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The Grizzlies and Andre Dala have mutually agreed to let him stay away from the team as Memphis attempts to find a trade partner. Daniel Cormet will not retire and says that the only opponent he wants to phase in the octagon is Steep Bay Myo Myojin which close men steeper. You got that right meal. MIO IS MIA and finally David Rise. She was broken over one hundred Guinness World Records to promote stem education including one that we mentioned then finally yesterday where he sliced through sixty two Kiwis while standing on an inflatable. Swiss ball broke the record for furthest Tortilla yeah thrown as you heralded a distance of fifty four feet five inches wow I could do that fifty four feet a Tortilla. Can you talk like a Frisbee. I mean how else would you toss it. Fifty feet is nothing. What's the regulation on this Tortilla size. I can do that. We're doing tomorrow okay very good. We don't do anything that we say we're going to do but now. I'm going to hold you to it. I'M GONNA write it down here. I wanted this. Tortilla throwing thing that you think so easy. I WanNa do it tomorrow. What kind of Tortillas for you to get scoops oops. What are we doing. He's not gonNA get anything. He's just going to talk about it and then never do it right now. Alison get the tortillas get the budget for the TORTILLAS. Make Billy do this because this is what he does. He says things and and then never does that. Those what you throw that's like a little football. That'd be perfect. Well like a little meat in it and wait to it apart. It would explode in the air who says spring it would be raining meet every raining men and meet at does seem fun to throw a Burrito. Does the picture was indoors indoors. There's no wind factors and it was pretty big. I can do this same environment to train. Ah We're doing it tomorrow for all the latest headlines of information due to the sports that are ESPN radio all throughout the day. I am tempted to go down to the Cleveland Kitchen. Go get some tortillas and you do it before the hour because I'm so tired of you saying you can do things and then we never get to them and you don't talk to me. You still are GonNA. Take penalty kick against professional goaltender that is ten years running is the goal is still around. I mean the team still around died of natural natural cause for ten years. You said you were GONNA. Take ten penalty kicks against a professional goal who challenge you here and you never showed up to any of it's your move. I did challenge him. She said I can easily make cakes. You've never taken that's. That's that's who you are. It's our entire life with you. So Chris has gone to get some tortillas and we're going to see billy. We're going to put you out on across the street and see how good you are throwing Tortilla. He wanted a month train. Don't even give them a night and not even GonNa give him a segment billy's been in Dungeon for two days listening to all the a useless sound produced all around the NFL. We Really Miss Andrew Lock. This is the Andrew Lock memorial useless sound. Who was the star this week gives Freddie. Kitchens got any good at it is he. Is. He not useless enough. No one's good a highlight. I think is Jamal Williams this week really really packers cancelled. Jamal Williams is the highlight. We're going to have to wait a minute till we get to it but we've got some strong strong useless oun from the football weekend. Let's get to it right now in a win win the game so oh. I don't think I do very good offensively where choice spot as you can. Get your fix. There's drills for that but the stuff that he did in the game. There's not drills for that. They they got to make overtime so for the most part of it was a game. It's great to have heart. Isn't it great to have heart man and with heart to go. Check feast or famine It's a wake up call. You are what you are when you play. The point was a score as many points could not worry about 'cause. I'm on the right plan relative to what those guys are going to be doing. A lot of people would be defeated at that moment but we didn't bat an eye. We turn overs in the first half. We settled feudals turnovers in the second half and scored touchdowns so that's the outcome. I always do compete mattel off no matter what the score is whether we're winning whether we're losing whether it's tight it's more about awesome news about the opponent every week regardless of where they are. We're just trying to get better each and every day player best on Sundays. The thing that I left he knows where the exit doors are and that is something. You really can't teach coach. We were the ones that put ourselves in this position and we have to be the one to to get us out. We don't close our ears on anything think we got to work in concert as a football team and they work better concert than we did. You don't let you check your you on that casts. A lot of people put their ego out to try to check your ego on that and then and then keep it open. We didn't work in concert to accentuate the positive. We didn't work in concert well enough to minimize the the negative. This team will win a lot of games going forward and what we thought they would be on paper will not be what we see on the anytime you know they can give short field. We're we're excited. We smell blood in the water. We're GONNA try to get a human being like everybody else. He's a Well oiled machine. Fire yards isn't going to make a difference really see the field goal. Five yards would admitted needed it. We came out a lot of effort so you know you do that. You make plays and get things usually happen when you play great effort. I've been around a lot of smart people. I'd rather be around the tough people football team got there was on the right path and now that he's gone is GonNa on the right path. You really can't say enough about the consistency of what type of player he is tenacity that he has the way he goes about the game. You know he's long. He's relentless. He he just a great pro. What is it about when when these conditions you seem to be love you look at all the rain. The rain slows everybody else down so I I feel like I feel like a mermaid and everybody else like dogs swimming. I mean I'd be like I'm just fooling out there. I think is the rain that's Jamal Williams. Everyone everyone else is a dog trying to paddle. He's a mermaid. What is Tomlin talking about bats. It's the best answer i Mike Tomlin has that sort of military rat-tat-tat cadence of giving you thoughts in wisdom's in a very sergeant style. I think we should applaud both players in the Jameis Winston journalist exchange because both of them were as I it was great follow up. Did you see the field goal. Five yards would have made a difference. It doesn't okay good all right. The TORTILLA has been secured. Billy has a Tortilla find out in the next segment. Get a handful of them because I'd like to have multiple options I don't want. Did you come back with a mile. I don't want you coming back with your excuses that this. Tortilla fell apart get like four five of them from the Cleveland or kitchen. We're going going to try and see if you can throw indeed. Tortilla a mile and the next segment you just have to throw at fifty four feet six inches. If you want the railroad we will be watching to see if billy. Gil AIRMONT executive producer if he can break the record for a Tortilla fling on ESPN news we will do that next Stugotz here. Hiring can be a slow process cafe alter. CEO Dylan Moskowitz needed to hire a director of coffee for his organic it coffee company but he was having trouble finding qualified applicants so he switched. 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Wherever you get your podcast please rate and subscribe Greg Cody. Yeah given straighttalk is brought to you by straight talk wireless everything for less only at Walmart. We just had a south beach session. Drop here on Danika Patrick. this conversation that I had with her. I have not heard her this way. Because generally I have heard her interviews in ways that are to bite sized is right and so she's very good but she she's been famous for a long time and been the face and voice of something for a long time and so she's gotten I'm very good at speaking quickly in the sound bites that you're used to getting but this conversation with her about her relationship with Aaron Rodgers about some of the things things that they're exploring at this point in their lives where they're adult now and they've gone come over all the scars that your family leaves it. It was an interesting conversation with her. I have not heard her that way so billy is now right now on ESPN news. He is at the park across the street. We'll get to him in a second. Chris Cody. Can you tell me can you just give me a little bit of an understanding of what's going to happen here. How many tortillas do you have and how confident is a feared appeared so to Billy Billy Okay Billy. Are you ready. I didn't realize I thought I was talking to Chris. You're ready to go you got the Bluetooth thin and you're ready to go yeah just like the state and I do have a neck injury that I brought up today and I didn't compare for this little windy. Go all right. Ah How many tortillas do I have three and I will say this. There are big flimsy when I was walking out. One of them almost ripped in half so I don't know how many went to try. We're going to have this thing okay. So how successful are you predicting that you're about to be though because we said fifty yards right as the is the world record. You said you throw it a mile the Phoenix for the sake of the camera. We don't have a camera. That's wide enough for a mile so I'll try to keep it around fifty chief. Okay thank you for doing that. Can you back up just a little bit. I'll tell you when to stop so that if indeed the Tortilla leaves the screen we will have that payoff. Okay stay right there billy. It's usually get throwing against the Wayne. I would suggest maybe having to win that. You're back. I mean just the thought there okay all right well. We're ready to go though so the elements are in play here it's not much of a wind here go with his cheerleading section of Chris Cody. here goes billy. He is about to try and throw a Tortilla fifty feet. Go ahead billy the the test number one throat as hard as you can. Oh wow I mean a wildcard is not feed oh windows. I don't think deserved a while. Deserve deserve a while sixteen thrown them all right. Let's try this again. Let's go see if you can get a good fling. Let's go belly in. How far is that. How confident are you. How far is that. Okay Chris Walking on feet right now. Did you just indeed set a world record did is it's can this be notarized by Guinness Right here. As Chris continues to he didn't shotput style where he spun around before throwing it like a pizza pie. ooh. Wow fifty four eighty five inches the record. I think we have a new one off. Do we have a new record he through a bit sideways. If the I don't know how official language along yeah all right a successful endeavor you did better get back up here and fail at your job up here imagine a month that train yes if only only hit longer he really on a moment's notice was able now. Chris Eating Tortilla perseus. Yes he is. He's he's been wanting to eat. It's started. He's been in wanting to chew on that. Since it began. I saw him looking at it. The first time held it he wanted to take a bite out of one of the corners. Are you guys familiar guys familiar William with when I use the phrase diaper astronaut. Do you know who I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. Do you know the story I'm talking about. When I simply put together the two words words diaper astronaut and overview nope sure don't I do apparently that astronaut her husband had an affair or she had like a threesome with somebody and she got viciously just leave jealous and got into a car drove to a site and when she needed to use the restroom she and his staff were you know the bathroom. She had a diaper on that is correct. I don't no no the the threesome part of it is correct but I think there was a love. Triangle is what you meant to allow trying. Yes uphill making a movie out of this. They are making a movie out of it but but the reason I bring it up Greg Correction. Yeah I mean it's not a threesome. That's a totally different story. It's a love triangle and it's an astronaut and they are making they came moving Natalie Portman and starring in Lucy in the sky but the the details on this are this is the first astronaut to ever believed believed to be accused of a felony and the felony was that she drove nine hundred and fifty miles in a rage and these are some of the things she had on her a buck knife begun pepper spray latex gloves and she didn't stop at any point at a rest stop. She was wearing a space diaper wants something that she would wear in space. She wore it because she was in such a rage that she wanted to get there without making any bathroom breaks. However the Natalie Portman movie that is about to come out Lucy in the sky doesn't include the diaper what does it it's the only thing I think of when I think of this story I think of this woman and the story of the diaper is how I remember this story but they're telling the story without the diaper. Wake the movie. That's what that is correct. That's my thinking entirely outrage. I'm thinking that's great mileage nine hundred miles without stopping for gas. She's got pretty good mileage in the car driving a very efficient vehicle. She has streamlined as you do sometimes in space to ratchet action with the discipline but why would you make that movie you wouldn't. You shouldn't what space is super diaper like what distinguishes wishes a space diaper. I wonder and they should call it diaper astronauts. It'd be the name of the movie instead of losing but they're not doing the diaper but but get me rewrite you know in other words. Redo the script. Call it diaper. Astronaut are idle for a movie. You wanted to go from nine including the diaper diaper. Yes diaper. Astronaut not is the quintessential movie title. It is really strange. They would leave that part out like that. Part is kind of fascinating. I mean that is the reason that this story went went viral viral ability. How do you feel about your Tortilla throwing experience. You're holding your neck as you've returned here. That was more of a success than I thought it was. GonNa be. I may have tweaked something but I I realized after I threw it. There's a way to easily break fifty fee with throwing tortillas. If you crumble it up like a ball that thing goes eight feet easy the thing just flies. There must be rules so you can crumble up a Tortilla. Why would they make a movie about the diaper astronaut without the diaper as the show that just did on the Radio Tortilla tosses Donlevatar Ard Chris Gimme another example of your father being self involved in your childhood you me thinking earlier of things he does with my wife. My wife has been going over there for years having dinner at his house and he's cooking and she hates mushrooms and yet still every Sunday mushrooms uh-huh involved with this dinner and he's like. Oh Oh she's like mushrooms me some mushroom Stugatz wife who I love little finicky gi in the culinary area and so it's tough to keep track of exactly what she'd Mushrooms Iceland Mushrooms simple. I'm going to know that for the remainder of my life shrimp fan. I love me some shrimp. She's allergic to shellfish so she says you didn't like my Schramm Triumphs Libertad show with the two guys on ESPN radio. ESPN radio is presented by Progressive Insurance guests on the Dan Lebatardshow appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. The Grizzlies and Andre Iguodala had mutually agreed to let him stay away from the team as Memphis attempts wants to find a trade partner. Daniel cormier will not retire. It says that the only opponent he wants to face in the octagon is steep a meal kitsch letter and finally a Texas man is wanted by authorities were divorcing his wife without her knowledge. Paul Nixon forge divorced documents behind their back. The divorce degrees now vacated since it was filed L. fraudulent fraudulently so it was a tough one for me Dan. I'm such a fraud. It's weird and the Nixon's are still legally married. Although currently the husband is now wanted for aggravated perjury. She is so coming after his stuff I I agree. Here's the selectquote difference most companies give you one option one policy one rape but selectquote shops it could get you up to ten options some highly rated life insurance companies for free personalized quote do what I did simple call eight hundred seventy eight zero ten ten or go to selectquote dot com today for all the latest headlines and information the sportscenter on ESPN radio throughout the day so booger McFarland on the broadcast last night. Chris Cody was delighted at how pleasant wasn't a name sounded to him of one of the players the way that booger McFarland was saying it will get to that name in a second. But how much of this are you used to hearing where the color commentators there are relationships. You shake hands with these people. You have private meetings with with these people. You're talking to the staff before the game and how often do you hear what Booger McFarland does here. We have gone two and a half hours magically. It's a real magic trick without talking about that slop last night that passed for football that none of us really wanted to watch but Jay GRUDEN would appear to be in some trouble there. How often do you hear this commentary from the broadcast booth. Not US gas bags not in columns. Not anywhere else both appeared on sportscenter after the game. That's this is from okay so it didn't happen during the telecast now okay so he's saying this on sportscenter makes a difference because I don't hear it on the telecast. Ask and that's that's why I thought it was interesting sound but played the sound from Sports Center. I think we're at a point right now. Jake Gruden's tenure where it's not if he's going to be fired. It's win He may prolong long few weeks but there's just not enough energy in this building. There's not enough energy. I think from this football team and I think eventually whether it's a week or two weeks I think Daniel Snyder is GonNa make a move at the head coaching position J. Groomsmen here. This is the sixth year he's got one playoff. Appearance Hero wins at some point you talk about this profit orgnization you talk about the old oil k. and fed ex field and everything that the Ritz can stand for and they don't have any postseason victories in the last six years and it falls. OJ GRUDEN and I think think we're nearing the end of his tenure. it's a disaster behind the scenes in Washington where employees are quitting writing lab right and you'll snyder has poisoned the entire place but what they've got is not an energy. Did you problem with they've got as a quarterback problem They did have a rookie Haskins so they can put in there. It seems like they're gonNA stick with with case keenum. I'm amazed at J. Gruden's lasted in this environment the the NFL has lasted six seasons being this below average yeah. If I'm Jay Gruden you have nothing to lose but to start Dwayne Haskins and hope that he gives you the same spark arc we were just talking about. Daniel Jones giving the giants but here's the thing so it appears to me. GRUDEN feels like case keenum gives him a better chance of keeping his job and I'm with Greg. I think Haskins gives you the best chance of keeping your job. Get some excitement in the building and it's your selection. He said he's GonNa stick with case keenum. He must just it must be something he's seeing in practice like everything if if he was seeing someone that's close to ready and Haskins he would put him out. There were usually though the thing usually the thing that keeps the young quarterback back from getting in the game is he plays to recklessly and turns the ball over but I don't know how case keenum would it have been a lot worse. In terms of turning the ball over then I mean isn't case keenum responsible responsible for all five of the turnovers I believe so I think he had three three interceptions in two yeah so you think Haskins can do a whole lot worse worse than that in terms of turning the ball over Chicago. Make a lot of teams look like that but the question I wanted to ask you though when I thought that that was something that he said during the broadcast instead sportscenter do you ever hear that in the broadcast a broadcaster saying flatly Jay gruden being fired. It's not a matter of if it's a matter of when is that something that you're used to hearing during a broadcast no. They're very rarely that declarative. They rarely say you got a bench this quarterback or you got a fire that guy which makes you wonder though if he's going to say on sportscenter say it live on the air a maybe you did. We have no idea I mean at some point during the game it would jump out to me if I've heard someone say before. I can't think of an analyst saying that during a game before now he was still in the booth because it was literally right after the game and it sounded like the ambient sound could also be game related late in the game. Maybe nobody was paying attention anymore because again instead Washington football team. That's a disaster but Chris also fell in love love with the name last night explained to me why it is that you've been talking about how pleasant the sound is were about deplorable. I learned two things last night about the redskins one. They're very reckless with how they prepare pair there gatorade. Did you guys see this clip of them. Stirring gatorade on the sidelines and the guy working for the redskins was using an unopened sleeve of cups as his plastic. That's that's how he was stirring. When Jerry couldn't have been he was it was just the mass consumption of a big tub of Gatorade and he was stirring it with Plastic Cup. You just ate a Tortilla off the grass that's true but it was so delicious. It smelled that smell good. At least that was delicious but I also learned that I wish everyone in sports had named aimed just makes me that makes me smile. I heard this guy made a play last night and it made me smile with time the hands of Jeremy Sprinkle from they I had a chance for it but it'll be a third and long and that was a nice throwback case. keenum sprinkled goes up the scene sprinkle. You've gotta come now. You gotTA catch that sprinkle getting some extended time because Jordan Reed has been dealing with a concussion Frankel had the last the last part is got me because I'm all with you guys sprinkle but that last is part yeah we worried about Jordan read it all. He keeps getting dinged up in a way that every time someone touches him he gets a concussion and now he can't play football anymore spring. Go I mean I'm worried week to week. It's telling me he's coming back and he's not I don't have anyone on my bench to replace him. I don't want to do and fantasies costing me. This Season Annecy Nightmare Jordan Reed reeds career might ruin sprinkles. GotTa go up and get that catch. That's right. He's got you too bye. Hey listen brain trauma all over the place Jordan. We might be done. He's really good when his brain doesn't hurt. Hey sprinkle makes that catch. Ah It's just tossed in there. It is you're right. It's so pleasant to hear all about sprinkle and stuff that you just sort of bypass the brain injury. We try to think of more fun lighthearted name that we could come up with like Steve. ice-cream Billy really likes that that stevie ice cream the isis or you'd be calling call again joints. Whatever one calls it again I ask you though do we care about Jordan reed read like it is a bit of an alarm going off. This is a person is a human being okay. When he is playing tight end he is excellent. He is impossible impossible to cover. He has big games for all those cruddy quarterbacks. The Daniel Snyder keeps throwing out there. He's been the chief weapon around which they build and it seems he's like he's getting concussions easier than the other people playing football and it feels like those concussions are stacking up on him in a way that makes them more prone to concussions to where it works tire. How old is he. Okay easy easy to say. I don't know what he's going on what he has going on in his personal life but I think of him as somebody who's pretty pretty young to be dealing with this. It's not like Jordan. Reed is out there like Antonio Gates. He's twenty nine years old. Do you care. Does anyone care yeah. He should retire. I care enough to say that. What do you have a big smile on your face because I'm looking for his welfare there. Give me credit you want credit from. Jordan reads concussion ease Jordan Reed. I'm looking out for you. You know go back to school like Antonio. Antonio Gates Antonio Brown. Let's give yourself a break. Give yourself a look at this picture here on Wikipedia yourself a break retire. Chris you want to join for my patio and the empire sound Tony Libertad already Nelson had goose egg unbelievable. So what are the odds money in the bank that guy normally that's Nelson's Ricky Nelson Sixty stugatz hands up if you remember Ozzie and Harriet but um up this is the Dan Le Batard show with his two guys on ESPN radio. If you missed any of our interviews go check him out on demand and the Dan Le Batard podcast is brought to you by the capital one venture card or an unlimited double miles on every purchase everyday capital one. What's in your wallet. Greg Cody has to go to the bucket it up of death here he hasn't suffered a punishment I don't think any of us have suffered punishment worse worse than the one that he suffered couple of weeks ago where we were putting cat food on his face. I feel like many people in audience simply. Don't know what cat food smells smells like what the consistency of it is what we were putting on his face was disgusting and it was a lot of it. It was an amazing amount. It's one of the most repulsive zip things we've ever done a week from today. I have to cut the big toe. ooh I'm looking forward to it. You have to cut his big toe nail. You have to cut the brake toenail yeah yeah. This is the second time I've done it and this is the first time it's been cut since the last time I did. It's very unpleasant. Is it makes you emotional thinking about it. Joked adopt New York tending to him. It's not just this is very what's happening around. Here is the cycle of aging where God aunts. When he talks to greg he just humors him by saying that's right? GRANDPA keep it moving and also he's grooming the old man now taking care of his nails like if he is a young baby that's true my great toenail is as thick as a seashell proud of your out of out of my toenails. O'Neil's particularly the great nail. Why would you be proud of that. What a strange thing to be proud of. It's not even the worst part about it. They also have this like yellowish terrible terrible. Yes wow I'll never forget it. In the longer they get. They begin to Curl Ford like talents. I really a great thing I just ate some Mongolian be. It's all unpleasant and I don't know why Greg Cody is proud of this. It's such an odd thing to be proud of that. You are growing. These hideous CEOS'd toenail. It's my punishment. I keep choosing it. You've chosen it twice. It is it is a bit vomit inducing. I saw a picture picture of one of your Great toenails on Instagram was deeply unpleasant. I was haunting Akanbi. Remember to use the method when you cut tailbacks. Are you guys worn out as worn out his I am of hearing Greg Cody talk about his Damn Lobos the the week get the grim reaper led. The crap can't save it. I know you're a bigger you know. There's a big big competition going on for envy Al Most. I have a tough decision. The front runner come on in here reaper yeah having having students fist-bump cheating as there always in cahoots all right so. I don't know what the teams are or the spreads are out of but Greg Cody how it is now reaching into the bucket of death. It's usually something that doesn't have anything good in it. We've arrived at by weeks. Jets forty niners by we aw death that always that double truck that. Oh what does that bucket plus death. I think that's it's the money bucket the money bucket so you get instant at the money buffalo. He's GonNa like this. You count up that fine money right. That's the fine honey. What are you. What are you sure you gotta make a decision about how much money all right reaper you only two dollars telling me what the rules are pulling up your mask. Do doing whatever that amount is plus three reaper. I got you hold on a second. Neither deny it's a two dollars cheaper her but hold on a second I do WANNA ruling of some sort because every day I go back there and we put dollars there and no one's collected this money in a long time and I've got to a story to tell a Greg cody expense that I have not told before that I'm going to tell for the first time before we make this decision on how much money is there is a true story and this is how much Greg Cody. He likes money. We have hold on a second before we get to. We have emerge story. Check it out Libertad AF dot shop shop and the likenesses of everybody here gets everybody some percentages on what it is that the merchant's store produces uses and greg cody as one of the members of the show gets a percentage when his stuff is sold and he is he is popular and he said to me the ball. You can just give my share to my son until I told him how much it was and you haven't heard what about it since I was going to be. He thought he stole I stole. Money is an absolutely true story. If those things private from surprising rising thing ever you did the right thing now now the the amount of money in this bucket is interesting because we have a lot of things that come up around here. You Know Valets people yes. Yes we do use this money sometimes to pay for things that come up so there's one hundred forty bucks a year. Oh wait a minute. I have no idea first of all like I thirty thirty three a federal crime of some sort using petty cash for things that they're not supposed to be used for. You've been using the fine money to handle. What do you did. Did you handle your own personal. Debt Roy's birthday cake or hey look man my mortgage. It's it's unbelievable. What are you guys talking about. How much there's there was so much more than a hundred and forty dollars in there. I know because I'm going in there every Dave with big house hitting Royce cake with seventy dollars seventy bucks I don't. I don't understand why we're not paying for that ourselves. It's a million bucket. We didn't know if there's going to be thing this year. Yeah we got this extra. That's your choice. You want the money okay. He wants the money one hundred forty dollars. I keep this money forty three and I keep this one the right so one forty three instant death yes. He's choosing instant death. That's amazing right. I didn't think the one hundred and forty dollars would be enough to buy in my mind. If it was more than one hundred I was going to take how much would have to be in that bucket for you. It's not one for every once what'd once in that money before they didn't spend it on taking drinks out here because what was in there was about a thousand dollars is have been spending that money very liberally like somebody had won a hell of a party because every damn day. I'm going in there with two and three and four dollars and we haven't gone into that fine bucket in about twelve months and more or less who is it been spent on. I WANNA know who feels comfortable enough to go into the fine in bucket and spend it personally as cash guys who is Louie had agreed birthday though off through a dog art. Are you surprised that one hundred and forty dollars was enough to buy greg cody an instant death. I mean you sit on the front end how much he loves money and told that story. I guess I shouldn't be surprised or not surprised by this story at his chosen the one forty three I do not so nice piece of change. Not let's go ahead and do it is time now for your favorite team rix levels Here's the head coach in prison of Football Operations Greg. Cody the leader one hundred and forty points live the entire league. This week was up our show on E._S._p._N. radio racist country.
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"Hey y'all Justin Richmond. Like all of us Rick Rubin has been thinking a lot about fairly early and few people on the planet understand fear in the same way as Rick's good friend. David Blaine David has made a career of pushing his mind and body to the limit with crazy public stunts. Like staying awake for sixty three hours while standing in a block of ice in the middle of Times Square or fast for forty four days while suspended thirty feet in the air and in Plexiglas Cube in London feats that blew my mind growing up so RIPTA. David might be a great person for you to hear from about facing fear. Obviously this conversation isn't about music but it does touch on one of Rick's other great loves magic. When he was a kid studied magic and since then Magic's become so much more than just slide of hand for him. He's idea pulling something out of nothing in his music making so make sense that he would turn to one of the best living magicians for words of wisdom in this conversation. David Blaine runs through his most legendary public stunts and explains in excruciating detail. What he went through physically and emotionally at each step. He also explains his relatively simple formula for getting through physical and psychological stress. The secret it turns out that we can all handle a lot more than we think. This is broken record liner notes for the Digital Age. I'm Justin Richmond. Here's Rick Rubin and David Blaine who connected recently on zoom. The the reason that I wanted to talk to you is. I'm feeling a collective fear in the air. I feel like I feel like I'm not feeling my fear. So much is. I'm feeling everybody's fear is a cloud of fear. Emir started thinking about different times in my life. Been afraid of something or people. I know who have insights into fear and I remember when I was learning to spend time in the ice in an ice bath that the longest I could ever stay in was a few minutes until I did it with you when I did it with you. Your perspective on it. Open my mind and helped me deal with the fear of staying longer in You. Talk me through it and in that experience If opened me up to conquer fear so I wanNA talk to you. In general about the idea of conquering sears. Sound good it's great. What's said tell me a little bit about your relationship to fear. Well you know I am. I mean I guess my. My outlook on everything was already. My mother conferences kid but when she was really sick when she was dying instead of focusing on the difficult ardor sad angel art. She looked at the beauty in everything so she didn't focus on herself and complained so she she made death very poetic very beautiful which I think is like one of the best gifts. Give to your kid. Just that immediately made me NA afraid of the unknown which is that but as far as I was always pushing my body to do things that were like goal and probably dangerous since I was five years old. And here's the symbol formula for it. Simple formula is just. Don't just jump into the unknown. You go step by step by step by step slowly so if you go like if I was to hold my breath for twenty minutes. I'd be afraid that it's GonNa have cardiac arrest. I'll be debt but you don't start like that circe. Why did three and a half minutes kid? There's people that are free. Divers have done this amount of time. Let me train the best people. Let me slowly build a resistance or tolerance and understand the pain that I'm going to go through so I could process it. And fight it. So my outlook corona and obviously. I'm not a doctor. King gives advice spot the way I look at it. Is You have to do the things that you know our best so cleaner Diana. You don't eat products. That create mucus like dairy processors or breads or things like that. You have ginger garlic you outs. You know. Sixteen ounces of water before every anything that you drink you keep yourself hydrated so you do all the things you can really be ready for the fight because fear like let's say you're an has manic which. I was kiss and have a smaller than average lung capacity. It's scary thing. I'm a coronas. Couldn't give me it pneumonia types. You know in my lungs could shut down so what I WANNA do is if I was a smoker which I'm not I wouldn't talk cigarettes because why do anything. They can make the virus that much more effective in its path to destroy. So that's number one number two. Is He follow all the rules? Don't go near people is much as you can buy will void contact other than the people that you're warranting. Obviously in for me the other thing that I really like about which is I would say if you also studied in point of view is and I'm not saying that this is right or wrong such as my perspective. But the reason we don't want the virus spread is quickly as it's spreading. Because you don't know you have symptoms you. You're not aware of it. You don't feel anything often and you're very contagious right so you don't want to spread everywhere that we couldn't fight it. It's just the wrong. Want a hospitals to suddenly become flooded. Which is what's happening in then. Everybody's losing hospital beds. The respirators in its shutdown. So not that you want to fear the virus you WanNa do the right precautions to protect not even just yourself everybody around you so I think knowledge is basically the best way to overcome fear now as a kid my mother the only furiously Dave is when she saw not approaches because of robots at Rice but when he saw like spiders or something buddy how so I was always afraid of Little bugs not outgrow spies. Afraid of every other little so magician. Friends would come over. We'd be brainstorm magic and like I see a bug jokic right and I wasn't so to get over that fear I would have people come over. Boggs insects spiders talk. You know everything and I play with them. That's temporarily getting over it. So Affleck happened and I really over my last year which have been set certain insects so I took my brother too but sauna and He's the most afraid of every big kiss. Teach them how to get over that but anyway we go to Africa and we're in these little camps and with the guy who died. Who's he was the lion man? He goes out with the lines. They actually looks like a lion and he brings a roll of toilet paper. No weapons of calls out wildlife attack him. You can see it on Youtube. He would throw the toilet paper like fake. Though in the lines that jumped this guy grew up in the bush with the lions so he and hippos he would scare that is presence was unbelievable but anyway so that night after we went out with alliance and crossed out with them and she plays with the you know down while they're eating zebras. Really unbelievable but that night. I went to bed and I gave my brother a ice fishing day that I had some really serious high-tech which I shouldn't have done. So he hears something walking around his and then nighttime really mostly around his and I just assume it's elephant island but my brother looks through way and it's a hippo just circling against any. Here's the hippos deadly animals and that they'll just shop in half so I'm brother doesn't sleep the whole day since looking to this thing and boat was so what happened with me is bombing this ten. I'm being careful because even if it's an Alpha more you don't WanNa get anything in this little town low and I put my on my phone light on and I look up. And there's thousands of bugs all over the top of my tat. I'm like okay. We're in this together and I realized that those insects or my friends Jokic and from that move without insects. Sometimes it is just like a flute thing often. I think it's like you know the process. Trying to understand the information to get over arch and to learn until accelerate. So it's like and I also look at things as a challenge so like even with my daughter when she takes shower in the morning we use. I would tell her okay. Let's crank up the coal. Just want her. So when when over friends won't go in the ocean because the oceans older family she goes right in and it's just the mindset of like I can overcome this you know so it's and and that translates across the board so whether you're running as hard as you can are holding your brother you know I it standing up in one place for seventy three hours things like that. You have endorsed slowly build a tolerance at an understanding of what you're really doing. The research study with a smartest people that you can. And and that's the best way the you know. I think so to work on facing the fear in the most diligent efficient by. How'd you deal with the When you're in it I'll give you an example one time I was Bodysurfing in Venice with a mutual friend of ours and the waves getting big and it seemed normal at first and then the ways we're getting bigger and bigger and it was a pretty big day to begin with Benway's get bigger and we're out next. Look here the waves started crashing over the pier. Really big and I remember our friend look at me and saying you know Mike. This be in trouble. And that was the last thing he said and then he was gone. And then I'm sort of in the drop zone and just waves are crashing on me and came really close to ground and and I remember thinking I know the worst thing I can do is panic so I know panic. Panic will only hurt in this situation. But when you're being held underwater by waves will come for breath in a wave crashes you even if there's a conversation that goes on between. I know I'm not supposed to panic. This isn't going to help me. And the other voices. There's no where where Anneke hard to control. I think you know know number. One Rule of the twenty one laws of the Samrai's accept everything. Exactly the way it is and I think even in the worst situation we panic and go crazy and let it you. Won't you won't win that battle so you kind of have to accept what the situation is. And then in a very careful and clever way Dr outmanoeuvring but without fighting it. Because you're never going to beat the Osa you know so so you have to kind of smooth into it and have the faith that you can be on there for a little more than you think you can relax. Go go with a little bit. Which is the only option. Have you ever had that? Come up like in the midst of a challenge. Have you come up of what do I do now? Every time I'm holding my breath for a really long breadth hold. My heart gets really weird. Does these strange things. And that makes you get more focused on the heart and it doesn't help so I've learned over the years even when pushing to the extreme. You're just accept it in and go with it so you know that that that's the best thing that I've learned went on pushing to those extreme places it gets a little out of control. Let's talk about each one of the things that you've done and then in each case must moments though you know so when I did the first thought was buried alive. It was deny- dive free of the chance through and colluded bill collusion. We can go to central park. Bury yourself you'll sneak out and then come back month later as let's the point that I find it that I'm going to really do it. And instead of doing it under dirt like the curious. Obstinacy A see-through boxer. They're thinking like you know I've seen my mom lane of bed. Not Moving for a very long period of time I can at least slaying little coffin for a week and I was right and I'd also rented. Artha side fasted as a kid I had done. You know those things so understood. The that's all doable. So I- fast and for a week before buried alive just to clean everything out. Because I knew I wasn't able to go to the bathroom. Are the number two in the whole thing and I put a coffin. Him Bills Living Room. Bribe'S I was sleeping in his room by Miss Kitchen at the time. I put a coffin in his living room. That I got in Queens and I started practicing. Just sleep in the coffin was again. This isn't so hard and I would stay there for a couple of days and I learned Tennesseans one of those little bag but I did the whole process and I was clean systems. Clean ready to go stunts about this study about to start and I was clean water bill that type of thinking. It doesn't make sense to him so he's like here. Have this gives me a drink? That was called a mango Mama. So I don't know why I listened. take this bill. I don't think so. He's like a P it out because I had fucker. Stupi side drink mango ball and I do my first thing stuck. I get buried alive in the middle of New York City. See through the whole thing and no way out for a week right away like eight hours later. I'm like Ono and I have to go to the bathroom but a number two and Rick Zero. Week I had the whole it was the warriors. Anyway you know starts I do miss you know and it was difficult but that were getting used to it things that you don't think about like how am I gonNa do a number one. There's people staring at me the whole time. Day and night became really crowded. So it's it's like when people are looking at you around the clock and the P it's difficult you don't think about those things in your practicing in the coffin by herself so what I would have to do beginning as I would close my eyes and I would just pretend I was in front of the bathroom. Take me like an how I'd be able to do the number one again. No number two the whole time but then eventually by like they three I'd be waving and smiling like no but so no but southern buried alive. That's done I did it and I always look at it. I can do that like nothing. Easy tomorrow so okay. So the next stunt was the block of ice training for that get in ice mass all the time the idea for it first of all After buried alive I was like on an airplane. Like coming back with somewhere really nice and I just started thinking about an insect In a in a piece of Amber Mike how cool that look old thing and I was like maybe I could do something like that or like a big piece of ice in and put in the middle of new. York's I look frozen in a block of ice obviously would be cut around me two pieces so step one was. I went to an ice locker and just got in the ice soccer to see how much I could endure. Which is a nightmare whereas down quickly stent to was adult in ice igloo. I just blocks of ice together like regular ice car together and it's like oh. This isn't so bad because the ice is against you but it's enough away that it's actually like an Igloo Fax. He could handle it when I did the real block of ice. I got the ice them in iceberg in Alaska so it was frozen and cold temperatures. So it's really see through. Did that block of ice when we brought it in. There's a couple of things I hadn't thought you know those unknown things that you don't think about number one it keeps tripping on over and over which is kind of a weird form of just drives you out of your mind number two. You can't fall asleep because if we lean into the ice get frostbite in. Come off that part of your face. Whatever it is number three standing up for that entire duration sixty three hours. I practiced it leaning and stuff like that but now that I'm in the only thing that was to my vantage was it was November. Twenty seven November twenty nine thousand and it was a warm Novembers so the air that was coming through you know sixty eight degrees which created the drop it. It also really kept it. Not so bad. Foresee Isis radiate. Now be worst part of it that I could have never thought about it. At that time was sleep deprivation plus torture meaning standing up the entire time. Nothing to lean on the ice radiating the cold against you in Hallucinatory State. Because you're trying to sleek 'cause their body knows the bill immune system functioning need the sleep but you can't go to sleep because you know if you go to sleep it's GonNa be really bad so while you're in the situation. I can stay awake right now for five days if I had a few people helping in that situation. Berry Berry fiscal. What happens is your brain touches into your worst fears so your brain goes into whatever your most afraid of and it puts that all over you started seeing spiders crawling all over my body and all these weird things because your brain is trying to trick the other part of your will trying to stay awake to make you go to sleep and when you don't go to sleep start having dreams and nightmares but your eyes are completely oak. So my eyes were wide open and I was having this insane. Hallucinogenic dream light wallow break state but not knowing if it was a dream or if it was fake and your brain is slipping away and the only thing that you get you along. I think is I had support from a couple of people that I loved and trusted. And they're like you're gonNA be okay and it was enough for me to think that maybe they were right when the guy started cutting through the ices the chase. I tried to grab the chainsaw. I know I didn't know what it was. And you know that one because of the sleep that race always say. I would never ever do that again. Ever by the way little things that go wrong as you have a catheter. Which truckers to which is like a condom with us to coming off of it one of the PA's working on the stunt didn't know what he was vacuuming underneath the water thing and he hits that hose and like. Oh you know but it in your brain is already on a so. It's like exaggerated bid. I'll give you one example of what happened so you know. It was twenty four seven in Tom. Scores of people. I mean three days but people could continuously come tonight and somebody was in front of the crowd but one of the people you lock onto you feel comfortable one of the people asking by one time. It was like you know it was day three last day. It was supposed to end around ten o'clock or something like that as like. What time is it and he said went. I think it was like around four four something so he went four five some four means. I have a six hours. I think I can do this so I wait for as long like I wait for hours because I don't want to ask that question again. After waiting for hours I look at somebody and I go. What time is it? And it's the same guy and I didn't even realize that and he goes for six of my bought. You know the native American Indian a lot of people use sleep deprivation but in a controlled environment to go to that hallucinogenic green lights stay and it is incredible because there is a part of it. That's like one of my favorite journeys of ever take not recommended anybody effort but there is a part of it. It's like wow you know we we able to explain what you were seeing. Feeling everything voices talking to through people appearing in the ice everything that you can imagine that you're dreaming up just the and everything goes through your mind your body. And it's it's hyper real is it's like having dreams for your weight and nightmares you. Do you have cameras on you? The whole time. Yeah yeah the whole time. Have you ever gone down and yeah I'm just look at it? It's scary miser? Like really really really scary. Scary footage wondering how much of your perception was. What was actually happening. Do you know what I'm saying like are do things that you imagine that happened. That didn't know Russel's yeah for sure. But but like lots of people like Mike my brother and my best friend Josie people that were there. Were looking at me and they they. They knew that this was this was not make. It was pretty scary bought at the same time when I reflect back. I would never do that one again. But there's something about that was like one of the most incredible and scary but beautiful states that I've never been we'll be right back with more of Rick's conversation with David Blaine. Hey these crazy times. We're in parents are stuck inside trying to work. Kids are stuck inside with us. 