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Steelers Friday: How Chris Boswell and the Steelers kicking game will be even more special in 2020

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Steelers Friday: How Chris Boswell and the Steelers kicking game will be even more special in 2020

"Pittsburgh steeler fans. It's finally Friday and you have stumbled upon hopefully you haven't stumbled upon but you have found. The Pittsburgh steelers show for Friday four, the behind the curtain family of PODCASTS, and my name is Brian Anthony Davis and I am glad to be here with you all today to be talking about my favorite thing and yours the Pittsburgh steelers. But first, we have few announcements to make. It has been a very eventful week here behind the steel curtain and lots of changes coming to our family of podcast also www dot behind the curtain dot com. So if you have how chance to take a look at the blog site today, you may have seen an article from. Former behind the curtain editor Jeff Hartmann. Called the walk of shame well. We gotta take former off of that. So I would like to welcome back Jeff Hartman to the behind the curtain family podcasts and the website is well. Welcome back Jeff Hartman as the senior editor. And David Scofield remains as the editor of behind the curtain as well. So really exciting news to welcome Jeff Back. Now I have some news that's not as exciting for me because. You know welcoming Jeff back really excited about and really excited about how we are going to revamp everything here. But I do want to make another announcement and that is my very good friend who is usually in this spot lance. Williams has decided to no longer podcast with behind the steel curtain and we wish him the very best lance stepped away and he's taking care of some business right now. And I have to say that I have been with behind the curtain for five years and Lance has been here a whole lot longer than that and doing the standard is the standard and Yeah I said it as well as the show on Sunday whether it be the homer, the hater the steelers postgame lance has been an amazing colleague. I will completely miss him especially on the Mike As. I had a great time. And I. Have a lot in common as far as you know our age grownup up in western Pennsylvania our love for the steelers and our love for pop culture as well. So I wanna wish Lance Williams the very best I hope to be doing shows with him in the future as well because the door is always open to my very good friend, sir. Lancelot. So Lance, thank you very much for everything that you have done in your legacy here at behind the curtain. And with that being said, we are going to in honor of Lance. We are going to retire the Wednesday show called. The Standard is the standard we're going to go ahead and come up with a new name for that, and we are also going to retire the name. Yeah. I said it and the reason I can't imagine anybody else saying, yes, I said it with the conviction that Lance did I. You know I think it was an absolutely fantastic show and a fantastic concept and only I want to hear that only Atlanta's voice. So with that being said which. Field has joked that that could be the name of my new podcast. My my cash, raise us all the time with that being said. So we will no longer have a said or the standards, the standard but coming up, there's GonNa be lots of changes where. This News Khaimah with Jeff, coming back and. Your subsequent but not. Be completely away from the fact that Lance was other jeff was coming back and Lance. It just happened to fall in the very same a couple of days so. With that what's going to happen is we're GONNA do some revamping here like a total makeover. steeler style. That's exactly what we're GONNA do. So you're going to hear Jeff again, he will be back on the steelers preview I'm going to try to coax him to do some more shows as well in. We'll be talking about that and also you're going to be hearing a little bit more from a some favorites that you know and love maybe in some different roles. Tony. Deputy will be here as always in also. Michael Beck. Michael's GonNa Michael. So good. He's GonNa get his own show. So that's something we're going to work on his well. We will have more of the logistics. If you have any ideas for some show names, we're GONNA come up with those two but you know you're part of the BTS's family. So we want to hear from you as well. So like I said, we have Tony. With the steelers Brunch on, Saturdays you're still going to hear from big BRO SCO and Scofield, you're going to hear a little bit more from Jeff Again, myself in Jeffrey Benedict is going to join us as well as we have some great ideas for some new concepts for shows, and there's a lot of things. Over the last twenty, four hours swirling in my brain of me trying to figure out what we're GONNA do as the podcast producer here at behind the curtain. So is going to be plenty of excitement. So stay stay tuned. Because we are going to have the same quality steeler content that we always have. So, with that. As Dave Scofield says. Lots of the same plus more. So there you go. We're really excited. Robert Zecevic says. Beckon Black Beck and black. I like that. Michael Beck does something like the he does his open mic show that he's had before actually it's not open mic it's live Mike I want to call it Mike. Just. In my mind. But we we could There's so many things that we could come up with, but I want to move on and we can cut talk steelers because we are inching closer and closer to the two, thousand, twenty NFL season and anything is possible. That's the thing. It's going to be really interesting season we are going to see Saturdays Sundays where we're going to yoga turn on behind the curtain look at it and say, Gosh, who tested positive. Or who is going to be in the starting lineup? So there's going to be a lot of late breaking news in the the guys that do the breaking news at the site are probably like, yeah, there's going to be breaking news. We're going to be busier than ever and so it's going to be the most interesting season. And you want to look back at two, thousand and nineteen. In two, thousand, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, how there were a lot of changes and they were all good. But it seems the way it was shaping up in the work that Kevin Colbert Omar Khan Mike Tomlin. The Rooney family everything that was done. is going to shape what's going to happen in the twenty twenty season. But something happened. A resurgence. Might I add has happened and that happened in two thousand nineteen and that was none other than Chris Boswell Chris Boswell I mean. Justin Tucker gets all the press in he gets all the accolades as he's probably one of the few hall of fame worthy. Kickers in the League right now but Chris Boswell. Came back. With a fantastic season as what we can only call an aberration the year before and not a good one. Two thousand. Eighteen Boswell the wizard of Oz he. His one wasn't working as well and when I'm saying is wand I'm talking about his kicking leg. and. So the wizards just. Wasn't connecting. It was a it was like, let's just say if this was hogwarts than the dimensions got to him in two, thousand, eighteen, sixty, five, percent cash even the extra point game was off, he was thirteen for twenty. It was just not a good year at all and a lot of people lost confidence in Chris Boswell. Here's a good thing though Chris Boswell did not lose confidence in Chris Boswell and that is the most important thing. Chris Boswell came back with a vengeance ninety three point five percent kicking percentage. He missed two one was from way out I. Think it was a fifty, four, fifty, five yarder and wind that. Didn't have a chance. But I can't remember the other one that he missed but I think it was extenuating circumstances as well. He was twenty nine for thirty. One only missed two kicks. He was perfect on extra points. Baas really came back. There was a lot of talk. In two thousand eighteen and even after the season in the preseason for two thousand and nineteen that maybe they need to start looking elsewhere. But the talk swirled back to the fact that. Even, though he wasn't talking and he wasn't disclosing, but it almost seems there's been a lot of speculation that there was something wrong with his kicking leg he was injured. It just wasn't the he just wasn't connecting because if you look at the man's career his career, he was an eighty seven percent kicker and you've got to look at two thousand eighteen how that really knocked down his percentages well, he was in the nineties he would have been in the nineties without that horrible two thousand, eighteen season but the guy was one hundred and twenty, seven for one, hundred and forty six. So that's nineteen kicks. That, he missed in five season. And seven of them were in that two thousand, eighteen season Sean Monahan is saying two thousand eighteen Baas was most likely injured I agree. Mark Davison. The man from down under and you know I always say that I I've got to say that. But I'll tell you what? From a man from Australia Mark Davison guests to a lot of games too. So Arc. In Pittsburgh. That's that's pretty amazing. So mark. As. Well in you know I wanNA give a shout out to mark for steeler nation down under steeler nation Australia on facebook. Really Cool facebook page. So check that out. That's a really good group to as well. I like to jump in there and just read it every once in awhile. Boy I tell you what it's like the steel city down under they've got a lot of passion for the Pittsburgh steelers and that is you know it's amazing to see how global this team is, and you know there's only a handful of great global teams and the steelers are definitely one of them Not, you obviously jumps in the show first time I've been able to watch the live show. How y'all doing not you obviously doing pretty good and glad to have you on the live show but I wanna bring up something that he said. So obviously, not you obviously. Is a good fan of the show, but he doesn't have an opportunity to show up when we're doing it live in the contribute. That doesn't make you any less of a fan of the show that means you're a fan of streaming behind the curtains family a podcast, and that's a really important thing because if you're driving in the car in, you've got that commute. You don't want to be looking at this face. This face is gonNA cause an accident so you don't want that. So download US you know what? Listen to me yapping about steelers while you're mowing the lawn you've got your pa I'm sorry let airports Gosh. 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Oh and just because I'm lazy I can't say not you obviously I can't continue to say that but thank you so much for being a fan of the show also want to say a little. Thank you. To Ireland John McCain in Ireland with the the pink Floyd's dark side of the moon. There too. Don't think I notice that Big Pink Floyd Fan Man I. Tell you what if you don't Know Pink Floyd Music and you just WanNa be sometimes I like to be in the dark or like right before a nap which I get many naps lately. Really don't but it's so cool to go ahead and put something like pink floyd on whether it be. Here or dark side of the moon. That's just great. soul-searching music. So a really cool. John McCain thank you so much for checking us out. I am not going to try my Irish accent even though I have been the Ireland nine, hundred, six I marched in the Saint Patrick's Day parade in Dublin and Galway when I was A. I was in high school, my freshman year of high school and the recent high school marching rams had a chance to be in those braids. It was pretty awesome. So. You know. Kissed the Blarney. Stone to. and. That was a really cool thing. So I've been the Ireland, but it's been a long time I gotta get back there. But if I try that accent, you guys are GonNa just crucify me in the live chat, my Australia accent. is a really bad. So I'm not even GonNa try the Irish accent I know. I tell you what if you throw if you guys raise about fifty dollars in the in the super chat, I might give both of them a world by the end of the show. So that's your challenge I know you're not gonNA that up. But if you guys come up with that, I will completely embarrass myself and. I I might even. Sing some U2 and well actually that's not incentive you don't WanNa. Hear me sing but let's get back to the wizard of boss and when I hear what you're saying in the live chat. How excited are you? For Chris Boswell this year. and. Really. The title of this show is how Chris Boswell in the sealer kicking game is going to be even more special in two thousand twenty. So. Here's why. It's going to be even more special. If you remember back in two, thousand, seventeen season. Chris. Boswell. One about. Five or six games. With his leg. Teams like the Green Bay packers with Brett Hundley in there and not Aaron Rodgers. And Brett Hundley was taken into them. And that was even before Shazia went out. But Chris Boswell had a make kicks at the end of that game at the end of a lot of games and if he missed them. That team that was thirteen and three. Could have very easily been seven to nine. That's how important he was that season Mark Davison saying the wizard is cool calm and clutch the three, cs? You know. You know you gotta find another see if there was a bread crumb, an ice tea way back in the eighties and nineties called foresee and it's funny I always I was paid attention to that because it was the official ice tea of the Davis family and I made my family go out and and get that. Mark Davis. Also says the wizards beat the chiefs on his own going six for six in the playoffs in eighteen to sixteen game? No touchdowns it's was all Baas not you obviously says I think Baas. Is GonNa have his best year this year it seems that way that year was behind him. In Baas he just said, Hey, I didn't kick. Well, he never blamed it on an injury and everybody is pretty sure he had an injury. But he never blamed all he said. I'm going to get better have to get better end of story. It was almost like, I mean he was embarrassed to talk about it. I don't think he knew how to talk about it. But he led his foot, do the talking and he came back. He was all heart. He kicked like crazy that year last year. And, if boss was just a little bit better on one of those kicks or if he wasn't hurt that's That's a much better season last year. But imagine the games that they wouldn't have won if Baas wasn't on last year with everything that went wrong Baas and the defense were one of the few things that were right. Send Your Slim I. Just Love Saints Senior Slim Oh. Yeah. I remember that year I was calling for the ball on first down when we would get into range that's I mean and you didn't have to worry about a long kick either sending your slim you didn't. Mark Davison asked. Mark, you have the headphones. Let's let's just put you in the. Let's put you on the show to it could be Davidson Davidson. And? Let's see. Bad and down under. We'll come up with a better team not gonNA come up with better titles that Yeah Baas did throw a touchdown baas threw a touchdown that year probably one of his best plays in two thousand eighteen when he threw a touchdown strike to. Probably one of the biggest receivers to catch a touchdown for the Pittsburgh steelers. I'M GONNA. Unofficially say that that. That touchdown that PAS through against the Denver broncos to all hundred Villanueva was probably the shortest man. Ever to throw a touchdown to the tallest man on the same play. So that's that's what I'm thinking they're too. Unfortunately. That that game up in a loss. But. You were talking about Chris Boswell in how he can be so special for the Pittsburgh steelers this year. I like the look of the steelers special team. But you look at the fact that Baas is going into his six year. He very well could have been an all pro last year with the way that he kicked. Yoke. Mr Justin Tucker. Can't stand the guy just because of the helmet he wears and that's it. But how you would love to have that guy and the steelers were one of the teams that were. Were really high on them and actually. Trying to sign him as a free agent and he went to He was a better fit with Baltimore and he was absolutely amazing but Baas. Could have been selected over Tucker in fact. Pecker have a bad year last year but boss had a better year. But that's that's exactly who. I mean you know pedigree gets you pro bowls in all pros and? You looked. You looked at a guy who had a rough season on our own team work eastbound C. had a rough season last year. He got four all pro votes so and it's funny. Sometimes, reputation can get you approachable which Marquee Scott which I think. Talk as well too but he overlooked a great season by Chris Boswell. Chris Boswell is going to have a lot of opportunities this year too. and. There's going to be plenty of opportunities. I think this team's GonNa score a lot more. He can very well have a norm Johnson type season where he scores hundred and fifty some points remember when norm was doing that in nineteen, ninety, six and nineteen ninety-seven. Man. He was money I. Think is offense is GONNA put up a lot of points, but they're still going to have a lot of field goals because it doesn't matter if you are a team that scores A. You're still going to score a lot with field goals to 'cause you're just in scoring range more you're putting less. You're kicking more. It's a beautiful thing. Send your slim says if I recall his only to Mrs One was bobble snap and a fifty, two yard at home. So yeah, you build me out on that I thought it was like a fifty four yarder and I think it was a fifty four yarder. From. That mistake against the Miami Dolphins and It was pretty rough. It was the weather was was rough off the s Dave Scofield. Who was actually at that game. I think that's that's the one that it was so. Robert Events. Love. Bob Sas. Bob Sas but I would I'd be like, Hey, I'm Bob. SAS was her name. is, really good wouldn't trade him for Tucker. I WANNA trade Boswell for Tucker I would have in two thousand eighteen. I didn't know what? We know now. There's a lot of things in my life that. I wish I. Knew then what I do know now. Man Can you imagine some of the things that? If. You knew. Then what you know now how you would change it, it would completely destroy the space time continuum. So you've gotta be careful on that but. Man. There is a Saturday night live in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, seven that always. I always Remember there was John Larroquette. Who I was just talking to my son about John Lark. The my son's about turned thirteen and he was watching. What was he watching? He was watching the parks and recreation and I heard this voice and it was John Larroquette and I was explaining to him the brilliance of John Larroquette from Night Court from the movie blind date I mean just a brilliant actor and I was telling him about. About night court but he was also on. In, this movie with Kim Bay Singer called blind date. And at the time. So he was he was promoting the movie on Saturday night live and he played a character that in the sketch died. and He. He was at the gates trying to get in and he was talking to Saint Peter and they were saying. They were saying to him. All these things that he didn't know. And he found out all the women that one of the in high school The professional wrestling was actually real and all these secrets of life and so imagine if you knew all that crazy stuff what you could do with it but then you need a time machine map to go back in time and like I said that space time continuum we saw how bad it was in the back to the future I mean dude almost may not with his mom that that's a bad thing. So you don't WanNa go there but anyways, it's Friday, we're having fun. We're talking about the steelers and we're talking about Chris Boswell. How excited are you for? Chris, Boswell. Sean Monahan says best for baas hundred, twelve, hundred, twelve, four, one, hundred, twelve for extra points. No field goals attempted. So could you imagine that? That's one hundred twelve touchdowns scored by the Pittsburgh steelers they're breaking all all type of records of that happens everybody goes to the pro bowl on that. Wow. That would be absolutely amazing. ACQUA NBA wants to see the dog who is barking. Dude. I've got three dachshunds. They're the yappiest things in the world I love them. They're really cool. Now there are the names of the dachshunds they're named after Harry Potter characters but my first dachshunds who lost in the last couple of years one was named Pamela Davis and the other one was Hines Ward Davis and So I just lost out this time. When it was time to rename the. The replacement dogs you can't calm replacement dogs. That's rude. But anyways. They're all family but. We're dachshund family in their completely yappy. They're just singing the song of their people. So anytime, someone moves row. either. They're. Awesome. So. Chris Boswell I want to hear your thoughts in the live chat. Let me know. Let me know what you think and am I off I. Think Chris Boswell is going to win for the Pittsburgh steelers four games this season with his leg alone. Because it doesn't matter how great. The. The offense is. It's GONNA come down to it with there's a lot more parody. In the League but I know. You can call me out on this. Because I said, there's going to be less parody in two, thousand twenty because of Covid, I think there's going to be a lot more foreign twelve teams. I think he's going to be a lot more twelve and four teams and less eight, eight, and seven and nine. So I'm going to continue with that but there's going to be games when the offense. And we haven't really seen Ben Rothlisberger offenses in the last few years. Dominate where they've got twenty point leads to sitting on it. There's a lot of games. So. That's what I'm thinking. It's GONNA come down to Bosley again. But I have complete confidence. So where is your confidence level? As far as Chris Boswell, goes as well and am I just drink in the black and gold kool aid. How cool black and gold colours be. It would him I mean it would just, I. Mean Black and gold colour. Maxim together just like Brown. So maybe that's not a good thing but you know it would taste steely. Good. AJC DID Boswell get high ratings in Madden compared to other kickers. You know what? We have A, we have some guys on the site that do a fantastic job with madden. I, don't follow it. You know why I don't play Madden and it's not because. I'm approaching fifty. It's because. I'd be an addict. I remember when? Super. Bowl was out. Man. I played well, I was I was a bachelor at the time, but I would stay up all night playing my son wanted I mean we were at a target and I think. Patty. Mahomes was on the cover of the new madden and he's like, Hey, we could get it for twenty bucks. You play on my xbox I'm like dude, you would never see your xbox again if I got mad. But, then I'm surfing through facebook the other day. They've got this little device. Now that you could plug into your TV, that's a whole bunch of Nintendo. Super Nintendo Games. In Tech Mobile's on it not just tech mobile not talking Bo Jackson Tech Mobile they showed a little thing I looked up in the corner and Slick Stephen Gostkowski so they've got new players. They have a they have recent players in it now. So it's updated. So I want I get an opportunity to play Ben Rothlisberger on technical. My luck is going to be dot com, but That'd be so cool. So I sent a little. I tag my wife in it. I just wrote hint hint my birthday doesn't enough for a while she's got a gift like that. So I'm hoping I can get that if not. Lunch at you guys could buy it for me and then. But then again, I wouldn't do any podcast because all I would be doing would be playing that. Patty man thinks that. All right I I don't is that a beer hat a frosty mug hat or I can't tell whether he's dressed as the pope in that and that you can't see it if you're streaming. But that is the most awesome hat I love that picture patty man. Patty man is not sold on the wizard of Baas. This year he's Ray finkle material choke choke if you don't know laces out places. Out If, you don't know that who is Ray finkle. For the Miami Dolphins fictionally from the nine, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, four, classic. Ace Ventura pet detective. Ray finkle and Ray finkle had. A bone to pick with Dan Marino luck. This is where the movies fiction you don't have gone. Marino as your place kick holder you're never going to do that, but it's still a fun movie. And I've been kicking around buying the Ray Finkle Jersey 'cause I like. I like crazy jerseys I wanNA Shane Falco Jersey I'm actually wearing. This is not a steelers Jersey. This is A. Steph the Georgia Vich. Jersey, from all the right moves filmed my hometown of. Pennsylvania in nineteen, eighty three and I was actually at the game I was eleven years old watching that in the stands, you can't see my my little face in the stands but it's a lot of fun Patty man says. October fest hat years ago I also wear doors dealers gains. To that's awesome. I disagree with you on the Finkel thing but. Great reference a love it and. That's awesome. John McCain he's going to he's going to rate his players, Tucker Lambeau than Baas. Lambeau I mean that was a guy a couple of years ago. That you really weren't thinking about in the he has really been money as of late so. There we go. Sean Monahan saying lots of heart for Boswell. He does have lots of heart this Texan. He is really special. I really think he's going to make the steelers more special this year and I think he's going to continue to be money. In Two thousand twenty money twenty. I know it's twenty, but money and twenty. That's what I'm saying about Baas. How much is nine worth lots of money in twenty? Gosh, can you imagine if I drank because if I was wearing the hat in October fest with Patty man because I don't drink in this is the reason drink because I'm just a Giddy? Dude? But Man I want to go to October fest with Patti man now. or I want to go to. Main. I really WANNA go to Mardi gras one year, but then might be the last you see of me. Cash. Would that be dangerous if the steelers ever make the Super Bowl again in Louisiana they've been there nine, hundred, seventy, five, nineteen, seventy, four season. But if they were making it again. I need to go I had tickets. To. The Super Bowl after the two thousand and one season and then. Gosh Troy. Edwards, steps out of bounds against the Patriots and the championship game I was there I had takes the Super Bowl. Some butthole when blue and red sat in my seat because they went. there. Just, may October fest is canceled? Everything's canceled but we need you know what we need. We need the NFL season not to be cancelled and keep those fingers crossed. All right with that being said. I'm going to throw. It out the live chat for the next couple of minutes. As we continue on the Friday show. If there's anything that you have to say as we head into the weekend, I would love to hear from you because remember cannot do this show without you guys I'm. Not that I was doing it for the money but nobody through and fifty dollars in the live chat. To See me actually hear me do my Irish accent. So I'm not going to do the Irish accent. I don't even know where I would start. So thank you actually for not. Pygmy money in the live chat, but not a lot of stuff coming in. So let me tell you about what's going on. A BSE the next few days for his podcast go. As I said at the beginning of the show, we will be revamping some things with some personnel changes and tomorrow will be a constant. It's my good friend Tony feel and Tony Deputy will be here with steelers Brunch with twenty. Great musings. So check that out that will be tomorrow right around noon. Then on Sunday. We are going to. Cash I've got to figure out. Sunday. So there's show on Sunday, it'll probably be in the afternoon. I would assume with Michael. Back. But we are going to go ahead and move some things around Monday. You can be back here with. Not The steelers hangover because season other than started yet. But as far as everything else goes. We're going to be contained with the steelers Cuny. I won't be on that show and take a couple of days off get my Huey Lewis on I'm actually not going to see religious but you know I needed a couple of days off. So. What I'll be doing it looks like it may be Dave. Scofield filling in for me as I go ahead and I. Take my boy and the rest of my family away for his thirteenth birthday. Yes. He's becoming teenager the little bad. I'm. Actually, call them see mad because he's Connor Michael Anthony. Davis. So See Mad in water and. And Gosh. Me On a tube in. Whitewater. Probably not the best idea but there you go. Tuesday stat geeks with the Bros. go and then on Wednesday. A yet to be named new show. We're going to have that for you as on the artist formerly known as the standard. We're GONNA come up with something new and then on Thursday the steelers preview as we continue to preview the most. Irreplaceable steeler for each position group. We got a couple of questions I a comment Sean Monahan says we need guys to say healthy no injuries no covert test and will win at all. I like it I think you're right I think it's a possibility. I know I'm a huge homer. But I really think that the planets align just right. Boom raising the trophy. Check this out Kevin Siler who's filling the baron role this year. I still think it's going to be marked Barron. There's something that makes me think that he could still come back. We had some free agent signings this week. When? When the smallwood. He's he's you're running back that it's going to look for a role Curtis Riley the defensive back. They could call baron back I just have that feeling in my gut. Just me says, Jeff is back. Yes. Jeff is back. We're really excited for that. We will be. We will be urging him to rejoin the podcast network. I will say this that you will see jeff again on the steeler preview our flagship show now with Dave Scofield of myself on Thursday nights and we're going to see if we could. Move Jeff some more ideas as well. John McCain says overall special teams Arrow or down I think the arrows up. You know the guy we worry about the most here. Is Jordan Berry from down under. Used to work in a Sydney McDonald's how how cool is that of the late shift at the city? McDonald's I. Bet you that was wild stuff. Okay I'M GONNA. Try It. Could I. Mean. One of them they're mcnuggets made. Okay. That's not even close. But I don't know whether he worked the counter or if he was a fry cook but. Jordan Berry. Lot of people forget he started off really well last year the last quarter of the season probably. Lost his way a little bit more but I mean. Cordless Waldman is going to. He's going to challenge Berry for the role the best punter is going to get that job. Snowman asked is T. J. Watt. Going to get paid next year or in two thousand, twenty one. You have to. He is. I know he's not a quarterback. But. He's the guy that you're going to have to pay. He is the face of the franchise. Sending your slim. Hey, bad. You think Kobe will mysteriously go away after the election. You know that's You know what I'm not a political guy. That's a great question. I really, I. One thing I like to do is I like to keep my politics very close to the vest. A lot of people say that. All's I know is there are reports here and there. I have a I have a son in life that have immunity issues and it's still very much a concern for me If that was a political ploy man I would. I mean. I'd be limited But I don't know. So I'm going to. Fantastic question. I'm just not the guy to ask. Mark Davidson. Yeah. The bloke worked down south in Victoria. Melborn. Really. Interesting I mean. That's really interesting. I mean these guys you gotta understand. These guys are dudes just like us You know it's really cool. You look at a guy that Were number sixty six for the steelers if you watched if you actually don't watch. But if you paid attention to numerous looney or number two uniform in steeler history, sixty, six, Donald Evans took the took a year off in nineteen ninety before coming to the steelers he was working on a loading dock. Then he got back in. and. He was a very important player in that steeler defense. So you know a lot of them, you'll have situations where they're out of the game and are lucky enough to get that break. Some of them are out of the game in never get that callback. We I mean we talk about. Nfl Hall of Famer that was. He was stacking groceries in stocking groceries. That's Kurt Warner so really really. Interesting. Robert SASSA vet. Does Barry Manilow know that you rate his wardrobe. Okay. I love you. Bob Sas you're my buddy I. He has spent manilow right 'cause manilow. Is Awesome. And if you think that be a D- does not know that that quote came from Judd Nelson. In the breakfast? Club. The. Very I spent nine, thousand, nine, hundred ninety eight. On A. On a porch outside of a Gentlemen's Club with. As. He was smoking a cigarette talking about Major League Baseball in one thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, it was it was actually really cool. I had a long conversation about baseball with Judd Nelson huge breakfast club fan huge John Hughes Fan may John Hughes rest in peace but The quote but come on Bob. Sash. You're not going to get you're not going to get a John Hughes nineteen. Eighties, movie reference. Past. Be a the. Lane getting playing time the on the defense. I think Justin Lane. Of course, he's to get back and. Pass the tests. He's going to be back. He's going to be back soon. And I really think Justin Lane. is going to get some opportunities. Here's the thing. You really want to see just lane. You don't WanNa. See last year because that meant that the Nelson floundered and Hayden wasn't worth the money you're one of those guys got hurt. I'm expecting yoke paid and Nelson do have a great season again but just lanes going to get an opportunity he's going to have to battle Cam Sutton. Cam Sutton might be battling Mike Helton as well for play playing the slot but. You know there's there's possibilities that you can see a little bit more from lane I think lane could be a start a starter for the team. But you don't WanNa see a lot of them this year. Maybe, a lot more on special teams. Maybe blowout situations may mean garbage time. That's what I want to see Justin. Lane this year. Mark Davison Mentions Berry. Played for the Australian Football League. The AFL he's done quite well for us. We're proud. Hey, I, like Barry. He's a good dude and. He he had some struggles kicking. He could be worse. Is Myles, Garrett the most hated opponent. Font Hedberg Burford not around. So I. Think. I think myles Garrett is that guy I used to about five years ago now maybe about three years ago I. I had a series where you could vote in of course Birthed one, he was number one with a bullet but I I. I would think that Myles Garrett is probably the number one guy now. Snowman. Gives five dollars to the tip jar. Only forty five to hear me try my Irish accent. Do you think Danny Smith is on the hot seat this year? Yeah. I absolutely do Danny Smith. and. I think Danny. Smith. The Guy who who gave the naked pictures of somebody in the steelers organization to Daniel mccullers because I don't really understand. How he is kept his job I'm sure he's a nice fella and always a pittsburgh native probably a good dude. Just I mean just really really rough. That special teams I really think it could be so much better. I missed the Bobby April days. All right I'm about to be really jealous George test into you meet their hall. Said Daryl Hall was awesome to and I know everybody makes fun of me for my love for John oates and Jeff Hartmann mentions that John oates is the reason the steelers lost against the Jaguars forty five to forty two because he sang the national. Anthem. I'm ever going to forgive Jeff for saying that there are hall I'm a huge Daryl Hall. Fan. So if you met there hall main Gosh I need to see some pictures of that love era hall I got to see hall and oates right before Kovac's probably about two weeks before covid in Hershey Pennsylvania this year I took my son, my twelve year old son. It was absolutely amazing man you met their hall I gotTa hear that story. Send. Your slim. Is it weird that I would rather meet and talk steelers with you bad over any current steeler player you're my favorite. Thank you so much that means a lot. When I do a podcast when you meet me when I find out that your steelers fan I, just WanNa, talk about that stuff because I know how much passion I have for the team and I consider any podcast. I just considered me sitting at a sports bar talking buddies, and that's all it is. You guys are must steelers might be family that's why I love doing this. All I am I'm just some. I'm just some idiot. That has a microphone that has been given a platform. And that's it. Hey, I get. I gotTa do this real quick I'm going to do it. I say this coming up on Tuesday I mentioned this earlier my boy Connor Michael. Anthony Davis is going to turn thirteen and here he is. Here's my best buddy is going to be a teenager. And now she's taking the the headphones from me. So everybody mentioned my main see mad a happy birthday and. Body and I know I'm really loved you go away though. World. steeler. Nation. Not Very Professional. But Hey, I that's what I do. I'm just having fun and you're my steelers family and I wanted to share that with the use of thank you very much. We we had some. We had some TSE birthdays in the last week with family members. Violet scofield turn twelve this week Dave's daughter his wife Janus. I I'm not gonNA say how old she turned because if she's anything like my wife, she'll beat me up. If I mentioned age and Lance Williams daughter turned thirteen as well. Last week. So Lot of a lot of our bts's family members happy birthdays I wanted to mention connor. And You know I appreciate all the love we're getting in in the live chat here. So, anyways, we're GONNA get ready to wrap this all up soon. Mark. Davison wants to twenty twenty one tailgate steelers party. Hey if if we can do that, we're doing it. We're we're going to party like it's Nineteen, seventy nine. Let's see. What do we got here? Robert says its loves the the Breakfast Club. Patty man says I love your podcast especially during dinner sharing by onion rings with the man I. Live in Maryland. And it's my daughter-in-law's birthday this weekend as well. I WANNA shout out to Sydney and So we're going to have we're going to have crab living in Maryland. We're having a crab boil tonight that. I could start smelling it. I mean it I think it's about to arrive. I, hear the family in the background. So cracking some crab tonight. That's great thing about the only good thing live in close to the Ravens I love the state of Maryland. I'm a Pennsylvanian I'm Pennsylvania, born and bred down. In the House but I, love being lender love the crab part I just wish those the. Black and Purple Bruise wasn't wasn't an hour down the road. But I am proud to say that in Jeff Harmon and I share this we were kids field trip are my my daughter and his son. I. Think they were in first grade at the time, and this is when we were just getting to know each other and we're on a school bus and we're going past. MNT Stadium. He's like man every Tomiko past that stadium I flip at the I do too. That's awesome. So I love spreading steeler nation here in a in Maryland and. I definitely do that. Thanks so much. For the happy birthday as mark. Evans. Davison says. We don't care about that was awesome. Snowman turned fifty five, this July fifty, five men I'm close an fifties coming up in two, thousand, twenty, one for me. I can't wait for that. I'm actually excited in it what. See this gray here can't wait I'm ready to go gray I think. You know if a guy could if like a twenty something year old could win American idol Taylor Hicks he was awful but he was completely gray. Can you imagine bad Rock in the gray I can't wait. Till. You scofield release, LA- cracking. I, tell you what? Let's wrap everything up. steeler family lots of great things happening. I really. Appreciate you coming in here my. Family cannot do the show without you. We're going to be making some changes. They're going to be fantastic changes and I can't wait. Spitzer sweet too because once again with. The the man who usually. Has this hour doing? Yeah I. said it. As we're retiree I, said it in Lance has one again Lance Williams. Will Be. Will. Be. Moving on from TSE and we wish him the absolute best. So thank you for everything that you've done behind the still Kurt. My friend. 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Steelers Preview: Breaking down the Steelers vs. Ravens grudge match in Week 4

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Steelers Preview: Breaking down the Steelers vs. Ravens grudge match in Week 4

"Uh-huh. Pittsburgh, Steeler fans welcome back to another installment of the behind the curtain dot com podcast. The Steelers preview and this is a big one. The big one is the Steelers and the ravens week for Sunday night football. It's going to be a huge game and I'm joined with Brian watt. I guess I should introduce myself those. It might be listening for the first time. I'm Jeff Hartmann editor binds joker dot com with me as always Brian, Anthony Davis. How are you tonight? Brian. A, you know what, Jeff, I'm feeling great because it's raven week and I love raven week because it's like, you know, it's like going to your inlaws with your brother in law that you just can't stand to coexist with, and you know you there and you know you have the rival rivalry, you know your son-in-law much better husband than this guy, but you just know that they're always gonna come at you. You wanna be the more than anything, and that is what I'm thinking now. Absolutely. And you know, a lot of people might not know this, but Brian and I both. We live in Maryland. We live in the same town actually. That doesn't need to be said over the air where we live, and it's very difficult being a Steeler fan in Maryland, especially where we live, we're about, I guess you give you a proximity about an hour out of Baltimore, and ultimately there are a lot of Steeler fans. I mean privacy, there's a lot of. Pittsburgh Steeler fans here in Baltimore, come to find out. I'm not from this area and moved here when the Indianapolis Colts the Baltimore Colts left in the middle of the night. Mayflower trucks came and picked him up and they went to Indy. A lot of fans in this area chose to not follow the Redskins. They didn't wanna follow the colts were that angry. And so a lot of them who they watching on TV every Sunday. It was the Pittsburgh Steelers. And so a lot of people became Steeler fans in this area, especially in western Maryland is I will say that I am very happy that there's a lot of fans here. Now, Brian, I didn't talk to you about this before the show, but I wanted to ask you and I'll go ahead and talk about me. I in that wanna get. What is your favorite ravens Steelers, regular season memory and give to think that I think back to a lot of games. Okay. I think back to the the phenomenal game where Troy poem all Lou on Sunday. Night came in and Tomahawk chop flacco arm. And then Woodley ended up picking it up. That was tremendous. I think about Santana homes the catch. Where did he get the? Did the ball crossed the line? Did it not after Ben scrambled? I think about the game where Rob's forget hitting the nose into doesn't ten and broke his nose. They still have come back when I think about the Charlie dach- game when he hit heath Miller, and he Hillard is in his pylon for the w until lassie's knows their last winter MIT Bank stadium. But for me, my favorite Steelers ravens regular-season memory has to be Christmas day two years ago, the immaculate extension as they are now calling it, I guess. And I washed a highlighted that played either day on Twitter in, it's still gives me chills because I, I remember the situation. I remember thinking there's no way they're gonna, throw this pass anywhere near where could be caught and not get in the big in fade route. I'm thinking. That quick out, kind of like the play. They ran of Ryan Switzer on Monday night where it's just a quick out and if he drops it, it's incomplete. They kick a field goal and send it to overtime, Antonio Brown with three guys all over Eric, whittle, rag just poured his facemask extensive all over to me it maybe it's because it's recent. That's my favorite Baltimore Pittsburgh regular season memory. I ask those whether you're watching YouTube now to go into the live chat or comment on this video. What's your favorite regular? She's a memory. Let us know if if you're listening or watching on behind a steel curtain dot com, do the same comments action go down. I wanna know what your favorite Steelers and ravens regular season folks not play us not talking about the playoffs raise Brian. What about you? What is your favorite? Steelers? Ravens, regular season memory. What you know, what are you brought this up? That was the first thing I thought of because what an amazing Christmas that was, I mean, I was feeling amazing. I was watching that gave everybody was around the house, but I was in my jersey with my towel. I was down George, Michael just died. So everyone's freaking out. And then watching that game they were, they were playing terrible. I remember talking to you, you changed your jersey change your at halftime during that game because the color rush benjor's that they were wearing. It wasn't working for you and you got the MO Jo from that. So I remember that being a great game, but when I think of Steelers ravens, one of my favorites is two thousand eight week four. So this is the game where you have no Willie Parker. Willie, Parker's restored. Mendenhall doesn't play that much at all because you know, that's the bounty game the famous Terrell suggs Ray Lewis, putting a bounty on his head in that game. Also also they put one on Hines ward, but they could, hey Hines, but they, they broke his jaw. They broke men in halls jaw, and he was out for the entire season in that game. So it came down to the wealthy more in the world. He carried the ball pretty well. But what happened in that game in the third quarter, it just there was a Santona homes touchdown and the Lamar Woodley. The defense Harrison Woodley broke through Woodley took the ball in two plays. They score two touchdowns. The game went into overtime. Jeff Reed kicked the field goal. They win the game, and that was a huge game getting them to the Super Bowl in. They won the Super Bowl that year. And that was a huge Monday night game. They were stagnant the entire game. They're playing a rookie and Joe flacco and they beat them. They had more trouble than they thought they would like they had his entire time playing in Pittsburgh playing for Baltimore in Pittsburgh in Heinz. Field and they really came through and that was the turning point next week. They'd be Jacksonville, they won on Iran, next thing. You know, it's bend attend in the Super Bowl and they wanted number six. What was the year? You know you were a wealthy more and I thought a mealy for some reason. It's just the way my mind works. I start thinking about other backup running backs that have played a role in 'em easy. I think of Isaac Redman. What year was that is a grad Mun caught that little screen pass spun out of a tackle and ended up scoring the game winning touchdown. You remember that it might not have been a game winning score, but that was a huge turning point. Yes. So that's two thousand ten. That's the broken nose gagging at stake in, and that's that's Paula Malu. It's a Sunday night game in December, and that was a key that was a key game and getting them to the Super Bowl that year to where they eventually lost to Green Bay. Yeah, absolutely. You could go on. We could do an entire show. Just talking about memories between these two teams. On those is because if there's ravens fans listening their thinking about the blow out on opening day, I can't remember what year that was. Maybe two thousand nine or two dozen. Ten eleven is number eleven. Two thousand eleven, and it was a bloodbath horrible Ray rice. Ran all over them. They they'll talk about Bart Scott, almost a cabinet meeting Ben Rothlisberger and that nasty nasty hit. Both these teams has gotten the best of each other. But let's talk about this football Pittsburgh Baltimore in Pittsburgh at Heinz field. I know the John Harbaugh was probably having a connection because he already he always complains about having to play in Pittsburgh on primetime. So let's talk about key matchups here. Brian, you have the one in one Steelers going against the two and one ravens orders match. You. Wanna watch for we'll. We'll list three piece. Give me your top matchup. It doesn't have to be the most important. But one of the three. You don't let me start with Joe Hayden against John Brown. Now less you play fantasy football. The last couple years. You probably don't know who John Brown is, but he did very well for the Zona cardinals came over as a free agent to Baltimore this year when they revamped that entire wide receiver core. And right now he's their top playmaker. They're using him over the middle quite a bit. He is twelve catches two touchdowns in two hundred twenty two yards. And he leads the team and that's on a team with Michael Crabtree who is not having a bad season himself, but Hayden established himself last week as a very indispensable player. We talked about Ben Rothlisberger being indispensable on the offense. I think it's safe to say that Hayden's existence on that team this week on that defense was the difference between a win and a loss because without Joe Haden, I don't think that defense holds up enough to go ahead and win that game, and I'll go as far as. Sing the Joe Hayden against Kansas City. That's a different ballgame because they're, they're going to be going to. You'll keep less teams in the end zone at that point. So Hayden is going to lock down that side against John Brown. John Brown said, goes across the middle. That's an opportunity for the ravens to score, and he's also becoming a deeper threat forum to down the middle. So he could stretch the defense hated needs to lock them down. And I think that's one of the I'm definitely going to be looking at. Yeah, that's a good one. You could probably say the entire second year. I'm going to go a different route and I'm gonna say the Steelers front seven versus the Baltimore Ravens in terms of getting to Joe flacco. Now this is not your grandfather's or eating your father's ravens team. They liked to throw the football bead mentioned the revamped passing attack with Michael Crabtree, John Brown and Willie Snead not to mention some of their tight ends or playing some really good football and Hayden Hearst might make. His debut on Sunday. I did not get to see the injury report today. Nonetheless, they're not the ground and pound ravens that you're used to seeing. I'm sure the check down Joey and Chuck it, deep, Joey, trying to draw defensive. Passer Fearance will still be a large part of their playbook, but this is an offense in the Baltimore Ravens that in terms of overall passing yours ranks ninth in the NFL they are throwing team now because rushing offense of rushing yards per game twenty six. And I said, they're not the team that wants to grind it out there looking to throw the football, it's invoked for the entire league. It's what's trending right now as you wanna throw the football you, that's how you move it. And more good things can have really the bad, so they need to get the flacco. And if you watch the Denver Broncos game last Sunday and I watched a lot of it, they did. The Denver of pass, rush, was able to get the flacco. They were able to cause him to get out of the pocket of the bad thing is that flacco is actu-. Only then very, very well outside of the pocket. I don't have his passer rating in front of me, but I did see on Twitter. Thanks to ESPN's NFL matchup Twitter account. They posted that yards or passer rating outside the tackle box, and they listed the top aide quarterbacks in that area. And Joe flacco was, I think, third. So the Steelers in terms of getting the flacco, they need to keep him in the pocket. It sounds crazy. 'cause we're talking about Joe flacco, but you all we've all seen it when you flacco Kim Bernie with his legs, he can get outside and make plays with his legs and with his arm on the run when you need when you pass, rush, bud, Dupree's, gotta, be disciplined. He can't run the art and lead flacco get underneath, which seems to happen. So many times he needs to stay. Disciplined, pushes, tackle back into flacco force him to step up into the pocket in that is where Cameron Heyward and Steph onto it and eat a Dan mccullers j. Von Hargrave should be collapsing that pocket. They did that a couple times. Ryan Fitzpatrick. They looked good against Ryan Fitzpatrick getting thirteen quarterback hits three sacks. They need to bring the pain on Joe flacco Brian. What's next for you? Well, for me, Jeff, I'm looking at the other side of the ball, and you know, it seems like this guy has been around forever. We talk about Choi, Paula, molars existence in the series the same year that Troy was draft in two thousand three agai was drafted. A few few picks ahead of them named t. sizzle, Terrell, suggs, and you know that guy can still bring it. I mean, the stuff. I mean, I, I can't stand the guy. I never could, but you know that team respects him. I remember, you know, just the other day Ben Rothlisberger called him a first ballot hall of Famer. I've, I've remembered Mike Tomlin in the past, calling him cool of cool and the gang. That's how dangerous they think. This guy is this year, Jeff. He is still bringing it. He has. He has two and a half sacks. Seven tackles forced fumble. He still bringing it. He's dangerous. And we saw the. Problems that JP on Monday night gave Alvin away in coming off that same side big Al has got to account for pieces. So Terrell suggs coming and we've seen them break. Ben Roethlisberger knows before we've seen them just just decimate that offense before in the past. And even as a fifteen year vet going into actually sixteen season, he's still dangerous. So they need Ben to have the game that he had last week. And with the way the Steve fence has been playing, Ben needs to be a three fifty plus yardage guy almost every single week right now until things solidify even more so keeping Ben upright and not getting murdered by guy like Terrell suggs is paramount for album away. So big Al against says is one of my big matchups. Absolutely. I'm gonna go step further. I'm going to stay on that side of the football as well for my. And matchup, and that's the Steelers tight ends versus the ravens defense in multiple ways. I look at the Steelers. I didn't article about the staff counts of last game in I wrote about how the Steelers can finally deploy their two tight end sets, which is something that if you go back to rain defeat time, when he was a coordinator of Memphis, he loved run the twelve personnel. That's one back to tight ends, and they were finally able to do that. And you saw a lot of that. Jesse, James and Vance McDonald almost Plitt kiss, but the snap totals evenly. And then even Xavier, grim will got in the action at times and they even had Chuck's core four came in and he played some of that. You know, you're talking about the the big up front. He might be a designated tight end, but is still a tackle. The one thing I like about that is if they can run two tight end sets, it's going to allow them to chip guys like Terrell suggs is going to help them pass protect her, but it's also going to give them options in the passing game. I'm not sure if CJ Moseley's gonna play in this game or not. He practiced it on a practice on a limited base. On Thursday. Again, I have not seen the injury report on whether he's gonna play. If he does not play, even though the ravens are deep at the inside linebacker position, I think the Vance McDonald and were Jesse. James can abuse the middle because when there's so much attention being given to the outside, we're talking to you Brown. We're talking juju Smith Schuster and even a young James Washington is, do I wanna say that the middle could be open is going to be as gaping open. As we saw Vance McDonald, maybe not the ravens are a better defense Tampa Bay. But at the same time, it's a match up that they can explore dick and move the chains. You go back to those classic batches. When Rothlisberger had heath Miller heath always had big games against the ravens. It just seemed to always work out. There's something about the tight end position and finding those seems finding the soft spots zones and especially in the red zone. That's why I like the Steelers tight ends its match up to watch the Steelers tight ends versus that front seven of the Baltimore. Ravens, both in pass protection, run blocking and as receiving threat. So for me, that's my second key matchup for this game Brian. What is your third and final match for the upcoming game? We know this is not a traditional matchup. This is more of a position versus position matchup, but would you talk about strengths of the Baltimore Ravens for the last seven years? You're talking Justin Tucker, you probably for the last two years, you're gonna throw Chris Boswell in that a question as well. Right now after three games, you're not throwing Chris Boswell in that a question where you had a sore thing. You know of a question Mark so they the place kicking game is very big. In this game. We have seen Justin talker going Heinz field traditionally hard place to kick, especially for the visiting team and he he can hit fifty two yards. Fifty three orders with ease. And you know, when he comes up and you don't have to worry about him whatsoever. Chris Boswell, like we said was the same thing, but now he's having trouble with just extra points. Chris Boswell is also having trouble with field goals. He has one this year. Something's going on. On in his head. He has to get it back together. But the great way for him to get back together is with a big kick against a team like the Baltimore Ravens. Hey, how many times in the last in the entire steers have we seen this game go down to three points. So every single point is precious Boswell has to be perfect. Justin Tucker is going to be perfect, actually you. If you could tell me kicked it, he's missed against the Steelers. I'd like to know 'cause I can't. I can't bring it up in my head. I don't remember him ever missing kick against Pittsburgh. He may have, but that's how money he is, and we need the kicking game to match theirs and then some. So there can be no differential whatsoever. Chris Boswell has to be on just as much as Tucker. You know he's going to be Jeff. Yeah, and to just to talk type of kicker, they if he misses one, you go, Wow. Did add really just happened. He really just missed a field goal and it could be from fifty seven. And even if you miss your, I was really expecting it to go through the uprights. Whereas now Chris Boswell is the complete opposite. If he makes it people like, oh, wow, he just made a field goal or he just made an extra point. It's bad state of affairs for the Steelers kicking game right now and talk about polar opposites when you're comparing Justin Tucker, who is the model of consistency when it comes a field goal kicking and Chris Boswell, who is just if you're a golfer, he's got the in the feud. If you've ever played the game of golf, you know. You know exactly what that is. It's where when you get over the ball, you have no idea what's going to happen. You're basically thinking, is it going to go? Right is going to go left. I. During a bad place mentally when that's happening. The one way to get out of that funk, you think about golfing kicking? There's a lot of similarities, it's it's a pressure packed situation. You only have to rely on yourself really in terms of making the kick, you just have to get through it. You just have to battle your way through it. And so I think Boswell took a step in the right direction on Monday night. I know he missed extra point. I know he missed a field goal. Both of those were off the uprights. The margin of error is getting less. I just all say for me, my final match of is actually two really good friends. People may not realize this and if CJ Moseley is not in the lineup, Ben Rothlisberger versus Eric Weddell, Eric Weddell is the one that will have the green dot on his helmet. If CJ Moseley is not in the game, he'll be the one making the defense of calls and you better believe 'cause they rob Berger and wet or very good friends off the field. And I don't think what since he's come to Baltimore, we hasn't. He's never beaten Ben Rothlisberger. So I think that the mad the chess Nash between those two, the pre snap reads the adjustments made at the line of scrimmage, you'll see what will come up and making changes in Rothlisberger very well could be making changes himself. He could be making dummy changes, which are just bluffs, basically calling out nonsense and trying to make the defense thing that adjusting. He might be sliding protections. He may be changing the place, especially this go up Tempa. That's going to be a really fun match up to watch. Because wells very intelligent Rothlisberger, especially this season has shown that he is more cerebral and it's probably because he has more say in the offense of game planning, but ultimately that matchup Rothlisberger versus Weddell in terms of just how they're going to orchestrate their units. Now, Moseley's in the game, I'm pretty sure the ravens will give him the dot and he'll be the one that's calling everyone around. But if he's not that wet over ses bras, burger, if Moseley's in will say Moseley versus Rothlisberger. A lot of those calls make a huge difference. And I think that's going to be really, really key for this game. So there you have some just very general match ups. If you're listening to this thinking, you know, Brian gave you some very specific ones in terms of teases ultra suggs versus our Elvin away. I give you more general stuff. We're trying to hit on all cylinders here folks. And now we're going to switch gears. We're gonna talk about individual players to watch. We're talking players whether it's ravens or whether it Steelers, I'm going to focus only on the Steelers Bryant wherever he was. Wants players to watch in this game that could have a huge impact on the outcome. We're going to say who they are. Why Brian let you go, I think, is your I will take us your first player to watch this upcoming game on Sunday night football. James, Connor, it's gotta be James. Connor, you know, he's not having a bad season, and I've heard some comparisons in week two and three saying, okay, you're not getting what you got with lady on bell, but look, you don't need to. You haven't the last couple of weeks needed him to go ahead and and get one hundred yard game. He had. He had ninety five purpose yards against Tampa, and he was a pretty big deal in helping close that game down but against a team like Baltimore. Sure. There's going to be a lot of points put up because these teams put up the ravens put up thirty two points again and so you're gonna have to go toe-to-toe with them. But you also want to try to slow it down a little bit in control the line of scrimmage more because they're going to be keying more on the passing game and James, Connor, he can help control this game, but having a solid game, if you can get twenty five to thirty carries out of Connor, you're going to have a pretty good night. It's going to help. Set up the setup the past a whole lot more. Now. It seems to reason weeks. They've been setting up the run with the past, but I think they're going to want to get back to it against the ravens with having the running game helps set up past and and keep them on their toes a whole lot more. And if they can do that, they're going to be a lot more successful. Absolutely need talked about Connor, and this was on our show last night. The standard is a standard when I was did my show with Lance Williams. If you haven't listened to that, I do recommend you go back and it's not because I co host the show. I think it's a very good show, I think is very valuable. You're getting remission. We asked the question because lady on belli's has a number two receiver. I want to be paid. Like number two receiver. In a top running back, we did the numbers and so far Connor, James Connors, averaging five receptions a game. And if he continues that pays, he would end the season with eighty receptions. And so our question was will have more receptions in two thousand eighteen and bell did for this year's and he doesn't seventeen and bell. Finished with eighty five eighty five receptions. So you have to think five receptions a game in this offense is not ridiculous, and having a game where he might have seven or eight isn't out of the realm of possibility either. I think the James Connors proven that he can catch the ball that he can fill a lot of Phil check a lot of the boxes that lady unbelted we wanna see him. I wanna see him gash the ravens because that's what lady on bell did. If you go back to last year, it was week four one save against. He broke out against Kansas City, but he tortured the ravens the following week and he did it again at home at Heinz field. That's what I wanna see. Because ultimately, I think that was leave you on those calling card kindly dantonio homes back at his day, Santona homes, ravens, killer man. If you go back and listen to what we talked about the beginning of the show with these pass match. A lot of them were based around Santana homes with a return or a great catch, and, and so yet James, Connor, I had him on my list. I was waiting to see, you're going to say. I and you did. So for me, I'm gonna go with the guy that's been missing since week one, and that's TJ what I don't know where he went. Where did TJ walk-o has anyone seen TJ watt? Because I've really liked firm to show up at some point. It's not to me says, oh, he gets flexed out a lot. A lot of people make a lot of excuses for for TJ watt and stuff like that, and that's fine. But for me with TJ what I need to see him dominate a few times against someone that's not the Cleveland Browns. All right. That's what I wanna see. Because the last two weeks they played pretty decent, offensive line's really good passers. And the one common denominator between Mahomes Fitzpatrick so far is the amount of how quick they get the ball out of their hands. They don't sit back there and hold onto the football, longtime, Joe flacco will hold onto the football, longtime, if especially he's trying to press it down the field. So TJ watts got to step up and he's got his. Up in coverage. He's got a step up in the run, stopping. He's been solid, run stopping. I don't want to say that, but as a pass rusher in coverage, he has to step up his game. I'm waiting for that signature game. Everyone talks about his performance a week one last year and his performance a week one this year. What's the common denominator? The freaking Cleveland Browns is the common denominator. I wanna see him step up in a big way. I'm talking that Joe flacco force fumble that he had at the end of last season. I wanna see more of that against big in big games against good teams. So that's why TJ what is my first blue? Who's your second there? Brian. Brian's Repin the TJ wide. Very good at says. He's rocking the jurors watch. I like that plays well. Now I'm gonna get a James Connor because I just talked about him. You know what, that's I agree with you on TJ what wholeheartedly. I have. I have been complaining about him dropping back in coverage, but when they game plan for him, he he brings Jeff. So. That's hope. Let's hope they do something and that defense needs the spark for short. So what's your, here's your next player to watch. Oh, I'm sorry. The next player to watch you don't. I'm gonna go with Ryan Switzer. They like to end. He's also he's also my fantasy sleeper here. I'm not trying to go ahead and step on the format here, but kind of guy that that they wanna go ahead and Ben likes them already bents cohesiveness with Ryan Switzer and bringing him in as that fourth receiver, he's made Justin hunter completely irrelevant on that team. I mean, hunter. I mean, everyone thought hunter was gonna be your number four guy. Maybe even sneak up into the number three spot. But with Switzer being out there, they're finding new ways to use him as a runner as on those quick slants he's he's becoming a little Swiss army knife him. I know that was the nickname Jalen Samuels, but this guy Ryan Switzer his become all purpose. He. Reminds me of you just like little guys. We've seen throughout the the league the last few years that could really take over a ballgame. You just don't expect them to. But when Ben gets that report was somebody like we've seen him get that report with Vance McDonald and other players. He really uses them. And once he gets that trust, they're gonna become a weapon. And so with all the weapons that they have on this team, here's a guy that. A defense is going to have to let them go, and they're not going to be keying on Ryan Switzer. But when he's in there, he's going to do something for you. So the more and more we go along in the season, you're going to see him as a bigger part of this offense. So right now, he's kind of a sleeper guy, but he's he's a guy that could be very dangerous to this team and jump out on the statute. It's not going to be amazing. You know, you're not gonna see ten catches for over one hundred yards, but you're going to see him do something big. And as a kick returner as a punt returner PF pro football focus has him listed in the top ten already as a return man. So he's getting it done on this team. He's making a difference already. Okay. So you kind of went into our fantasy segment so we can have cut the players to watch a little bit short and I'll go ahead and give you who I was going to say next for our players watch and it's my fantasy lock now, fantasy football, whether you play the season long game where you and your buddies or you and random strangers get together and you draft and you keep your players and you wash the waiver wire and all that stuff. You might have some of these players on your on your roster already, or you might have to trade for him. These players that are locks are typically not available on the waiver wire. Now, if you play daily fantasy like I do then these players are always available if they're healthy. So for me, my lock in this is kind of going against the grain because he doesn't typically have big games against the ravens. I just feel like he's due in. That's Antonio Brown. And I've been saying for a couple of weeks and you can just feel it. He's winning his one on one match ups. He's beating double coverage, but for some reason, he and Rothlisberger have not been able to connect. You just get the feeling that it's it's it's a matter of time. It's just a matter of time until these to go off and he's gonna pull in one hundred twenty two touchdowns or something like that. If I'm playing fantasy and I have the option frame, Tonio Brown. I'm taking it because it's at home. He's got a lot to prove because he's a aways behind juju Smith Schuster in terms of yardage as a receiver right now, I think he is at two twenty something geez at three fifty. It's a pretty significant margin right now that he's trailing GDP issues during, although he says, I don't care about staffs, blah, blah, blah, yes, you do your diva, wider Seaver. You all care about Sadd's. I think Antonio Brown wants to make a statement and it's on Sunday football aged. Home he wants to play at these guys. My fantasy lock this week is Antonio Brown's, Brian. I hope I didn't steal your thunder there, but what's your fantasy lock of the week? You did, but I can. May I add that I respect your fantasy picks because last week I listened to your fantasy picks and I went in. I've not only did I beat you, but I want our entire fan dole league last week. So little plug. I was first place out of out of ten. Let me let me say if if Kirk cousins didn't crap the dead, I would've had a hell of a team, but he crafted anyways. But Vance McDonald was huge last week, you know what I was looking at your juju being locked this week. Jujubes not really getting the touchdowns. He's getting the yards. He still, he's still a great fantasy play. So you're gonna play guy like like juju, but I'm going back to the well again, like I did two weeks ago, you know Jesse, James, he still going to in a Fanta league when you a daily league when you have to go ahead and pick them up, you're going to get him for a budget of about fifty five hundred or somewhere around there where you can offset a high money guy with a guy like Jesse, James Ben. For bent hit Vance McDonald for that big epic play with a stiff arm last week, but he still going to be looking towards Jesse James, like you mentioned earlier on the podcast. They're looking at two tight end sets somebody's going to be open in Jesse has become so reliable to me that I'm thinking that I would quote a survivor song from nineteen eighty five. I think the search is over for a tight end. I think you just go ahead and sign a guy like Jesse James next year. Bring him back these, your tight end fans McDonald because days the he's your other tight end and you keep it going. But this week you're gonna see a lot of Jesse James with Ben Roethlisberger. He's going to, he's going to soften up the middle and he's going to get open for a lot of big gains. I can actually see an eighty two one hundred yard game out of Jesse. James with one touch down at least throw in about eight catches so you can. Not too good stat line from Jesse, James, I would play them. So you said that's your lock Jesse, James, your lock? That's my luck this week. Holy crap, that that sounds like a sleeper to me, but you're said your sleeper, I'll let you talk about him in a second in case people were just joining us live. I'll go ahead and say my sleeper and some of the you mentioned as a key player to watch and as James Connor look, if you play daily fantasy like we do James Connors points his value in terms of how much cost has gone down as the weeks progress. He was very cheap Ed before week one. He blew up in week one against Cleveland and after week one, he was a very expensive player that is production has gone down so has the price for him. He's a player that I think like you mentioned. I think the Steelers are gonna come into this game with the intent of we want to run the football. We one of us tablets, the run. We don't necessarily want to rely on Rothlisberger throwing the ball forty. Fifty times to win every game. You're hoping that they can sustain dries. Begin attack quick if they have to that, they can also stretch out those drives that are, you know, there's eight minute time consuming drives that are absolutely back breakers. That's what I liked about this Pittsburgh offense by the way, look at the end of the first half against Tampa Bay emitted into change, thinking like minute, fifteen minutes, seventeen. At the most was on the clock. Three timeouts beautiful drive for office for eight for nine touchdown. They have those capabilities. They need to show now that they can just grind it out, get first downs just like they did at the end of the game. I want to. I want this Steelers offense. If people were asking me Jeff, what is your ideal Pittsburgh Steelers offense is that if everyone in the stadium knows what you're going to do and you can still go do it. That's my ideal Pittsburgh Steelers office. And so for me, what they did in Tampa Bay in the fourth quarter, at the end of the game was very impressive. Everyone knew they headed. Run the ball and they did. I understand that you issues to Roth's burger had that big connection, but when they needed a first down, it was James. Connor. He was busted line. I was heavy to see that James Connor sleeper. If you have on your bench, you're not thinking he's going to do much, try AB inserting them into a flex spot if you have him. That's what I would put him on a daily fantasy league. If you have a flex option as for my league, did I set up the Brian's in? I did not put a kick around. I put an extra flex because no one likes kickers anyways, especially me with Chris Boswell with dead Beverly ship right now. But anyways, go ahead, Brian, and talk about your little water bug. Bryan Switzer. Why you think he actually is a good fantasy sleeper, because let's be honest, he's not touching the ball that much. You know what I had premature -cation a little bit ago with, and I kind of. Went to early on Ryan Switzer, but you know what? I think this guy could go ahead and do some things. He's going to break on one of these days, you know, and a lot of leagues we'll give you points for your for any type of score. If it's if it's a score from a kick return or a punt return, he's going to have one soon. I mean, I'm thinking the guy gets about two this year, Jeff. It's possible plus Ben found him for the first touchdown, you know, he's gonna look towards them. They're each week. They're finding more ways to try to use them in practice and he's an extra weapon that they have. So right now, Ryan Switzer if you have to throw in h IPE guy you, this might be a good week for it because this is a defense. This isn't like you said earlier, this isn't your your father's ravens. This is a team that the give up a lot of points. Now they also put up a lot of points now. This. This is a team that this isn't the slobber knocker type defense of game that used to be seventeen thirteen Pittsburgh and Baltimore. This is a game where you're going to see like last year, what was it? Forty two thirty nine the week after on on December tenth of last year. It was just a crazy game in Pittsburgh. Last year they put up almost eighty points combined. You're gonna see something like that. So you're going to see some opportunities for a guy like Ryan Switzer the water bug, like you like to come love that nickname for him, and you know, that's the guy that you can get cheap and you're probably gonna get some points this week. Yeah, the nets. If you wanna go that route, I'm not touching that. Gave it a ten foot pole and fantasy football, but that's just me, you know, you can do. I wanna talk, didn't region our predictions before do that. If you're watching live on YouTube, if you have questions that you want to answer to the end of the show, leaving the live chat. I've got it up here on my phone. I'm checking it. And as scrolling through some of the comments earlier, our good friend, my co-host on the other two other shows the post game show and the standards standard. Lance Williams chimed in with a very, very good point kudos to him tip a cab, my brother, and that is special teams in that the ravens have had to punts blocked already. And so maybe you can see the Steelers going after one. I liked that. I liked that a lot in terms of Jong, not like that guy. So let's go down to some predictions. Let's talk about who we think's going to win who we think's gonna lose, but lemme give you some teams to ticks. I just to kind of wrap your head around things if you're not really familiar with the ravens offense of, let's go down some rank. Ting's offense of yard yards per game, the ravens ranked, thirteenth ofensive points per game. They ranked fifth, they're scoring a lot of points offense, rushing yards per game, twenty six off. It's passing ours per game night. Now let's go to the defensive side of the football defense of yards per game. There I in the NFL passing game their second and rushing yards per game, thirteen. So this is crazy. Okay. They're not running the ball. Well, twenty six breath in the NFL and they're not stopping the run. Well giving of one hundred three point seven yards per game. However, they're keeping people out of the end zone points per game. They're only allowing seventeen points per game as a defense in their offense. We talked about this on our standard is a standard show. Last night has never been stopped in the red zone. Yet this year they're twelve for twelve in the red zone. Pretty impressive stuff there. But Brian, I'm gonna go ahead and toss it to you and give me your prediction and how you see this game playing out. You know what? This is a paramount game for the Pittsburgh Steelers, they're going back home. This should be a win for the Steelers with. Against any other team, but this is the Baltimore Ravens. Joe flacco has never really completely struggled in their thirteen career games. Fifteen touchdowns ten interceptions. He's won a playoff game in Pittsburgh. He is not intimidated by Heinz field, not intimidated by Steeler nation. He's tough to play this game. This is a toss up because we talk about just a little bit ago. We talked about that game in late December last year. How that went down. It looked like a ravens win in Pittsburgh clawed back. It was very emotional game because it was six days after Ryan shades of your went down, but it looked like a Baltimore win. So this game in two thousand eighteen NFL games could change on a dime. We've we've seen that already. We almost saw that Monday night, so I'm cautiously optimistic, but if I think with my head and on my. Heart. I'm actually going to go ahead and say, thirty one, twenty eight in favor of the Baltimore Ravens. You know what? I was the same thing I said to Lance Williams when he predicted the ranger when good pig against them, everyone pick against him. I don't care that. You know what backs against the wall underdogs at home. I like it. I like it a lot. So you know what? I'm gonna take the Steelers. I think that there's something about this team. We let off our show last night and I hate to keep referencing that. But with the question of which half is the Steelers team is the first half against Tampa Bay where they scored twenty three office of points thirty total points or is it the second half of the scored no points and let them right back in? I still think this first half team is the team that we can expect once they kind of get things together, will they get it together? I don't know. But you know what? I'm gonna go with these games are typically what four points are under, right? I'm gonna keep it right at that line. I have the Steelers winning thirty one to twenty seven thirty one twenty seven. It would drop the ravens record to into the Pittsburgh advanced. Two one in one in depending on how the Cincinnati Bengals do against the Atlanta Falcons. They could be right in the thick of things in the AFC and the AFC north division. So Brian picked against the pig issue. He took the ravens, Lance Williams last night at the ravens. I'm taking the Steelers and both times because I don't change my prediction at all. And so we'll see how things play out. Call me journal optimists. That's fine. But we, you know what? I just think that this team is better than what they've put on the field so far. And so Brian, what do you think about that prediction before we get into any questions. You know what I like that prediction to. I'm just being, I'm usually the eternal optimist and something that you said about the Pittsburgh Steelers, first half offense. Just want to let you know something about the ravens. Second, half defense has not allowed a touchdown in the second half at all this year, so they are. They get stronger as the game goes on. I mean, really, I hope I can eat chronics. I hope I'm completely wrong. I hope I've egged on my face next week and I personally will let you go ahead and just make fun of me to the gills and I hope do. I hope I'm dead wrong because I'll tell you what the networks pay me to us to Kate. I'm just going with my head. This is a crazy year already. I think the Steelers have the key of the tools to win this game. I just worry about the momentum that the ravens have right now, and I think they are a better team than a lot of St.. Nation do. So that's why I'm going that way. I hope Lance and I are both rawal. Yeah. Well, you know, I said last night I'll say it again. If you, let's let's look at you. The ravens beat. They beat a high school JV team in the Buffalo Bills and week one that we're starting Nathan Peterman at quarterback. Let me refer. I'll say that again, folks. Nathan Peterman at quarterback. Okay. And it was at home Baltimore's tough MD. Then they lose to the Bengals on a short week and they will crappy in that game. They came back, but those because the Bengals are the Bengals and they find ways to lose or almost lose and then they beat the Denver Broncos team that I'm sorry, just not that good. They're just not that good. Everything about the just not that good. I'm not impressed with the ravens yet. They, they beat the Steelers on Sunday night. I'll I'll be the first to say that if they beat them in the better team kudos to them, I just don't think that I think it's going to be evenly matched game. I don't think one team is drastically. Than the other. But at the same time, as always, I think it's gonna come down to about four points or fewer. So let's dive into these questions here. Brian. I like to do these live Chad questions, rapid fire. Okay. So keep your mic on pay attention. It's going to be quick. Here we go. Do you think he Butler? Keith butlers job is safe. Go ahead Ryan. I don't think I don't think so either. Do you think he could be fired in season. No, I do not. Okay. I agree with that. I don't think it's safe but not during the season. I agree. Okay. Who will win the cornerback q. battle? This is typically from what we've understand is between Cody sense of all cameras sudden and Artie burns. I think Cam Sutton's the guy there. That's right now he's your best bed already. Just a, he snake bitten. Discipline Cody is a backup. Yeah, cody's backup or were already burns? I think wins it because he's a number one draft pick. I think e seen my Tomlin do this before he sending a message trying to light a spark. Don't be surprised if already earns a story to this week in another question was a follow up. Do they do you think that brings someone else in you think the Steelers could possibly make an NC in-season move this year? You know what? They definitely can. They've done it the past couple years here and there they brought offense lineman in. They've definitely brought kickers in. They can go ahead and do it. I mean, hey, they're getting eight hundred fifty five thousand dollars back every single week with slavery on bell. So they're going to have the room to bring somebody in. I just don't know who is on their couch right now. That's good enough to come in and play. You're right. And I don't think there is anyone out that it's worthy of them bringing in right now. So unless there's an injury, I think they stayed put. I don't think they're actually going to do anything. When a question about what's up with number ninety? Two, the rookie that's obviously outside linebacker. Olah Dany he is on injured reserve. He cannot come back until week. Six, I think, is at six or eight Brian. I believe it is week six. Okay. I think it's the stay week. Seven. I think he has to stay out six weeks. All right. Another question from Lance Williams out there watching. How will the Steelers get pressure on Joe flacco on Sunday night. But do pre really needs to bring it. And his stat line is not as bad as you would think with five QB hits two sacks to pass deflections interception of forced fumble. But like you mentioned before he overruns it. So if you can get him from not over running flacco he could get a pressure. And you also mentioned you gotta have a guy like TJ watt step up, but coming from the middle, John Boston is doing more and more each week. And if you bring him in, he can make a little bit of an impact. In my opinion, the Steelers are going to get the flacco. It's going to be because of two players. Cam Hayward Steph onto it because if they're not going to say that here, not getting interior pressure, it's it's not gonna matter. It's not gonna matter. Is it not just Joe flacco? It's not gonna matter against majority of quarterbacks in the league because they're going to be out of step up. They're going to be able to maneuver their way to the pocket, and it's not going to be difficult because, like I said, budget pre runs up the over and over again. It's an easy lane. We saw Aaron Rodgers in the preseason just abuse them with his legs. So there you go. I think if they're going to give pressure has to be with those two two, it's got to play better. He hasn't played well yet, in my opinion, here we go. Lance Williams says, do we think Joey porter will be fired at the end of the year. I don't think so. I think they're married to Joey for some reason. I'm going to say that if if if an outside linebacker doesn't sniff double digit sacks and you just don't seem to development happening even more so than we already have. I think he could be gone. I think he's one of those coaches that it was kind of Carnell lake last year where they might have said, keep an eye on this year. If you don't kind of turn it around could be gone. I think that, yeah, so he would another question does Chris Boswell MS, another kick on Sunday. She better not if wants to keep his job, he'd better not in. Let me tell you something Jeff, three years ago, Chris Boswell, excuse me two years ago, I believe was three, Chris Boswell gut his job because week four prime time. It was a Thursday night game, but a prime time game against the Baltimore Ravens, Josh Scooby, wet the bed. And that's why Chris Boswell is in Pittsburgh. You know, they are not oppo the, they're not going to wait too much longer. I know Tomlin came out and said, he's our guy. He's our kicker, but I don't care what you paid him in the off season. You know, it's a key position we've seen him do before with Todd Peterson, going Jeff Reed. We saw it was Scooby going to Boswell. And then we saw with Jeffrey losing his job to Sean Swedes them back in in two thousand ten. And so those those were all playoff seasons to where those guys came in and did well. So you can see it happen to the answer to your question. The question was, will he miss a kick on Sunday, yes or no? No. No, not going to. I don't think he does either. Better? Not right. You don't miss in my opinion, you don't miss three kicks all year and then just suck. All of a sudden doesn't happen, especially you Scott Scooby coming from Jacksonville to Pittsburgh, you can kind of see, man, that's different. It's a different environment. You playing a meaningful game. There's more pressure boswell's been there done that. He spent successful there. I just don't see him completely collapsing. So I'm gonna say that, no, here we go. Do they pick of Artie burns fifth year option after this year, this going to be very talked about question as the year progresses. You know, that might depend on how well bud depre- does, but you know what my gut is actually saying, no. Especially if they get burnt with bud and I know that's two completely different positions. But you know, they bring it back bud, but they have some options at the corner position, and I think they're going to draft high at corner. Again, you know, if you still have Joe Haden around next year, which kind of expect to know I, I don't think they're going to if he continues having the problems of these having. We're talking about this right now on the live chat. Everyone saying, no, no, no. I think if we talked about this year ago and said, are they going to pick up depre- option? Everyone be saying, no, no, no. And what happened? Yes, yes. Yes. He was signed because this dealers don't like to admit that they whiffed on a first round pick even though they did twice back to back and and l. Busta Jarvis Jones. Let's not forget about that guy. So they don't have the desk pedigree in the first round picking defenders that still. There you go. The questions have run dry. That's fine because I thought this was a good show. I hope that what we gave you tonight is just a little bit of insight on the ravens and Steelers this of coming game because it is different. There was a time where when you say, okay, let's get ready for Steelers, ravens. Everyone say, okay, get ready for a ten, seven game, or let's get ready for nine to six. And it's just not that way anymore. And that's kind of driving with the entire NFL. So there's a lot to talk about. There's a lot of digest and I hope that you all enjoyed the show. I hope you keep watching. You know, it is what it is. I hope this used win. I hope they play well, and it's going to be a good game Brian. What are your final thoughts before we send it off for the evening? You know what? No matter how this game shapes up. It is going to go down as one of the better, the better games in this rivalry. These are two teams that are primed for each other. They play better when they play against each other. And you know, you can throw out record books. The records are close, but it just doesn't matter. It Steelers, it's ravens. It's Yankees, Red Sox to me, it's it's one of the great rivalries. It's becoming penguins capitals. If you wanna go ahead and put it there. But if you even want to throw in a hockey comparison, it's going to be penguins flyers just for the fact that they're going to beat each other up. This is going to be a physical game. It's not gonna be pretty, but it is going to go down to the end and you're gonna hear all Michaels and Chris Collins worth talking about how they had another beauty on Sunday night football. You know what I miss about this. This rivalry. This happened. With the gangs Red Sox to it's it's kind of watered down a little bit. You hear players talking about, you know, we respect these guys and flab that he's a first ballot hall of Famer man. You know what I miss. I miss Hines, ward, cheap, shotting Ed Reed, right in the flip in mouth is what I miss you want outside miss. I've as Joey Puerto going on the team bus trying to go after Ray Lewis. That's what I miss. I'm missed the anger that these two teams out in each other because you know where that when it went to went to Cincinnati and in its, it's Cincinnati really Cincinnati in this year's hate. Each other, the Baltimore Ravens and Steelers used to hate each other. Now that's all we're chummy chummy come on man. This is AFC north football, ravens gimme a frigging break. I wanna see these guys going out killing each other because that's what makes rivalry great. I agree with you wholeheartedly, but we ran about t- years ago we had a rate your hate in the between Baltimore and Cincinnati, and it came out right at the same time that when the vont has Burr fact birthed stuff was happening. And when he was just terrorizing Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh fans were hating more and the consensus was the fact that we hate Cincinnati so much more than we do Baltimore effect. We have a healthy respect, and this is fan saying it and I looked at Baltimore, did the same exact thing at the same time. Because right after birth had a cheap shot, they had one of their tight ends might have been max Williams that that just got completely plastered the next week. Bye bye. Bertha cct and they were in the same boat in. So when I talk about living in Maryland and I talk about, I talked to ravens fan all the time. I say the same joke every single time I. I say, what do Steeler fans and and raven fans have in common. We both hate Cincinnati, and that's words gone too. But trust me, they strapped those helmets on they go up against each other. There's no love lost for sixty minutes. Michael Crabtree has never played in this rivalry. He's already chiming in on what this reverie means for a guy coming in. So I agree with you that then, eh is not there, but it could come back in a heartbeat and I think something's going to something's gonna make it come back just like Steve Smith almost made a comeback a year or two ago. Yeah, my Mitchell tried, but he's an idiot and that's not good representation. Where's the regard Ben? How broken scapula by Ray Lewis and his first game as a rookie like, that's what this. That's what this used to be. He broke his scapula. It wasn't skip you. I'm sorry. I said jaw earlier on what scapula. Thank you. This was compared to you when he broke his. This doctor said. You only see this in car accidents? Not in football games. That's incredible. That's what this used to be. That was a bounty was. Come on, like I care if it makes it more entertaining. That's what I care about. But you know what a anyways. Folks that are listening. We appreciate your time. 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Steelers Hangover, Part 2: You dont have to love the way the Steelers played in Dallas, but can you dig 8-0?

Behind the Steel Curtain

17:09 min | 2 weeks ago

Steelers Hangover, Part 2: You dont have to love the way the Steelers played in Dallas, but can you dig 8-0?

"And we're back for part two of steelers hangover with bryant. Davis davis an tony. So let's let's take some questions while. We're getting brian back. Here's one from john. Trent cut edmonds pleased. Now why do you say that. I don't think he's this is his best year so for know. I wouldn't go that far. I think he's he's progressing He's he's he was a bit of a reaches a third round as a first round. Pick back in two thousand eighteen. But he's gotten better each year and and brian is back. Welcome back brian. Ya i gotta tell you I do apologize. I have a brand new computer three hours old. Because i dropped it during the game yesterday and ruined it. So i'm gonna pass a hosting duties onto tony now garth now. We're taking questions while you were. I figured i'd get right into the questions. That's what wanted us to do right questioned. Yeah that's what we're going to do anyway go. Hey here's went from informed. Eighty how many tackles connor breakthrough in hundred plus games. Maybe to what do you think brian. I thought he'd running hard. I thought he was running hard. Yeah you know. I really think he is you. We're in a situation with james conner. Where when he gets going when he's getting the lanes he's fine and but he still a powerful rusher. I'm not that worried about james conner because we did the. I know you're a little bit more worried about him. I'm not as concerned. I don't know how many tackles that he's actually broken. But james conner is is fine. Yeah inside really did. I'm worried about him despite himself. It's more like a combination of the way. The offense blinds to run blocking in you know in front of them. Because i think a running back needs needs to go whereas according to a really good franchise quarterback ben. Who's who savvy in knowledgeable. Seventeen years can can Can compensate for for a lot of a alliance struggling by getting rid of the ball quicker knowing his is reach you know beforehand in protection and everything so i think that's really the issue and from what people eat. Listen to scouts. Like matt william center there. He's he's convinced. Part of the problem is because the steelers. You're getting rid of the ball so quickly. Because is during so quickly that they're sitting there. Crowding line of scrimmage again. So that's making harder for them to pat to run block. So i'm going to bring up in if you've already brought it up Yell at me and tell me Tell me no. But do you see matt canada being the oc next year county. Well i didn't think earlier in the year but he's getting shortening turn into garner more and more praise among amongst everybody i now i wouldn't be surprised if he is. Of course a lot of people saying might be pitt's new head coach. But i don't see that because i'm not sure if he if he left on good terms here but but i could definitely see him be being the offensive coordinator next year. I think he's done a good job. I mean i was. I was skeptical of the whole of that. And but but but he's really done a good job. And here's a here's an anecdote the Chase claypool jet sweep at the end of the game where you should have got a first. He slid too soon. I called that before the before they did it. I was so proud of myself. I am so witnesses. So i think i think he could be the next year attorney. What's your middle name. Julius tony julius deaf the next offensive coordinator of the steelers. If you want somebody to complain about go ahead and hire me tony. How about rodney good. Evening sirs man's what's the deal with juju in the dallas star. Yeah i don't know about that. That's not that wasn't a fun. Call back to an old celebration because if you remember that game back in ninety eight i think it was ninety. Eight between the forty niners in the cowboys ugly when teo did that twice and that caused the big fights well no know what what he was thinking there. That was not a fun loving celebration definitely so who stopped him from doing. It was the question. Because i i just read about this Afterwards did you see it. Getting ready to happen did a story. I saw him running running in that direction. Allah te'o back in the late ninety s and some. I think it was number ninety four and they got who. They called it on the unsportsmanlike conduct. Caught it on number ninety four. I think he stopped me from doing it. But it wasn't a major deal. I guess just big enough for him to draw a penalty. But i guess that's who stopped in ninety four. I forget he was a pretty good player yesterday. I forget his name. But that's you. Stop them you know what. Thank you number ninety four. I will just say that i mean. I'm glad it didn't happen. So let's just say that Mattie pebbles our guy from down under tony who was the most surprising player on each team for you yesterday well bad bad or good performance. While i think the cowboys most surprising player was a garrett gilbert. What about you brian. Chris boswell but really surprised me and we gotta we gotta talk about baas the talk one of my favorite shows of all time is mash in the pilot episode. I there's a great line at the very end of the episode when they thought they were getting arrested but the reason they were not going to get court martialed was because they were excellent surgeons and they're like we screwed up. We can't get out of here. We we messed up by doing well and so it's really funny because the steelers mess up. They mess up get a penalty. They missed the field goal. They missed fifty four yard field goal. It goes back to fifty nine. And i'm sitting there and i just started a smile. And my buddy. I my good buddy. Love him but he is. One of those guys very steeler pessimistic. So yesterday yesterday he was really threatened entire game and you still threat now because we didn't play well where where i'm like. Hey there ain't now relax and enjoy it. But i sat there going like this. He's gonna kick. He's gonna make this. He's making this field and he drove it right down the middle so you know that second chance were. They're the ones that screw up if i'm a dallas fan. I'd be like that's ridiculous. We should take that off. The clock right reached. You take that off the we should take it and say hey look we should be able to decide whether we decline that or not but the deadball fao. You can't go really lucky there right and i was glad they gave him that happening. Did he drilled that just for his own confidence because he missed the extra point to the left and he missed the. I feel before the penalty to the left and that was kind of his problem two years ago and kept pushing stuff to the left. So i was like. Oh here we go again. Two thousand eighteen. But but i think that if he was lacking in confidence that had to restore it right there Sending a franchise record absolutely. Yeah that was great. And the franchise record was I was corrected on this. I thought it was just gary anderson from nineteen eighty four but merry christmas. Chris brown had one back in. I believe i believe it was ninety nine or two thousand hundred fifty five so that breaks it by four yards That is heck of a long kick. I was just smiling when i saw it. Boswell didn't have the best best day. Did that come into play tony at the end of the game when they decided not to go for the field goal and an eight point lead. I don't think it was at that point. I don't think of his boswell. The the broncos their ability to jump over the line of scrimmage or time it just right and they blocked the one one extra point and they almost blocked a another. So i think that's really what it was the breakdown and in that area more so than than boswell brian anthony. That was is that he didn't get to see the real bad play You know what i. I really wanted to see him play. And you know pine richland kid. James madison kid Radio pitt kid. I would have loved to have seen them play But you know what that was just I'm still the real bad. I don't believe Brian anthony de nucci was running around in the nineteen seventies in the nineteen eighties. So i'm going to claim that i'm the original. Bad at trait. You're a bigger legend. You're so far. So far i mean he. He has to prove it yet. He and he hasn't proven it yet. So yeah you're still in the bigger legend. Let's talk about seven here. Tony can the steelers run game. Be a bit more creative under the center. I like ben but dan. You can't squat and run strong or weak formation. While i think the biggest problem there in my opinion is the absence of derek. What i mean he hasn't he was brought in here for special teams and to be a full back. He's missed so much time. And i think yesterday he would have been how many times they wasn't just at the end of the game. I think they were stopped short and other time on fourth in short. So there's where your fullback can really come in handy and he did Throw some really important blocks earlier in the year. So i think that's. That's the part of the problem is is derek. What his is ongoing health problems absolutely in west. Lets us know that ninety four is randy gregory. A guy who really had some redemption has had some redemption this season the kid from nebraska came out on the two thousand. Fifteen draft had a lot of substance problems Really putting it together. So that's who Randy gregg Randy groggy randy. Gregory is It's good to see him. Some redemption Informed eighty mentions that the rookie over dallas had a good game. Two that's metal gallimore is neville. Sounds like a harry. Potter character. Doubled delamore but i tell you what yeah. That's a guy that a lot of people wanted the steelers look at in the draft. And i thought he was really good yesterday so i mean a very fine a very fine performance from him. Douse came to play. We talked about this at the beginning of the show right now you gotta know. Yeah i mean you're right. I mean they they. They're desperate. They're desperate because that that afc the nfc east's is so wide open. And i'll takes is one win and you're right back in so they were. They were down to the fourth quarterback but they were still gonna gonna try to do their best to to win yesterday's game. I'm laughing at this nightrider sixteen. They protected the star. But when andy dalton got laid out they didn't move a muscle. She's protective grandbaby. Protect that brand. Evidently evidently there stars like the steelers. Terrible towel if you do anything to it. They just really take exception absolutely so we're going to get ready to wrap everything up here. Tony my question to you is. We've covered a lot of stuff. What are your thoughts going for. We are eight and now we at the half point of the season. of course. you're. I'm not gonna ask you to the steelers grade because you've got to give them an a. For going eighty now. I mean this their one hundred percent effective right now right. But let's look at the arrow. I still think the era was pointing up. I don't think that this team has peaked yet. Tony what are your thoughts. I'm i agree one hundred percent. I mean i think you know teams have slumps throughout the year right. I mean they struggle at times. And we've seen this in the past. You know different this year as with the previous years like the last two years as they get out of out of these bad games with wins and when you assume tyson lulu is going to be back soon. You assume mike go be back soon so you know. That's gonna help tremendously with the defense. You have every williamson he's gonna get. I'm assuming you're going to be getting more reps whether he starts out not like we talked about last week. He's going to. He's definitely going to factor into that rotation with at inside linebacker so from defensive standpoint you're going to get You're going to get well soon. Offense i mean they have. I think you know they're gonna have their struggles every now and then but they're still put up twenty four points yesterday despite not having the greatest game. So i'm pretty optimistic and you know here's something that nobody's talking about. The steelers only gave up nineteen points yesterday exactly and that's one of the lowest output from opponents this season i know the giants eighteen up but that that's pretty good too in. This is a bend. the end. don't break team they They gave up. How many touchdowns one yeah. That's all gave up so they kept a team to field goals. They outscored them. They won twenty four to nineteen short. Wasn't pretty but man how many patriots games over the years have been pretty. Were they were. They escaped right. We're seeing the chiefs escape. People are still talking about the chiefs being the best team in the league in. You know what you keep on saying. That i love it. He began talking about the chiefs right now and led pittsburgh even with that eight and a record. Let them be the number two team in the league and have a chip on their shoulder. I think the steelers do much better when they're disrespected. Ben rothlisberger does a whole lot better when he feels like. It's his team against the world. So i'm not saying that they're being disrespected. But all i'm saying is that if people still wanna talk chiefs that's fantastic but the chiefs once again. Eked out a win yesterday. Were they could have lost that game. Ben roethlisberger is not pat. Mahomes padma mahomes is not ben rothlisberger or these guys on a collision course. Tony i think so. I can't wait. i mean i'd love. I'd love to see people. Keep saying i don't want to see the chiefs in the playoffs and yeah i'd rather see them have the easiest path possible but i would love to see that matchup and the ben Outlasted one last time on you know as he enters the twilight of his career in win another super bowl. See i think. They are on a collision course. So we're going to wrap things up. Many pebereau. check. Out his show touchdown under along with mark davison as well on saturdays. Fantastic show love hearing ben in the game. Press saying what jeff said steelers fans are the best in the world. Tony the are the best in the world and we have proof of it here. Hundred thirty seven right now in the live chat. No matter who you are whether you're a name that we don't recognize but we read we read some names. We didn't recognize too that you know what happens the next couple of weeks. Those names become pretty. well known. so you're part of our family and your your opinion counts here and that's why we love it. Look i might love. Chris collins worth not love. Tony romo or not love phil simms. I might. I might think that. Hey you guys are. You guys are wrong for being scared. No you're not wrong for being scared because this team had a bad day at the office. So that's your feeling. You're fine but i'm here to tell you. In my opinion everything's gonna be quite alright. Don't worry about it. Embrace eight and my friends embrace it. Tony final thoughts. I agree one hundred percent. I mean you're not gonna. You're not gonna look great every week and and i always tell people the great thing about having youtube now and instrument streaming tv. Is i get to go back. And watch the old legendary games from the seventies and nineties teams and there are a lot of really great future hall of fame players that were making mistakes and look pretty ordinary time. So you know i. It's just it's just a tough. It's a tough league. And you mentioned the chiefs and how they've struggled at times this year. It happened from week to week. And especially when you when you were injured especially at three game road trip. It's just it's just tough to to win in the nfl. Steelers have done nothing but that this year despite the recent struggle. So i'm really optimistic about the second half alright. So let's embrace this eight and a record. Let's look forward to a game with cincinnati bengals. Next week we will be talking about it win or lose. What kind of hangover. It's gonna be a we. Don't know but i've got a feeling so we're tony nephew. My name is brian anthony. Davis you can call me bad and just when you think you've got all the answers. We keep changing the questions.

