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Shaka Smart & Chris Beard

Courtside with Seth Greenberg

54:35 min | 2 years ago

Shaka Smart & Chris Beard

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And also we had a chance to kind of actually get up close and personal with my man band back actually called his son's first game as an assistant coach at Ohio State. These squared. How is life? Life is great. You kidding me? I'm on with you gave the produce wonderful day. And you know, what Indianapolis the other day Seth was buzzing, man. And you mentioned it. The big blue nation said I was downtown around eleven do my radio show. Show at noon and the big blue nation was everywhere downtown and by the end of the night, they had the true story. Cutoff beer sales in bankers life because there are too many fistfights in the concourse most of which involved the big blue nation because they were getting spanked by the do keys set your thoughts. Williamson and Barrett and Jones, let's not forget Jones. He's not bad either the freshman for dukes EFI. I thought Joe here's the thing. Ever loses. Williamson's easy guys about masquerading, man. He's like a bigger version of charged Charles Barkley, he rebounds, the ball pass you made in transition. Barrett. Was absolutely sick. He does things we haven't seen. He's so unique RJ Barrett. Little demar. The Rosen type game is ability to get to the rim slash, but he knocked down his first three threes. Great cameras more of a spot of guy to me. But he was terrific. But the guy that puts it all together to talking about in my opinion, trade Jones seven says zero turnovers initiated offense, great ball pressure at the point of attack, defended and disruptive and then dukes defense last year. They were Euch they were Duke without the D. The other night against Kentucky. I thought their ability to pressure deny push Kentucky out speed them up make them. Settle get deflections. Get out in transition to meet Kentucky the first ten minutes of the game totally were reacting to the Duke defense. And no one's really talking about. Just how good their defense was. I actually thought it was really good and disruptive and kind of took Kentucky out of anything. They wanted to do. And they were terrific. It's one game. He can't overreact one game. But those are some interesting pieces I can overreact one game. Because I. I did talk about their defense. I did think their defense was incredible. And let's go back to a couple of things. You know, a guy hits his first three threes in that environment. Like that was a big time Kentucky crowd, and it just shows. How polished young guys are right? I mean, there was no phasing. Yeah. There was no phasing Jones. There's no phasing reddish. There's no phasing Williamson. There was no phasing Barrett. This was just like another game. And it was amazing because Seth you. And I we were in the Bahamas Kentucky's a really good team. Really good. Really good. They weren't at team. Here's my thing. The one thing that you talk about, you know, adversity visits too strong of Liz with the week. I thought I thought in that game they were so out of their character. Because one they got they got punched. I dunno stage was the first time they actually got pushed back they looked and said they looked into American. I so like these are really dudes. I don't know if they were. Over hype. But here's the game starts dukes making threes Kentucky instead of pounding that thing to retreive making them guard and making Zion guard. They're settling like, they just three point shooting campus. They they never kind of rebound the ball moved in the Bahamas. Yes. Yes. Out Duke at lot to do with it because dropped and and their length and their ability to pressure the ball. But when things went a little bit south I thought that could Tukhy kids instead of Boeing their necks and fighting back. They all tried to do it on their own. And then there was some things that surprise me. What John did I would've started? All right, Nick, which just nothing to do with this game. It had more to do with. Right. They're going to start a Marquis bold. I gotta match up for him. And he's come so long. I'm going to empower him. That's just me. You don't get he's with everyday practice because I hate to make these. Assumptions that just me just from the days we were in in the Bahamas. I would've played right through retry gone, right? Williamson early. And again, that's again. That's just the one guy. That's different. Anyone else resign waves? Like everyone else we could have at least survived. And then I just thought that they all wanted it. Maybe they wanted to help so bad that the shocks election wasn't good. And the games. We did the Bahamas. Can you remember more than two or three shots that know how many tonight they couldn't they couldn't get a good one? I mean, it was more bad than good for Lyle. And I'm not saying, I guess bad is the wrong way to put I would say more Rushton uncomfortable yet. I mean, and that's what you try to do. Look people think there's no shutouts in basketball. Right. I mean, you don't you. Don't pitch a shut out. You don't play defense like the eighty five bears, and nobody could get a first down guy's gonna score. But the key. What you wanna do is? You wanna make the other team uncomfortable? You wanna make them hesitant? You wanna make an open shot feel weird and Duke did that and you said it before the game, you know, Mike wants to get into contesting it get into the ball pressure to keep the ball on the side, all the old style. Bob Knight's stuff going back really to his days. And army. I mean, that's the stuff that we practiced every freaking at Indiana and Mike was doing that with Duke, and it was refreshing to me to see young guys Seth young guys. Number one understand how to do it. And number two, not only do it. But smell blood in the water and turn it up a notch. I thought that was cool. I thought that was that was coaching that was culture that was these kids being just guys it understanding get basketball. You know? I mean, spun really fun. I think and I do think, but it means you're Pinon like all the international basketball these kids play on the different stages. They play you think about RJ Barrett and success with the Canadian national team think about designing Williamson tore of of where he's played, you know, basically trae Jones being the brother of a guy who's won a national championship at Duke who has even greater ownership. You think that helps guys get it? Yeah. Well, yeah. I do you know, I was reading an article Buzau Williamson and this was a little bit. Like wind guys were trying to run around looking recruiting. Lebron? You know, you go to a game. You can't get in. Let's get there an hour before. Because it's so everything everything these guys do has been big time. Right. I mean, they're not playing in gyms with six people. And but but to me to me with all that hype. It can go the other way too. And we've seen it go the other way with guys we've seen guys become petulant. We've seen guys become uncomfortable. But may look and then Seth Kentucky could add to the coaching element of Kentucky goes on. What is Duke do with it around? Get the ball in the middle. Look shot look down. Look opposite handle his own that's coaching. But that's being home in the moment in big environments into your. Point. I think one thousand percent all of that adds up for those guys to be able to play in whatever environment gets thrown. I gotta believe it's hard. It was hard for me going to Indiana. I practice right. Oh my goodness. That's that's not the easiest thing in the world. So kudos to them. And that was that was the show shows. It really was. And I'll tell you what you want is on those dudes the way they move Zion and RJ at defense, and then they can distribute it drive at move it. Craig Jones was absolutely I'm gonna call HiAce Jones tie trae trade Jones trae young all seas. And you're gonna get fairly. You're gonna have ties. Yeah. His ability at the top thing. Ball fake Shaath? They get it to the middle be patient and the guys that they just the simplicity of what they were doing. Was real was really impressed their impressive. The one thing. The one thing I would say about Zayn Williamson is you're gonna have to you know, he hits his first three, right? And like, I wait a second here. But I think you gotta live with that moving forward. You know, you gotta play him the where you keep them in front if he wants to jump up like he did in the middle lane and find jump up like you did middle lane. But you can't let them get that big body on an angle because potty good on an angle with like when they let him go. Right. They took away. Let him go right right now next game, whoever they're playing army, whatever is going to know, we got a square up on him and just keep in front and so much easier said than done, but may they're fun. Can't we bitch worries is is so premature for document they're going to they're going to be fine. I think the biggest thing is this is a two part thing for Kentucky right now. You've got to be truthful, and the film don't lie. So I mean, you got to be truthful, but then and you've got to be demanding. And you non-negotiables two things that, you know, us not trusting each other. That's not sharing the basketball us being selfish us, not Boston are tail to get ahead of the ball transition not closing out. That's fine. Then you also have to build your team back up. And then I think the biggest challenge for Kentucky. And I really believe this. They got nine like pieces, and you know, what they need three guys to separate themselves. Because you have nine light pieces and things go a little bit south little bits out. You can say, well, you know, he's not playing that. Good wine. I play or he's not you know, why see starting a he missed three in a row. You know, coach is not on him is hard on me when I miss a couple and all of a sudden a team that has likes each other can separate. So I really believe that they've got to have about three core guys separate themselves still play nine, but it's not a democracy. You know, three core guys are gonna play thirty plus minutes a game. Right. The other two guys that's gonna leave ten on each of those positions. And then the other two guys that you might play those guys twenty and twenty but you're not keeping nine happy for a long season less unless you're blowing people out maybe goes to two ships again. Ooh, you play. This. We play there. I guess right now just got headache. When you reports of their demise are greatly exaggerated, greatly exaggerated guy. All coach get the kids, right? You always go back to your own experiences. We went to the final four ninety two first game of the year. We get absolutely. I mean, not killed destroyed in the in the tip off hall of fame. Classic by UCLA with Don McLean, and those guys Tracy Murray came back in and beat them by thirty five in the game to go to the final four. So. Month from now, you forget about it. Let's go there here. Begging other game played in Indianapolis as well. Number one, Kansas Michigan state, and Kansas different Kansas team going on with Kansas basketball when it comes to basketball played on the court. They're kind of an interesting makeup. She got transfers. You've got to lead freshman, you've got a mountain masquerading as a man in a as a bookie what was your take? This is to Kansas in general, forget about Michigan state. What was your first take on Kansas? I really like the freshman guards. I'd love Quinton grime Seth. I mean, look he made buckets and in acted like he was supposed to make buckets I also loss and really good. I mean, look he he did what you need. I mean, he scored it. He rebounded. He assistant. He's long. He looks like a pro. I thought they were really good until I saw Duke had another. No the truth. But I look at Kansas. If if we saw Kansas in the final four, nobody's going to be surprised. But man, I was so I don't know what use apprised by Quinton Grimes. Or did you kind of know this who that kid was? I spent time with Grimes the summer before in Italy and in Houston at a camp, and he's a grown man shirt has toys the week Ariza himself just jumped up that first three just called a fan jumped up. Bam. Ran back go. It was no fist pump. There was no facial change. It was the next play. It was like he was a grizzled veteran. And that's kind of who he is has a maturity about him poise about him for surely toughness about him. He's got a grown man body. There's no doubt about it. I you know, he was I thought he was terrific. I expect them to be good. He was even better than that on that stage loss. It was interesting because he doesn't have the pop athletically. Yes mad. He's a good basketball. Like that. They ran one little big the big ball screen right in the middle. And he came off that ball screen through the high low pass that was a high level pass to as Buki for layup. Like, they're not allowed to do throw that pass his passing blew me away is floor. Game was good. He rebounded it by putting a body on people there. Good team. They've got that. They've got size. They come at speed. I thought dukes players were terrific and played well, and we're well-coached. Kansas ballg of mint. I thought was really good and again Donaldson's a young kid out there with with Grimes, and I agree. I thought they were well coached Bill selfless fifty pounds about that. Apparently had a hernia in good for him. Hey, I think Michigan state's going to be just fine. Just fine. Seth. Yeah. I think it'd be fine. I think aren't Henry's going to have to have a bigger role. We were all hipped up and is was hipped up. What what happened to him in that game? Yeah. You know, he had four points did some things he had a back door to got blocked. He played here. Here's my thing. Look, you know, the speed the first seven seconds at o'clock. They're great. I mean that thing flies up the floor. They're running their sets. They run them hard. They screen hard. They read they space goings Xaver Tillman stretch to floor at their size. You know, look they're gonna win cash swinson cancer five times if they're going to win Nick ward, it's gotta be better than he was. He do I do I need to. He was going to be America's most improved player. He's still my feet were not throw him under the bus after one game. I wasn't gonna go there. Only in a ex to you that was there. I could get a key chocolate out of myself fly on a plane, right? The one thing is can do they have anyone that can just Craik separation. I think enter Aaron Henry can do it. I think that that cash ICs due to some extent. But they're going to be fine. I mean, they're going to guard. They're going to rebound they're gonna play faster early in the clock. They're going to move the ball there unselfish even though they didn't win. I thought they had the toughness to get back in the game to make it interesting. And and how many bad place to mate and their bench, and their togetherness is undeniable like through it all that those kids they are all into each other as just watching their bench of watching their team. There's there's no me in that group at least that that's how I saw except for Nick map playing. Well, hey, those four teams end up in the final four with that. Surprising. Yeah. I I it would surprise. Would you not see eye? Michigan state. I'm not sure I got I got my sleeper pick Kansas state's mcdonagh fourteen. Kansas state. I like you like that dean kid, you'd think he's I like, yeah. I like the wait. I I like I like how tough they are. Returned five starters ask you question. I can really coach. How's it going for Kansas state? And how's it going for noise since they got Bruce gonna ain't good valid point valid point. That's. I tell my kids. This be careful what you wish for. No earth wherever just flat. He's a ball coach. I mean, that's the thing. That's like a lot like crispier not as Ilian five star guys. They play hard they compete. They share it. They develop players the after gone of doom is a great home court like and I love Kansas. Great. I'm going to think about this. Because I know I know I might just again have to go to field. I know you think I'm criminally Dan sometime on the Wildcats at some point. You gotta be right betting against Kansas to win the big twelve don't you? I mean, here's a decade and a half, but of its I win. Why are you the house? I. I. It's like blackjack, right, Ty. You you win. Right. It's a push push big. Boy. That's really stakes. I don't I don't disagree. But until further notice. Yeah. No, I hear you. Big twelve. The coaches at lake make a great point. And that the one thing about Kansas is they've got the best home court the players that play in the home are pretty good and. There's an expectation. Well, but you know, in in the big twelve you don't talk about Oklahoma state anymore. I mean, Oklahoma state final fours pretty good. You know, you just don't really you don't really talk about him anymore. I one of the great you what made me think of that was the great home court. They redid AIBA and all that stuff. But man, you just Kansas state in the job. Bruce, Pearl has done Bruce Weber's Weber excuse me has done you could put up there with any job in the country. Down in terms of what he's fighting against his own state who he is available who's available for him to recruit to you could put him up against anybody in terms of doing a great job in college basketball. I think yeah. And he's got a lot of purple ties guys. Unbelievable used to have an ugly orange code now. It's purple it's got a lot. Got a lot of purple ties. But I think that I think the big twelve conference last few years will Oklahoma be better tros trae young yesterday. I think yes, we do. I think yes. I think they'll be different. They won't be much fun to watch. But I think they'll get back to check and people I think they'll get back to share in the ball. They'll do more by committee. They'll be more consistent when they get leaked. Like is. My is my my my I think I was state's going to be better. I think that got steep broken really really really good coach. Dr Texas Tech now Texas Tech kind of came out of nowhere. But not going anywhere. That's not going anywhere. And you know, what are we come back? We come back. We're going to have shocker smart, Texas, and they're going to be really good. And we're going to have Chris beard. How about that doesn't get better? We'll be back with coach smart. But first, let's have a word from our friends at ZipRecruiter. Dan, you know, what you know? It's not smart. I'll tell you what not smart jobsites overwhelm where you live on news of wrong resonate. Not smart. You know, what is smart other than shocker ZipRecruiter dot com slash court site. Unlike other job site, Seth ZipRecruiter doesn't wait for candidates to find out. Ziprecruiter finds them for you. Seth it's terrible matching technology scans through thousands of resumes. Remember when you were a head coach, you had thousands of Sistan coaching resumes identify people with the right, skills, education and. I for your job and actively invites them to apply. So you get qualified candidates fast. No more sifting through the wrong resumes, wasting time. 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Head coach shocker smart is going to lead his team in the armed forces. Classic against Arkansas on Friday on ESPN. I watch be here with my man, j will they Fleming on the call shock. What does it mean to you personally to play in the armed forces classic and everything they scame stands for on this special day. It's a great opportunity for a whole program. Everyone associated with it players coaches administrators just a chance to be around the servicemen and women for these couple days. Cancer represent the university of Texas at a place where obviously there's much much bigger things going on than sports basketball. And then for guys at such a young age, a real shot at at perspective and opportunity to see some other areas of life that maybe they don't think so much about in their little corner of the world. Guys, got some perspective with with Andrew Jones in the diagnosis of leukemia. How is he doing? I know he got in a game big big ovation to take us through him and his journey with with you your team and everything involved with him. Eagle coach he's making strides attitude about the whole process of working is way back. He's not all the way back to full strength. Obviously he really finished up several months of treatment at the end of August. And literally the next month started school and starting workouts with us. So it's been a work in progress. You know, he he was such a high level player before he went down that is expectation is to get back to that point for for, you know, in his own mind really wants to do that on our side of things. We're just so happy that he. Doing well. And he's in school on the court, and we're just excited about him working his way back to full strength. It's an amazing story to me again. That's I'm outside or looking in. I tweeted this out after game someone's cut a clip of of your game the other day that that was the best play of the day. And that was the best win of the year. Just in being out there celebrating life because let's face it, a ten months ago. Just the thought of being out there probably was far beyond anyone's. Everyone's hope, but it wasn't maybe anyone's reality. So firm to be out there. I just thought it was fabulous. But now you gotta play games. You gotta put a team on the court to help you win. I look at your team. Shocker am I on it or off it right now? You're back court. Looks more like a big twelve winning backward than maybe since you've been there is that somewhere in vicinity. We got a really good quit. My first year here we had a lot of older guys. We love the ball after that first year. You're right coaches. One of the courts that you know, we feel can be one of the better hand in the big twelve. But at the same time, we got to go make it happen. Matt Coleman was I started last year as a freshman started. Every game went through the ups and downs and twists and turns of playing against the trae Young's Carter's tape grams in our Lee, but I think he's much much better for it. He sturdier he's better incur would roads. As a senior. I think has an opportunity phenomenal year. You can keep getting better coach how you mentioned guys leaving. You've had guys go bomb blast you the island kid put backup are the guards. You mention different from VCU where you where you established havoc and away you go. How's that been? How're you? How comfortable are you now as you've gone along your career here, Texas? Well, one of the things that it affects us, you guys know is your ability to build and sustain culture. Because obviously your best players are your biggest coach drivers. And you know, if those guys are only around for a year then. You obviously have to make strides with everyone else and kind of put someone else in that slot, obviously recruiting you have to do a really good job. Making sure talent wise you have a replacement there. And that's not always one guy replacing one guy. Sometimes you do it by committee. But we feel good about this year's team having a little bit more experience. And we've had the last couple of years, and we don't have a freshman big that is necessarily best player. Like, we did the last two years that presents some challenges. I'm not saying I wouldn't take. Now. And again, I certainly, but. When when your best player is a really really young kid. Just getting started in college basketball. No matter how talented he is. There's a learning curve, and there's certain things that he doesn't yet understand particularly in the first couple months of the season. You do have some interesting. But you know, you've got a guy going hausky who now he's a fifth year senior obviously transfer played last year. But he's transformed in self forget about that the do and cutting off the hair, but the dudes lost like thirty pounds. And I watch a tape of your game. Do you have the night? He looks totally different. What is it like to have a guy like that back who kind of in it with you? You spent so much time with them the area sat out kind of creating a special relationship with them, but seem transform his body and make that commitment to try to get that much better. Terrific jobs is body. It's interesting because most of these guys you guys know it at the cows level, you're trying to get in the eat as much as possible and gain as much weight as possible. But he he's on a different plan and for him. He's done a phenomenal job being very selective with his diet and his nutrition. He's done a great job getting extra cardio working with our strength and conditioning coaches, and then on the court he really been diligent about different aspects of his game. So I really hope that this year could be a great one for him because he's earned that he's worked hard for it. And it really really wants to make your special here. He said, you don't know this but Shaq had a player touchdown last colts game. Oily Cox went up. Yeah. Did you see that fire too? That was a sick cat. Got quite well, let me tell you guys when he came in. He had the lowest motor, and we put him on this plan where where he had to run. What was called the puck deck mile. It was running up and down a parking deck and then down to the end of the street and back. It was it was about a mile, and he as I was running over eight minutes. He was motor was really really bad. And it worked at that. Kids. Put in changing his motor and changing the way that he approached the game with phenomenal. So it couldn't happen to a better guy. Hey, let me just follow up. Did he talk to you about going trying to play football or how did come about? You have any idea. Here's what happened. And if you ever you should have on your show because he's a great basketball guy talked to on obviously, he's having successive football. But this is the type of kid he is he's such a go with the flow guy that when he was a sophomore in high school. He was kind of in a tough homelife situation, and is a coach recommended that that he transferred to a private school to get away. And so he did that you only problem was that private school didn't have a football team. So he did not play football is junior year and senior year, and this is after being a high major recruit as a young kid in high school, obviously came to you for five years. So that's five years plus two years in highschool not playing football. But all along. We we always said, hey. Then you got a chance to play in the NFL. If you continue building your body and continue approving your motor, and there's a friend of ours. That is a NFL scouts. He's got a bunch of different team eagles the jets and he's from Richmond. And so when we come back over the holidays, you come by practice always would say when you looked at Moee said, that's how they look. That's. That's the thing man. I mean you had Jimmy Jimmy Graham, he ended up making that transition and Kocsis as a great story. But that dude plate for you that dude point heart basketball. I mean, he he was a really really value player. Yeah. He did. Yeah. He did. Moala could play for you right now and make you better. His presence Arkansas playing early in the season different type of team to play obviously, they're so predictable pressure. Now back in the day. People would have said this would have been have it first fastest forty minutes. You're extending your defense a little bit more. But not to the point kinda where you did back at the right? We are. We a lot of night in our opener. I think it'll be situational. Depending on our team foul. Trouble. We're not to the point yet where we have the level of discipline. When the other teams in the phone is of that, it makes sense the press every single time. But I did a good job at the other night. Certainly with Arkansas it's going to be an exciting up tempo. Kane and we're going to have to do a good job making good decisions at the game gets going faster. I got question on that is it harder with the new rules to do two things you want to like back in the day. The press you could in a backward, especially you could bump a little bit. You know, you could put a little different type of pressure. Was it easier to extend your defensive press back in the day where where where officials were a little more lenient with physicality in the backward. I think the fficials feel a level of pressure to call some of those fouls and. Doesn't mean you can't press look at what west Virginia's done. But I do think that certainly entrapping situations and close one on one situations where you're really getting after the ball. There is more of a focus on coaling some of those fouls. Cylinder rule. Definitely does affect traps. You know, it's interesting if if you watch straps a lot of times guys foul excuse me guys travel, but they call the foul. I and so that's a it's a big shift a turnover with the travel or maybe going to the lines. You don't wanna one they call the file, you know? It's funny. It's almost like you should be able to do that as a rough. But it's really hard. If you you said if you watch traps, and I was watching a bunch before I did Cincinnati game last night people travel constantly are you on referees? Whenever you try. You a watch effete watch a feat during the course of a game. Well, it's interesting because it that's been the case for a long long time. And that was a big that was a big beef of ours. Because we obviously wanted to create as many turnovers as we could. But for whatever reason when there's a lot of people in a small area a ball handler. And there's to trappers it's really really tough to see the feet. And so you know, I heard on the -ficiating video this year. They said they want the officials to ref from the ground from the floor up. So we'll see if that actually happens it'll happen for a month. Goes away. Shock. We I know you've got an event to go to today. But I'm excited to see practice today. And we really do pre sheet you coming on. This would be heck of a game on ESPN radio and also on ESPN. And like, I think he put a grave this puts things in perspective for all of us. You know, people that are here calling the game. But for your players administration staff and anyone watching these young people do what they do on a daily basis. Donate blessed to live lives, we live. I said it last year when we were in Germany. It's it's probably the most moving basketball experience I've ever had because if everything in perspective. We're really looking forward to it and want to say thank you guys going into the season two to both of you guys as coaches of because you put a game in perspective that navy's a different a little bit different than than the majority of the media. So I I don't know if you guys hear that enough, but it needs to be set free. Thanks val. Thank god. I like to welcome in Texas Tech head coach Chris beard, who's done an absolutely incredible job. Coming off a magical season, but opposite building towards showing the consistency. He wants to at Texas Tech coach beard, how is life? We're getting you off the court from individual workouts dockets individual work at the dockage is whether decides to grab one more doughnut. Right. Hey, we've got some of that going on in our program. You guys came right out and. Blitz. My friend Carson Cunningham's team. You held them the thirty seven the other night. Now, thirty seven obviously is a great name is the strength of your team defensively right now. You know, a team and work that we're progress of work. I think so I think definitely the season goes on one of our big identities. Could be are we have linked to. That's what us is. We have some experience. You know, the other night and were gave us all we can handle the first half kind of has been on both sides of those games. I do think we have what appears to be the makings of a good fifteen cent. They held in kind word to seven in the second half. Forty eight to seven was. Say. There's no doubt about it. Last year was an amazing year. But like, you know, what you're gonna get from Keenan. But zehr Seth. I mean, all of a sudden he blows up he's out. He's the first round draft choice. You think you're going to have you have a one and done which is good and bad. It's great for him. It's great foot the program. But obviously, you know, when you expect a guy back you need continuity. But you have a good backward coming back, and you recruited, transferring Matt moody that that has chance to at least feel some of the void. When you look at your back court right now, we are very Matt. And and and Francis. What do you say? Regards goats. You know, we make the run last year to date, and we really return, you know, two of our three guards played most last year. I mean, we're ready was our behalf blessed your play big minutes, March bad, but he's back. He started the other night support adventure covert. I think as a chance to be one of the best players in the big twelve. So even though we lost a lot. You know, we did return to starters Culver nort's. And then you know, really are six or seven man moral and braided Francis of both return. So we do have a lot of new faces. But I think we have enough returners where we can get a good start this month coaching abroad or since Texas Tech. You think football, you know, they'll Texas football thing, but a run to the elite eight. Essentially the perception of the program outside externally. Coke in some ways more than anything. What it does is just Bella date? We got a couple of years ago. We had a vision we gotta day to process plan. You know, we ask players through things they'd never done before we asked our fan base to do things that they have done before. But as to before consistent. Ministrations been great here. We've asked for lot really haven't been told. No. So to have some success kind of validates everything that we do and build the program. I think we'll always look back when latch team and have a big sense of appreciation. We had over ten thousand people here tonight for season opener. That's hard to do anywhere in the country. Not alone. Texas when football season's going on tech football teams good this year right in the middle of mix got another NFL quarterback and got a good defense. So just so appreciative ten thousand people came out on opening night. That's got to be one of the best home Kraus's the big twelve of Kansas. Does what they do. But the rest of us. I put our crowd out there with anybody. I'll tell you. We were up there for game date, then the ownership of the community to me, and that's a testament to you coach the ownership that community, and how you've been able to connect with them in the student body was as good as any place that we've been the years that I've been doing this stuff, and I've been at quote unquote of football school when I was at tech, and and your ability to recruit guys that play a style of bass, what do you think the style that you play? People can relate to. In Lubbock, and your lumps can relate to you think that's been a big part of it. Yeah. I really do. I think what other younger coach, I never really understood that how you know. I thought just winning basketball is winning basketball. But I think there's a there's a liberty does a truth to you know, what community part of the state a kind of people did a fine with a team, obviously football. I grew up cowboy fan, but being a guy with any new so much about Pittsburgh Steelers, for example, and how they play hard, you know, good basic, fundamental just tough ball kind of with the people. Pittsburgh. I think similar here. We west Texas is a place where people go to work every day. And when you tell somebody gotta do something you keep your word, but a hand shakes out here that means so it's just a different way alive. Really good people. It's way top of my list, while local I would like to think our team resembles that we've got a lot of guys we might not have a bunch of national guys names, but we've got guys play together. We've got guys that get better. We've gotta try to play the game the right way. Let me ask you college basketball star the other day, the focus is on the big names. Right. I mean, you know, the focus is on Williamson, and reddish and Barrett and all that kind of stuff how how much do you as a coach that has gotten right to wear Duke? Did let twelve these programs get how much do you play or pound into your kids? You know, we're not what these guys are supposed to be good. As what these kind of the chip on the shoulder kind of thing. Do you do that? Does that part of what you try to get across to your team? Absolutely. We've got the core values are program like top that list is just truth. Tellers guys all the time. We just take a lot of pride. So and it like it is. You know, we want to be the best Persian of us. We scrimmage one of our close-door scrimmages was a guest, Houston the other day. And I. Great respect for Sampson what he's done a basketball and his teams voice kind of play part. Kind of blue collar like we try to after that scrimmage access code Sampson. If you talked to our team came it our locker, which your luck room sacred place. I don't let anybody block expect or like. That I've spent coach saying we comes in. And he basically said that exact word coach, and we have it up in our locker. But now, he said guys, no sense. Your Texas Tech. You're not Kentucky. You're not Kansas. That's okay. You can still beat those type people. But you gotta know who you are. He said don't ever lose your chip. He's talking about the chip on the shoulder. And I've actually got that typed up in my office. Just stick a wall with a piece of masking tape of. Yeah, we try to we know who we are in every day. We just try to be the best version of us. That's a great thing. Who who are you? How do you win? And I think those those two questions every team has got to identify embrace like if I walked in your gym and asked jar call, right? I who are you. And how'd you win? What would he say? What I say. What they call it. Tell you number one where defensive program, we don't we have to go last year among many things and many of Jackson's we told the guys we've got to be the best defense team of the big twelve to compete. I think a lot of ways we were. We're also team, you know, just believes in development improving. First thing I told the guys after last year's run was we gotta get better players next year. They always kind of look at you could be the same people. But we need a better over we need a better brain. And francis. We're always talking about improving every single day. A lot of people kinda put it on T shirt or wristband. But something we really believe. So today, I've Jekyll is to live a better. We did yesterday. Concentrate approach to that to that point. Can you read a little bit of that in recruiting kid? Absolutely. I think from the city. Even in the month of July. One of the things we always talk about is we come off the road that first week say this kind of soul, and then we come back up their second week. We're always talked about who's approved who better this weekend. They did last weekend. So we talked about that all the time. That's all the guys we've got thirteen active players today. We'll start practices afternoon saying, hey, everybody can just get one percent better that might be a little bit more effort be a little bit more coach -able being a little bit more disciplined of everybody can just get one percent butter that our team gets thirteen percent butter. So, you know, I'm no math major two point five guy. But I know everybody gets a little bit better. I came gets better two points up on me to three. Doc, did you actually graduate of Indiana. In the Anna. They gave away degrees. Drive down the snow. You went to. Hi did do that. With the man the man make you go to class, brother. I'll tell you. What I I when you go to Texas Tech practice. It's an experience. I just I truly the way the way your kids brace practice and embrace coaching. It's not like that everywhere. And you talk about that one percent for everyone. It's not a choice. It's the mandated. It's expected. It's you know. Everyone's accountable for it, but your practices, and that's the one thing about now that we're not coaching is we chance to see everyone practice. I can sit what your practice every day coach. Thank you. Means a lot to we have a lot of fun to think. Yeah. You know, along the way, I know I know this when the players come back we've had Canaan Evans, Zac, Smith Zaire even came back this summer for couple of days. And you know, we all hear that thing that guys wish they had one more game. And all that. But really what they all wish they had more practice, you know, one more time to get out there and compete on. And you know, it's one thing Tina told me today just kinda different that that level. We don't even kinda misses a competitive way ago coaches getting on your like we do in college. So we do enjoy practice every day. It's sacred to us. We told the guys all the time. You only get a certain number of these like, you know, they give you thirty practices. But it really it really. Isn't that to get ready because you got the two scrimmages you got the two days before scrimmages, which always light. And you got the one day before the start. So when you really look at it, you got about twenty three practice start to see them missed obvio-. You know, you might get seven or eight bracket. A month. Depend on how your schedules laid out. So we do have a chance to get to work. I thought that we all enjoy continued success. Good luck. Chris about it over notice. How fast guys like getting off the phone with us now, usually they love us come on. Dude. I know it football coaches, always hit you with whatever, you know. Go eagles. Go wears an Indiana. They're gonna football coaches thing is Leo love each other. So when every interview Leo, okay? How about how about how about the guy much champion day? He did he he said he didn't know it was election day. Why don't coaches think they have to let everyone know how hard work. Or how dumb they are. I mean, they sleep office. And I didn't know his election day the off why now. Office. I'm sorry. That is stupid. I got why would you just drive home ten minutes? You always live close to where you work drive home Ken minutes, getting your bed get a good night's sleep. So you know, the next morning. You don't wake up an angry, Dan back. I can tell you, and we can get into this at some point. But I had legitimate depression. I mean legitimate not not a lose lose. No now that you're going to say, no, no, no, there's a difference between that and legitimate. And I had when people talk about depression. I totally understand it not that we lost. And I'm upset and I'm going to be upset for days. But I could literally not get my head off of a pillow like that could not get that's more than just stand. I'm talking about. It's a ride the shit amount depression like legs on the floor or slept on a couch because in a minute, I got out of coaching, no more depression. No one price. I'm gonna get life. Life is good multiple podcasts, no depression, defeated life. This. We are undefeated right now. Are we going into your seven? Two long time. It's a lot a lot of wins, by the way. We like to thank coach beard. Coach shock smart for coming on hanging out with this shot. This great observation at the end of the interview. There's no doubt about it doubt about it. And you know, what if you like what we're saying? And you like what you're hearing. Please download a son. Apple podcast, or wherever you download your pockets. Make sure you also take the prime to listen to dance podcast 'cause there's nothing better than to Lee. Ross baggage podcast solves all the world's problem. Family problems family problems family problems. But do that now, you know, the one question I have to ask before we go, and I know getting upset some ticketing is junior. Wanna know what was it like seeing your son on the bench? I always marvel he's a good looking kid. And I always see my I don't know like your daughters are beautiful. And I'm like what happened? I know. You know, mothers are great thing. But cool it was cool to see him so into it. Because a Seth you went through this, man. Right. I mean, it's a tough time. We can do a whole show on on players the year after they're done playing and going to go the NBA there is a lost nece to you're right. I mean, you don't know life. Yeah. You don't know what you fit like, particularly like when you're at the college campus that you can't hang with the players. You're not really a coat. You know? I mean, it's it's a tough thing. And you're not on a team for the first time. I don't know. 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Insult To Injury

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Insult To Injury

"Breath. This is the to me never forget where you come from Jean. This has been a remarkable year from where it ended last year for their first championship. The reason for going to college is to prepare yourself for the day. You can't play football a hundred thirty five players coming out of school. Do not have their degrees yet again, another lead turning the dust the alliance gonna cover guys insurance. They're going to have to answer a lot of questions. Once you've sees treat your perception of any sporting event. Get this good. From the outside the lines. I'm putting today we've got Nike making headlines for reasons that have nothing to do with sneakers. A personal look at the now defunct football side of the af. And a baseball in verse three this spark a different discussion surrounding hardball today. I our big story. It's not quite worst to first. But if regina's men's basketball team manages to go from becoming the first ever one seed to fall to a sixteen seed in the NCAA tournament to national champions. It'll be a redemption story for UVA head coach Tony Bennett the likes of which we've never seen at this level. They got past Auburn in the final four in a nail biter that featured the first of two controversial calls from the weekend is really grateful and thankful. You know heard about a lot we knew that. And as I mentioned that I feel like I repeat myself too much in a way, it's a painful gift like it. It did draws near to each other. As a team, they could help us as coaches, I think it helped the players on the court and helped us in the other areas that you know, rely on things that were significant on the other side of the ball. Texas Tech's Chris beard, the twenty nineteen AP national coach of the year has taken an unlikely group all the way to the brink of title, they outlasted Tom Izzo and the Michigan state Spartans to create a first time national championship match-up for both teams tonight. Think just a couple of years ago. People would hammer us and recruiting talk about don't go play forbidding, those guys it's like positional as basketball, then all of a sudden, Golden State wins a couple of championships and positions basketball becomes the hot thing. So now, all of a sudden, we're cool. Again. Why are we bring both coaches because frankly, neither one of these teams has what we call stars. The Cavaliers cow guy is a former Mr. basketball from Indiana and a nice kid for sure and the red raiders Brandon Francis from the Dominican Republic is a great story. Absolutely. But in a posed I on Williamson world the ball will be tipped by two teams. That are just playing good at basketball. Even if not flashy. We bring in ESPN college basketball analyst, Jay Williams to break down. Jay, let me ask you about that very point starpower. I know it's something that's easy to just sort of refer to and talk about what do you think that how do you think that affects this game from wash ability standpoint, the general public? Well, these are two of the best teams in nation. I don't I don't think best team translates to transcendent player Zion. Williamson is a transcendent player. You still have to lottery picks on the floor. When you look at Jarrett Kover from Texas Tech. And then the Andre hunter who's a position player for UVA. But it is interesting no claim because what happens with this game. Is that these are two great defensive teams. But with the one and done rule being about to change in two thousand and twenty two with NBA pouring warm morning into the G league. Not being an alternative for other players. This could be a common occurrence or norm for college basketball years to come where you won't get the prolific stars of the game that really give it national appeal outside the college basketball fan, you'll get more of the college basketball fans dream if they wanna see the best team. But that doesn't mean the most sexy game. So what you're saying is that there's an appeal to the purest if you will for college basketball. And this mess up tonight. Yes. Oh, very well. I wanna get Virginia because Tony Bennett story in the where where this team has come from. And where they've gone you obviously played at a high level in college. What do you think about the mentality? The mental fortitude of the Cavaliers to be able to make it all the way back from that loss UNBC last year in the first round. I love a man, you know, it's like, my it's my scar on my left likely. So I got to accident two thousand and three and every morning that I wake up I have a little bit of pain, and I have to look out in my leg. And it helps me remember what I was giving from that experience. It helps me jump back into that moment. Say I have to make the best out of what today has to offer. Because who knows what life can bring your way. People can't understand why Tony Bennett or other teammates when you via the talk about this experience all the time. It's their why it's their best motivating factor. It's the one thing that pushes them. It's the best gift. They can never ask for even after they get to the championship game. He's still talking about them losing to sixteen seed and also I call them McDonald's all American game. So I've been covering cow guy for a long time. He suffered from executive this past summer. I watched him get death threats from people because they lost to a sixteen seed. I watched people Josh and clown them all the time on social media. The fact that he uses that even the kit from you and be. See that kid. I forget exactly as name that the point guard they tried to invite him to do game. And the guy even tweeted to them invite him to do game. Let them come. I wanna see his face. So the back that all these guys have used this opportunity to build off of it to lead them to the championship game. I commend them for that that takes pure strength on the other side of the ball. We've got 'cause beard and the Texas Tech red raiders spirit is become sort of a personality, you know, on the internet for those who didn't know tell people about what a little bit about what this team is a makeup standpoint that they might not otherwise know if they're seeing them tonight for the first time. Man. Chris beard is a salt of the earth kind of guy. Right humbling beginnings in his process to get to where he's at now not having scholarships early on in his career and now being at Texas Tech and having a ton of transfers came into the school from muni to to Rowen's from Saint John's he's gotten these guys to buy into something bigger than themselves. Jerick over to the last year you had to guy Zaire Smith leap from his team last year. And nobody even pick them to win the big twelve they end up doing that. This team has underrated chip on their shoulder. Their coach epitomizes that the big question will be if he wins the championship with Texas Tech. He's gonna get a lot of big time offers from other schools, so we got asked this question. They on game day, Texas Tech here to stay and you're like well, hold on a second to ask Chris beard is here to stay. I one word is Jay, what do you think about the fact that Nike says it looking into the fact it's Williamson we gotta get paid. Let's play it properly. One word. I can't give you one more. And this is going on for a long time, man. This is nothing new. This is nothing new from coaches being paid by agents to Nike putting other play players on their parents on payroll. I do know one thing this is just an in defense of his parents, this isn't allegation. So if it was proven then follow through on it. Let it be proven. It's proven. Then we have a further conversation about all, right? He's williams. College basketball analyst, thank J. Basically, keeping our spotlight on matters, NCA and amateurism related Alabama head football coach Nick Sabin had quite a bit to say Saturday about players leaving college early for the NFL draft happening later this month in Nashville now, we have guys that have no draft grade. Seventh round grades free agent great fifth round grades that are going out for the draft. And you know, the person that loses in that is the player while he's right on one front. This situation doesn't exist in a vacuum for many players pipe dream of football glory, isn't why they're leaving campus. It's paychecks the chance to get paid for something. Anything is worth the risk. You can always go back to school. But it doesn't mean that they aren't getting bad football or even life advice. It's the culture, and it's the trend and actually changed how talked recruits now, you know, I tell every recruit that I talked to the reason that you're going to college is. Is to prepare yourself for the day. You can't play football. Meanwhile, on the basketball side, one of the top players in the country. Sabrina UNESCO has decided to go back to Oregon to play her senior year when she likely would have been the top pick in the WNBA draft. Oh, we really believe that staying in school is the best decision for most players above the opportunity to get paid. Let's bring in the SEC network Paul finebaum and ESPN's today to discuss Paul off the rip you are close to save in. This is what you deal with every single program on your radio show, all these players who nobody's ever heard of trying to come out. What did you think about savings comments just in Joan personal? I'm a huge fan of his. But I use had to choke when we're not when I saw that Saturday. But first of all if there's a coach in America that can afford to lose more players than the Nick Sabin. Please show me who that is. I mean, it's a talent of riches. They're put more players in the NFL than than anyone. And when I heard him say, I'm having all. Ter- my my approach recruiting choke for the second time because you go to Alabama to play for Nick Sabin into be part of a championship. And I'm sure somewhere in there, you find out what your major is probably not immediately. But, but that's a crock, and I found this especially interesting that Nick Sabin decides to go with this after losing by twenty eight points in the national championship game that is a pattern that I've seen saving us in years past when that rare occurrence that he loses a game. He finds some way to change the narrative while you does any validity to the notion that guys come out and forget about Alabama other schools that have no business even trying this and end up in that wasteland between league and college. Absolutely. There's a lot of a liberty to that. And the numbers will support that. I just found the fact that saving is so upset about it to be the the part that that got my attention the most, and I think that's getting all of our attention. Listen, everyone of these players has some sort. Evaluation. And then they make the choice. You can't blame the the NFL then it's not a perfect system. And they're not getting the absolute grades. But they have some basic idea of where they're going to end up, and it's their choice. It's not mine. It's not yours and they're taking the risk. And the reason you said at the beginning they're taking that risk because they're ready to go. Try something else. They're ready to go try to make money and support their families. Get get get a better future for themselves. This is a lot bigger however than the Nick Sabin today. I want to switch gears to you the situation with Sabrina UNESCO is very different. She would becoming out at possibly being the top pick in the WNBA drafts mentioned, but she's going back to Oregon. I understand the national title is riskier you were topic in the WNBA, Jeff, how do you feel about all this that are you surprised by her decision and that peace with Sabrina decision? You know, being a Stanford grad, I'm really sad because she came back. And now they're probably number one in the preseason. But she made the right decision for herself. Because if you think about it the. MBA will always be there for her. She's a sure bet talent. Now the question is will she still be number one next year? Someone can emerge in the scene and go number one. But I think the bigger idea here for Sabrina is the fact that she wants to compete. I played in three final fours. She played in one. You get a taste of it. You want to win a national championship? Again. The WNBA I'm gonna just try to keep a one hundred the money is not the similar transitioning from men's college basketball to the NBA as it is women's college basketball into the WB. So that money is not necessarily big incentive or big motivator for her which means get get a shot at winning a national championship. Go back for your senior year and the difference. Here is the WNBA players. If you want to submit the draft, you go after you junior year, most people think why not just stay for my senior year. Get my degree be a little bit more mature get my skills going. Maybe win a national championship Sabrina thinking and then go to the WB where obviously she'll have a spot. Do you think this affects the way people view college basketball versus WNBA? Know your stance on the players association gets too much about that. But how do you think this affects the perception of the game? If the best players aren't even trying to pro in the league that we have domestically. She definitely wants to go pro. She just saying I wanna spend my four years and get those experiences in college. I and we have no problem with that as w gay players because the league is extremely healthy twelve teams twelve players per team one hundred and forty four players if Sabrina doesn't wanna play guess what there's going to be another great player in the WNBA that has a spot. And that's that's for the benefit of the league. Right. So the WB is great. It's an fantastic spot. If you look at our ratings from the finals of pass years our game is growing as the vice president of the w we recognize all these key metrics, so the WBZ unhealthy place, and I think Sabrina going back makes college basketball hoping place. So it's win win for everybody. Paul. I'm message you talked to a lot of fans of a lot of these kids in a lot of these sort of networks of people who exist around these schools, the real life element. Here is very serious. A lot of these guys washout and end up in towns that are just like us. Fusco who's because they can't get much further than that. After they've gotten the college. I mean, how much how do you feel about the way that this is going to end up for a lot of these kids you talk about on Saturdays. But then you never hear about for the rest of your life, very sad, especially when they give up the opportunity that we just heard about, but but again, they are taking a risk and they're trying to make something out of themselves. We had a player last year in basketball, Texas, a and then that came out early. He got nowhere. He ended up not even deciding to play in Julie, Gordon, Europe, if he'd stayed he would have gone down, maybe one of the greatest players net schools history. But I think everyone watches the same thing that we do here. They watch television. They all think they're better than they really are. So when that opportunity comes they grab it, and sadly, and we could fill up hours upon hours on this program and others most of the stories don't turn out very well today. Quickly in basketball. You know, you see these options you cover the NBA guys have different choices. They can go overseas. They can go. Elsewhere. It's not the same in football. What do you? Think about that on this from a football standpoint from what you've seen versus basketball. Yeah. I think with basketball, and it's sort of trickling down to football. There's a lot of guests men. Yes. Women out there that are telling the players exactly what they wanna hear. Which is why I think feedback is an information is extremely key. The fact that the NCAA men's players can go to the combine get direct sources saying, hey, we think you're going to be a first round pick a second round pick. Maybe you're not going to be drafted that person. Also has the opportunity to take their name out of the pot and go back to school. That's the best case scenario for all athletes out there, all thank you very much. Got coming up. The af is done with football. But the pain of it's demise is not going away for many. We talked to Johnny Paul next who's all too. Well, those all too well with that feels like. Geico presents yet another voicemail from your roommate? About the kitchen turns out when there's a grease fire. You're not supposed to throw water on it wouldn't own right anyways. The fire department is here, and it's totally cool. Can you call back when you get a chance? The co insurance agency could help keep your personal property protected. Like if danger is your roommates middle name. Visit Geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renter's insurance in our Vive. La today. Once always you'd that's the rallying cry the former Salt Lake stallions and university of Utah linebacker, Johnny Paul has heard ever since he broke his arm and what turned out to be the final game of the af season last week. We heard horror stories of players getting stuck with hotel bills and having to pay for their own plane tickets home and ignominious end to league that was looking to become a mental stage for the NFL. Now, Paul is drawing on the community to help him out. Now that he's got nowhere to play in an arm to help heal. We we bring him in now to talk about the next steps Yanni, it looks as if your arm is still a little bit hurt obviously this link, and you just take us through the steps of what happened for them moment. You realize you were injured to where we are. Now. Doing Saturday game. I'm not trying to break it with pass. And at a great safety wave what way opposed to be at come across and the hit and on got between the hit. I remember when it happened. My arm to win jello and off into the. Garages new day was done for for the season. So I would just being very optimistic. You know, like always next season. My automated goal is to go to the NFL to get film to stay healthy that thrive in into and his new league. I have surgery on Sunday morning. And I'm at the my surgery we had a meeting on Monday play was often players off on Monday and Tuesday another meeting where they discussed the. And operated to a L, and they they were going to keep us focused. I mean, keep us focused on what's what what we did what, you know, big good. It came from the league to stay out to mystic and you start asking about a medical bills start asking about hotel bills on David handle ask for us. So. Leading out. I talk to train is in on it. They will do the best to help me. But it was kinda laid off too and the the inoperational. So hey, I am stuck with. On that got twenty screws in it three plates and on what to do next. I got a place to stay and unluckily Riley one of my good friends play at university of Utah house I here and a couple of plays way with a crash over his house to we figure out next move. Did you ever expect not to be in this kind of position? But you said you went from being so hopeful you trying to get back to the league trying to get some film. What what was going through your mind when you end up on an injury. You got on your college field at a Buddy's house with that injury. What were you thinking at that point? It's not just a football career, which a in general. To tell you. Just blank right now. I'm just we just shot. We put so much into the season as a player coaches, China style, work overtime to keep us healthy. And just a just a Wicca one days all over and you put so much into it, which is smack an office. Have you heard from the af all regarding doctors or anything cereal these horror stories about them, basically just disappeared? All the players. Have you had any official communication with the football side of the league since this happened about a couple of days ago. And for me that you know, they working on things and everything will be okay. And I'm still waiting for a callback to come. I found is everything. So I just wanna say optimistic and just. Figure out when nex while. So you have heard from the league if you could just tell me quickly little bit something about the Utah community. That's come together. I see they're trying to raise money for you. Obviously, that's your college family. What's that been like in terms of how you felt from getting getting back from the people that she wants play. I say thank you to Utah community. They saw Twitter. We know what was going on and about how players for the medical Smith. When Dan about being you want? Always you were you talking Mindy Riley behind me, they came back and miss. The gofundme pays up to help me out with my medical bills things, you know, forever grateful. I'm still trying to figure out. How can I do some community to show my gratitude in? Appreciation listen real root for ya. That's tough situation. I'm sure the Utah, you community and the rest of your football family's gonna be behind you as well. Johnny paul. Thank you. Thank you coming up forty five years ago today history was made in major league baseball. But that anniversaries let us do a different discussion. Not be is next kiddos. Tonight on sportscenter at six eastern with Kevin Gandhi and Keith Olbermann college game days must see matchups in tonight's title game between Texas Tech in Virginia. And today's after noon game market turning point for the cubs. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Bruce Pearl and Chris Beard (04-04-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Bruce Pearl and Chris Beard (04-04-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week long. They always told will he was too short to play basketball. But will never listen. We'll let his work ethic. Do the talking for him. Always in the gym always running drills will new where there was a will. There was a way and he was will. But then after a second child was born be realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll gave up and buried his high tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard that Geico could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch which was awesome broadcasting from the Mercedes mobile man cave. Here's Dan Patrick final hour on this Thursday, Dan and the danettes Dan Patrick show, the EMMY nominated Dan Patrick show back to back years. We were deciding yesterday who gets to give the acceptance speech we've already wanted apparently. So we're deciding who gives the acceptance speech, and I said last night at dinner, I'm not gonna say. If we win I'm not gonna say anything, I think you guys should get up there. Get up there with you. But you guys should you know, mclovin, and Seton and paulie should say something up there on stage. That's called. Yeah. But you know, when they have the music come on. They have the red light. Like, I maybe I can have you go last. And then we could see how much time I see the red lights and warnings that it's time for that's what I'm just getting old. That's why I think that's like my Puta would just get to the halfway point. We've seen you on stage. Okay. When you're comedy. Yes. He say, I think we're forgetting a major part of this, though, if you recall last year, they only allowed one person up winter. No, we we said we storm the gates you. All right. Let's just who cares. We'll probably not invited back anyway from hopeful reasons. Yeah. If we win and we're one and done, that's fine. Let's let those people realize okay are and how about if say the jump wins. We just do that too. So outside the lines wins any of those other space MLB tonight. They won it last year. We just go up there like cognac. Okay. Tayla? When Rachel Nichols is up there accepting for the jumped you just go up there as cognac. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yup. Oh, if PTI wins, you know, the Kornheiser up there against PD their in there every year if PTI wins Kornheiser, he will be no God. No will on probably though there's parties before and after we'll will be there. Oh, okay. And we'll von will be fine. You going up with him? There are tight. No. I don't want to go up there. Absolutely. We will on. No, no, no, no. I'll tell you. What better? Not be that stinking baseball show. They'll be tonight. Wiz good. I'm taking it off. My my cable we get a little bit of you know, vengeance here for last year when they took us down. Now, they did because we in our minds we finished runner up by like one voter. Some clearly, yeah, we don't know we may have finished last among the candidates Yarmuk limits. Sometimes I wonder about our category. Is it really are? We the same categories outside the lines. Do they do an hour? Yeah. We'll do like we do three hour. Fritzy sweater? And they're going to do like, you know, international issues evolving, like important things, Michigan state gymnastics scandal. Meanwhile, we're doing, you know, something to do with fritzy journalism Smyrna, listen, we're we're entertaining to you can watch this program if you like in a variety place audience channel, two thirty nine direct TV and the NBC. Hello, no. It used to be. That's not bad your first time. You know, we got nominated by being on NBC SNL. So we just started with Biard live. They were one of our partners. So just to be fair to them. You know, what we got that platform, and we appreciated that now we're with dot com. All righty. We'll edit that out of the rears. I'm sure we will be our live dot com. You can watch live sports on our live champion's league quarterfinals that begins next week, April ninth, you got Tottenham versus man city or Manchester City's we like to say exclusively on beer live watch Liverpool versus Porto coverage begins to PM eastern on. We have the meat Friday zones. And we have the two finalists here Holly in Pennsylvania, and then she did meet on and then translators translators. So those are the two songs the meat madness bracket challenge brought to you by Trager, and you can vote until tomorrow in the final hour of the show. We will crown are champion here. You can only vote on the DP show app poll question. Mclovin, then we'll get to Bruce Pearl. Okay. Which coach needs a title most for his legacy Pearl is winning follow closely by Izzo. And then then it goes Tony Bennett, then last crispy crispier will join us coming up as well. Declares for the draft. UCLA settling in on Jamie Dixon, becoming their next head coach warriors Lakers. What could have been that's tonight in bucks and the Sixers earlier this morning, in fact, before the show started Bruce Pearl came over in his warm ups and sat down with us. And here's the interview with the Auburn head coach. Joining us now in the continental tire coaches corner. He's auburn's men's basketball coach, Bruce Pearl eliminated. The three winning is schools in college basketball history during the tournament. And of course, he joins the long list of grown men wearing warmup suits at the final four. Yeah. Yeah. Bringing the energy here. Height of guard. But the weight of a powerful. Do you have any basketball talent? How good are you at basketball? No, no, good. Now's a better football player. That are baseball player. We'll have jammed up a basketball coach I tried out for the basketball team Boston College got cut Tom Davis was the head coach there sauce. Impassioned some energy some emotion. And I didn't wanna I didn't want to just like no means not yet to me. Right. I know that's not a safe slogan these days, but. I know what you mean you mean? And so I became a manager. And then I became a student assistant. And then I became the director marketing, and then I just hung on my senior year. He got the job at Stanford. And he asked me to go with them. And that's how I got my start in. We've talked about this where you were there with the the Boston College scandal the point shaving. Yeah. But you knew nothing you did you sense anything that was going on? You know, there was. There was times during some games when some of our more aggressive offensive players weren't taking shots. And then there were some times when some of the players were accused to be involved misled ups that they probably will you think how can you miss that? Yeah. So, but I had no idea. There was any connection along those lines just sort of in hindsight, you look back, and you makes you wonder, but when you saw that documentary when you saw the thirty for thirty like it takes you back in time. And you're you're right there. What did you think that the that the guys were victims that they were preyed upon and a lot of ways as as young kids, and it's our job as coaches and administrators to predator. Protect them to understand these things are passable. But how nervous are you? Now. With just the advent of open gambling now just feels like this is almost becoming commonplace in sports, and we're talking about college athletics as well. You know, you talk to the guys about it. But you're right. It would be the same thing. If somebody could get out our guys and understand that you know, what's in it for them. I mean, I'm at the final four. I'm not exactly what's in my contract. But I'm sure there's a nice bonus in there for being here. Well, you don't know if you don't know because you know, I don't know I've not looked at it. I don't want. I'm trying to separate the two really am just in my own mind going look, I'm grinding unfocused next opponent. I do recognize that this is gonna mean security for myself and my family, which is a blessing, and I tell my guys look, I'm fifty nine years old. I worked really hard for this. And it's coming it's coming. I wish we were able to compensate them more now for their efforts. I got a great idea. How about an annuity? How about just this? As a rather than just paying the athletes. We have a much more realistic scholars than we did before. Which I think is great. And our families got to come to the final four with some travel expense. I've been at times I've been at tournament where we'd go and parents could go couldn't for the trip or you get their losing. They gotta go whole immediately. And it was but how much money are. We what is I on Williamson worth this year to college basketball? Millions see that's the hard part is how do I separate him from a point guard at Iowa? How how how do you separate him from a woman skilled hockey player at Iowa? Well, no, that's part of the issue is they're all student, athletes, and they're all worth. And so what's what's fair? This the system's not broken. I will say this, Dan. What was I on Williamson worth a year ago in Spartanburg, South Carolina compared to what he's worth nine months later at Duke. He got the platform he took advantage of it. And so and so the system's not broken, I do think we're working to making it better by making more realistic scholarship. And we're looking at ways that we can have the kids. Get more benefit than they're getting right? You've eliminated the three winning schools in college basketball history. It's pretty good. Somebody ought to do it. Well, write us, right? But but you realize you're like you're here at the final four and you're working. I know I'm usually here at the final four Colin you guys asking if I could get a little face. Yeah. That's true. And it is weird to see grown men in warmups. It is not a great look. But only here is it normal, and maybe the sopranos like that's about right? You know, I talked to our guys before you gotta look at the road to the final four, and I broke it all down because you've got gotta show them the path. I knew that New Mexico state was as going to twelve is there wasn't a tournament. And we were the only five events. Now, maybe Oregon was a tougher twelve in New Mexico state. But that was going to be hard for game. I told him the I can Harsken wins the first one. And then I went here. It is Kansas Carolina Kentucky, but we're trying to make history which at Auburn. We're trying to make history. Not just winning a national championship beginning final four, but look at the road traveled. And so I wanted to say we wouldn't have it any other way he's Bruce Pearl head coach at Auburn year thirty for thirty eventually when it's all said, it's going to be fascinating. Well, yeah. It'll be the good the bad and ugly. I know mean that's for. Sure. Right. Maybe not in that order. You know, when they do those thirty for thirties. They. Right. You're right to not be in that order. Yeah. If you if you could sign a deal tonight that I guarantee you win the national title on Monday. But you don't coach again. I you retire by choice. Yeah. I to win a national championship. I would have to find other ways to to to to to this ministry. That's what it is. Then it it's a ministry. It's it's affecting others and affecting kids and have an effect on a campus. So. My first reaction was I take it. Because that means it to win a national championship box checks. I've won one division two. And a proud of that. Where is that trophy? It is at the university of southern Indiana and Evansville, Indiana. You didn't even get. Oh, no, no. No. No. No, no. I don't need to have the trophy. The trophy is just the extrinsic. It's just the hardware. I don't either. But didn't you insist they build a statue of you at the school how now here's what I want. Here's what I want is what I want. I want them to build the entrance way to the student section and call that gate the pearly gate. That's what I want. I don't want the court. Well done. Yeah. With the two. Well, I googled you. The names that came up for. I've known you along time. I I was wearing younger way younger the first name that comes up is Bruce Willis, Bruce Lee, Bruce Springsteen, Bruce Jenner, Bruce, boo dro-, Bruce, Willis movies, and then Bruce Pearl. So if I put Bruce in Google that that's not bad your head of Bruce almighty and Bruce Arians. So you know, you got Willis and Bruce lean Springsteen Bruce Jenner mean. That's still counts. Yes. It does. Yes. And Bruce Willis movies, are you famous in Auburn it, you know, a football. This is a football state. Yeah. But you're still coaching basketball and a football state. Yeah. People in debate whether or not we're football school or not we are football school. We're always going to be a football school. We're proud to be a football school. But don't ask the women's softball team that because we win there too. And we went in baseball when we went in so many other things and so offers a pretty really really cool place has Barclay called you. Oh, yeah. Last time. Today's what did he say just that? He he's gonna miss coach, you know, and things like that. But he's been that way win or lose. Here's the other thing. I mean, Charles authentic completely. And he appreciates Auburn because nobody appreciates where they are in life more than Charles Barkley Charles Barkley walks around going. Oh my gosh. Can you believe the life? I live he openly talks about it. But he recognizes that it wasn't coach Sonny Smith and Auburn university being patient and yet holding them accountable in the proper balance, he never would've survived. He never would have made it out of their life. He did. And then he grew to Louis today. Today's a wonderful man, g of your speech ready for Saturday pre game speech. It's always the same. It's passion poison purpose. Play with passion. That means. We're gonna try to play harder in Virginia. If we can which would be hard poise handle the moment, you know, look around at some point prior to win this twenty minutes on the clock in her stand. What you wear you on what you've done, but don't let runs get get a hold of you. And then and then and then our purpose would be to focus on the process. Not the end result. How do we have to to try to be Virginia? And that's daunting task is a really good. Once last time, you cried I cried last night over what I could cry right now. Just blessed look at that look at that stadium behind you. That's where you're going to be Saturday on the sidelines. Final four with an opportunity to play for national championship. It's a if I can do it anybody can do it. Then don't you feel that way yourself? Sometimes. Oh, I mean, it's like cynical. Really am. I really of all the great coaches, the coaches that I've had such respect for, you know, I'm working my way to the at least in this moment to the top of our profession. And it's my emotion is out of her the the respect that I have for the others. And so it's yeah, it's it's it's a special special time all won the bet. I told you I'd make who's Pearl. Crying is. Yeah. I will. Wait. Wait, wait time out time out about the eyes are watery as a minutes here. I I haven't seen now there's a tear on the left side. Yes, right there. I can get my director mango. Not too close. Back Cleveland backup to run down your face tears. Running down your head. Areas. Hopefully, their tears of joy, always great to see it. Thanks for making time. We appreciate it. Thanks. That's Bruce Pearl yet. We had a bet prior to the start of the interview that I'd make Bruce pro cry and I did point. Yes. And that's if you check the records, that's the second person we've made crying student. If you go back to the day of the super your worst, you told Roger Warsi like Ron you realize that you're eagles have won the Super Bowl, and it's real and he turned around and looked at the stadium, and he lost it. That was a great moment. Because jaws was such an eagle cheerleader, and he played there in I think it just like it hadn't sunk in. And he was here with us the day after the Super Bowl, and he just looked back to the stadium. And and he just started welling up Chris beard, the head coach, Texas Tech. He said he would cry to that if Bruce Pearl did than he would do that. So he'll join us coming up. In fact, he cried as soon as he met me. He said, this is a lifelong dream of always looked up to you. And so got pretty emotional already. Yup. Oh, and the I team also has a report on coach Pearl when he came in and his tracksuit he walked in he's waving to the crowd. And there was an incident with myself. Pearl and I've met him before I kind of a little bit. I put my hand out to shake his hand. He went in for the fist bump, and nobody flinched. It was like two cars come in each other and playing chicken and his awkward couple of ALPHA's that we are neither us flinch because I'm an old school handshake guy. Yeah. Coach Pearl state fist-bump and we made concert. And if you see it's both disturbing and entertaining. Yeah. Alpha's? He never broke fist. I never broke shake, and I'm proud of myself, you know, as a handshake guy. But it didn't look good on TV. Pearls. Good. He's entertaining is. But it's been an interesting when I said, you're gonna make a great thirty for thirty. And he's like, yeah. Good bad and ugly. I go not necessarily in that order. It could get a whole lot better than that. Thirty for thirty FIA wins on Saturday. I Chris beard the Texas Tech head basketball. Coach will join us coming up here on the Dan Patrick show. We'll take a break eighteen after the hour back after this shocking. Now that the NBA also can is over it's time for the second half of the season to get underway. It's a tight battle in both the western and eastern conferences as teams vying for playoff position that I've been saying for months, there's only one place again in all the action, then online dot AG sign up today for free account and use the promo code podcast one. And when you make your first deposit you'll receive a fifty percent bonus. That's promo code podcast. One NBA silent is heating up. Don't miss out on over fund better. Lon dot AG online sportsbook experts. Experts in sports at trade can make or break your team a good one community championship. 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No matter what you're doing with your car. You gotta check it out. That's truecar true. Cash. Offer not available in all areas. Got a meet and greet a little bit later on this afternoon. Four to six local time here in Minneapolis. The bus stops be when stopped by I think myself, and the dance will be there be great SIA are celebrity bracket challenge brought to you by subway. If you want to see so nothing's changed because we haven't had any games, but they're still only four people who can win to Jim Parsons can win all can win Chris Harrison, and you okay? I have Michigan state winning it. All yeah. Which is going to be awkward as crispier. The Texas Tech head coach comes in. And then I have to tell him that I've got Michigan state. But you know, I'd rather tell him up front, and we can deal with the consequences. We normally lie to coaches, right? Because I think all these coaches during the turnament, I would say I I have your team winning at all. This is a new thing. I tell the truth. Yeah. I think I said in New Mexico state. I think I said have you guys winning at all? Yeah. Mclovin. Just say, college, basketball and. Recruiting Dutch extend the truth a little bit. You can lie. You you're going to get playing time as a freshman that coaches still say stuff like that. I don't know. I did you get recruited. Yeah. I mean, it was I was a math league. But I wasn't. Okay. Well, how do they recruit them athlete? You know, you take it the task. Recruited a basketball. What are you crazy? They a pocket protector and the whole debate club. You get a scholarship for I know. Yeah. You could been good you integrate it that and to beat. Oh my gosh. You wanna talk them off the stage. But isn't there a strategy to debate? So yeah, there's a lot going on like you can't no I'm being serious that debate. Like, you can't get emotional. You have to pick your spots of when you were going to deliver a hammer. Yeah. The total rules, but you would have been amazing. I just can't do that in high school. Yeah. I'd never instance by took the bait class in my communication school, southern Illinois, this embarrassing, and our debate seem Sutherland is very good nationally ranked and I liked the class. And I ask the teacher Fekete triumph for the debate team, and they had tryouts, and I didn't realize you have to talk very fast in debate. You don't speak slowly, and I tried out. And I go how do and I need you to be. Smarter. Yes. Martyr, and he goes, your your your points. Aren't that smart? And I was like, wow. That really uniforms for debate. Yeah. It's also there's a lack of with the shoe companies debate guys. It's really dirty business. Then you don't wanna you wanna get into that. Like pocket protector. They go after young. All right. Let's make way for the Texas Tech head basketball coach he's Chris beard. Joining us continental tire coaches corner. He's been I I if you do I wanna know if he knows where he's been all the different coaching stops. But he's found a home here at Texas Tech. He was there as Bob Knight's associate head coach at Texas Tech from two thousand one to two thousand eight and he's got his team in the final four. So let's welcome in crispier. The Texas Tech head basketball coach. Come on in coach thirty and six on the year. Lost Duke at Madison Square Garden earlier this year and Cy on only scored seventeen but ended up losing that game coach joins us now. Coach great to see you. Glad to be here. All right. Can you name in order all of the stops in your coaching career go I used to make fun of coaches that couldn't okay somebody look and see all of his coaching staff. So we can we can fact check this. But this is what people don't realize they see you at the final four. They don't know where you've been for the last fifteen to twenty years. I Paul you're ready. You got the list we have Wikipedia. There's we believe in them. Okay. How many stops? Do we have there? Just to let coach refresh his memory of all of his coaching stops. I got twelve. Okay. Coach. You're ready started at the university of Texas with Tom penders? Then we went to Encarnacion word with Danny Kaspar. Okay. And we made a great move to Abilene Christian with Shannon Hayes, and we got our first head coaching job at fort Scott community college hired by eighty Kevin Gundy, lake let let North Texas ninety seven hundred ninety nine have already messed it up. Okay. Yeah. You've had a lot of stops or victory. Thank you for that job. Foxconn? Okay, then. Yeah. After were we went to. Blink christian. Correct. Shannon hays. Then we went to the visual on first division. One job university of North Texas in Denton worked for victory. Sorry. Coach. Then we got our first head coaching job fort, Scott community, college, Kansas. Kevin Gundy hired as their coach Gundy will be at the game Saturday. Nice really looking forward to seeing him more than coaches. Oh defense next head coaching job with similar state, college and Oklahoma. Hi, rusty, being then I had the chance of a lifetime got hooked up with coach night. And Pat had a great rant run in Lubbock. And that's where it gets a little little complicated here after Lubbock went to South Carolina and coach the warriors the ABA South Carolina warriors, I wouldn't even aware that there was a team there. We did have the corn dog del. If you score one hundred points like will Ferrell and semi pro. Everybody or not I love it. Okay. Full more stops. After South Carolina words, we went to mcmurry university in Abilene hard by coach Ron homes, then we went to Angelo state are by Dr may AD Shawn Johnson. Got a first division one chance. They only went to Little Rock. Chase Kahn gave us an opportunity. We took a small trip to Las Vegas. And then we ended up at Texas Tech and proud to be how how to do. All correct did. Well, and we're all on time. Chris thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. Enjoy the final four. I like that. You you blew out your a CEO that was during again, right actually know you'll win against St. it's even more embarrassing than that. I blew it out the night before the game in practice. Zeier Smith is in the NBA now instead of flare screen from the corner. So I showed him how to do it for my knee. We wrapped it up. Really good that day and aims Toko ch- prone. Don't tell anybody, but I'll probably have really quick handshake with you. Because I can't walk within the flow of the game nine Stevenson. And I had a little bit different opinion on what we should do on the key offense of possession. I forgot that my knee was tore up. And that's when I fell down. So most people think that I taught in a game but actually toward the night before. But you said that you. You wanted to finish the game. You didn't want them. Those those fans to think you were soft. Yes of always loved I was state fans at the best post game Millan all college basketball late. What do you in a warm roast beef sandwich or after the game win or lose? Yes. Oh, so I've always loved state, but their basketball people, you know, the cheerleader your team, even if they're rooting against you. But I have even more respect for him now. Because literally nobody made fun of me. Even though I fell down on my face in the middle of division. One national television game love, I was stay people. So were you good at basketball? Am I all mind? I was because we had Bruce Pearl in. And he barely played. He said I flip on baseball. I was a five year redshirt, the university of Texas. Coaches great coach punishments and time with us last week at the regional in Anaheim. And I think I don't know if he's just getting a lot nicer or maybe his memories starting to go the other way, but he's got me scoring like eight points a game. I've seen I just remember sitting behind the bench. You know, not giving him a pointer from time to time. But how do you teach if you haven't played you haven't experienced? Yeah. What is a lot of the play. We just maybe didn't play at the highest level. You know in. Nobody loves basketball more than me. And so a big part of my childhood growing up. I just wasn't a division one player. I knew early on that I wanted to coach. And so I got a great opportunity coach. How do you stay married with all these stops? I'm not married. I didn't. Yeah. Over one. Oh you did over one but yet three daughters three daughters and a beautiful girlfriend now. Randy's try to do a little bit better here the second time, but it's so tough on families. Yeah. With your travel recruiting you're up rooting. I mean, that's I think that some of this that people. Don't realize that's a big part is final four two on the emotion goes into. It's not just the games and the players. It's like just thinking of all the people, including your family that gave you a chance to do this. You know, I've been coming to final four for almost twenty five years. I was the small college guy sleeping in my car. Trying to get the free food from the buffet sitting. So high up top you can't even see the floor. So this this weekend, it'd be great for so many reasons but just thinking of the path and then thinking about the sacrifices my family made. Yeah, let me get to this point pretty cool which dislike where you look over your shoulder. And there it is. I mean, you're working Saturday in that building and play for the national title, s just awesome. First of all looks like a pirate ship whenever coaching a pirate ship. But. Now, it's everything. Not will get nervous. We talked to guys like this. We to simple planet, Texas Tech. This is not high level coaching. We sent him along want to smell the roses. Like, we don't want to be that team. That comes down says, it's a normal trip. It's a this is not a normal trip. It's the final four so we've been enjoying everything. But when it's time to play we want to try to be us. We want to be the team that got us here that seeing that one of the big twelve river season championship. So it's that fine line between smelling the roses enjoying the ride. But then also trying to play our best game of the year Saturday. You're also you're known for your defense this great defensive team Virginia's great defensive team of Michigan state great defensive team this defense win championships. I think so you know, teams that guard at a high level defense can come in different forms. But yeah, you have to guard you have to guard on your end, you gotta do it all year. So it's the DNA of our program Mark Adams on our staff. One of the best guys that nobody's heard of. We had a great nationally ranked defense at Little Rock and still surprise. We have it at Texas Tech coach hard to recruit defend everybody wants to be a score or wants to be a star. And you know, you're trying to get guys to play. Defense. Well, I heard your other saying you didn't pick us for the Michigan state game. I did not know the whole truth telling atmosphere, you know, may maybe recruiting maybe recruiting we don't talk about defence quite. But you better be able to play defense. If you come to Texas. We're twenty minutes in the first practice, and we hadn't pulled the balls out yet. Matt Mony looks at me as I coach. Shoot. So to Shire's. You're Norman Dale. Yeah. We just don't have the preacher son same fares and the wheat fields. You get fired up though. Yeah. No, no doubt. That's what we are me. You can't hold back emotions. Don't want to not during the game. Does anybody your daughter's ever sake that? Oh, yeah. Hill. They get embarrassed every game. They're like most people though when we win they won't be embarrassed. If you win Saturday problem don't win problem. Yeah. It's kind of kind of life, which what's the worst moment aside from blown out your ACO where you look back. Are you watch cell phone TV and guilt? And that's not good. I'm not a very good dresser. But I saw coach Pearl. I think I look a little bit better equipped for no offense goes we're both under armor, though, who is a well dressed coach Jay Wright last year. Although Jay that's not fair with looks like Williams. Always looks the ball classy, damper classy, coach K's men wearing that same blue blazer. I think for about thirty years, but it just pops man he's got the reign of victim. Yeah. He's been great. By the way, sent me a tech. I'm just a normal guy man again a couple of years ago. I was down here, you know, drinking draft beer trying to find a ticket. And now, you know, coach K like text me this week. So it's like, it's the real what did he say this, good luck Swede? We'd played them in Duke. Or here's your a great game. Except for we kept giving the ball to Duke. And then no, he's just been great. I think I think people kind of some some see themselves in our teams because we try to play the game the right way. I mean, we're talking to crispier the Texas Tech head coach joining us here continental tire coaches corner, you're one of those lifers. You're one of those guys that you might not notice. And but then all of a sudden you notice how his teams play. I don't know what it was that. Bob Knight goes, I want you as my associate head coach. This is a great coaches of all time. How does that happen where he notices you and notices something special in you gadgets, really fortunate? I'd sell the guys all the time. You're going to get a couple of breaks in life. It's up to you to recognize them and take advantage. And that was mine. It was like a PHD in coaching every day, but a big piece of my relationship with coach in my store was Pat night past the one that endorsed it, Pat. Today's thorn of my best friends. So none of this happens. If it's not for Pat, an obviously coach night, what's your favorite story. Coach night. You know, I was thinking of going the other day people would just write him. Letters and call in just for year after year, basketball wise, and he you know, he he'll get to it eventually. But if anybody just even wrote him a letter about anything to do with hunting, he would call Amelie. So one day we were in the office. And it was when coach had a reunion Bill. Russell Havlicek Charley pride of all different lights for their support. And coach because it was his first game coming back from his year absence between Indiana tech. Yeah. And there's a bunch of people in the room is talking about. And I've been trying to get a hold of Bob forever. I've been trying to get a whole coach night finally got him. This one guy in the middle of the room. Just leave is come flannel shirts. Like, that's funny. I wrote Bob not a handwritten letter. I didn't know he was he called me personally the next day in the world kind of stopped. And what he means like this guy just had like a dove adult lease some land out in west, Texas. And he wrote coach letter if you ever want to come out and hurt them birds coach sees the letter puts up the phone call. That's Bob Knight. Did did you ever walk in with cammo and honor all the time as a young coach one time we had a Saturday morning practice, six AM. And I remember thinking what are we doing? But as is Bob Knight. I'm not questioning anything, you know. So about thirty minutes into practice. It was a really good practice in my opinion. But coach went crazy on one like close out kick them out you guys don't want to practice today. We're done goes crazy. We walked back to the locker room as a young coach. I'm welcome back. Their thinking I'm about to see like a Bob. Knight moment in the locker room coaches comments can convey, but he's putting on cammo as I sometimes you gotta shake the tree. I'm going to hunt Turkey today garden City, Kansas. So so he orchestrated that. So he could go hunting. Absolutely not do that. It's not based on hunting. But like, you know, if I if I'm really hungry, and I wanna early dinner on might just kind of create some confusion at practice and kick them out on. He really really how would life change if you win this thing? I really don't think it will. I mean, I, you know, I am who I am. So did UCLA reach out to you. And I'm here to win a game. Okay. No. I underst-. I understand you got you got things. But I was curious because that's a compliment to you. But UCLA reached out to Calipari. And I'd heard they'd reach out to you as well. May not not me personally. Yeah. I've got a cell phone that I answer about once every three days. So there could be a lot of people reaching out to me that I don't know about which by the way, I'm sorry. Everybody out there. Next. We've got kind of rule in our family. Our group of friends is like, you know, if you're that guy didn't return Kohl's. Then you're buying the round the summer when we go to the river. But I I don't think this is qualifies me having to buy all the beer. I can't believe that three years ago. You're drinking draft beer trying to get a ticket just to go to the final four like you just want somebody to notice you. And you wanna talk basketball what you know, what are you doing? Now. It's just a great game. Instead telling people though, they like basketball care the game. You know doesn't care if you're like, how can I be in this category coaches? Oh, and this is because it's the game. Yeah. It's the love of the game. It's getting a team to go that loves it, and you pay the price and at the end of the day the sports greater than all of us. And I think that's why guys like me get a chance boost Pearl cried before you verse emotional, when's the last time you cry. You don't suck music Cryer? Actually, tears of joy the other day. I go to the same place almost every morning breakfast burrito. And people ask me all the time. How I stay humble. This is how you know. I always order it and not forget to order the extra sauce. So what's the name of the place? And I got about three I go to. So I really don't wanna go there. Oh, you don't want to mention that. Okay. Trouble. Every time I mentioned one place. I'm talking about. But always forget to order extra salsa, and then it's thirty cents. And you gotta get back in line to play the thirty. So I get my first head division. One job. You know, Texas Tech. Maybe I got a little bit of ego on eight like get that extra salsa lays like, yeah. Thirty cents. So that's not the. Also the other day. Finally, moved want some gangs made the elite eight last year, we good. But finally the other day, I get there. I forgot the salsa same thing. And I was like they get that extra number Sma pocketed like coach it's on the how thirty thirty cents. You know, what if you right? If you win Monday night, you'll never run out of salsa. There's no way I'll ever get like the Brita comp. Maybe. Maybe I'll get the sweet tea work on that. We'll work on that. Congrats. Thank you know. Because as I said, it's a long road. And there are a lot of people involved in it and their casualties along the way. And you know, you hope that you're a good dad your daughter, you know, those kind of things, but you're here with a team that shouldn't be a surprise to people that I'm sure it is because they forget what happened last year when he lost to I believe Villanova so good luck this weekend. And just so, you know, if you do beat Michigan state you ruined my bracket. I I hope that happens you. Okay. All right. I'm fine with that. 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John Calipari, Jay Bilas, wait, wait. Wait. Wait slowdown patches down Patrick Ewing, though. Patrick Ewing is back in the man. Okay. John Calipari is back Jay Bilas. Okay. Ernie Johnson junior allu- each just nominated for a sports. Emmy, that's right. And Jim Nance will come by as well as before. Hello friends. Well, that's a show. All right. That's good. Yep. Yep. We're grilling tomorrow outside. Just like we did when it was minus the traeger here. Oh, we got some stuff ready for cooking. I am not a liberty to say what do we cooking? I know we're making I heard it's a local juicy lucys. Okay. Explain juicy Lucy in in Minnesota and other places but Minnesota's known for juicy lucys. You basically take two hamburger patties more than together and put a huge block cold. She's in the middle of the place to do it different ways, that's a standard, and you cook it and it's too burgers with cheesy. Goodness, intertwined. Shoe burgers cheesy. Goodness, intertwined. Yeah. It's all good. Okay. All right. So that's tomorrow. And also we will have meet madness. We'll have the voting and in the final hour at this time tomorrow. We will crown our first ever Hebrew national championship. Now. I know we haven't discussed this. And maybe I shouldn't be discussing this on the air. Why not I think traeger should give the grill to the winner the show us grill. Well, no, I'd rather get them. Nice grill. He may wanna show us girl. Okay. Drippings, well, we can I mean, it's not like a game used jersey. But it's a show us traeger. But I think that that we should be now we I think we have a trophy, but we're going to keep that in the man cave. And then just put the name of the winner. It was so we keep their trophy. Yes. They want right. Do I like what their name is on the trophy in the man, cave thoughtful? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Fo the second place winner gets Fritz. These game used jersey Milford community college jersey in shorts Mollica first place award. But I guess you could give it on long run around that we decided and this was management who decided the standard and practices that said we needed to blur out fritzy's groin area because he with his basketball shorts on tonight's appropriate destroyed. It's not anything tight that underwear on. They said it was especially. Take a lot of graphics. Not necessarily. We see night of bet where the fritzy was wearing under or not. And no underwear was the Duke of the bet everyone, but we're showing fritzy, where's the I thought it was pixellated. There's a graphic that goes up there. What are we doing who's asleep on the wheel there? That we had a good director this time. Oh. Yeah. Michael happy, by the way, we were all going to wear the mill for community college jerseys and back row is represented when semester you guys I thought that the back row was punking you guys. And then they said, yeah. Because when we went to dinner every we brought in our jerseys. But everybody said there they've pixel me fritzy's Greiner that thought this was like a, you know, we were going to come and I felt bad. I did I felt bad when you were all decked out with your. He was on because he's like, I'm bringing mind I'll have mine with me on Thursday. Tomorrow we can. That's it. We'll all wear our jerseys tomorrow. We'll really do it this. Yeah. How about the sports Emmys where? Oh, yeah. You could get up on stage it to accept an rip-off. Yeah. Everybody wears their basketball jersey to the sports Emmys everybody. Okay, there we say take that the jump. Yeah. We're kind of more outside the lines Poche show plans. We gotta meet and greet here in Minneapolis that some four to six and then we have team building. That'll be a dinner coming up later on tonight, by the way, I send you a picture of your fish. Maitland whole snapper late fantastic. I enjoyed what I ate last night. But I never had food wailed. But you can see what it looked like when it was alive. That was a little stricter eyeball the fish. I almost didn't need. I didn't know it was going to come that way. It was funny when they deliver that fish and then for teachers stared at it 'cause Fisher staring at me. I said we'll just it was very uncomfortable. Like, really you. Can't eat anything else. You had to kill me. But it said hold, snapper. Forcing not making the collector of the whole the gully, whatever the skin in the bones. If you like St. everything is just died a few minutes ago. I look and right now we were watching fritzy eat it. He didn't have much remorse when he was eating and he was elbows. Good. Yeah. But it's just a strange. They never ate anything where you could see like what it looks a little weird. When the waiter goes. Yeah. Just got it out of the lake today. And then you kind of felt a little guilty is play chick. Now kind of talking to what did you learn today? 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REShow: Pam Grier and Rodger Sherman. Hour 3 (04-01-19)

