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A Journey to the Strange World Beyond Our Screens

Outside Podcast

33:08 min | 5 months ago

A Journey to the Strange World Beyond Our Screens

"This episode of the outside podcast is brought to you by lake hartwell country a largely undiscovered region in the mountains of south carolina. That's one of the best adventure. Playgrounds anywhere tucked into the northwest corner of the state. Lake hartwell country offers a unique getaway in uncrowded section of the appalachian mountains. Here it rains on and seventy five inches ear treating a verdant rainforest and as you might expect a lot of waterfalls in fact there are more one hundred many can be reached with a short hike to get to others. You might spend hours walking empty trails or even paddling. A kayak lake hartwell country is truly a land of water. There are three major lakes including its namesake lake hartwell which offers nine hundred and sixty two miles of shoreline. That's more in the coast of california. It's known for superb fishing and regularly host nationally renowned bass fishing tournament. Then there's the youtube river a federally designated wild and scenic river. That outside magazine regularly calls out as one of our favourite paddling destinations. It's one of the longest free flowing rivers in the southeast and provides visitors spectacular. Seen as it plummets through steep gorgeous. They're also sandy beaches and quiet stretches for relax. Visit lake hartwell country dot com now to start planning your adventure to the undiscovered south carolina mountains from outside magazine. This is the outside podcast Now here's a fun exercise to try with some of your friends. Call them up and ask them why they hate the internet just to see what they say. The internet has ruined my life. I was a lot of time on the internet. Especially in the morning before i get outta bed. You know that feeling that you get when you're moving from one room in your home to another except halfway there you realize you completely forgotten why you got up to go to the other room. It's like a bad travel guide to the universe. You go looking for a bread recipe. And he ended up reading about serial killers. Okay but now as a much stranger in more interesting question what would they do if the internet suddenly died. Probably i would spend the first few months just staring off into the distance. And then i would learn to temper chocolate. Go back to taking random walks just leaving the house. Having no idea where. I'm going to end up in just walking. I would read more books. I could become a decent human being again. I get like go out and be erin. Brockovich and save cats in person rather than through clicks and likes. I could just get back to actually do what's important questioning. Our relationship to technology is something. We've done a lot of over the years at outside magazine and on this podcast pacific louis. We have investigated the benefits. We get when we disconnect from various devices and instead seek out connections with the natural world and with each other. If you're listening to this show that probably resonates with you it definitely resonates with the people you just heard. They are friends of the journalist. Chris collin he called them up to help us work through some of the big ideas in his curious new book. It's called off the day. The internet died a bedtime fantasy. Here's how chris explains so off is a funny picture book for adults and adult like children. It's a parable about the death of the internet and what happens to us when that occurs. If you were to look at it at first glance it looks like a sort of like a children's picture book with really interesting Beautiful slightly demented artwork. It's i even know maybe thirty something pages. It's a very slim book okay. You're a serious journalist. You've done being reported feature stories for a bunch of publications including outside and the new york times magazine and wired. So how you go from that to writing. What is very much a kind of silly book here. I think we're all a little defensive at this point in our relationship with internet. No one wants to be scolded anymore. About how we spend too much time online. No one wants to be told yet again that we need to break up with our screens or whatever there was something else that was a little more interesting to me and something that i don't think it's talked about quite enough. What gets neglected. Is this other side of ourselves at came to think of it. As our offline cells. It's just sort of slowly. Vanishing right is because of all the time we spent online so these offline selves in us. Basically we have these versions of ourselves about our lives that are not getting lived. And i think there's something valuable in being reminded the big zest in getting back in touch with the version of me that likes to get off the train in a new city and not take out my phone and nowhere. I'm going the version of me. That goes for a hike and cannot be reached by phone or by text simply saying those things out loud things that we would like to be doing. But we're not doing because of the internet. I think there's real power in that. Chris is certainly a big believer in the power of the spoken word. He's worked with producers to turn some of his best magazine work into brilliantly funny and moving live stage performances and so while he is not an expert in how human brains were lives change when we spend the majority of our waking hours online. He does bring a unique kind of ambitious creativity to the topic. He wrote off his mock children's bedtime book about the internet in a kind of biblical verse. And then he arranged for a very special reading of it on the day. The screens went dog all of creation with quired but also allow squirrels. Screeching and jay's terrific and dry leaves scrape it across the street thought leith into why had i not heard such sounds before i gave us to tweet of them then remembered high. No can do ella will. That was not the voice of god. it was also not the voice of morgan. Freeman playing the voice of god. I wanted to hire morgan freeman but turns out. I'm not friends with morgan freeman. He's also really expensive. If you're looking to hire him to voice your adult picture book right. So instead. I went online and i found an impersonator Turns out the internet is great for finding morgan. Freeman impersonators very easily and cheaply right. Because you never know when something you might need so thank god for the internet. But but here's the thing. Okay you're fake morgan. Freeman read a passage. That i feel underscores. Something that at least tiered outside magazine. We care a lot about which is that. The internet prevents us from being connected to the natural world a lot of the time. So is that what happened to you does. Did this comes any kind of your own personal experience. Yeah i mean. I think we're all familiar with the basic way that the internet comes between us and nature know. We're just too busy doing things on the internet to to remember to go out and hike on saturday morning but there are other ways to that. I i was seeing warp my relationship with the outdoors i would be going for an adventure in some new place and i would get there and i realize i knew exactly what it looked like even though i had never been before and that sort of depressing and then there's this other phenomenon happens and this is embarrassing to talk about but this is sort of how the book sort of popped into my head. Initially i was up in point reyes in northern california i had walked out onto this little bluff over this gorgeous estuary. I was alone had no work to do. It was like your quintessential lovely moment with nature. And i sit down on this rock. I remember sitting there for a minute. Being struck by how beautiful was two minutes. Be being struck by how subline it was. And then the third minute comes around and i feel that old magnetic paul my hand to my right jeans pocket and this is embarrassing. Part i at some level was a little bored by nature. And that's when. I realized i had had a real problem is not just that i don't get out into nature anymore at sort of begun to lose the skill of enjoying it. It was no longer enough just to sit and look at this beautiful place. I needed to be entertained at a at a higher level and so i decided to report this out a little bit and i started calling up folks. I knew who are thoughtful about life and thoughtful about the relationship to the internet. And i just asked them. How would your life change. If the internet went away and the answers i got were this funny. Mix of amusing and sometimes heartbreaking. I asked every person to you know. Just keep your answer to like ten seconds. If you don't mind or or a few seconds everyone went way over that. I think that once you're sort of reminded that you have this sort of void in your life because of the internet just starting to talk about it. Really sort of open the floodgates. I asked the journalist. Mallika rao what she would do. The internet died. She talked about returning to a simpler existence. If the internet suddenly went away. I think i would run outside and just push my hands in the dirt just as a sort of symbolic recognition that my relationship with the planet was going to foundationally change and that i would become more sensory. Tactile physical being would be at a moment of joy and triumph. Well okay so that's something. I really understand at the end of the day of work. Like things like weeding. Just become this incredible like solve to my psyche at that point. Yeah think we've we forget about that. We every time we get back in touch with it. We remember but we forget. It's because we've blocked out so much of the natural world and and we blocked out everything else to our children. Our spouses our friends. you know just about anything that exists outside of our screens. We have a way of keeping that stuff at a distance. While we're busy. You know texting someone you know is not anywhere near us right right the natural world i think we forget to tune into it and we forget the special thing that it does to us and then we start to sort of lose connection to it. We will lose that connection but we're all still hungry for it right. Yeah one of the things. I heard from folks when i talked to them that there is this real hunger for any kind of experience where you're just off the grid being unreachable being untethered being sort of unbothered by that frantic pace that the internet gives rise to. I've talked to the author natalie brazil and she told me a very memorable fantasy of what she would do. If the internet died. I would paca camera and my books all the books that i have wanted to read and all the books that i love and i would pack everything in a little suitcase. A one way ticket to zanzibar. When i got there i rent a little cottage and i would spend my days reading and taking photographs that i would develop in a little dark room behind my bungalow and it would be lovely. Yeah that that does sound lovely. I mean it's tough to beat zanzibar I suppose for for an escape. But but the the strange thing. Even those escapes can be hard. We hunger for them. But it's like this little dirty truth that we all hate to confess. Was we get out there. We often tend to miss the internet and has totally a tooth at. Yeah i think. I think when you first unplug. It's disorienting immediately bathed in calm. A strange thing is when we do manage to get into real nature. We still have the impulse to relate to it in internet terms. We want to know not. Just look at the mountain. We want to take a picture of it. We want to share it. We wanna make sure that our picture gets lighthearted. I think part of unplugging is remembering how to engage in a totally different way. I also think that that is a phenomenon that was massively exacerbated by the pandemic right i think before covid. We were only flirting with the internet and suddenly we were using internet all day and then we use it at night to soothe ourselves after using it all day by watching our favorite shows or whatever it was a necessity of course. I can't imagine trying to do my job or raise my kids this past year without but the screen time is insane and a lot of these new habits that we developed from zoom meetings to you know doing virtual events to just watching the hell out of our favorite series. I think now we're reaching a moment where we have to make a decision at. How do we want to relate to the internet going forward. How are we going to get back in touch with you offline world and with our selves. We'll be right back at the top of the episode. We talked about lake hartwell country a largely undiscovered region in the mountains of south carolina. That's one of the best adventure playgrounds anywhere. This is a place blessed with unique geography unlike most spots along the appalachian chain which have gently sloping mountains here the elevation plunges more than two thousand feet in less than half a mile the result is the blue ridge escarpment a dramatic feature that the cherokee tribes in the area gave a special name. No shock cone gay toll young. That's the blue wall. As translated by garfield long junior a tribal linguist with the eastern band of cherokee indians. The blue wall can be seen from. All corners of lake hartwell country. But get up close. And you'll find an exceptional ecosystem known as the joe. Cassie gorgeous up. This is one of the most remote areas on the east coast with more than forty thousand acres of protected wilderness to state parks and a vast network of hiking tricks. Here you can find black bear. Bald eagles peregrine falcons and dozens of rare plants. The water cascading down the slopes makes its way to lake. Joe cassidy one of the top scuba diving destinations in the southeast. Thanks to its crystal clear waters start planning your adventure to lake hartwell country and the undiscovered south carolina. Mountains at lake hartwell country dot com. One of the stronger points that comes through in chris. Coghlan's awesomely strange and silly picture book off. The internet died is that we've become so accustomed to gorging on information all the time that actually turning off that noise can make us deeply uncomfortable. Here is a passage. They get so right at that on the day. The screens went dark. Thirty three thousand. Two hundred ninety. Eight new yorkers absorbed no our political updates and twenty one thousand nine hundred and eighty three perez new. Not how long commutes would take and seventy three hundred and thirty. Two londoners listened to an unfamiliar podcast consisting of their thoughts. Holy crap let me perish all set st- onto themselves. Though some also failed a strange call. Sweet new calming gap hath installed. They wondered but there was none. I take from the way that passage reads. You actually think that we need to obviously work on turning off that noise at least some of the time and that would probably make us happier. I think that we have this weird addiction not just to the internet itself but to constant information. We want to know what's happening in the news. We want to know how bad the traffic is going to be up ahead. We wanna know how to get to a certain place without having to figure it out for ourselves. We wanna have voices in our years in our heads constantly. I think. Silence is uncomfortable. And i i would defer to the psychologist out there to explain. Why but i assume that we've sort of lost as sort of inner dialogue that we used to be better at having and once. You don't have that you need to have constant information coming at you but only sense that anita some of that information might actually make us a little happier than we we like knowing what's going on in and we like the ability to not be terribly law. Yeah that's what's complicated about. Life would suck in a lot of ways if we didn't have that information. I like being able to a traffic jam and get to where i'm going sooner. I like being able to hear really amazing podcast or book on tape or being able to find some obscure band. That i wouldn't be able to find a record store. It's all wonderful. I don't think that we should be moving in the direction of trying to dislike that stuff. What i wanna do is just be aware of what it's replacing and what it's doing to us. It's very hard to disentangle. The good parts of the internet and the bad parts the healthy parts and the unhealthy parts. But i think that if you can just sort of take your own pulse you can get a sense of how manic your baseline existence has become. I think one sign that we have. A manic relationship with the internet is that we often go to the internet. We turn to when we don't even know why. I talked to a lawyer in portland. Oregon named jose klein who confessed to me that when he first wake up in the morning he'll often start opening apps on his phone that he doesn't even care about much less need to use at that moment. So i will just click on zillow. My fingers will do it before i even know. And then it's like my brain catches up and realizes that i have no interest in any content. Leads zillow might have and even stranger and maybe more disturbing is that he also does these deep dives into her sports analysis sports. He doesn't even actually watch. I know for example. That kyle shanahan coach at the san francisco. Forty niners employs a zone scheme running game. I don't know really what a zone scheme running game is. But i know that that happens. I know that josh. Richardson has been disappointing as a wing defender on the dallas mavericks. Even though i don't think i have ever seen josh. Richardson play basketball. That one really hits home for me. Because i've gone over the deep end reading stories about nba basketball sorta like jose. I'm learning a lot of things. I don't really care about or need to know about but once you start falling into that it's really hard to pull yourself out of it. Yeah exactly. I reached out to a writer named donati roychowdhury who lives in new york and she's written a lot about politics and culture. She made the point. That twenty years of internet use has amounted to a kind of surrender of brain her thoughts and her sense of purpose. You played that clip at the start of the episode about the internet. Giving her that feeling you get when you walk from one room in your house to another forgetting why. Here's a little more of what she had to say about that. You really want to try to remember what it was that you were thinking you needed to do and it becomes inflated like maybe it was just like to empty the trash or something but it takes on this outsize importance because you forgot you forgot it and i and i feel like ever since. I started regularly using the internet which i dunno. It's like twenty plus years now like that. I feel like. I've just been wandering from one room to another completely incapable of remembering what i initially was setting out to do. I totally know that feeling. I mean if i told you about the nineteen eighties gossip. I was reading today on the internet before we spoke blanche it's worse than nba basketball so okay. Our manic relationship with the internet causes us to waste a scary percentage of our waking hours ingesting meaningless information and are always on cells have forgotten how to exist in the natural world. We all know this. But there's another issue they. Chris raises in off. That's not something. I thought i needed to be worried about on the day. The screens went dark. I cried to our children. Let us bake apar- that we know not which recipes rated highest we toiled and toil then beheld. What we thought it would receive neither fave nor heart nor at kim's supplemental conspiracy legs but we ate with vigor. Honestly this one confuses me are you making the point that online pie recipes are one of the worst aspects of the internet okay. Online high recipes didn't almost destroy the fabric of our democracy. But i would argue that. Yeah they're one of the most. I would say most depressing aspects of the internet in a way. And i say this as someone who who uses a lot of online recipes. There's something about that phenomenon. And i'm not picking on pie recipes here but the larger phenomenon of going to the internet and finding out whether something is good or bad before you do it and that sort of breaks my heart because i feel like one of the most strange and wonderful experiences you have as a human is doing some weird new thing and having it blow up in your face you know. I can't remember the last time. I watched a really crappy b movie because i don't need to now. I know because of rotten tomatoes whether a movie is going to be really bad or not. And if it's bad i just don't stream it and i think that there are good reasons for and i think there are also really sad things about that and so the internet as this sort of guard rail to our existence. I think that's a little depressing this one. I still have a hard time with. Because i'd rather not eat crappy pie and watch bad movies. I'd rather be goodbye. Watch great movies because life is short So help me understand the sad part of avoiding crappy things. When i think about things i've done in my life. I'm not sure. I could really say that the good things the quote unquote good things are necessarily better in a lot of cases then the bad things you know certainly as a as a traveler as someone who likes to have adventures you know that the the ones that that go sideways are often the most memorable and they're often the ones where you learned something about yourself or a loved one or the planet. I talked to the wonderful writer. Gary can mia and he described for me the way the internet experiences the world for you so that you don't really know whose voice you're listening to in the end. You don't know what to make an experience that you have because you you're either hearing something that you read in your head or your your thoughts or you're not sure which is which anymore the time that you were in say the roman coliseum and were desperate to have a meaningful historical encounter with ancient rome. But you are armed with a guidebook which has become your bible. And which tells you where to go and what to do and what to think and what to feel and so when you're in the roman coliseum remember this happening me. I couldn't get out of the guidebook leave that web of interpretation and well meaning advice and that day in the roman colosseum was extremely disappointing and sterile empty and essentially footnote to the guidebook well. The internet functions all too often like a bad travel guide to the universe. It's always there and whether it's good or not for bad it's bad simply because it is travel guide and you shouldn't always have a travel guide when you're moving through the universe. There was one more passage from off that i wanted to talk about. It was the one that hit me the hardest because it was about kids. I'm a dad with three young boys and like so many other parents have a deep anxiety about helping. My kids develop healthy digital habits in the year. The screens went dark. Our toobin lay upon the grass and road upon horses and trembled at rainbows for feeling now suffused their hearts where once distraction dwellers let us play my craft for nine freaking hours. They would say and it would come to pass for minecraft or game involving sticks and leaves. Why are parents so obsessed with pulling their kids away from screens. Have we gone too far on that. Yeah i mean as you know. Parents love to play out their anxieties through their children. At one of our favorite things to do this is. This is something that all parents struggle with. Of course not. Just how much screen. Time to give your kids but am i even right to the worried about it in the first place. My kids are addicted to minecraft And they're constantly telling me that. I need to get over my weird hangups about all their screen time and just see that minecraft as a a really interesting fun game. I think to them all my sort of rambling on about the internet and screens and stuff. It's it's just like a weird old man and his weird adult tick the way that adults like vegetables and lasagna or whatever. They don't understand it but they've gotten these well. The crazy thing about that is my kids who have had a relatively light screen. Existence have just been allowed to play minecraft for the first time over the last week. It is something that they absolutely love. And i was having this discussion with my eleven year old and he was saying no dad. It's it's such a great game. It's like the real world and i stopped and i looked at him and i was like well if you like it so much. Because it's like the real world what about going out into the real world instead when he was like no no but but it's different. It's fun it's more of an adventure. And so that's the heart of it in the challenges. The real world is a little slow yes slow. Has mosquitoes real. World's a pain in the butt sometimes right as not at all jury. It'd so how do you navigate this with your own family do all. My kids are are young enough. That i can wield soft power and still control their screen time somewhat. But yeah you know. When i start to waver i do have this conviction. There's another register and we all connect with. Sometimes anyone listening to this has floated in a river on a summer day or had a wonderful walk somewhere beautiful with a loved one where sat somewhere magical and sort of connected with that deeper part of themselves you know that that registered exists and as terrific and miraculous as the internet. Is i really think there is a website that has replicated that yet. And i want my kids to have that weird. Almost trippy experience of being in tune with nature of the universe caller. What you like at that deeper deeper level and you have to cycle down about four cycles to get there. And i just know you can't do that when the internet's humming and your background and my hope is that a funny book that mostly just makes you laugh. It's very gentle and niger is toward just sort of remembering these other parts of ourselves. That don't really see the light of day when we spend so much time on our screens and not in a guilty way. I really don't think needs to feel guilty about their internet had. It's but yeah if you can just sort of reacquaint yourself with these little corners of your personality that like doing other things that sometimes get short shrift and in this Era i think. That's that's worthwhile as it worked for you as it cultivated anything new in your habits you know i i would say i use the internet almost as much as ever. It has not really made a dent in my internet usage. What it has done is a welcome me to these other parts of myself. that had sort of gone dormant. This past saturday. I was up in in greenville in northern california. I jumped on river with some friends and we swam around and we were out away from the internet for hours and not only did i not check twitter or whatever but also tried not to take photos and tried to just experience that day and those moments on their own terms. I got my second vaccine shot. Two days ago and i resist the urge to take a picture of my bandit and share. I tried to experience those feelings sort of privately and with the people who were around me as i was leaving the vaccinations senators a part of me. That wanted to take a picture of it. And sort of have that visual digital evidence that i would or wouldn't share. I didn't i just looked at it with my own old fashioned eyeballs and thought about it with my own old fashioned thoughts and that was refreshing chris. Collins new book is off the day. the internet died it's available and he were books are sold. You can learn more about it. And also listen to additional offline fantasies. In chris's many interesting friends at time to get off dot com. This episode was produced by me. Michael roberts though. Chris colin certainly hoped music is by robby carver. Morgan freeman impression by c. Fulton ninety thanks to melita row natalie. Brazil jose klein or nesher roychowdhury gary mea faith at la and nigel poor for sharing their thoughts on the internet. And what they would do if it does this. Episode brought to you by lake. Hartwell country largely undiscovered region in the mountains of south carolina. That's one of the best adventure playgrounds anywhere visit lake hartwell country dot com to start planning your trip now.

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Is COVIDSafe safe?

The Signal

17:33 min | 1 year ago

Is COVIDSafe safe?

"This is an ABC podcast strands of earned. Anneli mark through the work that they have done. Well the work that we've almost I'm saving smiley and I'm Angela. And today on the signal. The government wants millions more of us to download it's tracking tricep. Kovic safe as one of the conditions for relaxing corona virus restrictions. But people still aren't convinced it's the right move. So what are we about so at the time? We're recording this. We know that more than four million. Australians have downloaded Which apparently is not enough for the APP to help health authorities probably track and trace any new infections that crop up and I'd ask for millions and millions and millions more that you download the covert Saif APP. That is your ticket. That is a strenuous ticket to a covered. Saif Australia where we can go about the things that we loved doing once again and the really interesting thing about that. Shortfall is an ellipse poll showed the majority of us think the APP is a good idea about fifty percent right presumably. At least some of those people would deadlocked yet but haven't yet because they still have doubts so the APP uses Bluetooth to record encrypted. Id's nearby devices also have the APP and because its location and contact Dada that stench shared with the government. They were privacy concerns right from the start and they haven't gone away in the weeks since this was first announced so we wanted to find out what the main fears are now and if they're justified and to answer those questions we called Vanessa Tag. She's the CEO of the firm thinking cybersecurity and an adjunct associate professor at the Australian National University. You've used true that it doesn't do any of the usual nasties that a lot of APPs that spy on Youtube so it does not collect. Gps location or anything like that. It does not listen three microfinance by Radio Camera. Anything nasty like that however. It is a fundamentally new kind of information that it's collecting so it's not about absolute location but it is learning exactly which other people have been really close to you at exactly what times now that information isn't supposed to be uploaded to the central server on this new test positive carpet nineteen but obviously when we talk about risks with who he about. The possibility that that information might be deliberately applauded my full into the wrong hands or whatever. Okay so there are two general categories of concern. Here the first is to do with what kind of daughter is being collected. And then there's the question of how vulnerable is to being re purposed off to the facts right and a lot of people have made the point that we give away more significant personal data than these four folles noble causes all the time but like an ESA says this is a new and distinct. Datta said it's really specific information about who you come face to face with and it turns out. There are a lot of uses for that information. Why would government Australian or otherwise or or a government agency in particular law enforcement? I'm thinking of what? What would they want with these particular data set? You can say immediately that it could actually be really useful for law enforcement investigations of genuine serious crimes. Which I've actually have any problem with so you can see at the moment. Maybe they have the like Donna from Madonna Fine Talents. Maybe even sometimes I have. Gps location but the proxy Makita from Bluetooth Connections. If could be acquired would be very fun. Granddaughter about exactly how close sitting neighbor where to sit in April at particular times and and then their crimes that upset governments Molteni upset ordinary people for example when a source lakes to a member of the press for example right and indeed. This is always the consent when went to event down sits useful for crime investigations. Is that one person's idea of Karma very much match another in particular in Australia. In recent years we've seen for example. The Tola Act. That was supposed to be on. Any terrorist pedophile actually against journalists in an effort to identify their sources and find out that been communicating inside Said the consent is that this data set which has obvious useful applications for investigating genuine. Serious crimes might also be used for cons that most of us would regard his crime early political for example Finan- which journalists had been physically close to which souls what what would be what would be the value to a A government that is hostile to Australia. For example one scenario that consensus that has actually concerned me for many years working on Australian University. Campuses is political freedoms of students from Authoritarian countries living in China. For example. Again at the moment they probably from gps so find enough information to figure out which students are in the lectures era. But I would imagine. It's probably relatively hard to figure out which of the mainland Chinese students are hanging around the Hong Kong democracy activists or exactly how close visiting when they're indoors if these said fell into the wrong hands. There's the potential to make that kind of very fine grind proximity mission available for political purposes for nasty foreign governments just to pick one example of why that might be a problem like I said no question. This is valuable information and so far we've talked about the way that governments might use it. There are also worries that their way's the APP could open a door for privacy breaches that don't break encryption but still gathered valuable information about you whether that's in conjunction with spyware on your phone or something. Banal but still invasive revealing to a shopping center that happens to be running a Bluetooth scanner. Which shops you visit so less serious examples but they show the sheer range of things. That could go wrong. Okay so at this point. I guess we're starting to get a clearer picture of the fact that this data has more possible applications than the one that has specifically been imagined in helping contain corona virus. This is with the security question comes in and all of a sudden a little bit less ridiculous so let's talk about how secure this daughter is. What kind of access governments have okay? So this is a really good question. I am a crypto ker flood and not a Welsh as a cryptographer. There's not really any protection against government getting the DASA. There's a central server gasoline commission. I understand that there's an intention to put in place legal protections but first of all that I need protects against people who obey the Lord doesn't protect against the possibility of for example a foreign Breaking the civil or some of the country's law attempting to override a strategist law and secondly it's only in place until the next look. It's written right so in particular. We've seen mistrial NIA in recent years a bunch of laws that were intended only for series crowns like telecommunications and other legislation assistance and access act which was almost as soon as it was haast tense against generalists so my consent with. I agree that they should be legal protections that I'd feel a lot more comfortable if the system was designed in a way that the wasn't a joint government database or even could be built right so to borrow a phrase of the government's tight the sugar off the table. Yes I think that's a very good way. It would take the sugar off the tyrod so they wouldn't be a place where it was possible to break in and try to gather this about particularly about infected people Even potentially about the contents of us well break in or write a law. That says that you are allowed to access it exactly and a big part of the problem here as far as Vanezis is to do with the fact of everything being on one centralized set because the government has awarded the APPS data storage contract to Amazon. And that's how the company plans to do things. But it's not the only way because Google and apple also working on a similar system but without that same vulnerability and I think it's highly significant than that other countries like Germany and Switzerland adopting a decentralized model adapted around the new process from apple and Google. That is coming out. That will mean it's not just a different big database hosted by apple and Google. It's a completely decentralized system in which there isn't a central place where this information gets stored at the very least the Amazon. Seva loons list of contacted everybody who was infected and it has enough information should happen to have a way of acquiring information scored on the Pistons. Fine it has enough information to Decrypt Information Mundi. That person was close to. It haven't been affected the apple and Google solutions fundamentally different reasons a single interesting facts. There aren't any collections of entities except the fines. That heavy the information necessary to identify the context of stored on a Pistons Five. Okay and we've been talking in the abstract about Australian governments in general but what about the government in particular? What is its record like when it comes to handling these sorts of sensitive data sets? Well unfortunately there's a bit of a history of making mistakes and not being entirely honest about my research group with Chris. Collin and Ben Rubenstein was the group that identified that a Medicare and Dasa in which the Department of Health published nearly three million people's complete Medicare and pay records online. Back in two thousand sixteen was actually very easily identifiable. The encryption of the doctors wasn't done properly and the the patient was actually really is now. Unfortunately although the Department of Health was honest about that easy decryption of the doctors I never really been completely honest about the easy route implications patients. So there's a good two and a half million. Australians at his complete previously identifiable Medicare and PBS records published online and. They still haven't been talked in. That context a field. It's really really important for us to have a lot more transparency about how the fat really works. 'cause we still knife show what's actually happening on the service side. For example we know what happens in trist together because the Singaporeans of my this civic completely openly available for public inspection. But we still haven't got any code that tells us what the is doing. So if I've made another mistake and they've just missed their encryption game. There's no way for us to detect that figure it out. You want to mark the government's homework well it do. Yeah exactly and we already saying even just from the APP for already saying some really constructive examination from people who know a lot more about Bluetooth than I do. Who figuring out some details about how to improve the white works and bluejays. If the government made the civic openly available for public inspection by the rest of us then we'd be able to look at it and understand with mistakes and helping fix Saddam in a way that in cracked everybody okay. So we've talked about the vulnerability of this data set to governments. What about some of those other parties that we talked about who might want to? I guess hacking you mentioned that we don't have proper is yet on the way that daughter is encrypted but from what we do know how secure it. We don't know for sure Amazon. Sittin reasonable reputation for making ed at least as hot as anybody else for random house things on the other hand. We deny that there are some foreign nations in particular that are very sophisticated and have the potential to break into things that are extremely well defended castrating strating right so and you can. You can see why a crispell design would be one. That just didn't have that. What you just said the sugar pot on the table in the first place. If we didn't have that central server we wouldn't have to wonder about with Amazon's pretty good protections Besa than for example. The Chinese government's probably very sophisticated capacity to breaking With all that in mind then. I'm interested to know whether or not you have yourself downloaded the APP. So a handed down Linda pilot to see what it was doing so I downloaded to examine a number standards for me personally. They privacy of who I've been close to recently is a huge deal. In most circumstances I would still probably turn it off in in at time and in the kind of meetings or I'm going to remember the PISS and we're going to tell each other way became on well to me. The casing is understanding. Exactly how the civil works. Because remember my fun isn't generating mind encrypted messages that central. Civis that during that until I would really like to say the code for that not to be confident that it's doing a good job of including my information before custody national out of the place when I say that code and if I get a chance to have a look at it and it seems like then I would consider using it public especially if they go back to fifteen minutes rather than two hours however I really think it would be much better for everybody. If like transitioned across to the decentralized model from epilepsy Google because I think that has much better proxy properties in. It'll probably win that as well. Okay so do you think it's valid for people to be warning the white that they are about this. You worried enough not to download it or do you think people are holding back because of a misunderstanding about the weaknesses in this APP. I think if you concern is the privacy of your close face to face connections which is for some people then. I think you have a legitimate concern in wanting more information. What about people whose concern is less to do with the privacy of their own face to face connections and more to do with this sort of generalized concern that springs from the same? Well as you know the way in which I trust is being betrayed when it came to. I don't know Cambridge analytic scenario and a general trend towards law enforcement surveillance private citizens ever since the beginning of the war on terror. You know this kind of generalised wish to air. On the side of caution when it comes to surrendering what is left of our privacy of those concerns valid or should they be put to one side for the sake of display greater public health goal. In someone's this is a question about Ken. Saint are being asked to consent. There's a great dealer in Mitee pressure on people but there's actually very little information about exactly how it works. I don't necessarily keep that have used a tremendous privacy issue for most people. If you don't care about your the privacy of your face to face connections bump. I think that people have an entirely reasonable concern. Which is there's a lot of pressure today at this very little information about exactly what it is. So this question of concerns and Tame Australia and those teams strenuous being asked to consume on a large scale didn't tame a stranded could get a little bit more detailed information about executive Today as always if you have any tips or questions or you just want to get in touch for any reason our email ease the signal at ABC Donna Donahue. And we'll be back tomorrow by by you've been listening to an ABC PODCAST. Discover more great. Abc podcasts. Live radio and exclusives on the ABC listen APP.

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[141] Detroit Lions Instant Reaction

Buccaneers Observer

31:50 min | 1 year ago

[141] Detroit Lions Instant Reaction

"Every year in the NFL. It's a new team as far as goals go. We have one putting the fucker in offender. Welcome to the buccaneers observer. Pond Cases Ralph Phillips Fifteenth Two Thousand Nineteen What's supporter of. Yes boy list five. Yeah something like that Have you now also. You can thank me because I've worn the same shirt in the last four wins. I don't remember if I was wearing during the loss. But she's the reason why we won. Now you're welcome just doing in my part I've been wearing the same underwear. Good game good game. We dominated that game. There was a little little blurb there where I was like. Oh no they my come back. And that's what happened in the Jacksonville game and it's in that same period of time it's like when the opposing offense and just and then we have to react. Act to their adjustments. Well we're so used to the bucks. Losing Games like Senator Tail Yeah Two bucks. Twitter was melting down at that point. It wasn't the worst time scene but people had come to expect it. James Wisdom threw an interception on a second pass. When that happened I was like yes? He'll have four hundred your yeah. Let's get that it's true. I saw someone on twitter. Call it a good luck. Pick which is so true very accurate so just keep doing james someone else suggested maybe putting Ryan Griffin and the first series to avoid interception and then let James Coming later. I don't know if either because I think still needs to the riley interception. That was only one he had all the day though. So we got that going and for us. The Detroit lions came in they had five interceptions on the season. And I said well the probably double that in this game. I thought they'd get to. That was a total total. Oh domination in the first quarter we had fifteen rush yards to their six two hundred twenty one passing yards to their negative five. Just outrageous outrageous total yards was two and thirty six till one CODA yards is the first quarter nine. I down to one first down. Detroit got we had six twenty plus yard plays in the first quarter alone and they had zero. Obviously they didn't even have twenty yards by the middle of the second quarter. Winston instant had two hundred ninety one yards one hundred thirty six passer rating. He was fifteen of nineteen three touchdowns. Thirteen first downs. The lions had had fifteen total plays. We had thirteen first downs. They had fifteen total plays blow was one of five for five yards. He had a forty forty two rating. That was a the middle of the second quarter and of course right afterwards saying that is when they had their first drive that they could actually put together so they got like three first downs in a row. I think one of their first downs they had in the first quarter of the second quarter was because of the penalty on Santa's correct uh which that is the only metric where they beat us. We had nine penalties for seventy. Are they had to you for ten yards so they beat us there but in every other aspect we just crush him. Oh they did match are rushing. We had forty nine yards rushing gene and they have forty five so now great there. We also had twenty nine rushing attempts to their eighteen so we average one point seven or rush whereas they the average two and a half per rush assault Joe Books Fan Dot com put out an article immediately following a win complaining about our rushing rushing attack like desolate. You're going to focus on. We don't eat it which I was very satisfied with the comments on that article because everyone basically basically was saying that you know. He's been crying for run game for two three years of age Russia too. Now we got the best one in the league. They should just shut up well. Maybe they figure they're whining and gets the attention has been reinforced. This point condition. Yeah which speaking of our best edge rusher SHAQ BARRETT WITH HIS SACK Today tied Warren Sapp Record. That is so crazy I mean. Did you ever think you'd see the day. Yeah figure of one day. Warrants out was different to tackle. So that's a little bit more impressed. We know that's not a metric for uh-huh we'll get to that second but yeah shakhbut. He's just he's A. I was watching him most of the game. He was just tired crap out there it was. It was incredible Rashard. Pearman had a great game. Yeah well yards three touchdowns. Have you started him fantasy today. That was quite a gamble that paid off. You should've started U- I don't even have him. You should have got him. You'RE GONNA lose your first playoff game. I've been in the playoffs but about in your first playoff game this year. Yeah it's too much pressure on me without you in there Dr Sam Blaming Your Barrett Times. More in Sam's record in sixteen and a half sack's wake do games lapse. I'm Gary Well. Yeah Yeah but that brings me to the Carolina. Panthers got stopped the day by the Seattle seahawks. And if you didn't watch that game you you got to see Gerald McCoy called for penalty being offsides on third down and four which gave them a first down and they scored a touchdown. German was on the sidelines. Blinds like throwing his helmet all angry the hasten before that at the buccaneers that kind of passion right. Where was that good? I'm right but we're used to those kind of penalties from him right frequently and so much for him going to a contender. The Patriots Suck. Oh I saw tweet that we can lose Al and the panthers could win out and then we would still tie for second in the NFC south. I think we would still have second place because we have the Tiebreaker Lewis said. That's very exciting. Second in the division. There's really no way frozen to get second in the division and Atlanta. They're four nine. They're playing San Francisco today. We're watching that one now. I'M GONNA put myself on the back so I called that we'd be second in the division. Of course I thought we'd be fighting with New Orleans for the division title. Oh my gosh. There was a kick return with Atlanta and the returner pushed his own guy. I down back on top of that. Anyway you know. I don't know that you really didn't pick house has because it's all the podcast. We got our picks in writing. But that's not good with you because okay you keep mentioning They asked Bruce Arians about him today in the press conference and he said you're darn right. He's coming back next year or or something he laughed. He said he's not going anywhere. That's good to hear that. Yeah definitely I think this whole team really likes the coaching staff and all that lose people it. It worries me but at the same time. I'm kind of confident that they'll be able to people out of the guys that we need to keep yeah. I think there's a core group that we need to have and and I think that everyone likes to play a wants to be here so but definitely you could tell this as a team on the rise. Yeah and they all have really good. Chemistry mystery and relationships like there wasn't instagram post from Vida Film and they call him bigger. All I guess and then Vida is Sufa. They have nicknames for each other and they were joking around and laughing so it was cool. It just seems like there's a lot of camaraderie there. He's got a lot. Yeah which they really showed up today Sean Murphy. Bunting got his pick six in his hometown. THIRD-ROUND DETROIT third interception option on the season leads the team and interception crazy. I never would have guessed that his seventy interception return was the fifth longest by any player in the NFL this season and the longest by Buchan ears. The player since Mason foster returned eight five yards for touchdown versus New Orleans in two thousand thirteen crazy Mesa Foster Mitt Romney went to redskins. I liked him him and it got cut this year. Yeah ugly jibs whistle the first player in NFL history with two four hundred fifty plus pass your games consecutive -secutive. The only one to ever do it. Dad Is Insane. We knew play in a league with the likes of drew brees and Air Rhonda's and Matt Ryan and no one's ever word on that before o'brady released gunslinger. Yeah Philip rivers craziness and James had a pretty good day went twenty ninety eight forty two which is almost what David Blau went. He went twenty four forty three but Davis had four hundred fifty eight yards four touchdowns one interception and had reading of one twenty four point nine. He got sacked twice Moga ties twice to Blau. Yeah he had two hundred sixty yards six yard average compared to Timothy Winstons ten point nine yard average prepares Blau ended up with a fifty four point four rating. Compared the James Winstons. One twenty four point nine right. He threw no interceptions and had no touchdowns and two interceptions phenomenal within. So with Chris Carlin getting hurt in the game. The the big ones the sideline white man Whitehead Scotty Miller also James Through completions to eleven different receivers receivers ishmail high high. He got one three yards third down conversion to if I recall that correctly hunts and he got hurt but he had a reception for fourteen yards. That's right I said that's a head injury concussion protocol which is interesting. Because we've talked about this all year long one of the positives with the buccaneers is that we have not been hit the injury bug. And then we've got all these hamstrings Mike at Mike Evans last week. And then this week Chris Godwin which. Ba said it does not look good same. Same thing he said was Evans. So I don't know what's going to happen there but and then Whitehead Scotty Miller said. Maybe they're pushing them too. Hard at practice actus. Maybe so he said he's going to get with the sport science people. NC Ex but you know it's it's happened at the end of the season. If you'RE GONNA have it happen this is done. You know if you're not going to play offs and bring in some guys that can take place not Louis. I want to see what happened to Ryan. Jensen was this was in the second quarter minutes. Yeah he got hurt with off the silent he was pissed he was like purple and then they had offered was taken snaps when Winston rely on the field and we call a time out and they were just like practicing briefly warming up and then came back out and he was like no play. The coaches were like trying to holding back and he just went back out and then I read a tweet later in the game that said that his upper her arm was wrapped pretty tightly so I wonder if that was it but yet he was pedsed and then there was one point on the broadcasts. You can see him fighting with defensive. Lionel pushed off. I just love him to one day. David had a great game to tackle for a loss. There they were great. Great tackles and then it. Didn't you have an interception that got call myth for penalty that was on. JP The penalty will go. Yeah he had had eight tackles seven solo two fouls one past defendant. We had quite a few TSA fails we had four five five six seven seven. TNL's yeah good stuff grapes. Yano days that bunting pick six in the fourth quarter when they were making their comeback that yeah they're in Stewart and twenty four. He had an interception with four minutes left but they reversed it looked to me like like a ball. Never hit the ground. I mean it could have but I just didn't see enough on the replay where they couldn't overturn it. Yeah I need to go back and look at it because I just saw the one time when I look at showed at one and usually they're very strict about overturning. It's not I think that they could have made the case for four. There's not enough there so it just has to stand. That was my analysis. I saw it. Didn't look to me like you could see the ball hit. The now's my point his arm of the way. So I don't know what angle they had where they can actually see that not from the broadcast angle. Anyway David also caused caused a fumble at two minutes and forty seven forty seconds left that was recovered by Devon White. That was awesome. Love to see that he was not he going to fall now blowing trying to pick that thing back by then all the lions fans were gone which I get. That stadium was empty. I now I feel for lines fans man. I've always had a soft spot for them. I like Matt Stafford and it was really weird. We had a little the two minutes left. We got the ball we victory formation with Ryan Griffin out there and then we did it four times turn it over on downs. They had thirty five seconds left or something like that. They did the kneel down here but still never give up like that. I don't think I think it sends the wrong message to the team. That's what it was. The Chicago game name was last year with Qatar. That's what I said. Last six minutes left he started around the ball round the clock out and we were down twenty points or something. I can't remember and he he just gave eh six minutes left and I said that's it. He's you know he's GonNa lose a team like that you can't you have to fight and fight you know and even even when you're down to three scores wars of thirty five seconds left you go. You never know what's GonNa Happen in full moment. You never know I mean the Atlanta Falcons got three E. onside kicks. Yeah couple weeks ago. One was called back penalty but they got to to write back to back and Matt Ryan when out there in late in awe. I'll be surprised if they hang on him this at the end of the year. He's just had a really crappy. Happy Year what do you think about Janus game but I think the I think either in debt. Oh most definitely there are some things he needs to improve on. Of course. He's he's always needed to improve on these three things up said to we drafted by it with the rest of the team. Rallying around him other snapping snapping up exactly offensive. Line did good today. I was shaky there to start off with but you know you get plenty of time to throw in Nice pockets. But the defense is really stepping up and in making up for Timothy Winstons deficiencies right like that. Interception didn't Detroit gets the ball backing. They go three now. They actually lost. George they got an interception us lost five yards three plays and then put it back to himself to didn't really happen. And Tamers t be able to overcome losing and Mike Evans. And then Chris God win Roy Mike Evans played with Johnny Manziel in College. And it was completely evident that Mike Evans was the reason why Johnny Manziel played as good as he did to. That fell and weren't playing together. You could tell who is carrying that tandem. You can't say that about James Winston now. You can't say Mike. Mike Gavin hasn't played two games. Now and James Winstons put forward and fifty plus yards two games names these past that anybody anybody can catch the ball. James Woods is going to get you the ball so you can't blame. You can't say the receivers are what makes Jameis Winston and I would have to say it's the exact opposite wisdom's making receivers. Although Mike Evans I think he could probably if you could make Johnny Manziel look you can make anybody look Yeah Oh yeah. He's absolutely an elite receiver. Yes yes he is. And you know the combination between Hill and Jameis Winston. You've been for the next few years. That's that's GonNa be an unstoppable duo and that we got Chris Godwin in there which I love Godwin because he is so physical does not look like he's. There's a lot more slender than Mike Evans. Says I feel like like Mike. Adams is a little bulkier and Chris. Evans just looks very lean by Chris Chris Christie team. I wish the shield in there did we ever tell this story about going and seeing the store on one anyway now and that's story for another time. Maybe the off season Glossman Trade Chris Collin he does not look like a physical player but he is so hard to take down he has constantly philly breaking tackles evading tacklers. It's really impressive. Like Mike Evans. He is big but he slow and he can get tackled. He's he's not a yarns after the Cat Guy Goggin as we haven't had one of those down plus Chris is a great blocker you know. He's very physical he's out there you know. He's not a Julio Jones level blocking but he's out there doing a good Dang job I think he likes contact depression too because he doesn't look like receiver but he really is Chris. God we're GonNa out was a shame because there was a stamp posted on the twelfth right before the game that Chris Godwin has seen the most targets without a single drop to seasonal one hundred thirteen targets and he has not passed yet really second in the NFL where he was second in the NFL with twelve. Hundred twelve receiving yards and nine touchdowns so hopefully he'll be able to come back and answer the staff if not. He's had a really good head. A great year. Put Tim up there with the with the elitism in the game. The ten long has played for the Tampa. Bay buccaneers. All of them were over twenty yards for the Detroit. Lions only had three plays ladies that were over twenty dollars how they only had nine plays that. Were overtaken unbelievable. All we had over ten twenty plus your incredible so we had more twenty yard plays than they did ten years ten plus yard place. Well Wanna I WANNA give a shout out to Britney one of the captains of the Tampa Bay buccaneers cheerleaders. She has gone to the pro bowl. How do they select that person and no idea idea well good for Brittany represent had they set the pro bowl? WHO's GonNa win the players? Keep out in kidney any spell and I think that's how well the player or the fan voting only thirty percent of the total votes right. It's the players the right. I don't Allah. How Fares put all the popular contest India? Because I mean if Evans Godwin Berit Winston and and Vida don't go to the pro ball. It's obvious it's all popularity and we know they're not going to go to the pro bowl shack definitely needs to go. Mike Evans definitely needs to go. Oh beat them. I don't know that many defensive tackles it or nose tackle. Our position is defined right to once you have that good a stance you know air. On course he's GonNa go check better go. They've sack leader and now he's been the sackler all year I think he's he was tied for a little while he might have fallen down in half at one point right I think so. That's quite impressive. Man or teams impressive. Continue their fun to. Why even announcer said even now said that I liked it when Lavar David made one of T. f. l.? I think it was a hit on that tight end. And it was like you could hear the head on the broncos. They replayed it. And what are the announcers. We're like listen to him. He's jacked and ages going off and the announcer was. I was just going on about how it's awesome to see that when a player gets like that so it was cool. Well our next opponent is the Houston. Texans that's going doing to build a Saturday guys about this because yesterday I felt like my whole day was just sitting around woodland my thumbs until the last point off your from. Yeah you know and we were talking about this earlier that normally at this point during the season we're not excited for the Games. We're just excited for them to be over because normally they're so bad at this point in the season where it is ready. I was excited for the game today. Tale you almost hit it. Exactly you predicted could forty two seventeen. The score was thirty. Eight seventeen so cops kudos to you. You said thirty to seventeen so if we're going by prices right rules island over over thirty to twenty one thirty to twenty one. I should've just let you give me more props. Shut my mouth so yeah. I can't pretty close the Houston. beat the Tennessee Titans today so they are trying to win their division right. It's still close. The titans are only one game down on the Texans but they're coming to the buccaneers. Yeah I know last two home games we are done with rogue gains. We finished five and three on the season on the road road. Yeah we had a good run and we. We got a lot of mileage to do this. I think most in NFL history ridiculous. They need to make the Patriots do that next year as punishment for other teams. Yeah we watch the video of the Viagra for and the bengals security guy. He was filming and they were like. What are you doing there? You can't you can't okay. Here's the thing does. The Patriots really need help beating the right not to be the Bengal things out because anyone thinks with the bucks needed to beat the bengals. I don't think so. Come on us to in Texas to come into the House fighting. They'RE GONNA THEY'RE GONNA be fighting playing for. I guess the play for Deandre Hopkins was held pretty well today right yardage region staff. Yeah with the Texans so you know maybe we can get a blueprint from that but they did win so watch some film on the Texans as weak the close close game twenty four twenty one with Houston beating the Tennessee. Titans deandre Hopkins ended up with a six or seven hundred nineteen yards no touchdowns though that's really the difference. There can still hawked all the touchdown throwing two or three receptions three targets gowdy at thirty five yard five yards yards in two touchdowns Deandra. I'M GONNA leave isn't a first round of the playoffs so don't forget. The game is on Saturday. One PM. Elm You'd get worried out all the buccaneer fans diehard they're gonNA know but there are some people out there who are not going to be aware of that so let lemesurier late everybody now be nice to have a a pack stadium the the Choi Lions only half fifty six thousand people show up in their sixty thousand was sixty five hundred sixty five thousand and it didn't uneven look like that much now. That's their official. The official paid numbers. But like I said a lot of a lot of corporations buy season tickets then. People don't go so so next week should be a pretty good barometer for where we are at WE'RE GONNA go in limping because of all the injuries I think our defense is really gonNA have to step it up. Not that they haven't been stopping it up but this is a different caliber team than what we've seen in the last few weeks we were to in six at week. Eight eight nine nine we gave us but and we are seven and seven now lost one day and that was against. It's the saints team very proud. I'm happy happy with another. Isn't that a full month of being proud and welcome my chest out mccullers hours with no humility December is a good month for the bucks finally for the play offs but yeah terroists kind commissioning month. If we would've won that giant's Game Bruin won the giants game and the Tennessee game both two games. We should should have won the giants game in particular because we only lost that by put literally and we'd be right in it we'd be right in the middle of the hunt but a spilt milk. We're GONNA get football team. They're entertaining to watch the beating people. Silly look at hope especially for next year. Just imagine what do with a full a few upgrades or just a full year in the system. Yeah yeah everybody getting more used to each other heavily. We've got a lot of continuity to keep people our any that's going to wrap it up for us if you want to stay. Listen to Bruce Arians Post Post game press conference. We'll have it at the end of the podcast here. Great Game Today Been Fun to watch. It's good to see us. Beat down another team always enjoy that we played well. I think I think you're going to be hearing US talked about all off season as the team to watch. So buccaneers fans. Hold your head up high stick chest out wait colors proud and till next time box another game. That always ebb and flow in a ballgame. We kind of gave up to broken place. Got Him down there but then our defense. I really rebounded well. And ABC's on just the pick six and pretty much puts it on Ice Jason. We get another stop and James Sits. Obviously Chris's down with another hamstring Scotty got a hamstring when he scored scored his touchdown and can't say enough about the guys ish jumped at narcotic I downplay and hug we'll see how he's GonNa hit injury so he made a big play. I mean other says okay though intercepts show. Let's go. Let's go win the game and so I thought James Pay really really well. He saw the hottest a little bit late in. The guy made a good play on it record before when he starts sixty per year. Yeah I thank you know. There's more good than that. That's what we've been looking for the whole time you know and You know I think the biggest thing for me was to give up any points. We we turn the ball over inside to fifty this nothing defensive starting to grow up a little bit sudden change defense and protecting him a little bit better it gains by. Yeah I think with injuries that occurred in game Can't say enough about the guys like I said I don't Care What Your Jersey numberous when you have. That buccaneers and plug on your helmet. There's an expectation level of play when when you step out on the field and its whether if you want to practice squad last week or if you've been a backup tackle or backup nose. Guard the level of expectation doesn't change out there and do something to win the game. Yeah I'm surprised this law I really am. I guess with Chris in my cabinet ears the head. It was hard but you know he. He had a great ball game that last one was great thrown catch and we had him earlier And we got hit right when we get ready to go get him. I thought he had a long ninety nine but I can't say enough about nine John. There's always some some butterflies and you know I didn't see the walk in the back but they always your the Labor. They lost everything. Just where we're practicing were forming on Sundays and There'll be a big test now with. We'll see WHO's left for Houston on a short week. You know we'll be talking about to our sports people about it. Maybe I've overworked them in practice the receivers because we need the reps are quarterback needs the reps wchs and so we run a little bit more than this time of year. That I would probably like to do that. Are we need to reps James in the. I think there's some discomfort. I don't know how much pain but there's discomfort you know. He got used to the glove real quick and guys guys did a good job of making that thing for him him. uh-huh huge huge play. The you know they kept thrown to the guys can't catch it finally through the one guy that can catch and it went to the house. I mean deans means got easiest to get goes through his hand. Caught in ways at one Then it was a big play in the game. Big playing the game. The good Ol knows this Friday watching Friday's Friday's practice with the glove and the brazen The fact that he wanted to play speaks volume of him. Todd order because we had that eight more SASS out there. We go but this kid did help the jobless scrambling and but yeah I mean. That's a huge record islands. I don't I don't think we can look that at all. That's that's that's big time suse which Tucker spot aw came off the edge and it looks like both guys missing. They finally rushed push. Push them into to sue and he got him on the ground and I thought he's going to get the ball out but Long and then you get a penalty. That's good you were giving. Uh Yeah. It's everything I mean. What what we're trying to finish out on a on a positive note and with all the guys had to step up in this ball game especially offensively it means a ton Does not look good but yeah can you. He was close today. You know tried to move. Elliott Elliott Bull rushed him and he couldn't handle it so that was it. Aw knew for sure being going they were uh-huh going anywhere. Those fantastic you know. Just just give them one and let's go play when the human that first quarter was lights out and everybody was on the money and You know so yeah. I can't say enough about it.

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Insomnia Line

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37:31 min | 1 year ago

Insomnia Line

"I'm Anna sale host of death sex and money in our new series game changer we're looking at how the pandemic has upended. The lives and livelihoods athletes could be the end of my career I. I. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Ch. Listener supported W NYC studios. Wait you're. Listening to radio. Radio from. WNYC. Hey I'm jaboomer on this is radio lab. I want to start off with some good news about the show. As most of you know. My Longtime Co host. Co Conspirator. Powell Robert Krulwich left the show back in January, and a few things were immediately clear one. He's replaceable. There's no other robber. But simultaneously it was also clear that. Over the years the show has grown to be. Way More than just the Robert Jad situation we now have all of these reporters and producers who you here on the show all the time it's much more of a collective. And so. In the spirit of doing something new rather than trying to recapture the old and. In keeping with that chaotic more collective vibe that the show is now become. Here's my news. Going forward. I'm still GONNA be hosting the show of course, but I will be sharing the space on again off again with. Two new coasts hello everybody for the first. Time. There who aren't actually knew. Lots of Nassir and Lulu Miller jeter, you having cold feet about welcoming to the fire of the microphone. No. So excited. When we were planning this whole thing out actually got them into the studio just to sort of talk about the emotional issues of being in radio lab hosts, words that it's a syndrome. Pathology, Stockholm Syndrome, old host. Welcome thanks. So lot of course you've heard on the show over and over again including most recently the series the other lot. If on top of that, he just released a Netflix show called connected, which is very cool. Go check it out and then. Lulu. Actually started with me on the show fifteen some years ago when it was just a tiny little operation. And she is now back with us after having gone off, co-founded the podcast and visibility a-. Written this incredible book why fish don't exist that maybe cry. Now. You will be hearing Lulu and lots of talking to me bringing their own stories to the show as always, but also talking to. Our usual incredible lineup of producers and reporters. What I'm really excited about is getting to go along with all these different reporters. There someone else's has reported this story, and then we get to like circle, draw some era circles and. Get it back. That's our. Only, so We can do that. Just. To try just just humor me introduce yourselves in this new role see how it goes. I am Lily Miller Co host of Radio Lab. I'm not sure how the words are gonNA come out of the mouth here, but let me try them. All right. I'm of Nassir Co host of radio. APP. How'd that feel? I'll tell you very acutely what it felt for me was. I hope I. Don't screw it up between the time I said that and the time this goes to air like anything can happen between them and I hope I don't mess it up. Just just W I was going like that see. You could see a little. Feels very, very, very special. Don't make me put words to it. Fair to. Say That I. I can't even express in words how excited I am to be sharing the space with these two brilliant strange deep thinking, deep feeling humans having them with us as we head into this. The end of a very. Strange Year and take whatever comes next it just feels. Right to me and really exciting. Now at this moment in time lot of is actually still finishing up his paternity leave. He had his second kid just recently. So he's hunkered down at home with a newborn, but Lulu actually jumped into the saddle with us here radio lab a few weeks ago. And after hanging around and climate into a bunch of conversations and arguments in meetings. She Well. She ended up bringing a little something for all of you today. It's an it's an experiment sort of. Definitely something we've never done before so. We're just going to. Just GonNa dive in. Okay. Lou Welcome. This is the first time that you and I in our new relationship to one another. First Time we do this. Yeah. Where do you WanNa Start I think it was about a week ago things about a week and a half ago where We all had a pitch meeting like my second week maybe here on the team just trying to like get my bearings and step in and I brought up power been having trouble sleeping back in the spring and I noticed pretty quickly that I was one in this wave there had been all these studies coming about coming out about how insomnia is on the rise. Man turned out a ton of people on the team had been thinking about similar stuff this. Epidemic of anxiety and sleeplessness. wishing. There was a way to tap directly into that space in and within literally a couple minutes we had this idea of setting up an insomnia line what people call in and we thought we'd just have the phones open from two am to sunrise eastern standard time. Wow. You went all the way from two am to set to sunrise. Yes. We chose night which was last Thursday night. September. Seventeenth. And you know the night we picked at this point it seems like a totally different world. It was the night before it was the night before R G died. Hand about a week before the Briana Taylor ruling. So, this new wave of hardship wasn't in the area for us or our callers. Okay. But at one forty five am we tweet it out the phone number? And said if you're awake. Call us. Nor the Radio Lab I'm in Los, Angeles California, I haven't some you then sedan the voicemail started rolling in who right away. Yeah. So like two am struck. Radio first time listener a long. Long time listener first-time caller. They were like forty right off the bat just waiting. And it was like this immediate cross section here laying in my bed with my dog. The country and even beyond one forty one in the morning here in Mexico City of just like. Intensity I mean I think the thing we realized really quick was that we were sticking out this antenna into like a really vulnerable time. High any. Corey. Denver Colorado. And I can't sleep because. Miss my mom. She passed away this year. I miss her recent. I. quit drinking a few weeks ago. I am currently walking circles around my apartment. I really WanNa drink again that can hear the clock to. All the bazars blended together right now I can hear the fans finished. Women through time soup. You know people were worried. They were worried about covid. Time Code and so I don't. Anymore about their jobs I lost my job in March. The covid was teaching English as foreign language today and tomorrow too I. Have Another job interview they'll have A. Job Lined up. I. Don't tell you about this. country. Everything that is having them rescue. Yeah, a woman. It's complicated. So considering moving maybe to study Dominican Republic or even going back for data. No Breathe, out and your. Lungs squeak a little bit from the West Coast. There was just tons about the smoky skies. FOOF smelled like an ashtray for days and really hazy and smokey and kind of always smelled like Howard. Hughes, defend later. If, you choose discomforts after. Draft SPOOK. Week but there's a fun twist right now which is. I can go outside actually some places it had rained the sailors sunder and. So. You know for all the worried there was another side to the night. Hey Yo radio lab man named Ricky. And I'm bobby right now. Even though I'm tired I WANNA stay up. Just good. All the our know. For for somebody else. Working. I guess want those wants to read our. Minds I'm not totally sure wine awake I'm started drawing. And now I think maybe don't WanNa. Go back to sleep all these people just leaning into their weird thoughts the big thing and thinking about today's that learned that course treadmills exist. Do you imagine you have a building which is mushrooming mushroom. The trees in the morning. When you wake up instead of locking your, you know food from the garden you're actually putting mushrooms from your building. It's it's just great thing that maybe one day we can have a building which will give us food throughout the whole night that line between reality and fantasy. Was Thin. I've been having really weird Dream Yeah I. Have Nightmares Terrible Dreams. It was like a little baby Fox that died and we were trying to have a year old for a few minutes ago. Had to break up a fight between a couple of raccoons outside. Our monsters chasing me my cat is sitting on my. Neck I'm on the planet Keleaf Rex about seventy. Three light years from Earth. Looking at Mars from my backyard I can see just looking at the sky it's particularly read and very much loved to falsely. Can't we. All told there over two hundred calls, and if anything came through loud and clear, it was that during those hours. People feel really alone. Alone. I'm scared. You WanNa. Call me back I missed A. Eight. See to give me a call back. The numbers may fall back. And let me away for longer. Coming up. Conversations across the void. Into trip to the stars. Radio lab will continue in a moment. Out This is Blake. Crozier. From Nashville Tennessee radio lab is supported in part by the Alfred P. Sloan. Foundation enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world more information about Sloan www dot sloan dot org. Science Reporting Radio lab is supported in part by science. Sandbox Assignments Foundation initiative dedicated to engaging everyone with process of science. This is radio lab. We are back I'm Jaboomer Rod and I am co-host Lulu Miller. And interestingly, enough. Luck US calling in the bathroom and actually calling in the bathroom because I wanNA wake baby at two forty seven am on the insomnia line. We got a call from our other CO host. latiff Nassir. To share a little factory that I discovered the very, very lots of which was that. Nineteen, thirty nine. There was A. P class destroyer so the HMS Porcupine. And if the two pieces and then they named the pieces. HMS Pork and the HMS Pine. which was just incredible. Kit. Anyway back to the mission at hand a bunch of Radio Lavers had all gathered to man the phones and screen the voicemails. And Two am heads and there's voicemails. Ready okay. So we started calling people back. Here we go. Here we go who's on the phone here. She met with the. Well. Hey. This is Shema calling from radio APP. What's your name? My name is Kweyo a die Where are you? I'm in New Haven Connecticut I'm I'M Bassett Street and I have been commissioned by the city to make. The city's first black lives matter mural. I'm sketching out the words which are twenty, two by two, hundred and seventy seven feet. In total and then on Sunday people are gonNA come. and. Take. Some yellow paint and I'm going to orchestrate them to. fill in the letters. Is there a reason that you're? You have to do this mural at three thirty in the morning. Each thirty where you are right. It's three thirty in the morning. Yeah So the city of new haven commissioned me to make this Niro but. The only are closing the street from. they're only closing the street from six am on Saturday to nine PM. And I told them like this is the pavement bureau like need to close the street so I can like sketch it out and Make sure that there's enough drying time after we paint or. And they're like, well, we can't do that. So in your sketch, are there like people in this mural or is it just the letters themselves? Oh, it's just it's just the words black lives matter in like yellow pain. And You know this message is. I was conflicted with this message because I would rather be like painting flowers painting. Paying people. But like having to paint this. Is it's been really tough. It's tough to be reminded. That have to remind others of your own humanity. That's difficult for me. I don't know how much we're doing in terms of city to. You know make it. They don't have to paint this mural again. Good Morning Eric Hi Alex. this is Sarah. Calling from Radio Ella next producer Sarah Carter. He was like you might have called a while ago I wake up at that time because that's when rodents tend to be most active and I work in Boston. So there's plenty of rodents to be had. Union exterminator yes. That's what most people call us. We have fancher nance ourselves but and so I usually wake up at to drive into the city and start chasing rats. Take care have a good rest of your night. Have a great day. is bobby. Yeah. Then Molly Webster Bobby it's Molly Webster from Radio Lab. How are you? I'm. Amazing. I mean I'm I'm looking out over. Brighton Beach Ocean. I'm on my terrorists with my trees and my plan to can you tell me either why you're awake or something's keeping you awake I've always been a and insomnia person since I was a little kid you know I'd sneak out of the house. When I was a teenager you know like their game board Jane I go wander out on the beach at night and the midnight and sing to the ocean you know. And see what I can see I'm here on ATM floor okay. And? Over there that Rockaway, is that the ocean that I can hear in the background or wind like lake? Traffic but the oceans. Anyway. Beautiful night. What a great life I have a blessed we are. Hi, Hi is this Zule. Tell me where you are at and why you're awake. Yeah so I am in Portland Oregon and I am awake because we are. About to embark on a little road trip all the way to To get away from the smoke from the. A here, the sky blue in order places. So I'm really excited like, what is it like to live without a? Sky I. Pretty trippy it feels like A. Like an instant. Like Debbie filter or something like that. Are there other ways in which? The world looks or feels or sounds different because of the fires. One of the top of the. Older bird just like stopped. Showing up or singing. Really. Quiet. Today I think was the first day of like actual. fresh air. So I've just been sitting outside and like breathing that in while it lasts where am I reaching you right now where are you producer to open low? I, am in The bay area in northern California I, standing in my yard just to come outside and be reminded that like they're still lice out here like the hear the kids. Really Beautiful. It's like gleeful and found media. Can you take a deep breath for me inserted describe what that feels like now that the air is clear. It's seal. Freeing. Reporter Tracy Hon Hai. Speaking with a woman named Maya I'm. An where are you? Calling from Westchester New York in why you wait I'm a college student right now Homework till one active brain till four. So much going on. It feels like domingos all day long there's no white at the end of the tunnel. About calling a friend when you're up the. Sleet. Another friend that you know maybe having trouble sleeping. We're actually while I call guy. Yeah. I know but that's that's the way. Ask The question. Crumbling I always do during the day but never that I think he do at night when I know we're all feeling for. My can I pass on a tip that I learned recently for Falling Asleep I rip off one. Okay. So. Why don't you try when you're lying in bed thinking of a letter? And like the easy one like. or be or something, and then think of every word you can make that letter. and to see if he can bore yourself to sleep. Modern Day counting cheap it's kind like counting sheep. I'm GonNa give you a letter eminent think of think of the letter L. War. Pad. Lab. Land. Larry. This was something we did do from time to time. We probably couldn't help much. We would give people little offerings that we hope might at least change their mindset So okay I'll just play one last. Hey is this Tressan. Speaking I'm sorry that you'd sleep is alluding you. So can you just say again where you are and and while you're awake I'm in Detroit and and my bad that has. Half, the time has doubled nowadays as a workspace and. It's Really troubling Separating worth from personally and Whole days go by better just warned you take yours. You know it feels like just trapped. I guess. Well. Man. Offer, you a sonic gift to maybe try a different thing. And see if. Okay and rewards can you stay on the phone but can you turn? Can you get all those screens away from you? Closer out in a little way. All right I'M GONNA. Pipe in a special. Guests multiple. Can you hear us? Yeah. I can't Hey I'm justin nice to meet you. Hey Nice to meet you. Hi. Musicians West Wing and Kelly Libby from. Virginia and we've got a song to play here. The Psalms called middle of the night. Wow I hear goes. Far You. Rose through You. Pay. For. Those Indeed. You just called up and saying, how did he ask them? I asked them if they would be willing to sing a lullaby a by to someone who couldn't sleep and they gave me a window that they would like be get up and do it. Those. Nice. I like that. Yeah. And to end this whole thing. This whole sleepless. Anxious. Time experiment I'm. Just, tired. And I, WANNA go back to sleep I wanNA leave everyone with one more of these offerings. Comes from. Producer anti-cuban. I can see the very top of your head. On a second for me, can you hear me? Good to meet you may. First of all, I want you to introduce yourself. So Tummy like what is your name? Cushioning. Oh. Factor Fleischer's such a good name was your last name. John My name is flat. Shirley. Johnson we. We live in Kip Phil Essay. How older you? Five. And wanted to talk to you about sleep. Do you have trouble falling asleep? Yeah. Abilene nine I hate the long time until I get sleep in. Why is that? What are you thinking when you're trying to bowl sleep? I not thinking of me I way like I have a lot N. G. does stay up at night. What would you rather do? What is your body? WanNa do when you're trying to keep it still. Like to have a dance party boat one night we get down. Did Yeah I just like to have Yeah. Way Night by can. Yeah what are your pajamas look like? Now Dr. P Gays Gloom. Dark. PJ's. Do One my old one drill for I had like a glowing skelton one that matches. Ri- Blown Jar. By the new one for a five-year-old. Yesterday on the phone we talked a little bit about how you dream about monsters. I dream about monsters every night. What are these monsters tell me about them? Loudly boxing monster. Now Uttar Willing Galleries Carey is hard to fall asleep because of the monsters. There too scary at way down Have that problem too. It's hard to fall asleep when you're afraid of things. Fletcher I want to ask your advice about something. So tonight we're GONNA have a lot of people call in to our radio show, and they're going to be people who can't fall asleep in her trying and trying and trying, but they just can't in there so tired, but they can fall asleep. I want to know what what advice do you have for them? What do you think they should do? I. Send Chad. Okay that's a good idea. Do you, WanNa read me your meditation doing to try to. Get so we can play it tonight for the sleepy people can't sleep. I. Think my shoes up to. Nash. Spe. Get Way to relax. down. Low. And Bob. SPACEX. West. Speech. Down Larry. Manner. Eat. On relate to your backyard. This of space. Sparkle Stars. Sell can evolve ours. Relations. You packed a governor's in. Her lanes. In House. San Diego. Lions alar in. Our, stars and constellations. You take sleepy blast you. Can take in. Marches that long. Way Away. Telling you flow into your Spanish ship. And Fall Asleep on the floor. And Grain of Autophagy John Tomorrow. And be asked. Inactive Time. I mean. And you play baseball. Soccer fish be. Go on more, ventures. In May at Sanur. Now planner lift doings nets. got. Fletcher from Tennessee you're amazing. You Talk. To me every. Lou. Wow Thank you for taking on that journey and also Fix To. McEwen rates cusack who helped Lulu produced what you just heard into the entire radio lab team the Road Shotgun with Lulu all night screen calls talked to people who called in Tracy Hunt Shimon I Mali webster and McEwen Sarkar Tobin low also big thanks to Fletcher Lee Johnson and his mom Elaine Boyd and to six feet of separation the publication by and four kids where we found Fletcher sleep meditation. Thanks to Chris Collin Alex Wong Lavar Burton musician West Swing Kelly Libby Libby. Antigen. Wang. Who helped with reporting for this show? And finally, big. Shout out to our friends at reply all who do a mean Colin show? Like this, we highly recommend you check out their episode old. Hello I'm Jaboomer Rod and I we will Miller thanks for listening the by. Is Grace calling from Chicago Illinois Radio lab was created by Jad album rod and is edited by Thorne Wheeler Lulu Miller, and lots of not there are co host. Dylan. Keefe is our director of sound design doozy Lechtenberg executives pretty. Our staffing include Simon Adler Jeremy Bloom Becca bressler Rachel Cue stick David Gable. That'll have T-. Tracy Hunt not guilty tobin low and in the Sarah, Tari area black hat walters, and molly webster with help from Shima Oli Sarah sound thought and Johnny. Fact Checker is Michelle Harris. So Hi my name is Anne McEwen I'm a producer at radio lab and I wanted to talk about this thing we do at Regula. I I. Like it. We have this thing it's a newsletter big surprise shows newsletter, but ours I think is Pretty Fun Oh. It's so fun. Matt guilty producer radio. What is your favorite part of the newsletter? My favorite part of the newsletter is I. It's getting it and seeing it in my inbox and then second it's opening and third is just hitting page down on my keyboard till I get to the very bottom email. You know it's at the bottom of the email. Staff. Fix It. which is like how great is that? It's great stuff stuff that we like stuff window what are your favorites? Some of his picks there was the one video where it was like seventeen babies on a hamster wheel. Really. Are the article about the guy who eight seventeen burritos. Okay What's your favorite Steph pick my favorite one ever. Well, it's hard to say one of my favorite ones ever was Robert Talking in delightful detail about the great sausage duel of eighteen sixty, five classic sick Molly's Bedbug. Pajamas. That was a scary. Tracy's pastor recipe which I did not make because I. Don't really cook but I'm just proud of her actually it's it's really simple. This is online. Announced Candidates Mehta's five tablespoons of butter a pins assault an onion, and you cook it in a pan for forty five minutes. All right. Thank you Tracy until you? Everybody's loving positive. Definitely that woman this guy sure this wonderful. Tasty Pasta. Every. Day. 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Hour 3 - Adam Sandler (04-13-20)

