. He's like she's like fucking she's like knows deep fucking lesson here. He is tearing up some competent just like absolutely ripping up the cop and he his head in the wall. It's like there's some great like physical physical comedy air out of mainland. He's basically going out to this pool. Fucking these girls. That just like settling into the bed. It's it's good stuff. I love that he said we've got this girl in here. And she's frigid. They're all out in the in the hot tub cool conversation between them you know. Or she's like you want to get married you know they started fusing monogamy for For marriage and stuff that such a mature an awesome way to look at this. Where it's like. I don't wanna stop overdue. I love the way we live which is interesting too because you know she she ultimately. She does contract aids. She contracted aids. She drowned in a bathtub. A learfield cyclists and she would have died within a year anyways and it sucks but you know honestly between just withering away of age versus drowning to death. You know he's like. I think i would prefer her drowning. He's at all as a freddie mercury exit. Yeah right basically But she will. I think what he said was she. He says she got aids from a bad blood transfusion. And i'm like listen. I'm not come. I have no. I have no evidence to counter that a goddamn like either need to be a rocket scientist to figure out. That might not code right exactly right. I don. i don't have any. I don't have any evidence to refute that. Take this word below eighties. Yeah it's eighty. This is back when people could fuck multiple with multiple partners at the same time. And worry about it right. A main like it's just the way it was like. It's you didn't get it from a bad blood transfusion. I am. sorry. I'm i again have not looked into the history of this. Have number into the evidence this. But i can tell you pretty much like ninety ninety five percent sentence like you did not get it from the transfers done. You're on there are absolutely absolutely people who get bad blood transfusion historic case of a kid. Who got a bad blood transfusion. And he kind of broke down barriers that it's not just people who are drug addicts and homosexuals. That a you know. It's not just people who are swinging tops. yeah right. He broke that stigma of aids patient. But yeah i just. I have a hard time by. She was on drugs. She was also having sex multiple people. I'm not saying that what happened was it. I'm just saying that you know just i. I don't know. I just i question. That is all i'm going to leave it out But of course they you know they get married I love where he's like. You know you marry me. And she's like are you fuck would be like yeah. I laughed my ass off that part man but we see emirates arrested Yeah that's the first sign of trouble. Here very are half an hour in were so successful we. We've got naked pictures. Jackie o you know. We're we're doing all this crazy shit and now pride comes before the fall. So it's like now we've got up we gotta go down We're introduced to ever norton as his lawyer. Are you doing her doing my wife. And he's like now he's like i love you. Specially you specialize in porn. He's like no god. No yeah he's this he's like it'd be like it'll be okay if you're doing like yours like dora about it. It's fine oscar. You like yeah. I had a love the the whole. Because we need patrick patrick when known. Oh no one's character in him because it's just like yeah. He is the straight man to the wildcat riders. As like we we need the voice of reason. Yeah like right right. Eighty need somebody to straighten. Larry out like there. There is definitely a respected leary has for allen when this is the guy who's always bailing your ass out who larry doesn't listen to anybody in this movie but allen like that. That's the interesting thing nobody can rain. This guy in except for know alathea a little bit. He'd never listened to. Jimmy never listened to arlo. It's very interesting to watch. Watch their dynamic. And i think they do a great job. I feel very sorry for elin man. Like what a crappy situation. He okay because he looks like a junior like nana genu- like maybe a couple of years into his law career. Because like you know we get that time jump. Ladder highrise whatever but here especially taking on this klein and someone who's so eccentric and unpredictable. As larry flint is here i feel sorry if he has a loyal qaddafi as the a allen is are being more snap shot. The he that that actually happened to like jerry. Something junior was a different kinda. Yeah yeah they. They actually kind of combined his his moment with that I get a for storytelling purposes. But i just wanted to point that out I love you know. They slam him like organized. Crime charges. obviously just trying to cook up whatever. I just got to ask you one time. Do you have any connections in any way to organized crime. And that's funny is. I talked to people all day at work about your debt collector. And i'll ask people you know. Hey you're balances nine thousand dollars. Is there any way that you can pay their balance off in full. And they're like no. And i'm like okay. Just gotta ask just gotta ask a now move onto the fun stuff. But i have to ask you that like i love that. We have their there. How many court cases where the guy was like well. My lawyer never asked me if i did. It runs that like set the precedent oven on like they teach you in school that it doesn't matter whether your client did not like you just the best interests like you might as long as if they confess to your something that gets in the way of Serving justice like you know like let's say I i hid this piece of evidence You need to tell a place like there are duties that you know you all bound to because you are technically a seven of the court and technically it seven of justice but also buell's native of in your best interests of the the clients so yeah it is interesting to me like you know that he he did he he asked let larry flint dot but like also he's not really breaking any fucking us laws. This is just the getting all uppity about like we we catholics in the united way. We like religious. You know this is. This is wrong. It's right well. Yeah and it's also yet. Larry flint pave the way for a lot of you know for not only a lot of freedom of speech but at the same time. What is socially acceptable. No i don't agree that you know coming off he's like you can buy a hustler right there in the grocery store and it's like not where i'm from those things that were behind the counter. They had a plastic divider over a little frail cover. It was like a shield As a kid dude. I we see where would be like a cover of like a cosmopolitan and it would be like you know pink like the artist and she'd have like a low cut shirt on and be showing tattoos short hair and they would put a cover up on it and i'm like dude. Come on man expect intense but they have this magazine. China cold zoo magazine zoo magazine. It's kind of like it. it's not smut. It's kinda like page thirteen on like they're wearing bikinis and and whatever That like those would be like in full year because like there is one super sexually explicit. You could bother as we actually did buy them. Like i kept him in sacred and must go back like the add. The right like. I remember getting some older friends to buy me some actual actual wreck really hot stuff. And i'm just like fuck you get your buddy to buy you a copy of wild things like able in east. Richardson like hell. Yeah and you wear. Vhs dared i've been come on outright. We see. I love this there right away. We see alpha allen. And larry this great report where she's like my cousin. Shot a preacher in the bag. What denomination can we talk about. The fate of cousin. Larry later or cousin. Bobby later It very interesting stuff you know. We see him finally get to court I i'm drawing a blank on this guy's name again James carville island must apologize for the unpleasantness of this task. He's like a hustler. Magazine depicts men and women and allude in favor hustler. Magazine show santa claus and lewd and shameful behavior. And you see you see have had to lean over to ever next playing in. Jesus christ i to me. It's weird to me. That wouldn't edward norton his learning about this now like you know it's one of the things in and look. I hate to be so boring about this because it is hilarious in the movie win when he explains it. To just as knowns non like reaction to it is just like god damnit it right and one of the things in like in law is the other side cannot be surprised by evidence. That's just not a thing. Econ right you. That happens in movies all the time like that someone gets up and makes us huge kind of like revelation of as something like that. But there's a thing called wadi which is like the admission of evidence right. I actually think that might be a curve. Who was in this movie in the movie. Like dare is like when you presenting all your evidence and the judge is like yeah you can admit evidence night be condiment that evidence like you know like it's just like okay. You see lot of law and order were there like the defense did not know about this piece of evidence and it's too late to say you can't rely on that piece of evidence if it's been excluded or if it's like a surprise thing you just con- like it's non like it's not fair to be honest like it's not fair to the defense sir. Yeah right well yeah you give them no time to basically prep for it. You know you can drop a bombshell on people You know And i love alan. Is six men defensive. He's a the are the magazines as ostler and immediately they. Will you know the throws out. This is larry flint. That judge is larry flint. Okay i are. Familia why was he. Looks exports shit out he's paralysed. He can't i was like okay because this really stuck out to me because you know the the prosecution gets up and says objection and he says stain and edgewood. No one's like really like what the fuck wise that's why is that sustained right because it's completely relevant right. I mean like you you get up and you objected things that are irrelevant to the case or whatever point you making his not relevant to to anything at all you just wasting time. But here he says objection and their job says society need. It's quite clear that the judge is. He's already kind of made up his mind ride like his is already decided. That like yeah. It's really interesting to me that. That's larry flynn. Because i was like. I looked at as of larry's went off the movie and i was like i. I've seen him somewhere. Where i'd say an hour and a half before but yeah i would love. I think it'd be so interesting. If one of us was one of us was the plaintiff and the defendant in case we argue chit either would be such an interesting such an interesting thing because like i know knowledge why she would kick my ass but i own you and charisma. I'll tell you what i'm like. This is something we can talk about. Two hundred two hundred eight episodes in in one of the reasons. I the plug costs because i'm not granted advocacy and like advocacy is obviously like the whole off of getting up and standing up in court and being able to articulate. Your ideas are satellite. Yeah you'll arguments among granted advocacy and the podcast. Has mercy helped with like you know with all of that stuff Yeah i'm still busy trying to get better at it. You know you're great at advocates aid. I think he's kick my ass in advocacy i. I like preparing things on paper and in writing. Like i'm i'm really good at like at at putting together an argument on pipe. And and that's that works in australia because in australia solicitors put together arguments on paper and like actual Actually on payback. And you can hire a barrister to articulate that idea foyer. Wow that's interesting. That is he is the way it works. I'm bad at writing stuff. Because i feel like boxes me in like if i can talk like i can have a shitty argument but say it well and my dad might persuade somebody a little bit better versus like i went to school for this. This guy is not reform. Our country winning you over fuck but now i i do. I love ever norton in this because he is very passionate about that you know he is very like whoa hang on and he. You know it's crazy to watch a lawyer questioned the judge but like now that's that's bullshit you know. And he's he. It's interesting to see isaacs men's respect for the court in its process but then to call bullshit when bullshit has dealt. You know what i mean. No i do know what you mean and you know what that happens. A lot more often in real life. Ben you would expect like there is. There is a lot of it happens. All the time in movies and really annoys me because lawyers and judges especially courtroom setting really dirt talk pretty casually like i've seen a lot of like lawyers in front of their clients in a courtroom setting talk very casually to the judge. The judge can make drugs the judge though the lawyer will respond back in a joking manner and i'm not saying that it's informal. It absolutely is formal. It's the most formal kind of situation that you can possibly have bunn. There is a like. I've seen especially lawyers who are present themselves in front of judges on a daily basis. Like you're like you know you can tell. The days have communicated often the they walk in and get finger guns to each other right exactly. I mean like especially especially criminal lawyers ride like who often wack the same courtrooms every day on a daily basis. Like these days like the judge is inherently familiar with the law. is that are in their chords. Are they kinda like build up the this poll and it always like interesting like whenever like a lawyer in a movie space very casually to a judge and because it's true it's real it's an actual thing that happens that yeah that is that is really interesting because you think of disease. I'm a robot. And i argue my case but like i love watching law and order. There's some great episodes where they're da will actually go and gleich have a drink with the prosecutor you know with with a defense that happen because it's not. It's not supposed to be as adversarial as you would expect. I like i mean it's still supposed to be because your colleagues right. I mean like you're buzzed lawyers. You both work in the same industry. Just because you know you'll like one is put away your client doesn't mean that you're supposed to be adversaries like right right now. One hundred percent The really this whole scene can be summarized in. They kind of argue their points back and forth. This is where he you know he. Yeah he won't he wanted them. They kinda convinced. They're like larry. What's not has. This is what i've got to ho about But he makes a great point. He's like you know there's these other magazines and people. I saw four word if you don't like hustler magazine don't don't read it you know. And and the but but norton's arguments so much better. He's like he's like. I'm not expecting you to like larry flynt as i don't like what layers went does and you can see larry like like like sighing. He's like but i love that. We live in a world where i can pick up hustler magazine and read it if i want to. Or if i think it's in the trash can pick it up and thrown in the trash and it's like yes free. Well make that decision for myself. Yeah absolutely and that's where the entire kind point hit the show and larry's argument of you know if a kid gets caught drinking beer in a tavern you don't ban budweiser across the nation. And it's like yeah like that's exactly that's a great. That's a great point Your honor you have made one intelligent intelligent decision this whole time. I don't expect one. Now knock yourself out. Holy the balls. They brought his balls in a wheelbarrow. God damnit in twenty five years in federal penitentiary which which is great. But a horse ridiculous. That's why it got thrown out after like too much. He was never going to hold up. I mean like sentencing. a law goes into sentencing ride. I mean like a lot of a lot of considerations going to sentencing including this guy like the chances of him being rehabilitated. On like you know like the seriousness of the crime like mitigating factors sir like him being like up twenty five years. I know like you will. There's no fucking way judicially like incorrect. Like you know. There's that a denying him bail and mmediately dude. You obviously have a personal problem here. There's an absolutely ridiculous i'm partial. Yeah right it's it's not really until they get out of ohio and georgia and kind of get to the supreme court that should even remotely starts to me and it's like okay dude okay. Singer like thousands and thousands thousands of dollars was spent to get to that point right no one hundred percent all the time and energy wasted like geez head had he not. It's very interesting. Thank you larry. Flynt had nocco go to court had not had to go to court. He might not have ever been shot. That's fucking crazy about. Like he was coming out was paralyzed. That's fucked up to think about but we get some teams of him in the prison. I need some more coffee for my bailey. Some starting to run a little low Guys we will be right back with the second. Half of our coverage of the people were flint go anywhere. Hey guys. we've gone on colin jumping in here in the middle. Just let you know some stuff that's going on at midnight double feature First off please please please. 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Bye bye Aw going on guys coming back the second half recovery. John the people vs refund where freshly squeezed as we liked his af topped off my funny sauce. My be lisa coffee and we're going to go jump in right into prison I just wanna see. I wanna see larry talking healthy and it cuts away. And it's like red. And andy talking to each other from fucking just like you say you see leaves pans over to the right. And there's this big black bandana. we go. It's bogs diamond from josh. You i like to tell you. That larry author good fight and that the left alone lacked. Tell you that but prison aid. Porno prison is not a one hundred million dollars. Pornographic industry want to know. So leery eventually larry gets out after five months. They contested I like this whole fake saying that. He has set up the people's republic for free or something like that yet. He makes up the whole thing. i love this man. This is really nice for people for united. Press by this out here. He goes you fucking idiot. Like i'm paying all these people. Do you think made this shut up. This is he. He really this is the same that he really made me really reminded me of jordan. Belfort from from the wom- walls right. Just just how. Well he is able to articulate his point of view and his like his very kind of like out bay point of view like he's just now well he is this. How just how good. He is convincing people about his point. Like you know like this is such a because you got to remember the time period that this takes place in this is pawn pornography. It's just not socially acceptable right embiid like if you put it against things like war and violence and things like that. Then it's like. Why is this acceptable. But this isn't like ryan right using that particular. Kind of like viewpoint really really illustrates. Just what is wrong with the system. I like so it's just. It's such a great performance from woody. Harrelson is just such a a really just reminded me of jordan belfort at him just being able to impact and persuade Just as massive crowds of people and bring around to his side. No yeah one hundred percent. He's like you now if you have a problem with breasts and vagina talked to the manufacturer. That's not that's not. i think. That's actually a lenny. Bruce show you know. He got busted for obscenity. A lot At the time but this whole thing you know it. It's a great scene and it's really insane. Seeing him like that screen is gigantic. Like when they do the faraway shot and it cuts between like you know hiroshima survivors and in some woman. Getting like you know her tit. And you're like. Wow what the fuck. And it's such a strange juxtaposition of these women flipping their Reach behind them. And in there. But cheats around and watch like nazi. Soldiers like move. But i'm kind of like what the fuck is the point of the. Are you selling something. Like what is the point of this like thing. Are you just trying to drum up like good publicity. Good job Publicity just publicity. Like on i took it as just let me just make my point kind of thing right because this thing is like this thing is only the closest thing i can honestly think to this as i could trump rally or inside but at least you were running for he running for something you know is his point like in hosting this trying to change. This is like trying to change the whitest societies like hearts and minds and perspective about porn. Like is that what he's doing like is that you'll end game like trying to make pornography's more socially acceptable say you can sell. More magazines is always saying right. That's one i'm like. What ultimately. I'm sure he's selling to merge series making some money but you're taking you're taking a bite meow of reading this place out paying these singers as announcer setting up all this equipment like what exactly is in game here but i honestly think that you know. He is a self destructive in individual where it's like. There's not really anything particularly to be war one. I'm not having a debate up here with billy graham. You know i. I'm just kind of doing this to disrupt the system. You know it's just it's just something to kind of show them that. Were out there were. we're doing it. That's kind of what. I took it as Because it it's an interesting scene but i i honestly could've done without it. I really don't need it. But i but i i like it though i dig it next re. We show arlo busting in forty love spread. Jesus is just like he. Walk in. And is larry and then he looks over to the left. I'll tell ya a are low. She's got her ankles up by your years. Flopped out like i loved it right A georgia prosecutors arrested some new dealers for selling hustler and the other retailers are getting nervous larry's The cavalry is on the way he gets arrested for renting the shop I love as soon as he shows up. He just takes that guy's hat and ten seconds later. He's around crispin. Glover buying the magazine right and we totally this by the way. I think we kind of went possible. That i this is the second time we see the shooter ryan. I mean like we see the. That's right this guy just reminded me of Slug with from like the old trolley factory. Maybe like he's just like oh. Yeah the creepy guy hanging around. They're like the child the chocolate factory. But you get a sense as to shit. That's not good news. This guy's up to some right right and there's definitely like some some foreshadowing there like what the fuck is going on. You know why they. Why do they show me. This guy he's arrested. He's got them right back out. There's a lotta people who support what you're saying but they're not showing for you. What do you have to say that. Hey why do i have to go to jail to protect your freedom Doing this like kind of like a martyrdom. Kind of act But at the same time you see this guy and he selling pornography as an immediately turns around and is like i'm offering a one billion dollar reward for information on who kill jfk and you're like holy shit like that that's kind of nuts or is it is a five hundred thousand dollars a one one million hundred million for memory one million but like this is also the same. You know moving on us all of the month. Oh yeah that's so. Good man one. The funny the funny thing is that you know woody. Harrelson's dad was a very notorious. I guess was he a mobster. Murder people like. Oh dude woody. Harrelson dad would conspiracy conspiracy theorists. Think that woody harrelson stat actually killed kennedy. And you're like what the wo- yes see you out of me right now. Yes woody harrelson dad. Murder charles harrelson. He died in two thousand seven of a heart attack but Wasn't american hitman an organized crime figure who was convicted of assassinating federal judge. John h. wood junior the first federal judge to be killed in the twentieth century. Now he is the father of actor. Woody harrelson allegations allegations of okay. Look we're taking a fucking time out. Read this allegations of involvement in the assassination of john f kennedy in september nineteen eighty harrelson's harrelson sanyo surrendered to police after six standoff in which he was reportedly. Honk arcane during the standoff. He threatened suicide stating that he had killed by. The judge would and president jazz in a television interview after his arrest. Harrelson said quite at the same time. I said i'd kill the judge i said killed kennedy which might give you an idea to the state of mind at the time. He said that the statements made during the standoff with quite an effort to elongate my life. Joseph testified that houses trial during house trial housing claim to have shot kennedy and drew maps to show where he was hiding during this as a nation charter said that he did not believe. Harrison's claim and the ap reported that the fbi court apparently discounted any involvement by harrelson in the candidates assassination. An even just to be like kate in it like you know yes be close to. I had no idea. that's crazy. yeah he he He there were some escape attempt in like a year before. This movie came out But yeah he he absolutely. What was a hitman. And it's so crazy to think that you know. He gave her to one of the chilous. Dude on the planet What are you hear. Allston has a great documentary about hemp as well and trying to legalize marijuana to really really good documentary. But i can't remember the name of it. Just mentioned he is one of my favorite actors working today. Like woody house is like he is absolutely killing it and pretty much everything that as in like we talked about him briefly i think on no country for old men but I mean true detective to me that first season with him and math mcconaughey many on. Hey gets probably most props in that entire like season you know like everyone. Everyone loves him in that. And i love him to in that bed like woody house into may man and that first as of detective just amazing dirt. Like putting in the fucking the lord's work a fucking love it man. I've never watched your detective. I've never gotten on. I've never gotten on that bus. Just the wash source the festive season Which is funny to a. Lotta people have pointed out that woody harrelson end no country for old man is basically his dad and i was like. Oh shit that's really cool I like this whole thing. You know like. I said him giving the reward for you. Know for information The the really interesting. They're trying to come up the asshole month sailor flint. That's really good This where we kind of get the first hint of jerry. Falwell that name popping up which will definitely get into of jerry. Falwell is just really quickly while we're here is named year because i'd never heard of him before gaza yuks he is. He was founder and head of a large church in the south in virginia. Called liberty university But i i knew him because I'm a big fan of journalist. Name was christopher hitchens. Christopher hitchens was yeah. He was considered one of the four horsemen of modern atheism. A very smart guy who said that when he was talking about his like his dick talking about saxon stop. he goes since Since my god given member decided to give me no peace. I decided to give it. No rest in return and dude. What a classy motherfucker. He's like a winston churchill to. He's great i love christopher hitchens yelich said asshole the month by ruth card ruth carter stapleton. Jimmy carter's wife president time calls in. He's like hello how she's i. Praise the lord. I found you. How luigia so good but she is. I like i think i would like this woman like as someone who's not christian someone who does not particularly like organized religion. I think i would like this woman very well you know and she even says i thought you and i will hit it off. He's like you know i'm paler. You're have angeles you know But you know what what do you want me. I don't believe in labels. I think you and i could teach each other a lot You know. And he's like i just i really can't get around to. I can't have dinner. Larry you know the great thing about people like us. We can do whatever we want like if that's not a white lady with power i've ever if that's if that's not that's exactly. Her husband is president. That is literally right. Well brother yeah. I was like wait. He's a farmer who's a peanut farmer but but and i didn't know how much a prominent role she actually played like in real life larry flint had like epiphany on his jet with regard stapleton and came to christ and really did all the stuff really crazy to think about. I love. Do you ever go to church like christmas eve. Easter new year's eve new year's eve this bullshit. It's good but we kind of see this thing of of him hitting it off with ruth and Alpha getting kind of jealous. This is one of the moment. I don't like corey is just her squinting ham it up a little bit more. I'm just sarcasm like you. Squint like you're about to stab this woman and i get it but it's a little heavy handed But i love were they kind of under his hope right about i. I love what she says. She's like hell fire. Damnation that sort of thing that talk is almost unforgivable. And i was like. Yeah co man like share a drink with this lady. You know. that's what's up But but the yeah that whole thing it's very interesting seeing where their relationship goes and she asks you know. What was your childhood like. It's dan this is this is something that's kind of as somebody who grew up in a religious background. Somebody who just asked you questions and listens to what you has to say. She doesn't come across as very judgement. I mean god knows. I don't know what the fuck this lady could have been member of the kkk. For all. i know but just as she is portrayed in this movie that is something. That's missing from like a lot of southern religious stuff from what i grew up in what i was steeped in You know she. She's really surprising. She's she's genuinely trying to understand where larry's coming from instead of instead of pointing fingers and telling telling larry what is right or what she believes is right. She is actually really trying to understand and she's trying to make you know. Don't get me wrong. She is also trying to make. Larry try like understand her one of you but it's it's a lot of if i give you something you can give it back to me to ride like it's not why it's not a one way street. It's not as i invited you out here for dinner to make try and understand my point of view. It's let's try and get to understand each other. Mike you know. It's it's symbiotic like you know. It's not a one way right like this. These are my beliefs. These fuck you. You're doing like terrible. Shit like yeah. It's it's really honestly really refreshing to wash this in two thousand and twenty. This course is very interesting. Just a conversation that's all it is. It's just a conversation right this to get you know leary's conversion you know. I'm the last guy. I want to come tap me on the shoulder. I had an epiphany. I'm getting laid six times a day. You know we get a little bit more of excel thieves background sexually abused. You know her family. You know shot. Her dad charter. Family had yeah absolutely But her being like she's like in are really going to do it. Oregon's we'll fuck you average jumps in the in the tub i love. That's a great way to in that scene I will say there's parts of this. And i really don't lie from courtney love but you cannot deny. The chemistry between this is almost like a sit in nancy type relationship. Yes this this is what this feels like very self very like when the heiser fucking hi there. Hi but when the lows are fucking low. They're really really low. Like i did that. It's explosive anyway that you cut it. Larry is eventually baptized. I love the quiet. Quiet director cracks me up time. He's just so into it Larry starts to kind of put pornography and with with religion religion. You know get get it on in the garden of eden. It's like oh my god to that sowed like it's it's almost tasteless to another level like by trying to ascend. He somehow made it even worse of like now. Taking religion and spitting in your eye with that kind of thing. Totally and i wanna. I wanted that as well because someone here asks a. You're only doing this just to selma magazines and that is what the end game like that. Because i was thinking that too. I was like is this some kind of ploy to mix things together. That absolutely should not be together. Like to end up running magazines like. Is that what you're doing. But that's not the case right but he actually had a religious the pisani and it's like totally not kind of like outfitter to assume that he only did this. Magazines are like that like these things should one hundred percent not made of right. No exactly. I love his brother. Jimmy his delivery of the line so great he goes larry. I plead with you not to do this. Delivery is so sincere like terrified. It's it's really great. If you do this you're gonna run this company into the ground and yes arlow arlow is like you're just doing this so amazon's arlo. Don't ever doubt my sincerity. And then vincent she starts laughing. Oh i love instance she availa doing he pops up in form. He's in one. Flew over the cuckoo's nazis and all the moon. He's ns like he is a staple of a lot of shit. Did you ever see ghosts with patrick. Swayze and demi moore involvement is question on the podcasts. Are saying that he is terrifying in that move. Oh look what. He is one of the scariest things. I remember from being from watching that movie as a child. I love a lot of like non scary movies. He is fucking terrifying in ghost duties. Great but this kind of all backfire. Fires on larry nobody spying. You're you're fucking magazines You know he kind of. Has this discussion with with al thea. I can do anything. With god's help i could bring that wall down. It's like do it. then do it. You see jimmy kinda get up off the couch and move like it. He'd probably bullshit but he won't take the chance to to to to risk it But i like this. You know basically in georgia i mike. I'm guessing they don't say specifically which one because this is alan with the eminently reasonable reasonable district attorney and he's basically saying that they want to cut a plea bargain with larry because he Yeah state of georgia. So yeah this is from i. Guess him buying that stopping. Grab whatever place for an hour and basically wanna cop a plea bargain because leary found religion Listen i love that what what. I'm sorry i have to read this word for line. I've i've got a. I've got to read what he says he's sitting there with you and he's like yeah absolutely he's like you need to many favorites like yeah. Yeah give me the second you tell them. Miserable old grey haired basser to go fuck himself. We're going to trial and he's like okay right like oh and god bless place. Lord he shuts has the phone third allen. Plays this oh well. He's just like what he did. You notice larry's thing on his desk like is where jesus vickie did. I'm just taking the piss. He must be taking the piss lightly. Jesus christ jared. I got light. I just laughed. So and what is the. What does the h stand for. That's what i wanna know. Is it herald. Like what is what is h stand for and cry like for you know. I've heard a lot of introduces a lot any forgot. I've never been told the h. For and i mean i'm not asking you as somebody who wasn't raised a christian bad way like i mean. Come on let me say. Actually church. And i'd be a church. Someone who passionately that communion bucket. Now go shoe krahn and then take it and pass it on the next person who you're fucking child of hell. Apparently it's something in in latin. Not oh okay interesting. I'm just curious I think it actually stands for herald. That's what i'm thinking heroin. Jesus christ the mon. My favorite my favorite. Bob can you imagine if it was like the simpsons where it's like herman j simpson. It's just very why a jesus h christ h h. but now i think my favorite I think my favorite kind of like. Oh jesus christ from zodiac wherever Robert downey junior is like jesus christ and rubber crutches. johnny that's my favorite. So we're in georgia's thanking seventy eight mr flint. How can you as a good christian. Defend this filth. This is great so at the end of this movie. you know. we're going to have a little capper where they kind of say. Hey this is what happened. Isaac men would happen charles keating this what they did. Eventually they didn't catch jerry. They didn't catch his shooter but he admitted that he shot larry flint. Okay and i will pull him up real quick. 'cause i looked up the the the the fate of dating because i was like haiti's pretty old so he's not alive anymore and kidding ryan obviously did way In the show someone else. Oh they shot a full. Well full pasta as well right. Yeah jerry follow. You passed away. March six seventy eight during a legal battle related to obscenity and georgia the flint and his lawyer jean reeves junior were returning to kinda courthouse when they were shot on the sidewalk. On the front up in front of the building blah blah blah blah by gum standing near an alley across the street. The shooting left lint Partially paralyzed on core. Damage blah blah blah joseph. Paul franklin a white supremacist. Serial killer confessed to shootings many years later claiming outrage by an interracial photo shoot in hustler. Franklin was never brought to trial he was ever to try for the tip. I would never have guessed that it was the racially related. Like oh man dude. This guy murdered several people on like a race related thing too. And i don't wanna make any excuse. He was later found to be schizophrenic. And this was not a time when that was easily diagnosed. Mental health was not what it is now but he definitely and even larry flint was like he came out and was like i am against the death penalty. I do not want this man to die and they're like he paralyzed. He's like i don't care and he's like he does not deserve die because of that as son of a bitch but he yeah he actually murdered like several other people He was never brought to trial. He's made statements indicating he believes franklin story he was eventually charged in missouri with eight unrelated counts of murder and sentenced to death a month. Before franklin's execution in two thousand thirteen flint expressed his opposition to the death penalty. In stated he did not want him to be executed but he was on november twentieth. Two thousand thirteen executed anyways. But larry flynn says he believes him. You know there's no evidence to prove it. He could just be taking credit for something he didn't really do but it matches him his. Mo of eight other fucking murder so take it as you will Let's say leary shot and paralyzed well. But he survives This is a man the irony and a porn king being shot to no longer be able to procreate. Shane not stopping larry flint though because now he has sex still with use of like a prosthetic. Somehow you can win. I was how yes yes. I don't know what the details are. But i know that he uses something to still fuck his wife wherever he's been married like five times. He definitely uses something some kind of contraption to help him he got out with judge for family guy right or he's got some kind of like stem from upgrade. Like thing imagine. Larry flynt just like right. He's just modern people So when they when they Boyer larry balls depleted depleted reload reload. Please wait three hours for optimum charge level. Nine out of ten. I love you know ruth coming to see him. Larry how are you. You know what short circuits because as comes a week. Shorts backed up a. I'm back. I'm back on it. I'm over here with with ruth carter satan with leary. Fled being paralyzed. And he's like. I can't ever walk again. I'm just thinking. Now yeah right. Tony stark's i. Technology was ever meant to be used this much. Larry you got jill out. The technology falls into the wrong hands. Leary says i can never walk again. If i can't make love to my wife you know i just i wish he'd kill me You know there's no god he renounces everything. I like all this where. It's it's understandable. His reaction is definitely understandable. out the comes back. Take all this christian shutdown. We are going back to our roots. We are smut as happy sir. Happy with it. I love it right. I fucking loved it. I loved them bringing gary home. Yes and They're like so. What do we know is like. Well i think it was the fbi. I thought i think it was. I think it was the kkk. Only never down to like every fucking crazy but the crazy thing is them saying kkk. I think arlo is the one that says racial photo shoots you actually kind of hit the money on the head. Like right That's that's very interesting. You bring that it could be a jfk. Somebody trying to silence You know somebody tried to silence him about that to be someplace where they allow purpose like me and just leave me in peace. Basically is what he says. They move out to california. I believe right. I took this is moving. I don't know what 'cause they showed them in a limo and then they cut back and i don't know what that iconic building is with with the three black domes. I think that i don't know where that is. But i know is his hollywood in the next shot. But it's i don't know what that what that building is it the referring to Apparently this mansion that they Sorry you you say the You say wilshire like one wilshire which is wilshire boulevard in l. a. And then you say the walker fame so yeah. It's definitely doesn't california. Right right in an even says like hollywood but i was wondering what what is this building where i like maybe lead with hollywood sign. Because i don't know what the hell is. Building is showing me Apparently this this mansion was actually larry flint at one point. It's not anymore but then it wasn't at the time of filming but at one point it definitely was leery flange by leary's not doing good You know he's a young obviously strung out on drugs. I gave you twice your dose you. Now he's begging for for more and this is where we see out the kind of start to dip her toe into it as well You know he this is kind of the downward spiral here. This is the merman in the movie where kornilov declined to participate in the rest of the movie and they replaced with holly quin. Because after this us you start looking more and more like holly quin man. It is crazy dude Now i i never really caught like crazy here like all that stuff Yeah they're both. They're shooting up together. Sharon needles What i love though is she. She can shoots up. She passes out and i think right after that is when yeah that door shuts quickly. It's like oh my god like what. What the fuck man. Just six years of your life like gone like that Larry has his like wink. Wink nudge nudge. Call saul dr. Show up This is just goes. Oh yeah. I can totally see. Yeah larry this filter for your diabetes Apparently this guy really was one of the doctors that kind of like under the table helps likely flint blizzard. But he lets note. Hey listen there's a life saving operation This ray we're running out of options you know it's it's it's it's really not looking good and it ends up being a total success. Larry comes out clean on the other side. he's not in any pain quits drugs cold turkey. I love alpha trying to shove the pills like mouth and stuff. This is yeah there may yes. I was just going to mention like you know. He is out of it he was. This conversation is really tough. It's really tough to watch. Because she is quite clearly addicted to drugs right. She's not she's way to fog on. There's no pulling aback and he's just like i took those drugs because i was sick i was injured. That actually made me feel better. Now that i'm feeling better. I have name for and she's she con. Wrap that around ahead right right. Yeah that's that's why lobbyist. I feel good you know. And she's like you feel good. He goes yeah. I feel i feel great. You know and she's i gear either a fucking rooker. You're hooking mirror liar. And he's i. Is it so hard to believe that i don't feel any pain like after the surgery. I think it has like a black widow situation where you know the the woman is like keeping a man like really medic and like ill shaken. Keep taking the drugs. The south right. She just keeps popping his veins at nightfall stop and And yeah that's what's interesting. Though is just like the fact that it's no longer acceptable is unlike. I was taking these because i was in pain. You know this is not this. you're just. You're just a spectator tourists in this Oh well if. I don't take it. I'll go into seizures and i'll get really sick and it makes me feel good. You know. It's all god just every just trying to throw it all the excuses in the world but her he's like you're going to go. Cold turkey goes. I'm going cold turkey and so are you okay. The look on her face. It's like oh god please