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You use the fan to create wind to blow the car and move the car forward right awesome and do. Do you want more toys like that right from the Horse's mouth. Do your part to encourage your children to be innovative and creative thinkers. They won't believe what they can build an accomplished with key Rico. And when they're finished watch their confidence be as big as their small. Kiwi Co is redefining. Play with hands on projects that build confidence creativity and critical thinking skills. There's something for every kid or kid at heart. Kiko get your first month free on. Select Crates Kiko Dot com slash broken record. That's K- I W I C O dot slash broken record. We're back with Rick Rubin and David Blaine. So what was the one after ice? Abbott is was two thousand O Vertigo when I stood on the pillar two thousand two Brian Car. Which once again you know we had these things to handle things that would come up and I was able to. Wasn't that off that one. I still started to hallucinate. Just because I I think standing up in one place for a long time plus the stress of the body not sleeping all that stuff. You were really high. Probably like ninety feet. I wanted it to be a hundred and then I trained to jump. Which was my favorite art. Ever jumping on hundred foot cardboard boxes which not into an air bank which was my favorite part. I trained and was so specific and knew I was gonNA jump off in exactly Amar but because I had a mike on and they opened us. I couldn't tell everybody stopped with adding these boxes and they all got freaked out because I the buildings behind me when I look because I was the loosening. They started to look like animal heads. I would see like a lion and I was like wow. I didn't know those buildings shape blank lines. And they'd be like their fathers and the other to jump into the box made this huge thing anyway so that kind of upset but the other one upset me was on the ground the live. I WANT. I said no matter. What if I don't get to the record guy's not hold me out period because I want to go through the records and it like cracked me start black about the blackout and one of my best friends in the front and heels? Get Him because he was so freaked out so they jumped in me out before I got like the number is the number is what's important on all the stunts. The numbers are so important. And that's part of it also is used numbers use numbers to get there like element equate this to do. I'm going to get to halfway halfway. I'm going to go backwards and I have this much this much of an eight and you start working backwards by numbers and it really helps. Even when I'm running Mike Training from running around the loop central park you know the six point two miles is but what I do is i. Count the steps of Mike Okay. It's actually forty. Four hundred feet. Steps are campus steps to get around and keep going is there. It's a numbers seeking halfway. Start become against that. That's another thing that helps me. Get focused is numbers yet. Really interesting numbers. I have a technique that I'll I'll share with To to prolong things and I find that it. It works in You can do it with when you're exercising but I also use it. When I'm in Ice Stub let's say I can do. Forty slow breaths when I'm in the ice at forty slow breath is like on a typical day. Maybe five between five and six minutes and If you change the way you count instead of counting every breath is now I now I use the number one for each of the first four. Brett's admit I use the number two yup for the next four Brett's yes yup ends great and after you've done it for a while getting to the number forty and if you don't allow yourself to do math which is a real key to it. You can't learn how yourself to figure out what no what did he will. But something about keeping the numbers lower. Even though you're doing it longer in your mind yup you haven't been in that law. Your there's part of You. The brain part of it doesn't kick in of feeling like you're getting towards the end so it's good. It's a good technique. And if you really think about like even when we pushed it out at the highest level where only pushing like forty percent so you really Max out your like sixty percent hypothetic estimated numbers but the the Max out would be your brain Rice out which nobody ever gets to what I'm saying. So if you can trick your brain you can override your body and feel the pain of wanting to quit or shutdown by fooling yourself. That's exactly you don't you don't. You're not as the wear of authorities so soon it takes away one of every. That's Rick I do everything everything and by the way the only other thing that I add to it as I never stop at the mark I always have to go at least one over always because you train yourself to never quit before. He gets the goal of a lot of friends. They'll run my. Oh let's run a five K and stop it. Three miles on my. He just had to go that little extra big. You got it and then go more. Because I'm going to have to do the real task. You have that in your mind like I'm not gonNA quit so not just pass it. So it's a numbers game okay. So now we're up to be so you've done the pillar and you say it's easy but still standing on your feet. For how many hours was it? That was only thirty six hours. You're standing ninety feet in the air. So there's the frame for that output. A flowerpot lived on the sixteenth floor of a building in New York. I put a flower pot in a little corner of the roofing to stand there all the time to stare down scientists. Let's say you had to do this. You had to stand up on a book. What's the big deal? If the stand up on a book for you can do it right. So just wish. That book is up one hundred feet. It changes your brain but really if you're committed now cabinet stand on the platform for thirty six hours. You're just you're just committing to it. So you have to override the brain's impulses and you know this is too much it just got it fixed scientists. I'm built on that one up so we are just stand on flowerpots. Luke's by the way folks on time. The Flower Shabbir. On the top of that was earns. What's after the killer as two thousand to two thousand three? I went to London in forty four days in a box that that one once again. I I'd probably pushed it a little too much but once you get over that point once you get where you lose all ten tation all sense you know everything that all of your dote means or Dorf. Everything goes away. And you're just on the service steady serotonin level wherever you start to see colors. You've never imagined the blue you cry from your ceiling. Wow when you see somebody smile just a stranger both cry. It's the connective state. Where where you have no. If you enter the spiritual you complete lead the flesh behind and that. That is a yeah. That's that's an experience at one of the most important other than everything related to my book. That's one of the most important experience my life is attributed to the fact that you weren't in other ones we're talking about is you're more uncomfortable is more of a sense of aid is the forty four days was more distant operation than a discomfort. I think that right I mean he starts to feel pain. The basically if you read any book about extended fasting Kinda hits notes like it about a month or twenty eight days you really do start to have the sweet taste in your mouth so I was drinking water the whole time but around dates twenty eight. I started questioning harmony and everybody there is like bill. I was like I would pour the water because at a tube and it was periods through also is like no minerals. No nothing I would have to combat at our drinking. I think like the people that supported this London Channel Four. I was thinking state. They must want this to keep going. So they're spiking my water glucose. You know I've tasted side may harmony bang bill by brother. Pour the water down to my say tasteless right now. There's sugar in. It accord the drink a mouse and. I think that they were all in August. I get like a random stranger. Let's bring him all the way up former water bowed asset. Macao water so old. The the guidebook things of what happens during the fast really did actually happen. Exact the information I had on how long I could do it for. Came from a physiologist at NASA. So he was you know they want to protect the astronauts so they do all the due-diligence all the research they look into the terrible records World War. Two things that most people wouldn't go into morally. It's our ethically so so he would really just to save actions. I say okay. How long can human actually go without food along with just water and they had really accurate. Specific notes of what could be tolerated. It pretty much worked out exactly as I soon. And what was it? The most difficult parts to that so many amazing things have been at the say. If I was doing that fast by myself it would have been impossible. Which is why. Put IT IN PUBLIC. So public all sides visible. I knew I would just have to do it. There's no cheating because you're you're exposed as a guest but if I was trying to buy myself forget the only real difficulties is little things that you don't think about like after that amount of time we've noted Fast Greenbelt my system your body's processing I held held there was barely but I help but number two in for the entire time. Obviously most of sweat through your breath and all that stuff in any you. Override it and you don't have to go over again at that race and then the only other real real difficulty I think was busy. Started become really weak. Your you know your body goes into this sort of you very stable very minimalistic and all that stuff. But your heart's moving differently is I guess from you. Know you're you're you're eating. Start to your organs. Bone mass index decrease thirty. Three saw. What happened is you know the Londoners not belonging to the media start to make this ordered forty four days this stories people would like fly like toy helicopters with cheeseburgers on Bevin bomb People would like in the middle of the night like shoot paint balls at the box and it was really cool looking like this color months by. It was like that noise. 'cause you don't think about that way. Echoes Wake up the slack. And it's but that's not the difficult part difficult part is I think around day thirty seven when I started to get. The heart started to feel like it was going to. It wasn't right right. 'cause it's decrease in size by a third or whatever it is that laws and we have those records. Afterwards I went to the house. We had the New England Journal. Medicine Oxford generally studied stuff. I gave the results in science just because most people that do these things like striking or hunger strikes but anyway so around that time around eight thirty seven thirty eight. A heart starts going. It starts getting really really difficult because you think that you're going to collapse. You know you get dizzy everything you do. Any movement and my mother passed away when I was young but Foresee died. She said to me God is love at that was the last war is that she said when she died in my arms was like I said most difficult must beautiful basically giving me but so it around that exact time I was like I said I had said mom. If you think I should keep going give me a sign. Our Bridge was in front of me over there. These could start young. David David I see them right when I said that I'm saying that exact moment in they have a rolled up wife thing right and they open it up and they start walking down towards me when they get closely they keep open up. They open all the way they're holding it like three of them. I think and it says God is love. It's like wow a third crying of it so then I and then you know. Those kind of signs is simple Winston whatever it is bass enough to keep going or if it or if the energies out they are in in you know energy is never goes something she put out there. That just happened to connect at the right moment. You know those types of things so I kept going push the endings you know like. I said it was the in. So it's like when you get the chance in the vertigo ahead at two in the box when you get the chance to just really watch the sun. Go up over the sky. Watch it a hallway up watching a whole way down and all the way around. Watch the river go up and down. It's amazing that we never get to do them. Real life administers is done with the stunt. I was in the hospital recovering. Somebody sent me a box of Harrods food. I shouldn't have be in for a couple of weeks. That's the most dangerous part it's the repeating syndrome. Which is the paper that we published was about. That is soon as the doctor who thought I was also cheating by the way and Bill wanted me to take glucose vitamins but children said no bill and I was. Right is my body's victims of starvation mode so it was in the metabolic rate change to protect but anyway so as soon as I started that like taking from the box taking the Chris Eating. You know the Bagels as soon as you do that. Animal State Returns. Everything changes then. It's like you're not a spiritual art of this music. Art Fades away very fast. So you go from like this this state of like pure war. There's no body. There's nothing the colors. The win the sky song the herbs in back into the you know the the normal world so it is something that I wish everybody could experience some is it is it and I think that's why those yogis amongst by do those long fast because they find that place for Serotonin is writing. They're brain levels known Barkan. Snow doke means a solid steady. Say and you and you find something that you could never. You could never imagine or explain what was after the after the glass box Two thousand three after that was the dust that drowned alive. The water thing. That was my favorite by far. Just the favourite across the board. I started holding my breath when I was five years old. I was on the swim team at my feet. Turn Band Single Mother Brooklyn. Ymca all the kids beating Mesa instead. Assuming like normal like them because I would just swim straight and I suddenly. I'm able to keep up because I'm not breathing and I start going back and forth and I start really. Wow could do coaches. I don't do that as I can. I can do it and I and I did do it. And then the older kids would come to see me lap. Sit Out breathing. Alice in then they would compete against me so go underwater and beat them all the older older kids side. Say listen you can go up and down as many times as the wrong. I'll stay under the whole time so I was able to while they went up and down as able to last like six of bears but they didn't know take enough going up and down and doing that. It's not as efficient sustained right. Which is what I was doing. So the breath all began bear in then I loved it and then I discovered Houdini at that age as well as readings underwater king yet a record three and a half minutes so young teen. I was able to do three and a half minutes. No problem I I'd get out of the pool blackout by the way didn't know that that's what was going on in then. Had the idea of putting a sphere shaped declaring in the middle of Lincoln Center and just living there like a human aquariums. I've been but like is a is like A. Yeah just Melania and seeing long stay so what was the longest that somebody was submerged underwater continuously with seven days? I spoke to a guy that had the record that lived under lake and he gave me all tips and thanks EXC state under five days. He's like here's what we need to do. So I kind of listen. Gyms studied what we were saying and then just did. It didn't anticipate what would happen to the hands and feet that you know. It's pretty. Pain is pretty intense because All the oils protect you leave. And then you know. The wrinkled extraordinarily beyond anything conceivable NASA and the pain that cost. Wipe it with them. Being Bat wrinkled just from expansion let stuff is crazy drinking liquids through to you know. Stay there seven. Oh another thing. You didn't anticipate son. That's fear like a magnifying glass. Big piece of glass fill water son's going to it actually burned the whole metal walkway hind out. So I I was in there for a week. My back was burnt but like not just burnt like read. I mean like like burnt burnt burnt and it stayed like that for like seven months or some you know just like it was in the pain assistant saying that. You don't think about those things and your water. So China negates it on some level until after with where did where did you end up with the bristled While I did actually with oxygenated twenty minutes and two seconds into straight breath holding I have gotten up to seven. Forty seven record was nine eight again. The guy had a huge advantage or may not the matters but he was very skinny. Very Tall. Tom. You know in in in his lung capacity total lung capacity was almost apple. Who was pretty extraordinary sunny. That's that doesn't matter but anyway I thought somehow what I saw was by living in the sphere. Just lie decided to do the scare before by Living. There would acclimate become condition. But also I thought that ice by not eating for that amount of time metabolic rate would slow down and suddenly be able to hold my breath much longer. That's what I was hoping for but it does doesn't really why started cracking stuff away so it doesn't really work like that. Then I went back trained. The Bureaucracy Jin hypothetical record at that time was ten minutes. No real visuals on its. I started training to static apnea breath holding oxygen. So I got my first. Try and add a bunch of friends. There that word up nor basketball surging doctors owners when they saw that I was under for fifteen minutes. Nothing they pulled me out because in their mind is like the body candidate order that that's not also and I was like. Why did you do that? Spine in came in with pulmonary expert with telemetry and everything attached. I had done a twenty minute and two seconds breath. Hold before the Oprah One which seventy four twenty minutes in to second breath heart rate dropped it a beats per minute and they've never seen that and so they pulled me out once again. I was like why he do that. They were like 'cause you're about to go into cardiac Cardiac DEBT I was like perfectly fine. The body does things it adjusted adapts. And I don't know if there's something to just accepting the situation riding through the Alps but it was. It was pretty amazing so when I had to do the world record which Tom Z. Posted right before I mean he went on Regis killing it to sixteen thirty two from hypothetical. Thirteenth Nasdaq okay. Got Analysis so I got twenty so I felt like when I do override. Be Okay getting to the seventeen sixteen thirty two in Longworth fold. What is what are the phases of what's going on mentally you want to? Ideally it silly but you WanNa keep your eyes closed. You WanNA do your your brain takes a lot of energy so you WanNa Kinda minimize on everything just to preserve. Oh to want to shut everything down as much as possible that I do is I just I. I used to be Al Bank of names visit. All different places absorbs drift onto the ocean going into the abyss of the oceans. Kind of go all over them when so when I did it on stage and stuff like that much show. I didn't do that move. I go upside down but going down. I realized this Dini's through it upside down and I realized why I think he was doing this. Because if you think about the way mammals that are underwater creatures. They big breath in. They died this way. So if you think about it when you're upside down at first. Your lungs aren't forcing the air out there forcing it's that physician is going into lung so it's like. Ibm upside down in is a much easier position. Hold your breath. The only getting their takes energy even getting out of it. When I'm upside down in the water tank I kinda relaxed on the skirt asleep. Knock go to sleep. I mean go to that place just didn't make sense. So what was the last one will after that? When I got really cocky and Mike trainer working on it's like can never do a stunt that you'd have to prepare for you need to do it and understand what you're doing. I did this upside down thing and I figured I'd done like six hours of Sagawa's thing I can do sixty hours upside down to six hours. I've been dry upside down for. I like you know nightmare among side down anyway that that was a disaster of disaster. Shut down for a long time. Did stop national that with the electricity whereas in a Tesla Coil. Seventy three hour standing up which was really hard as expansion of the ankles start for risk through the metal chain mail. Faraday seat I was wearing and you know one time and I had electric water. Our strength spitted out the ARK it. The water went for Lasted from my heart. And even I think I'd burn marks on my toes so that that was a really really difficult one in the last one I did at my daughter was born like not doing anything anymore. Like this done so I just went back to the magic stuff. Thought something I've been working on. It's been that has been so fun. Can Amazing Right now. I'LL REC- we're just working out dreaming about playing with it. Thank you but there is one that I love this. The opposite it's not about you know survive on it. It's more about the opposite. End the best more about our tree and beauty and things like that. Hopefully they still even in the shows that I've seen I've seen you do stuff. We still end up being in a tank water for a really long time right. Well Yeah I mean I. Can't I love those things I love and to me? How's that magic me? That's the real magic to me. It's like the bodies capable doomed things that we can't even imagine that the body was standard. Do that's magic. A human can go without air for twenty minutes and two seconds are now the records twenty four minutes three seconds. That's magic as the body. Do that any of the things that you've done Just think about any techniques or anything that you've learned that are helpful in terms of people who were facing struggle. I think rule number one is accept everything just the way it is so as well number one and then try everything in your power to understand and to solve for what the best possible approach to fixing the situations. I think a lot of it starts with like correcting little things that you can manage. Ourself Beautiful Ben. Thank you for telling me stories. Thank you thanks again. David Blaine for jumping on Zoom Polish. Rick gave his latest special the magic way aired on ABC earlier this month check on ABC DOT COM for details. Broken record is producing help from Jason Gambro meal about Lia Rose Matt Loboda Martine Gonzales pushing industry. I think he's expecting beats. I'm just in Richmond. Thanks for listening.
Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3) 190430
"Whoa. Perfect. Perfect. He do it. We're travis. Yes. Have you heard of this beach life festival thing? Oh, here we go life. Yeah. Zig over Redondo beach, isn't that? Not. Yeah. That's north LAX. You gotta get the water customs, or what's beach life in Redondo. And so so festival. I guess. Okay. Music festival. I guess is like show for people. Don't feel I drive it all the way. Go hana. It's ten minutes away. Very nice. Very nice. Drive down the street. But just look at the list for this the bigger name artists than than than Ohana does. So you got Hala Dana point. Oh, Dana point. That's where it travels night hung out and that's country. All right now. No, no, no. They had Eddie Vedder a couple years ago. They've had a bunch of guys who do you got this one? Let's see my boy, Chris is this Jason Miranda's performing let your guy got us. My guy Willie Nelson you go. Where's it at the Redondo at the new air, maybe down at the beach, or is it at the the Civic Center, right? There is it they built like a new think so built they built a new Civic Center in in like, Manhattan beach, Redondo area. That's a little far for me. Oh, can you crack local? He's from Orange County. Thank you may not know, you're not born and raised. But you live there. So therefore you've taken on the mentality. Those people. True. They don't cross the six oh five if they get sick. So fifty five. I was about to say thank you to the six. Oh five. They get starts to scratch. What's going on? Yeah. They wanted. It was going on GPS you work. Are you? Sure. There are roads this exact date. I wait a minute. We don't something's wrong. Try to set some instant Twitter reaction Jesse at you ain't down on Twitter says give keesa. So he can wake up. You. You gotta wake up there doing their bit. Let's go, but you can't wait key up. Travis. He's Doppler fifty four degrees. Cloudy little moist out there. It's national honesty day key, be honest. I've been working is presented by sprint kadewe been very honest about you. Sure what him some bars right there. Yes. That is cool solely cognitive do. Fool and stay in school. There is a loose pig. Running around in. You're listening to k in Los Angeles. Peak voiding capture in Illinois in Illinois town, running around huge peak by really, no, you're not you're here in LA. You're not running studio. I'm not talking about you. Chris. Yeah. So a lose p Illinois town has been invading capture for months. Yes. Really large and has become the unofficial mascot dubbed as pork chop. Now. So they are running pork chop rows. C? See Chris he did that. I didn't do it can do that. He's my friend. You're more stuff pork chop to me. But yeah. So they're running around trying to capture this peak and the Ottoman contributed be to catch a pig. It's not like, it's a FOX meaning. I can't imagine. They're fast fast, but they could be slippery. Yeah. And on top of that, they run in the woods and stuff like that. So you know, he's gotta be. And get away. I've never thought of pig in the lucid creature. It could be me. But a pig just running around. You know, what would you do if you saw a pig running around the town shoot it? What will you get ready to have? Down. Pigs done terrorizing. It's not a killer. Pig. That's not true. I used to rate you ever been to Catalina Keyshawn or traffic. Yeah. The bore me. I told you to go to Kathleen. Years ago in years ago when you go camping you go up to heal. They had wild boars we say, what can they do L Z? They can come and sniff off through your tent, and and try and get everything. So then what they did they invited a bunch of hunters over about ten years ago and just cleaned him out and got rid of them still there. I think no they're gone got buffalo there you thinking of buffalo Buffalo's still there. Yeah. Little Chris's up there running around. All the pigs. Yeah. We'll worse different potato different parts of them are just wonderful. The the rump. So yeah, they be noise town. So they have a unsuccessfully attempted to corral the peak in the pig is often burning. Somebody's gotta go get it. I don't understand how pig can get loose. That happens. We have one in the studio that's keys headline of the day. That's how I knew it was gonna end it was going to end with something like that. All right. This is Roger where you're going to have to take over this. Because I know that the game of thrones people were very very upset about the fact that the episode was dark floors in the entire thing was shot in darkness. Yes, they spent a they spent like eleven days shooting thing. But it was the the the war with the night came. Right. Was that what you call it the fight scene? The better winter fall. Yes, was the name of it linger dragons, no we're involved some. But there was a lot while watching it on my TV. I thought it was just my kipah Justin the settings because it was appearing in and it was difficult to see LCD to experience the same trouble. It didn't bother me honest during game of thrones. There's a battle scene that takes place at night and people were upset because it was too shot so dark that he couldn't really see a great deal. And there was a guy keeshonds complex. You didn't even know he was in the scene. Now personally, Travis I'm ignore Raja's. Did personally he don't like black people. I like I like the fact he was shot dark. I had difficulty seeing because it made me feel a little bit more. Like, I was actually there. Exactly. Because that's what it would have been like a time period. It's not like it was well let you know. It's like your Friday at night. There's not street might sell side. This is kinda what it would look like would did Fabian say one of the producers on their he made him some sort of thing about the compression quality of the pick sales of HBO's streaming system on HBO. I was gonna ask you what network. What are you streaming it? Or were you watching it over the air? I was watching over the air. So I don't what he's rush on the air. So yeah that that doesn't hold up. All right. Listen, people still loved it. You start a video clip of the bar completely full of people drinking watching game of thrones. Not again a bar not a draft bar. She killed the Nike. They got little. They just want a national championship. Bronze. You saw the video. A bar jumping up and down. Why would I because I'm presuming with TV this show watch it in my house because I want to hear what's going on. If then a bar. It's going to be no, even if people are trying to watch it sooner me noisy. I would assume that they had the volume up to the point in which you can still have a murmur and here was going on. But if you're willing to go out the house. Mind go to a bar. What's Gable throws? Chances. Are you in the like minded people wanna hear what's going on? So the same sort of thing. It's not going to happen to turn to the people talking. You're not doing it right away. Oh, no. I don't even get him, man. But you can steal it. You know parties she does a Mason in Ireland. I game of thrones update or something better house. No on the air. Yeah. She has she took out the giant big screen that we used to watch the game. Just gave a throws people came over and the on. It's it's a fantastic show social component of it. I guess that everybody's fit. I just it's got. No, no, the shacks not interested style. Not interested. Yeah. No, no. You don't know if you're interested. I do know one. No. When I see damn bird with wings, or whatever you call. It kept dragging. Is we did a poll yesterday? Of course, what was more satisfying this weekend of injuries or game of thrones? In a game of thrones came in at forty eight percent, that's tight. This. I I still think vendors although I didn't watch game. But you didn't get with those Joe Black Panther becomes captain America. Dammit, we've already talked about this is that a problem. We've talked. Was that a problem? Yes. It is up because it wasn't freaky black pants. There was another black actor, Catherine America. He's bitterness all up there altogether. We he's wrong. Yes. He's running for two days different black guys not Black Panther. I was I honestly thought it was Black Panther. Captain america. I got excited in America in the field. You know, I'm assuming those of you who don't wanna hear save it for ELLs the at the movies, which we're doing next hour. The movie on evangelist is old is behind me. Now still getting complaining about just came out with last weekend. It's that old is one point three billion dollars. I understand a lot of people have already seen clincal. We don't know your opinion on it is a captain America. Black a lot. Yes. Yes. Okay. What's the problem, technically? Yes. Because he's a captain. And it's American. He's black is that what you're telling me now. Kanter. I honestly don't think black America is Black Panther on his two different special power. He puts it he puts his fist up in the air and then puts his head down. And then just like just like, you know. Everybody dies. He can't be kept in America. Because black pants was born in Africa. He was bored at work. America to be kept at a barricade. Otherwise, it kept it immigrant. He's captain African-American coming. I'm excited about. I am kept an immigrant. Bamboo alone. You're all fired. Yeah. Becky, stop Oregon. Sure what he more in cloud. Little let out there. We've done a lot of segments together. I don't know if I've ever had a saying where I knew the less that was gone. I there's been a bunch. I don't know what's going on. But nothing more. So than that lot of those. A lot of those didn't care. Jameh thrones very quickly till I get what you're saying about how you the shot. So you feel like you're in the middle of it. But it's TV I need to be able to see what's going on. You know, what's going on thinking to ask? So what are you doing? It was a war. Who's getting here noise? You hear shadow every now and then a bright in this. So for instance, one of the more eerie sees was they're going to go fight the the the enemy. I won't use names. I'll just say the enemy, right and the enemies are in the distance. So the good guys who have their source in the stores are like on fire. Yeah. You can see all the soldiers running towards the enemy right in the dark, and all you can see you like the swords disappear into flames going Erie. He was because when they ran out there first they were like. It was like, ooh, they got their ass kicked. And then all the quieter. All the. So when you're watching this or you like on something. On the couch. You on like, I was enhanced enhanced, you know, feeling better in life in moving slowly Saint L might make it a little better. I mean, I guess that's the way you see it in three D, even even though it's not three. It's like any other war film that you would have seen saving private Ryan. I like that one. Right. It was good. Same thing. Coming out of that one going, especially if you see private Ryan HD. Yeah. That's not they have any flaming sword in. Yeah. The soldier on fire. How that happened? You gotta watch. When that happens. There was no Dr. All right, everyone to Coachella gave to the Western Conference semifinals tonight coach to show up and play basketball. A crying about the refs. That's next birthday again. It's a little rob man up. Little rub. How could I not know? You'll be jamming this Friday morning. I like this. I can't wait. I'm excited again on that VIP. Let's go to Rogers Twitter and instant add Roz groves use the hash key in the OC. Happy hour starts at six AM. What could what could go wrong a lot, and it's going to lose. So the Royal baby's due any minute now. Is that the world baby? I bet these big is that the Royal baby because they say she was doing now. No, she's expected me twenty nine April twenty nine hundred s how many different names, and that's another one of those things that I'm not into world. Thing say what did the whole way and by waking three? But avoided it watch this or whatever time it was. Oh, my friends. Yeah. I wanna go wasn't invited. If they wanted me to watch the wedding. You didn't go cover. It. Did you know? I wonder why I thought she did they probably took a few days off. I was sitting here. For you. Yeah. It was we were both sitting here together talking about how he will me doing. Okay. Yeah. That's not interested doesn't offer. You guys came back yesterday with my student who was working on a project. But I heard and I saw Chris eating a hamburger and drink coke. Hold on nutrisystem. Hold on move. A nutritious. Right. You pointed that out. Yes. Nutrisystem eight mcmuffin in a Pepsi zero. Which has no sugar. Okay. So on the new I've lost twenty three pounds. Probably have you twenty three pounds. I have I put on twenty three starting to notice it before noticing. Yeah. I'm really fat that makes it on Friday. The children. Chubby chubby g the OC, but but you all to gain a little bit. You are a one of those guys who hide and eat. I get it. I'm not hiding. It's all prepackaged frozen. Do goes to go. Gimme chili cheese. Burger gimme a chilly beating back. Chili cheeseburger with bacon and a slim fast diet coke to go. I'm going to defend Christopher second here. Yeah. I may have been the guy that eats the secret every once in a while, I'm on odd done it. Yeah. Days 'cause you know, it's a terrible decision. You know, you're going to hear from somebody. If they see your house churches. AB in the car around the corner before I get home really thrown in someone else's tragedy. Maybe something like that has happened the churches, but my whole pizza in the car once by myself time mulberry when I bet you twenty bucks. There's a huge pizzas his back into twenty Bruno days you'll like that. But you re pizza right, and he'd been there. Shoot tweets only one size, huge big New York's eight ounces just do twenty dollars and about eight flights six he was laying on the ground wasn't paying rolling around. But finish the there. In my defense, as I twenty years old very skinny as a different time. So many books dollars is going to the hospital. Probably liquid the grease out the bucks record four Friday morning comes in key starts appointed hour, we're on the air. I will be cheating on Friday. I'm not look, man. Don't don't. Don't do. Exactly, do do you. You can go home. And if that's what you tend to side. Pork chop, you decide on your way, home you gonna stop by Popeye's and get a family size and some biscuits and gravy. And all of that, do you you did it behind the scenes video yesterday where you tried to deflate me. That was good. Notice. The you're the Shelby one. No, I'm not sure what I have is. I have a tequila stomach Rosh poll. Shelby. I drink a lot of tequila. I don't have it too. No play my people for your struggles. I can I can empathize with Chris issues. Every once in a while the food part. Often not that part though, the warriors game tonight against the rockets on one game one. It was a close game right up until the end. Obviously some calls went one way. The warriors felt a certain way about it. They've been comparison. I'm sure the rockets whether both did, but the rockets have been complaining about it. They're still trying to relitigate game seven from a year ago in the Western Conference finals, and I'm just I'm over. And I hope that tomorrow we're talking about James harden, whether or not he played well, Kevin Durant. Did he go for forty again? Steph curry to refined shot that I don't want to talk about the referees anymore. Well, that conversation to the refs is still going to be a part of what tomorrow is because people are going to be watching and see if they changed their habits and the way that they call the game. But yet still the the story line could be about what hardened does to get a shots off. What curry does get in rhythm. Because clearly Kevin Iran is right now plan in a space by all by himself based on the conversations that went on after game too. If if he is a crybaby if he's that if he's this. If if Patrick Bev. Early killed him in check. He's changed narrative now so a lot of focus will be on curry the referees. And harden in game two it was smart. You know, normally I'm not in for the whole, you know, referee's got it against those, blah, blah, blah, blah. But when you put them on blast, and you get some of the calls because Saima the NBA about game one. It certainly helps your scenario for game two. But it doesn't matter. James harden, doesn't shoot better. It doesn't matter. If he can't get his shooting up to these forty five percent. You know yesterday or Mondays Sundays Sundays Kate. Nine for twenty eight wasn't simply because the reservoir can call right? You know, how we know this because you didn't shoot the ball. Well game seven to covers final. He didn't shoot the ball. Well and game six of the Western Conference final three straight losses. Three straight. I believe some forty five sub forty percents Schutte those three games you shooting message forty percent for the field combined. That's more than just miss caused by the routes. That's them messing with you. Got you locked up or you're not performing when you need to perform the most. I want to go back Chevy said a second ago. The obviously we're all going to be paying attention to the officiating tonight because it's been the topic at at the front of game one it's been the topic going back to game seven like I said, the rockets apparently have a letter in a drawer somewhere that never was publicized until yesterday about how they felt they had about eighteen and a half points taken away from them in game seven it nowhere in that letter. Did it mention that they went over a million three point line beginning of that game? But I don't know. I don't know if it does help I don't know if. Does make it more likely that maybe they'll get a call here or there key. You told me I mean, you've been on both sides that I'm sure where you felt that you know, you're getting interfered with and the flags not come in. And I'm sure there's been other times where you have gotten away with some stuff because you're Keyshawn Johnson. And they let some stuff go. Do you get away with more? If you're constantly complaining about it. Or does it just draw more attention to the fact that you're complaining about it? And now of really not gonna give what I tried to do is not complain about it to publicly didn't complain about a publicly may say something to a referee here there because more times often than not I got away with murder. I mean, I could go and shove a dude right in front of referee pushing Dow like I was tackling him and catch the football, and they would just ignore it where with God barely tugs on my jersey. They throw the flag because they dropped Johnson. Because I think I think it was just the respect. That's what James horns complaining about. It was a respect level that I have for the referees in not complaining or outing them publicly. You're saying he had a bad game back. Call. He missed a call. I learned that early on in my rookie season in one thousand nine hundred ninety ninety six against the Washington Redskins. It was a very critical play at the end in the game where I caught a touchdown. I didn't get it. Because they said that I when I got my feet down at the same time simultaneously the ball got away from me. So they have is incomplete pass. And they changed the rules slightly after that they tried to change the rule the next year. But I never really publicly blasted the referees. Especially the one that made the call. Oh, my boy like he you know, like I said I could run down to feel pushy guy down right in front of him. And he would just you know, like, he didn't see it, and that's all respect. Now. James harden, going out and complaining about the situation when they let you get away with murder for so long travelling or whatever the case, let me in you doing that too. There is probably gonna backfire on you to some degree the more you can. And that's one of the reasons. Chris Paul got kicked out of the game. Well, any contact with a referee? That's like fake contact. Don't any books later. Yeah. But then even no real contact with the fact that you even brushed up against them. They have a problem with your teammate. Now have a problem with the overall team. I don't want the referees on the other guy side. I if I'm constantly complaining about something constantly doing it. And maybe I missed one or two, but if you're on me from the jump till the end of the night evangelistic. Whether it's conscious or sub conscious. I'm not pulling for you. I'm not going to give you that. Whistle. I'm just not. No, you're not and especially with separate time. But especially when there's video of me duping Ralph's with me floppy. We'll ask Michael Thompson what he thinks about the efficient. He gave two of the series. Michael Thomson, next breaking down the world's problems. I like it. Got solutions roster. Why I don't understand why we do the potato one key says potato correctly. Say roster. Penelope doesn't he says it with a lot of oh Patel. You know what I'm doing rush? What I'm doing there? There we go. All right. You know, who's music that is, of course, as Michael Thompsons music. Good morning, Michael. How are you? Nervous. But was. Yup. Nervous LV because Iraq, and they're going gonna shoot sixty three's tonight air traffic controllers are going to call a game to make the make sure to rock and airspace landing area, the referees air traffic control, some LAX, you know, they certainly made the referees aware of what was going on. But do you think that that will change the way the referee's call the game, Michael? Oh, yeah. Of all is whining. The new crew of Rask. Those three same will be there. So this new crew is going to come there, and they are going to overreact everything. Especially early on the game. I'm gonna play before the game and say, I don't care what you do when Jiangsu those step back threes. Just don't even approach them. Don't even try to even get close to let him shoot him in the first half because you and staff and Bigwood dollar and Livingston cannot be picking up three four thousand that first half. You do understand your son has a coach. To coach Steve Kerr, Mike Brown. They're trying to teach him and tell him what they wanna do. They don't need you calling and telling Klay what to do. It's not your job is that a bad idea to just remind him. Well, no, it's not. But that's not what you said. You just say I'm reminding you send him a tale him. What to do? There's a big difference. Okay. Then I will remind him about an hour and a half before gametime nut step posted James Harden's feet. Because as you guys see some of those getaway with about two of them. But most of those times hardened knows the refugees fall for that trick he kicks. He looks like he's kicking a field goal here seriously. But Michael, I I was gonna ask you that how difficult is it though for a shooter to come down in the same spot that he launched from how difficult is? I mean, I would certainly think then when I'm shooting I'm not coming straight down. I tend to go forward after I release. Well, what watch out place you three? He goes straight up breakdown reality soda, Dale Ellis. All is great was now these guys have it out wolf I jump forward. A little bit kick my legs out and have guys falling to me. I'll get a three point ill goal attempt. So they've justed the game at to the way the reference are call anywhere be falling for it. God he picking all you supposed to go straight up and down. When you shoot a jump shot. Now a lot of guys in the league jumping forward into your speaks latte here. Well, maybe that's why my jumper never fit. Michael I understand that the the calls or lack thereof is is a narrative for us to talk about. But I feel the real stories affect that. James harden is thirty one of eighty one his last three games in the postseason against the Golden State Warriors. What is this team doing that frustrates him so much on the offense aside? Well, they are not doing with the Utah Jazz did which is giving a clear path to the basket by playing behind him. And during the drive all these do it. Hardly you stay in front of him. And just keep your hand up and don't don't get too close to the because you know, he shoots a lot of threes. But it's not like he's in twelve you know, nine out of twelve thirteen fourteen threes and make six of them four of them. So it's you know percentages in that great just that he shoots so many of them. Out there. Hold on their force reconnect with Michael here in in a little bit. I think we whether it's Jordan whether it's been LeBron or Kobe or any of those guys that are just that guy. You almost as we're gonna do the best we can on him. But whatever happens is going to happen. We're just gonna make sure that no one else has a big night. Because if if Kobe goes for fifty if Jif LeBron last in the finals in game one last year goes for fifty still win the game, man. That's got to be the way that you do. And I would imagine James harden for falls into the same categories, Michael you're there. What should I stick to, you know, communications around the I'll see you guys. The show phone, you know, this business you can't call them the cellphone man, come on. Now. Right who who has a landline anymore? You got one key aren't you at the hotel? Home. What did I'm going up there? I don't go up there for preliminary games for the final. Okay. So what about that? Michael. You wait for the finals is this a defacto final whoever wins this series? Are they gonna win the NBA championship? No. You can't think that way travel when you start thinking disrespect the game at Keyshawn LV. No. You can't walk out on the park. L D hiccup five of gonna find all we gotta do is just go play in. We know you still got to go earn teams the Tampa Bay bucks. And they were dominating he's still got to respect your opponent across the line. And if you just look past the or you think wants to begin pasta rockets, the nuggets of the blazers don't be any problem comes out east. No if you do that disrespect the game the game comes back to bite you. And you know what? Yeah. That is true. But at the same time like, oh, clearly, the Golden State Warriors in Clayton him a superior than other teams because of what they've been able to accomplish over the last several years, and what they quite frankly have gone on for themselves right now. Yeah, they won one. Thing. I mean, they're up one nothing and it was a tough game. But at the same time, you know, and I know that everybody's picking the warriors to win this thing. Whether they come out with the MAG sent the outta to the approach that they didn't game six against the clippers and in games two and three when it came to a three and four when he came down to LA, they will all business if they have that approach them going going forward. Yeah. They should win it. But you still gotta respect whoever whoever you're gonna face on the court will they were no business. I got home. It was business. Some some of them was found hanging out with some models. But I ain't gonna say who son that was not I was in Cleveland today by himself gay. I know I know Michael when you look at the other teams though remaining and the the the play offs. I understand that the warriors are clear favorites. But do you think there's anyone in the east with all that talented playoff experience themselves? That's a legitimate threat. Come finals time. The final four teams in the east. I'll be real though, Mike, you know, Milwaukee's not winning right about. Let's talk about the real teams you call that series over already after one game housi-, I'm saying that if you tell me Milwaukee's facing Golden State Warriors, I'm looking at a sweet. But if you tell me that his Boston Celtics, I'm telling you is closer to a tossup. Boston's Boston's really a threat because they got that ultimate closer in the eastern. Kyri Irving was been there done that before. And he listed those big moments and close games where he can close out games. Then he's the best closer alive in east right now him, and of course, why lost last night, but you know, Toronto's long athletic, and they can shoot the ball. So I respect all those things are still in the east L D. I don't think anybody or anything for granted when you get to the stage because they're all capable of winning a championship. Remember three one two years ago? Three one of the worst should never forget that against the cast. If you look at James Horton right now, you're looking at his postseason, and what's going on with his postseason. What happens to the narrative with him? If in fact, they don't get outta here in beating the warriors and they wind up obviously losing a game. What will people start saying about his postseasons nothing? I mean, what do you say about Patrick Ewing who couldn't get by Michael Jordan and the bulls Patrick Ewing, still all time great player hall of Famer just not? He ran into a better team and Hartnett loses to the to the warriors. Again. You just have to say he's losing to a better team. Like, all you can say Reggie MO the same thing in the Easter games. Michael Jordan and the bulls nobody could get by Jordan during his prime years. So that's just that's just the way it is bird with their the Celtics. They dominated the east and the pissed off didn't get by them. So you know that didn't hurt. Isaiah Thomas legacy or anything. We're always trying to rank guys and players news the best this or that. But as it's going right now, Michael is there anybody that's on Kevin Durant's level. No not right now. I mean, you've got guys who close and LeBron still there collide right there, of course, collides healthy and doing what he's doing. But because because Durant has such a huge as easily he scores from every all five areas of the court. He can defend shut you down with his left in quickness. I'd say right now, he's got the edge. Then the best player in the game. Because you know, LeBron's out of everybody's consciousness because he's not in the playoffs and co is great, but Toronto's and trouble. But you right Durant? He's doing what he's doing. Yeah. He takes over the mattress as the best in the game. He might even impress Keyshawn. Nama Durant guy. Now, I liked Iran. I'm not like the rest of these fools around here. You're not what I'm to the Keyshawn. He said he's doing what he's supposed to do. It doesn't depression. No, no, no. He is doing these supposedly is doing it. What I expect for him to do with to dominate the game. It's impressive. But what do you want me to say about a guy like that? Now, if all of a sudden somebody like Livingston comes out and has fifty and again, then that would be impressive to me because I don't expect for him to have fifty. Is key. As a Katie keeps playing like this even he kinda had an off game in game. One the way he played in games off for six we expect them to do that again against the rocket. But he was a little off with a shot. So he can get back to that level against the clippers of you saw last three games. Then rockets could be deep trouble. That is Michael Thompson, Mike. Sir. All right helicopter debt. All right. You got it. Well, I mean, isn't that impressive in and of itself that we've got no point where Kevin Durant drops fifty just going. Yeah. That's what he does. I mean, that's the thing. That's right. Just like with Klay score whatever he scores, sixty points and three quarters or whatever it was. It was well among men, I don't okay. And what does that mean to me? He's supposed to do that. That's. Sixteen three core. That's why he's a professional and we're not because we can't do that. Then why doesn't everybody do it because they're not as professionally good as he got sixty Travers and three quarters, and he took like ten dribbles. No. It was it was. It was incredible. I arguing that it is incredible. Your normal guys like that they train their whole lives to do that. But nobody else does it that you're not training hard enough opera. The dodgers have their winning streak come to an end in San Francisco, but not all bad news in the bay. That's next. It's gonna be may high. You get a Travis guess tomorrow. It's gonna be may. Yeah. I liked instinct. Oh, this was so high it was high school for me. No. I didn't mind it we hold on. You see the in in is gonna be mad. In your seat for that. Next the next please go, please don't here. It is. And they're Chris is out to that. Makes it far worse. You got double trouble. Good left. And right. Oh. Mincing key nothing. I ain't got nothing for I'm with you on that. I mean, I didn't realize that. I mean back in the day. Obviously, you know, all the moves that was planning for Tampa. They are big know Florida Orlando, guys or whatever. But as far as the music, I'm not I don't come out as good moves Elsie. I like that boy bands. I still road with it. I'm only rolling with new addition in boys and men and stuff like that. When it gets to the boy bands. I can't do nobody in sync. There. You can't do nothing with instinct at all nothing. That's an so. So many try to be black. Yeah, they had some soul. It's not that. They I don't care what they're trying to be. I can't it just got paid that one else. This don't even sound black. No, this doesn't. Yeah. What are you trying to learn? Oh, they did. Like, they redid just got paid. No. The ballot. I think gone. Good dog just me to on that. I'm gonna play off the dodgers baseball top ten chart. So you guys too. Shoes to dress up like them. We'll use a teenager in assembly one year. We did buy me. And my friends looked like the type that we did moves. We have we did the moves. I mean, I was you know, one hundred sixty pounds. I was an athlete. I had I had. I was sort of slipped out. It was like a hundred bucks. I had the blonde tips. The Puka shells moths. Oh, see baby with Pook show. Low, you know, the necklace. Every Pook not every upon tips. That wouldn't be a good tenant was inside those shells either. That wouldn't not then not the dodgers lose last night. Their winning streak comes to an end the giants get them. Evan longoria with a basis loaded. Double key to give the giants at three two to win. Yes. It was at three to win by the giants inning Dodger's four game winning streak. The dodgers continue to go up and down win-lose win win-lose on streaks. Ross stripling made a bull twenty nineteen bullpens debut by getting an out on a but one of my favorite things bunting. In an attempt to start, but then giving up a single or double and a walk which was a lot to low to basis. So the dodgers lose basically three two two to the giants. Double down the line and left field that gave them that three to two lead walking. Bueller? Takes the bump today, which is the mound. I learned earlier. Yes. From rosh. I thought he meant like a buck like getting ready to get bumped. No, he will be on the no not that. He will be on the bump for the dodgers today. Like, I mean, it's the best team in the league will lose sixty games. Every year the best team in the league philosophy. This is this is baseball. You're going to lose a game here there. The nothing went wrong last night other than Rostrup alling had kind of a bad night. But there was a lie. Bellinger state hot. Yup. The dodgers pitching was very good. With the exception of stripling Joe Kelley continues to get a little bit better. Each time. He goes out there he pitched in and then gave up one hit strike out. A couple of guys. This is just one of those games that you have over a course of a long season where Evan longoria is a really good player. Got a big hit. And a big situation you loose it happens. And again, I was more impressed with the pitching. Even though. I know we had a little blip was tripling who was starting to who had left being a regular starter. And went back into the bullpen. And maybe that has to do with his rhythm and thrown off because when he was starting he was lights out. But I'm good with that three to score laws. Then he's pitching strong. That means we create enough offense to win a game. And we just happened to come on the wrong side of it this time, but give me three to all day long. Don't I don't like losing Travers. Eight two five eight two six because that means we're giving up way too, many run all the same to me. No difference to me, as you know, we. Made possible by Joanna's cookie shop he should come in. And visit Joanna there on valley boulevard. She's got specials for national oatmeal cookie day to day Joanna's, kooky shop on valley boulevard. Cookies are good mothers oatmeal, cookie CD make that up. Oh, that's real mother's oatmeal. Cookies was the way to go. Those are the real hard ones right there. Those are good too. Depositing frost without them heart though. Yes, heart is that you know, what's funny to me. They actually think that's funny. They do that's the part that he likes. So. Know what it is. No, no. I would you know definitively. Not funny. I just drive repeat some things you say back just doing the pre game show. Try that out. Well, he's not gonna go anywhere. Now. He's he's a made man with me move you before I moved him. Yes. He Chris thinks he can threaten me with that. I don't think it's no you're not going into me. You'll be on that. I'm good. He's good. Now. We're good Dalian. Chris will move you. But he's very quickly before we tease. Justin Turner, hasn't hit a home run. We played a month of the season him struggling, he's he's really struggling in. The dodgers still have the best record in baseball. They know what's going to happen here. So I'm looking forward to real quick is our guy AJ Pollock. He's going to go on the I L. Yes angeles. You know, who who that means more playing time for tweet vertigo for Google? He's been killing it in limited at bass. He's finally going to get his shot here over the next ten days. I want to see what vertigo hold onto that spot. Just internal get going. The dodgers are already really good. He hasn't done much of anything so far this season. Alright Josh Rosen out of Arizona. He's on his way to Miami. And that is good news. We'll explain next.
