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Partnering Up, Part 2: Two Real-World Case Studies with Amy Swayze and Chris Lawrence

Real Estate Rookie

55:45 min | 10 months ago

Partnering Up, Part 2: Two Real-World Case Studies with Amy Swayze and Chris Lawrence

"This says real estate rookie show number thirty one. So, if you talk to anybody and everybody. You may come up with somebody says Oh yes, I know so and so that wants to sell this property and very go that maybe a next investments. My name is Ashley. Care and I am here with my co host belief they may hia. And we are so excited to bring you cart. Parczew partnership. Today. Absolutely super excited and we have amy and Chris Amy is a Newbie who the story is awesome. She literally bought a property went hard money gained a hundred thousand dollars in equity rented it. For Way more than she expected I mean total home run on her I deal and she talks about the ups and downs of using hard money, and then the contractor not showing up I mean, it's it's a great story. One of the best things the the show that we're doing today they talk about how they do this with a partner a lot of times we hear the story just from one side, and then there's that silent partner over there but we have Chris on today who talks about how he's the boots on the ground he. Works with the contractors and then his partner you know has the line of credit. They handled the bookkeeping do all of that so makes you guys take a lot of value from this if you are looking to do a partnership or if you're looking to grow and expand your partnership lots of great advice. But before we bring on the amazing amy and Chris, let's hear a word from our show sponsor. For today's show sponsor, I'm GONNA use Philippi is an example someone who isn't using any kind of property management software and it drives me crazy. So if you are like and you want some landlord tenant software an APP you need to check out rent ready. 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O K I e, and you guys will get their annual plan for. One dollar and you know me and flee Bela those one, those dollar stores in those five below. So go to your mobile, your manager properties from anywhere in the world at rent ready dot com that's our e and T R E D Dot Com and sign up with the code BP rookie. All caps. That's BP like bigger pockets rookie, Amy Chris Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for coming on how you guys doing. Good. Thanks. Thanks for having me. Can you guys just tell give us a little background about each of you, and then we want to jump right into partnership. So amy, why don't you go first? Okay who all I have only been investing sense February of Twenty twenty. And my son and I do it together and so far. We have got three houses that we are burning. Did you say February twenty twenty? I did February twenty twenty. What a great time to start investing in real estate right before Cova Da. Wow. I. Bet you like if this is this hard no under no one. Does it Yeah exactly. Chris what about you man? Yeah. Name is Chris Lawrence been investing for about three years in real estate. I recently left my my sales job in doing this time married no kids running around yet reinvest in Rochester New York we flip do wholesales reynolds all that sort of stuff and I'm fan during a little bit right now to be on the big pockets podcasts as I've learned so much from listening before I started during a now over the year. So hopefully, I can add some value and incites hell closer you too Ashley. We are about our in fifteen minutes. Yeah. So I've gone to visit Chris before and I've seen one of his flips and progress, and then he came and saw one of my rehabs to Oh nice. Nice. She always complains because I get to meet all the all the guests because they're all close to the south and I think finally she got one and amy amy last week onto Seattle. Hearing, Yakima Washington. Your crossed the map. Okay. So Amy, let's jump in and the first question I have for you on your partnership is what made you decide to do a partnership? Well it was basically my son he came to me and he said I need to find some write offs since start investing and he had listened to a couple of bigger pockets podcasts and he's like mom you've got to listen to this. This is kind of amazing and crazy all at the same time what's possible out there and so I listened to that podcast I was at his house I listened to that podcast on the way home and I couldn't wait to get home to call him and say it's done. We're doing this and from then on I have hit the road running and Like I said, we're on our third property now. So before we before we get into your portfolio and what you chose to invest in that, can you give us a little background on yourself? Would you do prior to real estate investing? So both I I still have a W. Two job and my son still has a w to dub also and I were for a hospital, but I work out of my house. So I do everything remote and he's an electrical linemen and I grew up with parents that had rentals but I didn't have. I wasn't in I didn't see that much but all I heard was the negativity from my dad. So and my dad was one of these that wanted to do everything himself, and so he as we all know if we try to do it ourselves, we burn, we get burned out really bad and so that's what happened to him. So when I got the time to really I could have started investing when I was younger I heard that negatively so I didn't look into it. So thankfully, my son was like, let's do this mom. Did you guys structure your partnership. Did you do an LLC is it in your personal names and how did you decide the equity? Yeah. So we just decided We were GONNA do fifty fifty, and he's kind of the money person and I take care of. The property management person and we just have it in individual names. We don't have it in an LLC as yet, and then we just kind of divide our duties. I know he's my numbers guy he runs. You know we'll both look for properties and then I'll be like, Hey, look at this one and all around the numbers to but he's my numbers man he's like get. My numbers, he keeps the receipts, does all the spreadsheets were as I am like more of the boots on the ground I want to do the renovating I, want to do the decorating. I'm there to check on the contractors if I have to meet somebody to open the house, that's my job to Dale. So we have divided we know what each one of our jobs are. That's that's really important in a partnership because I feel like sometimes people come in and are looking for someone else. That's that does what like they're looking for a partner who is good with what they do like? Oh, we're both good excel sheets there or we're both good in our number. So we're going to work well together and I think it's quite the opposite and I love that you said that like he's your number guy your boots on the ground he's you know he's the guy and you can you can you know make a house look pretty and able to sell it I love that because it's really important to identify your strings and then feed off of that off. Of each other like you've accepted, you're probably not the best an excel sheet, but you're really good at decorating a home or or doing a flip. So I WANNA Kinda I kinda want to jump into that a little bit if you'll tell us about one of your most recent deals that that you did with your son, we'd love to hear about it the the nuts and bolts in and everything about it. Well, we bought a three bedroom one bathroom house and decided we were going to turn it into a four bedroom two bathroom and we were adding a bedroom and a bathroom downstairs in the basement which at the time you know we didn't know anything we were doing we didn't know. How complicated at actually was going to be to add the bathroom downstairs but it was great because we had all of these obstacles stop us but we didn't let them stop us. We found a different plan to get around them. So even though we had issues come up, we kept pushing forward nothing ever stopped us. So it took us five months to pretty much do a full gut renovation on this house. While five months to a full Reynaud, that's that's actually quite fast. Though I've seen I've seen him go a lot slower. So kind of run us through the numbers what did you buy for in in all that information? So we bought it for one, thirty five we put about thirty thousand dollars renovation into it. We had it appraised for a hundred and three, thousand, five, hundred more than we bought it for. So that was really exciting thrilling to us to see that all of that hard work actually did pay off and I got renters in it about three weeks ago, and we ended up getting a much higher rent than we had expected on it also. since that is so i. It's a huge win for our first one and you know just keeps you pushing forward and the other thing that it does since we're talking about partnerships here is we are actually wanting to find other partnerships to scale our business. So now we can take this win and I'm going to portfolio notebook and I can take this with me when I go to find partnership. So I can show that we can do this the you know we have a deal history and it just gives us more credibility with other people. How are you said before that your son is the money guy. So are you guys putting in cash offers or is he going to the bank and getting financing? How are you purchasing these properties right now? Oh, all three properties have used hard. So he yes, he's the money guy. He brings the down payment. We used hard money to get all of these and so now that we've got the first one completed, we are in the process of doing the refinance and it'll be in his name for refinancing. Okay. So you guys are first time investors and you got hard money. y'All. Listen to that everyone. Don't be afraid to ask don't be afraid to go out there and try to get money because look at no experience and you got hard money and I was when I hear the word hard money. I was terrified it's like. It's like I. Think of loan sharks you know it's like. Learning from the Mafia. Yes. But I tell you what the that getting my hard money loan. Our hard money loan for these properties has been a thousand times easier than getting my refinance loan. You know it's interesting. You say that amy because I feel like a lot of times investors when they first start, they are like Oh bank money that's the only way to do it but there's so many other avenues to finance deals and I always tell them that the financing for me is important, but it really depends on what the deal is. So if I'm doing a flip, then I'm GonNa go hard money if I'm doing by hold then I'm going to get bank financing so like I'm not going to try to get bank financing to do. A flip because that's going to be really really difficult but like I think you did it exactly the way you're supposed to, which is that you used hard money for a flip that you're doing i. think that's amazing. Good for you when you and your son went out and looked for the hard money lender, what was the? What was the the the the mindset that you had to go find that. So yeah, my mindset was this lake. Oh Gosh hard money. Okay and so my son, of course, he's the one that went to find the hard money and I was GONNA say I I don't even know for took a day to get his credit ran and to get a five hundred, thousand dollar limit on hard money and he called me all excited. I'm like. Thousand dollars what and not that. You know we're gonNA use that much because you have to have the down payment but it was exciting but I think one of the things that I want our listeners to get from here is that the reason your son wasn't scared to do that was because he had his numbers down he knew what you purchasing he knew the after repair value you guys low balled what? You thought your rent was going to be so you ran your numbers correctly and this is the importance of doing that. So you're not scared of hard money because now you know the outcome, you know worst case scenario, best case scenario and I'm assuming you're number on worse case scenario and now hard money is is is not as scary as it looks sometimes. So Kudos to you guys for that for sure. Exactly right. What is some advice you can give to our listeners today about working with a partner especially family because a lot of times that can lead to problems because it's a lot harder to end partnership with your family. When you don't WanNa, ruin that relationship right I would say trust is the number one thing any partnership he has to trust me I have to trust him and we just kind of feeding off of each. Other but the communication is huge also so I think between trust and communication. If I don't tell him the Gosh, the contractor can't be here for two weeks and then we have an additional two weeks and holding costs that he's not figuring in to our loans and are holding and everything that's going to increase. I mean, that's GonNa decrease what we're going to be making the end. So that communication is key also in a partnership. has there been any obstacles that you guys have had to overcome like personal like issues that have come up during this partnership so far I mean any disagreements about anything that you guys have had to work through you know my son and I are pretty much just alike were very laid back and so no there haven't been any issues between us. We kind of feed off of each other like when we were doing the Rehab I'd be like, Oh, I wanNA knock this wall out and I want to put this in and I want to put this. Mom you're not living here. It's going to be our rental and vice versa. There were things that he would want to do and I'd be like. Well, this isn't our main home. So let's think about that. So we feed off of each other very well. What about dealing with contractors as a beginner like what a what about dealing with that? Can you give us some juicy stories on how that worked out? boy well, for one we did most of the stuff ourself on this first house. The second third house were having more people do it however, a good story was we had to cut the window out of the basement wall to have a legal bedroom down there. and. So we had the concrete contracting company. Coming and rain at was the day that Cova hit. and. So I got to meet the guy and I saw the truck pull up and he not get out of his truck. And so then my son calls me and said, where are you at the company wants to know they said there guys there and I said, yes. But he hasn't got out of the track. So long story short we walked up to the truck and he said he wasn't getting out because of Hove it. said that they were sorry that they would send another guy out tomorrow while that is when everything that completely shut down and nobody was doing anything. So here are plumber was ready to go to install the new bathroom but are concrete construction company had cut the concrete from the floor in the basement. The window in order to proceed were stuck. Now, what are we do since they're not going to come back? So therefore we went and we bought a concrete cutting saw and we cut all of that concrete out of the basement and the wall ourselves. Wait a minute hold on hold on pause wait I know those machines that's a really big blade and. That's that's a really scary. You guys just went to town on your on the side of the House. What did you hard money lender thing what did you even? That is Hilarious I love that story aby. Well did it with a did it was awesome and that's why if there's an obstacle, there's always a way to find. A different. There's always a way to get around that. You know there's always another solution good for you. I. Love that grind through at Grit through it and I think that's what differentiates successful real estate investors from those who just you know quit they're like, oh, well, the guy can't cut the hole in it. So I'll just have to wait until Kovic stops and whatever. So they ended up you know hating the. But let me let me ask you I'm GonNa ask you a selfish question here. What was it gonNA cost you to make that window in the basement I. Think it was like five hundred fifty dollars to have the window cutout and the concrete cut in the basement. The basis ogre it's interesting. You ask that question because that is kind of what we base this on. Okay. It's GONNA cost five fifty for them to cut it out. We went we bought the concrete cutting soft for five hundred dollars. We put in the hard work and did this ourself how ever doing this? We were going to have to hold it for another three four five weeks who knows. When businesses were going to open back up and the main thing that people have to remember as you have holding costs when you have hard money or when you have any loan so you can't just say, okay, I'm GonNa wait and sit for five weeks because you are losing money over those five week. Therefore, that was an easy decision for us to go down and spend five hundred dollars on a concrete cutting saw and put in the hard manual labor and do it ourselves plus you'll always have that saw you can use it again or you could always resell it probably for at least half of what you bought it for exactly and Memories, we've made memories. To. How Would have been because our batteries you know you could only do like one to one and a half minutes cutting through that concrete, and then you'd have to charge the batteries again. We were a whole day. They're doing other stuff roller batteries recharging and we would run back and forth cutting that out. have an end goal like do you have a certain amount of properties? You want to reach a certain dollar amount equity certain cash flow you WANNA reach together. That's interesting. We were talking about this yesterday yes. Our goal is to get both of us out of our W. Two jobs and he has two young children, and so we want to make sure that we are both set up and family will be taken care of and setup as far as a many goal. We haven't you know set a money a number, but we are wanting to get into our next purchase which we're looking for right now we want to start multifamily, and then our ultimate goal is storage units. Very. Were looking to progress to Bury, good but that's exciting. What is your next step to reach that goal? So you're right now for multifamily, what are some action items you can give our listeners to what they can do to find their next deal especially working with a partner where you have to take in consideration each ones you know preference ideas, strategies, goals that's kind of where we both look and then send what we find to each other but we are going to mail letters I set and I look I look at the city maps and if I see something that looks like. A multifamily looks like a five four? You can tell on the maps, the ones that are houses and the ones that are bigger multifamily units. So I'll click on those and I'll see if I can find owner's name and address and it's an LLC I'll try find who owns that and send a letter to them asking if they are interested in selling and if not maybe they would know an acquaintance or another business person that's interested in selling I tried to get my name out there to anybody that I can because everybody knows somebody that owns properties. So if you talk to anybody and everybody. And you may come up with somebody says, oh. Yes. By the way I know so and so that wants to sell the property and there you go. That may be your next investment good for you. Thank you so much, amy, like I'm so happy for you when I met you and then like hearing your story about how you did a hundred thousand on your first deal in equity and just that you took the risk of partnering with your son and you went and got hard money you didn't you didn't take the easy way you took whatever made this work for you and to get it done. So congratulations and thinking I can't wait to see where you go so. Our second deals are working on right now is going to be even sweeter than the first gets. Exciting. Follow up with amy or let us know how that's going. Amy That's such an inspiring story, and that can be the norm for everyone right I mean running your number's getting a good partner, finding the deal and then just getting through it and finishing on the other side, you know you're going to have like amy hundred, thousand, thousand equity and great rent. So Emmy, thank you for the story. We are going to go to Chris now introduce himself a little bit earlier, and here's a little bit about him. Christopher give us a little bit of background on yourself what your portfolio look like what? You do give get it all. Yeah, perfect. Yeah. Thanks so much Yeah. So we currently have done I guess about investing in three years we have done about fifteen to twenty deals at this point I don't really know how much but it's pretty much been a combination of like wholesale flip in Reynolds. We currently have six and hold. Reynolds. And Yeah, just just the keeping that Marseille machine going and like I said I do full time now so it's keeping the pipeline full with deals. So that's what are our situation looks like currently. So when you started Chris, did you start right off with a a partnership or did you start on your own and then take on a partner? Yeah. So I started on my own like my I say for five deals I did on my own and quickly realized okay, I. I had limited capital I wanted to do this so I could scale it an lead my sales job. At the time I think I've only done one or two deals I met my business partner which my wife's uncle and his brothers in my wife's Dadan. told him kind of like what I was doing and they're like, yeah, we think it sounds good. You're trustworthy kid and but you haven't done it yet. So. I had no proof of concept that I could do it fast forward after I did handful more deals Andy who is not my business partner is like I, think there's something to this I would love to important with Ya and in he had a didn't have checked all the boxes like he had the liquid capital he had. The business acumen profit loss in different stuffs where it my weaknesses were his strength and vice versa my strengths were his weaknesses like I know proof of concept I have not to work with contractors networking you know working with just getting deals in getting from. Point one to all the way to the end. So it worked out well, Chris before we get into too much of that. If I remember correctly, you're getting a great industry in your own checkbook correct as part of the deal. Yeah were fifty fifty partners and he has he locked. So it's a home equity line of credit that we can draw from, and you know we borrow money from like four to five percent. So as amy mentioned, holding costs can eat you up over the more time you hold onto it and four five percent That's pretty much like free money sour super excited to be in that position and we can with that interest rate were able to buy deals maybe a little closer to the number of that we'd want to just because we're not paying that much in an interest. Let's talk about the he locked situation there Chris 'cause I love this strategy and I think it's so. Under appreciated underrated whatever you WANNA call it's not sexy right? It's not cool. It's not the Oh, I went and got hard money and it's just the he'll just doesn't seem to be as as interesting but I love this strategy and matter of fact, I have a rental property that's completely paid off for the simple fact that I want to be able to reuse that money for flips and wholesale deals in whatever the case may be, and you kind of become your own banker with the he lock. So can you kind of dig into it a little more how you use the he'll talk to you guys advantage. Yeah the he locked I. Look at it just gives you the most philosophy of your money. So say you know your your home is worth a hundred, Gran? It's it paid off. You can then borrow typically eighty percent on that. So you'd have eighty thousand dollars essentially to deploy at any time in once you say you're used eighty thousand, you start paying interest on that you can make monthly. Payments. Until you you're flipping until you sell a property like if we were when we buy a property in solid, usually four months, you pay four months of interest on eight thousand dollars you pay it back and then you can kinda rinse and repeat it. Just it gives you the most in my opinion gives you a great ability to to buy a property kind of with cash and it's very. Convenient and stays open as long as you keep it up on banks and what's cool is you don't you don't have to draw it completely like you can draw as much as you want up to the limit and then pay it off as you need, and then some of them are interest only. So that's really good as well and one of the other things that I like about the home. Equity Line of credit is that you can purchase property at better prices because you are an all cash buyer, right. So let's say that someone has one hundred thousand dollar home for sale and the MLS and I'm going to offer ninety thousand cash none none of the contingencies and someone offers one, hundred, thousand, the full amount, but with like contingencies of the bank and this and appraising and all that. I if I was the seller, I would go quickly with the ninety grand cash quit close get out of there in two weeks. So I think like you even have more leverage using a he log strategically of course, you want to use it running your numbers and things like that. So I think that's an excellent strategy. How do you guys handle using? He locks refinancing paying them back in the back end part Of the strategy. Yes. Oh, so far we've only done flips with the lock. So after we buy the property with he lock and then sell it, we pay back the he'll walk let's all the interest and than we currently have a duplex that we bought that we have a combination of the he lock on some just some private money. We're going to keep that keep paying the the monthly payments on that until. For a variety of reasons tents in there and we don't necessarily want to refinance until we a tendency that move out or they decided to leave, and then we re it another cash out refi Paying, paying the payments for the flip and then in for the Reynolds, pay those monthly payments. How do you guys decide which one because the the by whole units are yours only correct how do you decide for a property is going to go to the flip side or is you gonNa keep it for yourself for a buy and hold? So I have my own rental properties but now going forward with this new partnership starting in January anything we buy is through our partnership. So we bought a duplex. That we bought with the like I mentioned before in really like when we get a lead in like we'll put it through the funnel like okay. Is this a good wholesale as to go rhino is good and then we again Andy. Just Kinda says Chris what do you want to do is say, Hey, this I think we should do you trust me in your. Poetry you're on and go forward. That's that's how we interact I think it's smart because a lot of times people will buy a deal with the wrong goal in mind which is why it doesn't work out. Right? Every property I think in real estate has a great goal behind. This is a great property to flip. This is a great property to buy and hold and. It depends on location. There's a lot of criteria that goes into it, but it's really important to know that and identify what that property is going to be used for that way you can decide what kind of financing you're gonNA use what kind of deal it's GonNa become right so I wouldn't use a he locked to buy a buy and hold property, for example. Unless I had the goal to refinance it right after I would probably my to do a fix and flip where I can sell it and then pay off the he and then reuse that money again. So every property has a definition goal behind it and it's year goal as an investor to find that out and that way you can successfully use the right financing successfully. Know what you're GonNa do with that property. How's IT GONNA affect. You guys, partnership goal. So I think that's I think that's that's a great strategy to use Chris? I. Didn't even ask you. Do you have a deal in mind that you want to run through that? You've successfully done with one of your partners. Yeah. Yeah. So we're currently working on one right now. So this is a fix and flip in in Greece New York Rochester. We actually got this lead through networking with a probate attorney. You sent one of those clients to some able to meet the lady that owned the House our sister passed away so and she lived out of state. So she wanted to sell kind of quick on a hoarder house. It seems like all the houses I bought in the past few months this order houses. So we're Kinda use it at this point, but we're able to come to agreement. On price and something that worked for her and work for us. We vote for fifty five thousand put about thirty, five, thousand in Rehab Repairs and we've owned it for about thirty days. So we're actually GONNA, list it beginning of next week. So end of September and realistic for one, nineteen nine. So we should make right around that twenty to thirty thousand dollar mark, which we she four on our flips as a kind of a Marta Dame for that's great. How do you guys? Do you guys do an LLC joint venture? How do you structure that you have an operating agreement? Yes. So we have a fifty fifty partnership and we have an operating agreement which we drew up with Dr Attorneys and I think before we even did any of that like I think any alluded to a little bit right? It's okay. Do we have similar values beliefs goals like are we good communicators because things pop up and some sometimes things? Good. Sometimes things out so good and you just you work through you got having understanding of like, okay this is what we do and. I think that's what could can really make a partnership great or go the other way so so far so good. That's awesome. I want to bring up a story that you told me before about before you had a partner and days before your wedding, you had the money. For your leading into a deal and you your contractor didn't show up and you had to tell your own bathroom so that something like that happened. Now we're contractor quit and you had to finish the job because you need that money would how would you handle that with your partner? Would you still be the one going out and doing that would you and your partner both be there working? Yeah. Hopefully, that never comes up again because that was a super stressful time but if if that came to it at, you know I would. More than likely to go tyrod or or find new contractor to do it just because it's at Andy his role is really providing the finances the business acumen really just me a different perspective so it would. It comes back to those clear expectations and what are my roles, his roles, and sure if I need to ask him, he'd help but we could. We could get it done and get to the. Finish. Line. That is really important defining your roles ahead of time before a situation or scenario comes up like that because it will be very easy to get into this mindset while I'm doing more work than you or you're not doing as much as me, but we're fifty fifty. So having those clear defined roles ahead of time and written down. So what goals do you guys have do have a Date. What do you guys want to reach with this business yet? It's it's funny. We just had a meeting the other day. We're like, you know we're not as far along as we'd like in terms of you know we wanted to flip twelve this year I think we'll probably close to six seven. So it's it's partly like I don't want to put too much on it. Could it be sent a covert or this or that? So it's like, okay, let's let's give it another year like our ultimate goal down the road is I wanted to be able to do twenty four flips in a year soup to months making. that. At Twenty Five, thousand dollars profit mark to make it work for partnership right because we talked in like okay. If if we can't get to that, you know maybe down the road, it doesn't make partner I could do one deal Yom on my own, but it's really just WanNa grow this bigger and in naked something where we can all benefit from it. So it's it's really like okay. If we can get to that twenty four, you'll mark will continue to keep doing this and I think even if we get to that twelve deal mark a year I, think we'll continue to keep Brian see where we're at. And again, it's you. You never know what how the partnership will shape out but it's like we always have a constant communication dialogue of like, okay this is what we're doing and so far. So good. Chris, let me jump in here real quick. What was the biggest learning curve that you would say when starting partnership with someone? Yeah. The biggest learning curve I would say is figuring out 'cause I work a certain way in my partner is a different type personality just figuring out how how we work while the other his strengths, my my my strengthened vice versa in just really having that communication and partnership because at times it can be challenging for sure. What about you had mentioned that you and your partner might split up you can't reach the goals that you want might be better to go and separate ways. Can you elaborate a little more on that so that maybe some people realize they don't need a partner and when does it not make sense to take on a partner? Yes. So yes so I started like, okay, we WANNA do this and we WanNa do twenty four flips in a year in had some good successful restarted on the partnership on these deals were off market in my shoot. We can easily do that with marketing learning this whole machine on how to do that in. It's been a little slower to be honest and I don't know if that's covered like I mentioned or. What the case says, but we're like, okay like if we can get twenty four flips in, make our number where we both can make what we want and make the money and have the lifestyle we want on. To if not, maybe we split off and just do some deals together. Like that. So it's really just a i. think it really just comes back to that that communication piece and like okay. Here's here's I WANNA do when I left my. Job Do this fulltime yeah. I was making six figures had all the benefits in your learning as you've got type of ready fire aim person and like Let's give this a go and worse case scenario go back to a sounds job and do four or five flips because I've learned so much that I can make money on the slips and stuff that you can ever take away. So so yes. So at this point like us give it a year and see what we can accomplish in so far so good sites I think. will be in a good spot come a year from now. I would agree I think you guys are GonNa, crush it I think you and Aamir perfect examples of starting out and then already in the in the middle of it but running your numbers and the importance of other people in your deals and just working well together and I think this is going to be a good segue for moving onto the second part of our show where we're going to ask you about an MVP. Let's hear from today's show sponsor this week our show is partly sponsored by better help. A website that you can go on and get matched with great therapeutic therapists. What they will do is they will help you with a range of different things as investors. We all love personal development in what's better than having a therapist to help with that. I want you to start living a happier life today. So as our listeners, you guys can get ten percent off your first month by visiting better help dot com slash rookie you guys can join over one million people that are taking charge of their mental health today. Again, that's better. Help H. E., L. P. dot com slash rookie. Someone. That's been super great in your real estate investing someone who's been a positive influence. So amy I'm going to start with you who has been someone that's an MVP in in your investing so far. I would have to say mine mentors in my mastermind groups that I'm in. I have to mastermind groups that I am in and that I follow and my mentors are awesome. But not only that in my mentor ship in the mastermind. I learned so much just from the other people that are in there also so. I would say that just having somebody that you can go to with questions at anytime is huge for me I. Agree I think that's really important. The power of having community around you. That's going to support you when it just hits the fan because it's going to happen and you WANNA be able to ask questions or you WANNA be able to reach out to someone that maybe has had that situation happened to them. So I think that's a great answer not even just asking questions but the accountability to. Having somebody in, and that's what's Nice. About having partners to is that you can hold each other accountable. Chris what about you? Who would your most valuable player that has helped you succeed in near Real Estate Business There's so many people in having a good network of people but in particular when I first started, I met one of just a girl I went to school with her dad invest in real estate. You've done it for twenty years and still continues to do it fixed slips and that sort of stuff and they actually able to connect with him, and now I view is my mentor. But now we're friends we talk pretty regularly and like like you said like things pop up different Safi That's that's fine. But you gotta you can do this and you'll have different exit strategies. Needed gives you insight kind of calm the nerves anxiety and Things that you go through because investing real estate. When you first start there's so much emotional and there's so much of a mental side to real estate like a mindset and it's just great to connect with someone that can can can shoot you straight and give you insights into real estate because if I was asked by parents or someone else it doesn't best, they can might not give me the best advice starts super important to have good mentor Chris when you went and I talked to him was he annoyed was he bothered or was he excited and passionate to find someone else to talk to real estate about enhancing up to help you? You're super excited because it's like you're a real estate investor. So you love talking real estate and you can help people out in like me like people will reject me on Instagram and I love to help people out like if I can give them advice, I will certainly give them advice and and again I give them my perspective. Yeah. Was Super People love to talk real estate. If you liked investment real estate, your chance are genuine and have a great approach people are going to be open giving you insight. Have you done anything to provide value to him? A lot of people say you know if you're looking for a mentor and make sure that your providing something back in return for them helping you. Look just a few needed something of one of those flips or just needed me to do something we would meet up in in link-up and he to certain tasks. You'd ask you we would try to help out any way. I could not be a young burdensome than just hey, you need help or would you going through? We've call connect and I think a lot of times. It's really important to just make yourself available. You can allow yourself to be available to the people that you want to get mentor ship from or help from I. think that's super super crucial, and then showing up to meetings also, really important. You follow me on Instagram. You know this story. Just showing up the battle. Okay, let's move on. So let's Cross sign is that what you're GONNA say. No Ashley what if I wanted to take it somewhere else? So have you guys on a call in to the rookie request line? It is one, eight, eight, five rookie. So today's question for amy is. Hey. Amber from Tampa my question really is like I'm very very rookie. So I'm very new to the real estate. I WANNA learn more and more of a hands on learner. So definitely want to be able to find a mentor something in my city and they have looked through bigger pockets forums and things like that. My question is people to gain more hands on experience I do have a full time job how do I navigate those hours and be able to still work on the side 'cause my hours I feel like a very inconvenient for people that might want to help mayor train you mentor me do I need to give up my job and maybe find a different job in the real estate field or do you think I can still keep my job navigate this real estate gig Thank you so much. Well. I would try and find a contractor and like my mentor always tells me go to Home Depot openness six o'clock in the morning, go to Home Depot and look at all of the trucks in the parking lot. There are so many contractors electricians. You know you're going to get numbers from there and just start calling and tell them what you're wanting to do and like Ashley said try and bring value. Don't just go and say well I want you to show me this. Why do you want tell them what your goal is tell them what you're, why is and ask them what you can do for them to help get information, and late, go work for them. Tell them. You'll go work on the job with them for free for you take a couple days vacation I mean whatever you can do when they see that you're willing to do something for them. Then they're more likely to do something for you. Single ladies I just want to say that this is also a way to find a partner for free by going to Home Depot and finding a contractor who do your rehabs for you. Now. Ashley. Why do you think I'm? Every. AMI's. The, contact to bring home man. We're going to go your own podcast center on we're going go. Okay. So let's move onto Chris's review requests line. Hello my name's connor from New England more sickly Rhode Island. In. A very hot market up here right now where properties off Dan Analyzer showing very low returns my question for you guys. Think that it would be accessible for or against option to go through a wholesaler that's already quote me some pretty good deals can hard money lender involved and then refinance out for the low interest rates were seen at the time or is that something? That's a little bit risky and they're not like myself. Thank you. Yeah I think it really all this comes back to like do the numbers makes sense for your criteria like if it's for example, if it's a original and you WanNa make two hundred dollars in cash flow your doing the rehab pain the wholesaler after buying property does it meet your criteria I guess it'd have to meet your criteria in your numbers you can find a deal anywhere whether it's your host wholesaler or or off market but just make sure the numbers work and when I first started someone told me a a really important kind of less than us is still stood with me today don't wholesalers whether they make ten fifteen, twenty grand I if if the Numbers Work for you by the deal and congratulates holes like man that's a great deal. I. Bring me more type stuff. So I I'd say it has to make the numbers have to make sense for whatever that is if it's a flip or rental some I would agree I think as long as you are running your numbers that's crucial and like we said earlier in the show, it's really important to run your numbers based on what that deal should and is going to be is this going to be a burr? Is this going to be a flip is going to be a wholesale and run your numbers based on that and there should be no no reason to be scared of. Getting a hard money lender amy perfect example hundred, thousand inequity. Everyone. At the table made their money the lender made their money. Amy made her money partner made her money her son so I think that's the key to real estate. If there's a secret sauce to real estate, it has to be that everyone wins and if everyone wins, it's a happy transaction all the way around. Okay. So let's move on to our random questions. We're going to ask two questions to each of you today They can be a little bit real estate related maybe not sleeping I really just pick them randomly as we are going. So I'LL START I got I got one ready. So Chris and Amion ask you the same question Im-. If you WANNA go first, let's see what is one thing you should have in your partnership agreement that is in the norm. So like for one thing I always recommend is having life insurance policies on your partner. Okay. So is there anything else even if you don't have it in your agreement now something that you would do in the future to into your operating agreement to maybe save some trouble down the road What would you say? I was actually going to say life insurance. Oh, I'm sorry. That's okay. And everyone the benefit of doing that. Well. Even though my partnership with with my son, you never know what's going to happen and whoever we're looking to scale now. So when we get partnerships with somebody else I don't know their family I. Don't know their wife I don't know their children and if something were to happen to them. I don't want to be the burden and say, okay, well, they're still a business Taran we still have all this other stuff that we have to take care of. So by having life insurance, you can just say, okay, I'm going to. Here's the life insurance. I'M GONNA basically cash them out and then I will become one hundred percent. Owner hundred percent vested on those properties so they don't have to worry about them anymore. So for me, that's one of the biggest things that I would say is having life insurance and and just having an agreement. Yeah, and it's a benefit to you and it's a benefit to your partner's family too. Because a lot of times they don't want to have to take on a rental property to right Oh. Yeah. Thank you for sharing explaining that Chris. What about you? What something you think is really important to have in the operating agreement with your partner that might may not be the norm. Yeah and say you know obviously had the boilerplate operating agreement I. Think we don't have this but I think if you're gonNA, it might be helpful like to have like what your roles are in state like this. These are the clear expectations and what what you WANNA do because the way I might think of something might be different how my partner interprets sits of it's on paper and you guys agree on. That, you can just refer back to that operating agreement as as a manual and I could see prevent stuff. Issues. Down the road. Yeah I really like that, and one thing I like to do to is add like promos prices on their. So like okay whoever's acting as the leasing agent, they may get paid this amount or if someone's doing the maintenance, this is the hourly pay they're going to get on top of their their equity. So someone who really is concerned about like I know it's not going to be fifty fifty I don't want to do. A partnership then do it that way like get out right a pay scale for those extra jobs and what that person's going to be paid. Then like my partner and I, we are fifty fifty we used to do everything fifty fifty, and now everything's just given out to property management. So that solves that too can also outsource as much as possible. But yeah, that's a great advice to write out the job description of those roles. Question sure. I WanNa know from both you guys What is one and I love this question because I think a lot of value to people what is one piece of technology that you've used to continue growing your business and that's helped you tremendously in what you do with your partners. Chris I want to know something about finding deals. What are you using? Yeah. So finding deals we're doing and that's always evolving where she shaking out what works and doesn't work but right now. So we're really focusing in on online marketing. So your SEO engine optimization, we're doing pay per click we actually started doing. Commercial for three months. So for us, it's that credibility in kind of that said that celebrity feel when you hear me on the radio, then you go to our website. Building. All of that out because odd times like we were doing text message marketing and people get a lot of deals through that. But people for me it didn't Kinda one against what I believe in people were kind of angry and Sassy and not really liked happy to hear from us in there like your real estate investor you even real. You know. So a lot of that building credibility in building that trust authority on Sony. On the website and all that they already know what we're what we do, what we're about our core values and just normal people genuinely want to help you out. I actually saw one of your ads on facebook this morning because same background that you have right now. Yeah. It was really nice. Thanks, amy. What about you? What piece of technology would you say? Well we're so new that we're still trying to incorporate our systems down and so I would say my first when I got on the MLS I just thought that day and knew I had to offer on it but our second ones we actually sent letters out to. Occupy owners, and that's how we got ordeals. On our second line, how did you find those non-occupied owners? Did you buy a list? Yes we bought a list but this time we're not this time I'm going to be hands on and like I said earlier, I'm just looking at my plat map from a city pulling up whatever looks like a multifamily to me getting that phone number name and either sending a letter sending attacks during a cold call. That's what we're doing. That's what we're doing now to find are multifamily that we want, and then when you get those properties, are you talk to them? I'm assuming then you tell your son Hey, this is probably a good one run like you guys run the numbers together and Then kind of the ball starts rolling is that about right? Yeah. Kind of like if we get a call back like he was the one that got the call last time and so he's like, Hey, look at this I looked at it. Yeah. I like it. I. Ran the numbers. He ran the numbers yet it looks good and so then we make contact with the owner and just we started talking back and forth and that's within we made the offer. So yeah, we'll do the same thing I. Don't know if he'll get the caller I'll get the call. We will decide that and then filter them out, run our numbers, and if the numbers look good then started offering process. Amy Thank you guys so much sharing that. Can you guys tell us where we can find out some more information about you where people can reach you see we're all your deals are going on a me younger I. Yeah. Okay. I'm swayze a live in Yakima Washington and you can find me on Instagram at Amy swayze. K. and Chris, what about you? Very active on social media platforms namely Instagram. So it's Chris flips rock. So C. H. R. I asked flips Rock Ro see in a give my website in the show notes you can check out the website in certainly demere ethnic questions are love to help add value anyone can What's your? Website Chris. Be. A website is www dot helping homes are dot com. Great Awesome. Well, thank you guys very much for being on the show today we love hearing about your partnerships and this is GonNa Air Pretty soon here. So I'm sure there will be lots of questions for you guys in the facebook rookie group. So if you guys haven't joined yet, make sure you search real estate rookie on facebook and join the group and Chris and amy will be in there to answer more questions. You guys have. Thank you so much for joining us. My name is Ashley at wealthed from Rentals Might Co host the li-pei at flea. 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Contemplating the Entrepreneur Lifestyle w/ Chris Michael Harris, Founder @ StartupU

Plan B Success

36:23 min | 5 months ago

Contemplating the Entrepreneur Lifestyle w/ Chris Michael Harris, Founder @ StartupU

"Greetings everyone and welcome back to another episode of plan b success. Who have us today. Is chris michael from texas the founder of startup you an interactive learning platform for entrepreneurs take a business idea intended into a business. That's what chris focused on you know before he did that. While he was actually in college he ran into the business that was a pretty profitable. I ideally and he was in a moving company. That's what he did. Iran and moving company pointing time and then he also had health issues that he battled vigorously from four years and then came back with a. Vengeance submits here about prison story from chris himself. Welcome chris amy mentor me in your own words. How would you introduce yourself. Oh goodness i would say a lifelong entrepreneur that gain realized that that was a career path and settled about twenty five years old and i was in a multi-million-dollar startup I love passionately. Loves getting back teaching other people this beautiful gift of self-employment broza thiessen in the nuance mechanics. Added to successfully The figures farts vie for entrepreneurs as most of his argue aware of truth and told them make it harder than has to be not much that we learned throughout our lives leading up to the The first or the genesis point of a first business and i ain't equip people with that that now's information that maybe is contradictory in whatever form of education. They have up to the point of starting a business. That's fantastic so let's go back to your college day. Spend your started your business. Can you walk us through that. Yeah absolutely so as i mentioned i. I'm a lifelong urged in realized that was. I don't think i knew the word on until much later obviously entrepreneurship. I fled the last five years or so and come really sexy instagram. So she adding but echina- day this as you know This this really wasn't a prominent thing right so you went to high school. Go to college get a job. However throughout my life lineage of businesses if as the were writer our side hustles. Or what have you. I so in even as far back as grade school when my peers were at school and having fun over the summer i was literally going up and down my coldest akpo. Everybody's long made by three thousand dollars over the course of the summer fifth grade and so i just always really inherently understood the value of looking beyond the nine thoughts that the drinking wrong with an nine to five discouraged from their security in his thing zapped up at night and in fact. Many of my friends have nine to five. I was actually quite india them as near able to be very wise and no go on vacations in my homes and invest money. Well before i was able to do those them. So there's a lot. I couldn't do what i do Without the people that are committed to ninety five to help my vision. Become reality. So i want to make sure i'm abundantly clear about that But you know these side. Hustles continued to happen. Whether it was flipping clothes on ebay or binding flipping cars or a litany of side. Hustles that engaged with albeit not recognizing these were potentially lifelong opportunities right to college. It and it was more of the same saw an opportunity as most. These interest tend to take the good one. Everybody thinks entrepreneurship is about. This is sexy new thing. Rightness awesome like cool. Whatever taylor and don't get me wrong. There are awesome ideas. Like that out. There i was sending missiles to mars and manned space flights. That's pretty awesome. Cool stuff right. But oftentimes you'll find is. Somebody invented the coffee sleeve right. And they're making millions of dollars of a little cardboard. The goes on your cup of coffee so it's just a matter of finding a problem and then deriving solution from that problem so in college i recognized in this particular building that i lived in apartment community off campus farming and it really wasn't conducive to moving in or out of i often joke and say the building was designed by kindergartner with a crayon so i saw these two girls that were you know my peers. I didn't know they were my age. Rose moving this one of those foldout. Sofas down the hallway near. I i don't know if you've ever like really he'll back and look at the skeleton of one of those things fishing the older ones. But i mean it's metal teddy's they're they're weaving. You know run into walls and suffragan on annoyed because rightfully so as their head. So i grabbed my brother at the time we really engaged. In one of my side. Hustles was personal training side. I've been spending ample time at the gym and i offered. We offered to help. Then just let it up to them will. Their mom was joyous that we offered to calibrate. Help them out. So she gave us She gave us a tip. Better than i would have gotten a full day's worth of work on minimum wage ninety five right So anyways that kind of evolved into us eventually moving thirty percent of that entire building. Now we're not talking little tiny permitting regarding thousands of unions so no matter for about a month and a half we did up six eight thousand dollars in revenue just so happen to have. My brother's friend had his his grandfather moving truck and he said yea. Grandpa says we know cops. It was very serendipitous. Live together right. Let's fast forward a year. I'm now gradually as meeting my senior year. I am often the real world that a straight commission sales job was traveling over the region southeast when my other friend with moving char cited the knicks summers. Why not needed. Money can just focus on her studies. Not after worry about making money grubbing come So next thing you know They already paging sorority houses. Their classmates as it had like twenty three thousand dollars over the course of entire summer expanding the net one going. We'd operated at this point. I realized i'm very unhappy. I'm selling a bunch of stuff driving away. A place in making sacrifices and relay is taking a very very very small sliver of the pie for this massive massive deals. I'm raining very notable brains. I was gonna coca cola's big fortune. One hundred companies makings sales deals with. And i'm taking home. A tiny little sliver of that and just really also recognizing that my boss told me something that really stuck with boss. Time said you're not gonna get respect and listen to your hair. Looks like mob is hairs white as snow. The energy said only do i not. My brain doesn't work to see the real value ninety five just because of who i am on these weird like that known. Many of us are entrepreneurs who just doesn't work for us. Also i to wait forty years to be respected at that. There has to be a better way. Ran out to think more latterly in terms of my progression drama career. And here i have the same. I didn't go to school wedding into a prestigious university to start a moving business on services but recognizing that that industry it was an ugly duckling industry. There's a lot of money. There's people that are always moving. But it's done pretty blue-collar in there's not a lot of innovative disruption happened the issue so why don't we take a white collar more innovative technological person university so we were doing stuff. I mean you be shocked that just incorporating system bras assistant acknowledging we were actually in the process of developing Little stealth cans going on police hatch. That we could actually see any point. You can see what was going on inside of The person's home if there was damage as we could we could have the actual video footage to see what happened or what ended up becoming our version solution jobs. We were on We can see what happens damage. Transient see that actual evidence so a lot of really cool stuff that we were doing so that really took off within the next Within the next six to eight months. After i left then and decided to pursue moving company. Full-time i think within that wants about eighteen months later was a multimillion dollar company. Now the callous for growth in a kind of tease out a little bit was not just the residential moving. No apartments of stuff like that But the big opportunity in that space was like i mentioned i mean solution so the trend is student housing at that time. In probably still is the case is enes move in right. Bring their clothes and their whatever the personal items but the furniture phone has purposes already. Invited right it's the genes. Will they need somebody beyond the point of sale. Do the installation in assembly work. That's where we came into play so we ended up doing those about thirty two states at one point had three hundred fifteen police of probably twenty six twenty six years old. Had no idea what i'm doing sitters are working with five seven major players in turn furniture business for student housing so that's kind of the natural evolution of what happened but again from inception shooting of figures about thirty six months into town. It was a quick gary. Gary accelerated growth process. The very awesome. So where did you study in college. What are we what are you going. There they're funny. Say that. I real concern alive with majors. And what hadn't i probably have more. I could probably share credit hours lifestyle. He wants to get a degree are multiple degrees a hung. So i went for business was in business school there. Then of spying shifting huge is a basic communications degree and the only reason being because I just it looks like that gave you alive for avenues Kinda was like. I just won a piece of paper to show that i did it. I was really struggling. Even finish the degree to begin with because again i was already starting to feel pulled outside of a more conventional path. And how did you juggle between the two between the two degrees between between the degree in the company that you were setting up So there's a lot of internal consulate. There was a lot. So i think the hardest part is advising a lot of what i was trying to do. Was to live the life of a of a hustler right. So i would so for example Black friday weekend. I'm in my up primary junior college buddy of mine. As mentors couple years older than me He had he had read it at neiman. Marcus the newspeople accident so high end. Men's retail typically. It is what it is right like the very few returns into his with those those designer brands. they're very the cut the sizing. It's all very uniform. Rights knows you're gonna get so he found kinda needs to able to buy these high in designer clothings and to be able to bring them back into southern on ebay rice. He'd getting massive leaders items and sell them on ebay and pretty much double up on because you get fifty percent off. If you find a good deal spend over a certain threshold Twenty five percent off. So usually things i need to go. Eighty percent an amazon piece of. You're getting sixty five percent off. You need matthew doubling up. So we flew flew to new york on black friday letting thousand nine or something like that and we by forty. Three thousand dollars worth of clothing. It's that you actually knew a guy there through this contact led us in before it even opened the doors right so we're in there in the guide poll side items for us so we just clean house come back within a matter of weeks flipped it. Eighty four two thousand dollars. He used that we actually start his zero now. Which is basically selling like google. As and ferraris nor kinds of crazy stuff literally signings through that cool thing about that was actually no interest no payments for twelve months so as literally like a loan to a degree to wait utilized as it and i went within do that. I'm in the middle of college. I've got exams coming up. And i'm lying around gore new york flipping and this and that was obviously a lot of hustler. Do that so. I really struggled with a university that required fulltime me all time attention but still doing all these things on the side. Similar professors were great. Some of my one of them accountable. Sean issues supported. She said I million his. She just disrespect the what i was trying to do. She respected my industrious nature. I would get demerits or i will get you know i would actually have an as far as my grades but i see in the class because my tendons daca points because of my tenants i was constantly missied. And you know there's an opportunity sometimes the hustle. You can't predict what's going to happen writer. You gotta go wherever the opportunities. So i'd miss class here. Nobody always maintained my grades. What i should have done that of a long way to get your to answer your question. When i should have done is find a school. That was more school On weinstein's or something that was more conducive to what my life goals were are so i think lonzo what we ended up doing as we enter into school. We don't we wanna do. We assume all this dead right in. It's senseless right. So i understand that you don't wanna have this lag time. The tiny graduate heisman with a college. But if you don't know what she wanted in you're not like hey my whole life. I've wanted to be this to be a doctor. Or an attorney or whatever i would have done is buying a commuter school for instance going to be a little bit more of like a transitional process as you are moving forward if you decided. Hey yeah the more traditional rows from the you can still go that route. It also gives you the opportunity to be a little bit For whatever it is your other interests would passions maiden. That's what i would definitely was a very very very difficult juggle for me and minton rendent. The elks situation occurs In the midst of standing of this company and running it yes so that kind of exacerbated the problem The problem actually now that we are tracing back had actually spawned early grade. School just didn't realize it was accredited. He did misdiagnose for many years You thought it was. Adhd we gut brain axis issue a lot of neurological issues that we're doing with as a result of poor So is diagnosed or a lot of years a lot of the actual thumbs pharmaceutical drugs. I was taking actually even further Kind of exacerbated that problem kind of antagonist towards the problem actually had so but so you kind look at it. You know Your college drinking for more than you should or that didn't help turn marquel And then now you're startup where you're basically is eating whenever whatever you came right and she's hey great i'm busy. There's lock on on working eighteen hours a day. Mcdonald's is great option. Or hey my monster energy. Marie syllable big monster energy right. It's drank by the way for those dome on the run or not But i would just drink daryl day and that's my that was my only source of nourishment. Stress doesn't help either stress big manifest in the gut in terms of physical ailment. So it i can't put my finger on one particular thing that's like. This was the cause of my aleman. Who was a chronic condition worsened over time and it really came to a head. reminder replica thirtieth birthday where are just receive lab results. That were pretty damning. You're not going to be around past forty or fifty at current pace at your on of you'll really fully addresses so startup. Absolutely was a cat was a catalyst in the process in that stress comes with one. The startup nanjing cash flow growth. Sounds great until you experienced growth when you're not ready for growth You can sell yourself to death. Really can't get it in that that experience in managing that kind of growth. And not knowing what i was doing in having all the challenges that come with growth is running a company now an emerging startup Really is what took. I think a bad health situation to a terrible one. You said it took about four years to get to your struggles on the health side. So you know. And that's very personal right so depends on people estelle. Halliday take something like that. Some people very resilient and say okay. I'm keep going what i'm bleeding but at the same time take care of my health and some people can just come down like a pack of cards. How's your situation yes. I did both So we knew this is a big problem You know the pushing through the first the first us scenario you described. We did that for about four years. Maybe longer maybe five We knew something was wrong. My girlfriend who's now my wife. She would always tell me. There's really wrong. Davis needed to check out but in my mind. This is a really really toxic narrative that entrepreneurs until ourselves. Everything's a destination success as a destination. Happiness is a destination. Wealth is a destination health as destination right. And so we're so committed to to sacrifice and whatever required and don't get me wrong. That mindset is essential to be successful in a starter you just have to have your boundaries and blows right and now. I think what i've had to learn as a result of that. That was a really poor way to approach things is. You can't have the concerts in your mind right said. There's a way to do not do it all. I'm not saying you just need to juggle everything. But there's a way to say okay. We slow down. The growth. A little bit in terms of revenue were also hidden sustainable steps. Right we're taking affordable stats and. We're not just for the sake of selling. We're selling understanding our band within our current resources. In what the next steps look like not just selling everything in figuring how the hell to make it work that that that's not conducive to your own health and happiness but also towards be having a prosperous sustainable business great doesn't implode so i four or five years news be problem ignored. It just kept pushing forward rights. Like i'm young. I'm invincible bulletproof right. No problem then. What we realized was as a result of that. My situation became so severe. Because we didn't address it. Because i didn't find a way to have that paradox. Go dance between managing those two things that i had no choice right. My doctors were like look. You wanna address this naturally right. You don't wanna be on pharmaceutical drugs of your litany of side of that is is what's required. This is journey is a full-time communities a fulltime job. Resources knows who spent tens of thousands of dollars on my health just pursuing recovery right so so i was left with no choice. It was that or Really seriously looking at a very early. So i've experienced both ends of the spectrum. I would encourage them grow. I think we have a reunion bad. We have redefined what. I believe to be A normal level of health and wellness. Right like the bar has been lowered so much across the board. I think we are so sub optimal in terms of health that we don't even realize it like what you're experiencing isn't normal using exhausted in the afternoon and yawning and having a drink kathy that is not normal human function right like having a crazy. It for responses. Choose union clamato responses. That's not a normal response. You should not have that issue right. So there's a linear different things that we have in terms of health symptoms and signs that we kind of laugh about right. Another one is kinda funny when your your flatulence should not be malodorous right. You should be able to reach wind in in the room and nobody knowing we laugh about how it's will stink at a whole room right. And i know that's really am i. But that's a huge sign of nasa gut disruption that we just have accepted as a societal norm. Like will you know what stinks. Writing is what it is. That's not normal. Two out of ten guts now are actually healthy. It's crazy it's hair fine and you know all i believe i'll health wellness starts in the guard. I live that experience. Then that i saw how much i just ramle improve when we start to address mikhail so i worked with a lot of functional medicine. Practitioners log. People you know maybe just think disparagingly about that type of pursuit of what i found to be the most transformative or of treating myself the possible so i think as entrepreneurs specifically if you want to do big things requires big energy nor had big energy requires dig. Health requires you to really really focus on. Look at look at the tony robbins guys in the world. And he's got a little mini cool inside of his yard gets in its. It's freezing temperatures. He focuses on being able to withstand that he does. he's crazy. Work rituals has died is on point the people that do big things. I don't know any of them. It live on a beer and he tonight. I just don't like. I just don't think that's possible. The mind can only push you so far. We overestimate discipline willpower motivation. All of those things are byproducts. In my view into the experience and goalie are a byproduct of having a foundations all health wellness. And you do you follow that now with all that you've gone to. I guard my health and my wellness with my life. That that's the best the best lettuce eight. I mean i i will not. I don't drink alcohol. I don't which i mean that's that's a that's a bare minimum for a lot of alcohol. But i mean. I'm a i n whatta people call me as a label nazi everything. I eat everything. I consume even. If it's eating out. I will look at their menu. I will ask questions before. Go about what they used. Actually it's not about the macro writes about about what they put in jeans. How they cook the food right. But where the who came from all the various aspects so can't question short answer absolutely one thousand percent. Yes if you looked at my my cupboard in my refrigerator This person eats a so so yes dance. Your question i i as a. I've had to write it wasn't choice. Which made it is funny. There's even challenges as opportunities. I don't know that. I ever would have had the discipline to be able to Eat the way that i eat now had not been faced with the challenge that i was faced with right like a voluntary choice. They'll be able to do that. Given that it was such a severe circumstances surrounding my situation i knew choice but to change my lifestyle my dietary habits such way and now she's been done adamson part of my life what i do But yet it is the foundation of everything that i mean everything. I do revolves around really building my health up cutting company startup you what. What does your motivation to go. You heard it now my journ. It was man. I wish i had known i remember. Honestly i remember throughout mcgurn to any my business. Never cerny chains. I remember far too often. I thought to myself had. I known this six months ago. You know had. I known about this a year ago in in hershey. You're looking in the room year. When now you gotta deal with. You can say that you can happen. Those hateful learning com growing pains not growing pleasures. Right so you can look back and say in hindsight nanna an but there just wasn't a lot of knowledge or resources out there albeit non-mainstream right around gave but what if we can create entire community of entrepreneurs a have a reliable source Learns before they have to go through an actress. Figured out the hard way right his as painful Now you can't synthesize it. There's no replacement for the actual thing. I have students in in clients. That are what. I call professional learners. I don't it's not about reading the next book before you start is not about the next course. Free started it's about using those things As as komo's as a road now As a tool toolkit right at. Hey right now about started. Podcast i grab wash me to go through podcast course instead of just trying to figure things out and realizing oh my god. I spent thousands of dollars on equipment and it was a longer quite men were now. I'm on the wrong host into their sunk cost involved with a lot of those things in. Unfortunately you can't recruit those things so really what it came down to was. i experienced. Be our success. In efforts first business it was painful success right. It was unnecessary success. And moreover there is opportunity cost massive amounts two thousand fourteen alone. Yeah we made millions of dollars. I also turned away. Wins dollars because eddie was not ready prepared for that kind of accelerated growth. Had i been would have raised my in. Honestly here's the thing alive had to do with my own financial will because we did not have We need to have a credit card. We're doing millions of dollars because the traditional big banks told me in the local community banks told me two years tax returns while. I'm sorry. I can't help the fact that i grew in faster than what two years attack tax would allow me to do because at that point we had gone millions of dollars and i still didn't have to use detection because we're still baby company so i was too successful for them to be able to give them even a a line of credit right so it. Those things are things that i would've prepared differently. I would have brought in investors. I would make sure that. I had salaried employees go to keep up with it. I would have had a controller right. Because i i spent two thousand fourteen ninety percent of my time i spent major cash flow because we didn't have. We're making money because all these opportunities required money grows requires cash right. So i've got guys on the field all over the country and i've got payroll i sixty five thousand dollars this winter to join since not to mention hotels. Traveling he kneels mean. All these things were coming. Do i had payroll and twenty four hours if i grant not to count the travel expenses. So i'm flying on a marathon wit catch a flight him. I'm driving jay king frontier among literally driving through me. I'm on my own. I'm leader which is illegal in new york by the way But i'm i'm coronary anybody. That can call right to try to get some temporary funding. Who knows that hub. A sixty five dollars to provide temporary repre- for your your cash flow situation so we had some things in place in terms of resources. And i made it work and it was by the skin of my teeth. I made it work. But those type things when you're not prepared so that it doesn't allow you to be the best version of yourself into being the best pumping can be right. You're kind of find yourself in place of like. I'm some startup but i have real small business. Travelers are real business challenges. You kind of no man's land right so that's just one example. There's a again there's a. There's an abundance of situations just like that. The that's what we aim to conscious start of you rice. And we're focused on providing education and even people don't have been called a you like university because you learn this stuff in school don't need you could spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in green. I promise you there's nothing unique to learn. It's gotten better their entrepreneurship classes and clubs and stuff like that but there's nothing there mindset skills mechanics otherwise That are going to prepare you. For what oscar endeavor requires end or a unique able to use as an ongoing resource. Like a moon program as you are in not bill your company. What are the offerings that. You're you know. I know the premise is how to find the ninety and turn it into a business. But how how do you break down for for for somebody. Who's interested yeah. Saw flagship program started launch. Vac racist abuse the brain games on you by amazon. You buy the products aimed with sales rights of that's sort of union system brains of the company started launch factors are selectquote action in the ovary. Have right now in nearly takes you what i call a womb to tomb right so hard to come up with an idea how to your ideas is worthwhile to pursue people Idea because they think it's clever but there really is no merit has. No traction is no traffic for that. Particular search query great to analyzing competition right to figure out. What's your ideal client. Avatars to hear what you remarking should look like to building. A sales needs to building a landing patient creating a lead magnet all the way up until managing business partners hiring Naming wounded between we take you from the point of inception of this idea. We hope you actually come up with the idea all the way to probably making getting a first martyr customers right and actually making dissolved ground. So that's our flagship program. It is a is extensive. Let's you say that it's twenty five lessons each lessons twenty thirty minutes long. So it's hours and hours of content issue with the resources of it. I provided the resources that i use myself in addition to Three from bonus lessons at nine that program. So that's a. That's a a very robust cobham. We also have other programs continuity programs called startup. Looks so there's a lot of entrepreneurs better you know big into learning i'm looking. I've got a couple of my books. Are here marine great budget collins. We actually include nauseous. The read But also reading plans for specifically for busy entrepreneurs right he'd be on track but also coaching resources at provide insights weekly inaccuracy in addition to a live lecture at the end which is an hour and a half long which is basically me. Tony okay. Here's the knowledge but here's how it works for years plus the entrepreneurial right so that's awesome. We we provide for entrepreneurs. We have hundreds of members in the air that are reading every single month. Part of that program. I have another one on podcast by solanki using podcasting to build their business whereas degrade awesome. People make the mistake of building as a business. I think he used to build your business right so. There's a huge paradoxical difference between okay. I'm gonna make money from advertisers. Spas my podcast. What there's not a lot of money out there that is on the shoulder. Cain unless your job. I for everybody else. Even forty six thousand dollars. You can have a hundred thousand our business if you're using it in a way to as a marketing tool to build whatever business you already have existed. So that's the program that we have. I've called nonstop formula basic teaches. You man i him in a rut been in this place for six months. I'm not making progress. Revenues are stagnant or have revenues at all. What do i do so teaches you. Lee what i used to make sure that i don't find myself lewin stuck that i am constantly have not just here mentally right of length on kushner through this whatever but my actual mechanism that i use myself to make sure that you will get out of stock but who stay out of stuff. Continue to move forward. So it's there's a there's again. There's a plethora of different courses in all things that we have a near entities growing every single month. I'm in the process of creating a bio hacker. One right now. Asking to teach people the things i know about my about. My health journey can't build superhuman entrepreneurs which is part of the goal of what. I'm trying to do without making sure that these people are investing their health and wellness. So that's another program. We're getting ready to launch launching. You'll continue to see that historically and continues to grow and at some point will be on me. Right it'll be. I won't be the only educator. I will have multiple educators. Think you to or linda where you can go. You can find courses about whatever you want these going to be specific to entrepreneurs event. You have an app where you can actually just browse store a browse different courses and resources. There could be courses could be just whatever be connecting with a mental or. There's a million different directions. We can go with it. But it's going to be basically an online university or entrepreneurs continuing their learning knowledge. And hopefully we can back. Hundreds of thousand entrepreneurs achieve our goals out. That i'm hearing but is there any hand holding in terms of helping somebody like you said you know finding close of customers phones. Yeah so lot. So livesey is as you said is wrapped up in Self study programs however one of the programs in this is the first time i say this publicly But one of these argon watson realizes is some people require right. People they're experiencing growth is experiencing really really you really don't have time to sit down and go through a very extensive program modification little of growth. And you need instant feedback from somebody so one of these we are. Launching is my vip inner circle. Which would give you access to you herself. Or one of my other coaches is some is involved with need some way Wherever you group of ten mash marine where we're going to get real time right The ability to ask questions to somebody one of the people. I'm looking at my business coach and mentor. He's had several hundred million dollar exits with his prudential having access to somebody like that right for me as a game. Changer right is. It is increased mice my own ceiling tenfold. If not more so that's something that will be as far as like actionable group coaching. You continue to see more interactive ways to age with us. Also and i believe you have your own podcast as well do. Yeah so it's entrepreneur. Our podcast i will say. I don't know when this is going to be releasing the next. We are in the process of rebranding into the start of you. Podcasts for brand consistency. You you're going to see it either. Entre entrepreneur. our which was the previous names was army during the podcast. That was my first foot in the door to to my business This was before starve. Us even thought in my brain so now we just want to kind of keep things in uniformity so it will be started in castle currently. It's unfamilar our has medical hairs. Chris thank you so much for joining us today sharing your story. This is being very inspiring. Yeah story that you have and there's a lot of kind of resources looks like That people can have access to on your website. What will be in place for people to find you and the programs that you yes. Oh the first. Step in the one that i really recommend. We like the diagnosed people. I rise of you start a business. You're in the process of when you do so. I think the best thing we can do is help me in the right direction. Allow client is students that we come across we find is that they really jump into a busy and they built Business run their life and said oh life under business reis so what that means is the kind of said there in a prison cell built a brick and mortar when they really wanted the freedom of a lifestyle. Business like boone. Something online so we help you figure out what types of business are best suited for your specific avatar. so there's five different business types that we've created. We illicit businesses for each one of those that are conducive to your profile type so you gotta see 'em h. Days quays at c. m. h. as quiz dot com. You can take that quiz illiteracy taking a minute and a half if that probably six seconds to get through that we have an entire Pdf report you'll get as well as the is kind of covering that reports. So that's why i recommend you start against startup. You as get at moment you get something yet startup. You like university To check out our course offerings out. But i really recommend the assessment. I obviously Media at hey h hey like hello. Hey seem age of. But i also want to say And it received right and saying right. Yeah yes guys. Please please let me take thirty seconds all right. You don't understand how hard it is. And how much works required to run a podcast. Like regimes doing right. It is is a commitment. Is in many ways a sacrificed in this to serve you in the wizards doing so. So what i ask if you since he's bringing you all value. Please take time to subscribe to his show and also leaving five-star right. That'll help more than you recognize more than realize for him to get the visibility than he deserves for his time and effort to michelle. So if you do that for me. I greatly appreciate it off my friend regime. Thanks for doing that chris. Great hey before i let you go one takeaway for the business. Anything that you'd like to say to them men there's so many I would say the one thing. Is this Entrepreneurship is a lifestyle center career. All right so so a lot of things that i see without for news as they come in and it looks fancy. Look sexy and it. Looks like this awesome lifestyle and instagram. Social media ever really helped by people on the beach and doing this and smiling faces and buying fancy cars and this and that or whatever Have to know that. There's no doubt that that's an awesome motivator right. Not if that's what motivates you find that does not worry me. But if that's what motivates you fine but here but here's what you have to recognize is you. Don't turn off the five o'clock right. Check out go home and just turn it off right. This is a this is commitment you have to buy into the complete with this dicker toe in the pool right. It's an old merging head. I if you are. that doesn't. That's not for me to detract you. I want to have this life. I really do. I think more of us have this ability to to be self employed than maybe they realize. I want encouraging you and i hope you hope but have the right set of expectations inches. No this is going to require every ounce of you way more than you realize In and it's going to be worth it but it's going to be one of the hardest thing. I used to say the hardest thing that you'll ever do and then i had to be guatemalan parents and they've been married. They said well. I think marriage and kids have been hard and starting a business. I don't know i have been married. I don't have kids. I have no idea. But i will say as one of the hardest thing to do is to get a successful venture off the ground but it's also at least in my in. My experience has been the most rewarding suggest. No this is a lifestyle. this is not a career. Thank you so much for joining us. Chris and we hope to keep following. You hope to keep in touch. And i'm sure a lot of listeners with check out your website and new programs thank you very much. Hey i hope you liked it episode. Please do check out plan. B success podcastone. Your favourite listing platforms. It's also available on www dot plan. 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Baby Blues