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Top 10 Kickers and Top 10 Punters in the NFL entering the 2020 season (Football 7/4)

Pick Six NFL Podcast

44:27 min | 5 months ago

Top 10 Kickers and Top 10 Punters in the NFL entering the 2020 season (Football 7/4)

"What's up? Everybody welcome to the picks podcast sports daily NFL PODCAST Brinson Bureau. Sometimes we do more than one show per day or sometimes we do more than five shares per week I. Guess is the proper way to put it. It's basically like these. Go to eleven for those of you. That like spinal tap jokes, and if you do spinal tap jokes, you're at the right podcast. Happy Birthday America it's July fourth and what can be more American? Subscribing to her youtube channel. Go, do it find. It was on twitter. It's it's it's. It's hard to explain. It's like CBS sports. Is Youtube Channel so you pretty much have to? Go to my twitter page at Winston or at six Pod, and you can find it there. You might be able to go to John Breaches twitter page and find it at John Breach. Of course you should be following him. Great tweets about cats and kickers, plenty of talk about kickers, which speaking of things American we were talking about all American kickers on this podcast like Ray finkle. Fireworks are going to be flow in Brinson. Because Bankas Einhorn Einhorn, finkle, what better way to spend your fourth of July, the talking about the top ten kickers and punters in the NFL I know you think of a better way. That's why you decide to host the show on the fourth of July. This was your idea, you said. Let's pull breach off his holiday. Where haven't talked about on the fourth of July and America wins on her two hundred and forty four th birthday I. think it is. Is Terrible. As a good bath I don't know. Is it and? How old is America? How old is earth? Who knows? Predict these things really science out the window twenty twenty. Now I'M GONNA. Do Quick Math WanNA preach. Point out that breaches right two hundred forty four. That's right I was doing. I was at a I can't really explain. The math I was doing, but it was bad. Anyway, breach station joining us on this on this American holiday. You Skip Apple, Pie. You skip top dogs. You just want to talk kickers. That's addicted kickers you are, and in fact we're also GONNA talk punters. How many people do you think? If you polled one hundred random people who are football fans. How many people could name ten kickers You know it's funny. You ask that question. I think that probably. A few hundred random people I think probably sixty or seventy could name ten kickers, but if we switch that to ten partners. I think I've yeah. I think the number goes way down I. Think it's under twenty because most people know their punter and there's a couple big name honors it. We'll talk about later on I. Think people probably know but other than that. I think the average football fan could probably four hunters. How many? How many professional NFL writers like? National NFL writers could name ten. Punish right now I. Have Serious we call them on the fourth of July they're drinking a little bit more like all right. We'll put you on. The spot named ten years I. The numbers not one hundred percent. There is definitely. People who wouldn't name? Should we call like like literally right now on the? Recording recording this law early, but you can pretend before the. Should we call? And see if he named punish. I I don't know Frisco. Could they I think he could i. go knows a lot about the week so I do think he would probably pull it off, but I think it would take him a second. To ask. Name ten punters right now. Princeton Texas man live. He's not gonNA for but. He. and. Former Hicks podcast. Member the costas thread. I think I could name ten hunters if you. I think during the season I can easily maintained punters, but in the middle of season. I just don't know like without. Looking at the list I would get to ten, but it would be I would have to do it in a way where I was like going through a list of cheap so. Anyway, let's get to the kickers. Kickers to. And you actually ranked ten. What was What was the criteria for the ranking breach? Well here here's. How I start off before I do anything I look at it is if If all the kickers were free age. There was a kicker draft tomorrow. What's kick? Her would be drafted I and. Because with kickers. It's really that simple. You want a kicker to be able to do basically three things. You want to be able to kick through the UPRIGHTS. Because if you can't do that, you're bad. You need to be able to make your field goals you need to be strong got to have a strong leg, but you don't want too much strength, and you don't want to have that at the expense of your accuracy, and a good example of that is my her of the cowboys who has probably one of the top three strongest legs in the NFL but is nowhere near the top ten list because he can't kick it straight. Hit multiple six yard field goals, but he can't hit a forty feel which is a problem I. also like wall. Jeff you've been taking the NFL for a long time. It is not easy to keep kicking job. We have in Carousel. All these players being floated every Tuesday after a kicker Mrs. Field Goals on Sunday. Kickers get replaced all the time. So if you've been able to keep your job that means, you're probably pretty good. And then obviously, this is the part that doesn't necessarily apply to other positions, and that is the mental aspect of kicking. We've seen so many meltdowns over the years in the past fifteen years, Mike Vander Jack had a huge playoff missed almost never heard from again. Just never recovered mentally. Blair Walsh had that huge one Viking seahawks back in that playoff game. That, one yeah, and then he was boom, just never recovered mentally wasn't able to kick in the NFL anymore. So there is a huge mental aspect of that, and so you want to see that kickers can handle pressure, and that also helps you. Get on this list, okay? And so it doesn't necessarily matter like stats. Don't matter to you as much here. I mean they do, but they. You know what I'm saying like. If you're not basing it on, so we talked to run. We talked running backs with Patrick. Walker and I felt like he was leaning heavily on. The actual production like Alvin Kamara one thousand nine rushing season, so we got left off I. Mean for me. I would put him on regardless of the stats. You're not leaning heavily on. Two Thousand Nine nineteen stats as a twenty twenty predictor I mean I am looking at the stats, but here's the thing with kickers. There's so many do. Is that like? If you kick in a dome and you have better stats than the guy who kicks in Denver or Chicago. And these cold weather cities that doesn't necessarily mean you're a better kicker, warm weather, kickers, or at an advantage which I'll talk about later, so you're facing different conditions. Some kickers do kick in domes. If you're in. The AFC south you might play twelve games in domes out of your sixteenth, so you never really have to deal with the weather, so you kind of have to factor those things in also so when you're picking these kickers. Are you taking them out of their element or you know what I'm saying. So like if if? Chris. Chris Boswell for instance. Right Yeah Chris for the Pittsburgh steelers as everybody knows. Double check. Boswell kicks in Pittsburgh. It's much harder place to kick. Would you then ding him for being a Pittsburgh, or are you doing these independent of weather? When you're selecting the kicker? Boswell so and actually Boswell was a name who came up a lot in tweets when our CBS sports HQ came out, 'cause people thought he was ranked too high. because. He had horrible eighteen season. Sixty. Five percent of his field goals I think he was dead last in the NFL, and why as as well no list, but then he rebound in twenty, nineteen had a huge year I think he was taught for an accuracy, and that does play a part. CAUSWELL is the seventh. He's seven. Most accurate kicker fell history. Let's say last year. He was eighth, most accurate kicker and you had another guy who's. WHO's a fifth most accurate kicker and they are only one missed field goal why I'm not going to hold that against Boswell because he is kicking. Heinz field is notoriously one of the most difficult places to kick, so if you're heading eighty eight percent of your field goals in Heinz field that to me, that's as good as hitting ninety percent in a dome because there's not guarantee that. Don't kick her Canadian. Yeah Yeah. Exactly okay all right so you're! You're giving credit for guys who have to kick in difficult conditions right so if your numbers are a little bit lower that I, it just depends why they're lower right now that we've gotten that out of the way depot was worried. This podcast is going to run long and he's right. Birthday rare. Let's get to the list checking in and the only reason he's on. This list is because you wanted to do a kick podcast. You knew if you include an eagles kicker he would. Then depot would seek you out to kick her podcast. And he did. You were right. Jake Elliott the. drafted. Yes, fifth round of the two thousand seventeen NFL draft with the eagles, the last three years eighty four percent of his kicks made He stepped in a twenty two year. Old Rookie has made ninety four percent of his. Points and nine of fifteen. Fifteen kicks five a year from fifty yards or more, but has a nice percentage from their breeds a. why did he check in at number ten for you? Fun Fact About Jake. He was actually drafted by the Cincinnati Bengals, and not only that, but the man who held his draft card and announced the pick. Was Jim Breach? So I forgot about that? That's right, Jake, why did he? Why did the Bengals not keeping? The Rain Ball. He he had horrible training camp so obviously storm now, but he he struggled badly, and at the time it was the correct decision, even though it looks like a dumb decision, apples kickers. If you guys making fifty percent and training camp, you know he's getting cut. Role, in the season with. Right you don't know what you're getting. But then in his rookie year like his third game at a sixty one yard field, well against the giants, and then everybody laughed at the Bengals. That's neither here, nor there obviously. Dima, what you'll remember this because I remember something to somebody, get hurt or they ego such a cut somebody. Caleb sturgis! Yes, roster that super bowl season, and then Jake. Elliott took over, but Elliott played the whole season right? Yeah, because it would breach, said that three he came in for that monster field goal against the giants stirred married. It Yeah Perry it. was. Dot Sturgis was around because Jake. Elliott didn't sign until after the bengals cut him so it was really really late. It was just before the start of the season so I think they surges played one game. He got hurt okay. Yeah. Yeah Kim searches suffered a quad strain is plant leg although less Bowen reports say hip flexor so bleeding, green nation, and was going to miss several weeks. As a result, they tested out kickers brought in Elliott Elliott. Mayday huge go against the giants, and is never looked back again. That's why kicker lists are fickle, right breach. That is what if you're coach and you bring in? In your kicker, your rookie kicker second game of his career second. He's ever played. The NFL and he hits a sixty one yard. That's going to give you a long leash. You're not going to get rid of this guy if he does have some rookie struggles, and he did have those a little bit during his rookie season, there was a game where he missed multiple extra. Extra points against the forty niners, but you're the coach. Saying what this guy hit a sixty one yard. He's making most of his field. Goals weren't keep them and the one thing I like about Jake. Elliott is that he has gotten better each season and that's what you want to see from kicker. His field goal percentage has just continues to go up his extra point percentage. Percentage has gone up every single season and Philadelphia, not an easy environment to kick in and the Super Bowl. He came up huge for the eagles. He hit multiple feels, and he is actually one of only three kickers in NFL history to multiple field goals of forty yards or more in the super bowl. Only three kickers ever done that Jake Elliott, Garrett, Hartley and Jim breach. He actually. Get as much usage I. Don't think a lot of kickers. Doug Peterson so aggressive about going for gopher to and the going forward on fourth down like you look at his numbers, you just data. He's just been. Tom Last year twenty two at twenty six, but a very nice eighty five percent. Conversion rate as kicker right number nine. The man, the myth, the legend speaking of tough places to kick Mason crosby. Crosby is absolutely one of those. We always talk about how. Frozen Tundra of Lambeau field is such an for the packers, but like it's not advantage for. The, kicker and this is why this is. This is not a job. Any kicker in the NFL would want but Mason. Crosby has had since two thousand seven, which is kind of crazy, and he's had a couple years in there where he has struggled two thousand seventeen, he only hits seventy eight point nine percent field goals. When you're kicking in Green Bay as a coach, you understand you can't read this guy out you bring in another guy. There's no guarantee he's going to be better. Especially kicking in that kind of weather, so the packers stuck by after those struggles in two thousand seventeen, he had a decent twenty eighteen, then came through last year with the best season of his career. This guy is peak kicker. It's like. Yeah! Five? Ninety percent by kicks. So, that came out of nowhere any last year. We saw him hit a game. Winning field goals, lions fans, I'm sure you remember he hit. The, packers play the lions twice did not leave at all. Either of those games with time on the clock. Mason crosby hit. Field Goals as time expired in two games against the lines winning both of those, so yeah, based on where he kicks came up last year. He's number nine. For the record basic crosby, eighty seven point eight percent of his field goals. From thirty to thirty nine yards over the course of his career, that's a that's a really good. He doesn't. He doesn't miss this chip shouters. If you look at even is bad season in two thousand twelve years, two of nine from fifty plus. He had that one weird year like you out. Two thousand seventeen I think people were talking about like maybe cutting him. In two thousand seventeen people are mad at it, and now he's he's really established himself as one of the better kickers in the league number eight Matt Freighter. Yeah Lions fans felt like Prater should have been a little bit higher, but I think. He came an good spot. I was talking about two things you want. Strength and accuracy trader is almost like a perfect combo that he's got. He's one of the strongest legged kickers in the NFL he's. Top, three strong legs. He has the NFL record for longest field goal at sixty four yards. He did that while he was playing for the Broncos, so we know he does have that super strong leg and his accuracy seems to get a little bit better every single year. But he was did have a slight down year in twenty, one, thousand, nine, hundred eighty four percent of his field goals, so that is why he is number, eight, Eighty, eight or eighty nine, he probably would have been up fodder to, but he does play in a dome where it should be a little bit easier to kick theoretically. But he did struggle a little bit. In Two Thousand Nineteen Fun Fact Matt Prater. In two thousand, thirteen lead the NFL with ninety six point, two percent of his field goals made and kick seventy five extra points made every single one of them. That was of course peyton manning at a big one hundred and fourteen kickoffs, and then you know it's weird breeds like he fell off a cliff the next year with Denver. Or did you get committee? Get Cut. Here, what exactly what happened two thousand thirteen, but the always wonder like. Did his leg get worn out? Yeah kicking, trying to keep up with that peyton manning offense. Yeah. One hundred fourteen kickoff is a ton and seventy points. There's a lot of weird Karen the light all right number seven Dan, the Man Bailey. Damn, the man bail. You know it's funny. Is that the cowboys? You remember. This was a total surprise when Dan barely got by the cowboys. The two thousand eighteen season he at the time. Four or five years in his career, he was the most accurate kicker in NFL history. He injured his groin in twenty. Seventeen didn't really come back. Bounce back very strong. So, the cowboys kept them in twenty seventeen. He only hit seventy five percent of his field goals. A rough training camp got cut in favor of Brett, Maher and then. Seventy five of his field goals in twenty eighteen with the Vikings and it looked like this was another guy who was going to be over because he wasn't able to bounce back from his injuries, but he did last year he was one of the best kickers in the NFL hit ninety three point, one percent of his heels, and so based on what he did is first. Four years were he was one of the top three kickers in the NFL combined with what he did last year. That is how Dan Billy got to number seven on this been asking this question, but where's Greg's airline? Its current cowboys kicker. Greg the legs airline. Did he fall off the list after a tremendous run? Yeah, it's Eight years with the rams made eighty percent field goals, but just seventy two point seven last year. Are you out on Greg that is? I'm glad you asked that Princeton because Greg is not on this list and a reason for that same reason that Stephen Gostkowski is not honest and I'm glad you asked us. After the Damn Bailey ranking because it has to do with injuries, I do not trust any kicker. who was coming off an injury? We saw a few times last year. Ryan. Suck up with titans got injured last off season titans that have having the worst kicking situation in the NFL suck up career. Horrible Year was never able to bounce back from his injury. Adam Viteri dealing with. With an injury in the off season came in had a horrible year last year, Dan Bailey dealing with the engine twenty seventeen had to horrible years, and so there's no guarantee that they're line. He was dealing with a groin injury in two thousand eighteen. I'm not sure what happened during that offseason, but in twenty nine hundred and just wasn't good, and obviously the rams let them walk in free agency, so that feels like they may not think he's a top ten pick anymore and Gostkowski is dealing with a hip injury, which is pretty serious for kickers and. If you hundred percent healthy. He's the top five kicker, but I don't know if he's healthy and he's still on the free agent market, so he is also on this list because I never six. We mentioned before Chris the Baas Bosmo I'm just making a dumb nicknames for these guys at this point plays Pittsburgh kicks in Pittsburgh as well. Not quite top five, but sort of Boswell has been. What's the word I'm looking for? He's only twenty eight. Is that one verbal, but he's been at one point in time I think it was two thousand eighteen steelers. Fans did not like Chris Boswell. Unlike wanted him sliced and diced and cut on other everybody wanted him out, healy hit fifty percent of his field goals from forty to forty nine yards and two thousand eighteen. You WanNa. Be Hitting probably ninety percent from forty to forty nine. He was hitting fifty. He only hit sixty five percent of his field goals in two thousand eighteen. It was just a horrible horrible season Mike Tomlin was basically being asked every week. Are you going to cut the or you're going to get rid of them? But Tomlin stuck by him, and it paid off Boswell's one of the best kickers in the NFL. Last year kicking at Heinz field hit ninety three point five percent field goals, which is an insanely high number. Anything over ninety percent is awesome and let me say. This was one of three kickers. There were only three kickers in the NFL. who were perfect on extra points because you're not making every extra point. Ever since it's been moved back, Boswell went twenty, eight or twenty eight, and he's been the NFL for five years and three to five years. He's ninety percent more or more of his field goal, so if he had not had that disastrous two thousand eighteen season if he had hit, say eighty five percent of his field goals that year he would probably be third or fourth on this list. That disastrous year was such a disaster that we couldn't put them in the top five. Number five. A man who disgust me. Will Lutts because he's one of those freaks. Really has one L. His name. Like what are we doing? That's worse than wills with an S.. What are we doing I one L. will get the hell Outta here pal I'm going to start calling you wheels. Man Wills Brinson. I do know what sounded bad as a child so I feel badly is his name William and they shorten it the wills. I don't know. Maybe it's Williams. Although my my middle name is Williams, so maybe by parents should have called be. Wills will Lutts for years new, Orleans made eighty seven and a half percent of his field goals. He was undrafted coming out of Georgia state. Has made a ninety seven percent of his extra points. Just not maybe it's not surprising because he's in the dumb, but he's been he's been. Is Rock solid for the saints ever since he landed New Orleans. Yeah what's has been fantastic during his with the saints and I think that he was another one. I got a lot of feedback on twitter will. Why isn't lots in the top three? You needs to be in the top three. People do that. People take their kickers ranking a lot more seriously than I thought. I was ready to argue back. So there is okay. What is the only top five kicker that kicks in Dome I think kicking a dome does give you sight advantage because you don't have to worry about the weather, so you know he. His percentages should be a little bit. But he he had a great twenty one thousand nine season. He doesn't really miss big kicks and I don't think that. He should be in the top three I think he could eventually be in the top three. I think V is a good spot for him right now and. When you're the saints? You need a clutch kicker because the offense moves the ball downfield all the time. Don't always score touch. You GotTa know. You can get points on the board and we'll let's does that for New Orleans. Sub Four Robbie. Well what are you saying? I should be doing Chris Berman Voice Robbie good as Gold Gold Robbie good as gold or whatever he would say, Robbie gold number four remember remember what he was really good for the Chicago bears, and they let him leave can't believe that, Sean. We need to have a podcast Sean about that. He's probably still sad about. Letting Sean leave. Nobody would do that. Don't Brinson, is he? If this Saturday show. nope. mailbag one leg. But also maybe check twitter if you're hearing this, yeah. All right now. The goal actually had a bad year in two thousand and nineteen now, and I got grilled on this, but again I am always ready to defend my rankings with stats Robbie Gold did have a bad year, so let me say this. The bears dumped him. After the two thousand fifteen season twenty sixteen was Chicago he hits one hundred percent of his field goals, twenty seventeen ninety five point, one percent of feel will second the NFL twenty eighteen ninety seven point, one percent of his feels that led the NFL is what? What the bears like Oh now last year he hit seventy four point two percent of his field goals. He ranked in the bottom five of the NFL, but I am cutting him. Some slack in here is why number one? The forty niners had a rookie owner, which means they had a rookie holder. Mitchell now Sqi is from Australia these Australian guys. They didn't grow up catching a football and put it down to holding. It takes them adjustment holders, actually a pretty difficult job. I don't think most people understand that and you'RE A. You have to trust that. Your long snappers to do his job and the. Job before you can even kick the ball, so two things have to happen before you can do your job and so I think there is not a full amount of trust there yet. And then the other part is that the forty niners four different long snappers in two thousand, nine, hundred nine Kyle Nelson, normal star, got suspended, and how long snapper get suspended so while he was out. They had three guys with those three long snappers, Robbie. Gold went twelve of nineteen through the first six weeks of the season. That is a horrible number, so that is seven. Miss Kicks they. When Kyle Nelson came back gold finish the season, seventeen of eighteen, and he also hit. Two big field wasn't a super bowl. Three field goals in the NFC title game including a fifty four yarder so once he had his normal snapper back. He was back to his normal self. Also. You know. Eighty five percent field goals that were he made eighty five percent of shows are inside fifty yards. So that's good. You might have said that I tuned out because the HBO announced that curb your enthusiasm coming back for another season. That's exciting. Very exciting. Number three. Josh? Lambo you know what I don't know I this is probably the thing that blew my mind the most about ranking, so we had CBS sports HQ. Twitter Account tweet out our rankings and you know who I got. The most blowback from Josh Lambo fans. I didn't know Josh Lambo Jacksonville had fans. Let alone like fans of their kicker. Maybe it's because he's the only good player on the roster, but the Jags fans were out in full force ripping me for not having Lambeau at number to at least they well, my thirty, and some of them were trying to make the argument that he was better than just in Tucker, which is just look. If you gave any NFL team of choice to pick one kicker to kick them next year. They would all take Justin Tucker. So that is just hands down. He can't be an spoiling Justin. Tucker is number one, but so Josh Lambo had a fantastic year last season, the NFL feel percentage, ninety seven point, one percent, which was better than Tucker, he only. Only missed one extra point, but here is why Josh Lambo is not number one number look. He plays in better weather. He plays in warm weather Jacksonville Tucker plays on the East Coast and Baltimore work. It's called it gets Wendy. It gets bad warm. Weather is easier to kick. Somebody tried to tweet at me and tell me well. It's all humid and. Lambo kicks in way worse weather. It is easier to kick in warm weather. I think the confusion comes because you see these long field goals in Denver when it's called the best because the air is thin and the ball travels further because they're a mile high elevation other than that you take Denver out. Cold weather is almost impossible to kick in warm. Weather's better because the air is less dense, the ball floats further and football is. Is more elastic so bathrooms off your foot more you WanNa kick in warm weather. The other reason Lambo is not ahead of Talker or at number one is because he has less pressure on them. Look the Ravens Fourteen, the to ask every single WanNa Tucker spills big when you're losing a game twenty one to three years to come out and kick it feel there's no pressure, so we should be making his kicks and then also. Lambeau in the past three years has three MRS under forty six yards, which is kind of that line of demarcation. We're kickers needs to be good from under forty six and teams will accept a little bit worse over forty six and Tucker only has won miss on his own. He had a couple of blocks of only one that he actually missed, so Josh Lambo. You're not number one, but you are number three. which I thought would appease Jaguars fans, but it did not. Renew Justin! Tucker's number one. Let's the kicker talk by pointing out that a number two. Harrison, Bucker and number one Justin Tulsa. Is the only. I've ever interviewed. I interviewed him at the at the combine. How? It's really wanted to Georgia. Tech has a really I think. Three. He's very smart an engineering. and. See Right through the fact that you didn't know you were talking about when it came to kicking. Absolutely okay drafted by. His twitter handle fantastic at but kicker seven drafted by the panthers in the seventh round, the panthers actually cut him scooped up by the chiefs. It might be because Cairo Santos got hurt. Is that is that right? Is it possible? Just got hurt well I. Want to say real quick. The panthers were getting ripped for letting her go, but Graham Gano was a really. He's been battling injuries now, so it looks dumb, but at the time. Zone A on a rookie deal. which was grand, can't. Tagged Him. Yeah, it's like I was like four million dollars in it. The difference is so small if you're talking about three and a half million where I have a proven kicker, this isn't like A. With the Panthers Decision Yeah I'm fine with it, but like at some point. If you think you've got a good kid who can kick like he can. You GotTa, Get mcadoo the panthers did that because they put on the practice squad. Yeah they. Screwed up. Who got hurt for the chiefs? Somebody got hurt from the chiefs. that. Is. Going out of my two thousand seventeen party blocked out. Two, thousand seventeen to move on to. Zero Santa's. Poor Cairo he's. Got Hurt. I think and injury. He did because he was three for three on the year and you wouldn't get rid of a kicker. Whose three for three suffered a groin injury, they had to get Bucker, and then they've rolled with Bucker, because bucker came in, and in two thousand seventeen made ninety point five percent of his field goals thirty eight to forty two thirteen games for the chiefs and made extra point, he was clutch for that to you, and it's been awesome ever since yeah and real quick Cairo. Santa's set groin injury. There's two things you don't WanNa. See Thicker. It is his groin because there's so much involved with your movement when you have a plan for it. You just don't have your groin injured. You don't want to have your hip injured. With those two injuries. There's no guarantee you're, GonNa make it back and be the kitchen. You were a four, but yeah Brinson for came up huge. We saw in the playoffs and the Super Bowl. He hit two huge games against the Vikings. He scored almost all their points on. That was when Patrick Mahomes was out if they don't win that game all the sudden. They're playing the wild card round. The Patriots have that by so you know Bucker came up a couple times for this team, and he also hit a seventy seven yard field goal. During the off season, not during a game. Anything, you want to add on your hands. Justin Tucker or we get? I would just say that he is hands down the greatest, kicker. Volta On Jail Jason Lockenfora Radio Show, and I think from a talent standpoint is the best kicker in NFL history. Now I'm not sure who gets the hall of fame. I think if he does three. Hear me out if he doesn't for three or four more years I, do think he get to the hall of fame, but you just never know you look. There's only two trim kicks in. The hall of fame wants centered more than Anderson more Anderson had to play almost forever. He was NFL's all wing score. Now Viteri Timeline score I think. Will Get in, but vegetarian has these iconic kicks. Everybody knows the Super Bowl game winners. The snow kick against the raiders is probably the greatest feelable in NFL history, because it's such a low percentage, kick and so Justin. Tucker doesn't have those iconic kicks hall of fame. Voters kind of associate with putting someone in. I don't know that they're going to put someone in on talent alone, but right now. He's the most accurate kicker NFL history. He's probably the greatest Talat we just need. The Ravens need to get. Get some some of those iconic kicks in there for him. You know what a sadly is going to hurt the ravens or just in Tucker's fame case, John Horrible now going for it all the time on fourth down just another attempt to just twenty nine field goals last season may twenty eight of course, but that is a career low for him, and just one field goal of fifty plus yards, because instead of trotting Tucker out with these on field goals. They're going for it on fourth and short. And Brenston. When he attempted twenty nine field goals last year, that was so far. That was the first time in five years that he had attempted under thirty. Yeah I. Your first time ever twenty, eighteen, attempted thirty nine, so Harbaugh Ho attitude is definitely going to hurt Tucker Tucker's at two years where he led the NFL and feeble attempts in two thousand thirteen in two thousand fifteen, but again is brench mentioned because harbaugh saying. Hey, we're going. He's not getting those attempts anymore. So and he had a career high and led the NFL career highs in both extra points, a tinted in extra points made and led the bet. Those categories because the ravens are prolific, scoring and finishing off drives, but we're field goal percentage by hall of fame case in Richly Let's take a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk a top ten punter in the NFL. The PGA tour is finally back the first cut on the CBS sports podcast network. has you covered week in and week out with previews picks interviews, news and analysis join Mark Immelman Kyle Porter, Greg Charm and myself Rick Gaiman as we come at us throughout the week with daily fantasy analysis, winning bets, and the hottest takes about Rory Phil and tiger. So what are you waiting for? Come join our group and let's talk golf download and subscribe on Apple podcasts. stitcher anywhere else. PODCAST are found. Paper ends. I met Alfred I'm Chris Hainer together were the Russell buddies a podcast going into the fun parts of professional wrestling? It's a celebration of pro wrestling for fans of all ages, even if you're just getting into it now, new episodes of Russell Buddies rap on Thursdays. So it wasn't enough to breach. Do top kickers. They said why not? Let's be crazy. Let's toss type two hundred Reagan all the positions. We need content here. We are on Saturday July fourth, ranking, top ten. We're not going to go through them individually bridge, because frankly we have to go cricket drunk honors people to it is July fourth. That is true. We're sorry partners. We as why you don't record podcasts on July fourth because you have a finite window to work with. The the bottom five Kevin Huber Michael Dixon's based lower than I thought. Cam Johnson Logan Cook, and Brian Anger, the man famously drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars, in the third round of the two thousand and twelve NFL draft a California kicker. He was taken just a couple of spots of this quarterback. You may have heard of Russel Wilson, and now he kicks for Houston pumps for the Houston Texans. Tell me about that bottom five there yeah, I would say the biggest backlash I got here. WAS THAT SAM? Cook from the Ravens did not make the list. I think you could probably. Probably switch them in there with Huber at number ten, but Ravens fans, the reasons Sam cooked it make because three of the past four years. His Net yardage has been under forty. That is not a great number for an NFL punter and look the Ravens. Also give me up a ton of punt return yards. They'd been one of the five worst teams in I think three the past four years, which is surprising because John Harbaugh, a special teams coach. He's got this loaded feelable unit I'm surprised that he is let the punt team just just surrender all these return yards. But other than that you mention Dixon Dixon had a phenomenal rookie. Year was a pro bore. He lost three yards office, pointing average, and just kind of fell back to Earth. He kinda had that adrenaline as rookie year, he was still a very good partner, just definitely not as good as he was during his rookie and twenty eighteen. Austrailia Buddy Cameron Johnson to Australians on this list, Brenston. Australian punters are huge in college now. Yeah, it was like an Australian pipeline Australian punters for. Big Schools have gone with Australian punters. okay should've gotten outback steakhouse to. Sponsor the the bottom five. Enough held back. Maybe, blooming onion man, you don't eat the blooming onion. Enough I think that's what I'm saying. A whole day's worth of calories in one blooming onion, so if you're like really hungry, you hit the blooming onion. Do so in less than ideal news by computers, completely I and up on me. And not just not moving. So why don't you tell me about your top five all right? Let's go with the top five here. Five Brett Kern of the Tennessee titans current had a huge year. He was a big reason why the titans were so good that often henry really. Not, right Tannehill, we'll throw in Ryan Tannehill, but like the offense isn't the chiefs offense. They don't score on every drive. And so when you're not sworn every drive, your partner becomes a weapon and Brett. Kern placed thirty seven punts inside his opponent's twenty yard line. Only to punters had more than thirty five. He was one of them, and if you're a partner, that is the gold standard. If you can pin someone inside their twenty because that's GonNa touch back. That's literally the best thing you can do because it makes your opponents field long to score points. So Kern probably titans fans were not happy. He was another one that probably could have been ranked higher. If I did this over I might have put them at three or two, but he's definitely easily a top five punter in the NFL number four Andy we the cardinals. Cardinals have been for the past few years any. We get so much action. Acquired from the panthers in a trade. Do they trade him? Am I wrong? He's been around forever. So I knew the Browns, and then the panthers gay Dave Gettleman gave the Browns a fourth round pick for ely well. He's been in the NFL since two thousand four, so it's like he's the one guy can't his career. She's about the forty niners, the Browns, the panthers and the cardinals, so he has been getting some serious action. Didn't. Pick this insane well. That's why you do it. He's never four four best partner. Would you give a fourth round? Pick the fourth partner. Would well Princeton I would give up a fourth round pick for the fourth best being the fourth best at your position in the entire NFL. He's thirty seven years old, and he's still banging out Fonsi average forty seven point eight yards per punt, which was the second highest number in the NFL, another guy who's on this list because he gets a ton of action and comes through as trust way of the Redskins, I think my favorite reaction was twitter. On twitter, somebody's like stress way real name, or are you just like four NAS to see if. We can actually name Punters Brinson game here, trust wiser real. Person Israel person is definitely a real person. He averaged forty nine point six yards per punt last year that was the ninth highest single season total in NFL history, and also talked about inside the twenty. Being important for the other thing you want is high net yardage yards per punt doesn't mean anything. If you don't have a good net yardage, because maybe you're team's going off. Return me route kicking your coverage. tress way forty four point one net yards per punt, which ranked third in the NFL number. Two on the list Brinson boy Johnny Hacker. Hacker is the only person on this list. Who I didn't just considering putting I consider that this guy's weapon yeah, the rams regularly use him four fake punts. The guys completed more passes than bell career than tastes them hill. So Johnny Hecker absolutely is not just a great partner. He's four his career. He's averaged forty yards per punt, which is the second highest career average in NFL history he was in the NFL in yards last year, so he's had a solid career, and obviously he is a weapon number. One on this list Thomas Morstead of the saints who now follows Brinson on twitter. That's right, and you Thomas Shout out the Thomas Morstead, so he, you ranked him first overall on the list. Then he followed you on twitter and I went out and follow immediately followed me back. I like that idea that you can follow somebody and they get a notification that says you followed. I would like to point out that. Moore said wasn't already following me and I gave him some sort of special treatment because he was. This is not the case. This was looking at the numbers and Morstead came out as the best he walked. He put nearly fifty percent of his punts inside opponents twenty yard line. We decided how we talked about how important that is. He forced twenty-one fair catches. So that's good because you're coverage team is taking out of the equation and now fair catches are good if you have a high net average, because if you have sixty fair catch, but you're not averaging only thirty five yards. That's not good. You're just give me short. Concerned can't return it. More set a bunch of fair catches, but he had an average of forty three point one, which ranked fifth overall in the NFL last year. He has had a top ten net punting average in. The past nine years and he's ranked in the top five. In seven of the past nine years, so his net punting average has been top five and seven of the past nine years including last year. Any is the third highest yards per punt. In NFL, history average in that is forty six point nights more said has been crushing it. He does kick in doors, but that's not the same as field goal. Kickers have a lot more to deal with punters. It's the weather is a factor, but unless it's major unless it was forty hour winds, there's not a huge difference, and that really speaks to two. The saints like I think we sleep on I mean obviously. Special Teams SORTA comes in third place when you're talking about often. Stevens especial shoots Bot. It's pretty clear. The saints have a very well rounded roster, Twi Twi the saints have gone thirteen and three the last two years I. It's not just offense. It's not just drew brees. Athlete. Walk for asked me without had the best kicker. Sir Tandem, because he thought talker and cook should be number one, but I told them I. thought that will. What's in Thomas morstead would be number one and the Tucker and cook probably number two, but again you're talking about two of the best teams they understand to coaches who understand how important special teams are, and if you have one of the best ponders in one of the best kickers that puts you ahead of the game because there's going to be one or two games. Games per season that come down to a field goal, there's going to be how to two games per season that come down to feel position, and if you have a kicker, who can make that feel or who can flip the field all the sudden. You're ahead of the game and the difference between the number one seed in the number. Two seed is one game. Maybe that game is something that your partner or Ticker Windsor you and now that there's only one home field advantage once he gets that each conference. You know kickers. Maybe a lot more important in two thousand, twenty, a lot of great stuff breach hope everybody has a happy and safe and non. Jason Pierre Paul July Fourth, and if you're over twenty one. I'm already. Drinker, Hammer right now. I mean I wasted soon as I. Get off with Brinson I have to drink just like cope with talking to Brinson for an hour. So this is going to be a crazy fourth of July for me. Involved a very bad during. His five am that people are listening to this right now so good for you, is it? It. Could be if if they're up that early. Getting up that early. People up onto I fourth I don't know some people. It's like you wake up early for Christmas. It's America's birthday open. America's presence Yup early. Are we releasing this on Youtube at the same time as the podcast or earlier? This will be also July fourth treat on Youtube for our viewers and listeners, so in other words, people are GonNa. See me wearing the shirt flair four straight news, exactly okay cool. A holiday. We don't have to change. But it's like it is conceivable that I've been wearing this shirt for four days. My wife actually made fun of me for wearing the same gray shirt for two straight days. That's exciting a happy birthday America. Great July fourth breach. Thank you for your diligence in the kicker and Punter special teams industry. There's no one better at it in in the national NFL media. Pay Friends I met FRING and I'm Chris Haney together. We're the Russell Buddies a podcast into the fun. Parts of professional wrestling. It's a celebration of pro wrestling for fans of all ages, even if you're just getting into it now, new episodes of Russell, buddies, rob on Thursdays.

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PMS 2.0 005 - Two BCS Champions

"It is September eighteenth in a beautiful one at that. I'll tell you what this past weekend was a bismuth for the brand abysmal for my gambling. In last night, it did not get better. I hammered the Seattle first-half over at seven and a half points. They were plus two turnover chart. He managed to score three, and that was a long from Sebastian Janikowski, but I'm not to upset about it because I donated my money to a gambling site. Then his are back from the jump street and that is my bookie dot AG. My bookie dot AG is the absolute greatest gambling site on earth. Let me tell you why Todd, okay, you'll can gamble on anything. Their foods ball obeys, the ball. Hi. I'm not sure about highlight. I am not certain if you can give on reality TV the Emmys relaxed. You could gamble on that. You could gamble one wrestling. You can gamble on everything and it's not gambling. It's investing when you listen to shows like this coming to you live from the my bookie studio. 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Change your life. The thirty thirty happened about him is whole life that you know the story from back in the day at Ohio State him, leaving him, wait until I asked him to real questions. No real questions. When I was hearing about a story, I wanted to nurse certain things. If somebody's gonna become a drug do that. I want to know about how we wanna know about the scripts get because, hey, hakeas you run scripts. I want to hear about how good you running out there. You know what I mean? How good are you? Don't down the streets. Do you have a gun? Yup. Got arrested with one, we'll see how that goes. You're gonna enjoy his very inspirational conversation with MAURICE Keret I absolutely enjoyed it. Also former teammate, Amman Joseph, Edyta joining us Joseph Di coats, fans, and LSU fans by Noah's a monster monster running back now. He's full. Time father, good guy and Houston was also one of my very close friends. Whenever I was early on in the colts, a lot of people would never have guessed that. Joe's very close friends one. The only people that really took me in whenever I came to it's very nice and can't wait to him and we have all the news stories happening in your world, our world v world. Let's get right into it. Last night, Todd, mccombs sent out a vitamin thought tweet that really it sucked me to my core. Oh, before we get to that, my house is on it. We knew that already. AM new evidence. It's bad. It's bad. What happened seminar lane in bed list? Yeah, ten, forty, five. I'm kind of dozing in and out. I see a drop kick happen out of nowhere. I get a bunch of text from you. Guys. Go drop gate, just dropped them. Like, what do you mean this app and rewind? Monday night football. There's the Emmys going on Monday night raw. There's Monday night football. It was a wild Monday on TV and I was just tired and I go to a mall recording so I could catch up on everything in the money, and I go back to drop kicking like that. Wasn't that impressive. And then I see the internet just as a live with it. I'm like, oh, so maybe that is impressive. I honestly, he was such an interesting technique thereby by Carol mostly because Jankowski is one of the greatest onside kicks in the history of the NFL. Like anytime you played the raiders back in the day, specially on that baseball field, if Jankowski was kicking off, you had to be very, very scared to his left because he would just run well, he would want to and then he would. He he's a big boy adding to eighty five in the knife in foreclosed wins, set. Jason Witten, very terrible. That is a hell of a punchline much better. Last night he's getting better. It seems as if like every it drops out from him, it drops out. Did you drops out? It seems if you'll be talking and no one will just drop out. Next time you listen to him, check it out because I think he runs out of breath and then he has to catch his breath and go. Doesn't stop. This guy's really got motor. The need to say, mother fucking. Sensor amount. It was very interesting. That's a hell of a punch line though. So whenever they took him out in favor of the drop kick onside kick was that after a safety? So he did to drop kicks there is the first one deep? Yeah, he did the first the first drop Cam was after a penalty from the fifty. You're trying to pin them. That is a very difficult kick for kickers do off of a t. by the way to hit the ball short like that because it's like a fifty yard pooch, which is very difficult to do off of a one inch t. two inch t. highschoolers can do it all the time. One inch t. it's a little bit lower Jankowski. Also he is a home run, fuck and hitter to cuss does. But the second one was after a safety. No, it was just because they scored late. This was like twenty seconds left and they needed to get on side. So it wasn't after safety? No. Okay. So it makes no sense that they would do that. I enjoy the fact that Michael Dickson is an absolute animal by the way, ten yard punt last night shift. Nobody sees it because he had a sixty two yard out of bounds out of the end zone, which is huge pot little shake because of bats, not bats, napkin ultra everything because it's a timing thing. It's time thing. It's like a homerun derby, you know, whatever Harper's dad was missing zone a little bit and you didn't helper dinger's there. That's a big deal. That's what that's why the snap is very important part of the brand. I don't give them enough love, but they kinda you fuck up the rhythm. It's a big deal. So I just kind of went around that him doing the dropkick. Awesome. He's an Australian incredibly talented bulk. I love it, but the onside kick makes no sense to me because John cale ski is literally the one of the best on. I mean, there's a person speaking microphone who probably go. Janikowski as you say, talent, the guy, the reasoning they gave last night and then they have no idea. Got no fucking just like whenever upon his down inside the one and the the coverage team, bats, it is soon as the coverage team touches it. The play is automatically basically just a bonus for the returners. So when whenever Cohen was Cohen? No, no. He picked it up and walk him, picks it up, and then he gets tackled in the end zone Jason Witten. I. The doors, Jason, and then like listening, you fucking idiots have no idea. The returners are taught as soon as coverage team bats it, it's just bonus from there. You can. They could take that thing all the way down. Ninety nine yards back the other way fumbled on the one. The punt team covers. That thing goes back to the one year about it's just all bonus after that. So funny last night. They're saying, sea bass is horrible. Yeah, because they said he's never had one recovered in the fourth quarter ever and his entire career. That's a stat look. Look, just look at film. He hits his, he's because he's a lefty, first of all. So it's going the opposite direction because righties kicked to their right Janikowski in onside kicks her tough to recover. That's just that's something that it is. But I know that a drop kick straight out of bounds it either. I know that's for sure. Jankowski might have lost it with his old age. He's good though. He's, he was something you had to fear because he had so left-footed toepoke it put the ball right into that fucking baseball, dirt Oakland, and the thing would showed up. Was he where to game jersey though? Was that a fake jersey I wore one of those jerseys looks like from Dixie? Yeah. What the sleeves loose. Is there a reason why you choose that or is that just because I was fat that euros two fifty. Go ahead and let loose a little bit. I don't need to skin-tight operation Jankowski thinking the same thing. I got big. I wear big jerks. Guys the best I love Jankowski though. That's the team's terrible. Yeah, they are bad Russell Wilson, not go to football right now, and it might be because he's scrambling for his life at all times. But man, they were talking about, he just has no help. He has. No, because they paid them. When you pay somebody like that, you put the whole team on his shoulders, and that's what happens. The Thanos get thing is we ended now that I am a big time superhero gut. I love that mov-. That's the Seahawks team is just completely been torn apart. Doug Baldwin's hurt like he doesn't have him and Brandon. Marshall's I receiver, but he's been the league for twenty years. He always seems to just not win. Brandon Marshall ever been. All career. So I watched him with the Broncos play against, get fifteen touchdowns in the game. He played us. I think he had maybe fifteen touchdowns. Yeah, it was one of the most absurd things I've ever seen. Then you see them just on Showtime, he has a show every week on their, he's so well speaks, well, he's, he's all these stats and everything, and he just never wince. It's just like shame like show Thomas like Joe Thomas one of the best wide receivers in the history of the game, just never ever win. Never ever win. This weekend was fucking wild. Patrick Mahomes is an absolute doll. He's a beast. He is an absolute dog with a cannon. By the way we used to have show on Sirius XM somebody called in patch Mahomes MVP book it, and we're like, well, let's get crazy here, but we should have trusted a cool, eight man. Andy Reid. Whenever he decided ship MVP possibility out Smith out of town and say, we got this young guy who's a monster. He's so good if I think we all knew he was going to be good. I don't think we knew he was going to light it up like that. This is Andy Reid season though the first five games. This is Andy Reid season Kool aid, man, Andy Reid. This is what he does every year he comes out swinging every year. They're hot, everything like that. But I mean. I just I don't know how you stop tyreek hill, Travis. I don't know how you stop it. I know Steelers did pretty good stopping them. They hit zero catches in the first half. So. Peterson could stop them. Killed Travis. Kelsey wide open in the middle. It's just one of the other. I'm gonna hold off annoying Patrick Mahomes the next great one yet. Like let me see more than two games. Really? Yeah. I mean that he is lighting. Patrick played good for two games to we think spectrum all of a sudden a great quarterback is twelve th year in the league. Yes, speaking of get your fits magic right now, although fits magic has been trademarked by Minka fits batches. What the FOX mink Uffizi. He was the first round pick for dolphins this year from Alabama. He just playing chessman. So I thought this was a porn star. It's Patrick was a porn star. And I honestly believe that this is another football player on this first round pick for dolphins replace corsair. This is another football player cocking another. Yeah. Oh my God. He's that the union, I. Off last week ago, a dick. Beats to the trade market guy. It's been in the league twelve years. Harvard guy just now having a good season. Yeah, just found the Asians. It just now. All right, but that the Harvard guide to the trademark well, Fitzpatrick studying filming the Tampa Bay Buccaneers PR job s. should be locking that Don. Fitzpatrick he doesn't k now he's twelve years in a league quarterback. He's gotten so much guaranteed money from little stops everywhere. Yeah, by the way. Great shirt coming off. So right now, show dot com. Go grab it. I, it's even if you're not a buccaneers fan, you'll love. I'm gonna wear. I'm gonna wear until maybe not this week where it after this week playing Steelers still has got no fucking shot. I'm not against Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's he's making plays right now on the run scrambling laying out. And then you just got the real housewives of Pittsburgh happening with the Steelers Browns at trade me today. Gruden's shaving really wanna be traded Pittsburgh's the most blue-collar fucking nose to the grindstone city there is and all they got to deal with what their football team used to be the vodka steel curtain back air mean Joe Greene, Mike Webster, all these, Greg Lord, you're talking about bam, bam, more keel. KEO Monto mall. His banner after bad ass and now they're going to deal with bro strip up wrapping. He's on jetskis morning. Live in his best life danger tasha at it. It's all showed a bus. They say, money can't buy happiness. Have you ever seen somebody on jetski met. Levin join us Dana Taj. You're spot on about that. Then you're gonna Tonio Brown asking to be traded. Ben roll. This burgers heard all of a sudden again, right? Going to bad elbow or something like this is every year. But as long as saying, this should not become this should not be the norm for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And you know why it is. It starts at the top all the way down. If you hand all this bullshit off season, it's not a big deal. Now, granted are the players asked him for too much is soon, but in Tonio Brown yelling and his offense coordinator for not get him to ball. And now you've got the reporters in Pittsburgh saying, Tonio Brown's, the problem, the best football player and football is the bra that was mind numbing to me to wake up after game, giving up sixteen and however many yards three in regards into see them bashing AB because he yelled at the offense coordinator, the entire Pittsburgh media wants to be next Cabela's. So they just write stuff that knows is gonna get fucking reaction ins. God, no hope against the Tampa Bay bucks lost. Do Chicago last year in week three and they barely beat the Browns week on the same as last year. They're gonna go fucking twelve and four. Again, you guys tied a team. That is just a perennial poor decision maker. The Browns deserve to be in my barn of bad decisions to be all day, Josh Gordon to the patriots for fifth rounder is just such this, you know, whenever they're thinking about trading Chris, Paul, I think that a Lakers Commissioner came in. It was like, this is something that you would hope Roger Goodell just like, no, we know you can't fuck and do this Bill. This can't happen because this what's going to happen in the dog pound doesn't deserve this. They've watched Josh Gordon for years and years. Bumble fuck is career way smoking dope smoking. Newydd not paying child support, not showing up doing this doing that. And then he's going to go to New England. You know, it's going to happen. He's gonna walk in that locker room and Tom Brady Bill Belichick, and the rest of the group is going to be a, hey, man. We don't fuck around appear k. you get your shit together and get the fuck out. And he's going to be like, well, I would like to get rich and be a Super Bowl champion. And Tom Brady is gonna be like, that's what we do here in his life on the straight narrow they got, we. It legal, Massachusetts, keep them away from it. They'll just keep moving and somehow some way the patriots are now favorite's probably to win the fucking Super Bowl because they got a deep threat again and it's all she wrote for everybody. Finally, the patriots human. They lose to the Jacksonville Jaguars, which they should've lost the AFC championship. They lose in. Everybody's like this is it me included this? Is it Bill Bella checks, losing his dodge the old school, pissed off guy isn't gonna work anymore, Tom Brady with the yacht Giselle. Right. Mechanical. Campbell gronkowski threatening retirement, Julian Adam, and taking supplements. Nobody knows about it seems getting rid of handsome, Danny amendola. It's like this is it. This is the collapse of it. And then all of a sudden whammy bring in an avatar, bring in a guy that can take the top off of the defense and all of a sudden they're back in the game because Cleveland can't help, but act like Cleveland, they're the fuck worst. I hate that fucking city so much, not the city small cities. I don't think the dog pound in city of Cleveland deserves personal. Braun, personal Brown, yeah. Yeah. He wanted to leave the city shit. She's, you need to. Tosh when is working Braun, James Lakers shirt right now wouldn't have been caught dead with the Cleveland Cavaliers. Go head LeBron's hairy. Grow Zeno. You need to do that. Zito got the spray paint hair on his head from balanced the barber, say the bears are wanna know with my new hairline. Yeah, they are now every morning you're at the wake up early enough to shower, hopefully put some fucking socks on and spray painting your head. Again, this is some that's gonna come home in the morning routine. I have talked to Mike and I am on the way of buying all plus for that might the Barbara comes in every single Monday and just does work that people's heads. James, Connor, which got criticize roughly. A white guy didn't fuss white. I did not do that. He came in, he trimmed up my my beard as if it was like chinstrap back in the day a little bit too tight for my liking. But I'm not going to say anything because he sprayed it down with some shit to make it look thicker too. So I appreciate that. Then he gives you a hairline all of a sudden, I appreciate what he does, but he needs. He's taken easy. Rawson trying to shoot. Good. I appreciate that. But in today's I'm not gonna be able to do this. This is like an artist on, right. And in today's whenever what hair what is do gross, I can't fuck and do this. What am I supposed to do? He hasn't like perfectly shaped, what am I fucking like? One of them campuses he should have made a stencil for you. That's all you're facing shave around. That's what I'm going to need to stop with the put a mirror in front of us because we never know what he's doing because we're staying at a blank wall, put a mirror there. Yeah, I fell asleep too. It is relaxing. He's really good software. But the Browns can't help themselves. They can't help themselves and it's a shame because it seemed like they were gonna have a good team this year. Fucking. So the kicker, Zing all is they knew he was hurt growing injury. This sounds like xenon Gonzalez's people PR spin here what it is. I think so, because if you're growing hearts, it is a big deal for kicker. 'cause using a lot of groin hip flexor. I mean, it's a lot of pool there and now with that being said, toward all compound you through that, let's unless it's ripped, which if you're hitting fifty two yards wide right instead of normally if you're hurting, you're going to like duck hook because you're pulling in. So the ball is going to go left. It's going to trail left, but also if you can't get through it, you're gonna push it right, but having a fifty two yarder spray that high and that far right makes me think it wasn't a ripped grind. Might have just been a little bit of a pool, which definitely sucks for shore, but toward l. can take that away. I don't know saying taking total or not, but that's definitely a rough outing. For Gonzales. And if he was hurt, they probably give him nauseous sit out, but he sits out. He's never going to be on the team. Again, it's an interesting situation. You know what I mean? It's one. I don't blame them for cutting Amita. We have to Mike Zimmer by the way. When he was asked why he cut the kicker, Daniel Carlson, and he responds with. Did you wash fucking get. Coach wide. You cut the kicker. Type of fucking. He missed three kicks one being thirty five yarder to potentially lock up money line win for. In Indianapolis, that he bet his barking house on that was unbelievable. He did that in those for the brand videos. A lot of people ask if I film them live or not. Just go ahead and watching that one back just here the max drain my Bank account while he misses that I was ready to lose my shit for the Viking Karlsen. I was ready to do the Viking clap, thin. But instead here we are worse gambling weekend in my life double at Donald fucking Russell Wilson last night. So you covered for like the press conference, but for Bosnia for BAAs worth, how does he bounce back was well buzzwords the, he had to. Yes, right. I don't. Yeah, he's over thinking everything right now. Whenever we drank with Boswell at the Cowboys Saint place, Todd Haley broke hip at same place that has a little person as the main security guy who's awesome. By the way, James Boswell was there and Jordan. Barry were there the punter so we were all drinking together BAAs is a smooth cat by the way, had a chain on. He's, he's lice, fade nice, great fade. He had a Texas Houston fade in. There was real tight Paul wall. And when I was talking on like, man, you hit the ball just so pure because he does. That's what he hits the ball. So pure. I'm like, what are you do is like, man, I just swing. I don't really think much. So then once you see him start missing, what happens is there's a lot of thought that goes into it. So it's just like in Gulf right? You get over the ball and you start thinking about everything. There's a good chance that they're you're going to over, think it and you're gonna, fuck yourself up. I mean, it's just always same thing with kicking same thing with putting any craft. I'd assume pitcher, same exact way if they start thinking about hitting the. Strike zone or something like doing this instead of this, it becomes paralysis by analysis, and I believe that is what Chris Boswell Boswell is happening right now. You get twenty million becomes a lot of pressure to become the guy you. You get paid in everybody wonders why college kids suck. Kicker suck. And I suck for a while in college kicking ninety percent mental. So whenever you add the pressure of having seventy five thousand people watching on national TV and you're eighteen years old nineteen years old, the only thing you can help is experienced some people. Got it. Some people don't and you throw. These kids are playing high school soccer, probably in front of forty five people in these stadiums, and they do a minute craft a very minute swing that you can either over think or not think at all. And I think right now boswell's in his own head hidden hypnotists do work with this. This is something sports. It is do work with it. I mean, there's a guy in Pittsburgh who's noted guy who does it? Yeah, hypnotist would work to kind of get him out of his own head. But also I think a nice rub and tug or. Some vitamins that happen because at the point now if you're Boswell, if you're at one out, I can't get any fucking worse rate home is all just go swing a mardi rich, like that's the thought that you need, but that's a veteran that you need to tell him that. So that's why they brought in a veteran punter that was potentially going to be signed today to them potentially. He would be able to go in there and be like, hey, man, just chill. Fuck out. This is not that big of a deal. You're you're, you can't get any worse. You're already rich, just go swing. It's one of those things where us kind of got to let it ride in. That becomes a big deal for a lot of people. Dana Carson, the rookie. I mean, he he's one for four and his career right in once you miss one, then he started like, oh shit, then you start over thinking and over thinking golf, kicking pitching all these crafts that you have to master the analysis in your head can really become the brain the killer to it all. And that's why if you get the, then he started thinking about the when you're laying in bed at night and you can't fall asleep. You're like, why can't I fall asleep. And then he start thinking about why you can't fall and then you're over thinking everything. Next thing, you know, it's an hour and a half later two hours later in you're not sleeping at its thing, but in front of millions of people happening, it's really it's a mental game. It is a hundred percent of mental game, and that's why you see people like Zang. I said yesterday in the press conference, he's gonna need a passport, not because his last name's Gonzales, not because of that, but because he's probably going to Canada, maybe. But there's sometimes guys that can't get out of this. Just start over thinking everything you can never get out of it. And that's not a shot at the CFO. Obviously, if the CFO guys were good, they'd be in the fucking NFL so it's not get crazy. I think they're good, but it's all mental game. Everything's a mental game and all these guys, I think just got in their head now. Obviously, there's some technique misses that you can have everyone's Gostkowski Crosby these guys who are just perennially. Awesome. Whenever they start missing, you assume it's just a technique thing or maybe the hold was office spot inch, either way off spot is a whole MRs. Well, these, it's like setting up for a drive in having the t move right before you hit it. I mean, that's gonna. Fuck you a little bit could be anything like that. But for the lot of the young folks, the young guys, it's a mental thing and they just can't get out of their own way. That's it's a tough thing in for me. I was always to dump. So. Really, it was really, really cool. I would miss and I would be very upset about it. But the next time I go out there, I'm not like all I wonder why I missed it was just like I was. So I was like, I don't wanna get that pissed off at me again. So let's try to make it better in for putting. I had no clue owes happening. My first couple years, I'd hit a schenken no idea why. So it's not like I'm over thinking. It's like I have no clue why that happened. Let's hope it goes better. It was a pretty fun little thought like heavy. I'm nesia basically the best thing for kicker. Just forget it. No, no, because I don't think you should forget it either. So I used to get so mad at myself. I used to get so mad at myself for fucking up. Then I would not wanna feel that way. Again, everybody would be like you have to have short term memory. If a corner gets burnt, they can't think about it again. I think that is not accurate all the time now do I think if you just act like it didn't happen, just kind of urban Meyer it. I mean, that's not. Joe Paterno it or just any school in the big ten just act like it didn't happen on a bad play. But for me, I handled it a different way. I will get so angry. I'll get so angry at myself. Whenever I miss, I'd be like, all right. I'm not gonna feel that way. Again, I do not want. So I would remember like I hated how he felt there. I feel like almost busted a blood vessel in my fuck and head. I don't wanna do that again. I just think there's different ways to handle everything. But whenever you're doing the action itself, you just kinda gotta let it ride in just I think that's really the issue with BAAs I think that's the issue at Gonzales. I don't think he has any hope. I think it's going to be about a year or two before he can get that out of there. That becomes something very difficult. Charles Barkley said, what ten years? Twenty minutes. And it's also he's one of the best athletes of all time mentally. So it's just one of those things where you just got to kind of get it other goalies. Same thing Galway's getting their own head to this is if these situations that are these positions where you're only operating in a very quick time period, there's a lot of thought that can get in the way, and it's that's what happened to the brand on Sunday. A lot of things. I often wonder if it's my fault. They're trying too hard. The spotlight people are going to watch this. Yeah, I wonder if because Thomas morstead told me last year after he hit a sixty yard ball and Monday night football while he was jogging silent, he was like Pat better, fuck and saw it's become a real thing, you know? So it's it's a situation where I wonder if I just I'm not going to continue. I mean, like the athletes in in legends that are happening forth. If it's too much pressure, you could just quit, maybe halftime. Greatest thing I've ever seen in my entire life favorite move ever pulled off. I don't know that. But what I would think up not gonna go back up. Tuck down on me and now. Gore place by. What do you mean vaunting. I'll get my shit. Out. What do you mean you're out here? I'm. I would say, yeah. What am I supposed to tell them? Dell. The heart of him when he goes. I know people my dummy, but. Good. We buffalo buffalo. But when it came to really like. Bill. Favorite Prussian by far I love on team. Yeah, I was very lucky to be his team. He came out of Miami when it came to the coats and he was a wild animal in Miami. He had Ferrari. He was living wild. He was out every night. He and Joe Philbin didn't get along because he wasn't exactly the player that they wanted down there in. He's self admittedly said that Miami was tough for him. He said, I had a lot of money and there's a lot of options in Miami. So when he came into the coats, he saw it as like a a reprieve almost like to kind of slow down life. He got found a lady's got married, he's he was in hot sub everyday. An act like a vet hot tub coats training room, and I got a chance to be around him a lot a lot both in all the situations vaunted was a very good teammate to us. Very, very good team in that is whenever he get excited. That's how he spoke. He was, he always knew his job. He was a primetime corner for us. We paid him a lot of money. He was shutting people down people down. I don't know what the fuck happened when it got the buffalo, I think he he might have had because corner is a position and vantera always had an interesting gate when he ran, it always looked like he was in pain and until game time it was only was wide open corner is the most athletic position on the field because you were covering the fastest people on the field. So it's not like widely in the football community corner. We talked about this with Dion corners, the most athletic person on the field because you have to cover who a lot of people think is the greatest athletes on the field. And if you have one thing wrong with you, whether it's a groin a hip as a couple injuries, I think Hammy one point. If you have something wrong with you, you can get exposed quickly in whenever you're out on an island by yourself in if a quarterback season, I think touchdown or to happen against in the first half, I believe against. Philip rivers, I believe touch on happened in the end zone. I think something else happened is well, you get exposed quickly in that can become a very miserable situation. If you're an elite corner and you're not at your top game. Now, granted, does that excuse just leaving at halftime? I don't think so. I don't think that is a cool thing. I think waiting until after the game is probably the way to go because there's guys that could have been brought up to the roster that are on the practice squad could've played. There's people that could've got opportunities during the week to showcase that, blah, blah, blah, all that shit. But I do believe he said in a statement, he didn't think he was good enough anymore and he probably got his own in his own headed after he might have went and took a shit. And while he's sitting down on John. I don't. I go back up. No way. Phil river. No, I'm not a top Gaiman now. He goes back out and he's done with it, but the teammates that's pretty disrespectful. I could see how a lot of the teammates did not enjoy it right, but for me as a teammate with him at the colts like I can everyone's going after him and I sent out a video congratulated. Because I like vantera a lot. I mean, I like a lot, but that was a bad, bad, bad move. I think he would minute to like in a couple, maybe in a couple of weeks if he comes on the show couple months thinking, right. I wouldn't think in Addis thought I had to get Patty. I can't wait quitting hall of fame. I respect a quitter. He's in my whole fame him France. What have time to very fresh on day. He thinks something else happened like like the play and they're like, no. Imagine playing as long as he did at the highest level being great. And then all of a sudden you. God dammit. I can't compete anymore. That's got. I would fuck off to. I would be just so devastated member. Macy's remember in preseason what's his face? Did Jon Ronson John Ross arena four two. He literally turned vaunting in a circle and that one viral viral with the quickness. And that is something where I'm sure got an his head, kept him moving as like, man, I ain't God anymore. Suck waiting till the end of the game is something definitely should do, and just have a conversation with your teammates and coaches saying, hey, like this thing like before I retired everybody on the Team New that I was done everybody. I told everybody at this point I did on comedy central, whatever. What I think that was the, he owed his teammates at. I think I do think that I think you'll even admit that at some point like, hey, I kinda fucked this one up, but the NFL is nonstop. Action and football is nonstop action. There's so much drama happening at all times. Last night, Todd, mccombs who is a detective for twenty years used to use a sip people. Don on the table in interview. I want the truth. He would say to these people, you can't handle the say. He put out a tweet about urban Meyer's interview that really made me go well. I didn't know that I watched bull which is about doctor Phil's life as a trial scientists basically comebacks week. Yup. Monday night new time, which sucks by the way on Monday night raw and now fucking boom. I three favorite shows are on the same God damn night. They let you tell your toes brought this up now. So bull there's always like curl did. There's really there's always like a like, oh, your foot is facing the door. Many, you're uncomfortable. I want to exit mama, blah, blah, blah. But they never dug into how people answer or look Todd. You send out a tweet last night. Those very interesting about the urban Meyer. Could you explain the whole situation please? Yeah, for the people that spent for hours googling to let me know that I wasn't thorough enough in my explanation in two hundred fifty characters. Let me expand to forty one fucking hate the most. But anyway, body language, I said, body language to simplify it. So it makes sense to everybody. Technically it is neuro linguistic programming. Weight is simply how your brain react. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on those people, all Google it, and it seems like you Google it as well. That word you just use there seems like you look that up with the. Remember that's part of the school. It's a very basic. It's Listrik programming. But if I say that people, you know whatever body language makes it simple to understand. So neuro linguistic programming is what how basically how your brain is best. I recall reacts to how you speak how you communicate in language speaking. So it used to cops would say, retie off a guy looks up until the right. He's being deceptive. It's not that simple. Then it grew to whatever is your writing hand. If you look up and toward the side of your writing hand and you're creating because that's how you right, right. And if you look to the opposite side, chances are you are recalling from. Right needs notes. So so I thought it was. I studied this too. Of course, you watch one hundred. Basically when he said the, he had the hadn't seen the photo of Courtney Smith until we could go and then corrected himself. And he looks up to that side. I've mmediately. I was like, oh, that was interesting as a guy who sat in a investigative chair and had to interview hundreds if not thousands of people, right? Yes. Same way like if I was at detective in that moment, I just out of habit wanting to grab my notebook. Right, three weeks. Question Mark photo. Right. 'cause I'm gonna come back and revisit that, and but then I had export is eve right handed check that out. I did. I thought first pitch at a baseball game. Right here. So so what's that was? I was like, oh, that's interesting. And for the people that were due going for hours responding, yes, one behavior. One single behavior isn't a one hundred percent and the the. The business? Yeah, sure. They're Colt every big ten school seems like falling, which is good for business. By the way I'm not. I'm not gonna knock. So basically if the like, all right, so I'm gonna take what I saw there and put it in a police interview setting. Right? So his interview would have started with baseline questioning. I would lay out simple easy to recall answers like instant recalls. Like what your birth, what your address, things like this, just to get you in the routine of answering truthfully without thinking. And then I would expand the baseline questioning to question or three about something that you have to recall from memory that you would have no reason to lie about. So in his case, I would be like. How long exactly have you known myth. That's not something you could snap off. That isn't something he's been rehearsed and right. He's had. He wasn't thinking, okay, this is the questions I'm going to have to answer. That's something you get him off of his, like whatever a telemarketer calls you get them off the script that's office. Yes. Got it. So then honest reaction. Right? So he's think now the rules should be. He looks up into his left, but however he reacts, you note it all right, because I know he's telling the truth and you had no reason to not tell the truth giving three or four questions like that, and then you hit him with the photo photo question and you look for an abnormality or something that's different and why we had here, boom. I'm like, all right now I'm onto something if I was that simply what I was saying the tweet is this is interesting because normally this would be something I would Mark down and really dive into. So without being there for the baseline questions, you can't one hundred percent. Saying that he was, which is I'm sure what the high state people like. Well, you don't know. This could be different. Everybody acts different, the brain snowflake. Everybody's deferent- criminal. I on the wall anything. But what you're saying is that was something whenever you want. Oh, like then I would so from then, I would like to ban I was cut him away sitting that chair the one interviewing him, but any tomor any decent detective would do? I would then since I made note of it, I would follow up with like more questions about that required more detailed answering about the time line. I'd be like, well, we're, we're you when you saw those pictures and making thinking, then I watch. I react some. Now I'm looking for multiple signs of deception that for on the same topic, right? We all know he knew, right. We're all in that role in that boat. So of course he was doing an interview, so we obviously had to look and make eye contact and all that. Like if you were interrogating someone and they just kept their head down there is down the entire time and answered everything they were looking at like a piece of paper from them. Would that be a tactic that would be useful against you in terms of trying to not admit anything to you? Oh, yeah. That's poker players who are sunglasses or turtleneck. Yeah. 'cause their heart would beat harder on their neck and I would always wear a hoodie and if I wouldn't wear sunglasses because I want to look at the person, but it's there's always ways to beat that. Do you guys make people take everything off? You try to disarm them as much as you can, and that's where like separates good detectives from gray detectors or good interviews degree interviews like take breaks, you reset you, you're like, oh, he's he's being way to guard right now. I'm just going to shoot the shit shit. Shit. I'm not gonna talk about anything important until until I see him open up and see his body language change a little bit. I'm gonna criminals. Do you think he became friends with just certain shit with thought you're becoming friends with them? Probably all of them. Ninety percent of them. I still think this could possibly all be a stink Todd working here. Yeah, I still think this is the biggest thing. Longest laundry list of evidence by now. It's probably Grigson hiring them. I need some shit fucking McAfee. There you figure out whatever he can do piece of shit double h of the paid narc. Now that was interesting to watch as reacting, and I definitely think he's bullshitting. You know, like the question I wanted to ask him once I get to that point would be like, so you you're going to tell me right now that there's no chance that anyone else would have told me or anybody else that they shared that picture with you via text message or Email prior to three weeks ago, and then I wanna see what he looks like when he answers dot EU and a lot of its body. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You want to narrow, he would ask for lawyer. The lawyer would do all the answering urban Meyer, yes, yes. Or somebody that status. Yeah, I think he issue here with her, but Meyer he's he's on such a big platform and he's supposed to be a leader of young men right night. It's this is that's like with Richard Rigas. 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I think you're gonna join this conversation. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man from Youngstown, Ohio. He was a running back for the Ohio State buckeyes and lead them to a national championship. Some contrivances followed led to him leaving the Ohio State buckeyes. His life story is one that I cannot wait to dive into an incredibly talented human who's been through a lot ladies and gentlemen, you can find them on the business in biceps podcast with Cory Gregory and John Fosko. He runs the red zone, a mental health and drug recovery agency. MAURICE chlorate. Pretty cool intro. Hey, I appreciate you MAURICE and I, I don't wanna take much your time here at loved the dig rate him because you have one of the most fascinating stories in the history of football, and I think your story does a lot of motivating and inspiring people about overcoming adversity and stuff like that. So let's get into it. You go to state you're being talked about is the greatest running back on earth. Is that some of the most precious times you've ever had in your entire life. One most precious. I would say yes, very notable. I think four for any kid, you know, when you when you playing football ultimately, you know go to a premier college in half success. You know, I think is is is a gold at that a lot of young guys have and that winter and to, you know, just teammates that were made practice. Our had memories, even though they were short lived. Those things were those things were better than great. They're fantastic and to accomplish so much in high school and then immediately go to college in our ten thirteen month span to accomplish. You know what we did in college. You know, I wouldn't trade memories four for the world. And you know those things happened back in two thousand two and three and still to this day on a matter where I'm at around the country, we were, I'm able to steal talk about those at least oppression to people that are lasting. Buckeyes fans love you for what you did for them with that being said to thirty thirty thirty thirty came out about you, and it seemed as if the AD wasn't the biggest fan of MAURICE claret or he wasn't the biggest fan of possibly the situations that were happening. Is there bad blood there between you own Ohio State? Or if bygones be bygones since then. For the story they made it. You know, for the national story came off, like, you know, I had a problem with a house state what it was actually just me in a in a tiff between Nath lake director. And at the time you take everything context context, you know, you know, he may have felt like he's got slighted for me. You had two big egos that were basically going against each other and you didn't culture, you know power and you do what race, you know, I'm inner city black kid who comes and makes his big splash on TV, and then I'm just being totally irresponsible, my power, and then you have him who who's not going to push around our disrespected by this kid who thinks he owes the university. And so I think if we we both had a chance to do over again that we will do it are we would do it in kind of a where it was, but you know me, you know how state we've never directly had problems though, is just a disagreement. Away of how do things at eighteen, but you know, eighteen years old and I'm pretty sure if you taking eighteen year old and you give him a tremendous amount of power in tremendous amount of a just leveraged oversee. We have more people saying, yes, rather than no, that that that they make the same station. So everything is between me and Ohio State now I don't make it down as much as I would like to be, you know, just a distance from universities about forty minutes from our thirty or forty minutes from my house, but usually make it to a couple of games a season. And I'm just happy to see those young off doing great things. These I don't wanna dive into the negative, but I feel like it's a huge part of your story in a huge reason why you're so inspiring your exit from Ohio State revolved around a lot of situations. There were death threats. I heard being involved. There's a lot of there's possible money involved. There's a rest. There was a murderer, I believe involved. What is everything? What is your side of the events that unfold there for you in Ohio states kind of kind of interesting separation. Oh, it was the, like I say, everything was dramatized on TV. My my reasoning forgetting left are leaving. How state was something like a fifty dollar check all of the allies that told insead overlays. So for every lie that told him that they went to investigate, you know, they, they gave me a sanction for anabolic hundred and twenty five sanctions, and they were asking me in this amounts of questions about teammates and things that may have taken place. But I, I didn't have a situation where I was taking chains and even a thousand dollars I didn't. I don't have a situation. I was taking thousands of dollars from boosters and cars from everywhere. Used a car for a used car dealership, the coroner broken into it in the process of the car, getting broken into our report, it the car being broken into all campus. And from there that was the extent of. The car situation. I happen to like an April of two thousand two thousand three later on that year they came back and they say, you know, how could you as a college student? Have you know, eight hundred dollars and three or four hundred CD's though CDs? I used to be back back in the day in those big bookcase, it's because you have those things and say, well, those things where they were actually in the car that I used to dealership because a car got repoed and the dealer kind of us the car because it was a cool looking vehicle at the time and that raise so much suspicion as if these are my items. And literally, if you if you go back to look into the and all that stuff is easy to get your hands on his public information. I didn't get to spend it for anything like that. It was like a fifty dollar check. I heard seeds for your fifty bucks receive from gentlemen to come to a kids party line can insead overlay about my whereabouts where I lived at odds condo, and I thought that that was legal at the time, but I li- him about where I was living at and just being formed coming about everything that they ask before is essential. Why got suspended? The turn came from this. Most people don't realize that when you do get suspended, your your university has to recommend the sanction in the in the crazy part about it at the insead delay shit that they would have been fired three or four days, but that you know, I actually recommended the entire season to spin the indefinitely, and that's where the bad blood became guy because he had an opportunity to say, hey, I'll sit you out three or four games. AA would have been totally fine with that because it wasn't like, you know, I accept fifty grand from a booster. They like this guy is lying bunch, which is pretty Monory, correct. Action plan. Excuse me, you know, slap him on the wrist or do something like that and getting back into the game. But the university wanted to make a bigger statement. The bigger statement was made because they knew they had Jim O'Brien, who was the basketball coach at the time getting ready to suspend this. They wanted to act like they were harsh on the stuff. So JIMBO ground who's the basketball. In the United. They're real good friends. And so the last heart tamales the disrespect he's given LS land white on Jim O'Brien, the basketball coach, a lot of politics, lot of stuff and found out after the fact, but you know, that's hotter debris, but gave you the story just because you know you act hopefully it was too much. It was amazing. I just learned so much that I never knew before because the thought the thought of the Gestapo NCWA finding down a sanction for every lie in eighteen year old tells them who straight out of the streets of Youngstown who's finally going to chase it alive like the adults didn't seem to act like the adults in this particular situation. They seem like they acted a lot more like Childs children. Here we go. The situation was calm Corey. So I had a booster in highschool gentlemen who was a booster club of high school friend our, he's a clip of art. He's a friend of program in getting shell from junior year ice Bill, right? And every month that he paid field, I was a different fraction. So instead of just saying, hey, you use a cell phone and it was legal Cavs, cellphone ice-cool every month that the Bill is paid. The people gave me an infraction. So. If you if you could round up, you know, maybe thirty six months. I was thirty six hundred and twenty-five fractions. You know what I'm saying. So you know, when you look into this, if you go look at other people, suspensions our highly notable and they got like a quarter of a million dollars when you when you shake everything out. You know, these facts aren't hard to find everything out. This is this is not not like some big scandal where you know POWs of money, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars just wasn't like that. There's more hand to do with Jim Brown versus AMP Geiger and MAURICE claret being person who disrespected anti nurse and, hey, you know, these guys lot about sending the home. So this was a pissing match, but it. But nonetheless a lot of learn from it. You know a lot that I wouldn't. You know, I wish I didn't have to go through, but nonetheless a lot with learn from it in a better person because that's all I can say eighteen years old though. I mean, so they fuck you over. You get suspended for a year that. Kind of turns your life into a complete different momentum that it was at your at Ohio State leading them to a national championship. I'm assuming the thought is a grind in this off season. I'm gonna keep it going, hopefully, NFL hopes with our everybody's talking. Instead, your life goes in the complete opposite direction in my correct. So you guys are spend it in probably the biggest time and you know, from being just football player, right? You know stress performance, but if easy, you know, if you wanna get better in the weight room, you go this way. If you wanna get better for speed and Juliette standpoint, you know, you go in, you know, run through some ropes or lift more weights or whatever you think you can do Tebessa to better become better. Asterix code actually happened was I've never dealt with personal stress. Right? And so when I was dejected from the actual university and I was kinda like put on the Sal on per se, I didn't know what to do it myself. I don't know what to do all that time and and dealing with all of that when it realizes that I found the the mood changer back in the bars, you know, back drinking back drug in back smoking, and you know, all this stuff just wasn't apart of my program prior to going to our state. Right. I was going to be like the next golden count and go with a couple of Heisman trophies and. You know, work my ass off. Eventually, you know, become, you know, become a one to become, but that's not kind of things played out. And what happened was I was just stressed out and so confused. And so you know, fucked up from the moment just to be blamed, but what you just smoking weed and popping pills and drinking and having a ton of sex with actually felt better. You know, when I look back on it, I wasn't doing nothing, but just trying to alter mood and an escape. Actually, you know what was going on. So you know, there's a few things. People can't teach you in being famous as one of them. You know, saying nobody tells you how to Stewart the saying that you that you receive on your either a professional athlete are collegiate athlete, and chances are if you don't have a good support system, you know when a huge adversity hits you, you kind of stay in the same situation, the fucked and literally kind of ice related myself. You know, the more success in guys feel felt like life was passed me by and innovation. I kinda like myself. You know, drinking and drug and became a thing, and I'm just trying to like less away from the world. You know, went out to southern California. I really thought that a hooky with Jim Brown going to excuse me LA at the time. He had a a program called American. We're helping guys transition from prison. I thought like is being around l. but when I got to LA was a completely different culture. You can drink and drug all day. Nobody says shit and still when I got out there, it was just it was. It was more of the same stuff about doing I o. And you know, when nobody's gonna like there to check, you are countable, you could become self destructive and not even know it. And that's what happened. And eventually, you know everything kinda cop to myself without going to the combine. I wanted to combat and thought like wholehearted. I was like mad. I'll go to combine and perform very well. And I'll kind of re correct everything, but just the abuse from prescription pills, a party, anything that kind of stuff and around everything came to a head on and eventually thing. Just kind of went downhill from there where you running. Were you selling drugs and shit like that? Or did I hear that wrong. Yes. So I was done with football, have a way to secure myself. So a little bit, you know, what am I going to take care of myself back into the streets? And so just like any other guy, you know, who's participating straight activity, you know, in between some dope marijuana? It was just kind of like my thing to do. You know, kinda how took care myself, you know, when you look back on it, you know. And I just wanna midget because you platform so huge in often times of these young guys go to universities and we actually think that were beating system by by going to these bullshit classes. You know, like when I was our state, I took, you know, officiating golf, -ficiating, softball independent studies and women's studies. And in the time in that time capsule you think it's a joke you are beating system during the football is no longer an option and you can't physically play and that universities in part of your life. You know when you've got kids responsibilities, and you have all this other stuff that is. That that are real things in life. You start to realize that you weren't hot shit that you were basically push those system and used for athletic ability. You know, a lot of these guys and we myself come from failing school districts, and I just think there's a responsibility that the university should take that, you know, even if we're not going to get you the of scholarships from here you can academically perform. We should at least take an initiative to raise your current level, reading their c- mathematics and everything else. And so that was just my two cents on this happen. You know, just turned back into the same character. I was, you know, before football started in Finchley you know what was doing before I got in football, I was into crowns and and I wanna stupid shit like young kids and football kind of saved my life. But once football didn't factor in my life anymore, I wasn't able to play turn back to the same key big ass game. You can play football who thought that, you know, just being gangster was more important than growing. Fuck up. And that's the nutshell, if that makes absolutely. It's at West Virginia. We had a lot of guys who couldn't even read, but they were there. And it was just a situation where you really do watch the university, just used them for their ability. Now, granted, they're getting a lot out of it to write a potential opportunity to get out of the streets, move up, move on, potentially make the NFL and all that shit. But if it fails, there's not a lot to fall back on. Whenever you degree is athletic coaching education, there's not really much can do. So I see that all the time and I respect you coming on speaking about it. Let's get back to did you work for gang? Were you being by yourself? Did you try to build your own empire? Oh, no, no, I really by myself, you not ran with Gaza my neighborhood. I come from Youngstown. We don't have gangs or not super prominent guys are are are more geographically. They are. He from the south side, you can hang from southside neighborhood are north south east side or west side wherever you have. So we just pretty much activity amongst me guys. My neighborhood too many talion two times. Yeah, yeah. We do have a. Wouldn't put a bunch of Italians, but we do have a bunch of talian in a rich Italian culture within the city of young style, too many man. I'm from Pittsburgh to many fucking Italian. You're right next door. Yeah, you're right. A lot of Italian. So now I see you do a speaking circuit. You're out there basically telling your story, and I assume that's to inspire motivate others that they can overcome adversity as well. Why don't you talk about that a little bit? How can people book if they want you to come talk your stories, incredible, and you coming out on the other side of this as professional in clean as you are is very remarkable. I hope you know that. Yeah. So I mean, most of most of my speaking engagements are booked that MAURICE click online dot com. I, I do three things speaking is probably the least of what I do is probably the most visible. And so I do think in the Gators I've spoken probably the over four hundred times to different universities, businesses, whatever, whatever you can name probably poking all on these different platforms, these different venues, but everything is booked through. Excuse me. I'm already online dot com. Also wanted on other bigger things I do is a business and biceps without Cory and John Fosko. That is one of the things I think I call my therapeutic platform, love those and what we're able to do on a weekly basis and also run the red zone. The red Zona where mental health recovery agency for adults and Atta leci- probably employees about one hundred and fifty people. Now where both in the city of Youngstown also. Oh Columbus, where I live at travel back and forth running both offices and places in a lot of alert either through mental health, I call it mental wellness, the importance of mental wellness and people being mentally fit in the whale and understanding that his thing just as much as we understand that physical fitness thing. And you know, if you wanna bare chest and triceps, there's many different platforms that you can go and find that, but understand that mental wellness Mitchell fitness to endure all the stresses and traumas and situations the life that those things and ultimately neglecting my mental health is kind of put me in a downward spiral for ten years, and I'm using a platform, and I going to speak to people until my story. I'm talking about in raising awareness and given that you that these are things but be through be personally speaking the platform to podcasts or the the, the, the technical part with our facility, social workers, counselors and everything. I love working with those people because you know, we we directly tie into. What's going on inside of the country. A lot of people going through personal shit be at trauma, the stress and being everything to you, I'd make and relating your mental mental fitness arguments condition in the linkage of the correlation to it is highly important. I'll just try to use my story to inspire to motivate and to encourage. That's fucking awesome. MAURICE, your hell of a human brother. Hope you know that from the streets Youngstown to what you're doing now is absolutely incredible. I, I do hope you know that you are inspiring, encouraging and motivating humans on a regular basis. I can't thank you enough for coming on the show and quick question though, an owner bring it back at any point that you think you were the next publis Kabar anything. When your sound. Just like everything else. I think every kid e- even when they're doing illegal activity, I'm saying, I think that every kid wants, you have success and they want to the best and what they're doing. And I'll say, just just to make it known. You know, some people say internet where they take things out of context and that nothing that I promote. You know what I'm saying? If I can do it all over again, I probably wouldn't do most of the stupid shit that I've done, but I'm happy to come out on the other side because you know, like I could've been dead, I could be in jail for lifetime. Couldn't be on his platform farther to you and and just being here being healthy being sound mind and being able to speak, you know, from where I'm at right now is a blessing to, so I appreciate the opportunity. My brother is cool. Like I had no clue at a platform was huge as it was just because I wasn't doubt into internet even though I'm only internet all the time dowdy, but. It's cool to see you transition and say what you've done. Two different heights being fellow football. Well, I appreciate that in not a lot of people know that I'm a monster. MAURICE itches. Live out. Out. I hate you so much man, marine claret online dot com. Business and biceps buck gas is a very good one in what you're doing with the red zones. Incredible. Thank you so much for opening up here, and it's nice to know that you do have that elite mindset, the no matter what you do, you want to become the best. I respect that so much ladies and gentlemen and absolute legend of human man. It's gonna leave a lot more good than any of these small negative. He has done in this world. MAURICE clerics. Thank you so much. Hey, cheers, manteca. Thank you. I loved it. I absolutely love that conversation with him. We got it yesterday in last night. I thought about it a lot. How about them stack and charges? Todd, like cops bullshit. It's a state trooper move right. Thirty six and fractions for the cellphone. Not just you have a cell phone each month. They paid is an infraction a sank Greeks and move bullshit. It was just the latest in. I've been anti for a long time. I think I might have been one of the leaders of the charge to bash the way back in. It's because I watch things that happened to my teammates in watch stuff happened. There's a lot of people that love the answer. I think does a lot of good too. I mean, college football, college, basketball, all the everything is just solid, you know, but God damn there some real badge, heavy sons a bit. I just don't know how they can sleep at night ruining. I mean, trying to ruin kits ruining the kid. They legitimately ruin MAURICE correctly. Yeah, they, I mean, steak I did as well, but the end of lay helped. I mean, that was ruining his. They sent him on a path of destruction back to discreet s- back mazing person, but usually. Wouldn't have had to hit rock bottom. Seems like they're just punishing not helping reform. You can do both. You can punish him for the. You can give them the sanctions, but you can also help him and guide him. So he doesn't fall into that streetlife day. Didn't see any more cash value. Exactly. So they just cut him loose. That's what it comes down to asking him if he thought he was gonna be blessed. By the way, I was very. Trying to move passing. Gotta ask. Did you think you're going to be a good drug dealer released? Did you like? Yeah, I wanted to be the best. He said. I know gangs gangs in his own little operation, respect, entrepreneurialism that business and biceps guess pretty cool to listen to the guy started muscle farm and sold it for hundreds of millions of dollars, Cory Gregory from Columbus, Ohio. John Fosko, who's a UFC agent, I believe back in the day and MAURICE clear at Chattanooga. Life is cool. I think you should go check that out that red zone things really cool. He's given back to the community that he felt probably he was a part of for a long time. That's awesome. It is really cool. I'm thankful MAURICE Klitschko. Yes, he was really, really open, really, really cool and very very thankful. Another guy who was really cool for me guy took me in under his wing when I got to the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen joining me now is one of my favorite teammates I've ever had in my entire life. He's a BCS national champion, a Super Bowl champion. A man who was a first round traffic for the Indianapolis Colts running back standing at five, eleven two hundred and fifteen pounds wore the number twenty nine Jozo of core who do. Died june. I love it. I love it. How are you? I'm doing I'm doing real good. We're down in Houston right now on full-time daddy duty, fulltime husband duty just live in the world down there. All this. I mean Houston. Taking the wartime here when I was in when I was playing ball, it's crazy. Enjoy being a father down there out again, I'm joined every bit of it. Good of your kid Jalen plane. All the musical instruments, dancing, you got some talented little kids down there. Locate, look, man. One thing I learned about football, man, and this is a serious part of it not put all your as one basket to call. Right? Oh, man, football is so controlled. And what I mean by. Who go to the NFL or the NBA and we know so many people short and they get hurt or whatever. So my thing expose even he likes playing football playing about about one or whatever. 'cause my can grow a little bit more. Well, I respect that a lot. That's good fatherhood by what will you let your kid play football? It sounds like you are letting him play football and stuff like that. I went to a whole with him, right. So the first time you wanted to play, whatever I flag football just to have fun in the next year. I actually took him to a little league football game the whole year. So insitute action to the ladies. They come out to play football because they player on TV catch the ball, and they don't really know what is going on out there. Right. So I want him to really understand understand the injuries understand all letting with their pet that they wanna play. So. I to be with him or whatever. I kinda micro manage him and make sure they not taking on any big hits or whatever. So he can enjoy the game as a running back. You're talking about a position that get slaughtered on a very regular basis. How's your body? How's the brain? You are a BCS national champ Super Bowl champ just the a running back legend. How's the body? Has the brain feel after the wear and tear man aren't? Do we have twice a week. You're trying to maintain their my back. My showed of having a little little interest of whatever lingers on the running back position. Man, I loved it, but that's something I would not let my kids play because of what you just said that man, you get hit you you when you have the bug, you get hit when you. Protecting every place. So that's something that I do not play that to this d. Do you watch Todd Gurley or the running back position now in, do you understand? Why do you feel for why left bell is not performing, not showing up, or do you think he should for fourteen million in the franchise tag be there? Or do you feel like, hey, he's gonna get drove to the ground here when this is just a one year run a player basically for the Pittsburgh Steelers, I'm man. I don't know the hears about what's going on him, but I think about life after football, right bail ever died in. I'm selling tickets that his judge was sold them thinking about all day. Not gonna come out on top meaning his body, his mind, right once team to win the bag is one dollars visit. So I think he wants to get his money up front and on that. He don't do a lot of damage throughout his political. I don't blame him for trying to get more money. Me neither by the way I was not at all pet man. Listen Costa me. I have something that man, I'm limping. I saw your video man. I have to go use the bathroom on thirty minutes to get to the restaurants. How old are you? Thirty five. God damn living like seventy down there like an old as a pill someday look good, but some days it gets bad man contract. I talked to the fan. I kiss Pittsburgh still saying yesterday at my phone's concert, and she was talking to me from a point of view, and I understood with fans. To be entertaining. I get that part of it or whatever, but they don't consider everything. They don't look at the bigger picture. You get don't come in from from what somebody. So it's not so much about ODI but making money. This is the standard. This is the standard or whatever. So they have to live on the standard. It doesn't mean, oh, I'm I'm getting a million dollars on bliss million dollars is a lot of money. But when you look at it from that perspective is not a lot of money. When you think about you're doing the same thing that other guy that dawn on your payments, just bigger these other guys or whatever you want the same type of money. I get that. And when I explained that to she understood it, you were one of the greatest teammates I've ever had in any sport, and I'm saying that as is the, no, you took me in as a friend when basically nobody else. All the white dudes were all super odor. The only other white guy really in my draft class was a Mormon who was fifty five and married. So you you. You in Clint session. Took me in when nobody else really would you're the greatest teammate I've ever had, man, I'm glad I could be that. Could you man. I remain a friend man, outsiders football. That's one thing that I love about this boot ball man that you have a long time with you man. So I'm glad can be that person till you man, Clint session, dumbest human. You've been. Fishing. That he's a different character. That's what I'm saying. I love that. Dude, man, I, I love that. We'll talk about other day Clint session. Is somebody that made me join pleading for the cold man, this coming to meetings or whatever. Right. You know, you're going to get something crazy, Clint. I remember once I was a Clinton house and I was, I think we're in his living room and he had NFL network on TV. And some talking head was saying something and he made me stop talking. So he can listen to this talking head and I was like, I'm sorry. And he was like all day money gave me some clues on what they're going to do. This. His acquaintance. Yes, like Clint remote. You know what we talk about a whole bunch of stores, Clint, but I don't think it'll be appropriate. You already know what. Right? Especially though he has some crazy stories or whatever that he only believe that's the that's what makes Clint Clint Clint led the coats and tackles for like four years straight. And it was so interesting to me on how he had. Ofensive football for dummies book in his liver. I never I. I was on vitamins over there and I was just looking around his guys like elite linebacker. Mike wonder why he's so good. And I see this offense for dummies book like it has been red, and I just started crying laughing. Twin. Something like that. It has to be him right. You like that type of guy. To house your whatever works bag. Clear Clinton knows how was your Mario Kart game? He's still play with your kids. I played with my oldest. He understands that game, but he's more into mad live and fortnight lead or whatever. So sometimes I'm on the Mario Kart my some of the guys or whatever of not being around like red meat, rich talked about myocardial tall. He wrote up day. How was that that we Glen? Yeah, some of the play in trying to Campbell, whatever, man, I don't. Because they into the new stuff. Now, what are you gonna do? Are you going to get into to chatting about football on TV or on the radio, or you just kind of hanging out, what is the future? I mean, I I have have a gym on the no side. That's that's one thing. But before this is my perspective on sports period or whatever. I, I don't. I don't watch football like that. I watched the coat and watch LSU. I may pick a game on extra game on Sunday to watch, but I'm not watching football like that to the details as far who's doing what, even when. What was going on, but I don't know the ins and outs of what's going on. So I don't think I'm there yet to be able to have a full conversation about what's going on in the NFL. You cut them dreads. I cut it was too hot. Oh. I want to act. Donna. This is my first time on a gun even though my parents from there. This is my first time officially going to gun and thinking not just had in gun the way it is a huge. It's all done is, oh. Not only that, man, I'm getting older and not to say I don't the childish thing, but I have boards than I do want them to see me different from them. So even approach to the way I dress or the way I look, I want them to be as daddy and not see me as their equal and drizzle was one of those things cut up just to kind of Bill to the nays next phase in my life. Are you a hard asset. No, no dad man risks like with that, but we seen it. We've seen everything we've seen the ins and outs, and that's one thing about does man. You get so many different characters that you see and you can pick up on certain things don't come in from, and I think that's how I like to describe myself with my kids as far short of different things. The conversation. That's one thing that we didn't do a lot grow another help conversations and we know how much conversations to make someone grow. So that's the thing I'm always doing this talking to my boys and I may talk a little bit too much or whatever, right? I wanna make sure they're getting all of Mason, but I think I'm a likable death. Well, that's good. What's your favorite memory from playing for the colts. Favorite memories man with the fellow man. I remember. Okay. One member. Did I gotta my hitters ridge? Reggie. I missile Reggie about this man. I feel like he scares all those rookies that comes in fucking talk to the guy. Joe. I was at your house times a week. Pay. What's over Reggie pets way Loa he's going to be okay, right. I promise you rent came in stores, right? So when I came in right, I just like you say Macquirie person, but I came in pain, did what he did. You're listening thing. You need to let me know everybody over. We don't do what we do with any questions you have. Right. Just like a quarterback sit about, okay. He made me feel comfortable. Marvin Harrison, Marvin Harrison. Butch is my last name. He pushes it. He called me a data of something. All the news. You've been watching the draft and I'll get my name right. Anything? No. Have enough editorial how you doing. Then whatever. Now you come to Reggie, Reggie came to introduce themselves, but it was like a scary introduction, right? Reggie Wayne and I feel like on the one hand pet. He wrote my hands on his pants. He had something on. Right? Because the way he did it. Okay, I gotta get you gotta get the respect of the older guys. You've got this thing you have to do. Right. So. The first year, where did you cone all season? Joe, you're gonna be much my roommate pertaining China camp. Click. That would Kodak same thing? No, I was excited to be his role. Nate. You see what I'm saying? When you came and told me store, like I know exactly what you're going through. He's going through. He is a horror that he could scare someone eight years later. He never fucked calling. I thought he hit him white people. I know fuck. No, I never have a conversation with. I thought he hated white people joke. I thought he hated white. No, not at all out of there. I think that New Orleans righteous naturally just he has to disdain about or whatever, right? He's a great, but when you meet them you, you almost get you almost got a big twice before you go up the Reggie, and that's what it is about him. So he didn't talk to me for like two years. We just so happen to be on the same plane back from Fort Lauderdale back, Indianapolis, he's flying back home. I don't know if off season or something like that. I was down there vacationing and I got on the plane. I, I'm flying first glass. I've money. It's nice. So I get up there and I'm sitting in the front row and I got on early and I just, I Don, I might have passed out or something like that, and I wake up and we're already in the air like forty, five minutes into the flight in I hear a voice to rose back. That's fucking Reggie wait. So I do a little turn around and I can't see him because the seat, you know, and he's talking to this white guy and I'm like, oh, that must be agent or something full. Fool conversation laughing. They're laughing, Joe, like Joe vio- high fiving in then when the when we go to get off the plane, the guy goes very nice meeting you Mr. Wayne. On like this. All right. Like he. Joe, I was not happy about it. I was. Understand. I understand what you went through the you gotta get regimental on yourself. You got to you got to talk about this. I don't know. Robber. Math is one of the most intimidating humans on earth. Good friend of mine. You good friend of mine. Reggie fucking way knows your conversation, ten years of potentially knowing them. You look back on your time in the NFL positive, you say overall. I would say that I, I would actually say that I will say that man because once again, football man is the pie one. The only sport that you need for next guy to be successful you give coming from when basketball it doesn't matter. Point, guard shooting going. Everybody gets the chance to shoot the ball. Everybody gonna change the show, take skill. So the way I look at football in sports together, it's a privilege, right? It's a privilege to play it because everybody can get a chance to play. So in my mind is automatically a positive. You give them coming from yet ever reason if bars us running the ball, like toward the end of my career, whatever did go so well or whatever. I have nobody to blame nobody. But in the birth, whatever the case may be is football. It happens that way to me, I feel like it, it went well for me. Well, I think I would agree, man, your college, champ pro champ, and it sounds like you're dominating this don't think do. Now, granted take thirty minutes to go. Take a shit is an old man thing he might need. We might need to get you one of them buttons. Like if you fall in health. Lifeline alliterative life alert. That bright in the right now. I kept my wife every time. I'm going to the rest of them stuff. I don't come out. All right now. Hi, we'll tell the family. I said, Hello, Joan. So thankful you joined us, keep dominate. I can't wait to see what you do in the future. Once again, thank you so much for being such a good teammate and friend whenever I was young man, I appreciate that a lot. I have me all main anytime and getting a call. I won't put you on blast at the moment. Do who. Whatever it is. I got scared. You still dance with the vitamins every once in a while. No, your father force, you don't. All right, perfect. Ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen. Legend of a human being in what I learned is when people say it's Africa, hot is wrong. Say completely wrong pet lifting. Maybe an indie wants to where and and you go to Africa, okay, you will be. But me being from down south being in Houston in Louisiana Africa's not this hot. I'm telling you that it's not it's different. It's I was sweating out there. Don't get me wrong because the climate, right. Anytime he goes to the tropic you don't feel it right. You go to Jamaica. You go to Bahamas. You feel something no matter what? Because the climate is different, but in the states when you go outside, you almost have to put on glasses. Right? Just because the state your whatever over there I didn't have to do that even I didn't have to do this all of that stuff I'm thinking about. I'm not side at two o'clock out there in Ghana Houston. I don't come to them and thirty. He'd come from the heater different or whatever, right? Like I know the world was that giving for the the temperature, I'm thinking every places hot Africa's had right the the perception of in so hot down there, whatever. Now you coming down, he you get chance to go down there and compared to is horrible. Man. The pause. The weather better to stay safe down there. If you don't make it out to seven thirty, you probably start making that trek from your bedroom, but six forty five to make it out to your front door, senior house down places. Beautiful, Joe, thank you so much for joining us. You're the absolute man. Are you on the internet at all? What are your social media handles people can follow along. Joke of a diet ever went three on Instagram, same thing, but I'm just on Facebook and Instagram. Well, we appreciate you so much lays gentlemen champion of life. Joseph died. Thank you. Joe. Hey, good luck with the kids. Donner. Hey, the vitamin answers. One of the funniest answers have heard mine. I have a good one man. I love Jomon these, the coolest man. I'm a big fan dude. He did a lot of good for the coach to the player. He was on his way to get a MVP SuperBowl MVP there the time we lost the saints. And then all of a sudden, you know everything happened, whatever it is and by the way hanging out with him and Clint session was a good time as they taught me a lot, something wanna life as he was also incredible. Mario Kart Joseph. Diana, Mario Kart setup in his living room. That was awesome. I go to possibly be Zito who's the greatest Mark or player I've ever seen on the greatest. 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Yeah, I Said It!: Theres a razor thin line between success and failure for the Steelers