no here. He but i mean that's essentially. It never really works out though. Never ends up back. She basically never goes cold turkey. As far as i can tell She just she. I don't think she ever really bounce back. He kind of comes back into the fold. I love he calls a shows up. What's your name While what the fuck is her name. I'm drawing a blank. God it sophie is. What's your name. Sophie tom bergeron back in the bag. By the whatever it is back this giant building flint publications. That's big dick energy. Man this is i. Yeah i love how the movie shows like the passing of time. Like i love that. I love saying just how far hustler's become like like it has like hellfire come in the six years that is being in a six year stupa like in our own. Yeah that the changing of the guard you know once they once they get in this guy. Who's like mr flynn. You know i look back at the stuff you did in the seventies and You know and it was sorta racy and crazy but reagan has reshaped an yes cow this guy this asshole the guy who starts talking about reagan is the guy that matt damon goes. How about them apples and good morning. Nice nice nice. I've i recognized. Never seen goodwill hunting. But i know that scene and i i watch and i know that guy and i took me about ten minutes and i found him on i finally they. He is he is. He is credited as blow dried asshole in this view. Seem okay very very tangible. Have you seen johnson. Bob struck back. No oh my god. I need a link. You something afterwards like. There's a scene in that where they go to hollywood and it's literally like partout. Yes it's part to gus. Van sant is like sitting. They counting his money. It's like i'm busy gentlemen. i'm busy. Yeah i've seen that. I definitely know the by definitely. Seen that scene i love. I love a larry shirt. Jesus is an anarchist. This is so good. He opts his shed game. Let we'll get to the courtroom s. Fuck definitely assured gay. I want i so. I so wanted to like his t shirt collection in. This is so good. I want some of those man. Yell larry says on the big kahuna around here. The plan is simple. The establishment took my manhood away from me but they fucked out and they left the part of the brain. I'm gonna use it to get back at them and then being formed this weird thing with like the delorean tapes. Yeah with with norm mcdonald. I love seeing our mcdonnell. Don't normally where the greatest like underrated comedians. There's ever lived. He's absolutely hilarious. I was just waiting waiting for him to just. Where's billy that's cool man. Yeah dude he. I saw an interview where he was on conan. O'brien with some. I think one of the co stars of chairman of the board with carrot top and like the early nineties. Terrible carrot top movie and nor mcdonald is just like. Oh what's his mommy guy going on ear and she's like oh it's called chairman of the board with a carrot top and he's like oh you know what another another really good movie. It would be a society's poison. He's just making these terrible jokes and conan o'brien's so there is no than the name of the movie is to be determined right and she goes. Oh no it's chairman of the board and conan's like okay chairman of the board and he looks at nor mcdonagh's try to someone head you sick freak and norfolk. Donald goes mcdonnell goes chairman of the b. o. r. e. d. And did i lost my shit. It's so fucking clever and funny man but This he's got this tape basically saying that i'm still confused. Honestly by of this. What exactly is going on. I believe he's trying to say that this is in treatment on the fbi or the cia. Post i believe what actually happened. And i don't know if he i don't know if this actually you know Affected the the case which delorean. I actually think that At this at this point in the movie larry flint is just bang as much of an anarchist as possible and trying to bring down the in any way shape or form as possible will making them look bad publicly as possible so again. Six eight in his arm vessel guises we are going to. I'm going to publicly publicly. Bring down the government whether it's the fbi cia. Whether it's you know whoever that is trying to prosecute me in any other way possible. And i think that's the that's the. I guess the the point of this whole kind of thing this. Yeah this was up into a huge thing like the fbi gets pissed and everything like this is a a houston right And this this Nine hundred eighty two delory and was charged by the us government for trafficking cocaine following videotape sting operation bubble blah. The fbi set him up with more than sixty pounds of cocaine worth about six point. Five million in a hotel or hotel hotel near l. a. f. arriving from l. a. After arriving from new york. And the faa i say delory. I think we briefly mentioned this on the back to the future episode. Did very i think we did. Yeah basically what happened. They said he was a financier to help his financially declining company in a scheme to sell two hundred and twenty pounds of blow estimated at twenty four million dollars Now the crazy thing is a former neighbor who reported to his fbi superiors that delorean had approached to ask him about setting up. A cocaine deal in truth has his former neighbor Same as james hoffman had called delorean and suggested the deal which he accepted as part of hoffman's efforts to receive a reduced sentence for a nineteen eighty-one federal so. This guy was in trouble. And set up john laura and basically created something to get to save himself time taking together And basically hoffman whose name was redacted and the original diamond also say that he was aware of delorean's financial troubles before he contacted him Taken together these two elements allow delorean to successfully defend himself at trial. With procedural defense of police entrapment so he got out of these charges. Because it was technically entrapment. And i guess that's basically what the issue of with the video is that this is video evidence later on larry. Flint said this was not that this was staged. This was not true. however i'm ninety nine percent. Sure this footage that they use for the movie is actually john delorean's like i think that is actually john delorean getting busted But this whole thing is very interesting. Your him going back and forth with You know Fucking fucking with shod lorient tape and stuff and how much trouble it gets him. And it's just absolutely insane. I just the fact that it. It played a contributing factor to john. Delorean getting getting out of a huge. He would have probably have gone to prison for the rest of his life. Like that's absolutely insane. Two hundred twenty pounds of blow yet right. You're fucking god dude see ya. That's insane right absolutely We kinda see this Campari ad the liquor. Campari this is a jerry. Falwell talks about his first time. This is really. Were starting to get again. We're getting kind of like fed. Dropped this i guess jerry falwell kind of kind of aspect of stuff larry over the subpoena to give up the source of his tape. I was gonna take this chunk because they go back and forth back and forth back and forth him going to court Burly by favorite part of this whole thing is you know. He issues a he issues bench bench warrant for his arrest. He refuses to give out the source. The best part has got to be when he was like keeping a very tight leash on your You know on your client. He is not leave. The state of california and it just cuts to running across one word. But i also love him like in the chair in the wheelchair just like like watching the monitors as like they come together as soon as the warrant ride and he's just like waiting for abc. He's like come on. Come on it. Yes. this is absolutely this this my you one. My favorite moments of the whole movie is when they start storm in his house. He's got the shirt says. I wish i was black. And i'm like oh my god dude. What the fuck but yeah he he. Basically i've i've turned the whole world into a tabloid is his whole thing like damn. That's that's fucking crazy but yeah this whole thing can really be summarized by that you know. He gets over the bench award for his arrest. He refuses to show up for the subpoena. Eventually he is fine ten. He's gonna find him ten thousand dollars a day if he refuses to give up a source. I the hustler. Chicks coming into the money on the fourth so fucking baller dude bugging love it all star not hold up and i mean like you are not right. The code never specified. What i mean like how it's gonna take its payment right. Yeah Now this whole thing where he actually. I read a little bit about this. He was talking about this woman. I think vicki morgan You know she was alfred. Alfred bloomingdale's mistress and she did like alfred. Bloomingdale is really good friends with reagan's and she was basically an escort and Alfred bloomingdale set her up huge and when he died his wife cut her off. You know obviously And it ended up being a big thing where she was writing a book to expose a lot of people and her roommate beat her to death with a baseball bat And it's fucking really random. A lot of people thought she was set up to be murdered. But unfortunately the guy was just crazy and beat to death But what. They say what she would've expose would have really blown wide. Open a lot of crazy shit about these people and Larry comes in. He's at the you know the helmet on. He's wearing the american flag diaper. Espace fifty thousand dollars in bail like right on the spot this time. We'll take a cashier's check This is the great. This is great the last time he's in this core but this this judge the fucking white suit and a black shirt that says fuck this court and like dude. I really think you'd get away with that. I don't think you'd get away with that like there's just. I'm sorry. I sign like this judge and the we get off this i just before the supreme court there is no standing for this like you wouldn't even be allowed inside. The court stopped at the doors. You know there's this right. And i like it because it he toned down and the supreme court you know he just sits in the back. She's chill. i don't think he. I don't know if he has anything. I don't remember anything vulgar on like he's just kind of chilling the back eating orange. I do remember him eating the orange from giving the ryan's to the security guard. Throw away. i just that makes me laugh. My favorite part of this whole thing is he's like you know who sorry you're ready to reveal your source samarai. He's like excuse me. He is like is curly undergoing acupuncture treatment for groin injury. And alan trist odds okay allen. That's my favorite date. I will die laughing. It has delivery of that You know he he. Fires alan alan's like you know what fuck you i've had enough. I'm re represent yourself There's no cursing in this courtroom. He starts spitting. They put a gag on them. We recommend this. Is you know we were talking about the trial of the chicago. Seven this happens in. The trial is regarded as evan. Not legal Because you instantly make like well look. It's not because you'll physically assaulting someone but also to the jury i didn't think does the jury amount among particular show but like in that in that movie you've made your Defendant look sympathetic. Because he's being like gag of injuries just like oh my god god being gag. That's a automatic mistrial deb but like here is just like that is not acceptable in the court of law. I'm sorry you just con- gag someone i feel. I watched like a bunch of courtroom. I love watching like courtroom freak outs and stuff like that. Where people get sentenced. You know they murdered some kid a cry for like forty minutes. 'cause it's two nine hundred years in prison But i've seen one of those like recently like like in the last five years. Somebody with a ball gag in their mouth because they were either talking or spitting or something they were looking at the victims families and saying just crazy ship they ball gag this fucking guy and as For the shit he was saying. I remember being thank you. Jesus christ but i mean really what do you expect. They put they put this ballgame. They tape his mouth to act normal. He said immediately throws an orange and he's fighting to the bitter end he's rippin the mic out of the table You know he asked for bail because he's being sentenced to fifteen months at a maximum. You know a psychiatric facility. And larry flynt was totally to be like bipolar. Later on he is He is kinda fucked up. Yeah and yeah. This is where she this. This definitely again feels like another lapse of time. We're larry is just in this like loss. He's just in this limbo But as this is going on this is where these divinity students at liberty university. Bring the campari add up to jerry. Falwell you know and there's you know the whole thing about him having sex with the mother in an outhouse dude this is so great love Yeah and yeah a bright right on the heels of that everything is starting to crash down around larry flint. You're in psychiatric prison You are going to be sued by jerry. Falwell here in just a little bit alpha tells you she has aids you know that. She's basically extremely sick sick sick as she puts it and she has aids Larry jeez dude. He looks insane. Double like the bloodshot eyes But what's really fucked up. That makes me really sad about this. As she says nobody at hustler will shake her hand. Nobody will talk to her. And at the time like you know that was kind of a fear that people didn't know how you got aids. Do they thought you could share a drink toilet seat and that's how you got it You know but the fact that it actually is like. I remember the first time watching this and getting kind of emotional because you see even the larry is fucked up. Even the larry is just gone. The second the walks in and she's like people won't shake my hand and he kinda tears up and he's like they won't look at you like they won't talk to you. It doesn't give a fuck about himself. All he gives a shit about as i i. My actions landed me here. But you are out there and that is not how the people i built in my empire will treat you. I think that's so fucking awesome. I love that sofi. Oh yes sir. Yes sir code. Pink code pink. I love pink pussy. that's his code. Can i yeah. Yeah i was i was just gonna ask. Did you read the rail. Jerry falwell no. It didn't so to be a chimney. It's okay look. I'm not going to go through all of it but let me let me. Just try and raise them. This is the. This is the fake. Campari ad hustler. Put up. And this became obviously the landmark falwell versus hustler case. But anyway this is the article. I falwell on what. My first time was in an outhouse outside. Lynchburg virginia interview Wasn't it a little cramped falwell not offer. I kick the guard out. Interviewer c. e. must tell me all about it full. Well i never really expected to jamaica with mom but then after she shared all the other guys in towns such a good time. I figured what the hell interview your mom. Isn't that a little bit odd full. Well i don't think so. Look star main watched me woman. Interviewer gone foil well. We were drunk off. Outgoing god-fearing office. On campari ginger ale. And sorta that's called. The fire and brimstone time and mom looked better than mum. Look better and mom looked better than a baptist or one hundred dollars donation. Oh my god. I'm gonna read his whole thing. Actually it's not too much longer. Yeah interviewer campari in the crop. With mom how interesting. Well how was it bulwell. The campari was great. But mom pasta before i could come interview. Did you ever try again. Bulwell sure lots of times but not an ad house between mom and the shit. The flies were too much to bear in a home mike viola. We meant the campari. Well always get sloshed. Before i go to the pulpit you could lay down all that bullshit dear cheese. That is amazing. That's the entire article that fuckin- here's the thing i think that's amazing and i hate jerry. Falwell bud that is like that's that's almost asking for. That's almost like putting target on your back. But i you have incest. You have an outhouse. You have liquor you have have like loss against you have this the slot against religion at the end ride like i contact that bullshit with drunk. Yeah the like. It's all in that right. Who may sweat. And i don't believe any average like oh and really tell. I mean this the veracity of that. Yeah if i was doing well. I'd find hot against that as well. That's fight that has some venom to it. That's got some now. That's rough oh Who solari calls and he fires everybody. You know which is kind of they kind of take half-heartedly out the goes to see alan They're getting you. Don't see exactly what it is. But they're being sued by jerry falwell Aluna's take it to whoever larry's lawyers are an you are are lawyers. Alan like i. I'd like her delivery here. She's good there are moments where she's where she's really good. She actually was with ever norton for like a few years overnight over time Had to be physically carried into the office. Yeah at this point. It's like you know. I admit if somebody comes back near like a you have aids i would be larry worse the drugs like fucking hit me do like i'm gonna stay fucking i'm going to stay doped up There's just no way. I would stick my dick anywhere near according to of them. Sorry looks like aids like if you would have put son of life hades here like she looks like it. Well it's it's not innuendo. You're wrong with the character of south. She's been fucked up on drugs. She she's dying of a terrible disease but like personally no no way in. Hell there's something about courtney love that. Just kinda scares me. And i don't know what it is. There's a really really great book. I think is called like love and death but it's about cocoa baynes air quotes suicide And they try to point a lot of stuff too corny. love of courtney. Love's dad according to loves dad meet mallika grocery store and then drives like fifteen minutes to the other side of town to make sure that courtney love has not followed the guys that are following her. Dad dad is like i will. I will not have anything to do with her And apparently france being cobaine pain you know their daughter Kirkman daughter apparently that she won't as far as i can tell they have like a really bad feud between the two of them But i just man. What a talented fucked up individual. But he Alan goes to see. Larry tells them he's i. Hey i know. The timing is lousy but little campari ad. And i love leary's kind of like yeah you know. Won't jerry fall on his out house mother. Yeah i'll well he saw it And i guess it's safe to say he didn't really find it all that funny and he is suing you for forty million dollars. And it's like like the air sorry for libel and intentional infliction of emotional distress. And he's asking for forty million dollars and the the way larry's face he's just gone. He's jerry falwell. Yes this is jerry falwell in his home state soon you for forty million dollars And it's genius because this is not. Obviously i don't think that literally just had his back pocket. It probably took some research to figure out exactly what happened. He suing me for heaven's sake. On what grounds well you xerox does add and you sit it out and you send it out in a million fundraising gladys success. Oh and you didn't ask permission. That's copyright infringement of his president bounds like valmont as well be the line of the movie. The depth of his birdies knows no bounds. That could be the tagline the posta right and this is larry. I mean at his worst. This quarter appears. He's banging his head against the metal on the on the van The us district court roanoke virginia nineteen eighty-four allen east. Jerry falwell's asked for breakfast so this is so good him just absolutely tearing apart you know. He sets him up. He's like you know you achieved certain notoriety. You're you're a great man. You've done a lot of stuff he's like. You ever had sex with your mother at suckling right up. It's like an uppercut dude You're the you're the more majority. Your membership is over five million You've been awarded and recognized for efforts all over america. This is he setting him up so well that even fall follow can't the he is setting he is setting you up. You are the person of the year in good housekeeping. So how could anybody reasonably think that this is what happened. And i'll admit having to add read to me. It depends on if you it is. I can see where somebody might take that seriously. You know if they don't get the context of it that's the only thing if they don't get the context i get that but it is so ridiculous and eventually you have to hit a point go. There's no way jerry falwell said this like there's no fucking that's how i mean like look we. We live in a world right now in. Twenty twenty with satire is so rampant. And it's everywhere it's in it's announced social media. It's tv movies. I mean south park like family guy. All of these things is a typical dagnon. The like yeah we have we have a thank. You called the advocate which calls out like all of these like satirical it. It's it's interesting to me sort of an interesting to me. It's just it's hard for me to imagine a world west seattle. I like this didn't exist and people took it seriously like you know like we sir I guess spoiled that satellite where it's to the point where it's hard to tell what's real and what's not to the point where he being legit 'cause like if you're making a joke but like here it's just like like we don't even understand subtle like they speak. Do when you need to explain a jerk to someone that's when the jerk didn't really work ride really but then that's also because you made that jerk not understanding your audience right so like you didn't really understand who you tell telling this jerk charters and now you'll falls to explain it like that's kind of what this reminds meals. No yeah absolutely And i think that's only gotten worse as time has gone on because with with inter deepfakes was some like. There's been how. how many times have you seen. Somebody share an onion article on ironically. Yeah and so you have to explain to them now. That's that's a joke like you don't you don't get out So i ask. Have you ever gotten any ever had a few too. Many lunch. Went back to the radio is now that is a totally outrageous suggestion. And he's like that's outrageous. You don't think that some people despite your reputation might have reason to believe that you could do that. I would find it very difficult to believe. And he has signed his own death. Warrants a reasonably. You're telling me that nobody can think that these statements about you re true. Yes that's what. I've been saying all right here we go. I let me get my four can knife. 'cause i'm gonna put my bib on. Have your shoe see porky pig. Southern asks for dinner. This is so good. Oh dude this guy he looks. He looks kind of delicious re prologue at the beginning of this trial. Judge kirk gave very specific instructions to the jury. He says she said if a reasonable person could not believe that hustler. Magazine describes actual facts about jerry. Falwell than you must dismiss the libel claim. Like do you remember this. And he's he's obviously not. That's so fucking good. You know what is as like. Why are you so in my client reliable. He's a lawyer mr isaac sanchez. Great because i'm a lawyer. I can't figure it out either. This is probably my favorite scene with ever norden. Why almost quoted this word for word as he just destroys him. But it sucks because you. You feel allen's frustration. Where he does all of this he is fucking michael jordan out there and then you know larry turned around us. This like foul can crazy. Birsh it my god. Yeah far well the whole thing about oh yes. Christopher columbus like once again. When when you see allen take the case and it's just like god dang you don't really know what you're in full and then like seeing him work hot defend this guy like you and look in the story of the movie he got shot ride like granting you didn't get shot in real life but in the story of the movie got shot literally took a bullet for this guy and he is still going to bat for you even if you publicly fired him. Which by the way was on a public record like that would have been recorded right Like he is still going bad for your and you'll still gonna do this like faatoia. Shit like bright moments like this. That doesn't i. Don't think that woody housing and meals foreman intentionally set out to make larry flint flint. Likable by the end. I think he's supposed to be like we're supposed to understand his point of view in that he is publishing content that we that that should be published ride like that people would want to say but he's supposed to be super lockable. A supervise one hundred percents of athletic. All the time right and and you can. Actually i appreciate you can find him in court. It's points during this time on youtube like there's video of real airy flint. That's very interesting. But are you also known as larry flint. He's a k. Faa jesus h esquire and allen's react. Jesus christ for christ's sake that's what he says. God damnit that so good But yeah he's basically says you know. John is sir fucking patient. Ter- like she's right quiet in the courtroom you is that all you have to say is that all you have to say right. We'll anything i love. He's i. I haven't that mr will is a liar. A glutton sheep a file and he's like you know euchre deliberately created this you know he wanted to You wanted to 'cause my client trouble. He's like he wanted to destroy his character to assassinated. And it's like oh that's such so good man. I fucking love this yeah this whole thing mocking about you know religious. You know a religious leaders and politicians and stop. And it's the one time. That larry actually kind of hold so what he's saying he's like. What was your intention to hold. So it was your intention to hold him as a hypocrite. Yeah what he is. As i this one time you cut through the bullshit and actually say what you mean and stick to it and our when he actually admits it. It's really refreshing. It's this like all like for us like fully ends. It's like a breath of fresh air. Yes it was your intent to destroy his integrity his livelihood. If you could to assassinate it that's so fucking great Of course it's a weird decision He does not. he's not guilty of lyle liable. He's an Inflicting emotional distress yesterday on two hundred thousand dollars of course fart. Well-considered this the win. This is where you know. A- larry. I think i think larry eventually is able to come home after this and he comes back to hustler magazine. Everybody thinks she's going to get fired. The security guard that always with him. He's got the mustache kind of like the crew. Cut kind of the bigger guy. Same as doug he is actually at the time was leery flint's bodyguard real bodyguard And i like this. He comes back and everybody thinks you know. They're fired and he calls over jimmy he's like. It's cool bro. Don't worry about it. Like you can kind of see the larry is cooling off that he's getting back to his normal load cell and i love everybody. You remember alpha. And it's yes. I fucking love that dude. Like because there's moment to watch larry and he's a fucking crazy person and he's calling themselves. Jesus squire then. He's like no you shake her fucking hand. As yes like this woman that we worked with for years that sat around tables with us and we joked and stuff you do not treat her any fucking differently. Like i love that. I think i think fantastic. But i mean it's kinda yeah it's it's short lived though Unfortunately this this scene is really hard to watch as she goes to take the bath. Leary gives her a ride in there and he's talking to the doctors. What are they doing in europe. You know you know. The money is no option. Basically i'll do anything to to save to save her life. unfortunately I think officially she drowned to death. I b but like i said larry flynt said that she would die within the year. Anyways right yeah exactly. Yeah flynn says that at the time she was in advanced stages of aids and would have died within the year regardless of that point who taking care of in claims that she was practically bedridden Dude she was the fourth wife of larry flint. Yeah well i think the longest run into. I think i might be wrong. I think unless there's one that kinda beat that record but This is this is. This is what such sets in motion. A train of events We jerry follow you. Cannot ma god. You cannot full god if you violate his laws. God almighty will judge you see here. Eight is a plague and this is crazy. Shit that he would actually say these perverted lifestyles have to stop. I am going to read a small something. Don anything not crazy. This is on. This is a a an article composed the worst of jerry falwell. Now this has definitely this stuff. That's absolutely true. Jerry falwell said on september the eleventh this is quoted word for word the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this. Because god will not be mocked and when we'd and when we destroy forty million little innocent babies we make god mad. I really believe that. The pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and lesbians who are actively trying to make that alternative lifestyle to The aclu people for the american way. All of them who have tried to secularize america. I point the finger in their face. And say you helped this happen. Jesus thousands of an actual that was on the fucking day. September the eleventh bigger issues with the fuck. Oh this is jerry fall on feminist. I listened to him list feminist. And all these other gal's these women just need a man in the house that's all we need. Most of the feminist need a man to tell them what time of day it is to lead them home and they blew it and they're mad at all men feminist hate men their sexes. They hate men and that's their problem. I i one hundred percent believe that he was fucked me auspey price when he was younger. I mean there's no way that he wasn't like that is Here's here's one that will hit home for you. Jerry falwell on islam. I think mohammed was a terrorist. I read enough of the history of his written of his life written both by muslims and non muslims that he was a violent man. A man of war show jerry follows. Jerry i just i just wish it cut to like like an old eighty like sitcom audience i. I'd just like everybody laughing. What a buck piece of shit dude. Seriously a man have passed away in two thousand seven of a massive coronary while. I mean look at them. There's a his sons really a piece of work to you. Know i don't wanna get into that But there's a great. There's a great quote from christopher hitchens where he said What once said if you could give jerry falwell senior anima than you could bury him in a matchbox as like. Oh fuck fuck. That is such a great. Put down this guy so full of shit But anyways that's really what sparked this whole thing with with Larry that he wants to take this higher to the supreme court. The great team between him ever more than you know why they would probably hear us and this is the court this is the kind of cases that lawyers kill for. They dream about it and they would probably hear us. I'm not taking you larry. He's i i don't believe your bullshit anymore. I think that's great. It's the one time you really see somebody. Kinda stand ups larry. And you watch larry buckle under the bullshit and i can't. I can't do this on my own out. The has gone. A lot of my friends are gone. A lot of these people are gone. Like i have to kind of he to someone else's call if i wanna be able to take this higher. I wanna basically have been jau thea in a symbolic way. I think that's really You know he says straight up. He's like we're friends. He's like you know this. Is you know i. I liked that that this goes beyond just just professional relationship. I would love to be remembered for something meaningful. i think. That's really really cool I'd love james cromwell gibs volleyball's attorney the stack of hustlers. He's like the tin man goes. Yes that's the tin man. That sounds good so the supreme court. Here's the case. This whole scene is really fantastic. Like you said it's fun to see kind of isaacson cutting up with the supreme court justices as What did think about this being the climax of the movie. Well one of them is a judge. Antonin scalia who is Like like the i guess. The one of the guy one of the judges that worked with Cheney when he when he came up with the law. I guess what is god damn. It was used in the movie vice. A basically it's it's it's emergency palace and how vice president can use palace But yeah it looks. Clear is like bigger than he's he's lodged than life. This was good man. I really enjoyed this. This is this is really great to watch. It was interesting to watch like this being a bit lighter than what i expected like. This was the lafayette cracking jokes. I was like cool. Yeah i thought that was interesting. Like seeing them kind of everything's been so like uptight and everybody's being so serious so far and to see them kind of just cracking jokes. These we wanted to bring jerry falwell down to our level. I level that was admittedly much lower than his not supposed to join. But that's appoint hardly yeah. Well that's what i was gonna say. This is like my favorite edward moment. Like this is the morale is just like fuck. Yeah you're you're really selling You're really selling flint's kind of like point of view and that's really what you can like nature and he's he's doing is doing such a great job at it absolutely dude absolutely You know this whole scene is great. You know he saying we just want less deflate. This structured bring him down to our level and what was the point of this ad. He's like you know. It's no different than gary trudeau saying that. Reagan has no brain or johnny carson. Saying what he says on the tonight. Show you know. I think shuttle. Right when i think it's actually scalia. Who starts talking about the rule of public sites of satire What about other people who value should be able to enter a public life and the public service the rule you give us as that if you stand for public office or a public figure in any way you cannot protect yourself or indeed your mother against a parody of committing incest with her at an outhouse Do you think the george washington would have stood for public office if that wisconsin wins I love the comparison that he does. You know that. There's a political cartoon for over two hundred years ago with employing a donkey and it says oh. This stocky is leading an ass to washington. I can handle. That jordan handled that i think joyce can tiredly dirt absolutely. I mean you're in the public spotlight. You're going to have to expect it. You just you just like it's just going to happen. People are gonna make judge to agree with your your policies like you know so. Expect some level of I guess criticism rheinland criticism in the form of seattle right when in evens like squeezed one. Who goes is there any. That's a far cry. And he's like it's might be a far cry in terms of taste but not in terms of content. You know that technically their textbook the same thing It's it's just satire. that's all it is You know and basically Yeah they they kind of the kind of go back and forth and he kinda makes his point. I liked it. We don't really hear anything from jerry. Falwell side of things that we don't hear their arguments that it's really this is. This is edward norton moment to like this has his fighting drako in russia. This is his life taking all taken this shit to task. And he's so well-spoken he says such a So great but outside the courtroom. He's like a of the way the way that he says. Is i Because that's the first memo protect. What had grumman commie scumbags got like me will protect all of you. I hate larry. Do you have any regrets. And i was like jesus talked about setting somebody up and for like only we. We need a good transition year but it's sad. The way they to the house the empty swimming pool all the shrubs like dead. But you can tell. The party is over like like. That's at this feels like georgiana monologue at the end of blow. It's fucking over man. We see these giant empty rooms. Big picture of al. It's really fucking sad and just watching him. You know saying these old home movies. His wife is alive. He's not paralyzed anymore. allen 'cause i brought Brought their decision in Well it's unanimous unanimous decision lady in rehnquist's Larry o'brien quist wrote it himself. He's a cut the bullshit al. Now i want to hear this At the heart of the first amendment is recognition of the fundamental importance of the free flow of ideas. Freedom to speak. One's mind is not only an aspect of into an individual liberty but essential to the quest for truth and the vitality of society as a whole and the world of debate about public affairs. Many things don with motives that are less than arable are nonetheless protected by the first amendment. Love it love it. Love it fucking love it and he just says thank you. Allan thank you. Don't mention click. Hang up the phone and of movie. That's it me. The man like it's it's such a great Such a good way to go out like such a good way for the movie to go out on unita watch. The i like the steven spielberg's the parts like really really really similar. Kind of like. I guess the matic's ride i mean like it's all about fest amendment and the freedom of speech and liberty. Tom hanks tom hanks is the lady. Tom hanks straight got really really awesome. but yeah i love this story too. I love the idea of this young kid from kentucky or you know used to sell moonshine changed the way people you're the first amendment and view the law and like. Yeah it's it's really really such an important story. And i can't believe i'd never seen it before. Sorry i'm kinda getting into my closing thoughts. I guess Yeah go for it. Yeah they were here mandy. Yeah i love it. I love this city. I think is really important. I think it's really well acted. I think it's really. Well shod well-directed woody house and his goddamn pow awesome this movie. It's such an important story and it's so into it like it's so entertainingly told it's a black. It's black comedy. It's not a heavy hefty drama. And it's just. I actually think it's really watchable at conway took actually go back and watch it. So i'm glad you d- this is. This is really fantastic movie. Hell yeah dude Yeah i i. I could sit here and probably talk about this movie for like another three hours. Because it's got the humor like you said it's really a deep down yet bio-pic but it's also a bio pic about a guy who threw fighting kind of his own demons and through sabotage at every corner. This guy pave the way for a lot of shit and that shit may or may not be good shit but it shit regardless that alan is have been set great. I love that. I live in a country where i can pick that up where i can throw it away. The ultimately that's what it comes down to like maybe in the morning i wake up. I want coffee water. Melker orange juice. Maybe i want one of those but if you come in and say all this is legal because of some bullshit reason and it doesn't hurt anybody. Yes kind of bullshit. I at least want the option of that at least want the freedom of that. This movie is full philosophically and morally really really interesting. I i think there's still so much meat on that bone when it comes to censorship. If the i love talking about censorship especially eighties and ninety censorship getting that parental warning on avance. Mpaa started cracking down after harrison. Ford god. Damnit indiana jones because indiana jones. Safe for me for me. The interesting part of it is essential. Censorship for the advantage of the government like Like not not right for the advantage of the papal but for the government like to protect the government's interests are and god again. I'm i'm comparing to pars because the post is a censorship for the advantage of the government as they tryin conceal important information about the vietnam war and things things done things that are necessary for the public interest like things that it is important for the public to the things like that man. I'm just like damn it like that really interests me man. I love that stuff. Yeah absolutely Fundamentally someone who was raised not far away from from larry flint and but years and years and years later like i understand that the struggle of trying to break free of that. Especially your your stuff around you I can really relate to to him in in terms of you know. I love his head on his bad taste and selling a magazine. you know. that's basically ed but people act like That this thing is a world inter when it comes down to it and unfortunately living in a state. That is very end wrong. There's parts of tennessee are very nashville's very liberal. You know a lot of cal. College towns get very liberal But unfortunately living in a state that really does kind of want to turn it into mayberry from Andy griffith you know. They want to act like this is still the fifties and not on a lot of places but there are some hold outs left. That seriously need to kind of change it up. And i think that that is fundamentally shaped who i was as a person and i did not fit in in a group of people who are like. I was questioning things and saying. Hey this is not making sense. This does not this religious thing. Or you know. Even though i believe this. I don't think that you know if we weeded onto the same school together and they made you say the pledge of allegiance. And you're like i don't believe in the same god. I would be pissed that you had to do that. I've never been a fan of that. I think that's absolute horsh shit Even somebody who went to a private christian school for multiple years. I was like this place is bullshit and second weather doing is bullshit. I'm totally fine with if you believe whatever you want to believe it keep it at fucking home and keep it out of my house. And i'm like and i don't care what it is you know all i want message. Yes exactly keep your goddamn god out of my house. Now i'm just kidding. Ultimately at the end of the day be nice to people. Don't be a dick. That's my that's my. That's my christmas message to everybody. Now i fucking loved this movie. I think this is probably a ten out of ten. I will never get tired of watching this. I seriously i worked from eight. Am till six pm. And i repeatedly watch this as. I was walk as i was working. I didn't sit down to just watch it six times back back but i just. I would just restarted as soon as i stopped. 'cause i just loved this world of hanging out and doing drugs banging unprotected sex and you know maybe possibly fucking jimmy carter sister in a in a peanut farm but but ultimately it's it's also crazy. We really didn't talk about the shoulders. That larry flint rubbed of political intrigue. And you know smut peddlers and you know a lot of presidential shit. Jackie o jimmy carter jr the supreme court like a lot of crazy shit for a guy who sells a porno magazine. And it's really. It's really quite interesting. But i fucking loved this movie If you want something very interesting on censorship the ben twisted sister doth edifice. Take out okay. their lead singer. Dee snyder had go before some bullshit committee that was like alan tipper gore in the late eighties or early nineties about censorship in music. And he absolutely pulled. An isaac managed that ask for breakfast and he shows up in like blue jeans. That are cut up a sleeveless blue. Jean vast with like a t shirt has hairs down everywhere. He pulls a piece of paper out of his back pocket. That's all folded and he starts to read this like unbelievably amazing speech and just destroys them and apparently denied. Twisted sister had written some songs that was about their bass player's throat surgery and it was kind of a graphic song and tipper gore wife was like. Oh well this song is about sadomasochism. Bedia sam he goes. I would affirm that if tipper gore found sado-masochism bedia symonette song. She was looking for only like. It's really good. I strongly urge anybody to to check that out. i think that It's anything with censorship. Anything like that is really really really interesting. But i think that's going to kind of wrap it up for us guys. It's been a great year I wanted in this podcast on a bang. I think we've done that so far. Really enjoyed this episode. If you like again if you wanna check out any of our staff we tagged soldiers at the beginning but a big thing that if you have any questions or anything like that. You can't find something. It's probably at midnight double feature dot com or you can go to patriot dot com slash midnight double feature sign up for the green room. It's five dollars. They're crazy europe. You can't support us if you can spare. The five bucks stopped by rate views on itunes That's free helps. Podcast immensely really helps us out of the gate with with other podcasts. Kind of sets us apart. We hope that you guys have a safe and a fun. Christmas hanukkah whatever. Whatever the fuck you say. Boxing day or whatever the fuck you celebrate we hope you guys enjoy it You know go rub one out on us. We'll see you guys later spanish took.