The Dan Patrick Show

43:29 min | 1 year ago

Hour 3 - Adam Sandler (04-13-20)

"Hi there I'm Zach Braff. Donald face on we're real life best friends. We met playing fake life. Best Friends Turk and J D on the Sitcom scrubs twenty years later. We Watch the series one episode at a time and put our memories into a podcast. You can listen to it home. We're going to get all our special guests friends like Sarah Chalk. John C McGinley. Neil Flynn Judy. Reyes show Creator Bill. Lawrence Editors Writers and even prompt masters would tell us about what inspired the series and how we became a family. You can to the podcast. Fake Doctors Real Friends with Zach and Donald on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. And wherever you get your podcasts Ester Dean and I'm excited to welcome you to a brand new season of Song Land and Sung lands podcasts. We have an amazing roster talent this season. I promise you you don't WanNa miss one single episode. Don't miss men Monday nights at ten nine central on NBC. And Join US your Song Lantz podcast available every week after the show on the IHEART or wherever you get your podcast. You are listening to the Dan Patrick. Show on Fox sports radio. So they're doing great work in that they are sorry about those guys the rim shot. They're doing great work. The Big German is here Dylan Allen the IT Marvin and rob the Inter. That's it and you. They're at home. If you're watching or listening doing both we appreciate you joining us. Yes Bong just to give people an idea what we do here. Alan the guy who also does a lot of technical stuff. A lot of technical stuff at the rate would be the. It part is Joan but he also does some radio stuff. I look in the break I. It is raining sideways. The winds about thirty five miles an hour. It's not a monsoon. But it's monsoon ish outside and Allen's outside on the smokers when I said Hey I needed to frost these sausages and I said how do I do it he goes? Why can go outside? I said no no brad weather. He goes now on fire up the trigger. So He's out there. He's you know it looks like that newscaster. Who's holding onto the lamppost? While there's a tornado or hurricane that's what he's doing but hey I needed some food and he's fired up the traeger there so I appreciate that we will give you our best and worst of the weekend. That'll be coming up a lot of fun this weekend watching. Cbs With Phil Tiger reminiscing about winning. The masters I thought. Tiger yesterday was that was great. Great entertainment and really insightful. Of what you're thinking in the moment and let Tiger for Tiger to allow us in. That was pretty good. Drew brees NBC. I don't know when I was told that he was gonNA play one more year and then he was going to NBC and ESPN was involved. Fox was involved. I thought he was going to take the Monday night job. And if you're going to do that then you're not going to be playing this year because it feels like ESPN's got to do something on Monday night. Feels like they have to make a change. Well are you gonNA make a temporary change? You can't get into. Let's make another change and then another change you and then. I started to wonder about drew brees. He'll be in the studio with Rodney and Tony and Mike tirico. But are they grooming him to eventually take over for? Chris. Collins Worth College worth is sixty one and he's not going anywhere at least I don't think so Al Michaels. I think Al will do the Super Bowl in Los Angeles and then Mike Tirico will take over the play by play duties. But I think that'll be by choice that AL wants to be able to do that. Super Bowl in Los Angeles. A home game for him. And then maybe that's all he's going to do. I think my Tariq Oh is going to do some games on Sunday night so maybe Al doesn't do a full schedule. Trico do some of those games and then eventually move into that seat and work with Chris. Collin toward. I don't know if drew brees is I think you had the luxury of having drew brees there that maybe four five years down the road you could put him in the booth. If Chris Collins work decided he didn't WanNa to do it anymore but collins worse at the top of his game and so he's out but those were things that I was wondering about with breeze. I was told that if was going to be the backup to peyton manning. If they didn't get Peyton manning where they didn't get Romo Peyton manning than they were looking at drew brees. Could you convince drew brees if the saints weren't this good? I think you could have gotten drew brees for Monday night football but if I'm drew brees one more super bowl would be huge for his legacy huge. The team's too good to walk away and you know he's playing at a good level not a great level but a good level and is that level enough for this team to win a super bowl. This year drew already. Has His future broadcast job. Then that's with NBC. So you've taken care of that because there's only so many jobs there's a lot of people but there's only so many of those jobs if you get one a coveted job hold on for dear life and I understand why Jason witten decided to retire and take Monday night. He wasn't ready for that but we found that he wasn't ready for retirement. Either mean retirement forever. You know. That's the thing when you retire from football. That's it and then all of a sudden you go you know. I'm thirty six and that's it. I think he looked around and said this isn't something I do well and let me go back and play now. He's with the raiders though. I don't know if you'll get back into this Jay Cutler Jay Cutler's bored to death. Just watch very cavalieri and you realize but maybe that's what he wants to do because they're Fox's looking at well what do we do? Charles Davis just got promoted. Dan fouts who was let go by CBS. There's there's movement in in this little world but if you get one of those coveted jobs hold on for dear life and drew brees in the studio three analysts. Okay I mean you look at the other pre game shows i. I wanted more from less people than I gotta go to you and then go to you and then go to you have to get everybody's opinion on something and I don't think that's great TV as much as drew would be great to tune in to see and listen to. Sometimes you have to acquiesce to everybody in there and not everybody has a great point. Yeah Paul isn't ESPN and Monday night. Football a weird position because they got Romo or breeze or manning they could have changed the entire booth this year now they may have to go into another year with the status quo. Guys they have and hope to try it again. Next year with with a breeze are now off the table or manning or something. I think you might be able to get Philip rivers. I think Philip rivers be pretty good there. But you can't go okay. We're not going to bring back Joe. Tessa tour and Booger McFarland. So we're GONNA put in Dan Orlovsky. Louis RIDDICK and Steve Levy Okay. But then you do that for one year and then are you gonNa make a change again if somebody comes available. I mean I'd be curious. If you put in Levy Orlovsky and Louis Riddick who I do like their stars have risen and I think they have sharp commentary and Levy is very good at landing the planes there but they tried to hard. They tried to hard with Monday night. Football put in Dennis Miller in as funniest. Dennis is you have to set him up they were trying to create Howard. Cosell Don Meredith and Frank Gifford. Then you can't you can't it's sportscenter was trying to recreate what. Obermann and I did you. Can't you create something different? And maybe it's better but you can't create that it just happens. You can't create Dick vitale. You can't create Chris Berman. You have to develop other talent and Monday night. Football and a lot of it's luck you just stumble into it. We gotta have Tony Kornheiser in there as brilliant as Tony Is. He wasn't good in the booth. And then you bring in jaws because Tony Likes working with Rhonda Were Ski. It just doesn't work and then Mike Torikoshi trying to set them. You're trying to call a game and have somebody just interject. I mean that's why Romo works. Because gymnast doesn't to set him up he he jumps in jumps out Chris Collins were jumps in Jim Sound. But if I have to set you up like it's night at the Improv. That's really hard to pull off and Dennis Miller is very bright and knows football but it just felt like you kind of went to him. 'cause you were forced to go to him and the same with Tony Kornheiser. Just put somebody in there. Who Does the game and does it? Well does it correctly. That's all I think we'd get to the point where we'd go that's it. I'm good just do it correctly. Do it right. No Bells and whistles you know what makes for Great Broadcasting Team Great Games and that helps that helps you can add to a game. Sometimes you can subtract from a game as well. I phone calls coming up. Adam Sandler will join us as well. Best and worst to the weekend We got a winner on fritzy scoreboard. We do this every day. Fritzy puts up numbers here home and away and then we give away. Dp Show Gear Shaun Pearson Oregon. The big winner and the numbers were won and eleven and they have to do with animals. Is that right todd? Animals or animal and a mole if that helps okay. Do you WanNa give another hint here. Since we do have a winner. Bad bad technology broadcast okay. Animals animal this in the Horse Game Animal got the Animal Park. Now one in eleven. Is that a score at Jersey. Numbers is the outcome of one of the Games of horse. I only watched a little bit. Chauncey billips upsetting trae young one analyst over night. That didn't turn out the way I think paulie envisioned they rushed and we wanted social media. We didn't want it to be televised waiting. We you know if you if you got all these guys involved in it and you needed other guys involved. If if you had you know Damian Lillard yet Lebron James in there to me that would have been a little bit better and we had little lawn. And he said he'd like to do it but social media would've been better than just trying to broadcast it that way and I got. I hope trae young gets a phone deal and we got hooked him up. Because I don't know what he was using a side kicker something but that was not technology wise that was not pristine. Yes phone you also line the difference in what players make for their careers playing the WNBA versus the being. Mike Conley has a home gym. That looks like the Lakers practice facility and then to be catching she's got. She's got like a two car garage and a you know just a a hoop outside like a normal house new just like the rest of us. They could've held it. You know we could have taken. I could have taken part in this with the man cave that we have here. I got a home court advantage. Here that've been nice all right best of the weekend. Todd I'll start with you best of the weekend Rhonda Rousing Lighting Up. Wwe Fans. I don't know if you saw somebody's quote. She was wild ride. Which diva rather spend time with the family? Bleeping ungrateful fans. Don't appreciate her but at the end of the day. I was like bleep. These fans dude. I'm going to spend time with my family my worse than the weekend oil. Kobe cake with age of twenty five suffered a brain bleed earlier in the week. So I don't understand the Ronda Rousey thing I I think. Isn't she the villain? Then she understand that you get booed because you're the villain like is she. Is She in character here by yelling at the fans? I I'm not sure I I'm I forgot about round around you like we moved on from that but I don't watch wrestling but when I saw that she was upset with the fans. You get booed if you're doing your job. As the he'll I'm guessing mclovin best and worst s obviously the debut of the show Belgravia on epochs. Which is the follow to Downton Abbey? It is saucy Victorian action. Dan saucy worse is going to be Paul Pierce his effort in horse. Against Zach Levine. I've never seen like exactly like college. You know hit the backboard on a layup and Pearson even get there was. I was waiting for a wheelchair to come out and get Paul Pearson. Take him off the floor. Yeah Paul see but that was the problem with the entire competition you put a guy who's a dunk contest champion against a retired NBA player. They can't do the same moves. But if you had Damian Lillard against Victor Oladipo. They can do similar move. Poll it at my age. I could do with Zach Levine. Did where you throw it off the backboard and then you score and he was tapping it off the backward tap it on one side. Bring it around the ball. Yeah well they. They should have taken taken away anything that was in three feet of the basket that maybe that would have helped. Paul Pierce their see no connor junior. The third. My worst weekend was forced but we just sort of went over that. Except for my favorite part of course was actually the seasickness that came with it or motions. The cameras were just sort of just like yours is right now Look I'm GONNA shoot this. Well trae young shoot he. He had degree of difficulty because it was windy. At least I think it was but it was really some shoddy camerawork. They're my best dish for the weekends in that. I'll give it like a really. Solid effort was Snl This weekend trying to go zoom. There was some pretty good moments in that and I actually. I really liked going to Tom. Hanks to opening monologue pretty good. Yup in San man had a song as well. He'll join US coming up. Paulie best worst best of the weekend. Jim Nance Tiger Woods walking through the masters last year. Tigar was unbelievable. Memory talk about Frencesco Molinari's on the twelfth hole where Molinari puts in the drink and he goes tigers telling us all sudden is little breeze comes in and the breezes coming towards our faces and I look at my caddie and I look back at the guys teeing off like boy. This could go the wrong way. I'm glad I'm not teeing off I and Molinari puts in the water and they didn't want to react. You don't WanNa rap but inside you're like tiger saying I'm celebrating in my head like I got an opening here worst of the weekend. The XFL shuttering the doors. It doesn't look like it's going to ramp up next year bad timing but you have the I f the AF gone bad last year in the xfl going bad this year. Yeah I don't see somebody trying to do one of these leagues anytime soon but the XFL suspended operations on Friday afternoon. And it doesn't look like there's a plan for it to come back and unlike the American Alliance of football the XFL appeared to be on solid footing. It was it seemed like at a better plan. It was better run. The AF did not have a good infrastructure there but you know like other businesses couldn't survive the pandemic here and probably is the end of the XFL and it'll go down as an admirable experiment but much better than the version that was back in two thousand and one. I like the in game interviews. I thought that that was interesting. I like the open communications. And I think that that's something that the NFL certainly monitored and I don't know if you can implement that but you know the truth is spring. Football's always going to be challenging now the USFL had success back in the eighties because they paid big stars to play in the USFL. But that couldn't last because they had a quicker time table where they wanted to challenge the NFL or have some teams absorbed by the NFL. Because I looked at the USFL the way I did the ABA. They did some fun things. And you had some star power and I thought a couple of those teams were going to be brought into the NFL. But you know three year window. You know you WANNA speed this up. Because everybody wants to make their money or get their money back. But the two experiments failed and I'm sure one day somebody else will try. I know that we love football but I we like good football. And if you have something that's a feeder system and it looked like the XFL had figured that out. They they maybe had that silent partnership with the NFL. They had networks. Who were carrying the Games and paying them. That was another thing the AF didn't get money from their TV partners. It's like hey here's some content to fill and that was it whereas the xfl Vince McMahon. Put a lot of money into this. And I'm wondering dea try it again. Did you see an was it successful? I think that would be the question I would ask. If I'm Vince. Mcmahon and I walk into my soldiers and say what's a successful and if you get a partnership with the NFL then your gold your great. I mean we. We don't go out of our way to watch the CFL and the NFL is better football than the XFL. But you know it's like Oh we gotta have football and more football. I love watching the NFL. It's entertaining but I don't hear people CFL has been around for decades and it's a better quality better product that I don't hear anybody saying hey gotta watch CFL. Xfl We're going to. We don't even know these players you at least have established stars in the NFL but nobody goes out of the way to go blind gotta watch the NFL for some reason. The novelty of the XFL. All right we're going to watch and then some of the things that they did the innovations I applaud them. But it wasn't you know must see tv not at all all right. We'll take a break poll question Mark Levin and by the way tomorrow morning at nine am eastern are artists the street artist. Rc will come in. He did all the beautiful murals in the man cave back in the field house. And we're going to change over Tom Brady to cream sickle Tom. I gotTa Patriots Presentation on Tom Brady. They're beautiful artwork. We're going to change it over. Put Him in a Tampa Bay cream sickle uniform. Yes mclovin okay. The hour to pull was which quarterback would be excited to draft fifty one percent like Justin Herbert over to I still like I still like the upside of to NYC. There's a fascination with that but man with the those injuries follow you. I know that just in Herbert I believe is pretty clean here. We've seen this hour came on. And then he ran down a list of quarterbacks injured in college and got injured in the pros like it it follows you and that would be the biggest concern. I have with two. Is this something where you're going to be injury prone or is this an aberration that that's the big question I have? But I don't buy into this. He's throws better than Dan Marino. Aaron Rodgers or he's the next drew brees he's not and that's not fair to compare them to those guys because he's not the next drew brees and he doesn't throw better than Aaron Rodgers or Dan Marino and certainly not Dan Marino when he came into the NFL twenty after the hour. Adam Sandler will join US coming up next here on the Dan. Patrick show thanks for listening to the Dan. Patrick Show podcast be sure to catch. Us Live every weekday morning nine to noon eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox sports radio. Find your local station for the Dan. Patrick show at Fox sports radio DOT COM or stream. It live every day on the iheartradio APP by searching F s. Our support for the Dan. 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I was happening there. And then she. She pushed me whatever Then I go back to thinking of some of my great jokes and I just. I can't lock it down then a bad movie ever right Dan. Those kids are you. Are you watching movies or chose yes? What do you want last night? We watched Steve Martin but we Keeps on different little. Keep showing old movies that I grew up with and half of the time it works. I you know how about you. Dan even watch a lot of obese. Yeah I have no. I've actually been watching some TV shows. I watched Ozark I watched. I'm watching this documentary on Sunderland. The soccer stuff it's primarily. Well they used to be in the premier league but it's a documentary Sunderland until I die which is Pretty good so I watch Ozark fleabag. Have you seen playback? I don't know free. Everyone loves it. Oh my God. That woman is spectacular. I heard my wife loves it? I got this. I gotta see this missing out of misses a lot of stuff. I got the bag I watch. I would also I know I'm going to watch that. Do Do you have a? Can you step outside? 'cause you're your phone is a little spotty here. What's that it's not worth on a little spotty here? Okay let me go into another go to your verandas deck. I'm on the ski. Slopes that gave me that joke. One time I was doing. Let's wait you're you're crapping out there to Jesus Christ. I'm sorry okay. How about this this better known for right now the first five seconds? Okay hang on. Let me stay there. It is yeah. Maybe it's perception okay. Where's okay you're all right. We'll try that your gear. Good thank you Danny. Sorry about okay and I saw the songs that you did you did Corentin Song Dutch. Don't touch grandma with Jimmy. Fallon Quarantine Song is a WHO? Plays could go up. And I said I've been getting a lot of requests for Song I said you got me ideas and two days later. The Guy Sends me that sucker. That's called the phone. And then don't touch grandma. That was Jimmy Fallon and he him in Israel. Writers wrote that. That was fun Let me Let the audience here just a little bit of. Don't touch grandma anything you want to say and setting this up. Yeah I we had to record it separately and uh and I was supposed to turn and look at look at Jimmy and disarm And When I turn I turn and I look at nobody because look to say. Where's the that's the only but the rest of the great all right? Thank you Jimmy Fallon for writing that soccer fouling can do a lot of impersonations of musicians like like he does. You does Neil Young. I think Spring Stang. Do you think that fallon could record as he ever thought of recording an album of these artists that he imitates absolutely yeah? He should crush that but he basically basically has. He's done so many shows could just put put a compilation together and Yeah I mean yeah. He can tease pretty pretty serious. Posted Impressions Man. Yeah he he. He's good but if you were going to be quarantined with any comedian who would you want to be fourteen with one hundred percents nor McDonald really? Why because we've done it before we've done it. Before each. He thought an atom bomb was coming one which we stayed dated a condo together kept going that yet. Stay Low. Wait a minute. He actually thought it was the end of the world but But no I think I'd have fun with more. Mcdonald's I think we we we get along good together. We're good kinda roommate so we give and take you know. Yeah he's he's pretty funny. Who would be tough to be quarantined with of all the COMEDIANS A good question You Know David Spade would be the moodiest. He's he he'd be the funniest one second. And then the next second he'd be like you know that's my toast. I'd say I it's Passover and he'd say what's Passover when I'd have to explain it again well plus there's no women around two so he'd be in a bad mood because of that. Well that's true. That's true. Did you ever work with cash now? Just forgot his name. Now Dave Chapelle. Did you ever do anything with Chapelle? I know but we might do something someday. Chris Rock's men talked about the movie. The three of us. So we'll see. I know I know your house. She's a kid and he was always a great kid and I remember when I did Billy Madison. I did that with this guy. Bob Simon's his producer. He's the guy who got it all for me and in the movies and Like a couple of years into we were Bob's office and Chapelle and think it might have been his buddy. Neil gave were at the office and they were making half bake would with Bob and I remember just just seeing how excited they were. 'cause like I was young I see how long on occasion but we'd never done anything saw him He he wanted to mark Twain humanitarian or humorous to whatever it was it was the Mark Twain Award and they had all those comedians that came out and paid tribute to him. Yes but the fact that he walked away for didn't go to Africa for twelve years or something I don't know they did a while though Came back and took over. Yeah he's Great. He's a good guy finding smarter cell. I consider either. That's on right. Yeah Yeah it was. It's it's pretty good. There are some pretty funny stuff on there I did not see Chris. Rock on there. I saw Sarah Silverman. Oh Yeah Yeah there is. There's a whole group of people that are common was they're doing it saw like they're just it's a wide variety of people who pay tribute to speaking Sarah Silverman. I I was in that benefit Charity poker game Saturday and And he didn't send anybody 'cause was on the Internet but you just saw their names who playing against it. How many chips that have a silver? Don't believable poker. Yeah she was way up there on the board she. She was leading the pack for a while. But you never dated her growing up right now. No I knew her sister Laura but she was in my class and no never dated but I knew the Silverman's very well very my. My parents and his parents were good friends too. So it'd be ethic. Larry Scrape people. Do you have. Can you shoot hoops at your house? Twenty I can but I haven't. I stopped the last month. I just stopped playing because my back and knees Rican so much I haven't been doing. How about you Danny? Moving around at all it. Just smoke cigars well night. I smoked scars but And Tequila but I got the man cave here I got the I got my My dojo believable. It's unbelievable did last night. I cranked music and watch my wife. Stretch come on stretch you need to. I kept on doing the great. And he's doing great. Were strict. Unless you're like damn you're an idiot and what did you crank? I crank All I put on Spotify pop pits so I played the youthful tunes that were going and singing. I never mind you miss the joke. You know. You're t o your so called crank. They're always like what are you doing? So your mom never said Adam what are you doing there? Are you cranking always cranking? Do you need a care package? We we have some new t shirts. I know that you only wear t shirts we have some. We got a Tom. Brady tee-shirt it's called Tampa Bay. That's cool that's cool. Yes I want. You want larger extra-large X. No yes have you go now. I am even what are you? What are you supposed to weigh at five one? Eighty five okay. Well then are you a two spins. I'm a I'm I would shape. I guess right now to to wait right now and And I wear double x t shirts where you were when I was gone through all my stuff. I was down to one eighty eight and I was wearing a medium. Now I'm large but I'm about wearing a medium at your. It's only your what six two. Yeah Yeah I was doing medium and then now I I'm back up to large. I'm one ninety eight. Is your belly button show on the medium though? No I actually had like a two pack by the way I got this new act and I've been doing it. I just not eating right but I'm doing pretty good It's called just six weeks and I push ups and sit ups and Johnson stuff. Yeah and man. I might not gonNA push ups album. I I can't believe yeah but you're not doing it. No I am doing go. How good I look. If I lost sixty Batman's I would look so good right now but by objet my arms at Talbott Bolger I just. I just a cupboard in a little thick skin. What else are you doing today? What's the schedule today at the sand? So I gotTa talk to the Safti brothers and we're writing right now. Wait another movie after movie. Show some doing hope movies. I talked to you about you're going to be. It's a it's a. I'm playing a scout. I scouted a kid from Over in Spain basketball player for NBA. Yeah it's cool it's cool. Lebron's Preuss and And so doing that then. How often do you talk to Lebron about this? We don't talk about it. Which is just ahead. I mean I don't WanNa Bother Lebron right now. Not doing anything leave a bottle. Let him rest. He's got he's got stuff coming in. You have Lebron's number. I don't think so I don't think so. I think if I made a few I I've made a few phone calls. I can use it at least three at a repetition. Maybe two one three or now. I'm sure I can get lebrons not breezy. Because we're we're GONNA talk to the Safdie brothers got another project you've got another movie or to Zoom Call. Tomorrow night you WANNA get on with WHO? It's all comedians know. Why shouldn't be on a call with Comedians Yeah? Pta's going to on it to like texted. Yesterday it's come on come on come on the call. It's GonNa be fun. We're zooming away comedians. Pta Teddy from from Netflix loves those again. Big Big big deal. They're our maybe but Paul Thomas Anderson by the way. Pta for those in the inner circle there. Did he respond to you that I wanted him on the show? I just thought a hello and then he said. Where are you talking? That was Zuma Tuesday night so I was going to bring up Tuesday. Sounds like it's an no but I'm GonNa send you some shirts here. I Have Double X. But I don't know it's not a note I want I'm GonNa give you. Excels is motivation here. I need you know it'd be. How did you send me one of each okay? Just WANNA BE PSYCH. But the bland color. Make THE DOUBLE. X. And then the color you know I would love make the show but I literally I wore exile maybe in the last twenty five years and I know maybe maybe three or four months of that. I got down to the right. Wait for an exile. What pants do you have on today? Right now the short shorts really the string is broken. The the IT sucked I. I've been doing laundry here. You know that could. I haven't gotten a laundry since. Nyu days whatever. My Wash. Everything shrunk could tighten disgusting and people screaming at me. Let me do it. Just don't touch the machines. I don't think you're closer shrinking. Hey Yeah you don't don't don't don't hang up on me. Yeah I did Shoko yesterday. Up Around Eleven. Fifteen and then. I saw this giant bag of chips. But I'm the bag. It's it less and I couldn't read put something like must be j. d. bag of chips. I did eat about three quarters of it and then I left some crumbs for the keep cranking and I'll talk to say I love you and and we gotta do Zoom Kamara right. Yeah sure put me on. I'll try to help them all right. That's Adam Sandler. We'll take a break last call for phone calls right up to this. Thanks for listening to the Dan. Patrick Show podcast sure to catch. Us Live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox sports radio and you can find us on the iheartradio APP at Fsr or it live every day at youtube dot com slash. The Dan Patrick. Show looking for a new podcast. Who isn't taste is well. If you want real stories about love commitment marriage and hope stories that will help you. Through the strangest of times look no further than season. Four of the committed podcast. It's a storytelling adventure. About what really happens. After I do hosted by me Jo Piazza more. We're all still stuck in the house. There are three whole seasons of committed for you to binge three available on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you like to listen to your podcasts. Last call for phone calls Madden South Carolina. Hey Matt would he have for me today? Hey what's up? Dp Best of the weekend worst of the weekend just not having a Master's. Espn put out a little monologue with right Thompson. Who I know you love as well just brought a tear to my about all the tradition that is Kinda lost right now and really hoping we get back in November best of the weekend they hat cave Derby Underdog Spiral Ham. Finally getting into the winners circle. It's been a long time coming to the HAM and at times like this. It's just nice to get a win. All right thank you. Yeah Right Thompson. The wrote a beautiful beautiful article about Gusta that dude can write he bob in Florida. Hey Bob Woody out for him. I ate two cheeseburgers under two hundred pounds. Thanks to Cova social isolation and my best and the worst of the weekend are masters rewind was my best. No Masters Live was my worst suggestion for your moral Merrill Okay Tampa Bay Residents would rather see Tom in the The new color rush uniform rather than the cream sickle uniform. Can you make that happen though? No I but thank you know it's cream sickle. Tom's going into the cream circle uniform. That's it I made the executive decision and I made people have suggested maybe having Tom Brady in. Tampa Bay t shirt instead of a football uniform. We start the mural tomorrow with Tom Brady in the cream sickle uniform Paulie. This team sports history. Got A few Jack Nicklaus on this date at age forty six masters one thousand nine hundred seven Eldrick Tiger Woods won the masters at age twenty one and see something for This Day in history twenty years ago. Today it was when Metallica sued napster over the rights of downloading music. Think of how crazy the reaction of that was then versus what we're living in now. Napster founder results of the poll question mclovin. Who'd you be more excited about two or Herbert fifty four percents to Fritzy? What did you learn on today's program? The SANDMAN would pick nor McDonnell and community. Most enjoyed being quarantined with mclovin. I think the bengals according to Jack Taylor are going to take Joe Borough. Yeah feels like that unless look leave. Your options open seating O'Connor San man's going to be shredded and just six weeks I don't think Paulie what did you learn today Travis. Kelsey has nothing to do today. Todd what did I learn on today's program? 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Episode 19: Holy Polio

The Patdown with Ms. Pat

46:43 min | 2 years ago

Episode 19: Holy Polio

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Hey it's white boy chris. If pat-downs ever made you laugh then join our patriotic and support us get bonus content a t shirt or an autograph copy of rabbit but miss pats autobiography visit ms pat comedy dot com for the link to the patriot and while you're there join our facebook group welcome to another episode of the pat-downs i'm still in l._a. But i'm i'm hanging out with my good friend chris. They what it is whiteboard chris what it is miss pat. I wanted to get you something. Fucking the last episode we had to re record or she was so stunned by how wide i couldn't say show. You're right beyond ancient. You just go black homework. You know what that means so you're right. I hate you hate eight to me. You know what give it up means. Hello are you unit when they say give it up getting robbed. Okay break yourself boo style. I just thought y'all stay tuned. After the musical dima crazy better food black fitting the real facts the class that play that same line the real equal tax on spin. It's hard to really you can't play signed up nothing. The funds will listen to this tuck. Puny tweeted retain take up. How would you say i want to talk about vaccinations. I have a close friend who ooh not going to vaccinate your kids know what to do so i'm coming to you to give some advice on how i should go about talking to her about vaccinate and her daughter order. That's fucking intelligence. Keep them away from all keys. Wow have no kids. Come so keep not will you ask me for my kids vaccinated their medicaid. If i get cut off a welfare taking food i don't care about they will be worried about eating about the new mode. We gotta go get him. Get josh ah y'all shot. They're gonna cut my shit. I love it. I really need to know what to do. Ms pat ah it turned into. She not even all welfare's fucking matter. I can tell you this. I kept my shots up. My key shots up all the time and i remember one time. My jackson came to atlanta joy to perform for like a healed a key tour and so if your kids will behind on their shots if you took them to get a shot you got a free michael jackson ticket to go see him live in atlanta georgia nineteen eighty seven eighty eight some shit like that and i was so so piece because i was caught up on my fucking baby shots and i couldn't get no fucking take good luck out laughing at. I was fucking your bad. They were caught up on their event. The chickenpox vaccine bad. I was responsible and took them to get their shots when they were supposed to instead of waiting for michael jackson tickets yeah i could get no fucking michael jackson. You know me. I'm selling crack at time. So autocrat kat took daycares. Mike jets taking sold a michael jackson ticket for craig nigga. We're front row take. I'm role motherfucking tickets to see michael j. I was i want him to call. My key is really nick. Oh my when we other students. My kids saw michael jackson. I was i guess the michael jackson and our crack is took kids getting their shots caught up there year so i don't know maybe i just gotta get a tool for your friend and get some fucking says probably in the meantime tour now you you want to get do a hologram too but i don't know i don't understand why people don't vaccinate their kids this day right but i'd say if you don't want to vaccinate your kids and you know all this sheet is out here in the world then keep your fucking kid at home with you and y'all spray the t._b. Into the t._v.'s in h._i._v. h._i._v. <music> kids sexually transmitted to see the gonorrhea claps to crabs. Y'all keep the house. If you want to get your kids back. Tell them sarah what i don't want to get. The baby vaccinated donated she black. She's not black. She's white. She thinks that vaccinations cause other problems and i'm like well you you died causing the problem that you causing the dionne fran. If you listen to this bitch you motherfucker walmart would have a plastic has the bag on my hair because you ain't vaccinate laconic motherfucking spreading the motherfucker hepatitis version of whereas met suit right. I think if you don't get your child vaccinated. We need a stamp on a full head. Say watch out mandatory stamping yeah. That's too far what the libertarianism acting up to what i said. The libertarianism and chris is acting up again government mandating four or or the arm now the christians coming out yet. Christianity is coming up. We charleston go to daycare with my child if he's not vaccinated. That's not fair. That's not fair. I mean that's okay. I look at vaccination like having s. t. a. series like h._i._v. You should be able to have sexual people and not tell them what you got if it's something that could kill them a childhood disease can cutie key if your child vaccinated fascinating no keep your dirty as baby house and i don't want dirty babies around dirty babies ladies around. I wanna fuck dirtiest baby around me. Get you got but that show right but i'm just saying you should be gable to you shouldn't be able to bring your something should be done about you. Bring your kid to school with other kids that have not been fascinated and i don't want you motherfucker egging me. It's what i believe in a. I'm not saying you gotta do it. I'm just giving you my opinion on any. If you don't want to get your baby shots fine when your baby catch the holy polio what what the fuck you get. That's the name of holy i mean when you baby all hala polio they go need shot the shit out of holy polio baby go get and you get that motherfucker them three shots for holy polio <music> polio. Turn your left-footed hokey. You don't apoyo tearing the baby polio. Do what it's all about. They give you a polio. Make your feet turn. Don't like paralyzes you. That's what f._d._r. But don't make your feet tyranny. You fucking coffee gonna be on backwards <music>. Go get him got down shot while you're walking backwards because it's fucking tolls behind him yeah but that's you're right. That's the right y'all got. Y'all do own a fuck. I wanna do child. My child is fucking fascinated alum alum now i will say i slipped up in sar plays. My son aint circuit whole hood on his date but we working on getting that oh baby deep but who they never heard about what bit you had to peel it back and sunk so mo- power tool. I know perfect mommy the somebody sucking hoodie take my son klu klux klan uh-huh killing beaches. We'll read by django now. Who cut these back so i mean i and i didn't get it because i'm jewish and i don't believe you should take the top d. I didn't get him searching cyber. Call now when he went to go when he was born somebody getting cut out at the house bill so we had to bring him back and i was in jail when his appointment thing uh-huh but i've been trying to get cut off so i don't know grown man why grammar no fucking get band aid on top of the i don't know but what about the other son oh he resigned. He was born on healthcare. Okay all right yeah. They made the medicaid babies. Come make for dick appointments speaking of healthcare. Did you hear about the indian man who have five hundred and thirty sixteenth sixteenth in his mouth. What jesus the negative say cheese cheese for a long time. He had a tumor humor in his mouth. Oh that kim produce the made them just keep growing teeth and he had to have a seven hour surgery. I wanted his appetite pico because you only had the chew one yeah. He had to tell and a shit ton of t._d. Can you imagine him going down on autumn. Parana divet holes walking historic kennedys. How was busy. He wasn't that old. He was passed the baby teeth stage. I'll tell you that i can tell you that. Nigga kept the tooth fairy base no money that'd be there. You look like santa claus. Diseases kreis vowed the too far out of that new cross very what had to sell new dentist. Go okay open in jesus christ. He broke broke the fucking to fareed one hundred thirty six teeth and they were all the same tooth. What let just kept it was like the same style a two so it was like molar after molar after me wasn't he have different eight the molar teeth <hes> <hes> kim grump back he had the biton ones jesus christ faye nobody mouse. We've got five hundred thirty five t you won't get your way or so potty thirty six. You missed what he's looking for a recent not to feed you know what what was the yet of course i'm surprised that input no threat in his mouth and tournament to a sewing own machine. He's a loom uh-huh blankets bro. I doubt viz jersey thank in matthew jesus christ lotta fucking mouth yeah what would grow like in rows like man and he had it was it was on both sides of his face k. because they did an x ray became couldn't see all of them obviously because of the tumor but he had just in there on top of each other they were next to each other. It looked like a club in his mouth. Really i mean it was packed. No ado little i uh-huh club negative stadiums jesus christ. Are you looking at that. This is he okay knew that he did surgery yeah. I think he's got the regular amount will pay for the house bill. I just had two of my own not poor. David paid for that's it has a lot of the founder of the hospital said the surgery is free of cost raised jesus that that would have broke the whole country indie you you know how big his pillow would have to be to get all teeth. How was he chris. Let's see here. You know what i did the surgery free so they can have an instagram photo people do to put on the internet. Go viral doesn't say how old he was. The last record was two hundred thirty two teeth from mumbai teenagers john twenty fourteen what what was he at bloomberg mumbai two hundred and thirty two that was india india. India's were all of the weird like any here about like the baby grew another baby out of a ted. It was an india prize. There's a lot of medical fucking water and you grow you grow on your birth on topic choppy`oh got no room. I'm gonna say up here bro yeah. That's i won't go to india nine okay. I love that show slumdog millionaire. You remember that movie. Yeah boy fell initiate poem boy. Did i lay there was some funny she any m remind me so much being being in a ghetto boy. I remember day running bath fee on top of rocks. You don't feel oh god damn thing. I sold crack for a long time afoot because i hated shoes so i will put my shoes on a corner and i walked back and forth up and down the street in a one time the summertime it was somebody like to feel the fucking. He are the coal on my feet. Nagai tried this year in when i went to <hes> arizona just recently i slipped on my shoe as you thought i was in a five pete one hundred and fourteen degrees while she's still ahead in me but i bitch shoes who's been on my feet to the bottom of my feet came back to life as she knew killed me sooner on tony robbins fire oh yeah they do tony robbins fire yeah well you would never a white man could never treat me to run over hot rocks not for jesus christ not for mayor had a little lane not the same person the holy jesus in crisis dear jesus christ the same now now. The sun is jesus christ right yeah. His name was jesus. Sutherland jesus christ is daddy. No the easiest standing crisis not the daddy yeah no and then what was the name father i know father is the daddy. Most people people call him. God oh yeah snow. You didn't get it right. Hey i knew that child. Let's take a break. You want to take a breaks crazy. Oh time we'll talk about jesus. 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There's a million ways you can like. Take your oh. You ain't never kill yourself. I've tried to kill myself. Actually it's hard yeah. It's really asked about fo five bones broken his neck. I hear yeah. That was the first time when i was like okay. Maybe he did get killed when that coroner reporter whatever doctor said like this heine bone or whatever news miss neck was broken and it's it's like i didn't know we had a honeyball some hino hino bone or something in the neck that like it basically says that he was you know why he got killed because he was about to talk. Oh yeah tell everybody who liked baby puss. Did you see that picture day found in his house of bill clinton and monica lewinsky dress what the fuck was bad ed about heels you for real. Did you see the picture miss pat on ice. Get grab your phone right now and google clinton painting clinton pain jeffrey epstein. You need to see this picture. Well my heroes. Gotta be fucking dresses. I the big mama from big bombers martin. The sat out martin love martin which i have every episode. I'm gonna make that's part of your homework. I used to watch martin all the time yeah. That's a pain that one bill clinton for real no no. It was a painting yeah. It was painting of bill. Oh clinton what the fuck was wrong with. Jeff has well. Let's where do we begin with the kids. I was gonna say pedophile. Island is a good good start in the temple. I wanna do bill no. He had that pitcher him hillary painted. I was gonna say i'm pretty sure there's a signature on the back talk of seattle's me they say hillary's snuck in and broke his neck the ones you had the beard mustache. It looks like freddie mercury a jesus christ boy. I think the richer you get the mo- freaky in crazy you you get. It's like you just run out of regular. People shit to do the rules. Don't apply the more money you have right so you can just get crazy and cry. I'm not going do that when i give me a lot of money. I'm already crazy. I was about to say that. This is some crazy shit to be running. I don't understand the rich they they really they. They they treat me to fuck out cha. I don't understand this guy had an island with a temple on on it. Did you see the temple must pat temple. He had like this building this concrete building painted with weird stripes and a gold dome and it was like some some sort of oh yeah google did he get out at money from so basically people think he got it from extorting rich people because he was a trader red bear stearns and then got fired under mysterious circumstances and then started like managing people's money and took total control of the money of all these rich people like the victoria's secret guy basically lost his negga had the taj mahal oh his island yes and it has like beds nailed to the wall all inside somebody's fluid drone on there he had just like three three months ago had a concrete mixer truck delivered to the island and and paid cash for it so we'd get there sooner he had all kinds of arrays the case bail ties my hope ah so he got super-rich because he was just blackmailing super rich people like the building that he owned it in manhattan was bought for him by the victoria's secret guy and then he had all of his staff. All of his lawyers key is he did not have kids. I don't think he was married. Who get out at money now. Well all the people. He has started getting their money back yeah. They're suing all the girls. There's like at least one hundred girls that have sued them over the years like for underage sex. They're also doing him for his money. I don't understand so wh what okay so as six did. He was just out on as prostitutes in some cases as yeah like he would. He had a couple females. That would like find girls for through like hey you wanna come model. They shoved model and this is a fairly common paul. Oh yeah like you show up so gary on you show to acting on the modest she she can model basements so you show up and they basically like. Do you want to make some extra money and he would basically say hey. Do you want to make caroni massaging me and then he ended up having sex with how you know. He say massage was on while the footage on the pat down. We're we're breaking news footage. No so that's that's basically like every girl he had all these now under that temple is apparently his office and an auditorium mm-hmm and did you get the temple entity so he has a._m. You you you couldn't penetrate it with like sonar or heat-seeking or anything anything it was like deep underground and it's like some people are saying that's where like a bunch of satanic rituals took place and that's what the auditorium was so. That's the whole that that ah to me. That is the brand new ania. I don't know when it was bill but it's pretty uses. Oh yeah and nobody knows for what i don't get it. I don't like that joan deck that donald top chunky dick the short chunky picture in the pat down groups. We see what we're talking about. If you don't already know this is crazy so apparently lee he killed himself in prison onto cy watch after being attacked earlier in the week so it's attack so basically he was in you. Gotta losing your inbox attack. You look just like the guy i did not see the cellmate was this former cop on trial or who had been charged and convicted of murder and this this cop looks like massively bill. I don't know who sneak in him steroids but he was enormous black or white he was white and it was a cop and leave. Kill somebody and actually went to jail for it. It's a miracle and so they they don't know if he beat them up or not. That's not been cleared but he called for help open. He tried to commit suicide apparently by three weeks before he killed him finally. Why would they put him in a sale bingo racist. I think been pedophile defiles if you're in prison if near pedophile things don't go well for you. I don't understand why he wasn't made a special k like they should. They should have put him in one of those david blame boxes in the magician david blaine. He should have just been in a glass case constantly streaming laugh so we feed them once a day he you don't need to go outside for you. Put some air holes in it so he don't suffocate until his trial because he knew all people did all that shit. We needed that information mation you should we should made a special case for his deal. Just cut his head open read his brain so he the basically they took them off suicide watch because they didn't have the money that guards who were supposedly guarding him had been on overtime and worked eighty hours already and just basically didn't check on them for hours left the the the god who put on twitter that said <hes> a special truck came in and took him away yeah. I don't believe he's day. I believe i i believe that was an stein of whatever that man name difference thing epstein. I believe that's where i that's where i get all my special special mangoes abba lead. That was a fake bad in eastern living on the island. Have you seen the photos. There was a photo leak that day of him being pulled out of the hospital or going into the hospital from the ambulance and supposedly like the nose has a big curve but epstein signed a straight nose so the heard the same thing the day michael jackson died right. I saw those fake videos of michael. Jackson walks out of hospital like whether he's dead or not there should be enough evidence within his house in his on his computers for us to find out what the fuck was going on that he he died the day okay. We won't find out for thirty years later. In the day. They <hes> unsealed. Some of his court. Documents was the day he quote unquote killed himself and like cruel epstein epstein epstein the day they released documents that told us some of the people who went out to this pedophile island like prince charles brother. Prince prince andrew a bunch of other super rich people. I want to do that kind of sheet when i grow up and gave out i don't i'm hanging around regularly for you know i i kinda. I've kinda preach eight a month. 'cause they give it up grocery store. What are they giving up. They taking your call curry's. Oh okay oh you wanna be robbed confused to do not want to be wrong was hiding in clothes at the grocery store about outside or you mean like give it up. Give me a high five stealing grace. What are you talking about. The rich people they weird is fun and it's always some white man white man good white me start checking crazy ass as white me so y'all can be popular game day board of well. We need to give them something to do. That's that's what they do. They create all these fucking fucking todd white me fucking enough to you. Yeah wouldn't check your daddy chris dot which dad i am not in charge of white people. I barely in charge of myself. What do you know where you know. You know we do and why people won't blow up. You fucking look unique. Get together like yeah yeah o._j. We gave o._j._t. You got a long time. Solve the racial draft of dave dave spill ah we gave your o._j. And we kept vanilla ice and that was the trade off is is baby trade o._j. And condoleeza rice and vanilla ice dave y'all anybody you wanna take her hands yeah and what's that that other one nine who they're black girl run around always though you can have to who can we have. Oh you young keeps me. We will take it for cash. Considerations kid yeah. Just give us a casket from walmart this. I'll i'll casket from while you know while marseille cask denied no all marcel my my cousin freeman my cousin boo. I took you suffering and got a casket in his basement. So when somebody died and i'm sure he ritu casket funeral they'll go back and get his casket back when they put joe asking their box. That's a good fucking. That's some good money. He leases out a casket. He bought yeah walmart and they walmart right delivered to your door. Googly chris walmart sale caskey. I've seen the caskets on the walmart website. Yeah yeah so. I don't have a minimum our are. You can't try them out before you buy guided jingo fit this man. He got like two three selection in his his basement. So if you ever if you don't have no insurance and you need a casket just to show he ran them out. That's a fucking business. Think about call. One funeral can pay for cam warm. Funeral can pay for the caz. The cats don't like five hundred dollars so you charge them of. I'm lonely this casket for your baby for to get up out of it today. I said what do they do after that. That's your problem. It's like ooh. I get you to the destination. I don't help you through the dope. He's got lubar caskets like no l. Money make no money. There's been a lot of shit on this podcast fucking get s._s._i. B.'s okay okay and and he will reach you the casket and fucking due to food for the few he will go pick up the church in catering come on foot rubs. I don't know how to make no money right. We know that we didn't put a catering and caskets together as you. That's what if if your friend won't like extra pillows it come with extra pill and he fucking dry cleaned all the linen out. The each barrier good head upgraded service. You have no stain cast and you ain't gonna pay. They don't put the casket in the ground can't cast i will everybody's the cemetery was he just flip. The body out began you back food at the house i know how do they get the body. Out of the casket at a lamb did a family family lead. They put the family they box inside. The whole is about is a casket about the concrete box out. No been one is celebration time she's ever been to into a cemetery. Just now getting yeah fuck that gray free. You ain't never gave it up in a weird place. Chris no would nobody will let me know never did it at the park in the back of the church in the fucking cherish bathroom no but i'm sure my buddy will let me if i if i ask them nicely the buddy the guy from atlanta. I asked open gotham allowing give chris collin. He wanna fuck in the bottom of the church. I used to jerk off in church all the time in the bathroom sensical comedy lab black church to be jacking off in my friend's finger girl in the church fan wants. Hey you jag enough kevin black church. I say you don't put that ugly as in a black usher hit you too. Oh yeah they're gonna want ten percent of whatever comes out better. They say meet me in the bathroom. Is she old enough. They'll say meet me thrown. Pastors have gotten in trouble for there was a group of passes passes. I think down in texas the guy in trouble for sex trafficking who'd you mean. They were sex trafficking congregate with the bucket. Why you got your congregation and sell them. They were fucking passed all passengers pimps. They pimped and that's a straight up read down. You can't be pimping passenger in to see that won't fuck church. That's why i don't go to church. You ain't made me semi was anti-gay ten percent paycheck from a job and ten percent of the dick. I saw it ain't like that babe. It ain't going down. We'll get praying cloudy up in suits playing like they passed but they really. They dressed the same. Do go to jail. Oh yeah the most of them got like this other big. It was like seventy eighty people. Tell me they will white now. They were black. I knew that sounded like some nigga. She why people tell you lies behind the mic dang go all pimpri like any nicotiana throwing a fucking retreat famo- housed joel. Oh yeah those things retreat those things emma fuck face before every fifth. Sunday is why you get the the the pastor offer. What is it the revival they every if sunday when you do offer they do extra offering for the pastor. Basically he gets extra money every fifth sunday okay so that's like four times. A year never heard it. Oh yeah up here. Math saluted fucking church literally every day when i was a kid dumb you gotta give yourself time to send like oh. You know what i mean. You can't say sorry after you've been here everyday right so we we used to have all these gas. Ask passers come in and there'd be revivals and vacation bible school and it was just it was just cash grabs all this shit they invite all these extra people over pastors and they just re preached the same shit you just heard sunday morning right but then you had to do offering so that they could get some extra money and they cycle them through our passenger would go to their church their passover coming to our church and it was just like a a racket yeah. It was right yeah yeah. It was like a script. It was like a traveling scraper. Yeah yes is exactly like that. Because i had a friend who was a travelling scripture scruple did he rip strip script strips interchangeably so i noticed the bitchy takeoff a close traveling you can understand annette a friend who was one like traveling nurse too so she may really good money gore life from like a little country town but she would go to miami she will go to d._c. And you know because they town. She was like twelve but in them places she was get more money. She was still cute with maybe eight but she was new pussy instead of seeing the same old hold and that's exactly what it was like a church anyway. Remember getting high all the time church getting. You got hunched at church that the lucky the lucky. I told you that he's the shit out of those. Who did the keys. Oh my god you don't you. I got laid off vacation by never figured anybody from. Getting cookies didn't start going to church till eighteen okay. There was no chanel nobody. Nobody tried to fuck you at eighteen. It was somebody wanted you know. He said he didn't start going to church till he was eighteen. That's what i'm saying. Nobody you didn't go to vacation bible school. I know i've i've hated going to church kid. I have a choice go now because i love jesus. I don't come to church with me. I wouldn't go search specials. Take take gary. I would never go to church. I don't want to hear that louis. Oh you young too much spice despised hallelujah hallelujah hand 'lions uh-huh yes they tease jesus and nobody clever about it. Do you see you see trump when he went to the church. What was he doing so man looked so uncomfortable who led trump black church. Ben carson was being carson now. Don't tell me it's fucking why we're trying to do the archipelago's. Ben carson overslept bit her been causing wife saying oh my god when not tell you she shattered my as see that why you need black free. They'll tell you the youtube like if you don't get that no saying bitch she likes. It sounds like a joke do a sakes by young talent being caused. She'd been choked by young doing sex as we think she signed it fucking horrible it was horrible. It was horrible. All right makes y'all get out and vote. We got less than a year to change the world world in a different way and they're right mr libertarian. <hes> more of the uninviting should no matter perpetuates the system. I edano perpetuate me but dan is going vote this year because if you not i'm never gonna speak to him again. Never know outvoted. Oh yes i will 'cause. I'm i'm going and i'm gonna film it. You're not in my district so you can't first of all. You can't film it. That's illegal saying do it on time. You're you're talking. I don't i don't feel the vote. I feel you feel you in nine to go vote. I'll go stand in line. Lunatic paid as do you know going into recession. I have a nineteen year old car. I don't give the thirty four thirty five always been broke. That's why black vote with may about economist kinda middle shit out on recession period exactly the microwave popcorn. I'm going to be the problem that we have in his fucking country but he won't vote this time yeah even if i have to put a button autumn night to his throat. I don't wanna say real nice. Can you come back and sue me ten years later. The air about nobody nights don't cook. I'm gonna just beaten up all them. Open mic released bad shit and then i will kill you it. I'm done hoping my i think my son is. One was a tall lady who stuck in my face. I four tooth row. That's awesome. I tried to been that big bitch fingers back. She stuck being my fan base freeing our way back to another country. I don't want to talk to me like that's the one you don't fuck with the wrong nigger day. We have to tell that story on a difference at at some point yeah. I've never seen the one of our show me one where you just barrel off stage and i've been afraid of you ever since really that one she it was to me. You know you're in trouble. When your face turned into my aches anytime i see him in the fight all nigga i it came to data day out my whole face turning to my baby and my mind say kill 'em and boy my nipples guy and i went the fuck walkout. Stay tuned today. Y'all i'm out this bitch. Thank y'all thank you so much for tuning into another episode of the pat down. Make sure you check out my website at midtech comedy dot com for all of my social media. My tour dates my book. Make sure you spread the word about my dog. Has please rate every veep. Please write a review a share sake. Ethel matale i._b._m. Is pat.

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Ep. - 204 - CO-EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF JOE MILLIONAIRE

Reality Life with Kate Casey

53:28 min | 1 year ago

Ep. - 204 - CO-EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF JOE MILLIONAIRE