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You know coming from Chris Christopherson and it has to do with What we're going to talk about at the top of the show which is Cheating in sports you know. I think it's so interesting because I wanNA take thirty thousand Dozen Square Foot Square foot thirty thousand foot view. It's not a square. It's a thirty thousand square foot. It's like only ten thousand three thousand houses. Thirty two thousand The thirty thousand foot view of of sports and why we go to it and why we take comfort in it and wide. There's excitement in it. NY Games I watch. Yeah like I watched eastern Michigan. I I just watched the highlights of eastern Michigan Northern Illinois. Again a MAC game. That wouldn't mean anything right. At all except that eastern Michigan has never been northern Illinois. Northern Illinois was a powerhouse for years and years. They were that MAC team. That would beat the. Yeah our five conference teams this year. They're down a little bit but eastern Michigan Grow Epsilon just ten miles away from the University of Michigan. We remember that team was always like the also ran team. The small MAC team that would never win and they beat them there. It was an exciting and excitement. You know for me. I'm like this is really exciting. The eastern Michigan made it there. They made a bowl for the second year in a row and they beat Northern Illinois a team that they never beat in northern Northern Ireland on Northern Illinois Homefield. So it's a big deal and I'm like this is why sports a great and it's amazing. You never question whether or not cheating. was anybody cheated. You're you're just like this. Was it the two teams lined up and the better team that day one and that. That's exactly the social contract. We make with sports. And that's what we we hold up up our end of the bargain. There's a reason to. That's why if like if if like an official determines a game and it's a weird caller bank and all that don't get so mad so then if there's cheating involved this is why steroids is such a hot button issue because then you can't quantify will they won. But did they win because they cheated. And this is why. Like deflating balls is an issue for people and you know videotaping practice. Sessions is an issue for people in why because everyone wants to know no at their core that every all the playing field is is level. Both teams are coming at it with the with zero advantages in the game except for talent. That's it so when this issue of the Astros stealing signs which is by the way something that a lot of teams do let us but let's explain lane what is acceptable and what isn't in terms of stealing signs are stealing signs on the catcher. So that the batteries know what pitch is about to happen and if you know what pitch is going to happen and you don't have to have that split second second. I need to see what the the way the arm motion is. In the way the seams are coming you're guessing between changeup and fastball. All are off. Speed pitch and fastball. especially if a guy's throwing a hundred miles an hour and his which is coming in guys throw ninety five to one hundred and his off speed pitches coming in at eighty four. That's a huge difference. If you're if you're trying to time up a one hundred mile an hour pitch you have to start your swing almost as the guys releasing the ball exactly the only way way to connect art. You're the the bats gotta go back as soon as that's happening but the way you keep your hands back the best hitters in the League can maybe adjust on the fly and dink ahead. It's a breaking pitch like over the Infield and drop it in but it's very very difficult to do now. What you can do is if you have a runner who's on second base who's earned his way on the second base if he's looking in? The catcher is being very explicit with the signs. He's giving and you're able to understand understand the sequence and know what they're going to throw the heat the Guy Guy on second base can give a signal to the batter of what's coming and that's on the pitcher and Catcher to get better at that is not that is signed stealing that is acceptable. As far as that's concerned because then it's about how well you can disguise. What your what your sign is and you say to your pitcher keep? The runners off base chemo. Very rare situational. Final thing you got a guy on second like even guy first or third can't steal the catcher signs away a runner on second so that is the time when they conceal the sign. Now if your team team has a camera in center field that is focused directly on the catcher sending that signal not to the broadcast but to a computer in the Doug Bob House in the tunnel in the clubhouse just by the dugout and you've got a trash can next to that club how that computer where someone is banging on the trash can when they think that a offs breaking hits the batter can hear banging on a trash cans so that they know that an off speech pitches coming that stealing signs that is against the rules and they are claiming that the Astros did that. Well a pitcher on who might fire said that who was on the Astros out of the Astros on the team in the two thousand seventeen when they want when they want it all in two thousand seventeen and you look at a team like the Astros and you're like yes. They have great players. Yes they have a lot of storage Amazing Alex Bregman is a A without a doubt he's a he's an MVP candidate. Jose Altuve H. L. To van Spanish means boys medium. Yes he in. which is the shirts that he wears? He is an MVP candidate Korea is an MVP candidate. George Springer is an MVP candidate. Ray rettig just every Gurry L. This team and then the pitching staff with ver- Lander and this year Garrett Cole. They didn't do it this year but like we're not saying by the way that they're a bad team we're just saying if they have an advantage manage certain games than what is fair. That's an unfair advantage. And it makes you look back at their championship. Run so when you heard this news about them and that it was so detailed detail made me sad. I was bombed bombed. Because I'm like I wanted the Astros to go from member. They were in last place and they were just terrible for years and years and they were all talking about building and stats and Jeff Luna went from the cardinals down there. And there was the whole issue of like sabotage in terms of the cardinal's trying to sabotage Latino. Yeah no in his in his server and all of his information and get it and Ludo came down you're like with stats. They built this team back. They had a plan they had a process and they came all the way back and they it did it gave every team that said we're in rebuilding mode. Hope that we can do it. So I watched the Tampa Bay rays this year and they weren't supposed to figure in and they make the playoffs. They would your like you say to yourself. This is a team that can do so. If the Astros can do it then the rays can do it and if the race can do at Kansas City can do it in Kansas City can do it reds can can do it then then Seattle can do a Pittsburgh and comeback if they were down in the in the dark ages so you literally say every team has hope but now you hear this and it makes you upset and the craziest thing with the Astros which is insane is in their in their world series video where 'cause you do a video sort of like a one shining moment but they do a whole video of the season you see the astro players coming in the Doug and one guy two guys you see Bregman and I think springer or CRA walk in or Al Two they walk walking down the Doug you see right there a computer and a trash can now. I'm not saying but I'm just saying there's the evidence right there because it's like it's close enough that you could hear it on the field but out of you so that no one can see looks going on and so that to me is. Is the smoking gun so to speak speak. You can actually go on the computer I wonder if they can look at old footage from there and the MLB is going to investigate. The question is what is going to happen. And we'll we'll take this up right now. What do you think? And then we'll go to break right but what do you think is going to happen to them. If it's found that they're guilty what can you do. You take the world series away from. I don't think he's not quantifiable. Necessarily what asterisk ask it and do you take the owners. The people who participated are they sanctioned. Are they censured. Do they pay a fine high. Lose draft picks. Yeah how do you you how do you rectify this situation. Because then if you were the if you're the dodgers you say to yourself God why was Kershaw hit so hard because it was coming you say to yourself. Create also believable pitcher in the regular season had an unbelievable year in two thousand seventeen. Why was he hit so hard? And maybe What's his Danley Johnson? Maybe what's his name wasn't tipping his pitches. Yeah the Y- You Darvish Darvish. Maybe he wasn't quote it on court. Tipping his pitches. Yeah that was the knock on him is that he was tipping. His might have ruined his career and at the end that moniker gets hung on that dude. How how does that guy get reparations? I Dunno it's crazy. What would you do if you're Manfred I? I would ban all cameras from the stadium except for the network camera in the outfield. So you cannot have any cameras out there. I would have police it. I would ban it. I would ban all you know I would check the computers and I would check the things in the Web's ends you're saying having MLB representative tentative just draft seeing through the clubhouses in through the thing. Yeah sure that nothing no community you have to now okay you absolutely have to and then I would figure out ways to punish the team. I don't know how you do it. I mean the crazy. How great would it be like we got a replay that world series? Get all the seven. Get all the old player. You gotta play the whole thing. Get all the old players you know. Like even if they're on different teams bring them back together. Play that world series again that to me would be the greatest seven games in April. Two seven games march seven games in March. Oh my God that'd be the greatest thing ever you gotTa Dome you gotTa Dome in in in Houston and you've got an L. A.. The weather will be nice enough. Seven Games in March arch do it seven games in March. I love it I wanted to take All right When we come back another side of the break we got Owen Smith? I'm very very excited. he's really funny comic and a great did. We're just in Austin Texas. Thank you to everyone. Who came out to those Austin shows? You were amazing capcity. We'll be back at the tower comedy Professor Commentating Ping Pong. They're doing it spin this year. It's going to be awesome And we were at the Waterloo records. One of the greatest record shops ever their plan. This thin lizzy song. I am that I was so excited to hear it. It's old flame We have the sklar brothers. God Damn it we love. We Love Sports. We love comedy all three come together after this break be right back with more from the cheap seats after this she. Yeah Hey guys. I don't know if you're like me Janet Lovie even you're like me on this but okay I am now. Weather's getting a little chillier in La. I just start craving is want to be a homebody you know. We travel so much so even on the weekends. When we're around I I liked just being at home? I love nothing more than curling up on the couch watching some night football on a Saturday night college football in the winter. I WANNA curl up on my new new borough couch so badly. Holidays are coming up Guys you know you're going to have guests over you want your want your house to look great. 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What's up randy to have you here ear your parent too so we understood we need to? Isn't it amazing. I know you are an engaged dad. Yeah in that you involved at involved in engaged in your kids lives in a way that like we are that we have the same look of exhaustion the night owls. I mean you look at a comedy shows of it a show and it's like what did you do today man. I slept till three and then I yeah right man go on stays talking about the girlfriend is like the fight. was that hard to have a phone. Conversation sation fighting with someone who has no logic to wear clothes. We're seeing another human to put a shirt on crazy you know. I don't know what the name of that sporting event is when Monday in Rodeos with a rope and a tire can you're like it's Oh God that's roping steer nearly inspired by. I getting a three zero dress. It's the same sweater around his eye. Being eight seconds onto the next route all I would say to someone who who has. WHO has a girlfriend or boyfriend? Yes I say think about the craziest. This fight you've ever had with your girlfriend the moment where like all you wanted to do was go to sleep but they wanted to keep this fight going there standing up in the bathroom there there are. They won't leave a party and you're just begging them to leave the party or they won't audible worse. Okay do you think about that time. That's every day for God damn morning. Yes you I mean like makes me think about like Lebron and I mean I'd have to have a spouse if you're an athlete this you have to have a spouse that's like I'm GonNa take it all so I get all the money. Yeah but I'm going to take it. I'm willing in to do it all yup take care of everything I will deal with rich enough to have someone Osama do it all no but still but still I mean I talked to. I know so many people who who are kind of doing well they still when they come home and they try to reinsert themselves in the family dynamic. The wife still lives like. Hey man this Bizet's master for your now it's now saying like if the nationals Dot Bryce Harper back they like get away. We're fine we won. Take Your Wife to say to you when you've been winning without yes. Let's just say a non verbally which is worse. Yeah you get a look and you're like Oh God. Yeah go there and look. And it's like the clippers without Paul. George they have Paul George now there. Yeah so like I can make us. What's your team? Do you have an NBA team. Yeah I'm a wizard guy. But I out here. Clippers Gobbo Wagner. Dude uh-huh straight ball and we knew it. We called it. We know the man the guy she can guy one thirty one show so I. I Love Wizards at five. I I do this weird thing now because I'm older than all of the players so I feel yeah mass. I feel feel weird. Weirdness shoes and all of that stuff is like is not gonNA help me. Allies in your nephew doesn't work. No now is Lebron the only thing it might affect my hairline. I are wearing a headband. Middle of his head on as I I wear I wear Like Lebron's old in the league now and he's still ten years younger than us. Yeah Yeah old man. I ran out the first pair sneakers I have felt felt emotionally. I was emotionally go out and getting I felt even weird is i. I will run out and bought. The core is because he's a quiet player that gets it done on. I feel like I'm a quiet jokes are so I liked his new balance on a white man shoo clearly early years of the all right. Exactly the case is so funny commercial. All all right. She's so you get a right. Larry Yeah so you see ran out and got the dope but now a new kit again. I felt like a kid again and I'm like load managing my marriage like. Do you have to buy something for your wife because I did. I tried to sneak them into the rotation so I would only wear them on what I'm doing with his jacket right now with Shag right now. What are those making breakfast? Yeah Yeah because this. Yeah because we don't wear shoes in the house so I kind of keep it and there was of course there was a thing baby can damage the only way to most as feeling like a king you thought collide. Yeah that the coli effective the shoes. It'd it'd be they you would be the quiet leader of your house and no one would even know the no one even knows that had a more stealthy but of course the events happened. I get I got in a bright white shoes. You can't even I want so how I mean. Yeah we clearly know how good he is like he is saying and by the way Toronto surprising everyone still be grab still good about addition they watched every step up and they play great. Yeah but you understand why he is as good as why do you think yeah. It didn't work in San Antonio. 'cause we'll talk about this later we'll get him a question. 'cause probably Popovich to me is the guy who will like speak out about against trump loves his players. so much like can't believe those two didn't get along. I'm GonNa tell you what everything you're saying is just my my perspective on it. You forget coli. Why looks like an older man but you forget? He's a young kid kid so I don't know if you've been in the Senate donio recently Young person's not a young person's town town and is not middle of Texas the middle of Texas. You can't even get a pancake really unless you go to like Iowa by is not and he the the narrative painting of him is that he all he's always wanted to come back to California right so if he was in Houston maybe he'd been cool because the nightlife just energy or Dallas. Even I mean let's paid. Let's say exactly what it is. It's like Kevin Durant left Oklahoma City. He's loved Oklahoma. City comes to Oakland. which is I mean you said Jalen Rose said this? It's woken shit. Yeah you got black people and white people black culture there you've got silicon. Valley's city voted for Obama among you're saying like That was what Jalen rose says. Obama came on when there was a huge tornado in Oklahoma City and he comes on the screen and they booed him look. They booed trump at. You GotTa get out of here. It can't be in his brain he's GonNa play for people who were doing my guy right. Yeah no you can't is just like an and you just don't feel you you just don't feel like yourself you want to be around when you have things that just make it all feel worth. Till he left Oakland's Greytown and goes to Brooklyn which is wow really. Ah Yeah Better Yeah Brooklyn is the best place ever and it's on the rise cavernous smartest hail man. He was the Knicks. Just that's just now did she. Man Man James Dolan is the reason guys do not so the ownership gives you WanNa talk about cancer in the locker room. This is the guy like any acts like. He's not aware of it lie. Hi here's my thing because you know he plays in some shitty. He's a musician. Yeah Shitty Blues Road Dog Names James J giant. He I and I don't know it's like corporate band worse. I think the Knicks Players on the Knicks should pool their money together And create a fake record label. That gives him a record contract so that he can focus on on the condition. These cells the Knicks Knicks. So like imagine adjective. They literally went that deep on the backside out to be like you got to focus on music full time in contrast to you got to be merged man. TV Show Empire Fire Lions because the Knicks Griffin on. This show when Lebron Thomas deciding where he was going to go last year two years ago we said what if he comes to the clippers and Blake was like I would love it but I don't think it's going to happen. He said I think he's going to New York and there. It was in the moment. He said I think him. And the whole banana boat crew. We're going to get together and you're like Chris. Paul is going to go there. It is all his people are going to get together and we said why because the knicks suck he said Man I. I can't tell you but playing in Madison Square Garden Blake Griffin. Set is is more special than playing anywhere else. He said it's just this. He makes that common players show. And then it got picked up and Stephen a Smith is of course. He doesn't even mention fan but he was just like I mean why is this guy I mean. What are we talk all about it? Okay Stephen. You're right but he was just being honest on this is that there is a lure. Shitty as the Knicks still allure to play tennis subway car. Service is still a kid from Akron Akron in Ohio cats think would want that. La Sunshine more than that New York just state of mind. I think you're Kevin Durant is from unwound from same neighborhood. Prince George's County Maryland. And we all fantasy are pretended like from New York New York women growing up so his natural Migra. His migration of being the man in Brooklyn makes complete to make Brooklyn the team of New York. I'm Glenn is way better than it's just like it's on the rise is man if you've been to vet arena like where it is it's insane and the cool part of town they're like yeah. I mean we. We've so the part owner of even just from a comedy perspective. Where do we do? We did our other podcasts. Don't live where do we do it. We did it at the bell. House in Brooklyn is into Manhattan Brooklyn that so that time. He came back and did a week of like. We're shooting something for jetblue and that whole week. We did shows all of our shows who didn't in Brooklyn dating factory. We'd actor was the one. The one in the back of the Bowling Alley. Place was so good. That place was an amazing room. The Spanish comedy. I mean she should know this but it was all happening all going off so I get that but what it is amazing. The cultural aspect of you you know in that league is such a players League players League so if I want to guess what. He's going zippers. That was insane. That was amazing and then to get Paul George which was no one expected. Yeah but it's to me. This is the most exciting. NBA season. Remember this is the first first time we don't know who's going to be there in the end. You have no idea as like hopefully everyone stays healthy. And then it'll be more exciting. And it's like the four spacing that the Houston Rockets are starting to get like they frustrate me like watching them play because James Harden if you leave him five feet behind the line he's GonNa Dress. It's real easy. Yeah unbelievable. Well he seems like a cool dude like he seems like he would be into like all comedy you know what I mean like Reggie Watts hang out math matt. That's my guy he knows like to me. He's like a big John Mullany fan did he just is a really interesting guy and seems like a great NBA dude. He's a guy like old school body. Like Dr King Type Roberts Right the guy that you hear like old guys talking about can you fit but I mean it was like bullets. Engine was a guy who'd he didn't didn't look like Doctor J.. No but he put those numbers up and you just said to yourself man. This guy. Wisconsin was an angry here talking. I mean of course it's childhood is what caused caused it. Of course he was trying to score on all the people that Melissa Dunk on every single person to me as a kid I mean. It's like that. He played with an anger play with a definite anger and he never stopped moving and I was like in an era where people like. Come on man what are you doing. We did cocaine last night. They just had a six pack. Doing I'm wearing street. I can twist my ankle in these. I love watching old. MBA Games just the lack of tattoos. Nobody had to buy but the NBA The early nineties. Too late in your guys who just square off start fighting every night they would just separate. It'd be like get on the line. You're all still in the game. Yeah Yeah Yeah exactly exactly coming off. The bench is becoming out of the crowd. And we all freaked out. It run our test go back no go back. Yes when like everyone camera guys taking swings at people. Oh man the guy we need the shot right I love guys at NBA game the dudes. It's who are watching. Who are who put wear the Jersey with no shirt underneath? You think that if everyone gets injured someone's going to call you worst bodies ever. You're like they have it so they couldn't do a burger if you are you a college fan too man. Yeah I'm GonNa tell you this Whenever were there winning I am on board? I'm like I'm so excited but I don't follow him because when I used to follow him and he used to frustrate you know what I mean and so I'd just Just because here on the west coast I keep up with like how they're doing but good. This year I know motionlessly it ruins my day demand so I had to like I have to treat it like you know all right. I'm not on instagram. Full Week kind of thing go how they doing. Okay good I get. But he had edited surprises. You that's great you can turn it off. Can't even turn out like for me. I'll be watching him Michigan football game. Whatever if it's close yeah and if it's a again I have to turn off the game only follow it just by scores I ca? I can wash Notre Dame football during the season Notre Dame Fan. I'm when I graduated from day so it it it. It physically affects me mad so I always liked being delighted to hear that we want. I don't need to see because I get is not bless your kid's GonNa make mistakes but your team's Jerome Bettis. was there yeah man. Ask Me as my man. Yeah he was there dude basketball with him here out here but like the Uh they're covered Notre Dame. You would so we did the comedy. Room legends. Yeah really really. One of my favorite shows great right. We're like hey we're here. Is I come over to the basketball game. I'll get you guys sitting in the loved. That basketball is fantastic. It's asked who'll dome thing is smaller than you think it's going to be. Yeah so we were walking around Notre Dame. Instead to ourselves I get it I get. Why people exactly why people come back and get married he s I get why people gica place is a beautiful campus is one of the most amazing campuses I've ever been on? I mean I. I was biased. Of course but then I I you know you're talking about Michigan. Guys who went to Michigan going there and just understanding we're standing is incredible and so My wife is from Gary Indiana. And she's never been on campus. It'd been on campus like the Statue of Liberty in New York so when your kids get older you could take way too. I have friends is I would go. I used to take people from La to watch the game on the field. Because I used to perform on the all time here and I started like Kinda cut. My teeth like informing Aaron. So there's not Athletic Department knows saying I'd be on the field and people like your my own and I took one of I had a management time. And he's a big guy and we we got to watch to see game at had Notre Dame on the field and we law push him in the end zone The end zone game. There's a there's a magic to that team yeah just can't even describe it. There's a magic or that team that is just mystique feels that they're not even in our conference and when Michigan beat them this year it was. Actually I was like we felt good thing. We I know this last year I know this year it was it you get hurt. I'm like this hurts more than another law office because Okay Funny Story. I should never leave that because he made with. You know when I was at school the Fab five was playing with us. So yes. Oh they come. Michigan comes to play at Notre Dame and I'm a freshman assessment and I was still getting acclimated to being I if I felt like a minority. You know what I mean like right. I wasn't angry but I was so happy to see five brothers come in just my blackness I was like that was quietly so they were whooping is in in basketball and just for seasoning in Chris Webber does like this to hand suedes off two feet from just barely inside the free throw line and just as the whole arena tonight and I don't know how it happened happened but look down. I had a Michigan t shirt. I was full on music and I love of his from Michigan. She played basketball for Notre Dame. Oh no way and it was like living is so I wrote on the SP's when she was like starting to ascend everyone always loved her in I used to go back to perform Wisconsin like. I never told anybody that I knew scholar so when we went back to he was like. Hey you know Scott yes I do is incredible man in So the my personal play bass goes like the rebounding record and she taught me how to shoot that did not know. Oh I was walking. Sat out to him. Had A funny I had a community. College Jumps Up Community College. Jump shot to Notre Dame no so but but but the teacher Bowen was was her name. She's married now mcgrigor but he was the last night she taught me how to shoot it. Almost cry do because I because I was I was able to shoot from half court but the ball fell weightless. Yeah and that's all I would do. I went to school with Monty Williams. Who's the coach of Yes so monty and I played high-school against Mani William no way. Yeah he was two years older than me. Money in high school do unreal insane. A straight as student been imagined. Let me tell you so we used to have these things in. PG County Maryland. I don't know if other people had it but they were called game bells where you played while everyone. Everyone was at school so every now and again schedule we'd have like a a two o'clock gang. Yup We've never had that we played money into a housecall Tomac high school And and never forget. It was like one of those James Worthy. UNC place he gets the rebound right Outlet up to half court. The Guard Guard does not cross court. He just throws the ball up And I'm sitting on a bench like and I'm looking at not go. No no no money catches the ball on on the other end in dunks. It already made all the way down. Eighty five steps steps. Don't know whole squad to me in the breakaway rim. Doesn't pop all the way back up so you have a whole school with the time. It takes the maintenance crew to thanks a lot. You just like the first in the first quarter defeated. Our whole it was. He was insane. And then. Yeah so we used to play at. There's a knute. Rockne e center on. Notre Dame's campus so everybody who is basically like a hot boxes. A sweat box and and we would all play these intense one games at mining would be there and he would be giving me like pro tips like he would be and he was an one time. I stole Stone Ball for money. He was chasing me. It was like back like we were back in high school but I did something he taught me to do. Use The rim against the player I guess and I scored on them and it was like one of those. PG county movies where. I wasn't looking. But I was looking at him. I got running back all off. And then he takes it to another level COKELY's Washington played for She she's at WNBA champion. She coaches at the University of Pennsylvania. Say and she was a point guard. She used to teach melody's little crafty things and amazing. Amazing she would be like Stealing from him last year. So it'd be like this. Do Shirt off. She like it was like like just mentally. I learned like how like if you meet a point guard. Just how they kinda just roll like see she was like a leader may was was insane. Fundamentally sound mentally. WNBA is like the best and And who I was I had to tell you almost oh but so cut to you so years later I'm writing on. Everybody hates Chris Right working on the show doing punch up and in the show all the stuff. Yeah go to a benefit with two seen Arnold and Terry crews news and Gladys Knight seen on stage on stage was saying it was like a great night. Amazing benefit was sponsored by Chris. Webber Chris Webber loved. Everybody hates Chris so he corners corners me. Start telling me tell you what is about like he was like okay so it is disqualified squalls and he does. He's gotTa give me on a show. You GotTa give me on a show so I was like I was like man. You have no idea like what a fan I am of you but I had to like boy in the show's Happen Yeah so he adjusts retired right And so then I go back and I'm all excited not talk to into letting US write a row for Chris. Webber he loves the show So we invite a little small role for him He plays like this mechanic named tiny right and And one of the things I did on the show too was I was able to work with nine actors actors to make sure they did. Yeah Yeah especially like our comic friends so he came on set and when he came on set a call seven in the morning it was everyone was like. Oh Oh shit as Chris Webber and and And then I worked with him he was ready man he narrowed even on. He's so smart and so and so oh good you know what I'm saying. Oh good. And he nailed it and there was so much fun. I was so happy that he was able to like do that. He'd like genuinely gravity right here because he knew you were the one who pulled it. Yeah and so then. Afterwards he goes So he's rap on Chris. Webber spelled like nine thirty ten o'clock in a they go We go so which argument do now and I go. Well we gotTA finished marble. Hang out for a little bit obsolete so then you know kind of like. I'm going back video. Village action suit in the next sack. You can see his shadow in a shot and the director of that and Chris eating a donut like he has no idea. Because I don't want to basically went from. Oh Shit is Chris Robertson. Oh Shit He. Everyone hates Chris trailer. What's break we come back? And there's so many things did we have you back on the show. Oh and Smith is with us. This is slow down ranby. I heard this the other day and I love the achieve seeds On Smith we'll talk our talk Kapernick on the other side of this thing. Just lots to talk talk about the summertime. We'll get on the other side Right we'll be right back Some so what they knock before he's got a limited. Hey guys welcome to the show. Owen Smith is here. Follow him on twitter. Owen Smith the number four real Owen Smith four a real twitter instagram and instagram And live shows people can see you out. Can they find out how to live DOT com. Okay I'm I'm I'm usually at the comedy store Improv or to laugh at any road stuff or mostly around not right now But I'll be I'll be. I don't know I gotta get a Netflix special or something. I love it. Whatever we do on making you come to my school benefit? Because I can't wait crazy on that I can't wait so good the stuff about you and your relationship with your wife and all that so good about the sneakers on this show that all all of it all the time well and you know sports you wrote for the. Sp's you know so so let's talk about who some quick hits I wanNA talk about. I want your a perspective on the capture nick thing because it's great the chirping back and forth between Stephen Smith and Eric Reid is fascinating to me and so I'm trying trying to understand it. And making huge capital defenders fries protests. Yeah and then at the same time we just go okay. Well what is he trying to do. I mean and this is what I don't know. Maybe you better perspective on this is e trying to get back into the League Or is he just trying to make a statement as you're trying to mask unmask. How how Shitty the League actually is? Well I wanna I just WanNa even take it back. Another step is we are looking at Colin like he's like to static attic individual like we only see him but you don't realize like what he's been through these last years right like his livelihood has been taken from him except that he had a a huge contract with Nike. Do his thing but his too. Yeah but his whole place for this whole like he looking at the one man on earth. WHO's not allowed to be angry right? So what does that feel. You know what I mean like. If he chose any type of anger it the narrative on it is spun to be so careful with how staff staff year. But if any of this and so is is he So is he Martin he's everyone wants him to be Martin Luther King Knish and just be nonviolent and just you know taking a nap regard and no one wants him to have a little bit of Malcolm in you know and so I feel like you see again is even thirty. I think he's maybe he's thirty one. Yes all this has happened to them so oh just when I watched his reaction ready to play like when he was like just that was like stuff built up like he loves the game he wanted to play the game and the thing he was shining light to a very simple thing in his mind he wasn't I don't feel like he was like everyone's saying that. He ruined his the narrative of him ruining his the job interview. And how you I mean that is a perspective hip two types of mindsets people who who are employees and there's people employers right so I like. We always do that like with like. Why do you name your children like my mom named Me Owen? Because she wanted me to be able to get a job but I don't WanNa work for anybody. You know what I mean like. Look what you did your your own I wanna I WANNA be my own employer. I'm still currently working working with people in Weird ways but my spirit is that of an employer so my spirit is my my inner spirit is a dude named like you know. Look of a D'Amato just whatever you know. Like I have a yes. So he does looking at a guy if he was if he was more. I hate to say this but if he was like more If he knew how to hit those talking points was more like pointed in specific. I don't WanNa say ticket but just marketer marketer into what he was trying to do and could be really clear I don't think any of this would be like they see. I kinda think to to me. I felt like he felt like he thought as soon as he realized that the media wouldn't be allowed to go right. Go to the tryout. All his trust is all just trust because why wouldn't the whole. NFL show off all the owners already said they colluded against him anyway. Why why wouldn't they all show up and then all the owners come out afterwards? It'd be like he's not good and nobody there from the media could be like we saw it because you know what I'm saying. There's only they would control the narrative. As far as that's concerned I understand like why couldn't the owners allow the media in there because you know what I'm saying there was something that is everybody's a little to kind of blade here like. Why couldn't they have bent on that and said look we're GONNA ALLOW ESPN to cover it? We're GONNA Lau one play. NFL NETWORK NFL network is is the one place it's going to be allowed to cover. Why couldn't the NFL network? Lean on the owners. You get down to. Hey let's cover this thing we're gonNA shoot. We're going to record this because I think they didn't want him to get that important To be that important this to go away and so that it Bagi with that I agree with a lot of that and I feel like he was just trying to take his power back and move it to this this place now the execution of it is what everyone was happy more and then they were talking about the shirt that he wore A. It's like yeah I mean is but but it's like you said like on certain on a certain level just wear plain shirt man. Don't let anything if I'm him and this is what talk about the don't let anything get get in the way of what you're trying to do any if you WANNA get back in the league right but what is it. What what can you do more? Where could he do more good for whatever he's trying to do? Is it in the League or is it against the league in moments like this. That's the question. Well I mean when the play okay so there but I feel like the thing that he was taking a knee for is still occurred. Yes and so what he took me for. I don't really see anyone of influence and power addressing doing doing doing the best they could to try to address it. You know what I mean early. Yeah he has brought awareness to it To some people who weren't ready to see it or hear it and then so now you gotta deal with the time it takes for people cheaper to go through all of that but I don't know what more we can dummy. He's not working in that. I don't know how much money you got like from from Nike. Achey should have gotten a lot and yeah and I think you know. But that's the whole thing is like you. So the x factor there is. They needed him to play along right. This dude is still angry and hurt man and so no one is saying. No one's apologized to him. mm-hmm no one's acknowledged his feeling so it's like for him to do what he did. I'm not surprised that he just right. Because it's kind of like in this game you keep getting shut out. We all know comics or whatever with getting opportunities for other reasons. You know the gatekeeper czar. And so we've all had people do crappy things us then. It's your choice is on utilizing how long you like. I've had people tell me. Hey Man eh you got to be more of an asshole. You're too nice so they keep looking pass you because they know you're not going to say nothing but I'm almost sixty five black man so if I if I do do anything My anxiety is that that's going to be blown out. We knew he was like that. You know what I'm saying. So we're going to define him now. If I was five eight then I could be. You know so just just you ain't GonNa give me an actor. I could beat because he's just little tiny owing over there. You know what I mean but this this whole dance so I I just feel like you know. I'm I'm not surprised about what he did. Yeah if we're talking about into order to get get a job. He could have worn the right things done right things then got on the field and all that stuff would have come out all the owners could have been like he wasn't good. They all saw him and he wasn't good. We all saw the same thing but say you. What though he would if if? Wow now. Who's WHO's owners? Al Davis he was love. Love playing at the raiders. Right now I think I think it would be to. This was if this was that era like man come on like if there was some statue of Liberty Team Eh. All of your time he would be on that squad and they would all play with deep in the playoffs. Shows you where the NFL is now and where they're elitist start because the NBA is a differently in the NBA. where I can't breathe? There garnered more than a court smart to let to let the players feel like They can execute acute their first amendment rights. Does it hurt the NBA. That they are like that no it does not in any way shape for because I think the fan base of the NBA is a lot more multicultural. Kapernick one nest Super Bowl. None of this would have been. I think you might go right if you won that Super Bowl. You couldn't say anything because he actually. Yeah because he actually. Actually we won the game. And then how did he keep took over. A starting quarterback spot carry that team on his back deep into the playoffs. If I asked play man if you one one I love about the NF what. I love about the what's happening to the NFL right near where the two best players in the League or fighting for the MVP right now. It's not the Brady quarterbacks John Watson and the March Zack's wire they because ABM homes and May Have Pat Mahomes Jew. But he was her. There's the margin I'm telling you. These guys are playing in a way that they said in my opinion racial. I remember racial undertones. Overtones told that like Oh. You can't be that quarterback here when truthfully you could Vince Young for his first year here where he got Newton. Yeah Yeah Yeah. I'm saying that like Lamar Jackson specifically they said you should your small Zita do what you do have. Finally the League is coming to. You know what it is. You know what's happening football. What happened in basketball when Before the jump shot you know what was going on so you stand in and I stand here and just dump now. You can't do that like I do to do a dumpsite you know what I mean. Just everybody laugh with and I'm a jump the outlawed dunking for three. Because everybody does. Whoa what's going on here only a certain group and it was all these little subtle oh slowdown metaphor for America is America is? I'M GONNA take America's just slow to change but the changes here and it's all these cats every. ECS's caskey knocking on the door. And I'll tell the fantasy football so what's amazing about it and why this change is going to take hold right now as real fantasy football means that there are people out there who aren't Baltimore Ravens. Fans who have Lamar Jackson as their guy and they're saying you've got a guy out in Oakland who doesn't give a shit about the ravens but it's like that's my my guy suddenly that's his guy and then he's the number one pick in everybody's drafting your Santa Shawn Watson Care about the Texans are they. How many what's their record? I couldn't even tell you that's my got so it's making fantasy football baking player making stars out of guys outside of their mark so I do think that that might open it up for. Are you know a chance for the League to be like. Hey man we gotta start. We can't say that a pro style quarterback the pro style quarterback could be a pro quarterback. Is Lamar Jackson. A pro quarterback is Shawn Watson. What's your quarterback is Russell Wilson Guy? Who is not six foot four? No He's five ten five eleven maybe six feet atop that dude wins you games. Why because scrambling scrambling ability in rules changes? How you can touch the quarterback all is like this perfect storm of someone without ability to come in? Now it's kind of like how to the. NBA is changed to. We're it's a three point league nats three everything is like like I couldn't imagine run that much playing like in high school. You know what I mean like having to cover damn at half court. Yeah that's a Lotta spaceman and so it's just a different. I mean people take their sport seriously as you know Notre Dame Fan. Oh yeah story right now and again because we bet you bet you decide. It's rough being a bengals. Goes Fan right for every story. Those are the Browns Ohio they are now. The BROWNSVILLE bengals fan makes crazy bet in his now stuck doc living on restaurant roof until the win the team vitamins game. It says it's cold did we have last. Yes this is is going to be a movie. Saddam Guide yes tangles twenty six twenty three loss to the cardinals. New Thought they were GONNA be yes they were GONNA win. 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But I'M GONNA stick with my word and eventually they have to win. I don't Know Oh oh and sixteen this bengals yeah. He talks next year. Larry keep him up their game. Scout Outdo preseason game counts okay finally and this is crazy. NBA Three point specialist. Drug tested after rare dunk. Did any green touches the roof and brings down the house. And then you gotTa Pinochle know. What I'm saying like be a spot? dougie buckets buckets. If Doug McDermott threw down like a crazy time. They'd be like start paying jobs Danny Green a guy who's like a great three point shooter again. Defender Alan piece to the Lakers right zone. He's it's weird though. Sometimes it's easy. Yes but like in the months when his one yawn with San Antonio won hands down but he also defended even like a lot of people. Don't play defense so he dunks and they're like we got what's here I want to compliment. That's actually how nimble the NBA is areas nimble man. It'd be through at this year. The China stuff. Jesus crazy right there you go there it is there it is funny story for you get okay. This is about the whole guy saying his way right from his family. Yes you fly a lot. Sheriff you guys have had. You'll see someone sitting in you. Mind if I see with my husband and I had it happen to me and I looked at the hug. Oh I like like to give you saw happy in a middle seat just like I get might say. Hey just be like he will let the airline you know. They're not doing that. And he's refusing to listen to the exit row saying of the airline nine eleven evident break. Eleven sound guy wants to get downgraded from business class coach. Please love that that Shit. All right I'm GONNA play this old school on take a break. If you heard it the dream warriors to remember this. I know I know some people dance like this. Oh and Smith would smith for real on the twitter Instagram facebook and only Smith Live live on. Go see him. You will be happy as one of our thank you guys. I'm on dump people town. 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And we're not poked my head out of turns out that I I was in a trash can Inside the Houston Astros Dugout. And I you know I pick my head out and I just see a bunch of ballplayers and there's a computer on top of my head now. If I had a nickel for every time I woke up with computer on top of my head. That's just say that I would have seventeen million dollars it but also let me just say that you know I was just trying to get some sleep. I mean y you just let I'm in my late eighties. I'm very old man and I just need my sleep in my wrist. So you know I I just said you know that I was in the trash K it and they were definitely banging on things and say curve ball and strike and I was just like shut the hell up and let Kristofferson Sleep God damn it but they did not s thin. So that's why you know two years later. Now as I fully come to and have full recollection. 'cause I've been on a two year vision quest outside out of Cairo. 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S8 E2 Live from Vegas!