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Happy Birthday Don! - The Power Trip [FULL SHOW]

The Power Trip

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Happy Birthday Don! - The Power Trip [FULL SHOW]

"Dan. Listen threes just came in for last month. We are number one. We just grabbed every key Democrat. Bird. Ago Neto. Is. Good. News your brain, are you mad Do you feel like Bob Vantage. Big Pook. Google. gaveled. Is there, and I'm just guessing here's some kind of medication that you may need a lot of and have taken none of or maybe too much. It is the Thirteenth Day of August twenty. Twenty happy Thursday morning to you by name is Chris. Thanks for tuning in today we have Ron. Johnson as Tommy. Oh could not make it had been lied bristow vacation. So Ron Johnson, Mark Rosen, Zach myself, and double be a cast of thousands and so much to get to. Let's get started with some comedy from Peterlee Jim. Gaffe again again, I'm Chris Hockey. I am glad you are here. My wife is a New Yorker. So she likes the bus, my chops. Taking pilates with her just so she could make fun of me in front of New People. We get there. She's I guess WHO's here my husband I wear the pants and this relationship. I was like, yeah, but I washed them. Just for that little gem, shrink your jeans a little and make you feel back. And there's a female bodybuilder class. Have you ever seen one of those ladies I wouldn't make one her, but she makes. A girly man what's up man? There her name's tiffany but nicknamed or Greg. But I'm pretty sure she's stronger than me because her wait thirty pounds in my weights or purple. Dude what are you bench of Islet? My wife kind of like a gruff smokers voice. She's beautiful picture like a pretty little butterfly just floated down in Atlanta on the back of your hand it was like over gone. First Time I met her I was like, are you talking into a fan? You ever find yourself being lazy for no reason at all like you pick up your mail, you go on your house. Realize you have a letter for a neighbor, the lettering go. Looks like they're never getting S. Pay, too, much energy to go back outside. Stick it on a Euro Hannah, get that to them later on. Right. Now you gotTa Watch Love Connection He. Gets new host on their. You ever have one thing to do all day. You just can't get yourself to do. I gotTa go to the Post Office. I'd probably have to put on pants. Only, open 'til five. Next week. A little more free time. I never have free time. Yeah. I. Don't know about you whenever I go to ever cash machine there's two people in line in front of you get Kinda of fluffy like forget it. I'm not standing here for forty seconds. I got things to do. Some nights being lazy can get you in trouble like you ever not take a shower I'll weekend. Just lounge around then you're running late for work on. Monday. One person it works. Like smoke in here. I wanted to a barbecue on Friday night. At forty hours, stick a shower. How Stephen Colbert mentioned last night that the election is something like eight three days away and he said in Corona virus time. That's three showers. Yeah. No kidding. Am I the only one showering every day. What the hell man. Showering every day I everything. I ate it I don't understand the people like I don't have to go to work I. Don't want to shower who doesn't want a shower I hate that feeling now. Your ass, you dirty. Yeah, there's no doubt. There's the stinky part favorite parts in general just wake up. Yeah. That's the thing I I am not awake until I get in the shower one, hundred percent this I mean this morning I was like the walk from my bed to my bathroom to get in the shower I was the the worst person in the world. We're wishing death on everybody. I was hoping for an asteroid soon, the water hit I was like hey, ain't so bad. This one more time. One, hundred percent. That's almost two decades for me to I hate. Yes soon as you start sharing your like I'm awake might as well go radio that is exactly L. during everyone every morning. That's the number. One question. Right when somebody finds out, you do radio it's like, wow, what's it like getting up? At three thirty or four in the morning. That's the easy part, right? Yeah. Staying awake and productive, the rest of it has. Deer near impossible man I. Know I love when people are like, Hey, I would love free to do something very fun at noon. You want me to do you want me to five thirty at night. Sure. I'll probably be up and got. One Yeah. How about this? How about nine thirty, five bright you meet me somewhere asking us to do something at noon. would be the equivalent of asking normal nine to five or like, Hey, you wanna get together at two thirty in the morning. No that's what I'm sleeping. That's what I'm sleeping the hardest. Out Cold noon. When you wake up usually. Three forty five during the day then yeah. Yeah. That's like after noon. One Ish I'm normally like an eleven to one kind of a sleeper. I wake up on purpose or yeah normally. Yeah. Well, things he when you have a wife and kids if you take a six hour nap, you get riddled with guilt trip. So I absolutely said a a nap alarm and I I hate that alarm just as much to one in the morning. I went to the having some time is worse to be honest with you wake up. You know the sun's shining through and I'm I'm sweaty and gross. I didn't really get a good nap because somebody decided to do something downstairs. For. This right when the alarm goes up at four o'clock in the morning I, I'm getting up in at least GonNa go have fun and do radio. This is a fun job. goes off at one bed means I gotTA GET STUFF DINO? I gotta try to be productive around the house or at least make it look like an burns. Here's the worst thing for me to, which is sometimes even more work just to make it look like your work get up from a nap and a good on stairs and walk into the. Kitchen. And I'm still so tired. I can barely walk. My is way forty, thousand pounds I smell I'm crusty I got nothing to look forward to. And and then you hear this. or You. K. Just WanNa go no. I'm not okay. All I. WanNa do is. Chronic. I just. WanNa go back to sleep forever is that a possibility isn't anything wrong? You tired yeah. Really. Yeah. Let's discuss that. I like when it it's one o'clock in my alarm goes off and I stumble upstairs and it's one O two right And my wife looks at me and asks me some giant profound question about the world or politics or life. And I'll go I mean I don't know like are you going to be tired all Um like God? Up. Give. Me a second our rate. Walk of death in the morning right? Like you said, you're dead to the world until you hit the shower. The again, it's even worse for us in the afternoon one o two and she wants to talk about life but you're GonNa have to give me twenty minutes. I gotTA shower again, start my day which by the way I do a lot for that exact reason. Otherwise, you're the walking dead after and you're not getting anything done when you have to so. Can you just wait if you WANNA see like, Hey, what flavor ice cream do you like I'll tell you WanNa ask a serious question. Wait till about four thirty. I walk downstairs and she's like, Hey, can you help me with something? I'm like Donald Should be ever terrible person. Give me ten minutes I'll be. All right. You're getting this one. This is this is number one frustration with my wife to me, and it's not even close. She will. At some point between now and eleven almost every day. Send me a ninety thousand word Article From The New York Times that has solved the world problems, right? It shows it to me almost always before the show is over. So then we do the show I, don't have time to read it. I'm working we'll do the podcast I get home, and now it's ten thirty eleven o'clock and it's naptime right? So I still haven't read it I. My alarm goes off at one o'clock. I roll upstairs at one zero to like the walking dead and she'll go what did you think about that article and I go I didn't read it yet. You didn't. You've had seven hours to read. Seven our articles. Yeah. So I'm getting extremely good. At Skim Skim Skim Skim. ooh That looks important. Skins. Got It. Did you read that Article Yeah can't believe. She said the thing about the thing. and. Then you know I, pass it off like united sped read. Chapter Book that you send. There's like a low ball, right? Exactly. Yeah. She sent me to super long article about. Hybrid learning in one experts concerned about hybrid learning nationally I found one line that started one paragraph. ooh, that's a nice little thesis statement. So I just text her back and I go yeah I thought it was pretty interesting. The way that he brought up this because I hadn't thought of it like. I know me too and I'm like, yes. Yeah. Yeah I. Mean minutes by. Skimming. Sauce been doing it for thirty seven years right at works half listen and just play the hits. Anyway I could go on all day. and. This is mean, I can't help but I know I mean because I lear- and I'm still pretty awake by the time I get. Home from the drive. I'm barely I mean yeah. I could get arrested. That's how tired I right and then you get to the top of the ramp to turn left on weaver. Lake. Road to go home and the text comes through asking you go to target Oh man and all you WanNa do. Type back. What's really on your mind? Like do you have anywhere to go right now? Right. Realize. I'm out I realize I'm still out I realized that but I also realize you've been in. For the last three days and I know you want your wine? Your wind can wait until naptime certainly. Drive yourself sight there's sunshine in the sky holding you barely well. I know this is all adherent. Good. I. Here locked away. Yeah. Because to your point, once your brain says its nappy dial. Then, even saying go to exits down and spend twenty minutes. That's like an episode of fear. Factor. I don't know if I'm my eyes are going to stay open twenty minutes is the worst twenty minutes of the day were. Go into, go into, get the wine and I come out with a case of wine and all I wanna do is you are an alcoholic we need to talk. To I get every stoplight, get the red light and I hate everybody around me. I turn left in my neighbor. There's people everywhere working in my neighborhood and I know. I'm going to hear nothing but that for Naptime or currently this is updated reference or you're driving back on ninety four then you realize that we exit is close and you have to go. Take a giant loop back on hemlock or something I don't want to be on the road. Going to kill all of you stupid. Because I'm supposed to check for my doctor. He told me this about a month ago. Hey, make make an appointment so we can get it. going. Every day it's just too much for me to call. I'm too tired the column making it's gotTa be digital. Yeah and the whole thing. But every day I'm like man. The general. started the show. Stupid. And you`re Wrong. Piece of mail gets delivered to your mailbox. Looks like. He's second coming to find the right mailbox. Job. God Yeah Man I know I don't know why I'm tired today Matt I woke up tired. I'm I was beat today. So today's the perfect day for you bring this up because I can barely keep my eyes open, but I'll come around. But when you get to be our aid, you're almost fifty, forty eight. So Zach and Brian Check. This out I don't remember it's been. So long I don't remember being sixteen seventeen years old and having endless energy I. Know I did we all did we were sixty years old? It's so far back in my memory where I could just go twenty four hours a day and never get tired. What are we doing? Wherever. We're going. Let's do it now all once you get to this age, all you're thinking about is, when do I, get to nap next? And what is GonNa Stop Me from NAPPI How can I sneak a nap and this is made sixteen. Fifty. Even about funding. For example back to. Eleven. To one of the world. At, twenty two years old when I started working here. It was like, Hey, rage against the machine's plan the performance studio. Said Hey, corey great news by the way Ray machines getting back together and they're playing performance duty at twelve, forty five. Forty. Five. Talk. So pissed who something? You're right. Give me a favor before you walk out the studio, you cut a five second. BET is a great. Great Porn. Exactly. Exactly, the gap age gap again joke. Wild liners just say, Hey, is cory co power to using the wild on the fan still have done that. They are out. It takes you. Twenty seconds a log into the computer right the program to edit a liner takes two seconds to lower so you are ready to record within thirty seconds. That's a one take. We're not reiten. Moby. Dick or basic. Hey. Listen to the power to morning after nine right here on the fan. Now back to wild hockey that's it. Then it takes twenty seconds to MP3 today go Abbott Right the whole process is a minute and a half. Point Birch. Else Cut Liners screwed the wild. Shipped off to a different station I'm not doing a five second. To Chad's point. Or to to to our point if Chad emailed us at five twenty in the mornings at pay cut this line because we need to run before the show I'd be why do we could do like got time I got nothing to do talk ten minutes before the show starts at nine one doing a five second liners sounds like. You WanNa, meet the devil, slowing down my naptime. You WanNa meet the devil wake up from a nap. This is me I wake up from a NAP check my email. It's a sales rep going. Are you still at the station? You're four hours late news. Yep. Yeah. It's three. I'll just hang around to you need something. Lucky. No. Driving Home I'm almost maple Grove Hey. Sorry just got the script. It into oncoming traffic. So. But if you're we really road, if you're at your exit, you have to these posse spot start tomorrow you're going to be like son of a bitch, right? Right. But to our point can wrap up the whole conversation if I'm in the parking lot downstairs. Walking to marry her. Watching to my car and I get that text like, Hey, these spots tomorrow can you cut this quick sixty second commercial the idea? Back on the elevator. Cutting A. Take me four minutes. I. I don't even want this account. Just last week. This is super inside radio. So true I'm just thinking. This is gonNA. This is just a sick fragment you and I. Will come down like, Hey. So and so really thinks that you'd be a good fit for their company I'll. Thanks. We try it out. I bet you ninety five percent of sauces and doors. Anymore. Clive's. Do Commercials at nine zero one. The. People that are actually doing the commercial and paying for the advertising great. People. It is the idea that you told me before the show. Hey, can you cut these at nine one, one, hundred percent I'll do them before I leave. But if you ask me after the show, I've already mentally checked out. And that's my Gosh. Boating endorsement. was about three examples I won't get super specific I. Don't WanNa truly out, but there's about three examples. Over the last three or four years where I've had a prospective client. That's like on the brink, right. But if it's GonNa work because it might be a conflict with a different client I, have it's a weird line in South Seattle. And then I think you are the last person that would make sense for client. But. He's just the safety net right? Here's the here's the giant. What's the? What's the fishing show? Cat. These these basically giant out of the back of a deadliest catch boat. In a bad mood. Gets me riled up on the. Saint Thomas not the same thing I seen the Fisher House the Fisher. House I know is a huge part of recovery for somebody like my husband for them to know that their family members are being taken care of that's a huge burden off of them so they can concentrate on their therapies. Just having that assurance that no matter what is long as we were there for Anson that someone would be there to take care of us. Took so much weight off our shoulders. How can you help go to fisherhouse Dot Org? Pro Pay. Tax. Plug in that tank, we deliver propane straight to you extend your. Dose through that's. Pain taxi. Pentax dot? com. Let's cook in this weekend. If really is your plan, then make it easy on yourself. GO TO PROPANE TAXI DOT COM enter Promo. Code. bbq Ten for ten dollars I barbecue tank exchange delivered to your door. It's that easy with propane taxi. So you can focus on family friends and fun going to get paid. A. God. Anyway. He's back tomorrow. Some Zakhir but this has been the weirdest week. Tommy's not in today either bright lot of vacation this week it all just kinda overlap but Ron Johnson going to be here seventy nine. And then in Rosie O. be here still too. So Zach Bran Chris. Ron and Rosie, we'll get through it. Oh. Yeah. We got lots to talk about today. Well how about we come back from sports the the end of an era now officially with the Minnesota Vikings. Player, officially now moving on yet we'll talk about that next. Like this band more than anybody else in the world. I just love tonic man I don't know what it is. One of my bucket list things is trying to get this guy have a writing session with me loves him natural now. Emerson, Hart's his name is the lead singer, the main guy And I have a friend WHO's a friend of his and and he does writing sessions with like real writers and I'm GonNa see if he'll meet to. Just do it to see what happened to you know what I mean why not be in a room with somebody that you admire like that if you can figure out a way to do it. That'd be cool. Yeah. That'd be cool. Oh. Complete left turn and you probably know this because you this is something you would care about did you know that? Tom Morello. and. The Guitar player for us to be a band together in high school. I did not know that know that how about this to Qatar player for two was the Bass player and Tom Morello's band in high school. The Guy the guitar player from tool. Moved from California to this little town in Illinois where Morella lived and they joined, they started the band together small world. How `bout that or two of the biggest bands in the last race guitar players up there generation. Man Morella was on there's a podcast, the rolling stone podcast. and. They write the articles but they record the interviews and they just go and you know why not we'll just released the interview to. Without saying, this is a smart some bitch man yee Tom Morello to Harvard absolute critical science major man that was one of the great bitch from a month ago when people were tweeting and basically saying, I'm so tired of these rockstars thinking they know everything about politics. Well, maybe my Political Science. Major from Harvard would probably give me the ability to speak on. Subjects. Pretty. Good. Yeah Who's WHO's like the last twenty years Morella was Jack White maybe the name they actually talked about that who they say Jack. White Jacqueline. They mention and that there just isn't a guy right. Exactly. True there isn't a person now and Tom mentioned that early two thousands like fell in love with the girl and for sure seven nation army and stuff that's been fifteen twenty years in some of those songs right and you can even say that they're the same generation almost. Almost about but Tom said, you know what It all die on the mountain of trying to continue to make the guitar. You know important and a viable thing, and he said people said read the beginning of the nineties when we were about to become rage against the machine that guitar rock was dead because people could create it on computers and sample and computers, and he said my answer to that was I'm GonNa, take my guitar make it sound like your computer. Right? He talked about in this interview medifast he's got a book coming out the reason he did this interview which I can't wait to listen to but he talked about being in his. In his. Dorm Room at Harvard and his You know obviously, he was into heavy metal even like hair metal I was know almost the same age and as a kid he was in the really hard rock and heavy metal. He said he was the only black kid wearing spandex pants. And his high school So he had a roommate who was deeply into classical music, and then of course Tom was in the deeply hard rock. And said, he was playing attorney got really bored. He's getting really frustrated and he started messing with the the knobs on guitar. And his roommate came out of the kitchen or whatever, and into the room and said, did you buy a keyboard? Are you trying to kill me and Tom? Yeah, the did kind of sound like a keyboard and he said from that moment on, he did everything he could to explore what he could do with his guitar to make it sound like it wasn't a guitar and that's what he did. Remind me again like when when guerrilla radio came out like Rolling Stone magazine I said that they added instrument ex yeah. I forget which instrument they say I think they added a they thought they added a synthesizer right don't remember I thought it was even weirder than that I thought it was a weirder instrument and synthesizer and it was just Tom on guitar him yeah. It might be during the solo here. The bridge I don't remember, but maybe it wasn't guerrilla radio, but maybe was a song off on. Something where it's but there is a Weird Guitar Solo. In the song. He said that it was this song I'm telling you the whole interview but. It's Tom Roman right? He said. When they I wrote killing in the name of it as an instrumental. Sit in fact, the first few times they played, they played an instrumental. And then which absolutely shreds but obvious yeah, exactly. Accepting yeah. The Game Changer. But well, let's ask me to youths Rianne. Zach you guys are still both in your twenties. Who is the guitar player of Your Generation I was thinking about that a lot as you're saying that I mean John Mayer I know I talked a lot about him but he really deserves a lot of credit. He really is like a student of the guitar, but he's kind of that same generation with Jack. White. So I can't really think of anyone now is probably someone younger that means frankly The first one that comes to mind just because. I don't know I it's hard because a- Iraq isn't like it used to be as like in the nineties. So the first one that comes to mind this is sinister gates. Sinister. Events seven multi great player. He really is don't know if he's got the credit he deserves right he is one of the he's probably the best guitarist I've ever seen live but maybe that's the whole point though is that If you and I are rock man and sound like you know we as Chris but if ninety nine percent of the public which banned you're in, then you can't really be that guitarist if a generation is a ten out of ten right even if he's that good. We just don't have iconic guitar players anymore. Yeah. Like we did in the seventies eighties nineties maybe even early two thousands. Rockstar relieving is. I mean Shawn Mendes getting there but okay. Well, but there are guitar players that you would know to start players who knew that Adam. Levine was guitar player. You know who to be honest with you for a long time who knew prince. Guitar. Right I mean and that's you don't. This next if you can figure that out in the next six minutes, what's what instrument it was rolling stone. This little part here in a second was. An enraged at a break in the news at this was just Tom on guitar this. Start. Some time. What better place in here. What better time than now? Golly Gee? I know. I'm always surprised by. The percentage of the doesn't really like this and I get completely cool everything's. Right in my wheelhouse just I know I literally feel it in my spine, I do I. So good. Anyway I tell you about podcasts like that all the time but when the Morello book comes out. I can't wait to listen to it. I. Can't wait to listen to. Stay. Pretty good some sports because people carry sports. Time now for front page sports presented by Ryan to see a criminal defense riot. Defense end of an era for the Vikings because Everson Griffen has signed a one year six, million dollar deal with the Dallas. Cowboys a three million dollars base salary three, million dollars roster bonus possibility at forever's in four time Pro Bowler, ten seasons with the Vikings seventy four and a half sacks with the purple. That is fourth in franchise history he is thirty two years old. According to what a couple of reports to it sounds like the vikings were in the MIC and Seattle too which is interesting because to me that means it was down to one of two things right opportunity or money. At that, want it when you're thirty two in your fridge and it has to be one of those two things right? One hundred percent. Am I gonNa ever play and what are you paying me right? Yeah. Yeah I'll tell you I am. I that guy you know. He was always so friendly and so nice and he he's such an intimidating guy. You know we did that on Vikings connected to three seasons ago we did the Tattoo thing where you know they and talking to him and about his tattoos and how much thought he put into them and how much they meant to him. I really gave me an idea who this guy would have been without football just a really good hearted guy who'd been through a lot man a lot of things he went through his youth. I like the Guy Lot I really did I. Hope I. Hope he does really well, we all know the struggles he's been through I I hope it continues to go in the right direction. So he's got a one year six, million dollar deal right in front of him. Zach and get you some money maybe not six million but zach get you some money back and get you. Money Corey the fan and wicks and jewelers grand your hand with our national cash contests Texas keyword money. Now get to two, hundred, two hundred to enter. That's money that you want her to. Stanford Standard Text Message and data rates apply Zach how do you feel that you know sauces back tomorrow? This has been your four days to really get a jump start on the twenty twenty, one city award. I feel like you've had a handful of moments right? The elevator bit yesterday where we basically sent you on a wild goose chase for twenty minutes trying to find Marnie goellner. Put you on the map a little bit about father, your mother father. was arguably one of the three or four best jokes of the year on this show. Absolutely made us laugh super hard but clock's ticking right you have less than three hours of radio time before sauces back I wanna ask you about this rage thing I the only thing I can mind is. Harmonica is that could be Ebi. They thought it was reminding. Aby sounds like ours. Yeah Right. So did he correct them and say no, that wasn't harmonica that was a good time yes. It may be was the her mom I don't know maybe they can find. Well, then we'll go. We'll do that. That sounds right to me either way I would have. Twat the twins won the twelve to two over the drug. Ghani's with a bunch of home runs to from Buxton one from Snow Kenta Majeida six and two thirds five hits, two runs, five strikeouts look it up on your phone. They're twelve and seven now broncos seven nine. That good Alexandra S-. Ghani's now that I know that we have an affiliate Wisconsin. Ma'am. It's just what I said it in the past felt passive like the drunken S- counties yeah. Like like you were saying it behind their back right now it's right in their Territory crew, right right. Right. Yeah. twins are off today there at target field tomorrow to take on the Kansas City royals at seven ten. They go. Cool. I'm watching right now. Trenton inside if that's the blue uniform desert that's a great uniform for sure. But it also looks blue to me I think I'm getting colorblind this well, somebody just take me out to the past I gotta address to show you later you can tell me and color looks okay that's weird. The Blue Draft Yeah I. got it. Oh. Bought a new. The Pittsburgh Penguins have decided to keep their first round pick. They had the option to give it to the wild either this year or next year part of the Jason's occur trade they are keeping it this year. Was It fifteen Zach pick well yeah. Pick fifteen. So whatever they're keeping it. Yeah. So, then that means though the wild I believe get. An unprotected crack at the penguins next year's first rounder. So they will probably be better than they were this year because they got upset around one. So we'll probably have a picking the twenties but it and Crosby Malcolm I'll get hurt me but we have a top ten pick next year. One can only hope a one can only hope for significant injury. Catastrophic for all of those guys including Jason. Wow So the wild fans actually have to cheer against Jayson next. Year Yeah. Home. Safely Out of the bubble, right he's either in Pittsburgh or here probably should over there and see if you want me what dedication you are really something although again, even though we like the work ethic that's not going to win the award jokes and entertainment is GonNa. Win You go into the house right now and knocking on the door to see if he's there. Is something I think you're willing to do because you're a hard worker but city pages guy's not gonNA care. Charms. In. If you leave it's advantage brand. She's got three hours. In the spotlight back before your back and sauces, Barry Somebody left the door open you know. To open you gotTA. Watch that. Man. Can be arranged, Thursday. Of course let's teach these kids. What you want me to do. I may have crossed the head of. I really respect and I love Tom I really like audio slave. Trade a while I'm the same way I like like audio slave rage. Obviously guerrilla radio. I'm I get palm but I like Chris Voice more than like Zach This is so much fun. I will say that we do have a range of our generation who is that and it's About for even set. Yes. Take our so similar. And its iron bow these times. Today. Probably needed more than than ever. So I like. Wanted to say. Yeah. Lots of fun. All right. Ron Johnson joins it seven. Martin. Rosen about seven, thirty, seven forty or so this is the power to show. Fan. Bad. It's twins on the twenties powered by weeks in jewelers discover the best selection of pre owned rolexes at Weixin Jewelers. Byron Buxton hit two home runs. The twins routed the brewers by a score of twelve year last night Milwaukee Mogul CEO no. The also young well Marlin Gonzales went two for four with two RBI Nelson Cruz. Any both walked with the loaded basis for Minnesota, which is now split the last four games to get to a twelve and seven record by the end of the fourth any by the way Kim restarted for the twin at least one hit. This is one of those six days in sixty that the Minnesota twins will have off. So they don't play tonight, but they will play tomorrow Jake arteries in the mound for the twins. Jake Junius. For the royals of Kansas City at Kauffman, stadium tomorrow, and that was twins on the twenty s powered by wicks in jewelers. Minnesota's Swiss. Watch experts. What are you laughing at? Did I miss something. I don't know though. He's Not Watching Tomorrow Yesterday I loaded and if you don't mind. I told you I think on the after party. That I found I went down the rabbit hole andy on parks and REC Chris Pratt Chris Kreider Andy. Dwyer. Is the character and somebody wants you to if you don't mind look it up. Chris Pratt from Minnesota originally, because I think I've told you before my tattoo artist is his second cousin and my tattoo artists from up by the Canadian border. Virginia Minnesota Right? That's right. Good Place. Yeah. So I mean they're literally family members of his probably listening to the the power, but now we think your your cousins. Cool. Just. Like the rest of the world does yeah but my Gosh, was he? He delivered a line, a played such a Stupa Guy. You can hardly believe it's the same guy from all the other movies, guardians of the galaxy and stuff. It's hard to believe you know like this. Here's Andy's list of health issues leading else bothering. NOPE Well. I mean Yeah I've got a weird rash in my knee pit area and my tongue on this. Doesn't taste anything anymore sometimes when I walk my ankles make like a weird rattle snake sound what else things that are far away from my eyes are fuzzy I once eight twix with the wrapper on it and I've never seen the rapper come out also have swirled every piece of Gum chewed for the past twenty five years. and. Broke my own way over here to. Fix Me. I can be with thumb, don't have to give you referrals for specialists for the other thousand things. Of course when he holds up his hand. Is His hands lick enlarge purple off I broke my. Brilliant Too. But I couldn't deliver that line like that most people can't. Here's his list of. And these list of secrets I once forgot to brush my teeth for five weeks. I didn't actually sell my last car forgot where park did I don't know who Al Gore is at this point I'm to afraid to ask. Two Percent Mill I. Don't know what? The other ninety eight percent. A baby my head was so big scientists experiments on me. I wants through Beer Swan, and then it attacked my niece Rebecca. Love it. Here's A. List of broken bones, you have two broken bones in your right arm and foreign hand this aside that hurts. At the fractures and like to keep him overnight for observation. You can fix me in the next ten minutes. Sure. I'll just advance medical science thirty years. Great. Great man to Mount Rushmore comedy. Is One of the the four best comedies of all time and find it's so good. He finds the differences. Found all three differences. Those are two completely different pictures. Just, but that's great. I'll say it again though because I know I've told the story one bad this. Parks and REC panel after the show is over. Yeah and. They were I. think it was. Was it Michael Sheriff Forget who was talking about the genius of Chris Pratt that obviously a lot of that's writing but that they all think we're allowed to try to Improv and shoot lines once in a while and there was a time that I. Believe I, remember he was looking at possible symptoms of Leslie Amy Poehler character. And He was on web MD and as the camera pan past him. And the characters walked past his computer he said something like it says that you have internet connectivity problems. And Staff at parks and REC basically said, Chris Pratt b-brian being next level because that's about the most clever joke possible and he just winged it. Because Andy of course, and that's it's such an in character joke that's something Andy would believe that Leslie has. Internet, connectivity issues. Before clever. So good man. Yeah. I truly think that show never got the credit. It deserves. Because It felt like an office rip off because it started. Two years after the office did something like that right office having started five. Parks and REC was what seven eight? I think. So I think it was very soon. Two, thousand, and nine nine. Okay. April maybe makes more sense because Rashida Jones was on about season three of the office. So that does make sense because then she she. Her character is essentially written off of the office, and then she moved on to parks and REC was A. Main player until basically the last season. Great. Show great show just fantastic and you've been reading that Rob Lowe Booker. Terrific parks, and REC. When he joins in season three, I think with Adam Scott that that's when the show completely changed right when those two jumped on it was a game changer. Totally Different vibe that I guy that the guy that plays Mark Brand Danna which I forget the actor's name first. Year and a half two seasons whatever it is just didn't work. Yeah. Once they moved past that dude, it was ten times better Paul, Schneider Yeah and he wasn't bad. Just his character just wasn't. He's a good actor. Character didn't lead to a lot of comedy. Depressing almost, we were talking in here about music a little bit ago and how there's so many opportunities now to make your own music and released it to the world, and it's possible for a lot of people to find your music. But in a lot of ways, it's if it's harder for people to find your music like right now, you have to actively look for new music because there's so many different Giannis Jonah's in so many different places to find it. Okay. I think it may be the kind of the same thing we were talking about this the other day. There are so many there's A. I can't believe the amount of television shows and television series and movies as well. That you can stream on all these different systems and stuff like that, and if you just one time look through the comedy list on Hulu alone. There are literally hundreds of shows you've never heard of right and I wonder how many of them were missing out on that might be genius like parks and REC only they're just mixed in with the rest of it. You don't know anything about. It almost has to go viral, right it's. GotTa be massive word of mouth to keep it in the right person as to find it, and so this is great you to do a super controversial video of its music video like Cardi B. Meghan be stallion like you did for Waffles and pancakes for sure what's the? What's the? What's the band of Waffles and pancakes? Stands for what's the band that dot did the treadmill. Video. Okay. And Yeah they're great. Great. Big. You've gotTA listen I've got a podcast listen to because they talk to the lead singer of the band about the videos and he said people talked I'm talk about it. As if we do that to get our music heard, what we're doing is expressing herself in multiple John of art within one four minute packager. He said we're not just thinking. This is how somebody's going to hear our song. We're saying, what else can we do with attention? We've got their attention. What can we do with and they've done a hell of a lot of cool videos which I need to actively source or look because there's so much more than just than the treadmill song. Not GonNa do that anytime? Soon. But. Now. If you WANNA see smashmouth. That's true. Rain we're going to talk to. Because apparently yesterday they tried like an arena show in England socially disincentives Kobe because each. Group bought a little. Probably Eight by eight square and they had it. It was like patio and there were patio spaced out six feet apart and to be clear is a festival arena. It wasn't an arena outside was okay. I'm sorry I didn't see any picture just saw. The Guy had noticed nobody I'd heard it but somebody may be Andy. Heard of you know who was. Written down somewhere but apparently, it was a very successful experiment because. I the one picture I saw. Just kind of showing you what the pods looked like, but they were all full everyone that I saw so. I mean, there you go. There's an opportunity to get outside watch festival, but still be socially distant. He'll do what really matters this Gordon stats around the world sports change your life something else in Ron Johnson thirty minutes now power. Welcome back departure morning show by the way A. Heads up and props to the listeners as they've been. Telling. Some young guitar players that maybe the guitar player of their generation and Brian. Brought up a name that somebody brought up on twitter. Gary Junior I mean, I? I do love this kid but again, the fact that he didn't immediately sprang to mind. Tells you just that. He's a fantastic guitar player who deserves a great spot. In the Guitar Lexicon of the twenty, twenties and beyond. But there's not a giant hippie would say that's Gary. Cartwright. Less you listen to the Patriot Morningstar you hear all the time. is such a sweet Dan. Nudity only my own. That's so good. You just loses cool. Well That's a burden. He's married to a model to is he really half? Through bad. See this chick. Lost interest in guitar plane. Very. Though, see your guy that