"Welcome back to another episode of Reality Life With Casey hoped that you're having a great week week. Today was my son's eighth birthday. I cried at least five times. I'm a total wreck. When it's my kids birthdays? I just go back to the day they were born and I just think about it and then I start losing my mind and I weep in front of people and it's highly embarrassing. That's normal right to just totally cry when you think of your child's birth. I've also been keeping myself busy this week by watching the new season of the crown. I cannot overstate how fantastic the show is now. It's a scripted drama but it almost feels like a reality television show because you're getting an inside look into history having to do with the royal family now. I don't think there's anybody that interest most people more at this point than what's going behind the scenes at Kensington Indian Palace especially between William and Kate and Megan and hairy. So I love the crown because and I might add. This is the only show that I can watch with my husband husband because you know he watches war movies and he watches shows like billions and succession. And I watch garbage shows so this is the one that we can watch together. And and it's my favorite kind of show because we google the entire time. There's so much British history that I never knew about and you can't believe the stories is that have gone on that we never knew about an. It's because the people who work at the Castle Kensington Palace are masterful in doing lean crisis. Pr They have covered up so many stories that the crown reveals that. You can't even believe it so I don't know I kind of feel like if view love reality shows you're going to love the crown so please watch it and also Andrew being in the news all the time right now. It reminded me that I heard a rumor a couple years ago ago. That Angie Everhart son is really Prince Andrew. Whose child is that true and somebody kind of do some research on it? I feel like I heard that I don't know if I've ever seen pictures of her son so I don't know that was something that I heard this episode. I'm freaking gain out about not only because I asked Jamie keilor's to watch unpolished on. TLC which is a new show and his take is so funny. But I've got a chance to talk to Liz Bronstein. who was the show runner and CO executive producer of a fantastic show that lives in infamy called Joe Millionaire it aired in two thousand three on Fox and it was like nothing we ever seen because Fox put together show that was basically earliest spoof about the bachelor but got someone to pretend that they were a really really wealthy heir to the Marriott fortune but was in fact just a construction -struction worker and the whole theme of the show is like Ken? We full these women. Will they think that he is Joe Millionaire and then at the end. If they're the finalist list they get to find out. He's really construction worker and the real question is will she stay with him if she knows he doesn't have the money. And I'm telling you people going bananas for the show. It has the highest rated finale in reality television history. It was like thirty four point six million which is on heard of you think of like in basic like a week real housewives of Orange County. We'll get like one point. Two million viewers thirty four point six million people and I just remember Knbr was on the cover of magazines. People went crazy for it. Of course there were less reality shows them and people were really captivated at that time with the bachelor so this this kind of gives you a little glimpse into or audio glimpse into what the show was about There was an average Joe. The living by simply moving to a we need married Ninety thousand dollars the year. What will happen when every Multi millionaire red wine going there. He talked the ways of the world. Now Evan will invite twenty beautiful women Chateau in France. The Lee has just inherited over. Fifty Aw Man Dreams is honest. Aw He will love with Richard It really is. I never dated into highly. That made a lot of money. The reason for living in a fairytale. It'd be interesting to see how it plays out. We'll have detail about every to explain goal story by fifty million dollars because the more you think about it. He's mine. Get over it. I have never seen grown independent self-sufficient women I'd like such brats. I'm a competitive person Waist deep in it now I can't I can't go back. Thanks RASA coming to treat no matter how much myself Apollo realized about anything. Oh my gosh. Now when they're showing this they talk about him making nineteen thousand dollars shopping French fries into his mouth and he's working at this like dumpy construction insight and then you see him in France at this over the top castle and these girls. Oh my gosh. These were the days before they wore hair. Extensions and spray tans an eyelash extensions and they seem normal like they have real jobs and like hopes and dreams for the world outside of TV or at least seemed it and it was unbelievable and every buddy in the country was talking about it seriously we everybody was obsessed with it so I was so excited that I got to talk to Liz Bronstein. And I'm so thrilled for you. Hear that interview so here we go. Liz Bronze Dean is a showrunner and executive producer known for several hit series including whale wars. CNN's believer with resume as Lon- and Ocean warriors she is filmed all over the world including remote dangerous environments from an article to the South African Bush and and made a string of hit shows that broke new ground in the reality documentary genre. Liz was the show runner of Miramax Emmy nominated project greenlight on. HBO and Joe Millionaire on Fox which still holds the record as the highest rated reality finale in the history of television welcomes the show. Thank you thanks so much bill to be here so tell me a little bit about how you got into television. Well in high school I was always that girl. It smells like darkroom chemicals. I had a darker my bathroom and I love photography and I love being alone in a dark room and when I left college I really wanted to be an editor And so I got Like it was easy at that point to get a job at CNN in Atlanta. They were just starting out and so I did. I moved to Atlanta and I worked my way up to news editor news editor for about five years at CNN in an at a really exciting time But then at a certain point you know you're you're just you're good and you're fast but there's there's no real way to get better as a news other in my opinion. Yeah and the avid. Just come out and I literally read the avid manual and taught myself how to use the avid. And I got my car and I drove to Los Angeles and I said I was an avid editor. And then I you know you can tell you make it and so what was the first project that you really that you worked on that you felt like I've really made it. I'm not sure I've worked on that project yet. You know you're you're always you're always challenging yourself and always feeling like you better and You know you're constantly learning thing and always feeling like you're failing and succeeding and failing and succeeding and of all the projects that you've worked on. What would you say thus as far as the one that holds the closest place to your heart? Well there's two really One is jockeys. It's a show that I did for Animal Planet in a two thousand nine two seasons and I growing up I grew up in a in a gambling family And my stepfather bet on the horses for a living. Although my mother would say was not for living it was just something he did. And I always love the racetrack. Doc and I always wanted to make a show about their jockeys and was lucky enough to sell that series to animal planet and so we did two seasons out. I cannot need a Following six jockeys through their lives and that show is just so close to my heart. I just I love that world I love those jockeys and and the stories. We were able to tell them that. Show so if you can find that somewhere online. I'm very proud of that. And then you know the second one one is Joe Millionaire. I mean that that was a really incredible project. What I remember most about Joe Millionaire is really? How captured all of America's Erica's attention? I can still remember reading that. The cast of friends were captivated by the show. And we're all taking bets on. What would happen to walk us back through history and tell us how you became involved with the project? I had never heard that thing about friends. That's interesting 'cause we were. We were making making it as it was airing so we were in this sort of crazy. Production bubbles so they're at school. I never hear that Okay so here's how here's how Joe happened. I had done season one of project light and it was my first job as show runner and the second season project greenlight. There was an incredibly long time between the first and second can seasons. 'cause it's a complicated deal with all those big players so sitting at home and I got a call from A friend of mine. WHO's a producer who I had produced some stuff for and he said okay? You can't tell anyone about the. Here's the here's the project is from Mike. Arnold Fox. We spooked the bachelor. A guy pretends to be a millionaire. He's actually a construction worker in the end he reveals all and it's a total secret show. I was like I'm in. I'm in and I literally. I walked away from project greenlight and decided to do this. Sort of crazy Razi Aziz show and partly it was because you know I could feel right away that it was a narrative concept as a reality show and that's and that's really rare. You know I mean it was really a ROM com. It was like somebody percent pretends to be someone. They're not in order to see if they're really love for who they the. How many seasons at that point had the bachelor been on because it was pretty? That was pretty early into the bachelor and people were really obsessed with the bachelor so this was to make fun of. It was probably a pretty big deal. Yeah I think I think they had only one season. It's not to it was. It was all pretty now so I signed up. So I you know it was the company called rocket science laboratories and it was. It was run by two guys who I knew really well and had worked with before and was very close with Chris Collin and let me show me you know we started off and it was this big secret and I pretty quickly decided that the best best way to keep this gigantic secret was to make it sound really boring so I named the show the big choice which sounds really boring and I told my agent. I like my family all my friends. I said that we were basically doing the Bachelorette we're doing you know the Bachelor but starring a woman and made it sound really dull so nobody asks anymore questions right when you're doing a project that doesn't sound interesting and I had policy on the staff that nobody could write down the secret on paper and this was you know the Internet was really new but still nobody can put it on paper because I feel like once something goes on paper the secret out and then it would all be ruined. Tell me a little bit about the a choice for Evan Marriott. How in the world did you guys We had a casting director. WHO's incredible edible Tyler Ramsey and we searched high and low? And I mean we must have seen hundreds of guys and the thing that we didn't really anticipate eight was how hard it would be to find somebody who was a with a blue collar worker but had had the swagger and the The attitude of someone really wealthy right and we didn't really think that through you know all the guys that we met. Who had were these blue collar? Construction workers there was just no way they could have pulled hold off acting like a wealthy person And we went through hundreds of guys and we'd gone to the point where they were GonNa shut the show down. I mean we just couldn't find her Joe Millionaire and then are casting director. Tyler was driving Pathak and -struction site and and he saw Evan working construction site and hold over what had just walked up to him. and Said Hey would you be interested in this. I mean it actually happened that away. That's wild and it. We're GONNA last minute thing. I mean it was like Oh my God get him in front of my. We found the guy we found the guy. Let's let's move forward at the practice. Do you think that he thought this process through or did he just seem like he was up for anything during the headlights here in the headlights yet. No idea what he was up for. I'm going back to preparing for the show. You know my first meeting with Mike Darnell. Oh at Fox and you know Mike Their analysis this amazing guru of reality TV. I mean the guys responsible for creating so many genres event just so brilliant and my first meeting with him he said Liz. We're GONNA make these women look like gold diggers that gold diggers that they are. And we're GONNA in a shoot this on an island and we're GonNa make them bikinis and we're gonNA prove lunar gold diggers and I was like Mike Newsflash Josh women want to be with the best hunter in the tribe Like I don't think that That is any kind of big revelation that women want. WanNa be with a man who can take care of them And I don't think that's the point of this show at all you know. I think it's a romantic comedy. And it's it's about actually finding love being loved for who you are and why don't we shoot it in France and make it a fairytale like put women in Bikinis like let's just not do that. Come on on let's get a horse and let's get carriages and and let's make it like a real life Rom Com and he was like okay. Fine just make good escaped having Basically the Paradise Hotel. How did you prepare him for the show uh-huh and he's got to play the part so he has to have some working knowledge of really fancy? Schools has to have certain table etiquette. He has to know about luxury luxury. Items was there somebody on staff who prepped him. Questions and the truth is just didn't have have time. I I mean I you know. I can't remember the timetable. But we had to put Evan through psych screenings and background checks. And you know by the time we got him approved. I mean I think maybe we had had like a couple of days before you had to get on the plane so these are all things that we didn't have time to do. I mean we literally had to buy his wardrobe when we you were in Paris because we had not had time to get him close in Back in Los Angeles and I remember we shot these sequences of Evans Etiquette Training. where he learns how to use which for us and all that which we shot afterwards because we have time time? Wow so one of the problems was that Evan didn't know any of this stuff And he you know the fact that his last name was Marriott was just Kinda gift you US people thought that he was a descendant of the Marriott family which there was no relation also. The funny part is that the Marriott family is like Mormon family so if anybody who it like really thought through in terms of the contestants they may have thought a lot will if why is he drinking. If these Mariotti is probably part of this Mormon family yeah no relation no relation and in fact. I remember the first scene. We decided that Evan would ride in on a horse and of course he had never ridden a horse and we were take that he would just fall right off and so we had him ride like the tiniest distance on my the oldest force could find. I mean you're so you're saying it and I absolutely remember but I think that the part of that you're totally right. It was almost like a ROM com because he seemed so funny. Johny the whole thing just seemed like absolutely hilarious. How were you able to find women to cast because when this show came about it was way before you had contestants that were really about you know? Obviously growing their instagram fame. And we're really savvy to the entertainment industry three. So how were you able to find. Women like the two finalists who really felt like. They were plucked from obscurity and had normal jobs. Well they they really were plucked from obscurity. I mean you're absolutely right. This was you know bachelor had an on for one season this genre was in its infancy and you you know there was. There was no sort of comedy trope of. I'm not here to make friends. The girls were all over the place like some of the girls were there to get famous. I mean there were a lot of times. We had cut out conversations where they talked about which morning shows that they wanted to be on the show. Oh my really At yeah even back then. We're like this is GonNa launch me and there were other girls. Were just genuinely there to have denture. you know. I can't say any of them more so naive that they really thought that they fall in love but but it was a much different time. They weren't sort of J. as jaded and cynical As they are now and much more innocent did they. Were there situations that you had to cut out out while you were filming where someone was starting to question whether or not he was legitimately from this wealthy family. Well they never questioned whether or not. He was from a wealthy family but a lot of some didn't like him very much. That was what we had to cut around like. Evan wasn't particularly charming with the girls. He wasn't really that interested in them. I'm not saying that he didn't like women but you know he just didn't care that much he wasn't really there to find love and there were times where I would say like Evan. Just go to dinner with this woman afterwards. I'll let you have a pizza party with these guys and it'd be like okay do it. Yeah and you know the girls could sense mm fat he you know. He wasn't romancing that he was sort of phoning it in and he wasn't sophisticated and he wasn't charming and they for the most part they were not smitten with him and and so we had to cut around a lot of that. Like you like Evan. I don't really do you do You know so but part of what you do on those shows and now the people who who have made these shows for these last years have announced with science and we were just learning and at the time as you know once you cut off all contacts with the outside world you know you you you create this really unreal environment and so these. These contestants live in this bubble Play up constantly this idea that he is amazing and I would interview the girls constantly. You know on camera and I would just say things like Oh my God. You're so lucky to get be getting to meet him. He's so amazing isn't he. And you know all the producers we constantly were were playing up. How terrific? Evan was and you know you. Don't you're not reading a newspaper these girls you see TV. You're not reading the Internet. You can talk to your family. And so you know the idea on these shows is that you create this this really sort of surreal the environment where the contestants are to believe that Success Equals winning this thing. I mean I'm sure a lot of other producers talk to you about that you know. There's there's a real kind of Method to it we were doing in the dark. We were figuring it out. I've never done a show like this and We were just kind out of bumbling through it. How often were the women sort of processing that like? I don't really like this guy but I know this is a great opportunity the need for me. How can I stay in this game? Can I make it through. Because I know in the end it will propel me somewhere. Did you get get a sense that there were a lot of women that were kind of caught in that spot and if so how did you kind of keep them on course because in the end you really want somebody study to be at the end of this thinking that they want to be with him. Yeah absolutely I think it's human nature or you know as the field gets whittled down the people who are still there get more and more into it. Yeah so you see it on all these shows you know they might start Out there like no I just signed up for this and then when they think that they have a chance of winning they take it more and more seriously so as the field narrowed down it it get get it becomes very very serious girls. I think I mean listen. It was a long time ago But you know they offered to take it a lot more seriously. Do you think that there were women that were let go and thought thank God i. I'm glad I didn't have to be in the end of this and have to make a real decision. Oh I think so I think so I mean he. He was not a delight to be around. And you know. You're sorry Evan. If you're listening to this but I don't think he'll argue with me. That was not the best forty days of your life. And you know you're in this castle in the middle look nowhere and like the castle like not beautiful inside like it was a lot et cetera. Thing and you don't really get to do anything until we take you out on a date with him and so it's really boring And so I think a lot of them were like. Oh finally but of course you don't let them leave because they were going to go home and the a lot of you know there's a lot of nondisclosures and that's a whole oh simple thing But yes I think I think there were plenty of girls who were like. Get me out here for sure. So let's talk about the physical part of the show show like the actual making out no of course runner up. Sarah closer received notoriety when the media reported that during the course of the show she had appeared in bondage videos while while attending law school. I'm sure none of you knew that beforehand Or I'm assuming that you didn't know that beforehand and then there was a scene from the show that implied that they had had kind of made out heavy on a walk together and she claim that nothing actually happened so so two things It was foot fetish videos to make it even more salacious That that she was found to have don and no we had no idea right like Google it. You just wasn't that easy to find all this stuff out about people and we found out in the process when the press revealed revealed it So about that scene in the woods it was funny. I was at a discovery. You know the channel Discovery Big Producers Party a couple of years ago and This reporter came up to me and said Ed I said I'm Liz Bronstein and he. He introduced himself and I introduced myself and he said I know who you are. I have two questions for you. He's like I and he brought up the scene from jockeys which was so obscure and he figured out the tiniest cheat that we had done in a race. Where like you know jockey hadn't been in the race and we had implied imply the jockey was in the race and and I was like you're right? I mean you notice that you're absolutely right that that was a bit of achieve and then he said and I got I didn't know about the scene in the woods is also eighteen years ago like I've got no so here's the deal with seen in the woods. I kept saying to all of them to Evan. And all of the women do not run away from us. Do not take your microphones off like you guys all signed up for this like you know you're in this with us like when you let us film things then we see the reality but if you run away then you know. We don't know what happened so just don't do it and of course they did it But they forgot to take their mics off. So there's so thrilled that they managed to outrun. You know cameramen looking gigantic cameras. But we still have their mikes so you know it was this thing where at the time fine. We will really bummed out like I can remember being in the control room and it was this big crisis and evidence. Sarah lost the cameraman or like. Oh my God going to do. And he's going to be a great scene and we were all really glum and you had to give them a talking to and And then we were at it and you know here we have the the shot where they they run away from the cameraman and you see them disappear into the woods and and then audio just kept playing and I was like like wait. I've got play. Wait what what I was like you guys. Let's just lower this audio If we're doing a ROM com and we were You Know Hell. Let's whatever we think we're hearing let's just lower third at your probably excited because other point no one really wanted to make out with them so it's probably like finally someone's actually into the sky we we gotta show now exactly so I was the juiciest pick up for sure so we ended up choosing this woman named Zora now. Oh she seemed like snow white like a somebody who was a saint that like rocked babies to sleep. was that impression correct. She was heaven sent. We couldn't believe our law. She was exactly that she couldn't have been kinder or sweeter or more genuine and she really liked him like she genuinely genuinely felt a connection with him and You know here. It was dispersed sort of classic. You know the blonde and the Brunette and you know one. One is pure as a driven snow one is kind of conniving and did fetish porn which we didn't find out so later And in fact there was this one. We see where Zora was out in the woods. I think it can remember. And she was sitting under a tree and she just so Oh snow white ish and you wouldn't believe how rigging sweet and Nice and scroll was. I was like you know what let's get. Some animated birds in having housing land on her shoulder like she is now and we literally did that Just because it was funny like she was such a you know so Exactly what you wanted her to be. And it was very surreal whole Because you know you can't plan that kind of stuff you can hope or it but then it just sort of happens you know. I mean he picks them. I'm for real so well. The issue was like that absolutely lovely. The show was so successful it had an average of thirty four point. Six six million viewers tuning into the season. One finale can you believe that I mean that those numbers are unbelievable crazy rate so we shot the show rap like right before Thanksgiving we get back. I mean it was the most exhaustive awesome. I've ever been and I'm just laying on the couch watching television and and you know we think we're going to air and like March or April. Maybe this summer and I'm lying on the couch and it says is Joe millionaire premiering January second. I was like well. That's what we need it for January. The second I call Mike. I'm like Mike I thought we weren't premiering until the spring and he was like nope. Change my mom. We're putting you on right away. You got great stuff. And so we worked around the clock to edit that show I mean I have. I worked so many hours that I had to have a day day assistant on the night. Wow because we had so little time You know to get through all that footage and and and and craft that show so we were delivering episodes as they were airing unbelievable. Vive really didn't and you're working around the clock so we didn't really know everything that was going on about like the Saturday night live skit. I've never seen about it but like we were you're in this bubble of of post production and You know and then and then the finale airs and then you know you sleep for a month and so so Yeah we KINDA KINDA missed it. I mean there was a point. We're drinking so much coffee. I got really obsessed with the coffee. Mate Hazelnut creamer and I started calling it crack cocaine because the only thing that could keep me going and I remember saying to like a production assistant just like I need you to get any more cocaine and they were like. They went to the line for this narrow problem. And they're like no she meant coffee mate. For God's sake they get her. The coffee made so yeah. It was It was really crazy and we We work we were through it so he chooses Zora and the and end they split one million dollars. Obviously the relationship did not last he goes back to contracting in Orange County. California on like we're in the world is Zora ago. Do we know so. She became a spokesperson for weight watchers. Wow she didn't like weightlifters commercials you can find them on the Internet. Yeah and then I think she got married and let let us we life. I don't know and then Sarah did playboy. Of course she did of course and then he just disappeared off. The face of era just never did interviews after that she did a lot of really really angry interviews and And then playboy which I had framed on my office forever And then I don't know what happened to her. Yeah I don't know what's the one thing that you wish made it to the show that we never got to see So we thought about shooting this scene after Oscar it was all over and we never did So the whole concept apt. Was You win a million dollars and believe me like trying to write the explanation of why you got a million dollars for being on the show with like a lot of like fancy footwork like because magic exists in love is magic and magic is here. And here's a million dollars. I was like we giving them money. Running right And so but we you know it's it's a game show and so you know her. FCC Regulations You have to have a lot of rules in in place and so we had a lot of rules in place and one of the rules that have never knew. Is that nobody. Nobody has if if at the end of the show he says to her. Meet me at the search. There was it was like a horse. Stable meet me at the church and If you still want me now that you know actually construction worker and I'm not a millionaire. If you still like me. Meet me the church at noon. And so then he's waiting and then of course she does meet him and the oldest magical stuff happen but if she had not shown up he would've gotten the whole million. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. I don't know it was pretty darn great the way that it ended. I mean I think it's one of the greatest shows that ever was i. I can't tell you how many people still talk about it. I mean it's just such a great concept and g you look back and just think thank God I was part of that because what an experience Yeah I mean it was one of those released of Surreal And it was. It was one of those like sort of like reatives tumbles that you take you know there were so many creative risks that that I got to take on that show partly because it was a a genre that was so new and it was so inexpensive expensive To shoot these reality shows compared to all the scripted shows that that all these networks had on right like we were like Simba full of money and so we didn't have a ton of oversight plus. This show was a big secret right so really very few people knew what was happening But still so you know we were with these low budget shows and Mike are now with always willing to take a ton of great abreast. And you know we had this host to just like wasn't a great and it wasn't really working with her and One of the things that we decided ahead of time was like I haven't needs a butler like we need more things to make him see wealthy because he just wasn't going to be pulling that off so I went to like butlers dot com. Tom and we found like a butler. And we just hired him and he was so good. Yeah really charming. And so after we finished in the show I had this idea Eh. We could like really play up the comedy and make it almost like a masterpiece theatre deiter booth and so I went shell who I worked for and I said okay I have this totally crazy idea put paw aw in front of a fireplace. A snifter liquor and he's swirling it and we open and close every show with him kind of like giving us very funny overview overview and. He was like that sounds insane. I was like I know. It's like either really brilliant or really awful but like price sit out like ten grand found this place in Pasadena we can shoot them all at once like bought me money like let's just give it a shot because why not and so we when we shop these crazy wraparound with Butler and then we re cut the show you know to make him a much bigger character than he was at the time he was just meant to sort bring messages in and out and You know you look at today and it's like this crazy bananas thing where there's some like Butler in front of a fire opening and closing the show. I mean it. It's very surreal and so much fun. And and that's what I love the most if you got to kind kind of take these crazy risks and subtitle people running through the woods and have you know birds land on or shoulder because she was so sweet and You know kind of make this really out of the box Hamady where nobody really expected a comedy you know. I think my goal was like if people tune in and they think that they're going to see that women are gold diggers and instead we we make fun of the Bachelor we booth it and and we you know we make at this comedy but with a lot of heart at its core And so yeah it was was well. I can't tell you how much I appreciate. You telling me all these stories because it takes me right back to two thousand three watching it. It was such Gotcha great show. I'm I'm sure that you look back and think that was like three minutes ago but like that show deserves serves the the trophy of all trophies. Very well done and again. I appreciate your time if People Wanna learn more about you and then the projects. So you've worked on. Where can they Look look that up Well I built a website. Liz Bronstein DOT COM. And they go there. There's a couple of clips of the different shows I've done since then and Yeah let's DOT com. Thank you so much I appreciate. She did yeah. Thank you and thank you for doing this. Really Cool podcast. I've listened to a bunch of episodes. And you're you're a great interviewer and and it's so great having somebody can and dive into the history of this really fun genre. Jimmy Taylor is an actor comic and host and I have groped him into watching a new show on. TLC It's called unpolished which focuses on the colorful personalities of the women who own run the Trendy Long Island Salon Martone martone Jamie welcome to the show. Thanks for having me and Roped in is probably the term. I believe I was roped into watch that show. This show is about Lexi martone nail artist. Her sister Bria. WHO's the hair color is makeup artist or their mother? Jennifer works the Front Desk and Foxy Grandmother. Grandmother other works as a hairstylist at the salon. How much did you know about this show before I asked you honestly I never heard of it and I was certain certain it was actually a real show? I thought maybe you were punking me and it was just going to be like I would open it and then it was going to be a virus that attacked my computer. Computer never heard well so Lexi does nails at the salon and not just manicured. She turns nails into works of art. She can work with any theme mm-hmm and turn fingerprints into fabulous showpieces. Were you surprised at the artistry that one can do with nails and not just nails is pretty much talons. Yes I I mean should I should I tip it I I really love love this woman. I've actually really like the show so like ten minutes into the show. I yelled for my wife and I was like you have to come see. This is actually. You would love this show. This was it was really once. I saw her paint the nails. I was like Oh hold on. This woman uber talented she. She paints a picture of a woman Sonogram on the nail and it is dead image. It's like spot. It's like one of those people do paintings on rice. We're like did that. Just paint the Mona Lisa on a kernel of rice. Nice and I. I was like so impressed right out of the chute kind of drawn in immediately so she says that she that art helped her overcome pass struggles weight and low self esteem and after placing second in an upcoming nail artists competition. That are confidence grew. She Lost Weight and Turner Talent and passion for Nail Art into a successful business. I don't know if she's charging enough for these nails. I looked it up. It looks like a manicure costs about one hundred and seventy five dollars now. I don't understand first off why somebody would wanna put that money into nails. Went Nail Polish basically chips off in a week unless you get a Gel manicure. So that's quite a bit of money and I don't know how you could do things like cleaning up the counter or type or put clothing on with talons. Sounds that long. I do know that the longer when she talks about the fact that they pop pop up 'cause she puts she actually for the musician girl she he creates A boombox that make sound and a rotating disco ball. That has a motor on. Like you told somebody that was your nails thing. I honestly did wonder and marketing way. More expensive actually be thousands of dollars to get the nails with the motor and stuff in it but yeah like the manicure Sir alone I would. I would hate her talent I also she finished second. Where's the girl who finished? I I mean you must be the most amazing artist of all time because I was actually truly impressed and you know. And then all of a sudden she kind of drags the rest of the family into of this show because the sister. She's like oh I tell her hair and They go with the cut it she goes. I mean I theoretically I can cut. I know how to work. Works Scissors from my real talent is color. And then they you know every now and then they cut the hair coloring and girls hair with some crazy rainbow which looks great. But you're like yeah it get it get it girl who's actually truly talented as an artist now in addition to the show. They've got soksi grandma. They've got the father. What did did you think about one? The lifestyle this family and to the ancillary characters like the grandmother and RIAs fiance. Fox's grandma's awesome. I would love to have seen her reality show and she was like twenty one. She would've been it would've been insane. It would have been like in the late forties the fifties and you know like she would be like she would have slept with. Elvis like Elvis would have done a Gig Nassau Coliseum on Long Island and foxy grandma. Banged Elvis like. That would have been her life. She was cool. I liked her big my I I mean I love them all. I really enjoyed the show. Big Big Mike At least on a diet or he's not gonna live through season three. He's I mean he's pretty heavy and can barely breathe but they are obviously extremely extremely well off long before she started a business because the home is I mean although it's it decorated like a scene out of Goodfellas a The home is huge and and gorgeous. I don't know where it is now. But it's it's definitely big. Mike make some money right. I don't know where the money came from. Got Big Mike you know I. I don't know if he's GonNa be with Mauve but in big might get some money and he's also seems like the nicest guy chart so I liked him. I I do too okay. You also host haunted live on travel channel. I have to know what you think about about this whole paranormal world. So how did you get involved in this and has it changed your perspective on the paranormal It's a great story I so I'm a former Navy lieutenant. I went to school on a rocky scholarship at Boston. University and became lieutenant after my boys Discovery reached out they the American Heroes Channel. which was the old military channel they were doing a show called America facts versus fiction and I ended up hosting? Ah I love it. It's about history And it was on the American Heroes Channel it ran for four seasons. They're still in constant play on television so they were doing doing. I didn't really know travel channels under the umbrella of discovery. Discovery by the way is an amazing network so many channels discovery and under scripts and they make fantastic television a little time passes. I'm working on Tacoma. FD This comedy. Show on Tru. And I get this call. And they're like. Hey Hey we have this show called haunted live you liked to fly to Nashville tomorrow and host. That and I was like absolutely I would love to do that and so I go. I had no idea. The travel channel was basically the paranormal network. And I wasn't really familiar with that world so I flied Nashville and I work with the tendency rate chases and we'd be you liked and episodes of this go setting show and I'm indoctrinated into crazy world of the paranormal and ghost hunting and they are so much fun and I. They all had experiences a kid. And we've all kind of handles like rookie experiences in the house. Where like I feel like it'd been here? I see something and they all had a crazy stories. And so these guys go ghost and again I was basically the host so I'm not a ghost hunter. I'm the ghost hunters conduit to the audience. So I'm really just the host guy who does it so we did that for the whole season and then this past season they weren't they say we're not going to do a whole season of this but October is basically ghost tober on on travel channel. Would you come host a superstar ghost hunting events in Salem Massachusetts. Four four hour. Oh and by the way the shows were live line goes pun on the travel channel. Friday night at eight o'clock so I flied Salem Massachusetts this Catholics over and I do a four hour live Goes Time where I am. Not just the host really. Everyone else is in the house hosting. I'm in front of the John Proctor. After House who was one of the people who was hanging during the sandwich trial so they had all this celebrity ghost hunters Jack. Osbourne Portal's from Hell All their different shows does came in. And then I was just the central hub. Lie Online television and I would throw to. Let's go back to Jack in the factor house. Let's go down into jail. Oh we're so and so was killed. Let's go back to where the witches were you. The jury trial was held and stuff so but it was four hours of live television and it was pretty crazy. Will you ever watch unpolished again. and I'm surfing. I would totally stop and check in on the characters characters I did. We talked about this when I watched it. I told you that you know it's a reality show. And we're supposed to be following their life and stuff but it just it. He caught me off guard. That the sister's boyfriend who she's been dating for eight years happens to propose on the same day they're shooting the pilot so I I like the show I I actually probably would watch it again. But my favorite part of it was the artwork that she did on the nails more than anything so I thought she was Uber. Talented guber talented. So where can people track you down and tell them about your podcast. I'm standup and always been autobiographical. And I have a six year old and a four year. Oh and so I started this kind of it wasn't started deliberately to kind of blow up this way but it's the dabbling you'd springsteen fan based on the badlands and so we made the dad land and so there's a facebook group is a private group just for DADS who want to get away from their wives. Ask The question and then we kinda commuting. It's funny how many women tried to get into the dads group and I'm like yeah. You can't just do. But the data lands page where we share all kinds of parenting material and in that we have the Gatland. podcast where I interview you know. We started with Dad's but honestly honestly dad got boring so I started bringing on loans and people without kids because it was great to hear all sides of the argument. Well thank you Iraq Star. Thanks for having me. I want to thank my guest this week. I'm Jamie Taylor and Liz Bronstein. Remember you've got to go to the facebook group go to reality life with Kate. KC in the search button on facebook because there have been so so much. There's been so much scoop this week in that group. I cannot even tell you. And you're missing out you gotta jump in. I've got a patriot. Page P. A. T. R. E. O. N.. Dot Dot Com backslash Casey. 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Hour 2 - Rich Eisen (11-26-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Hour 2 - Rich Eisen (11-26-19)

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one sports net production available on Apple podcast and podcast one this summer. There's only one trusted place that lets you get in on all your favorite sports betting action that online dot. Ag Sign up today for a free account at bed online dot ag and use Promo Code. podcast one for your fifty percent off. Welcome bonus or text bet now two two three eight six six nine. That's B. E. T. and W. Two two three eight six six nine in to receive your fifty percent welcome. Bonus don't sit on the sidelines this summer for Major League Baseball to the women's World Cup and all things. UFC Bet online dot ag has. has you covered visit bet online. Ag and don't forget to use the promo code podcast Wine Bet online dot ag your online sportsbook experts broadcasting osteen from the Mercedes man. Can You guys are idiots. This is Dan Patrick. Oh boy the end of yesterday's show we compared it to the ending of the browns-steelers game Week ago. Chaos where you went. What is happening and right at the end of the show we had a listener from Illinois? Who was taking me to task because they had the audacity to say green days? Just not my kind of music and we were talking about Green Day first ballot hall of fame and I said okay. That's that's fine and we had. We had a listener. Who told me to stay in my lane? I knew all about sports but I don't know anything about Green Day. Yes is it a better our line. Stay in your lane or don't run your mouth about green minimum. Don't run your mouth about Green Day pretty great. Because I don't know how many times that line his ever been uttered in the history of green day you watch yourself. Don't run your mouth about Green Day. Okay yes and checking my records. You said one line about Green Day in the past ten years on the show you said not really my thing. That's not the harshest statement of not really. My thing means they're not for you. You didn't say they stink. No you put them. I'm in the hall of fame. That's fine I'm okay. I just said they're not like kind of ban that that you know punk music. Okay fine I was around when the ramones were around. That's a little bit different here. We go no. You're right I stay in my lane. I guess. Stay in my lane but I do know about sports but if this guy is going to call in then he can't talk sports with me because he's gotta stay in his lane right. That's how it works. Yes mclovin how do we know what he does for Liberty in sports. I don't like how did he claim the lane degreen day. If he's in sports than he too cannot speak about greg going. If we're staying in our individual silos here. And then the fact that they the longest longest touring punk band. which I just don't see? I am longest touring American punk band qualified. It as okay. WHO's the longest touring mm-hmm punk band? I don't know but there's there's bands like bad religion who have been around since way before green day that have been. I don't know if they've been touring continuously since then but they've been on tour for a hell of a long time. If we were going to stay in our lanes like one thing that you did that nobody can question. Does everybody have a lane. Aim that they could stay many where we feel that. We're where we feel. We're somewhat of an expert on the topic. Yes like I'm an expert on sports but I ed to be tighter than that. You're not an expert on. Let's say javelin throwers but you're you know. Football Baseball Basketball Poli covered the Olympics. True you need to stay in your lean right now. I want to stay in your lane about Dan's career pole. Yeah stay in your lane. Okay I mean I would say the the major sports I could stay in my lane on that. I thought I was pretty good in music but apparently not so I would say sports I can stay in my lane. That feel like part of the problem with industries in general is using the term expert. That's that's actually where so many people get in trouble because you're supposed to be like say in sports talk right. Are we supposed to be experts in every sport that we talk about or are you supposed to be relatively well L. informed on them I would like to think I'm knowledgeable. Knowledgeable so good yeah. I'm knowledgeable in sports. Like maybe not an expert but knowledgeable and I I would think I could hold my own with most knowledgeable. Sports guys mclovin. If you're GONNA stay in your lane. What would your Elaine BC? I keep thinking more micro like if if we're going to sit around and somebody needs to defend Andy Dalton. I am number one person to stand up by the way you got your wish. Wishing Andy Dalton is coming back and he's going to lead the Bengals to the third overall pick in the draft. They're gonNA screw it up. I've I was not happy when I found out that news because what if he doesn't win now than all my because I've been yelling at the Bengals for four weeks you would have went all these games with Andy Dalton and now they play the jets who are surging he. He deserves better than this. I'm glad he's get another chance to play because they found out what they have with. Ryan Finley okay. Now you bring back Andy Dalton at least for the end of the regular season. It's not his fault. It's just a bad team. Andy Dalton can still be good quarterback. You know he's been an all pro. I think three or four times in a lead them to the playoffs a couple of times. Andy Dalton Alton has been a good quarterback in the NFL not great but good and deserves a better fate than this. Yes ma'am I feel like I don't have a lane like I was like. I was an an English major general like I'm a liberal arts major. I don't have a lane. You do anything really well or no. The old I do everything medium. Well I said I know. I talked to a state of panic because I don't nothing's jumping out to me okay. Do you do anything really. Well what is it. You'd say you do around here todd. If you're GONNA stay stay in your lane what would your lane be and again i. I wouldn't consider myself some trivial pursuit expert. But I'd say things like hall on Eighties. TV shows okay very narrow local. Newscasters female your all man local. Newscasters you know the B. Movies. Maybe that are on a two o'clock in the morning that kind of stuff man. You love the local news. Female News Anchor. Do you were in credit. Get shot at the Kerley Mayland crabby thirty house. PUT It out there. I'm not shy. I didn't think anybody our age watch watch local news or Ken Burns the Fox. Sixty one asked me a question. I give you an answer. You are very good. That is your lane llamas. But she you move. Jennifer Lomber. fritzy was in early. It's like what if you like Patrick. Mahomes four years ago he was in llamas. Eight years ago Paulie. If you were going to be in your lane gene. What would your lane be? As far as knowledge obviously the eighty five bears the nuances of them archery dominant. Archers I really limited stuff. That is yeah Plaid Vermont. That's about it. Yeah Seton if you're staying in your lane what is your link and I don't know I'm sort of in that mclovin boat where I think I do. Lots of things good but nothing great so I think people for some reason except music for me so okay. I'll stick into like nineties slash early Aut punk rock. Okay okay that might be my lane but that would allow you to speak on behalf of the show. Green Day Yeah I could. Yeah yes I we get social media message all the time directed About Seton and his choice of music I love the bumper music and everything he puts together. production-wise there's always someone saying like what is that song or no. That was great job putting that together. So He's definitely knows his music. Thank thank you well. We just got this tweet. The show is not a linear show. No lanes more of a roundabout where you don't actually get anywhere going to circle around parliament. I watched a documentary last night because I got a little bit tired of seeing the Ravens rough up around I watched the making of Scotch whisky and I I went on bottles Scotch. I don't drink scotch but they made it sound so damned elect delectable that I went Was it a specific kind or like the history Howard comes together. It's this small area in Scotland Island. That has like six or seven of these distilleries and they have the best scotch in the world and I just started watching the I think the guy's name is Tim McEwan. And he's done this incredible makeover on a couple of distilleries over there and I started watching this documentary and it was great. I was very proud of it. I'm proud of what they do there. And the you know the fact that they they they charge them like they can get a cheaper scotch in the United States than they could over there like the tax that they have on their own products isn't like seventy percent. Yes mclovin. I mean one documentary. The thought stay in your lane. Komo and I don't know enough about Scotch so I did buy a bottle so now I can stay. Stay in my lane. When it comes to Scotch by the way when it comes to beer I can stay in my Lane Cigars Tequila and knowledgeable enjoyable somewhat in sports about that and the history of ESPN? Yes boy. I was in Dublin a few years ago and went to a wispy distillery called stealing. And the guy says you're smelling it wrong because we were smelling the whiskey. And you're you're kind of smell it with your nose. He goes. Open your mouth and your nose at the same same time breath in as one he goes and the smell will hit your your palate and it was totally different and he goes do it. Both ways and I was shocked and no one ever said it before it was pretty I need and they said that in the documentary about smelling Scotch. Whisky that you go. Okay Open your mouth and then you get more of that all the flavors in there. I I still don't understand that when somebody says what do you think of that wine. I'll go good. Go not like the tenant can did. You can taste the cherry in there. Can you taste the raindrops in the forest. I Guy I can't get any of those things. And this guy was smelling the Scotch and he was telling you everything that was in there because Oh oh you can pick up and then he started telling all these things. I wouldn't be able to tell any of that stuff but do you think it's because we don't have the language like we didn't have take classes and learn. These guys is the you know where you learn about the different things in it because you you try to describe but you don't have the words to describe it sometimes and that's where they talked about how women are getting involved left in Scotch because they have a completely different vocabulary and sense of smell and they will bring out other things that a man would not be able to describe. Describe the Scotch Whisky and that was interesting though that they said that they will they have a different sense of smell. And they'll tell you what they're smelling in the Scotch whisky that a man wouldn't wouldn't be able to describe yes McLennan. Has Your wind game like if you're at a high pressure business dinner. Are you comfortable ordering wine for people. US wine like I could have a couple couple of. I'm pretty good at it regions. You know that's what it comes down to like certain tastes in certain regions. I would be okay. It's when we started to head towards George Italy or Spain or Australia France. That's when I I'm out of my lane with something like that. I feel like there's a lot of pressure to talk the talk. Talk the right way when I seen you at the meals and you do great like Oh man. I wish I could do that. But I don't do the whole swirl it around and all that stuff like you you know you decanted and then you just take it in slowly and you know right away if it's a great wine or not. I had a wine guy a couple of months ago. Tell tell me that anytime you try new wine. Take two sips because the verse SIP. You'll be kinda strong you won't like You're getting used to it. You wait a second and take a whole nother sip zip gulp of it. He said and then you'll know okay. I like sometimes people bail after one. I don't know if that's true or not. What's our question? We got that if you can only get only watch one on the rest of the year I actually put up the first hour. I put up. Who'd you buy stock in Butte as todd? Now Lou and people bought stock in Luca. I think that's because of longevity op but if you can only watch one sixty four percent say they'd watch Lamar Jackson and he was a whole lot of fun last night. Five touchdowns the ravens roll over the rams and if you're the rams go into that film session today are you focusing on how bad the defense was. or how bad the offense can you just say. Hey you know what. That's an aberration. Let's just move onto onto Arizona coming up tonight clippers at the mavs and from what I'm reading. It looks like there's no load management tonight that it. You'll have Leonard and Paul George playing against Luca Danni Chick Carmelo dropped twenty five last night as the blazers picked up wim rich. Eisen will join US coming up here in a moment by the way we love to do copycat in sports you know. Once Golden State started started doing what they were doing and everybody said well. We gotta try to do what they're doing the greatest show on turf with the Rams and we try to offense try to emulate that and now you have Lamar Jackson and I don't know if you go. Is that the future. Or is he the aberration. Where you go? There's nobody like him. Are you now now looking at jalen hurts of Oklahoma differently than you did. Before because of Lamar Jackson and I just posed the question. I don't have an answer to it. I don't know if the scouts are sold on. Just how good he can be. But Lamar Jackson is is changing people's thoughts philosophies minds on. What can I allow quarterback to do because normally you don't want your quarterback exposed? You don't want him out there running the ball but these run pass options nations. We have it in college and what Baltimore did is. We're GONNA put in an offense that you're comfortable instead of quarterbacks they don't it's it's one thing you're just reactive you know you don't WanNa think can Iran. Should I run three seconds in the pocket. Four seconds I gotta run. You just want to have something thing where you feel comfortable in the more Jackson. Looks like he's very comfortable. He's very comfortable at making. You feel very uncomfortable and right now the ravens they're the best team in the AFC. But as I said I our and I still believe it until I see it if the Ravens played the Patriots it's again I would take the Patriots and I know I'm doing a disservice to John. Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson. But until I see it happen I'd always bet with Bela check and Brady because that second time through it happens with pitchers a lot or a hitter and and then you get a book on him. Now you'd think they'd have a book on the Mark Jackson from last year. But he has become a better passer so the book was making pass. Well five touchdowns last night fifteen completion so one third of every throw was a touchdown. Last night he's rushing for almost one hundred yards. And the defense don't know what to do. Because how do you simulate that and you do it in five days six days and you get ready for this this is where the Patriots are probably already prepping for what will be a showdown with the Ravens in the Mark Jackson in the playoffs. That'd be my gut feeling right now. I Rich Eisen will join US coming up. He's got the top one hundred list on the NFL network with Bill. Bella Check Chris Collins worth involved in that and The Michigan showdown. Do you guys see with the line is. It's not a big point spread with Ohio state in Michigan. Ohio state favored by eight. And a half. Anybody surprised at that. Alabama is what surprising Alabama Against Auburn Alabama favored by four. That's surprising Ojo State at eight. And a half. I thought it might be a touchdown. But maybe that's recency bias of how they played against Penn State. And how Michigan Played Against Indiana because it feels like Michigan getting a little momentum there Tommy North Carolina joins us. I Tommy what have today. Hey just gonNA. I'll say I've been a mailman for forty years. Do I have to stay in the lane and just talk about this all the time or no no. I don't require my audience to stay in Elaine Elaine. Because if I did that nobody would be able to call okay. Good 'cause that's awful narrow lane stay in that one all the time Wait a minute hold on here Tom Yes. He has a former letter carrier myself. He's in good company here so I would say that postal employees are well. How long were you a mailman seating? You know I'm a little hazy on. That was at least a year. Okay Tommy maybe three. I'm not really sure. How does that? Allow Seton be talk about being a a mailman. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's enough year. Flynn part time flexible. What I'm saying? What else do you have Tommy that you would like to tell us about? That's all I. Okay Y- I'm encouraging my audience. You don't have to stay in your lane because you know when somebody will say if I'm talking about politics or religion or whatever it might be a little like stay in your lane only talk sports if that were the case then you wouldn't be able talk because you're not going to be able to stay in my lane sports. Yes mclovin we're talking about her odd jobs. I was a paralegal so now laws my lane polly's doorman lane or train. No no he was a balanced C. I can't talk about throwing people out of bars. I could talk about checking. ID's and getting beer from the back. I technically typically. I think I was a doorman. I was a radio DJ. I would think that would allow me to stay in the lane of music for your radio. Dj I yes. I was this during the heyday of rock. Yes prior to green day album oriented yes album oriented rock. Those are the actual albums that Green Day copy to. What are you doing mclovin? I just beard out of my lame. Yeah I used just to be a and we actually played albums. Yes mclovin. No talking about theft paralegal. It's all coming back together. You did. Oh yeah remember. I Taylor swift controversy with WHO owns her songs. That's all me. But then you also have the Barbara streisand wearing her bra. On your head Ed. So that is that you're in the lane of wearing lingerie. Apparently we're signing got tired with Gary Gary still that you know the back rows giving me two of my favorite stories of all time. McLoughlin's friend was house sitting Barbra streisand's apartment in New York correct. Yeah and then he invited you over and then you guys decided to put her Bra on your head right substrata weird science ritual and then fritzy talks about playing playing NERF football and he said at one point his pants down around his knees and I never got the full. I can't get past that that I don't know if I want the full story. Yeah I think you do yeah. We're playing their football pants and knees and I went. I can't ask the following question. I can't follow up with that. Yeah Paul Oh you can't forget the mclovin breaking Charles Barkley Scar Cardis steal a knows. Senator drug sat right there. The nerve football. That's a pretty good one. Well break in it was. It was a convertible. If the Hannett said say no to stealing or theft would you still have taken the hat. Charles has officially forgiving. He has he had. And but if I said hey this guy broke into Charles Barkley's car and took a hat out of sounds bad. It wouldn't be you know it would not be you you know. It was uncharacteristic moment. I've felt guilty for two decades. We'll get your phone calls once again. You don't have to stay in your lane. Yes people are asking who who is a more of a kidney stone. Expert you or Todd Dan you know all about the modern kidney stones trials and tribulation. Todd is historical kiddies. Don't expert well. I will say when it comes to surgery surgery. I'm in my lane. I know what I'm talking about their I've unfortunately had various lip though trips `this and I know your experience this talking about about kidney stones. God I mean oh but that's all part of the Keno Fro- I know I had the stint they'd have to stand. I had had it for like a a couple of days. I had the laser I had like three week I had the laser had delays zapping. And the okay win no you win yes see I just WanNa get this is on the record is are we saying. There's only one person per lane so if there's like a surgery guy it's either you or todd and that's it todd. Would you say on the surgery guy. Because he had unique AAC drained or cut out a couple of times headline L. Receptions. We've been having this conversation. I don't want to win this. I've had six knee operations including a replacement you know. I don't think it's about the the number of them is I when I was fifteen years ahead by the surgeon actually said No. No no no no. I don't WanNa get into that kind of we're going to be that competitive about wine. The shoulder surgery. I'll take a small intestines. Reconnect is surgery. Okay I nearly lost awesome eyesight. Todd just totally insulted. This is even being discussed as I'm GonNa give it to you. Paul you WanNa jump in on the surgery topic you had lung. I've got a couple I. Don't you know they're pretty serious. But I got the one lane. I got the blind and One island. I gotTA locked in because even if you guys lose vision in one eye I was way ahead of the game. I'm I'm calling that the one eyed lane. How did you lose your eyesight? I was born that way I was born and never develops a surge. Never actually now right handed okay. Enough police stay in your lane. Your eyesight to surgery. Then then I would be yes. He Since we're going down a dark road here do we go data Lane Dead Dad Lane Lane. who gets the claim that I think I got that of all dead? Dan My earliest. I think I was eleven and I went to school on Halloween after school. My Dad wasn't there anymore. Top it did did my Dad die earlier than your dad died early and I had to deal with it longer than you have. Paul Your Dad died. How old were you he? He was fifty four. I Dad was thirty nine. And how old were you when he was thirty. Nine your eleven. I just turned eleven. I think the age difference with my dad. Dad was twenty eight years of age. Where the hell were you? So I've had. I was twenty six. Todd you WanNa jump in my dad when I was twenty two Here out I'M GONNA give it to you. Paulie was Halloween holiday. And and you did you go trick or treating. You did not canceled on that. That's a tough one to go trick or treating particularly joyous children's holiday. Yeah when your dad would be going with you. Yeah I'm GonNa give you dead Dad. Thanks thank you winner winner. Chicken missing a tooth by the way we have the t shirt. I didn't know we were going to do it. But apparently it's it's it's it's ready. Is that one of one or is that one of one of many multiple que. They made a a t shirt of me when I lost my tooth my front tooth and we put old time hockey on. It's a picture of me on the t shirt if you would like to go to the website. I didn't see it so good. I gotta take a break here. Rich Eisen is GONNA join us. That's that's a tough guy right. That's all too. I think I'm in my lane there when it comes to that. I don't think anybody else could challenge anybody else. Here missing teeth. Yeah Front tooth anyone anybody. That's your Lane Jake that Todd Club. It was kind of weak when you clean basic as a surgery by the way but sorry die take a break here. Twenty five after the hour here on the Dan. Patrick show okay. This is just a thirty second commercial. And I'M GONNA throw a lot of numbers that you please. Please stay with me in in just fifteen minutes. You could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. 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That series airs Friday at eight PM Eastern along with Chris Collin Worth and Bill Belichick and the list of finalists will be revealed tonight on. ESPN rich good morning. What's been the most surprising reaction to the list so far? Oh I don't know if I've had a surprising reaction I i. Ah Ah 'cause I was expecting people to say well. That's that's That's the way ballot check is I I thought that I get that. And then I knew that certain you you know people That would have an issue with the running backs list not having a single player who played their entire career in the twenty first century on on it that the player of the running backs group of all twelve to step off the field most recently was Emmett Smith so and he's been in the hall of fame for quite some time now so I was expecting all of that And I don't know I'm just. I'm just thrilled. That people have really gotten into it. certainly with the with the show airing on a Friday night so It was great to shoot DP. We did it at. NFL films back in May NFL films Can do great work when they have Two days to turn something around. They had six months at this. And the Ad Edit Bay. So it's it's just been great and I'm I'm fired up that it's finally here. How do you think history is going to look back on Frank? Gore's career I I. I think people will look back on it and saying why isn't he in the hall of fame you know I hope he does get in. I think he deserves it. But he's he wasn't on any commercials commercials. He's not the guy that's the go to guy by the media afterwards. He's a soft spoken dude Who just keeps going? And in in the era in which the thirty something running back as opposed to be cast aside and no longer effective he just keeps doing it he. He's still is the last thousand yard Russia for the Indianapolis Colts And we're not even talking about the forty niners who for whom He had a one hundred yard rushing and touchdown game in the Super Bowl against the ravens in the superdome. So it's just the guys had big games in big spots for big teams. Yes and nobody talks about it. Because he's a guy who never seeks the spotlight and never the spotlight never seeks him or find him. He just keeps ticking I mean he needs fifteen hundred yards to catch Walter Payton which at his current clip would be maybe two more years depending on which team gets him and uses them were or keeps them so. It's entirely possible that it could go Amit and Frank Gore but right now in terms of people who are you know well Living members of the all time rushing list. It's it's it's Emmett and Franco right now. Yeah and I agree I. He's a hall of Famer and not everybody is. I always look at the hall of fame. We go well. She is good as this guy like every baseball player's not as good as Babe Ruth but that doesn't mean you're not a hall of Famer. Not Franco Franco is not Barry Sanders. He's not Emmett Smith. He's not Jim Brown. He's not Walter Payton but that doesn't mean he can't be a hall of Famer we get. We get caught up on these numbers in comparisons. Listen and then we lose sight on what somebody accomplished. And I think Frank Gore is a hall of Famer and another thing with this league. It's a copycat league or at least it feels like that. Sometimes the greatest show on turf. Everybody thought well. Let's see if we can run an offense the way the rams were running it now. You have Lamar. Jackson is Lamar. Mark Jackson going to create a copycat. Are we going to start looking for Lamar Jackson in the draft because of his success when maybe we wouldn't have if he didn't have this this. NBP like season. I don't know D.. I mean you could make a case. That Lamar is the copycat copycat of Russell Wilson and copycat of Of Dak he's the copycat of I mean we could go on and on I mean Mahomes is even a guy that can run it a little bit. But obviously he's no look throws his Roger Federer type uncorking shot That you don't see coming sixty yard passes or overshadow the the ability. I believe we can do both. I mean you know And that these guys are all eventually copycats. Vic that the issue with Lamar Jackson is it doesn't appear like he could be copycat. Is such a genuine article who has the ability to Slice you up and N- With his with his legs with an and the fact that he he's the one that delivers the hit towards the end of the run to And now we're seeing also his ability to sidearm balls through a needle Throwing receivers open that way. I mean that that is that is next level level stuff that we're not used to seeing out of a second year quarterback Even though we did see it out of last year's MVP Under those circumstances. So he's he's playing as well as in. My mind is mahomes. I mean he won't wind up with fifty touchdown passes but He he should account for about forty when it's all said and done He's pushing thirty. I think in terms of touchdowns accounted for so I I think he is the guy that that also so has led to cuyler. Murray I mean we he might push Jalen hurts further up the The the draft board this coming year sure but The question is who can play. Like Lamar I don't know But that'll be certainly fun to find out. I think you're definitely seeing being teams believing that this is not only a winnable format but sustainable and and John Harbaugh man. I mean this guy changed streams. Last you're Dan in the middle of the year like if a if a Martian came down from from from the heavens last night and that was the first football game that the Martian saw goes ooh. That's that's the way quarterbacks play on quarterbacks don't play like that as a matter of fact let's show you the difference. We would show them footage of the Guy He replaced in Joe FLACCO. That's the footage we would show and they did it midstream last year and now with a full off season man it's just been dynamite to watch them and and they also racked up two hundred six yards rushing. It's not just his arm. I don't know how this can be copycat but you also have a situation and we went back and looked in an article that a report four thirty in rappaport had it was November fourth of last year. John Harbaugh was on the hot seat and it was. If you don't make the postseason John Hardball Horrible. was probably going to be fired and here. Because he made that change and went to Lamar Jackson. And that change the fortunes of this franchise. So you know let. Let's not make. It seem like John Harbaugh was on stable footing here he no. He went to Lamar Jackson. I think it was desperate times. Desperate measures offers end till Lamar Jackson. And as a result you know he might be coach of the year in more Jackson might be MVP. That's quickly I mean remember. Coughlin was on the hot. Let's see two and you decided you know I'm GonNa make a change. I guess let maybe the the foot off the gas pedal within his own locker room and and hand things off to his veteran players and then suddenly boom he wins the super bowl and Bumi wins another one and we're talking about him eventually. Maybe one day should he be in the hall of fame. I mean these things in that way of happened before and I guess just just to put a button on it. I should mention Cabernet. I mean tapper. Nick is also a forerunner of of of Lamar Jackson. To the point where The current coordinator of the Ravens was capper Knicks for another hobby harbaugh against John in the Super Bowl years ago. It really is a whole full circle situation but again again. I just don't know how Lamar Jackson can be different. And Tapper Nic was that was that same guy in a way where he was like an ATM points ATM. You put the card and you. Just plus runner are passionate and the points and yards. Came Out Back in two thousand twelve. Were kinda seeing that again. I mentioned the rams issues in the first hour because they do have some issues here and they might not make the playoffs. And I think it's only gonNA get worse for this team because you know girlie is not in every down back anymore. I loved Donald. Do you sign up Jalen Ramsey. They have so much money that they've spent so much of a cap hit and with Jared Goff no draft picks. And you're going to be moving into that new stadium. I just don't think things get better for the rams. I think they get worse. What do you think I think in the same way that we're we're talking about John Harbaugh looking inward if you will or looking at the pieces that he has we'll we'll see what mcvay does but It's hard to. It's hard to sit here here and say that that Belichick in the Super Bowl last year didn't figure out if for the lack of better phrase. What the rams were doing when their special sauce? That had them one year ago. He won't talk about one year ago at this time we were talking about the death of defense after the rams and chiefs put up one hundred and one hundred five points together on Monday night And since that night the rams really offense hasn't been the same. I I still believe in Sean mcvay to try and figure out what can be done less meets needs. A smart guy pushed all their chips to the center of the table. On as the Rams Organization has on less and on Sean and on Golf and girly and Donald Don obviously Jalen Ramsey as well They're smart enough to try and figure out another way through potentially but I. I think you're right that the sands and the hourglass twenty nineteen or fast running out there to bind the Vikings right now and and and I don't know how they bridge that gap this year rich Eisen the rich Eisen show. NFL network host the NFL will One hundred old time team the defensive linemen and linebackers linebackers who made the team will be revealed. 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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 801: Antonio Brown Sweepstakes and the Top 10 NFL Teams

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 801: Antonio Brown Sweepstakes and the Top 10 NFL Teams

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Indiana the New Orleans Pelicans also hired a new head coach, Stan Van Gundy I'll get into all that good stuff including why might leave the La Clippers and twenty twenty one that's coming at the very end of the episode the final segments that. You don't WanNa. Stick around for all of those MBA rumors also later on the show, right before that I'm GonNa also give you my top ten NFL teams going into I believe week seven, which starts tonight when you're hearing this as well as previewing that. Thursday night game between Philadelphia and the New York giants, but I'm also going to be giving you Mike Top ten. NFL teams as. Well as late, only the episode, we're going to continue my conversation about to its Loa starting for the Miami Dolphins. He's the next rookie quarterback to be announced to be starting. I talked about it a lot last episode this episode, take a different approach to it. I'll explain to you why I'm doubling down on my point that this was the right time for to start there was a Big Debate on twitter yesterday and really throughout the entire sports media world of was this the right time to play to a lot of people are siding with Ryan Fitzpatrick at their some quotes that he said after being you know after I was kind of announced that two was starting saying he was heartbroken and that you know he came off as he didn't understand why the move was. Being. Made now, I'm going to be giving you my opinion on the Ryan Fitzpatrick quotes and why I think this is the right time for to it's under Loa to star. That's all coming on later on in the episode of what's we're going to start with is some rumors circulating around one of the better receivers to ever play the game in the NFL and that being in Tonio Brown. Now, I'm sure you all know win Tony O'Brien Tony O'Brien, obviously, the wide receiver who made his name undrafted out of I wanNA. Say Martial playing for the Pittsburgh steelers for years and years, of course, and obviously went to the raiders. Why believe where the Oakland Raiders Yeah they were Oakland Raiders at the time in their final year. This was last year of course, and afterwards, there was some sort of. Couple different scandals. One with you know that was series that it's been taken to court and everything like that, which is i. believe what he's been serving his suspension for those sexual assault allegations I think is what he served his suspension for there was also the incident with getting frostbite on his feet as well as the whole helmet issue. If you watched hard knocks the raiders now this season but last reason last season you know all about this then of course, he was cut. Eventually signed by the New England patriots who eventually cut him after one week after all those allegations came out and he's been out of the league ever since but there was a couple of interesting tweets. One of them saying pretty much that at some point, Antonio Brown. Is going to come back I believe it was Adam Schefter who I reported this that he's going to be after this week. This is week seven. I believe right so that's GonNa be week seven of served his. Game suspension coming up pretty soon in the next week or so and Tonio Brown will be able to play on a football field again, because we're going into week seven and then I think there's a little bit after week eight, he will be eligible. So not this week or next week but the week after Antonio can play football again and Adam Schefter tweeted with Antonio Brown suspension eligible after week eight, the Seattle seahawks are now positioned to make a push to sign him though they are not alone many other teams are also interested. So in Tokyo, Brown according to Adam Schefter. It's he's pretty confident that he will be returning to the League. This season appears anytime between now and when his suspension officially ends a week eight or after we gate I should say Antonio Brown will be picked up by an NFL team now, obviously, the early favorites to sign. Antonio Brown are the Seattle seahawks. They've been interested since last off season. They pretty much been interested in signing him There's been a lot of workout videos if you remember right before the season started talked about it a bunch of a brown working out with Russell Wilson. Decay. Madcap. Some other guys as well and I told you that I think it would be a really good signing to have. Antonio Brown if you the. Seattle seahawks then these suspension officially came down saying that he would miss the at least the first half of the season and everything's been quiet with Antonio Brown since. But now that he's poised to make a return to the NFL in the next three weeks or so it his peers, he will be signing with an NFL team I want to tell you. Why this may be one of the most important moves in decisions in the NFL because there are a couple of teams that I believe are interested in Antonio Brown. Obviously Adam Schefter said there are multiple teams with Seattle being the front runner in the one showing the most interest that they've shown interest for pretty much the entire year so far in twenty twenty. I ever since the Super Bowl ended with Kansas City, they've been interested in Antonio Brown adding a guy like him. So it's going to be interesting to see where he goes. But with the teams that I expect to be interested in Antonio. Brown, it couldn't make or break some seasons of some really really good. NFL teams and could elevate some teams to potential super bowl status or. Super Bowl favorite levels, which is why I think this decision is more important than people are giving it credit for it's being kind of swept under the rug with the and Gakugei trade. After he was traded from Jacksonville Minnesota, this year he's already been treated again from Minnesota Baltimore for a third round pick I'll get into that hopefully later on in this episode at some point and obviously The DEZ Bryant acquisition of Baltimore's while he's been signed to their practice squad, hopefully can work his way up to the active roster. It was kind of all point into this little news dump or those three stories all came out around the same time. Not a lot of people are talking about the Antonio Brown News. Obviously, it's not as immediate as the gateway trade or the Dez Bryant practice squad signing as Antonio Brown can't really start playing for at least three more weeks but any day now Antonio Brown can be signed to my expecting to be signed before week eight so they. Can maybe I'm not sure if he can practice with the team I, believe he can. You just can't play in the Games. So who want to practice with the team for at least a week or two in the system when Spurs me Seattle's team I'll talk about all those teams in this segment, and that's what I want to dedicate this entire segment to is the Antonio Brown sweepstakes and I think they are bigger than the levy on belt sweepstakes who everybody freaked out for days and days about I've talked about it at length how I thought he was going to either go to. I thought he would go to Kansas City. MIAMI. Or Buffalo three teams I had those are the final three teams obviously came down to Miami and Kansas. City. Opted to go with. Kansas City that got a lot of attention and a lot of Talk I. Think this Antonio Brown signing is just as important as the chiefs adding levy on bell if not more important because I think a team that Tony O'Brien can get really change their season changed their. Entire wide receiving room. I want to start off with Antonio Brown's statistics for his career Antonio Brown as thirty two years old. So you can argue he is past his prime I would argue since he's had a year off of football, his body's more. You know thirty one instead of thirty two and I think your Athletic Primis between twenty seven and thirty three in the NFL for a lot of positions I won't count running back and I won't really count. Maybe. Offensive Lineman. If you WANNA consider that specifically for quarterbacks receivers a lot of defensive players a lot of corners twenty, seven to thirty three of the prime of your athletic life and the prime your athletic career. If you're an NFL athletes, Antonio Brown is towards the end of that for sure. But Anyway, he is five ten obviously and his career stats eighty under eight hundred, forty, one receptions over eleven thousand yards, seventy five touchdowns and one hundred and thirty one games played underneath Antonio Brown's belts. That is a big time moved. There are not many receivers who have that sort of stat line that sort of resume as a free agent, and I understand that Antonio Brown husband League for a year do everything due to. Circumstances with the allegations with sort of everything how everything ended with the raiders and the Patriots and everything was up in the air and we didn't get the suspension officially officials suspension for a long time after the allegations came out obviously the game spent he'll be back in three weeks. But in Tokyo Brown is no slouch of a player he keeps in shape. If you look at his instagram, he's still in shape I don't know. The difference between shape and NFL football shape. But I, trust Antonio Brown to be like that Antonio Brown, what he can really offer a team, a speed receiver at the minimum. Maybe Antonio Brown isn't that do it all receiver that he was with Pittsburgh or maybe was going to show spurts in with with the raiders or showed on that one game for the New England Patriots last year but. What he can offer you at the bare minimum as a really good vertical deep threat, and if that's all you need and you're looking for as as a wide receiver in the League era, if you're a coach in the league looking for a new wide receiver, Antonio Brown's going to be your guy and the reason why I believe that is because of his vertical speed deep that all of these. Teams are moving towards a college oriented system that air raid offense a lot of young quarterbacks in this league like to throw the ball deep and while accuracy I think takes a little bit more preference or more favorite to something like a strong armed quarterback or something like that. Still the vertical deep that were Patrick. mahomes entirely killer doing teams are trying to copy and that's what the. Raiders. Wanted to do by bringing in Antonio Brown almost over a year ago now, which was replicate the Patrick Mahomes tyreek hill experience with Derek Carr Antonio Brown. Obviously didn't work out that way but even still today teams including the raiders after drafting Henry Rugs and whoever's going to draft Jalen wild potentially devante Smith, and this year's draft are trying to replicate those speed receivers Antonio Brown has been that. Guy His entire career and has really been at that top tier level at his best Antonio Brown was better version of Tyreek Hill in my opinion just because he could do even more than just those deep vertical threats could run in the slot and things like that. So there's going to be a lot of teams interested. Obviously Seattle is the favorite and that's where I do actually expect him. To go but there are some wrenches that could be thrown in. There could be some teams that could offer something Abe canoe maybe a little bit more than just going to Seattle I. we'll talk about Seattle at the end and why think at Seattle dozen ad in Tonio Brown, they're right up there with coach Super Bowl favorites with the Kansas City chiefs to have them a little bit of A. Knock below right now, I have kind of Kansas City as their own tier right now and just below our teams like Tampa Bay Seattle some of these other teams I'll get into that as well as my top ten NFL teams later on the show but getting back to Antonio Brown, a couple of teams I think should be interested number one came to mind immediately was the Green Bay packers they. Obviously. Just got humiliated by the Tampa. Bay buccaneers I love Demonte, Adams? I, think he's a wide number, one wide receiver in the league him and Aaron obviously fantastic partnership. But the needs to be more weapons on this Green Bay offense. The Aaron Rodgers training needs to keep on rolling and it's sort of hit sort of a road bump up Tim Baking started off. So well started off four. No. Rotate was on the MVP track and I think he through two or three picks and that Tampa Bay game I think he actually through I think he threw three almost four he almost through four he threw three at least I believe and everyone's kind of questioning Aaron Rodgers everyone's like Oh. This is why they drafted Aaron love and all that good stuff. I'm not too worried about Amaradasa they Antonio Brown or not but adding Antonio Brown could sort of solidify the packers as the best team in that division with the bears currently leading in at five Oh one greenest foreign when I believe we're foreign to one of the two If they can add a guy like Antonio Brown as Davante Adams is sort of a bigger, I believe he's around six, two, six, three he can do it all don't get me wrong can take. You can take you off the top as well. Get behind the safeties but adding Antonio Brown if Davante Adams is your number one receiver and Antonio Brown Despite being thirty two years old and being heavily being an elite for over a year now is matched up against your number two corner just thought the division teams right WHO's the number two corner? I'm not thinking cover Antonio Brown same with the Vikings number two corner he can't cover Antonio I. know the Detroit Lions can't cover Antonio Brown's. So just from appeared division standpoint Antonio Brown is going to be able to absolutely torch. You know your second Corner if you're those other teams in the division and going forward in the NFC Antonio Brown is a guy with playoff experience was performed and big games we saw that in. Pittsburgh. including the highest of high levels like the AFC championship game and I believe a super bowl appearance as well. So Antonio Brown is more than just you know what? He's being made out to be right now from a pure football standpoint, the Green Bay packers could really use a guy like Antonio Brown another dynamic playmaker coming off outside the numbers Tony Bracket also play a little bit of slot for Green Bay as well and just give Aaron Rodgers another level because right now with the offense, everybody knows errands going to try to find devante or hand the ball. off to Aaron judge or maybe find Aaron Jones and the flat or you know in the middle of the field something like that as well. Not a great tight end room in Green Bay not a great wide receiver room. Green. Bay. Antonio Brown makes a lot of sense will the interest be mutual I'm sure Antonio would love to play in green bay with Aaron Rodgers a great quarterback like that and get back into contention form he might also be eyeing the seahawks and some of these other teams I will mention but I think agreement should have just as Much interest if not more than Seattle and maybe some of these other teams in adding a guy like Antonio Brown another team that everyone kind of sort of thought of immediately. But as apparently pull themselves out of the Antonio Brown race is the Baltimore Ravens. Now, this is something I don't entirely understand why so I think you know due to Antonio's cousin Hollywood. Brown being on the team he already has a close connection with Lamar Jackson but after they signed Dez Bryant today to the practice squad it sort of Adam schefter and Ian rapoport both tweeted out that. They're out of the Antonio Brown's sweepstakes. They are not going to sign him whether it be week eight or earlier. You know as soon as today even they're not going to sign Antonio Brown and that was something that was really interesting to me personally due to the connection that he has with Hollywood Brown due to the connection he already has with Lamar Jackson to not want to like personally go there is something interesting I believe Antonio Brown wants to go be a Baltimore Raven I think if you could pick any in the world, it actually would go Go to be a Baltimore Raven I think of Antonio Brown had the pick of all thirty, two, thousand thirteen want to go to Baltimore to play with his cousin, his friend, the Mark Jackson as well, and a stick it to the steelers and Big Ben I. Really do believe if any team event Tony Rocket pick any team, it'd be Baltimore, but the interest is obviously have already. Been reported is not reciprocated and I want to know from Baltimore why you have a good team you have a phenomenal defense just added Yanagawa by the way phenomenal run game which AK dominance. Mark. Ingram. Great tight end and Mark Andrews. Great quarterback Lamar Jackson the wide receiver position is the weakness and it's one of the few weaknesses of this Baltimore Ravens team and I would argue. That Baltimore has a worse receiving room then team in Green. Bay that's going to be interested, and then then the team in. SEATTLE. That has already interested in Seattle has better cevers than Baltimore Right now, Tyler Lockett educate metcalf are better than Hollywood. Brown and whoever else they have I think Baltimore and early should have been really really interested in Antonio Brown felt the connection was perfect. I. Thought the fit was perfect and obviously they've worked together before Mark Jackson and Tony Brown is they already have a great run game I think Antonio Brown, the Play Action Game that Baltimore likes to run in that running style which opens up the play action obviously would've been great. I'm not really sure whether isn't reciprocated interest from Baltimore Antonio because I know Antonio Brown one hundred. PERCENT WANTS TO BE Baltimore Raven and would love to do it. The final team I'm going to mentioned to you before I start talking about the Seattle seahawks where I which is where I believe Antonio Brown will end up personally another dark horse team. They were the dark horse team lady on bell sweepstakes I expect them to be the dark horse team in these Antonio Brown sweepstakes. And that's the Miami Dolphins I really do believe that quickly I know a lot of people are GonNa Throw in the New England patriots they're done with Antonio Brown. Bill Belichick is already coached. Him didn't want to deal with at all the allegations I, don't think there's going to be a reunion they're getting back to Miami. Here's why Miami is interesting if you haven't noticed over the. Past two or three weeks Miami has been really really aggressive and looking to add some veteran difference makers they really wanted to go after on bell. In fact, they threw a multiple year contract with a lot of money off to go play with Kansas City did have a chance to win the Super Bowl. They also tried to sign snacks Harrison off I, believe Seattle's practice squad. And he declined he wants to stay with Seattle. So there's just a Lotta moves right now where it looks like, Miami, is looking more like buyers than sellers they see an opening in this division they see that are three, three, one game of Buffalo. They've handed the keys over rookie quarterback to what's hunger by lower who they believe gives them a better chance to win the division go. To the Playoffs Secure Wildcard spot or division championship than Ryan Fitzpatrick. So if they were looking to add another guy to help out to the offensive line's already playing great for Miami right now I like miles gaskin. He's doing great but he's good enough for I, think this season the look at a guy travis ETF analogy Harrison, the draft, a wide receiver, specifically an explosive one downfield. Huge for two or tongue. By Loa, to a loves to throw the ball downfield. He loves the ball. The speedy receivers we saw with Henry. Rugs Jerry Jewish Jerry Jalen Waddell Devante with all of these you know tyreek Hill clones all come through Alabama and to what's on my plate with all three of them, and that's where he had. The most success is throwing the ball vertically. And downfield Chan Galas offense is already prioritizing attacking the middle of the field throwing the ball downfield with precision and accuracy with guys like Devante, Parker, and Preston Williams. But both of those guys are six to I think actually maybe even six three or taller bigger body receivers jump ball guys not the type of guys that are absolutely GonNa burn your corners and safeties and have five. Five yards of space in the middle of the field in the end zone all the way you know, fifty sixty yards down the field they thought they had a guy like that I think and grant. He's proven to be more of just a special teams guy and not really a true number three slot receiver or take you off the top receivers Guy Lynn Boden who still developing as. Well, he's a rookie. This year at Tonio Brown would be perfect to Miami, not to mention Antonio Brown currently lives and trains. In Miami, he is from Miami, Florida grew up probably a dolphins fan. It would be really interesting to see Antonio Brown paired up with to Tunga by low. Again, you would have to big body to receivers in department kick Kinda out run every route. In the row tree pressing Williams, who can do the same thing devante Parker a little bit younger maybe a little bit bigger and not as good just yet as Devante, and then you add a guy like Antonio Brown could operate in the slot can operate. The flat can operate downfield can attack the middle of fuel do anything you ask him to do i? Think that's something you. Need for rookie quarterback. What's on the by law? That's something you need either way even if your best, you maybe maybe Stefan Gilmore when the Fish New England next time is going to match up on Antonio. Then you offer a guy like devante Parker to go against new. England. Second best receiver and Preston Williams against New England's third best receiver. It's just GONNA out open up. Other opportunities for guys like devante or devante Parker Preston. Williams and then of course, I think Antonio Brown would be super productive in Miami with to a tunnel by low throwing the ball downfield I think it'd be a great partnership keep an eye on the Miami Dolphins as an underdog sort of horse team not to mention there's a lot of New England people in that building who maybe They weren't necessarily there when Antonio Brown was New England but could have a similar mindset and see my new England. Signed him last year maybe floors check of a similar mind when it comes to that of course, the final team we're gonNA talk about in the Antonio Brown sweepstakes is where everybody including myself believe he will end up I think Antonio Brown's going to be a Seattle Seahawk. I. Think Miami has a chance. If they throw enough money, Antonio could consider it same thing with Green Bay maybe even a team like. Well I can see I think Kansas City could just you know for the cables and the Lulls? Throw in minimum contract as well. I expected to be a Seattle Seahawk and here's why Russell Wilson him already connection I think Pete Carroll is a very you know pro player coach maybe the most pro player coach in the entire league another guy that kind of does that as Mike Tomlin, I think Antonio Brown liked playing under Mike Tomlin I think he would like playing under Pete. Carroll already mentioned the connection he's had with Russell Wilson as well, and they already have a system that likes to throw the ball downfield Antonio likes to be a downfield threat nobody'll deep ball thrower in the entire NFL than Russell Wilson yes he's better than Patrick. Mahomes at throwing the deep ball gets enough air under it kind of just drops it in perfectly every single time. So Antonio is GonNa love our would love I should say playing with Russell Wilson that's where expect him to go not to mention it would just open up again other opportunities for guys like came. Tyler. Lockett. Maybe, Antonio gets to be covered by the second third best corners on those opposing teams to doesn't even have to go against number one corners if he goes to Seattle because I think de que is considered number one receiver there and Tyler's consider maybe number two. So maybe Antonio Brown's wide receiver three on Seattle facing number three. Corners in the NFL, which is just an unfair matchup and I think Antonio recognizes that if he went to Seattle that would put them as Co. Super. Bowl favorites with Kansas. City if the Seattle seahawks do in debt indeed sign. Antonio. Brown and he's even seventy percent of the player he was in Pittsburgh I almost guarantee you Seattle seahawks playing in the Super Bowl next year that's just how I see it. That's how I believe it and I think this offense I already number one in the NFL right now and points in deep balls and yards per attempt I. Think Seattle's number one and all those categories adding Antonio Brown it's just overkill. And it's really just unfair to give a quarterback like Russell Wilson a talented deep receiver liked that in Antonio Brown, let me know where you guys Tony Brown's GonNa go again I think he's GonNa be a Seattle Seahawk with teams like the dolphins and packers showing a lot a lot of interest limited. You think Antonio Brown is going to that's going to do it for this segment where to take a quick break on the other side of this break WanNa get into all those Ryan. Fitzpatrick. Hotel he was heartbroken that he was benched by the Miami Dolphins in favor of Tongue Bilo. I'll tell you why I still agree with incision Brian floors to start. not this week but the week after against the La Rams after the Miami Dolphins by week this week I'll tell you what I am expecting into a tunnel by Louis debut against the La Rams about I think ten days from today and I'll tell you if to Tunga by Lola gives the dolphins a good chance of making the playoffs can't he lead them to the playoffs his first rookie year I will get into all that good stuff right after this short break. Are you looking for the very best NFL and college football podcast? Then check out the GMC football podcast get the latest football news both on and off the field from the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines they got you covered that's GS. PODCAST DOT com slash football, dash podcasts, get updates. I'm college rivalries keen de Insights and much much more. 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There's it's not just GonNa be those three teams that I mentioned are the couple teams I This going to be a couple of surprise teams a couple teams looking to make the playoffs, a couple of teams that maybe already have some good receivers but are looking to add some more just a couple teams in general who maybe just want to put themselves back on the map things like that teams that are just maybe struggling maybe they're two and four trying to flip the script and. Get into the playoffs I could see it maybe team like the Houston Texans comes to mind the Tennessee titans was already five and keep going things like that So there's GonNa be more teams interested I do expect him however to be a Seattle Seahawk when it's all said and done I, think Antonio Brown there's been interest for just too long. It makes too much sense on both sides. So I really do believe we're going to see Antonio Brown as a Seattle Seahawk. That's just what I believe. Let me know what you all think. Where do you think at least Antonio Brown is going to end up this season. Are I wanna get into now everything to chunk of my low again that was the main story in my last episode but that conversation has been continuing through a couple of days. The dolphins officially announced yesterday that to my lower would be taking over as the starting quarterback for at least the rest of the season. Ryan Fitzpatrick at a lot of interesting quotes on paraphrasing here. But one of them soggy Mohawk he was heartbroken how he really thought that this was his team and that there wasn't a team that showed as much commitment to him as Miami since his buffalo days So it was really there was sort of. This this ongoing conversation of was this the right time to start to tongue of Iowa. Again, Ryan Fitzpatrick, had come back to back blowout victories WanNa get the defending NFC champions. San. Francisco in their building. Then the New York jets at home that three out of their last four, three and three on the season. One game back from the Division One game ahead of the New England patriots in the division. And he gets yanked to start over to talking about alone I. Understand Ryan Fitzpatrick is coming from I do he's playing his best football of his career. He's had back to back really really good Games. Of course, he's put his team in a position to win you make the playoffs something. He hasn't really been in that situation since maybe that one jet year, he made the playoffs or his buffalo days where he was the starting quarterback, they committed to him and he was potentially in the playoffs and if your mind Fitzpatrick feel confident that you could lead that team to the playoffs but at the end of the Day Ryan Fitzpatrick exactly what his job once mentor to its Loa be the style gap and see where it takes you right there. There had to be a plan going into you know when when I refuse to believe that the Miami Dolphins to the season without a of dates at least in the season minimum where they had thought hey to and be able to come in that game against Cincinnati the game against Jacksonville. This game against the rams coming off a bye week right. There were a couple of dates that had to be at least in Ryan Fitzpatrick said where he could think that, hey, maybe they're going to turn over the keys here and yes well, Ryan Fitzpatrick was playing good and winning games I think this was still the right decision I don't WanNa Slight Ryan Fitzpatrick. He played phenomenal Miami again they're three and three one. Game Back One game ahead of New England? One game back of Buffalo going into the bye week winning three other last four and one that one loss was I believe in eight point loss to the Seattle seahawks were currently undefeated. So again, you can make the argument that this move shouldn't have happened. I. Get I get everybody's points but I, still believe this is the right moment. I don't know if there's better timing. I cannot remember a time when there was a mid season change from veteran to rookie quarterback like there is you know once or twice a year in the NFL there's at least one stopgap guy, and then they finally turn it over to the number one overall pick or the number five overall pick the top ten pack or the fourth round draft pick Dak Prescott rate eventually, the veteran gives it over to the rookie all the time there's two or three times a year where this transition happens we saw with borough taking over week one herbert coming in already and now to right. So we see this. Can any of you think of a time? Where the rookie quarterback was draft the top fifteen or ten right was handed the job either due to injury or do poor play right or for any reason. Where the team was playing well, everything was going good right usually, the rookie quarterback gets the team gets handed the keys to the kingdom when everything's going bad and he needs to be the savior, he needs to save the team Joe Bro you need to save Cincinnati Calamar. We just got rid of Josh. Rosen? You need to save Arizona Justin. Harbor. Tyrod Taylor, you need to save the chargers season Baker Mayfield tyrod Taylor gets hurt saved the Cleveland browns franchise. How many times has that happened to guys and how many times has not worked out right. There's one situation where a guy had time to prep watched a winning team and joint that team right started being starting quarterback for that team. When everybody was clicking, everybody's playing confidence that one instance came with Patrick Mahomes and it wasn't even a season change. So I cannot think of a time where there was a mid season change of quarterback where things were going well with the veteran. You're potentially on pace to make the playoffs and you switch to the rookie. That's why everybody's sort of confused about this move, and that's why I absolutely love Brian Floors for making this decision. Why hand your team to the rookie? The Twenty One, twenty, two, year, old rookie this kid who's never taken NFL meaningful snaps unless you count those two why would you hand him that team when? Everything's going wrong when the receivers aren't running the right routes when the offensive line's a mess when the run game can't get going when you've lost sports straight when you're when you're Owen Five, why do you want to give somebody who's new to this job? There's new to this job being an NFL quarterback in that SORTA turmoil and chaos. Why not give it to the guy when? You've won three out of last four when you're wide receivers are playing with confidence. When you're offensive line has looked like it's best in years when the running game is finally running effectively and you've won three out of your last four and you're in the thick of the playoff race when everything's going, right you should be giving it to your rookie quarterback. So it's not all on him to. Doesn't need to save the Miami Dolphins because Devante Parker is playing well because the defense to shut up the New York jets and completely destroyed the San Francisco forty. Now the defense is playing with all time confidence. The offense applying has given up the least amount of Saxony. NFL. According to PF. Why not give the ball to tour time by then not to mention he's coming off a bye week in the La. Rams had to come from the West Coast to the east coast with the La Rams are already streaky team they're coming from the west coast. On the east coast after a short week after I absolutely bloodbath gain that will go back and forth between them in the bears, there is no better time to start tongue of Iowa than right now, and that is why Brian floors made the move because Brian floors is one of the most up and coming coaches in this league. We know this we all love Brian for instance, gets praised in the national media for turning around the dolphins. So quickly for being maybe the one check disciple that looks like he might actually pan out as an NFL coach. This was the right decision. This was the right move to. It's unavailable off a bye week against streaky Ramstein coming off a short week going west coast to east coast home debut Devante Parker playing out of his mind and he's clanged all the confidence, the World Preston Williams coming off back to back touchdown games playing with all the confidence in the World Michael, who's currently having a breakout season playing with all the confidence in the world miles gaskin was one that starting running back job for the Miami Dolphins, running his heart out being effective finally getting his first ever one hundred yards total one hundred yards, scrimmage game against. The New York jets he's playing the best football of his life and this offensive line for the Miami Dolphins of gives have given up the least amount of sex in the NFL with three rookie starting Robert Hunt Sola McKinley and Austin Jackson, are all starting offensive line and they've given up the least amount of sex. The NFL everything is going right for the Miami Dolphins Right now. So what do you do you get better and toured sung by Loa is better than Ryan Fitzpatrick he was drafted to do this. We have seen the best of Ryan Fitzpatrick this is the best. Ryan Fitzpatrick and take you a five hundred record. Some great moments and some bad moments and you're in the hunt, the Miami Dolphins are sick and tired of being in the hunt owner Stephen Ross is sick and tired of being in the hunt Brian floors did not take this job. So he could be in the hunt like the Miami Dolphins had been the past twenty years Chris Greer who worked his ass off and finally got nominated to be the general manager of the Miami. Dolphins after working with them for the past twenty years has seen the dolphins being the hunt and he is sick of tired of just being in the hunt want to make the playoffs they want. To win the division, they want to run this division the next twenty years, the player development a plus everybody's playing with confidence the defense coming off shot at against the New York jets a bi week lambs coming West Coast to east coast offer short week. All of these factors scream everything is falling in place for the Miami Dolphins. So why not put in the guy that you believe over the next five to ten seasons is going to win multiple super bowls to a ton of my lower. I saw a great article by the ringer that was talking about everything I'm talking about with you know fitzpatrick versus to a situation. Was this the right move? Was this not the right move? And, the title of the article is really what stuck with me and why I think this is the perfect statement for this. The Miami Dolphins are not choosing to miss the playoffs. Art are choosing to the Miami. Dolphins are not choosing to miss the playoffs without playing Ryan Fitzpatrick. They are choosing to make the playoffs with tour tongue of Loa at the how the Miami Dolphins Brian Floors Chris, grier Stephen Ross that team the defense, the receivers, the running back the offensive line. All of them belief. To its of Loa is the best quarterback on that roster at least the coach Jam believe it, which is why they're putting him in. Now when there's an opportunity to strike when the dolphins next seven six games are easier than the Patriots next six games and easier than Buffalo's next six games, the Brian Florus crispier. They see an opportunity to not just have a really good year developmental wise to get the young guys playing well to take another step forward in this book the Miami Dolphins are done rebuilding. They see an opportunity to win the wildcard spot as there's a new playoff team this year, there's an extra playoff team. They see an opportunity to win this division and beat up. Buffalo New England they see an opportunity to have home playoff game this winter. That's what the Miami Dolphins want. They think to talk by lower can deliver that to them and isn't that what every dolphin fan thanks isn't that what every NFL fan thought when they drafted. that. He was the guy going forward that he's the one who's going to lead them to the playoffs one who's GonNa win the Super Bowl nobody thought Ryan Fitzpatrick was going to do that because he can't. He doesn't do that Ryan Fitzpatrick gets you six and ten, seven, and nine, eight, and eight, three and three. And that's where he gets you and that's it to a song of I low on the other hand for the Miami Dolphins can get you ten and six eleven and five playoff appearances. Super Bowls down the line MVP's down the line. That's the type of player they believe they have down in Miami. That's why this is the perfect opportunity. Give this man two weeks to prepare for the LA rams defense. Yes. Aaron Donald Stare yesterday Ramsey's there. It's going to be a tough first game. Let Him. Let him take over now I love this decision from Brian. Floors. It's the I I think I've ever seen amid season change when everything's going right usually again, this quarterback has handed the tools when everything's going poorly when everything's going wrong. But now finally rookie quarterback gets to come in when everything's going right. The last time that happened was Patrick mahomes everything was great the. Receivers were playing well, the running back was great. The running back was coming off his best career game. The offensive line is giving up the least amount of sex defenses coming off a shutout no better time to start to a tongue by lower than right now for the next few minutes now I WANNA compare to tongue potential debut to what Joe, Joe Borough and Justin Herbert did. I ever NFL Games. All right. So I believe Thursday I think that that should be first ever, Joe. Borough. Game I believe was against the Cleveland Browns the obviously lost it was joe burrow through the balls that was his second career start believe let's start off with Justin Herbert just in Herbert in his first career game. Against I think it was Kansas City. Had A good game not a great game Justin Herbert on the season so far has thousand one, hundred, ninety, five yards, nine touchdowns, three picks qbr of seventy two. Let's look at just in Herbert's considered best game. His best game so far I believe you could say against Carolina where he threw for three hundred and thirty yards touch on a pick or you can say against the New Orleans. Saints to let's go to New Orleans Saints Game Twenty One, thirty, four, hundred and sixty, four, yards fifty, eight, percent completion percentage four touchdowns no picks is that what was going to do in his debut probably not but something similar just you know just in Herbert's first game where he had a touchdown to the pick a lot of yards Joe Berle against Cleveland if you remember that game had Everyone considers you know his his his better better game at least. His first ever game. If you want to go through comparison like that was against the charges obviously, he went twenty three of thirty, six, hundred, ninety, three yards and no touchdowns in a pick. So that was Joe Boroughs debut game. Now let's go quickly in just in Herbert's debut game where he had I believe it was against Kansas. City. I said he third twenty, two of thirty, three, three, hundred eleven yards a touchdown to pick. So when Joe Borrow on his rookie debut has what hundred thousand eight? Hundred ninety, three yards. No touchdowns. touchdowns Pick Justin, Herbert in his debut had three hundred eleven, yards, a touchdown, and a pick. Where can we expect from to a ton of low in his debut? Because there are a lot of people including myself who had to talking about low as the number one quarterback prospect over Joe Borough. I believe to it's low. It's going to find somewhere in the middle. I don't know if he's going to throw for three hundred eleven yards like just in. Herbert. Did I expect to talking about lower though to be the first quarterback out of all of these rookie quarterback are multiple touchdowns in his debut that's what I think. We'll do thank tool. We'll throw for probably between two hundred and twenty and two hundred and seventy yards. I don't think get to three hundred. The dolphins offense has a lot of run run running packages to begin with love miles gas of the offensive line I think he will throw at least two touchdowns. That's what I'm expecting to a ton of Lois debut. I'm really excited to see again this is the perfect moment for to start. It is the perfect time. I'm so excited to watch that game versus the rams ten days from today when you listen to let me know, would you have started? To a tongue of Iowa now or would you waited for Ryan Fitzpatrick to Become Ryan? It's tragic and start him. Then would you do like the decision starting when the three and three do you trust him to lead them to you playoff race? What do you guys think about the whole ton of Iowa Situation Arbor take another short break on the other side of this short break, we're going to be giving you my top ten NFL teams heading in two weeks seven. We'll get into all that good stuff and that top ten list of NFL teams going into week seven right after this short break. Check out the show that's built on the MMA from UFC two extreme cage fighting. 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Don't think I've ever seen a midseason change where the rookie is actually getting to start in a good situation where the team has has been winning games defense has been playing well again I don't see a better opportunity for to a tongue of. then. This game I really do believe that two of my law turns out to be the player he's supposed to be the dolphins could win the division. This season I really do believe that if he has a rookie year like Andrew Luck that Shawn Watson had, the dolphins are a real threat to win the AFC east over both buffalo and New England, and it's all going to start potentially ten days from today. When makes his debut against the rams not this week but the week after that, I want to switch gears now to my top ten NFL teams, I. Haven't done this since I believe after week four. So about two weeks later, I'm giving you my top two NFL teams were six weeks through the year. Everybody's played about six games now and going forward everyone's got about ten games left I want to give you my top ten NFL teams, two teams that are in there that are playing I. Guess You could consider what or not in their New Orleans in Buffalo are not top ten teams in my opinion both of them I believe our foreign to I think actually New Orleans might be three into drew brees. Look shot that team is not playing on that defense is not great This is spoiler alert, but I think they might actually lose the Sunday to Carolina and Buffalo has dropped to straight they beat up on some bad teams. The first four weeks of the year haven't able to beat the teams don't get me wrong. They played Tennessee and Kansas City to top ten teams which I will both talk about in the Sangam. But at the end of the day Josh Allen is getting exposed as the quarterback is, which is a guy that isn't gonNA be above. Average NFL defenses above average NFL team. So I don't have either of those two teams on this list for my top ten teams with all that being said, let's get into that list these these in my opinion of the top ten teams in the national football. League. Through week six. So we have week seven coming up this year. So three weeks, six weeks of the season. These are my top ten NFL teams coming in at number ten is the team that just beat the buffalo bills the artsy through the Dallas cowboys, the Arizona cardinals coming in at four into. The cardinals are finally starting to click here a little bit. They had a little bit of a slow start. I think integrating the new weapons De'andre Hopkins trying to get Kenyan Drake back on track that offensive line is angry that defenses in great. This is a streaky teen specifically when it comes to their offense, that's what the air raid system will do. That Mike Leach system that we're seeing in Mississippi states a little bit inconsistent cliff kings varies air raid offense with Calamari seems to be a little bit inconsistent. But when they're clicking, they are firing on all cylinders they usually put up thirty plus points when everything's going right as we saw the Dallas cowboys where they put up what thirty eight points on them. So I think the kernels are still a top ten teams in the League I. Think they're one of the most dynamic offense in the league and I think they're finally starting to click your a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised the carnal sort of rattle off a couple of wins in a row here. Maybe not this weekend against Seattle. But after this weekend sort of maybe win two three straight games here and The cardinals coming in at number four at number ten, going four into number nine is there actual division partner in the rams? They're a really good team again, just like the cardinals are a little bit of a streaky team they're coming in and foreign to think Sean mcvay is still a top ten maybe even top five coach in the NFL jerk off sort of having a little bit of a resurgence season here. There are a couple of games and a couple of decisions where you were looks like Jared Goff from last year. But there's a plenty of moments where it looks like Jared Goff two years ago where they made the Super Bowl against doing if you remember that game ranch coming in at number nine coming in at four and two, I think they're a good team I don't know if they're a great eighteen but a man, this division Nfc West is absolutely incredible the seahawks. So I will obviously get to our five hundred rams to cardinals foreign to San Francisco who a pretty good team is what three and three. So I mean there's a lot of teams division I mean the opposite of. The. NFC East, they are the best team in the division by far one of the best football divisions of all time. If I'm perfectly being honest, Iran's coming in at number nine at four and two. I, believe there are second place in that division right now I, have them a little bit above the rams are above the cardinals I think they're a little bit more consistent than the cardinals are the cardinals if with both teams are on their best day, I think the cardinals would beat the rams but I, think the rams have better chance of being on their best day than the cardinals do as of right now, that's a close one but I have the rams over the cardinals rams coming. In at number nine with a four and two record number eight, the Chicago bears they are five and one top. This division I'd like to see them beat me a couple better teams. I'd like to see them blow out some bad teams have been able to do that just yet their first test will be this Monday night against the rams. That's the game of the week for me man five and one Chicago bears four to La Rams. I think it'll be a fantastic game that's the biggest test of Nick foles in the Chicago bears so far can they take it to the La Rams and beat a really good La Rams team in Los Angeles, and then after that, we can start having. Conversations on if they're real real contenders to win this division with a team like Green Bay coming in at number eight Chicago five and one that just keep figuring out ways to win games. So that's why I like them. I Love Nick foles other coming in and five, hundred, one, nine, eight, Chicago bears number seven is their division rival. The Green Bay packers. They're not winning this division right now, but they are foreign one coming off a tough loss to Tampa Bay I'm not too worried about Aaron Rodgers, I think he's still in the MVP conversation had one of the worst games of his career against Tampa Bay but that doesn't mean that the sky is falling that doesn't mean you know. The the season's over for them or anything like that. This team is still a really good team Aaron Rodgers is still a really good quarterback I expect. Green Bay to continue to be really really good. They can't win them all. They'RE NOT GONNA go sixteen four and one Green Bay packers coming in at number seven for me. I still expect them to win this division again, I like Chicago again, they just talked about they came in at number eight. On this list I still expect Green Bay to win kind of win this division I think winning by Multiple Games as we'll packers coming in. At number seven on my top ten NFL teams list coming in at number six, the first undefeated team in the day the Pittsburgh steelers I gotTa admit. The steelers are way better than I thought I knew their defense would be really good. My question was big Ben Big Ben seems to be just like the player was pre you know elbow or shoulder surgery, and whatever he had, and what better organization seriously is better at drafting wide receivers in the Pittsburgh steelers it's a revolving door Antonio Brown comes in and now Mike Wallace comes in and out you know all these guys just keep. In and out right hines word in and out, and all they do is somehow draft another really good receive right we they lost Antonio Brown and last year was just Ju and everyone was like Oh this wide receiver enough now deontay Johnson looks like a stud cheese clay pull out of Notre Dame looks like an absolute stud I don't think better organization. Drafting specific positional trying to think are there any other teams that consistently have a really good positional group I'm trying to think I think the way New England drafts quarterbacks is probably up there Jimmy Garoppolo Jacoby considerable starting caliber quarterbacks office Jimmy's you just went to a super bowl not to mention Brady and whoever they eventually draft. So I probably put New England's quarterback drafting up there I'd like I, just mentioned Pittsburgh's. Wide Receiver drafting is absolutely ridiculous and Yeah. Those two are. But specifically San Francisco the excuse me specifically Pittsburgh the way they draft wide receivers they looked like absolute studs they come in at number six, the Pittsburgh steelers are five no coming in at number five is their division rivals were kinda coming up on a pattern a little bit here the Baltimore Ravens they're five and one I cannot wait I believe it's the same week actually I think it's not this week but the week after I believe week eight, we're finally getting our first matchup between Ravens and steelers there's some rumors are gonna be it could be flexed the Sunday night. Absolutely love that that's going to be A. Phenomenal game in I. Think this is the best both Baltimore and Pittsburgh have been a long time usually when they're both really good one team is clearly better than the other. I don't see that this year I'm not saying Baltimore's clearly better than Pittsburgh not saying that Pittsburgh's clearly better than than the multiple I? Think they're honestly tied I think Baltimore's a little bit worse than they were last year maybe addition the Gabrielle changed that plus maybe if Brian passed his physical and work his way up the depth chart as well but Pittsburgh man that defense is legit do everything they can to stop Lamar Jackson and if If Pittsburgh can get a lead on Baltimore. They could run away with it I really like this Pittsburgh. Baltimore sort of rivalry this year, I think it's the best. It's been in years right now it's slight but I'm GONNA put the Ravens ahead of the steelers because I haven't seen the steelers do it to like that team that really really good team. It's this weekend they're playing the titans at they beat the titans they will come up this list one hundred percent, but I'm not too confident they can do that just yet. So steelers at six ravens at five coming in at number four, we're getting in the top four teams now of the NFL so far in my opinion top. Four number four Tampa Bay buccaneers coming off a huge win thirty eight to ten win over the Green Bay packers I think mentioned this in the my last episode on their best day. I. Think Tampa Bay might be the best team in the entirely Todd Bowles coached up this defense to the potentially number one defense in the getting their number one right now I bet they'll finish the season around top five ish is my guess this offense when it's clicking, we Mike Evans gets going with Chris Collin gets back and healthy rob Gronkowski starting to look like the guy they signed more than. Just a block or now caught a touchdown had seventy plus receiving yards when this team is fully clicking on offense and defense and everybody's healthy. For Tampa, Bay I'm not sure there's anybody that is better bay coming in at number four with a record of foreign to coming in at number three. Our next undefeated team on the list Tennessee titans man we gotta start giving credit to my well, he's a top three coaching football. He is just right now he's up there with Bela checking Andy Reid. He just is this team is undefeated. They have recaptured the magic of last season with. Ryan Tannehill taking a to another step. Absolutely unbeatable. Right now, when it comes to run game, nobody can stop their offensive line and Derrick Henry Ryan. Tannehill has seemed to take a step up. Then he was last year he's he's playing better this year than he was last year Asia Brown looks really really good this year as well that defense after adding clowney has taken another step. This Tennessee Titans team is legit. They can win a super bowl. I. Fully believe that Tennessee Titans I understand our quarterback and he's not considered this worldly talent that maybe Lamar Russell and and Patrick Mahomes as. We gotta keep a real this. Is Not Ryan Tannehill we saw in Miami, this is a completely different Ryan. He's an elite level quarterback right now he's an MVP candidate he's one to percent MVP candidate and I think he could win it. I think it's GonNa come down to him and also Wilson the Tennessee Titans are legit this year I expect them to be in the AFC championship game if not further when it comes to play off time that team is insane they know what their identities they know no team knows their identity more perfects it better right now, Tennessee that used to be New England for years and years. And Years New England new team they were and they would perfect it not so much this year Tennessee knows the type of team they arthur that bruiser team there that hard physical team and no team has perfected their style more than Tennessee has this year one hundred percent of the Tennessee titans coming in at number three for eight five, zero undefeated record coming in at number two is the Seattle seahawks they're also undefeated had a bye week last week I love everything Seattle's doing again I talked about them a lot in the Antonio Brown's segments all keep them short top two team in football. I. Think if they add Antonio Brown, this should be super bowl favorites with kids city who obviously coming in at number one I? Understand that undefeated that top loss to Las Vegas raiders two weeks ago Still Kansas City chiefs are still the best team in the League Best Quarterback Best Offensive Coaching combination I expect them to be back in the Super Bowl. They also just added Leon Bell who was not even made his debut. So coming in at number one is the Kansas City chiefs for me. So the run through the list again one Kansas City number two, Seattle number three Tennessee number four, Tampa Bay. Number Five Baltimore number six Pittsburgh number seven green bay number eight Chicago number nine Los Angeles the rams that is never ten the Arizona cardinals those are my top ten teams in the NFL this season through six weeks. Let me know what you think about my list. Would you have on who would you have off? Let me know on social media or in the comments going to do it for this segment on the other side of the segment for as long as I can. I'll be going through as many NBA rumors that we have going on right now I feel just give you a daily. At least weekly segment every single week early, just going through all the NBA rumors. What's the the? 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Alex, thank you much for tuning into today's episode to be continuing to listen to the show. If you are returning listener, we really really do appreciate it here at GMC sports podcast for the today's final segment I wanna talk about to one piece of NBA news. One piece of MBA rumors in the NBA off season is the gift that keeps on giving and the big part of the season hasn't even happened yet, which is of course free agency. And the draft, the first one is in the actual official piece of news the New Orleans Pelicans finally found their head coach. They seem to be one of the few people still looking for one. I believe Houston's also still looking for their head coach and I think they would be that would kind of wrap up the NBA coaching Carousel, they opt for Stan. Van Gundy announcer for ESPN who also coached teams I believe the magic, the heat and the Pistons of the three teams. He coached Stan Van Gundy around the League is known as a really great teacher a really great guy. Overall he's been sort of known as player development type coach, a guy who is pretty big and I I don't know if you how big he wasn't Dwayne Wade's development back in I. Think it was two thousand and three and two thousand and four is when I believe he coached eating coach that Miami Championship team but he did help way to get to the player he was a so he's been a big player Development Guy I. Think he was pretty big player moment for Orlando on top. Of Detroit I'm excited to see Stan I. think he is a really good dude I think he's a really good coach Is He the type of coach? That's GonNa Championship I'm not sure but of all the options available, I do not hate the Stan Van Gundy head coaching higher I think it'll be good for Zion Williams and I think he's a really good player development coach I think is really good with coaching young players as well and other some old tweets that were dug up about. Kyle or about stamping gundy pretty much immune. It has his tweet about how good the PELICANS bright future is with all these young players. So I think. Stanton. Actually really likes this current roster New Orleans to win surprise me if they kind of just running back with the same Ron roster that being resigning brandon. Ingram not trading Lonzo and trying to see what the New Orleans Pelicans come from a standpoint of next season. But I like the Stan gundy higher out of all the options left my number one choice. For New Orleans have been billy Donovan, I think he's the best player development coach in the NBA or at least one of them would have loved to see him as the Pelicans head coach. You obviously opt for Chicago Stan Gun is a pretty good option however, as well as the next head coach of the new. Orleans. Pelicans. Be Final thing I would like to talk about is a rumor coming out of the athletic. That agents believed that Kawhi Leonard is currently on pace to leave. That's as right leave. The Los Angeles Clippers in two thousand twenty one is that going to happen is severely doubt it but there's one area where it does make sense if the clippers underperforming against next season. They got rid of Doc rivers who apparently quiet Leonard loved playing for and wanted to go to Los Angeles to play four Doc rivers replaced him with blue. If the Los Angeles Clippers do not get to at least a conference finals next year. Then there's some serious discussions on if Kawhi Leonard Leaving Twenty Twenty One and the only team that came to mind with me and twenty twenty one is obviously the Knicks are going to go hard. The Lakers are GonNa go heart I say that every time a free agents available but the Miami Heat all right Jimmy Butler and quite Leonard have a close friendship there they're already Almost. Played with each other. If you remember the number one guy, the coin Leonard wanted to play for play with in Los Angeles Not Paul George. It was Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler is obviously been a finals could be back to a final soon as next season may be win a championship next season with the Miami he maybe if they don't get their next year, the missing piece that would put them immediately as the top team in the NBA and my opinion I think it's going to happen absolutely not but we got address the rumors circulating around the against the clippers. Maybe disappoint. Everybody again, next season, maybe he doesn't like playing tie Lou and then all of a sudden, you could really consider the clippers going into a little bit of a little bit of a rebuild mode or something like that as a failed experiment, and maybe maybe declining does go to a new team who knows all right that's wanted to do it for today's episode of the GMC sports podcast brought to you by the GMC. PODCAST number again, I have been your host Alex. masks for. 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Better Rivals Ep. 293: The final 53, plus a preview of week 1 vs the Bucs