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REShow: Pam Grier and Rodger Sherman. Hour 3 (04-01-19)

"Orig- is on demand. Your show your schedule. Fifteen minutes after ball dot com. Check out the casts at richeisenshow dot com. They always told will he was too short to play basketball. But will never listen. We'll let his work ethic. Do the topping for him. Always a gym always running drills will new where there was a will. There was a way and he was will. But then after a second child was born he realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll give up and buried his high tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard that Geico could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome. All right hour, number three of the rich Eisen show is on the air missed the first two hours. Where have you been we chatted with Rex Chapman and Chris beard? Rex Chapman the longtime Kentucky, wildcat and Chris beard. The head coach of Texas Tech basketball and the head coach of the New Orleans Saints Sean Payton, just walked us through how they got the instant replay rule passed in the National Football League. But this is one of the many reasons why I love doing this show. I got super winning head coaches like Sean Payton, and I got a final four head coach Chris beard, and I have a longtime. Great Rex Chapman on the show. And then I turn to my right to kick off hour number three and see none other than the actress. Pam Grier right here on the richeisenshow how you doing pan. I am doing so. Well, thank you for the invitation or script coming here because I just love sports. I was raised. I was lucky to come from an environment of rural military urban. So I got the best of all worlds, you've got the air force academy and the jets flying over and they have basketball football. We even play flag every thanks giving and back home in Colorado. I freeze my corral. A so we have ice rink and we play ghetto hockey people versus the dogs and everyone brings their potluck. And they bring we played with a broom or dust mop sneakers in the dogs. Everyone's dogs like twenty thirty dogs with with tennis balls, and we have to get the tennis for hit it into the net for a dog gets it and runs through the chorale dogs beat is three years in a row. Imagine that the dog can really get something. They lose their mind. You can meet you lose. But it's so much great neighborhood who we respond to each other's cultures. Very well, ghetto hockey hockey, and they called me mama g so my my will be my hockey. Well, I mean, it's interesting you like hockey. Well, Pam you've lived you've been living your best life. And you're now in this film, blessed in this TV, show bless this mess on ABC. As sixty April sixteenth. We'll definitely talk about that in a second. But you are just telling Chris, that's Chris my buddy Chris across the way over there. You just telling us before high Crean's at Penn. Are you? Right. You were just saying before we started that who did you who did you have over to the house that you said when they come Jones's playing bass for the Rolling Stones. And he came over wants to the ranch all get lost. And they're gonna die because it's a two lane country road. And then I had snoop Dogg exhibit and trae they had a concert and fillers. Green and I invited him over to breakfast. My mama's early eighties at the time. And before they went on the show and make sure that a barbecue guy delivered food to them. And I try to take care of folks when they come to town. And so they came out had breakfast. They had like nine hundred aids fifty pounds, vacant toast, juice and everything ends loved it. They wanted to see my horses, which I rescued for their pretty writing program. These will be horses these jumpers. These grand prix jumpers not tiny spoil her. So snoop cities going, you know, he wanna ride we wanted. He ran. Exhibit who has half his size that I'll do it. You know, it's always the diminutive hero that takes charge, but my horses were acting up. They came down slide and jumping and book and escape everybody. I said what you don't act like this all the time. And so I said, no, I don't want to get snoop heard. He's got a concert. So, you know, stay back. Everybody was fun came out snoop have Jin with his juice. No breakfast. No. He did not. But he has something else before breakfast. Because when they opened the door, and my mom and are standing see I bought a small one level brick ranch house right as so my barn is bigger than my house. So we stand out there. And they say we we're looking for you. We're looking for and they drive right by turnaround, come back. So they came up to the drive and said we thought it was the helps house. No, it's a small house 'cause I really like a house like Warren Buffett, you know, small brick house, you know, very pretentious, fix it up on the inside. And so they Jovan parked in all the whole crew twelve members got out of the van they opened the door smoke billowed out. I hit my mom in the face. And she said, oh, that's spicy. They proceeded to have the munchies. And so did my mom. She sat down with him. And she owes eaten eggs I was like serving and cooking for an hour. Like, oh my goodness. So anyway, no wasn't any gin and juice here on the rich Eisen show. Who's the most I guess talented athlete you've ever met with a worked with or came across or anything like that. Well, through the fifty years of my career early early on was burden Louis cinder junior who became Kareem Abdul Jabbar who is my first boyfriend when I transferred from Colorado to try to get into UCLA film school. And I'm telling you, I. He looked at me at a club where all the Commodores hanging out in Crenshaw, and he had a cane and glasses, and I was this wall flower with the one skirt and one blouse, and and he came up to me. We saw this fish catfish out of water and. He said where are you from look quite different. I looked like a homely country girl, Colorado by Wyoming, and he had that look like black people. People and we ski we skate, you know, I've been scancen cells located riding horses and stuff. So he was the first, and then I had met Rosie Greer later at my second job at Keio w radio. He was promoting think Daniel Boone at the time, and he came through. And they said, you're Greer you related, and I said he doesn't look like it. You know, we we don't have the nose. So I don't know you can use it if you want to, but I don't think don't come to my house with your size because my mom say he out of house and home pleased on invite him to the house. So those are the second and then. The late Florence Joyner Flo. Jo flow. How'd you meet her? She came to see me in a play called Franken Jenin that clear Delun in San Diego. She and her husband, and it was so great to see her just learning her nails and her hair and she wanted teach us show. Imagery, a that women could still be beautiful and have nails and hair and they still haven't broken their Heregger. She was outstanding and brilliant and smart, and she came to see me those no inviable anything like that is so uplifting because I ran track as well in high school. I ran the dashes hijacked hurdles I bowl those in the bowling anything to keep from doing the dishes. I was doing sport. Okay. Send it all worked out it worked out clear, and then I met. Irvin. Magic Johnson he'd opened up his theater. So I've I've been able to meet a few you've worked with Jim Brown. Correct on. I did the original OJ's Jim Brown. Fred Williamson and they vary. Fantastic athletes, and actually I met Jim early. And I didn't know who he was I was visiting some friends in the Hollywood hills area six seventy nine hundred seventy one I was trying to get you know, four or five jobs. So I could stay and go to UCLA, and I said, oh, look at this hill. I could go hiking no-one hikes up sunset plaza drive, but me with the for vest on hiking. Stick in my nine dollars ninety nine cents Sears, hiking boots. I started hiking up the drive end Jim Brown in a Mercedes convertible with. Fred with a bevy of beauties hanging out all over driving up sunset plaza. And they saw me hiking is she do is that who is that country as women walking hiking since plaza drive. And so they looked at me. And I think that's Rosie Gruzgas and. Just because you have the same lunch. Yeah. But I don't know where they'd seen because I was not known the first week. I was there. I did get to back up saying with Bobby Womack. And then he said, I have a friend who needs some more singers. So his name is so faster Stewart, and since you think when you play keyboards play instruments, you know. It's double triple scale three hundred dollars a link. Oh my gosh. I drove out to California with thirty three dollars a bucket of chicken, you know, so three hundred dollars. Like, I the next day went to CVS records in walked in the elevator in the the guess, he's not the manager. But something with the session, and he came to me said. Okay sign and you'll be getting triple scaled have you ever worked with wonder love? Stevie wonder's wonder laugh, those many ripper ten cerita, right? Then as Williams and seeing these fabulous singers. I've heard and I'm like, no. But I get to if you don't kick me out because I'm acting really stupid right now, I says coming in and in beat semester, and I walk through where the glass window is to the studio sly in the family stone. There's this afro his fist fringe. He's got the base amazing and buddy mouse's playing drums in the background. I I just froze imagine. I just hear I really was off the beet truck. Did you ever your last one for your did you ever come across Ali you ever meet bomb at all? Yes. I did. Yeah. At at a benefit. And unfortunately, he was quite ill at the time. And they always invited me to go on trips and things like that. But I'm not one to do them. Not really some of that goes out after nine o'clock. I'm kind of conservative person because of things that happened to me in my life. I kind of watch myself. Yeah. Well, now, you're on bless this mess on ABC premieres Tuesday. April sixteenth like bell and Dak shepherd play a fan. A couple from being. Brassica they play a young disheartened couple newlywed. They leave the bright lights big city of New York to go back to the heartland where we all find our heart. Okay. And they're going to go back because I believe in the heartland where I live in Colorado. The farmers are the hero of the day and without the farmers. There's no food and for them to come back and just jumped in head first feet, I but I thinking they can be farmers overnight. And they think they can do it alone until they meet our motley Crue. I'm new sheriff the theater director. I know everybody's secrets I know who's creep. And who's doing what I've taken drug people home, my bur babies and meet me and Ed Begley junior and he plays Rudy. Dax Shepard plays Mike and. Late bail plays real. They are the most talented energetic actors they make what could be silly. So rich and humorous everyday things that you just watch them. It's just joy, I work with him. And I brought some funny to them. Because when I met lake, you know, they're thing will Pam lives the life. She's she's in dirt. She loves animals. She's this is what she does then they clean her up to do movies. And so I didn't know how they would portray these wonderful people in the heartland in announ, only in New Mexico in Nebraska, and Kansas, and I will Wyoming my mom's from Wyoming. I know these folks and they don't curse I don't curse around children. I don't curse out say Kaku doodoo PP, but I won't use any other. You know, anything that will offend them. And. Came that morning, right? From the farm jumped in the limo took off my spank. So I'd have a knock on and I smelled like the farm and I walked into FOX studios, and I smelled the part. And that's how I got it. And you're here on the show talking about bless this mess. Wonderful and they blessed messenger. April sixteenth nine thirty PM eastern time on ABC. We're about to see a clip of for the television only segment. Great to see you your. Thank you for coming on the show. Thank you, very Jin. Obviously Jackie Brown Tarantino. And then the entire filmography. My goodness fifty seven years, you just compress. He did it. I try to say thank you for coming to Colorado. You have to do my show. Why would love it? Are you kidding me? Yeah. I do. Here. It's such a party. We'll do from Navarre tastic at Pam Grier on Twitter. We'll check out a clip when we come back here. Chris Brockman news update on the other side. Big Ben, listen to me, did he not seems like Big Ben and John again, stay they're gonna win at all. I don't know ass dachsie was from Michigan. So I can support my bro-. Pam Grier here on the rich Eisen show. News update when we come back. Shanking the NBA. Also, we can is over. It's time for the second half of the season to get underway. It's a tight battle in both the western and eastern conferences as teams vying for playoff position that I've been saying for months, there's only one place again on all the action. Ben online dot AG sign up today for a free account and use the promo code podcast one. And when you make your first deposit you'll receive a fifty percent bonus. 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And that's what's the fall and Winston sense fishy. Can state soaring to the final form the Spartans have done it. They knock off the number one seed do sixty eight sixty seven that's Westwood One. Call right there. And even if even if Winston had been caught to be fouled. They were many fouls that do cat to give. Yeah. They didn't hadn't had enough fouls for the last couple of seconds. They went from being a bonus that they could play hard defense to they need foul. Man. Michigan state getting hit done who do you put this loss on credit Michigan state or Duke blow it? The hot take, you know. I mean. How do they blow it? I mean radishes hurt. Right. I'm just saying the one over the minimum overall laid it a great second half. It's not like he was bottled up. It was tough to be J Barrett. Missed a free throw. I know. So but these dukes free throw shooting in three point shooting were their most suspect parts of their game all year long, just cr-. I'm more of the giving the credit right there. It's not like Duke missed a whole bunch of shots missed a whole bunch of this or that it's just a tight game. And you need to execute down the stretch and Michigan state did it better. Crazy, man, crazy. What's the poll results? We're nearing your news updates. Biggest disappointment this season, Duke basketball or the Laker season. Lakers, crushing seventy six percents hard to disagree with that. Because again, do not making the final four is disappointing. An ultimately as Rex Chapman said at the very beginning. He viewed that thirty eight and oh Kentucky team that lost Wisconsin in the final fours of failure. Which is a rough one the other direction, Mike. Hey, you one thirty eight straight games in a row, but you're not remembered forever more that's still in accomplishment. Sure. But you didn't cash it in the patriots seventeen one is at a failure of season. I sixteen team we've seen since the dolphin since the dolphins didn't win sixteen games in a row. No eighteen and one they eighteen patriots rate team one. Yeah. So that h one team is that. Probably I guess failure disagree. The same way that this one is is is. I know I started off the show by saying that they failed in their accomplishment. Same thing Seattle manners that one this one. This didn't even make didn't even make the final four who's going to be the one in our business to have an heartache later on when the NBA draft comes up Zion. Shouldn't be number one overall because he didn't lead his team to the final four who's gonna be that one. Or will actually will actually not see it. Ben Simmons team didn't even make the tournament. Yeah. Neither did Lakers. The Lakers not even advancing the ball of their figurative advancing the ball. They don't know about any of these guys any more than they do coming into the season about their ability to blossom ability to be a star, the the Robin to LeBron's Batman no clue. The only difference between last year and this year is they have LeBron James, but they have O'Brien James who was hurt for good part of this year. I word. Let's get to a news update. Brought to you by our friends at Honda here on the rich. Brockman with federal live report rock men with the niche about one hundred dream garage spring event where you get a great deal on the Honda of your dreams available Honda sensing and loads of hi tech features. You won't want to miss out on these deals. Head into your local Honda dealer today. Christopher so we've been talking about it. Endlessly, Ben Rothlisberger and his radio show. Will that continue? He should shut that down. I said they he should ATM it and the Steelers should tell in the shutdown. Well Cording to fan side. They're citing sources saying that Ben Roethlisberger expected to relinquish his regular radio show in Pittsburgh prior to the season noting that there's hope that it helps his standing with teammates. Big Ben, I applaud you, sir. I applaud you in whatever radio funds. He was getting from that radio show, and he was donating to charity. Maybe the Steelers could pick that up and a great go ahead and do it because as I was saying his ability to sound passive aggressive or be passive aggressive and his ability to create a whole different news cycle. Should just be boxed in to his Wednesday appearance at his locker. That's it. No need to do. This other was now apparently he said he wanted to do it to have a an ability to connect with fans because he was being viewed as being aloof from fans. Let's find out a different way to do that. But this is a great step forward sent a sense of self realization that I think is a positive. Well done. And I only spit truth and deliver advice here that I think is well intended, no are saying one extra sentence and in that regard. I think in about fifteen minutes time, we're about to see if my advice helps. As you know last week on Friday show, I recounted my Thursday night of at the games in Anaheim pond. Upon watching Michigan go down in flames. And part of the entirety was I was sitting directly behind a member of the ringer who you identified towards the end of my rant and as Roger Sherman the ringer. Correct. I talked about how Roger. Which showing a little bit much of himself when he was leaning forward, and I was able to see from my seat. Plummer situa-. Correct. By the way, great great fancy name Plummer situation. He heard that the ringer heard that he appeared at the final four the elite eight game to go to the final four between Texas Tech and Gonzaga apparently in a sport coat and about which he said he was wearing at the time on on the night that I was there on Thursday night, Instagram live, the whole story out about our take on it. He is in our green room, right? Yes. He's tried fantastic. Roger Sherman of the ringer, right? Couple. Again. I only dispense quality advice from a place. Like, I told Big Ben get ready aradio show. And it looks like he's going to do that. We'll see his radio show. The dress code the belt if you will of the local, Pittsburgh, Steeler, conundrum, gotta fix it. Looks like you will needs to be fixed aren't a couple of things here. Giants co owners John Mayer Steve Tisch, both said recently, and they were open to ally. Manning way for it returning in twenty twenty round Faulk, Yano and wise said keep people in the organization think Eli still has something left up. Also openness can't boy this NS extension of his contract into the twenty twenty season. Are they just watching something different than we've watched? The last is think that they are watching something different with set of is. That knows what might be an issue. This guy ran the wrong route that guy had the blown protection this had nothing to do with allies problem that he lie when he does have time. And he does have acne does have. He does have Z. That's the guy to do it. They do extend him and they do get. It's you know, if they do have a conversation with him about extending him, and they say if we extend you you might be the guy basically to tutor whoever about the draft, or if they don't like the guys that they are drafting if they have like a neither here, nor there if they aren't sold on Daniel Jones, if they're not sold on I'm working through the I'm not saying that I believe this. I'm working through at the mindset is drew lock. He's visiting. The giants are not sold on Wayne Haskins if they're not sold on these guys and. It's neither here nor there. It's a toss up when they're on the clock at six and fourteen and there's defensive players or there. Our offense minded players if they are all there. For them to take. Then this is their back pedal situation, where they're like, hey, we were talking about extending him. Anyway, here's his extension because we need them around for the guy that we're taking next year or they're going to go ahead and get Josh Rosen anyway in this is all one big screen of smoke to tell our Zona. We have no problem. We have no problem. If you don't take our second round draft pick for Josh Rosen. It's all part of a piece of a puzzle to let them think in the same way that Kyla Murray's dining in open. They raiders are dining an open air for everybody for my buddy affects me to say. Hey, guess what? John gruden's having dinner with column right now in the same way that I counselled again Big Ben heard me he did Roger Sherman. I think we're about to see from the ringer when he shows up maybe in a nice Brioni suit. Right. Nice Brunello coochie Nellie outfit. Billions win the grey is the billions again that he shows up here. I told the cardinals have a great public dinner with Nick Bosa should make a big show of it. And they did and they did that over four in over the weekend in Fort Lauderdale. Let everybody know that there. They might take Nick boasts after all of this. Great way for the giants to basically say what we have on the table Arezzo China for Josh Rosen. We are fine. If you don't take it because we've got ally. Manning, we believe in them. It's all part of a large puzzle piece this draft that is common out in a wash in twenty four days. And I wait some good news for buddy. Mike. I also have. Oh, yes. Go ahead. Oh, yes. Urva tweeted up before that he was getting some tests. He was worried about throat cancer claimed his father a very young age, Irv Instagram's over the weekend tests came back cancer-free, great news. That is my awesome. That is great. He was was concerned Packard as dad passed away and of of throat cancer at an early age. And he was worried about it says it just turns out maybe he was just screaming too much about Cowboys. And it just literally hurt his vocal chords. When they beat the saints man, scary situation. Yes. What else? Okay. Cool. So we mentioned Laker shutdown will Braun James this year. Joe Vardon of athletic also, add to LeBron's knocking to play for team USA this summer in the world championships. Also never intended to even after he in the wake were out of the playoffs. But we'll. Bron leaving open the chance to play twenty twenty and the went. I mean. Why wouldn't you play in the Olympics? He's one of the all-time because he owes it to the Lakers to be as healthy as possible for his remaining years. Proven to be a disaster. So far on my gosh. Somebody's going to get Durant. Somebody's gonna get kyri. Somebody's gonna get. What would you say Butler, right? Yeah. Butler Anthony Davis at somebody's gonna get. Coli? And not everybody can man. Yeah. New york. Doing news pointing out that obviously the next to make a run a Kyrie Irving hit their sources saying career actually prefers the nets to the Knicks. If you. What she had said last week. Right. But the ngelo Russell is there. I mean, why would the nets do something like that? Right. He could prefer the nets all he wants Durant's the better fit. Let me ask you this. If you're out of silver. Okay. I have made you Commissioner of the NBA. Congratulations three she ate it. It's a bump in pay and obviously job. Worth onto workload. Yes. Do you suspend your mongering for texting out? I mean for tweeting out four initials, the initials of the referee, who by the way, did you see that that call that Durant? I did not see the wrong. Durant catches and fires. A three and is fouled on the play. They way often say was before the shot, which is positively absurd. You have absolutely every right to be upset if you're the Golden State Warriors. Okay. And again warriors are are locked in a battle for the one seed with the Denver Nuggets. So this is significant and every game significant right now, and he he tweets out the initials of the referee who blew it and initials of TD. Yeah. And I don't think it's Terrell Davis m K the right MK, and it's not Trent Dilfer. I mean, how many more can we come up with Thomas Davis? No. It's it's obviously everyone thought it's Tim Donnette Indiana gate. Yeah. If you're out of silver do use do you find him? For four letters that have nothing else attached to it except the. The attachment to the game. That's tough. I think you definitely have to bring him in conversation or phone call at at the very waste to say. What don't do it if asking what's asking about? Yes. What's that about? And if he gives you a satisfactory answer tell him. Hey, don't three answer that it was a to wanna hear his explanation of why he would do that. And I'm sure dream on greens type of person that'd be like, hey, this felt like a fix, and then you have a conversation you find them, then you find them 'cause there's nothing different between that and saying that the referees screwed it all over. Not really realize no difference. If somebody coming out in the in the locker room afterwards and saying that was an awful call. That's terrible in the the referees awful to same thing. But destroyed up accused him of fixing Xia game. Good. Lastly, real quick. Did you see the Sergio verse Matt Kuchar thing over the week? This is amazing in matchplay, please they're playing a quarterfinal match over the weekend match-play event that Kevin Kisner ended up winning coocher verse surgi-, so it's seven Sergio has a seven footer to win the whole MRs by about six inches. Does the thing we all do on when we're playing we go up we tried it. We tap it in move onto the next one Sergio misses the Tappin right because he leaned over the whole like he didn't set his feet. It was just kind of walking up slapped at things missed it. Well, that gave the whole to Matt Kuchar. And so that it wasn't ruled at the time but later on Matt Kuchar revealed. That Sergio is like said to him. Hey, man, you should concede the eighth hole because you saw what I was doing back there. You know? Well, apparently cooter tried to concede the whole to Sergio hit it before. Let them and he basically said to the monitors of this whole situation to the PGA to say, look, I still want to concede it to them. They say you can't the rule say you can't do that retroactively. So once Sergio heard that he wanted Matt Kuchar just cough up the eighth hole to make it even anyway. Right. Go onto the ninth and coot did what I would have said to which is no. So then they were visibly arguing with each other on the court. I mean, you gotta say Sergio, I tried to give you the whole you hit it too hard. You blew it. I still tried to give you the whole. I was told that the rule saying that I could not I'm not going to now. Go ahead and say, okay, take the eighth hole in its entirety. Going to do that. Also, certainly what if coaches like my favorite home. Of course, the. Out of all the holes on his course that I know I'm going to take today. It's the hall of all I have no idea if this is out of all the holes that I know is shaped for my ability and his Lee shaped for his ability as the hall. And now because Sergio did what he did on the seven. I I have no problem with that. And it just goes to show you that if anybody anybody after one happened with Matt Kuchar and that caddy a few weeks ago where he agreed. He had the caddy fill. Toot cat, local guy. He said, we're, you know, I know you don't have you know, what to piss in plan for ten grand total. Right. That's it. And then he wins. And he basically says deal's a deal. I'm not gonna give this guy. A king's ransom for the guy. But normally with just the normal five ten percent, right. And everybody was saying what gives and finally did the right thing if anybody could then turn around and make Matt cooter a sympathetic figure. They're Sergio Garcia who used to spit in the cups bag in the day. Two quick baseball things at Giancarlo Stanton to the injured list ten day with a by substrate does antibody arts six-year pension Binks to a total of seven hundred thirty two million with boss, who's next Mookie? I sure hope he's got to be right shirt sales done. Obviously, your boy David price has been done for. Why do not want Mukhi tests? Free agents Zander Bogart's, Don makes an nice movement. Then keep Benintendi and off you go. Let's just be a lot of Henry dollars. A lot of speed Seattle starts. Okay. Very good. Let's Nick in this quick phone call before route your Sherman of the ringer shows up. Here client, Texas, you're on the rich Eisen show. What's up clay? Rich as duper never talking to superstar like yourself. Stop. What's on your mind? Brother, a calling about the passenger parents role and the reveal just I have a scenario with the hope is not the case. Hopefully, you can tell me on layoff. They say that it's late in the fourth quarter and the quarterback throws it to a receiver, and for whatever reason it didn't complete and but the challenge flag goes out anyway because they want to review a pass their parents on the backside of the play. Hopefully, that's the case because that's gonna hurt the game. Here's a scoop play is that it's only pass interference of the balls thrown in your direction. So anything that's on the other side of the field would have to be some sort of defensive holding or legal contact. And if it's not called you can't challenge that anyone on make sense yet. All right. Let's all go about our days and just and have a good day. Klay in Texas. You got it. Let's clean, Texas. I've heard that a lot of people say, but what about off the ball? Can you start challenging stuff that we don't even see in the screen and the answer is no because it's only pass a defense of the ball goes in your direction if it's somebody else's direction. It's a different type of file that is not reviewable and another thing too. You know, that's the thing. I loved about what jumping was talking about last hour is that the league wanted a flag on the field. To indicate a challenge meaning they need. They wanted to take that red flag wanted to coach take that red flag out and throw it on a field and say I am challenging what wasn't called or what was called as opposed to plays over no yellow flag on the field. Hold on a minute. We're reviewing this thing with eight minutes left to go in the third quarter. Because the sky judge has the ability to review it somebody who's sitting up there. Is buzzing down that you don't even see buzzing down. I had a problem with that. And the other problem that they had with it was at their seventeen different sky. Judges would seven sixteen different games. And you have to have an alternate. What if they're not on the same page is to what constitutes a flag? And what doesn't that? There's now an inconsistency in the same way that you're seeing targeting inconsistent from conference to conference in the in in the NCW, which drives me nuts. I think they got a right or best abilities close to write as they can say where do you see what Roger Sherman looks like from the ringer? We've been having fun with the wringer over the last seventy two hours and fun. I ran into yesterday's dead. Yes. On a beach. Rocky threes. No, okay. Just hanging out with families. I mean of all the beaches and all the towns in all the world we had a run into each other on that one. Roger Sherman next. Everybody's got it to do list. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance to that list thing things. You don't have to drop off or pick up. Anything? All you have to do is go to Geico dot com. And in fifteen minutes, you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Extra money in your pocket. Of course, this may be the most rewarding to do you do today. Podcast one sports net is your home for the best coverage of the final four in this year's March madness. 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Texas Tech coach Chris beard, Sean Payton of the saints to come on the show. Pam grier. In studio. She's in CBS ABC's, ABC's bless this mess. Tomorrow new show on CBS, tone bell and Nina Dobrev are in the show. And now, they'll be your together. Also on tomorrow's show. Doc Rivers will call in as the clippers. Just finished up there tied for their best month ever thirteen into Christian Leitner will join us. Maybe she go over the UAE Duke stuff with him and then in-studio Roblo. So that's on Tuesday's show to shop Monday show finishes up with my new friend from the ringer here in person, and it's good to see him from the front this time since my conversation on Friday show is all about the backside. If you will Roger Sherman good to see you sir from the ringer. Yeah. It was it was very jarring to. You know, get done working on presser. Oh, and then the next day all of a sudden people like did you see this guy from the ringer his Butler's hitting? I don't think you said, but I can say about but spots not a. I think it's okay. It's still wearing the same hat that. I saw from the backside. Yeah. This is the this is I this is this your gear like is this the way you this is the Roger Sherman coat of armor backwards hat. I enjoy the backwards hat. I normally wear it. I'm press hero. But I I I clearly identified to you as a ringer person you did and that naming parts. Able to specifically identified the company of the by that you saw. So I had no idea that you are behind me. I was kind of trying to look at the basketball. No, you were also like zoom in on like the Cambay keping. Keping Makamba is he was in the Florida state contingent. And you're shooting different parts of parts of everything we're showing your Instagram live work right now. So that's why I was prepared. If you were to zoom in on me behind. I really was gonna flip you off. Roger I try to focus on happy fans and Kane because so you did you did say it was surprising to see someone doing Instagram from the game. Well, just I it just seemingly let me put it this way seeming to be your only job on press row. However, I have since read your work, and you clearly are a writer, you're not just zooming in on Instagram live. There's a lot of things that it's it's an additional responsibility that people at the end. I mean, it's it wasn't your only responsibility. Now, it wasn't only. I'm also writing story on Texas Tech. But like it's kind of incredible. I mean, you know years ago, you just had like six hundred eight hundred words. Capture the entire this game. And you know, now, I can basically just show people all the sights and sounds that they can't see on TV and that they can't see from home. And you know, you're kind of bringing people to the game. So I think it's kind of a really important and exciting thing that it might look dumb because it's too Graham is the site where or no, no, no, I do not. I do not view it as dumb or anything like that. I just don't know if you went to northwestern to Instagram LA mainly it was like three years of Instagram classes. They tell you how to do all the angles. I mean, that's that's why colleges nowadays it's the same degree unit. Yeah. I didn't get that. I saw you had the northwestern degree up back there. It's I'd I'd to get a masters. So you went to school there. So I root for a worst football team. 'cause you went to a better. Amen. Your your college football team went to the big ten championship gas ten west champion that actually happened and one time they made the NCAA tournament. But that allows me to be really impartial with covering the actual the tournament. I would in the residence conversation air instead of using that word I'd say, however instead of but. Yeah. You know, I'm just gonna throw that out there for or like where ass. Yeah. I'll try to be a little bit more care. No. No, I'm so I just wanted to have you on and clear the air and just say that you are, you know, you're you're welcome here. I don't want to well, I kind of have been looking my entire career to have a media feud. So this is you know. Like. I mean, you seem like you're not interested in the media feud aspect of it. But I was I was really hoping for it. You know, they're hard to get. Yeah. I feel like most of them are like somewhat fake. But you know, I just been wanting to have one. And I thought you know, after you saw my, but this could be my big big media feud and doesn't look like it's working out right now. I mean, we can we can we can we can work on story could legitimately or try to make it seem like I'm kicking you off the set right now. I mean, you know, I could do I that's not my style, though security getting can actually do security here. I'd fully clothed this time. Wearing all. Oh, so great your Instagram. Like, I'm not gonna show my ass today. It's very important to set goals in life and not showing your ass should be every day. Wore sport coat did you and you tied up time. I wore a suit nice considered wearing a suit today. But I just moved out here and only have one suit on the west coast. So you're getting the this and the other suit is back east. So when when does your Texas Tech story come out, I'm I'm finishing up today. Hopefully that'll be a on the ringer suit. Yeah. We had Chris beard on today seems like a really normal, dude. And he seems really good at coaching defense that was absurd that night. I was in a bad mood. I'm sorry. I mean, there was you picked the wrong night to show me Half Moon. You know what I'm saying? It was just the wrong. Are there are there? Good. No broad your eight to tell you. There are not good. Learn that at middle school journalism. I mean, yeah, it it was a bad night. But you know, you've got a appreciate what Texas Tech does defensively. They're just everywhere all the time. And this Chris beard wasn't. It wasn't head coach for years ago. It is in Saint Roger I appreciate you coming on. We do a segment for our app on the rich Eisen show called overtime. I'd love to stick around you right here. And we will see you on tomorrow show again. Clear your workspaces. Make sure it all set up Nina Dobrev stroll in here with her nineteen gazillion Instagram followers. I respect that way less. That's on Tuesday show. We will see them. Hello guys may fighter kale. Senate. Check out my podcast. You're welcome. With kale son at every Wednesday and Friday right here at podcast one. We cover the latest in mixed martial arts and everything else. Going on in the world of sport. 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Shaka Smart bails on Texas to take the Marquette job (Emergency Podcast)

"You want it. We got you shock. Smart has left. Texas is taking the marquette job. We're going to break that down. Talk texas is opening its candidates and there's a couple of the things with the coaching carousel. That have been bubbling behind the scenes in the past couple of days we touch on that at the end of this episode. Emergency podcast sirens go. Gary friday march twenty six two thousand twenty one. Welcome back to the cbs. Sports eye on college basketball podcast where we sometimes discussed camel fighting dodo birds and leaky blackman men. New orleans is here with me and their words. Big breaking news earlier today on the coaching carousel shock. Smart has left texas to become the next head coach at marquette. Dead-leg your thoughts. On what i think that might be an actual quote win. Shocker was okay. So i got source telling. That shock was talking with marquette's administration about being this new this new coach here and they were on a call and they were trying to offer terms and they said here's what we got shock and he says now i don't know if that's exactly what he said but it seems like that might be the actual case here any excuse to give a little. That's right okay. This okay so gp congrats you confirm the news shortly after this. This feels like let's just talk about how this played out. This feels like can happen real fast. I had one call thursday night. That said hey don't know how real it is but you know shock marquette feels like they're you know just keep an eye didn't get any sense that this was going down friday morning but it damn well went down and He was always. I think loosely connected if there was going to be a change there but to me this was this was real quick when the marquette job opened after it removed the school st hausky after seven seasons literally. The first thing i did was take somebody who works in this world and said how easy or difficult would it be to bounce shock to marquette if he were willing to bounce to marquette and the response i got within seconds was there's always a good market for shock and so i i i don't want to say definitively knew he was gonna be markets next to coach then if i would have said it but i knew he was in play and yeah once it started coming together i it came together pretty quickly and i think and i would both agree in the spirit of career longevity. This just smart is just a smart thing to do what i tweeted. The news on friday morning immediately on you had some people college basketball fans presumably or just sports fans in general replying with what what. Why would the texas coach go to marquette. Why would shock smart league texas to coach at marquette and i guess on a very surface level if you don't understand that the circumstances in the context of the situation then then maybe that would make some sits especially considering shocking turned down the marquette job in two thousand fourteen then a year later took the texas job so that tells you once upon a time what he thought of these jobs in a vacuum he turned one of them. Took the other one the next year but nothing is happening right now in a vacuum. This is not shock. Smart at vcu as one of the hottest coaching candidates in america trying to pick his next job. This is shocking. Smart coming off of six years at texas with some nice stuff. Three of the five. Ncwa tournaments finished top three in the big twelve each of the past two seasons. But yeah never wanted an ncaa tournament game in most recently got upset by abilene christian. And so i. I was told even after the lost abilene christian. Like he's safe. It was like they're not gonna fire a guy who just won the big twelve tournament who just had a top twenty. Kim tom team but undeniably. He was going to inter- next season now. That archie miller has gone as the face of the hot seat list. Every list was gonna come with a graphic of a photo of shock. Smart and so. What chuck is picking between. Here is not between being the coach at texas for the next six years or being the coach at marquette for the next six years what he is picking between is. Do i want to go into year. Seven with zero. Ncaa tournament wins in real job pressure. And by the way every person in my fan base yearning for chris beard or can i go get a fresh start a really good job in you know one of the best leagues in the country in a major metropolitan city. You know at a program that is going to pay me Comparably if not better and in a program that's got real tradition in history. You know they. They've got multiple coaches who've taken to a final four. And so when you line those two things up. Get a fresh start. Fresh expectations of fresh fan base. That has happy to have happier as opposed to another fan base. That is ready to see ago. I made it a point a long time ago. Never tell people what to do with their careers. So i'm not gonna say. This is what shock i had to do but based on everything i just explained i do think this was the smart thing to do and put it in a nutshell to use one of your other maxims. That you've written about talked about on the podcasts over the years smart had essentially reached a point where you know ninety to ninety five. Percents of coaches can't wiggle out of this. It doesn't it doesn't always always go this way but almost always it goes this way he had hit stage. Where once you get onto the hot seat working yourself off. It is extremely hard to do. And so in doing this. At marquette it is the most advisable kareem of there's no question in for marquette fans who are passionate you know perhaps to a level that texas basketball fans are not because market is the primary sport basketball is the primary sport on the marquette campus as opposed to football texas. Do you get the sense. They're excited about this do they. Are they happy. They're shock smart or are they wondering why we just fired. A coach who couldn't have ncaa tournament success to hire another coach. Who hasn't wanted into a game since he was at bc. That's a good point. In fact shock a smart has not made it to the sweet sixteen since that one. Final four run with vcu in general that he won first round games the subsequent two years. It is interesting and if we'll just surplus just circling on marquette for a quick second here. Because i believe wasn't chocolate mar it was gonna be porter moser at a column go up on thursday which actually kinda led to the tip. I had about About shocker just saying read your column. Just you're wear like just keep keep an eye on that deal so porter moser weirdly like he's still in this tournament and now he's off the The marquette board. I think i think he would have been just as good of a fit and and just as eager to potentially take marquette as shocker. There are the fans happy. I haven't gauge the reaction here. I mean we had hq. I'd also back to the hotel been busy. So i haven't i actually haven't even seen or had a chance to take in the collective response there if you're a marquette fan i think he should be. I mean shock a smart big picture. Has he been as successful as his would suggest. I think it's fair to say the answer to that is no because there hasn't been the tournament success and he didn't win a game at texas. He never won a game in the big dance when he was with the longhorns there but he's back basketball. I institution in a basketball. I conference in a spot in part of the country that he knows quite well having grown up in in that state. And if you're marquette there's reason to have some optimism and excitement if you want to have some reservations about this. I think that is fair but big picture of your marquette. You were going to get a coach of renown and you wound up getting that done here with shock smart. I'll be interested to see how he does in that league I do. I kind of really the fit perish like i. I wouldn't say he was the wrong texas he just didn't achieve their to level that people would have hoped but i do think that he's going last longer at marquette than he did at ut. I would assume so as well. And if i were a market fan i'd be thrilled with this absolutely thrill like i know. Some of the shine has come off a smart over the past six years. I get it. I still think he's good. I still think if you're marquette. Here's what you just hired a forty three year old former final. Four coach who has made eight of the past ten. Ncaa tournaments now Did you wanna tournament game at texas. No that's that's a big bullet point and that's part of the reason we're here right now. If they don't turn it over twenty three times a against abilene christian and allow abilene christian. Get twenty seven more shots than them in the first round of the tournament. Texas probably wins that game definitely wednesday game and then you know maybe in the sweet sixteen right now and we're not even doing this. This really is tied directly to the abilene christian upset. The there's no getting around that. Because i if chocolate. We're in the sweet sixteen right now. It's possible market. Wouldn't even wait on him. You know and if you went to the final it just it is wild to think about. How people's lives genuinely change based on a random first round upset in the ncaa tournament but but here we are again. A lot of people on twitter going to point out. The negative zero instantly turn wins at texas. Hasn't been to the sweet sixteen since the time went to the final four. And it's all fair because it's all true. I'm not here to argue facts but there are other facts and this is a fact forty three year old former final four coach who has been in eight of the past incidentally and who has shown that he can recruit at the highest level of the sport. There's no reason to think he won't be able to get players at marquette and when in the texas thing didn't go perfectly. I do think it's fair and accurate to point out. He lost his leading score twice. Midseason wants to de facto suspension slash transfer and the second time leukemia. And so he with some bad luck stuff as well. But but either way. If i'm a marquette fan right now not only am i happy i am looking at my administration and saying you probably did better than we would have thought you could do here if we were having this conversation six weeks ago or even two weeks ago. Yeah and that's a big job that just closed arguably non our top three job. That's closed really enough now. Texas has opened and now you have to higher level jobs that are open. Their chris beard is the name. That's going to be attached to this. Most dominantly and i think that's fair. It's this situation now. He's in the league. He's in the state. He is a coach that is regarded as someone who can. It's it's six and one half dozen the other he can stop. People could see him staying forever. Texas tech and by the time he's done he has turned that thing into an absolute monster two decades from now or he could go get a huge payday. Challenge himself to another program because he has his road the road he took to get texas check. He's got just incredible backstory about the jobs he had like. You wanna talk about a guy. That really paid his dues. It's chris beard so his perspective on all of this is interesting. It's way too early for any of us to say here's candidate. Abc and d. none. That's not how texas works. This is going to be obviously a fervently tracks search. Chris beard needs to be as high of a candidate as anyone. But i don't yet know who else would make ideal sense. That is a big name. I do wonder like again. This is just off the top of my dome. Like would texas look around and if dana altman beats usc or any anfield oregon but really all because he had more sustained success. Like a dana. Texas is he. Is you know. Would that be something that might be out there. You'll have a guys that had success that made the tournament in the area that had been in the league grant mckesson at north texas. Paul mills is currently coaching oral roberts. He could be Also candidate oklahoma. We can get in the second or even like kyle. Keller stephen f. austin where they've been good they just have been eligible to make the tournament. He's had a really good run there as well so i would assume the the candidate pool could get somewhat deep but i do think it probably has to start with chris beard for a job. That is interesting because it's football first. Second third fourth and fifth university. But you get plenty of resources. That state is overrun with amazing talent. Four-star five-star every single season. And you're getting like you're getting a new arena. Gp in a couple of years here. It's just wired for you particularly when you consider this. We don't know what the next one two or three years will mean for kansas. Just because the stuff oklahoma's going to have a reset with its with its head coach there. If if you were to get beard than you lose in texas tech loses its coach. Obviously bruce weber. How much longer does he have. At case day iowa's also burger. My point is at texas and if you want to shape it to oklahoma you can't as well. The entry points here is very fertile ground. and it's just fascinating. We've got a lot of noise here. On the carousel in texas opening that is a true domino affecting kind of vacancy for college basketball. I would slightly disagree with you in this sense. You say that The first call probably has to be crispier. It definitely one hundred percent has to be crispier. There is nobody else you call until he tells you know three times and i don't know what what chris will do and i'm not sure what he should do like i said i don't tell the people what to do with their careers I put the top five things. I think would matter to me if i were crispier. Did they might not be the type fog. Top five things that actually matter to chris beard but i will say i've never got the sense that his plans to retire in texas tech. I've never got the sense that his his plan was to build texas tech into the gonzaga of texas. Or whatever my belief. And it's just a belief based on conversations. I've had but still i've never heard this straight from chris's mouth was that he wanted to do the texas job as awesome as he could do it until the big thing came calling for him whether that was indiana or on the road duke north carolina or down the road kansas or right now texas or even the nba. Because with chris beard you talked. Nba people pre pandemic back. When i was a master of ceremonies eighteen media day you know when they would go through practices regularly consistently here. You know who's really really really good like really good crispier like runs. Maybe the best practices in college basketball the attention to detail the teaching The the way he's able to communicate and connect with players multiple. Nba people came through telling me they were as impressed with him as they are impressed with anybody else. And so i've always thought in his future in the next five years is something like duke carolina canes texas indiana or nba. I've never i would bet i may be wrong. I if you follow this podcast. I make wrong beds all the time. That's how i end up shipping across the country. But i i would. I would have bet for a year now that in five years. He's not the head coach at texas tech. Not sure where he'll be but obviously with texas opening up. This is now a very real conversation and you know our friends at davis said on twitter like he had some advice for chris beard. Stay right where you are in that. Might that might be the right move. It really might. And then. I don't think there's any doubt he could build texas tech than something. That is sustainable. Only because he's terrific and the type of coach. You could do that. But there's no getting around the fact that it is a fact. The texas job is a way easier job for than texas tech. It's a better job than texas tech. And so if this is the place or the time where he decides it's time to actually make a move than i would understand that as well. I guess the bottom line at crispier has some incredible on his table right now or at least they'll soon be on his table and then he'll have to make some very hard decisions and i know how awkward an awful it would be to leave texas tech where you are loved loved and meyer to go to an in league in state rival like texas and it would be hard for him. I get it. I mean it would always people always talked about brad stevens going from butler to indiana. And that would have been hard. It would have been much easier to go butler. Nba back to indiana if he ever wanted to do that but like moving state is blue. I it can be. It's a hard thing. But here's what i would say if he did it. It'd be a hard thing for three days. And then he looked up and he'd be exactly where he probably always dreamed of being to begin with. And that's the head coach at the university of before i kind of rapids as a couple of quick nuggets on the carousel in general. Just if it's not beard in your opinion in just a second or third guy. I mentioned a couple i mean. It's i'm with you like if you get beard. That's the guy that you want to get but if it doesn't go that way anyone else that you think just would be worth a real interview that you think could have a chance there. I mean it. It's been a crazy couple hours since broke so i don't know if you've thought too much about it. We wanna get this emergency pot out to our listeners as soon as possible but anyone else that comes to mind maybe well i think you know at at a texas is a place where you can. Actually you can get somebody else's coach mid major rising star. I if you don't want to. I'm not saying you can go get anybody like j. right but i do think you can. I mean i. I would be interested in air muslim. And i'd wanna see if if he maybe wanted to come live in austin and beat the head coach. Of the longhorns. I certainly you know. Make that phone call a name. I saw get tossed around a little bit and this would probably be further down the list. But i don't think it's crazy if you've got further down the list. You know josh pastors pretty hot right now. You know he he is from houston he again. I wouldn't put him in the same crispier. Eric muscleman category. But i'd put him if. I was doing a list of ten people. Josh pastern probably be on there somewhere so porter. Merger is the hottest thing in the country. I don't know why wouldn't be at least a surface level candidate at texas. Y- here's my. Here's my my core belief on it is that they won't have to shop for too long. I mean this is still considered one of the great jobs in america and when you are taking over for somebody who didn't want it instantly tournament six years The bar is a little lower that maybe it was when shock took the job but which can be advantageous as well. I guess i'd say this. I think marquette got incredible. Hire done earlier today. And i think texas will will do the same thing. Real quick plenty annoys behind the scenes. Right now with coaching carousel stuff. In general So i'll just go boom boom boom real quick here Utah work i would. I understand they're kind of waiting to see if new york assist knicks. Assistant johnny bryan. Who's a utah. Wants to take the job. Alex jensen who is also an nba assistant. He turned it down. So we wait on that. And if not you know i can't. I can't help. But wonder if a craig smith at utah state or maybe a byu mark. Pope might be involved there. Craig smith i also think we should be high on the list for oklahoma which is now open so yes we have two big twelve jobs open. Long krueger retired on thursday. I reported that the the anticipated time line for this a year from now but it got bumped up and then krueger actually confirm. I reported i think in his press conference friday the reason why he did a year ahead of time his son got unlv job. He's gonna move back to vegas. He wants to watch. His son started head coaching career and then one of his former assistance died lou hill while he was head coach at Texas rio grande valley back in early february and that kind of sent a shock wave to kroger because he has always been a guy who was never going to be like. You got to drag me on the jim like he wants to enjoy Post coaching life there. So oklahoma opens. I would think that you know sitting assistant. Carlin hartman should get an interview. But against some of the similar guys like grant mccaslin at north texas. Who was an assistant. Baylor scott drew along with paul millsap. Paul mills beats arkansas in the sweet sixteen. I mean forget about it. I would think he's going to be wild. How drastically his his future could change. I was told not necessarily this person would be a leading candidate but getting an interview would certainly not be a surprise because it ties there kelvin. Sampson houston assistant for oklahoma. Keep an eye on that. Paul i think is gonna probably close by monday. I think they're trying trying to figure out what's What's going on with that weirdly enough. Gp three new york knicks assistance. Dwayne dwayne tv's the ada too. Paul he's trying to get kenny pain. And then you've got johnny bryant. And then mike woodson who's been necessity indiana. They're all what the next. I was told the knicks hyphen. Exactly made it easy on those guys not that they can't exactly get jobs but whatever processes need to go need to happen at the pro level The fact that three guys on the knicks staffer kind of involved in college jobs has been has been something. That's created a little bit of noise there. We wait on indiana as i mentioned before I actually both had collins this week. Tied indiana was more of a podium porter moser column and which i posited that if if he had the option between marquette in indiana marquette seem would seem to be the better fit so to speak. That's obviously off the table. We'll see if indians gonna charge hard or texas is gonna start by the way as last. I heard indiana has not made a pitch to crispier. I would think that ship has sailed at this point. And then something. That's been happening here. That lights indiana. I think with the right organization in contract could've may be lured crispier. Maybe not definitely but like he listened. There's no question. He would have lessened. Now that texas had open if he's leaving he he's not leaving for you. He's leaving for that. So i i think that's over with now i would agree with you on that and then two more quickies can can bail out of here one. There had been noise about this past couple days. Now it's kind of public out there. Cincinnati has announced that it is conducting an internal investigation Regarding john brand. He's only been there two years. I've been told that the relationship between john brennan and the a d is not a relationship. They they don't. It's not the who hired him. It's not good and they might be trying to fire him for cause because otherwise he's got a decent bio which by the way drops five hundred thousand dollars on april. First there i would think a change at cincinnati is likely to come keep an eye on that that is a pretty good job And there's some there's just some noise whether or not there might be one or two more jobs that could still open after this so emergency pot. Here we got tournament stuff to get over the next four days. So barring something absurd anything's possible of course but this is only going to continue to get noisier here. This month is insane and it just between the game stuff and all this other stuff. It's just turned into a hell of a carousel here. So just keep your eyes and ears. Espn because we still got plenty more to get to you in the coming days in week or so shots to devon downey's chester chester south carolina shells to tariam. 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Huawei Mate 30 to Launch Without Google Apps - DTH

Daily Tech Headlines

04:48 min | 1 year ago

Huawei Mate 30 to Launch Without Google Apps - DTH

"These are the daily tech headlines for thursday august twenty ninth two thousand nineteen. I'm tom merritt. A source tells reuters that wa- way plans to launch its mate thirty line of phones on september eighteenth in munich however google told reuters that under current u._s. trade rules the may thirty would not the able to include google apps and services like the google play store the u._s. Department of commerce has received more than one hundred thirty applications from companies to ease such restrictions against supplying weiwei but none of yet been approved google has not commented on whether it has applied while we can use the open source version of android which does not include google services us apple announced the independent repair provider program to let repair shops in the united states get authorized parts and tools training diagnostics and other resources from apple without having to become an apple authorized service provider shops can apply for free and must meet certain criteria like having apple certified it technicians and certification is also free backlog is i apple suspended the review of less than zero point two percent of siri voice recordings by contracting companies in order to improve the virtual assistant. This came as apple became one of a series of stories about this practice by all makers voice. Assistance apple has now announced it will reinstate state review of recordings later this autumn with a software update that update will leave audio recordings unavailable for review by default you as a user. We'll be able to opt in to let apple use your voice recordings to improve siri. Only if you want opting in does not mean they will be using recordings it will still there'll be a small percentage but if you don't opt in they say they won't use your recording at all apple also announced that from now on only apple employees will review such recordings things and they would delete ones determined to be advertently computer-generated transcripts of what you say will continue to be used to improve siri microsoft executive vice president harry shum told the world artificial intelligence conference in shanghai that the hollow lens to will go on sale in september microsoft has been taking pre orders for thirty five hundred dollars dollars apiece has larger field of view and improved iron hand tracking among other things microsoft also announced wednesday it supports the addition of its x. fat at five system to the lenox colonel the x. fat technical spec has been published on microsoft's docs microsoft launched x. fat back in two thousand six and it is used on almost all storage devices microsoft is not open sourcing x. fat but is working to include support for it in a future revision of the open invention network system clinic system definition russian facebook is rolling out tools announced it f eight earlier this year to active businesses on messenger new tools include a lead generation product has a messenger your template appointment booking and update to the standard messaging window to twenty four hours. 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142: How to Schedule Through Coronavirus w/ Chris Beard, Kevin Willard, Damon Stoudamire, & Wes Miller

Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

50:52 min | 10 months ago

142: How to Schedule Through Coronavirus w/ Chris Beard, Kevin Willard, Damon Stoudamire, & Wes Miller

"I welcome in another edition of good plenty podcast I'm your host, Jeff Goodman, and we got a great show for you today we have four. Head Division One coaches to talk about college basketball in the potential restart, and they all have different views and they'll from different levels for the most part and that's why got him together and we've Texas Tex Chris Beard. Seton Hall's Kevin. Willard Pacific's Damon Stoudamire and UNC Geez West West Miller. Talking about the restart. And again, their thoughts of kind of what can be done, and I'll even give you my idea which is a little bit off the wall But certainly, this is something that ink A lot of coaches are trying to figure out what's going to happen Kevin Willard you had a great idea certainly, that has picked up some steam among the coaching ranks and that was to start in November thanksgiving break when all the regular students leave campus and start playing then. So tell me a little bit about it what it's like in some of the feedback that you've gotten. You Know Jeff I think that's where it's GonNa be really hard and confusing for everybody because. You're not going to bring a team on campus that doesn't have the same testing protocols same. Everything that you're doing and I think that's going to be by conference I don't think. Anyone's going to have a say in that I'd love to still play or non conference games I. Think it's important for everybody but I think that's really I think that's where it starts to get confusing because. One's GonNa let some someone come on campus loan through an airport that's that hasn't tested their kids in a week or every four. We're doing every four days during the season. So I think that's where each school is going to have to really make their own decision I. Think it's GonNa be President and I think it's going to be conferences and make that call. Beard. Your is have been working out all week. So of your Kevin. What what's it been like so far? What? Mass, obviously, some schools every school's different from what I hear some schools it's one player, one ball other schools. It's maybe groups of three with the ball and a rebounder and. How how how strange has been? The first of all whole mass still it's actually improved my relationship with some of my players 'cause they can't understand what I'm saying. But it's been really GonNa Frustrating New, coaching who is but. Basically what we're don't love love it because we're trying to create our own bubble in practice in terms of. Eliminating any close context? So the the next one of our players that gets the coburn which is probable and it's OK, you just get through it. Trying to eliminate everyone else in our program having to be shut down. So obviously, the players that are playing basketball with each every day they're in that thing where they'll be close context, all of our coaches, our staff, our trainers way coaches. were, massed up we're socially distant. So again when we have our next is not going to shut us all down. It's just going to shut down the guys are actually playing. We got to NEAT perspective on this. It hit US early We have international players some guys that didn't go home after the season. So we actually had our I kinda just positives. Way, back in spring I think in May June. So we kind of went through this early. But I would say to be to be optimistic kind of a positive thing I can say is that things are already kind of changing when we had our first positive months ago it was a lot of unknowns. It was fourteen dade corn genes. It looked like it was almost impossible to visualize a football season basketball season. But I would say things are improving guys are able to get out of quarantines quicker. If we're starting to understand the close contact thing and being more careful. So my personal stance is I remain optimistic I. Think we're GonNa have college basketball because with my own eyes, I've seen days improve in our two or three months deal with this. West when I pulled coaches again, all four you are a little different, which is why brought you on to some degree not that I wanted a drop down fight here but I did want some discussion and you wanted which I figured most mid major guys want. Conference in non conference because let's face it for for UNC G non-conference important for a couple reasons one, you have a team that might be a a an at large team best case scenario number two My guess is you make some money for the program playing some of the big boys. Why did you is that the biggest reason why you chose both conference and non conference? Obviously, some bit selfish for sure I mean. You know no problem saying that I think number one like I'm no expert I. You know I'm no expert on what we should do with covert like everybody else I have opinions the the main thing I want play. I think we all can agree on that. We WanNA, play our kids want to play. So if there's one solution to this, that ensures that we play on for that I but selfishly, I would love to play both non operative conference. It gives us a chance as you said that the compete against. some of the teams like the national recognition made your good enough like we were two years ago to be on the bubble and have a chance to get into the tournaments and at large. So some of that selfish but I'd love to start in January middle January pushed everything back through. May You know now? Is that even possible logistically with TV and final four? Maybe not but. That was one of the options when you text your your questionnaire out that one makes the most sense to me because we have the most time as a country to get our heads around this to figure out how we can do it. Hopefully, it's better. There's better treatments vaccine on, but make the main thing I want play and I I think everybody basketball probably can agree with that. Damon your deal. I was surprised when you responded back and said of Pacific let's just play conference games. I mean obviously again, going back to what West said. You make a Lotta money. Playing some of those by games for the program and it gives kids an opportunity to play on some of the the big stages right I mean you're Arizona's a player. You felt that Why did you? Why did you say that? Why do you say just conference games. Well I felt I felt that way based on the options the they would say in at that time. Not think that that a coach beer alluded to things have shifted they starting to shift so at the time. When? I'm sitting there listening to our conference and I'm sitting listening to what they talking about I'm like. You know you possibly tell me if we go on the road in play game before we will take a test. When we come back from the road trip at one person is positive in everybody on everybody within the within the traveling party got a corn team. So you basically tell me if I got another two games. In the next ten days I got a four to it just didn't. Make any sense to me. So that's why my point was. What it was at bedtime from a non conference perspective, we need not conference games like we need. You know we need. Is is obviously need it. I think it was different maybe our say. Kevin possibly is the same as here. in California but are the way they are doing. It is different. I feel like the rest the rest of the country and a lot of different aspects right now we're almost back in phase one hypothetically speaking you know so. Badly as I'm watching a lot of the teams in a lot of decisions is being made around around here I don't I don't think from a basketball standpoint and I haven't talked to everybody. Around around the state, but I don't know how many people have have players on campus. and. So my thing is I'm all game, but however, we can get this going I mean Hale I'm I'm willing to get on the bus. You know NBA uncomfortable to make something work. You know what I mean I just WanNa I wanNA play basketball I WANNA. Give back to it and I think that's the biggest thing for me aller rewards but I will say this I will be interested You. Know in in schools they don't have a football team so we don't have a football team teams are conference. I Know Kevin the saying you know what I think you guys might be the same, but we don't have for balls are decisions going to be made? Based on us, having football in based around other things data going on. And I think those are things that I look forward to seeing what's going to happen was going to happen here because I play. I play so much stuff in in my head right you know and and I think that it would be great some some of some of the Games I plan my head I call it. Keep it in the in bright ideas files, but don't say nothing about. and. You know it'd just be interesting to see the non football schools how to handle things. So Key, speaking of keeping them the bright ideas in my head but actually do say something about it. I'll give you my my idea. And feel free to crush me on it. Any of you. All right. Here's my dear. Screw. Conference Games. All, right, let's do pots. Let's do thirty pods of twelve teams regionally. So nobody has to get on a plane the entire year K. Twelve teams that go in. The quarantine. Mass testing. So some of the schools from the smaller leaks can actually afford maybe the. Wove maybe even throw a few dollars into help with testing God forbid with all the money to make for the tournament, they should be doing that right? So you do that for fourteen days. Fourteen days you play what? Six Games in fourteen days safe when you say something like that, it's about the number that that you would say is about safe. CLEM IF. Somebody tests positive. Kick their asses out. You still have eleven teams you you still can play six games over those whatever it is twelve fourteen days you go home for a week. Do it again, different pot nobody gets on a flight and here's why I say that. For some of you guys. You're taking charter flights right you're not getting onto a commercial flight what about illegal like conference USA? FIU Fau they gotta go to Uab they gotta go to Youtube. They're really going to get off a plane like. They'RE GONNA get off a plane and the next day they're going to actually be able to play. Against a school in their league probably not the WACK. At the Southland, some of these leagues can't do it. So my take is one I try something different. Let's do these pods and I know again it's not gonNA. Happen I get it. But. Given automatic. Doing arche again been hanging out with like even smoking pointy things in quarantine man. Actually. Not. I actually have nodded and you have pods it's called conferences. I got an eleven team pod that I'm pretty comfortable with you do but conference USA doesn't the lack does. Everybody has got teams and everybody's got figure I. Mean I guess that's gotTa figure a way to make a work I mean I Dana said, you might have to jump on a bus. You know I mean like my idea of the Big East is the plate twenty, six games in the Big East West west coast scenes, bused everybody east coast teams, bus everybody. Then you charter one time in everyone crosses over once i. mean you know I think it's People going to people are going to have to get creative and people are going to have to kind of really Kinda. Keep, we're GONNA. Have to bus and. I don't think there's anything wrong with and we'd bus all the time. Those my I'm not in a bed. Knock. Creative idea 'cause like I'm on anything anything that gets US playing but. Just to refine it a little bit. Why not do something like that just wants for everybody gets non offers play. Or. Just A, you can only play conference games that are ah driving distance for the schools can agree on some kind of testing protocol leading into it, and maybe everybody gets six not concentrating. Why not figure out some way. Because we all can figure out how to play locally like I don't know maybe there's some outliers of some schools that don't have a lot of local competition but for the most part and it's like eighteen division, one schools in the state of North Carolina or something like could we not play a little non conference just so our first game, the year isn't are leaking. Yeah I mean I got Damon's list here for Pacific Grad Got USF CAL Stanford Pacific Saint. Mary's I got the whole bubble Utah San Jose state sacks, nate I'm good I'm. Like you know to what thing about it the one thing about it. The non, conference. I'm just saying this year. Because of the circumstances that we all are in. You know I think that I think that. If you just trying to get some games in a national. We gotta do I feel like. That's what we do. I. Think that we need to play conference though. You know I. I like our conference in anything about it is. I think I think with a think with our conference in order To keep elevating. We need conference games. We need good non conference games. So you got Gonzaga who I haven't seen a schedule but noted got a bitch, the non conference I can tell you he put a push into play every single now I conference I can tell you mark. Marcus. Pushing the players single non conference at Byu we have really good good A. Good Non Conference Games. You know I think that if we could if if or me what would help me what would help made alone? would be if I could play mores change. Around the area if that's GonNa piece the situation and I think it will we would be good without even going into a without even going into a bubble because Kevin said something to me we're about to be in a bubble anyway we're online here Pacific we're GonNa have online classes, bring athletes backward we we had a bubble we basically in a bubble. That's where we with the exception of some international stoops. How much I mean the the biggest difference listen we all look at the NBA Right now and Adam silver has done a great job but he's been able to write. I, mean these are pros that are in a bubble that they cannot leave for the most part. I don't know if they're sneaking girls in or not or whatever. But in college we we know we know these kids are not gonna be at that level You guys are all in college, Damon you were at Arizona. Is. Let me tell you something and I don't know how burst everybody is on on on this call. My roommate in college was Ben Davis. Been Avis. Oh Kademi Kansas. Any transfers hoods here on. Let me tell you some. No my team. I can't speak for the rest of the guys. You don't WanNa. You don't WanNa be Dave as your roommate. Guys are trying to get out the bubble man. Ben David Story. I'll give you Ben David story on that he he was actually sitting next to me in a class at Arizona and. He walks in. And I probably went to maybe fifty percent of my guys that was probably a high number and and I walk into the final and I had never seen before the class. He had never seen me before we probably combined to go ten times and he looks over at me sits next to me it looks over me like he's going to cheat me in the Class I. Look at him I said look the other way man don't don't look this way. That way that girl on the other side of you had a way better shot my man. On knows he was eligible. So it works. You always get a couple of guys WANNA go against the grain I'll let everybody else speeco net but that's just my opinion. Can we control these kids? I mean that that's You really can't right. I mean you say all you want and beard. Maybe, it's a positive I. I've read it down in Tuscaloosa and Lsu with football them saying, Hey, if they've already had it, we got a better shot of making it work when college football comes around but we can't you guys coaches can't control what they're GonNa do twenty, four seven like they can in the NBA, bobble. At first of all I'd like to say to Ben Davis he's not watching this. You Know I. Didn't Fan I. Have Been. Davis has a son or somebody in his family that plays his hard as he does, I'm not only talking trash about a bit. You want. He was a bad child man, he was a killer. Academic support here anybody. Doesn't look on Goodman's. Favorite to win we get to. Find your so. Jansher question that's exactly right. It's almost like I mean, we have a big time policy that we're executing here. We believe in respect than it. We're taking temperatures every day we walk into Brax facility were messed up for cleaning hands, but you know when the guys leave at four o'clock. Are Doing that at home? No they take dempster's of they were trying to be careful with trying to be safe but I think the. Disconnect between what you know a policy can be and what's really happening reality. Not, secret there. There's probably some disconnect. Can the Guinness Book of Records Give Two thousand twenty world's greatest delay of game even though sports had a break, your business didn't you have to keep moving And that makes hiring more important than ever indeed is here to help indeed, Dot com is the number one job site in the world because indeed get you the best people do fast unlike other sites indeed gives you full control and payment flexibility over your hiring. You only pay for what you need. 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How many of you had games with with an Ivy League school or Patriot League school or? Somebody that may not be playing their non conference schedule what what's that been like for any of you? I think we had one game affected with one of the League's or not play non conference. We just reached out made. Sure. One thing we've done is just add some communication with every team our schedule just checking in once a week just so there's no surprises. If you make a drastic change if we do, we'll let you know what I found personally is like the coaches on your everybody wants to play I. Mean we're all in this together I think they think it's going to bring our coaching community even closer. Because we all miss the game. So aleve, detect those communicating in really kind of wait to see what happens with football I said that from day wanted to stay consistent with that today. That's the first. Domino Sec big twelve football the conscious. What what really ends up happening there I think would be the first domino than basketball. We'll go from there might have been. Eject we we've we haven't had anybody drop schedule on, but we eat a lot of games when he five games and so normally have been really nervous about that as we get into June July. And everybody here knows like when you come off seasons where you've won twenty plus games, it's hard to schedule mid major level but it's been even more difficult when you add pan-demic. So we're we're kind of hoping. That you know as we figure out what we're GONNA DO IN NON conference we're GonNa have an opportunity to play some local game. So we're kind of hoping some of these local teams that have said they won't play us. We'll come back in place. But. Right now anybody wants game hall onset. Anybody's watching games in a bad way is, is Roy play a man come on? This should be a Gimme a listen. He's been gracious. He's played as three times up in here I. Think. We're GONNA have a chance a year from now they're schedule was full. We got into that conversation, but I can't give him Artemis taking care of you too many ways and I. Love what Roy's done period came out yesterday given six hundred grand to to some of the. Smaller sports and I've been told to us and I her this yesterday not only that he gives money every single year I think he gives us a one, hundred, fifty grand and nobody's known this to one smaller sport and he goes to. Games. You know whether it's that's sport or other sports So I. Thought that was pretty cool for that to come out incredible and I think what the most surprising thing is that it came out because I know he wouldn't want it to come out. But I would bet just he would never talk to anybody about it. I would bet. The amount of money he's giving back given back to North Carolina other charities is in the high seventy years of it would be astronomical if anybody ever get talk about it s just convict the guy that he is and some that you guys know too and I think would agree with that. Kevin what what's been the hardest part of the workout so far? We. We're not. We're not really doing anything Jeff I mean for me getting them back on campus was more mental health thing than anything else. You know it was. It was amazing to see how happy they were when they came came of Silia first time. It's been a really hard for months for America. But you know you have guys that were you're getting ready to play a big storm game. Also be to seed. Olsen Gets there. They were sent home three days later. I. Didn't get a chance to have a team meeting go off campus. So. For me I've looked at this whole time I badly get him back on campus for them. It's mental health they they've been they've been in a tough situation. There's a lot of things have gone on in this country that have not been good. They've been active in trying to be a voice of change they've been. told. Is Technically on house arrest the haven't been able to go out and do anything, and now for me, I just want them to have some sense of normalcy. With got back on campus on, they've been able to go in the gym be with their teammates and for me to see their expression in the difference from. a month ago on zoom call when you know I was really worried about some guys now seeing their body language their energy as just for me been. So Emotional That's all it's been for me is mental health now. A beard you're pulling back you're not going. It's hard with these. These poor kids in week one are you? It's a long year they don't need to be hearing your voice. Too Loud, it's early. You know you gotta you gotTa easy man here. Coaches we sit around Aqaba, everything all the what else. But certainly, the discussion you know sports does end up being a spring semester. What do you do now? I spent what goes just said that's exactly right. The biggest stage is being around the guys again it's been great. So we've got a lot of new players like we always do that's roster management lubbock every year. So just trying to get the guys off the good habits of the biggest thing is being around him can also managed so. If anything I think it's just I Love Basketball I don't think anybody love more than me but. This has been a real. You know self reflection man like how much I missed it motor big part you know everyday being around the guys this let's be great. Good back the gym I would echo do what? Roy Williams agreed to me. It doesn't surprise me when he does his finances. Good. We can't even get you to pick up a bar debt. You know what? I mean like. You say respect coach Williams is doing maybe next time. You know we're in Vegas you can step up for us. Listen I hooked that whole thing up I hooked it up. That didn't mean I had to reach you my wallet twice. What would happen at night of the disconnect man when the when the bill. Yet. They put US outside and you wind your, you've gone soft in. Beg It was a little hot for you. What did you do? You complain that we had to be inside I mean come on the old crispy never wanted done that a little rock, the D. to the deeper it come on I. Mean I still got some grinding me. You were complaining right when right when they put US outside. A lot of things government I'm not a whiner man. You know that that's not quite happen at night now who was wanting bordello always want him right away. Yeah. I just as a little soft gels nothing else red wine and I think you're pretty much right. Damon, your kids aren't back on campus yet and they're not going to be until school starts that the big dilemma I think a lot of people haven't Kevin referred to it. Earlier is a lot of these kids are safer on campus then in their home environments right now. So how do you as a former player at the highest level? Try to deal with all this because your hands are kind of tied a little bit in terms of what you can do testing housing all of that, Pacific. When his I started a talk to the kids a lot but hasn't went on. I started thinking back I always go back to one dollars a player like I don't Wanna I don't WanNa suffocate these dudes man you know what I mean like they got home. They were they were really good when they you know for. Second. When they fall off the wagon, they call me but I tried not suffocate him. You know what I mean like. So. You'll like I've done a good job assistance I know of kept up with them. And done a good job is crazy as it sounds what I try to do is. When I was in the NBA hours in two lockouts. So, when when as a player during the lockout you aren't allowed to talk. To management. So it was like always subliminal messages being sent here that that Mattis and the third. So there's about there's about three trainers. There's about three excuse me three shrimp coaches. Three actually three shrimp coaches that was with us in Portland, in ninety nine. When we went to the conference finals. And I've called them. The be like refresh my memory on what we will do. That time you know trying to figure out right 'cause you know both Chris. And Kevin alluded to. This is going to be one of things where man you can't drain these kids like. Being around kids is cool but. You can't start thinking. We gotta we gotTa do that they've gotTa do this guy I just don't know how much of a competitive advantage you get right now from doing certain things and those are the things that I'm telling myself to not connor. You know mess with my mind about what's really going on right now because it's going to be a process is so with that, then I've said to myself, it just might be school not everybody on this call remembers this see when I was in school you never was with the coaches in the summer anyway. You know you will come back you go home but a summer are play USA basketball. What was my case? I was lucky I played ords. netplay. USA. Basketball Three. Straight. Summers. So you would come back and so you was trying to show you a coaches that you got bit okay and so I think if the freshness of all of this, the every single coach is going to be okay we haven't seen these guys do anything for minute. Okay. Now maybe we can quit having these these building preconceptions of some of our players. May We see Sam for doing something? A. Little different. Maybe they are bringing something different to the party. But at the same time to a, you had your nine weeks with the Strip coach and then on October fifteen dollars the first you actually did some with the head coach. So I'm kind of trying to take it back to that discount look at it from that standpoint I've even told told my guys kind of stories in innocence. There's no shortage of action going on our exclusive partner bet online sports making its way back. You have seen NASCAR soccer leading the way that online has all the best lines best odds for all the upcoming matches this weekend and be a around the corner here. we got our scrimmages and exhibition games. We got futures out. Lakers still plus through forty leading the way clippers plus three hundred bucks plus three, twenty five, and then you've got kind of X. 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But once you start missing on your list and you go down to be and see that you've never seen in person and I know one I major program, you know a month or so ago got a commitment from a kid that they've never seen a person and I, think we're GONNA see a lot of that coming up a lot of mistakes are going to be made aren't they? Major level because I can't even say was going I I can't imagine Kevin. Chris. But maybe West is getting this to I. Tell You I got I got players recruit me. Nobody's news right now. China they trying to get you to take him and unlike you know I can speak for myself. I signed a couple dudes I signed a couple of dudes in the springtime I wouldn't a gat at had had been going all. Religious. Because what would happen is the schools now recruiting men they were taking Biz they would've took those visits. I just don't have the same thing to show. So indirectly, the zoom cause helped me. MINOSO. Is being is big. It's been good for that nature. I know West can attest to a certain extent, right? So you're recruitment guy. On Our Own this level I say, we got mid majors got major guys, and then we got low high majors when I say low high major, they might be in the second half of a big twelve may not be good enough to be in that first six are even in the biggies they might be good enough to be in lower happen a bit of the biggies but not good enough to be in the top half of the biggies right. But the moment you're recruiting them, and then they take out and we not getting. Everything else better. You know what? I'm saying, but let me keep recruiting the kids. Hey. You know we'll be there but that's Kinda how my deals being more. Yeah I can relate to some of that for sure name I think for us. The hardest part is like we're really specific specific about the type of people we recruit in the values that they have. And trying to figure that out without any in person interaction like having him on campus to spend time with them like evaluating them on person 'cause you can watch A. You know like you can watch video all you want whether it's something being strained right now or something in the past year but you can't see in video some of the stuff that you're looking for off the court right I mean you're just missing a lot of those things that we're looking for for UNC g players that you just can't tell. So I'm worried that. We're going to make mistakes we're trying not to, but that lots of people are and we thought the transfer ourselves bad. Now, you imagine what it could look like we can't ever get out and interact with people in person or they can't come to us. What's it like at a high major guess what's it like for you guys in terms of how much you watching these? Streaming deals are you leaving it more to your assistance? To to kind of evaluate right now. I think the big thing jeff is I think a lot of programs. US use the April. Evaluation period to kind of do their homework kind of catch up on things. I think the guys have Kinda gone out during the year and no the kids and seeing the kids. I think those guys have had. A good advantage because they kind of know their second and third kits. You know it's I feel bad for these high school kids because they. Agree Damon I have kids. Call my phone you know. Who wants to talk to a forty six year? Old Guy you don't WanNa Friday night at eight o'clock at night I, mean I know I don't WanNa talk to myself. My wife doesn't want to talk to the so. I got kids call in like I'm having conversations were usually like you know I'm trying to Pry pry a sentence out you. They're asking me what my favorite movie S. I don't know what my either go back to my list, what I liked but I feel bad that high school kids because you know they've missed out on a great opportunities. The summer circuit is big for them. You know they all look forward to that. So I think it's I think it's been adjustment and when the transfer rule goes into effect January. You know it's GonNa be. It's GonNa. Be Crazy. A big thing is I you know this these guys might not but I'm not a big technological technology guy. Know have any social it on twitter. Sometimes made sometimes not on air but A. So, this was all new to me like the code is the first time I had ever heard. Of Zoom. In a so it's actually been pretty cool though like the one thing you know when we're making phone calls recruiting I gotta do that anywhere. Not Savant parking lot. With my daughters, give me ten minutes Zones, you gotta gotTa be prepared. You know Zoom wherever I am I'm in the back of a dive bar playing pool in your did you gotTa talk to so and so that you're also. it'd be made a little organized for us, I've enjoyed it. I feel like I've been in some of the groups better than the traditional legs in the traditional way you you're working phone just. Working for that unofficial visit that official visit to get face to face. Now that both of us know the face face might not happen. I have found personally that our our conversations are more more quality. So I've enjoyed it I echo the bill on dvr not a big TV guy either bonus Netflix's all these kids talk about. So you know at first I was basing muscles led to like come up with a couple of shows. I did watch breaking bad. That is good stuff guys right there. I mean, if there's a better TV show breaking bad I wanNA know about it. So not I've enjoyed it obviously I missed the recruiting the camaraderie the AFFIL- feel really bad for the players to everybody associates July with recruiting but what about love of the game and what about the chance to go compete plane try to win a trophy so I feel bad for the guys every recruit I talk to I basically kind of say man bill bad for you like it's not about recruiting it's about competing playing and having fun and I really feel bad for those seniors man I I really do. What your guys level of optimism right now with that, there will actually be season. Mine is actually high they'll be answered tournament they'll be a final four I. don't know what type a season there's GonNa. Be 'cause like beard said early listen if there's a college football game. On October fifth I'm confident. They'll probably be college basketball game in November, if there's not a college football game on October fifth, we got no shot in hell playing in the first semester. What do you guys think about that? Well. I A little bit I. Mean I I just I find this whole thing a little. You know you can go into a target with two hundred people. That, you don't know that haven't been tested shopping. But we can't put strict protocols in that we're going to test our kids were our staff and we can't play in a arena with were the people. I think there's ways to do it i. just think you really gotta figure out the best way to do it I think I think it's possible I'm optimistic. I've been on a lot of Cova calls over the last two months and at first I could tell you April. I would've told you there's no chance we have season. But. Now, where we are and what we've talked about we're testing is I think what we've learned about it. I definitely think that it's possible and I just think people have to wrap their minds about the fact that if you can go into a target with two hundred people that haven't been tested in touch everything that they're touching, why can we test our kids? Our staff and play playing it playing arena with forty people I think as possible. I'm positive Jeff I think will. Hopefully, start figuring this out the the rest of the world seems to figured it out for the most part. Europe's figured it out. They're gonNA play basketball. Hope we catch up in America now it's everybody's in dive or only coach beer we might be trouble what maximum. Just skin, but I mean I I think we'll start figuring it out as a society. We some hopeful that and that you see the numbers down. Things will start happening again by Coke Louis F kids back on Kano like forget basketball like our universities all of them need kids on campus dysfunction into survive. So I'm hopeful that even though we may be handled this wells countries, we should have this horrible start figuring it out that can lead to basketball. Damon. Positive dozen. We need we need basketball but. Out here, we need to go to school to made at some point we get. You know it's You know how was telling somebody that the day ask you know God is good. God is good. You know, I get an extension but this is what we dealing with is like we're wearing the session. We need we need. To start happening and moving forward and I think we gotta find ways to do that and I'm just going to continue to stay optimistic about it and I'm like I'm like Kevin at first I was like man there's no way we have season because all you all you're is hearing the word. So what I said I I quit watching the news because I feel like nobody's educated on air they not all these facts and figures and it discourages you right so I was like isn't that not anyway but reruns so watch Netflix Amazon's APP or whatever that might be. I just stayed away from it as I stayed away from it. I became more positive than now as I see more start to happen major league baseball. NBA Mls earned things are starting to happen I'm like maybe we have a chance I'm just I'm keep my window open the just be just be positive in we're going with the situation. Yeah objectivity is gone out the window with the Media I. Think whether you're a trump supporter not wherever you stand on that. It's so hard because whatever you're watching these days it's all kind of skewed to that person in that network or whatever it's so hard to get. I JUST WANNA objective Info period just just give me give me the facts without all the other I mean that I grew up listen I I learned being in the Associated Press. So I've always learned to try to be objective in whatever I'm going to report You guys can all know that at some point I'd probably you know been not so great to all of you at some point in in very complimentary, and that's kind of how I do my job and I feel like to many people. Now in the media are slanted to kind of whatever they want and they're not giving objective news beard you confident it's going to happen. Consider I've personally. Where it was a few months ago where it is now I think we're all pulling for college football were all pulling for the NBA bowl to work in baseball I also have just Atlantic conference. I'm a positive I have a lot of confidence in doctors and scientists in We got a lot of time to me. goes basketball started next month. My answer might be different, but I still remain confident in all the people that are charged these things. I mean listen how many rats golf can Lillard play. Really. That was that was that was the other reason I was so happy my guys came back to campus because I was like an ATM machine all my friends I just had a band. Now at least I I got a great I'm back in my office I'll be Pale. White again in about. Three days from from being in the gym. So I'm looking forward to that. All right. I'm GONNA leave you on this we'll. We'll lighten it up on the final one, and then I'll let you guys go what's The coolest thing the best thing you guys have been able to do. Through all this helping that you wouldn't have got a chance to do otherwise for me. It's easy. It's it's watching my daughter. It's watching my daughter do these interviews a girl that wasn't even interested in sports a year ago is now reaching out to people not even with me she didn't interview with Adam Schefter earlier this week I had no idea. She was even going to do it I don't even think she knew what football was a year or so ago. So for me I don't want her to get into the business. But I love that she's doing it from a social standpoint and just watching her it's fun. It's fun man. It's just it's fun. Again I know I got two more years with her, and then she's gone to college and and who knows and she's our only. So that's been the best part for me. Yeah. I feel. You know. Get eat dinner having family dinner. In the summertime. It's never happened. I'm never home so to. Be Home, and be with the kids you know is I don't think it's great for them having been around but for me to be around and just to be around my family as much I was. Able to do. It was it was it was a blessing bescot. Made for me has been spending time with my son. You know he's eighteen years old so. Crazy 'cause you. I've been my whole life I think to get the world a lot of his add to get. You've had to be selfish Kinda. Is Crazy as the sound. And I never you know one of the things that college basketball did for me when I left the NBA and I was at the mid would Memphis Grizzlies for two years as an assistant. But getting a college noted did for me like when I got into it wasn't maybe realized I had start putting more emphasis on my own Tucson's because spending more time with other kids been spending time with my own damn kids. So I really get to know by son during this time and I found out. Is. Do. Me Man and week but his like crazy because he just like meat like always knew everybody just you know not in a malicious way man he you know but. It's been really good. Just you know I'm finding myself and having a chance to slow down I said to myself I'd say counting. Coun- you know my leisure, my last year, the high school when I was going out onto summer circuit doing the same thing man this is the first time I've actually had had a had a stop sign on my life like this since I was like Sixteen fifteen sixteen years old and you know weird. But at the same time I'm refreshed and I think that I'm ready to go. Yet. I think. What you just said there Damon is for me. I don't have kids everybody up talk to echoes that as family has kids, but I've been alone and so it's like the first time that I remember my life that I've had this much time for self reflection. You know and like it's like I got. I got the job here at twenty eight years old, which was like an incredible blessing, but you've never hit. Like, stop what ever was like you're always going to the next thing INSA have some time to really look back and reflect and try to learn that's been incredible and then the second thing for me is like. Man Getting back in the gym this week. You just remember what you love so much about this and how much you missed it. And like that has been incredible to like have what you love and love to do out like I love. What coach Beers said like nobody basketball more than you. said the same thing about myself and to have that taken away for four months man it gives you a greater appreciation for when you get back even if you got to wear a face mask and a shield all. Jump that we have to do to make it happen. So you know there's always a silver lining in everything into spend some of that me as well. Same, time stuff All the stuff. You guys said, I'm right there with you. My oldest daughter lives in New York City. She's a software Columbia. In she's pretty much on the full track, you know. You don't make Columbia by coming back to Lubbock every week getting on a hanging out. So she when she went to college, she went to college so. When New York City Guy, shutdown she came back. So I'd have to spend much more time with her than normal. On the other two daughters L. Margot's exude rather top of this don't look back on it one day. What was really cool though is. When I hit that stirred crazy moment which we all did man like dude I gotta get out of the House basically Plan to. Attend Day kind of vacation which I I've never taken more than two or Three Day vacation vacation started coaching ten days while while we want to get on airplanes and all that stuff. So we we went old school man we got in the car and we. Just. Drove all over Texas which which I love. It's what I'm used to like this I've been blessed. Love coach at this level Betas been more the blessing for my family but. I'm not really a drought Glenn. Guy. I'm really not I liked be in my car like have my clothes in the back in I liked to build a you know checking hotel point right next to it owning bring stuff in the room go back and forth. So we took this ten day like old school. Awesome. Kind of vacation lived out of the car and what have you just brought me back to the roots back to Fort Sky Seminal, mcmurray and all these days. So I was blessed that trip really grounded me and it's something I'll never forget. I Still WanNa know how you have a daughter got into Columbia. That's that's a pie cast unto itself. No. Listen I really appreciate you guys doing this I know it's a Friday afternoon. I know you got better things to do with your time I appreciate it. You know what I think of all you guys. I'm with Ya. Let's just get college hoops back and any form possible love all the kinds of suggestions in your thoughts and hopefully we'll see each other soon. All right. Netted. aided. And thanks again.