How Men Think with Brooks Laich & Gavin DeGraw

1:29:48 hr | 1 year ago

Baby Blues

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The major leagues to Co host alongside Me Ryan that that sound. Good to you buddy. This was only a matter of time before for promoted in you. Know Gavin is not pulling his weight. He's not quite cutting. It luckily not here to defend themselves. So I'm here to step step up and be the face of this podcast. This is a performance driven. PODCASTS and management has done a thorough review of your performance lately. And you've come out flying so we've promoted you get to see if we get a test you on the first line here see if you can handle the big minutes nets and then we'll review after this show. I look forward to that but I'm super excited. You have your body. It's just you you and I are. We also have amy in studio with us an eastern here as well so super intimate group. Today you'll quickly find out why it's just the two of you and then and that's it and we're going to get into a serious conversation today a few episodes back. We did a topic around me asking questions of Fatherhood Author Hood and you weren't at that one because you're about to have your second baby and I want to know what fatherhood is like and now you've had your second baby and now we're GonNa do a deep dive into what what that is truly like. So can you give us a little back story here. How long ago was your second baby born? And and the what do you have boys girls just our listeners. Back a little context so our first son Turned to about five weeks ago. Oh and on that same week our second son was born so there are almost exactly two years apart. Our youngest is now five weeks old And it's exhausting truly exhausting it like you say as parents say like it's exhausting or is like can you. You unpack for somebody like me and amy that. Do not have kids by exhausting. Like what do you mean specifically. I have so many emotions. She's going through my head. I am look on the one hand. I'm like you the this is everything you've ever wanted especially when you go through the F.. It's like you made the conscious coach's decision to have another kid. We now have a second perfectly healthy happy son and that is everything my wife and I have always wanted on it now. What I've come to find out in the last five weeks is that it is man on man and it's dividing and conquering and I'm trying to work work? A full time job trying to maintain a marriage trying to keep my two year old happy and running around and keep a a five week old from getting sick from the two year old and a million things that it's like sleep is very minimal There is no social life. It's a lot like I'm I'm at my wit's end quite frankly like I'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown. I mean that seriously. Well thank you appreciate you sharing Karen first off. I want to acknowledge you and your wife just for being parents to me. That's that's something I yearn for in my life. I can't wait it's a it's it's something greater than any professional success or anything I could ever have. I really want to be the goals in my life that I had the big things in my life where to be a loving husband and a father other one day so I want to acknowledge you for being parents. I look up to parents. Have the utmost respect for parents. So that's why I want to ask you all all this stuff I want to learn. I want to try and prepare myself But when you say sleep is like almost non-existent can you unpack that for us. Like how much would you sleep a night. Statistically is typically I mean I I typically well. We slept trained our two year old when he was like three and a half months months which is pretty early but Up By ninety three we had him sleeping eleven to twelve hours a night and he's done that since three and a half months till two years old so we knew my wife and I that was our sanity. We knew at seven o'clock he was gonna go down after we. We began the bedtime routine like twenty of do the pajamas. Did the books talks to the teeth brushing all that. Put him down at seven. We retreated to the living room port. A cocktail glass of wine had our dinner watched our show like two hours of just us time catching up that was very important for our sanity and for our marriage. Yep now now we go through that same bedtime routine but one of us has to be holding a baby. WHO's you know not comfortable or hungry? They are tired or cranky or whatever while our two year old wants both of us present to be doing the full bedtime routine. He's now become accustomed to over the course of two years breath and we put him to bed finally and then we retreat to living room where we now have an infant a newborn who needs to be breastfed where my wife is trying to juggle like holding a plate of food while she's shoveling down the food and like it's just a million things going on that we never have time to kind of Mike decompress. There's always someone needing us to help. Keep them alive or put them to bed or feed them or whatever a and it it begins to wear you over a period of time and I would say is like I purchased from a pragmatic standpoint. I think which is like. How can we divide and conquer and both kind of not spread ourselves so thin so because my wife is getting up every hour and a half? That's that's the one thing with our newborn. He's great he's Great Baby Not Kalicki. Whatever he is needing to be fed the cluster feeding but like? He's he's going to be fed every ninety minutes for twenty four hours a day every ninety minutes and that feeding takes about thirty minutes to do so if you do the math sixty eight minutes in between Iraq and so we began in the in the first few nights where he was in what they call a docking tot which is like a little padded bumper many thing that was between the two of us in our king sized bed he would lay in there she would set her alarm or hear him waking up feed him and I was was on the other side of him waking up every time she woke up because she had to turn the lights on low and like begin the feeding do the burping change him that the whole thing is like a whole process where I was waking up every time she did I said to her. This is not efficient and it's just not it doesn't make sense so so I think I should sleep in another room so as to like have one of US getting sleep and then I'll pick up a bottle feed for the first feet so you can sleep and I'll do that in my room and vice versa right. Did you guys do that on the first child the first child we did not Well I eventually stepped in another room. Yes like after the first week or two because for the same reason which is like you're up. There was no reason for both of us to be up and she was like you had to go to work and you know now. There's no sense of both of us being up which I appreciated The other thing is like he's like you'll find that babies they're constantly like choking broke a little bit during their sleep or they're struggling to breathe through their nose and like I'm laying. There never fully asleep like is he. Did he stop breathing. Because doesn't sound unlike he's breathing and then finally like clears it and while the pediatricians like they have the best gag reflex ever like. They'll never choke they'll be fine. Your human instinct is you're laying there and you. Can I fully fall asleep right now or do I need to make sure my son is not dying. Well so then you're never getting that REMM sleep which as we know it was very important So here's where we go so I say okay I'm GonNa Sleep in the other room. We have a three bedroom house. Our guest room. I had to take the guest bed down before our new son was born and make that our second nursery. The the one bedroom is my first sons. Now the second guest bedroom has become the second nursery. So I don't have a guest bed in there anymore so I had to make a trip to Costco to get an air mattress that I've been now sleeping on for five weeks. My back is killing me. But I'm trying to get sleep and we gotta get rid of that air mattress. Where where did your mattress cool? That was in the the spare bedroom. The air mattress has a USB port though. It's an era who I'm amazed by that I can charge my iphone and cool. Did your spare mattress from your second bedroom. I had I had no I bill. I bought a shed and then had a hand are handyman guy. Come build it with his son and I paid more Labor Labor than I did for the frequent shed itself which drives me insane. But that's in the backyard now with the bed and the mattress and everything put away. You gotta go wherever so. This is my advice because I've slept here when I bought my house in DC. I had no bad I. The first thing I bought from my house was a set of drums and Matthew mcconaughey. I slept on. I slept on a inflatable. Like blow up matches for like a week. Because I didn't have a bad yet and I was like I was terrible. It was just awful then. I finally bought a bed and so knowing how bad I felt at that time. You've been sleeping on one five weeks. I'm coming over today to hit that stab that thing with a knife so so then you can't sleep on it and I'll hall your matches from your shed back into your house. You have to have a good mattress. We bought a day bed so we have a new criven there. We have a day for the day but will become my firstborns regular bed when he gets out of the crib but the mattress is super super soft. which is not good for my back? The answer this can we get your mattress from the shed into the house in place of where the melrose. There's not enough room. Yeah we'll solve the mattress problem. I don't keep going. I will solve that. We have tons of sponsors Casper we got the matter. Okay Casper are you listen. Casper get this man a bed so the other issue so my wife is like look she. We had a come to Jesus moment the other week where she was like Ryan. I gotta be honest like we. We have no connection or physical touch with one another at all. We're kind of like two ships passing in the night. She acknowledged that. We're both trying to keep these kids alive live. And we're doing the best we can but we're kind of like coexisting in many ways which is tough mentally and then The the flip side is like she's like I feel like you haven't been very present with the baby like I'm just being honest. I feel like you're not there with him like I'm he's constantly attached to me and like it's you wanted to have this kid just as much as I did and you're not really like doing much with him like which hurts and I said I get it. I actually acknowledged you're absolutely right that I'm not doing much with him. There's two reasons for doing so. The first of which is a my milk hasn't come in yet and I'm not lactating hitting so I have the I bet she thoroughly. She did how I said. I don't have the ability to breastfeed which you do and so I am looking looking at what strengths I have. What are your weaknesses? You're breastfeeding every hour. And I can take our our son our two year old out to the park Ark and like run. He wants to run around. The kids got so much energy like she can't do that so I'm with him all day on the weekends dividing and conquering so so. It's not that I don't love our baby it's really like I'm just trying to cater to my strengths. which are the ability to deal with a two year old? Who wants to run around and just like not sit still? Are you having issues bonding with the baby. A lot of men do I I do. I feel honestly like and it happened last night. Like when I I've now it's been more proactive in saying like let me hold him Especially because the two year old wants just mom to do so much that like that. She used to do that. She now can't so when I hold the baby he's never I don't know if it's a maternal instinct that I would obviously lack. But he's not I can't get uncomfortable like she can like position him in a way that like he can just like fall asleep and be comfortable. I don't have that ability so I am like constantly on edge and this weekend. She said to me she's like it's important for me to be able to like I'm in the House like twenty four hours a day. Sometimes like I need to be able to get out for my own sanity Andy so she went to Yoga and she did it when both of them were awake. Not when our two year old was napping and I had one onto and it was has severe anxiety like the baby was constantly crying the two year old wanted to do crayons and this and that want to go outside and play with the water table wanted to go to the park. I I can't do all those things and I'm like looking at the clock being like what time is yoga. What time she going to be home like? When can this end? So here's here's a question. Thank you for sharing buddy. This is this is this is real stuff like this is Brian's life going on for this might sound silly but I just I don't know what can you do with a five month or five week old as a man. Can you bottle feed it like you mentioned bottles. Can you do that multiple times. Can they only do it. Why okay I just don't know good question? So here's where we are you can. Yes you can bottle feed them now with this child. My wife is elected to not to pump her breast milk. Why because that one hour turnaround that you just mentioned that then becomes like a half hour because if you're pumping as well L.? You're spending another half hour to pump for a bottle of store the milk so you're getting even less sleep so she has elected that we do is to supplement climent one bottle a day my nighttime feed with formula. I have formula that I do at like midnight. I go in and give him that. That formula bottle now. The issue is I have said to her. I'm like look I want to help out. I'm happy to do this. And like sleep less and do the battlefield so that you can get like a decent chunk of time that you can sleep because mentally her thing is like she goes to bed knows I have to now wake up in an hour and a half or then. She's looking at the clock. I need to fall asleep now. I need to falsely bow which is like a vicious cycle because you then finally are about to fall asleep and you're like great I'm GonNa get thirty minutes and then you're up again and you can't function but the issue that I raised and maybe I'm a bad person for doing so as simply like I have to go to would a job at an office all day and that's not to say you don't have a job being home and like how like keeping these kids alive and doing everything you're doing. I'm not here to belittle that but I also have to go into an office and lead a meeting and go have like fifteen people in a room where I'm trying on a sell them on a vision or an idea and be charismatic. And like convincing and articulate and. I can't do that if if I am getting up. Every an only having four hours of sleep my body won't function that way and and by the way our livelihood depends on my ability to do exactly that so like without. If I'm inadequate in my job I can't pay for anything like our your know family here right we have no family at all no none in la. That can help. And Amy. I is my pseudo therapists. Ignored it though. You don't like help don't don't because then I'm not. This is where that comes comes up. I offered no you did. I realized back. Amy's Amy's my pseudo Shrank in that. Amy Her philosophy though is like just throw money at it throw money at it. It's like the night nurse thing is like anyone listening around the country outside of L. A.. Or maybe New Yorker now is like a night nurse like sack up you like. Let me bring dinner over for so that it's one less thing to have to deal with but you're very Hesitant to take help I needed. I also reached just out to him said. Can I help in any way with anything and our friend. Joe Smith he just had their third boy and I asked him same thing. Can I help with anything. He's like I don't know I don't Oh man just you shut me down. You said No. You can't help with anything because then I would. Oh you one and Joe is like I don't know anything helps and so I sent you a couple of hundred bucks on post mates so that he could just. You wouldn't have to make supper. His wife would have to make subregion just order something in times. you need to let people help wire you're a good would wouldn't even ask. They would just send brooks okay. You said send flowers that was actually respond. If you want something send me flowers have have you asked anybody during this The birth of your second boy these last five weeks. Have you asked anybody for assistance No Brooks will talk about this but you seem pretty emotional like let it out. What are you feeling about all this well like the other thing that my wife said to me and again this is not a knock on her? We're having these come to Jesus moments but she was like her biggest thing is she's like look from three am I am till six. AM every day. She's like I do the feed and he won't go sleep like she's like I'm holding him like I try to hold a pacifier in his mouth. He won't go back to sleep and she's like so I am up now like from three. Am for the rest of the day and she said the only way I can get him to fall asleep and we bought this thing called this. It's new high tech like rocks them in the crib and has like motion sensors and stuff. That thing doesn't work I hope. They're not a sponsor because if they are they're done but it's a complete joke so I mean that thing has like microphones ended that does swooshing noises and like if it. Here's a crying. It picks up the speed with which it rocks in the. It's a joke just putting the kid on top of the Dryer and the talking about right. Now I'll put him on the dryer But so she's like look the only way I've been able to get him to sleep is like if I put him on my chest and he's been falling asleep on my chest and like I've been falling asleep to but it's dangerous and I'm like well. Are you in the middle of the veggies. Like I mean as much as I can be I guess but like I'm like well he could. What if you crushed him or he fell off and she's like yeah so like it would be great if you help me out for part of that if you can and I'm like well I don't know if I can do that because then I will not be sleeping me and she said well as long as you're okay with you know the potential of him falling? I guess I'll just have him on my chest. I'm like so. Are you trying to like cover your basis here like I have to sign. Sign off now that if he falls off the bed and like onto the floor that there's like I've signed off or like because if that happens it's because I've elected to choose sleep over the well being of my son. What if you just put like blow up mattresses all around the bed? Here's a question for you with your first boy. Did he also sleep in the bed with you for five weeks or however long after he was born and is that if so is it now what is customary for a new parents. Who Does the baby sleep in the bed with the parents or does it sleep in? It's a different room now. Not like newborns really first few months wants you're definitely in the room a and B. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GONNA call him that that like had kids our kids sleeping with. That's very long. It was like for the first three months in a little padded thing where they just lay on their back and their swaddled. And that's just for ease of being able to like you're up so much that you just lean over and get them. We have a bassinet next to the bed as well. That's just not as convenience. There's no usually stay in the bassinet in the room for the first few months. BASSINET is just like a crib like thing. Yeah it's like a little oval thing elevated that you afford Lord help I to me. It just sounds like you need help. I understand that like but helped meaning having a night nurse that you're paying thirty bucks an hour our to know what about someone during the day. We have a nanny. That's the other thing. We have a nanny from eight thirty in the morning till two thirty in the afternoon that has been dealing that I have signed off on a midland all about from the very beginning from the time just before my wife gave birth to our second. We haven't any. That's there with my my two year year old son. Who takes him out of the House at eight thirty feeds him puts him down at twelve thirty and he wakes up from his nap at like two thirty and then my wife has two kids from two thirty until I get home? So here's a question to you. What would be the biggest thing that would help you guys right now? The biggest this thing would without a doubt be a large monetary contribution from the second. One with Casper are you listen. uh-huh how's your sex your as my sex life. I said it's like we are co-existing like it's it's tough tough and being affectionate or intimate or anything We after we had a talk about like even just like hugging each other. which again it sounds so simple simple but and I I was dreading this whole conversation because Brooks is GonNa sit here being like you need a sucker toes and make Phil loved but point being? It's like it's. It's easy to say that in theory now like as a Monday morning quarterback like oh you know you need to make time for yourselves and like tell her that you'll ever even if it's just one minute which I can hear Brooks about to say making me nauseous. No not at all. Thank you but it's just tough. 'cause you're just trying to juggle everything and and yeah I'm not and we need to be better but then we acknowledged that and we in two weeks. We're GONNA take the baby just the two of US away for two nights And her my my father-in-law's GONNA fly in from Denver and watch our two year old for two nights which is like from a mental standpoint. Something to look forward to is huge. Judge that's awesome And by the way no I have I have absolutely zero judgment or anything on that part of like the relationship part of this because even in my wife and I we we don't have kids But even careers can pull us apart. And I can't imagine having a two two year old and a five week old sleeping. You guys know how much I love sleep like sleep to me is everything and all of a sudden that's like destroyed for both of you guys is and then trying to connect on top of that. I can't imagine how difficult would be. And that doesn't mean that you guys don't love each other immensely densely just like the the factors contributing to lack of energy lack of like all of them. Here's here's the way through hell. Here's the other thing is that there's a light at the end of the tunnel. Utah that come. You touched on two things though you and I are alike in that and my wife acknowledged last week. I just realized like you. You need more sleep leapt function than me like and I do like I was used to like going from like nine thirty PM falling asleep till like six. AM and like. I needed that. Plus and then the the other thing that you love most in life is the ability to work out which I my routine up until the newborn was I. I would work out every morning before work and now I started for my mental sanity. That's a huge thing like sweat and work out and then you lose that because your sleep you have to prioritize over being able to work out and then the other times. I've tried to set my alarm for an hour earlier than I typically typically would get up to get my two year old up his breakfast on like now. I'm working out on like four hours of sleep and I. It sucks it it is. It's impossible yeah it's and you actually. You're half there you're not. You're just like trying to survive literally as what it feels like versus like. Yeah this makes me feel good. I feel I feel I manage. Is I feel energetic. feeling confident. Let's go to work boom. I'm on I'm dialed in at work. I can't imagine what that's like I'm really like empathizing here with you But good news is we have somebody. That's going to help you. It's not Gavin's not brooks oxen me. Yeah we're GONNA call her our family and relationship therapist Gavin degree to weigh in on what it's like to be married with two young kids. Let's get to our help for you. 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You're not going to have kids after this conversation but I want to acknowledge you buddy for being ron vulnerable because a lot of people would say oh having kids. It's just the greatest and that's just like that's all they would say but the point of this show is to dig in deep to men's emotions. What we really truly go are going through and so I want to acknowledge you for opening up and sharing that vulnerable area of Your Life Thank you I commend you And as as I said before the break we have some help here to assist you to help you get through this. It's not casper we don't have a bad common yet but we'll work on that. But we do. Have Dr Chris Taylor coming on a special guest. He's a licensed therapist. Chris is a nationally recognized expert on family issues having spent over seventeen years working directly with parents and their families. He's a highly sought sought speaker is also an author of the book back to basics to parenting program husband. Father this man can do it all. We're going to bring him on right now to help you out my friend. Chris are you there. Yeah Great Great. Appreciate you coming on. Got Ryan here ready for you Chris. He's a trainwreck Chris. He's a real hot mess. Chris correct when I hear firsthand. Chris can you give us a little bit and our listeners. A little bit on your background. I give you a brief intro there but can you tell us a little little bit more about your presence in this space. Yeah I mean I think you covered a lot of it in that intro Just working with families for the past seventeen years and just kind everything that goes into that I'm sure you've gotTA talk a lot before he brought me on You know especially issues being a dad Just the stresses and and Real Life Day to day struggles that we all go through and trying to figure out that kind of made of books what to do and then there's the real life of. How do you actually do do that? And I think what happens is most of the time. It's not in the book so what you do and you kind of pick up that manual and what you need to do is man. They're so Speak on these issues. obviously I do my private practice. Therapy with families are struggling with a lot of these things. And it's really my passion my mission so how to be on not got sick. I'm talking about somebody's thanks. Thank you buddy. I appreciate your time. You are aware of Ryan situation. All that's going on two year old five week old old trouble sleeping trouble connecting with his wife just kid two year olds running crazy. What advice where would you start with? Somebody like Ryan Ryan for any of our US listeners. That might have young kids like where would be the first place that you would look at in the scope of him and his wife's life. Yeah you know. It's a good question. I think you know especially as men. We always try to be the superman do it all the sixers Really what you have to start with yourself And Ask yourself like. Are you taking care of your own individual teams the human being before you can give her husband and those are really kind of basically do that right getting outside. How making sure your car? You're carving out some time to do things that you enjoy whether you know getting on the on the course and hit some golf balls or you know joining a bowling league kind of Cliche but just those things break free of that normal. Today today can be super helpful so that when we go back into the stress stressful situations we feel more. You know sort of recharge and able to deal with those stresses as calm. Can I just jump in if Ryan and excuse my language but have Ryan went to the golf chorus right now. His wife would literally be like my husband is a like he sucks. So how is he supposed to do that without her. Just blowing up the other interesting thing to that point Kris which I think is a very fair point especially with golf which is like a four hour endeavour but she she would be. We perfectly okay with me going to play golf. So long as it was reciprocated with her being able to go do whatever she wants to do for the same amount of time that I went to do it so what I would be thinking to myself would be the joy that I would have on that. Golf course. would be severely overshadowed by the misery. I would experience when I was alone with the two kids and having to keep him alive. Like it's not worth it to me. I'd rather be in kind of like purgatory where I'm consistently slightly miserable and not like no in the deep deep valley seriously is. Yeah no I I hear you and zone abilities to talk through those with your wife to just maim it is. I have this deal for my own personal enjoyment. Because I feel like there's a punishment that's GonNa come on the other side and it's hard because you're naming punishment as time with your family or time with your kids but saying that because I'm so burns around the edges right now that's what it feels like to me. It feels like I literally have to gifts gifts. When I'm in it just nonstop if feels like I'm under a tax and a half none of that time to really be president in any one area of my life so you know you just describing his auditory like you just did it super important? It's going to be hard for her to here but I think that realness and the authenticity is you have to go there. Otherwise what are you doing. You're just sort of playing a game and crushing yourself in the process. You know for your wife or you through your kid long run. That's going to be good for anybody. You one of our very first. How many think episodes you you touched on that? You said you had like man guilt anytime you went away on a business trip or a guys trip or something you said you couldn't even really enjoy yourself. You didn't WanNa come home home and say I had the best time ever because you felt guilty about it. Yeah I wanNA down play How good or fun? It was if I know that she wasn't having as much fun while home. But but on this side you're saying on this agreement Chris proposed she would also have this turn of for herself off so maybe at home during the time you're away maybe she was like juggling the two kids but she knows she's got X.. Amount of hours coming up tomorrow over the next day or something where she gets to go to yoga or meditation or have lunch with a friend. Whatever her chosen activity would be? I just know I would be on on that golf course. I'd be okay. We're on the back nine now. Were were around the band that much closer to me doing double duty with two kids. Like unstrained balls all over the place. Because I'm losing my mind what I'm about to be in for. Could you do four hours with the two kids. You couldn't pull it off. The I mean. Would they live yes I would. I be miserable. Yeah like I think once if the easiest thing for me and what would she my my wife typically does is she will go to yoga do whatever she wants to do over a nap for the two year old which is like a two and a half hour nap. I can man on man. I'm fine fine but it's having the two is difficult for me and and look credit to her because I'm away late at night for work or overnight somewhere for work work. She's doing both the entire time. You know doing the bedtime routine for both of them. So it's it is possible but maybe it's my inability to have maternal instinct or familiarity familiarity. Doing it so many times not as comfortable. Chris is it typical Ryan's not bonding with the baby. As much is that typical. He's is is much closer with the two year old. It's better relationship with my two year old but yeah. I don't bond as much with the baby Chris because I feel like I'm not as equipped apt to keep the baby happy as my wife so I choose to deal with the two year old who I know exactly how to make happy. Yeah I mean me. I think it's it's totally reasonable and very common that you would have that experience because we're not sort of built to bond at that time with incense in the same way that the mother is. I mean. Look at breastfeeding. Unless you'RE GONNA start trying to do that with your your in a whole nother ballgame. You're able to do and I think you know Dad's roles typically ads that play partner right at that. Stimulator of imaginary play of excitement is sort of outside stuff of adventure and not only comes online. The kid really starts to do more mobile active a lot of guys that I talked to you. Start talking about their fantasies of life when my kid is ten years old or when they're eleven years old they start being on the field or they can start being involved in other activities and that's where they really feel like that relationship is GonNa come alive and I think because it does become more of a relationship then were you can engage in communication. You can have those sort of deep down poor value talk and you know trying to bustos out with them that You know that we all has been Kinda I don't WanNa give to To our kids so and I think that's part of it too not guilty yourself and shaming yourself for well. Something's wrong with me. 'cause I can't there's my this is my child and it should be just a constant state of euphoria. I think you have to be wrong on. They know there's times when I look at that kid and I think you're the reason that the and my wife aren't close. You're the reason and I'm not getting my free time. And it's not that you're attacking your child or blaming it or wanting to feel towards it. It's just that you're being honest within yourself about what that deeper emotion really is. Yeah the other thing that I'm curious. What you think about is when I get home from work and it's you know there are times when it's like my wife has just dealt with the two kids and they've been a nightmare and she is at her wit's end fried and it's that that very common Situation where the the wife then you walk in the door and before you can put your stuff down. The baby is handed to you. And it's like I've been dealing with this all the baby now. You need to deal with it in my what I've said vocally is like I have just been at work all day and I also need a break so for me to come home after being at work all all day and immediately jump right into this is like. It's just it's daunting it's like when so then I'm constantly saying okay. Get to seven o'clock because that's when the two year old goes down and then you'll have a little relief but you're looking at the clock the entire day saying five live hours till seven o'clock for our seven o'clock and it's it's tough. Yeah and a and again I would say that the common experience you know. We think that it's just like the other side of things where we're just so happy in here. Let me help you and you go take a break and I can just but no you know. We're KINDA miserable. We feel like we lost that earlier. Part of our lives. We feel that we're never going to get that back. We look at that. Need for physical contact and intimacy with our wise and she's backing away from us because she's like I just need to retreat. Treat need to go take care of myself and your then stuck in that role like well either have to do everything and just fake my way through it or you know. I don't think there is kind of another man. They just do that. That's what I wanted to. I feel like it's the elephant in the room is do you have a lot of clients where this is. The man a on strays from the marriage. What do you mean by strays cheats? Yeah I think it's the stress of it because it's such a game changer for relationships and especially when it's your second you know you feel like okay. We've we've conquered the mountain right. We find the mountain tops. We got through it and then you're seeing actress light at the end of the tunnel right. It's like the water at the at the edge of the desert. And then you get to it and boom you add the other one and it's like this is never gonNA end. This is just going to be my life. I think all of that like replaying in like the single man syndrome that were like draft greener that all comes into play and especially when and there's a breakdown in intimacy. Sure you go to work for your the coffee shop and not attractive woman your smile from across the way. It's sort of like. Hey Wow somebody sees me for value you other than or maybe I should engage in this life different than and you know it. It can spread like wildfire in our minds because we're so susceptible Validation how do you bring back the marriage say me that that is not happening to me. Chris amy began when I walked into the studio today. By telling me I looked horrible arable so there's not in the country that has given me remotely look of anything. You don't look great. I'M NOT GONNA lie how it is a good thing in this case. It's working for his wife for sure. So how when there's hoop and diapers and breastfeeding and no one sleeping and all these things. How do you even have intimacy in a relationship with all that sort of it just sounds? Yeah Yeah it suffers. There's no doubt about it. I mean I think that's that's when you enter into the let's get a babysitter. Let's get a parent. Let's get somebody that can help us out at least just for a few hours. Get outside the house. Go on it. They get to know the person again outside of the nightmares feedings and the lack of sleep Even if I don't WanNA get dressed up and go somewhere nice. Can we just go fit somewhere away from this And then there's the sort of cliche rule of you talk nothing about kids talking about work right. You really treat it almost most like it's a first date and you try to stimulate that sort of romantic appeal. Get it that you go back into the house and you're back into that stress the breakdown it's still. There spoke with enough attention to each other. I think you can at least start to seeing on the emotional intimacy and you know over a little bit time. That's GONNA lead back to that physical intimacy returning hurting so There's not an easy solution for it. But it's giving you guys both permission to step away at the same time in nurture your relationship because without a strong marriage marriage and and parental units. I mean the kids are going to suffer. You guys are going to suffer. It's not good for anybody so I know that's deals comes back around and kind of tries is the bite you again. But it's like hey like what are we really doing. Are we trying to sacrifice literally ourselves in our marriage for our kids or we try to strengthen ourselves that although it charge me feel like we're sacrificing. The kids. Were really not because I think you know especially as kids get older. They need that breaks parents. Such parents need a break from them so I love that. I think that's I once told friends gave me advice once and I asked parents about this because I think it's I'm curious on how parents look at it We I was told when you have kids. Make sure that you put your partner. I because if you and your partner are strong the home will be strong in the kids. Kids will have a permanently strong home versus if you constantly put kids first Kid's first kid's first. The parents are going to drift apart. And maybe that leads. It's maybe it's not this year. Maybe it's not an extra but maybe it's a couple years down the road to a divorce or loss of connection or something. But I I've asked a lot of parents. This question and the answer is honesty. Our Lake fifty-fifty summer. Like no my my wife and I we put our kids first and some are like yes. We put each other. I and strengthen our relationship and kids are tough. They'll they're okay if they don't go to the park today or something but As long as we're strong the home will be Sean. What are you've which way do you lean Ryan? You have kids so actually. which way do you lean as long as we're strong it's not like you're not gonNA feed your five year old? They are five-month-old five week old. She's you have to do that but like I loved. I agree with with what you said Chris like. Do you agree with that as well. Or which way do you look at it. I do agree with it but like I'll give you an example. I'll be completely real real for second like we as just back up and we went through. IVF So when you go through IV F you cannot have sex over the course of IVF because you're being pumped with hormones. You're you're doing shots into your stomach with estrogen all sorts of stuff. So so you. You're not allowed to have sex because it's dangerous for there's so many follicles that are being stimulated your at the risk of having multiples. So you can't have sex so I I think we are in a position where that began a year ago where you go through a long long. IVF over a year ago cycle. Of like you lose lose that intimacy or sex part of your marriage. Bill per doctors orders legitimately and then you finally get pregnant and it was. He's a tough pregnancy. And you know my wife did not feel great quite often. And so when you don't feel great and you're pregnant you're not not really clamoring to have sex. And so then you go through that whole pregnancy. And then you give birth and when you give birth things happen where you have to be dormant again post childbirth so that everything heals properly and it's like you look at the calendar and that's a long run of a lack of intimacy for good reason and maybe Amy's going to tell me I'm making an excuse but like not that that really and and my wife and I just talked about it like that is tough to for a marriage and again like that was the cards that was dictated for us. 'cause we had to adhere to certain really tough but like that is very he trying and it's tough to feel like you're not just cohabitating and coexisting in a household when you haven't had the ability to be that intimate for other reasons. I just laid out so that weighs on both of us. It's a two way street like it weighs on us and that that is very tough for me. How would you go at that Chris? Just the the compounding founding the year long year plus long journey which lacks intimacy. How would you try and I mean you mentioned it about trying to get out of the house but how would you go at that a little deeper? Yeah I mean it's hard especially for men says we crave that you know not say that women don't particularly crave about physical closeness. I think you try try to achieve it. By other means you know in the interim with emotionally intimacy sharing vulnerabilities or something. But yeah okay got the two came into my mind like a little bit of sexting or something just a little something. Yeah I think you gotTa Keep it interesting keep it Kinda flirty thirty And be cautious about developing the resentments. Like what can't happen And try to focus on what you can do in the interim Physical touch obviously a lot of different forms. There's not just intercourse. I mean there's there's touch and you you when you when you say hello but I'm all for it and I think you have to have that conversation like look. I have these these. He's needs and if he needs to go on like it affects me emotionally And taking out risk to share that from that perspective and I would think that your wife like understands that and wants to be able to give that to you. Obviously she has those restrictions because what her body's going through and that's difficult for her but also asking her. Are there things that I can do for you. Physically that are stimulating indicating that you know we give you that sense of connection. Well liked him out Kris sucking toes. Just say now but we don't want to go down that pathway half we try it hey if you're if you're at a little stalemate here I see you try and Bahraini weird I question so if you're not allowed to have sex during IVF breath are you allowed to have You know what other stuff the a word like the woman allowed to have an orgasm. Yes you're now you're not. Oh you base. Yeah we're basically just turn off like he just like let's. That was that leads to my next question. Chris I want to ask you because I agree. You can try those things are. Is there also just another side of this where you just say. Hey this is a stage of life. Let's just battling Adeline grind here by the time. The kid is four months old. He's going to be out of our bed and and less just You let's just champion this. It's not that much further like. Do you ever just resigned to that or you just or do you try. Keep working at trying to build this intimacy and keep that present knowing that you're in stage you always gotta be working at it. I mean you can't sort of ever admit defeat. This is just the way it's going to be. I mean I think if you do go through those periods because obviously in any marriage there's GonNa be rough patches that you do a good job of communicating through it of what the real deeper feelings are. I mean maybe even things come up for a lot of US around rejection abandonment. You know we lean into a partner and we want that moment of connection and they're tired or you know they're frustrated about the kids and they pull away. We can feel that from a personal perspective of you know they're rejecting Jimmy because of me In kind of lose track. So if we're even going deep you know emotionally and from place on our ability in that way to share. Hey you know. I'm feeling really rejected. I know it's not necessarily doing that to me but but this is. This is my emotional experience. I think those things can really bring couples closer and try EH. You Know Bridge those times where you know. Maybe it is six months a year or two years where there's just maybe not much if any of you know that sort of sexual connection action But I would never want a couple to resign sue just while we're just GonNa Kinda give up for the next four years and that's not going to be a part of it because it's talking end well and we all know that and one of the things you've said Chris. I agree with that I would see I have a counter for you which is me being completely real which you said look obviously doctors can dictate the inability to have sex for for medical reasons and all that there are other ways and things that you can do you. You said that I can go to my wife and say like look. Here's what I'm lacking. Here's what I need. I know we can't have intercourse but like here's what I need and what I missing thing and I had that conversation and we had that conversation and she was completely receptive and like was appreciative. That that I came to her and said that and wanted to help and make sure that we connected on some level and the issue became as she felt. This was during pregnancy. She felt so awful that in my head. I'm like you know what who am. I like I'm GonNa while she's feeling like she's GonNa Puke all day like I'm I'm GonNa come say like I have needs here are my needs like you need to help me with my needs. It's like I feel like that is a pretty selfish thing for me to do so. I'm sitting back saying you know what dude screw your needs like. This is a period of time. She feels like crap respect that and don't be demanding and asking her laying out your needs like this is not your time to do they give you another side side on that. It might make her feel good to fulfill your needs. I'm just throwing that out there and like we had that like that happened but it also it it just just like a process of like it felt transactional and that. She felt so awful that I knew that it wasn't like she was like really excited. I could give you some other ideas off air great to go into that second level of like sharing that other other experience with what you might think she's thinking through that process and auto suming that you know sharing it with her and see what she does without additional information And also like it's not a demand right. It's it's just you're putting it out there from a need perspective but as like mature adults we have to be willing to hear the word no and sometimes she may say yeah. I can't do that for you. And then that leads obviously to a different type of conversation as far as the feelings that come up and you know more about audibility should come out in those situations tim so that at least again when it's not physical can strengthen the emotional intimacy Chris we only have a couple more minutes left with you but I wanna I wanna ask you one almost one final thing so what I've listening to you. Hear what I've heard you say it sounds like you're saying communication through this whole thing is paramount What other do things for Ryan and for our other listeners? That have young kids that are going through the same thing. What are some other things that you say? You really need to pay some attention or some focus is on these sorts of things individually and within your relationship some time apart some time that makes you happy communication between partners. What other things things should Couples be looking at and paying attention to in this stage of life. Yeah I think just really being cautious about entrenching ourselves into negative thought patterns right. We'll we'll experience this flood of emotion and knock becomes a reality that then we well sort of live at and you know. Emotions aren't status status to try to find ways to enjoy fatherhood. Try to find ways to just break free with that older child. Go to the park for your even if it's just ten fifteen minutes and it's to really focus on building on and doing something that's emotionally uplifting with kids Because I think oftentimes we focus so much on ourselves on our spouse on the stress stress of it that we don't leave a whole lot of time for fun And then you know as men engaging other men in their experiences as well not feeling alling like we have to pull back and remove ourselves from just sharing that this is hard and it's overwhelming at times and there's times where we're just not dark room modern modern. He's broken down asking ourselves. What did we do how this happened? And then that's okay but there's no shame in that doesn't mean we're a fad person or a bad data. That husband husband were were being human women do that all the time and men don't do that as much. I don't think yeah men feel that's wonderful. Wonderful advised Chris Yeah men feel like and I feel like there's and I don't even have kids but that whatever happens in our family like I feel ultimately responsible support for it. which sounds like you like you just bypass on your needs because your wife is not feeling good so you like just push it like how? Who Am I to ask my wife to make me feel good? When she's he's not feeling good so I think men in general and not saying women don't but men in general have that like they'll sacrifice almost anything and that it all comes? It's not all but at the end of the day they feel so much What's the word I'm looking for is it? Is it pressure or just responsibility ability to like really move the family through life like obligation. I think men feel that older viz imperative but but I think it's I think it's I think what Chris is amazing to say like Like men can admit defeat and be like like I. I don't know I'm I'm busted down right now like I I need help. This is what's going on and allow your wife that chance to step into that and support you and it's something I've done in my own life off lately. I've never done this in my life and probably the last two months. There's been times where I've really asked my wife like. Hey I'm really struggling with something right now. And and she's really stepped up to the plate and supported me. And it's been it's given me like a hundred times more energy and helped me amazingly the rest of the week the rest of the the month. Whatever it is Ryan you need to pay attention to that because brooks is a man and he's willing to ask for help you have a real issue asking people to help you? I fell asleep when Brooks talking so Chris. We'll let you go but Ryan doesn't like to ask for help. He doesn't want to let me help. He doesn't WanNa let Brooks help. He doesn't want to let the neighbors help he. He just doesn't want anyone helping because he feels like. He owes them something but I think he's doing himself a real disservice. Yes I get that I mean I think just I'm ecstatic Stan. You know us as men we all have that at different times and there's only one way to get through it and you just gotTa get over it and move forward and just say hey either either I break myself down and wreck myself emotionally and physically through this process or I do. The thing that I know is going to help me. And you kind of have that call out gut check moments yourself and then you just move forward and and start asking for healthy start naming the problems and you know not always have to have the solution either just naming the problem sometimes can be just that freeing sort of relief. He's from you know holding onto it so I know it's hard but we have to all is meant for each other to move in either direction. Well Chris I'm GonNa take this opportunity to ask you to help babysit if you I'll give you my address fair and look it takes a big man to ask for. Help takes a bigger man to offer their help. So thank you in advance for offering the young offering for babysitting tomorrow tonight. Twenty five minutes Chris. You're the marriage is the line but Chris you're the man we appreciate you so much for our listeners. That WanNa find you find more about you. Where where can they find the book? And where can they reach out and connect with you. Yeah books on Amazon. So you can just do a google search for for back to basics and it'll pull up And then my wife website is just Chris Taylor. NFC DOT COM. So they can go on there Find a lot of automation. Awesome Buddy. Thank you very much. I'm going to keep you on speed. Dial for when I have kids someday but I thank you so much for coming online and helping Ryan out here and in Ryan I wanna dig more into this. This help thing after the break sounds get. Thanks Chris. We talk about it all the time. We're not afraid to discuss our bathroom habits with you guys. 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Been One of my favorite podcasts Ryan. Just I think he's turning to cocktail this to survive this. Yeah I mean I I just looked at the clock and I'm like what by the time I get home. It's cocktail hour. Is that how you're coping we should. We should have had some like bourbon here for any alcohol. All you want some dry I wanna I wanna I wanNA unpack this story a little more buddy thank you. I can acknowledge you enough and say thank you for orphan up because I think a lot of people in our community can resonate with and and they hide their feelings. Say Oh having kids. It's great it's great it's great. Here's the raw unreal unreal behind having a kid and that was the purpose of this show when we start. We said we're going to be raw authentic organic genuine. And you're giving absolutely vulnerable will sharing open in your heart to our community and hopes that this help serve the community so just want to acknowledge you again buddy. I would say you feel guilty when when you when you are vocally discussing how miserable you are for something that you fought so hard to get which is is a first first and second kid going shelling out tons of money putting my wife's body through everything you feel guilty like I'm miserable. It's like you you know. Oh you went through to get to this point like this is everything you wanted to such is life. You work your ass off to get the job you want the complain about it. That's okay also I I want to touch on what you said about how. It's been like a year long sort of journey of a leading toward a loss of intimacy because the IVF thing my wife. And I have been through it and it's not like I've just ends after two weeks or whatever and then boom. Hey we're right back to it like there is a couple month hangover from that. where she she still doesn't feel good? It's it doesn't just end an okay. Life is back to normal like there is a drawn out period. And then if you're pregnant you go right into that that you know and then it just gets compounds and compounds and compounds so I think that's super important as well which you mentioned in just to to empathize with you as well well like. I know what we went through but we didn't get pregnant coming out of it but But so are you acknowledging that they had a similar experience with respect to your what is now a very vibrant sex life that you have was that impacted not a perfect sex life. You tell them no but I'm curious doesn't does now. We're going to talk about it more next week. Give them a little tear extremely happy man. I'll say that but yes I will say at at that time. Yeah there was that was new to me too. I'd never been through. Ivf we both of us. We had no idea what to expect. It's it's amazingly difficult Colt on my wife's body and what she's going through and at the same time you know you do as a man you you do still want a sexually connect Padang like like she just feels feels terrible. Yeah like let me just like get like thank you get on. Yeah I an and it carries on for months after. Yeah Yeah and it's difficult and we had to work to like rediscover you discover and and get our sex life to be back as a vibrant part of our relationship but that is helpful for me to hear because you know it's easy in theory to say like. Oh No no you just say I have. I have needs like no. You know like crap like screw my needs. I'm here for you right. Yeah that's what you did to because you love your wife and I I love my wife a two. So you're you're a guy. Just yeah what do you need like I will table anything pat. I told you that correct but women like that too so there are times when they might get a lot of pleasure out of giving pleasure. Yeah Yeah at some point somebody has to make I move back into the space up. You know and that's a soft little dance that you figure out but yeah we did have a similar trajectory. Anybody else that's been through Dr Youssef. I would bet probably has because it's not like you just do that L. K.. Fourteen days boom. Here we go. We're back at it yeah. It just doesn't go that didn't for US anyway So I want to dig into something Which is this question for you and deeper than just like the surface answer like what is it? Why is it it that you are unable to receive help like really what is it? It's a good question region. I I mean look first and foremost I would say maybe this cop out. Because I don't have family here like I. I think it's easier to accept help from a family member because they are your blood they are your family that is what family is four and yes your arguments could be. But that's what friends fourteen fair. Yeah so like family. Because I don't really have family neither my wife nor I have family in Los Angeles we now don't have that ability to just say. Hey Mom Hey dad can you just come over while we go out like that's out the window and so then you're left with friends. Many of whom almost all of whom have their own kids right so like the the grandparents thing is great because they they're retired and like their grandkids. Grandkids are their lives and they have nothing to do or don't want to do anything but help out and be with their grandkids. Like it's a it's killing two birds one stone because this is exactly what they want spending time with the grandkids in like. They're also helping you in the process whereas a friend would be kind of being put out by offering during their help and having to now take on additional burden when they have their own work life balance that they're trying to journal so I think that's the biggest reason why but what if if they are actually like in a really good spot where they're like life is great man. Oh you're struggling. I've buddy I've been there. I know what you're going through. Hell can I help. I told you I wanted to send inner over. I would I meant it. And you're like ignored me and brooks offered helping ignored it. I think I told him to send flowers to the STREP. Throat Awareness Fund staff. I think it's fair what you're saying about the family because it is much much easier but I do think it's only two more months that it's going to be like horrendous. So why don't you let everyone help you know. Look we've had a few people that have sent food and that was really nice. But like if I'm being honest like the food thing is really nice and generous and appreciated. But like I'm also that that's you're giving me money basically because I have a I have post mates new breeds and everyone wants to be home cooked to and then you have leftovers. And the whole thing we're not sending Over AAA although chipotle is delicious I been getting it every Sunday. It's pretty amazing. But I think you need to let you can. Don't tell them over and help with the kids with the watching the kids and the taking the kids. Yeah here's the deal when you have a five week old like you can't really leave. You can't leave because you you need to be breastfeeding the kid every hour. So yes like but but so you're never you're always going to have that baby there and that's fine and like I guess but I guess did you see I guess I'm just saying it's like it's great in theory. No we'll watch no. You can watch one of the kids but it's better than zero. Oh Yeah I guess you. You've said it like two weeks from now you're father-in-law's flying in your so looking forward to just having one like like even just that mental work because we're getting out of town to we're GONNA stay in a hotel and like just like yeah we're gonNA watch movies and it'll be you just a change of scenery mouse stuff that if the mood strikes wait I have an idea. Can people call. Can you give the number eastern so people can call that have been there and maybe their little secrets are tips. That we don't know or they can always email us at men at iheartradio DOT DOT com. Houston we give the number. Take your time they still deserve. Give Gavin sell just case. Is there or anything else going on Ryan that we don't know like almost everything force but is there anything that we have a few hours or are we on time time I'm tell this. Yeah I'll I'll wanting to exactly what I know him. He wants me to watch. Which is we have a twelve year old Yorkie Yorkshire terrier named Gusts that we've had forever by wife at Gus when I met her gusts had an incredible life if when he was an only child quote unquote then the two year old came into the world not as a T. Rowe but as a newborn But but with the first kid came less attention for gusts less walks less petting less everything. And you're a dog guy so dying to hear what you think about all this by the way happy. Belated to your birthday to Kota. Thanks Buddy following. Your stories is nice to have a break from the workouts love and so then the newborn calm uh-huh and gus becomes even more territorial than he was before where like he is now fighting almost literally for affection and like sees these two babies a toddler and a baby as threats to his livelihood and his attention and so he his life if his suffered and we basically have this come to Jesus moment the other like a month ago. Were like you know what this is. Not Fair to gus like. We don't something we don't love him anymore more. But we just don't have the bandwidth to be dealing with two kids and also giving him the affection and the attention the walks and all the things that he used to be accustomed to so so we had what some friends have dubbed to be a very selfish moment where I would argue. It's a selfless moment in that. We we went onto onto an adoption site to try to find a new home for gas when he's lived with us for twelve years found a woman who lost her husband three years ago. Who is seeking companionship? She's lonely like she saw his photos. Online fell in love with him. Made her background on her iphone. His photo the minute in it. She saw it before she even contacted us. which was a little weird in retrospect So so we interview her over the phone and she's like asking all the right questions she's just like doesn't have kids can just be one on one with him. We're like you know what this is. Perfect she drives an hour away to come see us. We meet her like okay. Yeah we're GONNA GIVE YOU GUS. We give her August the bed the food everything she goes home for the past month. Gus has been living with her and she's texting US saying. Oh my God. He's everything I've wanted wanted in my life. He's so amazing like he sleeps with me. You know all these things until last weekend on or last week on Friday my wife gets a voicemail and this woman is like seventy years. Old like most mild-mannered. Like polite person and she is aggressive on the voice mail and says Gus has turned earned on me. I don't know what has gotten into him. But he nipped at my friend and he does not like strangers and he mouthed me and I'm like what he mouthed stuff stuff yeah like at least one of us is doing mouth stuff and so I'm like okay. And so she calls us and it's like I need to drop him off. I cannot deal with stress. I'm done with gusts and we had like finally turn the page where Gus brought a lot of stress in our life too because a our two year old was chasing him around him with like plastic golf clubs and he was miserable quite frankly and then he like when the two year old would go. Oh down then there'd be a ups guy outside and Gus Bark and wake the two year old up like I'm ready to lose my frigging mind with gusts. No offense gusts so finally we get rid of Gus. And and it's like he's off to greener pastures with the seven year old woman who's like filled the void of her dead husband and now all of a sudden the tide's turning gus is coming back and on Saturday. They agreed this frigging woman out at the curb. Because I don't want her back in my house because I'm so pissed off at her and she's like here he is. This is really upsetting for for me. And I'm like yeah okay. Where's the bed in the trunk? Just pop the trunk. I can carry the trunk the bed in Mindanao. I got it. Well this is really upsetting for me and I told my wife like you know what I'm GonNa tell her right before I walked outside. I said I'm going to tell her. Oh I'm so sorry that he attacked your friend in mouth you in in light of the fact that he's been so vicious towards you and your friend I've arranged for him to be put down to me and my wife was like lost her mind on me like I will not talk to you the rest of the weekend. Are you seriously up through argue serious. And I'm like no. I want her to have to live with the fact that she believes. I'm not going gotta get it put down but I want her driving back. An Hour Palmdale thinking because of me I. This dog is now lost his life. I want her to live with that. I did not do so to preserve my marriage but I wanted to and instead I gave her the cold shoulder I took. I took the bet I walked inside and now he's back at home barking at the Goddamn Immu. PS driver we get the service back on the line producer. Tori can you take gus and my wife can't breastfeed on the couch because he's jumping up on her and we're and what are you gonNA has has a woman reached back out and said hey sorry I was wrong. I want gus back. No she. Hasn't she was probably scarred. By the way I treated curbside but fine so now back to this this like adoption site where I'm reviewing you don't have any friends that could take gus. Well here's the thing of friend this this weekend says I tell him the story he's like. This is unreal. He's like his wife calm. Seas Tells Steph the story I tell the story Steph. This morning I get a calling away. And he's like you're not going to believe like three kids he's like. We promised them that we would get them a dog. If they good grades on their report card they have steph keeps talking about how she wants to get gus. We weren't going to go buy a dog from a breeder like we. If we'RE GONNA deal we're going to adopt but like gus like a dog like I know you I trust you like are you like what do you think he's like. I don't know if I really want this to happen. But like the kids do like the universe give him go so he he goes but I would just ask if we have to go away for vacation this summer. This or that you would take us and I'm like yes. Yes here's the deal. I don't don't want a family. That has kids because he can beat like we don't. I don't know how he's going to be and I don't WanNa live with like another person that three weeks from now causing caused problems that aren't totally totally create problems. That aren't yet real. I would rather find a single person who was gonNA devote another person. I have twenty five applications that I'm sorting through as a second fulltime job with like all these people asking me a is a non hypoallergenic and also Frat so let me let me so I won. My heart breaks that you are at the point where you need to give gus away because I know how much dogs mean to families. So that like. That's not an easy decision for anybody. Listen to the things Ryan his wife. Just give this dog away. No that's not how it happens. It's it it actually brings validation to how much you guys are going through at the moment that you would even consider that and go through with that and I also love that you said like you WanNa find one person. That's going to dedicate their life solely to him. That just means that you love the dog so much but you have have a friend somebody that you trust who has three kids. That really want this dog. I mean that could be amazing for us and amazing for the kids. I said to him Mike. Let me give you an analogy. This is like if I if you bought my car off me the whole time you're driving you're like yeah no the Carlos Grad. I trust you your great three months. Maybe six months from now car needs a new air filter. Anita new catalytic converter. You're on maybe like do do the car you sold me needs a new cadillac convert. I'm like look gus needs teeth extractions. He's a Yorkie. They have teeth issues. He's had extractions that's going to be issue. He's also so twelve years old like you may get three or four years out of him but like he while he's been in perfect health up until now as the case with human beings you're going to start to see more ailments in his later years in life and if you're going to be upset with me that discussion to have that discussion laid out. This is what you're taking on when you take him he's going to say okay. You sold me a lemon. No He's going to say okay. I got it I agree. I shake your hand as a friend. We're taking this on. He's a member of my family. Do you. You're not even giving him that to you. Gus I would love to host gus for like a weekend to help you in. You're not a dog person. I know write letters. I'm not a dog doc. person you should be I now. I think it'd be. I think you should take us for like a weekend. I'm not taking us. So where do you think. Let's wrap this up but he where do you think all of this is going. Where how're you doing? This helped it at all. Like what do you think your next step is one. We gotta get your mattress yet. HAS TO HAP- yeah go home. Take a knife to that blow it matches stab that things are. You can't sleep on it. I think mouth stuff would do wonders for the both of you. I'm not kidding. I know I'm sounding funny but like I think you need a little time. Yeah you may never see me again view. This is my final farewell. Well at least you got to co host feel better America. Thank you for listening. It's been nice knowing you. I think we should do this again. In view months though polling there because I think things are going to be a lot better in a couple more months when the baby's sleeping I there's been agree once we get to the phase where he's sleeping through the nights which we were able to do a three and a half months with our first. Then we're we're in the a clear if we can have our evenings that's all that's all I want to be able to like. Put both kids down. Go have a drink talk about her day. Watch shark tank and got a bet. I love what he said. I love Chris said when when you have that alone time with your partner that you don't talk about the kids and work that you like date each other again. I thought that was brilliant. Brilliant what's like from this whole discussion today. What's one thing you're gonNA take and go and implement or try and make a change in either your life individually or your relationship with your wife like? Is there anywhere where you've listened today and you're like yeah it's two things the first of which it is Chris alluded to the fact that I don't know exactly the worst us. But basically that negativity is kind of like yeah the gets negatively negatively and it becomes a vicious cycle of sorts and and my wife and I actually this morning acknowledged that because it's become kind of like a competition competition for WHO's more miserable who who had to deal with the worst amount of stuff so like first thing in the morning when I'm out there. Dead like chugging in double espressos making Jude's waffle which I can only give them two days a week now because he expects a waffle every day and he loses his mind what is not a waffle which I'm losing my mind oxycontin tests this morning. DidN'T WANNA eat. It's like I'm supposed to prove a point to you that you can have a waffle. Every day of your mom told me to do this anyway but in negativity is like my wife will come out and she just like it's like an. It's a thing where she comes out and he's like he was awake from two to six and I couldn't do this and I'm exhausted. I'm I'm like yeah well I got out to the bottle. And he wouldn't take the bottle and like now. I gotta go to work and then I have this meeting today and that meeting. And so you're kind of going back and forth. Be like one upping each other for misery and I think we need to make it conscious decision to be like and my wife said to me like we have a short week in a holiday a week this week. Christmas is coming up my favorite holiday like let's just go into it with a positive attitude in like deal with it and be happy and try to see the positive little and just laugh. If I were with funnier people unlike yourself I would laugh more but I'm not the second thing was truthfully. I believe genuinely that. I've taken from this. 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Amy Offered Medicare Endorsement + Eddie Drops The Family Fish

The Bobby Bones Show

41:21 min | 2 years ago

Amy Offered Medicare Endorsement + Eddie Drops The Family Fish

"Your buddy and Matt miss the bombing. Transmitting cross. Bobby? Right. The restaurant business because of their all you can eat. I did. And so needs food. Yeah. They're like all you can eat Chinese food. And so they went bankrupt eight thousand dollars in debt because they let customers sign up for a nineteen dollars a month membership for unlimited food. That's dumbest thing ever. All you can eat a one mill like I get that. I'm about to get my nineteen dollars one meal. If you let me go all you can eat for a month. You better charge me a hundred bucks. They didn't think that through. And so now the eighty thousand dollars so they went bankrupt wipe it all away, but they're done the owner sites poor management business knowledge for their loss. That's one way to put it. Yeah. I mean who thinks that's a good idea a month? Twenty bucks a month to eat all that's a meal. You know? Yeah. Crazy. I saw that and laughed out loud. I shouldn't. I should. I think about like the clientele. Like, what do you think they looked like afterwards month of eating one thousand nine hundred a food have to do with anything? No. If you every night of Buffy, you are going to get a lot of weight if you're gonna get your money's worth. No. I didn't think the clients on how they look he did the. So our video producer producer Eddie who sits right to my right kids. Video guy data to from Texas producer. Thank you. Tell us about ice ninja the fish. Oh, man. I almost lost ice ninja the other day. I hear. Yeah. His bowl was getting really dirty says I'll take care of it up clean it out and south trying to get him out of his little bowl. And he slipped out of my hand. He led to the little fish flip. And then down the sink. Oh, not just anything the garbage disposals think and silent around. Nobody saw its I stick my hand in there. And try to see like I can get them. I can get my hand can't go down there. How long has ice ninja the fish bend your life about a year? Wow, long. Oh, yeah. It's a beta fish. They last forever. And it's junior juniors fish four. Yeah. He's four years old, and he loves that fish. And so I made sure that he didn't know that he was down sing. So I got my other son the ten year old. Hey, man, you've got a little hand held me out see down there and see them get him junior. Save the day he grabbed ice ninja. And we do them back in the ball. He's okay. That's awesome. I was preparing. I gotta break it to be like I lost ice ninja. We lost in the family. Fish is gone is his name that for why. I don't know. No junior junior. He just looked at him one day. I want that fish, and I'm gonna call him new. Jim we rolled with us. Go get another look alike ice ninja. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm feel part of parenting is to let them know boy life and death already four four just like, you know, I was ready for all that. But thank goodness. My ten year old son came and save the day. So we have not lost the family so worried about I that's on your face this out of your fun name though to. Yeah. I have also have a gecko named Jumanji dog named Coachella. We have very unique names for our pets the kid's name all them. Not Coachella already had her name. We got her from the pound, and I guess her pass owner was a festival goer. So the ice ninja made it through. These are orchestra versions of popular songs, for example. Baby meant to be. Round with. Amy ready? Yeah. The first one is a country song you get the clue ready number one. Name the song. Taylor. Sorry. Love store. Lunchbox? Yep. Country all my wheelhouse. It's a cover. Okay. I don't know who covers what he go. Did you hear the song? Yeah. Meal. That's a good song. Governor what is that? Yeah. President Roosevelt loves it. One of the best. Sitting in on a hip hop song. Oh, my wheelhouse. Got it. So it's like. All right, Amy. And I mean, you missed daddy points is that I got another one governor try this. Uptown funk. I heard it. I knew that one might turn to you're doing victory lap. Okay. Call digger to orchestra version here you Eddie. Sung by the white stripes. I missed the whole governor thing, I'm confused. Sounds like from the day. I got it. But again is a little stretch stretch. Done. They're so cool wall more hear you. Maybe. Anyway, she say do you love me? Tell. My bed and my mom. Yeah. I'm gonna show those kids, and I guess I lost. Well, I wouldn't bring this up at Amy brought this to my attention in a loving funny way. And that Amy has been offered an endorsement where she comes on. And she talks about a product that she knows about in. Listen, I'm wanted to an endorsement unless either love it use it or someone close to loves it or uses, but Amy was approached about endorsing Medicare Medicare now, we're all well, most of us here. I think if you're the way you're set up, we're all putting money towards absolute Medicare, absolutely. So I guess her point wasn't about the endorsement as much as it was that you're offered Medicare and Morgan is offered lingerie. Difference. Yes, we'll say life right now, my dad's seventy seven has some health issues. I'm learning a lot about Medicare actually like he was able he was in the hospital almost sixty days and thank you Medicare. Like, it really is helped us a lot has nothing to do with Medicare. What's that to do with everything to do with me getting Medicare and Morgan number two? Getting lingerie just things that I'm approached with now like I'm now the geriatric person on the show was really considering my age, we we've been talking about what if I were to get pregnant kids like I would have geriatric pregnancy. Like, I'm the oldest person on the show, female wise old. I'm thirty seven do look wonderful. Like, no, no BS fantastic. Well, thank you. I wanted to say that you do you absolutely could pull off thirty. Thank you. That's nice. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah, I've been doing things like justifying the Medicare thing in my head. Maybe that's why I had the whole held dad's story of my head. 'cause I'm like, how can I relate to this and make it work? And I mean, I really feel like I can. And I look forward to benefiting for Medicare one day. But like nobody's coming like, you know, the the young son. So yeah, I've I've yeah. I just if I know my role I'll get in that lane. And I'll just go with it. You're not the woman. You're just a mom. You're awesome. Cool. Mom, who's thirty seven in. If Morgan wasn't twenty four you would be doing lingerie Medicare. Doing lingerie you'd be wearing lingerie would do while doing a Medicaid commercial? Number two. Is this awkward situation? No, I just I feel bad. I don't want. Anyway, because she's so not like that is not how view heard in any way, we've talked to the girls on the show, and they do they are nice and say 'cause you've asked them is Amy more of like, a mom figure or sister figure, and they all said older sister. So Morgan twenty four and she does what did she say Pani Pani Amy does Medicare and you say calcium? Good though. Mahar? You're the best. Now. I'm good. I'm good. It just you know, the Medicare thing guard. I was like, okay. And then you know couple of weeks ago. I had that one. One Email where I that sales people attach me, and then it mean to and I could school down and see the threat, and they're like, you know, what about Amy from Bobby bones show in the next reply from somebody else was like looking for somebody a little younger. Adding up, but I mean. Yeah. Sometime with it. Sometime with it. Sounds like. It's time for the good news. So track down a nurse who helped her as a child when she was fourteen years old, she had a spinal tumor, and she spent four months in the hospital for treatment and one of the nurses who cared for her. During your stay made such an impression on her that now at forty three years old, she searched for her and finally found her thanks to social media. And us just like two thousand people like re tweeted her, you know, her trying to find her, and then yes, she was tracked down and to just like one of the hugger and thank her for everything. She did when she was in the hospitals child. That's a good one there. That was tell me something good. Show down head. This story comes from Everett Washington forty three year old man saw someone break into his neighbor's garage. He's like, oh, I'm gonna go out and bust them pulls out his taser and goes to confront the man and actually tasers himself. Oh, so the surprising shock. Breaking in the garage. But the guy is okay as themselves. I mean, you're surprised because you're trying to. You don't expect that that you're making a Joe, I really was okay. Making a pun. It'd be shocking. If I did. On the Bobby bones show now Morris, so I was looking at your pictures on industry when you went to street, which is the coolest thing. Maybe I've ever seen. You do. I think it is a cool thing I've gotten to do right. Like, listen, we're lucky we're in a job that sometimes we get to do really cool things like in music and on TV, but you got to frigging Sesame Street almost cried when I met big bird because it's surreal seeing him in person. How big is big bird though, really well, he's taller than Ryan. That gives you any guestimation. He's he's a big bird. That's all I can say he's got to be like six five and does big bird talk from inside the suit. No. I mean. Yeah. Actually know he he talks anything's. But recently, the the guy that has voiced big bird since like the beginning in the seventies or some crazy of he's retired. So I think there will still be maybe big bird. But they have they'll have maybe a new voice for him. Which is always a little bit weird when they have to switch the voice. Yeah. For something that you've known forever. But no, they they were so welcoming to us and it airs for their fiftieth anniversary next year. And it was just a cutest like cuteness overload all day, and they saying Ryan happy birthday. So I told him I was like thirty two. That's probably the coolest birthday ever had is Sesame Street casting you happy birthday to you. I don't know how ever gonna top that again Austria the garage their Oscar the grouch wasn't there. But we had Elmo big bird. We had Rosetta. We had the cookie monster. Yeah. On the whole troop. And so they invited you because Moore's fans and they're just bringing a lot of artists to do a fiftieth anniversary. Yeah. I mean, I don't know who the other artists are for this next year. But you know, it's like I con to get to do that show. I've looked all the country artists that have done Sesame Street, and it's like little big town Garth. Johnny cash has done it. And it's just the coolest thing. That's really cool. Yeah. I also saw I haven't watched it yet. But making murderer to did you finish that or? No. Yeah. I finished it or not always I good. Yeah. I mean, I guess people are like conflicted because you know, they're still in prison. So it does feel a little tedious. But the attorney in the second season, that's representing Steven Avery is so smart, and she is just a pistol her name's Kathleen Zellner, and she's just probably the most fun person to watch because she's just so brilliant. Well, then what do you think? I saw the first like everyone else. Did haven't started the second one yet? You feel like Stephen every did it or no. You know, I didn't think he did in the first season. But after the second season, I'm even more convinced that someone else has done it, really. I mean. Oh, wow. Okay. Do you think it's because his lawyer is just that good? And maybe how the documentary spins it or. Oh, man. Okay. Now, I'm convinced. Bunked every single thing that the state brought against him. And then she the coolest thing to watch is that she does all these experiments to recreate what they said happened, and she just disproves every single thing that they put forth. So it was almost like. Yeah. Of course, it didn't happen that way. And you know, she's like I think the the most exonerated lawyer. Like, she's gotten off the most people as a private law firm were wrongfully convicted to watch this. Yeah. It's it's just fascinating. I love true crime documentaries anyways. But that's a good one. You watch the one with the guy filled won't fell down the stairs. Did you watch? That. Did what did you think you think he did it or? No, oh, it's so weird talking about this. 'cause like these are real people. But by on shows, though to be fair, I didn't think he did. But when I watched the last episode for some reason, like something the way, he said, a certain thing made me think that he did. And also that show was way too long fourteen episodes, and it was all just like courtroom footage, and it was fascinating. But yeah, I kinda got us a weird vibe from the guy in the last episode. But what about Jay? I'm just kidding. Hush totally getting dredge. It all let's every court case from our life. Let's. Educated opinion on it. Well, we although we just watch this stuff. And we see what is being slanted at us in the way, they want to slant at us. And then they go, okay. Make your opinion the way we'd like you to make it based on what what we're giving you. I feel like I've formed an opinion from enough up the, but yeah, it's just crazy. Okay. Let me switch it up or second. I'll talk about music because I mean, everybody's asking you even teasing a little bit about new music. Like when do we get to a first song more than album because I know that will come? But when did we get here? I knew song January. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Say January you'll have a new song force. Yeah. I I haven't like aired that out yet. But I'm telling you, it's it's January because I mean, no one's more ready for new music than myself. Like, I love my first record. But I've sung my church. You know, five busy leeann times. I would love to perform like some new stuff. Now, what are you over thanksgiving? We're switching it up Ryan's never been to Texas thanksgiving. So my family, my aunt has a place outside of Austin like in marble falls. Yeah. So we're going to the hill country and show is going from here. Yes. I love it. So it's a difference. Like, he's never done a Texas thanksgiving like what do you think's different food, offering wise for him? Or is there something you really look forward to? That's like tradition in your family. Yeah. I mean like my dad always like, he's a great cook. And I'm sure they'll be like pot looking the whole thing. But they make this this pi it's like a icebox like chocolate pie. It sounds like super white trash, but it's so good now. I know. Yes. Yes. So I haven't had that NF years because we've always done like the the heard thanksgiving. So we're switching Christmas and thanksgiving this year, but I'm excited to go to Texas and like spend some time with my family, and I I have some stuff to g on there. I'm doing like an album listening party in Dallas. And yeah. So it's I'm pumped to go back home. Well, mayor and Morris. What can I say, I'm a big fan of you? I'm lucky to be your friend, and he's just rocking it. I'm so happy. For you. Hope you have a great holiday. It's so good to see congratulations on everything and Mirren. Thank you. Thanks. Bobby remorse. Everybody thinks. Oh, bob. For some reason the segment is so popular makes me uncomfortable. Sometimes, but it's called that's rude. And so we see you post on Facebook. And you say message just nice, and they're actually the rude. And we read them back now. I don't get so uncomfortable the mind, but I don't like people go after Amy may be comfortable. I'll go first all read mine. Okay. All right. Jeff writes, hey, Bobby. How did you write a self help book when you need the most help? Oh. Oh, that's. Suzanne writes, hey, Bobby. I love you. But you need some meat on your bones. Hamburger emoji hamburger emoji hamburger emoji. That's true. Here's one that. I can kind of agree with Bobby. You're kind of a nice guy. But also kind of douche. Oh, that's rude. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't get a rightly. Okay. There we go. Let's go over to Amy now. Amy hit yourself with some that's route from our listeners. Go ahead. This is from Tiffany, my favorite part of the Bobby bones show is when Amy doesn't talk. Rude. From crystal Amy, you look very nice for a woman your age. From Chris Amy's laugh sounds like Elmo on helium make it stop. Okay. Over lunch box through over there. A couple of pulses lunchboxes face is the equivalent to a kick in the Nasr. They're going to have to physical attributes to all three of our. They won't have too much can legs Amy's age. Let's face dirty now. Go ahead Mark who good idea to let lunchbox reproduce. No one. There you go my wife, dude, that's true and stuff. I think I could smell lunchbox through the radio. Rude. There we go. Is that? Oh, what's up here? She goes, probably true. Hey. That's you know. And then I said JK that's true. Whatever whatever. Great for your age. All these songs that mentioned a brand name in the lyrics. So I'll give you lift to the song. You tell me the brand name. They're singing about you could write your answer down. Chris Janson fix a drink familiar with the song. I hear. Fixing. Says I don't know what's going on with you. But if you got some cheap whiskey and some blank, what's he talking about? Got it. I don't know what's going on with you. But if you got some cheap, whiskey and some blink. Amy mountain dew mountain mountain dew. Food if you guess and whiskey. It is. Pointed how about this one mayor and Morris eighties Mercedes familiar with the song right here. She says feel like a hard to get starlet when I'm driving turning every head. I ain't even try in got them blank shades. Pretty in pink, call me old school. But hey. Got them blank shades. Pretty in pink. I'm in. I'm in for the win. Oh, gosh. Chanelle watch Ray bans, RayBan shades. Yeah. These guys get a point. Raisman shades. Okay. How about this one from Keith urban? The song is John cougar John Deere, John three sixteen. He says a Mark Twain on the Mississippi. I'm Hemingway with a shot of whiskey. I'm a TV dinner on a tray trying to figure out the wheel of fortune. I'm a blank star. I'm A Gibson guitar. I'm a blank star. What brand name? Got some bones. Blanks. Starr Gibson guitar. This on so hard. Okay. Amy. American idol American idol, star good guess. Sunkist Sunkist star. No. Eddie. Okay. I wrote this dominant sound right. Texaco Texaco star. Yeah. But I can't sing it. A fortune. Dude. I try to sing that back of my head and was not coming up. Mike, and I was like. Has the star one more name the brand name and the song from Sam hunt body like a back road? First time I seen her walk by man about fell up out that chair had to get her number it to me like six weeks now me and her go way back like blank men. Everyone should have this way. Now me and her go way back like blink seat. Back. Fifteen. I'm in for the win. Let's box city. I s good lazy? Boy, lazy voice seeds. No. He wrote lays down just wanna guest Cadillac Eddie Cadillac, dude. Yeah. I didn't get hun. Work and actually does. All he doesn't win. Must have a from. Hanging out with us. Morgan number two as head of digital. She runs. Our website all of our show social media. How are you Morgan to good? So she's twenty five and sometimes she cares about things that maybe we wouldn't care about. She thinks about that kind of stuff. Right. Ain't getting older. Yeah. I know. I just keeps me on my toes. You're thirty seven thirty eight. But here we go. Amazon has reportedly patent a new version of Alexa, that could tell if you're sick. We how does that work? So they would assess your speech and your coughs and sneezes in moans. And then tell you you're sick, my moans. Okay. Great. It's listening to sneeze and cough. We just have to accept Amy. This is the world. We're living in. Yeah. Why not use it for good there to let them tell us? We're not good. And how to get better. You know, actually would be kind of amazing if Alexa book doctors of women, and then I was like sweet didn't even know of sick yet preemptive. Yeah. Like, she's probably the best assistant ever. So they've Patton this they filed for what he said. Yes, they patent it. But it's not in development yet. It's just a coming thing that they're working on which means it probably already worked for them in the back room. And yeah, they're already like, you know, this has been a workout. Just great. We got this. All right. Thank you Morgan. Number two. And that's what twenty five year olds care about. Hey, thanks for hanging with us. Way in Greensboro, North Carolina on November thirtieth that the Carolina theatre would love for you to come out, Bobby bones, comedy dot com. It's time for the good news. Was born with a rare disease where she had a kidney problem and liver problems. She needed a transplant. She was on dialysis for three years. So they posted on Facebook say, hey, we need a kidney, we need some liver. Saw they share it. People share friends of friends of friends. Someone gets a kidney donates, it friend of that gets tested. Oh, livers match to donate their liver and Lila goods new kidney at a new liver. Lot of shares someone really right? We need some liver. Exact-? Isn't cool. Sounds like. Catfish would use chicken liver all time am I gonna say lovers? And so that's like when the liver the bullet tick. Go to go get some liver. All right. That's a good story, though, Facebook, thank you Facebook. And that's what's all about right there. Over to Amy pray slightly early morning. Corny. Morning corny, but kind of lettuce did they serve on the Titanic? What kind of lettuce did they serve on the Titanic iceberg? That's that's strong today. That was morning Gorny. So you have an eleven year old daughter. So what happened with her? Well, we were at this hardware store, and I was busy with the sales for some picking outs and things and she had use the restroom. So I let her go by yourself. And I mean, she's eleven so she can't. But again, my kids they're only been in America, eight months, sometimes just figuring stuff out the little new for them. And she comes back from the bathroom and Bobby she smells like she swam in pope ry well in the bathroom, they had this air freshener like the sh- superstrong air freshener. Well, she thought it was body spray, and she's braid at all over her body like head to toe like she was walking through the showroom and people were like, whoa. What is this? And then I asked her what did you do? And she said, I sprayed my body with the perfume. And I'm like, no, no, no that's air, fresher, and it got so bad. Like, she even she couldn't handle herself. Like, she was asking if we could go, home and shower. We we have stuff to do. We couldn't go. So she just smelled really bad. I guess pro by skunk. Once when I was eleven up in a really small town in Arkansas seven hundred people hunted and fish, and sometimes you get hit with skunks. I got sprayed by skunk spray by skunk. Not me personally. What I mean? Come off. Okay. Yeah. And sorry, my grandma taking and us getting a bunch of tomatoes and water because you couldn't buy VA that was expensive and you can buy cans of actual tomato juice, but you would take smash up ten tomatoes filled about two the water and just citizens and tomato water. Yeah. There's something in the tomato work. I really don't have another word I still smell like skunk. When I got out of there. But I wonder if that smell was hard to get off of her it wasn't skunk. Like, but I mean, it was powerful, and it was awful, and it was too much strong, and what's up with your kids? Meaning they've been here. Now since December of last year he adopted from an orphanage in Haiti like what's their biggest struggle? Now with kind of a Justice to America or having parents, or they weren't biologically brother and sister before you guys adopted them. What's their biggest struggle? Now. It's a loaded question. We have a lot of little struggles for sure just to be honest. But I would say I just feel like they're a little behind. And I the biggest hurdle right now is us playing catch up in school constantly playing right now is a hurdle. Big time. What was the education like in the orphanage for them? Not that great. What would they? At the moment. That's very clear they have school. But it's just not at the caliber that we're used to. And I mean, we had them in English lessons every Saturday and Sunday for about two years like tutoring. Yeah, I don't think that worked really at all even at the orphanage, even though you're paying for someone to go in right? I don't think he I mean, he poor guy that was doing it like he tried. But I don't think he was a quipped. So we'll be the goal this year. What's what's the goal with them? Give them into school your goal. The NFC year for us. Like my goal is to there's a school. We would like for them to go to the I think would be really really good for them. There's other kids from Haiti that are there. And it's a school to actually has another school in Haiti. They're very Haiti centered. My gold be for them to be at a spot where they get into that school right now. I mean, they're they're not they're like, it's just not possible. So that's my goal is for them to catch up. Bobby bones show. Let's throw one of these out there. It's time for a never gonna get it. The average married. Couple does this about once a month? Boy, can you say that on average married? Couple does this about once a month? If you're lucky used. Businesslike? Needs to be obvious. Anyone have an answer spoil it lunch. Spoil it boil head sleep in separate beds, the average married couple does this once a month sleep in separate beds. Because he's in the doghouse and the answer. One of the go say that's the deal with you guys. No, no, no, we I mean, if we're mad we go to the bed and same bed. Mad though. Yeah. Okay. I don't ever sleep anywhere else. One time I have slept on the couch. Go she would bed before me because she was magical and talk to me and she woke up by the you didn't wanna talk to me. So I didn't wanna sleep next to you who got her got actually. No, you got you. The bad back in bed. But he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wouldn't it? Just one time. That's not average once a month. But I got other things happen. Once a month, the average married couple does this about once a month. Bowl show. You're never gonna get it. This morning is the average married. Couple. Does this about once a month? Guest sleeping in different beds. Eddie. This is sad. But going to date go on a day. Amy. I don't mean fights about finances. You're not right. Eddie. I'm gonna have to go to the movies. I'm gonna give that. Yeah. It's close. Gosh. I haven't gotten it in so long. Well, I said you'd never get it. And you got it. Once a month. Couple go to the movies thoughts. I haven't been in the movies forever. So, but I mean, if you just say dateline is sounds about right. So we've got kids. Yeah. And you seek way your date might only be forty five minutes long. Or it might be a walk on a Saturday morning before the kids wake up like, hey, you like going to walk so leave the house with the kids their daughters. Eleven are Sunday. Don't give me a hard time. When I say, I can leave my kids newborn baby. It's time for the good news. Body. Greenville, South Carolina police officer named Ben Miller got a call about traffic backing up on a local road. And he went to check it out. He found a truck with broken down because he'd around a gas. The officer help them push truck to a parking lot. And then found out what was wrong, the father of two told the officer. He was trying to get to work only had six dollars to his name. So the officer said, hey, let me buy you some gas bought a gas bottom can of gas and that helped him with some other things on his own dollar. So that's that's good, man. I love our police officers. I do I love our police officers. And that's a great story to officer. Ben Miller in Greenville, South Carolina. We appreciate you in that to tell me something good. That was telling me something good. It's now top of the baby changing off. And let's contested. With the brand new newborn, baby. He's been a member of the show the longest give it up. Anyway, by having horn record in the red corner that the oldest member of our show. Okay. Two sons ten and five and he claims can change a baby's diaper super bad. Although I never really did it much. Two baby dolls in front of them. So you took a diaper beside you. Yes. Baby. Oh now, they're both talking. So here's the option. Now, there is a prize here. You can either win forty dollars cash. I like it or I will donate fifty dollars and charity. We shall decide. Okay to yourself lunchbox, baby baby bones. How're you the judge this as soon as you completely wrapped in diverges, slam it on the table. And that that means that. Yes. That means the baby's done and amiable check it. Now, if the baby's not done up to Amy standards, the other person should keep diapering because your baby could she's gonna be judging needy. Yeah. You can't have room for leakage. Right. So. Because you cut off circulation show the legs brand new baby done it. He's got circulation many times. All right, ready. Ready, ready ready? All right. Lunchbox got the diapers. Pampers here. What are you doing? Are you going into the bag change a diaper bag? Here we go hands on the table. Both of your hands flat on the table in three two one. Into the diaper got the lead right now. Eddie got hit. Struggling right now. Eddie slammed. Eddie still struggling a Roper. I did it into Amy inspect the baby. And let's let's still. Done. All right. Amy. Check the diaper. There's room for circulation doing the finger test. You know? Took a is the bottom. No, I actually feel. Eddie did a good job. Petty came in eight seconds strong. Second. Can I say I have valuated lunchboxes go ahead, and he took his time fourteen seconds. It's better. Thank you. The speed test. I'm just giving you props Eddie beat you. And it's doable. But you do have mad diaper making skill Lamey. Who is the winner producer Eddie who videos, our videos or lunchbox lunchboxes over lunch boxes? Based on time. Doc. This shows. I've always known how to change the diaper. I just choose not change. Lunchbox messed up by making them grab out of the. Head done with the game. Eddie, you are the winner. Choose you get forty dollars in cash for you donate fifty dollars to charity for new what your heart says do at your heart says, go ahead. Know. Get a healthy out. Right. Gave him the money there yet. So have you guys get spin even just a few minutes with us today? Thank you so much gotta go. Hopefully guys will be around. We'll be around all day, actually, Mr. Bobby bones on Twitter and Instagram, and if you have the iheartradio app, search Bobby bones show on demand. Thank you. Come on.