Behind the Steel Curtain

50:00 min | 4 months ago

Yeah, I Said It!: Theres a razor thin line between success and failure for the Steelers

"Pittsburgh steeler fans welcome back to another episode of Year I. Set it. For those of you on Youtube, and even for those of you listening on Podcast, you can tell that this is not lance. Williams? This is behind the steel curtain editor Dave Scofield I'm stepping in for Lance Lance's dealing with some minor ailments at the moment. I'm just going to call it I. Personally I think it's because you know. The man turned fifty and I was getting old I. Don't know you gotTa. Bust on Lance a little bit. But I'm here for episode of Yeah I said it, and I teased it in our in our twitter to say I might have someone joining me for this show, so actually do have someone that is going to be joining the hair, so I'm gonna go ahead and bring him up and say hey, hey, buddy, how you doing today. Hire. Good it's great to be. You're you sound terrible? You sound you know maybe just a little bit too angry. Snap into that snickers. Cigarettes. What a difference! That's yours make. Hey, what's up? Yes for those dog once? You might not understand what's going on, but if you heard it now, yes, this is one. Former editor behind the curtain. On to talk some steelers with me today, so we're gonNA, talk about the steelers stuff I I didn't agree to that. We're going to you. Know what? I'm trying to see down the bottom. I'm wait for him to finish his Katie and then we will actually bring back in we. Don't WanNa live cameras, he. Chews on a Candy Bar, but yes I just happened to be Story was I was. I was actually communicating with Jeff today because. I help run softball league. And there was a fire or one of meals and Jeff played their last night, saying Hey Jab. Yeah, how was it and everything and just talking up like I'm going to be doing the podcast later days ago? What time you going on and I'm like? Who after you know hopefully around four o'clock why you WANNA come on. Sure, I'll come on and hey, I'm not gonNA turned him down, so we have Jeff Hartmann sitting out. How are you this afternoon? I'm great great. It's Friday. Excited to be here. It's I've missed this place I tell you that missed jabbed. Miss Talking with you. All about steelers football in a you'll skinner, said like came off a bender I agree he's in. I'll be honest with you. Brian's the PODCAST director so I said Hey. Yeah, there's a chance that maybe just Komo's Brian is like Oh, I got this. Brian's intro this was his idea of what an excuse to eat a snickers. What really was man? I have not had a candy bar in months. Because you know I'm dropping down to sixty five. I'm my lowest weight ten years. And but today look good that sneakers was. It was the mini. It was the bite, so the fun size, which is not fun by the way it's not. A little bit of candy. I've always had a problem with that. They fun size, but I think a fun I think enormous. I think is something huge and I'm like okay. We're just allowed to have a little bit of fun I'm like not fun okay that. I I digress. Can I make a comment? Meyer at the softball field that means. Jefferson was burning up the base paths. Burning about their. The outfield smelled like burnt popcorn best. A survey well, people are probably wondering how the word of the softball field catch on fire because it's. Drier works off. Week it's been very dry and they hadn't had to mow the grass sense and they went over, and apparently when they were mowing the grass, one of the pieces of debris still had something live with it and when the mower hit, it sparked it and. Wish luckily no one was hurt. Except for the grass on the field so. That's that's an intro. That's an intro there. Let's talk about some stuff with steelers. We talked about it last night on the preview that that we mentioned about the situation going on with the Washington franchise, and and not just the name change, but the the breaking news that happened with that yesterday. And unfortunately, because I'm still so busy, I don't feel like I have educated myself enough on the topic to come on and tell you all everything about it, so you all are probably has educated about as I am. So I'm just going to direct you to behind this curtain dot com where Jeffrey Benedict. He had a piece of went out there this afternoon. which covers that we just don't want to act like we're ignoring the issue, because ignoring the issue is not the right answer in the circumstance, so but at the same time we also want to make sure we have the that we're bringing things to you. Fully and accurately which? I also admit that I. I'm not able to do it this time. So. There's also some other stuff that's been the website and this is kind of what we're. This topic came from tonight and it was an article. We actually did in two parts. called. The what ifs of the two thousand tents? And it was if this wouldn't have happened. How would that have changed the steelers season? For, those of you might not have seen this article it. It really laid out some some crazy stuff. It started off with you. Know what if what for Charbonnet Hall had two fumble in, and I'm going to get the number on in the two thousand ten super bowl you know and let onto forty forty forty five. Okay? Yes, forty was in two thousand five, so yet had to be forty five. So. That was that was a question it went through the entire decade brought up the issues of what if Joe Haden wasn't called for that pass interference. Against against either one of the pass interferences states. and. It got me thinking. And I've talked to you guys about this. How? Narrow? It really is in the NFL between a win and a loss. I mean one thing doesn't go your way, and you go from the two thousand, seventeen thirteen and three steelers who won who pulled out a lot of those close games to the two thousand eighteen. Nine six in one steelers who missed the playoffs just because they didn't come through on the right on the right end of those close games. It is a razor thin margin of error. What Jeff. Wouldn't you? As a former coach and everything I think you and I talked about this before. There's times in every game it could. It comes down to one or two place. Does. Yeah, that's Joe Gibbs. Famous Washington COGGI's to say. Is it a game of football? When the winner and loser can be boiled down to sometimes three or four plays, and it's the truth, and you always have those two yards in a cloud of dust, which me nothing, but then you have that pivotal pass interference call in the end zone. You have that. fluky bounce that goes one teams way, not the other I always think back to two thousand seventeen. Sunday night football Green Bay packers at Heinz Field Not Aaron Rodgers. Hunley was I believe now wasn't hunting. It was what was his name is a quarterback I drawn. Talk. About. You're right I was. In he was shocking. Everyone in all of a sudden, it looked like. Oh, my Gosh! The Green Bay packers without their all pro quarterback might come into Pittsburgh and beat him and Worn Brand Tonio Brown's bread dig yetlis catch on the sideline where no one thought that he got his feed in no one thought that he had possession of the football turned into a Chris Boswell field goal in. They ended up winning the game and it was. Users think about what could have happened in terms of. Let's say his. He didn't have possession of the ballers TAP Down Bounds. They lose that game now. The sudden it's a totally different in the in the article. The which I read today. highlights a lot of is inserted part one a lot of those scenarios where it's like. Wow, this. Just what happened different? There's a ripple effect, definitely a ripple. Brian. Those you WANNA highlight owner. Your thoughts on I. Love Those those are great, and let's go back to a very glorious Pittsburgh steelers win. Two thousand five well, it was January fifteenth of two thousand six. It was the divisional game. But, if something does not happen, not just in that game with the very night before a domestic dispute between Nick Harper and his wife, which led to her stabbing him in the leg. We have a kitchen knife. If? That doesn't happen. Maybe Nick Harper. Drew Bettis fumble all the way back for a touchdown, and the colts beat the steelers in that game. There's no super bowl. Forty victory the Seattle Seahawks, Jerome Bettis, he goes off, and he retires in I. Don't WanNa see disgrace, but on a down note. So. Thin Line. Yeah, there's a very thin line. It's razor thin between success and failure. Yet. There's so much more to that game you know. If I, always say what if and This is me not really conspiracy, theory, or anything like that but I'm telling you. The NFL wants games to stay close as long as possible and I'm sorry. Trick Paulo Malou intercepted that ball road over, and as he was getting it up, his knee knocked it out of his hand, and they call it incomplete on an overturn not just that they would. that. They thought that was evidence to overturn. That was to be that as example number one of the NFL. Wants to keep the Games competitive for as long as possible that ended that game, that game was going to be done at that moment, and it's not that I'm not saying that. The NFL wanted the colts to win, which they probably did, but they at least one of the game to be closer for longer than that, and so there's so many things in that game which then leads leads to a superbowl steelers. The steelers have the experience the playoff experience to them when the Super Bowl three years later. You know it's a big ripple effect, but that's what if that's about all the what ifs. The question is how do you keep those what ifs from happening and burning you all the time? Because that's what to me, I still say. That is the difference between two thousand, seventeen and two thousand eighteen. You can even say it was. The the amazing leg of Chris Boswell in seventeen to whatever happened to Chris. Boswell, when eighteen. That I want to on one player, but I'm just like just one little thing is the difference between you know a one point loss in a two point win. So. What how? How do you control your own destiny more? Is it really all up to chance on some of these fluky plays or not? What do you think Jeff? You need to have luck on your side. That's important in any sport. Whether it's you know you think about your golfing. And you hit one into the trees, and somehow it spits it out and you still have a shot like this. I. Mean there's no skill involved, but you've acted chosen eighteen. Just think about some of the things that the steelers could control that they didn't. Really untimely fumbles and that was. Could be a sentiment for two thousand and nineteen as well. You think about Juju Smith Schuster fumble against Baltimore Week five in overtime you think back to into doesn't eighteen the fumble against the saints you think about James. Connors fumble against the browns. All these circumstances that the ball doesn't downstairs way, but the ball shouldn't be bouncing in the first place. You. Know so in that regard. If you do your job not to steal, you know. The slogan from that guy at North. At, the same time, if everyone just does their own job in, you don't have to leave it to chance all the time. Chris Boswell had a horrific two thousand eighteen season, but at the same time if they would have converted more than. You have had to rely on his leg to win games so I. think that there is a Lotta luck involved, but I also think that if a team goes out there, and they take care of business and I don't mean necessarily from running up the score in dominating by seven touchdowns, but not fumbling the ball, not turning it over. You know taking advantage of opportunities I. Mean How many times we see defensive back before Minkah Fitzpatrick where the ball hit them right in between the numbers, and they don't catch the football and it's. It's an easy interception. can't convert. Sites Elton Seventeen against the Patriots yet. Is the first one I thought of. Brian disagree or you might have another topic to bring into that, but that's what I think. I didn't get a control which you can't control. I agree with everything you're saying, but I want to add one thing. Go for the throat, so I've been watching a lot in a lot of old shows. Excuse me, not old shows old games from the seventies, the late seventies, even the eighties, and when Chuck Knoll was coaching even. Even seasons when Pittsburgh wasn't that great? I'm talking eighty, four, eighty, seven or eighty four, they went to AFC championship game, but those are not the story teams of the eighties and nineties. The two thousands excuse me the seventies, the ninety s thousands, but they scored quick. They scored often, and they went for a whole lot more. There's a lot more conservative approach for the Pittsburgh steelers where though rely on their defense more instead of taking chances and scoring more more often also. Not Being Conservative, when you're protect when you're up by fourteen, because this generation of the Pittsburgh steelers seems to lose leads a whole lot more than they ever did before. There's not much that I complain about on the coaching and of the ball, but sometimes the approach without going for that throat. Here's the thing when you put your boot on someone's neck. This is not not don't go out and do that. Condoning any violence, but you go for the kill in Spartans. You go for the kill and you've got to do it a lot quicker to not let those those little tiny instances. Just mess you up, so you widen the mart? Yeah You. Guys have really sum this up really well. You really have and. But of course you know I'm GonNa have to throw something else in their coach Tomlin says this all the time when people want to ask him about a bad call or something like that, that really affects the game. I think back to the to the chargers game in Pittsburgh in. In twenty eighteen with the constant false start penalties that were not called and things like that going on and things of those nature. and His answer always is. We can't put ourselves in a situation or something like that is the determining factor. And that's what it comes down to. If it's just all those games I if if you're season's success, is the difference between all those games having to go your way versus none of them going your way versus fifty fifty split. then. It's going to be really hard to get all the way to the Promised Land and hoists that Lombardi. You've got to be a team. That's just still a step above that. When when those things don't go your way, you can still get the win, and that's seems like that's always been. What? Usually you know it'll thirty one team summer nowhere close, but could be grouped into that category every year because it takes that team. So sometimes it just all goes their way. It really does, but you could have everything. Go your way and nothing go for the other team, and that other team can still win. You know that almost is what happened in well. One two week three last year. But now we also chalk that up to you know. The James Connor Fumble in San Francisco, but that was almost one of those games that the niners didn't do it. I mean they had all those turnovers into anything right and yet they still able to overcome and win that game so. Bottom Line is you've got to be good enough to take that luck. To take the luck factor out of it more often than not. Would you agree with that Jeff? Yeah Yeah I mean I, think the. Teams that I mean I'm saw it. In seventeen teams almost always have that lucky streak. It's GonNa. Run out sooner or later. You know it just is the the ball that. We talked about this a lot last year on our podcast. took the ball away so much. Can you actually rely on that again in. That's difficult to do because you can't I mean yeah, you can. Always a strip sack is phenomenal. You can't always rely on that play, and that's where the offense was just so. Awful but Job Man is driving me nuts in the live chat. Buff come on. How many? How many times has he mentioned brought? All! I've been looking, but. See now I had something to say. What it was so I'll just say. Seattle has two losses. where? I am quite tired. I do have very I mean all everybody in my family. There slits no. We're we're I'm not used to doing doing. PODCASTS with natural sunlight this time of day, so it's like you got a little bit because the sun's coming in your. Room, people might just be happy that they can actually see me without me to turn on lights and bring him into my room, but. I learned this Dave Jeff. I learned this in ninth grade history class that the KGB used to go after people at four am or four PM. Because that's when the by the human body is the most tired. For some reason now I don't really know how to. How to back that up with any fact but. I remember my ninth Grade History Teacher saying that and I always thought that was really cool. So there you go I'm going to jump in and say I was run a little bit late and I'm struggling right now because I usually have a four PM Cup of coffee and I can feel that four pm going on, but. Maybe, maybe we should, we should come back and. Bring it back to the steelers, and we want to go back to the KGB talk. You get it all here. Hasn and your steelers all in one place. I'm just glad you said. You said ninth grade history, not seventh grade health because you just never know what to. I way I bet you guys have some great stories. On what. Health Yep. Our. Stories dot questions I have received in seventh grade as a teacher, but add. That's a show for another time well I'M GONNA. Ask you a bunch of questions after the show. Out. Big. Nine today explained is making a whole summer series for kids. In Hey adults. You'll like it to seven. This week were logging a big corona virus mystery six. Will. We have a vaccine five? We get serious with science when the virus goes into the body. It's like a little soldier on a secret mission. I mean not. Fit Foods flaming is also really sticky at the same time like maple, Syrup. For. Scientific lose to find the answer. Open this door over here, too. One why why? Why? Why? Koop back with us to the island of explained every other Friday wherever you find, the today explained podcasts. Ryan brought up something here. That said about you. Go for the throat everything and it's kind of like the old saying that. I don't know where it comes from, but I know I've heard a lot. Prevent defense prevents you from winning. When that goes into that, prevent defense so early because they have a lead, and you get more worried about protecting the lead then you do. You know doing your thing and winning the game. We've all seen it so many times. We've seen how how it's all about momentum because it's all. A game because we saw it in the super bowl a few years ago I mean we all remember twenty eight to three. You know once a team comes back from that far down and ties the game. It's very rare that they don't win it because of of rolling back, so that's why you know. That was a lesson in the Super Bowl on the biggest stage that every team needs to remember now that they're like we don't let up. We don't let up. We don't let up. steelers didn't really have a chance to let up all last year, so that's something that I would like. I hope this is an issue that we that we have to talk about. In Two thousand twenty is at Oh. Man, we don't want the steelers to let up because that means they are getting leads and playing well. But they need to create their own. You can create your own luck, not by creating the luck, but by not letting luck effect you so. Why go ahead Jeff. I mean. They led the League takeaways last year and averaged eighteen points a game. They never once scored thirty points in an entire season. I mean think about that like think about how dreadful that is. In San Francisco game, they were gifted field position in the first quarter in. Did what they scored three points I think correct me if I'm wrong. They had three turnovers in the first quarter and I think they got three points of this turnovers. I think I think was six. Did they get feel goals I? Because I didn't okay, I think both of them. They were in fuel range got the turnovers so one of them they got pushed out. Because rough got sacked, it was a he was flushed out of the pocket and then add upon it was awful. I. I hope and pray that they have a chance to protect a lead because they never had that last year. You think back even to the Games that they won big Monday night against Cincinnati. They weren't. They didn't come out the gate. Really strong. They eventually took them over. And you know we also have what happened with Dalton. Et Cetera even the Monday night or against Miami. It was not a it was a close game. I was there I know. I don't know, but now that the offensive coordinator is back from injury. They, might, they might be in better shape to score points position, and be able to take advantage of those those turnovers. I was in the stands in two thousand, seventeen in the playoffs now little bit so I guess it was technically two thousand eighteen but the two thousand seventeen season I was also there for the earlier game with Jacksonville, so the fact that it was Jacksonville I was a little Leery, but there was something about that two thousand eighteen team that even when they got down, you still felt like they weren't completely ever out of it because they constantly kept finding away to win and finding a way to the way to win. The problem is you can't do that every time. Because all it takes is one time you come up just short which you know three-point short now granted. They scored. Basically time was expiring. To make it that close. All it takes is one one. It's this isn't. This isn't NHL. This isn't NBA. This isn't MLB. You're not doing best of seven in the playoffs. It's win or you're done, so you you can't. You can't rely on I'm going to have that magic moment to come back and win nine nine out of ten games down the stretch because it's not one loss. It's GonNa. It's GonNa. Keep you from getting there, so you you have to be able to. To. Set Your own destiny, and that's why the the whole point of yeah I said it. There's a razor thin. How do even remember how he said it? said it raises. yeah, it's razor thin line between between success and failure margin of error. Things like that. That's why because that's the nature of the NFL. If you're if you don't want if you don't want that line to be razor-thin, then you've got to. Rise above that constantly, if you flirting with that line all the time eventually, you're going to end up on the wrong side of it. Jeff can I petition the behind silk. Curtains podcast platformer lease on together that anytime. The two thousand seventeen divisional playoff loss against the Jacksonville Jaguars mentioned. It's not referred to as the two thousand seventeen playoff loss John oates debacle. I feel like that is right. It's justified if it weren't for that. I could say a few words, the adjective, not so nice adjectives to describe the horrible rendition that he did to. Our Star spangled banner the just the steelers. It killed him for the NE. and. Thanks for coming. PODCAST A Better, but he just Jeff Outta here. All right. Now. It's it's going to come in place for those of you bite of joy late. We brought our buddy. Jeff back for Shelly, said he was I, was chat with today's said. I'm around couple with. US, come on, let's let's talk some steelers so. So, so that's why Jevons here, but it's funny because I being at that game I don't remember the Star spangled banner all ever Missouri. It was very forgettable. He's a rock and Roll Hall of Famer Shrine I just saw him in concert, in February, and he was absolutely amazing I mean Gosh. Layoff Johnny OATES. Legend. John John oates debacle. Different, because that was the game where? You couldn't take the clip of the game because it was, there was flooding in Pittsburgh. It was flooded out. I had to take the train over and I get on the train I'm like where's my coat? Whereas my coat I forgot my coats IDA sit there without a coat on in January in Pittsburgh and watch the game so yeah I was that guy, so that's always gonNA end. If they one, it would have been a big deal. You know, so. It is what it is, but. My brother was at that game and he says he doesn't remember it either. You know why because when you're there. Think about it. You know what? Gary for coming back I'm jumping in. Our Here's. Christina Aguilera Tobacco when she actually messed up the national anthem. Did. Screwed up. Or. Maybe it was. That was the problem. So. We don't call. It sounds then. I. John? Touch own zone of and he's a champion singer, six number one singles in his career. And you know what if you call me? John oates of podcasting I would be proud. And he drops the MIC with. The giants rockall is vital forever. Be referred to. The Chad Denton Frank Web. Fresh. Frank Web in and Dick sign or they. They talk about him all. In Your Absence Continue I'm. Just Frank Web Story. I'm really I'm really concerned because. Get. Rodgers. Deputy editor Michael Beck. He's doing his ADC ninety. Man Almighty men on the roster going through one day at a time I'm afraid by the time he gets to one frank web. That that he's not going to. You know it's not I mean. Every to get there to where he could finally bus that out, and by that time it who knows how the roster's are going to be, but I'm GonNa, come back and ask you guys this because I like looking to the future, but we also got to learn from the past and that article. Yesterday and today the first five yesterday the next five today. Fantastic makes you go, check that on the site. I really wish I would've brought it up because it's cast going to mess up the numbers, it's cassidy. Nine seven seven, I think is the author for that one. I got the numbers wrong I apologize, but I guess six, seven, five, three, zero, nine actually I. think that might might be better. Was it or was it four one one? I don't know. We we can learn from the past to prepare for the future in the two thousand ten's. When the steelers had all this amazing talent supposedly, but yet they never won with it. Was the problem that they were they were, too. They played too much at that razor thin line rather than above it. That's the ultimate question. Are you playing at the? If you play below the line, guess what? You're going to have the losing record and you're GonNa talk about how you know next year's draft. Pick Copa Nets in the top ten. You know that's not the Pittsburgh steelers to me. The Pittsburgh steelers are always either playing at that line, or above that line now in two thousand seventeen I. Don't know that they were playing above the line, they were just planning on the law on the line, and so many things went their way and what's. What's sad is the one game where the things didn't go their way. which a lot of people brought up as we will call you, know Jesse James caught that ball is what that's known as that. If the steelers would've had that all look how different things would have been, but they needed that to go from thirteen and three to fourteen, and to in order to be successful I mean you're a thirteen and three team and you have to. And you have to have all you have to get the right breaks or just a meaningful correct call in order for you to be successful. Is that the steelers problem? And how do you rise above that line? Who wants to go first? Brian. I don't know how you rise above that line, you know. because. Unless you. Just become more of a cohesive unit and just play mistake, free football and go for the throat like we talk about four. You're never going to, so it's. It's a philosophy it is. It, you know it happens in preseason and happens every day under the bubble when you're not on the field, but. It just happens when you are committed to sometimes altering your philosophy. Realizing that this isn't working and being tired of escaping by the skin of your teeth. Jeff I've got a specific question for you from another Jeff Jeffrey benefit. At says and this is a really good point when it comes to specifically two thousand seventeen, which might have been the year. You know when you lose. Know Ryan Shazier late in the season. You weren't on that line anymore. We're the steelers above that line. And the she's ear injuries. What caught them brought them back down to where they needed things to go their way in order to win the Games. Yeah I think. He was that dynamic defender that they didn't have them when you lose bad. EIB and you get. Sean spends off the couch literally and you plug him into play other than over like someone like Ford. It wasn't. I thought it was a poor coaching decision. and you can't replace that, you know. Ryan Shazier was talent in the skill set that he had is near impossible to duplicate. That you know, and so when you lose dad, there's a gaping hole. It's not a situation where you're like. Oh Mike. Helton God banged up. He's envy missing a few games. Mike. Helton's good, and he plays his role very well in the steelers defense, but he is in no way shape or form guy where you're like. Oh my gosh, what are we? GonNa do, what are we going to do without him? That was Ryan Shazier and so yeah. I think they were the line in then. When you take out of the equation, it only hours. Yeah, so I agree. Can you agree with that bad that that might have been? The the steelers were playing above that lie where they didn't have to have everything. Go their way, and then after the ear injury it. Things like that affected the more. Two point. Yes, I definitely agree with that because there was no next man up for Ryan Shazier. That's definite, but. Jeff brought up this game earlier and it was a week before. Against in Ryan Shazier played the full game and had a good game, but they were not. They were not performing up to par against the Green Bay packers in that game. They were not performing to par. Against other teams in November, they were escaping with Chris Boswell by the skin of their teeth that thirteen and three could have easily been a completely different record because they had one. You mentioned that earlier Daves. Go field. So what I'm saying here is Shakespeare if they have Shazia, they're doing a whole lot more, but there were other issues that does not make. 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But here's another part that that that goes with this I'm okay with the with the two thousand twenty steelers playing at that razor, thin line where things could go one way or the other. If things are going their way half the time, and it's not in those certain games that that happens because it's not going to be every game are gonNA. Be Some teams that hopefully you can just. You can just defeat. The key is to me. A last four games of the season. That's when you need to be above that line because I don't care if your own Ford, start the season, but if you're four, know at the end and making the playoffs. That's more important because. You could. How many times have we seen the best team in the NFL for the first half of the season? Not even be someone that people pick the win a game in the playoffs. It's not even about playing that way the whole time it's about getting to that level at the right time because playing it. That line doesn't matter as much during the regular season. You want to be above that line on at the playoffs. Dave can I say that I agree completely with you? If this was any other year than two thousand twenty, and that either and the reason I'm going to say that the first quarter of the season in two thousand and twenty is going to be paramount to at least be three and one and maybe four. No, and the reason you need that this year. More than ever is because parody might be out the window this year. The reason I'm saying that I think you're going to see it top heavy. In with the top eight teams in the League? Very top heavy, actually with the top ten twelve teams, and then a lot at the bottom, and not a lot of eight and eighteen. Not a lot of seven nine teams think there's going to be less of those teams just playing five hundred ball because I think if you're good this season, you're going to have really good. Records of the teams are going to beat the teams that they should this year because you do not have a preseason. preseason you do not have a training camp. You didn't have many camps, so the bad teams are going to be bad because they don't have the preparation to get better, the good teams coming in with a better roster or going to be, it's going to be top heavy because they're going to be better and there's going to be less parody. I think you're right. Brian it's going to be one of those years. Where either figure it out. One of those teams that figure it out or you don't based on the limited stuff, Jeff. We've just throwing a bunch of stuff out there. There's a lot for you to to break to break up there. I agree! And how Seattle going to do? There's this giant bug in his room I was like man. I gotTA kill that we'll try to think about. Babbit. Changes under, but I mean I definitely. This is going to be fluky going to be different than any other year ever before and you look at this dealer schedule like you said especially, you gotta start out fast. Can you imagine like the Bengals? Joe Borough has no repetitions with anyone physical like it none. He's going to be your day one starter and good luck I'll take Ben. Rothlisberger coming off elbow surgery for five hundred. Please Alex. Situations where I mean it's. It's a give it this year. Throw up, there's all no-holds-barred. That's what they should call this year, NFL twenty twenty. No holds barred. Let's get after it and I'm not talking about the classic hulk, Hogan. Movie. I'm talking about is. It's going to be fluky. It's going to be crazy things from engineering. What's at one hour of the holds bar? Zeus against the. The great tiny lister! Well, actually we can tie that back to steelers history because tiny lister played deebo, which James Harrison was named after. And there's your seven degrees. The Pittsburgh steelers so. This is going to be a strange year, and I think Brian has a good point that line might not exist in two thousand twenty has in the past, so that be good for the steelers meaning that that that thin line between victory and defeat I. But we just really don't know. I. I I think a big possibility that the teams that that already have the continuity. Don't have a lot of stuff to work through just talking about not having a new quarterback. They they have an advantage, but it's still up to that coaching staff. To to get going I was completely wrong last year, even though they went on the road I thought the advantage with for the steelers when they played on Thursday night because they had a more experienced coaching staff to get their team ready well, that didn't happen. They went into Cleveland and the rest. Is History with all with all of that? So maybe if they were home, it would have been different, but they also young young quarterback other things that come into play there. Sometimes you think. Oh, the steelers have an advantage because. Yeah then sometimes they don't necessarily either just wanted to throw out there. That Dave Shipley through five dollars into the tip jar with a blank comments, and he says his question is a couple above. There we go. We said we must be confident and somebody in somebody after the season will be, or or was it that the grievance made? Ticked off. We'll say it that way. Just keep a little bit more. G. Rated the head office ordered by bunt too much money. He saw throughout body pre. Since. have got his thoughts on Iraq because he has because he's just coming right now. Jeff, what? What's your thoughts on the whole bunch appreciation? there's no way to. We're going to try to negotiate a long term deal, not know the ramifications of the cap and twenty twenty one. Though, it's one of those situations where yeah you can be mad. He asked for two million dollars more whatever he's. He's entitled to tens idol doing what he's doing in the collective bargaining agreement now with that said. If the steelers units Cam Hayward probably not gonNA. Get deal, either, because if the finances between these the NFL NFL PA. Don't go well in the salary. Cap Drops seventy million dollars next year. They're not gonNA to afford a lot of players, and so they're going to have to definitely wheel and deal and make some things happen. That's probably the driving force. It's also why they haven't signed any of the rookies yet I mean. There's there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes here that a Lotta. Fans are just completely ignoring, but it's worth looking at you. I! Don't think it. depre- where the right price I think they would bring him back, but as of right now. You don't know how productive he's going to be was last year a flash in the PAN or what is the salary Cap GonNa? Look like in twenty twenty one. Those those I wouldn't sign a long term. Not Now, Brian let me mention but debris real quick first of all. If you don't ask you, don't get, but I have no problem with bud saying. Hey, wait a second. I was a defensive end in the edge, rushers, and I think the role is a little bit crazy. Screen it. No. You looked kind of Pale Lance Williams. That's his line that he says all the time. So WE'RE GONNA ask. You'RE NOT GONNA get. Here's the thing we were talking about this last night. Jeff when we were talking about. On. April twenty third about the draft. We weren't talking about chase young from Ohio state as a defensive end or linebacker. We're talking about him as an edge rusher. So they need to really change the designation for these franchise tags to just make them edge rushers and not have a defensive and making. Two billion dollars more than an outside linebacker I really think that should be grouped together different because there's really it's kind of hard for him to get that two million dollars extra when he's, but he is doing the same exact thing as a defensive end just because of the category that he's there under that needs to be changed. What are your thoughts on that? The players had every opportunity to have that bargain the collective bargaining agreement they didn't do. It was by answer to that was. The players had their chances March and they they signed a collective bargaining agreement that states that the franchise tag is labeled as a linebacker, and as a defensive end, and so if I'm if I'm you know bud debris I'm going to my team rep saying we need to get this change because affect my my paycheck. They if they did that, that's on him. Like Jeffrey brought up in the live chat, but free is tied to the linebacker which makes him the same as they're saying. More like Devin Bush. And he is a four three defensive end. On honestly I don't. I. Don't know that the owners would have balked at redoing that at all. I don't know that they're really what have not. They could have done easily, so maybe they'll both agree on after the fact because it's just better for everyone I don't know Jeff Yep. We WanNA. Thank you so much for coming on and joining us. It was great to to get our. Our good buddy back here to talk some steelers, football and and. What's right. Country Leave lists enough. I'm waiting for. It's a new Jeff. You know what I mean so what he ended. I'm waiting for tobacco stream across the screen and come out. I was I was waiting for well then. I'll carry are. America. So, we WANNA make sure that you all know to check into colors. Don't run sorry. Artie. Luckily! We don't have any time for any to. Yeah make sure that your check you to buy still curtain dot com. One Stop Shop Probably Pittsburgh steelers. 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Steelers Preview: Will TE Zach Gentry even make an impact on the Steelers in 2019?

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Steelers Preview: Will TE Zach Gentry even make an impact on the Steelers in 2019?

"Pittsburgh Steelers fans what's going on this, Jeff Harbin editor of behind the curtain dot com with another episode of the Steelers preview. That's right, we're back. We're better than ever OT as week to just wrapped up. And we're gonna talk about that Zach, gentry is the Steelers preview focus player of the week in terms of the two thousand nineteen NFL draft class. But before we get to that, let's go who over who is with me. It's all three of us. The dynamic duo, Brian Anthony Davis. How are you doing this evening? You know what Jeff, we should start calling yourself tremendous trio, because I don't wanna leave you out of this whole thing. But I'm doing phenomenal. I'm okay with being left out. That's. Guilt by association bra days. Go field what's going on? I'm exhausted. Man. I need a vacation for my vacation. I just got back in town. And I'm like I need some rest after my time of supposed rest. Oh. All right. Before we get started with the actual, you know, the news and OT, as and all that stuff. Dave is going to be talking about the winner of the juju. Smith Schuster jersey that was a contest that wrapped up last night Wednesday at ten pm. Dave, go ahead. Take it away. All right. Are winning tweet? The one with the most lakes was a video. It was really simple. It did not take much to witness jersey. Someone made a video taking a drink of water out of a Steelers Cup. And then held it up to show that said, 'Antonio Brown's tears. So that was our winning video that was juju celebration. It was called shade and it was by Jake mellow. So Jake, I will be getting hold of you and making sure we get you that juju. Jersey. Congratulations. It's pretty cool. You know we've if you think about the giveaways you've done so far. It's, it's just really cool to be able to give stuff like that way. And big big shout out to the winner. There Jake mellows. He said, is that his Twitter handle of that's Twitter mellow. Very good. So there you have it. That's another giveaway in the books. We have another one planned. It's going to it's going to be involving writing though. It's going to be a part of the behind the curtain dot com fan post action. If you're if you're a member of the, the steel curtain dot com, and that means you have it username and things of that nature. A lot of people don't even know you can actually write articles for the site. It just doesn't show up on the main page, those are for the writers that I actually employ. And so you can do fan post and a lot of times I can promote the fan post to the front page and get you exposure. We're gonna be doing a writing contest. That'll be coming up in the dog days of summer. Or so. They'll be after OT as or done that time period between OTA's and training camps. OT kilo governor, that we'll talk about that as it comes up, but here we go organized team activities phase three continues week to his done. There's only one week left. I believe they have I'm sorry. It was one week or two weeks. Dave. Total. Is it three weeks? It's three weeks OTA's and then mandatory minicamp. Right. So the as they have one where we think there's four sessions next week, one of those Dave and Buster's session, but we're going to do what we did last week. And that's where we just go around and say, well, we were takeaways from we to if anything Brian will start with you. What did you take away from OT as week to for the Versi lers even more than I did last week? It's just team harmony. This team is going out of their way to show how much they get along with each other and not just that, but what they're really trying to stab list, is that us against the world mentality and believe you me, they're going to ride it the whole way you heard it in the comments this week. I felt like Vance McDonald alluded to it. Marquees pouncey alluded to it, and the other thing about it that kind of coincides with this is the fact that marquees pounds. He is basically saying. You look, I'm not discussing any criticism of Ben Rothlisberger. But I noticed nobody's called me I like you should, and that was that was a throwback to his, his quote, a couple months ago. That said, if you have anything bad to say about the team, you better get through me, first so marquees pounds. He has anointed himself as the enforcer of the team, and that makes him a big team leader in my eyes and you could see how they they rally around him. Yeah, I pounce. He's a he's a good enforcer to have on your side into Castro those guys. I one of my side if we're going into a brawl. Put it that way. Dave. What about you week to as rap over your thoughts on the week? That was no news is good news. Because there's, there's more bad things that can happen not as good things. When you hitters there's breaking news about Steelers OT as it's gonna be for bad reason that someone did something, and we don't want that. I know I think the last report was shot Davis might not be fully participating because of some sort of injury. But nothing that sounds major. That's all I want from OT as a minicamp is the come out injury free. Yeah, I'm gonna go a different way in, in say how crazy it is to me that of six draft Sutton Smith seems to be doing everything. I think he's doing everything except for kicking field goals. He he's doing fullback drills. He's he took running back rafts today. And he's working as a linebacker and outside linebacker. I guess the more you can do, right? To make the team is, is the best case fossil Brian. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah. I think he would operated the food truck for launch. No. I mean this guy. I mean he wants to make it man. He's hungry. And he's gonna do whatever it takes love it. Yeah. I just impressed. I mean this is a guy that everyone said, is it true team player? He's willing to do whatever it takes. And that's truly on display right now. Another thing that I took away was. This is news happened. I think it was Wednesday morning was only published this, this dealers pushed Chris boswell's, a signing bonus back to after the preseason essentially saying, we're not going to give you that money until we see that you've gotten out of this funk, and if he would have said, look, no, I want my. Money. They were going to release him straight out. This is all per Jerry Dueck, which in my opinion, very reliable source in the Pittsburgh post gazette, Dave, when you heard that news, will your thoughts on that. I thought that came out in March, whenever he didn't get the bonus. So I think that was news. I was I was thinking that already had at cosc- was do the bonus in March and he didn't get it. But I didn't know if that was ever confirmed. Exactly how that played out that might have been what what it was. But I seem to remember that he wasn't. He didn't get the bonus. That was news it, but there wasn't a. A confirmed story until just now. It wasn't. There was no time line of when he was going to get it now. They said it for the end of the preseason. Yes. So now if they were to essentially cut him they would save themselves. Two million dollars. I believe was the number. I saw not sure don't take that as gospel, but it would be less of a hit if they decide to cut him. Brian, what are your thoughts on that? End does his or are we reading between the lines year? We just let go, you know, it's a smart move, because they own four point six before that bonus so they won't be hit with four point six million, if they have to cut them. This is a guy that saying all the right things I saw an interview with him, where yet, he looked very solemn somber, but he was saying, hey, look, I'm not worried about last year. I'm not thinking about last year. I'm just worried about my next kick. So he's going with that he's a he said, look, I'm not changing anything but you know with a kicker and Jeff. A golfer and, you know, just the difference between an inch in your stance on pots on everything. So the same same way with a kicker. It's just I would think that he has been doing everything he can in the last six months to shore up his stance, the shore up his kicking motion and to be injury free. That was another thing. They asked him about the injuries. He's like, look. I'm not blaming. I'm not talking about any injuries whatsoever. Not blaming it on that. I'm just here to get back to work. So as far as covering themselves with that signing bonus. That's, that's a smart move, because if you look at Matthew, right? He has some ability out of central Florida. So he's a guy that could come in and compete in. He just blows the doors off of the, the brief season. They've decision to make. Is to me. You can tell a lot about an interview when you have you can tell a lot about the, the way that they answer questions. For instance, listen to Vance McDonald when they interview him he's upbeat. He's very well-spoken. I saw Chris Boswell in two thousand seventeen and he was jovial with the media. He was laughing joking. Things went south really quick two thousand eighteen and then this year boy, he just seems kind of downtrodden to me, it just seems like he's just kind of I, I don't know. It seems like he searching he searching for an answer. And if we're gonna compared to golf, there are times in every golfers life where they're seriously searching for their swing? But if I'm Matthew, right? I guess as his name the kid, the undrafted kid from central Florida. He's playing with house money right now. He's, he's up against the guy that is Bentley fragile coming off a worse his worst season. And maybe one of the worst seasons in it as a kicker in Steelers history in at least the last twenty years in my goodness, always had to go to go out and do his show. He can kick the ball into the end zone on kickoffs and be pretty reliable from forty five yards in and he very well might have a job because hat Chris Boswell could even make point after's this year. So I think we went over this last week. Brian Davies still believe that. Chris Boswell is not on the team into dozen. Nineteen is changing for you. I don't think it's a guarantee I think that if he doesn't get the job done that, that they will let them go. I'm Brian thinks that they're just going to do what they do because they paid him. He's going to be the kicker. I don't know. I don't know that they will. I'm hoping that he is. I really am. I also found it interesting that, that rights agent said that he specifically picked the Steelers to sign with, because they felt that that was a good opportunity for to get job. So we'll see what happens. I'm looking forward to see I wanna see someone take the job. Not somebody lose it. That's what I wanna see. Okay. Brian is Boswell teen here. You know what Dave's? Exactly. Right. I said that, and that seemed to be the mentality. But after this news and. You're correct. Jeff as well. I mean he does look downtrodden. I mentioned that he was somber in the interview. And when you compare that Vance McDonald. He's, he's going to win the job outright. And he's gonna prove that he can do it. And I'm just afraid that something else you said about just if it's a mental issue in, if he is downtrodden you know, that's a hard thing to overcome. So he's got a big summer ahead of them. And is he going to be on the team if I said, right now, I'm still going to say, yes? I think he's gonna win the job, but I am less optimistic about it than I was last week. And Sean suisun was seen at ta practice today, who's helping talking with Chris Basel. Not sure he was working with him. Like he did last year. If you do recall, the last year when Sweden did come in and work with them. And it was a little bit of an improvement in boswell's game. I'm not gonna say drastic, I'm not saying he's the kicker whisper anything like that. But it was a slight improvement. Now, the other news is that Justin lane. The third round draft take the. Final of draft pick of the nine drafted players signed his contract is rookie for your deal today. They're all locked up finally done. But there's one more player that is not under contract, but it's still showing up and I wanna get your thoughts on this guy. It's Mike helton's. Mike them was given a tender. He's pulling one hundred Villanueva rewind back to last year. This time Vilna wave as starting left tackle. Or maybe it was two years ago. I apologize figure my years mixed up. He was giving his tender he was grossly underpaid for a starting left tackle, the NFL yet, he still showed up. He didn't miss. He was there working, he didn't miss a workout, and would they do the first day when they reported training camp. Bam, you got his new deal. Guys, my question for you is does Mike. He'll get a new deal or the Steelers going to really try to play their hand wisely and make him basically make him play under the tender that they've offered him. Sorry, dave. I, I might have. Chores, I was with Villanueva, that he's going to be given a contract if he is. I think it smart planet out saying, I'm not gonna sign it so we can keep negotiating but I'm gonna keep coming. They're both sides are doing the right thing. But it seemed like at the end of last year the Steelers weren't overly sold on Hilton when I thought he was still one of the one of their best defensive back. So there might be something there on their end that they might not want to dish out what the slot corners are now going for. I mean, they're starting to really get some decent size salaries at that position. So. I'm gonna say maybe yes to play this out with just the tender and then he'd be a free agent next year. And Brian would he think Mike Helton might be motel six at this point? This is very dangerous right now, I would caution against this. I would probably sign that tender to get back in, because there are some there are some players that they're bringing in. Undrafted free agents just brought one in from the af name Cameron Kelly who had three picks in one game. He also started the season as receiver has good hands. He six two he played very well in the af. They're bringing this guy in and don't forget, Joe Hayden's there, Stephen Nelson's, there, you have Justin lane as a rookie. They're still guys named Cameron Sutton and Anna Brian Allen, who might be might be moved to safety. But they there's a lot of guys pushing for that, that job. And that, that stable of defensive backs is a lot better than it has been. I mean, this is a team that had no problem saying see Cody sensible who was the star at the end of last season. This is how much they've improved. I think guys like Cameron Kelly could really make life interesting for. For a guy like Hilton. So I think he's, he's on dangerous ground here again prince's our live chat right now read over and says that the Steelers don't have any money for a contract right now. They restructure if there's one thing I've learned, since really paying close attention to this type of stuff is that the Steelers can manipulate money with the best of it would take one restructure Omar Khan is in absolute genius. He's a wizard with this type of stuff. I know that next year even though Antonio Brown's money comes off the books they've a lot of free agents. I have no doubt in my mind that they will be able to sign the people that they wanna sign give them contracts that are all the right numbers, yet are still team friendly. If you will get the contracts into guys like Dante Moncrieff and Mark, Barron. It's two three year deals. But in reality, Dante Moncrieff deal is basically a one year contract if they want if they wanna cut him after a year they can. And they really don't have much dead money. They know what? They're doing in that regard. So if they wanna sign my Hilton, it would take just a few moves wouldn't be breaking stuff, and all of a sudden boom, they have the money to give him Brian. What do you think Jeff just one mention about the genius genius of Omar Khan? I think this guy is one of the unheralded heroes of the Steelers. I love this guy so much that I'm trying to get him to come to my house and work with, with my wife, maybe do our taxes next year because I mean, he could probably each earth you things about saving money and moving stuff around. So I love. Oh, Mark on. Yeah. Absolutely. There's a reason why he was. At one point. He was interviewed for some higher ranking jobs in other words, Asians, and he decided to stay with the Steelers still. Okay. There's really news. Good news days. There was some news, but not a huge, let's get into the staticky Dave for tonight. Okay. I'm going to do kind of like last week were less is more. We're going to do. We're going to over under again. But we're going to do a couple because I really wanted to dive into where the numbers came from. So it was interesting because this was one that Jeff brought up and a different show before last week show might have been burning question that we are not this past week before where you were talking about the number of, of underhanded free agents that of making the team. So here's what I'm going to give you guys I thought I was going to give you one number. And then after I did my research I changed my number. So you guys got it got here. What is this, undrafted rookie free agents, but I'm gonna have to define that term, it's going to be an over under of point five or the Steelers going to keep any. And here's why specifically rookie free agents meeting coming out of college. The steelers. Do keep undrafted free agents. But it's usually after a year or so on the practice squad. I was really, really surprised. Now last year, technically the Steelers kept to they kept Matthew Thomas, and they kept Ola identity a Denna. Hey, dennehy. I'll mess it up. I'll pull William to totally Butch Ola. Okay. We'll just go Ola technically he made the initial fifty three man roster only for a day in order to go on. I r where they then brought him back. So technically, he counts because he made the initial fifty three man. So that was to they had last year two thousand seventeen it was none. Yes, they had Mike Hilton. But he was not coming off coming right out of college where he was where he would have been quote unquote, a rookie spent a year bouncing around finish the year on the Steelers practice squad the year before they had none, even though it was BJ Finney. He had spent a year. On the practice squad in two thousand fifteen they had one it was Tyler Murphy. He made the fifty three man roster. But he didn't stick the whole year. The Steelers have not had. Somebody stick on stick on the roster. That was a an undrafted rookie that came right on the roster that stuck the whole season since two thousand twelve and that was Robert golden, what about a BJ Finney. He was undrafted, but he spent a year on the practice squad for what about? Before that. But Ramon foster spend a year on the practice. Didn't go. I went back to. Well, that's because I went, but no, I'm pretty sure certain that the big Ragu was straight on the fifty three thought too. But, but just I was telling you just for this exercise. I stopped at two thousand twelve see even in two thousand thirteen Terrance Garvan made the team. But technically he didn't make the initial fifty three man roster. He was cut put on the practice squad for a day or whatever until they put Matt Spaeth on I so he could come back, and then he was signed to the fifty three so they've had some scenarios like that where guys have been around, but they were either. I like he didn't last year. They were smart. You remember who was cut and then resigned. So they could put a dentist. Hey, on or sorry, a mess. It up Ola on the fifty three. They wanna remember that was. Someone like to forget Landry. He was. So who do they cut and then bring back they were smart because they did it with vested veteran? So that way he couldn't be claimed off waivers. Steven Johnson that wasn't last year. That was your before. For it was. That. Oh, good Lord. Yeah. So he was remember he was cut, and they kept all on the fifty three and then moved him to the I. Are they signed birthday back the fact that they did this with Garvan back in two thousand thirteen they were pretty lucky that he cleared waivers? But he was a guy that remember he was a tr- tryout guy. He wasn't even a he wasn't even signed before rookie minicamp. So the most that they, they did they had three and two thousand twelve one in two thousand fifteen and two in two thousand eighteen so they had more years of none than any, so for two thousand nineteen once again, I buried you with the numbers, do you think the Steelers are going to keep any undrafted free agents, right? Off the bat on the fifty three man roster. Hi, I'm every woman, and I'm hosting curbs new podcast. Nice, try it stories about how people have tried to design a better world. And what happens when those designs don't go according to plan season. One is called utopian. 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I agree with those two safeties one of them should make it because of the depth of the defensive line ago like Chris Nelson from Texas could definitely make this team over a guy like the shade tree Daniel mccutchen, even though he signed a two thousand twenty say the shade tree. Not. Oh, okay. Brothers. It's. You know what I, I recognize that I, I need to go back in my article that I just wrote because I might. Check out in fact, editor it's really running tomorrow. Jeff do your job. Check that out for I. I will. So master, right. We just talked about him. He's got got an opportunity. Here's another guy that it's, it's probably less likely. But I loved Dr skipper from the university of Toledo, he would have to beat up beat out his old rocket teammate Ola Denny. I believe it's then he Dave. Denny. But skippers monster and he has ability to find the quarterback. But speaking of quarterbacks I am not ruling out that the Devlin Hodges is just a camp body. I really think that this guy, the all time leader, FCS passing in just a fantastic player in FCS could come in and get that, number three job from guy like. Josh dobbs. I I really love what I see from Hodges just from his career in college, and what he can do. So the answer a long winded over. Okay. I wanna say this. A good one. I do believe that the Steelers would not cut Joshua Dobbs much like the land Landry Jones. I think that would have to be a trade situation before they were going to move on there. I could see them using stat trying to stash another quarterback on the practice squad as a possibility, which I'm going to a quick, follow question this, and before I go to the next one, give me a number, I've already got mine, now undrafted rookie free agents. Now, this is the rookie, this isn't the af guides or anything like that undrafted rookie free agents that the Steelers currently have that you think will make the Steelers practice squad. Say that again, how many of the undrafted rookie free agents is that what we just did. No, no, fifty three. Okay. How many gimme a number of what do you think will make the practice squad over under just give me a number of what you think? I'll tell you my, I'm with five four five I will say, I think five of those guys that they signed, and after many camp or after commend campaign, the rookies that weren't drafted. I think I think five of them could make can make eleven spots on the practice squad. Jeff say six the weird thing about this fellows is the fact that last year we had a good bit signed to the practice squad in past years. You've seen a complete turnaround from from. Undrafted and brought in went through the entire camp. And the entire the entire practice was made up of nobody knew. And I think back to two thousand. From other with fits, Tucson, coming in and all those guys coming in and everybody else was gone. In fact. Guys. When you go and four in the pre season that makes you not want to keep some of those guys. So, yeah, it all depends on how they perform great job for the Steelers. Guys are not performing the preseason doesn't mean that the that's who you have to pick your practice squad guys from find from any place. I like that. So I have some stuff coming out, where people would ask me Jackie what makes up the practice squad that should be coming out. Sometime. When I finally get the Jeff, here's question. Number two, since we're doing Zach gentry tonight. Here's your over under a five. Number of touchdowns by tight ends on the Steelers in two thousand nineteen the reason I came with the number five last year. The Steelers had six because McDonald had four and James head to and your Brimble was three inches shy at a loss. Believe it or not Vance McDonald's four touchdowns. That's tied for eleventh all time in Steeler histories of touchdowns in a season by tight end. You know what the number one is you can probably guess who it is who has the most touchdowns as tight end Steeler Miller Miller. You know what the number is new? Hey it. They've never had a double digit touchdown guy as tight end. So I'm going to run back some of the numbers here in two thousand eighteen the Steelers had six touchdowns by tight ends in two thousand seventeen they had five James had three MacDonald one grumble one and two thousand sixteen. They also had five James three and grumbled to two thousand fifteen they only had three two thousand fourteen. They had five thousand thirteen they only had one touchdown by tight end heath Miller at one touchdown and that was it. You have to all the way back to two thousand twelve until they've had more and that was when they had ten that was that he's Miller had eight. And then we was at pope had to. So that was it. So as you can see the Steelers don't always Cortana touchdown with their tight end position. So the numbers five over under for tight ends for the Steelers in two thousand nineteen. What you, they over because I think vans McDonald's going to be more of a focal point in the offense. And especially in the red zone. I'll go with over. I think your grandma will pitch in kinda Jesse James last year. I asked I got a little bit of an uptick in vans with Donald, I'll take over. What about you Brian at the risk of being overly optimistic yell and some talking to you? The what what I'm saying here is Alex, quote, Lance on this one, fifteen touchdowns. You've gotta make up fifteen touchdowns. And I agree with Jeff. You've just gotta make Vance a huge focal point. And that's exactly what they're going to do. I would think he would have a majority of them. I can see him. Not really getting double digits, but possibly getting to seven or eight. Okay. So then I'm gonna buck the trend I'm gonna say under. I think five is the right number of personally. I think finally be a push. That's not I'm no. I wasn't giving us a push option. So, so I'll just go flat up under. Then you can't go five four. That's why I'm saying. That's why I'm going under. I said, if I if I had the hook if it was five and a half, then I feel even much better about my under because I think, I think it pushes realistic here. That's just kind of what they've done with the titans of their system, and honestly beyond Vance McDonald. I don't I think too tight end is is really lacking. It's going to be all about McDonald. I think if if they go over, it's because MacDonald has has them. That's, that's what I got. So that's our stats for this week. All right. Brian you wanted to do a little new segment. You said thirty seconds. I literally Minnesota timer for thirty seconds and you're ever, you'll fun fact. All right. Here's the fun fact of the week, two major friends and family marquees pound sees real first name is Leshan. Thank you, shouldn't tip your waiters and waitresses. I'll be here next week. Nine ten seconds. He's still twenty seconds. You get. So what is Sean, his name is Shawn? Marquees pouncey. I do not look at this guy in and doesn't scream Leshan to me. But brother, I believe his name is actually Michael, if I'm not mistaken. That's weird. Will there you go? There's your fun fact. Hate on after if you're, if you're looking for a conversation starter, just say, marquees is actually Sean, and they actually put put your hands on your chan- like that. And just like have a smoking jacket and, and just look really smart. All right. Well, after that fun fact. I think it's a good transition into our preview player of the week. And that is none other than fifth round draft pick. Zach gentry? I believe his first name is actually Zach and not Leshan. So I can't I can't say one hundred percent accuracy, so or a straight face. Ethan on he was a Michigan product. He was drafted as a quarterback. He followed a lot of people are connecting dots with heath Miller. 'cause he's Miller was actually brought in as a quarterback in Virginia. And then transitioned into a tight end. Everyone has said he was a number one, I draft pick this guy's a fifth round draft pick. You've not heard much about him at all. Vance McDonald had a couple of quotes on about him yesterday, which I put it in our as the headline of my OTA recap. He just basically said that right now. He's still learning the offense. He looks like most. Rookies do. Sometimes like that deer in the headlights, I block, I haven't heard much of anything about this guy at all my question in the headline of this episode guys is will Zac, gentry even make an impact in two thousand nineteen. That's what I wanna know. So let's with Brian will this guy even make an impact? Will we even be talking about, I'm not that he's not gonna make the team? Will we even be talking about that gentry come? September. I think this is going to mostly a redshirt season for Zach gentry, but really, you know, I'm thinking that this guy is going to surprise you with one touch down. Maybe maybe lucky to have a hundred yards entire season, and then but this is all going to be the build up to be ready for year. Number two, he's gonna play sparingly remember young guys, it takes a long time to get that get that rhythm with Ben Rothlisberger in. You have to earn his trust any of a lot to do so. Lehai said, I think this is going to be a learning year for them. I think he makes the fifty three you can't stash the sky on the practice squad. But it's gonna take a lot for him to get in there. Eating what are your thoughts on? Zach gentry? As of right now, the third T spots, basically handed to them, unless the Steelers decide to do something else to make a trade. He's really what, what there is. It's. It's interesting these a fifth round pick 'cause I don't know. I don't really have the numbers to back this up put it feels like the Steelers liked to take fliers on guys in the fifth round that possibly remind them of somebody else. That's exactly what the did with Brian Allen. He was fifth round pick corner out of Utah. Well, he's tall. He's athletic. He's almost like a he's almost like a Richard Sherman. Okay. Let's see if you can develop into that. Well, we haven't we haven't seen that, but he's still sticking with the team. You know, some people see the size and everything of gentry all when he was a quarterback when even came to Michigan. It's, it's I feel it's a flyer. I feel it's a it's a it's a pure flyer. And we'll see if that, if they hit on one of these, so I don't know enough about. He had four college touchdowns to junior to senior. He did not have very many yards receiver in college. But get him on a pro team, get him with the right body type. I mean how many titans do we have in the NFL that were basketball players in college? You know didn't even play football. So it's it's a project. So I think I think Brian's, right? He's going to make the fifty three but it's more of like a redshirt cheese. Yes, it is the question that was posed both in the headline than what I said, was, I don't think this guy is gonna make an impact into those nineteen if they're ever gonna run the three tight end set. He's probably not even going to be on the field build row in extra tackle out there before they put Zach gentry on the field with Vance Madonna in Xavier grumble unless there's an injury, I can see him being a game day inactive every single week. I actually wouldn't be shocked if he gets cut, I don't know. I, I just feel like he's gonna have to show something that isn't out on the market right now. That's possibly vailable or maybe one of these undrafted free agents or I don't know. It would be really interesting. Bucky Hodges was still on the team because he was a guy that a lot of people liked and looked. Okay. And then they just they caught him. So I don't I don't know what happened there. But I'm gonna say that he does not make an impact a guys you have any stats or anything a day. Have you talked to touchdowns VP else you wanted to go over with, with gentry? I know I gotta be professional. I got myself. Yeah. He had. Well we came in as a freshman a quarterback, he didn't even play tight end until he was a junior and in nine games, yet, he had what seventeen catches for three hundred and three yards. And as a senior in, in twelve games he had thirty two catches for five hundred and fourteen yards two touchdowns each year. So I mean not a bad average. He averaged over sixteen yards. In his career, but for for yards per catch, but it's not like he was out there said the world on fire, but if he was a six eight guy, setting the world on fire. He would be drafted in the fifth round, right? Brian, while your thoughts on gentry giving anything special put the cherry on top of the fact Sunday that Dave served up to us just a little bit ago. So he mentioned the Richard Sherman thing. And when I was thinking about Richard Sherman and Brian Allen. They were both came in as they were college wide receivers at one point then they switched to cornerback and they were big guys those very good comparison. And then he went on to say, you know, okay a tight end. That was a quarterback in college who else was a quarterback in college. Heath Miller was a quarterback when he first arrived, and then became a tight end. So very interesting, right, there, just those comparisons, one more thing about about Zach, gentry, just, just dimension. This has nothing to do with his play, but it's very interesting about the comparison to heath Miller, and Ben Rothlisberger had asked him to go ahead and switch his number from eighty three to eighty one. So that's a as in tribute to Miller to, like, leave that number alone, which I thought was something that I just found out when I was looking up Zack's real first name, which I never got to, because I thought that that was even more interest. But one more thing that to jump on. What Dave said? Yeah. The, the fifth round pick the fifth round pick seems to be a project. And when they brought Jesse James in as tight end he was a big guy, bringing in, in the word that they used all the time was project back in two thousand fifteen when they were talking about the Jesse James selection, that he's raw, he's got a lot to that. He's going to have to prove here. So that seems to be the same as gentry as he gonna make an impact to answer your question. No, not this year. But I still think he makes the team, Jeff Niagara deal unless there's something crazy. I, I guess making team this, maybe thankless. You're talking about all the players Steelers have had that were former quarterbacks that then went to different positions. At some point or another. You think about guys like Hines ward, Antwan Randle, El you mentioned heath. Who did it desk? That's the question. What do you think? Dave who did a best? Who transitioned away from quarterback the best Kordell Stewart should've stayed away from quarterback. Talking about how exciting he was when he was slashed. Yes. To get out to get home and watch Steeler games. And what was he going to do next turned to cramp when he was just a quarterback? But I mean I think about him. Okay. So let's, let's talk about this. I quick sidebar who did who, who did it best, a former or I wanna put slash in there somehow but I can't because it's not gonna fit the talking point here. So who did a best quarterback that transition to another position? And we'll throw heat there because he was recruited as a quarterback. 'cause everyone's going to say if I don't throw heat in there, I still say Heinz. Really? I mean, the guy started five games in his last season at Georgia, and he actually started a couple of running back as well. So I mean Heinz has a borderline hall of fame career. So I would say yes to Hines and to answer the question on Cordell real quick. I after I hear Dave's answering your answer to this. I have a question about Cordell that I'd like out there. So go ahead. Dave. Dave who did a best is the thing is rain. Well still threw the ball. Either I'm going with Randall well, because Randall well did not go to wide receiver until he went to the NFL. That's a good point. That's why I'm going to pick him because surely quarterback in college, and then changed wide receiver a much. He was the best player. I'm just saying. It was the best transition. That's a really good point OB. I'm gonna go with. I've go three into well. And I didn't even think about the fact that he transition to wide receiver in NFL. But the fact that he's still through the football. I can't remember a time where Hines ward threw the ball in the NFL. Can you guys? I believe he did. That's something that statman needs to check. But I if I'm I believe he has if it was only once or twice it was it wasn't with the frequency of, of rain. Well, because he actually will forty. That's something someone in the live chat aerial said he got us a ring the bomb the Hines ward the best pass that game, and he was a quarterback or let's go to Kordell Stewart. Now Brian, what's your quarterback? Your question, by the way nineteen ninety-five is one of my favorite all time Steeler seasons. It did not end with the ring, and we know that and we can get into all of that. And I remember remember, I did have a best of the rest column at the beginning of the off season who was the best team. They did not make it all the way I actually thought they would have an opportunity to win the whole thing, favourite year and Cordell was very big part. Of that. So my question to you fellas is this is a question that will never be answered. But what is your hunch, if Kordell Stewart remained wide receiver would have even an all pro in a borderline hall of Famer in this league? Now. No, they said, but he would have had pro bowls. Twos name all pros. All part of me is completely different. All pro is the best of the best in the national football. When people say, I'm a pro bowler, like, for instance, juju Smith, Schuster, and TJ wad, both say, Gaza Pro Bowl last year you were an alternate someone didn't go. So you went, that's technically not the same in my opinion. All pro. That's the that's not fan voting. That's that's legit. I do think that he would have had some pro bowls under his belt. I'm not sure if I'm gonna go as far as saying, hall of fame and or. All pro. What about you, Dave? I think he'd had a better career receiver. I don't I, I don't even know that I'd go Pro Bowl but. He just he would have been electric would. I think yeah he's so good. Yeah amazing. Yeah. He made everybody every time he touched the football he something was going to happen. He was throwing it. He was running it. I mean catching the ball what a weapons kind of makes you wonder why the heck they tried to just put him into the quarterback spot. I knows what he wanted, but. Damn you coward. What the hell were you thinking? Okay, guys, I don't know Hines words passing stats. Don't know if this, I couldn't get any peer passing stats, but I found it on October twenty sixth of nineteen ninety eight against the Kansas City Chiefs. While the score was ten to six Hines Ward's completed passed a Kordell Stewart for seventeen yards. That's all I've been able to find so far. For a guy that was a quarterback in college. I always expected them to have Heinz potentially throw the ball more, and they just never did it. And then Randall came in. He was slinging the rock around in it had no problems with him throwing the ball. I think back to a great throw that never gets talked about was the throw back to Ben Rothlisberger against Cinncinnati-based two thousand and five and then Ben unleashes a bond down to Brian Drake. Wilson Ray good. He jumped in front of Hines were to catch the ball. So, yeah, I don't know. I just a quick little sidebar there. So there you have it Davor you. Okay. Are you still poring over stats there? What I'm trying to find any play. But yes, he had an incomplete pass to Plaxico Burs in two thousand one. He got sacked the same year. I guess he was back to throw in God, tackle that was to attempted pass plays in two thousand one that's so I can't get. Much for. They did. They did try. They did try. Need to go out to Mr. Scofield because we've ruined Dave for the rest of the week. This is all he's going to do. Was going to be no family dinners at the Scofield house. There's gonna be no nothing because he's gotta look at Hines ward. He might even be calling Hines ward. He might go to Georgia to Hines words house, to ask him now in a live Chad Jesse says even Chris Boswell antennae Brown both thrown touchdown passes, which is true. And here's the here's one for you there, guys. Who did Antonio Brown complete his touchdown pass to? I know this. This, this is the Monday night football game against the Houston Texans, where they scored like what was it twenty four points in two minutes, or it wasn't that much? But it was a high point total in a very short amount of time. Oh, that was in Tony Martavis Bryant. I think that's not what I'm thinking a Thursday night against the Texans Monday night. Yeah. Okay. Maybe you're right. I'm gonna Christmas day game against the Texans wasn't JJ watt actually played in this game. Okay. Lance, Lance more two thousand thirteen. Yeah. Lance more time with his pink fourteen. Sorry. Okay. We'll still the same. All right. So guys, here's the thing we wanted to keep this episode a little bit shorter than normal. So we're going to go straight into our either or saving. Is there anything else for the good of the order of the wanna talk about before we get into the fun stuff? Aiman bueller. Well, I thought fun fact was really fun. Okay. Leshan. I'm not a lot of talk about snoop Dogg this week. Michael. Okay. Put it in the live chat. And after I looked it up to. I guess you before on the air Brian, let's talk about snoop. Dogg's thoughts. I just said that was news. But is it really? And he I love his music, especially back in the nineties, but does his opinion matter more than the three of ours right here? No. It's just a chance for me to go ahead and pimp out one of my columns about celebrity Steeler fans. So that's coming to a coming to the site near you. That's all I wanted to do. So I just wanted to mention Calvin bra Calvin Broadus junior on the show. All right. So dave. Do you have an either or I tonight, a reskilling out on that? I offered to skip out. But I mean I have one if you wouldn't go we want. Oh, this is really simple. In reference to my activities early this week. If you're going on a family vacation. Are you going, and you have your choice just between the two not a combination or you doing amusement park or waterpark? Hi. This is Peter Kosta. I'm the host of Recode media. He's an awesome podcast that I make about media want to tell you about a specific episode. I think you will listening to Jimi Petar president ESPN, one of the most powerful programming networks on TV also one that's under a lot of stress. He's down the about fifteen months we talked about what he's doing to reshape that thing. And, or keep it competitive all either sports networks and the internet in general, it's a good conversation. You can listen to it for free. Jimmy Petar is on the Recode media podcast with me, Peter Kafka on apple podcasts four wherever you are listening to this message right now. Oh. They're both glorious very similar because. Yeah, I feel like a waterpark is also using it park. You were down in Virginia. Right. You were down the Williamsburg. Water country USA, as well as Busch gardens. And I didn't either neither, yeah. Your kids, will you never been to Busch gardens? No, it's great. That's a great place. I love that place. I've never been ever been for rating. The Halloween the halloween's good. If you like in scared. It's good which I don't. But I went anyways. Let's I'm gonna go with am. I taking my kids. Oh, gosh, I'm taking my kids. That's a nightmare. I don't want to go to either. Let's let's I'll go waterpark, because there's a potential that I could coax all five of my whole agains to get on a raft. On the lazy river and just be quiet and just not be able to go anywhere for about ten minutes. So I'll take the lazy river and the waterpark, would you Brian? Holy their model children. I've met these people. I I'd like kids. A class. But you know what I. I'd probably see amusement park. I love a good waterpark. But a lot of parks have supplementary water parks, but one, one that I would like to mention that as a lot of fun is. Mass not it's very close James Madison university. And that's a great waterpark. I haven't been to the park, but I've been down the mass not in the resort. It's a great place. Yeah. Both dave. Even though I just spent three days a water park, I wanna go amusement park. I mean I like to wanna park stuff. But, for example, when I take my kids to Disney, we don't do the water parks, we just do the amusement parks, when we're there, because we're like we can do a waterpark other time, but even though how good time the last few days, waterpark. But overall automation park. You gotta if you get a Bush gardens again ride the ride called the, the Griffin and what it does is it takes you to the crest of the hill, and you're literally phasing straight down and it stops in a positive three whole seconds and then all of a sudden releases he goes straight down ninety degree drop hundred plus feed into it was it's nuts. Great ride super smooth. See, I have to be very careful, whether it's water park or amusement park. I gotta go to the right place, because I don't fit in most of the stuff because I'm just I'm just I'm too tall. I'm too large. It's funny even though I am. A big guy, a lot of times it has a lot to do with. Height and specifically a lot of times the length of my femur 'cause I cannot fit this way in a seat, but DisneyWorld everything there's made for people with the exception of. What's the new the one new Pandora ride? I could not do it, but that was because I have a compressed disk in my back, I couldn't take the pressure on my back, but other than that, I can do everything that Disney. That's why does amusement park but I gotta be careful places. I can't I can't do it all and water parks, I have to be very careful riding with my children on water rides. Because a lot of stuff when you have the added weight you can go much faster and we have we flipped many times because of. Dan, makes it flip over. So. You probably look like Clark was Clark Griswold going down the hill and his saucer on vacation Christmas. Yeah, I, I remember one of the one of the times, I went I went snow tubing with that. I used to when I. One of the clubs that I was the adviser for when I was teaching high school. We went snow tubing, and I even had some friends that came as advisors, you know, chaperones and everyone wanted to ride in the group with me because I would just make it fly and I mean I was people were just stopping. And I was buried into the wall with the end we, there was one time that helpers coming over to pull us out. And they're like there's another person in there. They're just keep pulling them out everyone with me so much faster. It's crazy that you had that either were day because my either were was shockingly similar in, I hadn't talked today about what his was literally cutting grass today, and I was thinking, I was like, I know what I'm gonna ask, or, and it's I feel like everyone falls into one of these two categories of curious where you all lie in that is if you get to choose vacations choose the mountains or choose the beach when I say the mountains that can be anything that could be camping that could be resort. That is, you know, you're basically staying away from the beach is what I'm saying, so you either beach or non beach. If you get to choose your vacation start with Brian. I'm, I'm shooting amusement park over both of them. Really? Because that's. Yeah, my wife loves the beach. And I try to do that for her. But after a while I get sandy, I'd rather be by a poll, the beach. So maybe I guess I would go mountains, and I know our next vacation is going to be Tennessee in the mountains to go to like, dollywood and, and I just want my wife when she said she wants to go to dollywood. I'm like, all right. It's a week of jokes. You're going to get them. I mean and she's like he has I know. But I mean, the, the hotel we're going to be ad is going as like a lazy. Lisi creek with a raft that you could just hang out in and so lazy create that is very mountainous. Yes. I mean, I guess that's the way she explained it to me. Lazy in front of anything for me. I mean I'm like, I'm in, if we're going to bake, I've a lazy Susan. So I mean so. Creek. Do my do our show from the lacy creek. What you. Okay. How do I follow that one? Simple as simply growing up, and everything it was always more of more more of a beach thing. Like I said, I grew up the deep creek lake area in western Maryland, and we actually had a cabin on the lake. So to me that was waters. We were always water, people going to the beach, a lot of fun, boogie board and all that stuff. But now that I'm getting older. It's not quite enjoyable as much, but it is something where my kids can be distracted by the ocean. So I can get a little bit of relaxation. I'm afraid if I went up into a cabin in the mountains with them that they would drive me crazy because I don't know what I would have them to do. But if but if I could go on a vacation by myself right now, I am going to a cabinet mountains in the woods in the middle of nowhere. I'm a beach guy. I've been a beach guy my whole life. My parents asked my brother and I- multiple times. We would go on vacation every of the year. And they'd say guys, do you wanna go to Disneyland or DisneyWorld or whatever places? Or do you want to go to the gym? I brother and I never hesitated beach beach beach. It never been there. I never been to DisneyWorld never been to whatever have no plans to we have five kids can't afford to go anymore. I made on the street told us how much they have three kids how much it's gonna cost them to go this summer. That's not happening. But the beach, I love the beach. We're going to the beaches summer, I wanna move to the beach. I already know where I wanna move in South Carolina. I wanna be within a walking distance of the beach. I love everything about the beach. That's where I wanna be. I love the ocean. I love the ocean will be around it. I I love it. So that's where I'm gonna go. You'll see me on a beach somewhere, maybe TSE headquarters will be moving there sooner than later, if, if I win the lottery. Can you picture one Geoffrey? Hartman at the beach with Brunza. And like Barak fan phone, I can see. Jeff is is he's he's, he's too much of a health guy fitness guy that he could like pull off the beach me. I'm like, I'm like beached whale rolling. Surf, you know, take I have to wear swim shirt, because it would take an entire bottle of, of sunblock in order to cover me, so yeah but I still love it. I do. It's just I have to go to the fat beach. My love of the beach has nothing to do with my body fat percentage or anything like that. It's just the fact that I've loved the beach period. Always have. But anyways, Brian, go ahead. Finish it up here with your either or well ironically guys I had a beach quite now. But I was thinking, hey, say, nude beach, no nude beach know your answer. So wouldn't it be fun, just like a nude beach in, like, no? But I would do the nude beach, I would have no problem with my wife would never never do it. But anyways, so I've got a new, I've got a new fascination and it actually. Actually kind of hooks into an old fascination, but with game of thrones gone, I'm completely game of thrones. Now, I'm onto my nuisance. Ation Cobra KAI on Amazon prime not Amazon prime YouTube premium. And this is this is a throwback to the karate kid movies in the nineteen eighty four classic karate kid than came credit kid to in eighty six eighty nine. Dreadful karate kid three and ninety four is even more remarkably dreadful with Hilary swank the next karate kid. But what's so cool about this is they brought back almost everybody and the lines are blurred between good and bad. Now you have Johnny Lawrence from Cobra KAI, who is more of a sympathetic figure than Daniela Russo ever was. And it's just really great to watch the chemistry between these guys, watch them. Bring back all these guys from the past. And if your fate of the cruddy kid, you would absolutely love the show. So my question to you, and it might come down to just your personality. Who do you rather be trained in the art of karate by? Would you rather be trained by one, Mr. Miaki? Or would you go Cobra KAI never die and since they join crease. Okay, good. Dave. Jeff, I think we get I think we lost Jeff. According to someone in the live chat, Jeff us go back to hosting Blue's clues. I don't know what that he came from someone. Steve someone said compliment, I'm like how. Pluess serious. It was a guy that hosted Blue's clues. Then he quit because he was balding. And he didn't want the little gifts to see him. Go bald is that real? That's where. Really, he quit because he was going bald. I don't know if you quit or they forced him out. I don't know. Just went from being funny to being said. Let's, let's go. It's been so long as it's watched their original crowded kids. But yeah, I'll how do you not say, Mr. Yagi, you know, just? Seems more more more fun more of a personal connection not more about the glory of the sense. More about him teaching his knowledge. So we'll go there. I'm gonna go with Mr. meow GI because I've never liked cheaters. I've never liked people that played dirty. I'm okay with losing. I don't like losing if someone cheats to do it. So that's for me. I'm gonna go with these strata of no nonsense, Mr.. Miyagi. Well, first of all, the help you out with this whole thing, this is the same as either or's way back when, when it was, would you rather have your kid coached by Mike, chef ski or Bobby Knight, that's basically, the along the same lines of this. And I'm just going to tell you fellas. I'm not painting any old man's fence for pre, I'm not saying this floor. I'm not doing any of that, in, you know what if this guy's saying you're going to you're gonna learn. Learn a tough seine-saint, Sean crease, Koper never die. No mercy. Well, then there wouldn't notice the Brian was able to, to, to sneak in both nude beach and wax off in the same. I know Brian willing enough that I am not surprised by that at all. It wasn't even wasn't even planned in anyone. That's ever read his random thoughts of black, and gold mind articles should not be surprised either. So that's a good show next week. We will be back for another Steelers preview where we'll move into the six round. Three pigs and all my gosh talked about must listen podcast. Much must watch YouTube or talking about everyone's camps Arlene, and we haven't even gotten to camp yet Sutton Smith. Oh, sudden Smith. You just say Sutton Smith around the Steeler fan and they start getting all giddy. Is. So you know they have a thing for those Caucasian linebackers. I'm sorry incredible. Then with that said, that's a great way to end the show. For another episode of the Steelers preview.