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Better Rivals Ep. 293: The final 53, plus a preview of week 1 vs the Bucs

"Want to know more about what your favorite ninjas have on their minds. Check out the american ninja warrior podcasts. It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for any ninja warrior fan welcome to this week's edition of the niners nation dot com better rivals podcast. My name is oscar appreciative theo and this week football is officially here. The initial forty niners roster is set and there were a few surprises although not many and with me me this week the newest applicant for the texas general manager job. It's cal- posey supplies. We haven't got fired for all those batteries. Are you so basically you're looking to get fired from being the general manager for a team. That hasn't general manager. That's a little bit like getting fire on your day off. Basically you are friday. We'll take shake it. That's my golden life right there all right man the n._f._l. World is upside down. I wanna hear all about it. <hes> what what were your thoughts when you saw that trade with virgin verge david clowney who of course now comes in the division and you're like okay for a third round pick and players that they were gonna cut right for nobody's and and and there was a running joke obviously that you know bill o'brien thinks he's getting back a first rounder himself. He's getting back barker c._b._s. Mingo my initial thought was those who else called the texans after that just offering the most ridiculous deals like if you're john lynch. Do you say hey let me offer you. One slightly unused marquees goodwin for i don't know a fourth round pick and you give me back the andre hopkins houses. Oh yeah i'm one hundred percent centrating joshua garnett over there like how how could you not trade garnett over there. That's the one thing that's just throwing off. Here's garnet. I promise you he's really good. Let's go ahead and just get nook. Let's do you take you take garnett giving me back. What we'll call it. I'm into it. I'm so that's probably who they would go after too because they would exactly one another lineman they wouldn't go for a wide receiver. They wouldn't go for a safety. They wouldn't go for even like a slightly used tire matthew they would go for another alignment because hey niners finders but that's not even the most interesting football story i read this week i read there is a human being in the world whose name and i quote is dick coldest to do it crawford. That's his full name. I have not stopped thinking about this for at least three days. How at what point are you going to change your twitter twitter handle to coldest avenue and and for those that don't know he is not lying. It sounds just like it's pronounced announced d. e. c. o. l. d. s. t. middle name t. o. E. v. a. d. i._t. Doco this don't don't sleep on the capital either. It's t. o. Capital e. via they didn't even capitalize the anyways all right kyle kyle editor at niners nation dot com here to talk about two major things. Let's talk about the roster and then let's get to a week when preview for tampa bay because the roster yeah well they had some surprises had some not so surprises but the big news coming off the roster is that they kept some extra players at certain positions of course. They kept three quarterbacks now. Mcmullan's is officially the backup quarterback c._j. Beathard being the third quarterback unlikely inactive on game days and of course they four tight ends cadence smith traffic and dan living toilolo who also managed to make the roster. Were there anything other than those two items that really surprised you from the niners final cuts. Yes i think you have to talk about the mantra more just how productive he was during the preseason and i mean he just he did everything you look for you. Bring in a guy bring in a guy at a position position of need produces and you cut him and you leave four tight ends and these four tight ends better be phenomenal special teamers. I'm talking kareem making <unk> moster blush <hes>. I just really think that that was. I mean it's a shot in the dark. It's a you're kind of hoping we'll probably get to this as well keeping three quarterbacks your assume assuming that you can get a train for c._j. Beathard but the cutting macho more or and also rolling with three safeties at the time. I know they've added x._m. But it's just <hes> this is a little bit of a head scratcher. What about you. What do you think i really got to think that three quarterbacks is is is just trade fodder because at that point you don't dress one of them and i know that you're thinking yourself. Oh well. These are three n._f._l. Cal quarterbacks but i mean are they are they. They've really. I think it's just gotta be trade. It has to be and i hope they can flip c._j. Beathard repick but at this point knowing that he's third quarterback they lose a little bit of leverage and a and really i think they're not if they can get a fifth or at most fourth round pick. They've gotta do it but reports were that they wanted a third round pick and that's that's rich man. I don't know that they're gonna be able to pry that from other teams cold hanes because you drafted a player in the third round does not mean he has third round value and i think just looking back at some of the the recent pigs joshua garnett does not have first round value just yeah just go down the line. I mean there's a few of them just these guys because they were taking it doesn't mean you're going to get that and i would love to get a fifth round pick for c._j. Beathard like that would be an ideal scenario. I mean obviously a third round would be great in a perfect world but that's just not not realistic so you said you hit it on the head there call shanahan his he's basically betting on himself and on his front office and on c._j. Beathard author that you will be able to flip him for another pit now. Interesting with jerick mckinnon of course ends another year on injured reserve. He's going to have a procedure on his knee and then effectively ends ends year because he was moved to injured reserve before he made the initial fifty three. His year is toast. He is not eligible to come back in the the middle of the year light contagious street but what's interesting is i saw a lot of fans on twitter and a lot of people talking about this was a terrible signing because of the injury and i think that's absolutely the wrong takeaway that the issue was not that you've got injured injuries happen and it sucks and you can never predict that someone's going to get torn the the issue is that the forty niners even after ezekiel elliott's brand new sparkling new deal still have the most number of cap dollar's tied up in the running back position a position in that yes gets injured at a little higher than most other positions but a position that you can get equal production for not spending as much money i mean kevin coleman and matt brita data when you look at next year's cap combined are going to combine for about eight point nine million dollars in cap space whereas if jerick mckinnon stays next year and does not restructure restructure his deal he's at about eight point eight million so you take two running backs that are going to be serviceable for the entire year this year and they amount to one jerick mckinnon. It's it's not that jerick. Mckinnon knee was the issue. It's that it was an overpay when they did it and the worst case scenario happened and now they're likely going to need to restructure his deal if he's is going to play a snap and a forty niner in uniform do you think he plays snapping a forty niner uniform not without a restructure his cap number is eight point point eight million or eight point nine million next year and unless that number comes down. I think it's absolutely going to be a cut type of situation because the way the guaranteed money came out on the deal all the guaranteed not the money was basically paid in the first two years. I think his cap it reduces to something really really palatable next year and so i think unless it's at least guarantees he's come down to something really palatable. Dead money comes down to something reasonable so unless he restructures. I don't think that he does and especially brita and cullman have a good year. There's just there's no reason to do it. Yeah i just can't imagine just watching watching the kitten and coming away thinking that you know this guy is going to change my offense. Obviously he's the very fast but if you if you just have seen him play with the vikings. He never really made people miss. He was just running straight very fast and that was that was his calling card. I know the other other. The other running back in the free agency in that class was dion lewis who was a very good inside runner and what are the forty niners lack right now and inside runner. I know one hundred ninety five pounds sounds but for a team that runs zone that relies on runners at have vision theon louis was probably a better cut. <hes> just a better signing so if you want to just be mad that'd mckinney and it's not so much the injury is the money that they have allocated to the position as well as the player that they've signed. Yeah i think if you look at over the cap and you look at his dead the money the the niners would actually say four and a half million dollars and i think the net is going to be a five hundred dollars or five hundred fifty thousand dollar cap savings and twenty twenty if they cut him of course if they keep him his salary becomes guaranteed and then all of a sudden he's there for the the full eight and a half million so it sucks because i do think actually mckinnon is is a player that shanahan would've used very well but shanahan has a player that he can use similarly. I think do jacque mackinnon in tevin coleman. He just got him for for a hell of a lot cheaper because the skill that's that shanahan looks for is easier to find with running backs when coleman and breda but you look at some of the other other players at the niners cut adrian colbert. He is the forty niners acres. He flew a little too far to the sun are too close to the sun and now he is on the forty. Niners injured reserve likely will get an injury injury settlement in joshua garnett. Thank you alluded to it earlier man he does not have i value he was not an shouldn't i pick but he's now no longer a forty niner. I hope he gets picked up by another team. Likely about our scheme fit but it just never came together for the forty niners and these aren't really surprised god's the writing was kind on wall colbert been banged up only a couple of games in the preseason and it just seems like he he was never really taking the next step. You know you want a guy. That's that is aware when he's in coverage in colbert seems like he's he does pretty good job coming forward but when he does that he tends to older run some plays and he just kind of a little too reckless reckless for my liking and i think that had something to do with it. As wellman garnet i think is really good. Call about scheme fit he he will be a solid player and as i hope you know what's gonna happen is he's going to go to a team. He's going to go to a team that runs a bunch of power and you know those types of fit in the gaps game and he's never going to miss another snap in his life like you understand. That's how this works right. Oh absolutely he's going to end up yeah. He's already visited with the seahawks. He's going to be a lifelong seahawk and it's going to be wonderful. He's going to have a long career there. Maybe get a pro bowler too you because that's that's the way the world works. I don't think that the seahawks are good scheme for him because they're another zone blocking scheme. I do think a team like the baltimore. Ravens could be interesting because they're going to run a lot. They're gonna run some gap scheme that are going to run a bit more power. They're going to run the ball a lot and garnett. He succeeded at stanford at pulling as long as you keep players players on a straight line track in front of it was just the agility and the lateral movement that he wasn't super good at that was always a problem for him. You know when thinking about adrian colbert i i think about something that dan hartman who is the head of scouting scouting academy set about players and you said oftentimes we think that the players going to develop linearity and that the way they are is a rookie as the worst they're ever going to be in the n._f._l. And that may not be the case like sometimes when we see a rookie performed for whatever reason that it might be the best that they're ever going to be in the n._f._l. And whether it be because of injuries or regression or scheme or whatever they may never reach that height and unfortunately that seemed to be the case with colbert colbert least with this time of the forty niners and i hope that that's not the case for him as a player because i think he's a good human but it just didn't work out with the forty niners. That's a good point in in matt. Kalil i think is a really good example of that where i think he made the pro bowl as left tackle and he's out there and his name being floated around there with the forty niners where he got a really good rookie season and then you just kind of get exposed you put some things on tape and you never really take the next step and whatever it may be but you kinda just plateau as a rookie and sometimes you turn the wrong direction yeah. I think you mentioned offensive line and that's probably where the niners are the shakiest. Is that swing tackle. I don't think justin school is the answer. He is probably ably a practice squad player and i don't know i mean i think the team kept him on there because they felt like they drafted him and they needed to keep them on there for a year but depth that swing tackle is definitely needed the niners are definitely looking to add a player in that department and they're going to need to because if anything happens to mcglinchey staley. It's going to be pretty disastrous. Yeah good night and i think that is not a great mindset to have just because you drafted a player especially in the six round where there's a you're not gonna hit on a six rounder. Odds are odds. Pretty much are not getting it on six rounder so with that said because school looked completely out of his depth. There were some very bad rep said that he had on tape and it wasn't just in the preseason games. He was getting blown up in practice as well and i think it it's just best and i know you wanna develop him. Use your six rounder but i mean just move on. There's nothing wrong with admitting a mistake and i it might not be fair to call it a mistake but this is the business of trying to turn over your roster and trying to get better than the forty niners has done a good job with that last couple of years but i don't know that keeping school around is the best way. I certainly think that it's too early to call him a mistake sake but he needs some seasoning. He needs some salt and i don't know that the roster is i mean that's what the practice squad is exactly four and so i think he was probably deserving of a roster spot on the practice squad squad but the the niners of kept them and now with glutz at at quarterback tight end. You have the inability to keep extra players at a place where you might need them like the offensive line. I think that there's something interesting. <hes> that's a theme that i've seen over the off season that has continued with the players on the roster. So far and that's really the important important position coaches you look at a couple players jeremiah velo aga who's now on the practice squad and as he's al share who's made the fifty three both of those have interesting stories when it comes to position russian coaches you've got jeremiah va laga who's with chris kosoric as an undrafted player caught on with the lines in two thousand seventeen of course chris rock was the defensive line coach at the time kosoric surrick then moves to miami lo and behold you got on the practice squad there and then kristiangaric comes to the forty niners and follow aga is reprising his role as chris concert historic favorite practice squad player and so i think you've got certainly a lot of influence there when it comes to the position coach picking player and influencing the roster and i think i think that it's important to note that position coaches aren't just the dressing on the wall. They can actually have a real impact on the players who end up with and how they develop i've been there's no doubt about i i think we underwrite position coaches and just value that they have in being able to take a player to the next step and i think that we will be able to see that with joe woods this year specifically typically when he's getting his hands on a talented safety in various more getting his hands on a talented quarterback achilles witherspoon just gotta saying their confidence growing their physicality. I think we saw that in the preseason where witherspoon was coming up and making plays against the run. I was really good to see. I don't think we really saw that last year so oh. I definitely think that the forty niners position coaches have have made a significant impact early on and you look at one of the preseason kind of story of the year ear players as these alshon air. He's from hillsborough county in florida of course which tampa is the largest city so he's gonna come back for a little bit of a homecoming in week one but chris kiffin was his defensive coordinator and linebackers coach at f._a._u. Back in two thousand seventeen and now of course chris given is what the forty niners and that's how i'll share eventually got on the forty niners radar dr and now he's made the fifty three. I mean store is pretty amazing. He was a sophomore in high school. When his grandmother's house burned down he was living in and out of hotels. He had a ride a bus us two and a half to three hours to get to school and dropped off his little brothers and sisters to school on the way which is why it took him to three hours to get to school and he's basically just persevere severe and you know he's he's one of those real started from the bottom stories and i'm really happy he made the roster <hes> because a few weeks ago i read that story and i was like man. If anyone has the ability to make it i i think he can not just because he's got a story about because he's a good player and frankly i think he's played just as good as drake greenlaw. Who's been getting more hype. This preseason yes naturally greenlaw is gonna get hype just because he was a higher draft pick or an actual draft pick and he made the splash plays and now he's a starter so <hes> but if you watch out you're here if you saw him in college but he had a thousand tackles during his career uses all over the place in his ceiling is probably higher. It'll take some type just because he's coming off that injury but i think a year from now really get a chance to see the type of athletes out shahir was but i'm i'm interested to see him. I'm interested to see on how to make a ryan says another position coach at man i if you just kinda see him interact with players and see the type of control that he takes when when when he speaks in how everybody look stores he seems like out of all the players at all the coaches that we've mentioned he seems like a guy that would absolutely be a good defensive coordinator near disease. I'll share only missed tackles in the preseason and this is one hundred twenty four total plays. He was very very good and coverage because his athleticism really shined in coverages. I mean he's a really really fast guy and he did recover from his injury. I think really fast and he had a great coverage ability in the pre preseason. He's got seven stops overall and not just in the past game. That's total now only allowed for reception so this is a player. I think that looks like an n._f._l. Athlete and when you when you take a player like a share and you're looking at a school like florida atlantic. I'm i don't know i mean you've got kiffin but whatever ultimately the what helps those players shine in the n._f._l. Is their athletic ability and he has that in spades. This is how someone like. Matt breda translates to the n._f._l. Because he is a ridiculous was athlete and i think i'll share is in that category as well so i'm super excited to watch his career with the forty niners hope successful and i do think that he will probably ably press next year as you say for some serious for some serious for some snaps yeah and i think that i have take here by the way i think that and we don't talk about linebacker. We should talk about linebacker. The way we talk about running backs just how they're replaceable and i feel like if given the opportunity out here here would probably be able to put up the same sort of statistics that quantum alexander would this year and i love the energy that quantity under brings. I think he's done a great job of bringing bringing the best out of fred warner what as far as on the field production goes. I would feel comfortable rolling out a rookie there. There's gonna be some bumps in the road of course but over the course of the season as an obviously throughout his career or the next few the next few seasons of quantum is supposedly going to play out his contract. I would take the undrafted free agent enroll with him but what i mean that's a whole other discussion while you're not gonna find too much disagreement about linebackers and the lack of their importance on this podcast my friend <hes> it sounds like you've been listening listening to the show once or twice but i do think that i would still put running back under the linebacker and the totem pole of importance but overall i yeah i do think that al share can affect the game the same way that kwan alexander does which is in the passing game because quantum alexander is a better coverage defender than run-defender and you know what in today's n._f._l. It's probably for the best it's because i think how linebacker affects defense is better than the passing game than necessarily in the run game. I have a a friend justice mosquito. He's a he's a. He has a quote and he tells me this all the time. Linebackers are just trained pigs. How do you feel about that. I mean look. There's no reason to insult pigs. Okay actually i. I'm not here for this pig slender all right i actually i i should not. I saw someone walking pig last week while i was getting a burger at this place called hop daddy here austin texas and they were full on just walk in the pig had a leash on an everything is just a pot-bellied kicking it. Maybe it was his own personal linebacker but let's get to the forty niners roster because overall. I think it's interesting to compare their oscar to a couple of teams that are contenders or our division rivals that are thought to be a team that could make the playoffs because this is is the year for the forty niners where it's it's really win now by win. We don't necessarily mean eleven twelve thirteen wins but i think everyone is really thinking that it's playoffs at this point or bust and when you compare their roster against say like philadelphia who is of course a contender in the n._f._c. and they have been for a couple of years and they're a contender that has managed to overcome a quarterback back injury of course while paying their quarterback lots of money and then seattle who's a division rival who is in the mix again people think they're going to take a down year but they are consistently in that playoff hunt near the end of the year. How do you think the forty niners roster compares to say. The eagles are the seahawks yeah. That's a good question. I think it's it's fair to start talking about that now. Because you know we're in enter year three and it's it's now or never but it's pretty close than our never <hes> as far as comparing the rosters go. I think they're a couple of tears or so. Below the eagles because like you mentioned the eagles sustained a quarterback injury and they were able to you what the frigging super bowl who like who can say that they're able to do that but if you look at the eagles roster compared to the forty niners roster the difference would be eh bosa goes down what eric armstead or solving thomas whoever comes in whereas you know somebody from the eagles goes down they just have they have better depth all around and not just at one position. They have legit players. That would probably start on a lot of teams backing up so i think they're depth is is better than the forty niners. I do think that the forty nine hundred more comparable if not better than the hawks because i don't think i have a lot of depth and i just think that that they lost some players that will hurt them in actually think they're a little overrated but i would say that the forty niners roster is more more than competent. I would say that they're close to playoff-caliber. They just have to prove it. Comes down to the quarterback. Essentially what where do you stand on the forty niners roster yeah. I definitely don't think they're at the level of the philadelphia eagles yes. I think you're right top to bottom. The eagles still have a better and more proven roster. I think even on the defensive line you've got players like fletcher cox and you've got derek barnett and and brandon graham i mean those players will stack up comparably to all the players at the forty niners have but then you've got jernigan vinny curry even on ridgeway right and josh sweat. I know he's more of a workout wondering he hasn't kinda put it all together but he's still someone who can win off the edge speed so i think even their defensive line which which is the forty niners strength is comparable but they have. They have a better secondary all around easily. I mean i've always like anderson day and he may be a little over the hill but i think he's still a better player than than what you might see what the forty niners right now and so i think that's that's an interesting comp. I do think that they are a a comparable comparable if not better roster top to bottom than seattle seahawks but the seattle seahawks have russell wilson they have a quarterback and that's ultimately will puts them over the top so so you know i think biggest appointment for me it last thing on the roster is just demonstra morton team. I think that sucks. I think someone can take a street. Ah you know they're looking to bring them back at the at the middle of the year. I think that's another player you publish it a stash than i are to make red shirt and i think the mantra more is a better fit and can probably provide more quality snaps right off the bat than someone like davis street can but he's he's. He's not going to be a starter. He's probably going to be your ford at rusher. The teams ronald blair can do it and so a quality player. I think got cut or a player that could have provided some quality snaps for the team cut. Let's say it's third down and deferred gassed so he has to come out of the game. You have bosa buckner solomon thomas would you would you trust going against a let's say left tackle. Would you trust ronald blair or d'amato more to impact the play. Oh man that's a good question. Honestly at this point based on what i've seen so far and based on. I think you probably trust the monterey three more but i do think it's close between him and blair. I just don't think blair has shown as much refinement at the edge position as the mantra more even though i do think blair's and athletic <hes> in athletic individual and he's gifted i do think it's really really close and i do think that democracy more probably takes the edge. You look at what he's been able to do you in the preseason. He's been able to dunk people. He should've dunked on. He's got seventeen total pressures. He's got three sacks warrant like you know oh. I'm going to clean up and the quarterbacks. Nobody's gonna run an enemy type as acts. These are like actual. I'm pushing the left tackle off of me or i'm making an inside move in and making a sack so it just sucks. I think he's good enough to be on an n._f._l. Roster even if not the forty niners and and i do think that keeping three quarterbacks because you're hoping to flip warner four tight ends because levine toilolo is going to do something. I think more is probably gonna if you're all in on the on the front seven gonna be more impactful than living toilolo. I think this is a good example of teams struggling struggling to evaluate their own roster and i mean we're we're talking about the players that are in the forties on harassers so this this isn't an impact player by any means but what are the odds that team poached street who has never played a down in the n._f._l. He missed all year with an injury. What are the chances that he gets claimed off of the practice squad. Do you do you think needed. That was a high probability. I don't know i really don't know because i do think that street is someone who might be able to fit better on. Someone else's roster like he would fit better. I think he he literally is ten carrying like he would get a different scheme and i don't know that that's scheme is necessarily the one where you've got edgy players that you want screaming off the edge in the same mould as d ford and in the same old as as nick bosa so. I think that that i don't know that he would. I don't know that he fits the niners but that doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't claimed or picked about the practice squad to me. The the real rob here is the extra quarterback tight end because i don't think that that extra quarterback quarterback is going to do much of anything and i think your fourth tight end living toilolo he i mean he's a street free agent at this point so you're going to you're going to strengthen your the strength and that's up to do to kind of get over the roster hump and i don't know that that going with living toilolo is necessarily that he better be a special teams james demon he better make rahim moster blush with the way he covers kicks or whatever his contributions are because like you said nobody is missing leading toil on their roster so yeah interesting but there we are all right well. Let's get to the week one preview against the tampa bay buccaneers but before we do that. Let's take just a brief break to to hear from our sponsors. 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Let's talk about the matchup that matters and that's going to be punters because what is this but if not the punter revenge game bradley pinon versus mitch wish hausky. This is what we are here for. It's the better rivals bowl collar you onboard better rivals bull lovett yemen <hes> what you let's talk about this tampa bay game so let's start with the one and only jameis winston as a florida state thank fan. It pains me to watch him. Throw the ball knowing that it's probably going to end up on the other team. <hes> he just makes some very questionable decisions asians. Are you high on jaimes winston. Where you feel about 'em i hi. Do i have to be to like jameis winston. Those were those were interrelated questions because honestly james winston look he's. He's in a 'nigma wrapped in a turnover wrapped in a touchdown because he's going into his fifth year. He's earning twenty eight point nine million dollars. That's roughly a million dollars for every win. He's produced in his career. What we know about him is that he is prone to the boneheaded turnover but he's also gonna make some eye-popping throws and it's been that way pretty much since his rookie year when he was in dongguan players when he was in college at florida state quarterback stylists sticky certain things things are more stable year to year successor. Mclean pocket is pretty stable because that's what the quarterback can control their time. The throw is pretty sticky. That's that's our style right. Russell wilson's since always going to have a high time the throw and then the risk tolerance is pretty sticky a gunslinger someone tries to force it in there who tries to trust their arm is generally going to do that repeatedly early and someone's not gonna turn from mr conservative into mr gunslinger overnight and when you look at those three things this is where jameis winston ends up having some problems. He's not super successful from clean pocket. He does increase his time to throw he likes to hold onto the ball and he likes to take risks and when you put all of that together you end up with a pretty mediocre quarterback. That's exactly what he is. He just for whatever you just can't seem to get out of his own way. He wants to make the homerun play like you mentioned so much like he wants to make the big play once score touchdown every dropback and that's really really hurting him in. If if you want on a quarterback to start out the season if you are a young and inexperienced secondary or just forty nine and who are just made made some changes like this is a quarterback you wanna go up against the guy. That doesn't throw the ball away. I believe through the wall way. He dropped back four hundred and forty one times last year. He threw the ball away five times so that tells you just holding on. He's taken insights. He's he's putting the ball in harm's way so i mean the forty niners have they have. This is a guy that they have to take advantage of when you think of taking advantage of a player this is a game. I think where the niners can really or should really get a turnover from the secondary. Janus is known as we said for some eye-popping throws but he's also known for bone headed decisions and when you think think of his turnover worthy plays as defined by a pro football focus the outcome of those plays with shameless winston has a lot of is pretty interesting. When you get a turnover worthy throw or a turnover worthy play play those throws resulting in completion percentage of just two point two percent a passer rating of point five seven and last season just one lucky touchdown which means that i could throw the ball down at the dirt and get it better passer rating than just the point five seven that you get when quarterback makes it turnover worthy throw these turnover. The throws are intercepted at best sixty percent of the time the worst the great gets on the throw. The higher the interception rate it gets up to like somewhere near seventy or eighty percent <hes> a poorly graded throws and of those turnover worthy winston ranks thirty first in turnover worthy play last season. He does not take care of the football and if the forty niners are going to get an interception in the secondary. This is a great place to start. Was that your way of humble bragging that. You are a better quarterback jameis winston. Oh absolutely not is much better quarterback than i could ever be. He's just not a great n._f._l. Quarterback much like i. I am a much better quarterback than a peewee football player but that doesn't mean that one doesn't mean much of anything really because they're probably just as big as me so let's get to bruce arians because i think bruce arians is really the story. When it comes to jameis winston we have the story on james winston but if anyone is going gonna be credited with turning jameis winston around it is bruce arians and bruce arians of course brings with him that no no risk it no biscuit philosophy and that's something that could really test just the forty niners corners especially if they don't bring their a game because areas scheme is is pretty awesome yeah he he <hes> he loves to sleep down the feel like a fun offense to watch. It's not going to be the most efficient offense by any means but we get to third and one we to second in three to most coordinators that means they're going to dump it off or they're going to run the ball to bruce arians that means the same as it means on. I intend on third and seventeen. He's going to throw the ball down the bill four verticals. We're gonna see some post. We're going to see a whole kind of route combinations that are where you see most route concepts between ten twelve fifteen yards. He is fifteen up how do you how do you like aesthetically aesthetically. How do you like his offense. I think offense is really really. It's really good. It's really smart. He does some things with his route combinations that really put the safeties and second level defenders conflict whereas mike shanahan or call shanahan really going to attack those those linebackers a lot of the time especially with play action. I think areas really likes to attack those second level defenders. He's got a lot of posts and double moves in his arsenal and he's going to deploy them with mike evans and chris godwin who are a great wide receiver pair for the buccaneers and and one thing to watch on sunday when you're watching tampa bay play the forty niners is if you see those wide receivers lineup in a in a really short set condense split then you really start start needing to look for the h. Follow concept that. He likes to run where he did this with larry. If it's jalen arizona time a basically he's got a drag out that goes across the formation and then a little angle route or a delayed slant almost that comes in behind that route and normally i mean that's a concert cal shanahan runs right but what he does he places a deep post on the other side and if you're playing quarters are split safety look which the niners often check you in the preseason when they saw a bunch of wide receivers then it puts that safety in conflict and if he goes after the slant of the delayed slant which could be like someone like a mike evans then that post is going to be open over the top with chris collin or vice versa safety stays deep then all of a sudden. You've got an easier read for that underneath one on one match up with the <hes> the wide receiver so that's how you're gonna give jameis winston some defined looks. That's type gonna make him look better than he is and it is. I think brazilians that can do that. He is going to absolutely test the discipline of the players players right down the middle phil whether that's fred warner quantocks zander and jimmy ward and he's going to test that he's going to run somebody off. He's going to snake somebody and like you mentioned right behind him and you can't take the cheese. That's pretty much what defensive say you can't take. The teacher can't offer the first crosser and run out of arizona. I don't think you're going to get him because usually when somebody's leaving somebody's coming either right back to you or somebody's going to replace him so it'll be interesting to see if they are able to catch the forty niners off guard because they had a lot of mental mistakes last last year and it led to big play so we will see how much of an impact joe woods will make all right so mike evans chris godwin. They're pretty solid wide receiver pair. Who do you think it's the better of the matchup this weekend because they're going up against the kella witherspoon and richard sherman who again the corners are the suspect area of the forty niners defense and the secondary is as a whole and now they're getting a pretty solid tessier with tampa bay. What do you think is happening with those matchups as one of the biggest sherman fans in the world tampa bay has the advantage in this matchup and i think we're gonna find out pretty quick. Nick if witherspoon has any sort of boss goes. I think that's been sort of holding back just being able to find the ball. Make plays on the boy and james is gonna throw it up and good godwin is is going to make those contested plays and we all know that evans gonna make those contested place so if this wound is able to contest some of these throws they'll be fine but if he if he can't find the ball it's probably going to be a long afternoon for the forty niners defense yeah. I didn't really happen advantage here at the wide receiver position and this is i think where it really comes down to what the forty niners can do with their pass rush whether their gamble of investing all this in the past russia's really going to pay off and we'll talk a little bit more about that when we get to our key matchup to watch because because it will revolve around the trenches and the other thing when you're looking at the game is the forty niners offense taking advantage of suspect defense because the defense was not super great last year. They had one of the worst coverage grades in the n._f._l. Actually i think they finished third last <hes> where the forty niners finish last in the n._f._l. In terms of p._f. Coverage grade and now they've got a new defensive coordinator. They've got todd bowles. He's in town to reprises defensive success that he found in arizona with none other than bruce arians and and so he's going to bring a couple of schematic changes to the arizona cardinals and he's gonna bring in some players like d._n._v. cannon that he's been able to deploy positively before but i think all told despite the fact that that tampa bay has a couple of pieces. They don't have a super solid defense overall yeah and a great play caller he is. He's very very good at what he does but tampa bay just doesn't have very many good players on their defense and i feel like kyle shanahan and is going to put these guys in a press. I think they're going to be sort of like a dog chasing their tail trying to figure out what's going on how to stop them. If the forty niners do what i think they're going to do and i i believe they're gonna spread 'em out and kind of not so much dinka duck but just kind of level them out so we'll see probably short routes five yard route just like you said the following concept where there's something underneath and there's something over the top and they're going to put the linebackers in a bind and make play and i don't think that they'll be able to yeah when you look overall their defense. It's really the inside linebackers that are a little inexperienced devon white. He is fast as holy get out but he is a rookie and you you can maybe attack that rookie and make some false keys and make him take a couple of steps into the ball right over the top carl nassib as an outside linebacker. I'm probably more worried about his stock tips that i am necessarily about him as a player so i do think there's some opportunities there but i do think that it's the second area where you begin to see some of the vulnerabilities that you might want to attack and this is where i think it's gonna be interesting because the forty niners wide receivers were not super adept at getting off of press coverage last year and yet we know that that's what todd bowles likes to leverage his corners up in pressman and that's something the niners were not really great at beating last year and then it'll be an interesting test for a player like dante dante pettis to see whether he can beat that one on one press that he oftentimes couldn't beat last year because that was kind of the achilles heel the wide receiving corps last year and that that was the m._o. To beat them it was cool. Their players are just not better than our players so let's put the corners up on the line. Let's hit their wide receivers and let's see what happens and oftentimes it. It didn't end positively for the forty niners yeah that that must be a slap in the face when you see that as a player knowing that they're going to press you. They're probably not going to put any help over the top and you still won't be able to get open but tampa bay made a bunch of different <hes> they added some corners. They drafted jamal deen in the third round. They drafted shawne bunting in the second round so they have these long press corners a lot like witherspoon and they also have carlton davis who another long guy from auburn but <hes> yeah pets is gonna pedestal going to have have to perform like shan had knows he can. I'm another guy that's really high on pedestal. I'm not really buying all this. You know pushing him in taken his game to the next step but i think honestly the best matchup in this game will be deebo samuel i think he's going to i think this is going to be one of those things where slant just get the ball in his hands reverse slang curl but i also think double movie i think he's gonna hit on a double move much like he did in the preseason where <hes> the corners reserve super aggressive. They're they're like to jump outs usually long press corners onto most agile so when you get them on a double move you'll be able to make them a little susceptible so i'm looking ford to it. I think the forty niners have the advantage on this side of the ball so it's funny. It's funny enough that you mention depot on a slant because that's actually one of the new rules in the better rivals drinking game. We're going to send out here in a little bit actually sent out. I tweeted out just a teaser a little bit ago but <hes> yeah we've got a couple. We've got the ford the ford ford rule where if you jump off sides you drink. That's an odd number fifty five. I'm on brooks. Deebo catches a slant you drink. We've got a couple of others in there so i'll probably post that in the next couple of days but if you're looking to get drunk for both happy reasons and reasons. We're your podcast better arrivals. Maybe that's right. There's a beer can opening at the beginning of the show for a reason all right so let's get to a couple of key matchups to watch because at this point we've got some choices is right. We've got the return of alexander. The hot boys to we've got the punters man. You're here for the punter snaps. Let's do it bradley pinon over the preseason twenty three tenths for opinion six down inside the twenty average hang time four two four seconds which now z. seventeen attempts ten downed inside the twenty twenty four point three two average time. We also have a wish now sqi rule in the drinking game. That's been affectionately named the p._f. David drinking game role so pinon and wish hausky. I think that you know everything the the legend of which now skied continues to grow it's wrong to the fact that opinion so four point two is pretty good but four point three to you is obviously significantly better. <hes> it is any old tenth of a second better is is significant. It's ridiculous. It's so it's like a whole round in the draft larger literally. The fifth round rounded the fourth round pick in the fifth round. Excuse in the fourth that is literally the difference so yeah wish nasty and i know we we love the ponds here on on better rival. Oh so it's more like pignon when he's compared to mitch naski. I'm not sure that i understood that reference p. I n. y. A. w. n. o. man alan. I'm gonna give you a little golf cart for that. One that was good yeah the whole point of puns by the ways to make it just unbearable like the iro unbearably terrible. I'm right there with you. I'm right there with you. That's why i'm giving you the golf lap. It's good but the match to watch actually is the starting line. The starting guard from the old tampa bay buccaneers alex kappa. Uh if we're on the pun train mr alexashka he allowed three total pressures twenty-eight pass blocking snaps in the preseason and you think to yourself okay. That's just a preseason. It's not that big of a deal you know he is a highly relatively highly drafted individual who's been getting some pub recently but when you look at his limited snaps last korea seventy-five pass blocking snaps he'll ten pressures in seventy five pass blocking steps. That's not great. That's basically ten pressures in a little over a game name. That's absurd. If you think about player that converts a pressure to a sack like at the top end of that level around like thirty percent that's three sacks on alex kappa in one game alone which is about what he gave up in the game against cleveland when he played one half and he gave up two sacks and a bunch of pressures in that game so i think when when you look at someone like deforest buckner lined up against alex kappa. That's a match up that if you're niners fan his game is going. Well is one of the niner dominating yeah i would imagine that that deforest buckner is licking his chops when he's just watching i mean the entire defensive line when they're watching the <hes> the the browns go up against the tampa bay bucks. Just they've struggled and capela isn't the only person that struggled which is even better news for the forty niners. They have to two. They're both of their tackles are essentially blocking sleds at this point on donovan. Smith just can't seem to stay can't keep anybody from getting past him on demar dotson not much better so i can see why the forty niners would love to roll both out hopefully he's andre roberson but both and ford should would eat these guys for lots man it should be it should be a very a very fun day for the forty niners dealer training staff needs to roll a couple of clips of alex kappa and that offensive line is show them to bosa and i think his ankle a hill up just but all of that comes to what we think the game outcome is going to be because if you're watching this game and the niners were able to get a turnover because they're able to make jameis winston be more jameis winston like if that defense ends for tampa bay shows. It's an experience shows. It's youth and the transition is a little bit rough and the forty niners pass rush can get to james woods enforcement decisions. I think it ends up in a positive outcome for the forty niners so all that being said. Do you think that is likely to be the case or do you think that the niners are still not some rust off and automatically the the game is tighter and the tampa bay buccaneers. Were able to pull this out. That's yeah that's a good question. There's going to be a lot of moving parts in this game. You know we have jimmy garoppolo apple playing. I live football for four quarters for the first time in pretty much a year. <hes> we have new head coach on the other side with trying to figure out what do you on offense with james wisdom. If is he able to run his stuff with james winston. I do think there will be a lot of points just because both defenses. Are i mean at at this point. The forty niners are not prove we we can say that they're going to be good on paper but we need to see what they look like. We need to see if the secondary is able to make plays so i think tampa bay is going to be able to score four. I think the forty niners to be able to score even more because i don't see tampa bay being able to stop them that that's secondary is actually worse i in my opinion than the forty niners and that is saying something. I think you would agree with that. <hes> i have twenty seven twenty four nine dollars and that's scores not not too far off the the vegas line has them as a pick. Em at this point. The line started in may i think with the niners is two and a half point dogs and now it's basically an even game so line shifted a bit and i think the overrun the games fifty so i think that's a pretty a pretty accurate prediction. If you're a betting man and i think that you are i am. I'm going to have a betting column every friday. Let's just put it like that. Yeah it'll be. It'll be good. I think that that i can't disagree with the outcome. Come i do think the niners end up winning this game. I do think it's probably closer than a lot of people will think and i don't. I don't disagree with at twenty seven twenty four score. I think that's a really good spot to put him i do i think that even at the flipside happens even the niners lose this game and they end up going into cincinnati owen one. I don't think that it's necessarily the end of the world when everyone's bruins looking at a beatable tampa bay game and they're like oh what the hell i think that that matt barros had a really good story about the two thousand eleven nine or team that he covered and he said it was the best liner team that he's covered as a beat reporter for the niners and they started similarly kinda slow out of the gate but eventually they picked up a couple of really key wins rattled off seven in a row and eventually of course made it to the n._f._c. championship game so i think that that the schedule early on for the niners has a couple of interesting games in the niners are going to be knocking some rust off and i do you think they will end up with probably what looks like a better team later on in the year yeah and that's a really good point just to talk about losing the first game if if the forty niners are not able to beat the box. It's not the end of the world like they're still figuring things out. It'll probably take a month like up until the bye week just to figure out what exactly they they they can do. They're going to be figuring out a role for deebo samuel. They're going to figure out what the other receivers can do whether it's <hes> get do they need to get the ball more to tevin coleman. Do they need to get the ball mortimer brita who can block and then on defense you. Have you know all this new delight or you know. Where do i play salman thomas and eric armstead. How many snaps can i leave boatswain default out house. My secondary performing is should witherspoon. Play should play. Where do i put jimmy war. There's just so many moving parts for this team that it's naive to think that everything will be solved during the first game so yeah. It'll be a long season but i think it's more about how they perform in november in december as opposed to september. Why does it for this edition of the better rivals podcasts. I it football's back my friend. It's it's going to be a fun filled weekend. You've got games thursday. I will be at texas l. As you on saturday and then the games finally here on sunday man it is it's good to write about something meaningful now now we don't have to. We don't have to fake analysis. You don't have to know pretend anything we get to talk about actual football so with that go forty niners and with go go g. e. a. u. x. l._s._u. Baby no. I'm not gonna let you get away with that. One definitely not going to happen. There's no there's actually a shirt i contemplated getting. There's something about the co-op here and it says go home kitty and it's a u. x. y. Oh man it's it's gonna be. It's gonna be fire. Emoji <music> as the kids say they'll say that right yeah oh yeah for sure right up there with like lit and on fleet right so thanks again again producing and everyone you can always follow me on twitter at better rivals kyle. Where can they follow you. Your ball me k._p. Underscores show and i promised i am nowhere near as hip as the kids trust me me either <hes> thanks again for tuning in and it has always go niners.