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Tuesday 14 April

Monocle 24: Midori House

19:01 min | 1 year ago

Tuesday 14 April

"Fronts is President Emmanuel Macron live televised address to the nation announces? That France will remain in locked in for another month to combat the spread of Corona virus there. Us President Donald Trump appears to be maneuvering to sack his government's top infectious diseases expert. Dr Anthony found she who's become one of the most trusted voices during the crisis in the US and has Vladimir Putin responded too slowly to the rising numbers of corona virus infections in Russia. Monaco's editors tackle those topics today on the late edition here on monocle. Twenty four hello and welcome to the late edition coming to you today from Toronto with me. Thomas Lewis while we have plenty to get through in the next fifteen minutes or so and to help us dissect towards being a big news day in many parts of the world. I'm joined from London by Editor Andrew Tech. Good Evening Andrew. Thanks very much for joining us. Hello Thomas Everyday is a big news day. The moment isn't it? It's kind of hard to keep up with the quantity of headlines that we have to wade through every day but thankfully you're here to help us do that. Yes and to help us do that as well. Andrew Chris sure mark is monitoring editor and. He's also joining us from London. Chris good evening to you. Good Evening Thomas Inonu. I can only second. What Andrew's saying it's quite a day a lot of announcements from lots of different countries on how to deal with this virus and a lot of mixed bag of news. I'd say so interesting to try and make sense of it all over the next fifteen minutes or so at the Palace last night. French President Emmanuel macron address the nation to announce that lockdown measures in place in France to curb the spread of Corona virus. There would be extended for another month a little earlier on today's edition of the briefing. We spoke to Florence. Beat him in London bureau. Chief for the Sean France. Press News Agency on. What caught her attention during the address last night. A clear perspective on what's going to happen so you know you are going to stay in those for a month but you know what will be happening you know that from the of May. The schools are going to reopen progressively. That the economy's going to restart because everything will start again except for cafes restaurants and cinemas theatres etcetera in the entertainment industry. So at least people know what is coming next and I think my co is one of the first head of state so far to have clearly indicated what what was coming next and how the confinement twitter will happen. I'm through Florence Biedermann. They're speaking to the importance of the details. In President Macron's address last night when schools were reopened gradually for example? How important do you think giving people details on the next steps in this will be fully does around the world who are managing their own lockdowns? Well there are a couple of interesting things festival on the education move. He also showed a kind of understanding of the kind of inequalities in France and he made that part of the speech because he said look not. Everybody's got access to the Internet. We're focusing on all these nice middle class. People are probably getting through this okay. You're they're home. They're looking after their kids. They're they're teaching them online. They're getting their their schools to be connected them online. But not all kids are in this world and if you don't get children back to school very soon you're going to be exacerbating inequalities within French society already so I think that was first of all a really interesting thing that he's putting out there that we need to get kids back to school to make sure that future generations don't suffer because this period even more than they're already going to and I think it's also interesting that in many countries you have leaders who they begin to forget that they're public servants and they don't bring you into the story because they're scared that your move ahead of the narrative if you here it's going to be lifted in a week then your decide. How actually we can start changing our behavior now but here was somebody who trusted the French population. Say Look his knee. Precise date on which I guarantee you. Things will begin to change if you expend another month going along with all of the rules and regulations that we've put out there which are tough in France but at least you have a pathway through it and I think that the the scary thing for most people is when they begin to lose hope that there is any any way through this terrible virus and back to some semblance of normality so I think he's a warmth and humidity and also being a public servant is very important and Chris. We've seen moves in other parts of Europe to for example in Spain on Monday building sites and some manufacturing plants were reopened. Even as though big parts of the lockdown there continues. What do you make of the timing of some of these maneuvers from other governments across Europe? What we've seen lots of movements this week. It's fair to say it's on us Aside from France and it's interesting I think to to look at the differences. I mean this this has to clearly be something that is very country specific as it were and it depends on things like the rate of new infections. How well each population is coping with the measures that are in place whether they've reached the peak as it were in in the number of infections and The number of deaths bank that many countries are facing And so yes we've seen we've seen a variety this week. We've seen a Austria today. is Reopening a certain amount of shops smaller shops Lee is also only in certain parts of the country that are less Less effective is opening. Smaller shops says Spain as he mentioned. Denmark is also slowly opening up so I think we're seeing that some of those countries that have gotten past their peak or able to open up while others like France and the UK. are are a little less able to open up quite as quickly Another one to watch this week just to say would be Germany which tomorrow is going to be having a big conference call between England and the state leaders in Germany and so Germany could be one of the next ones. It's coped relatively well through this crisis. with Particularly with testing. And so it's looking at potentially easing some of its measures as well and may two. Andrew's point I think Absolutely I just. Communication is is very key to be honest about where your country stands to give some people hope and listening to the France comedy. The one that I might add on a personal note given that I'm half Australian as well is is the best in quits in Austria. I think he has been quite clear in his communication as well in in an impressive way in In telling people In a similar way to McColl a what what the next steps are going to be. And he was very clever as well in last week announcing possible openings It was quite a tactical speech to say to everyone that basically if you stay home for Easter if you do not go out and enjoying other family members friends over the Easter holidays then we will be able to open up on Tuesday at today and I think that worked quite well because it gave people that sort of carrot and stick approach that I do think is also important in this crisis to give people the hope so that they have the the will if you will to stay indoors for the time that's needed well. If communication is key in Europe let's shift focus now to the United States where the communication of the message has been convoluted and confused to put it nicely. I think it's fair to say now. It appears president. Donald Trump is maneuvering to fire the. Us is top infectious disease scientists. Dr Anthony FAO CI. He has for many Americans. Become Voice of clarity in a frightening time in the US a little earlier we spoke to Geoffrey Howard a commentator on US politics on why president trump seems to be directing his ire towards Dr Fat she. Now there's also a potential disagreement between the president and FAO Sean. When we should reopen the economy foudy seems to be tapping down Trump speculation on the prospects of this malaria drug hydroxy chloroquine that the president's been very enthusiastic tout but thou- she's been clear that this is not been tested and proven to work in the case of Corona Virus But I think that so long as he continues to walk that tight rope and no not criticize the president to overtly I think the fact that he is he is so trusted and he is doing a reasonably good job means that it. It seems likely that the president will fire him. I'm not you have any sense. Talk as to why Princeton Donald Trump. Who made the suggestion that Dr Anthony? Fat Cheese should be fired last night on line. Why he's making this story now. Why the attention is going there for for him. Well it's very easy to get into the the logic of president trump but on the right there are many people who are critics of Anthony Fauci. They they believe any questions about when the economy reopens should be left to the president and shouldn't be the remains of somebody who is a public health service and on the whole thing out. She kind of goes along with that. He's trying to separate the two roles and not get too wrapped up into what should happen with the economy but many on the right field that found she is delaying a return for Americans getting back to work for the economy humming again and they may be blunt. They don't like his warnings and his stern advice here. He gave an interview to the Wall Street Journal in which he said going forward for example. I don't think people will be able to shake hands after this. Maybe ever again now. So he's he's he's on. These people are saying. Oh in a few months time. We'll come out this the other side and it's going to be fine until you get a vaccine this is GonNa Change People's behavior in lives again and again and again and that's not what you want to hear when you're president so yesterday trump tweeted a tweet which which had had the Hashtag far out g and whether he believes or whether he was having one of his moments of liking because bill controversy. We don't know but it does seem very unwise for him to make a move against voucher because she has much higher approval ratings with the American public on the question of trustworthiness around Corona virus advice and the president does so in the end a pain in his backside as it were or maybe more a kind of a meme risk sitting next to him in those conferences. Because we've seen vouches face. Smirking collapsed sometimes when the president is speaking but in the end I didn't think the president can do with getting rid of him. If there's one thing we do know about Donald Trump is that approval ratings matter so if the firing fasciitis imagine would damage his own standing. That I'm guessing you'll want to stay away from matters. You said Andrew. Let's hear briefly. Shall we from Amy Pope? She's from the Chatham House. Think tank in London she coordinated the US response to both the Abo- Zeqir virus outbreaks and she told the briefing. Why Dr Fighters Experience is needed time night? This as you know he's worked with several different presidents. He's had a long career within the federal government and he knows better than almost anyone how to move the various levers of government. This particular president is certainly challenging him. In a way. I've never seen before. I'm Chris Amy Pope there from the Chatham House think tank stating the current president is challenging the US ability to confront a crisis There are however several other figures across the US who have come to prominence. Thanks to their own handling of the outbreak in their own corners of the country. Is there anyone particularly? That is caught your attention. Well I think to the point that amy made in that clip. Competence is playing a very important role right now. Right and it's it's raising the profile of certain people that are steady hands if you will in this crisis in so I particularly of course in the US. Shine a light on the role of governors It's been very interesting to watch as they don't otherwise necessarily get quite as much attention as this but A bunch of the focus for example of course has been on Andrew Cuomo in New York But I would actually give some special mention to a few others For example some Republican governors who have stepped up and reacted In their states Even at a time when Donald Trump was not in favor of of quick action earlier in March for example Mike Dewine of Ohio who also delayed elections there Which was a quite a wise move at a time where there is a lot of uncertainty around what was going to happen. Another one is Larry Hogan out of Maryland. He's also been somebody who Issued stay at home orders for his State Quite early on and This is going to be an interesting Little battle as it were we also because we also heard Donald Trump Speaking yesterday Essentially arguing that he had primacy over. The governor's and that his word would go over what they wanted when it came to a restarting the economy in reopening some of these states. So this is going to be quite an interesting Battle communication wise and constitutionally if Donald Trump takes any special actions to try and enforce his moves in the coming months to try and open the economy before some of these states. Ready the one other one I would. Mention is Gretchen. Whitmer of Michigan. She's a Democrat But interestingly she has won enough praise that she's entering speculation race. If you will about whether to be Joe Biden Vice President so this pandemic has certainly raised the profile of some people that went might not have expected otherwise while if there's jostling for influence among various branches of government in the United States that seems to be taking place in Russia to President Vladimir Putin seems to be struggling to manage the soaring members of Corona Virus Infections. They're on today's edition of the briefing mark. Galliotti WHO's the author of the forthcoming book? Short history of Russia explained how President Putin has been forced to react the outbreak but other Russian leaders and by the Russian public. He's coming to the party pretty belatedly. I mean he was the one who had I was saying. This is fine. We're all settled is not going to be a problem. It was the mayor of Moscow so beyond in who actually said look. We really are facing something and in much the same way. The pressure really has come come from below Andrew. Is it surprising to you that a leader like Vladimir Putin has apparently be caught off guard by by something like this? Well it's interesting isn't it? Because you know we we know from the history of Russia you badly-managed moments like this can topple leaders. You know we. We have this narrative that perhaps the response to Genova was partly to blame for the downfall of the old Soviet regime when people begin to began to distrust how their leaders had reacted to a huge crisis. So you would imagine people would be alert to these things. But there's a few problems in the scale of Russia is very difficult manage and we know that there are many cases in the east. But when you look at a map of Russia whether they're charting where outbreaks have happened. Seemed to be no spots at all in the east. But we know that it's there because the Chinese problems of people crossing the border who already have corona virus. We feel that maybe Russia was a bit slow to start testing. And there's still this kind of faith in the big state kind of sorting things out and even today you know Putin has been saying that there's GonNa be an important role for the army in managing this crisis but that isn't really the way to solve. Its healthcare workers are going to be the primary people who fix that and again you have a patchy healthcare service across Russia. So he's in a difficult position because he doesn't have the small country like Austria effects. He doesn't have the wealth of somewhere like Switzerland here. He has a big nation to try and fix and there just doesn't seem to be the testing happening either but yes. I would imagine his little bit concerned how this will play out over the coming days and a bit like Donald Trump in America. I'm sure he's going to be keen to make sure that any of the blowback doesn't particularly stick to him and Chris going back to the US and Donald Trump this convoluted attempt to control the narrative at ferry at various points in this crisis. Do you have any sense of how some of Vladimir Putin will attempt to try and reclaim the control of this even if it's just in the sense of the optics among the Russian public well? It's interesting isn't it as and you talked about the The the curse if you're not the curse but the the effect that crisis can have with authoritarian leaders if it if it wakes up the public potentially there is also this this other side to it right for example what we've seen in China because somebody like Putin or in China can gain control of the narrative relatively quickly if they if they try and can perhaps change it for more quickly than in democracies if they were to engage in more perhaps. Jakonen measures as well to to get this crisis under control. And we've of course seen that in in China which has been very busy rebuilding the narrative around its handling of the pandemic. It obviously faced a lot of criticism early on for responding quite slowly and even pretending for a little bit of time that the virus was didn't really exist or was not something serious that the world had to deal with But it since then of course got very very aggressive in its response closed. Cities Closed Wuhan Got The virus under control and is now trying to change the narrative around How this virus emerged in the first place. So perhaps that's a that's not a positive lesson because that's something of of a warning Would argue as well for media and others To pay attention to authoritarian leaders and perhaps not let them get away with bringing a virus like this under control in ways that That deny what happened in the first place was suppose for thought that Chris an appropriate place to draw this discussion to a close. My thanks as ever to Andrew. Tuck Monaco's editor in London Anti-christian Mark Arafat's at thank. You both very much indeed for joining us on today's edition of the Late Edition. Big thanks to to our studio manages today Louis Allen and Sam impey I'm Thomas Lewis here at Monaco's bureau in Toronto. The Late Edition returns at the same time tomorrow but for now. I hope you're staying well and thank you very much for listening.

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WWHL @ Home: Amy Schumer & Bridget Everett

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

29:29 min | 1 year ago

WWHL @ Home: Amy Schumer & Bridget Everett

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DOT COM trello DOT COM welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast edition of Watch. What happens live with me Andy Cohen? They both perform live and all the cities but only one night. Sonya's boobs townhouse. Teddy's it's watch what happens. Live at home with Amy Schumer and bridget. Ember it now back. Hey everybody welcome to watch what happens live at home. It's Andy Cohen for my apartment in the West village with two ladies who got my motor running and one who likes to motor boat and she has moated me several times from the podcast. Amy Schumer presents three girls one keith. Police welcome Amy Schumer. Hi Amy Hi how you doing? Great and or Colo's Bridget Everett. Hi Bridget Right. I should mention that new episodes drop on spotify every Tuesday. Now the both of the both of you are on the upper west side of Manhattan and correct with each other. Very good and bridget. Show me what it says on your sweatshirt. Look Super Cute dress for the you want Andy. Yeah and amy. What is your mind says on a yacht in santro. Pay there but you know. I'm secretive verdict. Now Amy and bridget. We have a lot of fun in-store but I'm excited that we're broadcasting from all of our apartments tonight. I want you to rifle through your storage. Because it's time to open your vault. Amy What did you bring show tonight? Okay I was GONNA show. You might see section scar but you both already seen that. Whatever I'm GonNa bring this little bring gotta ever but nobody can get a manicure right now but look at the ring that I got all my girlfriends strong women in my life that I love and I love this bar and Yeah it just. It's a beautiful naked woman and so that's my mitts making you feel connected to my friends even though we're far apart. That is very sweet and bridget. What did you bring while we didn't play on this kind of on the same theme little cocktail cousy reminds of Ramona? Actually what those are Ramona. Nips through the restaurant. That's awesome. You win maybe. It wasn't a contest recently right loose. Let's go with this and it's a little bit of a Smiley Face Camman on. Wow You amped it up on watch what happens live yes it actually is. I found that I drank ember Chamberlain's breast milk. And now I've seen your C section scar. We're all out of my tits. So you've basically based of a lot of goodness in this world where your sister wives over here amy. You recently revolutionized parenting by offering a genius. Hack giving your baby a cardboard box to play with so I want to see what other motherhood. Tips are worth recycling during the quarantine with a round of parent trapped. What is the best time to find time alone to get it on with your husband while the kid is announced you know you gotTa You? GotTa do naptime. By the time he's asleep. Were already too tired. We've sort of kissed you. GotTa Kinda Planet. You know you gotta be like. There's no romance it's like do you. WanNa have sex. That's how it goes because and it's like yeah I could see myself having your menu. Listen it's it's not. It's not hot to hear the baby monitor. No really isn't what do we do if our local store runs out of diapers. Oh Gosh I mean I guess what we do with our dog and just let him play all over the floor for that. What are the best ways to amuse your child when you can't leave the house besides the the cardboard box calculator? Actually that's the big hack. It looks like a phone. You know what though that's good I need. I need to find a calculator. Actually that's kind of a leader. I WANNA talk about. Andrew pump rules a little bit on. Tonight's episode we saw Sheena Shays d'appel Ganger in Las Vegas. What did you ladies make of Sheena too? I thought she was hot too. Seemed pretty chill and she got to work that night. So I'm into yeah you can't there's no. Nobody can replicate Sheena. She is known. I think she is I think she's so sexy and I love the cheese freezing her eggs than like just being open about it and sharing it and I also laker voice because it's a little late kermit. It's like everyone so that was the only when it wasn't invited watching them up this that is tailored well. When it comes to getting your hot takes on all the latest vander pump drama. Get ready because it's all happening. It's time for a round of two girls one vander pump. I have questions for you. Ladies what would you do of your partner? Spoke to you the way Schwartz spoke to Katie after she got upset by the arrest. Frank naming. I'll you know that wouldn't go well with me. I someone who blacks out myself. I think I think some of the truth comes out when you're in the blackout. So I don't think I could get over that. You break the funny guy but dark dark shorts any reaction to recall ordering a cheeseburger with cheese during that double date the winger both her and James ordered food. It was like they were robots programmed to learn how to order it was just like I'll have a cheeseburger with cheese is like fuck. Hell honey you know I. I hope he is neatly gets enough nutrients. But when someone's number ordered a Burger before you can tell you bridge and wondering what? You Thought of Dana Complementing Lisa Bandra pump by saying she has a fat pussy. I thought that was a little bit of reach. I mean Lisa's definitely got leg a little pink pocket purse fussy which is kid but like I thought she was like just trying to like. Get out there and kind of you know. Make her impact on our imprint. That sort of like well. I just picture at least i. Haven't you know a sweet little pocket theme not like just make any sense in what you're saying lease Vanderhall. They has one of the top ten percents of all time. And I guess it's like a new thing like Fatma's EPA JT She is like a special busy and because all Dana was saying You know by the way bridge. What do you think about Charlie naming her brass? Tia and Tamara. You you're an expert on naming chips. Do you approve. Yeah I like that. I think Anything that's catchy leveled rations of that checks. All the boxes What are your general thoughts about Racale? Ladies Anything I think that she's becoming really empowered. And so that's been nice to see you know. She's not like a static character because you can be like okay. She's a little bit of a doormat and she's kind of blind to what's going on but now it feels like she's starting to wake up to you and I I mean I've been in an abusive relationship. I'm assuming you guys have to. It's I think James is doing the best you can but it's not enough and I think he's. How many more red flags does she need Cameron Rectal Matt and conversely what about law law how you know law was really hamry her Couple OF WEEKS AGO party. I think women have to lift up women and I didn't like that I mean I like Lalas smoking hot but that was what about you and me. I feel like he really went after hell rebel. Talk and stand up for herself. But it's really about James like they're really yelling at each other but really they wanna be on James so I think deep down. Yeah because they have no control over him because he's so out of hand. We've got a lot of questions for you ladies. It's time to ice odelay on us. Bridget Alex H said You Sonja Morgan or both competing on food network's worst cooks in America. This season who is a worst cook between the two of you? You'RE GONNA have to watch and see but You know she came in there. She has a toaster oven advantage. She has a kid. I Cook for me and my daughter up front on the set. We had a lot of fun but it was really hard but we got to raise money for charity so it was worth it. There was some crying. There was from Chri. There were some tears. Well Yeah it's my real show unless somebody's crying hysterically baby. Kristen v emailed and said you famously said in your wedding vows that you would keep going down on your husband. Even though everyone told you you wouldn't have your promise works. I have kept my promise I have. I love it and say hi to Chris Amy. I count your son Jean. As one of Ben's only friends his own age and sadly our play dates have been halted since the quarantine. But it's time to play one to baby. I'm GONNA pose some baby related questions and countdown one to baby. We will vote answer at the same time. Okay Amy who exhibits more side? I during play dates ben or gene. One Shoe Baby. And the then's aside I Benz. Aside SMOKES MORE WEED. Wants the babies in bed. Amy Or Andy. One to baby nine. I'M GONNA out of all people I know I I'm I I don't I don't I don't smoke either. Yeah I mean Yeah Baby Baby. Shark love or hate one to baby. Hey Yeah yeah changes more diapers me or you or your nanny one to baby nanny who makes Ben and gene laugh more amy or Andy. One shoe baby amy. Who's more guilty of cursing in front of the baby? Amy Or Andy. One to baby amy. We don't even try not to you Mrs Ben so much. I really miss seeing him. Ben Mrs Jean. I mean little brands are little friends. Maybe when we're off the air we can bring our babies out so they can wave at each other. Yeah he just came in did. Yeah you just go. Go get him to win. Okay Yeah Yeah hold on why you after the quarantine pandemic no. I think they know to okay. Hey Amy I have to ask you since we both just showed our kids on national television and you and I both spoke like a month got. We spoke two months ago about how are not showing our kids on social media right. We're so proud of ourselves. I'm assuming the quarantine is kind of opens your mind up because it's open mind a little bit because it's like we're all home and you know it's like either you're going to be sharing the sort of intimate part of yourself or you're not gonNA share anything end. I feel like it makes me feel better. Happy to see people's families and whatever now so right yeah. Those rules have. Kinda gone out the window. That's so interesting I mean I'm I'm the same I haven't in thing happening. It's very interesting. We'll bridget whether you're co hosting a discussion on Amy's podcast or sitting on an audience members face at one of your live shows. You have a gift for bringing people together. So it's time to play bill down a bread with a pair of Bravo liberties you play mediator. Okay Verandah versus Tinsley. Whose side are you on. Or how would you get them back together on normally on threatened aside because I love her but Tinsley has that mom? That's already so overbearing. I feel bad for her. I just wish that Arinda. I don't live on edge this season. I don't know something's up with her but I'm hoping that she She can get her a piece. Back again Sonia and Arinda and Ramona versus Leah's tramp stamp The women are really all over her about that about her tattoos. Any how how. How can they get over it? Well one of my best friends tramps. Yeah what was your reaction to the New York? Housewives tramp stamps shingling Leah. I just think that when when you get a tramp sampling. You'RE GONNA feel enough. Shame on your own that you actually don't you don't need that from the group like it's no one like. I don't know anyone that doesn't regret their tramp. Staff name is pretty bold and that kind of like that. Yeah what did you think Rem Ramona versus Lou Lou? Ann was not happy to be offered. A Suite in Ramona's lower-level Aka the basement thoughts on that ladies. I love New am but when I'm on vacation with people and then you can tell you this. I like to sleep as far away as possible from everybody. I think had the best setup but I think it's you now she. It's hard to make her happy. What do you think I agree and I think you know your friends? You Love Them. You want them to be comfortable you you set them up. In a way that they'll be comfortable or write them on pump rules thoughts on the ladies. Stasi and Katie are really over. Kristen dots on should that friendship? Just end time to be done with that. Yeah I mean that's the cool thing about uh getting older and like you know in the to start having kids you're like you just gotTa let cut the Dead Way and I'm sorry total value and you know but it's like you need to surround yourself with friends that support you make you feel good about yourself not that you're constantly trying to help build a piece of and some friends you know you give them advice and you think they're going to evolve them when they don't evolve you gotta go like. I have a good life. I wish you the best what was happening with. What were your thoughts on? Jackson Britney's wedding were you. Were you guys? Inchoo it or you over it French. Amy I love. Jack's I love Britney. Do they need to be married? Brent take taught them and I feel like they had a really great time and I think it's funny that they knew there like three nights. We'll blackout on throw up and burn a lot of bridges and then we need a night off and then we'll celebrate that night off the next night bye-bye again blacking out and burn bridges. Yeah it was so them. I just thought it was so funny how they thought everybody. Who's out by eleven the next day? Guy Amy before we go to Break Patrick. F emailed wants to know the best joke. You told that Andrew. Cuomo's birthday this year. He is so everybody's talking about Andrew Cuomo and got Cuomo fever all I said I miss Iraq. I looked down at the crowd and I said if you guys are here than who's shopping at men's warehouse one thing that's come out of this quarantine is that you and your husband sold the cooking show to the food network right amy. Yeah well we didn't. We weren't like pitching it and he got an offer. The Food Network reached out and they were like hey guys going to be home like yeah you know what we are going to be home like Guinea as that sounds good so we are. We're filming cooking. Show for the network. Were self taping it? Anwar already not know how to cook and you know either. It'll be great and people will love it or we'll get divorced right. Oh my God awesome so the stakes are really high. It's like American Ninja Warrior. But like Morris Date Chris. I need those good meals. He's a yen cook bridget. Amazing shaft. Audience Vanessa Bayer Eighty. But I don't do anything so now I know how to make stuff. I can coach Mike. Okay I'm excited. I am joined by fellow dog lovers so for tonight's moment of Moscow. I want to send a special shout out to the Beagle. Freedom Project which is a nonprofit that rescues animals from research and experimentation labs to rehabilitate and re home that the organization does incredible work all year long and I've always been a supporter but I just found out something very disturbing as happening this year. Their mission is especially important due to Kovic. Nineteen labs are closing and lab. Animals are being killed. This is an absolute horrific reality but the Beagle freedom project is working hard to get these animals in loving homes instead covering all the expenses for new owners to do so so you can really be rescuing these dogs. They could use our love support and donations to be p DOT ORG to help. I want to thank amy and bridget for being here tomorrow night. It's Beverly Hills Premier night. Everybody we'll see after Rita and Gar sell insulator. Thanks ladies by anti all right. It's the after show with bridget. And Amy Amy has a new. Hbo Mac show coming out. Which I saw I think some rough cuts of issue did you see one or two One and it's really compelling it's DOC series. I mean no it's really it's really great because also I think that people will be interested in your creative process How you change jokes and hone them and you know it's also about your journey to becoming a parent. Y It's very intimate. Why did you want to do it? And what he will get. Yeah well we need. Just were filming. Every part of the pregnancy and I was also developing greeting special a standup special for Netflix. So we documented all of it. We really didn't know what we wanted to get out of it We wanted people to get out of it. You know. I think what I'm most excited about is really showing how difficult pregnancy can be. 'cause I feel like women are made to kind of downplay not could plan very much End I also thought it'd be cool to show how you know. Great a comedy special I think people aren't in that I really loved Jerry. Seinfeld's documentary comedian and so this is like comedian. But if he were pregnant. I'm assuming that you saw Joan rivers piece of raw yet. Good yes the premier. That was the night I got to meet her. And what was that like? It was amazing. She was she just wanted to hang out with the other comics and performers. You know she was like doing all this press and whatever but she kept checking in with US okay. The comedians are all going to hang out over here. Okay I should have. We're all GONNA hang on here just list just such a lovely person hilarious and just I just love that. When you know 'cause a lot of comics you WANNA YOU WANNA hang out with other people who have messed up brain. Brigitte are you. You're you were about to do a show at Joe's poverty you had joe's Day you had joe's pub dates sat up and then the quarantine happened and they got cancelled. Are you working on booking new dates or you're working on a new act? What have you been up to? Yeah we had a bunch of shows that we're GONNA be like our ten year anniversary Steph. We wrote some new songs and I'm actually grateful to have this time to sort of reinvigorate my passion for performing live. Because like you do it so much sometimes you kind of like you forget the love it and I feel like I'm so excited to be back at Joe's book shows that are hopefully a lineup with I'll be one of the for shows back because I I want to make people feel getting them to make me feel good and I think that being in a room like that and like making stone stories and singing songs as the best way to do it you too. I feel like there was something you didn't say but wanted to say about Jackson Brittany's wedding by the way. I'm not the only thing I was going to say. It's just that like the the drama leading up to it with the With the with the Sandoval Pastor. Yeah and I think that you know I would you know I feel like every time the right time to say something and so I don't think that Santa Claus opportunistic or anything I think he did the Every time the right time to stand up for communities that you care about I am loved that that's really. Did you. Put extensions in your hair for watch what happens live. I didn't. It does look thick when I put it all by need much. But it's actually pretty thin. Lets it looks really good. I care you have. What hair has sister way here right now? But I'm not gonNA Kinda and Chris not coming right do you. What are your your both of your thoughts on the new housewife Leeann? The New House of New York rethink rates. I think people when they first come on they like really WanNa make an impact you know and they start saying stop and you're not really sure yes. Setback settled down. Let's use who she really is before. I start like fully farming opinions smart. I think we gotta talk about that hat. The bucket. Yeah what what are you to binging by the way? What have you been watching during this whole thing? Anything Great. I'm a lot of I don't you just watch episode. You've already seen. I just watch them over again. Even I know what happened. I find that like I. I was trying to watch homeland. Less I watched a bunch of it. Stresses me out. And it's like such a parallel universe where I like to watch things. Just carry me away. They're like little blankets. We get locked in it. Yeah and I also like a new products like Resourcefulness of people that invented. I think it's a event stuff. I think it's cool. Also Fun with that idea. See their dreams fresh. I know I do like Rhine when a when it's somebody else's painting. Yeah Yeah Watch. Which a lot of ninety day fiance ends love after lockup and the into the challenge on MTV. Oh you are yeah. The worst cooks in America Johnny Bananas On that. He's like a big challenge guy and he's hot. He is a competitor and it took me a while sort of find my way with them. But he's he's a nice guy because he's such competitor prized that. Sonia is even more Sonia off camera or in person. Bridget one day I will tell you what happened to me the night after I went to assign the first night. She's like let's just go have a drink. The calls one drink. But it's really like five Martinez. Go ahead when we had the thing happened to me that night. I can't say right now but it is probably one of the most humiliating experiences of. Italy isn't all IT INVOLVES A. I don't know like an awesome shoes just like drinking. Let's get some finishes okay. We'll get some fries so we got one hundred prize for people in five. Martine Ramona's half my size. Maybe a third of my size and she was like walking away. Jean-pierre Watson I was like just give me back to my room. Odyssey's house I think you would. Sonia is the duo that we didn't know that we needed but she is she something special. I love Song. She's she seems really sweet. She really cares about people she's also like. So Yeah Will you too ladies or something special? Thank you so much for doing this. I really appreciate it. And thanks for letting BEN SAYING IDA GAINEY. That was very sweet. Amy Love Thin I refer them to hand again. Those are both Myrtle babies. They're both beautiful model babies. I agree with that author of the Handing Aid Samy. Thanks for listening to the PODCAST. Everybody hope you enjoyed the show. Remember new episodes go live Monday through Friday at four? Pm Eastern time? Make sure you're subscribed to have a great rusty or night.

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Trainer Talk with Brittany Vanden Berg

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

58:33 min | 6 months ago

Trainer Talk with Brittany Vanden Berg

"This is trainer. Talk on the horse. Racing radio network radio network presented by phasing tipton. But it wasn't all a super wins the salt. We'll get steve asks. Houston career win number six thousand. It was all another dugout nail trainer. Look six als. Rosie trader gary contessa. His two thousandth career. Win on dialed in never got it was animal. Capetown's grandma steve hobby with career. Victory number one thousand overbroad now. Here's mike penna low again. Everyone happy wednesday afternoon and welcome to another edition of the show. Trainers listen to this. Is trainer talk presented by facebook. Tipton right here on the horse. Racing radio network mike panel baranov the backstretch. Happy to have you along for the ride for the next hour. And as always you're listening to the show live throughout north america on sirius to nineteen xm to one or you're tuned in to our free live streaming or the archived podcasts of the show. And of course you're doing that on our h. r. n. website at horse racing radio dot net. Well is going to be a fun hour. I know it is and even though. I'm speaking to this person on radio for the first time we've had a couple of brief phone conversations and her energy and her passion for the sport is palpable. And it doesn't take long to pick up on. And i think you'll agree once we get into the interview. Today's guest has saddled one hundred sixty three horses to date. Forty seven of those have found themselves standing in the winner's circle. That's nearly twenty nine percent for all of you who liked to hang your hat. Statistics and a further. Put that number in perspective for you. That's a higher win rate than todd. Pletcher chad brown bill. motte mark. Cassie and bob baffert and that goes along with eighty wins in the saddle during a seven year riding career to say that this lady knows a thing or two about winning races would be a pretty big understatement. So please join me in welcoming former jackie. now her. The native of woods woodley ontario brittany vandenberg to trainer talk presented by phasing tipton britney. Welcome mike i thought you were talking about somebody else there. When you're reading those debts. I didn't i didn't set the bar too high. Did i know. I know i know i'm like jeeze. Just hang up now. And i think we're good. You can send me the check later if you wanna hire a happy to come on board and represent you with those kind of statistics and numbers and look. I know we're not talking about great stakes wins at least not yet but brittany to start your career and do it in that fashion. Would it beginning. Well done thank you. I know you know It's been It's been crazy to say the least. It's happened so fast We definitely didn't expect this but like what you're saying. I even had a chance to really go over the stats yet Because we've just been kinda rolling things over one horse at a time one win at a time when you put it in perspective like that. It's it's been an amazing couple years. That's for sure your first win as a trainer. We're going to talk about your background. And how you got started in your family history and growing up terry. We'll talk about all of those types of things but your first win as a trainer came on june ninth of two thousand nineteen. That was at arlington park with a horse trap valley and i know that that had to be an extremely special day for you. That was amazing. Yeah whole day really actually was just a blur We love that horse. We had been working with him for maybe a few weeks at the time. Trying to get him Fit and ready and seeing if he would like the poly and everything else and And i remember Leading up carlos mark was and as you probably know chris amy's my fiance so He wasn't able to ride the horse at the time. So carlos just said. I'm going to do my best christie me impression. I said okay and he says i wanna get your first winter today and I wasn't thinking anything of it really. I think it was a lot higher class. I think we claim horse for eight thousand and it was a race. I believe for thirty five thousand. And and i was kinda thinking man. We're we're out of our category here. In the horse went ran a huge race in one. I just remember just tearing up in the winter circle. And i thought i hope they don't get this on the wind pitcher. Don't wanna be crying. I would venture so sure you would definitely sure you wouldn't be the first trainer to be crying in your first wind picture. I wouldn't think so. Yeah i was very special. I all your first ones. My first one is a jockey with special. I went as a trainer with special. And i mean not to take away from the wins after that but but always your first. You remember so yeah. It was amazing. Yeah no doubt about it to to do it at arlington place where you had had success as a writer with those people that you knew so well and the abbey their environment do it at arlington had to take things to another level. Oh yeah. I know the second. I stepped in arlington. I mean i was there for maybe a year previously riding. But the second i went to arlington i kinda. I kinda knew that. That was a spot that i wanted to be. Add it was just. I don't know if you've ever been there. But it's beautiful. I just oh it's just a gorgeous place. It's got that that old school feel to it of like old horse racing seal and it just it just kind of brings you back to like what horse racing about and i just. I absolutely loved it there so to get my first win. There was very special for sure. It's a it's a special place for me to our first broadcast when i first started horse racing radio network back in two thousand five. Our first broadcast outside. The state of kentucky was the arlington million that year. And never forget it. They were the first racetrack. say yet. come on up and broadcast our race. We were set up out backed by the paddock looking at all the flags and the back of the night. The isn't that pretty hours. Yeah it's it's so beautiful at arlington park. Yeah really really nice. I don't know if you had a chance to have a chance to go up to the to the to the to the top room there and everything up this beautiful. Yeah really really really nice. It's like a. I guess it's not really a hidden gem but most people chicago. I don't know how many people get out there but it's really it doesn't it doesn't look like it belongs in chicago. It looks like it belongs in kentucky or something the way that they set it up. it's just. It's a shame that you know racing in illinois is in such disarray right now and you know. There's a nazi racing at arlington anymore. Moving forward and that would be it to lose. Arlington park would be significant a loss to our sport as any track that we've ever lost. Oh yeah that would be tragic. I mean there's so many memories there you walk down the halls all the pictures and all the winds and all the greats that have walked through the halls there and been in the paddock. There in Like i said you. Just get this kind of electric seal when you're when you're at arlington and You don't get too many racetracks but you do get it there and it would really be a shame if that place closed their doors. I know that they were getting a casino over at hawthorne and and the other tracking illinois at fairmount park but So i believe those are trying to Improve illinois horse racing. But but i i wish. Arlington va jump on the bandwagon because I think that they have the most beautiful facility and they bring out the best crowd when you're coming into You know your courses coming down to the wire i. It's like a roar you know from those giant grandstands and it's something that you don't hear everywhere so it would really be a shame if they did end up closing their doors but we're keeping our fingers crossed you know. You didn't have to wait long to get that first win out of your way either. It was just your third career starter. As was her party that said. Hey this isn't so hard well Been i'm sure we'll get into it. But i kind of in training horses my entire life Since i've been a little kid. I've kind of been put to project tauruses so This was not really out of the ordinary for me but it was on a much bigger scale because The racing world wasn't really something. I hadn't worked as an assistant trainer. I hadn't been you know doing anything like that. I've been The way things that are on in the way trainers run things When i was a writer. Because i'd always aspired to be a trainer so Just from doing that and kind of picking up little things here and there. I kind of felt i had a decent grasp of it. But man i learn things every day You're never short of learning. That's for sure in this sport. I mean every horse teaches you something different. But i had had a little grasp of kind of where i wanted to go with this horse and stuff so it was a shock that i want it that price but but at the same time I had had a little background in training before. I guess you could say so not enraged towards training but in in other disciplines so i kind of had my way around a little bit around you know the horse per se. I guess you'd call it instead of just writing. So yeah yeah well. Let's go back to the beginning by the way visiting with brittany vandenberg here on trainer talk presented by facebook tipton as i mentioned born in ontario. She has been around horses her whole whole life. I'm gonna let her tell you that story. Now where did it. All begin for brittany vandenberg. Okay so like you said he was. Wind was leeann. -tario My dad and mom are farmers So they they run about twelve hundred acres in canada They they both went horse. Riders though They they had asked me when i was a kid. If i wanted a horse because we had a farm. I think it was four years old and My mom got me. My first pony. Her name was mary I mean this is how much my parents had no idea about horses. My mom was putting on the battle and not putting on a nurse to do up the saddle. So i would get on the pony and go jogging off or galloping off in the saddle would just fall off at my. My mom couldn't figure out what was going on. So i mean that's how green we were into horses. We got had no idea so anyways. Thank goodness she went and got me lessons. I have three or four lessons. And then my mom had kinda grasped a little bit of of the tac which put on them and everything and so from there. We kind of started growing and from there. I got more ponies and more horses and By the time i was let's say Seven or eight. I had stopped with the ponies. And i had started with the horses. I said no. I i gotta get into the horses that i remember. My mom was so scared. She would put me in hockey pads 'cause in canada. You know it's all about hockey. I was out there in hockey pads riding these horses At eight years old with wooden blocks in my stirrups to try to get the stirrups up high enough actually sit my legs so it was It was it was something But anyway i. I think that helped me grow a lot because i used to always Take a horse on. That was a challenge. Take a horse. That was a challenge. I never wanted to stick with one horse so I got into barrel racing. Of course because i love the speed and I people used to pay me at the horror shows when i was like nine and ten years old just to get on their problem. Horses the ones that were bacher. Do something ridiculous and they say this little girl tune them up so i kinda got a reputation of i guess you could say being a little crash test dummy but it worked out in my favorite because it taught me a lot about horses in general and it's taught me a lot about getting my seat to me and figuring out you know Sometimes the horses that are the hardest to break are the ones that makes the best athletes. So i guess from there I went on and and you know took on the barrel racing career and and Started with that all through high school got a bunch of different barrel horses and Train them from the beginning. I never bought a. I never bought a horse. That was already trained so I was always training him from the start. And and We won the national finals and canada. And one of my horses. That i trained so that was one of my highlights You know as a barrel racer was was to win the national finals. And when i did it. I was excited but at the same time. It just wasn't really. I guess i. I was like okay that it is. Is there anything else. That's going to happen like i've done it so now now is next And i guess you could say that's where the race sources kinda came into play. So yeah i read a quote. It matter of fact you were talking about that. Beryl finals championship. That you won again and i guess that was back in two thousand ten. The horse's name which chico if our weekly from what i read yeah and you said i like to do pretty much anything. That's dangerous. use the words crash. Test dummy I'll use the word daredevil. Is that a proper way to describe. Britney vandenberg i guess so. I mean all through childhood. I was always a little daredevil. I had you know. I had my horses. I did bull riding which most people didn't know I think i may be road. Probably eight to ten bulls. When i was a kid. I can't remember the exact ages. But i played football. I was a star on the football team. I was running back I pretty much did everything that my mom kinda had to close their eyes. It was like oh my goodness this. Actually my daughter doing that. Kind of thing so yeah But she got hardened to it and she got used to it and now she embraces it but but yeah i was always kind of a little dare devil but but slowing down now with training. But i still get some crazy ones in there and of course i still ride all my horses so but but yeah definitely a little devil so i i'm not sure i've ever had a tr- well i've had trainers on the show who have played football but not a female trainer who has played football. I think that is so cool. Britney and it speaks to who you are. You were fearless. Even as a young kid like that. Oh god yeah. And i love the sport of football. I mean if you're here on a sunday watch out. I mean it's yelling screaming at the tv. It's you know it's everything but yeah i football for a bunch of years. Actually i went to play in pittsburgh At the steelers stadium. And then all star game and and i won A bunch of mvp. And everything. I was actually really good at it. Obviously i was a girl. And i was a little too small so i couldn't take it any further but but i made the most of it when i did and i had a lot of fun so I'm definitely a definitely an advocate of of football for all kids. I mean it's good for girls to kinda keeps you away from the boys for a while. So yeah i have to tell you i you. You said the magic word for me and for my producer. Who's back in our studio where we are both die. Hard steelers fans. He's actually from pittsburgh. And so when mentioned playing yeah okay. Let's let's move on to a new subject. But we don't have to dwell on that. I was going to ask you about playing in the steelers stadium. Oh unbelievable unbelievable. My dad is a die. Hard steelers fan. So he's like. I thought my son you know might be in the football things. But i never thought my daughter would bring me to the pittsburgh steelers stadium stadium but yeah we went there for an all star game and and we play another team there and i. I don't think we won. I think we lost. I mean we're a small town canadian. You know football team playing playing a big american team. I don't think i'd ever seen guys that big in my life. So let's Fun anyways but definitely aiding being in that stadium standing. Where some of the great terry bradshaw and you know all those guys and so it was really really amazing. Yeah pretty cool stuff talking with brittany vandenburg former high school football star former Barrel racing champion and former bull rider former jockey now in brittany. Where do we. I mean there are so many layers to this story of yours which i find it fascinating when you when you compare riding barrel horses and will leave the bulls out of this for now but compare riding barrel horses to what you did as a jockey. How do you compare the two disciplines. Can they be compared. Okay well well. This is the hardest thing. I had to go through because it was everything that i learned. Embarrassing is it's basically take it. Throw it out the window. And it's the exact opposite for for for racehorses Various things very light handed Late movements a lot of suppling with the horses Through the belly through the body And basically i mean you just take all that and throw it all out. I mean In racehorses you got to throw a tight cross your legs or pie you don't have to use your legs So so that was such a challenge for me. Because i used to get on these sources and be like. Oh okay. I mean i don't pull back to wo- them and i don't know i got actually coal in their mouth and they're not going to stop So so things like that. Were very different for me to try to learn and I mean galloping for me was extremely tough but I didn't i didn't really have a good I guess you could say a good base for it. I kind of just jumped into horse racing. And i don't know if we're going to get into that but anyway i it was a lot different. It was a lot different than than riding horses. The only thing that i could take out of rail racing and put into racing was the horse itself so just learning to read a horse itself. definitely helped me a lot when it when it came to racing just just the the eye movements the head movements. The the the demeanor Things things in that nature helped me out a lot in racing. Where a lot of people. I guess i wouldn't say wouldn't have had that but didn't have as much experience with that as what i did at that point so that did help me a lot. How did you get started in racing Well i After we talked about the same thing so after that had happened. I talked to my parents and i said look i did this and i'm kind of i don't know if i'd wanna keep doing the barrel racing thing i said i'm just Matter point we're like okay. i've done it I don't know how many times i can keep doing it. And keeping it special so i I said you know what. I love to go fast. I love to do stuff like that. And i you know i had never watched racing. I mean when the kentucky derby came on. I'd watch it but i didn't never watch horse racing. I couldn't name you a single jockey. I mean i didn't. I just in canada where i was from. I was four hours from woodbine. So you know. I didn't have a a lot of i guess woodbine wasn't a big thing where i was that it was four hours away. I mean you'd have to drive all the way there to get there. So i mean it just wasn't a huge aspect of my life but i said let go fast and i like to win so so i said i talked to my dad and i said i'm looking at all these feral horses and a lot of our pass resources. I said you know what let's try to get. You know a two year old a three year old and just kind of get into this a little bit and kind of see where we're at so My dad's like okay. You know i'm with you. If you wanna try it you know whatever you wanna try we'll do and and I said well look. There's a there's a sale coming up. I don't know if you know the the oklahoma heritage place for quarter horses thoroughbreds But but you know we said of the horses and work out of the race will turn it into a barrel horse and we'll sell it anyway. We went we in oklahoma. We got we picked out a horse. We both looked at this horse. And my dad said hey this this is the one. Let's pick this one. It's a nice cheap. I mean we didn't have a pile of money to spend on horses so i think we bought her for like twenty three hundred dollars. I mean something ridiculously cheap and And we brought her back home. We knew she was a two year old. She needed to grow a little bit. And we just started looking through the in. This is gonna sound old timey but we were looking through the yellow pages of the phone book. Just trying to find a racehorse trainer. I can't even believe. I'm saying that book but we were trying to find a racehorse trainer. We said who does this so we were looking all over for it. We asked a couple people in barrel racing and they referred me to this guy In michigan his name was richard repellent and We gave him mccall. He said yeah sure he says you know. I've never really had anyone. Just call me out of the clear blue and say i have a racehorse. I've never watched racing. And will you take it on for me. But he said that's fine. You know had really good breeding and everything he says. I'll take it on well. What ended up happening was She ended up being really bad over there and He said you know what he says. she's getting really bad. They kind of getting ready to quit. Her and they said does your daughter you know if she wants to come and writer you know she wanted to just give it a try or see if she can work with it. You wanna come over and help. And i was like yeah. Sure my mom said you know your small britain could be jockey of this horse. I mean this is how green we. We're just like you know you could ride the source in a raise. So anyway i went over there. I had no doubt experience. Nothing never seen a saddle like a racing. Saddle never seen nothing exercise saddle and they threw me up on her and i started working with her. And and you know we became really close me and this horse and And i said look. I really wanna ride the source in a race. And he told me he says well you have to get your license and he and he walked me through the whole process of how to do it. And they had thirteen gates at their farm so He said well you know. Come out of the starting gates one time honor and see how you feel and and And like i said. I really didn't have much guidance. They kind of showed me where what to do. Where to put my hands and everything and then they said okay the bells gonna ring and you're gonna come out of the gate so you know pulled on. Here's where you hold on. So i remember the first time i did it. I lost my syrup. But i quickly got it and and i was good. Well i think it was. I had maybe one more time to practice it and then They said well look. There's a race for your horse in michigan coming up. Do you wanna go down there in front of this guy we know and see if you can get your license break out of the gate with some other guy and get your license and then you can her so anyway. Long story short. I ended up getting my license. I broke out of the gate And i went into my first race on my own voice. Which was very special for me and i mean i was extremely nervous. I had never done anything like this. I was like you know completely green. I had no idea how the races were ran. Or anything and They threw me on this horse and We were in the one hole and we ran ninety speed figure which is a really high speed index for a quarter horse and we won our first rate. And i've ever not knowing if i want or not and i didn't know where to go even if i did win so when i pulled up i turned around and i and i went back to the barn. I didn't know where to go. I didn't. I didn't go back to the winner's circle. I had no idea. Is this the way back to the bar. And the outriders like no no no dear. You've got to go to the wind circle you won. The horse goes back here so anyway i was crying. It was unbelievable. And that's kind of what got me. Hooked into horse racing. So i can see what i can see why you would be yeah. I can see why you'd be completely hooked after an experience like that. It's such a great story. I mean not not even knowing where the winners circle isn't now. I mentioned at the top of the show that lofty win percentage that you have and all the trips you made to the winner's circle not just as a jockey but now as a trainer and and to think of where it all started brittany and to see where it is today. is pretty special unbelievable. Yeah it really is unbelievable. We have a good team that works with us now and and now we set goals per ourselves all the time and stuff like that and We just keep looking at it and going okay. Well you know we set the bar here for for one year and we set the bar here for another year of my one owner. That i have is big on numbers. He's excellent guy. Great human being probably the best thing that could have ever happened to our team and He he he. He's a goal setter so it keeps looking at things and setting goals. And he's like my god. This is unbelievable. We keep keep breaking these goals in six months to a year and and we keep adding moron. And i guess that's why we haven't really looked back. We just keep setting goals and and you know our our long term goals are to get much bigger bigger better horses but for now It's grown a lot faster than we could have ever expected. So yeah talking with britney vandenberg hero trainer talk presented by facing tipped in If you can hear her story is incredible and not out. There are many chapters still yet to be written. Were about a minute and a half or so away from the bottom of the hour commercial break brittany. But i just want to bring this up. I think that if you ever decide that horse racing isn't for you when you decide to do something else. I'm gonna recommend you go into a sales position because of the fact that you had to convince your mom to keep letting you get on horses. You had to convince her to let you play high school football against the boys yet. To lynch your dad defy all the way to oklahoma to buy a racehorse for you and and that's what got things started. You are one hell of a salesperson. I don't know you did it. But that's incredible. I had to learn the gift of gab. When i was young. That's for sure. Yup yup cool. Yep thirty persuasive. I guess you could say before we wrap things up just real quick the bull riding when you were riding the bulls You said you wrote what six or seven or eight bowls. I guess time handful. Yeah for sure. Yeah i guess just speaks to the fearless nature of who you are at heart right. Yeah i guess you could say that. I mean it was just a it was a of fun. It was just another experience. It was an event in the rodeo. That i had yet to try so i said you know what. Let's let's give it a whirl and a couple of my friends. Were doing it in the rodeo. It was a lot of fun. i mean i. It wasn't something that was gonna stick for me. It was just something that was like. Hey would you get on this bowl. And i was like of course i would say the whole time. Yeah so but but anyway it was a lot of fun. All those memories are a lot of. I mean if i had kids now. I don't know if i'd be willing to let them do what i did but i saw him. It was a lot of fun. Yeah good stuff Brittany vandenberg here on trainer talk presented by phasing tipped and we are going to get to that commercial. Break here at the bottom of the hour when i come back. We'll continue to talk. more about. Her journey will talk about her writing. Career we'll talk about the success head as a trainer in some of the top moments that stand out to her. This is trainer talk. And it's all presented by phase tipped right here on the horse racing radio network. The heat is on in february phase. Tipton basic kipton is still accepting entries for the two thousand twenty one basic tipped in kentucky winter mixed sale the last breeding stock sale of the season in two thousand twenty sail produced scorching results with the five hundred. 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This is trainer talk presented by facing shipton on the horse racing radio network running off from the backfield as a turn to the top of the stretch is yeah i know aiming at factory set. Some fast fractions. We'll see a man as he turns down three to. The good triple. Delight is on the move in here comes miracle mouth from apocalypse. Pack the chicago evader dead. Aim on the pacesetter in. Its miracle mouth news. Fourteen to the front and miracle mountain is drawn away with the miracle mountain is now a seven time winner in by just about four and a half in the end pay-setting page factor did hang on for second in one thirty seven a big win by miracle mountain at turf way park and that was for my special guest brittany vandenberg. You're on trainer talk presented by facebook. Tipton that is her lone win so far in two thousand twenty one but it's also her only starter so she's undefeated this year and she comes into Twenty twenty one off of a couple of banner years to kick off her training career. We're going to talk more about that. We'll talk more about her writing career as you transition from being a jockey into horses will tell you all about it in the second half of the program here but want to remind you if you missed any portion of this show all you have to do is head back to our website horse racing radio dot net. You can check out the podcast of this show. And all of our shows at your leisure horse racing. Radio dot net in horse racing radio network on apple. Podcasts brittany. I received an email back in october from a listener. Who listens to trainer. Talk all the time and He mentioned that he was from michigan. And he said listen hazel park which was in michigan closed abruptly. A few years ago won the local favourite jockeys was britney vandenberg and he said i would love to hear her story at some point on trainer talks for that listener. This show dedicated to him and I know so. Many people are enjoying hearing your story but hazel park was a special place to wasn't it. Yes yes that's awesome. Hey hazel park guys. If you're listening it's a nice do It's nice to hear from you again. I haven't talked to them and so long of they're definitely like a big family over there. It was it was a lot of fun. So i'm glad somebody wrote in and said that they still remembered me. And we're watching me for over there. That means a lot. So you told the story in the first half of the program about writing in your first quarter horse race with a horse that you and your dad went and picked out and that you owned and it was so special. You didn't even know how to get back to the winner's circle. You didn't know that's what you were supposed to do after you won that race. Where did the journey go from there. so after that had happened Obviously we were just totally hooked. I mean i was hooked. My family was folks. They were like this is awesome You know We just started You know quarter horse racing got into quarter horse racing with this guy a little bit. I started writing You know learning more trying to learn more about this thing. Because when i was in that i i mean i don't even know how to unpack my with. I mean i. I had no clue so it was just a big learning experience after that trying to get into it and everything else And working with a trainer. I had mentioned before richard retali- so Had just kinda brought up from there where. I started writing We went to ohio. It's this'll down. And i said you know i really wanna try the thoroughbreds I really would like a mind game. You know more in the races other than just you know. Speed so I can't remember how many starts i had had there. But i went on a lady. A horse called lady which is perfect for my name. And then after that i i wrote a few more but we didn't want to break the bug we wanted to wait to go to woodbine Because that's where i was from so so we just kinda we kinda played a little bit through there. We want some races did good and And then i put up my back. And i waited for would buy and i went over to canada and i wrote it woodbine and forty one races over there And that was just kinda like you know Just kind of bouncing back and forth from track. Attract figuring out kind of where i wanted to go. I didn't really not to say. I didn't like woodbine because i love the people there and i think everybody there's great and I guess i didn't like the city of toronto is much so said you know it doesn't really the place for me. It wasn't the place. I wanted to be so i guess from there is why i kinda dipped into chicago. I said let me try something else. That i like but but i kind of known in writing that i was going to transfer over to to being a trainer just just from the way that i would ride. I mean i would get on horses and and And look down. More than i looked up. I used to say oh man. I can fix that and i can fix that. And he's doing this. And i can do that but you know you can't tell the trainer that you know so so i used to. I used to just try to you know. Pick out things every horse racing and then kind of look at the guy and say you know maybe if you try this or maybe if you you know very subtle but Anyway so. I kinda knew i was going to transfer over into being a trainer but but yeah but my career lasted i mean it was fantastic and then we moved over to hazel park. And and the reason why we were there because it was only forty minutes from my house. across the border so It was awesome. I you know. I could stay at home and train horses from my health barrel racing horses and stuff and then i could you know jump across the border and get on a few resources and have have fun doing that. I mean that's a lot of fun so not a lot of nice people there and and and you know Did need things that used to do like a dunk tank and this and that and had you know dollar beer. Friday's or something. And i mean i it brought out so many people in the crowd was just crazy at the edge of the rail. Cheering your name and holding up signs and i mean it was. It was a lot of fun. So i definitely don't regret anything of those days i was. That was a lot of fun there. So yeah more like a county fair type of app kind of like that. It was just it was. It was fun to just kind of jump in your car. Run over there ride some races. You get that feel of crossing the wire. I you know and And then just have a short ride home you know and it wasn't like i was moving away. 'cause i i one of my biggest things. I really didn't want to move away from my farm. I was such a homebody in and I mean growing up on a farm. You just you know every everything revolves around that farm. You know you train horses there you you work there everything around that so i guess my biggest obstacles was moving around but that place was kind of like a little side place from home and it was. It was a great place to go and meet some people and have some fun. So you know. I read an article getting ready for the show and i believe it was done in two thousand fifteen when you were riding at hazel park. There was a race that featured three female writers and you were one of the three female jockeys race and the the other ones were a lady by the name of kelly span bell and kim sessile who is also in there and i remember kelly in that article telling the story about all of the different injuries that she had sustained in more than three decades of writing races and she talked about thirty one pins in her knee and plates and screws in her ankles. She said half of her stomach was gone because spill that she had earlier in her career. So i guess the decision to get away from riding races and move on to being a trainer from that standpoint even though you're daredevil britney had to be somewhat easy. Oh yeah definitely. And that's what i said to you. I said you know when i'm thirty. I i you know. I just turned thirty this past year. I always said when i by the time i was going to be thirty. I didn't wanna keep riding anymore. I kinda counted my lucky stars and had some bills. But you know i got very lucky. I didn't break anything. All through racing. i guess you could say learn how to fall through my younger career learned out. You know the talking role med. That i guess But i had some seriously scary spills branded up in the hospital. But i never. I never broke anything. So i got. I got really lucky in that sense But i guess you know making making that change. Yeah you could say that that did make it easier. It definitely wasn't the biggest thing in the back of my mind getting hurt but But it was it. It did make the decision a lot easier to turn to training. Because you know it didn't. It didn't pose that risk that writing poses. And i could still have the best of of racing. I could still ride on my own horses. And i could still do that but i just take away racing part and And that way takes it takes away some of that risk so so yeah i know. She had a ton of injuries. I know a lot of writers that have had a bunch of injury. So i'm over here on would like thank goodness. I haven't been involved in anything like that but it definitely had my fair share bills. That's for sure when you finally decided to move on from being a writer and train fulltime and i mentioned your first starter came in june of two thousand nineteen. I guess it was when you finally made that decision. Was there an aha moment where you said. Okay this is the time or had it been building up for a while. Okay so so. This was amazing. Actually so i had talked with Chris about this. And i talked with my family and i talked to a bunch of people and then I said look. I really wanna start training but but training is so difficult to get into because you need to have money because you need to have horses and and you need to be able to buy these sources and if they break down or if they You know don't work out or don't win. You need to feed them and take care of them and everything else so so. It was a lot of money that needed to go into it. So there was a lot of thoughts about I guess how do the how to do this. The right way to approach this right way to be successful You know with with limited funds. I guess you could say. Because i you know i mean i wasn't You know lighting the world on fire as a writer so it was. It was just how to do this with limited funds so I had gone to watch racist. So i said to chris i said look i'm gonna start training but i just want to wait till the time is right and i said i'm gonna go watch you race. You know he had a couple races. He rides her guy A really great trainer named scott. Becker and and He had some horses over there at fairmount park racetrack. And that's in illinois. So your fiance right. So people are aware you mentioned at the top of the show. chris. Amy your fiance. Yeah yes i. It's sure a lot of people probably know him but but yeah he I was watching him. You know ride races and and someone had approached me there and they said hey. We're looking for a trainer in chicago horse trainer in chicago. And you know we got a couple of nice horses and and And you know this guy really wants to start investing and everything and said where can we find a good trainer. And i said well you're looking at one and i have my license for anything and they said really and i said yeah. I'm i said you know i'm i wrote. And they knew me from writing. And i said I'm looking to take out a trainer's licence. And i'm i'm looking to get started. And they said really and they should you know what would you charge and everything we kinda got into that and So so after. We kind of went through that i said to chris said oh my god you know. These people are serious. I mean i mean. I didn't know them from a hill. So i didn't know how serious they were anything. But i said chris. I gotta get my trainer's license and like now they wanna bring me horses like now so i had no study time. No nothing and i just went into hawthorne and i i need to take a trainer and and said okay. Well we'll schedule you. Can you sit down and take the written exam right now. And i said yeah sure and i remember being so nervous but anyway i've passed. It's you know. I guess pretty easily which was fantastic. But but rate shortly after that i mean they. They sent me horses. So i was cleaning my own stalls writing. You don't galloping my own horses. I had to go by my own tax and everything and it was just like you know it all just kind of happened and i'm like okay. Got to figure out how to write these guys bills and and you know how to talk to them but you know they made it really easy but but it was very difficult so i was literally in the barn from morning till night with these horses. Just you know Grooming writing doing self feeding You know twice a day in. And i had lived like an hour away from the track so i couldn't really go back and forth a lot so i mean it was. It was easy in the sense of where it all of a sudden. Just got put on me. And i was like wow i got owners but it was difficult in the sense of where it was like. Okay now i got you know four horses. How do i make this work without employees without it. You know so anyway. That's how that's kind of how things got. Got the ball rolling for me as a trainer. So it's the epitome of on the job training right. You had no choice and there's a saying that says. Listen if you want to be successful. You burn all bridges so you can't look back and it sounds like you kinda did that you said okay. I'm going all in betting myself and this is going to be a one hundred percent brittany vandenberg operation. I'm gonna do my way. And i'm gonna learn on the fly and obviously the results speak for themselves. It's worked thanks mike. Yeah but that's basically what. That's basically what i did. I got enough knowledge. That i'm not taking people in and just saying. Hey i know how to train your horse. You know. I've been around horses. You know long enough to know. I really in my head thought. Okay in my heart i can. I can make these sources better than where they're acts But i just didn't have all the all the the the the the small things the paperwork that this of that so that all came on the fly and it was. It was the simplest little things like how to put up a heinous in how to do little things that that i had never done before. You put me on a horse. And i know what to do and i know what to pointed out but the little things i was like. Okay you know. How do i do this little stuff and i remember having to ask these stupid questions and i'm sure people were like Are you sure you know they say you're a horse trainer and i'm like yeah you know. Put me on and do it but put me on the ground. And i'm kinda like okay. Where's this where's that. So but anyway i learned on the fly and and i can say it was very successful and i'm very happy that our team kind of stick with me through it. So what are some of the things that you think you still need to learn and get better with well. God so much Oh well the different types of horses Like i said i. I'm kind of good at reading horses but horses that are The shape of horses that might be prone to more injuries. that Picking better races for horses. I'm sure i can improve on that on knowing if someone's dropping a horse. Because they they they need to get a win or if the horses you know you know possibly on its last few races getting ready to retire things like that just knowing the inside of the game. You know. I think just knowing the inside of racing a little bit better i mean in one year. I've grown so much. To where i kinda want light my base to be at and i guess that base just keeps growing and now we started with a very cheap base of horses because we like i said we didn't have much money and i talked to my owner about it and he said look whatever you make in. The racing goes back into the racing. Whatever you lose the racing. I'm not putting back into racing. That was kind of like okay. Better make this work so So we started with a small price point for horses. And i think that was. That was a good idea because then i got to. I got to work with a kind of cheaper point of horses and take less risk on that. But now i'm getting more comfortable I'm getting more use of dealing with situations that maybe i wouldn't have been comfortable with in the past What's certain horses and certain You know problematic horses and getting much better with that so I'm just hoping to keep continuing to grow in those areas and Just become an overall A better Race minded person and a better horseman is what i strive for every day so And the horses. Teach me to do that you know. They're they're great at that they. They throw a new curveball every day. Never you never stop learning right no matter what career what you never stop learning. No no this is a job where you know. I always said you know. You shouldn't bring your work back home with you. But this job or i swear by work comes back with me twenty four hours a day. There is not a time. You know where i can think of where where my mind is completely free and clear of of You know maybe a horse i had. That didn't go so well today or something you know and and it just like frozen up okay. Why why was forced do that or what could be often as blood or we could be. You know You know upsetting him today or whatever and you know. I'll think that throughout the day you know and things like that so you. I take my work home. I enjoy it. I love it. It's it's what keeps me going. I love figuring things out And i think that. That's i think that that's what's helped us. A lot is is the point of where we're we're not. We're not hard headed. We're not stubborn. I'm not sitting there thinking okay. This is why this happens. And i know why i'm never saying i know there's there's so many possibilities of what could be wrong and and and what can help you in this game and you just really gotta keep an open mind to everything and just try to figure things out the best you can and And yeah so. It's like i said you know we're comes home with me every day The horses come home with me every day. Basically in a sense. And i think about it all the time. And that's where i learned to grow. I just keep keep learning for me choice so they definitely teach me something new every day if you had the chance britney to spend a day with one trainer past or present And you could ask them anything you wanted to ask them about training horses or life or their philosophy. Whatever it might be. Who's the one trainer you would love to spend the day with. I think that that one's easy for me because i worked for them for a short period of time Todd pletcher I really liked the way that he did things at his operation. He was so classy about what he did. He was so thorough about each horse There was not a horse. That didn't that. He didn't look over with a fine tooth comb every day. He was a really special horsemen and He really pay close attention to detail and yet just a great guy and overall great guy. And i think that that's important that you don't lose that and He's just he. He was fantastic. When when i met him and i had the pleasure of dealing with them and If i the chance to sit down and really pick his brain on a he would be the one that i would do. So and i think he could give me a lot of information on You know where to set your sights. How dot grow maybe too fast or how you know how to how to kind of manage everything that's getting thrown at you and i think he was someone who had to do that Starting with a small stable and growing. And and i think i could pick his brain a lot in those points so it would definitely be him. I have a lotta respect for him. What do you think makes a guy like todd pletcher. So good his ability to stay cool through. Everything is what. I'm kinda getting from him. He's very he seems like a very home. Cool guides very level headed Things get thrown out and many deals with it and in a lot of people can't handle the pressure and a lot of people can't handle I mean think about it. He's got people giving a millions and millions of dollars worth of horses. That i mean. That's all want him. That goes good and bad. And you're going to be able to take that and withstand that. And i think that he's he's so knowledgeable with the horse and he's so good at dealing with people and i think that it's just i think it's just kind of snowballed together and It's just kind of made him. This fantastic guy. I mean i owners talked to him and everything and he's very open and very honest and And i think that that goes a long way being honest with your partners and You know like i said Keep keeping an open. Mind to everything in the barn and and trying different things and going over each horse and and trying to help out. I mean i think his operations we started so early. We started at like four in the morning. i mean he was. They're going over every horse in a line and And that's what. I do know. Because because i of saw him do that i go over every horse every day and It makes a big difference. It really does So you know giving attention to everybody. And he's got a heck of a lot more horses than i do so But but if he can do it and he can take you know the the the attention to each and every horse i sure as heck could do it with with the the amount of horses i have now so so that's got him and then i really respect him and i really liked the way he runs things and i'm sure he's gonna go down in the hall of fame is one of the best horse trainers around so i hope that he does. I wish him nothing but the best. I've seen the operation. I've seen it firsthand and and seen him walk down and and go through every horse. I've seen the the exercise. Riders come out from across the shadow. Almost in a line is that they're coming to the paddock. Before a race and brain him give a leg up to those guys and and his operation is just so clockwork much like his mentor. D wayne lukas. He learned from one of the greatest of all time. In of course as you said probably gonna go down as one of the greatest of all time. would you talk to brittany. Don't be afraid to throw that statistic out that i gave you. Nearly twenty percent of your horses have won so far his win rates only twenty two point eight so you can throw that atom. Yeah he come back with multiple kentucky derby and breeders cups and don't worry about any of that don't worry about that i got the percentage got the percentage great start to her career for brittany vandenberg. Who is my special guest here. On trainer talk presented by facebook tipton forty seven of her first one hundred sixty. Three starters have found their way to the winter circle. No doubt there will be many more to come As you look at your future brittany and you went through some of the different goal setting things that you work with your team on and and how all that comes together but you talked about. Maybe not growing too fast. How many horses do you have. Now how many would you like to have in an ideal world okay. So so towards the end of the year me and my owner kind of talked with each other and we had a few horses. We were up to close to twenty horses at one point but with the way that Cove hit and everything we said. We just don't wanna spend another january with all these horses so we kind of pick and choose which ones We kind of thought we could spare with and get them claimed in the right spots and we did so now. We're down to about ten horses. And i mean we're looking to get more but But we just we. We downsized january. We just thought. Let's let's just see where things play out. And this is where i said that my my one owner he really. He's a real numbers guy. He really looks at things and says okay. This is what makes sense. This is what doesn't make sense Numbers wise So so we did. Downsize for january. But you know we are looking to to claim and get more horses and you know in by in all kinds of stuff but We we decided to take a little turn. Like i said for january. Get down but but I'm looking when i say not grow too fast Is is where that whole learning curve comes in that i talk to you about and I don't wanna grow faster than i'm learning. I guess i could put that I in words. I don't i don't want to be growing too fast to where I got all the on my plate. And i cannot give each and every horse one hundred ten percent. I want every horse in the barn to get one hundred and ten percent no matter what the price tag of that animal we love. All of our horses Every horse gets gets treated the same. And i feel like if we start growing too fast You know. I don't want any of that to lack. So the horse number that i i've set out is twenty. That's where i kinda wanna be at. I think that that's a great number That gives me time to ride every one of those horses. Because i still like to ride on horses in the morning that gives me time to ride each tourists to feel them out to to pay attention to all those horses And i you know. A big part of this game is getting good grooms in good health. So i mean all of our our grooms and everything they go through a process with me that we kind of figure out you know. Do we like this guy. Is he good for our team. We really make it a big team effort and to find people to add to that team in such a hurry. It just doesn't work so so i've got enough people and enough guys in enough help and enough knowledge. I feel that. I could run a twenty horsepower and very comfortably and still stay in the green with all of our numbers. So that's kind of where i'm at with that so when i say don't grow too fast i mean i got a number in my head that i know that you know i can work with or down to about the final. Two minutes of this edition of trainer talk. It is really flown by and brittany. Vandenberg is my special guest brittany. Your fiance chris. Amy has ridden more than forty one hundred winners in his career. He is a highly accomplished jockey. Multiple greatest stakes victories to his credit. You give them a leg up in. Let's say he doesn't give your horse. The best derides Boy how does that dynamic work. Okay well also yeah okay so so. When i started happening it was like okay. How do i tell this guy what to do. I can't tell them what to do. But we kinda you don't. Chris is someone i can. I just I feel so comfortable with him when he knows so much. You've been around for so long and You know the fact that he's kinda here with me and he kind of sees how the horses go and everything. We kind of have a regiment. I put my full trust into head. I don't talk to him at all about the rates. 'cause i know if i do i'll screw up his train of thought so what we do. Is we go over replace we go over raises. He goes over. Replays like crazy forever. It's not just mine. But he goes over replays like crazy for every horse and I trust whatever he whatever decisions he makes out there as a writer. I know things happen in a split second. So i'm the last person to wanna blame riders. I'll take the blame on myself If he thinks that he made a wrong decision in that time feel tell me and And i'll say okay that's fine. I mean it's not to say who wouldn't do that. I mean as as a writer. I've made the wrong decision several times. I mean like. I said when the gates open everything happens so fast. It's easy to watch on camera So we kind of have we kind of have it down pat. I mean he goes out there. I put one hundred percent trust in him. And i kinda. I kinda do that. With most of the riders. You'll never hear me give a rider instructions from writing. I just know how things happen. And i expect my riders to go over replays and to know how the horse runs and give them enough credit. That that you know that. I know that they've done their homework and Let them do their job. That's why there's a professional so aside. Let them do their job. I just make sure. I bring a horse over to. The product is ready as i possibly can ready to win. That's that's my biggest thing. We are very competitive. We come over there when we settle horse. We know we're ready to win. And if we don't we congratulate the heck out of the person that does but we come over to fire in the writers always know when they get a leg up their horses ready so that doesn't stay on that there you have it brittany vandenberg ladies and gentlemen brittany listened really appreciate the visit. We're just about out of time. will encourage people to go and follow your operation and really appreciate you taking time to tell your story.