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Hour 1

"Hot dogs Chuck dogs. Mike wiser guy selling hot dogs in here. I'll get tickets at a game. I wanna see a hassle, but I missed that stadium atmosphere. So I brought the stadium atmosphere to work Michael vivid seats, make buying tickets quick and easy. Find a seat you one. And just a few clicks nice. I just got tickets to tonight's game ice cream, get your ice cream. You guys can all go home. Now, we're good here. Everybody. It's morning McGee on ESPN radio that you spent happen southeastern conference network were presented as always about progressive insurance, all guests every single one of them appear on the shell Pennzoil performance line are Emlyn by tweet us one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed at ESPN McGee. That's me at Morris myth ESPN. That's guy. That's being held prisoner of. We'll ask him about that. And just a second and eight seven to nine three seven seven six eight say ESPN, and I'm watching I'm watching the magic computer screen here. This telling me that. Dame Fischbach is going to join us to talk about Auburn being in the final four. What's still, quite frankly can't can't get used to by the way, you all might not know this can believe it Clemson university was modeled after Auburn university. It was the way the campus the campus design, the mascot, the colors and everything. And that's where Marty Smith is right now, not at all your at the at the other one. Clemson. How're you doing? But I am I'm fantastic. Good morning. We ate at smoking pig last night and anybody who's ever been to Clemson understands that that is a institution of excellent, pork. And we really enjoyed that. I went to dinner with herbstreet and Galloway and Chris Carter with whom I am on the game broadcast today for the Clemson football spring game. And as I said to the television audience just a few moments ago easily could have gone over to memorial stadium and set up this shot for the mardi McGee program on. The southeastern conference network. However, it's dark out there where the sun starting to peek through the clouds, right? But this little light we have that that lights us up for TV. I don't know that it really would have done the job in the pitch black dark. So I chose to stay in my hotel room and become fee, but unfortunately, for the TV viewers, it looks like I'm a an extra who's been captured and taken hostage from the back to the future episode where they stole the plutonium in the mall parking lot. How they peel it out in that vein that that that colts Waggin van in the parking lot that blue Tony issue. That's how I feel this morning. Yeah. Yeah. So I am you're in a hotel room doing live television. And this is the setup that they send us in a package. So this is what I used they tone for those that were watching the show couple months ago when I was in Daytona. This is what I had at the racetrack. I thought as late as like the night before I was going to be also doing it from my hotel room. Like right there. What always think about an ice thing about this? When I just did the radio show from the hotel rooms is it will so Borno saw the wall doing like, you see thinking, why was that tear hire somebody talking and he's gonna turn on the television. And be like, oh, wait, there's that's that's the guy that store. I feel terrible. Because and I was trying to meet my voice some, but it's really futile. I mean, we're getting ready to talk for the next two hours and think that it's basically a foregone conclusion that he's going to be really ticked off at me over here. This wall behind me here in roughly team on his thirty two seconds. So do do people next door Tamari if you can hear them right now. And you are next door come on over do you? Remember, we did the radio show over and have a call. We did the radio show a might've been look one of our earliest radio shows from the national championship game from the cost of all know, comfortable enough now shows out in Arizona, and I was in my room with my radio box and you're in your room with your radio box. And I believe that housekeeping trying to get into both of our room. Like during the show like I remember scaping right in the middle of show. They were beating on my door. I'm on the radio we were interviewing like a coach the Kirk farance. That's right. Yep. Hausky is very very sad that we are. So we are such losers that we remember every specific detail about a radio program that we did together five years ago, housekeeping, just gonna keep doing Tommy boy all over. So you're Clemson joke this truth. The Clemson was was essentially founded by the guy that used to be the president at Auburn and started football team and picked out the colors and mascot and the whole deal. He did it at Auburn d did it Clemson. But Auburn, and we'll be joined later about Daming fish back to talk about Auburn being in the final four final for today's the day. And I joked on Twitter yes to put like a fake Twitter poll, and I said who will win the national championship. And I put Auburn up there. And I'll put Virginia up there. Who's in the final four one second time ever and put Texas Tech up there, which we'll talk about their head coach later and his love of Travis trip. That is love. Those returned by Travis trip. And then of course, Michigan state. It's a it's a crazy looking final four, and how do we feel going in because it's there's a lot of storylines a kinda dig it. The fact it's not just for classic basketball role teams. Well, we dig it because we are storytellers dig it because we enjoy a great story. And I I mean, I've had I had Duke last twelve games or something. So there's only so many more stories that you can tell about them Kentucky is there every single year. So there's only so many stories that you that haven't been told about them. But we're just learning about Texas Tech UVA's a great story because you know, we've talked ad nauseam about what happened to them against you in be seed last season. And now they avenged that with a trip to the final four, and that's awesome. I think Tony Bennett his such a gracious, man. I think his priority system is wonderful. It's a lot like Davos, you know, see what what Davos done down here at Clemson with football program at how that has permeated the entire institution. I feel very similarly about Tony Bennett's priority scale and how he is a servant leader of his young men. And I see that permeate. Getting the entire UVA institution. Think Tom Izzo is the man, and I think it's so cool to see him get back to the final four. And there's there's this. There's a there's a theme here. It is experience late in teams are there. And look Bruce Pearl is a walking sound by a felt so bad last week. I got home from the east regional what day was that Monday. I think I got home from the east regional and took Laney to breakfast, and we're breakfast, and we're trying to have a conversation together and were sitting at our favorite little place up near where we live, and I'm having some coffee and enjoying it and Bruce Pearl comes on get up. And it was all of a sudden lane was like the peanuts teacher. I can't turn away for more. I was reading I was actively reading the closed captioning because he is. So his passion his delivery his honesty is just for me. It's refreshing. And it's awesome to see this for Auburn. University. I think it's fantastic. They've never done it before. And I think he's so good for college basketball. There's so many great storylines. I think it's tremendous you hear you hear Laney talking to Sinn. Was that the peanuts teacher? So fall of you out there if you've been on the road for work, and you come home and you're eating breakfast with your wife after you haven't seen her in like, six months. You don't do what Martin do and don't read Bruce Pearl's closed captioning on the television and the diner while you and your wife out, and she sounds like this. Was good. We're talking about the final four. We're talking about these personalities these teams that aren't normally there and a guy that I wanna talk about is Chris beard who's the head basketball coach at Texas Tech in his press conference yesterday. American treasure he talked about sex in the city pop tarts ostriches, his man crush on Tommaso, and he's communicated with me about his love for Travis trip, which is something that we share. And we're gonna talk about that coming up. It's Marty McGee on ESPN radio that use PIN app and the S E C network. Sometimes Saturday morning comes quicker than expected. No, I wrote down them. But I do believe that twelve times two is twenty more from boys. Mardian McGee coming up. Geico presents yet another voicemail from your roommate? Doubt the kitchen turns out when there's a grease fire. You're not supposed to throw water on it wouldn't own right anyways. The fire department is here, and it's totally cool can call back when you get a chance. The Geico insurance agency could help keep your personal property protected. Like if danger is your roommates middle name. Visit Geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renter's insurance. Travis. Treat loves him. Some Texas Tech basketball and al-tv were showing I'll read these tweets. This is what he tweeted he said congratulations to coach beard TT. You at Texas Tech basketball an oppressive win over buffalo hashtag Rekkem has tag March madness. And in the continued they kept winning. He says while Texas Tech destroy Michigan. I sixty three or four two four congratulations Texas Tech coach beard NIA tire red Ryder nation. My boy Travis trip loves him some Chris beard, Texas Tech. And this is what this give you little taste of Chris beard right here. This is this is what some of what he had to say this week lead in the foul. Four hadn't been easy. We've make sacrifices every year team players are program before we start official practice. We there's guys on our team that have given up net flicks after nine pm skies in our team. They're giving up social media. There's guys given up fried food there skies. It basically have to sacrifice something in our culture. If you say, you're going to do it you'd better do it. Or you're about to get roasted so many this year. It's it's no beard. It's no desserts. No candy. So I haven't had any ice cream candy Kate beer since I practice. You know, a couple of things did, you know, pop tart is not a dessert. That's a breakfast. A lot of pop tarts man since October. So hey, more this this, dude. I mean, he he went to Texas and Abilene Christian. He Borna Marietta, Georgia. He's he's our age mid forties. So he's an assistant coach at Texas. Then he coached it in carnet word Abilene, Christian North, Texas, fort, Scott community, college seminal state junior college. He was an associate head coach underneath Bob. Knight at Texas Tech for ten years, then he coached the South Carolina warriors, a semi pro team in Myrtle Beach, mcmurry college, Angelo, state Little Rock and then three years ago. Got the head coaching job at Texas Tech Nuys in the final four that's a dude right there. I love him. Look, man. That's that's that's a grind. He what did you say? The South Carolina warriors Saudi wars looking it up. So is that like the second at the YMCA team that hunter info plays? The South Carolina warriors. For a semi semi professional basketball team in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina and an expansion franchise in the American basketball sociation like the new I guess, there's a new they play at the Carolina forest recreation center. There. He also so they run into three we've down there, South Carolina. Lee he was coaching team into the final four in two thousand twelve coach in the south are warriors. Adore that story that is the American dream. That is the ultimate grind that is having on yielding devotion to the game. Yeah. In doing it because you love the game. And also because you're certify ably insane about the game. And then here you are leading a group of young men to the grandest stage. In college basketball. And I love to hear him say, I love his love his normal. See in that press cough, like by the way, coach. Pop tarts are a desert. I will debate him on this to the end of time anything that has sprinkles on top of it is a desert ugly. What about a doughnut then? Don't desert desert. Yeah. Breakfast to doughnut. The. You know, the utility infielder of confectionary, delight. I don't I don't think you have to. It's not an either or Travis you make you sound like you could only do one or the other like, you can only have you only have a doughnut or product hor for breakfast or only have for dessert like you can do both right. I agree, but Marney said had sprinkles on and that's why it's a desert. Well, look, it can be a breakfast too. I'm just saying it's a universal sweet win the sugar content is greater than ninety three percent to them of the overall entity that constitutes dessert. Missile. Bucket and knock Nelson pop tarts. So. We're talking about sports because crispier after my neighbor crispier bar up pop tarts. So so are you will go to pop tart allows a kid? It was grape. Now, it's like Brown sugar, cinnamon. When's the last time a pop tart in a very very very long time. We did have some in the house because my kids I remember my daughter Mia asking mama for if she could have a pop tart. I don't know what they were in there for a don't know if someone brought them during a sleep over. I don't know how they wound up infiltrating my property, but they were there for a time. Always remember when I was a kid I loved they were strawberry innards in they had icing on the top. And then they had the sprinkles on top of the ice. And I actually liked them better straight out of the package than I did out of the microwave or hot. I'm with you. Now, the pile the pop tarts that made it into your house where they actual pop tarts or were they like some sort of organic heart deal. They were legit pop tarts. Yeah, they were legit pop tarts late in with simple sugar and the devils desert. Now one thing that when I was younger, I'll tell you what I did sign you this this is serious. All right. So my mama used to go down the food line and back in the day crispy cream had and they may still do this back in the day. Crispy cream would put. Shoot. They're not drumsticks. They had a name. They were doughnuts in like a rectangular form that were about five inches or six inches long. And they came in like, a pack of eight or twelve or something like that being rectangle like gold buoy, and like sugar coated gold Bouillon laid out and I would wake up in the morning, and I would tell six of those things in the microwave nukem for twenty seconds. Get eight ounces of meal and go through that like a swarm locusts man before school has gotta look those hashtag powder sugar. Go Bouillon is Bouillon as you say. It is Bo ain't it. But bully Leon Bouillon Bouillon. How how do you say? Okay. Hey, by the way, the NBA is. Is that is wrong. It is not on. Powdered sugar Bouillon buoy. As on ESPN radio. Tune in tomorrow is in the thunder. Visit a timber wolves presented by indeed coverage begins at three eastern almost ESPN radio stations. Sources tell me that the winter that gave them we will be rewarded with a box full of powdered sugar. Gold bouillon. I'll tell there's a humongous hair humongous hair tarts. Go should bring Christie Leona talk about mardi McGee. Plus the new sports streaming service powered by ESPN provides fans exclusive access to live events and original programming for only four ninety nine a month. Download the ESPN app or visit ESPN dot com today. Mike what you get that stadium seat? Finding game tickets is hard trae. But being there is so much better than not being there so replaced my regular seat with the stadium seat to try and recreate that stadium atmosphere. I appreciate the effort, but I got a better idea use vivid seats to find tickets to the game. They make finding the seats that you want quick and easy. Sounds like getting tickets at vivid seats would have been the easier option. It always is. So we're talking about. Charts? This. Hey, Shelley at s pistol dot com. Longtime fan of the show hit us up Dunkin sticks Marty through a picture of MRs MRs fresh lease Dunkin donuts sticks. And also little Debbie doughnut, sticks with believe that's Marcos Ambrose on the box. Former driver of the of the abbey Sam. That is Marcus Ambrose. I'm telling you, man, it is they were awesome. And I would I would put six or eight of them on a plate, and I knew him for twenty twenty five seconds. And I'd get that big old glass of milk. And then if you got really aggressive, you would normally you wouldn't eat them with fort because I was in the Andhra fall. But I wouldn't eat them with a fork. But some days I would get really aggressive and cut them with a four, and then dunk it in the milk and then go for the bite. Hey, how many is a delicacy? Would you eat that is a hill? Billy delicacy. How many would you eat like you said like six six or eight of them at once? Yeah. I think they came in a think they I think the crispy cream ones came in boxes of ten or something and in order to be kind and leave my sister, and my parents one. I'd only go thirty six or eight of them. So there was over rations for them. You was hopeful of me was there any partially hydrogenated anything in any of those for have some ceramic Flavin. Maybe I don't know something. Thing that we ate in our youth had any hydrogenated oil in it. I mean. Hey, if we're talking we're talking about baked goods, which means we need to bring in our friend from for sports on ESPN radio Christine. Lisa lisa. You there guys? So when you when you bake up when you are busy in the kitchen at home like getting your baked goods together to bring tease fan radio, which is tradition for years and years ESPN, you put any parsley how Rajin aided anything in there. I think crisco counts. Right. Yeah. Sometimes. Okay. Crisco mardi. Did your mom have the Cana crisco the constant can of crisco that just sat on the shelf over the not only did mama have the industrial size from Sam's Club bat of crisco. She also re purposed the Lord. Other hundred percent moments of unbelievably delectable, southern cooking and would use it again. And again, and again, we had we had like a plastic jug full of this congealed fat. That she would reuse American L that Christine own ask you this. Because if you know this morning, our southern. I do and you're not and and that's cool. We're totally cool with that. But I when I lived in Connecticut, and befriended you there were a lot of things that I realized I grew up with the northeast and northeasterners had that I didn't have did you your family have a big can of LARs. In the kitchen that stayed there. All the time. I believe my grandmother, my grandmother's called it oleo. But I kind of the same thing. Oh, there's a word for it. There you go. Wow. Is it the same thing? I'm not sure we could. Charles. I need you to research, so so Christine, so what's the what's the bu-? Obviously the foul for tonight. But with what else we talking about in the world sports? Well, wrestle Westbrook has clinched. Triple average double for third straight season. Only Oscar Robertson had a feet like that. He's the only other player to do that. Longo it for the cycle in his first four at bats. But the twins loss to the Phillies. Your Red Sox? Ryan, not good. No, not good. This is this is how I roll. Now, though there they win the World Series. And then they're awful, and then they win the World Series again. And then they're awfully that is true. They have that cycle. It's just a slow burn up there and being town die slow burn to get the weather trying to go. Had enough though. I think with the titles. Yeah. And it's funny too. Because I Christine rigs when I lived in New England people were shocked at group Red Sox fan in the Carolinas. But my first T-ball team when I was five years old in Shelby, North Carolina. They land all the kids up, and there was a big box of caps, and it was just random you could have very easily been a Seattle. Mariners fan the hat. I got was the Boston Red Sox and in Jim rice was from Anderson, South Carolina, right? Where Marty is right now just down the road from Shelby, and we used to read about them in the paper everyday. So that's where that's why can't Red Sox fan. And and and we lost the series Cincinnati that year, I should have just bailed right there, and I didn't do it. And but it's worked out my daughter, by the way, Christine my daughter, who's fourteen she thinks the Red Sox all the time. That's just the world. She was born the week after the four series. So she just she thinks is just how it is. It does seem like that. Yes. Yeah. Same with the patriots. Yeah. Well, see. Necessary. I'll have no feeling I never had any things for the patriots. Just whatever I was. But yeah. So there. Yeah. What do we do? We make things more. I did. I made snowball cookies and ice stuff them with brownies. You you stuff. The snowball to the cookie with brownies and a big fan of putting something in a cookie and today, I put brownies like snowballs are like Mexican wedding cakes retelling, wedding, cakes Russian tea cakes. They got a lot of different names. But there's a brownie inside. An oleo, right. Yeah. That was what my grandmothers called crisco. Okay. Travis. Did you do any research on that? Interestingly enough there is only oh inside of an Oreo. Because that's what's the energies of an Oriole is crisco. Sweden crisco Travis effort analysis. Do we do any oleo research, or you know, we're working on it? Okay. Oleo research in Charlotte. Okay. Tv producer brands brands would. Did you find out crew oleo margarine butter substitute? And I I actually know because I'm a big crossword puzzle guy, and it's a common crossword clue like butter substitute. Four letter words, so get your lot of owls. Wow. Flowed across creators. Yeah. Wow. How do you spell Elliott O L E? Oh, okay. That's it. All right. Very useful for golf. I if I was in the scripts national spelling bee out have been out. Being. I don't do puzzles. Okay. That begs the question what word everybody has this word when they were in the spelling bee in sixth or seventh grade hearing the word that put them out haunts them for the remainder of time. What is your word Christine Lisi? I can't remember actually, I remember everything I cannot traumatized. I think it was only. Oh, and you and you it was it was lard. That's what it was Cruces. Like, I do Lord. No, not a chance that we will squirrel at third grade, spelling bee Gaza versus boys versus girls, and I lost in the finals to. Girl. And the war was squirrel thick. I went with one hour two. I'm not explain my lifelong disdain for rats with boas, which are all we squirrels does just had some psychotherapy. We just drilled down into the reason why you have such venomous hatred. Squirrels and rodents are squirrels rodents. I think they're rodents. Yeah. I should put a K varmints varmints. I should put a can of arm. It's a can of poison oleo out and see if the squirrels eat that. I'm sorry net pitas, pitas, already ofon pitas are. Christine. Thank you. What we just did there. I'm glad you're here for oh. Next week. We have to scan the picture Christine found a picture of me too at how the Christmas party together twenty years ago, and we need to put that on the show because like I've eaten a lot of arts and a little bigger that I will. Thank you, Christine, guys. All right. So don't go. Put put a poll up on Twitter best manufactured baked goods breakfast item. Pop tarts, toaster. Strudel doughnut sticks was to be the fourth one. What's the side during the break? What was it? Pop tarts doughnut sticks. What else toaster strudel, which will? All right. So let's think about that during the break cookie, crystal. I mean, cookie Chris Huntington's cinema member cookie. Chris. Cookie. Crisp was just amazing chocolate. Chip cookies. Bo only use fear radio SEC network. A that use Pnn more to just keep going. We'll just Marty and McGee. Not your typical radiant thing about the original wiffle bat we put tape on that's legal at well. Who said anything? Jobs county was leaving. No, worry more Marty. Mcgee next week. We spent the last segment. Basically spent twenty minutes on national radio, it's all about Lord. And the reason is because our new hero Chris beard, head basketball coach at Texas Tech university who just three or four years ago was coaching the South Carolina warriors who played their games at the Myrtle Beach Komori center, the little river convention center and the Carolina forest recreation center. They moved around a lot. And now he is coaching in the final four the road game. They went down to soccer steam. Have the soccer St. free will Baptist church play the couple of games, Jim. When they were playing the Darlington dragonflies over there. This one of the great. One of the great Wikipedia pages of all time. The South Carolina warriors their colors were blue purple black and gray at four colors. They cheerleaders were the warrior girls their dance team with the later, lady warriors dance team and their mascot was wags. The warrior dog. The do a warrior dog wags do those coach. And that team is on is in the final four right now. He was God bless America. Crispier twenty nine and two as the head coach of the semi pro. South Carolina words, Myrtle Beach and won a division title. Jarc is not a dessert breakfast. Clearly, he was coaching. Clearly, he was better more talented than his his physician at that moment might warrant. So we try to have him on the show and the SID at Texas Tech. We are going back and forth all week. The problem is coach beard is also not a morning he plus by the way to coach the biggest game of his life tonight. But yeah, they lost two in the finals the South Carolina warriors loss to the Jacksonville giants. And that's Jacksonville North Carolina, by the way. That's that's we're Campbell. Is it's not. That's not Jacksonville. Great in Florida to South Carolina where I wonder if there's like and their their mascot looks like a. T shirts. It looks like almost like the USC Trojan, but a much more serious. So yeah, we need to fire headband. I'm mad. I didn't. They were playing those games. Warriors could ahead on down there from the pavilion. But but that's why we're talking about bake manufactured baked good breakfast items because Chris beard, China's what he'd have say about pop tarts pop tart is not a dessert. That's a breakfast. It is. I mean, it could be both. And he gave up beer, I think it's pretty Ursel. So so best for shake that he gave up beer and snacks. You could lose a lot of weight given up beer and snacks, man. I lot of weight. Probably do I should probably do that. But yes, so in honor him, I'm gonna put a question of poll question of Twitter best manufactured baked goods breakfast item. I got pop tarts toaster. Strudel doughnut sticks. I need a fourth item. Similar rules, cookie crisp the syrup, but Syra would just put cereal because you could be cookie. Crispy, crunchy could be further pebbles. But I think you should go with the orange. I think you should go with the Pillsbury orange rolls. Are you drunk those things? No one knows those. You're listening. Good, man. You see your? You are. The pop the cinnamon rolls that you pop out of the tube. But these this has orange pop the towels orange put it on the baking sheet for fifteen minutes, you pull it out. And you lather it up with that orange goo, and you sail off into a blissful day. Those things are unbelievable, man. Holy smokes, mama. We used we used to stay see NAMA sister. Now used to wake up to those things once a month or something, and it was Christmas time those anybody who's had Travis is obviously never had them. If he thinks I'm drunk because I'm mentioning the orange cake role. Whatever that thing is called the Pillsbury. Got it used to poke in the commercial how how do you go again? I would if I on the list would if I punt, and I just say like pills, buried cinnamon rolls. If you go there original good because those are amazing, but the orange get outta here. Marty literally never heard anyone say that the orange is the greatest thing ever luck. David make it anymore. Do the maybe maybe my mom used that Alier whatever Christine was talking about it lathered up with some extra juice. I don't know the ones my mom made were absolutely an institution a oly is it was. Whatever it was what was it? Call one today. Mayonnaise mayonnaise. That's what it was man as slapped a little man as on orange, cinnamon. Roll that'll hit the spot that a sell you off into your day. Hey, Travis either one of these callers won't talk about breakfast items. They won't they both went breakfast Jonas and Tennessee Jonas. What's going on? Okay. All right. Even know where to start the word out of sixth grade was kindergarten because that's K ID. 'cause what are what who's in kindergarten kids? That I have all my giant grandmother from Baton Rouge is only oh because he thought it was an acceptable replacement for butter. I mean large enough to block out on the light in the room when she entered and also by the way to lose weight who outside the south. Cottage cheese and Kane peaches as their diet food. That's a good question. Are you gonna find those on a menu of a restaurant? You are not you might as well put obstacles and your wars item on the breakfast thing. Ryan if you're going to go there. In the winter Lardy went listen, I will tell you. Dessert is in the eye of the beholder dessert is we've bowl treat that cleanses the palate after you've wolf down some pulled barbecue. So if you're telling me that a pop tart, and or a doughnut is not a sugary delightful moment, then I will disagree with you. It dessert is what you want it to be some people eat yogurt for dessert. I don't know what's wrong with them. But anyway, it's just whatever you want it to just want to thank Jonas for calling in his giant grim. Forgot about that excellence. The new ESPN app now with ESPN, plus baseball, hockey soccer, college football, you want more. I hope so because with plus you get new films shows docks the new ESPN app. Download now and sign up free SPN plus today.

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Sweet 16 and Elite 8 Betting Picks + Eric Musselman rips Todd Fuhrman over March Madness Prediction

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Sweet 16 and Elite 8 Betting Picks + Eric Musselman rips Todd Fuhrman over March Madness Prediction

"Along that thou board. We ever bet you twenty bucks. I can get. You can't with forty year only fifteen grand how they pay debts men his manny. It's the board podcast really really like the end. I could still pick winners can still make money for all kinds of people back home and why mess up a good thing airs pain insider and todd into the bed the board podcast powered by fan duel. Sportsbook sweet sixteen edition. I'm your host todd firm and joined as always by my esteemed colleague and co host. The one the only pain insider which the good word i hear. It's been honoring week your way every now and again pain. You're honest in your assessment and you may or may not get under the skin of particular fan base. He comes with the territory. What do you want from me. So what happened. Regan dive right into it. I mean i can't be captain game. The handicap appear to be incorrect. Given the final score said one particular head coach was gonna be outclassed by his counterpart on the opposing side lines. A fan base took umbrage with it and arkansas fans have made me the focal point of many 'em over the last seventy two hours to which i do have to applaud their creativity because i've been photo shopped into a variety of scenes right. Never quite thought. I'd see myself on. You're weighing carried on his shoulders co tomasz. He's taking me don't arizona diamondbacks game. There was one. Where was photoshop with my head. On a weasel there was one. Or i don't even know the movie i was photoshopped into getting my ass kicked outside of a bar. I would have given them style points if it was patrick. Swayze beat me up. And roadhouse but you know it is what it is the reality of it is. I think fans take it personally as we know especially in college. Sports more shown pros because how many times have we gone out there and rip dan. Quinn rip. mike. Tomlin the insert head. Coach's name here. But i guess when you go after someone in the family for a fan base that hadn't been to a sweet sixteen since the mid nineties. They were looking for fighting. I guess i gave it to him. I see that now. Let me just ask you this. Because we're typically not in the hot take category. I candidly candidly. I think you actually believe what you said. Many candidate acted believe what i said. Leave it there was yeah. It's not it wasn't it wasn't like take it wasn't because i saw most of the people tweeting at your like this guy's just looking for you know his his twenty minutes of fame here yet. No my twenty minutes of fame are long over. Let's not kid ourselves. I'm while expired on has been a never was. You can insert whatever terminology you want their. That went into my handicapped for the game. When you look at chris beard who had the best career. Winning percentage of any head coach in college basketball a limited sample size really thought the tech would find some unique wrinkles. Especially on the defensive side of the court to arkansas. And a bit of a pretzel to arkansas's credit. They were the aggressor in the second half built a commanding thirteen point lead. We're pretty close to relinquishing it. I may or may not be disappointed. Mac mccullum missing the first front end of one and one is an eighty percents. Free throw shooter or texas tech blowing two lamps late in the game but you know arkansas went out there and took it from him and you know it's not going to necessarily change my assessment paint the analogy that i've created and people argument. How many times do we come on our football. Podcast and bash. Andy reid for not being able to execute and crunch time. All of a sudden you get that first allusive super bowl and it's a weight lifted off your shoulders and shoot arkansas. Go on to win the national title. I don't think they're going to then. Yeah the narrative changes a little bit and my expectations for coach muslim and not just as a recruiter in a program. Builder change in being a much better basketball coach. And i probably give credit for in the past completely agree and i think with networks taking advertising money from gambling companies and other networks fully in bed with sports books. I think there's going to be pretty commonplace because more contents can be created around gambling on these networks. And i've said this. Numerous times of last year's the gambling in sports world is intertwined more than people think it's only going to continue and so this isn't. This isn't a surprise. Anybody we talked about this on the podcast last week. As part of handicapping the tournament that coaching just matters more now. I probably wouldn't have said one coaches licking his chops to face another on a platform. That wasn't mine but you weren't wrong. In alluding to the fact crispier is one of the best coaches in college basketball. And that was i. Think one of texas tax advantages in the game and regardless of what. Arkansas fans thank was a one game samples ice. It's not going to change anyone's opinion and beaten often seed oral. Roberts isn't going to change anyone's opinion. Either and what. I decided to do today. 'cause i got a little bonus. We're prepping for these games. I'm not a big social media guy. But i was with you there in spirit and i'm going to defend you in saying this. I watched the game live. And i went back and watched the final five minutes of that game unfold again. In everything you said came to fruition arkansas possessions. The final five minutes. Are you ready for this. An iso banked three pointer from potential lottery. Pick your two free throws on a loose ball foul sixty feet away from the basket. Tate had an ice. Oh play at the top of the key where filed went to the free throw line made both a turnover and then the only good offensive set ran the last five minutes. Like a given go a dunk. And then after that there is a fatal along to at the shot. Clock buzzer and then there was a missed. Bunny off another. I so play those. Were arkansas possessions. The final five minutes. And i'm with you. Like i think arkansas is probably the better team for the first thirty or so minutes. Blatant that game. I think if you ran the final five minutes a thousand times in gave everyone the same shots. They had texas tech. Wins the majority of the time. Is you add mac. Mccaughan eighty percent. Free throw shooter. Missed the front end of a one to Potentially take the lead and then you had beer drop like this ridiculous play the next possession. There's blown up to take the late in then edwards blue and other layup to tie it to send it to overtime. And i know we talk a lot about coaching. And listen i you kind of know the ties that i have had in college basketball and a lot of it is at the ducal evelyn sending players to some of these teams some of which were in the mountain west and specific derek. Musclemen like i think he's a good coach and at college. There is probably more than just the on floor aspect because you have to be able to recruit. Which isn't really thing in the nba. And sometimes fans and other people have a hard time separating the recruiting from the on court so anytime. i think. I talked personally about coaching. And i know probably this pertains to right. We talk about. Coaching mismatch is more. It's basically strictly on the court. Oh his comments. I saw the video. He said that he took it personally. And it's like dude. Like everything i hear about eric. Muslims like he's a good dude and we know he's passionate players by then. He is like this elite motivator recruits is dick off. I can tell you that but like the reality is teams like to get out and run and his offense is basically four offense with a lot of ice. Oh ball with better players that win one on one. It's not some like sophisticated brilliantly. Run offense and at nevada. He had to pros in the martin's brother thurman who's in the g. league and caroline who is a pro and like jordan brown who was able to transfer arizona contribute as nationally ranked player like he had the horses overpower basically everyone in the mountain west conference who doesn't like to guard but like i saw his son and his son like stood up for him and i get like he was like yeah. My dad doesn't have a lot of wins at the college level because he's busy in the nba but you know the nba. There isn't like this. Massive talent gap that there is in college right in talent can't like make up for all your deficiency coach muslim one forty three presenters. Nba games. So it's like. I don't know there's a little bizarre to me and i think it's also odd and i think the the oddest part to me is like you know the shit we get anytime. We lose a picture right on this guest. Meanwhile the sky is falling. Meanwhile like musselman's like preparing for a game to get his team to the sweet sixteen. He's making two and a half million a year in somehow like an analyst is on his mind hours before the game. Very bizarre pain. We've been not known to motivate people before and if that's what it takes for arkansas to play with a chip on their shoulder so be it. The one thing though that i did want to say that i think people took out of context. People go you know we say some things a personal axe to grind or diving. If someone's character couldn't be further from the truth that's one thing. I stand by what. I sat as far as coaching is concern. But i don't want anybody getting the idea that we think coach is a bad person or it was a shot at his family or anything along those lines. What do is gambling. it's xs and os. It's what happens for forty minutes in college basketball. Sixty in the nfl. And if we hold a grudge all it's gonna do is. A road are bankroll over time. That's the simple reality of it. So i want people to understand that part sure. They may not agree with what i said again. I applaud arkansas fans for coming out. They're defending their own. That's what a lot of these college fan bases will do. And it's what makes college athletics. So great as a collective but in no way shape or form was a personal attack by any stretch of the imagination. That's not how i do business. And that's not a you do business and the biggest thing for us finding ways and intangible edges to pick winners that. We're going to continue to do that. And i'm sorry to any fan base that we're going to offend today on the podcast or necks college football season or next. It's not personal. It's all about making money in maybe about forty minutes from now. You make amends with coach but we'll see we'll see we'll we'll figure it out but i appreciate the form here and like you said. This is our platform. We have a chance to talk about things. Invite anybody who has questions. Hey we got our email address out there from the podcast over note. Had a chance to do in arkansas radio show earlier this week. The guys gave me the floor. We answer some questions. We shot the shit talking about games and you move on. You let bygones be bygones. Hey the reality of it is. We have fifteen games laugh before recruiter national champion in college basketball. We may as well get down to it for one of the more unpredictable tournaments. We've seen pain given the fact that the sweet sixteen provides us with the highest remaining seed numbers in tournament history. Only five double digit seeds have reached the final four tournament history as well. We'll see if that changes this season and we can kick things off at hinchelfield house when villanova takes on baylor. You're looking at baylor. A seven point favorite at fan duel. Total in this game has been bad up now into the low one forties baylor. Of course the heavy odds on favorite to come out his a minus a dollar. Forty followed by arkansas and then villanova. And of course or roberts the primary cinderella remaining in the field when you look at this particular game paint. I don't think it's going out on a limb saying villanova had the softest road any team remaining to get to this point in the tournament already pissing people off or two. Apparently there were not getting invited to north philly for a live podcast show. This is an interesting one. Because i think there's a lot of manual handicap here because i believe what we're seeing in the market is pretty obvious right like baylor's a team that people were down on relative to their season coming into the tournament. After how they you know the final. Seven games unfolded pre-tournament. We talked about this last week. The defense dipped to one hundred eighty. I and efficiency once. They returned from their twenty one day layoff. You know they were over. That final seven-game stretch. I believe because the defense was horrific thing it was like eight and a half points below market expectation on average in those games but we saw baylor players came out and it was like specifically on mitchell had quote. He said basically before the tournament that that we ought allow them to refocus on the defensive end of the core guys were comfortable in their rotations. They were able to work on their traps. I know baylor played like a horrific hartford offense owes outside the top fifty inefficiency but wisconsin more than respectable offense but effectively. What we've had open is like this slightly discounted price on baylor. What the narrative seems to be is that jay wright and villanova somehow figured out life without colin. Gillespie and i'm i don't buy it and i'm did. It's obvious that pro betters. Don't buy and you kind of hit this perfectly. It's like just because villanova beat a twelve and a thirteen seat like here they are. I don't think they solve some of those issues in. It's why this game got steamed out from five and a half to the key of seven and it might even go a tick higher so you know. Jay writes going to have to figure out something in this week off. And i never liked to doubt him because he's that good but like even being one of the best teams in the big east. Novas is you know not really good in so it's probably going to be predominantly in the half court here and this is a game where you're probably going to feel the loss your point guard so that'll be pretty interesting here. Because whether it's it's arch or justin moore running point. I think david mitchell's gonna make life miserable for them in the half court. He's got a knack for really like disrupting these offenses and i think. There's some other areas here. Were were baylor really. Has some advantages. offensively. I don't know how villanova stops riley baylor shoots it the three ball better than anybody in the country. Villanova's outside the top two thirty five and three point defense on the inside villanova ninety four in near proximity defense only blocks about seven percent shots at the rim. Baylor's probably going to control that area. Right they're going to control the paint on offense inside so to me. It's baylor pass. It's always tough for me todd. And you're better sometimes with some of the the handicapping angles here. But it's like you have a team off their best performance of the season. And i know a lot of people won't believe that but if you look at their performance based upon market expectation that was villanova's very best game of the season against north texas. And now all of a sudden you're playing the best competition that you've seen all year simultaneously right and the market is interesting because effectively. What happens is like nova gets this tiny boost dominating north taxes so you have to increase their power rating for a win post. Gillespie but it's almost impossible to repeat that level of play because that's you're very best performance this season and so now you're giving nova this boost despite knowing you know it's pretty certain they're not gonna reach that level again and now they go and face the tough team they play all season. So i i respect right and he's going to probably have a good game plan and he's a great xs and os coach. I'm not sure it's gonna be enough here. I mean look at villanova. You talked about how the exceeded market expectations. Pain average one point. Four points per possession. They were fifteen of thirty from beyond the arc. Sixteen of twenty six inside the arc simply incredible. They turned the ball over six times. Meanwhile north texas still average more than a point per possession. And i think all of villanova or not all. I shouldn't say it's probably not fair. A lot of their success over the last couple of years has been attributed to how good they are defensively. And you mentioned it this team when you dig into some of their defensive metrics a far cry from what we've seen in the past and i think that could be on full display in terms of getting exposed by baylor team who's figuring things out in reminding us. Why for long stretch of the season. They were mentioned. The same. Exact breath is gonzaga's prohibitive favorites to ultimately cut down the nets without question. And i think that's part of the massive discrepancy here is because we said coming into the tournament. It's always tough to say this because you know baylor's or one seat but the perception in the betting market and we saw some of their numbers was like ham. Baylor wasn't very good down the stretch. We don't know what they're going to be. And we almost said this about as well when you have that much. Talent defense is an effort thing. So it's almost like we're still. I know you know. We saw them exceed expectation the first weekend but like here we go again. Like baylor's defense has the ability because we've seen it to be the number one defense in the entire country and that's what they were for a long stretch to begin the season. Even when they went into the covid twenty one day laps they went into that eighth and defensive efficiency. And so that seven-game stretch that i mentioned really distorted some of their numbers. Now they're back down after this past weekend. Thirty seven so they're ceiling is significantly higher than villanova's as well. I agree with us move. It's tough to take now at the key number of seven but this could be a game where you know it could get ugly here for villanova if if baylor is as good as i think you and i both believe they can be exactly and i agree normally if you were talking about these. Two teams are coaches. I was gonna say having equal talent. You'd obviously give jay wright that nod the code only bridged. Coaching only bridge a gap when you have nba caliber talent. That baylor does. And i quite frankly jeremiah. Robinson has been outstanding tournament. But i don't think he matches up with the trio of guards that bailed throw at them when we look at the other game in that region pain. Of course it's oral. Roberts against the aforementioned arkansas razorbacks. You're looking at arkansas. And eleven and a half point favorite in this game. Total one fifty nine at fangio sportsbook. These two teams had the unique opportunity to play each other earlier this year. Back on december twentieth. When you look at that game arkansas closing one thousand nine and a half point favorite. At home they win the game. Eighty-seven seventy six. But when you dig into that box score they raise the ten point. Halftime deficit dominated the second-half but more importantly arkansas absolutely oral roberts on the glass they were plus twenty six overall plus seventeen on the offensive side of the boards and the two teams combined twelve for fifty three from deep justin smith of course finished with a double double and the numbers. Don't lie with smith out there for the razorbacks. This team has been outstanding. Where they're only one in three without him when you look to try and break this game down. Pain is the market valuing or roberts. Two victories against ohio state and florida. Get to this point the tournament. I think so yeah endless. And like you have to love this for the kids. On oral roberts and the coaches. This is a free role for those guys right at this point. They're playing with house money in sometimes dangerous for the opponent. But you know we. We like arkansas right regardless of what people think. It's top fifteen team in the country. And they're going against the fourth-best team from the summit league. So there's not gonna be an upset here as much as you'd like to see that todd. But i'm putting my bias aside. I'm not for upset. Unless they end up with an or roberts take it in my pocket. I don't think that's going to happen but try not to go on a tangent. Anybody who wants to do a little research. Go ahead and read the honor code for oil robert. It's more restrictive than byu kind of blew my mind but continue so early or roberts isn't winning this game but the spread obviously makes it somewhat interesting in something that we can talk about now. You mentioned this. The guys played each other already. Wants the seasons right before christmas. Arkansas got down by ten and they win by eleven but the shut four for twenty four from three and they turned it over fifteen times so they practically they pushed this current number by getting down double digits early in shooting for for twenty four from three so again like the ceiling. Here for arkansas could certainly exceed this. The lines interesting. Because i think there's this vast difference of opinion on what this line should be from. The guys i speak with and it is the one sweet sixteen matchup where you do have this this cinderella component to it and i think or roberts is going to be the public darling of this round where we think maybe sixty five seventy five percent of tickets are gonna be on oral roberts somewhere in that range so it'll be interesting where the line goes. It's already come down from open. But i remember just made a touch higher. We're in that like thirteen point. Eight range honestly so. I don't know it's going to be one of those games. Let's see what the public does. This is the tournament where they do have a say. God forbid this gets much lower. But i mean when i look at this alternately there are few things that are going to decide who covers again. Like arkansas's not losing this game but if arkansas can defend three ball and if arkansas can without fouling there enroll really where or roberts is effective is you know behind the three point line. Top fifteen three point efficiency. The best free throw shooting team in the country. And you know you have a guy like jalen tate. on oregon's i was like an absolute foul monster. So if they don't give or roberts all these free points the charity stripe thing. Arkansas is going to be fine. So of arkansas can do those things. I think defensively. They're going to cover the number offensively. They have some some real advantages despite not ryan the best offense. So when you look at were roberts on the other side three hundred and forty six in the country in near proximity attempts allowed per one hundred possessions. Arkansas lives in the paint their twenty first in near proximity shot attempts per one hundred possessions. So arkansas is going to get good. look after. Good luck in the paint and at the rim and arkansas like when they do miss doesn't mean the possessions over and you hit this perfectly. Razorbacks are crashed last year. And or roberts is three hundred thirty second defensive rebounding. they're three hundred and thirty points. Given up offense or rebounds now if arkansas is on from three which is you know. They're extremely streaky. From out there. Then forget about it. Because all roberts is going to give you open looks from deep as well. So this is not a good match for more roberts and know it's clear there's a little bit of a price discount here but if arkansas does the little things well this probably going to be a know probably going boat race these guys now again if if they do some of the dumb things that they a tendency to do maybe or roberts can stay within the number but i just i don't see it now we've seen arkansas have a history of like starting slow this season maybe having down they bid down double digits in each of their first two tournament. Games was it. Fourteen colgate ten against texas tech yup. And then you mentioned again in this first meeting. They were down ten at the half. So you know if we aren't playing miss because we see value in the full game maybe it's something we we look at in game or at halftime. Maybe we'll have that opportunity But the but that's really. I don't see an angle here to be taking more roberts from the market perspective or from the magic on the board now and. I'm not gonna disagree with that assessment. The one thing that does make oral scary. If you wanted to make a case for the underdog which we're not doing here they do have two guys that can flat out fill it up. That's kind of the recipe you look for for cinderella and to their credit. They're stars have really stepped up at smith who is name mispronounced ninety seven times last ten games averaging nearly thirty per contest fifty five point zero so far through the first two games and kevin score twenty four twenty one in the first meeting against arkansas and last three games overall. He's poured in two thousand eight thirty and twenty one with thirty one total board so if those guys get hot sure they can keep competitive. But i'm like you. I'd be stunned. Arkansas lost it's a question of how comfortable they are in building a lead ultimately hanging onto it when we shift from the south to the mid west houston now the de facto favourite with illinois getting balanced out boiler chicago. You're looking to houston. She'd better than even money on fan. Duel sportsbook followed by loyola plus one seventy syracuse at six to one and the upstart oregon state beavers. Picking up the rear at eleven to one oregon state will take on loyola in a game. Being played at baker's life banker bakers bankers life. You're looking at loyola now. A six and a half point favorite total in this game pain one twenty five and a half and when you look at twelve seats have performed in the sweet sixteen a robust one and twenty straight up a little bit better against the spread. Nine and twelve oregon was actually the last twelve seat and it happened twice to reach the sweet sixteen back in two thousand nineteen in two thousand thirteen they cover the point spread twice oil ago. No smoke and mirrors there they dismantled illinois from start to finish is going to be a a snail of a game. That's just gonna come down to half court execution and it's pretty wild to see that they're pretty much like terms of tempo Pretty identical or it's like two teams outside the top three hundred adjusted pace loyal only temps nineteen percent of its shots and transition oregon state twenty three percent. This is all about half court executions. Going to be one of those games were like a team gets seven point lead. It's gonna feel like twenty. I said this last week. Loyal as a top ten team by our power innings in depending on some of the filters we sat there anywhere from seven to thirteen. Loyal is like this easy to three seed type team by us in the committee. Just did absolutely no favors for illinois completely. Autumn oddsmakers are finely pricing loyal accurately and. We're looking at an open of like six and a half seven. It was a majority of seven. Now we're down to like still six and a half seven but a majority of six and a half. We made around that area. It's like six point. Seven is where we made it. We know sevens and important number so make sure if you do have a strong stance on this game right. You're on the right side of the seven whichever side you ultimately take when i dug into this i. It seems to me that like if it doesn't have a hot shooting night from three that they don't have much of a chance because past the three ball there are other means of offense are are pretty much like getting offensive rebounds which loyal number two in the country defensive rebounding efficiency and state is is uber dependent on scoring from the free throw line but loyal as smart doesn't value oil seventh in the country and free throw attempt rate surrendered. So they're gonna make aaron it and they don't give you free trips to the charity stripe so unless will or in state shooting threes. And they're hot from from distance. Like i don't really see how they score. On the other end you have porter moser with a week to dissect film and come up with an offensive game plan. Which i think is scary for any opponent. And that's the weakness of the beavers team is the defensive side. They're not great. Defending the paint. Outside the top seventy five in both mid range defense in near proximity defense lawyer runs. Its offense through big man right. Cameron crop wig oregon state's outside the top two hundred and two point defense because the tallest player on the team plays more than you know that plays more than fifty percent of the minutes is six seven so there's probably going to be an advantage there and because oregon state so small in the show under-sized they follow up two hundred eighty. I and free throw attempts allowed per one hundred possessions. And if you look this season tied. When oregon state lost some of these games right to arizona twice by combined forty three points. They lost to usc thirteen the thing. Those teams have in common is capable big man and so at the college level. You could debate that you know. Very few big guys are better than loyal. Cameron crowe quick. It just feels like if this is going to be played in the half court. There's just far more advantages for loyola chicago and it just feels like you have the coach with extra time. You have a team. That's playing closer to its power rating more consistently in the beavers are really playing above their current power rating. So i mean you just get the better defense in oil. You have the offense. I think with more advantages and loyal with easier ways to score gonna come down. Oregon stake in hot from three. That's that's probably how they have a shot to cover this game. If not an ad like a normal to below average shooting night from three probably going to be a loyal and nine to ten to eleven point. Win and i get it. It's it's kind of attractive right like you're taking six and a half and a game with a total of one twenty five and a half but it oregon stages isn't for me. Yeah i mean it's the kind of game where it wouldn't shock me. If it fell sixty five fifty nine you were talking about -lating free throws late to maybe extended slightly further. I will see to the beavers credit. They've been a team. That oddsmakers have truly struggled with all season long. And the reason. I say that five straight up in the postseason all five of those games. They want outright as a dog of five or more points pain. I don't ever remember seeing. Ats numbers like this from a program. Which of course forces you to pay premium if you wanna back the dog oregon state twelve and three against the number last fifteen games okay. That's impressive but what's really impressive. Seventeen three and one against the spread their last twenty one games in that stretch. Eleven of those winds have been outright upsets. It's rare to try and see that wayne tinkle's clearly getting more out of this team. He's ethan thompson. Have his best game but you talked about their key to success in getting through. Oklahoma state in the round of thirty two was parading to the foul line. Thirty five times knocking down. Thirty two from the stripe you figure. They get their six to eight times. Max against loyola. In my opinion there's just not enough offense out there on the court for the beavers generate should local the grind this into a half quarter fair that they've been so effective and doing. Yeah that's pretty. You know the ats pretty staggering there and it does indicate that oddsmakers are having a tough time. We know winning breeds winning and so they're hot right now. They're playing with confidence. And certainly you know you have to give them credit for how they finished the pac twelve regular season and into the conference tournament. When you look at the ncaa tournament they beat to dysfunctional teams. Tennessee is very dysfunctional. And they have a huge deficiency in half court offense and oklahoma state. My god the effort is not neither none. And you're going now to face a loyal team that is the epitome of energy effort in focus. It just feels a little different again. I get it right. If you wanna take the points you could have taken the seven right. Which is a key number and a game probably gonna close potentially one twenty four and and so it gets tractive right you just kind of stacking the math in your favor there. I just don't really see any advantages for oregon state past the three point line and don't have a secondary pitch in this game in my mind so for me it would be loyal or pass but not a game that i'm invested in porter. Moser stick it out at loyola or does he look for greener pastures or given the landscape. We've seen in college basketball. I know it's been talked about. Can he create that kind of gonzaga fact with fertile recruiting ground in chicago. Maybe similar to what coach pitino might wanna do if elected to stay at iona in really pull in some of the best players on the east coast to one of the best xs and os coach. And i think he's got a chance to go anywhere you want. I think he's the hottest name and i think. We both kind of tweeted out. Similar things in terms of like. Hey indiana go hand the guy a blank cheque yet. Naysayers will say you know. He's only made the tournament two times. Believe in like seventeen years and sometimes the small school mentality doesn't work it. A program like indiana. But i feel like if indiana isn't getting quite the players they should because it's not you know twenty years ago maybe guy that can coach above the player he recruits is is something that's beneficial. I don't know we'll see. I know we just signed the big long term deal right. Think he's supposed to be there at least under contract until two thousand twenty five or twenty twenty six. I know he signed a pretty new big deal. But yeah i mean there's going to be a lot of bigger programs. They're gonna come to him basically with a blank. Check the thing about it too. That's crazy. I mean all has a rich college basketball history. I mean people laugh at that. Going back george mike and then he might have been depaul. Paul i mean i'm going to forget it there but when you look at some of the facilities they have and some of the wealth at the boosters can provide. It's not deep pockets like indiana or some of the other big ten programs but if they want to make a commitment to being relevant and you can potentially get some of the big boys to come play you a little bit of a different storyline. I mean there was a reason going into that illinois game. Those programs had three times in thirty years. It was just no upside for big brother. So be interesting to try and keep tabs on exactly how all of that unfolds. We kind of had this discussion. I don't wanna go too far in a tangent because we have a bunch of five games to get to but when we were comparing indiana basketball with the current state of the program now is it similar to like nebraska football where they believe that they should be able to return to that. Upper-echelon more like tennessee. Football that it's gonna take a little while to break it all down before he can build it back up i think nebraska. Football was the perfect analogy. And you start to. I think there's at least i mean. Listen it's not the recruiting hotbed. That people think it is. I think it's a little bit more difficult for nebraska to recruit. Because there's not a lot of stuff around there and you're always going to be battling with the weather thing even at indiana. I don't know i just. It's going to be tougher to recruit these places now. Kids have more say than ever before and playing warm weather matters. And it's clear that indiana doesn't have the cachet with the younger kids that had had in years past. No one none of these kids right now. Like notice indiana basketball is. They weren't there for the heyday. It's really funny. I mean you kind of made that comparison to football. But i always kind of think about it from a florida state perspective. Some of the kids that they are trying to recruit now remember j. Missing two thousand thirteen's national championship but like you talk. Somebody's players some of these kids in high school. Don't even watch football right they. They don't it's crazy. It's the craziest thing ever seen you like. You couldn't like four states overcoming a little bit of that now right but like like don't even know who mike norville is like they didn't watch memphis football So similar here. It's like some of these kids. Don't even watch basketball and indiana has been on their radar and a decade. So there's no loyalty to that program despite the fans believing like it's this rich tradition and they're holding onto twenty years ago. Yeah i mean that was a great example of nebraska football. I am stunned. And i think we both are debt. Scott frost in get that turned around. And if you're a corn husker fan and you're saying yourself like my god scott. Frost couldn't do it. Is there any hope. He may be relegated to a life of a six six existence in the big ten west. Trying to fight for a ballgame. That happens to take place after christmas the way they're headed. We'll see what indiana hooves can do. Of course all. It takes one recruiting class or a couple of guys to bring any mr indiana From the state to try and turn things around. We'll see the direction that the hoosiers go to programs. Though pain have taken different trajectories houston has turned themselves into the perennial power of late in the american athletic syracuse. We know what they're capable of and the program behind has built over the years houston finds themselves a six point favorite for their sweet sixteen showdown in this matchup. Total on the game sits at one forty. When you look at how these teams have gone here. Houston buried cleveland snake. State before sneaking by rutgers finishing that game on a twenty three to ten run meanwhile syracuse back to back upsets dominated san diego state to the tune of a sixteen point victory and outlasted west virginia. Seventy five seventy two syracuse. Hey they've written the hot hand of Buddy bay was putting shooting clinics. That we haven't seen since steph curry was at davidson. Meanwhile houston winning. They do authencity but there is a ton of effort and energy and they should have some success crashing. That offense glass so kind of hinted last week but didn't fully divulge because i know we were kind of looking for hooks every time it popped against san diego state but the one thing that we have been doing over the years manually adjusting syracuse tournament rating. Up from what their end of the regular season rating us and it's because of what they do defensively right like syracuse version of the two. Three zone is a little different. It's not your traditional to three. They like to trap certain areas of the court. So you haven't seen it. It's it's pretty quirky tops. But if you're in the acc and you play syracuse two times in the regular season and you catch them in the conference tournament. There's a chance by the time you're junior senior you've seen in played against jim boeheim zone. Six seven eight nine times so it's not a shock to your system at that point but seeing it for the first time in an ncaa tournament or having you know roughly thirty waking hours to prepare for it. In the short turnaround game a massive advantage for syracuse. Since why think you have to adjust the oranges power rating in the nca tournament the other thing that helps syracuse in these tournament. Settings traditionally the old crotchety one behind doesn't really love the play. A lot of guys so short rotation so all of the incense amount of stoppages in the ncaa tournament kind of help them. But also kind of mentioned last week and this is really interesting for syracuse. Is the they go. Eight deep now right. They're getting some contributions from their young guys could argue richmond and robert brazelle has had some really good young especially in the acc tournament against virginia. And even jesse edwards. So they're in the regular rotation right now and you're getting at the same time joe girardi. Who's playing with more confidence. In buddy behind is just playing. I think the best ball that he's probably have played. But this is a really tough match for syracuse because offensively there's not a lot of shot creators. their starting five is pretty competent with the ball. And regardless of what the metrics say i think houston can give syracuse trouble. If they press at times or they make syracuse work to bring the ball court. I think houston's got an ability to overwhelm you know. Joe girardi if they want. And if samson's looks the film is probably going to pick up on that with a week to prepare so this probably could be a game where you're seeing qatari richmond. A little more. Bring ball to court if houston can do that without following. I'm not sure syracuse does overly well here on offense and we also syracuse temps tunnel deep shots three hundred and thirty first in terms of shot distance from the hoop. So they live in die with the three ball and houston's in three point defense there. Isn't this great inside presence for syracuse. Either i mean dollas. A great guy handles the ball. Well he passes it extremely well for the position but he's not a guy giving it to in the post one on ones go attack down low. So i mean i can see a situation where syracuse isn't overly comfortable on offense here and you look at the other side and you hit this perfectly at the top is like one syracuse gonna make you beat them with the long ball and houston's respectable three but the biggest thing like most circus games are anytime defense. Plays a two three zone. One stop doesn't mean it's over for you on offense syracuse. Three hundred forty in defensive rebounding. It's the main issue when you play this type zone. And that's houston's bread and butter number two in the country and offensive rebound and because those offensive rebounds houston's number one in the country and shot attempt rate and houston also converts forty five percent of those offensive rebounds. So they're not just getting them they're convert them two points and so it doesn't feel like a great matchup here for syracuse. Now the game has a ton of average right because syracuse shoots ton of threes and they give up a ton of three point shots zone so there is going to be a lot of variants this game but you know if houston can give syracuse trouble bringing the ball to court and do it without fouling and houston can hit a respectable amount of threes and an own. The offensive glass can probably feels like exit stage left for the my beloved orange here. Todd when you look at houston It's been an interesting team to watch nine game winning streak right now. The point per game differential more than twenty three in that stretch pain six wins have come by twenty plus points three wins by three points or less common denominator. There is those teams played outstanding. Half court defense memphis twice and ruckers once when you look at that point per game differential second in the country behind only gonzaga so it just speaks to how good houston has been the one last thing i want to ask you about the cougars. Four move onto sunday's games. Do you worry at all about the strength of schedule. Within the a knowing that the league was down in that they're stepping up in class here or was rutgers potentially the wakeup call to calvin sampson needed to get his team's attention. That is a little bit of a concern. And i think we know the. Acc was down a little bit as well. But you're right the a c was substantially down this year. They haven't faced a lot of competition. There's some weird losses in there. There's some weird games that gave them some trouble. But stylistically i just don't know if syracuse is going to be there offensively and i think that's kind of where i'm more focused on this game. Houston for some reason. I've shot like they just play like a snail but they're going to have an opportunity to some threes and they're going to have some opportunities the glass but i just feel like defensively. They might be able to overwhelm syracuse here. And that's really why mindset is that houston ends up winning this game. Because i can see them defend the perimeter where syracuse doesn't really have great ball handlers joe girardi propensity to get a little bit Fustrated he's not the quickest afoot. He's not the bitch. Ridler people have trapped him He's folded a little bit under pressure. And again i know as a team. They have a decent turnover rate on offense. But i just i don't see them being able to get into some of their sets. There isn't a natural shot creator. Sure buddy fantastic pulling up from three. They run some good stuff from him on occasion when he sees a smaller guy on him. He's got no problem backing him down in hitting that mid range shot and he's got a bigger guy. He does a decent job going off the dribble a little bit but these houston vendors. I mean athletic. Their long physical. I just don't see a ton of shot creators here for syracuse in. That's the one. I think the most concerning thing for me honestly aside from the offensive rebound this number to me says a lot like if syracuse word abba shot would expect us to come a little bit lower and candidly. I make this line personally. Touch higher like i'm in the seven point eight range. Now there's some concern. I guess with with Dijon jerus- got the hip pointer got injured in cleveland. State game left early. Did play the rutgers. Game battled back but it looked like he had some discomfort in hip now hopefully with like about a week off he's going to be a little bit healthier so i think that's partly why we saw him hit the injury report on the don best green. That's kind of when we went from six and a half down to six just a very tough match for syracuse while syracuse doesn't shock creators pain. You know who does the number one team not only in the tournament in the land who enters the game against create thirty two game winning streak gonzaga a massive favourite to win the west region right now listed at one two three there followed by six to one oregon seven and one and creighton fifty to one your current prices at fan duel sportsbook. And when you look at the game against the blue jays gonzaga thirteen and a half point shock over under sits at one fifty eight. They're chasing their fifth elite eight appearance in program history. This would actually mark consecutive wins in the sweet sixteen for the first time. Ever and when you look at what. This team has done their averaging ninety two points per game. That would be the best in college basketball. Vmi back in two thousand seven. The difference being gonzaga plays defense played zero. Does creatine have any chance in this basketball game to slow down the offensive juggernaut that has been the gonzaga bulldogs. No and take nothing away from creighton. Right mcdermott's an absolute monster. He's taken this program from the missouri valley to the big east and create made the sweet sixteen which was their preseason goal. So everything from here on out is is found money for those guys but around one creighton beats a big west team by one after santa barbara shot five for twenty one from three and forty seven percent from the floor overall. And then you get a thirteen seed in around two gonzaga's to me like so good that they can somehow cover the number against oklahoma and the sooners arguably played their best thirty minutes basketball this season. So i don't wanna talk for the sake of talking todd. We made this game twelve point seven markets. Thirteen and a half. I don't see much value here. But if if creighton's going to stay within this number they're gonna hit the long ball and actually take advantage of free points at the charity stripe where you know the three hundred twenty nine th in the country and free throws i go. No didn't mean cut you off go ahead you know. Thirty four percent of creighton shot attempts. Come in transition right. This year begins. Aga has an excellent job getting back. Twenty three percent of opponent shots come in transition and of those transition shots taken opponents have an effective field goal percentage of forty nine percent. and so. i'm not sure you wanna run with gonzaga. You know it feels like zog is played this game before right. Three times in fact creighton feels like the byu of the east coast when you compare a lot of their efficiency metrics on both sides and gonzaga when there's three matchups by an average of twelve and a half points if creighton hits shots this game probably somehow finds. Its way into the one sixties. I just don't have much here. This isn't something i'm running to. I don't see a ton of value in this game at all. it just feels like one of those games. it's like you know we have gonzaga futures. Just kind of move on business as usual and let's get to the next round. I think it's fair assessment. When you look at how good the bulldogs have being. They just find different ways to beat you and it's not one player that carries the team if he has an off night that they can't beat you variety of other ways so game where fagin zag at your own peril. They should have plenty to answer. What creatine will throw them when you look at the next match up on the docket at a pair of pac twelve teams credit to the pac twelve nine and one st up nine and one against the spread so far in the big dance. I think it surprised a lot of us although we did say on the podcast we thought the pac twelve is a little undervalued pain. I'd be lying and be completely full of shit. If i thought that the pac twelve it perform as well as they have when you look at this game it's been interesting to monitor the line movement here. Usc at two and a half point favorite at fan duel sportsbook. Total one thirty nine. You did see shut. Some shops out here in the desert move oregon to minus one when the game had been open for only a short time as far as early betting these teams met once during the course of conference play a game or usc one seventy to fifty eight tajdidi led the way with twenty four points but the bigger story line there was doing. Does they own the glass plus thirteen at thirty nine. Twenty six these coaches two of the best in the business when it comes to covering numbers during the ncaa tournament dane allman now up to sixteen and four against the spread. His last twenty s head coach of the ducks enfield a robust nine zero against the spread. Six in three straight up. If the ducks are going to be successful pain in this matchup we know they're not going to be inside three pointers. Do they have to hit to pull off the mild upset bunches bunches. Let's start with the number because there is a little battle going on here. One group laid usc minus one and half early another took back oregon plus three on the by this afternoon. I should say wednesday afternoon because we're now recording. This lights like thursday might times twelve forty one eastern in the am on thursday. So yeah wednesday. Afternoon is when oregon plus three on the by came in so there is a little bit of a battle going on here with the sides you mentioned. We thought the pac twelve is a little underrated coming into the tournament. Usc was her sleeper team in the west region. When we did the opening round podcasts and we said of the trojans get guard play you know. They can beat anyone in the country. Because evan mobile is as good as it gets down low and that was kind of what wrong in that first matchup back in february. Usc got good guard play and beat oregon by two touchdowns tajdidi at a one twenty six offensive rating in that game went six eleven from three. What's interesting though is the other mobely. Isaiah didn't play in the game. And if you've read some quotes isaiah mobile has had some choice words for the ducks this week. And he basically said. Oregon stole the regular season pac twelve championship from them. So despite usc winning the game in february. It's almost like usc feels like they're the team hunting for revenge year which is very odd in terms of the matchup though kind of to your question pointers. Like for the ducks offensively. They're gonna have to win from the outside their top fifteen in three point efficiency. It's the one area where. Usc is a bit vulnerable defensively. Their guards aren't the best pressuring you they don't turn you over. And they're not the best closedown jumpers and so you see is outside the top one fifty and three point defense now some of that's because no one dares to go down low on the mobile twins which is smart. You should try and go down low against the twin towers. No you shouldn't especially when you hear some of these numbers that's really the strength of. Us's defense opponents only make forty eight percent of their near proximity shots. That's number two in the country for us's defense seventeen percent of shots at the rim usc blocks. So the moly guys are are absolutely monsters. And as i mentioned like isaiah didn't play in that first matchup against oregon and a lot of teams won't even test them inside. And so you see a lot of mid range jump shots getting taken which are not so efficient against usc. But it's pretty interesting here. Us's defense three hundred and fiftieth in midrange jump shots allowed per one hundred possessions so the ducks are going to have to hit the long ball. But they're also going to have to do some work in this mid range game as well in shocking. They're pretty good. They're like fifth in the country and mid range shooting. But it's such an inefficient shot. That like usc in any smart defense is going to say like. Hey you know beat us with the mid range game can and if it happens you tip recap move on. The other. End is interesting because oregon's defense is probably their problem area. They don't defend the interior overly. Well they're not the best closing out on deep shots. The doctor outside the top one forty and three point defense on the interior they let teams take a live shots around the rim and with isaiah and in evan mobely charger twenty second in the country in near proximity shooting the advantage. The ducks may have defensively. Is the usc guards. Don't always value the ball. Hundred and twenty-fifth in turnover percentage in the ducks or twenty seven potential points off. Breakaway steals oregon. Has this like it you know. Effective field goal percentage of seventy eight percent when the shot goes up within ten seconds of steel. So maybe that's one way the ducks offense can also Add to the three point Advantage they have offense. But it's gotta come from the defensive side because down low. I think us's going to be able to dominate. And i said this in the. I guess pretty much every time. Evan mobely steps on the court is going to be the best player and that is really where. Us's advantage lies and if you can get average to above average play from tajdidi. Usc is an absolute bear to beat now feeds off. Organize a chance to pull off the upset here but again little battle going on here. I don't think there's probably long-term much money to be made because we're now sitting in this this to rain or oddsmakers like a guy. I group one half second. Group took three Let's just float this here too and long-term lang mine is one probably isn't an advantage for anyone betting this game but we'll say that's why they play the games one thing. I will say there was entertaining. I'm not sure if you had a chance to watch. Ese game against kansas. And i'm not quite sure where it came up. In the telecast but the announcers with a straight face gave the timeline for usc and the mobility family to arrive on campus. The father gets there one year before isaiah. Isaiah gets there one year before. Evan and people believe that everything college athletics is all on the up. And up by mildly entertained by all that credit. To andy enfield. Oh he's made. This seem like you said a bear to play and when you can bring that kind of elite talent. Evan mobile has been outstanding. Haven't had a chance to watch him during the regular season. But it's been a treat to watch him through the first two games of the tournament and realized how good he is now once he puts a little bit of muscle on that frame. He's going to be a beast at the next level. Absolutely surefire lottery pick andy. Enfield has been great in the tournament. I think may be Initially touched underwhelming. But i think you'll see fans are pretty much happy with his performance. We know florida gulf coast has been completely forgotten about since his departure and they're envied staff is pretty good recruiting so Yeah i mean listen politics in college. Athletics the to shadiest industries in the entire world. And we'll leave it up to our listeners to decide which is actually. She's here between the two right. Final region takes us out where the only game that will see around sixteen or seeds of held number one michigan on the number four seed. florida state. You're looking at michigan. A two point favorite fantasy sports book total in the game. One forty one. Forty three and a half. I can't read the chicken scratch. I have in front of me when you look at these two programs and the route that they took to get here. Michigan outlasts texas southern one of the basketball games. You could have watched. They find a way to extend late against lsu. Meanwhile florida state two very different winds. Be unc greensboro a single shot from beyond the arc. They turn around the block. Colorado seventy one to fifty three once they were able to cut down on their turnover. Woes michigan no pain pedigree of getting here along with florida state. I mean michigan fourth straight trip to the sweet sixteen six in the last eight seasons. They have lost to the last three trips. This could be where the absence of isaiah livers is truly felt. Meanwhile florida state no stranger to deep runs in march madness. Either when you look at how this game will be one. What are some of the xs and os. You're focusing on we. We kind of touched on. Fsu last week we didn't really break them down a deep dive form. But we did you know discuss them a little bit. And we thought they had a real chance facing gonzaga for the third straight ornament and all of the teams in this tournament not named gonzaga or baylor state was really the only other team in the country that checked virtually every box right like they have the athletes. They have the nba lottery pick. They have depth in length in height than athleticism. They shoot the piss out of it in the half court but they also love getting out and running in transition. The only box that f. issue doesn't check is number one they don't take care of the ball. Turnovers hurt them. I was gonna go turnovers. That's mia yeah in the potential for leonard hamilton to be outcoached schematically. We've seen like mark few. And even i can remember chris mac when he was at xavier. Really like give it to him. But what's interesting in this matchup against michigan's like the wolverines defense three hundred and thirty seventh and turnover percentage. They don't turn you over. So that's one less worry. Floors state has and if ham can keep it within four points against john. Beeline version of michigan. Sharp headers are thinking. You know john howard's probably not going to be the guy to like outduel coach ham in a game of chess so to speak here right. And it's why this game has come off the key number of three and were at consensus two and a half and receive in one very sharp at too. I think some of the factors which can be obvious is which team can hit the three right. Fsu didn't make one in the opening round game but they got back on track against colorado but y say that is you have to offenses top twenty and three point efficiency offense to defenses. That are both outside the top one hundred and defending the three so the three point line is always the thing that can swing games. But it's really going to be critical here because both defenses our lights out at the rim. So it's gonna come down to who can make shots from deep and neither of the defenses. Defend the three point line. Overly what so. I think it's probably got a chance to have a little bit more variants than naturally occur here michigan defensively thirteenth in near proximity shots. F issue with that height number one in near proximity defense in the entire country so again it's gonna come down to to some deep shots here. The other possible x factor. Todd in said smarts. And it's i didn't want to go there but yes you are. Correct issue is a little undisciplined especially with their fouling in. They have to be smarter with that issues. Two hundred thirty eight in the country and free throw attempts allowed per one hundred possessions. We know michigan lights out from the free throw line. They will make you pay. So that's one of those little x. Factors in a game. That's probably going to be pretty. Tight is yeah. There's one team that takes dumb fouls and you know they think about it and it's part of the coaching philosophy. It's like hey. It's almost like a hockey line. Change like ham goes. Yeah nine then guys deep. It's like hey you know go out there. Play your balls off. Everything's one hundred percent and so it lends itself to more following but in a game like this like you send michigan to the free throw line. It's it's free points so that's one thing they have to be smart about absolutely and then again. Don't turn it over. But we don't feel like michigan. Is that type of defense to. Actually you know create turnovers cause some havoc at the top. And you know give you a difficult time getting into your offense. I think maybe you know this is a game where we're florida. State has a real chance here. Maybe this is the game where isaiah livers is missed. But the one thing that we said last week was. This is a different version of michigan. Losing isaiah livers isn't the death blow. It was a season ago when he was the only player on the team with an offensive rating of one hundred and ten. Now you have five other guys on the michigan offense that has a rating above one. Ten and sure enough. They didn't skip a beat offensively in the first two games. No they didn't put. I knock sure that will put lsu in texas southern as defensive juggernauts in there. And i think one thing when you look at michigan. What i found interesting is i wanted to dig in a little bit one hundred dickinson in some of his performances. When you look at the games where he struggled. He scored six points against maryland. Thirteen point michigan win. No big deal scored six points against illinois. Okay it's a game. That michigan was blown out. They lost by twenty three scored. Eight points against purdue michigan won convincingly and the maryland convincingly where he scored three the common denominator in all those games all of those teams had size in the middle that gave dickinson problems. You wonder florida state. Having those nine bodies that play more than fourteen minutes a game will really frustrated. Fresh from these performed an older high level but if florida's states smart and they take him away. I'm not sure without livers on the court. Michigan has some of the secondary options. That's that'll be the key. Can you take away. And we know. Florida state traditionally one of the tallest teams in the country and again number one in the entire country in near proximity defense. So if you can remove him and now livers is also out could present some issues and that's ultimately why you've seen money come in florida state. Along with the fact that thing a lot of bettors might have realized and again. It is a small sample size. Only a couple of games matchups are huge. But i think people are starting to have the idea that maybe the big ten was a little bit overrated. And they've adjusted. Their power ratings down is partially why this is happening as well. Change it a bit there. There's no doubt and no and you look at this region. I should have shared this before we dug into the two games. Michigan is a slight favourite to come out of the east at plus a dollar fifty five alabama behind them. A plus one seventy five. The tide have been the biggest movers. They were about two dollars plus twenty. They've come down. Florida holding strong in that plus three eighty range in ucla. The long shot at plus seven fifty when you look at the final game of the first round is terms of how the rotation is constructed alabama now a six and a half point favorite. Fm book total on the game. One forty five and a half and pain we've seen movement on both sides total here alabama being fed up game being over the total which is awfully interesting. When you consider the ucla comes into this game three hundred and thirty seventh in the country and tempo and last i checked. It's usually easier to slow a team down. That is to speed them up. Let's see what nato has cooking to try and get mckernan's team playing alabama's brand basketball spot on right. This is contrasting styles at it's finest and the discrepancy is is massive alabama's twelfth adjusted pace their third and average possession time forty percent of the tide shots come in transition and you mentioned. Ucla three hundred thirty seven pace. Three hundred ninth in possession time only twenty one percent or shots come in transition and it's always been easier to slow a game down in speed went up but she kind of alluded to like bro. Betters have been pounding alabama in the week and we've seen the total go from one one forty two and a half out is one forty six so apparently they don't. That's going to be the case that you know speeding it up might have the The advantage here for alabama. I'm having a difficult time gauging. Ucla because we know they dropped the four games down the stretch but it was to better teams in conference right with colorado and oregon and usc and then ucla lost to a red hot organs day team in overtime and the in the conference tournament. So when you look at the losses there by an average of five and a half points those four games one of which was an overtime. And i know before the tournament. We didn't really sell our ucla stock right because once they got three michigan state a pretty big buy came in but the rest of the tournament like kinda fell their way. You get us off. Byu team that mick cronin guys able to kind of beat up and out physical and then you get fourteen seat abilene on the the quick turnaround after they went arguably their biggest game in program history upsetting texas. So they've had some things fall their way but it's just odd because i don't think ucla's good as they've shown in the tournament. I don't think there is bad as the four games prior to the big dance. So i'm having a really tough time evaluating. Ucla when i look at some of the on court stuff. Ucla's offense does pretty well right. It's like this methodical. Half court offense. They shoot well from two areas. They've been lights out from three. But alabama defends the perimeter extremely well with their their length in their athleticism top ten and three point events but oddly the one area where we could see this game decided is the mid range game and nato in alabama. They're willing to give up the mid range game mode team shut. But shockingly like ucla feast there and the bruins. That's where they take the most of their shots it shocking to say this in in the year twenty twenty one but like the mid range game for. Ucla's offense probably going to decide this if they're hitting they may stay within this number if not we could see those mid range missiles turned into transition points. And i'm looking at alabama right now. Twenty six percent of alabama's shots within ten seconds. Of a rebound. So we either get. Ucla midrange buckets here. Or we get bam leaking out in transition on some of those mid range. Mrs ton of various. But it's something to look for when you're watching this game for alabama offensively. They're gonna have to play clean right. They're gonna have to knock down threes. That is where they have an advantage. Ucla's around two hundred. In the country defending the three point ball because the numbers alabama. I think when you look at some of their offense like to play volleyball at the rim we kind of like i love nato but there is this ragtag element alabama and alabama does pretty good job crashing the glass top fifteen offensive rebounding. They're eighth and finishing second chance opportunities but you shall been really good. They're right it's is a mick cronin tame he's bought some physicality to the west coast and ucla's forty eight defensive rebounding. They're sixteenth and points allowed off second chance points. So it's like it's unlikely that alabama's gonna get this surge offensively from crashing glass and getting cheap points outside the parameters of their their set offense now. I'm certainly not like fading. The group here responsible for the bama move. But i don't think i'm going to join that party at the current number either. Yeah i mean. The price is definitely done a fine job of leaking out when you look at alabama. You are backing the team. After one of its best shooting performances of the entire season finishing sixteen of thirty three from deep in the win over maryland. A school record for made threes in a tournament game. As you mentioned we know this team loves to take threes. They love to make threes and when those shots are falling there as dynamic as any in the country so should be a hell of a game. I think alabama senate stock rise quite a bit in the tournament and we'll see if they can sneak out of this region and maybe provide a potential scare. Should they get further into the dance against some of the other big boys that are out there encourage up. All of you are loyal listeners. If you haven't already done so download the fan sports but app sign up using the promo code beck the board all sorts of great opportunities to get you involved from the sweet sixteen until we crowned national champion. Risk-free pets spread the love campaigns. You name it. 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Like it's obvious we like baylor a little bit but that number is gone. I think there's potential to catch arkansas better number in game but the one game that we both kind of agree with todd is is florida state and so let's go florida state and what i would advise doing because it is an important number if you can get it on. The by three minus twenty is what i advise. Obviously there's a shop right now. That has three minus eighteen naturally but two and a half across the board an easy by two three minus twenty. And i think that's our best bet at this point on a number that is absolutely widely available and obtainable. That worked for you going to be okay with the best bat emotional involvement everything else. I mean this is a weekend where you have to programs that you live and breathe with that. You're going to be invested. Not only just as a sports better potentially but As an actual fan of college basketball foregone conclusion. We're getting old ham verse verse behind here in the championship. Book i mean you can go to vandross sportsbook and take advantage. I don't know exactly what the price is on the exact match up. But i'll be candid. Might my wall. It's a little more important. So i mean this. This is gonzaga bust for us here. So yeah i figured that might ultimately be the and ultimately be the case and you look at the bulldogs and everything. They've been able to do all right. My friend Anything else you'd like to share with our loyal listeners. Before we take essentially a week long break and come back when we know there will be four teams remaining playing for the national title. No that's it. Let's get out of dodge. It's one o two. Am in the morning eastern time here thursday morning trigger. Are you gonna pull an all nighter. I feel there's got to be a breakfast diner. You can go to for some steak and eggs at four thirty five o'clock in the am. I'm not a big steak and eggs guy. But i i i do like a nice little crispy hashbrowns meg white's crispy bacon. Maybe a bagel toasted with butter. That would be fantastic hankering for some orange juice. Do you want to share one trait secret with the in terms of you know some people turn to red bull. Some people turn to a five hour energy to get them through these late night. Sessions to breakdown games eloquently as you. Do you want to share with our audience. What you had to take to get yourself here sometimes ago with like a little piece of Sugar-free dark chocolate. This time in this is this is getting wild. I actually did this after a brush. My teeth to which is makes just nutty. You're such a rebel. You a personal level. I did. I had a sugar. Free orders original. I was channeling. My inner eighty seven year. Old woman And i had to put on a nice little sweater. As i recorded this podcast just to go full blown old lady mode with my with my workers while you do live close to del. Boca vista sake can take full advantage of you. Decide that the all over that show that ward court been awhile since. I've been down there to shuffle shuffle to hostile on the shuffleboard. Where four or five zero that my grandfather taught me. Oh so well back in the day but all right that's enough we've done enough damage for at least this broken down. All eight games given folks angles things to think about some opportunities to make a few dollars like always encourage you guys. Download the fan sports book app. Sign up using the promo code beck. The board take advantage of all of the great opportunities that fan duel is extending for college basketball and all of the other sports. They have on their betting menu. He could fall pain on. Twitter at paine inside insider firm and you can follow me there. Most importantly follow podcast at the board pot and come whatever the hell day of the week. It is because. I'm so confused with the schedule with a florida. State ticketed hand. 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Cold Beer and Chris Beard Edition