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Steelers Training Camp Recap No. 12: Thursday 9/3

Behind the Steel Curtain

12:46 min | 3 months ago

Steelers Training Camp Recap No. 12: Thursday 9/3

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Pittsburgh steeler fans welcome back to another episode of Your steelers Training Camp Recap I am Jeff Hartmann your host in co editor of behind this curtain dot com with you. There is only one more day left of training camp after this Thursday practice and it's crazy to think about. And I did a podcast. It's going to air on Friday morning if you're listening to this on Thursday or maybe it's It's going to go Friday. With Dave Scofield and I talked about talked to Dave other co editor of the website. And I said David it's just crazy. Nothing is out nothing is off schedule. With the NFL. You know during this corona virus covid nineteen. Time. Everyone's kind of again with the the. NHL NBA, Major League baseball they all got pushed back start dates, tournaments all that stuff push push push push push now I'm not gonna say that the NFL the off-season has looked normal it has not looked normal and then he starts to the imagination but. It's happened on time. And what I mean by that is that. A week from Thursday a week from one recording this the NFL season is going to be underway with the chiefs hosting the Texans on Thursday night football. That has been the scheduled date then so it feels like forever it feels like it is literally been forever since we've gotten to watch NFL football. But it really hasn't been any longer than normally is it just looked different it felt really different in the steelers are getting ready to wrap up their training camp nuts a day. Thursday, they were in. The UP EMC Rooney's sports complex, which is they're indoor facility on the south side of Pittsburgh. They were not at Heinz field. It was threatening weather. I'm sure they don't WanNa tear up the turf anymore than they already have. And so they moved it inside. But what does that mean that means at there's not a lot of practice reporting going on because media are not allowed at the indoor facility. Did the steelers do on purpose? I duNNo. I wouldn't put it past him because they know that the media can come in. Nonetheless I'm just GONNA give them the benefit of the doubt and say that it probably was just the plan when they looked at the weather forecast. So we're going to go off of like we always do. What the steelers give us and they gave fans to players interviews today this morning afternoon kind of for the second one. The first one was captain. MARKEY's pouncey. Center. He's going into his eleventh year. He talked about everything from the protests meaning does he think that because there was actually talk? I haven't heard too much about it since it was actually talking to the new giants the steelers week one opponent. having boycotting the game not shown up for the game. Now I haven't heard much about since been immediately asked pouncey think anyone on the steelers would do this and he said pretty blunt like I don't think any anyone on the steelers would do this he said but then unless we encourage them to use their platform and they can use that however they'd like. So he he talked about that he talked about how? He's still not happy about he was one of the most out spoken players in the National Football League when I came to being against the collective bargaining agreement that was passed this off season he he's at, he's still not happy. He's they they kind of poor mouth. The owners he said they're billionaires in what what do they need what what are you talking about like? What are we sacrificing things for them? Will they have all this money and so that's his opinion. That's not my opinion is just strictly his. But he went on to talk about how also he feels that he's still loves the game he still loves being around the team he loves being around the player. He finds it these young linemen. These young players are kinda getting the jump pack in his step, and that's something you've heard from Ben Rothlisberger as well. This infusion of young talent has been really good for the veterans on this football team impounds. He said he has no no plan. We'll put it that way. No plan to retire anytime soon even when in detail on his tournament discus and his knee, which happened against the jets in those week sixteen last year last year in New York. And they did not need surgery. He rehabbed the summary feels good. Doesn't think you'll have any setbacks from and they've been treating him as normal veteran would throughout this training camp and so pouncey was ready to go. The second interview that the fan base got to take part in or see when Chris. The trade acquisition from the Baltimore Ravens spoke. Now there's something I did not know that Chris warmly be went to University of Michigan was drafted by the Ravens. Did Not know the he grew up. Pittsburgh steeler fan. He said he loved the steelers. He talked about Mike Tomlin when he was Tom and came to the Michigan Pro Day when he was gonNA senior leaving school. Think. About that and then being drafted by the Ravens and then being traded to the steelers, your holy, not your hometown team but your childhood team and all of a sudden you're now going to be going against the draft. You twice a year I'm sure he's circled his dates on his calendar and he's looking forward to that. Let me think about it. There's a lot of players at least three that I can think of including warmly, that grew up rooting for the steelers actually four Marcus Allen he grew up watching the steelers as a steeler fan loved Troy Paulo Malu Stephan was newsy was a steeler fan he grew up in the Pittsburgh area went up his high school went to Penn State and then Kevin Dotson the rookie. From Louisiana, his his dad's probably bigger steeler fan than he is but he grew up bleeding black and gold that was his favorite team. Pretty cool to see that happen. I've always thought that was really cool. But warmly talked about what he can bring to this defense how he feels like he can add a death element behind hayward into it and he he and Tyson Allawas who? Can really help fortify the defensive line, and so that was the ultimate you know that. Has To feel great to be here in Pittsburgh, and so that's really cool to hear him talk about that. Then they went over the ups Rooney's sports, complex. Let's talk about some injuries before we get into the actual practice report. The injury report from the Pittsburgh steelers said the David Decastro who still suffered a lower he's still doing that lower body injury remained out as he has been as he has been, it's exiting early last Friday. Cam, sutton and wide receiver chase, Klay Pool both have undisclosed. They did not practice both are considered minor and they're just being cautious offensive LINEMAN, Stephan was new Steve's that Wednesday with an undisclosed injury or thought he was given a veterans day off, he returned on a limited basis and long snapper cam candidate. He has a knee injury. Excuse me. He was also limited spin. Center MARQUEES. pouncey was given a veterans day off. So there's your injury report what happened to practice Well, let's go to the practice report. Showy. The weather change a location of practice as I said at the beginning of the show but. It didn't change. The defense is determination to practice as it intends to play. Here's what the practice report states. The ball was hot consistently at the UP EMC Rooney. Sports Complex Indoor facility as it has been for the most part throughout training camp practices at Heinz Field defensive plays in the ball made included quarterback Steven Nelson intercepting a pass thrown by quarterback Rudolf intended for Amara Dr Bell. cornerback Joe Haden, picking off Rudolph in the end zone on a forty yard attempt at a touchdown safety Jordan dangerfield coming up with a deflection of a Rudolph Past. Glanced Off Wide Receiver Safety Blackwell's hands. cornerback Justin Lane batting down roof pass intended for receiver James Washington and safety trail edmonds breaking up and attempted slip screen from Rudolf to wide receiver Rae. Rae. McLeod. These are all good great to hear I love hearing about Terrell Edmonds I love hearing Justin Lanes name in a positive way. Jordan dangerfield is potential depth, and of course, Nelson Hayden look like they're picking up where they left off. Let's go further into the practice support. The offense likewise had its moments quarterback. Ben Rothlisberger Pretty's touchdowns. Four of his red zone snaps via passes to wide receivers, Juju Smith, Schuster Deonte, Johnson, and James Washington and let's not forget Eric Iran Rothlisberger also completed deep balls to Johnson twice an Washington on the afternoon. But on one on one drills between the offensive and defensive linemen including offense tackles at banner holding off rookie outside Linebacker Alex Smith Highsmith on an initial rep then highsmith executing spin move on banner on the second. Banner Padded Highsmith on the helmet when the period ended getting noticed rookie cornerback James Air got head coach might tell attention for containing running back here as white on upon return. That's right to six Tomlin hollered. A little kickers update Chris Boswell connected on field goals of twenty, three, twenty, five, twenty, nine, thirty, thirty, two, thirty, nine, and forty yards during special teams work. The drill included special teams coordinator Danny Smith counting down from ten pre snap at one juncture to simulate a hurry up situation. This is important. This expert punters Jordan Barry An corless weightman shared the holding responsibilities. That might mean that this punting job might come down to the end. We don't know. We'll see now was the practice support not much else happened not much else for was reported. I should say The Pittsburgh steelers now facing just one more day of training camp before they call it a camp and start to prepare solely for week one against the New York giants. I want to remind you that we are giving away behind the steel curtain dot com. A Free I'll say that again, a free markey's pounds e autographed football absolutely free. What's the catch? 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Steelers Burning Question: Which Steelers players needs to step up for a victory vs. the Patriots?

Behind the Steel Curtain

48:56 min | 1 year ago

Steelers Burning Question: Which Steelers players needs to step up for a victory vs. the Patriots?

"Want to know more about what your favorite ninjas have on their minds. Check out the american ninja warrior podcasts. It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for any ninja warrior fan pittsburgh steeler fans welcome to another episode of the steelers burning question. Shouldn't this is not jeff hartmann. This is dave scofield. I'm filling in for jeff. Burning question jeff spent a lot of podcast this week. You had to loan on wednesday atlanta. Williams also went live earlier today with a with a special. The standard is the standard went with some the news was going on and what are you know. There was more news after the fact but here we are. This is the burning question. You're going to get a different host. This show <hes> from week to week. We're going to order switch it up. Sometimes it'll be me. Sometimes we jeff. Sometimes we'll be lance. Sometimes it'll be mr brian anthony davis we're. We're going to be switching it up some just to see kind of how things go and who knows maybe every once in a while. It'll be more than one of us so here. We are and there's a lot a lot of stuff going on in the live chat already. This show is talking about the steelers matchup tomorrow because we're recording it on saturday against the new england patriots as much as i don't wanna talk about it. I'm going to have to mention the news from earlier. I'm going to actually use the players real name mm-hmm but mr antonio brown was released from the oakland raiders earlier today. Jeff and lance went on and did a podcast specifically to talk about that and of course as soon as the news broke. When i was outside mowing my grass i'm writing on the tractor and i get a bunch of texts from jefferson lance and lancet santa told your show i told you so that we now know that <hes> the reason this can be brought up in the news. Now is because this is a player that is now on the team that steelers face this sunday now the whole reason. I'm bringing it up. Is that no. He cannot play play in the game tomorrow night. No he cannot be on the sideline for the game tomorrow night. He was not free to sign in anywhere until after four pm today and the and the transaction cannot happen until monday so it cannot be go through the office because four. PM today was the deadline in order for teams to have their rosters ready for the for sunday so which is really interesting that this was all set up so much easily before that time when although his agent was allowed not to speak to teams once she was released he was not allowed to do anything until that time but my father called me and said well no one must be interested in him because his agents here on TV doing interviews and whatnot if people really interested in them. You'd be working a deal and i said to my father. You know what i think. They already have the deal in place. I think they had to deal in place for a while. They might have already had this deal in place way back in march for all we know that if he could get released where he was going to go and as of today he is released and that is exactly where he went. I have not figured out yet how they are declaring the cap space for the new england patriots to add antonio brown to the roster. I think it's pretty sad that there is someone right now on that roster for this game this weekend that will not be there monday because of him most likely that player is probably not even gonna be active for the game day but maybe they will be. It's hard to say you never know so. All this is coming out but it doesn't affect us game on sunday tomorrow. The the biggest thing with me is seriously feeling pretty good about how the <hes> mister third fifth and fallen off the deep end in oakland and things weren't working out the fact that they got any draft picks out of the deal looked pretty good but guess what the for that. We don't care about that anymore anymore. Because what happened has happened and it's just continually makes fan sick. I think fans from around the league league are kind of sick that a player can behave in such a way and then get rewarded. Some people think he's orchestrated this from the very beginning. I tended to lean that way but i'm not sure that he's really has the intelligence to pull it off but maybe he does. It seemed like he knew what he was doing before this and this all seemed so uncharacteristic but let's not dive into that because that's not why we're here tonight. I'm kinda done talking about it. <hes> y'all wanna keep talking about it alive chad. That's a okay. I know there's a lot of action going on and i'll be honest with you. I haven't really had a chance to really look at it so if you had a question to go with everything tonight i have not seen it yet. I probably won't see it and i'll probably bobby. Wait until a time for one we ask but let's get to the steelers burning question. Let's talk about this game before we hit the actual burden question. I really wanna talk about one other thing that really affects steelers and that was a lot of steeler fans are pretty upset with the roster move that was made today by the steelers where they promoted johnny holden wide receiver from the practice squad to the fifty three man roster and doing so they've released outside. Linebacker virtues are skipper. There's a lot of people that do not like the fact that the steelers released skipper i for one thing. This is a calculated move. It was a calculated move. It was part of the deal of why johnny houghton was brought back a couple of days later. I think it was a plan all along to get him onto into the fifty three man roster and the steelers knew that they were going to do that that because he was the last guy signed to the practice squad. They went with just ten when they had space for eleven eleven to start because they hadn't worked out all the details so i think this was going to happen. The steelers were only carrying wide receivers. They usually carry six many many thought maybe there is an IRA move coming. That didn't happen or things like that. Here's the other thing that people might not think about when it comes to choose our skipper. If the steelers released him last saturday he gets claimed off waivers most likely he had more saxon anyone in preseason there was a very high likelihood that he would get claimed off waivers being saturday the day before a game in order for someone to claim him off waivers now they would then have to release someone for their game and with everything going on with game planning the focus on the game at hand. Do teams really want to go through that. So could they yes. It's still a possibility that he can be claimed off waivers but it's a lot more likely that he'll pass waivers favors now than it would have been if he was released last weekend. I know many people would have rather than released somebody else. Let's say like tyler medicaid which which was one that was popular floating around out there. The steelers aren't gonna weren't going to release one that was going to be active for the game and i done my predictions of who was going to be inactive if i had to go in and change it because i had skipper on the list that he was going to be active. I think what what the interesting changes there. Now is the steelers go to address six wide receivers and all likelihood. There probably not so out of their six wide receivers who isn't going to get a helmet tomorrow now. Some people would say well. It'll be johnny holden. If that's the case. Why did they bring him up onto the roster after other than there's only two reasons it would have brought him up onto the roster at four. PM on saturday if they weren't going to have him active it was either that was the deal worked out with him that he was going to be on the practice squad but he would be on the fifty three man roster by week one to get his higher paycheck or be another team was looking to sign. Him wouldn't be surprised if it was a team. I don't know maybe on the west coast that just released a wide receiver today maybe they i needed someone and wanted to bring him back home because that's where he played last three seasons before this point so there's a lot going on here that the steelers were trying to workout. I'm going to trust them that they were trying to do the best thing that they could do one for the players to their team probably switch the order that was best s. thirteen to what's best for the individual players and three. What's going to allow them to keep the the most talent around so that's kind of how it goes. That was the movie that was made so. Let's dive into the question so here's tonight's burning question which steelers player needs to have. I don't know exactly right alcee these to have the best game or is going to needs to play while to have the most impact against the patriots on sunday now. There's a lot of routes you could take with this one who needs to have the best game the number one obvious answer is ben rothlisberger. That's always going to be the answer whether it be ben rothlisberger. Whether it be mason rudolph wetherby whoever would be the quarterback of the steelers in in order for the steelers to win the game. It kind of the most important position is going to be for the quarterback to play well. It's really difficult for teams to win in spite of their quarterback play. It's not out of the question we saw it. We saw a super bowl win from that purple team in the division in the year two thousand from basically a quarterback tactic could barely get by but the defense one want one in their games so it's possible but in this current setup we all know that it's been rothlisburger berger who needs to have the best game in order for the steelers to win because you can have the best defense in the world but if you don't score any points you're going to end up in a zero zero tie unless the defense puts one on the board or make a turnover in and feel rage so let's leave the obvious ben rothlisberger answer out a no oh already. I've got some people in the live chat <hes> shooting shooting some people some suggestions out there and i'm going to list some of them because i believe they're right. Some of them are actually in agreement to my answer to a similar question. We have on the steelers preview but believe it or not. I might change my answer a little bit. You can look to the offense. You could say that juju needs to come through. You could say that someone like james. Washington needs to step up and so that way <hes> juju isn't drawn as much attention mentioned you could look for events mcdonald as another receiver to step up. You could say the offensive line as a whole needs to play well in order to protect mcbarron and for james connor be able to run the ball. All those are great answers. There's so many great answers on offense that i think i'm gonna stick defects and i've said it a lot of times i said it on steeler stat geico set it on sealers preview the biggest thing that the steelers need to do to disrupt the patriots offense is is to get it. Tom brady and tom brady does much better stepping away from ed rushers coming got him from the side then he does middle rushers coming right in his face. If you've noticed he he can step back step up slide forward gordon back much easier to try to elude those address edge pass rushers coming in from the side then what he does if there is someone coming right up in his face that he can. He can move much better for tobacco than he does laterally side to side. That's just my thought with all of this. So at first i wanted to say j von hargrave but the biggest thing with hargrave is how much is he going to be on the field. If the steelers are running running are running much based defense. How are they going to get him in that rotation and defensive tackle so then i'd say cam hayward well guess what the patriots know how good came hayward as they do same reason that the real answer isn't TJ what bill belichick gushed over TJ rot already in interviews interviews. They know how good he is. They have a game plan for him and my opinion who needs to step up the most is a player that they're not expecting. That's exactly what happened. Last year. Heinz field when i was in attendance when the steelers defeated the new england patriots seventeen to ten the last time new england has not not or did victorious that whatever game for the rest of the season after that and now here we are in week one. I was there and i don't think they really took into account or knew how to handle jalen samuels. He went for one hundred. I think it was one hundred seventy two yards in total between rushing and passing. You had a great game. They didn't know what to do. <hes> didn't have a specific not that they didn't know didn't have a specific plan for him in mind. It seem seem to be so. I think some people are already in there because here's ron kellerman. He's got it. He's about to say to it. Exactly i'm going going to say steph onto it is might be the most important person for the steelers to step up in order for them to win because this is like i said this is all my opinion. We're gonna look at some opinions here for you. Guys a little bit but i think that the most important thing is that inside pass rush. Do they know what they're getting from came hayward. He's pro bowler all pro player therefore who's going to benefit the most is the other guy i think steph onto it if he can if he can be the one that comes through it makes the place and we've all seen it. We've all seen it in flashes. Che's especially when he's healthy and right now i there hasn't been anything with steph onto. Its health all preseason so if he's coming in unhealthy we saw him beat cam hayward and bud depre- to the safety against marcus mariota. I say he beat them. Because mario was getting he's getting sacked for that safety. No matter what the only the only thing that matters which steeler was going to get to him first to get credit and to it got there just before hayward and debris so he he he he got credit for that so i think he's going to be the forgotten guy. J von hargrave had six and a half sacks last year. I think it was six and a half correct me. If i'm wrong that it was he had all those sax last year so they're gonna pay attention to him. There's no one that they can't pay attention to across the front but but what do pres looking great so i'm saying i think the person that's flying the most under the radar on that defensive front steph onto it so if he's steps up to have a big game name that's gonna that's gonna bring a lot of trouble to new england patriots now that ready to turn over some stuff into the live chat but there's a few things i want. I want to answer answer one more thing about this question and that is this because i asked this question of jeff hartmann earlier today. I'm like if the game is tied or one or two point game or even a three point game at the end and chris boswell has to come out onto the field for the tire the win how confident are steeler steeler nation in chris boswell coming out to make this kick. I have a lot more confidence now that last year but i had a lot of confidence going into last year so that's another question to say he's the one who needs to step up the biggest reason i'm not saying chris. Chris boswell was the biggest person who needs to step up sunday night against the patriots is that he he has has to be dependent on the rest of the team for him to get the opportunity. When he made the pro bowl back in two thousand seventeen he got all those game winning kicks six because the steelers put him in an opportunity to make those game winning kicks or he could even attempt them so his it all comes down to who is he going to get the attempts so that's why he's kind of a step back from the being the most important to to step up against the patriots but one given the opportunity if given the opportunity chris boswell is a very big factor in that so all right. I've got a couple of housekeeping things that i i would like to do here but before i jump into the live chat. I'm probably not going to go back and look at past things because there's a lot of past things i wanted to give given exact number two. How many spots are available in the in the contest and the behind the curtain <hes> survivor pool for the side david decastro football. We are up to six leagues. Obviously we are not gonna start another one because the deadline is tomorrow at one. PM and right now 'cause i know i had to send up the information to some people today that asked me <hes> there was someone in the live chat the last time that asked me i attempted to send the link out in the live chats on thursday night but it will not show up youtube will not take the website will not allow that website to come up if if you are not in the survivor pool and you need the link you cannot find it on behind the curtain dot com. I'm going to be typing my email address into the live chat here in a few minutes because that's one thing you can do. You can email me. I will send you the link. There are twelve spots remaining meaning. We are twelve spots up to where we'll have six legs full and now i know that looks like it's six hundred people but because i'm all six because i set them up that would be five hundred at ninety five people all right. That's a good idea. Peter says that i can put it in the description below. I might put it on youtube later. I don't know how to do that now that i'm started because we're actually not going through youtube. We have to use an outside service in order you too and it says it right there on the screen. I'm pretty sure on youtube up in the corner that we go through stream yard. That's the only way that we can now run a show that has multiple hosts and you're like it's just you. Why don't you do it through youtube because i like to be able to bring up wonderful wonderful comments like here of scott got decree that says. AB is a clown okay here. We go getting then with bo helped me out there. It is s. t. l. ourse superfan in dad at gmail.com getting met with bill. Has it in there. I'll try to bring it up here with the actual steelers. BTC SEO's radio account but that's actually email you email me there. I can get you the link to get you into the contest as long as there's still spots remaining and like i said there's twelve left. I want that email up for another reason. I've i've got something that i that. I'm opening up to you all because i need to just open it out to the people that i know better. I'm actually trying to do is to help my brother. He has two tickets to the steelers home opener against seattle september fifteenth one PM game. They are in the upper deck in the end zone section five twenty five rosie. I even have a picture of you from the seats that pretty much you and actually they're the exact seats because between my brother when someone else in people that have season tickets. Those are the exact seats that we did as our giveaway for the first preseason game was i was like hey i'll grab the preseason seats so he can give away. He has them for sale for a really good price a better price at what you're going to get on ticketmaster the reason we don't want to go on ticketmaster ticketmaster take so which is the official official. NFL exchange that's all season ticket holders out to put their seats out there they take so much the money away and we would much rather than listed for that price football is finally back and nothing adds to the excitement minim watching that first game having shot at a million dollars draft kings the leader in one day fantasy football is celebrating the start of the season with an extra special social week one contest new users can sign up today and get a free shot at the one million dollar grand prize just by using code. 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I've actually hardwired in <hes> but if someone would like to see those seats are actually for the for two seats. It's three hundred hundred dollars so that's one hundred fifty dollars a seat for the home opener that is fake. I already see that. I got some people e mailing me asking for the link for the survivor pool. When we are done this broadcast i will get those out. I'm really sorry if if if this is going on again i have a full internet connection connection right now so i'm pretty sure that the biggest issue that we're having is actually through the service that we're running through so in case you didn't in here if anyone is in. Please email me if you're interested to the steelers home opener. That's that's a big deal home opener a lot of good stuff going on there. You're not cheaper than that out there. They're great seats if you've never been to heinz field this is your opportunity so someone said mommy guess. I got my internet from new england. No i don't i. I honestly what i think is happening is that they don't like the things that were saying about the game coming up this week and so therefore they're they're trying to take away <hes> very trying trying to sabotage that much much like they would with the headsets on the sideline so i will. We'll say i didn't even really want to say this at all but since vodka drinker brought it up they've congratulate you on the honest attempt that field goal yes. I knew i was going to go out there and get embarrassed the most embarrassing thing about the field goal if you did not watch it on friday was that i missed all my attempts to the right. I'm i'm not used to missing any attempts like that. I know exactly why did i knew i couldn't kick it. The forty five yards plus. I needed to go across a go through the uprights. It's and i and my attempt to over kick. I i just did not get very good attempts. I will be honest with you it did it wasn't over when the camera went off actually we we lost our feet out there and it was not over at that point but i'm not going to say because i don't wanna make it seem like i'm i'm the one who's making claims because i did not do it on camera but you can ask brian anthony davis and jeff hartmann on thursday on the preview. How things finished up after the camera went off so let's get come on. Let's get in here to the live chat so here we go. Here's lance of course coming into say i already mentioned generally the show lance. If you weren't here at the beginning i gave you credit that lance like he got it right. He knew what was going on what i had to call my father back because that's exactly what i told him was going to happen which is kind of sad because my father is from the boston area so all his family's up there so guess. Which team may they report but but there we go. We got lots of burning question. What i want to have right now is if you all have any questions going into the game sunday. I'm not really wanna talk about the mood. The roster moves that new england made. I'm okay talking about the steelers made or any questions going into the game. Throw throw that out there right now and i will put that on here. People know at what point they can start asking because from this point on i will be looking. I will say that thomas thomas white did say those pants on bad or worse than the kicks. Those were actually talking about. Those were actually game warren pants by. BJ finney that brian had bought and he says i'm gonna put him on to go out there. Jeff was supposed to be wearing his steelers zuma's <hes> but he did not do that so here we got. We got some questions coming here. We go ryan. Kellerman says this holton catch a pass. I'm gonna say this. I'm going to say no. I'm gonna say he he gets a helmet is the fifth wide receiver. He gets on the field for maybe five or six plays. He might not even be targeted his he's going to be getting getting his action on special teams not as a returner but as a gunner and other other things on kickoff punt and all those other teams that that's what he's going to be doing so it would be great if you did catch a pass but i'm gonna say if i had a habit answer i would say no came so let's see what else we got here. I got lance chiming in here. <hes> got a lot of people. The biggest thing that people want to talk about is the whole <hes> antonio brown situation. Yeah snowman said i did have one that went wide left. That's when i tried to put my deflated football back on the t- just to see if it made any difference and i didn't even realize step that off right. I rushed it so that was an unofficial attempt. So if you have any more questions questions coming in here okay here we go. They asked why did two's skipper. Get cut bottom line. This is from jake. How bottom line is the the steelers caring too many linebackers. They were. They were carrying. I'm pretty sure to more than what they did last year. Last year i think they went for the for most of the season with breath with three outside linebackers and five inside linebackers now they did add a fourth ola came off the injured injured reserve last year the designated to return so they usually carry they carried eight or nine last year and they were up to ten so i'm pretty much they've they've almost always carried ticks wide receivers. They were a little bit off balance with that. I still think they did not want to lose to czar skipper but they also knew he was not ready to actually contribute to the team right now so therefore they put someone who could contribute to the team right now on the practice squad that they said we're going to bring you up and that's what happened happened and by doing this move now rather than last saturday like i said before he has a lot more likely to clear waivers so here's another one we have from dallas. It is barren gonna be rusher or coverage. He's going to be coverage in my opinion. I mean he was. He came into league as a safety so it makes sense that that's what he's in. If you've you've watched him in the preseason he covered a wheel route by the by the running back against kansas city down the sidelines to perfection that is what mark mark mariners here for. He has here for the steelers to for a pass coverage linebacker. Devin bush in my opinion is here as both that he's the guy that they're hoping can stuff the run and protect the pass much like ryan shazier vince williams. It's a run stuffer. He's he's a guy. That's a liability in pass coverage. You watch the game on sunday. Watch the game on sunday. Why am i doing your steeler fans. You're gonna watch the game on sunday but during the game on sunday if you pay attention the biggest chessmaster match is going to be the patriots offense trying to us personnel to keep vince williams on the field in order to pass the ball and exploit to match up who he would be covering in pass coverage though used use their personnel to try to keep vince williams on the field because the way the defense works works as they match personnel for personnel then they're going to use that personnel in order to you. Try to pass the ball and get a match up there. That's what i that's my prediction of what they're going to try to do so. Many many people are asking about about that with with a y. Two star skipper was was released so that's that's going on. We are getting some and here we go snowman who doesn't get a helmet. I actually just had to change my thing. This is something i did last year. Most of the time it will come out on saturday but because the steelers play on sunday and there was so much news today that article is going to run tomorrow morning as to my projected inactive list. I think therefore four that are that are pretty much locked. Yeah it was for sean. Davis is doubtful steelers all last year. Nobody was doubtful got helmet. I believe of course josh dobbs is not going to get a helmet because i don't think they changed their depth chart a quarterback and they are only addressed address to i have justin lane not getting a helmet because there have they have six corners and therefore he's he's the guy out of all of them that isn't as his NFL ready and i had a fourth one oh and isaiah bugs because even because they don't more than five defensive linemen and he's the bottom man man on totem pole until at some points he some point he would move ahead of of daniel mccullers that he's not going to be the case yet the last three of the ones that are up in the air check back into buying the steel curtain <hes> tomorrow morning for that article or the project inactive to see who you think are to see what what put out there trying to remember because i had to change job but there's a lot of different possibilities there so that was a great question. There's no man i forgot to tell people feel free to. I haven't seen any yet. I hope i didn't miss any earlier. If if you want your questions answered feel free to use the super chat feature where you can <hes> type in your question then hit the little dollar sign donate any amount of money. You went to the show you you do not need to do this but if you do i will make sure instantly. That's why i have my phone. Sitting here could get color coded on my phone but not here. I will see that question. I will bring up that the question and then i'll get back to the other one. So if you wanna use it that's great. Don't feel like you have to use your hard earned money for that i would. I'm okay with that. I'm not out here. Begging game for begging for money came here. Peter kay hill good question. I'm gonna try to get these fast. Get more of them. In just devon bush lead the team in tackles who ooh that's a good question. I'm going to say i'm gonna say no one will say no. I think he's going to have a lot of tackles but i think the patriots they're gonna pass the baltimore which could be with devon bush. I'm gonna guess i'm gonna guess. Terrell edmonds has the most tackles. I think he's going to be up in there to help. Stop the run and he'll be back in coverage to get tackles. Where what that well. Here's another one from dallas. Quanli will be a low scoring game. I took the under. I took the under the under keeps falling down to forty nine points points that i checked it. I have at the combined score is going to be under forty nine points. It was seventeen to ten last year in pittsburgh. I feel the both pittsburgh's pittsburgh's defense and new england's defense are better than they were at that point last year so therefore i think the indications go to a low scoring game and watch me have to come back back to do a podcast next week to answer why the world was the game forty five to forty three you never know but in my opinion i think it's going to be hello scoring game and with watching that game on thursday night if you could call it that where it was the final score was three it might be an indication of some of the stuff we have for the first week jeff hartmann article which which is on the website right now where we predicted every game against the spread and the over under we took an awful lot of k. Kevin wants to know how. I'm feeling about wide receivers. I'm feeling more about who's not getting a helmet. There is one possibility that i did talk about my article comes out. Tomorrow is what if what if the steelers choose to go with one extra wide receiver and one less tight end did did not dress not dress zach gentry that is something that could be a possibility because i think if johnny johnson is the guy right now. That's kind of in line did not get a helmets. If you want to compare johnson to gentry straight up i'm taking johnson all day and twice on sundays and since their games on sunday we'll take him twice. I'm i'm sorry i was bad joke but the question is position and that is they want to have an extra wide receiver and be tight end. I dunno okay. They asked <hes> we'll update. John return any kicks. I'm going to say no that was from aaron. Something i'm gonna say no because i believe that that he may not even be active for game day. Here we go cre- long <hes> big regular in the live chat how many interceptions it's actually get jeff. Brown told me i was crazy when i said that i i wanted to get six sacks the reason i want so many saxes. I think that new england's offensive line is not ready for the game not because they're not professionals but because they're kind of patch working things together especially at center right now. There's a lot of things that could be exploited there so i think the steelers could get that rush up the middle and get lots of saxe. I'd be happy with one interception. That would be really nice but everything everything above that would be a bonus so i'm gonna try to here. I'm going to try to get caught up here. <hes> thomas wants to know how many steps boswell take on kicks. I would say he he takes traditional three step drop so that's what we're doing i i. I'm afraid i could be lagging here some. I'm really sorry if that's going on because when i'm clicking on stuff here it's taking some time. I apologize so that's that's. That's the the best thing that i have to apologize for that. If it is breaking up again okay. I'm kind of skipping some of these questions. I do have a super chat question. That just came up here now. I gotta try to find it. Point was behind okay here. We go from from jake how he says. What's your take on ben's preparedness. This year versus the pats in comparison to last year well. There's two different ways. I could take that is a comparison to last year against the browns in week one one or last year against the pets because obviously he was more prepared last year for the patriots because it was in week fifteen so i'm assuming that you mean for week one. I'm going to say i. I have a lot more faith in that in ben's preparedness even just as the team because because i know the professionals but they haven't had a really big test i mean their biggest test was when they had to go into washington on monday night and they went in there trounce them pretty good but they've been playing cleveland the last few years where cleveland has not been very good right off off the bat so that could have been part of it. I think you when i liked the fact that their hardest game on paper before the season starts is their very first one 'cause. You've got to step up. You've got to go after it. You've got to see if you can get right off the bat so jake thanks for throwing five dollars and the tip jar. I appreciate that i'm going to go back a a little bit but i'm sure i'll probably skip over some stuff lots of people i liked how the people answering the questions in the live chat. Let's see okay. I'm kind of skipping and trying to keep stuff. That's pertaining to the game this week so here's one from jacob murphy. Do you think we can use holden as a gadget player like we did with spencer because of speed. I don't know if that's really his forte korte. I really don't know i think i think holden is more of a grinder that he's the guy that they have in there to take to go out and do the special teams stuff to do do the things that they might otherwise do so that's that's my opinion so using him as a gadget play and i know a lot of people like oh but they just signed him. He was on the practice squad all week practicing. They knew what they were doing. I have a feeling they knew on monday what they were doing with him so so he was part of the game plan. All along dallas has another question of has the best chance for an interception on thursday. My pick for the first interception for the year. I said was steven nelson awesome. I'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure i know jeff hartmann when joe haden and i think i'm pretty sure bryant davis davis what devin bush but i'm not sure <hes> here. This is a great question from mike. How many quarterback hits the defense get and the answer. Is it better be a lot. If you wanna win. You gotta hit brady. If he gets the ball away he gets the ball away. It'd be great to get the sax. That's why i wanted six six of them but i'll i will sacrifice sacks. I would sacrifice three sacks for an additional six hits. If you know what i mean if you could tell me we can get twice as many. It's if i give up not having many sacks. I'll take it because i think when you hit brady it's really going to get to <hes> <hes> so who started at safety against the patriots last last season so it was it was edmondson davis. They both played in that game because davis did he. I don't know if he exited game at all because i was at the game so it was a lot harder but he did not play. The following week was only game that he missed all season for sean davis so asking about the confidence in kelly or hilton i feel much better with sean davis just because the experience factor but i do believe especially with cam. Kelly kelly feels really like him but it's also going to be <hes>. It's going to have a lot to do with how he shows up in a game against the other teams once all game so the biggest thing is. I think this might be what they're going with. Watts kelly is a guy that's been in there. You gotta know what you're doing. You can't second guess. You can't have your paralysis by alice's. You've gotta know the calls. You can't blow the coverage. You're the last line of defense. You can't blow it back there. I'd rather have someone back there. That's not quite as good not quite as athletic but knows what they're doing one hundred percent of the time then someone that's back there. That's just all world athlete but they're going to give you four or five mental lapses in a game because at free safety a mental lapse very often leaves touchdown came so i'm trying to catch up here. I will grab a few more if we can. <hes> this is a good one from thomas white. What sheriff snaps do you expect between conroy. Samuel's i'm gonna go probably if jalen okay snaps snaps i was thinking carries it. I <hes> snaps interesting. I'm going to go that. It's at least i'm gonna say probably around seventy thirty when it comes to snaps. I think you're going to see i. I think you're gonna see samuels out there in some very situations especially if they could use them effectively as a pass catcher out of the backfield would not be shocked to see them both on the field the same same time so technically. It shouldn't be seventy thirty. It should be something that equals more than one hundred percent because if they're both out there at the same time that would be interesting. I'm just checking to see if there's any more <hes> someone did ask if abe could be on the sidelines and the answer is he cannot he cannot be with the team until he's officially a member of the team at the earliest on monday so still some people asked about that. Hey hey i'm spencer hall. I'm holly anderson. I'm ryan nanny. I'm jason kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast it says in the script dip into riff on what that means and basically what i mean is this all already spoiled every tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle elsewhere. We also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want take college football exactly seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app. Okay someone says goes from joel. Can you explain to me. I'll steelers were able to be so successful on the versus. The pats is last year. It's funny because i didn't so much the breakdown because i was at that game and to me they they. They got tom. Brady they made they made him uncomfortable in my opinion and they stayed true to their i mean they. They knew their roles they they they didn't they didn't have a mental lapses on defense so that's been known for early on in the season on defense defenses those mental lapses so that's kind of that's one thing about playing the patriots the first week the number of tackles from devon bush to end up with <hes>. Let's see let's go with. I'm gonna go with seven. I'd say he's going to be. I'll go him seven and edmunds eight. That might be kind of small but i think they're going to. It's going to be spread out a a lot of different people so i know there's an awful lot of questions coming through. I don't know who's going to sing the national anthem. I'm sorry sorry so. This has been really great. You guys have been all over this. You've talked. You've been able to have a chance to venture frustrations about the situations that happened today. It was a big emotional roller coasters steeler fan feeling that yes we did the right thing and in and trading a player away and then it's just kind of sad to see someone act like such a spoiled brat and get what they want as a parent i know when my when my child act spoiled to just give him what he wants and get his way okay then he's never going to learn and i'm fortunately i think that's what was what happened here today. I want to throw something else out there for those of you disappoint that no one asked the last time i did the podcast podcast in this room. I was given a hard time for the sheet in the background that was covering the bookcase because i didn't want people distracted by the books probably about the only thing you can read up there at the tim tebow book that i have have up there but i took it down that way. It wasn't someone but people asking some questions so i've got a few people will get the emails to you as soon as we're done here with the the link to get into the survivor pool like i said there's only about twelve. There was only twelve spots last. NFL lincoln there jumped in. I'm hoping that everyone had emailed me still gets. It's a chance also if you're interested in tickets to the steelers opener. Please email me. I would love nothing else. Since then someone that i know is the steelers fan coming from the site to be there for the home opener and all the festivities that would be fantastic so lots of funding lots of fun <hes> we will come. I one thing i'm gonna throw it on. A finish on. This question wasn't wasn't the last question that was brought up there but this is from thanks mean joe dave dave final score. Prediction is my score that i gave on the preview on thursday was for the steelers to win twenty six to seventeen and i was flipping our of the flip flop lower the place not knowing which one i was gonna pick. I kind of waited to see which way brian was going to go. I didn't want to be the only guy to on the show to pick the patriots but as soon as you pick the patriots i felt like i could put the steelers because this is a big game. There's a real big game. We'll see what happens. That's my score your prediction. This is me as a homer. I know remember. I'm a fan before anything else so lance product to act full akaphol search strategy that say that right aca full that is what got mr third and fifth for him to get his way so thank you all for tuning again this week for the steelers burning question. We'll be back next saturday. It probably won't be me because we're going to rotate. This could be lance. Williams could be brian. Anthony davis excuse me jeff hartmann. You just never know you're going to have to tune in to see on fortunately tonight was an you're stuck with me so that's kind of how it was. Thank you for tuning in. Make sure sure you're checking in next week. We've got podcasts podcast podcast. They are coming at you every day. Will you have the steelers preview tomorrow night not preview post game. We don't want a preview game. Review it. After the game post game coming to your late on the east coast which should be jeff harmon lance williams of jeff hartmann could make it that late if not and he has to tap me in and that's going to be how it is all right. I love seeing the score prediction coming up there. Keep them rolling while we're closing up guys. Let everyone see what you think so that's that's one. We got the steelers hangover coming on monday with brian anthony davis and tony deaf yo. That's going to be talking everything from the game that happened the day before tuesday. I'll be back with the steelers. Stat gig will break down from some stats from the game on sunday. We'll look at some stats going into the steelers home opener wednesday. We'll be this the the flagship podcast the standards of standard with jeff lance who knows what they're going to be talking about. That's always great stuff with them. Then we'll have thursday the steelers. There's preview back at you talking about the next game friday lance we back with his yeah. I said it another burning question next saturday and then we started all over again people. We are constantly getting this. Getting content live on youtube. You can watch back on youtube. They're in podcast form everywhere. <hes> <hes> that the that you can that you can do it. I know stitcher itunes all that good stuff so thank you amar young for throwing some money into the tip jar the question along with that so but just want to say thanks for an there okay great time guys makes you tuning into behind the curtain for all your steelers news. 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Steelers Burning Question: What doomed the 2018 season? Dysfunction or Turnovers?

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Steelers Burning Question: What doomed the 2018 season? Dysfunction or Turnovers?

"Pittsburgh Steeler fans. What is going on? This is Jeff Harbin editor of behind the curtain dot com here with you another episode of the Steelers burning question if by chance your first time, you or listener, this is a weekly podcast. I do by myself where I simply answer a question that I feel is either pertinent to the Steelers currently or that a lot of people are talking about. So for instance, there's a lot of people that, you know, have been talked Antonio Brown lady on bell, recently, not really going to talk about that too much in regards to this. Today's episode this burning question, I do wanna mention if you're watching live on YouTube in your in the live chat. I've had a lot of people Email me leave comments on other video saying we really like when you all answer some questions from the live chat. And I wanna let you know. I'm going to do that at the end of this episode. So if you're on the live chat right now. Once I'm done talking about the burning question. You can either comment on the burning question that I ask you can ask a separate question. If you like if there's no questions than screen guys. I'm going home, essentially, so let's get right down to brass tacks. And for me the burning questions this week. I give a mad props to my co host on the standard is a standard, Lance Williams. He's the one that gave me the idea for this burning question he said what derailed the Pittsburgh Steelers two thousand eighteen regular season or what derailed it more. I think they both had their hand. But was it teamed is function. Or was it turnovers team this function or turnovers in on the surface? A lot of people would immediately say turnovers because that is a direct correlation to on field play. And I get that. I really do. But at the same time, I can definitely see a justification for saying the team dysfunction had their hand in the overall demise of what we'll be very promising season in the Steelers won six games in a row. They're seven two and one. Everything's looking bright. It looks like they're going to win their Thursday division title. It looks like they're definitely gonna make the playoffs at that time a first-round bye. Or number one seed was still on the line. They trip and fall on their face several times down the stretch. None more larger than Oakland and they finished nine six and one outside the playoffs. They don't win the divisions. I still go back to that stat. Since reliant is kind of getting a sidebar here. But since realignment when the AFC north was created in the Browns Bengals ravens dealers were all placed in that division. No team has won the division three years in a row. Not once there's been several back to back winners. But never three years in a row. I still find that mind boggling I kept an eye on that all season because I'm watching the Steelers thing. Okay. Seven to one man, they could do it. They could be the first team since the creation of the AFC north going from the AFC central to the AFC north. They could be the first team to do it. And they didn't. So that holds true. So what derail it let's break it down one by one step by step brick-by-brick with start with team dysfunction, in my opinion. This was a bigger factor that a lot of people wanna let on and it's not just what we're talking about right now in that is Antonio Brown. It's not just Antonio route. This is. Lady on bell stuff that goes all the way back in the last season. I'm sorry. Two thousand seventeen in my opinion, this dysfunction started prior to the playoff game in the AFC divisional round against the Jacksonville Jaguars. When Jeremy Fowler of ESPN just had very casual conversation with lady on bell in practice leading up to that game where he asked him about what he thought the Steelers might do with new contracts, and what he would do if he were franchise tag again and Bill straight up said man, I would retire before I would play in refranchising tagging in. And I think at a time everyone kind of brushed that off. But it it lingered. At least for me. It did it lingered. Then later on Dell doesn't show up for the walk through before the games. He still plays. Everyone's wondering what's going on? Why Tom and putting up this behavior? He says he had an excused doesn't matter. He missed the walk through and said then. The offseason begins. And everyone's wondering about what's going to happen will the Steelers try to get a deal? Dumb bell. Doesn't happen franchise tag. Again. What do we do? Now. What's the next course of action? Everyone is assuming he's going to do what he did last year that he's gonna report before week one so in training camp off season workouts. No one expected lady on to be there. Because he wasn't there the previous year another franchise tag. Then all of a sudden week one rolls around and he's an Osho. Again. I don't think this impacted the teen that much until he didn't show in week one week one when he didn't show up, I think players were pissed plain and simple. They were angry because I think and you can kind of deduct this from what player said in quotes in different bits and pieces here and there and kinda put this puzzle together, I'm pretty sure that leaving on Bella told them guys, I'll be back. We want him to be back. And when he didn't show up as as it's a direct stab in the back right in the back knife to the back, and they felt betrayed. But you know, what the rule is. You don't talk about another. It's money. Well, they did. And so it kept getting drawn out kept getting drawn out during this whole time. Now. There's underlying current of Antonio Brown stuff, he skipping workouts and OTA's, and he's making comments about you know, how Ben Rothlisberger is not as workouts either. He's talking about his freedom to the media in the press and how he feels like he's not free just odd behavior even offering Tonio Brown. I'll put it that way. And there's all this stuff going on. He's not happy. His numbers aren't great got off to a slow start of the season. He's talking about why fi connection in all this stuff. It's all kind of bubbling up steals a one to one, but they get on a streak. I said earlier they go when six in a row lady on Dell. Now at the week the part report, I think is week seven by week everyone thought okay, he's a show up after the bye week. He doesn't show up players are still pissed. I think now at this point, they're not. Pissed that he's not there. They're angry that they're constantly having to answer questions about him. Not being there. James Connors played his tail off. He is making fans say lady on who playing his plan tremendous football. And so then it gets the stage of the season where all of a sudden lady on bell has to make it are you gonna show up or you not gonna show up, and he doesn't show up in the players rate his locker, and they're taking his shoes, and they're taking shirts and his cleats. A really bad. Look a bad look for everyone involved badly lady on bell because he passed up an opportunity to play on a team that in my opinion had Super Bowl aspirations, obviously fell short too bad look for his teammates to go into a man's locker and steal stuff and take what did they took it or not? It's a horrible, look, okay. In three. Title this. There's some ongoing issues with with Antonio Brown that as the season progresses. It gets worse and worse they intended to Brown in directly related Ben Rothlisberger. Then Rothlisberger makes the comments against after the Denver game. They turn your Brown. Ran the wrong route he said he would have gone to Judi species four straight times if he had the opportunity again, and you could tell the Brown did not like those comments at all. And I think that might have been the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak. So all this stuff goes down lady on bells out, he can't play at this point. And then you get to the point Ray until you run week seventeen just walks out and everyone always wants to refer to now when they say, oh my gosh. Look at what the offense look like without Antonio Brown in week seventeen against really bad Bengals defense. I'm pretty sure that the game plan leading up to that game had into new around in it. And then when he didn't show up after Thursday Friday, if I got my my time line, correct things change, really quick. And you don't always get time, especially with the rookie James Washington to get acclimated to the game plan. I'm not so sure that that would be the default offense for the Steelers Antonio Brown's not there next year. So all this stuff's going on. It's behind the scenes, and you just had this different feel to it. You know, you go to the go to the two thousand seventeen season when they had the national anthem ish. Issue and Alan hundred Villanueva even with all those off-field issues going on in with lady on bell still at before that season having franchise tag stuff going on. It never felt like it was a distractions. But I cannot say the same thing about this team in two thousand eighteen I felt that it was a distraction. I felt they combine that with those losses key losses where you could point to one play typically especially early on. It was a Chris Boswell mis kick where people felt that. They were good enough to win these games, and they weren't winning. And so when you're losing and you have all this stuff going on off the field. It's like the perfect storms, and it just bubbles up to the surface, and you had players lashing out not lashing out verbally at the the media, which is something Tonio Brown earlier in the season preseason where he threatened punch a a writer from the feed who kinda wrote a hit piece on him and his relationships off the field in his social media. He called Ed bouchette of the Pittsburgh pros Gazeta racist. Just because we shed suggested he might have been limping off the field after this quote unquote, quad injury that kept him out of all of training camp. All this stuff. Just bubbled the surface and players just felt like he couldn't take it anymore for the first time with all this drama around the killers. You had I I can't speak for everyone. But for me, and I mean on the one answering this question right now this did have an impact on the field. It absolutely an impact on the field lay on Dell being there had an impact on the field. What is was it a great impact that he wasn't there? No. Because like I said earlier James Connor he bought out. He played tremendous football a Pro Bowl season. Okay. So I think Antonio Brown. He's a he had some issues going on some lingering stuff that eventually escalated to the point where he said, I'm done undone. So do you think it did have something to do with the play on the field and the regular season? But. At the same time. You have the other side of the coin in that is turnovers. And this is the biggest bugaboo for myself and for my co host Lance Williams when we talked about the season. Just listen to these numbers. Okay. We're talking about turnover giveaway. Takeaway ratio. The Pittsburgh Steelers ranked twenty eight in the National Football League in the two thousand eighteen regular season. Okay. In terms of takeaways. You create an interception you force and in recover a fumble. They had eight interceptions and seven fumble recoveries for total of fifteen now. It's about the giveaways. We're talking about your giving the ball away seventeen interceptions. Nine fumbles lost for a total of twenty six that simple. Math folks, minus eleven turnover differential, minus eleven twenty eight in the National Football League. The best team in the league. The seattle. Seahawks. They were plus fifteen. But if you look at the top teams here in terms of turnover differential tummy, what were they all have in common Seattle plus fifteen Houston, plus thirteen Chicago, plus twelve LA Rams plus eleven New England plus ten Kansas City plus nine New Orleans, plus eight Cleveland, Denver Washington plus seven, and I could go on from there. But before we got in Cleveland, those top seven teams you're talking about teams that everyone thought would be legitimate contenders. In the playoffs. You look at Dallas was plus three Indy was plus two yet to go down all the way to the LA chargers. The Baltimore Ravens. We're actually minus three to the only playoff team that had a minus turnover ratio. And that was probably because of Lamar Jackson fumbling issues. It's tough to say that the dysfunction off the field had a big impact on the play on the field. I do think it it mattered. I guess the team distracted on more than one occasion. And from the ports coming out. It's hard to disagree in hard. Not to understand why they would be distracted. But here's the kicker turnovers loss games this year period in everyone thinks of turnovers day mealy think of then Rothlisberger number seven y he led the NFL and interception seventeenth, which is the lowest margin. The lowest Mark in a long time. At least stay Scofield for that stat that it's the lowest interception. Total to lead the NFL in a really long time. But still he led the he led the league interceptions at seventeen and everyone remembers the really bad picks that loss games and not only loss gains. But turn the tide. Think back to the Atlanta Games. Early in the season. The Steelers are a team that is on the ropes in my opinion. A must win game. They drive down the football field in less than two minutes at the end of the half. They get the ball to start the third quarter. Their info there in chip shot field goal range. They're looking to points on the board Rothlisberger throws a pick. There you go. It's it's just unbelievable. How that turned the tide? Now granted they ended up winning game. The falcons, we're not a very good team. You look at the Denver game spoke about that interception. Earlier just really really bad tournaments. But the thing is like I said everyone thinks about Ben Rothlisberger. But he wasn't the only culprit here folks good week once the tie to the Cleveland Browns. James, Conners fumbles. I'm sorry. I know that the conditions were ideal. But I'll tell you what there's this fumbles where you turn the ball over and that was in their own zone if the Steelers just punishable away there they probably win the game. Instead the Browns get new life. I don't wanna hear about the Nick shove, Sean Davis punt recovery, fumble, whatever the Steelers got hosed in that call but it wouldn't have mattered. If James Connor doesn't fumble the ball in that earlier situation. Go to the saints games. The Steelers were there was their game to be. Had they were moving down the field in whatever was calling hostile environment in the National Football League against the best team as everyone was saying the National Football League and juju Smith, Schuster fumbles, and it's just as backbreaking turnovers that seemed to be the ongoing trend for his every single matter if with every single event on the time line of dysfunction in the two thousand eighteen season. There were turnovers that were marked every single step along the way even in wins. It were bad bad turnovers that just left he scratching your head saying my gosh, what is going on. So let's let's wrap this thing up here, which was more important. I do think the to kind of fed off each other. Like, I said it was the perfect storm. It was bad play on the field at really bad times. And it was awful awful dysfunction off the field, you combine is to mushroom cloud so to speak, and that's the Steelers to doesn't eighteen season. But if I had to say the one was more responsible for the dysfunction, not the dysfunction, but more responsible for missing the playoffs for having a very mediocre season. For really falling off the face of the earth. After what looked to be very promising seven two and one record Citerne overs has to be the turnovers because like I said turnovers ended football games. You could even go to Jacksonville the turnovers were bad there. And there's a my opinion, you know, dental office burger is a Ryan Switzer. I don't know they call defensive holding or pass interference ever. Remember them that game where he threw a pick in the end zone and Bank. Flea Switzer was yanked down they called it. They got new life Rothlisberger. Scrambled in for a touchdown on the next play to win the game. Those careless plays lack of ball protection by the people running the football just can not happen. So I think about points of emphasis, everyone knows with the Steelers point of emphasis was leading into two dozen eighteen tackling tackling tackling tackling. That's all you heard from the coaching staff the general managers defensive coordinator, everyone that has say in the Pittsburgh Steelers. It was all about tackling and they're tackling improved tremendous article buying steel curtain dot com days ago. And it was all about pro football focus put out there stats for miss tackles in two thousand seventeen Steelers ranked I wanna say twenty eighth maybe even worse in terms of mistake. -als they improve so much they ranked fifth in the least amount of his tackles. So the tackling improved was a perfect absolutely not. I still have visions of Terrell Edmonds. Taking horrible angles. Throughout the seasons, but it improved. So I think if there's a point of emphasis offense only going in two thousand nineteen it has to be protect the football. Because if you have a defense that's not capable of taking it away. At a really, really great clip. You're gonna leave yourself vulnerable to just turning it over and coughing it up. So that's something that cannot happen. I say in this burning question, it's not the team dysfunction that derail the season the turnovers. And I guess you could say misfield goals would be a turnover because technically they get the ball at the spot derail the seasons. They were a few field goals away a few turnovers interceptions fumbles away from potentially having a first John by in the any AFC plastic about that for a second. Some I'd say that you look at two thousand seventeen the bounces went their way. And they were therefore. In a first-round by position and the blues in the divisional round. I understand that. But maybe that's just the season. Maybe it's just kind of way the ball bounces. We'll see we'll see how goes, but in terms of what derailed doesn't eighteen in my opinion. If you're using between team dysfunction in your shoes in between turnovers on the field. I don't think there's any way you can say team this function Trump's actual play on the field. But I wanna know what you think if you're listening to this audio form on behind the curtain dot com or any platform feel free to comment. Good. The comments action. Let us know if you're live on YouTube. You can let us know in the live chat. Currently or if you're watching this and replay go to the comments action in there. Let us know what is the answer to this burning questions? What do you think? Now at this point while open up questions to anyone that's in the live chat right now that might have a question about anything. It could be about turnovers. It could be about projected players. It could be about the NFL. Draft. Although I gotta be honest. I don't know a lot of prospects. Currently because I don't watch a lot of college football. And this is just a precursor to the offseason because we're still going to give you audio content. And I know a lot of fans they follow college football, so close, and they know all these prospects. That's just not me. I spent much time on the Steelers. And so I learned about these processes we go. So like when the combine comes senior bowl couple names pop up starting to learn common more pop up when they bring it in the players for their visits. That's when really start getting into the nitty gritty so with that said. Questions. Let's see we have any here. Okay. We have one from Sahi said, you think that Ben Rothlisberger wouldn't get a contract extension? That aby would stay seems like this all started as soon as it was announced. Ben could be getting extended. You know, what that's a really good question. And that's an answer. I have an answer that on the anyone does. I don't know what Antonio Brown is looking for obviously, he wants he wants a change of scenery. That's very well known. But at the same time, I look at this and think that does he really understand what he's asking for because he doesn't control he's not gonna be free agent unless the Steelers completely release which will never happen because then they would be getting having twenty plus million dollars dead cap space taken up by a player that they're getting nothing for. So anyone thinks that's going to happen that you're foolish. But at the same time, let's say the Steelers trade him to buffalo, or let's say the Steelers trade him too. Trying to think of another teams that the Oakland Raiders or let's trade him to the Miami Dolphins a were even listen number of teams that they trade him to that aid. Does not have a quarterback the caliber then Rothlisberger be that he and quarterback. Do not have the time spent in the report that he and Ben Rothlisberger do and see a teen might not put up with all his crap that he reportedly puts the Steelers to on a yearly basis that they kept quiet for so long all these people out there on the mainstream media say the Steelers doing Antonio Brown wrong. Are you serious the Steelers covered up how many of these stories and did not let them get out because Antonio Brown was that good now all the, you know, the you to what's hitting the fan and all these stores are coming to light. So would they would they would he consider staying? I dunno. I think he just wants out period. Okay. Vodka drinker. He saying he's gonna give Trela mulligans for last year. I understand that, you know, something about Terrell Edmonds her no he just doesn't jump off the tape. I watched rewatch him every game. And he looked he looked slow. I didn't like that. Hopefully next year is better say is it longtime listener trade AB for Lovie J. No. Oh my gosh. I know he's laughing. He wrote ha ha he's joking around. I don't want any part of any more diva receivers give me James Washington. Who's a farmer? He's literally a farmer. He has no drama in his body. Take him and juju Smith Schuster any day of the week. Okay. Let's see here. Other questions. How did Rudolph compared to Mayfield in college? If I know terms of big twelve play they were the best quarterbacks in the big twelve. I do know that Mayfield obviously had a more head a better team. But when you look at numbers, I don't have them in front of me the need. That's a an article topic that we could write for behind the curtain dot com. How did they compare Rudolph? Most people said it was a better pro prospect in terms of his ability to re defense's his ability to stay in the pocket, his size his arm strength. So in terms of comparison. I don't have the stats in front of me. But I do know that Rudolph's numbers were very much right there. But they Mayfield Baker Mayfield had the intangibles that most people coveted the leadership. But the thing is that's not a knock on Mason Rudolph he had every ounce of those same intangibles. I think a lot of people thought that roof was not ready for the next step. Just yet. The Steelers took a flyer on them. We'll see if. Ever pans out if it ever pans out. Okay. See here. Oh, you got some non Steeler fans chime in, and I was like we have we have several listeners viewers on the that are fans one's a patriot fan. Hey, if they like listening to me talk about the Steelers the entire time. That's fine. Yes. He got Joe's. If he has a question. What's your gut feeling is AB in a different uniform next year? Yeah. My gut feeling is. Yes. A lot of it will depend on. What happens off the field in terms of what they get in return? I just don't see any way that this marriage to speak is reconcilable. I don't think that they can get back that started. I don't think they could come back from that. And players are going to say the right thing. They're going to say they want Brown. They're gonna say that because they want into Brown because he's good. I have a feeling that a lot of players in that locker room. You just listen to the comments especially leading up to the Super Bowl a juju. Smith Schuster made some very Frank comments cameras, another one I had a feeling that they they were sick and tired of he and Leon on bell. I mean, sick and tired of it. And I think that they're okay with him being gone. They're gonna miss their production. But I think that they're totally fine with them being gone because there's of it period. And I think that's that's something to keep in the back of your mind as this thing plays out where we go. Whoever gives them the best offer that's not an ASC contender. So if he's not gonna go to a division rival, he's not gonna go to the patriots. He's not gonna go somewhere like that. If they're gonna look for someone of some like, the forty Niners would not be a bad choice, but the forty Niners you willing to give them the compensation that they want. Okay. They could shift Arizona let let him play with Josh Rosen. Let me know how you. AB that I have an article coming out hopefully Friday, maybe tomorrow about how anyone that's interested in tenure Brown buyer, beware period. Because there's a lot of stuff that can go wrong with Antonio Brown's. All right. So here's David patriots fan. What do you guys think about trading Browns and the patriots? Let's say the offer I round picks the best offer you get. I don't think they would do because the patriots first-round pick the thirty second pick the Steelers had the twentieth pick. They would have to give a player a very good player and pick for them to even think about it. And I still don't think they'd make that deal because they wouldn't want Antonio Brown to be the reason just like they kind of had that feeling James Harrison went there knows a different scenario. I get that. But you kinda had that feeling that. James Harrison may when he went there steals like oh my gosh. We could probably face this guy again. And what if he is deter determining factor of a women loss? What if he gets around the edge and sacks brought burger I mean, it would it would be devastating and it didn't happen. But I don't I don't think they make that deal. No matter what let's see if we have a couple more questions before we call it a. Got a couple more. Here we go vodka drinker. Says you have your AB. Why would you be doing all the social media drama? It's only hurting him at the other teams looking at acquiring him. That's a good point. But at the same time is it hurting him was hurting the Steelers think about this for a second. He goes on social media, and he puts out these I loved holidays. I love how he put out a thank you fans. Video of nothing, but highlights of himself that is so AB, and I love what Marco Bali of the road. He's there's a very distinct difference between Antonio Brown's and aby almost like AB is the persona the doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hidesato, speak and he's dead. But that's so aby you this guy. If you fall him on Instagram he has fans coming up to his car window every day he signing autographs. He's really good with his fans, you're telling me. You're putting out a video saying thank you fans. You couldn't have taken some of your story videos, mash them up and shown you interacting with your fans to say thank you to the fans. No. Instead, he puts a look at me highlight reel as a thank you to the fans. What what here's the kicker give back to your question, a quick sidebar there, but vodka drinker, you say, I think this is the Steelers because with all this stuff that's going on Antonio Brown's getting his money. No matter what he's going to get that dead money from the Steelers, no matter what he's under contract. So what he's doing right now is he's hurting the Steelers because people are going to say, he's got this domestic violence thing. He's got some off field behavior. He's now in as social media stuff. We don't know if we want to deal with this the best offer you're going to get as a second round pick, no players involved. Just a second. That hurts his stock. I don't think he cares about his stock. Now the Steelers can screw him right back and send a team like Zona. And say FM of this have fun with a rookie or second year quarterback half with the team that has the number one overall draft why they have that pick. They suck last year. And so it's going to be a cat and mouse type thing it's not a once and all the other. But at the same time there you go. All right. So. Frank is very upset that I'm answering questions in the life feed that he labels a stupid. So he says talk about stuff that matters that could fix this team. What needs to happen to fix this team? I seriously believe there are three or four players away from being a legitimate Super Bowl contender two thousand nineteen Fantoni brownies. They need to either draft a wide receiver high that can come in in step in on day one and be dynamic player that doesn't mean he has to be the same players Antonio Brown. But he's someone that can impact the way defense handles the office. That's one key a need to get an inside linebacker. Jon Bostick is not the answer. I don't think Eljay foresee answer free agency might be your best bet there, but they need an inside linebacker period that hold his left by Ryan shazier is still giving they need a cornerback opposite Joe Haden. If Artie burns recovers from last season and becomes a a good player. Then that's great. But you can't Bank on that happening. So there. Four you need to get a solid quarterback. And for me. I'm looking at a safety. I said I'm not sold on Redman's. I think trill Edmonds would be the perfect fit for the role that Morgan Burnett field out when he wasn't injured last year. He will talk about that nickel that dime safety that comes in like an extra linebacker. I would really like to see them getting more of a ball hawking more lead safety to play alongside Sean Davis. I thought John Davis headed tremendous season. And I think if they can do those things this team can be dangerous because you look the backfield. They still have the skill position players the offensive line still intact. They could see a free agent change there. But I don't think it's going to impact that much defensive front is doubt. I think outside linebacker death. But not starting is an issue, but other than that if they can get those four players, and if Chris Boswell clearly can find his game again, I think they'll be just fine. Okay. So let's go ahead and. Find his will have one more here. One more. Is there any chance to steals? Get a deal close to what the raiders God for Cooper or Dallas overpay. That's a good way to end it here in terms of questions. I think that for me. The fact that that deal is done the middle of the season was a big deal because the Cowboys needed a receiver. And when you need a receiver euro, you're sometimes willing to overpay for it, and Amari Cooper paid off as he worth what they gave up. I don't think so is Antony around better than market or either believe he is. But at the same time, you have to be very careful and precise about offseason, trades and NC's and traits. Look, the raiders were gutting their team anyways. And they were they were willing to take whatever they could get. And so when the Dallas Cowboys, we'll give you I well, they give you a first round pick for America Cooper. They might give him up to there's no one in this planet that would have said no to that deal because you're rebuilding the team anyways under Jon Gruden. So we'll they get a deal like that. I don't think so unlike into new Brown Amari Cooper off the field has been pretty much Saint his production is starting to match the trade of little bit. But at the same time, I think that it's something that seriously could be. Viewed as overpayment period. So. There you go. I thank everyone for listening to the show watching the show. What however your viewing the program if you're watching live on YouTube. 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Steelers Preview: Deciphering Fact from Fiction after Week 1 of Steelers Training Camp

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Steelers Preview: Deciphering Fact from Fiction after Week 1 of Steelers Training Camp