"This is the better nationally. I almost missed podcast with iheartradio would've forgot to mention is that we're live from the Planet, Hollywood resort and casino in Las Vegas. I'm Ben. I'm Ashley, Ashley, welcome to Vegas. Where were you? You weren't responding to text for like forty, five minutes. Oh, well, sometimes I disappear. Distract. You know what happened actually had this weird thing where we have work to do. We have a podcast to create and make, and I was excited to talk to you, but I got really anxious on the plane. Sometimes when I get over stimulated, I get excited and anxious. And so I found myself getting really anxious because I knew I was going to see all my friends and I knew I was going to be. I've been working for three weeks straight. I've I worked grand doozy this last week in for generous. I was in Lexington, Kentucky the week before we do the podcast. And so for the first time in a in a while, I've had some time off and that's this weekend. And so I found myself. So I was in my room anyways with a couple of the guys down here. And a couple of these guys are going to be the podcast Blake horsemen. Nick vile, Jared, hey, Bon wells atoms. All of them are going to be here. Dean angler was in the room. So we're just celebrating having a great time talking life, missing your tax. I'm sorry. Well, that's cute. That's obviously and I like the like you getting just for that is like just something that as an adult, you don't really experience very often. The issue ash is this is an issue. Is anybody out there listening, please Email, say been a nationally iheartmedia dot com. I when when like something like this happens, I get really excited and then I do get anxious and I don't know how to control my excitement. Like I start like, I just want to have a good time like I just want to have a lot of fun and I don't know how to have. I. I want to start having fun now and I don't know how to start having fun now. And so I just like into pacing. Wonder when the last time my life that was that I felt something my weird. No, no, no, no. I actually envy you because I used to be more like that, but I was like, get older. It's less and less. Maybe I was really excited to go down to Mexico when Jared and I ended up getting engaged, but I just thought we were going to go down to. Dyson share friends there and to relive that a bit. So I think that was the last time I got hyped like that. I just I don't know. These are good people. This is a good group. We have Vegas this time just not even like good people because like what does that mean? Who knows? I mean, that's a very objective term just like fun people. People that I've shared good memories with in life before, you know, I've you down here and you're extremely special to me. I'm Jared who, you know, hopefully later when he comes on the podcast, we can talk about how special he is the me because Nick, Nick, and I have done a ton together dean who's been to Honduras with me a place that means a ton and Blake who who lives in Denver who I've got no better and and I think it's a great asset to the bachelor franchise and then well, I mean, wells Adams and I had maybe the most memorable night I've had in years where I was in Nashville, Tennessee. He invited me to stay with him. I sat on his couch, we drank bourbon and listen to old records and Jason Isabel. That's interesting. That's what he does on dates. Exactly. Easy, talk life and shared and just like, I don't know. So anyways, this is exciting group for me. I'm pumped to be here. We have all these people and more coming on the podcast today, Ashley. Yes, Ben Vegas is going to be crazy. Yeah, you you are somebody who like once you hit big, is you actually get that mindset of what happens in Vegas? Stays in Vegas like you get a little cronk. I do. Oh, the whole time all the time. I'll be black jacking be obese smoking a cigar. Listen to music. I'm going to have a great time. You know why, though? There's a reason why. One of my role models in life was Anthony, bourdain, love, Anthony, bourdain, because he loved people really well. He loved food and he loved moments and memories really well in. So I dream of creating so many memories and moments in my life that I can look back on that when I'm seventy years old, I can go. And somebody mentioned, actually, I can ETI member when you do that. Cast with Ashley haven, and I'm going to say, yeah, and this one time he was a crazy story that we had in Vegas together. I dream of that. That's my that almost makes me tear up thinking that I'm going to have that moment one day where I'm gonna look back on this and say, I had this memory and this moment in my life with this person. And so Anthony bourdain had this quote when he did no reservations when he came to Vegas and Vegas is weird and it's it's a little messed up and it's a little polluted and colluded and there's kind of -tations around it. And he said, one of the best things about Vegas is that people come here to create memories. And so I guess I come here to create some memories and try to have the best time possible with the people around me, and that's a, that's my mindset this weekend. That's such a nice mindset. I used to be scared of, I guess. You know, my first Vegas trip was actually two years ago at the iheart festival, and I did not know what to expect. I drove here by myself. I checked into the huts However I sell. And then I was like, you know, this is not a scary as I thought it was. I just thought it was going to be like a whole bunch of drunk people. Walking around, but really, no, it's just a lot of dining, a lot of entertainment and it's the moment I met you for the first time. No. Oh, I remember you coming up. I remember walking to my bedroom and you're laying already friends at that point. Oh, well, that's why I went to your room because I was having a an issue and I was like, who am I going to feel comfortable around? Well, I saw you there and I found you in my bed with my ex fiance, Lauren, talking live in sharing memories. Yeah, and and that's where not wear maybe, but it's a moment that blossomed our friendships today. Memory I have when you and Lauren went to bed and I was left with crystals out in the family room of your system. That's when he kissed me. Okay. You guys went to bed before the room service came. Yeah, miss me a Luke in Chris, and then Luke laughed, and then it was just me and Chris eating all the the leftover room service, and then we walked over to the other wing of the hotel to our rooms. I forgot that I wear the ones that I still have the ones either Ashley, I love. Hi, and I thought that was the cutest video ever over your. Those are good memories. Ash. We order room service to get our food, but there's easier ways there's with at home. Does it easier ways at home? You're right, this blue apron blue Apron's pretty great. I mean, they really is. It's it's funny. We say it probably every single podcast. I don't think there's ever been a sponsor of our podcast that you and I both don't use and also will put our word in name behind. Totally true. I actually when people say, you know, what do you actually feel about your sponsors? I'm like, well, there's this. There's that, and there's that, and they're all pretty awesome. Yeah, they're vetted. Well, I don't think everybody not any brand can sponsor our podcast. It has to be the best brands and blue apron definitely does that you choose. Chef designed recipes yourself. They deliver fresh seasonal, inspired ingredients, cook, incredible meals in less than twenty minutes this week. I had six days at home and you know this, I travel all the time it. Gosh, that's a long time. Time. And so I had a box of blue apron show to my door. You know, nice. It is when I have limited amount of time at home and it's getting to be evening time. I don't wanna go out. I want to be at home and it's like I've got the meal already planning to go to the grocery, so don't have waste. That's a big deal for me. It's not a big deal because every time I go fresh food shopping, like, you know, for produce, I always have so much leftover that goes bad and with blue apron, you're going to have just the amount that you need for the recipe. You're making its when now a Jared living with you. It's gotta be nice because living alone is tough. Well, you have leftovers. I have a tunnel leftovers and I can't use them all up. Okay. Let me tell you a little bit about blue apron. Blue apron offers a range of recipes bursting with flavor, whether you're looking for a quick and easy meals or full Kleiner cooking experience. Blue apron lets you choose from arrange of recipe options. Chef designed recipes and exciting, September partnerships like Bob's burgers inspired and hold thirty approved. All right. So here's what you gotta do. Check out this week's menu and get your first three meals free at blue apron dot com. Slash almost famous that's blue apron dot com. Slash almost famous to get your first three meals. What for re Blake, Brin a better way to cook. Got a little sassy, isn't it? Do you love. No, I also have them sponsored on the, I don't get it back out and when I finish it, I'm like a better way to cook just because you say it like that it's it's, it's more fun that way. I, I do feel like a little SAS. This little SAS works. Ashley, you've noticed this. I've been looking good lately. My posture. My posture's been incredible. I have. I've, I've grown and that's my posture. And because of how I sleep at night and the large part due to sleep number. I sleep on a sleep number bed. So do you? Yeah. And and we love our sleep number beds. What's your sleep number. Sixty nine. I like it pretty well. I like it pretty soft. So poor, Jared. But I, he moving on for jokes. I. Ben, your teeth look, amazing. I, yeah, I did. Okay. Well, I've had a really bad allergies or some sort of chronic sinusitis lately, and thank God for the sleep number. It has the elevated setting so I can be. You know, I could be sleeping a little bit more upright because what I'm totally flat. I have the worst congestion. Why is that? I looked it up yesterday. It's very hard to explain. Okay, perfect. Really not gonna get into the science. It's not even that scientific. It doesn't even make sense. The sleep number's great. I mean, it's not only a great mattress. It's comfortable. It's customized to you, but so many couples disgree mattress firmness. You've met it with Jared. We've talked about it before sleep. Number beds, let you choose your ideal firmness on each side. So it's just right for the both of you. The new met beds are so smart. They since your every move autumn adjust to you keeping you sleeping comfortably throughout the night. If you're a fan of what we're talking about, or if you're a fan of structure, not structure like you're a fan of Blake, who's not a fan. It'd be like more your fan of of somebody like me come in and see the newest sleep. Number three sixty smart beds. It's your competitive edge from nine ninety nine a bed. Sleep number is the official sleep and wellness partner of the NFL who it's fantasy season. I'm onto, you'll only find sleet number at one of their five hundred fifty sleepnumber stores nationwide, visit sleepnumber dot com. Slash podcast. The find the one nearest to you. Actually we have somebody near us right now. It's Blake horsemen we have him in the hot seat. It's like you're not the bachelor just said it's his first podcast ever deal. Big deal. All right. Take a deep breath. Why nervous. It's just flew in a plane together to Vegas. It's not as. We did Blake, and I just jumped on a plane from Denver, flew to Vegas on Southwest Airlines. It was great. You didn't go on private suite jet sweet jet sleet with Lance Bass and Jana Kramer. Is that what you didn't? Yeah, I'm feeling pretty cool. I like literally texted in our group threat Amy's like, don't forget to tail lands. He's coming in the car with you guys. And I was like, Lance, on our play anyway. Let alone land. It's all about Blake right now. Like how have you been seriously? I don't mean like, hey, how's your heart been? Yeah. No. I mean right now I'm a good place. I am. I'm in a really good place. The healing process was long. I mean, it was not gonna act like overnight. I felt better all of a sudden. It was. I had some good support around me and everything. I feel a lot better. Was it better or worse? Watching it back. So that's what screw question. So he'll more watching it back or less. Did it break you apart again? So honestly, watching it back, it broke every Monday it did. It wasn't like it was taken away 'cause I gotta see the connect. She was making with the other the other guys in Garin in specific, but it wasn't really until after the final rose really where I was like, well, I mean, I been healing, but it wasn't talked to rose where I felt lake where I felt like the door was closed. It really wasn't. It was and it wasn't even when I saw her actually was more of when I saw them together really, really was because you don't see them together when we're going through the process, you don't. So it was more when I saw them together on the couch is when I was like, okay, like they're happy amount. I'm ready move on. There was a Blake in I met right after the show side of stopped filming. And I told actually this off of the podcast, we were just talking on the side. I one thing I respected about you. I don't know if this is Henry spectra, appreciate or admire or. Feel is you felt more for Becca than any contestant that hasn't been chosen than ever seen you. You felt this one like this was this wasn't just a show. This wasn't just a disappointment. This wasn't just a break-up. This was something that hit hard. He were the most in love runner-up I think about, yeah. I mean, yeah, I was. I was really in love. I was. I remember after that first date which you actually you're on after that first day, I remember going back to my room, you know it was like three in the morning, whatever four in the morning. I remember laying in bed going, no way that just happened. You know, this is happening the way this is real. You know what I remember sitting there dislike. Wow. This is happening USO. Yeah. And backup. We're both like, oh yeah, we're gonna get to top foreign. She was like, yeah, he's gonna get top for. Yeah, it was. It was a weird instant connection. We had. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was tough that those last few weeks, we're obviously very hard on me. It was big. I feel it and and everybody up there. Listening is fans of the bachelor. We're not gonna. We're not going to confuse ourselves here and say, we have this wide range of people who aren't fans of the bachelor. We have a half million people. Listen that are all fans of the bachelor their fans have you because you felt to their fans at Jason and their fans are Colton. You and Jason were not chosen as bachelor. That's a shock that everybody out there listening. They really kinda was we, we're really all thought it would be one of you to how to somebody. Okay. Let's walk somebody through the process of you get broken up with your in this limbo stage. Not knowing what's next. You chose not to date. You chose not to hook up. You chose this this path of. I'm going to kind of wait it out to see what's next. So you're six months later, you find out you're not the bachelor. You've gone six months of your life in limbo, and we're just spitting out now. Right? Your this is your second week of doing being in public after not being. Ounce of the bachelor, how is that? Yeah. I mean, that was the hardest part was not knowing there for like how I don't even know. Yeah, it was like four months there since filling was ended. Yeah, we're just not knowing that was the worst part. It wasn't whether I wasn't really worried whether I was or wasn't. I just wanted to know if I was or wasn't. And so when I got that call, you know that I wasn't going to be the way it was a lot of weight off my shoulders. I didn't realize how much it was weighing on me until I got that. That call where it was like, you know, we're going with Colton and I was like, okay, and I was able to take a breath and I was like, okay, I can go back to like almost more or less living the regular life that I used to did you and Jason bond over. Maybe the misery of not being picked out of the bachelor, and then having somebody that a lot of people didn't expect. I think people were like, let's see. Colton grow. He can be part of the franchise for the next couple years. Maybe he'll be a bachelor one day, but definitely not this year. And then all of a sudden you and you and Jason seem like the front runners for the bachelor, and then you're like, Nope, not free. You. Yeah. I mean, I'd be lying to you if it wasn't. I wasn't. I thought for sure is Jason. Yeah, yeah. So it was surprising. It was something that I think we've definitely bonded over me. Jason are very good friends. Thank is the first time they've ever they've ever really had three people like this who are so transparent through the whole process. What I have to say. This is the first time in a long time that they had a good amount of options they could have gotten with any of the three of you. And then we'll see the past two years. They actually pick from reasons. Let's good through my year. They're like, we have nobody else. Oh, this kid really. Who else would they have had God for you behind us, right. Jared, if it weren't for you being on Caitlyn season Jarod definitely could have been the bachelor that neared who would have known who knows that sucks for you. I know thank God. I mean, I agree. I think this is one of the, and of course that's what they told us. You know any other, you'd be that kind of thing. You know, they give you those lines, but because it was, we were so incredibly transparent. The whole thing we told each other, the meetings we had the phone calls we had with each other. The phone calls we have with producers, we even transparent through the whole thing, and we'd let each other know we didn't want anybody who left in limbo. So we let each other know exactly what we knew when we knew it. And I think they had never really had that before and they're a little surprised by that. So so yeah, they, they couldn't really get. They couldn't really try and be sneaky with us. Really, we'll Blake you're out in Vegas right now. I heard fast. Colton, this filming a show. He's probably crying. Why you and Jason are both out here with the coolest people live with which is injured. In your time is now and you know how I know that is because of my movement watch you guys have heard me talk about movement. You know those two college dropouts that started their own watch company will they helped us tell time and Blake, you're pretty good at. It was going to say it's time for Blake, officially move on? Yes, I am ready. Yes. Is it? Are you ready to move on? I'm ready to move on. I'm ready to get back on that horse. That's I keep telling me. I think I think there you go. This company has grown like crazy and now with almost two million watches sold in one hundred and sixty countries. Blake, you have one on right now. I have one on right now. We look cool wearing them. They can be worn in Vegas. 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Yeah, I'll bet what pants generous. All right. Blake back to you, Ashton. I've always been fans of you always put off nice. Just really, honestly Blake the most right reasons person I've seen in a very long time like there isn't no doubting that you were there for the genuine article, and I think that's why you would have made a fantastic, bachelor because we know that you'd like e wanna wife before you want fan. Yeah, I do. I do. Okay. We'll tell us about what you're looking forward to girl. And if you'd ever date a fan. Easy, easy. What I'm looking for a woman. So I, I think the reason I was so attracted to Beker southbound I'm in cruelly attracted to strong independent women and like that's what guys say, no, but I swear. And they go on a date with strong independent women and they're like, oh, no, I need somebody more soft eminent and I always have. So I have like incredibly strong women in my life. I grew up my mom, my sister, grandma all my women in my life. So that's kind of what I gravitate towards. And so that's that's what I'm looking for. You, right? A lot of guys do say them, you're not one of one of those guys. Yeah. No, I do. And somebody who's funny in witty and who's not afraid to like clapback if you owe clapback put me on a place and, and yeah, someone who can hang with the guys to, you know, that kind of thing. That's a lot, I guess, just described like the perfect woman, but she sounds great. I'm engineers, amazing scene, clad back at it definitely exists. She's out there somewhere. She's out there somewhere. And then as far as a fan. Yeah, I wouldn't be. I mean, yeah, there's like you don't want to get total fan girl who comes up to you and fan girl, but like if she's classy about it and you know she watches the show. Yes, like watches the slow show. And yeah. I mean, like I said, I'm not. If we hit it off and like I feel I feel that connection and absolute. It doesn't matter if she's a fan on. Have you felt that. Since Becca has been hard being out in public and meeting people. Have you felt a connection or any type of like, are you even open to it now? Yeah, I was funny because at one time we did have talked about, like, how's it dating now? Because I can't even imagine what it's like dating now because it is hard to find like to know if the girl you're dating is there you know, as a fan girl or who somebody's generally interested you and not only that, but you go out and you have a drink or you go out and have dinner, and you see people snapping pictures of you. And I'm like, this is the most bizarre thing I've ever. You know, this is so weird to me, so it's difficult. Yeah, I'm definitely open to the idea of dating in. Absolutely. As of now I'm single and everything. So I haven't found anybody yet. If a girl saw you in a bar, she was a fan or she just thought you're cute. What's a good move for her to make on him. So I'm into like shock value. Like I like somebody who will say something ridiculous. Yes, I like somebody who would say something ridiculous and like out of the blue and out of the ordinary. I love that in a woman. So somebody who has that shock value is something I'm into big time I came in. So your life today though, isn't very shocking. You went back to your job, which is something to Ashton. I definitely respect you went back to work. You're working at Coors and life is very similar to what it was before you took the advice in Ashley, how many times have you heard me talk about this? Chris, Harrison, gimme a word of advice right after I got kicked off the bachelorette and it was us all of this to enhance life. You already had not changed life you. You were given Arison. He's just a good, he got it. He's got, and I told that to Blake, I'd exists only thing. I know it's how to say. I've just copy everybody else and make it sound like my own. I said at the Blake when we were together right after the show and and he lives in Denver, and I live in Denver, and when we met up and you've done that right. I mean, you're doing all this. Stuff you're out here with us at iheart fast, which is going to be insane. I'm telling you, this is one of the coolest weekends of the year. There's a ton of good people. It's a blast after this podcast is done. You can let loose and do whatever you do to have fun, but you went back to work and why? I think the biggest thing for me when I got back from the show, I wouldn't like to two or three weeks after I'd got done filming, you know, and I went back and I'm just like, stared at the wall, and I was like, I need something to do. So I did go back to work and it gave me a little bit more normalcy because I needed that. I needed that after going through that insane environment and go with that insane journey, I needed some normalcy back of my life. Absolutely. It's also great distraction from heartbreak because the worst thing you could do with heartbreak is sit around the house by yourself and just ponder and think about everything. Absolutely. The what, if and all that. Absolutely. So, yeah, I'm still at Coors and I love it. I do. I don't even know her beer commands be cool job. I would that gig drink beer. Actually, I don't. I used to take a ton of here, but now. Yeah, more of a t now. Tequila. Yeah. So you're that I had to switch. I know that you liked to heal, you should. Yeah. I'm a big Keila at home that I probably won't drink. But like next time here in LA is a pretty healthy guy. Doesn't he? Yeah, he does. He's glowing. Oh, he's got clear and he's saying, I'm twenty nine year twenty nine nine. He looks like he's twenty four and I looked like I'm thirty three. You take vitamins. Don't you lots of IT lots of vitamins. I'm just starting to take them, and it is something that I really love. I think vitamins b ritual me too because they started sponsoring the podcast. I was like, I gotta check him out. I started doing it. It's working. I mean, Ashley, look at me. You look great. And you know what I love about ritual is they have this special patent system where the pill doesn't make you feel bad because it bypasses it's a slow release in tears stomach because I used to not take vitamins because they would always make me nauseous. Yes. And then and then your p. would burn your p burns? Yes, not side effects. That's a personal problem I need is never mind one in every three of you listening right now is wasting your time and money on multivitamins full of ingredients that your body can't actually use actually. So we were talking about, right. I mean, like if you take vitamins, you're actually burns because you shouldn't be taking vitamins. You don't need. No, exactly. And your stomach hurts. Your mind starts hurting. You get dizzy. Life's a mess. When you're taking too many vitamins, traditional vitamins contain full like acid a synthetic nutrient that at least one in three of all women. Yeah. The only vitamin that solves for this is Rachel ritual. They are ritual caters to the women, which I love. They use fully which all women can process because they actually care. No, wait read that stat because it's an fascinating staff about fully traditional vitamins contain fully acid, a synthetic nutrient that at least one in three women of all women cannot process the only. Women that solves for that is ritual. They use fully which all women can prostate process because they actually care about ingredient forms and that magical it is. They re they care. Yeah, I care you care, Ashley. Blake. We're still trying to figure that out. Make vitamin that works for all women, not just some. And you've been taking ritual, it's been great for you so good. It's been really good for my energy levels and digestion because I, I really, I'm honestly, I hit thirty and all of a sudden I'm tired all the time. I never used to be tired, but but the ritual stuff has really been helping me. You gotta get some energy. You've got a big dancing at ahead of, you know, about a year, a big dancing night, your wedding. Yeah, I know I got one night in a year. Maybe some more. Who knows. All right. So which ritual is essential for women? Okay. Here's some stats. I'm gonna talk to you about vegan sugar-free, non GMO gluten free and allergen free. They're made in the USA without synthetic fillers or colorants. It just like Ashleigh, said a little bit go there, delayed release, capsules bypasses the stomach to help for prevent nausea. Subscription-based no gap in nutrient levels. It's thirty dollars a month and delivered to your door by no mega three yourself is the cost of the ritual bomber to go to the vitamin store and you buy it omega bottle. 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I start started to come back, but it does when I get like saying it too many times like raw are so anyway, sorry about that. Guys. It's ritual are not u. a. l. didn't sound right at the time anyway. It's like you're the best have a blast I fast. Well, we we want you to have a good time. Ashton arid here to hang out. You are a honestly, and I mean this, you are a great addition to the bachelor family, and you will do great things in this world because of the platform you were given. So Blake get out there doing credible wish they haven't been tritiated. Are the next guest on. The podcast is a crazy podcast. Ashley is gonna take a break, and we're going to fill in with with two very lucky winners. The two of you welcome to the almost famous podcast. You both won the contest that was announced by all the bachelor peeps iheart put it on. They raise money for humanity and hope United, which is a nonprofit that I'm on the board of that I've been associated with for eight years. It's it's near dear to my heart, and you guys are now out here for I heart fast celebrating along with us. How did you get here and who signed you up. That's a great question. Are mom Linda actually signed us up. I actually went to Honduras in July and Jordan, fuller, and Carol where my leaders and I had the most life changing experience my best friend for he's a great guy. I love Jordan. Do you know Pete? I know Pete very well dude. Okay. So I don't want to get off traffic, but so yeah, basically when to sign us up, she's in Honduras right now and. She gave us her tickets and we've got phone out here and get, you know, Joan with Ben and all the bachelor people. And it's it's a really cool gig basically. Yeah. So I hurt festival was was kind enough nice enough generous enough to do a fundraiser for me where not for me, but for the the organization, I'm associated with humanity. Hope United where we did raffle and we said, hey, we're going to give a couple all access passes free tickets to the festival, which is this festivals insane. I'm telling you this thing is one of the coolest things ever the show the lineup every day is awesome. They're going to we raffled off tickets. U2. one this humanity. Hope United does community development Central America and humidity. Hope you've heard me talk about this before in the podcast, but we believe in sustainable change. We believe people can fulfil dreams and their needs by not being gifted anything, but by by people, partnering with anybody with with the motivation of love to help people become the best version of themselves. And so what a cool thing I did and and he many hope is an awesome organization that a lot of people today in of people listening support, we all know they're great. We know I Hartz great, but you to our great and you're going to have an awesome weekend together. What does it feel? Is this your first iheart fest? Yeah, I'm excited surreal. I've never been so I don't know what to expect. I don't know really what to expect. It's kind of surreal right now. So soak in exile. It's going to be a good time. When did you get out here? We just got out here. Our go. Oh, no way. Yeah. So it's been a long. Okay. It's been a long day. We're at the Planet, Hollywood resort, and. Casino the festivities start tomorrow, correct? Yes. Yeah. Carrie Underwood. No way. Yeah, Saturday morning. Yeah, I don't get you spoke show man. I'm telling you married to Microsoft. You're going to get to meet a lot of people. I mean, it's kind of the cool part about I heart fest is people are walking around everywhere. Everybody celebrated enjoying this. I mean, we Lance Bass over here behind us from instinct on the podcast. Yeah, yeah. So we got the instinct guys walking around a ton of people doing awesome things in the two of you. Welcome to Las Vegas, welcome to the almost famous podcast. Thank you both for supporting humidity, hope United. And you know what sometimes in life you do great things and you went to Honduras with the team? I did. You worked hard. You've seen it, you're passionate, you come back. What was your biggest takeaway from from Honduras? My biggest takeaway from Honduras was that these people that live out there and these villages, they basically have nothing like it. Barely of just got them clean water in some of the villages. To have these homes that are barely builds up, and there are so happy and so on fire for God. And it's it's so inspiring because every like you go back to America and you know you, you're living your normal life and you don't even think twice to get clean water or or even take a shower or even whatever it is. And these people have none of that, and they are so happy in his fire, and it just really was life changing moment. Honestly, your your heart breaks and you see poverty for the first time. And here's the coolest part as humane hope. United believes that people will have to live in poverty forever forever that the every person deserves and hope, and that every person is is here for a purpose on purpose. And and when you back a year from now, I hope that those communities that you saw a couple of weeks ago are in a better place and they were, you know this year, so, hey, guys have a blast this weekend. Enjoy. Okay. Before you leave, who you most excited to see. JT Justin. Timberlake, of course, he's a big deal. I gotta look at the the line. Oh yeah, it's it's time to start enjoying this weekend. So, hey, I'm gonna bring back in. Oh, wow, good for you. When we actually back in, thanks for coming on the podcast. Enjoy yourselves like you have no other reason to be here, but to celebrate and enjoy yourselves. Go say hi to Lance. Take a picture. Your friends will like it. Thank you, both. Thank you. Our next guest is one that you're all familiar with somebody. You're not going to be shocked to hear their voice. He's still wandering flirting the being cute like he does dean ugly. Welcome to the podcast. Separate? I don't. I was going to be here with my co host, Jared. No, you're not going to be for Jared us about us right now. Hey, having been on our podcast since you've got all cool and got your own. It's been a year since I've been on this podcast. It's been six months since I've seen one of my great friends, Ashley, we six months might be an exaggeration, but it's been a really, really long time, and it has felt really wrong. It's been too long since I've seen my other great friend, Ben Higgins, we all has a special place in my heart. He knows this. I love dean dearly. We've all just got moved apart from each other, but let's be real. We've all been all over hers. Don't want to think that you went on like a whole worldwide tour. And then he has been on a country where I torn. I've been balancing between the easiest, get married and stuff. Don't get me wrong. I respect everyone's initiatives that they have on a regular basis. I just missed my friend. I really missed you growing apart. I feel like has never faded. Apologize, kind of friendship where I don't need to see all the time. But then when I do see you, we'll just wrote bounce right back sometimes question whether or not I'm going to get invited to the wedding what I know, and it's like, I don't talk to actually, I told you that obviously once a week on my date, you're my plus one. Yes. I'll give you a little exclusive here. We're not having a ton of bachelor nation at the wedding, but obviously, you guys are two given. I've got an issue with dean and he knows what's about to be talked about Ashley. We haven't talked about this yet. I don't know if I'm ready tape. First off, I show up to this new reunion with Dini as an earring, which I don't get always had an earring though. I, nobody's wearing a stud because he's in Vegas. He says, the second note is it. The second I saw him, I go. The second piece my when I was ten years old, it was visiting from jersey. I lived in Colorado. She made me get my year period on my left here. One piercing got it. Pierce comeback years later when I was eighteen in high school and I was trying to be the cool guy. So I got to diamond studs on either ear, but I had to move the left ear, piercing up more. So I had a repeater sit. So I have always had to piercings in my left ear and just recently decided to come out and continue to wear them to piercings in one year. Anyways, I actually think it looks really good on him. Of course, it does second ninety back on everything looks good on it. It's what makes me Mattis is like he can do your second point. My second point is this dean told me it would weird Honduras together with humidity hope United, which is the organization that we life. It was amazing hands down. It was awesome that he doesn't wear underwear. Just like we know that. No, no, no. Just famously like Colin just sit on paradise. He hasn't wherever I always were unaware, but because I love dean and I really Cup to deny, I think dean's. Awesome. I at the time decided subconsciously, I'm gonna stop wearing underwear. So here's what happened one day. I'm at the gym doing squats, and I realized that doing squats in the gym without underwear with shorts on doesn't work like it just doesn't. There's no way this works as a as a man. This this doesn't feel right. It doesn't fit. I was thinking splitting, but now that you say, yeah, things happen. Things can pop out hop out, slide down, get pinched. It's bad. And so I call dean right away. I said, dean, I don't get it. How do you work out with other wording out? No, no. He goes, oh, no, I work out. He goes. I just wear underwear when I said, well, that's the, you lied to me that because you, here's the second point. Okay. So I start wearing jeans without underwear and is uncomfortable. You get used to it. It's sweaty. It's it's weird. You have to get calloused in areas. You never want to get out. Why would try because I want to be like dean. Okay. I get a text two weeks ago. He can admit to this from a mutual friend of ours, Tiffany, and she goes just to let you know Deen's wearing underwear tonight. Not that she, she's married, but he majored to tell her test Ben. I was playing golf with Tiffany's husbands. Yeah. And when I when I partake husband, yes, who we were at their wedding actually long ago whenever I do anything to let it whether it's going to the gym playing golf playing basketball, I'll always wear a compression underwear thing, whether it's short of compression pants. I don't know. I'm sorry for not making that we've gone this out. Now I'll tell you right now until all the listeners. Listen to this right now, I'm wearing a pair of jeans, not wearing a pair of underwear and eat them. Yeah, it's all is circumstantial. And every single time I say, I don't wear underwear always comes with an Asterix, and I apologize for not being more clear to you. And we found that out after after months and months of rug burn, I'm not going to go ahead and go to the gym and goes some do some squats because obviously we don't want everyone's business out for the world to see this was a bad barstool video waiting to. Just like a jackass video to understand how you men don't wear underwear with jeans. We do. I just imagined us not because being guided me in the wrong direction. I felt like you do like I just said, I'm wearing jeans right now. I'm not wearing underwear. It's liberating victim about the zipper in the roughness, the free, the nip campaign, think about very similar. Think about why under our might have been invented and think about who invented it. I think it was the laundry detergent connoisseurs God together and they're like, we need humans to have more clothes to wash. What could we do? What could we do? They're already wearing pants are always wearing shirts. What else can we tell them? They needed to where they need to be wearing underwear. Oh, if they wear more underwear, they'll have to use more detergent if they use more detergent, we make more money, but being bought a boom, Dan underwear came into existence. Our loved dean, you know that underwear came along way before detergent. I don't know. I don't know Pooley's well, hey, dean. We have been opened up these packages recently, their boxes that are pretty incredible. They're full of products. Tell me about these boxes or sooner or later they're going to come out and underwear is going to be involved dean. We need you to tell us about fat. Pit fun haven't heard about, are you kidding me? Well, what's amazing about that is that the box is worth over two hundred dollars every time you get a relying. Yeah, actually it can go up to like four hundred dollars, but you're going to get it for thirty nine ninety nine with our code which is almost famous. You wanna know. One thing I took for granted initially when I started getting that fund was the Himalayan sea salt drink it to you putting your dream Kimber. That's the thing I took it for granted because I thought you had to cook with it at a pinch of it's your water every morning. It's so mineral beneficial to your body it. I had no idea. Yeah, I do it every morning. Now you say drink. He said, cook. And I said bay. No said, I thought you had to cook with it, but now. You can add your drinks at your water every morning, a pinch of it, it helps you. It helps you. You're buying lottery and water and adds minerals. And so now if you looked at my fingers there a little puffy because I'm hydrated because I always feel like when I'm puffy, I'm dehydrated, no, in some weird way. I think that's we live in Denver. You have to stay hydrated. That's true. You beyond the Himalayan sea salt though. There's also other things like skin care from glam glow, Kate Somerville, Dr, NGOs, beauty fashion items for Vince Komodo Komodo and free people, which I love free people. Free people got the cutest close and what they have in the fact that fun boxes are these amazing sleep masks and not only does it cover your is completely and you don't get any sunlight. No matter house on the room is it also has this little gel insert that you could put a cooling a cooling insert and it deep puffs, your eyes, and you know, I love it. I used to have dean, go put d. Puffer on his eyes and he like was into it, but be careful of those. I'm asks, you don't want to mess up your circadian rhythm too much. It's something that we. We're all reading about. I just the first one to say, anyways. I know this is not my podcast. This is not my podcast, but I'm encouraging you as a listener to go to fund dot com. Use the code almost famous. You can save ten dollars on your first box making only thirty nine ninety nine for the very first month that you get the box and you're not gonna regret it. Dean of of the past year doing help. I suck at dating your podcast with iheart, thank you so much. You're plugging it. What is it the ultimate thing you've learned about dating? Like, what are you now less suck yet? I think that it'd be pretty consistent for me to say that I'm just better at communicating. I was actually just talking to Ben about this in the elevator. On the way down here is much more able and willing to communicate my either like hesitancy enter into relationship or concerns about a specific relationship that I might be entering into. And it's something that I would always trying to like gloss over or ignore in the past, and it's something that I've been much more willing and able to talk about now, a lot of that is because of the podcast, right, like a lot of cancer. Is it because you're not the bachelor, or are you just getting older? Well, it's it's the chicken and the right, like podcast came from a bachelor, which exactly. So it's like all these things that come together to. I don't know. I still feel like I have a lot to work on this still the podcast retains its name for a specific reason. But communication I just gotten so much so much better, which is good for me. And like I'll notice myself like being really good at it and like I'll get home from like a date or something. I'll put myself on the back and be like good job. Do you do. Wendy. When will the podcast named switch to like? I'm dean. I'm great at dating. I don't think I think I'll be ten years. I'll be married with three kids living the life that I've always wanted to live. And I'll still have a podcast called the help I suck at dating and then ideal world. That's what it'll be. I always plan on having it if it's not about me, it's about the listener, and that's kind of how I've kind of perceived at this point. So isn't it funny that a year and a half ago may was our one year anniversary. We started this podcast journey and now this is so much part of our lives Ashley night talking about it all the time is how now we're known for almost famous podcast and not necessarily the bachelor bachelorette isn't it crazy how this whole thing with iheartradio has switched to being are kind of new identity or a new career? My number one favorite thing I hear to hear, I I love to hear from someone that I meet randomly out in the streets, no matter where it is nine times out of ten. I'll get my God d and you're from the bachelorette like I loved you on your. Season. That's great. I love hearing that my number one favorite thing, no matter what it is is always, oh my God, dean, I loved her podcast. I love listening to it. I love obviously like hearing everything you have to talk about every week. That to me is like the most incredible thing. So I can imagine the same thing that you guys experience when you meet someone say, gonna love, almost fade miss like that. Something that you helped create. You know, it's like it's more you than anything else that you've done in the past. And so that just gives you so much more pride and ownership in it. I always tell people when they say that that is my favorite thing to here. Yeah, it is. It really is, but it feels personal. I guess it feels more personal than somebody saying, hey, we push it, it you on the bachelor who loved him because that is that's a different beast. You're gonna love the bachelor bachelorette you're gonna think there's somebody special and you listen to this, you know that you know, all of us try really hard or not any better than or worse than anybody else out there. We're just trying, you know, work into his life and you are who you are, unedited, unperturbed, whatever it is it's you are who you are. You helped create this thing and people appreciate you. For it. And that's a rare thing that not many people get to experience. And even if you experience it in the most minor or like small amount of Lay's, which sometimes I feel like I do, I get, you know, not quite as many listens as almost famous podcast us, but to even have a such. A small influence on a certain amount of people is such a unique feeling and then so obviously due to blow that up, expand it to to where you guys are. Obviously, you both have been very big, very impactful on the bachelor franchise regardless of whether you want to admit it or not. It's always nice to hear someone cares about what you have to say in something that you helped create, you know. And so to be able to have that effect on people is very, we're very fortunate to be where we are in. I heard fest kind of seems like that reunion that moment to take a step back and be like, what the heck are we doing? Like we're a behind the scenes with, you know, Kelly, Clarkson and Carrie Underwood and Justin. Timberlake, whoa. What do we do in the three people that I'm gonna fan girl up? Yeah, we don't belong here, but yet in some odd way we do right. Deem we love you. You're the best thing. I always have a great weekend with you. Everybody watch out. The. Love you guys. Thank you for having me. Everybody means podcast is going live by the way to Morrow everywhere you can listen to podcast, please be sure to listen to help. I suck at dating if not for me, do it for Jared, do it for Vanessa's do for east in for Mark for Tori for Amy sugarman for everyone else in studio, Ashley. I are. We still her on her fiance is co hosting with me on a another podcast. He really knows how to date really. The next guest. Ashley's a fan of actually. Right now we're positioning ourselves, Jared is gonna come sit on Ashley's lap. He's going to sit. An ashes have been Nick is is going to sit on his own lap. We have Nick vile, have my own shared haven, Jared, is it? Hey, Bon, hey, Ben really pronounced both ways. What's to say haven. Let me say, hey, then because that's what I want. My last name haven. I think it's supposed to be pronounced, hey bomb, but my family's always called it. Hey, are you going to switch your name Ashley? Yeah. Is that weird that you're not gonna be? Actually, I it's gonna be Ashley eight. So I'm not sure, but I think I'm gonna go by Ashley, I but then like have my legal name be actually, hey, doesn't make any sense. It doesn't nothing makes sense in this world. You know what. I feel really bad because her and Lauren or the last two with Aiken. ETI name. Yeah. You're gonna end that Jared nice job. I feel like a jerk. Lauren will be there. I mean, jarash has already wearing the pants. You might as well just let her keep sitting on her lap. I tweeted. I tweeted one time about how every time I go to a hotel, they're like, oh, Mr. icon. Nice gosh, is today. I know. I know it did happen choosing Mr. Canetti just give me my hotel key, please. Unbelievable anyways, Nick injured out here, joining us in Vegas. Jerry. Your podcast is going to air tomorrow at the pool at Planet, Hollywood resort, and casino. Yeah, Dina Nygren recorded live podcast here Planet Hollywood right next to the pool, which we pretty cool help by suck dating guys. Totally check it out. It's great like how to date in Vegas, which I don't think anybody is equipped to answer really. It's like an episode dedicated to safe sex. I mean, we could. We're the right spot for it next to the pool. Idea for your podcast is it does a good topic Nick year in Vegas, celebrating along with. There's a ton of people out here. It's actually pretty loud behind us. I don't know how loud it really is. This is a good group this year. You and I were just in Vegas the other to open up our our slot machine. That's right. We have us lot mission. They're all over Vegas. We had a good time. We lay by the pool together. We talk live. We caught up in. It seems like Vegas is our boy spot. Was that the last time I saw you? Yeah, I think it was the real question is how does it feel for you guys have your face on a slot? Mach-. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna lie humbly speaking. Awesome. Pretty good. Really kick it off. I'm really jealous. It's really, really cool. I'm not gonna. Yeah. It's funny. I get a lotta pictures from my buddy with like them taking a picture at the slot machine, and it's like, this is wild, right that I'm like, it doesn't help that. The scene that's played of me is, is Lauren, I'm making out on a couch that's not fun to be flight, gambling and losing money. And then you look up in the screen and it's like, oh, here's a double, dagger this, but it is kind of other than it being awesome. What bugs you more about the slot machine? The fact that it's you and Lauren making out, you're no longer Loring or all the money. We don't make from the jackpot above like two million dollars and I'm like. We've made zero sense from it. Wait, Nick, what's your video? I don't. Is there a video? I didn't know there was a video. Yeah, it's inter- I, I don't remember. I don't think I'm like smiling or something. It's just looking. I've this honestly don't know. I do remember that it was you and Lauren because it was like there was a make out. It was like awkward awkwardly like intense and so like it's not fun to watch. Oh, yeah. I think it was like a limo entrance or something like. All right. So for every out here and then I'm gonna stop talk because everyone's to hear from you three. I was in a room the other day and my my buddy. Brandon, who's thirty? Seven asked me what Nick Starr uses to keep looking so young because in his opinion and Brandon's married, Nick is a hot guy. Nick for everybody coming from a man big. What is what is. What routine do use? How do you keep yourself looking so good all the time. I mean, I gotta give mom and dad's some props. I don't know if your mom's hot like for a couple people who've been, I know my mom birthd- eleven children, but and she gets all the credit. But like trying to re like, that's a lot of stress even for my dad. I don't know how they still look relatively young, but. Other than that had started saying active. I mean, I'm unfortunately not in a relationship or married and I don't have kids. And while I wish I had, I'm certainly like the level of stress I don't have from that. Maybe. I just honestly just try to. Stay active and have everything in moderation. I don't have any. Unfortunately, I don't have any like secret sauce face. You don't put any cream on your face. Sometimes come on. You don't have a daily process for your face. I don't allow charity. You know. I wish she did. I try to do it for him goes into. I mean, he doesn't need one. Yeah, not as of right now. I thought you were doing the next fully thought Ashley told us in the podcast that you started to the scrub. That was like scrubs he go. She gave me a script so I did get my first facial. That's it. When I left a couple of weeks ago there. As halls. But so when I left, they gave me this scrub that I'm supposed to be using that I haven't used as of yet and apparently to Ashleigh, my black pores are coming back and she's really nervous. It's like Seth. What else? How lack heads lack heads on my nose in apparently these black heads make your nose bigger, which is why older men have like inflamed knows tips. No, she's very concerned about this. Well, your ears and your nose for those who don't know, are the only things on your face that continue to grow that? Yeah, I don't know anything about the blackhead aspect of it, but I do know how actually harm what's my black had situation year. Completely clear. Thank God. I'm not. I do not have nerve it don't. You are now looking. We have a routine Ben. You look great, you know, over routine. I do use lotion also blown away by your lotion, your hair routine. Yeah. So this is a big deal in your hair. They didn't know this since I was in college when I was in college. When I remember this moment I was going to play basketball and my hair was long at times it was a little frizzy. So I put I was looking at my face and I put, I just like, got my hair somehow. And I notice that it was like the perfect texture. So I put a lotion in my hair body lotion, just regular body lotion, and it worked. And then I sweated. Playing basketball into burn my eyes, and it didn't give me that sticky jelly filling. And so ever since then I use for that like a gel like a Joe. In high school when you? Yeah, terribly. Like you says. A hair salon him forced to use the Paul made well, no. So I use body lotion, I always have. And so for me, body lotion is my routine. I put my hair every day. It works. Great. You have another one. Now you brush your eyelashes and your either rush fully with a school. Yeah, it's like a little. I lash mascara wand, do what should I do? Yeah. It's worth a good in a stretches amount. It's nice. What's my eyebrow. I liked it. I love to touch his face. I touch his eyelashes all the time. Crazy. I think that they need to have a strip called the Jared because it's just the perfect Dow eyelash. Michael shows. Beautiful is stop beef. You guys like on one thing that has never been brought up an Ashley United, never talked about it. Jared. When we are on the bachelorette together, Jared was one person that I connected with probably the most of anybody else other than you know, maybe Sean booth right here in the United really bachelorette Adamowicz are on the bachelorette was short because you're week five. And then you kinda went. We went isolation only. Yeah, kidding. Yeah, go, but but Jared, you and I did. I just fell in love with you as a man. You're just a good dude. Like you're a solid human being. We knew it and then Ashley gets with you, you know, work or co host. And so there's always this like love for you and and love. I think that we had for each other. Oh, yeah, you, you know what? I, I love the most about you on the bachelorette is on these compliments. I looked around this isn't a disc to you. I felt like there was like two people in the room that were like, we don't belong here and that was you. And I totally, I vividly remember sitting on, you're sitting on the couch and. I was sitting next to you and I remember we're looking other, and it was the second night because we had to first nights, and then we were like, what the hell are redoing here, because I think it was like MacDill was jumping in the pool in that whole thing was going down and it was like, man, this is just out of the ordinary. But yeah, the fan I had to first nights. I know we filmed because it was just, yeah, yeah. But I also remember when we want to clarify. So on our night one or the bachelorette we it was we had to bachelorettes we had Britain Caitlyn, and because there is so many people trying to meet with them, usually the only film one night, and then you go into a cocktail party and six or seven guys go home. But because there is so many people in to bachelorettes they actually had two nights. So we filmed one night went back to the hotel. Then the next night put exactly what we had on and went and filmed the rest of the part in the rose ceremony and all that good stuff. Even though you guys saw it as one on TV his act to skip that part. Yeah, Nick just get Newseum. Inle did he was like Brett farve there. He's like, you know, I'm skipping training camp. Birthdates. All right. I'm ready to come and then, but what I remember most is actually at the mental all Ben, I sat next to you at the mental and then we left and I went back to Rhode Island, and you texted me and you're like, hey, man, I just want to let you know that I was super nervous going into mental felt really just weird and he was like, but sitting next to you really calmed me down because we started talking and then we just started making fun of ourselves and there like, okay, never mind. This is fine. It's all well and good. And that was one of my favorite things like favorite moments between the two of us. I never told you because it was such a small moment, but just it was really nice of you to text me saying, hey, you settled me down, do you did? And that was I was really because you sit in this freaking house and you get guys like in Nick and you get old and Blake and John booth, and all these on their forget when Sean booth walked in and you're like, yeah, you're like, this is Stu, Ryan, goslings walk into that. Cool. I, here we go. He's a good looking guy, but you guys are. Beautiful. I don't know. We knew at the time we're, we're out of our line. A swag late. You're better looking than Sean Sean does has the swag. He's got a certain vibe around him. Same thing with Nick, honestly, Nick, you have a certain swag in vibe around you. That's like, oh, I just, I hear you guys say that because you guys are beautiful. Oh, thanks. But it's true, but it's intimidating because I remember looking at Jared on the couch, there's this moment where Ryan MacDill the guy that left on, I one jumped up, pull put me in a headlock and gave me a Nogi and I've popped. Yeah, perfect example is like I don't belong here. Yeah, never do that to Sean. No. Put a headlock. Put a headlock Nick via would never be putting a headlock. Jared, I put head locks. I got a swirly by MacDill later that night you have one sister. I do only child. I have one older sister Constance. Constant's there. I don't know at Sobers already her say that it's true though. We connected on that level, and I also think it's what made this whole experience for me because we're both younger is yeah, twenty five twenty thousand twenty six twenty five twenty six. We're the youngest in the house. Yeah. I mean you came in with his superman shirt. Love man, love. Never forget that moment. When I realized that I was going to be doing this, I almost threw up in the limo because I was so nervous as I was like, I'm going to walk up to kaitlin and Brit and open up my shirt to this love man skit that I got going on. I'm going home. I'm going home. Great. Hey, and also I forgot to tell you this. You were the one that kissed the Varney stone in Ireland, right? Yeah, yeah. What you on it? Yeah. You did trust me a lot of people pee on that stone out the locos when we went up there by the way, just lay in a lot of people p on the stock. Here's so much. We not gonna kiss it. Urine is completely healthy. And I mean, listen, when you think about it like imagine like bite my nails and you're in Vegas and the things we touch. God only knows what you're fine. We're fine. Yeah, I think we're, I'm not a drill here. You know, we're still here. We're not dead, so well, we'll see what happens. Nick and Jerry, you're both fantastic. This is the best group we've been out here Ashleigh and I have been together out to I heart fest now, three years, some years better than others. We've had some great times. I think every year is great in its own way. This is by far. I mean this the best way to I listened here. This is the best group we never had here. Ashley, okay. I agree with him. I think example, maybe we travel a lot, but I go, Jared. No, really? 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RHOP: Barn to Be Wild