whenever you want. To man whenever since. Google any like male celebrities name like the first thing in the auto fill is ser white wife. She's pretty. Open for kings of Leon His grace no kidding. Yeah they were amazing to. He's great. Mrs. This is getting older too but what about guy from us? Again You know it's funny. Andy from Fargo just reached out for that. Exactly. I don't know his name though. Is it Matthew Bellamy Gasoline, lead singer, and Guitar? And I throw another name in the hat for it Mark Tramonte. Alter bridge that the way he can. Yeah, he's Great. I love the things he does I really do and he's got a a crapload a Hitman from Creed Dalton brazen and even as new record thrill. Great. Still, kind kinda niche though right doesn't feel like a voice generation caucus. Does it. Yeah, there's I don't think there's a generational petar. Loan. Kurt. Yeah. They're about to release a live. What is Christina Aguilera about to release? Talked about Powell's apparently I know. But how about perish and his band nickelback? He says, he knows what's happening tomorrow because parishes tight with those guys but they have cryptic tweet. Something is coming on Friday, right? It's Friday August fourteenth and. Picture of their name of their band. But then Christina yesterday two days after she changed your life. Just tweet a picture that said Friday with like a kiss in a heart and a tank top. Maybe. She's going on only fans on Friday. Then she is the guitar player averts. Integration. She can take all of my money. Here's some money. How quickly would you sign up for that? If she said I'm going on only thing starting tomorrow. As soon as I read it, I would quit the job. The price be for seventy, four, thousand dollars in Chris would pay. I'd have to go to the ATM I'm. Just. I'm very curious. Okay. Well, let's do it. Okay. Let's do a real hypothetical here. Okay. One of those were I want an honest answer. Okay. I'll do my best for sure. If. There were nude photos on only fans dot com, Christina Aguilera right now. Yes, and the only way you could see them as if you paid for him so it's not like you can just use x password because that's going to have it for you have to pay for it. What's the maximum amount you would pay to see? Christine Aguilera nude photos. She posted. So this is not like a hack job. This is a consenting adult choosing to show nudity. And honor. Answer on sleep because you asked me to do that, honor her on her giant. And, you know I. But con contrary to plug. I'm not the Horny old man that you guys me. No not at all. And do I get to keep the photos or do I only get one time? It's a subscription, so I can't give you get to keep them. Subscriber totally guess you could screen shot rabble. Let's just for argument's say, okay, this is not something you can share with other people. So this is not an investment where you can be like well, I could pay for it and show. This Joint just and just morbid curiosity. How much Is the most you would pay for. Are we talking one picture? How many pictures do you WANNA. Pay For here in this case. A Baker's doesn't. Day in a video, a week, a video, the video. Now he's going to empty his bank account. Let's go back to the out just the picture. It's the pictures. Those four pictures you lost your mind over two days ago. Yeah. Those were nudes Gimme the number. I'm trying to be honest and not. Fifteen. Thousand Dollars. No seriously and also I would probably, I probably. Curiosity more fun way. Fifty Bucks. Yes. One hundred bucks. Yes. Two hundred bucks. Yeah You hesitated though to fifty. This is like a pornography auction. Yeah. Eleven that now I think to fifty might be the top today go and I don't know where I know come out Chris. No I'm serious that might be the most I pay. Bubis out there he also has to if this is your only chance to see her. Very curious. Right and if you don't pay for it, you never get to see her there's no other opportunity. She's never gonNA pose anywhere. You again, in this hypothetical, you're not allowed to use somebody else's photosynthesis. With, you I understand his your one shot right? I understand completely. But the way I sit right now. I figured I'd go my whole life without seeing him right and it's a great opportunity because I'm very curious in this week was about as close as you've ever right based on her own twitter, right? Right. and. Maybe once she removes the shirt, their cross eyed and the they're disgusting I don't know. tied. Though I. Get it right I don't know why carrot that no. But I'm still curious even if they are is any part of you factoring in. What's the most you're going to have to explain come next tax day when your wife says, why did you spend two hundred fifty dollars August on some random website and you have to explain why? was. Curious. You're really hitting the raw soar right now. Because otherwise, the number might be higher than two fifty but I, I caught a little hell yesterday for the of all things the the apple bill, the I tunes Apple Bill. Because apparently have subscriptions to all kinds of junk apps and stuff like that. Yeah I just don't care. The old, the old Rooster came home to roost or whatever the hell you say this year and You know, and then I had to get indignant. It'd be like I'm using those for work and she's like you don't use only fans dot com for work and I like you don't understand the show obviously. I'm writing all that off. Yeah of course. You say you're one. He's righty take. Writing Yeah. I don't know Man Zach. What's that? How much did you pay to see? Christine Aguilera naked too much. I'm not a big like Britney Spears while I suppose you don't have to pay see that anymore Apparently. Fifty fifty, one, hundred, I don't I'm not a big Christina air flow. Dudes, are he just said I have no interest but I'll give you one hundred by. Bill Gates over there. Right For me three months my salary. I take out a second mortgage on. She's really not my thing. But what do you need that come? What is The exact average but what do most the ladies only fans charge for like nude photos is at twenty bucks a month is it five bucks a month up to say there's a lot of the times they'll though it'll cost ten bucks to subscribe, and then you'll get like the hand covering the nipple thing and then to see the actual nude photos, you have to like tip 'em or they'll send you a private message with A. Blurred photo that you have to pay a certain amount to unlock. So it's a lot of time at the two step process to see anything actual Nude. Or topless it's it's it's sometimes worth it. Don't you love that when we asked Zach it's not like well, my friend said. He can give us examples of when he got. No Way. Careful out. Now if you're doing research who'd write, this ought grade-point. Search. well-done. Yes. What really matters is brought to you by our friends at cultivated CB. That's right. CULTIVATED CBD DOT COM. Thank you very much k. a fan is the code for ten percent off your online order. Slightly breaking news that I think is kind of interesting it's. Very, very minor, but it does matter to the Minnesota Vikings. Pj Hall. Remember the traded four him from the Vegas Raiders Erase Seventh Rounder, a conditional seventh round, but then he failed his physical. So he got sent back to Vegas and then they released him. Well according to feel that Yates on twitter he signed with the Texans. So. For, whatever reason with the Vikings being uncomfortable with him with physical, right? The Texans are saying welcome aboard. So more second rounder PJ, Hall Defensive Tackle is a Houston Texan. So they just signed him give up a set of their own. Biggest released him but seventh rounder to us, it means nothing to reconvenes means a lot which I don't quite understand but whatever. Just. I. Lottery, tickets in the seventh round. Point is though is. I think that's fascinating that there was something that said. No to the Vikings no thanks vaccines willing to gamble with whatever the Vikings noticed. Curious to what that was. I don't know if we'll ever find out what really matters is this in China some police officers prefer geese over guard dogs. Because guard geese are more territorial and have better eyesight. Dr David Whiting. I mean. Mean, sense pitch terrible, and pupo lot everywhere. Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren shot down the idea of Nebraska plane outside of the big ten. He said quote no not NBA a member of the big ten. So basically now you can go and play a non conference schedule. If you WANNA, go play another schedule this year but then good luck being a part of the big ten moving forward, which is probably the exact right answer. You're threatening to leave. We'll go ahead and try it and we'll make sure that that happens right. You're either in the conference of you're. Not. So Good Luck to coat frost in Nebraska was the matters though is the the number that will bond said the other day was three, hundred, thirty, eight, million dollars a year, the Each big ten team gets from the television contract. Bam from the television contract what? Can that number even be rights and pretty sure Holy F. That sounds high to me out divided from three, thirty, eight to the teams. Take check it out if you would find out which and maybe it's for the the T. the TV contract that they signed. But it was a giant number. I do know that so that whatever it is, it's the kind of money that will keep you in the big ten unless you get a better offer I guess. Yeah, it distributes about fifty, million, her her per. So maybe there's yeah there you go. So for each team yeah I, see what you're saying. It's a split of that for your. What really matters though is this. Numbers, my thing New York City has a larger population than thirty eight of the states in the United States New, York City itself. A larger population than thirty eight states in the United I was thinking about that like if you're on the local news in New York City that's like. Pretty much national exposure. Yeah, you do something. Stupid. You'RE NOT GONNA get caught for you know I don't know naked in front of supermarket. Millions of people are gonNA see that here. Couple, thousand. People accidents actually all depends on who it is I mean if. If. Frank, vacillation gets naked in front of a grocery store in Amelia and reported on this show. That would probably go viral Alberta report that seems like a conflict of interest I think you have to let her do it. I think to be happy to. Yeah. I don't know some dumb son of. who better not even think coming home. Naked again outside the Picnic Wigley. He's not even invited. Earliest target I, forgotten piggly-wiggly man is everywhere back home piggly-wiggly and village pantries. That's what we have. Village. Pantry. while. Pantries is a weird where it's just too close. Yeah we also had village panties as well. You know there was a dropbox granny panties. If you needed panties, you could just grab the neighborhood. Granny, panties. I were I. Don't know what I wear. Fifty Bucks on only fan. So I will mirror he'll blur out a picture. I make you go through another step back this gonNA give that away. I'm worth something I'm worth something on my. Singing baby. You. Sixty nine cents. Would that help deal? Okay. My term probably the cowboys signed Everson Griffen to a one year six, million dollar deal four time pro bowler here at the Vikings he is. Now a Dallas cowboy sounds like device were in the mix. Yeah. Don't know to what extent but it wasn't a a done deal that he was gone. It sounds like they were still interested just couldn't come to an agreement between him and vitamin A cowboy what really matters. Have you know yeah. Why not? Yeah. Right. I thought he was going to go so I'm not surprised that he's gone but I don't know. The packer was interesting. There is reportedly interested packers would have been fun. Yeah. I don't think I've done this before, but at one time beer was classified as a soft drink in Russia. To. Its carbonated for I'm saying Yeah Right Right. NHL Playoffs last night Vancouver five to over Saint Louis. Vancouver leads that series one zip that hurts still Philadelphia to over Montreal Philadelphia's up one nothing Colorado three zip over Arizona. Colorado is up one nothing in that series the islanders Mark Perish for two over Washington Mark Parishes Islanders are one zip in that series and Boston four three over Carolina. Charlie. COYLE, and company up ones if in that series what really matters though is this I love. Christmas. And this. This I think I've actually found a Christmas celebration I'm not into. In Slovakia. They have a Christmas carp. That lives in the family bathtub for a few days before they're eating? You get a car let live in the bathtub for a few days in a really frustrate the hell out of it. And then you eat it is fish tastes best wins frustrated garbage. Yeah. Yeah. They anything about anything. They literally any throws and. I've never known people to eat carp because it's so hard to find any meat that's edible because there's so much mud junk in there. My sources say sauce won't eat it right? Well, you know what they say. Shaken. carbs lead anything else they will. About that little kitten or boy. Yeah probably whatever was left over. Yeah. The twins one twelve to over the drunken Scotties they hit three home runs two of them Byron Buxton? Who is just Awful the first what two weeks of the season or so and now the last I don't know four or five games. He is unstoppable. What really matters is this right? So Female Ferret. When they go into heat. Go on. They stayed that way until they break there. So if if they don't get it on and it's been four years, they've been in heat that entire time. Right. The problem is. They get so horny. That the essence of increases until they have aplastic anemia and die. For they literally get so Horny, they died. Wouldn't you be? Like the cockiest nude in the world, you'd like Oh now you want this. You really need this thing here. been. Heat for about four and a half years you about dead their grandma just once I wanna feel like a ferret. Right just once. It'd be nice if some gals almost dying. If she doesn't happen. I needed so bad. I you do. I, don't know I feel like making you die. Could the ferret like take care of that itself like. I mean their arms are really short and they don't have finger. Oh, the worst. You need fingers. Lord strong. Take. Well. We know that's not the case with humans for. Horny you could die than crucial would have died thirty seven times by now. and. I'm right there with. We got to save each other's lives. I. Need a second purple heart. Not GonNa leave you. I'm fine hawk. John just. Coming to theaters this. Horny. John. That actually by the way it's something saving. Turns Yellow. Wouldn't say. He's so. I do something looks dramatically wrong you. Go to the doctor. Adults should not be yellow. This is not the simpsons. I don't her. Was Super Horny Benign? Six. All Right Ron Johnson joins next, we'll go through the news in a second. Rosie should be hearing about forty minutes or show or so we'll do headlines in the eight o'clock hour this as power trip or on Fan. Fan. 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Before we go into news, his name is mega for. And he's calling from Baltic by the sea, which is just off the coast of England Yup nailed. Eddie. Off The coast of England swim guy to work. Yeah I got, I love that. One of my favorite things to do after the show is to go on the twitter and see how many things I've said wrong. But specifically when it comes to English stuff because I'm almost always only about twenty percent accurate about things. But how accurate was I about the idea that that Socially Distance Concert wasn't England and my right about. Was it actually over there whether you're at Yes it was in England Gotland was actually staged up in Newcastle. As in the fall, reaches of the North East of England. So you weren't anywhere near it then so you did not go. I did not go unfortunately and. My family did because my mother's family are all from Newcastle Jody's as we like to call the geordies like they're they. have their own specific way of speaking you guys would probably struggle to understand I would love to hear them some day. I'm so who was the artist or artists? So the autism performed it was. is from that area. It was the first GIG. Basically, this has been set out by the owners of the indoor arena that is in Newcastle. So they set up on a rice strike hosts racing type similar to kind of. But up there and you're right, they have like platforms for. Families or social bubble was allowed to run out to come together and England up to five people per view impactful, five, hundred viewing platforms. Each has alcohol and cleaning products. So you can clean stuff oil there and you can older drinks and food to your platform. Wow and and as far as you could tell, did they sell out of tickets? Sold out. Two thousand five hundred people turned up and they enjoyed it and it's not just going to be music. They're going GONNA have. And comedy So Jimmy Carter and Bill Bailey are planning to play ballerinas well. Awesome. Ability that reminds me that name remark. Did he have a hit with inaccessible meant that I don't think wrong guy. Bill Bailey I I'm trying to place the name. He's he's a comedian music. Yes exactly awesome. Why let's let's get them doing that kind of thing I mean that's awesome. If you can sell that many tickets in, it's a safe outdoor venue like that. That's great You need a big old area to get that many tables and people who are willing to be from the stage, but we'll take it. Exactly stunning nothing, right. Yeah for sure. Thanks. Bye. Now, guy like. A British guy, a random British guy named. Dandy. His point. We were talking about the distance concert that they did over there. Oh, follow a British to just called in, and now he's my friend. We we know these. Words that go. I think he went to to find us. So yesterday that was a fun twenty minutes for him trying to find Marnie we could probably do the same thing today I don't think he'd get away with it twice I really. Do some. Hope I didn't eat them I. HAVE A car. Did you though. I did come in the door and then I got I tried to figure these errol's. Wb by was like where the heck am and then I realize Roseanne, there's no left turning Arrow either feed just keep going and. So. Yeah. So there are now Eros on our floor as a our companies on the brink of semi reopening, right? Some people are going to start coming back to the office of small percentage, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's almost like an Ikea floor plan. They all want you to go in one direction well, that doesn't work. When I come in the door in the morning. I come into the door and it tells me to go left to studios. Right. I'm not doing six laps to get down to the studio now. And then when I leave the studio or when I leave the building. The way that I go out, they don't want me to go out that door. They want me to do the full lap and go out. The other door would've acts looking for me I'm sure is the but. I'm sure that he is. One hundred percent runner you saw today okay I'm good. Thanks. So my alarm went off and I had no idea why? I feel that way a minute to realize. Oh. Shut off. The first time. And then like six twenty went off again and I'm like what the why my long gone off. Thing juvenile phone. Yeah. Do you ever do the Labor type in what? especially if it's an alarm that you're not used to say here's why you wake up. In Yeah for sure, I didn't know you could do that. There used very simple. That's a good idea. Yeah. Because when I looked at my phone, I'm trying to figure why was going off and I didn't go to sleep like three thirty. Yeah were you doing playing video games now I? Wish I was working word. Yup. That's suck. We've been doing mass and and hand sanitizer and stuff. So I was trying to help eating prairie put their packs together last night a little bit Jeez Yeah. Not Bad. We come in. I'm good. All right. Can you later? No I can't. We have a bracelet sale today and he Dina let's man. Hey Zach there's Ron we found him. Yeah. He's right here I. Find that was the market they found him. He followed the wrong way. Yeah. With the wrong way. Matt. We didn't look happy you know. So give us the the candidate even know. Do I didn't know about the Martin. Of yesterday out what's the update with with your daughter fundraising? So we're headed to dine at a a out to weed out the address after three Ron Johnson on twitter tweet address because I don't know I have no idea is in Linden hills never heard of it but we're up to about one hundred and thirty, thousand, hundred and forty thousand dollars we just partner with terrible coffee. So August Twenty Ninth Caribou from nine thirty am till eleven thirty, they're going to have their truck. So they have a food truck searches new. Yeah. Same Base I made same patient nut didn't know that but they have a food truck. In so one so they're going to send it though to Chanson. And we're going to be a big Lake Susan part but I'll tweet it out to our be at a park with care. But when they're going to sell coffee and morning treat on a Saturday morning, I mean what person doesn't WanNa. Get coffee on a Saturday morning anyway. So you might as well do it for charity You'll be come out and have a smoothie ever coffee have a low taser recall pumpkin spice might come back. I don't think. So don't quote me on that I am not serious I know Pumpkin spice does not exist right now for all. You. Serious coffee drinkers we're going to sell bracelets. We're GONNA. Do a low race walt for kids is like a half mile dealer on the part you know those games right now are raising money in our neighborhood with their families and grandma GRANDPA and you know, Hey, would you pay twenty bucks me to walk park wants or run whatever Yeah that's it, and then we're GONNA we're working on something now with she does actually have a call. She goes like eleven We're trying to work on some with them enduring a bracelet sale at shields. As. Well, as them carrying, we're GONNA do a LOCI. So this bracelet I'm wearing. We're GONNA, make one of these in Cameron's favorite three colors, and then we're gonNA sell those as well. dame the money's going back to charity Loci only donates like a buck. So we to do it ourselves. We we are getting from them but if we ship ourselves and actually take on the project we can end up donate like four bucks. So it's like four on four hundred percent more doing joining. Generously. The cause is awesome, but I'm just super excited for Cameron because this she's going to remember this the rest of her life. And it was. A game changer for. Downtown I. What a cool experience? No, it's it's It was cool to me and and I met I don't know his name but this place is called wrong goes auto shop and they were right next to O'Reilly's in O'Reilly's bird now, which, of course, his spot burned down but he was told like fifty grand he needed to reopen. So we gave him five thousand dollars plus we went out to his little event and so abrasives as well And then we're going into sanctuary church sometime this month as well, and we're going to sell bracelets right in the heart of Minneapolis there right across from like a cub foods gas station it is boarded up so we want kids to be able to see that to go actually helping yes. He what you're helping the is gonNA come out for that one. Honestly being in Minneapolis I hope more people come out A. Sanctuary Church is a really nice church but again see that see the community see the people directly affected by this who don't have a gas station don't have a targeted anymore where you can go down and you know I think we're gonNA steal a food drive down there two people can bring gang goods and other stuff but I think that's cool just to see it for the kids to understand how important it is. Not like we're not just doing this for no reason. Yeah. We're in the suburbs so we could easily just go back to our lives and say, Hey, here's a check and we're gonNA keep moving on. But I think I want them to have that memory of It wasn't just about a murder of George Lloyd? It was a host city was hurting some idiots were involved to we know that but you know there there's work to be done in you know why not do it if we can get. Kfi News with Chris Hockey presented by firefly credit first news item has to do with this Zach thank you Chris the fan in wixom jewelers. WanNa put a grand in your hand with our national cash got does text the keyword home? The two hundred, two, hundred to enter standard text message and data rates apply now back to you Chris. Thank you. Police are warning residents, Talka- that thieves are targeting their mailboxes. Police say they've had several reports of male being stolen from residential mailboxes where flags are up the thieves? No they will find something inside if they see a flag up so. Residents are advised to especially when mailing a check to just drop it off at a post office or an official USPS what's the point of the flag? That lets the yeah I don't know I. Guess they're gonNA open it up there goodness. Yeah. But they may not have anything for you say may not open it up if they don't anything for you. Oh Yeah. They could think that it's the mail from the previous day that you haven't picked up. If there is like right he's. Never done that I don't trust that you don't. I don't trust putting the Mexico and through my mailbox to know to take stuff. I don't know why. I've never done that. You drop it off I, drop it all. People who have recently exposed I should say people who have been recently exposed to other corona viruses like the common cold might be milder reaction to the novel Corona Virus, that Causes Cove nineteen a new study found this month immune systems in about half a subject seemed to remember past exposures to corona viruses giving them a leg up when responding to covert one, thousand, nine Dr Anthony Fauci the nation's top infectious disease expert says that that could be why some people experience mild symptoms or none at all while others go to the hospital or even pass away. Interesting. So get sick I. Yeah. Got It. Is Weird we're time to be alive. Let's go to a daycare. To men with chainsaws. Are under arrest after threatening beachgoers and Canada. Police in Toronto say officers responded to reports of a large brawl at a beach park but found two males covered in blood yelling at surrounding people while carrying weapons. Footage posted to facebook shows the two men charging bystanders while wielding chainsaws and shouting about being hit. Thirty, sixty two were involved in earlier fights then returned to the scene with power tools. Witnesses say the seem like right out of a movie. No word on the identities of. Can't imagine super sexy swimsuits on a Canadian beach now I'm guessing that was two white guys right I. would guess for Canada. Yeah. True but I mean black. Like if you beat me up, I'm not grabbing a chainsaw. I guess just not was not the first thing I'm thinking about grabbing my knife. Check. But chainsaw like you like or maybe they were power worker guys and they just had in the trunk. Yeah, right. That's that's weird intimidating though. To have on the power trip presented by all around property preservation I'm coming around I'm grabbing a change, the twins. They won last we'll talk more about that twins twenties. The NFL's reporting that it's covid nineteen positive-testing rate is under one percent leaks. It's well under the threshold to avoid operates at team facilities at zero point four, six, percent ten fell has conducted over one, hundred, nine, thousand tests and the rate includes all players, coaches and staff and that was. A hoax no no. The Dallas. Cowboys are signing former. Vikings defensive and Everson Griffen NFL network insider. Ian Rapoport. Reports. A one year deal where six million dollars last go round. About twenty minutes, Vikings News. We'll get your take. On Everson leaving for Dallas. Thank you radcow by the way Sean McDermott will be has signed a five-year extension with the buffalo bills keeping their through the twenty twenty five season. What about Kevin Mcdermott? I don't see anything he was in the he was in the starter at least digitally. Really. Show they showed how his wife flipped their condo into a nursery when they had their daughter. The show the renovation that you know it's wasn't really baby-friendly. All the cool changes they made felt like I was watching HDTV, but it was our Guy Kevin McDermott. Little like a condo slash loft. Sasha look into that man he's got to get out of apartment. Sweet ass. Kind of Mukti have maybe paid for McDermott's should have with all of our endorsements that we give him especially with he and we you know right exactly. I'd be a little sauce out there. The big twelve conference reelected Ron's reaction idea of a baby sausage. Can you imagine. I just think would you say saucer the baby I just think hangover would alley. Right have you been? Off. Zach the big twelve conference reaffirmed its decision to press Allen College football and other sports on Wednesday joining the Athletic Coast Conference and the southeastern conference's taking the field amid the coronavirus pandemic. The move comes one day. After the Big Ten PAC twelve announced, they would not be participating this fall There's a chance that those two leagues will push their seasons to the spring, but that remains to be determined the masters Well, they're not GONNA have fans this year. All three majors. This year of the Year of cove nineteen will not have fans and he's don't take be silenced figures be the most deafening at Augusta national when the Masters is played November twelfth through the fifteenth. New Churchill downs officials expect less than twenty three thousand fans will be able to attend next month's rescheduled. Kentucky Derby Nonni women here today under updated health and safety. Plan. Spectators were not allowed for the Churchill downs spring meet but the track is Senate in June that the general mission would be limited to the twenty six acre Infield for the Derby and finally the big ten conference shutdown a fall football because the pandemic please everybody in the League and the University of Nebraska made it known if not, adamantly that's still wants to play and guess who also wants to play. North Dakota. State. The Oscars playing a non conference game in Lincoln Nebraska. cornhuskers originally scheduled hosts, South Dakota state on September nineteenth. But that game was scratch because you know the big ten, they said a canceled game so. Basketball to yet by the way not yet. have. Not Been discussed. Yet what do you think? Ron. Sorry I was looking at a tweet about the guy from London he's a real person. So yeah, Andy. Yeah. Confused. We do the virtual root party what three or four weeks ago. A whole bunch of psych essentially on zoom call. And Marnie Gilmer was very confused why some random British do the part of it I would do I, would be too but Nebraska they're stupid. Just. Got It. They go I mean there's I mean seriously the like you can't just go to another conference. Like it's like your wife saying, we're not playing a day and then you think you're gonna go to some other lady's House you can't do that. No that'd be nice for the fall. No, you have to sit there and wait until spring and do that. Now you gotta stay with your wife. You cannot leave conferences but what if your wife says she doesn't want to be with you but you still say Today. That right now what does she likes football but not with you great. If you. Don't think they told her BRASSICA they. Hold on how we can figure this out but we get it Nebraskan Arcana in the the boat of if we don't test, we don't know we have it so. that's why they feel like. Okay. Let's just go do this. We're not going to test anybody. So nobody has the coronavirus. Let's play football. Just. Wait like let's wait a little bit I. still agree like put players in the bubble is play football. Like bubble school online plays in football. Bubbles working for two sports it certainly chiller NBA. Claim they are frustrated in mental like Jaylen Brown I saw that he's mentally frustrated right now he said, and then Stephen as suggested conjugal visits. So See Brandon all comes back to you people. Yeah. You go your ruined the tall. The power wanting show with Ron Johnson it is on the fan. To cafe. It's twins on the twenties powered by Wicks jewelers discover the best selection of pre owned rolexes at Weixin Jewelers. The twins defeated the Milwaukee brewers last night by a score of twelve to two Miguel L. Went Yard while Marlin. Gonzales went two for four. Byron Buxton had not one but two Dinger's while that's makes him a frigging nature right to twelve and seven. Salamanders. Everybody ahead by the. Marlin was a hit. Everybody at the. End of the fourth inning So I was really good game for the toys. Directive. Wants to sketch so bad really does watch Zach go from normal to the Sirius radio. Voice. Do can flip on the switch though we've said that. Zach. You think he's either asleep or maybe dead, and then it's like, Zach, do sports pay twins. Flip the switch. G. Right now he's fallen asleep. Didn't that happen in like didn't Alan do that in hangover where he likes. rambled off something. No that was. A different feral in The one where they go to college. Yes. Right right. Right. Yeah. That's Kinda was actress local. Jake order easy on the mound tomorrow. Good. Thing called Shake Judas or genus or Janus I don't know. I'd that's been around. Dinger's up at Janus. Janus. Could, be yeah he's French. Was Twins in the twentieth. Thanks. Weekend Jewelers. Minnesota Swiss watch experts. Jane. Showed it Did you see in the prep today Corey, the list of personal hygiene things I did the average person? I want to go through these because a couple of these just fascinate me free Colbert or these are right now so Right. Just. So we don't forget because I don't even know what you were saying, but off the air like half an hour ago, he said we were. Brother bears well to I do need still worth getting. Very smoke. One Minute don't you don't Fifty don't remember. It's it's almost over we do that all the time. That's why I always like. You gotta tease what does next in the show and I go superpower trip we don't know what's. We might send Zach wild goose chase unless it's eight fifteen and Friday. We don't know what we're talking about next segment Alan Right and I'm GonNa Forget in that five or ten minute break what I teased did you really leave the building? Across the street to the parking ramp by the the showplace icon theaters up there on the top. Five in the fourth force, I had no reason to not believe lied to me before he loves a why wouldn't you say go outside income to continental diamond originally it sound like why not just caller does she? was a distressing situations. Yeah. Why not call I didn't you call a great question? Why did you call it? We didn't think that. Millennial. Guys. Texts. Follow. Calling her never came to my brain, my head. When I was watching that I did see last night on instagram. I was wondering that like just caller it's a great point because I never thought of either. except. Thought it'd be like where the hell are you at Marnie Get off your trampoline. I sent her picture instead. Go I go left or right right Pitcher. That is. So we're. Today I'm glad you pointed they just text each other nonstop instead of just call they can get into a full blown text argument would nudes. You argue with a new surprise take standard renewed. Take. Don't get to take that. Throw the gauntlet down you know. Boxing it to Dinger's last night. Okay. Here we go. All right How often do you shower daily sometimes twice a day right I'm like every other day really you tell yeah I don't do anything my wife doesn't like that either but if I don't do anything or not about to have sex I'm not taking a shower right? Well, I'm GonNa tell you right now if I didn't shower everyday, everyone would know it I'm thinking man Stinky Stinky to sit in the house do just doing nothing I accumulate odor I suck it in from other folks I don't know what's going on way Never, mind reading you. I. Mean I'm a stinky man not though I bring plenty of buses with you. You're hot and sweaty. Arts are the ones with what shower is not gonNA help Fart. Since. Mel. spart in the shower unless sometimes after I, need a shower. I'm once a day I'm every day once a day man. Bran hobble you. Every other day from situation. Showering, too much. Skip a day showers on Monday I shower Tuesday. Do. You always wash your hair when you shower no no no maybe twice a week wash my hair black. You can't do that anyway. Really no women black especially they don't wash their they can't watch their every day. No kidding. Yeah I. Didn't know that. I did. Black girls can wash their hair everyday. It. Shower cap is just the way our hair is made up it doesn't work. It doesn't you can't. They don't like the white girls, wash their hair, and then blow dry and day. Essences. Black woman in herbal essence like they wear a shower cap and then they only wash their hair when they're either going to get it done or right before they get it done. Yeah Harlow. Shower cap though right now great low if your butt naked with shower tab. Your sexy. Yeah. There's no doubt about it. John Rancho. I don't know if I can John. You're telling me you'RE GONNA look at Halle Berry say Sour Cap I'm good. News search term I think I might like in more other about it. Like a grandma that's. Already showers. How often do you change your underwear? Daily every day. How How that not normal that has to be the I mean I don't always wear underwear. So then but what if I yeah, why do you wear it? Why would you unaware every day? You don't have to man my testicles must hang lower nears. These, things would just shave if I didn't wear undies all the time. I should try not wearing underwear. I've never tried to go out on a limb. Gave me just. Start with a shower. See what happens where shower keffer? Just, once act where's our Hours sometimes I change under in the middle of the day. Yeah I've done that. brought an extra pair to Fargo last week just in case things got crazy. We noticed a you are does a shower. And a mask. Always always had my grandmother my hair like if you wear clean underwear case, you go to the hospital. We were all told I was told that for sure. You've never told that. No, I don't care if you make. Hospital. Reasoning the embarrassment factor, it's if you have to go to the hospital quickly in an emergency situation, you don't want the doctor to see you have dirty underwear. But again, we're the nurse. The funny joke is always that if I'm in a car crash, I'm GonNa have dirty underwear. No matter what. Right, right is is the reason you don't wear into war just in case you go to the hospital run. But look up. I'll turn my car. It depends what you're wearing right if you're wearing sweatpants, you could probably get away with no underwear. You're wearing jeans. How can you go jeans inaugural? No no not the Geez I'm just saying like if you wake up, you got on shorts, just go to the grocery store. You know what's weird and I mean this I'm always very especially in shorts or sweatpants conscious that you might be able to see my shape. Yeah. Pants. John Gray joggers, Tigre joggers what are they? Lingerie lingerie for I thought you said, sorry. I thought, it was a new brand. Okay. Janus. Thirteen percent of people surveyed do not wear underwear I'm going to try