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Climate Change with Fmr. Secretary of State John Kerry

Amy Schumer Presents: 3 Girls, 1 Keith

39:56 min | 1 year ago

Climate Change with Fmr. Secretary of State John Kerry

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And you'll probably hear throughout a number of these podcasts Gene in the background lake right now laughing or he's just discovering his voice so he's just those little screams he's a sweet happy baby. He's happy little guy and now I feel like a little bit responsible for you know trying to do what I can to from do right. Yeah do right. How am I going to make myself better? How are we going to make this world better to leave behind for little gene? Firmer fucking baby. You know so you worry about that. Yeah I'm thinking about that. A little bit service on and a grandson batting had to say that now you gotTa do some Shit Wa. I WANNA nosy. You GotTa give me a list of things that have to do. Give me a list. I spent a lot of time thinking about global warming. So I'm happy. Yeah I do not see little babies. Schiff freaks me out tank. Good thing they gotta do. Stop this when you take one of those big hot steamers wipe twice in done. Okay now just go digging around on there and wipe it up and clogging up your toilets. Okay that's a lot of toilet paper. You can buy a renewable toilet paper. You could use less plastic bottles you can vote for. People vote for politicians WHO BELIEVE CLIMATE. Change is real okay. I'll stop shop when you told Keith to stop wiping as well forget that we all want you to keep wiping. Well okay. Please continue to way to sit. Classics Paper Straws. Now and stop throwing things out the window Yankees Keith. Thinks it's okay to take a sandwich and toss it out the window with the wrapper on it. But I'm not going to give up all my funds so when you fast food do you just like launch everything madness. He was trying to talk to me like that's what everybody does does this morning. He was like I mean you know. We all used to throw things out the window. Overdraft like an apple core eighties. Maybe when I was a kid but now we know better. So it's like a small change and plus you get hit. Somebody whole world is not like your baseball stadium. What are you GonNa do to help the environment? I mean this morning when I couldn't turn the shower off like my carbon footprint COUPLA little I'm would just leave it on I scream Chris. Chris Amy's husband. I can you try to turn the shower off and then I walked out of the room and you know it wasn't easy but I knew us. That porn voice around my husband occur. Drop the towel great best friend. Chris is actually a really on me about that stuff. If the A C is on he's close the door that he sees on he's like we're only using glass bottles and just as a farmer. He's just more aware of you. Know that stuff and not being wasteful food and whatever and. I'm always like shut up you hippie but now that we have a baby I realize like we got to try to better see. You got a small baby. Yeah we haven't gone. Turns FOURTEEN ANY LAYING DOWN? I gotTA protect my baby but at fifteen whatever we gotta attitude to favor. Shit this is Kevin Kane our producer. Keith roughly when you're was born yes reflective moment like I got to stop doing this Keith. Visit off track betting. And what we what was going Yeah did I actually did have that for second or a couple of days and then you realize it i. You'll be alright. What was was there. No consequence Keith. Like eat what you think about the consequences of any of your actions like do you. Yes everybody does that. Everybody has those reflections home. I should have did. This shit was fucked up over there but but now with my son I was like I just got to make sure he's good. Yeah that's all I had to do. My thing was to take care of him right. He is good. Yeah he was good. That's why I'm that's why global warming. I'm like you're on your own now by well. Don't you gotTA think look? I got two more Spiderman. Movies left that cares about a couple of war. He measures time and laser light shows and marvel movies. You are just dumb at the end of the day. She's very smart to measure. How much sick bed facing phase of Basic Mutasa? Bej Key shots. Do you tell your kids that you love them. You like that kind of or is it more like only on special occasions. They know Everybody does table as a real dad. Thank me why are you going to do that dead? I want you to love someone and that is. Why are you going to do that? I got a good dad tail. Please okay so he wanted to ask my dad permission to ask me to marry him so he was gonNA decide. He's GONNA drive to Maryland to ask them in person. He's got in the room with them and he was like how I want to ask you something and then my said. Did you get engaged to Rachel? He's like no is going to ask your permission at my dad. Said we don't have any cash for you just so you know I cash which is somehow more offensive than money. You know. You don't have any cash and you know what I was. GonNa ask you direct like. Maybe we could trade her for like a goat or something big that. I know I think my dad said the words older go. Yeah they agree that I was maybe worth one of their like. Yeah just kind of functioning goat. He was coming to look for your. Yeah why are you going to do that? Dad Love? My Dad wasn't around that long but I love them. You know told me a Lotta Shit. Do you remember any of the advice gave you any device well for the crippen a deck deck put a CRIMP in Adak. What's up? I don't understand like take your car when you cheat right. When you're on the deck up you put a crippling attack so visa. Now cut the deck you. GonNa cut it away. I want you to cut it and exact place. That's good stuff. Oh that's how this prints we see before us. You give you information that you have. Tom And I worked my dad. My Dad also pass on information like me and my sister. We would play poker with him and we were little girls playing and like if one of us tried to cheat or something. He would like slammed his hand on the table. And be like if this were real game. You'd be shot in the head right. Yeah Yeah it definitely left an impression. You can see that Dan wouldn't it be nice to just save the stress and have someone pick out the perfect outfit for you for your next night out? That's where stitch fix comes in stitch. Fix is a personal styling service. That delivers clothes shoes and accessories. Hand selected by stylist right to your door. It's personalized and easy to use. You can just send your personal stylist and note about whatever you have going on like that upcoming date night and they send you five items. You can try on the comfort of your own home. No dressing rooms no driving to the store. It's so easy stitch. Fix isn't a subscription. So you're not locked into anything so whether it's date night or every day you can lean on your stylist for that new outfit confidence boost. Go TO STITCH FIX DOT COM to sign up today so for some reason. Okay so I heard that John Kerry was on. Martha'S VINEYARD. Who was the senator who was the secretary of State Vietnam War veteran and John Carey for some reason agreed to be on? It's such a bad idea for people that I think. A are a little shocked by it and they say yes he like. A big fan of the podcast. Is that how you hook? Such a huge fan has never miss an episode so the good news is the John Carey. Wants to do our podcast. The bad news is that spotify for the first time intervened and they said they don't want all of us who begins in there together and they want just me to interview him. So you guys are finished. John Kerry doesn't WanNa hear you also offer. Well let's crippen. Denver spotify was protecting John Kerry from something. He had no idea. That's right yeah. They know he loves the environment and hates garbage so they cleaned us. That's right human. Equivalent of toxic shock syndrome are not going to interview him so last night. We had a whole meeting for the first time. We've never met about this podcast ever and so we had our first meeting after a couple bottles of wine and I said well you guys you know. Even though spotify is trying to protect John Kerry from your filthy mouths one. You give me questions and I'll ask them and I wrote down here questions so Yeah it's time I'M GONNA I'm GonNa Interview John Kerry now can you guys? Can you guys get? Outta HERE. Really? He doesn't WanNa meet you. Don't WanNa see you guys. Yeah I don't know if you saw it in the paper or digitally Iceland. They're totally losing their is really. Are they going to change their name? wonder Waterland Clam. There's on the UH. We're not doing those happening right now we are. Oh Yeah it's happening. Yeah I'm sorry. I didn't do that on purpose. That's not my like. Oh God I'm sorry well I no. One listens to this podcast. You should have sat true. It's very few list there. You're when you're out there you're out there so mostly you know I just became a mom and now I'm thinking about actually the world leaving by the future I feel like global warming is of everything. I feel the least educated about that. I WANNA be educated and it's I think I've been kind of putting it off because I know once I really you know let in the gravity of the situation it'll be all I'm thinking about is my guess would be yes. Yes Oh it's all you're thinking about everything you think about should be in the context of what is happening globally now because it's accelerating so much. Yeah I've been involved in the issue since the eighties eighties. Yeah Yeah I remember being school and reading and learning about acid rain and and they would show you a picture of the decaying statue of Liberty. But you took steps that. Did it end acid rain? Acid rain damage. Well I was It was fortuitous. I was an fortuitous. Means Lucky Okay. You just gotTa State School for maybe a year. Okay I was. I was Happen to be in the right place at the right time. I was Lieutenant Governor Massachusetts and I worked with the governor of New Hampshire John Sununu and the governor of Ohio. Dick Celeste and we focused on acid rain because lakes and streams were dying. We're losing fish there. Were there were whole lakes where nothing would live. Because of the acidity that came in the rain and it came from the sulphur that went up into the atmosphere from call from coal burning and the power yes ugly so we came up with a mechanism that was actually based on how the market place works. You know supply and demand. Yes and it was called cap and trade. We were able to buy the limits on what people could put out and you trade this way and it actually created a marketplace so They worked. I mean we put it in place we put it in the clean air. Act actually when I went to the Senate years later and it worked it actually has reduced. Now you don't hear about acid rain is problem. What's happened is the ideological extremism that exists. Today right has made discussion of cap and trade a complete. No no okay. People won't talk about it they won't even entertain it something we could do. Yeah with respect to carbon dioxide emissions one of the largest contributors to greenhouse gases are politics have gotten so polarized so screwed up that we can't get done. What is that? What makes sense? Yeah so we're not getting anything done sufficient to deal with the problem of global climate change. I'm really Charles Schumer so I've spent some time around politicians and it seems to me like there are a couple of different sort of categories of politicians. There's some real earnest people who actually want to make a difference and then there's some like this is my job. How many sort of categories apologies? Are there like two main categories? You know in. Sort of what motivates them reason to question. I've never never been asked that and I don't think no no. It's an interesting. No it's a really interesting question I I think there are probably two major categories but there are just infinite number of categories. People teenager well. I think it's the people who are just there to do the people's business and who are really earnest and and uncorrupted by it and want to do the right thing and some of them will vote in a way that they know might lose their seat and they lose their seat. I know people who did that when we did the stimulus package when we had the crash of two thousand eight economy was really on the edge and we had to pass the bailout There were friends of mine in Congress who who took a courageous vote and they did lose their seats and they knew they would then. There are the people who will never do that. I mean there's the other side of the ledger. There are people who are craving just to be there and being there becomes the goal in and of itself and they lose sight of what the Constitution requires. The country requires and they just will not speak out And unfortunately that's where a lot of I don't mean to be partisan but the Republicans right now are are really. I think really bad place. They know they will tell you privately. They know that this guy is not on the up and up and that he's He's worth impossible to tell the truth without partisanship is truth in in cap and trade like so those that phrase is that. Oh Yeah Yeah sorry I just my mind. I have those earning disabilities but I was just wondering. I've done some work trying to help. End Gun Violence. And if you say gun control. There's just certain words where it triggers people and they've been conditioned to so is that sort of like is that cap and trade became for this has become that for a lot of people. Yeah it's become Just something that shuts people's minds the minute they hear. You think you're you're gonNa tell you what you have to do right They've been conditioned and it's it's pretty automatic and they think it's also Unfair and things. It isn't but people lose track of that. Once it gets branded right has been branded and is that something like the guy took your thought away. I know I have no thoughts going on seriously. Just zero okay. So you're me you. You're you're pretty but you're not intimidatingly. Pretty nobody's getting you. Thank you very much so I fly a lot. I see everything that yeah the best way to watch. That's what I always say so someone who's like me who knows this is happening. What are the things that we can really let people know about that are going to happen in the next where you are right? You'RE ON MIAMI BUT WE'LL MIAMI problem in Miami is in serious trouble. Yeah and Bangladesh in the island state's. It's really intimidating. Because the ice is melting where because of warmer water as the world gets warmer? The temperature rises. You have the expansion of water. So Rises Secretary of State. I went to Greenland. I went to Foul Bard. Which is weapon northern Norway? I went to Antarctica so I could learn. I wanted to listen to the scientists exactly and what I learned was horrifying because those scientists will tell you unabashedly clearly. This is what is happening. And this is what is going to happen unless you do. The following which reduce the greenhouse gas emissions. We're not reducing them now. They went up last year are as it despite us. China were the second biggest dependent. The biggest defenders China China is twenty five percent of the world's emissions. The United States is fifteen percent of the missions. Europe as a block is about eleven percent world's emissions so you take those three entities you're over fifty percent of the world's emissions so we could we could we tw- There are twenty developed countries which they took the biggest steps of all We could step back from the greatest danger. But the problem is amy that so many of them are making the mistakes of the past and putting in place coal fired power plants in China right now is bringing on major amount two hundred and fifty megawatts of coal fired power. India's bringing on a very significant amount. It is exactly the opposite of what we ought to be doing. And it it's a killer. Which is why I and others are now reaching a point. I we're GONNA have to reconnect to voters all across the world where they vote and force change I mean this requires a level of militancy. I think yeah and that's where I am. Now come full circle. I came back from Vietnam. I protested the war as part of Earth Day as part of the Civil Rights Movement Women's movement. Then all of these things and and I thought okay. I've done my part but every year everybody's going to have to come out. And and fighting for this for average devote when we elected Donald Trump uh-huh nineteen percent of the people. Eighteen to twenty four turned out to vote. Does that surprises me. I heard about that kind of when it was too late. I started going to colleges and stuff like that to try to get people to vote will. Do you have to do now? Is All of us? Go Out and talk to people about the importance of exercising your right of citizenship. There's just a dearth of the darker. There's there's not enough leadership That is offering people truth that an and a sense of possibility that they believe it and and the result is cynicism is grown on the right in the center on the laugh. Neha all across the board people are pissed off. Why because government hasn't delivered It's just not delivering. Yeah Yeah. Donald Trump won the presidency with only fifty four point. Two percent of eligible Americans voting people who are eligible vote. Only fifty four percent came out. You get more Americans come out I guarantee you. The the vast majority of Americans are in the right place. They want to solve these problems. They're ready to do it. And we will win back. Our Future. Have you found any tactic that is effective? Like with my talking to people about gun violence. There's a population of people where I feel like they can't be reached. You've got to sit down with people. It'd be humble about it You got to kind of say. Hey let's talk about. What is it that you think is fake about this? Or what do you think in? Draw them out loud conversation. That's what we're going to do. I'm I'm starting in organizational structure with the former secretary of energy or any Monet's And we are going to go to campuses. We're going to go to states. That are red states and sit with people. I've coal miners. I want to sit with a bunch of coal miners. As as you know okay. How's your life going right? What's what what is it that you think could be done here. Are you aware that this and this and this or the consequences of what happens and talk it through with them and have an alternative money in renewable energy? Aren't their jobs shots? The Fastest Growing Job America. Today is solar power technician. The second-fastest job is wind. Power Turbine technician. So there are about three hundred thousand of those jobs. In America there are fifty two thousand coal related folks. Yeah and and what we have to do is just do. A democracy allows us to do. Just talk to each other and breakthrough. Mom was an early recycler. She was homework. I'm mazing hat. Like how did she find mother? I don't know where it came from. I think it was an inherent in her upbringing. She was she was an early girl. Scout leader fifty years is girl scout leader involved in community so she read a lot and she was inspired. I think by Rachel Carson as many of us were Rachel Carson Limited. Rachel Carson was an extraordinary woman who was a civil servant not a scientist but was fascinated by the ocean and by nature. She was probably the most read Arthur in America in the nineteen fifties. Wow but she wrote final book. I think I found buck was silent spring which wrote about the problem of pesticides. Ddt particularly and the government was lying about it and it is true that DDT saved a lot of soldiers lives during the war because people fighting in the Pacific they had DDT was able to kill the mosquitoes. Less people got malaria and so forth but she understood and so she wrote this brilliant bucket which inspired a generation really created the mass movement of the nineteen sixties on the environment and Earth Day. Nineteen seventy sounds like a good movie. That's a great movie. What does she look like? Was she a little hippy? Kind of no. No no no I aligned. Describe her that way sorry. I'm just trying to kind of put myself Like trying to go but I mean the movie people do. They want to do now. Jennifer Lawrence is going to get it. Oh it's fine. Do you think you can see combat? Is that the most life defining moment for anybody who goes through it getting shot at and having people trying to you and you're trying to kill them and you're sort of this tool if you will policy living life and death that way makes living that much more tangible more real. Put you in touch with the value of life. You think you're going to be killed and you're not it's a big deal. I experienced that when I went parasailing. Actually you could experience. I am scared of when you were protesting the war when you came home which is a huge deal get arrested yes how many times. I think one solely just once twice but once we spend night in in a makeshift jail was an exhilarating experience. What was that like being arrested? Here in DC the women's protesting Kavanagh's confirmation as I think I read about that actually wrote about so we've both read each other's work we go about our neutral criminal activity. We're ex-cons what do you think? Oh but I wanted to know. What do you order at Legal Seafood Chowder? Do you put any Tabasco in it or anything crackers or just or just horseradish horseradish chowder. Itself Yeah no and I order Some CLAMS CLAMS HALF. Shell Cherry stories on both love them. What about wasters? I'm not a huge oyster. Now Yeah I tell me you know. Some of them are just too big and it feels like you're eating and Oregon and then just kind of like a you know I mean compared to a clam I'd clams have a taste. There's a repeal of the what sports do you still play. I play hockey. I ride a bike. You play ice hockey. Oh my God. It's fun when you're in a hockey fight A real long time. Yeah but We figured well these some questions. I host this podcast with three other comics and they had a couple of questions for you and also I should say that these questions were written after we'd had a lot of wine. Okay so Bridget Everett. On them without anyone at all. Yeah I'm sorry. She said Secretary Kerry is how she wants to address you. How how do you mostly like to be addressed now John? Jk GRANDPA call me GRANDPA. I don't think I'm ready for that. But she said Secretary Kerry. You have a great head of hair. Would you shave it if you could save it? If I could save what the world she didn't specify the world the world of course okay in a nanosecond. Don't WanNa see that. I saw that once when I went into the military and within thirty seconds I was sure and really it was a pretty. I didn't dare liberty when I have the right to really Protesting the war. I don't have a face shape that could support short haircut either Keith said. This is Keith. Robinson he's comedian. He said if we don't stop our thing. When is it all going to go down for that is a lot of why? Yeah Yeah does cosmic. When is it all going to go before? He said that he said I'm interested in climate. Change a little bit okay. Well possibly it along down during our lifetimes. Less we drink a hell of a lot more wind. Yeah then you want to know the difference and then this is Rachel Feinstein and she wants to know. What gets you butthurt not going there. Yeah okay on. That's a long bike. Ride a long bike ride. Yeah that's a great answer is one thing. Yeah are big conversation. I shouldn't have ended with such was by that time. It was STAG's leap Cabernet. Yeah our teeth were red. No Gallo no no no Gallo no boxes now the heavy hitters. What do you what do you drink? What do I drink if you drink? I make an extraordinary rum drink. Actually well it's the big. It's the family secret. What's I mean? Can I mean how serious stuff different rum's dark way you can come over and try it? I'll be over before you're even test beach and you have a run drink. God No umbrella. No no well. I'm really really glad that you came over. Thank you so. Thank you for having me and disturbing your precious time here. Why did you say yes to this? I was pretty totally. Ask You buy so. I hope you don't regret it on your waist has been fun. Happy Spray Conversation. I think I just hope everybody will care about what they can do for. Climate change deal with that vote. Vote vote thirty so only way to do it. Thank you sign your luck. Good luck with gene. I interviewed John. Kerry you're you're talking to someone who interviewed a secretary of state today. That's yeah and the first moment I could see the regret in his eyes that he said. Yes to this. Use The word fortuitous and I go and what is Judas me and he goes and it was like the first one. He goes lucky. You know like you just Kinda like 'cause he was like always is she going to fuck with me. Like is this mistake but I just like reminded him like. Hey I went to a state school and we don't have a lot of just like you know really don't and then what was funny. Was he a couple times. After that he used a word he would realize it was too big and then he would say he dumped it right down for me. I asked him your questions. Oh yeah he didn't unfortunately feel comfortable saying what made him but her yeah. I don't know big upset and Keith. Your question of when is it all going to go down questions he was like. Wow that is a big question. And he said in in our lifetimes. But I think he doesn't know that you are in your mid seventies wrapping. Anyway we'll probably won't even see another rainfall but bridge. He would shave it to save it. Who C- Guy? Sometimes you just gotTa know your way how to get in their hearts. I'm sure we do abounded our best. Yeah it's keystone. Well do you do on? Cav Give us a pound pass. Yeah Kevin Gene our producer. You fucking asshole. Didn't give Kevin with Kevin Bills. Go Back Kevin Pacu. I wake me fuck off like a weight dummy fucked off do you want. What do you want to pass? Do you WANNA do? You WanNa pass sounded Mrs Batten meddler. Bette Midler who bridget. Just what Sauber? Just show and then. Bridget had dinner with her. 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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 3/9/21--Guest Lindey Wade

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 3/9/21--Guest Lindey Wade

"Maximum security has been defeated. King for this is the jason beam horse racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires your daily home for horse racing news interviews wagering discussions and more. Here's your host. Jason be a router they good. Tuesday morning meow. While come in the jason beam horse racing podcast brought to you by twin spires. It is a tuesday. it's march the ninth of the year. Twenty twenty one and broadcasting live from beautiful black diamond washington. If you want to look at a map little tiny dot due south east of Seattle about forty miles. And that's where. I reside at least for part of the year factor. Two months from tomorrow's opening day grants pass so that means Two months minus one week. And i'll be i'll be gone for the summer. I only have five days between grants pass ending and colonial starting. And it's about a five day. Drive from grants pass to richmond. Virginia so i told jill. Burn my boss at colonial. I said you better have the backup ready just in case all update from the road but everything goes smoothly. I i so look forward to that cross country trip every year. It's so fun for me. Like i get to just you know. Put the phone down for several hours a day and listen to new music and see the country in the last year i went kind of a new direction so most of it was new. I'd never been through kansas and missouri and kansas city. And all those kind of places. So i can't wait. Enjoy getting to drive and i haven't decided i. I guess i have to go the fastest route. This time. i don't really last year. I kind of took a little bend down to denver. Because i'd never been to denver and then went through kansas that way but who knows we'll see very excited for today's guests. Jackie lindy wade gonna join us on the show and now talk some of sam houston spin riding at the texas circuit for i think ten years now Except started in louisiana. Wrote up in chicago for a while. We'll talk about all of that. His career the current sam huston meat and more looking forward to catching up with lydia. Wait for the first time here on the program. I i may have a. I don't wanna say accidentally. I may have double booked. Tomorrow's show accidentally but it was. I wanted both guests on. I won't even explain to you. There's a chance we might have two guests tomorrow. But there's also chance. I might just split them up and One is not neither are lesser horse player. Thursday type guests. But i'm i'm arranged. I really should get a producer to churchill. I think it's time to pony up time to hire someone to help me. Control the madness that is booking i. I used to do sports radio in portland like as fill in guy and you know. I do in a week attack. But the show's all had producers. So all i had to do was show up in broadcast and do prep work but the producer would message me back. Oh i got you know. Brad from yahoo sports and i had you know this guy from From blazers edged. And i had this guy. I was telling me the story. I you can hear the interview on youtube. I had pete rose on my show and pete. I knew from from river downs because his best buddies the chart collar there. And i i was so excited like it was my first week of doing sports radio as they canceled. Jim rome so i was the the fill in before the real guy started the next week or the new guy i should say and i remember. The manager told me. Don't look at the emails man they're going to hate your guts. Because you're not. Jim rome so i said okay. That's fine. i won't look at email. So what are the of course. I looked at the emails. But remember i told the guy said you know. I'm i'm somewhat friendly with pete. Rose i maybe i can get him on. The shoney's think can be amazing. It's local sports radio portland. They're not getting big guests like that. So pete rose came on my show and was and it was a good interview. And i remember looking at the emails and they were all like nobody cares about baseball. We only care about blazers here. Like just talking about the blazers. It was july. We don't want to talk about the blazers. I like baseball. So but anyways. Yeah having a producer rules. But i you know i have no excuse for booking or not booking the show to my job and So i think the good news with that little extra double booking. Guesting thing that might be happening is are great guests. Both oakland themed. nancy holt. As i mentioned yesterday is gonna join us to talk about the rebel The other guest. I won't mention. Because i you know like i said i'm not sure exactly how and when we're going to but we will get it all figured out. So that's what's coming up this week. Of course our buddies at the jury will be joining us. Stick around for the end of the lindy. Wait interview too. I mean. I think actually lindy did a really great job i you know. I've been fortunate in doing the show for over five years now to interview people from all walks of the racing world different trainers jockeys set horses. Actually i have interviewed horses. We we used to do a bit. Where i would i would interview the horse and the horses inner monologue would talking about and then i think one time i did it like i did a whole interview and then i just audio horse going am i. Oh no kidding so you. You didn't like it and stuck out five deep on the turn. It was pretty lame honestly but you know. I mean media. People announcers breeders retirement. People i mean we've what we've hit pretty much every spectrum we've had track people like track track people do the tracks groom the tracks take care of the tracks we've had starters on the show scott jordan the starter from churchill came on. We've hit pretty much. Everything and i've learned in doing that. That being an interviewee the person who is is being interviewed is a skill that i think people get better at We've had you know we've had people who were very young on the show new into the sport and there's a lot of times you can tell. There's a timidity. Is that a word timid timidity in their answers because they just don't know they don't have a lot of practice in it. It certainly coming on this show. I would hope is never a nerve wracking thing for people. But i've had guests who before we go on like say that they're nervous and i you know i try to remind him. Hey first of all the podcasts. So if you wanted you know if you don't like how you answered something. Just tell me mike. I marked down the time. And i go back and edited out like it's really easy and for added stuff but you know it's it's not easy for everybody and you know there's people who work in broadcasting the easiest interviews for me or the people who work in broadcasting because they know the drill you know they're going to take the question and run with it like my dream for any interview not dream but you know that i love to hopefully ask a question. That is not a yes. No question and is something that the interviewee can expound upon and you know and ask it in such a way so they could like yeah. You know it's actually this. And here's why and i think that a lot of younger folks are less and less experienced interviewees a lot of times. They just don't know that or have that skill necessarily they're just responding in more of a a conversation away you know and so it's cool to to to talk to people who have kind of gotten better at that skill but i also don't mind talking to people who are learning it because there's no other way to learn it other than to do it and so But bringing that back to lindy like you can just tell that he's good at it. You know he takes a question and runs with it He'll he'll bring in a side story if he thinks it goes well with the question and to me like those are the best people interviewed. Because usually you know there's only so much information for me to find on a research thing You know when. I look around the internet and my goal is always for something new to come out but you kinda have to probe a little bit into maybe areas. You think new stuff might come out from If you do that. And so i just i thought lindy We've had a lot of jocks on here. I just think he did a really really great job and so wanted to mention. But when i said stick around for the end it's kind of a fascinating little little story to a very important horse of the last fifteen years That he was involved with. I don't know if it's out there in the ether everywhere yet so so make sure to tune in for that. I mean i want you to tune in for the whole show every time. But i understand that. That's not always the case. Do on a real quick. We did not get around to talking about the big races at aqueduct. Which was Going on saturday. Of course the gotham stakes. One of the center stage races on the the big saturday card and favoritism going the way of highly motivated. The chad brown runner who had been so so good at two on the shelf for a little bit was bet. Down a four to five and freedom fighter the baffert runner that down to two one and then you had five to one on crowded. Trade was the chad brown. And then everybody else double digits. The public really having this as a a strong horse race with a little bit of a third horse in there. Let's take a listen to john embryos call of the gotham stakes at ecuador and the rough from the outside. It is freedom fighter who flashes a speed quickly opens up by to say a capo. Canes running in second wave burns on the outside third and crowded trade is next in fourth. Wipe the slate moving up inbetween. Horses down towards the rail steadying. There was highly motivated. Highly motivated had to steady as the field. Crossover from the shoot to the main track and it is freedom fighter with the lead here over weight. Burn through a quarter in twenty four and one fifth seconds. Then it's the trio of crowded trade. Capo cain wipe. The slate is down at the rail. Highly motivated is running insects on the outside. The reds next in seventh and atlantic road is in eighth freedom. Fighter leads here by three quarters of a length longshot. Way burn on the outside runs in second and the opening half was running forty eight seconds and freedom fighters in frontier by a half length waiver and is in second it's a lengthened and a half to crowded trade wipe the slate is dropping back cop mccain is down towards the rail then highly motivated and the reds freedom fighter is the leader as they come for the top of the stretch way burn runs in second crowded trade up on the outside and third capo kane is fourth and then highly motivated in fifth. Three-quarters went and one twelve in four and here comes crowdi trade on the outside. Now grab the lead way burn continues to battle on doubted. The rams freedom fighter in third highly motivated is in fourth it is crowded trade and on the inside it is waivered crowded trade way berg continues to battle honours they come for the finish and the gotham way vernon crowded trade. Oh bank furnish wavered on the inside or crowded trade on the outside a terrific. Do in gotham well to answer john's question. It was way. Burn on the inside who to win it by knows. There was a couple of really nice fund long. Stretch battles to acqueduct on saturday that we were treated too and the gotham was certainly one of those. I thought the you know we burn was right along. I mean pretty much. A length ahead of crowded trade for much of the journey and it looked turning for home as though crowded trade was gonna kinda just go right on by. I would imagine that most of us as horse players and racing fans etc when we see a really high priced horse like labor who was forty six and a half to forty six and three quarters to one paid ninety five dollars and fifty cents to win when we see a horse with those big odds turning for home. I think we kind of just often assume that the horse is gonna pack it in right. There's a reason the horses is forty five to one fifty to one and i'll be honest when they turned for home. I was like well this high because highly motivated. He obviously he had trouble at the start and then when during the crossover had to check and he just never seem to settle into a great beet. They were not going fast. Twenty four and one for the opening quarter forty eight for the half won twelve and four and so he was not going to get some great contested setup. Freedom fighter was on the lead pretty comfortable getting some mild pressure from labor and but out of it still was not without a chance as they came by the quarter pole. I think his start and the the part of the races. They came onto the main track there where he had to check. I think maybe that caught up with him a little bit. Obviously i start starting a little while. Maybe the distance is not something he wants. But i didn't find it discouraging that he lost this race and As i said part of that was because i thought the top two ran well and it was a gutsy. Gutsy dig in from way. Burn to come back and win that race now. Crowded trade is a horse. Who'd only run once. He had just broken maiden from off the pace of ecuador act at the end of january and so for him in my opinion to make that leap forward to run. This big is pretty impressive and only career start number two Wavered had a couple of starts more of experience he finishes fifth that a maiden special way to belmont ran a good finish second. I mean especially with act and then broke his maiden in his third start out over the slop after dueling and kind of winning that dole and and holding on but all that being said like you know on paper he doesn't look like a fifty to one shot. And maybe that's where you know like when i'm watching the race there was so much going on saturday. Aquidneck was probably the the track i was. You know looking at the least and so it wasn't fresh in my mind. His resume as i was watching it and making that comment about. Oh this other horse just gonna blow by the fifty to one shop. But i mean you look at his past performances in. You're like fifty to one on this horse. I mean you know his second place finish. Got him and ninety one prison number. He got an eighty five for his maiden breaking win. Those were three months ago plus ago. Jimmy jerkins trevor mccarthy like you start going back and you're like oh man you know twenty two one. Maybe but you know the horse institute inside freedom. Fighter had been a little bit faster but had been on the lead ran behind concert tour. And you know he but he was sprinting. It stretching out just as the other ones are i. Guess what i'm saying. Is it just to me. He doesn't ring like a a true fifty. Even the number six capo kane. Who granted is a graded stakes winner but speed figures were not faster than way burn and yet he was eleven to one so to me. This was one of those ones where and this happens. A lot too by the way their horses who just get. I don't wanna say forgotten but everybody's looking at the big connections an insult like jimmy. Jerkins is some tiny barn right that we've never heard from. But everybody is fixated on the chad brown horses in the bob baffert horses in these races. And and i get that. This was one of those price horses. And i honestly thought that the horse i liked the tampa ran third at forty. Two one was kind of turning into one of these where he's just. They're just not that far behind the other horses to warrant the price being forty times more or twenty five times more and yet they were just gets a certain point where some horses just they kind of get dismissed and they are thought of and then you look at a more after the fact and again of course hindsight's twenty twenty but it's just hard to look at that race again and like i said maybe it's just because we know the results but it's hard to go look through that past performance to go. Is this horse that far behind some of these other ones. I mean wipe. The slate was coming off a terrible effort. Last time i just made win was good and he got a ninety But labor and running ninety-one before. I'm using prison numbers again but you know regardless of your number. I'm sure that there somewhat comparable in the fact that that horse gotta wait such a huge price again. Hindsight is is kind of crazy to think about you. Know as far as credit-rating. I mean i gotta think with crowded trade. That they're you know they're very encouraged. Of course you know. He made the lead you can. You could say that he hung just because he did make the lead briefly but it wasn't like he made a half length or or a lengthened front he you know he just kind of had a nose in front of it for a little bit. And then where. The horse re rallied to win by knows and so I think there's plenty of reasons to be encouraged about that horse. I i wouldn't even give up a highly motivated at this point. Because i thought he had enough trouble that you'd like to see him and this was just as i start you know of of this campaign to me. There's you know if he goes to the wood memorial. I gotta think he takes some money at the windows for sure Heavenly price lake avenue with a big big win. I was honestly a little against lake avenue and boy couldn't have been more wrong just the race set up nicely and she looked great. The top full stakes. This was a nice performance by chateau erase. That on paper looked like it had a lot of early speed and this happens. A whole lot doesn't It's not that it wasn't a you know. I mean for a for a six furlong race. Twenty two and four and forty six at acqueduct is not that fast. It's not crazy slow but you know i know the track. There is obviously not ever really blazing fast. Doesn't seem like and so. I don't know to me. It seemed a very reasonable pace and nobody was with chateau who broke beautifully but happy farm share the ride and those ones who i thought might be up there closer. Just didn't do any running. All the they made a little bit of a move to get to within a length and a half or two at one point but other than that it was just never setting up for them chateau and you're getting a very very easy. Wind butcher was a great great stretch battle. We had miss brazil search results kind of going at it. The entire way miss brazil on the lead and search results stocking from second just a length behind they They hooked up there at the in midstretch but to search results. Getting up to get the score in the final yards in An score victory in the butcher stakes of course preparation for the kentucky oaks. I'll be honest with you. I was seeing some chatter about the kentucky. Oaks futures stuff and i am very guilty of this and i'm not i'm not proud of it but i feel guilty of it of just i feel like the oaks division this year. I do not know a whole lot about who's in and who's who's good and and all that kind of stuff and so i don't know if that's on just me or or what but Certainly something. I need to start peaking at a little bit more Let's take a quick time out and want to get to our interview l. Anyway gonna join us right after this quick break. It is a tuesday edition of the jason beam horse racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires twin spires not only offers the best way to play the racist from your desktop or mobile device but we also have great offers for our players visit twin spires dot com slash offers to check out all of our great daily promotions from our players. Pick four bonuses to win. Sheri- thoroughbred to harness we have offers and promotions for all types of races and all types of tracks visit twin spires dot com slash offers to find out what operas are available to you the jason beam voicing podcast brought to you by twin. Spires is your home for daily thoroughbred horse racing conversation join host jason being has he discusses racing from around the country interviews jockeys trainers media personality and horse players every monday through friday. This show can be found at twin spires dot com or on itunes spreaker stitcher or wherever you get your podcast from the jason beam horse racing podcast brought to you by twin spires all right back here on the jason beam horse racing podcast brought to you by twin spires pleased to welcome in our next guest whose texas and oklahoma base journeyman riders. One almost thirteen hundred races in a thirteen year. Career is currently sixth in the ryder standings at sam houston race. Park very happy to welcome to the show. Lady how are you. Don't good jason. Thank you for having me. Yeah she takes time for today. It's a. it's an off day for racing in houston as we're speaking. Now what do to fill your days off right now well I mean the. The weather's been hasn't been very good this year compared to how normally is here in houston so usually i'm outside a lot I actually have tea time today. So that's But i mean it's been it's been pretty three down compared to how it usually is on hasn't signed nearly as much but we're making it. Who's the who's the best golfing jockey. i know. A lot of writers play on their other days off. I would probably say corey landry. Okay the one. That is the one that i've witnessed dom. Chris is very good as well. So between those two. I would say i'll you both. Those guys are very good. I just go around there. And i just hit if i hit the ball in the right direction. I'm doing good. I remember talking to chantal earlier this summer in. She said that she had taken it up. corey was kind of the impetus to that so but she said she was like all in taking lessons and play in five days a week and and doing the whole thing. It makes sense though. I mean i feel like a lot of trainers in golf. I was kind of curious to hear about that you you you mentioned the weather down there and obviously it's been strange to say the least. How did you make it through the big freeze a couple weeks ago. I was very fortunate. Actually i so. I live about four miles from the track and everything around with closer. The lights were the electricity without The water was out here at my play I lost water for one day. But i never lost electricity so i was very fortunate It really was. It was kind of crazy around year with with everything. Being closed grocery stores weren't open. I mean there was. There was nothing available really There was a couple of fast food places open but the lines were so long It was it was like nothing i've ever seen before. Honestly yeah i was talking to a buddy who lives in dallas and he was saying that his wife would went to a seven eleven and they had bottles of water front people were just stuff stuffing money under the door to to pay for it because they weren't open but they needed the water. And like i said you get an emergency situations like that and people need stuff just for survival. The meat of courses Is going you know going. Great guns right now. I think he has actually a little over halfway through at this point. has it been for you overall. it's been good i can't complain. I mean i'm i'm riding. I'm writing forces. I feel like. I'm writing. Good right now and i mean i have divorces under me i i get the job done I mean this year has been very competitive compared to two years i mean usually we have Sean who comes into sean parker And that's that's about it. You know then then. Kind of all the the texas writers this year There's multiple new faces so it makes it that much. More competitive stewart has joined texas recently ray lou and obviously it just like any circuit. I mean so much of it is getting on for the right trainers. And you know when you ride for steve or diaspora. You're probably gonna have pretty good meat down there broberg as well correct. Yeah i mean those guys are are are big names My the vegas guy. I don't really ride too much or any of those guys. I'm i ride We've been fortunate. I had a lot of success for bread. And so he's kinda. My i mean guy here in in texas and and i mean he you know. He went his share. He's not as loaded here as those guys are but but he definitely holds his own. He's been a longtime successful there. And obviously in has made big strides at some of the big circuits at this point. Yes yeah i mean when you watch him around around the country i mean. He's got. I mean he's got really nice sources just about anywhere. You look Here he he has a lot of texas bread. So i mean he. He used to be extremely big into the texas bred. Two year old program. I think they've kind of off on that a little bit I mean probably four or five years ago. If you were on a bret calhoun two year old you are. You're sitting pretty. You know what i mean. So but he's still. He's still got his his fair share of the texas breads and the young horses. That are coming up. What are ask about the the surfaces there obviously turfan throughout the season weather permitting but you know a lot of a source players we talk about biases and the tracks changing and stuff like that as a writer. I is that something you can tell on horses during the race you know whether certain parts of the track are good or or do you just have to kind of watch. The replays like the rest of us and maybe get a sense for how. It's playing that for me personally. My way of Doesn't have the track is flying by watching racist or prior to the race. That i'm in or Replays throughout the last the last week or so. You know kind of seeing where where the tracks playing more favorable A lot of times when you're on the best source some of the some of those things don't matter to too much but it's always you always wanna take place face and and take the best route. If you can way joining us here on the program so i know you're a louisiana. Bread does such a long great line of jocks that from that. Stay where you born into a racing family or had you. I kind of get into it. I i actually was. I mean so to say my my mom she she wrote for a few years before me. and then. When when she when i was born she was she groomed and she worked for A lot terrell stall he had a string in boozer city which is where. I grew up. by right there by louisiana down So i was always on the on the back side. you know running around as a youngster So i i met a lot of people that way and i think that's kind of how my career got started was just knowing those people And as far as my father goes he galloped Basically i think it's basically since he was old enough to know how you know and then and him and my mom met on the track so i was definitely around it because their their jobs evolved around it and i know you got started really early right you weren't you sixteen when you started We took it. Your licensed started riding apply. Yes i. I was very fortunate that my mom had ridden so she knew how was And how it worked. And she knew if i stayed in school That was going to get two big. Because i am a taller jockey if i would have stayed on kinda matt regime but i i personally don't think i would have made it on but when you get in a routine you know i mean and got into the writer mentality and eating and things like that at a young age so i think that really helped me. I made her actually made her a deal that So since i was so young. I had to had to drop out of school in order to to pursue writing so but i did make her a deal i would. I would definitely go back. And least get my. Ged for her. I'm for her and for myself and i did that a few years after i i i was riding and had a little experience under my belt and stuff i i went back to school and got my ged so so. I fulfilled that to her and she let me let me. You know. Pursue what i wanted to do i. I thought that was the least i could do. I'm going memory here but I know you started in l. a. d. in two thousand seven hundred sixteen. It wasn't the year prior when talamo had his big sixteen year old years louisiana downs. It was so alonzo king. Yana up them so did did seeing his success there at that young age did that kind of spur you to start when you did or were you planning on. Starting then anyways it was It definitely made me think about it more. But i said i'm gonna i'm gonna just see what happens you know i actually have to Trivia my start to my first agent. Ronald arguing. Because he i mean he he kind of guided me and took me under his wing and and showed me the things that i needed to do in order to get there and i learned so much from him in the four months i when i started riding hannah before i went to chicago i learned so much from him so i'll have to actually give him credit for for getting me started. I was gonna ask about chicago. What was it that made you choose to go up there. it was. It was strange. I was actually Sitting in the room at louisiana downs one day and Shane lavi let just come down from From chicago and he was ryden was riding. I think predominantly for race. A bill in louisiana downs the same summer that i started and we were watching Hawthorn on tv and him. And i got to talking about it and i was just just telling him how i'd love to just get out of louisiana because i grew up there and you know i'd spend whole life there i just wanted to experience the racetracks and He told me. If i was serious about it he would put me in touch with an agent a good agent and And i mean the rest is history. Pretty much i I told him all the serious about it. And he put me in touch with an agent by the name of j feet or and I mean we. When i went up there i mean we just took off so it was. I was very fortunate to have those connections you. It's interesting because i think a lot of people probably think that you know riders just decide. Hey i'm going to go to you know to california. I'm gonna go here. I'm going to go there. But getting the right agent before you make that move is a big part. I talked with lou recently and he was. He was kind of saying you know. Look i'm trying to find my circuit right. Like he's been florida he's been new jersey's been upstate new york. He's been in new york And he said he got an opportunity to work with jose santos and for him. That was was a good enough reason to try. I mean that is a big piece of deciding kind of what circuit to attack right to me that the main piece i mean i think i think the the relationships that they that they have especially being like a new rider going somewhere new know I think it's very important to to have someone who's already formed relationships with people That way they can just kinda give you give you that opportunity that you need So i think they're. They're very important as far as making decisions as to where you're going i was very fortunate As far as i went to chicago. I didn't i didn't know j. at all and I knew i knew that he had chris. Amy and at that time. Chris amy was they were doing really well in chicago. And i said i'm just gonna i'm gonna take the opportunity and and take the leap you know. I mean i had spoke with j. And he told me all the business that he had and he just had. Chris amy and i it would work really well Sometimes sometimes they promise you things and you know. Sometimes it doesn't come come to be true but everything everything was true When i got up there chicago so i was very fortunate that it worked out that way. How did you like living in chicago just as a city. It's obviously much different than louisiana. It was definitely a shell shock. I remember before. I left louisiana. I went to a bass pro shop. And i was like. I'm gonna get me a nice jackets and to take the chicago with me. You know something. I can wear all winter here. The winters are cold up there. Well there was nothing in that bass pro shop in louisiana that was That was good enough for the winter in chicago. Put it that way. So i It was definitely different. But i i was so young i i enjoyed it. I mean i took it all in and it was. It was a great experience. I mean from going from a small town in louisiana to a big city like chicago. I learned a lot. I mean i met a lot of new people. And i really. I think i matured in the time that i was there. I mean what what better time to do it. I mean you young and you're you're kind of just excited to go take on the world. That seems like a good time to to try to move like that. I mean i just from moving around from doing race calling like i love spending time in these different areas because you make friends you make memories you make connections and so anytime you go to that city again like you have. Kind of this built up little network. That's exactly right. I mean. I feel now that like when i 'cause i i had a Where i did a little bit of kentucky circuit as well so between louisiana texas Chicago and a little bit of kentucky. I feel like when i go places. I know people that are there at this point. You know so. That's always nice Knowing people when you when you go to different places. It's it's always nice knowing that you'll have friends there. Someone that that you know from your past. It's been. I guess ten years now since she made the move down to texas and oklahoma which is kind of been your primary circuit ever since what prompted that. Move i my my business in chicago was actually really slow the year two. I think two thousand ten. It wasn't a very good year for me. I had i was just coming back from an injury. And things just didn't take off for me at all and An agent actually. His name is lindy mcdaniel. He was in chicago at that time. He had Eddie roth and he was good friends with the eighth. And i started with in in texas named monty penny and they spoke to one another and windy knew that i was wanting to get out of chicago and you know check out somewhere else. Possibly you know. Get my my career a little bit of a jump start. So he got in touch with mani and and Me and monty spoken. And i just made the made the leap. I said there was a there was a fall meet at hawthorne and then there was a break before the spring. Meet the next Next spring and that was just time When sam houston started. So i said i'm going to go down there and i'm going to try it inform break in chicago. I must see how it goes. I'm not losing anything here. So if i go down there and he goes great. That's great if i go down there and it doesn't go very well. Why won't miss anything in. I can always come back for the spring meet. So i came down here to houston is actually my first First place i came to and it just it went really well We took off immediately. Actually i was riding everything for danny piston and he was running horses and just about every race and they were they were alive. So slow was nice to get off to a good start here. The texas oklahoma circuit. Obviously there's it's all you know in two states right next to each other but the big states and and you know. There's a lot of travel time between houston dallas and o'casey and tulsa d. Do you have a home base that you operate out of or do you just kind of get. Apartments used to have a home in oklahoma city Which was nice. Because i was there Through the big the big holidays between giving christmas and new years you know so that was nice and being home from to december which is which is nice. When you're on the circuit that moves around But i sold that a few years back. It was just too hard to maintain A place in oklahoma city and then paying for an apartment houston dollars. So i sold that a couple of years back so i just kinda at this point. I'm just kind of Just kind of taking it slowly and going track to track and then just trying to figure out my next move as far as Where life's gonna take me you know because with this game has a ride or you could buy a home in dallas and then and then be somewhere else because that's where your business takes you within a year so it's hard it's hard to really to really nail down because i am school i am still Goal oriented as far as my career goes. Yeah i'm going through the kind of the same thing right now we. I'm gone for half the year. And i've been wanting to buy a house. What i don't want to do is buy a house when i'm sixty-five and have a house payment. You know what. I've done working so trying to kind of decide where we're going to be wanted. Ask about one of the horses you wrote for a while. That was a texas bred. The horse named super mason. You want a lot of races with Almost ten thousand miles. Obviously you've written a ton of horses over your career. But i have to think he was a special one for you. Because when you get a top horse like that on any circuit It just seems like it's a lot of fun. It that horses near and dear to my heart. Most definitely I've i've i've told his people to people a lot. I've never felt invincible on another horse beside him in some of the races Just i think his running style and just the way he does it. I felt there was multiple times where in a race. I just felt like there. There was nothing nothing around. That could beat us. So that's pretty cool feeling to get on a horse and just feel like he's unbeatable. I mean especially when you're running fakes against the other top texas bred to think to feel that way and to prove that to win by multiple links and things like that It was it was a pretty neat feeling. So that yeah that horses very near and dear to my heart and that really that formed a strong relationship to for me with The owner mr brad grady And he has horses now with joe sharp and when they come to texas. I've seen end up on all their voices. So that was that was very very important. Horse to ride for me A form that relationship. I'm trying to remember the grady. Had the horse that won the haskell few years ago right what was his main. I know i orange black silks i remember. It was exciting photofinishing. Brian hernandez given. That's that's it. yeah i. It's funny. I i should be better at remembering horse names to my job but you and i last thing i wanted to ask you about it. I think it's kind of funny random fact about you but you wrote a breeder's cup classic winner you road blame in his career debut at turf way which it's funny because it's you know it's just kind of a random debut horse for al stall obviously don't know what he's going to come. Do you have any memories of that race. I actually the whole them. Whole situation was pretty cool. I feel like like. I told you earlier. My mom worked for al. Whenever i was a kid. So he knew who i was. And when i went to when i went to kentucky He was giving me some opportunities at ls at ellison then we went to we went to turf way and i had been working horses at churchill during that time and he was stabled there and he gave me this two year old that he was just just starting out like we were just working quarter mile and i mean so i got the opportunity to get on him from when he was a really young baby when he was just getting started I worked him basically put his foundation into him As as a two year old and al gave me the opportunity to ride him at tearfully. This first starts. I wish you would have went better. I think we. If i remember correctly we ran third but But yeah that was a really cool memory knowing that. I got to get on that horse just as a as a youngster you know and and getting started and give him his foundation so that was really cool and then to see him him mature and go on to be The great than yada. That was that was really neat to witness. I've i've interviewed al before. And i've you know i to me. He's like a top ten trainer in the country. I just don't know that he gets the plaudits that maybe he should. I mean he's put together an incredible resume over the years and he's just he's always good no matter where he goes. I would agree hundred percent I i don't get too many opportunities to ride for him here in texas. I'm but when he shifts over he he calls my name. And i'm always excited about that. Absolutely we'll let you really appreciate taking the time. It's always so fun to get to talk to folks for the first time on the show and you get a great job so thank you so much. Jason thank you so much. Thanks for having me all right. We'll be right back after a short time. Out of jason racing podcasts brought to you by twin spires. This is the jason beam horse racing. Podcast brought to you by twin spires. All right thanks. Lindy wait for joining us. Appreciate his time and love here. Like said i always love hearing from folks. We've never had on the show. I feel like we've done like nine hundred interviews point. I think we're like we're at show like thirteen hundred and twenty or something like that and you know you've got to take off. Thirty percent of them are either. We are forty percent of my gasp. Used to we used to do interviews on fridays as well so But yeah i mean it's there. It's amazing and i got my list of people i want to hear from and i always encourage you guys to send guest suggestions to jason charles. Beam dot com. And like i still got a whole lot of people on their. We've never talked to so. I'm hoping we get some of those looking forward to tomorrow. Show knits hilt is gonna join us and we're gonna talk some oakland park possibly another oakland related guest as well. So we'll stand by. Don't stand by your your radio devices or phones or wherever you listen to us on but we will see guys back tomorrow. Everybody have a wonderful rest of your tuesday. Be safe out there. We'll see or wednesday program.

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Wednesday 4/28/21 - Horse Jockey Part I

Chicago Dog Walk

16:32 min | 3 months ago

Wednesday 4/28/21 - Horse Jockey Part I

"Alright bambang welcome to the dog. Walkers barstool sports special guests today. I'm joined by chris. Amy is chicago land. Area jockey chris. I've been dying to talk to a jockey Thanks for joining the show. How are you doing very good nicer. had any so. Let's let's start off with. How did you get into the jockey game. Where did this again. Oh gee. I grew up in louisiana in a school. Bus driver actually was a horse trainer. So my brother. My twin brother not riding on the school bus and he thought we were both small so we started joining to the farm. And then as i got in the racing horses start galloping and then after i suppose start riding now did he recruit. You was you like. Hey you look like. Because i know that's a thing i had. I had a buddy. He rustled won all three in high school so a little smaller stature and he always used to get people talking on like. Hey you should be a jockey. Should be jockey that's a thing right. People are always recruiting. People like you. Yes when you kind of small built and lights you know. Usually a horse person or trainer seizure. They think maybe hey guess guy cannot get on my horses farming so yeah we were small so we start getting on horses and back then i was trying to do rodeo bull riding and stuff like that but i just wasn't quite big enough and good enough then as you said the bride the ray sources. They bucky off. They'll still pay you so on. Yeah no that's that's that's a good way to look at it. Yeah i enjoy bull riding as well and shame thing like people don't realize the stature on those guys much isn't very big either you know no no not at all and Is there like a a specific measures. Like what's the what's the ideal jockey size. I guess it would be. You're gonna have to weigh between one ten to one you know eighteen at the most okay in now. Is that hard for you guys. Is that a constant thing. We're okay yes well. Some guys is not naturally really small. I mean i do have to watch what i eat. I have to every day. I lose lose. At least you know. Three to eight pounds of max a day during racing three pounds a day or losing. Yes so you a lot of times. We have road dehydrated and you. Your body sometimes doesn't want any just if you had to make way too lightweight that us sometimes it is difficult shows difficult. What's your natural way. Wait i'm rob like one. Nineteen okay. so then you're just so not to go in. And i have to sweat in the hot tub for about a half hour and then you go into the hot fox you know take turns in your steam room sauna and you lose like i said it's anywhere from three to eight pounds max within your pretty dehydrated by then. So is this like a regulator thing though. If you show up in your one eleven they won't let you race or how does that work. No it's It depends on what the horse gets in. You know there's different qualifications on weights. We don't really take that as a younger horse. Might get in lighter than older horse more. You get more weight. So they tell us the weight in So you have to wait one twenty two your saddle and all your clothes is going to be four pounds usually and your tax so then you gotta be eighteen to make twenty two while in. How do they determine that for the horse. How do they determine what a horse should be. What's the they had different conditions. Every race has different conditions that you'd have condition book. And you look at it. Say a three-year-old chas run against a five year old. They'll give the three year old colt Last weight so they have more of an advantage. Say philly runs against a colt for the boys. They get away advantage. So it's just about china handicap. The race of it's for the horses not really. The riders is more for the horses Okay and is this the worst part of the job. Is that what you dislike the most. I guess the only fluctuating here. Yeah that is one of the hardest part. You had to have a lot of discipline. And i mean it's it's hard not to just pick out one day then you're gonna be blown up for the next day you you can eat your way out of a job so yet makes it more difficult and and it's fascinating because you guys you guys are smaller too. You know it's not a lie. That's wow i. That's that's that's very fascinating. I don't think a lot of people even realize that today. Yeah we gotta stay the same size as a sixth grader. More from the seventh graders so it is difficult and guess it is what it is. If you wanna be wanna be jackie. That's what you have to do. So what's the longevity like. How long do you guys usually less. What's the what's the career span for an average jockey. They had you know riders in the fifties and sixties. I've seen it depends on your a lot of your mind because it's very dangerous and you can get hurt very bad. So i've seen a lot of riders and a young. Just because of you know they get a little scared and others because they get too big. They get heavier older. You get you get more weight on you and it's tough when you have a job that they have the scale actor job and yet the way every thirty minutes so i mean that's tough because how many days a week are you racing. Typically well we used to race back day five six days a week now. Two to three days. I think in the middle summer. We're gonna do for days at arms parks. It's a lot less racing right now so to the racing industry is hurting a little bit but We just do the best we can and racist much began rows. You really don't have many days in between the you could take off the diet. You have to always kind of be pretty strict all throughout. Yes because you could get you know big really fast. If you're not careful and then then you have to get really dehydrated so the race. You don't wanna be day of the race. Lose too much weight in your to dehydrated. Because you know your muscles start stop working and you have to struggle a little bit and you gotta performance because if you don't perform you could actually get hurt really bad out there. Does he have a ten thousand pound animals running full speed in. You know you make a mistake. Could be deadly. Hey let's say with break your talk about roman swipes and how you should be jockeying those onto your peanuts about that. I wanna see their jockey on the show. Roman swipe jockey. Whatever you're i'm doing roman swaps. You guys know the drill by now. Stop the old methods. Stop thinking about the time you went to the ob ot and play some bats and did this and that stopped doing it. Because you've got roman swipes here and there clinically proven way to last longer. Embed their effective easy to use and they're fast acting and don't require how they can be shipped you discreet unmarked packaging and each swipe. Pack small enough to hide your wallet for an ever. You need it. 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Because it's you ended up stopping too fast and you know he could get injured bad in if you don't want the horses to hit you. You know if horses coming forty miles an hour gets you. It's like sledgehammers. Swing their legs swinging. So you could have broken a lot of balls. I've seen a lot of riders gets severely injured. It's a of luck a lot of times. It's like having a big car crashed in you. You know when it's over you're like am. I still moving as anything broke. You always gotta go through. Slow lakers adrenalin stops bumping. Then you figure out how bad it is. But i that is one of the dangers. But it doesn't happen all the time so it's When nothing goes wrong. It's the on a great sports in the world. so what would be the ole-ry another danger than Just be you know in the starting gates. You can get injured. Because it's a big metal contraption. I mean really yet animal could smash you main Dangers is clipping hills. If you get too close to the back of another horse the front seat at the back seat in a trips the horse you could bump a horse or a or have a catastrophic injury that happens every once in a while various sad but when you're at high speed sports stuff can happen. Yeah that's pretty interesting. I guess in the gate. 'cause that that camera angle is not always shown too much on tv. You know or when you're watching from the track whereas bull riding when you're watching bull riding they show them in the shoot you know and you see sometimes in the bull is going nuts and they hit their faces off the you know the bars and everything so i guess. I never even realized that. Yeah they smashed your feet ankles lay on. You sometimes a hitch in the face. I mean because there's no room in there and they're already to raise they're all like fall of energy about to explode so you're like everyone trying to get out of the gate you know will and you're just hoping like sometimes please push the but now because it's thought to be a wreck excited and they know what's about to happen they know the gates open and once you get out they know the horses are more happier just getting could find space to make a fair start is There's a lot of energy in their sights explode. I bet and what's what what the common cause the most common cause of a fall like you just hold on tight enough it something. Where a weight shift or what. What's the most common cause of. You guys fallen off or for out of the gates. That would be a stumble coming out of the gate. you wanna. The horse might stumble. Nate jerk is head down at pulls you over the head. I mean that would be the main allegations he tried to you. Basically hold on grab a little bit of the main with each hand. I mean that's the only way to hold on yet to grab the main ammunition. They come out fast. I mean in two two jumps. They're hitting forty miles per hour. So it's like very high acceleration and It takes a lotta practice when you first start doing it. It's a very scary but then once you get used to it it's easy and you do it. All the time is kind of a sport that you have to do all the time to keep in rhythm keep you know. Keep your body in shape and you know stay in. You know the horse. Stay luck stay rhythm. Have you had a scary fall chris. had manny's jerry falls many was is there. One particular that stands out of the worst ones was on the lead. Sorry for home at arlington and the horse bobby was coming by outside my spooked and i went through the interrail. And that's pretty scary. When you see the fence lying everywhere and i ended up i got knocked out. Cut my over. My eyebrow brought by twenty places broke my thumb. I was pretty beat up. So dow's probably one of the scariest but as many many falls is actually better when you get knocked out because this ghana it hurts a lot. It's pretty scary. Yeah wow what happens then you just go on like the jockey disabled list. Or what's the yes. They they pay a few hundred a week. You don't that's why jockeys ride her neighbor day. Don't wanna stop riding because you don't really get paid if you don't ride but It's funny that the worst part about being by was i had a walking cast on cleaning my bushes my yard and i got into wa- snus so i had the worst injury afterwards. I got stung one signs. That's that stock. You know that was so that was after one of my bad spills. I got an insult injury. I got stung to death. It's one of those days where you just think. How can it get any worse right. I thought it was bad. A it could be worse. Exactly man. I don't i mean i i. I knew how rigorous of a job this was. But i don't think i realized how how how bad it wasn't that sense. If you guys get hurt that's you're kind of screwed. Yeah i've had horses flip rami and break my pelvis fall and had surgery on my elbow surgery online shoulder. I mean the impact was very severe. Usually yes injuries broken bones surgeries but Jockeys they fights to paint is you don't get paid unless you perform. I mean you you get paid per race so it's not like some athletes might make the you know the million dollars a year and there is some top jockeys making a million dollars a year. But you only get paid every week for performance so one you know injury and you're out for two months you're losing a lot of money for two months and no one's paying and they forget about you. I mean really you get replaced very fast things thousand jockeys so. Somebody's making a million dollars a year. Oh yeah top jockey in the country are yes. So how's the cut work from from if your horse wins does it. Is it a flat fee. How does how does the payment work. You basically make eighty to one hundred bucks per race but if you win you get ten percents of the purse. So if you're in a hundred thousand dollar raise the the young guitar you get. Ten percent of the horse wins one hundred thousand dollar raise the first play source get sixty percent so you would get ten percent of that so really you're getting six percent of whatever the Says you guys have a lot of skin in the game. Then what's you guys. Have a ton of skin in the game. Like you're 'cause. I know there's always especially i i would go to may park a lot and you know. That's that's harnessing in just a big fan of that track was nearby and there was always rumors about guys pulling back and whatnot. And i don't know how much of that is true. But we do. If you don't we don't win. We're not getting paid so believe me. Everyone gets mad at you. And they're yelling all your second third. You didn't try. We don't make any money because once you have to pay our agents twenty five to thirty percent plus our validates that is five to ten percents. Those guys get the horses. Get our tax ready. Saddle the horses. We have to give them a you know a commission and then if anyone at the barn that we win the barn might like the groom one a little stakes. So if we're not winning you're not making money and blaming everyone wants to win and there's a lot of things you know there's one way to win a million million ways to lose a lotta horses. People don't realize that get sore feed or they up stomach problems or you know they have a fever or late bleed out their nostrils. I mean there's a lot of things that go wrong and then of course the jockey gets blamed for everything that's pretty fascinating man i. It's pretty fast. I didn't a lot of stuff that i learned here. And i like. I said i would go to the track all the time and i enjoy horse racing but i just don't understand like the game from your guys perspective art. Hey stop right there. Split this into two parts will see you tomorrow back again part. Two with krista jackie.