"The. O. Too. Much. Well hello and welcome to watch what crap a hands the podcast for all that crap. We just love to talk about not only Bravo but be on I'm Ronnie Kerem hello, everybody welcome and Mandal. Kerr. The handsome talented fully coughed Ben Maller Booker Ban High I am fully coopting then some too much too much Mondays. My Ri- Amirah et grew so much hair over the weekend. Welcome to Monday everybody. It's real housewives of Potomac stay over here. This week is going to be a little bit different. So listen to our schedule Dammit and I'M GONNA mess this up. So I think I. Bet. Ombudsman Okay Yeah. See says things like Ombudsman sow you can count on him. So today, Ross Potomac. Tomorrow is going to be below Dick mealy rainy and Wednesday is going to be the season all of selling sunset and Thursday will be What willoughby great. British the British Baykal Great British bake off and Friday will be secrets revealed for real housewives of new. York City. So we are adding great British big off into this mix this week. So go watch it comes out on Friday mornings over on net flicks and it's just what a delightful little trailer delightful show. I. Haven't watched it yet. I'm saving up for when we record but this week we're we're recapping on Thursday but it's going to move to Wednesdays it's GonNa take overselling sunset. So sorry, you have to wait so many days, but it's just the way that the schedule is just now life can you do? Yeah So. I also want to give us I want to I also want to self blog, which is that I'm doing an ID live with Danny, Murphy and that's going to be tomorrow at. five, pm Pacific a PM eastern and just just come to my instagram. You'll see where you'll see it'll say like now. Benzon I July of people doing all these edgy lives all the time. So I'm getting involved I mean we've done ones with each other Ronnie but now aren't dodgy live other people I. Hope You. Have you taken well, how fun without Fucker? So Danny Murphy, the English Soccer Player. Well that would be very exciting no, this is Danny, he actually he. He wrote He run article once I think was it for Harper's or something where he quoted us about banner pump rules back when people cared about vander pump rules oh yeah. That Danny. So funny he's so funny Sosa writer in humorous from Jacksonville Florida and he performed stand up comedy in the ninety S I see. The Internet and social editor of Marie-claire. Little Bastard is so funny. You should all follow. His instagram has instagram I think is was into Kashmir, it's something. It's funny. It's Kashmir. Danny? Well. Why in making me a verification fuck off linked in. Your useless. by the way talking about useless What happened this weekend? Okay. Jackson. Brittany had a baby. Oh. Was it herpes? It was sadness. Little Baby. Welcome to the world. So I just had to I had to announce that because if I if I didn't announce that people would say, aren't you GonNa talk about the fact they had a baby reveal gender reveal. Did, we talk about teddy getting fired Teddy Mellencamp has officially. been fired no, I think we like. To bleed into the day, let's just not talk about it but you know now some time has passed since she came out kind of crying on instagram. I actually liked her instagram goodbye. She was like, yeah, I was fired. House useless you I'm not gonna I'm, not. GonNa Sugar coat it. has like such victim like? This. INSTAGRAM bores you guys. But I'm fired. Up Teddy God, I never see is technically a victim in this did get fired but still shut up teddy I for a moment I was giving props for sugar coating something but then I remembered that she literally will never sugarcoat anything. Otherwise, you'll have to pay yourself hundred dollars. Yeah. It's been a bloodbath on Bravo. This this has been like it's been insane but at least we have at least we have Jackson Brenes baby to. US. That Lake our lives are rich and full of joy still. Yeah. somewhat posted a really funny memes that said Real it's like Tom Sandoval looking really mad and that says me realizing season fifteen vander trump rules is going to be about custody battles from my God. Oh Here's I'm GonNa say, here's the one good thing about the pandemic one. Good thing is I'm pretty sure it's going to prevent us from having some sort of like A. Spin off. You know like know because it's I'm just hoping that's the case I may. I may have cursed it now I'll God they better. Not have a panda spinoff babies get Outta here. No one watches for that. no-one no-one want watches it no one cares I'm over it. I'm done the only child I want on my TV is Melania today. Okay. So. Okay. So here we are guys. We housewives of Potomac big-league is monique. Did she leave the show after this I don't know reports are reports vary. Wow. Yeah. This is a big this the big episode. This is the one that we've been hearing about. It was a been. This is the big big fight. I, I was I've been intrigued for many many months early this weekend candice posted a tweet that was like what you're going to see it all and it's raw and it's raw and I was like, okay canvas but other actually was pretty raw raw. It was literally raw because we finally got our question answered. Wise that raw cauliflower on the ground and call it. There was got like ten close ups today that cauliflower comes out of nowhere and gets more screen time than the dough. Yeah Yeah. That that cauliflower I mean. Let me tell you something. You can't spell crew today without rude and That cauliflower really upstaged everyone and it was rude. was, okay. So previously, who cares really okay everybody's fighting we get close ups on the cauliflower and we've seen the fight with. Your meaning that we've seen the the lead upright. Yes. We've just like the evil. Yeah. We ended with the Harris Poll right and all the ended with like like, yes or but now we're really seeing it like really flushing our that like candice is. Whatever she was saying, which seemed dragged me I don't remember. But like Monica's like flipping the morning's. Drag me. She's like, do you want me to do you want me to do you want me to do you want me to because Monique's way of fighting is just repeating something until you go crazy and poke her own is out so she just said you want me. And then it's on, she's flicking her hair and then grabs her hair starts pulling her hair and then the producers come in and everybody's screaming and yelling and then He. Rakes her glass and swinging it at mony which but not before splashing some wine in her face to candidates are somewhat face. So it was like extra. You know when your faces wet during a fight, it just heightens the the intensity of it. Someone needs face all wet and she's grabbing and then there's that broken glass swinging around. Yes. So she's she's swing a broken glass of around which we don't really hear much of, but I guess it's because I mean it defense right? So. Monique won't let go and this is where I got Kinda surprised Monique Damn. Damn. I thought it was going to be somewhat innocent. I thought it was GONNA be on. Par. They they cursed each other and then it's over and we're going to be like Oh God. That was no big deal. But no, that's actually not what happened. Yeah. I thought it was going to be in line with Porsche versus Kenya at the reunion I thought it was gonna be like it was going to there was going to be some activity, but it was like ultimately nothing too crazy and I figured like going into the fight. My mindset was like obviously you know don't condone violence that's like the given don't condone violence then the next bullet. Point was going to be but that being said, you know candace lake she doesn't really know unto shut up and she was one brought his whole thing like, oh, well, you trying to pretend you're pretending to be asleep and I was like well, and then monique film for the Bates I was going to put the blame everywhere around. But then when it got that point where monique like would not let go of the hair and everyone surrounding and she just like would not release like snapping turtle or something I was like Ooh you give this one to Kansas. And a dog park like the scariest I used to be a dog walker. Okay. So I would go pick up all these dogs and a big van take them to a park. and. The occasional fight would break out and you know those pit bulls are scary little fuckers. Okay. I have a half people and I know you cannot get anything out of their draws like once they yup down they locked there's something in there that. So strong and the only way to get them off and I learned this from a really crazy old lady but it works pull their tail and then they're like what? Hey Matteo but that you know obviously money, you can't do that. So they were just trying to like unclench. And she wouldn't unclench. At that Moment Wendy is squealing squealing and they're campuses hair once they finally do get her apart. Kansas. Here I. Mean it's just like straight up the air. It's crazy. Tina Turner eighties it was just like. Got A lot of volume really quickly. and and everyone's just like but MONUC was like possessed in that moment you know and she's likes to bitch talking all that mess and everything and they just got to Robin and she's Doing classic. Face and then she's just like trying to put the table back because I don't know. Did you notice that the table was like a plank that was attached to a barrel and so like during the fight, the plank had rotated and so robins like just putting the plank back slake for some reason I was like that's so robin to readjust the plank. Like don't spill my why. and. I'm not even saying that in a bad way I think I would also be very much concerned about that plan because I just rotates one more age that's all going to fall over like that'd be that person would also adjust it. But for some reason, it's so funny to me that Robin is the one that adjusts plank. Yeah, and it's it's also not producers that if you're going to have people fighting, you need them on the same side of the table like what at the barn do you know what I mean like Stop Ruining Barn On, the same side. So this is screaming, get that hood rat pass Bitch Outta here over and over again, and then she. Is My wig on and so she's screaming rat, and then we get a close up of the person who's really hurting the cauliflower because let's take a moment. CAULIFLOWERS is lying there looking for friends, Broccoli and Cherry Tomato and it's like I'm like on the floor I can't get. We were in like a beautiful little plate together and yeah, that was not so money pulled into a hallway By one of the producers and she's like well, she wanted to happen. I mean you keep talking that's what you want to happen is they're wine and my face is that what's in my face and then we get a close up of the cauliflower they just love this cauliflower and she cut my face like does she cut my face with her wine glass so I guess she did get dipped. I don't. Yeah I mean it may have been the one I've known as so much happened there. I don't know where that blood came from because I know I definitely saw while she was fighting and then before she was even pulled away like Ashley Ashley during all this time has been in the bathroom. So she comes back and achieving the Chiron says Asher returns from the bathroom and she she's like she's like what happened the whole building is shaky and she sees every like when she left there were a bunch of. Civilized women dressed very nicely drinking wine and enjoying small d'oeuvres and when she came back candice's air, it's like a mess. There's like Kali Flower on the floor. That's broken Glasgow. She's like what about users running around and it's fitting that she's dressed like a pilgrim because I can imagine absolutely coming over on the mayflower in her little pilgrim outfit. She's like we're just GonNa have a nice dinner with our new neighbours you go to the bathroom and you come back and all hell's broken loose. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly So then So then carrying goes over to Kansas. Come over here but it was like I'm over here. I'm fine. Well, they got your wig. Wig. So then in the hallway. Drag me now you're bathing me. She wanted me to do it and I flicked her hair and honestly I just don't remember what happened after that. Okay. The are you the next gas over Star Against Congo? Literally happens. Seriously I just I can't remember anything else. Then back with the ladies asked she's like well, obviously, she was very upset and like it wasn't the right time to push its conversation. Yeah Karen. I'M NOT GONNA listen to throw her under the bus check on my friend my friend not you cauliflower you're not my friend anymore. robbins like well, she's got a problem. No, that's not through our under the bus. I'M GONNA go? Check out our so. She tries to go into the hallway and Monica's trying to open the door but the producers closing it he won't let her out and It's like almost slapstick at this moment. Yeah. Poor producer he's he's really going through it. Off. The producers on the show they're making you earn those paychecks right now. So I'm trying to get out cairns trying to get but a thou- let us outlet us, and let us in. And James. Opening the door and she's it's Karen Karen. Hugo. Dot Com now, open the dawn check on. Mony Open Dodd. How How Often. Add. So yeah, they're like so she's trying to get in and it's like. Well, I'm like stopped trying to push trying to bullet bullet close but I'm trying to open. In a way it was like my favorite moment of the episode of Modique and and Karen like what would happen if both of them put their hand on the DOORKNOB at the same time and tried to open the door and this is what it was. Yeah and in the background canvases just screaming her head off she's like you're ghetto, ass Bitch and you know. She's going crazy and James Still Won't let monique out and she's like well I'm going to beat her ask I'm going to do she's been asking for this I'm going to meet our and he's like please don't please to stay calm. Your whole life blackout defense doesn't really work as well. When when you announce announced, YOU'RE GONNA. Go back around to the. Strong. When you do it that way. Yeah. Monique has a really bad habit of confessing to things on camera and she gets really never would see us like her big Dr Driving Drunk offense. She's like. Well, I. Did have listen I only had like ten glasses of wine or whatever she said, but we live where she goes on camera and she's like, yes, I will I only had a few drinks and then I fell asleep while I was driving what's the big deal is so tired I've. Tried she has sleep issues. Her sleep patterns have gone to gun her into a lot of trouble. Haven't they and yeah she needs to not talk on camera when she said something bad just don't talk okay. So then so giselle basically like goes to candidates sounds like get you out the door. Here's a coupon for Arizona's see you there are. And candles is like why listen I'm sorry everybody as she leaves she's she's. Keep screaming that money kiss ghetto, and then they're trying to earn the car and she's like, why am I the one being dragged into a car and the? My favorite producers like, yes. Listen I mean to make sure you are way in a car. Please baby. Yeah, he's. It's about safety just getting the car please. Do that big. He's like pleading his pleadings and she's and Kansas doing that thing I think all of our drunk friends have done her like after the puked in the middle of the I'm fine I'm fine. What's the problem and I'm fine I'm totally lily just threw up on a waiter right now because you're not thought I'm fine I'm totally fine it's like. Go home. Aso He's pleading with her to stay and she well, but then meanwhile, Monique has left the service in the stair whatever the service stairs, whatever you call them, and she's going out the back entrance, and now she's like running around the building to kick her house and the producers still going it's about safety the car baby got dot com. and. Monique runs around the side and you just hear Ashley going is that Monique Running and then monique charges. This was like the climax of deep impact by the way. This is like what Leelee Sobieski had to leave her parents and hop on like that scooter with what's his face the hobbit and like a run this anomaly this is what it was. It was like get in the car and go go the way of US coming. And to cell cycle, I'm not going there. It's not my fight I may have started it. I may have tried to start this whole thing. But Hey, listen I've been thrown he bunches. So I loved Wendy. Running outside because she's like running outside like stop stop. She's like also wearing her coat on her shoulders she's like so she sort of like being like very sophisticated, but also trying to stop a fight I. Really liked that I appreciated it. Yeah. So mony, let me go and they're all holding her back. And let her go. But finally they let her go and she goes back inside and cares do. Job, leading. ooh Mama. Karen. Is here save you money whereas my purse as like. Well, you'd better not bring your around me I'm GonNa kill I'm going to kill her I'm like Monique this is when you stop talking. On the record. Yeah. Again, it's on camera dum dum and so robins like Oh look she's killing her and cures wiping her mouth or wiping money mouth and stuff, and then in canvases car she's she's Krahn calling Chris and she's like she's telling him what happened and then monique is telling Obscene Karen She said you're GonNa, drag me and I said okay, you want me Kale. Yeah Candice Italian Chris. She's like So Monique just tried to fight me like she was trying to fight me. I'm like you guys advice actually. Thought. There was broken glass. You try your swinging broken glass she cut her lip your wake was like upside down by Zomba's over. You're right. If I WANNA fight and look, we're going to say it probably a million times. In this episode, you can't just sit somebody like Da da like Mona's in the wrong period but Kansas of course is still a major asshole and she sit there twirling girls face and saying come and me. How she's telling Chris he's like I mean, I, just don't understand it. Could you how could you be so mean to me when I have been your real friend I've just hurt I just don't understand. This. Crazy out of left field. I don't get it. I'm like see candidates. This is why this is why you get punched and I'm not saying that unlikely you deserve it I'm saying and I'm not I'm not I'm not that's not super victims shaming. So I'm sorry I will retract that. But what I am I going to say is that like that she has she acts like. It was just this lovely beautiful time and then monique just flipped a switch and it's like, no you also contributed to a situation and It is ultimately on Monique. Monique never of punch money she walked away or gesture have been above your your rowdy behavior. But like don't start like telling a story like you were just there being the best friend ever like that's not true. It just sexism viewer because you know this viewer is rooting hormone e in general I mean I think Canada's a total jackass and then these past couple of episodes monique is really showing that she's just as at fault as this goes down. But then I'm still breeding monique just because she's the team that I've picked. So when all this goes down, it's like Oh. Wow. You just gave her what she you know. You just gave her all the amas she needs. You know you just totally handed her a win by getting. A total of the total candice win while it reminded me that for many years I actually was not t- mony I actually felt like monique was ridiculous and she was just like. A super tacky and she I i. if you go back the episodes, you see me just like probably railing on Monique and then I think it's hard to come around to her last season I. You know 'cause I when it came to that drunk driving thing like I like that was really bad like we we made fun of her a lot because you know it was like some that she had I think ashes said she had five and money no, I only had two. Or Salon That's still drunk driving I'm sorry and like that like drunk driving is a really really really serious thing and the fact that she was just tired. So like Monique, it's been an asshole all this time but like I think we just softened on her because last season she was pregnant and she was like very chill and then the season jazz an awesome parrot. So like we sort of forgot that and also she's against canvas sex scandals such she's a horrible human being. Need to do is read her twitter and read all the Shit. She says to people to know that she socks. Okay. Like that's not even in question to me. But yeah, you can't just you can't hit her now. Now you've given her a solid win against you monique solid vicious. Vicious like that the holding onto that hair I think there's something very visceral about that where you're like, ooh, okay this is okay. Okay. Money Oh. Oh, you're losing does now. Yeah. When you also inside Ashley's like while she talks a lot of Shit and wonders why people get angry and sells like ye I have to blame Modique for this robbins like Yep totally her fault and when he goes. To Sell, I didn't sign up for the ship. And just like yet none of us did. Okay. Yeah and then. Yeah Monique and Macara she's. She's I think she's talking to Chris or I don't have to talk to Chris but she just says at one point she goes well, you know you keep talking crap and you're gonNA, get hit I. Think she was on the barn letters McCarron Yeah Yeah You keep todd crap you're going to get hit like This is now now that's not right. That's not right. Yeah Right Kansas Kansas. On her phone call and she's like, yeah, you know what? I'll talk shit all day but I will not put my hands on people. There's enough. Sit about black women fighting and scrapping and I don't WanNa look like a ghetto ass hood rat. But I will do is I'll wave a knife in someone's face. Okay. Roy Halladay Sir. Well, the broken glass at that point I think. The broken glass was scary because that could have done some real injury, but I also feel like at that point. Her hair was being tugged a lot of action it and I think that like the I'm not sure. That was self defense, but it was swinging. Broken glasses somebody I actually wonder how much she like. This is not to let her off the hook I wonder how much she was aware of glass being broken like did she break glass for the blast break because of all the pandemonium and what she just like flailing whatever was in her hand she she has a flailer we've seen that with the knife in with. Glass whatever the hell again again it was you know she was it was like under attack at that point she really was it wasn't like this was a shot or some wasn't the chew under attack yeah. So Monique, just building the case against herself as yelling honestly can I can find a little trick that thinks she's grown that's what she wants and cares get in the car. Someone bring the horse and carriage around please. Yeah. So yes. Then ask you starts. So then Ashi tells the women that Monique said that candace right to throw glasner face like no, it wasn't that she tried to throw technically it wasn't that she tried to throw it in your face 'cause you have just thrown in your face it was more that she was swinging yet but again, it's not like Monique. Nick's actions. Were not. In reaction to the glass, the glass was in defense of Monique right the hair. So no one's buying it anyway. Yeah absolves like what went on her face because of the tussle. Yeah. So then, Mo Nikos Chris in the car, and she's like you know Chris I just got into a fight with candidates and the last thing I remember is flipping her hair and the next thing you know glasses are thrown and then I grabbed her we've and then I was bashing her head but that's all I remember. Okay. If you'RE GONNA go with the blackout defense, you can't just. You just confessed to multiple crimes. If you blacked out you blacked out just say you saw cauliflower on the floor. But you into such depression that you blacked out. You don't remember it. Don't go confessed bashing her head. I saw a small piece of cauliflower and then I almost saw bigger piece of cauliflower and then I blacked out I don't know what happened I think I felt I was so stressed. And Chris was like we'll embarrassing embarrassing for who is like? It's embarrassing period. which was his way of saying want to have your back because I'm your husband but you have just embarrassed entire family that was what he was saying right there. Yeah and she's not backing down. You know she's like well, don't care she x. people on you know and you she thinks that people are just going to sit there while she's getting in your face I mean you know what's going to happen is that it's going to come out and she's going realize much disrespect people. You know and. This just goes to show the power of Moore's because, wow, like the Poli- candidates that had once Moore's I'm sure all of this would have been avoided. Go, on sports wants it started at that why? So Karen's life. Well, it breaks my heart. It really does they're good people and this is bullshit situation stinks if only, we could spray some la Dom of fresh up the scent of this fight and we're pretty much out of the scene with one last close up on the cauliflower just. Don't forget what the cauliflower web through. Let's. Let's give some props of the Mason Jar to because there was a mason jar that was down and I think like every absurd Brooklyn was really hurt by that. No one wants to see a mason jar helpless on the floor when things are Saturday inside. Yeah. Those things are are sturdy. Aren't they? They are they are not broken. It was definitely not broken. It was basically like a trump one basang it got knocked down, but it'll get up again. It's time for commercial. It's time for crap comedy. So, let's see. the morning after he is getting ready to go on TV and she's talking to her little baby and she's like we are GonNa talk about what America needs. Yeah, and she's basically saying how the whole pissed off because like she spends her career. Trying, to advocate trying to speak up for why like everyone deserves a seat at the table and then a fight like that is what you know. Basically like racists ammunition to say, well, this is why we don't give people a seat at the table and I felt I, felt for her I felt for everyone else who who felt that felt that with that moment because it's a very real and unfortunate. Reality Reality Great I'm really killing it today. Really Clean. And then over with Giselle, he's with their kids are packing to go to Atlanta and. She's know talking about this and she's like you know now I'm looking at my girls I'm raising them to be strong black women and she goes robin on the on facetime and She's like They start talking about the barn and Robin like I looked in her eyes and I saw the devil. Also saw tabletop that was about to fall off. So there's a lot going on. And she's like well, this was annoying as hell and she has a mouth on her but to give physical take site at all, she's wrong. Yeah. That's true. Robinson ended up. Perfectly. So yeah. So by the way I, don't know if you mentioned Ed but Giselle and her daughters are packing to go down to Atlanta for the grand re opening of Arizona's. So that's something that entire culinary world can look forward to. Now, that's a cauliflower that's winning. Yeah. I, mean, it's really nice to see cauliflower killing it again in the same episode look look at me I'm grilled and delicious. So, now we go over to candice's House and Chris's made are some tea and her forehead still hurts. But this is shocking. She did not want to go the doctor and when Chris asked, you may be a concussion. She's like, no, I don't have a concussion I was like Ma'am you're on the real housewives until until further notice you got into a scuffle that means that you you can have a full on toomer at this point that the lesser meanwhile around like your leg is broken have you've never seen Shannon Madore in have you? Did you not watch last season and when she got? She got bombed on the head. Also, she's like you know the more I think about this friendship, the more I want nothing to do with her I mean it's like she intended to hurt me. Yeah Yeah That's usually what happens when someone grabs your hair does not like over five minutes and she's like I've apologized like a thousand times to this woman like what the Hell and you know the the big unspoken thing here that no one's bringing up is the reason monique is so mad is because she thinks that candidates is spreading around that she had an abortion. Now this is all according to blogs oh? Yes, right. We've talked about this. I know I forgot that there was an abortion element. She didn't miscarry that she had an abortion that's like one of the and by the way I'm not saying that this is a blog. Don't sue me Sue Ben Okay and wrote the blog. Is that and that she's cheating on her husband and all this other stuff. So they're not mentioning that on the show but that's why monique is mad. That's what supposedly Monica's mad that Serena spreading that she's blaming candice for the one bringing up the affair over the alleged affair over and over again is to sow. It's not candice. But Candice, has pointed monique at a disaster has pointed monique at Kansas and said, she's doing this you. Know who's really spread. Really spread the gossip is money because honestly I really would not have known any of this. If Monique not set every single episode that cherise has been talking shit and then she's cryptic about them you have to go the Internet to find out what the hell because through no one cares what should the saying you know but like I would not know any of this stuff if it were not for money and Monique is the one. Who is actually fanned the flames of this in her attempt to try to put the Kabosh on it, and the truth is this if she is having issues in her marriage, then she's just like projecting like everything that she's doing is like the behavior of someone who's very deeply unhappy in their marriage, right? She's lashing out she's basically just lashing out you know like getting a bird getting a bird tired all the time being like very. Like regimented about. Moore's that's all signs of like Josh, was dangerous I at home. You're mad about as you need to you need to look inside. When you knock off, knock a cauliflower onto the floor in a public space like. There's issues at home yeah. You need to rethink your steps. But also just I'll just Algiers Algeria. Algiers Algebra L. as usual just algesiras out yourselves right and candice here is like you know I've apologized multiple times and we see that she actually has apologized. So that is a fair point but then she's like it just makes zero sense. It's like. Well, don't also forget that they were all talking about about Ashley etc, and then you the one who brought up who could not help yourself by saying like Oh. Well, monique pretends to be asleep when I'm around her money sprinted. To Be Asleep. And all that. You did like start this and you did you did get the ball rolling on this situation. Yeah. I'm doing Kenya twirls. Yes. So don't say it makes zero sense. Yeah. So Karen is making a birthday dinner for Ray. I'm here rattling pots and pans first. Yes Ray. You're the one who rattles the pots and pans but today you got the day off it's your special day I shall rattle the pots and pans like link. And he's like you'd look good in the kitchen you like. Sexy even. Get used to it ray. Yeah. So she's she's had a chef. She had a him over. Cook. Some Chilean Sea Bass. Patagonian toothfish for Ray and Karen. Has. Karen says you know has her own issues to deal with now ray? That down Ray I love. The Karen acts like she's so confused about what's going on they need to get a marriage therapist because they just don't understand. He's told you you gotTA business, you're never home. That's it. Wants to. Go. To. Florida. Let's go to Florida Yeah. You keep asking what's wrong and he keeps telling you what's wrong. Okay. Now I'm not saying he's right. I think you should have the right to have your business and do all that screw that but. I don't know I. Think I actually found the real source of their issues because when Karen Karen goes and sits down next to ray on stools and she seated next to these like three candleholders. Did you see these candleholders? No. They were like metallic metal. It wasn't like metallic like, ooh, Shiny. It was like the medal of like is it like gold? No, it was like metal. It was like gray metal, grey metal, these Kendall I almost want you to look the look these up I tried to describe it but here's the thing. So they were candleholders candlesticks but they were shaped like columns like recall like marble I onic. Day morning, right. But here's the twists on top of the columns. They all had like tree trunks and candle goes in the tree trunk that's mccollum as all metal. You know. I love some tree art. nope. But this is like. I was like, how did these come into Karen's house? Why were these jobs? I think the judgment behind these candlesticks is really what is causing ray to grow distant like who is this wife of mine? who brings this terrible terrible candles into are Well, when you're a homegoods shopper, you don't choose what comes into your life issues his hugh. There's a season for it. The day she happened to be at home because that was what was on sale, Ghaith? Tree stumps tree stumps on columns love attract I, love some tree stump art. So she's like you know my husband doesn't like me being a businesswoman instead of his wife. So maybe we should get a life coach. Okay. I'll go along with this. Okay. Yeah. Sure. Life Coaches Classic Classic on Bravo Yeah he's like, I'm trying to understand the difference between a life coats and a therapist and Different and then she tells us she's like There's not really a difference. Well one was credited by going getting an advanced degree and the other one got a piece of paper the back of Max and wrote her name on it and said, I'm a life coach. So switching gears right. I've been invited back to participate in a homecoming, right? I'm thinking of inviting the girls right but unfortunately, last night, there was a physical all the games. Like. Does this have to do with US moving to Florida. Otherwise, I don't care. Yeah. He's like, who was the instigator this time? So both Ashley revealed that those pictures on instagram. Michael and his boxers where Michael and we all wanted to know if Michael tapped it of course, she said, no. Yeah and. So what was he doing? She just goes. Oh. See that her laugh was so funny. It's was like an evil in a movie like I just repeal. Obama. And Ray I mean, that's the perfect question. How is nobody asked that? Yeah. So then raise yeah that's true. It's a raise like so. Did. It also come out if that he also likes men and she. Why would you confessed trying to have sex little man and then he couldn't do it ray being mean not necessarily wrong but you'd be mean. Rate actually has all the legit questions by the way I. Would you know there's a lot of blocking out happening with guilty parties on this show recently? Yeah, and then we get a clip of canvas saying, well, he'd likes to bring up sausage and he says that he would like to suck a sausage. We can keep it in a gay panic vote here everybody good and sometimes. Glad. We're all still panicked about homosexuality guys. So. ding-dong and WHO's here to save. Day. Wash. It's the staff Oh. Yeah I was going to radio. Karen has a lot of guests today Okay Carol Okay. Her own talk show today? She's got a lot of guests coming on I is the cooking segment. You're right? Yeah. This chef, the chef has arrived and is teaching Karen how to Cook Basically, which which basically comes down to Karen putting a pizzas in the Pan Look I did it and then. Then they cook this meal, which actually looks very delicious I Kinda WanNa make sea bass tonight with like Asian inspired vegetables and then. I thought it was sort of funny because they make does this dinner and then like they serve the dinner and then Karen registered there eat dinner at the chef is standing there like so chess stay here might supposed to leave where do I go next? Yeah. This is the trouble with open concept kitchens. The shepherdess hides behind the island. Then So they're like there's like Laffy it's like you know Rai- raised like. So what are you going to do this again and and Karen's like Oh ray I don't know if you notice this the the generic music were playing in the background it did this like. Musical progression that I swear was beating the beast, it was like the typical Potomac music like bumper to bumper to bumper burnt burnt bar I was like hey. Make your comments. And are being. A Little Karen Square for you. So then we go to Atlanta, which is L. is with her kids and hotel, and she's like this is a big weekend brands we are relaunching. Arizona's. At lasts Lazett what we've all been waiting to. Relaunch. Yeah. So sees saying there because the kids aren't used to her being with Jamal yet. So she's like you know I figured this would be the easiest and then over Monique's house moaning, Monica's trying to talk to Chris but she's also doing Maloney's hair and she's just abusing me. Mix Having Harish is this episode because she is so caught up to talking to Chris that she's not paying attention to report daughter WHO's like gold. Associates, like I'm very much exhausted with these shenanigans. What are your feelings? Chris like I'm disappointed. You shouldn't be fighting a couple and I don't like that your physically hitting. It's not cool. It's not a good image. She's like I don't care about my image. Okay. This is reality. Okay. She talks crazy everybody and you know what? Her mom she popular longtime ago. She's off the chain with her okay money. This is this is I'm not sure this fear not for lazy MOMS branding I. Don't know yet some point you have to say you know what hitting her was wrong but I got you know just I shouldn't have hit her that was wrong of me but that was very angry I mean, even back. A day later you've slept on it like just say just say, yeah, not one single person has even hinted that you were in the right bear you know. so she's like well, I got back home and I told Chris everything that I could remember. And he didn't like that and football players have an image job. But that's not my concern. Yeah I, mean I think it's kind of bad if football players listen. You're getting physical. Literally I literally throw people to the ground for a living I think you've got to physical my job description is defense like my job description is in the words of violence and clashing and I thought you were to physical. Water. So yeah. Monica's basically like this is a long time coming and you know up my parents told me not to certify. But when you're being threatened, you step on the foot and you pull the hair and punch the FASSA. I know Jesus. That's that's really. All this time by the way Chris eating a little from starbucks which crack me up I. Don't know I always think it's so funny. But he halts hold small things like the Danish in his hands. It looked like he had like a like a little a little. Little. Crumble a little bit of a Saltine and some. Regular to a regular person, it would be like a seat pan but the hammock. Just A. Like a like a stamp, it looks like he's eating a postage stamp. Yeah. and then it gets to commercial and the weirdest commercial comes on Okay K.. It's a diaper commercial. and. It says, candace has poise poise under pressure and poison her pants. On the Beasley. Messages in this episode. Two things I would not expect to hear candace has poised and what was his pants or something poised under pressure and poisoned her pants. Who wrote that copy? Toys boys on the side. Poisoning got that girl has got poison her pants. Poison Berry. Let's get the restaurant. Arizona. Now Oh no. Now they're going to jazz at a restaurant with their kids to meet up with her dad it's like a yeah like A. Place Yeah so must be scheduling her own filming. She's going to as many pastry places is humanly possible this season and this is really cruel to be showing this like on Yom Kippur. So so although I haven't been a bad this year I'm not really doing well with my thing as I brought my fast like three times already, and so you just pull aurigny can confessed. Dissecting. Blacked out I had an Eminem I blacked out I. Don't know what happened afterwards when you get to heaven one day, they're going to play this at your trial. Well I did it for the podcast I was like I just I didn't get a lot of sleep last night, and then if I don't if I'm if I don't eat anything. And I'm and I don't have love sleep. I'm just GONNA be a monster on this podcast and I didn't want to do that. I, didn't know. I didn't want to do that to you Ronnie I didn't WanNa do it from Monique I didn't WanNa, do to cat and I did definitely did not want to do it to Karen. Hugo. She deserves better. Thank you so sweet. So. They're basically small talk 'cause like tell Grandpa what you're up to in high school. So it's a lot more work and then she's like okay now leave so I can talk to your around. Yeah. So She's like She's like well, I wanted I did want to tell you something dad there's a guy in my life and he's not your favorite their dad, and you know we've been able to maintain a great friendship and I feel a lot of growth and maturity coming from him. So we're going to try to get the family back together again. So that way, he can cheat on me and ruin everything. What do you think to add? Oh. My God this poor dad. This poor, fucking bad like I'm going to drag my dad on camera to get to get his approval on camera everyone will off my ass and this guy feels the fresh. He's like I want you to be happy I would never step in the way of your happiness. I. Think I think at this point his realized I'm too old to care about this and she is too old for my advice. So if she's going to go down this path, just going to go down this past. I'm just listened. She bought me donut. Really complained. Yeah So then we go over to the doll. And by Dean Wayne Wayne Away Way Way. Delicious bottle. Thanks MOM NIXON CONNEC- Corona Way and we. Will look at their Hayes Dean been a very good boy on sorry. Always had the St. Always at warping. Around the House, I'm tired waking up and being ninety, four six. Tell me about it. Last week I was in a hotel in just couldn't get to sleep. But amazing I can't remember remember anything that happened even the line I couldn't fall asleep. So ashes like, okay. I'M GONNA go put down okay. is like and then we can have out on all haven't really seen much ever since you got mad at me for cheating on you. Close Been. So long all I haven't been with you since let's see that Tom you actually eighty salad on camera because you were so angry. Why do hope you do put the baby down because it's not I'm jealous of the baby but I will say if you don't put him down for his nap seen all probably go back out to the Strip club just lion on not saying it's your fault. I'm just saying it's your fault. So. Little by. She goes in a dramatic turn of events. Now, talking about Michael's infidelity anymore now, it's about candice and moment fighting. Let's have a senior. We talk about him cheating so. Unions loneliest yeah y'all. got a reprieve. Hi Ashley, my wife. Do you WANNA share my via? Bear that shows that on a loyal husband showing mobile with you. I did pump recently. So I guess I can. Now I know that we haven't had much time to do this with the baby and all, but we've both done things in our relationship that have contributed to this point. But when did you start feeling something was off Or think it sort happening when you got pregnant and I realized I didn't want to be with you anymore. So I went to the Strip club something like that kind of his wording is so weird he goes are feel more comfortable in our relationship knowing it's more stable but I also look forward to that intimacy that wasn't connected to our relationship. What the fuck kind of way like just say I miss the intimacy is one thing but saying I miss intimacy that wasn't connected to our what does that mean like I miss I agree to stop cheating on each other and I miss that. It means that all I have a paper to review and I've got a call at one thirty. Let's wrap this up especially Iran. And she's like. The sex part was not connected and he's like listen or relationship is love and looking after each other on the bed and the baby. So it sounds like he's saying he likes their relationship he loves where their relationship is, but he still wants to go have sex with people. Right? I couldn't. Honestly I couldn't tell he was being very slippery. He said like he was. At first it sounded like he was just saying well, basically, we weren't having sex. So I got horny and then it sound like he was saying, well, I'd like to having sex with strangers that that's what we used to do and then as like, oh but I know but I shouldn't have had so I I couldn't I really couldn't tell he was being very vague. This fucking guy guys like this. You know they're caught red handed and what do they do will maybe it wasn't. It right do to. Listen. My question is this. You said you were you were just doing some Pumpkin who's pumping, and when can I meet her? and. She's like well, how do I know? You're not GonNa do it again he's like well, because you told me I can't. It's like. How do I know? You'll be able to resist and he's like well, all have to won't I. He's talking as if he just like broke his diet like well, maybe not I should not have ordered that Frappuccino I was tempted but you know what? Nick Saum it won't happen. Anyway let's check out my rewards. It's like. He's being so like. Cavalier about this. It's like you like. Major. Wife look like an idiot on TV you betrayed her trusts like again again again. So she's like well, there's always gonna be a temptation I mean, will you be able to resist? Is the goal to she's like well, I was thinking about. Okay. So now here comes Ashley the boss. Okay. WE'RE GONNA POST NUP and that basically means that amended we'll get money in case you do this again. I. Mean He's like and yeah well, we can look at that. It was like well, you got him. Well but not didn't say, yes, he said, well, we can definitely look into that. I'm open to almond milk, but I prefer heavy cream but okay, we can look into that. Yeah, that's true I. Guess it wasn't a solid. Yes he's like, Oh, I just WanNa make sure that you'll happy 'cause I want to look after you and your happiness I know is based on how happy I am and I'll be happy if I could sleep with some other people outside the marriage what you think Oh my God this guy says she tells us that they had a pre-nup expired after five years and then we see her didn't renew that pre-nup. It was a whole thing it was like the whole arc like was she going no I think she didn't as a sign of trust a whole. where she signed, it was either that she signed a pre-nup as a sign of trust or she didn't sign anything as a sign of trust it was just a stupid moment. I thought it was she wasn't going to sign it because the five years was coming up. So she wasn't going to sign it but then she said in this clip, she says that. She will sign it because it's a it's a show of trust or whatever. So now she's saying in the event of a divorce or receive fifty percent so they're sucker. Yeah I, I guarantee it's not gonNA. Happen Fifty percent. Well I. He did not commit to that post nup and I guarantee he is going to twisted into. You know if you want me to change my ways I need to have a sign of faith that you believe in me. So dispersed not puts a lot of pressure on my and I feel like it means that this trust and honesty like the only way that I can devote myself to you is not there's no documents in the way all way. All. Right. So then Giselle takes her kids to the restaurant and they went to the manager. Why did these? What are these kids? Do you deserve this fate? That like like, Hey, we have a special surprise, your all owners of this terrible restaurant outside of Atlanta Oh and guess what now you have to work in it. It's like what is this awful like give the gift that keeps on giving in the worst way? Yeah. They're like, well, WE'RE GONNA? We're GONNA. Make you work for one day. Okay. Because you don't live here. You're not. GonNa have jobs here. was that what it was I was for some reason I had it in my head. They were moving like kids being dropped off in Atlanta for the summer they're gonNA have to work at the restaurant for the summer. I was building that narrative in my head. I don't know if it was accurate or not, but I was like it was trying to become very compelling my head. Oh Well that makes more sense. Basically getting trained. So they know how to work every part of the restaurant and One of those, like do you make your own nominate into my recyc- every single morning, which is a real real lemons. I ain't nothing after this question. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Arizona's. This is a place that they're ginger ale is seven up with a splash coke. That's what this place is. So let's see. I. Would say no, there are no real lemons at at Arizona's. Just to just a guess they're. Also. Had their first experience in a walk in freezer which was funny to it's so. Why were you in here your? Mother. It's the dead things separated. By. Kind of dead thing. Oh. Such as L. is in her her interview and the producers like so how many kids does Jamal Half and she says I decided I'm not gonNA speak on kids. I did not give birth to why it's not fair to them or their mothers the end. That was mother's plural. Yes so How many I don't know I don't know the answer to that question. How are there? I wonder if we'll find out soon enough. So then we go back over to Karen WHO's moving chairs around her. For living room for no good reason and The therapy session is about to begin basically and so Karen. Tells us. Well, you know Angeles coming over, she does what she calls. She calls it pillow talk and she finds fun ways to reconnect lie. For instance, have you ever plugged in a pillow pilot that's called reconnecting with a pillow talk? Anyway we need a little help because this disconnect not cool and Angela has a radio so-called. Love. Did you say, Oh yeah. Give Up. Sorry. I just keep thinking of two into would love connection. So, of course, Karen to get help has to get the goddamn platform. Like Z. Cancer Scholar Dr, it's gotTa be summoned with a radio show. So Angela comes in with her sukey smooth voice. Yeah. It's really distracting watching Angela talk because one of those things where her voices so. Radio friendly like so radio we that it feels like when she's talking, she's being dubbed over. Did you get that sense? Yes. Give away so some and now we're GONNA cut to this ad yeah. My goal is to get couples talking and really listening to how to really love. Okay. Let's talk about your love language. Well, I love language rusty ride now. Acharya from nineteen eighty five just a little rusty. My love language is phones with cords on them and raise love languages toaster ovens with Gordon. So are you still intimate? Yes. I am intimately acquainted with my listeners player at works quite well about the worst part fit that damn thing over the movie and raise like. Well, there was a time when the wind blew him I'm ready and now we don't need a hurricane, but she starts cracking up. So. Then the next question is what what's one tree that annoys you the most about Ray. Oh, he snows horribly and then. Like and what's great about Karen that that annoys well, she's always busy and doesn't have time for me and neglects me start a new company and never had time for me and our marriages and shit right now it's like okay. So snoring versus. Everything else. Yeah. So something. Changed About Yourself. Do you think you have total control over? Got It? Got It. So, he's Catholic yes, I started a company. Started out. As a strain I. A strand actually strain of something the andromeda strain back and I thought it I've started my own strain Carreno my virus. It's You'll get fabulous. Yes here's the first symptom of Carreno Right. Virus. You just become baugh. Security. Once you catch the Karen Oh my virus, you just dancing beyond saying, you can't help it. You'll know you have. Virus if you start going. Surveys like, I mean like after a while, you just start to say, okay, you know like what about me over here and? She's like well, what what would you like ray? If you could have anything what would you want right now? He's like attention. Okay. fucking. Attention also used to cook more. Oh Way I find that insulting. Okay. I find it very insulting like well, you know you think about it. You know you would cook 'cause you're looking for the kids and the kids leave and then there's like no reason cook anymore just like. Stupid old ray over here in quarter just packing his bags Florida waiting for someone to feed him that that's what I am. Men You know men seriously we really are much easier than we pretend to raise mad he doesn't get dinner. Someone has to introduce rate post mates. Okay. Like it's just there's an easy software how he cooks. Himself? Is Not. That good of a chef if she had their only contribution to sea bass night was putting the thing in the pan. So cares like honestly sweetie and update me. You stop planting that love bog. The reason. Keep the fuzzy feeling. I'm a very passionate woman I need to know that Jordan, live with me ray I need know you're on live ray. Swell well, I mean Karen, are you in love. Yes. I Love I love with Ray just look him. He just lurching over there on that can seat looks like he's about to pass out with boredom and hunger look at him I love that man. You know you're in love because I can't imagine a day without him. I can't imagine a day with outright. He's the last thing I think before I go to sleep the first thing I. Think I wake up in the morning the thing I think lunch in the middle of the day ray sometimes I I used to stroll around Radio Shack and see lots of bits and pieces of I'd be like that's why there's another. That's another way sometimes I see a dehumidifier and I'm like, Oh, it's ray again and. So she's like, okay, Ray now it's your turn I'm GonNa. Ask You the same question. Are you in love with Karen and he's like I think I am but I did just get a piece of fish. Might be totally. No I mean how many pieces of sea bass put into a pan for someone else to cook before you realize you're in love with me. Well, I knew at one point I. Love You and I think I'm in love with you but it doesn't feel the way did twenty years ago. It's not bad. It's just different well. That is a huge discovery from a very painful one but. Everyone knows I'm in love with you but you ray. Bye. I wasn't aware that we still in the discovery phase of our relationship, but apparently we are. Ya and so radio ladies like well, my listeners want their spouse to tell them the truth even if it hurts well. Good for your listeners God for your. Dead inside liver. Ray. We have a long distance dedication coming in for Karen from Ray and it says, let's move to Florida baby hit it. He's Charming? No. Okay. So she leaves and then Cairns like Y- them expect to hear that dude he's like. Well, what I said was I believed I was in love with the sick. Oh, you know it's like well, I just set your little different the person that I married while no stays the Sabe Ray. Nothing lasts forever in the Delta Bahrain Ray. Okay. Well, you know what I really appreciate your honesty, but I don't have to like it. That's what people say about my fragrance to also don't appreciate. So she goes upstairs starts crying just take my my golf I need to breathe, which is really sad but it's also I don't know I can't help but think like here's this guy you become a real housewife in become famous and then you're never home you're always out then you have a business you're always at, you're always out and then to even have the therapy it's all on camera you know Jato I. Kong. Also you know that like you sense that things are awry in your marriage and you know that therapy is gonna dig up some things you probably don't WanNa hear it can be very scary and then you're shocked that it's going to happen I understand why she was upset but also like I mean how many times has yet to go clattering about in the kitchen before you realize that there's like an issue like you know it's like isn't it like when you know when when your pet is like when your dogs rubbing its but on the on the carpet it like it needs attention or is that have worms? It's either way if ray is clattering in the kitchen. Something is awry and guess what he does right after right up. She goes upstairs he goes into the kitchen. To clatter around the loosen pots and pans around pots and pans. Giselle is at the restaurant and there's of people there because it's the Osa ribbon. Cutting. A lot of people who are I don't know what they were promised. But. There are a lot of people at Arizona's yet they really were so now the girls are going to be trained. They get paired up with a manager waitress and hostess and they get trained and it's really cute and they'll talk about how we're dad's supporting because had before right before that. There's other ribbon carpet ribbon cutting thing and she's I. Well, My Dad is supporting me my dad is here to support me. He just see Curtis he's like. Just just eat the steak, keep your mouth quiet. There's need to comment. Just get. You'll get through this curtis you'll get through this. They all sit down together and just as like, wow, that's very different from yesterday daddy we were here yesterday and there couldn't be ten people here. Wow look at this. It's like, wow, sounds like a really sound business choice. I don't think a great restaurant. I'm glad you fix it on one day. Doing nothing sounds like everything's fixed. So. Giselle. Say so the kids again they eat their dessert and then they're like they go off to, you know what's bad when they actually go off to work in the kitchen instead of hanging out with their parents so Giselle saying like well Jamal my dad just wants us to be happy and he's like. Well, thank you. Mr Graves at means a lot and curtis like. I want you to be happy bottom line. That's one. I'm staring off into space right now. The reality that my prize daughter is gone back to your cheating cheating ways. I'll just stare at the. Stake the. He's like Mafia excuse me I'm GONNA poop. So he leaves and just sells like, wow, I thought you were going to ask for hand in marriage and smalls like, yeah. We might have some rivers to cross before we get to that. We get from juicy bad backstage footage Yeah. This is fun I was like, why are we ending and Arizona's of all places this crazy episode and here's why poor dad he didn't realize he doesn't know the ways of reality. TV He's like taking his microphone off and you just hear his voice going he's like this is not a good move her you know I mean this guy's got six seven baby mamas to deal with that again I mean as a pilot got think about it I mean I'm done I'm done he is like get my microphone off. Good for him. I loved that Jamal us he is such a creep. He is. He is a phony. He's a creep. I don't know what I mean. I. Think that does really lonely and. She is like once been twice shy or something I don't know why going back Jamal Terrible. Yamal. Sucks. Giselle. What are you do? Yeah stupid. Beth. Oh my gosh. 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Girls Night #52: How To Declutter Your Home (and De-stress Your Life)!