"Parvin editor behind the steel curtain dot com and I feel like a complete idiot because I I guess I should apologize to everyone out there listening or watching because because we're used to having our Youtube Channel be nice smooth easy well of course you do Google decides to act the way that we used I used to do our sign ups and all this stuff and so now we're trying to go through a third party service and I am seeing that there are some people is should be connected to our youtube channel but before four we get into all this crap and I'm pissed off already. Dave Scofield is here Brian Anthony Davis they're here. It took US longer than expected guys how you deal with Brian. How's it going Jeff relaxed fine? You've got day got here. We've got your back. Don't worry about it on the T. V. Right now. It's the Broncos it's the Falcons preseason has started. The steelers played nine days. Rejoice my friend. Dave talked me off the ledge. I this is how bad I am. I didn't know there was a preseason game tonight. I've been so busy and everything I didn't even realize that was on so okay sure so I you you guys have it together more than I do Jeff. We've got people in a live chat youtube so here we go. We're good to go. We finally got what you guys. Let's talk about some sealer stuff. Let's do that. I do want to say too now that we are simulcasting live on Youtube. It looks a little different. The screen doesn't change you know Dave and Brian are smaller. I'm larger that wasn't intentional of I was the person who set it up as has still if you we have the super chat feature is still available. We can see all of this stuff <hes> that's going on on. It's actually a little bit. I actually don't mind this look <hes> for the US host here with the live chat right on the screens anyways the Pittsburgh steelers again I just I feel so flustered. The still the Pittsburgh steelers have just wrapped up their first full week of training camp obviously reported last Thursday. They've got through a whole week tomorrow night Friday night or if you're listening to this on Friday obviously that is tonight. Is there Friday night lights practicing latrobe highschool. Everyone always looks forward to that. It's different setting different time <hes> and they do a lot of different stuff but let's look back in the week that was before we look at the week coming up because this is the preview after all and Dave what was something that stood out could be recently or just in general from the first week of training camp. The Camaraderie is really good. I think the intensity is really good the I'm sorry I thought I'll Villanueva's answered to their little scuffle. A camp was really really good. I thought he played that quite well with the saying they were arguing about game of thrones which makes it the comments about Ben having the most funniest hand a longtime plank football. That's what you WanNa hear. You want your guys out there being a team team having a good time and wanted to go out there and perform. What about you there Bryan? What were your thoughts? Anything stood out from the first week. Juju snuck through the back door. That's all you gotta stay about his mindset and his what he is feeling right now. The destroyed now and then Vance McDonald comes out and says Ben Roethlisberger is on fire right now this is this. This is my stick encamped here but he's the most fun I'm John. It just feels like the new Jan brick eighty of Pittsburgh steelers football. I'M GONNA go different routes. Something happened today <hes> and because I try to take all this training camp stuff they giant grain grain of salt because you don't know there's not really being tested but Chris Boswell today was input into his first live. You've kicking. I guess whatever you WANNA call it. He is live live game scenario. That's what we'll call it and he went poos perfect six for six I think they said he hit a fifty two yarder to end the practice <hes>. I thought that I thought it was honest. I thought it was really good. The he is kind of getting back on track because although everyone's on matthew right and all this stuff I'll tell you what if Chris Boswell can can can go back to two thousand seventeen Chris Boswell. We willing to be having these discussions but something that we talked about. I know I talked with Dave about this. Cameron candidate in the long snapper today got injured. He hurt his groin join and he's has to have an M._R._i.. On it who was the tight end is it would is that his last name driver would travis woods as a tight end a trevor well Trevor Trevor yet okays it trevor would is a long snapper slash tight end what would that be interesting in terms of your fifty three roster predictions because if candidate Casey he cannot play 'em should've might bring in another long snapper but if they feel that it would can get the job done now instead of the three specialists you only have to because he also play tight end <hes> yeah because he gets you put them as a slash player interesting to see how that plays out injuries speaking of injuries. I guess I should say that it's not a the steelers knock on wood have had a pretty healthy camp. <hes> Ryan Ed Switzer a quad. They said he participated ye today but it wasn't a full participant. Dante moncrieff jammed my finger yesterday. He also was a partial participant Sean. Davis has been out of the dislocated finger T._J.. Wad is due out with a hamstring. Johnny Holden returned from his hamstring. I believe leave so it's certainly interesting how the injury situation but compared to other teams. The steelers are sitting fine in terms of the injury situation. I was there anything else. David Sudan used from this week of I. I like what guys are doing when they're given the opportunity you to run with the ones I mean Ola Dehnieh Didata here however lance way to say it is getting more wraps with the ones because first Chila was out <hes> depre- was out today what's still on pop so he's really getting some work and and showing that when he's going against the twos he's really tearing up when he's going against the ones he's got his work cut out for them but they're getting important work same same with <hes> <hes> with Cam Kelly Brian's Guy <hes> getting some work with the safety so it's nice to see these guys that you weren't even sure where they would have a spot with the team team getting some work with that first team so you can't say that it's just because they're playing against lesser quality would have been you brian anything else to sit out from the week that was in the wide receivers are really shining in camp but that doesn't mean corners in the secondary either so they're both seem to be playing so much better and there were question marks going into the season so that's a bright spot fought. Yeah I will say this. I'M GONNA run. Lance was so kindness week and I use that term loosely he did to <hes> podcasts as we one yeah. I said I'm going to run that tomorrow probably tomorrow afternoon. He's INTRODUC- I said it live on Saturday <unk>. Hopefully we get him all set up and ready to go <hes> but his yeah I said it for this week was the first one was take all this camp news with a giant grain of salt felt because you just it's practice and even by Thomas said you know they're still getting acclimated everything. They're definitely <hes> it's. It's one of those situations where they're still getting a feel for everybody so I'm not going to put too much stock in any of this stuff. I'M GONNA put stock into the actual preseason when it rolls around which is next Friday the Tampa Bay buccaneers at Heinz field. Everyone's going to be excited for that because egg even watching Mason Rudolf Joshua Dobbs and Devon Hodges has been having a good camp so far. It'll be fun to watch as well okay. Let's shift gears now to the stack each segment dave go ahead. Whatever you're ready okay first things first? I have a trivia question. That's not exactly a stat and that is this. This is something that Brian did several four weeks ago with steeler different steelers names. I don't think he asked us one and if he did you guys should get it which current steelers real first name mm-hmm is Fidel Various Darius. How would you spend e- than Capital D. E. R. I. U.? S. Go ahead Brian. Ryan knows it a number thirty four trill admits that is correct Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Darius Terrell Edmonds. I knew Brian would appreciate that never got all right. What is play off of his head Gotcha? Did you know that or was that a good guess. Oh No. I knew that Faira Letterman's I think the others have some I think actually I think trade bins is fair Reminder Pharaoh ornaments junior Gotcha Gotcha all right so let's do this quick stat and it's this has to go back to where I was with Brian and Tony on the hangover Monday night. Somebody asked a question that I put a Brian Anthony Davis tonight I abstained from answering it and it had to do with who is going to have a better year between two former steelers but I thought maybe I'll embrace that a little bit this week but do it a little bit different with numbers. Here's your question who is going to have more wins in two thousand nineteen the Pittsburgh steelers or the New York jets and Oakland raiders combined combined now. If you WANNA look at where this comes from the steelers last year had nine wins the jets had four and the raiders had four so the steelers had more <unk> wins the two of them last year but if you look at the Vegas projections they have the steelers once again at nine or nine and a half depends on where you look the jets are seven and a half and the raiders are at six. So what do you think more wins by the steelers or more wins by those teams combined. I'll take the field and that's not to say to the steelers are GONNA be bad. I just think that the raiders are going to win some games even though there are a tough division and the jets. Let's I think with Sam Darnold are going to be a little bit more improved than in. That's a bad division outside of New England so they should be able to Winston Division Games so let's say they both go six and ten. That's twelve wins. I know I predicted thirteen and three for the steelers but at the same time that's tough so I'll take the field in this one's. What do you think Brian? I gotta go. I gotta go with a Combo guys so I agree with Jeff now. If we were talking a combination of the bengals the Arizona Cardinals I would pick the steelers over them. I just think the raiders are much improved. <hes> I actually think Mr big chest is going to make a Derek Carr a pro bowler again. He's going to actually save his job and I think the jets are going to be a little bit better. They're not they're not gonna be a bottom of the barrel teams this year. They're not going to be amazing but enough to be the steelers record if you combine them Dave Jeff. I just got remind you because we know you are the center of attention which means it stays on you when you roll your is everybody's GonNa see it on Youtube so remember. I think what I definitely know. I know that I would take if we take games wins only when those two former steelers are playing in the in the Games that I've definitely taking the steelers because I wouldn't be surprised sized if some time missed a New York and I honestly if it ends up being where they're out of contention for the play offs and Oakland I could see he mr third and fifth just flying off the handles because he just can't handle it so that's a big wildcard but let's say we go overall Oakland in New New York versus the steelers. I'm going to say I'll go get you guys and I'll take the steelers <hes> I'd like to. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a push but Step out on a limb and I'll I'll go pittsburgh okay. Is that offer this tagging that Gig now all right very good. Well mm-hmm doesn't speak. I think that I like that kind of gambling edge to it there. You know during some odds speaking of odds I talked to Davy text earlier today a and I think I told Brian he has saw him in person. Recently crazy odds is that Juju Smith Schuster is actually favored. <hes> has better odds to lead the N._F._l.. N._F._l.. Receiving then Mr v <hes> Mister third and fifth is twelve to one and Juju Smith Schuster is ten to one now guys WanNa ask you you. Do you think that is more about the player maybe a Mr third and fifth on the decline and Jews you on the incline or do you think it has more to do with the player throwing passes. What do you think Brian? I'm surprised because I think mister big chest is going to go ahead and have a pretty phenomenal. Nobody wants them to I think like I just said a couple of minutes ago. I think he's GonNa make there are a car. Even better remember Derek Carr. A couple years ago was a pro bowl caliber. I believe he went to the probe. WHO's a very good quarterback if you know with with ready for that just makes him a whole lot? Better I o kissed so I really have something to do with Ben Rothlisberger so yeah I guess so go with that. Dave first of all I wanNA disclaimer Lamer that any quotes that you all have will go in article that I put out about this. That'll probably be out this weekend or sometime when we fit it in when we're not having all this breaking news so be careful what you say because I will quote you so now that you know that <hes> exactly what I said said that you earlier jeff when when we had <hes> communicated about it I think it has so much more to do with throwing the ball and I also think it has to do with the other options around them them to make the person who's throwing the ball better for example. I'm loving what I'm seeing from the receivers in Pittsburgh that it looks like there's there's GonNa be multiple options for Ben Rothlisberger this season that he's not going to have to force the Juju. You're going to have other guys work in <hes> ever since they got into pads. deontay Johnson has just been going up and up in his foot work is great and all these other here from him. Who is that Dave my my favorite draft pick? They all all camp. He's been getting into touchdown zone touchdown then a lot so it's it's exciting. Here's the thing that I also find interesting. I know this is a side note. Ever since the pads went on the offense has won seven shots every day the defense wanted without pads but the offense is wanted with pad. You generally think that would be the other way around that. The defense would have the advantage with pads but they got. They've got options they they've they've really got options to throw to and with Ben Having more options that's going to allow hopefully not as focusing coverage on Juju which means that Mr third and fifth if they don't have a lot going on out there you're on the west coast that they could just throw so many people at them because they he he showed himself that you can get in his head. That's the biggest the thing that I factor that he's got to go with now that teams know they can get in his head. So can I do it or not. Okay so let's go to our next which is Kinda. The headline of this is the title of this episode is deciphering fact from fiction <hes> in regards to the upcoming week. <hes> the leaked was <hes> a lot of that seven. This is an article that Brian Anthony Davis typically does for our show <hes> for just our show but also for behind the occurred dot com and so I asked him on short notice as it. Hey let's do some factor fiction tonight and let's just see what people in the live chat have to think about it. We already do have some the people giving some money in the live chat. If you don't know what that is <hes> like for instance of I think it was Dave mispronounce the names of leashes through a dollar and a tip jar because as is a mispronunciation <hes> we had a question from Leo for two dollars. The tip jar will answer that towards the end of the show. I won't forget about it <hes> and then Isaac Thurs twenty dollars a tip jar is here's twenty bucks kick Brian off for the comments about Mr third and fifth going to have a better. They're not gonNA kick him out the Chevy. You're you feel free to your bed. Okay so you can utilize that super chat feature by winter says Chad publicly with B._T.. S._e._C. Radio on the right. There's a little dollar sign. You can click that dollar signed undo any amount of money you want to the program because straight to the program. You're half use it but you can because if you do we guaranteed to answer that question so Brian. Are you ready. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football all podcast it says in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean is it's all spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable national pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches. We're now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP. I am a friend so let's let's go ahead and go okay. Let's kick this off with our Oh hundred Villanova his little scuffle including fisticuffs versus Cam Hayward and camp this will ultimately be disruptive eruptive fact or fiction fiction big time station. It's visible game. It's a physical game team and guys are going at it. It's hot and I feel like they're at that point now where they're sick and tired of going hitting each other. They're sick of hitting each other so <hes> <hes> this typically happens we saw with Mr Third Fifth Against Ike Taylor in the past we saw with <hes> mister third and fifth with Artie Burns in the past we saw with Ryan Clark and a few other receivers vast. It happens it. I don't think it ever disrupts the team. It would have to be really really bad. Add Dave Woody thing when you get in the trenches. You're always going to have a little bit of that. Even I mean I was telling my wife today. You could be best friends and if you're going to go up against each other. I mean that could be my brother that I'm going against and if we get going eventually we're going to. We're going to have it out. I mean my brother and I used to do that during football games that alone playing football physical game so it's just one of those things that's going to happen so it needs nothing and like I said earlier al played it off perfectly. I loved his comments about it and I don't think it's going to be a bad thing at all if anything it'll be a more more positive thing you brian this is nothing just wanted to throw it out there Jeff. I have to to throw one in you mentioned all the scuffles that missed third TAD. You forgot to Chin with a couch that was a big one uh-huh he through other stuff besides the cabs the water cooler on the sidelines against Baltimore. That was a big scuffle so let's go head to our General Manager Kevin Cole One year at a time contracts so this is a bigger deal than most people think. Is that fact or fiction. I think that is absolutely fact because like I said headlands Williams on our standard is a standard show. Show me someone that doesn't want job security and I'll show you a liar and he he said it was just like saying your wife that your fulltime job or just going to take a month by month. You know we'll see how that goes. You see what your wife says. She probably won't be too happy with you. <hes> although I get what he's saying I feel like the steelers with both Tomlin's one year extension and with this news about Colbert. They're at their tipping point. I feel like they're at the point. Now where it's okay something's gotTa give a we gotta start winning some big time games not just regular season games and if not some changes might happen avenue. I think this is a bigger deal than people are making it out to be what he think. Dave okay you said fact right. I WanNa make sure I heard the in the right way. I thought yeah I heard it correctly. I guess that's what I thought you're right. That's why I'm going fiction. I don't think this is a big of a deal. How old is Kevin Colbert what what age did he? I don't know sixty to think A._B._C.. Jeff's like I don't know about that. I'm not sure I have no problem with someone saying saying year to year but here's the thing that people might not understand when he saying year to year. Does that mean that he's GonNa. He's got two years left. Does that mean he's going to play both play both years before he decides again or is he going to come back where next next year when he's got one year left that he'll bend decide if he wants to add one more after that we still don't know <hes>. I don't think it's that big of a deal for right now. Oh and I really have no problem saying hey. I don't want to get locked into a to a long term thing that I don't know if that's what I wanna do now I mean I understand Jeffs analogy gee but I know plenty of people that <hes> that that they go on one year contracts for their job all the time at it's not that and they know that that's what it's going to be and they have no problem problem with it. So that's where that's all. Some people live and that's not how other people live so I'm going to say. I don't think it's that big of a deal yet but let's see how it is next offseason all right Brian your the deciding vote here what he could well. Let me throw a different fact I I before I do that. Fact Brian has always right fact he is sixty two years old touchdown zone okay with that being said all all day all this is a huge deal because he he would go ahead and retire with a five years ago as a general manager. He can't penalty contracting decides. Hey I am done with three years. Let them contract. He can't bill coward did that. Bill Kaur had years left on his contract retire. It wasn't a problem there's a booming thing here tepper and the WHO David Tepper is he is the former steelers minority owner owner who is now the owner in Carolina boost chef through the south. There's a lot of speculation that Kevin Colbert would they had a good relationship with him and wants to join us. That's something to even look for but I agree. We would Jeff Hordley because look you know you once a game and just saying yeah. I'M GONNA take it year by year. See how I'm feeling see how it goes. I don't buy that that because everybody wants to curate job. That's the rebuttal. Here's the rebuttal title while you guys are wrong. Two words Omar Khan he is he's the guy waiting in the wings and and who's to save Colbert doesn't come out and sign a five year contract that he could retire before it's over would con- Really WanNa stick around that long. He's already turned down other jobs. Jobs and other people have contacted him not as many people to contact their at or we've heard about now because maybe the words out nope. He wants to stay in Pittsburgh at this job and then eventually move on on up and it's Kinda like Mike Month check. Everyone thought the world was going to be over. If Mike Months Shack leaves Oh my goodness he can't be the head coach Denver now. Oh my goodness he couldn't go the steelers turned around and within hours had their new offensive line coach. All the players knew it was everybody knew what was going to happen. He stepped right Isn't as bad as what you think is because the next G._M.. Is sitting right there and waiting and he is going to be just as good if not better than Kevin colored okay. I think you're misunderstanding the question the question it's the fact that this is a bigger deal because it's not that he might decide to retire and hanging up. It's because he wants to go. He goes somewhere else. The why would Kevin Colbert care about what what Omar Khan ones that I mean you know in this dog eat dog world. I mean he shouldn't cares hey leave in if he wants to go he doesn't care who's next or who he's keeping around this day. It's Brett farve Aaron Rodgers. I don't even know yeah well. That's exactly that's why I don't think it's I don't think it affects this season and I don't think in the long term that we should be scared of Colbert somewhere else because we're left with nothing saying who's to say. We're not left with something better. That's why I don't think it's as big of a deal now. If Omar Com left this year and then Colbert's going on a year to year then you're trouble the same same way we would have been in trouble with MUNTJAC would stuck around Sarah would have left her. Sorry Surat. I guess I get another dollar would've left and then then Edmon check would have moved on then. We would've lost both of them. That would be a problem. That's what I would panic all right Brian the next factor fiction here we go like forget the hype forget. The hype is not a future feature back for the Pittsburgh steelers Steph fact or fiction. It's really tough without seeing a preseason game. I'm GonNa say though see that's fiction. I feel like he could be <hes> from the tape that I've seen the highlights I've seen from Kentucky. He said school records and I know that's not the big time S._e._C. School that everyone likes to point to you know whether it's Alabama or Auburn Auburn or any of the other ones that you can think of <hes> a heat. He did it against good competitions. I'm going to say that I guess a fiction that he will be able to be a bigger downhill hardness back as a feature back in the national football league what debate you dave. What do you think I oh? I think to agree with you. That would be fiction right. Yes you said fiction. I keep forgetting how the questions are phrased in order to say the right word so I guess I would say it's almost an how if you wanted to get more precise with the question if he's not a feature back that's going to be going into your season to play sixteen games as the as the feature back <hes> if if you're talking about he's not he can't be a feature back. That's GONNA come in because of injury. I mean he might have three or four games next season perhaps there he's the feature back depending on injuries or whatnot so I think he's he has the ability to I've of whether you're talking about going into a season and he's your guy going to be at for Sixteen Games. The answer is not yet but you also never know how I mean that position the one that's probably one of the most susceptible to injury in the league. I don't have any stats on that but don't even ask me to do that because that would take me forever <hes> I'm so I'M GONNA agree with Jeff that I think he's capable of doing it. The question is what we have the opportunity this is definitely extend and the reason being is the fact that I think that your poster child for this team. I think he's going to be a huge star. Jeff made a comment to me yesterday when we were talking offline and he brought up the that entire thousand seventeen at T. J. Watt will be coming. We'll go under his fifth year option at the same Juju contract at the same time. The James Connor needs a contract. You know there's a possibility you can't and Benny Snow Junior might be stepping in sooner rather than later and not because of injury three so. I have a feeling that this is our for this team it'd be. I'm actually he's one of the guys I'm most excited to watch in the preseason because I know he's GonNa get a lot of action. It won't be behind starting off of line at still. He's one of those rookies. You're anxious to see what they can do so why what's a you have one more right Brian Moore and it's the Latin outset that is now the concern concerned with T.. J. Watt Ale thing. I'm sorry there was the a sneeze in the background. That just startled me so I apologize. Let me rephrase that again and linebacker death is now the team's most trying concern with T._J.. Watt Ailey. I'm GONNA say that's fiction because because it's not like he's out long-term <hes> that deb has been a concern from day one but it still not as big a concern for me as tied-in I I feel tight end and I have not heard good things about Asia grumbles of Arin camp who knows what Zach gentry's able to do. It's really just this fans McDonald and that scares me a lot <hes> so even without linebacker Yo Chick Alot Olah Denia. You have some more options there. That is my answer. I'm going to say that it's not a concern too. That'd be fiction. What about you dave? I'M GONNA say that it's also so fiction. It's not a concern. I've really like I thought coming in that Tikolo was a guy I thought you had duprey which was a little more than a guy but not up to the first round hype you had T.. J. Watt and then I was worried after that but if all is really coming on the way he appears to be coming on where he's going to be solid depth there. I'm feeling a little bit better about that. <hes> I I am also so concerned about the tight end depth. I do know that <hes> we've we've seen some conversions from these guys in in seven shots or or plays when they're doing eleven eleven but I just don't know that they're overly consistent so I think jeff is right that that would be more of a concern but I'm before before I thought other than Band T._J.. Was the most important person that you could not lose on this team. I still say that that's important is because how great of a player he is but I'm not as concerned as I might have been a few weeks ago all right Brian Gentlemen. You're both wrong. This is a fact you know why it's a fact because next year when we're watching the draft the number one pick is going to end rusher the outside linebacker. This is a fact because when an Oleh denny rushing the passer or next year in two thousand nineteen eighteen and those are your starters. You know that it's going to be a problem. They have a lack of depth. Look we are in love. Everyone's in love with all ed any. I like him too. You however the only thing we've seen this guy who is Russia seen him do anything else but rush. He hasn't dropped in the coverage. We haven't seen him really against the riot. We haven't seen seen him do anything but we're in love with this guy and we have been cautioning happens that guy is but they're free and maybe Colo- but the pre and maybe a denny but the pre and Sutton's Smith. You don't know it is not this is a huge concern. I understand East what you're staying with tight end and I get it but there for me because if something happens with those guys you have nobody rush in the Asir and you're not gonNA find find somebody that's sitting on their couch in November to go ahead and take over for this is well. You can agree to disagree. That's the beauty of this show and the factor fiction so Brian One last line the another reason that it might not be as much concern is that they they they played most of last year with three and they pulled it off so if it wasn't for that I would be even even more concerned but to try to keep doing that in the future would just not be wise absolutely so at this day. You're you're going against the roles of factor fix dave when you come back in you're going against the the tried and true roles of Jeff Hartmann Brian Davis fiction well okay. I'm sorry I'm new to the. I realized I'll start there you go. I didn't realize what you're that. You're flat up toad. You're wrong that you're not allowed to defend yourself. I'm sorry not at all. I'll give you the last word I'm sorry Brian. I won't do it again. Let's all right to to say from the bickering. We're going to try to do these questions. This is the time the show where we ask you you out in the live chat. Whether you have any questions for the show again you can use as super chat feature to guarantee the your question gets answered so one all the way back Leo had given us two dollars in the live chat. Thank you for that. Put it in the tip jar and he said better season this year. Did you or James Connor Dave. What do you say <hes> a I'm going to go? I think they're both GonNa have a good season but I'm I'll take Brian's answer and I'll say Juju because I'm not sure that Connor will play in all sixteen games all right A. B._A._D.. Say Jews a superstar but for number eighty four Oh aw twenty dollars kick or Ju Ju Eighty Four Oh man all right touchdowns in well to put that behind behind us <hes> snowman put five dollars in the live to the super chat and the tip jar and says what game what week will say. Do you see Mr third fifth having a meltdown Dave. I wish I knew their schedule because I think I could that could help a little bit. I'm going. I WANNA say week six six okay. What about you? Brian Wendy's third and fifth get his first meltdown on the sideline <hes>. I'm thinking I'm GonNa go ahead and say we eleven. He's going to also yeah. He's going to try to behave as much as he possibly can. Completely mounts am really excited to see him next week on H._B._O.. On <hes> on that on hard knocks just because you know he is going to go ahead and <hes> he says anything about the steelers. He says he's he's going to be fine. It's behind them. He's just all positive but when you have a show like that and I know Oh people in Reality T._v.. The producers job in that show is the needle needle needle off camera so when they have those testimonials and yeah they're they're talking about it. They're not going to be able to do it so he's probably GonNa have a meltdown against the steelers on a hard knocks but I think thing with the team. He's GonNa try and it's going to be late but it's going to happen. Okay I will take week. I'll take eight eight right right DAB in the middle of a bye week that or not I. I was GonNa say I picked the bye week. I didn't know I just patted my week in All Right Brian he's pro bowl year. He's not GONNA lose. That's a little much but <hes> I will say that he keeps his job. I'm not saying pro bowl year but I say keeps his job. Okay Bigger X. Factor for the defensive success S. Steven Nelson Devon Bush. This is a good question Dave. What do you think Oh? I'm going to say Stephen Nelson Elsa not because of the player he is but because of the position he plays. I really think that the steelers need to shore up having another cornerback cornerback there Bryan he needs to control the middle. If you have a sense there it's GonNa Change everything so though Devon's Hugh I'm GonNa say Devin Bush as well because then edited linebacker position as the hub of the defense and communication very very important and they're hoping they have a good one in Devon Bush so we'll see how that pans out <hes> it's your Brandon's as Jordan Berry get replaced by Ian Berryman this season Dave. What do you think <hes> you know I won't be it won't be Berryman? If it's somebody it's going to be somebody else. I don't know because I haven't been there but a few reports I saw was it neither one of them's all that consistent right they might be better with the bus have crunch berries in the UH. Somebody named berries. I don't think it's going to be Jordan. Jordan's GONNA be back in Australia McDonnell. I think Jordan ordinary keeps his job. Believe it or not I do <hes> Darren. Ask who do you think will rise up and be the number two wide receiver this year Logo Brian. I versus time Dante Moncrieff. This guy is going to be okay. What are we dave? If I yield to the all-knowing Brian Anthony Davis because his answer is correct using using moncrieff he and Rothlisberger are really clicking so far. It's going to be tough but I think James Washington is going to have a good year as well <hes> Larry. Let's get one more <hes> swifty pool says how do we think <hes> <hes> issues will be returning kicks and punts this year. Let's say who do you think will be the kick primary kick and punt returner this season. We'll go with <hes> Dave. I changed that later too. I think it's going to be Switzer. I don't think that he's going to get bumped off of the roster and I I think that although I don't know that he's great I think he's better than Eli Rogers and I just don't know that they're ready to put a Deontay Johnson back for both it could be the Deontay Johnson does punts and switcher does kick off that that would surprise me either but I don't like I said Edano. The deontay Johnson will get a helmet early season just because of a rookie but he's playing really well so he might so but I'll I'll. If I had to go with elbows. I'll stay stick with switcher. Hey I'm the editor and the verge host of the verge cast revamping the more and more lately coming out episodes twice a week sometimes even at third bonus episode on Tuesdays. I talked to influential people around the world attack like Microsoft founder Bill Gates and other tech execs like founder of lime scooters the C._E._o.. 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I think that they have back there and we'll put it that way. Now Jerry Cherry vans as Washington better pick it up. I hear he's dropping everything right now. It's funny because you have people that are at practice in there watching him in Washington my job pass then on twitter he he might catch a big passed on the sideline then everyone's tweeting about it <hes> and so unless you're there personally it's tough to gauge who's doing well and who's not doing well. <hes> I heard good things about James Washington so far and training camp boat loan. I'm sure there's been mistakes made but I'm sure that everyone has made mistakes so far in camp. Okay Gay guys <hes> either or we do in one this week Davey Evelyn. Yes I do all right well. Let's fire away. Let's finish the finish this show strong okay okay. I wanted to do this last week but we needed to have three people to do it because you guys are actually going to help me out with with what our choices are and that is based on what happened last week. Take something very important to <hes> to to the Pittsburgh area is when the first trailer of won't you be my neighbor was released for the new <hes> Mister Rogers movie starring Tom Hanks my wife said to me Tom Hanks is there anything. Is there any row he can't play and I got to think about that. I WANNA movie role. That would be realistic like please. Don't say <hes> Scarlett O'Hara or Black Panther or anything like that but I WANNA realistic movie role from one of you from each. You guys that you think Tom Hanks would not be able what to do and see if anyone else can get better. Wow is there to say like okay. <hes> let me get this correct. Suffice it you know. I don't think Tom Hanks would play a very good John. Maclean die hard that would be an example that would be an example because I don't think he played very good John Maclean in die hard Tanaka. Tell Me Plaza in taking down you know probably the worst terrorist at our country had seen to that day so yes. We'll have one thing Ryan. Ryan has a good one. He said Terminator Yeah. I was GONNA say one more thing it could be. I was thinking a movie role. That's what I was thinking but I don't want to inhibit you too much. It could be like right now. He's playing an actual character that they're doing a movie on if there was a character that you thought they should do a movie about Tom Hanks would not be right for it <hes> at any point of his career. Even if it was young Thomas she got one Brian. Yeah I really couldn't see Tom Hanks's Ghalem from count in my letter. Actually I agree with that. Okay let me give you one Joe Patchy Goodfellas or de Niro in Goodfellas any deniro role I do I would not see would not see Tom. Hanks plan written made the Falcons he can pull that off. Yeah like I even Christmas in dumb and dumber but I'm like areas is young so I'm going with Rocky Balboa so the best one thank you let the live chat knew that so but I was just thinking of that. What's a good role that I don't know the Tom Hanks could pull off so thank you guys for humoring me with that was no it's not I won't you be my neighbor? I can't wait real quick and I do not WanNa see Tom Hanks and for no I we'll just say that right now. It's like we're ready for Brian's question canal. You know what I I saw. How I look? I look sleepy. I wake up when I think about stuff like that that you know I'm just saying you're all I mean the great I mean I move yeah okay. Let's I don't want to prolong this conversation. That's my role Joe Issa. I just got I just got the Batum o'chee from I guess she's going to take money from me in the live chat <hes> so I have one and it has a lot up to do with <hes> what Dave had the stay Mr Rogers icon now. We're this week how Heinz field the oldest probably going to be no longer in two thousand twenty one as far as the naming rights. I was brought up on the hangover. A great name would be of course it would be Fred Rogers stadium so that Rogers fee and you could call the neighbor hood. Let's play in the neighborhood or would you rather have any wooden mark as the name of the stadium. Can I say neither. This booth. Awful beats nothing e._M._c.. Doesn't I'd rather call <unk> U._P._S.. Mister Rogers neighborhood field or whatever he suggested. That's if we get enough to live chat it could be B._T._C.. Field uh-huh Felicia keeps we might we might get that. I have nothing against Mr Rogers. I just don't want his his name on a Code Art Rooney do go with the <hes> you know Paul Brown Stadium The Art Rooney Stadium and then you have that's cool. I would love it but for either or oh. It's easy for that either or it's the neighborhood. I think that would be fun. You know going down to Rogers field. We're heading down to the neighborhood. Hould I like that one for that. I just honestly there. There's too much money involved to name a stadium. That's like like when <hes> wasn't watched to Jack. Kente Cook Basically paid to build the stadium and so they named it after him and then they sold the rights to the name and that's why it's Fedex field feel so the guy even paid for the stadium they wouldn't even name it after because they wanted more money for the name so <hes> as much as that would be great Jeff. If I think you're wrong the neighborhood would be great nothing again. I Dunno hines third and Fifth Stadium is what we got the grassy a really sorry I mean I like. I like the iron coming up but does someone mentioned it and I lost it on the chat just W._c.. It was really funny. I play off of W._C.. Fields I thought that was not sure who threw that in but okay <hes> I don't have I don't have any or this week I I was thinking of one when I was getting ready to sitdown skipped the whole Youtube thing <hes> threw me through loop so first and foremost let me apologize to anyone that might have been waiting in the wings the waiting for a youtube video alive. I knew that the Google hangouts that we have been using was going to be retired on August I. I didn't know that the new new youtube software is not going to allow for other people to join you as a host so I had to use this third party. It seems to be working fine. We've

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The Steelers Post-Game Show, Part 2: Ben is back as the Steelers the Giants 26-16

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The Steelers Post-Game Show, Part 2: Ben is back as the Steelers the Giants 26-16

"All Right Pittsburgh Steeler Fans Jeff Hartman Co editor behind the steel curtain DOT com here back for the second half of the post game show the steelers beat the giants twenty six to sixteen. I'm joined with co editor Dave Scofield in the P. P. podcast producer Brian Anthony Davis. We're talking value, just it all the offense of grades. If you're just checking our part to make sure you go back and check one, we gave you out all the greats of the offense. Let's go to the defense guys. I was super impressed with the defense. If you think about the situational stuff that happened, you had the steelers come out, they get off the field they punt want the Anti Johnson fumbles and you're thinking, oh my gosh, here goes saquon. Barkley diving into the end zone for a touchdown but no, they hold onto a field goal but let's do this the right way. Let's break this down. We'll start with some individual players, Ashley. Let's do it this way. Dave will start with you because it's way the rotation we've been doing which defensive player stood out to you. Today we'll talk about the stat line and then we'll. We'll go over the grades for that player who stood out to you. Okay. Well, I, of course, I WANNA claim my ex factor. Of, Vince Williams, who seemed to be all over the run? That's Brian's guy that's Brian's guy. But another one who I like to look at guys and not just here all the talk. You know your ex fat or your from from the preview. Devon Bush had a great game but you know who really surprised me. was, Tyson Allah who just right was wreaking havoc in the run game in the middle of that line. Yes. People were talking about all know John Hargrave all Allah just went. I mean he was he was moving the line of scrimmage in the steelers favor. That's what you want from your guys front both on offense and defense move the. Line of scrimmage in your favor and he was just on run plays just moving it back. It wasn't just him but. Because they were all moving together. So that was kind of stood out against. Let let's go over to the stat lines to these guys events Williams finishes with five tackles four solo tackles one sack three tackles for loss and a quarterback hit Tyson who you mentioned had four total tackles three of them. So low zero sacks two tackles for loss in one quarterback hit you were right those players predominant and so if I'm given, what do you give them for grades since you brought him up Oh, anyone I bring up I'm giving I'm giving. As A. Man. Because right. Brian Good and China in on that those guys and then also who your players you wanNA focus on defense. Well I mean, Dave mentioned half of the unit there. I bet you three guys come on but I thought that we would just do one and like ever everyone picked good ones. So we gotta scrape at the bottom of the barrel and say, John I, thought Terrell elements was awesome now. Because I didn't I he was the weakling tonight and but again led the team in tackles. He had nine total tackles. But I really thought he was awful. Tonight but the guy I want to talk about here is it's Bud was. As Great. As everybody was you can give as to all those is the Dave mentioned. Bush was Bush seems like he made that second level jump Alalu, a race hargrave going away and Vidi. VICI. He is Vince. Williams and he controls that run game when you when you ever think about a guy like Saquon Barkley. Who is Dominant and amazing I. Have Never Seen Him shut down like that and I've been watching him for a lot of years not just with the giants but with Penn State. But I'm thinking. But Duprey, Alvin was all over the place he when cam hayward's getting an interception. It's bud that's forcing it buds like chasing this guy all over the place Dana Jones. He was just all over. He was omnipotent. He was like a starbucks in. New York. City. On every single lock. He's there. You're all over that field. You saw number forty, eight it it was a fantastic performance I'm even thinking that he's the MVP of this game if this was the super bowl and you had to put. Put an MVP on it. I know Juju had two touchdowns ban. It was Alvin Budhu DuPrey, that led this team to victory tonight. All right. So let's look at depre- stat line. He had four total tackles three solo two tackles for loss one pass defense in one quarterback head no credits acts. But like you said, he was all over the field I I think that it's easy to. I before I, get to my player how what are the odds that we would be talking about a game or the steelers had two interceptions in those interceptions were accounted for by T. J. Watt in cameron, heyward, the to. Think about that like what are the odds that that's out? Interception for campaign word and my Gosh was in an awkward looking thing. My wife was down here watch. Was He doing back there? Well genius. Choose. Trail in the PLANO game which. It the next thing you know the balls up near he jumps like. I I don't know what he's eighty Tax. You you. You saw that he was not the only steeler around bad. Ever. Guys basically like we better give him space because if anyone of US breathes on him, he's. On this ball. So although man like he looked like the athlete, he was the. Man That's that's Cam. That's. Tanks thank goodness. A got called a touchback because they would have been on the one inch line and that would have been tough but they called it. You could see it never has come the whole way out passed and it never came all the way up. Okay. So for me, I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. Talk about a guide no one else brought up I think. Dave SORTA did when he mentioned the entire events but Devin Bush so anytime, saquon Barkley was out on the field and he was coming out of the backfield on a passing route. Those he got loose a couple times. Devon. Bush was in his back pocket all game seven total tackles five solo but I was just impressed with the way the Bush was moving on the field he was. He made the progression that you would expect from a second-year player. He. was flowing to the ball speed athleticism be inside of the defense. Look just fine. Thanks in large parts of Devon Bush Sean Manahan bring puts two bucks in the jar has a question where was Minka we did not hear his name called at all in let's look make fitzpatrick was credited with two tackles too. So that's it no other stat line for him another player who had a pretty quiet day with stefan onto one little tackle he has. So let's have a snack attack over loss and a quarterback head a lot of people in the live chat were down on Steven Nelson. He gave up some big plays including touchdown Joe Haden. The first touchdown never should have happened because that was a really really bad defensive passer call my opinion on Hayden, but let's grade the secondary Brian said the trail edmonds was awful earlier. I said that a lot of people were down on Nelson and Hayden. Minka Fitzpatrick was pretty much nonexistent in this game. So if we're talking about how great the front seven was in stopping saquon Barkley and putting pressure on Jones. Had Great. The Secondary Dave go head. It's so tough because if it wasn't for weeks three through seventeen last season, you would think that they did just fine. It was just how dominant that secondary was through. So much of two thousand nineteen has raised the expectations to where you really only want to give them. Probably, you know maybe maybe a C based on based on the on the stats gave up like I did not expect Daniel Jones to throw for two touchdowns and be pushing three hundred yards. I did not and and I know some of them were you know some of it were dumped off and things like that but they they gave up too many. Too, many big plays I mean like, for example slayton one or sorry forty one yard reception. Barkley. Had A thirty eight yard reception and you know and they gave up one hundred yards receiver. Too late with his two touchdowns. So that's something that I wasn't used to see him from this from this secondary. So maybe I'm being bit too harsh but I, I had a lot more expectations for. What you Brian Gray was, you give them I've got to give him a C minus but I don't think he needs to worry just yet now. And they did get. Some people are saying, they did get a lot of yards on that last drive when they were just basically you know prevent defense, get your yards, take time off the clock but. That that that first touchdown and did not look good. Anything about the they come out no huddle. I don't think anyone really expected that. The, come out in the hurry up I think the caught him off guard a little bit early in the game but. Like you said Brian, this is a preseason game and there's a lot of communication in the back half I'm going to give him a B minus give him the benefit of the doubt they perform like that again. Gary Grades in good under the sea. But ultimately, that's what I did. Now my favorite part of the show. Special teams talking about diggers. So you earlier in the show someone said, should we be worried about Chris Boswell? We brought up Dustin Colquitt. Let's talk about cold but he had four punts for one hundred, eighty, three, yards average forty, five, point eight I'll take that inside the twenty one hit along fifty nine Chris Boswell is two for two field goals along forty one, but two for three with extra points, guys. Any concern there with the special teams units whether it was Colquitt. Folding whether it was Boswell's accuracy. Dave. What do you think? I'm not concerned moving forward because I think Boswell shook it off pretty well in never wanted missing extra point that was his I missed extra point sense week thirteen of. The two, thousand season against the chargers. So he had a pretty good street going on I. Mean he was one of only a couple of kickers at didn't miss any last year but there were a lot of kicks this this week. Lots of kicks messed. So to to just miss the one any and I mean, he clanked it, it's not like he completely shanked. It wasn't a close I mean. For four more inches and that's going to, and that's going to hit the upright and go through so but you don't WanNa flirt with that much I don't think he'll it bother him and like you say new holder chalk it up to that and say move onto the next week. Brian thoughts on the kickers. Dave hit the nail on the head. I really don't think that there's much of a problem like you said earlier that you were more concerned about you know kicking out of bounds I. that's probably the one play that I missed because I was setting up some BPS's stuff and I was looking down at my computer and I missed the. Missed the kick out of bounds but. I'm really not concerned about the kicking game. Loved Colquitt I poke would definitely proved to be an upgrade and He was pretty good. Boswell I mean. I had no fear when he was lining up for any of those field goals so I'm not too concerned. Ray Ray McLeod is on the distance. Oh, my goodness I mean I thought he was gone. He was so close I don't know I'd have to look I'd love to watch play again to see if he's read the the blocker. Wrong. But it looked like he was just one player away and he was gone he was gone so. That's something that's do offensive. Never really seen is a return man with actual threat of taking back I mean a kickoff we know Deontay took when back on a punt return but ultimately is kick off. So Sean. To Yell Rae Ray Ray. Sean Manon Delo tiptoe thank you very much. He gave him an F.. And half are. You go ahead we used to live chat when we when we went in between. A super chat we went in between shows who it was from Kathy you can't go back to it. It's already gone. It was for two dollars a tip jar. Thank you Kathy and she wanted to know if the giants looked better than what we expected. I, I'm GonNa say the Daniel Jones better than expected they look at everything. I. Thought they were GonNa do Great. They couldn't do save more for you won't read this ain't just listen to this saquon Barkley I mean we're talking about Saquon Barkley fifteen carries for six yards. Six yards and had a seven yard rush I mean think about that. That seven yard rush was a pass, but he threw it backwards. Or else. Positive fifteen carries for six yards. This is like that. That's some early two thousand and stuff right there. That's that type of run stopping Brian. Hey I drafted. Snow draft why that happened he was the only giant. Fan because you have to play, you can't play hundred lineup. All one team headed to have someone. So I did him you had to do. and. I love the fact that I lost my one league because of Barclay and that's that's my policy. Don't care if I win two hundred bucks at the end of the year. All I care about is spending two thousand dollars on steeler memorabilia when they win the super bowl so I don't care. About losing a fantasy game when one guy on my team is playing my real team the Pittsburgh steelers. Barkley did not look good but the answer Kathy's question. If you're a giants fan, you've gotta be excited about one. Daniel Jones. But you've got a real coach and you've got a real offensive coordinator who was the head coach for a long time in this league as well and you have you have a foundation for what could be really good. So I mean they're not going to a this doesn't seem to be a playoff team the season but Barclays. Going to be down for long he's not gonNA, have he ran into. A very good. Run defense team and I can't wait to see the rankings as far as run defense because the steelers are probably going to be. Ranked number one or number two I don't know what everybody else did but they're. As far as rushing defense, they're gonNA be up there for what they did. This is a good run stopping team. I want I want to preface saquon Barkley is great. Then offensive line leaves a lot to be desired. We'll just put it that way shield ninety one put five dollars in the tip jars his favorite play the night love Chase Klay Pools Toe tap dance at discipline intelligence we've been hearing about from camp also big props to Chase Klay, board the very end on that little jet sweep where where he got the first down yardage necessary stays inbounds and I know on twitter I I said great play heads up play and they said, well, it really didn't matter now I get it but at the same time it's rookie. Well, but it's a rookie in his very first game very first time getting a hand off and he's running on the outside like you said, he could have tried to make cut and go any. Push amounts and he goes down I. thought it was a heads up play. I've loved it. I thought it was great. That's intelligence. Yes. Team play he didn't care about his own stats. 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To be sure you don't miss a single episode. John Manahan puts two dollars in the tip versus three bed plays deontay fumble the out of bounds kick in the midst extra point yet those were all three bad ones. No doubt about that. Leo See puts nine, Ninety, nine in the Thank you very much for that. He said be a barry white great to see. deontay get so much action will be very interesting to see Daniel Jones. Again, against the rest of the League are pass rush challenged him on every play a DNA was cloyne and he was. It was you could well ahead know the steelers were were. You could tell they were keying on. SAQUON. Barkley I mean they were just going after him. That's why he had the rushing stats to the ad I feel that the giants were completely. Focused on T. J. Watt on defense. They just didn't want watch to kill them and he still may degrade interception. You know. So holding calls, how is that possible? He was getting held a whole day. They didn't call holding the entire game on either team. What was the last time you watched NFL game in there were zero holding calls. I don't think I've ever seen that. At least not in the past happy era we're in right now I gotta make a comment real quick about that last comment about Barry White bad and Deontay. Getting some action. That's something you hear all the time I don't know if you plan that when he put that output Barry White and getting some action that's always in the same sense. All right. Let's Lino. This is all been sunshine and rainbows far but there was some things that we had to not like. Okay Let's talk a little bit about things that we thought were better than it could be better We address some of them but overall guys, Wilburton things. Awesome. Takeaways with Bryant here. What some takeaways year like you know what is a good win where the WanNa know? It's easier to correct after victory but my gosh, this really is bad. What is that for you? Brian? I was not impressed with the offensive line. For the part lot of people have been telling me that they're worried about big al.. I credited game. There was there was the first time that wasn't a sack but when Ben got the ball off, there was a big Al pushed all the way back in the womb. There are a couple of times and big AL gave up another sack to there's there are some things that really concerned me about him. The alot snap from pouncey there. You know now that you have possibly two guys injured on offensive line that scared me even more. Yeah the offensive line was was tough. I'm looking at the overall stats here. They the steelers rushed for one forty, one through for two eight. thirty two passes to thirty runs. Oh my gosh, that's close as close to balance. I don't think you're GONNA get any closer to that for steelers only three penalties for this dealers for twenty one yards. I see your concern i. definitely do Brian I. Dave. You can chime in on that and you can go ahead and go with something else that bothers you there something else that it's still bothered me and you guys are going to hear me go a little bit of a rant I didn't run the one yet doubt I know I. Still upset and I'm not letting go. I'm I'm I am upset with the steelers with with their coaching staff and with. Stuff. I'm extremely disappointed with the steelers be reporters who failed to even bring up the issue because they don't. They don't inform themselves about the rules but why in the world are you playing with forty seven players when you're allowed to play with forty eight? To crap with hires. Active and no one elevated from the practice squad they up the number of players you can dress for a game you're paying. These is anyway even the stand street clothes. Why is he there Anthony Mcfarland Ugg three or what are those guys? They had another spot to fill and they put six guys inactive when you only need five? So we kept kept waiting. Did they elevate someone from the practice squad? We didn't realize you know what's going on. No they played with forty seven guys when you don't need to I mean was it just an oversight? What were are they doing and why in the world was nobody asking about this and getting report on this? This is not brought up tomorrow. I think the whole beat reporter circuit needs to be fired because do your job know what they're supposed to be doing and ask the question that needs to be asked why are you playing a man down the whole game? Wow all right. Before I. Get more mad. Well. Dave dozen swear much. So what With him saying what the crap which advocates worry. Dave that's that's him sticking up a middle finger in. And just. A whole lot of. Yeoh dollar signs and question marks and exclamation points there. So wow. That sounds like Keith Butler, an interview bag gum. Then we gotta go get their bag dumb football. It's funny when you see a transcript of key butlers like press conferences, they actually do right in like Dag, nab it and understanding for like elmer fudd reference but anyways so dave brings up the. Inactive list. It's something. About because the steelers win, you're happy with all that. But then I just get back. I mean, and why are they not answering the question? What did it? No coach Tomlin said in a past interviews this past week that yeah, they're going to give extra players. Why would you not use them and then they didn't use it I don't understand. Well with the offensive line, the way it is they probably will be used that. In the coming games but something that I was upset about and this is a need your reaction thing and I talked about the offense play calling a little bit earlier but for me. It was just ball security I can't stand fumbles and interceptions happen. You're trying to force a ball and but for some reason, I, cannot stand fumbles whether his deontay Johnson's muffing the Pont first-quarter whether it's Benny Snell who really had a chance to cap off a super impressive performance and then you have to market with that stupid fumble on the sideline. Good for UGG issues, driving a heads up playing, getting the getting the football getting loose ball amongst a sea of blue. But still that really fear infuriates me it's something that this us have always struggled with but still we're going to have to deal with. Let's go through some super chats here just a fan foot, four, ninety, nine, the tip jars, jujubes fumble recovery, which I just mentioned monumental for the final drive. Yes. For as a very important play going through another another one here. Case in right he says five dollars. That's the spot Ben Saving for Switz-. I. I don't know. We'll see if switzer maybe gets a call with You know I don't know what they're going to do with the injury situation. If they I don't even know if he's eligible to be a veteran on the practice squad if he would will see, we shall see. but guys, fifty, four minutes in we have five minutes left. Closing, thoughts on the game itself this team moving forward they now prepare for the Denver broncos come to Heinz field and we to know fans, but they will be back at home. Brian what are your thoughts on this this team in this game wrap it up. This team is prepared for the long haul. There's going to be some rough times, but I still think this is an eleven and five team I love what I saw the leadership of Ben Rothlisberger but I love more than anything Juju. Smith Schuster, the with the zest that he was playing with with a fire with the intensity. He felt like it felt like watching a man out to prove something and I thought he proved something tonight on offense two touchdowns. Fantastic. You mentioned the fumble recovery, but it seemed like if this is the super bowl and it's a final drive like you had in two, thousand, eight and San Antonio homes, it seems like Juju Smith. Schuster could be that guy to leave you on that drive all the way down at the ten yard line to victory with thirty eight seconds left in the game. So juice officials. Stepped up tonight and I think he is a lot closer to the number one wide receiver that everybody is asking for. Dave Scofield? Yeah I'm that's a great answer for Bryan. So I'll go somewhere else. Benny now getting the chance going over one hundred. You know would have liked the. Touchdown. Snuck it in there did. Offer that? But. It was just it was great to see him run the way he did and to run. In you know up the middle and on the edge you know you know not not not necessarily stretch play you know what I mean. Just to just to see the to come in and make the most of it and come back after the fumble. If lost that fumble who knows how we would responded but Your job. Benny. My final thoughts actually not even about the steelers is about the national football league. There are a lot of people some that are in the live chat right now. that. said that this was never going to happen. That, there's no way the NFL football general whatever be played in twenty twenty or maybe for the foreseeable future and I'm not saying I told you so or anything like that I'm just saying. I'm happy to this is back there give it means there's no fans in the seats for a few months or a month or a few weeks. So be it but my gosh was this great distraction. And this Sunday was a great distraction and so I hope that fans and they're still some skeptical out skeptics out there a while. You know once once they are playing each other and their traveling in. Yeah there's risk involved. We know this but at the same time, I'm going to take it all in for as long as I can. No matter what because I love this team I, love this game I love the National Football League and I love this being able to be on these post game shows talk talking football I wouldn't want to lose this for anything. So Kudos to the National Football League for the protocols they put in place. Got It done. They are back at least for the foreseeable future we should all just celebrate in just say you know what? This was awesome for the first time in a long time. Something felt normal. They were no fans I know in the fake the fake crowd noise was just awful that was so annoying. I'd rather hear the players talking on the sideline yelling than I would fake grab his, but I digress that's my little. rant ended up Brian before we call it a show why don't you let listeners out there know what's coming up on our podcast side because this is a weird week. This is a Monday night at what's going to be happening Tuesday for the wrestling the well something that's happening right now if you go to the podcast platform, you could check out Michael Back who put together a Mike Tomlin press conference post game press conference recap it's already on the. podcast platform anywhere that you download your podcast it's going to be there SA- check that out. It's probably about a I eight minutes show, but it's going to wrap up everything that Mike Tomlin said in. Give you a little bit. Especially if you missed that show so. I got. Oh. My. Gosh. See, cavs, oh, excellent puts four, nine, nine. The digits is Brian Sounds like frank the tank when he shot himself in the neck tranquilizer gun in all schools is what he's talking to. Gosh I. Are you sure it's not my my Room I. DON'T KNOW BUT AS UNION Wow I gotTA reevaluated. Drink some lemon. Listen to this Brian and you'll you'll be like it got better better as the show and on early on I. was like Man Brian gathered like frogs in his throat he needs like clears throat. On your bike it's gotta be. Well. We'll have to take a look at that again, but he's Wild Yeah because Even got. Buffalo Bill from Buffalo Bill from. People talking about. Oh goodness. Gracious. So checkout. Let's ride. Excuse me not. Let's ride the live Mike Tomorrow as well. That's going to be another basically postgame check. Let's. Say Friday which have been now. An definitely. There are so many options I gotTa tell you. It's so nice to see a lot of these names back for the first time December as well. But and if you are back for the first time, check out that podcast platform because where you were just getting about seven eight shows a week. Now you're getting in the twenties it's morning noon and night there's new stuff from behind the curtain dot com. Behind the curtain radio, it's there. 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Steelers 1-on-1: 5 Steelers to watch in Preseason Week 2 vs. the Chiefs

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Steelers 1-on-1: 5 Steelers to watch in Preseason Week 2 vs. the Chiefs

"Pittsburgh steeler fans what's going on this jeff harvest editor of behind the steel curtain dot com here ready for another episode of the steelers one on one and no burning question this week bring my good friend chris carter from decay pittsburgh sports as always to talk about the pittsburgh steelers. We are very grateful chris. You're able to come on because because he is there. He is on the scene. He's in the press box to unique aspect a unique angle for us it behind the steel curse. How's it going this evening doing great jeff jeff doing great. Just kinda glad camps almost over because this heat gets to be a lot yes. It's very humid very hot. I bet that the players are grateful grateful to be leaving saint vincent college here in a couple of days. Today was their last padded practice. Today's wednesday with this is being recorded tomorrow. They'll have a non padded practice before they call it a camp and they moved back to pittsburgh so my first question for you. Chris is if you were to just sum up this training camp. Would it be like have you been impressed. Heavy been just kind of <hes>. It's kinda same old same old you this. Is your second camp there correct or is this your third <hes>. I was more comfortable. This is my breath okay. I my first year on this on this. What i joined pittsburgh sports <hes> right after training minicamp ended <hes> so this will be my third year at camp. It's <hes> news comparatively. It's all to other kant's kant's. I've been to <hes> <hes> this has been a very controlled and they have the the the. I'd say nonsense. Everybody do not do any other stories cutting the the unfortunate passing of coach darryl drake <hes> but that's something you can't control <hes> and that's just a very sad thing but none of the players have done or said anything. That's been ridiculous. There's been no talk from the national media about anything. That's not about football the steelers this was about getting back to football. Not you know keep keeping keeping away the noise about other topics and just focusing on getting better which i really think that they've done done that a lot with several young players miss training camp well. It's good to hear and let's talk quickly and i ended it other shows on our platform of talked about it and lance and i kind of broke the news to a lot of people on sunday when coach coach joe drake passed away <hes> what is the vibe on a camp right now because we know that tuesday's practice was very sullen in rain and and we all saw the pictures and kudos to <hes> matt sunday from decay pittsburgh sports the article he wrote the images he took were just that was one of the best pieces of journalism eliza. Even if it was just photo journalism i've read in a really long time <hes> but you know now that <hes> the day is passed and they've said their good byes so to speak what's kind of divide on campus as the steelers radio break camp and get ready for week two in the preseason still a somber note. <hes> today was the first day of the players actually talked about this situation. <hes> villa villa wave at a very powerful video that that's going around the internet right now. <hes> a lot of the players were opening up to the writers. There's about just things that they've been going through and processing steelers brought in grief counselors to help them process everything but you know it's they. They know they have to get back to business but it's it's. They still know that. It's just next to impossible to do that. A carry on like things always were <hes> narration romans come along the guy that they hired to a receivers coach he immediately has been making a steady impact and making comments and helping helping the receiver lever out but most definitely they're going tom and said they're going to be doing some things for coach drake <hes> and to honor him throughout the season. I i think that's kind of where they're kinda. Put with players kind of putting their emphasis moving forward they know at some point they'll be with a show out for the coach that they love and <hes> and and so that but they know that before they get there they gotta keep doing and getting doing what they gotta do to be ready for the next day and i think that they're they're kind of. They're kind of antsy to get get out and show people what what they're about against the chiefs yeah i. I'm hoping that you know this is tough and anyone that's ever coached or played on a team. Gene has had something tragic happen on never forget. It was one of my first you seasons as a head coach in highschool one of my players. His sister was killed in a car accident and she was a junior in high school and it was unbelievably traumatic for the community and for him and it's funny how teams respond onto this trauma you either rise up and you want to be there and you wanna play better or you kind of just fall into a hole <hes> from just based on how you've seen the players interact with each other now interact with the media today also with how they are on the practice field. Get a vibe for how this team is trending. Do you think they're going to try to rise up and play a four coach drake or d._c. This kind of being a slump that they're gonna have to get through hopefully before week. One of the regular season not think the rides up tuesday drew up his doc or time. Everyone was kind of support each other. They've had to talk to each other and recognize that the best way to honor coach drake forward forward and john candy and accomplish the goals that they set out with coach drake moving forward into this season i think they're going to be this is already a resilient group because this is a group coming off a year that they didn't. They didn't make the playoffs that everyone said that they're not gonna do anything right because as of tonio being gone lady on being gone and all sorts of is that people have ms team and i think a lot of the guy they have a lot of <unk> gonna take all that lying down there show people that they've eventually had a really strong practice today. <hes> james washed it continues to impress people. I think there's a lot of really good young ups died and that should not be understated when people are looking at and predicting how they're going to do this year okay. Let's leave the emotional stuff thaddeus. Let's get straight to football. I have warm position. I wanna ask you about because i value your opinion in how you view the game backup quarterback. I've i've been reading your tweets. You're probably the most informative of all the bi writers that are there. You're putting everything out there. I really appreciate that but it just seems like recently in today's a perfect example of the two minutes is mason rudolph getting the same opportunities as joshua dobbs. There is joshua dobbs the number two guy until he gets unseated by somebody. Dobbs is still the official number two guy but there are just certain days where rudolph gets more and then dobbs will get more and then a key aid office but it often just flips on who had the most rams the last time <hes> but for example <hes> the next time on the steelers go out and ben rothlisberger doesn't start quarterback in preseason. I i can see mason rudolph running with the first team in dobbs getting to run with the second team just a flip uh flop and they want to evaluate wait how matchups work with these guys the gold number two quarterback <hes>. I think he's going to be the guy right now. That kind of holds title guy. I think is the long the long game quarterback they want to become the obvious one to become the air but i stop growing to do <hes> he played well but that was in the middle of struggling training camp especially this past week the first week he was looking to just jobs but then after the friday nights light friday and then we forward game and i can tell you well again <hes> and <hes> not the josh really nice camp sutton but it's a quarterback battle because they haven't proved but neither external on ready to be the number two quarterback and nwsafe this team. If ben goes down for a game or two okay all right. Let's get let's get right to it. Let's get to some players. You're excited to watch this week in week two <hes> that would be you know anybody. It could be if you think starters gonna play backups to who's a player. You're looking forward to seeing this this week right now. I'm looking at especially the inside linebacker battle but <hes> i wrote about a ulysses over an rob league sports and one thing that i've noticed that if you member everyone over he had to get one and a half sacks afford stuff monto point could also look very studying leading the middle of the field. He had to ask break up. He had a forceful. There's a lot right now. I wanna see who stepped on. I also wanna see james. Washington continued to tribute on on on does but i have the benefit really sieber room right now. You got you know number one team today and was just a so lucky never lighting it up with ben rocket <hes> and then the o._t. Johnson's back and healthy he was and a. and the four of those guys as washington ju- moncrieff and johnson an attack. That's gonna be very interesting. I was in especially moncrieff especially johnson and see more washington but <hes> the joe out especially with the backup quarterbacks. You're you're you might people a._b. Saying oh wait a second. Is it back now. They'll say i beckon and how they produce but on offense is the key finding ways to move the ball all with one guy most of the time without having to rely. I honest star playmaker but rice and getting. That's the ticket here and they got other guys to do that. Big a i <hes> one in lane boundary you should audrey off bumps and bruises of camp but especially some of these young guys that still have to prove themselves well crazy. Your condition is kind of spotty and we apologize. There's a listeners but <hes> i really do. Thank you for your time. <hes> why don't you tell us a little bit about what you're doing. <hes> both for lockdown steelers podcasts as well as history for awesome for you. Get let me let you get out of here. Thanks tony surreal unlocked on steelers. You can find on any other podcast you work at the n._f._l. Pittsburgh sports the dot com tom where right now i'm the i'm in down cars clashing with xs and os. I talked about doing wrong. During during season. Rating players will be going over between those to be a guest on burton with you is there. It's definitely an honor to be able to keep doing this and for the <hes> about but the sport that everyone people that watch this great content love all right chris. Thanks for your time. We'll be talking soon and go enjoy the rest of the camp and multiple. We'll be in touch. Hey hey spencer hall. I'm holly anderson. I'm ryan nanny. I'm jason kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast it says in the script open to riff on what that means and basically what i mean is it's all spoiled every tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle elsewhere we also do college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want take college football exactly seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app okay folks that was <hes> chris from pittsburgh sports. We do appreciate him taking the time. I do apologize for his quiz audio quality his visual he was in a vehicle obviously <hes> in he is in latrobe as we speak. I'm not sure if the internet connection there wherever he was does but still <hes>. I really do thank him for <hes> trying his best to do to. He was used to be in pittsburgh. He decided to stay in latrobe. He's at at shark easy. If you've ever been to latrobe said my thomas had just walked in the door the he was trying to get back in there as quick as possible. I wanted to let him go <hes> so we do appreciate him <hes> <hes> in his time at this time. I wanna talk about some of the players that i'm looking forward to seeing this saturday night when kinsey cheese come to heinz field and if you're in the live chat i wanna know who you are looking. Maybe who you're looking for to see list then outs one. Two three four five sees as me however many there is for you. Let's just go on the assumption though that ben rothlisberger is not going to <hes> play. I doubt oh he does. I'd be shocked if he does tomorrow. Thursday mike tomlin has a press conference at eleven thirty around there and he'll probably say who's who's in who's out to my guess is that ben rothlisberger is not gonna play. My my guess is that <hes> markey's pouncey is not going to play my my guess is that joe hayden is not going to play or sean. Davis is not going to play but let's talk about who i am looking forward to seeing. I asked chris about the backup quarterback act battle because i'm so intrigued by that in so many different ways and i really shouldn't be to be quite honest with you. I shouldn't be intrigued. He did all because we're talking about. Backup quarterbacks in this is something that lance williams said a long time ago and that was <hes> if you were your main camp battles are backups loves then you have a pretty good roster and that's what the steelers have i mean. There's only a couple of spots. People always talk about right tackle. That job is done one period. That job is done so for me. I just think it's something that <hes> and by the way if you're watching live t._v. List out he yoga for seeing being all throwing up on the screen and everyone can check them out if they're watching live on youtube and a stream and they don't see it so <hes> there. You see awesome stuff. Nineteen eighty-three does a great year by the way i was born <music>. You're he's deonte johnson moncrieff route off and bush. We appreciate that so. Who am i looking forward to see. I'm looking forward to seeing who stars quarterback back. That's crazy see on the screen. He's at route off number one and then he has hodges. I don't think hobbs is gonna see more time than he did in week one and gentry who he has is fourth on his list missed practice today he end devon bush are actually believe it or not. They were being evaluated for something thing. I hope it's not any injury. It's gonna linger not that. Devon bush has to worry about his job but you just hope for someone like zach gentry. He needs every single repetition that he can get. He caught that touchdown nice little running catch in week one you hope he can kind of compound that and see what's going on syria thomas white he's amazing james washington in a benny smell. That's a great guy to pick up because for me. I gave any snow a losers greater. My winners and losers column and i got ripped for it. People said all my gosh. How are you going to put him in. I just didn't think he looks explosive everything he was labeled to be. I didn't see it period and he didn't burst his vision. Wasn't that great so i backed myself off the ledge a little bit and said i will give him another chance. I will see what he looks like. What the better offensive of line i'm excited to see beng snell and hopefully he proved me wrong. I get it brookies are gonna struggle. Their first preseason game just has just lane. He looks awful so you wanna season bounced back performance here. Slip is a contributor. He says he wants his devon. Hodges spencer chook chook if he just talked about lane and route off his his fifth so again. Send me your <hes> semyon in live chat. You think is going to be your top four five. Whatever and we'll talk about it. Jared the devil says rudolph one bush two snell three johnson deontay johnson. That's a good one. I wanna i wanna see deontay johnston as well. He's really had a great practice. Today was really looked good in and out of his cuts. I hope you can stay healthy. Absolutely <hes> here we go quinter says devon bush one. I hope he plays if he's battling any type of injury. I really don't think he's going to play because i don't think they're going to have to test and let's be honest if vince williams back into vince williams isn't back. Do they really need him to play i. I'm not so sure you'd probably let him sit we to let them play week three sedan bush one. Here's mason rudolph james washington terrell edmonds. That's another good one. Let's let's each roll. Edmonds continue to develop. I thought he a really good game last week. I thought that he had <hes> you know shown some steps that again he was the only you know starter in that lineup last week. Every other player was not either. Not an commodity devin. Bush mark mark barron or was a backup and so i wanna see exactly what's going on with john and the ryan. I gotta put this up there. He says he wants to see mike. Tomlin win win a challenge period well ryan. I think we all wanna see that and every see it well. I hope he challenges a pass interference. Call the preseason. You wanna get a feel you for how they're going to be doing that and things like that. <hes> you know you wanna get a an idea as to how they're seeing things and then being the officials in how i use it <hes> days go field wins it by far with saying that he wants to see jeff jeff hartmann lance williams. I don't know why it lands on that list. He just ruined the list but back to the realist- kevin he says you won't see deonte johnson. I'm sorry gilbert holton bush hottest. You know someone that people aren't really talking about right. Now is sutton smith. Everyone's camp darling. He was the player that everybody was loving to see. They couldn't wait to see son's fifth. Mike tomlin was asked after practice. Stay point blank is smith falling behind. He said one word yes not a good sign for all of those people that want to see more more more sudden smith because he's been injured that thanks abdomen. They don't have to release that but he's he's fallen behind these fallen behind. I'll believe with good point number one. He says already burns already burns returned to practice. He should be back in the lineup and then obviously agencies others deontay johnson and spencer. Are there so these are situations now. Where in my opinion this has been true since offseason since kids free agency in the draft wrapped. This has been true sent in my opinion in that is the steelers blue. We only have about five or six spots that are potentially open period. Everything else is solidified. You will offensive line pretty much solidified. If you think there's still a battle of right tackle whole unless an actual injury takes place bad filers you're starting right tackle period and if you haven't realized that just pay attention the anyone will tell you and so the starters on offense i mean yeah you might be talking about allied rogers ryan switzer which one makes the team you might talk about who plays more moncrieff for washington ashington but you're not talking about a pure camp battle <hes> and so for some of these years talking about depth deaf pieces in those final five or six spots of chris mentioned ulysses gilbert robert <hes> and how he played well but he wants to see like robber spelane because there's really only a few spots left into. That's going to be interesting to see how they play. <hes> let's see i've missed a list here every jerry cherry band. He says he wants to see rudolph washington bush and <hes> he wants to be moncrieff and their said their second on big that'd be deontay. John and i'm sorry who's their second pick not their second round pick. He didn't have a second pick. <hes> kyle smith is still wanna see something smith breath because there are guys who play better in a game that in practice rudolph could be the same since he played graber practice has been that's true too <hes> because is a lot of times you get guys that are in practice and writing it up. I'll give you a perfect example justin hunter. When justin hunter was a member of the steelers wide receiver he made every recap in practice. I'm talking about he made every single acrobatic catch. Everyone was writing about how justin hunter is going to be prolific. Justin hunters going to change the dynamic of the steelers wide receiver core. He's going to be the number two opposite antonio brown when he was here mr third and fifth and what happened when it got a game nothing nothing app he didn't he didn't show out at all. He was a practice player essentially so for that he might have a quarterback like maize him enough. You might not be the best practice quarterback but you know what i'll take a gamer over practice quarterback any day day of the week lance williams chimes and he says he wants to see liz gilbert third. I think a lot of people wanna see list gilbert the third and see what he can do. Hopefully fingers crossed the pittsburgh steelers. Give him a little bit of time with maybe the second team and this is where if i'm the steelers i'm i'm okay now playing devon bush if devon bush's banged up whether it's a hamstring whether it's a me whether it's anything like that is a you know what devon stress asked man just rest take this week off. You're fine. You'll be back for week. Three will probably rescue. We four and plus. We wanna see what guys like ulysses gilbert <hes> spelane. I mean we want to see what they can do so we're on a c. them and so. I absolutely think that <hes> you know that's basically what's going to happen if they decide to keep bush out <hes> so here we have a dare and says he wants to see the new edition linebackers. That's <hes> skipper aladdin e._a. List gilbert bush baron all good competitive guys. It's a good problem to have. I agree one hundred percent absolutely skipper someone. I just don't know where these guys fit. It comes down to. They're gonna have to show out on special teams. If you knew who showdown special teams in week one or two players that came to mind number one was allied danielle who didn't play special rush teams. Dave scofield will tell you that he didn't play special teams last year when he was activated off the injured reserve list but he is playing now in the preseason he played okay okay and so for me. I look at that and say wow okay well. He's he's putting himself in the spot. He's basically saying this is by spot. No one's gonna take me and with sutton. Smith banged up ah. I don't think there's any real name really threatening him. Maybe skipper but i doubt it so <hes>. Let's see here another one <hes> nelson steven nelson. That's good one that suplex tyler said steven nelson is someone that i haven't seen too much of you didn't play much in week one. I'm sure play more we to kai says rudolf deonte johnson ulysses gilbert camp kelly and christian scotland williams and christian scotland williams tight end. He has a hamstring injury. I doubt that he plays. I doubt he replace <hes> kyle. Smith says oh what was surprisingly quick on special teams. I agree and that's one of the reasons that you know who else i forgot to mention the other the player that surprised me on special teams and that was not other than benny snell for as bad as i gave him or tour of a great as i gave him running the football. He showed that he's willing to go play special teams. He's showing that he's willing to go out there and actually make tackles. That's absolutely important so this kind of goes hand in hand. Thomas weights it. He wants to see chris boswell. We all wanna see chris boswell. I don't wanna say ryan tools viner tools that right after him don't forget the kicking competitions really really important. We're talking about chris boswell. We're talking about him. Versus versus matthew ray whatever jordan berry versus ian berryman. I'm not so sure boswell and boswell has kicked is a strong camp. That's not saying that it's guaranteed to translate into success in two thousand eighteen regular season but loses camp has been strong. Matthew right hasn't played hasn't kicked poorly but what is lanes will always say the three players the three ps pay pedigree performance now performance we know what chris basel's those performance alaska's but in terms of pay and pedigree boswell has the advantage of a right now berryman in berry. I think is an open and competition yet assigned jordan berry to a two year deal at the end of last in this past off season that doesn't mean anything they can cut ties with a partner honor and the dead cap space is not gonna hinder them at all especially after they just freed up the space with steph onto its restructure in the world and assume that joe haden eight and gets a new deal and that's going to free up more stuff as well but for me berryman berry that's actually the actual camp battle to watch because 'cause you're talking about really this is this is for a starting job and i don't think the steelers nor should they be sold on jordan barry after his his past two seasons with the steelers being very up and down so if you want to continue to send me who you're looking forward to fuel free in the live chat fire away all throw it up on the screen they're everyone can see it in case they're not watching the livestream but also if you have questions about the steelers you can also send those in and i'll be glad to answer any questions about the steelers <hes> in whatever i however i can and if you want to you don't have to but if you want to you could use the super chat feature that is a little money sign right down where you put your comment in. 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If you've ever notifications on telling you that we went live you can check it out won't miss what guarantee it okay so get those questions coming in then as well as your list of who you are looking forward to seeing this saturday night when tachikawa homes and company come to pittsburgh. If you're wondering is patrick mahomes going to play. He played last week and we won. I assume that any we will have them play at least a series or two against the steelers especially because that's obviously <hes> <hes> the steelers pittsburgh. It's heinz field. It's a it's a test. He wants to put his quarterback through the test not that i'm not sure if you know he needs at test but y- uh-huh proved that test last year when they came into week to beat them so here we go quinteros asked the question will steven nelson play saturday the interesting to see him against his former team since we don't play the cheese in the regular season this year. It's a good question <hes> for me. I think he will play. He played a little bit weak one. I've been going to see a more week to your. I see a lot of already burns. You're gonna see a lot of justin lane rightfully so for both players <hes> and i hope that you'd see little more brian allen because that's someone that chris chris carter tweeted about today really good practice and it's going to be interesting to see how that all plays out with the cornerbacks in in how many they keep bradley for instance brian allen says it is a cornerback and safety cornerback slash safety on the official roster do they keep him as a safety depth because we know how thin the safety depth is. We'll see <hes> vodka drinkers. If i see mccullers push back in our live akraseni vomit tom well you know what can the steelers find somebody that can actually replace it. That's the question because last year's joshua frazier and seventh-round didn't happen. He's not fighting in football anymore this year it. It's isaiah bugs. Can he push him out. I don't know we'll see if if neither if bugs can't do it in live on hoax folks can't do it. We're gonna colors again. Just prepare yourselves to see mccullers again our creates. How much of the stars will we see on saturday this. It all depends. I think you're gonna see some starters play. I'm coach tomlin. I'm not playing ben rothlisberger because i don't need to play ben rothlisberger. What i am going to do <hes> what i am going to do is. I'm going to play james connor little bit. Gonna play jalen sane a little bit more than i did in week. One one in beni smells mainly my second half running back wide receivers juju is going to see some time. I'm going to see dante moncrieff on the field as long as he's healthy. That's key seventies doesn't wanna see we wanna get him out there. Especially these new guys like moncrieff. I wanna see nelson play a little bit more <hes> i wouldn't mind seeing mark baron at back out there again just to just to get his feet under him just to get that vibe from heinz field again and so you <hes> it. We'll see i'll see all right. Lance gives me his list. Here's the as he wants to see. Boswell first moncrieff second nelson gilbert fourth in boswell again is fifth. Thanks to the list lands. We appreciate that <hes> darren ass. Am i the only one that wants to see as a bugs. I don't think you're the only one they want to see as azalea bugs. I just think that honestly at this time. He didn't play much in week one because he was deep down the depth chart. I think he'll play more on week. Two i think go probably play a lot in week or so there. You have it <hes>. I've got some contributors asking about stuff. That's back end stuff. I'll teach gazette ed later. <hes> let's hear rhino tool says i would like to see pre looking motivated not push twenty out of the place. He does get pushed up the arca lot but i'm not about to save. He hasn't improved tic- it on the field this year so but depre- look i know you don't like him. We call him bud on here but he's here for at least another season. Let's hope he has a good year and help us dealers winsome games. That's what i think <hes> north top says. What do you think we're going to do with baron now. That bush is most likely the number two. I don't see point bearing where i disagree north up. We talked about this on some of her others. <hes> other shows that is i actually see erin and bush playing alongside each other and vince williams being the one. That's going to miss time not any other way around. I think devon bush proved his worth last week and i think that it's pretty obvious that he deserves the play. I think the baron is athletic can cover. He's a big hitter. He fits well. I even williams being more of sub package guy. It sounds crazy to say that but that's just what i think and we are all entitled to our opinions. You may disagree and that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion but at the same time that's just the the way i look at it. Hi daniel amanda we get to tell everyone about the new pod eaters ideas digest that is right are brand. New podcast is available available now. It's everything you need to know about the world of food every week with a little help from the biggest names in the industry and journalists from the eater newsroom. We're gonna talk about everything from the worst things that diners do in restaurants too fake meat. We're gonna talk about food delivery attack. We are going to argue a lot about how to best behave in restaurants. Oh yeah big time so many things i mean we can't type politics who didn't politics. Yes complex comes up. It might make you laugh might make you think it might even make you hungry daniel. I'm so subscribed to digest four free today on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app. Five dollars in the tip jar are from jerry jerry band saying just want to say you guys are doing great job. I appreciate your knowledge saved the steelers will we thank you not only for the five dollar tip but also for checking us out all the time we appreciate it <hes>. He's regular in the live chat. A lot of these people were regulars. If you catch us ever on the live chad. It's a really cool little community. We have developed guys know each other girls know each other because we all know for leashes in here all the time <hes> so make sure if you ever in the live chat pop in there no donald cut you down trust me too good spot <hes> awesome stuff nineteen eighty-three ass when we see the entire starting defense against mahomes to test out the unit against an elite quarterback order back. I think you'll see like i said about the offensive side the same on the defensive side and the answer to that is i think you'll see camera hayward. I think you'll see steph onto do it. J von hargrave played in week one again. You're not going to see him for a long time. Maybe a quarter it all depends <hes> mike tomlin in the past that the defense comes out sluggish and soft. He'll keep him in for a half. I'm not suggesting they do that but at the same time i think you will see the sealer started. Defense minus sean davis because of his injury injury minus joe haden because of his injury other than that. I feel like you should see vote again. Bush where he plays around devin bush <hes> other than that he goes he pretty much as a starting defense for the pittsburgh steelers when we to but again tomorrow is mike tomlin or this record on wednesday it will be published on thursday at thursday's in his press. Conference will no more then so when we're on the preview. That's when you'll get to we'll we'll talk about more about who is his entities out at that time and david obviously gives his predictions before the game a crazy chris. He gives us a dollar ninety nine. It drove me appreciate as it is worthy to dr bush in a fantasy. I'm <hes> i. I guess there are some fantasy. Leagues have defensive players <hes>. I had been in one to be honest with you. <hes> everyone knows my daily fantasy <music> of session. I don't do traditional leagues anymore was just turned down like three opportunities this past week actually for traditionally but still i would i would if he's if you're in a league that does have defensive players and does collect points per stats like tackles. Yes yes yes. You're not crazy to pick up bush fantasy league of divas of players. He's gonna be a tackle machine for the steelers. You might not get you the sacks that you want from the linebacker that he'll get you the tackles he'll get you the pass breakups if they keep that as a statistic and possibly some interceptions to keep that in mind ali gives us a unique list. He's looking forward to you. Dave where the kyle red mask caesium has on good internet and the skinny guy. The hangover gets a new camera okay. It's technology technology guys if we had all the money in the world have two desktops today mike he asks will sutton smith see to feel this weekend as of right now i i say no. He did not practice today again and mike tomlin is not one to have a player completely. Sit out and then just say all right. Go get them. They have to prove that they're healthy. They have to prove that they're capable. It uprooted. They're ready and i'm not sure if that's the case speaking of the inside linebacker situation situation kyle smith says barron will be the sub. I don't know if you want to small linebackers in the field the same time in base package well. I see your point. Kyle and i definitely understand it and i do. You think there's going to be a point where barron is on the sidelines potentially in first and second down or obvious running downs but i think since the steelers transitioning into a pass the defense team just like the rest of the n._f._l. There are sub package team. You're going to see him on the field more than vince waves. That's just something. I believe you can say whatever you want but take it to. The bank. Felicia finally shows up ten dollars <unk>. We appreciate his hey. I'm late but i'm looking forward to seeing dante. Spencer redeems himself love as a punt returner sure he's going to have to do some damage other than in part returns because you have this other players that are entrenched. They're like ryan switzer su. I'm not it's impossible but he's gonna have to show. Some big plays some splash as by tomlin says and e._s. What does switzer after due you to get your redesignation on the roster. Will he just lose out the holden. It comes down to special teams and on talking about not return guys. I'm talking about coverage. He's he's going to have to actually show that. He has a good rapport with rothlisberger. He can go out there and return kick. Return punts be effective at that <hes> he. He says that he can be an offense offensive playmaker and not just returning. It'll need ways to roster spot a return men. That's just me that's my belief. I think switzer makes the team but there's a lot to be proven. Still darren says he wants to see mason. Rudolph not only star but have a chance to play with more of the starters to and see what he can produce with them. I agree and this is something i said on the sunday. Shows standard is a standard is that it's kind of crazy when you think about adopts went in with a pretty shoddy backup blinded never really played before it seemed like when rudolph came in and in the second quarter he was the one that cutting rally the troops offense advisor to playing better. Let's say he starts this week. He's gonna be starting with some starting law offensive lineman. He's going to have every opportunity to shine. It's going to be up to him to actually get the job done. So there you go <hes> crees. Wait to the end of the preseason your daughter because or will it be throughout the rest of the preseason the you might have a player or to get cut but it's not going to be anything drastic. <hes> easy players get cut in waived injured and <hes> the with the injured designation all the time <hes> so that could definitely happen but at the the same time. I don't think it's going to be a situation where the steelers like cutting down ten players at a time. That's just not how they do it. They wait until they have to. They cut from ninety two fifty three one one fell swoop done and then after that's when they start juggling their roster they start seeing who's available. Who can they pick up who can get rid of who they signed into. The practice squad who clears waivers all that stuff. It's just what that's just personally what i think <hes> awesome stuff nineteen eighty-three. Do we trade rogers to keep home mm or spencer again to have someone get traded. You have to have someone. That's willing to give up a commodity for them. This is is really important for everyone to remember so you have to have someone who says i value. Eli rogers enough that i'm going to give up something. It might be a seventh round pick. It might be a we'll pick up salary whatever it is you have to have someone. That's willing to do that and if an n._f._l. Team thanks for the second that they're not can make the team that you i rogers isn't going to make the roster anyways. They're not gonna trade for because they'll say. We'll just wait. We'll wait and could get him off waivers. Why pay something for when you can get in for free and that's what you have to think so. You didn't even play a full season last year. He keeps coming off his a._c._l. Injury i don't think he was brought onto the roster roster until we fifteen against england minutes. I maybe week fourteen. I could be wrong but definitely week. Fifteen against england was like his kind of coming back party <hes> and so again. You have to have suitors before you get a trade. It's easy to say well. We'll try devon hodges. Why why i wouldn't trade for devil and hottest. He's going to get caught anyways so they'll just wait. Wait it out so <hes> any did he brings up a good point on my way this roster prediction we bump switzer. If you did read their the tape and i said it was between he and rogers we flip the coin and it went to like he just said it. Went went to switzerland cut this week. The coin could resolve the different next week so there you go <hes>. It's here here we go to to all right. Lands is pumping his show. Yeah i said it. I'll put it on the screen. No news is good. News is coming friday since the game is on saturday so to to give you lay. The land is too good segment ended at tonight. Wednesday night is was the steelers went on one again i if you miss chris carter segment the audio wasn't bad the visual it was awful. I apologize for that. I had no idea that was going to be that way. It wasn't that way last time <hes> and so i- polished for that so but then tomorrow night thursday day night live on youtube will be the steelers preview with myself dave and brian and then friday night. Lance will bring you his yeah. I said it live here on youtube friday friday night edition. I'm not sure if he'll have his. Yes shoot landscape friday night. He might be little loose. If you know what i mean little loose lips little loose with a drink and then saturday night. I'll be on here for the steelers postgame. I will probably <hes> probably has the one other lands. He has something go on off someone sub for him sunday. We'll be back for the standards the standard next week y'all often at it there. You have it so <hes>. Let's see here here we go. Let's see if some of the questions together. Let's let's get these questions. If you have a list by all means hit me upper if not we'll call it a show. I really appreciate all the communication you all have said it. <hes> has really helped out a lot here we go. I'm gonna give you my five players five players to watch which again i didn't really get to this. I started getting into live. Chad was figured out the feature on how to actually you know they're gives us two bucks. I love this hashtag. Do you for drake. We should get that training folks. We should get that trending dude for drake coach darryl drake. I appreciate that <hes> crazy chris mrs bush or what oh i guess you're talking about your fantasy league. I would do t. J. watt. No doubt he's going to have more sacks. I'm pretty sure zest will get you more points tackles and he'll have plenty of tackles too so there you go okay five players that i wanna see play this saturday night. I'm going to try to think outside the box here so i don't want everyone to the i'm looking forward. Is the dan yea. He was shut out last week. I wanna see him get help period number one number two. I wanna see jalen samuels. I wanna see him get some actual carries in the backfield. I wanna see if he can be more than just a gimmick player this year i know he racked up one forty two against the patriots last year. I wanna see him become more of a standard running back. That could be primary backup in case. James connor gets hurt occa- okay number three. I wanna see a better defense. I heard on dave's stack e-class night that they gave up thirty one first downs. I believe that's a little that's a little much. That's a little much tighter their defense. I wanna seed specifically justin lane play a little bit better. Please just a little bit better. Her don't become the latest of a long list of made round. Dud cornerbacks to the pittsburgh steelers a little bit better. Please <hes> let's go go with wanna see chris boswell. That's been it's been talked about a lot and lastly i will go with xavier dribble fifth because they grumble is extremely important for me in my opinion. He's extremely important to this team. He needs to be a number two tight end and if not the steelers are going to guaranteed indeed have to make a move at tight end before the regular season and if you remember when they did that with vance mcdonald it takes time. It's not like a position where you can just come in and just all right in a place they. I really hope that this year's are able to do that and i really hope xavier grumble shows that he is able to kind of come back and can play better all right so <hes> awesome stuff he brings up a point that i brought up in the comments section of behind the soaker dot com use any chance we can bring back richard man to elba receiver room. He retired two years ago when they hired darryl drake. I think that makes sense. I said that it made sense at the time but also i. I realized that they brought in richard sherman. He's been sending the whole month of camp with the team. <hes> he was a former offensive coordinator for the steelers that they get ninety eight. There's a chance that he does he takes job over and just just for this season's hire someone else so. I'm not sure what's going to happen. They haven't made anything official yet no matter and what she read. There's been nothing from the pittsburgh. Steelers stay that sherman is a new wide receivers coach blamed stewart's and none of that so right now they have. They might tallinn's and you have a plan in place. There just aren't releasing a yet to hear that keep with salt. Here's a tough question j griffin as best jersey to get for this year okay. This is a question. I've asked a good many times and i always say diviner jersey as an investment especially. If you're not going the brian anthony davis us route and priority. Dave is getting his from overseas for cheap if you're gonna pay for an actual nike jersey. Make sure you're getting a player. It's gonna be around so for me. If you gotta devon bush jersey. I feel like you're hedging your debt in the right way. He's a rookie unless he has an injury are- he'll be there for five seasons the fifth year option on him <hes> and then if he's that good they'll definitely pick him up and get him a new contract. <hes> i think that you look at other players possibility juju smith schuster would probably be safe. Bet <hes> i tend to lean towards even like ben rothlisberger bergonzi if you're looking for a new player though devon bush's where your money should be period so make sure it speaking of david cash or someone you get a d._v._d. Cashiers if you have not seen this yet we've given away some pretty cool stuff here on buying the steel curtain especially in our podcast platform. We gave away two tickets to the draft party. We we gave away two tickets to the first preseason game <hes> we gave away <hes> we're getting away an autographed decastro football and dona fide autographed autographed. David <unk> cashable all pro guard in the n._f._l. 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Steelers Post-Game: Breaking down the good, and the bad, of the Steelers Week 1 Preseason win

Behind the Steel Curtain

41:56 min | 1 year ago

Steelers Post-Game: Breaking down the good, and the bad, of the Steelers Week 1 Preseason win