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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 8/18/20--Guest James McIngvale

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

30:02 min | 1 year ago

Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 8/18/20--Guest James McIngvale

"Narrow. Maximum security has been defeated king for a day. This is the Jason Beam racing podcast brought to you by twin spires daily home for Horse Racing News Interviews, wagering discussions, and more. Here's your host Jason Be. A good Tuesday morning y'all welcome in to the Jason Bay horse racing podcast brought to you by twin spires. Hope your Tuesday August the eighteenth off to a good start broadcasting. From the road in. Well. I guess I would say central Eastern. Wyoming. Casper area. I think I'm over halfway home fact I'm almost positive I'm over halfway home and had a real good day of driving on Monday got lot of mileage in went to Fonder Park I'll talk about that in a second. And Yeah just getting. It seems like for me. The. Toughest parts of these drives. The longest parts these drives are the plain states whether it's Kansas Nebraska South Dakota North Dakota don't know if those are even considered the planes anymore up there but. It just seems like those ones always take a long time to get through their their flat. There straight. And they're big and so once I got through I'm like Oh Wyoming Wyoming Wyoming's big too. But it's a little more scenic La. Little. More. My style excited to go through Montana tomorrow and start getting close at home should be home on Wednesday, which is You know the the closer I get to home the more I'm like, okay. This isn't the worst thing you know I was potent about colonial and and everything but. You, closer to home I'm like all right. This is going to be fine I. Get to go home. August is a an early September a great time to be back in the Pacific northwest end grants pass starts on the fourteenth. So I got announcing work coming right around the corner. We run a full two months. He's I think night nine weeks at grants, pass downs for the fall Mondays and Tuesdays at four in the afternoon Pacific so it'll be under the lights. For the last few, which is kind of exciting and I hope you guys will be able to to tune in throw a couple of wages are way should be a fun season. We'll talk about that more as we get closer of course but you know we're we're kind of we've kind of turned that corner. I want to say we've turned the corner into Derby Week but. You know we kinda that's still. Almost three weeks out and so this week I feel like is not so much derby week. I mean we're going to be joined here in a bit by a James Mac unveil mattress mack talk some run happy and talk a little bit how Mac got into racing and his. Love of Houston and business and all that kind of stuff that's coming up here in just a couple of moments but. You know I feel like this week is. This is kind of the week for me to maybe not be too much into Derby which I know. I know who sponsors the show and I know Derby Derby www dot think it's a good week to kind of change. Let everything marinate let the standings be as they are in their final mode. I guess the only piece of Derby News I saw come out since we last talked was that pneumatic is not going to go to the Kentucky Derby and instead possibly point to the preakness I did think it was interesting when Swiss Skydiver Keisha Courtney was interviewing Kenny mcpeek after that win. You know she said, okay Sir Okay Sir Derby and he was like our probably GonNa go the ultimate county and the right she was signing off in the background here Kengo. preakness. Thought that was a great little little bomb. Kenny. Dropped in there and Van. How Fun would that be Tis the law wins the derby goes up for the triple crown. He's got face. You know maybe the oaks winner maybe not but Be Kind of interesting to see how it was so I as I mentioned I left I stayed in Kansas City on Sunday night left really really early Monday morning went through Iowa for like five minutes, and then in Nebraska I'd only been in Nebraska once and that was to Omaha. and. That was kind of just. So I could say I went to Omaha my grandma beam who I talked about on yesterday show who by the way you guys sent a bunch of very nice emails, condolences That was very nice. I haven't got to reply to him yet because I've been very busy with driving and you know getting stuff ready for the show but I will get to you probably. Probably when I get back on Wednesday or Thursday. So don't don't hate me for not getting back to you on emails and even tweets. I've got a lot of tweets than I'm like Oh. Crap. Okay. Respond all these but I I was really touched to see all the nice emails and I and I appreciate you let me. Share about her you know I'm sure some of you out there like I'm but let's get to the horse race and stuff but you know I I have a pretty great family and when I get to talk about him good or bad it's a good thing for me because you know I take a lot of pride in in our in our beam clan and really appreciate you guys indulge me. Let me remember my grandmother who You know I thought about a lot on this trip because going through Nebraska she was born and raised in Nebraska and papillion, which is a suburb of Omaha and I it was about thirty miles to go up to papillion. And I thought about it but I'm like you know I just need to get home. Love your grandma but Yeah. So you know I but I thought about her a lot going through Nebraska never really been Nebraska and so that was nice to see. It was like Kansas. But Better Kansas was more flat and less to see Nebraska had there's little water. There was a little trees I thought Lincoln was a very nice town when I drove through Lincoln. I. Was kind of impressed by Lincoln. just seem like a nice college town ice part of part of the world to to live. and so then I got to Grand Island Nebraska, which is bad. Eighty, five miles I think west of Lincoln, and so probably one, hundred, twenty west of Omaha and. Fodder Park a Chris Ca- to lack who I'm sure. A lot of you remember from his time on TV or as a race caller called Hollywood park. But he called the Nebraska for a lot of years and that's his home state and he's now the he's the head guy there and and I know Chris a little bit. We had interviewed him on the show. Man I think back in twenty sixteen when he was still at Remington. And maybe maybe it's maybe Chris would be a good guy to have on as we get closer to the foreigners season but I sent him a message hair you know I was going to stop by at least check out finer rounded love to say hello and he's like Oh. Yeah. Let me know. So I called him and he met me out front and you know we we did our our Cova handshake, which was just the spock signed from six feet away and and he kind of gave me the tour I was really shocked with how big it was. I think I had you know it's it's a bowl ring. Any five eighths track I. Don't know what actually you know. I don't know what bullying is categorized as four furlongs fives I. I honestly call anything under a mile pouring and maybe that's not correct. But you know it's a smaller five eight track and I wasn't expecting you know the offices to be as big. There were like a kind of a sweep area Chris has got like the best view ever his office looks right out onto the I, turn the clubhouse turn like right on it. It's really cool and so you know he he toured me row we looked at the grandstand and you know it's it's older and it's and he was kind of saying I agreed with him like part of the charm of the grandstand was. You know the the old seventies, eighties, kind of paint jobs and stuff like that, and it reminded me in that sense a lot about port like Portland, meadows and. They run in the winter and into the early spring in fact I think there is like Nebraska springtime tradition. But you know they have you know they'd like little boxes where with couches and a bartenders you can kind of your own little private area to sit and it's inside. Then he said the weather warms up, they can actually roll the windows up but Yeah I. Mean. They had multiple simulcast areas. It seems like so many of these tracks that we're kind of built in yesteryear I remember Hawthorne being this like. There's so many nooks and crannies to Tuam like there's always like six or seven little back room places to sit and little meeting rooms and I I went to the restroom in the near the main offices and it was what I would call eighties. Classy. Like all the decor, the pay the thinks everything were probably really high end in the eighties like from a design standpoint. and. Arlington is a bit like that. Arlington has a lot of class but like you go into the older part, of Arlington, like the staircase in the library and all that stuff and it's what I would call nineties. Classy. Like the the wood and the designs all feels very nineties but nice nineties. and. It's just interesting how Different architecture changes and. Stuff like that but Chris Amy. Really, nice to her the place. It was just really cool to see a new track and you know to be able to walk around it because you know find. I mean, it was kind of the centerpiece of of racing for for a few months there right like you couldn't. As we were all talking about it and I asked Chris I said. Is there a pressure for you to kind of repeat what happened because you? You really can't because you know it's so funny like so many tracks. Because of what fodder did and will rogers did during the the covid period where they were literally only two tracks running like four days a week or three days a week because I think Tampa jumping on on. Wednesday but. Everybody. Saw these you know smaller tracks handling two, three, four million dollars crazy numbers. And it's like every tracks like thought they were going to be honor Park. When they came back, we saw these other tracks which they're dates around both tracks I worked at grants pass and colonial bowls which days around for at least their original. Grants pass was supposed to be. Sunday Monday I think they switch to Monday Tuesday. So it was a switch, but a little switch and the colonial obviously made a big switch and a lot of tracks did right like everybody. I think wanted to be fodder. And and Chris even said like you know we're not going to be running Monday Tuesday Wednesday next year there actually attract that thrives on live racing like he was showing me pictures he said, you know on a Saturday. He goes word jam to the Gills like packed like he's like we're not giving up that because of course, you know if you don't know about the revenue models when you simulcast out your signal, you charge signal in its for small tracks it's. Usually three percent, maybe four percent for the bigger tracks Tyre five, six, seven, eight, and maybe more. You know I mean big special races get command more you know dollars but you know. So if a track does two million dollars, but it's all off track there they're probably making three percent of that and by the way, some of that needs to purses, horsemen, etc. So you know the actual intake on a two million dollar handled day it's like sixty grand. Not that much I. Actually I mean from an outsider feels like the simulcast models need to be changed up a little bit but you know that's that's another debate to have. But You know, and that's like this rainbow six drama Jackpot six drama continues. You were seeing these you know. These big computer groups hit these tickets and take home these jackpots and you know there's all sorts of rumor mill going on and people you know talking about it but I mean, if you're playing those right now you have to just be insane. It. Just I just I never got. You know I mean we've talked about the effective takeout all that stuff it's it's just such a hard bet to be profitable on term and especially when all your combinations are likely covered by somebody else. But like with what we're seeing now like it's just I mean you just gotta be nuts to play him there. So many good pools and places to bet that are not those But you know again I every time I get on the soapbox I think there's somebody out there going to screw you buddy. Oh, like the rainbow six shown up I'm going to go listen to foreign. Who by the way I think he hates it too. So shout for tell but anyways, you know. It's just I just don't get it. I, just don't, but it was. Let's take a short time out. We come back a mattress Mac and join us again tomorrow Turner Brittany. Russell GonNa join us from the mid Atlantic area coming up on Thursday show chantal Sutherland GonNa join a Shantelle actually doing some work with us with the Churchill twin spires. We'll talk a little bit. About that about her writing career about her media career in in the jockeys TV, show all that stuff on a Thursday and we'll be back to normal Friday with the jury and our weekend preview but the mattress, Mac, the mattress Mack joins us after this short time out it is a Tuesday edition of Jason. 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We have offers and promotions for all types of races and all types of tracks visit twin spires dot com slash offers to find out what offers are available to you. All right back here on the Jason Beam horseracing podcast brought to you by twin spires and police to Walkman our next guest. WHO's breeders? Cup. In multiple grade one winning owner whose campaign sources during Wimbledon and of course, run. Happy. Very pleased to welcome in James Mac Unveil to the show Mac Houria. Great Great Show thanks for inviting me I'm happy to speak with you. I'm wearing my run happy t shirt as we talk, and of course, his first runners debut in the spring and summer. How has it been so far watching the baby start to run. It's been good. You know it's been a very strange years A lot of the run happy to your old and the other two year olds little getting going, but it should be exciting. In the summer exciting fall for the run happy Frieden C.. So we're looking forward to big things. I know you had a run happy baby run here at colonial downs I announced the races out here and I saw got claimed I. But I was curious how many his two year olds you actually have that you're going to run We have eight or nine and I. Think we've run three of them one winter in a couple of seconds. So we're excited about the run. Happy. I think they're going to be like their dad a little bit later developing in the fall foucault looking forward to big things in the fall liberty run of course, the the first winner, and then had that terrible injury this past week I mean I can't imagine the gamut of emotions for you guys with that particular horse. Yeah he was great. Horse in. One was doing very well, and we win races ellison fortunately. He broke down. So that's part of horse racing was tragic but the the horse died doing what he loves to do, which is horse racing so bad blessing, and unfortunately that's part of the game. So I want to ask about run happy the racehorse, his his debut of course you know it's kind of a quiet deter Friday evening and he took some money on that day. But where you guys expecting what you saw from him in that debut. I think my vision law WILDA was Houston trainer hearn, our Washington race together and. Of course, he broke dead last and I said, Oh, no here goes another one. And then giving give him time. He's pretty fatness started coming up the. Back stretch like a freight train ended up winning by eight lakes waving all down the stretch so He's been arresting Rice to say the least. Stopped at the. Bar Attorney get some popcorn and coke and brand it was The first time we knew he thought he had he had a lot of talent I. I never forget that because it was one of those races where it Kinda got a little bit of a buzz like everybody was talking about did you see this kind of crazy raise turf way park like it was just a it was something else that Hopefully. We'll have more like that and a lot of the run. Happy's we have. I think talents GAZ, of course that his his incredible run through the Sprint Division obviously culminating with the Breeders Cup win the Malibu. Win. Yeah. It really wasn't all that long from a timeframe standpoint I imagine it was just kind of a crazy like six or seven months for you guys. It was and that that's why I think so many people in the game is. Horse racing brings you hope and My friend Nick Zito always for raising is. Game gotta wear Britches onto so tough, but out of every adversity becomes A. Light at the end of the tunnel. So. Horse racing all about hoping. He brought US incredible hoping we had quite run for six months there. One of the great times of all of our lives he really brought us together as family self will never forget the great six months with one of those six races row the the Breeders Cup. Of course, just an incredible win. Do you have any any real specific memories of that day Keeneland? Yeah you know we were there in what originally ended up. close to the winter circle watching racing I thought to myself is rather audacious to be standing down here he was behind this has happened to stretch around down the stretch I. Think you'd be proud of his own some other horses. So it was quite a day in a lifetime memory that's the horse racing bring it brings. Some sad memories and also some utilize memories and that certainly one of the best A lot of trainers I talked to they'll talk about going to you know races overseas two big races across the country and they they talk about you know we bring our families it becomes vacation it becomes. kind of centerpiece moments of of their lives because of the horses Kinda take him there. Yeah the cohorts does take you there. For the rest of our lives we're searching for another run happy and hopefully, we'll find one two, maybe three more so. As my sister-in-law always says wasn't happy with one of one of the million. Well, we're trying to find the next one million. That's what makes you WANNA get up in the morning. The hope of finding another great horse run happy is in thrilling not only. US But millions of fans across the world you were during his campaign and afterwards, you know you were quite vocal about happy not running on medication. Why was it so important for you as an owner, not only to do that but to be vocal about it As important to the game to Not End up like Bicycle racing some. Sports have been ruined by. Illegal drugs I think it's a pair for everybody to run on no license sales in water. I think a lot of these tracks you coming to the realization that some of these trainings and winning at twenty and thirty percent. There may maybe a fly in the ointment there and I think it horse racing has great opportunity right now, our propel itself more popularity by appealing to a broader spectrum of gamblers. Obviously, Football Baseball basketball is confined now no, no fans at busch racing has a great time to move forward. I think getting rid of illegal. Drugs and calling out cheaters it would be a good way to to attract more fans that left the game to get them back. I agree buddy of mine was telling me like, oh, racing doesn't want to you know get caught in a cheating scandal and I'm like I. Think it's better if we if these guys are publicly outed shamed and and and we get rid of to me, it then shows hey, look we're serious about getting this thing, right? Yeah, exactly when you when somebody is ostracized for. Not Playing the game the right way it makes everybody else conforming and at the same time Hey Yeltsin was spoke to these horses. So let's most make it about the horse. Let's make it about danced. Let's make about the better who were supporting the. It gives them a chance to By on the surface and not say this guy, here's a lot because he's wanting at thirty percent and he took his claim the horses running one hundred thousand dollars, stakes race. Run. Happy goes off to study the last couple years. We've seen kind of at least for in terms of racing and unprecedented marking marketing and advertising blitz with him. You know the advertising ideals were those some of the things you used in your furniture business over the years and you just kind of said. Hey. Look getting the word out there as much as possible is what we need to do. Yeah, I've always been familiar night. One of my philosophies life is winning out, go back to square one and promote. So I, liked to advertise it and make happy household name in the horse racing business where he's top of mind when people think about stallion. So that's why I've spent so much money in sponsoring races spending money on TV narrow and these other channels being sponsored, sending and Dallas Park, Sarah Toga. So I'm big on sponsoring and I think it also helps to put money into the game one hundred percent. Juice, vacaville joining us. So what was your first exposure to horse racing? Where where was your family involved in it at all? My Beloved Aunt Edith. Took Me Kentucky Derby way back in the nineteen seventies. When Kanye the second one Kentucky Derby so that Kinda got me hooked. I've been a fan ever since when did you buy first horse? What was your first ownership experience? About I forces in ninety, four, ninety, five, and Zito was trainer. We Save Save with, make for wild and I went with Bob Baffert we had women with him during they they both. Do extremely well and then. Kind Kinda went out on my own and we've got the horse run. Happy. Of course. several years ago and Had quite a ride in horse racing business lots of downs but lots of incredible. Hi, sue. So the reason I'm in horse racing is is fun. My family enjoys it and It's a it's a tough game but I I like I like puzzle heart salt. You mentioned during an in. Wilton during made over eight hundred thousand Wimbledon graded stakes winner on a couple of occasions. When you get those I kind of big horses I mean especially, you know going over to Santa Anita big races I. Mean. I. May I have to imagine that's an intoxicating feeling as an owner. Is especially places beautiful and Amita and. You can on. Day was running happy. Then Anita the Malibu, was running happy Malibu stakes with when one that they were very seniors board. So you know the the highs in horse racing terribly high laws are terribly well, but you gotTa love the game and. Do it for the right reasons the voices about the fans about. Making this better in going into the future? What was kind of as you as you've owned horse of the year, if you kind of always kept the stable size around the same, if you generally had the same amount of horses or does it kind of ebb and flow? Yeah, you know we have anywhere from twenty to forty horses all the time. And my sister in law ruler and Kelly her husband. The. Last senators while they do a great job, I'm pretty pretty much hands off my daughter-in-law is involved when we've had a lot of horses we're bringing in the yearlings right now lots of I think eight or nine and a half yearly hitting the bar and right now start prepping for next year. So as you know, it's a twenty, four, seven game. I'm curious about Your Your Business Gallery Furniture Ho-, how did you first get into that? Was that a family business was something you started on your own? I need Jabs. I started selling furniture and I was good at it in a certain amount story down here Houston's nineteen, eighty, one and Still at it back since March fifteenth I was thinking about this the other day I, put in more hours since March fifteenth when the pandemic kids and I have my life trying to keep the business blow but knock on wood we're doing very well and strange things happen horse racing strange that's happening business pan-demic is terrible for the country. But in in a weird ways to get the turns visit because bigalow spend more time at home more concerned about having comfortable. Furniture at home. You a you wear your pride for Houston on your sleeve, often literally with the jerseys of the various teams and stuff. What is it about that community that's just been so special for you. Eight Houston support any of the past thirty, eight years at through absolute down and this is all you've been very good to me I I think it's very important that we have responsibility wellbeing I need these. We're starting school galley pungent, but you gotta be free these people. Electrical work welding, funding construction skills, auto mechanics cat in the tree. Costumer that three people that are just starting high school for people, Aged Sixteen to twenty. School so we're doing all sorts of things to get back to the community help people turned from tax taxes and tax payers. James, mcphail, joining us here match Mac really appreciate your time. Wish you guys the best of course going forward, run happy and all your racing endeavors as well as business in your community. Thank you so much. More around happy he's coming up beyond the guy and thanks very much. That's great. Show enjoy listening. Are, we'll be right back after this short time out. The Jason Beam worst bracing podcast brought to you by twin spires is your home for daily thoroughbred horse racing conversation join host Jason Bean has he discusses racing from around the country interviews, jockeys, trainers, media personality, and players every Monday through Friday. The show can be found at twin spires, dot com or on I tunes spreaker Stitcher or wherever you get your guests from the Jason. Beam. Horse podcast brought to you by twin spires. This is the Jason Beam. horseracing podcast brought to you by twin spires. Mattress Mack James mackin bail for joining a shout to his daughter Laura for helping to organize that interview Laura was who approached me about sponsoring the beam awards. Last year, we did the the commercial with mattress Mac if you haven't seen that, you might get a kick out of it. You can. It's on my twitter still if you just I think if you just search my name with like beamy awards, sponsor something, you'll probably find it but show mattress MAC is a complete. Racing character right and obviously, very excited about his horse and you know I I, love the the part about you know when I started business. Promoting et pronin and run happy as a business for certain and. You know a Lotta people. I think there there's definitely a point for some folks where they're like, okay. Enough is enough with this particular marketing or what have you but. Like. You know he said you know I'm spending money putting money into the pockets of people in racing like that part I can't disagree with. That including mine by the way you know with the with sponsor and the beamy. Thanks so I mean. There's GonNa be no negative mattress smacktalk are unhappy talk on this show I'll tell you that much. So I really appreciate Mac joining us in to Britain Russell GonNA. Join US tomorrow. We'll talk some mid Atlantic, racing her career and more chantelle sutherland coming up on Thursday and the jury boys back on Friday I'm excited for my Montana Dry. I gotta say I I've said this before but like if if racing has enough of me and I get the boot and I can't find a job in racing or racing. If there are no racing jobs. That's another little worry I. Really think like a a long haul trucker or a train engineer or something like that would be up my alley. I really dig like just see in the the country. I mean, you know. I'm in Douglas Wyoming right now. And it's like it's just a whole nother world, but it's an. Part that's Kinda why like stop and buy at the tracks to right like you just. Getting, the experience of seeing the places, they always look a little bit different in person you know your mind's eye has one impression and It's just such a wonderful part of of traveling seeing all the stuff even though you know, I mean a lot of America you know I mean there's Pizza Hut's and their subways and whatever. But each state you know kind of has just its own little feel and and I like that about our our country I'm a proud American. I have some surprised and patriotism. I know. I know we struggle on stuff, but you know you try to improve that what you love and so we're we're trying to do that every day here is a private citizen and hopefully as a podcast. But anyways, we're going to wrap up this edition of the program. Big. Thanks to mattress Mac. Again, appreciate you guys emailing you can always send those Jason Charles. Bima gmail.com I'm GONNA work on. Getting. Back to those more so in the coming days said I'm traveling so I appreciate you bearing with me as we we get back home country but yeah, we will see you guys back tomorrow everybody have a great rest of your Tuesday.

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Becoming Debt-Free Gives You Hope for the Future (Hour 2)

The Dave Ramsey Show

40:45 min | 1 year ago

Becoming Debt-Free Gives You Hope for the Future (Hour 2)

"Yeah I'm Dave Ramsey your host thank you for joining us open phones at triple eight eight two five five two two five that's triple eight eight to five five good morning million did you inherit zero well she did it all by sixty three that's correct it did well I've been told Able I don't think I am you didn't say you don't even have a good evil laugh so steal any of it No okay well I just heard the news that all the rich people were evil hadn't you heard the news I have two to five Mike starts us off this hour in Washington Hi Mike how are you I'm good thanks for taking my call sure what's up net worth at baby steps seven and living living comfortably my question has to do with the Emergency Fund I do maintain pursued Things that come up could you address it no it's not necessarily I mean you've got a you've got a couple hundred thousand dollars flying Dave I'm sixty three years old retired and for about a year and a half having trouble hearing you speak directly into your phone please Gina six months the thirty K. Emergency Fund but I'm wondering if that's you don't necessarily have disposable income to cover any kind of I'm proud of you man how'd you do this tell people how to become a millionaire when they're sixty three what are they need to do disciplined savings redneck a redneck emergency fund which is a hundred dollar bill folded over tucked in the back of your wallet and that that's what we called it and so it's redneck emergency fund it's not a good in your pocket it might have all kinds of stuff on that hundred dollar bill but it's back there and that's all this is just liquidity to get your hands on in ratio to your two point eight million so how much you might WanNa leave a hundred thousand dollars laying around because you wanna go Bassem and I do have that also project fund yeah there you go liquidity anyway just 'cause you might want to do something I mean you worked your whole life to get here why go that's right thank you for about shake that yeah you major Dan you gotTa know expenses and you got two point eight million if you needed some money and just reach and get it out of something right that's exactly right and they have my thoughts also I do that I've got I just keep some liquid cash just because just because because I don't ever be without one I don't ever want to be with cash again you know I grew up doing the principles and it's nice to have that cash by now I having said that I don't think an emergency fund is necessary but truthfully somebody with three million dollar net worth you need to keep yes I'm I'm sixty years old been retired for about an hour about a year and a half have about a two point eight my job he fits the exact case study of Chris Hogan's book Everyday Millionaires Number One bestseller we studied ten thousand millionaires America and the typical millionaire in the study that guy lined up exactly exactly and if you've got a net worth of under five million dollars so over half of it okay yes the rest of the rest is real estate and and just just out of retirement investments and network in your 401k or in retirement retirement plans retirement plans I got about one point seven or so living below your means you know just a a good long-term plan and sticking with it there's really nothing nothing more than that you said earlier your baby step seven so you're one hundred percent debt free that's correct well done sir very well done hey guys you want the formula he just gave it to you same Fast Company magazine it's on the cover slow company magazine but that's okay we wanna be on the cover of tortoise hair this is how it works well done sir very proud of you one million dollars the case study fits that just exactly now people have two hundred million dollars to different thing usually going on but the one five million dollars now that is dumb cash is king and the paid off home mortgage has taken the place of the BMW as the status symbol of choice sounds exactly like that and then some of them parley at two hundred million from there but you can do just fine him five me you'll be all right you can pay you bill colors we wanna talk to you if you inherited all you won the lottery I don't care how you got it we weren't real millionaires not people with political agendas or theories. I don't WanNa talk to your broke brother-in-law who has an opinion because he feels stuck and he's victim I don't need to talk to him I know he Malabo giving you turn on the microphone for thirty years this is what a millionaire sounds like not real flashy you don't get your face on the cover Dave own air at Daveramsey dot com Dave on air at Daveramsey Dot com no space Liam our man. This is so doable all right Joanna's weather in Virginia Hi Joanna how are you dave thanks for taking my also put some beans on the table on and and some rice and you'll be all right you'll be okay if you are an everyday millionaire we're going to do an everyday millionaire theme our again and I are taking calls from guys and Gals just like that you're an everyday millionaire you don't have to have started with nothing if you have a net worth of a million millionaire theme our that's coming up with Hogan we'll put you on the air and we want you to tell your story will interview you like we always do those millionaire theme hours and just email me at he is already know I wanNa talk to a millionaire who has a million dollars I wonder how you did it email us and Madison or Kelly will get back to you for this at one but it's got a little bear for a rainy day if something bad happens right and you got a fish that thing out of the back there and it might have been wet we're dove in the pool or it might have been sweat where he mowed the yard with forgiven into that program thus far all of them were denied but ninety three so it's probably better you the snowball we should have that paid off within the next four years is it better to pay that off within the four year period or no spaces no dashes just do a millionaire on the theme our in the subject line just a little bit about your store your net worth and we'll get back to you and set you up for the millionaires I know you pay it off your government has screwed you America it's called student loans the only the pay that off with our snowball and just not have the that hanging over our heads statistically you stand a better chance standing on the ninth green with a golf club up in your during a thunderstorm being struck by lightning than you do this student loan being forgiven that's what that's says ninety three to twenty four thousand chance these are not odd exclude that and include it with you know wait for ten years out twenty four thousand people have made application for their student loans to be given paid off that's the only way to get out there is no program and socialism is not gonna work this is the Dave Ramsey show. 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N. dot com that's T- in Dot Com radio show taking advantage of 401k's matching you know staying out of debt how much are your net worth four foreclosure because they've been carrying two mortgages and and a 401k loan no okay several things wrong here now you need to sell your house else in the need to go buy a house oh by the way the home you're looking at not accept contingency offers you miss measure you picked the wrong color they will give you new blinds replace the screwed up ones that you screwed up for free who does stat call so I have a question why has been and I are in baby step two and he has a student loan about seventy no now it's just a stupid house man it's just a stupid house there's a house on every corner in Colorado and you can get your another you know one of the absolute best investments you can make in yourself if you're waking up in the morning dragging that might be God saying you don't need this house by the way there's more than one house that you could live in or move into when you narrow everything down to one house todd's in Colorado my plan is to buy a new home with a 401k loan to cover the down payment and so my existing home payback 401k loan and recast the new home mortgage both homes AH translation they don't want you to refinance either that's what they're trying to say so what's your interest rate it's five point eight so you're getting out is you're gonNA pay them and quit taking them out Anthony's book debt free degree will show you how to not take them out anymore and all of us Ramsey will show you how to I do not refinance it okay five thousand dollars refinance caused on seventy seven thousand asinine that's ridiculous okay else so you don't put up for sale and it sells then you can buy the other one before it gets away and that works out then maybe that was you better than I deserve what's up in your world well I am three fourths of the way through baby step two so we're going to be finished in June break your face in this do not do that hope I wasn't unclear molly is with us in Kentucky Molly how are Ya and question today comes from blinds dot com they have a one hundred percent satisfaction guarantee means even any and talked about a fifteen year mortgage at a three percent interest rate it's five thousand enclosing cost we have nineteen worth four hundred k the home I'm looking at rejects offers with a contingency sought have to carry both for at least a few months until my current home sold I do not have any other debts my incomes one hundred twenty uh of twenty twenty good for you and thank you it's changed my life I am wondering though I contacted my mortgage but I can tell you what you got about four stupid things piled on top of each other in this little crazy plan you put together and you got a whole bunch of ways to trip and fall in so you need full coverage I mean if you got two million dollars in the bank and you can write a check to replace your car that's cool but you don't yet you will have no because you're doing smart stuff but we think five point eight high now you pay it off in three years you will not have gotten the money back in interest saved that's what happens twelve months from now and you sold your house our markets hot says everybody right until they call me up with well I thought maybe after I paid off it's I don't need it anymore worldview total the car you don't have the money to replace it no that's true insurance for so good question that's a good clarity I like that very good open phones at triple eight eight two five five two two five you jump in for the closing costs what's your homework probably about ninety eight also and you owe seventy seven yeah years left on our current mortgage with seventy seven thousand dollars remaining and I think I can pay that off if I've done my math right I can get that paid off and three years questions just don't tell me you've been doing some for listening to everything you save for fourteen years and then try to do something different but anyway you're not so jazzed want things for food and you pretty well consume the food every month if you had a restaurant enveloping yet money leftover every month then you're not spending as much on restaurants as you thought you would our savings account and so it would build up month to month to month to month to month now if you look up after a year you got three thousand dollars in your car repair envelope you for taking my call sure what's up I'm calling you because I just paid off my car last week but should I call you can you believe that we live in a world where we think five point eight interest on mortgages I when I got out of college shown houses and fixed rates for fifteen point two the right way good when I have money left over in my envelopes every month what do I do with them do I budget less than a month or put it on my debt while there's two kinds of envelopes that now you might not have car repairs every month hopefully you don't have car repairs every month and so the car repair the love starts to be kind of a little miniature car right my car insurance company and has lower my policy rate because I have full coverage I've always had a full coverage not so let's just do your plan you are far Kitto keep it up rocket rocket rocket Alex from Florida. Hi Alex how are you hi Dave I would just get about the business of painted often your baby steps six and I wouldn't worry about your interest rate is not ridiculous if you're gonNA keep it a long time and it was a lot of money and refunded or underfunded in that case so that type of an account would go over month month to month other types of accounts that you're actually burning through in a given month I do that so another example might be kids close some people spend all of their kids clothes money every month but a lot right that we might address this issue if it's your food envelope and your money leftover in your food envelope every single month then you would budget less because you're overbudgeting would justify it say go ahead and refinance it but you're gonNA pay it off so fast that it's going to negate any advantages of the refinance does that make sense you have a four hundred dollar repair see that's that's what you'd want you'd want that in there becomes a little miniature car repair savings account you just wouldn't WanNa over car you'll have an extra ten grand laying around right now share don't you so if you if you hit a rainstorm and spin out and total your car you'd be walking with we quit noticing how much it was a gallon we used to know every time it went up a quarter gallon we'd have a little bit right there dancer out there and you know recovery so let's keep the coverage right now you need it's it's ensuring something you're not ready to self insure through and so you transfer the risk and that's what we do and when you are away from home entertainment used to use car gas envelope I honestly don't now because I'm too lazy to walk in that's not going to be smart so we gotta go that way and so good question now we don't use the envelopes for everything folks envelope just things and say the Keyword Dave Ramsey talk about your life and your money savannah is on instagram Dave I just started the baby steps so forgive me if this is a dumb question if you're just starting there are no dummy USA has the same great coverage for less and no contracts try it risk-free today call pound two fifty yeah well yeah and I started baby step three from excited about that too expensive grow okay I'll keep it because you you know if you need about ten thousand hit a little harder there and so you'd kind of let that one build up build up build up but again you don't want to look up and see three thousand dollars and the kids clothes envelope that would the people buy clothing you know about once a quarter once every six months and the big kids clothing is back to school right and so you get that one down if you had an entertainment envelope and you had money left over you would bring that one down a different kind of envelope is if you had a car repair envelope so we used to walk in and pay with the car I'll tell you an interesting thing about that when I quit paying you quit paying with cash for gas and peer talk. USA saves you money down from Minnesota said we switched from verizon appear talk thanks to Dave Ramsey welcome welcome where are you guys live Burlington Kentucky cool welcome to Nashville and how much have you paid off forty four thousand one hundred twenty five dollars ninety three Live from the headquarters of Ramsey solutions broadcasting from the car rental studios it's the Dave Ramsey show in the lobby of Ramsey solutions on the debt free stage Chris and amy or with us hey guys how are you dave hi cash I just hit the debit card into the into the thing but when I started this you didn't have debit cards and when I started this you didn't have the ability to pay at the pump been doing this a long time when you're driving a two thousand dollar car that's probably overfunded it right but if you put you know if you're putting two hundred bucks a month in your car repair envelope and you go along three months with no car repairs and I was skeptical but after leaving the big city and traveling to a rural area service coverage never lapses were also saving forty dollars a month guys pure and when I came up here still hanging right after you so I mean we don't we it's become yeah it's become very very less price city because we're not using cash to buy yeah I'll give you a clue about some of those stuff you spend money on this is that Ramsey show meaning little hissy fit right now we don't even notice you can't tell me what you paid last gallon of gas you don't even know you don't even know what whole tank costs because you didn't keep the receipt I saw you left hanging sense awesomeness how long did this take eight and a half months good for you and your range of income during that time just under one hundred thousand during that eight and a half months what do you guys do for a living well assembled engines aircraft engines and amy as a stay home mom chartering idea with our seven kids note is over but check the episode notes for links to products and services you've heard about during this episode thanks for listening we also had a debt free chain that hung in our living room and each chain was each link was a thousand dollars of our debt and whenever we would pay off one of the ooh yeah there was a twenty one day period where he worked twenty one days straight for thirteen fifteen sixteen hour days new right yeah I've been patiently waiting okay and so from then on I went to work and it felt like I worked for She said Yeah and I said okay I I WANNA do the Dave Ramsey plan she said well it's about time Oscar I said if we were debt free could we make ends meet with my prior prior income could we make ends meet if we were debt free and so I pretty much discounted there's no way you can pay cash for a car I mean as everybody knows that a- and so fast forward about nine years and I was threatened what felt like another job loss and we were with our seventh baby and so I came home one day just feeling the weight of the stress of now of what felt to me like job loss and being the income with outrageous amounts of work what are the secrets to getting out of that for me it was the budget answer but hearts all right how long you've been married sixteen Caesar's okay so what happened eight months ago well actually starts earlier than that amy not his paycheck a few days before it was going to be directed directly into the account and so I would get on their take tie out take our budget money out and then every penny homework and told me she was reading it and started talking to me about it and tell me about it and I was intrigued so I ask questions and she answered him as best she could and get their oh my goodness wow way to go man you got after it so once you put your mind to something there's no stopping you yeah so other than increased after I would automatically have it set to on payday pay the next debt that we're at so it was never even in our hands in our hands than it would be tempting one thing is kick the income a great place to go when you're broke toe work act the truth he actually had a record week of ninety six hours in one week you know how to use it but based on the plan and he was a beast on the making the Ymca us good tag team good very eight and a half months straight stayed at work yeah took all the ot you could get yes okay kick the income way up all right so when I ask what the key to getting out of debt across the line up okay I got you all right cool well welcome you guys congratulations so what kind of debt was the forty four thousand and is a car and some credit answer and so you know with him working so much overtime we never could tell exactly what each paycheck was going to be so I can visual guide for us every day to see you know how far it was hanging between two winters how far it was going up the window and then eventually it didn't reach and we had to let it hang and so it was just going to be more important than what you say so good job y'all who were your biggest cheerleaders while you're doing this my co workers were big part of who really okay and The only the only reason why stopped was because I called and said we were having the baby needed to get the hospital right he was born five weeks early so kids got to take the link off okay the kids were all into this get all seven of them were so seven and a half of the moment on the on the plan yes you know we've never been through Fpu we read the total money makeover we listen to podcasts like it was our job and You know Chris after we got I actually wanted to say one more thing I wanted to personally thank you for everything that you do and the the guidance that you give people with nothing you know not expecting anything in return the individual the kids were involved crispy you know is really good for us so do you think obviously your world-class mom you gotta hold tribe there the rest of their lives just the way we live from here on out hoping that you know debts not even going to be an option oil Rachel cruze always says Moore's caught than taught so them watch bring it up bring up the back of the train like it good job well done you guys are right forty four thousand dollars well because I was pretty much around them around at home but living there yeah yeah yeah yeah that we just had our three months saved up Chris actually had to have an emergency appendectomy who and so he had to be off work for a month at only sixty percent counted down let's hear a debt free screen name three to one for the future to know we're not going to be broke for the rest of our lives it felt like I was running a marathon with a with a weighted vest gas mask on where I couldn't that's good for you though rather than giving you a hard time look what you working toward a little bit of that a little bit yeah especially knowing he had as many kids these guys are heroes look at them look at what they did absolutely amazing very very very well done love it love and well done you guys that's fabulous good for you I always love having folks on with big family like that because occasionally I get some idiot on twitter that goes rams this is thirteen Ethan's twelve harrison as ten ally is eight Brooklyn is three and emily as ten months ago emily we're just so thankful for you thank you well we're proud of you you guys are heroes look at you well done well done all right quickly what are their names and ages Lydia's fourteen without a doubt one hundred you don't have payments House feel rating literally felt like an actual burden being lifted off of our shoulders and just a new hope don't just show up down here but we'd love to have you be part of the show this is the Dave Ramsey shaft it will actually remember this well we're hoping at least the four oldest yeah but we're hoping that in the others will hear the story yes plan doesn't work for large families will what the flip does if our planned on worked for Large Families What does you idiots I mean really they just did it they just dead aw Gotcha so every little detail your checking account has both names on it even though there's not a huge pile of money or a bunch of d of His pay and you know before this that would have been like a tragedy for our family to try and figure out how we were going to make ends meet and it actually turned out to be like uh-huh Kalimanis looking around like what does it happen Oh that's great you guys and that is a family with a couple of branches and it's completely changed and thank you for being with US America Kelly is in Virginia Kelley welcome to the Dave Ramsey show is paid off in eight and a half months Chris Amy and the tribe they did it make one hundred grand and working their tails off and tight budgeting well done tailed assets like some kind of a movie or something it's still very difficult just to transact day-to-day business if one of you dies and you haven't left a will if we need to have a will everyone needs a will to what would happen your car yes for this paid for I don't care he's going to have trouble selling that car if you die without going and getting the court's permission because you don't have a will they love it open phones this hour triple eight eight two five five two two five when are you gonNa do you're debt free scream we're here we're waiting on you I I can do it works for large families the only thing that works for large families is getting your finances in could draw what are you going to be a perpetual victim because you've got a couple of kids come on people during which will cost sixty thousand dollars and total to complete over two three or four years depending on my employer will subsidize fifty to fifty annually but the causes eight any vacation I mean we couldn't go anywhere because you just had surgery but he's been working his tail off instead of cricket to have him home for a month and so it's just You know yeah jump on Dave Ramsey Dot com if you've done the journey and schedule yours you need to schedule in advance their scheduled several weeks out make sure you do the application ahead of time giving the provision to hand everything over to the other one on the good news is they're not very expensive you just go to you just go to Mama not caper semester is it worth putting diversity up to you how much will the degree increase your income uh estate law is State Law the law concerning probate concerning when you die is not federal law it's individual to your state and some states have very very different laws regarding estates so I need you need a will that is specific to your state and whether you know I have a will question my husband and I do not have any kids baby step number two and I'm wondering read I got I got to run this marathon but now just feels so much free Caesar Philo take the take the ankle weights off she brought the Kiddos to do the debt free scream with you her legal forms Dot Com and you can get a will there for like less than a hundred bucks and in their state specific you always WanNa do a state specific will being the state you are living in when you die is where the will needs to be drawn for because state Lee estate has be notarized how many signatures witnesses all that kind of stuff is is unique to each state luke is with us Luke is in bunnies this eight thousand employees okay I would ask him since he's pushing you do it if there's anything more they can do to help you because you know and it sounds like it's a I'm the type of master's degree in a field that will actually Roi for you actually give you a return on the money so my boss said he's really been pushing me towards it I said it's anywhere from eight to fifteen kids instead increase not including the normal whatever in order to get some education out of the way The one thing I would do is how long have you been working this guy just a few months and how big Komo twenty two right now so figuring out the best time yeah I mean I I just I don't want you to go thirty years without buying a house but if you go a few extra years and but yeah I saw the bottom line is you've done all the work you're debt free you've got your emergency fund and the only thing is do we do this masters and delay saving for how we try to stick it out and try something else I hate Hoa's phony five is always in charge chop we've got a copy of Chris Hogan's book for You every day millionaires that is the next chapter in your story that's what you're going to be and you're on your way spend the time you spent to get the degree so it's it's probably worth doing a good question Jeff is whether it's in Florida I jeff how are you the at home yeah we're willing to make the sacrifice you work like no one else later you can work like no one else in Put you in a position to do that so very very very well done we are in I guess Babysit step six we paid off our house but before learning about your steps we had bought a condo and we got a mortgage on it smart enough at least hey dave greed thanks for taking my call and congratulations on your new building thank you sir how can I help I just had a quick question my wife and I is there not covering even have this okay yeah I'll talk to him and that was another thing to seeing if I couldn't ask for that too yeah yeah I think I would do this I really do and I'm just GonNa try to figure out where to get them to pay for a little more of it and cannot do it a little faster but but there's nothing on fire here nothing passes for our church stay there and mission families and H as been giving us a hard time about parking passes restricting the amount of parking passes we can -fornia I- Luke how are you Dave I'm doing well these threats or taking my question my honor Sir how can I help so my wife and I both completed assist and of course they don't allow rental I'm restricted to three times a month and one property Then you probably going solid now okay great and I think it answered my question yeah that's just that's just so petty and and then be able to to buy a house in and be able to do that yeah I'm probably I mean it's how fast you WanNa do it do it if you keep this as Lee unbelievable wow open phones as an investment it delays the other thing if that's okay with you then it's okay but if you wanna put that the this ministry in front of owning other Reynolds and then another three years to save up to buy something right correct yes no more day as opposed to the as opposed to if we sold it now maybe we could save up in two or less fifteen year or we're paying aggressive on it we have about three years left but when I able to use it as we anticipate we bought it kind of as a ministry tool we wanted to have his every single one of our

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Amy Fisher and Joey Buttafuoco Pt. 1

Crimes of Passion

44:39 min | 1 year ago

Amy Fisher and Joey Buttafuoco Pt. 1

"Due to the graphic nature of these crimes listener discretion is advised this episode includes discussions violence and sexual assault that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen as eighteen year. Old Chris Trillo's pulled into the garage of the auto body shop. He turned to look at sixteen year. Old Amy Fisher sitting in the passenger seat beside him but before he could say anything anything tour she was already sliding out the door to greet the mechanic for some reason. She seemed to be in a hurry. Chris followed her out and explain to the mechanic the work he wanted done on his car. He expected amy to stick around while they're repairman got started but but instead she disappeared into a back office. Chris watched as she followed an older man. Upstairs Crispin the next forty five have minutes pacing around the garage waiting for amy to return. He wasn't exactly jealous. He liked having fun with amy. She was the the only girl he knew willing to have. No strings attached sex without expecting to turn into a serious relationship. He didn't mind if she spent time with other guys. Still the whole situation struck him as odd. This guy had to be twenty years older than amy. At least that was his competition when amy finally came back downstairs. Chris asked her what she had been doing. She said coyly she was doing her boyfriend. Joey but a few go incredulous. Chris pointed out the pictures of the man's wife and family that covered the walls of the garage. Didn't it bother me to sleep with a married man in his thirties. But that's that's not. What bothered Amy Fisher at? All to Chris's shock her expression darkened at the mention of Joey's wife she she only replied. He's madly in love with me Hi I'm Lena. Hobbs and this is crimes of passion a podcast. Original the legal definition of a crime of passion is a violent violent crime that occurs in the throes of extreme emotion leaving no time to reflect on the consequences but in this show we explore. How passionate relationships ABS- sometimes lead us to criminal activity? How does a husband and wife become killer and victim or killer and co-conspirator if there's a thin line between love and hate what manipulates our relationships and a deadly results? You can find episodes of crimes crimes of passion and all other park originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts stream crimes of passion for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type crimes of passion in the search bar at podcast. We are grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. And if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star review. Wherever you're listening? It really does help. This is our first of three episodes on Joey. BUTTAFUOCO and Amy Fisher this week. We'll meet Joey how he married his high school sweetheart. Mary Jo Connery and how their marriage got off to a rocky start. However Joey Joey seen to clean up his act and become the ideal husband until he had an affair with a sixteen year? Old Girl named Amy Fisher issuer in our next two episodes will explore how the love triangle exploded into violence and how tabloids latched onto the story story until it became Atari national scandal growing up in the long island community of Massapequa. Joey BUTTAFUOCO had a reputation for being the fun guy friendly outgoing and always armed with a joke in nineteen seventy-one fifteen year old. Joey sent next to sixteen year old. Mary Jo Connery Connery and their sophomore year. Summer School Class Mary. Joe Didn't take much notice of Joey. At first they were classmates friendly enough to exchange pillows and the hall. Nothing more but the more. Mary Jo interacted with Joey the more she started to like him she later said. He was rascal but lovable. Even the teacher couldn't stay mad at him for long. Her interest continued thanks to her. Physical attraction. Joy was tall and and broad shouldered. Maryja thought he was handsome by junior year. They were going out Mary. Rachel enjoyed dating the fun guy and as I got to know each other she found she also liked seeing another side of him to everyone else he was the class clown down but with her. He was sensitive after a few months together. Joey told her about how his mother Louise had died of cancer when when he was younger he was in tears as he described how difficult the loss had been for him. This early loss may have shaped Joey's emotional outlook for for the rest of his life. Before we continue with Joey Psychology. Please note. I am not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but I have done a lot of research for the show clinical psychologist. Linda Dabney found that one in five children who lose a parent at a young age age will go on to develop a psychiatric disorder with the highest rates of difficulties reported in young boys. Research suggests that without without intervention such as counseling and extra support. A child who loses a parent often faces long-term consequences a study led by Beverly Lim who of the Danish Cancer Society Research Center found that individuals who lost a parent before the age of eighteen have a higher risk of marital separation variation later in life but naturally sixteen year old. Mary Jo wasn't thinking about the long term effects of Jewish trauma on their relationship. Chep she was touched by his `vulnerability as she listened to his heartfelt account of his pain she fell deeply in love with Joey them for their first few years together. Mary Joe and Joey were happy. Their relationship seemed almost staffer tlass. They loved each other. They adored each other's families. They both came from stable. Middle Class Catholic upbringings. They both seem to want the same future on September Fourth Nineteen seventy seven twenty two year. Old Mary Jo and twenty one year old Joey got married. Mary Jo later recalled. There were no qualms or second thoughts. I had the COM happy sense of beginning my adult life life and doing the right thing and it seemed like Joey and Mary. Joe Didn't have any trouble adjusting to married life either. Joey worked at his father's this car shop complete auto body while Mary Jo worked in the Credit Department of a local bank. The meat enough money to afford a small home of their own in the nearby by hamlet of Baldwin New York close to both of their jobs and families. Joey still had the fun loving personality that has endeared him to marry Joe in their teenage years he enjoyed an active nightlife of parties clubs and music. Mary Jo like these things too but joey he took it a little further than she did. In the late nineteen seventies cocaine became the drug of choice in discos across the United States. Joey was was quick to partake Mary. Jo was willing to experiment with him at first but in nineteen seventy nine. Two years into their marriage she became pregnant. They're partying. Lifestyles suddenly became a lot less appealing in certain aspects of personality which had once excited her now knell seemed like red flags. The warnings grew more severe on Christmas Eve of Nineteen seventy-nine just a few weeks before Mary Jo's due date eight that night. The couple spent the evening having dinner with Joey's parents as they were driving home. A Long Island railroad security car attempted the pull them over instead of stopping. Joey fled the scene speeding back home at eighty miles per hour leading to a police chase. The police pursued joey all the way back to his house to avoid trouble. He lied and told them that they were rushing to get home because Mary Joe was having contractions. Joey didn't get a ticket but the nine months pregnant. Mary Jo was furious that Joey had behaved so recklessly with her and their unborn child in the car a few weeks later in January of nineteen eighty twenty four year old Mary. Joe Gave Birth to a son Paul and left her job at the bank to become a stay at home mom. She felt secure about the family finances that same month. Joey and his brother Bobby bought into their father's successful successful auto body shop. It should have been a happy time but Mary Jo couldn't enjoy it. She was worried about. Joey's more and more frequent cocaine use. She didn't like that. He continued to stay out late partying and socializing while she was at home taking care of their new baby when he returned after long hours or even days away from home she often suspected he was lying to her about where he had been sometimes when she was fed up with his behavior. Mary Jo threatened to leave Joey but each time she brought up divorce. He immediately became mm contrite. He wrote her love Notes Center. Flowers bought her jewelry eventually. She always forgave him. In March of nineteen eighty three their family grew again Mary. Joe Gave Birth to a girl named Jessica but Mary Jo felt strained by by the pressures of raising two young children with an addict for partner and it affected her mental health. Soon after Jessica was born Mary Jo began Jan to suffer from anxiety and debilitating panic attacks. She saw a doctor who prescribed medication and behavioral therapy to alleviate her symptoms But this treatment did nothing to address the true problems in her marriage. My nineteen eighty-six thirty one year old. Mary Very Joe needed a change. She hoped to move to a new larger house. In massapequa on Long Island the move would give them more space and they would also take Joey. We away from the bad influences in Baldwin plus. They would be closer to Joey and Mary Jo's parents. Mary Jo hoped they would provide the young family with a stronger support network. She found a house by the beach on the edge of South Bay and made an offer when she began taking steps to move the family Massapequa. Joey told Mary Jo he could take care of selling their house in Baldwin in fact he had already found the buyer. Mary Joe didn't question him. Joey was a charismatic. Well liked guy who was always out meeting New People. It wasn't an outlandish idea that he'd convince someone to buy the House but on the day the but a few goes were scheduled to close on their new home. Joey admitted to her that there was never a buyer. He owed so much money to his drug dealer that he signed over the deed to their house as payment. Mary Jo was stunned and furious. Mary Jo Stomach make lurched as she grappled with. Her husband's confession her jaw clenched. She couldn't open her mouth without screaming. Part part of her wanted to let rage takeover. She wanted to lose control but she couldn't. She had to be the adult she had to be responsible. She had to stay calm enough to clean up. The wreckage left behind by Joey stupid and irresponsible behaviour and she watched him walk across the room. He sagged against the wall. Tears came to his is almost against her will mary. Mary Jo softened. He looked so defeated as furious as she was. She still wanted to take care of him. He was like one of the kids. He needed her but she knew they couldn't continue on this path for much longer. If Joey kept living like this he would eventually self destruct and take her and the kids down with him the but a few hugos purchase their new house in Massapequa as planned but to do so they had tomorrow fifty thousand dollars. Joey's father in exchange Joey. We gave up his ownership and the auto body shop. He would continue to work there but only as an employee. Mary Jo also gave Joey in ultimatum. made him go to rehab or their marriage was over. Joey agreed and successfully completed a three week. Twelve step program. When he returned home he seemed to have conquered his addictions Larry? Joe was eager to forgive him and start. Fresh Rehab. Had cured heard the main source of their marital stress. Joey still occasionally push things too far in search for a good time in November of nineteen ninety he. He took out a loan to purchase a thirty one foot racing boat that was out of their budget but compared to the cocaine use. Mary Jo felt that this was a tame extravagance so she let it slide. At least the whole family could enjoy a summer of boat rides on the ocean but around the same time thirty five year old. Joey found another diversion one that he carefully hid from his life life that winter he met a sixteen year. Old Girl named Amy Fisher. It was a relationship that would change. His family's lives lives forever when we return. We'll see how troubled teen Amy Fisher fell for the charms terms of Joey Buttafuoco. Do you know how I can tell. 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Amy had a perfect upper middle class privileged life. Her parents owned a successful upholstery shop. In Freeport New York amy was an only child and her mother and father could afford to spoil her one neighbor commented. Her parents didn't set down a lot of rules but indulgent parents and material comforts couldn't insulate amy from tragedy. Amy reported that between between the ages of three and six years old she was molested by close relative she also said at the age of twelve. She was sexually assaulted by a man who who had been hired to retail their bathroom hurt and confused. She protected herself by characterizing. The encounter as consensual not even a teenager. She began to cultivate an image of herself as a precocious sexual free. Spirit these instances likely we had a profound effect on Amy's mental and physical health clinical psychologist luke cash 'em Konopka pointing to a breadth of research showing that childhood sexual abuse significantly changes its victims. Brain and alters its function cognition and emotion according to psychologists Suzanne Zan babble promiscuity and poor self esteem are unfortunately common reactions to early sexual abuse. MHM in August of Nineteen Ninety. Amy's parents bought her and new white. Dodge Daytona for her sixteenth birthday. Shortly before Christmas. Her father brought brought it to complete auto body for repairs. Amy accompanied her father to the shop. There she met Joey Buttafuoco for the first time. Nothing came of this initial encounter but it wasn't their last meeting over the next few months. Amy Returned to the shop several times whenever she she needed to fix minor damages or when she wanted alterations made she requested pink pinstripes to be painted along. The car's exterior and she. He asked for her name painted on the driver's side door jewelry. But if you go was happy to have her a repeat business and was friendly with amy and wasn't long before amy found any excuse to hang around shop. She likes Joey he provided. Oh I did a sympathetic ear to her as she complained about her parents. She didn't get along with her father. She said he had a violent temper and she was often unhappy. Be at home. Joey treated amy two slices of pizza and Diet Cokes. While she vented he was a friend she felt she needed. Hello Mary Jo Buttafuoco had she known about the relationship might not have been surprised to know that Joey was playing buddy to a teenager. She often accused him of behaving like a big overgrown kid but at that point she was busy with home. Improvement Projects and activities at her young children school school. She didn't notice Joey. Attention was divided. Meanwhile Amy Fisher loved getting closer to Joey especially really as her troubles at home. Increased in February of Nineteen ninety-one. Amy and her parents started finding more than usual. Their arguments arguments seemed like typical disagreements between a teenager and her parents butted heads over her missing curfew. The messy -ness of her room or her grades Reed's school but the fights often ended and amy screaming at the top of her lungs and running out of the house and a half one night. An argument got heated enough that amy left home and drove to her aunt's house without telling her parents where she was going. Her father fearing she had run away filed a missing persons report and the report he called his daughter totally uncontrollable. Oh lable. Once her parents found out she was safe. Amy Stayed with her grandmother for a few weeks while tensions cooled when she returned home home life seemed to go back to normal but there were warning signs that amy was more troubled than her parents knew that spring sixteen year old amy started dating an eighteen year old former classmate named Christopher drill owes. It wasn't a formal relationship. They sometimes just this metaphor movie or meal and then had sex. Chris made it clear that he didn't want a monogamous relationship. And Amy didn't press for one over time. Chris started to guess that amy had a crush on someone else. Chris Chris was right. Amy was still taking every opportunity. She could Dec- Joey Buttafuoco at his auto shop on July. Second Nineteen Ninety one. She dropped her car off for some repairs. She said that Joey then offered to give her a ride home. Other workers at the shop said the trip should have taken about about ten minutes but joey was gone for three hours when they got to Amy's house. It was empty that after noon. Amy and Joey had sex for the first time in her bedroom. They met again later that night at a motel and Freeport for another tryst crest after that the song each other almost every day at Amy's house in motels on Joey's boat or or in an apartment above the autoshop. When Amy's friend Kris found out about Joey? Amy explained to him that they were in love. She really believed they were. Joey wasn't like the boy she knew in high school. He took her on real dates to expensive restaurants center flowers and gave her jewelry. Amy's peers didn't understand why the older man appealed to her but but joey's age didn't bother her. She liked his experience telling friends that they were having great sex she liked. The Joey made her feel l.. More mature not just because he was older but because he introduced her to a thrilling new adult world in early August asked about a month after. Amy and Joey started their fair. Amy told Joey that she needed money over the summer. She had gotten a salesclerk job at the sunrise mall in Massapequa however she was fired after just a few weeks because she often came in late or called in sick she asked Joey we how she might find another source of income. He allegedly suggested that she become a sex worker. He introduced her to Abba escort. Service a business that employed about two dozen women who provided sex work at a rate of between eighty five dollars and three hundred dollars per hour. The service operated out of Baldwin the hamlet where Joey and Mary Jo Buttafuoco had spent their early married years. Some sources claim that Joey had established a connection with the service years earlier supplying the sex workers and their clients with drugs in the mid nineteen eighties. Another source even claim that Joey had worked for the escort service as a driver. Joey denied all of these accusations. Including that he suggested sex work to amy but the timing suggests that he may have had some kind of influence that August amy managed to get a fake. Id stating she was twenty one years old and was quickly hired by ABBA. She acquired a regular clientele of about ten men. She liked the attention she got from this work mark but it came with negative consequences the same month she began working at Aba. Amy's mother brought her to see a gynecologist. Amy was informed that she had contracted cla media. She told her parents she had gotten it from Julie but a few go. Amy's father. Father was furious. He called the local district attorney's Office for advice on pressing charges for statutory rape. They told him he could file a complaint but but ultimately he declined to do so he told the DA's office that he was afraid his daughter might run away again if he went ahead with the case. Amy's parents confronted Joey but he denied everything he told them that he was happily married with two children. He had no interest Austin going anywhere near a sixteen year old girl when amy's parents pressed her again. She protected Joey. She told them she had lied about thoroughfare and that she must have gotten the STI from somebody else. Amy's parents were used to her lying to them by now. The hastily apologize is to joey and left. Their suspicions drop. But despite Amy's denials she was still very much sleeping with Joey and she didn't feel feel that her work interfered in the relationship that was just sacks. She and Joey were in love it. Did it bother her however that Joey was married and he apparently enjoyed stoking her jealousy often speaking highly of Mary. Jo in front of amy telling her that he was lucky to have such a beautiful wife. Amy had started nurturing hopes that she and Joey might be married some day but she knew that could never happen as long as he was still with. Mary Jo lead in the summer of nineteen ninety. One still Only weeks into our affair with Joey. Amy went to her friend and casual sex partner Chris Jericho's and asked him if he knew where she could get a gun according to Chris. Amy told him outright she wanted to get rid of Mary. Jo but a few go. So when amy got to Chris's apartment. He seemed excited to see her. They I always had a good time together. Not quite like with Joey but still nice. She knew she could trust Chris so as soon as she got inside she. She asked him about the gun after explaining what she wanted. Amy Studied Chris's base waiting for him to look shocked but he only looked confused. He probably didn't think she was tough enough to shoot a gun. Amy couldn't wait to prove him wrong soon. She'd show him and everyone else that she wasn't afraid she was certain that she wouldn't be caught. She was careful and even if the police did catch her she would tell them that she was a kid. Amy Didn't think they would send a teenage girl to prison and if they tried joey would find a way to protect her. He loved her too much to let anything bad happen to her and soon nothing would stop them from being together. Amy Understood that shooting. Someone was wrong wrong but somehow she came to think about the murder in the same way she thought about her sex work. Doing something illegal seemed Cool Glamorous Morris and adult planning the murder of her lover's wife meter field like a worldly FEM fatale and amy felt certain certain that Joey would be better off if she killed Mary Jo. She thought she would be doing him a favor. When we return? Amy Fisher's obsession with Mary. Jo buttafuoco intensifies. Now back to the story which in the late summer of nineteen ninety-one seventeen year old. Amy Fisher began an illicit affair with thirty five year. Old Joey Buttafuoco Joey's wife. Mary Jo had no idea he was cheating on her. And she certainly didn't know that amy had started telling her friends that that she wished Mary Jo were dead after. Amy Approached her friend. Chris trello is about acquiring gun. He brushed her off and hope that was the end end of it but amy kept pushing. She had loaned him some money the previous spring and she reminded him that he owed her. If he found her a gun they would be then to get amy office back. Chris introduced her to his neighbor. Twenty one year old Stephen Sleiman Stephen. Stephen owned a twenty two caliber rifle. which used for target practice? Chris didn't tell Steven what amy wanted. He merely said go along with her her. She'll give you all the sex you want. Just days after Kris introduced them. Amy Stephen Outright if he would shoot Mary Joe but a few go for her. She promised him money and sex in exchange for the hit. Stephen thought amy must be pulling some elaborate prank. He couldn't believe that the suburban teen was really interested and murder but he went along with it hoping to get the money and sacks Samie promised him he didn't think there was any way the murder would ever actually happen for the next two months however he diligently followed Mary Mary Joe but a few go around and updated amy on the woman schedule. Happy with his efforts. Amy paid him six hundred dollars and performed oral all sex on him sometimes when they were together. Amy Talk to him about her work with the escort service or boasted about her past relationships nope but mostly she talked about getting rid of Mary Jo and how it would improve her chances with Joey. She told Stephen Joey loves his wife and he would never hurt her but he could get used to the idea of her not being around in November of nineteen ninety one seventeen year old. Amy was finally ready to take action. She filled Stephen it on her plan. She intended to knock on the Butterfield. GOES DOOR PRETENDING TO SELL candy for charity. Stephen would hide around the side of the House. Once Mary Jo answered the door he he could leap out and shoot her. Stephen drove aiming to the but a few goes house but even as amy repeated her plan he was sure her she must be joking but when they got there. Amy pushed him over to his hiding place beside the house as he waited there. Amy Amy walked up to the front door confidently and rang the bell when Mary Jo answered the door she faced her husband's mistress for for the first time although she had no idea who amy was armed with a box of store bought candy aiming me gave her speech about charity. Mary Jo tried to send amy away saying they already had too much. Leftover candy from Halloween with amy persuaded waited her. It was for a good cause. Mary Jo relented and went back inside to get her purse. Amy Signal to Stephen Waiting for him to step forward with the gun but he froze when Mary Jo went back inside the house. Stephen fled back to his car. She never even noticed is Tim. Amy was furious after selling Mary. Jo The candy. She returned to the car and be rated Stephen for failing to follow through on the murder. Stephen Shakily admitted that the gun wasn't even loaded amy fumed. Her first plan had failed to destroy. Joey's marriage if she wanted him to herself she would have to come up with something else about a month later. Amy Gave Joey an ultimatum. He had to choose between her and Mary Joe. Uh if he didn't get a divorce. Amy threatened to stop seeing him but her threat didn't work out the way she'd hoped. Joey told her that it was time signed to end their affair. Any Way with the holidays coming he needed to spend more time with his family. Perhaps to give amy a distraction Joey. Are We introduced her to Paul Makelele. A twenty nine year old personal trainer Paul on the gym where Joey used to work out. He suggested that amy start working out there to after joining the gym amy quickly latched onto Paul E.. became one of her closest confidants. Confidant's amy bitterly complained to Paul about how joey had treated her. He listened to her amused and often teased her about Joey he could tell that she was trying to act mature beyond her years and he tried to remind her that she was just a teenager. She had her whole future ahead ahead of her. She didn't need to pin all her hopes on a married thirty six year old. But despite Paul's advice amy couldn't move pass Joey after months of hearing his declarations of love for her. Amy Felt certain he would leave. His wife was her whole relationship with Joey a sham. Or did Joey really want to be with her and only stayed with his wife out of a sense of duty Mary Jo meanwhile and no reason to suspect expect anything was wrong. At all at the end of Nineteen ninety-one she was enjoying some of the happiest times of her life. She loved living in Oyster Bay. Close to friends and family her children. Eleven Year Old Paul and eight-year-old Jessica were thriving as far as she knew her marriage was at a high point. Mary Jo stood by the window of the Beach Club looking out at the water. Everyone everyone at the Party was celebrating preparing to ring in the New Year soon. She would return to the crowd to join them but she wanted to take a minute to reflect while watching the waves outside the com happy feeling that washed over her almost felt too good to be true five years ago she never would have guessed she'd be here in the last few months. Something had shifted between her and Joey for the Better Dr. Joey was so attentive thoughtful and affectionate. It was like they were newlyweds again. Mary Jo turned and searched the crowd until she spotted her husband. He was in his element surrounded by friends. Probably cracking joke. Mary Jo couldn't hear what he was saying but she couldn't help but smile she felt so light. Life felt so easy it was blissful soon. The clock struck midnight and she and Joey found each other so they could share a champagne toast and a kiss as he celebrated. Joey assured her that. Nineteen nineteen ninety. Two would be their best year yet. Mary Jo felt certain he was right early. Nineteen Ninety two the but a few goes marriage showed no signs of being strained. Friend said they hardly ever seem to argue. They were frequently seen holding hands as they stroll through the neighborhood they look like a couple madly in love. Meanwhile amy. He seemed to accept that Joey was going to leave his wife instead. She had developed a crush on her gym trainer. Paul and she told him so. The twenty nine year old initially told her that he wanted to take things slow and build a friendship but they still begin sleeping together not long after. Amy joined the gym him in March. Paul invited amy to come with him for a weekend at his cottage in Vermont. Amy was thrilled. She told Paul that if he asked she would happily move there with him permanently. Although amy said she wanted a serious relationship Paul notice that that she still kept in touch with Joey. Amy said they were just friends now. He was still her mechanic. The Paul could tell that things were more complicated than and she let on when Joey noticed. How close amy and Paul were becoming? He didn't like it aiming told. Paul Joe is really jealous of you you. It bothers him a lot. That hang out with you sometime in the early spring of Nineteen ninety-two Joey. BUTTAFUOCO UKO and Amy Fisher resumed their sexual relationship. Amy still felt betrayed by Joey. She told Paul that she felt stupid. To have ever believed. You've Joey's lies but she couldn't seem to resist him either. She confessed to Paul that she thought she was in love with both of them. Paul Sensed Amy's ambivalence and he pushed her to make a decision he told her. You've probably had a weird past if you're looking to drop all that right and move on. Maybe they'll be something for us as amy tried to juggle her feelings for both Paul Joey. She felt more confused than ever her. Her confusion. Turn to anger as she realized that regardless of how Joey felt nothing between them and changed he was still married to Mary Jo. He showed no signs of wanting to make a commitment to amy. And now he was trying to obstruct her relationship unshipped with Paul as amy struggled with her uncertainty she recalled her plan from the previous fall. She she remembered how she wanted to kill Mary. Jo Buttafuoco at the time. She was desperate to win. Joey's affection and filled with hope about their future together now. It seemed that there was nothing she could do to make. Joey love her but she could still make him feel as hurt as she did for the second time since the start of her affair with Joey. Buttafuoco Amy Fisher began to think about how she she could get her hands on a gun. thanks again for tuning into crimes of passion. We'll be back Wednesday with part two of Amy Fisher and the BUTTAFUOCO story. We'll discuss. 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Mastering your mind: tools to create a mindset of success with Ariel Garten

Entrepreneur on FIRE

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Mastering your mind: tools to create a mindset of success with Ariel Garten

"What's shaking fire nation J. L. D. here with an audio masterclass on mastering your mind the tools to to create the mindset of success into drop these value bombs. I have brought Ariel Garten Orioles neuroscientists psychotherapists in co-founder of Mus- news the brain sensing headband that helps you meditate. REO HAS BEEN FEATURED ON CNN New York Times Forbes Fortune Men's health and so much more aerial all in Muse help you understand and supercharge your brain and fire nation in today's masterclass will be talking about what is meditation how it can help you what happens during meditation to the brain how can help you as an entrepreneur and so much more when we get back from thinking our sponsors the one one funnel away challenge from. Click funnels support you from day one through day thirty to help you get your funnel live. In just thirty days joined the next one funnel funnel away challenge for just one hundred dollars at ao fire dot com slash funnel. That's ill fire dot com slash funnel customers customers want more from brands delivering more means owning the customer experience taking control over data acquisition analysis creative and delivery clovio caused owned a marketing and believes is the best path to growth for more visit cleave. Yo Dot com slash fire. That's CLEO DOT com slash fire fire arial say what's up to fire nation and sure so the interesting about yourself that most people don't know hello hello fire nation. It is awesome to be here so something about me. You do not know I just learn that John. One car on the price is right. What you don't know about me is that I cry at of joy and happiness when people win insane things on game shows 'cause I love when I love life and I'm happy for everyone. That is so fun. Although I could tell you a couple of stories about winning my car that might turn your tears of joy of joy tears of sadness ahead nece because it's a pretty interesting little backdrop so that whole game but overall it was a great experience. It was fun and I love that you love celebrating meeting with people so much fun and fire nation as I dropped in the intro. What are we talking all about. Mastering your minds about the tools. They're going to create the mindset instead of success and mail. Let me tell you Arielle has created quite the tool we're going to be focusing on that today but first and foremost let's just start off by sharing with fire nation Arielle. What is meditation so most people have a misconception about meditation. They think your mind is supposed to go blank and then maybe be a levitated neither of those things ever happen. Meditation is just a practice or training that leads to healthy and positive mind states so it's a training that you do over and over again that trains your mind to be healthier and happier there lots of different forms of meditation. Most people have heard of Zen or walking meditation. The most most common one is focused attention refocused attention on your breath. Your mind wanders notice it any return and when you do this activity repeatedly some amazing things things happen to your mind and body which we'll talk about in the rest of the episode so I love the fact that you're really clarifying that I'm not needing to levitating while I meditate so I'm not totally doing it wrong and fire nation going to talk a little bit more my personal meditation in the upcoming segments here but let's just talk about how not she could help people in general so there's has over a thousand published studies talking about meditations ability to make changes in your mind and your body to help you improve your attention. Decrease your stress improve your productivity. The improve your gre scores even chain potentially change the way your body and brain age. It's really tremendous and when we kind of dig into how and why this happens as we see a few things so remember. I told you that in a focused attention meditation you put your attention on your breath you notice your mind has wandered you then. Choose choose to turn your attention back to your brother than following your wandering thought. This is. The basic focused attention loop when you do that. What happens is you for many people for the first time don't follow your wondering thoughts in your wondering mind so most of us just kind of go through the world with a brain that thinks us we have lots of thoughts and we just sort of assume that they're supposed to be there and often they're negative and ruminating frustrating and emotional in just kind of keep thinking him well when you choose to take your attention off if you're wondering thoughts and put it onto a neutral object what you've done for many people for the first time in your life. Is You've changed the relationship to your thoughts. You've gained control over them. You are no longer at the mercy of what's in your mind. You can actually choose what you think about so you don't have to think about the things that are negative in ruminating and frustrating you can choose where where to put your mind and when that happens will often people because come a whole lot happier because you're not stuck in negative ruminating frustrating thoughts you also have incredibly positive effects on your body can improve your immune system help you go into rest and digest it can help improve your cardiovascular function on and on. I mean fire nation all of those benefits. They're real and who wouldn't want those benefits. Are I'm just curious because you know one thing we hear about all all the time in this world where we're literally having these attention spans that are now like less than goldfish or like three seconds four seconds then we're off to the next thing. Our phones are always buzzing. Seeing our computers are always flashing. We're always hearing all these noises and distractions is just like the Bright Shiny Object Syndrome is everywhere. I mean in my mind. That's why I go to meditation because it just helps me just disconnect in refocus and recenter. What have you seen in that area. We've seen tremendous effect in that area so when we talked about you know following the wandering mind what we're talking about is following any distraction so whether you're following the distraction of your phone going or the urge to go check the kitchen to see what you're going to eat right now or the urge to go talk to a friend at the water cooler you can then identify all of those little distractions and wanderings wondering say nope don't need to go back. They're gonNA come back to the thing that matters to me the work. That's in front of me. The thing I am focused on my big goal so becomes an extraordinary tool to decreased distractions in all aspects of your life. I'm a huge fan of tools like about three years ago. I noticed that entrepreneurs were really struggling when when it came to setting smart goals specific measurable attainable relevant. Time Bounds and then actually accomplishing those goals which is why I created the tool called the freedom him journal and now it just guides people walk through that process and now they do it once in Allie understand the process and they had they have had the guidance to learn how how to correctly set a smart goal and then accomplish that goal you've done something very similar with meditation in Ukraine tool and that tool is called Muse that I've actually been using since two thousand sixteen so on my fourth year now of actually using Muse so give us your origin story behind that like where did the idea come from to create that a tool. What specifically is in? How does it make meditation easier. s`amuse is a brain sensing headband helps you meditate and so awesome for me. Hey that you know the entrepreneur on fire. The entrepreneur has been using this for the last four years. I love that's fantastic. Some use gives you real time feedback on your meditation Tation to know if you're doing it right and to keep you into that focused attention zone so most people when they sit down to meditate don't really know what they're supposed to be doing in your brain. Kinda bounces is all over the place now like Oh my God this sucks you get up and you just don't do it again. You think you're added any dental. Do things that you're bad at. We wanted to change all that so we made a tool. It really shows you what you're supposed to be doing. The gives you real time feedback on your brain as you meditate and that allows you to track your progress with real data so there's is no more like. I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing this working. It's like yes. This is what you're doing and look at the progress. It is working so amused as is it tracks your brain while you meditate eight with an EEG headband. It's actually reading your brain activity so the same device that ut and like a hospital but this is in suite slim little wearable bowl device just kind of like a fitbit so you've got a little wearable device on your forehead. It's tracking your brain activity in. It's letting you hear the sound of your mind. Will you meditate when you're thinking distracted acted mind wandering you actually hear it a stormy and as you bring yourself to quiet focused attention it quite the storm so in this really simple way you're able to know when your mind is wondering and when you're focused and then after the fact you get data charts graphs things at show you what your brain was doing moment to moment so you can reflect you can learn you can see our progress and you can keep on-track to meditate day after day and then get all the amazing benefits. Let's talk data for a second fire nation because the reality is this. I'm a competitive person like I just love competition. I love analytics. I love numbers. I love just the overall image engage. That's what gets measured gets gets improved. It's just such a true statement for me and so before music and I was just sitting down. I was doing it from day to day. Having those issues that reo was talking about or just like back on the good of this mind wandering I suck at this like Blah Blah Blah all these things were going through my mind and it was tough to get consistent with that but then when I started using muse he's back in two thousand sixteen is like day one and then I looked at day ten and then I was like I can see the pros the progress that I'm making now I can actually see these visual graphs rafts of how I'm improving you know how I'm more calm for longer sessions during these meditations and to me it's just like man. I can see the growth I can see the progress and men do we as humans especially preneurs. Love progress has such a special word and we can see ourselves progressing whether it's our business our life our health our wealth else wherever that might be that is absolute goals so to me. That's such a huge part in a huge benefit amuses that I'm getting real tangible feedback back on what my last session was but also how that compared to prior sessions in where my trends going and there's been weeks been like I just off my game right now and I've been able to identify. Wi- like it's sleep has been crappy or stress has been through the roof because of this project or that and it's really this pulse in this insight right into my life that I just really truly loves so. Reo like around that he may be expounded about about how other people have used muse to really benefit themselves and that data driven way so you really described one of the main benefits of meditation which is to be able to give you insight into yourself so that you can then make changes. So you know Mus- doesn't Zap you. It doesn't automatically make you smarter but it does guide you and teach you how to do an activity. That's really critical to help you. Hone your focus and and reflect reflect on what's going on in your life reflect on what's going on your body and then make the appropriate changes to improve people describe it as having a mirror so like if you'd never looked in a mirror and one day looked in the mirror like oh my God this is this is what my here's been looking like the whole time so you can like look in that mirror and be like Oh oh and it's not it's not a scary thing. It's not a weird thing. It's just if you've never meditated before the shows you what to do and if you have an existing practice this gives you a new year ear new insights to understand your own trauma process and really really meaningful ways and people get super excited about it and then they start to share music with people. I I don't know if you had this happen. Your household but like mom brings it home. Dad starts using it. The Teen Start Meditating and competing with each other meditating war then all of a sudden. Everybody in your life is talking talking about meditation talking about how it's working what your graphs look like what the changes are in you see the effect really like ramp forward with everyone. We see it in companies. He's too so we'll bring us into a company often like the CEO will use it. He falls in love with he or she falls in love with that and says like I want everyone on my team. Doing this and we come in and we do challenges challenges. We'll have like teams working together. Meditating talking about their meditation you can really see the shift and culture. It's beautiful and it's such an overall is good brand. Play fire fire nation to think about I mean this is an area where you can strategically invest in yourself by saying hey like who's the decision maker or who's the person that's kind of the leader at this company. What if I give him or her. One of our products they fall in love with it then obviously that becomes something that's talked about at meetings you know people start the conversation precision and it just becomes more of this now culture in the company. They're just like wow meditations actually something we can talk about. That's open. That's potentially beneficial. Let me give it a whirl because so you know if my boss who's crushes finding a beneficial is going to be beneficial for me so it's just a good idea in a business as you're listening to different strategies and tactics that rl us to blow low at Muse. How can you do something and your business in a similar way now. Let's get back to specifics during meditation like what does happen to the brain so oh meditation can actually make real changes in the brain so we have this area in the front of her head called the prefrontal CORTEX. It is our attentional control center. It's are higher order processing. It's the thing that separates us from most other mammals to thing that lets us really be human to think to plan to organize to focus so bad news as you age. You're prefrontal CORTEX. Than's good news. If you're able to maintain a long-term meditation practice you can maintain the thickness of your prefrontal Cortex even as you you age so this ability to keep your attention on track to inhibit to planned organiz is a as a really a process that can and grow and actually chain grow with the structural changes in your brain as you meditate totally awesome we also have another error brain called the Michaela and the images the fight or flight response wants. It's the thing that causes you to go like there's a fire over there these days. There's a wrinkle my pants and I'm going into a meeting. Oh no no no no. I got an email for my boss. Maybe I'm being fired. Hold on I just hyper reactive so our big ten to hyper react and that gives gives us these sort of overly strong emotional responses that can cause friction in our company caused us to make bad decisions caused us to speak unfairly the people yell at her kids in so with meditation what we're able to do is to actually calm down regulate the McCullough and you even see this us in short term meditators. You can see a decrease in the activation of the amid look in long term meditators. You can even see a decrease in the size of the Mike less so these are like persistent changes and you can kind of think about it as the relationship between the prefrontal CORTEX and the Akilah so meditation you are strengthening your prefrontal. Cortex your parents who can plan Organiz see and it's now you're prefrontal. CORTEX is talking to a migdal in down regulating saying like hey it's okay. This thing is not auden emergency. We can actually see the landscape here we can of wisdom we can see far and wide and everything is. Okay and McLeish calm down. You really strengthen your prefrontal. CORTEX is ability to regulate your Mikla and therefore regulate yourself and your emotions and your responses and your ability to wisely what's going on in world fire nation. I hope you understanding all of the vast benefits and I mean that's just the thing is back in the day. You might have asked me you know he John. What are the benefits of meditation and it's been like you know. It's just important just like relax. Closure is and just take a deep breath and you know you're. GonNa get some benefit from that but I would have. Maybe stopped there because that's just where my education starts but you can just see these are based on studies and long term research of all of these massive benefits that happened to somebody who practices meditation on a regular basis so the trick is how do you get into it on a regular basis and again for me. It's just been the ability to track and see my progress over time that's honestly been that massive game changer and without going to deep because they don't want to scare people off but talk a little bit about some of the neuroscience of meditation so we just talked about the neuroscience of the relationship between the prefrontal CORTEX and the amid Dula meditation can make even more changes in your brain and long term meditators. We can see an increase in the size of the hippocampus so the hippocampus the campus is the area of your brain responsible for learning and memory we also see increased thickness in the Corpus callosum. The Corpus callosum is the bundles of nerves that connector left and right hemisphere so it's as if you're seeing increased integration in the brain you can see an increase in the temporal parietal junction so long term meditators. You'll see an increase in the part of the brain the temporal parietal junction that's associated with compassion empathy and perspective changing some of that give me some of that yeah yes and one of my favorite studies done by. Dr Sarah Lazar she was able to show that after just eight weeks of meditation participants had an increase crease in the density of the gray matter. WHOA so just for context the gray matter is the number of connections that you have in your brain and those neuroscientist. I'm not supposed to say Glib things like well L. The more gray matter how you have the smarter I can tell you that Einstein had more gray matter than the average individual are like that correlation. We're going to run with it and fire nation if you think thank. 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How muses helped me become that regular meditation so let's talk about the are moments like what was the moment that you're like? You know what I'm going to create an actual tool. That's GONNA wrap around. Somebody's head like where did that. First this vision come from so the vision started back in two thousand and three. I was working in the lab of Dr Steve Man. He's one of the inventors wearable computer he's the guy that made google glass literally before Google did and he had an early brain computer interface system he built at mit in the nineties was a single electrode on the back of your head and by focusing focusing a relaxing by shifting your brain state. We were using it to control music in the room and is we're doing this. I stood back and said Oh my God we're like literally controlling rolling the world with their brains and the world needs to know about this and this is totally commercialize until I can see making a product here so it got together with my co founders. Chris Amy Mini who's a brilliant engineer and he was one of Steve's master students and Trevor Coleman who is a friend of mine who was just awesome it business knowing how to make things people loved and the three of us got together like any good startup regularly intrepid basement building business plans for business that didn't yet exist and we you know trying to show people people the power of their minds so we made a levitating chair he could literally relax and the chair with levitating the sky and then we made a thought control beer tap would focus on the beer would poor and we did massive project at the Olympics where people could control the lights on the scene tower. The Canadian prompt buildings and Niagara Falls with their brain from across the country like totally we're completely able to see so far outside the box and accomplish something that most people would have thought was completely impossible in credit credit a lot of that with these similar techniques that I learned in meditation to like quiet the negative voice too quiet any sense of limitation that you have and just be able to see this clearfield of what is possible so we had this amazing amazing technology and it was still in search of an actual product. We didn't know what the thing we're going to go to market with. It was and ultimately recognized that as cools it was to control technology outside of yourself. It was even more powerful and more valuable to be able to control control our inner technology and so we recognized that we could use this tool to give people real time feedback on their brain in what was going to be one of the most valuable people skills to learn in their life and that was to meditate. I was a psychotherapist at the time is trained as a neuroscientist so I was constantly trying to teach my patients to meditate eight and nobody would ever do it. You know you teach them. They go home. They do a little bit. They come back. It was a failure I was even struggling with my own meditation practice because as I had a million ideas and a million things I wanted to do in sitting down for five minutes seemed antithetical and through the course of building this tool we recognize that we are building something that could really moves in deal from you for humanity and now you know came out in two thousand fourteen you got it in two thousand sixteen now we have literally hundreds of thousands thousands of people all over the world that use it every single day. We have two hundred different research institutions that use it like Mayo Clinic Harvard NASA. It's even the NASA Marseille emulator We have professional sports teams that use it. NFL teams Olympic like Olympians across the aboard people who just need to hone their focus their attention and rock on in life now use the tools to help them do that. Reo fear is something that lives within us. All I mean we're human beings reality of life but stopped so many viewers from ever accomplishing what their goals are what their dreams are so as we're talking about meditation. How can we use meditation to help US overcome these barriers of fear so fear has two components one is mental and the other is emotional so meditation teaches you to deal with both of them so in the mental component. You have things that your brain is telling you like Oh. No this is not gonNA work. It's not good enough enough. Go back to where it's safe and meditation teaches you to deal with those thoughts. Let them go not engage in them and keep focused on what matters if you're also has an emotional component. Can you feel this thing in your body. That's going and when he can learn to overcome the emotional aspect fear when you can learn to change your relationship to it you can get through any fear so in this station of fear rises in your body at rather than it triggering a bunch of thoughts which triggers more fearful sensational triggers more thoughts with meditation. You can say okay. I'm having some sensation in my body. My chest is tightening. My heart is racing but I don't need to give into that. I I don't need to be ruled by it. I can acknowledge the sensation happening. I don't need to fee roll into thoughts and feelings. I can disconnect the relationship between the feeling I can experience. Sensation fully have come have a go and no actually I am fine this whole time that fear doesn't need to roll me that this is just sensation that might be old might be based on the past might be based on you know how our bodies were wired to live thousands of years ago. It's not based based on present. It's just my body's reaction and I can see clearly the goal in the future that I'm going towards and I don't need to let sensation get in my way fire nation and you don't need to be ruled by fear acknowledge and then release and that's something that meditation can really help you do so. Let's talk about testimonials because people like myself have been using news has helped in a lot of different ways but what are some other users of mu saying that you think fire nation would find really interesting so we keep hearing things across the board. in some things that are surprising so sleep is an obvious one. Lots of people use muse before they go to bed to help them sleep better and stay asleep. people use it during the day to deal with stress as it comes up. I mentioned there are a lot of really top athletes. I can't say who they are. Arbat like There's a football team that wins all the time and they use news. I can say Tom Brady because he's the guy I can't say anything and you know they've found it extremely effective across the board to help with you know sports performance recovery and the ability to like live well every day and the stories really vary you know sometimes it's a mom talking about how for the first time she was able to realize that she was in the park with their kid and not present just helps you make life better because you're present at the moment and for other people it can be about productivity like knowing how much more efficient you can be because you're not pulled off by your distractions in your own mind or real distractions in the world around every couple of seconds so the the stories have been pretty awesome now see. I've been using US as part of my morning routine for a long time and I just love it as part of my morning routine senior go for walks. I have a rebounder I meditate journal. I have like this ninety minute morning routine that I use but I'm going to be honest I never really thought about also using it right before bed to kind of test because I recently got the ring and the ordering gives me these unbelievable sleep scores when wake up every morning so I know how long I was deep sleep. Rem you how long light sleeper times. I woke up throughout the nights what my heart rate was like. There's so many cool things again. I'm just like a data guy like I love to be able to actually see how I've been doing. In different areas of my life I am going to start using amuse who's before bed now as well and just to see what if any impact that has like that'll be really interesting. Do you have a partner that yeah okay so notice if he or she notices notices that difference because that's something I've actually heard from partners or like Oh. My husband sleeps differently. Maybe like the snoring will disappear. 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Friday 4/30/21 - Horse Racing Shit Draft (ft. Elio & Reags)