"Hey, friends welcomed the girls night. I'm Stephanie may Wilson. And I am so happy that you're here each week. I have a girlfriend over and we talk through one of the biggest questions we have about our lives as women. We're talking about friendships and faith and relationships and self confidence about our calling in life, and how to live every bit of our lives to the absolute full life is so much better and easier an absolutely more fun when we navigated together as girlfriends, and I cannot wait to get started. So I guess for today's episode is my new friend. Allie Kasahda Ali is amazing wife. Mom, podcasters and business owner helping women rid their lives of physical calendar and mental clutter to make space for the things that are most important in life. And that's what this episode is all about today is going to walk us through a process that will help us declawed our homes in de-stress our lives. Don't you love that? I feel like we all need this desperately right now. I learned so much from alley in this conversation. And just one of the things she taught me was that when we cut our homes, it reduces our housework by forty percent. Forty percent. Isn't that insane? The second. We finished our conversation, I dove immediately into a closet to start the decluttering process. And I have a feeling you're going to do the exact same thing. So keep me updated. Okay. If you find yourself buried in a closet while you're listening to this episode. I wanna see it semi photos. But before we dive in ivory source. I wanted to share with you. It's called the lifts gospel devotional, if you haven't had a chance to check it out yet here is what it's all about. It's a ninety day devotional to help you consistently connect with God hearing from him trusting his plans and feeling his presence in your everyday life. In this devotional. We talk about how to consistently spend time with God. And how to feel connected to him. Well beyond your morning, quiet times. How to make the difference in the world that only you can make how to feel beautiful and comfortable and confident in your own skin. How to trust the plans got hospital life and how to figure out what those plans are. And that is just the beginning. If you're looking to. In your faith, these days, I would love to share this with you. You can pick up a copy by going to my shop. It's may Wilson shop dot com. You can also find that link through my Instagram profile at as may Wilson over on Instagram. Okay. With that said, let's jump into today's episode. Here is my conversation with Alli. Okay. Guys. I'm sitting here with my brand new friend Allie cassava in. I'm so excited for you to meet her this topic for today. It gets all of like my nerdy. Type a nece just going. I'm so excited for to hear from you into a totally pick your brain. So for anyone who's not familiar with you Allie. Would you go ahead and just introduce yourself? Tell us who you are what you do. And then I'm gonna ask you for fun. Fact just to kick things off. Yeah. I love it. So I'm Ali. I'm married been married to my husband for we're going on twelve years this year, actually, and I've got four kids nine and under. And what I do is for women. I love supporting other women and just pouring into them speaking life over them and specifically mothers. But really all women just kind of letting them know that when life gets crazy life gets overwhelming. You know, there's things that we can try to step back and remove ourselves. From that overwhelming. Burdensome feeling like it's all too much and step back. And I kinda come in and help them get like an aerial view over their lives and just see like, okay. Like what's causing this? It's like a three step process physical clutter calendar clutter all of that kind of leads into mental emotional like heart and spirit clutter, and you just feel really overwhelmed, and then you lose the ability to think clearly so I kind of come in and just help them clear all of that different sort of clutter starting with physical clutter. So they can just live a life with a lightened load and have the time and space. They need to focus on what matters to them and get more. Joy my gosh. If everyone listening is saying, Amen and pulling out a piece of paper and a pen and like Allie walk us through this. I know that usually when we're speaking or teaching or writing about something it's because we've had to learn this lesson the hard way in our own life. I live here. Like, how did you get into this? How did this topic become important? I'm guessing it might have really guessing it might have happened the hard way in my right? Yeah. I think that all all things that have a purpose and all things that lead to like our life stories, and like what we the impact we leave on the world come out of darkness, and it's hard when you're in that dark place to see like this is going to lead to something. And we all are always trying to avoid the hard stuff and the hard parts of life, but we all have ups and downs. And there's many many different things that I will go through and have gone through. But what I do may business came from one particularly hard in very dark time. I'm someone that just kind of struggles with depression anxiety. It's just kind of kind of in my family line. And that doesn't mean that it has to be my story or has to always be a struggle. But it's kind of just come and gone over the course of my life, and like as I was young person in a teenager and before. Had kids and just kind of got really really bad when I had three kids under three. My kids are very very close in age. And I was very very overwhelmed and those such an understatement there, honestly isn't a word that I found to describe where I was at that point in my life. I basically was I had I had wanted to be a mother had wanted to have a family. I was excited. But I felt like I would never really got to enjoy the parts that are exciting in like playing with your kids and going and doing fun things and being at home with them and just enjoying the day. I felt like I would open my eyes in the morning with my alarm clock blaring at me and just feel like seriously, it's already morning, and I already know that I don't have what I need to have in me to do this day. And definitely not to do it. Well, and that is a really awful place to be and to begin each day. And I kinda just fell into this very very long. Irt season of just total, dryness and total. Like, just I was stale and depressed and struggling, and I was like finding you magazine articles. Mommy, blogs like looking online asking friends and family like women that were older than me in different seasons than I was. You know, what I was going through and like is this normal? I'm really struggling. It's not just like, oh like I remember the last time. I showered those kids like it was like, okay. And I don't know what I'm missing, I'm okay? Looks like from Elvis magazines and stuff like I need to get organized. So I would try that and it would fall apart and like a few minutes at the most if you days because I was just like reorganizing crap and expecting to stay in place. And I was just like always cleaning always making sacks or changing a diaper, and I was never like able to just enjoy any of it and motherhood is servitude. You I- Bogor's and butts and other things like this is the place is like it's servitude. But I wanted to be in that an enjoy and have those days that was like hard because of that not hard because I can't breathe, and I'm depressed, I can't get on top of my. My life. Like, there's my to do list is not shrinking no matter what I do. So I kind of reached this breaking point where I ended up like like getting the kids busy and just running up into my bathroom. So I wouldn't have a meltdown in front of them like shutting the door and just falling on the floor and crying out to God. Like, I I had been hearing. This message almost like popping up in my life over and over again, like this is kind of how God works in my life. He pops really annoyingly obvious signs in my face like over-under talk to like, hey, have you thought about this? You're like, yes. Ok okay. Like shot up right now gonna lose it on. Okay. Had kept that kept happening with John ten ten the verse about abundant life, and it was annoying about it is that first of all it's my fault because I hadn't been spending time with the Lord I hadn't been running to him with this. I just kind of been like God help me out of this and just leaving it. They're not really seeking him. And so, of course, he had to get my attention this way. But it was annoying to keep hearing verse about abundant life when I'm like, honestly, like, I don't even know when the last time was that I enjoyed a moment for real. Or if I do enjoy like I spent an evening with my family or we have a great weekend. I feel like I have to pay this really hefty price of catch up the next day. And it's not worth like, it's just my life. My maintenance of my life in my stuff in my home. And our world is is taking over in all those Muendane parts that are supposed to be site notes are totally over running all the fun stuff and good stuff. I'm so in this bathroom Piff any moment. I just was crying out to God. And honestly, I'm not ever afraid to get real with the Lord feel like he'd already knows what's in my heart. And I've been known to like curse and punch a wall and yell and free out. And just like, I don't know what to do here. And I had one of those really really deep dark moments in that bathroom and just was like, basically, how can you be showing me abundant life? When like, what am I missing like, our mothers exception to that is this really motherhood because as asking these older women for help and like advice, I'm getting the same answer again. And again, basically, oh, that's mom life like. Yup. You're just in the thick of it, sweetie. Don't worry you'll get through it. And John ten ten speaks the opposite of getting through anything. It's thriving and abundance, and I wasn't experiencing that and I was trying to fix it. And honestly, I was waiting for God to just drop like do like. Mic drop moment and just be like some philosophical amazing piece of wisdom. And instead, I heard him just kind of nudge, my thoughts to but exactly are you spending your days doing, and I remember answering out loud. Like, I'm cleaning up like all the time. I'm just maintaining instead of enjoying. I wanna get to the other side. And it was like again that nudge cleaning up. What exactly am I thought about it for a couple minutes? Remember just sitting there like this is so dumb like who cares? I need help. And just kind of like reluctantly answering him and just thinking like, I don't know. It's just stuff like there's just so much stuff all the time. And it takes up all my own my days and right van when I said that out loud, I had this like lightning bolt moment. I've never had it since it was pretty cool. I'd like to have it. But it was like Jit and a pip any, and I just like stopped crying. I stood up. I wiped my face off. I knew exactly what I needed to do. And it was. Kinda like I don't know for sure if this is God. Or if it's my thoughts or if what is happening. But I think I have any idea, and I'm so deigned desperate that. I'm gonna give it a shot. And I basically started to cluttering that day I over the course of a week or two made some pretty serious damage. I got rid of a lot of stuff. And I didn't know what to do. There was no Marie condo. There was no minimalism documentary or books about this at even know that minimalism was what it was called. All I knew was that. I was done wanting to sleep through my life and counting down the minutes 'til bedtime. And I wanted to start enjoying my life. And I was sick of this stuff taking up my time. And so I just kinda went through with this idea of what is worthy, and whatever was not went in a garbage bag and got donated. So that that day that week changed my entire life. And now on the other side of that I've gone all the way. Through my house, multiple times, everything in our home is cozy and joyful and has a purpose. Our house takes twenty thirty minutes of just really routine maintenance day, it's a side note as it should be. And we're able to home school our kids. I'm running a successful business from home creating jobs doing what I love. And my the maintenance of my life is on the back burner instead of the front burner taking over everything that is amazing. That is amazing alley cubes so much for sharing that with that. Like everyone. Is there listening is picturing what that looks like for them. And it's different for all of us because we all have different things on our plates. But it's like, I mean, it's school. It's work. It's being newly married. It's taking care of parents or kids or kids we nanny for its. I mean, we all have just so much going on in our lives, and we've all been in places where like I can't do this anymore. Like, I am spent. We've all had those mornings, we're we're like you've got to be kidding me to get up and do this again. I do not have it in me. Right. So this idea of decluttering, I'm trying to think of when it first occurred to me, I think I did read very condos book a couple years ago and went through like our entire house. And I think as you're talking about and depression, I'm glad you mentioned that because the women listening know that that's been a real part of it's been a real struggle for me in this last season. It's really thick in my family history too. And I was so positive that it skipped. Me and didn't which is. Okay. So it's been something I've been really navigating. And it's amazing because one of the things that's brought me a lot of peace in the midst of it along with their be and medicine, and Jesus and all kinds of people around me, but is actually decluttering actually trying to make my space. My physical space simpler, and it hasn't fixed that alone didn't fix the problem, of course. But it helped so much, and it's just been amazing to me this connection between what our physical spaces look like in having less in it, and what our internal spaces feel like. And so I just like I feel drunk on this idea. I talk about it all the time. I think about it all the time. I wanna go through all my closets again. So I love the work that you do one of the things that I was poking around your website. It's awesome. Everyone needs to go. Check it out. And all of these resources will be in our show notes. This statistic on their the blew my mind. First of all, you said that might mess, but the physical clutter really does contribute to exiled especially in women. Yeah. And then the other thing that you mentioned that just totally blew my mind. And I was love to hear you explain this and sort of talk us through what this looks like is that eliminating clutter would reduce our housework by forty percent. Yes. Like talk to me about that. How does that work? That is so mind blowing. And that's why always put that everywhere. I want these women to understand like, it doesn't matter if you have kids or you don't or you're married or you're single if you're in high school college, if you're eighty it doesn't matter what season of life, you're in vatelot burden off of anybody like forty percents. I have to say this is what I do day in and day out. I speak with women who are going through this who have made it to the other side who are in the thick of it. And I myself have gone through this process. And I've got to say that's being very safe to say forty percent. I would very very much encourage anyone listening like I would go more towards sixty seventy in my experience. And when I'm working with the moms that like they go all the way in and they are just they become ruthless editors and protectors of what is allowed in their home. Because what takes up your space takes up your time? You don't only buy things with your dollars. You. By them with your minute and your moments with your family with your boyfriend husband, your parents, whoever is important to you. And so realizing that will make you like be done and just go all the way. And like, I, you know, I'm a big advocate of not being super rules based in minimalism. I think a lot of teachers out there. Meanwhile, and they're doing great work and some people really respond to roles, but I do think that there's a legalism there. That's unhealthy. And you can you're basically starting out. Like, I always explain it like this. You wanna focus on that forty percent, which is probably more like sixty seventy and use it as drive to move forward and make ruthless decisions. But when you start out, and you learn about this, you're usually most people are handcuffed to their stuff. It owns them takes up their time. It owns them rather than them owning it, and then they figure this out. They find minimalism simplification, and they go with it. And some people particularly. Type as I've found tight be. So I don't really relate to that. But especially type a people who are listening for you. Stephanie. They tend to get. So like obsessed obsessed like perfectionist about the process that they begin to like wait, am I doing this? Right. Am I doing this wrong? How many of this should I have how many of this is she have. Well, what does everyone else doing? Well, what is this teacher have like? And these are the women that obsessively message me on Instagram in Email, my assistant trying to get to me like if Alica just share how many genes she has. And it's like girl, let it go. Like, this is for you and your lifestyle your life. I you can bet your, but I have way more clothes than you need because my job is video and touring and doing TV things like it doesn't matter. This works for me. What does you know Mary need? What does Stephanie need? What does Ashley need? What works for your life? Focus on not drive to cut down that housework by so much and ask yourself. What do I use? What serves me? Who am I? Okay. If you're a chef who works from home, and you basically you have a baby and you're literally always in yoga pants. Don't get rid of all but to yoga pants like keep your yoga pants. Maybe you should get rid of some of your ino- trousers from your old corporate job. What are you using? Who are you? And don't you dare worry about that whole like, well, what if I go back to my corporate about if I need this later like better than we don't keep things out of what if and fear so walking forward with those core principles is so much better than the other styles of teachers who are like you need to have less than thirty bucks. You need to line your carrots up in the crisper. So that you're inspired when you open your fridge like maybe you might have time for that. But like, I don't so I'm not about those lake those rules like it's just limiting and your chaining yourself to your stuff. Again, you were chained before. Now, you're still obsessively pursuing the rule is that your chain? Again. This is about freedom. Oh my gosh. Girl. Preach. Real so good. So like when it comes to editing our stuff like talk through when it comes to our laundry like talk through what it looks like to if we have less. How does that like eliminate some of our housework just like break? I mean, it makes sense. But I feel like I wanted like crystal clear the connection between I got rid of clothes. I don't like, and I got rid of my old corporate clothes. Therefore, this is like what my time looks like does that make sense? Yes. Like, you're loaded. How is your load? Exactly lightened. So. Okay. So the first step is mental. There's no if ands or buts about it. It's if you something taking up space, and you see it every now, and then like even subconsciously like I would encourage anyone listening to do a deep dive like study, even just on Google on your subconscious mind, versus your conscious mind, our subconscious mind is constantly taking things in and it works out while we sleep. So if you had unexplained in psalm. If you've had anxiety. If you have struggled with depression, a lot of that is coming from your subconscious mind, and there's so many studies that show if you for example, let's stick with the corporate close example, let's say that we've got Mary, and she is had a corporate job and she became pregnant and isn't a single mom. She works from home, and she's holding onto this corporate close in a clear been at the top of her closet on a shelf. Just in case. She doesn't really know what life looks like right now. He's having Stella business at home. She worked for yoga pants. She's got her baby. Boy, this is her life. Every time Mary walks into her closet to grab a pair of shoes or something for her son or get a coat to go out. She catches that box in the Ben in her perfume vision and without even consciously paying attention to it. It's there she realizes that. It's there. She knows that. It's there she's walking into space that it's in and her subconscious processing, emotions, this is a big deal. We hold onto. Things that we wish we fit in we hold onto things that are from somebody who's passed away. And when you know, of course, there's a period of time, that's fine. But when it's been years, and we're just holding on we're sitting subconsciously in grief in loss in resentment in failure like in Mary's example, that might be perceived at into her own self as thing she failed at that. She lost that she's upset about that. She wishes hadn't happened rather than how amazing out of these choices. I made I got this beautiful baby. Boy, I can work from home. And I'm doing it. I'm paying his house on killing it let go of that old life. So when you hold onto things for negative reasons, we or whatever that fear we are messing with our subconscious were stealing joy from ourselves. And I mean, honestly, just look it up if you're doubting if you're like, no, I don't think that's true look at it's completely mind blowing. So that's the first it's a mental thing. And it's important to take. Care of our subconscious and to take care of ourselves and to make sure like when you walk into a room and your home, especially specially the bedroom, which is so often like the storage place for junk because no one goes in there. But you usually unless you have like super root house gas or something. Like, nobody goes in there. But you like you're causing even my closet. Full disclosure kind of a mess right now. Because I started cluttering, and then broke one on my golden rules and walked away from it. So it was just like a little craft show in there right now. But anyway, like you walk in and you wanna feel like you wanna feel good? You wanna feel safe? You wanna feel at peace? And so just taking a little example from my life for anyone who relates to this. I school my kids at home with my husband and my husband, and I run the company together from home. So we're home all of time were introverts were homebodies or here all the time. If my space was holding like a holding cell for past failures for things like, for example, one big thing for me is I dropped out of my parents into a private college dropped out. And I got married and was like, I hate it here. I don't wanna be here. I don't wanna do anything that needs. This. I'm leaving. And everything is fine now, and all is healed. And everything is good, obviously like my life ended up how needed to. But that's always been a little bit of source by and I had some college books for years, and I would just kind of look at those in question and be like man, like why am I holding on like why was holding onto it? I'm have kids. I'm not going back to college. Like, I had this inner feeling that I had failed my dad, and when I let go of those books like I I stopped like a voiding my office in that bookshelf in here. Now, I love it. So you see like I never really consciously thought about the book, I never really consciously dealt with Wia was holding onto it. But it was here in it would catch my eye from time to time in filming with negative emotions that weren't clear enough for me to even recognize process. So that's the mental side of Wyatt matters that you don't hold onto things and how it lightens your load immediately the physical side, which gets most people Mark cited is that it kinda can seem like we'll have less close like are gonna have to dri more or like, we'll just sitting in my closet. I'm not really having to wash. Like, why does it matter? So. We wanna just clear that physical space another. I'm gonna have you guys googling a whole lot. Another thing to look up is like the mental emotional benefits of white space. It's called white space. Just having like not having everything full also in interior design. It's a method of creating funk Hsi-wei, a beautiful clear space that you love doesn't have to be cold or non cozy. But having white space in like a closet in a room on a bookshelf in your living room anywhere is so beneficial. It's so good for your mental health. It's just you walk in. And you have that feeling of I'm not over stuffed. My life hasn't overstuffed. Calendar isn't overstuffed. My closet isn't overstuffed. This is good white space brings positive energy. And it's so healing. It's so good for you is to have that white space. So there's that part and then in terms of the like laundry specifically, I'm sorry, my answers or so long. I'm trying to. Like, I am. So with the second hang up. I might cancelling the rest of the day. And I'm going out of the trash, and I know I'm not the only one we're gonna like ever going to post photos and tag us in all the crap the bigger red. Yes, yes, I love and I want you guys to walk away from this. I'm taking time out of my day Stephanie's taking time out of her day. Like, we want this to be worthwhile. And for you to walk away like freaking on fire. So okay. So with laundry, you have what you need to most people most people wear twenty percent of their wardrobe eighty percent of time, that's the average like the statistics out there, maybe give or take a little bit depending unless you have a very unique situation. That's usually what you are doing. So what's the deal that other eighty percent like everybody needs their, you know, their LB their little black dress for weddings events. Everybody needs their workout clothes just in case. Like if ever want have a casualty of and if you don't wear it all the time. Everybody needs a great flair, gene. Like, you know, you've got your Staples. And you don't argue over time, and that's fine. But most of the time if you were to walk into your closet right now, while you're listening to us you'll see stuff that you wish you fit in stuff that used to be your style. But now, it's not like there's no shame and changing your style. But like why are you holding onto the old one? You have all your your different. Now, your new and. And eighty percent is going to be stuff that does not make you happy kinda makes a little depressed. Maybe if you've gone through a surgery, and it caused you to gain weight or something happened in your life or you had a baby or something like you're holding onto the past. And the way that declutter in your clothes does lead to less laundry. Is you have less close you have less to wash. Yes. You may need to get yourself into a rhythm where you're going to like for me. I do a load of laundry every morning because I've got a lot of people in my house, if you're a different season in you're listening, and it's just you or just you in like one or two other people that will look different. But the fact is that it is virtually impossible for me to get like laundry mountain. So over well-made that it's gonna take me all week to catch up because it's just not enough stuff. I don't really like capsule wardrobe personally because I really really like fashion putting together at at probably be doing that. If I wasn't doing this. And I my job and. But I got I've got what I need and everything in there gets warn, you know, at least every once in a while. So you just want to focus on that you want everything in there to get worn in every once in a while, and you're gonna have less to wash gonna have that white space. You're gonna have a clear mental space because of it, and you're not gonna be damaged in your subconscious. Every time you walk into your closet. I feel like that makes so much sense in there really is. I mean, even thinking about my closet now. And I've I've done several passes through it first of all walking in and having shelves that like. Aren't exploding or you know. It's the reason why we've at least me I like break out in hives walking into someplace like forever twenty one I still go because if you spend enough time and there you'll find a gym. But like going in there, I mean, I might exactly goes through the roof. Whereas if you go to some I even like the highest end stores, which I never go in those like, a kid, even pun example. But it's like they have like four things on the shelves and the F really beautiful. I kind of doesn't make any sense. But I mean, it's really beautiful and really like relaxing, this just not as much to to sort through. There's not stuff like falling off the hangers onto the floor ends I feel like our causing to the same way. But there's also something really like imagining walking in your closet and having knowing that one everything fits to everything. Like, there's not anything. That's like missing button sue can't wear it. Like you take care of that. Or get rid of it or growing it out by like, the sweater itchy. Like, I can think of sweaters in my closet. Every time put them on there. Like two short who long are pulling it them. They're too tight or something like that. And it's just you're literally physically uncomfortable all day long. If you wear those things so the difference between that and walking in and seeing a closet that doesn't look like forever twenty one on a sale day and everything in it, you know, fits you and feels nice and makes you feel good in your own skin. Like, that's amazing. And the changes the whole course of your day. Right. Exactly. And it's like you. I love the example, you gave about forever twenty one versus like a high end like little small teak like we need a treat ourselves like that boat teak. There's nothing wrong with having a lot of options. Like, I don't want anyone to miss here me. And I just know this is my job like minimalism and teaching this is my job, and I have a very full closet. I have a lot of close again. I love clothes and love options. I enjoy shopping and I love that. My job has small aspect of of it that allows me like kind of need to constantly be changing and try new things and not looking stale in the old same capsule wardrobe and. Never Chan love that my favorite thing. So it's okay to have a lie if that fits your life. But a lot of people listening are going to hear like let go and feel a lot of freedom in terms of their closet because getting dressed overwhelms them. They've never felt very good at it. They don't really care. They just like basic Staples. You are made to have a capsule job. So again minimalism needs to be less about rules. And how many of these thing you're keeping and less about organising and more about who are you? What serves you? I'm very very just liberal with my clothes in my closet. But I'm extremely strict in my kitchen 'cause I don't really do a ton of fancy things in there. I just want what I need and I want to be able to find it quickly. So me, but who are you? Hey, friends. 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How do we what do we do when we walk into a closet or walk into our kitchen with a bag or something like what do next and how do we deal? I think a lot of the I think a lot of what holds us back is guilt like either guilt that I bought this in the tags are still on thinking of in particular like tags are still on that stupid that I didn't wear it stupid that I bought it. And like should have been more careful, or, you know, my mom bought me, this that happens a lot like this person happy this. I feel bad getting rid of it were what if all like, how do you talk us through the actual you walk into a room you want less stuff? How do you get there? Yeah. And I think like after we address this. I think if you can remember because in case, I forget, I want to circle back and talk about shopping and trying things on and how to do that. So. So that we because you have to you can't like put a band aid on a wound that still bleeding underneath like we stopped that feed and get intentional with what we're bringing into our house in the first place. So we can maybe like circle back to that. After I deal with this. Like, I wanna address what you said. So so heavy so important that guilt almost like shame. Like, oh my gosh. Am I part of the problem? I waste full like America's so wasteful. That is so hard to not be part of the problem. So right down. I'll make sure we circle back. Okay. Okay. So first let's deal with that guilt. When you're going into declutter, and you get hit with that like whether it's that you shouldn't have wasted money on something. And you can't believe you did that and you're gonna hold onto it because well, it's all tags on like who does the who gets the soles tags on it or oh my gosh. My mom cannot seem to nail down my style. And this is awful, but she gave it to me, and I've just been holding onto it. The thing is like let's deal with the buying thing. I you didn't you're not wasting money by letting go of something that still has the tags on you wasted money. When you bought it in the first place, and we're all growing and learning like we're all learning lessons and evolving in our own versions of ourselves. That's just a lesson be thankful that it served you in the way that it taught you this lesson and how much more mind. Full. Are you going to be shopping after that like visually seeing yourself grab that shirt down? And put it in the donation bag is such a lesson. Let's not be shaming and guilting ourselves. Let's be grateful everything that we have has served us in some way. So if something is like stale and needs to be a new one it served, you surges purpose until it expired announce time to replace it with a new one even that shirt that you're thinking of the has the tags on it that you feel kind of dumb for buying like, no it served a purpose. It's teaching you will lessen its teaching you to grow into a woman who is much less wasteful and his intentional all the way down even to how she shops amass a really big deal. So it shifts that mindset from negative. I'm so dumb on my gosh. I can't believe this. I'm going to hold onto it. 'cause I can't deal with the emotions that come up when I think of being this wasteful to positive. Thank you for this lesson. Like, I'm so glad that I learned that I'm moving on. This isn't have a place in. A new life. I love that in a love you talked earlier about how everything costs something like everything costs money. But it also costs time in space and not like precious white space that so important for mental health in. So it's like, okay, I love how you said we already we already wasted the money. The money's gone. So now are we going to continue to like throw good money after bad in the fact that we're Sankar facing white space where sacrificing like we're adding to our clutter were like, we're still we're paying again. So right. I never would have thought about it that way. That's really great. Exactly. Like, are you going is you you wasted money in the beginning? And now you're going to be even more wasteful by wasting more white space and moments from this shirt like it's not worth that. Yeah. Get out of that. Shame space. What it go? And then I think when it comes to things that other people gave us this is what that women need to know. You do not have some invisible contract. That's odd. Leading you to hold onto things for X amount of time. This person something it reminded them of you in some way, they thought they would give it to you. Or you had a birthday or something that obligated them to get you something I think we overestimate how much thought people put into us over estimate how much emotional like attachment. They have to the fact that we're keeping this thing. Some people are crazy, especially when you have kids if you don't like the the inlaws in grandparents to the kids in the toys, they give them it. It gets it gets pretty steep in. It's like, whoa it, which was toys. She wasn't playing with like, relax. You know? Like, it even comes to stuff like that. Like, a sweater, your mom, gave your whatever. Like, it's it's okay. You're not being ungrateful by letting go of this is your home in your space. Your moment's a gift is amazing 'cause you don't have to spend the dollars. But you're still spending the minutes, you're still sacrificing white space just be thankful. Like, write them a great. Thank. Hugh card if you need to put on and send a picture in it. And like just say, thank you so much mom, and then go ahead and let it go. It's okay. It's okay to go straight from the birthday dinner and head to goodwill. Like, it's okay. There's nothing wrong with and I think we've just get wrapped up in this like, but it's so sad. And like, what is she going to think like her civil if somebody gives you a gift, and they ask you where it is. I feel like they have more problems than you do. Like, we did have a conversation about that. That is the way when what is going on not going on in your life that you remembered to get that you gave me something in your asking where it is. Or if I have it like awkward much. That's not that's not on me. Like, that's on you. And you if ever does happen. I just read you rack dispatch people know what I do for a living. So that does happen to me. They're like digit clatter it. Sure kidding. I'll just circle back around. And be like. Oh, yeah. About sweater. I love that you gave that to me. It was had such beautiful colors and look really flattering. Thank you so much for that loved it. Like, I totally avoided saying that it will have it anymore. Yeah. Also, any of my friends are saying, this is the most awkward moment of my life. Because I've said this like five of them recently. You know, you're avoiding the fact that you've got rid of it. But like thanking them for their time in their thought and their money, and how sweet it was. But yeah, you're kind of kind of crossing a weird Brown to ask me if I still have. That's weird. We'll okay. So I'm glad that you said that because I'm gonna try to say this in a way that's not going to get me in trouble. So there are seasons for for all different reasons that I've been given something or miasma Carlin, I've been given something I feel like I have to really careful 'cause I don't know who's listening. And as podcast. And things, but you know, sometimes the thing isn't we already have it or can't return exchanges. Exchanging is a really big deal something that I didn't know before our wedding when we were registering for gifts is that you e- exchange like everything in. So when we're when you're getting a wedding gift for somebody the chances that they're going to have three magic bullets which we had three magic bullets. I don't know how that happened. The registry is supposed to keep track of that for you. But we end with three we got to take two of them back in exchange for like half a vacuum or something which we've really needed. We didn't have a vacuum and that help pay for that. And so I feel like one feel a little bit free or when you're giving people wedding gifts because the the shuffle that happens after the wedding happens. And it's totally okay for you as the couple and for you as the gift giver, like they're just trying to sort out with need, and that's true for all of us with with any gift that we're given. We're just sort of trying to sort out what we need, and we may be given like something we already have or a couple of something. So okay. Maybe I can give this example. I was given. I don't think they're going to listen to this. I was given the same book three times. Hopefully, and the book was so thoughtful. And I love it. And I loved it the first time in the second time in the third time. And it's so cute that this one book made three people that I dearly love think of me will I didn't have the receipt. I couldn't exchange it. And so what I did. And what I've actually started doing is. I have shelf in one of our one of our bedrooms, we have kind of this big shelf, and I have gifts, and they're things that I've either bought in bulk like bought four of the same book because it's a great gift or. Bottles of wine because we need to every once in a while Sunday, you can't buy bottled wine, and you need to take something to someone's house or the birthday, you forgot you have a couple extra candles or something like that. But anyway, so I had the books on that shelf. And I was able to regifter them which sounds terrible. But the they were brand new I didn't touch him. Regifter them to other people. And so that gift was still like a gift and a blessing. Just I got to pass it on. And I feel like we can do that. Whether it's storing things up to say, hey, what I'm not gonna wear this. But someone would really love this or I was given this for free. I already have one I'm going to hang onto it. Because I know this person I'm gonna give it to them for their birthday. They'll love it. And I feel like that's the opposite of wasteful. That's really resourceful and the same is true about something like goodwill, or you know, like buffalo exchange or something like where you can actually sell your clothes. That's going to be a gift to someone else. You got the you got to feel grateful. You've got to be loved and you get to pass on. There's nothing wrong with that. And I think too like just realizing like, I think it's a certain personality type. And I definitely know that it is not mine. Well, like, it's a certain personality type of people that I tend they always kind of have the same type of like the way they speak in the way, they are very sensitive in sweet. And just like always thinking of other people in every circumstances to fault to where they're not functioning at their best selves because they're always putting people first, and then, you know, this type of person than they like volcano because they're feeling guac did. Yes. Ended up person. Well. So like that I seems to be like the people what those personality types that are listening might wanna like just pay really close attention to that. Like there's nothing wrong with just being like, oh my gosh. Thank you so much for this. You are so sweet and then holding onto it and regifter later, also like what you said about having the bottles of wine, and like Arno, maybe keep like some birthday cards and stuff like that, simplifying your life. That's not clutter bad as a purpose. And that is saving you time and stress and making you prepared like, yes, I can't go to dinner tonight last minute. I will bring a bottle of wine like, yes. Buying your life so much. I so I totally to on the Graham for anyone who knows what that means. So Ali just said about being the kind of person who like sometimes struggles to recognize their own needs that has been my work for the last couple years, and I've grown so much. But I can totally be over sentimental, and I can worry to worry about hurting someone's feelings by gifting something. And and so it's something I've really had to work through. But that I. And the other thing is terrible gift giver for my whole life. I've never been the person that shows up with the thoughtful gift, I just have never known how to do that. But it's been really cool because I've been able to connect one thing to the other someone loving me. And giving me a gift is so great, and I don't have to hold onto it out to be a great thing. I can then pass it on and have gifts that are ready to go and birthday cards that are ready to go. And then I can be better friend in a more thoughtful gift giver passing on it's been. So then it's my. Somebody else was as good at giving gifts. And they gave you a great one, and you already had it. So you're able to like use their gifts to boss somebody else. And my husband is also a two on the Ingraham, and I'm an eight. So, you know, I think that I understand that type of personalities have a lot more than a us two minutes. Just it's so good. And I've just want like really quick to just pour into you. And just say like that is such a gift like it is so powerful to care for others. I oughta medically like for me. It's kind of more like, okay, wait. I think I think doing the thing again back think about everyone else for a second is. So I mean, it's such a gift, but yeah, don't let it don't. Let yourself be a slave to anything. Not your personality type, not depression, not anxiety, not clutter. Nothing. Like, we don't wanna live our lives in flavor to anything. And I think that all of this falls under that like you're getting out of slavery in all these different. Areas in creating in that freedom for yourself. I love that so much. Thank you friends. We were talking about how to like, so I feel like we've talked about the guilt thing like we can get rid of stuff. So now, how do we make the decision? And I know that there's no rules. It's not you can have as many pairs of jeans as fits your lifestyle. But like chirp, how do we what's our filter that we go through our house with and you mentioned a golden rule about not stopping halfway through. I feel like I want to hear more about that too. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. So in the actual process kind of like, I always kinda give a bunch of different phrasings, and like examples of like KOMO like these key questions like core philosophies that will help you filter things through because different phrasings in different like trigger words are powerful to different people. So like, I mentioned earlier one thing is like is this worthy. Like, you know, that this is taking up your time, you paid for it with your dollars you paid for it with your minutes, and you will continue to pay for it with your minutes until you don't have it anymore. So is this worthy? Isn't that you need like toaster oven. Yes. I need to use that it's okay. That I have to wipe the fingerprints off of it and dump the crumb tray out and lifted up to I've underneath it. When I'm cleaning the kitchen, it's my toaster-oven, and they need it. So that's okay. That's an easy one. But you know, this like go back to the sweater that my grandma gave me why am I hard time with this is this worthy. Like, no, it's itchy. It's ugly. I just feel weird about it. I know she's going to ask me about it. When I see her at thanksgiving. That's not worthy of your space in your time in the your lack of white space. You're cutting down on your house or by forty to sixty percent, right? Like is this you're gonna cut back on that percentage for this wetter? Like, it's it's not worthy asking that question. Like is this worthy is this? Adding to my life is another one to the task or another even another way to phrase is this worthy is this adding to my life in a positive way. Think about like I always talk about the ideal versions of ourselves. Like have you ever bought some? Something because you wanted to be the type of person that wears that are uses that, but you never actually wear it or used it. Yes. Yeah. But that's because the ideal version of yourself that you have again in your subconscious, which is all important things light. Apparently you wanted to be that person. Like for me, it was fancy little hairclips like I really like made. Well, and they have like these like little goals like soft dainty, very minimalist, but pretty and dainty like hairclips, I would get one almost every time. I walked into that store, and then I realized like made willing cheap. I've got like three hundred dollars of hairclips in here. And I've literally never worn one. Like what the heck? And I realized like my ideal version of myself would take the time to tie her hair back and put little ties and stuff. But the reality is I have a lot of scarring on my temples that I'm very self conscious about an I feel my best when my hair down. And I love my hair. I think it's a really great feature that I have. So I always like to curl it in where it messy wavy and down. And that's just where I'm comfortable. So. So the real version of me doesn't wear pretty dainty clips, I kept one case ever, go to a fancy dinner something which happens, and I got rid of the rest, and that's a perfect gift to say just to a friend of mine who's a hair silence. And she always has things in her hair. And she looked at me with like is is big as saucers like aren't these made? Well, like, they are guests. I think I might be a little bit wasteful. But here you can gift it and happy birthday in three months as a loan. Hello. You're just kind of like checking in like, it is this is this meat, or is this the ideal version of me, and this adding to my life and giving me purpose, it helping me live on purpose is it worthy of all of these things that alleges taught me of time and housework and clutter and white space and mental space and the risk of subconsciously kind of walking into a depressive wool because of what I'm holding onto is this worthy. Those are some really like heavy serious guidelines, and when you walk in with that in your armed with that not a lot of things fit that Bill. That's it's tough. It's tough to fit that. So you're going to be able to be really ruthless. And then I think also don't be impractical again with a toaster oven. Like, if there's a toy that, you think is just disgusting and dirty and trash, but your son is obsessed with it and would be heartbroken. If you got rid of it. Don't torture your family, like don't make life harder. Don't. Well, I have this body soap that I love, but I have three more under my sink, and that's clutter. So I'm going to get rid of it. All you use the body, soap, you love it. You're eventually gonna run out like why are you wasting money? So kind of balance these Hitler's the you don't like. Yeah. Get rid of when or if you have like three that you bought in bulk of the same one that you love than keep it. You're eventually gonna need them. Like, why are you doing that? But yeah, don't if you like if you bought a lotion and you'll like the smell throw it out. If you bought a lotion menu liked it so much you bought five others don't throw away the five others because they're clutter. Eventually you're gonna run out, and you're gonna need those like or gift to your mom or something. But you see what I'm saying like hopefully balancing. Yeah. Balancing that the philosophical part of it of like is this worthy with just simple logic. And like commonsense. And the other thing that you mentioned was not stopping halfway through. So there are three golden rules to making declaring session successful. And. One of them is your not finished like don't walk away until the things that you decided to keep or putting the keep pile are put in their new homes because when you're doing that you might realize oh crap. I don't have any home for this. I guess I don't have the space for it. No wonder my house has been so cluttered, I'm going to get rid of it. Anyway. So the things that you're keeping are putting their new homes that things that you decided our trash and not even worth like, you know, maybe they're broken or something that can't even like regifter them or donate them go in the trash bag and get walked out of your house into the outside. Trash can you're all the way out and the things that are donate or gifted get dealt with. So like if you're like Stephanie put have a spot where you put gifts for people. I have this like really cool vintage console downstairs in my entryway. And there's a there's nine Jordan because it's a it's actually a dresser from the seventies. So I use one of the drawers for cards like thank you birthday anniversary just in case like Minnesota friend than I realized I forgot. Can you know, give her card or whatever? And then another one for like that shelf that you were talking about like, we'll gifts just like books, and publishers are always sending me books enough that I don't want an regret for my friend, who's going through a divorce or whatever this book is about. And so you don't have it there. So your things that you realize you can regifter can goes in your spot like that or the things that you're going to donate get bagged up. And then here's the thing was with donations donating can often be a way to continue to hold onto clutter. So here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna bag up your donations. And you're going to do one of two things you're either going to go on goodwill or Salvation Army. If that's what floats your boat in that you donate to and schedule a pickup. If you've got like large items in furniture in like big a lot of clothes and stuff. They'll they'll come pick it up for you. Or you're going to set an alarm in your phone for no more than three days from now from that day that you're cutting and remind yourself to drop off that stuff at the nation center. If you're gonna donate to a women. Shelter or church or whatever that's fine. Find what you know works for you. And no more than three days and that bag needs to get out of the room. You just declared. What's going to happen is your husband's gonna Mandarin and be like, hey, I gave you this. Or hey, I been looking for this even though it's at or meant for eight years, like get it out your room should be clean vacuumed. Everything put away like done, otherwise it's gonna come undone. Or like what I just did my closet now, it's been four days and broke my own rule, and my closets total crap show, and I can't even find my shoes. It gets like it. Does get worse before it gets better. But if westoff way through it just got worse. Yeah. I just got worse. Did nothing you frustrated yourself, and you're going to be like subconsciously again, you're going to be like ALI'S. The worst told me the clutter now. Everything's a mess than I don't even wanna go in my room because you didn't finish because you didn't finish Ali. I promise you out remember circle back to the shopping thing. Yes. See I did forget, okay. I got after you. Like, workout decluttering and side note, really quick if you're overwhelmed always start in the bathroom. There's not a lot of emotional stuff in there. It's an easy. Yes. Or no. And that will give you some momentum. But once you deal with the cluttering stuff, you've gotta realize that there's a bleed happening. And you've gotta stop that bleed. So you have to get a handle on the incoming flow of stuff. This is a really big topic. There's like celebrations in holidays birthdays and things that are being brought in from other people, but will focus on your shopping right now. So when you're shopping. Unless I mean, there's very little wiggle room here. But like unless you like let's go back to made. Well, let's save it. You have two pairs of jeans from while the same jeans the same size, you know, your size. Maybe got four pairs from there. And you just know this is my size it made while I'm getting the same silos the different color. I don't try them on that's fine. Otherwise, don't shop unless you like how time and I mean, sometimes I'm just like really not in the mood to try things on then don't shop like shop. When you're we have time in your in the mood to try things on I was at anthropology the other day looking for dress for this event. And I found this really really cute top like it just looks like it was made for me. And I went in and tried it on and I mean, I don't know what it was something about the fabric. It was just like it was like the designer was like, okay, what could make Ali look like fifty pounds. Heavier in like really boxing dislike really screwed up mission. Accomplish. Shirt. Like Valda was worse. Gosh, it was so random like it had my favorite colors and patterns like you just never know anthro H E like I would have bought that shirt and gone home and been like what the heck I don't live near them. So, you know, I would the whole circles starts I now I'm not going to reach out to them and ask about the returns on the phone because I'm busy, but it's gonna sit there that thirty day periods gonna pass and I wasted. I mean, an anthropology probably a solid hundred dollars on a that is not made for me. Yep. So always try things on matter. What unless it's like, oh already knew I have these. I just want them in black or whatever it is. So try things on N. Also, ask yourself like you should feel it doesn't matter if you just had a baby or if you're at the fittest point in your life. If you've been going through a hard time you've gained sixty pounds. It doesn't matter every single thing. No, exceptions, pajamas workout wear sweatpants, t shirts your little black dress. S all the way up to what you wear to like a fancy event or a wedding or something every single item even your panties and your bras should make you look and feel an walk like, you are fifteen pounds lighter. You are confident, and you would easily be photographed in that outfit. Every single thing. Like your underwear if they leave a big line on your butt cheeks and make yovany of cellulite or way, more cellulite than you. Do. Why are you do that to yourself? You're worth way, more than that every single thing when you're hanging out at home with your hubby, and you're in your sweatpants t shirts, you should feel adorable. You shouldn't feel annoyed or uncomfortable. You should feel beautiful all the time. We ov- at to ourselves. And I hate hate hate when I hear women talking like like, I just like, I just look awful. Of course, I ran into her that I looked awful. No like, you should never feel. It's went through our faces in our hair. Of course, it turned into a crapshoot. Sometimes, but like are close like you should feel beautiful on flattered all the time. Why on God's green earth? Would you spend money on something that's gonna make you feel words or hold onto it when it makes you feel worse? So that's my rule of them. I think that every woman is incredible in beautiful in every shape has it strengthen weaknesses just like our personality types in the our minds function. We all have our strengths and weaknesses and anybody can pull off bright lipstick anybody can pull off ankle boots, skinny jeans flares, whatever you want. But it's about how you feel. If you look amazing, everyone thinks you look great in those jeans. But you are just really not feeling it. They're they're pointless, and they're a waste of money in their waste of space. So try things on stop the bleed don't buy things unless like you should feel like oh my gosh. I don't wanna take this off. I am freaking out and so excited to where. To you know, that dinner party or to wear to church on Sunday, or whatever it is like you should be so excited in gladly pay the money for that not like while I guess this will work like you should never buy something without there's so much in the world. Like there are so many stores, especially now that we can shop online we can shop from any country in the world pretty much, and I feel like there's no like our standards are just pretty low. It's like we're dating and we go on a date with a guy. He's like, I don't know. Okay. In the conversations. Okay. And we have an okay time. Like, yeah. I guess I'll marry him like, no, we have to have higher standards hat, and it is possible to find things that are soft and beautiful in your favorite color, and like we should hold out and have have higher standards. Not let anything into our house unless we love it. There was a. You know, people I feel like are talking about Murray condo a lot right now. Just because of her show on Netflix and stuff, and I love a lot of what she does some of the stuff. I'm like, I don't think I could ever fold things like that. Or? I don't know. But the thing about sparking joy, I've had this conversation with so many people her philosophy is you should pick something up. And if it doesn't spark joy in you. You should get rid of it. And I feel like when I've talked to people about the idea of just going through your house and getting rid of stuff. One of the biggest like hesitations is. Okay. My trash can doesn't bring me joy. There's not a trash can. And it's going to bring me joy. But I don't actually think that's true like the one that stinks that has gum stuck to the bottom of it that you've had since high school that doesn't match the rest of your room. Like that doesn't bring you joy, a new trash can that doesn't stink that matches sleek. And that you picked out like that. It's not gonna like make you jump for DUI. But when you see it you're gonna feel like yes, this looks like I hope it would look and things like a spatula like if you're going through your specialist, one of them you melted making pancakes and the other one you didn't and you prefer using one. It's like that's. When you keep it, right? I'm so glad you brought up the trash can thing. Because like we had. Okay. So I really love design I love interior design. And it's important to me that my house is beautiful and functional for my kids. But I don't I don't feel that you need to sacrifice beauty just because you have. So I am I catch in like we worked really hard on the house. We love it. It's like all white white subways. How white grout like white counters everything is white and clean and open and beautiful. Well, we have this like trashcan that we just had used for forever. And it was black. And it was plastic. I just like the ones from target with the lid that spins around, and like you can put things in and it was plastic. So it was light. And it would like move whenever I have my hands full of like Turkey me and like gig or whatever like trying to like get get like move. And I'd like spill, and I was always having to clean it showed every single Mark because it was black, and it just wasn't working the Spinney lid was really wide. So I'd like spin it and push it to put something in and the. The gunk would catch on the back of the other side of the laid. And it was because it was like a who what is happening. And so my husband was like, look, I found this trash can called simple human, and I'm not promoting them or anything. I don't know them. But I'm just saying. No, we're with you, simply human enters simple human. But it was like a simple human brand trash cans, and they're like kind of expensive. So I was like, oh, I guess. So I was like, well, let's just do it. We did it. And it's like it's so sleek it's white with a silver top the lid is responsive. So it's already open when I walk over to it. It has a foot thing on it. If it ever for some reason dozen cents you you're like standing there trying to lift it with your pinky nail. Like it. It's so random it changed the way I felt about my kitchen, and it it matters. Like, I so agree with you, the spark joy thing. Just the only reason I don't go along with that is first of all that's her thing. And she's so good at what she does the wave. She doesn't. And if you like that type of teaching like, amazing, she's doing great things. But firm like I'm the tight be among I'm busy like, I don't I don't just doesn't it doesn't speak Donnie in that way to just do that. I'm looking at the purpose and like like again like. Is this worry trashcan wasn't worthy. And it certainly didn't spark joy. And now mine does. So it you're so right. It does matter every single thing makes you feel something. So the last thing I want to ask you about Elliot's just can you you start to talk about this at the beginning. But I feel like I would love to just leave women with a picture of what this can look like at the end of the day. Like, can you tell us about your house? Tell us how it feels for your family to be in your house. Tell us tell us kind of what the after can look like. And I know we're all like, I know you have a closet to clean. Tells like what what can the result of this look? Yeah. So it it looks like it just looks like a good feeling everywhere. I know that sounds funny. But honestly, it's like I walk in with my hands full of groceries at my kids being cranky of day. And that's my problem. And that's it. I don't also have a giant pile of laundry like a bunch of stuff to do. I have the space. I need in my day to do my work and run my business in help women all over the world. And then like do language arts with my kids and play video game with them. Like, I'm Super Mario. We play all the time. Like make dinner and like just live homes are designed for us to live in and make memories in. They weren't designed to own us take over and requires so much maintenance that you're having to either like spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars to have other people maintain them for you day today or spend all your time doing it. Like, I I've delegated what I can as a busy mom in businesswoman. Like, I have a housekeeper that comes every week. I love her. But she's cleaning the baseboards she scrubbing the tubs. She's not like only my gosh. Like, I have to fold all his laundry for you like, it's not there's nothing like that. It's open and clean. We've lived in super super tiny houses. We bought a camper and renovated it and lived in it for a year while we turned the country. Like we've lived in a box literally as a camper, and like we now have a way bigger house and we've lived in all types of houses. And it doesn't matter all boils down to this space that was made for you with all the stuff that you need to do your life. Like, I have all. All the tech tools that I need to run my online business and no other ones just because they were shiny and seemed cool. I of the close at need to have inspiration and mix and match different outfits and styles together and walk out of the house feeling so good like, I always get complimented on my outfits, and I don't think it's because they're Q. I think it's because I feel so good I walk into places like I own them. And I'm confident and happy I feel beautiful and even as I work on my health and losing weight from having babies, I feel so good and my house feels that way to get set setup for life to happen. Their storage where we need it from the kids stuff than school stuff. And all that. And it's beautiful though. Like, everything is beautiful. I love being in my kitchen, even though I don't like to cook. I love being in my laundry room, even though I really don't like doing laundry like everything is just beautiful because when you spend time being intentional about removing the access the natural next step is to make it beauty. Awful and make it a space that you love being an even more. 'cause you just made yourself love being that I've been thinking, I'm with you. I love interior design, and I'm not great at it. Like, it will never be my job. But it's totally one of my biggest hobbies, I love creating spaces and our home, and it's funny because on the weekends. I find myself wanting to do a lot of house projects and then during the week. I don't have time to do anything in my house, but I feel like on the weekends. I get to nurture my house and create spaces that are nurturing. And then during the week, I'm nurtured by my house, and like it's something beautiful in this one place. I've put a soft blanket right where I'm going to need it. And then during the week on a Wednesday evening when it's cold and rainy outside the blankets. Just where I wanted it. And I feel like when we invest in our spaces and clear things out and make them feel like we want them to feel like we wanna feel in them. We actually get to be nurtured by them in return. Yeah. And that's the whole point. That's why we spend money on things. That's why we shopped for. Things that make us happy. And when you walk into target or a place like anthropology, and you see the candles and the throw blankets and all the cute stuff. You don't think? Like, oh, I just like that. You imagine it in your home. And you imagine your ideal life that you don't have. So instead of like letting that lead to frustration like let it lead to motivation to create the home that you want and then fill it with things that matter and are worth that space to you. I love that. There's one other thing I wanted to tell you about we had my my mother-in-law on the show at the end of last season, and she is an incredible interior designer, and she she creates spaces like no one ever seen. So I just try to copy everything she does. But one of the things that she she's done when it comes to the things to keep that are that are sentimental that I love and I'm so glad I got to see her do this. I is every holiday like every season. So for Christmas, for example, she has the best art projects that her kids. My husband and his siblings ever made. So it's like. Their first drawing of Santa Claus to a Christmas list. That's particularly hilarious too. I mean, they're all like the funniest things that they made throughout their time being kids, and I feel like me being a two and being sentimental. I feel like I've I will feel pressure to keep everything. I'm so glad I got to see her do that. And to keep an eye out for the best the funniest the silliest, the, you know, like one of the Christmas lists my brother-in-law asked for a t shirt, and and like in the world like. Yes. Seriously like food too. I don't know. But it's fun because she has a basket that she puts out at Christmas time, and we go through our the favorite Christmas cards throughout the years and letters from their great grandparents and those funny Christmas lists, and we all look through them at Christmas because she has a folder of just the very best things that she collected throughout the years. And so I feel like that's I been thinking about life that way in so many areas of my house, and the things I keep it like I don't have to keep every single card that I get, but I keep the best ones and actually put them somewhere where we can enjoy them. And I I love that way of looking at things. I'm really glad I got to see her do that. Yeah. And I think too like even that idea like we we do that year round with I love that Christmas idea actually wrote a you're talking because it's so good. But I think like that's a great rule of thumb for cinema items like my kids make art work, and it's weird to just like take your borough. So. I do that with everything. But the really really amazing ones are really cute ones. They don't realize it's hilarious because it looks like the horse has even though it's a leg like something. Like really funny like that. This is funny to like us. I have a wall wall where it's like all their artwork and just like the best of and it's makes your house feel so warm and it just fills you with joy. And that is the kind of stuff you want in your house. It's not about not having anything sentimental or going digital and only taking pictures of it. And scanning it and letting go of all the originals. It's just about choosing. What is the most and keeping that? And then you utilizing it like hanging on the wall like make it a part of your Christmas decor, like your mother-in-law like use it don't just let it sit in an attic somewhere love that love that Ali. You have any just last words of encouragement for women as they're gathering up trash bags in about two tackle their homes. Yeah. I just want to say that like it is so normal for you to start to get really over. Wow. And lose momentum. And like forget what I said and just kind of lose that steam, but just slow and steady wins the race. Put like a fifteen minute reminder every morning in your phone, or you know, twenty minute decluttering session every Saturday morning before you head to branch with your mom, or whatever it is like before you would church just little tiny chunks. Just a few minutes where you do a drawer. You do half a closet. You know, whatever it is into chunk away at it. It's okay to not go big or go home. Like, it's not for everybody. So slow and steady progress is greater than perfection here. And eventually like you will get done. Don't make this a big official thing. Like, oh, I am decluttering right now. So I have to go all the what like just just work on it. Like just go whenever you can. If you feel inspired in you're waiting for your, you know, your water to boil like declutter the junk, drawer, whatever it is slow and steady progress. I love that. I love that Ali. Thank you so much for being here. I am so inspired. I know the women listening to and I just I so appreciate the work. You're doing things. Again course, thank you for having me. You guys isn't alley. Amazing. I just love her. And I love this conversation. And I'm so happy I got to share it with you friends before we go. It would mean so much to me if you would take one quick second leave us rating a review on I tunes we've gotten so many amazing five star reviews. Comments from y'all and just means the world to me, it also helps out the podcast more than you can imagine. So if you haven't yet, please just one quick second today to leave a rating a review, thank you so much. That's all we have for today. But we'll be back next week with another set of girls night. And trust me, you are going to love it. See then.
EP. 311 - Chris Bell and World Carnivore Month Update
"Search Okay I got it I'll bring Akito brick. I got a couple of okay there. We we haven't started a podcast within the fart noises. While thank you sorry. That was me that was a wet one was. I'm sorry. Oh Man. I went off my dat last night. Do they know it's so funny at your Gypsy when people like rolling really hard like it'll happen almost every class or at least two people you'll like an untapped. It's a map done it before too. We'll just here a three no control in that situation because Jitsu to get position on. Somebody's dig a knee or elbow. Rate and someone's guts Soviet. superbeets is just smash somebody a lot of times more out the gym before I go I always try to force out all flex into my bell. As hard as I can I usually have one syllable farts like little. It's weird when you when you lift your carpet. What more can always hear him? Because like I'll do it and nobody else in Jemele here gods love because one syllable so accurate. It's weird when somebody somebody farts arts when they're lifting it's weird. It's a different sound like it. Sounds like a crack knee or hip or something you like. I'm not I think I know what that was. Not a hundred percent is your I. There's a lot of stuff going on. I always try to use it like oh my hip hop but one time I did not swear. My hip hop uh-huh. That's what's great is like no it was this is it's a chair and then you try to make the sound again and it never make sound twice you like okay. Never mind bothered to try to defend ourselves on anything really because it always makes you seem way worse. Yes ship before you squat. Oh Yeah it's like it's like clockwork from even if I'm in the gym Like before I get into a swap bar like oh here it is. It's like poop before I do. Well I used to. I used to actually lift some weights so like when there was actually what I knew I had to lift something heavy. I would be nervous about it and so I'd have to shit every time and that's what the Miller workout. That's why I stopped a mixed diet you can't you can't really squat heavy. Yeah I I don't have those kinds of problems anymore. Something that happened in the gym. One time that I mean there's been a lot of gross stuff. Oh man that's a whole podcast in and of itself it's been a a lot of gross stuff but this is one of the grocer things happen One of our lifters Needed help getting his lifting briefs on you know so you have to give the guy a wedgie because it's really tight. It's a help. You spot more weight. Supportive gear. Supportive power than gear. And so the guy's trying to legal hips into this suit that they got the other guy is giving living in Wedgie in and as they're doing that the guy's grip kind of slips a little bit and he can't hold onto them anymore and so the guy kind of like plunges to the ground. They doesn't the all the way to the ground but he plunges down any kind of unexpected out of nowhere and so he he just hit like a real quick squat almost and he gets back up and this the older guy the the gray model lift that is in the gym is from him he since has passed But he gets up from that and he goes I just shit myself and we all start laughing as if he's like kidding around but he's like no like this is going to be and then he needed help getting getting it all he did it in the briefs off and we're trying to help him. But we're like we're like gagging as we're trying to pull the briefs down and he goes. He goes as soon. Just get past this one thing. He's GonNa get real messy. I was like I'm not part of that like once. We get it to hear you out to figure it out on your own. So he went to the bathroom and and I guess figured the rest out. I'm from there. But it was horrifying. That movie trainspotting remember. They flung the poop guy came out of the toilet. You've mentioned this movie movie four and I told myself I'd watch it but I never have a training providing enjoy about heroin addicts in the UK. Oh It's insane but it's it's a really good movie. I mean it was like an Oscar nominated at one anything I just remember. It was like it's just one of those crazy tales of like crazy British. Dude you know. What do you think that connection is between addiction and what we're seeing with obese obesity people being heavy and like addiction to food versus the things? You are addicted to do. You think there's much of a difference now not at all. Actually there's been a lot of studying this recently. There's a lot of controversy about it. People will say that Food addiction is not a real thing. But you can actually read it on everybody's face and everybody's body that walks by food addiction is obviously a real thing. Because if people want addicted to it. They wouldn't be fixated on every single day. They wouldn't be fixated on what they're going to eat every day These things pass when he'd go on things like a carnivore Diet Kito Genyk Diet or even a well laid out a mixed diet That's healthy right like you don't have these cravings when you get rid of the process awesome refined foods before I was just comparing We find food salon pornography. It's something that you wouldn't give your kids. I like. You wouldn't let your kids open access the Internet you have all these blockers and trackers and keep your kids safe. We have fucking zero at home for their own on human health zero blockers on their food that they're going to eat your feeding and crackers one year old and we know now but that stuff causes gut permeability. I'm these kids are older. We know that these things you know they cause problems gluten and all these other things that we've heard about for years they cause problems in children. We have hyperactive gift children. We have obese children and those obese. hyperactive children grow up to be shitty adult. That have shitty attitudes and do shitty things. In my opinion I think that you know keeping your food clean and keeping your sources clean sound mind sound body. It's all clean. Obviously like things can go wrong with anything but I just think we're in such a better position to be healthy as human beings mentally if we get rid of the physical addiction to all these things that we have and and we just separated ourselves from it like when I went on a carnivore diet uphold every single thing out of my diet. It's a lot of those things where like addictive Steak sake is not necessarily addictive. You're not gonNa you know you crave it only. because he needs something to eat. But that's why I got rid of cheese because cheese I I feel as addictive and same with some of the dairy to start mixing that in I start going cheese. It's an opioid so I mean it's Just as addicting as as anything that would be an opioid you know and I'm not flip side of that obviously like mine. Bullet is mild a mild opioid it but it produces an immediate produces effects that are positive so it's all about like what what is cheese produced cheeses addictive and I eat it too much and then I gain in weight from it and that's not good for me. Why does mind bullet helped with fascinating? Do you think we talked about fasting in the last podcast because mentally I think were so attracted to win. Whoa we need something to fulfil us to satisfy us and I think that it takes off it puts us at ease? It relaxes us. I think I think the I know for myself. Eve- Every day and this is like even recently being on a carnivore diet for a long time. If I fasted all day like I wasn't like Oh you guys you guys are machines when it comes to fast and I I envy that. Can I try. I'm trying to get more and more like that but if I fast all day and I don't have food until the night eight time I get really anxious. I get like this anxiety. Why didn't eat better stuff? Three thousand calories now so that I don't Wake up hungry because tomorrow I'm not. I'm GONNA intermittent fasting. I won't be able to eat later on the day and I found that Getty completely getting rid of intermittent fasting for me is what actually allowed me to intermittent fasting which is really weird so I started eating all day and then when I started eating all day I was able to cut out some of that eating all day. A lot easier than I was is to just try to jump into fast. It goes back to Dr Ken Berry being on the podcast and talking about protein and and Ted Neiman being on the podcast and saying look. You Know Ken Berry even throughout a challenge said hey I dare you to try to get fat on steak and eggs and I've tried it like go for it and it yes of course you could gain wait and of course there's going to be anomalies right. There's going to be some people that probably could continue to eat enormous amounts of food. But I would imagine that after about two or three days ace. You'd start to get some pallet fatigue and it would just be very difficult and you wouldn't end up maybe fasting for eighteen hours or anything like that. But you might vast for four hours in six hours intermittently when this world carnivore months started only nine days ago Shout out to our boy Dr Baker for starting world a carnivore month. Were all very thankful altering and so when I started though I I started a couple days early like maybe three days early and I basically basically eight myself from one ninety two ten which sounds insane the people but I just kept eating and eating and eating I was like I'm GonNa stuff myself with meat and see what happens after I did that for a couple of days my eating just really slowed way down and like right. Now I'm back down to about two or three but I feel like even when I got up to two ten Jack I felt solid like I didn't feel I didn't feel too. I didn't feel like I put on fat. I might have. I don't know because we don't have a way to really accurately check our body fat every single day If we did it would be a lot easier kind of tell these things but I really blew up and actually fell for the first time. PAIN-FREE I didn't tired Daiwa had. Yeah no pain to me. That's a miracle that's crazy like no pain zero. And every day I was eighty eighty feeling shitty and so so since then I've had some days of pain but not that bad it's been very very diminished by going. A little bit stricter on a Corner Road I. I didn't think that because people say well. You've been doing this for like two years. Well what's different now. What's different now is I was allowing? I some variability in it because I thought like maybe it's too restrictive for me and now I think like maybe my way is red meat and water like maybe. That's what I have to do in order to feel the best that I feel. And that's what I have to do in order to feel good that I'm just going to do it and I'm not gonNA complain about it. And and that's it you know I'm not going to force it on other people because I also realized that I've done a half ass carnivore diet for. I wouldn't say half outside say ninety percent ass carnivore diet for For two years ears. And it's amazing things for my physique but it hasn't gotten rid of all the pain and so to get rid of all the pain. I might have to go all the way. There knows very variables. Like what were you also eating in conjunction with a meat based Diet. Yeah just some like nuts and seeds here and there some you know some things things like some MCAT oils m. c. powder adding more of that stuff and still have a little bit of that. Now like I'll have have like one drink a day where I throw in some Mike. I have this like hot chocolate. That mark gave me. That's pretty awesome. It's called ships really get an. It's called fat fat fuel cocoa and it's allowed me to switch over from coughing. I'll usually just get like hot water. Today got coffee but usually I just dump it in hot water as caffeine in it. No no no. It's just basically what's nice about his cocoa MCAT powder grass fed butter powder coconut oil powder and Himalayan seasons. It's awesome like a hot chocolate. It's really good. 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Don't do them. It's not less the less tip for those. That do like certified Piedmontese. They sent me this beef boneless strip line. I don't know if they sent that. Not You shmole. Homeless Strip is basically like it. Sounds gross in some ways. You really doesn't sound growth hates. It's being left in the dark hager's exciting so Beef boneless strip line is basically like I WANNA say it's Ten New York mistake stuck together but it's what they cut New York state's from but it's basically like you can make your own New York Strip steaks from this by basically just the way that you cut it so take giant log. Yeah it's a big giant. It's a slab to giants slab of meat with a big drop of fat on the back. And then you just cut like two or three inch thick steak so you get these big fat stakes like restaurant quality giant steaks. And then you just cook those in my Ninja Foodie Grill which I am not associated with Ninja Foodie or Ninja kitchen gene. Or anything like that but you should be. That is the best way to cook for like a single guy girl. That just wants to cook quick. And if if you WANNA make if you want to be on a carnivore die and you don't have that you're at a disadvantage. Like what is the thing cost one hundred bucks two hundred bucks. But I got it like the first day of World Carnivora Egmont and I have not cooked anything not in that getting all the hacks on this check that out. Actually somebody had danny or deemed the podcast. And I'm like I. I don't know which one it is. Just you know kind of what you said is get whatever you can but yeah I think he had it right with the Ninja. I have so you like that better than the air airframe like it better than air fryer like it better than any of you said no smoke right no smoke well mine smokes up a little bit but yeah that's take my God it's it's basically no smoke But I actually liked to leave some fat in there so mine smokes a little bit but if you clean it out every Time it won't smoke but I actually think take. The food tastes better. When you cook in here like three or four cleaning and it is cast iron like the The the plate that you see on his cast iron and when you leave like the it sounds kind of gross but like your Keating stuff at five hundred degrees and when you heat up all that fat and it gets circulating in the air in there. I think the fruit taste better. If you if you cook it in a couple of times for some reason it traps waivers can you have a cast iron. That seasoned really well it just kind of every time you cook on it. It gets a little bit better better and it's easier to use. You don't have to clean it every single time. It doesn't get that gross and then at the end basically you're left with a bunch of a clump of like solid fat in the bottom and you can kind of just dump that in your garbage rather than dumping down your sank in clogging up your sank in a big thing of fatness. Sadness goes eight new garbage and then you start over. Sounds good. Doesn't use during the two years that you were ninety percent carnivore. You're still in pain. Did you try go in ninety percent carnivore and then mixing veggies never mixed in bed. The only thing I I you know I have no love lost for vegetables. I've never had an issue with their. There's never been an issue with vegetables. Were like the only thing I miss is lettuce. You know. It's like not no lettuce lettuce. I'm saying it's not. Oh he doesn't Miss. I don't miss any vegetables. There's no vegetable that I like enough Except that eggplant. You seem knocked. His coffee got real excited about his face. Reaction this kind of money muddy paws. Hey yes so. We don't miss many many of those vegetables besides eggplant and there's nothing really crave but like fruit. I like fruit. You know I think that's okay And there's a reason why I actually posted yesterday About fifteen eighteen minutes of the Joe Rogan podcast mark and I were on. I thought it was actually really funny. Because he's like yeah. Dr Baker was on here but he didn't have any science. So let me talk to these heads if I get some real science out of them. That's kind of the way that it came off. But he didn't really mean it that way it just like. Hey Dr Baker on here like like. What's your experience with this kind of thing and I think that Talking about fruit during during that podcast we were talking about how will be modified it to like adding some through and the reasons why adding in some work I think mark explained it really. Well is that you can eat a lot of calories in meat really really fast asked right so you can't talk about. You probably can't over eat me. But if you're trying to lose weight and get lean might want to eat a certain amount of me and then maybe fill in the rest with some fruits and vegetables that you like in order to maintain a certain caloric load to not go way over to just be full right mike with less calories and that makes a whole lot of sense and that sort of what we we discussed on the Joe Rogan show however now like I said Poland some of those things I I. I don't think like having the apple here and there is going to like really flare up my arthritis. I don't think I'm that sensitive. I just think that the more I go towards the red meat and water the better I feel and I think that like constantly drilling in on that will be what sort of like gets me to the answer like it might be what I do have to avoid. Wait everything else but I feel like as going toward that I can. I can figure out you know how much of other stuff I can add or not. I have personally never been more strict on this diet than I am. Now especially to last couple of days The first week of World Carnivore Month I had a little bit of vegetables in there was kind of mixed in some recipes and stuff But since that time I've I've gotten rid of all that and I feel better now than I ever have in my whole life. So why do you think it is. That people are trying to refute the fact back that this diet is really powerful than it is really benefiting people like. Why are people trying to be in denial? That because probably because it's so it's so simple right. So if you're a nutritionist. You'RE GONNA hate it into like. I went to school for all these years. Look at guys like lane. Norton goes to school for like eight years years. And then I turn around and say eat water and it works just as good like basically as as like a really involved plan that would take him a long time to formulate as a coach. He needs a coaching tool. So way your food and and and I think he's I think he's amazing action. Think Lane has taught me me more by saying like. Hey this is bullshit and pointing out. What's bullshit in other people's work in either got amazing information even including in my own like on my own instagram? He's commented sometimes. Hey Chris he's always very nice to me he says like Hey Chris you might WanNa go check into this hell say it like that. He won't call me out he's he's very cordial Joel and very cool. I can't wait until he goes on. Joe Rogan coming up in debates. That Game Changers Guy. I'm all for it but I think that like yeah like having some real good information to like to counteract you know but but I think if you're a nutritionist. You're GONNA hate it. If I discovered red meat and Waterman the person gets really lean. They get in shape. They get the best health of their life and all they're doing is eating red meat and watering walking my comment to people like that that would get upset about that is like let let us help those people let us get the hundred pounds off them then then they need to switch over to something like lane. Does I think that like this is not sustainable. For most those people for all the rest of their life so I think it's good to have both it's good to tell people like look we're gonNA knock one hundred pounds off with red meat and water and then we're gonNA switch over to something. That's a little bit more practical that you can kind of handle a little bit better and one thing I want to say about this toasted in terms of protein because a lot of times you'll hear yourself remarks. Protein doesn't doesn't count and that kinda flares people's holes quite a bit. But what do you like. Anecdotal Leo notice when working with bodybuilders. You see a lot of people on that type of Diet what happens. A lot is when they get leaner though. Bill skyrocket their protein. Sometimes I'll take him people's protein like three hundred thousand in twenty grams right at one hundred eighty one hundred ninety pounds and minimum amount of carbs and fat and as the proteins increasing their body. Compositions continue to improve with the increased levels of protein. You'll us like at if you look at that you could say that protein doesn't count. You could say that even though you either calories but it's not affecting their body composition negatively so when we say that just understand that like try eating. Excessive amounts of protein like can berry said try eating excessive amount of protein. And see if you're gonNA get fat like an focus zone protein fat. I would even argue that. It works the other way the more protein the more fat. You'RE GONNA burn because it's Thermo Genyk right you. You're going to burn three quarters of that by you know get mad. But that's it's not three quarters the opposite you burn twenty five percent of it automatically so automatically brings down the only three calories right even if you were to count calories a day it brings it down because of its own thermo genesis and then what else. It doesn't your body when you have over a certain Ramu now is going to be more even more thermal jen but even with steak specifically or like a pork tenderloin or meats like that they take a while to eat so oh because they take a while to eat your hunger hormone at your your You know what you're satiated hormone to is clicking over. It's clicking in by the time time you're done finished finishing it. I've had happened many many times where I'm looking at a piece of meat. Unlike there is no way that this is enough to fill me up. I start to go through it. I'm chomping humping on it and chewing on it especially kind of leaner meats and then next thing you know you're like Shit I actually. I'm totally full until he satisfied Matt meal a previous version of me. That's total bullshit. There's no way but then insieme had me on and two hundred and forty grams of protein at the very end fifty grams of carbs and and fifty grams of fat. I was full all the time and then my progress. It never stopped. If I stayed on that I would have lost too much. Wait my opinion but like I would have been even more shredded like it just works but if you're if you're starving at night a good tip and something that I did when I first got in shape years ago was to eat ten egg whites you know like if you really feel like you're super hungry. I know it's like ten egg whites fuck. They don't have anything on them but I would throw awesome Pico on them and they were so good yeah it was great but then also to after a while I was like like it's kind of a lot of work. It's kind of a chore to eat. Tanay Guede so after a while it was kind of like screwed. I didn't mess with it as much anymore but it helped me immensely when I I switched over to a bodybuilding style years ago when I went out to Hawaii with Dr Baker The guys there Rick and Andrew Shout out to them total fitness USA out in Hawaii in Waikiki Those guys is actually they. They both have kids and what they told me was really interesting to have like these cooked up Burger patties in the refrigerator and kind of have at all times and what would they and they have their children eating. Just they're eating right and so they tell the kids if you open refrigerator and you don't want one of those patties. You're not hungry. That's it's fake like fake hunger but if you open it up and you're hungry enough to eat that patty throw it in a microwave and eat that and that's what you get great and the kids follow it which which is kind of amazing well. For the most part they follow but They actually follow it. The adults actually fall and I think that's a good plan for an adult to follow his like Maybe only keep these things in your house like a good way to save proof. Your House is not to bring anything into your house but if you do have children you have just just keep that as a thing like if I'm not hungry enough for me I'm not hungry enough for the egg whites like you said that. I'm not really hungry. Yeah once you start tracking set will when I started tracking taking stuff. Egg Whites was like the best thing ever. Oh my gosh. It's just protein. This is incredible but we said earlier about like okay somebody could start doing full carnivore and then and if as needs changed so can the Diet. You guys aren't like super dogmatic about the whole thing and people are always saying. Oh my gosh like all they do is they. They claim claimed. Eat just meat. And they get jacked at steroids. It's this it's that and I'm like who can't the carnivore diet help is they're literally anybody. Well you you gotta look at my results. I was not on steroids for entire year like so now I take testosterone replacement therapy like two hundred milligrams. I talk. I've ever the day I went on it. I announced on instagram. It's like who else does that. No one's like I'm on. TRT by the way like people. Don't talk about it people are always bullshitting in Lyon and what makes me mad is when you come out and you tell the truth then people want to like get you out because of the TRT. Listen I've been on. TRT for ten years. And I've been a fat fuck right like so. What's different now? Is I eat me right and people need to understand that. It's not coming from a source. Marks results people need to see him. China the Jimmy. What he does he goes fucking crazy and people go all like that's because of testosterone and know that stuff helps? It's going to help you for sure. But it's not GonNa make you know you need you need to build up based on on your own but as far as like the the the average person that's not that doesn't care about their fitness period. It's this is there anybody that this diet will not help it will. It'll help everybody there are there are some rare cases of people people that have been bit by some weird tech yet the lone star tick. We'll give you a red meat allergy. Which I'm trying to seriously avoid that tick by for life this like I don't know we don't know we're not sure but this is like stuff? That's the only people that we've we've actually heard that have have any sort of aversion to read me. It's like less than one percent of the people now. There's also some everybody lies about it. There's some people that do struggle struggle to eat like greater amounts of fat and that also might be an adjustment period like that might take some time but While we real simple solve that is have leaner meat. Piedmontese right exactly where to eat like if you have a problem with Red Meat Piedmontese. It'd be a great choice or just if you can't afford Piedmontese choosing some Sirloin cuts which are cheaper versions of the good cuts as right. A lot of people know that and there are still great. A lot of people go in though by a rabbi. But they could buy like a Sirloin and it and it's almost as good you know so it's like you've got to get to know your meets a little bit how to cook too because if you don't know how to cook and you're buying leaner mistakes not gonNa Taste Great Got New York Strip. He got a flat iron steak. You have I around stake. I mean these are all within most people's price ice ranges and and they they taste good and especially in New York Strip is great you just if you want you just chop that chunk of fat often. It's very very you know one of the things I've been trying to track down for. You is a name and had a client actually trying to track the guy down and see if we can get him on your podcast so Dr Name and had a client who was homeless. Who went to the ninety nine cents store and bought a frying pan for dollar? You know like six eggs for a dollar and a thing of butter for like a dollar and would make eggs out in his homeless shelter and make eggs every once in a while I could afford some ground beef. And he gets ground beef and he did a carnivore diet and he lost like one hundred pounds like live on the streets I think or pretty close is to which is pretty amazing and it was a somebody doctor name and was like helping for free or whatever so the the number one or one of the main things that I see all the comments and everything is of course. Your cholesterol is going to go through the roof. You'RE GONNA die you're going to have a heart attack your LDL's your Blah Blah Blah. What the hell do we actually? No I'm begging for my cholesterol. Go through the ruth that means. I'm GONNA live longer. According to the stats that we have received people to hire cholesterol's living longer. We see no evidence. Okay that does anything to affect mortality like it's just not associated you have high. LDL cholesterol high triglycerides. You're in trouble However ever people in a carnivore diet? We'll have highly L. but they'll have a very low triglycerides usually and so you know for the most part. I don't see cholesterol ever being a problem for anybody on this diet unless they have you know. Obviously there's medical conditions and I don't know about. I'm not a doctor. I'm a filmmaker and say that all the time I don't have the evidence minutes here but like as far as normal people go if you're not sick if you're sick yet go look if you have some sort of illness and sickness that you gotTa Take Care Of. You should be going the doctor anyway however if you wanted to convert over this diet if you can eat a like here's what I don't understand if you can eat a steak with vegetables and bread and all this other stuff why why is it such a big fucking deal to pull that out the other stuff out and then all of a sudden at stake is deadly. It just doesn't make any sense. Like people have this stuff in their diet like they have in and out in their diet now but you pull away the bond the fries and then you're going to die. Excuse me that that doesn't make any sense. But that's what people are doing. People are saying out. There just doesn't make sense all right so what I want to know from you right now like right. Now you're seeing the best you other have. What is it exactly that you're like what is it that you're eating? What is it that you're staying away from the now after World Carnival month ends? Is there anything you're going to bring back. Purposefully are you just GonNa tape those things. I was just sheeting a lot like and not cheating badly just like a lot like I hate to say this because their their friends and their sponsors but like all these little Kito snacks and kito bars and things that I was eating one good for me for other people trying to lose excessive amounts of way they might be good for them. He's not too harmful at the start if he needs something to look forward to when I can ask your fiends as you go on I think even I don't know even like like later down the road. If I'm feeling really good to have a bar here near is not going to be such a crazy problem but my my problem is also within myself is like if I have a box of bars all eat them all in a day. So you're eating a lot at once. We'll have something and it tastes good and it's Kito and it's not me and I've been and eating meat for three months on end. Have a box of twelve birthday cake. Perfect Kito bars smash them. You know what I mean. There's just no way kind of you're flirting thing with disaster. However that's me you know a lot of people that can buy box twelve and they could eat one every other day for like twenty four for a month a month? A box bars will never last me a month if they last month. Then maybe you can have them. Maybe they're thorough K.. For you we like one every other day you he added in your calories and your fine for me. I'll eat them all at once. It's like what you said on the previous podcast or you know. Watch porn. No we have in our house. We have chalk zero which is A low carbohydrate chocolate and it's got like almonds and salt in it and chased amazing it's a different flavors and stuff we have. We have a good amount of the stuff and I I really I like it a lot. I've not eating at currently But I noticed that like you want to try to buy stuff that you're not gonNA overeat on so this is like dark chocolate it It doesn't taste like a hershey bar like if I had a hershey. She bought the house I would overeat Hershey bar good enough to get it. Tastes good enough to give you a little bit of flavor and then we've had them in the house for for several weeks and they haven't really gone anywhere like Andy will eat some and she'll take a piece of a small piece of it and she'll have to like two little bites on how she does it but she has that discipline. I don't have that discipline a lot of times with most things. It just triggers kind of the wrong thing in me at triggers further eating. Yeah Your kids have that discipline to like. I went to the movies with J.. And he just got like a small he got a soda and a Pretzel But he got a small soda and a Pretzel. And that's not even that bad. I would've like I'd said Jake get whatever you want. You can go nuts like thom. Mayne go my kids are really good about I was like. Oh Wow he got a pretzel. You've got some mustard with it. Whatever that was that it was like wow okay let my kids know about intermittent fasting and stuff