to change them every day I'm not gonNA wear. No good for you. Means, though where's weapons these canceled work? Those. Sweating. Zipper. That's all my. Zippers. I don't Lululemon shorts. No they they're like the JC Penney version of it. Okay. Look good on them. Thank you Chris. I, it means a lot. You're welcome. Zach get his legs on the table. Member ex very flexible name surprise. JC Penney still living. Place Holes JC Penney. Sears I'm in big bag because you go to there and you go get pants and they're not three thousand dollars like go to. The cold you can go navy and get pants and aren't three thousand dollars. Yeah. That's great. I love to Kohl's and they bring you up at seven hundred dollars and then they take all the discounts off his three. In the receipt is like ten feet long and they're like, here's two hundred dollars Kohl's cash. Four thousand dollars. In spend your two hundred dollars in Kohl's Kohl's cash three weeks from now for an hour and a half. It's they give you the smallest possible window to cash Lausanne. Like ten dollars call cash. Because I had a Amazon Return So I showed up and they give them my thing to send back to. And they gave me ten dollars, Kohl's cash for showing up. They want you to come. You know one lie I tell every day at least once a day. Yeah I'll take I'll take that survey. Whenever they give you. The survey, you get ten dollars. Gift Card you get free pop I'm like yeah you got a great service. Thank you wad. Trash. I can receive Rosie Rosie. I can't live on the Radio Rosie. Begin for you. When I was driving in me up. Yeah. Right up let's get a break. You get that right away the also a non underwear where're likes to go command. Command suggest Vikings News is next. We'll get Ron Johnson's take on Everson Griffen being a Dallas Cowboy and. So. Much more about how this NFL season's GonNa Work in the Code Era Johnson and Mark Rosen per vikings news next on the power trip. Come to apply. No matter how hard you try you stop now? Back seven, forty nine relates let's get right to this. Time Four Vikings. Presented by. RADCOW. Excess. Thank you to radcow and thanks radcow Everson Griffen. Me Forget about the way we have to circle back to raising its machine with Ron, Johnson? Okay right. But when we went to break playing down Rodale. Ron just goes. He just say. Those people haven't seen a brown skin. Man's their grandparents when I'm like, yeah the rapper and the guitar player black just so you know. Black guys and rage against the machine. So It's not. It's not it's not as races. It sounds like rail. Now you've basically admitted you have almost no knowledge of. None we can change that but more importantly. News. Quick should've how old are you if you don't mind me asking just turned forty no kidding. Yeah. May Be Right. I would think that you would have run across them the locker room somewhere anyway no. For Real it's Kind of music that man you know. If I've heard it working out and again just listened to that. Yes. I don't like you can like you can bench press. I might have heard it. I'm pretty sure because we used to do the round robin deal where one guy picks next guy picks and it was always honestly it was funny because you could tell when a black guy white guy pig. And then the white guy will get excited when he picked like Dreyer, some ellen ear by this is my song yeah. But. Yeah. It Never I. mean if I have no idea, they were no clue we'll change that. Aye Rosie Good Morning. Against Machine. Fan. Got To. Well that's my business the end of an era because Everson Griffen now, a Dallas Cowboy Ron your thoughts on the one year six, million dollar deal that signed with the cowboys I mean he's at the end of his career. He does have some I think there's a lot left tank. But they had the money. I think that's the key. The Vikings. I mean, honestly, looking at the salary cap and all the stuff we've talked about They weren't a huge opt out groups that everyone going to get a bunch of cash back from is you besides Michael Peers? That's the only. Relief they're going to get. So I mean when you're looking at Alvin Cook. If that's your goal, you can't you know I'm pretty sure whatever they offered Everson if it was to have three million, you know honestly if if if they had offered him six, I still don't know if he would've took that I mean my my thought is if the Vikings are few three in Dallas offers you three, you go to Dallas because you're upset that the Vikings dinoff you more you know but you're willing to take whatever another team gives you kind of a deal. but that was a good fit I mean we saw with Dallas could be what they're gonNa be you know the offense they have ever? They're just say, Hey, come in like second third downs rushed the by force I think that's a good move for him such with the Vikings out of like to see him back because I mean that saints game was kind of a thought a prelude to what we could do this year with him put them in in the three techniques spot. Kicking down you know some of those other guys like Joe Johnson and using the net capacity keeping a file dinner bone outside but you know Rugged. Lifelong NFL seventy four and a half sacks fourth in franchise history forever. Beyond the stats I mean as run knows he brought a lot of energy to that locker of not just on game days but during the week and you always want guys like that, who continually are fired up I mean the the Johnny Randall kind of mentality of going to work every day and I think that's something that permeated the Vikings Locker Room with avenue I look at. Again I'll say this Rondo, the NFL this this just in it's a business and I think the Vikings were pretty much convinced that was not gonNA come back they. They may have made some last minute overtures kind of feel feel a little bit and see if he's willing to come back at discounted price but I think that at decision was made months ago that in all likelihood he was not going to return to the Vikings because there would be another team. Interesting that we're doing vikings news literally one month from today, the Vikings opened up against the packers. US Bank and the. Questions I have I still have not clarified on how various teams are handling. Any fans I've heard different stories. Jerry Jones. Said we're opening up and the packers have said we're going to have ten to twenty thousand. I haven't heard a word about the vikings ticket situation. I'm wondering if ticket season ticket holder heard anything I know they just sort of gotten the camp we're talking a month away and from the US Bank stadium and I still don't have any idea that if any fans will be allowed in my sumptuous has no Florida, I would be too because I. Think it's a state sort of mandated situation as well. When you talk about crowds when you can't go to concerts can't go to movie theaters ankle. So why would you be allowed? Any fans would be allowed to US bank stadium but I haven't heard anything officially it looks like most NFL teams are going to be fan lists. Vikings are one of them. I I think that's going to be the case the lions are used to that anyone. Well by the third order they are. Making thirty minutes ago, PJ Hall, the the defensive tackle of the Vikings traded for seven round pick to the Vegas Raiders. Then he failed his physical. So he went back and they just released him which they were about to do before the Vikings traded for him. Anyway. According to Field Yates this morning he's signing with the Texans Lau. So he failed his physical here. We don't know what that means but the Texans are saying we'll take him. For a second round hasn't worked out for the raiders in the physical could be so many different things though I could have been not to the weight. They. Thought because a trade is different than just a sign when you're cutting, you're on the street you can show up with no pinkie toe and teams will take you when you're trading for somebody. You WanNa make sure we're getting exactly what we said we for several round pick and again we know regrets his picks before several round pick. This is what we expect of this guy when he showed up who knows what he looked like you know what he was telling them you know no clue. Just could have been a bad day on the treadmill. that. Doctor made clear him cry very loosely. You may just go out. Is Texas so Thank you. Football for them the other way I mean we saw Friday night. Saying that absolutely killer man I watched that again, the other night you're smart city blue wasn't cringe when you Friday night lights a little bit. Yeah. It's. It's heads the ask a little bit. Both the Varsity Blues too. Yeah. That group yeah you know the big big boy and you know. It's big. Lou Billy Bob could you imagine if that was your teacher? She was a stripper. Yeah. Yeah. Easily imagined that Corcoran. That actually was not hard at all. You got to go back in time watch North Dallas forty. Nine. That's one that. Nickel. Dallas it was Debbie was never mind North Forty Texas North Dallas. A book based. Nick Nolte was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah okay. Shot up before the game and. Four days? Yeah. He was a singer who the black curly hair. Country Singers Robert. He acted as the quarterback in that only. Ever. Now. What the Hell is. Anyway, we'll take a man I haven't thought of that movie in years frozen. That was that was the first one that kind of broke that mold of the inside look at what what happens yeah. You break your whole body in his. Next the eight o'clock hour power care morning, a feature headlines, Ron Johnson Mark Rosen, and more. Power morning show on the fan. Hey everybody the power morning. Thanks for sticking around. It's eight Oh to mark Rosen added Thursday. Ben Lever Tommy Olsen. They're both on vacation Ron Johnson with this of course, corey myself in sausage out Zack and bb or here. Rage, against the machine on a Thursday. And don't forget twenty four hours from right now will be releasing the next tell teachers. I should say in the state fair t shirt line for. KFI In. So. That's a big thing. Sola Butler t-shirts this week. Thank you for that. Her shisong. Probably heard the term. Bob. It's the mine is some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses. Wasn't originally that. No. But I've heard this on the mood Remember which one but it was that part that done don't. Step Up. The dance move really. At the. You know the you know the story with that. For you with the knowledge here. So the original Eric's were some of those who work Congress. Are the. Fern while the record label when so he just wanted to. Play live. They say that way yeah. Think Chris Cornell covered it with obviously, and he's saying the original lyrics so Fund Trivia their. Tarmac David. That's David. yeah quarterback in North Dallas Forty nineteen seventy-nine movies we were just Looking at clips from that movie over here. Yeah Nick Nolte it's all. Cool. Stay up to seventy CM. They were. Like it could lots about the seventy. Just get stoked. It's Only a couple of different letters. Is Was it John Matuzek in that movie. He may have played a role in it. I don't know because it was it was based on it was A. Basically. Basically The Dallas Cowboys Dallas. Don Meredith. Peter Gent says, there is an autobiographical. Book semiotics autobiography movie but You know based on yeah. This is what happens behind the scenes. Painkillers. Steroids take the neal man here in comes anti. Kademi award in nineteen eighty five. That's right for what was that fine film called Bob. Dole. Needs time for fan five. Builders and remodelers. Thanks bill doesn't mean and thank you. Thank you. All of you, the Minnesota twins beat the drunken S- Connie's twelve to to Byron Bucks and finally woke up rosie a bad start to the year. But all of a sudden he's crushing everything he has been the home runs last night hit one. My Ada went to six in two thirds five hits, two runs, five strikeouts look it up on your phone. Yeah, I think. It was an easy easy indicted ballpark for the twins after a frustrating loss the night before, and now it kind of makes sense and it was kind of inside baseball wide. Rocco. Ball Deli. I think uses bullpen the way he did the night before you know throwing out think both trevor Mantila Rogers even though the pitch the night before that because I, think he felt like last night was going to be kind of walk in the park with the pitching matchup and my ada pitching and probably not needing the use those guys and having a day off today So it makes a little bit more sense maybe he's smarter than I thought. Anyway it was. Yeah, it's great to see Byron Buxton in that kind of grew right now and and and season such an important cog in this baseball team into snow getting his timing back. He'd launched one I don't think that ball still going through the breweries out there in Milwaukee, but really narrow it down at. That's true. They're everywhere sitting there at Miller Park in south by the river. He's living in a trailer park, the river. The Pittsburgh Penguins have decided to keep their first round pick. They're not gonNA, give it to the wild wild. We'll get their first rounder next year now well, she'll be. As part of the Jason Sucker trade right. Then still it was the final piece of that trade. Jason's back home. He could probably call in any time they're done. JAREN SOUTH DAKOTA Are they? Yeah. Okay. I think they're lamping only. Really. Wow Carly text me that last night. ooh. I get that I text. Because, we were invited her to the niners she wants her daughter to come out. So Bracelet so Cool And then she's like Oh, we're taught to. Let me know next time? Yeah. I did like busy did like the lamping trip was set up before the penguins were knocked out. One of those Jason's like. Having a great time when they get knocked out. Around one and it's A man I got to. Disconnect and just kind of get my head straight melt you're coming with US and South Dakota. He's been in a hotel room two three weeks now probably will. Go Home Sleep in his own. Song tent roughly the too much. I'm sure. A BIG TEN Commissioner Kevin Warren shot down the idea of Nebraska plane outside of the big ten he said no and then he said not and be a member of the big ten. His point is basically you go rogue good luck getting back the big ten I I want them to try just so we can kick them out like I I want them to try that like that would be a fun I mean it's twenty twenty. We might as well end it with a bang. You go play and then watch Kevin warned break up which you kind of brings up the discussion. Why was the breast Giver Loud in the Big Ten to begin with I mean. yeah. You're right I know the answer but yeah, we with Rutgers Maryland but. Kind of they look a little foolish about the whole thing right now it's just let them go. Let's get Iowa state in the. IDEA. Why not Saint Thomas. We go nobody. ooh But Zach. I loved Saint Thomas in the big ten Tommy's again. It's twenty twenty. It's a weird year. Why not get really they? I mean they would give regards as you've records again you're right. Yesterday was so weird like Caruso St Herman Cain was tweeting I saw the head and then I'd. Signal when I saw the tweet when rex rex Chapman tweeted above his tweet and said, sorry, I'm not trying to be insensitive but aren't you day? I was like confused I had to Google way he is dead. He died. That's what makes even more. He tweeted about the Kamala Harris by down could basically be a train wreck going dad guy is tweeting his political tweeden people's tweeting funnier because. I didn't realize variety worked from hail. Connection down there. Pretty good somebody else's like the Kevin swayze take your phone. Easy. Patrick swayze. person. Driving down wants to go on. Talking to talk about ways. Patrick brother though that was an actor. Yeah. What the Hell's that guy's heavy is don. Sounds like. Is it. Does your. God was born on August his birthday three days ago. Didn't you? Why don't we stop the show and celebrate on Nair whatever the? Party I can't name one film. Warm he looks just like Patrick swayze but worse. But like he's been in a lot of fights et. Truth he's one of those guys roadhouse Oh man those look like this is that he's an actor. Yeah he's. There's no nice sweet. Say What? It is like if you see Dan ways pictures, you would think it's an ugly guy trying to win a patrick? swayze. Patrick swayze now. Oh My oh wow. That's That's cold. CEO tweet yesterday. Herman. And fourth was it a relative of hurricane because he had the blue checkmark? Parody, ause daughter says she was going to carry on but. They need to change it to. please. She said, she put on facebook she was going to carry on his legacy or something and dad would have either going. It's not how. You everybody was mad about we have a blue checkmark because we're twitter has confirmed that it's you you're or tweet too. But I can't get a blue chakma right no, you don't get to carry on his twitter legacy. No. If you want to carry on his legacy, do it elsewhere right you don't get to tweet when the guy's dead work that way remember remember just a couple of months ago. Funny. But I was just thinking the next tweet was like man is coughing this type Lockley. Humor. Man I miss. Earth. Ground when he talked. About everything. Before Don. I should've worn that mask and tell say said I miss earth like he died and went to they buried them Amar's or well. They sent them to Mars in that space base again. They're. Going to be the first guy to go tomorrow guys twitter. Really Cool. But remember a couple months ago twitter had to reverse course because they were gonNA, start purging. Dead, people's accounts. And they stopped they had to because they because speaking of legacies, there were people that were arguing, well, my my such and such relative passed away. But I have ten years of his or her thoughts, searchers radios like if you delete that I. Zena piece of them. So I would say deleted I was just like stop the don't Let. Up there. Don't cut it I can access it and see it but no one should be allowed to tweet from it. Just add r.i.p to their handle allow whoever is John Johnson who wants that handle who's still alive right next to the checkmark put like a skull and cross bright. Dead tweeter that really brands laugh. Yeah, oh. That's brilliant. I that was a button bar. No no he's the only person that laughs at my jokes anymore. We don't have any wipe does jokes God. We just meet. One joke. No. No. In fact, that's one of my favorite jokes that doesn't get a laugh. I walk around the house going do remember when I thought when you thought it was funny because we've been together for almost eleven years. She has to really go back to think of the last time she laughed at something I said, it's probably been almost a decade. Have you tried the naked man the watson naked man what the hell does that mean you just walk in the House and just get butt naked stand there is just like a tick. Tock Challenge. Boy It is but and I guarantee you a chuckle. That workout well for you it's humor. Was He the one thing either you'll get a laugh or you'll get six so either way it's a win win one PM What is snap. It's a callback you gotta listen to the whole show. After one bell's like wait there's a time to get naked. Awesome. Can make you. Know you don't. You don't wreck nap time for the power to Ono. Eleven to one even for sex I mean. I'm GonNa say it again, Zach. You don't mess with naptime. Maybe. Snaps or so if your wife was naked, you would still take a nap time is. Eleven thirty. I fell asleep half an hour ago. I'm sorry. You said if my wife is butt naked. I'm taking a nap in three minutes. I. Get the. Second What's more likely that my wife is button naked today that Herman Cain tweet. She'll be but naked, you just won't be home. Maybe Hermano tweet about. Sports Update? That was that was. Good. Sports cats I Rueda. Part. swayze. Spending Don I just saw a movie that he was the bad guy I swear to you I did he's always the bad guy because he looks like a bad guy looks like Charlie Sheen a little bit somebody's. Charlie's not gonNA like that. All right headlines is next. Ron. Johnson is here Mark Rosen is here this. Hour trip morning. Jonathan before we go to break me I talked to you please but he looks like he's ready now. H. Twins on the twenty powered by weeks and jewelers discover the best selection of pre owned rolexes at wickson jewelers. Byron Buxton double be doubled up the brewers with a couple of homers says, the twins routed the brewers last night while the to the final at Miller Park Nagorno he also went yard it when they get this rosy was saying earlier might still be going four, hundred, forty, two, feet mark Saltzman two, four, two, rb I was a great win for the twins now have a night off to celebrate and have some fun before they get ready for the Kansas City Royals Tomorrow Night J. Just, come concern dolphins dolphins don't have anything on them. is on the mound for the twins. Hugh Janus is on the mound for the. See related to Yohane Amos suspicious. Yeah. Strangely enough they share a first name and last name it's a weird thing. He's joining US Joanna us. He's out. He opted. Not playing. Doing this. Time Four. Presented by Michelob Golden Light. Yes. Ron You said, you liked this bit. Oh. Yeah. Because I always liked especially when you get to the weird stuff, I like to think of my hair like was that a white or black person? Yeah IT'S A. that. We better not play round you played the game. Here. Oh. Airplane. White or black. Guys about equality. You guys can chicken out world. We're comfortable playing this game. Here we go. Story. Want is a white guy. You don't give it away. Guest. How many words in before everybody screams wake I ready. Walmart. The biker rally in Sturgis. Finish it down so Rally Sturgis. Week was so focused on validity in denying the corona virus, that one bar hosted a contest to see who could sneeze the furthest into the crowd. No you're making you're making has. True. Story Definitely why? Why guys wait? Even. You know it mind. How do you measure a sneeze like who? WHO DOES STUPID PEOPLE Like. Did they quit like food coloring in their nose first and then sneeze and see where? This the purpose of that even if it is aid fake illness, don't sneeze me. That's gross. Any time that is correct. A woman in Pennsylvania was arrested after she towed her son and his friend home from a long bike ride using a towel of the tow line but then her son fell and got run over by his friend. Bicycles. Yes. It kind of water skiing on bicycles though behind a car. Towing, tolling the sun in the front with a towel line son falls and the guy in the back bike runs over the stuff. That's any. Any rate, stupid. Yeah. All right. All right A guy in Florida was was busted for driving one, hundred, thirty, two miles an hour. WHOA. With his six month old baby in the car. Pulled Up Rommel let you take this one. That's Florida. It could be anything it's also Florida. Are. If, you just Google Florida Man Yeah. Best stories ever pop almost always posted today is international lefthanders day. Again. So what do they get to do? Stupidest famous left and right Obama Sandy Koufax. Flanders. handers day we use our left hand today. But. I'LL GIVE IT A. Day to celebrate left-handed people. My favorite basketball players left hand it. was. That James Harden. Core, just the one I loved you. McCartney is How would you know that the way he plays guitar and Bass? A huge misconception that in Montoya's left handed and he's not, he's not the man in black also not left handed. He's inferior. CAIN parter. Parter parter both of us are. Killing, it. Maple cream orioles are coming back this fall. There you go. Rosie. It's hard pass. Maple. Tree Morio's the person decided that as white. Company India is giving women listen up brand for you. 'cause you're a chick. Accompany India is giving women up to ten days off a year for menstrual pains and cramps I. Love It. Penn days off a year. that. Not, Maher? Twelve days. Thirty eight once a month. Yeah, which sense I don't know. I'm tired of women getting. All. This. Fisher price released a toy set called my Home Office where kids can. Like their parents. So it the phone head that coffee, Cup, Laptop, it's twenty, five Bucks Times. You can pretend that you're working from home like dad wine bottle and the. Stories couple of years from now going there, there's a thing called. The office besides the TV show that we used to go to we used to get a car driving more and get a cup of coffee and go to the office in for what the kids are looking and go what does that. I don't understand what that is. No they don't exist anymore. Let's say wedding. That's a cash grab. That's just people right now. Let me do that old boy building office at home with their legos. That's fun. I like legos. Man. Bill something fun like Batman or they did. They did a haunted house done all that board the avengers they did. They did that. Naming things. We are currently in a Dr pepper shortage and people are about it and Dr. Pepper. tweeted quote. We know it's harder to find Dr Pepper these days we're working on it. Hang tight, and then Herman Cain some. Some kid crying. I is insane because he thinks Mr better than Dr. Pepper. Wrong. But. Anyway. If you're looking for Dr Pepper apparently, it's hard to normal get it to Dr. Any sense at all let's stop bottling it. A guy in Lima Peru is recently looking through Google maps because he's bored as hell? But. He was looking through Google maps and he spotted his wife sitting on a bench. With, another man's head on her lap aw Google maps. Yep. He confronted her about it and then she admitted she was having an affair and they're getting divorced lets you do with the body? We can do. I don't usually it's the other way around. My sources say. Dan Google maps. Right, sauce and NCWA exact says there will be March madness in twenty twenty one. I don't know how anybody can guess at at this point though clearly that's the plan but whatever one person at least says yet happening well, they said last night on PD they're thinking of doing the bubble. We've had August madness. We've had if they have March. Bad Is. Right they'll have every sport in the world going on if everything goes on scheduled but. Think about long ways away might as well just pay to college basketball player to sit in a bubble. Yeah. Yeah, we're not. Ninety six percent of parents still plan to celebrate Halloween let their kids go trick or treating according to a recent survey or if they did according to trends here are the top ten. Or Twenty twenty. As of today, we only have two months sneaking up on us. Horror movie characters obviously. Michael Myers. Video game characters are big this year they're expecting a lot of fortnight halo in Super Mario costumes this year. Everyday. Heroes like doctors, nurses and police officers. Okay. Frozen characters stolen. The Mix. Tiger King costumes. The kids know about that, right? That's an adult making. That's an adult. That is going to a party thinking they're super creative. And you're gonNA realize immediately how out of touch with everything you are if Halloween had been April first right? Everyone would have had tiger king costumes. Carol Vascular would have been that Bitch Carol Basket Bitch? Pink you. You're welcome Rosie. Say at the right thing ever watched that you're not missing now you're gonNA it was awesome. But now it's too late. You can't go back. Say Anyway, it was a waste of time as a guy, he's wrong. It wasn't. It was not a waste of time I. enjoyed. It is unbelievable I. Still think that if you haven't seen an hour, it would be a fascinating thing to watch least a couple of episodes maybe. With everybody though I need to be sober notre either either either way through two episodes and you can just watch while you drive. What? The rest of the top ten wonder woman characters, birds, ray characters like Harley Quinn skeletons, zombies, and politicians basically route all the top ten any there you go. I just wanted to bring it up. His tiger. Kingston the mix. David Blaine next big trick is GonNa. Be a curious George. Trick. I heard it's been a while since he's done a live. Yeah, what do you want to call it? Is You're, GONNA highlight. So some people are calling curious George and people are calling it the up trick because he's GonNa float over New York City with helium filled balloons. Non by the hand, the stunt is happening August thirty first and will air live. On Youtube. Woody, make him. I don't know. I don't know about him as a guy, but as as a magician, he's awesome. He's had some weird allegations in the past but. Upload cartoons. Twenty minutes in kill the mom off the grandma. Yeah thirty, five, hundred, thirty, five, hundred, five, hundred balloons to make a man float won't. We. All float. Here, we do. A quick anniversaries you go. Thirty eight years ago today Fast Times at Ridgemont. High. Wow. With, one of the most famous nude scenes in movie history. Yes. In the cates getting out of the pool of. Your thoughts, Rosie on that specific. Daddy's enjoyments yet is joining us. I think. The remote control probably hit the pause button. Times see but you got drawn. To, and that came up, I didn't see fast times at Renault Way Law School right? Were they having a party at a pool like it was kind of going crazy. No? No, no no. No. Just thinking of Animal House. Here's another. Earl in the pool. Yeah he's thinking of the golf movie caddyshack. Down the slide yeah. Yeah you know Weirdo. Right I know exactly what you're talking about but Phoebe cates gremlins so. Phoebe cates to me in the eighties was in the guy that got out of the pool topless show is. Gal from grumbling she's still married to Kevin. Kline is that right? Yeah. So that was thirty eight years ago today this man in the world twenty, five years ago today Yankees Hall of Famer. Mickey. Mantle died after a battle with liver cancer he was sixty three. Thousand Great Mickey Mantle. Stories. Last, but definitely, not least. Matt stone and Trey Parker. Twenty three years ago today on comedy central debuted South Park Crazy. Nineteen Ninety seven I was a junior in high school. Right you're. Massive deal it was and For the fifteenth time on the show that the first year or two South Park. It really was just about how did Kenny Die In the fact that you know nine year olds were swearing that's what it was. It wasn't that creative. It was just kind of offensive to be offensive. Now it's super, smart. Even in one thousand, nine, hundred all when Kennywood Areso death and they would say, Oh, my God, they killed Kenny. We lost our minds. We thought it was the coolest cartoon ever. This was. To issue. So yes, after Beavis and butthead started to kind of. So we transitioned right from Beavis and butthead right into South Park. When hurry you said that you gotTa make, mental story all, I just I. I was thinking about the context of honestly came out went over because I was thinking about in the context of being fans right now and the frustration of not being able to go to target field this weekend beautiful weekend with Kansas City Mickey Mantle was in town years ago I got a chance to go to a lunch with him six people and he was About He tells the story about how he had this recurring nightmare of being outside of the Yankee Stadium looking in the ballpark and seeing all his friends you know from eighty four Nelson. Howard. Roger mears playing, and he tried to burrow his way into Yankee Stadium and he couldn't get in to play and the ultimate frustration you break out in sweat while he was sleeping because he'd just you know he was frustrated because he's knees had been shot by then he couldn't play baseball at at any kind of level anymore after at. The actually retirement but I thought about the context right now with sports because it's fun to watch but I feel like we're on the outside and we can't get in and that's that's the tough part we can our sports we can't actually get into the Ballpark as fans to to watch him and it just seems odd it seems different in this part of the world we're living in right now. I'm so upset right now, what's that I just got a text from Abbott Right now asking me if I can get a copy of receive from dinner you had with making man. He. Alone. Donaldson's paid for it. So that's All right one final segment with Ron. Johnson and Mark Rose Rosen this is the power trip born in. Gary. Leone. Too. Morning Show final segment eight forty three on the nut. Rosie's here Ron Johnson's here. Korea Myself Saucier. Be Back tomorrow trying to go for four in a row on that initial game and what does the seventy five hundred how much we do not even know up to seventy, five, hundred it was seven grand last week. Grabs, you are not eligible nine. Take a shot that what would you guess tomorrow the initials yeah. Go for it. DM. Bowl. Final tomorrow. Fifteen. Seventy five hundred dollars. If. You only get one guess that you're changing. That's their only. Run yes. Sir Action Questions for you. About your football career might that's an answer sn. Okay. Cool. Make stuff up to if you I will all right around you were drafted to the Baltimore Ravens. was in that same draft one, Ed Reed was the first round pick up the hall of Fame Self Tell me about at read. He was a good guy. I mean we we came in together. So my experience, my rookie year. With people have heard the stories of like you know the coach causing to the off is bring your playbook Blah Blah and then they talked to you in the NATO you may team or a we're going to different direction billick me and Edward Last, and so we were the last two like sitting in the lobby. So billy just Oh, both of us come in. So that was kind of a sigh of relief because I'm like there's no way. He's GonNa, cut me with Ed Reed in here. That would be rude be a great. Value Hey we're keeping ed but hey, what? Was the first round. What if our I guess? One of you made the. One of you did not. Sweat for a separate. Oh, he started the last game. So pretty sure he knew. Okay. If I started last preseason game, they're trying to see how I fit in with the stars. So yeah. But so how how dynamic dude behind the scenes because on the field he's it's hard to be super entertaining as a defender. Dion was. Ed Reed is my all time favorite defender Yeah and we got the ball. It was about what it felt like a ninety percent chance he was returned and even those numbers don't work in the findings would he would pick it off in the end zone and you would hear coaches yelling get down down and he was bringing out. No No. I dumber. Four seconds later, he's like thirty yards down the field. Like Patterson eventually even if even if he caught it. Into, the, end zone it. Patterson you gotTa let them try. It was ED prepared because. So our lockers was me Ed Ray Lewis and so I would see ed you know I mean we have people where in that same corner through like it was I don't know how I ended up over there. Travis Taylor and todd he brand stokely like that was our kind of area for one reason though too because we were all clean like we would we were the guys that had like tape on the ground and say, this is your backyard. If you're crap is all over the place kick, we'll kick you out So we Kinda had they were joke that are. We had like a nice community where our lawn but it was you know trade cameras borings you gotta make up stuff But ed I would watch him like he would always be sitting down talking to ray every break of where it's you know to it as the middle real two a days to practice. We're taking our little nap before lunch and then we're going to. Go back on the field eggs like he's over there. Talking to Ray Playbook Coleman half I. do this. What happens if this if you move here was this and he would even come talk to us. Hey if you're going to run this route, what are you know? What? What, what are you most likely going to do like he wanted to see that he wanted to see the head nod he wanted to see. Like. If I'm running a post and travis has a big like what does it look like and that's why he was so good at guessing because he would watch certain things that normal guys would watch because we would always say la if Ben Rothlisberger just looked one second he was a hines ward was down the field et new. He's like well yeah. But I also saw this guy do this so I'm running through. and interception you know so and honestly the Ravens. Defense they let them do it because you got look Terrell suggs off the edge our second year, and so it was more so of you don't have time you didn't have time to the so I knew that too. He's like, Hey, you only have two and a half three seconds. So he kind of backed back out I want that two seconds in his head he's. I got to go somewhere while you're about to get rid of it and he was great at that like instincts were just but he was a good dude though like he would he would call me in the Middle Nile Hey man let's go grab some food or we drove we drove down to DC one time we're we just wrote to DC and we're playing video games in my car once we got there and I thought about that like, why did we sit in the car and play video? Before we went to the club like that was his dumb. But that was you know we were twenty four. What else do you do games in the car until you go into club? We? He would. You know we would always because he he live right in like where you guys playing with yourselves not what ourselves but yeah. We didn't go. We didn't go that far like in the car plan against roll down the windows really. Yeah Man. I just made a great play. Like me him chester Taylor will dams. We're all rookies get. So Bart Scott we all hang out a lot of big names. Yeah, we had a nice group rookies it came in at year. Chemo ought to, and so we would all like you know it was it was the guy that would get emails go by raise house. So we'd all just get dressed. Go to raise house hang out in a beer be like a huge party out of nowhere like we're we're just GONNA hang out at raise house 'cause Ed would always do that he would aim analysts all gold downtown. Let's do they WANNA do a team Which I'm guessing that's that Miami thing you know I. I feel like the Miami guys all those. Way And Santana. Moss. And Clinton all those guys to this day still hang out like that like they are tight knit group and I think that's what it was trying to get with the Ravens and I remember getting raised housing like Holyfield. was just chilling out. Room US lost. Vander confused. He would just have stars dislike came to visit and Baltimore, and they be at his house in the it just turned into a house party I it was it was crazy like Morris Chestnut was there one time Gabrielle Union over there but that's what that's what it was. He was the guy that would kinda rally us to go do stuff. In the locker room he was always talking and he lost thirteen last one thing people didn't realize he liked punt block like he wanted to be on special teams like he made the pro bowl that second year because of special teams. So that was that was his thing. He loved it like, of course, once you get to good look, we're not wasting you on. That first three years he loved that to a he was in all the meetings he was talking to Gerry honor who was by. Your actual teams coach Ozan Abou- Ayman Let's do this twist like he was always thinking football. So yeah awesome. Did you bring that up I was looking at your wikipedia page oeste He's like my favorite. Guys get indicted right now for wire fraud. Are you involved Michael? Bennett again no I'm not involved but like off. Former Gopher and Yeah. They did the doctor scam where the doctor calls you hey, man I'll get you a fifty thousand dollar a breathing machine right but I'll cut you a check for forty six thousand. If you say you need one and then he would reach out to the NFL say this Guy Needs A. Machine or some kind of oxygen machine and they'll cut your forty six, thousand dollar cheque bad guy takes the other four to eight dollars for his signature and yet found that come to find out it wasn't a doctor at all. That was just a whole. See those guys are being that you can google it. They're being indicted for wire fraud too bad. Yeah. Rosy ever been indicted for. Laurie Lambert had. Mind a bit what. Would you want to be a part of? I don't know but. People. Ever think that this is ever going to work out i. mean there's someone whoever the ringleader is this really good scam for you. I mean I i. Look at some of the people in town here have been. You know the Tom petters of the world in I got a big of a couple other ones who are in prison right now and what's that then he hacking hecker and he went through saying I just man I go. What made you think this is going to work. Starting with the burning madoff stone don't you think the answer? Deeper. Right works for a while and you get deeper into it. I know how many had worked for when people cut zero. cavs. Clinton is going six million from doing this. Man Maybe I should have done that you need to machine or not me. Do. Four gay yeah. Have you ever clicked on one of those links rosie whereas like, Hey, here's pictures of Carly Click here. No. No I have not. A really good question. please. AMC theaters plan to open August twentieth. It's going to happen hundred theaters open across the United States and they're gonNA have some cheap tickets, second run movies but when sets ticket. Something tenant though do we know when that's no? Let's see. Movies plans to screen as part of the opening mutants. The New Mutants August, twenty eighth Christopher Nolan's tenant starting September third okay. On the way, we should watch it together. Not Good. No thank you I appreciate the August twenty eighth right yeah. Yeah No. Third. The new mutants from Disneyland September third. Tenant how they're going to monitor your own people were each each theater ten is GonNa be good. It looks wait your no one fan your for Nevada. I'm just a movie. Okay. This movie so much I know I'm gonNA movies by myself. Yeah I love one movies. Q. Four o'clock movie perfect aunts to hang out with I. do like the midnight Thursday once the Shirley like when they've before, they come out or you know the earlier ones especially the avengers. Like I would I would also there right away oh yeah. Looking forward to that opened up game won't be long now man but the wife and kids to bed the movies. And read. Video Games before the movie starts. Sounds like fun. Be Twenty four again, high five Morris Chestnut. Well won't be long guys were a month away from saying Rosie. Who Do you? Think's GONNA. Win this week in Vikings versus panel. I know I know it's such a weird. Make a prediction now by the way? I'm actually. Patrick one. Boy Yeah. It's one month away no preseason games no real exposure. We're GONNA have a lot of preseason of the WE'RE GONNA. Try to do as much as we can radio station obviously building up the Vikings what's happening out of TCI as they kind of get full board, full contact practices and. and Go from there but it is definitely everything is operatives in include the NFL because it's going to go literally one month from today, the Vikings will be opening up against the packers. Abe Rianne. Yes. Hi. Ron. Speaking of Air Rogers though. How come men like Aaron Rodgers don't get like. The label like Halle Berry got like when all these guys kept breaking up with Halle Berry he's Lost Olivia Munn now Dan Patrick at what point are we gonNA say? He's damaged like something's wrong with. The Jennifer Aniston of dudes. Just. No. She I don't care who breaks up with her she's yeah. No. He's just he's damaged some like there's gotta be something wrong. Well. It's pluses relationship with his family. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe everybody hates like I've always heard that like if a guy doesn't like his mom beware when you date him. Well Aaron hates everybody everybody hates him especially the people listening right now in Oakland Wisconsin. Everybody's MOM's. Especially when the real estate. This was tomorrow at Eight fifteen in for next power back tomorrow five, thirty, nine.