Courtside with Seth Greenberg

53:15 min | 1 year ago

Cold Beer and Chris Beard Edition

"Ouch that's his third travel tonight. Normally I get on this case for being a complete novel but tonight I'm chilling Stephen. What's gotten into you? I know usually I'd be off right now but I gotta tell you this vivid seats thing got me completely changed one hundred percent authentic and got these great seats yesterday when a vivid seats at stress-free wait we're doing you put them a hotdog matter. What you think is the old Stephen We know the at the BUZZER? Hello timeouts they do courtside ride with Greenberg and dockage the definitive college basketball podcast. courtside with Greenberg and dockage. I'm Dan Doc said Greenberg two-time ACC coach of the year. And of course the coach whisper when coaches have problems the first number they call is seth Greenberg's we're going to give everything we got today like we do every day said Greenberg was there. It was the champions Classic one versus two three vs. Four Seth. I'm going to throw. Oh there's out before I throw it to you I say all the time. I'm going to say it again. If you can't shoot you can't win in college basketball. Kansas couldn't shoot Michigan State. Couldn't shoot okay. I got also say this. You know we love us some Izzo you know. He loves us. A Michigan State but Michigan State is the number one team in the country. That's the weakest number one team in the country. I can remember member in my life and I'm fifty seven years old. What did you think of the champions classic? It's always in the defense. Is the head of the offense that teams obviously struggled shooting on the campus. They uncomfortable to the right. Somebody Tell Kansas the colored uniform that they will wearing because To me that was a concern when you play. Those two bigs together It's an issue I think and I look. They didn't handle the post doubles. They didn't have the ball pressure. You got to give Duke a little bit of that credit but You know when I look over all I took away and everyone's like complaining. Well you know you got these great games champions. Classic Zombie Games underneath about terrible. I think the only problem champions classic if you're GonNa play the champions Classic led stand on a day by itself not a day. That's one hundred forty other games and have that the start of the college basketball season or then if not that then play two weeks down the line where maybe the quality of plays going to be better. But look you've got good teams great programs great traditions hall of fame coaches tyrus Maxi on the at the world's most famous arena stepped up and made big place Kentucky. Duke guys guys have different DNA now they're delays on the defensive end. I got some versatility in their lineup. And I'M NOT SURE THEY HAVE A. They don't have a generational play wrong that roster roster Kansas should have been better they weren't I was. I was disappointed with the way they played and Michigan State. They need someone else that will put the ball on the floor and make a clay and score a bucket besides caches Winston. Because Cassius Winstons coming off this ball screens I thought Nick Ritchie was great strong about US decides and all that and and I'm not sure cash has got a ton of help that's my cash. Got No help and I didn't think there is anywhere in that game that anybody was going to help it. Nobody was making shots. Right wing left wing top of the key. I said this I said this last week. I'm telling you that Goings Kenny. Goings kid made a big difference in Michigan State last year and so did mcquaid man mckennie goings. mcquaid are missed and we saw it in the first week. I would argue if I were Indiana or if if I were Virginia I would argue your point about champions classic standing alone now as an ESPN guy. I want champions classic standing alone but I would say if I were Virginia or our Yukon teams. That won the National Championship. Said I would say to hell with those four programs start you know that's a made for TV deal. y'All start when you want. We're starting when we want. That would be my argument against the champions classic standing alone as its own game. You know if I were one of those teams that that no I totally I totally agree with. I mean like you know I wait a second here I mean do. The rest of US exists right But if we're trying to promote the game love let's face it. I mean there were there one hundred forty seven games at night. Everyone's eyes there's no other game or there was no other classic that even compare it to what happened event day. CC started down the play and and that was interesting Doubt about it and everyone's up in arms about. Oh how can you start a league. These games are important. Ah the same for both teams like a both both of the ACC teams that started. You know their season yesterday. Didn't they prior right. At the same number practices it was the same for both teams so like it is what it is the point. Twenty League Games coaches would rather play those games with fans in the stands since then over the winter break so not. There's enough I mean yeah. If you play twenty league inch schedule you can have your own network. You have to put those games somewhere. It's a good way to start your elite. She's in terms of bringing attention to your league and attention to what you're doing in the football season it is it is what it is but I'll tell you what thing one of those dudes that started their season. Go after it did bother him then bother him all hit thirty four I I address one thing. You just said that people are going to complain. No matter what right I mean you you could. We've learned in our society today. People are going to bind and Moan no matter what so. You can't even pay attention to anybody. Complain About Coal Anthony Son of Greg. Anthony Lit it upsets. Here's what I've always said and I I experienced a plan. I used to talk to players about this at Indiana. You you come out and you practice every day at the Dean Dome you practice every day and assembly hall you progress every day mackey arena wherever cassell coliseum and now all of a sudden you come out in a game day and it's a totally different look in the arena and the band is in there. The bleachers are pulled out there's not eight baskets there. It's just a total different. Look Coal Anthony. The last night as a freshman with thirty four didn't care even a little bit and he didn't drop thirty four against six hyphen. He dropped up thirty four against Notre Dame in his first conference game. Seth that is unheard of this is is he the newsline Williamson. Can we have an overreaction podcast chance tiered say wait a second I mean I I. I'm GonNa last year now so I'm hanging out with a couple of months right here in my room and everything and You know I'll probably going ice fishing and a little later or something but You know like to me I get up is on. I'm sure that is no someone's on implicating about a CO avenue and what he did look. I think the kid he made plays off. The bouncy runner shot threes. He chocking made big shots like tires. Maxi at twenty sixty of the night. He made some big shots especially that three down the stretch and he was really really good But Cole Anthony did it the whole forty minutes. Now let me ask you this. Do you think and I really believe this like I'm Anthony. I'm watching champions classic the day before and I see Irish Mazzi go off right now. The other freshmen. That people talking about are the best players in the country. The best teams and like I gotTa believe just in the society. We live in that matinee. The like sitting there and you can wait till tomorrow. Put me on that state anyway. Through tomorrow so no one can guard me. I can get the ball anywhere I want anytime I wanted. I can make any play. I'm going to have the ball my hands. I've got absolutely agree like Kobe. White started like you think of Carolina Point Guards. Do you think the Carolina point cards pushing it making place for other people get into lane. They didn't have real ball guards really Carolina now after Kobe white I think Williams said you know what I can have a point guard. That can be almost a score. I pack I make plays. Yeah I gotta be Self Shug GonNa make the right play but you know what I can play placate this guy and he can be my best offense of weapon where you think that if you don't you're making a mistake I mean right I'm really Williams is I think arguably the best coach that you're gonna find her as good as any and I think he found a guy he let him play thirty seven minutes. That's one thing I would so agree with you on. And it's amazing. The talent the kid could go ahead and do it but Anthony Watching maxie. I think is a great comment. Because you're sitting there watching the guy and all these kids know each other all all. These kids are buddies. All these kids came together. And you're sitting there going man. I got tomorrow to prove myself. I got tomorrow for my coming out party and in the be good enough to do it like. That's the thing to be good enough as a freshman because I don't know you know Mike Breys team is usually old and stays old and all that kind of stuff love but to be good enough to come out in the Dean Dome and knock in thirty four eleven rebounds five assess dominate. I mean I'm talking about dominate the entire game. I mean it's one thing to say and we all know that kids today in adults today we all all know what to say and you know but to go out and do it was fascinated. Hey I do WanNa talk about Virginia. Though before we get to crispier because Virginia went into Syracuse the least amount of points Syracuse has scored since Jim Boeheim was six months old. Did you know that six months old jim oldest dirt thirty four leased them out to me. I don't see a pro on Syracuse. and to me you can talk about losing the three guys last year from Virginia. But you still gotta deal with Tony Bennett. And that's a lot to deal with south. Yeah I mean look again. Virginia is always going to be built on the defensive end. I But again this this this game and the circus's retooling them and they've Zack's guys funded by halves can be better as users can be better and You know the kid during the The Kerry hit number Kerry Point Guard Obviously re really really struggled so look I. It's one game but the thing is going to be good to mama the keep they is going to have a not a good year but a breakout got year and right now obviously. That's not the game. You WanNA open season with the play against that defense. You know the one thing Casey more cells obviously really good defender and and Jay Haas gave him smile fence their games going to be ugly. Damn people have complained about Virginia for years. Virginia's GonNa win like twenty eight games and people are going to about every one of them quite a way. You give you a chance to win. Why would you ever worry about anything? External Eternal if you're Tony Bennett or anybody inside that. UVA program you don't worry about anything external you don't worry about anybody talking anybody saying the system. Tom Is the system. It's motion it's movement. It's knowing how to play. It's helping each other and it's getting into stance guarding and getting in the help side and then finishing it all with the blackout walkout. And I don't know how anybody can complain about them. I don't know turn overs. No transition right. No second shots they can shut. They want you. Don't get shot you on. It's always confessed and what what is wrong with that. I don't know first time. Listen to the first time since. Nineteen sixty seven. Defending Champ has had to go on the road last time was a UCLA. Gone to purdue how about that. I mean that's that. ACC schedule you. Were talking about. Seth and Virginia. Hey if you get sixty against Virginia. It's going to be interesting. I'm curious I'M A. I'm kind of track this all year. How many teams are going to get sixty against Virginia? Will anybody gets seventy against Virginia. I assume somebody will. But I'm telling you right now. I watch somebody somebody last night. That's just a lockdown Hari. Clark I mean that Dude had eleven rebounds littlest guy in court. I'll tell you the clock thing is if you run displays against Virginia. Oh Yeah No. You're not score. 'cause they're they're if they can scout you and know exactly when to point B. and take you out of what they're going to take you out of what we want to slam jam bad. Maybe Dick what do you do and warming up for the game all the Games I watch even when I can't get tickets. It helps screamed stadium atmosphere to wherever on watching all the diaper. Daddy doesn't come on Vick. Save it for the air. We've got a game and checkout Kowt vivid seats it's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the Games. You want to go to vivid seats for the baby now. You run motion. which is more spontaneous in reading react and and and and now all of a sudden they can't just lock into a he set? It looked a little bit more difficult because coach Pierre. What'd you drop on On Virginian Championship game. I don't remember the exact number but it felt like about thirty eight points Talking crispier here I was popular at seventy seven seventy seven. We were just talking about. How like Virginia? How many times they give up more than sixty this year? Probably not many right so you could do it on one hand coach. That's unbelievable. How about coach visit us this morning coach? All all right. What you've done is absolutely incredible And I always say it's it's your background and your journey to perseverance that enables as you to do what you do your experience of your ability to connect with players getting the best in them and get them to compete and getting the trust each other. How much is it it? Also your background of you know having to rebuild your team every single year whether it was in junior college division to how how how. How is that help you get? Where are you alright? Now for me personally coaches and everything you know. I wouldn't trade my journey out for any other journey. We tell the players all the time. Live where your feet are. Run Your own race A really good coach told me that one We've been taught guys that a lot lately but You Know For me coaching at different. It's a levels and coming up the other way. Did I think it just gives me a greater appreciation. And maybe a little bit more urgency than extra. Chris when you when when you look back have you taken time. I mean I know you got beat. Okay Virginia Gotcha. Last year national championship game. was there a point this summer where you sat back with maybe a bourbon and a cigar dame. That's pretty good or is it like most other things like to this day I still go to bed thinking about four losses. Thirty thirty five forty years later or is it like you know the other way damn. We should've done this or should have done that. Jeff which way you go this summer. Well first tall coach Bourbon and cigar. No more like course. Light and Water Burger card away we will figure like five million a year. Yeah you get a cigar in a bourbon. I mean back in your junior college days. Maybe a course. Lightning WanNa Burger. I figured you went big time. Yeah I used to say the best kind of free beer announced glass free beer and he's a cold beer now. It's a good Kushner. Every time I'm asked it I tried to be as transparent as real as I can. I I I really haven't reflected much Just like most coaches. I don't ever watch that last game. I've always had a plan that one day. I'll watch when we went the last game so this summer overall started with our Jerry video watching Michigan State game all the way back to the first game of the year and garnered word But I've yet to watch for Jimmy Game. I don't really plan on watching it until until we win it all one day But I think Oh really one time coach Kinda hit there just seeing those five seniors. Seniors every Every scene we have is on an NBA contract either an MBA or or G. League so to see those guys chase their dream and all be here in the states playing in front of their families right now so that was one moment that kind of maybe reflect how special last season 'cause I intend to spend time with your not the thing I was most impressed with was your message your team and how can how connected you are and your staff is your team and You know isn't that you you talk about Coach saving say in the impact. He's had on Yukon. Explain how that I would say fatuous but how his journey and how his approach has impacted what you're doing. Yeah it is borderline infatuation coach Most people sit around and Google and stuff at tonight I. I'm pretty much can tell you everything about football In Texas Tech football is the to follow but Just started for me growing up as a kid. I was a little bit more of a football basketball Just where I grew up in irving and that's what we played It was a big part of my child. It's also have always loved it and just a few years ago. I just tried to get everything I could get my hands off about coq. Saving not only at Alabama Michigan State. LSU NFL And then just really. The idea of the process really hit home. You know not necessarily coaching based on outcomes and the end of the journey but more day to day process. Let's control control troll. We'd already. We'd always Kinda had approach like that. But I I wasn't as smart or as good a verbalize. Her is coach was so Then the summer wraps actually had a a great opportunity to understand some time and Not only coach but everybody on their stuff from their ops guys to the coordinators spent two days and had had some access Took advantage of it. And so my opinion of Alabama football leaving Tuscaloosa was even higher than when I arrived. I I think they're simply stated there are some of the best of what they do. Is Anything Change relative to recruiting for you after last year it has coach To say it hadn't wouldn't be accurate. It's you know there's just a few more doors that open I think whether we can you know Close those deals consign those players. It's Kinda yet to be determined. But we're definitely recruiting a different player This year's class I can't talk about of course with the NCAA rules but We have some commitments. We're really proud of guys that I think they'll be able to play early in well At this level but there's no question the success translates to I would say more opportunities But does it translate to just get the job done. I think too early to tell and that frame you've won with a certain type of guy like you've won with a guy with a little bit of a chip you've got one with a guy that feels like he has to prove something That hundred percent has to buy and allow himself he coached. I mean what your staff does breaking down. Every single play every single practice and teaching through film deal. Worry about like all right. We're GONNA recruit the very best players larcenous. We need good players but we also got a guys that are the best players that get what we're all about. Is that ever a concern for you. Oh absolutely absolutely I dunno as worry is the best word but definitely focus on that See I don't think you know we have a thing we say. Never lose your chip and Got that from coach Samson so by look up to my good friend you know street. Dog Mentality was kind of last year's label but it's all the same thing about never being satisfied side. It's about never forgetting where you're from. It's about having an expectation for yourself. It's higher than anybody else could put on you whether you call that. Don't raise your chip street dog or underdog. Whatever you WANNA to call it? But I don't I don't think it has anything to do with one star versus five star. I think you can find a five star player. That has that chip you know. He's trying to prove everybody wants to be the number one. Pick Dick where you can take a no star player. Has that chip. And he's trying to prove that he can play at this level so I think what we look for is that hunger and we look for that. You know basically as you just addiction the basketball and addiction to winning That's a word Kinda came across this off season we've been using you know. Everybody says love of the game. I think that's kind of a given. I mean if we're recruiting guys that don't love the game that were not recruiting well but that next level guys that are dictated to the process addicted to the game. WanNa get better. Can't get enough of it. He's the kind of guys that we love to coach. And that's what is always talking about our show. Few weeks ago. He was talking about guys that limit manages inside them. He's done. Oh by Langford being that kind of kid not just say you know I gotta practice but I it's me it's it's who I am. How easy is it to find kids like this? I wouldn't say it's easy Coast put it. But it's possible I always started recruiting. Like tell the guys like like anybody can make the right decision. You just have to have the information to make the right decision. And I think a lot of times recruiting Coach officers it's kind of a fact-finding mission Eh occurred as well. You know that the information's out there. I mean if you ask an AAU coach exactly how the kid was a high school coach. Most people people more than not are GonNa tell you the truth and especially if you develop relationships but you're going to get the information it's just a matter of work or not Well we try to find no probably above everything else. Of course it's talent No question about that. We all understand but when you get past the talent and you start talking about things that fit what you do. There's different different ways to win and for us. You know that love of the game and that desire to be your best is really something. We try to identify in Circle in on recruiting. I'm pretty quick when you look at your team this year. You know it's for sure process with this team because you're putting this new group together the only two guys returning And their roles probably have changed. Not Maybe the roles in terms of their games but the roles in terms of their position Peed when you look at your team right now in this moment of time what do you see. We're definitely a work in progress. But there's a lot of optimism. I mean I I like my team I some people might say I hope you do. But that's not always true. You know get into some teams and what you thought what you're trying to build. Maybe he's GonNa have to go a second route but but not here. We're still kind of our original plan as we. You put this team together. We like our guys. I think we're talented. We're obviously young and inexperienced But you know no excuse culture you know. At what point are you not a freshman you know after you play twenty minutes twenty games you still freshman or what pointed you not inexperienced after you've played x amount of game so For us to start with the with the two returners played minutes last year moral cuyler then. Our third returner Avery Benson is really the heart and soul of our team in terms of daily worker worker. The and then the ten new players you know featuring six or seven freshmen But we are talented coach. We were good enough to play. We're good enough to win possession. Now we consistent enough to win a game. That's what we're working really hard right now. Coach when you practice you know you've come up with a lot of different people coach night you know. Obviously you worked for him But you've coached with a lot of people coaches asked me this all the time around the state here in Indiana you know. How much do you devote a defense? How much do you do out office in your world? What do you consider yourself as a coach Marvin Defensive Guy or do you consider yourself a coach hopefully above all we? We're trying to win I think what we do. And there's a there's some exceptions as to the Rolex are pretty strong pattern. I'd say first day of official practice until two or three days before that first game so caught about twenty five twenty six practices. We're probably sixty percent defense and forty percents offense and then we start getting closer to game time. We'll shift it and I think in our typical practice wants what's the season starts. We're working you know. Probably thirty percent defense thirty percent off into breakdown and the other forty. We're trying to get down to play. Live I think above all if you if you had to characterize us. We were definitely a defensive into a defensive mindset and I I would think a toughness mindset but you know and specifically those freshmen and I know I was blown away by parents. Sean is energy is passionate and obviously Jeremiah's Tobias. Like you put a lot on those guys plates but the thing that blew my mind is how you guys go about correcting them moving votes. Explain where you got the mindset of coaching through tape because no practices are I energy high intensity have great pace to 'em Your Staff is coaching them. But you it don't get lost in it until you can sit with the Guy Really WanNa WanNa and and they can see. Where did you get bathroom? I think big big little coach is more like what do you value anymore. I mean everybody loves all the above but at some point. If you're going to be greatest something you got zero in something. I think less is more you know we'd much rather be. Yeah great team at this concept in an average team at seventeen different things so with that being said I mean we've always thought kind of pace an intensity and you know oh getting after it every day in practice is maybe even a little bit more valuable than just you know execution so you know the College Games forty minutes and our thought is if we could get get the guys to go hard you know forty minutes everyday and an hour and a half practice. We're probably better off being out there for three and a half talking a lot and then you know with the NCAA rules that allow you the the twenty hours a week. We have plenty of time and we try to do a lot of our teaching in the film room. Both in team settings and individuals settings But I think above all the way to try I don't know if justifies where but explain it would be we're really interested in Payson intensity and practice and trying to get into game mold versus you know working on something talking about at work talking about it. We try not to stop practice for more than you know. Fifteen to twenty five seconds before we get back after coach. I we got some questions here from listeners. That seth throughout. Hey anybody wants to ask you a question so I'm GonNa ask you on coach. What'd you love whataburger? Come from just growing up in Texas Water Burgers twenty four hours. We all know in this. Coaching lifestyles had more one. AM meals. And I have seventy mil bill and it's made to order. You know people are going to tell you. It's fast food but it's really not great food done quickly. Yes Sir yeah no no I understand I right everything good with Chris Clark. Yeah he's off to a great start. You know just like all these graduates I. It's it's a huge adjustment. I don't think people understand how difficult it is is to play somewhere three or four years. Then all of a sudden come to a new program does the biggest thing we look for in those guys is just an unselfishness and a and the desire to try a new way in the last year with Matt Tariq you know playing was executed pretty well until about fifteen seconds left in the game but This year we have the same expectations for Chris and Holyfield. He's off to a good start. Go South believable went right to that. That's called Steam Section yeah no but these are good questions for coach. Hey coach how does it announcer. Get on your fireside chat again coach how do you how does one get on your fireside chat that segment. You got a bag like everything in the world. There's a real political side but but it's not a lot of blue ribbon red tape when you say. Oh No it's you know it's pretty. It's pretty easy even though it's political I mean You know it might be a free. T T shirt for Liz and the office. Channa can't smell for Sean Sutton book There's a way to permeate the walls pretty quickly around here. Yeah you just have to being Cleverer and smarter than the process. I assume in Yes sir right I mean that's just that's the way it's it's I mean like the fireside chat the funniest thing about the fireside chat which we did first of all when I was there we did coach either young man That was struggling. academically hysteria approached Harry Harry Harry Harry Coach challenged Harry. So you got straight as I'm GONNA have you on par chat so my man Harry. What does he do this? This is how big the fireside chat as it can motivate a grade schooler to get straight days and he comes on the fireside chat and by the way the best of rice. Sorry say this you know what you try to get these people that are going to get back and take it because they get to a game or or tend to certain number games. US tariff flat out spontaneous. Thank you sir. What would you do to the older people that some games the games to get the tickets other people what what how would you incentivize it? And Harry said to give them a coffee mug. Okay Yeah Yeah. He wasn't playing man. See Coach Matt fireside Chat. I I think I personally. It's one of the more entertaining things right. I mean it's it's it's learning to come from. How did you get a going? You know where it came from we when we got here three years ago One of our main objectives right there at the top of top of the list right like right under recruiting probably was we had to try to connect with our student body and We've got some of the best student fans in the country evidence by College Game Day a couple of years ago. Sell it out games. On opening night foes we had a legit sell out and they were styles of students outside. They weren't able to get in to five thousand feet. Student's student's section was filled ninety minutes before the game. So we've always added here but we just looking for consistency and you don't want today's world like social media. Yeah nobody really ever is looking at the billboard anymore. There's just a way to get the information to the students. So the original idea for the fireside chat was like a weekly or every ten days or so it just kind of communication the whole thing is built around them. A lot of other people are enjoying it which I'm glad that it's basically a way to communicate with their student body in a format at they're gonNa see you know. These kids are on their phones a lot more than they're reading reading an advertisement of again it's I. It is a by the way you you are so good. I I mean stuff you pull out the music that might be connecting with the cultural aspect of the people you try to reach is in the final four in one of those back hallways with the big flush carpet and all that the media people going back and forth with the golf carts or two people that I grew up watching One person kind of grabbed to the side and hot dog. We're GONNA start talking about our players. Coaching or something and the guy goes man. You do a great job. Thinks thanks here. He goes no no. I'm talking about your defensive farsight shirt now yeah missing. Pardon things you'll learn all the things that the media guys what they think holidays. Hey and after. He does the fireside fireside chat again everyone in this room screaming that I it. It's like this office is screaming and everyone watches us to make sure it's nothing. Nothing wrong happened happen. That's the funniest thing you're you're pulling people from the hallways. I mean it is unbelievable. Whoa how is the last question? I know you gotta go the the race that you're running and the pace you're running this race. What's the thing I mean it's it's it's a joystick? What's the thing that keeps you going? And can you have balance. And and and and they win income level. You're trying to win. It keeps me going with my family My three daughters my fiance randy just trying to find that balance. It's in if you'd asked me that question you know pre Jerry. Colder wasn't a big believer on balance and trying to win championships. But now I really have always said the coach can learn as much from employer as a player can learn from a coach. I really believe that No certain case colour I mean he was a guy that had balance just obsolete league no with his fate and his family but yet you know one of the most aggressive addicted people to basketball I've ever seen so I really Five Hi mark how he kinda balanced faith and family and and kind of enjoy life while being elite while working on his craft as much as you possibly could. So I'm I'm not perfect that far from it but I am trying to be the best data can be and You know here soon be the best that can be lost boss still trying to compete and figure out a way to win a big twelve game from time to time. Great Staff Man appreciate you. Thanks Chris thanks a lot man. Good luck to you coach. Thank you so much appreciate you appreciate you guys see us over. Hey you ever you ever notice how when people end the interview. They're much more excited. That's what we do. Did you ever notice. I appreciate you guys see you soon. I get that all the time. Aradio show like to mazing them in this like we got coaches just a coach to talk like. We're having a conversation that I've been then I knew that the that's that's the magic of the world's rents podcasts. I let me ask ask you questions. A lot of great things happening college basketball right already. We've Seen Coal Anthony. We've seen Maxi we we've seen some flaws in and some of our best team but was there anything better yet then. Andrew Jones of Texas dropping twenty in his return from leukemia. Anything better than that. No no I did. I did a Texas game. When he was diagnosed all that he came back and he was frail could be the As genuinely Nice A young man and and real and Sierra and I can't even think of the scribe and could see him fight through all that and to do what he did the other the day. I just can't imagine a better story all season. 'cause I know I I know I mean it is amazing and you know you said said this and this is something that I I wish. People understood there to think seth and I'm going to get your reaction to both one that you said in the other that I saw yesterday Kentucky key beats. Would they be Michigan. State right maxine. I know you were talking about. This is great. Yeah Maxi has this great game and there's a picture of him in somebody else else going to class at nine o'clock in the morning after they got back at four thirty quickly yeah manual quickly so they get back at four thirty in the morning and yet there's a pitch it drives me bat. Blend crazy people in our own profession. People that played college basketball. Ask You ball say. There's no student student athlete. What a bunch of crap? And then the other thing south comment on as you said this puts us in a twitter post. What Nice Kids Play College Basketball Man? What great kid? I know we focus on the knuckleheads when they become knuckleheads. And you know you've got thousands of kids playing one's going to be nothing but overall what great kids are playing college hoops man. The quality of young person playing college basketball with the microscope that they're under today with the goals and dreams that they're trying to create for themselves and their teams because let's face. It is incredible amount of pre for an elite player. That's chasing Jason that dream. It's not he's not chasing his just for him he's chasing for his family becomes a generational change And these guys and there's so so much pressure put on him and not pressuring a bad way but you know they wanna do. Their parents want him to do that. And let's say it's a lot of these invested a lot in their kids throughout the course careers coming up The manner in which they handle it The smiles under face watching tires. Maxi play and the smile smile on his face. Seeing four thirty four thirty in the morning And and those kids are on their way to it a you early morning class and what a message that says because you know what there is and you know people say there's no such thing as a student athlete like so you're going to class and bettering yourself and being in an an and a wage environment that helps whether you graduate or night. I'm not that experience helps you grow in so many different ways. It's an worth seeing like the very best of young people in College basketball. I really believe I do too. I do and you know so often it gets lost so often we talk about is how everybody's a victim or they need more and more. Hey look that's fine you're gonNA give more give more you get less whatever you wanna do but man there. There are some fascinating stories. I don't want to. I want you to rank for me right now. This this moment Kentucky one to ten. Can they win a national championship on a scale of one to ten. I'M GONNA GO Kentucky Michigan State. Kansas this and do Kentucky I wanted to I would I would say there are several vicarage favor right now the other day no I well. I think they're better fifty fifty. You know I I think they're better than There's only about fifteen teams. That probably are in that conversation right now. Could they be one of them. Sure Nick Richards urge people fencing as his accuracy was the other day and then he gets just makes one or two of those little jump Hooks Rim with the development of those young young guys and the White House press played. You know the guard play. I think is really going to be good. Yeah they're going to be in the conversation and I'd say you know what sixty sixty five seventy percent which is a high percentage this young woman well about yeah Dukes and interesting because their DNA now is one hundred percent on defensive. And then like you're thinking about how they how they got back in one that game I mean Kansas Stucco lead and then when they do ball pressure trae Jones turns people over over. Get Past Lynch. Get Out in transition If they can improve in the half court play through verdict carry on the block a little bit more especially on the right blocked so a to his right shoulder I do worry about it. They GONNA make enough jump shots And there were rebound the ball then but I thought they were really good defensively. I'd say slightly lower than Kentucky by Michigan State Michigan State You know car is that he was only back in practice about a week. I think he'll make a difference in that. The I like the kid hall. I think he's GonNa get better I think that I think that rocket lots has got this. Shoot it a little bit better. I stuck his left. Hand it so high on the ball when he shoots and it was so much drag on the ball Yeah I think I would put them in the same category as it should. They didn't play well and Kentucky played really well and they were player to away At piracy actually big three away from winning that game. If they won that game we'd have a totally different image of do you think it's November man. It's member remember like I don't overreact. Remember I do so. That is a perfect balance. Like I said I'm a radio show. Michigan State is nowhere no where near when they had myles bridges and a bunch of bags. And I didn't think there was college basketball. I agree with that. I think this season season and I'm looking for watching Bala- practice today and Alaska by the way it's pitch black outside like how the last six forty six. I wake up early in the morning to do the clash. Because you're my guy world's grades podcast Pi- change has no impact on None whatsoever none whatsoever we just wake up and we knock it out but I'm not sure you know I'm the vote to see bail Washington as I go through this and I start watching scores. It's watching video on on pins. I mean these teams. That are supposed to be like how it's supposed to be pretty good all right Cincinnati's pretty good thing. They Struggle Virginia scored forty seven points. One houses the thirty supports. You know you start going around the country and centre-right Georgetown. I'm not saying they're an elite team but they were down the Mount Saint. Mary's half by double digits. I'm waiting to see like what team and what players are going to merge because like no no one is jumping off the page they will emerge co epic emerge. They Iris Max. You emerge the other day. Someone is going to emerge. People said Baylor looked absolutely terrific. Made eight it breeds. They've gone from a power inside long athletic team two team. That can also shoot it But Kansas I felt was going to be the best team in the country. They they have a lot of issues. I don't think there's a team in the country right now that doesn't have a two teams play. I think are pretty good Indiana. I'm I'm here in Indiana Indiana and purdue I did not know Jihad proctor sites as first name. Did you know this kid from high point. Oh I reports the game. I mean he comes. I last night. Drops twenty-six against Li Li. Yeah for Purdue Link Garner's team and you know basically everybody but Klein in and Edwards back which is big. I think this just after a quick weekend. I overreact seth. I'm one of those guys on Monday. Overactive everything NFL. And I'm overreacting react basketball but when I saw out of some big ten teams Ohio State had a tough win Illinois. Struggled like crazy Michigan. Look too loose to me. Michigan State looked awful. I did. They looked awful. Seth and I don't say that about Michigan State ever. I just didn't think they'd look like a good basketball team. I think the big ten is going to get a little sexy. I don't love is GonNa be good basketball but I feel like there's going to be a lot of teams Minnesota crush their opponent opening night. I think there's going to be a lot of teams compete in the big ten and I gotta say unless US I think unless North Carolina's just going to be better than everybody with Coal Anthony. I want all that shot in the back side with Duke. Although they're all right but they're not translate I ask you this I love Carolina Karl Anthony. I mean they had a freshman have thirty four they at home opener. Barra era against Notre Dame. I mean they were trailing a good portion of that game right so like you know. We're we're talking about well you know. North Carolina Call Anthony. Colostomy will capture the imagination. College basketball is that about it. Because that's what that's what happens. Yeah is she next. trae young. I mean you know in terms of just turning earning the game a little bit upside down. I don't know but I mean that could happen but I don't look and see anyone right now and look it's changing surly that will blow me away and I'm GonNa see I'm GonNa see Bela practice today. And we're up here for Bella Washington the Armed Forces Classic game which is to me one of the best things that ah been involved with this afternoon. Just a little prayer from. I'm going to go to a pittance staff wage with the troops in about forty minutes. Don't they know and I and Look at this body. I mean you know you could tell you can kill us a some. I don't look at looks like I mean I mean I'm snowplow. How Fun to start? What is the O'Hara? What do you have any idea what the fitness test is? Because I'm gonNA doing after my radio so you tell me what it is. What is what are we doing? I don't know I'll find out I'm going to find out you can't you're on one leg that's true. Sure the hip replacement. Hey by the way by the way I can tell by Your Voice. Yeah you're you're making a comeback. They're much better than I was much more energy. I do have to say my twitter account got compromised. So if you could follow me on at Dan Dockage Five. I got one hundred sixty thousand followers wandering around with nobody to lead them because twitter somehow somehow said my account had been compromised. And I I can't use my old one. I'm effort now. You want people to you not really. I'm actually like like not having twitter very much last few days very well. Baylor has a really good thing my last year and like and don't like 'em all right make some of what he's done a balanced pretty crazy now. He's he's been begging athletic long they they. This is an interesting except they have four four players that were not even spent one hundred guys that are playing in the NBA right now. Wow He's red-shirted almost three quarters of the guys that have been there program They have taken a bunch transfers but like last year when I had the injury and and let's face kristen carcass. WHO's ever monster? You're the big twelve six ten to forty five rebounded score and and you know they went through so many interesting with four guard offense and all of a sudden this jared bumper Robert Merge and you know like the last twenty games averaged thirty points a game and marked by. I guess he was like reruns. Everybody's shot his sitar power forward. You got transfer more than actual who's really really quick explosive guard transferred from UNC Ashville Messier figures. Who's really really a good offense? You Choir I mean this game and the first class is going to be interesting game. 'cause on Washington on the other side you got guys as Stewart. They got to top five in the country. ESPN top five recruits. Jade mcdaniels. As stupid I mean who can flat out go. Quite a green is eligible for Washington Washington. I think it's going to be a really compelling game to watch Really talented young players versus more mature team. Second in the big twelve stream the shooting the ball to the three but also has legitimate size upfront. two teams that play zone but different zones that Kinda push out and Their point to pick up his higher and start passing lanes. I think we've got a big time game tomorrow night hearing Before last I'm anxious to see cloudy. Green quite Graham's. Name's GonNa be really good score did I. I mean like Obama's yes. He's the guy that has to be freed up and more of a score the playmaker for sure. Yeah I think so and I think that's good. I wonder this what in the hell determines who gets a waiver to play. And and who doesn't I mean that we should do hope that's a whole show right. I I don't like I'm looking in in in the big ten world. Wisconsin wants Mica Potter. Izzo wants Houser I don't know the season started. Neither of those guys are cleared quite a green does and a variety of others. I just don't understand who gets cleared and who doesn't I don't the. US is going to have to answer. How the hands? I quite agree and I mean he got he got a waiver. It's not like he went closer to home. Affiliate Dude right closer to home right. I mean I like it is so arbitrary it is it's almost. I wouldn't say frightening thing but frustrating. I think that that where. There's a real issue there because you know. Are People getting favors. Because the decision is made by a group of athletic administrators there could be a different group for each kid. That is appealing is is eligibility. And they don't have a set criteria. So here's the deal they're either GONNA have to want to no one is eligible and everyone sits or everyone gets a one-time waiver like they do in other sports that will create basically handshake lines about away. You're not getting a shot. So when you come to our place you know you get all the shots she wants to on and people people people were generally will be recruiting guys right someone else's team mid major freshmen and sophomores have no chance of finishing where they started. No chance no chance if you're a big time major player and and and you you blow up after your freshman year. There's no way you're staying in the program you're at is it is it's it's almost like ages will become the gene for a high majors. Has I think it's already happening. I'M GARY WATERS IT Cleveland State. I mean he lost three guys. I mean he'd said to hell with it. I'm getting now I look back. We won the MAC in two thousand. And there's no way the the kid who was the player of the year Anthony Stacey would have been with me. I had to redshirt him for an injury. My first year no way he would have been at Ohio State Michigan Purdue in the wherever. Ah I can't stand it. I cannot stand it for mid majors but the truth a matter is nobody cares about mid majors. The only thing we care about quite frankly is is the blue bloods I get it. But it's it's it's a far far far uneven playing field and that's not the way it should be. It's not I maybe. Maybe I'm wrong. You know what here's people turned around several. You know midday coach. It gets up to coach at a high of Adrian get works on mine and do all some stuff. And that's that's that's the comparison. Every every job I changed I I have a significant bio so you have to buy. The thing is with the choirs There will be buying what coaching mid major basketball verbally. Difficulty reinventing their team. The better you you better job. I'll say something else. Nobody's GONNA agree with us. Right now is GONNA agree with this and I don't know quite a grain or mica potter the houses kid it can go the NBA or not and you may disagree with this too. But I took transfers and he'll sit out a year and every kid told me the best year they ever had was to sit out here. They got their academics. In order the Craig's their their maturity their body. I get it. We all say it's the worst thing in the world to have to sit out and that's fine. Maybe it is but every kid that I know that transferred After their career was over and they looked back and like man. I got a lot of that sent out here so eight or whatever it is but that's not what we were here to talk about but the truth of the matter. Is You you you you do gain from sitting out like where's it by. WanNa go let me ask you a question if you're eighteen to twenty two and you're I'm not going to the NBA realistically. Why the hell would you ever WanNa leave college where you want to go? What do you WANNA do? College is the the best and if you don't like college that's new. So where are you trying to go stay in extra years. Sit out a year began bigger stronger. Better than when you're thirty you'll go. Man has has a great experience. I had doesn't mean you shouldn't get paid doesn't mean you shouldn't get more. I'm just saying gray experienced. Hey I want to thank everybody for listening. You all have made this very popular make so you go to I tunes spotify wherever you download your podcasts. And Seth and I are going to be together this coming Tuesday and Wednesday in-studio so catch us in there and as always if you're going to rate us do what do the right thing and just give us five stars because you know you love the podcast. Seth great great job. Today Chris. Beard was fantastic. And we'll come back at some

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Panic Button Status and Fraud Power Rankings

Titus & Tate

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Panic Button Status and Fraud Power Rankings

"Today's episode of titus and the blue devils are officially smashing the panic button and tate. Frazier could not be happier. Being thrown duke has a losing record for the first time and how many years. How long has it been. You're the you're the guy with all the stats last since nineteen ninety nine. That will last time. They're saying that this happened and You know. I think coach k. Right now he's little upset and yeah we're gonna do the panic button meter today. We're going to figure out where all these programs if they want to smash that button coach k. He even admitted he even said it. In the press conference he smashed he invoked the fray or the the term panic button. We bring it up now. Also we live in a as we've discussed. Npr's either as we've discussed on the show The word bubble has been taken from us college basketball. The greater world at large. And these co- these times of covid have taken the next. Who's and then people started. Just calling tissues kleenex and they lost it. So traditionally this is about the time of year we start doing like bubble talk but we don't own the word bubbling more belongs to the world. yes So we we have to come up with something else. So we're coming up with panic. Button stands as it turns out. No one else uses the phrase petty. Pbs panic bud status. So we're going to go through some teves. We feel like because this is the time of year. You gotta start getting a feel. Do a temperature check. There's still a lot of basketball left to be played tate but not that much basketball left to be played. It is february so you might wanna have weeks to start playing well if you're sucking also pac twelve update. I mean so excited to do this is. This is something. I've been wanting to do for a couple of weeks. I was real. I had to prepare to do last week but The show is running with along. I decided what the hell it for this week. i am doing my fraud. Power combining the two things. I love more than anybody else. Which is informing america about. What's going on with west coast basketball also calling athletes that i've never met frauds. Yes those are my two passions. And i'm putting them together for this Finally indicates is joining us as he does every fridays. He your talk that turns into you know the drill is we have we have. He remembered all the teams. This was a good yes. That's the big of no. We're we're getting to all of that. But i don't a little housekeeping out of the gate I want to plug this phone number that we have this. This hotline will this we. We had this idea last year. People might forget and and i mean that generally because pretty much the moment we said washer at this point the mobile. We said we were doing this. Cancel the tournament and then everything just went off. We had this idea last year to create a hotline for the friend of the program. You listening to call it as basically to be your therapy line for. When as we're getting into march the calendars turn into march. It is nut in time in college basketball. If you're a team on the bubble now it'd be the time to start playing well and and maybe you're a team that's not playing well and your fan of a team. That's not playing well and this is very frustrating. Do you express yourself express yourself so we started this phone number and we want people to call in like in the moment raw motion. What do you feel. And if you're if you're my father watching indiana northwestern and thankfully for him. The hoosiers pulled it off double overtime if they lose that game for example. Maybe my dad's calling into the number and leaving a voicemail. Saying i've had it with this. Whatever it is so the numbers this write it down. Put it in your phone. Save it for when you're hammered We don't care we're gonna play some of the best ones on on the show as as we progress throughout the ncaa tournament. So the number you can call is a write this down three zero two four seven zero eight two eight three three zero two four seven zero actually tate. It's built because of course it does because everything's supposed state all of promo but anyway putting your phone in like make the contact be titus therapy or something or we suck just make it like we suck and then your team loses its third game rowe. You're like i got a call. Never we saw the panic button. Just put president area for example. If you're a fan of purdue boilermakers as i am donor famously donated thirty five dollars and you just watch marcus card bank in three to beat your team on the racist. By the way and then by the way Trivial williams has a play towards the end of the game where he's trying to win it for purdue and gets called for travel and matt painter livid he steaming mad and he he's saying trivial was pushed and they show the replay robbie hummel who i don't need to remind you. Tate pro. Basketball legend has has is Number hanging in the rafters guests at purdue they retire jerseys unlike indiana which has more about the the name on the front but they care more about the name on the back. So they'll put. They're not afraid to put names in the in the rafters. Robbie hummel is a pru legend. And he's watching the replay jason bonetti and he goes got to be honest. Looked travel to me. I didn't see anything so I don't know it really makes you think it really makes you think that if i'm fit i'm not happy about this. Is kirk herbstreet. Type thing do fans are gonna turn on him simultaneously. They're like you're supposed to be rooting for us as a producer fans did this with jay. Bilas why are you being objective. You're supposed to do with us. Yeah yeah as a as a purdue donor myself i was. I was not happy with speaking of duke. Blue devils lost to notre dame on the heels of might mean for that to be upon but on the heels of losing to the hill's fourth home loss for duke this year. Are you ready to call. The blue devils done. Are you putting a fork in them. They are seven and eight would you. What would we say. One thousand nine hundred. The last time they had a losing record. Good then right. Over twenty second november was the last time they had a losing record february. Probably and eighty four eighty three something that before k really turn things on and got like amateur and ferry you know. Of course jay bilas now identifies with those guys and they all came. Didn't change the program and coach k. To be quite honest with you. He doesn't seem too concerned. I do think if if coach k. Was really pressing the panic button if he really asked the age old question at one. Point blip or bomb. You know that's what you know when the fbi scandal happened. He said he thought it was more of a blip than a bomb. I think the coach k. sticking. With the blip. I think that right now if it were a bomb we would have more pressing concerns for the actual tournament. I think okay would actually be leading the charge to make sure that we are not going to indianapolis to make sure that we don't have a tournament to kind of sum up this season coach k.'s. Okay with it so right now. We're going to leave him. you know. Sorta kinda let him be. I wanna see how he plays this whole thing. Because i think now he does the tv brand play which is coach k. Go to cbs. And beyond and make some jokes you will. I think he will. I think this is the guy in question. He's been able to do this ever in his career. This is the first time that coach k. Can have archive footage of him. Laughing on the air with some of you know the game right and coach k. You know breaking down in the ohio state game now. i want to the tournament. Oh no he's going to be there. It's kind of like you know when nick sabin the one year he wasn't a national championship game. He was there talking about it. It feels weird. Dude k in the studio with set davis rubbing his belly. Yeah dislike coach. What about this time. They're so in cliffs and coach. Your motion offense changed the game. Now let me see this even think about this. So if you're duke fan you're not even trying to talk yourself and not like we could strings. There's still there's no. there's no. I saw a headline. I just typed in duke basketball. The top news story was coach k. Offers you know top five point guard you know for the next class as we move on people forget when coach k.'s. Went out you know and ninety five p cadet took over and they didn't make the tournament but it wasn't case fought. It wasn't his record. The reason that he did this was because he wanted vince. Carter he went to go. Recruit vince carter. That's what he did when his back was hurt. He was recruiting vince. Carter in florida own. Smith was not very happy about this. He said i thought your back was her He's he was recruiting. So right now k. Is pivoted us back in the recruiting world. And you think. I joked in tweeted. Like what if i told you one and done is dead. It's not dead cages. Got the wrong crowd seriously. He looks at sharieff cooper. It all burn says. That's the kid i should have if he looks at kate cunningham and said that's the kid i should have but yeah it's interesting because those are the sort of the reactions like oh my god ducasse. Seven and eight coach k. Is not getting any younger is this. The end is know they got three. They got three top and guys coming next year. But i just saw people freaking out like where do go from here. The answer is the go-to next year and then away we go. That's it. i think you know. I don't want to bring it back to the super bowl because i know we're past that we're in college basketball season right now but throughout the year the kept bringing up the comparison of tom brady bill belichick and they were saying. You know. who's the guy who's the one that really made this whole machine work. You know good player. Good program coach. Robert kraft obviously chose good player. He's like guy support. Tom brady That's my guy. But regardless i think this year in college basketball it was. You know the brady bella check of. This season was coach k. Or the crazies and you know atmosphere environment the fact that it's one hundred and fifteen degrees the fact that after you play on one side they come in and tighten your room for the second half. I think those types of things that you know usually happen at cameron. Indoor duda protocols are not happening this season. And i think it's understandable and i think that's why it's a blip coach k. Is gonna come back once. He gets the crazies back in the building. That's the real juice argument as we all know we know. It's tom brady. And we know it's the crazy so conversation over conversation Let's talk about other programs around the country. Which is something we don't really let's do it. We don't love to do it on this show. We would much rather talk about fulltime time but Let's do it uh so. I wonder framers this because we we did this exercise last year where we were talking about. We're trying to figure out which. How do we frame it. If you're a fan of of a program wh-which fan base is are happy. Yes fan bases are like. This season is awesome. I can't wait for march. Like i feel so good about my team because college basketball. You wanna make a comparison to the nfl. How about this comparison as well. It feels similar to college. Basketball fan of people similar to nfl in that most fan bases are miserable. S you win. You don't win by enough you win three in a row and you're like damn it but we lost because we look game. You know that game a few weeks back. We blew that. It's very hard to find. Fan bases that are like this is awesome and our team is awesome. And everything's going well and Maybe unless you're grand canyon only program. All the fans are excited. No matter the school you have no idea what what how many games they're look game. They're playing so we're going to have cats on to talk about his tears. He's the tier king. I have. I have my tears here and this is how this is how i teared it out. So my first year is ecstatic and these are the. These are the tears. Maybe i should have zagging. Baylor here's because gonzaga baylor obviously ecstatic tier and. It's not just that you're happy that this is a season. You are going to remember your beyond you are. You are my mind. The most ecstatic of ever seen a fan base and all my time being around college basketball is two thousand fifteen kentucky when they were up. Forty one seven on bryce alford. Ucla and chicago and watching those fans just like the way. They're hugging each other. Interacting halftime was just like they are in a state of nevada and they were all throughout that season. I went to another. I think i went to the game in the final game erupted. They beat florida or something. And then they're holding a shirt to say undefeated and like no one wanted to leave the arena. They're like this is this is. This is the pinnacle a fan of I feel like in zagging. Baylor are feeling that right now right. That would be a fair thing to say. They need their own tier. Because because then i also threw in the ecstatic here michigan ohio state illinois. Feel like those three michigan fans are on cloud nine right now. Even though there are teams playing and they can't be talked out of it either have fully bought in which i respect. I liked the michigan even if emissions. Here's here's where you rive ecstatic mode. Is that even if even if haters coming at you. You don't care and the argument to make up for why this may be sure that made so we brought up the quad one wins. I'm sure michigan fans are at home and like we have four wins and we should have five but we got this gay moved and data. But i don't think here. I think they're just like we're having a good time. We're this is. This has been a great season. Hundred dickinson's awesome. Franz wagner is is our best player but he's actually like our third best player but he's our. It's unbelievable how how good our team has been so far. I'm to the point. That ila fangio throwing grenades and michigan senior dodging us. We're supposed to play thursday night. You're women's team. Play you guys were quarantine at the exact same amount of time. You've had no positive test. Why can't the team play. You're dodging us. That's what fans they knew it. Michigan fan say who cares. We don't care we're having we're having a great season we're having a ton of fun. I think ohio state. And isn't that boat and i speak from my experience. I don't know if all house defense feel the same way This this t we care bus with lost andrea. Listen seth towns. I was told Might not even play all season. Because he's had these injury problems he's been awesome and the team has been great and we're looking at this. Look at kalayaan. Look at that face. How young is is like sneakily. He's gonna make an all american team. It's not going to be. I m all american. Bj perfectly third team all american and yes so it's all gravy for house day right now. They're going to rip my heart out. They're going to find a way to to. They are going to my heart out. And i know that but It's i would say right now on february eleventh. i'm ecstatic. So i put them there and then illinois think We we were talking about this that they dipped down but they've kind of come back and illinois fans are probably the most ecstatic right now. Because i think that they had a lull and they had a period of time where maybe they lost. Hope you know. Maybe they thought this wasn't the year. Even though i thought it was going to be the year and then coffey coburn was really the one. I think that kinda turned it on these big emphatic. Dunks these powerful messages on the floor. I know a lot of people you know. The analytics people will say. Momentum does not exist. Coffee coburn did something he brought some spark of this team and then i always been as we both know. One of the best guards in the country is in consideration for national player of the year at this point. And it's beyond me that he's six foot five. He looks the part of an nba player. Yet he's not listed as a potential lottery pick but that's besides the point but illinois fans right. Now they're saying this is. This is good this what we they love andre bella to Which is hilarious. How excited you could. We put out our list of the best freshman. The freshman we like and fans are coming under next. and so. That's another sense of just like kinda contradicting myself. About how i just said. They don't care about the haters. But i don't know it feels different. It feels like when things are going. Well you just feel like the illinois fans are ecstatic. They're very happy. Because as you said it felt like the wheels were fallen off. The wheels have been put back on. The wheels are falling off. They were just changing their tires. That's the to change deniers. Alright so my happy teams. These are the fan bases. I think are pretty pretty happy. I have alabama. I think. I think you have to say alabama loss to missouri that the dream of a perfect. Sec season is dead but you know they. This is a team that was unranked for most of the season then suddenly got hot and unlocked something. And i guess it was just They they make shots that was that was an everything started clicking and they start knocking off teams and suddenly you look up and you and i have a conversation about it. Can't alabama around the table and sec and Do they deserve to be in consideration for a one c all this kind of stuff. Cool down a little bit. But there's not an alabama basketball fan on earth. That's like. I'm not pleased with losing a bizarre. You're like we they They lost oklahoma. I knew they had another law oklahoma missouri recently. So like it's not. They don't have the a ton momentum that they had a couple of weeks ago but If you're not obama you're still happy with where things right right and you know we always look vegas with these types of things and fox bet their odds or the exact same plus seventeen hundred illinois so i think we were just talking about a team. That's ecstatic you know. But vegas says that illinois alabama same basically the same level to win a champion so the alabama. The perspective for alabama fans might not even be about this season. it's like the pro nato chair. Yeah yes program. Momentum that's being built so you're happy if you're in alabama fan for sure unless you're in alabama football fan because it's very hard to keep both at the time point and if alabama basketball gets good too soon if they fly too close to the sun something you and i love to talk about on this program if they do a nicholas the nick sabin better watch out because there is a there's a sliding scale there as soon as basketball good who knows what happens to football other teams has happy oklahoma. Certainly pick six to fix to finish six in the big twelve. You can argue there. The second best big dwelt team. I don't think they are. I think west. Virginia probably is but At least right now. It's ten thousand to win the championship. Those are ridiculous odds for oklahoma. A very good yes. Plus ten thousand according fox bet so explain this to me if i bet one hundred dollars win ten thousand yes i think something like Yeah zeros for me. Oh my god. That's pretty disrespectful. Be honest i mean think about it. Yeah but oklahoma fans are happy. They they they the same shoes the miami syracuse the same as providence. Same as washington. The same she did the same as utah. Your line. i'm serious oklahoma. Fox bet deco. What are what are you go. None of those teams are making the tournament. Whoo bad right longchamps launch into the final four. before by the way oklahoma's happy they've got four top. Ten wins three in a row point. Their their their families had one point. America cohen said. They're a good team. Usc is on my list as well and fifteen at three just absolutely destroyed. Ucla and the big showed out on saturday. The the la showdown for first place. So now they're tied for first place. But usc has the tiebreaker in the biggest rivalry bass. John ross dean. He said it was the best rabbit. I know oh my god just wasn't also evan moberly who i cannot sing his praises enough and every time you get in front of microphones i wanna talk about moberly I think he's going to be first. American and i looked at today because i was interested. When's the last time you had a first team. All american nineteen ninety-two minor. Wow been a while so if you're ucla basketball news jordan. You're excited i knew jordan. I have west virginia as a happy team. Just whip texas tech They gave zagayev gonzaga's best game of the year. People forget that that west. Virginia in the eyes of some hong with gonzaga. A little bit even though that was more like about jalen slugs maybe exploding his achilles and the not but I don't know what west virginia's good they're have their fun team to watch and also just in general if you're west virginia fan not that you didn't love press virginia because you're von carter's like a legend and that era of west virginia basketball's awesome. But you gotta love an offensive minded team I mean you're not gonna find a west. Virginia fans going to say anything bad about press virginia but deep down they know that like watching miles. Mcbride and company get buckets is a little bit more fun than just like helter skelter all over the place forcing turnovers try to win rock fights and it's kind of good because they got over you know she leaves and goes to kentucky that lose big. Oh and you know that could be a bad sign for the program but ever since that happened. It seems like things are going well for west. Virginia and bob huggins have turned up through some of these. I've texas tech is as i think tech fans are happy. They just get swept by west. Virginia crispier got tossed which was amazing. Amazing yes way to go out huggins on his way out but but texas tech is again if if we're talking like program momentum texas tech hasn't gone and they're good the chris beard is is A guy who has long omega mack. Mclarty has been awesome. I it's not a joke like we're not. We're not doing an caruso with him. He really is playing really he. He's been amazing. And the programs awesome. And i think if you're a texas tech fan given that people forget the finishing runner up lost virginia overtime in the last national game. We saw And they're they're they gotta go so they're fine. I mean it's the season. They sometimes played of their competition. This particular team. But i think if you're texas tech fans you're like i'm happy enough. I'm not panicking. I'm not chris beard figured it out. He talked to some pr guy this summer and he's created the fireside chats. You know where he has people on and they have real conversations that you wouldn't hear anywhere else and you know he goes and gets teed up in a very emphatic. Electric very showman way And that's what college basketball needs. That's what it's always been about. It's always been about characters and chris. Beard is one of those guys that he's an old soul he gets that so you and i. We watched that are the original name of our show. Was teed up guys. Like rasheed. Wallace that make a show out of saying i'm right the ball. Don't lie and you're gonna hear about it. Bob knight thrown a chairman chris. Beard looks like a guy who's going to throw a chair at some point That moment in time. That's nap shot. It felt great. Sexist a plus three thousand to win the title three thousand one plus three thousand same as your ohio state. Buckeyes by the way plus. Yeah i saw that. Fox bet no respect for day which is actually good i i. I'm not mad at all. Actually put money on how state and win more money when we when the title which is definitely going to happen. Texas tech is good enough to make the final four. And i think if you're a texas tech fan that's all you really want to know that we're going to have to make the fodder for i trust crispier. Whether happens or not against get spyro. Virginia tech. I would say they're happy. They they fourteen and four. The the the the villanova beat virginia. They're also blown out by syracuse and penn state. So it's not like. I don't think any virginia tech fans saying we're the best team. Acc or yeah. This feels like a final four team be given the context of that program and a again like referred to stock and big picture program. I every virginia tech is happy especially when you beat virginia. That's gotta be you own your mike young when they lost buzz williams. If buzz was a part of the tony bennett like next class of. Acc top coaches. That was getting groomed to come in behind roy and coach k. Like brownell is probably in that group as well and when he left there. Was this weird. Wait a second so the acc is not as good as the way what. That's not what you do. And the fact that mike young came from wofford a small school and is able to create a culture of all bought in. There are fun team to watch. They're very tough to play. Nobody wants to play. Virginia tech. Not saying virginia tech is gonna win a national championship this year. Now saying they're gonna make a run to the final four but that is a sweet sixteen type team. You know which is for virginia tech fans. It's yes yes so. Mike mike young has they hit the panic button when buzz left. Yeah mike youngest say they have taken their hand off this or november. By the way not anymore we took it away from them right because he's winning. Now your name. We figure i would throw purdue in the mix of very they they lost. Tonight we're recording this thursday night. They just lost to Minnesota's i set of close game plus eight to win the championship. Purdue save your money Don't don't purdue championship. Save it for dave giving and give it to the school. I love zaki. D by the way so purdue fans arab said that he wasn't on our list we were trying to put like the. You know the i team off freshman list. We can't produce fans literally wanted all four the fresh. You wanna put day rancher. You don't i mean. But i think pretty fans are pretty happy with how the seasons going. They're very very. They have no seniors on the team. They they play four freshmen They would like to mention that they swept ohio state. But you know again. We have disregard that we neither game. We have your vote. They've won six nine to the spirit of fans. I think are happy with with how the seasons going on then the other two i had on my happy to is a rutgers who little up and down season but again talking talking about of rutgers basketball. They are definitely good team. They are one hundred percent in the tournament. They've been ranked for most of the season. That's that's a win. Rutgers fans are happy yup and then sister jean loyal chicago. Oh my gosh. They're happy drake loss. They're they're playing coming up actually the loyal drake showdown for the missouri valley crown. But no i p people are now talking about. Loyola might be better than they were when they went to the final four eight people people are saying people. You mean. cameron crowe wigs on the team. And he i think you talked to matt norlander and said that you know he. Basically is a big time performer. You know there's a lot of guys in basketball. He shows up in the big game so quote undesired of something like that. Yes i am the new jordan. I can't remember exactly what people he didn't say. That mr gene. Though i mean she's locked in loyola's one of those teams where it just it would make sense that they make a sweet sixteen run or something like that. So sister memes. She's back she'll never leave always beer. I think those are all the happy i had. I had this year. Which i called the just wake me up on. Its march yup. There they don't really feel anything they're like. I mean yeah. Just wake me. I don't know just give me the march. I don't really care wisconsin. Wisconsin is number one visconti tournaments could take some pivotal charges. Wisconsin fans are like. I mean we're not as good as i thought we were but also like we got a chance in every day. Got a chance in every game. We could lose the next five. I'm not that man. We could win the next five. I'm not getting that excited. Just get to march the next one. This is i florida state. Four on my list for florida state is plus twenty five hundred to win it all. That's another team to look at is on the list. Exact same thing as wisconsin. Just like i don't know just to march is looking at leonard hamilton. He's like can i start. Healy put lavar ball. Quote michael jordan off the bench and he just shows it deliver napleton. Ooh i like this. You've got to so far florida state. I was just going through Virginia virginia the tournament. Let me show you that. We're for real. I don't need to when they see again. I don't care we do it every year. it's boring. We already won the national march. That's the only time. I feel alive charge. Yeah that's it yes. I'm dead inside. Because i have experienced both extreme last one going for before. This is amazing. The yukon huskies. No but all the reason i did for you kind of list is because you might not be an attorney. I think you've got has worked to. I between now. If you're the selection committee when you see james book nights return his imminent you. Save book that we're putting you the term. You can't good. It's just that as it stands right. Now i i'm not if i'm yukon fan. I'm not exactly confident that we're in tournament today so i wouldn't put you in. The last one is a big team in. You should note villanova villanova. Yeah that was my. That was the one i wanted to go with. But i'm also the villanova likes just kind of just dominating in the big east like over here. You know they just enjoy it. I have so it's hard for me to tell where they are where they really. You want to titles and you win the big east. I think they're just like they had the long pause or killed all the momentum still like they come back and now villanova fans. If i'm villanova phantom lake like cool we're back but also i don't care anymore stupid. Xavier hasn't played a game like five months. And they're in the big east hunt as well. But the rest of the big east is like the not bad per se but also the whole big east feels like they're on the bubble all saint john's providence. Is i'll probably on the wrong side. Now so i think villanova fans are probably just as fast forward. Let's just get to march. And i think villanova like mark few said last week. Dave the best Win of the season road against a fully healthy hot texas team. And you know that win in. My mind has kind of carried them through the year so they just want to get the tournament play the top team texas another team that they just want to just basically endure they want to endure the rest of the regular season and then hope when when the lights turn on that matt coleman and ramey and greg brown and kaya jones and sims those guys just get going again so i'm gonna rip through these four real quick. We don't need to talk about it because we talk about a lot on the show This year's called the we definitely are great. But i don't think we suck as bad as everyone thinks do And glimpsing for the four ad on that were ucla louisville yes north carolina north carolina for sure. Those are my four. I won't even talk about north carolina. Because i talk about them enough louisville as a team. That is getting a little bit disrespected. I feel like especially in the acc tobacco. Let's get him on. Because i mean david. Johnston is going to be a first round draft pick. We've carl jones has been great and You know it was obviously a contender. Frac- player of the year as well. So that team back court. They're going to be fun to watch in march so don't sleep on louisville as much as we don't talk about them there. That's that's perfect for that. We definitely aren't great. But i don't think we suck as bad as everyone that's louisville aiding can't So we're getting closer to the panic button for me. This year is called. I'm doing my best to put on a brave face but deep down i think we might suck panicking yet. like i'm still on the outside not panicking but deep down lake. Do we suck. We might suck yes Houston is the top of that list. Houston we have a problem problem. You've lost to east there. Seventeen into they beat over there too. Good what texas tech and and did they beat. Byu early in the season. I think they feel like everyone. Beat me while usc spoke. We love you marto. They lost to east carolina in tulsa though in for for me eight dodge gonzaga. That was the real issue for me was a big issue for indicates. He says he said on her show many times. I will allow you to lose one conference game like that's the this has under college. Basketball shrugged his shoulders. You cannot lose. East carolina toll. Caesar bad t- tulsa is not as bad as east. Carolina is dreadful houston lost east carolina as so bad and it was so far fetched that they would win that game that their players said it was the greatest upset in history So houston we. We can move along from them. Missouri i have on the list is put on the missouri fans brave. They've been down this road before. This is the life of missouri basketball fan. Zero final fours in program history. They live through the frank haith years. They lived through the quin snyder years when they he made them believe only to win. Got him almost there. Yeah he got. He gave he got them tick he got up close enough to care rip their heart out and i know missouri fans like i still believe in this team. We are good but also. They're saying that through clenched teeth. They're like a don't like will. This has gone that we just lost all this. I don't like that at all also. I'm going to stick in the sec. Another team tennessee as a team. That's not panicking. Definitely panic yeah. We're not panicking but it. Also if i'm a tennessee. Fan and Someone told me they just came back from the future and my team lost in the second round because he scored forty four points in a six percents. Three game or something. I'd be like. Yeah that sounds about right. Tennessee is very confounding because they had these two post players in ponds and volkersen where they are. The primary focus of their entire. Offense is to feed the post. Feed these guys you know. Get them going focus in you know one of my favorite players. I love getting fucked up and he killed kentucky last year and usually did is entire career there but their guards young guards are so good it does feel like at some point. Unleash this team. They feel like they're two teams coexisting. It's like you got the old guard of the team that was around for scofield and grant williams and then you've got the new fresh faces the the the three stars in the four stars that got you the ability to get these five star guy exactly those guys get out of the five. Give us the key. As north carolina's garrison brooks get outta my face. So yeah tennessee fans i. they're not panicking but they're also saying i'm not panicking a bunch. They have an identity issue right now. So what are crayton's on the list. I think that's self explanatory. The if you've watched creedon play you not even just this year in the last fifteen years oklahoma state. I'm putting on the list swept by. Tcu we are on the oklahoma state bandwagon. But at the same time we love kate. I trust cade. I like the idea that they can. You don't make some noise in march. But you know if you really if you told me to close my eyes and see what i see for this team. I see an eight nine loss. You know whether they eight seed and they lose and we're all just so annoyed because we didn't even get to see cake. cutting employees. see trae young losing in first grade. He plays well. It's like may we're going to get over over. And then i had two other ones san diego state they. They're kind of hot right now in the sense that they have won five straight they're blowing people out games by what was i saw. Cb on fox tweeted the staff. Did the five straight conference wins by twenty five plus points which is something that has happened in any conference since like nineteen ninety nine or something but then you look at like who. They're actually playing. It's like oh my god stats from now. We say it since one thousand nine hundred Their best win was ucla to open the season and the only other tournament team. The only team. That team are going to sniff the tournament that the v since then since the first game of the season is colorado state. They've just been beating up on the bottom of the mountain west and they have as the coming up how they have a decent part of the schedule. So we'll see what happens. But right now san diego state i if i'm a senior state family we'll see we'll see the last one is drake drake is. It's not just that they lost a valpo. Valpo is bad they They a couple of weeks ago. They're taken over time by state who socks. They had to come from behind. Beat valpo the first time. They played them then. They played a couple nights later. Maybe it was the next night. And that's when they lose. They didn't just lose. They lost by seventeen. I don't i think every finn was just like it's cool to be undefeated but now we've lost like we went over against illinois state and kind of felt like it. Was you know. They realized their undefeated. They're thinking about it. So you kinda give him a pass. The next game they come out they play illinois state again they blow them out three sixty dunk. So you say hey yep. Drake seems like they've gotten over the hump and then you know they kind of really hit the real roadblock and we're officially off drake no more god's plan all right this is a we we've arrived. This is full blown panic town these. This is my t of teams. That are full blown panicking. I have you said this is a team that just wants to get to the tournament. I have them as a full blown. Panic team The texas longhorns They have they have lost three zero and four or five heading into their game that they had on the kansas state. They what was it. They that had since they can kansas by twenty-five infield house on january second date. We remember that game historic loss for kansas in allen fieldhouse texas is four and four and their wins are six point win over iowa state at home who was state is abysmal there to win still our swat teams. There's only teams that iowa state has beaten this year. The two point went it west virginia when they needed the miracle shot for major jones to win. They've they beat. Kansas state by fifty at and then they just be kansas state on tuesday by three in kansas. State is not a good basketball team. So those those are the only ones that texas has had. They've had covert issues. They they've had not just for shock a smart. But they've had starters out and you know it affects people differently not just physically but mentally. You know as we've talked about many times something come back and are playing better teams. Other teams are clemson and they suck when they come back from pause. So i don't know what's going on but if i'm a texas fan i do not like what i've seen given that i don't know a month ago. We were talking about texas is maybe you're doing yes. Being in there with gonzaga baylor there was a moment in time where it didn't seem farfetched thing maybe texas competes with baylor for twelve. Yeah and now. That's incredulous to say. Yeah so. Texas is definitely on the list. I'm throwing on iowa on the list. Full blown panic are. Do you agree with this. I think that iowa in texas or both two teams that to begin if you ask me in november in a november december. I would've probably be willing to bet you know hundred dollars. Dan say they're going to make the final four. Yeah i really like these two teams. I think they have what it takes. So it's really hard for me to take the full turn in the full pivot and say i m off with these teams are. I think that they don't have a real shot. Because i do think it's all there and they can turn it on. It's hard to to match up with lou garza. It's hard to match up with the shooting and the offense of iowa but it. Also we've seen the show before with iowa and that's what's terrifying in the mart february friend who really burst onto the scene in two thousand sixteen when i was ranked fourth and then the wheels just completely fell off jeered utah senior year. I'm here in the tough part with mccaffrey. And that team and the expectations that surround having a national player of the year is if you go to the tournament and you lose in the sweet sixteen yep the fallout from that can be catastrophic because kevin durant. I'll never his reputation never recovered in austin now. Everyone thinks he's a coach. So i'm pretty iowa they they. They beat rutgers wednesday but they lost four or five before that swept by indiana again. It's not. I was not a bad basketball team. But i think expectation for i was found. It was kind of final four buses and feeling like it's going to be bust. So i'm hitting the panic button. I'm throwing clemson on the list. They've kind of come back. I know they be carolina. I know they'd be syracuse but is that. Is that really enough. That the the rest of clemson schedule is garbage. It's all the wake forest georgia tech pit notre dame miami. I think like those. Those are the only teams they have left in the regular season. If i'm if i'm a clemson fan i've already hit the panic button and that's what it is. I'm not hitting the painting bug today. I hit it a couple of weeks ago. And i'm not taking it off. Just because we beat carolina in syracuse. Just because we beat to bubble teams. I'm not saying great now. We're a good spot. Yeah they seem very high on their defense. They know i've heard some clemson fans compare themselves to virginia's defense. I think that might be a little. you know. there's a lot of bravado behind that. And i like the idea of clemson being a defensive team a tough team tough out in the tournament i see that brownell is a good coach in i like amir sims. I think he's a great. You know senior leader for this team kind of sets the tone for them but you know there is a ceiling there. Yeah we all see the ceiling but Brownell and man. I mean they're mccaffrey. Both in the same spot to be honest with you where the fan base is at the point where they expect the next echelon to roast and that's never flown when you talk about hot seats and he's not even that you're bad or the teams bad or going to the sweet sixteen is bad. It's just that somehow the preconceived notion has outgrown the reality of the situation. And that's not fun. Because i get fired. That's how you mutually par ways. That's actually let go your In a mutual decision. I had minnesota as a panic button team but they just beat purdue but still it was in. The bars doesn't count minnesota. The panic button is that they're still owen six away from home and they just lost a rutgers last week with the a close game is what i meant to say. They lost a record. Four point game or something but other than that game last week do the other five games. They've played away from home. they've lost by double digits. They are absolute garbage away from home and that would consider the like probably still going to make the tournament. But if i'm a minnesota fan like who cares it's not played in the bar and so we're going to lose. The minnesota hit the panic button when the incident said the tournament was in the band button. And then i guess the last year i had was. I said it's labeled this buddy. I've been hitting the panic button. All year duke and michigan state syracuse. for read. On this i think if you're a syracuse fan. You know when buddy bay heim agree to go there you knew what was gonna you know. Think that's when you hit it. But i think you literally you through the panic. Button out the window when he ate a burger. The of that jeb. No jim buddy bay have separate thought he but you throw the panic button away when he would be. That would be breaking news. That would be a huge story. If i was picking his nose on. Tv that would be in my mind. The biggest story college basketball that he is father son that would be i would be like. Oh my god. This is amazing. That buddy behind is also just get behind household. They sit around and picked her nose. Need it. that's what they do you if your gym behind you have to have someone. Lets you know in your on camera. But i say that. I i will take from the syracuse moral human. I'm not look. I'm not judging anybody but i'm just saying that is. That man is a veteran like he knows. I am going to take more memories of jim. Boeheim on the bench than anything syracuse. Donald the court this year. Yes more more members of jim. I'm falling over the mask. He's wearing the noses picking man. That's that's how i see it. That's those are my. Those are my tears of. Was that a worthwhile exercise. We'll say though if you wanna keep someone from asking you why you're letting your son take all the shots that's something you do is gonna die after that they're gonna leave you alone like just want to talk to you about that so i wanted to ask you about buddy but now that you're talking about the king of diversion all. Let's talk to andy katz. Let's see how he sees tears. I have a feeling he didn't tear it out with a with the panic button. And i'm doing my best to put on a brave face but who knows eighty. Andy surprises us from time to time. Let's talk them and see what he says. Quick break to get a word from our sponsor discover any credit card offer cash back but only discover matches all the cash. 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But also i'm worried that maybe you're just overcompensating for what happened last week. What's going on. I am not as you know they have. The most wins with eight eight. I wanted this week was essentially tried to predict what the selection committee will do on saturday when they unveiled their top sixteen. So it's a nice number. Why not have four years of four and try to predict in each tier or essentially each seed which way the committee will go. So that's that's really what it is. It's not a. I get excited when i see that tier one has kansas baylor michigan and ohio state. But really all you're saying. Is that what you think. How states one seed. But they're not on the same tears. Gonzaga failure well. Yes if we were doing the last week one of gonzaga baylor and then. I would have a cheer to of ohio. State actually ahead of michigan. Even though they're not in the standings so have a little bit of mine in between you know a little separation but for these purposes. I wanted to try to do a little prediction here. We like predicting and at is tier one. Meaning of we'll. I'll flush it out for the listeners. Tier one you're once again. You're predicting this you absolving yourself of blame. You're you're not saying this is how you see it. You're saying this is how you think the committee's Gonzaga baylor michigan ohio. State is the one seeds illinois villanova virginia alabama as twos west virginia. I will oklahoma. Houston is threes missouri. Usc tennessee texas tech are the fours. And we're we're anticipating on saturday when committee releases us since we are talking about ohio state since we are talking about michigan. I want to me. I i noticed illinois's the i team that you have as a tier two two seed. My question would be this. Andy as you look at those three teams. How much do you think. The big ten standings matter in the in the sense that i'm getting very paranoid about the idea that michigan's not playing a lot of games right now and i'm not saying it's their fault but it's just the reality and i'm worried that michigan's going to go to just be the defacto big ten champion and then that's gonna give trump card over there. They're not gonna play illinois this year probably They're gonna play state wants so how much as were sussing out like which big ten team deserves. The one which one gets bumped down to the to do you think the regular season big ten standings are gonna matter. Is it going to be head to head. Is it going to be the full picture what he thinks. How do you think does august shakeout it. First of all. I think full picture secondly i will use your platform to say the big ten better make michigan illinois play like. That's more important game to make makeup then michigan nebraska michigan penn state or michigan northwestern. You gotta make up michigan illinois. That's number two number three Body work ohio state wins So i will not be some if ohio state if they if they continue this way If ohio state ultimately is ahead of michigan on the seed line. I won't be surprised at all and ultimately is what happens. Do you think there's a reason to release the top. Sixteen as going on saturday Other than just to give guys like you and i and tate Stuff to talk about the is there an actual practical. And and you're you're more source than we argue talked to coaches and and is there value in this do do they. Do they enjoy having this list. Or does it mean ultimately worthless and just gives us something to talk about. No i think it's well first of all it's a great exercise for the selection committee because invoices them to take a snapshot in time and really assess where everyone is you know. I don't have this memorized. But i wanna say the historically and say historically i think it has been going on that long when over the last few years I'm pretty sure it's been around anywhere from ten. To twelve of the sixteen that were unveiled in february ended up being in the top sixteen on selection sunday. So it's it's been around. Three fourths have been in that grouping. And i would say that based on what. We anticipate all very surprised. If the top eight that i read it off to you join end up in the top. Sixteen the second eight. I think they're definitely still could be some movement. You didn't bring this up. But i will. I really wrestled with texas. I texas tech. Because texas had a better overall texas tech beat them but then texas really struggled out of the gate from their paws and so i lean texas tech little right now. West virginia is playing well. Eileen their missouri was going to happen to your room. But after the lost ole miss on wednesday night which is pretty bad even the homeless is playing well but it was thumping i knock them down at your four in. Don't you think that's kind of where the line is right. It's like the houston missouri. Like we're not sure if they're going to take that leap into like being in a real contender. You know what i mean like. Oklahoma feels like a team. That's right there as well. I was a team that we all liked. And like you said. Texas at one point was a tier one contender and now they're not even the top sixteen. So there's there's been a lot of moving parts. Yeah i would throw. Usc in that grouping as well see both tennessee more. All the map usc now is the sort of the new team west. I mean to be. I would say right now the teams i have the most confidence in that will stay. Cheer one or seed one line and see to line to your to to me it's the first four. I rattled off so gonzaga. Baylor the michigan then. If you say to me okay to i'd say illinois and virginia those are the two of the most trust in. We'll be right in that neighborhood a month from now Remind remind listeners. With that i. I would agree with you. I don't. I don't have a problem with that. Think people were sleeping on virginia. At this point in illinois's a team that at the beginning of the year we all thought they were a national championship final four contender than we kinda threw away. And they're right there back. Yeah i always a out of his mind one wins. Yeah speaking of iowa plane out of his mind. I am hearing. Predictably tate night predicted. This would happen. That luca garza coming into the season was the national player. There is every once pick for national player. He as good as he was last year when he he maybe should have won it last year. We we liked. Ob top whatever. He's been even better this year. Andy he he is playing out of his mind and yet there's some sort of fatigue that goes on when you interest season you're like this guy is going to be the best player and he just continues to be the best player. I'll season we get to this point the season. We're like there's to be someone else right like we gotta. We gotta make this conversation interesting. I feel like. I would assume. I feel like jerry butler. These guys are playing at a level where we could throw them into a conversation and to talk it out so from your perspective and maybe i'll frame it this way. What feels more inevitable to you as we sit here on february eleventh recording this luca garza winning national player of the year or gonzaga the national championship. Wow that's a tough question. I would say garza winning it. Yeah obviously to single elimination. You never know what the thing that we cannot dismiss. And i think mark you're a great example to know someone experiencing could could speak to this. Which is because you were there with. Greg oden As dominant as luther can be. I don't think we can dismiss that. He is the opposing scout priority. Every single game double triple team so jolie's amp going off for. I think twenty six on wednesday against rutgers that only happens because of all the attention on garza and freeing up we've camp on the perimeter and so anytime we use camper bohannon. They go walk. It's because of all the attention on garza. And i mean he literally just gets beat up every game and yet he still produces anywhere from eighteen to thirty points. I think ours is going to win. I think he deserves it. But like you start you start refreshing. It's just like you. You can make a case for jerry. Butler is the best to player in. The country is teams undefeated. He doesn't have the luxury of say. A corey casper to jalen. David mitchell's good. I know macy's. He's got good players beside him but ours. It feels like we him from last year. I know that's what i'm saying. Like feels like a legacy thing that i could the numbers the other players guys that i think could have done it. But he and he's had obviously great moments but had keyed cunningham had a kevin durant like season legally the best player in the country. Then that would have been a really intriguing date. Okayed obviously is having a really good year. I think he's gonna probably edge jalen suggs for freshman of the year. But it's gonna be close but had kate cunningham had a durant like freshman year. That would have been very interesting to see what would happen between the two of them. What what about a very quick blueblood bubble watch. And i know you don't have the numbers in front of and you might not have given this much thought but maybe just talk from your gut and it just how it feels Say duke who is now has a losing record is seven and eight but as of saturday it felt like the duke carolina game was sort of a you know the winner on the right side of bubble the losers not. There's still a lot of a lot of basketball left to be played. Maybe duke michigan state is another team. That like you could maybe see. They have a lot of opportunities. Will say on the stairs. There's years path. If mr march can make an appearance there might be a path. And then i'll throw at you or you. Yeah i'm gonna make bowl sc tournament. They have the co but they do as of right now. Do kesselman the acc tournament. Don't think they have the talent to do that. I just don't see it. I don't think they can be hypothetically like florida state and virginia consecutively. Yeah just don't see it so i'm going to tell you right now. I don't think duke's in the tournament. I think kentucky could why they have been able to cross that threshold because they you know the sec's just not as deep league team and michigan state. I think if they were to go with just one against penn state so i kind of looked at their final ten that if they went six and four so now they've got the one so they go five and four or or Six and three in these nine games. Yeah michigan state has iowa coming up perdue illinois. Ohio state michigan indiana. Like the there. It's an absolute gauntlet. And the way they've been playing they're probably gonna lose them all. But you know anything could happen if michigan state wins although suddenly. We look up like wait mr marks. The team was dead or they're back now so all right that i'm satisfied. Thanks andy. you're the best we talk about. Good life a lot on this program and for good reason because good. Life makes high-quality essentials for modern living and believe the quality and fit of. Their t-shirts is unmatched provided a fresh. 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We took the break right literally. Twenty seconds ago in oregon is now favored by one. I don't know what that means. I'm not smart enough to. That's something so anyway. That's the back story on that because we're getting into the fraud. Power rankings as. I said if i am a fraud connoisseur i can spot a fraud from a mile away and we spent so much time talking about all the great things vote. I spent so much time talking about all the great things. The pac twelve has to offer some said. Nobody does more for practical basketball than i do. Thank you to those people who say that. But i figured the only way to be a credible journalist is also talk about the bad. And that's what i wanna do this week. The frog exactly so here. We go fraud. Power rankings pac twelve update number one on the fraud power rankings arizona state sun devils. And that's why it's important. I tell you this. Because arizona state may or may not beat oregon. Tonight you have people chirping at me saying how can they have a feeling. It was going to lose. I have a feeling they're gonna lose because they lose all the time that's what areas ought does there. They are number one on list because they were. There were very high. Expectations were picked. I think it was ucla in the zone state and they. They did the same thing as iowa. They they outgrew the shadow they cast and They weren't as talented as they thought. Remy martin was a preseason all american there currently six and eight head into this oregon game. They're writing a two game win streak over the bay teams. They beat stanford and they beat Cows so they're not all his loss but yeah they've been on a long covert pause. The this is their first game back tonight. So i don't know. As as the overarching sees the narrative of this year pactel masculine arizona. State is by far the biggest disappointment so they are number one number two on the list and making a strong strong strong push for number one. The boise state broncos who i rightfully called andy out when he was like boise state belongs in tier three or whatever was what on what grounds like they want thirteen zero. And then you start sussing out tate. They beat one team with a pulse on the they'd be. Byu as i said earlier in the everybody's beating somehow you is still good. I don't know how that works with notre dame where the two teams year that everyone's like. I got to win over them. You know how they they've lost. It feels like they've lost a thousand games and they're still like considered good and they're going to make the yeah. It's very strange. Boise state has now lost three or four. They just lost back to back games against nevada over the weekend. They are fourteen and four. They have still they. They are one of the top five teams in the picture of the mountain. West danaids boise state is in the top five. So therefore other teams as it stands. Right now boise. State is one and three against those other teams because they haven't even played utah state or san diego state. So what i'm saying is the record is artificially inflated they it was all meraj fraud steak aced the bronco number three on my list and again a very important context that they're playing tonight the oregon ducks so we have a fraud. Showdown lists yeah ten and four feels like they have a good season going But they they have lost three out of five heading into this game tonight. Including losses to washington state and oregon state which is not where we want to be they. Also they played five games away from home three and two in those five games and their only win seton hall utah and washington so they seen halls like the only team. They've beaten with a pulse outside of their home. Arena oregon. I don't know what the expert like they were. They were considered. We talked to dana almond before the season and he was like excited about the seasons. I like our team. We're going to be very good. We're going to compete for pac title. they were the team in the pack twelve. You know outside of la teams. People said like oregon but quite Number four on the list. the idaho vandals. Oh and fifteen tate Got a call them out for that. They are one of two on winless. Teams almo said undefeated the opposite of undefeated to winless teams in all of college basketball now. The missouri valley st delta devils. They won the other night. So they they got off the schneide and idaho and south carolina state or the two one teams so there. You go idaho frauds when a game. It's gotta be hard to pull her team that you know we're like we're evangelists. Yeah that's what we did is pretty. It's pretty sick nickname. Though the vandals it's like a rock band. Yeah like that's what it should be does. It doesn't lead to success on the court as it turns out. Okay i'm big fan. right now. is like vandals finally number five boy paint me to do this but don't do it. Don't do it better. Not be north carolina pepperdine way. Oh thank nine and eight ways who they're not. Having a bad season there are still in the mix to be the second best team in the wcc behind gonzaga. Just san francisco kessler edwards kobe. Ross or both playing very well. Second in assists i just picked. I had to put them on there because they took you silly to three overtimes early in the season they then give san diego state a good game and i come out of that that you remember the little pod set up a via serena. Ucla san diego state and pepper. I come out. I think it. Oh my god. Pepperdine is going to be fun to watch. They're going to be as an nba player nba players. They're gonzaga's conference. They're going to definitely be the team that can challenge gonzaga in the wc. They're nine and eight this year. They got absolutely smoked by cal. State bakersfield lost to cal. State northridge is not very good this year. Even though so there you have it that that's a pepper pepperdine. had to make the list. But i gotta say as we're recording this colorado is absolutely stopping stanford. And boy does it. Pay me to say it but stanford knocking on the door man stanford is knocking on the fraud door. Ever teen again the expectation was this the year we make the tournament. We assert ourselves and other team in the pack. Twelve be reckon with fire williams and potential. You know top ten top fifteen pick not quite san diego state. I had my eye on but again they they. They're hot right now but it feels very the mountain. West is bad dude. The mountain west is basically boise state and san diego state about the play coming up and one of them is going to be a fraud. I know that much. I feel like it's going to be boise state though so i left standing state off and then is there anyone else i guess. Ucla they got smoked by. I did not love that. Ucla has not been playing well lately. Usc is the team pac twelve. Yeah i think they are the only team. And i feel like we've gotten to the point with the pac twelve or we all know there's really only going to be one team every year they'll sleep on colorado colorado's coming on strong ish but also but also colorado we expect them to be pretty good some pieces coming back so there you have. Those are the fraud power. Twelve update pack twelve update also quite green at twenty three points and he against oregon on saturday the seventh game. He's not hit thirty s handsome shots. Closeouts shoutout to devante schuler. The man from old miss a man that zion williamson said quote unquote. He was something different. If you don't know devante schuler who is a senior on this program. We like seniors. Come from the dean. V dean smith coaching tree. Here we respect those who put in the work. Devante schuler during the off season. Said i wanna come back. I wanna make sure people know. I'm a pro basketball player. He's had five twenty point games on the season. He's sec player of the week and back in the day he played on a team called the south carolina hornets. It was an aa. You outfit down there and two other players that were on that team zion williamson john rant and on that team. He's two years older than those guys. He was the number one option and zion said he was the first player he had ever seen. Now we got lamelo ball close to my heart but apparently devante schuler was the first player he ever saw. Get a rebound pull from half court and just take a three and he said no one said a word did he make. Yeah yes. I don't know he didn't say that i assume he did. And anyways devante schuler if you haven't watched him They just blew a good time to tune in almost. If you like john moran zion williamson. You wanna have some sort of rooting interest. Devante shuler's the guide ole miss and also people. If you wanna talk about reasons to care about college basketball. You know who loves ole miss basketball more than anything morgan freeman. That's right yes. Forgotten loves old. Ole miss basketball in fact in february of last year when they beat mississippi state and routed them and had this great moment in time in february before covert happened. Morgan freeman was at that game. So i know. Morgan freeman was watching. Devante schuler upset missouri. And he was like this is a good day thoughts and prayers to the the the guy that was on a team with avantis. Schuler moran nine williamson. It's going to get asked about that every day for the rest of his life. Hey tell tell hey tell missy later. That's titus is life. Everybody wants to hear the story of the intel. It and then he tell it to them. They go all right got it. I wanna shout out. the howard bison perfect. Shut down their program unfortunately no. That's the good they were like turned the corner or something like that would adjustment on that one date with not perfect. The shut down the program for the season it was too much to overcome. They've had some covert issues. We had gone on the show. He was so excited to call. That game ended up. Getting canceled occur maker has been out for a long stretch. They they ended up going like one and four. I think on the season no eastern is not playing for them. He's turning pro now right. That's the store you're the nose eastern guy. He's turning pro and was he ever not turning. That's kind of a bummer overseas. Like i i can't remember a time when at hcc. You had as much hype as how which isn't to say people thought how we're going to go the final four this year but for the first time in a very long time. There is like a buzz around you. And unfortunately they're not going to capitalize on it. And the bbc you to watch not no disrespect to howard. Howard howard is the hugh in america is the harvard of hpc used to say the least north carolina. Lavelle moton his program. They're going to do Espn documentary that chris. Paul is putting together. Stephen smith is part of this. When i was at carolina when i was in school they used to play these pickup games in the summer. At central you'll get. nba players. Come back john. Wall would play in it. You know the list goes on. It was a lot of fun. Pj tucker those types of guys and lavelle is. i mean. he's best friends. And in great with roy williams he can sit in a lot of different. Rooms and central in. Durham is a program sleeping giants. That could be sleeping giant and Lavelle molin is a guy that should have gotten a chance at nc state. A lot of people thought and keith got hired. It should have been a moten. They got that job but mon didn't wanna leave his alma mater. He wanted to stay at central. So just saying that just putting out. I'm more of a north carolina. Yeah that's more. I've been to a game there rocks rock to have. Oh great time. It was amazing. Yeah it's so we. We should do that we should. We should set that up. We have gregory grade. Would love that too. Greg would love having us there. Three the three of us go to north carolina and give. That'd be so yes all right. That's the show. So you guys actually.