"Jeff hartmann editor behind the steel curtain dot com with you for another actually not another. This is the first steelers postgame of two thousand nineteen where we're here myself co. Who's lance williams to talk about. The pittsburgh steelers one thirty to twenty eight week one preseason over the tampa bay buccaneers lands house ago ellen tonight. What are your knee-jerk reactions to the game man big up to you jeff man. It's a long day for you on the east coast my brother mad. It's almost midnight. My thought was good lower. That was a long game. My goodness challenges go off some with the officiating late. The hitting a defenseless receiver would forty five seconds to go. It was just it was it was it got bad. Ed started fast forty between each play just to get to the next play <hes> man but overall solid performance by a lot of players for the doers before we get the live chats already starting to get hot. I conceive were anxious to talk about the game and stuff like that. I want to say first and foremost almost a preface to this that lance and i are going to hold all conversation about mr third and fifth until sunday's shows the standard. I'll talk a little bit about it tomorrow. Okay tomorrow is fine time but we will get into our debate on that it. It might actually be a debate on mr third and fifth on sundays. The standard is this data so please. Let's focus strictly on <hes> you know the the the steelers play so let's talk about who stood out to you in a positive way. I'm gonna go first. How can you start anywhere other than number fifty. Five devon bush bush was all over the field. I think i heard that he had ten tackles hit a pass break up. I think that would have been no. I think it was nullified. Actually kazaa that was a play that tastes and all called for roughing the passer but still <hes> tackle for a loss. He looked good lands. You agree disagree three amen. I second motion <hes>. That kid is explosive. He's all over the field and it's going to be hard for them to keep him off the football all the football field. I mean it's gonna be he's gonna be starting very so he's not gonna be limited to being a sub packed football player. They're going to have to get him on the field and i think that might be dangerous for <hes> vidi vici in the future i was listening to the pre-game show on the steelers goes nation radio and they were talking essentially that <hes> in this is my pursuit of this is bob lab arreola and such jerry dulack of the pittsburgh gazette and they were talking about how they were see vince williams turning into a casey hampton type no not that he's gonna play nose tackle but that he's only going to really you playing on early obvious running or run potential down coming off the field and barren and bush will be out there. I was impressed with baron speed. He's willing the delay the lumber he's kind of a hard hitter to <hes> overall. I think a lot of people might look at that. I drive a genius. Winston took the offense down the field and scored a touchdown that they would say oh man <hes> it didn't look good but you gotta remember there was one official starter on that football field and that was terrell relevant so lance go ahead with who's another player that stood out to you in a positive way boswell. I think boswell very good pull out of the hat wasn't expect now and it comes as well in fact i have i listed like six or seven players in boswell was number one reason why i say boswell and i know there's a lot out of excitement about the rookie but the rookie doesn't score points boswell scores points when you have a kicking game that was asked inconsistent as the steelers last year i i know that all of steeler nation the coaches everybody steeler universe was trying to check out boswell to see if perform well and he was kicking them right down. The middle had a with juice with a lot of leg a lot of power. Look good at extra points. I thought he was fantastic and if boswell he looked like the boswell of two years ago. Let me ask you this about chris boswell because i agree he had a great performance kicked. The ball in terms of kickoffs does a good job. What's it gonna take for you to not ought be a nervous wreck like i am whatever he's lining up to kick a field goal because one preseason game is not gonna do it first game winner. Oh god that's the first game winner <hes> but but i think i mean my memory is short with baas baas kick the ball so well that first year <hes> <hes> when when he really was one of the most important factors that dim going thirteen and three you know my memory is short. I think baas i mean i. I don't know i think baas was just in a funk doc. I think he had golfer. <hes> you know the hips i think he just had the the gifts. Last year was in a bad place. Mentally you know when guys are motivated and they wanna eat each stake instead of sirloin. You know you can see the best okay. The hips can end people's careers to see now. Yes hopefully it was baker. Fitch ian baker finch terms have not necessarily gives the losing swing david duval corey pavin. They all went so there are a lot of gophers but anyways. Let's give back to football. I'm gonna give you another name and i know that ali who's a regular in the live chat. He is always he's always busting my chops because i always bring up james washington but it's via turned to say i thought james washington played extremely well tonight and and this is from dobbs andrew off. I'll get to those two guys of sure and a second but i was super impressed with washington's. He didn't just catch the deep ball he he also had the nice. I thought that toe tap would have been really awesome. If you go to made the touchdown catch me at the back shoulder touchdown from rudolf he worked over the middle middle he took a big hit got up. He caught the pass. I loved his versatility. I think he's going to i'm not saying he's gonna beat out moncrieff. He's going it'd be pushing him and i think that's a good thing. The steelers know how to pick receivers last year proven to be just craziness all-round and i think he's settling in what do you think about that lance. I'm go even farther jeff and this could be a little show wager that we can have marked the tape. If you're in a live chat. He's he's gonna beat out moncrieff. Oh okay he's going to start you know when he looked like he looked like a confident football player. He looked like a guy. That was the second round draft pick. That was an awesome player in college against guys that he knew weren't as good as him and he made them. Look that way and that's what you wanna see. When you have a highly drafted guy a guy that your banking or when they play against guys that might be backing groceries you make them look like like guys that might be bagging groceries and i was most impressed with his. Would he caught the football. He caught the football. There was no movement in his hands ends. They were solid confident catches his use of body control even in the run game when he was blocking on the edge everything he did with the purpose and he looked looked extremely confident and if he comes in plays like that with the addition of marguerite than it is what it is this offense can get it done. Okay okay. So what is your next person on your list. I'm gonna go with because you said rudolph you. I didn't say rudolph yet. Well yeah yeah. That's right your character jeff. I'm not going to steal your thunder. Go go ahead. Go go ahead and talk. Yes talk about your guy. Go ahead confers. Let me say that. I thought all three quarterbacks had really good moments tonight. I thought that <hes> added three mason rudolph was in any very unique situation and let me explain it. Lands called me on his way home and i was talking about his lands. Did you see what i was talking about how they say yes yes. It was associated with dobbs is under center. They had rosie neck's out there. They had him under center didn't have been the shotgun as much. It just seemed weird. In then once mason ace rudolf comes in it's like okay now we can real offense and he's in the shotgun the most of the time there's no full back. They're spreading teams out. He's able to read and make a quick decision. I hi do like rudolph. He showed me a couple aspects of his game. I didn't think he had number one. It was the past play where he escaped. The pocket. There was a holding call was was nullified. That is the fact that he had the escapee. This feed which was not was a knock on him coming out of oklahoma state that he was like a statue in the pockets. I was impressed with with that and he had two patients on that. Touchdown passes act gentry to stay in the pocket. Don't get happy feet and try to break it outside. He stayed in their through strike. I've i thought mason rudolph played well. I was less impressed with bucky hodges although he is receivers didn't help him much in although joshua dobbs numbers look good i ride the he had the thirty six yard run that was nice <hes> and he delivered the deep balto attempts jeans washington but other than that i just thought the dobbs was just this kind of me for being the starter for playing with the sh- what should be the best but then again i i. We haven't gotten to the negatives yet but the negatives i had one of them was in the backup. Offensive line absolute garbage in so dazs didn't have a lot of times. I'm gonna take that with a grain of salt as well. <hes> what are your thoughts the quarterbacks in general nachos rudolph after the game i think to your point i think both <hes> rudolph and the third urge drink guy both look much better in the pocket. I think to your point about touchdown. Throw on you can see the maturation of rudolph in the pocket as was he was calm kept his head up kept scanning the football field and looking for outlets and targets and made an excellent throw with accuracy towards the corner of the himself with a touchdown pass that that shows you that he has elevated his game in the second year. I think the other two guys have much better pocket doc it presents then josh dobbs and going back to josh dobbs although he hit that pass that pass was inaccurate on the deep post to to washington that should have been a touchdown <hes> he you can even see from behind the play from the camera angle from the quarterback angle he had at least three to four yards of separation operation from the corner onto post if he throws that anywhere towards the opposite hash and lets him run under that that's a touchdown and that's that's the the the small level of detail that that coaching staff and i'm sure coaching staffs are looking at that little bit of act or lack of accuracy took points off the board. I think the other two guys look better than dobbs. I think i'll go as far as to say that. Get your guy. I think solidified the fact that he's going to be the number two quarterback. I think rudolph one that job tonight. He looked much better than dobbs to me. He's going to have to duplicate duplicate that in week two. I would not be shocked if tomlin comes out this weekend says it's been our plan all along route us going to start week to <hes> unless unless less rothlisberger is gonna play. Let me prove their political play band at all we too. We know that he'll be out there but if mason rudolph is going to be the next quarterback up then dan he's gonna have to duplicate this success. He had tonight if he wants to win that number two jobs because here's the other thing that you know this is jeff that we're rudolph came in everything got crisper the blocking the pace the energy of the offense the whole christmas of the offense just the body language. Everything was faster. It was more intense. It was more grist. Everything was done with a better purpose. It's almost like they were like the office of line was like wow thanks dobbs is out. We can start not really playing rudolph said let's go get something done and like everything just drastically changed with rudolf came to gay and they may see wonder it makes a._c. Wonder why he now has been there and extra years now. He doesn't know the offense. It's not that he's not a smart player in can't call up protections. It's just strange. That sometimes sometimes happens but it did. I agree with you hundred percent. It look like a completely different offense <hes> once they got in there so <hes> and i i think i might have said bucky hodges earlier. It's ah buckey. Ten bucks was a tight end <hes> so <hes> go ahead lance. Who is the next <hes>. That's a dollar yeah. I thought he was a character to m._c. You just let you i'll let you roll with it. I maybe bookies last day from captain america. I was like maybe jeff is point. Now wintered sold out late. That's what it is. Yes it is. I'm gonna give you <hes> his last day. I believe is skipper skipper and ulysses gilbert. Those two guys really stood out as well particularly gilbert gilbert. He's quick which i mean that guy fifty four gilbert i mean his his burst in suddenness to the quarterback. It even plays that he was making an red zone. They can't cut that guy he he will not. They'll either have to put. They're gonna have to do something with him. He flashed his level of athleticism. You've gotta figure out a place for him. I think hey i'm spencer hall. I'm holly anderson. I'm ryan nanny. I'm jason kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast gassed it says in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what it is. It's all spoiled. Every tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable the pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now health if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app. I just don't know where it goes back to a discussion i had with <hes> my source will call it and says it tyler medicaid which is a very coveted player on this team and that <hes> they're dot gov part ways with him unless they absolutely have to but i say to that. A similar song was sung last year landry jets in what happened every longer than he's trying to the x._f._l. Is what's happening <hes> i i was stunned by it and i think there's going to be a couple of players. This year that you really i you dave scofield. I talked about this a lot on our one of our shows shows. I think it was one. We filled in for you on the standards standard. He said who's gonna fill that darius hayward barrel you go through all of the wide receivers that they have that everyone assumes is is going to make the team you know you i rogers ryan switzer deontay johnson juju smith schuster and i'm forgetting james washington dante mockery. There's your six how many of them play special teams zero unless you're counting return man johnny hamilton tonight he had a big catch he had some returns earns he could be that dearest hebei guy in he could lead to someone losing a spot on the roster so is going to be interesting to see but i agree with you u._s.'s he's gilbert. I thought looked good. I would love to see him. Play a little bit more with like <hes> the next level up. Maybe give him some time in the third quarter see what he does there but i don't know so <hes> let's see here. Someone said fire tomlin come on now sears. She's he's funny though funny he did lose a challenge but i saw the i saw and i'm like i don't know why he's challenging. This and that's always the case for me as i will get say i'd. I'm trying to think why in the world challenge this big. No one picked up the football football. No one claimed her now. It doesn't make any sense city. He just wanted the game to go longer. Yeah those those the second half that would never end <hes> <hes> so. I'm gonna go with the next player that i thought played well. I was really impressed with jalen samuels in the limited amount of time. He touched the football. He ran the ball well. He should he still more than capable of catching the ball. He had some more speed than i remember last year a little bit more burst. I was very happy to see that. I think that's going to round up nicely in there. <hes> running back squad whether you call it <hes> what were your thoughts on jalen samuels he didn't touchable much when you daddy made plays great lateral quickness great feat that run towards the red zone great feat great patience in the whole <hes> he looks better. He looks better. He looks like he does have more juice. <hes> an elite me to you know when we get to the negatives <hes> and i'll checks depose <music> him here. Any other positives know that the game that the game finally ended that that it wasn't it's i it s the funny thing is i commented on your show. I think it was the first was the thursday show a new prediction and i said why i said the game was going to be a tie and it was dark. It was a really close. That'd be dreadful a tie preseason game say what did you go head into your negatives goods. The first player that he thought didn't really play well or the backup. Offense have line was pretty bad to start the game but but chuck sichor or four was really bad <hes>. I think if there's a thought that chuck's going to be a starting tackle this year. I think that was i think you saw that. He's not going to be a starting tackle this year. Some of those blocks were really bad in pass protection but on the opposite end and that's the negative for him but i thought <hes> and you guys might get ready to put something in a tip jar because i think i'm going to say this guy's name incorrectly correctly but i thought that matt filer yes fiber right yeah that matt filer played really okay well at guard <hes> in the game today and i think he solidified his position whereas value on a team even more plant well on the inside but i think chuck's occur for local really bad at the tackle position the the camp battles over if it hasn't been decided yet honestly i would say right now. <hes> barring injury or something crazy happening you have mad file is going to be. You're right tackle. I think they do like <hes> chew chor four whereas they're swing but don't be shocked. Zach banner somehow find his way into the mix as well. He played a ton and he didn't play badly. So what does that mean who who who loses their roster spot with gerald hawkins will yes yes. Yes i think he's the odd man out and fred johnson. I believe is his name is the giant giant of a man that they have a gourd who can play both guard spots and said they keep him keep banner and keep filer. Filer can move inside as well. They have a super versatile saloth offensive line and they're all frigging huge still yeah i didn't know until i was watching the program that banner stead lincoln kennedy yeah outstanding player. He's played for the raiders. He played for university of washington outstanding player lincoln kennedy so that was one of my negative who who's a negative for you jeff. I gotta be honest with you. I was pretty disappointed. Many snell tonight <hes> i wanna hear your points and there were certain things and i it was his first n._f._l. Action i get that i'm sure there was nerve spit. There are some times where you hear about what he's being build up to mckee's downhill runner. He's a one cut and go guy and said they would braun a a little you know lead a guard pooling and he's got a gap to just shoot up. Get four. We're five yards. Put your head down and give get the artist necessary. He's trying to string it out of james karak in string it out. He's fast enough to do that. Benny snow is not fast enough to do that. The the disappointing things actually tweeted this out for the behind. This curtain twitter handle was vans. Mcdonald needs to teach this kiddo. Throw stiff arm. I mean he whipped like two or three times. He's getting taken down the open field by a quarterback to me. That's not that's not any snow football. You know we've we've been snow football using air quotes air for those listening and audio. Although <hes> i just wasn't i. I'm not saying that he's a dud. I'm not saying he's a boss. I understand that now these that first game out of the way he knows what to expect. I hope see some approve next time you already gave him a nickname me and my dad were watching the game but we were just laughing because you know i don't know if you guys know benny and the jets one of my favorite favorite songs might be my favorite all time song. I love that song. I was a kid when he came out and instead of biddy the jets i was thinking benny no jets there is there is a term called lateral quickness. It's how quick you can't cut ah laterally as it sounds lateral quickness. He has no lateral witness the play that you're talking about when he he was all he had to do is make the cut. If you have lateral quickness you don't even have to stiff arm the corner he had to stiff arm to quarter with because he didn't have lateral quickness all you also you could see when he runs laterally his steps get his ballot. He loses ballots and he's just not explosive. You know maybe he has can't legs. Maybe his legs were dead from a lot of activity during camp but he just i didn't look explosive and so when you juxtapose him against <hes> at men's or you juxtaposed him against <hes> in any of the other backs you can see the difference. I mean you can see the difference you could see that they have explosion. There's life there's electricity to where they run the football when benny snell runs and it looks like the lice which is turned off. There's no juice. There's no jets so i'm hoping to see the more honestly i like edmonds a lot better than benny snell and samuel was much better. I mean sample compare samuels and compare your business. Now i mean i know he's a but he'd even do. The one cut down hill stuff well. He was slow to the whole. I mean that's why you can't believe everything. I think that you hear when you're reading about camp stuff. I mean the guy looked ferry pedestrian but he will be protected because of the p the the pedigree. He's a draft pick so i'm sure he's in no danger of getting cut. I don't think benny hill did everything poorly because i thought he did pass protection well. There's a couple of times where he had a nice a nice slides to protect the passer and i thought he caught the ball okay in the end you know and that was something that he wasn't asked to do a lot. In kentucky benny snow is the prototypical in happened with the <hes> the guy that's up in the new york jets now and he was mr. Mr butt naked robbed <hes> mister but nick iran fell he came in and i think a lot of these guys running backs thinks okay. I need you to bulk up. I need to get bigger and stronger for the n._f._l. When in reality they need to be conditioned and they need to be as fast as they can. James connor went through the same thing he came back from your your one year to oklahoma got totally different player. He was more dynamic last season than he was broke. Even in a limited time i would expect any snow to follow that same career path in terms conditioning. This deals will get on him. <hes> i don't want to pile on this kid too much because it's just as i game and it's we've already mentioned. The offense of wine was not that great in especially early on in the game. He had no running room so i don't want to go too far but that's my negative anyone else pop out at negative to you. Oh man justin lane he does get paid to cover quarters not to run away from him and he also gets paid to tackle guys not air like if he he did an excellent job tackling oxygen tackling here johnny beer here at so if you're grading him or tackling air excellent if you're attacking people not that good he he looked very tentative i mean he just i mean you. I mean he he was covering guys if they had the proverbial cooties he just didn't wanna get close. It was antoine blake esque. Yes yes cortez allen ask. Yes i mean it wasn't good it it it. It wasn't good. I mean he's you know again. He has the pedigree protecting him possibly but he's a lower pick so who knows. I didn't think he was very good. I think he has to approve play a little more confidence and take some more chance. He played on us the whole game. Yes the fourth quarter. I think tomlin was like you're. You're going to be played period. He didn't contest any bar. Believe i mean if it wasn't a completion. It was an <music> overthrow so i mean he he made the play early in the first half but that wasn't a good ball. I think by james winston he didn't turn komo carried the ball a little bit tough with the kid. It was his first start. I think he played that will now i agree in lisa's first start and and he's probably learning different schemes and i think that for me is i can't stand it when it's third three and a defensive back is eight eight yours off the ball in they don't they don't protect the boundary well and that was him in a nutshell night so i wasn't pleased with justin lane either <hes> i'm gonna go with my negative even save that the officiating mike josh guys i mean yes i mean we're trying to set the tone in the preseason and i know that you're i know there's holding on every play. That doesn't mean that you need to call it. On every play. I swear in a some of it pisses me off about the steelers is the fact that you know every time there's a special teams return or kick coverage. There's the penalty of the steelers. There's a whole there's something there's always something so <hes> the penalties ladies and the officiating tonight i was a little much <hes> the roughing the passer on taste hawala was soft <hes>. I thought that the <hes> hit on the defensive offensive receiver with a forty five seconds land forty five seconds yeah forty five seconds but i'm assuming it's my my dad used to always tell me as their preseason to okay. Yes it is back a great one. I mean they call defensive holding on the there he is he'll be back. I think i'm back now. Can you hear me now jeff there. Yeah i can hear you okay. We're good it was it's our it's our preseason to anyway. The officials called defensive holding on a nose guard. I was like dude. They never called defense of holding on defensive lineman. I'm like really i mean really i mean. They rarely hold because they're trying to penetrate. I mean but jeez come out and that was in in the first quarter. That was like i drive or something. I was like really this is bad but here here's another guy that was really bad and i and i know they're trying to figure this <unk> out. Bruce arians with the challenge on p._i. I'll come on bruce. Can we get out of here at the us. Thousands come on man like kim. Well have bruce arians going for two on three different occasions in the game over three. It's one of the situation like a i okay i get it. You're going forward if you get it. You're up one if you don't you're down to it's gonna you're not gonna end up in a tie and then at the end of the the game like holy crap he's over to. They're going to get it. It's gonna go to time and i'm going to want to shoot someone ahead like you know what you know. What i you know. My dad was criticized because he's like yeah. You know. Guys are tron evaluate guys so they can do it. You know what my thought was as i was watching this dreadful fourth quarter. I'm sorry to say steeler fans. It was long and i'm sure jeff is like mad dude. It's getting late. I'm ready to go to sleep <hes> there. There needs to be a running clock in the fourth quarter preseason games. Just run the clock. Let the clock is run. The clock stops during the t._v. Timeout once we get back jack just let that thing run. Do not stop the clock. I would take it a step further in preseason games. Have two halves go college. Basketball style style. Just has no quarters. Just you have first half second half then you're don c._n._n. Kency later by <hes> so <hes> okay. I can't really think of anything else the thing that i always want to take in remind folks that are listening to this or watching this that the steelers were a shell of themselves like guy mentioned earlier. We assume that bush is going to start but let's just say right now. He's not a starter that meant its relevance was the only defensive starter to play tonight. That's it joe. Hayden is steven nelson. No sean davis cameron heyward no steph onto adjacent hargrave did play but he did not start or anything of that nature. <hes> you know vince williams wasn't in there it but depre- t. j. watt just that's the none of them played. None of them play so i know that a lot of fans were upset. I checked twitter notifications about the tackling and defensive bob la. Whatever <hes> is it is what it is my question for you on a couple of players first and foremost zola danny. What were your thoughts on him. He kinda got some pressure a couple of times he he's tearing up camp due to the hype or what i think he did but but not so much on defense more so for me on special teams i thought he was fantastic on special teams and i think you'll see his immediate impact there and i think he'll be used as an obvious pass rushing situations to give probably but do priebus blow because i i don't think they can afford to really take t. J. watt off the field but he'll be a situation pass rusher and he's quick twitch. I mean i i mean the guy is as athletic as all get out so i was impressed by his his tenacity motor and athleticism my next question is is kind of a hypothetical and that is you look at some of these rookies that were injured or some of these players that really need to get on the football field a the biggest guy like sutton smith who didn't play tonight because of injury artie burns. He didn't play because of injury <hes> deonte johnson who didn't play because of injury. How important to you view is that they get on this football field next saturday night when they host the kansas city chiefs at heinz field in week two. Will you know what they say. And what did they s. H. jeff can't make club from the tub. That's all i gotta say well. What about burns. He's the guy that at least you know something about him. He's not a complete unknown like sutton's men were. They paid already burst eight hundred thousand. He's staying already. Burns's role is pretty solidified. The less nelson elson falls on his face and or <hes> joe haden it is not an effective player and even then you have sutton and you yeah you probably have sutton as two i backup then artie burns to back up there already birds when they paid the roster bonus. He'll be back. This just probably be his last year all right my last question for you. We give her final thoughts on the game. The final score was thirty to twenty eight tonight. Which of the sides of the football is is is this closer to in terms of regular season play. The offense scoring thirty or the defense is giving up thirty which is which is a you know i think when the game's elite started can i get c. T. fence not being as good as we thought or the offense is going to be around thirty minutes games <hes>. I think it's probably it closer to what the office o._b. <hes> i think the defense will be better than that. I mean the one thing that showed up to me that they appear to be faster <hes> <hes> and and i think they will be improved if devon bush continues to play like that and i wanna give myself credit and give us credit for the senate that i did a while back about vince williams. It is limited snap counts. You know this is something that we both thought something that i did in the podcast how vince was going to be limited. I believe next year in the ability. The snap steady plays. I think the steelers defense will be better so i don't think this was indicative of how good i think they'll be. This is hi daniel. Hi amanda we get to tell everyone about the new pod eaters ideas digest that is right are brand. New podcast is available l. now. It's everything you need to know about the world of food every week with a little help from the biggest names in the industry and journalists from the eater newsroom. We're gonna talk about everything from the worst things that diners do in restaurants to bake mete. We're gonna talk about food delivery tack. We are going to argue a lot about how to best behave in restaurants. Oh yeah the big time so many things. We can't type politics food in politics in it. Yes uh-huh comes up. It might make you laugh. It might make you think it might even make you hungry daniel. I'm i am so subscribed to eaters digest for free today on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app. They're here three season. Yes love it so all right. I got most of what you said. <hes> i think the offense i agree. Have you offense would be good so what what do you take away from this game here. This game is over week. One the susan wanna know oh heading into week two. Is there anything that you take away from this or is it just another meaningless preseason game. They're happy with bush. I think bush is what they thought he was and that the game was really long. Yeah i i agree with you devin bush. I think that if the if the steelers i'm i'm pretty happy with the way the quarterback play today i would agree. I would agree all three of them. I would agree with james washington because granville you. You took him in the second round last year in everyone's thinking here we go jews you two point. Oh let's bring him up and boy he did not do that and so i think there was a little uneasiness in the steelers over his ation about james washing after last year. I know it's one preseason game but if there's any game that he could visit he could have done to silence his critics. He did that tonight. Every opportunity at he'll kill third corners. He'll kill third quarter. They get him on the corners. That's a win. I thought that they expect to win there. I agree i agree and so and i think that the steelers had to be really happy with the guy you mentioned. I chris boswell absolutely whoa. This is a guy that oh my gosh. It's it's one of those situations where you're like a man. We just need this guy to get get close to that two hundred seventeen form in not henny bid of the two thousand eighteen which was just dreadful but hey matthew right. Here's here's a call well to the city embarrasment. Who's the backup for jordan berry. Both of them only had one point. I believe but he was the one that had a nice long punt resulted in a touchback back that i think boswell has his because of his contract but at the other the punter situation it's going to be one to watch as the preseason goes offs. Oh <hes> any final thoughts here before we call it a show. A steeler football is back and that's all it was a positive to season has officially started <hes> <hes> so more hypothesizing we actually have some actual football that you can watch and great. It have an opinion on so that's always a good thing this this. This is back jeff you ready. I lo- your shape but are you ready for the grind baby. Yeah i'm ready. I'm ready now. What'd you tease us a little bit of what's going to be happening tomorrow. When you go yeah i said it live. One of the popular things that we've heard in this camp is chemistry chemistry chemistry chemistry. Everybody's waxing poetic about how the five feel so good yeah. I said it talent is still still more valuable than chemistry. 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Standard is the Standard: Are the Pittsburgh Steelers officially "back"?

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Standard is the Standard: Are the Pittsburgh Steelers officially "back"?

"Pittsburgh steeler fans going on this is Jeff Harmon editor of behind the curtain dot. Conway you for another episode of the standard the standard. And if you looked to my side here let's not Lance Williams. That's Brian Anthony Davis. WHO's filling in for Lance Williams? WanNa give it's a big shout out. Lands is now a grandfather yes lance Williams is now grandfather. WanNa give a shout out to his grandson Niger. mims out of its on. CBS Out of the West Coast lands is going to visit the newest addition to his family. So congrats to him. Big Shout out to the new steeler fan born into the cloth and with that my curse tonight Brian. How's it going Brian? I am so glad caught up to the show this is. This is a big deal for me. I in fact the family got me a cake when they found out I was doing the show tonight. Well you know what The old time he said that the last time he told him for Lance we used to do the steelers hangover together. That was way back in the blog. Talk Radio days and it's good to kind of get back to our roots a little bit and so the we're going to get to the title of this episode not right away but I wanNA tease it a little bit and that is our the steelers steelers officially back. It isn't alive Chad. You can obviously China in whatever you like but if we're going to answer this in a little bit Before we get into you where the steelers are going. Let's talk about where they came from now their form for the obviously simple math. That's eight-game halfway through. I want to go through some midseason grades with you or some awards Brian. Are you ready for that. Yes I am very good. So let's go with. Who would be your midseason ofensive most valuable player? This is a tough one because the offense hasn't been good no it it has it in their the twenty eighth ranked offense but for me. It's none other than James Connor and more James Connor the receiving running back Jack but even in the last game when not the less can be played against Miami hundred fifty total yards hundred and forty five on the ground uh-huh so he showed that he was able to go ahead and really control a game with his feet in the run game. The ground game was so much better. I think he's the guy that has kept Mason Rudolph from falling apart which he possibly could have. There's really no receivers to give it to there's really. We're not really giving it to Mason at this point you might but I I really like James Connor for this role. He we know you took the player I was gonNA say. I think that maybe you could say dude injury. jalen samuels by wouldn't go that far. Maybe the offensive line in pass protection because they have cabinet Mason Rudolph Clean That's been a huge factor in at least him checking the ball down James Corner. He's had time to do that so I I'll go with since just to change it up and say something different. I'll go with the offensive line and pass protection. They have a lot left to be desired. I feel like in a run blocking but in terms of pass protection. I like the nose. Go the defensive side this is a tough one because the defense has been really really good so for the first eight Games hoosier defensive. MVP at the midway point. Well you can put it so many places and I'm not going to say who I would have because I don't WanNa steal any thunder. I'm probably stealing your funder because I really think it's an obvious one. I think it's T.. J. Watt I actually think he could actually be a defensive player of the year But there are three or four other guys that I would consider on that defense to. I actually believe it or not if you were saying TJ. Because he thought that I was going to say like Mingka. Patrick I would have said TJ. I and it's basically because TJ watts body of workshop continues to get better and better make his. Patrick obviously didn't play the steelers and the first two weeks but has been a really dominant force in the back end and since he showed up. I think it's kind of one. A one. B would. She agree with these guys. Yeah I really Minka Fitzpatrick what he did. He came in stabilized that that defense when he came in in week. Three had that interception right away that all of a sudden the defense is playing so much better to me. It's not a not a coincidence. There's another another guy that I would shout out and really go back to what you said. I was actually. I was stealing thunder. I was taking Tj all the way. Because that's quite thought was the number one guy so I was just stealing them. But there's another guy that I would throw in as a huge honorable mention and it's Alvin Bud Yeah absolutely. Do I have to call him stud to free now for the rest of the season because he is he got more than one sack against. That often offensive line of the Indianapolis Colts last week. So he's he's having a career year in a contract year quick sidebar here. Are you a believer in in the contract year We'll call motivation. And what I mean by that is the players that show out when they're trying to get money and when they get that money because they will they never really produced after this has nothing to do with the pre right now. The do you believe in that at all or do you think that he's just now starting to come. What is it a tiny bit but I think these are professional athletes with a lot of pride on the line and they don't want that stigma of saying? Hey I got the. He got the money money and now he's just going to just lay back and hang out. I think a guy like Bundu pre has had his twenty six sacks in his career career. So He's actually. He's not Jarvis Jones and so everybody wants to put them in that category with Jarvis Jones up a two this season and I really don't see it that way. I think you know it's a possibility but I don't think that was But all along I think do you brought it up and I actually watched the show the other day the post game and I it was either you Orlando brought it up and I love. This was the fact that I think Chris got this quote that you are quoting Chris. The fact that he He said they're just let me play my game now. And that might coincide with Joey Porter being gone and maybe Butler having more time with the outside linebackers the edge rushers but I really think that he's playing his game name. He's not overrunning anymore. I really like what he's doing. That was Christopher Carter of Pittsburgh. Sports is the one who spoke with by depre- during training McCabe. That's what he said. Immigrants to the difference between two thousand eighteen until nineteen. It almost sounded like Joey Porter was trying to turn them into tactician when he's not he's an athletic freak so let him do athletic freaky things speed rush full rush. And it's working and it's just crazy though when you look at the logistics of Joey Porter's dismissal in Keith Butler. Taking over position that he owned during the Dick Lebeau era and did a very good job. Bob Coaching the linebackers. During that time he people have realized he played linebacker in the National Football League for Seattle. So he's he knows what he's talking about and but now the sudden things have kinda turned around and you see some tremendous outside linebacker production from that group so this tax was going to be a tough one to the next Award in that is most improved player. He would you give that one to. There's a couple of names that come to my mind when I think about the best I would probably. Are we going offense. Defense can be improved okay. So there's one I want to go but for an offense but it's not as glaring as you know. We just talked about Bud DuPrey. He's really improved. But that's not who who I'm going to go with I'm looking at. Terrell Edmonds has improved a whole heck of a lot. You could also say the fact that make. If it's Patrick. Atra came in and all of a sudden in week three. He looked a whole heck of a lot better. He was not as exposed so that could have been a part of it. That's that's why Mingka's so very important but you know I'm really thinking thrill. Edmonds is a much better player than he was even week. One Edmonds is not a bad pick honestly wouldn't have gone with him. My right off the bed. Is Chris Boswell for me. I mean talk about a stark difference between two thousand US Mateen until the nineteen. I mean he has. He's only missed one. Kick this season and that was a fifty four yard her Not sure we ever did get a really good look on that kick that he missed estimate was going to be sure I know is left. I didn't know if there's going to be short as well for did have the leg and he just pulled it a little bit but still nails that fifty one yarder You know just. He's he's turned it around. He's he's back to being a you know the Chris Boswell that we need from two thousand seventeen and like you said I would put bud debris in this category two and and the one thing we forgot to mention as we just talked about two free at length. If you're just joining the show is my. Gosh he's you kind of alluded to this. He's healthy for the first time you've got to remember he. Battle that groin injury. The abdominal injury had a partially torn pack He's had some wrist issues. He's been hurt and banged up. A lot is crazy. Not dealing anything. I knocked on wood for those. That are superstitious. So who else would you put it in this category for Mason premiums. Well the guy on offense that I wanted to put on there. I mean it's really not an improvement for the fact that he's just getting a chance to shine right now and it would be Zach banner the hulk. I guess we're calling the Hawk now because he's been your boy from day one I'll give you. That's that's a guy that I loved. The Lincoln Kennedy Son and Lincoln was the first round draft pick Way Back in I believe ninety one or ninety two of the Falcons but but just a quality player and the thing I like about him is if you see on social media and what he's doing and the steelers community he's just a fantastic guy as well he's he's just one of these bright shining community stars you just love to have and he loves being in Pittsburgh he feels like he has found the hub. Then there's another guy on defense. I'll let you grab him if you want. I think I know who you'd be going with on this unless you take him. I mean I'm are they here thinking of Comfort Camp Sutton okay. I thought he had potential last year. He has played a lot better though. You're right you're right absolutely good picks and I think that there's a couple of guys like I see someone in the live chat Saint James Washington. I feel like he is on the cusp. And he's trending in the right direction. Shing better that's how I would put him up for that just yet so one more sure Mike Helton did not have a great two thousand eighteen. If you ask ask me and I really think he is playing a lot better football this year. He kind of bet on himself. Because you know that that restricted is not restricted but what he's a restricted free agent But exclusive rights restricted. Something like that but yeah I really feel like he is come on this year and become a stabilizing force with what he's been doing. So you've you have some strength on that in that secondary that you didn't even expect we have Steven Nelson coming in. which was you expected him to be? Pretty good but there's a lot of depth now and you did not have that depth before right now. It's good when you have a long list of players that could be included as the most improved player on the team or just an improving player on the team. I Ryan's are turning in the right direction. So lastly who would be your overall team. MVP At midway point at this juncture jokester. I gotTA GO BACK TO T. J. Watt. I think he has become the heart and soul of this defense and even more this team at this point. He's just he's just the most stable force on this team and he's becoming the poster child for this new Pittsburgh steelers. I agree I think. TJ What would be the team MVP. He's becoming coming the heart and soul of the team. You know not just the defense. He's becoming that the heartbeat. So I agree with you there. 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And so we for that we thank you so make sure you like this video whether it's during the show or after the show makes you like it. We really really appreciate it. Lastly Dave is in the live chat right now and he is going to be at the game on Sunday to four twenty five kickoff against the Los Angeles. We're GONNA talk about that here coming up in a little bit and he wants to do a little meet up with fans before the game so he wanted me to mention that follow him on twitter. I'm sure when he puts it in the live chat. I will post it here on the screen and he will mention where he's going to be. If you're going to the game on Sunday find him. He's a giant of a man. You can't and you were. They wanted he wants to do a live. Show of few minutes before the game about prediction thoughts and just like to meet some of the people that follow the show. Assuming pretty cool if you're going to be at the game to check him out so once he puts his twitter Hampshire is probably like two hundred fifty characters Hello I saw the last one Jeff. I the one he did. It made me want to just go out there and it was exciting. It was fun. Dave looked more fun than he is when he hangs out with us. So now you know it's awesome so we have such a great bt SC community and we love to expand it so go hang. Hang out with Jeff I mean excuse me hang out with Dave. Don't hang out with Jeff or you can hang out with Jeff at his house. PM Address I'll take take care of that but So let's go hang out with Dave. It's a lot of fun and David I Antoni. Were Planning on doing this. In December for for big one so I start thinking of really cool things for that December Fifteenth L. Gate 'cause we're coming in and I'm hungry there you go. That's that's awesome zillow guys. Do Shift away from the team awards in. Let's go to grades from this past game in Dave just put his. Oh my gosh. It's the same as busy now. Often steeler fan husband dead nineteen eighty-seven dot COM loving steelers. Taylor's Yes so S. T. l.. Are Short for Steeler Superfan. Dad that's his twitter handle there you go so S. T. L. RC. To prevent add. You have to follow him on twitter if you don't follow him on twitter. I told him that he should send me a text before. The Games ahead. Just in out the tweet I'll I'll go on the behind the steel curtain twitter feed which has a lot more followers than him. And then I'll re tweeted serve. You see that they get it that way so there you go there. They're trying to confiscate his helmet a couple times at at the one game assuming he's very protective of that helmet. Yeah so that's that's the thing they I'm trying to make him go back to his car. Province gate the helmet because he can't have his face covered in which is really odd August. People have Halloween masks. So there you go but like each of the last couple of times. He went into the one gate. They're trying to take his helmet. But you can't take his star wars helmet. That would kill him. Probably would literally okay Brian. Let's go back. You talked a lot about this Colts game with breath. Tony on the hangover on Monday But I want to just go back and kind of get your thoughts on. Grey's you do the grade report for behind steel curtain DOT com. Sometimes I feel like and I know you said this before that. You don't have a lot of time to really think about it. You're just trying to get the article done because it's going to run the next day and I want to go over some grades for specific players. Now want to see what grade you would give them you do it by offense defense special teams etc.. I wanted to ski skin. Your great What are your thoughts on? Jayjay she sir. You know what really I'm not giving you a pass on this. At all in the grade read column I put him in the requires improvement. The I didn't really I don't give him detention anymore. I just say requires improvement because it's Kinda gentler bad but I thought first of all the interception look I know. We're not trying to coddle Mason Rudolph but the really wasn't Mason Rudolph fault on that that one interception. Now there's a couple of balls. James Washington caught. That should have been intercepted So I'm not giving mason a pass either but what I'm saying on that particular throw in that first drive Juju I mean that looks like Moncrieff. It's just like boop up in the air. I mean that was that could have killed them right off the bat and so that's one of those stats when you look at stats. You pin the interception on Mason Rudolph. But that's not his ball. I'll also like to see almost like to see a stat that says you know interceptions caused but that gets the whole nother dimension. But so. We're not doing that but what I'm saying is Juju did not look great at all so I could really give him a C minus for I mean. I felt like he wasn't getting open. There's a a couple of times. He just looked lackadaisical and I know he's not I know he plays with heart and fire and Mike Tomlin came out and said Judas so much more that you don't even know and I agree with that but if I'm looking just straight I test I'm saying that's that's that's a really rough game one of the worst games I've ever seen them play. I'm not worried about it. I don't think it's GonNa Continue. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown unfocused your avengers of college football podcast. It says in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean is it's already spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from. I'm cooking disasters to pro wrestling. Too unfashionable pants worn middle school. We also do talk about college. Football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the with early. And unfashionable. Pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken. Subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts S.. or in your favorite podcast APP. Yeah I agree with your grade of a C. minus I thought that's very appropriate for him but but again there's a lot of stuff that you don't see for instance moments where he might have beat his one on one coverage and for whatever reason maybe pressure maybe it was was just he was just checking the ball down the already gotten rid of the football mason. Rudolph didn't find him. So it's tough to grade receivers. 'cause you're still relying on other players now. Let's talk about a position. Addition does not require anyone's help in that is I guess the offensive line and that's Mason. Rudolph he was headed another up and down performance. But what would you agree. Am I'm probably going to Give Him just a little bit higher grade but not much Straight see on that Let us SCO head. Give him about if we're going to go to college here. We'll say seventy five percent so he'd be right in the middle just one of those games where I like the fact that he went deeper and he's finding himself going downfield. It's it doesn't look like those passing charts from the early Games when when the offense coordinator rainy feet and I was coming out and saying well. He's afraid to downfield. We want him to go down field. I still don't buy that but what I'm saying is I think he's getting his confidence and he's doing a whole lot more. I thought there's some pass someplace that he looked poised on. But there's some that he just I mean their place that he just did not look good at all so I would just say an average. I'm not even GonNa say below average just about about a see. That's exactly the great. I gave him in our post game show and Lance Nance asked me that question. I thought that there was good. There's still some bad that's going to happen you know. This is a young quarterback. He's not gonNA have. I do expect Tim to have at least one game. And I would say it's GonNa come up sooner than later that he has a good game. Ah Game where we say. Wow this might be the the potential that we've been talking about for so long but this was not his game to do that He had too many blips on the radar. And you know what Jeff you you know and everybody in the live chat. Don't bring out the comparisons between he and Ben Rothlisberger because his stats are better than Roethlisberger's rookie. I understand that and we were. We could probably say this about Ben's rookie year two with up and down games but who I liked to compare him to a little bit with the way he's starting out and and what I see from him in the future because I I see great things from this guy in the future but kind of reminds me a little bit of Neil O'Donnell because if you yeah okay you're GonNa do that but if you look at Neil O'Donnell stats ninety-one ninety-two. When they were eleven and five? I haven't shocked the world and cowers first season to go to the playoffs. They were the number one seed. Actually the playoffs Looking really good Before they blow it the bills twenty four to three at home. I'm still not over that but O'Donnell his I mean like an average passing game for him was like one hundred and seventy five yards yards. And then you look at the O'Donnell from the Super Bowl Year of ninety five and he was upper twos in the threes he was. He's doing so much more. So these young quarterbacks and we forget he's only started five games in the pros but these guys have to go through their progressions. I don't know why I'm doing that with my hand. Walking up steps I guess but you just have to elevate they need time. We're so spoiled because because we had fifteen years of Ben Rothlisberger and of course we're GONNA forget the first couple years of Ben Rothlisberger when he was and I heard you say this when he he was a gay manager when he was when he was learning his learning his trade as well. But Neil O'Donnell is the third he is the the third ranked passing in passing leaders in Pittsburgh steeler history and he had some good years for us. Forget about what happened in the superbowl. Forget about him being a sell out all that stuff the mafia by forget all about that that stuff what I just remember where he was and where he ended up as being a appro passer I could see that with Mason Rudolph with not the extra stuff that the bad stuff that we remember about. O'Donnell that we're forgetting about some of the good stuff. But this is not about O'Donnell this is just what Rudolph can do. And so it's GonNa take time for him to grow into the upper echelon of a quarterback but he could do that. I guess for me when everyone loves to talk about Mason Rudolph whether you love him or whether you have reservations about him it all comes down to your expectations of him and I don't look at him as some people when they think of the heir apparent to Ben Rothlisberger they think I I think. Sometimes they're kind of brainwashed into thinking he's like a top pick. The Guy was a third round draft pick you know he was not a teams first round draft. Pick in so with that. That right away should temper. Your expectations is a little bit and realized that this guy fell to the third round for reason now we all thought those are very good value. Pick at the time but at the same time he wasn't a day one draft pick and so with that again. Set your expectations there. Secondly he's only started five games in his entire life so I don't understand where people were time he's reading the field. Well Blah Blah Blah. He doesn't have the anticipation he's got three receivers open. There's a very small. All amounts of quarterbacks that have played football the national football league to walk in the door. I could do that right away. And then some people said I got an email from someone this past week. After the post game show said well. Oh my gosh of Mason Rudolph what did you not playing college. Playing against defenses Have you watched big twelve football. Recently there is no defense defense literally. There's basically they're playing seven on seven football big twelve. I want to say one year heads zero defensive players drafted in the national football league so when he played it Oklahoma state in the big twelve. No there wasn't a lot of defense that he had awad. They really focus on so he used to put all this together. And so is he the the answer at the quarterback position when RAF asperger's done. I'm GONNA follow the. I'M GONNA tow the company line if I worked the steelers and save what Mike Tomlin said. We don't know yet we don't know he's played five games. He's been up he's been down. We don't know yet period so I I liked base and Rudolf. I think he's very hey good professional. He handles himself well. I think he has the look of an. NFL quarterback but at the same time no one knows no one knows. And that's kind of what's really intriguing about this season for me. Is that every week when you go into it. You have the prospect of seeing something like wow this is this could be really good it you know so. We'll see Brian. What are your thoughts? My thoughts exactly. We need to see him grow. And you know you you brought up big twelve. I watched a lot of West Virginia Games over the years. Defense is I don't even know where they get these guys to play defense and they make in these receivers are so much better so let's let them grow and let's remember that there's a learning curve. A this is the number one pressure position in football. You're called a quarterback for a reason so I mean so he comes in you you. Everything else is as a quarterback on defense. He's the quarterback of the power. Play at hockey Everybody's talking about the quarterback in business. He's our quarterback quarterback is the leader leader. It takes a while you just don't come in after five games and light the world on fire and if you do a lot of time. It's not sustainable. So so these are the growing pains. This is he's the Mike seaver right now of the National Football League. And if you don't know who Mike seaver is. He's from Kirk Cameron from growing pains. And I'M NOT GONNA go into the theme song I know a lot of a lot of you WanNa hear me sing. I'm not going to do that but I'm just saying let them grow. And realize that the you have a potential really good player and so we'll see the two thousand nineteen season season. If I were to sum it up in the one word it's intriguing. It's the trend. And that's that's it for me. And I say that as a website editor and writer because intriguing bins traffic. At times you know there's different facets of this season Ben Rothlisberger goes down Mason. Rudolph comes in they trade for makeup. It's Patrick David Bush. They traded up to get him in house he playing. There's a lot of intriguing factors on this team but debris now suddenly bouncing back and showing. What he's capable of of Chris? Boswell literally bouncing back at me. It's easy and so it'll be interesting to see Doing a savings of five five dollars and a tip jar from X.. Any be says his Rudolph just needs to be good not great. We have to pay the defense I I I would agree with that. They don't need Mason Rudolph to go out there and win most games. What they have to do is hope that he goes out there and doesn't lose games and I think that's the offense in philosophy from Ray beefeater probably passed down from Mike Tomlin when it comes to the game plan and I think the Brian you and I both agree that were hoping that that slowly changes that the see release get a little bit longer with Mason Rudolph as the season goes on yes? We watched the lease get along with Ben Roethlisberger and every other guy that came through this system we watched the leash. Be taken off of a guy like Terry Bradshaw and put back on the bench before he finally got it together so quarterbacks just a different animal well into a you saw against the colts in week nine they come out into no they around the no huddle. They moved the ball down the field rather quickly and then all of a sudden they go away from it in wisit they never revisit the no huddle again on. My guess is that they practice that sequence. They got the ball first. They ran the no huddle it was effective. Hopefully it's one of those situations -tuation where the this is kind of like. Wow that works. Maybe we can revisit that use that as a as another weapon in our arsenal so to speak steeler fan number seventy four ses. Jeff do you think the offensive scheme still needs. Adapt to Mason. Yes and no I mean at this point in time. I think that where he is in his career. You have a good feel for what he can't do well In other words right now throwing between the numbers down the field is the struggle for him. So you're not gonNA dial Kawada passes but it doesn't mean that eventually he won't get there. I think what they should be doing. Now is getting comfort a rainy feet or should have a good comfort for level with Basic Rove is for what he likes to do. Running plays out of shotgun running plays in the red zone that are added this formation. It's that's where I'm hoping to see. The offense continue the trend and it has trended in the right direction. They knew the ball better. The only issue was recently at the Red Zone as they've struggled and I love my Tomlin Onlin that his question was during the press conference on. Tuesday what is the reason reasoning behind these red zone issues and he started. He's really rewards. Because you don't have your starting quarterback out there you know. That's one of the reasons event. Rothlisberger is a fifteen year veteran. And he's seen all the different defensive alignments indeed defensive coverages and he knows what plays GonNa work here and all that whereas Mason Rudolph does not that so I think that the offense sense does need a Taylor around what Rudolf does but I feel like they should already have that Gio Brian. What are your thoughts on that? I think it's getting better but I think the the The offense needs to adapt the two thousand nineteen. And what is this run. Run Pass late in the game. Run run pass run run pass. Yes predictable won't thirty eight. Wow I bet she's going to pass the ball on third and eight in the red zone so that's kind of. I still think it's unimaginative times but I think they're doing a lot better tailoring to Mason Rudolph game so I'm not complaining about that anymore. I just still want some imagination. I think it's still aww generic I think sometimes a thirteen year old playing madden. Could come up with a more imaginative game plan. Then what Randy Femur Hitler does not a Randy Feeder fan at all. No because he was never a hired to be anything more than a quarterback coach. Jeff he is not the offensive coordinator. There was hired the offensive coordinator is Ben Rothlisberger. And now he's not. They didn't even interview view anybody. They didn't even post the job. It was just like okay. We got our Haley's gone. We've got our new. Oh See. That's that's who ben wanted and we have to keep the franchise is quarterback happy now Benz hurt. And now you have a guy that is generic. I don't WANNA use Vanilla. Vanilla is very rich flavor. I don't even want to call this vanilla because I love something. Vanilla Vanilla Coke is awesome but ice cream is actually pretty good especially French for in our at this point. This guy is not vanilla. That's too nice to Koa. He's generic he is blah. He's land. He's he's watching English Downton Abbey with my mother-in-law that's what he is he's boring. It's tough to I can't disagree with you. I can't disagree with you. I I definitely do think that they need to have. I wouldn't say fire the guy would you. I called for it on a point counterpoint. Not Too far back dude. You know I know they're not going to go out and get whizzing hunt. I know they're not going to go ahead and make a change L. style but let's go back in time to two thousand thousand twelve. I believe it was and Cam. Cameron was the offensive coordinator of the Baltimore. Ravens after week. Ten or eleven seven. I believe it was it was around Thanksgiving. It was pretty late They fired cameron. And they brought in Jim Caldwell and won a super bowl So there there's there's a president that it works. I just don't think this guy is a good offense grinner whatsoever. I think he's was a fantastic test. A quarterback coach. I thought he was a good mentor to Ben Rothlisberger. I think he has value just like. Hey we're seeing we're seeing Keith Butler. Bler he's helping out right now. He's the defensive quarter recorded enter but is he or is he the outside linebacker coach. What is he? We Know Austin's in the house. What is he? We don't really know but we know we have an offensive coordinator right now. That's really not because you think he was calling those plays as I was going to those plays and that's going back to my old rant. I just say maybe it's time he's a super nice guy but maybe it's time to go ahead cut the ties on that. Because if I'm not doing my job at my real job they're going to go ahead and say hey we're gonNA bring in somebody that's actually going to do the job just because somebody likes me isn't enough to keep me. I could be a great guy at work until really funny jokes around the water cooler but at the end of the day. If I'm not producing I gotta go. Now you're right. Maybe he is on the hot seat a little bit and it'll be interesting to see. I don't think they're going to do anything. MIDSEASON although although I think but At the end of the season you know how do they. He might be pinned to to Ben. In other words Ben's future and feeders teacher feature might be tied hand in hand. So let's talk a little bit about the upcoming game coming up this Sunday. Four twenty five eastern time Los Angeles Rams mm travel across country on the steelers are eleven and five hundred Tom. I believe playing West Coast teams at home in the most recent game. It was a loss to the Seattle seahawks losses. They have Brian. I believe that they have. I believe to inside joke. Oh give what is zoned out last week preview but yeah the Seattle seahawks have two losses and they still have two losses. I WANNA go over the injury. Sure report quickly. This show is recorded on Wednesday. So you're listening to it on Thursday or Friday. This is an old injury report but this is the one we have right now The following players did Nov practice but because of injury several that were not injured related. There need to talk about Roosevelt. Next did not practice with the knee. Mark Barron those. Not Injured Related Benny snow with Andy. We knew about that. Trey edmunds at the bridge. Did Not practice and Ryan switched over. The back did not practice. I've got a hunch Brian I've got a hunch that we might have seen the last of Ryan Switzer this season really. I don't know what it I. Read an article on the Tribune interview. One of the The rookie of the practice squad running back they brought up this past week has done returning has been returning kicks. I guess he has experienced return. Or Man Brooks James. I think it is something like that something like that but I I'm thinking to myself okay. He's returning kicks in practice. This switzer's little banged up. They're going to need the running back hell because we know that Trey Edmunds item. Might not be ready. Maybe maybe Switzer goes on injured reserve with this Phantom backslash ribs injury and that's the end of the season and maybe it's time that this I don't know maybe I'm I'm I am kind of in conclusion mode today just like I also the conclusions they signed Sutton Smith to the practice squad today. They did it for or a fullback not for linebacker They're Asante because Roosevelt next missed practice with the knee. Mike Tomlin's Eddie aggravated his knee. They WANNA have a full back on the roster. They don't have a fullback on the roster. He has experience in their system. Elise the small amount being full-back said they bring him back and if they have to promote they promote it. And if you need to promote him you give Ryan Switzer on injured reserve builder. Yeah now I just saw this dealers problems let me ask you. I love that I mean actually. That is very wise in fact if you can do that for baseball you can hire you for the pirates. Tyrant's the general manager. I I would actually vote for that. Let me ask you a question about this whole Sutton Smith thing because I really read into what today was he left. Go from Jacksonville or did he. They sign him off. Jacksonville's practice squad and he's available. There was no report of them There was no report of he was being taken off another team's practice squad. Hello Listener. I'm Sean Ramos. Firm host of today explained Fox's Daily News podcast every day Monday through Friday. My team and I look at what's happening in the world. We pick one essential news story that defines our moment and as smart people to help us understand it in about twenty minutes or less. It's the perfect way to start or end your day subscribed today explained for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP. It's from stitcher and the VOX media. PODCAST network okay. Very interesting as far as Switzer Goes Jeff. Look I think he is a very reliable guy with the ball in his hands. You know he's not GonNa Muffin. You don't expect him to. He's very short handed. But somebody on the live Chat Kota Mr go nowhere. And that's really what he is and I I know you know I was passionate about the whole maybe to passionate about the whole Deontay Spencer thing with my twenty minute rant on why they cut this guy. He's going to be a superstar but he had another nice kickoff return for Denver the other day. And it's IT'S A or was it a punt return but the thing is you know you need to. You can't be. He's starting at the twenty-five every single time when other teams are starting around the thirty five. That's I mean that's the position that I know they might be getting rid of it they might be getting rid of kick returns in the future but for right now still have it. You need to be viable that position. And that's I mean every week in the Grades Jeff. All I'm writing is on special teams like Barry had another great week. Averaging forty nine yards of Boswell was four for four four some nice punt coverage but as far as I write it every week. I don't even change anymore as far as the return game. It's invisible. Yeah and I write that. I don't know if you catch it. I don't even have to change it. It's invisible. There's nothing and if there is a slight return there's a hold so it drives me absolutely crazy and I think the fact that he doesn't have a lot of speed also makes it easier to hold for the you commit a whole because he doesn't have a whole lot of speed so you know I'm I'm just thinking as far as that goes Switzer's not doing anything. Somebody just wrote that. He was so much more effective with Ben Rothlisberger. But I'm not calling effective in the New England game when he had like eight thousand catches and four we're yards. That's like Jerome. Bettis it last year three touchdowns minus one yard and this those were actual game lines for lines for Jerome. But he was a hall L. A.. Famer this guy he goes nowhere so I'm kind of I mean I don't want to see anybody lose their job but I kind of like I have an emotional stake stake in the steam and I'd like to see them actually do something when it comes to return game. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out the rest of this week. And maybe they have to juggle their roster a little bit. Maybe they don't we'll see But when you think about this I don't WanNa get too much too in depth into the game this Sunday because obviously that's our job in the preview which will air tomorrow on Youtube around nine. PM Eastern Standard Time. You want to check it out live. That's myself Bryan. and Dave Scofield When you're thinking about like okay there's a couple players a couple of matchups? That really should be highlighted circle. Red Pen whatever. What are some of those matchups players? Well you know what I don't really know who is going to be matched up against Juju Smith Schuster. I'm almost thinking it is a guy like Jalen Ramsey. But if I'm going to look at a guy on defense that I'm kind of wary the of it's Jalen Ramsey and I feel like he is still in shutdown mode and if if Juju had a lackluster game last week. I'm thinking going up against a guy like Ramsey and that tough ram secondary might be a little tough. So that's kind of a match up that I kind of look at and then the number one. It's Aaron Donald Against the offensive line. Wherever this guy is leading up be careful because he will? We'll kill Ya. He's a game record period. He can wreck the whole game plan. I think that's where you start is obviously Aaron Donald. But I'm going to say that for me. It's if the steelers have any chance in this game it may do a chance. I really do think they're good enough to compete. Appear with anybody in the National Football League you. They'RE GONNA have to pressure Goff. They're going to have to keep doing what they've been doing it. He'll throw some bad add. He'll make some bad decisions and he will struggle if you hit him hit him early and often and so the can continue doing what they've been doing in terms of getting pressure sacking the quarterback. The pressure has resulted in a lot of interceptions and turnovers. If they can do that I think they have a chance but if they they can't get home for whatever reason and they haven't trying to think Brian Missouri gain didn't get a sack this season I think at least had one in every game may have had one in every game. Yes he only gets rivers once they hit him a bunch I believe they sacked New England. Brady and New England wants to so the defense is different. This defense is different than the weak on defense but CAM. Kelly started that game. That's all I have to say about the so for me. I mean if they can get to golf and the Stop the running game. THAT'S A BIG ONE UTAH. girly can you talk about Aaron Donald Kentucky game so can grow if he gets going and as my Thomas said he's off five five yards equip. That's tough that's really tough. So Oh the rams struggle in pass protection. That's something that's been known all season. So that's one of the steelers really focused on I'm not sure if the spread is now is the steelers. Were getting three and a half points. The last I saw. That's the last I saw. Okay so what is your pretty. Did you hold your prediction for tomorrow. Or because you know what I I will unless Lance doesn't I I mean if Lance doesn't I did but I'll go ahead and give it I'll give my prediction. You can hold your do you want to say and I'll I'll say it again tomorrow night. They'd Brian actually picked the score of last week's game. Get Addicted to score. He's twenty six twenty four and I remember thinking myself twenty six twenty. What Twenty six twenty six? What's his thinking thinking to yourself? You were quite vocal. That's ridiculous score you ages blasted me twenty twenty six. It's ridiculous I'm like well I mean they're gonNA have trouble against that colts defense and then you've got four field goals from Boswell I at this point I'm like all right. I set it on the one show so I had to put it on the burning question then I had to go ahead and put it in the article. The bottom bizarre predictions so I was married to it so when that happened. Bend it like six minutes left. We gotta taxed from Dave Scofield. You and I got one. He's like oh no and I was like yeah. That's right boys because as much as I went the steelers to win I want this twenty six to twenty four. Because I'm never gonNA. They'd never let me hear the end of the touchdown zone and the seahawks two losses. Though I need something in the football Karma Guy Gods came down helped me out on this one so I got lucky. I mean I never gonNa do it again. I last time in my life. I did a defensive touchdowns I got that right but I was twenty four to twenty last week and I was wrong. Oh now I know that for those of you that listen to the standards of standard every week and hopefully a lot of you that are chiming in right. Now do a couple of weeks ago Oh lance and I looked at this three-game stretch at home and we kinda gave our predictions how we thought things were Gonna go go during this stretch and this is the game that I said I could see this year's losing based on the fact that I felt that the rams were a team that could turn it into a shootout and the steelers are not equipped to get in that type of game. Things can obviously change between a few weeks ago now and they sears. They said legitimately have and so I. I know I'm going to recall homer and I've never said that I'm not a homer but I'm GonNa Change my pig in this game. It revenue stated the steelers. Win this game Based on their defense is that that much better than it was and I think that day showed me so much last week. No it wasn't perfect. They still gave up -Tuni- rushing yards for me. They couldn't get off the field. But I feel like this is a game against the Rams Rams disturbed that the Kinda finesse team and I feel like they are a team that is not going to go out and punch you in the mouth. The colts were kind of that team with Marlin MAC in a big offensive line. And Jacoby Bruce said but this. This team doesn't have that it was brain cokes. Already voted out because of a concussion. This week that's one must weapon you have to worry about steals have enforced at Nat area considering T. Y.. Hilton play last last week. No brandin cooks this week. I think the steelers are actually going to shock the world in beat this team and I'm GonNa go with a score of of I think they're gonNA put up. Let's see here China to go. Brian Davis here is my score prediction. I'M GONNA say Thirty Burner Score Thirty points thirty to twenty four. They win. I think Mason Rudolph has a good game. It's is Jalen Ramsey GonNa Shadow juju Smith Schuster wherever he goes. If I'm randy feeding her and we just chastise the crap out of him a few minutes ago or Brian did I would put him in the slot almost primarily if jalen emails ever Jalen Ramsey is not going to follow him to the inside. Put Him on the inside. BECAUSE ADOBE ODA get yards area. You'll be able to move the ball so I think the steelers are I really fake. They're on the cusp offensively. At least on the cost and I think did from a running game if they get James. cornerback Jalen Samuels is healthy. So there's your change of pace back because he's proven thirteen catches last week. I like the steelers others to win at home in cap off of really tremendous homestand of three straight wins. Actually before straight wins and five of their last six. I think that they win advanced the five four their first time over five hundred and for Brian Prediction. You'RE GONNA have to tune in tomorrow night on the steelers preview to find out what that is Kinda like like that tees are a little bit you know so. Subscribe to find out what time we're going to be on. That's true yeah. A lot of people are asking. I get emails all the time about our podcast and someone said you want to. I never know what you guys are doing online low. It's there's pretty much a standard schedule for the most part. Most of our shows are on about You know nine pm or roughly around there. Brian shows a little bit earlier on Monday. But other than that. I mean if you subscribe to the channel. You'll get a notification whether it's an email whether it's a push-button notification your phone that this channel is going live so you don't miss a thing so for me. I think the steelers win. What are you all think I want to see what the live chat it says? What are your predictions? And I WANNA see a score and I WANNA see exactly how you see this thing going down Let's see here as will does not believe it. He's as you think rated Rudolph scoring on Ramsey. This is a game you need ban in a be these games for star players. Here's here's my answer to that. Jalen Ramsey is one player. Okay and so yeah he might take out one player but at the same time. There's other options the steelers. It's GONNA be tough. I'm not saying it's going to be easy but I absolutely think did the steelers are capable. You Re with that right. Yeah I I really do. I'm drinking the KOOL aid. I really think that. And you know the The question on the show that the show was are these guys starting to be for real well and I hope I didn't steal any thunder there but this is the game that's going to tell you if they're for real and the rams are not the rams that were in the Super Bowl last year they do have some dangerous weapons they have a guy who wasn't in the Super Bowl but And that's cooper cop but because he was injured he's the guy that I feel. You need to stop but sure they add Jalen Ramsey. But you're exactly right where there's other places that that they can go here and I really think that this is a team that is coming alive at the right time with chips on their shoulder a lot to prove so I really like what version of the Pittsburgh steelers. We have right now if they lose this game. Do you think that it's You said and you said that if they win this game they're back but you think there's a way that they could lose this game and still show you that they're back absolutely You if you don't get murdered in this game and you put up. Jeff what if you lose twenty seven twenty four on a last second kick against against a very solid Los Angeles Rams team that means that the kind of back in I'll go back to. Let's let's look at the Baltimore Game. They were to to me. They were they had that game. Basically one in overtime some really questionable things happen then. You had the devastating field goal. They really had had a team. That's still undefeated in San Francisco. They had them beaten. They had the two loss Seattle seahawks beaten and things happened happened. Things happen in all of them but they happen because they lost them but they were on the cusp of winning all of those games. So if if you lose this game by a field goal or even four but you're in it the whole time that doesn't mean you're out especially in the AFC. A lot of people have forgotten and that they are now the number seven seed in the AFC six seeds go in. And you have you own an attack breaker over one of the teams ahead of you in the wild card race. And that's the Indianapolis Colts you go head to head against the buffalo bills that have some really tough games aims coming up themselves so you know look at it you. This is not going to kill you. They're not an opponent where this threat level midnight midnight to lose this game like it was a few weeks back however they can still be back and what I'm seeing right now is the answer. The show is yeah. They're back in the equation. They're not back as a number one seed super bowl favorite. Because they're definitely not but what they are is. They're now in the equation. Were looking their way and go like look here they come. And what did we hear all of last year at the end in the playoffs offs. They're like wow of Pittsburgh got in. They could have been the most dangerous team in the playoffs last year. With the way they were trending but not but that was before everything fell apart with Mr third and fifth and everything happening but they could have been very dangerous if the if they had gotten in. So yeah I would say they're back. Yeah and so. I think that Ken Says It. What best here? He said still waiting for the flagship game for Mason. I guess I ki- banking on that. I feel there's going to be a game. You think back to Ben's rookie season. He had those two games against Philli and the Patriots did. Did you really kind of hang your hat on and say that was. That was a great game. I'm waiting for that. I'm waiting for those games. Maybe it won't have it. Maybe it will either Cornell this could be one of them. You're at home Thursday game at home. You have gotten rid of the cobwebs of figuratively and literally from the concussion. And and I feel like this is this is a good chance for him to actually prove himself wholesale. He can do it so Brian before we call it a show anything else to add to her. Sadist insulation steeler nation. I love you. I think this is the game where we find out exactly who we are. Also I want to correct something that was on the live chat a compliment towards me about my awesome. What my awesome old school? SAGO CHARGERS JERSEY. That is not so so I just WANNA go ahead and show this off. I'm from Johnstown. Everybody knows and if you slap shot and you know hockey the charlestown chiefs. This movie was filmed in Johnston Awesome. This is my Paul. Newman Reggie Dunlop Jersey. So I'm Rockin some slapshot and Salute Ajay town. The flood city. The johnstown are actually had an E. C. E. C. H. L. team the Johnstown chiefs and They played against they played against my wheeling thunderbirds growing up. All the time had season tickets deal which was a lot of fun to go see. And who was the coach of the Johnstown chiefs their second season in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight for a few years i. I can't think of that. His name was Steve Carlson. You might know him. Better as Steve Hansen number seventeen the Hanson brothers. He probably coach coach Johnston legitimate coach. They they took the Carolina Thunderbirds. One thousand nine hundred nine. I was a senior in high school. Could I went to all the games to the the seventh game. If for the title also. Carlson went onto coach. Bishop mccart which is is the The Catholic Highschool in Johnstown most famous for a very famous steeler alumnus. Jack Ham went bishopscourt and so he coached them to four straight titles in the early two thousands. So something very interesting there. If we're I digress. We're getting onto hockey. Everybody everybody if you love football you still love slapshot. I mean it's a guy's guy people that have been watching Youtube. No that I wear appeared painted under these all the time during shows and stuff so you have a big hockey guy which by the way the easy H. L. Cup at that time was the Raleigh Cup and the wheeling thunderbirds waiver to claim that cup. I think in ninety two ninety three is a really fun year. That year did not even thunderbirds anywhere. They're called the wheeling Naylor's the Thunderbird name was sold. And here's the thing. The birds were the Carolina thunderbirds. The team. That I just mentioned the chiefs for the title visit. Is this regret games. I as a as a young does an adolescent. We as he's tickets and I can name all the players and the TV show now is insane. Got Teams in Vegas and Old Hawaii. What they have a Hawaiian? I mean there's one anchorage to that's IT Really I. It was such a goon league. It was amazing back in when the chiefs came in in January of eighty eight when they came back and they named him because of the Charlestown chiefs and they came in. It was just all fights in crazy. He's just and we would go all the time because it was cheap. You go for about six bucks you would get great seats and it was just so fun. And we I watched slapshot a million billion times Growing up it was the ABC movie of the Week my parents taped it on a Beta vhs was so it was like everything was the ex touted. I didn't find out how awesome it wasn't much later but I mean I live that movie and I I mean I was actually at the filming. My mom was an extra and I was at the final game. But I have no recollection of it whatsoever but I was in the stands as a child as I was for the Tom Cruise movie. All the right moves at age. Eleven was in the stands for that. I'm not visible. And like I said I had no recollection of the first game. But I still know that I was there because my my mom says I I saw my mom I could see my mom but Really interesting I talked about E. C. H. L. Back in the day I remember those the game against team which I don't know if he noticing the Columbus chill the wheeling and there was a bench clearing brawl at the end of regulation joy. Asian game was over goalies. Were fighting.

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Steelers Post-Game: Breaking down the improbable comeback win over the Bengals

Behind the Steel Curtain

40:48 min | 2 years ago

Steelers Post-Game: Breaking down the improbable comeback win over the Bengals

"Pittsburgh, Steeler fans welcome back to other episode of the Steelers postgame show on Jeff Hartmann editor of behind the curtain dot com with me has always, but new and improved. I guess you could say is my mast co host Lance Williams for those that are not watching on YouTube, you're missing out lands house ago. We day we saw. All I gotta say we day. So if you guys listen to last week's program, Jeff agreed to stay clean shaven until they lost. So I figure was good for the goose is good for the gander. So I went male, my scarce, but Pittsburgh Steeler style Luce libra. You like it you guys like the look? Yes, yes, we'd, we'd. Yes, that is correct. So if you haven't figured it out yet and you're listening to the show, the Steelers win twenty eight, twenty one in rather in my opinion on improbable fashion based on the fact that with about one minute and thirty seconds media little bit less than that, the Pittsburgh Steelers surrender the go ahead touchdown, Joe Mixim plunges into the end zone and Steelers had all three timeouts. Didn't even need them marched down the field when they're in Chris boswell's field goal range Antonia around said, I got this takes RPO pass across the middle. They were the Katamon a blitz. It was the perfect play call and he's off to the races game over Steelers, win there. Now, three, two and one they head into the by week. I think they're going to need to buy week that was a very physical football game. Vaunt burbot was back to his shenanigans. We'll talk about that in a second, and we're going to break down everything that's going on with the black and gold as they now head. As I said, ended the bye week in terms of where they are the division in excetera Lance, I, what your knee-jerk reaction to this. What do you think of what was your first initial thoughts after the game? Jerk reaction is hopefully listeners you don't hear the fire alarm in my house going off, but if you do, that's my knee jerk reaction that the Steelers are on. You're all fire plans, solid football. Think about when I think about the game and me and my dad were watching again, it's starting to look better. We're starting to get some consistent performances on the defense. They're starting to play a cleaner brand of football. You know, you still have some head scratchers and some drives where you wish they would place better defense. However, you know, but it is what it is, but as the alarm rings in the background, if you hear it, the Steelers are on. Going into the by three, two in one. Through one and she head and take care of that. I'm gonna talk about some stats here in the meantime, and let's go and let's breakdown. These statistics here is hopefully Lance. His house is not on fire. Ben Rothlisberger finishes the day thirty two for forty six rather efficient day from Big Ben. He finishes with three hundred sixty nine yards. Average eight yards per reception. One touchdown pass that was the game winner day in Tokyo Brown zero. Interceptions was not sacked once with a rating of one hundred point, seven that was a pretty solid of evening or I should say a day for Ben Rothlisberger. Now let's go to the running game. James. Connor had nineteen carries a Lance. We talked about this a lot on Wednesday show about whether he would get twenty carries. I said he would outright. I was really close. He got nineteen ended up with one hundred and eleven yards. Rushing. Average five point eight yards per rush, two touchdowns in a long run of twenty six yards. But it gets better go to receiving juju Smith Schuster leads the Steelers, seven receptions for one hundred eleven yards averaging fifteen point. Nine per reception did not get in the end zone. I thought he should have when he took that ball Denard hands, but he didn't. He had ten targets on the on the day. That's a seventy percent catch rate. That's pretty solid. Antonio Brown. I tweeted this out and lands. I'll give you a second here to let me know what you think about this. I said that the Ben Rothlisberger Antonio Brown connection is changing. It reminds me of Barry Sanders in any one of those alive when berries Anders played. You would know that it was. He was a player that it seemed like we got a bottled up for three quarters and all of a sudden, boom, he kill you, and that's kinda the way it was with Brown. In Ben today, he ended up with five or sections for a hundred and five yards. Twenty-one average one touchdown with a long of forty eight and he had. Only six targets. That's a really good day for him. But again, it wasn't until the second half that exploded dance McDonald had a good game. Seven catches on eight targets for sixty eight yards. Nine point, seven yards. Xavier grumble had to catches Jesse. James had five catches James. Connor with four receptions for eighteen yards on seven targets in some of those targets on the two minutes. At the end of the game, Ben was just thrown it at a to kill the clock. But here you have James. Connor, he had won eleven, rushing. He added eighteen receiving. You know, Lance before we get into the defense last week, we were absolutely murdered on the show. And after the show saying that maybe the Steelers don't need lady on Dell because James Connor sample size is so small and because he beat he did it against a very poor falcons defense. Are you still saying singing the same song? I mean, what? What are your thoughts on his performance today? Whoever said that not forget to respond or who did that and wrote debt as a comment. Look, we can all be wrong. You know, we can all be wrong. I can get it wrong. Jeff, can get it wrong. We can all get it wrong. Whoever commented about the failure podcast or whatever that just just just eat some crow men up leave a communist say we were right and you were wrong. James Connor is a very good football player. And the way it looks is that if they involve Connor into the game plan that he's going to produce, and we see today are playing the type of football that they need to play, and they play a similar fashion as they play lady on bail where lady on bail last year average close to twenty five touches a game and that's where they're getting with James. Connor, that is the type of brand of football that they need to play. Because when you look at the game booker's where although have been although been had forty six Timpson this game, James Connors number was called twenty six times twenty six, rushing attempts in the seven targets that he. And that's where you want it. That's how balances going to look on this football team. But the other thing, Jeff, we look at this step or the game book after the game. I mean, you give up two hundred yard receivers in a game and the top three receivers for the Steelers catch the ball. What is that day? At twenty four targets between Schuster McDonnell and Brown, and they caught the ball nineteen times. You're gonna lose a football game. The Steelers did their best to not win the football game, but they play just well enough down the stretch to win the game. Some curious stuff by Tomlin in a game. I thought not challenging it. There was curious at best, but you've got to trust your offense to get a yard, but overall, a solid victory on the row. Going back to Paul Brown stadium, the place where Ryan Chaisiri was hurt last year and as a side, it was fantastic seeing some of the images of Ryan Shazia break the guys down the the game, seem him walk out on the field. A note had to be very emotional for him and very emotional for the football team. So it's just great. The boys were able to go up there and get that victory for him and put themselves smack dab into the race for the FCC north. That's the thing in in your right, I, it's going to be interesting to see just what happens here with the north. I mean, the Baltimore Ravens are just started their game against the Tennessee titans. I believe the Browns lost their earlier. So the Steelers are now three, two and one. The Bengals are four and two ravens. We'll see how they finished, but they have jetted themselves of right back into this thing and coming off the bye week when you have you know the Browns coming off the bye. And then you also have the ravens after that they control their own destiny. And that's something I talked about. The last show was that's what she want. You want to control your destiny, and that's something the you still do possess at this point in time. Let's go ahead and go over the defensive numbers for the Pittsburgh Steelers in this game. Not not horrible. We'll. About the defense at a second, but just to give you some totals here, Vince Williams finished with seven total tackles six solo the team as a whole ended with three sacks of excuse me, three sags of antidote and four tackles for loss. They had six past offenses, which is pretty solid for this group and four quarterback hits total. There were no turnovers on either side of the of the docket and Lance will was your initial reaction for the defense. Because for me, I thought they played a very good game up until the last drive. I thought up until that last drive, the Cincinnati Bengals had been aided by some horrendous special teams play by the Pittsburgh Steelers, miss tackles and stuff of that nature. The last drive was awful, but if it's same exact thing that happened, Super Bowl, forty three, and they said it on the sideline. Then it was if you're gonna let them score, you'd better let them score quick and that's exactly what they did to give the offense enough time. What was your initial reaction with with the defense. I thought it's better. I think it's improving, but it's a mixed performance. When you look at the third down efficiency numbers for the Bengals, six or twelve fifty percent three of three in the red zone that has to improve, but they weren't aided by some special team tasks and to really bad drives drive into the half and the drive. At the end of the game, those two drives are bad. You have to improve their, but they did just enough to win the game and what they're doing now, we talked about it on a true and false with this defense ever whole teams on average under around twenty points game, and they're working towards that with this offense and their ability to score points. This is around the number that you wanna hold teams to to like twenty one. The only thing in this game that they had in terms of scoring defense is that they limited to being goes opportunities to only three in the red zone. They gotta get home on plays. I think they got caught in some bad coverages would linebackers on running backs from some tiny ends in that game. They. Can play better. Some of that can improve, but defense is the ultimate, the ultimate complimentary sport, special teams really aids defense. And I think they were let down some instance by special teams, but overall solid performance winning performance. But like we said, going into the bye there's meat on the bone, it can improve. But the defense over the last two weeks is playing better than a defense that we still get shredded earlier in the season by Kansas City. Well, you know, I'll say this because they'll j four did not play in this game. He was injured. He did not practice it. All you have the feeling he should be healthy coming off the bye I would feel I would feel a lot better about this defense. If you go back to Atlanta one, Vince Williams out of the lineup, they had Tyler Medicated in on most basic, your base defense. And then they put Eljay Ford in for sub packages when they had that linebacker on the field. And it looked a lot better. Eljay. Ford is athlete enough that he can cover running backs that he can cover tight end. NHS, Vince Williams is not so, but in my opinion, I think Vince Williams is better run stopper than Medicated. So I actually excited to see. I let me just, I hope the Steelers, defensive coaching staff inserts fort back into the lineup on those packages. Because if they do that, I think that this defense in terms of the middle, which is something we've talked about it nauseam here this the season. I think this defense could be a lot better than what it already has become. They're getting to the quarterback. They lead the league in sacks after six weeks and they had three more today. It's it's hard to believe the j von Hargrave gets one Steph onto it gets his first of the season it. It's coming from a a lot of different people. But I you agree with me to what l. j. fortunate against the falcons offense if he can play that role. Again, when with Vince Williams in there alongside I, Boston has been very good. In my opinion. You think that's going to help. This defense a lot. Let me add something as well to the point. You may not think it's a very good one. The to it sack was great sack. That was great timing to get your first. I was awesome time to get that sec, but added Morgan Burnett as well. Hopefully you get Morgan Burnett back and you can add to the mix. Maybe you can take both of those linebackers off the field and get that much better than sub packed football and terms of covering running backs and Tiny's in the seems you can add pretty good pass defenders, which would increase productivity and production of this defense. So I like where you're going there. And so I really wanna see this defense when they add or nit what Burnett can add to this defense. But the funny thing about this team, you know, it's. And I'm sure that it's gone on with several teams in the National Football League. That first month is pretty sketchy. Typically, in most NFL season, you'll say the first four games. You can kind of tell what your football team is, but that's not the case in any more than actual football league. It's probably the first eight games or the first six giving sort of an idea of what your football team is because this team is rounding into shape in. It's great at the buys coming so guys get healthy and maybe that other guy is coming in that we won't say his name until maybe he comes in, but but where they are right now, they're trending up, and this is kind of where you wanna be. You get Cleveland after the bye maybe go out and get that win your four to one. And you get that rematch game against the ravens, and now you've really control your destiny. So they're moving in the right direction. Absolutely. So for me, my question is now the Steelers heading into the BI week. Do they make any changes the time to do it? I think getting healthy is gonna really aid this team, but I think about. Well, let me back up. Do you I, I don't wanna talk about the guy, but half two because it impacts the team. If your on bell does show up and we'll talk about this Moore on Wednesday, he does report. Do you make any changes you make? Do you insert him back in I, I know what the team's probably going to do, but if you're the coach lands your Mike Tomlin, how do you handle del coming back into the lineup? He has to come off the bench till he works. So back Conners production makes him come off the bench. I mean, you cannot you cannot punish Connor for playing outstanding football. Connors playing really well. You keep everything the same on the offensive side of football, and what you have is a two headed monster. At the running back position. These guys can split carries and you can just really pound teams. Now, I think what it does is it just really helps them play the type of football that they need complimentary offense of football. That helps keep this defense off the field where they can control clock in punish teams with the running game. I think the addition of Bill, if he comes back just makes the formula that they found better, but I think they have to continue to reward young man. Connor in a in continuing to let him start because he's played outstanding football this so far this year. So you keep Connor as the starter and you bring lady on bail back off the bench, and you work him in and let him get into football shape. Okay. Now I'm gonna ask you a question lands and you're not going to answer it until Wednesday. It's going to be a talking point for. Show on Wednesday. We've seen jus use misuse or maybe I should say that I've seen juju Smith Schuster enough that for me, I'm impressed. I mean, the kid has done everything that was expected of him. And then some we've seen Antonio Brown line was really good receivers when he was the dominant receiver in Pittsburgh. So I'm not going back to like when Hines ward was still playing and Brown was just a budding player on the offense. I'm talking about young money crew and on my question for you and anyone that's watching this live on YouTube or if you're on behind this curtain dot com. Wanna comment and the comments action. Would you say that the Browns misused Radu is the best one, two punch that Pittsburgh his head in the Antonio Brown era. I want you to think about it because you're gonna have to go back and look at all the different players that have played there. You have Mike Wallace Emmanuel Sanders or tavis Fryatt I want you to think about the complete complement that these players are. You know. Terms of what they do on the field, what they bring to the team. Think about that. Do you have any comments off the off the bat? I don't want you to answer it. Do you have any comments about that? That off the top of my head, I would say no. I said, don't answer. You said off the top of my head. I mean, that's not my fishing. Okay. Off the tap about him? I would just think, no. Okay. I think there was a better duo top head. Well, you probably you probably know the do I'm thinking of, I won't name the do, but yes, I think there was a duo slightly better than this to the needs to Darius grain. I knew exactly. You're thinking. Absolutely. All right. I wanna get into some team suggested here lands because I find to be very important telling the Pittsburgh Steelers ran sixty. Seven total plays on offense to the Cincinnati fifty eight in terms of time of possession. They won the time of possession with thirty four minutes and fifty. Six seconds had four hundred eighty. One of yours. Cincinnati's two hundred seventy five. I, I look at elegant. This number right here. Red zone Steelers were to for four and you're thinking, it's fifty percent. That's not bad, but there's two didn't score on were just absolute back breakers, both at the time both times they had the ball at the one or inside the one and failed to score that can't happen if you're a good team and then you look on the flipside and the Bengals with three for three in the red zone, not very good defensive performance, but we've come to. We've come to get used to that. I guess, penalties steals penalized nine times for sixty nine yards. They are by far and away the NFL leader in terms of penalties. So far this season not trending in the right direction, not trying to drag. It got up to nine Jeff. I thought they hit it cleaned up because I know earlier in a game, it was only like two penalties by going into the half. They got seven more in the second half half thought they had thought they were thought they got that number down, but let me give you a positive number and. Let me give you a positive number because people think I can't be positive. I don't have a sense of humor that can't be positive on his show. The mask and me predicting things should win. Let me just Pat my collars there. 'cause I did pick them and they did win. There should show you that I have since of humor and actually be funny because I'm saying I have a sense of humor bid plays bid plays a something that we talked about in our breakdown. They only gave up one big play in the passing game twenty three yards to AJ green. Now they had some drops Cincinnati bungles, but that's what we were talking about. Keeping the big plays down. Now the time of possession being that tilted, you probably don't have that too many times, but man, twenty five minutes. You don't want this defense to play too much more than sixty snaps. They kept it over under sixty sixty sixty. Five is probably the breaking point where his defense, they kept the defense fresh. Defense off the field with two, right? They've got a score, those touchdowns in a red zone, and this game isn't as thrilling as we're talking about, but I still like where this is trending think this is trending in the right direction because earlier in the season defense was a bend and break defense, not been not very. It was been in break and now it's just been not break. Okay. So are you buying now? Are you a buyer for the Steelers? Because we asked this question I to say before the falcons game, what would the Steelers need to do for you to say? I'm all I'm back. I'm back on that bandwagon. I think this team can come. I think they can contend. Are you there yet, Lance, or does his team still have something to show you. Well, you don't. I wanna correct. Jeff, and just say, I'm never on the bandwagon. I got a permanent. Got them permanent seat up front. I'm on the Pat bus. I ride the sixteen d woods run from downtown to Manchester in the north side. So I got a permanency on the bus, but I'm gonna tell you what you guys last week on the program. They're gonna have to win threes division games. I one chip beat, Cincinnati, handle your business, beat Cleveland and beat Baltimore. When all three of those, I'm all in my seat is warm. I'm getting cozy on the Pat bus 'cause they just turn the heat on. 'cause all downtown and that wind is whipping through. I got a permanent seat on the sixteen d baby. Y'all know what I'm talking about. Y'all know what I'm talking about. If you for Pittsburgh, sixteen d bus, you gotta wait for our hoping that you don't miss the last one. You know what I'm talking about. Well, you know what? That's a question. I love to ask fans because after the one and one start everyone. And then let's go step further to the one two and one start. I mean they were fans, like you said, the raid to jump off the Clementi bridge and we were having to try to talk them down and I always want to know, you know, when the Steelers are in in their Brian, when they're rattling off, thirteen wins in a season, everyone can jump up and say yak. Yeah, the Steelers, I love the Steelers, but it will point when things are not going well. Do you say, you know what, if this team can do about that? I'm back. I think this team is going to be eighteen. They can contend. I think that a lot of people feel that if the Steelers when their next to coming off the bye so they, they beat the Browns at home. They go into Baltimore, went very difficult place to play. They go into MNT and win, then they're all of a sudden thinking this, this team could be real because if they do that, they would dance to five, two and one on the scene. Season, they would be most likely at or near the top of the division race. It would make things at rested, but that's a that's a for hold other time. So I asked our listeners there were on live on YouTube if they had questions and we had some, here's let's go, let's go to a rapid fire you already. Lance. Ready baby. That's right. How big of an advantage do you think the the Bengals lack of tight ends was in this game today? Huge event for the Steelers. The Steelers can't cover titans in the scene. We all know that was a huge advantage for the Steelers in this game. Although I think they're tiny and still played pretty well. But yes, huge advantage because we know that Bostick and we know the vents do not cover Ryan Bax Tynan's coming through the seems very well. So it was a huge advantage for the Steelers. Let me go back to the one point about the Patrick Durand may. I don't know if Tomlin's served the game up and you guys, you know, you guys know. I like Thomas. I think the issue would not challenging. I think it's just a tough spot right there. I think what you think is you wanna hold the challenge because you don't have any left and you think that your offense can convert from one yard away. I mean, on a half yard line, if you can't punch it in there, you know, you should probably lose the game. They didn't. So they got bailed out, but I didn't have a problem with them, not challenging their big because you gotta have some faith in your office that they could punch it in at that point. Well, yeah, Tomlinson his post game press conference. When he was asked about that, that he did not have a good view. The obviously the home team Cincinnati Bengals did not show a lot of replays. I could see either way. I thought that the first half challenged was awful is very evident that too. I think anyone in the stadium that he didn't make the first down and then it makes you second guess yourself and you have to worry about timeouts and things of that nature. So it's it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback in always second guess with the coach does, but you know what? It's a big win for the sealers today. Has Vance McDonald won the starting position or do you think that he's just one? It's a one one b scenario. I think it's it is the both tight ends Jesse James Vance McDonald. They're basically swapping them out unless they're using two tight end sets in which case, you know they have both Saint Xavier grumble is played more and more the last two weeks away. All three eight play. Why don't you think. I think the Chinese play well. Vance McDonald should be started. Jesse, James me and my dad or watch the cave laughing because Jesse James has to be the worse yards after catch guy ever was blowing that guy. He's gonna fall over. He's looking to fall. So it was he kicks ball. I like Jesse has player. He's a complimentary do, but advanced McDonnell you know, quick twitch superfish strong better in blocking game better receiver. Vance's man. They need to give van some money and bring Vance back. Hopefully stay healthy. 'cause Vance is big time player. Van should be the starter moving forward. Talk about a change of Darren, if and when he missed all of preseason and all the training camp because of his ankle injury, it was everyone's like, oh man. This guy's always heard yeti Atta and everyone's on the animal train right now. So remember that folks sometimes we're a little shortsighted. Okay. Is there anyone on this team or anyone that's the disuse can bring into take Artie burns spot already burns did not have very good game. He wasn't targeted that much, but when he was what for completions, they've been, they still have been switching out. He and Cody Sensabaugh for those that have been paying attention. But you know, the did promote Brian Allen from the practice squad. What do you think about Artie burns. We didn't do our heroes in zeros, but Ariz to see row. That's what I think art. He's not a good player already is not playing well. It's not playing football Arnie's having confidence shoes. So Artie gets zero for me. And I, I mean, I don't know if they have a better option. They just need a more consistent option guy. That's gonna play the coverages because on the plate where they gave up the touchdown, even if you think safety's over top, you still gotta get under the throw, aided even do that. So Ariz. This is a good break for our to get his mom, right, maybe needs a little bit of break to get refocused every center come back and play some solid football. I'm looking here and now a lot of times who you are little great. You wanna do this real quick. Sure. Good. You look trying to just a mask trying to get it right. I real quickly. We're gonna do some grades. We didn't do this in the beginning of the show. We're gonna use some raids here. It's a four out of four scale. Obviously, if you get a four, you had a phenomenal game. That's an a already. I'm gonna give the defense a two and a half. They played just well enough to win. They were aided by some drops by Cincinnati. They were bad on third down and bad on the red zone, but that's why you play football your offense, complimentary foot, your defense at times, and they pick them up and ask what they did. Defense can play better. But the one good positive is that they're not giving a bit plays like they used to. So it was a winning effort, but it can't get better grades two and a half. Yes, I would say two point. Seven. Five. I thought they played a great game in the last Dr. Ben Rothlisberger what's his grade. Give been a three winning performance. You've been at three and a half that last drive was outstanding, but you've got to score touchdowns in the red zone and you wouldn't have to do that. So I give a three and a half thought he played a solid game, didn't turn it over on the road and you get a divisional win three and a half. Three, seven, five. Just because you only three one touchdown the name, like you said, clean. He I thought he played well, the last Dr. Vinnie dramas burger. Let's go to the offensive line was the offensive line grade. That's a full or anytime you one hundred ground? No sacks four. That's probably a four and a half. Four point five. No, I'm gonna say four point seven, five. That's a. Plus Jeff lights dive. So I'm gonna go four point, seven, five, I'm gonna give him above the maximum. Only not would be only knock would be. They've gotta run better. In short yardage situations. You gotta punch that in on the one you gotta score. You gotta have an attitude there in punched in in the game. That's why I'm going with a three point. Nine, you've gotta get as one yard touchdown runs. That's not a hey, that phenomenal game. I thought this group is gonna play in unison, James, Connor great him. Four other guy. Other guy, four -absolutely. Let's do the next three, some rapid fire juju. Antonio, four Vance, three point, five, three point, five vans. I don't understand what the fumble as the half point off there. I don't know what to do. He blocked four. You're right. I'll give him a four, three point. Five because he fumbled don't fumble the football. No one hit him. If you watch that again, he just his hands are huge. He was holding the ball over bread. That's something my flag football coach told me when I was six years old, don't hold the football over bred, hey, let's go to some defensive guys. I went to individual grades, Joe Haden, you grade them. Three, really. I didn't think he AJ greens. Good. I think he played really saw a three, three point, two, five. You liked these weird grades. So with three points, five, I'm struggling with the mask with three point, two, five. Do you wanna take him in and taping off for what? No. I'm not gonna. Take it off today. Lose. Okay l. let's go with. Shoot TJ watt. Two. Was. Where was he? He, he had a big stop on third down on Joe mix that was under Dr where they look like they were going to be in field goal range, Artie burns, what what grade you give him. Did he play incomplete. Ac- row. Well, as eager is different than incomplete. You're giving zero. Okay. I would give him as hero. Yeah, he sucks. Thrill, Edmonds. What grade you give him? Because I didn't really see him much two and a half dig that. Vince williams. Advantage two and a half. In coverage stout in running game. Now, here's, here's the biggest question of all. There's two Chris Boswell. Three, three and a half. What did he do wrong made all of his. No, no, no, no. Here's why I'm giving Chris Boswell three and a half men kicking it. That short at the end of the half was terrible. I don't think that cancer. I think that's Dany Smith call is that that's terrible. You got kicked out of the end zone and make them go eight, you kick it short. You give up the return, they get fifty. Then you get a penalty right after that. That's bad in zero. Also could have been special teams play cover. That's fantas- game. They're outstanding the week before against they were terrible this game, they really almost cost steals ballgame. So Boswell, three and a half. Okay. I I would give him a see. I still think you see kicking out of the end zone and sometimes in kicking it short that tells me that the coaches saying, hey, I want you to kick it short here. We're trying to pin them back. So I'll give it three, seven, five air your best friend, Jordan Barry. What is your? What was your great for him. Cheesman two and a half met like he's kicked by kick me. He's putt by punt. He added one. Van sixty nine yards. Oh, man. Can we. Because they weren't getting two point. Seven, five. I like your point. Seven. Five, two point. Seven, five t he sucks. Okay. Overall coaching staff. I'm great. My Tomlin in the boys. I'm gonna give Tom into three. Nothing great. Nothing bad. The challenge was the most controversial play there, but they wanna game. I'm gonna give. They're probably three point, two, five man. That last drive was fantastic, but you don't know if he's calling the plays or bins calling plays defense inside a football, giving two and a half or not give it a big place. But man, they gotta play better on in the red zone and on third down. So overall, I think the coaching staff was probably a two point, seven, five. I think the players to a certain extent, their execution down the stretch, kinda cleaned it up with a coach coaches, some areas. Danny Smith in a special teams units were bad, so that kind of drags the great now to about two point, seven, five, you know, it helps to have ABM big man, get the win, correct. Get better holiday boy, if I were to not kief, say please putting safeties. Blitz, Mike hill Nafi by all. But please letting safeties it's late. It's leaving your secondary hanging out to dry in the back end, please stop putting your safety's now read over and he. He brought up a good point. No dairies Hebei Eljay Ford on special teams did not help. The HP is a gutter. So he's one of those first guys down there. I'll tell you what with the trade deadline approaching believes its tuber thirty. I'll double check on that. Could be some Newsday. There's already been some players, Patrick Peterson from the cardinals. The cardinals are basically just trying to sell if there's anyone that wants to buy, they're selling. So for that, you know, we have to look at it and I think the Steelers would be smart to just get a feel for what people are asking. If they have extra draft picks that they have. You know, maybe it's a a player that they were they're interested in. I'm not saying the lady on bell trade, but it's a seed, see if it's worth it. I think you'd have to be a position where a player could come in and just play. I think about like a quarterback. Can go Patrick Peterson, that's the guy you want. If you could do a trade for patch Peterson. Well, yeah, but I'm saying the position matters to, for instance, trading for an inside linebacker or a pass. Rusher would be good because say, hey, just go, go, go get the pass right. Go get the quarterback. The quarterback has the no man's zone coverages. They're pretty much standard across the league, especially for the cornerback outside quarterback position. So it'd be interesting to see what happens. Do you want to say before we wrap this thing up before I give lands his hands to kind of, you know, give his field. The end of the show we will be on this week, be prepared for regular slate of scheduled. The, you know, talking about the the hangover will be Monday night, Wednesday will be the standard. The standard Thursday will still have a preview show. We'll be talking about upcoming AFC. North matchups will probably be on again on Sunday, we'll we'll pick a time and I'll tweet it out so that everyone is. What time will be on a next Sunday to talk about the AFC north action and then started looking ahead to the Steelers Browns Lance, go ahead. Give me your final. Take here on your final take as the Steelers heading into the by coming off the win where they go from here. I think the arrows pointing big up the gray Wakefield, man. I'm trying to get this right. You know, this is my first time. I'm trying to be ghost face stealer you know, the Wu Tang client. The Representative of the Steelers, you know, represented Pittsburgh goes face dealer Holland, Sheboygan, but the is trindon up. This is where you wanna be going into the bye you get a win. Hopefully lady on actually calls the team until then he's coming in. It's trending up. You get healthy. You're starting to play good football. I think they're right where you want them to be. I mean, looking back at this first piece of the season, you would hope that you beat Cleveland, but you know you're at three, two and one, you know, you're right, where you want to be your trending real quick on the trace Patrick Peterson will be great. You at a corner in his defense, it elevates defense. One of the listeners out there talked about market king, but I think market king is hurt if he were available. That's the part I think he's hurt. But if there was a Potter out there that you could find that would help this defense as well help. This football team because berries just not Inc. It's not consistent, but this is where the team wants to be going three, two and one you're feeling good about yourself. You're filling frisky. They gotta get Artie burns to play better. So this defense continue to trend upwards, but meant a road. Divisional win is awesome. Shade leave, we'd you know what they are Bongos they don't beat the Steelers. However, boy, let's keep it cracking. Keep it moving. Aka ghost face stealer and I'm out. All right. So I do wanna mention real quick before we get Advantest burbot is complete brash and he's dirty in. There's something wrong with that guy. We're gonna talk about that more this week, especially on Wednesday since we'll have the time to really dive into how dirty he is. And some of the things that he said and date on the field as some of these reports are coming from the players after the game lands. I wanna thank you for your time. I appreciate it as always makes you check out behind this deal, Kirk dot com. For all your Pittsburgh Steelers need folks. Remember. Follow us on every single podcast platform that is the most important thing to understand whether it's it's art nineteen. I tunes Spotify were everywhere just type in BT, SE Steelers, and you will find as thanks for listening. We'll see next time. Hi, I'm Karen Fisher. I wanna tell you about another podcast. You should check out. 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Steelers Hangover: Is it business as usual for Mike Tomlin, or has he changed?