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Episode 527: Matalo! (1970)

The Projection Booth Podcast

1:16:07 hr | 2 months ago

Episode 527: Matalo! (1970)

"Airwave media podcast show people say could to see this movie when they go to a theater they want. Cold sodas popcorn in no masters in the protection booth. Everyone pretend podcasting is boring. welcome to the projection booth. I'm your host. Mike white chimney once again is mr colin gallagher. Thank you for having me back. Also back in the booth is mr chris tissue. I promise while. I look like klaus kinski. I am not in fact klaus kinski. We are kicking off spaghetti western month with perhaps not one of the best known spaghetti westerns of all time but a personal favourite motto also known as kill him. It's a little tough to some this one up. There's a group of outlaws ghost town. Maybe this real ghost and eventually lucas shows up wearing pace coat and wielding one of the strangest weapons. I've seen spaghetti western protagonists wheeled. We will be talking about all that as we go along so. Piet don't want anything ruined. Please turn off the podcast and come back after. You've seen the film so colin was this the first time. Watch for you know. I had seen it a few times before. I think the i was at spectacle here in brooklyn in twenty fourteen. They did a series of italian films. And the next might have been when you showed at mike on one of year projection booths watch parties and chris. How about yourself. This is the first time. I saw you know. Mike when i come on the projection booth a lot of the time. It's me stepping outside of my comfort zone. This is not not outside of my comfort zone that much. This is you know it's a spaghetti western which i have seen spaghetti westerns before. Just not this particular one so this was a i for me. The thing that's strange about this movie is it. It has this weird pacing issue where like the first half of the movie and the second half of the movie are almost different movies in a way like maybe the first third of the movie and then the two-thirds is like kind of like the other characters that just show up. It has that weird structure to it that the first time i watched it i was like waiting. Okay so now. We're with the different characters fine but i watched it three times now. It went from okay to it's okay. It's it's pretty good. It's pretty good. I mean look the thing with the boomerang is ingenious. Who's going to argue that not me. It's funny that's your first impression. Chris because i i sort of had the opposite the first time i saw it. I absolutely fell in love with this. And i adore american westerns in preps be for some reason. I was actually really slow to like a lot of the euro westerns outside of no obvious classics like the sergio leone films. But the first time i saw this when it's spectacle it was just so startling different than anything i had seen before in extreme minutes style that i i just felt immediately in love with it and i think what i really responded to was. It's very much a primal film. The western reduced to the barest knows abstract elements to need a lot of ways. It seems very like semiotics the way that it has all these signs and signifier 's but nothing's really explained in. We're just supposed to infer meaning from all of these signs throughout the movie. Knowing where i can think of is uncompromising it reminds me a lot of another western that is as uncompromising in its vision of what he the director believes the west to be which is l. Togo this movie has a dna connection to that film and this may be jumping the gun ten twenty minutes from now but that i mean i see what you're saying one hundred percent agree with you. It has that feel to it that like just go with it. It's you're just here just eight. You're along for this ride. Whatever this ride may be an. It's going to be whatever. The director wants to present to you. And it also has dna to another movie and again this might be jumping the gun but it's based on a previous spaghetti western kill the wickets. It's from sixty seven. It's the original. Italian is called deehan pasta. Il sabato translate as god doesn't pay on saturday. It was directed by tanya boat who was credited as amerigo antonio in written by nino rowley. Who was credited as mike ashley. It's essentially the same outline like begins with a concludes with the same. Sorta shootout hits the same beats but it really lacks that eccentric style as well as the boomerangs. That's a terrific movie. It's really fun but the style just takes this in a whole other direction. It's wildly different. That way swiss direct by his attic cavity and you hook me up with quite a few of his films and this was the only one i had seen for a long time and seeing the other films i can see. He definitely has things that he'd likes to do in this movie. Really has those in spades the whole idea of the quick. Cutting the closeups the weird angles. He goes for. It's very very psychedelic. The way that the images are presented to us even when you've got a character like looking through a multifaceted glass ornamented looks like and then us seeing through that. I mean it's very much like. Let's try to be as trippy as we possibly can be the other two elements i kept thinking about. In relation. to his other movies are voyeurism and torture. He loves to have characters looking at each other in a hyena in the safe. There's always a television monitors. Spying on people and in multiple movies specially established last orgy. It's lots of torture gestapo's last orgies pretty much nothing but torture for ninety minutes. Essentially that movie. If you don't wanna watch. I understand why someone wouldn't. It is the first half is sallow in the second. Half is the night quarter but nowhere near as well done as those movies But maybe it's the subject matter is very easy to turn one stomach as it probably was intended to. I was expecting you to say it's just a dash of the producers there at the end. It's a rousing musical end for springtime to hitler at the end. Well it's funny. You mentioned that because especially on rewatch is of monticello. I noticed more of a sense of humor that i did not. I did not see in his other movies. I don't know mike if you thought the other movies had humor to them. I was laughing at high in quite a few times. I really enjoyed that movie. I thought that was fantastic. Especially the the low angles. When the one character is playing the piano and that kind of discordant way and just I really liked that. And i mean we should talk about the music and this too is just is some of the best funds rock psychedelia type of stuff. I mean this score is fantastic. I'm going to be a finding a copy of the soundtrack one way or another as soon as we finish this podcast. Luckily it's out there. You can get the cd of this. It is not impossible to find which is a great way to get introduced to this film because that music is so good. Not only is it. Is it good. It is essentially what i think of. When i think of early seventies psychedelia rock it is like stereotypically psychedelia rock which which worked so well in this film which makes me wonder how well psychedelia rock would have worked in westerns. All the time you get those great guitars and things like once upon a time in the west but in here is just like a different brand of music and some of the sounds. That they use this to i mean especially. There's a swing that plays a major part in this in the screeching from that swing will just put your nerves right on edge. Are you familiar with the composer. Mario meal artie. I didn't know his other work. And especially on repeat viewings. This seems a little different than like the more konate. You know vein of soundtracks. They were really popular at the time. I i kept thinking of penderecki. Tanaka send people that used a lot. More like a tonal chords that used a lot of noise to be like abrasive. And then someone like torie. Talking meets the japanese composer who used a lot of indian sounds in percussion to give it a really like the articles. Not the right word but this I don't really like ghosts lee. You know ambient affect. I thought it was really effective for this movie. Yeah we'd like to see more movies with him. Doing the soundtrack of i wanna see. Shoot the living in. Pray for the dead. And i'm not sure what this one translate says. But elvin tony de morte so it sounds like the seller of death and those are good title. I know for sure klaus kinski is one of them. Okay which is why. I want to watch it. 'cause i was again i mentioned it. The first thing i said on this show. it looks like klaus. Kinski on the poster for montebello. If you look at it too fast. It really does that. Poster is kind of deceiving too because it is caratto pani. Who plays the bert character. Who's basically are. I don't want to say protagonists. But he's the star of the show in the first half of the film but yet it says lucas style right next to him. So i always thought that that was luke style and i was like no no no lucas. L. is our protagonist in the second half of the film very much. You know you're talking about alto. And i always think of that as having very distinct acts especially when the second half of the film starts alto bows there with the shaved head and everything. This film is very much the same in that. We have corrado pani in the first half lucas style in the second half and then eventually their paths cross. but it's kind of a surprise. Sakata pontius is still there. Because he essentially dies one part and then kind of comes back as a ghost. But not really ghosts. He's just hiding out. So it's it's. It's interesting that we have to put them in. Coots ghosts in this film because when they first get to this ghost town there's the old woman constance benson who is going around with a rifle and you never see her face until eventually they reveal who she is and then she's almost replaced by earth who is also going around with a rifle and you don't see his face. It feels like this film is very haunted. Feels like a horror western. That's a really good way to describe it especially the style the way they play with missing characters and shadows in so many times. The camera seems to take this sort of spectral perspective with either the way it moves sort of the way it cuts. It's like it's like a point of view of somebody but you don't see who they're looking at when you get the shot cuts of the is with that little electronic kind of noise that goes on so much of it like there's a part. I think it's when. Bert is on that swing. I was talking about. And you just keep getting these flashes of is near. Like what the hell's going on and you're gonna get that through a few more times in the film even when it's not him and i guess it was. Maybe mrs benson looking. But you're talking about voyeurism. That's right there as well having the shots. These is you get that even the opening scene of the movie. I think the very first shots are these extremes zooms of the town so there's no establishing shot you see all these out of focus characters right in the foreground in you look a little bit in the background. It's almost as if you're like spying on this town in. That sort of the first clue that somebody is spying in watching. What's going on but you don't know that for like a little bit into the scene until all hell breaks loose. Were being dropped into the middle of the story is well because i love how you described it. That extreme zoom and you can see in the background. A casket being loaded onto a wagon. You see a woman who stressed all in black then you start to get more of her and it's like okay. What's going on with this woman. It's like there's this whole thing that's going on like we have this back story that we're really never going to get. And then we see you know. Burt being led out to the gallows. And i love him and his interaction with the priest and the priestess reading you know last rites on its own latin. I'm just like with a fucker. The subtitles for it's a kunda multitude in missouri. Tianhe two daily believes may. I've been equator topic. Khartoum long creteil him. Hey go canoe. Katamon ma'am i found an italian print of the film and it exactly the same other than obviously the opening credits which the opening credits are strange. Because these are not over images these are white over black just text which is kind of strange and i'm thinking like oh did they just tack this on. You know in the video. And then i found this italian print and same font. I think it was like red on black rather than white on black seem order but it was all an italian and then when it opens up on that image of the sun there's a title current that comes out and it says in english their only two good men one is dead the other is yet to be born and then the movie starts properly. And then that's the exact same film if anybody from hino or ero indicators listening on a blu ray of this would be very nice. That'd be really good. How many times have we said that this year quit a few. I want to know. Because i've said that on my own podcast with cullen on it so and i think we've said it before at least once this year mike. You're finding a lot of good stuff this year mike. I think this film has a lot of crossover appeal. There are people out here who deserved to see this movie because a lot of people would be into this kind of movie. I agree with you. Chris eye syndrome. Ever you guys bringing that up a few times on the what was the theme of the month but it was basically like colin picks right at the no our films. Yes thank you. And i remember a couple of those who were just like man. This was beat to shit. It'd be so nice to see a restored version of this. Yeah it was the kill off the kill off. Yeah that looked like it was filmed with a lens. Covered in mud was very. I mean you know it's like this right. It's like wherever they're getting it from is not the best quality that they can get. You should have seen the very first time. I watched this movie because it was a fan at at that somebody did or like a fan restoration so it was the english track but then it was partially one cut of it and personally another cut of it and whoever did it like cut it all together put the english over it and so every once in a while the english should start to slip so they would be not necessarily in line and then every once in a while there would be parts that there wasn't english four and they would just start speaking italian and it's like okay. What the hell's going on here so this version. That is now on dvd. From i think wild east looks really good compared to what i saw originally but yeah i agree. It could look a whole lot better. I was looking around on youtube for steph about the film the films on youtube in its entirety but a lot of the music is cut out large swats of music or cut out. I've seen this other movies when someone uploads movie. If this music is tag is copyrighted. One of the options is to just have the copyrighted portions dropout. Yeah so. That's what i think's happening the one on youtube which is funny because when i was watching it was like while it's still a movie but all of a sudden when they're riding their horses on the high it's just literally silent completely silent and again if you've seen this movie you'll know in the first third half of this movie we wanna look at it. There's not a lot of dialogue. I mean there's not a lot of dialogue in this movie otherwise so in the beginning twenty thirty minutes of this movie. It's like ten full minutes of silence. The other thing i noticed too is said. They're being very careful to not show people talking like a notice a lot of times that characters will speak when their offscreen or when their mouths are obscured. It reminded me a lot of like the old cartoon. Danger mouse where it was like. Oh it's too expensive for us to animate lip flap so we'll just have danger mouse. Look down when he's speaking so you don't see his mouth move with this. I'm not sure if it was just like. We don't have time to really sink the dialogue or whatever. But i just noticed. There were so many times where the person speaking is not the one that we're looking at. I reckon you're probably right. Might that it's it. Cost saving measure that. It's a lot easier to edit when you don't have to do the voice overs when you don't have to think about sinking the lips because italian movies do all of the audio in post production anyway and this was this would have been dubbed both into italian and english and i think the scott released as well as france germany. I've seen posters for it in those countries as well so i don't know how well this did box office wise but at least it was out there for the audience to see because this was kind of far as my reckoning goes this is quite a few years after the spaghetti western boom started but i think we still had a few more years to go before was going to wrap up. We haven't even really talked about the opening scene. It reminded me a little bit of The the bad and the ugly this whole idea of the guy who's about to be hanged and that one you know it's all i can. Then he's got bright eyes or whatever hanging out watching over him there's or or an angel watching over him as well because the van cleef is looking out and checking out the scene as well but with this band of outlaws that come in and rescue him and he manages to ride out with them and they're like okay. Well thanks for the money for saving you. We're gonna take off now. And then he massacres the entire band all by himself which is just amazing and the thing that i loved the most other than the crazy voice over the comes in. I think only one time in this movie will we get birds. Pov right he's got a thing. And i noticed the so much last night. He's kind of like jewish ito and brandon to kill. He loves the smell of gunpowder and every time he shoots his gun. He'll sniff that gun and it just takes a big within. There's dislike a couple like little occasions where he'll just run the gun passes knows and it's like wow. This guy really likes that odor. It's a nice little like perverse touch an unusual perverse touch. Howdy folks. i'm bert. Because that opening seeing you know after they rescue him from you know being lynched. They kill everybody in the town. The widow who obviously had some sort of love affair bird kills ourselves in the only person left standing in town is the pres. Twos dislike giving everyone their last rites all the corpses lying around. Then make as you pointed out. He turns on all the people who just you know. Rescued him kills them all and steals the money and then he comes on doing this like really jokey comical self addressed to the audience. You know giving his father's advice. Money's like ripe fruit on a tree. All you have to do is reach out and grab it before someone else does. It's like some like leave it to beaver trappers something in this as you put it like. This never happens again. No we start with the voice over with this guy. We never get back to. It's like okay in those moments that to me. This movie sort of becomes like weirdly like theoretical. It's just like he's sort of taken. This elements from like tv westerns or something. Well this is. What some westerns tab zo. We're gonna have this parts in you get these characters that don't really fit so he eventually heads north to colorado and that's where the soundtrack kicks again and there's like a goblin edge to it when it comes up so this is like the first hint of like this is not going to be your typical western. He heads north any meets up with his two boys. Phil and ted and phil looks like a pretty typical western heavy. But then ted in this lambskin vest studies wearing and he's got like stuff like beads and stuff hanging around his neck and got this receding hairline with two long hair trying to cover it up and stuff but he looks like he's a hippie. It looks like there's a hippie that escaped and made it into this movie. That jacket is just so shaggy and ragged. Looks like it's was cut off a land like it's still partly alive does not look like it's actually will made. I like how they make fun of them to like when bert shoots a rabbit and they're like oh you should make a hat out of that and then we get our fourth person that shows up. Which is mary the gorgeous woman. Claudia gravy. i'm surprised that that's a real name. And i have a feeling it's not like ravi. Gustav sheep is playing the long con of. She's kinda dayton phil. But she's teasing ted but then at the end you find that she's really births girl and it's just going one to the other to the other and just playing everybody off of each other which i really appreciate. It reminds me of one of the two. Clint eastwood once. He starts paying the families against each other by working for both of them. There is always going to be one person out for ostensibly themselves. Mary's costume kept reminding me of like raquel. Welsh in you know like you don't like handy calder. Or like hundred rifle shedded sorta vibe and like even her hair john lane don't have anything on her fringe game. Hello wow what. Whatever corrado ponte's poncho poncho has a life of its own or his. I guess as sir rob a or his throw that he keeps over himself that he in one scene essentially does a back. And there's like hiding underneath it. It's very i mean. That's the scene from the poster where he looks like klaus kinski in that super tight green shirt that he's wearing again it just doesn't feel like era appropriate but i love it. I love it because it's not era appropriate. Speaking of era appropriate the fact that the character played by luca. Stelle of ray. His weapon of choice is boomerang. I love that. There's ray and then the other girl and i'm trying to think of. She even gets a name but they just like happened to be out in the desert. It's not like they ever have a purpose. Like she was riding someplace with her husband. And i guess the husband died. Her horse fell the wagon wheel. Came off so the first time we see her. She's shooting her horace so she's just kind of wandering in the desert and meets up with ray who is very much wandering in the desert. They ask him what he's doing and he doesn't really have a good answer. It sounds like he was just mosey in along. Kind of thing yeah. Her name is brigitte. The scene were always people are introduced is really interesting. Structurally in chris. I think this is the moment when it shifts from movie one two movie too because mary has engineered this holdup up of the wagon. And she's really the instigator of the shootout because they're gonna be robbing the goals and Ted and phil get the gold in. This is also where. Burt gets shot and mary seemingly leaves him for dead. Meanwhile on another part of the desert nearby lou just sort of collapses in his horse finds him in. Bridget comes along. And we now have all these new characters. And it's just like wait. These characters are meeting their. They have their own stories. Are movie has sort of lake stumbled into their movie. That was going on at the same time. It's like two different movies. This is a third movie and now math happens and the rest of the movie is sort of sorting out. How these different storylines interact. Because we get bridget in ray meeting each other and then we don't see them again for a little while and then it goes back to our like our first movie and we get this whole thing like now. Mary's try to get with ted and fills being suspicious about the gold. And all this kind of stuff and it's like okay. We'll we're these other characters and who is this that keeps looking at them with this rifle and it seems like there's somebody out to get them. Okay what what what is happening here. Please tell me what's going on. But i love when accused me in suspense like this. Because it's just super spooky this mysterious person with the rifle. I'm just like this. That is that burt back from the dead. What's going on here. That mean harp played with that rifle barrel that diabetic harp that i did not realize anymore than i think. The three of us realized it was diabetic. The first time we watched it. I was just assuming it was just just background noise. And then there's the rifle. Playing the harp was it. The rifle i thought was the curtain but then they were gone by the time they got there and then it was the curtain play Okay it's that it's that whole fake out the trying to have it both ways but there are so many like spooky touches like that. I mean earlier. I think it's been bird dating. He keeps hearing sounds and the cameras cutting and then okay. It's the rabbit or like oh there's the they're the swing moving so there are all these hence that maybe there is a ghost. I'd be inclined to think there is one and every once in a while that rifle just kind of sneak into through a window from outside and just be sitting there sticking out and it's like okay. You're going to do anything or what's going on here. It's really off putting. I love win. It's at night when the character we come to learn Is the old lady. We just see her shadow. Sort of like entering the saloon. Everyone sleeping and it's it's like something like at a knows farrah or something where it's just it's like there's no body it's only the shadow yet. And this woman gertrude benson. We didn't say but the town that they end up going to you know they all meet up the the four criminals they all meet up in this town and the ghost town. There's absolutely nobody there. But then we find that gertrude was there and she's the only resident and she's like the town matriarch because i noticed a sign that said benson before we even see the. The hotel sign this unwelcome to whatever benson town or whatever it is. There's a gravestone. Isn't there yeah. Benson this benson that but benson benson. So when she shows up gertrude benson she has this whole thing of like. I want to get the town going again. And really when she finds out about the goal dishes like okay great. I can restart the talent. I'm just like this is really weird motivation for you. But i can see where she's the voice of capitalism like. Give me the gold. I wanna start my town going. And i want to be the person in charge of everything in the way she even speaks of. It is almost a little spooky because she says the quotas. My life ended here years ago. And it's like well. Do you need like figuratively. Your life ended when you know like people left the town. People died because your family you settle his money or do you mean like literally you died in your ghost just hasn't left in the golan the Like tarpaulin for clothes and just start being a huge nuisance to her. Tie her up. So we've got her kind of stashed out the way. And that's when gertrude and ratio up and you know we talked about the boomerangs but raise paisley coat l. My god. I love his coat so much and it can't talk about not feeling appropriate to the era because it feels like i would see him dropping. Lsd into his drink before he visits the gogo club or something. It just seems very nineteen seventy to me. They may have spiked the water in the town with lsd. That would explain a lot of things the trough maybe just pours off of births body since he's taking a bath in the town. Water supply if the trump had lsd and if that would explain a lot of the animals weird behavior in the weird close ups of like the horses is that horses legit though yellow the way that it protects its owner. I mean because once lucas style shows up in the movie proper it is time to beat the shit out of him. We're going to beat him up here in the bar. We're gonna take him outside you know. He's just super desperate for water. We're going to tie him up and just keep them away from this water. He's gonna crawl over when a kick him away from it. We're going to whip him with a chain has just constant poor lucas. Stella's just being brutalized through almost as entire role. This kind of our guys. He's a sick guy you're sick. Oh man you're sick. You're sick category. He loves his torture. He does very effectively also one can say he films a boomerang very effectively as well. Yes the rotating camera thing. Oh boy jesus. That's a bit much. I mean. I appreciate it for what it is as ensure both of y'all do but man hopefully you don't get motion sickness. Well there even parts where it's not the boomerang. Where he's doing is wild. Almost three sixty degrees with the camera like shooting up into the sky. Like wow what is happening here. This is amazing. I forget to mention when. Ted is beating up ray with the chain that we get a lot of backwards shots like backwards and slow motion so it's just adds to the trippiness of it where he's whipping this guy but it's all backwards like whoa. This is terrific. I mean i like the camera work. Yeah i mean you know my about the boomerang aside and joking about it because it is it is so cool but at the same time if you're ju- if you genuinely have an issue with fast camera movements do not watch this end of the film because it will make it will make your head spin but i like that. That's the reason for having the boomerang ends up paying off in a cinematic way. Which i always find to be very cool when a film is able to use something in a way that not only makes sense to the fail. Maybe in boomerang. I didn't make sense in that. It's like a kind of an eclectic interesting weapon but also because kind of brings in this camera movement trick towards the end if feels like it pays off and that's something that actually works better in this than in the the. Kill the wicked because the the character originally still has the pacifist where he grew up. The son of a preacher doesn't believe in violence but new original. He has a gun. He's shooting people but in this one the fact that he uses the boomerang and you know he does kill people with the boomerang. It's at least a little kinder but more interesting. It's like okay. You're you're you're you're hurting people a little bit at a time and you just hit them a lot of love the soul. I'm a son of a preacher man. I learned different ways than everybody else. He's like yeah that pacifists but but they're going to have to pay after what they did to me after what they did to miss benson after what they did to this woman. They're going to have to pay for what they did. Okay time to kick some ass especially once he gets that water he's like a reborn it's almost like he is. He is made new again. And then gets the put on the pace jacket again and go out and give ted. What for what these boomerangs and has so good in before we get to the climactic scene. There's another new character. Is introduced mr baxter. I believe it's phil who goes to talk to mr baxter. And he says. Mr baxter you hired me to find that gold mr baxter's like well now. Everyone thinks mexicans did it. So you're gonna have to deliver it to me in my spread in mexico and there seems to be a little disagreement about how they're going to get the money to and yet like where did this come from whereas this mr baxter character from. It's so surprising that they were hired to get that gold. It just seems like that was their thing as we're going to rob the stagecoach but then that we find out that they're just guns for hire. It's kind of like when we found out that those men that saved burt at the beginning were all for higher as well. And i think that's kind of a you know just letting us know that the same thing that happened to all of those bandidos is going to happen to fill and ted and bert and mary after they give mr baxter as gold. I don't think anyone involved really ever intended to give mr baxter. The goals and i don't think they intended to split it amongst themselves either. No there's no honor among thieves fill almost immediately takes the gold and hides it someplace. So we've got again the looking we've got married looking out of the window and then telling ted about it later on so she gets to pit ted against phil and then we find out towards the end the film that surprise. Burt was not dead at all that he's just been kind of laying low and letting them kind of hash it out and he's his plan. I think was to swoop in and get the gold. Maybe get the girl and then off. They go to wherever they want to go to. I absolutely loved the editing of this for one. When mrs benson comes out with the rifle i kept thinking of lillian. Gish in the unforgiven. And maybe that's just because older lady with a rifle but i don't know she seemed to be having a shot but again to that sort of leeann a good bend the ugly cut between everybody's closeups of their eyes. Everybody's ready and then he keeps going back to close ups of the donkey's is 'cause the donkey is just in the middle of the road with the gold. Strap to its back. And it's just like oh shit everybody's got a gun except for this donkey. The donkey looks a little confused. But also like. I wanna get the hell out of here. It's like those people that took the gif of eli wall can leave in cleveland clinic swimming and then added like the cross. Eyed cat had to enter the mike you it goes on goes on further even that i mean that is the that is the tip of that iceberg. And you'll send me this gifts. I think they'd start bringing in like characters from other movies. I look i mean the mexican stand-off for the standoff or however you want to phrase it in these films it's not a requirement right but if you're gonna do it do it in a way that's interesting i mean make it your own. Make it your own and doesn't enough to kind of let it stand. Stand out from the pack. But the standoff scene i mean every western teams to have a standoff especially these spaghetti western so it's nice to see kind of are doing something really unique. This seem to really sell aware and almost moment of like parody or satire. The donkey gets away with the gold. I think you're right. Raise not about the gold. Mrs benson is completely about it. I mean everybody is about it. Other than ray and raise just like. Yeah whatever someone. The donkey runs away. She's like okay. Bridget doesn't want the gold she just kind of wants to survive. She wanted no part of any of this. I feel very bad for her because she's brought into the situation. It's just like hey listen. I just lost my husband and i just had to shoot my horse you know. She's like the innocent bystander. In all of this and raise pretty much innocent as well but then they start beating them up and he's just like. Hey listen i think your business. I got a with these boomerangs over at the sky and couple other people as well just to take care of them during the starts which again has more of the crazy cutting in the camerawork. Birt's in the middle of it trying to get to the donkey and that is some slapstick to me. It's i really like those elements of humor. Because they're denise unexpected because it kind of alternates between. We're gonna be really serious and hard boiled now. You really sadistic now. We're gonna be really mysterious like or now we're going to be really goofy visible gertrude. Kinda given a little speech there about how she wants. The goal to rebuild the town. And he's doing this great thing where he's like zooming a little bit and then stops then zooms a little bit more stops than zooms a little bit more. It's like wow really makes the scene so much more intense than if he had just given it to her and let it be a close up of her and then it's not even ray far as i remember that kills bert. I think at this It's it's up shooting them in the back. Yeah shoots him in the back like the coward. She wants to down a dog in the street. She's not letting anything someone in the back though. I'm not saying that i would do that. But i'm saying that's what she she wants to gold. She doesn't want anything else. It's a pretty nihilistic movie. it's very nihilistic. We started with this city being a ghost town and really the first city that we are in our first town ended up being almost a ghost town. Because everybody's dead other than that preacher and now here we are in this town and we even do like a check in with the camera going from body to body to body just to show like everybody's dead again other than ray in bridget and they get to not necessarily right off into the sunset they just kind of like. Okay see ya. They go their own way. Everybody was killed in this movie for money and nobody gets the money and the only people that survive never really wanted to be a part of this. And that's pretty antithetical to the way a lot of westerns end whether it's with revenge whether it's with justice whether it's with new completing a goal or an there's always some sort of sense of something it's like none of this really means anything. Nobody really got anywhere. Nobody knows where they're going. The only people left her lost and the money is on a donkey at the end. Mr baxter doesn't have a skull that's the definition of nihilism. Is that the reason that they're all here. And they're all dead ends of not mattering at all anyways and the dunk is probably pissed because the gold probably ways allot dogs. Just get this fucking money off my back. Let me into that. Lsd trough again. What are the things. I love your old talknet. The camera sort of the looking over the dead bodies and then it rises up to welcome to benson city hotel sign and then the camera. Just sorta start shaking left and right and to me. That was really really kind of a stirring almost like disturbing moment. And i kept thinking. That is the camera taking a god-like perspective because it's almost like someone like shaking their head like Not happening today. Look what we got here in. That goes to black and get music for a couple of minutes. If memory serves no end credits is just the music playing over it so again. Kind of emphasizing. How important the the score is to this. And it's not even. I did notice that it's not necessarily music by Meg liatti it is special. Electric music affects the heck of a credit. It sure is and i did check. That's in both versions. The english and the italian but in italian itself much nicer. I would love to know about the background of this movie. And that's something. I could not find online. There's not a heck of a lot about who does director is what his background is because clearly. He's got a style. Clearly he wants to do some pretty radical things with the camera and chris as you said like you. Use the word cinematic. And it's like this is a very cinematic movie that really pulls all the tools of filmmaking from editing camera movement costume music sound effects i mean. It's a little bizarre the choices. But he's using the mike. Nothing is wasted in. Its effect the way that i would describe implementation of the boomerang in this film is it's very thematic in its nature. You have a boomerang in this film. You don't have to film it that way but of course you're gonna film it that way. Why wouldn't you. It makes the most sense. Is it the most logical way of filming nine times out of ten. No but in this scenario it makes perfect sense the actually showed the boomerang flying at one point and actually sing like a legit person through it like it goes and then it starts to come back like boomerangs are supposed to do but then of course when he's actually attacking tied with it. Then you get the now. We're going to pan over here. This kind of wild pan and we're going to hear the sound of the boomerang and then it'll be somebody just basically throwing it at ted and him overreacting but it's great that works but it was very nice that they actually showed the boomerang. Flying at one point was at all just trickery as far as like oh just use the sound effect and do swish pan. They don't exactly always stick to the circular three sixty camera which is nice because again. It's as good as it is is a little much used sparingly as they would say as a prop when he goes in collects those after he's thrown them a bunch. Those things are pretty hefty. Yeah they got some nixes a cool visual right. I mean you got this guy walking over to the dead body grabbing the boomerang like yeah. that's cool. That's just a cool visual. I don't know if we talked much about it but the ghost town itself is incredible. Set all the windows busted weird when a when they go into the you know the bedrooms there's like the cabinet with no doors of basic looks like a coffin at standing up so much dust everywhere this this is. It's a real lived in town. There's one part. Where i think is ray is going through like an attic or a room or something. There's all these cobwebs everywhere. It's like it's again that horror movie kind of thing breaking through the wall of cobwebs. It's a spectacular visual movie. As we said. I would love to see this on blu ray i would love to see a thirty five printed. It's to your point. The visuals opened the way. The film opens the non-credited version. Not the credits were slapped. On and post hyper post version. That opening with that son is just it's spectacular canterbury. He made as far as i know directed nine films over a period of nineteen years. So it's like okay. That's quite a while between some of his projects because when he started he was going like sixty four sixty five sixty eight sixty nine. Seventy seventy four. Seventy six seventy seven eighty three. So it's like. There was a little bit of a gap before that last one. But he's got at least one other western. That i know of portland delauro tucson mora so but i would love to see that. That's only value available in either a german dubbed version or an italian dubbed versions. I would love to see that with subtitles. I'm db they say the translation to die for a dollar in tucson. I couldn't track down a copy. I would love to see it as last movie is strange killing of the flesh. It seems that you know he did. These two western's pretty early on and then he wound up doing more like almost softcore sort of like arthouse erotic like exploitation movies. Did you know like. I am annual the new princess. Very strange movie and then killing the fleshes. It's almost like it takes the structure of a like a an old mystery. No someone has died. And everybody's shows up the hotels for the funeral and the reading of the will in people start dying but before people start dying they start screwing in. There's just a lot of screwing. And then eventually people start dying and then it goes back to the screwing and then some more people die and it goes back. It's mostly a lot of butts boobs in clearly. That's the market is intended for. It's just selling it for you. Know sleaze but it has like once in a while. He'll do some crazy visuals stuff. Like in gestapo's last orgy new. It's in the new princess. which is you know. A woman from a fake made up. African country comes to a Trade summit and everybody's more interested in her scandalous sexual background in their journalists. Trying to find out what's happening everybody's having sex with everybody and it ends with an orgy with all the politicians in. There's a bird flying around. You told me about this bird just keeps cutting like close to the bird's eye and the beak and it's just like is this bird actually part of the orgy is this some sort of metaphor don't really know. I hope the bird was okay. Yeah he's just clearly. He still maintained that like psychedelic. You know sort of surreal extreme style I can't imagine people would have been that thrilled by seeing that in the middle of the orgy. If you came to actually see the type of content you would. I can't imagine the satisfied. Maybe that's why he didn't make a lot of movies. The new princess was put out by mondo macabre quite a few years ago and had extras and everything. So it looks that one has something going for it. Metallo had one extra was an interview with lucas l. on that wildest disc though he barely talks about muklewicz more kind of his career overall. And it's one of those frustrating things where he says. Why told you about this already. And you can hear the cameraman. Say you told us about it. But the camera wasn't pleased. Ellis again kennedy thing so it was an interesting interview. And i can't remember when they shot it but he still had the baby face even when he was however old he was twenty thirty years after. This movie was shot. He still has that baby face. So it's just like. Wow you don't look like you've aged very much at all sir. It's a very distinctive. Look at a guy. That's you know you put him on camera. People are gonna notice in my god. I am so glad that you set me high in the safe because that was so good and it sounds kinda similar. The the idea of they're not necessarily getting together in screwing they're getting together and screen each other over but it reminded me a lot of like ten liberal indians where it's like okay. We've got these people. They all want this thing this safe of the title or bank fault of the direct translation and the want this really bad and they have seven keys and okay. We're going to kill off all seven of them at one point. There's going to be one person who's holding all the keys houses going to play out and i loved the way that the handled it. I'd love the main theme that they played quite a few times through it. I love the use of the close circuit cameras that they had just saw it. It made me so happy watching that movie the other night he has. He has a real knack for these sort of like ensemble multiple characters all sort of going against each other plots as you think you some that you summarize it perfectly with sort of agatha christie analogy and. I could see that he was trying to do that. In the killing of the flesh. That mystery wasn't really the purpose of they. At some point they sort of reveal. You know why people have been dying and it's like oh okay. No-one really set enough dialogue to build towards this bottom with her weird thing to in hyena. Where the guy who's faulted to this is kind of back. He's the disembodied voice in from a helicopter up above and just like shouting at people down below. About how horrible and use this. They are and i'm like. Is that really him up there. I thought he was supposed to be dead. It's it's almost like voice beyond the grave or like the voice of god kind of thing because he's just hovering in this helicopter and seeing everything that's going on it's a really surreal touch. I wasn't expecting that thank you. Yeah i would love to see more of this stuff. And i'd love to see just you know. Proper translations nice transfers all of that and because he was all over the map with his different styles that he was doing while nut styles different genres but then bringing his style to it each and every single time. And he's a euro spy sorta 007 seven spoof tango dollar russia. I've i don't know how to how to see that. That's also available on cinema gidon but also not available in english in any form. I think it's they've got a rip from tv and maybe a like from vhs or dvd. But yeah it looks like a dvd rip but neither version has english language options. Well you know they say you. Just get a half to learn italian. i tried. I tried a couple years in college. Didn't work very well. same i retain minimal. I should try again. i would say. Don't learn spanish in than learn italian because you'll end up like me and like speaking. This weird amalgamation of both. That is exactly what happened when i had to go in for my italian oral. I hadn't taken spanish for several years in. I apparently was saying things that i correct in spanish that i did not know that i knew how to say they still passed me. Maybe they shouldn't have well. It's a romance language. Come on i think they just took pity on the any interviews that i'm able to find what kind of our our in italian so you know that might help out there. He was interviewed in ninety. Six early. interview came out ninety six for a minute. Talion magazine called nocturnal or nocturna. And then cullen you found a an article or an essay about modelo but unfortunately it was all in french. We were able to translate that through google. Translate and really it does talk about the film quite a bit but it's more kind of positioning it in this like supernatural western sub-genre which of which there are a few other things like the first one that comes to my mind is was at paulblanco movie like black noon or something. There are other supernatural westerns. But this one just screams out at me as as far as how greeted handles the supernatural aspects will throw a shot up to mystery ranch from nineteen thirty two george. O'brien that's a fun. Little spooky western spooky westerns are. I love spooky westerns. But that's because there aren't enough you have things like grim prairie tales. Which is almost. it's it's an interesting movie. That's the word i would use. It is something the poster alone ladies and gentlemen the poster alone. All of the short stories are as hold hold up. Some are better than others. But i like the the sitting around the campfire but i think that was the most well written in wellstone part. It's just it. I mean it's just. I like horror westerns. I just wish that there were more and there aren't and then you get something like jona hex. Which is you know right. But it's a horror western like what about the living caution from nineteen fifty nine. It's a mexican film to know that one not seeing that one. that's good. I haven't i assume if you're mentioning it. We should watch. I mean there's also cursory undid which kino lorber put on blu ray last year which is pretty good. I keep thinking of horror westerns. Also act as comedy. I wanna say like you're the second or third dust till dawn movie is set in the old west and magic sure. Yeah they like goods. Like a prequel thing and i wanna see. Even one of the tremors movies is a set in the old west. So you've got the tremors creatures in an old mining town kind of thing so that was interesting. I liked that one a lost. It plays to humor more than horror. I would say i just want to watch the valley of glum. I love that. It's the clash. I watched that a couple of weeks ago. I've seen it. But i would like to watch it. There's there's there's a really great blu ray of it if it's still in print. Is it cowboys fighting dinosaurs. Yes i'm there for that. Then that's what montello needed. Just all of a sudden you know. He's got his boomerang. Throwing all of a sudden he throws what in a raptor just catches it in. Its mouth i mean. That's that's what this movie clearly needed. Well i think that's what the terrific world soprano is really needs rather than clone little girls. I need cowboys to show up. I i agree yes please yes. We ended this new dinosaur technology. I said chris pratt with with a boomerang. You know why not. No no no see here. They have the opportunity. They're making a third drastic world movie. Sam neill shows up and he has boomerangs because he already has cowboy thing going. That's right and he probably knows how to throw a boomerang and he can. He can hit. Chris pratt with boomer. And yes. I can see several times. Oh my goodness that could be a really good joke. Not that they want actual chris to get hit with a boomerang which violence upon people. But i think that would make for good movie. It'd be better than that remake of magnificent seven. oh my. I remember when i mike. I remember what you and i in toronto when that movie premiered. That's right. what twenty seventeen. Yeah yes sounds about right. Yeah that was the that was the year that was tiffs. Big thing that year. Oh god the magnificent seven yet never understand why film festivals go for like. This is the movie that's going to open wide in three weeks. But we're gonna premiere here at the festival. What doing the district distributor pays them a lot of money. Because that's going to generate a lot of pre movie buzz and reviews for that movie. That got was no buzz in was terrible. Speaking of remix no gibson is now directing the wild bunch. Remaking he's gonna turn it into a gothic western apocalyptic. Butch this many movies. That don't need to be remade. And clearly wild bunch in my opinion is one of those end of the people who leased need to remake. It would be mel gibson. I would go. As far as to say that most films don't need mel gibson remaking them i didn't mind apocalypse. Oh just for the record. I haven't seen it and i would like to. It was actually pretty decent. Yeah but like. I don't want him to make someone else's movie as what i'm getting at like he can make his own weird ass shit cause apocalypse though is good and weird. It is a bizarre movie. I thought he was doing. The sequel. To passionate of the christ is passionate. Trae sequel. Going to be the wild bunch. What's that movie. i would watch movie. Yeah that would work. I mean how many apostles were there versus. How many in the wild bunch. Yeah which borgnine is he. Jesus no. that'd be william holden right. Yeah yeah i think working. I might be thomas. Does that mean the rubber ryan characters judas. That would be kinda already was i. What we this. This movie's halfway down. I just gotta find the actors to do it. While i mean they had some really good actress in that magnificent seven remake may get to now frio or even then sell back in there. A really did right. What the fuck you and hawk was really. Yeah it's like so many good actors and nodes he missed that one. Barely remember ryan reynolds was he. Where k why. How did they not managed to rack the wrangle him into that one. I guess they already got their pithy white man. That was chris pratt. All right we are going to take a break and play trailer for next week. Show right after these brief messages. 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#EERS S9 Ep74: The Wheels on the Bus Go Round and Round Brian Kemp

The Erick Erickson Show

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#EERS S9 Ep74: The Wheels on the Bus Go Round and Round Brian Kemp