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Championship Monday

Courtside with Seth Greenberg

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Championship Monday

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I thought that it was interesting. I thought that Michigan state got overwhelmed by the Texas Tech defense thought that their -bility to make life miserable. Seh cash swinson their inability Michigan state to get any post ups because even in their switching Texas Tech out around in front of the gave backside help I thought they were absolutely phenomenal. You could take that game tape and and the game prior for Texas Tech probably any game. Tape and clip it out and you could have defensive clinic how hard they play. How connected they are. How they keep you on one side and pressure the basketball how they're switching is tight and connected, and they get up and denial. I thought they were phenomenal. Then Matt Mooney happened. But Matt moody happened for a while. Then the game was on the line. I thought that Chris beard called the number of the best player on his team and got him on a couple of pearls and made a big three Jerry Culver. But that game was really fascinating. Because you don't see Michigan state and a lot of ways get act tuft and get taken out the way, we saw them get taken out the other day the other game. Have you had to thing? Right. We're wanted. They're upset five minutes to go. Life is good. And I thought they put the brakes on and when they put the brakes on Bryce Brown happened Bryce Brown knocked down back to that threes. I think they were three four for seven from three point line in the last five minutes Auburn after being like four for twenty five or five twenty five early in the game. But you know, I thought Auburn. You forget about what happened at the end of the game. I thought you know, Auburn without aqui. Really did a terrific job. I thought the Andrea hunter without her KiKi, you know, in the second half. I jaggery hunter kind of impose his will on the game a little bit by you know, being more assertive. And you know, he's one of those guys you wanna see more assertive. But I thought it, you know, I may personally, I I think these games are. Well, played teams know exactly who they are. And how they're going to win. I think that you know, Virginia got chance to own a temple to game. And and in the end they made to incredible shots. And it's good to be Tony Bennett. You know, like like I like this. I know there's attention on the double dribble not double dribble, but man down for Kyle guy, rips three. And then Kyle guys gotta go shoot three free throws in front of literally the entire basketball world, and you could not be cooler in that situation. Then Kyle guy was it was incredible. And to me that was the story of the day. Look, I get it. You know, I thought it was absolutely file you can't throw your body into the body of shooter. Yeah. And a double dribble fine. They missed it. Go crazy, folks. Go crazy. But I just hate a guy just did something that I believe very very few human beings can do I believe that? I believe very few people have the stones to knock into three down one down for under pressure right corner. And then have the bigger stones to knock in three free throws at that time. I just don't I it just up stuff doesn't upset me. But it's just like what the hell. I mean. Let's celebrate the stuff that this guy did as opposed to. Let's stop with the nonsense. That's how I look at. I think first of all the first three, and they were down for the poised averaging you had 'cause I'm sitting here watching them bring it into the action quicker. They were never rushed his ability to Xiaofei can make that shot that three. But that was incredible. That was flat. Yes. The second one. His elevation on shot, and he was fouled. And my thing isn't my thing is at the miscall like here. Here's my thing. My thing is that my thing that I was born said about is after the game. I think the NCW needs to come out and JD Qazi come out and just own it, get it. Over with Bomani, where coaches are held accountable players are held accountable broadcast held accountable. The officials need to be held accountable. That's all nothing else. But in terms of Cal guy, and I found a great nugget yesterday. Great. This is good. This is actually this is even more than a full grown it. Do you know, I'm Macau guys grandma yesterday shoot? Kyle guy t shirt shared very, very nice nice. But family that his brother, but Kyle guys grandmother gave me this nugget. Do you know Tony beds middle name? Kyle die. Jeez. I might have known that actually guy. How about that? Tony bennett. What recruit a Kyle guy? And he was ebony guy Bennett. And then he went recruited Kyle. You don't get that anywhere. That's why this is the world rate is odd cats, but I agree with you guys ability step to live with the whole world had just get that time between making the first two and. And just step it up knocking out at three that was that was that was big time have you ever seen? Michigan state overwhelm like that zillion times overwhelmed. They were overwhelmed. They had absolutely no answer that kept setting that middle ball screen and all they did was switch. They being Texas Tech. Put a big guy didn't matter who was on them. He everybody can move their feet. Here's the one thing that I was absolutely stunned. I stunned by my brother, actually said, Dan, it seemed like there were six guys on the court for Texas Tech. When the ball went into the post. It was incredible. If you drove in the wrong spot Chris beard. Crispier learned a lot from coach night. There's sweats not stuff. But I'm not sure that a lot of people wanna give coach night credit, particularly in my world where I live in Indiana. But I'm not sure in the last how ever many years Bob Knight's teams ever played like crispier play. And truthfully. I'm not sure that I've seen many college basketball teams over the last ten years play the way crispier plays because nobody gets out in passing lanes. Anybody? Nobody really tries to pack line. A lot of ball screen different ways to play but manages aid. They keep the ball on the side. They don't over help. They have their head on with all the terms that we used to use with coach nine hundred years ago, and it is fantastic to watch. And I think you put it on Twitter. You know, here we are two different styles. And I love I love this championship game care with any little media Torp says I love this championship game. One style is keep the ball on the side. And the other style is field forced to ball into the mid. To well coached teams two teams that have really good players. If you don't like it. That's on you the hell with you. I agree with is. It's interesting. I felt Chris thinking they did interesting. They got around in front of the posts and double the post backside, and it sometimes just kicked the front guy out, and he rotated out to they seal down. They were so connected defensively. But yeah, this is a game of defense. This is a game of Pac line force it a little bit to the middle early help recover. Boom catas- keep it a front knows all that bad law. Bob. Aw against the team. That's going to try to keep you sideline influence you side on four she down to the bottom of the box. You know, when you keep it all on one side of the floor interchangeable like I thought cast Winston when they got a switch would would try to go make a play quick. But the problem is when he did the length and the swarming mentality of of the Texas Tech team is unbelievable. How about this though? How about crispier journey like he's so relatable? He's coaching for every single due to coach Juku every single do that that took a division three every single Dudek coach division to every single dude that he's a basketball lifer. He's relatable, he's genuine. He's emotional. He's passionate. He loves his players. You could see that. You could see they love back. He coaches hard. I've been like like this dudes journey is a thirty for thirty movie. So the other day, I'm doing a Dan Patrick show. Oh, and you got to go to a studio is it's a big it's on TV. It's a big deal kinda right? The L. I'm yeah. I'm finishing up the show. And I'm at the other end of where Dan's desk is an entrance and you kind of walk through the basketball court, and I come out of the door and there's Chris beard. He goes, hey, I just wanna say a low, blah, blah, blah, blah. We talk we talked for the law for a long time. And this is what I really liked about. Chris this is this is. Something I think is very cool. He had nobody with them. He he had s de that was upstairs, we went downstairs. My wife myself, Chris and one of the production assistance, like where's your entourage? Your coach coaches can never be by themselves. They always got to have fifteen guys with and he's like well I dis upstairs. But that's just because you know, he wanted to come to see the show because otherwise I'd just been here by myself. I very very cool. I do I I. Yeah. I just like the guys are, you know, Tony Bennett's the same thing. I was I was at mass with his with his uncle yesterday. And I saw him walking the streets yesterday. Guys, the greatest. Yeah. We were just talking about. He goes. Yeah. You know, he goes I remember the day. Tony was born dick Bennett, his dad came honking ended the into the driveway. We got a boy we've got a boy to clock in the morning and. I don't know just just two great guys coaching their brains out. No, you know, here's what I look at no recruiting stupidity. No parents acting like idiots. Just no press conferences, and it just guys man. No pun intended. But just guys coaching and guys balling in to me. It's awesome. To me. It's absolutely great to be. It's it's really good to ears view. I said it's too easy guys to reform. Yeah. Like, Tony, Tony? They went to championship. That'll be thirty thirty. Sure. But but like, Tony is stays true. To is. He doesn't really get bothered by what people think about how they play style of play race the pace recruits guys that fit system doesn't get caught up even with their successor changing who they're recruiting. It's guys that can play want to play in what they're doing. Chris Han, how the teams were put together are totally different. I mean, you think about to fifty you know, seniors. I mean, how do you go from air force to South Dakota to Lubbock? How do you go Tennessee in New York City Madison Square Garden, Saint John's Jamaica to Lubbock, and I think his experience in junior college and experience in division. Three in terms of putting team together quickly has enabled him to put this thing together quickly. I totally agree because he is not bothered by. I mean, I'll outwardly. He's not bothered by results. Relative to who's there. And who's not there? He just goes out and figures it out. Hey, we'll be back for more of our final four reaction. Of course are championship preview, but I I of word from vivid seats, we've all looked for seats. Whether it is different websites. Whether it is scalpers actually in Indiana scalping is legal and it's miserable. Experience to go through you pay far too much money for a seat that usually is not any good. So don't settle don't go to scalpers and lis- don't wait in lines. Shop for tickets to every game with the official ticket partner of ESPN is called vivid seats, and vivid seats, you can see your seats before you buy them. And they're back in this. I think is very important by hundred percent by guarantee you may have to find another way to spend your time besides waiting in line, but you'll be closer to the action than ever before head on over to vivid seats the law. Largest independent ticket. Marketplace around spend less time in a waiting room more time in the great seats of your choice. Don't just by any seat, get yourself a vivid seat. Hey, I gotta ask you a couple of things relative to tonight's game. Somebody asked me this. And I don't really know the answer. So you. Yes. So I'm going. I'm throwing up throwing if you're if you're Virginia. How do you tech? Texas Tech, Texas Tech. Yeah. How do you Tak them? 'cause you're not gonna change anything. You do. Let me let me ask you the better way. What did Virginia does is going to affect Texas texts defense? I think I actually think going to have a really hard time because I think that. On all that mover blocker stuff or side stuff. Whatever you wanna call it. It's a kind of a two man motion gain. I think that Texas Tex gonna keep them on one side and making really really hard from the first ball. So they can't get the ball centered. The Maccabi up to drive it to the middle to get that flare screen on the side that they get a lot in often ulcer switch to ball screen. I think when they get to that. I think you're gonna take the ball side post. What's it? They can move them a little bit. They're gonna take their ball side post and lift them all the way up behind the play drive at then from there have a guy behind and try to just add to what they do. Try to eat the crack or create some kind of weakside flare action. I think that's one of the things to try to do. I mean, they're gonna switch a lot of that a lot of down screen action and thrown it into Jack salt. That's what I'm saying. Right. So I think that the I think they will have a hard time because they don't have a lot of guys who can beat you off the bounce and that and that was the thing that I thought happened with Michigan state Michigan state if you've got the ball out of. Caches to say who else was gonna make a play. I thought that Michigan state for a minute or two little something going little something going throwing Lord. Yeah. The middle not on the side. Yeah. No, no, no. I know. And then all of a sudden that went away. And really there was there was nowhere to go. And I look at I look at Virginia. I do say this. I do say their ability to simply step up and knocking shots, regardless is going to be huge also say this Virginia defensively against Texas Tech. There were two points in that game. Where Texas Tech was got awful offense where they were throwing shots where they got totally discombobulated against Michigan state. And I gotta believe if you're sitting there watching film and your Tony Bennett and his staff. That's that's where you wanna get Texas A and M. I don't know exactly why it happened. But it did. And it allowed it allowed Michigan state to get back into the game at halftime. But and make a run in the second. Yeah. And make a run in the second half. Yes. So to me since Texas Tech did that that means you can get them to do that again. And if you're Virginia, I think the way you do it is just simply being solid and don't let anybody get past. You just don't let anybody get past. You seems that. Mooney. My thing for Texas Tech is real simple run your motion. But don't run you motions. You jump shots. Rodney strive to to get curls second side drives. So you're forcing some covers very good good. Carlos the you know, he is a good job of bump it back and then step down and getting a rescreen and curling. I think he can throw that pocket pass. I don't know about you ask you can finish. I think they'll try to force audience to finish. But I think that you try to create outfits at your defense. Don't defend us rep keep it on one side be really early swarmed all the stuff that they do. I mean, like here's the deal they allegedly forced to turn over twenty three percent of their possessions. All right Virginia turns it over about. I think eleven Senator who is that battles can be. It'll be interesting analytically. But I just think the bigger thing is which defense can really impose. Will we like Virginia? If Texas that keeps that ball more on one side and disrupts the rhythm of the move of blocker stuff. Then Virginia's gonna go to their boss Crete stuff. Virginia goes to the ball soccer stuff. They're getting they're getting they're not beating his team going to that ball screen stuff. They do because they really don't score they end up into ball at three quarter court with Kyle with tightrope shooting a deep three. That's what they end up when they get. I think you know, the other thing that I really like about both of these teams Seth, and I really didn't feel like either team change anything about the way they played like, I didn't think anybody that the moment was too big the, you know, all the stuff that we make a big deal about the size of the gym for shooting the ball that kind of thing. I didn't think either team was affected by any of that kind of stuff. I really did. And I just felt like these are these are older teams as we've talked about these are tough teams as we've talked about these incredibly well coached by level headed guys. And I didn't. And I think the same thing in the championship game. I in -ticipant neither of these guys are neither of these teams being influenced by the circumstances. Do you or do you think they'll be some jitters from from someone? Here's the deal. I don't I don't think they're just for someone because I don't think there were jitters from the coaches, right, right? I think those guys will just like they were playing ball seventy two thousand people. All right. You know? I I I'm different than other people. Maybe maybe I'm I'm an idiot. I think once the ball goes up like dudes are playing ball. I mean, like older got these are older guys ball goes up in the air. Let's play. I mean, there's more people screaming and yelling at I mean like every time these guys plates at anyway, they play in places that are packed every night. So it's more packed. They plan on national TV every night. So it's more. I mean, you got grown men out of here. I mean, you know, I mean, I to me it was like I got a kick out of you know, we talk on game day. Well, you know, the inexperience of the of the coaches mummy, and my made Chris veered coached for you know, out of a car ABA, the South Carolina worries twenty nine into I mean, he coached it seminal state. You know, you know, I mean like I mean, like he drove him, you know, van in a bus at McDonald's and thought it was a four course meal because he got a happy meal. I mean, you know, like these are just coaching her teams and players just playing, and you don't let I think both coaches are allowing players to enjoy the moment. But then when it's time to work work. That's that's my thing. I agree. Couple things that I heard this morning that I I'm just. Like what the hell? Would you have replay on that last possession where they did not call the double dribble now here? Here's my thing. I just have better fficials. Yeah. Can you have a one challenge in the last minute of the game or two minutes at a game? He has a last minute review. My my thing on the whole thing. Ficials just have to be careful. You know, if you want to reply hit a have won one challenge where you hit one button and it lasts two men. She at one challenge. I know you'd love it because you love when guys go to the monitor. But I mean, I see the foul is judgment, call the double dribble is a call. I mean, it, you know, it's it's not an interpretation. You know, you could fumble and pick it up. You can't fumble pick it up and dribble it all right? So look, and it said fortunately, people talk about my biggest my biggest thing is that the ficials right in line with the play. It was right in front of the trail official was right there. But even if you miss it, even if you miss it JD counts coming out and say, well, the one dot gonna comment on this. Why not want to come out and say, you know, what this zillion calls into game. But that moment of time. You know, though, you mentioned you ficials name. You know, we missed a foul, and we missed the double dribble. Obviously disappointed that happened. But you know, officials are human as well like if you made a bad decision at the end of the game that cost your team win you'd have to answer for it. Griot broadcaster the end of the Virginia game day Purdue game. The poor guy said I thought the game was over instead of game going overtime. He got killed on it. Well, then why wouldn't he fishes become? This morning. I think I heard Jay talking about the NBA rule of one file under two minutes as opposed to a team like for Jin or excuse me a team like, Aw. Yeah. Virginia who had fouls to give at the end or Auburn had house to give whatever it was. What is your style? Can I tell you my stance on it? My stance is right now, we have so people know we have to have that we have seven files if you have four files with a minute to go that means you got to files to give. And then the third file which is the seventh will make a one in one. Personally. I don't wanna go to the NBA rule because I like rewarding teams that have a little bit of discipline. I like rewarding team that doesn't fall. Like, we're ordering a team that keeps his hands off people moves their feet, and I think you do that. And I think that if you all of a sudden make everything equal in the last two minutes, and you're not you're giving eight more undisciplined team a better opportunity, and I personally don't like it. Your thoughts. Well, I think we continue trying to be able to never be gay. Gay. Like we want to put ourselves in that same category of being an NBA game. And that's great some people believe that we can agree to disagree or you know, whatever, but we're not the NBA. So like I need to go to twenty four second clock because they know it's not our job when preparing the players to play with recycle out. But you're talking about like, you know, thirty players every year. It's not our job to prepare them just to play the NBA's and short o'clock. It's not the one rule. I would like, and I just think I'm selfish because I think create greater finishes as advancing to basketball. The one thing you just said about the defense. This the thing that the determining factor in this game could be that Virginia defense without fouling greater than Texas Tech defensive felling. Totally agree took that that could be the difference in the game. When you look at teams that play well teams that play. Well, don't turn it over. And don't file, you know, the other thing about this. And I've always said this thing, I have a conversation. Maybe we've talked about it on an ongoing running text exchange with the GM of the colts. Chris Ballard about this about more teams lose games than they do win games. And you think about it? I know that you can call whatever you want you can say whatever you want. But man, if you don't file cow guy at the end of that game you win that game. I mean, you say whatever you want you win that game nine maybe he hits the shot. If you don't follow him. I don't know. But the. The thing. I like about these two teams they don't seem to beat themselves. I just don't Virginia being the number beat being the poster child for they do nothing to beat themselves. And ultimately, I'm gonna take Virginia in the game. Because I think personally I think that sells in a game like this. I think that wins in a game. Like this. I'm actually I agree. I mean, like, I know coach night you say stupid loses more than smart wins. Right. Isn't it wasn't right out? But anyway. It's interesting. I think that you know, and that's a good like, I think the fouling is a big thing in this game. I really think to either get into either team's benches. I it's a huge advance. A u you advance. Braxton could play a big role in this game for Virginia in ten minutes. He plays. The one guy that you're known talks. But I think two guys from junior. Like, I was picked I'm like. Like X, quote, unquote, not X factors. But guys if let's see how come again, I think d- key think-i Clark are bigness Cape de Keith day because you know, maybe, you know, as they're trying to keep he might be up to get to the glass. He might be up to, you know, get them in easy basket. He might a and then key Clark. Can he keep Matt Mony? I mean, you talk about the shock. Will key Clark is wells you precious bona does everything else like he's got a tough match-up. Batch of Matt Matt six nine wingspan madman. Matt Mooney, you know, a guy that that made big shots in that game. At who they end their motion. We'll post them up quick little back screen emotion and get into block or or get them on on on a downstream lifter big bigeye up a little bit back a guy down. I like like that's going to be that's going to be interesting. And then the other thing we haven't talked about this Trico it's going to be able to play. To size in a boot today. Everybody's in a boot. You Seth everybody. It used to be wrapping up. Now, you put a boot on it. If you want to bring on it. No put a boot on it baby. Anyway. Yeah. So set to me I agree with the following. I agree with the bench, and I agree with the Akita. But you know, who is really good in the middle of that game was de'andre hunter offensively. I thought he was very good in and you have been talking about de'andre hunter the entire year. I think this is a game for him. I really do. I think if you're gonna go beat somebody one on one Kyle guy shooting over them is one thing. But de'andre hunter doing it from the foul line down. I think is another thing. I do I think it's big always can't play. It's really big because they don't have the matchup for limited like Owens, and look they're gonna end up in some switches. Anyway. Yes. The overall size of Texas Tech is something that's a factor in this game just their overall size. I mean, like they, you know, they they're not switching with six foot guts. There's with their switch with six five six six long, armed guys. And that's what it's which is good. If you're a coach switches like you got to recruit to your recruits here, the defense like when I when I coached we we had six seven six seven wings. We had big point cards, and we did that for a reason. And we we had three wings or garden, and maybe a big I might be six eight. But the reason we wherever switches 'cause I know I used to call him. I just a joke. We need more medium sized guys. Medium-sized guys help you win games. And I think that those medium size guys could be the difference. In terms of how they defend Virginia. We'll be back with our final four reaction show and our national championship game preview in a minute slam jam maybe what do you do warm enough for the game? All the games, I watch even when I can't get tickets. It helps bring stadium. To ever watch. It. Daddy, doesn't again come on dick save it for the air. We've got a game and check out vivid seats. It's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the games you want to go to vivid seats for the wind baby. All right. When you go through the entire basketball season. And you look back on the whole thing. And we all love Duke, and then we all have aga-. And then we all have whatever is Texas Tech playing better basketball than anybody's played all year. They had the best tournament of anyone. Dominated tournament. They have they dominated the tournament like Comey, can you remember a team that has dominated the tournament the way they have. I mean, they'd be a Michigan team to everyone says was a great defensive team. And it had a chance to get off. It's the Michigan state. You know, who you know, let's face it pedigree and playing really well big Ted conference term champions. N m let let's be honest. Michigan state. I mean, how how they got here though, is no Lankford ward was out mcquaid was out in the middle. I mean. Who who had been who would have been very big in that game, by the way, he's type of guy that has toughness in ferocity and resilience probably could have been a good player in that game. But I mean they've had an incredible season. I hate when people say, well, you've been to eight final four zero one more on what I mean. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, and they should be celebrated for what they accomplished this year. But Texas Tech to me like you can't say Virginia's had a great run in the final four for domestic. Maybe. Five. Auburn Purdue was auburn's gotta be the best team they beat. But you're talking about the run to them playing Virginia night. They're not plight. If you say who's played better right now in this moment of time visi, easy, not even close, Texas Tech. The only reason I'm taking you as because they seem to never lose. Easy easy. Texas Tech's playing better in Virginia. Not even close. No like, I'm telling you. When you watch Texas Tech play. Econo- get the feeling the other team doesn't have a chance. Would you agree? Yeah. They've overwhelm their opponent. Absolutely overwhelmed their Ponant. It's it's it's undeniable how they they imposed what they're doing defensively on there and dominated them. They've dominated their opponent, basically. So like, I mean, if you're saying all right in this moment and thought who's playing better? It's not even a debate tip out. Perfect pass catch it finish. Seven six points. And whatever seconds a bump back side out of bounds. Get found on the three you'll push it up the four make it incredible three a really good player. Step into the line making two three to keep keeps hope alive. I mean, it's not even it's not even I mean, look Virginia's terrific. But they they they like Tony Bennett said the date advancers survive at its greatest. Yeah. So I mean, are they charmed is this is Tony Bennett the anti Jim Valvano, but having a Valvano rod? The anti. He is the anti he's. Yes. Well, Tony Bennett, America's greatest living human being. Yeah. I mean, I told you wear no time still look good kind of. Can I ask you a couple of bigger questions that you may not want to answer? But this is the world's greatest pot. I think you're gonna ask me about avenue and Duke. Yeah. I knew you ask that I was thinking to say we have to touch this don't we? I mean, if if I if we're all to believe that the recordings of Kurtis Townsend at Kansas saying, we all know the deal for Duke, or we all know the deal for Zayn Williamson, we all to believe then that he went to Duke for free. I mean, there's got or or is it like migraine? Berg was saying today. Perfectly legal. What's the problem NCWA says that it's violation which means that it's fraud, which means that it's in federal court, but really it's a victimless crime. Where do you stand on this? Well, first of all, I mean, I think here's the deal. I mean, if they're donate or giving money into what is it the one, oh, whatever it is. Van profit? That's how he would get away with. Here's here's I this guy. Why would he be saying this? He doesn't have factual things to back it up. Like, why would you? Why would you is this guy so wacky? And so ninety that he's going to be making these statements and not have proof to back where he is thirty. So he's supposedly thinks logically and in progression. And in order. So I mean, any of us shocked that that may be another shoe company would do vigorous just chameleon Dida step burn this shoe wars that we're trying to secure relationships. I mean, Marvin Bagley comes into same conversation. Marvin Bagley stat had had a contract with Nike as well. So I mean, so that's first and foremost, it's just that's the way it, here's my here's my problem with and everyone thinks I'm going to get I really don't care. They said, well, what's the big deal the bills because it's against? The big deal is if they're getting paid one hundred fifty thousand dollars to make sure they go to school ex a Nike school. It's an NC double violation and diskettes drills for all the guys that are not having someone do the same thing for them. It says nothing to do with all the players deserve more. That's fine. That's great. And when roles change they should be given more. But while the rules the way they are that everyone should be working under the same rules. And you know, look do gets great players do close got great players. Well, I don't know. I mean, you got Lance Thomas, and that's. Relation. You got the right way back with Avery in always to Kansas City. Yeah. Now what he was from Chicago. But he played for Kansas City. Hey, you teams. Yes. Magaji? So I mean like, I mean, here's the deal. I'm not pointing fingers I don't have the formation. But let's not put our head in the sand and act like nothing has happened. Because if this if nothing's happened. This guy's just like throwing haymakers. He really is crazy. But I can't imagine him saying this stuff unless there's Blidi too, right? I looked. All right. Is it wrong? Is it wrong for you mentioned Marvin Bagley Zayn Williamson? He was in the Washington Post. I believe Romeo length for one hundred thousand dollars from Adidas to his dad is a U program. Is that wrong? It's a way to do it legally. Right. Right. So you ever finds lives in grey or so you could do it legally. Until they change the rules, or whatever, then, you know. Is it wrong? It's business. And I I think shoe companies are trying to develop relationships to find the next Michael Jordan to find the next Brian James to find the next penny. Hardaway, whomever, it is because let's face it. The basketball. Market is a very very small market. I mean, this you are making money on who makes money in and shoot. Lebron? Maybe koby. Who who else sells you big guys don't sell shoes? But what do you? What do you mean? Like, what are does fire? I mean, that's just the way it is. Now is it writers wrong? If they can do it legally within the rules. I'm all for it. They're they're the shoe company's doing and say, we'll do this for you. But we wanna go you to go to school ex that then then it becomes a little bit different to me. Yeah. We saw if I got a standing, and then my my. Self worth or whatever is going to, you know, I'm gonna go to heaven based on giving a kid money who needs money. That's not a bad thing. I'm a little torn on it. If you wanna know the truth Seth, I don't know that it's necessarily awful for somebody give somebody money. But here's here's my deal. And here's where I just I don't like it. I quit a little bit. Seth I quite a little bit to steroid use in this vein back when when everybody was quota everybody was using steroids. Everybody wasn't using steroids and the guys that didn't use steroids. Guess what they got? They got the boot they got they got nothing. They're back home selling insurance in their hometown. The guys that did use steroids. Get the big contracts guys did use steroids. Got you know, the fame hall of fame even some of them because it hasn't been proven. It's kinda the same thing in college basketball. If you don't involve yourself in nonsense, if you don't involve if you feel that, hey, look a hundred thousand dollars to a kid from shoe. Isn't what I want to be involved and you get punished for that. And that's why that's why I really love this final four because at least to this point. I don't feel like Tony Bennett. And I don't I don't feel like. You know, Chris beard are involved in that stuff. And I like that if that makes me a bad guy that it makes me a bad guy. If that makes me anti whatever that it does. But. I just don't like if you don't participate in something that is either against the rules or skirting the rules ear a lot of guys have been fired because they won't Cheech flee. I mean. I don't know. I don't know. I just I don't like that element of it Seth I'm all about helping kids and helping families, but I'm not all about buying. See I think is the difference in my opinion between helping a kid and buying a kid. And I think when you flat just by the kid to get a kid to come to your school or having someone by him for you. It's surely a big difference. Because to me that's intent. It's not being the the the intent to get a reward and not being the intent just hopefully a person that struggling in their station in life seventy talking about let's wrap it up with your pick. So you got and why I got Texas Tech. I think Texas Tech in a battle of defenses a battle of pack line verse sideline battle of I think they have the ability to disrupt and and make it harder for junior to score. I like Texas Tech because I think that they they're motion is predictable unpredictable enough that they'll try to move them a little bit. And then they'll curl them drive them. I think they'll be up to offensive rebound. Just ted. And I think that this just watching Texas Tech. And of course tournament they've been the most dominating team in the tournament. Why would it stop now? I totally agree with you. I'm taking for Jinyu only because duke's not here, and it's the only team really to beat Virginia. No, Florida's steak did this actually this Texas Tech team. Does remind me of Florida state to a degree. I mean, obviously, nobody's deep. But man, they get after defensive letting Texas Tech's gonna win the game. But I'm gonna take for junior that is the ultimate B S nonsensical hedge, and I'm embarrassed for myself, and I'm going to go in front of the mirror. I'm a knock myself out with a right cross to chops honest to God. Like, everything about me says text tech and win this except for the fact that I'm gonna take gonna take Virginia because I just simply don't think they lose. I don't know about a magic run. I don't know about blast. I'll about all that happy horse bleep. I just don't think they lose. I don't know makes it makes sense. These squash set the college basketball championship addition of the world's greatest podcast. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Grant Hill and Dan Dakich (04-04-19)

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"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log Napa know this month get a five core jug of Napa full synthetic motor oil. Plus, a Napa platinum oil filter for twenty one ninety eight that's a pretty unbelievable deal. But trust us. It's totally real. But only for a limited time, so get Napa bulletin Pedic and Napa platinum oil filter for twenty one ninety eight today quality parts, helpful people. That's Napa know how no how general states pricing sales pressing not include applicable state, local taxes or recycling. Peace offer ends four thirty nineteen broadcasting from the Mercedes mobile man cave. Here's Dan, Patrick our two in Minneapolis. Welcome to the program. We'll talk to the great Grant Hill a player, a former player a guy we love to hate Dan, dockage ESPN college hoop analyst he will join us coming up a little bit later on his well, he wants to shoot against the danettes. 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The all new GT four door coupe because life is a race your local dealership for test drive today. All right Jami rant declares for the draft. UCLA looks like they're zeroing in on Jamie, Dixon, tonight bucks. Sixers warriors and the Lakers. And if you'd like get in touch with the program, you can't have righty of Lay's. Our Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Twitter handle with DP show phone number eight seven seven three DP show as we sit. Good morning to a radio and TV partners around the country. All right. Our next guest. He couldn't live up to his father's name as a football player. So he turned basketball a role player on the nineteen Ninety-one team. He provided great supports a Christian Leitner. He was lucky enough to be the recipient of a brilliant Allieu from Bobby Hurley against Kansas in route to a national title. You may remember him. He was the guy with a kid in play haircut. He went onto play in the NBA. Eighteen years. Oh, that's right. He hung on his defensive stopper later in his career since we couldn't get Christian Leitner, Bobby Hurley or Aala Abdul Nabi. Please. Welcome. Oh, very loving. So. I feel Turner sports basketball analyst grants on the call the final four national title game for the fifth consecutive year. Man. What bothers you the most about that introduction there. I think it's all true. We had later on that was yesterday or two days ago. I never know when he serious when he's joking like, he's he's cocky, he's humble, I I I don't know how you read him when you played to with you. Right. I think he's more humble now. But when we played, you know, the this so much about Layton, it has been discussed, and you know, he was this. He was that. He was a great team. He really was. And he was a super super everything was a competition everything who's bag were come out. I at the airport. You know, you know, who could see a, squirrel. I see everything was he was his hyper competitive, and I don't feel like he's as competitive now. But he said he told you first day I want you to dunk on me. Yeah. No. I I saw that. It is true. He would he would try to contest and try to. Block it and. You know, it was a little bit different little bit weird. And most people don't say try to dunk Duncombe. But he was just competitive. He wanted to try to meet at the rim and see if he could block my dunk. And then I think after a while I was dunking on pretty easily and talking a little trash tool. So that ended after that point, but that was Christian. I mean, he I'll say this. He got more excited for migrate plays than anybody else. I think that image from the tournament of when RJ Barrett had a reverse dunk. He's jumping up and down. That was Chris. So. He was complicated in a lot of ways. But he was a great teammate and a lot of fun to play. And we did that documentary. He did it the everybody. Hey, raising later, and but you have teammates, but they sell me for two hours. I said great things about them. And they just like five minutes supported their their thesis and ran with it. But, but what did you have players who you played within the NBA that ask you about him? Yeah. I think so there was some players early on who asked about him. And he he was just one of because he's an 'nigma. Yeah. Here's here's here's a little bit. But he's he's I think he's a good person at heart. He had great things to say about, you know. I mean, I have great things. There's a story we played at Caen Shas his senior year in buffalo. He's everybody's all American. We go to buffalo to give key to the city. We go out in the first half. You know, we're blowing them out. He's taken. He took one shot at halftime. I remember coach getting on. I'm like, hey, this this game is for you. You look like you don't wanna play. And he's like I want my hometown and see how good my teammates on. So like there's that side of Leitner that doesn't give played up. But he was competitive he he put it all on his shoulders. He endured a lot of abuse on the road. But as a team mate, he really was a great team made fun to be around. Bobby Hurley say the same thing. Yeah. I mean, look they had their moments. I mean, just like any, you know, I'm sure like the, Dan as I'm sure you guys, you know, get get after it wasn't a while. Yeah. But I mean, look they play great together. And I think there was more good. A lot more good than bad, but they had their moments. I mean look krizner we had our moments. I mean Christian, but you didn't fight. Did you all the time? We fought all the time. I mean, like throwing punches every okay? So I'm gonna tell you a little story. So. My first ACC game. We're getting ready to play for Jinya averaging. And we're in Christians room Christians rooming with Tony Lang who was my normal roommate, but we had different roommates on the road and the beds were were pushed apart, and we're fighting each other like there's about five or six of us. And we're taking turns fighting each other. Like what how does it start where you're I don't even know how started, but the manager knocks on the door couple times, we're making all this noise. Wrestling were fighting. It was almost you fight each other. And we'd go at it. And no punches are thrown. But we're wrestling and trying to like, whatever. And so we go out the next day, and we lose by twenty five like we get blown afternoon game. So we bust back to durum. No, one says a word for three hours pull up to Cameron, and coaches, I want everybody tapes ready in fifteen minutes, and that was the worst practice that I've ever been a part of and I broke my nose in an practice. And so I manage to stay away from Christian on the road. From that moment on. But but yeah, I mean, we were kids we were juvenile. We did silly things. And obviously things that in the social media age you can't do now. But we fought every day Christian could actually fight. He was good with his hands. He used to box growing up. So we slapped box. And you know, it was just kids we had fun. And you know, and so, but he was you know, he he could he could what does it talk. It like you walk while he he could back it up a little bit talk to the exact certainly talk. Yeah. That's for sure. Grant Hill's with us Turner, sports basketball analyst, and of course, on the call for the final four national title game Tuesday's poll question was most talented Duke player vol- time. Paulie? Yes. Okay. The most talented Duke player of all time is this just a way for the media to get zion's name into whatever their show is. Because you're the most talented player that I think ever played it too. Yeah. You know, Christian said that as well. Okay. Do you think you're more talented than Zion? I mean, it's hard to make this debate. I mean, really when you start comparing different eras because what Zion has done. What Marvin Bagley did what kyri did as freshmen? We didn't do that back. Then in his greatest Christian was junior and senior year his first year he played with Danny ferry. Danny ferry was college player of the year. Christian was in a comp a complementary role much like I was in a complementary role until you're in Israel. And so that's what happened freshman freshman waited their turn. And so and so to think that this kid can come out and play at this level as a freshman national player of the year all this hype. All this attention on him as an eighteen year old like we never went through any of that. You know, I was shielded by late. Her late was shielded by ferry ferry was shielded by Johnny Dawkins. So it was a difference. Interesting. We're real different time. So insane that I mean because I would look at this in this is the argument I would make let. Me sees ion on as finished product at Duke, or at least have a couple more years because you were finished product at Duke person was a finished product at Duke Johnny played longer Batty played longer. So we saw you guys became men zion's eighteen right? If zion's twenty one or twenty two what kind of player is he while he's still playing in college. I mean, he may be considered not only maybe the greatest do player, but could possibly be the greatest of all time. I mean, you just you never know. I think his potential is is at lettuce schism is explosiveness. Have you been around him? Yeah. I hadn't been around a much of this year. But with the tournament run with them, and you know, the thing that was impressive was like with all this going on. And all the exposure. It was almost like he's oblivious today like he and RJ and those kids, and but I like Zion. He celebrates his teammates RJ is not as celebrate. Sorry. I think Zion loves playing basketball. I think R J loves shooting score. I mean, I think I think we all celebrate each other in different ways of anxiety on is more stress. He's definitely comes across as more the emotional more vocal guy. I think RJ's a little bit more cerebral in terms of his personality. But like one story I heard with the people that do that with all the exposure. He was getting he went to s I d say, look it's too much about me. It's got to be about the tea. And so there's just like he's genuine he's pure. He's a great teammate. And I think he has obviously a great future in front of now because of his talent, but because of his his work ethic and the right mentality. I don't know how many guys are on this list who have guarded, Michael Jordan, LeBron James and Kobe Bryant, right. So you're on that list. You want to be? Because you didn't normally guard Jordan, author that was a Carolina shirt. I'm done. No, we wouldn't do that. Don't play with fire. We we wouldn't do that too. Okay. But if you said, and you would be the one of the ultimate people to ask like the best offensive player you faced who would that be like the toughest to guard. You gotta go with George. I I didn't guard Jordan a lot. But when I did it was definitely Jordan. She Kobe wants to know helped me so Kobe was because I guarded Koby a lot, and I was sort of like on son's like that was my role to guard Colby, and so that was Kobe's relentless. And every every time down the court. He's trying to score. And he was the one guy. I felt like really didn't have a weakness. He could go, right. Go left over either shoulder in the post could hit crazy shots, you know, contested from three pointer like you just you just had to like you had to sort of have nesia. Sometimes you had to just get over the fact that he was gonna hit tough shots. And but he was the ultimate challenge. No doubt not not to take anything away from LeBron. I didn't guard Jordan as much but Kobe was plus I have one ankle. I got a bad ankle. I'm thirty seven years old. You know, and they put me on Kobe Bryant like that was unfair says bass me feel sorry for you feel sorry. I mean, I think there was a respect there. But he, you know, he was relentless and Leitner said, and you watch the interview with later that you were pressured to come back after that first surgery on your ankle. They never come back. Yeah. Nah. I remember he wouldn't tell you wouldn't name names and tell the whole story need a whole hour to go through that ordeal. But yeah, that that whole situation, and I'm gonna tell it at some point write a book about it. But it was horribly mismanaged. And I I still remember we were in the play offs against Miami. And is in my ankle had been bothering me up until that point. And we were coming back from a practice late. And it was like, hey, man, like need to take it easy. Like, you're not right. And you know, and so I ended up playing that game too. And that's when I didn't play any more, and I had to have surgery, but I should've but he thought you might lose your foot. I mean like this was really serious upset staff affection. I I when septic I it was. The whole and this was three years later after numerous surgeries of so. Yeah, it was scary. And it was a point day where you know. Yeah. You kind of thought I would possible. So because you were people don't realize, and maybe they forget you were on the road to be. You're not Michael Jordan. Right. But your your ear in the conversation of most complete player in the game, you know, rebounds. Assists scoring you play defense. There's no weakness your great teammate. And then this happened like you had four five years. Can I get that site know, my kids here because he gave my daughter my seventeen year old she'll every once in a while, she'll go on YouTube or something like that? You actually were pretty good player. You weren't. You weren't always a scrub. You know? Probably seeing you. They saw me like he saw Kobe tortured me when I'm thirty years. They didn't see that. So I appreciate that show or G Q magazine or show her that the kid in play haircut. Well, I won't show her that. But now, I mean, it was it was a good. I think for me four years in college coming into the league having success early on and getting better. I felt like my six year in Detroit. Like, I finally got into a point where the game was really really you were an and then you know, then I had the injury. Ordeal. And did you think you're was good as Jordan? That time, you know, what I think certain players would you had a certain level and top five ten whatever top twenty in you feel like you're the best player on court. And so when I stepped on the cord even against Jordan we felt like I was the better player. And when I came back whether I was the better player or not that's what I felt. But when I came back after four years, we think Derrick rose and all the stuff he went that was years. I had four years of just, you know, injuries, you know, the body betraying you you lose the confidence in your body, which you also lose the confidence in who you are. So instead of feeling like I'm at best player. Now, I'm I'm just happy to be back. You'll meet a guard. Kobe. So I lost a little bit of that edge. That's necessary. I think to be at that that level you were gonna tell me Jordan story when I first saw you today. Right. You want? Let's let's end the segment with that. So by the way, I have a basketball court here. Right. I would like to recreate the Duke Kentucky play. But I'm going to have you run the defense like what did Kentucky do wrong on that play where Christian hits the shot? Okay. Okay. By the way, Leitner didn't that wasn't tough Leitner. Did right? You had the hard thing. You had to you had to find the open man, you can't should be called the pass. You can't make this out without the. Yeah. I mean when the big deal later church one way. Healthy guard Leitner later. And then as he caught it he took a dribble. I'm like, no. But now he that was that was an unbelievable moment and unbelievable performance. Right. We'll we'll show that during the live look in your Jordan story before we take a break. So joy, I'm playing in. Orlando is his last year. We played them in Orlando. I and I'm blocking shot like, I'm locking them up. Oh, I'm doing my thing. Again, I'd like to shot like three or four times. Oh, I'm having my way against them defensively. Now granted he's forty years old. But I'm feeling good about myself so fast forward a month later, we're in D C my ankle. We we go to the doctor in Baltimore. And basically tells me I'm done like my ankles. You know, once again, it's not healed. It's broken, and I have to have surgery, but I wanted to play against Jordan one last time, and we're playing the wizards is a t and t game to go out where you dominate him talking to Sean my ego like Adam the last year. One ankle give me a bunch of MO Trump came out here. And when I tell you he torched me in that first quarter like literally he gave me twenty points in the first quarter on the same play. Like, he just ran the same play every time and did and I could not guard them. And so literally I checked out of the game at the end of the first quarter at it. Even go to the I just walked back to the locker like I was. Had surgery a couple of days later, but it was like I wanted to guard Jordan one last time. And you're right. I shouldn't have I should've just let that go. He know you were wounded animal. He did. Because he went at me. And he didn't saying move. It wasn't. He didn't do anything different. It was the same. And I had nothing for Jordan. Probably had your x rays in the locker probably probably knew exactly of surprised he didn't send somebody for me to come back out. All right during the live look in. We'll recreate the Kentucky Duke play where grant makes the unbelievable pass and Leitner hits a decent jumper. We'll take a break. Also, Dan dockage public enemy number one on this show. He's going to join us coming up a little bit as well. We'll take a break nineteen after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show. Guys. Sixty six percent of men start losing the hair by age thirty five the thing is when you start to notice hair loss, you might be too late. It's easier to prevent to keep the hair you have to replace hair you've lost. So as it slowly going back. Can you just see inkling of the crop circles? If you know what I mean any bald spots. I gotta solution four hymns dot com. 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So he'll be on the call for the final four and the national title game with Nance Bill Raftery already during the live look in. If you saw if you're a Kentucky fan sorry about that. But we were trying to recreate the play where Grant Hill throws the ball, fillet, dinner and Leitner just got the ball. Nobody was there in front of him. And then grant said no, we're double teaming Leitner. He didn't put somebody on the ball, which I thought was a big mistake. When I threw it in. Yes, mclovin. That's ridiculous to Grant Hill saying you should put a guy right in front of a behind Christian late. And now he says that but he made the shot like he wouldn't have known at the time. Well, no, we we thought that somebody should have been on the ball. And then you can't let Leitner get the ball later had missed his shot the entire game. He's nine for nine from the floor ten for ten from the line. And then they let him get the ball and Leitner with. He he actually dribbles once turns and then shoots and or John Pelfrey. Yes. And McLellan's wrong Kentucky fans. One second after that shot screaming at the TV. How did you not have someone in front of back leader? It's the worst moment Kentucky basketball history. You you. Well, losing to Texas. Western was bad for Kentucky basketball yarmulke. I was so excited reenacted and hit the shopper later the first one Politik on my hands. Then I air balled. The second was not good. I know if you missed any of our interviews of from this week, the Mercedes aim man, cave, go to the Dan Patrick show app where you can watch. And listen from inside the Mercedes AMC man, cave, Mercedes AM G driving performance continental tire coaches corner brings us well should be continental tire former coaches corner because he not really a coach really player. He's an analyst ESPN college basketball analyst, Dan dockage, continental tire coaches corner. Former bowling green head coach. Indiana coach. See? Uh-huh. We did a video are this are distract video and over one hundred twenty five thousand people watched that video that we sent to you guys bother me so much you my friend Jimmy visceral every other morning says, hey. Those guys are killing you. I'm like, okay. Why did I started because you watch the show and you kept saying, hey, tell those guys to stop shooting the only one now I said what I said was only Dan shoots on TV. But that's basically what I mean. Like, I got all these text messages, I say and you rip these guys and then rhythm. I just said only Dan should shoot on TV take that however you want, but that was a compliment to you. I took it. I know that I I'm a good shooter. I just felt bad for the look at these guys they have nothing going on in their lives. And then you are ripping them. And I thought why are you acting like Bob Knight all of a sudden here? Well, I did act like Bob Knight one time in the locker room. I was I was doing an imitation him when I was a player and he walked in Ono. Yeah. So he was he was behind me. Let me see your Bob Knight. I you can't do Bob nine less. You can swear I'm being totally. So I ended the whole thing by pointing at my chair, and you mother dockage. And he was rolling in the background. He was I had my I like I was looking like an offers like you're good. You're good. And I'm like. So, but you can't you can't do nine less unless you're swearing. It's just no good. So Bob didn't say anything to he laughed like crazy, and he laughed so hard. And then he said, let's go it was before practice. A so let's go because he coats not used to do was. He was like literally if we had a meeting at six he would show up at eight, and you would all be sitting there like just like dummies literally you'd be sitting there like we kid Chuck France who kept a blog we had these notebooks. And he would keep Holly coach night was for me. And it was all her day. We sat in their store. So what's the message that he's sending to hunting hunting? And he would come in today. Like, he just got back from Beirut or. You know, and he would literally you would come in and say we'd been hunting gear. It'd be like all right. We'll see you guys tomorrow. And that'd be the hell, we're we're. Okay. But then I practice where you start to hear that language, and you know, Bob is let you knew what you were getting into when they right like the idea that kids get bothered by is so disrespectful to kids. Like, I didn't come to Indiana. And all of a sudden a guy swearing at me. And I'm gonna be upset by Aaron Henry isn't going. I can't do it. Now, you can you just can't do it on TV. Hello, Tom is. But yeah coaches are little bit. I think a lot of it actually certain coaches, are you know, you are behold into your team. I'll tell you this. My first practice on never forget it was the year after is Ahah one national championship. So it's eighty one. But it's in the fall, right? And you couldn't you didn't have workouts. Like you do. Now, you just simply started practice October fifteenth. We had some running stuff, and I swear to God my first practice I drill. I'm in a stance. And I think I'm doing good. Stop. Did you ever play defense in your? Okay. I'm I'm I weigh one hundred ten pounds. Literally. I'm in practice. And I look at Mike FOX manager. I mind I'm gonna die how much more. He looks at his watch. You couldn't look at your watch and practice with coach nine he kind of looked. He goes we've been going forty five minutes. You've got to our. I'm not kidding. I literally literally was going to die. It was. So it was so hard. Did you ever make you cry? No, no, no hit me in the face with a ball twice here in Minnesota. It's season on the brink. He got he got in. He got any wanted to play. And I was a freshman and we're playing zone play Minnesota zone. He gets he's gonna show. Ted kitchen. Rainy, women how to passing I strip it from. He's on top. I'm in zone, steal it. So he gets in can tell he's man. And he goes again he goes make pass. True story is gonna sound bad. All right. He takes dribble and I'm gonna stance. My face is exposed takes dribble. And throws a ball hits me right in the face. That's what happened here face. Oh. The mystery. And then so I give him the ball and I'm really into stance. And he does it again drills me right since season under the drills rent a face. And now, I am like cousinly mother. You know, any spins me around my shoulder, and I got my fist Lynch because I'm on that was in any Exxon back up, and he's like, all right? We're going onto something else. Well after practice he calls me onto the court over here Williams arena. And he says we're gonna punch me. I, you know, I'm a fresh as a coach is gonna knock your ass. I'm sorry. But you just hitting face twice the basketball. And then all of a sudden, I'm spun around, and it's kind of funny. This is how sick I am. I was really kind of happy about it because I didn't play the game before. And I knew he was gonna feel so bad that I was doing the game. I got into a few minutes as a sickness played at Indiana in the eighties, brother. But you think that he was testing your toughness? No, I think he literally got mad because here's a freshman. Stealing the ball from me. Okay. I wasn't. I guess later. Rainy, women and said kids told me whenever he gets into practice. You just let him make pass like oh. And you whipping over your shoulder lays, I didn't know that. I was just a freshman. Are you worried about his legacy? I mean, I don't wanna sound harsh. But I I I don't like him. I don't care. Okay. Anything? I don't have a relationship. I don't want a relationship. I won't be around him. I don't wanna see him. I don't care when did it change. You know over years. I was there sixteen years with them. And when I left he was really nasty. He really said some bad things about me too, high school coaches, and I called him on he and his son TIMMY, just because you left, and you were going now, we're going to get good dockets didn't do this. I'm like why was there sixteen years? I mean, and then so I called him on it any policy is. But are you doing that for and then when when he got fired in the end, it wasn't his fault. It was all our fault. It wasn't Isaiah's fought. It wasn't Buckner small, and it was it was the guy like me who worked for him who he could cast this. And then when I went the SPN he. I said a lot of things behind behind the scenes, the people that I didn't appreciate he just he just hasn't been very loyal guy to me. And I feel like it was sixteen years. I was very loyal guide on stupid law. Like, they my book is no man is a hero to his valet because it is pretty much valet. And. You know? I just I just don't I don't like why did you stay so long because I was told I was going to be head coaching Indiana by him. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you stay here, and I'm gonna quit midway through and maybe through year, and then you're going to be the head coach. So I thought, you know, martial law for me job twice once before Billy Donovan got it pi four five schools, and then when when bowling green came open I had to get out. I'd had enough of him. And he probably had enough of me. I just had to get out of we're talking to Dan dockage looking at my face. There is something wrong. Wait is it. Are you just noticing? You're usually my mind, my hair looks good. No, my no, it just looks bad Europe Cosso painting in real life. Again, you're all like your stuff's all over the place. I'm saving my head. When the season's over and coming home. Really? Yeah. It's you that I'm gonna put some advertising on the Hong. Hong. He didn't frizzy looks really good. You done. Can. I say one thing about for instance. Yeah. I love how much he loves his family. I do I love when fritzy gets going about. So what you're saying is we don't love our. But he just says love how much he talks about his bar mitzvahs. And what he does for his kids that he asked you to do a video. Night. Then why why do you hear isn't going to help me too much? She have more sympathy for your wife. Now, you're looking at yourself on Cameron you're going God. She's got a look at this. If you look at my wife's in this is true. She literally gets mistaken constantly for Jennifer Aniston shoe store. Look up Lee Ross on Twitter picture on ESPN is right next to Jennifer. And I look at it all the time. Not not great selfish. This what's how'd you pull that? You know, I'm not bad to hang out with fun to hang. I don't want to marry you though. I just hang with you. Well, one thing I look I'm not gonna say it. My wife is is. That's okay. It's almost like she special for doing. Yes. She. Maybe she thought you were like make a wish kid, that's my she she fell in love with you. It's not the first time that's been said. We get caught up in Zion. Williamson and Zion Williamson's in most exciting basketball player in history that we've ever say is there a college basketball player you remember now wouldn't have this hype? I don't or you know, social media made Zion explode, and the fact that dukes on national TV, but from the entertainment aspect of this as anybody ever, come close to perceive. We're talking to Grant Hill, I think Christian Leitner did back in the day. I mean, you think about if you really think about Duke in those days basketball was great. I think grant played up to three years. You know, I mean Calva Cheney played for us for four. We played them in at the game. After Leitner hit the shot in the final four here in Minneapolis. The truth of the matter is late nerd before. So if you would have put social media into that era. Don't you think Leitner would have been probably beyond even what Zayn Williamson because you gotta remember the highlights. Oh, I think he's got better highlights than Zion. I'm not talking about dunce. But I'm Tom how about Seton Hall is freshman year. How many Jane winners this guy? He'll I know the biggest moment I'm not talking about beating commission. I'm right there with you. So I'm saying to us talking about excitement, the blocks and the dunks was I on I get all that. But you, but I'm I guess I'm answering more let's just say Instagram followers. Okay. If Leitner did what he did for four years now, right? If Leitner did what he did in this era of Instagram and Twitter. I think he would I think he would be now I get what you're saying little rising. He's polarized people love Zion. When's the last time we love to do player? Gotta go back to Grant Hill. Grant Hill was the most lovable Duke player. Heels iron Williams. I mean, how do you? I don't know. What is what role is parents played in just how he could stay sort of in that moment of being a kid enjoying celebrating knowing what he's got coming down the road. Maybe that's why into good mood like what you've been. Yeah. But he doesn't play selfishly, Dan. I've said this. I think Zion will the smartest basketball player in college basketball this year. I know he's the most talented. I know he runs jumps and always straw. But I think he's the smartest basketball when you watch him play basketball. I saw this in Syracuse game. This is gonna sound really nerdy basketball stupid. But there's a loose ball on the floor and watched this for myself. He didn't just dive on. Pile for loose ball, he dove where the ball was understand what I'm saying. Like he and then I'm watching him in the middle of his own. And I'm watching them in the middle zone catch basketball, and what you do with. It you shot. You look down. You look opposite. Did all that with poise took his time. And then I'm watching him on defense and the balls. Opposite him Duke has a rule that it gets. It's basically this to passes away you're in the middle of the lane or maybe he's always in the right spot. And that's is intelligence that to me is basketball smarts. I'm telling you once you coach any more me. Because I like my life. Nobody's offering me a job. Okay. You every verse over there? I know I didn't. But yes, I did. You know what? I mean. Like, my wife is there and I'd like my life. You're doing great. I'm having fun. And I can't tell you how much I don't know why you guys bothering me so much. I'm just look at it. Because you're you allow us I'm Bob night with the ball. And throwing it in your face is really figured if I'm not going to reenact that like you did what do with grant. Yeah. I'm not doing during the live look in we want. If you've ever wanted to see Dan dockage shoot in. Nobody's Indiana to coach tonight didn't wanna see him shoot. I'm going to have you go against the dannettes and then. Just you just you just shoot. Let's see what you got shot one ball in five years. No, no, no, no, no. Now. No, let's bring down. Let's bring out the violin. Yeah. You're sad. You had sent me. You sent me a picture of you with a basketball on your Harvard t shirt on a sense. You don't ask me yesterday drilling? A three on the court over here, it I will tell you took one take with the truth is about twenty takes. That's what I thought McGrath who was videoing. It says man, you're swear. Whereas it getting. He's Dan dockage ESPN college basketball analyst joining us continental tire coaches corner. We'll come back by way, Bruce Pearl top of the hour and Chris beard will join us in the final hours. Well, Dan, dockage puts on a shooting display that would make Stevo for jealous right after this. Everybody's got it to do this. 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It wasn't permanent that I think they did an experimental year with the three point line back then and Indiana had great shooters. I think that that might have been the first year fulltime, but they had Randy Wittman and Ted Kituyi believe they were really really good shooters. How different is a game. Now, like a guy like Radi Whitman would've shot five hundred three's and shot eight dances. Yes. Yeah. But you had offered I mean Bob Knight embraced it because he had offered and let him shoot. And that's when they had that up-tempo style when they played against UNLV. And everybody's like you can't run with UNLV. And then Indiana did ended up winning. Yeah. I was just setting you up to say that you didn't have a three point three point line, which might have been nice. Yeah. Yeah. When the only way to. Stop me was with a handgun but league rules frowned upon. Yeah. Paulie? I just looking back to see how many shots per game threes per game guy like Steve Alford took because you're right. Eighty six eighty seven was the first year. College basketball had it so offer its first year he attempted six threes game, which was top three in college basketball that year. He went in heavy, you know, his three point shooting percentage was his senior year at Indiana offers. Yes, this is nuts. I just double checked at fifty five percent. Fifty three percent from three. They must not knowing how to guard it back then offers one of the great shooters who's ever played the game. Not me. Really? He's up there with Rettig. And some of these other guys that are just abs- knocked down shooters. Do we have this day in sports history, by the way, continental tire proud to be the exclusive tire the Dan Patrick show. No matter where you drive what you drive how you drive continental desires for what you do. For more information. Visit cut military dot com. Continental tire for what you do by the way. Dockage was correct with his wife looking like, Jennifer Aniston. She's very striking. And weird that she gave me your digits. So that was kind of awkward. Yes. Yes. Mclovin. You have sort of Ross. I did she said you look like David Schwimmer. I said well, thank you, can we let's be friends. All right, bowling. What do you have this day sports history? Dan, you're gonna love this one nine hundred seventy four Hank Aaron tied babe. Ruth's major league home run record with seven fourteen. Was that on live TV or do you? Remember it? I was I think during a day game against the reds, and he homered off Jack billing billing ham, and then they they made him play in those games in Cincinnati because they they were going to have Hank. Aaron sit out those games and go to Atlanta, and then try to break the record there. So he homers seven fourteen goes home, then it's a night game against the dodgers and Al downing. And I remember watching that game. And because I was a Hugh the his ability to use his wrist to hill homerun now because guys talk about torque their lower body, Hank. Aaron and Mike Schmidt were the two guys who hit home runs with their wrist. And Hank just had because he wasn't a big guy. And he just had that. Ability to be able to use those risks to hit home runs. Also on this day in sports history. Infamous Carl Tuffy Rhodes nineteen Ninety-four Chicago Cubs in his debut with the team being became the first player nationally history. Hit three home runs on opening day. So in one game with the cubs. He had three home runs. How many home runs the finish with on the season five? He finished with eight. Oh did. Well, he went to Japan and like a week later. No, no, no. Because if little longer than that before he went this day in sports history. Brought to you by continental tire. They remind you to take five minutes at the beginning of every month. Check your tire pressure for more information on all of their great products dot com. So we have our poll question with that. Which coach legacy wise needs at title, the most and it's Bruce per one, Tom is too. I some other Pohlad. Okay. If this is with all the college coaches coming through, which is a better job NBA coach college coach, I'm curious where you think I'd rather be a college coach because I have I have more control. But the recruiting part of that is, you know, it's a nightmare. You know, being a magic if you're in your fifties. And then you're going to go talk to an eighteen year old. And you're, you know, you're traveling all over the try to get these kids and your future your life. Your career depends on them. That's that's pretty tough. Whereas the NBA, and you've got people who are salary cap experts, and helping you with that all you have to do is coach. And then maybe you're involved in the draft is well, yes recruiting just seems like a nightmare. Not only do you have to deal with the kids you have to deal with all their parents to. But in basketball, you only have to recruit like five or six guys each year. So it's different imagine. If you're in football, and you're out there recruiting thirty. I can't imagine that gamma clump, college coaches sweat through nine shirts. The MBA guys just sort of stand there. It's much harder chop the guys we have in everyone seems like they're on the verge of a stroke every every day. Well, Bruce Pearl, Bruce Pearl. Always looks like that. It's like, you know, this walking corpuscle when you're going on like that was his nickname walking corporal Senate. See, yeah, he'll be joining us coming up the top of the crispier. I don't think we've had Chris beard on before. But the Texas Tech head coach will join us coming up as well. What other questions do you have? Okay. If you have tickets to one big event the final four the national title game. In college football Super Bowl World Series. I'll give you an NBA finals or Stanley Cup finals, which is the event. Not fun. Four is awesome. But you get three games. Right. I did a lot of people would maybe take that. Well, I always love Saturday night. And then I wonder if there's going to be a push to have Thursday and then Saturday instead, so we would have the games tonight. And then you'd have the national title game on Saturday night. I'm wondering if if you ask the coaches if they would opt for that. But I always loved the Saturday games because you got two of them national title game. You're never sure if it lives up to the billing, but Saturday pretty special day and night, and certainly will be here in Minneapolis. All right. Final hour coming up. Bruce, Pearl will join us true spirit will join us. We will also get your phone calls as well. Eight seven seven three defeat show, the EMMY nominated Dan Patrick show. Paulie fridge. Mclovin. Yours truly. Hello guys made fighter jail. Senate. Check out my podcast. 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Breaking News Day!