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Friday 4/30/21 - Horse Racing Shit Draft (ft. Elio & Reags)

"Our ivan may welcome to dog walk presented by purcell sports. You pilots and monday. This is the bonus snake draft today. It's friday april thirtieth year. We're going to be doing it on horseriding shit so you probably saw the title. I don't even know why i'm telling you that but regardless you get the gist here just reminding everyone that some stuff might not be in the right order. Some type might not make sense. But you get what's going on here. This is draft number two. Hope you enjoy it. Hope you have a great weekend. We'll see you guys monday. All right. we'll start with elliot lessons. Bob has been on the show before allio. Our social media guy danny has a number one through five behind his back. Which number is it. Would you say sorry that now. He got really quiet three. I can't hear l. does you turn his mic. Can you hear me check check. what would you do. it's too quiet no. I didn't do anything for now. You're fine you're fine okay. I chose number three number three. It's number three so she gets to pick which draft slot. Do you want one through five. I'll take three okay. Helps egg number three. Then we'll go. We'll go to bob. We'll go to the other guest. Bob one through four We'll go to to Carl one through four one. I'll take the first overall pick. All right carl will take one overall White sox day one through three two one bob to four or five. I'll take to. I want to get in front of elia. I don't want to be closer all right one or two. I don't know what we're doing here. You're picking third in the draft. It's a snake traffic so like you're picking your fantasy draft pick here. I'll take less than By tax dave. You've got four all right so this makes sense l. Oh you got the third pick. So he's shaking his head. No he makes no sense at the third pick. I like those guys note makes no sense. But i'm okay with it. He's gonna win this like like the perfect way to describe. How just whatever sure fine. I mean he's in the basement. He's in the. He's in the basement of tony's on the phone. He's the first day back from vacation and i'm already time oates right. It's derby week kentucky. Derby think everybody enjoys the fucking derby right white sox dave. Yeah it's an american tradition. Everybody whether you only if you know decrease said yasser people are creatures for the derby. You watch horse racing once a year. You go to church twice a year for christmas and easter this like horse racing fans version of being increased to great way to put it. Why didn't added one more for the triple crown. And you're right yeah. That's a great way to put it. So as you heard allio in rigs are on zoom right. Now chief is out. He's at a wedding In san diego or something so we have we have to fill ins Allio do what questions do you have before we before we go tom wolf all the you know the league. I have no idea what you said thinking. Some horse racing up. I mean i. My life is horse racing. So i have a lot of stuff but that's all. I really know what i'm doing today. That's good that's good. That's all you need. It's it's legitimately gonna be broad. You could pick whatever you want as long as it has to do with horseracing. You're in bob. You got noticed. Seven minutes so i don. You're gonna see my see my dump burning here. Lie which is a scary thing. You know think you're an advantage because right. I listened to the rigs. Golf draft one. At least i got an idea. What what you guys were going for with the golf shit now. Translating into horse racing chip carl. How failing. I mean i don't. I don't know shit about horse racing. I like going to the track with my family and my in laws and stuff in a blast going up to arlington But i'm definitely the biggest novice aer dave horses eddie. That's like you're not the woods and then obviously we. We got to chuck experts here. So i'm going to do my best though. I'm gonna compete anyways. 'cause i love the fucking snake draft l. e. in my world. Thank you thank you. you're welcome. It was weird Before we begin. Congratulations to jeff de lo. He won the sit down Chain restaurant draft can't accept his speech but Yeah i think he he was. He was a favourite sell congrats. I don't i'm you're not congrats on my behalf. I don't offer him any congrat- show really is starting to lean towards the gas and you've done that intentionally. Yeah it's good when a guest comes in and they have some some real expertise and could sprinkle stuff on Right i think one hundred percent of brings the best on us. Yeah for sure. If i was doing horse racing with someone who didn't know shit about horse racing. I'd be much more inclined to melted. Yeah now you got your rise to the occasion for sure. Like i would say. I'm the biggest horse racing guy out of the four of us even on not like a huge huge horse racing guy do follow it. It's like in my blood. My dad fucking crazy over it. I've been around it my whole life. But i'm a little intimidated being in the same snake draft with elian in bobby riggs for sure. I get intimidate. But i have. I have to like sound smart. At least you know because we found dave we've you. We've talked about horses. I think you're fine. Yeah i'll be fine but like i wanna impress fun. So there's also a difference between knowing about horse racing and just knowing your way around the track and knowing what goes on there so we'll see once again. The order is carl. Rigs elliott white sox. Dave and myself. Eddie as v Don't have donovan ad radio. Let's let's just hop right into it. Carl you're up in. Did we clear up. We're doing this. Because of the derby right said very clear we like to model them around shit like that. Well i'm taking one. I mean i'm taking the derby one taking kentucky derby first overall that's the pick This shouldn't be that complicated. I'm lucky getting the first overall pick but listen. This is a big sports day. In every house across america we would like clean the houses a kid in like get ready for the derby runs in the afternoon and it was like a big fuck and do the yard work. Dads out drinking beers in the garage. Mom's making mint juleps. Get the fucking house organize. Maybe my uncle or coming over. Maybe my grandparents were stopped in the race. Isn't that fucking long at all along the whole day and then it's over just like that and for that minute you know as a complete amateur and somebody who doesn't spend a lot of time at o. T. b.'s or up at the track. So that's a that's a great fucking minute and sports and within the last four or five years dave you were with me. I wanna bet on the kentucky. I like pick the horse. That's always a great thing. It's a great field. I love the kentucky derby one. I'm out it is you. It's you pick the super bowl right like you picked a super bowl of horse racing to me a no brainer. In the first round one one makes total sense. elliott like that number one overall. Are you want you want them to go. A little deeper. There was that to easy. Well yeah i mean Everybody loves the kentucky derby and it is a bait two minutes in sports. I just personally don't like that race. I don't like doing it that. Release the best of all my races because it's sort of a fake race that if you're a real horse racing fame fun i mean i have a great i love. I love the derby. If of course yeah absolutely and know like just because it's just my favorite my favorite seeing helio choppy video screen. Are you're right over there. Just very few need to take a breather. Do you need to step out. No i mean if it were up. Dead elliott would be sitting next to us all right. Ed won't say it's also to audience. Don't bitch ed because ellios not sitting in fucking chiefs. Turn it all right. Elliot come chicago for the snake draft. You know short notice guys caught me short. It's just i don't know for some researchers reminds me from when dave would say you guys who do the power hour it'd be who who is the third one you in mcshea. Todd say will just say. Three words expected anything different. I'm kind of happy that that's it not again. It's just funny. He's gonna get straight to the point where we're gonna pick from moving the guy He was just running around the bahamas and tidy whitey's and now he's just honor show to say over under under twenty five hundred so i appreciate it but re up all right. I'm gonna go with. What i think is the best feeling in horse racing. The best the best moment. That's when the horses come down the home stretch when they make that final. Turn and you have your horse. And it's in like stalking position or fearing the leave that moment when you see if you're sitting close to the finish line and you see them turn the corner for home. There's no more exciting moment in in this sport and it really in sports in general it's top five feeling the top five moment when they're all bunched up especially if talking specifically to when you got twenty horses and you got eight coming around that turn together and you're sitting there going. All right is by if you have the starter they're gonna hold on. Its favourite gonna come back the stalker. I love that moment when they turned for home. That twenty seconds or so feels like a minute. Long in your heart is beating through your joyce. Yep it is in exhilarating. Feeling i you said. It's the top five feeling in sports. I couldn't disagree whatsoever if you have that ticket or if you own a horse you know. That's even better feeling. But that is just unmatched. It really is unmatched. How times you see a horse. Fade horse combat. Yup you you can sit there and say okay. We have the pace. You just don't know it's it's it's different than like basketball or football where you're sitting there going. Are you know you can kind of guess what blazer common it's complete crap shoot when you're talking about now. What is this on the graphic so the final turn is that is that what the final turn for home. It turned for home. Okay i've homestretch. Okay turn the turn. And that's the thing that's a fucking known thing. Turn for home. Every race has love that unless it's a sprint. But that's i mean that's overseas mostly to work some like they have won. They shot at arlington out here. And i don't even bother betting on because you're such a fucking crash. One hundred yard dash. You know i enjoy that i. It's it's so cool because it's like the minute and thirty seconds. He had before that no longer matters. Right it's just a small sample sizes like hey. This is everything it's set up for. Everyone says they love the last minute of the basketball game. They love the last drive over football action. That the bottom of the nines. That's this just and worse. Yep i like it. I like you re awesome pick. The only thing though is if you're out when the horse that's when nobody you sit there and you start doing the mental. The all right. We got a closer. He'll come back. Hit the board the board you start you pull out the pull out the fucking the ghost whip when you're watching it at the ot be on tv g or something star weapon. Come on come on. Come on three the turn for home. Good pick reeks allio. Your say i'm gonna. I'm gonna go with american pharaoh One of the reasons. I took this horse sore. I picked this. I is I sorta fall that horse out in california before he was huge That horse won. The derby was the favourite and then When i was there and then he went to the preakness again. We were there and then the belmont we were there and it was the you know. I've been a super bowls you know. What the patriots. But that day at belmont park where he won the triple crown. Never seen anything like that before my life. It was the time. I i believe the fans they were letting anybody in like they capped it after that year. The belmont i think there was like one hundred twenty five thousand people there And you literally couldn't move like when you left that place you couldn't move. It was like almost scary so many people but the crowd that day when when pharaoh one it will i never seen it. I'm getting chills now thinking about it so that that's probably one of my greatest moments in horse rates. He was two thousand fifteen ish correct. I think so. I think you're yes. Yep and there hadn't been a derby winner since nineteen seventy eight. I wanna say prior to him. Yeah there is a company. I to webs yeah and to a bunch of one the first write a ton of i two and broke the streak. Yeah yeah yes ethical. Pick i still remember like where i was. Watch the belmont with feral like i. I remember the bar in downtown cincinnati. I sat in the corner to watch that the entire bar like stole exploded. Yeah everybody was going fucking wild. That's it's an awesome. Pick that like that horse. I mean imagine breaking ted williams hit shriek record or cal. Ripken's games played record. Like that's what he did also say that the records never again broke. I mean that's true podcast different. That's true but i mean that's what he did. He broke a forty year. Winless streak of of triple crowns. I like it too. All you being there helps as well you now that doesn't help nearly as much as you fouling when it's out in fucking california like the independent band like going around the joe's on weed and in getting the ticket stubs when there's only four hundred people and you're just like you know what they'll durga stars is really good. That's unique like this horse. Looks great definitely. I mean was a horse. Was supposed to be good. But i'm not. I'm not taking claim it wasn't like it was some little trump horse like What was the year before. The five thousand dollars won the derby that warning two legs. I believe Smarty jones elk jones giacomo was Man california chrome twelve share california chrome. Yes now that was a nobody. But i mean yeah just to be. There obviously helps thirty. Go the good. Pick allio White sox dave. You're up so we've talked about it already throughout the so podcasts Carl drafted the kentucky derby. I'm taking the triple crown as a whole so this is in vienna. The award is championship in all of sports to win. Like i said like. I said we all kind of said There is a it. Was i got down here. Thirty seven year gap between triple crown winners. There's only been thirteen in history. They calling it the triple crown in their early thirties. But the kentucky derby and the three races were kind of hand in hand since eighteen. Seventy five that's one hundred. Almost one hundred fifty years only thirteen in history and a lot of them were pre nineteen hundred so like pre industrial revolution. That's how rare is to win the triple crown if you got that horse if like 'cause i i have a futures play on derby. If that horse wins the triple crown will be fucking rich man by the lake that just. It's so impossible to win all three lancs. 'cause all wigs because you got a mile and a quarter mile three sixteenth. Then you got a marathon. That's a mile and a fuck fucking half in that you see these horses just dying down the stretch because it's such a long race and a few of them you see them. They're winning by fifteen eighteen twenty lancs. It's absurd absurd. It's the hardest thing to do in sports. It's one of the coolest. I think things we doing in american sports because it's three separate championships to equal one championship. So to speak. It's it's it's just the best thing in horse racing. I think and their quick turnaround so the race yet. That's weeks two weeks. We trace like those horses bred to do that. You know most of them are running. You know every five six weeks not every two weeks and all the travel jet lag for the horses and everything. It is fucking hard to do. Do you appreciate the triple crown. More horse racing or baseball horse racing. One hundred percents racing horse racing triple crown of baseball. Like if you're hitting a bunch a homers your it should match up with your right like they kind of go hand in hand whereas dave's had immediately different links. Like a you can win and a mile and sixteen doesn't mean you're winning a mile and a half right. You got argument for baseball there. Carl now i'm just trying to i mean. Rbi's is also a product of what your team's doing around you got to have right guys on base like this is just you have dominate. It's completely individual and you have to do it at different different lengths of races. Which is like i don't know. Imagine winning a three-point contests from you know. Regular three point than half court then from the other felt. That's a bad analogy. I had a better analogy earlier. Yeah it's a broad range. You have to have a different skill. Set to accompany each challenge. So maybe it's a basketball player. Who can get to the rack. Hit the mid range and the three points jerry go. That's much better set much better said all right. Well it's a good pig. Actually i was. I thought that was a good first round pick. And i think we have some good first round pick so far ready definitely white sox dave winning the triple crown could pick so. I'm up two picks here in the five slot. I think you have good picks. I think you all have one thing though when. It's all shows the glamorous side of horses and horse betting i'm going to go the other side very prevalent side aside that i would say like most of us are probably most familiar with because we're not all mean elliott. Maybe different from you. These suites with dave and everything but to me. It's all about this and it's all about. Am i pick will be is the creatures of the ot be. That's a great pick pick. That's horseracing baby. Underbelly of society like ot bill joe's on we shoot us open through the entire pandemic because the only thing running and you go in there in the middle of the pandemic in there fucking getting their picks in there screaming at the fucking. Tv's they're in there and they're not fucking around so portnoy needed to take a shit when he was in here when we were room and i was like There's nowhere to ship here and like all the bathrooms are like. They're the bathrooms. Were crowded because there are so. Many people have chosen on weed. And i was like elders a bathroom next door and i'll guarantee you. Nobody's using it and he was like all right so we go through the side door over to the ot be that adjoins chosen weed. And i walk them into the public. Ot and no one was using it. You would've thought like someone dropped a fucking stick of dynamite into the bathroom. Glues place up the look on his face as he did the fucking the mister simpson walk in walk out. Gif abraham simpson. He's like what the fuck was nothing. Dave sorry ida friend's mom we're going to eight. Gb where i grew up in pennsylvania so we should go there a lot. I mean you wanna talk about an eye opening experience when you're like seventeen walking in there it's like you said the creatures of ot and it's it's it sounds great people watching out. It's amazing sad. It is sad but it's reality. It's reality that that's what that's what it is when you walk into her not be. You know what you're getting every single tongue a lot shorts. Yeah i just like to know what those guys are. Betting i wanna i literally wanna do a show. I just want to hang up. I wanna know how bet like do they bet like try factors win. What did they do because they're there every single day elliott. You know what they met. They've probably bet super this. I i don't know. I wanna talk to and i wanna find out. What do they vet. Because if you're there every day pretty impressive a really is man. It really isn't that just the creatures i had to take him in the first round. I thought that's a worthy. I good it it absolutely right. It's a massive part of the horse racing experience. You it really is. It's huge and i have a lot of love for because it's there All right so my next pick. I get a second pick This is another thing to me. That's so synonymous to horse racing and It it's definitely not the glamorous the bad side too but it's just nothing. Let's be thinking about the horse race. The that the race or the track more than just ripped up tickets tickets as far as i can fuck and see everywhere you go. There's ripped up tickets all respect to you know and it's and it's the only sport is still do it at to really because now and it's great donald barstool app. But you're still doing the paper at these tracks you know. There's and i know there is apps for horse racing and everything but the paper is. What's important so i gotta go download the hollywood races out there. You go very dead paper is. That's an interesting paper. I wonder who makes that paper. Because it's a it's like shiny and recycled paper film paper out perfectly those cute little squares. Although you can't those aren't good wallet. It's not good wallpaper. Like i wish they printed out in manner that could be folded once in like perfectly fit into your wallet like would if you fold it once and it turns into the size of like a credit card that would be. That'd be nice. That's only gripe on those papers you're right especially in like a pig race if you're a stakes race or big day racing. The in feel is just it. Looks like snow. When when you leak to honor honor percent you just see him blowing in the wind all over the place every table. it's like hey. Should i call tonight. Clear the the waitress comes up to clear the drinks or the losers up. I you know they're everywhere over. Flooded your table so Ripped up tickets definitely part of these part of the experience and you know sadly we all have ripped up tickets too much. so that's my pick Ripped up tickets. Yeah that's a good like that one day. I like it pacific horsera- it's it this. It's nice white. Sox dave up so i am taking something that i haven't quite experienced put. It's on my bucket list. One thousand times out of thousand. I'm taking the infield party whether it's at the preakness derby wherever the infield part so you see on tv when you're watching the derby or any leg of the triple crown. All these people in like nice ass fucking suits the floppy hats and sundresses high society. You get to the infield and it's like frat party. I don't know if you guys have ever seen the video or not. But they have the the toilet rauner the urinal or the porta potty run at the preakness and people waiting in line. They have their cans of beer. You get on top the porta potties. And you just run down them and it's a line of like fifty porta potties. And people are chuck full beers at you trying to just felt right in the face. Knock you off that thing. It looks like he's zoo. It's my people. It's a bunch of shorts. it's white trash. I think the derby infield parties only twenty bucks a ticket. If i'm not it's it was fifty fifty two the dildos shift. Okay so i'm mad right now because my pick was going to be the porta potty run at pre us and then i absolutely have to i wanna be on the preakness. Puerto pii getting beers. I try to. I did the preakness derby infield and how how crazy is it. There i was talking about it for the derby because it always rains on at the derby. I literally went and bought like a fifteen dollar pair of sneakers. I wore sweat short yet. A free gatorade t-shirt just knowing you're throwing them away and then it was when you bring your own alcohol into the infield so you didn't even have to go buy stuff. We just packed. I mean we had trouble carrying coolers. We took a take a shuttle bus train and the bus to the shuttle. And it's like you said it's your on high alert because you don't know when a full canopy are coming your way drunk. Are those crowds. I mean on a scale. It's say it's like the top ten jonkers. I've probably been on a pizza scale. It's like eight six. Is you and i have to do this. Said you will. I'll go with you dave. I wanna do it again. Like it's not gonna happen this year but next year coming in especially since the world should be normal hopefully by then so come on in will make a event out of it l. Can you still do these things or now that you had a taste of the highlights like is it hard for you to go back to the infield definitely go back to the infield big guys like us don't always want to be in a suit shorts. Let's that's huge for me. I ellie with no hedge hat on just like bouncing around in the middle of every one thousand percent all right so the infield parties are picked up the infield party up our right great dictates out our europe again okay. I'm gonna go breeders cup. Great reason i liked the breeders cup one one of my top ex because i like to watch all year a different horses in the us out of the us earn their way in. There's like i don't maybe twenty races where you can earn your way in and i just like following that the whole year And you know trying to win your way in the then it's like you know everyone says it's super bowl of a horse racing and i think it is because you know it's i think. Every horse owner aims for for those races at the end of the year. I think that's pretty cool. How you basically have to play in your whole year around trying to get into those racers. Yeah you're a big breeders guy right. They all yet. It's it's my favorite year. That's the one with the briefcase of money right. Like you're that's the big game obviously the kentucky derby and the preakness belmont or big gambling days. But this is the number one game event in in the horse industry. Yes without a doubt because the thing is you. Can you can hand so basically you have to be in two days of racing so probably twenty five to twenty eight races if you're right two or three times of the twenty five twenty eight. You're gonna make money because very few favorites you can get a horse thirty. Two one that earned its way in and as probably won four or five racist throughout the year. So like i said you just gotta be right a couple of times and it makes her weekend kayce. Get around the subject. How many how. Many races will a horse in the breeders cup run a year. I needed it. Depends i would probably say by. Maybe six okay for the rediscover you. You could go up to maybe eight. But that's about those type of horses. You know those big big. You know big time as you're not running them it. They're in very select races. Okay no rigs. Big breeders cup guy said yeah absolutely. It's it's cooler. It goes at different tracks each year. It's not always at keeneland. It's not always. Yeah it's been a few times. Yeah you get the different lines. And they're all there simply. What twelve races a day. thirteen day. so you don't get all these massive racist. Whereas like the i like two to three races are kind of whatever races and you get a couple of steaks this one aired breeders cup x two days of like elliot said you hit one picks three. And you're you're more than set for the weekend You get you get horses coming out of nowhere. Obviously the breeders cup race itself is kind of like the all star game away where you can the best of the best going at each other And there's always always a horse that comes out of nowhere. What's the you mentioned. The forty five one. There was a thirty two one. It was the basketball horse that won at breeders cup and one of the smaller races that ended up. Why can't think of it was like two years ago. Paid out a ton of money an end up like running into in the triple crown at sop. But you get horse like that when they come out of nowhere breeders cup race and then then you just follow them for the rest of their career absolutely and one of the things about with betting with me because my number one thing is. I'm a better before anything. And i tried to kind of a weird thing i do. I try to stay away from the names. Because if i have some type of attachment with the name i don't even want to have that in my brain. Yeah and i'm trying to before. So i'm i'm pretty terrible with names. People are saying. Oh remember this. And i'm a really bad because i really good looking at video and informed because again you know if it had my daughter's name in it or for that know who were named there are up for me. That's that's a good explanation. I love the thought of you. Exit breaking down taped. You're gonna got gotta check the take breeders cup off. The board rigs are up again. Elliott just said the perfect segue taking horse needs it is it is august. One of the most one of the most important questions asked what you name about. What do you name your horse. i wrote it. I wrote a blog last week. There was a horse named sexy pork. Chop like come on. That's one of the greatest. How do you take a sexy pork. Chop run in in her debut and he said all right. What are you gonna in your horse. And i was sitting there trying to think of what i would actually my. It's tougher tougher than what you think. And be like allio said. If you're building a bed you you get stuck with. I gotta take horse like like nick's go is popular horse. I have to take that as knicks fan every single time you racists It's a court. Vision is another one like it just you. There's a horse name that sticks out you remember it. There are people. I grew up on the track with like my my parents and my mother was strictly a horse. Horse made better. She look at it gray horses and eight. That was her her picks every time. So horse named like it's it's it's important. It's it's part of the part of whatever knows horse racing to everyone remembers the weird names. it's perfect segue. What my pixel. There's a horse that's been running. It's been down in. Florida like tampa downs and i stumbled upon this about a year ago right at the start a corn last year named chief white sox so i showed it to chief and we would bet in. This is just a runner. This horse fucking stinks. It is such a bad horse. But i bet that horse every single time. He's running every single. Time is running he He's got thirty. Six career starts and he's hit the board eight times with three first place finishes sixty eight thousand and career earnings. This or sucks. He's not good but better every single time because he's got an awesome name. The awesome name and the announcer hits it to right. 'cause of course announced like the horse track announcer. They had that special kind of voice where it's only made for the track and that's what they play on tv and when you hear them say like chief white sox and it's the right way it just you get that little butterfly do when when they're there is nothing off limits i actually. I think it's twenty two characters is you're allowed to have for a horse racing name or a horse name. I think that's the exact number. I could be mistaken. It's like twenty to twenty four whatever but you can name it anything you want. Nothing's bounce and that's it's fun. It's just a fun part of the sport. We we named our horse in college. My friends bought a horse. And we all like paid a certain amount to have share and it was oh seven so boy was big so we named him kentucky soldier. Yeah there you go. I wish there was a way there. I'm sure there's a study somewhere to quantify how much money has swung towards the house because people just bet on me. Yeah it's gotta be a lot a ton there's a really good horse that was running out of chicago He was a south side. Horse actually His name was pizza. Boy and that horse he was actually very very good horse. But ordinaries source. He loved that he why exactly because his name's pizza boy and that's it even though that horse was good so you should have been betting him he was. Yeah he was a monster. I it he was like a shit breed he was kinda like seabiscuit story. A little bit. That horse shit breed like wasn't supposed to do she didn't became like a huge huge earner. That's a great pick rigs four snaps. Carl you're up ago. I'm last picking the second round. Might take a photo finish. I love a photo finish at specific to horse racing. You know you're not. I guess maybe basketball sometimes they do leg. Photo-finish goes in off all my board but like just the photo finishes great hanging up. Get it framed. Guys won a big race on a photo finish You know if you lose it on photofinish. I'm sure that sucks too but just like in having the camera there. And who's the guy who operates the cameras at automatic before it was automatic. Did you have to take. It was a big deal. If somebody forgot to take the photofinishing like how much scandal in history is there behind devolution of good photo-finish technology probably a lot. It's plus you have like the saying photo-finish we use it in everything to translate towards rates. Yeah it's like like a barn burner a photo finish like there's certain words that just always fit. Yeah and that right the feeling of like that moment where you know. It's a photo finish. And you're waiting to actually see the picture like again your heart drops for that half and then the the the the crowd the reaction to win the felt finish showed is awesome. Dawson is good. Pick by next pick is way. I'm not an expert. But i love this fucking guy. You see this guy. And you're like oh kentucky derby like i see this guy i'm like preakness see bob battle. I'm watching horse racing. The fact that i know who baffert is is a testament to how big this fucking guy is. He is the ultimate horse trainer to me too. Slick fuck in white hair. The fall had the pink ties with three. They'll fuck in. He looks regardless of our horse reforms. He belongs in the winter circle in every fucking year at the kentucky derby when they're going through the favorites and they're like this horse here. It's been running really well. And he's he's trained with bob baffert like they just always tabatha and he's just always there before the race taken bob baffert a great one. Yeah that should have been a first round pick. I think allie. Oh you don't like this guy costs you money. Well listen. i'll tell you. A story about baffert baffert is obviously one of the best trainers if not the best by far. But he's terrible gambling. He's a terrible. He gives you d like he's given us picks and we're just like and he's known for. He's known to give not good pick now whether he's doing that on purpose or not. I don't know but it's pretty funny. His horses on the best by far but he can't make a winner so he's just like us i feel like he's just he no. He scrutinize pegasus. I think it was last here. Two years ago. I was gonna fall for that again. Dave like they. I remember that day was. He still does the first ever hosted with them. And we all in and like davis bob baffert like i had a winner and i changed the last second because baffert and he was like. You could see the look on dave's face he was like bob. Effort bobby scrutiny. He was really upset. So that's a good pick island. I'm doing okay draft. But like i'm not making these the confidence you guys are but i'm trying to hang around with you guys. Hey let's say quick break you're ever on. We gotta talk about roman. We gotta do it. You know it's common. Stop talking about your picks tomorrow. It's not gonna work when you're in bad right okay tonight. Big friday night. Big saturday. you're not going to be thinking about you. Know american pharaoh everything maybe you should be thinking about roman approval maybe because maybe roman approval old school horse. That's a back though. Remind you of roman swipes because it is debased. Best way to last longer in bed they're clinically proven bed in fact are effective easy to use and they're fast acting in. They don't require prescription. They shipped you discreet unmarked packaging and he's swipe packet a small enough the high near wall for never need it super easy to use his. Take the swipe out of the packet. Swipe it on dry. 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Is you know exactly what i'm talking about there. The best they. Are you only horse racing. You can't walk into a bar sportsbook and be like the all. Have the pistons need a win. This tonight why greektown. It's it's only horse racing and the the it's the schmoozing with them to you. Start you start shooting the shit with him or her that you get to know you little bit. They tell you what what her to go. Put your bed in with. That's the it's assess- ity horse racing. It's the last. I mean it's the last event you go to were you gotta by the program right. Got to have a program and the same guy standing there and if you pay cash and if it's like two seventy five he's got a stack of quarters he just shoves you on you know with the thumb always appreciate then Program guys trustworthy relationship in there too. I would say a very trustworthy relationship. Because they're giving you all that information. I like buying the pencil to from the guy. That's ice and sharpen them in baseball. Still have the program but the relationship you have with the baseball program guys. Like maybe i'll try and keep score today for the first two innings or so. It's st louis transactional. This is way different. This is this. Is somebody a trust you look at you build a relationship with over time. You hope to see them. I would imagine in college going keeneland three times a week. Four times a week. You've got to know like back and forth. I would walk in. And carl the other guy. Look maybe like. Hey bobby and crew like what's going on. How's how's classes while we're not obviously because we're here but it's it's it's not transactional despite money going back and forth you like the program guy. Elia yeah i do well. We had an issue so when we were young we would hop would go to this. Be actually it was a dog track and where we could bet horses But my buddy walked in And he's like. Can i buy a pen. And the guy said what about admission and we just assumed of course you want to get in. We don't want just the pen. So is a big back and forth with with the with the guy saying you wanted mission and of course we wanted we wanted to mission but kept saying then i so. There's some trouble between us in that guy. Yeah so it's a fine line. You gotta toe. Yeah and he's just got to support the industry so you support it by by the program. Every time you you were thinking mission would be a part of you know the pen ordering depend. But i guess it wasn't there different. Change up there. All right elliot. Oh you're up. I'm up Sort of a same lines. I thought of nicknames so we used to always go to this you know little dog track than we're young like eighteen and we had all these nicknames. The guys that used to go every day or every day that we were there was called bifocals. I think he wore two sets of glasses yet him on his head at both times one of the guys names was the missing link us the jump around all the time so we used to call the missing link. There was one willie guy had war patch. Then there was a guy called fingers. You only two fingers. Also i think the admission guy would call wharton knows obviously because of the growth on his nose and then the last nickname we had was confetti. Confetti was because a rip is tickets up and throw them in the rip the book up and throw it in the book but the greatest part of the program book is used to always try to push it together. Like pasted together. So we'd have to look. That was the best part for us watching him like put the book back together after he ripped it up like ten times so i guess how would we characterize this. What would like the people that work there like the workers track where they weren't they weren't even workers. I think they were more customers. There was just the every day track goers i would say that that or nickname dr need and ed's pick here. Yeah you're getting really close to creatures of though that's what you're right. I'm guest so can do talk. I'm gonna put my hand up. I've seen he described creatures though. T t. I'm going to veto alley any other vetoes call really. Yeah i'll because it's a little bit of my pick a little bit of your pick. Allio your feet. Oh you can't confetti and worked knows. I feel bad from but they're gonna have to slow the they're no good now. They're no good. We're gonna take another come up with something else all right so then. We'll i have to go to ted racing which was a syndicate started of ten years ago. Of course buying and it was. Todd elliott we only ended up getting one horse smoke show city. He did win for us. on a side note ida wedding in miami and Dave kept saying oh this is the horse is rounding first time. First of all took a six months to run the horse because he was always hurt family. Hyphen run oldest. The golden gate in san francisco. I had a wedding on saturday. In miami sought flew from boston. Miami the wedding from miami. I took a red eye of san fran and watch the horse common sec. So ted racing ended almost about two months later it had to do more with the wives or ex wives. But we'll say that in a different time. Ted raising never never existed after that todd alley on roaming approval part racing. No dave's little side piece. That horse one me a lot of money for those are. The horse was fucking awesome. Yeah well as it never quit either or it would run is yeah. He just didn't stop. He was like fucking forrest gump. Tat racing is defunct. I guess. I mean we've only had one horse. I'm trying to bring it back during the dead. Just communication between the. We're talk to owners are. It's hard to get them in the same room. That's right for you. So you mcshea so todd. Allio dave okay. Yeah i can contact with david stuff. I never knew a knocking contact at this. Dave i got. I got hundreds and hundreds of dollars to blow on horses right now. We swap days. Can we make a try. not kidding. i'm in. I swear if you can't get if you can't get todd we'll go bed and i'll jump in there you go there you go bed race. It's good to have in there though. Because he can all on bass true. That is true. Ten only pay any win. Ted racing off the board white sox david okay so i think this one is going to be calm in in this room as a whole so. I'm going to go with acting like you know how to read the program. And i do. I do enough to so i can handicap horse enough. You guys. I'm sure there are way way better at the me but if i'm going to track with my friends who don't know fucking thing about horse racing. They get that program and they're circling shit. I'm like dude you might as well be reading. Fuck in chinese or or swat. Helier something you don't know what the fuck you're looking at. Why even bother like. What are you doing and it. Everybody does it though as soon as you get to that track no matter how small or little or al massive. You follow horse racing. You're an expert as soon as you get that program in your hands to get paid this circle of them being like well he finished. I the last time. He raced at extract. And it's like do that. You are just mumbling words. Yeah exactly yeah you just you look for anything like if you could figure out something that you could pitch to yourself. That could make sense. You're on it. Even if that makes sense like bathroom baffert. Sorry this is what we're taking. Yeah if you can make it make sense okay. It's to me i'm gonna go. Tv something about tv g. When it's on it feels really old school and and listen. I'm sure they're great job. But i'm cutting to all these random tracks. It always like complete shit but for some reason shit like i enjoy that i. It's like i remember. I went to you know if you like a pizza place. They got tv. John like i instantly will bump it up a little bit because it's just there's like a feel about it now. I got a huge issue at tv g and correct me. If i'm wrong elian it's owned by churchill downs correct i believe so yes churchill. Downs the biggest cock sucker in fucking horse racing. I hate churchill. Downs near the reason that arlington's about to shut down can't put another track. There won't allow it for like like non compete reasons. I hate those mother fuckers and they never show arlington g. Which is where i have a couple of my horses so i want to watch him. If i'm not going to be at the race watch on tv. I can't do it a lot of times. I fucking hate tv. Gee i actually. I don't know if their church churchill had a problem with them last year where they all their rates were on mike. F s one ref us to But who's you can go to if you go to a eddie's right if you go to a restaurant or bar and one of the flight five. Tv's in the area. Have on horse racing. you know. you're good spot. Yeah that's a body experience like if you see it on the new look around and you look for the guy who's watching it and you can instantly bond with that person. Yes see you. I see you giving a little side whether it's a waiter or the cook or whoever like you may be a seat closer to them at the bar than the end of the end of the bar. Yes i recall yeah tv gee just i'm telling some of those just shitty track videos. I really enjoy it. You know what. I think like either threat and we maybe about them. I think i don't know who won't stand do but i'm pretty short fan. Doo-wop bought tv g. That could be against my case. Could give me in trouble but who knows. Tv's by pick all right. So i need one more. Bobby brought up earlier. It wasn't my board. I'm not just saying this. Because he said it. But i loved the track announcer so i gotta take the track announcer the way he says everything and he's just started a rated like everyone. You know all these high profile announcers from all these other sports but the track announcer does not get near enough love in my eyes. There like The local baseball radio because they only call the one track right like one guy caitlyn one guy. Churchill guy guide sent it so you know when you hear that voice. You don't even need look at the tv you know what's what tracks run yup thousand percent and they read like auctioneer. Yup yeah down the stretch. Talk tracks the announcers. It's shitty tracks. The bus they have no idea what's going on how it's post time. That's just doing post two minutes. Great grey words. So track announcers my pick White sox able kick it back to you. I'm going with. We talked about this too and this was on my list. I want to go to different ways. I'm gonna go with screaming at the tv when you got a horse coming down the stretch and if you're watching it and not be you get that you roll up that fucking program and use that as a whip or if you don't have one close by just use the us the ghost whip and you come on to come onto your screaming at the tv laws you can and that moment in that moment. Only you're allowed to yell the most obscene profane things at the top of your lungs. And no one's gonna say a award deal is and then you know ninety nine percent of the time you're losing that mother fucking pig and you just you're screaming at the tv on like fucking sporting event or sporting sport. In general you're screaming at set it's loud. It is loud. Go hold tire homestretch. Yellen the number hold on to hold onto. It is whatever center like maybe picked the horse because this guy your daughter's name or whatever but as soon as that fucking race starts you're just come on come on six. Look out here boy dave. That's a good pick. Its unique unique screaming at the tv. It's not screaming at because the white sox you know maybe there was a blown save opportunity something or a home run. No you're yelling for a thirty second straight home run. You're gonna be a call book. Yeah and then. You're done so long yell it's a long long yell screaming off the tv off the board elliott back to you back to me. Okay so i'm going to go with. My wife is from pittsburgh and her parents still live there so she likes to go visit them alive and takes all the kids so i'm home alone. That means like saturday. If i don't have to work what i'll do is play racing all day and and my pick right now is called the tv g. e. quarters which is the last race thing at the at the end of the day so basically if i generate having all day it is debased and you know what there's actual money battle to racing you know syndicates. They don't have any money but maybe they put some money into the quarter now. Do i love the racing. Do i can't very well. No but it's on at like ten o'clock at night. It's the band and is the racist ten seconds long but again you know i can. Nobody's in my house. I can bet the board and enjoy myself. Sober for quarters. Used to be last and anaka but he's sick. Los alimentos los angeles los angeles right right at the start of the pandemic last year. I was looking forward to every single friday night just so i could sit in front of tv. Jean better quarters is it is such a trash. Those horses stink. It's impossible to handicapped. I actually hit a pick five on one of them and they read my name because i tweeted atom on like twenty minutes after i hit the pick five last summer spring or whatever it was it but it's degenerate have in. It's so much fun there. It's betting occurs is exhilarating it. Strictly name bores y'all hundred percent a hundred percent. Strictly named biz a kid who's a fan of arsenal one of the key. The announces that does borders so he. He's usually at these races. That were at but he. He's who's as first name but he does the night quarters and so he's always touching this own specs but everybody's like three two in those every single. Yeah it's impossible. It's an it's impossible to handicap those horses pumped one hundred fifty grand into the pick four early in the late. Pick or so you can. You can make some you. Can you can play it a little bit. Those two those two things. We hit a pick four or pick five. Pick four five off last spring with eta quarters and we split up like a forty five hundred pot. Yeah you can yourself all right. Betting the quarters off the board gamble responsibly. Everybody i just want to note that gamble within your means. Don't lose anything you can afford to lose. it's not a profession rigs are up again. There's a couple of different ways. I want to go here. I think i gotta take it. I'm a little surprised known mentioned the yet. It is track outs. There's obviously you picture derby with the big hats and dresses. Keeneland like keeneland. If you're not wearing a suit you're at a place all the girls. I mean if davis horny jail. Throw in their sundresses at keeneland. i liked. that's happened saratoga. Everywhere is like you know a nice spot up and everything like that going to. It's going to an event and you need the outfit. There's a reason why. Nbc hires people to do like foward. Somebody like fashion analysts this year. For the It's talked about at every every race and at the same time you get the people that walk in with like cutoff shirt and homemade cutoff shorts and you need the track outfit. You have your go-to track outset. It depends on the about. You have your go to. it's it's again. I think it's different than other. Sporting event air. You're typically wearing to jersey or just a team t shirt your dress for the occasion. I'll take track out. That's that's what i was between with Acting like you know how to read the program. That's exactly what i was reading the track outfits could've been a first round pick for sure like floppy had you don't see that anywhere else. Synonymous with horse race. That's great in the fourth round and read those sundresses. Dave mike sundresses i of raw shot. Dress sundresses oh yes they do it. It's it's a. It's a top. One sunday the sundress day's top one day. Great pick rakes. Just you bear very part of horse racing outfits Carl you're up. Got two picks out near draft. All right I know how to do this. But i'll just i don. I like a long shot long shots. And i like the fact that i don't know if i want to say it's like hitting along chatter. You're getting along shot. But what's really unique to me about. Horse racing is like just the cheer fucking odds that we're talking about because in baseball. If you want to bet like a big long shot in baseball is to one all you want to hit huge odds in the core sports there on futures to win a championship and even then the nba. You're never going to get a good night in the nba. The really it's like the. Nhl's is the nhl may be major league baseball on some fucking years. Right like you nbc. Beating virginia was like eleven to one or sixteen. Exactly like sixty one you can go to track and like just splash the pot on like i like ninety one. Eighteen to one on this one six. Guess what twenty minutes later you got another shot at so there's something just about like there's no better representation of a long shot in sports than horse racing betting a long shot yet long shot. I like taking the longshot logo one because you also do the mental. All right if this comes in. I'll gonna win this amount of money and you start doing mental math. Your life you are. It's it's not the slow death like if you bet along shot in one of the courts sports. You're you have a minute and a half or you. Just you're alive for a minute ass. Yeah anything and then the last paycheck. Mr relevant and i mean this in all material respects without disrespect. I'm taking jockeys a the breed of species because isn't it like like jockeys have sex with jockeys and like they're just like they're only community of people and use like like am i wrong. Most jockeys are like one hundred. Twenty pounds tops. So you're not having sex with anybody bigger than you. Because if you want your kid to be. Jackie the aussie small. I should note. I'm having a jockey on the show later. This week was very interesting. Yes there's a weight limit. He said like basically one ten. You gotta stay on her one ton that's crazy on He's from chicago chris. Amy chris. what. Chris amy okay. I mean of all the professions within the horse racing industry. There's just something about like. None of it works unless we have like one hundred one hundred and ten pound guy to commandeer this animal american farrell. Think about how much time and money effort when trained this horse guy get the right jockey for it. They don't get off colonel either and like could you one famous jog. I couldn't even name. I can't even describe a famous jockey to. I'm just like it. Sucks for those guys to. There's no opportunity be an individual too tough life but horse racing and jockeys go cannon handwrite. I was fascinated by the interview. It was comedy you ask now brother. I can draft about jockeys. Because what i wanna do is give jockey some representation here but like am i just taking jockeys and might take spare vicky. Just yes and that's what i had. Okay these guys like even though they're small in stature fucking great athletes like they're their lung capacities absurd. their core strength is absurd what they're lecturing about a videotape. The fight of what was it. Iran and and whoever down in four zero parco like go didn't even get up and fight. I'm surprised ryan assault. Took it so they have the stamina to ride a horse. Vega pissed like they get this at at each other fifteen hundred pound animals on the india joining. You can get killed. Yeah i heard that vicious in there but got to be jockeys off the board rigs. You're up all right. i'm gonna go with Track specific specialty food and drink some talking specifically like keelan burgu. That is the best stadium food in america. The mitchell up at i retract has a specific food and drink option that i think racing does a little bit better than every other sport so track food and beverages which you're taking yet but you it specifically keeneland burgo you could do you wanna kaelin burgio. Y'all take lindbergh wrote because it is the best in the in the health even spell burke b. u. r. g. o. It's like a still okay keeneland burgu. I can't comment I can't allio. You're keen lindbergh goo. Yeah you know we actually Introduced us that was And the the kentucky quarterback passed away the lorenzen laurent chair lorenzen. Yeah so so. What a good guy to. What am i sky. That kid was but anyway like ten years ago. We were at one of the breeders cups in in lexington and it was like twenty degrees and burger. That's like that super. Yeah chili stew. Yeah yeah he drought over a bunch of we paul and they were all so now every time we go. We have to get it. You can get an order to your house now chemo. Nearly sell it like to where you on and it is i. I was at keelan For rough and rowdy couple years ago there were big david big cat wants wants to eat and entire suburbia for an entire. It is it. Is that good And you can only get it you know akilah or kilns. Only one that it now It's a kentucky fan but killed made a famous but it is yeah. It's especially that you can only get at the track interesting key number. Go off the board. Our ellie your last pick on so my last pick. I'm gonna just say my happy place I drive two hours and twenty minutes to saratoga. And now since dave basically bought light shifty boxes all the stuff i can go down to saratoga. Use his box. There's nobody there and Be able to gamble the day. it's just i mean saratoga. There's no place like it and for it to be so close to us. It's called the stair toga stretch. I think that's the me move for a little spot. He bought or barstools. But but again you know with the Holds like twenty five people. But there's no one ever goes 'cause dave offer himself and So i i think that's my happy place at saratoga stretch. I regret taking burger winston liquor. That's your happy place. It's your you can get some me time. Not have any kids or wiser. Portnoy or eddies running around. It's just like it's just bliss in serene my dad. My dad's gone to most tracks in the country most big tracks and he says that like every time he goes to saratoga like this is best track in the country and every time he goes a keeneland he's like this is the and he likes because those courses are just so beautiful right. It's true the only thing again with keeneland definitely take it right you know. Be close to talk about the weather. The weathering in lexington is you'll get good days of course but it re my brother-in-law lives in elections. And they said it's it per capita. It rains more there than seattle really. It's yeah it's like we never. We never get snow there. It's it's always just like a lot of cold rain and then came only runs april october april and october. And like this meat. Like there's been a lot of rain. I feel like a yeah lying that that i mean i don't want you know when you get the time off for somebody who works in you know has a family you want to spend two or three days. I don't wanna be in the rain. I just don't wanna be in the yeah getting. What's the worst anti renders. Nothing worse than getting what. I hate getting what. They're i regretted. Togas hot. I mean you can take that for sure saratoga off the board white sox dave. You're up so this one is Actually serious for me. I'm going with match races. There's nothing like it in sports. And they don't really. They don't happen often if ever anymore in horse racing and this is an opportunity for me to challenge cross-border your horse leo to a match race against smoking j you name the time and place. I cross borders at turf runner. We just moved jada the turf. I want smoking jay and cross-border in a match race. We can do it at the penn. Racine out in like eastern pa. 'cause i know they got rid of cena. What is it meadows. we can do it there. Sell out the entire fucking stadium. And i wanna match race with cross-border naming time. Let me ask you a question. Was that a horse that you just gave me like a month ago. Was at the horse shoe problem. Well i mean. I would definitely take that that but i thought the horse ran pretty well. He got squeezed inside but that was his first time on earth. That was that was his first race on turf. Yes he's running. On friday at arlington or next friday at arlington. That would be a bad for you. That'd be a real that. I want to name the time and place. You know i know but it's no advantage for cross-border to run against a horse like that. It would be no. There's no upside for him. He's so you're scared is what you're saying. No i'm just saying that the upside it's so we win. Were supposed to win one hundred times out of one hundred if we lose were laughing stock. So there's what would be the reason. I mean you put. Yeah well that's a different story. But if someone's going up the person than we figure out a way to get a nice fat purse winner-take-all sell out an entire fucking stadium and i won't cross-border match race. No i i love. I love your idea as far as Mattresses i think that's great i would. I would imagine you're horse would need to win a couple races to actually run against. He's a few races on turf. No he's only had the one race on turf then when he wrote winds two races on turf and yes. Okay deal deal friday. He's run fry. Earn a week from friday on turf and he's better what is it. What is he running in He just ran Yesterday he like forty seven and a half on Hold on i'll pull it up. No i'm saying what what races he entered in what kind of rate i have to look. Just that was a stakes race. He was in for one hundred grand. Got look up to. I'll figure racy ran. Yeah and i liked him. I thought he got stuck in the inside. And whatever all right match races off the board my pick by last pick last. Pick the final. The whole draft It's mr relevant between two right now. I've been having a pretty trashy draft song to stick with the trashy draft. And like i said i. We might not be the biggest harness racing fans here but to me. There's something about the limo limo gate. Yeah that has always made me laugh. Especially because it's like seen as big perk. It's i don't even notice call rises what you call the night game. I have no idea. What the official title. I don't know specifically is funny. Yeah i like to pay out. Goodness earl reminds me of maywood park. It's my fucking. I loved maywood so many fond memories. There i've really had Just seeing that limo just in lino the limo just pilot. It's probably to what's running on fucking fumes like it's is exhausted. The horses four hundred thousand miles on a little weird. That's a that's a home. Run fucking really good. That's a great mr relevant good. You got the rust around like the wheel. Well can we talk to panic and we drive this thing at one of the big. We could probably pull that off. I'm sure there's there's a pen. Harnish track in dayton ohio. Not far from where i live. I will have everybody over and we can just up sipi unbelievable so limo games my pit. I love it. That's a really all right. So here's the draft rundown real quick that will do some matches get outta here Carl the kentucky derby photo-finish. Bob baffert betting along shot jockeys rigs to turned for home. Horse names the program guy track outfits keeneland burgu eleo american pharaoh breeders cup ted racing betting the quarter saratoga white sox dave winning the triple crown. The infield party pretending like you know how to read the program screaming at the tv and match races eddie creatures of the ot be ripped up tickets tv g track announcer limo gate Anybody else anyone's of that that they didn't get ahead bugler the call for the gate. Yeah the bugler The one aren't in like ten years ago sound horn alarm maybe longer hunting. Bonnie braun and she was absolutely stunning. I love nice. Good does she. Maybe let's get. Horses was a good pick if i had the winner's circle on the winner's circle the rose. The rose necklace. Or the our fucking pageantry yet. I don think about it like all championships like they don't really have a cool thing. Olympics has a cool thing they got the podium round the winter circles right behind it. All right what. They just put the nba champions at a makeshift stage. Who cares about easy. Ones just horses. An easy one for me was just a beautiful fucking animal. I mean what. A beautiful gorgeous sturgis game fucking beautiful animals absolutely pageant and just their ability just wrong for so long and they're so muscular gorgeous alley. What made you fall in love with horse racing. Was it the animal was it. The was it winning. Money was the excitement with your buddies. i think i i with the bedding but then as soon as i saw the animals up close and i was hooked. Totally totally cool moment is when they sing. What does it all all my old mild kentucky. Oh that's pretty cool. That is that'll bring a tear to people from kentucky. You'll see them cry out when that goes on I wish i just keeneland instead of keelan. Burgo good candidates like it's my favorite track in america. Love it. it's like you said sarah that's all I have wanting to murder a kiosk. Great kiosks to gaping just wanna murder. You gotta get one minute to post. You won't fuck and take it up for you hit the wrong. You might have five and you hit six accident. Yup what about what. I was gonna say once i learned that like what do you mean. I have all sides of this. If you just hit the box days the the law you said boxing bats. I thought you meant like there's usually an awesome fight on derby always the entire day just nonstop entertainment. Your with the boys. You got to grow goings worst bar day of the year. You don't step foot in a bar. He just you're going to get tickets or some combo. Yes you're on the big days they start usually like ten am We usually go date. You know we usually go. And we're the only one i'm telling you there's probably only about ten five percent of the people that go to like for instance the derby when we go this weekend. The oaks will go. We go to the first weeks every go from start to finish every time and the first to the races. It's completely empty. And i just i love. I love those first two or three races. There's nobody there and they're still pretty big races. That's where you get with the program guy in the the the the beller The other two. I had secretariat and I didn't know how if i could take this. It was kind of similar like eddies creatures but the reaction videos that we always get on twitter where it's You know the guy sitting there like you said the move the specific horse betting like better sayings that one and then when you win your first back like that feeling of. I still like whether you're at a house. Whatever the i bet you hit on a big race you always remember that worsening fisher all right. I think that it if anyone has any more. No yeah there you go Enjoy the derby. Everybody enjoy horse racing season. Enjoy your summer That's different than everybody will be back tomorrow. We'll see then.

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Chris Aimone- from Electric Eyewear to Brain Sensing Headbands That Help You Meditate

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Chris Aimone- from Electric Eyewear to Brain Sensing Headbands That Help You Meditate