to like? I would have bought three bags of candy the other day. I asked Jake if you want if he wanted me to make him something or if he wanted to stop at starbucks on his way to school or McDonald's or whatever he's like Nam doing some intermittent fasting. I was like. Oh Dude that's amazing. And can he. He talks about a lot of time. He talks about like wanting to kind of save up for dinner. He's like now is like we're GonNa Makunike so he's like why would I eat like cheese. It's right now. Sustainable really doesn't make any sense. Like eight more Makoni. Yeah one of my favorite terms that we've learned on the PODCAST is mouth pleasure. I hear now yeah I know I hear a lot of people say like they get tired of chewing. They get tired of just focusing on the one thing. Get a tchendo. How many times I gotta say it on this podcast Shindo dot com slash Encima Guinea Ryan Young Twenty five or twenty five percent off your Tchendo? Free Shipping Aka No no no. She'll get everything off her Neva or that way do. Do you have any tips tricks hacks on trying to get like something crunchy in the Diet on trying to get something constantly in the diversion. Yeah carnivores snacks. If somebody you want something crunchy those chips that are made out of meat. Carnivores snacks while. There's also like cheats lerone also. Yeah like Porn Ryan's and things like that Something something interesting. That mark has in his cabinet says tell the whole audience reveal this he's got this Pork rind powder. Basically that you can use like if you want to cook a chicken breast chicken breast egg pork rind powder and that'll make the chicken like chicken Parmigiana feel to it but not uh not all bunch of bread crumbs right. So there's there are things that you can do You could put that on a state you can keep things like that so if you want things that are crunchy but carnivores snacks knacks are great. Because they're like they're little like you know pork and beef chips. They're like they're they're kind of expensive because they're really good quality not commercially available able yet though. Either I think you can get on there. I don't think I don't think he's selling any of them yet. Sign up form can sign up to learn about when there's also the there's also also that the chicken skins which I know. Yeah so the first batch of chickens skins that came out they were using canola oil and I guess they're switching being over to use a few companies making stuff now. Yeah you got to kind of look like I think marks right like the Pork rinds kind of kind of where. It's out right now for crunchy stop. That's kind of about it and they're not that Grohl so I really like them that much. I don't. I don't have any crunchy stuff in my diet because I've decided that all the stuff that's really crunchy. She isn't really that worth Marquesa like. We're not designed to eat crunchy stuff all day long. So you know it depends on what you define as crunchy. I think crunch bench using looking for like a potato chip or some sort of Tortilla chip type of Pop. You know from the thing that you're eating But things that are crunchy and have a pop to him to our fruit and vegetables. So like if you really want stuff like that you know eat a fucking cucumber. You know. Put some salt on a cucumber and then in addition to that just Like learning to see her and like like slightly overcook or not overcooked. But like have a high temperature on some me e or some bacon can give you something Kinda crispy. It's not the same as eating like a chip but I think the biggest junk food people make when they cut me is a never. They don't warm up properly. You know just like left him but when you get your here all the way to the you know when you when you want a steak you gotta assume that things like super hot so I think a lot of people miss the boat on store their thing in a pan and just try to cook it and it comes out crappy but if you want that Nice sear you gotta get that Japan really really hot and let it sit on there for a little while you know real quick I wanna I wanna go to that snacking that we're talking about because you mentioned those chicken skins. I think we need to kind of switch the way we look at snacks carnivores snacks. I know they're not out yet. I think they're cool because they're good but they're not so good that you're gonNA like right right. He four bags right but those chicken skins broom like they. They're the flavor of them and whatever so good texture everything everything. I ate multiple bags so I think we need to like instead of looking at snacks to be Rou- that's something super pleasure chicken skins. I brought him. Yes yeah because I have more now auto body. I'm not even GonNa mess with those because I know that. Yeah they're cool and they fit in the Diet but they're too good. I can't I can't take it home. I think snacks need to be you. I need to look at them as okay. They're they're kind of good but I'm probably got many of these saints snacks navy kind of Shitty. They need to be good but yeah they need to be Kinda shitting. Like if you're like me sure you while giving his amply carnivore. Snacks are really good. They have like a rabbi one. But it's it's grass-fed rabbi and so it has that slightly slightly fishy taste that I don't like and if if it was grain fed steak Eva's grain finish steak. I probably would probably would eat way too many of them then they it'd be like okay now. It's too good like in South Africa. They have the Biltong Jerky if you've ever had like legitimate. Biltong Jerky is good. It is amazing. But you're it's going to be hard to eat a crazy amount at once when you have American beef Jerky it's cool. It's good but it's like they A. There's so much to it that you can. You can legit over eat a lot of soya and they put a lot of sugar in it and these companies are working just as hard as early as the big food companies are. They're trying to sell product you know. They're trying to make stuff taste. He's good in the case of the carnivore snack. There's only like I think two ingredients. It's like meeting salt right. Yeah it's always just meat salt so they have pork Loin to have like I I have round they have whereby and one other when I think that I liked it because when I try a little bit of it I think he gave me a little bit. This is good but it's like it wasn't so good where I could see myself just in the corner wanting it for non-smoking about carnivore snacks. You'll take like so. They're literally just really thin in sliced pieces of steak like really thin and their fried in a way that makes them crispy but you could end. They're pretty big 'cause they're like the size of the stake right so like you could pull pull one. She out and for some reason that satiated enough like you don't need more than one so like you're saying is like you would think you'd sit there and munch on the bag in within the bag. It's because of the hydrated like the way it's cooked in the bag. There's about three three pound steak or something like that like it's insane amounts stake in one bag crush down nothing so when you eat it in in its dried form. I guess it's like the fat and everything's more highly concentrated. You think beef Jerky is okay on Carnivore Diet. Most beef Jerky has a lot of sugar in it and most beef jerky has a lot of soil. So if you can find ones that are soy zoe. Free sugar free kind of thing. I would go for it. I just think it's hard to make Mekdad last forever. Yeah I would any any pooping problems like any diarrhea in N.. Hershey squirts or anything like that now. The only time I ever have that is when I eat things other than me when I eat things that are off the Diet and also I think some some people might encounter that when I start this for a couple of weeks we heard I joe Rogan. Having blowouts and things that a lot of times that's just like electrolyte electrolyte balanced people need to remember. It's what you're getting rid of not what you're getting onto. Let's not what you're getting. It's not what you're eating now right like if you went back. Leonard said probably three days before Joe Rogan started the kind of guy I bet she had a meal that was steak with vegetables and and maybe a starchy Archie Carr Bright. What's the difference? He just pulled the things out with a now. He's shitting his brains because he's gotten rid of me getting rid of getting rid of all that stuff and his stomach is in your your microbiomes changing over and that's GonNa take some time and it's GonNa take some some consistency to get it. They're also somebody might be adding one hundred or two hundred grams of fat to their diet and they may have never eaten that way before you know Huge wore on carbs opponent and a longtime carnivores John Anderson Anderson who routinely eats like five to seven pounds of meat every single days absolute beast. You Know He. He ate like something like five hundred grams of protein. A day or something like that and a lot of people Read that article that we hadn't power magazine years ago and they were like I want to try this and I got a lot the messages about it and that's great. They want to try it but man if you try to. All the sudden have five hundred grams of protein and three hundred grams of fat day. Never done anything like that for four years going to be on the toilet constantly and you're not gonNa feel great so you gotta you gotTa Kinda work your way into these things. How about your energy levels all throughout the day when I think that's a funny one hour right like We all know we all know this. Everybody knows when you eat food. It gives you energy and people lack lack energy. What what does it mean? They lack food. Eat more food. You have more energy. It's that easy. It's that simple so people are like I'm not I don't have I'm on a Carnivore Diet Roy. I don't have any energy. How much fat did you eat? That's what the energy comes from. You get more get double the amount of energy from the fat than you do from the carbohydrates so like the more fat. It may take longer. You might not be fat adopted that you might not be able to use it yet but you just keep eating. So it's like when you're worn down down and you're tired and you're not getting energy you need to produce more energy and the only way to do that as eating more food you know and another way to do it through fasting if you fast asked and you allow yourself some time with fasting might feel like Shit and beginning but you have a lot of on your body that you need to get rid of and you can probably just look down at your gut and be like Yep I got plenty of energy right there and I'm just GonNa fast and I'M GONNA allow my body to do what it should be doing naturally if you don't have energies because your body is not being efficient and it was not being efficient like you said we have to. We have to move towards that and sometimes moving towards being efficient is not comfortable and we have to deal with it until we get comfortable you know and it'll get thanks so now say so. Is that why you guys think like some of the reports on people that have joined World Carnival month. They're everyone's experiences so all over the place. I have tons of energy. I can't sleep. I have no energy I can't do. I can't stop. pooping is it just because of what they came Often or is it. Just everybody's different. It's hard to make a generalization right like what's going on and it's hard to make so many people lie like so many people might have a steak or two and then like what the hell so that eating like we don't know I mean honestly like I don't I don't trust people's own self reporting like what they're doing Dan how they feel and all like you can't take with this one guy. got a stomach ache so maybe we should all abandon this. Let's you know it's hard because we don't have studies ladies. We don't have people locked in metabolic words. We can't see what they're really eating. But I think I get this all the time with them so like when I was doing to create a movie you have a thousand people people that have all these crazy reactions. PRATIM right that we're like all over the board but they'd be one offs like you'd hear it one time like that's not good enough to be side effects in that doesn't count. And so what are we experiencing the carnivore community. A lot of the same stuff. We have a lot of people that doubt the carnivore diet so they try it with the intention of I'm GonNa in a show you how this doesn't work and so right away they're starting you know with a negative attitude trying to figure out why it won't work for them and then there may be like maybe maybe they don't have enough energy. Maybe they don't have enough. You know whatever and I think that a lot of that comes from the bias of like I'm going to show you that doesn't work for me. And then they can just get on the Internet and say I'm fat because Carnivore didn't work on that note of energy real quick. Do you find that a lot of people in the car were community are also implementing fasting. What they're doing? I'm seeing a trend with that right. A lot of people are incorporating. I encourage people to Dr Baker does too. I think you know your pick one dietary intervention or another in my opinion. But if you're trying to you're an athlete it's a little bit different. I might say for somebody like you that if you were trying to like get really lean. Doodoo Jujitsu maybe in a lower weight class. And you're like really pushing it. Maybe that'd be. It may be a different a different protocol for you. Maybe you'd incorporate intermittent fasting end carnivore and I've I've not intermittent fasting and carnivore. And I've actually seen I don't think it matters. I feel better when I don't restrict myself. Yeah I just feel like I can have a stake. Look at midnight like cool to me mentally. That frees me up a little bit makes me feel a little bit better. Because you're already being restrictive enough with just eating meat that I don't know that you need to restrict the time yet. You know unless you're really gunning for something. What I wanted to get was what I have seen and a lot of comments about this? There's when people do carnivores some people will do fasting to with it. Not even that. I suggested that I see that. But what a lot of people have what. A lot of happens with a lot. A lot of people is that they will start hounding caffeine because of their faster so throughout their day. They'll start drink much more caffeine than usually used to drinking and then that'll mess up when they go to sleep at night they don't feel as rest than the feel a lack of energy the next day and that continues to snowball into every single day. And that's why I try to say. Don't don't try to a fast because like you might in the beginning like you could fast once you get used to live but in the beginning you might consume more caffeine in order to make up for you later in the day. Yeah consume other things in coffee as a pretty long half-life couple of our don't want to be having pre-workout of caffeine in the evening fucked up. Yeah it'll always always creep in asleep unless you know I think Limiting caffeine is a huge deal for a lot of people. I think we are way too. hyped up on it and everybody complains that they don't get good sleep but if if they were cut their caffeine they would get good sleep. People don't understand. Alternate Warrior had the greatest ever when he said you wake up in the morning. And you have to have Hoffy. You just fucking slept for eight hours you know and I think that's amazing like to to really think about that. You just slept for eight hours and you can't do anything without your coffee. How you saw you really think about those things I think about that stuff? It'll be like I'm skipping coffee today. Not Enough people are embracing you know having a schedule you know trying to wake up a similar time every day. It's real easy on the weekend. Say I'M GONNA stay up till midnight and I'm it just wake up kind of whenever In the morning but there are no days off. You don't get any days off. I mean if you want results and you want progress and you WanNa be a heading in the right direction all the time if you don't mind being sidetracked and having some your goals You know derailed for a little bit then Buchan. Don't listen to me but I think it's it's really valuable that you know when you're going to go to sleep you know when you're GonNa wake up you know when you're going to eat at least some of these things it doesn't have to. It'd be a crazy routine to not be super strict but I think it's important that you just have an idea I try to wake up at four. AM every day. Sometimes it's four sometimes three thirty sometimes. It's four thirty every once in a while it might be if I'm on vacation or something. It might be more like six so that's where it might have some deviation and my whole schedules a tiny different for a little while but what happens I think a lot of people they they they kind of give themselves too much slack. And they're up an hour or two later on the weekend and then in a waking up an hour later then they try to get back into their schedule. And that's why people like I don't do Mondays and don't do Mondays is because they don't have the discipline to understand that all the days are connected and all the food that you eat is connected and your schedule is very important. Like I don't want to be on on a schedule as Ron Peres pointed out to us like he's like I don't like doing that. Kid I don't like You know having a set schedule but I- respond really well to everyone responds respond really well to organization and having some sort of schedule. That's why people are so tired all the time because they're not not trying to do a similar thing everyday around around the same time every day I find like too much time on your hands. You have too many. There's too many decisions to make. I could do this and I could be. That is a bad place to be. Actually a a lot of people would envy that. I wish I could just pick and choose what I wanted to do. But when you can pick and choose what you WANNA do. oftentimes people choose. Nothing actually. Don't accomplish anything so it's like you have to have goals funny at that things in front of you that you need to get done otherwise you can just sit there all day and do nothing. We have this conversation. The last episode Bat Boredom for a lot of people including myself is GonNa just leave. You don't have anything to do or anything sets will lead you to trust me out like that. That is one of the things one of the reasons. Why on a lot of things? Because when I get bored my mind will still go to. I'm Kinda hungry. It's it happens to all of us. Do you always just eat when you're hungry and eat until you're full kind of well right now. Yeah I've put that in practice before I would be like well it's only nine. Am and I'm hungry. So maybe I should Have a coffee right like you said and fast it out for a while. But why like if I'm hungry I should eat right. So that's what I've I've just changed into like okay. Well now I'm hungry now I'll eat. Is that the easiest way to kind of ease into this is just keep eating till you're full. I think so. You know I've actually found so what I came out and said the other day on instagram. Because I actually feel this way I feel like you can develop this ordered eating on this and I feel like I just wasn't eating enough breath so I don't know if my eating was necessarily disordered but in a way that like I was trying to get lean and I would say you know I was trying to follow kind of what Marx while I'm wanting to eat twice a day but he's twice a day because he fell on that right like it happened and that's what does usually happen. And if I just it's funny if I yeah I do eat as much meat as I possibly. Can I kind of fall into that too where you actually only twice a day but maybe you're eating more more amount so I was eating twice a day but I was eating twice a day like what I would have won steak so it'd be like okay. I'm having sixty grams of protein. Now it'll be piemontese stake. There wouldn't be much fat in it and then my second meal I would maybe load up with more fat than normal. Or maybe I'd have like a steak and Akito brick or something along those lines and I just wasn't eating enough calories if you add up my calories. I was probably a deficit all the time. But then mark and I were squatting 4:05 for wraps you get killed. You know and I was really really so what was worse of all was that I think I was just put paint myself corner lifting trying to keep up with mark and trying to keep up with what he's doing because mark knows like when we go heavy in the gym. I don't really back down. I'm like no let's keep going. You know for some stupid reason but that's those stupid. I've been reasons affect me and make me put me in pain a lot. You know so when I tell mark well man everything hurts every day. You gotTa Calm Down Dude. You're you know you're gone. I'm kinda crazy in the in the gym. You could do less weight. You could do less wraps and I'm starting to learn that you know sometimes you have to Take advice from your little brother and learn learned going nuts. You know. I think back to fasting. Would I always recommend for everybody on any diet that they ever do is in the beginning. Ashtrays have at it. Just get used to the foods but you need to get used to the foods for a good two weeks and that's actually really difficult go for people and people just. They tend to live themselves a lot. And then we know a lot about that because we lie to ourselves a lot and we will sit here and analyze like. Hey what's the the deal. How are you eating? And what are you doing and then one of US might say. I'm having a little trouble with this or that and it's like well. Hey maybe it's the you know four pounds a heavy cream cream that you're born here coffee every day and you start to you. Start to kind of analyze it. Look at it and you start to understand. Like I'm just Kinda full of Shit I need to actually eat what I'm supposed host to be eating. So whether you're a carnivore diet or the vertical Diet lead doesn't matter what it is that you're on. Can you actually set yourself up to eat. The foods that are that are on on this particular plan. And then how do you set your life up so that you can make sure that you're able able to eat those foods and if you can't do it for two weeks which I would say probably ninety percent of people can't can't follow anything for two weeks which is which is insane but it's very true and it's been very hard for me in the past two. I've I've built up this Willpower I built up this discipline to be able to do this. It's taken decades literally taken decades for me to be able to Train every day for me to be able to start running for me to be able to to get on Carnivore Diet for me to do a bodybuilding show like all his stuff. It took a really long time to build it into my system and now it's ingrained and now I have good discipline with at this stuff but for average person it's like just yet used to the food and eat as much of it as you want. Eat as much of of it as you can stuff down a bunch of potatoes stuffed down a bunch of steak. It's these are not going to be the things that are going to keep you fat. These are things that once you get it once you get used to the foods. It's going to be so much easier to cut back on the overall amount if that is indeed a problem still thing thing. Is that if you were to try that and again like I have nothing against people or just utilizing county recounting your mackerels but when you look could a lot of flexible dieting if you were to be very flexible if you're eating that rule wouldn't be able to apply what you just said if you're like giving yourself a lot of pasta a lot of highly highly refined foods. You can't just have food there. You have to count that food because you will end up naturally over that food is they're easy to overeat but you can't Over eat meat and potatoes depending on how you prepare it. You can't over eat real food. It's very difficult to do that. Which is why what he's saying right now just makes so much sense? Yeah I think I even think something like if somebody has problems with energy in our athletic I've been adding white. Potatoes in with me is a great. Yeah because a white potato is D- most say sheeting thing on the planet. It's got a ton of potassium in it. It's really good for you. So if you were an athlete and you're like you know what I want. WanNa try this carnivore thing but like. I'm afraid that my gypsy is going to fail. Well look go have a after you have steak and a potato they'll taste so frigging good and that's your that's your carbs for the day and then you go back to stay in the morning news. I think that would sustain somebody For for the most part you know depends on. Maybe how much how much they rolling how much they're doing. Maybe they need to potatoes. Bruno's your big dude. Maybe maybe that's the right amount who knows house but you can kind of figure it out with. I think steak and potatoes. You're never going to really put on fat right. It's going to be hard. It's going to have to be unless you're taking those potatoes Saito's making French fries and vitamin oil and sour cream on them and everything could be ways. You could bombard that but I mean maybe just like a white potato with with a little bit of butter what are a little bit of oil on it or something like that to make. Yeah you'll be stuff every every time we do a an episode when we're talking about about specifically about the Carnivore Diet. We'll get messages coming in from people are saying like I'm really interested in trying the Diet. Where do I start and I usually always giggle? Like how do I get started. And I'm telling my fiance I'm like you know it's crazy. How many questions we get about like? Where do I start? It's like well it's called the carnivore diet so you eat a lot of meat. And then she's like war all it's funny to you guys talk about it so much but for the majority of people like this sounds crazy and that yeah they want to know. Can I have chicken. Can I do this this. Can I do that. So where can somebody just start from. Scratch like from Ground Zero where to somebody start. Start by just like what you said start by eating meat and eggs and then think of think of the meat egg combinations that you like not meat and eggs together necessarily think about the egg combinations that you like whether it'd be Omelets Sir over easy or sunny side up or however you like your eggs like think about some of that and then how you gonNA cooperate that. Do you like hard boiled eggs if you do. Then that's a great addition. How do you like your stakes prepared? And what kind of stakes do you WANNA get. And what type of hamburger meat you WANNA get and really getting started as simple well as you know making the decision to go to the grocery store or not even the grocery store go to a butcher shop. So that way you're not negatively influenced by all the bullshit the at a grocery store go to a butcher shop. Get a bunch of me and start getting ready. You need a meat. You might need some Butter eggs and I don't know why people would even right in a question like that. Like where do I I would I would just google. It never ask that question for anything Eh. Ever ever been weak enough to ask that question. I think you need to start. Googling Shit. People are so weak that they can't even get out out of their own way. You can Google fucking anything. And that's what drives me crazy. People will say what foods can I eat on a kind of diet that Google it. My wife gets easy. My wife gets pissed. She's like why in the fuck are you answering these people's questions. Exactly keep coming. She goes these people are pathetic. Ah They won't research their own ship. She's like that is a question that they can google or youtube in two seconds. I was like I know they want to want the interaction. A lot of times is but sometimes it is really. They're just giving you work to do. Yeah motherfucker answered this question. Nine zillion times on. It's on my podcasts. On my youtube channel. It's every there's not one original question anymore that I answer. They're all like I've laid out all this information. It's all on the Internet. Dr Shawn Bakers answered practically every single question on his youtube. Follow him. Yeah follow these people. I put it up every day. Post like hey follow Sean. Baker gotomeeting DOT COM. I put out so much information about getting people to the places that that they need to be that it should be simple to start out on a carnivore. Diet should be easy stop. Making excuses is in like nobody coached me. Nobody told me like no. It's Paul there if you follow like just on instagram. Follow the pictures. What is Chris Eating? What is mark eating? What is Dr Baker eating? What are all these people hashtag carnivore? What does it same Dan? What's out there? And all that and then people go. What do I believe? Believe the guys that are who are the people that have what you want. If Mark Bell has the physique that you want follow Marc Bell Sean Baker as physique you want and you're into like you know endurance sports and rowing. Maybe follow Sean on Baker. If there's going to be somebody out there for you to follow if you're a woman and you're you're trying to lose weight. There's people like Dr Gabrielle. Lyon who are just excellent with this kind of information like absolutely the best person you could probably listen to a woman because she gets it and she's a mom. I I think a lot of times people WANNA ask these questions because they're just very hesitant like is this okay for a female to do you really like no. It's it's great for all like there's it's not a difference so looking for a way out. Yeah I mean we had to hunt food. We had to gather food. I mean that's just a human evolution. Women and children weren't exempt from her. You're not to not to yell at the fans and be like you're all done for asking dumb questions but like I think I think if you get yourself smarter order like if you think of like we always say like before you ask something. Is it necessary. Is it necessary for me to ask. Mark Bell this and take his time From this or could I google and could I come at Mark Bell with a better question than how do I get started. You know what I mean I. It's really not use mark for a better had our resource. It's so hard because you see these questions that come in and you're like okay. This guy. He's so lazy that he won't Google it therefore if we give them the information what is it GonNa do absolutely nothing. Because he's not motivated enough to even fucking search for it. If you guys look the Carnivores Chef Hoti D'Amato. He's our friend. He's become a friend now then like this is how cool it is. He's become a buddy you know. I've had them over my house. Cook them a big steak the other day and the way that he got there was I never even even met the guy I didn't even know he existed until he lost one hundred ninety one pounds following US mark and I had no idea I mean he was putting you know he was asking question on our instagram and stuff. But it's just another guy and I'm just answering them and he's like you've always answering all my questions. I lost one hundred ninety pounds and not stops me dead in my tracks going wait and you live in Sacramento. Why are you not in our Jim? I was always afraid to walk into a gym. 'cause I've always been fat guy. Good come into our gym. We love you get over here. And he's become a friend but but he became a friend because he did all the work and it makes you like them so much better because he did the work and he did it and he just kept his mouth shut and his head down and just did all the work and then he came to us instead. He hasn't had a cheap. He can't remember the last time he had a cheat meal. said he thinks it's like two or three years ago. Look so good about him. Is that like he stricter than I am and now he inspires me so now on quantum one month. I'm like Manna Hotter. You son of a bitch. How do you do it like you're so strict? It's just because he's put his mind to it and he said you know what I weighed. Four hundred pounds. And I'M GONNA I'M GONNA keep my brain in this because that's how I got out there. And that's why I brought up the question because for every thousand people that are not GonNa utilize what we say. There might be one Hoti. Yeah so that's why I love it. I love guiding people to the right information but I would rather guide them to the right information with things that are a little bit more advanced like that. They're they're already into it they already know. It's so simple red meat and water and it's like okay. They they've done it for a couple of weeks what what's beyond this. What else can I do? You know that kind of thing and I may take a little bit to this but when I look at like when I hear those kind of questions I can remember what it was like to be that clueless about anything as far as dining riding is concerned so in defense of that like yeah you can google it. I get it. It's right there but to someone who's not used to diet culture. That information seems was like overwhelming all these different types of meats. All these things you need to get out of your diet like it just got me and I get it. The answer's simple us but dude I remember what do not understand anything as far as conservative so at least we can still be here to answer these. How did you learn it did you? Did you send a message. Mike o'hearn and say how do I get like you. When I started like really try to honestly I act like when I w nutrition and stuff? I asked Alberto Burto Nunez I was like. What did you read to learn what you know because I knew if I can get better question? That's a way different question than how do I get started. Did I know I know you get your information from their great. You have good information. I yeah that's what you asked him but at that point like wasn't getting started but like these these are people that fitness isn't their life row life for US fitness culture. That's like we're trying to delve in deeper to understand why things work. The way they work some people like the Carnivore Carnivore. Diet is not going to be the thing that they're talk about daily. It's just going to be an out onto their life so they need to make it as simple as possible. which will you are making it? A simple as possible for them to put in and I think they're also Perhaps searching for us to say something different I think they're in search of like something that they think we're going to say almost most like they're like. Oh yeah this is GonNa be so easy like you're just going to do it this way and it turns out like the answer's always hard work. The answer's always dedication. The answer's always always. When can I have a cheap meal? You can't have won. The answers are always and my answers have gotten a lot tougher lately like especially during World Carnival. I used to be kind of a pushover. Where am I just kind of eat more meat and you'll get there but I'm realizing myself that the more I go straight meat and water like I feel the best so now I'm I'm just telling people like look? Yeah you can do that. But that's not that's not what this is. That's not what we're doing and just say it like that now. You can do that that that might eight work and you'll lose some weight and you'll get you can do the ninety percent carnivore diet. Works pretty good like it. Got Me all my results. It worked pretty good but if you want to work great. Let's just dive liven. Let's just say no to things. Let's just do a little bit of sacrifice because a little bit of sacrifice can lead us to a great victory. You had mentioned that you were kind of under eating eating as far as like when you were fast and whatnot are there any other pitfalls that you see people making when it comes to the Carnivore Diet. I think you know not really I mean I think under eating is going to be the main thing I think. That's that's probably the main issue that most people experience and I do see a lot of people Not really keeping their electrolyte balance. Good I feel like people have digestive issues like in in the beginning and I don't know that that can solely be fixed with just electrolytes seems to help a lot of people but I don't know if that can make solely exit. I aw I think sometimes things just take time so those are really really only only only mistakes. I see the big mistake. I see. I wouldn't say mistake. It's just a thing. Mark was talking about before cheese is an OPIOID. It's addictive you eat cheese until you die if you if somebody lets you you know and so I mean I don't know I. It is rare rare that I come across somebody that doesn't like cheese and after a Vegan. They're eating that achieve nut cheese which is eat gross. But I'll eat the cheese made out of nuts. 'cause like everybody kind of likes that flavor. Not that nut. Cheese is not an obviously have really sounds gross. My nut cheese and have opioids in it. But but that's the thing is people get a lot of that after Jitsu if you don't shower lots the cheese cheese butter baseball. Not Nacho cheese. We'll Rogan was talking about not butter the other day. Being like the grossest name come up with a better name because he was talking about F. bombs it's this is nut butter and gusting. Oh it was. Method are not method. Man What's Rizza Reservoir and Rogan's like it's just not buttered away. Yeah I don't know what the deal is with a lot of conscious rappers like especially older ones like Vegan. I don't know where it comes from players to. Yeah yeah the the Tang clan he just says. Hey nothin' Cassidi for me to live. Yeah he's die for me to eat and he he trains and stuff like that so it's like whatever he's he's made it work for him and he's figured figured out you know we don't know how healthy and strong is knows the ethical reasons they make sense but Amazon jungle kill other animals so we just just kill some of those animals but we don't should whatever ethical arguments you know. It's hard to argue with argue. Yeah Hey you don't think it's right. Cool don't eat. It don't find I'm good doesn't live forever though no matter what you eat now now and it's not gonNa make a dent in anything so because the general like you'll never get the whole population to go Vegan. People are too smart for that like nine. I know I know I need me A. I don't know how people are way too smart for that. What did you eat today? Eat anything today. Just had a coffee this morning but I got my I shipment in from Piedmont right before you so I stopped the freezer might bearded what sway from me. You're getting a shipment yet. It's coming soon man. If you guys get a shipment because I I'm the guy do you guys. Have you ever seen that gorilla. I'm the I'm the guy got all these ropes in I was the first one to contact. Type them so you'd be right. I'm the guy who got over here. I got them over delicious. Honestly it was this easy and this is what people don't realize. I think I do a pretty good service. A helping people out and helping people get straightened on their diet. So so I was talking to the guys from Piedmont. I said you know what I love your beef. This is way better than everything else. And they're like yeah we'll send you a bunch of they sent me a bunch I post about it a bunch and it just came to an agreement with them saying look maybe we can work something out here and I didn't want to take money from them because I feel like I don't like I'm not making money off other the people trying to push a diet or doing anything like that and I didn't WanNa make it like that like Oh. This is a way that I can make money so I just said. Why don't you guys like hook me up with me? It took you up with posts and it's that simple. It's a handshake agreement. But I think that's awesome and I think that like other people out there that are building up their followings and doing I think that they should be looking at opportunities like this look look for opportunities for people you know the for people to support you in my opinion Piemontese doing a great service to me by helping me on expensive. I don't WANNA I don't WanNa pay for it if I don't have to put out some simple information on product it's really really good and really gonNA help really no matter what I have no problem with it. It's awesome so let me ask you this real quick as far as you're eating substance concerned. How often do you find yourself eating each day? Because he said he don't restrict strict anything anymore in terms of the Times. We so how many times you eating there the day so yesterday was really strange. I took mark son Jake to go see a movie parasite right which is amazing. It earns every bit of the ninety nine percent on rotten tomatoes. I've never I've never seen a film that was like a foreign film film. I thought I was but I was like. Oh my God this is insane beyond not. I fasted pretty much all day and I was starving starving when I got to the movie. But you know what I'm not gonNA eat. Obviously there's nothing that I can relate I just I I got a diet coke and just kind of facet through the movie. I went home and I smashed to full rib is and let's go. Piedmontese whereby sixty grams of fat got probably a hundred and fifty grams of protein. But I ate them out in one meal at the end of the day and I actually felt great felt. I don't really get out of coffee in the morning dot at night and that's kind of all eight yesterday. Normally normally I was eating throughout the day. It just so happened happened that I was busy yesterday and just ended up stuck places where I couldn't eat and I'm really trying to cut down usually like if I'm out all day like in and out or five guys and stuff and I'm just trying a cut that out this month because of the cheese like I can't eat your if you can go in and out and five guys and not get cheese. God blessing but like with cheese. It's just a million times better so I just kind of cut those things out for now. I think like we're talking about it one on days at your busier. You end up just naturally just not eating anything of getting when you get homer. That's that's why I love it like I said the The intermittent fasting comes automatically. I don't try to do. I didn't try to do it. There was no there was a little bit of hunger but then you know sort of like watching a movie got my mind off of it and I wasn't hungry in the morning right after that other smash does to states and I mean it was. It was like so good that I cook. So I got a two pack of these big stakes. I picked one up and I was like well. I don't want to cook the other one to save it for tomorrow tomorrow. And whatever and then halfway eaten through Eaton the first one I was letting it rest and I got like halfway through eating. You know. This isn't going to be enough after I cook the other one and half with your cooking like mark said. Sometimes you misjudge to me and you're like Oh man now full so I was actually kind of full after the first one but I got the second one down you know pretty easily also and I just think like it felt so good actually felt good. It feels amazing stuff yourself and you know eating one or two times a day you end up with a great opportunity for that you end up being able to feast in the end up being able to eat like literally as much as you want. You can just kind of have that you forget. Forget about the beginning of the day you forget that you didn't you know yeah ten seconds and eating your food. You're you're like Holy Shit. Yeah so you guys were doing the ketogenic antic diet before a ton of people and you guys were really really good like you guys did for a real long duration of time In comparison to that do you think the carnivore guy is is better for the masses of people. So I did Kito and I get. I loved Kito. I thought it was great. I fell into the trap of like deathly using a a lot of foods. That are like so-called Kito. I fell into the trap of testing for tones. I was testing for key tones like three times a day. Right this is what's it's ridiculous. I'm tested for key tones three time today last summer more. Stand in Malibu. I was pretty damn lean. I actually weighed about fifteen pounds less than I way now. Now back then I was like one eighty five one ninety And so I was really I was really leading the whole time but I was definitely starving myself and kill all myself and testing key tones. All actually I was doing carnivore at this time but I was still testing tetons and when I stopped kept testing key. Towns when Martin Bodybuilding Show and just blew me away in like how rip D- Was. It just blew me away. I was like he went from being more body fat than me to like way less body fat than me in a matter of weeks and I was just thought like what am I doing. You know. I'm counting all these tetons. It's not making a difference. We just had a bogey looking at a guy just walked in looking at that bike I think anyway the when mark was like super shredded I was like I'm looking at what I'm doing. And he's just kind of like you know countenance calories and doing this that and my Kato and thing is not doing anything to get me any leaner like the more Kitahara doesn't matter. Let me see if I stop testing. And when I stopped testing I started getting leaner and better better because I just started focusing on like what was actually doing because to tell you the truth I would manipulate the shit out of key tones so I would be like. Oh my time to be a little low. I'll take some EXOTI- agents key towns. I would crank them up and I was doing the thing that everybody says Tito since the not do I was chasing key tones and I've made a lot of those mistakes I am you know. I'm a filmmaker not a nutrition expert. So I make a lot of mistakes on a lot of these diets and a lot of these things and I do a lot of things in self experimentation like I know that they say a higher key. Tones doesn't correlate anything but I'm going to prove them wrong you know and I never prove them wrong. It's like everybody's always right But I but I try you know I I was. I was trying to experiment. I think that's a big problem in the Kito Carnivore community now to that. We need to get rid of as I feel like These diets have been around for a long time. I am. They're here to stay. We're not going anywhere and we keep seeing over and over and over people trying to like rename it and make it their own and it's like people stop stop please. It's like it's something that's already here. You didn't invent eaten me like stop it you know and it's like people trying to kind of wedged themselves. Into what Sean Baker's doing like no Shaun Baker's the guy nobody else's guy there's nobody else in the carnivore community besides Sean Baker that the guy he's the guy accept it you know and I think people need to learn nine. People need to stop trying to make this thing into their own thing. There's there's obviously other people that you can listen to. There's other theories that are gonNA come in but as far as the strect meat and water diet. I don't think there's anybody on the planet that knows more about this Sean Baker and can put it in a way that people can understand it and utilize it and make it work for them over and over and so I think that like we need to stop China. Innovate a carnivore diet. It's like it works. Great it works and so I think that rather than trying to negate what's already there. Let's try to work with you. Know you know real quick on that I'm K- so that sentiment isn't necessarily bad but I don't necessarily agree with I. I think that yeah. Okay we have Sean Baker. He's the expert on this but if there is somebody else who like their learning about it they figured out something awesome and maybe adds a little bit of complexity to it but it adds another layer of increasing one's health and I feel like there should there should definitely be people trying to innovate in it. You know what I mean. There should be people continue to try to push the barrier of what we can do with this. Well I I know that's not necessarily what you're saying that people shouldn't I think it's the naming conventions is what I'm talking about. Okay people try to name it their own. I see what you're saying so like something different than trying to decide. Then they're trying to capitalize on that monetize trying to monetize shit. That doesn't need to be monetize. That's more what I would say. Not Talking about innovating the bite like for example is bought a bunch of Ah I just bought a bunch of ground beef and got liver ground into it like. That's a good idea. And I'm not the one innovated that Danny has been. I'm doing this for like three years. You know I think he even has a company called like meats or something coming out with liver burgers liver in Oregon burgers which would be a great. It's a great idea. That's the kind of stuff like I'm down with that. If you're going to create a product that's GonNa make my life easier by this blending up some meeks. I'm down with that but I'm not down with trying to follow. Oh your diet that you name because you're trying to make money off a something that's been around forever. I get what you're saying. Now I get what you said kind of like the exploit tweet I guess the exploitation of Dying Carnivore Kito To me there are very similar especially with intermittent fasting blended into them. I I think that both diets can be magical like literally magical because of the strange and unbelievable double healing powers they have and just testimonials that we get and the things that we've seen I have no other way of saying other than to say they at their magical. They make shit disappear I've we've seen diabetes and skin disorders and body weight and you've seen all kinds of different things happen. Having said all all that I think most diets are fairly equal. If you can factor in being able to control the overall Paul amount of food that you eat most people will probably go through a very healthy life if they just do not overeat. They've away to control for their calories stories that their way to control the energy consumption that they take in every day and if they move around a bunch they will be relatively healthy. There's there hasn't been one person on the earth to live like fifteen or twenty percent longer than anyone else so no one has figured out. No one has solve this riddle. No one's figured out anything different. Not Dave Aspirin or anybody me with. Maybe we'll find out when Dave asprey. Maybe other people will find out when Monday vows. One hundred and fifty years old. But Dave asprey Joe Rogan myself. My brother we're not gonNA live exponentially that much longer than someone else. Just because we chose this style diet I do think it can keep us while we are here. I think we can have a better quality of life. And that's what on after and that's what makes me feel good about doing these styles of diets and people that have struggled with diet before people have food addictions. I think that this is literally the only the answer for them is Kito fasting and a carnivore diet. Some sort of mixture blend of all three of those in whatever way you gotta get to him but I think that that is a solution to a lot of disease in America. I think you're right as far as like living longer. There really isn't anything that shows evidence. The answer proof that any of these diets are GonNa make live any longer. We see that When you look at things that are comparative like diets that are comparatively begins and and carnivores and people mix diets living to be like around one hundred years old I know Sean Baker was talking about some people the other day. We're saying like Oh like Vegan you can people will think that you can live longer but the longest living woman ever hundred seventeen years old steak and eggs every morning raw raw steak and eggs. Every morning she lived to be one hundred seventeen being really. Yeah and so. That's not evidence of like. Oh that's what I need to do. She lived one hundred seventeen. It's just the fact that like she wasn't a Vegan like you're saying vegans live longer she also also and she also probably didn't even eat the rest of the day. Hardly you know. I don't know if you can figure out a way to control Up consistently and constantly insulting the way that the human body was designed. Then then then you'll probably live a long life. I mean even if we're a measure everyone's glucose in the room like if we pricked everyone's finger right now anyone that just didn't eat glucose levels would probably be similar amongst everyone. Everyone that's healthy you know if someone's unhealthy than it's going to be Skewed quite a bit. Maybe they have a lot of sugar in their blood but your your body has its own healing mechanism did it. You can eat a giant bucket of sugar and eight hours. Later your blood glucose fine yeah regulates it regulates Kamara's GonNa die so my apparently because this diet camera didn't get any carbs day. Where can people find idea Chris? Board Bell Right here at fills coffee shop in At big strong fast on instagram and twitter and all that stuff. I don't really us on facebook anymore. Because you know else. People want to pick up some of that mind bullet yeah mine. Bullet Dot Com backslash Chris Bell Mine Bullets a great addition to a carnivore diet. 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