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Steelers Hangover: Is it business as usual for Mike Tomlin, or has he changed?

"Dealer fans welcome back to another episode of the steelers hangover. This is dave scofield from behind the steel. Curtain coming to you tonight and introducing to you your host. He's number three on the screen but number one in your hearts ryan anthony davis. Hello hello everybody and welcome to the steelers hangover. This stowed it at all is war we do. We look back. Check on the week that was and figure out what's going on. Can we get over this dealer network cover or are we still reveling in great victory now. Of course they're in training camps so there was no game but that's coming up my friends. It is and to discuss it or my two good friends from by the curtain tony and dave go fill tony how order my friend hey brian. I'm doing great. I'm <hes> we're only a few days away from the first preseason game and can i get over the off season. Yes i'm officially over it. It was a long off season and glad it's done and i'm glad we're getting ready to see some real talk. Kind of kind of kind of what goldfield place is going to be rocky. Ah i'm good dave scofield. You usually go to the games but i love to go to this day. Is anybody that i can find it or or the ones that we were given away and behind the curtain. Are they gone they argonne. I'm not sure if jeff is updated that article yet to say that we did get a winter but i have been responding to every email i've been that's pretty much been my entire day. Today was responding to emails even if they were just kind of almost like a copy and paste response to people but i've responded to everyone who entered and it was if you don't know what we're talking about that. There was a really nice contest that we ran for two tickets to the game friday that that <hes> we were able to to give away <hes> we'll probably not so but more what's going on with the person that want it if the trust me the person who one day are aware of the situation. They're already making their plans. It's a pretty great story and <hes> be looking for that because it's a it's a really good one that we're going to want to. You're going to want to want to hear about but i might also be heading up to this game brian so i might have to meet up with our contest winner. While we're up there. That'd be awesome. Partying with dave scofield is like partying with that means anything to any of you but that is that is one world-class party uh-huh so hey so training camp about a week and a half in the training camp almost a week and a half. We've got a game coming up with a few games. They got a chance to rest but you guys noticed that in the narrative has it changed because the talk all along is that the pittsburgh steeler will go ahead and have a new the attitude this year without guys like mr big chest. I'm sorry mr third and fifth and juice on bell now that they are not on this debt is they're focused the ready. They wanna prove themselves without these guy. So have you noticed that so far. Dave scofield go field i have when it comes to the players. I think you're exactly right and i think there's been a just the different attitude. Ben says that he is in love with football again. Everyone seems to be having a different approach. <hes> your as brian is to say the feeling but you're raising a pretty big question here tonight. I think we should dive into here. What do you think tony tony or you noticing a change the players on the field. I know vance mcdonald last week. Said ben looks hot. He looks he's talking about them. You look at like man sexy thing. He's talking about this just with are- said looking that is just in love love with football like he said and ready to play some football so do you think it is carried over to all fifty three men on the roster. Oh absolutely i mean you saw last week. <hes> two of the <hes> the nicest guys on the team <hes> big al and i can't hayward i mean they they had a little scuffle. Ah training camp you know. These are two two leaders but you know they. They mean business. This year. I mean not today didn't last year in previous years but yeah. I think that it's a <hes> it's a <hes> a testament to how the whole team is doing. I mean it's it's it's they're all business. They're focused and i think they want to prove to everybody that that they are a true team and they can move forward despite missing <hes> mister big chest as you said in <hes> in in love bell so yeah i think as far as the players concerned they're are there more business like the nave appeared in recent seasons now when we're talking about more more business like who do you think specifically has really obvious one for me would be the kicker chris. Boswell hit a fifty four in practice on on family night. He's he's. I believe he was seven or six for six the first time he kicked the other day. He seems seems to be back but we've got a way to the regular season to know that for sure but that's got to be something. That's that's really making. You feel good day. Wooding assay definitely right now boswell has done everything in the preseason that he needs to do in order to retain the job. We talked about an awful lot. The entire offseason about what's going on with bosma was he. The kicker is do you not i went from thinking it was more often than he or more likely that he wouldn't be towards more likely that he would be to a point now where unless he gets injured in the preseason they much. It's like a sean squeeze. 'em incident. Let me knock on wood here because we don't want to talk about stuff like that. This is going to be his job. He's unless he comes out and just completely elite tanks in the game in the in the preseason game situation because he's given every indication that he's feeling stronger. He's feeling better. He's got it right right mentally and that he has backed two thousand seventeen four tony duffy was something wrong with chris boswell <hes> healthwise last year that we just really you don't know about i know towards the end of the year. There was some speculation then there was speculation that he was a healthy scratch going into week seventeen against cincinnati. What's your thoughts what's. I don't think i know he was put on injured reserve. I think he had a brother went on twitter and city had a groin injury but you know he didn't have that problem. In in in the preseason he was his his old self and then you know he missed that overtime kick in week one and he was never the same after that so unless he tort his his he had that injury on that kick in overtime. I don't think that was the issue. It might have been towards the end of the year but that was not what i think it was more her mental and mechanical than than anything else. Only howard on the live chat is saying that it was a growing hair. That's what's what's being noticed there now. If you don't know you're not familiar with the live chat. We have it going on here on youtube you go ahead and chime in if you do have something thing that is pressing that you want us to answer feel free to that's called the super chat and you could go ahead and put some money into the into the little tip up jar what we call here the the pot and it all goes towards <hes> <hes> tony and his <hes> his bar bill down at froggy sir. I don't you think mark my personal trainer personal trainer yet but if you do have a pressing i it's something that goes to the administration administration the show and also contest like the ones that you just saw that we just talked about a little bit earlier david decastro paul last week. We've we've had the chew chew jersey a couple months ago so <hes> there's things like that so if you want to join in feel free to we have one already in the queue that we will be getting into an <hes> a little bit but who else tony has really impressed you as just upping the ante as far as two thousand nineteen goes goes versus two thousand eighteen i actually i've been hearing a lot of great things about camp sutton about how he's pushing my chilton for the slot position yet. You're reading stories about hilton practicing safety. You know nothing. He's gonna move there but you know he needs to be positioned flexible and i think chem sutton already is i think he can he can and <hes> he's really upped. His game is your number three for him and as we talked about last week they've expected a lot from him is a heady player. He's the smart player. He's he's a yeah. I think this could be a year that he really takes leap forward and somebody else that. I've heard a lot of good things about this match filer. There was talk that that <hes> szucs could take his job at right tackle call but everything i've heard from him from campus. He's not going to be an easy task for <hes> for a second year guy to do that. So those are two guys that i've really feel that are part of the future and they've they've at least so far in can't they upped their game dave scofield. What are your thoughts on that and and <hes> at safety are we looking at the possibility of a long rest injure injury wise for sean davis and and could mike hilton be spending a lot more time. They're giving a lot of room for cam sutton to have a very big year number three. I think sean davis. This will be back sooner than we think he could be gone. When it comes to a dislocation a dislocation is a lot of times when you have a serious injury when you hear a dislocation. It looks disgusting. It sounds gross but it's not that big of a deal versus a fracture i had a i had a knee injury here at one point that i thought oh my goodness. I'm gonna need surgery. I'm going to be laid up over year. I was actually playing in a basketball game. Someone all my knee and i thought i was in trouble. I dislocated my kneecap and guess what in back in and i actually very next week for basketball was just did warm ups. 'cause the doctor says get out and start flexing it. You know i thought i thought i was going to be laid up for a long time but a dislocation. Although you never want to have anything happen sometimes. It's one of your better diagnoses so that's why dante moncrieff has been able to make it back faster because even though his finger looked to disgusting it was just pop back into place and you just deal with the swelling. I'm hoping there's no fracture or anything with sean davis. If there's not he should be back but that's just the safety stuff going on. We've got the right to the right tackle job that tony brought up which was great because not only that that has been doing great but szucs has to i mean that's the thing they're really battling it out and then the report was when they held big al out from stuff they put szucs over at left tackle which tells me he's more in line to be that swing tackle they're having and they said he looked even better at left tackle that he did it right tackle so now. I don't think he's going to be bumping off. You know a two time pro bowler right now but that's just that's just great news. When it comes to the offensive line that even if somebody does get dinged up for part of the season you've got competent guys that can step in and with the tight end position being a little bit sketchy with the depth there. You've guys got guys that can come in. It's at blocking tight right end and just use the offensive line but instead good thought <hes> tony. I want to go back with you. What are your thoughts. Is this desperation. Time time is this. Is this euro dark thirty for this guy. I don't think so yet. I think he shared a little bit last year but i think if he doesn't up his game this year than than they're gonna. They're gonna have to start wondering if he even has what it what it takes to be an n._f._l. Corner so yeah it's not it's not quite that point yet because he has had some injury issues so he hasn't had as much exposure as somebody like an already burns for example but i definitely think if he doesn't make that leap this year then <hes> having about about his ability to do so now since april tony dave we've been talking a long time about the rookies and some rookies have really been turning heads in camp and one of them of course really needs to turn heads in camp and his name is devon bush d- when you trade up ten picks forum give away a third next year <hes> it's it's a pretty big deal and we know that all along we a lot of people think that he was the real deal. My thought at draft time was even if he turns out to be a busted. It's still a trade that you make that day that hour that minute because he is that important to what you need but it seems it's like he's been backed up in practice so far tony. What are your thoughts everything. I've i've heard <hes>. He seemed like he the speed. Is there for sure. You're he's picking things up. He's he's. They're having him called called a place where it's going to be important because that tells me that they're going to want him on the field for all three downs. You know you're talking. They're talking about him playing dime. He's playing some dime so is he the real deal who knows we won't we won't find out until starting friday but <hes> like. You said it was the right. It was the right move. He was a guy that they needed for that defense. I mean he you know without shays ear. That defense offensive was was a show of force up last year and <hes> you know i am. I'm excited to see what he can do. On friday. I know where my man crushes crushes on. Devon bush dave one to ten how hard you crushing on this guy so far ago nine and a half. I mean come on the steelers made the move they got they. They identified their guy. They did what they had to do to go. Get their guy and so so steelers nations. Gotta gotta be loved him so far but you gotta remember. We're talking about practice practice man. You're not a game. We're talking about practice and the thing is is this as much as i hate to say it and it kinda. It destroys us with what we're trying to do. At behind this curtain lance williams said we need to stop falling for all the reports out of training camp. He's kinda right because you really wanna know how devon bush's doing depends on which day you're looking at. That's what you get with every rookie. You can't expect them to go out there and tear it up every day at practice because there was bad reports about the object johnson it was great reports about the johnson there was bad reports about justed lane. There was worse reports about justin lane and there might have been a good one in there or not. I'm not sure that's just how it's gone with a lot of these especially the rookies he's but it it goes across other places ali howard said in the in the live chat that he said that dobbs so far winning the number two job. That's probably we only looking at the practice after they did the two minute drill and in the two minute drill we scored in three plays and when rudolph the two minute drill day stalled they turned over on downs the four a yard line going in but there was other times earlier in practice whether ports are dobson terrible. He looked like he he was missing open receivers and things like that but then on a different day he looks great okay same deal with with devon hodges for a long time it was like it looks like he's out of his league. Then all of a sudden he comes on on strong. It all depends on which day you're looking at but you know what day is the most important day friday when they go on the field and play play their first preseason game. It's okay if you make these mistakes in practice or if you look don't always look the best in practice and it's and guess what it's not important if you're making these great plays in practice if it doesn't transfer onto the field i know it's pretty season but for rookies and guys buried down the depth chart. This is is your chance. This is your game chance. Let's see what happens. You know what i am so excited for devon bush that i've got a tiger beat style poster poster of him. He's wearing a jacket and just like he writes ex- ex- oh love devon. That's how excited. I am for this guy to come in tony. You remember tiger agra b. Dave that might be. You probably don't remember tiger beat dave but i'm really excited for this guy so maybe you'll know the next pop culture reference. We're so excited for this. Dave has been blasting on a loop on youtube. Rebecca black's friday over okay he got at least he has won so with that being said that leads us back to our super chat and leo river the third. We got to throw in the third third here. <hes> he asked devin bush over under one hundred solo tackles five sacks and one interception tony. I'll start with you my man over under on all those stats yeah well cackles. I'll go over saxe now. Go under in interception. I'm gonna go over on that one david okay okay. I was trying to look up some some <hes>. Two thousand eighteen statistics quickly go just to just to get an idea of like where would one hundred tackles tackles. Put him on the team. That's my question so as i'm looking at up. I'm going to say with the interceptions. I'm going to say push. I think that's a perfect. One interception would be would be what i would project him for his rookie year <hes> for the five sacks. I'm going to say under because i don't know that they're going to be sending him a lot especially if he's in that dime linebacker i don't know how much he's going to be blitzing because of his quality coverage skills a month saying there won't it but he might not have as much of an opportunity i mean when he's out there on a passing play a lot of time to make sense to send someone might convince williams because because he's not your that's not your strength in coverage so i am compl- there we go. There's defense and fumbles. I'm trying to find tackles else. Where would where would one hundred tackles put him that would put him twenty more than any steeler had in two thousand eighteen so so i'm also gonna go under with one hundred tackles. I would put him right around. <hes> let's go seventy two seventy five. Let's go under on the tackles but not that much under i would say he's still going to have a significant amount but he's still going to share some time probably with mark barron he might start turtles sixteen games where he might not or you might see baron starting all sixteen well. I doubt it but there's there's some guys in there so so i think he's going to have a phenomenal rookie year but he doesn't have to carry with being over one hundred tackles with a big group effort there. He just needs to be dominant presence. You also need to have good play from mark barron as well and we can't forget about mark barron a lot too. He's he's very significant to the success of not only devon bush but the entire defense is well if they could have a a nice little <hes> platoon going going there to even if it's sixty forty even if it's seventy thirty but you have you have something good someone in there at all times with both of them. You have a really good solid tag team there so i would say that that's not a bad thing now if he's around forty then yeah we're panic. Panic is going to be that much under interceptions actually think he's going to have more. I like dave's push idea but i could see him grabbing to that could impossibility if they are dropping him back he is the kind of he has a great mix of being able to rush the passer being able to get the ball carrier and dropping back in an and having some balls to so. Let's go with two ryan. I was gonna say you're so wise. You called out my contradiction. I can't say he's not going to get enough sacks because he's going to be in coverage bridge more and then say he's not going to get enough opportunities to make interceptions so you are very wise man. You're you're correct. I stumbled into that dave. I the correcting you when you guys think of the possibility of <hes> of barron taking playing time away from williams because i mean he's you have to fast linebackers out on the field at the same time. I've i even consider that but the way they're talking about how good they are together a training camp. That might be the possibility. We're not even seeing right now. You know what i that's a possibility as well now ali here ali howard just mentioned that <hes> ben i mean the baron has missed some practices as well but that's something they might be a tinkering with so you never know but i think that'd be great idea dave <hes> i would love to see a really speedy middle on that team. Yes i like it <hes> as long as they're effective so i mean speed is great but sometimes too much speed can take your right out of the play so you got to be under control and that's why <hes> we got to see on the field and game action. That's what it takes. I mean we're really gonna have something to talk about. After this game well tony helped me out with this. I know we're the same age aged and we're probably both jonesing for twenty twenty with a new top gun and let's go top gun here. I'll be maverick u._b. Goose or vice versa you. Have you have more of the airline more of the mountain i don't. I'm not even close but i feel the need. The need take tony for speed there you go <music> speed does kill and like alley just put in their speed does kill so that'd be fantastic. Oh is it goose and maverick or or is it ric flair and arn anderson you guys are your versatile my man hey you can take on any role. You need need yeah. That's that's the glory of this dream team. This one thousand nine hundred seventy one dreamed even your nineteen seventy-one right two seven. Oh i'm leaving in the year of the immaculate reception. I wow so i <hes> i'm actually nineteen seventy-one so that's december irv seventy one so we're probably a little closer but with that being said i did not know that i was older than <hes> than tony. I know i'm older than dave so i am. The elder statesman of the shows so <hes> like ryan tool says four horsemen for life baby so i guess i am ric flair woo okay so here's here's the thing we're talking about top rookies. We had one question and maybe you can help us out with this deontay johnson. I mean we've heard some really impressive impressive things from him and then there's some things that you know he still has some learning to do but we also heard about an injury or do we need to be worried about this injury that the onta- johnson i honestly i'm a little concerned because i know he got dinged up was rookie minicamp or right into o._t._a.'s. He couldn't participate with everything thing because he was dinged up here. We are in training camp again and he's a little dinged up. I i mean i'm hoping it's just a little dinged up. <hes> is it concerning. Yes because you don't want another situation where you have a player that just doesn't come through because they can't get on the field but at the same time i was not banking on the andre johnson being much of a big part of this team early on this year so if he's dinged up the biggest thing is he need more practice than anything. That's what these rookies need even even the guys that were drafted pretty high so missing practices a much bigger deal for a rookie that it is for anybody else. Hey i'm spencer hall. I'm holly anderson. I'm ryan nanny. I'm jason kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast. Ask your avengers of college football podcast it says in the script to riff on what that means and basically what i mean is this all every tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school. We also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early the an unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or oren your favorite podcast app tony. What are your thoughts on that well. We even see the field until week six deontay johnson. I mean it all depends on the nature of the injury i i don't. I'm not sure what what his latest problem is but but it is a big part of <hes> of of becoming a professional football player you have to stay healthy and when he saw it what's quiz golsen he never played in a game in every never even came close to finishing finishing a training camp so i mean anytime a young guy who's never played in the league has injury issues this early in his career. That's that's concerning so oh yeah. I'm i'm trying to <hes>. I don't i don't at this point. I don't think he's going to be put on a populist but i guess to find out <hes> wait and see what happens on friday if he if he plays in that game so this is <hes> this is something i've gotta bring up from the live. Chat andrew is laughing nothing because we are the same age as his dad and so <hes> yeah. I guess i had my <hes> my i spent twelve yesterday so i still feel young because of ed but i did start later in life but <hes> yeah i guess i could possibly be a grandfather soon too because i have a twenty six year old stepson so who knows that might be right around the corner when people start saying. I'm the same age as grandpa. I am hanging it up so just let you know that right now. As far as everything else goes to mark melot had a great comment on the live chat yes speed speed as great as long as it's controlled people forget to <hes> people tend to forget sometimes. She's was misguided missile so that that's that's a true thing to power. Molly was sometimes misguided missile comedy everett he was a great player. I thought he was going to break his next so many times back in the early nineties <hes> so yeah i mean it's a double edged sword with those those players that play with speed need caesar could be mentioned in that breath as a misguided missile but it's it's a style of play tony yeah but as far as berenson comforting comforting thing about him is he's. He's a veteran. He's what twenty nine thirty so you know. He played on the super bowl team last year so so you would think that he would he would be able to control his you know his speed at this stage of his career but <hes> you know <hes> last year you i saw the difference that no speed and that in the middle of the defense how that affected things especially down the stretch so you know i'm just excited that so at least one of the inside linebackers is going to be able to have that thailand ceylon speed that they've been lacking since <hes> shazier went down because they clearly built their entire defense offense around him and and now they need a prototype and hopefully that's <hes> devin bush and sooner rather than later so tony. You're saying that vince williams is not a speedster now. I like vince i'm. I've always been about fast fast but he could be more effective. I mean that's i mean he. He saw how effective he was as a player when he was playing right beside shays ear and you know i mean when he's in there he he asked me more. You know it's it's gonna it's gonna free him up to do what he did. Two years ago eight sacks things of that nature so i'm just excited to see what what bush and barren or or both of them at the same time what you're talking about so many different <hes> schemes that they can use so many different formations. I mean i'm a layman i don't. I don't understand a a lot of it but it's certainly not your grandfather's <hes> three four defense. That's for sure big. Dave let me ask you. This did good bye in here. Get vince williams that new contract absolutely i was so hoping you would ask me vince william's question. Don't sleep sleep on vince williams this year. Thence williams just needed the right kind of linebacker next to him and now not only does he have one. He's got to so how could he could that. Maybe cut into some of his playing time sure but what i think you're going to see is a very effective vince williams this year. I think you're so you're gonna be surprised how much he can turn heads because he has that right type of player next to him again and yes because he was playing to that right with that type of player before for it showed you what he could do. Well you know we talked about players with new attitudes the whole team the coon by that. I've just been i might is. We'll get that copyrighted because i've been using that just ad nauseam <hes> so and oh by the way tony i saw your <hes>. I saw your your quote. I believe it on facebook about spelling ad nauseam if i'm correct on so i had to bring that up but i've been using i've been using team kun-bae like crazy. I'm glad to see that <hes> there were some flared up pensions the other day with a hayward with villanueva and they were joking about it afterwards. That's what happens in the heat. That's what happens when you have passionate. I have no problem with that so it's great to be amped up. It's great to have that new attitude and tweaking something's just upping the decibels upping the intensity. Can that be said for coach mike tomlin what have we seen so far from mike tomlin tomlin and has he up the intensity. Is he going to change. Is he going to tweak a little bit this year. Are we going to see less with the running backs running being the wheels off running backs. Are we going to see just call him upping the ante. This tier is missile midnight for mike tomlin as well dave. Let's start with you. You've got first of all. You've got to remember that you are talking to a former football coach so i've kind of been there with some of the stuff nowhere close to the level of these guys but at least i have an understanding adding of what it's like to to coach football being locker room and everything else there is nothing that we have seen from for mike tomlin this year to make us think that it's going to be any different but the key part of that phrase is that we have seen because the the biggest role of mike tomlin of coming out and answering questions at the end of every every practice and training camp which has been fantastic for helping me write some articles and from 'em taking over after the game added to his press conference everything we think i think that what mike tomlin is doing. They're on the sidelines. The biggest thing what my commas doing is in the locker room every day and we can't see it and we don't yeah no it but i'm hoping it's different because by seeing the players be different. You think that that's also got to be a reflection of what's going on with your coach coach. You know what tony i have. I seen i kind of feel a comb intensity from mike tomlin here. I feel like he has upped the ante. Where are you on this whole thing and we're not talking about and i mentioned threat level midnight. I'm not talking about his job at all. I'm just talking about him upping the ante knowing that this is a year where everybody was under fire in the off season because of some players leaving. There's been in all kinds of talk. You know that this guy is a competitor. He's itching to win. He's so do you think that he's going to turn that dial l. a. up so much more and maybe do some things he has not done. In the past. Yeah we talked about the running backs. I mean kevin covert mentioned that in the off-season about maybe they have to revisit their approach to that and and so that might be one aspect of the changes <hes> he <hes> he agree he to to have a coach that was in charge of challenges which had to be <hes> difficult for him to to admit that he wasn't really really good at that. You know it's not you know coach big egos and and you know we see legendary coaches like chuck knoll refused to change go-carts will come come a long time to open up the playoffs and trust is a franchise quarterback when he finally got one and you saw that paid dividends they want a super bowl with that so you know he mentioned <hes> how the departures of brown and bell a cleansing for the organization for the locker room. I think that was his way of acknowledging that maybe the leadership wasn't quite what it needed to be so i think any any mention to how maybe they were talking a little bit too much and they should <hes> temper that down a bit so so i think he has shown some signs that he's willing to change and <hes> <hes> but like they've said we can't really see that but <hes> <hes> starting with <hes> the regular season we'll we'll finally get to find out <hes> some of these answers so <hes> i'm looking forward to seeing <hes> <hes> how he is and what your number twelve you know 'cause he's still a relatively young man so so people forget the coaches can improve and they can get better later and they can learn so you know <hes>. Let's see what happens. Dave scofield is coach. Mike tomlin a coach of the year candidate. Ah coach of the year candidate has everything to do with how the team finishes you could be the best coach without talent coming in at the beginning and you can't get there or if you make a really big jump coach. Tomlin is not going to be a coach of the year candidate because he's coaching the pittsburgh steelers to you've got a flash to the national media to win that award and guess what the steelers <unk> as an organization or too good to flash the way that you really have to do so. That's why i don't. I'm not saying that he shouldn't be considered but that's why. I think that he wouldn't win it. So if i'm not mistaken i don't think they've ever had any coach of the years <hes> <hes> that might be something for the statman there or might be one eighty nine. That's a that's a good throw that out there tony cause. I think you're right that no one at one point but i'm not sure when it was four yeah i think it would have been in the eighties is an eighty nine. Team was a nine hundred seventeen. That did some beautiful things and she was mark. Stock the drop the four and then treadwell for the broncos joint one in off the uprights <hes> gosh i still i. I need to go back doc in watch that game again to that was that was one heck of the game. There were so many chances for that team there too <hes> i i think they would have beaten cleveland and i think they would went on to the super bowl to play the san francisco forty niners who beat the broncos fifty five to ten. Maybe it's a good thing that they they didn't get there. I like bobby's odds against joe montana roger taylor on jerry rice the but anyways so that's that's a great question. We've asked questions coming in on the on the super chat here and a lot of them are excuse me not the super chip on on the live chat and get your questions in. We'll have some time for a few of them. <hes> one of them that we've got a couple of times. This is on who's going to get more carries. Is it going to be jas jason samuels or benny snail the but he's still junior. Excuse me tony. What do you think i think everybody wants to be benny snell because you know he's at prototypical steeler running back a wrench downhill whereas in in samuels is more of a <hes> swiss army knife kind of a weapon on offense where he could be utilized out of the backfield and <hes> it can even pull it a little bit of tight end but <hes> you mentioned <hes> mike tomlin and changing but <hes> with <hes> if if they started to go more <hes> give carries to connor i think i think they're gonna put samuels in there because he's he's more of a i two weapon in the backfield so i think it's going to be samuels. Dave is now going to be <hes> active week. One yeah snell's. I was going to be active there. That's why i keep saying. I don't think it matters. Here's the two in the three because they dress them both so. I think that we pretty much know who are three running. Backs are even some of the people that occasionally turn heads and camp. We're still talking about practice that i think that's one of the most set positions <hes> the steelers have this year. There are three are going to be let me ask you this and it goes back to mike tomlin and this is we're talking being about him changing and we feel like he's going to change with the running backs especially with us running back situation but is he going to change his approach to the preseason. 'cause it has been tony something we talked about on the the hangover. All of last year was that they really they really missed out by <hes> having been having a mister big chest having levy on belton report but having these the starters not playing a lot of football in the preseason. Is that something that we might see. Some more starters. Get a little more action especially ben rothlisburger this preseason dave i as much as i'd like to see it because i think that would would add to that. Are we ready one equation. I just don't think they're going to change it up. I just think every time i want to say come on just play the guy's a little a bit more playable but more i think back to holding my newborn son in a hospital and wearing a markey's pouncey jersey and watching him go out for the season against the green bay packers <hes>. There's just certain guys that you can't allow that to happen to. I think a lot of young guys are going to play more because the young guys anyone on a rookie contract. You're you're going to see them. I think more than anyone else except for. Maybe james connor because they've already been holding back with the more. I think we'll see more juju than we will. James name's connor but i don't think they're going to change the equation. You know what i <hes>. I was at a buffalo wild wings doing a fantasy football draft and watching that game and i think we were in the third round of my draft. In my draft went to crap also 'cause i also picked jordy nelson right before he went out in that game for the season or something like that for a long time that sees it so my draft went to crap because i was more worried worried about markey's penalty so you know i guess i guess that's a good point tony. Do you think that methodism mistake though yeah as far as the rest factor the beginning of the year you could see the reason for having them play more but like dave mentioned like you mentioned markey's pouncey. I mean all it takes is one play in your season shot and i remember the reactions to to a policy on the injury on facebook and tom care about his team. He was protecting his players that kind of thing. I mean facebook so you're going to have that kind of stuff anyway but i think you know these. Guys are just too afraid of injuries. Every coach really changed in that regard. You're not gonna see ben more than i'd say a couple of series as in the third game that'd be my guess as far as the good thing about about the this current steelers team is your. There's a lot of young guys also happened to be starters so you're gonna wanna get those guys more playing time. Even you know you're risking their health. A injuries your exposure to injuries you know guy like throw edmund for example. He's a starter and but you don't want him to play a lot in the preseason so i think you're going to see some of the younger starters play but but as far as the veterans like decastro castro pouncey ben etcetera even james connor. I don't think you're gonna see a whole lot of playing time. From from those guys in the preseason with that being said james conner has not <hes> he's been getting the veteran treatment in camp and i don't think that's that bad of an idea not because like tomlin came out and said look we really need to see what we have going with these younger guys. We know that what he can do but he did score on the goal all line <hes> during family fest <hes> he looks from the reports he looks pretty sharp when he's in there even though he hasn't been in in there as much but he's like look and tomlin ahead mentioned that these guys will definitely get a chance to sharpen the knives and get a chance chance to <hes> you know get home their game. I i'm just hoping it's enough because we actually saw boswell and get a lot of action last year. He signed his contract right before the right before the green bay game and <hes> really didn't play until week three. I think so and the one place in week four. It's my opinion that you really need to see a little more of some of these guys we see tom brady a lot in the preseason and that's something that has not hurt that team in almost twenty years but with that being said it very well could but but sometimes i think you have to roll the dice and have those guys knocked the rust off in real time so that's just my opinion there but that's a good that debate could go on forever and i don't think any of us would be fully wrong with that being said. If you have anything else going on tony that you want to discuss i'm just i'm just intrigued by a few of the <hes> the battle also that are gonna play out in the preseason like who's going to be a number two tight end and say save your grandpa entry. I mean i wouldn't put my money on on january but you know you never know and as far and and the backup quarterback situation <hes> i think everybody assumes mason rudolph is is gonna it'd be the guy but has he shown enough practice at this point to be the guy and is he going to get ah legit chance in the preseason to show that when i mean by that is he is he going to start any of these games. There's going to be josh dobbs starting every game or at least three of the games and then rudolph coming in so these are the things i'm you know looking forward written and of course devin bush and <hes> things of that nature when these games <hes> start on friday david. I've got a couple of things to clean up here first of all when it comes to <hes> coach the year awards if you're looking at the a._p. Coach of the year which dates back to nineteen fifty seven. There's never been a pittsburgh steeler coach when craft year. That must be what i was thinking of. If you look at the sporting news coach the year that goes back to nineteen forty seven. There's been times were pittsburgh. Steelers coaches want it and they were both won by bill cower ninety two and two thousand four so there's other things coach tomlin's even one one of these awards like gillette coach of the year or something like that. There's all these there's so many players thanks. Let's get them all round up here. We go so so that's just interesting so that's one point i had second point. I had we're talking about the running backs and you know and are we going to have a different approach to them him and <hes> in the regular season remember that we have a different running backs coach and we're not exactly sure why the steelers made a change because they had a very good running backs coach so was that part of the issue was the workload is going to be different because there's a new coach. Was there just a difference in philosophy there. We don't know what was going on on in there so that's just something to keep in mind and i want to mention an old comment from the live chat from russ oberstein or open stein. I'm not sure sure but russ. This is from you. He says we're going to have a better depth with front for fresh legs in the fourth quarter to finish schoff games and that's a key i actually there was an article that i wrote that was published today about the pro. One of the biggest problems steelers had last year was the fourth quarter and their point differential under my tomlin last year was only the third time they had a negative point differential and it was actually quite sustainable. It was thirty. I don't have right in front of me. Do i think i might it was it was minus thirty two and they've only and every other time they've had a negative point wait differential in the fourth quarter. They have not made the playoffs so now there has been one time they did have a positive point differential and they didn't make the playoffs in two thousand twelve but the biggest the biggest reason they had that was two games they had come from behind wins. Where were they outscored opponents. <hes> fourteen nothing nothing so that's a twenty four point swing right there in two games but if you can't get that fourth quarter going on the steelers did not they they they were pretty loud. They scored ninety one points for the season the fourth quarter last year and they're usually well over one hundred. I mean my goodness. They scored one hundred forty five points the fourth quarter in twenty fifteen in two thousand sixteen and even more the year before war so they gave a lot of points in the fourth quarter and they just really didn't score many points in the fourth quarter so that was a great point by russ and i have rambled on for far too long so thank you for this platform mr reiner anthony davis is good with all of that with that being said fellas a one last question for both of you. I'm tony you are in the pittsburgh area so this is probably more for dave for anybody that is outside of the pittsburgh area. How are we watching this game. If we're not at the game i'll be watching shing on katy k. That's they <hes> they broadcast all the preseason games but i think you can see him on the n._f._l. Network if i'm not mistaken that would would have to be a feature game. Is it a feature game dave. I'm sorry the professional. I've got myself sorry about that. You're correct. That is the feature game or the week but not only only is that a feature game the week two games saturday against kansas city is also a feature game the week three game against tennessee. He is a sunday night football game sopher. We know we've got a lot of people outside. The pittsburgh area in the live chat. We have international people in the live. Chat there. You go go. Three of the four games are nationally televised. We've got n._f._l. Network in week one preseason to preseason and n._b._c. week three the preseason. I'm loving it. Even though i might be at the game. I'm just loving it that i can even take the game and come back and watch it if i decide to do another father daughter trip up there this week yes and it has just been mentioned by marple on n._f._l. Net usually we'll do a replay during the week and that's true <hes> they'll they'll do that all the time. I mean sometimes. They'll put them on at two in the morning. You set the d._v._r. For it but my problem is i need to watch live especially when you're doing a <music> articles like a knee jerk reaction. These dave's plugging me we reactions. I don't know what knee dietrich reactions is. It's my real time. Assessment of the game was just watching it and it's basically like being on the couch with me and i'm sure like three people out. There would love to sit by me on the couch. Well actually free dance there my dogs but them right here. I've been next to you wh- whoa we weren't on the same couch. I was giving your space to type your knee jerk reactions but watch a game with b._a._d. Is a okay thank you very much and you didn't get the full steelers central treatment because of the flood ahead last year which was temperature temporarily down. I'm hopefully it will be a backup sometimes the season. You'll get a chance to enjoy that tony. You're always welcome to make a road trip. We can do the hangover together. Heavy so ah it's <hes> three hours so it's not that far you can hang out with dave and tony and even <hes> even we might get jefferson <hes> ah good old jefferson hartman to come out and hang out with us but <hes> i leave in his house. He's not going to do it. Hey i'm the editor chief verge host of the verge cast. We even revamping the virtuous more morally coming out with episodes twice a week. Sometimes even a third bonus episode on tuesdays talked to influential people around the world attack like microsoft founder bill gates and other tech exactly founder of lime scooters the c._e._o. Beyond me we must have been talking a lot of reporters and academics. The a major pressing policy issues in tech like facebook's content moderation doing great he tubes harassment plan or lack there of and whether or not the government should break up amazon which maybe should and then every friday i sit down with executive editor and paul miller for chat show we cover the latest in tech news and product reviews and our other reporters around the verge. That show is a party. Listen listen to it. You can hear all that more. If you subscribe the virtuous wherever you get your podcast would love for you to listen and join us so again. Subscribe to the virtuous wherever you get your podcast. We'll see there so for some reason. This is great. Rhino toll wants to stay away from his doritos. Yeah i'm actually one that would would probably <hes>. I'm not afraid to steal the food. <hes> i love to snack during those games usually it's. It's a snickers bars in what was the other thing. Snickers and hotdogs burgers and hot dogs hot dog hot dog. I am a burger guy more four but anyways with that being said cathy four. She's got a work friday night and she's really upset about that. <hes> she threw in five dollars dollars of her hard working into the super chip <hes> are working the super chat we will <hes> here's the thing about cathy if you have an opportunity there will me alive threat on b._t._s.'s. If you could go ahead and take a look at your phone. Your friends in the nation will be glad to keep you up to date on on everything that's going on. That's why you check in the beat at all times for that. There's so many chances to <hes>. There's so many chances in the middle of the game during the game anytime to find out what's going on dave. We not only that i was. I was told that there will be a post game. Show oh live on youtube. It's part of the b._s._e. Family podcasts after the game friday night with jeff hartmann and lance williams <hes> i that's the rumor i'm i'll believe it when i see it. If lance williams is gonna watch a preseason game and then talk about it but we'll see if that happens but we aren't we are scheduled out and we did not get to announce our giveaway last thursday our our new giveaway which is good because we had the tickets today with the decastro football so we're hoping to announce that this thursday so make sure you stay tuned for that. That's going to be a fun ongoing thing that we're going to do. It creates this asks. Is there a way to watch the games if you don't have n._f._l. Network their game pass yes <hes>. That's something doug. Johnson just mentioned gain pass. I had trouble with n._f._l. Game pass last year. I was trying to watch the first preseason game. It was awful. Kevin said maybe i who i watched at least three games. There were regular season games. Were streamed live on yahoo last year. I don't know that they have the rights to the preseason game because of game pass. That's a good question to look into but then again. Everybody knows my connection problems from time to time so committee. That's why i had. I had a hard time. I ended up <hes> like listening to it. I had better action listening to it and then i stayed up late and and i did the best i could with that article but that's never going to happen again so <hes> now i have a backup plan and it usually has me knocking on the door we're of one jeff hartmann and trying to trying to leech off of him so that's something that i might possibly do <hes> ross oberstein oberstein uh-huh russell. Was this russell russia ross. Oh says no question just thanks. Thanks you guys are the best loves fans in live chat. It's like we're all family and you know what we feel that way to you. Take your time to go ahead and hang out with us when we do these shows and these names. They're not nude us we talk about we talked about you off line and it's funny because there's there's no venom in these live chats. It's awesome. We are a family that we love the same team and that's exactly what it is and we forget about about that sometimes in the comments sections sometimes on facebook when everybody's like wanting to kill tony when tony is getting threats and dave's mowing the lawn and has to stop to clean up that ask hey i gave up the community manager role because as of my new role with the website so tony stir the pot all you want to now brother well facebook. There's no there's no filter there. I mean they they come at me from all different directions uh-huh facebook's kind of rough. That's that's a different. That's a different fan hood but <hes> with that being said yet. We are a team. We're family you guys. Is there a part of the show and what makes this show fun for us to do and <hes> we really look forward to it tony and i it's kind of bittersweet for us because we have done the hangover for the past couple years with friends of the show that would call in and i'm i'm gonna. I'm gonna mention some of them. We we had nick from marietta. We had ken from jersey. We had the great veto mankato from jersey the call and all the time we'd love to hear you guys on the chat <hes> but they were a part of our village in one of the best moments we had last year was two days before christmas. We were all upset about at the steelers lose the new orleans and then ken from jersey brought ken senior on the show and it was just it was it was for show and it made us forget about the game it's realized the humanity of steeler nation and he talked about how he began big not from the pittsburgh area but became a steeler fan just oppose his brother back in the seventies and it was just it was just fantastic and it was great for the big right before christmas because you felt you really just felt the pride of being a member of steeler nation it feeling like family so thank you russ ask for saying that i love it and <hes> yeah kevin ja. The new orleans game hurt last year but if you're on that podcast it felt a whole lot lot different. Tony will agree. It felt a whole lot different from <hes> a minute number one one thirty. Excuse me a minute ninety. Excuse accuse me. We do have a question the live chat it is for <hes> tony and it's about. I have lost it here but i remember the question so i can't ah joe greene. How did tony predict for the season. <hes> i predicted ken. Then which i think is a pretty standard prediction so i'm not really going out on a limb but i think that's going to be after winning division. One eleven jeff's going thirteen if i'm not mistaken and dave where were you at also at eleven you and i were very close even on our game to game picks. We were seeing eye to eye on a lot of the time okay so i just opened up the kennedy word with a new orleans game. I love it. That's what i love about you guys. Yes i agree. It broke my heart to but we did get hose but if there's any yeah oh yeah joe hey got hose but i think you'll really spilt. They got host a whole lot worse in the n._f._c. championship game game so i mean if that gives you any consolation idol no but should they have been hosting that game because if they don't win that game against the steelers that would've still been up in the air remember. I can't remember how it played out the last week this season. There were no matter saturday but i was signing off about seven minutes ago grind being said that's the great thing i love. This live chat. I love all of you. I appreciate it <hes> dave and tony. Thank you so much next time that we're speaking. It's going to be a real hangover. It is going to be either a really glorious hangover because of a steeler preseason. I don't care appreciate a win is a win. A love preseason wins. I feel good about them. Uh that that shows that they're practicing winning if they lose than their stuff to build upon that's fine but we still will have a game to talk about and we have been wanting a game for a long long time since december thirtieth and it's back baby so with that being said for behind still curtain for my good friend dave scofield and my good friend tony few. My name is brian anthony davis you. My friends have just been hung over good night.

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Standard is the Standard: What is holding the Steelers back from success?

Behind the Steel Curtain

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Standard is the Standard: What is holding the Steelers back from success?

"What is going on Pittsburgh Steeler fans, Jeff Arvin, editor of behind the curtain dot com with you for another episode of the standard is the standard the flagship podcast. It'd be TSE and with me as always my co host Lance Williams, Lance, how you doing this evening. My man feeling good with the little sweater on its fall, a little collar, trying to bring a little level of sophistication to the listeners isn't it really hot in California all the time. No, not northern California gets and fall, and the leaves turn and all that good stuff crisp, all right folks, weatherman our Roker over there. Grisly you started something see now on a live chat. I'll come on now. You just killed me. Okay. Anyways, you're here to hear nothing but Steelers, and that's what we're going to give you. And they're coming off a really poor performance on Sunday night football when they lost twenty six to fourteen to the Baltimore Ravens on at Heinz field, they have yet to win a game at home if yet to win back to back games this season, and it just looks bad. And that's the best way I can put it. And we talked about this at nauseam on our post game shows. If you haven't listened to that, whether you're listening in audio form on one of our platforms or whether you're watching on YouTube, go back and watch that one that he want our exact knee-jerk reaction to the game. We're not gonna talk too much about the game. That was because we've already covered it. We are going to identify some heroes and zeros though from the game that was so Lance, let's go over with. You can go first just to your hero, and then we'll get zeroes after that. I think Chris Boswell is the hero Boswell, looks like he's right the ship in terms of being inconsistent with his field goals, fill goals were rate right down the middle really look like the Boswell that we all know. So that's a positive or team that's going to need to score as many points as possible. It's good that you place kicker is back in the fall and he looked very good at a game on Sunday. I agree with that. And you know, that's the, that's the obvious answer. I when I wrote my winners and losers call him. He was the only winner I had, and it was just because he didn't miss. But for me, the more I think about it, you know, one of the big question marks coming into the season was safety and who's gonna play free safety because Mike Mitchell is gone and who's gonna do well, they knew Sean Davis over. I have to be honest, the more I watched the film, the more I've been impressed with Sean Davis. He has yet to have someone play alongside him for Tuesday games. For instance, in week, one O's tro Edmunds we to was more Vernet. We three was. I wanna say a mixture of both. And then in week four was drill Edmonds because Burnett is hurt, so I didn't press with Sean Davis. I thought he's, I think he's played well. They're asking him to do a lot. And if you watch, I mean, they're sending as a free safety. He's he's blitzing a lot, and that's all you saw what happened to troll Edmonds on Sunday night when he single high, maybe they shouldn't blitz Sean Davis's much, but I will say this. I've been pleasantly surprised with Sean Davis. I think he's tackling. Better this year, Lance, you may disagree adamantly. But I I, I've been impressed and I'll put him on my heroes list for week four. The defense is garbage. I can't. There's no heroes on that side of all those guys are garbage. They're not gonna find much back push back from me in that regard, but let me ask you this. If you were name another hero on either side of the ball from week four, you're gonna pick and there ain't no heroes. Minds one. Let's get zeros yet to narrow it down to one Lancet can't say the offensive line defensive line is one player who has eroded to we believe they've been say been Ross burgers said I wasn't good enough. Instill our nation said, we know then Roff was burgers. Absolutely zero for six. In the second half on third down, Steelers offense as a result, don't convert any third downs. Time of possession is flipped thirty five, twenty four somewhere with some second. So it rounds out to sixty or sixty time possession totally slip because they can't convert their downs. And that's largely because been rothlisburger with scattershot in the second half as hot as well as he threw the ball in the first half. He was that bad in the second half in looking at it on film. It wasn't as if. Plays didn't work it was, he'd missed throws. He was bad. He was right. He has to play better and he was an absolute zero in the second half. And for this game on a break LAN rule, I just told you can only pick one player. I don't care. I'm picking too. I'm great right now. I'm putting out an all points bulletin APB for Cam Hayward and Steph onto it because honestly, haven't seen him in those are the guys that everyone said, you know, man, they're great. They're going to be dominant Steph onto. It's healthy, came Hayward's coming off a double digits axes, and it's going to be just there and we reckon it in there. They're not wrecking anything. I not sure Steph onto his registered a sack yet. I don't think so. Cameron Heyward might have one and a half to the most. They're, they're not. They're not factors at all in when you have linebackers that are as weak as the Steelers. Linebackers you can't have. You have to have those two guys taken up blockers to let them try and make plays. They're one of the reasons why the Steelers defense has not been very good in to me. I've, I washed the filming. Again, I looked for him and I couldn't find them. They were just getting washed out. Every play is driving me nuts. There's studios to put a lot of money into those two players in for that. They're not paying. They're not paying out right now. So I'm gonna say Cam, Hayward, Steph onto where you've been, where are you been? I if you watch the film Lansky seen anything that I'm not actually with Jimmy, but you know what I think the ravens did is they made a tactical decision. They said, we will double team these guys, and we will survive blocking both of those linebackers with tight ends. We can handle one with a tackle, can handle the other one we're tied in and we'll be okay it. 'cause all works in concert. If those guys on the edges aren't working right, you know, it may not work for the guys inside. Somebody has to win to take pressure off of somebody else, but you could clearly see the ravens said, we'll double those two tackles and we will live with those Outside Linebackers wanted one and we don't think they can win and they did not win. And if they don't play better up front. Tastes like chicken or maybe or maybe it will taste like a sweet tea. Either way. It's just not good. It's not good at all. So there's this heroes and zeros from we four. We could have had a lot of Devers from that game, but let's move on. We're not moving on from the game necessarily. This is where we get nervous tacky portion of the show. That's where we both find an interesting statistic from union the team moving forward, they beat a game that was, and we think it shine some light on what's going on with the Steelers right now lands. I know you have a good one. Once you fire off your stack staticky stat of the week, and I want to get credit to Adam Schefter I think Adam Schefter and the guys at ESPN stats insistence research, put this out. I think it was Monday and their stat was the following. The Steelers are last in the NFL in rushing yards. Forty three point three yards per game. They're only rushing for two point eight yards per rush. That's the last in the NFL since week. Two. And they have nineteen rushing yards that they had in the week. Four game against the ravens was the lowest in a game since nineteen seventy listeners. I was born in one thousand nine hundred seventy. That's forty eight years ago, the nineteen rushing yards. Those rushing yards in those rushing statistics show an alarming pattern with this Pittsburgh Steeler offense. One. The quarterback is trying to play hero ball and put it all on his back. They need balance. He's not good enough just to be that type of quarterback. They need to run the football to try to put the offense on schedule so they can convert third downs. And Secondly, he has too much control in the office. He just has too much control. At some point. Somebody's going to have to pull him back and say, look, this isn't working. You're leading the National Football League in passing yards and your team evens in last place. Something has to change and asked to come for the whole or native from the head coach, but been throwing the ball forty plus times. That's a recipe for not making the playoffs. Yeah. I mean, you go back earlier in his career. I remember the stat line for Rothlisberger when he was young was two hundred yards. Passing Abia touchdown. You Hobie stayed clean and the turnover ratio, and they've ran the ball and they were successful. And whenever Ben through one to save was over to fifty maybes over three hundred, the only one like once when that happened and when you go back and he's had those games where he threw six touchdowns and things of that nature in eastern for five hundred yards. But in those games, rarely to the sewage do well, they, they're a balanced program, but I'm going to go to the other side of the ball for there's a lot of stats on the defense, but here's some again. Yes, VN on top of it and they're going back some aways to find some of these statistics hero the Steelers defense, the first four games, the opponents points. They've allowed one hundred sixteen so far. In four games as the worst since nineteen sixty eight. Opponents total touchdowns if given a fourteen total touchdowns the worst since one thousand nine hundred sixty eight. This is pre Chuck knoll folks and they were bad. Okay. And then lastly the next opposing passing touchdowns twelve in the first four games. That's the worst ever. They've never had a divas as bad even pre Chuck knoll, and they were awful and then totally ours. They've given up one thousand six hundred eighty two total yards in four games that is the worst through four weeks in the NFL since the merger and the most ever in Pittsburgh Steelers history. Let me say that again the hunt one thousand six hundred eighty two yards through three or four games is the worst through four weeks in the NFL since the NFL and AFL merger in it's the worst ever in Pittsburgh Steelers history. I don't know what else to say. I really don't. That's it's awful. Awful back and say, Jeff is you know? And this is this is for my listeners that come from the inner city that might have seen a fighter to walk in home. When somebody on the background says, just put your hands up, please, which hands up at least don't just let them get. She put your hands up. This defense is, oh my, oh, my I was using other analogy, but in this environment and climate I cannot. So I'm trying to self edit a little bit better now. Now that the stakes were tad bit higher. Go. Amid defense, put your heads of please at least try to don't let him just hits you in the face, like. Protect yourself, at least duck and cover. That's bad. That's bad. They're taking all the bullets Jif. None of the bullets are missed it. When they're in the foxhole digits, getting hit with grenades bombs, nobody surviving. Goodness, Jeff is leaked it's beyond leaking, Jeff. Taking a shot in the bow and the ship is just going down. Man, it is. It's got water. They better get the buckets and start throwing the water over to size, man. I don't. I don't know if the boat is stay afloat. Let me ask you this because this is a question that I thought of today. It's cutting grass thinking about the show coming up in this kinda ties into the main topically wanted to have tonight. The main topic was what unit on the Pittsburgh Steelers is affecting the football team to nose in a negative way. In other words, is it the offense or is it the defense? And we'll talk about that in a second. No one in. I did not hear anyone not you and you're one of the more pessimistic fans that you'll have your first time. Listener lands tells it like it is he doesn't sugarcoat things. He's realist. That's great. It's good to bounce that off of me because I'm the eternal optimist, but still no one saw this team being this bad. No one saw this defense being this bad. So I ask you. What happened is on offense. You can talk lady on bell and you can talk about poor performance by number seven, this defense. I mean, I didn't think I knew they weren't going to be great. I knew it's not going to be. It wasn't going to be the early two thousands defense, but I I didn't think they'd be a step back from last year is exactly what was going on. We follow the money, follow the money, follow the assets, all the assets on the offense. Aside of football, if you go to over the cap dot com, do you look at the allocation of money? It's probably about ninety million offense sixty five million defense. So you have a, you have an allocation deficit. They're looking at the talent on the offense. Aside of football, look at the offensive line. Look at Ben look at bell. Look at, look at juju, look at all that town on the office society ball, look at the defense. And I think you have one player on defense that in the top five at their position. There is a talent deficit there, and they've missed on some first round draft picks, and there's no easy solution in sight to the to the loss of Ryan shazier. You couple all that together plus their counter MP tween schemes. I think the trying to still play three four stuff trying to incorporate Tomlin's Tampa to cover to type stuff. So they're kinda in between schemes as well. Lack of talent missing on some draft picks not all the resources are on the defense. It just looks bad in. This is what she get your right into. I wanna take it a step further and you hit on this a little bit. I'm glad you did and it was draft picks because you talked about the allocation of money and you started rattling off names on offense. And so I really when you're naming these names, I'm thinking, what are they drafted into new Brown, six round Levy on bell. Second round Ben Rothlisberger first marquees Faouzi I David decastro I Marcus Gilbert second Ramon foster Alejandro Villanueva undrafted free agents juju Smith Schuster second James washing. Second you, I Rogers undrafted free agent if he ever comes back. So, yeah, they have some players that were really high draft than he. Okay. Go to the defensive side Cam Hayward, first Steph onto its second. Joe Haden not gonna count him, but he was the first round pick he they, they did not draft him Sean Davis. Second. Thence Williams, sixth TDY at first, but do pre I and so yet they're, they're definitely spreading it around. I mean, are already burns first, I Cameron Sutton. Third year, you have all these different players might kill them Lazar undrafted by New England. So for me, the allocation of money does show Stephanie where the precedence is where the where the prime real estate is so to speak. But for me, I look at where they've drafted these players and they've just missed, like you said, they've just missed you can't you that first round pick in my opinion, you can always hit home runs. It's gotta be at least a double. Journalists Jones was a strikeout looking, and then you have budget pre. He seems like a swinging bunt single so ad. It. That's the see, yeah, money is one thing, trace it back to the draft and you'll see another story altogether. Terrell Edmonds. The book still out on him, but first-round pick. So they've spent picks on the defense is they just haven't panned out my gosh, just think if they could draft defensive players like they draft wide receivers, that's you're talking about a much different team, and I'm glad you illustrated that. 'cause I read an article earlier today about that. Just it. It's drafting, you know, twenty five in higher consistently for years in the difficulty with that because you don't have access to the best of the best. You know, you're, you're really projecting when you get to twenty five in greater those guys are in essentially second round picks. So you know, so it gets more difficult to try to hit those guys, but there was a time you know, dare I say in the cower air. Were first rounders were almost guaranteed slam dunk, almost pro bowlers all pro just slam dunk guys where every first rounder date they kinda hit. They hit a lot of guys, you know, under cower. So you know, we really appreciate Chad. Scott was a first round. Pick the players heard the term Johnson was a first round pick or whatever his name was as name, the receiver from Michigan state, it was awful. But if you think Chad Scott chess, God would be the corner on his team currently. I mean, I mean that that's where it is right now bring back DeWayne Washington man, that's need. Did they try charming, they drafted draft, but you got Troy. You got Aaron Smith, you know, you got Casey Hampton, you got Joey porter until you got Clark Hagans. I found pig, but he's paying out good player. I mean, I don't know. I mean, they they've got a lot of work on defense and it ain't getting easier on Sunday now now, and we're going to talk about that game coming up with the Atlanta Falcons here. Second before that are true and false segment, it's been a everyone just that's all they talk about. Maybe I don't know. So true or false basically where we land tonight, both come up with these questions statements and we debate whether they're true or whether they're false. All right. So this first one is very basic. A lot of people were talking about it even though we've just hit the quarter pole, the Steelers will make the playoffs this season lands true or false false. Okay. Are you going to land just? Yes, I am. That the defense is taken all too much water. I don't think they can say that ship is sinking. They just don't have enough on that in, and the offense is not going to be good enough to save them. And so they're not gonna make the playoffs. The defense is just too bad. Just can't sustain it. It just can't sustain it. You saw those. You heard those numbers. Let's not saw those numbers. You heard those those numbers. Those numbers are fifty year bad. So I, I don't think there's any scheme. Any brilliant coaching Eureka move. That's come up to save you from the fact that you're inside. Linebackers can't cover and you have one corner and you don't get Pash rush. Okay. I'm going to say, I'm gonna, say false. I agree with you. I don't think they're gonna make the playoffs. I think this is two dozen, fourteen written all over it. If you remember two dozen fourteen, they started, oh, and four battled their way back somehow in finished eight eight and we're one field goal kick away under is a Kansas City, San Diego game. One. Gig away for making the playoffs. I don't know what that was. I don't wanna know what that was. So I'm going to grade you false. The Steelers will not make the playoffs in this year. Hey, I hope I'm wrong. Let's go to the next one. But the way Jeff, that was actually us. Trying to look at the live chat that was actually a mistake. He turned the volume down before you do that anyway. Oughta work. I phones. He was born in nineteen seventy. Give them a break. Okay. So the next one is amongst their eight home games at Heinz field. The Steelers will finish above five hundred at home lands true falls. So we have left have Atlanta left on Cincinnati at home. They got Cleveland at home, who else they have at home. It's only doing on New England. How does four already played two. So they're going to third, this were missing one. I'll look it up. Yeah. Well, I don't wanna for did. But then they're not gonna finish five hundred home. Okay. Yeah, it's it's funny. I'll never forgive this. But my dad said this to me when I was a young kid, he said, Jeff, it's easy in the NFL. You just went all your home games and you split on the road in your twelve and four. In theory, it's simple. So here we gather, let's look at their home slate. So at Heinz field, they have Atlanta this Sunday. I won't give you that pig. Bye week they host the Browns. Okay. Then. Knowing that in week ten, they host on Thursday night football, the Carolina Panthers. I don't know about that when fifty fifty. Okay. Then in week thirteen they host the Los Angeles chargers. They win that one. Okay. And then they host the New England Patriots in week fifteen. We all know what that is. The dub, then. And then we seventeen finish the regular season by hosting the Cincinnati Bengals. Win now. Okay. So they're already and to the falcons. Rounds. Let's say they'd be Carolina. I'll turn Carolina into win. So I'm saying three wins and Mikey my prediction today. So three wins. For me. I'm gonna say a push will false. I'm gonna say phones. I think they finished five hundred. I think foreign for at home this year. So the stadium was usual, finish above five hundred. I say that they finished at five hundred. So therefore I think the statement is false because that's that's a tough home slate. That's a tough. It's false. It's false. I will think you don't think five hundred. Do you think what three and five. I don't wanna give away. We got a little bit. You're right. Tease it a little bit just touched. Okay, let's go. We can't go week without talking about this Jag. Okay. Lady on bell will report during the bye week and be ready to play in week, seven lands, true or false. We'll false because you definitely add the ready to play because he's big as a house. So I mean that he will be in the lineup, they're not using the two weeks on him that he'll be on the, he'll be potentially on the field whether he, whether he joins Jenny Craig now, or later is not important. You think that the way beyond bell you're saying that he's not gonna report? Yes. All he's the joint Jeffey Greg. Say false. I wouldn't trust anything Levy on says. Has records his records are bad, is word seems to be bad. And I, I would probably guess he probably hasn't talked to the organization. He's probably just saying this through social media and he's on a jet ski eating cheesecake and no false. He's not coming in. I don't believe that guy plus the fact that he doesn't have to Yardley knows that they're going to transition tag him next year. That's come out that they said that they were gonna transition, tack him next year, and he doesn't have to report to a Cruces, it'd be unrestricted free agent. So if they put the transition tag on that means he gets the top ten in salary, which is much cheaper because he has reported and he negotiate with teams. So I don't even think it's in his interest to come in now unless he thinks is values gonna drop significantly, but it's going to drop whether retains one hit or not this year because he's older but no false. He won't report. I don't trust anything. He says, I'm going to say true. I don't trust what he says. I think he is very flabby right now, but I do think he realizes that for every week that he stays away, not only hurting the Steelers, and I think he is still really tight with a lot of guys on that team. I don't think the bridges were burnt completely when he didn't show up and we won. And I think that he realizes that he has to go out and and he has to put out to get a big deal. Because right now UC Todd earliest playing well, David Johnson, not too much, but there are some running backs rather in there showing out there playing well, and he's sitting on a jetski eating cheesecake he's dead. So I think he realizes that it would be in his best interest to actually get on the football field and play. And so I think that he's looking at week six by week getting there, maybe ten the practices prior to the players leaving, you know, get acclimated again. And then when we seven, he's ready to, he's he's on avail. We'll put it that way. He's vailable doesn't mean they're gonna use them doesn't mean he's ready to be used, but he's available. Okay. Jeff. What you said makes a lot of sense. If would he was doing already made a lot of sense. That's true. So you know that. Requires some thinking and some planning in a solid team. But so I don't know if he has the team or is done any solid thinking. So, yeah, gotta think to get to your conclusion. Irap lyrics, bad ones. Like I said, I had to listen to one of those songs to get. We're for an article and yet. Listen to it over and over again to get the actual lyrics, correct in man, I and I'm not a Rabkona sort of like you are lands. I, I don't mind it. Not those guys like I can't stand. It was awful and it was dreadful. Scare, you have to say, lyrics, Jeff was awful. I know it was bad. That's painful. You're like lyric lyrics, like. I don't know. It was pay. That's probably been the hardest thing you've had to do since running the website in having listened to bell. It's hard and McConnell sort. It was bad. He, he thinks he's really good, and he thinks a lot of fans love it. When on Twitter, all they do say NAN leave you on bell straight fire just because they know he's gonna re tweet of. So anyways, we're getting off the topic at hand. Let's go to the next one and that is this week. I'm sorry, what will hold that one? We'll go to the one that I thought of, which is awesome because I thought the Steelers won't rush for one hundred yards in a game again, if flash until lady on returns. True, true, true. The quarterback won't give it to a running back. So that's true. He doesn't want. He doesn't want to end it to running back so true. I'm gonna say false because they play the Browns at one more time. And I think that nobody put up over one hundred again if they wanted to. And I didn't put up a hundred on a couple of other teams if they wanted to some. Say falls, I think they will rush for over one hundred dollars per game. Even if if four when lady on Bill ever decides to show up. So I'm gonna say that they will. I think that I think that the last game, it's tough because you wanna you wanna hate Ben for throwing the ball that much, but for crying out loud, they they, they're down fourteen nothing in five minutes into the first quarter you, you're going to have to throw the ball, eventually get yourself back in it. So. Yeah, there's a lot of game left there. There is. There is, let's be honest made it. They didn't start the game. Well, the offense doesn't get a free pass here. They didn't start thinking well, but on top of that. If it weren't for hours cones fumble, they'd have been down twenty one of three in the blink of an eye in if you the case you're chuckling. Absolutely. I mean, but you know, the quarterback in his mind's going. Throw it forty, five. Here we go. Vuk eighty buckle up. Okay. The last one here. Lance of this one. On Sunday, Heinz field against Landon week five, the Steelers will run the ball, at least twenty times drew revolves. False because we want to be down. They're going to be down, so they're not going to run it twenty times. So they're going to have to play catch up again. So he's gonna check it. Another forty five times plus. I mean, bid has this thing been will probably be close to two thousand yards passing by the time. We get to Monday through what five games. So it's the bench show, and you know, we'll just have to see if he's good enough to carry them to victory and that goes back to one of the peace or do you wanna do it later in the show? And we were talking about what side of the ball is, is the cause of all of this. We'll get to that. What do you wanna do this? We'll get to that next. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, yeah. No way. No way they'll run it twenty times they're gonna be behind in. He's scrapped the running game and say, you throw it. Different about Kate, be big bid and get my numbers US. You ready for this. It's true. The Steelers argh run the ball twenty times. I think that that doesn't necessarily mean it's James. Connor getting twenty carries. But I think between like frying Switzer maybe a quarterback scramble James. Connor, there's all count as Russia's. I. Not one of Rosen's Manami can will run the ball twenty times in, I think because if you want follow the Steelers long enough in close enough and especially during the Ben Rothlisberger era, they have a knee jerk reaction to criticism. And so what everyone writing the throne too much throwing too much then all this area. What are they going to do? They're going to come out. Run run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run. It would be like flaming your head against the wall. That's what they're gonna do. I would be stunned in, but there with this team. Good, good going to rant real early w t.f. No, no. It's just a real quick goes to your point because I was thinking the same exact thing. You know what, you know that's going to be like that. And you know what that is. That's been Rothlisberger basically doing their big Earl, Thomas flip off the the fans flip off the media, flip off, everybody see you want me to run it yet. We'll run it nine straight times. Yeah, we'll just declare, we're going to run it and I'm gonna show you the running games not going to work see believe in me. That's just that's just the immature response to it in my opinion, from the quarterback, but he's not being held accountable. You know, Thomas not gonna, hold them accountable and either feet ner. They're all too close. I mean, we know that the running game competence to passing game, vice versa. They complement in sales. You can coordinate an offense around the run, incorporating it in in a way in which runs in in. It all works in concert then has never really believed in a running game been believes in been, which is fine. But look, it ain't working. You almost get fifteen hundred yards passing. You got one win. That's my ran out. Stop. No, you're right. And that's exactly what it is and it happened or Haley. I'm sure it'll happen. Countless other times too, so. Okay. There you have that. Let's get into the topic of the day and that is which side of the football is negatively impacting this team. The most offense or defense will exclude special teams because even though Chris Boswell has been awful. I don't think special teams is the reason the team is necessarily losing. So go ahead lands, you can go, I would side you think is impacting the most and why? Well, part of my rat leads to my answer, I think is the offense. I think everybody's going to be surprised that I say the offense. And the reason I say that is we all know the defenses bad. We just know it's bad. We kinda have an expectation Steeler fans because we're Steelers fans, and the history and the tradition. The Steelers still curtain, hey, man, but the pertinence been ripped off the. It's been ripped off. I mean, you have no curtains in this house. Everybody can look for your house and see everything. There are no curtains. The offense has to help defense all the towns off. It's a sign of football if they're not winning, it's because of the offense. The offense needs to complement this bad teeth. It's it has to possess the football. It has to convert third downs, and it needs to score touchdowns in keep this defense off the. Field to defense is bad in there ain't no help coming in during no guy. The Muffin man down in Florida, eating cheesecake on a jet ski. It's gonna jump in and save the defense eight. No help come in. It is what it is. You know, you have to be darn near perfect on that side of ball. So to me, it's on the offense. The offense has to carry the weight. All you can expect out of this deep. It is a stop here too in. That's it. They're going to give up twenty three twenty four twenty five will close to thirty points game, but that's what this defense is right now, and it's going to be bad for the remainder of the year. They wanna go to the playoffs if they wanna win a championship. It is all on this offense. And there are a one win team because this offense cannot convert third, Dell, three of eleven three of. Eleven to of ten. That ain't good enough. They gotta do the heavy lifting in right now. This defense is just clawless in his just please hold your hands up. Don't let them beat you that bad, but it's all on his offense. So this office is going gonna take this team wherever it needs to go for the sake of argument. I'm going to say the defensive. A lot of the reasons you just said they for as bad as the Steelers. Third down offense as their third down defenses is equally as horrible, and I'm watching it conscious get off the field. Where's the fifty? Six action last year. It wasn't just the fifty six sacks last year where it was the pressure. That's what I don't understand the there is not even pressure. I mean I go back to Kansas City game. Patrick Mahomes had enough time to go back. Check his Twitter feed, tweet a couple things, put a post on Facebook selfie for Instagram, and still hit Travis Kelsey on time for. A touchdown. They weren't anywhere near him and that goes the personnel that goes the scheme, but it's just not good enough. Yes, the offense is bad. Yes, the offense. It could be considered the greatest letdown because of the potential. They hold that at the same time. This is a defense. If you can just get a few stops for a few more puns this offense. If they ever get going, we'll have a chance to actually lead this team if they never given this stops if they never get those extra possessions back to the offense. It's a moot point. Anyways, in the offense could be clicking on also Anders still find themselves in a hole. So usually offense, I say defense, I think what the moral the story is this team is just awful. I almost said sucky because that seems like it's right that sucky it's a word. No, it's not word, but I just made it up. The Steelers are very sucky right now. So. Succsssful fast. How about that? Yeah, it it. It just it's a different place. Absolutely. And you could go either side of the football to be honest, there's enough blame to go around for everyone. So with that said, let's shift gears now looking ahead to week. Five. The Atlanta Falcons come to Pittsburgh. I wanna say the falcons he to into Lance, talk your head. I'm not sure what the records. I know they got beat by New Orleans and laws. Yeah. Three losses, long on one in three one and three. Okay, so lands, it's time prediction time. I wanna know what you think about the game on. I wanna know what your, what's your prediction for this upcoming showdown at Heinz field prediction. Let me just give you just a couple of stats from Atlanta's office. There averaging twenty nine points a game, which is six. Their average nine point one yards per tint, which is third, which means their vertical breasts downfield throwing team. They're rating the porter. BAC is one fourteen which is fifth, Matt. Ryan has ten touchdown passes and they've only given up ten sacks in a rank eleven in with sixteen passing plays of twenty yards or more. The other thing about this offense is they're very good on third down. They convert at forty eight percent, which is fourth in an actual football league in a converted sixty six percent in the red zone, which is seven. I say, all that to say this offense is lights out. This often scores a lot of points. It moves the ball and has weapons combing in Freeman or both gonna play on Sunday. Freemans going to be back. You've got Julio Jones. You've got Ridley. You get Muhammed sununu, you have tied ins, they flex you out there multiple, they'll spread you, they'll go, twelve, they'll go, eleven, they'll go ten personnel. They do a lot of different things. This is highly. Well, scheme Horton needed off instead as explosive. The red zone issues have been solved Sarkozy and had some issues with the red zone stuff, but it's been solved there rolling on offense, terrible on defense rolling on offense. I think this Steeler defense has no shot in hill at stopping this off. It's and typically, if you listen to the show in the past and I haven't been doing Jeff this year, but I'm gonna come back with Iran because I think it's time for Ron. You see how that Ryan that's better than lady on bail time for Ron there. Simple. Keep it very simple. The only hope is to play rope a dope. 'cause the only hope that this offense has or excuse me, this defense has is the play no single high. Every coverage concept has to be supported by two high safeties because of Ridley and Julio Jones. You can play cover to cover four play covers six. You can play to men, but everything has to be supported by two high safeties and they have to tackle and you've gotta hopefully get pressure with four or five. You cannot blitz in his game. If you do, it has to be very selective with zone play behind it because they have to go to the rope, a dope tactic. You can't give up the big shots. They have to decrease the number of big plays in the passing game that they're getting up so they don't get behind. So the game doesn't turn into a Ben Rothlisberger game, but there's nothing about. The way this defense has been playing that suggests they can stop it land. So my prediction is I think Atlanta wins this game in a shootout thirty five thirty one. That's interesting. I agree with all these in. It's not an easy game to predict because I think both defenses are awful. I think the booth offenses, although Atlanta's is performing better right now offices head of the potential to really light scoreboard. I can't get fact. You said there everything what twenty nine points per game. And that's nine in the league is you said nine, six, six, six, Phil man. Man still thirty game. He's be tops in the league by four, and they're not even in the top five that just shows you the trends in today's two thousand eighteen NFL man scoring is just at nuts. It's under premium. They're giving it away and Pittsburgh Steelers defense gives it away a lot. So I think. My head tells me that there's no chance of Steelers when this game, but then my heart tells me that there's certain factors about Mike Tomlin team and Ben Rothlisberger in particular that made me wanna pick Pittsburgh. They rarely lose back to back games. He normally has them play well off the really bad loss. Think about the way they played on Monday night after they lost the chiefs the week prior. They're at home. They haven't won a home game. I think that matters. And so you have these tangible things like the what you talked about, what the offense versus defense, etcetera, etcetera. And then you have these intangibles, the motivation, the ability to step up their game. And for some reason, and I really can't tell you in a black and white fashion. Why? I think the Steelers are gonna win this game, and it's not. I don't want you thinking this is like a joy pick, although you will say that and that's fine. I've earned that right. I've earned that name that tag. I just think there's, I think this is a game that they win. I think this team is not only think it's good. I don't think it's awful either. I think they play up to their potential. I think they actually win. Yeah, I saw she said in the live chat. It's joy, take whatever you wanna call it. I think the Pittsburgh Steelers win this one in shoot out. I'm gonna go with. Thirty eight thirty four Pittsburgh. I think there's some field goals kicked. I think that a lot of scoring said there. You have it thirty eight thirty four. I have some people asked on the live Chad for some predictions. Isaac said, thirty seventeen Atlanta. Thomas had forty eight thirty. One Steelers. He said Atlanta's defense is worse than the Steelers hands down. Anthony says, thirty eight thirty, five Steelers. I still can't pick against them. Abedi won't gamble. Won't pick against them, but many won't gamble on them. Favored in this game. They're giving points? Yes, they the early spread we ran us on Monday Monday morning. Early spread was the Steelers were were giving four points. I take over absolutely over. Let's you over under. I would think that the over is is high fifties. I would think. I'll tell you this last week, this game angles, falcons. They had forty to fifty. Two point scored in the first half. About that? It's nuts. I mean, I watched the Atlanta Cincinnati game. The first half was nuts. Just. Oh, I was even. Starting to listen to the words. Listen to the words. Listen to you, Jeff. Thirteen joyous now. Absolutely. He doesn't listen to me. Thanks. Thanks. Don't worry about that. So Lance, do you think the suicide gonna lose? That's fine. The over under is fifty seven and a half holy smokes. I'll take the over. Yeah, I would too. Absolutely. Spread is now plus three Atlanta, holy jeeze the the betting action right now is sixty two percent in Pittsburgh betting for the Steelers giving three points at home. What is Vegas know that I did. That's. No. I mean, they're happy like you are. They're happy to take Pittsburgh Steeler fibs money. What they're happy about. But, but I will say this to your prediction to all those people predicting the Stephen shootout in shootout games, you only need to stop or maybe two stops at most. It's almost one of those games where if you force to punts you're probably gonna win. So although it's going to be difficult, it is simple. You're not asking them to tell this office the point where you're trying to keep going to under twenty points. You're probably just asking them to stop them twice. Hold them to a field goal one or two possessions in the red zone. Once they moved the ball up and down a field. So it's really about situational football and about playing good defense in some spots. Not playing consistent, good defense because neither one of these teams can do. Both teams are bad. There's a bunch of candy bars in the secondary. This twits skittles there's kick cats, paydays sugar babies choosy me's raise it. Cougars. There's a budget kiddie in both secondaries to be had. It's just force apart once or twice force field. Go here there. Maybe you win the football game. It's also the turnovers and don't turn the football over the team in sheet outs. Like you said, it's forcing a few puns. And if you win a turnover battle, you're probably gonna win the game. So Pittsburgh believe it or not. I wanna say, what were they even didn't they finish even on Sunday night with fumble recovery and Ben through pick late in the game. I don't know. They were minus one because Vance with one. On the season turnover giveaway takeaway ratio, so okay, but it's good. He would get. We have some questions here. These one. Do you think that this is Chris? Do you think James Connors capable balancing the offense? If they give him the touches. No, they're not gonna give them the touches because he's not good enough to make the quarterback thing that he should take it ball out of his hands to give it to him. I mean, I think people gotta realize great players have to be compelled to not call their own number. That's why they're great players. They think they can get it done. Great players have to be convinced typically by other great players that it's in their best interest to give it to another great player. That's that's part of the DNA to make players. Great. I said it last week on the show. James Connor is a solid back but have been rothlisburger steps to the line or scrimmage says, when I rather throw it to a b. or juju or make this decision or give it to James, Connor, he won't Chuck it any probably should until they lose. Okay, you're answering these. I'm just asking the questions. Here's the next question. Where in the world is Mike Tomlin's defensive expertise. Think it's in the same place that camp set news. We're already Burns's with defined to. These were Cam. Hayward is at some point scheme is fine, but you if your your coach you've coached scheme is great. What do you need for schemes to work players to execute the scheme? Exactly. And what type of players do you need to execute the scheme? Coach, -able intelligent players that are what. Athletic. Good at sports look, look, I don't. I don't care. He could be a mad scientist. I mean, we saw what happened to Bill Bella checks defense in the Super Bowl would've backup quarterback. They gave up nearly seven hundred yards and gave a forty five points to knit falls who would ever thought. That the genius, the defensive guru, that Astor minded has all the answers. They get shredded so you can have all this teams in the world. You gotta have ball players got have intelligent athletic, very good, ballplayers. Execute the scheme. They don't have it. Okay. Will Ryan Switzer get as many targets is last week in, will we see Jalen Samuels ever be used more Jalen San was will never be used riots, which will continue to get a nice though share of tar kids in my opinion until the second round pick until they trust him more. I, I think they like Switzer. I like Switzer. I think he brings him Jews to the lineup. I just don't ever want to see him in the backfield getting a hand off. Yeah, no, I agree. Is this per bowl window closing fast for this team, and what are our expectations moving forward once assuming on bell leaves and if Ben retire. So let's break this down. Learn time, yes or no is Super Bowl window closing fast. Windows already closed. They give, what are our expectations wants bell and Ben potentially depart, we're going to go through a series of some rebuild years. Okay. So you're what I think about that. I think like the nineteen early nineteen ninety s still competitive had bad years. But not like, hey, they made it as equal than in the mid ninety. So it's it's, it's potential, but it's not a guarantee or what you felt was a guarantee but early in his career. Okay. Next question. Could Jim Harbaugh be a good replacement for Tomlin? He's not Isaac as Thomas hater. Just wondering, Jim can't win it. Michigan. He needs to do that. I beat Ohio State. Beat Notre Dame. Okay. Let's hear Brandon. He just got into. He just got in. He just got into Chad. He wants to know what your thoughts are on bell reporting bags of this during the week of in by. Here's a question because we talked about this in the show. Let's say he shows of during the bye and let's say that he is suited up. They're not using the roster exemption for a week. Seven. How many touches do you give lady on bell? The first time he's back on the field. Thirty a run on that weight off. If the game playing Cleveland, I guess I could work out all all that rust and all that weight off. I have puking up on at east cake. After the gave you wanna sit out seven weeks, we'll put about seven weeks touches on that tire. Tire get all that tread off. Yeah, man, I'm dogging him out a run him thirty thirty five times. He's the tunnel work. No blow for you in that game buddy k.. Gauge. Next question is will do. I'll turn this question over under for you, you know, over and works. So they've won was pretty how many big plays are is a Steeler secondary's. We're talking through the air giving up on Sunday. Typically, a big player splash play is twenty yards or more will say, this person said the line at four retaking over they taking under over how big, how many do you five or six either you're going to like eight or nine like that's nuts, man. NFL. This is still an NFL thief. Five or six and not necessarily the ball travel in the air. A couple of the five will be run after the catch is to get you twenty where it's seven yard pass for five minutes tackles, and it turns into a twenty yard game probably on a third eighteen and they pick it up. Okay. Probably. Okay. Why don't you think the Steelers Roosevelt next more. Because anytime he's in the game, it says they're going to run the ball. Is predictable and you take a pass threat off the field. So Bros. Roosevelt Knicks potty better. I just put it like this, put it this way listless. Would you rather have an additional tied in or an additional wide receiver on the field. Depends on the wooden. I would probably would have probably have probably want someone who could catch the ball who provides pass catching threat as opposed to Rosie nix. Although I love Rosie nix. He brings it every week. Yeah, absolutely. He can catch the ball. He caught it on the Monday night game. I think had a little was wide open little swing. Passer. Thomas reminds us that he, he predicted this year's beat, the buccaneers and we to three, I predicted they would win as well. He said they'll play strong against the falcons in the because to five hundred, even though the tide kind of messes up the five hundred. So they haven't it. Lance, give w TSA this week or or now. Kind of like this last segment to replace WT f I liked the because I've been getting some requests for some more fan involvement is show, and I kinda liked this last segment instead of the w. t. t.f the w. t. f. is just those defensive stats that you need those her chips seem all. Back to sixty eight fifty year old. Digging back fifty years, your thesis, trash, absolute trash is not good, but I'll tell you what Steeler fans they're still in in in in golf when you're playing around of golf in, let's say you're the first four holes. You're basically playing crap saying that I grew up hearing with my dad and his buddies. All the time was there's a lot of paper left in their referring to. The scorecard is a lot of holes left for holes in you got fourteen left to turn it around saying can be said about the Pittsburgh Steelers right now they're past the quarter Mark of the season. They did not finish it where they anyone thought they would, but there's a lot of paper left. And so I want you all to stick with this even if they lose this week, stick with the show, stick with behind the curtain. Dot com because we're not gonna stop. We're gonna keep producing content in my opinion. 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Standard is the Standard: Can the Steelers 'stack win's vs. the Ravens in Week 5?