"Starting the podcast today. With what we call in the trade. A post production edit Adding this to the beginning of the podcast because it was a podcast of breaking news throughout. So you'll hear tommy. And i today as we were getting the news about nats. Mets postponed about roy williams retiring about some of the things that ron rivera was speaking about in his zoom conference call with beat reporters at times here. Early in the podcast. It'll sound like we don't know anything about it but we find out as we were recording it and we respond to it in the moment so enjoy the podcast today by the way Under that i did not do yesterday. But i will have a podcast sort of makeup for wednesday's no podcast on saturday. Enjoy the show. Don't want it. you don't need it but you're gonna get it anyway. The kevin she and joe is kevin. We've got a lot to talk about including the fact that it is opening day. It'll be awfully cold in that ballpark tonight. Tommy for the five thousand season ticket holders. That will be there by the way. Did you know that they're going to re raise the banner tonight for the five thousand in attendance. Well i as well they should. I think they should raise the banner every time they get the up the capacity until they get a full house. Just wait until full house. I think they should do. And a half a dozen times because twenty twenty. Didn't happen at least in my mind. None far as i'm concerned. They're still the defending champs. I'm sorta with you. I mean they're the defending champs. The dodgers are back but beyond that you know last year was a weird year and they didn't have a chance to play a real season as defending champion. My only issue. Is you know these five thousand season ticket holders. Probably among their wealthiest season ticket holders. I don't know. did they do it by lottery. Maybe they did manage that. There may have been some preferential treatment like wait until the ballpark's full. There's there's no real urgency to intimidate. I guess you well. Then you've got three banner raisings problem. Nothing's the problem. Actually i mean. I guess if you put it that way we might as well do it every night for all you know eighty-one home dates. Let's let's just raise the banner you know what that actually that would that would be the utmost of appreciation because it would reach in connect with the most fans. Why not and the rest of the world would hate us even more. Yeah anyway it is opening night tonight. opening day. Let me point out You know not only. Is it going to be cold. But we're up on the sixth floor of the building. Okay so we're pretty high up and it will be windy. And sometimes it's like mount washington wind up there and because of it they can't close the press box windows. Are you rethinking your decision to go. I know i'm going good. I'm going yes suck it up. I i mean. I'm not lease loud. It's called but it will be cold there where i'm sitting then where anyone else watching the game is sitting tonight. Temperature's all right the the game the first pitch temperature forty two degrees. okay. I have basically here It's going to be windy Winds gusting up to twenty five miles per hour out of the northwest. That's by the way the cold side in which the winds blow out of the north west And if there is precipitation it would be showers or flurries during the game. Although the chance of that is minimal. Yeah i mean not ideal look. I know it's tradition to start the the baseball season right around the first of april give or take a couple of days for a lot of these northeast. You know colder cities the play outdoors. I know that you love to have the home opener at home but it really would make more sense for them to open up in miami or in a ballpark with a dome And then come back home in two weeks and they've done that before but whatever i don't care i mean it's it's five thousand people in the crowd tonight. I'm looking forward to it. You know they had to cove case. They've got player with kobe. Do you have any idea who that player is now. I don't you know. I don't cover the team every day. I know i'm not as plugged in as some of the guys. I haven't seen anyone reporter yet. I'm sure at some point before the game starts will probably know who it is and not only that but people came in contact with him. Have to be at to be quarantined as well. Right four other players that had contact tracing issue so there's the possibility that they'll be without five players now. They've called up players at positions. That would lead you to believe that. The five cases are of those positions that call up a catcher a leftfielder Another reliever an infielder. Yeah jesse dougherty on the show. This morning he covers the nets for the post me. He's very good And i asked him. I said Do you have any sense. Based on the call ups i mean. Have you done the you know. I'm sure you've done the the game of trying to figure out who it is and he said i have he said i just wouldn't feel that comfortable talking about it and i said oh okay Which is fine I mean. I think every single nationals fan. That's excited about opening night is doing that exercise. Right they're going through right left. Fielder quash kyle schwarzer might have it You know we've got a we've got a catcher so young young gums might might be the guy i mean i i. I don't know you know i. I also think back to you know this. I knew in the middle of the season when washington when there was a story out there that a washington player had covid to test deposit positive for covid i knew from a good source that with that it was mad i and itis and i it was still sort of a sensitive time and i did feel this First of all. I didn't care about breaking that news like matt i. This is the guy with covid. Nineteen first of all he was on injured. Reserve at the time But i i did call the washington football team public relations and i said look i know it's ionitsis and i said i don't want to do anything that makes anybody feel uncomfortable and i really don't know if it would make anybody feel uncomfortable to be honest with you. They they just said look you have it. Do with it what you want. But you know we'd like to keep it under wraps until you know until matt's sort of comfortable with it and so i just decided not to do anything with it. Whatever but i was thinking today like we're we're five months beyond that like is it really I guess it's super thing to report that by name if you have it that this particular nationals player tested positive and in fact for the players i woke everybody can feel the way they wanna feel having covid nineteen and testing positive. Is that really some sort of negative thing. Well look you've seen what we're going through right now in terms of vaccinations where people people Some athletes included in this. Some are locked in to say whether they've been vaccinated. I don't think this. I think it's the same. Concept is a sensitive time about your own personal medical information even though we're in a time where everybody is it either in kovic sear or getting over covert fear and most people would understand if somebody had covert it wouldn't be some kind of scarlet letter like that but i still think there's right now with the vaccination process. There's some sensitive different. Can i tell you why. I think can i tell you. I think that's different than you can. Come up with the idea that you think it's different. Okay well thank you for listening to it on our podcast today. Rather than just tuning me down as i speak to nobody. No it's different. Because i think there's a lot of sensitivity to making sure that you're not jumping in front of somebody in line to get a vaccine. That should've gone to somebody. That was more vulnerable because of age or underlying health condition. I talk about. I'm talking about Like some baseball players. Who don't want to reveal ever if they were vaccinated or not look the anti baxter's Who knows maybe they are anti vaccine. There still fear of the backlash up. Not getting a team at this point So i just think. I have no problem with somebody who wants to you know. Keep it quiet about their own Covert situation and sensitivities over health. The bigger issue. It's not gonna be issues. Not has it okay. Because they're going to get over it all these players over it. They're young. they're strong. They're healthy they. They'll get over it. The issue is this is a devastating blow for the nationals. Hotel actually devastating the whole Baby martinez mantra. This spring has been about getting off to an early a quick start. I mean good start. I mean they have not gotten off to a good start in any of the first three years. He's been a manager and we all know about the historic at thirty one. Start thousand nine. We have forgiven. Forgiven that one. But they have emphasized. Good start not not a slow start and they're starting off playing a division rival a tough division rival in the back. They're gonna play right after that another top division rival in the braves. Then they have to go on the road a week with a week to go play. The dodgers yup. It's it's it's you haven't even gone through the whole thing. I went through this with zach yesterday or the day. Before the they're they're they're opening schedule is she's brutal brutal. they're playing. They play the mets a bunch of times. They play the braves a bunch of times. Both of whom. If you're not following this are our co-favorites essentially the braves are a slight favourite to win the division. The mets are close to finish second. The nets are actually you know in terms of odds to win the division a distant third and slightly ahead of philadelphia and comfortably ahead of miami new york and atlanta are on paper according to vegas the two favorites to win the division so they opened up with york atlanta and then the dodgers who by the way they're over under number in vegas one hundred three then if the dodgers oh only only got better after winning The the convoluted world series championship last year. So you don't wanna be at less than full straight well. I think your description was a bit hysterical. And i don't know if it's devastating At this point because we don't even know who the player is or who the other four are but but by the way. I didn't even mention that. After the dodgers they get saint louis for six of their next ten games in saint louis picked to win their division and then by the way during this whole stretch they play. Oh by the way. The yankees at yankee stadium. The first month of their season the schedule is bridal brittle so. It's potentially devastating. Be down twenty percent of the wrong with you. We don't know that right now. They might have four of these guys back they may. They may clear the contact tracing thing they could be back and it's that's true but right now. This season is starting with with less than twenty percent of their roster already. Got a smell a column. God i smell tomorrow's column devastating thing ring the i'm not gonna ring me Bell is this a day of happy thoughts opening day. Negative stuff necessarily on on opening day. Although i've done that he's too But no. I'm not gonna write that for calm but i think it's potentially very damaging You know it's typical on opening day to do you know opening day memories or whatever you know i'll be honest with you. I don't have a lot of opening day memories. I didn't grow up with baseball. You did. I didn't i. You know. I grew up in the city. We didn't have a baseball team I didn't have opening days to look forward to in april. I went to a lot of orioles opening days. But it wasn't because i was orioles fan. It was about you know going to pickles for three hours and then going to a game with a bunch of friends in having a good time you know i could have cared less about the i just. I never adopted the orioles. As many of my friends did but I it's not a big day for me. Opening day i do love. I do like baseball a lot. And i'm a nets fan. And i love baseball on october in the postseason but manfred for so many cities. This is such a such a big day on the sports calendar. Has it risen to that level in dc for for a lot of people or not. Do you think No how can you say it has. It hasn't risen to that level yet. although i am surprised that all the i think there's more attention this year than normal because of the the desperation to feel normal and Opening day of baseball is a normal event or at least it has been a normal event in washington since two thousand five. So i think there's i think it away even though is going to be five thousand people in the stands there's heightened interest in it right now because of covert than than they're typically has been last year. If they had a normal opening day would have been through the roof would have been one of the hardest tickets to get in recent memory. Yeah so it has diminished with time because of that but I think it's a little bit heightened this year interest because of the desire to feel like life is back again. It's to be when when the rangers finally get to to their home opener. It's gonna feel really like opening day because they're allowing full capacity part which the president and others had issues with. I don't wanna get into that topic to be honest with you. Although i did have a mark hyman mark is the guy that replaced. George solomon is the head of the shirley povich sanders school of journal journalism and work with him at the baltimore sun. Yes so mark I've talked to mark a couple of times since he took over that job. And he was a part of this. I university of maryland washington post poll which basically pulled the comfort level of sports fans attending sporting events. I didn't intend on having this as a topic. But i'll just mentioned this real quickly. Forty two percent of those polled said that they feel comfortable attending a ticketed sporting event which means fifty eight percents still. Don't but i. There were a couple of things that stuck out to me number one. Obviously this makes sense more. A two thirds say they feel more comfortable at an outdoor sporting events so a football game or a baseball game outdoors and only a third essentially said they feel comfortable indoors at a hockey game. Basketball game Sixty four percent said that the absolut absolutely believe that masks should be required events but here was the one and i'll just ask you. I mean this was the one that caught my attention. And when i was talking to mark this morning about it on radio He didn't mention it in terms of the big things that stuck out. Tim and i said what stuck out to me is sixty. Four percent said that they'd feel comfortable if they were vaccinated and sixty nine percent said that they would feel comfortable if they knew that all attendees were vaccinated. That that that says to me this tommy because my reaction is a. I'd be a hundred percent comfortable if i knew everybody in the ballpark had been vaccinated and i would be every bit of eighty to ninety percent comfortable if i were fully vaccinated what it says to me and i mentioned this to him and he thinks it's true. I think this last year has forever or certainly for A period of time here of a few years plus is just changing Consumer habits when it comes to large crowds for anything. Sports is one reflection of that. But if you if you don't feel comfortable after what we've been told by the cdc with respect to the vaccine going to a a stadium or even an arena it. If you knew that one hundred percent of the people in there were vaccinated will the this last year has really really impacted you. And there's a fear there that's not going to go away. I think there's some truth in that. I think if you lived through something like this you don't just put it in rear view mirror I think it's something that you know people talk about to For for years to come the twenty twenty covert You know epidemic a pandemic. That people are the lucky ones managed to live through But you see you have this collision course with crowds right now. Live sporting event. Attendance was on the way down before colon understood. You know so. It's hard to it. Might be hard to differentiate what causes what we my. I mean right now. I i mean that there is. I mean it doesn't affect the nfl because the nfl just this went through a season where six percent of their fans went to football games and they may twelve billion dollars revenue. so they don't want is the number one tv. Tv's everything in the nfl. It's not in baseball to not in hockey now. Now it's not so So but but in these other sports like basketball and baseball and hockey. The most of all they need people there and people are are not people are were already not you know reducing the amount of live sporting events. They were going to. And now you have this other factor where this study came out that i knew it was gonna be the result of is you have a generation of young fans that don't even like to watch the games on tv. They'd like to watch highlights snippets a few minutes here in a few minutes there. So if i i listen the sport. I guess if i was asked owner i wouldn't care you know because gambling is is going to be such a security blanket for for them at particular but there's a lot of uncertainty as to what the future of of sports i it's gonna be right now. I mean because if you got a generation growing up saying i don't watch a game. I don't watch a game. That's troublesome. yeah. Yeah i guess you know i was just thinking. You're going to the game tonight. You're going to be in a press box. I'm assuming it'll be a socially distanced press box with people wearing masks. But you've been living the last year very concerned you're not concerned tonight because you're fully vaccinated true or not been fully vaccinated for thirty five days now so if you weren't you weren't fully vaccinated. You wouldn't go. no yeah. i wouldn't i by the way. There's huge breaking that i said. There's there's huge breaking sports news as we're sitting here recording this at least for me. Anyway roy williams is stepping down which is not a major surprise at north carolina. There was a lot of discussion about roy. Williams potentially retiring but roy williams is just retired thirty three seasons as a college basketball coach The last eighteen at the university of north carolina and this. This is a job that will be sought after this. Is you know it's funny. Indiana ended up hiring mike woodson. Right you know. A former player indiana But you wouldn't categorize mike woodson as a as an a plus candidate for any opening job then the name that's going to get mentioned more than any other name right out of the gate. My guess is brad stevens. you know. There's been this brad. Stevens waiting for either royer shoshefsky to call it quits to come back to coach one of the you know a blue blood And so that's the name you're going to hear you know it's funny. There was a list. I think last year before the season started. And i'm trying to find it right now. That actually had mark. Turgeon is a potential replacement for roy roy williams because turgeon and royer very close you know with the kansas link But not getting the north carolina job and by the way let me just mention real quickly my lean on this thing and i said this i think last thursday or maybe it was tuesday with tommy. I forget the days all run together. My lean is that turns going to get an extension. I don't know anything for sure. And i think we're gonna find out here over the next forty eight hours one way or the other but i do think that there is an effort to figure out an extension for church and whether or not they come to an agreement is another thing. I don't think he's going to take the oklahoma job I think that this is something. I mentioned from the very beginning he in the family. They love it here. They're not moving from here. They have a beach house in delaware. They love where they live. In in the maryland's the montgomery county and close suburbs And i just don't think that they are going to move if he if he ends up coaching elsewhere. They don't wanna move to norman oklahoma. Yeah i mean they've lived in college station. I can tell you this. If chris beard leaves texas tech for texas which i expect to happen You know i don't see him. Coin to lubbock lubbock a lot worse than college station In college station. Eight that great But anyway Roy williams man. You know roy williams luck. He's one and i'm pulling up. I just wanna see the record In total here because the news is just breaking. I've always felt that roy williams was a really good offensive coach. Put a dreadful defensive coach. None of his teams have ever been great defensive teams. He's almost said outright. Look our goal is to score to outscore you. And it's the way they've played. You know one of the things. I've loved about his carolina teams. Is they run every single chance they get the ball goes through the net and they are back at you like michigan state. You know he and his over the best at that and there have been a couple of teams in this tournament. Gonzaga's one arkansas was one where it doesn't matter. If you make a shot you have to sprint back on defense. Because they're coming back right you know. They're coming back after you But they got blown out by wisconsin in the first round of the tournament. This year The last you know they won the championship in two thousand seventeen and he was runner up to villanova on the last second shot by jenkins in two thousand sixteen Man what a record he nine hundred and three wins two hundred sixty four total losses. A win percentage of seven seventy four and he is How many how. It's three national championships right. All at north carolina because remember the k- the kansas team. He got upset a couple times. They got beat by maryland in a final four. That was his last at okay. That was his last. No they got beat by maryland. Two thousand and two at kansas and then came back. And the next year was when they lost syracuse in the final that would have been the syracuse championship in two thousand three then he gets to carolina and he wins is first title with that team in two thousand and five when they beat When they beat illinois in the final. I think that was the final where they beat illinois And he had that really good team with may and felton. And some of those other guys on that team Yeah what a career. i mean. seriously that nine hundred and three wins. Where is that on. The all time wins list. I don't i mean when i think of roy williams i think. How did this guy skate. On the north carolina academic scandal right. He stayed on that. He's third behind shift skiing behind. Four wins ahead of bobby knight and twenty four wins ahead of his mentor. Dean smith yeah dated on that. I mean that's still not necessarily a crime but Troublesome you know what it look i think the whole north carolina thing over a long period of time with the with the sham classes. You know this term papers. Yeah this is a perfect example of truly you know the. Have you know being slapped on the wrist and the have nots. Being shut down for something that would have they would have been shut down for. There's no doubt about it Yeah it's funny. You know. I mean i'm not i'm not really william fan because i think he got away with something but then again. My expectations for college sports particular college basketball are so low. Now i don't expect anything except that kind of behavior. Yeah his a. I want to say that. Gary had a winning record against roy. And i'm just looking that up please. Gary seemed to really know. Roy in out coach him not roy's record against gary williams in at carolina with six and five but maryland beat kansas with roy williams in the final foreign also. Beat them in in the regular season once. So i think i would be right in saying the gary williams is overall record against roy. Williams with seven and six with two wins over kansas. I don't think they lost kansas. I don't think they did Roy williams was one of those guys. I always felt was just you know overrated as an xs and os coach. But their style of play. Was you know something that i can tell you. Gary williams always loved and appreciated. He loved the way to carolina teams under roy played. He wanted to play that he wanted to be an eighty five eighty games. You know those are the kinds of games he wanted to play. And those are the kinds of games that roy williams played throughout his career and That's why gary in izzo get along. You'll get along for a lot of other reasons. But they played similar styles. Gary wanted all the with his better teams. He wanted more possessions in a game and he would do that Gonna be really interesting now. You know all the they're they're still some other openings out there. Texas is still open. Although everybody thinks chris Beards going there. But it's going to be interesting to see how the domino's sort of fall like i'm wondering if chris beard isn't at texas already because he might be a candidate for a job that may be. The sport thought would open up which is north carolina. You know if you've got now. Texas is his alma mater But man carolinas carolina and brian. You know brad. Stevens you know. The truth is there's a little bit of you know. Little bit of rethinking on brad stevens at the pro level they haven't won it They haven't gotten there. And this year is a disaster for the celtics a disaster. So brad stevens really good basketball coach but above ultimately would not surprise me. I'm thinking about the carolina. Alums that are out there I mean well What's his face is at vanderbilt jerry stackhouse. He's he's at vanderbilt. I can't imagine stackhouse gets the job. mica corns coaching somewhere. I think jeff lebeau. I wonder if he's still the these aren't the guys though it's gonna be i. I bet you it's brad stevens. Bet you brad. Stevens ends up. West or west miller who played at carolina and is at unc. Greensboro has been discussed is one of the best young coaches. He's not super young thirty eight but one of the best young coaches in the game. He's going to be a name. That's going to be on the list. I'm looking to see if anybody's put out lists already. It just happened. But i'm gonna guess that it is It brad stevens is a front runner for that job Anyway hey there's something doesn't matter doesn't matter for you because your team doesn't play any treating it like it is well. No i mean you know. The bottom line is is that roy. Williams is a is a major heavyweight in coaching across all sports pro college. That's that there's only one other retirement in college hoops. That could be bigger and that would be shoshefsky or maybe calipari. But roy's right there. She chefs go. Yeah behind get behind. Get a big sendoff as well There will be odds posted pretty shortly on a lot of sites on who the next carolina coach will be but thirty three years. He is st. There's apparently a press conference this afternoon. By the way speaking press conferences ron rivera was supposed to hold one at nine o'clock this morning but then they backed it up to eleven. They've done this before. I hope he's healthy and well these the last time it was because he wasn't feeling well I wanted to I wanted to get sort of a nats preview from you. I also wanted to talk about todd. Mcshay days just-released latest mock draft. Because he goes to rounds and he's got washington taking a quarterback in the second round. So wanna talk about that knife something to to ask you about And get your thoughts on right after this word from one of our sponsors all right everybody. I want to tell you about freshly. We got these meals delivered a few weeks ago. Actually it wasn't expecting it. But they were really good. And i want to tell you about an opportunity that i think you should try. Dinnertime in our household chaotic. Both of us work typically. We don't know what we're gonna do for dinner. And by the time we get around to figuring out dinner it ends up being too expensive and more times than not on healthy. 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Tommy i had ryan wilson on the show he writes for cbssports dot com. He's a draft analyst for cbssports dot com. He was excellent by the way and it was a really good conversation about the draft but there were multiple times where he referred to the team as football team he said. I think that you know football team might go. You know offensive line. Or i said what do you think you know about washington quarterback and he said well football team. There are multiple times and then the third time he said it. I just under my under under my breath but loud enough for him to hear. I said washington and then at the end of the conversation. I said to him i go look. I don't take this. I'm paraphrasing here. Don't take this is an attempt to to to end this conversation in a confrontational way. Because it's not meant that way. I really enjoyed our conversation. I thought you were excellent. And i said but why are you referring to them as football team instead of washington because he did mention washington a couple of times. I said for many of us when that happened especially early last year it really came off as sort of mocking at times. You know the fact that they hadn't picked a name yet. You know what. I went through the examples. We talked about it during the season last year but during games early in the year when one of the announcers would say i down football team like what like last year you you may have said i down washington and not said redskins. So why are you doing that so he just said to me he goes. Look i understand it. And he and he wasn't offended by the question at all Not that i would have cared if he had been but but beyond that he just said it's my way of making sure that i don't say redskins and so i just said will washington could be your way of not sing redskins and he. It's true and i say washington sometimes too but he said it wasn't in any way meant to to mock but it really does get to the core of like. I don't really care what they do but if they don't do anything i think you know th the team whether it's jason right or ron rivera or their pr group have to get out to the people that cover the league. The one part of our name right now. That is part of our brand is the city we play in washington. Refer to assist washington. Your thoughts you. You've earned all the ridicule and lack of respect at this organization gets the earned it. You can't go there and expect people to be serious. Say you need to show us proper respect to referred to our name the right way after for most of those people thought your name was a joke for years and offensive whether it was or not. That's what they thought. And now you're you're you're demanding respect from them please. You're on shaky ground here. I i didn't say that i'm demanding. Respect from them. That's not what i meant at all. What i meant is i would those that do it. First of all let. Let's just assume that many that do it. Were a part of that group. That were you know that that wanted the name to be changed. Because it's so hideously racist for a long period of time. So they do change the name they dropped the name and they're going through the process which is not an easy process and can't be done in six weeks or four weeks or whatever amount of time they had between the time they dropped the name and the new season started and so they did. What many of those people not. I'm not suggesting. Ryan wilson was a part of this. Did what many of these people wanted. And then they're going to get mocked on top of it with football team like we mean what do you mean. Yeah no no no no benefit of the doubt opener. Okay so you did what we asked you to do. And then and then by the way because you didn't come up with a replacement named fast enough we're gonna mock you on this name. Okay well we just generally like mocking because you're such a terrible organization. Okay out that. I think the league i never heard it all. I think the league should go to its league partners. Espn fox cbs nbc And say we we would really prefer that all of your television announcers in all of your other people until washington comes up with an official new name referred to them as washington. It sounds stupid to save football team when you would have said washington anyway last year. If you were against the name it's it's it's an effort you gotta you gotta you gotta go an extra few feet to say football team from washington. It's not that hard. Most of these guys call a lot of the other teams in the league by their city's name anyway. I mean you hear dallas as much as you hear cowboys. You hear miami as much as you hear dolphins. Let's just hear washington. Look i don't i n by the way what you're saying. You know that in many ways. I feel like you're right like there is nothing that they don't deserve. There is nothing that he doesn't deserve for being an absolute ruin her of what we had before he got here. But it just you're really like it. It seems like you're reaching and you're trying too hard to mock what. There's no chance that if jacksonville was in the midst of a brand name and they were calling themselves the jacksonville football team that i would call them football team. I come jacksonville. I call them jacksonville more times than jaguars anyway. Whatever ryan wilson said. He was doing it on purpose for a different reasons than just to mock the right. I think you. I think if you use football team you're doing it on purpose for whatever reason it is. It's much easier to see washington. Of course it's separately easier to do. And i and i did say ball team. You're you're you're doing it on purpose for whatever your reasons are i. I said that to him. i said. Wouldn't you know try not to say redskins by saying football team you can you. Can you can accomplish the same thing by saying washington because you probably referred to them as washington a lot of the time anyway and by the way he didn't even make it clear as to whether or not he was. You know an anti name guy for years anyway. I didn't even ask him. I just thought it was interesting. It's one of the first conversations. I've had with somebody where it wasn't washington football team. It was football team. It just sounds so stupid now and this notion that they should keep it. Unbelievable we no. You showed up. I mean if nothing else. I always point out to people. It's a constant reminder. You had to change the name. Well i mean. I got somebody who who moved to the area who says i'm going to become a a football fan of the local football team here. You know or or kids growing up here. Wanted to know why they're football team doesn't have a name. They're going to hear the story a story that you'd just rather berry they whether that's true or not and i'm not i'm not disagreeing with you. That adum name or no name continues to keep that name alive. That may be part of the point by the way from their standpoint but the name washington football team is just super clunky. And it's not a name now. Fc washington or washington dc. Which i would have no problem with at all is more of like an actual something you can brand 'cause we've seen it before and by the way it keeps the most important part of what we all want other than you know. The team colors to remain which they will washington needs to be in the brand. Unless of course you know in the next. Where have you seen this before. Washington f c or f f c washington. What do you mean where. Where have you seen this seat before. Oh soccer your favorite sport. It was so they were so telegraphed. Okay so just stop. I in america. Does that happen in america. What's next are you gotta start measuring you. A metric start measuring meters instead of yards. Know what's next next is going to take away washington because of the life that that our our first president lived. That's what's next long before we start you know saying I three meters at the twenty at twenty seven anyway. What it's almost ridiculous. Red wool is more ridiculous. I don't care about that. I just don't like it's just rubbing salt in the wound. Like hey you want it so many of you people out there wanted the name change. The names have been changed since how you're going to rub salt in the wound and call them football team early on in that season again. I mean your your precious. Don't just disappear day stop you know again the the the the i don't honestly i just want him to be good this year and i think by the time we got to the end of the year. No one was saying football team anymore. But i just heard it today. I never heard it well. We heard we heard it in an early season game. One of the announcers said i down football team. I forget who it was now But it was. I down football team. I mean i admire the fact that you're still so sensitive terrific organization some level fried to to call upon. Well how how about just the fact that something like that would bother me on opening day. I should be more in opening day Real quickly before we get. why not. why. Not the washington senators. Because we've been there that there used to be a football team in washington called the senators. What football team was called the senators up professional football team in the early nineteen twentieth. Recall the washington senators really so we had baseball team a football team. We were like the cardinals where we had a baseball team in a football team by the same name. Arana places like that. You're right the poco dodger yet if the football team as well right yep so why. Not washington senators. I'm just kidding okay. Let's end this conversation. I did want to mention one thing. And then we'll get to your. We'll get to an preview for the season so Todd mcshay put out. I'm trying to check with the version is whatever it's to its version four point. Oh for him. Mock draft It is two rounds Runarounds one into First of all in the first round he has washington selecting christian. Dare saw the offensive tackle from virginia tech. I've seen him walk to washington a lot and he said that the signing of curtis samuel means washington likely won't take florida receiver. Could area's tony. I would disagree with that. I would think the combination of samuel and adam humphreys means that they don't feel like they have this massive need. But let me just say if canarias tony's the number one player on their board at nineteen. They should take area's tony. 'cause he looks like a major difference maker potentially at the next level beyond that. What i wanted to get to was when he gets to their second. Round selection at fifty one overall. He has washington selecting kellyn monde quarterback texas a. and m. and mcshea writes. The next best quarterback was out of range for washington in round one but selecting monde. Who could sit behind. Ryan fitzpatrick and taylor heineke. All season here is selecting him. Here is smart. His accuracy and mechanics will still have to develop but monde has arm strength the ability to extend plays. He's my sixth ranked quarterback but comes in at number eighty nine overall. So he's got him as his number eighty nine big board player and he suggests that washington should take him fifty one and then at fifty two. He's got the bears taking kyle. Trask so those are the next two quarterbacks to go after the the five go in the first round the five that everybody expects to spend the first round. I know national guys. I mean a a guy like toxic shea and you disagree with me about this. You think which is feeding more plugged in in this sense. He says he could sit behind. Ryan patrick and taylor heineke. Doesn't he know that. The coaches favorite quarterback is kyle allen. That's his favorite quarterback. Yes but taylor. Heineke got the bigger contract and the guaranteed money. So but that's because they hi hat. I mean they didn't have to do that. Kyle right and there's questions about him but with the injury coming back. But the coach of all the quarterbacks that we can document any kind of love. There's love for kyle out Coats yeah i mean so real quickly. I'm i'm just not a kellyn mon- fan at all. It's funny ryan wilson and i got into this conversation because he suggested monde in the second round as well anybody that watched can in junior year texas a and m. There's no chance that you would have thought of him as a guy that could go. In the first two rounds he was inaccurate. Wildly inaccurate made bad. Plays bad decision maker. Had some horrific games had some decent games to this year. You know there were a couple of games where he was really good but they were against bad defensive teams. They beat florida early in the year and he had the game of his career in. Its these single game. I believe that really elevated his stature From a guy that was probably a middle round pick to potentially you know a guy that could could get selected in the second round florida. I'll just remind everybody that is a college football fan out there and for those. That aren't with a terrible defensive team this year and absolute horrendous defensive team but he had a great game in a game that ultimately probably along with the lsu loss knocked florida out of contention florida defensively and alabama for that You know was neither one of those. Two teams was great defensively and he had a decent game against bama to he rushed for nearly one hundred yards through for like two seventy and a couple of touchdowns and so people are pointing to the games against against alabama and Florida to one bad defensive team. One very average defensive team as sort of games in which. Hey he really turned the corner. I remember early in the season when they played clemson last year. He wasn't very good. He was terrible. In fact in an easy loss to clemson. They had the ball in a in a lot of positions to do stuff with it. He had a couple of turnovers in that game. I don't want kellyn mind. I would be. I would be fine with kyle. Trask round but i did put a poll out this morning. Tommy i put a poll out Because the draft is one month from tonight you know. Four weeks from tonight is the first round of the nfl draft. And i put a pull out and if you want to vote you just go to. Kevin sheehan at kevin sheehan. Dc twitter I put a pull out the. Nfl draft starts a month from tonight. Do you want washington football not not washington football team hashtag washington football to draft a qb and if so when and the three answers were yeah view rounds one or two jadu but not until rounds three through seven so more of a developmental guy. 'cause if you draft somebody in the first or second round you're sort of saying we think this guy's got this guy is going to be the future. He's gonna sit behind ryan fitzpatrick for year. And then he's going to be our guy you know in two thousand twenty two and then. The third potential answer was no. You don't want them to draft well. Number one was yes rounds. Three through seven forty nine point one percent. The second answer was no. They don't wanna quarterback drafted in the third answer is yes in rounds one or two twenty point five percent of the vote. I do not. I hope they don't draft quarterback in rounds one or two unless somebody that they really liked dry drops into their lap. I certainly don't want him to trade up to get anybody I'm excited about ryan. Fitzpatrick and i think ryan fitzpatrick could be the quarterback for not only next year but the year after so that they could be shooting. Maybe for twenty twenty three to have a quarterback you know their quarterback of the future and by the way to your point. I think they still do. Like kyle. Allen i think they like taylor heineke to a certain degree neither one of them is costing them anything right now. Somebody mentioned well. Why not trade for sam darnold. Maybe you can get him for a third the big issue with darnold. Is you got to play him right away. Because he's got the fifth year option that you're gonna have to pick up and then you're going to have to pay him right now. Washington's quarterback salaries are like combined twelve million in cap space next year. That's incredible like a bargain different from where they were right so Anyway i thought he i. I've seen more and more guys starting to think washington in john crime reported this. He does not think they're done at quarterback. I actually talked to john on the radio in and talk to him off the air. John's convinced that they are looking for their quarterback of the future And it may happen in this draft. I don't think they're going to draft a quarterback that you would that you would walk of meaning rounds one or two where you would say that's guy and by the way a second round guy isn't always the answer either But well first round guy is always the answer but anyway Saw your poll. By the way i always per. I always participate in your pulse. Oh that's nice. Is that off the conversation the other day. Yes actually i voted and edit a comet. This time I'd say only a quarterback coached by john back. Okay new quarterback guru. Who's the new quarterback of all these guys go to to prepare for it or combine days and stuff. I think he he. Trevor warrants this guy. Who does i think john. Back beck's quarterback guru. Are you being serious. Yes oh i didn't know very serious. Oh i'm not joking. I honestly did not know that. That forty i i mean i know that that guy avery is and the guy terry shea in the past and all those names i tommy. I swear to god. I didn't know that i didn't that. I think if let me just say no. I'm i'm looking at it right now. nfl veteran. John beck who now works as a motion mechanics instructor this year. He's been able to train top quarterbacks for the upcoming draft. Including zack wilson. Justin fields kyle. Trask and k j carlo there. You go a quarterback for now. Wow god he was just some people. 'cause like no doubt sometimes best coaches end up being guys who were very mediocre players anyway. i was gonna say something else about the draft but i guess that's it I wanna get your thoughts on the net season. We'll do that right after this word from one of our sponsors. 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We hope to see you there breaking news throughout this podcast here recording at this morning the latest is the mets nationals game tonight according to buster olney postponed regarding covid issues also ron rivera spoken. We'll get to that. But i You don't have to go to the ballpark tonight. Unless you want to. Just go hang out by yourself. Maybe they've got the food. They're still waiting for you No no opening night. Tonight for matt for mets nationals. How how severe is this cova thing gotten. That's a major embarrassment for baseball major major embarrassment for the nationals. I mean to have the opening. Well because teams have taken a certain pride. In the way they've been able to control this virus And and the discipline that has been shown among their players and look the washington. Football team has put their chests pout. for the way they handle they'd rightfully so they deserve credit And and compliments for that but I mean i wear people are getting vaccinated left and right there and even though there's the there's a surge in some sense that that the positive tests are going up there's still this is atmosphere of getting over it and to cancel opening day because the kovin major barris. I don't see. I don't see it that way. All there's th- that would that would not have been my reaction to it. I'm glad have a column now to write for tomorrow morning. Major embarrassment I look if he if teams aren't doing their best to keep cove it out of their building and you and and we we know that like remember with the issue with the ravens last year and one of the trainers or whatever going maskless. The whole thing that's one thing and maybe this will reveal something that the nationals did. That was stupid other than that. If you were doing everything you're supposed to be doing. Then you know it's chance i don't see it as a major embarrassment and chance you can't your organization. Your business can't be embarrassed by something that's beyond your control. No not not not not not because of something that's beyond their control. Embarrassment is all about public perception. Yeah well i'm telling you. I'm part of the public. I'm i don't feel. I don't feel like they should be embarrassed. And less and less it comes out that they you had a bunch of dudes at some superspreader Thing in florida three nights ago. Okay so if that comes out. That's different but i i don't get through spring training without any anything like this and to have this happen on opening day. There's no way that this is nothing but an embarrassment for baseball particularly to national. I don't understand how you don't big as last year went in when they were when miami had those games cancelled. Saint louis had those games. Cancel one one. Soto had the false positive and missed a bunch of games. I never considered it to be an embarrassment. The ravens something. Everybody was dealing with it. Then yeah everybody's feeling within now to how do we know the. What if three more teams have you. Don't think the team that's going to have an issue here. I don't know you tell me. How many do you know about that eye opening day because the cove i have no idea well as of now. Nobody else's canceled their opening day. But that's just a matter of timing timing and chance why on nightly news tonight the washington nationals will make the news because they had to cancel their game because they had positive cova tests right okay. That's an embarrassment i. It's their fault. Your fault doesn't matter whose fault it is. okay. I think that's incredibly harsh And i don't think they have anything to walk again if they've been doing everything if they've been following all of the major league baseball protocols and somebody got covert and it led to the cancellation of a game I don't think it's an embarrassing event. I think it's unfortunate event But you know the good news is. They didn't have a game scheduled for tomorrow night. Let's see what happens with tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow i'll tell you what it'll be a better. I think it's going to be a little less windy tomorrow night but still called But not like better but anyway The other thing as we have been recording this podcast Ron rivera held a press conference and so far Through that this press conference he he did say that ryan fitzpatrick will enter training camp. As the first string quarterback he will be number one on the depth chart. Buddy said there will be a competition. Is exactly what i predicted. He would say after the fitzpatrick signing. I said he's going to be clear. That fitzpatrick is the number one quarterback. But he's gonna talk about it being a competition between everybody. That's there He was also asked if he's done adding to the quarterback room ron rivera said and. I'm quoting from ben standings Twitter page quote will see And then he added the obvious caveat so you never know how the board on folds right okay all right so we don't have game to talk about tonight but we do have a team to talk about in the nationals. In the kind of season that they're going to have And this conversation about the nats as we get ready for baseball season is brought to you by mybookie march was a great time at my bookie day had so much with the nc double a. but now With baseball season starting you can take a swing at the mlb lock of the season with a bet. 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Kevin dc bet the over on a half a run in dodgers rockies and you're guaranteed to win unless somehow it ends up zero zero forfeit but if that happens because a covert or anything else. The battle voided bet. Anything anywhere anytime with my bookie at mybookie dot ag. Don't forget my bonus code kevin. Dc that's kevin dc my promo code at mybookie dot ag. The over under the nats who wins this year is eighty four and a half. You're going over under and why. I go over slightly not by much though. Are you worried about the division. Well yeah. I mean look They they've got some issues Carter kibo was not as turned out to be the replacement for anthony. Don't which means that they have to play a guy like josh harrison. Who's good and were lucky to have him I as an everyday player for the most part at second base. In place starling castro. I thirst Which you know. It's totally weakens. Their team there a stronger team. When josh harrison is is a is a bench player he role player as opposed to start or no no knock on him. So they're they're weaker Without their plans starting third baseman defensively and berry saluda pointed this out in today's post. They got a lot of questions. Kosh forber out in the outfield. I know dave martinez swears by them but They they've got some issues defensively and when you rely on starting pitching you like to have a great defense to back them up They just got too many questions. The braves are the defending champions. I liked the braves rotation Coming back and Unless the mets are in self destruct mode they have a tremendous rotation to deal with even though the nationals due to. I think look i think i don't know if any team will win. Ninety games in a it could be close. I mean you know the mets or the braves could win the division with with eighty eight or eighty nine wins But i think first second third could be separated by two games. Yeah i mean every single time we have this conversation every year for the last several specially you know since this organization decided that starting pitching was the most important thing in rizzo's obviously denigrate job with that. If they're starting pitching stays healthy. They're going to go over eighty four and a half. They've got more offense in the lineup than they did last year when they were without. You know anthony rundown for the first time Bell in schwab. Give him real power to go with an mvp candidate lift. Not you know front runner in one soto along with trae turner. I'll be interested to see if the robe lists leading off with soto hitting second and turner hitting third. You know in an effort to get soto more bats and by the way with turner coming behind him less chance that he gets intentionally walked. All of that stuff makes sense to me You know. I'm not an analytic space bald guy but the the more at bats more importantly i think it makes more sense that you know so does not sitting there hit fourth with a potential guy behind him that you can you know. Put him on base But robles getting on base will be key but it's their starting pitching in. It's their starting pitching staying healthy last year. Obviously a didn't strasberg's had a couple of nixon knacks already i really i think this year for me. I'm rooting for him. As much as i'm rooting for anybody else. So i want the team to do well. But i want strasbourg to stay healthy. I want them to have a year in which he actually legitimately contends for the cy young which you know right now. You've got the two front runners that were scheduled to go tonight. I guess they'll go tomorrow night. In sherzer against degrom i want a once strasburg tommy to back up his huge postseason moments and he's add major postseason moment starting with that game for wrigley but obviously game six against houston in the world series. A one him to back it up with a fully healthy regular season where we get the best of strasbourg from april through the end of september. i'm really rooting for him. I i think is starting pitching stays healthy. They're going to be really tough. You can tell me as to whether or not this bullpens going to include some sort of rotation with hand in hudson and anybody else sort of matchup driven or hands going to be given the job as the primary closer You understand more than i about schwarzer in left field in the defensive deficiencies of some of their players. I think it is interesting. That zimmerman was red hot spring and whether or not they'll they'll platoon him with bell War you know You know. I know that that people say that zimmerman against left handers seems like at least the obvious place to plug him into start but with him. In recent years it's been staying healthy to I did want to ask you. How disappointed do you think they are in the carter. Key boom experiment experiment. I think you've gotta be. I mean are they given up on him with. I don't know. I don't know i'm not there. I don't know if they have given up on him so I i can't answer that. But he's supposed to look. They had a written in replacements for for bryce harper. And that was that was wants soda. Yes and they thought they had a written in replacement for anti rangoon. Encarta keep him and they don't know apparently at least right now. So yeah. that's that's a big problem for them. One of the keys in this year could be victor roadways. I mean figaro. Blaze has the kind of year remember. He was the prospect who was unplayable. Coming up you know. He was the guy that everybody wanted and they would never trade and He took a step back last year. But but you gotta chalk that up to a very bizarre year for everyone involved. So i don't necessarily hold that against them but affect the roadways can emerge as the as the five tool player. They think he is a guy who could hit. Twenty five home runs still thirty. Five aces drive in eighty runs as a leadoff hitter. You know and Played great defense in center field. That could be the game changer. Right there if he's a radical They can't afford for him to be erotic. Let's just say that. Yeah no that makes sense to me. it's it's it's it's a brutal schedules. We talked about early to start. I mean this nineteen thirty one trying to avoid a a tough start if they if they avoid that and they can flip it around or you know they're twenty f- through through fifty games. They're twenty seven and twenty three with that schedule. I mean that would be awfully promising If they're healthy. I mean that was obviously the big thing last year no ren dawn and unhealthy especially With starting pitching in. And if they stay healthy i mean i know the braves were really good last year. And i know everybody's behind the mets and some people think the phillies marlins are going to be very competitive as well. But you know. There's no reason the defending champions from two years ago but the real the defending champions along with the dodgers can't you know contend for a playoff spot this year And go over. Eighty four and a half. I think that was a really good point too with as many times as they're gonna play each other you know the the division winner might end up with ninety two three wins something like that although the total for the For the braves in in season winds is ninety one and a half seven more than the nats. So there you go. I think i it's. It's it's it's not the kind of Division where you can afford to give away the first week okay. Well they're gonna play the other one hundred and fifty nine anyway even if you're fifty six anyway if you give away that first week long season yes it is well. Maybe it's not a long season so far it's it's it's not a long season Start yet more likely. Soto wins the national league. Mvp shergar wins the national league. Cy young soto and national league. Mvp i mean it's just scherzer's on the downside age wise even if he's still is good I mean i liked to guam. They might as well put his name on the cy young at this point With with an improved. Mets team But so they mentioned sotos. Name with ted williams. I mean and baseball experts do that. Not just a fancy. That's that's rarefied air. So what's he's very. He's very likable. He's easy to vote for so that'll be my last question for the show today. I i asked. Zach this and i'm sure i've asked you this before as well but i'm gonna ask it again because i don't remember what your answer was. Did they have any idea that wants soto. Had this kind of potential before you know before they saw it did. What were they really expecting you. You know mike. Rizzo really well. They obviously felt comfortable with letting bryce harper go. But what did they think wants soda was going to be. Did they think they had the next ed williams. No i think they thought he'd be good. And i think they were impressed with his composure. And his his his his personal makeup as much as his talent. You know there were other. I mean he had made a verbal agreement to sign with the nationals and a couple of other teams came along based on the. I think the espn article. That's passing wrote about him. Like san diego and another team came along before he signed a deal with washington and offered a more money and he said no. I gave my word that i was signed with washington and he did so they. They knew they had somebody special in terms of makeup. I don't think anyone's said ted williams. Maybe did i never heard it. I remember seeing them for the first time a couple years ago in spring training. We really haven't heard much about him. He wound up playing a spring. Training game had a couple of hits. I think a couple of doubles and And we interviewed him on a minor league side of the ballpark. He wasn't even after the game because he dressed with the minor leaguers go over to the minor league clubhouse to interview them And just just like how he he this is. This is not a political thing. It's just shows you kind of guy how smart this guy is. He made a point of learning speak english pretty fluently at an early stage of his career in the minor leagues when he was with hagerstown. You know Because he knew that would help him you that would help and communicate and He he's a special kind of guy so far. I mean there's nothing political about that. And i know that you you said it but i mean to me that is that is you know a level of maturity understand first of all for anybody in any country to aspire to learn and be fluent in a second language. There's nothing wrong with it especially if it's going to help you professionally. That's just smart on that that that actually says a lot about him. I didn't you know. I didn't necessarily know that One last thing before we go so you know standing in all the guys are tweeting out and nikki. All of them are tweeting out about rivera. Rivera says about the quarterback situation. I already mentioned that. He said fitzpatrick is number. One going in but there will be a competition. He also said that he doesn't feel pressure to add the long term quarterback now quote if you put all the other pieces in place when that guy shows up you can grab them went the other way and carolina because cam newton was there in the draft but it took time to fill out the roster now the follow up to that would be. Yeah but you did. Go for matt stafford. You know they went form. He was there for the getting and they went after. I guess that's what he is saying to. When that guy shows up you can grab them and they tried to grab one this year even without having all of the other pieces in place but i. I don't think they're going to get their long term quarterback this year. I just don't see it i. I would bet against that and to me. A quarterback being drafted in round three through seven doesn't mean that they believe that. That guy is a quarterback of the future that means they've got a developmental guy who may or may not make the roster now if he gets picked in the third round that's a little bit different but anyway he also mentioned. There have been no talks with brandon. Sheriff on a long term deal One a repeat that mybookie at mybookie dot ag mybookie at mybookie dot ag has a lock today or go to mybookie dot ag use. My promo code kevin dc. They're giving you an absolute lock on an over under bet on the dodgers versus rockies. Game right they're putting the total at a half of a run. Our games can end zero zero so at the over. It's a bet guaranteed to win. They're giving you that opportunity today. The game starts this afternoon. Four ten eastern so dodgers rockies go to mybookie dot ag and take the free money on the dodgers rockies opening day Over under a total of a half of a run it's guaranteed. Yeah by the way. Buster only also reporting that friday's game. It's post friday a possibility of a game. Friday's not going to happen. Well then this is more than just a one off with four people in contact tracing. There's an outbreak. I would i would. I would say seem so. Yeah this this is a. This is a dumpster fire. Okay whatever i it's it's Well why don't we wait for all we know. The mets have a bunch of of positive tests. To i have reported the mets have no positive. Tests will then again. The mets may not have any positive tests Did did buster report that. On the mets mets writer reported that. Okay all right well. they're gonna plenty of time plenty of time to make these games. And you're not going to remember in mid mayor mid june that you missed out on the first couple a days of the season you got some memory problems. You gotta start eating more blueberries. I like blueberries superfoods. Tommy focus on the superfoods. By the way sean taylor would have been thirty eight years old today crazy All right What do you got planned now that you don't have to go to a baseball game. I'm gonna go out and get some lunch and go watch some Rockford we'll but you've got baseball on all day. You're not gonna watch baseball opening day. I'm depressed now. it's too bad You gotta get into betting. His betting opening days. I don't bet baseball really during the regular season much but opening day i'll have a couple of sides today i tr- trust me on that. I enjoy i'm back tomorrow We will certainly preview the final four. A we won't have an ask game to talk about. But we'll do a lot more. On the ron rivera press conference from today focusing on some of the things he said in more detail have a great day everybody tommy. I'll talk to you next week.

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2021-04-02 - KSR - Hour 2

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You play gaining again that looking at you the entire time. I didn't all of them to you but that's from our tiger for less. Nicholas nicholson is sending us photos in his gallery. He probably has six or seven of gilliam up into space. You gotta do a poster awesome. Speaking of that we're here. Chaos bar and grill. It's a sweet sixteen. George rogers clark and e. town are tipping off. I got the spreads oh favorites by the way or seven and one covering spread so far the only the only underdog to cover also one. Which was george rogers clark. They are the only team that has the only underdog that has covered spread. So let's do this here guys town playing george. Rogers clark e. town is a non point favorite. What do you got. I got to roll with the town. I mean they. They looked really good in the first round. I know george. Rogers clark is the only cover but i think it's the end of the road. Yeah i i like. I think he towns really good. George rogers clark got right there at the start and it's two to nothing so free points getting right there. That's right so you're getting some free points. I think i'm going down as well. What about you. i think i'm gonna town drew. Said they've looked really good. And i think. They're probably gonna take down. George rogers clark like i said you can't trust anybody three names. So here's this game. I think this game for the state title to be quite frank with ballard and bowling green. I think the winner ends up cutting down. The nets ballard as a four point favorite. It's two o'clock if you're a high school basketball fan and kentucky get to a computer. What's the website. Hr s f in f h s network in f h s network. So nfl team in each team nfl network. Two o'clock is ballard and bowling green. Like i said those two teams are playing this round ballads. A four point favorite. What do you got. I got bowling green and the upset. I watched bowling. Green's first game all the way through our very impressed. Buttery is like the greatest basketball player i've ever seen. He didn't miss a shot. Three quarter court shot. You got you football. Commit dingle inside. I'm rolling with bowling. Going bowling green to i mean they got too big dudes. Dingle big do they got another ham. And then they got a kid going into eastern buttery. Who was the number one. Play on sportscenter. Last two nights ago he shoots ninety five percent on free throws with like well over one hundred tips. Ninety five ninety ninety five. So you're telling me. I'm getting four. Yeah getting four for town. Excuse me for bowling green. I'll take bowling. Green ashland is a seven point. Favorite against the fighting. Larry vaults hunter gillum is gonna be all up in. Somebody's grill. ashlin seven point five. Oh sorry shannon. You didn't pick between green greenberg. Go ahead i will. With bowling green boeing grades universe ashland send point favorite on boil can bet against ashland last night tough law. That game was over when it started. So i learned my lesson not doing it again. I'll take ashland ashland. What's funny is they could won by a lot more. They missed ten layups in the first half. I'm taking ashland to cover as well. What do you have an avalanche. The guy with the guy that stares everybody down right correct yes. Ooh it's hard to pick against that guy. And i kind of like them now but also really like larry hot. I'm going to revive. The fatty larry legend to may you do you do love larry. Vaughn finally highlands who was also the high school term. It's been the top ten on sportscenter. Two nights in a row highlands headed dude last night. Throw it off the back for another. Did you see that play. No no dude from highlands was dribbling food off the backboard to a guy shorter made who to hand jammed. It and they made at the top ten on sportscenter kind of deserved. It is an eleven point. Favorite tonight against mccracken. County is gonna win. But that's a lot of points. So i'm gonna take mccracken to cover. They were in here last night. They look to me to be focused and ready. I say they cover the eleven. What do you got. I don't think they win. I think they cover. The i mean holland's wins by thirty yesterday and the team. They beat got beat so bad they brought everyone they know to as bar so i'm going to root for highlands to keep pounding teams over here for dinner. So i'm going to take holland's to cover. I think most of mccracken cantey came last night. I'm not sure if they'll be back so i they've had their trips. I'm taking mccracken the cover. What do you got for me. This is a classic case. If you can't beat them join them. Mccracken county took out bullets yesterday. Going mccracken county today. All right there you go with shannon. And i we agree on every pick no. He went with the fighting. Larry vaults five. Oh two five seven. Let's go a couple pieces of news. Cow tucker yesterday reported a story where he talked to the father of the three players who are still trying to decide what to do. David minutes kion brooks and isaiah jackson. Let's start with the. I think the one the to well first of all i'd say jackson's dad says if he's not a lottery pick projected. He'll come back you surprised. I'm very surprised and to be honest. I don't know the family. But i don't really believe that i mean either. I think he's to potentially be a lottery. Pick and i think you just have to take that chance to me. He's going to go kind of on the border of the law. Like i don't think so. I don't know how you would decide that. Because i think he will be either right at the end of the lottery or right at the beginning of not the lottery and so i don't know i mean you could come back and move up ten fifteen places where you can come back and not look any better something even worse and i just think the risk reward. I think that opportunity we've had twelve years a cow the amount of people that have come back that have that i thought were leaving is to harrison. They're only two and there wasn't even they weren't really blow to go because they wanted to go to be out. I mean nobody. Else i thought. Pj washington ended up coming back. I thought willie would end up coming back. I thought well. I was a little surprised by terrence jones back in the day but it was a different time back then too but i was a little surprised by him but really the i thought the harrison twins were gone and they came back other than that. They always go. So i'm just gonna assume goes and if he comes back i'll be really happy and the way count talks about how guys that are. Projected encounter that position. And what was it doin wagner. They got hurt back in the day. That is always scared. Him from bringing guys back. I probably even saying man. Go get your money and be a pro. He says davis mints and kion brooks well first of all david minutes. Basically it's up to date on man's really no no news on him but the interesting one was keen on brooks who is either deciding. Nba or come back to you k. His dad says he will not transfer. That's actually good news. Because there were some rumors around that might. Maybe he would transfer some people. It's in indiana. It looks like no matter what he'll either start his pro career or come back. I think that's a good sign for kentucky. Don't you wouldn't even an hour. After the tournament. Loss and people are already given three schools. He was potentially looking at so. There's a lot of transfer talks so his dad coming out saying it's gonna be back to you k. Or try the pros. It sounds like much better as a fan. I'm hoping he comes back. I definitely improve on his draft stock but he hasn't decided to to test the waters for my purposes. I look at it as you need. Re three big guys. That are good. I don't totally trust lance. Wear yet. So i'd like to have kion because then i think with him college and she boy i feel good about having three if brooks came back. I'd feel great about our big acid and then it's just. Can you find the point guard. Really yeah and lance and su swee are both just put your foot on the block and rebounded dunk. Kinda guys kion. He can be a stretch for that. I think could really useful and how we're we're all hoping uk starts playing. Yeah so Interesting news the news. I think is the most interesting i mean. I think that's that's a good sign because there was a lot. There are a lot of people who kind of thought you know what he might end up going somewhere else. And i'm glad to see that's not the case. Crispier took the texas job and it looks like the texas tech people are as opposite as we would have thought the texas tech a a press conference where he goes up. We tried and he just left. I don't know what i think about that. The lead columnist the lead columnist in lubbock had some strong words. You should look up his column. It was basically like they're going to have to install something to protect chris beard when he comes back ear next year so the bitterness that i wondered about looks like it will be there and if i'm not mistaken he just signed that huge deal with them last year and they're building my practice facility that they really taken care of him and he not only just left them behind after all. These promises just went right down to the road team. They're going to keep playing. So i i want a huge huge twelve scheduled comes out. I wanted out. I'm circling the date. That texas goes to texas tech. It goes to show man. You can give texas tech the best success. They've ever had like literally ever and they'll still hate you if you go to the rival school. Yeah and he's he's got great players that texas. It's not like well you know about start losing to hear when you get out for. It's bad i mean the future's bright he just got mac mccloy transferred their last year. Other transfers great situation. You hadn't still longhorn interests to wants to backfire. Strong thoughts about chris beard either way. He's fine whatever boring basketball but now that he's done this big villain. I'm moving on to the bigger texas. I hope texas tech beaten be interesting to see five. Seven one eighty. Who's up next year. John john short. How are you doing good. Okay now sometimes sixty i think. Listen i think. I can squeeze this audience through nineteen nineties country if i if i do a nineteen sixties country bracket. I think john. I will lose the audience. I think that's one. We're probably just you. And i can do it one day here at the bar house that that'd be great all right. Well what else you got. Joe semiconductor vanderbilt of any bill. The shows that. I love over the years. How much shade and his hated the vanderbilt coaches. You still think they should have kevin stallings don't you his coach in the program's history. He can't argue that that's true connects. Tokyo did not work. No no not at all. That was a huge huge mistake. Go ahead john okay. We love to say last night in tonight. the game. seven o'clock in the morning is a sweet soccer. You say and one of our players you have to use the patriots. And that's i appreciate the call. They lost a mississippi state. You know mississippi state top five so it was good to see how they would go against them. They were competitive able to win. I hope they at least listened. They've done great so far this year. I hope they can at least get one of these next two. I mean we awesome. They went in both win the series but win one. Don't get sweat. I mean sweeping auburn last week in a row series is huge for them gives them a lot of leeway. Yeah now if The city will ever get its weather figured out. I'm looking forward to getting out there and seeing them in person because it could be a fun afternoon funny teen in five. Yeah i mean they're they're they're really good so i agree i. I'm glad skipped the reds game yesterday by the way it was wild seeing snow all over major league baseball yesterday. I mean shannon. Yeah we had it on here. And i look up all of a sudden and it's the first inning and it six to nothing and that i didn't drive up there. That did you see the play where the reds had bases loaded and there was a fly ball to left one out the guy tags up from third but then the guy from second base apparently thinks the two outs he runs. The third gets doubled up and the guy tagging from third isn't able to score they get double and that's the play. Yeah i'm really glad i didn't go. I got a good price for those tickets too. So that was one of the better transactions have made in a while. We had fun watching baseball in high school here. Funday running back today. We had a lot of fans who came here to watch it and by the second inning. Most of them had been like you know what it was fun. Man see next year. It'd be the rest of the season for you. You stood up to five seven hundred ten eighty so i said you have our guy. Yeah richard young is going to be on next segment with us from the kentucky had says he knows what he's coming on about. Yes i've texted him. Workin you got break. The news is going to be awkward now spine fine but awkward as what we do best here. Yeah and if you want awkward we will be on the phone with the kentucky headhunters when we return to talk to that jones and the crew. Call the clark's pop shop online at five. Oh five one. Ten eighty or one eight seven seven nine fourteen eighty or so does the kentucky brandt tweet of the day by twenty matt at kyi sports radio. Thanks for listening to kentucky. Sports radio on talk radio. Tammy quarterback sports radio biology five seven one eighty breaking news. We'll talk about it in a minute. Bill self assigned a lifetime deal with kansas. That's an all time. Ks are curse right there. I literally just guaranteed. He'd be gone next year and he's a lifetime deal the same day. I think we should get a cut. Speaking happened one percent really is unbelievable. We are now joined on the phone by richard. Young lead singer of the kentucky headhunters richard. Thank you very much for coming on. Oh it's my pleasure shannon Just because i was telling you. We're we're playing the nashville north carolina which you know with all this went on last year with the The monster we call it now. ovid We cancelled or lose seventy shows Including some in canada and we only wound up playing h. o. So what happens. We plan is we you know. Even we've done this fifty two years if you don't do something consistently you can get rusty so We sat around all year. And then we have our fig in march shows cancelled or moved this year so we decided we were just. We had to do something to keep super bowl so we went and we just got out of the studio. Got the last mix doing on our new album. That'll be coming out awesome. But you don't really helped us get back in In shape too. Because i know i know what we would do as as we would go into the studio I mean we would go down here on our farnborough music houses we've had since the sixties and we would bring ideas in and we would play all this out and put together and we've always prided ourselves going in the studio and being able to knock out the tracks three days and it wasn't to be this time and we sat around and looked at each other for days so we remembered how to play you know and you know when you have been together as long as we have we kind of have a sixth sense of asia we can read each other's minds and once. We figured out that we can do still do that. Then everything came like riding a bicycle but it. It was a very interesting moment so here. Well i'm glad to hear you guys are doing another album back on the road. Got a question for you all right so we are doing them ninety s country music bracket and right now. We had a first round match. It was you all with dumas walker versus cowboy. Take me away by the dixie chicks. We held vote amongst all of us on the show and do miss walker was the winner. It was upset in the bracket where fifteen seat and they were a and you beat them. Because that's we like to miss walker that much but then well hang on let me finish. Let me finish richard. Hang on. I got to give you all the specifics before you answer. Then we found out we looked online that the duma walker song were not sure. Did it come out. Nine thousand nine hundred eighty nine or did it come out in one thousand nine hundred. Ninety came out in nineteen ninety. You're moving to the next round. It came out in eighty nine. Then we have to pull it and we don't know it's looks like the sort of online. There's a little bit of info both ways so i wanted to get you to make the case when did do miss walker come out. Okay well guys. Here's here's the thing is And there's a quick story. I'll tell you about the walker It was the album. Picking nashville was released on october. Nineteen nineteen eighty nine but the first single off of that album was fox awfully and it ran through like january or february because they kept pushing and work. It's hard because it was. We were so different than anything else on country. We got a lot of resistance radio and finally we got to the point to where people were playing it so it actually ran into Probably february march of The next year so you know even though it was included in the body of the album is if you look at it from a wreck from a record company standpoint it would be released probably around february first march of nineteen ninety so it would be considered a nineteen ninety release. There you go all you need so you so you would put it as if i were to say to. You winded do walker. Come out you would say nineteen ninety would absolutely say that yes. Settle interesting story before talk. Okay go ahead one minute. Go ahead when we were to mastering client Stering picking on nashville pedal she. The prisoner label took me in a back room. He said richard. I'm going to try one more time. I wish you would pull this. Domus walker saw off the album and and i said while harold to regional. It's too regal about you guys. And where you're from and i said now you don't get it man. Everybody's gotta do ms walker. They can relate to the thought behind the saw and boy. I'm sure glad. I won that battle. He had no kidding so they really tried to pull that song off your album. That's one of the craziest things i've ever heard. I know and of course. I mean obviously we. You know right record company. People have grown down there sometime and sometimes they need to just wreck the ban like sation. Yeah you know then. That doesn't mean we're smarter than them. It's just we've probably done with walker for three years in our set list and we knew what it did the people so we would have been foolish mistake to taking it off he. We wouldn't be talking right now. I would ask you know what that's probably true. Well let me tell you real quick before. I let you go richard. We have all the state with this show. And i go down in that area of where you where you guys are from you know. Monroe county green. Canny all that stuff in that area and like everywhere. I go from lancaster. County down all everywhere. I go areas. People love you guys. And it's i. I love your connection to your home and i really appreciate you taking the time to come on the appreciate you guys thinking in. Yes we've been blessed and we've lived the charmed life but being able to go out and do a little rock and roll thing on the weekends or maybe we go to. England can wherever see prices. But it's always we have a landing strip that's why the band's loans that and the fact that we're family I come back to a safe place. Well thank you. Good luck with your touring. And we'll talk soon appreciate it. Thank you homeboys. Yeah we'll figure it out when we return. I think we gotta go on the show for yeah owner now more of the sports radio prison to stop the mortgage loans you know. I forgot about this until he said it. And i haven't thought about this on a long time. But i know what i'm gonna to be listening to him. I drive a lot of kentucky hanters walk. i'd forgotten because you know i tuna long. We'll look man at this point. I said this yesterday. I'm easily bought out when it comes to people who like you know like when it comes to all that like i came on the show right. And he made his case. He said he considers it a ninety song. It won the grammy for best album in actually ninety one because it was considered nineties album and even though it was released eighty nine. I don't know how that works. This is i guess. Yeah so. I think i'm gonna keep them in. I'm flipping my vote. I say we keep the head hunters in. I was leaning that direction. Just because i can also be bought. And he came on the show and it's good to hear from him. But i'm also being very diligent in my research and i continued to research during the break and i found that cowboy take me away came out in november of nineteen ninety nine which means it was only in the nineties for a month which i also hurts. Its argument here. So i am going with duma's walker book in the. It didn't even appear on the billboards till the year. Two thousand so really so that adding that to him coming on the show. I'm back with the head hunters advancing interesting man. I didn't realize that they didn't come out till it was released. November nineteen hundred their first album. So they i sort of think of them as a ninety ban but are they actually like to thousands band kind of It was their second single so their album. Their first one ready to roy was at their first one at least on. This album is ready to run again. Why here's your chance that's right. Yeah i think we gotta goes. So there's there's there's trouble take me away. You say ready to run. Is that on the first album. Well that's on the album with take me away. Their first album. That really made any noise was wide open spaces. Okay andy eight late. Still nineties band and goodbye earl. One as take away and that's a heck of an album. The look of a two thousand album has a good. Yeah so walker moves cowboys. He's gonna the bracket. I'm sorry brandy but you couldn't get natalie maintain here. Yeah well she still has twenty minutes tracking be robot can point if they both brought us. We could go either way. The final four is tomorrow. We of course have gonzaga went up against ucla baylor houston two west coast teams two texas teams. First of all does any do any of you believe. Ucla has any chance of beating gonzaga. No i mean they've looked great. I mean if they're unfounded four from the plane game so they've been awesome gonzaga's just too good. That's kinda outfielder shannon any chance that you can get ucla champion. Shell like if you saying goes off for forty. Ucla will still only score about fifty and that's not enough to beat gonzaga's while kokin zag. This march madness. It's why we love it. You never know. I mean i hate to bring it up. But we weren't supposed to lose to wisconsin things happen. That's true but wisconsin was better than ucla right now but one game scenario. You never know our baylor houston. I think that's going to be great game. I picked baylor. I think baylor win but houston. They're good simply they're so tough. Those guys have been through the wars. A lot of them are saying guys. Play against a couple of years ago. I'm gonna take baylor abiding. it'd be a good game. Talk about teams. I just have no emotion either direction for. I'm for baylor just because of the two. I think they have a better chance of beating saga. But i really whoever comes out of that. I'll be for brady romanced by the way just said to me that she's burning her free met jones t shirt. Oh no i feel like. That's a little hard. Yeah a little bit. That was one of my favorite moments of my life when we were number one trend on twitter and i got to see people right things like free matt jones. We don't even know what he did. Which i thought was. We thought that was funny. So that hurts. Brain does but at the same time he called the show right. And what. Am i supposed to do what you're supposed to tell him that he wasn't in the nineties. You're supposed to do but you did a good argument. Which was which was that. He thinks it's an implicit flip. The situation in the chicks were in eighty nine ninety in the other way round. I would support the chicks for me. it's just about. I'm looking at it unbiased. I'm looking at the rules. And ninety song by town leads. George rogers clark. Thirty seven twenty four. So it's looking like another favourite is going to cover here in the These lines or whoever it is. He's not john bit. No it's the old man lines. They're struggling this year because the old man lines gone digital. And you think i'm kidding. The man who sent them were not able to come this year due to covid so they have an email list. I'm not on the email list. it's apparently exclusive. They only have like one hundred people that get it but one of those people is for it to me. And that's how i'm getting it. Easy money for the the favourite backers. Yeah your favorite your eight one so far. The only the only loss was george rogers clark. There's still time left here. Yesterday there's next harvey harvey. How're you harvey. Hey man. I wanna tell you something Listen whoever tax that. I'll be eighty four this year. I'll tell you something i am. A real person and another thing is down the a and had played on the other day. Hell listen and i was sitting there. And i had what you call a parking lot. Picnic eight nine the parking lot so eating chicken so some chicken skin out which i don't eat and it's crow was sitting up in a tree. Our hawk hawk hawk. I it turned around and look pretty soon. I caught caught caught it and it came down strut it around and said kakaako caulk and that's five notes which implied to me that it said europe friendly. You're welcome to my ecosystem. He got some food. he laughed. He came back and there were five more that came in. We caught talk for five minutes. What a wonderful day harvey when we're talking about the the other day you said the bird win you know whatever and it and now you're saying the birds started using words like ecosystem which is not necessarily birds vocabulary lesson that the words i said where called three times pause two times that means welcome in other words. You're accepted it. Don't mean as head. I'm party your ecosystem septa. Sorry that'd be crazy. It'd be crazy if it said that well listen harvey first of all. I know you're real you. Sit me the picture of you shake guilty. Alexandria had forgotten that you remember when you gave that necklace. Hey probably never. I don't know that chase kind of a. He's kind of an earth guy. I could see him honor fashioned forward of all the people you were going to give it to have played it kentucky next to willie lilies as to who might wear that well. Let's just say i made that. I've blessed that you know and balanced spiritual way that it might give him positive energy to play a better game. That's what's wrong with kentucky. The last season they lost their positive energy. They're thinking on money and this and that they need to be thinking as a team and play together. Get that positive. Energy backs the same way with the fans. I agree with you harvey. You're always a blessing to the show. Thank you very much for your time and hope you have a good weekend. I always have a good weekend when i wake up. He's full of great quotes and wisdom. While i tell you man he he the thing about him is. You don't know what's coming and i love that about him. I mean that is you have no idea what is coming at any given moment when he starts now. I don't know how you believe he's faked because no one's creative enough to make the character and thinks he's saying it has to be real. It's so out there. We love it you just have to. Do you have my what has texted you think so. I think this is what you're looking for a minute and ten. Yes yes yes all right. We'll do that when we retire. Let me say Do you know who is using the flood. Cleanup services from surp- right. Now help my hometown of middlesboro. They have ten years ago. Went down there helped clean up the schools and businesses. Now they're doing it again. Certapro is all over the town. Now they're trying to make the flooding like it never even happened and they can do that for your business. Hope you don't have fire water damage but if you do call one. Eight hundred serve pro. Serpa comes in cleans up and restores. Their independently owned and operated in water or some issue. Threaten your home and business call sir. Pro one called. 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Whether it's the high school games high school games all day ten tonight and tomorrow we'll have the final four and we'll just have happiness baseball baseball bra. Reds are off today. they needed it. They gotta get back in kind of get back in the swing of things like that didn't happen yesterday. My georgetown jordan threes just came. That's really exciting. Very exciting my braves own once. I'm gonna wait to the playoffs fan again but it was a nice one day experience. We'll see him again at the end of the year. Yeah well. I'm gonna go sunday. I think to see the reds. If it's not cold catch some home. Run balls plenty of them. I sit behind the plate. I don't i catch pal. Foul balls all right. So yesterday of course was also opening day for the indians. cleveland indians. They lost and when the game was over they have i guess a tv post game call in show and a man just stares into a camera and takes calls now. I've done this before. I did this. Many years ago on it was called the freak show in louisville. I remember that johnny the freak renshaw. This was pre ks art. K s are with him on the air yet the freak show johnny had a highly call in show and he ended up leaving town and they still had like three months left on it. And they're like. Hey we need somebody to host. And i ended up hosting cars. Ramsey was my co host occasionally. Those maria montgomery was my co. i mean it was an interesting show but it is really weird to take radio calls and see what i mean. It's just an odd an odd dynamic so but as you hear this imagine the man is just staring into the screen ranting into the into the camera. It does make it kind of interesting. Go ahead and play. You can just simply put your around ramirez walking him. Don't give anything to hit the next guy to good pitches down the middle. He won't swing at. The ball is down around his ankles in which to shortstop into a double play. This has been going on for two years right. I guess you missed a lot of the games that raise kit in the clutch last year. No no no no. No no yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah yeah baseball. Who you are an idiot pain you are. You know what you're going to make a judgment on the season. After one game is thirty green egg new ramos get off far. Show fairweather idiot. all right. we're going to move on here all right so you for those of you that say sometimes i mean or i get frustrated saying. I've never done that. I've gotten back. Only one a fairweather idiot. I'm sorry fast forward to when he goes. No no no the other here. That i don't know the exact point here. Fifteen twenty six sls shortstop into a double play. This has been going on for two years. I guess you missed a lot of the games that raise pit in the clutch last year. No no no no no no no looks like an otherwise normal guy and he's just sitting there just rating. I have to tell you if the tv post game shows for these baseball teams was always like that. I think drew. I would tune in a lot more. I don't know anything about cleveland this year or ever. I don't follow them baseball. But i want to turn that on after your losses just to see what happens. Richard simmons or something like the people say how man you get so upset. I can listen. I am an angel compared to that. I mean that was. That was word for the books. I really really liked it. Who's up next. Steve and cynthia stevenson piano. How are you steve. I'm busy right now with the cdc. I tried to call in yesterday. I couldn't get through all these papers on my desk. And this facts came in before their why the other week fancy does not have the krona. It came across my desk on the facts. And it's under colin of that me laugh. It's a kentucky. Brady call the day you can go to. Kfc or go to continue bread dot com. Did you cancel our gear and your uk gear. I'm sorry coca protocols have been breached. Fancy out. Clint black is in and that decision is unfortunately fine. But i do appreciate the tip. Thank you very much. I'll tell you that. I don't believe his on the bracket that should be is one. I'd forgotten shannon the tractors. You remember baby likes to rock it like a boogie woogie choo choo train. Yeah you think should be on there. That should be. Maybe maybe a sixteen but that is a quintessentially ninety song because it has that part goes cruz. Who des was good. I would need to see the first four out to know really fits against the field. But i just don't have it as a tournament team on brain is more like a team okay. So i'm the only tractors fan here. Yeah i think so. I mean it's it's fine. I just don't know if it fits in the same conversation as those other songs just feel like it should've been in who's next. Let's go to bob bob. How are you bob. I saw stars dancing on the wall. Or i seen now that wasi sang in blue suede shoes on there how i will say confederate. There's a couple of groups that i thought should have been on again. Let me just you. I did not make the bracket. I didn't make it shannon. Didn't make it that needs to be remember. We had nothing to do with this okay. So that needs to be remembered. But secondly i agree that confederate railroad. The problem is i think a lot of those songs might have been in the eighties. But i love. Daddy never was the cadillac kind of come on and then shane house trashy women. Not one of the saw totally agree with you think. I don't know if trashy women's ninety song needs to be on there because you know stuff like ninety three ninety and ninety two that it's not on there and when when he says i know it. Dad ain't coup. I think that needs to be on there. He was a self-imposed paying out this year from term is that right and then i also would say shannon. No shinhan doa. Yeah what year did next to you next to me. Come out because to me. That should be like a top. Four seat might be the eighties. I don't know when was next to you next. Nine hundred ninety. That should be in there to me. I would have even put church on the cumberland road in but next everybody knows barbecue chicken and aluminum foil just enough money for my gas and oil. Everybody knows they do but it just shows how strong this field is. Yeah well. I appreciate the call. I'm with you. I would have. I think i think for whatever reason. The bracket did seem a little bit biased against groups. There aren't as many like a lot of solo artists. But there's not as many groups. Because i don't know how you leave. I don't know how they leave that she didn't know us all because to me. That song is just huge isn't it. Yeah but i mean the brackets pretty stack so you gotta remember. You gotta show me who you're taking off fancy and pulled that one but you're still going to pull a classic to make room for me. Yeah you could have put that in there. But you put a girl into. Because you put that song shenandoah mitch bar. Yeah let me just say it was a girl in texas should have been in there and i'm very upset. So there's a lot of girls in texas. What's your point a couple of things here quickly the. Ncaa got roasted in their supreme court. Sure did i mean. They got roasted listen. You know when you watch when you watch the supreme. I've talked about you know you. Have you have liberal judges. You have conservative judges right now. The courts probably six three conservative right now. If i it looked like it was gonna be nine. Oh the opinion i mean they all were roasting the ncaa. Now i don't know what it's gonna mean but as you're talking about the future of college athletics. That decision will come down in may or june and i think it could listening to that argument. I went and read some of it. I think the. Ncaa is in trouble. I mean they just. They had like the liberals roasted them the conservatives roasted them the moderates roasted them i mean they just got roasted across the board. I don't know what's going to happen if i the ncaa. I'm worried after that oral argument. Yeah i don't sit around and re supreme court case offence to people who do that. But you know when it's so bad i'm seeing like names of people mocking what's going on in court and i've seen tweets from people who were there and actually waited on the the legal stuff but it looks like it's just been a horrible start for the incident of well. We'll see but i you know there's an old adage that you can't tell for sure by the by the arguments and that's true on the margins but you usually can win everybody's against him and i was really surprised that it was it was universal. Cowboys is not really partisan. So i don't know why would be. There are very few times you watch case it gets the supreme court all the justices seem to all be on one side and it did seem that way during that and we don't feel bad at all if to him. A were a man i punched in the face. A great moment from the past sweet sixteen Bowling green after today's upset. I'm going bowling. Green to most people seem to pick. Ballard i'm going bowling. Green over highlands five. Yeah i liked. What assault bone. Thank you folks very much. We've had a fun week. Thank you shannon. Come out to the bar all weekend. I'll be here some this weekend as well hope everybody has a beautiful keeneland start today. No yogi day. Everybody enjoyed that bluegrass. Tomorrow we'll see these it's been.

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Final Four Betting Picks: Houston vs Baylor, UCLA vs Gonzaga

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Final Four Betting Picks: Houston vs Baylor, UCLA vs Gonzaga

"Along that thou board with those bet. You twenty bucks. I can get. You can't look for the end of the day. You only fifteen how they pay debts men his manny. It's the board. Podcast really the end up right back where i could still pick. Winners can still make money for all kinds of people back home and why mess up a good thing airs pain insider and todd come into the bed. The board podcast powered by fan duel. Sportsbook final four edition head on over to fan. Duel dot com. Use the promo code beck the board of forty two one regardless of who you pick to win one of their final four games restrictions apply take full advantage of that for your bank roll builder promotion. I'm your host todd fervent. Join as always by my esteemed colleague and co host. The one the only pain inside. I'm glad you could lead us to victory today. Her jehad a late night. Fantasy baseball crammed draft to the wee hours. What fiasco those things have become. I mean i know. Some of the auction drafts out there. Go eight nine hours. Which would be way too much for me to ever try and get involved with and people could give two shits about who actually have on my roster but when you go through an untimely draft even with some of your closest friends and the thing takes nearly three hours and guys are combing through trying to figure out who they want for positions twenty five through twenty seven. It does define tedious as far as sports betting in a fantasy. Realm is concerned. I'm such a team player. So we're we're maybe like twelve hours late. Compared to the sweet sixteen couldn't pull couldn't pull the three. Am podcast shift. I needed some energy but we were debating recording after the draft but it ran long because of those late round picks seems to be the case. Anytime you get to the latter stages of draft. You can see who's prepared who's not based on long. It takes to select picks the amount of buzz in the draft chat room about a pixel matter. Who cares can't we just auto draft rounds. Twenty at twenty-seven always cracks me up especially because we have a unique system with farm minor leaguers. And all of that other crap. But yes so i apologize to those folks who thought they were gonna have this in their inbox. First thing thursday morning you can blame me and my cronies for a fantasy draft. That was a little bit errant to say the least and we didn't want pain going through four or five sugar-free where there's originals having to stay up till six am no now the key is finishing this and we'll we should have this out well before opening day of the yankees because i would like to get myself potentially to like a bar. Maybe have like a beer. We'll fish and chips for yankees opening day. So that's at one. So i think we have. What about three hours until then we should be able to get this out. Be perfectly have sixty minutes to try and fill for this podcast breakdown. Two games that. I don't wanna play spoiler here but don't seem to be all that attractive at least on the surface if we're talking about overall intrigue when you look at the updated futures pain fan duel sportsbook gonzaga minus a dollar ninety to cut down the nets baylor plus to sixty houston eight to one and ucla. The proverbial long shot at twenty seven to one. I guess it makes the most sense to start with the first semifinal game our you're looking at baylor a modest five point. Favorite total on the game sits at one thirty five and a half at fan duel and when you begin to break this game down. Baylor we know has the more talented guards. They have three guys of going off at a moment's notice. Houston a little bit of smoke and mirrors and it doesn't mean to come off as a negative but the i team in college basketball history to play all double digit seeds in route to the final four. Which more or less is consistent with the cougars resume. All season long where they've played one team ranked inside the top twenty five at the time of the. That was texas tech back in november now to houston's credited to wins against memphis down the stretch and we saw memphis playing basketball in the nit. But of course it's all relative when you look at this game and you try and figure out houston has a punchers chance. What are the key matchups for you. The kelvin sampson and company. Explain so i think you're you're spot on right because we're not quite sure what houston is. Visually they look the part metrically. They look the part and we did question their strength of schedule coming into the tournament with the a. c. way down and believe we had them the a c. That is like the eighth power rated conference in and you had this perfectly like you know. They've gone through nothing but double digit digit seeds Not being tested. I think is probably an understatement. And you mentioned techs. Chris beard steam. That's that's the only team inside our top thirty that they've played on baylor's blown through three of her top twenty two just in this tournament alone. They've won them by nine or more so it becomes difficult trying to assess what houston might be able to do here offensively. Because i think what we're starting to see in this tournament and something we saw at the beginning of the year was baylor turned in impose the rule defensively. And i think when you look at houston their bit limited when they play someone in this weight class. And i think that's probably the interesting part here because you did mention memphis there briefly. I think you could probably say this. The first game all season aside from memphis where the opponent is ben as athletic or maybe even more athletic than houston because baylor definitely is and so when you have a team that relies on being more athletic. Sometimes you can get a little overwhelmed especially early if you're not the longer faster bouncier team on the court. So that'll be the first interesting thing to see how houston handles that bone. You talk about their offense. Basically they score in three ways either off steals from deep or they chuckle on threes. And they make a respectable amount of them but it basically is a volume game from deep for them. Houston's three hundred thirtieth in the country and shot distance from the basket so is a lot of threes. And when you look at them basically they're going either. Crashed the glass on those misses And rebound those long mrs. And that's that's another way. So it's it's off steals. It's deep or it's put back off those deep misses and i don't think anything's really gonna change for houston. If they're not hot from deep it becomes really as second chance points type of game but was really interesting to me. And i think we've mentioned this in in all around. You know we said coming in with the initial tournament preview that we were buying baylor because we thought there deficiencies down. The stretch could be fixed. It was simple energy effort. And i think that will be the interesting thing here as well. Because we know baylor's been refocused. They're not that team. You know the final seven games pretournament where they're underachieving getting tortured defensively. They've flipped that. Switch back on. So i think when you look at this as long as david. Mitchell stays out of foul trouble. I don't see baylor turning it over all that much so that kind of negates one of houston's areas of scoring which is you know off off steals when they did have foul trouble though with david mitchell against arkansas. The razorbacks kind of made that little run before half when he was on the bench three fouls so they probably will turn you over. David mitchell gets in foul trouble here. The other thing is baylor isn't great. Defending the three ball outside the top one hundred and three point defense and then obviously what we kind of alluded to is defending They're glass getting those. Those defensive rebounds the season long metric. Don't look great two hundred seventy three in the country and defensive rebounding however that again is something that comes down to energy effort and focus and if you look at baylor they've rebound the shit out of it offensively so like guys are fine crashing glass off of one. That's like oh man. I i can score here so it tells me like if baylor's focused they do have the actual ability to do the dirty work defensively and if you look in the tournament baylor's only given up thirty four offensive rebounds and four games so it's it's night and day difference what i'm seeing visually from baylor in terms of energy and effort and actually caring in this tournament and so if if they're not turning it over and they are doing a respectable job on the defensive class. You start to wonder where houston's going to get their points from unless they're just scorching from three you know it's interesting when you look at baylor because they play some zone and i'm not sure that's going to be a recipe for them here as far as houston's ability to crash the offensive glass the other thing with bay we know about the guards in you mentioned pain. They don't have a ton of size. Do you think that could be a problem. For some of the length and athleticism that houston is going to throw at him. Or do we think to guys like teague mitchell and butler just so good and dynamic with the basketball they can negate some of that size differential. I think when you're looking at the size match you're referencing more so the guards and houston does have that length on the perimeter. They go six three six four six five really long and maybe that will give baylor some trouble. Maybe there will be an adjustment period. There i do think when you look. Schematically calvin samson is probably the better xs and os coach here. I don't think there's a question about that. And he's going to have four or five days so you might see early on in this game. This kind of feel out factor for baylor was day kind of adjust to that length. And maybe that might be the way to attack this. If it's tight early and you get a better in game number on baylor that might be the way but ultimately. I don't think this is going to be a matchup for baylor where they're like. Oh my god overwhelmed here. I don't see that being the case. Yeah it's definitely a different dynamic than what houston encounters in a night in night out basis in the a religious. Go out there and teams not. We just can't match up. We have to get out of our comfort zone. Baylor will have seen a lot of the wrinkles. They'll seen the caliber of player that they're going to encounter here. And you mentioned a couple of ways that houston scores baylor on pace to have one of the best turnover differential in the ncaa tournament since kentucky. Back in one thousand nine hundred ninety six there plus forty in that department. So they're not going to give you those routes. They're not gonna give you those easy buckets. And i can't imagine houston is going to be able to break into that. Dna we're baylor has been so successful it will be interesting to see. What kelvin sampson. Does you kind of alluded to early on in this game. And how you're going to have to go through various phases. I think if you're houston. You just wanna stay in striking distance. In my opinion. It's not the kind of game where you can build an early lead. Run away and hide. Although we have seen baylor struggled a bit specifically in that villanova gamer. They had race a halftime deficit. So should be interesting to see how that particular aspect of this contest on foltz. Yeah absolutely and and here's what's kind of intriguing to me is when you look at baylor a little bit offensively and really both these offense. They're pretty similar rights. It's about spacing you want. Allow your athletes to beat their man off the balance in there either getting to the rim arthur kicking it out for an open three once. That happens the differences and ultimately where this game probably turns unless again houston scorching hot. From outside i just think baylor's offense is more efficient and they've done it against better competition and it just feels like there's a little bit more skill offensively for for baylor. There's also a little more variety right like like baylor doesn't have a guy on this team with an offensive rating below one twelve in between like mitchell teague and flagler all those guys have offense ratings above one twenty and then you have jerry butler so there's more options for baylor offensively. You can't just kion one guy but this is this is good on good. I mentioned samson. You mentioned him as well with multiple days repair. You know i would guess like scott in running like some sophisticated princeton offense here like samson's probably gonna have something at least early on here. That might give baylor some trouble. Since great defensively. We talked about their length up. Top the only give up eighty seven points per one hundred possessions. Their guards are tall their long. They're athletic. They caused some trouble there. Top five and mid range defense. They collapsed drivers pretty well. They don't allow a ton of shots at the rim. And when they do they block over sixteen percent of those rim shots so they seem to be defensively and just about all aries. Here's would somewhat interesting to me. And it's why it's one of the tougher games to gauge. And you know you have a finance background right. You've your family's been dealing in markets all the time sometimes it when you look at markets you look for signals. And when i see baylor minus five right now is the market consensus and kind of pointing towards trending upwards even is lines as baylor like oddsmakers are saying baylor's the right side here in my mind and i'm saying that because i know i think a lot of people that you'll hear talk about this game over the next seventy two hours and now that analytics are thing and i know ken palms name has been mentioned for years. But more so from the casual fans or casual sports information shows. They're going to reference this number of baylor minus one. That's what can palm believes. the number should be. Let me say this. In a standalone final. Four game for books are going to have more money down on these games than ninety nine point nine percent of other games. They've booked this year. They're not dealing line. This four points off right. There's been some type of manual adjustment from oddsmakers where they're kind of throwing out the final seven games from baylor pre-tournament way obviously guys are including those in the numbers. So i think that's what we're kind of seeing here is. There's this like mental hurdle here of sang like you're looking at the full season five's probably not the right number but if you're saying hey like these guys route twenty one days because of the covid break there wasn't that energy and effort on the comeback. Let's just toss those out. This is probably the right number in that area now. I haven't done anything with this game. It's possible you might see some of the value hunters number grab houston at tip. But i do know at this stage. The money i respect touch baylor minus foreign four and a half for just a regular. There's also some under sixty three and a half in the first half that that that i respect to me. This game dot is is has a lot of variants for two reasons. The first is they're both ice. Oh teams offensively. However the refs going officiate. Are they allow things to get a little. You know hansie defensively and be able to kind of hip. Check some guys as they drive or are they gonna call. This tight is earned foul trouble. The other thing is both these teams. Shoot the long ball a lot. Which is a recipe for very so. If you said to me hey houston kind of hit one at the buzzer to win outright. Or he said baylor controlled the thing the entire way one by nine or more. I wouldn't think twice about either of those results. Yeah it sounds kind of ridiculous to save but when you present the case that way it almost feels like hey if you like houston you're gonna have an opportunity to take a price right around plus a dollar ninety ninety five or later points at baylor. Houston can't keep up and know in no way shape or form. Do i want my words misconstrued. That i'm saying you should bet the dog on the money line and lay the point favorite creating a polish middle for yourself so i don't want that to be taken out of context by any stretch. But that scenario playing out in the nike and pain. I would be stunned and i don't say that often in this world if the underdog was able to win this game outright ginza. Fourteen point favorite here biggest number. We've seen in the final four since the mid eighty s against the ucla team. That i'm not going to take anything away from. Hey they won five games in a row. They weren't exactly winning a beauty pageant against michigan to get their here nonetheless. And you're looking at a total on this one at one forty five and a half at fangio sportsbook. It'll be the first ever final four meeting between two teams hailing from the pacific time zone. We haven't seen a champion come from west of the mississippi since kansas in two thousand eight which obviously we'll be the case this year since last. I checked bull. Texas schools do constitute being west of the mississippi. And when you look at mitt cronin. Hey full marks to him. I know that higher was widely questioned throughout college basketball circles. This is a guy that had six previous wins in the tournament before this improbable run with his boys from westwood. When you look at ucla if they're going to keep this game competitive and stay within the number pain. A what kind of things do they have to do to slow. Down often of juggernaut. That's been the gonzaga bulldogs not just in this tournament. But all season long. So let me say one thing about the mccrone and higher and i think it kind of is somewhat parallel when we were talking about arkansas and the ability to distinguish xs and os from recruiting in terms of coaching prowess which is think. The reason. People had questions about mick. Cronin was his style translating to the west coast and being able to recruit those kinds of players out there or being able to recruit guys from the east coast to come play at ucla. I think that those were the questions in terms of him. Being a great coach. There weren't really any questions for me. And i think that's what it is is pretty interesting here. Now whether it's this game or the one we just finished. I think this is really an unattractive final four from betting perspective. I'm just being candid here. Like i'm looking at this is like a i just. I just don't see much now when you look at gonzaga this is obvious right. They have the potential to be one of the greatest college basketball teams of all time. Top five in both offensive and defensive efficiency. There has been early money that is respected. That got out just number grab laid to thirteen with zags like nobody's getting like a great sensation about lying two touchdowns you know with zags going to be the public side right and like the sharper shop. Right now is out to fourteen and a half. I'm still not making case for ucla and like give macron and all the credit in the world. He's he's fantastic. Let's see what he does with four or five days of prep to kind of muddy this game up and when you look at game like alabama and the sweet sixteen like. Ucla wins that by playing game in the high eighties. And then on the quick turnaround. Ucla wins this. Like rock fight against michigan. It's a first to fifty type game. Not many teams have the ability to play both those styles but mick. Cronin's good enough to get his to kind of be a a million and navigate the waters to vastly different games. Now i think what we're seeing here is. Pro betters aren't as high as ucla. Some of the analytic sites. That's the first thing on. Why you're seeing gonzaga. Move out a little bit here. The others johnny. Juicing horse he reaggravated his ankle injury. I don't think he's gonna miss this game but if he's not one hundred percent that's significant and the only reason. Ucla was able to keep pace. Early against. michigan is because juicing went nuts fourteen of the i sixteen eighteen of the first twenty seven in the first half for ucla and the way everyone around choosing was playing early in the game. Like if michigan got up ten early in a game. That's i two fifty going to be a tough road back there but jusin kept them alive. This is just gonna be wild to me like i. I'm not sure where. Ucla goes for offense. And we talked about this pretournament. I think we talked about this in the sweet sixteen podcasts at ucla. Shot selection is a little bizarre their fifth in the country in mid range shots per one hundred possessions gonzaga's sixteenth in the country defending mid range shots. So if the bruins are hitting those it's gonna be a long night and we know zog loves to get out and score in transition off these mrs over twenty five percent of the zagged shot attempts says a team are within within ten seconds of defensive rebound so if those mid range shots are not falling this might get a touch ugly and we're looking at ucla because they shoot those mid range shots. The really streaky on offense especially in this tournament so i don't know if they're going to be able to kind of continue hitting those those mid range shots. That are tough twos that. If you're a defensive like take all those you want and then you have this matchups of they're not hitting the long twos and you have campbell at point guard. Who's five eleven on his best day. Is he gonna be able to get ucla comfortably. In their offense of sets with basically six four lottery pick and jalen suggs base a in his grill the entire whip the court. I don't i don't know how ucla scores here And they've had a moshe like a really efficient offense this season when you look metrically the one area also where i think we had some question marks with gonzaga was on the interior defensively but ucla doesn't have anyone like either of the mobile brothers. And i know those guys went pretty nuts in eleven for nineteen thirty six points inside. Ucla usc so lost by by nineteen. So i don't know i just it's tough right. I think we all think of gonzaga as this really elite offense and they are and you kind of just think of them. Defensively as yeah. It's their defensive secondary and you know that might be the question about gonzaga right are they. Tough are they this great defensive team you played usc and creighton to top twenty five offenses in terms of efficiency. The zags held them to under one point per possession by long mile so defensively zag seemed to have gotten better now that they're in you know win or go home mode. I'm not really sure what. Ucla can do on the offensive end here. I think it's interesting when you look at it. Because they are so good offensively and you have three players and quercus birger tammy and jalen suggs. Who are truly elite at what they do to create a football parallel. It almost reminds me of playing against the kansas city chiefs. That you don't have to be great defensively but you put so much pressure on your opponent to score. Every time they have the basketball that it leads taking quick shots and gonzaga plays defense for stretches if they can grind you out for four minute window and keep you from getting easy looks. We saw it against create and they found separation. We saw it against usc. Suddenly you don't have to be great on the defensive end for thirty plus you have to be great for sixty eight minutes and your opponents in such a hole that you now can play with one foot on the accelerator pedal the metal and i think when you look at this game pain you see two teams diametrically opposed in pace. We're gonzaga's six in the country. Ucla three thirty eight and gonzaga. Well they have a chance to break a mold. We've seen a lot of the most recent national champions. Play a little bit more methodical. That's not his game at all. And it's what you've always talked about especially in college football when you have the better athletes. You have the better talent play. Faster put pressure on your opponent. Don't shorten the games and limit possessions. You're exactly right and we've kind of always adhered to the fact that it's easier slow game speed one up but through the tournament gonzaga's been so good they've been able to speed up their opponents even in the usc game. If you actually watched that in the second half they were just trying to go through the motions. They were taking time on the shot clock and derailed their efficiency just a little bit but gonzaga does have an ability to play both ways. I mean we saw timmy in the post against moberly and he was fantastic. That's what's really interesting because when you look at. Ucla on the entire season they've lived and died by the offense although it's been kind of streaking the tournament and then defensively in the tournament. They've been fantastic. That's been their calling card this tournament because they play just with a ton of energy and effort in they've been really physical. And that's what i think maccagnan's gonna come out here. Say we're gonna try to beat these guys up. Let's see if we can do that. Let's see if a derails them a little bit. But i don't think there is a prayer. Ucla can defend gonzaga here. And when you're starting to look at some of the last two games give ucla all the credit in the world but we talked about this offer. Michigan probably played their worst game of the season. Both michigan and alabama were ice cold. I mean talk about shooting variants in shooting luck for ucla alabama michigan combined for twenty five percent from three point land thirty nine attempts. Those teams alabama michigan combined for forty seven percent from the free. Throw line on thirty six attempts against ucla. Right i mean you. Don't defend the free throw line in terms of once they get there so hitting forty seven percent from the free throw line and thirty six tenths. That's some shooting variants that. Ucla has kind of used to be in this situation. That's going to change in this game. Gonzaga's going to score. They're going to score in the half court. They're going to score in transition. They're going to capitalize on free. Throws they're gonna hit open three point shots and i. I don't really see anywhere that. Ucla has an advantage defensively. Even good teams. Struggled to defend gonzaga. And i would think. Ucla has been goodness tournament but again not. They're calling cart outside the top fifty and defensive defensive efficiency before this tournament started. Yeah i mean. Ucla you saw them even struggle with the size and length of michigan players. I mean cody riley on the court for less than twenty minutes used every bit of his five personal falls. You've had other players for ucla that aren't used to getting more than ten to twelve minutes. A game forced into action and hundred dickinson wasn't able to take advantage. I don't think they're going to have that luxury against your timmy and company and when you look at jagged pain just to kind of paint it and even better picture from historical standpoint ninety six point differential plus ninety six is the best through four games since yukon back in two thousand nine and when you look at gonzaga who's won each game by fifteen plus points the first team to win their first four. Ncaa tournament games by that margin since eventual national champion. Uconn did it back in two thousand four historically good offense. Ucla is going to have to be at their absolute best offensively and i kind of joked on twitter in the wake of the michigan game. Ucla is gonna have to score more than fifty if they're going to pull off this upset. When you look at zagreb's totals in the mid one forties. I mean they've seventy eight or more in all of those games and all we have to do is look at the game against virginia with a total of one forty. Three and a half gonzaga almost got to the century. Mark with ninety eight points on. Tony bennett steam. So mick cronin maybe want to dust off some of those jerseys in the rafters and see if you can get kareem out there. Russell westbrook and kevin love to give you a little bit more opportunity against this seems to be an absolute runaway freight train. I you can follow overhead. Pay large sums of money if we could get bill walton on this. Call be chairman bill on brackets. He's got to look like a genius if you had every pac twelve team into the final four the west coast bias at gonzaga. I mean a second screen. Viewing the bill walton for. This game has to be must see tv. There's there's no doubt about that would be fun to get them implemented here. Somehow you would think maybe the powers that be. I don't know how that would work. But you gotta pay bill to maybe Call this game on stream somewhere. I can't get charles interview. Bill walton some capacity or. 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Is there anything that even constitutes value offer some of our listeners. This weekend that are gonna be fully engaged trying drinking eighty of the remaining one hundred and twenty minutes. We'll have left college basketball season. it's difficult to to navigate. I'll be honest. i haven't bet anything personally. I'm not really close either. But kind of what. I alluded to in some of the breakdowns. I have seen from respected. You know once one respected group got outlaid baylor minus four and four and a half and five is a somewhat relevant number in basketball also. It's worth noting that that's you know. Well respected position now. The total is seen two different things. We've seen some full game over but really that first half under at sixty three and a half was was really sharp. And i think there'll be a feeling out process like i kind of mentioned in the breakdown. I think kelvin sampson might have something early on for baylor's offense but eventually you'll get to a point. I think we've seen this with houston in this tournament. Where all the sudden we understand the half court game might not be working in both these teams look to get out and run when they can in. Sometimes that will soil total when you have this many athletes in transition. It's in the one thirties mid to low. So i think that's partly why we've seen some over money full game The late game again. A little money on gonzaga early. But you know who's running lay fourteen fourteen and a half right now. I don't think anyone's probably doing that. So i i don't have anything at this point So i don't really want to give anything out that i haven't met myself. That's kind of what we what we live by. But i don't know when we some of our listeners right. They're going to bet these games regardless. I think that's always important. Why it's you know to listen to some of these breakdowns. I know we got a little heap of someone. Said something to the effect of. Why do you tweet out. 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03/06: R.I.P. to Kansas streak; with Zion Williamson out yet again, might RJ Barrett overtake him for National Player of the Year?