"Good morning has your mother never told you to get out and get sunshine lured welcome. It's Eric Erickson here. I the the media meltdown over the president's question yesterday even Lysol felt the need to release statements aid. Please don't inject Lysol into your veins. I I was having a the head an email exchange this morning with the folks up in Habersham County. Deputy a gym and yes. My Show writes itself today easy show. Prep the Good Gracious. All right all right all right let me let me give you the audio here to begin with so that you have a a sense of it so that you understand. I wasn't even start the show with this and then I started doing show. Prep this morning. I can put this off a little while and then I started to show brought the New York Times. Don't drink bleach the La Times daldry bleach. Both the president suggests swallowing Tanning Salat. Lobbied seriously you would think that the president would suddenly be supportive of Georgia reopening. The tanning salons would be open. So you get that. Uv Light Good Gracious. Okay Lemme Lemme Lemme set the stage. Here we begin with Phil Brian of the Department of Health and Human Services. Given a briefing to reporters yesterday. It turns out that sunlight and disinfected can kill by surprise. I don't know if you even knew that. That sunlight and disinfectant could kill the virus. This this may be new to you. Now I distinctly remember when I was a kid my mother. My grandmother was a nurse. And in we'd tell us to go outside get sunlight. Sunlight was good for you. major bones strong Kept you from getting sick. If you had a cold you should get a little air. You should get some sunshine and a would go outside. Likewise we've been told this whole time hand sanitizer we'd been told disinfected we've been told white down counters. We've been doled disinfectant. Kills the virus. This isn't new stuff. I mean. This isn't even recent stuff and guess what the Department of Health and Human Services. The scientists have been experimental. The girl in a virus are most striking observation to date is the powerful effect that solar light appears to have on killing the virus both surfaces and in the air. We've seen similar effect with both temperature and humidity as well where increasing the temperature and humidity or both is generally less favorable to the virus. So let me illustrate with this. I lied if you look to the right. You'll see that term half-life with a bunch of timestamps on their first let me tell you what a half life is. We don't measure the viruses. Far How long we live on a surface we have to measure the decay of the virus in terms of its half life because we don't know certain elements we don't know how much person expect rates when he when he spits right when he sneezes whatever the case may be. We don't know how much viruses in there so that that has a long bearing on how long the virus is going to be alive and active so we met half light because half life doesn't change so if you look at an eighteen hour half life which are basically saying every eighteen hours the virus the life of the viruses cut in half so if you start with a thousand particles of the virus in eighteen hours you're down to five hundred in eighteen hours after that you're down to two fifty and so on and so forth that's important as I explained the rest of the chart. If you look at the first three lines you see the word surface we're talking about. Non Porous surfaces door handles stainless steel. And if you look at the as the temperature increases as humidity increases with no son involved you can see how drastically the half life goes down virus so the viruses dying at a much. More rapid pace just exposure to higher temperatures and just exposure humidity. If you look at the fourth line you inject summer the sunlight into that you inject UV rays into that the same effects on line. Two as seventy to seventy five degrees with eighty percent humidity on the surface and look at line four but now you inject the sun. The half life goes six hours to two minutes. That's how much of an impact a UV? Rays has on the virus surprise. Did you do? Did you not know this? I I mean and listen. I'm not disparaging Phil Bryant with apartment of of Health and Human Services but reporters were treating this as if they never heard this. How could this be well? The president after this presentation was over. If I heard this last night I heard this last night. I literally you can. You can see the moment. The president said it because all. I did is I tweeted. Oh boy I actually. I deleted the first thing that I tweeted. I deleted what I was going to tweet because it had bad words at the hall. I'm going to get a note from various preachers. Who Follow me on twitter. He asked Levy Levy. Let let me let the president it. Is it a question that probably some where to go? You thinking of if you're totally into that world which I find to be very interesting. So supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous Whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light and I think you said that has been checked. But you're going to test and then I said supposing you brought the light inside the buddy you can which you can do either through the skin or In some of the way and I think you said you're going to testify to sounds interesting right. And then I see the disinfectant. Nazi out in a minute minute and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or or almost cleaning because you see gets on the lungs and it does a tremendous number will also be interesting to check that so that you're GonNa have to use medical doctors with it? Sounds it sounds interesting to me. So we'll see but the whole concept of the light the way kills it in one minute that's That's pretty powerful. So okay so the president. The President says the the President says that Okay so disinfectant. Worse what we should we should. We should try to figure out a way to to Inject get disinfected into people's bodies or or UV rays through the skin. Or I mean the president's clearly an indoor tanning or swallow a lightbulb what I B- to be clear here. The president of the United States was not telling people to drink bleach. I mean we've already got a generation that swallows tide pods without prompting media concerned there but the president was not suggested he was asking question saying this needs to be research. Well Jonathan Karl took a clear lead from walk phone. There's no scenario be Jackie person. I I'm you're talking about find that we hadn't studied. We don't do that with Matlab our labs party rock almost Clinton sterilization of an area. Maybe it works. Maybe it doesn't work but it certainly has a big effect if it's on a stationary ab The media of course going nuts here. Sanjay Gupta on CNN last night. I mean I'm going to leave up to you to but it just seems wildly responsible for the President United States. Out Loud about people injecting disinfectant. you know used bleach and other doing anything with that internally it just doctors what do you make it you know. It needs to be studied actually a dozen. I mean we know the answer to this one. You know I mean. There's a lot of things out there that we don't know the answers to. We need to investigate but the idea that we would do a trial of some sort of inject some people with disinfectant than some people. Not and see what happens. I mean as you point out I think. I think everybody would know that. That would be dangerous and counter-productive and not at all moving in the right direction Okay let's let's let's go back to the president's question and I WANNA slow walk you through it. If you will a question that probably some of you were thinking of. If you're totally into that world which I find to be very interesting. The president as every man so supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous Whether it's ultra or just very powerful light. What about putting them in a tanning bed and I think you said that has a majestic but you're going to test so so it hasn't been checked. It hasn't been checked people. The president just said it hasn't been checked and they're going to test to the experts are going to test and he either. There's there has not been a statement from the president. They're saying go out and do this. And I said supposing the light inside the body you can which you can do either through the skinner in some of the way and I think you said you're going to test that too so so they're they're testing that figure out. If it's possible not not that you should do it interesting. It sounds interesting. It's untried and untested. I see the disinfectant. Nazi out in a minute. One Minute and is there a way we can do something like that? Is there a way that we can disinfect? The body by injection or or almost a cleaning. Because you see gets more than it does a tremendous number along so it'd be interesting to check that so interesting medical doctors with but it sounds. It sounds interesting to medical doctors. He named checks to see if medical doctors when check this. So he's not talking about you. This is the problem with the media. Here yes if you're a person of of normal common sense. Is this a question? You would have probably not to be fair. I have in my house I I use a company called peachtree service experts. They came down to my house and they put in to my air conditioning. Units upstairs and downstairs a UV light filter as air conditioning passes through a as the air passes through this filter. The very bright UV. Light Bulbs that are in this thing. Kill the mold. The bacteria the viruses. The spores cleans the air. And you know we. We've actually seen real world of benefit of this We have an air intake upstairs. That is outside our kids bathroom and in both of the kids rooms. The air the kids rooms on either side of this thing and the air into the air blowing into their room. You can tell. There's been a mill dewey build up and we presume it is because the air intake. Shuki sucking the moisture out of the shower when it gets take a shower and get emailed gone the UV. I I was skeptical of these things. We decided to put it in because my son has really bad allergies. I was skeptical of it works it. Totally works did not believe it would work. It works Yeah I paid yes. I paid the money not knowing that it would work because family insistence you. You do these things. If Your Dad you get it and it works. It IS A. Uv is basically a tube that the all the year flows through it gets hit with really bright UV. Light and it wipes out everything. We are not having the mold mildew problem that we were having they they work better than the air filters they work in conjunction with the air filters so I know this stuff. But let's be clear here you don't want to inject bleach into your body. You don't want to inject bleach into your body but let's also be clear here. I've played you the audio twice. Nowhere in the audio does the president of the United States suggest drinking bleach. Nowhere in the audio. Does the president suggest swallowing a UV? Light source nowhere in the audio. Does the president recommend home trials for this nowhere in the audio? Does the president of the United States suggest? Everybody should do it now. What the president does is. He says they're going to look into it thoroughly going to test it. He knows that the people the crowd probably have that question. And don't worry you don't have to ask that question because he's already asked the question and here's what they told him. You know. I see a reporter on twitter saying that will. This is just proof. He wasn't actually in the briefing I am I it. It's I- y'all I got. I got nothing discombobulated with the with the with the media here. What a what a bizarre bizarre thing. I'm I'm I'm I'm still all hung up on on the media reaction to this because it seems so innocent and if Barack Obama were there you and I both know now they'll say well. He moved very these questions no he. He was notorious for asking these questions to make himself look smart during press briefings and he's such a genius. Can I have his baby? I mean you'd have them in in the press room saying that and e Lou President Bush. Okay do I think the question was yes? Come on now I I. I think it was a silly thing I do i. I'm not the brightest bulb in in in the store but I know enough to know There's there there you know there are these filter things. But and there are tanning beds but Nath you're not GonNa get UV penetration into someone's lungs to to get them unless they swallow a light bulb and that's not gonNA work. You're gonNA sunburn their lungs and that's GonNa make situation worse and you're not gonNA inject bleach or inhale Lysol. That's it's not GonNa do you any good to inhale the Lysol. But he never said that he i. I'm used to this president saying things that are kind of off the wall and everybody else's too but he never unlike I mean just contrast is with the Clark one thing where the president said repeatedly that he looks like it anecdotally. It looks like it looks like it's good. It looks like it's working as it looks like he's good. He never suggested anyone go out and buy it themselves. You got a prescription. You gotta go through your doctor. He was trying to make people aware. And here's the other thing anyone who knows anything about this president. Speaking style understands this. Is the president trying to offer some hope? The media doesn't like the way the president wanted to offer up the hope but it was the president offering a pope that that's all it was. That's all it was is offering hope to people. And they're going to condemn him for it. They're going to accuse him in in. Isn't the underlying situation here that they think you people are stupid? They think your so stupid. You're going to go do this. I mean that's gotta be the underlying premise. Because who's GonNa go inject bleach into their body? Who's going to go there? Maybe some Democrat partisan out there today who decides. They're going to go on and die by injecting bleach. And make sure everybody knows that they're doing it because the president did it so the media can have a headline man kills himself listening to the president. Never mind it was democratic partisan using his death to make the president look bad that might happen but regular joe out there. He's irregular. Joe Is not going out there to inject himself with bleach. A stupid story ended a stupid story that I've got to start the show with to to push back on the stupidity of the media not on not on the president's stupidity not on the question for the president not on anything related to the president but on the media did. The president suggests that the doctors the scientists should experiment on flooding the body with UV rays. He absolutely did. I have played you the audio twice. Did the president suggests they should medically test injecting people with disinfected. Yes he did. I played you the audio. Did the president suggest that you should do it? No no he didn't. He made clear that doctors need to test it. The media is doing their best to destroy their own credibility. The media is doing their best president and I really really think that the media believes as long as they try to twist everything on the president in turn his words against him that they're actually helping Joe Biden. I I really believe. They think that they're helping. Joe Biden by doing these sorts of things. They have become largest aunts. They WANNA THEY WANNA do it. They can't for Biden. They know that their news networks are not gonNA stop covering these press conferences. Why 'cause they're rating success they are? The president's press conferences are actually helping the president in in getting eyeballs. The these are his new campaign rallies and so the way to push back for the media is to twist in real time his words and try to embarrass him with his words by distorting the things he said. I just I think it's silly I think it's it is a genuinely silly thing and we're going to get more of it and it's GonNa aggravate me more. You Know I. I joke with Charlie my producer that I could do every day I could do the show and base it on The nonsense in the media. We we could do an entire three hour show every day of the week including Saturday and Sunday inches. Make it based on the stupid spiteful. Stuff that happens in the media. Okay when we come back we need to go on. There's an antibody test in New York city that's raising eyebrows. And now the pushback from New York. They haven't actually released the test over all. We need to talk about that. Because I'm getting a lot of questions about it and I got some answers for you when we come back. It is your your accent here. The Eric your show and you know you can call in I. I've had my tirade on whether or not to drink bleach. You can call in now. Eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. Them's the numbers. I want to go into this. Antibody study in New York City. Let me see if I can pull up a Andrew Cuomo. Andrew Cole moved. Twitter should pull this up four. I'm a professional. I can do it quickly. Assuming my internet works. The Internet is getting very glitzy today all sorts of people. I guess if decided to give up working today in livestream net flicks Here we go There is a integral tweeted this out. Let me read you. His tweets new the first phase of results from a statewide antibody study Orrin. We collected approximately three thousand antibody samples from forty locations in nineteen counties. Preliminary estimates show a thirteen point nine percent infection rate the percent positive by region. Long Island sixteen point seven New York City. Twenty one point to Westchester Rockland. Eleven point seven rest of the state three point six weighted results percent positive demographic Female twelve percent male fifteen point nine percent. Asian eleven point seven percent black twenty two point one percent Latino Hispanic twenty two point five percent Multi-ethnic twenty two point. Eight percent white nine point one percent weighted results. The implication here is that about thirteen to fourteen percent of people in New York City. Got The virus way more than as advertised. And that's actually really good news. The reason it's really good news is if you were to extrapolate all of this stuff out You actually do have a mortality rate less than one percent and you do have an infection rate. Did this. This very much does look more like the flu and for months the experts have been saying otherwise. I been convened. You with the experts said that this is worse the flu the mortality rate. Even Dr Vouches. It'd probably about one percent. Not The three to five percent of this would suggest. The mortality rate is actually way less than that. We know in real world sampling. This isn't that there's something wrong here. And the reason we know there's something in the real world wrong here is because of the death rate in New York City just based on confirmed positive cases and confirmed positive cases the mortality rate is in New York City Astronomical compared to the flu more people have died in a week. Who tested positive. Covert nineteen then all of the people in New York City last year. Who tested positive of or were presumed to have the flu so just in positive test of covert nineteen where people died in week in New York City then last year all the people who were either tested positive for the flu or presumed to have the flu so we know that there is a we know. There's a problem and we know there's something with the data but still even if we're skeptical of the data. It's good news because there is an ongoing pattern of studies and the study in adding Northern California Southern California the two in Boston and now this one suggest the viruses way more prevalent than we thought it. If it's way more prevalent than we thought many more people got it didn't even if they had it in that's good and many more people survived than died and that's good. There is one note though this morning. There will actually. There are several notes first of all first of all if this is true then. This really is a flu like illness so we need to ask ourselves then. Why people aren't being over y? Y hospitals? Don't get overwhelmed in the same way with the flu and we need to ask ourselves. Why people who test positive from this have a higher rate of. We're tally of the people who test positive for the flu. We ask those questions. But there's also this Newark has not actually released the findings. The governor tweeted out the initial findings. But they haven't actually released the report and Now New York's Health Commissioner now. The idiot woman told people hang out of the subway but actual New York South Commissioner. Who was telling people to go to Chinatown and everything was going to be. Okay a New York Health Commissioner. Put out a tweet this morning. He said hold up. There are some problems here. This test has very high false positives meaning a lot of people tested positive who shouldn't have tested positive. It also has very high false negatives meaning people who should have tested positive tested negative now. A friend of mine says you can do a mathematical extraction based on the percentage of false positive and the percentage of false negatives and get a sense I don't know that they've done that. We seen the full study yet. This is all an issue did. We don't know that they did that. That does make sense to me so in other words you can't use the antibody test to tell whether an individual person had or did not have the virus. But if you know that. This antibody test delivers a twenty percent false positive rate and a twenty percent false negative rate. Then you can assume that twenty percent of the people tested negative headed in twenty percent of the people who tested positive. Didn't have it but there's something else here as well The The New York's Commissioner on health is pointing out the antibody test tests positive not just falsely but also for other viruses so the antibody test for covert nineteen might trigger a positive test for someone who's had another curl virus or for the common cold so there's hope and there is a clear pattern. It actually clear pattern We've now got a northern California test southern California test to test in Boston one in the community one in a homeless community and now we massive. What a New York City? And they're all showing the same thing the viruses more widespread. The question is how much more widespread is it and this is the other one that that people are are ignoring. We know that last year. I'm trying to go slow here so you understand this because I realized there's a lot of data I'm not trying to bore you either. Don't be bored by this. You'll you'll be more educated than your neighbor. We know that last year in the United States I I shouldn't say last year in the two thousand eighteen two thousand nineteen flu season in the two thousand eighteen thousand flu season. That goes from roughly October to April. May Ish October to April is the best way to think of it so from October to April in two thousand eighteen. Two Thousand Nineteen seven thousand. People who tested positive for the flu died and we do way more flu tests than we do. Covert nineteen tests and only seven thousand of the people who tested positive for the flu died. We're over forty thousand people in eight weeks dying from cove nineteen. Why is it that people who have confirmed tests of one die so much more at eight weeks than people who have the other if we suggest that there is a widespread and again more people get the flu test each year than this so there is a disproportionate nature here that still suggests cove in one thousand? Nine hundred is much worse than the flu even as as it seems to be as widespread as the flu so more people with a positive test. Now I can tell you what's going to happen. They're going to be conspiracy theories out there who suggest that it is the test. That's causing people to die. You and I both know that's going to happen. That people are going to causation. Correlation up more people do this therefore we must we must be killing people by giving them the test Not Sure we've gotta we gotta figure out what's going on and there's so much we don't know let let's go into some of the things we don't know for example so soon let's focus on the actual facts because there are a lot of facts. We don't know that the trend line. You're actually very good that this virus is actually more widespread than we know which would bring down hospitalization rates. It would bring down. It would bring them mortality rates. Those are all good things we do. Need to know these things but for example loss of smell. If you wake up and realize you can't smell your coffee. In the morning. You probably need to go. Get tested for cove in nineteen that is one of the key indicators that something's happened in fact there's a report out today that the people with the worst Cova nineteen symptoms. Don't actually get fever. But most of them lose their sense of smell that stuff. We did not know a month ago. We now know in the last few weeks. We know that people who get covert nineteen have weird clotting problems you can be on blood thinner instill clot. I am on blood clots in my lungs several years ago and more came back. And so I'm on. That right now probably will be for the rest of my life. Mozzarell- to- thankfully not the not the rat poison. But apparently I could blood clots. Even though I'm on blood thinner from Cova nineteen. We did not know that three weeks ago turns out in the last week in a comprehensive review liver permanent liver and kidney damage is possible from Cova nineteen again. We didn't know that last year now next now next we did not know that you can have long term lung problems from coordinating. We knew people could have lung problems. We did not know people could have permanent lung problems. That as well is something we did not know. We ASSUMED LUNGS WOULD HEAL. But now we're learning that covert nineteen we. Now let's be. Let's be careful here. Let me be careful. We know for example that Cova nineteen can give you pneumonia in the MONJA can cause lung. Permanent Lung scarring. We knew that but we did not know is that Cova nineteen in addition to the pneumatics new Monja like scarring we could actually have additional scarring from Cova. Nineteen that is separate and apart from pneumonia. That's something new. So loss of smell is something we've learned in the last month. Cloudiness something we've learned last month. Heart damage is something we have learned the last two months there. In fact that that's the number one cause of death from covert nineteen is not suffocation of your lungs to actually heart damage actually heart attack because your blood oxygen level drops so much you get a heart attack in fact an overwhelming number of people who leave the hospital in our cleared fall over dead within a week of art attack. That's something we didn't know three months ago but in the last two months we figured out and then there's the liver damage and the kidney damage there. There's the lung there's the permanent lung damage in non ammonia-like ways none of these things. We knew a month ago. So there's clearly a lot about this. We don't know and so it's clearly incumbent on us to keep learning as much as we possibly can. So I'm encouraged. I am encouraged by all of the studies showing us that the viruses more widespread you. You may hear that as a bad thing. What do you mean this virus more widespread but if the viruses more widespread that means that the hospital rate is less than twenty percent that means that the mortality rate is less than five percent three percent of the United States four percent in Georgia but we also now know and I was talking to a to an an a guy yesterday. Who would know this? I can't tell you who I was talking to. I'm afraid but he said if you have a positive blood type you're more likely to get the virus and they don't know why if you're minority you're more likely to get the virus and they don't know if it's community behavior or if there's there's some genetic issue and by community behavior you know for all the talk about Evangelical Churches not closing his black churches across the country that are the ones that have Most likely are likely to stay open in the black communities. Disproportionately affected is there causation. Correlation that they haven't figured that out yet they're thinking there's actually genetic issue not a community spread issue so we don't know a lot of stuff only yesterday. Did we learn at the White House briefing? That heat really does have an impact on the virus. That that's an. Was it open question until yesterday? We're also learning that ISOPROPYL. Alcohol kills the virus in thirty seconds and bleach takes up the five minutes. That's something we learned yesterday. All of the stuff is new so when study after study after study after study after study that five studies come out and say it looks like there's more widespread community spread even though there are flaws even though the antibody testing we should say Haredi. This is good news. It means the viruses deadliest. We thought but we still have to be careful. We still have to be careful because there's so much we don't know about the virus in fact we also know in this new in the last week. It appears that the Europeans have a strain of covert nineteen. That's actually more deadly than the one in the United States. That's the latest speculation that the virus mutated in different ways in different countries. And they don't know why they're so much we don't know but there's reason to be optimistic. We shouldn't be scared by it but we should also understand. Let's still not overplay or underplay this. Let's keep with the facts instead of the speculation as best. We can all right the phone number here. Eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I WANNA go to Chris. Collin from the great fine city of Warner robins that will not stop growing a Chris. Hello Hi there hello. This is factually clip. I'm sorry my callscreener I lock him after this is over he wrote Chris get flocking. All right I was just calling. Ah We got a couple of points one is. I'm over sixty five so the we almost have to run from getting the flu. Shot when you go to the doctor's office so that automatically helps prevent deaf rights in our country. Now that's what we're striving for in this Kobe. Get the seniors especially up to speed on. That second point is talked to my daughter length yesterday. She's an rn so it was her husband and Middle Georgia and. She's saying that you know they're having people coming in and have been done. You know you've got a bad heart like my daddy did when he died of congestive heart failure but if they test them and they got a little bit of Kobe two semesters a covert nineteen when it was truly a heart and But my point to her was specially if these people don't have insurance they're getting paid for Clinton minute a covert. She said thirty five thousand dollars to go into uh so you get more than a homeless or whatever and don't have any insurance so there's clip because this is a real problem that we're GonNa have moving forward is because hospitals are under the cares at going to get more money if they have either primary or secondary Cova nineteen coating on. What that means is that if someone comes in They have a gunshot. They get tested for covert nineteen their humor gene from a gun shot if the hospital says they also had covert nineteen even though they died of the gunshot wound. They're going to get extra funding from the federal government. They shouldn't have done that. Because it is probably GONNA make hospitals place but a I I have a reason for the heart one because this is the one that comes with the most people they got a heart attack but they had covert nineteen. They're listing cove. Nineteen is the primary cause not the heart attack which came first chicken or the egg There there is a there's a real issue with covert nineteen in the heart. And that's why they're doing it. It's not I hope everyone will understand this that that it's not hospitals trying to system. They've been doing this now for a couple of months and the reason that they've been doing it for a couple must goes back to what I was saying before the break. The number one cause of death from covert nineteen is a heart attack. And I know there will be some of you out there because I can feel it in the force right now saying wokers there. Coating everybody is govind with a dive. Artefact no Here's what happens. It's it's gruesome actually and I've been hesitant to describe it because I knew their kids listening. What happens is your lungs. Which are very much like have the consistency of cream. They begin to harden into the texture of a marshmallow and covert nineteen progresses. Your lungs go from being the consistency of whipped cream to the consistency of a marshmallow to the consistency of a stale marshmallow and oxygen cannot then get through into your blood and your body. Slowly begins to starve itself of oxygen. You begin to suffocate. Now you get better and your heart has been damaged by covert nineteen because your lungs filled with fluid and you've been slowly drowning in pus in your lungs. They have cleared it up. Your lungs have scars. There are some parts of it still still hard but you no longer tests positive. You're breathing has come back. This is one of the weird things they haven't out the disease they have people with fifty percent blood oxygenation which should be fatal who are up walking around fine. Not even out of breath. They don't know why but they clear you. You go home from the hospital and within a week you drop dead of a heart attack. Their coating that has Kovic nineteen because that is a pattern because of the thousands and thousands of people who have died around the world about half of them have died of a heart attack due to heart damage from oxygen deprivation due to the virus. And so that's being coded as a covert nineteen debt. That's that's why so many people who were having heart attacks or the way. I hope that makes sense to you. The Way You die from cove. Nineteen in most cases is not that you drown in your own. Plus which is the second most likely reason you dye your lungs. Fill up with plus and you die. 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Brian Kemp of Georgia that they approved of his aggressive plan to allow businesses to reopen. Just a day before. Trump pulled an about face and publicly bashed the plan. According to two administration officials the green light from Pinson trump came in separate private conversations with the Republican governor. Both before Kim announced his plan to East Corona virus restrictions and after it was unveiled on Monday. The official said trump's sudden shift came only after top. Health advisors reviewed the plan more closely and persuaded the president that Kim was risking further spread of the virus by moving too quickly. I told the governor of Georgia. Brian Kip that I disagree strongly with his decision to open. Certain facilities trump said Wednesday. Just a day after telling reporters that he trusted Kim's judgment. He knows what he's doing. The president said on Thursday. He was even harder on the governor. I wasn't happy with Brian Kemp. I wasn't happy at all the extraordinary reversal and public criticism of GOP. Ally is only the latest in a series of contradictory and confusing messages from the president. On how and when he believes governor should e stay at home mortars intended to stop the spread of the deadly virus it demonstrates the political risk for governors and following the unpredictable President's guidance trump has been urging states to begin reopening for two weeks believing that certain portions of the country are now ready to resume aspects of life even against the recommendations of many of his own own health experts even though few states have met the benchmarks established by the White House. The president has cheered on efforts to liberate some states that has offered encouragement to the states. That announced plans to forge forward. Kim was among the first Republican governors. Take the cue. His order announced Monday allows businesses like Jim's Tattoo Parlors and bowling alleys to open on Friday under certain restrictions. That would be today when asked Tuesday about Kim's decision trump supporter. The governor saying he's a very capable man. He knows what he's doing. He's done a good job. As governor behind the scenes the administration had also been supportive. The president spoke to keep more than once about the plan and both trump and vice president. Mike Pence called Kemp on Tuesday to praise his performance as governor and his plan to reopen according to two administration officials who spoke on conditions of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discussed the conversations but on Wednesday members of the White House's virus task force revisited. The plan and felt it was too soon and would be difficult to defend in that afternoon's press briefing Dr Deborah burks. Who helped lead the white? House's Corona virus response then spoke to the president after the meeting and suggested it was too soon to reopen Georgia. An assertion with which the president agreed according to the official trump then called. Kipp and asked Kim to slow down his plan to which the governor said no said the official. The governor suggested the two men continue the discussion on another call but they did not speak again before the briefing which trump said he opposed some of the particulars of the plan to reopen. Trump noted that keeps reopening violated the White House guidelines and suggested. He would intervene if he saw something. Totally egregious on Thursday. He suggested he was particularly concerned by the idea. That camp would reopen spas. I want the state to open more than he does much more than he does. But I didn't like to see spas at this early stage nor did the doctors trump acknowledged he consult his health consulted his health experts. Burke said Dr Anthony Fauci and considered tried to block the proposal but I decided and we all agreed. You've got to watch it. We'll see what happened now. The rowdies he doesn't have the power to stop it. The governor thinks he's on the right path. I will tell you that. The trend lines on Monday and Tuesday. Buttressed the governor's findings that we were below the rate of a ray transmission of one Yesterday given some of the data that came in I I hope I explained on Tuesday and Wednesday. What rate of transmission is so essentially your rate of transmission needs to be below one if the virus rate of transmission is below a factor of one? Then the virus will stop spreading if the virus is above one the virus will produce the metric are. Rt represents the effective reproduction rate of a virus calculated. It lets you estimate how many secondary infections are likely to incur occur from a single infection specific spot values over one mean we expect more cases the higher above one the more quickly the virus will spread values below one mean the virus cannot spread in the community the further below one the more quickly the virus has stopped spreading and will die out when the governor opened the state on Monday and two in the Tuesday is he in the majors Nelson the rate of transmission in Georgia was point six yesterday because of some of the incoming data the viral rate was above one. It was at one point zero six today. I'm checking right now. There's a website. Rt Dot live where you can check and at rt dot live Georgia's rate is back down to a one which is still not great. The adjusted sampling shows that actually they had to change and it wasn't really above one or was it really below one at all with some of the new data that came in It may have fallen two point nine nine but otherwise it's about one so so it is flatlined that means it can still spread in the community. It has not declined in the community. So Georgia is right. On the cusp of being able to reopen. The data does suggest that there will be viral spread when we reopen. Let me give you the metric numbers right now. There are twenty one thousand eight hundred eighty three cases in Georgia. Four thousand one hundred fifty. Three people were hospitalized. Eight thousand eight hundred twenty one hundred dead but let me be more precise there have been twenty one thousand eight hundred eighty three total cases. There have been a total of four thousand one hundred fifty three people hospitalized and there have there are eight hundred eight hundred people dead. The hospitalization rate is cumulative meaning. There may only be a hundred people in the hospital right now with the krona virus but total in the last two months there have been four thousand one hundred fifty four there may only be twenty three new cases today and there may be only a five hundred people in Georgia with the virus right now but total there have been twenty one thousand eight hundred eighty three people affected. This is an important thing to remember. Let me give you the data here now and again if you want to see the data for yourself you don't have to believe me you can see it for yourself. You go to you. Text the word data to three three seven. Seven seven text. The word dated three three seven. Seven seven On April fourteen. That was the high day that was the highest day single day of of infection reports. Eight hundred forty. Three people infected on the fifteenth. Seven hundred four on the sixteenth seven hundred sixty one on the seventeenth. Six hundred forty on the eighteenth three hundred thirty four of the nineteen th four hundred four eight all the twentieth five hundred twenty three on the twenty first three hundred forty five on the twenty second seventy two on the twenty third thirty today. Let's see what is we don't have today's numbers yet. So there has been a fall of those numbers for the last couple of days Thirty on the twenty third seventy two on the twenty second. They'll go up as tests. Come back from those two days. There could be a forty eight seventy two hour backlog. Those will come in. Those numbers will go up but the trend lines are actually good we are. We are headed down. The problem is we're getting some spike. So for example on the seventeenth of April six hundred forty people were tested positive and on the eighteenth of April. Three hundred thirty four people were tested positive but then on the nineteenth four hundred forty eight people were tested positive and on the twentieth. Five hundred twenty three people so it went back up but then on the twenty-first who went down again. Three forty five in on the twenty second to seventy two all the twenty third to thirty keep in mind. There's a two week incubation period in some cases for this virus so that data matters. We're headed in the right direction. The question is are we there enough? The overwhelming consensus of experts is. We're not there yet. And the governor should not have done this. If I were the governor would waited another week and spend a lot more time and voter in in education. What are the problems we have in this play? If you only listen to one thing there's always in radio it's a three hour show. There's always one thing you should listen to. This is the moment I should have a special tone. Don Don Don a this is this is. This is the point. You should listen to the program right now. This moment remember this. The reason you see big jumps in the data for example we had twenty thousand yesterday. We have twenty one thousand today. The reason for the jump is not a thousand. People have tested positive in the past week or the past day or the past forty eight hours. The reason there's a thousand person jump is that they're still a backlog of tests from the beginning of the month that are just coming in and those get reported out on the same day as all the others. That thousand person jump is really a lot of cases where those people don't even have the virus anymore but the state's obligated to report them. They're doing a terrible job of Rian. This is this is why by the way. I think we should wait a week to two so that the governor could make a more logical presentation of the data that on a daily basis. Here's what we're looking at. You can see the decline yes. The overall report shows a spike but the reason is because of of old data. Finally coming in you know. The governor was with Martin McCallum and. She asked him this. And let me play you again. This is the governor with Martha McCallum on Fox News. All right so you know. We just watched doctor Deborah burks and she was questioned about your plan to reopen on Friday. And she said that she feels. It's incumbent and I'm paraphrasing incumbent upon governor such as yourself to be very transparent about the data that you used to make this decision so can you explain to everyone at home tonight? What is the data that brought you to this conclusion especially given the fact that that deaths are still rising in in Georgia? What data did you use? Well think it's important for people to understand how the data comes in a lot of the data that we're posting today. The testing or the fatality may have happened. You know five or six days ago Actually longer than that. I don't know if the governor realized some of the testing is coming in from a couple of weeks ago not just from a week ago. That's that's the issue though. That's why you're seeing these large daily numbers but the actual day to day numbers show a decline. That's what people are missing in all of this. That being said the expert experts. They knew this and they're still say it's too soon governor camp. It's too soon. So did y'all hear about Tom Brady. He's he's already become Florida man so the the Patriots quarterback is now going to Tampa Bay for reasons. I can't fathom and He he's he went to the the To his coach's house yesterday and the coach lives next door to a guy that guy's front door was unlocked. Brady got confused. The houses look kind of like any walked. It all the guy the guy thankfully a he he he was was dressed he was it is kitchen On a cell phone actually typing on a cellphone when he's Brady came in and had his Duffel bag dropped his duffel bag on the floor on the floor asked where the coach was guy says. Who are you is in my in. The wrong else grabbed his bag and left. Brady tweeted out that he he was auditioning for Florida Man. He's lucky he didn't get shot. The neighborhood though it was the place. I guess a gated community. Where you can. You can leave your. You can leave your front door unlocked. But yes the the the the guy had who was only after Brady left. It dawned on him that that was Tom Brady I. I can't repeat it the way he said it but nonetheless I I found that absolutely hysterical. You moved to Florida and immediately start becoming Florida man the phone number here if you would call eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five Kim in Hampton Georgia. You're going to be next. Welcome how are you? How are you? Hey I'm thin. And I'm listening on the Habur sham streaming online and working for my Home Office. Yeah exciting that I've found you online I'm I have my mom and my wife of three First responders and I want to know about testing. We're talking about opening Up Georgia but nobody's talking about testing. When is George GONNA get testing for everybody? I mean we Tennessee right now and get a test for free with no symptoms. No doctor note or whatever that you so they're working on it and even the governor has lamented the slow process. Which again suggests. Maybe we should've waited another week or two A walgreens in Alfa Reta is going to start using their drive through for testing And other pharmacies are coming online with it but it is a a painfully slow process. Georgia is actually the bottom fifteen. They were the bottom tins or they actually have made improvements. They've gone about five points but still in the bottom fifteen on a fifty states in testing which is not good and we need more testing is so what are the big reasons in Georgia is because our outbreak began to happen Later Than California Oregon Washington New York and New Jersey so a lot of the resources for testing capacity. Were moved there first Georgia did not then outlay Expenses for testing kits in the state themselves. Instead Georgia prioritized buying ventilators masks and things like that for hospital workers so that put us behind in testing and able to order order supplies because the state supply chain officials decided it was better to buy stuff for the hospital workers than to actually get the testing kits. Ramped up and in hindsight probably a mistake But that is th that was it. Now what are they doing to fix it? Well they are now ordering more testing kits. And they're also cooperating with private businesses that we also in Georgia don't have very good lab. LemMe Kim if you're listening here on the WCHS stream up in Hamilton County Let me let me give you this data right here because this this puts in perspective one of the problems the state rain into initially Whereas if you text data to three three seven seven seven you'll see this total number of tests the Georgia Public Health Lab has only tested six thousand five hundred thirty seven cases. It's been the commercial labs that have tested ninety four thousand five hundred twenty five cases and the commercial labs are still coming online and Georgia and again Not to excuse them in. You can say that that they should have done. They should have prioritized testing but when the state was making allocations for for how to get involved they they decided to prioritize and it had a lot to do with the outbreak in dougherty county. You need understands. So much of the state's response was because of Dougherty County They needed hospital ventilators. They needed more. Icu capacity they needed more personal protection equipment. They needed all of that stuff and they've had to prioritize that over the testing the problem is that caused them to get behind on the testing and now they're having ramp up on the testing and they're having to have private companies step in to help them. Thankfully the private companies are stepping in. We're day over day. We're improving the capacity. But it's not where we should be but you do need to in fairness to the state and the governor remember that so much of this was in response to what happened in Dougherty County. That shook up everything in the state. Limb explained a little more when we come back alright. Alright Lemme lemme. Lemme a spend a few moments if you just just listening just tune in our last caller was asking about testing. And why are we lagging behind and there actually is a reason for part of that before we get to any of that though? 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Brown them Put them in a baking dish. Put them in the oven on two seventy five for two hours with his scripts barbecues awesome. You got fantastic. Easy pulled pork Good good stuff now. Let me get to what happened. In Georgia that affected testing Georgia got overwhelmed very quickly with a super spreader event. I've mentioned before there was a funeral in dirty county That's that's Albany. A BLACK CONGREGATION. Large funeral a preacher. Who was infected and did not know it and he ultimately wound up. He was a symptomatic. He was highly contagious but had no symptoms. He ultimately wound up being hospitalized. When the symptoms started flaring up but Dougherty County Albany Let me do. What is the? I'm going to figure this out on the fly. Population of Dougherty County Georgia The population of Dougherty County Georgia is eighty seven thousand nine hundred fifty six eighty seven thousand nine hundred fifty six and in Dorothy County Georgia. As of today there are a thousand. Four hundred seventy eight infections to put this in perspective into Cab Care Fulton County. There are a million people and there are two thousand four hundred thirty six cases in Dorothy County. There are slightly less than two thousand cases. One point six percent of Dougherty County one point. Six eight percent of dougherty county has Kovic Nineteen. Let me let me do this again. Make sure the math right. There are one thousand four hundred seventy eight cases. The population is eighty seven thousand nine hundred fifty six yup one point six eight percent of Dougherty County has cove in nineteen and in Fulton County. There is one point zero six four million people in Fulton County. There are two thousand four hundred thirty six cases as of right now there are one million sixty four thousand people in Fulton County. So that gives you an infection rate of point two percent so in dougherty county you got over. One percent of the population got cove nineteen in Fulton County. Two tenths of a percent and the reason is the supervisor there have been more deaths and already county than any other county in the state. A hundred nine deaths in Dougherty County hospital system got overwhelmed. Phoebe Putney Memorial Hospital. It's a sizable hospital for dirty county. Not a sizable hospital in terms of an urban area like Atlanta. But for Dougherty County Sizable Hospital. There are a lot of outpatient facilities. There where you can do outpatient ent centers where you can do skin. Cancer Surgeries tonsillectomies You've got an outpatient surgical center for plastic surgery down there. You've got an orthopedic center down there where you can do. Minor things there in Dorsey. County got overwhelmed very quickly. But it wasn't just already county because dirty county also takes care of Lee County where there are two hundred ninety eight Cases in Mitchell County. Were there two hundred ninety cases? Now let me put this a little bit more in perspective for you. Just so you understand In Lee County Georgia Lee County is a Leesburg. Has the county just north of Albany? It is the essentially the the as a friend of mine who live down there once. Put it the white suburb of Dougherty County in Lee County. There are twenty nine thousand nine hundred twenty two people Let's see am I doing this? Right Twenty nine nine nine to tie games one hundred so in Lee county one percent of the population of that county. Roughly has cove nineteen Mitchell. Cownie is the same boat. Mitchell County is just south of Albany Mitchell. County has two hundred ninety people or two hundred ninety cases Mitchell County the population Mitchell. County is twenty two thousand one hundred ninety two. That's Camilla Georgia. Commander of Camila. Camila Albany Leesburg and each of those three counties one percent of the entire population of each of those counties has covert Nineteen Fulton County which is Atlanta has two tenths of one percent of the county has cove in nineteen. Dekalb county less than that Gwinnett County about a tenth of the of the county in Cobb County about a tenth of the county. So you've got this massive outbreak in Dougherty County and the surrounding Areas Mitchell. Inle in particular in it all came out of a funeral preacher. Who was a super spreader was in the funeral? The funeral lasted a long time. After it was over the preacher hung out with the crowd. He shook hands with people he visited with people and he infected a ton of those people. Those people got infected. They didn't have symptoms. They went into their community. They infected even more people in the virus began to spread. So when you start having all of these people showing up at the hospital within a week of this funeral two weeks of the funeral the hospital gets overwhelmed very quickly and they don't have the capacity to ramp up and so the state had to take some very decisive quick action and what are the calculations made by the state was. We need to presume that anyone who goes to the hospital down there with flu. Like symptoms has cove in nineteen and we need to get that hospital extra beds. We need to get that hospital extra ventilators. We need extra tubing. We need extra mass. We need extra gloves. We didn't extra gowns. We need extra everything. We need extra doctors and we need extra nurses. They called up the Medical Reserve Corps in Georgia and they reassigned doctors and nurses some who were retired ready to get back in they sit him down to Albany put them in a Holiday Inn Express and put them to work and they ramped up care in south Georgia but that came at an expense. They were so focused on mitigating. What was happening in door county? The state was relying on the Department of to do the testing and they did not have resources at the time to get people working with the private labs to ramp up testing. It's not to say they weren't doing it. Altogether the problem was that they were so focused on dougherty county. Other states were putting in their procurement orders for the swabs and the test kits and everything else and Georgia was focused on beefing up the hospitals. Because we knew that if the spread out of Albany you were going to have overwhelmed hospitals in Tipton in Makin in Valdosta in Albany Beyond Albany was GONNA go over spill over to Columbus Bainbridge? All these places that had medical facilities. We're going to start getting overwhelmed very very quickly. So while other states were building testing Georgia had a critical fallout from super spreader in Albany. It had to spend its time and resources mitigating that by beefing up hospitals making sure hospitals were supplied and that changed things and so now. We've got the ongoing cascading effect of that is that Georgie is behind on testing overall. I I hope that makes its Kim called. Why haven't we beefed up testing and I wanted to give a detailed explanation because it's not really anybody's fault when you've got limited staff and limited resources sometimes you've gotta make the difficult decisions in the difficult decision in this case. Was that if this gets passed. Dorothy county we're going to have a statewide series epidemic and a lot of people are going to be hospitalized and we need to beef up hospitals first. And then worry about testing the presumption was made zoom. Everybody who has flu like symptoms has has covert nineteen will then Georgia was ready and by then testing kits. Were in short supply because they go into the other states so ironically. You know the irony here. Is that Georgia? Probably made the right call. I realized we're behind intesting but Georgia wound up having more medical resources than a number of other states so our hospitals have never reached critical breaking points in the ways that others did win. The situation started settling down in Albany. Georgia was able to the governor. Himself has said he was on this program when he talked about the National Guard was able to take supplies from Albany they said hey. Augusta is now beginning to fester. We need to head over to Augusta with the supplies. So they took the ones the excess capacity from south Georgia moved into Augusta and then Carroll County has had a big outbreak Carroll County. Pretty hard hit three hundred fourteen people in Carroll County have the virus. They were able to move the supplies over there at so they've been playing this game where they shuffle resources around the state and it's been working forum and they've been able to mitigate hospital situations in Georgia while meanwhile up in Floyd County and Floyd Floyd Floyd has you look at Floyd Floyd only has one hundred twenty eight cases in eight deaths. Floyd converted a parking deck into a field hospital. They may not have to use it. I don't know that they are using it but they did it to be on the safe side so Georgia made a calculation different from a lot of other states given the situation down in Albany that we need to be up hospitals before we'd be up testing the long term. That actually helps us because the governor now believes part of his calculus for saying we can reopen. The State is now. Our hospitals are so beefed up in the state that if it does start spreading again we should be able to search. But what are the actual numbers? I gave him too earlier. Let me give you sense of Mcginn. seventy is on the twentieth. There were five hundred twenty. Three you cases though. The twenty-first three forty five on the twenty. Second only seventy two people from the twenty second registered. Oh and then the twenty third yesterday only thirty people. The numbers are headed in the right direction. So I hope that little man that is way more than I intended. This fit I- exhaustively. So what was I supposed to? I was supposed to be talking. I have spared you. Kim's question in in Hampton I spared you having to hear about Joe Biden. Which isn't a bad thing we do. New drove out Joe Biden. We do need to talk about. Pcp as well. Since I spent so long on that way more than I intended making you guys smarter. I'm going to go on to take a commercial time out. And when we come back we actually need to talk about P P P the payroll protection program. It is getting more money from Congress today. But there's a problem it is a foreseeable problem. It is a problem. That many economists said would happen is a problem. I myself on this year. Radio program a month ago told you would happen. And now it's happening or we profits no. It was just obvious this was gonNA happen. You can call the program if you like eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven. Three seven four to five if you'd like to do that Let's talk about the Payroll Protection Program for real in a reminder They are adding more money today. The House's passing it the Senate has already passed it. The president will sign it. It should be funded by tomorrow. Which means they'll start rolling out checks on Monday. You gotta get your application in if you need your application. If you need to try second time go to my friends. At first liberty G. A. DOT COM. Click the apply. But you knew it online. You don't even have to call them and their newnan. The Frost family. They're good people. The payroll protection program is helping small businesses. But one of the downsides of it is that is making life miserable for restaurant tours because there's so many have pointed out. It is incentivizing unemployment. My Friendship Roy. Who is a Congressman? A longtime friend of mine and my wife's has an op. Ed In the Wall Street Journal today. Let me read you part of this for the past six weeks. And this is also Emily Williams night Who is the CEO of Texas Restaurant Association for the past six weeks? We've been on the phone with restaurant owners in cities and towns across Texas one of us. Mr Roy represents the congressional district home to the most restaurants per capita in the state employed more than fifty thousand Texans. The other midnight runs a trade association for the once thriving Texas restaurant industry which as of January one represents fifty thousand restaurants one point three million employees and seventy billion dollars in revenue to say restaurants have been devastated by government decisions to close their livelihoods. Doesn't do it justice. Many restaurants have shed staff and are operating solely on takeout and delivery which nets owner some thirty percent less on every order than dining in because of lower check. Averages and delivery costs not to mention loss tips for employees in many cases. Restaurant's changed their business models overnight and move to selling bulk retail Adam items to fill gaps in the supply chain in meet new customer needs. We expect sixty six hundred. Eighty eight thousand restaurant jobs in Texas will have been lost. By the end of April restaurants will see a record seventy percent decline in sales. Some thirty four percent of restaurants have temporarily closed while six percent expect to close for good in the next thirty days in the past week Austin institutions like thread Gills Magnolia's Cafe Veracruz all natural and INEX- in W brewery have shut down permanently. Oh the Magnolia cafe shut down permanently on Red Gills. That that's painful oh that's painful thread gills in Magnolia. Cafe is one of my places when I go to Austin is open twenty four hours you can go at three o'clock in the morning hung over and get pancakes. Not that I would know that now. Here's the problem. A lot of these businesses applied for payroll protection. They didn't get it because Congress didn't do what it needed to do. it didn't fully fund the program and only allocated two hundred fifty billion dollars because the Democrats wanted crap for all sorts of things that didn't need to happen. Well the other problem is that because they're paying people. If you get a dollar of unemployment benefits from the state you'll get six hundred dollars from the federal government so let. Let's say you're a waitress. You're making ten dollars an hour. You're working let's see. Let me see if I can do this. Let's let's see if I can do the math here. your I. I'm doing this on the fly. So you're making ten dollars an hour and you're working. Let's say a four hour shift five days a week. You're making two hundred dollars. Let's let's boost this year. You're making ten dollars an hour and you're working a six hour shift and you're doing it for five days a week. That's three hundred bucks. That's that's three hundred bucks for your work at a five hour shift at a restaurant. You're you're making ten bucks an hour. You just made three hundred bucks for the week. So your employer gets payroll protection for you in you. Get three hundred bucks from The payroll production program. So You keep your salary your budgeted for three hundred dollars for a week. You get three hundred dollars for the week but there's a problem. Let's say you go on employed now you you get unemployment from Texas so your unemployment. Let's say you get half of that. So you get one hundred fifty bucks an unemployment from Texas. You get half your salary. I I don't know what the Texas rate is so. I'm speculating here. Let's say you only get a dollar. Let let's say you go on employed in Texas and you make three hundred dollars a week as a waitress at the Magnolia cafe which is now out of business. You get three hundred bucks a week in your salary from work at five hour shift at ten dollars an hour you get three hundred bucks at the end of the week and then you go unemployed in Texas only pays you a dollar. Well that sucks but but but the federal government has decided to pay six hundred dollars a week in supplement. So you go. You make three hundred dollars a week as a waitress you going employed. You're hitting six hundred dollars from the federal government in addition to your state unemployment so even stated unemployment is the dollar. You're getting six hundred one dollars a week when working. You're making three hundred dollars a week. It is predictable to find out what happens. It is predictable to find out a lot of people a Lotta restaurant tours or finding out that their employees hate their guts for daring to actually get payroll protection this is from CNBC. This is a restaurant owner. Who was on? Cnbc talking about the problem. What how many employees do you have? And what happened to them? the employees You know again We furloughed them and then now we we have them working back and some of them are still some of them. Took unemployment is as you very. Well know that you know the unemployment if I got dishwashers I got servers. That are making three hundred dollars. They're getting six hundred dollars from from the federal government and You know they're they're going for for the unemployment. Well what does that? What does that mean for you? So you've got employees who are making more not working than they would be making working for you. What does that mean for Your Business? Going forward Well when when we're ready to get open up when they say hey it's time to open up. We'll be able to call them and they'll be off that unemployment and they'll be working back for us so the these people they they would rather take employment dot Com. It's not good. We have incentivised a lack of employment. 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She wants to go down to To what to Barrow Automotive and buy guns and in Butler but nonetheless This hour sponsored by daddy you go to dynamic money dot com. Chris Burns can be your financial advisor to he actually really good at it Any also is a good guest host here now. I I have a question for you is. This is this is important. Question is a very important question. Can the moon. Can the full moon calls a fever? I asked this well how do I? How do I WANNA do this? Okay so you know Chris. Cuomo on CNN. Let me let me play you the audio of Chris Cuomo mocking the President Right. This study was about surfaces though. And what kind of light or other type of treatments and different media you could use to affect viruses on surfaces not in the human body and the idea of household disinfectants inside the body. I mean we can't say enough. Nobody was breached on that. There is no science behind that the only question is where the president got this. Or what did he misinterpret so? Let's go from the bizarre odd to what we know actually happened in fact but we're figuring out why and that goes to Kaitlin. Dr Rick Bright is the best reckoning. Still that this was all about him. Saying things about hydrochloric went and priorities of the White House. That that's why he was moved or is there more to the story. Now that's Chris Cuomo. Who is a host on CNN? Who is married to a woman who runs a a a health website called purist so publication magazine in print and online and she's been outlining his treatments his his corona virus protocol in one of the things that she notes is that he takes baths with clorox bleach baths Has His the referenced? Been taken down clorox. Let's see Yup Yup Yup Christina Cuomo out note. She says she treated her curled. A virus with Clorox Yes Sir The the the CLOROX BATHS. Wow Yeah Christina. Cuomo says she put half a cup of clorox in her bath twice a week while she battled corona virus. It was recommended to her by an energy medicine doctor so her husband is on television mocking the president for suggesting using clorox and she is out there telling people to take baths in bleach because an energy. Dr Set it. Now listen I I have hesitation in qualms with mocking anyone for doing stuff like this to that degree But she she outlined on this purist website. She uses someone she calls Dr Linda. Lancaster let me let me tell you about Dr Lynn Lancaster. Holy Moly I pulled up this woman. Let's see Let me go back to yesterday. Where is this yes yes yes. Yes Dr Linda. Lancaster of Santa Fe. They actually said they. They sent a hair sample from Chris. Cuomo to Dr Lancaster. I'm assuming they overnight it they. They must've overnighted. Chris CUOMO's hair sample to Dr Linda. Lancaster Dr Linda checks sample of Chris's hair to provide an update and finds. He has low protein levels exhausted adrenals and high medals which constrict the immune system. She changes the homeopathic bit. With the addition of Moore's vitamin CS ZINC adrenal support hip and Osha Cough Syrup Baptist for a low grade fever and the addition of more meat. To the week's meal plan to mitigate low blood sugar that caused him to be dizzy a few days ago now. Dr Linda Lancaster is a healing and teaching specialist in energy medicines energy medicine people energy medicine. Yes lemony. She's a healing system bay. It's a healing system based on the philosophies of yoga a your visa and throw polcy. Tc OF NEUROPATHIC in nature op at the and homeopathy. Oh my goodness it has recommendations from Amanda See Freed Miranda Kerr and Robert Redford. That's right that's right. It is it is cuckoo for cocoa puffs. It would seem to me Let me read you her bio she's been doing this since nineteen eighty-seven celebrities love her doctor. Linda Lancaster is an energy medicine and homeopathic physician. She's been in practice since nineteen eighty-one unfounded. Light Harm Onyx Institute and Energy Medicine Clinic in Educational Center based in Santa Fe New Mexico. Her training includes homeopathy Radi. Onyx medical radius these yeeha subtle energy healing emotional spiritual grief counseling nutrition herbal medicine. Ayurveda and detoxification methods. Her health and cleansing programs have been offered to her patients for almost forty years. Homeopathic and Natural Medicine Physicians preferred non invasive treatments which minimize the risks of harmful side effects. Health or disease comes from a complex interaction of physical emotional mental dietary genetic environmental lifestyle and other factors heavy metals chemicals radiation parasites all played an important role in the analysis of the health of the patient. Every illness has an underlying cause which could be from Diet and habits of the individual. The whole person is considered taking all these factors into account and energy medicine. Physician is trained to find and facilitate removal of the underlying cause of disease to allow for the body's own innate ability to heal the original meaning of the word doctor is teacher. A principal objective is to educate the patient emphasized self responsibility for health homeopathic. Physicians recognize the importance of the doctor. Patient relationship late Harmonica Institute has been at the forefront in the current trend of the integration of medicines. Many students have trained with Dr Linda over the past forty years and she continues to treat art to teach art philosophy and the understanding of healing. She has treated thousands of patients. It almost forty years of practice and has developed a system of medicine which is now referred to as Light. Harm onyx healing. Dr Lancaster was Yogi Bosnians personal physician and remained by his side until his passing passing. He honored her with the conscious healer and Humanitarian Award in two thousand and two in an effort to create peace in healing. Dr Linda founded the Global Foundation for integrative medicines and is the current G F I M president. Wait so hang on his ticket. Sushi founded a foundation and surprise. She's the current medicine. This is Chris. Cuomo wife been consulting with him now. I just got to put this in perspective for you. It's not intended to be insulting here. It's my intent to point out that you've got this where it where they say such things as hang on. Let me Google. The word move because he is here. It is a Monday April. Six Chris's fever is ninety nine with an afternoon. Spike to one hundred one point five and an evening spike aggravated by full moon. Y'All y'all come on now okay. Question question have a question. I have a question. I'll come down. I'll do the light illumination energy own. home call me my body to ask the question. If the of the United States stood up in the press briefing and said we need to tap into our light energy to cure the virus forget. Uv just light energy if we tapped into our light energy to cure the virus and by the way. There's a full moon coming so fever going to spike. The press would say what the American press corps would say and yet we've got an anchor on CNN. Who's been treated this way? Oh my goodness I by the way. Thanks to Robert. Downey junior for sending something that they gotTa Namedrop Rob. I guess their friends. Oh my goodness Y'All yes. Thanks to Robert. Downey junior for additional natural remedies like Lippo ciric vitamin C and B packets and lung cleansing formulas. I I don't mean to be insulting to a family trying to find something but here's the thing Chris. Cuomo goes on television and mocks. The president for suggesting bleaches. A treatment for the for the virus and his wife is admitting. She's putting clorox in the bathtub to fight the infection and Chris Cuomo himself. Is doing this sort of stuff? Let me just read you some of this about Dr Linda. We're using a few herbs that we know are anti viral. Anti viral medications can suppress the immune system. But we're using known herbs that boost the immune system. There is some truth in that Dr. Linda kept her eye on what was happening in Italy. She's Italian she got ahead of the curve with the help of her her biologist son and started sending patient's immune formulas to keep their immune system in shape. She also created a different formula for those who already contracted the virus by adding antivirals. The main one is Andrew. Graph Gis a Chinese. Herb used for fluid viruses Chris. Also taking anti inflammatories like curcumin which is found in to mark the other part of the protocols or vitamins like vitamin C. Six thousand Emil Day which oxygenates blood. It's an alkalis. Ing C which is easy to digest. We're giving minerals like Zine. Get his synergistic to what Dr Linda prescribed for Chris. Health. With his cough on top of this. Is homeopathy works. According to the Symptom Picture potentized. Quinine is dry for the nontoxic Barca perivian grown quinine plants. It's a natural antibiotic. It is not on the market here. Linda's made in her lab for forty years. And I took this for my line. Disease the Medicine Plaque. When all which may Dr many doctors are using it. Wait a second. Wait a second. You mean it's like it's like hydrochloric wine hydrochloric quinine white there. She's giving him an. It's an anti malarial medicine. She I thought Chris Cuomo said people should be doing that. That's that's the point here. Is the hypocrisy of it. I don't mean to mock a man and his wife were trying to find treatment for the virus. But it's it's hypocritical. You're blasting the president for talking about bleach and your wife as bathe in bleach. You're doing some sort of quinine derivatives. While you're blasting the president for a clerk wynonna Drexel chloroquine which are also in the same quinine. Derivatives families are set and then it's a universal protocol in everyone has different symptoms visit a Chinese her biologist that he wants to go on. Tv and blast the audacity of the American healthcare system and meanwhile he's using Chinese her biologist. There's just there's a level of of wire rich people so damn weird. I mean at the bottom line. I'm sorry that will offend somebody that I said that way but come on. You see rich. People's houses architecture architectural digest. And you're like nobody should live like that looks so uncomfortable. You must have a corncob up your butt and then will you go to your doctor and you get your medicine. I'm going to my Chinese biologist. Light Energy Guru in New Mexico is going to realign my shocker or something I just none of it makes any sense and get your on. Tv blasting the president for similar things and you got a wife who say that the full moon close to feverish bike. At least have some sense of proportion. Here in your outrage. If you're GONNA do that all right to the phones we go eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven. Three seven. Four to five Allan. Thank you for waiting patiently. How are Ya doing good? My met you not too long ago coming out of this mess on Riverside Duress member up like ever coming out. I was eating there and We have to take out now but any Mike long story short. I was going to go and get my point on Andrew. Cuomo not too long ago. It said that if you're pro-life he may have mixing traditional marriage and if you're a pro second amendment then you don't belong in his state he doesn't want you there and I thought to myself. Can you imagine if from Brian? Kemper some Republican Governor Conservative reversed plant and tried to say that you wouldn't belong in our state. What would the media be doing? Totally eating eating him alive The hypocrisy there and how the media covers. It goes very much like to the media region. By the way I'm I'm getting some blowback from from some friends of mine. Who are in the media today. Thanks Allen for the phone call it. Because I'm I'm saying that you know the president was not actually out there telling people to inject bleacher swallow. Uv Bulbs he was saying the doctors. We're GONNA look into it in the media copy. Try It. People are going to try it. Somebody's GonNa try it. Somebody somebody drake the somebody drink. The the the the fish tank cleaner and you know the Washington Free Beacon has an interesting story today about that that a lot of the friends of the guy or wondering if he was carol basket. And you know you know. We'RE NOT GONNA go. There is a very interesting story about the guy in Arizona who drink the the fish aquarium cleaner allegedly because the president of the United States said that clerk win a coup might Be Able to to cure this. He didn't have it and drank it and died. His wife was in Serious critical condition. She gave it to him and news. Some people are raising questions about building. He apparently was a very smart highly competent engineer. So there's a problem there by the way. I I told you I was going to do this. I told you at the beginning of the show today. I was GONNA do this all show if you need. Pp Go to first Liberty G. DOT COM. Because they got the people that got the staff and you can apply online with I. Liberty G. A. Dot Com. You'll see an apply now. Button at the top of the site Go on and get in the Queue. If you can't they can't make a guarantee they cannot guarantee it. But they'll do it. They can't have you heard about these plaques that are popping up over Atlanta I personally founded hysterical and of course they're being called racist of course they're being called racist it is a picture of Winnie the Pooh holding a bat and it says a Wuhan Plague on it and it happens some shopowner in in one of the hipster areas of Atlanta screaming racism. Because it happened on Earth Store. They don't know who we're putting these plaques up. Winnie the Pooh Chinese protestors. Chinese Chinese people Chinese protestors have been using Winnie the Pooh as an image to represent a the dictator of China. As she they use what did they they claim he looks Kinda like Winnie the Pooh and so they use Winnie the Pooh image. Someone has been going around town with Wuhan Plague or we are on the plaque in its winnie the Pooh eating a bat. Instead of a honey winnie the Pooh with his hand and honey jars of the eating a bat and they've been showing up in Atlanta now in the last three or four days. Nobody knows who's doing them there. Somebody's put them out in broad daylight. They know somebody's put them in broad daylight because one of the the restaurant tours who found it on the side of their business the adhesive was fresh somewhat of just applied it and taken off. They don't know who did it though can't figure it out but the media is screaming racist. This is racism calling at the Wuhan Plague. This is racism with the lead in about. That's racist what does a Disney character. Eating a bad have to do with race particularly when the caricature of Winnie the Pooh as president. Gee came from Chinese people or the Chinese people racist. Our American media has lost. Its mind and you know that the person who has happened to hang on let let's see if I can find this vice winnie the Pooh racism. See if I can find this article I it's just it's so silly. It is so silly That they're doing the story. Yes here it is racist Plaques Depicting Winnie the Pooh holding bat with chopsticks have begun to Atlanta. The police have no idea in the store. Owner who founded as we got so much racism with that guy in the White House. And the adhesive still wet. It happened. It's not amusing. Funny politically incorrect. Edgy your punk rock. It is super gross and racist. There's enough zita phobia ignorance being spouted from this administration. We certainly don't need street art reinforcing. This blankety blank. Oh my goodness gracious. The Chinese themselves chose this image to protest China Why is that racist for others to us by the way Eleven alive in Atlanta reporting Georgia has nearly doubled. The number of testing sites in ten days of the National Guard has ramped up their own testing sites. I have something I have the the FAC the FAQ. The frequently asked questions about the governor's new executive order to allow businesses to reopen. I have digested the governor's order. Y'All it is going to be virtually impossible for businesses to reopen under the governor's reopening order. Let me all businesses establishments. Corporations nonprofits and organizations that are subject to minimum basic operation restrictions shall implement measures which mitigate the exposure spread of Cova nineteen if they won't open water minimum basic operations the minimum necessary activities to maintain the value of business corporation. Nonprofit Corporation or organisation provide services manage inventory insure security process payroll and employee benefits or four related functions in such minimal necessary activities include remaining open to the public subject to the restrictions of the sort of the minimum necessary activities to facilitate employees volunteer speed able to work remotely from their residences or members or patrons meet able to participate remotely and instances were employees and working outdoors without regular contact with other persons such as delivery services contracts landscape businesses agricultural industry So here's what we have. Gyms FITNESS CENTERS BOWLING ALLEYS BODY. Art Studios Barbers cosmetologists hair designers nail care artists aestheticians and their respective schools massage therapists can begin engaging in minimum basic operations. This means the businesses can open to the public on a limited basic sub basis subject to restrictions shelter in place. Orders will still apply minimum basic operations our activities to maintain the value of the business provide services manage inventory in sure security process payroll. Now all of these things have to be done. It is a shell if you want to open your business in Georgia starting today and you are a gym fitness centre a Bowling Alley a body. Art Studio Barbara cosmetologist here designer a nail care artist ESTA titian or a massage therapist. You can open. But this is what you have to do. You shall screen and evaluate workers who exhibit signs of illness such as a fever over one hundred point four degrees. You shall require workers who exhibit signs of illness to not report to work you shall enhanced sanitation. You shall require handwashing or sanitation by workers. You shall provide personal protective equipment as available inappropriate. You shall prohibit gatherings of workers during work hours. You shall per permit workers to take breaks and meals outside you shall implement teleworking as possible you permit implement staggered shifts. You shall hold meetings. Virtually you shall deliver intangible services remotely. You shall discourage workers from using each other's owns you shall prohibit handshaking. You shall place. Notices that encouraged hand hygiene at the entrances you shall suspend personal identification number PADS. You shall enforce social distancing for retailers and service providers providing for alternative points of sale. Outside of the business must be done. You shall increase physical space between workers and customers. You shall provide disinfected and sanitation products for workers. You shall increase physical space between workers worksites by at least six feet now. Here's the other question here. Can't healthcare facilities conduct elective surgeries? Well Georgia healthcare facilities are better position to secure Nestor EP to presume elective surgeries given recent modeling related to surge capacity They can do so. What about places of worship were places of worship are allowed to go back to meeting but but nothing has ever prevented them from doing it. Let let me let me give you. These are the best practices for religious services places of worship and religious institutions need to tailor their guidelines to reflect specific needs resources so online call in or drive in services remained best option. Do not attend religious services if you're unfeeling if you're feeling unwell or have a fever or have had direct contact with someone who has likely to go vote. Nineteen no idea how you'd know throughout the service you must maintain at least six feet behind the person between the person in front and behind you and to each side of you. Family members are allowed to sit together masks or cloth. Coverings to mitigate the spread of the virus should be worn depending on the size of the congregation. Additional services may be necessary to achieve at least six feet between non cohabitating members of the Church Service when members arrive. They must immediately be seated when a service. Ins rose must be emptied sequentially with everyone immediately going to their vehicles no loitering for conversation. You must refrain from using items touched by multiple people unless you can sanitize after each use for example in lieu of offering plates used drop boxes. You closed nurseries. Childcare Sunday school classes or related functions prior to shelter in place keep them closed medically fragile. An elderly Georgians should shelter in place and not go to in person services and choir and choir practice should be cancelled that they will not require to be cancel but should be cancelled. The shelter in place order is still active. It expires at eleven fifty nine PM. On April thirtieth for most Georgians medically fragile and elderly. Georgians should plan to continue shelter in place until May thirteenth. The governor's office encourages everyone to follow the CDC in Georgia Department public health guidelines to prevent and spread the virus the CDC is telling people. Don't listen to the governor of Georgia. Don't do anything stay home. Now let me give you. The parameters of the governor's order again. Shelter in place is still in effect until may first restaurants and dining rooms of private. Social Clubs will be allowed to reopen on a limited basis. On April twenty-seventh subject to new restrictions theaters will be permitted to engage in minimum basic operations subject to new restrictions bars nightclubs amusement park. Ride operators live performance venues. They still got to be closed until may thirteenth. The reality is that nothing's really changing between now and and yesterday and the reality is overwhelmingly businesses or not actually going to change the reality is. You're probably not GONNA be able to go to the business you want to go to today. Because they're going to be close you know might Jim Steak'll mos- I I don't know of any gyms that are opening today. My Gym is going to stay closed until the Middle Lemay. Your gym probably is too. If you have one I could use a barbell. By the way I'm tired of the dumbbells I get enough dumbbells in my life. Washing the White House press briefings and the reporters asking questions. There are too many dumbbells out there. But you're Jim's not gonNA open by the way. The movie theaters aren't going to open. I got a text from a bowling alley that our family goes to that said that given the parameters by which the governor says they can open they can open. So who's actually going to open? Under this order. There will be some businesses that try most of them won't most restaurants won't but how will the businesses try well pretty straightforward right? Now will not today yesterday. Yesterday was against the law. You you know a lady who styles hair and she does it out of her house. Yesterday it was against the law for her to have you in her house to do it today. It is not you know where your friends today. It's not that I know people who've gotten black-market haircuts in the past week Philip. And today it's not against the law teasing teasing teasing my wife. My child here. It is is Phillips wife cut his hair. It's not really black market but still actually competent jobs on all accounts and yesterday were if they were. Let's see. This is the bizarre part if they were licensed arguably it was against the law but today it's not in the that's the point of the governor's order is there are barbers out there. There are massage therapists out. There who know their clients their clients know them. They have a relationship and yesterday was against the law for them to help. Yesterday it was against the law for them to give them massage with a haircut today. It's not what's really going to change between now and next month an even more slow spreading. I hope that's a good thing. We should be rooting for to slow down even more. It looks like it may pick up a little bit of Steam. Georgia's it's still. It's still pretty slow but we should be rooting for the governor to find a path forward I think. Now let's see have we. Do we have any updates from the Department of Health? I'm trying to find the depart. The you know the Department of Health it IT UPDATES. Its website every day at noon and six pm but lately it's been posting. Its numbers a little early. But today they're not doing that so we're still holding at twenty one thousand eight hundred eighty three cases. I got a question for you and feel free to call in if you one. Eight seven seven nine. Seven irrigates seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I'm sorry gave too fast. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. Do you know of a business. That's opening there are some head. There are some places that are in fact there here. Let me give the story to the JC. They needed a trim and couldn't wait any longer for the first time in weeks. Metro area hair salons barbershops are opening and the lines are starting. The first phase has begun at Peachtree Battle. Barber shop in buckhead customers waited in line. Shortly after seventy M I certainly want to spread it anyone so I've got a mask but I'm not really concerned if you're cutting hair or you're a waiter you haven't been working so it helps. The economy started at studio one fifty one in Dallas Georgia. The first appointments were at six thirty. Am according to the salon owner. A sign of the doors spelled out protocols including those required by the state and additional measures to keep everyone safe while receiving a shampoo. Service will place a clean folded towel over your face to cover your eyes nose mouth but despite that is not business as usual. Social distancing is in place employees. Have TO WEAR MASKS. Not ALL EMPLOYEES OPENING. Some gyms did. La Fitness decided. It wasn't the right time to open the door after people threatened to boycott them by the way but some people are is it their choice at this point. Listen if the virus was if the rate of the virus was above one we probably would need to shelter in place where the governor made his order. It looked like the virus was below one in the rate of transmission. One is the rate at which it it begins to spread and community right now after some of the revised data we are right at one point zero zero. We heard the White House say yesterday. That warm weather will slow. The growth of the virus in sunshine will kill it. And you know what it's we're having warmer weather the high tomorrow in Georgia is eighty four degrees at least in making the high tomorrow in Atlanta or in Athens is eighty one degrees in Atlanta. It's going to be seventy nine degrees tomorrow down in south Georgia in Valdosta. The high on Saturday is going to be eighty six one lead. People don't enjoy the sunshine at this point. Stay home everything except the emergency. Stay home for everything. Except the necessities Dole go out. We're not going out and again you know I. There are a lot of people who are sending me. I can see them blowing up right now. People mad at me for defending the governor for Real I. I've said all along I would have waited a week or two. I'd have absolutely waited a week or two and I would spend the next two weeks explaining why we're getting close why we're getting close what we're looking for and I would have called local officials that I would have said it. Looks like we're on the cusp. Here's what we're sticking to put it in place. Give me some input. I I think there was A. I think the governor's office should have gotten more buy in from relevant people. Any didn't do that and I think it's too there. I think it's to their detriment. They should have gotten political. Buy In for the mayor of Atlanta and some of the other mayors at the very least they should have Kathleen to me out defending the decision of the governor and there. I'm waiting for people to point out that it's notable she has come out to defend the decision because there will be people who seek to do very much like her What they've done to Dr Burleson doctor PAL chief trying to distance her from the governor. I understand why the governor did it. I don't fault governor for doing it. You and your barber probably have a better relationship than you and your spouse. I don't blame the governor for doing it but I wouldn't go out my. Barbara's not reopening yet. He says it's too soon by Jim's not opening yet they he might trainer says this too soon. My favorite local restaurant is not reopening. Yet he says it's too soon and I think that's going to be the prevailing sentiment for most people a a leader leads but you also need people to follow you. And that's another reason why I think the governor should wait. It is because when no one follows him. It looks like no one respects him as a leader. I think he should have spent a week making sure. People are on board getting buy in from local officials. 'cause you know we're not really hearing a lot of people stand up and say let's do it. A lot of the local officials who have been supportive of the governor have stood up and said let's go. Some are the precise county area that they're good the Cherokee County area that you got a lot of them. The Monroe County area Middle Georgia. They're good too but not a whole lot. It should probably been another week. But it's done now. And by the way as I discovered you go through the actual requirements when you when you go through the list. It's almost impossible for your business to open up anyway. Unless you're going to be doing temperature checks all your boys and stuff. It's almost impossible to do. But at least it does give the small businessman of fighting chance a fighting chance to say. I've white through my savings account. I can't get unemployment. I didn't get a stimulus check because I made too much money last year. So at least give me a chance now to reopen my business and see if I can do what I can do to make my customers feel comfortable coming in and I don't blame the governor of Georgia for doing that at all you know. What are the other dumb things that happened yesterday? With the the idiots the presser reporter for the Washington Post pointed out that the so the this study. Y'All again I I have to watch my language. I don't know if you knew this or not but sunshine and rubbing alcohol are disinfectants. I did you not know that. I mean honestly. Do you not have a Mama? I remember when I was little getting injured in any either having tissues antiseptic or or alcohol put on. Oh you'd have to start blowing before you put it on my kid right now It fell off his if fell off a a scooter. The other day in scraped up his leg real bad and it was it was dirty outside and had to clean the only. You could hear the cry got soundproof. Doors and I could hear him screaming rubbing alcohol Burns in an open wound in every single. One of you knows that because every single one of you had an experience where you've had to clean a wound. You've had to put disinfectant on you've had to make sure cut didn't get infected and it burns and we got reporters out there thinking that this is something new and novel in none of you have ever known that a disinfectant kills the virus. I've got I got a bottle of hand sanitizer right here. Purell hand sanitizer kills ninety nine point nine nine percent of most illness causing germs a refreshing. Gel. It says let's see kills ninety nine percent of most common germs that causes illnesses. Let's see based on a comparison. Study using one point seven five milliliters of peril advanced. It kills most viruses and bacteria will my goodness. I didn't know what had an expiration date on it. I just saw that it expires in two thousand twenty. Two any of you who have been washing with soap and water. Hand sanitizer knows disinfectants. Clear things Even if you've ever had to use bleach spray knows bleach and reporters like I declare did not know so you gotTa reporter. Yesterday they talk about ISOPROPYL. Alcohol can kill the virus in thirty seconds alcohol. Rubbing alcohol kills the virus quicker than bleach in a reporter went on and put up a screen shot of Amazon dot com of alcohol. It was two thousand five hundred dollars Amazon or something like that which she excluded for. The picture is that that was a literal barrel of alcohol. Like Ninety Gallon. Drum of alcohol was over two thousand dollars a and she was trying to imply that the president caused the price of by talking about alcohol at the White House. Press briefing. The president caused it to skyrocket you. The reporters are being malicious here. If they're not going to treat the situation fairly why can they expect others to treat them fairly? Why can Chris Cuomo Bash the president for suggesting bleach as a disinfectant? When his wife is bathing and bleach as a disinfectant. None of it makes any sense. It's all hypocrisy.

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Effectively Wild Episode 1524: Lets Read Two

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

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Effectively Wild Episode 1524: Lets Read Two