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Standard is the Standard: Can the Steelers 'stack win's vs. the Ravens in Week 5?

"Want to know more about what your favorite Ninjas have on their minds check out the American Ninja Warrior podcasts. It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for any Ninja Warrior Fan. It's for steeler fans going on this is Jeff Hartmann editor of behind the curtain dot com with me as always is the dancing folder night Lance Williams yes. How's it going Lindsey feel. It looks like you're energized. You're ready to go. You're excited for the show yeah. I had to go old school tonight. You see the green cap. You know I asked Jeff before we started. How many of you guys have seen a green steeler cap. I got this cat back in the nineties. In I'M GONNA IS GONNA have to get ninety style all this Sunday for the steelers to get that wind is GonNa have to go back to the nineties style but we'll break that down but so yeah man you know Nice Day out here green cap you know what it is Jeff. Go there you go green cap the steelers of are coming off their first win of the season Felicia a big shout out to her. She is in the live chat. She was at the game on Monday night. The steelers won twenty seven three couldn't ask for much better in terms terms of score will we talked a AD nauseam about that in our steelers postgame show if he went lance in my opinion of the game and specific players here's the played well and he does it disappointed. Go back and check that show out but we'll be one tonight. Let's say some of them. Oh Yeah I wanted to ask Felicia she she could comment in the live Chadha. Where where does she get some Gras at. Does she get a permanant pepys. Does she get some local delight some food. you know some local. Pittsburgh cuisine. Let us know Felicia all right. We'll take it out and and crazy. Chris brings up right off the bat. Where's the dollar Sir Gesture. Oh Man I gotta be honest. I got some emails about that with Hashtag Poor Jeff in it past egg something for Mason Hashtag it will the poor jeff was trending. I think for a while but okay we'll learn did you to start the show. Today is before we get talking about the Ravens. We realized that we're a quarter of the way into the season and the steelers Ravi sitting at one and three no one expected the steelers to be in this position yet here we we are and slants decided that instead of going back in and you know giving specific raids to specific players we wanted to just be a little bit more of a general grading of Offense Defense Special Teams and coaching. We're going to go in that order in so when we're talking about this in the live chat I'd love to see what you all would grave the steelers in that specific category so feel free to explain yourself or you just want to throw great out there. That's fine but we're going to give our grades and it's going to be an eighth through scale just like you wouldn't school Let's turn over the offense lance. Go ahead. Give us your grade in acute a key thoughts on the steelers offense at the court prior to their victory against the Cincinnati bungles. I would have given the steelers F on on offense because prior to the bungles game. They were averaging sixteen point three points per game and in the current. NFL with the way passing is the way it is is the way you can't hit receivers. You can't hit quarterbacks the way they've legislated out some of the physicality in the game. There's no way in the world you should average sixteen eighteen point three points per game even with a second year player you add in the twenty seven to three win that up their points as per game to nineteen but they're still giving up twenty eight point three points per game if I have that right if actually they're giving up twenty two points per game so you know if you're only averaging nineteen points per game. We've seen with this offense has been struggles to get first downs. It struggles in the red zone. Its struggles on third down so I say all of that to say that I would give him a nice fat. De Bats yeah to me. I'm torn because you know me. I'm a teacher and so I'm big about pluses and minuses here and so I'm I'm looking at I was thinking about a d plus or a C. minus. I'm leaning towards the C minus after the twenty seven to three win based on the fact clear me out quit shaking her head based on the fact that I liked randy feet or did in the game in terms of a game plan okay. Lance you disagree and you're making the D. on the screen. I see all that stuff but for me. I've at least intrigued enough to say. Let's give him a C minus baby a D plus. It's the same thing yet. It's just a little different. that's my grade. I think there's hope for this unit will put it that way. I don't know Jeff. I know my mom and my parents. I know that if I came home with the D. plus or a C. MIDAS that the ramifications in the differences between between what would have happened to me would have been distinctly different assigned. Mine is still passing. d-plus is not passing passing okay all right in that regard what you mean to d plus there. You think they could have gotten to wins. It'd be a CECE. My is so you gotta go d-plus okay so we both give him DS. I say deep laws. Lances is a regular straight up the let's go to the other side of the football. Defense defense is GonNa be an intriguing you sent a statistic out to Dave Scofield via text that I thought was really eye opening and that was about their red gem stuff the of that stat in front of you. I think I know I don't but I know roughly what it was. I think that they were ranked. Fourth National Football League in red zone defense however they are giving up at the time before I sent the text they were given up twenty eight points a game but were fourth the Red Zone. What that tells you is that teams didn't even have to get to the red. SOx score or the steelers they were just lighting with bid plays days so defensively migrate is going to stay with the letter that you start with when you spell d. but I am. GonNa I put a plus or a minus on it and I'm going to put a minus on it I I think the steelers are very very average defense right now. literate with a lot of communication issues not really good on the line of scrimmage. getting beat up in the run game. They give a bit plays in the passing game the the one thing that this defense does very well and they don't get people off the field. Let me add that one thing that this defense does very well. They get after the quarterback fourth national football ball league and sacks. I believe with fourteen but I'm going to give them a D. minus. This is not steeler football not steeler physical dominant football football that we're used to seeing in the black and gold so D. minus for me. Okay I probably going to hear from you on this great too but there's two do things you mentioned. One of them that I feel are saving raises for this defense the first. He said he said they're fourth currently in the National Football League. Yes fourteen fourteen fourteen after four games. It's a pretty good clip and then I'm going to help me forgetting turnovers. I believe they're tied for second second in the league internal poster plus four plus four okay. I'm looking at the ratio because that includes the offense. I'm just talking about takeaways again. They have nine takeaways always on the season. I think the Toronto behind New England with ten so to me. That's that's an that's a huge upgrade and I think that they've gotten better with guys like Mak- Fitzpatrick in the back head. Did you notice. Have you watched the film of last week. Did did you see I think it just came out today. I think it just came out today. I have not not been able to take a look at it. In fact I think the Patriots Ironically enough I think they have either nine or ten interceptions some like Lazar number of interceptions which is just ridiculous that you have maybe ten interceptions after four games. Some of that is how good they are and who'd played including the steelers right. I'M GONNA go with C. Minus here because the with the sack totals with turnovers the offense has not been helping them out at all especially in the first three games of the season. You saw what could happen if and the steelers offense actually actually has some time consuming dries if the offense actually gives them a chance to rest from time to time they were they were poised to strike as Myron cope used to say interest for all four quarters. It was for all four quarters. They were all out hunting the the entire game so I think there's hope for this unit is well. I have more hope Lance. You may disagree this. I have more hope in the defense in the next quarter than offense. Do you agree or disagree with that. I agree defense has more talent well. They should get wants to Earth Rounder Tim first rounders on a defense a right. That's exactly right and that was before. They got Minka. No I think it was after they got it went to tin and Louis Louis Lulus first rounder to which acts to its second round or correct to who was second. Mark Barron was the first round pick. Wa was the first round. Pick chocolate doesn't count Hilton was undrafted. Sutton wasn't a first sean pick. Vinci was probably late round pick or was he drafted. He was six round picks out of Florida state. Nelson was not at first round picks. There's just a couple of guys. The first round pick Terrell Edmonds of the first Bush was the first round pick but debris was the first round pick. TJ while was the first round pick him hayward was the I pay. My Gosh smells like ooh. GonNa pop song sounds like a lady on Bell Rap He but Naked Rob Day yeah except it's not auto tunes anyways none not to get off on a horrible wrapped engine so I think the defense I'm going to give them a C. minus because it's one of those situations where I think there's a lot of hope there the turnovers this axe wchs out say see mine is I know you're gonNA disagree because the result hasn't always been good if they can make of his Patrick is going to help with us. They can eliminate those big place then. I think they could be a pretty good defense. Yeah I mean I'm disagreeing because some of the numbers are scary. I mean quarterback rating yards per carrie points per game and now it's up to twenty two but before the Bengals game ever given up twenty eight points a game. I mean that is scary. I mean we are in the month of October. We're in that is absolutely Halloween s right but three good teams though let's not forget that I'm not I'm not giving him an excuses giving them a crutch to Ed to lean on but at the same time. Let's not forget the fact that up until week four. There's three teams were combined eight and one I mean you had three pretty good offense is is there so let's see where things go this you as always start slow. They're always a poor September team. The calendar has since flipped to October. We'll see how they do. Let's go to special teams now. Who Cares I care. I Care Chris. Boswell is a part of special teams. We Know Oh had yes you are. You're absolutely correct yeah. You can't add that. I've normally I would say. Let's do special teams but when you have. Chris Boswell coming off such a dreadful season in two thousand eighteen if you have to talk about it. He hasn't missed a kick. He's the best player on the team. Currently I mean he's he's. He's he's the best finish. He's the best guy on the team. He's perfect. This year is perfect so special teams get to a for the fact that he has not missed a kick extra point nothing. Chrissy Boswell Mr Perfect like Paul Orndorff so big up to Chris Boswell special teams. Get that egg raid. I'm going to go a minus. Jordan Berry has surprisingly been okay. He hasn't been in his bad as he normally is. I can't I can't stand that guy but he's been better. This year is is average yards. Per Punt is better. He's pinning teams inside the twenty more. I think he only has a handful touchback some four games that's good but the one thing I liked the most is that last season and even in two thousand seventeen. It seemed like every time the steelers had a special teams play especially any tape of a return or heck sometimes even a block situation. They were getting penalized all the time. It wasn't never return until you saw laundry thrown of his up there. You go there you go so I honestly think that for me. I'm going to go a minus. The penalties are still a concern the my question lands is if if Chris Boswell right now setting up for a forty nine the yard game winning field goal to tie it to win it if he misses it they lose. How confident are you that he's GonNa make that kick. I think he's good make it and I apologize to Joe. Coleman and you are absolutely right. Curt Henning was Mr Perfect Mix Joel who who was Paul orndorff nickname nickname. I saw Paul Orndorff had a nickname. He used to kiss his biceps. He used to power driver move. He had the well-qualified hair he was. It's like I think it was a linebacker from Florida or something like that Paul orndorff. Somebody tells me in a live chat who's Paul Orndorff. Let me drop my specialty. I'm great to a minus eight minus B. Plus because Ryan Switzer. The electric football man gives them nothing the return gay Mr Catch it Stan right where I catch it he gives them nothing in the return game so I'm going to downgrade them slightly to a minus because because he's just inept so as much as you don't like Berry. I don't like Switzer. Soak the Barry Switzer legal offices not getting any money from either one of us well. Here's my question. Can you name any return man. In the National Football League. This baker plays returner check out the American Ninja Warrior Royer podcast for a behind the scenes. Look at all the action of the show and more with your favorite competitors listening subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Deontay Deontay Jackson made a play of the first game of the season for Denver you one play named one for one what I here's what I'm I'm saying is that I feel like the NFL. They are eliminating the return man from the game. It's basically turning into someone that can fair catch the football. Now you would hope the job that will now. Here's what you're starting to see in Monday night's game when there was a potential return kick who was out there deontay. Johnson was out there not Ryan Switzer if they think it's a fair catch situation and switzers out there. That's what they're going to probably do. They did this. San Antonio homes back in the day. They did this Antonio Brown back in the day and that's I'm sorry Mrs Misses Her Fifth Enzo. Those guys were only used in specific situations. I feel like they're at the point now. Where Ryan Switzer in its is laughable that he has a roster oster spot if this is actually his role is the fair catcher on the Pittsburgh steelers fifty three man roster. 'cause the guy doesn't play on offense anymore anymore. So there you go the drop jurors to what what grade in a minus you were. You were breaking up. I see you now so you said I did not hear so basically no one SWITZER's. Basically they're fair. Catch on the Pittsburgh steelers team so you're dropping your grade down to what an a minus yet met. That's great job almost said a curse word you know in thinking about him getting paid being affair catcher almost said the word that starts with a D. Like Gee. That's a great job and like all these guys that that work super hard to get to the national football league. Don't make it for whatever reason I'm sure they look at Ryan which go do that. I could just catch stay I could I could I could having entire podcast on who of the people I call my financial heroes in my in life and it's people that are making Butler of money and aren't doing a damn thing for for it a Bobby Bonilla's on that list now. That's my God long. I I'll tell you a quick cyber. My personal favorite is is a man by the name of Matt Flynn. Okay Nomad Flynn was a backup for Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers got in he can. He had two WHO Games where he threw. I WANNA say over four hundred yards. He became a free town season. He has no hold on give give a free Asian the off season. The Seattle seahawks paid ate him a boatload of money. They draft Russell Wilson Russell Wilson wins the job Madison's a backup then they cut him. He gets paid still oh he gets a Butler load of money from Oakland. They draft Derek Carr. Derek Carr wins job. He's still making a boatload of money holding a clipboard on the sideline. That's the job Bob. That's why he's my hero because he's not gonNA have. CD's and be able to live his life with all this money yeah. He was getting like three checks at once. I remember this I I'm GonNa. Tell you with another guy. Another another guy like that was Kevin Cobb. Kevin COBB LIT UP A couple of games free agent contract. I used to argue my brother other every day. Kevin cobbs a franchise quarterback. Why based on two starts yeah that was terrible? It just is Shay you how desperate. NFL teams are for quarterbacks. A here's a to ninety nine the tips from Joko Coleman he says donating because of the eighties wrestling references since I'm giving I'm GonNa give jaw another reference. I went to Wrestlemainia to wonder early wrestlemanias that was at the sports arena. I went to that Wrestlemainia wrestlemainia which was that who was the headliner in that one that wasn't hulk vs Andre. The giant wasn't no. I think Mr T. might have been there or something. I can't remember I can't clever pay remember but I went to see it not believe it was at the L. A. Sports Arena wrestlemainia too but I know I went to see a wrestlemainia. I used to go to wrestling cards back then. I saw stark aid in the south. Who is your wrestler back in the day who come on man you gotta ask. Rick Flair core man as you were you were. WCW Guy I was Nwea Guy I can he was with NWEA. I used to watch WMA I used to think the WWF was corny forty because I always hated Hulk Hogan always watch. We have to stop the show now because you just can't do ric flair versus is Harley Race Harley race and Ric flair sixty minutes now a second second tier wrestling for me. I was a wwf guy was a hokey okay. I was a little Hulkamania right around my house taking my vitamins lifting weights. Oh Man I I I can picture that command. You tell me you didn't add a Red Leotard do in the yellow tights but I did have my so habit. Actually is is probably worth the money as little weights little hang rivers had a headband and the wrist bands and stuff is Iraq that around the house all the time. Oh Oh that she give somebody definitely donate in the super chat so we'll pull that out in the next show oh or one of these shows this week I that I think it's back in my hometown. MOMS send it over something but Jeffey Hogan Yeah I had my wall given I was the biggest Hulkah- Maniac ever let me tell you another than even get interviewed by meaner Glenda's invest okay. Let's knock it off on a wrestling tangent here. let's get a coach. Is We want to grade one more thing in the coaches. go ahead. Lance your grade for the coaches because they we have one win. I'm going to elevate the great but it's a d. MINUS this team team in particularly on the defensive outside of football. This team has looked woefully prepared confused communication issues coverage busts so on and so forth. I'm giving the offense offense a little bit of slack because they lost a franchise player to second best quarterback in the organization's history embiid Rothlisberger but the defense defense has been. I don't know it's offense. Almost it's almost no D. in it. it's offense largely so I'm GonNa give them a D. minus Tomlin again lose another challenge although I thought he was going to actually win that one that Pi call was really bad but you know Tomlin is. These slept slept rock of challenges. He never gets anything right hasn't won one since two thousand. Seventeen D- my jeans needs Gee. That's what like eleven loss challenges in a row. It's a lot I don't know the number but wasn't Terro Austin's supposed to be the guy that was who's GonNa fix it. No one's GonNa fix that man. Okay I go ahead and give migrate of a D. Plus in plus only there because I thought that at released against the Bengals who aren't good football team they had a good plan and so in that regard navy like I said with the other two parts. Maybe there's a little a bit of hope that they'll finally start to coach these players so ultimately I think lance it comes down to the fact that we're giving the steelers solid salad ds or D. minuses the first quarter of all right overall grade. It D- For dilly dilly or didn't do diddly or her or any other disease but but yes big up to greg w on the live chat Bob Backlit was my man the chicken wing I love I love Bob op back when the shots the cross face chicken wing. Yes if we go four ninety nine and tip jar from crazy cruces's. Mason Rudolph second career start has a highest completion percentage energy since one thousand nine hundred seventy. NFL AFL merger with that and having been as a mentor. How good can he be. Well if you if the requirement is to flip a coin past maybe thirty six inches then we'll see what they asked him to do. I mean if he can't do do that. The shot play great throw but he can't execute the game plan that they had him. Do against the bengals. Did he's not a professional quarterback. The ball didn't travel a ball travel. What fifty yards we've met like a hundred yards total? Execute the game plan. That's that's the thing that was okay. I guess it was it. You're absolutely right. Kenny executed game played. Yes because he did you might not have liked the game plan but I mean it is another thing Brian Baldinger from NFL network he does all these breakdowns on twitter and he broke down Mason Rudolph and he gave him phenomenal Allegri said look. If you had to see the the Bengals we're gonNA drop into that. Shell and it's going to lead the underneath wide open. He was hidden James Conor tent hidden James Ales for seven. They're good. They're breaking off chunks. It's like an extension of running game so let me ask you right now right now. Who would you feel more comfortable starting just in his hypothetical world Gartner Gartner harder minzhu Menchu Mitch Sar Gardner Minzhu or Mason Rudolph. WHO's better player? I haven't even seen she threw a pass completely on the thing. I haven't even seen highlights. I don't know WII. Look Up Jacksonville Jaguars highlights yeah I just WanNa see more but I don't know how good he can be. I mean I WANNA see him. Execute different types of game plans. I WanNa see him actually push it down the field. Well throw aggressively into tight windows. I get mad. I get that I agree with you a hundred percent but here's the thing we've seen him. Show the ability to make the throws. Okay preseason is preseason but you still have to make the throws and he made he he made those throws in the preseason even week to coming in for Ben Rothlisberger. He made some throws down the field so it is possible that he can do that. I just few he's a guy that runs the system that they put in place instead of the play what they had in place past week. Was We need you to just check it down. We need you to just take what the defense gives you and in that regard job well done. Mason Rudolph you can't you can't fault. The Guy can't info young player for executing a game plan jeff as a fitness guy man. You GotTa look a Gardener Mentions Dad. He's jacked. He is absolutely that guy has jacked. You appreciate his dad. His Dad banks is throwing up some weight. I mean the Guy is absolutely jack but he's in much better shaped his son and he looks like he could give you about ten snaps on the D. Line. Hey I'm dispenser hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast it says in the script terrific riff on what that means and basically what is it's all spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to it college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP. Can you hear me Lance. I got you now all right. We're good. I am golden all right here. We Are we're back. We're back okay. I think we're back good all right so we have a couple of people that want to catch up on sorry for that little blip on the radar snowman two dollars in the tip jar. He says Jeff so see I get this show up here. Maybe maybe not computer is real while he's eating two dollars to the cause. I guess it's a 'cause it. Lands put out there regards to trying to get me that Mason Jason Rudolph Jersey so here we go. I'm trying to catch up here. Gentlemen and Ladies Gentlemen so be patient all right very good. Let's let's talk about this upcoming game okay. The steelers and Ravens are about to go head to head and what's really crazy when I was doing the AFC north recap for this week doc was the fact that if the steelers win on Sunday in Heinz Field and IF THE CLEVELAND Browns lose to the San Francisco Forty niners. I believe that game is in the bay area correct me if I'm wrong lands and then the steelers would be in first place in the AFC north because because they would all be two and three in this field you have to know AFC north divisional record whereas I want to get your thoughts on this upcoming game just in general nothing really specific just yet but just general what are your thoughts on this game. You know I think sometimes I think the football like boxing or sometimes you know different you analogies are different metaphors from different sports. Come into my mind when I think about AL football and in this game I kinda think of boxing you know when they say the popular adage. Dow's makes fights and this is an interesting stylistic match shop because you know what the Ravens WanNa do and it attacks some of the glaring weaknesses of this defense that we've seen thus far far one of those. Is You know how they respond to play action. Passes covering tight ends and their run defense you now. This is going to be a very physical game because the ravens are going to pound you on the ground. They've got to get it done on the ground so I think from from certain perspective this is going to be you know one of their most difficult challenges on a short week plan against a really physical football team. I'm not disagreeing with you. There are a lot of potential matchup nightmares exists between the steelers and Ravens especially from the Ravens offense with the steelers defense. Lamar Jackson is a nightmare no matter who's playing. Have you watched that Kansas City achieve scheme the waning waning minutes of that game he had gone to his right. It looked like a video game the moves that he made discover touchdown. I mean you keep on waiting for that. One time where he's just GONNA get ear. Hold these spin the wrong way. There's going to be a defender burned down it. Just it hasn't happened in a maybe you won't happen. I don't know Michael Vick didn't get jacked up that many times in his career so I think the Lamar Jackson is a quarterback that just like all the other ones you talk about the Michael Vick of of the world. What did they always say whenever you had to play Michael Vick you want to count them in you. Don't WanNa let him get out of the pocket. You WanNa make sure that he has to throw the football from the pocket. I think that if the steelers have any hope is that you have to force you have to force Lamar Jackson said turn into a thrower in that's where he struggled the most nets where he's known struggle missed now my question lance. If you're defending eh the ravens in especially we are Jackson. Are you using a spy. You said on the post game show you probably would. Who would you deploy though to be that it's Fi- to keep an eye on him? At all times I mean I think it has to be rookie has to be Devin Bush. I mean athletically Devon despite the only guy that could maybe run with Lamar because the March Axa four three guy but the other thing. He's a big guy too. I mean he's bigger four three guy. He's not a slight guys not huge but he's not a slight guy. He's not like a Russell Wilson. I mean he's a big guy and you know I mean. I hate to sound like I'm using hyperbole but Lamar Jackson is the best athlete the National Football League I mean this guy is is is a freak week. I mean this guy has four three speed. He could probably throw the ball seventy five yards in air strong arm. I mean he's just he's just one of those. Those guys amongst freaks. That's a super freak. I mean he's Rick. James whitted you know you know but you gotTa make them throw. I mean you have to make them throw. I mean the thing about the ravens is they don't have really good receiving weapons from the wide receiver position but they are blessed with three pretty good tight ends and that's something that the steelers struggle with so. I mean the steelers are going to have to and that's why award this green hat and that's why ward is green hat. Green hat is from the nineties and in the nineties we can remember that the steelers play really physical defense in the front seven they they brought the hard hat day lick people and typically when you play the steelers you felt and if the steelers are GonNa win this game on Sunday. Take out to bring hard hat. They gotta bring it this Sunday because the ravens are going to try to pound you with that running game with Ingram with Jackson and they are going to stay committed to it and they are going to do it so the steelers Cata bring your heart hat on Sunday if they want to win this game well. If there's one positive is the game is is at home I would be very concerned. If this game coming off shore we were on the road the NFL Scheduling Committee did it did them a solid by keeping this game at Heinz Field for me. I think this this contest in general and we continue to talk about the ravens offense versus the steelers defense because I think that's the most intriguing part of this game the browns they gave up a little bit on the ground but they really did put pressure on Jackson that made him uncomfortable. He never could really set his feet in. If there's one thing that I say that the steelers are good at it and it's you know this. Lands is is putting pressure on the quarterback. That's been their. Mo The last three seasons under Keith Butler and so if they have a standing chance they've Dave to get to Jackson when he drives back to throw and they had to stop the run. It sounds elementary but that's it right. I mean another. The thing is you know part of this is football complementaries to L. Ultimate complementary game. They've got to get out in front two got a score some points because if they can get out in front front or Ravens you can limit the number of opportunities you're going to see in the running game you want as you said you want. Lamar Jackson to pass the football and and I'm looking at at Zen masters comments no Lamar Jackson is not a killer. He is a developing young quarterback athletically. He's a killer he he can wreck your game by making athletic plays that are just out of this world where you do everything right and he just beat you with his athletic ability. You know he has God given ability like that. I mean you gotTa give the young man you know his props on that. He's not going to assassinate you and kill you in the pocket throw after throw after throw but he has improved and yes. They have not played very good competition but you're still beating. NFL fell teams and he's still a freak. You know what you're going to get with the Ravens. The question is can you stop it. I mean thing you look at the Ravens. and you look get their running game and I was just writing down some notes to myself I mean I think this will probably be be the most multiple running offense. You'RE GONNA see power power. You're GONNA see zone. You're going to see zone read. You'RE GONNA see Bootleg jet action misdirection. I mean they're not just going to line up and try to run it down anger throat. They're going to do some of that but they're going to do. A lot of different things in the run game and one of my main concerns is not necessarily just the physicality of the Ravens running game. It's the communication issues. We've seen this defense have in the first couple of games because you know he's GonNa. Chuck it in guys bellies. He's GonNa pull it out. He's GonNa play action going to put it in a belly run with it. I mean he's reading stuff so you ought to be really organized. In on paid your is going to happen. You're going to have to have your eyes on him and you're going to have to be physical not go for the fakes and all that stuff that they're going to try to prevent. CH- or excuse me to show you in this particular game in my opinion and Mingka Fitzpatrick is an x factor in this game and a lot of ways. He seems to be the organizer in the deep end and I think that his presence presence will be felt but and Ryan brings this up and I was going to mention this as well Vince Williams. was a full participant today in he he can be back in the lineup and if he's back in the lineup. I say you put Mark Barron on the bench least only put him in certain positions and you lead Vince William. Stop the run. Here's the interesting thing with the Ravens. The Ravens play a ton of eleven personnel absolutely so they're gonNA put they're going to put three wide receivers on the fields that are going to try to schematically take Vince Williams off the field by putting out you know multiple receiving threats in eleven personnel with those three wide receiver. Tell DOE run onto tights a lot too because they have they can catch yes. They do an and that's GONNA be. The challenge always advanced challenge with Vance. Is you know can't Vince. It's cover tight ends with the steelers can't bear in cover tied hands. Kim Bush cover tides. I mean that's that's. That's the thing with this game as well as that. All all the targets or majority of the targets Goethe Raven tight ends. That's the challenge as well. I mean they really WanNa hit guys down in the middle of field in between numbers numbers. I mean nasty throw that he likes to make he might he likes to make that seem throw to mark. Andrews and so who would be that guy in the deep in the deep secondary. There is the guy that you want to be. It's going to be making sure yeah. and you know. I'm sure they're going to try to give bearing. I mean they saw tyler I for drop that touchdown pass in the end zone so you know it's going to have to be on his PS and QS in this game because they're gonna go after him with titans absolutely yeah okay. Let's switch to the other side. Let's talk about the steelers offense against the Ravens Stevens. I have felt that the that the Ravens defense ends has been over hyped overrated in the early portion of the season because you saw them just dominate Miami team. I saw them give up. A lot of plays late late. Arizona and I saw Cleveland pretty much moved the ball. Will you talk about boss on the steelers defense secretary. The Ravens were like Captain Captain Captain Bust against the Browns I don't know if they knew how to cover. The tate in that thing gets a rookie seals or something like that just went off on. They just were leaving him untouched in the secondary. I think that this is where this game sadly i. It sounds elementary again. If the the steelers can put up points I think they win. The question is can they put up points because the ravens are still good at stopping the run but in the back end. That's I'm not so sure. Lands what your thoughts on this match up. You know it's interesting because get this is going to be very different than I think what we saw on Monday night. I think you're going to see Mason Rudolph be much more aggressive in the passing game in really tried to get after those corners. you know for the Ravens. The Ravens are given up. It plays I think right now in the running game I think we saw the running game tricked up and gadget it. I think both of us think we outing. Both of us. Don't have much confidence in steelers running game. It's GonNa have to compliment what they WANNA do in the passing game. I think there are opportunities there. Let me ask you Jeff. Does Dante Moncrieff. Get a hat this week because I because I think I think you need to put your your your best white receiving weapons out there and I'm not so sure I feel so comfortable in this game with the rookie and with James Washington as the three wide receivers with Juju Smith Schuster. You know that that doesn't make me scared at all. You know I'd like to who at least mix in you know maybe moncrieff if his fingers are okay I I just don't. I don't know how you how or why you would do it to be honest with you because he was an active two weeks ago he he was active on Monday night but according today's goof because he only played three stamps. I don't remember seeing him on the field. That was the victory formation. They threw out there. All man the cold the Sierra but still you think about it. Look these these three guys or do. They have what he gets. A helmet will depend a lot on Vance McDonald and his his health whether he's able to play it's a numbers game in Davis. Scofield is ridiculously good at predicting the inactive list so he's a guy to ask and if he's in the live chat he he does his prediction article every Saturday before a Sunday game of savvy curious to see if he thinks he'll get a hat at this week but I don't feel so. How are you feeling about the steelers weapons in the passing game. I mean as I said it out loud you know. I I was cringing. What when I said those wide receivers and I didn't even at Switzer I mean Switzer they have three. They have three wider like I is. Do you feel like this wide. Receiver core is good enough to consistently beat eight-man coverage not right now I think I think they're getting there. I think the deontay Johnson is really improving a lot. What if you watch the game again. I really felt that he was. He's doing little things that he's starting to figure out as as a rookie it takes time. He's he's coming back to the football. You know he's learning when to cut off his route. His report with Mason Rudolph is is really developing. What's really ticking me off off. Though is how there's no report seemingly between James Washington in Mason Rudolph two guys that played four years of college football together. Everyone just assumed that they would go out and it would be like just pick up where they left off if you're GONNA win on Sunday I'm going to save right now. James Washington is going to have to makes a place period. Why are they targeting and he got one target a game. Now I know some of the game plan was was more toward you know a bald. He was talking about the short passing game in fact a running backs retargeted seventeen times in that game. I think the wide receivers were targeted less than ten times so it was clearly the the type game plan that focused on the short passing game and really attacking in the short to intermediate levels. Why is he not getting targets but he's getting a ton of snaps well he. He is believe it or not and this is something that puts out there. I'll throw it up on the screen there. He is considered one of their better blocking receiver so that's one of the reasons he's getting a lot of snaps is that he is out there helping to block on those obvious or those running downs but in terms of targets. I don't know why he's not getting targets and I don't know if it's EAS- knots getting separation I don't. I'm not sure I wish I did now you would that sounds like you know like he's out there to block. You know when a when a lady goes out with a guy just because he's a nice guy but he's not really all that attractive. That sounds like he's a good blocker like like the guy that had only the dead. That's it's that simple. Fact has only every everything to do with why he's playing. A lot has nothing to do targets because if he's run blocking they're not gonNA throw the ball anyways obviously but question is why are they not targeting him. That's what I wanted to do. I mean I don't I don't. I don't know I mean any he time other than highs ward. Let me throw that caveat out there other than hines ward whatever you're talking about a wide receiver and one of his best S. attributes is blocking. That's not a good thing I I understand that. I just want to see him. You get a chance because every time we've seen him on the field in the preseason. It's been two straight years now when he's given a chance in terms of combat catches and things of that nature he seems to make the play and so I wanna see I guess I keep on waiting for them to have a game were off his actually unleash a little bit and he can take shots and he can actually throw those debates and the some of the throws they would dial up within a quarterback not saying they're the same quarterback and I'm not saying that he's as good has been or anything of that nature. What I'm saying is that I hope those are the plays that typically go to Washington Washington's not a wide wide receiver screen guy. He's not that's just not hit. deontay Johnson's Guy's GonNa make someone miss get an extra three to four yards juju Smith Schuster the guy that's going to catch that pass stiff arm. Somebody breaks tackle and get maybe three four five six seven four yards. James Wash doesn't fall into that Cara category for in my opinion some. I'm hoping that this game plan opened things up a little bit more that might open up James Washington more in he's the guy that's probably going to have to beat that man coverage period. We know what the Ravens used to do to Mr third and fifth they would put three defenders on Juju. Smith Schuster is going to be blanketed. I'm sure deontay. Johnson's going to get some attention because he's got two touchdowns in the last two games. James Washington is going to be the x factor for me offense he better be because there's not many options back there and and they're they're they're definitely not guys that make you feel making glue sleepover you know. They're going to have to really scheme this up now. Let me ask you this. If advanced McDonald's healthy you like a running to tights with Nick Bennett and Vance McDonald Donald. I think those two could be really really good formation for the steelers down there. I mean I do you can pass protect. the issue in this game also on offense aside football. I think the DC for Baltimore's as Wink Martindale correctness is your love at name. I Love Them. They're like a TV host. The Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah so the nasty other thing that's going to make his game very difficulty is the familiarity of the Ravens have with the steelers and the Ravens give you a lot of different looks and it's going to be a cerebral game for Mason Rudolph as well but on the flip side the steelers are very familiar with wink what they do you know on defense and I still think the ravens like you said or trying to to really try to find themselves defense particularly with Earl Thomas being that guy back. They're not eric. Wetter Eric Wedge does a fantastic player. You know although although it didn't show on Sunday against Tampa Bay when I gave up I think fifty eight points whatever it was a against Tampa Bay but this is a tough spot for the for the young quarterback division opponent. Ravens a physical team runs to football I. It's going to be very interesting. You ask you Jeff. How would would you defend the steelers. I mean when I'm thinking about the steelers. I'm thinking I would play cover two I play cover two I play a lot of to men I. I don't think the wide receivers can get open and I'm GonNa play two safeties deep just in case and I think I can handle your running game was set. I'M NOT GONNA commit another guy in a box. I don't I think you can run it. So most of my coverage looks are GonNa have to high safeties. I'm GonNa just play a too high safety. Shell against you I don't think think you can run it any. I don't think you can beat me deep and get off man. That's what I do. I play a lot of two man against the steelers avenue just a single high safety and drop out extra player down the box because if what I've seen so far with Mason Rudolph that they're not gonNA throw the ball. Downfield anyways and so there you're GONNA try to run it or they're gonNA run. Short screens screens intermediate routes in which case I'm GONNA won an extra defender there to help and prevented from turning turning three or gain into a seven or eight yard gain so you kind of have Robert. You'd have a lurk so you had a safety lurking. You'd have one high safety and the safety is kind of planning to lurk lurk safety either side. A either safety is to lurk in case in which case on the flip side the offense coordinator. This is where you have to draw up this. You know you're going eleven personnel now a three wide receivers you have got to get used to win your one on one match ups because that safety that one high safety is going to pick a side so. Rudolph's GonNa have have to look off. He's going to have to deliver a good pass down the field. That's something rothlisberger is always good at this prime. I'm not so sure about this current quarterback in this current receiving crop but at the same time that's what did this way. You'd have to do speaking of Rothlisberger. What was that quote. The Tomlin said everybody said I did ask is Dale Elliott Decay. His sports who asked was having Been Rama's Burger on the sideline helpful and I think Tomlin's response was in terms of playmaking taking he did nothing a and been already looked like these gangs some weight too yeah. I told my wife watched that he's on that all carb diet now man. He's scarfing down scar gravy fries baby gravy for is from Raymond. He's a big fan of me and my love affair with Ben Roth's Baristas the reason why can't Jeff Love Big Ben like Lanza shaking my head at the dollar tip jar thanks Raymond. He knows it. I am Ben Rothlisberger Fan and he knows Atlanta's is not. That's why he said that so What's what's rains image? That was that image. I was trying to make it look like he was pumping gas but then take concert okay. I didn't know what it looked like a firearm looking pumping gas. I don't know what that what is that Ray I don't know what that is the fully ever tell us where where she went to eat at yes. She said she you got pizza somewhere but that was a long time ago. I can't call probably went to video. She probably went to Minneapolis. I don't know I don't know if that place is still open. Hope mini meals are still open every five dollars Kathy in in the Super Chad she says what do you think of Tomlin's comments. were getting on the sideline. which is what we're just referred to What do you think of Ben being on the sidelines Lance Tom. It was basically saying don't ask me about people that don't play that was kind of his nice is a gruff way of saying that at. Hey Ben is still in check so you might as well pay you for your brain helped. The quarterback helped a young guy out mentally still come to work being a meeting rooms and help this kid. GET THROUGH IT Yeah I. It's got to be its unique situation. You know what I mean because Ben's planning on coming back and you have to wonder I if I Mason Rudolph having been around is okay. I don't know if I want him in the meeting room. I don't know if I want to hear what he has to say. All the time 'cause I would be tempted to look at him and say man what you shut up. It's my show for the next thirteen games now or whatever the Jeff Jeff get little now but I've seen if I Mason Rudolph. I don't know if I want Rothlisberger always always around and he's on the sideline is an in game thing and he's looking at the the tablet with you and they're pointing out things. That's fine. I get that maybe you shoot like I could see yeah. I can see that you know I I guess bank probably help you know like you shoot over to game plan. You shoot over some coverages different blitzes that they show you you know. What are you seeing the in here. What's the tip you know. What are you looking he needs. He has to utilize Benz brain. I'm not saying he shouldn't I'm not saying I don't. I don't know if I would want him around all the taught if he is around all the time but we know they're not going to be around on. Its He's GonNa. He's on the golf course man. He's had that handicapped down so what will want arm or he's GonNa. Try to try to get that a hidden. drop what I heard. Is that the elbow surgery. He'll be able to rehab that pretty quick in terms of being able to swing the golf club. He'll play tennis or something left handed tennis man. Can you imagine social media blowing rolling up if trying to think of a golf course in Pittsburgh quicksilver I think golf courses and I was just trying to think of one that came to my ahead in quicksilver is one. That's one. It's well not oh come on. I mean they're trying gotta think of just a regular course not Oakmont I thought the play quicksilver so it's just a name I remember you know just imagine what I did say that a Mario a imagine if he got spotted on a golf course around week nine nine two seven I mean social media would just explode. I mean Dion Sanders. Just go nuts it would just be awful in the green. TV's been gained sixty pounds in basketball shorts winner Biz. Go put it on a fast I I I'll guarantee I mean what could he do from. We're fitness perspective right now like walk the treadmill. I mean he can't do much impact. I mean acting look like he was a mummy. I it however they found a trainee any am I do. A lot of lower body work. a lot of bike work not actually on a bike a stationary bike aerodyne bike or air assault bike things like that. They can still get his cardiovascular work in I do a lot of lower body strengthening I would actually do some stuff with his healthy th-y arm as well There's actually been studies that show that if I let you break your right arm if you train your left arm still you'll have less read degeneration in in your right arm even able to be used so he could lift a Hoagie. You get it get easier. go-getter interoffice. Burger he'd go to Sam sups in Oakland and lift US up or lift a huggy or a hero aurore. Whatever you guys call it. I think we we call our hoagies Pittsburgh. Lift the home. It's YUP now. Here's a read says maybe Ben will do his radio show again. This was never publicized but he is doing a radio show again. It's just not what 93.7 the fantasy. WD One hundred two point five yeah. I think that's what it is in Pittsburgh and so for me I look at it and say that you know he's just basically calling into the show whenever he has time is not a structured every Tuesday at eleven. AM The ben Rothlisberger show will be on he is he is giving his opinion. It's just not as structured as it was. Wow crash strobe lights going on. I'm just looking at is going on. That's because I have the TV ordered background and so I think the flashing lights from from the TV aboard had been a dangerous been so I'm glad it's not just on the radio. That's the dangerous big. I mean with nothing to do voice in his opinion. Oh my God that view really get bad okay we. We have a few minutes left. We talked about this game. I thought we did a good pretty much. General analysis says of what's coming up for the steelers LANTA. I need to know what your prediction is. I'm not sure with the spread is the steelers were three and a half point underdogs at home. The last I saw I'm not sure the over-under fear in the live chat and you know those numbers that are up to date. Send them through so we can give you our thoughts on that. They should stop it. Releases comment was good Reggie. Yeah no China might be better Lancer. You know okay so much. Let us know what yes he had. What's your prediction for this game. Let me give you my my my keys real quick just running some package defense. You gotta be able to defend tight ends. It's the game where you gotta tackle. Bring your hard hat. You gotTa Bake Lamar Beechwood his arm. We talked about you. GotTa be sounding play action and you gotTa have great communication for all the different things that they do in the run game with all that set the steelers will not win this game. I think the steelers I think the ravens events will win eight seventeen wow. I can't believe predicted that close. What was your score the week of week four the Dangles Game Twenty Seventy four twenty twenty. I'm thinking twenty four twenty. I don't know what I picked. I picked the Bengals but I'm picking yeah okay. I'm picking the Ravens to win. This car is a day times says that the steelers are getting three and a half with a forty four and and a half over under so what was your vinyl prediction and again twenty eight Seventeen Ravens and I'm also predicting that as a team to ravens. We'll run for over one hundred yards. Running backs will average over four and a half yards carry all right. That sounds like Jake That's interesting so okay. I'm GonNa say that this is a game that I think is the perfect setup for the steelers. I am a big proponent of a I. I have a big proponent of emotion in sports and I think that this is the perfect game for the steelers following twenty seven to three winner prime time because there's a lot of times when you have these letdowns and I'm not talking about Mike Tomlin's record against Blah Blah Blah Blah. I'm just talking about the emotional. Let down from a big win and I don't care who's the Owen three now and four bengals. You were in front of a national audience. You put put up a good performance and there's a lot of times as an a tendency to say okay. We can kind of relax. We got our first win but the Ravens are going to cause his teams are really get a laser focus and I think that this offense although they might have to be very scheme heavy I like the way they're trending defensively. I did say that I did say that. I think the bigger fitzpatrick is is the X. Factor. I did say that I think James Washington's. The X factor on offense and I think both of those players play well. I think there that Mason Rudolph the one that steals the show in this game and I think that this issue is defense. Continues Turnover trends that we've seen so far this season that's right. I picking the steelers to win I wanted to have the steelers was getting points but take him on the money line too. I like the steelers to win this game. I'm GonNa go with twenty. Seven twenty seven actually actually check that twenty eight twenty seven steelers when one point game they are two and three and then we'll see what's going on in terms of the I'm actually going to take the the over antique dealers getting the points Twenty eight twenty seven. You heard it here first. Did you see Ryan Kellerman comment. He said I'd secretly worked for. ESPN brother works for ESPN is Max Kellerman off. I take you know there's only like seven Kellerman in the country. I know that guy is related to Max. Keller is probably his cousin or someone wants to know why even has steelers stuff on picking the team every every week Hertzberg. I'm from the north side no hey. I'm just picking who I think is who is going to win. I mean just going to pick them every week. We don't WANNA ear. Both of US picked the steelers. Just pick them to win every week he this is a question they years. Lands picked the steelers to win all zine. Yes you did. I think he picked up the win and week to do you absolutely I think I picked up a couple of weeks with. Let's let's see here. You did not pick ah you're going to beat the ankles yet. You've got one right. I've got to write this year. we both picked him to beat the seahawks. Yes I picked him to lose it. Patriots you pick them against the Patriots. See Dog me out man you pick what he beat the major. That's probably the worst pick of the season as far are they got smashed. Then was her then was hurt and I am determined that van was hurt and it ruined everything at the beginning of the season but he kept throwing throwing it so he's a gunslinger number seven right. That's right so so for me. I'm a superstitious guy. My wife has me today. She goes this mean on Sunday. You have to sit in that chair and you got to wear those clothes and said yes. Yes and yes so what's what's your snack. What are you eating. What's your snack food for Sunday snacks. I'm too busy. I gotta work. I gotTa have the laptop. I'll eat at halftime. I might go and grab something. Protein shakes something like that heavy. I gotta be a point no carbs. I see nihay carbohydrates is the right ones got hydrates hydrates. How about a pickle pickles. That's fine Vlasic Cedar. You go not does but yeah I do. I aw special pickles Jeff Dies and stuff and those nasty he'd be careful that stuff lands telling you telling you care for that stuff all right folks so anyways listened to here's the deal. We have a lot of stuff coming your way tomorrow. I will be on with Brian Davis Jewish preview show Friday night. It'll be land as yeah. 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Steelers Post-Game: Steelers squander opportunity in Mile High, winning streak snapped

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Steelers Post-Game: Steelers squander opportunity in Mile High, winning streak snapped

"The Pittsburgh Steeler fans. Welcome back to another episode of the Steelers postgame show. Little somber today as the Steelers lose to the Denver Broncos twenty four to seventeen I'm Jeff Hartmann editor of behind the seal curtain dot com. With me is always Lancia's by coz, Lance. How's it going? What are your thoughts on the game today? Not very good. I'm doing fantastic, man. You know, it's just a ban loss. All losses are bad losses. But you're not an feeling a little bit optimistic because I am still in the thanks giving glow. I hope all you guys had also thanksgiving and man, Jeff my co-host is the man on the get down with. Oh, Jeff Gasol skills on the grill. Yeah. You know, Jeff, you need to post a picture on the site in have a contest of who can get down better than me on the grill Jeff gas series skills. In fact, I got some serious kills two. I'm just not courageous enough to do a Turkey on thanksgiving. But thinking of Turkey's, oh, it was a Turkey of a game today. And there are a lot of Turkey's on the Steelers offense a side of the football. I've said this before I'll say two million times over their games where losses acceptable because there are times where you're just not the better team. There's times when you watch the game. Whether the team doesn't have it. Whether other team is superior. We've all seen these games the Pittsburgh Steelers through our lifetime. The one thing that infuriates the nose in. This is the way I feel that this game this game would fall in this category. Is that I there's no chance in hell. The Denver Broncos are as. At team as Steelers they did not deserve to win that game. The Pittsburgh Steelers gift wrap that win for them with four turnovers. But the thing is lands, and you and I will talk about this in depth here. The turnovers weren't just those random deep throw picks. They were turnovers that took points off of the board. You talk about the Chris Boswell blocked field goal. That's a potential. Let's assume he makes it that'd be three points tied the game. The grumble play might have been in my opinion the worst turnover of the game and maybe of the season because he was wide open. And even if he just initiates contact I in doesn't received a blow of the safety. He's probably down at the one at the worst. Instead he has the ball in the wrong hand everything just goes wrong fumbles into the end zone, which I still think is the dumbest rule in the National Football League. And it just kind of snowballed from there. Ben Rothlisberger with to pick. None worse than the last. One booths that feel like the week fifteen game at the pensive patriots. When it came to the goal line situation. It just seemed discombobulated it seemed rushed it just was awful Lance at of all turnovers, which do you think was the worst the red zone? Turn over at the end of the game. Because with all of the other turnovers. If you score the touchdown there you still have an opportunity to win the football game, potentially in overtime. And so I think that was the costliest one the other ones came at other points in a game. And you were still in the game that one finished so any turnover that completely closes the game out. And you lose you can't come back from that is the worst Turner. So I think it was a turn over the interception. Oh, yes. Absolutely. If they were all bad 'cause they all took points. The board. James Connors fumble was bad because it's still driving. And that was a first down run. He didn't even didn't even seem as if the ball. All was touched. He got hit in the leg. And he was flipping over. It was one of those games. We'll put it that way. And so the Steelers are now seven three and one big from the number two seed and drop down to the number four seed as the New England Patriots climb back up to number two since they beat the New York Jets today and advanced two eight and three so the Houston Texans. They play on Monday night football against Tennessee titans to the AFC playoff picture could still juggle. But at the same time the Steelers find them find themselves in the four seeded said, this is sketchy territory when you look at this late of games they have coming up next week. Just see the lay of the land next week. The Pittsburgh Steelers host the I always say San Diego, the Los Angeles chargers on Sunday football. Then they go to Oakland. Then the patriots come to town. Then they go to New Orleans in host the Bengals in week seventeen. Okay. Let's go. Let's just do some grades. And we'll talk it through. We'll talk it out as we do it. Okay. That sound good to you. What's our greatest? Are. We going one through five four has always on through four just wanted to make sure I did not fumble and give somebody a four point two five. Could give an a plus if he wanted, but I don't think there's anyone deserve that today. Actually, there's probably one player that might get in a great in the entire game. I. Okay. Well, let's the quarterback has quarterback overly Ben Rothlisberger. Talk about some stats forty one of fifty six four hundred sixty two you think if you if I asked you. Hey, Ben Rothlisberger is gonna throw forty one fifty six for four hundred two yards thinking probably win the game. Now, he averaged eight point three yards one touchdown to interceptions with sacked twice for eight point five rating. I have to give a nod to Chris Boswell who was one for one two yard touchdown pass out hundred villa wave with a one eighteen point eight rating pretty solid quarterback praying for him, Lance Ben Ross burgers grade, one through four what he got. I'm gonna give him a one the turnover was deadly at the end of the game. That indicating the miscommunication with AB on the route stopping another drive. I'm put him giving him a one because the fantastic throw out of the end zone. That was probably the throw the year. Affect the other throw the year. NFL was throw Josh outling made today against Jacksonville that was a fantastic play. But you got you you've got to take care of the football. You can't turn the football over in that in that situation. And you just can't turn the football over. I mean, you know, you know, that you're better than this team. You have to think that if you can secure the football you'll probably win, and we drives where you just need to get points. And you just gotta take care of the football particularly on the road that red zone turnovers. Terrible. I thought there was some ball location issues. I thought James washes should come down with the ball. But if he throws a better ball there. I think it's an easier. Catch. I'm gonna give them a one. I in fact, I thought the game plan was a little curious. I think we both thought or Wednesday that they run the football more potatoes short passing game sort just going to give it a one. It's hard. I didn't think Ben had a pretty decent game. The turnover was bad. Both turnovers are bad to be honest. And then you have the situation with the overthrow he missed juju on in the first half would have been a touchdown. I don't I'm not going to say that the James Washington throws bad. I feel good Jane's Washington doesn't jump and just rotates his body to catch the ball. He walks into the end zone. I'm not putting that on Ben. I'm gonna give a I'm gonna give bene- too. Because even though there were some head-scratching throws and plays. There were some plays in. There were some throws. He made put Tova Threadneedle hidden Ryan Switzer over the middle with some bullets early. The path. Like you said juju he hid juju on a couple on that last dry before obviously ended in a turnover. Some really nice throws to beat that cover to show that they're running. So I'm gonna give them a to not a great game. But I don't think it was a one. That's just that's just me. Let me Jeff thank for bringing up throw that he missed on. Juju on double move. I mean, that's another reason why put in a great down that seven points. That's almost as bad as the turnover getting into game. But that seven point you're taking out the board. That's that's in the barrel. You've got to make that throw. You cannot miss that. That's the shot play that they called directly of the have it, you know, that they had it teed up because they ran a specific double move against that guy. And I'm sure there was a tendency that they saw that teed up and you have to make that in golfing terms. A man that that that's a three foot birdie putt for the money for the nine million, right? Yeah. Gotta make that throat, by the way that Tiger Woods. Feel stuff was pretty. I don't know. I watch. I'm glad it was free. And I watched it last few holes for Jeff did you watch eighteen holes of that mess? I did how did you get for free? I had to pay twenty bucks for it should be getting your refund because bleach report put it out free because the strain was bad for majority of the people. So you should be getting nineteen bucks in the mail. Well, then I'll be calling TV then. But let's talk about that another time. Let's let's move on with our grades to the running back position. Ben James Connor finished the day with just thirteen carries. Fifty three yards four point one average along run of eleven yards out say of said it before it again, Lance. I don't mean to step on your toes here when the Steelers failed to commit to the Ron James Connery's ineffective. That's not a that's not a James Connor thing. I I've already seen on Twitter. Some comparisons to the player that we don't wanna talk about anymore. Look the same thing happened. When the other guy was here if they don't commit to the run, they often divine never gets going. They never get that greave and being become predictable. And I wanna say and I'm going to go back and look at the stats. I think that every time the Steelers have given James Connor the ball at least fifteen times, it might be twenty after double-check. They he's rushed Rhonda yards here. He gets thirteen carries that I swear I don't. Understand that the Broncos. I think the twenty seventh ranked run defense coming into this game. And you only run the ball thirteen times in a game where you just lose by seven. You just lose by seven. It wasn't like they were getting their doors blown off like they did against Kansas City where you feel like I have to throw it to get back into it. I didn't get the play calling. I didn't get the I I didn't understand the scheme coming into this game. You mentioned that a little bit earlier if I'm grading James Connor I'm going to give him a one based on the fumble. But I'm not giving them a one based on the lack of production because it's not his fault that his numbers getting called so Lance. What's your grade for James CONNER? See I'm have to call you out. Jeff man, you soft on man. See Jeff assault on. I'm James of one is well 'cause the fumble is deadly that takes points off the board in a close game when you're driving, and I agree with everything you said about not using James Carter, and I agree with your one. But I don't think you should get a one you're just a softy on bid listeners. I'm going to say. Something that was said back in eighties before Jeff was born. I don't think Jeff when you born where you live when Michael Jordan played for North Carolina. I was born in nineteen three. Oh, so you were you probably like one years old. I remember that two years saying that the only person that could stop Michael Jordan Dean Smith, the only person can stop James Connor is Ben Rothlisberger and Randy feet ner. That's the only people that can stop James Connor when you feature James car, you give him the ball. He produces this offense goes through James, Connor. He leads his touches when they are running the football. They are much different and much more complete offense. Now, I agree with you. And I think that ultimately when you see them running the football when you see imposing their will. I thought the past protection was very good today. I can't stay Outside Linebackers that they have against them with a rookie, right tackle and Chuck's core. Four out there who I've not played a very good game. He had a lot of help. And that's that's expected when you're gonna get on Miller. But I just didn't understand when you're interior line is intact. Run it between the tackles it with his crazy. 'cause they ran it successfully a few times, they just abandoned it right away. So am I soft on band? I don't know when he throws the fifty six times, I know that the turnovers were bad. But at the same time he made a lot of good throws James Connors case. He didn't get a lot of touches is very small body work. But in my little soft on I'm sure he's always been my guy. All right. Let me try to. Even more to try to drop the great lower. Now. I don't know of you can tack completely on been because we don't know who made the mistake, but how about the two turnovers excuse me. The two time outs used early in the third quarter leaving the Steelers with one time out late in the game which really altered the play calling and really stripped him of the ability to run the football late in that game. I was bad too. Well, one of van's McDonald awake. He showed up in the huddle and shouldn't have been there. And so that's not necessarily a den. What I would say is did did not having timeouts really hurt the Steelers. If anything I agreed with what Tony Romo said where they should be Milquet McLachlan taking as much as they can off the clock because the Steelers defense would was kind of sievelike down the stretch, and they retired. And I get that. I don't think that the not have timeouts hinder them too much. But if you want just to appease, y'all give them a one point five ZV down. All right. Yes. Yes. I yes. I we can move on now. For big, Dan. And let's go the receiving core. Where I think we both agree juju Smith Schuster has a career day. Sadly, it goes for not thirteen or sections one hundred eighty nine yards. None more electrifying than the ninety seven yard touchdown pass in the early. Portions of the third quarter crazy thing is he did this last year against Detroit, very similar situation. Ninety seven yards. He's not a burner. He's not fast. But when he gets the ball he's tough to bring down. He's a big body guy. He has strong arms in terms of stiff arm. He finishes with an average of fourteen point five one touchdown and seventeen targets thirteen receptions on seventeen targets pretty impressive, Lance. We both give them a four, right? Absolutely. He's USC guy hate to give juju four but juju he's probably gonna four and a half. Juju was out there eating and having abo and other side AB getting all that double coverage. He takes advantage, and he gets a fool core. Seven course meal out of it. And ju ju is eating. That's what he should do so kudos to juju. For fantastic shockingly in a tie for second in terms of yardage for the Steelers receiving core. Ryan Switzer was six catches on eight targets for sixty seven yards and average of eleven point two. Don't look now as Ryan Switzer becoming the team's number thirty wide receiver. If he is. That's a problem you want it to be James Washington because Billy to get vertical. I think James Washington. I think we both agree to mate that catch. But James Washington's ability to get vertical is what you want to potentially alleviate some of the dump coverage to a AB you want another guy that has to be accounted for. So you can keep a deep safety and it helps the run game as well. And it just gives the defense another person that they have to be preoccupied with to clear out you can run clear outs with them over with them and just different concepts. If he's able to stretch the field and make some plays. They're gonna need him to make some plays. I don't think anyone is scared of Ryan Switzer. But it's good that he's producing. What is numbers called? The funny thing is down the stretch in this really bowling. My Chris Harris junior was on Switzer seemed to be following him. Almost it's ad. It just seemed to me that there should have been someone that headed favorable matchup. Juju is winning his. And this takes me to my next guy interior around wanna great his performance. He finished with nine catches on twelve targets sixty seven yards seven point four average the long of fourteen. Is it tough grade land? I'll kick it off to you. What do you think in terms of grades for Antonio Brown? I'm gonna give Avia three I'm giving a three point two five. I think AB is doing what he supposed to do within the context of the offense. If you're double cover, you're going to have limited opportunities. But because you're double cover that has to lead to a secondary option getting a bunch of catches having bit games. And that's what's happening. I think AB played a solid game. I mean, I think he took what was given to him. And what the coverage was provided an eight didn't really didn't force it to him, which is good name able to get other guys. Opening other guys targets in other guys made plays. It's just this game. Offensively is more of missed opportunities than AB not having no marks getting. So I'll give them with three point two five three based on the fact that. It's it's it's very thera- Steeler fans are very spoilt when he didn't get his feet down that fifteen or sixteen yard pass play. I Komi stunned. I was like, man. Yeah. I thought for sure he got that foot down. And he didn't he's not. He's not breaking free his streak of touchdown. I think it ends in five games. I may be wrong. He does not hit paydirt. But again was targeted twelve times juju Smith she strained Tonio Brown combined for twenty nine targets in the game. Throw in Ryan Switzer in thirty seven targets in three of those three players. That's pretty crazy. When you think about that in that fact, guess I could go through some other players. I think one of those great it's good the defense. Wow. Terrell Edmonds leads the team in tackles anytime a safety leisure team in tackles. That's not good in my opinion, thrill Edmonds leads the team nine total tackles eight solo. That's good at team stats here. In terms of Saxe. The Steelers finished with two they gave Hargrave a half and Hayward a half. And Vince Williams had his own quarterback heads five the sealers defenses gave up a lot of rushing yards. They gave up their first one hundred yard rusher today on fourteen carries mind you Philip Lindsay fourteen carries one hundred ten yards seven point nine yards of rip for a touchdown. When about go ahead. On Wednesday show. That's one thing. I mentioned in that Lindsey super explosive boy can run I mean when you can jump cut like he does and still be a topic celebration. I mean, that's rare. And I agree a hundred percent with Tony Romo when you watch him run in his level of explosiveness. You're just wondering what are scouts doing at times because there aren't many guys in the National Football League at that position that can run like that. I mean that that boy can go boy got juice, and you can see as clear as day. If you just watch a few snaps at him. I watched a couple of games last week against San Diego boy can run and they were getting creased, and they were getting leveraged in flanked off tackle Ron's. And he was ripping them. You know, just in terms of looking at the Jeff let's just look at the front. You know, maybe look at the linebackers the secondary. I will give the front maybe a two and a half. I thought they were spotty off tackle runs and they couldn't finish. When they had case keenum in in some situation several times, they just could not finish. I thought they were getting some adequate and some pretty good pressure. They just couldn't close the deal. So I'm going to give them a two and a half. I don't think it was terrible game. But definitely not one of their best. Yeah. It wasn't good. It wasn't. He. Reminding few years ago the stretch stretch zone run is what they gashed him on a few times. It seemed like the Steelers head sure that other the years, but how bad did they miss deaf? Onto it lands, in your opinion is a is he going to be a cure all for this dealers defense or this run defense or any kind of being exposed. I think he will cure. And here's the reason I'm giving a funny reason why it's because if he comes back the rotations of the defensive lineman or back to where they should be in. Daniel mccullers does not have to play Daniel mccullers cannot play the outside zone and mccullers plays at a Pat level that's far too high. If you go back to the Jacksonville game, you look at all twenty two they get gals ripped when day covers into gay. So if two incomes back the rotation is back into it's a better player spoke Tyson allu- or Allahu Allahu Cal grad plays less. Snaps Walton doesn't get on the field is much and Daniel mccullers never plays. So I think with to back it really helps and they better have him back next week because Melvin Gord is even more dynamic in explosive than linzie. Yeah. I did see thunder. Saw Gordon was banged up a little bit in the game today off to double check on that. We'll we'll into that came ad nauseam on the websites. I'm sure will be tackling that in every different aspect. Let's go to some teams detested here. You're looking at this telling stats we always talk about red zone third down. So it's down offensively Steelers. Third down efficiency five for fourteen that's below the bar. Not very good. But Steelers defensively held the Broncos on for three of eleven on third efficiency. So it was Steelers offense. Yikes. That's bad. It's a little it's a it's a take under obviously five hundred. I look for above five hundred to be good. I'm below five hundred to be bads. That's just my definition of that you hold the Denver defended. Defensively holding Denver's off has three for Levin is not that bad either. What are your thoughts on the third down efficiency offensively lands, and what can they do to fix it? Not good enough on third down this Jeff. There was a play believe lately. Game third and six they target AB one on one I believe they throw it seventeen yards down the field to try to pick up a third down. And this was late in the fourth quarter calls like that are head-scratching to me. Why throw the ball seventeen yards to get six when you have one time out late in the game in you know, if you kick it back and give up a score you're gonna lose clock. And if you give up a score the game is going to be over. I think sometimes on third down to play calling just from a logical sensical perspective is off. But but but you got to convert their down more. I mean, you have to because the defense limited giver to three of eleven is outstanding. And I thought the defense had a pretty good handle on what? Denver was trying to do ofensive lycee safe for the fact that no one could cover Emmanuel Sanders. So yes, the offense has to be better on third down and better in the red zone, which I know you're getting ready to bring up. Yes. The reds. It is typically the second statistic that we mentioned when we talk about teams. Mystics seals finished one for two bud defensively they three out of four. That's not good red zone team. Play the sealers offense shockingly they turned it over to many times before they got into the red zone. I want to say there might have only been one possession to the most though the whole gain. The seal is didn't make their way across the fifty. And it's just oh my gosh. From the fifty to the red zone is just all the trouble having lands. What about the defensive side? They didn't have good red zone defense today. What's going on? Yeah. I mean, you just I mean that that past plate of may will Sanders. I don't know if he was he had to be at least a third option thought they were couple of coverage bus down near to particularly on the run play down there where they saw Sensabaugh in what kind of going back and forth on the sidelines. I think the rookie at times does it actually know his assignments Edmonds down near in the red zone. They looked a little discombobulated down there. You know, it's hard to say that they didn't play a good enough game to win. But you have to say that because they didn't win. I gloriously. They couldn't handle Emmanuel Sanders. He did it adequate enough job against the run. I think they held him down on third down. But you just have to play better in the red zone and on offense. You've gotta get more reds on trips. You can't have to red zone trips or you have to have more trips. It's like chopping wood the more trips you get the more chances. You are going to be successful. In those you can't get two trips on the road. But again, I mean, Jeff is bad as some of these stats are, you know, in this game comes down the turnovers. We just can't turn it over on the road like that and expect to get a win. Now. You're absolutely right. And that's when everything that we talk about I mean, people wanna talk about, you know, rushing numbers and rushing attempts and all this stuff when a reality. It comes down to the fact that the Steelers turn the ball over. Way to freaking much in this game to win. And when you think about last week every my goodness. Maybe we maybe. Not might maybe they were fortunate to win that football game last weekend Jacksonville. And you know, the stumbling block so to speak and the games that were not marquee match ups and long stretch were adjuncts Ville had Denver and add Oakland three road games. Three teams that are below five hundred. And you know, what they barely got out of Jackson with a win. Some would say they should have won this game. But they didn't now yet Oakland in two weeks. But in in between those are big games big games against good teams were not counting the the Bengals at this point. But so let's get to some questions here. Pose the question here too. Okay. Yeah. So Lance any other thoughts of whether any questionable decisions he thought happened. Or were there any key turning points in the game other than turnovers? You wanna talk about I'm gonna be surprisingly positive. This is a really good football team. I know they lost the game. But just consider you go on a road. You start your third. Right. Tackle you give up what to Saxon game. You have close to five hundred fifty yards of offense. And the you really handle that pass rush. You really do everything that you wanna do ofensive -ly? It's a it's a loss. But it it's a loss that you walk away from saying. Where football team we just have to button this up. We have to keep this buttoned up. We have to take care of the football. I if we take care of the football, and we're supposed to we're going to win a lot of football game. So although they lost. I'm not why I'm not coming away with this game thinking anything differently about this team other than the fact that they just got a button it up secure the football. And I think they'll be fine. I'll go on and say that there is underneath a change about this football team. That's their dead fed outside linebacker Ola. Dania was brought off the injured reserve this past week. He can now they have twenty one days to make a decision on him. The find the Steelers, but TJ and a banged up which with by which by the way, the injuries that happened in a game yet TJ about the risks. Vance McDonald with a hip and bud depre- with the shoulder all return to the game the two of those three players that I just named Outside Linebackers in Anthony Shaquille is the only other outside linebacker on the roster on the Steelers this week. I'm promoting all day Nate to the roster because they need someone else out there because you forgetting Anthony Shaquille O plays every single special teams. You know, every single special teams. Kick team return, teeny name it. He was on the field a ton today. And that's not any type of let me let me stop is overstating say is day need the solution. No. Is he another body? Yes. And that's what they need. They just need more depth at the position. I've never thought it was good or smart idea to go roll with three. And now they've got some injuries at the position. So I don't know what you think about that. But that's my theory on the team. I think it's an issue. I mean, it's absolutely an issue. I mean, they don't have depth that the position. And I think everybody was holding their breath when they saw watt go out with the wrist injury. And hopefully, it'll be healthy next week because they're going to be able they're going to have to get pressure off Philip rivers next week. That's a guy that you can't let sit in the pocket with the weapons that they have a we'll deal with that. When we break that down next week. And a you said this is a good football team. Hope people realize that and if they win Sunday night, no one will remember this loss. And it's a big win over good chargers team. You'll see you'll see that's all I gotta say. All right. So let's get some questions is it time to bench, James Washington. I'm gonna say no, he's a rookie. He's going through some growing pains in Ben Ross Perot's said this multiple times throughout the season. And that is when he was in college he played on one side of the field and he played one position. And his job was mainly to go deep when a reality in the NFL. You've gotta run every route. You gotta do it on those the field. Andy minutes ago this lot. And that's how they run the Steelers offense Judaism issues to able to do that with these not every rookie juju Smith Schuster. So I think you agree with me here. Right. James washington. Not who we thought he was rookie. But it's not time to make any drastic measures on him. No officer after a look at James Washington on all twenty two. He's getting separation and he's getting open. I would be concerned if that wasn't happening right now, they just don't have confidence in him to do everything that they need him to do thus Switzer's gonna get some of those targets just be patient with the young man he'll continue to develop one thing. I'm not worried about is the Steelers develop developing wide receivers. He'll be a good one. Yeah. I think so too. All right next question is why can't get these Turner's controlling. It says something I told Lance before we got on the air. The Steelers worth minus three and turnover ratio heading into this game. They turn the ball over four times. It means a minus seven I the turnovers on offense or one thing, but lands, what do you think this team has to do to get more turnovers on the defense of end? Is there anything and think other than just luck and happenstance that they're not doing that? They could do better. I think they probably have to play the run better on first down. Because I think if you can do that you can get some teams in some third long situations in force in dictate. Some throws is that way. I think you could put yourself in gore physicians to get turnovers you're Steelers, aren't you know, they gotta get teams into some more third and seven along there's so they can really gate after teams put the pressure on quarterbacks four some errant throws. And or get shocked ships fumbles of that nature. I think if you play veteran, I doubt on against the run in teams aren't in second six or or second in four second five. I think you'll see those opportunities go up. All right. Yeah. Next question. Do we need to see more? Jalen Samuels as like a third down back, and this is tough because I don't think past pros specialty. But he does have good hands. He was utilized that way at NC state last year. What are your thoughts on that? I'm not sure I mean, I just haven't seen enough of him to suggest. Just that. I think the offense isn't an issue. I think it's just about securing the football past pro is consistently good. It's about keeping securing the football. And it's running the football. When this offense commits to featuring James Connor and getting him from twenty to twenty five touches that's when this offense roles. I think that's the identity of which they should pull up. You're throwing the ball almost sixty times in getting seventeen points. We know they turned over the ball multiple times. But throwing the ball sixty times. I don't think that's the recipe for this office. I think this offense needs to run the football in everything needs to go through that. And goes through James Connor in him getting touches. Okay. That to you. That's question. Do you think Chuck's accord for will replace Marcus Gilbert next year? What are your thoughts on the rookie offense attack? I mentioned how he had a lot of help today. But did you notice him at all? To answer the question. No, absolutely not. I mean, I have to look at Marcus Gilbert's contractor to shop probably have a better answer for that on Wednesday. Just see what the debt money charged with if you cut him so on and so forth. But no, I think we Gilbert plays the best right tackles the National Football League. The problem is he does not play it. He's unhealthy. And he's a guy that MRs several in numerous games every single season. But I don't think Chuck's is the replacement. I think if anything that they were to go in that direction. It will be a competition against him and filer I think they would compete for the right tackle position. But I don't think we're at that point yet. Yeah. Okay. Another good question here. I thought from Amen, essentially, asking what are your thoughts on why the Steelers don't get banned under center more than they do. They run a lotta shotgun. And they run out of the shotgun. Formation a lot rants. What are your thoughts on that? Why are they not getting banned under the center? It must be something that he sees. He must he must like looking at the field detached. That's the only thing that I think I mean, it's more of a shotgun league. Now. I'm not sure that that's a really good question. It's hard to know what that answer is. But you don't he only got just say to answer it in extreme generalities is he just be must be more comfortable, not dropping back it taking his eyes off to feel per se, particularly play actu- or just dropping back in general. He must just feel more comfortable, you know, already being able being detached from center reading reading the defense that way. Maybe that she said, I don't know. It's hard to say, what do you do you? I think right now, it's a comfort level with Dan. I think it's also about packages. In other words, if they have been under center, I think the one of the situations is that a lot of people wanting four in this common actually said this they want to I formation. They went Roosevelt Knicks out there. They went James Connor. But you've image yourself in the passing game is everyone's play action. But they want Roseau next. You're limiting yourself when you do that. I think that the Steelers are a primary shotgun offense. They they actually run the ball well out of the shotgun. It just seems like the offense of line actually works better. When they don't have Knicks out there when Knicks isn't in their potentially plugging holes clearing holes. I saw that on a couple of cages tonight when the Steelers ran at the I formation with Knicks on the field. It'll be interesting to see where they go from here. I don't think they're going to see your to see any major changes. But I. I think Rothlisberger and feeder a comfortable in the shotgun. They like spreading the T spreading teams out running out of the shotgun because they've proven successful doing. So that's just my long answer to two very simple complex question. And every quarterbacks different. Let me add to that. Jeff. It might have something to do with the ability to be able to RPO out of shot. Good as well. Because you can't really RPO to center also is probably something to do with the way the James Connor feels more comfortable running out of shotgun as well where he can pick it and hit it in a different way. Then you would if he were under center. So it's probably a combination. Like, you said the packages. Also, I think Conor inventor probably more comfortable outta shotgun. Yeah. I agree. So all right Lanza questions have seen gone dry at this point. What are your final thoughts and the game in the Steelers moving forward all all loss? Are bad losses. But I don't come away thinking that this is a bad football team. I think the Steelers you know, when I look at them. They're on the precipice of being an elite team one of the reasons they're not in the league team is the turnover stuff they give the ball away. And they can't take the ball away. I think daxon issue. I think another issue is they don't have a primary options a third wide receiver. I think that's an issue as well. One of the things that cropped up in this game is Joe Haden. You can Joe Haden still run. Emmanuel Sanders Ryan by him with no issue. And that's a problem. I think this team has rebounded from what we saw earlier in the season. They're coming off a five game winning streak. So I think the team is still pointed in the right direction. They just have to they have to clean some stuff up and they can't leave some plays on the field. But I'm not coming away from this game thinking this isn't a football team. I think they're exactly what I thought they were last week. Probably the second or third best team in the conference with Kansas City being the best. Probably New England a close second with the Steelers followed by San Diego daring that mix of the best teams in the conference. They're just not in the league team. They're they're not the saints. They're not the Rams, but I think if things bounce right for this still is a team that has a good opportunity to go to a Super Bowl. Yeah. And that's the thing is the Steelers the last two weeks, and yeah, people will talk about some calls this way calls that way. But ultimately they've had a lot of bounces go against them as well. Some of these fumbles anything James Connors fumble. When I know Ryan Switzer, someone was covered by Pittsburgh. But ultimately if things are going their way little bit this team, they can go on a tear. They've proven that. And they'll definitely be tested down the road. And I've always said it you just have to get into the dance everyone talks about number one seed in a home field advantage and all that stuff. You just have to get into the dance. Win your division punch one home game ticket. And then from there you see where the chips fall. But I I like the Steelers chances, and I won't know a lot more about this year's coming up even as early as this upcoming Sunday night in week thirteen. So for me, I just want to remind everyone out there. If you're listening on podcast, check us out on YouTube. We can go to YouTube search BTS's Steelers radio. Subscribe like comment. We appreciate all that stuff. Also, if you're watching on you didn't know that we have a lot of podcasts that maybe are on you to check us out on other platforms was art nineteen stitch Google play I tune Spotify. You name it. Search Steelers you'll find the behind the Silkroad dot com platform their lands. I know you wanted to ask people their opinions, especially those on YouTube in our group chat that offseason contents. And I'll give you the chance to do that. Now listeners one of the things me Jeff kicked around off air just just some of the content. We wanna bring to you guys in the off season. And we just want to get your feedback. If you get a chance, you know, reply reply in the comments on the YouTube video reply in the live chat, just a different type of content that you might wanna see in the offseason. So that's pretty much. But the one thing I did want to add to your com-, Jeff when you were mentioning. Your thoughts about this football team in a funny way. I think this sandiego game will say more about them then this loss against Denver. I think as they go out and play a really good football again in handle a really good sad Yego team that'll say more about them. Then this loss in Denver. I agree. And I'm always someone that says that you can eight loss can be beneficial to you. And I think that there were some Steelers that might have been drinking their own Kool aid a little bit. Now. Denver beats this not at a in an all around kind of way, and your this himself evaluation going on right now the seals Raskin themselves as defense make it we need to south the run. The offense is talking about not coughing up the football, a can be a good thing. This this loss as much as it sucks right now. If it propels them to bigger and better things would be totally worth it. So with that said. With thank you for your time lanes. I appreciate that. Also, check out behind the steel curtain dot com for all your Pittsburgh Steelers needs. We update the site over ten articles day all your Steelers knees right there for you in one location. So we create the time lands per sheet. 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