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Its Good To Be A Pens Fan

"All right Air Check sound check mic check. Come correct air checks. Sound Checks Bob Bob. Bye-bye bath Elliot before we do anything on podcast. Today our thoughts and all of our attentions still very much with Jabot Miester of the Saint Louis Blues his friends and his family the outpouring last night indicated what type of individual J BOHM. Easter is. And how much support and love he has around the NHL and the entire hockey community information as we know is scarce. But I know you had a couple of thoughts on what we saw Tuesday night in Anaheim. Saint Louis Game. Everybody obviously was rattled. The players were shocked The people watching and the press box were shocked. Fans were shocked. Other teams were shocked. First of all a guy from a media point of view who I think deserves a lot of credit is Darren Pang. Yes if you were watching the Saint Louis Broadcast. He goes to the area beside the dressing room. Where I guess they do their walk off interviews and they throw him Bernie Federico in the studio area would it? Would you know at this point? This is the official statement from the National Hockey League due to the medical emergency involving a blues. Defense Jay-paul Miester. Tonight's game has been postponed and it will be made up at a later date. So that's official from the national hockey from the Saint Louis Blues I think Bob Murray and his staff to serve a lot of credit for up quickly. They were on the phone. Obviously with With Commissioner Gary Bettman with Colin Campbell and Doug Armstrong also on that phone. Call to make sure that this is done the right way. And there's plenty of concern From Bob Murray the general manager of the Anaheim ducks and their coaches. Well so there is no way that this game was going to go on The you can totally understand why and Darren is nearly crying. You know. He took a saggy started talking and he took a second compose himself and his viewer. You're sitting there and you're saying will boys. Is HE GONNA be able to hold it together and he did and he was fantastic is everybody would think because Darren is a fantastic broadcaster. And then I'm watching the Edmonton game. Edmonton Chicago is gene. Principe updates the audience to what happened and you can tell. The gene is unsure and doesn't know what to say so imagine that whole feeling going around the sport and I've seen a lot of tweets about it. I put at the top of the blog. A can't be said enough. About how good these staffs are the Anaheim. Trainers the Saint Louis trainers the Anaheim. Emt's the Anaheim doctors at handling this. Now you know when you go back to yeary Fisher. The League I think was obviously shaken by that and said we have to make sure our protocols are good and you take a look at unfortunately. How often this has happened in the past few years? There's Yeary Fisher. There's rich There's Craig Cunningham there's Tyson tynan other goaltender from the Antero Hockey League. I think one of the things people are gonNA start wondering is. Is there a reason that this has happened so often? But the response time the team work. It's incredible someone was saying to me last night. The governor of H. L. team. He said that the thing that made him feel best about it. Is that if this happens to you now at a hockey rink. Nhl Game or we've seen now eight and oh l. The protocols that have been put in place give you a chance. And I think that's a fantastic legacy and one of the things that's happened is and this happened after the Fisher incident is that the league said. The doctors have to have a clear path. The bench they cannot be in a position where you know they have to take an elevator. Or there's a door locked and I think that's such a huge huge part of it and all the Best Djabel Miester You know I hope. He's well all the best to was dad. Who was on the DADS trip and I hope the family as well but you know I. I think it's just an incredible thing that the various medical people involved in all of this have learned the proper protocols in the proper teamwork to make sure that someone who's in distress gets incredible care and I think that's that's impressive. We half of all of us here. Wishing J Bohm Easter a very speedy recovery and before begin Many of you listening to the podcast probably play hawk. Your spend a lot of time at rinks. whichever rank you go to if it's a new rink make sure you find out where exactly the paddles are. You never know. Three thoughts. Podcast brought to you by. Gmc Sierra locks. Don't like coming up on February. Twenty four th with Jim. Rutherford wasting no time acquiring Jason Succor from the Minnesota Wild for Alex Scalps Kenya. Young Defensive Prospecting Kaelin Addison and a conditional first round pick really fit with Crosby and playing with them as we'll see we'll find out but he can skate. He can make plays we see only points. He has Good pickup I think also at the same time for the penguins although they did give up quite a bit. This draft year is Super Deep Twentieth. So you know that first round pick could mean a lot in the future. But I guess Jim Rutherford goes. You know we're good We wanted sucker for a while and they went Elliott to the best of your knowledge. How many times has Jason Sucker been traded and you know what I mean? There's at least two previous ones that we know was of course. Pittsburgh in the Phil. Kessel deal at one was Calgary last year at the deadline. that was a first rounder. And Michael for leak I believe and now finally it's done and You know obviously he's excited. I mean do you remember this? This is something you'll remember in the eighties. Charlie Simmer was put on waivers and he got claimed by the Pittsburgh Penguins and he got to play with Merrill lemieux and the Hockey News had an editorial cartoon. Where like there's another plane? He was on the king's beforehand. And there's another player who's like crying and someone offscreen is telling them. Don't worry we'll put you on waivers too so you can play with your similar wins. The lottery must feel like he won the lottery. You know I think that guy obviously love being a member of the Minnesota Wild is families. There you know he he won. Big Charitable Wards. Aaron sick men who is the media relations Guru for the wild made sure to thank Zuqar publicly for everything he'd done in the community and you know now you go and you line up with Sidney crosby. I mean it's a huge thing for them. No question about it and I spoke to her last year at the at the allstate not the All Star game but the NHL Awards Vegas and you could tell he was tired. Sure you know. He was really tired of rumors and he wanted to go away. And even though on July first partial no-trade kicked in. I think he knew that this wasn't ending and I think that there's a person there who recognizes that. He's glad it's all over. He's going to be somewhere and he's glad to be there so the deal goes down a couple of days ago and I get a text from a buddy of mine and it just reads like this man. That must be fun to be a Pittsburgh Penguins Fan. We've talked about this before Elliott right. Now you're Pittsburgh Penguins Fan. You Have Sidney. Crosby have any Malkin your mother for recognizes that every year. He says we're going for it. Were turning her. Amateur Scouts into the Maytag Repairman. Don't really need you on the Friday night. Guys take the night off. Have a Nice supper. We'll see on Saturday around two through seven. Alex called Kenya Killing Addison. Any first round draft pick go back to the Minnesota wild your thoughts on the entire deal. Well I don't think it's a huge price for Pittsburgh to pay but I think it's a good price for Minnesota to get if you kind of understand what I'm talking about here like if you're Minnesota you don't have a prospect like Addison Group. They're one of the oldest teams in the NHL. They've got a lot of thirty year old guys in. Addison has a chance to be an impact player on the power play. Especially yes you know. Garin said he's not going to Russia. He'll go to the H. L. he'll get some seasoning. They're good place to learn and get ready and play will determine how long it takes and a first rounder is a lottery Chit yes. It's a a late pick for Pittsburgh but if you're Minnesota you need these lottery tickets now I have a friend. Who's a big orders fan? And and he was saying to me like why don't the oilers have the same attitude like they should be going for it with mcdavid and dry seidel every year and I do think they're gonna get to a place where they start to think about it that way but I don't look at Pittsburgh and Edmonton Insa- I the Pittsburgh Ozzy Ready to win? I don't think Edmonton's ready to win yet. I think they're getting better. I think they're starting to put their group together but I don't look at them as I'm gambling with my first rounder. Don't even know they're going to make the playoffs yet. I'm not gambling with my first rounders like Edmonton like Pittsburgh does AF- on the oilers. But I totally understand why the Pittsburgh Penguins do business the way they do. It does have to be fun to be a penguins fan right now like you know you know the bill is coming but the party still going. No-one saying last call. The lights are getting turned down at all. You know the bill is coming at some point. But we're still years away from it. And Rutherford just keeps going for it and draft picks be damned and prospects be damned like one day. Pittsburgh's going to be a really bad hockey team. Then we can all see that coming somewhere down the road and then they'll win the lottery another generation of cross. Whomever that kid right now. Is You know probably nine years old up on Sunday evening. The ranch is again the pain but you know the thing is too is that I remember last year. When Pittsburgh was going around this people were talking to them. Addison like someone predicted to me. I forgot this until now a year and a half ago that Addison would be. Addison was going to be gone for whoever they decided they were gonNA need and the next one. And you know these players better than I do. The next one's GONNA be pooling. Mueller one like Pittsburgh going to keep him or his next year is he. The guy that gets traded for them to try and win another COP. So what you're saying is if you're a young athlete right now and you get selected by the Pittsburgh Penguins go up on the stage. Don't put on the Jersey sheep the Jersey as a souvenir because you might not need it later. is this. Bill Guarantees Way of waving the flag. No I don't think so number one someone point out to me. Moving soccer opens up a spot for Capris off who they believe is next year. Also you know you heard his quote. I think Sarah McLaughlin was the one who wrote it about. Oh absolutely I can promise you this. If there is quit there will be more trades. I wholeheartedly expect this team to compete for a playoff spot. Right and if there's any signs of anybody taking their foot off the gas that will be an an indication solemn against Vegas the other night they didn't quiz and I do think they're younger players in Minnesota. Who felt whether intentional or not? They were blocked by some of those veterans. And that's a message to Lukanen to Jordan Greenway to Ryan Denardo. Who'd been a healthy scratch and saying okay? No more excuses he's gone. There's a spot here for now until the end of the season and they're still playing meaningful games like I look at the West. The they're starting to be some separation there like like Nash. For the week it goes in the play offs and I know they've got games in hand but they are terrible week. Is We recorded this on Wednesday afternoon. The two teams are out of the playoffs. I could see making it our winnipeg in Minnesota. 'cause I just believe that and I think the math isn't with Minnesota but they're playing hard so he's saying to those guys like look at Kevin Fiala in Minnesota Cambridge Toronto earlier this year Kevin Fiala was a healthy scratch. He could have been gone at any time. I think the best thing that Garin has done this year so far show patients. He could have made a lot of moves. He didn't and now Fiallos on a tear in his last five games so I think what he's saying to the canons. The greenway as the does is. This guy was on his Kieser. He was walking in his suit. Look what he's doing about it. What are you GONNA do? Do you put Joel. Eriksson Eck in that category as well probably would I just didn't hear his name specifically guy was asking around like who who benefits and I didn't hear Erickson the next name so you know I could be wrong on that. I missed it. I just didn't hear it specifically. Do we read anything into the FACT THAT BILL. Garin win to his old team for the big deal. I did ask him about that. Because I spoke to ca I remember Kevin Lowe one of his first drafts? You know there was something going on with the Rangers. I honestly don't remember if this particular deal he made or not but we talked about it later like years later we talked about it like the whole thing about Glenn say there goes to New York Edmonton and now you gotta make deals with them And what that was like and he I know he's your mentor. But he's also a wolf in sheep's clothing. You know are you. Do you want to do that? And I ask Aaron about that. And he said if there's anybody I think is going to treat me fairly. It's GonNa be Jim Rutherford. Because that's his whole mentality and philosophy. See Bill Garin as we all know is a new general manager. So everything he does. We're going to try to read way too much into it as we try to get a sense of where this general manager is with this team and we know there's a couple of players you. Menchaca pries off a couple of players on the horizon for this squad Addison's a a longer term projects. But do you get a sense of what Garin wants to do with this team and can the Sucker deal wink in any direction because the obvious one is. Why do you let go of this guy? He's one of their better players. He's still has term. Their backs aren't up against the wall. To do anything. Why I just think it's because they had to open up space. Think the Minnesota has to get younger. You know I remember two years ago when they were in the plaza wind up paying. They lost that series in the first round. We were putting up boards of all the guys who are over thirty and then last year. Your I still saw that same board. And the added Carello and they added a girl and then this year. I saw that same board in this league. You can't have that anymore. He could do more like the focus here is because I do think. Toronto's interested in him and Addison's our HR defenseman is good on the power. Play right those always helped to right. It's a good reason like the focus is on like because I think Toronto's interested or I know I'm pretty sure I know trials interested like I heard these got a lot for Brodine and he wouldn't talk about those guys or by a here. There's a lot of interest in Brodine. Deans one of those guys doesn't say a lot. And you can play for fifteen years. Because he's in good shape and he's just a really solid player you know. First of all would guarantee taught everybody is. He's patient he's not he's not out here who me new. Gm and E- You I'm treating you like. He's he's not that Guy. He's willing to be patient. He's made it clear unless it's like a top center or a good senator plus don't even come at them with Dombi Breen like again. He wouldn't talk about these guys. I heard there's a few teams Felino too but some guys have told me they don't get the sense. Fully you know is going anywhere if a sense of what can happen with Mikko. Koivu as you're sort of run down the future of the Minnesota wild through there are some indications and some whispers that this might be it Boudreau Told me this year when I asked him that. Sacrifice lately was thirty. Nine thinks Miko wants to play until he's thirty nine the alternate did you see the other night. Meco KOIVU HAS TO DEAL WITH RYAN. Riess all game and those players in Minnesota. They started getting really mad. It says to me that Koivu wants to play. I heard you want to play. Boudreau kind of hinted I bet you. That's an after the season discussion. Have you watched? Koivu play much this year as much as I've watched Minnesota which is less than most teams but at the same to soda. I'm biased because I like me go. I'm looking at him with I'm looking at him with is that I want him to do well but he's a step slower. He's not that same McCoy voice to include in the selke trophy conversation every year. I want him to be better than he actually is. So my eyes are very biased. When I watch Mika Cueva because I like the player alive the see. I wonder if it comes down to. They're looking for center. Helped they get it. While the greatest player in franchise history. When you think Minnesota are you gathering averick okay? I'm with you. I think he's the best player they ever had. And I would say suitors on that list and Coy on that list but when you take a look at his status in the city he's the most important guy right So you treat him properly and you sit down together and you figured out like you know who's going through this right now is. Is the Rangers with Lundquist? You know everybody's talking about what Lundquist was going to do. I think this year I think the rangers most likely punt it. They sit down. You know if anyone calls them about Lundquist they take it to Henrik and say are you interested. I think that's kind of what happens. If it does occur but I think at the end of the season they sit down. They have a conversation about how they WANNA handle this. I'm not convinced they they really WanNa Trade Jordan of your give their socks blown off. Let's do rangers and you got there. a couple of things here and we'll get to Chris Kreider and a couple of seconds. I'm with you on this idea that the rangers kicked this one into the summer and sort of kick the in the summer and go to Henrik Lundqvist and say okay. You're holding the hot hand. What do you WanNa do you tell us a really? We can all see where this thing is headed with the New York Rangers. And and I understand that. It's only been a handful of games of man. The audit so far is overwhelming with eager shift organ and his performance. Now I always come shy of saying I don't know anything about a goaltender until I see him for a hundred games and I see that about your give and I should say that about this Jerkin but I don't 'cause I can't remember a goaltender coming in like this and having this type of impact on his team where every time he starts. It's a story. Like going into the game against Winnipeg was on Tuesday. That's the return of Jacob Trooper to Winnipeg and you could actually make an outside of the Winnipeg market. You could make the argument. The bigger story was we get the C. Just York and again the goalie phenomenon. We know this is going. How can you put that in Lundquist Lap? And say what do you WANNA do? Because what if he says? I want to play what I would do is if if I was the GM of the Rangers. And I had this problem at the end of next year I would say Henrik. Is there anywhere you WANNA go? Let's let's say you're Jeff Gordon Henrik Lundqvist. Okay Henry. We have these two young goalies. I'm throwing myself at your mercy. You're one of the greatest rangers ever. You'RE GONNA have a job with organization when you retire for as long as you want and your numbers going up in the rafters but we need some help here right now. How can we make this work? Is there anywhere you'd WanNa play. I only wanted to play in New York. My heart is year. I've played here my whole career. I've been through this rebuild. I don't WanNa go anywhere and I WANNA play okay. I understand that. I can't make this any more clearer. More honest I hope you understand the way. I'm trying to tell you this. We need an alternative by. This is what we're going to do. You're going to go away for a month. Take some time take a month. Think about it. We can communicate through agents. We can communicate yourself. Whatever you're more comfortable with but we need another solution I promise you. Nothing's getting leaked. What answers the same in a month? Let's talk about it in a month. If it was me. I give you my standard. We could all be hit by buses and a month line but I would say you know Henrik. Let's let's see how you feel like I. I think everybody understands everybody's position here. Okay I can understand. Hendrick lundquist saying no I want. I WANNA fulfill this contract. I feel like I can still play. I love it here. I define myself as a New York. Rangers goaltender I WanNa go anywhere so you WANNA go. You WanNA fast forward to a month. Okay fast forward okay. So it's a month same as last month short. You know what I would say is this I. I'd say okay then I'm going to give you our position in K. As far as I see it we have several different options and I haven't counted them in advance. Everyone saw his number one. We come back next year with all three goals. We could do that. We don't really want to do that. I just don't like this where someone doesn't get full practices in. Someone doesn't dress. It's not what we want number two. We are going to continue to have your you have on the market. We want to see what his marketplace is. And maybe we get something. That convinces us to change our minds. Let's step away from this conversation really quickly because I think that in the Rangers Mind Their Batteries. Yagi of interest. Jerkin maybe but and if you keep the three and you're gonNA keep your keep him on the market and all of a sudden you're gonNA lose two goaltenders because Henry skinner run out of contract and you're GONNA be gone right gone from three to one like that but I I get all that like I I I understand all that Jeff but I think you at least consider like the rings have already done at once. They've listened on Gore gave on at once so they could still do it again and you never know who could think. They're losing a seat at the goaltender table or they lose in the play offs or something happens and they just decide. This guy's got to be our guy so that's number two and number three. Henrik like we might have to buy out after everything done for this organization. I would say look. This is the way we're going to do this. We're going to say it's our decision you wanted to play. We are going to hammer ourselves on the way out. Just like we wrote that great ladder about why we're doing the rebuilding the tear down. We're GONNA send out a letter and we're going to say this is our decision. We WanNA keep these two young goalies very painful. We don't want to do it. We understand that you're mad. We hope in the future. You'll understand the way we see it and you're still always going to have a job here but we have to do. This is how you want to end our relationship after I had the nerve to take you to the Stanley Cup and I had the nerve to sit through a rebuilt while you traded all my friends you remember the tears I had in my eyes when you move mats Zuccarello to Dallas member high on the brave face remember high wind in their remember how I was the best goaltender of the decade. This is how you want to break up. Yeah it sucks I would say to you and I would say I will take anybody who kicks the crap out of US publicly. I'm going to eat it. I wish I didn't have to do it this way. But it's a possibility but if you WANNA retire or suddenly develop a nagging hip injury and you go on L. TR which. I can't say for the record because I get fined. If you're willing to work with us to find a solution will find a solution Henry. Gay couldn't help but notice the last time he took off your protector. You had a rash on your chest. They're not sure what that was. All about you might WANNA get. That checked out would hate to see that. Develop into a hold on one second. Here's the here. So Henrik. Next year is under contract for eight point. Five million dollar cap it. It's a five point five million dollar contract and if you WANNA go on. We can do that if you're willing to retire will sign you to a ten year ambassador. Deal at five hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. Can you imagine you having a Gel? Here's me says your cup. Of course you can gambling here. Of course you could say you get a ten year deal to be Andrew embassador five hundred and fifty thousand dollars a season. I think everybody knows what the score is Rangers fans you. I think the Rangers Mc Lundquist does as well which is what makes this. Perhaps the most interesting story of the summer. All I really hate you already jeff because I know these people are going to tweet at me. Like you're a heartless jerk off. Look at what you made me do. Okay I think I think at the end of the day of you. Explain it right and say we're GONNA take all the blame for this and we're going to sort this out you're gonNA find a way. Yeah I I just believe it. I think all you have to do is you you have to approach improperly and you have to say that. Henry everybody's going to understand that this is our decision. Were making you do this and we just need help here tell you something to. Kreider said at the All Star game that lunch is still as competitive as ever. Of course we didn't get that sense in Chicago when we talk to them way. I wonder if I mean if you're GONNA have a conversation of that nature. Why do you wait to the summer like? Shouldn't there be some indication to the big. I'm always concerned about giving someone a chance to say goodbye. One of the things that have always hated about our industries. We never give people a chance to say goodbye. Broadcaster's radio more so than television radio has always been the main corporate is one day you're vanish Yup and your names off the promos and you're not spoken of again very seldom. Does anyone a chance to sign off so write their own. Goodbye I think was someone like Lundquist. Don't you need to give them a chance to say goodbye? One last time on the garden. So maybe you don't punt that conversation into the summer. Maybe have that conversation now and you wink wink. So people to indicate that this is Henrik Lundqvist last handful of games like you wrote about the citizens and how originally you know what? I'd like the fact that you know it's not ending in Vancouver then with greater perspective. You know what that shows an appreciation. What type of appreciation those players had around the league now. I'm not saying this needs to be at any pot. Fan Farewell Tour where every rank you went any got presence and flowers and it became an entire tour throughout the entire season. But something no. If that's the way you're going to go with So maybe off season. If you're gonNA break up with me just do it now Elliott. Just do it now. What's the line? Welcome to dump spill population. You all right more on. The Rangers have mentioned Kreider. What's going on there too big goals? Big Jesuit good a tough one for the jets. Put it this way I think right now. It's more than they want to pay for. Kreider cowboys. Cowboys are term wise I would probably cap wise so I think that you know they have to wait to see if anything changes but they're definitely calling out there to find out what the market is. It's like they're doing both at the same time. I think that happens a lot. You have Way The skating more likely trade. But I don't know that for sure is one of the to a head fake and we're going the other way I I would say more likely trade but I'm not sure they would want to put a number on it. You know there was a lot. We just mentioned the Rangers play in the Winnipeg jets on Tuesday night. There was a lot of people. Thought that There was a head fake coming from the coach and that he was saying. All the right things about Winnipeg and then at the end of it a team like Seattle had their first coach. Pommery signs the extension. Well I do think he was on Seattle's Raider I said it like. I do think that if he had been available that he was going to be a good contender to be the first coach of the future cracking Why do you do this but as I got to tell you? It took longer than I thought why like. I always wonder about hold up. I think there was a little bit of a battle. There you know it was. I was talking about this with Someone yesterday about negotiations and how personal they can get and things like that and someone said to me. I know you took your negotiation very personally and I said yeah I I I did but I don't know too many negotiations. That aren't personal. Like how many negotiations are there? Really I think the jets wanted them but I think that there were some some things that he battled them over. I don't know specifics but I heard it was a challenge in the best negotiation probably comes when both sides sit there and say. I didn't get everything I wanted right so I I think there was a little bit of that. And it's been said before to the only real leverage you have in negotiation is if you have the ability to walk away and it sounds like Paul Maurice was going to walk away and let his contract expire. You had leverage does there would have been interest and probably not just from Seattle. Like I'll tell you this is a good conversation that we're about to have here. At least I like to think it is. Sometimes I'll go into like a market and travel and I do miss traveling. I don't get to go on the road enough. I I love to go like you know what I really think Jeff. I would have thought about it. We're doing this pod before the city in retirement ceremony. It's going to be released after. I think we should have been there. The only person I blame myself for not fighting for an earlier no that that should have been a night where we were on site in Vancouver and somebody made a a fair point to me said where it. While you weren't in Calgary when again lescot retired and my response to that is that was on a Saturday night. I think Saturday nights are different. Saturday night is the studio control night on the Wednesday. Our opening game was Montreal Boston. We should have hosted everything from Vancouver but anyway I miss being in the markets because I like getting a pulse of what the market feels. And you know I'm a Maurice Guy of talked out my real lot this year Imerese true. There is a right in the blog today and this person came up to me when I was there and he said you know I disagree with you. On Murray's he says a lot of us is my group in Winnipeg. We disagree on Maurice. Too and we had a really good conversation about it and I think when you're in the city or your in the market or your really a big fan of the team you see the warts or the beauty to a much greater degree than we do outside. I cannot be connected to the jets like your average Winnipeg or Manitoba N- or jets fan. Is I just don't have the time to devote to the team that that fan does and I recognize that and I think there's a lot of fans there who look at it and say you know we're not that good. Were battling for the playoffs. The team isn't that good and Marie doesn't coach a great system to me. The most important thing a coach does is they. Can they get guys to play for them? This is a younger league than ever. The players have more power than they've ever had like. We never thought Mike Babcock was going to go out the way he went out but it happened because the players have the power. Okay I look at that team. This year they show up to camp cal. Connor still not sign. Patrick Line is still not signed. Dustin Buffalo in announces. He's not playing the day before. Like your team is ravaged. It would have been so easy to be negative. It's a disaster. We should be Stanley Cup. Contender we're going to suck this year. I think with a coach. Diet what he did in that moment is Hey. I'm not putting up with all this negative BS. Were GonNA find a way to make this work? Players deserve the most credit heloc number one. The other guys on down rank them how you WanNa but what. The coach does is set the tone if the coach is negative. The players are negative coaches panicky. The players are panicky. He said we are setting the right tone. And those guys bought in and to me this year in Winnipeg with everything that went on that is an extension worthy performance. And I disagree and I won't hear an argument from anyone against it. He's the one thing that impressed me Abo- Palmer's in Winnipeg and this year is exemplary and they make the playoffs. This is going to put Paul Maurice in the conversation for coach of the year. We all know that for the longest time. What did we say about Winnipeg? Here's their undoing. They can't get to save and they can't stay out of the box can't get to save. Can't stay out of the box and it's the most undisciplined team in the NHL. All the good that they do they undo right away because it's not a disciplined team. Now the coach can do one of two things he can yell and scream with the team about it or you can do something to remember what he did brought in referees training yes of course he brought in referees. A training camp said. I'm going to show you what camp. What's the penalty and what's not a penalty and here's what we're making mistakes. You don't think those guys appreciated that is sort is getting screamed at and broken sticks and big show in front of the median throwing twigs up into the stands enough of these bad penalties call brings in referees goodwill that is it's different yes attention. I it's like we're trying something different here. I think that works with the players. It's a great point. Jeff you've made on the podcast and it will be my last since Darn L. Nurse and his new two year contract extension. We said that the Darnell nurse contract would be an audit on how can Holland is going to handle this oilers team. Your thoughts on the nurse deal. This was going to be a longer term deal if they could a worked it out. You know there's some people wondering okay you walk them right to free agency. Who Does that? I think you only do that. If you're really confident the player wants to be there or you don't want the player after two years and you'd think some young defensemen will graduate to that spot of engine. I don't I don't believe they think that necessarily about nurse I so. The athletic agents Thing this week and one of the things they talked about was the improving opinion of Edmonton that usually Edmonton was a team that everybody refused to go to but all of a sudden now because of dry seidel and mcdavid people are more willing to go there. I think to some degree. That's true but I generally believe it still harder than most other places. Darnell nurse wants to be an oiler. He wants to be no other. He's tight with mcdavid. They have a great relationship. E- watch him play like you can't fake that kind of enthusiasm you know with all the young players. You're hoping that you have something good with Darnell nurse you know that you have something good and maybe in two years if everybody gets hit by buses and you want to change it you can but i. I think that everybody goes into this with the best of intentions. If he wanted to be there he could go to arbitration and let the arbitrator sort this out and then two years ago and two years gone We do have the hustle a little bit here. Connor mcdavid and the quad issue two to three weeks Jones. The way Colin approaches dead wine like we talked at the beginning. I think he's still sees. There's a long-term playwright and hey you know like that team sent him a message. They won I know. The blackhawks aren't exactly world leaders. And not the two thousand fifteen blackhawks anymore but they won and You Know Yamamoto continues to play. Well Dry Seidel. I'll tell you this one of the more interesting things is what drives sidled deserves to be a hard archer. He'd looked like it on Tuesday. My God like all you want right is like him to say all right hop on the Leon Boat. Everyone the aircraft carriers plan out and he did you know that people are like there's a conspiracy here. It's what this says to me. Is You look at everything. The injury last summer the way. It was treated the documentary. What we know now. Connor mcdavid people are in charge of his medical. And that's why he went home if there's anything that they're not sure about. Its that Mark Lindsay Gary Roberts Group? They're taking over and I think the others are just going to have to live with that is Edmonton final boat. That can Holland was going to pick that fight. You're not going to pick that fight but for a lot of other players there would be. We've seen this before with teams. No these are our guys now. My new we've seen some teams false start players before and their staff gets dismissed over it. And I'm with you. If it's a player like Connor mcdavid we know there is no such thing as equality. Some people are more equal than others. Exactly animal farm by the way. That is my favorite all-time book. Animal Farm is and and when I was in grade seven or eight and I saw the movie like the original movie that stuck with me forever I always think about. I think the end of the movie. The pigs walking on two legs that has always studying may confederacy of dunces. John Kennedy toole. Everybody's got posthumously. One appeals we're talking Henrik and Daniel. The city's next on three one thoughts the podcast The is ready to do this. Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen. Boys and girls hockey fans around the world. We welcome you to this historic events historic because in a short while we're going to raise two banners as one from that first training camp in Stockholm in two thousand two that emotional farewell home game a couple of aprils ago. And Trust me. I will go to my grave kicking myself for not realizing that the winning goal was scored at twenty to thirty three of the third period. But through all those years it's been my distinct honor privileged to have been a part of chronicalling every step of Daniel Hendrickson journey with your bank. Oover canucks own front of all of our is. We've seen boys become men. Men Become leaders and leaders become legends and its greatest. They were on the ice with their creativity their innovation. They're courageous west to play the game. They're away Daniel and Henrik are even better people off the ice and that to me speaks volumes. Okay Elliott as we record this pipe. It is twenty two four eastern. And we've got a couple of games to do tonight for Scotiabank Wednesday night hockey. We have the Boston Bruins and the Montreal Canadians. That should be good And a little bit later on our late game ten thirty eastern the puck drops between the Vancouver canucks and the Chicago Blackhawks. Before that twenty two and thirty three go to the rafters when I say sedans when I say Henrik and Daniel or maybe even when I just say the twins what are you. There's a few stories Christine Simpson. I totally forgot about the Promo. We did with the twins so she put it out on twitter and I re tweeted it and I think there were two I tape that day one was with Christina and the twins and the others with Tyler Sagan and the reason that I remember the Sagan one more is because I had to arm wrestle with him and he actually pretended for a couple of minutes I was holding him to at least a draw so I kind of remember that one better. Oh I remember that doughty growing beards. I forgot about all those ordered. I totally forgot about all those two. Okay so I kept the jackets that they wore. They wore to blue jackets. Wanted Twenty two one of thirty three on them ninety Dany One and then one day it was gone. I think I have that too. I'm pretty sure I have the one if I have it I'll give it to you. Done the twenty to thirty three I had and in their last year and I think you know why one point in time the candidate Toronto. Before they announced they were retiring. And I have never asked an athlete for an autograph for anyone I covered for an autograph never. I don't believe it's right and I never have never as a professional or as a kid you never asked knows a kid. Okay I have some all right but as a professional like I've seen people do it and I don't. I don't pass judgement on that. I think everybody can make their own rules. I just don't believe it's it's right for me. So when they came to trial and the head announced yet I debated bringing those down and asking the connects to have them do it for me. 'cause I just always liked the way they carry themselves. I always tried to be an illicit people. Listen to this. And they're going to be like you're a complete idiot like I always tried to be like understated and let my work speak for itself and I know I've failed miserably on both counts but I like the way they carry themselves. I remembered when they lost. And how painful that loss was and how they stood in the room. They answered every question and like they put up with abuse Physical on the ice. I thought coming out this week and telling pederson. That's the way he's just going to have to live with that. You have to get used to it. I thought it was really it was them and it was great advice. But I didn't do it like Jeff. I just didn't think it was the right thing to do like you don't ask people for autographs. But that's the closest I ever tame to doing. It was them on the ice. What do you think of for me? It was these two guys playing in an era where the game is north south. They were the guys going East West. Well I think that that's one thing I remember the first time I ever saw them in person. I remember thinking how much of their game is so hard to appreciate on television. I think the subtleties of their game did not always come across on TV and watching them. You know pass back and forth with each other and how to handle that and then later team started to adjust by putting a person inbetween them like instead of covering them man to man no they put someone in between them look for them and get in the middle and you know it's it was a unique way defend because they were unique players. I am I remember was burkey. That draft was in Boston in ninety nine hundred eighty nine. When Burke walked in on the floor that morning there were reporters. They went Adam. They wanted to know. Did you pull it off? I guess people knew that he had been working on it the night before. And I didn't like I I will confess I wasn't as in then and I didn't have the contacts then. I saw two or three people running forum and I was like okay. There's gotta be a reason here. It's going to do it. And he kind of had this little the that Burke smirk and that's when you knew that he was going to do it he had done and You know I I've trashed respect for those guys. They were as I always like to say the most interesting boring people I've ever met. They would probably eleanor misconduct a compliment. Hundred percent I totally agree what they did on the ice was so next level for that era like Elliott. Every time you see a high tip in the game right now what do you think of? The city's up like that to me is going to be their legacy. Anyone sets up behind the net. You think Gretzky There's going to be the lovie spot forever and we're going to call it the lovie spot when I see high tip sittings. It'll always be that way for me until I hit the crematorium that's it high-tech cities. I would just like to say one thing that. For the first time I ever looked at a picture and I knew which one was which and I'm proud to say that on the day they are getting their numbers retired. I finally realized they always said to me. Daniels got the interface. But you would see then phase. All Daniels is thinner and you would see them apart. And you couldn't figure it out and I just remember when they got the King Clancy Award in Vegas a couple years ago with the awards. I ran into one of them with their wife at the front desk. I said Hi and I didn't. I'm so sorry I I just. I still don't know and Dan was Daniel and he has that please. I felt so awful. The most interesting boring people in the history of the NHL Flaubert be regular and orderly in your life so that you may be violent and original in your work. Taking us out is a Toronto based band. 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29: Candid Coaches Conversations pt 4: Rule Changes

Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

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29: Candid Coaches Conversations pt 4: Rule Changes

"Welcome to another episode of candid coaches conversations This week we have another group of highly. Touted assistant coaches guys that we brought together a couple of so called journalists including myself. I guess but we have robbed author as usual. He will actually moved in this podcast. Thank you will not look like a statue and we have. Cbs matt norlander and the topic. This week we'll be rules and Rule changes rule proposals. You'll hear a lot of these guys. Talk candidly what. they like. What they don't like whether it's on the court or hopefully some of the rules off the court as well as the last few weeks we've tried to change it up topic wise this week. We'll talk about rules with some of the recommendations that are out there you know. The the rule oversight panel's going to vote on this early. June norrland is probably got some more info on this but the big launch are obviously whether they go to six fouls. That's a big one probably not going to happen. Technicals for flopping no warnings anymore. I think i don't know live stats. I guess you're gonna be able to use some equipment Potentially on the bench. If the league's approve it it's kind of an experimental rule where you can what you can download previously downloaded and live stats during gains. Let let's start norlander. What am i forgetting. Am i forgetting anything else. It's of relevance team. Timeouts will replace media time outs which is definitely a baseball but i think is actually really good for the consumer it will make it has the potential to have be three to five to seven minutes shorter overall and then shot clocks will if the school wants to it can be like an mba shot clock show tenths of a second on the shot clock for the entirety of the game. That will be on a school by school basis but yes flopping can ballots cetera et cetera. The only thing that will be experimented in the nit next year will be the sixth foul rule. Which is obviously the most interesting one. Everything else If it gets passed by by prop will be implemented immediately for next season right. So i'm going to start with cody. Cody came from the nba. And i think obviously it's we know it's a different game but but you dealt with six files and now you've been in college for a couple years. How do you feel about college basketball from from five to six. I mean to me. The big key is that there's an additional eight minutes right at the professional level. So the need for those additional fouls is there otherwise you would see star players fouling out early in games. And you can't have that. I think that the big thing that from my experience and again it's only two years and you guys have been killing it doing it for years and years and years you can tell i'm insane but just as an outsider coming in is there's there's such a bigger pool of teams right at the college level. It's much harder to have consistency from game to game on the officiating side with only thirty teams and only whatever it is however many officials we had in the league. It's a smaller group so a small group to teach the nuances of how to make the calls and what you get is consistency across the board from game the game. That doesn't mean they're going to get everyone right. But my point being charge calls right like rerouting drivers right hand checking it's so inconsistent that one game your best player might have two thousand the first five minutes but the next game. You might do the exact same thing and both of those files go not call right so lack of consistency would be the only thing that leads me to believe in additional foul could be needed but again. We don't have that extra minute. So i really don't see a need for that change. Anybody wanna go to six. Oh hell no so. So for me. Outside of inconsistency why in the world would they put all these stipulations on file. Calls light so safe. You can get you can get a kid has zero files in the first half and you have four thousand secondhand. Well we all know. That's the moment of truth. That's the most intense part of a game and you can get disqualified. That makes no sense. If you go though six go six hundred and relations you know the same thing if you why have you get three and i had get through in the second half. That's fine but if you can't get one file in the first half you get four in the second half. What was the point going to six. And so people forget. I think in the early nineties the biggies and attack i think it was the atlantic sun. They experimented with this all right. So that's became. I guess the rugged big east in foul called nick gangs got extended. Do want that again. I don't mind on the six. I don't mind going to six all right but if you're gonna go to six why have stipulations on. That's all i'm saying. I agree with jonas I mean i grew up in the washington. Dc area at the high school. I live those big east as jonas. Would they had six fouls you watch georgetown and villanova and saint john's playing those. Those teams were bloodbath. Man know. i mean. obviously there was some count on the floor and that but like it was. Survival of the fittest. And that's thought like how. I interpret the game should be played and I just think you know. I think cutting makes a good point too about you know. We're playing eight lots minutes. I just don't see there's any need for for six fouls. I think it should be six vows because your best player when you get to put on the bench for the whole first. Half in so As a disadvantage if the refs not going to be consistent your best sitting on a bench it has six five. You'll be more inclined to leave him in a game until he get three. No three defers after the second app so i think vows protect the best players in the best fares drive the prada so we need the product to be good. The nba got more stars in our game so we need our best players on the court and if you not like behind we only plan. I don't know if. I wanna see the best pair sitting on the bench. I know i don't think it's wack rule. I wish they were blue to six hours and twenty four second shock. The new transfer rule is eight or nine guys in a lot of people will have big rotation unless you got unless you're gonna go platoon anyway. I give you saying by getting you know after your second foul you put on the bench but the same thing that you get your third file in this scenario with no stipulation. I don't know a coach in his right mind. Allow player to get four or five and a half but it does happening right now. You get to some coaches. Let them play naked third bow but they don't get paid allies thirty five. You're not done for the rest of the game. You just let it out got two fouls to get into that. Some coaches over coach. I know when i was in college. Macos that you play in the first avenue three thousand. Because again he don't serve you. Don't believe in playing nineteen you only going to play six and a half maybe said so to six file would keep the better players on the court driving the product because we wanna see the best players. The agree with jason. Because the game is supposed to be about a player's was best for our players was best for a game. And i think when you could protect allow the players have six files ago competing especially you see the you know the numbers in the nba I think you just like jason say you know the product is our our kids and our players necessarily need to protect an an and i think you have a better game well. I like devil's advocate on this one. Because why. I like the idea of going to six vowels for all the reasons that you guys are mentioning but why. Why is there this auto bench with two fouls in the first does exactly right. You don't have a really good point because it was like a study at the nba level talking about foul trouble whether we put guys to the too similar thousand and play the house and mike. The data shows that letting the guy's point the thousand more often than not actually. Don't get that next foul. A player to says you can't we can put first basin out there with two percent frank. Hey don't get your third get stirred next one just as competitive chocolate. But i think it has a lot to do with personnel. You play but that that's a good point. We think we always think the guy's gonna get it. That's the interesting thing very interesting. An mba guys are. Let me guys rock with files. So so it's like yeah like. Hey because you can't have frank at three thousand first half y'all s right so but in the same sense i mean. What if we think that he's gonna get it but maybe maybe we can actually trust them more than we think knows. I have a question for the veteran coaches here. That have been around. You know andre ron among them The biggie stuff gets referenced in how it was a failed experiment thirty years ago but do we think that the modern college game the way it's played the way that it has been changed in a fishy in the weights beneficiary. The past five years remember. We're talking six seven years ago about how you know we needed to clean up the game and make it more. Fluid more cosmetically appealing right. It feels like there has been good gains on that. So is there the potential that with this rule which again will just be done at the nit level just to see how it goes. I think that's actually the right process here but do you believe that. The division one men's basketball is a cleaner game in two thousand and twenty one By small margins major margins margins at all versus what. The biggest was in the late eighties. Early nineties matt here like for me personally out could give help offensively with screen and stuff like an nba. They call they get away with dolphins so screen and a lot more in the college game. I'll post gaza sometimes scared that screens. Because they're scared to out that way. So most faust one of the deepest saw the ball seems so by allowance six. Maybe we could get. Our post is or something better screening. Get those guys scream. More not being having a concern of getting files that way. So that'd be one reason why i think the six made may help you know. Matt i agree with you saying that like i mean i think the officiating has gotten better. We've tried to call the first thousand pant checking out. I think we've improved that. But i you know. I just feel sometimes though especially in the acc. Move on and see. Why tested this. I i just feel like it gets more physical as we get into conference play. You know it really does. And and then it gets it gets corralled back in the nc double a. term 'cause those guys wanted to advance so Because we're seeing the guys night in a night out in the acc. So you know. I do agree. You know because those were bloodbath man. Some of those files were. That's not but it's in early nineties an- and with those teams. I mean it was it. Was it came down to coaching. Came down the Who was filed late. And i mean it was just a blood after those. Those guys was physical and growing up on big ten basketball as a point guard. You kind of what she was getting into. They recruited and other conferences. You use that to their advantage. Negative recruit the big sale. Oh he's going to play slow basketball half or basketball. You know the is going to be fifty four to sixty games like that but it was also through basketball where you got punished with. You went in there and the paint and they made you pay for so Growing up on that style of play. That's all you knew in in now. I think the game is definitely a little software. They they have done a good job of cleaning up but just growing up growing up on those those big ten basketball teams and coaches. Those really good teams. I think I'm with jason is another guy turned to six six files in. My reason is probably a little different. I think human human nature of the beast and you gotta help with human air. I mean everybody on this call as that during the game and said come home and that's a bad call like how many times during the game the you look around you you said that's a bad call so all of us get bad. 'cause lesson when you're on the road in the acc big ten sec human nature of these so when the crowds come back is kinda human nature or the official count getting motion with the crowd and makes calls. I think it takes the pressure. All these bad calls that made jalen held you. Don't care withdrawal. Say or anybody says guy gets to five that bit. Because he don't think he's he he don't think he's going to defend and play hall. He thinks he's going not not go hog. Give up some buckets. Because he's trying to stay in the game so if if it was up to me Jason hard saying the best players only Drives the product s the truest thing. Not her that balance right. I mean it is that balance you want the best in the floor. But you're afraid of the way the game might look if you're giving everybody six files right like especially next year. I think the game's gonna be so ugly at the beginning of next year anyway with all the turnover among rosters and if you added like six files his thank you can be a a train wreck in terms of the quality of play as much as anything All right let's we've gone through that let. Let's go around the room a little bit of like. What's the one rule that you guys would change and it could be. You could have one on the court. You could have one off the court. I wanna hear the one off the court as much as one is going to be more interesting. Chris kreider. Let's start with you. You haven't said anything yet. Been counted just listening. What do you got what rules would you change rule or rules. We're talking about just overall. Ncwa so i. If i had to say one thing. I think all of us you know in our in our positions we being compliant and compliance is always so important and we we try to follow the rules to a t. I know for myself. You know how many texts calls do we make to our compliance department with something comes up. Hey can i do this something that i think you know. We recruit these guys. And we're basketball coaches and you go through the recruiting process. They arrive on your campus. And you want to coach him. And i understand why the rules are what they are. But just the whole time in the countable hours i think sometimes the time that allowed to spend on the court once you reach that number so let's say four hours a week. A guy wants to get extra shots. You wants to work out lots of a film. I just think. I find it as being an internal struggle. Hey go grab go grab a manager. Hey i'll get you on the next go around you know so you wanna follow the rules but at the same time you want to. What's right for the kid. You recruited them trying to help south for me. That's a that's bounce case. What do you got. you haven't spoken you. There is a. I definitely agree. days. There's been saying. I if i were changed related. That'd be six files just off the top of my head but simple standpoint of of the product You don't have coaches old school coaches alike wise in terms of linda. Have these guys. And that's don't be case firefighters because if you looking at it you'll your margin. The various have tallied. More than a opposed. You'll save three thousand second Close game so that's the rule. I'm hoping to change Moving forward in just give these guys a better feel of what a federal level with the six files and playing like that. Because like like see watson is gonna be tired whereas rome of air when a when a referee makes a bad call and it can cost four or five. Now you've got the last four minutes of the game so that's the rollout out with change. Hey i got one for you. Before i let you go on this one How bad is it when you play by games. How the officiating when you play by games against some of these guys at any calls now. She's not they ought to get out of the about low carbs and meet me being. I got as both of a low major school You hope some hope to five thousand helps you in a game. Because you'll play those. Go to the vince. If he happens. Pick valley get a charge call. But i didn't want the game of basketball is wise to grow our. Who else has got to go. One has got something. Maybe a little bit outside the box jason up in here. There's a lot of smart basketball minds on this call goodman not included. I hate the fact that the charge exists. The way that exists in college basketball. I wanna know from you guys. Do you hate it as much as i do. Because there's nothing that. I can't spend more than watson defender slide in underneath somebody going to the rain. Fall down and give roy with a with a charge. Called on it silence. No i lobby great to charge call. I think too much this level that coach taking charges right as a strategy and to me. I think number one is dangerous number two. I think if a guy gets in the air before you get to the spot you should have no shot at getting that call and Honestly it's been it drives me nuts. I mean especially. Go play kelvin. Sampson team those guys are disciplined. So they're low man's there he's given outside the charge circle and he's going down on any contact so to me even whether and that's the problem again that goes back to the inconsistencies from game to game the are triggered to me to the fact that again we've got so many games so many teams. It's just not call equally and so it's really disrupts the game and that's where you're going to the issues like jason was touching on our to your top players attack in the ran and they're not getting that call. It's brutal so i. It's it's a killer i can't stand it. And i also talk about screening andrea mentioned screening. It's another one. I can't stand the illegal screen. Calls are like totally wildly inconsistent. And and i just. I'm not a big fan. But i do think if you if you teach you guys the right way. I think the using charges. I think this is your badge. Heck yeah i agree with that. I know i've ever worked with coach beer That much but prepare for him after they have rule We have to get several charges a again and it you know the times. They beat us in the past At when he was at texas they have five or six charging. What was the difference in the game. So i definitely understand where you guys come from but if you teach it the right way and you consistent in you have a culture where you're doing a practice in that's what you know. Things is definitely a bad. It's a little bit old school to not played for morgan. Moving at the matha high school will end step in and take a charge. You know at the buzzers going off man. I was coming out. You know so i. It's it's kind of ingrained with me. But i i understand what kobe to i. I do think you know one of the rules. That i thought was really gonna pass. I met went through some of them there. But i thought we're going to widen the lane. I thought that would help out a little bit. I didn't think the charge circle. Mike was on the committee rules committee when they put the charge circle in tonight moved back but i really would was hoping that they would have a wider lactic. That would even open it up even a little bit more but absolutely a table that for this year. But yeah it's It's interesting call for for us. Old school guys. Do you guys feel about on ball charges. That's another one that's wildly inconsistent like we're guys sliding and he's actually slight because the nba level. A guy with the ball owns the space. Right if i'm driving and you reroute me. That's a foul on you like even if even if you read in jumped in the way in full doubts you got in my way. I own that space right so like that. I don't know how you guys feel about dollar. That's another one that i mean. There are certain teams. Like jerry said man i mean. It's that are very unbelievably disciplined and very well coached at using those things to their advantage. I mean daviel. Mitchell was the best that right he was able to just get in front of somebody in take charge. I honestly don't mind that one as much because if beating someone to the spot like you kind of ernie is the ones where someone slides over. And it's not even trying to make a play on the ball we talk about. What's what's best for the game and want to see your best player. Make a play. Do you wanna see someone. Try to block shot at the rim bloc dunk at the rim may get dumped on maybe get a poster maybe highlight. Maybe someone sportscenter or do you want to see your best player going up getting undercutting fallen down. Maybe he's got two free throws out of it. Maybe he's picking his third foul in the first half because it was bad charge. Call i just. I hate the off ball. Secondary fender fall down into a spot. I just. it's not basketball. Speaking donald mental. He he he he. He was one of the best defenders off scene because he wouldn't let you set a ball screen. And how many times can you say. I think marcus geared did a few times but you to continue his boss raise. We'll one four or five boss freeze and he had never let you let me just got over and beat you to the spot. So i think you got guys like that. That's that's a whole other level. Mike right there but i'm which do like my high school coach like you gotta rewarded by taking charge. So i'm a big fan of charges. I'm sorry fellas mark my thing is man. I i think it should be one basketball. I think that it helped the game. If the ncaa rule s have one basketball so everybody could stay hot all the time we only league in the world of the change balls goes on. Why does that. Why is that because it's for money. I'm totally get it but like an ncaa. They own the the tournament so we pay a one ball and everybody getting rid s do one ball one universal basketball because we will preparation. You go play texas tech. You gotta go get out your unarmored balls if you go play. You gotta get out the nike balls. Yeah so when we amount trip. Utah's unarmored from utah. To go to colorado nike so we switched bosnia. We come on la. That's adidas bar and then we'll pay our gang. Nike ball comprise only the into aa only. The can't figure this shit out syria and say we should how to one hundred percent four goodman profanity on our families doing every time every week at and see why he met that to something. Special heart is right. We can't beat notre dame undamaged by the most ball by the way she shoes willow. Wealth the ball without thinking about four quarters. I'm not a big fan. I just take changes are game. But i know there's there's some movement towards that. I'm looking for a quarters break game now much easier. That twenty minutes on the clock. That's like a few minutes. You give them a better rhythm you get your tv timeout. Uva you get your group in. And out i i. I wish we did four quarters. While i did some reporting on this last week on it so i don't know when we're getting four quarters because the problem is Men's college basketball is different from every other sport in that the nfl has a tv deal with all of its you know with all with all channels at arunachal games the same thing with the nba. The contracts always end at the same time and in the women's game. You only had a handful of games on television across a couple of networks so that it was not hard to restructure the td contract in men's college basketball. The cbs deal doesn't end at the same time as the fox deal doesn't end at the same time. The espn deal so you cannot have a situation where espn goes. Okay we're cool. If we want to completely restructure how we send our commercials in add money to a template that aligns with four quarters but then you've got the big ten network that's got two more years after that fox has three more years. Cbs has five more years. After that. you have to have all the television contracts end at the same point. So that you can restructure. At least that's how it was explained to me by tv. Executive and someone at the level. So i think everyone wants to get to or not everyone but a lot of people wanna get to the four quarters because it makes sense. It's logical progression but television money is the thing that is preventing this from happening and the feedback. I got was if this ever happens. It's at least ten fifteen years out. Once we get beyond the the current media landscape of how college basketball broadcasts on traditional brazilian play. they're like how would that be impacted right. If there's ten stoppages are playing a game right in the the the companies are paying for their ten spots or whatever it is like are we taking away stoppages of play. Yes sir there would would be. That's what i was told. There would be a reduction when quarters 'cause you would only have them at the quarter breaks and then it's come should ask should have rights each get a time out right. You're under seven. You're under three your quarter break. And if i mean just throwing it out there right you can give him the idea. Just add avary timeouts. You get like a throwaway twenty seconds. I'm out and now you come to the same amount of stoppage. The played with the other one. I think it solvable. But it's something that i think takes a true concerted effort and all the invested parties are not interested in doing at this point. Because you're involved again. You're involving the rules. Committee the conferences that have their own tv deals right. Cody and then the television executives who lord over so much of this is something that's audible and i'm kind of ambivalent on it. I would like to see it but if it doesn't happen i'm okay with but the pr- the situation presenting their yeah absolutely I think it is something that we can conquer. But i just don't think it's i think we'll look up in ten years in men's college basketball still going to be a two half game. I mean. I think there's two things that really really matter for this at least for me. It's the watch ability of the product on tv right. There's nothing more frustrating than when you get that. Tv timeout at the under sixteen and then with fifteen minutes forty five seconds left. Somebody calls a timeout in the second half so you get that three minute tv timeout. Then you come back and play for ten seconds That's going away. That's that's good of you to that. The other part of it is that when you with all of these thousand or called when both teams are in the bonus with seven minutes left in a half and you just have nothing but free throws down the stretch of the game like that can really kill stuff too especially when you're tournament and There are so many tightly cold games. There's lawn foul so the rule reset fouls apiece I don't know if that's something that is actually ended up happening but to me. That makes a lotta sense. Excuse me he has the product on tv better. They they didn't. I don't know why didn't they discuss basically going to fake for quarters format but they just. They didn't do it. Because i know there's enough still that still like the one in one on two four quarters into the fouls like you don't have one anymore which i cannot i. Cannot i kind of understand why they why they would resist that. But i think that's why this was on the table. 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Good let's lighten dot com slash. Good to post your first job. Free terms and conditions apply are. Who who else. Who else has some ideas for rule changes overall. Yeah one thing. I had especially off the court. And chris kind of loosely early when he was talking about you know having managers go work out with guys and so forth i can. Atc you know see. Why probably solve email today. But i think we're gonna kinda go to this started with the pandemic of the last summer. But i i really feel like like your graduate assistant or your operations guy or something like that like no one things. I've been a product here. Beer notre dame the twenty one years especially the last half my your for twenty one years because you had success on the court and off the court you know you're doing things the right way One i've taken a lot of pride in is like mentoring. Some are young coaches on our staff including the last five or six years guys lifeforce probably even more important young black coaches that are starting their careers out that. I think that this is just such an important step for those guys and you know for those guys not to be able to get on the court and actually work with guys. I just think that's that's just not right. For example like a couple years ago we had Eric atkins who's assistant at gw. Right now will be a head. Coach here shortly. was in our kind of our video ronin like that and you know. Our young apprentice help but he was a freshman. Eric was on our staff and You know he wasn't able to go. You know the both from the dmv area you know they had developed a great relationship off the court like eric aca trivial to go help how. 