"Welcome to untangle the podcast premeditation studio, and now our partner muse, I'm Patricia carpets in this series. Bleed. Traduced you to real people with extrordinary stories at the experts who share how meditation and mindfulness practices changed. Our lives. Our podcast is brought to you by meditation studio apples pick as one of the ten best apps of the year and news, the amazing brain tenting headband that gives you real back on your meditation practice, you can download the meditation studio app in the app store, and we hope you'll check out muse at choose muse dot com. When you download meditation studio, you'll get over four hundred original and exclusive meditations by leading experts on everything from sleep stress and anxiety to happiness confidence and leadership and much much more to explore. And if you've got Alexa, ask her to play our eight free meditations just say Alexa, enable meditation studio today. Join us co-founder neuroscientist brainiac and untangle co host REO carton as she goes inside the head of her amazing guests. Thank you, Patricia. Hello, I'm Arielle. And in each of my episodes. I'm going to take you inside the head of someone skilled in the mental arts last episode. We heard from the amazing Mikey Siegel consciousness. Hacker who's using technology to help us learn meditation and dive deep inside ourselves by popular request. I've been encouraged to turn the microphone inwards and into one of the best technologists, I know who's been working for the past decade twos. Technology to help understand the workings of the mind, the brain and the body. He's my co-founder at muse, Chris, Amy and welcome Chris. Awesome. Can't wait to do. This. Chris prolific electrical engineer who trained Dr Steve man, Steve is widely known as the father of wearable computing together. Chris and Steve critic glasses with cameras and screens and wore them in the early nineties before Google glass was ever thought they've invented water-based musical instruments. He's when prizes for energy producing yoyos and Chris went onto found interacts on. And build what's probably the most consumer -cially successful brain computer, interface device out there. His also a deep thinker changing how we think about the brain and body during meditation and he's a new invention. He's gonna share today at the end of the episode. It's an honor to have him as a friend and partner in crime and to be able to spend time inside his head. You've created all sorts of amazing things in your lifetime. Some which I've had the luck to be a part of let's go back into your history. Can you start by describing some of your early inventions? It wasn't really until mid to late high school that has started making things. Made this video camera system where there was like. Skateboard wheels and built a track. So it could do these smooth panning video shots to analyze people's walking the gate analysis that was required for different kinds of therapy and research, and so I had someone asked me to do that this similar time. I made a system for doing strength testing based upon some old technology that was sort of got re revitalized with some new ideas and new tech. I remember building skateboard what ramps that was amazing. I can ride it. You know? So I remember some of your cool probably in your early robotics. We met in our early twenties. But in your early twenties, I remember you made a robot that could paint crawl up the wall and paint this way up and down. I think one reason why created that is I had had so many bizarre bits of machinery electronics old computers in my garage, my parent's garage at the time. And bro in Scarborough. And I had a friend who had decided to open up a temporary art gallery, and she's like could you make something cool and technological? But you know, can you make a piece of art that would come in here? And just like sure what what can I do that I can make use of all this junk and also had a whimsical nature to it. So it was I think it was the first totally useless thing ever made. Maybe it maybe it broke the ice in a lot of you know, crazy new stuff. It was like, it was totally useless. It used the printer from Commodore sixty four I think I took my rollerblades apart. And I bought windshield. Wiper Motors, a used computer mice as optical encoders. Bizarre stuff. But then I made this gangly kind of robotic arm that would hold a paintbrush and satisfying throw up against the wall. It would reach backwards and dip rush until bucket of paint. And then it would like stick it on this giant canvas. And then it start to move it around. My father was happy that it took his all propane tank away. I think it use it as a counterweight told us the right amount of water should mention this thing was like eight or nine feet high because it would go all the way up the wall. It was probably it was like it was eight feet high and probably twelve it was really big and it us four computers. So I think yeah us every. Last bit of junk, but I had kicking around, but it painted some really amazing stuff and had a camera that would continuously observe whatever was happening in the in the gallery in whoever came in just essentially paint. What it saw it painted, really slowly? So it was really hard to make sense of anything that painted. But yeah, the robot painters silly. See that to work with Steve man and really create some of the early Google glass type form factors time. Steve is calling it. I tap. Can you talk a little bit about that experience? Yeah. There's like ten to share. But that Steve's pretty incredible guy at say any would be inventor would learn so much from working with him. He's somebody who just has an unquenchable creative spirit. Just cannot stop creating new things, and he really inspires somebody to just go go for it, and build whatever you can build using whatever means you have. So I think in that experience. I in many ways learned the craft of being an inventor, and it just came from working with him the two of us. We did so much together. But really just you know, nothing would really ever hold us back from trying something. So we'd have an idea, and whatever we had available. We would just do it. And. And it's in that process that you really learn the value of creating something to allow yourself to see around the next corner. You believe that you can imagine what things will be like when you create it. But the reality is you can't and no matter how much you know, how much experience you have whenever you create something new when you get a chance to play with it experience it with yourself with other people like amazing, new discoveries happen. And I think that's the kind of thing that really helps you do the right things if you want to create something that truly has died others than you have to just get out there and try it and learns the process of doing he and I were together, and we built something that was very cool that he's still wear to this day. And in many ways, you mentioned what Google made what Google made a looks almost identical to what we made together at that time in nineteen ninety nine. I would look at photos of Google glass in twenty twelve on the first k. Out and what Steve built with you and the late nineties and literally side by side. They're almost identical. Pretty fascinating. Bitterly. Always early. Yeah. But that's that's where our relationship started. I wanna take you back to Steve's lab in two thousand two and two thousand three read this early brain computer interface system with a computer with an Icee card and a bunch of fiber optic cable. Let me started to create experiences around. It keeps house a little bit of that. Yeah. I mean, I I wish I could teleport people back to the science lab feel of all that Steve's lab even today has always been a really quirky and crazy place, but we got this data. And as you said came through a fiber optic cable. And we looked at the power spectrum of it by doing a F T on you square the result. And you look at the the aggregation over different brain bands. And we looked at the alpha band, which undergoes large changes with changing what you're seeing. And also your state of consciousness, and so I remember the first day, we got this thing working. There is people. They're taking turns at trying to push the signal upper now super cool experience. I think for me what was most fascinating about it. Looking back is for everybody involved, myself included. It was totally intuitive to. Try to change your state of consciousness as a means of affecting this output. And so everybody had a different way of doing the all had a different feeling inside of ourselves that we would tune into that was special to us. We knew it, and I'm sure it was different for every person. But for myself, I I tuned into this quiet weightless feeling it's this feeling. Maybe it's I'd feel it when I was about to go to sleep feel it when I was trying to imagine a prominent close my eyes, but I was was going into this state of consciousness that I had somehow found in cultivated over the years. So that was the first thing I tried. It was you know, achieving an ultra state of consciousness to understand explorer technology using. So I remember I slipped on an e probably on the back of my head. And I was in conversation with Steve in the lab. I can't remember who else was in the room. But I was staring at Steve's pants. There was somebody who'd come in like third party, maybe like newspaper porter something something kind of important, and I was sitting in the room with Steve in that guy. And I'm sitting on a table staring at Steve's pants and make you probably James had program the system so that as you focused on it ours. You changed your state? I don't remember what the threshold was it would go up and down in our Petiot. So. And as I stared at Steve's pants. They're Petr went up in the more. I stared like the louder the signal the the higher it went. And then I moved my eyes away. And then it went down, and I stared at Steve pants, and it went up and the guy who's in the room had no idea it was going on. He had no idea that there's a sound that was being controlled. It was my own private internal experience. And that was the first time I got it. And I was like, wow. The more I stare the more. I can change the system. Steve's black pants. The. Burned in the back of my head forever experience. Oh, that's cool. So what came next for you? So from there once we had that it was like, okay, let's try to play around with it. Now that I recognize I can have that control. What else? Can you do like what other sounds can reprogram in? Can we now make this sonorous in some way? I think it wasn't in our Pedder at that point. It was just a tone. Step two was can you make that interesting? Can you are educated is something that you can do that's going to then make something you'd want to control the world. That's interesting. I did not think about what I wanted to control. I was way more interested in what other states of consciousness, I could explore with it. Because it was very interesting to have something which recognized and inexperience that I was having in a way where I could make a measurement. And so it's like, wow, we can measure in some way different states of consciousness. I know they make me feel different. And I know that if already found value in my life being able to use them. So if I wanted to think about something I would enter another state of consciousness where that was a lot more fruitful or easier to do, and I never would've called it that at the time, I'm still hasn't it to call it now. But now there was something that measured. The fact that something was different about my brain. When I did that that's amazing. And for me, it became what can we create with this? If this is an interpretation of our mind or making visible of the mind, how can we then use it as a tool for creation with the mind? So that for me it turned into this artistic exploration. How can we listen to the sound of our mind, and they make beautiful music with our mind. Heck, and we, you know paint with our brain. How can we make art with it? And so because I was tied up with this notion of like perception in the brain, it was more of a sense of like, how can we perceive what's going on in our mind, and then project that in a way that's going to let somebody else have an experience of that mind, and what it can create interest like a sense of shared creation. Interesting and like transmission of creation. So if we fast forward to twenty fourteen we have mused that as a tool for meditation help, you discover the self into twenty eight teen tool that helps you to a whole new kind of by feedback that we're gonna talk about shortly. But it sort of feel like we wanna fill in the intervening gaps that got us there. From the crazy concert than steph's lab. Part of the concept at that point with you and Trevor, and I was data that we could literally move the world with our minds can control physical objects. And so we actually were able to not just take our own semitic experience. But like the experience of the objects in the world and connect yourselves to them and able to levitated the move them. We think created the levitating chair. Yeah. What comes to mind when I say levitating chair noisy. Winstrom? The hardware store on the ceiling as chairs magically rising to the sky. That's one of those things where like beautiful concept, and I was terribly frustrated with the manifestation of it because it was magical, totally magical. But inside that share it like it was a perfect Resonator for the sound of the wind that it was elected to. It was kind of a musical instrument. We should have called it. The musical levitating chair. Very Steve name. My hope Sunday, we'll be able to do that one Justice dreamers. So then we went onto dream bet. Something even sillier the Olympics. You can sit up to be silly. I that that was in terms of dreaming in terms of like having grand weird vision. That was kind of big yet. It's true realize how big it was when he thought about it those experiences that break down the inner bears you have about what's possible. Yes. We only those experiences. Like, let's let's reset here. You know? Why do I think something isn't possible? Is this something that I'm creating for myself, or you know? Is it really not possible? So that was that was one of those moments where I personally had a massive reset. I've just like, oh, it's really my own thought of what's possible that's holding me back here. And it was so cool to be able to do that together. And that project the anti kept getting higher and higher and higher. We've got to control the lights on the entire Canadian problems and Niagara Falls with people's brains from across the country in twenty ten and we propose this installation to the Canadian government at the time. And we said that we control the lights and some lighting leading in five rings. You know, looking like the the Olympic rings symbol, which of course is highly protected. We couldn't do that. And so the government kept coming back to us and saying, well, can you propose something else that we can do we had thoughts? Like, you know, we could make a big lake and have trees like we're in Moscow can have them go up and down with people's brains, and another one of ideas was have balloons, and you could inflate balloons with helium. And then write your thoughts floated some big sculpture. Scher? Do you? Remember, any other ideas? We imagined these massive spotlights. Yes. Canons of light. Yes. You can project your consciousness to address space, and you know, express the beat of your heart in these beams of light. Because at the time there was an artist who distanced Latian with holding onto either side of a late and actually having your heart be transmitted. So that would pulse with your heart. And so we had this idea that you could do the same thing with your brain, less, your heart. And then there was sort of this distant feeling that wouldn't it be great if we could control the lights on the tower, but it was as if nobody wanted to say it because it seemed like that couldn't be possible. And then finally John Beatty from the government came back to us and said what about the tower, and it was this moment that like the sky cracked up when you were like we could do that. And then more and more icons got piled on top of it. Well, if you do the tower than you have to do Niagara Falls and the buildings we were in the lighthouse in falls trying to hook up computers and things ancient lighting system. The raccoons the Iraq. Crawling ceiling. Or like up in the tower, and we had there was this is yet to go way up the tower into this room that actually had the feed from their lighting system. And I remember mounting an umbrella over our computer because they had a small leak stealing. So we had our our computer mounted in this place next to all these TV stations, and then this little umbrella. Something maybe the air conditioning or something, you know, but actually being underneath the tower. The first time that we actually connected everything together was just totally on Spiring magical. Yeah. And so from there, what did you think was possible glow is the next step for you from that? So after that experience, we went on a long journey of trying to figure out what we wanted to make all this and we recognize the huge power and potential for people. But understanding the way this should come to life you'll into an Olympics once and also it only sees seven thousand people, and this is the kind of experience that everyone should get to try. So we went through this long process of seeking. And we didn't always think we're gonna make our own headband. We thought we could create experiences and use things that aren't existed. So we went through a number of journeys one of them was should we? Actually, make a product of physical product. And that was another thing like the Olympics, which seemed undoable because of all the complexity involved, we knew how to make things I know how to make things but to make things that were one offs in cost, you know, huge amounts of money because they were custom pieces, and there was always somebody there to trouble shoot them. But to create something that everyone would have access to was like you have to get it made in China like how do you do that? Do you just go to China and like go and talk to somebody? So yeah, it was really interesting starting that whole process, and how you know in the sort of the misty unknown. It's really easy for the mind to go like, oh too hard like, I don't even know where to start but then little by little it unfolds. And you start to recognize I have the skills that are required. And we take the next step will figure out the next step. So, but I remember, you know, at that point. We were like there is nothing out there that a consumer can buy that allows them to do this that does that we need to do. And also that has the ease. That's required to be successful experience for someone who goes to best buy buy something and takes it home. And so we always had a hand held experience where we'd help people get suited up to measure their brainwaves tell them what was going on what to do. And we would provide that necessary. You know, middle piece of trying to do something as difficult as measuring. Brainwaves? And so that was the problem that we actually set out to solve with the creation of the muse initially was we really wanna create experiences people there's huge value here. But there's nothing that's available that really makes it accessible or not super weird. And so yeah, that was like a massive undertaking and along with that is what do you do with it? Because you don't just go and buy brain sensing had been 'cause you're interested. I mean, some people do, but if you want to really speak to many people than there has to be a lot more clarity nine everyone's a garage hacker that wants to like build stuff. So he went on another journey as well of trying to understand the right way of adding value to people's lives through this technology, and to me that was the deriving question. I think for all three of us you Trevor and myself like how do we actually add value to somebody's life with this? How is this going to move the needle for somebody has going to move the needle for humanity? How is this going to openness up to something? A new something possible has is going to be meaningful in that like driving question meaning caused us to create installation after installation after installation being like, what is the answer is so much crazy stuff. We did so much research. We read so much research. We had so many people help us along the way, you know, just building thing after thing searching for for what it was. And I remember it might have been you, Hugh, ask me this question. But it was it was sort of like, okay in all the places that we've been. You know, what is that thing that really provides the most value, and I remember racking, my brains and thinking, okay. This didn't work that didn't work that didn't work didn't work toaster. Didn't work. However, something about it kept me interested. And then I counted the years how many years have you been interested in this thing why? And I was like, you know, I wish I could package the journey. I wish we could just package this journey of looking inside yourself and relating to through this mirror of yourself. Because that's the piece that I always found value in whether it was trying to control a toaster or making music with your mind or trying to train a new mental skill each piece required to look inside look at this reflection. And learn about yourself and that was continuously rewarding at the time. I didn't know what meditation was, but this was like I wish we could package the journey of self discovery and exploration thing. But there was still for me. It was a bunch of time before we actually landed on like we're making a meditation tool because at the time, I didn't know meditation was, and it seemed like what I wanted to was super Esa Terek. And so I sort of quitting all different kinds of things that could help someone go on the journey for themselves. It was the it was the building the tool set to do this journey of exploration where you now had a companion. You could go seeking out in the dark and have those way points right back to the very beginning. I had this experience. But yeah, it wasn't until sometime later that we all experienced selves, I think for for different reasons meditation. We all started saying, maybe we should do something with meditation. And I remember distinctly when someone said, hey, maybe it was Trevor so we should do meditation. You know because he'd had a meditation practice. I was like, yeah, we can do that. We can this was like back to the my very first extremes. We can do alpha of neuro feedback, and we can help people, relax. This is like my thought of meditation understanding basic understanding meditation because my only understanding was I saw pictures of people meditating that was it. And then you've come a long way it's been a long journey since then many years, but then when we sort of turned our attention to we started inviting meditation teachers to come in. And that's when like the doors got blown right off for myself because I had some initial teaching, you know, some books recommended I started reading about it. I was just like, whoa. What? Why didn't anybody tell me that humanity working on this problem that I've been working on for my whole life as a technologist, really? But actually have done way more than I could possibly imagine. And so there's a bit of frustration of just like, I can't believe no one ever told me. But also of will, of course, we can do. This is exactly what we've been doing and makes complete sense. We're gonna take a little break now to give a shout out to this week's practical sponsor care day. Our monthly subscription vitamin service with personalized vitamins and supplements delivered to your door each month you start by taking their online quiz that asks you about your diet health goals and lifestyle choices to find out. Exactly what you need. 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It was news was the your perception of the world, and how you relate to your brain can shift, and that was like that to me is like the later a hall of meditation that your perception of your world, and therefore your perception of yourself can shift because you can interact with it, you can change it. Why think the magical thing that I saw with anybody who we've played this for so many years, right? We would invite all different kinds of people to try this out. Waves at parties in science labs museums. On the top of the mountain with a woman jumping up and down through the Jonah's. Seasoned meditative, mentally jumping just to be clear. Menton court those states be nice just like make a list of all the different ways in places that we went to experience, but the but the thing that always stood out for me was. When someone put this device on and they would get feedback from their mental state. They would immediately and intuitively try to shift their state of consciousness. So when you do that, suddenly, you you've just taken an entirely new point of reference on yourself. Which is like in meditation. You discover that you are not your thoughts. That's what that is to take that new perspective and say, what can I do to shift? My perception, how feeling this is the you are not your thoughts experience, and it happens instantly crazy, and now I look back and see how profound that was all the way along because we've now been in the creative process of trying to create a tool to help people discover themselves inner practice, but just to see that the instant someone put this on and got a feedback. That's what happened magical. We didn't realize we didn't realize we had no idea how magical it was. But it was just like, oh, this is cool. We can build some cool stuff with this. So once we realized it we're go from there. I got deep into meditation. The realization that humans have undertaken this exploration. A very serious way gave like an unbelievable amount to start to explore. I think with anything that we learn it's really hard to imagine what's possible. Because you're always starting from a place of what you know, which is very close in you can see over the over the next threshold just a little bit, right? But but ultimately like doing anything new is just as a totally unknown world out there. What happens when people devote themselves to training, different states of consciousness, different ways of experiencing different inner skills. I have no idea. And the only thing you can do is look to what people have achieved and to talk to people and to read accounts of things because I understood that for me to try to evaluate the possible from where I was. Was experienced from from where I was at that time. There was fundamentally limited like it's still limited right now. Who knows what's possible? All I know is this is how I feel right now. And I know that if I continue putting effort into learning something I'll change, but where does it go so became superintendent going down down that road understanding, both what seems to be Postle based upon what people say, but then also trying it for myself. What are some of the shifts that you've experienced meditation? Biggest shift for myself biggest shift and understanding was that when I'm emotionally triggered. I would do things to distract myself to disconnect from what's happening and the recognition that when you disconnect you stop receiving whatever that moment has to teach. You you end up doing things to make yourself feel safe and unafraid and that process, which is happening all the time as we go throughout our days, or at least as I go through. My days was keeping me from really taking in precious. New information and experiences because I was essentially blocking them, and this sort of thing can manifest badly relationship because you have an emotional reaction to something that's one possibility. Another way of looking at it is you are just not present to appreciate what's there because you've taken yourself away as a protective measure, so just be. Able to witness clearly this happening, and that there was something that I could do about it to be more present with what's happening and to continue my growth and learning like that was massively life changing. So how does this reflect back to what we were creating muse muse, first and foremost is all about being able to train your attention and to train your ability to pay attention on purpose through variety of different kinds of experiences. But the other thing that it does is to give you a number of starting points to become more curious about your in a world, and there are many different dimensions to that. So I really believe that increased awareness really is what allows you to improve your -bility to move through life with a greater grace because you know, how to flow with things as they are. So, you know, having a tool to help someone anyone have the motivation and curiosity to go and explore the different pieces, and how the interrelate starts to open the doors, and what I've experienced generally with meditation practice is once you've cracked. Open the door a little bit on something than the fruit of seeing. What's there and learning from it gives you more energy to open it further, and there's a virtuous cycle there when it comes to opening in developing awareness. So I think that muse can play a really helpful role in that to give starting points to develop that curiosity and opened the doors a little to start to become aware of something. And I think that's really valuable it certainly the experience that I had. So I came from not having any formal meditation practice being a psychotherapist. So I was certainly wear of meditation and would bring it to my patients and try to implement it with my Haitians, but I couldn't establish a formal practice myself until we really started working on us as a meditation tool, and for me, the first time, I was able to really pay attention to my breath, notice when my mind was wandering, and then choose to come back to my breath and did that consistently for a week or two at a time it opened up this world like, oh, that's what I'm supposed to be doing, and these are the sensations qualities that I get in the world because of it, and then it became very compelling. And I want to just keep doing it. Because I wanted. More of that experience. I wanted more of that like in the moment, I wanted more of that thing. And then all of the reading that I've been doing for fifteen preceding years made sense to me like the whole world meditation opened up once I could finally get it just the first taste of it. And then it wanted I wanted more and more and more. Yeah. So we're recording this podcast on a Tober the twenty seventh on October the thirtieth through releasing something new that you created. So exciting. Tell us what that is. Yeah. I have it right here. K yeah. So this is the news. This is muse to. Yes. It does look like the old one, but it smaller and lighter to tell us about the speedy one thing that happens when you do a bunch of meditation is you become much more attuned to your heart. And this notion of opening your heart has real meaning behind it. And for me, what has been this. This sweetest part of having a meditation. Practice is discovering a much greater emotional connective with myself and others. And so yeah, the sweetness of of living, it's it's palpable. So really exciting to have something which now can tap into the activity of your heart in this experience that news can help you. Discover so the news has a new sensor on the inside. It's PB do censor that actually tracks your heart rate. That's right. The real innovation with muse to is the dishes of a heart sensor, and some really incredible algorithms that we've used with the heart and also the motion sensors that are in the device to help you tap into different things happening inside of yourself. Can you describe the experiences when you learn meditation? The first thing you do learn how to sit and this really just comes down to the fact that if your body's not at rest than is very difficult for your mind to rest, and so meditation postures are upright so you're really awake, but they're also extraordinarily restful, and it's important to find that way of sitting because that provides great foundation. So we wanted in this new embodiment of muse to really address the more filled out spectrum of meditation practice, because we found, you know, in our own exploration that there are many things that are super valuable along the way. May alternately. You know, it all comes down to the mind, but we are embodied. You know, this is also our mind and so- physical body your physical body so muse to addresses your body stillness it addresses, the activity of your heart at addresses, your ability to breathe in different ways to ally to tune your mind, calm, the body energizer self, and it also just like news one allows you to observe and work with the activity of your mind directly sim us to in addition to give you real time feedback on your brain activity. Like, the original news does also gives you feedback on your posture. So you can find the right way to sit on your heart. See can learn to track with your heart and on your breathing. Yeah. That's amazing. Is really exciting. Anybody who has practice yoga understands the importance of the breath in many ways the yoga practice. That's the first most important thing is how you're breathing and there's a whole. Whole practice. They called pronto Yama, and there are different techniques that you use for different purposes, and we may have heard of techniques like relaxing breath, where you exhale for longer their techniques where you inhale and you hold ex hail than hold their techniques where you breathe through alternate. Nostrils there many different techniques. And as you practice them, you discover the potential it has for yourself to feel differently and to work with your, you know, world. But when you first do it, it's difficult because you're just trying to practice it and just trying to learn it, you're not able to really experience what it's doing for you like anything else. There's a practice involved before even turn lies it, and you can actually put it to useful work for yourself. So the idea behind the breath component of this experience was to give a framework where someone can learn different techniques, breathing and understand how they're progressing in that. In bringing their body and their heart into harmony with that style of breathing. It's amazing. What's the actual experience? Like when you're doing breath, exercise what to hear feel? There's a sound that you hear which is in some cases, it's voice and other cases, it's a musical guide. But basically, it makes it very clear when you should be inhaling when you should be exhaling for how long how deeply and also moments where you should be holding your breath. So there's a lot of nuances in some of these different techniques. And so we use verbal guidance and sound as way to help you learn what to do. But then when you practice it for five minutes or ten minutes, it accompanies you for the practice. So there's it's always they're just like if you're doing this in a group, sometimes it use a drum to help, you know into breeze, sometimes use verbal guidance. There's a queued help you keep pace from getting lost. So you can actually continues to practice can also track. Your breathing. During this process, and then you can see the data afterward exactly yet. And so part of what we're looking at with the motion sensors is to what extent your whole body is moving in concert with your breath. And as you build that skill and you're able to relax into it that is kind of the totality of the body movement is just how the breath is misogyny it. It's amazing. You're breathing. Moves you right in. So you can also track the heart. Tell me about the harden why this is meaningful the hearts fascinating. I think this is one of these things where it's going to be very interesting to see what people discover and learn through it. So we know that different people have varying abilities to sense their own heartbeat. Certainly most of us have experienced when we're really stressed or reworking out, really hard. You know, you'll stop fill your heart thudding. So we'll notice it when it is in. In some more, extreme state, Onuma relaxed. We may not necessarily feel it's activity, but what's interesting is your heart beat various quite wildly. And this idea that our heart is kind of like a clock like a metronome is the sort of dominant view, but an actual -ality. It would make terrible metronome clock because it just beats all over the place. And although if you were to look at your wrist, wearable, it would or your chest strap it would say, oh, you know, right now, your heart is like seventy five PM, and you know, a few minutes later, it's seventy five PM, and then it might be seventy four. So it's like, oh, it's just like continuously like beating at seventy five beats per minute. And that's just the clock speed. But an actually it's wildly varying from one to the next to go from ADP 'em down to fifty five PM this happens, especially if a relax it flows with her breath, you breathe in breathe out. There's. Moment to moment change. And so what we found is there's the breath, and there's also the flow of feeling in the body, your emotions your thoughts play a role in this. There are many things which caused the heart to change its rhythm moment to moment. You know, this feeling of my heart. Skipped a beat right or you feel this like you get scared. You feel it's like your heart. Leaps out of your chest. There are moments that we experienced these things because they're an extreme experience. What this is also happening at the minute scale. And so being able to start to experience your heartbeat from moment to moment on this minute moment to moment level allows us to start to build the connective understanding between the ebb and flow of emotion energy in our bodies, and how we participate with that through our breath, and the things that we can do to energize ourselves, and to relax herself becomes more apparent because the sort of fundamental. Energy center were totally tuned into its activity, and you can appreciate how a connects to be. And so it's the experience that you've built into muse allows you to feel that the primary experience is your heartbeat is a drumbeat. So you get to experience your heart as drum, and whenever you hear that drum change tempo. You know that your heartbeat is changing tempo in lockstep with that. And fact, there is a simplicity of there is a drumbeat for every beat of the heart. And then what we do to help dry out. Some of the information about how it's going up and down just like a drummer would add a bit of a flourish to their composition or they're playing. You'll hear a bit of a flourish. When your heart rate is increasing and you'll hear the beat simplifies it goes down. And so there's a fundamental which is your heartbeat. And then there is the sort of dramatic improvisation that your heart is creating you know, in the composition with these little drum, flourishes and other sounds that happen me experiences incredibly gorgeous, the first time I got to hear my heartbeat with news to it was just overwhelming and everybody in the room was standing inside of my heartbeat thought that bad and from doing that I become very aware of my heartbeat regularly. And as it is I've had a Fitbit Alta for awhile. So I already invested in my heart understanding when I should be at my maximal heart rate, while I'm exercising checking my resting heart rate, but that did not in any way, prepare me. For the experience of feeling my heart like seeing a number on your wrist doesn't really have connection to what's really going on inside of you. And once I started to connect to my heartbeat. I could then become aware at any moment. What my heart was doing. And so now, I'm far more every time I'm a little bit stressed or anxious. I feel my heart rate, increasing. So then that becomes a cue to do a breathing exercise in common down let the tension onto my body. And I can feel it calming down as I do want to become aware becomes this. Incredible barometer for your moment to moment stress and acute bring in your relax. Asian to help to even it back out again. Yeah. Something that also happens. Our thing is important to to talk about is for some people when they experienced their heart beating it is a cue that like something's wrong. And so it can provoke us IKEA living as Ivy and one thing that I've found after doing this. I also getting Zaidi. So I can relate one thing. I've found when list when you listen to your. Art and your become familiar with its beating all the time. Usually the moment where this sense -ation breaks through the sort of threshold of consciousness is just like, oh, shoot like my heart's pounding. Like, no, I'm stressed. Now. There's more of like, you're always sort of aware of its presence and experiencing it as no longer a sign of warning. But, but rather you start to appreciate that this variation up and down variation something that's always happening and not a cause for alarm, but actually away of being in tune with yourself, and I think is far as having sort of early warning system for things that are going wrong. There's were were continuously navigating. And I think one of the very cool things that meditation is when you grow a keener sense of how things were flowing. You can really see things earlier and be able to navigate skillfully in a realm where everything actually is totally manageable. Because we're always going like this. It's really when we get to the extreme were tr. Triggered by something where we start to lose control. But you become much better. Never getting close to that point. Because you can sort of do as necessary in the moment. And I think this maybe this what you're getting at there. Meditational allows me to see much more readily like when I start to feel an emotion about something. And when the past it would have been like whoa flying off the handle. It's like, okay. I can see it's a rising. All right. Just it's comet back down. I can observe the arising mother resting homes, or, you know, emerge the arising, and then work with it, which is like sailing, the wave sometimes like the in some ways when we are stressed that is excitement and energy. And what something that I've learned more recently is because I would associate that surge of energy with something bad. I would really not be friends with it. And now in started to appreciate that. Even when I am excited a very positive way. It's the same feeling, you know. And now, I'm just like, whoa. I had this amazing burst of energy. How can I say? Sale with that. And actually haven't energized what I'm doing going. Oh my God. I'm so freaked out in stress right now like something bad's going to happen. Best public speaking tip when you feel the nervousness just interpret as excitement, and then all of a sudden, you're not afraid of speaking. Just judo flip. That's that. Perception is something which is a positive thing. They both feel the same. They both Mike experience that somebody told me that. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Sure. I'll I'll do that, you know. But I think you need to experience it a couple of times of being able to make the transition for to really make it real for yourself. But yeah, once you can do it. You're like, oh, yeah. I can totally use this amazing surge of energy, you know, to bring a greater aliveness to what I'm doing. Well, you've certainly used all the amazing surges of energy in your life to make phenomenal things. It's interesting that you that you say it like that. And everything about it like that. But it's it's true. And I, and I think what arises for me is that those are ways that I've practiced over and over again of channeling my energy and. Having done that for a long time. I really know how to put that energy to work in those ways. But it doesn't mean that those are the only way that I can put that energy to work, you know, it's actually what's comfortable forming. And so I think it's important to realize that we can learn how to do that with almost anything with practice. And it really is what we practice that becomes we are. So I learned early age had a channel that energy into a certain kind of activity. You know, building something with my hands, you know, solving a. Baljic technical problem. But there are other ways that I'm sure I can learn and I feel like I've been learning to channel that energy in different ways into feel comfortable and really expand. Totally new dimensions of what's possible for me. But it's always stick with what you know. You know, it's just you go to your comfort zone. Thank you so much for letting all of us inside your head. So that we can learn a little bit from what you know and start to see what might be possible and all of our lives. And thank you for building a tool that can show people head to learn new skills and learn about themselves and their body and their potential, and what might be possible. And thank you for being part of this journey with me in wouldn't happen without you, and without the the crazy strange chemistry that you Trevor and I had in the beginning. And it's still carries us today. Thanks. Tweet the show notes or see video of our entire full-length conversation. Visit Arielle Garten dot com. A R E L G ARTAS dot com. 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June 15, 2021 - Full Show

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June 15, 2021 - Full Show

"Good evening and welcome to chicago tonight. I'm brandis friedman. Parachutes shuts has the evening off on the show. Tonight there were a couple of matters that are are hanging up the proceedings right now negotiations for a massive energy bill or underway in springfield. We'll talk about its outlook with state. Lawmakers another controversial pipeline is proposed this one in a village near kankakee. Look at why some farmers are concerns. We're off to the races at arlington park. A close up at the racecourses reopening guidelines amid. It's murky future if an earlier era of space exploration was driven by competition. This one will be defined by collaboration. What a permanent human presence on the moon could look like an effort to make chicago's e scooter program permanent hits pothole. Today is two hundred fifty. Nine straight days in lake michigan hen. That number has since grown to three hundred sixty five days meet the great lakes jumper but first some of today's top stories another violent night in chicago. Four people were killed and eight others shot at a house party on south morgan in inglewood. The shooting reportedly started after an argument tuesdays. Early morning. shooting is chicago's second mass. Shooting in just four days. Here's what the mayor had to say today about the violence the reality our city is safe and i stand by that we have done. Yeoman's work of a very difficult year. Where every major city new york office angeles cisco washington dc atlanta And on and on and on the list goes have seen a similar surge in violence and it is distressing a groundbreaking report on the health of black chicagoans is released by the city's public health department and the findings are startling. Cdph says the life expectancy gap between black and non. Black chicagoans is nine point. Two years and rising. The report also shows the homicide rate among blacks is nine times higher. The diabetes related death. Rate is seventy percent higher for black residents black infants or almost three times as likely to die. In their first year of life blacks accounted for half of the people living with hiv and the death rate for opioid related. Overdoses among blacks is more than three times. The rate among non blacks and a key with of news out of springfield. Amanda brenda state. Lawmakers are back in springfield this week to complete unfinished business from their regular session and energy bill legislation for an elected school board in chicago in a measure related to firearm owners identification cards now. The senate today. The house is in tomorrow in joining us now. with more. Our state senator michael hastings a democrat representing parts of tinley park state representative and williams a democrat representing part chicago. State representative david welter. He's republican representing parts of lasalle and we'll counties and state senator cheese plummer a republican representing parts of southern illinois now sender hastings. The senate brought back to springfield really the big thing the energy legislation. What on earth happened. We didn't get any iliad. Some some disagreements. In terms of the energy general amanda. Thank you so much for having us tonight. Really appreciated about eighty percent of the topic areas agreed upon thus far but we still have some hangups. A lot of those hangups revolve around decarbonization and I think over the next few weeks. I think we're gonna come to hopefully in agreement here on and then hopefully make one a largest investments not only renewable infrastructure cross illinois but savings tens of thousands of jobs across the stage. Well we heard a little bit about that earlier today during a senate committee. Let's take a listen on that. hold up. unfortunately there's some bad news. There are a couple of matters that are are are hanging up the proceedings right now One of turn it over to senator castro in his second stock about involves a a matter involving the payment prevailing wage on renewable projects. That i think is close to an agreement. The other problem is just Been a much bigger obstacle overwhelm and that's agreeing on a scheduler decarbonization so decarbonization representative williams. This is something. That you and environmentalists have been advocating for a phase out completely of coal plants. Why is that so important. Absolutely amanda we need to pass a climate bill not a utility bill in springfield. And i'm one of almost fifty legislators that signed a letter to our leaders which stated unequivocally without climate and without equity we have no deal so while we're very excited about the places that we've found agreement and are excited to move forward with comprehensive legislation. We have to have a bill that puts communities climate and consumers. I and we're hopeful that we can get their hopeful that you can get there again. No deal yet. Despite legislators being brought to the capital to vote on this very plan representative welter. Can you explain. What is the point of calling a special session when there is no compromise. Thank you as with any negotiations. Things come together. And sometimes they fall apart and there's some issues. I believe that when we were intended to come back to springfield there was some agreement on a majority of this bell. however as my colleagues touched on and talked about today a decarbonization seems to be the big sticking point here interns away believe bill was not passed today in the senate of it's great question. I'm in the super minorities. So the democrats have the super majority in the house and the senate tactically. They don't need republican votes but to get an energy package done as we've seen in two thousand. Sixteen in prior years is a bipartisan effort. And that's what it's going to take automatically to get this energy bill pastor so many things in it that may seem controversial to one caucus or one legislator and maybe not so much to the other so trying to find some common ground in agreement. And i believe what would our caucus republics continue to advocate his for eight green energy future. But what i would say is we just have a much different philosophy view and how we get there compared to maybe many of our democrat counterparts of size tall in ways. Not going to work in this situation what what works in. Pg on market northern illinois is not going to work in southern illinois. and and. that's what. I don't believe we're necessarily respecting taking into account. But hopefully that will happen and we. We need to get something really by the end of june representative. Walter what are you looking for. That would be different for your parts. You're the area that you represent versus say the the chicago area. I have a very unique district that is the most energy intensive district in the state of illinois. i get represents three of the nuclear plants. Dresden braid wooden the lasalle station so a lot of jobs a lot of direct jobs at these plants but also a lot of secondary job with the vendors that come into these plants and work so that is important to me but it should also be important to those folks like representative williams and others who advocate four zero carbon or no carbon emissions in order for illinois to get to the goals of where we all wanna go. We can't do that in the short term without nuclear. And i think there's some common agreement about that but it it's really about what support we give and in in these negotiations right now. That doesn't seem to be the sticking-point nuclear provisions have been agreed to somewhat verbally since we left springfield on may thirty first Again the sticking point is the decarbonization that really targets central and southern illinois jobs forces closures prematurely what's municipalities on the hope for millions hundreds of millions of dollars bombs. These are issues that are just unacceptable to our caucus and downstate. And i'm hearing walk. Don't seek democrats as well as i do. Wanna touch on these nuclear plants because of course a few years back illinois did come forward with subsidies paid for by ratepayers to keep open a pair of nuclear plants now asking for money to keep open another four of these plants and that would be byron and dresden looking at my list here so we see them so the quad cities in clinton did. Is you see in yellow on your screens will have already got this ratepayer subsidy and now brentwood lasalle dresden and byron looking for though looking for a ratepayer bail out how do you justify that at this point in time representative williams given that exelon at least it subsidiary com ed has been in mired in this corruption scandal. Well you said while. Amanda we have clearly not have the appropriate oversight over the utilities prior to this and that's what resulted in the ongoing comments scandal so i think one important foundational piece of any under energy legislation deals with utility accountability and ethics provisions. That includes everything from putting an independent monitor at the ic to monitor compliance and ethics proposals form utilities themselves to changing how we do rate making to eliminate automatic or formula rates. The reality is nuclear is unnecessary bridge to get us to a renewable energy future. And we can't afford to continue on doing coal carbon emissions into the air. We've got to do what we can to get. Those plans. off-line rely on nuclear to get us to where we can be one hundred percent renewables in the future. And that's under palmer got to bring you in here. We've talked a lot. About how the big point of contention is what is going to happen with illinois and when they need to be phased out in a big one there that prairie plant does provide some lectures to some of the western suburbs of chicago but also is based in your district. We had a bipartisan group of fifty two lawmakers writing a letter this weekend opposing the closure of plants like prairie state saying if purry stayton city water light and power which is in springfield are prematurely shuttered illinois will need to import power from other states likely from less efficient coal plants this would transform illinois into a net importer of dirtier power and a net exporter of jobs. So senator plummer. What is your answer for the future of prairie state so i have immune. This is an important for you. Know i think one thing. We have to recognize the fact that we're still talking about version. All right now shows that this is a complete failure we have folks in springfield ideology instead of in good public policy in the reality is we really need to have energy base here in illinois over hunt coming. You know. it's a bad game problems when it comes to attracting jobs attracting businesses and you know one of the new things that we have in our favor. Right now senator in a reliable grid were known for that and we have those things because of the diverse energy supply. We have now. we have by going after. Newt going after paul going after gas and you know there's some special interests involved in conversation. My simple question is who is in this room that standing up for ratepayers who is in this room. Think you're working on Because if you go after prairie state if the plant springfield after some of these wires you're going to just like you sent me bringing in power for less ignition plants across the country and were were actually on a stoking backwards instead of moving forward together escape that we'll get to that more. Perhaps coming up you guys will be joining us once again in just a bit legislator so that is where we're going to have to leave it for now again. We will be joined by state lawmakers later in the program to discuss. The chicago elected school board proposal. Also floyd cart legislation. But for now our thanks to senator hastings representative williams and welter and to senator plumber. And now brandis toss it back to you. Thank you amanda chicago-based global architectural powerhouse skidmore owings and merrill designs everything from train stations to high rises to airports. In fact it's currently working on a redesign of the state and lake l. station downtown but it also has its sights set beyond chicago beyond earth in fact in collaboration with the european space agency and mit. The firm has developed designed for a lunar colony grounded in science fact rather than science fiction. That design is now being showcased if the world renowned venice biennale in arts festival in italy joining us now to tell us more is your d- petrov associate director at skidmore owings and merrill where he works as a structural engineer and at least part of the time as a space architect georgi thank so much for joining us so as i just mentioned. This was an initiative from the european space agency. How did skidmore owings and merrill come to be designing colony for the move on. Thank you very much for having me tonight. Pressure to share with you students that have flown in space. So far has been designed by engineers start with the the rockets and then put the spaceship in and does in. There is the human so we architecture firm and our way of thinking of designing with the humans in mind i and wrapping around them to really contribute to to how we design things for outer space. And so we're fortunate enough to get approach billion space agency to collaborate with them to to give forum to their vision of how we could go back to the moon in a different way. What were some of the parameters of this design project designing habitats or the entire infrastructure an ecosystem of the lunar colony. We actually started on many different levels. We started with the masterplans years of urbanism. And how informed community that can grow over time we also tried to introduce the sense of place making poetry have it that human community needs not just to survive but also an identity every city and every town on earth has landmark. The residents are proud of. We also designed one of the possible. Did that so on a scale of a single unit and then we've also looked at some technology in our expertise of how to actually build it and put it together so many different sort of levels so is what you've envisaged Is this realizable with the current technology. Yes we try to start with this idea that everything that we've designed is something that has either been tested and flown in stays swords being developed right now and so it's given the the resources and the will it's something that could be implemented in the near future. How would these habitats be built as you've been speaking. Of course we've been showing folks some of the rendering that you all have shared with us. Would they would. The materials have to be brought to the moon or the habitats. Have to be brought to the moon and assembled there. What are the resources like on the moon to build them one of the places on the moon. It's been the most interesting in the last. Ten years is the the two polls and particularly the southern pole because over the last twenty years of through many missions both from nassar in other countries. We realize that there's a lot of resources in in the south pole and so Originally everything that you bring would have to be brought from earth but the idea is that we would go to the polls because that's where there's there's water in the resources that you could learn how to use the material there because even even with the current sort of advancements in Analogy it's still very very expensive to get to the moon and so anything that you don't have to bring from earth would be very welcome in us on there and nasa has targeted returning humans to the moon by twenty twenty four with its artemis missions although most observers of course expect that date to be pushed back Do you think we'll see some of these designs or variations of them on the moon in our lifetimes sincerely hope so. It's been quite awhile since we set foot there but in the last few years collaboration between sort of government agencies like nasa and isa in the private sector is given a new life than you hope that he could get their sustainably and of course. There's the venice biennale. What kind of installation can visitors see. If they get the chance to go to venice this summer with the venice biennale topic this year is how we live together and the idea of our moon villages that we would go there together collaboratively and can not as a competition and so we. We have built our exhibit along those lines. We have a big model of the master plan. And we do have produced this video. The stowing story alley okay. Georgy petrov will have to leave it there. Thank you so much for joining us. We're looking forward to seeing what you come up with on the mooner when it gets there up. Next what to expect this season at arlington international racecourse stay with us coverage of science and technology. On chicago tonight is made possible in part by joel m friedman president of the alvin bomb family fund. It's home to trainers jockeys and others in the horse racing industry and during summer weekends. It's a place for fans to bet on their favorite racehorse arlington. International racecourse is officially open. For what could be its last season. We stopped by for a visit on the day of the state's full reopening mornings at arlington. International racecourse quiet that you don't count the rumble of galloping horses. Training jockey chris. Amy says those early hours are essential every morning out here working horses trying to get him. Better keep them in shape and then usually the crowd just dumped in ceesay and result. But there's also you know months and months sometimes years of work to get to that point for that wondering the high speed and the adrenaline rush drew amy to the sport after his middle school. Bus driver suggested that he and his twin brother. Aaron give it a try as so fun. And i always tell everyone is better than a real job. And there's nothing like it in the world fast forward to today and amy has been racing at arlington for more than twenty years becoming the race tracks. Third all time leading rider such a beautiful trag one of the best in north america when you win here. It doesn't matter if it's a small raise big race you feel like you made it especially when we had the crowd here and cheering you on. It's so loud and you can feel the energy of the people. The park reopened on april thirtieth with safety precautions. Limited capacity social distancing in sanitizing stations. In place now vaccinated guests can do away with face masks. But despite the good feelings this might be the racecourses final season we kinda coined this the final. Turn just to send the message to people. Get out and come out and experience arlington for one. Last time or revisit memories that you may have of arlington and create new memories. One last time because arlington's parent company churchill. Downs put the race course up for sale. Back in february. There's a chance. The new owner selected by churchill could redevelop the three hundred twenty six acre property but patrol says arlington has overcome pass challenges in its near one hundred year history and he believes arlington's legacy and name will persevere. You had the fire in one thousand nine hundred eighty five and just twenty one days later. Rising from the ashes was a tent city. In the arlington million was conducted was now coined. The miracle million. So there are a number type of those circumstances where we've risen to the challenge but it's you know it's really the people that do it and the investment that they have in arlington when we stopped. By the day of the state's full reopening fans indeed appeared invested in making the most of their time. It's just so nice to be you know it's just so sad that it's closing where all we're all like you know this used to be our thing would beaten come here. So it's a bummer. A lot of people don't want come they think it's hell because they say well. I don't really like bed and horse on montlake and that's how it it. Is this just a place to gather place associated a family place coming on sunday family day and then when they come out they say that it's not what i expected. Arlington has also become a family. Place for amy. It's not only where he spent the majority of his career but also where he met his fiancee. Britney vandenberg in next month. It's where they'll get married. I just want to keep it going on a home here. I got a nice horse farm. We we love being here and racing. All year is more of a family. Orientated place all the jockeys and groans and balanced we all get along great so we're hoping to discontinue staying here. Instead of having to move away and today marks the last day for developers and investors to submit proposals churchill downs for the property. You can visit our website for updates on the racecourses future still to come on chicago tonight. Legislation to create an elected school board chicago heads to the house. We talk with illinois lawmakers. You've probably heard of controversial keystone pipeline project but now there's talk of a proposed pipeline outside. Kankakee did last year's electric scooter program deliver on spreading transit equity as planned to take a look at the data and a full year of jumping into lake michigan. Meet these great late jumper in the story behind the cause. But i some more of today's top stories day two of chemical fire burning in northern illinois. The fire started at kim tool located in rockville. Near the wisconsin. Border officials say it could take seven days to burn out as evacuations and road closures. Continue residents within a three mile have been asked to mask up as the environmental protection agency monitors the situation. Here's what fire chief. Kirk wilson had to say today about extinguishing the half million gallons burning oil once that's done and we can get the smoke plume to dissipate and we are ensure the air quality is good In the area ground air quality then we can start looking at bringing our residents back into our community and good news for travelers coming to chicago. All states and territories are listed as yellow on the chicago department of public health. Emergency travel order list that means travelers arriving in chicago from anywhere in the. Us do not need to quarantine or have a negative covid. Nineteen testing before arriving. Meanwhile countries covid nineteen death. Toll has topped six hundred thousand. According to johns hopkins university that means the number of lives lost is about equal to the number of americans who died of cancer in two thousand nineteen the reported covid nineteen death toll worldwide stands at about three point eight million as the city expands. Its reopening the organizers of lollapalooza announced the official lineup of more than fifty shows. Those will happen around town at fourteen chicago venues which is huge news to smaller music venues that were shuttered during the pandemic after show. Tickets are slated to go on sale at ten. Am friday and vigna. Is your speed tickets to the at the historic norsar. Venue are set to go on sale tomorrow for shows between july first august fifteenth. You can only tickets for revenue on their website and now back to amanda with more from state lawmakers. Amanda thanks brandis earlier in the program. We discussed a massive energy. Bill stalled in springfield. And now we are. Back with state senator hastings and state representative william welter also state senator plummer to begin with the governor. Today issued a mandatory veto on the budget. This had to fix a whole lot of after that would have meant some of the budget. Otherwise wouldn't have gone into effect until a year from now senator hastings. How could something like. This have happened just like other telecommunications bill. Sometimes there's airs that indiscriminate arizona all our ads dates. Whether it's a one word here that would fire corrections today. In the senate voted to the passed a revised version of that to crack those heirs So from time to time this happens we built on. There was a minor air been affected the entire bill. So sometimes when you realize problem the responsible thing to do is to correct it and that's what we did today representative walter any response to that might have to do with the quick fashion in which the budget was drafted. Proposed voted on a common complaint of ours. You get a bill. That's pages of long and dropped on you and our couple of hours before your expected to vote on it and it's terrible process. It's not a good way to legislate and things like this happen. But you know when you're busy sneaking in legislators pay raises you're not to concern sometimes about some of the other details and that's what we ran into here. We're here though. The democrats have the votes and if they all showed for tomorrow we could pass the house now. What of those pay raises. These are something that we've been hearing about. I believe it's about two thousand dollars. Extra year representative williams. Do legislators deserve that. Why why not well as you may be aware there is litigation ongoing as to how legislators pay is treated so i think that issue is under consideration right now by the courts and it will be interesting and helpful to see what the courts advised us in origin forward. I'm certainly open to looking at a different process for that. But right now what we have in the constitution is how we're doing it. I think like. I said the court should be weighing on this and we'll take direction from the words. Amanda if i can't maybe they're just just come from local government and governed by the same statutes of illinois constitution and elected officials compensation pay not being changed during a current term are locals whether it's aldermen county board members. They vote on those compensations. Before the new board's elected just as state statute calls for. It'd be pretty simple for the general assembly to throw on the board right now prior to the next election cycle that those legislators will either get a pay freeze the way it's set up and statute now though it's automatic so we could anytime produce. Legislation put forward Unfortunately joy at this point is chose not to do that representative williams. I want to go back to you. Something that the house is expected to be voting on tomorrow. Not an energy bill per se but the elected school board legislation. What are you hearing from your constituents. How do you plan to vote. Well i will be supporting the elected school board bill as i have several times in the past it's passed the house probably at least three times over the course of the past of four or five years. There's a couple points first of all the chicago. School board is the only word in the state that is not elected and we're one of very few major cities have not elected school board a secondly. I think it's important to keep in mind the way we're structuring. This bill ensures that all parts of the city are truly represented so that is why we looked at the structure that we did and finally. This is one of the few items where i've actually got some real data as to where my constituents stand there've been at least two electoral referenda on this issue and both have shown support upwards of eighty five percent so i will be in support how is also expected to vote on legislation that would pave the way for quicker processing of firearm owners. Identification cards not mandating fingerprinting. But if you wanna get a speedier floyd card then you would have to give your fingerprints senator plumber. What are your thoughts on that measure. As if the house passes it would go to governor debut for scores desk. So i mean i think it's pretty simple. That's not a fixed. That's gonna satisfy gun owners. Were making a law-abiding citizen jump through extra hoops when they're just trying to exercise their constitutional if we want to fix the four and you could just get rid of the void and we can take all of those state police resources and get them out on the street after the crime that we knows ravaging our group and we might have lost you there. Let's go. I want to be shirt to get a better idea. We talked a lot about energy when we initially were chatting but bringing back to that again. This massive package a lot of expectations. Does everybody on this panel. Believe that energy package is going to pass before exelon makes good on. Its threats of closing nuclear plants. There's also renewable jobs at stake is something going to happen. Can i get a quick. Yes or no from each of you senator. Hastings spent the last three years work in. And then i'll just tell you right now when it comes down to there's this is going to be the most substantial package investment in renewable energy l. Preserve our position as leader the entire country our decarbonization plan. Whether it's the are the land that we have is our working group. Is the most aggressive decarbonization plan while maintaining people's when it comes to nuclear fleet up siren now coming off a covid losing twenty eight thousand jobs. It's not acceptable. It's just not. Is this going to happen. You know it needs to happen. We are poised to pass one of the most nation leading comprehensive climate bills. That's been seen and it has to happen for climate for jobs for recovery from hobart hearings to happen but hasn't yet represented welter on cautiously optimistic. I see the in. We'll leave it there. Senator plummer real quick. You know i. I i think we need to be someone. There representing the rate bears and right now. I'm not convinced that they're going to get everybody at the table. All right one for the last few weeks. He's weren't invited. Lieutenant were this energy bills. Were creating ethics nightmare. Springville be why are we not applying the same rules and the same ethics requirements to the renewables that we are to the nukes. We need transparency in this. We try and be his transparent in ever having conversations here on chicago tonight. Afraid we do have to leave it. There are things to senator hastings and representatives williamson welter also to senator plumber and now to fill say with a controversial pipeline proposal. Fill amanda bill. Heading do governor. Jay pritzker dessus causing controversy in a village outside of kankakee. The bill would provide funding for a proposed natural gas pipeline for the village of hopkins. Park in pembroke. Township supporters say the pipeline could provide economic growth for the area but there are concerns about the environmental impact particularly in an area that was once the largest black farming community in the northern united states. Joining us with more are mark. Hajjis mayor of the village of hopkins park republican state representative. Jackie haas who sponsored the bill. And i only davis the founder of president of blacks in green that is a group that advocates for sustainable living in african american communities. And thank you so much for joining us First of all mayor haj. What exactly was the pipeline. Do the line would Bring industry to our community your community in a way that does not seem before meaning that would Bring jobs jobs will bring families to the community. Families would bring their children and expand our school system Which has been depressed for quite some time as we've been left behind For many decades People have in in springfield have recognized that our community has been left behind and they want to modern art. I community just like every community around us has been modernized. Now davis It sounds like the mayor's point is that it would basically catch things up that This is a community that is according to a spokesperson for rainbow porsche. energy experiencing energy poverty. How do you see it representation. That there i will be a line. That will bring jobs just a fiction. The entire south cook county is replete with black communities winds of fueled by natural gas which are experiencing economic depression right now and how many times have wet communities heard over and over and over again that something was going to bring jobs we are experienced enough to know and especially those of us in the clean energy feel that there is no silver bullet that are going to bring jobs in. Industry does not come to communities without broadband without any kind of of police fire or other protections against nine four leaks which are legend Representative jackie haas. Why did you think it was a project that merited your support. Sarah thank you felt. I'm a lifelong resident of kkk. County of this district. And i actually grew up and the neighboring town next to pembroke township and this has been a decades long issue for this and really for as long as i can remember. This is an initiative that was also worked on by my predecessor. And i have to tell you. I am so excited that this bill has had such wonderful bipartisan support. Not just on the local level but it was also well evidenced in both the house and senate chambers as it passed both with overwhelming. My partisan support. Naomi gave us the fact. The fact is it did pass with overwhelming. Bipartisan support. Does that speak to the merits of the project. In your mind let me let me speak to the deceit at it represents Really really good. People were misled In a campaign of miseducation southern company and nine for to be ashamed of themselves for the quality of the Of the reporting the community engagement the information the engineering the cassini's that should have been held and we know from our experience. What community engagement is. There's no evidence in any public records and we are foia in them that there has been any Any meaningful substantial or accurate community engagement happening over a few years process. And i'll tell you something else. It was at the thirteenth hour after midnight after the session of the legislature was officially over That we had worked so hard and and valiantly and won the opportunity to pull the bill from the role there was a thirteenth our deal after many legislators had agreed that it was not the right thing at the right time and that renewable energy in pembroke was the way to go look. Let me show you something. Renewable head rock. There is a campaign. There has been a campaign. For a long time against pipelines in him rook. We are not stopping. We're going to the governor. We are expecting to request at a mandatory veto because we understand the very thin margin of opinion that separates of bad bill. A good deal and it's passing because the mayor back. Let's get the mayor back in this on. Mr mayor described physically with the pipeline is going to do how big are going to be and it's going to connect what to what well essentially the pipeline is lloyd to come our main and central avenues and yours an opportunity just like they have in every community around us to bring industry to the community but first of all i like to say that ninety seven percent ninety seven percent of the people they completed survey that live in the village a hopkins kimball township ninety. Three percent said yes. The natural gas is. She's you mr mayor mr mayor. What i'm really asking is how many people are going to be connected to this. Natural gas pipeline however visit. What are we talking about on the initial raise. We're looking at four hundred homes but to get back to my white ninety. Seven percent of the people in the village hopkins park and ninety three percent of the people have been township said yes to natural. Cast the people that are saying no to natural gas live in chicago and they enjoy natural gas and the people in pale in hopkins part. Want to enjoy the same clean energy. We have used would fuel oil and propane for decades. It is time to modernize this community in time for people. They're standing in the way to move to the side the people in springfield the central house and the floor. Clearly understand we have been held back intentionally or not. We have been and they understand that we needed to move forward. The how representatives tried to pull this bill at the last minute of last hour where we have sixty votes before twelve o'clock. They make sure. The bill was called after twelve o'clock when seventy one votes were needed. Excuse me let's. Let's not get into the weeds on that one night. Only davis says we mentioned this was once the largest black farming community in the northern united states. what are the potential implications for african american farmers in the area. It is a globally rare. Three by on ecology in pembroke which farmers for hundreds of years have been actively and intentionally serving against the intrusions. Four times resisting. A gas pipeline coming to the community. We understand that there are twenty four documented cases of nine for gas leaks at a five hundred million dollar cost. There was an expose on w. cia tv. That clearly pointed out the clear and present danger. Nine four is under investigation by the illinois attorney general's office for safety incursions and so when we talk about what we know about. Conserving the land We are talking about a culture that is looking to continue its traditions. It's still longest. African continuously occupied african founded down in the state of illinois an underground railroad stronghold on a leading of black farming stronghold in the in the in the country and and the way the The gerrymandering of the votes of an and frankly it's insulting that every time. They are hodge speeds. He has a different statistic that sites for how many people voted and a representative hoster sell. Excuse me i excuse me. Miss davis time time. We're almost out of time. And i'd like to get representative. Hossen here for the closing comment. The bill is on the governor's desk. Are you confident that the governor's going to sign it. I am confident that the governor will sign it. This is a great bell. It's a great thing for this community. This community has been asking for this and they've been waiting for this utility service for decades and to ask them to to to wait any longer let's be honest. They've been waiting long enough and it would be a disservice to this community And would only marginalize them any further to continue. Table is made in this this spell together out onto the governor stuff and i do feel confident that he will do the right thing sign. Sinus davis representative. Jackie haas and mayor. Markaj we appreciate you being here. Thank you so much all of you and up. Next chicago's e scooter program. become permanent. Stay with us for more. Don't ever miss chicago to subscribe to our podcast daily download of our show delivered to your desktop or mobile device. Go to w. w. dot com slash chicago tonight podcast and subscribe last year's electronic scooter program which ran from december saw an increase in scooters provided but a decline in overall ridership. Those are some of the findings of chicago department of transportation. Report examining the city's twenty twenty scooter program while some officials discuss possible permanent easter program. Some members of city council or raising safety concerns about the swift moves of transport joining us. Now with more are alex. Res- advocacy manager of the nonprofit active transportation alliance and john greenfield co editor of streets. Blog chicago and transportation columnist for the chicago reader. Welcome back to chicago tonight. Alex perez. Let's start with you please. What were your biggest takeaways from seats. Report of two thousand twenty programme. Yeah thank you for having me One of the big takeaways that i saw was the trips replacements at scooters were doing so thirty percent of the replace by schools. Were pretty much either gonna be driving using right hell and also replaced a lot of walking trips so that you can see people are interested in using on scooters to get around chicago as an efficient way and cheaper way dan driving or taking a right john greenfield. How about you. were your biggest takeaways. Remarkable thing about last year's pilot was that even though there were a lot more scooters there was a ten thousand dollar cab compared to twenty five hundred twenty nine team at a much larger surface a service area between nineteen fifty square miles to the west northwest sides. Last year was basically the entire city except for the loop in the near north side of directly fewer rides taken last year there were six hundred and sixty five thousand rides taken in two thousand nineteen but only five hundred forty thousand rides taken last year. So that's kind of puzzling. Like if if the program expanded so much. Why they're sewer rides and john to that point you think. The pandemic was the primary reason for that. Decrease in ryan's. Yeah that definitely was a factor. I mean people weren't really using the scooters for work commutes much. I would guess or at least much much less pure. We're going to downtown office jobs. Couple of other possible factors were that divvy rolled out their new electric bikes. Which was a very successful program. Did he had four of its most. Its busiest months ever last year during the summer and fall and that probably stole some of the thunder from easterners. There was another way. You could go you fast. Animal a micro mobility device and then there's also the factor that in twenty nineteen scooters were new whereas last year. They were kind of old hat so the people just take him for joyrides just to see what it was like an alex. The city did make an effort to expand this form of transit to the south and west sides as john. Just mentioned you know. We had a greater radius data shows that almost a quarter about twenty three percent of trips were taken within the equity priority area. What does that tell you. Does that prove that. The initiative was a as definitely positive to increase range. Where does which could be placed and especially bringing it down to the south and west sides where transit options are as good and as well as kind of with priority. Another thing that to be done is pretty much district conditions when it comes to the expansion. A lot of the streets in the often sides are really just eighth street for people to be reading scooter on. There's a lot of high speeds a lot of not of a big trucks that are in the area and there's really not much of bike. Lanes are protected bike lanes. That could keep people safe fighting on the street for be on the streets. The sidewalk john greenfield. The city. said that the east khuda complaints two three one one decreased in twenty nineteen Do you think that the the public sort of acclimated to the scooters. Because obviously last year there was that requirement that meant that had to be locked to something that the contributing factor here no. There was a very concrete reason why the complaints went down. And that's actually something that streets black chicago advocated for is In two thousand nineteen. There were plenty of issues with vandalism of scooters there was even a feed called. I think chicago scooter. Fails was funny pictures of scooters. Hang from trees an imbalance and stuff and also to scooters being parked in properly blackened sidewalks those were things that really annoyed people so we advocated for having locked to rule which means that the scooters have to have a built in locked and a requirement that when he parked the scooter you have to lock into a fixed object like a parking meter sign poll or bike rack and so the city of chicago Advice on that. I mean we weren't the only reason they did that but They did pass that rule and because of that. I think prowse would sidewalk cluttered vandalism or much less last year. Alex some alderman recently though express opposition to a proposed permanent scooter program citing safety concerns as well as a desire to have maybe the scooters docked together with the divvy bikes. What is your assessment of this opposition to a permanent program Pretty ultimately what it comes to bring it in a permanent program. It should really be about making sure that the safety pretty much being the number one issue when it comes to bring in more scooters especially when it comes to crashes or potential crashes so i feel like the ottoman especially that don't wants putin they're wards the four city of the program shutdown when has been proven some wards up pretty much what benefit from scooters coming into the city. John your thoughts. What's what's your assessment of this opposition. And what the alderman is saying. Yeah i mean. I was saying earlier that i think it's pretty analogous to the reaction to give you stations in some neighborhoods. People have viewed stations is a bit of a nuisance leg. Something that creates loitering or we've had browns with divvy thefts so people are worried. That like divvy stations are gonna be creme generator of but then other people in those communities appointed out the dibiase resource. It's helps people get to work. Get physical activity gets his school. So you know. We don't provide divvy stations in all neighborhoods. Can we're really missing out So something goes would scooters. You know there's potential for people to miss his them but there's also a lot of potential for scooters to you know help people where they need to go and help holes in the trans transportation network the transit network and improve transit equity so so therefore i don't think we should cave to alternate you. Don't want skiers in their wards. That's where we'll have to leave at my thanks to alex perez and john greenfield for joining us and give me well. He did it last weekend. Dan o'connor a man also known as the great lake jumper completed his three hundred and sixty fifth consecutive. Jump into lake michigan every day for a full year o'connor leapt into the lake to raise money for local music venues on this special later. He goes local legend. Jeff tweedy of the indie rock band wilco played out more than one hundred jumps ago chicago. Tonight's evan garcia met up with the great lake jumper to see him swim in decidedly colder waters last february. Here's another look. It's a chilly morning in late. February and dan o'connor is planning his exit strategy. Probably spent about Twenty twenty five minutes with a shovel and and Mostly a hammer. Just chipping away at the ice. Oh i had a A clear path back out to the ladder. Dan is doing something. Most people find unthinkable this time of year plunging into lake michigan. The water temperature today thirty three degrees. Dan says this is the two hundred and fifty nine th straight day. He's jumped in the lake. He says it all began with a headache back in june. I started doing it. 'cause i was hung over the first day and i felt so good to be out in the lake kind of wash away. All the stuff that was happening in america time the pandemic and the politics and the protests and the unrest and it just felt like a good clean start to the day dubbing himself the great lakes jumper dan has gained and incredulous audience online while filming his jumps from various lakefront locations. Dan says his daily diving routine helped him cope with the disappearance of live music during the pandemic before kobe. Now shut down. Chicago's live music scene. Dan sold hand stenciled custom clothing from music. Venues like this one metro in the wrigleville neighborhood. Doing this For about close to fifteen years. For the i say six eight years. I was doing it for friends and family at festivals. I'd pick k- there's one hundred bands on the festival. I picked my favorite tan. Cut a stencil and spray paint. Ten shirts give them out to you. Know we're one and give them nine out to my friends and family while he works fulltime as a bus driver in the north suburbs selling homemade shirts has been successful side hustle for dan a few years ago. He was invited to sell his clothing at lollapalooza official pop up store. I own your little called but with in-person concerts still on hold. Dan is trying to raise money for civil. An organization formed by fourteen of the city's independent music venues kind of directing people. Hey if you like this content online of me jumping in the lake for you know two hundred and fifty nine days today in a row and donate to their sometimes. Local acts like cielito. Lindo accompany him with music. Just trying to get You know different genres different instruments of people to show the breadth of chicago and a warning to any daring divers looking to follow. Dan's lead plunging into cold. Water can cause cold shock or involuntary gasping. That can lead to drowning. According to the national weather service a life jacket is recommended have serene moments and i think also part of it is diving in and that shock to the body that you know you get this kind of full body buzz Those endorphins released for chicago tonight. I'm evan garcia and after a full year. Dan says he took his first day off from jumping into lake michigan. On sunday he plans to continue his lakefront habit. Although not every day. And that's our show for tuesday night. Please join us tomorrow. Night live at seven state. Lawmakers meet tomorrow in springfield spotlight. Politics team breaks it. Down and game of thrones author. George martin on his time at northwestern and how chicago influence to work now for all of us chicago tonight. I'm brian friedman. Thanks for watching. Stay healthy and safe and have a good night Closed captioning is made possible by robert a clifford and clifford law offices. 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S5E5 Getting out of the Friend Zone

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S5E5 Getting out of the Friend Zone

"The dateable podcast features real stories from real people of how they make dating work for. Not i'm your host. Uej former dating coach turned dating insider. If you will on each episode you'll hear commentary from my producer. Julie craft chick and other surprise. Co-hosts this episode of dateable is brought to you by five hundred brunches. Five hundred branches connects like minded people with similar interests to meet in real life. You answer a questionnaire about your interest and how you spend your time. And then they'll match you in groups of sixty eight at a brunch spot in san francisco. Get a free entry into brench now by signing up at five hundred brunches dot com and using the code date able everyone welcome to another episode of dateable a show all about modern dating on each episode. We hear real stories from real people of how they nick. Modern danny work or not in some cases in today's case we're talking about the friends. Oh dun dun dun and some of you know this already. But i was dating coach when i was living in new york and one of the main reasons why people would come to me for help. One was to get more checks that that's what they say. In the second reason was how do i get out the friend zone. It's one of those questions that you know everyone. It's like the million dollar question and my answer to them was always. You cannot get out the friends though once. You've been the friend zone. You can't climb out but in today's case that's all changed. We have amy chris. Hey guys hanging out just a little background on both of you. First of all you're engaged outright Okay so you went from friends. Zome totally platonic to now being engage. Yes and not a platonic engagement. Either i just want to clarify spread like a push on the way. I want to give a little background on both amy and chris. Amy has been in san francisco for nine years originally from palm springs. She's thirty two years old and we ask oliver gas to fill out this type form before they come on the show so we get a little background on them and when the answer one of the questions is what do you wanna talk about on this episode. And amy's answer was how we moved out of the friend zone to make a life together. That's just beautiful Poem itself and. Chris has been in san francisco for seven years originally from fairfax virginia. He's thirty three years old and his answer to that question was how i got a girl of my dreams. I need to know what's going on first of all. Let's just rewind you guys were friends for how long two and a half years and at what point did this friendship. Turn into a romantic relationship. Long story the basis of it was that we had a lot of common goals and shared values. And even though i knew he was interested in it. Felt kind of like more than i was ready for To have a friend. Because i saw him as someone that i could spend time with a business partner or or more just because of our strongly value system. How did you know that chris was interested. You could multiple situations where it happened to sort of slip out. you know. liking. What lay. I wanna hear. Well i couldn't really cover up my feelings. And so for instance in india i might get a couple more cups of tea and knee than normal and i would just cop. I really like lines. And then there was several sort of fizzled out moments of that type. That were all no no. We're not gonna go there to sort of refined our our balances france and for each of those moments. Did you think maybe in the future. Maybe soon i did. Even amy was really clear with her boundaries initially always kind of left the door open a crack in one way making her. What way for instance. Like i can remember one time first time when i told you that i really liked you. And you're like no. I don't think that we have future air. Not sad and it's not gonna change you know i was. I was kind of hurt. Asked to some extent in sort of disappeared for a little while and disappeared. You would always kinda like come back. Get reach child. At some our young she would reach back out after a little while like. Hey where are you. I'm sorry were you. I didn't hear from you ever since that Conversation we are you. Okay and amy. What were your intentions with these Yeah i thought your friends. I really cared autumn. La so i cared about his well-being i wanted to make sure he was okay. I still saw us as good friends. No matter what the reason why I didn't like say okay. Can't be friends that again. You're being a little weird to me. Right now is. Because i know i saw i saw more to him in those two and a half years. He has just friends whether other people picture in him so for about side. So let's start with chris. How did you feel when he was dating. Other people well I typically felt jealous. Some extent with i managed a pretty kind of hidden way but that for me was always a sign that i really liked. A girl look felt that so. We had a couple experiences at burning man And it always was a little hard for me to see you with other is where you sizing up these other guys where you like. Hey i somers better than this stoop. Yeah but you know there's also i think that one of the real crucial kind of things that i learned about having really close friends that i also am attracted to is being able to consciously go some of those feelings and if there's one single thing that i feel like i've really learned about that is is really striving in trying to find that real french deeper friendship not the lake because i had other girlfriends in the past i i Destroy the relationship from eating way overly aggressive on not really knowing when to stop and not being able to let go and in your mind. Were you thinking this isn't going to happen just yet of a timing reason or did you actually think maybe this will never happen. I didn't really know. But i knew that i loved you so much. Just for who you are and the way you are couldn't walk away from it was just like this force year needs you. I i didn't really know. But i knew that the connection was incredibly something that i want so like heat nourishing so ammon ask you the same question. How did you feel when chris in those two and half years. Chris was dating these girls knowing you knowing that he had a crush on you. Yeah well that's why. I wanted to be really clear with boundaries is because there was other people involved and i wanted to make sure that we're like we could be. We could maintain our friendship without getting into that year zone. And i think that's the biggest thing that that boundary so clear so strong that he felt like we. There was something deeper that we couldn't connect on. I wasn't open up to him and But i mean i was. I'm happy to see him with other. People are just wanted him to be happy. And i was with other people so i was fine with that. Any sense of jealousy in any of those moments was times where he was with. someone else. Said with another person. We're you know we're a team. We're the we're we're like the to dynamic duo yet. There is a few points. Where just kinda didn't understand why he was with somebody else but because he was sort of therapists that hansel one of the most interesting things. I think our relationship is because we set the precedent friends. We were all is completely open at each other. I was able to tell her. My deepest darkest secrets including the doubts that i had about currently stuff that i couldn't even tell mike girlfriend that so kind of set this the stage for being completely open and i think that that's really helped us but amy you said something that i find interesting you said why are you dating her. You weaker. the dynamic duo here don't end. That's unfair to chris. Yup probably i mean but sometimes you just think something but you want to wish the other person well so you don't really say it or but really like i had seen a lotta struggles that he had had with his relationship at the time and i thought that he wasn't really happy and i tried to help them because another friend helped me get out of a relationship that we couldn't see that we were right for each other in zayn. I was hoping that i could be that for them but they weren't ready for that. So that wasn't my place and you know. I see this in a lot of friendships. Turn into relationships that during that friendship period Whoever is the one being chased is always in this in that position of. I want you in my life but also i don't want you like that so it it. It's weird dynamic. Because the other person's doing the chasing is kind of like well. Am i fully free to date someone else when i'm thinking about you. And you as the one being chased. You're like i don't want anybody else taking away the time that we have together or attention. You're giving to me. Yeah i see that quite a bit. So how did this dynamic change changed I will say that it started in a retreat on. I put together in thailand for the new year. It was all about letting go of stuff from the past going into the new year. Clean slate so i created a whole protocol and we went to thailand. There was really intimate. There's just four of us chris. I saw him as somebody who could be Partial co leader for it. You know it's my first time trying to throw something like this on and it had all these fun activities that are really like deep work. That helped you see yourself in a new light and we did these activities. We did yoga every morning. We went on it venture and then we did these activities in the evening. It was very her found. And i think that was the first turning point of He reached out to me and said you know you're you're you personally. You're not letting you're not being open with me. You're not an opening up. He called you out. He called me out. Yeah and he's never really called me out before. I think you know he wrote a song kind of about it but never really like said you need to be more open with me so it was the first time that it was like. Oh okay well that makes sense. Maybe i need to open up a little bit more. So that kind of put a question mark on that boundary of like. Well how how do we define the boundary trip was so life changing that everybody win on. It had like something that they just let go of and so two. Breakup happened during the retreat. When when we got back from each chris when you said amy you're not open with me. You're not be completely open. What did you mean by that. Well i think that i felt a little bit of. We both have challenges and we have certain types of feelings in the acres that we struggle our whole life around relationships. And i think i felt one of your challenges which was not letting people in very easily and being even know extremely attentive extremely expressive and nurturing. Kind of there was this wall barrier dot. Felt like you wouldn't let anyone inside at all. And i was kind of basically just trying to get you to give me a chance because i always knew that i could prove myself. That was what i was gonna ask. Do you think it was a timing thing that something eugene used or did you just suddenly see chris and different light. Well i had a. I was finally over relationship. I was looking for a new one and because of our friendship i guess part of me was thinking. Well maybe maybe he's a good candidate though it. It made me realize that. Perhaps if there was chance for the two of us. I would have to take it if that was case even just considering it sure. That's that that plan seed. How did the seat grow. Well we both have the different sort of shape gun the actual tournament moment. Where yeah you around. What i thought was what it was. was kind of humorously enough encouraged by a magic mushroom. Shake we add. This franco share a mushrooms usually like alcohol or substance. It's while it was. It was interesting because even though we were so intensely connected with our values and our hobbies we had never been able to really physically light breakthrough numbering. And we've had a couple of the fizzled out. Moment said the really awkward. Where i had sort of been a little too like aggressive in a while so It was that was really hard for us to break through that land. After this one amazing day of like kind of hiking around all day long we ended up sinaga lane like in this chair in the campus. It's the first time you've ever snuggle pretty much. Yeah okay sliver assignment. Good snugly non platonic snuggling. She was still pretty white but it was very. It was very deep. It was it was kind of a breakthrough for me so before this weren't we were utterly that hogs we next one another. Yeah will time. But you've never had like an accidental. Make out session before marina snuggle known. So what happens during the snuggle. Amy do you remember who the day. I remember being really nice but it wasn't as mind blowing for me. I just remember feeling good. So what was the turning point for you. I'll the turning point is i. He actually liked called me out and he liked challenged me. Four was the four before the several so it was kind of like leading up to it. I think so. That's interesting is your by taliban. Must've switch and he must have picked up on that will you are just more. I was exactly so he was a little bit of the green light but it still pretty dim at that point. Yeah it was just. It's just a weird switch. Really you have that wall and then to to like howard a little pinhole. Yup you know so it was like walking towards the pinhole and not really sure you know where those lert lines we're gonna be. It's interesting when you see someone and then when you see them in a different way. I have to happen before where they're totally platonic with sky. We worked on a project together in one day. I swear to you. Just one day. I was like holy shit. This man is sexy. Never had feeling of and you just. I can't even recall what it was. I don't know what was the factor that played into it but just something. It is a slave thing with a friend of eight months. Never gave him thought one day like to move. And i was into it and i don't know what that plays when What really turned it around was huge. Showed more confidence. Yeah when when that door. I think maybe slightly started to open the more. He never really went after me like it was kind of like you know it was just like i can feel the feelings. You know you never really initiated anything. But when things started to initiate i realized that okay this being more masculine and that's sexy to me. That is so such a good point because a lot of times what happens. Says you know you get the the passive yep pat Initiative like hey do you wanna hang out tomorrow or Really liked that dress on creek today versus like can i take you on a date on a ni- tonic. Can we hang out not as friends example just using i remember like the guy like rabbi rarely bar. They held my hand table. And i was like okay. This is happening but like the four weeks aggressive confidence reaction to it. So let's get you the juicy partisan on and we ended this completely turned on platonic. Well only i think it was so. We got back from thailand. And then you're just like in my mind like all the time. And i think i said in an email to you that i felt like my heart was just like bursting at the seams like i couldn't contain it and i was thinking about you all the time And then i think we. That's when the the the the sexting began right texting you interviewed guys individual so good. I think insular. I you had you had Critique that you were having your friends do about your character and and this was an opportunity for me to just like dumb down my heart question for you like before when you liked. Ad were you thinking about her. All the time like you just sent gender. Was this much more intense. Feeling of it well was thinking about her a lot but for me the problem was i didn't really trust my feelings because i had had this happened. In the past other people. I had been in a long term relationship with someone for six years clouds I had had several really intense. Crushes come and go. And i got to the point where i felt like i didn't know what to do with those feelings. My should trust them. If that was just kind of this thing that i should be pushing out enough attention to at all. So that really trusting feelings. I think was a really big break is probably partially. Because you ultra right receptive to it right. He couldn't deny his feelings anymore. Because of the trip it may be doubted all up and we decided say yet. But let's get to the sex. You need to know more. I don't know went you. You said the The evaluation is sent all these evaluations personal. Evaluations of evaluating is a person. Like what i could grow on was really great at and stood out like like something. I don't know it just really stood out. I forget right now. I wish we could look at them again. And i talked about the things that are completely magical value. I talked about your incredible nece and like fearlessness. Like the time that we meet dance naked around the fire burning man when we were just friends and she was like all right. You better go dance naked around the fire. And i was like i'm not going unless you're going like the one thing about this lady. She can't turn down the challenge lens. She's just she's got that warriors spirit that like. It's gonna be like i'm gonna do this. And you were like ones and super bowl and you probably saw the. He saw euchre who you were. Were things that he wrote about me it just it just really turned around in my mind. It was like he sees me in a way that nobody has the appreciates nian away that nobody has ends right so it. That was really one big step. We'll save. Oh friendship in general because obviously it's foundation in like one of the problems with like just going on date after date with people don't necessarily know is that you don't have that down nation she. Yeah so. I think it's important for people to who are trying to get get out of the friend zone to think about instead of telling your crush crush on them which is flattering right. The other approach is to say. I see you in this way and this is why i admire you. This is why. I want to be doing you. Because i see you differently than how other people. Ceo that's a very compelling argument for giving me a chance. And i know you. It's not just a limited to ryo the core of you. And i want to be with that person and obviously you eighties. Beautiful obviously physically attracted. That's already you know baseline but what is it on top of that because eighty could get all sorts of messages from people who tell her. She's great who wants to be with her. Where tracked it to her. But what makes you stand out. And what i'm hearing is christie's you in a different light than other people do so back to the sexting this next thing since you remember at yeah well so there was opponent and then there was kind of like i said i was overwhelmed with these feelings and I think that is psychically. Could feel that you're in your growing interest growing receptiveness other side. And so i started sort of pushing the lines. A little bit with Talking about the you know the the hot shower in the apartments and like and there's lots of stuff that to you basically Insinuating certain things without actually coming out to save them. I was pretty bold at that point. I started to get really strong vibe. That i was gonna go for that. You're gonna gonna go far but your idea. Bold seems to not have stuck with amy because she didn't really remember these sex gig you what did you think these texts What but i just. I don't know. I don't plan to his sexual side of the house from like friends. I've also had friends that. Neil friends that i've literally just advance with that a thoughtful safe way and i can't imagine crossing that barrier so it's definitely a challenge to get over it so i see like kind of by planting that it started to see a different lighting who i think like i remember one where we come back from the trip and i had told you that i was. My heart was bursting at the scenes and everything and then it was kind of just silent. And you're of playing it cool. And i woke up one morning and i wrote this one that just said you know this this whole cool as a cucumber thing would be working great for me. If i weren't ridiculously offering era it was super. It was pushing politics return and and knows the long time reply. All thanks again. Hey how's it going vote. he do. He's excited and how win this happen. When winded this Sexting into real life scenario well We had our first kind of kissing and massaging. Surely the assange i. It was the massage. How did this happen well. It was pretty much ado. Yeah i mean the from the attacks that i just mentioned that was anymore. That's schooling came. After that. And also i said i want to home so is clear at that area. It's pretty stover. The friends from my point of view. I'm still hack garda like it. Didn't really hit me in the same way i think if i like. Were really into him. Super late lake ready. It would have hit me in a different way but the other like it was just kind of like okay. We'll he's being. Chris or you know like like a new that it was Was insinuating and i also knew that i wanted to give it shots to see where things are going and yeah so so then but we're you starting to develop feelings. Yes so it was definitely like once the whispered got in than it was like me. You know like all the little. Maybe things came in. And i think at one one big turning point was he brought me back to his home and on this farm we have this idea about turnage retreat center for years and it just kind of felt like your you go. I don't know like there was just the sense of like this is for you and me like it just like it was part more of this feeling of like we have to do this together and like so it almost felt more like faded and had to just trust it instead of fighting it and i think i've been fighting it since i had met him so it was more of just like being afraid until i have somebody care for me as much as he does yes. It was a lot of being afraid and secretly behind the scenes a year longer. Almost that much before that I had been working on developing this farm. And nothing by ben girlfriend was almost gonna move in with me there which just brought me this massive feeling dread basically that i was really like not that excited about it and secretly i was had these dreams about few drives thinking about you at that place white house kind of you. Were like the queen of this castle. Who has all along so that night when you guys hook up. Let's get to that with massaging gets low romantic and then the kiss hobbits prettier magic. The kisses good. I felt like he got nervous so we just kind of ended. It ended with the kiss so we stopped to think. I don't know if i went home. I really remember but it just felt like got nervous. He's waiting for this moment for two and a half years. Yeah there was a lot of feelings from the past. Rejections of the fizzled out moments. That we have that were kind of slightly traumatic for me where i tried to advance in that yeah. Pse josh so. I was not sure some of those feelings. I was still dealing with them. So yeah so how. Things progressed to being in relationship. Then we went to india. Do i had like list of tests. That i wanted to put it through. Make sure he's a test. We went to kunda lean yoga retreat. I know you're in my favorite place where she cash. That's where i did my yoga teacher training. I took him back to all my favorite places. I think the test was just going through india. Like what what's that like and moving two solid weeks just twenty four hours so we just kind of like. I knew that we had to work it out. And that's where we worked it out by the end of it. We felt pretty solid a. You're in a relationship. We are in a relationship ended veteran but before it was pretty shaky. Wyche i you know like i. I called things off. Like close to valentine's i know i don't want to date you know about this and then you brought me back. You're like just come. Just come to the farm. Let's just start working together. In a way he won is he wants to be with me. No matter what fighting fighting for me for our friendship. He'll be here forever. You know so with that realization. I realized that it wasn't a four psychic fight anymore. So that's what the big turning point was that it felt like we were meant to be together. Did you have any conversations about boundaries or rules of know. They always say we don't. I don't wanna compromise is friendship if we do. Yeah yeah little. I was worried that i was like what you get yourself into. I could hurt. You really bad like we have to try so it was. It was almost like we. There was not. There's no argument. How long ago was this trip. I was in march. And when did you guys get engaged. A birdie two weeks ago so a year and a half later since march of this year a hough guess that's known each other years sat right issues visit in a liberty relationship ever since. Yeah it's a different take. We've done everything backwards. But maybe it's the best way. Obviously it sounds like you guys have travel which is amazing but for people but can't just get up and go to india thailand and whatnot. What are some advice that both of you would have get out of the friend zone or to be. Maybe for you get out of the friend zone for you to link beat open receptive to a friend that might be the one that's in there. The whole time for me the most important takeaway is that ironically enough is finding that eternal connection that is not even sexual necessarily now that as souls and as key collaborators in this life like that really deepening. Enduring friendship in even being able to let go of their needing to be more there needs to be more physical closeness and being in also really continually strive and deep in action as people are projects and our hobbies everything. That's i think. What lousy to get closer closer closer closer over time until it. Just think for me. It's about just trusting yourself and allowing love to happen who wasn't ready to really fully beloved and that a lot of my work was on self love and that helped me allow other people. Love me to know is someone. That's been there the whole time. You've been there the whole time. Yeah some might take aways would be I think use something christie said at one point. You didn't fully trust your feelings. And i do think that people sometimes need to know what they're feeling is. Is this just a a very elementary crush. Which could it could be right. I think she's pretty. I think we get along. That's a crush or is this a deeper connection. Nineteen you're trying to decipher between. Is this just a surface level superficial attraction or is it much deeper and when you finally came upon this idea of you have the really deep connection with amy beyond anything you've experienced before that's when you acted on those feelings right so i think people need to one no their own feelings i before they act and to i would say back to all the clients have had in the past tried to get out of the friend zone. They always tell me well. I look for signs. And she gave me the sign where she liked touch my leg or she returned my text message right away. I would say if you're always looking for signs you're always confined signs that aligned with what you're looking for that always going to be the case so incentive looking for signs you should be looking for looking for signs in yourself that you want to pursue this her said and when you're ready to pursue you should take initiative and you should go for like you were saying with a quote instead of trying to guess like if she intimate today or is she giving you the today to tell her you should just do it. Act on those feelings to say i into you. I want to take the student another level. I don't want to just be friends with you. Because i i see us as something magical the third takeaway i have which i think is the most important one is have a plan of how you want to turn friendship into a relationship with you guys did was go to india and hash out things. You can't approach someone who's been your friend for two and a half years and say hey magically tomorrow let's just be boyfriend girlfriend doesn't happen like that. You have to go to your friend and say i. I really think we can build something beyond friendship. And here's my strategy for us. Let's let's talk about the steps of how we can reach their. How how we can get there. I've been thinking about this and business Mike plan for us in the two of you can talk about you. Know like let's how do we get turn this friendship into beyond a friendship going into a relationship. And i think that for the person you're trying to pursue will show your thoughtfulness as opposed to just. This is just some some random crush right. I think that's a good point too. Because obviously you had a very deep feelings for any wanted this to leash chip but that's not always inglorious. Have the friend zone like my situation. When i was with friends like it became just like a hookup. that was like a friends with benefits situation. Which is just confusing. Not so great. That's like the downside of the friends. Oh not gone. Well but at the end of the day the comes back to why are you trying to get out of friends though. It just like to fill up attraction to someone or as a to really be without person. And if it's really be with that person what you just said of communicating. Having that in the might happen. So here's the question can. Do you believe hetero opposite. Sex friendships can actually happen out totally yet. Yeah i think. I think that they definitely can and that slight edge that may be there always is of the physicality kind of behind the scenes. I think make some very exciting. I don't think it's a. I personally have a male friend that was like a brother to me like we all the time and whatnot and i never felt that i know do not feel that way either so i really don't think there was any sign of it at all just genuinely enjoy each other's company were really good for each other as friends at that point of our lives so i don't think it's always a case. Yeah amy yet. I believe one hundred percents. Neutrons are short and is all about that boundary. Soon as you're ready to break the boundary than you can't be friends. We either one or two things happen flushes or anything but i think thanks to the point of the people like for you that team to it's like even doesn't work out like if you're really have those feelings to someone. You can't really be friends with that. Not be there genuinely want to be friends with them or you have this lingering crush of its laboring crush senator. Just put it out there and see what happens. Yeah and then exit if it doesn't work because you're not authentic friends at that point totally about all about intention. I really don't think platonic opposite. Gender friendships happened at all. I don't believe them. I think there's always underlining some sort of like some sort of a temptation there and it could happen with timing. Could maybe that that mushroom shake could bring something out in some line or a shot of something could bring out something anyway. I think it's the difference of opinion. But i really don't think platonic opposite. Gender friendships can happen. Let's go into question. Only i do have one last question for you in the two years. You guys were just friends. Did any of your friends say amy. You really should be dating chris. Yeah actually known. People were reading for chris. My mom actually over him number one because they will plans and you get. I don't know maybe she just had a crash on on. Nazi loved chris. She was the main person who's always been right about in for me so but also shows that if you're not ready you can't force anything and you weren't ready ready and i let her know that. She said she's happy but she's happy now. Happy new things come together when they're supposed to come. Let's go onto our question of the day. This one comes from melanie. I have a close male friend and everyone says he has a crush on me. I believe we're just friends. Do you think that's possible. And if not how do. I let him down easily. I give all your friends seem to think that he has crush on you. Chances are he probably has a crush on you right. Yeah how. I would go about that. How i went about it with. Chris was just a really honest conversation. Because once you get those feelings and emotions out there when he put it out there than the awkwardness you know. They can be pretty clear on where he stands so. It's all about communication and it really helps. That's what had that's why we have such a long friendship will say though. I think yes your friends. See things that you don't but they also the other way see things that you don't so it depends also like what their opinions are on the men and women frankfurt sample. You're very don't believe that. So if two people were super closing all the time your instinct think that was more going on but if the two of them were people that actually like had the tonic male female friends they may be differently in they also might have different conversations with just each other so i think you need to trust your own instinct over your friends but either way. If you're not feeling that. I think it comes down to like Down in conversation like we're trying but earlier like you're truly friends you can probably get through it but it's like. That was the only motivation him. Being your friend than your nominally yet. But you were never really truly friends only to begin with but how you let someone down who hasn't expressed her feelings yet. It's kind of preemptive attack economy to eat for them to like make a move. But then i don't know that super awkward is now. She's like listen. We can show like be like. Hey all my friends keep teasing me gleaming. You use that to leverage the concert. So but i think it's talking his leg beginning if you also don't like them to be like oh well she's bringing it up. She must have a thing for me right. He's like how do you save. That just opened the conversation but not expected. I asked chris is like. Is there something more you want from me is. There were a friend. Is there more to the friendship that you're looking for. And he was like. Yeah but it doesn't have to be so you like the easy way out Issues really into so she could tell yeah like just site klay from the energy and no you good at being the one to then open up. Yeah and it's about talking like it's harder to say. This is not what happened. But let's say hypothetically. I'm not ready for this to be a relationship do you guys. Do you think you'd be able to stay there. I think that we would because kind of going back to that thing that i said floor. I feel like some really. I think that people people should be able to be connected throughout life deeper deeper and deeper as life goes on regardless of whether they're together romantically or not. That's something that i wanna. I aspire to be dot evolved emotionally to the and i've learned from having friendships with girls blow apart healing. Never talked to ever and because of being so hurt by being rejected and welling up myself. And so i think it just comes out kind of breathing it out learning let go of stuff a not serving you and just really enjoying being her. Buy friendship so chris in your essence receiving end of like. Let's say you put yourself in that role and melanie. Who wrote in the story. She is trying to tell you that she's not really interested. In taking the next level what would you want to hear from our. It helps to be sort of still feel like you're trapped and to not feel like it's a personal attack so that will think of kind of really smoothing out with you know your tractive. Her aunt really nice looking at your one. Wonderful in all these ways of making sure that someone doesn't go down a wormhole in terms of losing confidence about themselves. I think that that's really important and talking more about the kind of practical reasons why it just might not be the right match will think it helps censor could play because i think people say over the like like me as a person but they don't wanna take the next level must be the they're not attracted in may or may not be alec obviously for you as i'm just not ready so i think that's a really good point. Each two women need to have conversations. Maybe i just not meeting all the whole gamut of people eg never heard of the scenario turned around where the woman wants to get out of the friend zone for with a guy front. I've actually never heard of that happening. Endings holiday does four. Yeah okay. I headed guy friend. I wanted to get out of the zone with college. And what did you do about it. Nothing because i was anything harder for. And i think also i was okay. Just keeping his friends to. It wasn't like burning desire that. If i did get a crush yet i guess it was more of a crush muslim. College wasn't involved was harder for women. Because we're not expected to go for ryan. How do you get guide and co for you want you if you make them. It's it's always tricky. I probably like the subtle signs of talk about the men doing that. No one taking on sending these signs that he had no idea. Yeah that's probably what happened. Two years later well. I love hearing the success story. It gives hope to everyone to who is trying to get out of the friend zone and in honor of getting out the friend zone. I know you guys have written songs about your relationship and we get to hear one of those songs today right. Shall we prepare for that. Song is signifying. What part of your relationships. This was in india and this was really what we really got together. I love this was based on a conversation where she will. I was typically. I can get up really early in the morning. And i was oftentimes leaving without saying goodbye and then she would wake up alone and not our. I was still happens. No just when you look for leave in the morning to say goodbye does matter if i'm sleeping waking up. Give me a little kiss surrogate by okay. Okay i can do that. And then my one request was that she say that she's mine forever. so which also rhyme. That's what it came from John wake up surname to own man like owning guys trying to get. Yeah i want to thank chris and eighty for being here telling us her story of getting out of the friend zone. I think it's very inspirational. But also i think it's even if you're not trying to get out of the zone. I had a lot of takeaways just taking that risk. Always look straight power leaving your power. Why should entrusting your feelings lovely listeners. Home of you have stories a you like tell on our show. We love to have your guest on our show. We can anonymous you so we can give you anything you want and on that nose debacle world. Your action item for this week is to know and understand your feelings. If you have feelings for someone try to figure out if these feelings are real sometimes we get caught up in this whole. I really want him or her to like me back that we forget how we truly feel and when you do realize your feelings are indeed real. Come up with a plan to let your feelings be heard. 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Part1 :Marty Mcgee, Randy Bradshaw