"Just not A home and good morning and welcome to episode fifteen twenty four of effectively wild with the baseball podcast on Van Graphs Dot Com brought to you by our patriotic supporters. I'm Sam Miller of ESPN. Ben Is not here at the moment later in this episode. Then we'll be talking to jared diamond about his new book swing kings which I have not read but I. I'm going to be talking to Erik Nussbaum about his book stealing home which Ben is not read. So we're doing it this way too. Great Books I assume two conversations but split up so eric. Hello Hey Sam. How's it going? It's going well you know. I mostly the reason that I wanted to have you on is just because I wanted to just rave and rave and rave about this book I know most people probably have not read your book yet. I would like to tell them about it. I would like to ask you a few things about it but mostly I just WanNa just continually make the pitch for it as a book. That people should be reading. Just think this is an amazing book. So well done congratulations on that. Thank you yeah you don't I'm the one who's raving. Don't try to buddy in here. I'll just listen. So this is the book about the history of dodger stadium in a very very simplistic way. It's it is sold as the history of dodger stadium being where it is and the neighborhoods and the communities that were there before. I was very excited for this book. Just because you wrote it and you're a great writer and I thought you were a great writer for very long time but I think I went into it with a pretty narrow expectation of what the story would actually about. I expected to learn that there had been people living in Los Angeles in the middle of the last century and the dodgers took their land so I was imagining a simple story. I was imagining something along the lines of that famous one mile. Chapter in the powerbroker where you have lots of personal details about a neighborhood it would be a worthwhile. Light shone on residents who've been made invisible and there'd be this ominous and tragic tone that I would find echoes in modern living but it would basically be a pretty simple land seizure at the heart of it and this turns out to not be simple at all the story the sequence the book and the dodgers themselves are relatively minor players in it. All the sequence that leads to the paving over of the Bolivar de la Loma and bishop communities begins with a Utopian Vision for public housing. And then it goes in so many unexpected and complicated directions that I was completely wrapped and learning something new on every page. This is not really a baseball book at all more of the action. I think takes place in front of the House. Unamerican activities committee than ever happens on baseball field and what two thirds of the book is over before anybody even mentions building a ballpark. If I'm right so it is a really complicated interesting story about Los Angeles and also about baseball and also about complicity and it is incredibly readable and I just can't hardly believe that a book. This good was written by a normal person I have met and not by like some New Yorker writer out there. So that's my there's my first rave okay you can say something now. Oh thank thank you again. That's extremely kind. Did I get anything wrong? Would you say no? I don't think you actually got a pretty right. You kept on saying how complicated it is and I guess that's true. It's pretty complicated. But I'm hoping that that's not mentioned scary way. Like don't be intimidated by by the complicated nature of the story not about systemic corruption and racism. That's right it is. It is not a technical read in any way. It's the you know like this is going to make it sound a little bit simplistic maybe but like the chapters are quite short and the sentence or quite beautiful and when we say complicated. I just mean that. Like for instance you go back to Cortez and so the history. You're bringing in threads from all sorts of different directions and it's complicated in the way that life is complicated and not in the way that a key. Emmanuel is complicated unlike manual. This book is full of words but it does also like an akiem manual. Have pictures so I'm going to give you. I have three or four compliments that I would like to do one at a time. And I'm going to have you. I think that that's going to be the threat of the conversation is I would just like to ask you about each of those things that I was really impressed by so one of the things that I was incredibly impressed by is the level of detail that you have personal detail about the people involved and anytime someone is writing a feature article for doing feature writing. The writer knows that like the key here is we need to have detail. We need to have very specific details that prove that we really dug into this and it's hard to get good detail. It's hard to get people a lot of times. The sources don't know what is going to be good detail so they don't always give you the detail that you want and they maybe don't WanNa share the detail and memories are hazy and so you end up knowing that you need like say ten great details to make this piecing but instead of getting ten great details you get ten details and like two of them are great and eight of them are kind of pointless and you. You massage those details into like metaphor and like overwrought description. So it seems like they're meaningful but in fact. A lot of those details are kind of pointless. You do not have that going on here at all. You got ten good details every time that ten good details were needed. There were ten great details. I gasped at one point. When you describe the way that Brana already got kills a chicken. The way that her method for strangling chicken was just so perfectly placed and so I was wondering this action that took place sixty seventy years ago by people who are who are no longer living and who I would have assumed in. A lot of cases wouldn't have left a lot of written documentation so when you went into this. How how did you know where to start looking? And and where did you reporting take? You was the reason that you ended up with so much detail that the sources that you did talk to were really excited by this project and were just over flowing with helpfulness or did you have to find. I mean we're we're you. Did you find this stuff in crates and boxes in libraries and things so it really depended on which part of the book for the Electric Family for particular? I was lucky in that. She has grandchildren's who were living daughter. Still Alive who had did not get to speak to but her grandchildren at least some of them and her friends and her nephews and people who live in this community with her remembered her vividly and they I mean they were incredible. They were generous enough. Speak to me and to give me a lot of their time and to share these stories. That were sort of kind of. I didn't have to do that much. There are beautiful stories. I mean hearing about how she would kill a chicken by swinging around by its head and then give the talents of the chicken to her grandkids to play with his toy. I mean as a writer. There's not much left me to do that. Just share it with the reader. I was pretty blessed in that regard but in terms of written documentation. They leave that much. You know these were people in beloved. Whoever they focused on who were not I think in the book. I call them under documented. You know they did not leave boxes and boxes of written records. They weren't famous at the time particularly. I mean they became somewhat famous because of their situation as the book explains but like it's a lot of oral history that sort of passed down from generations of family that you know kind of values. Its its roots and was generous enough to share. It share. Their stories with me was there any suspicion that a person showed up right now wanting to to write this book that you know about actions that I imagine are still somewhat raw in the family in that have been over for sixty sixty years and an in some ways just given the given the way that the dodgers dodgers stadium are now such institutions. I would imagine that maybe there would be a feeling that that no writer is going to take on those institutions that that we just take it for granted. Now that Dodger Stadium. Part of it almost feels like dodger. Stadium is is a permanent part of Los Angeles History. Only a sacred cow when when you know clearly. It isn't so. Did you have a any difficulty convincing them? That this was a story that should be told right now. Some of them were really excited to talk. Pretty much right away in some people were not you know at the family was is not an was not a single body everybody has their own opinions and I think one of the things actually tried to get across in the book was that these communities were full of people who are independent minded and people who had their own ideas about the best way to go about living in the best way to go about fighting and within the family People I spoke to their different ideas about what was right. And what was wrong whether they should or shouldn't talk to me or journalists and there's different opinions about the dodgers to some of the other characters. A lot of the people involved in our. Our politicians are businessmen and you occasionally will refer to something that you found in their papers and I have never gone looking through. Somebody's papers. What does that. What is what do papers literally. It depends They look like papers. Usually you go into an archives and there's a librarian archivist who gives you a little sheet of kind of sheet of paper and you fill out. What folders you want from this finding aid that it'll kind of list what they have and then they bring you the folder and you sit at a desk in a big room and you look through it very carefully and then if you need another folder you ask them to bring out the next folder. It's it's this very kind of arcane process. That's very manual and slow. Which I find appealing but different archives. In different libraries you know have different levels of detail to their finding AIDS. Some you know some collected papers are extremely well. Organized in particularly cared for in some are just boxes of stuff that you look through depending on the budget of the institution or the care with which the initial librarian put it all together or with which the probably dead person left their papers for posterity. It just depends but a lot of just sitting there literally dislike page by page looking through staff and do you get the feeling when you're looking at him that the person who left their papers behind has carefully cold anything that might be interesting or that might be. That might complicate their story. Like does it feel like it is a a crafted and curated document or series of documents. That will make them look good or is everything just like. I mean are there like receipts from the gas station thrown in there. And you just get the sense that like somebody went in maybe even after they died. And just put it in a box it depends. Some people are like that with liberties in the gas station. One of the people I talked about in the book is Frank Wilkinson. He's kind of a main character. He's a housing official in. La and he. His papers are full literally like receipts for hearing aid batteries and little notes for his doctor's appointments in these very trivial but strangely intimate scraps whereas like I was really fortunate in that the o'malley family allowed me to look through symbols. Romalis papers when it came to the construction of the stadium and I got the feeling and I don't know for sure that is privately. Kept is not a public resource. -sarily that those papers were pretty carefully curated. Even though to be honest those papers contained a lot is what I imagine was a lot of Walter. Amalean last thing about about this. Did you find that I mean I would think if anybody would really be against this book being written if you give them the two minute pitch of what it's about it would be the o'malley's because probably the o'malley's have have fended off? You know people who have been bringing this fight up or this you know. I don't know the history of that land to them for decades and they probably would not have expected a particularly generous reading. What happened in the fifties and sixties? Did you have to talk them into opening their papers to you? Yeah I did I mean I kind of I tried to be up front and say this book is really focused on on the family and on this community and that was my you know my ambition was to tell tell the story a little bit kind of more from that perspective and that. I also wanted to talk about the construction of the stadium and I wanted to be fair and I think the o'malley family is justifiably defensive about it because you know you said at the beginning of this that your expectation was that the story would be that the dodgers took land for people. That's really not the story. The story is a lot more complicated. A Lot were tragic than that and I think. The o'malley's are frustrated. That the kind of simple broad strokes narrative has become sort of inherited theology whereas the truth is really that a lot of the events in this story the most of the kind of action of destroying these communities took place long before the dodgers came to. La Yeah and a lot of it took place even led by people who I could imagine you writing very sympathetic books about otherwise and so that goes to the second compliment that after this book which is that it is so morally nuanced and I keep using the word complex and maybe that's a word that will scare people away so I'll just say nuance that a lot of times. You really have to pause and think about how you're going to process. The information does not read very easily as like now. I'm reading the Good Guy Chapter now. I'm reading the Bad Guy Chapter. And this is either good for the good guys or bad for the bad guys or whatever and as an example of this Spring Wilkinson is like you say he's one of the two main characters in this book and he comes into it because he was a extremely idealistic young man who had visions of this really Utopian vision of of public housing and and in a modern city and he was really really driven by his ideology and at one point. You mentioned that to his daughter. It was She she felt like she was living with her own. Atticus finch for a father. Okay so you put that is. That's been that seat has been planted and then a couple of chapters later. Once the houses of Olivetti had been trucked away some of them according to legend ended up on on movie lots and according to legend further some of them are that the houses in the film adaptation of Tequila Mockingbird. Whether that's true or not you couldn't pin down but let's assume it is and so you're reading this and you get to the you know the houses that have been taken from this community are now into Gila mockingbird. And you've you know you've already got this. Atticus finch idea about Frank Wilkinson. And so there's this immediate like oh my gosh so ironic but then you stop and you're trying to figure out like which direction is the irony is ironic because Frank Wilkinson is destroying the neighborhood. Because he's a bad guy and now the houses and up in this movie about an idealistic good guy or not. It's like really hard to tell because clearly Frank Wilkinson is I think in most ways. Somebody that you write extremely sympathetically about and one of the main people that brought the dodgers out here. Maybe the person most responsible bringing the dodgers out here from L. A.'s. Perspective is a council woman named Ross. Wyman who I think in general is there probably is a statue of Roz wyman somewhere in Los Angeles deservedly. She was a complete completely historically significant trailblazer and yet Roz. Wyman and Frank. Wilkinson are two of the. Maybe the two most responsible who I guess I guess maybe except for like the Chandler's for the communities of Volatility Alabama and Bishop no longer existing. And so anyway that is just to say that it's very morally nuance right. You're constantly trying to figure out how to assess these these characters and their actions so that seems like really a burden as a writer like it's much easier when you know who the the good people are and who the bad people are and when you can make their actions very clear and simple to the reader. Was it hard for you to not fall into kind of a clearer channels where you were like kind of funneling each of these people into a lane? Did you find it challenging in? Would you rather have written a simpler story? No I mean it was challenging but I never really considered doing that. I don't think the story I mean ultimately like on a gut level you want to tell the truth as much as you can as you kind of find it to be when you're doing your reporting research and writing a story that was like this is a good guy. This is the bad guy. Wouldn't have felt right to me ethically. It wouldn't have felt true to these people in their motivations and intentions to the best that I could you know research them and report them so I tried to write a story. That was true to each individual's life. And you know whether that was Walter. O'malley or Energy Guy Offering Wilkinson trying to figure out what made these people make these choices? And how did these choices that they all collectively made in that? Simple kind of off camera in the book You mentioned the Chandler family there. There'd be part of this. How did all all these ingredients? How did all these decisions wind up with all these tragic events and then ultimately dodger stadium like what happened? That was that was sort of a the motivator. It wasn't really to like tell a tale of good and evil Do have you found that the response to it has been in any way complicated by that? I mean is it. Have you found anybody? I guess WHO's frustrated by by that that it's not clear how to route as you're reading. This is a book that is just sort of constantly challenging you to reassess who. You're pulling foreign every chapter not yet. I mean people seem to be fair. It's only been a couple of weeks since the book came out and I don't think that many people are ready yet but I think that people have generally understood that there were a lot of big historical forces at play and that you know I think in a good novel your your characters are not all hundred percent. Good one hundred percents evil. I think they're all kind of doing their best and being true to their own personalities and. I think that I tried to write this book in a way that reflected the personalities and the motivations of the people in it Even though they were not character there real people so so far I think people have understood I also would say that I think register family and the residents of the communities are good guys in this book I think they were really wronged and I think that reading the book and seeing seem kind of what happens to these communities. It's hard not to feel a lot of sympathy and empathy for them. We're I mean at this point. It's it's it's mainly grandchildren. Who are survivors? Do they still? I think there is a loss anytime you take a neighborhood away. There's something about a neighborhood or there's something about a culture that can't ever be replicated if you break it apart and so. I think there's a sense of loss regardless of of what the answer. This next question is do. The grandchildren feel like this was injurious to their family. Long-term do they feel like well. Everything Kinda worked out. I mean I know at the end by the end of the dispute. The specifics of the dispute get boiled down to the difference between two assessment of the property value. And if you if you look at this dispute merely between seven thousand dollars and ten thousand dollars. It's not like a world changing injustice. It's it's It is an injustice but not world changing injustice so do the family members that are surviving. Do they see it as an injustice over you know the different assessments? The seven thousand dollars or do they really feel like the loss here still lingers in his something that they think about. There's not one answer right for for an entire family. I've spoken to people who feel different ways about it. I would say though that winning it down to seven thousand dollars isn't really fair looking back on it right. You're looking at what ultimately happened was despite many good intentions and some not good intentions. Was that the city and county governments in federal government really. Everybody confiscated a bunch of land ostensibly for public purpose and then sold the land to a private business and then finally kicked off some families so the private business could use the land. That's traumatic. I would say I think it was traumatic to the entire city of La. And I wouldn't write it off simply seven thousand dollars. Although had the government been more kind of flexible and understanding at the time I think a lot of problems could have been avoided with seven thousand dollars so this leads into the third compliment. I WanNa Hafer this book. Which is that. It really deftly handles issues of complicity and pulls the reader who is presumably a baseball fan into the question of complicity. Because we are of course drawing joy from this ballpark from this sport today. And we're doing that. Without necessarily having reckoned with the fact that complex society often produce injustices and that we they don't get necessarily appropriate recompense for that and so there's this one really quick chapter in particular that that I'm going to read that. I think I felt very deeply while I was reading it. So this is a chapter about Well I'm just GonNa read it chapter sixty three at the start of the nineteen fifty-nine baseball season. The family journey down to city hall which back then was still the tallest building in La and which was still visible from the hill in their backyard. Mayor Norris Poulson was hosting the dodgers for a ceremony to launch the new season a meaningless official gesture he planned to proclaim the week. Good luck to the dodgers week. But as the dodgers players descended from their charter bus and up the marble steps of City Hall Nine members of the Family and one neighbor Glenn. Walters interrupted the proceedings. Walters a tall blonde screen actress. Deep into Middle Age stood out in any crowd and especially among the family. They held aloft picket signs. We are being forced out. So the dodgers can in Mr O'malley if you want our property pay for it go back to Brooklyn o'malley pulse and put his arm around dodger manager. Walter Alston. He made a joke or to try to laugh. The whole thing off. But as the dodgers lined up on the steps for a portrait with Paulson Walters began to yell and push forward. Walters was a regal looking woman with an air of an earlier time. In the way she carried herself shoulders back she had appeared in more than fifty movies usually as an unaccredited extra she had a presence and a voice and knew how to use them according to One newspaper. Report she hugged. Manuel Noriega her longtime neighbor. This man is seventy two years old. She said her voice rising. He has worked every day of his life. And what does he get you? Take away his home. She pushed closer and closer to the team thieves. She yelled bandits. When one player who was never identified to laugh. Walters who was taller than him by a good measure turned leaned over him and called him. A PIP squeak. Finally Walters was escorted away from the scene by plainclothes police officers. She hurled a picket sign at the mayor. The protest was over City Hall. And the dodgers remain unmoved and such an interesting thing because to the dodgers players who were there. I mean I can just feel. They're awkward uncomfortable like it so much. Easier to not be confronted with the protests. Like no one. I think there is a feeling like I don't know that we all we all kind of want to just be polite and have people be polite to us and it is a challenge to be confronted with hard facts about people who who were wronged and particularly because the people who were wronged like you can't expect them to be silent about it. This is not a small thing for them. This was their whole life. This is a huge thing for them and it makes total sense that they would use every tool at their disposal to make noise about it. And to try to overturn it and yet you. While I'm reading this having I've I've had two hundred fifty pages that have made me identify with and feel sympathetic toward and feel a great sense of empathy for the families. There is still like a big part of me. That is identifying there with the dodgers being kind of like uncomfortable and not knowing whether like how I'm supposed to react and I think that's partly because of the sense of I don't know that the sense of complicity that every once in a while comes up in our sports fandom where we know that to some degree. We're all taking resources from from a community from a society for for the hobby that we have and so that is just. I don't know what to say about that but I mean I'm sure you had to think through these same things because you are a sports fan. You're not it's not like you're writing this from a position of wanting to abolish sports wanting to tear down the stadium you write from a position of really admiring the stadium and being a longtime sports fan. You've made your living writing about sports. You have not made your living writing about sports from contrarian perspective but actually writing about sports like sports writer would and so. Were you constantly having to interrogate what your feelings are about your role in this in this system and did you come away with your phantom shaken in any way or did you feel that that these things can can be reconciled? I think spoke in. Many ways was sort of the expression of my life. Long Journey of figuring out my sports fan and trying to make sense of what it is to be a sports fan and a healthy way to have a relationship sports and to sort of think deeply about sports in its place in our society. That's part of what's drama to the story for so long why. I spent years wanting to write this book and then I was writing. It turned into absolute crazy person. Who Dream about it every single night. It is complicated and I don't think there's a clean answer. Obviously I love sports. I Love Baseball. I the dodgers you know. I grew up a dodger fan in La and going to dodger games and my affinity for the dodgers in affection for dodgers stadium in particular is part of what made this so powerful for me would made me so drawn to the story. I think that we should always be critical. And I don't mean critical in the negative sense but critical in the sort of academic sense of things that we love. I think if you're gonNA love something it's good to examine it and think about it and one of those things. I Love Baseball and a lot of the baseball in. This book is sort of excavating. Why it is what it is in our society and how it became such an important sort of force in America in the middle of the century in La was so desperate to have a team and kind of getting to better understand. That was really helpful for me and kind of putting my own. Phantom into context and I also think really crucial to make this book work at all. Do you have any prescription? The coming out of this book for whether anything should be done whether I as a fan should be doing something whether the dodgers as an institution whether the city of La should be doing anything or is it enough in in your mind for people to simply give attention to this To what happened to be aware of it to incorporate it into their own sense of right and wrong and how society should work but does it. Does this call for us to do anything for anybody to do anything? Should I feel called to be doing something? I don't know if you should be called to be doing anything but I do think. The dodgers should acknowledge this in two thousand under Fox ownership. They briefly acknowledged that they had a little ceremony and they actually extended a little olive branch but it was a pretty short lived and kind of Janke expression of apology. Wait what do you mean they? They like to to the members of these communities. The elders of relevant album bishop. Some of them came to this little church near Dodger Stadium and they had a little ceremony. Kind of been apology for what happened. But I I. I don't think just on the dodgers. I think it's on the La County. I think as a society we reckon with the choices that we make and I think it's fair to say that we messed up in the fifties as a society. I mean I wasn't there I wasn't born yet neither of you but we as a society did wrong. These people and I think that government and private industry knowledge in those things would be healthy in good and a good start. I also think that we should think about what we want. Our sports teams to be in our lives and in our cities. It's really hard to overstate. How important institution like the dodgers is in L. A. and I think it's fair to ask that. These institutions which kind of pin down so much of our society are also answering to all people in our society and accessible to all of our society the TV deal is seemed to have just struck. Might be a good start. I don't know I know Roz Wyman is still alive. How many people from this booker still alive? Roughly speaking are any of them are. Is this pretty much all ancient history to the La power structure? I think it's pretty ancient history the power structure in terms of the politicians who were involved at the time Rosen and probably the last one still alive. She's still pretty active in democratic politics. Which is amazing personally. She didn't she didn't talk to me for the book but she spoken to other writers about it pretty extensively and you know. Peter o'malley is alive and he was. He was not pulling the strings but he was around watching father. And He. You know the the o'malley's have done a pretty incredible job of Generating presenting Walter Maladies Legacy The Walter Molly website is extensive and to their credit they go a lot further than dodgers in acknowledging the actual events that happened and they talk about the housing deal and the stadium and the dodgers in their tours. The stadium from what I understand. Don't they don't really mention this. They kind of policy. I think don't talk about it. I think you know you have. Some of the one of his daughter is still alive. You have some grandchildren into nieces nephews. Who were teenagers or even older at the time? Who are still alive and remember. There's people who remember it's not ancient you know it's it's a history that isn't recent but it's it's recent enough to still feel fresh to a lot of people who who lived through it all right. Well Eric Thank you very much for coming on. Thank you for for writing this book. I'm really glad that you read this book. I know that it was a book that you had on your list of things to do for like literal decades right like since you were a very young writer and that you worked on it for very long time so I would just say. I'm I'm really excited. That you get to cross it off if nothing else but I hope everybody will read it. I don't want people to be intimidated by it. It is a very readable book very enjoyable. It's an incredible history book about a just a city and there's so many joyful things and it takes so many unexpected twists. I learned that song not you you know. Obviously but the song zoot suit riot by the Brian Setzer Orchestra. I learned a lot about the actual zoot suit riot and as a Sam I believe. That's the Cherry Daddy's Jerry you're right Jerry Rubin Daddy sorry about that as a resident of La County. I was embarrassed by how little I knew about. Not that embarrassed. I'm excited at how much more I know I wanNA take. I Really WanNa take the walking tour of of of La now with you. I want you to take me out to to dodger. Stadium's parking lot and point at everything. Tell me where it was and what you know when you describe view that a photographer had I want to go to the to the hill where that view was an put all this geography in motion. After after the pandemic will do it. All right we can do it. Can you come in Tacoma now but We'd stay the all right Eric. Thank you very much. Thank you and now. Ben will be talking to jared diamond show and A. How's IT lands? Alright so I am joined now by diamond. Who is National Baseball Writer for the Wall Street Journal and is now off the author of a book? Swing kings the inside story of baseball's Homerun Revolution heard. Hey thanks for having me. Happy to congrats on the book and I think this one really kind of resonated with me because obviously I've been interested in the subject myself and I think that you and I and travis such all kind of independently got fascinated with this whole revolution in player development and coaching mechanics around the same time. And I know that Travis tonight had our own origin stories. I think Travis really got into it because he was covering Marlon Byrd when he was a beat writer for the pirates. And I kind of got into it. Because it was just so fascinated by richhill his transformations. So what was it for you that really give you the bug because you you have to really care about a subject to want to write a book about it at least to write a baseball book which is probably not going to make you mega rich and famous. Although I hope I hope so too I don't mean do a jumbotron on Travis but really it was Marlon Byrd for me too because my first year covering baseball was twenty thirteen. I was covering the mets. That was the year the mets signed bird as to minorly deal it was the most nothing signing of all time. No one thought anything of it. Of course he makes the team by the beginning of. May He's the mets cleanup hitter. He had incredible. Season gets traded to the pirates in the rest is history and. I spent all year sort of badgering her about what's going on. How are you so how you doing this? You're thirty five years old. No one thought this is possible and they wouldn't say he was very coy. I made some changes to my swing when really get into. Why or how until much later in the year? Really after he caught the Pittsburgh basically was when he finally I acknowledged that he remained a swing with an independent coach named Doug glad the first four months the season. I'm just saying what is going on. He wouldn't tell me but once he did tell me and once he told Travis and others once it got out there I just became fascinated. Especially when more stories like this started sprouting up culminating for me with with Josh Johnson. Having Bobby Tewksbury throw to him in the Homerun Derby and that sort of when I rise. Okay there's something really going on here. Yeah and it's so fascinating against to all of us the idea that these players who were already really good and got to the top of their profession and were there for years and some of their cases had a higher gear head more talent that they had not unlocked yet. Because I had always assumed that if you were going to be a big leaguer and stay there for a while you must have already extracted everything that you could out of whatever natural talent you had because it's so competitive and so difficult and yet it turned out that that wasn't the case that these veterans like bird like retail thirty five year old guys. Where all of this time seemingly not getting the most other abilities and I think the question that everyone has especially about the swing and this homerun revolution is. Why did it take so long and I think you did a good job in the book of explaining why and how the old swing the swing down and squish the bug and all of that was sort of rooted in baseball tradition. That this actually was a smart way to swing the bat in the early days of baseball when the Paul was dead and you wanted to hit the ball on the ground because you could get on base more reliably that way. So why do you think it took so long? I mean this is decades decades even going back to Ted Williams explaining what the optimal sewing was. Why did it take so long for these ideas to really be embraced? Thought all uh you mentioned about some of the early early days of baseball really fascinated me. This idea that people were taught to swing down because it actually was beneficial to swing down in the early twentieth century late Nineteenth Century. Because the ball wasn't made to fly and there were no fences or if there were they were you know a ten million feet away and players didn't even wear gloves or they had really rudimentary gloves so died in no. I knew there was no gloves what I didn't know when I first started doing. The book was the all time records for errors in a season in major league baseball. All the first you know twenty seasons of Major League Baseball Existence. Which did I just had never thought of in. Didn't know so that was. That's a part of it that the swing was always taught to be this way and it just sort of continued on and on and beyond that though what really struck me and what. I really learned during the book is What the criteria was to be a coach in Major League Baseball for most of baseball history was very shockingly simple it was basically you played. Major League Baseball and your manager and your friends with the manager. Basically that was it. If you fit those two qualification you could be a coach. So what happened was there was just this. Endless cycle of coaches teaching would their coach taught before them who was teaching would they taught before them and use trace it all the way. Back to the beginning of baseball there was just no room for innovation of Justice. Endless Cycle of sort of uninspired coaching. That was passed on through generations and generations in took people as far away from the epicenter of professional baseball. Say maybe there's a better way maybe the answer to why do we do? This shouldn't be because it's always been that way. Yeah and a lot of people have asked me after the. Mvp machine came out. Why did it happen now? Or why is it happening more quickly than the sort of first sabermetrics revolution at least as we portrayed it in our book we described this as sort of the sequel to that a another phase of the sabermetrics revolution? Where I it was about finding good players who are already out there whose contributions were going unrecognised and then this next phase was sort of about getting the most out of players making players better which was not something that moneyball was really concerned about and so the question is well the seems to be adopted faster than that you know that was decades and decades of Bill James Writing in obscurity and others doing studies and teams not really paying any attention or actively sneering at that stuff whereas now I think this is happening a little more quickly and maybe that's partly because the technology arrived at the right time to measure this stuff but also I think it was the teams. Were just sort of ready to give these guys chance. And you talk about Craig. Walbrook in your book. Who's maybe the most prominent character and he sort of got an audition with a team but the team? The White Sox in his case just wasn't ready yet. So I think at least from my perspective you kind of had to have people running these teams who were outsiders themselves who were then willing to give outsiders shot at actually instructing players because previously there'd been this divide between the front office and the field and it was like well. You can't actually tell. What the coaches what to do or the manager what to do this as their area that they get to control but once you started getting some non former players running teams. It seems like maybe that was the key where they said. Well I'm an outsider and I had something to add here so maybe Craig Quilt. Exactly you. I think you really just hit it just there. Which is money ball was all about bring all of album? Big Part of it was bringing some of these outsiders into the fold end of front offices and suddenly those people who were once. Outsiders are far more open to bring in outside of their own than their predecessors. If you're if you're Andrew Friedman or or Europe Billy bean or your any of these one time outsider. Gm types. Of course. You're more open to people like yourself. People that would be have considered unconventional hires. Five six seven years ago so. I'm not surprised that those people are now saying I was a weird higher and this is now the mainstream. There's probably a better way to hire people under US as well. Yeah and that's really opened up the possibilities. Where coaches without high level playing careers have been hired. Women Have Been Hired to coaching positions that they previously had occupied because there was this experience based barrier for entry people who put stuff out on social media or on various websites and showed that they knew what they were talking about. Got Gigs granted. Not every outsider does know what they're talking about outsiders who were just as clueless as some of the coaches. We're preaching counterproductive practices. Were but on the whole. It's better to evaluate candidates based on whether they can teach and not how well they could play. So how do you explain? The players who did hit for power and did have fly ball oriented swings during the years when that was not really the standard instruction in professional baseball where these players just sort of naturally inclined to do that and they were good enough that no one messed with them or were there people who weren't really instructing the sub optimal mechanics. And you could kind of get away with that approach I do think that great hitters or come out of the womb. Great like no one ever taught Mike Trout to swing the way he swings Mike. Trout picked up a baseball bat when he was two years older. Five years old and his body organized itself in such a way to hit the ball as far as possible. Every every child knows that he wanted the balls. Far as you possibly can not everybody's body knows how to organize itself in a way to allow them to do that. And great hitters. Have that no one ever teach. Alex Rodriguez Albert pools. How to swing a bat? In fact you could use here that by listening to them talk. I think anyone that's heard On Sunday night baseball or any of these guys they say why Alex is said. I think I tried to sit down and try to hit the top of the ball. Then you actually watch what he did and he's not doing that at all and that's when you realize he's only he's saying that in reverse he's saying he does that he was always told. That's what you should do to have a good swing. Although in reality his body knows that's not the right thing to do and he's swinging up and hitting the bottom of the ball hitting the ball in the air so I think they're just serve this natural selection to were for the most part great hitters. Did it right? And then there's probably throughout history tons of guys jd Martinez who had enough athletic ability natural ability to make the major league sort of get by on sheer force of will. Because that's how guys like Martinez got the major leagues doing what they were doing. Their swings were sub optimal. His swing was mechanically sort of laud but he had so much natural. Athleticism in willpower. Answer of drive that he was able to will himself to the major leagues. I'm sure there's other guys. Throughout history who with a little bit different instruction or more optimize swing mechanic could have been even better players than they ended up becoming. Yeah and I thought one of the most interesting aspects of the book was when you spoke to a movement expert essentially about why. It's so difficult why it's challenging to change your mechanics and guess it makes sense to anyone. You know you build up this muscle memory and by the time a player gets to the big leagues to dramatically reinvent himself. At that point it's challenging. We all can experience that in commiserate with that based on whatever physical activities we perform. But there's really a difference between say a a slight minor adjustment to his swing and one of the more radical reinventions that can just mean that an entirely different part of your brain has to get activated and that can make orders of magnitude more difficult absolutely but what's amazing about. Pro Athletes is their bodies are basically designed to be able to make those changes faster than for someone like you or someone like me or a normal person if you have. That's where your genetics really comes into. Not You can't just teach somebody to be a major league hitter. Trust ME I. I tried while riding. Book didn't quite work. You need to be born with some natural lettuces. You have that you're going to be much more easily able to make the changes you need More easily force your body to learn new tricks as it were Than for a normal person so it really is a combination of techniques. And you just gotTa have it like. That's the that's sort of a frustrating thing about it was frustrating for me. This idea that you have the perfect swing mechanics and still not be a great hitter. Because it sort of is a combination of art and science and not. Can't be everybody but if you have that ability to have the body you have the hand eye coordination the reflexes with technique. You go from being sort of a fringe player to a star so for the players who haven't successfully adopted this new mold of swing and granted. It's not a one size. Fits all thing. There may be some principles that a best swing hasn't common for all players but the exact angle that you should be shooting for differs based on your attributes as a player but for those who have may be tried to reinvent their swing and have failed or haven't tried when they should. What do you think is the biggest obstacle is a mental thing is that they just don't have the mindset that they are really willing to invest in the changes at that they don't click with a specific coach? What are the real hurdles that have to be cleared? A few have come up or had come up in my reporting talking to people one one big one is just trying to make a change but not fully committing to it or having this sort of doubt in the back of your mind or fear that it's not going to work not truly truly truly committing to at that is certainly something that happens but the other thing that I've seen happen a lot talking to people about it. Is people trying to go about changing their swings but not necessarily a quite knowing how to do it and I think some of the tools and technologies that we associate with this revolution. It's sort of a double edged sword. The talk about launch angle specifically. I think to a lot of folks. This book is like the Launch Angle Book. I don't personally think of it that way. I think launch angle this or advent of it in the emphasis on it has worked against some players. There's definitely some players out there major league players that have heard while I need to improve my launch angle. So the way they go about doing that is basically just sort of swinging up or making the goal to improve their lawn jingle. Well no good hitting coach. Whatever keeps that in fact the hitting coach is I write about the book sort of are more or less against launch angle as a teaching tool at all their attitude is that launch angle is a measurement. It is the result. It's not what you're chasing after. It's not what you're seeking if you swing right if you are taught to swing the right way it will result in hard. Hit Balls with the Right Launch Angle? That's what you should be chasing that right swing but if you're just going out there wanting to improve your launching that's easy just swing straight up and I think we all think of some players. Perhaps that have tried to change their swings. And it's failed and it's I think for many. That's a big part of it right. Yeah we both had the experience of hitting with Doug Ladda while we were working on her books and we both also talked more tech oriented instructors who did have a bunch of data and gadgets and everything but when I hit with Doug there was nothing. There is no hit tracks machine. There is nothing measuring my exit. Velocity or anything I was Kinda wondering well am I actually getting better? Don't you want to measure me to to see them getting better but he could just kinda teller? He wasn't really aiming to up my exit philosophy by X. Miles per hour or something. It was more about. Well let's go back to the first principles of what makes an effective swing and let's mold you in that direction. And the data you know if you were to gather the data that data would reflect that. But we're not really gonNA use it as a teaching tools necessarily whereas other coaches will and you know other batting cages will have that stuff in there so you can hit in real time and get that real time feedback so even though. I guess this new model of swing is more in line with the data. The swing kings themselves kind of differ in the extent to which they're actually relying on that or or bring it into the cage with them. All you need technology in the use of it is only as good as the person who's sort of utilizing it. You still need somebody who knows how to use this technology in a way that's beneficial and just hooking somebody up to a hit track machine them saying go. I mean there's value to that there's the theories of education and teaching that says okay you put someone in a cage with hit tracks and say your goals it hit ninety miles an hour exit velocity organizer. Roddy to do that. That's sort of one approach but I think a better way is to use these tools to inform but you still need someone to sort of point you in the right direction and show you how to achieve your goals while using the technology. I don't think I don't think I could be hooked up to a hit track machine and I couldn't become a better hitter without you. Know more instruction from there so it's impossible to talk about the homerun revolution without talking about the ball and there have been a couple of LP commission scientific studies of the role that the ball has played in home run rates and I think the first MLB commission study basically said yet all the ball. It's nothing else. And then the more recent study said. Well it's maybe about sixty percent the ball and everything else is maybe mechanics related. So how do you kind of balance those things or give weight to each when it comes to the home runs that we've seen why was thrilled in December when that report came out? That's for sure one because the book was pretty much done at that point and the ball was a real issue or not issue but it was a real factor this idea that we know the balls behaving differently and does that invalidate the work that some of these players made their swings and is it truly just a product of the ball and the ball were to change. Would they all just lose their ability so when those scientists came out in attributed forty percent of the rise in home runs between nineteen to what they described as change in launch? Behavior was their fancy. Way of saying swinging differently. That was encouraging to me. I think they go hand-in-hand right. The balls are cutting through the air sort of like a hot knife through butter. The balls are flying. If you get the ball near that only incentivizes layers. Hit the ball in the air even more so it surprise me that hitters. Okay the balls. Hot The ball in the air. It's going to fly while maybe we should be changing our swings to hit the ball in the air more. The reality is hitting the ball in the air for almost all baseball history. Outside of those very early days has always been a better approach than hitting the ball on the ground. I mean I sort of cited this statistic a bunch but since twenty fifteen major league hitters hit two forty seven to sixty nine slugging percentage on balls on the ground balls in the air. It's four zero six batting average in seven. Eighty seven slugging percentage. Those are such enormous differences. That I I I just don't buy that. The only explanation for why hitting the ball mayor is better than the ground is the ball. Yeah and it is helpful to have that data I mean again. It seems like it should be so intuitive and it was to Ted Williams and the way he explained it at least now to us seems very intuitive. And You wonder. Why didn't anyone thinks this? But of course they didn't have those numbers they didn't have the well. Here's how batters hit if you break it down by Stat Castle on angle or even by ground. Baller fly ball or something so just to have that. It's kind of an argument and dirty. No right there when you can just show those numbers that weren't available to previous generation of players and coaches and say well. This is just what leads to the best outcome. There's really no arguing with that. Exactly it is in arguable. That hitting the ball in the air leads to better resulting the ball ground and Ted Williams knew it. And that's what so amazing in one thousand nine hundred seventy Ted Williams. Wrote the scientists hitting Essentially the Bible by the arguably the greatest hitter of all time saying you've probably heard that the ideal swing with down or level but I am telling you I'm here to tell you the ideal swing up what he described as a ten degree angle up. I have no idea how Ted Williams determined to ten degrees without any technology to back it up but that said Williams for you and people strangely sort of dismissed it and that was one of the craziest things to me because in what other industry do people here the greatest ever say something and go well. That might work for you. But I'm going to model myself after this more average practitioner of this craft. It makes no sense. That was the attitude for a long time while you're Ted Williams. You're free you're superhuman. You have crazy vision and you have this new of that. That may work for you but that would never work for John. Smith over here is more normal person. I think we now know that the crazy way of thinking and it sounds crazy to say. That really was the logic for a long time. Yeah and to go back to the ball for a moment. Some of the real notable trailblazers here that are parts of both of our books. You know the the Donaldson's in the Turner's and the JD Martinez. Those guys embarked on their reinventions before the Paul became what it is now and they really transform themselves as players before the home run rate really took off which does lend some credence the idea that even if the ball does go back to normal and even if it's a little less advantageous to hit the ball in the air they're still something to be gained there but I am curious because you wrote about this for the Wall Street Journal last month. Do you think that we will get an automated Pahala? A more tightly controlled baseball at some point in the future because we've had this incredible fluctuations from year to year. It's really undermined. Mlb credibility in a lot of ways and yet there is this weight of tradition behind the hint stitch ball. I really don't think we're going to see it anytime soon. I don't for my from the people I talked to. In being around Major League baseball their attitude is really against any sort of synthetic ball using anything but natural materials the same leather and rubber yarn that they've used forever and I understand. Why sort of really do see it both ways. I'm sure there's GonNa be a group of fans there that they will. You have the ability with technology to make a synthetic ball. That could behave exactly as you want it to. I mean that's how it is in golf. There's it's golf balls or may have synthetic materials for the most part and they have to fit within very narrow specs and they make the balls to do. They want them to do baseball. Could do that but it would be. A different ball. Wouldn't feel the same similar probably but wouldn't feel exactly the same. It would look similar but not exactly. The same certainly wouldn't have that of emotional attachment people have to the ball now the way it smells the way. It sort of feels coming out of the box. That would be different. And I think Major League baseball views that is valuable and valuable. Enough to make it worth to have some fluctuation on the ball. I'm sure they would prefer to have it not be quite as insane as it's been the last few years I know. They're actively working to try to figure that out. But I don't really see any time soon. Them going machine made synthetic ball and there is live with the fluctuations until them. Yeah well as we both covered. Golf has kind of been ahead of baseball when it comes to technology in some of the principles of the swing so. I suppose it's possible that golf is just ahead of baseball in that respect too and that baseball will catch up. But there's so much tradition behind the hint stitch ballpit. I just don't know how soon that could possibly happen. But I am. Curious about some of these really dramatic reinvention stories. That kind of inevitably are part of both of our books. Because you can't tell the story of this era without touching on the JD Martinez and the marlins birds in the Justin Turner's but those are really helpful. For storytellers like us. You know from a narrative sense. They make very compelling tales. But do you think that we will continue to see those dramatic mid career or even late career reinventions because as the principles become pervasive and widely adopted. Maybe players won't even get to that point in their career with the bad mechanics quote unquote and they'll just have the good mechanics to begin with and we won't actually see anyone making these dramatic late career changes. It's going to be harder I think. But that's in part because team to finally on smarter with rain a mechanics and to who they're hiring to do the job look. Look how many people that I wrote about my book. I'm sure you wrote about in your book. He has well for sure. Who are independent coaches three years ago or four years ago and are now working in Major League Baseball or Minor League Baseball? These sort of innovators who were on the fringes of the industry are no longer on the fringes. They're increasingly becoming in the mainstream. That's why it seems like every day someone else from Dr Line is being hired by a big league team or that independent instructor. That fixed player is now the hitting coordinator for Team Y. That's that's what it's going to be to the point where these sorts of hires which are still news worthy because they're still somewhat unusual will cease to be they'll just be the mainstream and there's going to be this all around professional baseball coaches with seemingly unusual backgrounds those who didn't play those that are serve rooted in bio mechanics and technology and things of that nature. It's good though you don't necessarily these stories are fun. They're make for great stories but they're not optimal from a player development standpoint players are teams. Rather WanNa get to the point where they're getting the most out of their players before they get bad. Need TO BE FIXED. But there's always gonNA be players that rise from obscurity. I hope they're always will be but I don't know if you're gonNA see as many Jd Martinez is let's go to a warehouse in the middle of La and remake your swing from scratch with some random guy that no one's ever heard of. I think that's going to be a lot more unusual yet. Do you think there is a future for the independent facilities the unattached swing king? Because you know it is incredible as you said the pace at which these outsiders have become and every time we had a book deadline it was like checking to make sure that all of our sources had not gotten hired by team since we spoke to them because so many of them had and yet I have talked to some of them who say well I want to be independent. I want to be able to work with anyone not just one teams hitters and I want my ideas to be public to a certain extent. Maybe at don't WanNa be in house and you know maybe their players who'd rather work with someone who's outside the team but we have seen so many brought into the fold and there's kind of been this independent brain drain going into organized baseball. So right now we see like Dr Line. For instance a lot of people have been hired by teams but then there are some people like oh chart like Bodey who have kind of found this middle ground at least right now where they kind of are still affiliated with Dr Line but also working with a team. Which is you know. Maybe presents some kind of odd issues from time to time. So what do you think the future is of the Independent Facility or instructor? I do think there's always going to be people that believe that it's somehow conflict the work for teams. They don't want to be caught up in the bureaucracy that comes with working for professional organization where there's so many layers of coaching. And you really don't have the time or the opportunity to serve work one on one with players the way you do independent coach you really. Don't get that and you go inside the system. Suddenly you're responsible you. Let's say you're hitting two responsible for the whole team. You're talking about thirteen fourteen haters. You have to monitor all of them in the job of a hitting coach in Major League Baseball or even Minor League Baseball Story Different Than Independent coach. It's really as much about mechanics as much as about the mental side of hitting and cheerleading and making sure players mentally physically prepared to go out and do their jobs because talking about a full season five six months ago. There really isn't time in the middle of that season. They were going to remake your swing. There just isn't you're just trying to survive trying to play every single day. It's been the off season where these guys could go to. These independent coaches. Say It just GonNa be you and me and we're going to really focus on mechanics. Nothing else we're going to really focus on the swing and I think there's always going to be people out there who say that's what I do. I fixed swings. I don't WanNa get in the business of trying to monitor this or mental state of thirteen hitters. I just want guys that want to work with me and I wanNA work with them. We could just get really intensive increasingly going to be biotic relationship between the inside and the outside were teams recognized with their limitations and that. Hey we might not really have the bandwidth of the resources to devote to say okay. We're just going to work with you. Exclusively all offseason and fixer swing. We're GONNA send you to sort of an approved outside guy than we have. Vetted and decide knows what he's talking about. We're GONNA send you there in the Austin to work on your swing and that's it and I think you're starting to get there. Where teams are now referring a hitter the dugout or referring hitters to cry Walbrook as opposed to players has sneak off on their own and hope they don't get caught. What did you learn about? What kind of background leads one to become an innovative or effective teacher? 'cause that's something you know you talk about it with athletes themselves as it better to specialize in one sport or to play a bunch of sports and then pick one that you're well suited for and maybe it's sort of the same with coaches where not that. You can't be a good coach if you've only ever been a a baseball player or coach but I think in both of our stories there are some characters who really had unusual background sin had non baseball training an interest. That led to sort of this multidisciplinary approach where they were able to synthesize things. And somehow come up with them baseball insights out of it. Many of them did and many of the people that I write about in the book are those who a has a varied interests that extend beyond baseball Craig Wong. Brock is probably the main character of the book or at least one of them. He has one of the most fascinating backstories of any person. I've ever met in any field in my life. The Guy Quits baseball before he plays a single game of college. Ball San Diego state becomes a full-time surfer and self-described pot. Smoking hippy and talking to him is just an exercise in trying to keep up his. He's talking about Samurais and then he's talking about Chinese painters from the thirteen hundred and then he's talking about folk music from the sixties and then he's talking about some book read and then he's talking about this and that and somehow it all relates back to hitting and sometimes it's hard for me to even follow how it relates back in the swing of somehow. It always does so. I think that sort of creative sort of varied interests set helps a lot. The other thing that these guys all seem to have in common is this curiosity to understand why they sailed. Most people play baseball on. Almost all of them fail and most of them to say well. I wasn't good enough. And they move on with their lives. That's what I did it's renewed. That's what almost everyone does. That wasn't enough for these people. People Dug Ladda people like Craig Walbrook. They failed and they wanted to understand why they became obsessed with knowing what they did wrong. That's a really powerful quest when you devote your life to understanding why you didn't succeed to make sure others don't not succeed. You could really accomplish a lot. I think that was very common thread between all these guys that I need to know what didn't work for me. I don't have that. I never had that drive with baseball. I just stopped playing when I was eighteen. Realized I wasn't all that good. That was pretty much. It not the case for guys like Doug Ladda. Yeah in a way that makes Ted Williams even more amazing to me. Because he didn't fail rated he'd enough to figure out why it wasn't working for him. It was working for him. He was the best and you know maybe he was the best partly because he had this intellectual curiosity but he probably didn't have to be quite as scientific as he was to be a great baseball player and yet he still had that drive. So that sort of inspired to another thing that I wanted to ask about is kind of the attitudes in the interpersonal skills that these different figures have because obviously in the MVP machine there are guys like. Trevor Bauer in. Kyle Bodey and in your book. Richard Chink. Who are very abrasive and really piss people off and kind of take this. Us versus them attitude to a certain extent and we're trying to tear down the traditions and we have to you know lob bombs at convention but then there are other figures whether it's Wallin Brock or Brian Bannister in my book or Doug. Ladda in both of our books who don't really seem to have that flame burning inside them. That makes them really angry about being snubbed. For years and WANNA sort of lash out. So why do you think there is that difference and do you think one styler another has been more effective overall? Bring Richard Jank. He's Richard Chang's an interesting character. A He is a independent hitting coach slash professional Internet troll. I think we'd be Beth way to describe him. And through a very shocking turn of events in his life had the opportunity to work with Aaron Judge Inbetween twenty sixteen in two thousand seventeen and at least in the mind of Aaron Judge had an enormous effect on making him a better hitter. Aaron Judge Richard's work to why he had that huge breakout in two thousand seventeen. But Richard. Chang is also roundly despised in the baseball community If anyone goes to find on twitter you'll just see survey collection of sort of bullying and increasingly nasty things. He is very abrasive and he's hated but Aaron Judge also thinks he helped are. How do you reconcile that It was one of the big struggles. The book was figuring out how to present this guy. Look Richard Shank does not work in professional baseball and he's never going to work in professional baseball because no team would ever have someone like that on their staff why he is the way he is so we're talking about what's better approach. I'll never gonNA really believe that being like Richard Shank per Is Sort of the the right approach? Now he says that his attitude online is just his filter and it's how he determines which players really serious about working with him and I also should say that Richard Shank that if you meet him in real life which I have quite a few times. He's nothing like he is on the Internet. And that makes it all the more appaling. So I don't really advise being a professional Internet troll. I don't really think it's the best way to teach the teach anything but who who am I to judge. He taught Aaron judge so I wonder how much you wrestled with the structure of your story because that was something that Travis. A night spent so much time considering. How do you tell the story? Because it's not like moneyball. For instance the story of one team or one executive or even one season or something. It's really spread out there. All these different figures who were sort of doing things maybe independently or related but at different times and different seasons and different players and that can be jarring potentially for a reader. If you don't do it right. And then there's the history aspect too and jumping back and forth in time. So how did you figure out how to do that? And did you go through Multiple structures before you settled on this one. It was the hardest thing of writing the buck. Yeah was figuring that out and I don't know if this was the right approach or not but for me what it was was I I for most of the process. I literally didn't even consider the structure. Actually we're going to get into the writing process. What I I did once. I narrow down who I wanted to write about. I knew there is primarily four coaches each of whom have one primary clients that I wanted to work once. I figured that out I said Okay for now. Let's just take these four separate stories? I'm GonNa tell the stories of these four people in their in their pupils. These eight human beings. Nanga tell their stories separately. I add separate sort of documents where I said this is my Craig Walbrook story and this is my Doug Laddis story and this is my Richard Shanks during a road. It like. It was a big magazine story. Essentially however many thousands of words it took the right at once. I had all four of them. Then it was okay now to find a way to massage these together. Where do they flow? Fortunately I had a very good editor William Morrow that was able to sort of help me a little bit with it and figuring out where to splice it together. It felt a little bit at times like sort of building Frankenstein's monster where you're taking like an eyeball from here and hair from here and uneven here. But I I hope it worked out in the end. I hope it's not too confusing. I was like my big fear. Will people be able to follow all these different stories at the same time? Yeah outlining it worked for me but I went through that same experience so I was probably more sympathetic than the average person but Another thing that I think we both dealt with was trying to tell the stories of people are teams who have been kind of discredited for various reasons. Whether fairly or not so in our case for instance. The Astros have been player-development innovators when it comes to teams and adopting implementing some of these ideas not as an independent facility but as an actual NLP ORGANIZATION. They are also cheaters in for sure. And you know in the case of your book you wrote about Marlon Byrd and Chris Cabello and both of them were people who reinvented their swings and had much improved results but then also tested positive for PD's and in birds case multiple times and you know the Astros we know cheated the players we can never really know for sure and they've maintained their innocence but a lot of people look at the Astros and say well. They're good because they cheated and a lot of people look at Burton Allen saved. They're good because they were taking. Pete is an it can be both you know you can be innovative. You can be better. And also cheaters had but that's a kind of a hard thing to relate or convince people of so. How did you approach that? You know it was tough. It was really tough to try to navigate that recognize. There's always going to be people that are not gonNA take say Chris. Caldelas changes seriously because of the fact that he tested positive for P. D.'s. And there's no way around it. It's just a fact he did you kind of have to just own it and figure out how to handle it so. I thought of it this way. There's a couple of things one like anyone. That's seen Chris. Callapollo hit with the Blue Jays and before the Blue Jays could say with their own naked. Is clearly this guy. Did something different? His swing was different. He made big changes. There's absolutely no question that he made changes. So that is just a fact so you could always point that out and say these are the changes that he made because you could see them. The other issue becomes the more complicated one of well did he really take. Pd's or not and that's a question. I can't answer. I spent a lot of time with Chris. Collin Bello and he is told me in great detail his story about that positive tests and why it happened and everything that's associated with it and I think all I could do as a writer in his writing. The story is putting it all out there and leaving it to readers to decide what they think. Do they believed him or not? Only really matters if I believe whether Chris Kalibbala took. Pd's or not or whether Marlon Byrd took these or not. I could say they both have interesting stories when you talk to them about it. You just try to presented sympathetically as you can and see if in let people decide what they want to believe about it and additionally there's also from a narrative perspective does serve a little bit of like drama to the story where it does plant that seed of doubt in people's minds. What Chris Kalla Bello would happen to him as real what happened to Merlin Bird Israel but then you know Justin Turner also worked with said. He hasn't tested positive for P. D.'s. And he had incredible success because of Marlin bird like these people despite their flaws or shortcomings are the things that they did or didn't do they still are part of the story. They added to sort of the hidden conversation. I think that's valuable no matter what the truth is right. So something else we both dealt with was the question of whether optimal baseball is better baseball from an entertainment perspective and of course a lot of people think that throughout comes baseball's less entertaining. There's fewer policy and play. There's less defensive action there's less based running etc and some people like homers and some people. Don't but I think the question that I have there is a perception that the quote unquote launch. Angle swing is geared toward home runs but also strikeouts that. You can't have one with the other and I wonder to what extent you think that's true because clearly there are some players who may be go toward more of a an uppercut swing and there is a tradeoff there where it's less contact but perhaps better contact when they do make contact but does that have to be the case because you know this upward swing is really just about meeting the ball on the trajectory that it's coming in and you're trying to keep the bat in zone for a longer period of time. Which in theory could help you in contact as well as power. So is there a trade off there? Does there have to be or can you have both things? I completely disagree with this perception that the rise in strikeouts baseball's a product of batters trying to swing for the fences or proton quote launch angle swings. There's a few reasons. Why sort of anecdotally look guys who change their swings. Domhnall strike out a ton. Let's look at Justin Turner. Just as an example. He has made incredible. Changes to a swing has had incredible. Success Hits power hits average in twenty seventeen thousand five hundred forty three plate appearances strikeout fifty six times in two thousand eighteen. He struck out fifty. Four Times to Daniel Murphy comes to mind as well as a guy that made major changes to his swing. Hits FOR POWER HAS A ton of extra-base hits. Opiates as well over nine. Hundred for a couple of years striking out in. Twenty Sixteen Fifty Seven Times in Twenty eight hundred forty times in limited action. It doesn't have to be one of the other. I think people like saying it does because they want to attribute something for the rise in strikeout. I don't think people really want to attribute what I think. Is the real reason for the rise in strike outs baseball? Which to me has much more to do with pitching dance with hitting wedding. People have to understand and don't quite appreciate enough is there is a reason why hitters across baseball view. The home run as necessary for survival. It's because pitching now is so ridiculously. Good guys throw so hard. The slider seemed to defy the laws of physics. You never face the tired pitcher because we have much better bullpen optimization. Now every picture that you face in the game today is essentially optimize to get you and you alone out. And then add in the fact that because defensive positioning in advances in that realm. It's even harder to find grass when you put the ball in play. Therefore the idea of stringing together three hits for hits or more in an innings score runs as possible and theory. But it's really really hard with pitching this good. The best way to score is a do it with one swing. And that's why you see batters trying to hit more home runs but because of that quality of pitching yeah there's gotta be strikeouts. It really goes both ways. Do I think that there's maybe too many strikeouts in the game right now for it to be as aesthetically pleasing as it could be. Maybe I think there's a real valid argument there but I also know that the old way of thinking which is strike outs were shameful. And they were to be avoided at all costs. That also was wrong was clearly I mean? He watched older games from the seventies or earlier. Yeah the game. Move faster part because guys were swinging at everything because the goal is just to put the ball in play clearly a better offensive approach is that it's okay to take a striker two or K- to strike out and wait for pitch. You could drive. There's probably a middle ground here between lifts swing and everything and hit the ball in play and hit ground balls the shortstop every time in let's strike out ten billion times a season. There's probably somewhere in between but I I just fundamentally disagree with the idea that hitters and their approach or responsible for what's happened with all the strike outs in baseball. Yeah I agree that it's definitely not the bulk of it that yes maybe if you're not trying to make contact at all costs than you are occasionally accepting a strikeout where you wouldn't have otherwise because you are trying to hit the ball hard but I agree that that most of it is pitching. It's just very hard to hit pitchers these days. There has been some evidence. I've seen some people write about the fact that the correlation between STRIKEOUT RATE OVERALL OFFENSIVE PRODUCTION. Which for years sort of supported the idea that more strikeouts tended to go hand-in-hand with better production. Now that seems to have gone away a little bit maybe because putting the ball in play now that the ball is travelling the way it is is more advantageous so there doesn't seem to be as clearer relationship there and maybe that puts a little more emphasis on contact for hitters. Even though for pitchers there is still really a premium on avoiding contact. And there's this case of misaligned incentives were players do what works for them and makes them more money and teams look for players and pay players. Who Do the things that helped them win? More Games and they're all acting rationally but neither of them may be acting in the best interest of baseball fans so that will continue to drive this which you know if the ball does go back to what it used to be and we see offense crater. I think it will be not really because of the mechanics or because of these new swing ideas just more because it's really hard to hit and so if the ball is not traveling anymore when you do hit it then you're GonNa see a real suppression in offense and that kind of leads into one of my last questions here. Which is something that I get asked a lot. And maybe you've been asked a lot which is who has the upper hand in the next five years or ten years pick your timeframe do hitters or pitchers have more to gain because pitching has been ahead of hitting when it comes to data and technology and some of these new innovations. So does that mean that hitting now has a chance to catch up and equalize things a little or will there be another revolution bio mechanics. Or whatever that pitchers will be at the forefront of We already see pitchers designing brand new pitches that never existed before and all this incredible technology designed to get batters out. The reality is picturing has had been so far ahead of hitters for so long it wasn't even close. How far ahead pitching was and yes hitting has started to close that gap but the gap is still enormous pitchers to me still have such an enormous advantage and frankly they should and pitching always had an advantage over hitting but I still think there's room for that gap to close. Perhaps I don't think hitting its peak of yet but I am sure that very quickly pitching to take another step forward. That's sort of what the history of baseball is right. Pitching always has an advantage. And sometimes I'd gap closes a little bit but then inevitably it's widens again as pitching just gets better. I think that's what's been the trajectory of baseball forever. And I'm not sure that's ever really GonNa Change. All right so maybe my last question then is if there's a big league hitter multiple big league hitters pastor present who you wish had seen a swing king and never did or hasn't but someone who maybe had the raw talent or power but just never translated it or fully harnessed it because they had some suboptimal swing mechanic or they were hitting the ball into the ground that you just kind of wonder what if what might have been or what might still be though. This is good surprise. A lot of people I think surprise me. I asked this question to virtually every hitting coach. I met the question I asked was. What hitter in Major League Baseball now? Do you believe that you can really help that? You could help the most of you got your hands on this guy. We'd see major improvements and I expected to hear some pretty obscure names. Guys that would have you know would maybe not have even heard of or would have thought very low of Turner or JD. Martinez never gone to see while unbrotherly. Actually not the answer. I heard I would say I asked this question to a lot of people. No joke about ninety percent of these people name the same player and that was June Carlos. Stanton which completely blew my mind because he had fifty nine home runs in the season. Two thousand seventeen I asked. How could that be? He's so good and they said look swing visit look like a natural swing that he's getting the most out of his physical gifts and frankly. I'm not qualified to writing Kenny. A hitting man. I am not an expert on the swing by any means and how it works but yeah you watch Giancarlo Stanton and frankly. It's a little awkward looking as that weird close stance and it never really looked smoothie. He strong athletic. But I sort of started see like what if this guy had a craig Juan Brock or Doug Ladda working with his swing but that body and that physical presence would we see a guy that hit fifty home runs but instead of that lifetime to sixty eight batting average. Have that be three twenty. I mean that would be scary to think about. I don't know if it's true by this. Know that a lot of people said I wish they'd get their hands on Jan Carlos. Stanton I kinda wish you could happen. I would. I would love to see like the most optimize Giancarlo Stanton six six two hundred fifty pound monster. Yeah that's a scary thought to think Chunk Cross Denton as good as he's been has been sort of figuratively speaking swinging with one hand tied behind his backer when massive arm. But I'm sure Aaron Judge Could Give Him Richard. Chinks number interested. Oh God please no. I can't handle any more of that so you can read the book again. It is called swing kings. You can read jared in the Wall Street Journal and find him on twitter at jared diamond. Do you have any recommended way for people to buy the book or any options? People might not know about in these strange circumstances. Of course these are weird times not the book launch. I imagined I didn't quite imagine releasing book into a global pandemic and then I understand that not. Everybody is in the position to go buy a book right now and I'm totally respectful and understand that however there's a lot of independent bookstores out there. That really could use the help like any small business. So I've been telling people during the position to buy from their local store. A lot of independent bookstores are still fulfilling orders online scrambling to do so. It's tough Soviet in the position to. I know these are business. That could use the help and I could use the help too all right. Well congrats again and thanks for your time. Thank you so much all right so same night. Divided and conquered today. There's so many good baseball books coming out that there's no way for any one person to get them. All in speaking of baseball books coming out. I wrote one at least co wrote one. The aforementioned book that Travis saw chicken I published last year the MVP machine how baseball's new nonconformists are using data to build better players. If you're listening to this podcast on the day it went up April seventh. And you're also listening on the day. The paperback edition of the MVP machine became available for purchase. If you've already read the MVP machine in hardcover or in some digital format. I thank you if you've been waiting for the paperback edition. Your wait is over and if you want to dive back into the book there is some incentive for you to do that. We fixed a few typos for one thing. But if that's not enough to get you in we also wrote a new afterward to the book it's Basically a new chapter which would be one of the longest chapters in the book traps. Night worked hard on it over the off season. It's really about reckoning with the prominence of the Astros in the player Development Revolution Jared. I just discussed. It's also about how Baltimore Orioles are trying to essentially imitate the Astros player development model. It's about some of the player development success stories both individual players and teams of the twenty nineteen season. And it's about whether this new player development revolution benefits players or teams more not an easy question to answer but we get into all of that in some depth and detail and we also speculate about how long it will take for the late adopting teams to catch up and when we will have relatively level playing field again when teams will achieve player Development Party. So I think it's an interesting afterward. Good reason to buy the book if you haven't yet or give it another look if you have and we hope you enjoy it. Thanks for supporting it. I think swing kings a good companion to the MVP machine. If you're in the market for both I also WANNA follow up on last week. Step last on Episode Fifteen Twenty Three with assistance from actively weld listener Adam. I reported the longest team streaks with a different player at a particular position on opening day and subsequently got a question from Patriot supporter. Thomas who says how about the opposite what teams slash players have had the longest unbroken opening day streaks for the same team in position so clearly. Where's that last list was? Mostly lousy teams an lousy players. Who couldn't keep their job for more than a year. At a time. This is going to be great players on mostly good teams. I went back to Adam. I asked him to edit his query to. Give me the answer to this question. I will also put this link online as I did for the last list. And the answer is Brooks Robinson Brooks Robinson started twenty consecutive over days for the Baltimore Orioles at Third Base Nineteen fifty seven to nineteen seventy six. No one else has equaled that streak. Willie mays came very close. Nineteen years in Centerfield from the nineteen fifty four giants to the nineteen seventy-two giants than you have lou whitaker and Joe Judge Seventeen Year streaks whitaker of course for the seventy eighth through ninety four tigers and Joe Judge maybe a lesser known name. But quite good player for the Nineteen Sixteen through nineteen thirty two senators and the only other guys with longer than fifteen year streaks. Are Todd Helton. Sixteen years at first base for the ninety eight through two thousand thirteen rockies and Mike Schmidt sixteen years at third base for the seventy four through eighty nine phillies. Yati or Molina by the way has an active streak of fifteen years at catcher for the cardinals. No one else has more than an eleven year. Active Streak Joey. Votto and Elvis. Andrus have gone to eleven so again. Check out the full list. If you're interested in one name caught. My eye on Monday alkaline had a thirteen year streak starting in right field for the Tigers from nineteen sixty one to nineteen seventy-three k line of course passed away on Monday at age. Eighty five and you know the number one guy on this list Brooke Robinson with his twenty year streak in nineteen seventy four as Kaelin was close to retirement. Robinson said when you talk about all round ballplayers. I'd say Kay line is the best I ever played against and K line is a guy who probably a lot of our listeners. If they aren't tigers fans might check out his career having heard that he died and be very impressed by how great a player he was. He is of course Mr Tiger. He never played a professional game for any team other than tigers. They signed him at a high school. He never played in the minors. He spent twenty two years with the Tigers and then another quarter century Broadcasting Tigers Games. But he's a little less of a nationally known household name he was somewhat overshadowed by some of his contemporaries. Roberto Clemente and Mickey Mantle and Willie mays and Hank Aaron. He perhaps wasn't as great at his peak as those players and yet when you factor in how great. He was at his best. And how long you lasted. He's really an all time. Top fifty player is forty second all-time by baseball reference were in that position players and pitchers not just hitters. He hit for average. He walked a lot so he got on base done. He hit for pretty good power by the standard of his day and in addition to starting in right field for thirteen consecutive years with the Tigers he also made thirteen consecutive all star teams from nineteen fifty five through nineteen sixty seven other than his batting title at age. Twenty in one thousand nine hundred eighty five which made him the youngest player to win a batting title he was. I think one day younger than ty Cobb was. When he won his first title his stats were a little less eye-catching than some of his contemporaries. He was an extremely well rounded player. He won a lot of gold gloves. He had a great arm. Good Defensive Rightfielder one interesting thing about saline though who did stick around long enough to get his three thousand th hit you retired of course at three hundred ninety nine career homers when he retired with three hundred ninety nine homers. I believe he was sixteen. Th on the all-time list. Now he's I think fifty eighth. Obviously there's been quite a lot of homerun inflation since he retired. But what's very noticeable? When you skin stat lines is that he never hit thirty homers and yet he got to three ninety nine. I had a hunch that he must have the most career homers by any player who never hit thirty in a single season and Jessica brand one of our listeners in the facebook group who is always quick with a stat check. She confirmed that that is indeed the case. Shell so noted that the most homers in a career without a forty homers season is. Eddie Murray's five Oh four and of course most without fifty and a season Hank Aaron then in response to another listener's question. She came out with a couple of fund. Fax The most career homers without twenty a single season Ron fairly who hit two hundred fifteen total with a high of nineteen and the most career homers without ever hitting ten in a single season. Brad office who hit eighty in total but topped out at nine in one thousand nine hundred nine k line of course could have done it in the season when he hit twenty nine. He only played one hundred games so although he played for decades he did tend to miss a chunk of games each season and also he played much of his prime in the offense deprived nineteen sixties so in nineteen sixty seven for instance he had Mike Trout esque 176 plus and yet at the time that translated to only a three zero eight four eleven five forty one line. Which would look that eye-popping today so alkaline. He will be missed by many tigers fan and he should be appreciated by many a non hiker spin. You can support the podcast on patriotic by going to patriots dot com slash effectively wild the following five listeners have already signed up and fled some some of the amount that help keep podcast going and kept themselves. Access to some perks. Daniel Mercati Kilgore trout at hops. Richard OCSAR and Jeff Freeman. Thanks to all of you can join that facebook group at facebook dot com slash group sash actively wild you can rate review and subscribed to effectively wild on itunes and other podcast platforms. Your reviews are much appreciated. You can contact us via email at podcast fan graphs dot com or the missing system. If you are a supporter. Thinks that Dylan Higgins or his editing assistance. We will back with another episode a little later this week. Talk to you then. 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LeBron James, Odell Beckham Jr., LaVar Ball, & Anthony Davis

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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LeBron James, Odell Beckham Jr., LaVar Ball, & Anthony Davis