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03/06: R.I.P. to Kansas streak; with Zion Williamson out yet again, might RJ Barrett overtake him for National Player of the Year?

"Very scary pairs of twins day, March six two thousand nineteen welcome back to the eye on college basketball podcast, where we sometimes discuss Campbell fighting and leaky black Matt norlander is here with being the big news since we last recorded is that Kansas streak. A big twelve regular season titles is over Oklahoma beat the jayhawks eighty one sixty eight Tuesday night, just beat their brains and really so K you now has six league losses as you probably know, Texas Tech and Kansas state can't possibly finish with more than five. So the streak is over the streak is over norlander dive right in your thoughts on the end of one of the more remarkable streaks in college sports history. I didn't think it end like this. Hey, you know, what I'm cool sit ending because we're not gonna see this happen at the major conference level against the rest of our lifetimes. You can make an argument we won't see it period men's visual and basketball because is the closest thing right now it's at seven so it's halfway there including the season. There's no telling of consensus even in the WCC seven years from now. So that alone in addition to how hard it is to do Kansas. It set a record and doing this period. I don't anticipate that any conference team will do it at all as long as you. And I are walking the Tara firma here. The BULLDOGS have shot, but things still have to break just the right way for for Kansas to lose. How it did? I mean, it's been it's been largely abysmal away from its home state this season, Oklahoma locks up a bit in my estimation with that wind so good on the Sooners for being able to do that. But, but I think this is more you can have the conversation two ways GP, you can say. How great it was. And it was and we can highlight how ridiculous it's been over the years, but you can also. And I think this is what should be pointed out pointed out on CBS sports H Q on the on the Tuesday night show. If for Kansas to even be in the position where it's into being third with all of its roster issues, all frankly, all of the stuff that it's dealt with is also fairly remarkable because I think a lot of coaches with the same kind of personnel the same situation, it would be understandable. If not reasonable to say, you know, what you finish six seventh even eighth, but overall, I know Kansas blue blood, I know that they have talented recruit on the roster and all that stuff, but still there's just no guaranteeing that you're even an position to be on the four line or a five line given all that they've encountered so kudos to sell for doing that. And it was just a matter of time. And so now going forward in the seasons ahead, I will give more credence to other teams potentially finishing on top of the big twelve standings. But if you told me that starting next year Kansas rolled off even a streak of just five or six. Eight seasons. I'd still believe it because of the prestige the program the league that it's in as long as Bill self as there. I think they've got a shot. Yeah. I made some of those points. I guess similarly last night in studio CBS sports network one of the points. I made is that a rough night for our overreaction or reality bit because it's bit. We do with one of our producers Amy Salomonsson where she comes up with three statements. And it's basically like, yeah. That's that's true or come on get outta here. Right. It's overreaction which reality. And it feels like every other week. It's like this is the air Kansas big twelve streak in going in and be like that's an overreaction. They lost a game. But it's still big deal. They're still only one game with eight to play that we we've been doing that for years like every Tuesday night. And so now that will have to be removed from the list of possible questions or statements for overreaction reality. Because the the streak ended you're exactly right about. The things that Kansas has had to deal with the season. And the idea that they still technically even if it was slim technically had a chance to extend the streak to fifteen years in the final week of the regular season given that they lost two starters. Three rotation players is is pretty remarkable. And I think impressive coaching job from bell south. Now. The counter argument to all this would be don't gimme that feel sorry for Kansas stuff yet. If you want to say that you don't as a book injury is unfortunate. I'll listen to that. But they didn't have Silvio Susa because a person the incident Belay, and Kansas has labeled as a quote booster paid is guardian to get him to enroll at Kansas. All right. So get outta my face on. Sorry. They didn't get Silvio zoos. Well, somebody cheated for them to even have him into first place. And then. Yeah. Forget get out of my face with this. Well, the Jerrell Vic, you know, had issues Jerrell Vic is always had issues. He's a knucklehead, so if you know why Bill self didn't even really want him back before the season started. So maybe you should have expected to have issues with Jerrell vac Jerrell Vic, maybe should never thought. You were going to have Sylvia desouza back in. So whatever issues Kansas had to deal with this season outside of Dokes injury. Those are those are those are issues that that canes upon itself, and perhaps that's true. But still there was a point in the season. Where even if I didn't think it was true Bill self did think he was going to have Silvio available to him. Keynes's was ranked number one country when they had you don't book as a starting center and legit Vick was their best player or at least one of their best players for extended period of time in the season. So regardless of how it happened. They did end up trying to close this thing with a roster that look nothing like the roster. They thought they were gonna have and they're still a top twenty team headed to insulate tournament in spite of all of this stuff. It's to be able to hold it together. I do think is is somewhat impressive. Not completely impressed. Yeah. Another street that's ending which is nearly as impressive. Although they kind of go hand in hand is that Kansas has been a number one number two ten straight incidentally tournaments. That's absurd. Kansas also has the longest active and turnament appearance streak win the jayhawks make this season. It will be thirty in a row that outpaces Duke at Duke is at on. I got the stats right here. Because it's in Wednesday's court report. So yeah, Kansas thirty Duke will be at twenty four Michigan state at twenty two Gonzaga at twenty one. And then the next two closest are North Carolina and Cincinnati, but Kansas in the big picture. It has been you can easily argue just by pure conference documents. And then just you know. The reliability regardless of coach of getting to the tournament every single season here for three decades has been awesome. But the one to line for ten years and they've been a three or better for thirteen straight years. I think for Kansas to get on the three probably needs to win the big twelve tournament. I just think it's taken on too much at this point to to expect anything more. So it'll be it'll be a bit different to look at the bracket this season. And where even if you've picked Kansas to get bounced early. I think writing them into the Sweet Sixteen has been a near automatic for the majority for most of the past ten to twelve years that will not be the case. So a different a little different bit of this a flavor for this year's bracket. In regard to the hawks this bring of NCAA tournament appearances despite coaching changes is incredible. But this is also incredible. We've talked about this before but not recently Keynes's had three different coaches since nineteen eighty three all of them Naismith memorial hall of famers, like that's crazy. It goes from Larry Brown to ROY Williams. To Bill self. I mean, like the idea that you can have three straight coaches for more than three decades nearly four decades, and they're all nothing, but native Morial hall of famers like where does that happen? I mean, even like even like North Carolina, we'll make a questionable higher every once in a while Kentucky, obviously did but Billy Gillespie and yet Keynes's has bay almost my entire life had nothing, but Naismith memorial hall of fame basketball, coz. Yeah. That's all. I know Kansas says, and as many people listening to this podcast just in general like they're just really really good every single year. Like even do the down year miss the tournament in the mid nineties even Duke had years, we're kind of slipped and faded from the pack when you know, the six I think it was when it got bounced by VCU, I believe in the tournament there. But it just I know Kansas let down to the tournament actually Kansas fans there. Their their first world gripe is for as good of a program as we are. We don't have enough national championships validate like we should we should have more, which is a common lament. You see amongst college football fans that root for say a Notre Dame or a Michigan basically at this point any program, that's not Alabama or Clemson or high state. If you're amongst top ten Texas status, maybe even USC we should have more national championships across the past three decades. And we really have the Kansas gripe, which is on a certain level is understandable. But it just goes back to what we've often referred to. What is a boiler plate topic, and she'd cliche talking point, but it is hard to win the national championship. And. Kansas fans, wouldn't trade. I think they're sanding in the sport with anyone else because you know, you're getting there every single year and you're winning your league almost every single season and lasting on. This is. By prediction is that fittingly. Or maybe ironically, Kansas is going to win the big twelve tournament para. So they're not gonna win the regular season for the first time since oh four, and then they're going to follow that up by being awesome in the big twelve tournament. Just watch him that watch them somehow land on the three liners they looked better than they have all season once they get to the neutral floor. Overreaction Keynes's not gonna win. That's right. Fair enough fair enough. This is going to turn into the next Wofford audio. Oh, it's it's it's definitely got the propensity to do. So we'll wait and see I will say that it is a first world problem. But if I told you you're gonna make twenty nine consecutive is that what it is now twenty nine and it's going to be thirty in a madhouse in two weeks. Yeah. Okay. So if I told you you're gonna make thirty you're gonna be a blue bug program, you're gonna make thirty consecutive insead tournaments in those. You're going to have nothing, but hall of fame coaches from more than three decades, and you're just going to have won national championship in the past thirty years that is kind of like really just one. Yeah. It's crazy to be consistently. Awesome. As they are not. I don't know. If it's crazy not it does. But I totally get why we operate at the highest level of sport for basically, stop three straight decades. And we have one national championship since nineteen Eighty-eight that does seem a little I don't wanna say underachievement. But I would assume you'd have more than that you. Just stumble into another one somewhere, you know, Connecticut. Does it all the time? I know they've got they've got four in not a little more than half the time, which is just wild to think about right. I do want to spend just a couple minutes on Kansas state and Texas Tech because they are either going to share the big twelve title or one of them is going to win it outright. And if you're looking for which one is more likely to win it outright at this point. It doesn't speak to the quality of the team. I'm not trying to tell you one's better than the other. But it's just comes down to how they've got to close the season. Kansas state is hosting folk la- Homa and Oklahoma. Obviously look great against Kansas. But I believe I looked up the other day that we make sure it's still true Oklahoma's thirty fifth that can palm and Kansas state has not lost a home game to a sub thirty Kim pom team this season. Now, there's not much difference between number twenty six Texas and number thirty five Oklahoma. I got you. But if you draw a line at where Kansas state is lost in the ACTA Ghana doom this season, they haven't lost thirty Kim pom team. So unless they do something that they haven't done all season, which is lose to a sub thirty team. They are going to finish fourteen and four in the big twelve meantime. Texas Tech has to go to Iowa State and they are projected by Kim palm to win that game sixty nine sixty eight. But it's obviously a little more of a coin flip situation than the Kansas state, Oklahoma deal. So came to say it's more likely to win its last game than Texas is even if both are likely to win. So perhaps the. The most likely outcome is going to be Coton's. But if you're trying to see who's more likely than the other two to win it outright is probably Kansas state instead of Texas Tech, Texas Tech. According to all the computers is the better basketball team either way, and I just wanted to point this out because I think it's fair because I do believe that while talking about the big twelve race people myself included have focused so much on what Kansas loss as a way to explain what's happening in the big twelve. And obviously cases state hasn't been injury-free either. They've lost dean wait for a bit there without another rotation player right now and Texas Tech. I can't stress this enough. They lost five of their top six scores. From last season's t. Like, they enrolled dukes recruiting class. They lost five of their top six scores. The only one back with Jerry Coulter they were picked seven in the preseason big twelve pool. And now they've got a chance to win an outright big twelve title. And they got if not that at least share it. I mean, it's in their hands. They as long as they win they're gonna at least share it. They got the top rated deficient defensive efficiency number in the country. You can't overstate what crispier does doing in Lubbock. Dan, Walkin, my friend who commerce for USA today tweeted, I think earlier this week or maybe it was within the past few weeks. He tweeted that crispier has already established himself as one of the top five coaches in college basketball, and I don't know whether that's true or not because you get to five pretty quickly when you start listing guys. But I can't argue with that what he's done in his division head coaching career. So far is really unbelievable. He had the one year a Little Rock, and you go look at every year before him in every year after him at Little Rock. They were awful than he was good. Then he left and they got awful again. Then he takes over a pretty good situation at Texas Tech makes it better and then last year marches to the elite eight plays Villanova's tough as anybody else in the tournament. And right now, he's got a team the eighth Kim palm twenty five and five and on the verge of raising a banner down there in Lubbock, Texas. He's Texas Tech story. I don't get enough attention either. Maybe not quite enough. But I think I think they've gotten some some good love and rightfully so. And I do think Texas Tech is the best team in the big twelve and it's been ranked number one in defensive efficiency more games than not the season. It did have a little bit of a dip. But it's recover nicely. What's going to be few quickies here? What's interesting is that the big twelve rates top two league. And it will not have a shot at a one-seat. Even if Texas Tech or Kansas state one out whichever those two one out. Neither of them are going to land on the one line which is weird because we don't do that in most seasons. Obviously. Of course. Yes, Kansas is the team. And it lands us the one coming out of that league. I do think Texas Tech is good enough to win the national championship. I actually think I if you're listening to this podcast, you're just swooping in March. Welcome hope you'll stick around all season long. Try and keep you informed. Give you some practice. And all that good stuff. I think Texas Tech is probably if you do your bracket pool. Right. I think Texas Tech is the best value pick because they are good enough to win the national championship. And almost no one will have the guts to put him that far. So they've got the ability to do so covers a top ten pick. They've got some good shooting with Moretti and Matt Mooney. He's been fantastic. Very good things to say about the red raiders. I don't think that that's a team susceptible to a first weekend upset it's not impossible. I just don't find them to be susceptible to that. As for Chris beard status, a top five coach, no way. No how he is. Very good. He is immediately know, here's why parish. He's he is right away. He has shown himself to be a very good coach here. He is thriving. Division. One. For me. I need more long term sustained excellence to vulture you to top five status in the game. I'm not gonna say that crispier better coach than Tony Bennett. I'm not gonna say he's better than Mike success go I'm not going to say that he's better than ROY Williams. I'm not gonna say he's better than John Calipari. I won't say that he's better than John beeline. I'm already at five and they're still plenty of room to go. How about this? Who do you think is a better coach? And you know, where I'm going with this. Do you think Rick bird or crispier does a better college basketball coach, I know, I know how your eye out? Yeah. Here's here's how about this with Rick bird. We've talked about Kansas streak, and I got a little something on Belmont and bird. Yes. And Wednesdays court report. This is Rick birds conference win total since two thousand three twelve fifteen twelve fifteen fourteen twelve fourteen fourteen nineteen sixteen fourteen fourteen eleven. Twelve fifteen fifteen sixteen. That's absurd. I understand Atlantic sun Ohio valley, but guess what? There's no other coach any at any level that level that's winning that many league games year over year over year over year. He's gone to the seven times probably there again in eighth time this season, everyone kind of acknowledges if you put Rick bird at Texas Tech or you put them at a cow. You put him at Georgia. He's to the tournament single digits every single season. But because he's not in the big league. He doesn't quite get the run so beards awesome. I would unequivocally put him as a top twenty coach in college basketball right now. But when you start feeling out even the top ten it gets crowded in a hurry. But answer my question, who's better college basketball coach crispier to record? Is like when Nick Sabin yelled at Maria Taylor. Like trying to make me say something bad about one of two. I'm just not going to do it. Just too scared to do it. My man too scared when I didn't even mention Bill self by the way, when I mentioned the top five like I'm sorry beards. Awesome. He could eventually be a top five. He just hasn't been there long for me. I need to see you do it over the course of at least a decade. That's all that's all. It's all reasonable. I'm not going to be disrespectful to repair Byrd. He's an amazing coach doing amazing things. I will say this obviously, it becomes difficult to to throw Chris beard in his fourth year as division one head coach into the top five when we got that many active hall of fame coaches, like still operating at the highest level of sport, not to mention guys like John beeline, Tony Bennett, so and so forth. I. And we don't actually have to rank them. I think it's interesting to to to pose it this way. If you had to take a bad power five job and hire coach to flourish at a bad power five job because like with all due respect to Texas Tech. That's not a good big twelve job it. I don't you. Tell me in terms of big twelve jobs where does Texas Tech ring last. Problem. I don't. What? I mean, if you want to put TCU below it. But. Once upon a time, it was Baylor. But anyway, it's unequivocally bottom three like on arguably, it's about him three. Okay. If you had a bottom three power five job, and you had to hire somebody who was going to just run into recruiting roadblocks 'cause they're just things you can't get done at a school like that. But you, but you knew they could win their consistently at a high level. Who would you hire Tony Bennett that will that's the other answer? It's Tony Bennett because he did it at Washington state, another terrible power five probably the worst one probably the worst power five job that there is depending on what you think of Penn State, Washington state's worse. Why? Okay. I can see that. I do think Tony business the answer. But I think crispier might be the next answer. Probably. Yeah. And that's that's credit to him. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not trying to downgrade but beards done. He's been awesome. Like fantastic. And he's gonna like feet wants to keep at this. He's making a final four. That's just that's going to happen. There's no there's no stopping that. And it's it's a testament to him. Because also, here's the other thing. Beard is not someone who. Like seeks media attention or publicity like he's like a real grinder. So the fact that he is kind of built up this reputation in this in this quickly over the years has been over the years. It's literally been four seasons as been as a testament to how good of a coachie is. And how quickly he's ascended the ladder, and how about this just in a what if scenario if? Georgia Tech is able to hire a few years ago. Literally, any of the coaches that they tried to hire initially, then they never end up hiring. Josh pastor. And then if Memphis doesn't have an opening and then make a colossal mistake by hiring tubby Smith. Crispy it right now. Probably got UNLV ranked in the top twenty five. Yeah. Probably probably. Yes. Because Georgia Tech did what it did. And then Memphis nonsensically did what it did Texas Tech. Suddenly had an opening and a coach who was from Texas just taken the UNLV job decided I'd rather be back in Texas than out here in Las Vegas because. Oh my God. I didn't realize what I was walking into here in Las Vegas. And now UNLV's program is at a let's just say, not great place. And Texas Tech is is obviously wonderful place about two probably raise a banner, you know, in Lubbock, Texas. So it is wild sort of think about how all of that unfolded with the benefit of hindsight. But we can talk about crispier and all that another time. Let's move on Duke barely got past week force on Tuesday night. We're gonna talk about that next. But first, here's this as any coach GM will tell you the foundation of any great team is great talent. So it's no surprise teams. 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They would have taken a home loss inside Cameron indoor to a Wake Forest team that was more than twenty point favorite at tip off. I don't know how much you saw that how much did you see that? I saw most of the game. Well, I saw all the second half. I saw a little bit of the first half. Got the kids down watch the second half. Kind of couldn't believe what I was watching. Now, I don't know shawny Brown got the ball off in time. Right. But even still like, whatever do what are you doing? You're a one point game at home against Wake Forest, just probably firing. Danny Manning, a matter of days what what is going on here. All right. Here's my question. Three perish. Actually, you know, what I'll do one of the time here. Give me responses instead of just throwing three or four right on you. First of all. Duke mishandle how it announced Zion stuff at the outset because it was an ounce day to day. And even if we thought we came to learn in the twenty four to forty eight hours after he was hurt that grade one niece sprains tend to keep guys out, you know, two to three weeks was it right for Duke to a said he was going to be day today at the start or should they have done something differently in retrospect? I guess technically day-to-day is like, hey, we're still talking to matter of days years, not months, but day-to-day implies could be back any day now. And obviously, that's that's not been the case. He did not play on Tuesday night and Mike chess game said after Tuesday's game that he's unlikely to play this weekend at North Carolina the injury, of course, happens on February. Twentieth. That was at this point two weeks ago to the day two weeks ago to the day. And so I guess my my my simple answer would be. I don't know whatever. But clearly day-to-day implies something that, you know. Day to day does not imply it'll be two weeks. Correct. Yeah. So I just I don't know if there's anything that happened in the in the couple of days after where they thought, you know, what like maybe this is just a little more serious, or you know, he's he's not going to recover as quickly as they thought. But when that happened, you know, the hysteria came, and then it was like, okay, stay today. Okay. It's not that bad day day. Listen, we're all day today. Right. But but day-to-day to me indicates, you're missing three games tops. And it just hasn't been the case. And now for suggestive saying postgame presser after the win on Tuesday night that he'd be surprised they played you and see he didn't rule it out. But you know, he did say I would be surprised if he wasn't available in the tournament. So we'll we'll wait and see. So my other question is this. So it was Williamson was the undisputed front runner for national player of the year. Freshman there. Given the amount of games. He's missed and I don't know if like last night helped his case or hurt his case. Like if he plays in that game dukes winning by at least twenty I firmly believe that I do. Is there a real debate? Now for national player of the year for you. Whether it's RJ Barrick grant Williams or anyone else or even like Williams, not playing against UNC. Is it still firmly your mind him? I think so I mean, he's missed four total games. If you want to count the Carolina game by call it five. Yeah. Because he was gone in the first minute if he misses this one that's going to be six and that'll be six of thirty of thirty one. Okay. So that's not insignificant. But I still think national players over the year should represent who was the most awesome player on good enough team in undeniably. He was the most awesome player on a on a on a good enough team. I do think he needs to come back and be strong the tournament. But I'll tell you this. If even if he misses this weekend comes back in the ACC tournament and Duke wins it or even like goes to the championship game and loses a close one. But he is doing nothing more than what he was doing the rest previously in the season. I think. On selection Sunday heading into the tournament. Would we'll be back at a place where we say. Oh, yeah. We maybe forgot about him for couple of weeks because he was not playing, but we just watching played three or four straight games. Whatever. It'll be and. Yep. That's the national player of the year. But he doesn't need to come back and play. And you know, I was in studio last night with while he's in Richard Jefferson, and they both. I say a couple of different things one. He's gotta change shoes every game. Like the idea that he was reportedly wearing the same shoes for like several weeks is just asinine to any NBA player that I've worked with Richard said he would change shoes every other game while he said he would change shoes about once a week. But when you're two hundred eighty pounds and moving and stopping and cutting the weight cuts does shoes cannot handle that. And so I don't think this is unique to them or breaking news, but they don't think Nike shoe problem as much as I on had a you've got to change shoes. They say every game you change shoes. Every game take them off after you play sign 'em, keep them, and for you can sell them later or you can give them to charity later, but you don't need if you play in a pair of shoes against Wake Forest, though, shoes done you plan a game parachute against Syracuse, shoes or done. So that's one thing. They said and the other thing they said, and I always think it's interesting. Talking to these guys because they are not just former college stars. But former college stars who went on to make one hundred million dollars playing basketball. And so they understand the risk of being an amateur because they went on their lives setup ever based on what they were able to do at the professional level and Richard Jefferson last night was just like. I don't if you. I don't know how you miss North Carolina game this weekend. Like, you only get one shot at this his favorite memories. I mean, he wanna world championship in the NBA with LeBron and the cat, but he's like he looks back on his he can still tell you about college games and run to the national championship game. And he's like, I just don't know like you're only exile Williamson's entering the NBA draft. And that means he he's if he don't play this weekend in Chapel Hill he will be do player who never played a game in Chapel Hill like or he can be do player who goes to Chapel Hill and after leaving the initial meeting in the first minute because of a busted chew bad it, you know, whatever. Now, he's like back on national television dunking creating memories that he'll have forever and cherish forever. And that's not worth nothing and Richard. Would. A willingly point out. I don't know what's going on with him. But if if it were NBA playoff game tonight and a player had the same deal that that Zion. Rich was like, I think they it'd be playing and the idea that he might just sit out Chapel Hill it's fine because he understands the risk, but Richard just said. You know, when you look back on your college career, you'll you might look at that as a missed opportunity if you could go, but then just don't go you might look back on that as missed opportunity. And so I'll say what always said Zion, should do whatever he and his family think a best for for him. I to nothing because he is worth hundreds of millions of dollars possibly, and and that has to be taken into consideration. But selfishly it maybe not just for me. But but perhaps for him to I hope if there's a way for him to play this week, and he does play because a it would just be incredible television. Particularly with Duke initially coach K saying they don't expect to play. I mean, just imagine Saturday afternoon leading into Saturday night. And then it comes from Duke Zaim Williamson will be in uniform tonight. I mean, who's not who's not turning to that channel time tip off. And when he's on that court to start. That game. What's that building? Look like, I mean, it can't get better for college basketball. And who knows what happens in the game. But I do think. Missing. The only chance you'll ever have the Duke player to play at North Carolina in this rivalry. You are missing something. And if you really can't go, then he can't go. But if he can I hope he does I hope he does too. I don't put it out of the total realm of possibility. It would make for an awesome Saturday. If you know we just if word leaked out that this not even he might not start. But maybe he gets on the floor changes a lot of things there. And yeah, I mean, part of the reason why you go to obviously is you wanna play and beat Carolina. We'll see if that can happen again. The other thing Duke does not want upon the fl just the nightmares that you put them on the floor. He gets he gets hurt again or whatever like that. You just got to avoid that. So they wanna they wanna be certain real quick before we wrap up on on one more topic. I will circle back to the thing. The question that I posed at the top of this whole dukes I on things. So I still would have Williamson as the player of the year if we were forced to vote right now when we finish this podcast. But I also think that he is landed in a fortunate spot this season because RJ Barrett's got a case. He does he's averaged twenty six point two points since Zion left. He led Duke and scoring before Zion got hurt. He is already set the record. That was previously set last season. By Marvin Bagley for the most twenty point games at a season. He's been a scoring machine. And he is frequently showed that without Zion. Williamson RJ Barrett would have probably been the national player of the year. If Williamson just wasn't in college. So I think that's to be taken into account now bear it and. Williamson maybe they're just the kind of tug at each other with the voters here and one might be ceiling votes from the other whatever. But if you look around at the other teams that would that would traditionally have player of the year candidates, Gonzaga. Brandon Clark is their best player. But you know, what he's going to split consideration with Ruhosha Mira. Unfortunately, there's not going to be enough there to give that award either this players because they've both been awesome. But neither of them have been awesome enough. Texas Tech has is the best in the big twelve Jerry Culver has been great. I just don't think that he's been great enough. And he's not going to have to get there. If you go by Ken Pomeroy player of the year. Algorithm. It is comfortably Ethan hap. But at twenty nine Wisconsin team call him twenty one to nine if their next win. It's just not going to do it, and I failed or not the fact that he cannot shoot from the foul line. He cannot shoot from beyond seven feet. I also think will hurt him just in terms of player of the year. I think he'll be a first American. But I don't think that he's going to have enough their grant willing. Still has a shot. Now, all we'll also note that he happens to have a teammate and Admiral Scofield who should get real votes for third team all America status. And I don't know if that's going to impact him or as well or not cash Winston Michigan state. They're near the top. He's between Michigan. Michigan state caches. Winston has the best case. But I don't know if he's been quite good enough to really even truly validate putting them in the conversation Kentucky doesn't have a guy. That's been good enough. LSU doesn't have a guy that's been good enough. So I still think that it's Williamson and Virginia's the other team by the way they again, deandre hunters. Awesome. But on nights, sometimes it's guy who went eight of ten in robbing Syracuse and Virginia by the way, putting on statistically the greatest three point performance at least twenty years considering they made seventy two percent of their shots on twenty five attempts to other times that happened and both teams that did it Kennesaw state mount Saint Mary's did against low major competition. So Virginia has guys that are good hunters. Maybe I, but he's also got. A guy named Kyle guy who's been well Tiger Balm. So that's a long way of saying. I still would pick Williamson. But if Williamson doesn't play against UNC Duke wins on the road and Barrett drops thirty three or thirty four. I think we need to readjust this because I think bears going to have a real case the simple there are only three people right now. And maybe this changes over the next few weeks, as you know, we do not announce our national player of the year at CBS sports until after the elite eight want to have as much data as possible. If you start announcing things before selection Sunday or right before the instantly tournament starts, that's how you end up not having Kimball Walker as your national player of the year when he just marches you concentrate to a national championship. So we won't do anything for a while. But if we had to turn in a ballot today, I don't see how any ballot could could not have one of three players Zion. Williamson RJ bear grant Williams. I don't think anybody else could reasonably win the award at. This moment. I also one name I forgot, and if listeners are screaming at me have policies. John ransom. An awesome. He will not win. It Murray state's no-shirt thing to make the tournament. I do think he gets real consideration for first of all America status. He can be the first player ever to ever twenty and ten. He's been awesome volts himself to top five pick status, but realistically, John Moran is not he's not going to be able to overcome that. He he will be a much student in the tournament. Like you can put him right along Zion. Anyone else? Like the guy. You wanna see if Murray states in the tournament as much as anyone not names I on his job rant. But he is not he is not going to overtake RJ or Zion. Last thing before we get out of here. And we'll we'll we'll handle this real quickly. I hope sentencing was Tuesday in lower Manhattan, Jim gadoe. Former adidas. Employees Merle code former indeed is consultant and Christian doctrines. A wanna be agent were all sentenced for their role in the college basketball scandal that was investigated by the FBI Jim ghetto got nine months moral code and Christian doctrines got six months, each those sentences were well below the sentencing guidelines, and the judge basically just said he was showing leniency because he feels like they've learned their lessons. It was it seemed to be. It mission from the judge that you know. You know, these guys were wrong to do what they did. And they broke federal law and they deserve to be punished. But nobody gains anything from Jim gadoe doing four years in prison. You know, I don't like I said on radio yesterday. I know I'd met Jim gadoe. You know, I I guess I'd met Christian Dawkins at some point. I don't know if I knew moral code. But none of these guys are somebody. I'm friendly with what happens with their life. I don't mean to be instance. But it doesn't impact my life at anyway. So I'm glad they got leniency because. You know, I like them or know them or didn't wanna see whatever. I'm just glad they got leniency because it makes no sense to me. And we've talked about this before for these guys to be doing federal prison time, they broke incidental a rules still to this day. Don't actually believe they defraud universities in a way that that put them in a position to to break federal law. So it's crazy to me that they're gonna do nine months. Six months and six months, but given the alternative of what was possible, I think they should be thankful, and I think the judge showed some common sense here. Yes. And I was not in the courtroom for this. But going off the reports from the from the scene there. It does seem like I don't, you know, the tenor of the honorary Lewis kopplin the judge who presided over the case the trial, and then obviously hands out sentencing. He had a pragmatic sense of what was actually happening here and also invoked Rick Pitino to vote this ain't period. And then had said that what was going on? Here was also means for patina plausible deniability would be interested to see the kind of conversations Pete Patino had with whomever. He spoke with after that came out. I think he's still in Greece at the moment. But obviously, no doubt that word got to him pretty quickly and Patino has been vocal about the fact that he was the FBI's poster coach for trying to turn what had happened here into a referendum on crooked. Big time. College basketball coaches, I digress. Now, the jail time is lenient. It's still prison time. Apparently, you know, minimum security and the closest prisons to where each of these men live. And they're going to appeal. So and I'm going off of what Dan what's wrote in his column at Yahoo here. The appeals could take years. So these men are still free as and until until that that legal process exhausted self they will not have to spend time. But regardless at the end of the day, you you still have men that are going to be behind bars, and we'll have done so for having played a party to. Breaking federal law, and we're not gonna we're not gonna retrial of our arguments there, but being part of activity that was clearly against the rules in college athletics. And I I don't see how that doesn't have at least some some effects. Now. My last thing here is that as we spend this forward. Christian doctrines lawyer has been vocal an adamant, but he was in the first case, I will also remind listeners that they want to expose college basketball coaches in a way where obviously like the fences pissed they're angry about what's happened here is they should be because a lot of it just I'm like you. I just I does not sit. Well, with me when I understand the realities of what's happening, college basketball, and the the guilty verdicts that came down here, and I believe it was I believe it was Mark more moral codes lawyer that said on Tuesday, if these schools are victims, tell me why I'm paraphrasing, but tell me why Louisville has not gotten out of its Adidas contract or any of these schools have gotten out of their shoe contracts. It's very salient point and one that should be ring louder. I think in the after effects of this. But. Stephanie wants to get will Wade, and Shawn Miller and other coaches on the stand to testify if for no other reason to in the second trial, which is scheduled starting late April. To bring more light onto what was actually happening on the coach side of these things, and why the clients that were found guilty in this case, perhaps aren't nearly as guilty as others that may have been involved. We wait to see if that actually happens if it does frankly, it's going to dominate this podcast in April and intimate. But I know that they wanted to get coaches involved in this first one the scope of this trial is different from the one that's scheduled to happen in April, and it did not happen. We'll wait and see on that. If you wanna make sure you don't miss those episodes in April in may, go subscribe to the college basketball podcast via apple podcast. You guys have been awesome about that over the past week or so I think largely to Norrland or opening the last episode the way he opened the last episode in. So appreciate you guys doing that. Subscriptions are way up the ratings and reviews are away up. So if you've done that thank you think you think you if you haven't some. Please go do it. It's a the best way to get the latest episodes in your hands as quickly as possible and be it's a favor we asked because it helps us as well. So five stars. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Tony Bennett and Clark Kellogg (04-09-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Tony Bennett and Clark Kellogg (04-09-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week long. March man's still here did your bracket bust. Don't worry. Go to bed decide dot com where you can watch all the madness. And even bet all the games until the final. Whistle bet. Gsi has the fastest payout in the industry. Simply play win and get paid. Try live betting bet the Asai where you could bet on the games from start to finish. That's every play and every minute down to the last whistle. So what are you waiting for go to bet the aside dot com and use promo code D are men as new members get one hundred percent bonus match. So are you ready for some extra cash this March? Remember, it's only a game until you bet it abet DEA Cy. Now, he's very good. Here's Dan Patrick. Welcome to the program. Already in progress apparently seem volley. Fritzy, mclovin, yours truly fun night. Last night went to dinner watch the national title game. And I know the people were probably not expecting a whole lot. But I think you got a whole lot more than you thought watching. And that was my point. Sometimes you watch a game. And you're just watching the game because what's at stake? There was a national title at stake. Congratulations to Virginia. We'll talk to their head coach Tony Bennett will join us coming up here in a moment. Clark Kellogg CBS. He will join us coming up as well, Abby Wambach the greatest soccer player in US history. Will join us coming up a little bit later on a couple of headlines, by the way, Dan Patrick show. Brought to you by Calloway's epic flash driver flash. Based technology featuring calories I ever driver face engineered from artificial intelligence to deliver ball speed faster than humanly possible preorder yours at Callaway golf dot com. Learn more at Callaway golf dot com slash. A Virginia Beach Texas Tech in overtime, and Kyle guys the most outstanding player he's known as the mop. That's the most outstanding player. They don't give a most valuable player. It's a most outstanding player, maybe a golden mop or something like that would be nice tonight rockets in the thunder as we close out the regular season got a stat of the day play of the day. Your phone calls are always welcome eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Twitter head with GP show, and you can watch if you'd like on our live. You can stream it live on be our live dot com and the audience number channel two thirty nine. We welcome in the head coach of the national champs. Tony bennett. How much sleep last night? Coach. A little bit. But it's all good. It's all good. When did it hit you? I don't know if it quite as yet. But no, I think that this journey has been amazing. And you know in the final horn went off, you know, after we wanted to overtime. I'd just sitting on that stool because you're up when they put you on such a stage for the floor. I just gotta bowed my head, and I just said, thank you. I was I was overcome with thankfulness and humble in a way that I felt like I, you know, so improbable, you know, how we want these games and all the things that went on. And I think it just it dawned on me, and you know, to see former players to see Joe Harris, Malcolm Brogdon there in the locker room after just to look at the guys that we had to we did a cool thing after that meant the world to me think those moments in it'll continue to thinking, but it was so good. So good. I couldn't help. But think your father having been able to broadcast one of your games when you played and having met your father, and I still tell people the practices were probably pretty boring to the players, but so clinical, and I just see so much of what you're doing. Now in what you're father probably gave you and for him to be there in insure that. What was the moment? Like when you saw dad afterwards. That was specially I got he arly comes to any games. He battles nerves so much. I think haven't been in the coaching profession, it's hard. But he came to the Sweet Sixteen league games. That was maybe the third game had been tuna probably. I dunno few years and then for him to not come to the final four game. But the championship. I was. I was glad he's there to see because I think it was like you said I heard you say it was really a high level game. And I know a lot of people it's gonna be so low scoring, but ironically, you know, it wasn't quite that way. But it was teams answering each other. And as I said, his fingerprints are over my coaching and. I watched him do it with, you know, maybe less talent and take programs beyond. So it was really good. That was that game. You mentioned was that one of your first years of broadcasting. I think it was nineteen ninety one or ninety two hours a senior. And we did the it was Butler verse. Yeah. Bay was that was that one here for stains doing that. I recall that a long time ago, and I remember that you didn't play much defense back there. Tony. Well, but I made it three pointer. If you remember to win it. I didn't know you could score. That's why I I'm always curious when a score is trying to teach defense because you guys are known for you're not as I did. We're talking to Tony Bennett. And he's head coach of Virginia. If I would've told you a year ago after the loss to you MBC. Hey, you're winning the national title next year. You would have said what? I would smile at you and said, that's you know, you're just trying to make me feel better because I feel like crap right now, honest answer. But, but I knew that it was going to be it's going to be a year that was going to be probably so important in all of our lives because of what we're going to have to face go through together. And absolutely new. We're going to need to rely on each other. And it it did some it did some unique bonding and boy built resilience in these guys in a way that I don't know what else could have from sports standpoint is like the player by that. This is a game. And this is sports. It's not life because there's so many worse things. But I do think it's a good message of like, you said hope and resiliency and guys come together. I I can't think of much better story in sports like, you know, for for us at least. What about bonding in the offseason, they have the devastating loss? And then what do you do as a coach to kinda hit the reset button in the offseason with these kids? Yeah. It was actually it was pretty cool. Everything was pretty intentional. And you know, obviously, we once we started our workouts. I decided to to go on a whitewater rafting trip. Just 'cause we said it's a blast. And that's fun. And and we we we did it. We had a good time. But the story the short of it is and went white water rafting. And I I talked to the guys about it. Why we were doing it? And I remember floating down the river. You know, looking up just saying to myself, Lord, what does this year have in store for us? So when we get to Minneapolis for the final four they gave us right when it got off the airplane. They for some reason, I get well, it's because the land of ten thousand lakes, they gave each player a paddle. And it says the road ends here. And the first thing we did as a team was go whitewater rafting kinda as a real strong team bonding thing besides, you know, the meetings, and you'll is all about the, you know, paddling together being in the boat. The ORs I thought it was really it was it was kind of neat iron. Neither way it started. And then the way kind of ended to getting to the final four at any moment in this tournament. Did you think it was gonna come crashing down? Well, yeah. And I guess to be honest. I I had made peace with whatever the outcome would be all year. And I noticed the sound strange. But if it meant I wasn't sure if I wanted to be initially another another number one seed one the fact that these guys stepped up and won a share of the ACC and battled, and then, you know, as we're getting closing like, all right. We're probably going to be a one c and with that comes unique pressures e even if you haven't lost that game. But when you've lost being the only team they history the game. And then you've got to step into that moment. Again. It's a pressure. Unlike anything team is of course, ever experienced and then to add to that when we were down fourteen. I thought that moment it was it was a bit much. But I remember telling guys at halftime, listen, you can't panic, but you gotta fight like crazy. And I think being that moment and seeing those guys like, you know, show the resiliency in the poised to win the Gardner Webb game. I think that and that's what I told them. Before the championship game. I said, you know, you you handled things and I said you were built for this. Because the pressure you face and overcome. I think that in a powerful way let us handle any of these things. But as I said sorry for the long answer I made peace with. Hey, if we're going gonna lose in the first round again, or if we weren't going to get advanced. I was okay with it. I went to being good again. But I know I could handle it. But I was just holding it with open hands. Now. I know that you're in the game in the moment. We're watching the game and your poor wife. I mean, I I don't know what you're going to do for her or take her someplace, Tony. She was every moment she was grinding grinding more than you were. That's awesome. She's actually one of the homeless most peaceful people. I know so I'll be curious to hopefully, oh, let me ever see watches got it. Hey, congrat- in joy, and please tell your father. I said a low. Thank you. Tony. I will Dan thanks for having me on. That's Tony Bennett. Continental tire coaches corner. Proud to be the exclusive tire the Dan Patrick show. No matter where you drive what you drive how you drive continental designs tires for. What you do? For more information. Visit continentaltire dot com. Continental tire for what you do. Yeah. He was referencing a game that I did I believe with George mcginnis. The former great ABA player and George was my color commentator, and we did a game at Butler Fieldhouse. So it's Butler against Wisconsin. Green Bay and Tony hit the game winning shot hit a three and he was a really good player drafted by the Hornets. But his father was such a clinical type coach like everything they were they were practising pick and rolls. And it's you know, a veteran. Team in it. I was thinking oh my God. This would drive me crazy, but he left nothing to chance, and you were practicing the same things over and over and over, and you he went onto Wisconsin. But a brilliant coach great coach and congrat- Tony. But you know, it's got to be a fun night. Where you're watching your son win a national championship. Having a hard time watching your son win a national championship at that. Yeah. Mclovin. I couldn't do it. I would I'd be right there with the data. I had trouble watching it with not even a vested interest last night. No, I I'd be the same way. I'd be out probably walking the corridor. I just like peak in or something. Yeah. Phone do you find your find yourself last night, not knowing who to root for minutes minute. Like when tech would be down seven like come on tech. And then when Virginia was down and they're down three, and they that kick out three like all right Virginia. I I couldn't tell who to root for well. You had Virginia winning at. All. Right. But I I really enjoyed having Chris beard in here you oh boy that guy, but you know, no dog in the fight. No. I just wondered. To see a good game. It was weird. I wanted to have people be proud of college basketball. Because I I I love it grew up on it always wanted to be able to play college basketball, and I sort of just wanted a good game. And I was hoping that there wouldn't be controversy. But you just can't have that anymore. There's always something. And you know, it's just because of television technology, and you had that. But guys made big shots when they needed to and Virginia picks up the victory last night. I think UCLA UCLA still didn't have a coach, and I'm gonna guess they're gonna go after Texas Tech's crispier d- when he was on with us last week at the final four, and then I brought this up and he said I'm just here to win a game. Well, he was there. And he won that one game. He needed to win the other game. But I'm gonna guess Chris beard with that leverage. I don't know what he can ask for from UCLA. But if they're gonna go after him and take a big swing it. You know? And you know, crispier strikes me as the kind of guy who might just say, I love Lubbock, Texas. I don't want to go to Los Angeles. And you could live well in Lubbock. And he he was there is in a socio you'll the assistant head coach Bob Knight. Yeah. Mclovin. Timmy, say the same thing about Brad Stevens and about Chaka smart. I mean, they loved like they love their small town teams. But eventually they always seem to grow out of it. Okay. But Chris beard has been all over the map. In fact, he didn't even know all of the stops that he had when we questioned him he missed one. And it just feels like he wants to find a place where he says that's home because he's been he's been a vagabond coaching vagabond. He's a rand McNally. He's forty six years of age. Do you want to stay in Lubbock where they'll build a statue? Or do you want to go to UCLA, and I don't know what UCLA's gonna pay him. And also is there a buyout at Texas Tech? He signed a contract extension. I think a year ago two years ago. Oh, yeah. Fritzy? Then you still have that strike while the iron is hot. And you're the hot thing right now. And who knows what the future holds if they start to dip then this is the time when you can go to some major program right now. Yeah. Phone this may be a hot. I don't think UCLA is a better job in any way. Forget the money. Texas Tech has a great fan base. They pack the place men's women's basketball. They've got a lot of money down. They could pay him the conference is better for basketball, the Fancher. It's better for basketball. I wouldn't go to UCLA even for more money. I would say at Texas Tech. Yes. It does seem to be certain programs that we hold onto that we remember being great. But haven't been in a long time, and that UCLA feels like one of those where it's like, no, no, no. They're supposed to be a hot property. That's supposed to be a big job. Yeah. We keep saying it's still a great job. But I don't know if it's a great job because famously cheap, and then you're not going to buy out, you know, somebody's contract. And then you're gonna look at somebody Mick Cronin. If they take Mick Cronin. They'll go to the tournament. I think he's that good a coach. The question is how. Successful is good enough for UCLA right now. Yes, mclovin. I think we're being too country. I mean, Westwood Lubbock. You really think there's no advantages to go to UCLA, I think that's that's beyond high. It's westwood. It's the nicest campus on the planet. Although I mean, he's one of several it's an amazing place amazing history. The obvious answer is you Sheila. I think I don't know if it is. I I don't eat. It comes down to comfort like where are you comfortable view wanna be in Los Angeles where you're just another team in Los Angeles. You know, it's it's a Laker town. You own Lubbock? You are Lubbock, and then you can say, well, yeah, you're still in Lubbock. He seems to like that. So I would I be surprised of crispier took the job at UCLA. Yes. I would seem saying I feel like what engine just said is exactly the point. He's aside from it being in Los Angeles in California where you're like. Oh my God. It's amazing. What about the history right member? All that old stuff that they did that was awesome. And no it's still supposed to be that. That's the problem. And they're they're still living in that era. Like, the sixties and seventies where we're UCLA and now people go, and yeah, fritzy, what about the challenge of you could be the coach to bring UCLA back to that national prominence back to those wooden days not to that type of success. But you could be the one that gets UCLA back on the map that that's kind of how being the guy who put your school on the map in the first place. He almost won a national championship in the previous year. They went to the elite eight they beat Villanova. He's a good coach. He is. Yeah. Polling the one thing. I'd be more worried about if I were Texas Tech is someday when university of Texas comes calling Chris beard went there. They have the deepest pockets on earth. That's the one I know it's a couple of years down the road because they have a good shock. Oh, yeah. Yarmuk love you can Google any NBA team can have a vacancy and crispier DHS. Name comes up close to the bulls or one I tell you the NBA might call him too. I hope he doesn't do NBA. Defensively NBA could have work. I you know, you love this. But Tom fill is a defensive minded guy and his players hated playing for him who the hell wants to play defense when you get to the NBA while at work out like the NBA's where you don't have to play defense. Like, you know, that's what I was waiting for. If I got to the NBA, then I would have been great because I didn't play any defense supposed to be playing ball whose work him, by the way, we picked five fans to compete in our subway celebrity bracket challenge congrat- to Donny Jeffries. 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Geico, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance. Got a poll question in the on-deck circle. Your phone calls Clark Kellogg will join us coming up a little bit here. Not everybody thrilled with replay last night. Just judging from the reaction on Twitter quite a few people were offering their opinions. This from Jeff Schwartz replay was created a fix obvious miss calls and oversights. It wasn't created for whatever that was last night. If that's what you want replay to be then we need to review all plays like that inside two minutes because you never know pinky tip could graze the ball lands airline. This is the very reason that the expanded replays in the NFL, we're so concerning to me and why I was against it. I get that New Orleans got royally screwed, but that level of screwing that would cost a team a Super Bowl is an unusual outlier. This is now a potential pen door's box in the NFL as well. Tom e current this is. Cruder film BS Michael Beller were about about two decades into widespread replay review, and we're still letting unintended consequences rule. The day. Never was never will be the spirit of replay. But it was called correctly. That's this is the dumbest outrage of all time. People are watching people are watching the call made correctly. And they're like, yeah. But come on be wrong. That's the it's the dumbest ache of all time. But it also goes back to what we think of with baseball. Hey, it's the spirit of the game. If you get a coal wrong. You know, it's it's part of the game. And I'm going, okay. It's part of the game. And the game is on the line or championships on the line. And then we're going. Where's replay? Yep. Point. I think people are bothered by the natural fact that the player from Virginia's tapped the ball out of the Texas player at Texas Tech players hand, and he's the one who knocked out of bounds. Did it technically graze the guy's finger last. Yeah. Yes. And the replay called the quickly, but a minute earlier there was a ball out of bounce off tech guy. And they said it was tech ball, and they replayed it everyone in the booth all the guys Nance and the guy said that's off tech that should be predictable. They hit they said tech keeps it so Virginia got one. Called against them as well. Clark Kellogg, CBS Turner sports Westwood One college basketball analyst and joining US Clark. Let's pick up where we just left off with replay. Did it is it good? Do you like it too much too? Little. Oh, no. I like it. I like it. I think it's far more good than bad, but there's a human element that you can't override, and you sometimes can't dismiss with technology. But I like the complementary nature of technology to to help us get things. Right. That maybe we wouldn't have in the past. But I also understand and enjoy the human element. We're gonna flood names on the air. We're going to have our facts wrong when we're doing broadcast and be you me or anybody else. Officials are gonna miss calls coaches are going to make mistakes players too. So we're all human. So I think that element of it is unrelenting, and there's going to be there should be we have to accept it. And know that sometimes it's not gonna always work out in our favor when you're in the journey of life or the heat of competition. But also I look at how much is enough replay or not enough. White what is review -able or should reveal? Yeah. That's a great question. Dan. I don't know exactly where you draw the line. I think we've gone in a pretty good direction. But just because we have technology, and we think we can get everything right evidence shows that we can't. So I don't know. I mean, I think that's always going to be an ongoing debate. Where do you draw the line? What things should be reviewable? You know, you think about goaltending. And should that be something that's able to be looked at I tend to think it should be. But at what point how often I mean, again, you have to deal with those kind of nuances, and I heard you mentioned unintended consequences. Sometimes you don't know those until you go down a certain road with your decision. Virginia. Great team. Really really good team. And I would I mean, heck what thirty was that thirty five and three I think, but we have great teams anymore in college basketball. Oh, I mean, it depends on how you wanna look at it. I think we have. Obviously, the landscape is changed. But I I reserve I really try to be judicious with the word great in any circumstance just because it really is unique. When you start talking about great in any category. So I would say a championship very very good team was trying to for Jin. But if you were going to sum up this game last night for somebody who didn't see it. Uh-huh. Which is how would you sum it up? An excellent compelling championship game between two deserving teams. And I probably would leave it at that. You know, no monumental greatness. Either way really good teams styles that were obviously anchored and defense. But we got what we hope for in terms of compelling tight drama feel championship game and extra basketball to boot. So I think it's one of the better championship games. I'm seeing was my twenty third final four in some capacity as a broadcaster. And I would put it in the top top top five for sure of the twenty three that I've been part of as a broadcaster. If you're Texas Tech today. How are you feeling? Disappointed deflate. It. But good about the journey. I mean that may take a minute when you're in the heat of losing a chance to win a championship that doesn't just immediately go away. But I think those kids in that program, and the coaches will be I'm certainly the kids in the players kids in the coaches will be disappointed because they had an opportunity to do something Guber special, and yet they'll still take great satisfaction and pride and what they built together and some of it. We don't see Dan relationships. The share adversity overcome on the bond of friendship with the diverse group of guys. I mean, those things are are lifelong and lasts forever. And you've got this shared experience. Sure. It didn't end the way you wanted it to but there's so much in the journey that is life edifying life building and memorable and good. And I think you end up ultimately grabbing hold of that. And it's going to get better. For them as the years go on because they'll reminisce reconnect around this great journey and share stories. So I think it's painful now, but the good of it is going to be on Phil for a long time with those kids accomplice. He's Kellogg's CBS Turner sports. Westwood One college basketball analyst did you play against Barkley? Yeah. The NBA. Yeah. We never cross passing college. I got drafted in eighty two by the Pacers. He came to the Sixers in eighty four, and I'll tell you a story, man. I he always tells about when he was thinking about coming out of college or I made his decision to leave college leave all and after his junior year Sony Smith is coach gave him gave him three guys to kinda look at it that time to maybe model his game after under-sized kind of power forward that that had some parameter skill to. And it was me Dantley, and John drew. And so there was a an admiration from a distance Barclay towards me as a player. And then when we got to the league, I think the first time we met I got the best of them. And and he implies that it was because he was a little bit in all. And then the next time I saw him. He got the best of me because he wanted to prove that he was on our level. And I knew then this was his rookie year. I knew then he was headed for for greatness because of his competitive spirit in his unique package of strength and speed and skill does. He talk, you know, does he give you grief? Always man. He likes to jab. You know, it'll jab you while he's looking at you tab, you from the side of the back. I mean, he likes to start a Potman. He reminds me of some of my friends in Columbus that like to what we call instigate through trash talk. He keeps it he keeps. He keeps it fun. And he's such a good natured guy, I love the three weeks that I have with all those guys, obviously, you see Ernie and Kenny and then I'm with Greg and stuff quite a bit. But the three weeks we have together as fun in part because there's mutual respect. And we enjoy the game. And a good laugh. I'll leave you with this. If you're Chris beard and UCLA calls. Wow. Man. You know, what I'm? I'm all about fit, Dan. And sometimes even though it looks it shines and glitters in one way, it might not be the right fit for a guy like Chris. And I don't know Chris well enough to know what I do know. He's a fantastic coach. And he seems like terrific guy. But it's about fit and alignment fit in terms of where you'll be and alignment in terms of what you thinking. And what you're administration is thinking in terms of vision and direction and culture. And if those things aren't right, then I think you have to think long and hard about staying where they are right. Yeah. I think that's well said Clark. It was fun. And always appreciate your time. Thank you, always great to be with you take care. That's Clark Kellogg road. Do the final four Westwood One. College bounced by endless was one of the great high school players I ever saw spectacular and knee injury. He went to Ohio State and wasn't the same kind of player healthwise when he got to the NBA but been around long time doing this Virginia's the first team to win the national title and lead the nation in scoring defense in the same season since nineteen fifty nine when California did it Bill. Russell in San Francisco. Also did it in nineteen fifty five and fifty six, you know, it feels like if you're going to have players who were gonna stay longer. I can teach you defense. I can I can have a philosophical approach to defense, and I can have less talent. I might not get the one in done, but I get the experience talent. And then you know, Tony Bennett's teaching defense. Chris beards teaching defense. You know, Kentucky, you might think. John Keller Perry's like he gets he's one in donors and just let him play. He teaches defense we know coach K teaches defense, I think sometimes college basketball gets a bad rap that it's you know, kind of sloppy in the one in guns, but these coaches they're trying to teach defense, and it's not exciting. Like granted, you know, when you're watching through teams that are really good in defense, even in football in the NFL like we're so past that now where you go. I can't wait to watch the bears dominates somebody defensively. You wanna see offense same with college basketball? And then, you know, the advent of the three pointer and the willingness to build your offense around that is really interesting with college basketball. So you have coaches trying to teach defense Tony Bennett's stickler for defense, even though he didn't play defense when he played in college. But his dad was a great proponent of teaching defense when he was head coach. So defense wins championships. I don't care. What sport it still comes down to can you stop somebody when you need to stop them never fails. Tried and true. You know, you look back on the Rams against the sings they stopped them. They stopped them in overtime. And then one and then they went to the Super Bowl. The Rams couldn't stop the patriots. When they needed to you have to have that moment where can you play defense in the same? You know, the NBA playoffs could come down to that can somebody stops somebody when they need to on. Do you think that crispier and Tony Bennett will have trouble recruiting the top ten high school player because their defense first team and have had that trouble? But if I'm looking at Virginia and Kyle guy and tiger own they get to shoot. So you other asking for in this may sound like a strange idea. We're asking you to play both ends of the floor. That's it. Yeah. So that's what coach K says you can go there. We'll have fun. We'll run but you gotta play defense here. And that's what Virginia did pile guy got shoot whenever he wanted to. I told you you know, what was a couple months back tiger OEMs NBA player. He's a really wonderful player hunters going to be you know, a guy draft in the first round. I don't know if somebody takes a flyer on Kyle guy. I would not frayed great range and still hit some of the biggest free throws in the history of the sport. When you think what's at stake there, and he goes to the line and makes three and even last night. He was shooting a free throw with a couple of seconds. He was teammate. And he's like chuckling. And then all of a sudden, boom, boom like nothing. So pretty remarkable. All right. We'll take a break. We gotta play the day coming up stat of the day. We'll settle on a poll question as well. Busy first hour here in New York City down the danettes, Dan Patrick show. Okay. This is just a thirty second commercial. And I'm gonna throw a lot of numbers that you, please. Please stay with me. 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Couple of coming at critical moments. He finished with twenty seven leading all scores. Virginia gets its first ever national championship. Play of the day. Brought to you by truecar car shopping can be confusing terms like dealer price list price, invoice, truecar shows you what other people paid for the car you want. So you can recognize good price when you're ready to buy a new or used car, visit truecar and enjoy more confident car buying experience. Mclovin. Do you have a poll question for me and fritzy has mock headlines from last night's title game? Okay. I have a couple questions that are similar. What's good NCA tournament? I love when I'd say fritzy's got mock headlines, paulie, immediately turns around. Yes. Phone brits. He's off to a great start this morning. Good day yesterday. Twenty Bennett already today. He's concerned which rightfully so that could be something inappropriate to send it out to everybody. I knew you. You you're leading the marathon at the halfway point. And now, you're gonna drop back headlines. You know, I'm just putting it all into the center of the table is basically saying why ruin a good daytime. Are we still doing that same thing where if the first one does it work, I'm done coming? I'm gonna let you if you wanna go down in flames and continue to throw, you know, wood on the fire them. I'm okay with excellent. Okay. So we're ready for market to mock headlines music here for phychi. All righty. Here's my headlines from last night Scotto game is thought for all right? We're going to start enough with flublic Texas Tech comes up short not instead of Lubbock. He added it you'd be f- there. Okay. Humiliation to jubilation Cavaliers come full circle beard science formidable defense created not enough. He said a weird science. It's beard signs. What a guy Kyle named most. Outstanding. Okay. Okay. Blue raiders going to take a while to get over that one. Instead of the red raiders blue raiders imposing their Charlotte's will to national title. University of Virginia in Charlottesville. Imposing charlotte. Artists will be post near will. Okay. Give me way is that beyond a stretch rate Charlotte's web. That's what I thought. Okay. And we'll wrap it up with this sounds like I'm getting a look at your a Mooradian defeat balls now being served spaghetti and meatballs, Meridian and. Okay. All righty. You slip back in the pack here. The wall is a Kenyan going by you in a few of them. Yeah. They're gone. Thank you. Thank you, mclovin. Which poll question today? So I put it earlier in the hour was good NCA tournament. Overall. Fifty four percent said yes, now, I we could ask the question was last night. One of the best title games you've ever seen as Clark Kellogg said. It was he said top five that he's done. But so so five in the last twenty three years. But I I think I think the issue that CBS is probably going to have is how many people went out of their way to watch it. It's it's one of those things that you're watching it. And you may have you know, had somebody give you an update, and then you decided to you know, kind of tune in a little bit later on. I, you know, the first seven minutes weren't very good. And then after that it happens that way you got to settle down you get into your offense. Your defense a little bit more of a rhythm. And you block out, you know, the insularity stuff. But I thought it was exciting. I thought this was a great fun tournament. You had some really interesting moments there, you had a couple of players who came to the forefront that you probably didn't know everybody overshadowed by Cihan and Virginia to book end two seasons with losing in the first round, and then winning the national championship. I think it's a great story. It's not an exciting or sexy story. But it's a great story. Yes. Mclovin. Any problem with the nine twenty eastern tip off time would I like it to be a little earlier. I would. I would love for it to be eight twenty instead of nine twenty people on the west coast. I'm sure loved it. And you wanna get all time zones involved in it. It's just there. I remember growing up where you were able to watch games. I don't remember where it was so late that I couldn't watch a game. And I think a lot of these leagues are catering to a time instead of to an audience if that makes sense like I gotta make sure that the younger fans will watch. This are interested in this. And not hey, we got to put it on at nine twenty because we gotta get the west coast offense. Like there has to be a little bit of give and take there but nine twenty is is late for somebody on a school night. It's it's late for people left to work the next morning like us what other questions do you have? Okay. We could get into a replay new have a problem with this detail the use of replays. We saw last night if you have it then use it. Like you. You can't go, you know, what we shouldn't use it here because let's just let that one go. You know, what this game to be decided on a fingertip pinky? Well, if you're using it, then use it. That's all it it. It doesn't make sense to have it. And then say, let's pick and choose when we use it here. Yes. It would be kind of fun, though, if we instituted a new rule that was like, well the ball the guy touched the ball is touched it a little bit. And then it doesn't count like just got a fingertip on it doesn't really count. So I'd rather not have replayed. All. Just in all sports that well because I I'm with you. I think we're going to itemize so much and slow things down so much and we're going to scrutinize every single call with these officials. They get them wrong. They make mistakes, but we always added more replay. We're not we're not taking away. And then you add more. And then you have the advent of five K I four K change sports late show, we get this. And then, you know, the minutia that's going to be available there. I just I don't know how much you replay. When you replay like in the last two minutes. So we're going to replay everything. Okay. And then it's all well, something happened at two minutes and seven seconds. Let's make it the last three minutes, you know. And the reason why we change replaying the NFL was because of one call the New Orleans call that was horrible. I didn't want to change it. I just wanted to make sure the officials called it correctly or not have these all star. You know ref. Therese together you have teams together were there. No egos, where somebody can say, hey, you know, what John I think you made a mistake there. Yes. He people have gone absolutely insane today with a great play that. No that the conversation is about they got the call correctly and people didn't don't want it to be the right call. They want the wrong call to happen. That's actually people are saying today would have been better if they had stuck with the wrong call. That's I think people look at it. Go so stupid, doesn't it feel like the ball like Virginia knocked it out of bounds. Yeah. But they but it went off hand. Sorry. It's no different. If the guy had tipped it. And it went off his knee instead of his pinky sorry. Sometimes somebody tips the ball, and it goes back off your own body. Sorry that happens in the game a thousand times, I'm not big on the tuck rule with with Brady. And the raiders I think it was the wrong rule. But the interpretation of the rule was correct. I didn't like the rule because I think it was a fumble. But the tuck rule and how it's written. Then you call it that way instant replay. Is ruining sports because it keeps getting calls, right? That's basically what we're saying today replay keeps getting calls, right? And it's ruining the game days where we could be wrong. Just move out our lives. Exactly what people are arguing today doesn't. It seem like that would be a headline on the onion. Instant replays ruining sports as it gets all the coals. Right. We're living today. We're actually living this conversation. Yes. Mclovin. But I think the problem is still going to be two hundred wrong calls at a game. Like, you can't you can't catch everything with replay. Okay. But how much are we going to reply? That's what's open to replace what I wanna know like where we going if that had happened in the first four minutes with they've stopped the replay. I don't know maybe. But you they have a choice where they're allowed to stop. And look at it. There's no coaching challenges. Right. I don't know. Coming up. He wrote a book on the song. Walk this way. Jeff edges will join us. How that changed radio Abby Wambach raiders soccer player? US history. Will join us as well. We'll get to your phone calls. Eight seven seven three DP show. 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03/27: Our picks  straight up and vs. the spread  for the Sweet 16 games; coaching carousel hirings, firings and rumors

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03/27: Our picks straight up and vs. the spread for the Sweet 16 games; coaching carousel hirings, firings and rumors