'bout on the court to help you know. He's a very good point for us to help you know teach himself the nuances of the game and so forth. I just think we're we're getting you know. We got something a day. Where i think we're gonna get to that point. At least we're going to experiment with this summer To be able to do that. I just think that's so important. You know the core to interact with guys. I know the recruiting pizzas. One thing be. I'll go out and recruit but you know there's a lot of recruiting that's done off the court to that. Those guys were involved with which i think helps prepare those guys but like we got you know. Loosen it up a little bit and let those guys actually get out there and sweat with those guys specially like during the summertime. When we're on the road like able to work with guys like crista the you know you have to get a manager. Maybe workout for the next couple of hours like we should be able to do that. We should have our young guys in our staff. Sgt be able to step in those roles. I think i think there will for me. I think that's the change very fast. Because and la every agency is out here so they can work out with our grass. It just don't work out with a runner on average six. Come onto the coach trip so for me. I think that just because win away. We got a million runners. I right so they come in your head coach heiko if they did that for us that eliminates some our players. We had like three in the past. The name draft diggins they work but our guys with unlimited our right. I think that that really helped for us out here because every agent is trying to get all players right now. It's just been my experience. The last six years that the gym keeps kids out of trouble. If you you ncwa. I don't understand how practical intelligence that until you that if the kid is in the gym he's not in the club he ain't running straight. He's not doing things that get you in trouble collins. So that's something that really really bothers me. I that's something that we gotta get change and the guys is still a bunch of lazy guys out here some some guys. Don't wanna gimme jim we get. We have blessed here at florida state. The new bloods plugin a that. We get kids with tremendous amount of humility. That wanna be. Jim wraps but it's hard dancing around that time. They that definitely has a change in the agent. Deal jayson stark mountain real israel to get that Are power players. i'll throw out real quick From a from media and consumer standpoint and actually be interested to see what Will you guys is coaches Feel how it changed. It doesn't change at the games. I want i understand that. We're never going back to the way it was without monitor reviews but there there are too many and there have been instances a lot of them in the past couple of seasons guys. You will be point game with a minute to go. Take fifteen minutes a real time. It is a terrible experience there so my role proposal is that once wants. The monitor review begins. That process begins when the official is looking. You get sixty seconds. You get sixty seconds or you stick with the call. And that's it so that even if you have three of these in the final minute of the game like not that. There is a wisconsin iowa game. I think it was the final regular season game this season. It took twenty minutes in real time to play the final two minutes of the game. This just never happened there. I'm actually curious when that stuff is happening in you injured dealing with all this like almost comically like what the hell are you talking on the huddle for all that time. There's only so much you can say about a given situation there and it's just it's it's dead air and it's something that college basketball's verily needs to clean up because we know we're going back to not having it so we're gonna have it. We have to protect the official themselves so they can't be staring at the same thing for five six eight minutes. I'll say this that starts with them. Being reliable officials right inconsistent officials. But what the nba did it i like. Obviously we've got the replace center secaucus right so somebody else's looking at it so when it happens they go over. The dancers are being given to them. They're not. it's not there for them to decide. I would love to see each conference. Go to that right because when you go to the monitor now you if you put a timer on it ta- about how long it be a review takes right but at the end of the games to getting back to it is i mean. There's a lot on the line here as well. Right these are. We're not playing for fun right. We put roofs overheads right feeding feeding kids through this game paying for college education. Things like that so to to me. It's important that we get it right. It has to be gotten right because if you are in the short end of that's thick on the losing side right in. That could be the difference between somebody having a job or not having a job or this or that it is a. It's it's just unacceptable to me. So i liked the thought of a reviews a review center and and to me also like the thought of the coach's challenge being at the end. 'cause we had that in the During my time all three years thousand the g. league we use that challenge and to me. I thought that was valuable right. If you really think you're right throughout your time out there put something on you know. Put a little skin in the game. what else. What else we got andrea. What what would you change say marvin and it goes back to play and stuff. I love the nba. Eru of the last two minutes with If time outs solid bounce out of taking berg gray basketball mas about college basketball you get that pin. Drop something pretty in those situations. That'd be one rule. Alexey coming out of the college is our love watching the nba games. A couple minutes. Maybe game exciting to watch this some off the court and not. I'm unicorn on this dance. The recruiting count drive me crazy. I should have one. I'll take it may fit safe. And i'm free and as a term going on down the road i should be at goto. It you can. I think every school's different academic calendar. So you can't mandate when guys have breaks when the kids ain't there so allow us to go. I'll take it hurts. People don't cheat by pitting those counties on us and it takes away from us being able to have contact without families a lotta times because the restrictions and so they still always talk about the third parties. These handle stuff. I'll take this get out more. We could kind of eliminate some of the middleman more because we could develop relations. So that's the only thing i drive me. Nuts actually calendar. I hate the calendar. Follow the rules. And i'm going to do it but i wish there was less wants a gel. That's why andrei grades the best mid major assistant in the country. He needs to go up to big jobs. that's greatness. i agree with that. I agree but guys. I'll work other. What's you wanna work. You get the player now again. Sometimes you you can. Still work is hard as you can but if that other guys doing some other shit stuff sorry why then they get the player but but if everything's equal give it to the guy who's gonna work so let guys go out whenever they want to go out. What's the big deal. Well the big deal is sometimes you gotta ask some time for your wife. Your family to we had to go out all the time. It'd be like you know during the season and you have a dead period. Have a couple of dead periods were dead. We're still any anything. But it's too i want to see change one is. I think it's corny to have tied up possession basketball and there are some of the ribs are not consistent. they give it a jump ball somebody else. I think everything should be a jumble ice now reward in that s corning near the two things. I'm a father of a upcoming College to navigate ice station. Tell me. I have to leave the gym when my son is not playing a game. That's that's corn. But i want a washed again and say. Hey little jason do dribble left watching we. I'm supposed to leave the gym when his games over like i'm really entertaining recruiting somebody else so i think those rules are too much that they think we always owner. I think had to put a little bit more human realistic with that office. An rule or anything. But i was curious if you guys started talking about with your staff's game attire just coming out of last year when everybody was wearing we going back to the suits not hope. Not xavier won't davis slacks pullover. And that's what we ga saves money. I know more tailored suits. Animal cleaners bills financing options. Still going shorts right to marry this year so it might be shirtless with students. Well arrive you better. You better start working out more than that. i would like to see change and then And so we were over to the world games and play and with a ball is hit the rail line. i thought the game was so much More exciting more intense and just better just a better flow and pace of a game when you guys is going to get it right. You know why went up. Boy you could go snatch often You could save the little corny. Jason i like that word a little forty you know goaltending calls and that man. Let's play house. Well let's get go. I thought that was really really fun. And all our guys like a was over there in the world game. So i think that would be be some cool to bring to. The game was on the table last week in. I don't know why. I was actually giving the impression that they would have a good chance to go to the nit. Experimental phase for next season. Didn't even get there the only feedback. I got an advance of that was at the american level. Haven't been talked to play that way so there might have been some reticence over physicality around the rim. But i think the game is going to jared. I think it's headed that. Like i think that will be a rule like we'll look into decade. That will be a role. I don't know why there was a players one or two games to kind of figure it out effort right. also it's one less thing for the official to have to worry about. It just seems like the ultimate win win so like there are a couple of things that didn't get pushed through that. We're a little like okay. I guess i kinda that one kind of blew me away. There's no downside to this. That can talk foresee. It's the feeble rule we should just implemented immediately and they just they just opted not to but i think if there was enough. Push from coaches. You know in the next year and the year after that like you you send feedback to the people that needs to be sent to barnes and huggins are now going to be on the on the rules committee for the next year or two. I think there's a chance that could actually get pushed through the next time. They vote rule stuff. 'cause i don't know it brings a certain excitement to the game and again it's one less thing for the officials anytime you can take something practically out of the officials hands for the betterment of the game. It's just over here. What else we got any other ideas any other things that you absolutely hate in the game right now. That should be changed. jeff. I don't know about that. I wanna remind everybody follows. This is a family of that is preventing to. I've got a question garad rod. What was the reason that you would favor of the wider land wanted. You can elaborate on the From the c. y. The be able you know we're talking about the charge call earlier. I think that when you have a elena that's narrow there's more to rob's point there's more contact near the room you know and i. I grew up with the charge. But i do think there's too many charges in the game to especially near the rim so i thought that that maybe could aleve that problem a little bit by having you know guys further out from the basket so and You know so. I i'll be back i was. I would love to see us. Go basically the fever rules. I twenty four second shot clock. I like the wide lane. But here's the thing about the wide lane to just piggyback on that. He talk about space right. The wide lane impacts the offense player sitting in there for three seconds right because we don't have a d. three so inherently what happens is the big guys have to cleanse further out away from the rim. So when they do that. We're still going to try to teach our guys to state that loman spot. But what are they going to do right. They're going to have more of a tendency to follow that guy one or two steps even away from the rim which touted the caveat to that is on a drive on the right side if my guy cleansed right himself over on the left side it's further for that guy to go to get a position to take that charge so there's less likelihood he can even make it there. So that's the thing that i love about the wide lane. I think that changes the game. I do like twenty four second shot clock because it speeds things up you guys like twenty four second shot clock or no overall. I liked congruence. I think the better the same reason high school basketball out of shot clock. I mean have congruence between high school to college to profession. only do about that. Because i've been mellon oy and recruiting chicago. Let me some of those. Those guys can't even have a have enough money for bleachers or less known to put a shot clock so i think a lot of people in the state illinois chicago wanted but it was just financially funds. Come from so. I think That's big a lot of people. Think about let's for the shock likely about somebody's communities somebody cities. There's but is it. Is it college game to go. Twenty four are able to do that. I liked the twenty four but a deficit will help if you had no starting at the high school level ma. Biggest pet peeve is when the referees telling kids to sit out for celebration like are you serious. Super cornea vase was say i was like it was like you could dunk the ball in warm ups. Robert you get a technical foul name is players like some of these kids never get into game in their time to the guy that played behind four pick so for me to bring some to the table from a handprint on that team was to celebrate in bring energy and now soon as i get up i got a referee. Who's missing a call down this way telling me me and my players sit out like little stuff like that is just like komo analysis play bass woah. Nothing worse than hanging on the room calls nothing worse than the technicals. It's like come on man like let him celebrate as long as they're not doing too chin ups they wanna do case in what he got. Is everybody catch on everything to twenty seconds economy That is where. I think what we're doing is as a as an organization instead of low. We we won't play fast and so what what would be better than spending game. Twenty four second shot clock to get a quick To get more transition best to make the playoffs they're not better So i think everybody gets a lot of different points. I would like to see to be honest with you away with the whole ten seconds. A call in the backcourt. As i'm not i don't understand the point of it Why like a situation rests on this now. You do it a lot. Because he's just forget grew so wayne just kind of interested because not not picking ninety four feet. I need a baby. Eight-man booted leave true. I never gonna be working. It will be irrelevant. User frazier gonna come off the bench and take charge. I love the. I love the young fellow state but i need a ten second line to what about. What about other recruiting rules gas. You guys are obviously involved in recruiting more than anybody else. Is there anything else that you would change there again. you know. My whole deal is less than the the a matter restrictions. What specifically is there. Anything else that. I love years ago when i first broke in recruiting there. Were things that you could do to be creative when you went to events to to stand out from everybody else. I miss that i miss. Listen to summer to me sucks now. Compared to how it used to be it used to be fun it used to have characters used to be able to be creative. Now it's like none of that are coming to the games with tj four t shirts. Yeah i mean listen the bail even the baylor shirts right. How big they were and then didn't like ban the size that could have the lettering. I mean listen you had john. Beeline yelling at nudes. Because they're standing in front of doorway like come on like like stuff's gotta loosen up in recruiting and have fun and like you said. It's all about the kids. Like let them have fun. And i think part of it is promotional part of it. I think we lost it. I'm not the biggest sunny for karaoke. Ganic in the world but that dude knew how to promote. Didn't he like sebastian. Tell fair darius washington matchup abcd that was bigger than like lebron against by the way we all thought it was. And now there's no there's no juice in any of the buildings we got clerk there. We where smu we just signed key phrases. And we're trying to get jordan mickey and we prayed. Some shirts nike shorts. I said a nun wrong with staying at home. The didn't have nothing personal but his family. Everybody knew what we saw with school. Sorta sad because we had a shirt and say none role was staying at home is like komo like you do your job. If you're worried about my words shirt but it'd become is is that in a in corny and at from a recruiting standpoint. You gotta allow the out workpeople rules. That don't allow people out eight. If you want to be a boring not working extra do as on you. You wanna stay home. That's on you. How silverback outlook is bored. I'm following the bus if i have to. I won't daddy as young. I'm following the bus. Now you don't blow you you gotta let guys out. Work used that bus. Even with this man i told you. Hey listen buses leaving four thirty need directions. The bus always going through the game. I'm about a the third. It'll be 'cause it's been out of sight out of mind been dead here for so long and we didn't have a summer last summer but it'll be interesting to see if we go back to the three a weekend so to speak in july because i always liked that during the summertime man. You're able to a lot of ground and see a lot of guys. See the best players play against the best players. They always always big with us as far as evaluations I think we're going to go to that but it's a good change after the summer. We're going to go back to the cancer. I guess we are have to be. You know because michael is president than abc's you had to be on board with the nc double. I mean i don't know how you guys felt when two years ago when we did it but you know just the best in that you know so It's gonna be interesting. Hopefully we'll get back to that this summer. But then what's going to happen. You know moving forward. You know it's going to be interesting. i'll say they. They voted on. That issue is gonna should vote next wednesday but his two eight eleven sixteenth through the eighteenth and twenty second foods twenty fifth. The thing for me is like like i said in recruited everybody's gonna run to the dita's under armour and nike. But it's going to be a lot of pros who can prove itself in high school to get on the a side. Jim so my thing is allow more side. Jim a certified. So i can go sneak and find me across nearby jimmy. Why go jason that be like to this summer. Right jason like next. It's going to go back to the camps. I think we're going to have the peach jim. you know and then i went to one phoenix and i never knew a kid named alex of was he. So it's some if you look at the right stuff you go by and opportunity to be seeing right like another set. So i didn't mind that that was cool but una piece fan. I love the pizza. I like the peaches. I liked the. I like to watch the fifteen sixteen. I liked to allied to see dance that kansas. You recruited me do we have four quote unquote no majors and say tissue. This yard team. We started by thirty minutes whereas you can tell you though we had. We had a kid transfer from rice and the jazz traffic bryce who was located out of high school. Whoa jas i knew how to handle claire. Everybody'll team i gotta go find them before they snap. I wanted to go to rise. No more just come on us because we know for us jason. It's wofford wolford a while. He was bald and he was bought. As i say. Whoa ho this modo. If you spend all this time recruiting develop relationship with these kids and parents and then you feel out you bet you gotta turn turn some obscure to even do anything like i miss the i miss. Here's to go with the lines. Be literally man. That was special in vegas jeff especially in vegas all like one of my favorite things ever was i one i breaking in recruiting and cooler and he went up to me. It was bradley. Abcd and he said to me he goes. Hey can you do me favor. Can you tell that kid that bbc that we're gonna offer him a scholarship and i looked at him. I like your head. Coach isn't even like l. Skinner hasn't even seen him. He's like just just tell them we're offering. I'm like i'm not telling them you're offering a mosquito like the shit that went on again. I'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry. Listen you can believe me out dos. The out later k gives him something to do. he doesn't talk you might as well add it But i think there was so much entertainment with the summer that is lost now and just tries to take away all the fun away from everything and again like to me. We gotta bring the fun back into the game. Somehow whether it's a you whether it's college whether it's recruiting whatever. It is like the in home visit is gone. Those one of the best things the in home visits stories were the best stories ever. They're gone now home. Visits you guys do now. Zoom zoom spanish. It out they know by really run run into their home but see why said with with with the that is young. He may go and do some home. Hey guys i wasn't outlet vaccinated homes as many as i can. I'm vaccinate i'm i'm not young. Later we solicit is also like your member them. Home businesses sitting out with grandma. Mama i visit. I'll miss not helps you. Secure you get them. To hold is still legal now. It's cold it by scary. No i'm saying there weren't that many of them. Even even before covid they still kinda come to a standstill for the most part they. They weren't like they used to be. Yeah i don't do a home visit. Say they'd be embarrassed. Or you know family dynamic but yeah well they tell me. Why are we going to do it on. The school is something about going into that home. Were they lay their head or break. Breasts like always denied like knock will want to be the school. I've been at the school. I need to be a mom house or anyhow somebody housing it's different. It's different one more. Thank chris Case in what the difference now is there. Anything you guys would do is mid as as major guys to try to make it more of an equal playing field. Is there any. i guess. Is there anything. In recruiting with restrictions. That hurts you. Maybe more than hurts these guys. When it comes to recruiting everything. I know i've learned from c. wa so I think for us. no. I don't think there's a pecking order. There's a natural pecking order takes place. You know. i've been at some different places in different levels. And i think it always works out if you are. Are you do a good job. You treat people the right way and try to work like see wise saying. I think you're going to get the guys you try to identify jason talking about a man. We had it. Rice drew peterson. You try to identify. Evaluation is where it's at and so at the end of the day evaluate recruit. Win some lose some. Cyo used to always say you bet. Three hundred in this thing. You pretty good so for me. That's how i view job. I had to two kids kid ever jin. He made some noise too. So yeah guys. I'm just done with the whole people. Tell me who low major major. 'cause now the high majors is still in anything at a bitter load average sixteen point so today enemies pamper that. Tell me who not good enough air fan. I don't even want to see them scouting wine. Lucie that jason harder absolutely right that key to it is evaluating stealing fellas When eleven to spurs for us i was in a recruiting warwick presbyterian at north dakota. They laughed at me when i signed invested laughed at days. He's playing in the big shots tournament. I'm gonna laugh at. I was right down. The road would try to get out laughing at right. That was a that was a true evil right there brother classic case our people know what the hell you looking for. See it you stick to your gone. You laid on the tracks for that dude. And that's what he got. Lost art and our game soon especially at higher. Evaluation is a lost art. People go off on who recruited who or who would who got these media offers. I trust my eyes but it's a lost art. I'm not your boss. Boss in your school is chasing having a number one and two recruiting class. dose kids are still gonna get handed over to other programs. Is your boss or with the school one. Like when heavy recruiting glasgow want some good players. I'm gonna say this respect jerry's in kansas. I mean they had a quarter of devante graham. Who's going to abstain in frame state. right that's bass as a great valuation now on the people. They think that that's a blue blood having a program but those two to be a major guard people said You gotta give card styles credit. Because if i'm not mistaken he wanted to go see jordan mclaughlin with sc and it was back rule. Eighteen sides him in vegas frank hat one part of his hair braided and other half not braided. And katie. what goes see jordan. He'd like a little kid picking up his new ninety four feet and he called coach. Said is this a flute. We're back the next day in offering so it's a trust tomorrow's joan. His hanes is getting pretty good at it too. He stole him from saint francis. Eileen bid three days watching law and order when i lost the that that track track athlete the one that run a forty and four one s name older keyword. But everybody on this call back. Jim atlantic most why c. Why won't hang with you at a piece this year. Baby you know get together a piece. I see jamil. i'm gonna be at the. I'm south carolina. South carolina turning fell. Ill pizzas together. I will there with my hoodie and you ask them nikes on jan airmax joseph food. That's going to be the third day. The first peacedale. Maybe you're guaranteed misses. That long break in the middle of peach jam from ten years ago when you see everybody at the pool this listen appreciate everybody jumping off for this. This is good. This was a chance to talk about the rules and the good the bad the ugly. And we'll do it again. We'll we'll have everybody back. Make sure again everybody listening coaches candid conversations every single week. We'll have different coaches different topics. And let's hope all merced candidates jason heartless i liken on a counter three. Let's see who could get to the puerto houses.

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June 27, 2019: Vancouver Is Making All The News

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June 27, 2019: Vancouver Is Making All The News

"I got my sign here. Yes. Don't play with my phone want cards now. Thirty four passwords. It's not my computer Jeff's, computer, don't play with Jeff computer. Valuable information on there. You play with my. Okay. Elliott Friedman a little preview for free agent day. And a reminder as always, thank you to our friends at GMC thirty one thoughts brought by the next generation GMC. Sierra Denali gonna run through a couple of topics in issues that are going on in the NHL right now hoping to get this out as soon as possible, because things are changing and moves are happening really quick. So the latest one at least one of the holiday trade, but the bigger one right now Elliott is the Roberta Longo situation. He retires after nineteen seasons in the NHL on a pause. What this means for lewanda and the Florida Panthers but for the Vancouver Canucks this means three million dollars season in cap, recapture. How surprised how pissed off our Vancouver I think they were aware that this was coming. There were rumors around the draft last weekend that quite, possibly lewanda would retire rather than go on long term injury list. I'm sure Florida is much happier for cash. Outlay that Lewan go is doing that. I wonder if there's going to be like down the road. He's hired by the Panthers to do something locally. So there's kind of like a I don't know if nudge nudge, wink, wink is the right word, but whatever he's given up. He'll work for the organization, and they'll pay him down the road to be a local embassador. I mean who would be better for them in that area than Lewan, go? But I heard last weekend there was a possibility. This was going to happen. And I think the connects had heard that this was a possibility it could happen. And I think they knew this would affect potentially their cap space for the next three years. So you think they've been modeling based on the new number that they have, which is three million dollars less than everybody else. Right. I think they were aware their possibility of that existed. Yes that would affect potential signing of Tyler Myers. It seems as if those two are walking down the aisle. The thing is that was really crazy. Was there were people that said to me that Myers was most? Likely going to Vancouver, and nothing that happened when they met on Sunday night, changed all that. I think there were people saying that he was gonna get seven times. Seven I don't think these getting seven times seven, but that's what, what created the hysteria. I think the connects new all the time that they were probably going to be doing less than that. Because of this situation. Now Myers might still get six and a half, something like that. But I think that connects knew they couldn't go that high. I mean, they still have to deal with Besser, and I'm guessing if that has any term to it at all six years, that's going to be seven and a half. So I still think it's likely the Tyler Myers will be connect, but I don't think it's going to be for seven million dollars season. I think it's going to cost Vancouver anywhere. It might be the next person. They were thinking about beyond Besser and Myers. We've sleeves in the next part of the conversation, and we will get back to long here in second, which is where. The Vancouver Canucks at right now. There is a feeling out there that listen, Saint Louis blues just won the Stanley Cup things can turn around quickly in the NHL with a lot of teams. We know the owner wants the full court press on making the playoffs and the general managers seems to be behaving as, if he is going to follow those marching orders. C. J. T Miller coming in acquisition of someone like Tyler Myers. We'll see what happens on July. First. Where's the Vancouver Canucks organization at right now? We've seen a couple of big moves and Miller move. They resigned editor on two years, there's logo situation with the cap recapture, but where's Vancouver at right now because we've pointed out numerous times that the presence and the production of Pederson changed everything. And right now they have one of the best luxuries in the NHL, and that's that guy on an entry level deal there, at least gonna try to compete for a place but next year and seriously compete. You know they've put themselves in a position where they have no choice but to do it that JT Miller. Draft. Pick is going to be a first rounder either next year or the year after. So the idea of not at least competing for a place spot, that's out of the question. Now they have to do with a bit less money than they hoped. You know, that's for sure. I wondered if they were going to go after Gardner. I thought when they got Adler resigned, that was no then they lost Hutton, and they could still re-sign Hutton. But I'm not convinced he's going there. I think he knows obviously how the organization feels about him. He's not worth that price point. He may end up somewhere else. Like there were a lot of rumblings in the hours before the qualifying offer deadline that Hutton, and the connection, the least we're talking about something. So I don't know if they're going to be able to afford to get Gardner though. I wouldn't be surprised if it's Jordi banner, something like that. Because without hot in there, they're thin on the left side behind ler. But they're in a position where they know they're going to be three million short. And that's. Gonna make it a little tight on some of the things they wanna do Vancouver Canucks as we all know, of course, hosted the draft this past weekend. One, you quick thought on drafting Vasily poed Kohl's is you've talked about him before. And you made the suggestion that it might be one of those teams that's taking a long view because he's married to the cage L for a couple of seasons. He Saint Petersburg. Don't expect them anytime soon. Your thoughts on Vancouver taking Colson well initially when they first took him I was surprised because it doesn't fit what I talked about. But Jim Benning made a really good point. He said that anybody. They would have drafted ten was two years away anyway. So why not go for the best available player like whether or not Jim Benning, the GM in Vancouver, not long term? I have a feeling that drafting that player he's going to be remembered fondly for that pick. I think that guy and, you know, better than I do you follow these guys more than I do? He's a really talented player. I kill kill. I think that, you know, I said, whether he's there or not a long time. I think he did a really good legacy pick for the organism. Asian. I some fans came up to me after the draft and they said, well, you know, tramp can laugh. So why would this guy wanna come to us, and I think their different situations. I don't think they're comparable I think most of the good young Russian players, they wanna play North America. They wanna try. And I think he will, I think, capris odd is gonna come over to Minnesota after this year. There's another Zaitsev and the one played in red deer. I think he's going back to Russia for three years. But I think some H L teams are going to try to see if they can get them signed as a free agent. Rain Bill you're allowed to do it. We're going to get to one of those Russian players very much staying very much going to be rich sooner than later. And that's Panara. Darren, but wanted to get your thoughts on the salary cap itself. Yup. Lot of eyebrows raised at eighty one point five is anything behind that number keep best grow low, low tell you story years ago. And I've promised the players, the two players involved, confirmed it for me as long as I would never reveal their names. There was an NHL team. And this is going back at least a decade, I think where a team was having a vote in its dressing vote the escrow and this was at a time when the players generally were bumping it up a full five percent every year, and one of the players was tired about, and he was a star. And one of the players was tired of paying the full five percent. And he's like guys this year I wanted to last the full five percent. I'm losing too much money. I don't like it, and I think we should dial it back and another player and it was a prominent player. Was not as good a players. The first guy said it, but he was a good player, he jumped up and he L and he said. Oh, okay. And this guy was going to be a free agent that summer still the flare jumped up. And he said, okay, so when you were free agent, I voted to give the max cap available that you could have. And now that I'm a free agent your gonna vote differently and it turned into a bit of a verbal battle. But then to his credit, the superstar player said, you know what you're right? I'll do it. You did for me. I'll do it for you. But that's what it does create some division and this year, I know there were some free agency. They're restricted or unrestricted who were unhappy, but the group as a whole is getting fed up with this. I think the two sides are quietly moving towards getting the CBA either extended or changed so that there will be labor peace. We do know. They are meeting this summer. They are meeting and they have met, and there is a quiet sense of optimism is. I keep getting told and the salary cap what happened this year is part of that. But Jeff eighty percent of the players in our contract, if they all decide to vote and say, no, it stopped, then that's what's going to happen. And they'll tell you this like they're a couple of owners who told their GM's the gems were a little bit upset. And there were a couple of owners who looked at them and said, look, if I was a businessman, I would do the same thing, the players are it makes sense for them. And I think that's kind of where we are. I think we're in a situation where this is what people want. And I think we're gonna see it next summer. I think teams are under the impression that same thing is going to happen next year, a very minimal increase, and then the US TV deal kicks in, in two summers and they'll sort it out, then. So should we be optimistic to the point where we look at this number and what may happen next year with the cap and say, this is a dressing the biggest need in the next CVA because there's not a lockout issue? And if. There is a strike issue. It's escrow, this is a dressing it. I don't think the players are gonna vote to open it. I just don't think they have that in them, but I'm saying their main issue is escrow. Yes. Does the flat cap this year in potentially next year address that and should we read into it? Then we are close to a deal and labor. Management piece, I would never say or close to a deal. But I think we're on the path, I think there is an optimism there, that it will get done from what I've been told the league submitted a bunch of different scenarios to the players. This is where we see the cap going in the next couple of few years. If you want the escrow, zero, if you want the extra five or six percent, this is what we think is happening, the new US TV deal two years from now all that stuff. And I heard there were like five or six different scenarios, and all of them took a bump. After the twenty twenty twenty twenty one season when Seattle's about the come in. Right. I heard that all of that was part of it. And like I said, I think history tells us Jeff that you can't assume anything until it's done. But I think that the players feel that the legal work with them on a deal to ease the escrow. But the moment you start opening up to too many more things than that, that's when you're going to have a problem. I think they want Olympics and escrow Olympics is a harder sell. But I just think players don't wanna fight. It's a good deal for the owners. They know it. And the only way I think this ends in any kind of stoppage is if it really goes off the rails for a stupid reason. Okay. From CBA talk to more of a dinner bell topic. Let's just call it for, for the purposes of this podcast are FA. As we've talked about them all season long. And we've talked about offer sheets, which out of all of them, and we've all gone over the headline makers, which one is the most interesting case to you. Well, I mean martyrs the one that's been kind of in the spotlight. But let's take him out of the equation. I think people are kind of people are martyred out. Yeah, they're martyred out point to me is interesting because he is the guy who sounds most like he doesn't want the fight point seems to be the most agreeable player. But I don't think he wants to be kucherov like Nikita was, I think he's looking at something a little bit more than that. I think line is interesting because he seems to be the one that wants the bridge. A lot of these guys don't want the bridge. He wants the bridge. And you know, I think he can get it. Besser is not eligible for an offer sheet. Matthew check could Chuck is interesting because he's represented by Newport. They have signed their clients. Some killer deals casts Carlson Skinner. I don't think Calgary wants to pick a fight with him, and they also have to sign Riddick, who is a Newport client. I think Calgary recognizes his value, and I think they want him. But to me, the most is who's going, I Jeff, who's gonna be the one that goes I because I think there's a fear of being first of setting a market that gets you criticized by their other teams or by other restricted free agents is this is my theory now on the Maple Leafs and martyr. I think the leaves are going to offer them like two times eight, and they're going to say we all believe the Cavs going up in two years. Why don't you sign then when we have more room and the maximum is higher line is going to do that. Because I think he was unhappy. He was unhappy with the way last year finished he's almost going to send the jets like a, a warning like I wasn't happy here. And how are we all going to fix this? And he has to take some of the responsibility for that he wasn't as good as he could be. But I think also like you know, that's a team or the leadership expects an extremely high standard. And I think some of the young players of chafed under that of it. I think you can sort that out over term. I really do, but I think those guys are all going to have to work together. I actually think it's going to be a good thing for Winnipeg in the long run that that happens. I could see Toronto gonna modern saying you want to times eight, and then we'll see where the cap is in two years.