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Joining me in a Tuesday. Well, well, well, we've got another LeBron drama story. But if the rapist as the Lakers, turn, let me ask you. When you wanna break out with somebody. And you don't want to confront them. Right. Like it's a difficult break-up. What are the two ways you do? You either start to pick fights you start to nitpick fights, create fights and drama. So you can escape and say, this just doesn't work for me or you get really quiet. The other partner gets really quiet you're trying to separate, so the story today. Bill plash key, very, very tied in to the Lakers. He's an award winning columnist for the L A times been here forever. He said on a radio show yesterday. I'm hearing that if the Lakers with on free agency if they with on a trade. Okay. They've got big trouble with LeBron. I mean, the LeBron era could be over before it starts here. I heard this for the first time yesterday, somebody very connected said, you know what if they with LeBron's going to say, either I'm out or get me out of here? Dave mcmanamon very close through the years covering LeBron, backed him up and said, basically, if it's July tenth in LA, and they. Get the guy from Orlando. They have to settle for him as a free agent and it doesn't meet the criterion of bringing a star here. You can imagine what's going to happen here. And where this thing is going to go. Okay. First of all, I don't think this is possible. I think it's probable, and I think the ojected or seat it's all lining up. I think this is all lining up. I've told you I think it's a Jimmy Butler hail Mary for the Lakers. Ask yourself this again when you're breaking up with somebody what are the two ways all you guys are gals listening. You want out of a relationship either start picking fights. Lebron's not going to do that. He's not really that kind of, he's never gotten know LeBron doesn't get technicals. He doesn't get in fights. That's not as personality or you go like dark thirty you separate, you stop talking you stop being verbal with your partner. The Brian James has gone quiet for almost three to four months. You don't see him anywhere in town. You don't see him anywhere with the Lakers. Why? Because this nonsense is bad for his brand. He doesn't know rob Pelinka doesn't really know Jeanie Buss. It's bad for his brand. Lebron doesn't want to be known as the guy nobody wants to play with. Lebron's like magic he's the great communicator. He elevates others. He plays well with others, this is terrible for his brand, and the, the object or seats, all lining up here when magic bailed on the Lakers. It was the perfect out for LeBron. Lebron can say magic bailed on these guys, the heart and soul of the franchises. Like I'm out I can't leave this story comes out today again. The objector seat, Philadelphia seventy Sixers are expected offer Jimmy Butler Amax extension. Now, Jimmy Butler is an older player. Jimmy Butler wants his money K, Jimmy Butler likes LA, but L A can offer them that kind of money thirty one year old guys who haven't gotten the big contract as Paul George generally take the guaranteed money. Jimmy Butler plays hard. Jimmy Butler could get hurt. So I think Toronto still has a chance to get coli. It's thirty five million bucks. For a guy that gets beat up. Okay. So don't kid yourself on this story. I don't think it's I don't think it's possible. I don't think LeBron end his career in Los Angeles this year or next. In fact, in my opinion, there's something going on in Los Angeles, which is not being discussed on a national level. When the NFL came to town, the Rams are building a new stadium. They started stealing market share from the other teams. That's why getting LeBron here was a big deal of the Lakers. The dodgers are seven games. A head of the National League the best run organization in town, all they do is win their division every year and get three four million people. So they're stealing market share. And right now, this is the best team they've ever had. This is the best team in baseball is arguably the dodgers the best team have had their seven games. Head of the National League. Now you've got the Rams in town, building a new stadium NFL moving some operations out to L A Super Bowls over the chargers. Now you've got L AFC, which is this new young hip soccer thing. That's a big hot thing in Los Angeles downtown in the city. It's catching fire. You've also got the clippers that share a building with you are. Now giving the warriors a real series. So you got market share, slowly, but surely pulling away from the Lakers, and that's why I believe these kyri Irving to the Laker rumors there started by the Lakers. They're just trying to stay relevant in this city Klay Thompson, not coming air k D's not coming near collides not come in here. Kyri Irving's not coming here, and now Jimmy Butler is not coming here and you also have a reality with Anthony Davis. We have two people who I trust who have gone public with this. Gale Benson does not want to trade Anthony Davis to the Lakers. She hates the Lakers. She owns the pelicans. Now I'm not saying they couldn't just massively overpay give every draft pick every player to get Anthony Davis. I'm sure LeBron he didn't wanna play with young guys. He wants a star, but I do not believe LeBron retires as a basketball player. Maybe as a person he retires in LA. I do not think he retires as a basketball player with the lake. Offers and the story this morning, Bill plaschke's, Dave mcmenamin tied in saying if they don't land somebody or if they land, a second tier guy from Orlando. He may just say, I'm out. Get me out of here. Remember I had the lebrons. Oh, meter. So we, we had the LeBron meter we thought LeBron would play with Lonzo ball, and we kept we kept bringing up the LeBron meter and you guys gave me flack it eventually was right now, we have the Lagaan's. Oh, meter LeBron's going to be gone meter and right now I didn't get to fifty percent. I really do. I think I think it's all lining up. He's distancing himself magic retires. The perfect out. Jimmy Butler signs a max in Philadelphia. The other guys don't end up here and Anthony Davis, pelican say we're not doing it. You think LeBron James who's been ahead of this league for fifteen years, who's one of the great businessmen in the history of the league, you don't think he's thought about this stuff and for the record. There's all sorts of teams this could be beneficial for the Lakers LeBron somebody else, Boston's got all sorts of pieces, the Philadelphia seventy Sixers have all sorts of talent. None of it really fits. This could be a win win win for everybody. It's a win for LeBron can go back to the east and get into the playoffs guaranteed. He can play with better players and more veteran players and it's potentially a win for the Lakers, they could get they could get an infusion of talent. But I don't think this story is a possible. I think it's a probable, I really do. Let me shift gears now to this. Odell Beckham is reporting to the Browns today. These are mandatory minicamp workouts. He missed nine of the ten T as in the voluntary. But when he missed those. You know, guys like me or like that's not great. But remember, the business OB Jay is in. He's really an NBA player in the NFL. No as is great for ode L Beckham. It's good for his brand. It made him rich it sells his shoes. When he doesn't show up for voluntary's. It's a business decision. It got him in the news, what players were. We talking about it. OTA's. Oh, one OB Jay, if something made you rich and famous, would you stop doing it think beyond say, is gonna stop singing? The bottom line is the best business relationships. And this is why OB Jane, Cleveland's fascinating, the best business relationships are when your interests you and me is employee aligns with the business interests. Tucker Carlson used to be on MSNBC that did not align, conservative guy on a liberal network. They broke up why the Beatles broke up. John Lennon was the brooding star wanted to do, serious music, and pull McCartney's. Like I like the pop stuff. It's popular in sales. Records Beatles broke up. Here's the reality of OB Jay's business, and it's made him rich. It's made him famous and he's really I would argue the only global star in this league Tom Brady second, I think way back. Never forget Instagram followers OB Jay's got over doubled. Tom Brady and Tom Brady second, is that he bought a Rolls, Royce, the other day OB Jay, it was orange. Why it made news Opie? Jay's in the noise business. Urinating in an end zone buying an orange Rolls, Royce skipping OTA's. These have made him rich these sellers shoes. He seen as independent push backs at a thirty. That's good for his business. Now, we also know the conflict here. No is, is terrible for the NFL business. It unraveled the great Seattle Seahawks apparent dynasty. Joyce from Pittsburgh. They have underachieve now for three straight years. Yeah. The New York Giants Oakland Philadelphia after the Super Bowl got noisy. Then they cleaned it up and got quiet again. So here's what we know the best business relationships are when the employees interests align with the company's interests Brady's aspirational and wants to win willing to take pay cuts. New England's aspirated wants to win an asks players to take pay cuts. Brady patriots perfect his interests align with New England's. But oh BJ's do not align with any NFL team. And he's gotten rich and famous off his interest, which are make some great plays. He certainly wants to win games, but you don't end up. With a supermodel in a hotel room in the sheets because you make great catches, yet end up there because you're a global star, that's who he is in the NFL noise is bad for OB. J noise isn't good noise is great. By the way, if you look at the people that sell shoes, they don't always have the most titles. They have the most discussion, an Instagram followers and talked about in viral. That's what Nike's looking at. They're not looking at his catches Nike's looking at fourteen million Instagram followers. Oh my God. He moves product. Oh my God. Young kids love him, by the way Julio Jones a better receiver. Nobody's buying issues. All right. So, I think what's fascinating about Cleveland and Odell Beckham is they both have different business interests. I mean they both want to win da but Winning's not what is made auto Beckham wrench the giants didn't win. What made him rich was noise skipping OTA's. No as orange Rolls Royce, noise couple of nice catches with Baker here over the next couple of weeks. Watch them show up on viral media watch. Over the next week, you're going to see this will make noise Baker and Odell. He'll have a one handed catch and owed ELS people will won't be about a great play by the Browns it'll be about owed L making a catch. They put it on the viral stuff. It catches fire Instagram followers OMG. It's gonna be fascinating. It's going to be absolutely fascinating. Can't wait to watch it owed L Beckham at mandatory minicamp today on the last couple of days coming up next talk about disrespect to the Toronto Raptors. I mean it's, it's really incredible. What's happening? That's coming up next be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific on Fox Sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app. Are you following your passion? I'm Carla Marie, the host of side, Hustler's. 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I don't know how you guard anybody now. He's a catch and shoot guy you can throw the ball to he can shoot that won't hurt him. But what is remarkable cave on looney is also out? Boogie cousins in Iggy are not at one hundred percent. And in fact, boogies not. Out. He's just out of shape and Kevin Durant will not play. It is remarkable to me that Las Vegas has Golden State as a six point. Favorite tomorrow night. I will take Toronto. They don't play lousy generally and back to back games to bettering team. They can't shoot that poorly PASCAL of Salcombe will play better than he played last game Lowery was annoying at best last game, I think Toronto, actually played great and take a two one series lead. The warriors offense is going to be fine if Claes hobbling around the court listen they shot forty six and a half percent against the raptors in four games. So far this year offense, you know, they'll, they'll shoot Forty-six percent. They shot about forty seven percent against the rush to the league. So Toronto's defense is better but you talk about losing flexibility defensively. Iggy. Great defender. He's not healthy Claes a great defender. I'm sorry. But a hamstring strain does not go away in four days. So in Vegas, must know something because they got him as a six point favorite. And by the way, it opened at five. And a half. It's gone up to sex. And the only thing I can guess on this. Is that this series? This will be the first game at oracle since I think Mike may twelfth or may fifteenth at may sixteenth, so Oracle's been sitting there for a couple of weeks dying for NBA basketball, so it will be like game one in Toronto. It'll be a mad house. You saw by game two in Toronto, the crowd wasn't as quiet wasn't jacked up. But when would an NBA team hasn't been home for a while, and it's great NBA team, and they need a ton of support because they're all beat up. This is not like they're going in. Fully ammo ready to go locked and loaded. So I- Vegas. It's amazing to me. It's disrespectful that Kevin Durant out clay won't be close to one hundred percent cave on looney who's become a reliable player for them as out boogie and Iggy are hurt and Golden State is a six point favorite. That's incredible. That is just incredible. An NBA finals. If I'm Toronto, if I'm Nick nurse, I walk into the, the whiteboard in the locker room and I just put minus six that's what the league thinks of you. That's what Vegas things of you. You're a six point dog. That's a shocking number. I'm not going to bet it because earlier this year, I saw number in the NBA. I thought it was the easiest better my life. And for two weeks after that my family, and I ate top ramen if we ate it all. So I'm not betting it. I'm just saying it's disrespectful, joy with the news. Heard on the news. This is the headline news from that in college though, what's that top Roman? All right meal, hot sauce on it, it was an entree into that. And everyone has their specific way that they cook it like the amount of time they have it in their get the noodles, right? Good meal sticking with those warriors injuries. They're going to need contributions contributions from just about everyone who sees the court and great games from Steph and dream on which is why the latest finals MVP odds have Steph as a big favorites. Minus two hundred followed by Kawhi Leonard is plus eighty and then J mongering Klay Thompson, kept you're an PASCAL report last night. There's some optimism amongst the warriors that Klay. We'll play despite that hamstring strain as you just said, I'm with you. I even if he does plays not going to be one hundred percent. He can't play defensively won't be the same player. Right. And, and, and like you said, I just don't think that the rafters they're, they're they're too good of a team and their two seasons of a team Danny green quiet Leonard, they've been there before they're going to make adjustments or not gonna play the same defensively that they did certainly in the third quarter knowing it. That's when the warriors tend to go on those run. So I I mean gods have changed a lot from from three game one. So now. But, I mean Steph curry being the favourite makes sense because up here, he is going to have to be within also telling you or worldly Vegas, telling you, they think Golden State's can win the series. Yeah. They are saying that which I, I don't I don't believe. And I I'm with you. I think Toronto, Toronto and Simone. I think Toronto tomorrow cheese is going to be a little more than usual. What's that word again? Turn I don't use much. I like that. I don't use much sprinkle it in. But it's going to be a little more than you got me to say let at least once a week. Not responsible for that, I will not take credit for that island has obviously had a successful for season with the raptors which has led many, many to wonder if he's going to stay in Toronto beyond this year because most of us felt like it was going to be a one year situation. But yesterday, some interesting news. Got out there. Michael Landsberg TSN ten fifty in Toronto has reported that Kawai has purchased property in Toronto. Now, qui- also owns property in southern California, but his house in southern California is nowhere near like an hour away by San Diego. It's very, it's not where he's going to live. He plays it becomes places not realistic. I mean you need to plane literally forget how a cop car like it's not close. So I, I mean it's a massive house, but not where you're gonna say plays season. Now I mean maybe he's interested in real estate. So he's just. I know. I like I'm not a real estate icon, but in Canada, I believe an American has to pay a fifteen percent tax to buy property in Canada. So if it's for investments, like Americans don't buy Canadian property for investment, generally at least not a residential property, maybe billionaires by stuff. But it's, it's like if I wanted to buy a place in Vancouver, which is my favorite city, maybe in North America Vancouver. BC it's a fifteen percent tax on top of Canadian taxes to begin with what's not a great. I wouldn't think again, I'm not a real estate icon here. I wouldn't think there's better places in America to invest, then investment property doesn't make too much. It doesn't make Miami. No St Patrick's. It's I don't know. I just it just feels to me that wouldn't be a an investment thing. L A's academies, on fire. California's economy on fire investment investment. If you're going to live in well, although he did have a very nice penthouse available for free. So don't take. Finally, the Lakers were pretty lucky in the draft lottery. They got the number four overall pick, but they might not be keeping that what according to ESPN, they are an active trade talks regarding the fourth pick and would be open to trading for veteran who, who can help them win games next season. I don't know. I don't know about this. I don't you know it's funny because I rely on my NBA scout guys I trust the very accurate. They all love three players in the draft. And then they all have a bunch of sleepers, and they're all what bail is say this. There's three guarantees in this draft. Zion will be a good player. Jaama rant RJ Barrett. Gonna score. And then all my scouts say they all have a different answer for after that. Yeah. After that, I got four different guys. I asked at one of them likes the guy from Texas that Jackson. Yeah. Jackson Hayes two of my scout. Love him and say, watch him in four years, pop. So I, I just think if I'm the Lakers LeBron I'm looking for guarantees not could develop in. Into I understand from the Lakers perspective trading, this pick that makes sense because you've you need to put everything that you can around the Bron right now that said. The Lakers haven't really done the best job of putting people around the Braun that make LeBron better. I mean, we talk about the they did bring in a lot of veterans last year. I mean it was it was demean Dream Team's. But even when they brought them in real like, what are they doing? Okay. Maybe they maybe they know something that we don't know, maybe LeBron really does have relationships with all these guys are maybe there's some crazy concoction that they ever as we learned that wasn't the case. So I don't know who exactly. They're going to trade for with this number four pick. I it silly good pick, if you feel like you can trust your scouts, and your culture, your organizations to make the right decision. If you go back to last twenty years, there's generally eight domestic players, who sign a third NBA contract. So the fourth pick, if you don't you're doing a good player, if you know what you're doing. Good player. I mean good. God, Kyle Kuzma Josh heart, comply, look, where they picked them we can, we can throw so many examples out there drained star. But I mean, I from the Lakers perspective, it's not the worst decision to try and trade for a better job of the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by heard lie. The Duggar Doug Gottlieb, Fox Sports radio after our show is I'm all gassed up on this story. You do not believe LeBron James ever leaves LA. No, no, he'd liked. He actually likes it here. Kind of like it here too. He has a child about enter into high school. And, you know, he's taking his son out of Brentwood. And now he's going to move to see Sierra canyon. Which is now the basketball factory of the valley, Dwayne Wade's going to put his kid, they're not moot. When's your kids in high school? You not moving. It's just not happening and Jeanie Buss. It'd be a moron financially to trade him every, every piece of Laker paraphernalia, every ad dollar is based around twenty three playing for the Lakers. He's a cash cow just like the Lakers are a cash cow. It's, it's not happening this idea that they can't find anybody to trade for or anybody, to take their money, by the way, which would be as much of an indictment on the Bron James as it would the culture and what's taking place within the Lakers organization. I find it really hard to believe that would happen. But even if they they, they didn't. Get any big names. I don't think they will. Well, look, they weren't that far off last year. They just weren't. And I tend to believe they will somehow I via trade or vice I if you just get a legit starting center, right? And you get shooters off of the bench, who can play with the brawn James, you're going to be a playoff team, a very competitive playoff team. So a lot of dust that needs to settle and I will say this boogie cousins, I think they overpaid and get him. Now. Why do you want your cousin? Well, I'm saying. I don't think the Lakers, I don't see all the players if Jimmy Butler signs a max that was one of the better opportunities, I think the kyri story is a leak by the Lakers to seem relevant because they're not in an increasingly competitive market. I don't see them, adding clay's not common co is not coming KD's, not common. I think you get to a point where boogie cousins look pretty darn attractive if he plays. Well in this finals, he skilled and he played one game. I know he hasn't stayed healthy the last two years. And by the way, LeBron wants a guy who's either rim-protector or a stretch five. He's neither he can shoot but he's not a stretch five like doesn't really fit there. They're gonna try and trade for Anthony Davis. That, that is, that's where the fourth pick could could end up, Brad Beal. You're going to have a new GM, eventually with the Washington Wizards and people are going to try and pick off those pieces. Obviously, the wizards are going to try and get rid of John wall's contract, but nobody knows villa for play again. What a look like when he comes back from injury, you wanna get Brad want. Brad. Eli do there's still, you know, Campbell walkers out there. There's, there's what, what happens with the rockets. The rockets apparently are a fire sale, and who's close friends with the Brian James. It's Chris Paul who wants to pun time for like five minutes was in fact, the Laker again I don't love that move. But the idea that no one's come into Lakers is feels kind of laughable. And even if they, they stood Pat, and they simply added a couple of smart pieces. I actually Lonzo ball is going to be outstanding next year. This is his first off season where he can actually work on a basketball floor and he was getting close last year. Calculus was going to be better. I mean obviously the big question is Brandon Ingram health, but it's not a terrible roster. They had a terrible culture and they had terrible injuries. And they fell out of the playoffs, and it went south in a hurry. But they're not trading. Lebron James a year into a four year contract when he's a cash cow his sons entering high school he'd likes it here. All his boys have moved out. Here's hold corporation is out here. Not in Cleveland in. It ain't happening, by the way is total buzzkill. No, no. Listen. I I just get excited about Stein. No, you do. I get very excited. I got World Cup on Friday. I just watched the craziest fight of my life. And now I got this let me, let me go into the Colli thing there's he bought property in Toronto. I don't buy it. But what I've heard Toronto real estate on fire by the I do not doubting that real estate everywhere is in America right now. It's pretty hot. Right. That's not actually America paid. Well, I mean, I'm saying in north of me. I mean it's fifteen percent charge to buy in Canada. But it's also Toronto specifically, there's such massive immigration Ryan, and a population, rush there that there's going to eventually believe a housing crisis. This may be an investment. Volcano, it's interesting but it is here, I'll say this about coli. Is that? Is much as I respect all the NBA writers in this country. I don't think anybody has a clue, I honestly, don't think in my lifetime. I've ever seen a player in the NBA has Corky guys, it had Dennis Rodman NFL quirky guys Ricky Williams, feel like outcasts the NBA kind of put their arms around the earth is flat. Kyri Dennis Rodman Kawai. We've always had a guy that's kind of an egg Ma a little bit of a mystery. I think is bodies a mystery. Do you have any inclination? Now on I have none. I got I got nothing for you. I really I really do. Right. And like he his, he has no kind of facial expression that just how he is he just he comes to work every day, and then he goes home, and he doesn't give anybody anything and people are trying to react is was ankles around now. So maybe now his uncle wants him to. Yeah. But at the end of day, quite a grown man, he's gonna make grown man decisions. So I mean, we're all operating under the presumption that he wanted to play in LA. He wanna play with the clippers. They kind of fit his personality. They need a ready made star at his position like at all kind of makes sense, but we're all just kind of guessing ask you this. Chris Bruce Sarge said this yesterday. He's. Only played over sixty six games twice seventy four is the most he missed an entire season. He took twenty two games off load management. It's he has a weird body that, that he knows. I'm not built to do ninety five games like LeBron. I'm not built for this does that I would be if that was what I knew about my body. You know, your body is a is a former athlete collide. Does. Why wouldn't you just take guaranteed money? I'm not measure gonna get guaranteed money. You're going to get less guaranteed money. And again, but this is all in your wiring, like I think the difference is like forty million dollars. And but an additional year, right? So remember that just because you say, well, there's a forty million dollar difference. And remember, he took a hit to get a trade out of out of thirty million San Antonio, because he could have gotten the supermax. They're right, right. So he's already taken a hit. Now you're talking about seventy million dollars. Remember, if he signs a four year contract, wherever he goes, he could then signed another one year deal, and he could make up who knows thirty or forty it could end up. Being awash. It's a little bit overblown. Okay. But can you really spend a hundred twenty a high K two million dollars? I can't and I try I of that boat. You had when you first came up to Connecticut an hour later you did. Yes. Yes. If we all invested in real estate in northern Connecticut, we could burn through Monday because it doesn't make you any money, right outside of that. Like I do think we're, we're guessing on a guy, and we're assuming that he thinks, like we do, we're like, man as a lot of money and Toronto loves you. You're like an iconic star in an entire country on the other hand, L A's home, and it's all money is not going to spend anyway. Right. I'm sure there's a kicker with his new balance deal where he gets more money, and they'll get more endorsements, even if he says, nothing. We're all just guessing but it's the, the money is not as great a difference as you're led to believe and money may not be the ultimate motive for him. He's already left thirty million dollars on the table in San Antonio. 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So I guess my mash unit there, a mess, they're amass and they just went on the road, like I can can we has any coach in sports history ever gotten less credit than Steve Kerr, but like well he's got the best players, not the other night. It didn't he did not. He did not have Klay Thompson. He did not have Kevin Durant. He had boogie cousins off of multiple injuries. And in his second game back and he had Steph curry who they're playing. Box and one on and they won on the road in Toronto. Like at at some point, we need to stop and take a breath and realize over the last five years last five years, the Golden State Warriors have been the best at something that I believe I believe and some in the NBA believe is a stat that can. That can discuss how great your coaching adjustments are. Yeah. The third quarter is your judgment quarter. It's what did you see in the first half? What were the adjustments you made for the second half? You're the best team in the third quarter. The last five years in the NBA is, it's the Golden State Warriors. I don't think it's even close. It's one year. It was one year. It was close. But yes, it's well the difference is there's been other teams that have been at fallen by the wayside. The one constant has been the warriors and this coaching staff from what they did defensively in game two. The raptors didn't have a bucket for what the first six minutes. It was shocking. Right. That's all defense and adjustments and figuring out what would they have what they're doing? And how do we take that away to the offense and how they guarding us? Okay. Let's get some layups. They're not just out their role in the ball out and go, like, okay, we'll just manage. He he, he does more than manage the psychology of stars. And of a dynasty, where guys are exhausted. At the process. He's actually. An incredible basketball coach with a bunch of smart guys around him. And they figure out the equation and they write up the problem at halftime and they come up with the solution, the second half. It's incredible. And as much as this is generally, how dynasties end right? The Celtics dynasty came to an end when Larry bird's back went out. Yeah. Right. And the Lakers Lakers, I run was cream got old, and then Byron Scott one year got hurt. Yep. Okay. The, the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe. Yes, they lost to the pistons and they had all that infighting, but Carl Malone was hurt. Rick Fox was hurt. They started to fall off with injuries. This is how the the one guy that's about to heat. Exactly. Right. Like D Wade, couldn't give you great back to back nights. His knees were not just that. But remember, LeBron cramped up that one year in San Antonio. Got his whole is like convulsing because he has to do so much for the team since. So the point is that even though you'll write it looks like Toronto should win this game. Because they have healthier bodies between Steph, the passing on this team, which is incredibly underrated and the coaching staff, which is like not even discussed. Nobody even says anything about it. Yeah. I would I still think the warriors will find a way because the warriors find a way I want to talk about. Let's let's, let's shift gears now to I want to talk OB, Jay. And I said he was my second story today. Is that listen, when you're rich and famous, whatever makes you rich and famous when you're young, you're gonna go back to it. Your loyalty is not to your boss. Your loyalties to what makes you rich and famous. Ono back was been on a losing football team. And he got rich and famous, and he got rich and famous in his Instagram followers. And that's why Nike walk gave him a massive NBA shoe deal is because he's noisy he. It's good. No, as is great for his business. The day orange Rolls, Royce all over the internet. He won the internet for a day. He wasn't practicing. Skipping OTA's. I could make the argument. It it was noisy. He was independent, I'll do it. My way is we know the NFL noise is not great. We know in the NBA noises, fine. There's a lot of noise players are more independent more powerful. What I think is fascinating with this, and I have no idea how it's going to end. The what really makes Odell Beckham money and made him famous globally is noise. What kills NFL teams Steelers? Giants is noise. How does it work? I well, I generally agree with you. And that, you know, the culture of NFL teams are like speak quietly it. What is it speaks softly and carry a big stick he Roosevelt? Yeah. I mean like you and I have seen the charges the chargers have everybody talks about the personnel of the Browns like the chargers have better personnel on offense and on defense. And my question is the arm strength of Philip rivers kind of late in the season, which may get to a little bit later. But we don't hear anything from Keenan Allen, right? We don't we don't hear anything from one hundred Henry now that he's back healthy like we don't hear anything from these guys. We don't hear anything from a lot of these teams, the one pushback, I will give you is it might just work. And here's why he got his best friend on the other side and you have. Quarterback who seems to know how to handle all the noise, and all the nonsense that just he thrives on it. Yeah. I like paid manning manning. They don't roll like that. Right. That's, that's not. They want everything they want. They want reps. They wanna know exactly what you're going to be exactly what you're going to want to be there. They're perfectionists per remember, but it's one of the reasons Payton struggled in the playoffs is because things aren't as planned in the playoffs. I mean even the time outs or longer the halftime everything more than anything. Like what was the penalty is no longer a penalty. Throws your timing off, and because he never had arm strengthen you exactly when somebody's going to be exactly where and threw them completely off Baker thrives in chaos. That's how he's at his best. And every scout, I talked to they're like, well, there's, you know, he's not quite as fast, not quite strong enough, arm strength, wise, whatever. But take what if you give him some guys he just finds a way and they all gravitate towards him. He has that it factor in terms of leadership. He just have to. I don't know if he has the talent, and I also don't know their early schedule is difficult if they start out three and three or two and four and you got a rookie head coach is unproven. Right. And he starts needing say in southern expressions. It could go bad in a in a bad way. But I do think there's a certain genius to John Dorsey Bill. It was like look. I dunno photo Beckham junior works. But we didn't pay him that first years money, right? We got him. We got him a quarterback who has who has the ability to deal with his ego. We got his best friend across the way. And we have a lot of towns we feel like we're going to score a lot of points. It might just work. It might not which will make it fun for us. Yeah. No, no. I think I might just work. I said last year to joy I found myself last year. Generally, I come home, and I look where I can get the two or three games. I wanna watch Cleveland was one of the games where it was like, here's they were fascinating. Here's my biggest problem. And I said this when I was on first things first months ago, I said, like look, he can say he's about winning but when you're on the hands team and you have the hands. And your entire image has been built around your building to catch balls here or there and one's role in towards you. And you make the decision to bail out, you have made it known to everybody in the NFL that you are not about winning because winning is go get the football right? Especially that's what you do best. That's why you're out in the football field. Whether you think a guy should be out there should be out there. He's had a history of injury. Whatever that said everybody's not about winning. And I think not showing up at ta shows he's not about winning. But if it's going to work Cleveland is a place that it can work. And let's, let's also not forget, he is remarkably talent. Oh, God wide receivers haven't been proven to win you Super Bowls or even get you there. But Cleveland, forget about winning Super Bowls. They haven't been relevant in years. They won one game in two years combined. And now they have a roster where people are going like you know what they got some dudes there, if they can keep it all together. They, they last year, they went seven eight and one. They were one six and one. I guess what? I what I'm saying. I was giving Jay Glazer crap yesterday. He said, I put bake. In this group of the elite guys above Russell Wilson. He was one in five against winning team. They weren't good against winning team. I mean they were Baker struggle, by the way he's a rookie. He should struggle. Sam darnold struggled. They all struggle, and they played remember. They play last place schedule. And they played, you know, in their division was Cincinnati Bengals who are were on pace to be the worst defense in the history of the sport. Right. So that helps you when you have two games there. Right. So look, you know, look at that schedule goop put the schedule back. I'll tell you that you think I'm crazy on this, the end of the year. They could face a lot of teams that are not even fighting for a playoff. Look at Cleveland's first nine games. Holy moly. That's a lot of defenses in a lot of roadies. That's a lot of road games at the jets at Baltimore west coast. I look again in June now in June. On the big gun that seconds, it looks like one thing, I, I don't wanna be NFL schedule guy. I cannot. I cannot wait. I love being NFL schedule guys brand, Doug Gottlieb, our to next one more heard the herd streams, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen live or on demand whenever you like in the eighteen fifties. Appreciate bookseller named Edward Leon Scott to martinsville made a breakthrough for humankind. Decades before Edison's, phonograph, or Alexander Graham bills, first telephone call. Scott invented the world's first audio recorder. But the phone autograph as he dubbed the device had a catch it could record but not play back this recording of Scott sinning Auclair de Lune would not be heard by anyone until two thousand eight. What else is out there that was never expected to be hurt again? Well. Jake sniff. And he raised his hand in bringing listen to feminine now on apple podcasts, the iheartradio app. Whoever you listen to podcasts, and learn more at a federal doc show. Here we go. Our two. This is Dr. Wherever you may be in. However you may be listening. Live in Los Angeles. Iheartradio, Fox Sports radio NFS one. Joy Taylor is joining me joy, I have. I'm going to expound upon theory that I have you and I both loophole yet. For our goods and. When you move I always, get the ele- sheet of paper pros and cons, one of the things I always try to remember is nothing status quo in our business. It's constantly flew yet, so I'll give you an example, folks, when I left the other place for Fox Sports. Lot of people like crazy card crazy as a new network. But one of the things I strongly considered was the emergence of podcasts, and the emergence of digital and the, and the growing power of Facebook will give you an example. So when I was at the old place I got one point two million podcast listens a month, but podcasts were on fire. So I knew I wasn't going to disappear, I get eight and a half million a month. So my podcast audience is seven times bigger at FOX, digital I had twenty seven thousand thirty thousand people listening day at the old place, but I knew digital was exploding, I now have one hundred sixty thousand minimum day. It's six times bigger Facebook. I knew this company would allow me to use Facebook and monetize it the old place. Didn't I got three hundred thirty one million views last year on Facebook nothing close in the industry. So it wasn't about just coming over here in Boston bought and working with people like joy. The world was changing around me, and it was just not. You're going to be on Amre radio signals. I knew as I came over the emergence of podcasting. The power of Facebook, the emergence of digital would ensure that if I just did a quality show that was as least as good as the other one, and I think this one's better studios better guests are better people around me and better that it would grow. So my decision was not just based on me. It was based on the world was changing, and I wanted to, and I've always believed this in business, the world gives you waves, right them. Make it easy on yourself. When you see a wave common grabbed the surf port get on the wave. I live in California here, by the beach. I like to go to the peer get a Cup of coffee and watch surfers. I enjoy that. It's therapeutic for me even the best surfer can't do it without a wave. And the waves were rolling when I came over here to FOX the podcast. Wave the digital wave Facebook, wave the YouTube channel they were all exploding and I thought well. Just do the same show. I'm not gonna disappear, nobody's going to disappear in this business. So the point being is let let me talk about an NFL player. So Adam Humphreys with a nice slot receiver and he chose the Tennessee titans. And Marcus mariota over Tom Brady and he came out. And he said, the reason I did it is. I just didn't know how long Tom Brady would play. Well, first of all, Tom Brady's future is better than Marcus mariota 's because I don't think Marcus mariota is going to get another contract and Tennessee's not very good. He's throwing for over twenty touchdowns once in a passing league. He's always hurt missed nine games in four years. At least double that been banged up. He's a nonverbal guide. Verbal position. I don't think Marcus mariota very good. So Adam Humphreys, nice kid good player, chose mediocrity Tennessee over excellence. Bill Belichick, Tom Brady the ownership, the culture two Super Bowls the momentum. He just chose it. But what he really didn't think about. Much like my career was the world's changing forty one year old quarterbacks are now thirty six old quarterbacks Russell Wilson said yesterday. I want to play till forty five drew Brees is forty one drew Brees. If you notice last couple of years he's playing at the end of the year, sold Philip rivers sold. Tom Brady have you noticed who's around at the end of the year old quarterbacks the world's changing with all the nutrition have you ever noticed when you meet somebody's kids, the kids are bigger than the dad, why because they ate better? My son has lived with better nutrition than I have. And I had parents that, you know, nice life. We ate seafood. It was fine. Right. But my son's eating far more quality food. He's got the nutrition that I didn't have an understanding of and so basically, Adam Humphreys good player. Nice player chose Marcus mariota and the titans over Tom Brady because his quote was obvious. He's the go, but there's so many things to factor in how many years does he have left. I don't know. You watched Brady win the Super Bowl last year. Was he better than Jared Goff in the Super Bowl? I mean he's been in three straight Super Bowls. Isn't he the best quarterback every time he wants to do, but Boll and you're gonna choose Marcus mariota, who's always hurt who in the last two years has twenty four touchdowns twenty three picks? I mean, come on. It's funny. There are so few guarantees in professional football like in the NBA. We knew the warriors would be good. I mean new Philadelphia Boston, you can tell the playoff teams Toronto Milwaukee was getting better. You can tell you Houston was going to be a playoff team. You know, Paul George Russell Westbrook gonna make the playoffs in the NFL Adam Humphreys had a chance to be part of a guarantee. And he chose Marcus mariota and the titans. In fact, prove my point. These are going to give you what I believe, to be absolute guarantees in the NFL. And here's how few there are, let's do. Number one patriots win the NFC east. I think that's a guarantee. They're going to get against Sam darnold second year Josh Rosen second year. Josh Allen second year. The he's going up against babies. I don't even think I'm being a patriot Homer. I think they're going to win the division if you look at their schedule if you look at the heart and the better teams they play a lot of Foxborough. He's going to begin baby quarterbacks, and all new systems and all new coordinators. That's number one. Number two, the Redskins will not be great. Okay. Now the quarterback situation. They're gonna play a kid who potentially could be good doing Haskins. Not quite ready. The coaching staffs on their last legs they don't really have in the NFC in their division. They don't lineup personnel wise with Philadelphia or the Dallas Cowboys Washington will not be great. Number three the saints. They'll be good at home. You know, 'cause they always are I don't know if the saints will be great. I don't know if they'll make the playoffs, but they'll be a better home team then. They will be a road team. And how do I know that because they're always special at home? Number four. Patrick Mahomes will throw for a lot of touchdowns between Andy Reed's play design Travis Kelsey good offensive line. Patrick Mahomes is special that got good personnel. They drafted another very good wide receiver out of college. Andy Reid knows offense Andy Reed's made every quarterback in his career. I mean Donovan McNabb thinks he's a hall of Famer you put Donovan McNabb would ninety percent of the coaches in the NFL. Donovan McNabb doesn't think that number four guarantee. Patrick Mahomes will pass touchstone. Number five Andrew luck will blame himself anytime. The colts lose that is a guarantee he he's so humble, it's annoying. He's to the point. I'm tired of in blaming himself for every loss. But he will do that. And to guarantee number six the Browns they'll be noisy. I don't know if they'll be bad. I don't know if they'll be good. I think that'd be pretty good. But they'll be noisy. Baker, his brand, Instagram Twitter fights controversy. Odell Beckham has gotten rich and famous on making noise not on not on touchdowns in wins. He hasn't he's a global superstar because of the noise, the hair, the fun, the volume the Browns will be noisy and my seventh guarantee. The raiders will also be noisy. I mean, this is I, I consider this for number one, but since I had to noisy teams I put the raiders down the list. Listen Gruden is a television personality as a coach there, GM's, former TV personality Antonio Brown again. Like, oh, BJ kind of an NBA player on the NFL. They're moving lame duck and also have kind of a dysfunctional outlaw rebel brand. Which even in bad seasons. Makes news. And by the way, that's seven NFL guarantees. I don't have an eighth. I do not have an eighth. And Adam Humphreys good kid. Chose Tennessee over that when you make a career move don't just consider yourself is the world changing, because if there's a wave and I watch these on Saturday mornings with a Cup of coffee, grab your board and write it. 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Just tell the pelicans nothing has changed. Well and. Anthony Davis and his agent Rich Paul have made it clear. We're not staying here. So this is big news now. So Anthony Davis, according to Shamsher Anya. Who's been on this show before they are now in the process of listening to teams Shams is reporting that four teams that will be able to compile the best packages. Knicks Celtics Lakers. Nets that's per rival executives. Now the Lakers have better players than the Knicks to the Knicks have better draft picks than the Lakers. Do including the number three pick, which is very attractive to that can be RJ Barrett. So that's the story. Anthony davis. Enrich rich. Paul have clearly now told the pelicans appreciate the dialogue. We want out. So Zion Williamson who I think's gonna be terrific is now going to probably have a very young group of players around him. And that's where we stand in with that. I want to bring in lavar ball founder CEO the big baller brand. Of course, dad of Lonzo lamelo and the Angelo ball is joining us. That's interesting news. Labar for you. How are you? First of all, good. How much I'm doing great. I was appreciated even though sometimes we push back to yours. Come on, and answer every question. Oh, yes. Every single time with us now. So I thought it it's very interesting. There is speculation in order for the Lakers to get Anthony Davis. They don't have the draft picks of the knits, Knicks. They don't have I would say the Celtics have more veteran players. Whereas the Lakers have some very talented young players. They have to forward to both averaged eighteen Brandon Kyle. They have your son who most exact still like in this league a lot. He's had the lower the, the bruise to his ankle, deep bruise. He will be ready for camp. Are you concerned at all? When you hear this story that potentially Lonzo could be part of a trade package. What part of LA he wanted the biggest things in LA? So you gotta make him part of the pre trade process on the fact that people gone listen to that I was wondering going nowhere. Let me let me just told us out if I told you Lonzo for the next nine years plays Zion Williamson is that worst in the current situation with the Lakers. I'm not gonna say no, no situation is worse because, like, I say, Lonzo deaths everything it was ever. His teammate he won't make them good. So I'm not going to be like, oh, that wouldn't work with him. His I on Lonzo works with everybody is got to give them a chance to let him do his thing. Lonzo was the only Laker player that LeBron put on one of his shows, one of his productions the shop. I took that as a sign that LeBron was telling people, this is the one teammate. I connect with. I like this kid. What did you make of him putting Lonzo on the shop where you've got to put him on the shop? You put anybody else on going gonna watch that they're gonna watch the shop just because Lonzo we as we is he's the only guy in the NBA with his own brand now. That's not true. Oh, yes. True. Brandon net. His own brand. Lebron have his own brand. What brand is LeBron Nike is not his brand. Lebron is Nike Nike his own brand Lonzo, as its own Branch, What will be his? Well brand, he that triple b has gone through some well, publicized difficulty. So right now that don't mean nothing. I mean difficulties of as what as in you, somebody that you perceived as a friend. Okay. Stole some money. So what happens in every business? Wasn't gonna stay thing Steve Jobs. They took more money to that in his in his business. Well, but apple I think I'm just saying it happens on a large scale on any business. This is something that always happens. It's not a big deal. Okay. You came on, I think it was undisputed. We have a tape many of your claims, which people say, Colin, lavar is just a blowing smoke and I always say with you a you've done a good job with your kids. I mean, they all got offers the UCLA and be your often very accurate. You remind me of Jose can Saco who nobody wanted to listen to and years later, we went, oh, Jose was right and all the steroid stuff. So you said this, undisputed, I'm gonna play this man's, I think is, is from our point of view now. Listen to talk and stuff like that. It's just a face. I'll be his say, so was like, say so really I know it's not because it's old me, some things I thought that should have been done as does nothing. Okay is in charge Dom trying to figure out who's in charge. That's why the system is Crumlin down. For. I don't know what's going on over there. Okay. By the way, when you said that you got a little pushback. That's probably the most accurate prediction of what has happened. It has crumbled down. A were you shocked at magic quit? No, I'm not soccer with anybody does. Like I said, like I told other people only thing I'm shocked about is, if my wife leaves me that's the only thing they can shock me. I'm not shocked by anything. Did you understand why magic left? I don't even understand why he left like I said, you, can you can tell people what the when earthquake is going come when the weather's going change. But you don't know what's going on in somebody's mind because flip in a minute. You'd be like, wow. I never thought that would happen. So I never put it past anybody's mindset to do anything different who today is running the Lakers, lavar who today's right now. Nobody's really running the Lakers. They have no clue what's going on, because we got a lot of people in the building. Everybody has a voice. There's no certainty. Where somebody has the bottom line 'cause let let let's say let's say Jeannie buses at the top. She makes the final decision. Yes. But how's he gonna make the final decision if she's sitting next to her best friend, that's been friends with her for they're not thinking, businesswise, Linda Rambus? Yes. So basically, you're gonna listen her just because she's your friend, and it might not be the right decision. That's why they say, usually the bad guy in a room is usually a bad guy in obey woman, so bad guy because he don't have no feelings. And that's how this business supposed to be Ryan. You can't do it on feelings doesn't Lonzo there. So you're acknowledging uncertainty with the Lakers. Why would Lonzo want to be part of that? Would you like I said the only thing that I saw that was crushing. Lonzo was lukewarm. And even magic had the right thing to say this Emma, boy's face it. The Lakers, we'll know Iran's to face. This sailing magic had said that before LeBron even got there before LeBron say LeBron's the face, but Nebraska's getting old faces gone. Believe it or not. He's on his way out. So the best thing to do is hook up with this youngster that can play this game has the same. I q laws was a talent and a player that LeBron has never had as a teammate, which is guy who's invested in winning and don't have all these other things on the outside looking in what I mean by that. The fancy cars the women. The, the nightlife laws was just about winning quiet rapid running and doing his thing playing basketball. You could see that laws was not faking by like oh, he doesn't really like basketball. He's just in it for the money. Okay. So if the Lakers, do not land, Anthony Davis, because they don't have enough assets. They outbid Jimmy Butler appears he's going to be offered a max deal by the Sixers hard for a player to not take forty million guaranteed. Right. I don't think clay's coming here. I don't think katie's coming here. I don't think collides coming here. I don't think Kyrie's coming. I think the Lakers planted that to remain relevant. If they don't land, anybody lavar, and it's just the same guys. There's a story today that LeBron may say I'm outta here. Do you believe brought going over how do you know that are not because is LA? They loved the wait is, whether it is they know of the next step in his life. He Space Jam movies. All this plays into effect. When you come to LA you can't go anywhere else. It's not about him playing for the money now. But him even as son, they, they like, California, the buzz, they getting around here now is he loves this? He's not going away. Who do you think they land? They don't have to land anybody. Well, they're not gonna win a chance. Well, here's the thing you can win a championship with this team, but you have to start off by making all these youngsters that you're trying to throw under the table believe that you can win with this group. They got the skills to win could I make could I make the argument last year. And I did I love LeBron. But I said last year, I didn't think he had a great leadership here. I. I didn't think he put his arms around young players and young players need love. They, you know you come into this league you're nineteen you get a lot thrown at you. You need a little love. But here's the thing to this is what the Bravo was supposed to play a lot of minutes and be winning. Luke didn't play him, the right way was on his savior, thing, talking about, oh, want to save for the playoffs wanna save. Why are you trying to save somebody? If you're not there yet. How about we play leaving me for three straight quarters him an Lonzo and let them just win and do what they do, and then take them out the last quarter's if they're winning by, by the way, it should be noted LeBron and Lonzo the plus minus of the Lakers was at its very highest when LeBron Lonzo did plight. Yes. And that's why I was thinking, why would you get in the Braun and don't play him with Lonzo to hold game until you win. If Donald is money. He's playing the whole game. If Lonzo is the player that you believe he is. Yes. Why would I not demand Lonzo ball if you want Anthony Davis? I don't have to put that out there in demand on the fact that some people may get a little bit in feelings like he only likes him he favors him. And that's when you start. It time putting different different different mixes in your group. If I'm if I'm David Griffin and you give me a number four picker Lonzo, I'm choosing Lonzo bright. What if the Lakers have no choice? But to land Anthony Davis. You have to give Lonzo up he simply the best arguable asset. But you've got to look at say. Even if you get the best player who's going to lead you LeBron go play point. Who's going to be willing to give that ball up. It's just like people was telling me the other day. They said, well, you know, lots of is not going to be the primary ball handler. I said, well, you got to look at my son differently on the fact that he don't handle the ball. You get rid of it. So quick. Get get down the court. Give him the ball. Let him take strides. You need to make a layup or kick that ball ahead where you can make it easy layup, or he's jump shot. What do you make of Frank Vogel is the new coach of your son in the Lakers? Frank vogel. I like what he says, but everybody could be good on the first day. Like they say everything you wanna hear. I love you. You so good. You're my soul mate. Same thing would Franken right now is like I like Lonzo. He's putting a point out there where he's not saying most people was talk about the veteran guards like, oh, well, at least I have Rondo to kind of mentor Lonzo and say nothing like that. He was just, like, hey, I like Lonzo of let you guys know right now. So ain't no friction be like, well get him out of here. Because what the media wants to do is say, why you wanna deal with Lonzo and you gotta deal with his daddy, by the way you were. Quieter this year? No magic tell you not to talk came. Nobody. Tell Jesus came. Tell me all, we'll, I think he could. No. We don't get talking. I think they get jail Mahal Eddy McGee. I think he's just trying to tell you ain't. Nobody tell me if I'm a businessman, I have to do business. I've got two other sons, I gotta deal with Lonzo was in the NBA. My goal is to get all three of my boys in NBA. So I still got work to do, but I'm, I'm not gonna dorm, right there. Do you have any relationship with LeBron? I don't have a relationship with a broad, see. Here's the thing. Somebody asked me a question back in the day. And I said, well, you think LeBron son is going to be good. I was like well, most superstar signs are not good. That's true. Then people turn that around like, oh, he's talking about your family before. So now you ask me a question. I gave you an opinion. So now the Bronx comes at me defensively saying, keep my family out of your mouth. Wait a minute. Nobody tell me what to say. So they're not get defensive towards him. But I have nothing against LeBron. He's been my son's favorite player. I like the guy on the fact that he big strong young and play the game, the right way doing everything he does. Yes. So I never had no no beef against him in the media. Tries to make it sound like I told them my son is going to be the first ones this billionaires plan bowl and all the Brian, he's talking about he's going to beat you to make and billions. I hope we have a race to see which one of us as black men, make it two billion dollars. All right season. Four of bald in the family available now on Facebook, watch ios answer the questions you have been remarkably accurate with some of your predictions. You said Luke wouldn't last. You said magic wasn't really running it. I think your opinion now on what's happening. I don't think they've synthesize. Magic. I agree the organization. I think there's issues, I'm interested on this pelican story, they'll lavar about they are now shopping, Anthony Davis. So I wish you and your family the best. You're always welcome here. Thank you. You know you were behaved very well today. Joy, do you have anything you'd like to press him on? It's good to see you. Good to send you. You're going to see us blue moon season for ball in the family available now on Facebook watch. Thank you for coming by the. All right. Thanks a lot. Thank you, Joe rice. I heard on the news. This is the third line news. That's a little a little inside baseball in this case inside basketball ratings or a little tricky. But we've been having talking about the ratings when it comes to the NBA finals, and how it's it's been we'll difficult so who's watching and canned 'cause we don't get the Canadian, right? That's right. Well, the NBA has said that through the first two games thirty five percent of the Canadian population has watched all or part of the finals. Now Canada's population is about thirty seven point six million. So I want to get too crazy into the math here, but that's, that's about thirteen point one six million. So that's the Canadian rating, right? Then in theory add to then, if you did add the Canadian rating to American rating, it would be around twenty six point seven million. And what would the rating would be what it usually is basically? Yes. This is what you and I have been saying, there's listen, I, I'm a big believer on this. You either like the NBA or don't. And if you don't like the NBA you're going to look at their ratings to go to the tank they're getting four times the Stanley Cup ratings. It's fine. The league is fine. They're making the by the way they were up. I think I'm could be wrong on this their global sales last year. We'll young percent. That's the bigger part of this thirty five percent of the Canadian population watching the finals is that we tend to focus on just us America. There is a whole world out there, and particularly Canada and especially Toronto is a very international city is a lot of immigration in the country of Canada. So you're you are. This is a huge international audience, and it's growing the game, by the way, if you go to Singapore, if you go to Pakistan, if you go to Amsterdam, you will see more NBA jerseys than NFL jerseys. It's a global game. We can't get caught up on what domestic rating is the. The league is printing money right now. And they are making an effort to expand the game with leagues in other countries. So they want it to be there. There's, there's a league is former President Barack Obama in balden running leeann Africa. And so I believe several countries and they've, they've made some other leagues as well. I don't have the country's front of UBS. They're they're growing the game globally. Want to redo the, the way the G league is structured, so that there's options so kids don't have to go to New Zealand the best way, somebody said this to me once the kid in Beijing who buys a Milwaukee Bucks jersey, because he loves yawn us is every bit as valuable as a pacer fan sitting in the twelfth throw at battery. Now, it's when you're a global brand, it's not just about domestic rating a domestic season ticket holder. If the kid over in Beijing is buying shoes every other year, or a Rafter jersey. Valuable as a kid, I win a court putting teams in Angola. Egypt, Kenya, Morocco Algeria, Rwanda, Senegal, South Africa. Cool and. You know who I'd be freaking out joy, if I was in NHL owner in Canada? Yes. That's that's, that's the bad news with thirty five percent of Canadian viewers be watching Vancouver and a playoff series. I mean, that that's what I'd be frigging, if I'm NHL owner in Canada. And I'm saying to the NBA is getting bigger country than hockey. And also, this is another selling point. Honestly for collide. Stay in Toronto. Raptors should be all over this. So this is pretty big news. Todd girlies role may be decreasing moving forward because of looming concerns about his left knee, so Cording to NFL network's Ian Rappaport. The days of girly being the straight up every down Val cow, or probably over just based on his knee. His age the position, the amount of Carey's he's had, it's probably not going to be like that. Which, by the way, is maybe why the Rams drafted running back in the third round someone they really like a lot. This is a team that's clearly ready to spread the ball around by the way when they gave him a contract, joy it was a year. Before they had to. And I had an NFL exact who I have great respect for. Say why did they pay them a year early? You don't do that with running back you do with quarterbacks. You can do it with a tight end a left tackle, but a running back they don't last forever in this like you don't pay running backs in this league until you have to pay running backs in this league. And now that's going to be a lot of money that's not gonna be on the field. Yeah. This is this is kind of devastating news for the Rams. Although I mean clearly they have a plan. So they saw this coming being that they did draft running back in the third round. But what's all that money tied up in Todd Gurley? Look, I, I feel like you have to you have to pay talent like that's not gonna win in any league without talent. And sometimes you just have to pay guys. And as of recent running backs have been an incredibly crucial part of this success. Todd Billy not being available crush the Rams in the Super Bowl. I mean to me the biggest factor. So they are incredibly valuable and, and their value has increased whereas for a while we were thinking, you know, maybe maybe you do always. A running back by committee. Or maybe you shouldn't pay the running backs that much I just think, in this particular situation. And they don't feel like he's can be in every run back and that's fine also. Sometimes you do need to spread it around. I agree with you. You have to pay talent. But I do believe there are certain positions in life, don't pay you have to and like in baseball. It's a non salary cap if you want a guy, go get a. Yeah. Yeah. I think now you get away with it now because Jared Goff is making big money. So it doesn't ques- you like it would well that allow the Rams to put together the team did because of Jared Goff. And if you can give him, let's say gets ten carries not sixteen in you like this third round back, it could all work out, by the way. C J Anderson helped get him to the Super Bowl, too. If you if you only get twelve carries not seventeen nineteen, we're not saying he's not playing we're just not gonna make him a Twenty-three carry a game guy may actually turn out to be a better situation because you don't feel like you have to run him like that. Because you're paying him that much a lot of times these guys have this big contracts. You get the feeling like okay he's got to be in every damn back. Look at what he's making when in reality, it's better for the team if he's not does, get maybe just the third down Carey's, or whatever it is, the structure might actually be more beneficial, and finally great news out of the big ten conference today. Kevin Warren, the CEO of the Vikings was introduced as the leaks six Commissioner today, left the CEO of Minnesota Viking. The vikings. He was promoted to the CEO COO of the Vikings in two thousand fifteen he became the first African American CO and NFL history and the highest ranking African American executive working on the business side of any NFL organization, and now he's set to become the first African American Commissioner of a power five collegiate conference. Oh, big higher by the big ten. Well, you know what? Good congrat- to the big ten first of all because you got a great candidate. Secondly, you know, it's funny college football's now, paying coaches and administrators a lot of times as much or more than NFL. And in college. You know, you generally have if you're a Commissioner of a sport. That's a fifteen year job for life. NFL GM CEO's depends on if the owners in a good mood dependent of your quarterback and win game. Right. No, it's yeah. I mean well, in this situation, you're not responsible for one specific team and you're not beholden to try one billionaire that so. Guy he took over for Delaney was alleged, dealmaker, total dealmakers, so good for him. Good for the big ten, that's great joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by heard line new Chris Haines joins us next. We have breaking news. The pelicans now are taking offers for Anthony Davis. That is breaking the very latest with Chris Hanes. Anthony davis. Rich. Paul have told the pelicans thanks, but no thanks loves ion we want out. This is going to be a massive story for the next two weeks. Three weeks until a deal is made. I will ask Chris next when he thinks the deal will be made be sure to catch live additions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, not an Pacific, and Danny Shapiro, my new podcast family secrets, just wrapped up its first season and it's filled with stories about the secrets that are kept from us secrets that we keep from others and the secrets, we keep from ourselves if you've been waiting. The right time to binge them. All now's your chance check out the episodes, along with bonus interviews and stories and keep an ear out for the next season in August. You can find out more at family secrets podcast dot com, and you can listen and subscribe at apple podcasts, or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. All right. We have breaking news. The pelicans David Griffin. Is now taking calls and offers on Anthony Davis trade packages. Let's go, let's go to the phone right now. And bring in Kris Haines him here f s one, you see him a lot senior NBA insider for Yahoo sports. Cleveland Plain Dealer covered the warriors. So Chris, thanks for joining us. So the story comes down. David Griffin is now fielding offers that leads me to believe that Rich Paul and Anthony Davis told David Griffin. Thank you. But no, thank you is going to be awesome. But we want out. What did you make of this story? No. I mean this was just the next step. This is the next step David Griffin informed after does as a Rich Paul, you know, they're just going to, you know, move and try to see what's out there. You know this. This was all understand, risk, Paul Griffin's relationship dating back, you know, when they host the Cleveland they have a good a good firm relationship. And so, you know there wasn't. Anything? Hostile with talk David Griffin understood Anthony Davis position, but he definitely wants to let him to, like, hey, healthy going into different Brexit, with organization got a new training staff. You know re restructure the front office. You know this is going to be a good building block that we have in the number one pick. But, you know, hacking Davis let let them know like no. That just hasn't hasn't changed. The position has changed it, you know, they're, they're just gonna, you know, try to go to impart their step away, think it's good football, okay. Now, this is good news for LeBron, obviously in the Lakers, but there have been reports that have surfaced that gale Benson would prefer, not to trade him to the Lakers, who she's no big fan of and she'd prefer, not to trade into the west. If I told you of the four or five teams that have come out where do you suspect who will have the strongest opportunity to land? Anthony davis. You know, I it's tough, you know, I would have said months ago. Probably that Boston, you know what? They're yeah. The troll of asset. But, you know, it's looking likely day by day, that Kyrie's not going to be a part of that. And that was one of the reason I actually reported believe back in February or sometime that active David didn't have Boston on a list, because, you know, he was concerned with, you know, Connery's long-term feature there Boston, and that's like is going to play out it, it's gonna it's gonna be tough. It's wide open right now. I don't that's fairly that the own public is owner and David Griffin, which is adamant not train them for the west. I think at this point, this is not the mess that David Griffin David Griffin mate. You know, he, he didn't create all this, and so with him, I think he needs to do what's best for the organization, I think he will do that wherever wherever he can bring home, the best assets to keep this franchise before a law. Period of time. I think that's what he's gonna do. And if that's the Lakers. I you know, I think obviously, there will be some hesitancy, but if the Lakers pack is, is just so much more than what anybody else out there has been, I think they have to listen to the pick of that deal. Now the Knicks have better picks in the Lakers, the Lakers have better players than the Knicks, listen you know, that at least kouzmine or Brandon Ingram. They would take one of those forwards. They both averaged eighteen they'd want the number four pick, they'd want one of those forwards in Europe Pinon. Would they want Lonzo ball? Yes, I think they will want him. And I don't you know, I don't know necessarily that they want him just for a feeder cornerstone player. But you know he's a former number two pig. You no. They're still upside with him. So you, you have to have you'd have to bring him on just for just but clear standpoint is just having another searchable asset. So with that being said, yes, I think he wants, you know, probably have to include Lonzo oil, and at this point for the Lakers. I think you know, there are rumblings early on. This will stay with you. All this Lakers going through their negotiations that Lakers wasn't putting forth, their best offer like they're in. No, I, I don't know if that's true or not. But as a corner for this summer this off season, they're in no position to be flirting with and plan and tinkerer. You gotta go all in. And if that means putting in a whole young court again, AD I think you have to do that. No. I just had lavar ball on the show. I. If I'm David Griffin. I want the four pick. I want one of those forwards and I want Lonzo ball because if I got Zion running down the floor. I know that Lonzo ball, makes wings better. So I think you have to, I don't think they're making that movie the Lakers, unless lonzo's part of that package. Now, do you believe? You can't make a deal until the season's over. Do you think this deal with Anthony Davis would happen sooner than later, like when would you suspect the timeline would be here? I wouldn't be surprised if it happens before the drive all day, but I, I don't expect I would be highly surprised if this extended out late into the AUSSIE. So my Raines, I'm, I'm thinking for a move like this. If you have, you know, New Orleans wants to move on David Griffin wants to move on. Do you know this is his this is his this is his time now this, this ten so, you know, I, I think he's gonna look out there. These these these, these offers gonna come in quick and aggress. It does Anthony Davis. You know just the time to do it before the draft. So I wouldn't be surprised if it happened around on, but I wouldn't expect this to extend deep into deep into the off season at all, by the way, you're covering the finals Klay Thompson. The MRI confirmed. He has a hamstring strain, Chris, that tells me even if he comes back, he'll never be fully healthy for the series. Isn't that your takeaway? Yeah. I don't. Think I don't think you can, you know, I saw them after the game. He actually told me that he can't see himself missing tomorrow night's game. And when he was after the game in the locker room, you know, he was stretching that, that hamstring out and just yelling that time you know with the pain with certain movements of his leg. And so, that's when you knew was was quite, you know, pretty pretty stubborn say that serious, but it was it was it was a native concern. But he felt like he felt like he was going to be able to give it a go to the warriors or call questionable right now. So we'll see. But I'll tell you right now with with Katie and Klay Thompson, if they're not available for game three mad at that puts the wars, and the dire state that they never been in store in the sample, super no question. Chris Haines great stuff NBA insider, Yahoo sports. Thanks, Chris Collin, Collin. I would I want to mention Vinson the media game but media game we put together that's going to be live streamed on T Mobile's on there. Twitter account metro at T mobile. I got the media gang comprise of forty media meme. Plants in night, so term style, you can watch everything is going to be live compensating. It's see somebody fans could see some of their favorite media's numbers going at it and players, get the some of the media members that they hate kinda sticking it up. So it's going to be a good event tonight or encourage to check that out. All right, Chris. Thanks, buddy. Thanks karl. Anthony Davis on the block. The trading block our three next one more heard the herd streams, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen live or on demand, whenever you like. This is the heard our three. We're live in LA. Wherever you may be. However you may be listening. Ron Fox Sports radio. What I heart radio right here in f f worn joy Taylor is joining me. So we don't get breaking news, many once a week on our show, we get breaking news. Got two things. The Todd Gurley news. He will not be there bell cow back. They drafted somebody in the third round. He's gonna split carries. The paid them early took a risk, not great. A lot of money not in the field if that's the case in Rappaport reporting. Now, the other story is a Anthony Davis is now on the trade bloc. So now remember joy a wound week ago? Anthony Davis had a break-up breakfast with the pelicans and I said, on the air at the time I said it's perfect. It wasn't even a lunch because the longer in the day you go. The Harvard is to have a break-up, because the later in the day, people get more aggravated. More agitated, you know you can have a glass of wine with lunch. You have a lot of wine with dinner, but it's easy to break up in the morning. That's why they call it break fast. It's quick. It's one meal. It's pancakes, easy to break up with somebody over syrup and waffles, very difficult over a pork chop, a salad a desert, an entree violins wine, dark room, you go to I hop boom, you're out of a relationship and like nine minutes. It's, it's perfect. So I said. The day it happened, the pelicans that I'm a huge break. They took him to breakfast, not lunch. And it's easy to break up at breakfast, and he didn't. And I'm like, what are you doing Anthony Davis? You're becoming what everybody says you are soft nice sweet. But not an alpha, you gotta break out with people. It's hard it stinks. It's uncomfortable. But in life, I've broken up with companies. I've had women break up with me. I've roken up with people. I called off friendships. It stinks. It's no good. But as a guy if you want to be a leader, you gotta have some alpha, you gotta be comfortable with this comfort. So a week ago, Anthony Davis has this meeting this breakfast, break fast and instead of just going on out the story came out, well, they'll continue to have dialogue, and I'm like it got gotta be kidding me. Well, apparently over the last week, maybe they had another break fast, but Anthony Davis finally told them, I'm out because this breaking story today. Hey, the pelicans now are listening to trade offers all that tells you is a week from the last meeting, Rich Paul, Anthony's told David Griffin. All right. We had breakfast. Listen. We love the coffee croissants are wonderful. We couldn't break up in the moment, but we don't want to be part of this ion thing we want to win. And I think this comes down to something. Kendrick Perkins told me it's real simple. Anthony Davis doesn't want to rebuild again. And I don't blame these players don't blame Anthony Davis here. If you live in New Orleans, he gave you seven years. You couldn't get him good enough teammates. It's why LeBron left Cleveland the first time. Okay. There's a reason the NBA structure financially players can make more staying with the team. There's a reason the NBA did that they want players to stay. That's why the NBA structure, it'll give guys an extra guaranteed year. Paul George got an extra guaranteed year. Staying in Oklahoma City instead of going to Lakers the league wants you to stay. But the league also understand that there are bad owners and bad situations and bad GM's in the pelicans have been a mess for years. Their NFL people before David Griffin got hired. We're running their NBA team, Anthony Davis, sat there. Good soldier played his butt off twenty five thirteen tonight and then they get a new GM in David Griffin very competent. Same owners and stuff. And Anthony Davis is like, okay. We're gonna get Zay on, but I don't want to give you another five years look around the NBA right now. What is Toronto veterans, Danny green Serge Ibaka? Choline leonard. Kyle. Allow remark Ghazal old guys. Fred van bleeds. One of the only young guys, what are the warriors drain on staff clay boogie cave on loonies a young guy. Iggy. Veterans went in this league veterans have always one in this league. Yes. Magic one is a young guy. He had Kareem that veteran roster. And so Anthony Davis is doing what LeBron did what Kevin Durant did. Hey. Lebron's, like Dan Gilbert. Mike GM's can't get me. Good players. I'm going to Miami. And Kevin Durant said, hey, you're putting your arms around Westbrook. The first owner I had in Seattle, sold the team and move me. Dog Wilma city, and I gave you a bunch of years, and I'm out and we always beat up on these players. But Anthony Davis has now said, I don't want to rebuild. Again, I got about, I got four more peak years have had some injuries. I don't want to rebuild again. And so now teams this is a good day for LeBron. This is a good day for the Knicks. And LeBron now the Knicks have very good draft picks. They have the number three picking this draft. If you're the pelicans, do you say, okay, we're gonna get Zion with a one. He's a guaranteed twenty point game very early RJ Barrett. Join. I agree. He's a score. A lot of people think he's got hardened qualities. I think he's somewhere between harden and Rodney hood, but he's a twenty point a game score pretty quick in the NBA. And he just say, I'm going to take these two Duke, southern kids and we're gonna roll with it. I gotta be honest with you. That'd be fun. That'd be fun. I'd like that. I watched Duke play twenty times last year. These two are going to be really good NBA players. They're good kids. Zion's gotta magnetism that is very Magic Johnson. Very michael. Zion is just different than any college player. I have seen since. I don't even know magic. I mean seriously. He's that magnetic, dynamic talented. So if you're a Laker fan this morning, you're like, all right. All right. All right. But the Lakers have better players than the Knicks. And I believe actually, you could argue better assets than everybody that will make a move on him, except Anthony Davis. But I don't think Anthony Davis wants to play in Boston. He never put it on his initial list Christine just hold of this ten minutes ago. He never put it on the initial list. So to me, it's pretty clear. Anthony would be a Nick, Anthony would be a Laker. I do think he would go to Brooklyn if you know, he got on the phone and Kyrie Irving said, and I believe this to be true. I think Kyrie irvings going to Brooklyn, and I do the Anthony Davis would go to Brooklyn and play with Kyrie Irving because you wouldn't be rebuilding. Those two guys get you into the playoffs. You know somewhere. Between a you know, a six seed and a three seed, Kyrie Irving. Anthony davis. That's pretty good team. So now there's another story today. Bill plash giddy LA times, a very well connected. I came out and said people are telling him if the Lakers, do not land, a legitimate big time, free agent, or somebody threw a trade by early in July. He's outta here or is going to demand a trait now, Doug Gottlieb came on earlier and said he's not leaving people. Doug Ali said this he doesn't think LeBron will ever leave. Yeah. Actually likes it here. No, I kind of like it here too. As a child about to enter into high school. And, you know, he's taking his son out of Brentwood. And now he's gonna move on to see our canyon, which is now the basketball factory of the valley and Dwayne Wade's gonna put his kid. They're not moot once your kids in high school you not moving, it's just not happening, and, and Jeannie Buss. It'd be a moron financially to trade him. Lebron's obviously the biggest star in town period in terms of athletes. Here's where I think it's really interesting. Just consider your David Griffin. Now, your owner regardless of what you read would prefer prefer. He doesn't go to the Lakers. They ripped your organization for about a month straight in January with a trade deadline mess that I still contend the Lakers can get him but they'd have to overpay to get him. They'd have to give up more than say the Knicks would I think Gail Benson's, probably David Griffin air saying, make the best deal. Wink, wink. Make the best deal you know, we've all been in relationships like that. Honey? Myanamar serie. It doesn't mean much my birthday. Don't worry about it. The does it what, what, what the Lakers have to do here. They have to win this trade. If it's a coin flip they'll send him somewhere else. And that begs the question is Lonzo ball, no longer a Laker 'cause Zion is going to be a forward. You don't need to more forwards. You could use coups more or Brandon Ingram. So that'll be part of it. The number four pick will absolutely be part of it and probably the Lakers first round pick next year. You start looking around I'd want Lonzo ball, I'd want. Brandon ingram. Kyle Kuzma, I'd want the four picking a number one next year. I'd probably want, Josh heart off the bench. So very, very interesting. Anthony davis. The story is out now. Shamsher Anya has broken the story that Anthony Davis is on the trade bloc, which meaning Rich Paul who's also lebrons agent has told the pelicans he's not gonna rebuild again. There you go. Very interesting stuff. Very exciting stuff. What do you make of joy? I think the whole MBA world's going to look very different in a few weeks. I think it's the possibility that everyone just stays put. But I think it's. Well, we're not. We know Anthony Davis isn't saying put, so that's good. Yeah. That's good. So we know Anthony Davis of all the guys, the one guy, we know that's not staying put this morning. Well, we don't know they're listening to talks, maybe they don't get anything they want. I think it's down to the Knicks. And I think it's down to the Lakers because I think they want him the most I don't buy Boston. I don't think Anthony Davis wants to play their, you know, first of all, Danny aines you know, this he doesn't like to lose traits. He's like, he has to win every trade. Well, if you give Jason Tatum up. By the way, another Duke guy was I on then Boston wins it. But with Danny Ainge give up Jason Tatum. I know I don't think so. I don't think that's the question about Boston because Boston's in a good position for Anthony Davis to go there, even without kyri. But how much else are they going to have to give up it if I gonna look differently if I don't know Anthony Davis is gonna resign with me? There's no way I'm giving up Jason Tatum. There's no way and also the Knicks are not really not the best position for Anthony Davis. Either don't have any right? I think it's Lakers, Brooklyn. And I think Brooklyn looks, I've been told by somebody, I absolutely trust. Kyri is about a seventy five or Senator Brooklyn. He's made his mind up, and I don't think Kevin Durant necessarily would go to Brooklyn. I think Anthony Davis. Listen, if you get kyri trade them, diangelo, Russel bunch of picks, but the pelicans now David Griffin listening teams, the ones they put down Knicks naps Lakers, Celtics, Celtics have the most assets. But I don't think Anthony Davis would Gary. T- them he would stay, and I don't think Danny Ainge would run with that. I just don't think he would. Just look at I watch guys resume. I look at Danny's resume. That's not what he does. That's not what Danny aines. Does he want certainty? Not finger crossing be sure to catch, live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, not AM Pacific on Fox Sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app. Anthony Davis is now in the trade bloc, I'm reading this from the athletic the athletic today. Shamsher Anya, we've brought on this show forty nine minutes ago. Anthony Davis is preferred destinations. Lakers next clippers. Now, I I've been told the clippers he is not their number one free agent co I think choirs and probably Katie. Yes. So that's what I've been stout like the clippers don't like him. But he's not there, number one, Lakers. See him more as a number one. Your Anthony Davis, which one Lakers next clippers which one to use stands out that would be a better fit for you, as a six year, veteran, twenty-five thirteen guy, a big, you know, the west, but the east is weaker plan will LeBron would probably be great. I think that'd be a nice do. I think they need one more piece playing with the clippers will be fun that team plays hard, hard hard. And now they have a go-to an a real I mean, that's no knock on who they've Ag an area, sweet Lou up, and they have a bona fide superstar now would be interesting. The Knicks to be a part of to be the player or, or a couple of players that go in chains that franchise. Is that, that, that put your stock up and changes your life drastically? So those are I think those are all great choices. We'll have to see what happens. You know, I'll just throw this out the Lakers have gotten some really bad press. And there are doubters if the clippers can land people because of their history, would it team? An owner GM wanna be super aggressive and get this deal done. So it sends the message. Okay, we've got stars because if the Lakers went out and made a deal for Anthony Davis. And they had to give up Kyle Kuzma, Lonzo ball Josh heartened picks. But it would be Anthony and LeBron and you'd be saying all that negative stuff. You've heard about magic we have two stars then for all you free agents who can make choices over the next ten days, like I think, to myself, the Lakers need to change the narrative writer doesn't a trade change the narrative immediately. I think definitely sends the right message. And even if that's my whole thing with the Lakers situation is say, they get a D And then that's it for this summer. You have to be okay with that, because I think like you said, that's a great first step. And then you have to let this fire burnt out, because it's, it's a it's a dumpster fire over there. It is, you know what I mean. So you lay if you're lucky enough to land, one of these guys this summer, and it may not even be they may, whether it be Jimmy Butler, Bradley Beal, you're only able to get one. You have to be cool with that this year and understand that you're not only working towards something else. But you're also rebuilding your image in your brand. You know, I mean, the Lakers aren't with the Lakers, are there's, there's no respect there for the Lakers anymore, which is crazy. It's funny. I like Anthony Davis. Let me. Push back on bigs. I've never I think in the current NBA, I want wings and guards, first of all, generally, Anthony Davis is a great free throw shooter most. I don't trust late network. I just don't Secondly big get hurt early. They get hurt often. I don't think Anthony is your typical alpha. I think he's he'll give you twenty five thirteen but I think LeBron's more alphabets, and I think that would be an okay situation for both of them. You know what I mean for LeBron to still be the shield, but Anthony Davis says their go to guy, you know, and it, it would save the bronze legs a lot. But I really wanna shout out, you know, Griff over there in and, you know, Orleans. Yeah, I played for with Phoenix just known as a guy. Great guy, great basketball mind. But you have to get rid of Anthony Davis, especially if you're lucky enough, if it's going to be Zion. You don't wanna you don't wanna start his, his run with the cloud over the French point. You know what I mean? I if guys wanna be out as much as fans may not like it. Other people may lie, lock it that automatically isn't going to pry divide. The. Locker room a little bit. So you don't want that kind of energy around your locker room, you know what I mean. So I think for them to try to hold onto them and all the crazy stuff. They were doing was terrible move. I mean he's an amazing talent, but he doesn't wanna be there anymore, and you can say what you want about that. He just doesn't want to. So you have to move them in griffis coming there and done that. And, and now he's opening up opportunities. And letting people know whether it'd be the Lakers, whoever we're gonna listen to, you know, we're going to get the most, we can get for him. Do you know David Griffin? Do you think he'll go the gimme picks? It start over with Zaylon. Or do you think he's like, you know, if you give me a veteran and a pick, we could be a playoff team. It's tough. It depends on what they're going for you know what I mean. Because I think that's a situation where you're going to have to draft very well. I mean, they drafted Chris Paul and tried to make Rome with him didn't work AD same situation. But you're not going to that market is not going to, you know, attract obviously big time, free agents. So if you're able to get nice pieces and a trade and that how you wanna make your own or do they want to go, like, okay we just want to draft pick. And we want to try to really draft these next two to three years, because we see some really talented kids coming out. So the athletic reports that Lakers Knicks clippers are as three teams he's interested in. They also put in Brooklyn, which I think, is going to land Kyrie Irving and the Celtics. Although I don't know if AD wants to play their Matt Barnes, joining us, let's move to the finals tomorrow, Golden State's favored by six despite the fact they're beat up. I don't worry about their offense. But d you worry about this clays their best defender, there's no way off a hamstring injury. He's the same defender, boogies never been a great defender. He's hurt. If Katie comes back, he's not healthy Iggy that our second best defender. He's not healthy. Here's my question. I don't worry about them hitting shots. That's just they Quinn. Cook can hit shots staff can hit him clay hurt could hit him catching shoot defensively Golden State's going to be a marginal team. It's going to be interesting, and I think what's going to happen now with all these other guys out his cO is gonna guard Steph. A lot. I think so or at least down the stretch. You know what I mean to try to, to me right now in not that it's gonna come down to one on one match up because these guys may not even match up. A right now. You got Steph in Colli superstars, and then you go down to Seok them dre mongering. And then you go down to Iggy and Kyle Lowry. And then you can even take it as far as going to the bench and having can Quinn cook, neutralize van plea. He doesn't have to score as much, but can you take the -ffective Sawakin you keep them from getting that sixteen eighteen points? Again that team going. He has to take that defensive challenge. But to me, the x factor is going to be boogie. You know, for him to come out and have the game, too, he had to kind of get his legs back under them. Get a double double with six assists was able to protect the basket. Can he consistently continue to do that? Because he's going to be need to call you know called on more now than looney went down. You know, UCLA guy feel terrible. He's played well they really think he's one of their future pieces. They like him aligned very well throughout the playoffs. Always did what he was supposed to do. Always in the right place. You know, and then and then bogut bogus, one of those guys who's a proven veteran that you can sit out, you know, thirty five minutes of the game and input him in he'll still be effective, and do what he has to do. So to me, the way, the way, the reason why Golden State is because although Toronto maybe looked better on paper, Golden State has been there. And you can tell down the stretching and game two oh, there's no question. You experience the no panic. We've been here before we've been down by more we've been down in a series before. Like all that battle tested. This is the reason why Milwaukee couldn't get past Toronto by the way. It's interesting when you played for the warriors and wanna ring. Did you ever face team in the playoffs, you could sense? They got anxious in the playoffs, you could sense. They had the pieces because I feel like Milwaukee froze a little in the headlights, I felt like in game two. Toronto froze, a little in the headlights when you were with the warriors did you send teams? I don't know if it was syncing other teams are just being believing the how confident on how good we were or they are now they just they've been through everything. I mean in really, they're taking the next man up mentality to a whole new level. You know in really hats off to coach Kerr in in these players because you think these guys didn't really play a lot. You know what I mean and they're coming in and playing pivotal minutes in the final in doing great jobs on both ends. And but to me, like I said, would that matchup back and forth with the guys I, I mentioned earlier. All everyone on Golden State has been there and been successful at it, they they've won files and they've lost finals, you know, outside, of course by an endangered green on Toronto. Those guys haven't done it. Sergia bocci. He went to the finals and lost in the finals. But, like I say, I just think Golden State's experienced but if anything could hold them up, it's going to be these injuries. By the way, what do you make a coli buying a house, or something in Toronto that room? Or what does that mean to you? I don't think it makes much. It doesn't make much noise to me, you know, the similar situation where you know, Katie bought a place in New York, I guess, and is selling his place in the bible on no, like all these guys are selling their place in the bay, because they're going to have to move to the other side of the bridge. So just because they're selling their house, on the Oakland side, doesn't just because Katie sold that house, or if that's the house, they're talking about. He would have to sell that house anyway. Because you're gonna have to move the San Francisco side for the new arena, and you guys are all you NBA guys you buy houses. It's. That doesn't too. That's what that's what I that's what that's what happens. You know what I mean? So I don't I don't buy too much into it. I think these guys, once the dust settles everyone's talking about Katie choir where they're gonna go, where they're gonna go, I think, after the finals, and they've had to come to kick their feet up and realize what happened with this season is when they'll finally decided good changing, Bob. It'd be saying have Barnes joy with the news. Turn on the news. This is the heard line news. A couple of injuries or dealing with. Yeah. Couple right now, they're gonna need contributions from everyone, is he's the court and especially great games from Steph and Draymond which is why the latest finals MVP odds have Steph as a big favorites. He is minus two hundred quiet Leonard at plus two eighty right now who's third dream on Draymond green. He has played great. God. He's playing what has played great. He's like double the player in the playoffs. Seven seven seven regular season than thirteen ten in eight and a half postseason is also he's just perfect for this team like maybe another team. He would not be as valuable or the idea of giving him a max contract with seem silly, but. This'll be a sweep by the raptors without Draymond. And with all the other injuries, going on he is so vitally important, especially defensively you we keep talking all day about how important defense is going to be in this next game. This is very true. Your point. He is what they aren't like if you look at New England receivers they're all tiny guys. Gronk was what they weren't. Oh, good. Lord of six six guy. That's why when drunk retired I'm like, okay, they, they gotta get any went and drafted a big receiver Dray on is what the warriors isn't physical energy, annoying. He's just enough of what they aren't to bounce them. It works. And that's what you need. Yes. And, and a lot of ways that's kind of throwback to another series. But that's kind of what the rockets lot, like they, they have this system. They opened up into the system but they need something else about that out. And that's why Draymond so important. I, I do think that, if the warriors ended up wanting the series, Steph curry is heavy files MVP, though. It's why so heavily favored. So you just. Talked about this quiet Leonard has had a great first season in Toronto. And now there are some rumors. Michael Landsberg TSN ten fifty Toronto reported that has purchased property in Toronto. Now, Matt, just said, you know, guys by property all the time. There are quite a bit of taxes involved in buying a house in Canada for an American citizen. Right. And Doug Gottlieb on earlier who said that there is a lot of people immigrating to Canada. So you know real estate maybe up premium there right now. Oh, Toronto's global city. Right. Not just Canadian there are some logical explanations for why he might wanna buy property, obviously another one is that he's feeling comfortable any wants to say or maybe he come. He came across the, you know, house that he really loved. And he's thinking about saying, so he thought he should. He's taking drive into the arena. You saw nice rancher a fixer upper bungalow, and he sighed just wanna, you know, I want to do my carpentry skills with my massive hands and I want to fix a house up. This is this is part of this is part of the deal. We just we look for breadcrumbs we find. Right. We highlight it, and then it becomes a whole bakery. And we just want to know the reality is quite Bubby doesn't even know. Hawaii is focused on right now on the finals and being the warriors. I'm sure he. He's not talking about his thoughts about whether he saying going, same with Kevin Durant, and everyone else's. Well, the only people who are actually thinking about where they're going ex season are the guys who aren't in the final, right? Anthony Davis is thinking a lot about where he's going. Right. So none of us know anything, especially when it comes to cry, but we're just trying to follow along. I finally, Cleveland's so, you know, Baker mayfield's not been one to shy away from the camera critics, and he's apparently not shy about talking the same way about his teammates, so Duke Johnson, confirmed to reporters at many day that the team wants to trade him. So let's listen to Duke and Baker. Understand that they say. His job was John bussey job is to do what's best for the team. No conviction. I and again, that's getting rid of me for a bigger piece. In the better piece, I'm okay with him. It is what it is. It's not operas for anybody else. How do you support it? Do you support him as a teammate? Then while he's here like how do you go about doing? He's got his job settings professional. I hope he doesn't show. A pretty simple sport back year old field towel. No. That was a that was a perfect answer from Baker very tents. He's he's not. He's not add anything extra to it. I mean he just came out and said he wanted to trade. Now, these rumors Freddie kitchens to said that he wants him there and that is a good player. Doesn't know where these trade talks came from and the thing, that's interesting. Is he was behind Nick job on the depth chart already, then they added Kareem hunt hunt is not going to be there for pretty long time. But when he comes back that might push Duke Johnson back, even further and do Johnson feels like he is a number one running back somewhere starter, and he doesn't feel comfortable with his particular situation now, which I'm fine with anyone who wants to take control of their career do what you need to do. Can can we run the Baker bite? Again. John, see if you sent tension here, joy says, she didn't see anything her intuition. Let let's watch this again. Watch baker. Does he seem tense and about ready to erupt? Understand the nature of the business. I'm saying you know his job. Well, John Dorsey job is to do what's best for the team. No, relation I and again, that's getting rid of meet up bigger piece in the piece. I'm okay with it. It is what it is. It's not awkward for anybody else. Support do you support him as a team while he's year? Like, how do you feel about doing that? He's going to do his job settings a professional. I hope he does his job. Yeah. It's a pretty good answer. Anytime you say it's not awkward. It's obviously awkward well, I think bakery, gave the right in the reporter asked him if it was going to be awkward. Yeah. Yes. So he kind of put it out there that might be awkward. It's awkward when someone asks for trade. Oh, I don't think do Johnson has a point. He's like, listen, man. I'm a starting back for like twenty teams. I'd like to play. I'm not gonna play here. Right. The only thing is this is more Cleveland noise. This day are noise. I can't argue with you. There is more. It is definitely qualifies as noise, joy with the news. Well, that's the news. Thanks for stopping by the heard line news. Well, I just got a very interesting text. He always do this, right. During the show. Okay. From a massive NBA newsmaker. Okay. Newsmaker. As a source of yours. Oh, this is a great source. This is good as sources get. Well, he even he even used an emoji because he knows. I like him. Oh, jeez. You're an emoji guy. I like yeah. Emoji emojis, onto adds significance was her Goto emoji? Thumbs up. That's just pretty good or fist-bump. Okay. See you like you like to put emphasis on my exclamation point. Listen, I like to be lit, I like to be cool. Remember the where to earlier, we learned turt-. Yes. There. What does that mean? What does it mean? Come on. Tell me what to me. I mean just like it's similar to lead. I is going to be a level. Okay. This, this text is turned. It is a turnt tax. Can you tell C a million? She is. It's a funny emoji. It's a guy going gets m j shroud, it's the MD shrug I will say this. It it's, it's in regards to the Anthony Davis story. Let me think about it. I can't I don't wanna say something that's inappropriate and I get my source in trouble. So let me just okay, Daryl, you wanna steal. When I get turned, I get crazy Cray. Okay. Corey brewers around. We've never had it on the show before Corey brewer. He was on that Mavericks team that upset LeBron in the finals, good defensive player Corey, it's been around the league, he'll be on the show. Be sure to catch live editions. The heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific, by the way, there's just came down. Kevin Durant not available to the media today, which would tell you he's not practicing which would tell you, he's not planned tomorrow. Klay Thompson is scheduled today to talk to the media, which would tell you he is playing so if clay compla-. I like Golden State's chances Corey brewer has played twelve years in the NBA. He was on the last great college team at Florida a joke him Noah yourself, Al Horford, they went back to back titles, played UCLA in both those final fours and you guys came back. You are all pros. And you came back that doesn't happen anymore. Why did you come back? You could have been drafted. You could have made money. Why did guys come back? We're having too much fun. And you know you win win championships. Why not try to win again? That's why everybody talks about the ways when you win. And you're winning. It was fun. It was fun. We're having a bus. Yeah. And that was to me. That's the last great college basketball team because NBA guys all came back. It you got the veterans. You've got the great coach. Billy Donovan, by the way, you played for everybody. And you've played for interesting team. You are in Oklahoma City, a couple years ago with Westbrook. You've just played on the Lakers. So when you were on the Lakers, they had magic and Pelinka, and then we'll rumors. It wasn't great. And then in the end we find out man. It wasn't great. Did you sense Corey that it wasn't good? When you were playing. I wouldn't say Cynthia wasn't good, but I just I just thought it was different. You know, but they were both new at the job. So you they're above lying. I thought they, they were just lying like rob goes from being an agent, the president or been the gym, and, you know, magic had been enjoying his life, you know, he has a lot of great businesses. So it was just a different dynamic when I got there, the criticism, I have on the Lakers. I don't know who's calling all the shots. You've played for well run teams and some dysfunctional teams, I think Oklahoma city's pretty well run team great. When you played with Houston. I don't remember if they were well run or not where they they're. They're good. Okay. So you were there with the Darryl do, they're good at what he does. Yeah. Very smart guy when you were with the Lakers this year. Listen, did you sense LeBron's coming in? There's trade rumors, did you send at one point man? There's a lot of noise was a lot of noise. But, you know, anytime you can get a talented LeBron. You know you have a chance to win. But then the trade along with all that stuff that went down. It was it was. A little weird for me. Because those young guys are good kids. So it's hard to put him in a situation where we're gonna trade, all you, like, how do you play basketball like the let's talk about that. What was it like for young guys nineteen year old guy, you're gonna get traded? What was it like for man? I think it was tough. You know, I've been twelve years. So I like when I was young and then also been out of the play with those guys like I know Brandon, Brandon the great kid, he's going, he's going to be really talented online. So I was really good kid, all those guys, Josh heart other guys, great kids. So thank you, til til the kid. Yeah. We probably probably gonna get traded. You know I like it freaked them out, but we still got he's still got a play play your best, but you probably would get it. I think it was tough on those guys. You know did LeBron it was a weird team. A lot of young guys. Then a lot of one year contract guys, you got crazy. Lance javale McGee. He got LeBron was at one of the more interesting locker rooms she'd been in. I wasn't there with those guys there with all those got. No, no those go with Joe year before with all young young, you for so. I think it was interesting. I could I can only imagine what their locker room was, like, you know, guy like Ron does a great guy. I think he took those young guy then wing he didn't chance. But he, he helps them. I think he had them going, the right direction, but still everybody talks about the Lakers like that they were to foresee before LeBron is hurt, you know, Bryant of your hair. You are. We still having this conversation. A good point. Yeah. So Doug Gottlieb moa says they were a four seed. Lebron got hurt. Let, let me ask you about a couple of things happening right now. So we have a bunch of free agency stuff. Jimmy Butler could sign and make more money in Philadelphia. But maybe he doesn't wanna live, there, coli could sign with a Toronto and make more guaranteed money. Take me into the mind of an NBA player. You guys all know it doesn't last forever. Talk about Paul George stated, okay? See over. L A. Could you give up a guaranteed thirty million dollars a year? Personally no way. But I know those guys are on contracts, like money's crazy. But I think it's about the situation those guys to be in like, what situation do you want to be in, because they have their choice? They're going to be a superstar. So what situation, do you want to be in what mattered Corey brewer joining us what mattered you the most, if I said winning or money. And by the way, don't feel guilty about either. I always feel like when you're young, you want the money, and then you're old, you want to win because you got your money if I said to you the two or three things as a free agent that matter, do you does a coach matter. Does the city matter to the taxes matter for me the situation, it would be like the team they win. And I wanted to win always this go. No, you go to college you went to a national championships. You know what it's like to win. You still in the win. I'd say, you know, money's great like you say when you're young when I was young I wanted to give aid. So once I got my first contract to your. Hey good is all about now. I want to be in a good situation where I'm happy. You wanna play for a team. You have your plan with you want to be in the city. You're happy. What do you make of you have this dynasty in Golden State? They're all beat up. It's like it's like a lot of dynasties Corey, they're falling apart. They have one more. Big punch in them. I kind of feel like Golden State will just sort of figure out a way to win in the last several years you've faced this Golden State team. What we all know they can shoot what, what tell me what it's like to play a dynasty, their confidence their players, what, what is underrated about them? The confidence. I think the confidence is the biggest thing for those guys. They feel like they're they're always going to win. So they're never out of the game. So you can be up twenty going into the fourth, and they feel like Steph makes couple of threes or Klay mice couple of thirty. We're gonna win anyways. And I think when you got that type of confidence it's tough to lose your at known as a guy that played real defense. You're very good defensive player, if you ever get matched up on Klay Thompson. What's he like to guard? He's so tough because he's always moving, and the way the way he can't shoot catching shoot the way you can sit and it doesn't take him long to get out of hand. So for me, I just try to stay in his pocket, if he catch at the wall, and he had the chance to go in when whenever he shows it wherever you should we ever get matched up on staff a lot, and they talk about gardening staff and try to get the ball within because like I said Steph gets the ball in his hand, he's gonna get screens, or he's gonna run off screens and it's just tough. What do you make of Golden State's like thirty two and two? When Kevin Durant doesn't play. Now. A lot of people say they're not better. But the offense is different. They're not better. But it's different. So they're good. They're great one, Kevin plays. They're guy when he doesn't play because they, they know how to just like guys step up. Dream on greens a fascinating player in the regular season. The average is seven seven seven then his numbers all double for the playoffs t you when you're on the floor would dream on green. What does he provide for them? What makes him special? He's the hardened Foz, do you think so of course this he plays? He plays so hard in all the little things he does that. Don't show up in the by score. He's taking charge. He's guiding the best players. He's rotating defensively he pushes the pace when he rebounds, he knows those guys can choose. So he he can pass. So he's like the point forward. He's just he makes them go. I want to go back to the Lakers. The story today is Anthony Davis. And his agent Rich Paul. I think Anthony Davis has the power here because Anthony Davis reportedly wants to play for the Lakers Knicks clippers. He's not interested in Boston. So let me just ask you. If you ran the Lakers today and you want to get LeBron second player and the pelican said, okay? We want Lonzo coups and Ingram. And you said and I get to keep one you're not you don't get all three. I'll give you draft picks. If you were the Lakers in had dick, keep one of the guys for the next seven eight years of the young guys, which one would you again? Pelicans one all of them. You're running the Lakers. You gotta keep one. Who would you keep going forward with LeBron? You get me. Who? That's a tough one. You know, I'm a huge Colin Ingram fan Lonzo too. But if you got to keep one you already had LeBron you bring Anthony Davis. She had a monkey Lonzo just because you need somebody to pass. You need a point here for those guys somebody to get Anthony Davis. The Boston as gillibrand the ball, you know, brand is going to be great, but he needs the ball because he can really score includes my. He's a score. That's what they do, by the way, Paul George stayed in. Okay. See instead of going to the Lakers because of something you told him what was it? Everybody keeps saying, I didn't really tell them anything. I did. He asked me questions. I ask you what did they ask you longtime ago? I don't even remember Cory Cory Cory. I need an answer. Corey give me an answer. What did you, did you talk about money a little bit? I'm fine. It's forty five million fifty million if you're happier. Why would you give up forty five fifty million? That's crazy. He is. You know, personally I got kids to another forty five fifty minutes, a lot of money. Yeah. Especially in okay? See, you can eat it Applebee's virtually every night of the week every enjoy every night of the week Corey, good luck to you. Javale McGee, by the way, is on our show. I'm told tomorrow and then and also the Cleveland Browns are officially making noise. I just heard more of Baker Mayfield. Holy moly, Cory great meeting, you. We'll see you tomorrow in LA. 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