"Hey there. It's scary parachutes Tuesday, March twenty six two thousand nineteen welcome back to the college basketball podcast, where we sometimes discuss Cama fighting AM leaky black man norlander is here with Ben. If you're wondering why we're talking to you on a Tuesday night instead of a win stay morning or like right in the middle of Tuesday night. Like in the middle of the night. It's because we're both flying on lens day norlander is off to Louisville. First thing in the morning. I'm often New York in the afternoon. So are options for either record Tuesday night Tuesday evening or wait to wins day evening, and I didn't wanna wait till Wednesday evening. So here we are. And what we're going to do on this podcast is run through the Thursday and Friday games, basically give our elite eight predictions. But I it's been a busy few days on a coaching carousel, Tim miles out at Nebraska. No surprise, most people. I think including Tim expected that to go down the way that it went down. Mike Anderson is out at Arkansas, Dave rose is retiring. At BYU. Steve Prohm got an extension at Iowa State in either surprise, you know lender. The no not not not not surprising two weeks ago. Anderson would surprise me felt like the noise on that increased particularly over the weekend. And then it dropped late on Tuesday. The the Tim mile stuff was a longtime coming. I thought he was gone either way with a good season or not back in the preseason. So he makes his exodus their Prome that was just one of those deals where that so. Bama open when I was in Hartford. I remember sitting on press row. And then I don't know I saw like seven people say St. promo into Ella. Bama. He would be a top target. And that was probably true. But I was state got out ahead of it. And he signs an extension there which locks him in while Alabama continues its search for its next coach Dave rose, retiring I did watch about ten minutes of his press conference, very emotional. Frankly, hell of a watch parish, you know, roses been there. Fourteen years taking the eight tournaments went to eight tournaments and a nine year stretch at one point obviously, peaked in the twenty ten twenty eleven season with jimmer for debt the thing. That's amazing me about Dave rose, some listeners probably wear the some might not be Dave rose beep pancreatic cancer, which is which does not have a high success rate. And the fact that he did that and he is still healthy was able to coach long after that has really been one of the more. Amazing stories and coaching if not under told stories and coaching in the past ten to fifteen to twenty years. So he steps down it'd been four straight years with BYU not making the Manatt making the tournament. So we'll wait to see who who lands that job Utah valley. Coach Mark pope who wasn't assistant under rose has been considered the front runner for that for a while. So keep an eye on that. I'll just I'll allow this back to you. And and just ask you one. You know, Fred Hoiberg, snakes invest around the Brassica that seems like a mere matter of formality at this point. So your thoughts on that. And your thoughts on Arkansas in general because the AD now at Arkansas was the eighty that hired Kelvin Sampson to Houston. My opinions this I'm not sold that that Kelvin Sampson is leaving Houston for console. It can happen. But I don't think that that is as much of a sure thing as if you're a type of person that follows the coaching carousel like as the stuff at breaking your kind of a college hoops junkie. I think it's definitely on the table. But I'm at this stage. I'm not totally convinced that Samson's Lieven h down for Arkansas. The only thing that Arkansas can do to convince him is just make incredible amounts of money. Just put incredible amounts of money on the table. These SEC's schools have so much money. Now, if they wanna pay a basketball coach five million dollars a year, they can remember a few years ago, Alabama like put an open check on the table for Gregg Marshall, and we're willing to pay him whatever they needed to pay him. He just didn't want to go coach there, but it wasn't a money deal. So Arkansas can put real difference making money in front of Kelvin and maybe get him to jump, but what he has to figure out and this is reasonable minds can disagree on this. But what he has to figure out is do you wanna go be at a middle of the pack job in a power five league. Or do you wanna have one of the better jobs in a top seven leak? You know, you you you he's already shown and by the way, I think he'd win it, Arkansas. The guys wanna everywhere he's been his career is really amazing. He was obviously. You know, I it starts at Montana tech. And he went back to back league titles there then goes to Washington state alternately gets them to an inside of light tournament bounces to Oklahoma goes to one two three four five six seven eight nine straight in CWA tournaments, including a final four, then he eventually bounces to Indiana. And you know, he had Indiana twenty two and four overall eleven to in the big ten when he got fired for the NCAA violation stuff. But if he were allowed to keep that job he would have been rocking and rolling at that job for a while again. I mean, he had Eric quickly came in recruited got Eric, Gordon. And then he's got him off to an amazing start. They were ranked fifteenth in the country at the time when he got fired than Dan dockage took it over and went three and four in the final seven games as interim coach just drove it straight into the ground, but Kelvin Sampson handed him a great team. And there's no reason to think that team that program wouldn't continue to operate at high level had he stayed there. And then he takes the Houston job. I years tough transition year. But in your to goes wins. Twenty two games goes the your three wins. Twenty one games goes the IT last year twenty seven wins advances in the instability tournament. And now he's sitting here at thirty three wins in the Sweet Sixteen. He would win anywhere best I can tell so he's got figure out. Do I want to just keep what I've got going at Houston or do you want to try to rebuild something in a league that is now stacked with quality basketball coaches in a league that has now stacked with quality recruiters. And I don't know that there's a clear answer to that question. Agree with all of most of if not all of that keep an eye on what Kelvin Sampson says in the next couple of days here. We'll we'll local media Tim and questioned on this. Or will he be asked about it at media saleability ability on Thursday in Kansas City because Houston plays Friday night. It's actually the last tip of the Sweet Sixteen this just adds another element to all of that with miles being gone, Arkansas for just a minute. Okay. Mic. Andersen. Obviously, the reason this jobs open. He gets fired after eight years he had been in two of the past three Sita tournaments three of the past five in advanced in two of them on a surface level. That's pretty good. But he's never been to a Sweet Sixteen. He's never finished better than third in the SEC snowy finished second one year. But never wanted SEC title only finished in the top three. Twice in eight years, and they had no recruiting class on the way. This year was not good in next year was going to be more not good at least on paper and at a time. When so many SEC programs are breaking through whether it's in recruiting rankings or just in on the court results, actually think it was probably time to pull the trigger on this. I obviously because of where I live. I've got lots of friends who are Arkansas graduates Arkansas fans and to a man they were ready to move on like, nobody. You know? Mike Anderson deserves credit he never bottomed out at Arkansas. Right sometimes coaches bottom out, but he also never like really took it to where honestly I thought he would take it because this is still a program, and I forget about this. And then every once in a while somebody brings it up, and it's like, oh man that is true. And that is incredible to think about did have been Sweet Sixteen since nineteen Ninety-six not. It. I mean, it's insane because Nolan Richardson had a seven year stretch in the early nineties, I guess, I guess late eighties early nineties where it was a seven year stretch went to six sweet sixteens. Three final fours and one national championship. And that program has not been into a Sweet Sixteen since nineteen ninety six like think about this think about your an Arkansas basketball fan, and you've you've just enjoyed a seven year stretch where you've gone to three final fours and won a national title, and then Nolan Richardson takes you to the nineteen Ninety-six Sweet Sixteen that's year after you've played for the national championship a year two years after you won the national championship, and I stopped you right now. And I say, hey, listen, here's the deal. I know you just played for. I know you've just got you went to the Sweet Sixteen last year. You played the national title game two years ago. You won the national championship in the past seven seasons. You've made six sweet sixteens you won't make another one again, at least until two thousand twenty you let. Yeah. Yeah. It's impossible to imagine. But it is actually the truth. It is wild. You were to call him in that a few years back. You say he didn't bought out. He didn't. And he never peaked. I I think the changes fine. We by the way, if you're trying to keep track at home. Vandy got rid of Bryce drew which was shocking to me. Kennedy outed. Am now you have Bama that's open. You have Arkansas that's open and LSU almost certainly going to open so five SEC jobs. It will be a it will be a spring and summer of change over there. Specifically with Arkansas, though, he talked to coach sport people that just, you know, are in college basketball around it the opinion is that that program really should be operating as a as a top thirty program on an annual basis. There is no pro team of any sort in that state Arkansas, obviously loves it's football as well. But you can you can make a case that when the is rolling that is just is a basketball for school. And that's that is a huge arena. Plays him, by the way. It's one of the bigger ones in college basketball, so landing the right hire pretty important, given the coaching talent in the league into how the SEC is made strong strides in the past three or four years. Wait to see on what kind of candidate pool develops. Honestly. Like, I don't know Arkansas. Try and kick the tires on Gregg Marshall would Arkansas consider say someone like Mike young who is been good at Wofford. Yeah. I'm gonna get offer mentioned in damn right? I will but in all seriousness, like we'll might young get an opportunity to just at least an interview if the Covent Samson stuff doesn't work just keep an eye on that. I I sometimes think that we will say this sports better when this team's goods sometimes I think that's true. And sometimes I'm like, whatever. But because I grew up in college basketball in the nineties, I still do have like I vividly remember watching those Arkansas teams in the early nineties, and that was no small part. And why I fell in love with the game watching the Kentucky's and Carolina's Arkansas, Duke. Toby Toby Bailey with UCLA so all those teams really up to say ninety six Kentucky ninety seven Zona played a big part me falling love with the sport. So. For personal reasons. I would just love to see Arkansas finally be good again. But it seems like, you know, minimum two years probably more like three before that happens. You mentioned earlier Steve Prohm in was at least reportedly candidate at Alabama and agreed to this extension Isla St. which essentially removes him from that conversation. I it doesn't have to. But for intents and purposes, it probably does. And there's either two reasons one of two reasons why he got that done so quickly either. A he just wanted to end the speculation. Hey, I wanna be an Ames Iowa. And he has said that publicly and I will take him at his word. I have no reason to believe I have no reason not to believe him. But it also could be found out pretty quickly. He's not going to be the guy at Alabama. Right. And then you use the perceive leverage go and get a new deal done before that leverage goes away. Either way. This is my point. If I never try to coach what they should do because they have their own reasons for doing what they do. And it's just because I might say man, I think I would leave for this job. If I was this guy, I'm projecting. I can't possibly know. What matters to this guy? I guess. I mean, I guess I could possibly no I could ask them right and talk to him about it. But sometimes what's important to me is important of the people in vice versa. So I never go, man. This coach is crazy if he doesn't do this. But. It's weird relationship between Steve and the state fans at least from what I can tell from a distance because he's been good there. Three AA tournaments. He's advanced in two of them. He's one two big twelve tournament titles by any sort of normal standard. He has been a good. Replacement for Fred Hoiberg. And yet every once in a while even in this season, which was a mostly good season where he dealt with suspensions and injuries and still took them to the NCAA tournament and won a conference tournament. I would see like fire STI prone stuff all the time on just like pop it up on Twitter. And if your fan base doesn't properly appreciate you when things are going relatively, well, it can get really ugly for you. If they start to not go well and given that every program in the big twelve I was thinking about this today. Tell me if you think this is true every program in the big twelve is a quality basketball program. There's no reason you can't win in any of them. Whereas like the big tenders Rutgers. That's tough deal. There's Penn State that's tough deal. I mean, there's no I don't know beard is making it easier than it is Texas Tech. A course, and I think Jamie Dixon, make it look easier than it is at TCU. But like in the past few years, somebody has wanted every all of those programs. Yes. And that's pretty interesting. My point is this somebody's gotta finish tenth. Somebody's gotta finish eighth in ain't like you're just automatically going to be better than certain schools because all these schools are good enough to compete, for instance, tournament appearances in certain years with certain rosters. You can you can go toward the bottom of that league pretty quickly. Even if you are doing a good job. Bob Huggins, finish down there this season for all of these reasons, I think that if I were Steve Prohm, and I could have gotten Alabama. I'm might a seriously looked at trying to get there. But I'm not sure either he didn't want to or perhaps. Wasn't in the cards for him. But I I was surprised when the extension was announced earlier on Tuesday. All right. So let me tie this together for you. That removes any sorta like Prome leaving Fred Hoiberg returning back. And now, it's you know, LARs Anderson who was former staff writer Sports Illustrated did a great job covering football. And this time there he tweeted out a week ago. I mean, he went on the record that Fred Hoiberg. It's firm and final he's going to be the next coach Nebraska. So we just wait for that to to finalize in the coming day, maybe Prentice with s their days. So I I would say people who cover the sport are under the impression that this is going to be Fred Hoiberg. Taking over Nebraska. Here's my to Nebraska one. It was ridiculous. This played out like this for ten miles Tim miles while it wouldn't have been a great scenario. Really would not have had an issue if you fired him after the big ten tournament like kind of extending through this IT thing when everyone knew what was going down was completely necessary by Bill, moose whose rightfully. You know, had some mudflat in proverbially with what's happened here to the point where you know, two miles. It's just trying to leave Brassica facilities on Monday and local local newscasters are also trying to do their job. But it's just like a situation. No, one needs to be like ten mile shouldn't have to be tracked by people going to his car as he's trying to leave. It was an embarrassing thing on behalf of Bill, moose and the Nebraska administration. He finally cuts ties on Tuesday miles will land on his feet. We'll wait and see where and we'll see if there's a job that he wants this year or if he waits here. I think he's gonna wait. But we'll see we'll see what crops and props up here, actually as we're recording this podcast, like thirty seconds, go. I just saw that rousting tweeted Kyle Smith who was at Columbia. Then got the San Francisco jobs a good job with them this season. He is like essentially locked into the Washington state head coach so good on him. If that winds up being the case, I know Washington saints. We're hoping to land ten miles. I didn't think that was ever realistic. Anyway, is miles. We'll get another head coaching job. I would guess that within honestly three hundred ninety days from now that he's coaching somewhere. Maybe it will be within two weeks from now. But that puts Hoiberg to Iowa State, so parachute thoughts, Nebraska and Hoiberg if indeed. And if and when he winds up taking the courthouse shop, I agree with you about the way it was handled with Tam having him talking to television reporters a parking lot yesterday a day after his season ended. It's pretty clear. Bill new. He was going to do this for a while. So just do it. They want. Why why do you have to wait till Tuesday to do something you could've done honestly on Sunday night. If you're a member when Auburn fired Tony Barbee, they released a statement on it within five minutes of the game going final Auburn lost in the SEC tournament. I think it was like a. It was just remember being a night game. And I don't think Tony had even met with the media yet. And it was like boom already got the press release. We're gonna make a coaching change. We wish Tony and all the best, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and that felt a little partly. But at least it's done. You don't make somebody sit there and think about it in a very talk about it in a very public way for another forty eight hours, but whatever it's done now and. If you I think Nebraska fans liked Tim miles, but best I can tell from social media is that they were ready to do something different. And they will be excited about Fred Hoiberg because why wouldn't you and so? I don't think I would have fired two miles. But if you go out and replace him with the big name that your fan base can suddenly get excited about again and believe in than than than, you know. The Brassica basketball is is gonna be interesting. Fred is a massive name. He was incredibly successful at Iowa State. And I do think it's funny. And I don't know maybe these things are totally unconnected. But the last two jobs Fred has taken. It's like it's been situations where for weeks in advance of taken and people like, oh, yeah. He's gonna be the next head coach struggles. Oh, yeah. That thing with embrasse Kaz done. Like, nothing leaks out earlier for whatever reason than than Fred Hoiberg future plans. We knew literally weeks before he took the bulls job that he was going to be the next head coach the bulls. And now, you know, according to reports from last week, it was done deal to Nebraska and within hours of officially. Firing two miles. Evan Daniels reported that they're in serious Cox and expect to finalize a deal with Fred Hoiberg. That's kind of funny that that these things. I don't know with Fred we sometimes coaches make decisions, and we we learn about them twenty four hours in advance. Or or thirty minutes in advance with Fred it's several weeks for whatever is. Yeah. I think I think that will work. It does seem like a good fit. There were questions over. Would return to the college game. His name was attached to the UCLA job to a certain extent. But I stop believing that was going to be likely 'cause if he would have been the front runner, given the fact he wasn't employed like that would have been wrapped up at this point. That was that was my running theory as of early March. But no matter he looks set to return, and I think it winds up working just I just want to clue listeners. If you're if here are the list of notable jobs that will have changed over just real quick UCLA. Obviously, we wait on that, Arkansas. I would say the second best job now in the market behind UCLA just happened today. Alabama Texas am which the working theory in the industry. Now, maybe Virginia Tech's run will affect this. But the working theory is that buzz Williams is the primary target for Texas. Am I mentioned on the podcast few weeks ago? We'll see if things keep on keep on with that Cal opened by the way, recently Weiqing Jones that was reported that actually he was given another year and then. The players went to director to have a little chitchat. So now he is out CAL's job in the Pac twelve that is open. Temple closed because they already set up air Makita takeover friend. Dumpy UNLV is open Nebraska's open Vanderbilt's open, Saint Joe's with Fillmore tallies. Open. Now BYU is open opening in Washington state open. I would say those are the biggest jobs if you're trying to get a handle and grasp on all of this. There are going to be more than open in terms of power conference major conference jobs, maybe one or two more. We'll wait and see on this see who UNLV can land who can't. But. I actually think we said a podcast record this season. I think it's just because the games were compelling a lot to and got to the coaching staff. Plus anyway parish this really is like is like that first weekend the tournament and then this week. There's a lot of shuffling and interviews and then into that Friday, Saturday final fours when really the most action happens, so it's actually going to be relatively chaotic. It's always a weird time of year 'cause love the tournament. But then guys are losing jobs and trying to keep track of who's going where it's it's one big mess. Then of course, LSU is likely to open, I think that's a reasonable way to put it. So and then you you still don't know what this federal trial coming up next month could could bring to the surface, and perhaps we can get some more some more changes. They're also NBA could maybe pluck a college coach that could create change set off a domino effect, but busy times on the coaching character sale. But let's turn our attention to the game. We're going to break down all the Sweet Sixteen games next. But first check this up when it comes to traditions. 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It's on CBS America's most watched network network stars most warded network, it's going to tip it seven owned nine eastern in Gonzaga is minus seven a half one of the things when I was talking about this game somewhere is that I do have winning the game. I think most people are gonna have zag win the game. But seven and a half seem like a big number against a Florida state team that sixteen in two and it's past eighteen games. Loan losses coming to North Carolina. It does seem like a big number for sure. These teams in the deterrent last season. Florida state one it seventy five to sixty knocked off Gonzaga. So see if they can continue that year over year. They got a lot of same characters in both of these games. But for zag in particular, the big differences as Brennan Clark this time around Brennan clock did not play in this game last season. So having him will be a big time difference maker the fact that he went for thirty six points and five blocks only Shaquille O'Neal David Robinson done that in the tournament game. No small thing and core kiss played really well as well in the Baylor game for Gonzaga's if you can make a difference. My GP. My pick is to win the game straight up covering wise. I think has to be the play here this region, by the way, Gonzaga's is to get through it. First of all it's facing a floor team that is top ten top twelve defensively in college basketball. And then it's got to play one of the two top defenses in Texas Tech or Michigan. So Gonzaga will have earned it to Minneapolis if indeed it can break on through expect a pretty interesting game competitive game. I'll be watching this on my computer as I'm watching the game in front of my face in Louisville will to just a minute. But I believe you're writing zags with just as a matter of whether or not you're going to take take the points. Like, I did with Florida state. Yeah. I pick. I'd have zag winning the game Florida state covering the the seven and a half. But the point you make is something I'd sit on CBS sports H Q. I think earlier today, which is if you ask me which. One seed has the toughest path to a final four. I think it is. And it doesn't mean I think is the weakest foot one seed. But when you've got a beat a twenty nine win team from the ACC that sixteen to and it's past eighteen games loan losses coming to one seeds that in this incident tournaments. You got to beat that team to get to the elite eight, and then you're playing either the number one ranked defense in the country or the second ranked defense in the country in terms of just defense officiency like you're going to have to be good. And that maybe this is just the byproduct of chalky first two rounds that basically now to get to the final four you gotta beat to really good teams. But I think in is next to whether it's Florida state and in Texas Tech or Florida state and then Michigan. I think that's the toughest to team combo anyone seeds going to have to deal with. Yeah. I think that's that's probably the case. I think Keefer this one for those watching at home or heck if you're watching this, and you're going to be in the Rena good for you gonna get some pretty awesome games there in Anaheim, Josh Perkins. Being able to handle the pressure from Florida state throw Terrence Mann on them. I don't know who they're gonna throw on Perkins. But his success might be a bit of a barometer for Gonzaga when in here because Perkins has been good. But he was like he was terrible in the in the Saint Mary's WC title game. If they get a review performance of that like it could spell doom. I think he's actually like he's best player. But really he might be the most important player in this game. Given the way the Florida state place defense, and so we're both taking zag to advance. But ATS will take the plus seven and a half slits move to the other game on Thursday night in the west regional, and that's going to be a Texas Tech. Michigan also on CBS America's most watched network network stars most boarded network nine thirty nine eastern tip. Inside the Honda center. Anaheim. Michigan is a two point favorite over Texas Tech. And this is a game between again, the teams that were ranked number one and number two in adjusted defensive efficiency. What do you got give you the red raiders here? Number one in defensive efficiency, number two and two point percentage defense really good down low really good on the perimeter. They have relatively experienced players JIRA culverts been just awesome. As late averaging. I looked it up today. GPS twenty six and change and eight rebounds over this past four games or maybe there's twenty nine and a half. It's he's been awesome. Matt mooney. DVD Moretti have been really sell those long distance rates for them the over under on this was low. I can't I don't have in front of me. I don't remember ever being relatively low like to the point where it just kind of teasing you. I know. Number. I'm looking at. Yeah. That's that might you know, in terms of over under that just seems a little oh than I was expecting. But I will I will take Texas Tech looked very good. And it's I do games had no issue with northern Kentucky a mere annoyance there in the first round. And then completely flipped over buffalo. As we mentioned on the on the previous podcasts there. So I'll take outright straight up which means that they win and they move onto their second consecutive elite eight and my final tag on that is. Talk about jobs and openings like who knows who's going to let at UCLA, but Chris beard makes a final four like I just don't see how he's not a top three list for UCLA try and puck away there. But they gotta get there. I and I think they will be at least one game away. Gimme a red raiders over Michigan on Chris beard. I think he's established himself as one of the great coaches in the sport. I do think he's going to have other opportunities when his season it's done. If you're Alabama. Why don't you just put five million dollars on the just just by him? Just by him from Texas Tech like crisp crispier has one at Little Rock in Texas Tech. You can't do that unless you're awesome. Why wouldn't if you if you got that kind of money, you just say, we want to have an awesome basketball program. This guy can give it to us here. Here's here's six years. Twenty five million dollars. Cumby are basketball coach Chris beard has has leading nomadic coaching existence. Now, he there is a bit of Texas connection in particular with with the university. He's at so potentially. Why not Arkansas to say you were here wanted to my knowledge crispier doesn't have anything against Arkansas. He was just in Little Rock for a hot minute, and then took UNLV and then took a Texas Tech. So yeah, I think there's you're right. There's not going to be a shortage. But it's just a matter of if if that money will will lure him away or not or if he's going to say, you know, what if I want the big money. Maybe I wanna make sure the my next jump all due respect to an Alabama. And maybe even in Arkansas, but I might wanna go to a, you know, a bona fide for sure top twenty job. I don't know. But what I do know is he's already candidates places. And if you make a final four, then it's just it. It only enhances and strengthens and brightens that light, you know, five ten fold. So we're going to differ on this game. I've got Michigan winning it. But I will tell you. I don't feel this is one where I don't actually feel that confident about it. Texas Tech was awesome. And around thirty two as you put it just destroyed buffalo. In Michigan's only ten and five and it's past fifteen games. That's great. So they started seventeen in which makes the record thirty and six. You know, thirty six looks amazing because it is. But especially after you lose pieces from champion for team that played for the championship a year ago. But from mid January on they have been a slightly different basketball team than they were in their first seventeen games again ten and five in the past fifteen if they lose this when it'll be ten of and six in the final sixteen games of their season. But I'm still gonna take him. I'm going to trust John beeline. But that's a tremendous coaching match up. I really like both of those guys. I think they're two of the very best. And it should be no surprise that. They're meeting Sweet Sixteen because I think they're going to be in a lot of Sweet Sixteen both of them for as long as I keep coach GP. Let's get to where I am going to. That's louisville. Let's catty corner caddie cornered in the bracket. West up looking to the right in the south regional what game our viewers going to be watching. I on Thursday night seven. Twenty nine eastern tip off. It'll be a second seeded Tennessee against third seeded Purdue this is at the center in Louisville, Tennessee, minus one and a half the game's going to be on TBS. You take involves or Boilermakers? This is to me set up as the best. It's the game. I think has the most likely chance of being awesome. That's the way. I put this one. I'm going to take Tennessee, which has been shaky no doubt about it. Got a got an ice push from Colgate. And got a real scare from Iowa, but it survives. It stays on and good for Tennessee for getting this far. And this is. Setting up one more win even just one. I'm not even saying they gotta get to the final four. I think just one more win. This is the best season in program history. So an awesome special thing these guys have built their I will take Tennessee. To win this. They're getting one point they're giving one point excuse me. I think that they'll cover in that regard, obviously with the line that's small, but I think that I think this is going to be just an awesome game as long as Carson shows up to play. He's got more producer not just one team. But Carson Edward says come on so strong as late very impressive thing that is going to be also relatively high scoring which is why I think it's got a chance to be such an awesome game. Just wanna see if Ryan Klein can can contribute from deep. No gel eastern seems relatively healthy. If you can still be effective on defense. I'm looking forward to that hand just a small coaching produce distant Greg Gerry whose son was the kid who got job ranch shoes in the video. I talk by the way good week for the Gary family. Nash Gary gets job shoes. And then Greg Gary has been hired at Mercer. So he will have that job. And he's going to the so con- so good on him. Hill. Obviously be with the staff for this game. He's going to be with Purdue for as long as it seasons last. But that's just a coaching note with the Boilermakers there. But give me Tennessee. I you mean Purdue no give me Tennessee to win. Oh, okay. All right. Well, I've got to see as well. I've got to go into the final four some obviously not gonna pick them to lose in the Sweet Sixteen and I know that they got pushed by a lesser big Tintin in the round of thirty two. But there's such a long list of teams that go to final floors or even win national championships that in the opening two rounds of the tournament. They got pushed had to go to overtime head to rally to come back and you start to go. Well, they're vulnerable. Maybe they're not as good as I thought. And then they just March right into the final four and that ends up being. As much as they got tested in on their way to the final four. And I think that might end up being the case with Tennessee. Although, obviously if Tennessee gets to the day, it's probably going to be dealing with Gina team that know. It's just about blow out proof. I think so unless the plan you MBC, of course, so I'll take to the see how about this. I think to the wins the game relatively comfortably and ends up. Having an easier time with a good Purdue team. Then they had with a just okay, I t. That's not the most outrageous, take selfishly. I'm hoping to get at least one good game here on Thursday night and Louisville, and I think this one has a much better chance of being game than the other one. But but but we'll see obviously the second. So we agree on Tennessee winning. We just disagree. Maybe on the style the path it takes to get there. And then Virginia, Oregon, what are your thoughts on that GP? Oh, it's gonna tip at eight nine fifty nine eastern on Thursday night. It'll be on. It is the top seated for Jimmy Cavaliers twelfth seeded, Oregon ducks. And if you thought that total in Texas Tech, Michigan was low one twenty six this one's one nineteen and Virginia's lane eight and a half points. I just think a gain that's going to be played between two defensive teams that are this good. I think for wins the game but eight and a half points at for juniors tempo against a great defensive team. Just seems like too big of a number to me. Listen, we're not betting the games. But we talk about this on CBS sports HQ we make the picks on the site. This is like a game. Where even if I did like, I wouldn't I what this is. We are you you're giving that many points. And you say it's one nineteen when I did CBS sports HQ. It was one eighteen like that guest on Monday. When I did that's just that is a crazy low number, but Virginia's the slowest team possesses per game. College basketball, an organ is the bottom ten percent there. So that's why that's why we have a game. That's that's slow and low, obviously, I like Virginia to win that if you've been listening to the podcast and paying any sort of attention. I'm weighing on Virginia. Not just getting them in the apples. But having some success thereafter, Oregon had favourable matchups. I I under- estimated the ducks in terms of what it was getting with Wisconsin. And then even whether food face case state or Irvine it's played well, but I believe that those those opponents were set up well for them this one a much different scenario overall. And how about this after Virginia gets a real legitimate scare from Gardner Webb? And then just gets you know. Oklahoma lingering around. I'm gonna say Virginia wins this one with a relatively little drama, but not a huge margin. So one of those games where it just it ends and Virginia's you look up for Judas one sixty five fifty eight and you're like, yeah. But like was that entertaining at all in the final ten minutes that you honestly think that Oregon was going to be able to come back. That's how I see playing out. So if I'm gonna say, you know, what that's that's my final score GP. So sixty five fifty eight which means that's the over. But but Oregon covers yeah, I've got for Jinnah when in the game, but Oregon covering keep in mind, Oregon is ten ano and it's past ten games ten game winning streak and in eight of those ten games organised held its opponent to fifty four or fewer points. So they've been guarding light. Crazy. I saw somebody tweet that since some date. I don't know if it was February eighteenth February twenty third, but from some date in February nobody has been better in terms of from a defensive efficiency rating than than the Oregon ducks. And so even though they're only fifteenth in defense visionary on the season. They're much better than that lately. And I'll just trust that they can hang around. I don't think they'll seriously threat for threaten for Jinya. But I do think they can hang around well enough to to cover that in the half. So we both have for Jinya Vanson in the bracket, but Oregon covering the. Eight and a half points. Let's go to Friday, and we're gonna start in the east regional because that's where the earliest game tips off seven oh nine eastern on CBS. It's America's most watched network network stars most awarded network, it's LSU as the three seed against Michigan state state as the two seed, Michigan state a six point favorite. This has happened in Washington DC going down in DC get a funky feeling on the scheme parish. LSU has our I would say with no Lankford on the floor. I would say LSU as much talent if not more than Michigan state. Can state slight advantage into coaching department. No-fence Tony Benford. Tom Izzo has long established his accurate for for doing this thing and LSU does not have its head coach. So. I can't remember what I sent to our editors, I know Michigan state winning. I think I took Sparty to cover, and you know, what doesn't matter on the podcasts. I'm gonna take them to cover here as well. Perhaps come to regret it whenever we do. Our first round picks. When we do our mega tournament spectacular podcast. I tend to mention the one or two games where I'm convinced that no matter what I pick them going to be wrong. I kinda get that feeling with the with this one GP like kind of thinking that like no one's gonna give LSU chance. We're gonna look up, and they will Wade list team is going to be planning to get to the final four. And what a heck of a story that would be it'd be an incredible story. And I will say that we sort of at least I did the idea of, you know, LSU now being run by Tony Benford, who let's just be honest. Didn't have a great run at nor Texas, and I will say he's already done more with this team that I thought he would do with this team in the round of thirty two against Maryland. Like, maybe you just couldn't tell in the round sixty four no matter who was coaching them. But in the. Round of thirty two against Maryland. I didn't think they look like a team playing without their head coach in obviously, you know, Michigan state's different challenge altogether. And I am going to take Michigan state to win the game and Michigan state to cover. But I won't be shocked if LSU with Trump waters, and in Naasi going win this thing because like you said, I do I think you could reasonably argue that LSU has the more talented roster, even if LSU has an interim coach and the other team has Tommaso. I agree. Now you wanna get to the big dog game. Here that's going to be tipping off around nine thirty nine eastern in Washington DC. It's the other game in the east regional it is for Jinya tech against Duke. That's the one seat against the foresee. These are both ACC teams they played earlier. This season's I on wasn't in the lineup for Duke. Justin Robinson was not in the lineup. For junior tech Duke is a seven and a half point favorite in this one. Will you dare pick against Mike? She asks blue devils straight up. I will not. But I have thought about it often. I've dreamt about it. But I'm not gonna go there. Does it perished? Do you feel like? People are more in on Virginia Tech because of the UCF Duke game and do kind of get close shave winner. Maybe that's you know, the one close game they'll face and until our when and if they make the final four, I think we're going to look back on duke's run to the final four and go man, they almost got got called by UCF. But then they they handle their next two games pretty easily. I think that's what's going to happen. I think Duke wins. It's next two games by anywhere from seven to fifteen points. If not if not complete blowouts and the UCF game will just be the one where they almost got caught. But it would not be an indicator of things to come. And I might be the only person on the planet who believes this. But I came away impressed by Duke, by the way, it handled the UCF situation as opposed to worried about Duke, and the reason is because when you're down four points to an underdog and you're the favorite to win the national champion ship. There's this real game pressure. They like to run it back tomorrow or even come back next year. Again, this is a one shot deal. These dudes are gone after this year and three different players made massive place in the final minutes. I Cam reddish knock down that big three to cut the four point one. Then Zion takes right at taco fall gets the hoop and the foul then our debate gets the offensive rebound on the missed free. Throw puts it back in the idea that all three of those guys were able to in that moment. Stay composed. A freshman heavy team stay composed rally. Make big plays to me that was more encouraging than the fact that they found themselves in that situation was discouraging although I can recognize that fob reductions put bag just like roles one way instead of another. We're all talking about UCF Virginia Tech as opposed to for genetic. But I thought did some incredible things under pressure that might serve them. Well, going full. I'm not with you on. We're gonna see Duke in the final four one because I don't think duke's making the final four, but to we're going to look back and say that was the only close game. I think Virginia Tech will play this game close. I would take for Jimmy tech to cover. I will take due to win narrowly. I don't think the for Jimmy tech will play them quite as much to a close shave the way that UCF did. But I expect this to be a ribbon game a good game in part because I think that for junior tech will play well from the perimeter it will shoot. Well, Duke will be just okay. And because of that Virginia Tech, it's always gonna be within striking distance potentially. Could even have the lead with less informants to go. I will trust due to just barely get out again. So we agree blue devils onto the elite eight, but we disagree. I have ET covering sounds like you've got the blue devils. Yeah. I'm gonna take Duke to to win the game and Duke to cover the game. I think they win this by I don't know somewhere around ten points or so let's go to the mid west region. The first game is gonna tip off at seven twenty nine eastern. It's going to be on TBS. It's in Kansas City, Missouri. It's North Carolina as a one c playing Auburn as a five seat. And I I think if you told me I could only watch one game in the Sweet Sixteen I probably watch the game long as I'm being honest. But in terms of entertainment value like that game's going to be fun. I think North Carolina. Auburn is going to be a lot of fun to top ten offenses incredible guards on both side, or at least really good guards on both sides. UNC's a five point favorite overall. What he got there? Okay. So I'm I'm taking North Carolina. And of course, now, we can we can acknowledge that we have all four one seeds. We went onto the elite eight which is not unprecedented. But also isn't as common as you might think. If this was UNC Kansas bet that the Kentucky Houston game would have gotten first billing, but you throw in Auburn there and Carolina versus Auburn is the first tip there in Casey, I'll take Carolina to win. I'm gonna take it to cover. And here's why you're right. This could be a lot of fun. But will it will it be such a fast paced game that an Auburn team that thrives on two things two things turning you over and shooting a making a lot of threes. If it gets away from them, you tell me UNC wins this like ninety four to seventy seven I would buy it hoping to get that would love to have frankly as many entertaining awesome games as possible because that makes just for a more enjoyable tournament. Like, give me all these with one possession outcomes for sure, but I think there is a distinct chance that could happen with Auburn Auburn played well as of late, but it lacked even to notable resume winds up until mid to late February. Now, it's turned it on creditor Bruce Pearl for this team clicking and figuring something out. He he wants sure we'll be entertaining as ever to watch on the sidelines there. But but I will take UNC to win probably pull away here. It's weird because I'm looking at these one looking at these once he'd matchups in the Sweet Sixteen GP and man like. I hate saying that, but I feel like Duke is the most fertile to lose Virginia's the least vulnerable. But I don't think I don't think UNC is that vulnerable and that far behind Virginia. Well to your point about Auburn taking a lot of threes and making a lot of threes to put some numbers on it. Fifty half of auburn's. Phil goal temps are three pointers like half. If they if they take let's just see what they did in their last game. They. Played Kansas feel like I should play the jeopardy music right now. Dum dum dum. So they took a sixty one shots in the game and thirty of them with reporters. All right. So like half they're shot. They're going to come from beyond the arc and they make thirty eight point two percent of those three point two tenths. So I mean, if they're gonna knock, you know, if they're gonna forty percent of thirty three point attempts. That's that's tough for almost anybody. That is how you can get upset by an inferior team is if that inferior team is going to put up thirty three pointers and make a good percentage of them. And Auburn doesn't have to be. Much different than it. Normally is to really hurt you from that three point line. That's a scary thing to me if I'm ROY Williams is that I. You know, it's one thing if you just know we can line up just beat these guys. But if these guys are gonna take thirty three's and make thirteen of them fourteen of them. That's I don't care how I don't care who you are you go find yourself in a tough situation. Yep. And the you're an Auburn fan look for some hope hope that Kobe whites just turns in turns in a vintage freshman game. And not in a good way. He can be prone to some turnovers can't be prone to some some great shots, but some less than desirable shots. So you gotta hope for that. And you gotta hope Nazir little who is averaged nineteen and a half points through the first tournament games and look fantastic that he goes back to looking like December two little so root for the freshman to to really revert. If you're an Auburn fan, and you're gonna have a shot, if they don't then I just I'm finding it hard to believe how are will pull this off North Carolina has like a lot of the things you need to to be a national champ. Champion high level coach ROY Williams is a hall of Famer already. They they've got good roster balance. You know, they got seniors that matter, but also one in done freshman, and perhaps people weren't talking about Kobe white that way in November. But he has turned himself into a one and done freshman I from pick if he wants to be that. And now they're starting to get some consistent stuff from Nassir little who coming into the season was a consensus top five pick. So you got multiple NBA players, maybe three MBA players, maybe more. But you've got multiple NBA players good roster balance and a hall of fame coach. I mean, that's what a national championship team looks like right? Yeah. And. They. No one is sleeping on UNC. I think that that talking point got old about a month ago. But I think we're about at the point where we can start discussing like how good this team is versus MMA Roy's best, we're almost there. Got to win some more games to a final four, but to fund team to watch it really like to move get up and down as well. As almost any team he's ever had and they're enjoyable almost. No matter the opponent, they play and it's hard to to kind of reconcile the fact that this team was the same team that that gave ROY Williams. It's worse loss on its home floor and Chapel Hill ever when it got dropped by Luevano huge way early season. But they've they've course corrected and we both think they're moving on. We both got North Carolina moving on. I've got North Carolina covering the five points in the late game at the sprint center. In Kansas City. It's gonna tip off at nine fifty nine eastern on TBS. It is the second seat at Kentucky. Wildcats third-seeded Houston Cougars. As of this moment, we still don't know PJ Washington. Is going to play John Calipari said on Monday that the plan was to have the hard cast removed from the foot today. I'm honestly unsure if that happened as as right now as we're recording. But. I guess just bottom line at this way. Hell often people been a hard cast on Tuesday and play the game on Friday. John impossible. I guess it's not I bet. It's rare. Yeah. I agree. I have not expecting him to play. Maybe he does maybe that extra day this last of the night lasted the Sweet Sixteen. Maybe there's precious extra hours wind up making a difference. They I think they're going to need them. I'm taking Houston perish. I got him winning straight up. Yep. That's right store freight up for Houston. Okay. Yeah. That's right. That's right. I had in my man. This is the pick ahead when we had our bracket pick extravaganza show. So I will take Kelvin Sampson to move along here like Houston's attacking guards. I think that will make a significant difference in this game. And I'm making this pick under the assumption. PJ Washington will not play in this game. If he is available. Well, maybe changed something I guess, but I had I had Houston over Wofford thinking Wofford would get through this week sixteen. Nope. Didn't make that one. Not quite just a little bit shy. So giving Houston to move along and doing so as we review our picture noticed that I do not have all ones and twos. And sit on the previous podcast did once in twos. That will be a first in modern NCAA tournament history. I think Kentucky Cain win the game without PJ Washington. But I'm obviously not confident in that. And I do think they're probably going to be without PJ washing. Or they're going to be with very limited PG wash keep in mind. Even if he gets the cast off today and he's ready to play clear to play on Friday. He isn't running two weeks. He's been on a basketball court in two weeks. What kind of game shape could he possibly be in? It's not like you just fell apart like he slept for three months, but. Your heart cast on Tuesday. You haven't moved in two weeks run in two weeks. And now you're going to step into a Sweet Sixteen game against a Houston team. That is damn near impossible score on. I mean, the percentage on some of their stuff is outlandish. They got. They hold opponents to twenty seven point eight percent three point shooting that ranks number one in the country and inside the art they hold opponents to forty two point seven percent that ranks fifth in the country. They're top-five defensive two point and three point field goal percentage. I mean, you can score on the everything is difficult against Houston. And as I'm talking through this. I don't know why I'm trying to take short handed Kentucky team. But but I've got to stick. Here's what happens I stick with my bracket because my bracket is held up pretty well. So far, I got fourteen of the Sweet Sixteen teams some just going to stick with the bracket. But. Houston, plus three would be hard to pass on what? Yeah. I will not pass on it. So straight up versus spread Cougars h down h down takeover here. We go. One thing. I did notice wrote a column today about the chalky -ness of this Sweet Sixteen and in the largest point. I wanted to make is something that I said on the podcast, I believe, which is that the teams that are the one seeds in the two seats. So do Carolina Virginia, Gonzaga, Tennessee, Kentucky, Michigan. Michigan state. It felt like to me at some point in the season the best eight or nine teams in the country, and they were on that list sort of separated themselves from the rest of the country. And so I went back to February first and just looked at the top twenty five and one on February first and sure enough I had all the one seed in the two seats in the top nine of the top twenty five and one the only thing that kept them from being in the top top eight was I had an avowed at eight and I think Michigan at nine at that point. But one of those schools was like nine instead of eight but still they were in the top nine on February first, and so they establish themselves in late January early February as the best. Teams in the country. And then they maintained that level of success through selection Sunday, that's how they got a one seat or two seat. And so then I was like, okay. Well, I wonder so this held up pretty good based on the February first top twenty five and one I wonder how held up since last June when I had the top twenty five and one five months before the start of the season, and you help me with this. So like, I'm not trying to take credit for anything. Because really I don't think it's evidence of anything other than the teams that were supposed to be good actually have been good. But this did surprise me. Thirteen of the Sweet Sixteen teams were in the top twenty one of the top twenty five in one last June. Try and guess the three that weren't I have not read your column yet. Okay. Yeah. Guess trivia time, boom. Definitely houston. Definitely houston. You know, what you sold on Texas texts. They gotta be one definitely Texas. Thirteen sixteen. That's really well done. You know what? And we talked about on the podcast. Gotta be Purdue. Right is produced boom. It is Houston, Texas tech Purdue. And what are they all have in common? They were good to you hate that lost a bunch of stuff Purdue loss. Four starters. Texas Tech lost five of their top six. Houston lost its best player, and yet they all were awesome again of exceeding expectations. And it's why frankly if you were putting together national coach of the year list right now, those three guys would probably be your leaders painter crispier d- and Kelvin Sampson in some order. And so yeah, the other thirteen schools that are in the Sweet Sixteen were in the top twenty one of the top twenty five and one five months before the season. Even got started. The only three exceptions were produced takes in Houston. So what that means isn't that? Like, I'm I'm amazing. Although if you wanna put that in the comments over IT your. Your fill free. I won't believe it or report a concern about it. It just means that a next time. Somebody tries to tell you preseason rankings are meaningless slap them in their face because they're not they're actually a pretty good indicator. Usually of what is to come the teams that are supposed to be good usually are and in this season. It's almost without exception. The teams that were supposed to be great. This season have mostly been great this season. In fact, the one seeds I all head in the top eight. And thirteen Sweet Sixteen I had in the top twenty top twenty one. So I appreciate the teams for holding up there into the bargain because otherwise it make the preseason rankings look silly. And I don't want that. I don't need that in my life. Don't need it. We're also we wrap up here. GP? We are. We are encroaching upon. Way too early top twenty five and one time lines here. So it's time to start shutting up here because that's I already started working on it, usually I'm so such big procrastinator that I really don't even start working on it until the Sunday of the final four and then it's done by Monday night. But it stresses me out every year. And so what I decided couple weeks ago is just to try to start. Pulteney pulled teams a day. Just when you think about it. And I've basically got like fifteen teams already done. And I I don't wanna ruin it. But do you realize that you're going to return? It's entire roster. Michigan state Michigan. Michigan. Oh, I do. Now. Like like to see the tournament that could go to a final four and then return everybody because they have no like Charles Matthews is listed as a senior. But he has a year of eligibility left. So they have no players exhausting their their their eligibility. And no obvious first round draft picks that just have to go Charles Mathews might go just because he just might go. But Michigan like as I'm going through these things you start looking at it. Michigan could return everybody from a very good team, which would make them at least a candidate to be number one in the country. Well, we'll have a podcast addressing all that. Once the season's over. But I believe this pot is over. Hey, shouts to the listeners. Thank you for subscribing and rating, and hey, you get podcasts on back to back days. Now, as you mentioned he goes back to NYC on Wednesday. I have not finished packing, and I have to leave my house at like six thirty six fifteen AM. So as soon as this podcast, I got to do that and try and get some rest here. So we'll podcast again. Do we want to figure this out right here for our listeners? I figure it probably makes sense to have the Sweet Sixteen wrapped. So if we want to do it say early Saturday or hey, if you wanted to say the Thursday games play out and do our last and third one of the week before the Friday games. I'm good either way. This is your call. My man, I think probably Friday night, depending on how late that night will be because you will not have games on Friday night while you I will not have games. And I don't know where I will be. I mean, I know what city I'll be in. I just don't know where I'll be be out drinking with your friends did not say that. I honestly don't think that I will even be drinking. I do think that I will be out with people. We will we watching the game somewhere in that second game Paris that Houston Kentucky game could easily end at like twelve twenty in the morning. So I mean, we could do a late night podcast. I'm not opposed to it. If you if you want to get it done because you won't even get out of studio until late anyway. So maybe we try and pull that off. Maybe late Friday if not late Friday early Saturday. So just subscribe that way it'll come right into your phone. You won't have to keep checking or tweeting us and asking where it's at it'll come right in your phone. You'll have it as soon as possible you can do that via apple podcast. Shouts Devon Doty to just South Carolina shells, Detari MFN Teagle the legend in just a Lorna. We'll talk to you again after the Sweet Sixteen is complete Tillman take care.

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05/01: The federal trial has been worse for Arizona than maybe everyone was expecting

"Scary Parrott's Wednesday may first two thousand nineteen welcome back to the CBS sports. I on college basketball podcast, what would be sometimes discuss Campbell fighting and leaked lack Matt norlander here with me big developments in federal court earlier today involving AirAsia hit coach Jamila we're gonna get to that soon. But no, I let me start with this. I think everybody who cares about college basketball. And who would be listening to a college basketball podcast is very aware that there is a federal trial happening in lower Manhattan. They're reading tweets from you or damn wet or Jefferson or Adams, the gory or Nicole are back or anybody else about you know, what just was played in court via a wiretap what was played in court with a secretly recorded video. This guy testified to this. This guy testified to that. I think people understand what's happening. I'm not even the casual or even like the hardcore college. Football fan exactly understands this. What is the government trying to prove that Christian dockings and moral code did? And what is their defense? They're charged with bribery. What is what is it that the government's trying to prove? And what is the defense? They're putting up. Can you explain that for listeners who might just be unaware to the government is trying to prove intent to commit bribery, and by Merle code and Christian doctrines now, those charges although on a very basic level are the same co-defendants in the same trial facing the same charges the stuff that is pinned against dockings versus the stuff that is pinned against code varies. And if we get to a point where the jury comes back with verdicts, and it finds Dawkins guilty and code not guilty. That would not surprise me. I think code has a stronger case in this trial, then dock and stuff just because so much more of the evidence that has been put in relates to dock ins, and you even have. Cooperating witnesses with a government one of them Mooney shoot saying I only met moral code once in this whole deal in Manucher proved to be a very important witness for the government in this case. But the government is trying to charge dockings and code with paying college basketball coaches, thousands of dollars in bribes in order to steer players to dock ins, his fledgling business. Living out your dreams Inc. Lloyd Inc for short and in doing so doing so with thousands and thousands tens of thousands of dollars doing so across state lines, which makes it a federal crime. That's about as simply as I can boil it down to it's not that dock ins was trying to pay college players specifically that he was trying to pay established professionals in their field to take money that they were not allowed to be taking and pin the cases against them. Because of that this is different from the first trial where the government's case was separate and to be. The defense wanted these two trials to be one. But the government for reasons that if you're sitting in the courtroom clearly obvious because the college coaches, how could you possibly defraud these guys when they're having these conversations caught him wiretap, you could have never had this under one umbrella. I think the government would have had a much harder time winning in the first case if all the stuff from that case was locked into this one. But the first case is more about defrauding universities. And we've talked about that on the podcast. Plenty would a farce that was but the government and the way that that the table was tilted toward it in that case was able to convince a jury this one I still think is leaning toward the prosecution in the case, I think they've got the advantage there. But I think on a more tangible and easy to understand level. The jury both seeing heavy come against doc and to a lesser extent code, but still code on the less and understanding why these would be clearly bribery crimes, but also with dockings having gone on the stand Wednesday, and I was not able to be in court on Wednesday. I will be there Thursday when he faces cross examination from the prosecution biolo- counts. Doc was able to humanize his position in such a way that according to the report and the writers that were on seeing there. The jury found understandable, if not at at certain times, downright funny, Dan, what's on his piece mentions that on multiple occasions Dawkins and kind of explaining the ins and outs of amateurism and rules are put in place now college athletics works. It's outdated and was actually able to to endorse in the entire courtroom into laughter over some of the folly of all the stuff. So that's a somewhat quay trying to explain the basics around this case. But obviously it is trial. These are lawyers involved in it. It has branched off in about five dozen different ways in the Dan Wetzel column that you reference Dan in the. You know in the process of just telling Christian dock and story on the stand from the day says that he is still likely to be found guilty. Do you believe that as well? I believe it's more likely than not I will take what I have seen perished happen plot in the courtroom. Absolutely. I don't know. But I will say this. I was not able to be because other realize stuff air, and my wife has a job as well. I was not able to dip down into Manhattan today. So I don't have the perspective of having sat in that courtroom hurt. Dockings testimony. See how it played with the jury and the fact that. Doc is taking the stand was dismissed by by some thinking because a lot of times you won't have defendant. Take the stand in a case like this against a federal prosecutors, it often does not happen. But I think at one it stands to. How late in the game. It is. And how big the deficit is to just you know, abuse a too easy metaphor there for doctors to do this. But also, maybe just maybe him explaining what was happening there him explaining, and I don't know how much we're gonna set this up GP, but him explaining the fact that all this money was coming from the government. And it was being induced by this undercover agent whose alias was Jeff diangelo, and Jeff diangelo saying you're gonna take the money that I'm gonna give you and you're gonna pay the coaches with it and sure enough that did have happen to happen, in some cases, not all cases and dockings even put up some reasonable explanations for why that didn't happen. So I think there is a chance that jury might see Christian dachshunds explaining the realities of what he was doing the unfair model that set up by the AA and why what was happening was happening. And he was not the only one I think there is a chance that they could get not guilty verdicts. But I do think is more likely than not that he will. I wouldn't say it's ninety five percent at this point. I don't even know what kind of percentage I'd put on. But as of right now, I think that's that's that's the case. And it will probably even more likely the case when he faces cross examination on Thursday that has the potential to be very riveting because the government obviously has been working this case for a year and a half, and it will come very prepared. No matter what kind of prep dock and says with his attorney Steve haynie heading into Thursday. He is going to be in the crosshairs. And I think it will be riveting cross examination to your point about doc is one of the things. He's testified to today. Was that listen, I didn't wanna pay the coaches. It was just I was doing what this guy told me to do with the money. I even tried to explain to him. This is a waste of money. You're wasting your money. You're just giving money to people who aren't actually going to be able to do the things you will. We want them to do. But he insisted this is my money. This is what I want to do with it. So in some cases, that's what I did. I again, I don't know how that registers with the jury, but I thought Christian Dawkins did actually have a decent explanation for why he was doing what he's accused of doing. It wasn't what he wanted to do thought was smart. In fact, he said I thought it was dumb. But it was this is what this guy wanted to do. And he was the one with all the money. So obviously cross examination scheduled for Thursday. The case will get in the jury's hands at some point. And and then we'll be done with this federal trial stuff. At least in in terms of this case, let's move onto the big development from today. And that was the audio of a wiretap conversation between book Richardson's, the former Arizona associate head coach. And Christian dock ins in which book Richardson tells Christian dock ins that Arad Sonal head coach Sean Miller bought the Andrea Eytan and with paying him ten thousand dollars per month. This is then followed up by Christian ins. Saying that. Sean Miller also took care of Raleigh Aachen's and in his people. And so what you have here is no longer just a wanna be agent slash runner slash hustler accusing shown Miller of level one rules violations. Now, you have a close friend of Shawn Miller, a colleague of Shawn Miller show. Miller's associate head coach somebody who worked with Shaun. I Xavier and airs ONA that's a bit of a game changer. Don't you think? Or if you don't tell me why I do think that it can be something of a game changer only because there's this more attached to all of this now with with Miller and book and book talking about it with dock ins, I will start with the obligatory. There is still no evidence. There is no proof that Shawn Miller has ever paid de'andre eight, and there is no proof that Shawn Miller ever paid Raleigh Elkins Alonzo trees name was attached this earlier in the trial as well. But the facts of all of this are Shawn Miller and book Richardson, work tha. Gather for a decade, plus dockets caught on on at one point. I think I mentioned this on last week's podcast even referring to the fact that they were in a bad marriage. Some of the wiretaps that were played GP on Wednesday in court even got to to a little bit of that as Dawkins in Richardson are discussing the eight and stuff in general with Richardson, not having I guess, I don't know if sympathies the right word, but as they're talking about how Sean is allegedly in deep paying ten thousand dollar payments to Aden. And a lot to Raleigh all kinds or his representatives. Well, again, this is what Richardson and dock ins are talking about on the wiretap. I think it is. I think I think it does hurt the Shawn Miller case in general, and there's there's been more a quick this respond. Kind of looping. We talked about to start this podcast in in this in general. The reason why this stuff even comes up is because on June twentieth. Two thousand seventeen that is the day that book Richardson's goes to the Conrad hotel in New York City. He sits down with undercover agents sued and mardi blazer. And in that meeting Richardson is completely selling himself in his services parish. I would need probably fifteen minutes, or so I'm not going to do on this podcast to to, you know, talk about all the stuff that Richardson says in that meeting about how he operates he flagrantly. You know is he is understanding of the fact that what they're talking about needs to stay in the room. You gotta keep it private cetera et cetera. All that right bellator that day Mooney sued who at that. Like, he's not like mardi blazer. He is joining this venture. And doesn't realize that this is all being caught on video and wiretaps and all this he calls Kristin Dawkins, and they have a phone call on that phone call this gets to what talking testified to today don-. This. Jeff diangelo dude is weird. Why does he wanna meet these kids at Zona? Does. He not understand how this works. Sean Miller, I won't point Christian doctrines Shawn Miller invited me to come out to resolve. And they're talking about the recruitment of Giovan quinary at that point. Because he is going to have a visit down the way. I can't bring a guy like Jeff de ngelo to the university of Arizona. And then Shawn Miller is going to be like what the hell is this guy doing here, which by the way dockings to saying is completely accurate? So they're talking. They're making fun of Jeff DeAngelis. Like, why does this dude even care why given all this money? Why does he wanna be with kids? What the hell is gonna talk with kids about. And so then soon dock and start talking about. Okay. You know, if if you just go back and say, listen, you can maybe meet the kid after like, you know, he's in our system, and we know that he's going to be coming aboard the Loyd inconsiderate cetera. Right. And so then this is what suit says, he I think that's what clearly has to be stated to Jeff because maybe what you do is our call Jeff back and say, hey, look, I spoke with book and exactly say that book says, look, let's get this kid sign, then he's happy to introduce Jeff to the kid either Zona while they're traveling somewhere and dock and says, yeah, okay. All right. And then suit says. This way, it's clean. Right. This way. It buys us time it let's get the money, and then we'll deal with the other stupid shit. He'll forget about it. Anyway, dock and says, okay because I want you to get this kid. He's referring to early. And then he says and I wanna sign the big kid as well. And that's when the conversation shift to I think, we're gonna get the number one picks next year. I think we're gonna get that big kid clearly referring to Andrea eight. And that's when doc and says, it's going to be more money than what what book said, I mean, because I talked to Sean, Sean, the one that front of that deal. So it's going to be some money. But I mean will figure it out that Lynn loose back to what Richardson doctors are talking about in the tape that was played two day, which just you know, it further implicates, but does not prove anything that Shawn Miller was involved in payments to to de'andre Eytan and Raleigh Auken's GP. I'll let you respond to me. But I do feel obligated tag this with the fact that obviously AirAsia investigated all this all ready. It is comfortable with Shawn Miller still running it's program. Presumably it is where of this conversation, presumably, maybe not, but. But but obviously Wednesday was not a good day for over Shawn. Miller. I guess they could be aware of this conversation before today. But I don't know how you could listen to your associate head coach tell somebody when he didn't know he was being recorded that your head coach bought the Andrea Eytan in his paying ten thousand dollars a month. And not in not just be like, I don't I don't understand how if you're running a university you could be privy to. That fact, not the fact that book richton telling the truth, I mean Bush and could've been lying. Not nobody's been able to present a compelling argument to why book Richardson would have been lying about this specific thing at that specific time, but whatever, but I don't know if you run a university, you could you know, that book Richardson was talking like that about Shawn Miller and think that that's okay. Like the truth is right now. Arizona's going to get hammered by the AA whether shell millers. Coach or not because you can't have this. You cannot have this. I mean what we what we now. I mean think about this for a second at the time that all of this stuff was okay. Mark Phelps has been fired book Richardson's, obviously been fired Joe Pasternak who was also on staff in recent years. There've been allegations made against him whether they're true or not I can't speak to that. But there's been guest indirectly referenced in this trial, perish indirectly. But he has been referenced. Right. So like everybody working for Sean Miller has been at least have been the target of allegations beyond that you have book Richardson on tape it meeting his own insead of violations that he was taking care of somebody related to Raleigh Aachen's at. I believe the rate of like two thousand dollars a month. So what you now have is a associate head coach can. Can you know in in criminal himself in a way that unless the blaze just totally going to ignore it going to lead to Raleigh Aachen's being retro actively road? Ineligible. Means you start to vacate all sorts of stuff and. And and who knows in terms of future probation scholarship cuts. Postseason bans who knows everything? I just said is already going to get you in trouble. Like, there's no way book ridge can be on tape. It missing that he was taking care of family member. And that not come back to get AirAsia again. It's very it's one thing to to say all the only thing you got so far as Christian doctrines talking wild. Like the point. I've made before is. Yeah, you could say that Christian has credibility problems. That's fine. But if he's really just making things up why is he seemingly only making things up about Shawn Miller. Like, why didn't he also make things up about Rick Pitino? Also make things up about Tom Izzo or also make things up about I don't know if he's really just trying to inflate his relevance in the sport make things up about John Kelly Perine, ROY Williams, Mike like these very serious allegations where it is Christian doc and saying I talked to a head coach in. The head coach told me ABC and the head coach saying all sorts of wild stuff. He should be saying on the phone. That is best. I know limited to Shawn Miller. It's unique to show Miller to me that that makes it believable. But whatever if you're a dumb Arizona fan, and you don't wanna believe it. It's fine. But now you've got an associate head coach who work with Sean Miller. I save your nowadays. Zona also calling Shawn Miller cheater, I don't know how you can hear that. And not think that Shawn Miller is cheater Pete them. It was in the courtroom today from Yahoo sports, and he wrote a column in that column. He wrote the senate's seemingly at this point, the only collegiate board of regents who could look at all of this evidence, and Sean Miller dramatic denial about paying players had a seat of truth would be one that consist of the Easter bunny to fairy and Santa Claus. And I really do think that that's about right? There is no scenario where I don't know that they'll be able to prove show Miller did these things there's no scenario. Oh, you'll be able to ever where you'll ever be able to convince a reasonable person slash somebody. Who's not an Arizona fan that show. Miller wasn't cheating like crazy, and I suppose Shawn's line like till the end will just be okay. This stuff might have been going on in my program. But I had nothing to do with it. And I didn't know it was going on which by the way is not going to be a good excuse for the NC double A in terms of future. Sanctions because you're you are responsible for your staff. But I did think this was interesting and worth pointing out. How hard is it to insist you didn't know book Richardson was dirty buying players when we'll wait new book Richardson was dirty by players because I thought that was an interesting thing that came out of either yesterday's testimony or the day before. Yeah. Book Richardson on a tape and he's explaining that. We'll wait whose crew denies read at the time that the school's recruiting rate at that point. Okay. Arizona recruit Nausori will according to book Richardson will Wade wants to hire book to help him close the deal with Nausori. And he says I got three hundred thousand dollars for him, which by the way. The wording of that actually jibes pretty well. With the way, I've heard if we'll wait was actually doing these things he might have been doing these things because you know, when you start asking coaches or other people in the industry. Okay. If this was going down to LSU, how do you think it was going down, and they'd be like, well, he would get money from booster? So there'd be no money connected to him. No paper trail connected to him. And then he could just take the money and transition it straight to whoever needed transition to. So it's it's a limited number of witnesses. It's we'll handling himself. It's cash, and it's not cash coming from any sort of count connected to him. It's cash coming from an a booster that the instability. Probably wouldn't even know to look at that probably how this get done. And so when will says I got three hundred thousand dollars for him. What that implies to me is I've got somebody willing to give me three hundred thousand dollars to get this deal done. On. Can you help me get this done and book again, according to book jokes like I will give me half of that. And get this thing done. I'll make sure goes to LSU. Ha ha ha ha this is my point. Do you know how? Brazen. You have to be to trust somebody who doesn't work for you who works for a university recruiting against you to trust them with that information, assuming that book is telling the truth that this conversation actually happened. You you you would never let somebody else in your interest industry. No, you get down like that. Or you're trying to get down like that. Unless what unless you know, they get down like that too. My point is this. We'll wait in bed Rouge new book ribs and getting down like that it yet show Miller is going to try to pretend he didn't bird's. Feather and all that real quick on the Woolworth stuff. First of all, I don't think I believe all this three hundred thousand dollars for Nasreen is absurd. I don't know if they're five football players in the football craze conference that is the SEC that would command that kind of price tag in two thousand eighteen twenty seventeen whatever like, I I actually don't believe if it happened. That's that's amazing. I do not believe that three hundred thousand dollars was given to people connected to redeploy at LSU that number is ridiculous. You're telling me as we got three hundred thousand Indiana eight allegedly only got one hundred thousand and the difference between those players was even though Nasreen was a fine. Very good prospect probably to get drafted great kid from all I can tell they in the same league whatsoever. So I've got issues with that too. I the point you're making is completely on the right track here, but the idea of that will Wade, and this, and this is what Richardson is saying it might be bluster. It might be a half truth. But the idea that at at a recruiting event will way would approach book Richardson with this kind of information. Peas in a pod bird's. Feather all that stuff. Whatever you're going to do this with another coach outside and then we'll wait. Apparently, according to book Richardson offers book a job to make sure that they can get the Nasreen thing to happen book Richardson, says if you give me half that if you give me a hundred and fifty thousand dollars, I'll make sure that he goes to you. And we won't even d- what the guy coming to zone. The entire situation was surreal to listen play out that wiretap play out in court. And by the way, was the only time will Wade's name actually came up so far in this trial. I would guess it will be the only time that his name will come up unless for some reason doc wants to veer into that upon cross. I don't think he will. But that the the wait stuff in general. The the Miller stuff wasn't good. But this is another separate player that has been tied to wait. In terms of paying them to go LSU, by the way, among many that have declared for the NBA and his pair set on a couple podcast back will not be returning to play college basketball. You do not think Nausori got three hundred thousand dollars to play on one hand. It's it's obviously seems excessive on the other hand. I I don't know that there's some scale that everybody references when they're buying basketball players. I I didn't I didn't think Brian Bowlin was worth one hundred thousand dollars valley. Valid valid point. That's the one that shocked me like I'd rather have Nausori than Brian Bowen. And so I guess you can perhaps reasonably so say, there's just no way. Now regard three hundred thousand dollars if we're operating under the assumption. Deandre Eytan only got one hundred thousand but he'll learn fifteen shacks to hold on. We have a by the way, we have another. We shout to Rodney. Okay. Shouts to Rodney the cousin of Raleigh Elkins who actually took a meeting with with minutiae mini sued dockings and under the female undercover agent whose alias was Jill Bailey. So we have another. Acquaintance lash family member of an zone player that has been injected this. So I just wanted to make sure on this podcast a proper shout to Rodney forgetting involved in all of this. You done you done did. Well, here man. So. I don't think the Andrea eight Brian Bowen aren't the same caliber guy. But they reportedly got the same amount of money. Although I will say I talked to somebody who I don't know around the stuff and the point he made and this was several months ago. But this guy said, I don't know shown Miller is the one that actually did the eight and deal. But I bet you be Andrea and got more money than people realize. So who knows right? Yeah. But about my larger point is I don't know that there's a scale like, hey, if you're topped in prospect, you're in this range top twenty prospect, you're in this rant like deals just get done. However, they get done, but I can acknowledge. Yes, it seems like an excessive amount of money. I would say this. If you wanna say that's book, exaggerating the numbers. Willing to listen to that chore, people exaggerate numbers all the time when telling stories, but keep in mind, the timing of this conversation. This is way before we know about Jonty smart conversation on a wiretap strong as offer. I don't think it's a coincidence that book riches Intel in the story about we'll wait. I don't think he made the story up. I think that he told the story about will. Because this is precisely the type of thing will was dealing, and I just thought it was hilarious. We've got these two programs that more so than any other seem to have coaches on staff head coaches who are accused of buying players like you can say Nike was doing this for. Duke, and that Adidas was doing this for Louisville in Kansas underarm was doing this for Maryland. But the two places where we have real allegations against the head coach the head coach is doing these deals. It's LSU and AirAsia and yesterday in court those schools are actually tied together with the associate head coach at one place telly describing a story about the head coach at the other place, and they're discussing cheating buying an attempt to buy read. I thought that was and just a few quickies here in Richardson, and I'll wrap it by actually reading the transcript of what was it on the call, and you can take parish. But. If the general I don't think that these videos are ever going to be out for general public consumption here. But I mean book is he he is or was damn good at what he did. Funny. Self deprecating. Great seller, you can easily see why he was so good at doing what even beyond like throwing like, whatever. Like, the money's just just in terms of who he was how he was able to talk to people book Richardson was good at his job and very convincing. And it is no wonder why he took the money was a prime candidate to do. So. And he also by the way said when I'm going against Mississippi Staley through Mississippi State and out of aware the SEC accuses these specific with schools, but twenty thirty forty Graham when it comes to involving recruiting players, they're like there was a lot of stuff. Again, this case we can't get to it on this podcast. There's just random stuff caught on wiretaps in these video conversations were just random schools or conferences just lobbed out there, and it's all just like. It's just drive by. It's just okay. But we're we're kind of trying to get to a bigger point there in the Richardson stuff, I thought to be to be pretty compelling overall going back to what we talked at the top. Here's what actually the one of the transcripts of the calls that was picked up and played Wednesday in court and as a reminder. Although the defense wanted to have Miller and wait on the stand. And the reason why we did not hear any calls with will. Wade and Shawn Miller played in court, and we will not the prosecution has rested here the judge at garl- romo's. Who's been a great judge in this case, he isn't he's deem that to be irrelevant to the to the matters at hand, we won't get them. This is going to be the closest that we will get here was what was played by the prosecution not the defense in doing. So the prosecution obviously doesn't Bill favors as they're talking about docking Richardson talking about trying to get aid into maybe link up with dachshunds business in the way that Richardson is already said you're going to get Rawlins. That's a fact he says that on a video wiretap dock and says we'll see how Sean well. I said Richardson says Shaun's got to get the bleep out of the way, and let us work in the dock and says we'll see how Sean plays it out. And Richard says, you know, what he bought per month referring to Aden in dock and says, what do you do and rich and said, I told you ten now. Common. Logic would indicate that would be ten thousand dollars there. Given the context of all these other conversations and the and says he's putting up some real money for them expletives. He told me he's getting killed and the Richardson that that's his fault with the referring to there is dockings alleging that Miller had already talked to him about money payments, and that it's you know, from a from pockets the important, it's actually hurting him. So that's that's the big thing that was involved in the stuff that was playing, and let me make this point in just that we're clear here that is Christian doctrines telling book Richardson, Sean told me he's getting killed right? Yes. Okay. Here's another just like just just use common sense. If because that's what people say, they're like, hey, Arizona fans when I say, that's what people say I just being naive slash silly AirAsia fans. If they're like, Chris doc is just making stuff up. He didn't really talk show Miller about these things if you weren't really having conversations with Shawn Miller, would you be telling associate coach that you were having coaches conversation with Shawn Miller like wouldn't that be something very easy for book Richardson defined outs? Not true. Yeah. Yeah. But doc insane man. Yeah. When I talked to, Sean if that's not they don't really have that relationship. Book would just be like you were talking to Sean or or I think dockings wouldn't even wouldn't even use that phrase. You might be able to tell me. Yeah. GP I was talking to show milk because how do I know if you talking to show Miller, but like the associate coach at I don't think you tell that light to him if it's a lie, which is why I don't think it's a lie. I really do think he was talking to Sean Miller. And I think they were really having these conversations I find Christian darkens as it relates to this stuff believable. I find him believable at sometimes I find all parties involved in this thing. Other times you've got guys as they're talking about these prospects. Bag. Lease name gets brought into this stuff. And how he's the best player since LeBron James like a lot of this stuff. I is Greece conversation. I think at the essence of it a lot of it is based in reality or at least acknowledgement of situation as people understand it. And it's also why I wrote on Monday, I think it was I've lost track of the days. Arizona will stick with Shawn. Miller he could be coaching at the start of next season. Because again, we have to acknowledge that the school and to a certain level. The instable has poked around on some of the stuff if not the FBI, by the way, of course. And if Miller was involved in this he would be defendant in the case to the extent that book Richardson, wasn't has pleaded guilty and all this. So there has been some diligence if not entire due diligence done on that. But you cannot convince me that the instable a on whatever time line, it's working on. I don't know what time line is working. I don't know if it hopes to get this done by October. Or if it doesn't think it's not going to get until a year from the day. We're recording this podcast much of this is going to be laid at the feet of Shawn Miller. I just don't see how it won't. You have a convicted felon on your staff. The evidence is overwhelming. The incidentally, will obviously use this evidence to I don't know if it's going to try. Worsened the situation for Richard. He's gonna get show 'cause like ten year twenty year. I don't even know, I don't know. From from a formality standpoint. I think all these assistant coaches are going to be put under. Show causes that are potentially precedent setting. And then from that. If you're the the committee on fractions of the people in charge of this stuff. There's just no way. I don't see a significant punishment coming for Miller here. Even if you did not know, even if you did not know, and you can provide every single. Reason that prevents proof or evidence of that ever coming to be when you are involved when it comes to this level and this federal trial, and there's this much bad publicity. And there's all the stuff that's put against Richardson. Even if there is going to keep you. I think he's gonna face his suspension and other heavy stuff. I don't know how long the suspension will be. But. If the fans want to keep Shawn Miller around he's a really really damn good college basketball coach some of the stuff that's been put up against him. Maybe it's not true, maybe exaggerated. But whatever the stuff that has been proven is already a horrible look for Arizona. I don't know when it's coming. But you can't you can't convince me the Zona maybe more than any other program. And maybe there will be others that hit get Justice hard Alice. You name it any of the other schools, at assistance that were charging this case significant sanctions are inevitable. Just don't know when it's gonna happen. Well, even if Shawn Miller read this yesterday, I think on a Daily Star even Shawn Miller, they can't actually prove that he did these things they know these things happened because book Richardson's on video saying that they happen. But they can't prove that Sean did it that he had a hand in it and Sean forever. Just insist listen, you can say that I should've known, but I didn't know that's the truth. He can still face a, quote, an instable a bylaw eleven point one point one a suspension up to a year from the NC double A, if they find that his staff has commit. It'd level when violations, and it seems like actually undeniable at this point that a staff violations. Right. Nobody. That's that is a proven fact of this point. Yes. Right. So that's the thing. I mean, Arizona can do whatever it wants to do. But I don't I don't understand how you keep him at this point. Just because he you're not gonna have him at some point. He is going to face a suspension, and it could be up to a year. And you gotta think the instable a is going to you think ever. There was a place to come down hard. This would be the place to do it. So if they can give him a year that means they really might give them a year. So you wanna keep employing a head coach that a is going to have this reputation forever. Like, you don't you don't I don't think you shed this. So this this will as long as he's your coach the perception of your program. Do you really want that and be like he's gonna face a suspension at some point not to mention you're going to be dealing with the cloud of postseason bans? And the possibility of it all that is really worth all this. I mean, you say earlier that he's a very good college head coach, and I tend to agree with that. But what if we what if it's program can any more? Then how good is he what we know what they've been crazy to get these players and still been. Mostly underachieve with them never been to like, do you really want this? If you wanna. I don't know. I don't think I would if I run in the school. But if they do then just just say, you don't care just say, yeah. You know, what we don't care? This is the sport were. And we we don't care. Just don't say you actually believe your coach didn't do these things or know about these things because nobody nobody else in the country believes that at this point. All right. The next time we podcast. I know we're going to transition here. Real quick. The next time we podcast, I expect this trial to be with verdict. My prediction as where things stand right now is Christian Docklands will be found guilty and moral code will also be found guilty. But I think coda this top here is as less likely. So I don't think we're having more. So next time we talk about this. It'll probably just be whatever happens in cross I think that cross examination of Dhaka's on Thursday has the potential to be truly riveting. And we'll see where we go from there. And how long the jury takes his side this the first trial. I took the jury three days. I sense this might not take more than one day. But it's a jury you never know who's thinking what? And and with all that stuff. And then we will still have one more trial to to get to which person. And and another man who was charged in the case with all that as we wrap this one more thing, I do want to say. Because I think I like I've seen videos a book. So video is a bland Tony bland doesn't come off innocent in this at all it is very understandable. I said to Wetzel in the courtroom, I think on Mondays I can you imagine if we actually had college basketball coaches in this trial right now, like pleading not guilty and the stuff that is getting like played right now it is. It is no wonder if you actually hear the wiretaps and watch the videos, it is no wonder whatsoever. Why those guys pleaded guilty to this because the government had so much against them. The prospect of them winning when you have people on video literally accepting thousands of dollars and talking about steering players to Christian doctrines is management company. Like, it's not a shock whatsoever. Lamont Evans, the former South Carolina, Oklahoma state coach, there's plenty of stuff that hasn't really been talked about much that comes up. He does not look good in this whatsoever. Arguably probably the worst of any coach I would argue. So anyway, that's just a a bunch of other stuff. And then the agents last thing in the one we've on dock and said so in his testimony on Wednesday. There's been plenty of stuff. The general MBA agent space, and why a lot of this happened to begin with was because as Dawkins as a runner who would be in place to understand a lot of this stuff, particularly at ACM sports where his boss any Miller worked basic like any kid that has an NBA first round level future. Not any but almost any like someone's gotten to him by the time he gets to college. And he successfully according to the report there on Wednesday painted a reality with with high school and college athletics that showed how dirty it truly could be. And so the things that was doing we're not outside of outside of the norm. At all, in fact, as a runner he was doing the bidding of agents, in some cases. So that agents would not get themselves caught in the crosshairs. That's the very nature runners, do it's why NBA different agencies put kids that look young on campuses with backpacks walking around to blend in to kind of just ingratiate themselves in that kind of environment. Like the level of this stuff has gone on for decades. We are we are seeing things. And such a light and with such detail that we never had before. Yeah. It's been it's been fascinating for me to observe from distance. Obviously you've been in the courtroom, but the. It really does at least seemingly shows exactly how normal this stuff had become. I'm not sure if this changes anything going forward, you've still got a a system of amateurism that prevents people who are obviously worst a lot from accepting anything above board. So a black markets created, and you know, it's been there forever. And I imagine it forever will be, but you know. I think this is scared. Some people. At least temporarily. And so we'll we'll see where it goes from here. But like you said cross examination of Christian doctrines will be on Thursday. And then the jury will get the case at some point let's touch on a few other things before we get out of here. Crispier got a new contract at Texas Tech. 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Game has agreed to a six year contract extension with Texas Tech university at the rate of four point six million dollars per year. Corden USA today's coating database makes him the third highest paid coach in college basketball behind only Mike chefs key and John Calipari the column I wrote on this is like it's money. Well, spent because here's the truth. When you've got a great coat who's perfect for university. And you are in a power five conference the big twelve where you're going to get an excess of forty million dollars annually from your meteorites alone. When you combine that with the fact that because of amateurism, you don't have to pay the players like, I it's it's almost impossible to overpay. A great coach. And that's why I think Texas Tech is smart to do this. It doesn't mean that Chris beard will be there in six years or even in two years. But it does mean that they showed. They're perfect and great perfect for them. And great coach that they're committed to him and his program and staff like they basically told him with this gesture you might leave someday, you know, maybe the Kansas job opens. Maybe the Zona job opens, maybe Texas opens any of these jobs that might be certainly traditionally better jobs than our job. And you might leave us one day. And you know, we'll deal with that. When we have to deal with it. But you're not gonna leave us for money. And you're not gonna believe because we didn't try to do everything we could to keep you happy. I thought it was really smart by Kirby hocutt, the athlete director to be so proactive and so over the top in their attempt to make sure crispier does in Lubbock Texas for long Posner. Listen reference this signing in the future for any school that may want to get a coach or lose a coach beard. Stan. Ding right now, it might be. Bill. Simmons uses a term sometimes called apex mountain when he talks about actors and saying like, okay at this time when he when a certain actor actress did a movie was this apex mountain? They were never more of a thing within the pop culture consciousness. There were never better there carino's. It was never had a higher point this might be crispier. Apex mountain right now, it might be. But if you want to keep this guy on your right now beard is about as hot as it gets outside of the men that that defeated him in that national championship game. Tony Bennett you want to keep them on campus. Try and prevent someone next year the near year after by giving them as much money as you possibly can. I'm not saying crispier deserving of the third richest contract in college basketball. I also by the way because of the trial stuff sometimes these contract things like they can be. Not well, maybe this leading the right word like crispy getting paid. There's no doubt about it. But if you actually like truth, we looked at how the contract broke down versus say guys that are in that four to ten range, regardless. He's being getting paid handsomely. Among the best of the best. For. I kinda think this has got to be a record, by the way. There's never been a coach with such a short division one track record to get paid on this level. Even if you wanted to prorate it retroactively a decade two decades three decades ago beard is certainly earned it. And if the money is going to be using that sense because as I saw what she wrote about in tweeted about you can't send it to the players. It is the smart move there and good on him. But well, that's that is that is the kind of money where it probably will or it should make any sort of program at the major conference level that wants to consider itself top twenty five status. Well, if you want that and you really wanna go get a guy or you have a guy, then when the time comes, and you and you hit a moment. Like, this get it done you need to you're going to have to pony up here and send a message not just to other schools that may want to try and get said coach. But also to your fan base. That says we are we are absolutely committed. Here. We are not going to cheap out on our guy. So beard gets it. And now comes a just a separate level of pressure. Like once now Chris beard will be known for having made a lead eight made a title game and all that stuff. But this is also going to be a thing. Like Chris beard. He signed that super rich contract. He's the third highest paid coach in college basketball. Now, let's see what he can do next season the season after two to kind of live up to that stuff because if it goes wrong, and I don't think that it will. But if it does that's where you're getting the money. It's great and all that stuff. But that's kind of kind of be pinned up against you as many college football coach can attest to over the past twenty thirty years. Yeah. When you get a contract like this. Whether you're a coach or a player where the numbers are wild. If you are unsuccessful your contract becomes part of your story. Like in Memphis, Chandler, Parsons contract is a part of his story. It wouldn't be if he was good. But he's injured. And incapable of of of being irrelevant NBA player. I I assume you ever again. And so everybody knows exactly what he makes channel Parsons making ninety four million dollars on whenever it is ninety four ninety five ninety three. It's in that raid. His contract is part of his story. If whatever reason Texas Tech just settles back into being a bottom half big twelve program than yes. You know? It'll it'll look like Texas Tech just lost its mind. But I don't think this is the same thing as Kevin Ollie looking into a national championship. I think crispier got the goods because. You know, he's Dow had really good years with totally different rosters. He wasn't led by one player anywhere. You know wasn't. This isn't Shabazz. Napier taking him to a national championship game Jarrett culverts, very good. But Texas Tech got there because of a defense that ranked number one in defensive efficiency, I think he's got the I think in reference four, but his one year at Little Rock relative to the three years before he got there and the three years since he left. It's just crazy. They've been outside of the top two hundred Kim palm three years before Chris was at Little Rock three years since every season without exception in his one year, they want thirty games top sixty can advanced in instantly tournament by beating Purdue. So even that you don't really have to just point Texas Tech to to provide evidence that Chris beard is a special basketball coach the little rockier counts as well. And it is just as impressive as. You know, it's it's similarly impressive to any of the stuff. He's done since then and just to circle back to the way. Texas Tech was aggressive and getting this done. You just contrast it with another big twelve coach just a couple of years ago. You know, Brad under what was that, Oklahoma state? And by the way, Brad Underwood crispier both represented by the same guy. Brett just so bright Underwood's there. And clearly it looks like he's Oklahoma state's made a good higher. He's doing good things, and he was not making much money their relative to what other big twelve coaches make. I mean, he was making good money relative to what schoolteachers make. But it wasn't. You know, great big twelve head coach money. And so as the story goes, you know, Chris was Brett just was trying to talk to the Oklahoma athlete director about getting. Hey, let's go ahead and get it. He likes it. Here. You got the right guy. Let's get a deal done to make him happy. And they just kept putting it off. We'll we'll we'll talk about it later. We'll talk about later just wouldn't get anything done. Well, then what happened? Brag gets frustrated then what happens. He's got an agent who's got connections to every job opening that that is open that will open. So then Illinois is going to open Illinois, probably has no even idea that it can possibly Lur Brad Underwood from Oklahoma state after one year get a guy to move after one year from a job to another job when the jobs are comparable. But Brad was unhappy because Oklahoma state wasn't aggressive and trying to make him happy. He tells Brit. Hey, I'm I'm ready to bounce get an athletic director appreciates me, boom, bounces Illinois after one year. And I think it's reasonable to say Oklahoma state hadn't been the same since like contrast that with what Texas Tech just did they weren't gonna sit around and and and make crispier feel unappreciated or underappreciated they stepped up in his big away as you could. Possibly due in bigger ways than most people anticipated. They would and I think I think they'll benefit from it. I don't know that they'll keep them forever. But I he's not frustrated right now, he's not feeling underappreciated right now. And that's the best way you can treat a coach of his quality. I think the last not have on this is I did find it weird. I don't know that. So this happens, and then the LA times had a story about how Macron I got the job. And I read that I don't know if you chance to see that or not, but it got into like John Calipari apparently being more interested than he led on publicly. It got into the fact that Rick Barnes, apparently like agreed or didn't agree to initial terms. When UCLA's said it would pay the buyout and Barnes has publicly said otherwise than bar for more money UCLA, balked Barnes went back and said, I'll sign for the original terms. This is all the time story and their reporting with all that. But I found a a little weird that in that story. There are a lot of coach like Jay, right? They would apparently double his salary in. And he was not going to leave Villanova for UCLA, which by the way is the right decision. But beard save. No, we're in there. And I don't quite get why UCLA would not have pursued him perhaps there's a reason that I'm not privy to or aware of. But I just thought it was interesting timing with the story coming out and then beard win the contract stuff. I thought you know. Maybe they didn't it wasn't including the story. But, but I thought that to be just a little bit odd because if you were UCLA, and I know that they were you know, you had Texas roll in here until the end of the season and stuff like that. And you want to get him yet a weight, but it doesn't appear that UCLA went after him. And I'm not quite sure what that would mean, different schools have different priorities and different things. Maybe they did their diligence. And they just thought that he wasn't going to be the guy or something else or whatever. But but I thought the timing of that article and beards contract and re getting extended a Texas, Texas, maybe thinking, oh, why didn't you say try and lock them in. But regardless it's Cronin. If you haven't read that story, it's actually just a it's a good. It's a good read given the sources that the LA times will they're not they're not attributed there. But you gotta figure that they they got really clued in on how that that. Search really went on for so long. I have been critical of it. But there's even references text messages that were that were viewed by the writer who wrote the story about money people that were trying to get stuff done and updates dejected. Updates at cetera et cetera. And I thought that was pretty interesting. It was a fascinating read like the idea that they thought they should this is what's so stupid. Jay Wright is a Villanova legend a Philly guy. A future hall of Famer a two time national champion at this point in his life. Why would he leave for UCLA? Could you not say the same exact thing about John Calipari Kentucky? He didn't leave. Okay, easy. Tiger say presenting it for the listeners. Yes. You could say the same thing about John berry, and guess what did not leave? He was never leaving like damn Walken who like me as a former John Kerry beat writer like re tweeted this story and was like UCLA really thought they were getting John Calipari because they've never read anything about John cale Perry. Like, this is what he does. You just have to be smarter than that. It's exactly like recruiting. It's exactly like recruiting. I've talked to coach is about this before they go. You have to be smart enough to know who you who you can really get in not get don't think you're in there. Just because the kid will put you on a list. And if you say, hey, would you really come here? And he's like, yeah. I could see myself if you know, he really comment don't waste your time. Because ultimately, you're just wasting your time same thing here. John Calipari is never taking your job as long he's not leaving Kentucky for your job. And he certainly not doing it for comparable money, much, less less money. And yet UCLA like this associated is like sending up we really thought we had cow. What you're insane in there calling Mark view not taking your job who has already previously said, not UCLA. I thought that was weird. But yeah, I mean, we talked about. Few weeks ago on the podcast. Like, I, you know, sometimes people say, well, you know, you've got at least make the phone call. Let me go in help everybody right now if you have a job opening and care how great of a job is do not call in college. Not NBA job. Oh, instability investigation leads to bad things that Kansas Bill self. It's fire Keynes's job as open. Don't call. Mark few. He's not taking it don't call John Calipari. He's not taking it. Don't call J. Right. He's not taking it. Don't call ROY Williams. He's not taking it. Don't call Mike shoshefsky. He's not taking it. Don't call Tom Izzo. He's not taking it. Don't call. Tony bennett. He's not taking it like, you don't you don't have to make the call. It is a waste of time. So the UCLA out there actually thinking they were going to junk calbury of just hilarious to me calling J, right? Mark view is. Hilarious to me. But back to your initial point. I do know that there were conversations, but between Krispies people and UCLA at a very surface level like UCLA wondering would do this. And I was told they were told if you wanna put an offer on the table and try to blow him away, you know, like you could do that. But I think this is the one time where UCLA properly understood they just were not going to get crispier. I think I don't wanna speak for Chris. But when you look around college basketball right now, there could be some big jobs opening Arizona could open a kiss literally any day, even though it might not any day Kansas could open at some point. We don't know what this investigations going to turn up. And so I think Chris is just happy in Lubbock like let's start there. And obviously now well compensated in Lubbock. But I think he's also smart, and he knows that they if my goal is to get an eight level job from Texas Tech. I guess UCLA's one of them. But it's not the best fit for me. And there's going to be better fits that. Open up soon, perhaps. And then I can either stay in Lubbock or maybe take one of those. And I think that's probably the proper approach other words bottom line. I think UCLA was interested in crispier, or at least the idea of crispier d-, but concluded pretty quickly like maybe after one conversation that you'd really have to blow him away with money. And obviously, you're not gonna outbid Texas Tech. You know, if you're going to try to put six million on the table, then they they'd have probably gone the six million whatever they had to do. So you're not going to be able to build a big twelve school. And you know, I don't know of crispier wanted to move to Westwood like crispier is a Texas guy. I'm not saying he couldn't be great. It was what should we could be? But I I don't think he thought it was a great fit and UCLA moved on pretty quickly. That was my understanding at least, let's let's get ATL here. This has been a good conversation. But we want you wanna wrap this bad boy up. I do want to wrap this bad boy up the Mets are in zero zero game. Jacob degrom got a three hitter going. So I want to focus the rest of my night on that. We got an MBA game that is about to start between the nuggets and blazers. So shouts Devon Downey's. Yes. To Chester, South Carolina Shasta, Terry fatigue. He's alleged shouts to the home alarm. Now. I thought fifteen thousand was pretty good for you. But I think maybe you could have worked a little better deal. If you to double dip got fifteen from TJ gas Nola, maybe another twenty twenty five or so from Sean. 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