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Part1 :Marty Mcgee, Randy Bradshaw

"The. Sirius Xm. Presents. With Steve. Racing and becoming interviews this is. Steven. A Very Good Friday. Race Pants. And two year old in training sale buyers. Day Of. The spring sale of two year olds and got a really. Really good guest. Randy Bradshaw. Read is GonNa join us for a for quick sales report and I think we gotTA congratulate. Randy enthusiastically because he. has sold a pair of seven hundred thousand dollar two year olds. The last couple of days. And yesterday the. Latest not this time success. Colt ten flat. Florida bred. Michael, Peterson. Any sense the ticket for Peterson. Who? Has Really had a steady parade. Of. Successes More spirit that CETERA and This one could be next, not this time. Is The story obviously coming out of this sale one more day, but I think he's got I. Think he's got another four to sell so I'm actually thrilled that we get a chance to talk to him. Today haven't talked to him in a couple of years and Randy Bradshaw course know part of that. Graduating class as it were. Of Horsemen. Out of the the wwl university, D, Wayne Lukas, and of course the famous. The famous photograph that Features. Randy. Marquette. Garin McLaughlin todd pletcher. Dallas Stuart the Wayne and. Jeff Lukas and Randy on this side of the the aisle as opposed to afternoon horses, he's working with babies and one of the most respected developers of young talent. And so we'll get some thoughts he'd had. Only, had really a handful of sellers. Until yesterday late and The. Particularly out of these supplemental. Cadillac. His three big sellers have come out of that supplements. We'll talk them about which and closing out. The sale see what he's going to do with some of the ones he had quite a few. That were taken out of the sale. We'll see what he's going to do with those going to show up at two Monia Mer. Elsewhere. and. Always a treat to visit with Randy Bradshaw. Otherwise it's weekend preview and plenty of it mark. mcghee will start us off. We'll talk about the church election. I mentioned yesterday. kind of was a kind of an epiphany as we look through that. That card. The Friday. Card a very good. Slate today then into the Saturday action that. Includes and actually concludes with the Louisville the grade three. They've got an Icefield twelve. Brian Lynch admission office drew wide but this is a good group, and we'll also include arc, low and Tisza Slam for Roger Rat feel. And more, there's of course the. Cross country pick four tying Belmont and Churchill action will get opinions from everybody, Mardi later, actually our three today Nick Tammaro havoc had a chance to put up. The Knicks Friday New York analysis, but we'll do that. Before. Every? When whatever I get the the two and a half minute break. It's a slip it in and I'll get. It posted at the website and yesterday actually a couple of Gus actually looked at Churchill and had a couple of different scores. and. Got Rebuffed in terms of the Maltese the pick four the pick five when the short priced favourite. Did Not. Come through that a really a garland. Kinda let down everybody in the you know was kind of leaning. She's me on her. But otherwise couple of very nice opinions from Goss that people hope people took advantage of Nick also with a handful of of winners, so we'll get some opinions from nick about the weekend and in addition I'm going to do kind of a hybrid. Conversation, because Brandon Lee from Lone Star. Is GonNa join us, and Lodestar is going to be the first venue to have a contest than onsite contest and. Sunday as it happens, there's a plan. There's a qualifier feeder, but. At the end of the month I think in I think the twenty seventh. If I'm not mistaken, will let Brandon confirmed that they've got. Players come in in for. The contest and I wanted him give him a chance to talk about the protocols and how they're going to handle it so. Brandon Lee from Lonestar and neck will throw in a few opinions about that Sunday card. That is the rescheduled. Texas Champions Day and The the if you're if you recall at Sam Houston, this wasn't this wasn't Kovin. Case where things got cancelled and rescheduled, they had a transformer blow and. It knocked out that whole card and they've got what they get to racism. I think. At Sam, Houston, so they rescheduled it and slate of steaks, on Sunday, at Lonestar, and so nick looked at over, and of course, nick, who does the figs for? For taxes for buyers, and the Sam Houston Morning Line Nick very familiar with the horses that were involved so he's going to. Give you a couple of ideas for Sunday down grand prairie. J. Ribbon of course and Mardi Mardi I. Will talk a little Derby Watch with Marty as well as the Churchill action. And jape ribbon top of our three. More, Derby Watch and specifically. His postscript to the Santa Anita, Derby and Jay has been you know early and often the. Honore! STOMP so. Jay. Undoubtedly you know, be very pleased the way on our AP. Capitalized on the potential and the took that. Step forward. Of course we talked to John Sheriff's. Early in the week, and looking forward to seeing what else Jay had to. Had to say about the big Santa Anita, Derby Day Hollywood Gold Cup. Santa Anita Oaks. Etc. Triple Ben Weekend at Santa. Anita much more subdued weekend of racing at Arcadia the next couple of days in fact, actually Golden Gate should mention the Alcatraz tomorrow as well as the Great Free San Francisco on Sunday Nice Group of eight there the great three. So. Action kind of. Golden Gate a little. Give them a little bit of a little bit of love In addition what am I missing here? We've got Hammer of course admiral swing through probably an hour to and expect to talk to Ron Gear kink from the daily racing form as well because the woodbine. Opening Week. Good start to it and. Tomorrow. Night's Card you've got the woodstock and the star shoot, and interestingly you know get three year old boys three year old girls sprinting, and it just happens that they put them back to back, which is unusual, usually woodbine unless it's. What are the big steak days? Usually they you know they spread the stakes out, so the Woodstock and star. Shoot back to back. And My trump BETTA heavily invested. Any sending up the wife source news to me. A lot of pressure, a lot of pressure on traders and their spouses running it actually one thing. I didn't get to this week and that was sitting on the corner that I think actually. I mentioned that. I mentioned it Maybe I did it in passing but Early in the week was Monday with Laurel had that Monday card. a nice day for. The. Russel's Mr Mrs Sheldon Russell at of course, Britney, Russell and Sheldon and And then. At? Fairmount and I was really appreciative people I must have heard from. Hurt from four or five people. About. Jim Watkins visit and people were really appreciate about and I I thought it was really thoughtful. Just to here for people to express it that they were delighted to hear. Some attention to. Pay To fairmount as as they restarted their season and happy to do it. And Fairmont is going to you know have a whole new. There's going to be a whole new. Generation essentially of. The fairmount the way things are are headed down there and Collinsville, but the if for those of you that are saying well, who's the husband and wife? Britney Vandenberg and Chris and Amy. That are an entry and They had they had a success on. Back on Tuesday At Fairmont, and and actually I I WANNA. Get Britney Vandenberg on I notice. What she's been doing. I. There was the Horse at oaklawn. that. was what fourth or fifth in the the oaklawn steak and she is claimed. A couple of different horses and Have has really moved them steadily up and. WanNa WANNA. Get some background she. She wrote a little bit. and. then. Transitioned to the training side, and she Chris Amy working together, and of course she gets on horses. herself as well and so I started reach out there the other day after the win. And we'll get her on I. I absolutely want to provide A. Little bit of A. Focus on and talk about how she's. Gotten things going and. Slick silver. Was the horse that. Was Fifth. Just pulled up. The chart was fifth in the In the Oakland, mile and acclaim stuck off of Asmussen and. and. She's done this with a few horses, so there were there were a couple of of. You know. There's a lot of it that goes on a lot lottery. STRACK ROMANCE and. So good job by the by Chris and A Brittany Vandenberg as well as the Russel's. Didn't really look at Laurel so I can't tell you much about their weekend. Get to get a peek at. It at some point during the morning. Let's before before we reach for Mardi McGee. Let's talk about yesterday for a minute and I'm going to start with Canterbury. Day, two of the Canterbury meat, and now everybody gets you know reorganizing and re set for next week because yesterday's pick five. got about twenty five percent increase in the handle went up to one hundred and twenty-five thousand yesterday, and then the sequence proved very. Very tricky the trickier than day one. You had a fifth choice, third choice, a sixth choice of fifth choice and a second choice so nothing. He really even close to a favorite. and in fact the favorite in the NIGHTCAP. Was One to two, and you know never even threatened, so there wasn't a favourite to be found. Speed again held both turf and dirt. Particularly on dirt, but even in those turf sprint yesterday you had to be close. You have to be involved, so that continues to be the watchword as we look at next week. But. You had a almost a six to one five to one in eight to one hundred fifteen to one in five to one. Fifty six, thousand, two, hundred and sixty five dollars. Fifty six thousand two winters, that's gotTa be right, one hundred and twenty, five thousand and take twelve to five out. Yeah, two winters obviously. So congratulations to those and this paid. The parley was seventeen thousand, so this paid three times the barley. And yesterday's The the first opening day pick five paid twice the parlay, so the ten percent pick five. Canterbury and we'll look to next week. They've got. They've got the card already drawn and morning, wind and everything for the sixteenth. So you can look ahead that all right. Meanwhile in New York and by the way, thanks to everybody for the concern that appears that that was okay, she she had her kind of her hind end slip out from under on the wet turf and Eric can't sell Kind of you know kind of stood up on her little and thought something was wrong, started a writer again then she slipped any any any just kind of pulled her up, but she seems fine, so she jogged back herself and A. Little mid a couple of minutes of a warm phone at first they were they were. They were GONNA. Call for the ambulance, but then can't sell them off and said No. Okay, just the. Wet Turf so I think we were hoping I. Honestly was hoping that the that was going to come off and the way the rain was coming down yesterday. I thought for sure it was going to come off, but it didn't the rest of the action. How the the the horse that we talked about with Shag. Creed the Honor Code Coal. For the Hudson's. And shook, said he was. He was hopeful that You know that he'd. He'd have a good horse for the For the Hudson's and it looks like he very well may creed second start and the three year old. That was notably. Y- This was A. Six, hundred fifty thousand dollar purchase we. We talked about this the other day. comes out of the excuse me the seven Furlong debut at Tampa. And wins at Belmont yesterday. Beets not just pizza field winds off by seven. Jose Ortiz just have to let creed run and cousin Andrew went favored for. Chad and and Steph. Clark the gift that. Has got some. Quality. About him. He was seven and three quarter lengths back then cousin. Andrew was eight lengths himself ahead of everybody else so these to distance themselves from the field, eighty-seven buyer for creed, and looks like shook was speculating. He's got something to work with here. certainly was bread and and. Priced you know as something. That's something good, so the rest of drug actually have big day. Woman came back and she was able to wire that allowance race. You had Chester town. Get beat and. Chase, than any kind of bolted but our last, the courageous Cat New York bread. Of course it was new. York bred allowance wire-to-wire and it was tough. It was tough to real anybody in on that track yesterday. Moretti for instance also in the stake in the flat out. He wired the field and Sir Winston Chase them home so nobody was making any ground on that sealed track yesterday not that the performances are you know the quality of them are being called into question at all? Let's stay right here and we'll get started on conversations. Marty McGee Good Morning. What are you say they're Bakhour? I'm great and Mardi another weekend of racing on tap for Churchill before we dive into what has gone on the last yesterday and and into the weekend. Let's talk about the what what transpired and that included A. Jaw Dropper from volatile We the Asmussen Tuesday or Wednesday and he was He was. Let's say Giddy. Should have been I mean last year he had the French champion and my totally. And unbeknownst to me. I guess I been around enough because we're all in our houses. Gives me their big You know I I didn't know he's GonNa. Be One two one to five when they went in the gate, so I'm like this is the next great thing and and damn if he didn't prove it, he. Had? One of those real, nice talk and see trips where he just kind of went on about its business from the quarter pole, home and One, oh seven point five seven was his final time. It's pretty swift going three quarters. Point Oh to off the track market CETERA ET CETERA so Like Steve Center, not a powder keg here I would imagine without having listened to what he told you. Running once or twice before work while working backward from the November seven. Breeders Cup sprint, which will be what would seem an ideal defensive six furlongs, an ideal spot keeneland. For him to show, how good! Yes! Sir! Pretty exciting and It just just to get that kind of a fig. I mean you know I it. It's been a while since we've had You know horses posting, you know. We had horses over the weekend post. figures over one ten of a coma in the Carter and volatile with the one twelve I mean this was this was impressive we talked to. We talked to in Wilkes as well and four graces. In the Dogwood and then rather you know rather handily. Yes. He put away a pre night. Philly and I don't know what Ian told you about going to vote, so it seemed like he was a little bit circumspect in terms of. Her pedigree. She's McAfee perfection. That doesn't really shout. Nine furlongs for the Kentucky does nonetheless he's got a good one there and I'd imagine when when it's all, said and done maybe eight thousand, being her type of race, but she. She looked good winter seven day. So well, and then into the weekend, the rest of the action and was watching yesterday. speaking of the Asmussen Barn. We did talk with Steve about thoughtfully the tap it Philly that debuted in the second yesterday Marty and this one sibling of annual report and giant payday and. Nice debut wins off by. Eight widening links. And looking to see what her buyer was yesterday. They checked earlier. See they they weren't done earlier this morning. Okay, oh. Yeah, here. It is sixty four. Okay? He had one got an eighty one I think so. It seems like every two year old grace you've had. Steve has been a mismatch. WE'VE HAD A. Lot of horses, probably a handful of them went off by themselves, so You know like I said last week the debutante and or the Bashar manner are going to be pretty good. Well and in addition yesterday watched watching the the Fox And vintage print Nice winner made a late move under gap Leone This was the curling, Colt for Larry Best and Chad Brown, and it was notable to me in this is This is a cold out of Molly Morgan, who of course del Romans? Helmed and She was awfully. Go to Churchill. Won The fall city and or the Florida so? That was right at the peak of Dale, powers back in about two thousand ten. And That horse ran really good for for Chad Chad. Certainly you're over five spring me with four beaten favorites, but I think now he's about six hundred eighteen. he's back into the Chad group as we speak. Well looking today you got any anything you WANNA slip in about today's action. Well, I mean yesterday. Steve asmussen tied Dale Romans for leading trainer all time at Churchill downs with his seven, hundred, thirty seven win under the twin spires. And then Deo came back race or too late or with horse I thought would win. Barely got beat for the. Horse's name I. Don't hate it here in front of me. He barely got beat by the saying how favorite about the seven three three for any s that you could have gone back and forth on that getting to my point here is that Steve has the favorites it looks like in both the first and second race, so it should be smooth sailing for him From, here on out, so yeah Dale had is two and a half years in the sun and He was saying thankful for that. Obviously he'll. Sable isn't going great guns. These right now so looks like we'll. We'll have some news on that at one or two easterner so today Steve's gone ahead for good. He's got a two year old in the second race. The bottom horses Here. I got picked as my best bad it just kind of open air outside boxing on Human H. U. L. E.. N. for the highly growth of taxes and. That, the temperature called looks like he ought to be the good. Very good all right well. Let's turn our attention then to the Saturday action mart, and it mentioned the two year. Olds I have not done. that. Hold on. I've got to This is this is actually this is the Friday. This is the Friday stuff because I did not expect to look at this slate and then. Next thing I knew the more I look, the more intriguing it got so I ended up. There we go. That's Friday I ended up printing. the Friday as well all right. Here's Saturday let's. Move to this and and this card I. You know obviously will be. Involved in the cross country pick five which uses three races from Churchill in two from Belmont, but even early on. Let's talk about that Fifth Race Marty where you've got An important three year old group. You're going a mile and a sixteenth and I suppose this is something of an audition for bluegrass candidates. You would take It's race five, three, ten eastern. It's a three other, an or to other Dan. Essentially never want three. then only drew five three in a row of short field, which has not been par for the course here. Obviously this meet with all the big fields but Shinnik the fierce who is on our Derby whites top twenty, and by the way we had a lot of changes in the Derby Watch this week with the defections of. Max, field and wells by you and even last week. We seems like ages ago, but that's when Charlton went out with last Saturday. and then shoot. He dropped off with his poor performance in the Santa these Derby, so we got four new shooters on Jay credit or not as On. Our Derby Watch Finnick the fierce US number five in this field five. apparently prepping for the bluegrass it's it's no easy spot here. Kinda like. Art Collector to to get the jump on him, and maybe when this race but Finnick the Pierce one. I told he's he's an easy route for He's part of the field and. In what would be a timely? It's going to be fourteenth, so it'd be four weeks of the BLUEGRASS. Pretty Nice prepped for that. Stop for a minute on we'll. We'll go to art collector in a second, but finished the fierce. This is a benefit to him. Being drawn outside. He's he's had. The occasions where he's drawn inside, and both in that allowance at Oaklawn, and when he was elevated to first, and then in the Arkansas, Derby, where he ran a very solid third behind the doll and King Guillermo and either the the situation for him to not have a left I. Mean to be drawn inside. It's a real challenge, so being outside gives gives Martin Garcia you know lot of work a lot more to work with and less obstacles to deal with? And then we gotta talk about our collector, because it's great for for jury to have an opportunity like this the Bernardini cold, the Bruce Lunceford home bread and You know that allowance. When was exciting Kind of pleased that the Tommy gets a crack with a horse like this. Couple of Martine Garcia, he evidently got hurt this morning. an ankle injury. I'm awaiting word on that from the Publicity Department I actually called his agent J feed or Then get a response, but anyway. MARTINES had a pretty solid winter at Oaklawn, and then heared Churchill and spring. So hopefully, he's just going to be. He's definitely off today. His mouth Hopefully you'll be back. In. Time Tomorrow Right Finnick appears as far as art collector I do like I think he'll go on. You never know the one time he did. Try to turn was on the grass and. It was a real tough race so I'm sure that Bruce and and Tommy jury. You're hoping this. Cold to go on and do it. Shared Sense for Brad Cox. Seems honest enough is going to come back to the dirt and the race at Oaklawn in February. Is Competitive you've got a return to dirt for John's rock for Phil, Simms and Necker, island, who looked early on like? There was going to be something there and he just really. Just seems kind of Kinda stuck in in in second or third year I haven't really kind of still waiting for a next forward move from necker island. Who? Seems aggressively that nine to five. Yeah, I mean he's just been okay. He's been fifth, fifth, fourth and fifth all stakes off here. and. That's pretty good ones with mysterious. Alex George you know going on turn and then. maxine field and you know all that, so he's he. They haven't been afraid to spotting. Let's press into the rest of the card and there's just a little bit of everything looking at late pick four. You've got turf sprint Then you gotta maiden fifty shoved in here with some kind of a mix and match them lightly raced sources, then the first level allowance and Let's stop here and talk about this six and a half furlong group of phillies and mayors. Well number one in the town of Philly. Still Only Form Humbert named myth T to. Three words and On February twenty third, she was like the. Most hotly touted horse I I was down in Florida for three months. At a think, she was the most hotly tattered worse, the whole time I was down there, and it was a wicked race. She was too short. She ended up backing up. Get beat you know half a bowl. And you know so bill. Let's regroup brought her in two weeks and she aired and that she ran a big second. When she came here to Churchill to four. Who of course? Last Saturday one the Dogwood so she's definitely the horse to beat I was saying right alongside of her. Is Brown horse who ran into this fenway last year? She was third. Scott Chad written all over. She's coming extremely well prepped after all the work over the winter at Palmettos at a breeze over the track by bought, so she's in there too, and there are a couple of horses in their. Athletes and Horseshoe off I six. Named scolding and then the horse that actually picked She can't sing. who was terrific here bringing her maiden during Breeders Cup Week when we were all out, in California, and she was a good second in the same kinda raised in a price earlier in the meet for Chris Block, so heck of a one act the. Off. The. Field for the level. A really nice and. You there's. There's A. Couple that we. Haven't even come up What about What about Cherie? I out remanded. You have that came well regarded and So that was yeah. That was the opener one day at Gulfstream when I was there and Yes he was highly cat, and she went from as to I about a quarter of a mile so. Actually can run to. They got fifteen one I. Don't think she'll be that low although. You know you can't bet on them. All and I already mentioned before. Really good ones in there. She's killing the this. This philly is tearing up at Keeneland. Forty seven, four best, the thirty six minute and four best of Eight before that You know it seemed like she gave her a little bit of A. Little took a little little bit of air out of the balloon before gearing or backup I mean she's coming into this hot. That Ben Beck. Windows are all. Very Edge Yours. Did I love it. And and She's got old flame Rafi. Bhairon award by the way. Let's turn to the three. Mr Martin the. Mardi. Let's talk about the. The grade, three Louisville and the mile and a half standard What do we got? A slam one. That's one this what I basically wrote. A slam won this race last year in a field of seven five to two and went wire-to-wire. But it's you know typical of this corona virus year where so many good horses ended up Churchill Down? and. Keeneland it's a deeper field, and that's exemplified no better than the presence of Arklow. The grade one winner, and as we all know ran against the best, he could file your bricks and mortar and. Then earlier this year against do Alpha and the and the pegs of turf. His last two were not very good, but I think the regrouping probably getting well. He had a pretty hard campaign last year for good. You? Know eight to nine months extending end earlier. This year Brad backed off on him and he's been ready to run for a number of weeks. You know with the keeneland cancellation. He's GonNa. Be about even money. A lot of times with the two worst like that day at keeneland where. You know where he wasn't ready for the start. He's not the greatest gate horse and I noticed in the Breeders Cup turf to he was a little, anxious and anti before that race, so the key to him is really having settled at the as in the gay so I think he is and I think he will be He'll. He'll probably all your. In the card multi tomorrow. Anybody else any prices that. Who Else did you utilize it here? I mean it's a pretty accomplished field. Yeah! I've been a big fan of admission like the day that he ran and the I know our city and Brian tattered into the moon and You know he's mostly been disappointing although that run to back. In the MAC dermott against Zulu opera? He took him to Lebanon so. he was extremely disappointing and cold on the board couldn't believe how he was nine to two in the sunshine forever last month at Gulfstream, but Brian Savvy. He texted me, said look I think we kind of took him out element, senator, and just amount of sixteenth race the mountain half. Could hit him right between the eyes so I think he's a deserving second choice. Larry Nice haven't looked too much at the Sunday what's the. Sunday card look like. I didn't either I. Just nothing really stood out to me, And I can't really speak too much. Actually I don't have it here now. You know all the days running together. We're. Shaping in that Maxwell story real hard Wednesday morning, and then of course, the wells by thing happened and. Putting together the Derby Watch and all the other stuff. That's been going around on around here so Yeah, busy times here right now. Finally Mardi. also yesterday and I'm sure I'll bring it up with. Later with Hammer, but the Kentucky downs schedule and details were released yesterday. Six days instead of five I don't know if that was the post, corona virus, compromise or not, if they originally had six, as but as you know, we usually start late late August. kind of coincide with the Ellis Park opening, but anyway they're going. Right after the Derby as a matter of fact, the Monday after the Derby, which will be Labor Day September seven is one of those start off their sixty or give away about twelve million dollars roughly two million a day. Eight bad shake so I think they're hoping for. A lot of the trainers and jocks, the high profile ones to. Count Gear there. early their first week. September around being a Churchill for the for the major races and then. On into Kentucky downs where the Enron, they're not running. One hundred thirty five thousand dollar maiden races course all. This money's for Kentucky breads. but they are going to start the maiden specials at ninety five. The allowances started hundred. Last year, course the allowed to start a at one, hundred forty, but You know everybody's down in terms of that, but You know you look at some of the other tracks in my gosh at. Veritable. You know windfall for for these got to run for that kind of money on there, so it's going to be. Everything got settled out there I mean we. They had a problem with Qinglin shoehorning that weekend. We heads Ellis part trying to figure out giving Keelan their days, and then on the end with the Derby. And then Kentucky down where they gonNA run. It looks like it's all got settled and here we go. Well I got What are we got when we left here? we we go to. Go Tony. Yet to from two weeks from tomorrow to foster in Florida latest. By the way I don't think Monta. Monta my girl's GonNa. Rod but. Almost for sure midnight, be sue and. Certain Getty, empress, though just so long it's GonNa, make it and then the foster. You'RE GONNA have. Tom's they tie. You'RE GONNA have by my standards and and number of other. Nice Nice all right, so it's going to. It's going to finish with a flourish Marty. McGee Kerr McGee everybody and Will will play out the string. Marty start to look toward Ellis and Keeneland what a funny thing to say. Good weekend buddy thank. Marty McGee everybody We'll stay here and Casey's going to bring up Randy Bradshaw. We'll take the break at the top of the hour before shape ribbon joins US and Let me. Put this away the Churchill. Action I think I think I'm going to end up. I'm going to end up making the Churchill card the central. Focus tomorrow and and then fold in the. The two races from Belmont that are going to be. That are going to be part of the. Cross country pick four and we'll go over that the in and it's. It's an a pick five I should say it. It's details and I'm just pulling up the. Specific. Randy Bradshaw in the background. Everybody. Randy, good morning! Steve How are you? How am I I'm fine and forget me. How about you seven hundred thousand dollar, Randy Bradshaw. Sometimes you get lucky I. Think Sevens, my lucky number. Tell you the truth. We We don't live for seven hundred, so that worked out while also. Pretty plenty, it's pretty funny, too. You know an and interestingly and and one of the things that I. Thought was a subplot to this. These were both out of the supplemental cabin catalog. Explain how you adjusted to the whole. You know the whole pause of the two year old in training sale season. Right well, you know it what happens is those horses. I'd eleven horses FLAVOR TO GO DOWN TO MIAMI? And they were some of my very best sources, and then the Miami sale canceled so Luckily lovie s opened up their. Catalog for June and so we were able to put him in supplemental and. Gosh. It worked out well. I I asked. I talked to Joe Apple bound the other morning, and I asked Joe. You know how it worked for him because. You know the schedule that somebody like you that. Has Got. yearlings are being pin hooked. You've got a certain schedule in mind. How did it help you or you know help certain horses or or hurt? Some Morse's in terms of you know the extra couple of months. You know that the hard part is these horses. Once you've got tuned in. Just buy a cow been at the racetrack once they're ready for racing their tuned in, and then that race of going. You GotTa wait another three four weeks sources. They waited two months. It's it's. It's a little difficult. It's hard to hold him. You have to back up on them a little bit and hopefully keep them on the ground because they are. You know they're like lacking chip the ready to go at any second so when you have to wait that much longer, a little tough. I will say that some horses give them a little more time to mature if they were a little, physically immature. That you two months so hurt with some, but probably help with the one. let's talk about the two. The two big sellers at the end of yesterday, and and at the end of course of losing track days a Wednesday and start with the start would not this time randy, and how quickly did you latch onto not this time, or or was this? Just an individual colts? That you know during the the you know the fall that you just caught your eye. Right well, you know. He definitely caught my eye. He's he's a big horse. He's take like the doll. He's probably sixteen three now, which is a lot bigger horse than I normally buy I usually say the medium sized horses, but but he was so athletic and such a good move and coal. You know on the Shank that I thought Gosh you know I didn't know much about the site at that time and I thought you know it's hard to buy a horse that big. That sat athletic federally in the years, so we took took a shot, and then consequently know not says times doing well and I call Dale Romans who trained not this time and In two Dale I said Man I. Really Think I got a good one here. And he told me the most talented horse. He thought that he ever trained and. That's very good horses. So you know I told him I said I. Think this horse is going to bring a lot of money. I think somebody's going to have a lot of fun. What they meant and so that worked out well, you know you know. They told another one here for a million three a filly by the same sire, he had three starters to winters, so starting out on the right foot and Made farmers here. They stand him and they were just thrilled with the outcome of fail and the way these things are running track. As part of the decision, making process to follow up questions about not this time and about this Colt, specifically a coming out of a put it back. Maher that when you must have looked at the catalogue. You know! Didn't have much of a produce record. How does that fold in and to your decision making process, and then the giants causeway in your experience you know in prior years and you know on an ongoing basis with with giant's causeway. Are you looking for? A similar physical prospects or again is it all comes down to an individual. Don't come down to an individual like three athletic I'll tell ya how athletic we've worked when we got him home. We put him in a small paddock at two guys out there. We give him a little tranquilizer because I didn't want him. Throwing Brits are notoriously new place to run through fences and stuff so. But he trank him. Put Him out there and dropped, said Nate, congrats suddenly start jogging around chugging around paddock, and they jogged up to a five foot gate and Like it wasn't even there. I was sitting there in my doing watching horses trained. I bought a heart attack, but but he cleared it and come out of good and so I knew theft. Athletic. He wasn't gonNA make a racehorse. He'd be a damn good jumper for sure. But You know it You know I broke and trained a lot of storm cats when we were when I was Wayne Lukas in. overbrook farm, and you know the thing about them there. They were notoriously horses that had. suspect throats a lot of times. They just blaze. They're soft, palate a lot, and so you always worry about that with that giant's causeway storm cat line, and but luckily like said the source, having airway and You know you checked all the boxes for most of these guys around here, not I again. I was very complex going in that We're getting done for a good amount of money. Unbelievable and and I you know what you pay. what you pay for him in the fall two hundred for him in July last year. July. A. That's been. That's a topic actually in itself and you know the. Not The two hundred is is a you know a huge price on the Pin Hook Front but address that a little bit randy because that has been you know that has been kind of a a shift in the in the marketing when it comes to pin hookers that are willing to pay you know big six figure numbers now with the expectation that they're going to get seven figures potentially you know the the winter? Y- well. You know that's kind of the market is right now. If you know last year, we stepped up. You know I usually average maybe close to one hundred thousand dollars horse. Last we stepped up to a little over two hundred and the teaming being that That's where the markets have if he if you get lucky and you find a good one and he. You know jump through hoops and works fats, and they're very athletic. Good looking horses. You know there's a lot of money at the top. A lot of these people now are getting together and forming partnerships. You know people with a lot of money and that way it costs the risk risk down a little bit by three or four five guys going in on a horse and they can spend more money, so that's where games spent for the last few years and so we thought we'd step it up last year and spend a little more money to get a little better horse and see what we can do, and the honestly. Steve I sold some good horses We have a philly couple of years ago. We we for seventy, thousand and We run it through. The sale didn't get sold. My told the client I was part on right. Let's just keep her. I said I think she's a quality philly and tickling seller. When she three racetrack. Consequently, she wanted the grade one ashland, and we sold it for two point one million. So you know someone part about our game compared to any other business in the world, you can get very lucky. One day was something. He didn't spend a lot of money for so I. Enjoy in part for me. Is the by a little cheaper horse and them for a lot of money. And and that begs the question, randy and I probably have asked you this over the years before, but. Talk about talk about the satisfaction for you doing what you're doing as opposed to the opportunity that you could have taken and could take it any time to train horses for the afternoons. Here's the thing you know. The the afternoon thing is is so much fun especially. If you've got really good horses, Stephen You know those days. Breeders Cup Stays Kentucky Derby Days I mean. There's nothing like that feeling I mean it. It just never goes away. It's so much fun, but the daily grind seven days a week and trainers don't get a lot of credit, but when you get up in the morning at three o'clock and go to work and get home at seven eight o'clock at night, but quiet it. It's a grind and after about. Thirty some years at the racetrack I said you know I I, just need more of a life than in, and then what we're having so anyway. We got a chance to move to cal. Teach Synon-, and and eventually I want to work for Frank Stronach for a few years, and it was a lot of work because we get a lot of numbers, I mean We probably average two hundred seventy yearlings year. Gives me with When we were astronomy, we'd probably broke three hundred and some yearlings a year it that that's a job in itself, but I enjoy babies because I get to watch them develop I. Get to send him out the track and I get to watch trainers win with them and believe me when. I'm off the couch. Yellen screaming just as hard as I am and. Training at the racetrack, so I get a lot of fulfillment and a lot of joy, just watching these young horses go the track and do well. Well a couple of other notes Randy Bradshaw with us and randy with a pair of seven hundred thousand dollars, sellers, and also had A. Two hundred and change as well This was a violence. Philly and violence is just been resurgent after kind of a one year. Lol, the violences are are hot again. Two hundred eighty thousand to the classmates Eddie police picked that one out when ten flat. This was again another part of the supplement A. Before I ask you about the ones that'll sell today let's mention the empire maker cold as well this one out of smart farming, and it was so funny yesterday, the I was talking to Gary Young and we were hitting some of the highlights. And I start farming. I'd seen her name, and it was top of mind, and then I realized that she was rocketry Dan and I had handicapped yesterday's Card and rocketry in that flat-out and so. You know smart farming You know certainly notable and rocketry. You know a A. Great at stake winner talk about this empire maker Cole. Also Davies Probably Sixteen to hip limb, different kind of court, maybe not quite as much speed, but he's a. he's a cold. It'll definitely run a mile and a quarter mile and a half you know pedigree warranted and physical and watching him train every day. Warrants that he would be that kind of cold, so you know everybody's looking hopefully to get a derby horse, you know or horse, it can you know. Get a mile inmate molly quarter and he was definitely that kind a horse like said he'd probably maybe not quite as quick, but for a horse with that size and By he was quick enough up for sure. Mike Shannon bought him. He went for for a horse. As you're describing for a big horse, and that's what's so amazing about the not this time went and ten flat. The empire maker went and ten in one You know isn't going to have to do that. The rest of his career, but Mike Shannon. Signed, the ticket for Russell welched. We know where where this colts added. He's going to UH. Mike, tell me I not sure what training they picked out yet, but Mike's spot, a lot of good horses over the years and he, he just thought who's now saying coal and the guy that he bodied fours out of Tyler Texas. Really Nice Guy met him here and I think my quiet, which is a guy named bill map has been you know many guys sit in the race horses for awhile to Mathis, brothers and stuff from Oklahoma City or good good as it gets, they have they sponsor rates in Santa Anita's maps, smile and stuff. Yep, and they're probably is good of people. You'll ever meet in your life, and you know quick note. Note on that I I always tell people. The horse part of this thing is fun, but the people you meet our second to not a lot of times. There's some characters in this game gotTa Watch out who you're playing and dealing with, but there's some of the best people in the world in this business and I just enjoyed the association dog time, but anyway I think you'll. Mathis is going to take a piece of that cold, probably a quarter, a lay on him, and and stay in that much confidence we had any man hopefully goes out great. Thanks to both of them. Led Me also read the asked about today's sellers and you. You were not afraid to grab some some other first crop. Types as you're, you're going to sell van Vancouver Philly today, hip, nine, ninety two. You've got a air force blue who has had a very good sale hip, thirteen o one and also your last seller. A spite stir Colt that. Went Nine and four. Despite certain one of my favorite horses all year. He's probably been my fastest horse all year. Even though I did have an instant Michiko nine and three here, but. But he's been probably my favorite horse all year he's. He's extremely quick, very athletic very good. Look horses again. He's another horses gone up to be probably sixteen hands, which is picked to that spice down family but He's obvious as because good nap. What courses you can look at it and I think. I think we can sell him pretty good today. the Vancouver phillies out. We took her out yesterday Burger Corporation, they're going to tend to the track in and raise her and then. But? The airports blue You know my top three tires this year where air force flew fighter, and not this time and all of Cyrus. Look like you're working out. But Air Force blue. Is such I think he's going to be such a good sire. Steve He more tried to get five of their all mayors, the Nayoan the Salman, they couldn't get five of their own mirrors into him the other day that it's kind of the puzzle on on WHATSAPP Horse, but this phillies again. She's a nice talk. Philly. Great walking great minded silly, if if I actually catch back for some reason I I would be. I would love to have her go to the racetrack, and you know also eventually I think for a lot of money because she got that much quality, but we'll see what happens today, but I do love that sire for sure. Got Asked to about the American Phero. Colt out of Dancing Trieste. This is a really interesting family. I mean this. This feels like this feels like a colt. That might be able to do almost anything. Eight. He's the quality horse since you know I'm always very honest up front with people, and they come to look at horses. If you look at his pedigree, it has a lot of turf in it, and the American Pharaohs of doing very well on her again he he's he's very indicative sire he he looks like you daddy so much got the same temperament. He's the kindest nicest source to be around and I i. think he's going to be a tremendous resource and you know we had to catch him back. He's in partnership with one of my longtime owners Commonwealth stable, and then we wouldn't be afraid to raise him. We think that much so. Well. Those? Is that at the the Air Force blue? Despite stir American Pharaoh. You took the violence out and is there. Oh, the camp theros Philly and their Malamud Philip. Yes she's the mouth among phillies out share, little injury in track nothing major, but so we took her out sales. The cancer is home bred of colts, neck, stable, fan, Tooley and and night Philly, very very good-looking Philly medium-sized, probably worked well, and so we're hoping we can gets her soul for colts neck people. Very nice and that second dam The Damn of warriors were ward so nice page, and then ran the among the other outs, and and the ones that you withdrew You got anything going into Monia. More down the road or how you package the remaining. specs we were GONNA go to Colonia, and then we figured that we only have three or four left. That were GONNA, go to tomorrow NEOM, and then of course they they wouldn't. say whether they were gonNA have a sale or not for a long time, and so we cross entered back over the July. Oh, BS sale. And We just we had to cover our bases. Just in case they didn't have sale Maryland, so we cross entered here and consequently we decided to stay. Here I've got a very good quality road chilly and a very good go. Saffir cold in that sale so hopefully you know we can get him here in one piece and can get those sold in July. Well, Randy It's always a treat to get some time with you, and it's always time well spent congratulations on what obviously has already been a great sale. Good luck today, and we'll look forward to catching up again soon. Continued success. I appreciated a lot. Thank you. Not at all Randy Bradshaw, everybody as respected Horseman. a doing whatever he does and dedicated to getting young Orson started. And you know certainly buyers. You know the. 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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - July 12th 2019

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - July 12th 2019

"Originating from our Jimmy Johns of Lexington studios welcome to the weekend stakes preview presented by Naira Bets Sister Charlie swings up on the outside Eh stretch and it is ultra brandon brunt sister charlie on the outside Hooks Moore's given way trying to get re-involved as a raving beauty and then continue money honey but it's ultra brandon front close to home from sister Charlie coming going down to the sister Charleen Math Nail Donald Trump Ratna my stride Diana raving beauty was stirred hit one forty six point two six now. Here's Anthony Stabile Bill and Judy Feld good evening everyone welcome to the weekend stakes preview presented by nervous here on the horse racing radio network on the big a Anthony's to be oh I am at the SPA outside a section to be right right between the sixteenth Paul and the wire down and our Jimmy Johns of Lexington Broadcast Studios is the positive of the pick four jude feldman our producer Chanel catch. Oh eleven stakes in all including the first grade one of the meet the Diana Saturdays at Saratoga presented by visit Barbados Dot Org Return Tomorrow Sirius X._M.. One fifty six at five P._M.. Mike Barron. I have that coverage but I will get you set for the weekend and all eleven stakes that we're about to bring you what's happening jude. Everything's good <hes> sunshine today hopefully a little bit better weather situation that we had yesterday. That was a nightmare but I had to be here in Nice races on tap. Yeah lots of good steaks will go all over the country we here at Saratoga for a couple <hes> two year olds in action the colts and geldings in the Sanford we got the Diana four stakes at Arlington as millions day is less than a month away now the Delaware Handicap Elat will try to build on that women the Florida Leah Churchill downs and rattled some cages and make some noise in the distaff division this year will head up to would mine and many moons ago gold you game winner was undefeated. It was the favorite for the Kentucky Derby. They'll look the refined his winning form and get his first win in twenty nineteen in the Los Alamos Derby out at Los Alamos later on tomorrow after a couple of steaks tomorrow night to Indiana Oaks and the Derby outed Indiana grant if you WANNA play along head on over to narrow vets dot com to open an account that two hundred get two hundred using H. are n two hundred head on over the air but it's dot com get yourself on the counter. 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I tell you about during that blood horse news update a little later on in the program all right jude. What do you say it's opening weekend? Let's get right to it the two year olds we'll take center stage here at the old spa earlier in the day. We'll have have taped coverage recorded coverage. They'll use tape anymore. We'll have recorded coverage of the Grade Three Sanford later on in the show during Saturday's at Saratoga tomorrow field of five set to go to post this station was loaded loaded on paper a week and a half ago had some two or three key injuries that have shrunk this now down to a field of just five Doug O'Neill's ship in reaching whiskey his four left trounced raging whiskey in their debut. The source came back less than two weeks later to break his maiden impressively private purchase Doug O'Neill has him now hobby Castellano they already teamed up to win the Schuylerville on opening day with comical. They'll try to go to the to the two year old steaks thanks to start the meat yeah absolutely and I see no reason to pick against raging whiskey. <hes> this is kind of been a good play Doug O'Neill ship in New York so I'm all in favor of it. I'm glad he's at Saratoga. I'm glad he's already <hes> off the Schneide and and headed to big things so <hes> <hes> yeah I took raging whiskey on top. I took by your side second. <hes> got the outside post in Iraq. Did he ran good news debut in the favorite which I don't really understand why Coochie is the favourite but Katina's the favorite so that won't happen. It'll be raining. I can't imagine I would think he's going to be even shorter than he was. You know going in so yeah. He's He's a nice horse and obviously <hes> been racing against tough company so gotta go with raging Whiskey. Yeah I'm with you. <hes> the one of my five full time part time time gigs up here at Saratoga this year. I'm back in the Albany Times Union taking shots at my man Timmy Woken <hes>. We always have a good time in the bankroll beat down the he's the bet raging whiskies the basket bet for me tomorrow. I think he's just a good <hes> you know. Four left laugh was very very good. In the tremont Belmont stakes racing festival in eight four left trump's this horse in this horse came back to win like I said very quick turnaround and now he's winning with Doug for a while and he's been in New York he actually he had a breeze on Belmont. I think he's good and like you. I think by your side there was an impressive debut for nearly down at Churchill downs <hes> he looks like the likely likely are up in here but it's all about reaching whiskey. There'll be a lot of drank all these especially raging whiskey in race number three degreed three Sanford again Saturdays at Saratoga present that my visit Barbados Dot Org return to the Horse Racing Radio Network tomorrow starting at five P._M.. Mike Beer and I have the coverage Sirius X._M.. One fifty six horse racing radio dot net the Diana grade one half million on the line six phillies manager goal mile and an eighth the narratives getting old we know Chad Brown. Has Four of them deal with it already. I really can't take it anymore. I had a little bit of a meltdown on the week on the Brisbane Dot com call in show this week about it. Why don't we just appreciate these sources for what they are? Not who's training them <hes> because we have three really nice phillies and and all the different running styles rushing falls you gotta figure it'll be forwardly placed <hes> you have home rico figures to be somewhere in mid pack and you've got the defending champs sister charlie she was a nose shy from being undefeated last year <hes> a headshot rather for me on the feet of this last year she won this Diana along with three other greed ones at three different distances enough to get into the eclipse award. She makes her first start. Since that mild upset in the Breeders Cup Filly Yeah Well Chad's got four Peter Brand Scott three and there's two four time grade one winners and and that would be rushing fall and sister Charlie so regardless of the owner trainer whatever for <hes> for grade one wins is impressive. Those are the two phillies in the race. I think I think rushing falls gonNA run her usual top race <hes> and I think sister Charlie if if she's dead fit and ready to roll she'll be along <hes> in it'll be close race at the end but <HES> <HES> I took rushing fall on top sister Charlie second based on the fact that Chad's Chad's returners haven't been clicking as usual and sister Charlie's a closer and it's really hard for the closers to get their timing down in that in the first race back so I gave the lean to rushing fall but if sister Charlie when I wouldn't be shocked I love one of the Chad Brown's the Anamar and guess what it's neither of the two you mentioned yeah. I think I know who you like Capet. I love homeric tomorrow against standard. I think she slow wow on the way I don't like rushing fall. I think rushing falls going to get some pressure for Mitchell road. I'm wondering what by does now Chad's run. If I east in a spot like this in the past it was in the Beverley D. last year. Everybody assumed she was going to go to the lead and she was without chance. Well you know what she almost took them wire to wire. Last year got beat less than two lengths enhanced her value probably three three times just getting that grated placing in the grade one. She came back. She didn't run well at all in the Breeders Cup and then last time in the plenty of grace. You know I thought again she was going to lead but she's just not fast enough. I think if she's on a send. would she could very well be. I think there's going to be some pace in here. I think it makes rushing fall vulnerable Utah you spoke about Sister Charlie and how the Chad horses haven't been returning at full strength if you will. I think that might change here at Saratoga. I think these sources might be a little better prepared. <hes> or the very least better is probably the wrong word. There may be more fully prepared. I love homework third off the layoff I think the mile and a quarter stretched her a little a little bit last time. Even though she's one of those distances overseas I think here maybe as as the racist unfold a little quick more quickly. I think the mildly it's going to hit all right between the eyes. She has the recency overseas the charlie she has. She's more tactical and won't be unle- like rushing fall. I love homeric stepping up and running the best rate. She's ever tomorrow uh-huh afternoon in the grade. One Diana really really looking forward this Diana tomorrow afternoon. 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Tell you what last year she was three to five and and three to five with stealing money you're not stealing money at three to five and I'm a big Fan of hers but what you got some real hard knocks in here. Escape clauses showing up blue prize was just the length and a half behind her last time. Joe Bravo is going to pick up the mount back on her. They won their <hes>. She won't her loan grade one with Joanna back in Spinster last year and interesting all of the Delaware Handicap Yeah it's good race. <hes> Elat kind of returned to her best form last time out in the floor deletion was lucky to win however because hobby are Cassiano couldn't have written blue price any worse <hes> you know she's getting two pounds to blue price from a late now. That's gotTa help her. A little bit Joe Bravo gets along good with our Avi are just fought with this philly the whole way and I don't know why I don't know what the reason was. He he <hes> he certainly could have just let it run a little bit and I think she would have run much much better but hey I wasn't riding. <hes> easy mentioned escape clause. She's a Nice Philly. She runs big races on occasion. I think <hes> the Phipps was maybe a little too tough for her. <hes> but you never know about those things <hes> I I like. I like Blue Prize and a late I mean I I really think that's that's the race it could could could be the same result as last time or blue price could turn the tables. I'll tell you at the morning line prices. I don't I mean I would have to bet on Blue Prize at seven to over seventy five three lay especially based on what I saw that night yeah curious to see how this odd board shakes out <hes>. I like late like you I think the only filly or Mare <hes> that can beat her as Lou prize escape clause. I'M GONNA be honest and this isn't my east coast bias coming out. I just think that you know I know she ran okay though she ran well local onto midnight zoo but those phillies on the west coast <hes> they're a little they're notch below these I think and yeah that raised him in Ibiza was fantastic. I also worry about that reach. Maybe knocked her out. It could have very well knocked her out. You know she's five. It's been she's run thirty two times. She may have needed a little more time to rebound from that effort which was easily. The best effort of a career and I wonder now maybe she's feeling feeling the effects of get yourself into a knockdown drag out with the leader of the division <hes>. We'll see we'll see I think it's a lates race solutions a perfect for to Delaware <hes>. I think that's an edge over bloop rise and we'll see if he'll get his fourth Delaware. Handicap see Philip can defend the title tomorrow reached number eight down in Wilmington Delaware up at woodbine great three Ontario Hatred Mile and a sixteenth on the surface fill them eleven here yeah. It's a big field. It's a it's a deep field a lot of contention <hes> I had to study this race longer than I wanted to. Actually I decided added to go with the number eight Katie Baby <hes> a daughter a Kirwin who's stretching out after after two sprints <hes> she stretched out last year in the Bison City at <hes> Woodbine and got beat the neck. She ran a great race day. She's a little older now probably a little bit more savvy <hes> she's had to raises off the comeback once she went wire-to-wire first time out and then came from off the pace last time to finish second the silver sticks with her. I think that's important and Catherine Day Phillips. I would be lying if I didn't say that. I was rooting for her. She's she's become a good friend and a friend of H._R.. And I always like it when she's gotTa live when I think this one's very live so <hes> but you could you could pick a bunch of phillies in here and I couldn't argue with you. There's there's a at least half a dozen and maybe more that that could win this race. I like Miss Momentum. She won the trillium last time off of a two month break in a return to the Peter. I think she has excuses when she was the seventy two favorite be twenty links in this trillium last year. We didn't see a for a couple of months through almost three months and when she did she got beat by eventual rediscover fillion their sprint winner she one time stakes winner over the course. We're recording this show. <hes> Thursday Friday afternoon rather during the Marianna Rivera <hes> celebration. Here's WHO's going to be inducted into all things you hear. Enter Sandman in the background of Mariana just got outta the truck and it's really cool right now. Even on the diehard mets fan anyway like this like admits momentum -Tario Matron tomorrow afternoon up at would mind goes race number eight Arlington is a big preview day card for the millions day in about a month and start off with the two from three year olds fillies all mile and a sixteenth Jack Sisson the only stakes reselling the car. Jack is not represented Jack Scott Forces in the other three stakes. He'll be a guess on the Equine Forum presented by Kentucky Downs Tomorrow Judo Join US but it'll be highlighted by president and the King Nyra President and C._E._O.. Dave Oh rock and the king of Saratoga when I say Saratoga one person comes the mind and that's Angel Cordero Junior and Angel will join us live onsite. David Angel both live on site here tomorrow morning so I'm really looking forward to that how to F- really liked you well. I made this Philly <hes> my best bet when she made her American debut at Canterbury on June the twenty second and she finished fourth beaten two and a half links at day didn't have the best of trips lacked room at the three sixteenths sixteenths finished willingly. That's the chart description <hes> and that's number eight Spectra Light <hes> I think she's going to improve. She's put blinkers on <hes> although it says she wore blinkers in her last start art so I don't know if that's true or false but either way I like her. I think I think she's got talent. She had a good racing post rating <hes> coming into her last race so we know she's got some ability. This is not a deep field. <hes> <hes> I thought Princessa Carolina <hes> Carolina has probably the right way to say it. Since it sounds like its Spanish name Princess Caroliina <hes> Kennedy mcpeek Philly she ran eighth Nathan the regret <hes> but she was wide and you can't go wide in turf races and expect to do any good that race was a mile and an eighth. I think this race suits are a little bit better and she'll have a a nice stretch kick Chris. Amy Takes the call <hes> she's at three chimneys farm philly so you know they have respect for her. I like Indigo. Jin Knows Chevy undefeated on turf. She got beat in her debut. When wire-to-wire Hawaii Tampa next start tried the all weather at Arlington before I went hardy put back on the turf? She survived on the lead again as she's been forwardly placed in all of us starts but I don't think she necessarily needs the lead. <hes> she gets a ride a change to fluffy improtant here. He's pretty aggressive. He's either aggressive or white. They'll be just aggressive in here. I don't see a lot of other speed. <hes> hopefully just puts into go jin on the Bill Daley see if we can get Indigo Jin flag faulted. That's all I would use Delta's kingdom a little bit. She didn't have a great trip in the regret from Belmont Adam biscuits climbs aboard <hes> maybe if the speed comes back she'll be come Shokhin Paulin Jigsville one metex spectra light make sense and maybe even <hes> ambassador Luna on the far outside to sprints to a route. We'll see if this daughter brethren he. She should have notes trouble handling to turns a little bit of a long shot. Look for me but Indigo James and my top pick and respond to all right halfway home. We come back. We'll stay at Arlington. We got three more stakes for you in the Chicago Land Area. You're listening to the weekend stakes stakes preview presented by IRA bets here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Rebecca's online horse racing and betting with Arabesques. 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She looks very tough to be <hes>. She's got the best her figuring the field is coming off two victories one better than the next and <hes> you know I I couldn't pick against eastern here Brad Cox doing a fine job and <hes> this phillies on a roll so I let you know I love the now who are. She's the now horse. I think if there's <hes> philly she has to worry about it simply breathless. He's also two for two in this country. <hes> she's got a lot of talent. He's trained by Neil Drysdale. She gets the services of the Great Flavian Pratt who's written both of our other starts. <hes> I think <hes> that's a great sign. That Flavian is making the trip to ride around. <hes> you know she's going to be tough but I think it's two horse to Philly race is it mayors affiliated Amir or two phillies to phillies so to Philly race. Ah I don't think I disagree. I mean they were both really good. You know vexatious makes our second start for Jackson will be on the program who I'm GonNa talk about <hes> because she's interesting into me. You know she's tried these marathons now. This is kind of a weird tween or distance cutting back to the mile and three sixteenths. She got beat less than four links to home Rican competition by years <hes> semper Centene the end. She came back to win the river memory. She was third that they so a little bit of a key race if you will she's just really kept some good company. I I'm GONNA take a long look at her as well <hes> but yeah simply butlers perfect in this country trey just like Julie Foxtrot Juliet Fox Charlie. I should say they're the three for me. <hes> also wouldn't be surprised if Aruba Maroubra for Cherie Deville L. ran well on the inside but Juliet Juliet Foxtrot simply rebels look a little faster and I think there's a little more upside with vexations. I'll go ahead and make vexations the top pick and use those three fillies and Mares I mentioned vexatious lukewarm lukewarm tepid selection for me and reached number six and only the great three modesty race number seven the grade three Arlington Handicap same mile and three sixteenths distance as they get ready for the mile and a quarter Arlington million where bricks and mortar awaits good luck everyone good luck with bricks and mortar waiting view the great day makes his second start in this country country foreign although a core coming off some <hes> form in his native Argentina Nacho Quattro Got Royal Artillery in here. I don't know why brought up that ores. I just think I wanted to say Nacho Quattro aw this is an interesting race here yeah well. Nacho quattro also has l._p.. Caro in this race in L. P. Caro is a fine horse who did not get the best ride sounds like I'm picking on Havi of year but <hes> this horse I mean if you if you watch the replay this race you'll be. You'll be surprised <hes> this horse can really run. I've seen him train in the morning. <hes> I know he's doing good God he. He looks fantastic. <hes> as a matter of fact I believe Nacho posted a picture of him walking to the track at Arlington this morning on twitter. He's a beautiful horse champion in Chile <hes>. I think he's very very tough in here. I think <hes> Jose Valdivia is a good writer for him. He's son looking at lucky out of the SCAT. Daddy's got Murugan pedigree <hes> I. I really like him Saturday. Okay he'll get on him. I'm hoping that we get like five to one I we and we might get all that. He might be even bigger. I don't know I don't think he's going to be over bet because people are going to look at that. They're going to say Oh Cassiano road. He didn't run that good. It must not be all that you know <hes>. I think it's a it's a really phony Baloney me line if you scratch that line and look at his other races you know he's never worse than second. I mean and I realized that you know it was a great to and all that stuff it wasn't it wasn't <hes> so tough that he couldn't compete in there. He just had no chance the answer at any point in the race to win no chance and he trained good going into that race but he's trained better since so <hes>. I think he's tough. I agree with you about the Great Day. I think he's going to run a a good race in and I looked at captain captivating moon a little bit taking the blinkers off <hes> he doesn't win a lot of races but I think the Jackie Changed Carlos Marquez is going to help them. Albacore makes a Lotta Sense. I think the great day he's getting a rider upgrade to fluffy and I think he makes a lot of sense but you know what the Prince of patients say right. There's not a lot of speed signed on there. I wonder if Valdivia gets a little more aggressive. What Alpa Caro yeah he'll be up? Closer no question yeah right. I mean I would almost expect it to happen. <hes> with that said I also think because of the murky pay scenario Botswana though he looks a little slow but then he got include Botswana he's run five times on the turf. He's never missed the board. He's got two wins. I really liked this Mitchell morals arrive or two. He seems to know where to be and I think tomorrow to place the beefing him. It's GONNA be forwardly placed if not on the lead they may just give this to him. You know Jackson's Baez same thing and this is a very very interesting race. <hes> I played pick four. I'm probably GONNA do a little bit of a spread job. <hes> I'm GonNa Make Botswana topic because I can't stop myself from horses that are gonNA be replaced speed horses but you can make a case for four or five different sources. I think it'll goes race seven grade three Arlington Handicap. We'll wrap the Arlington stakes action with the grade three American Derby. It's an amount of sixteenth prep for the Secretary Atari. We are Jude de- prevalent amount of sixteenth. They're going on the secretary of the mile this year. That's so bizarre. I don't know why they had to change that but I guess they figured they'd have bigger field. I don't know that raises always such a good racist secretary. I I would've left alone anyway. They didn't ask and they didn't ask you either. They never ask either one of us ever asked us but <hes> they should. You have so many good ideas. It's better to just keep doing what you're doing right. Nothing good comes from deviation who said that <hes> I went with war film. <hes> you look at war film war films run against English be real news digital age a threat of blue social paranoia paranoia A._B._C.'s flatter Henley's joy the black album. I mean these are real horses that this war film has been facing and <hes> he's gotten checks and all of those races <hes>. He's obviously not in the same caliber but he finds his friends here. He's got a turf figure that seven points higher than par for this level. He has the top tour figure in the field. It's going to be a price. I I love Miguel Mania. I think he's an underrated writer. <hes> the locks I mean nobody gives us guy credit. He wins a lot of races. <hes> the horses by declaration of war. WHO's a sneaky sneaky good sire <hes> he's out of filmmaker who was just a brilliant near so lots to like about war film Steve Asmussen off a little bit of a break source didn't run much <hes> he was really good in the American rabbit in the Murphy Iran while Johnny Brielle by the way this might be his favorite moment ever racetrack? He's getting into these Marian Rivera as the biggest. I'm really happy for joining either that he was. He had some extra hop in his step this morning. I can tell you that yeah and it's GonNa get loud here in a little bit yeah. This is a really weird and I wonder if the ooh weirdness comes from the fact that it's now at a mile the secretariat right because a lot of these which is already been a mile and a sixteenth that Nathan I gotta come back crafty. Daddy's undefeated with blinkers. He's three for threes only lost one time on on on the turf. That was earlier in January. I think he's tough Jackson. Flying Scotsman won the wraith recessive nil when he was Jerry Holland offers care last year hasn't run since that day in November Long Time Jack numbers layoffs not great. We'll talk about him tomorrow. As well. <hes> I went to the outside world I I went to the undefeated with blinkers on <hes> crafty daddy to ruin the rat Cox. They went a lot of races together and that's where I land. I'll use flying Scotsman. I will use your cult Warfield Warfield and the one high crime Darren Miller first time turf son of violence out of a smart strike man pedigree there. 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He doesn't know how to lose these game. Winner breeders later a little bit of a second signalman third and Mr Buddy Four Cup juvenile winner clips champion Game Win are looking verse First Win since that day in November Churchill downs. Oh look for it at Los Alameda near Derby. Welcome back to the weekend sticks preview presented by Nyerere bets here on H. and in Los Altos Derby Jude. They only got four in the low South Derby Bob Baffert has a couple of game where and kingly drovers Ireland authorized this rate three and eight hundred thousand on the line blinkers back on game winner for the first time since he took his debut at Del Mar less summer. Let's talk about game when first second because we have a division with the three year olds. That's when we got some time as well. It's up in the air and you know game winners races and we don't see this a lot especially at the upper levels of I know you prefer the prison that I have with the our F- I used I look at the bias beat figure so when he debuts runs in eighty three six subsequent starts ninety three ninety seven ninety three ninety six ninety seven ninety six three last year three this year. They're all kind of the scene. Do you think it's the case here with us. Just didn't take the step forward from his two year old year or do you think there have been mitigating circumstances. I think I think he stayed the same <hes> I wouldn't. He certainly hasn't moved forward as far as his speed is concerned. I think his defeat to Omaha beach was unfortunate fortunate. I think he he could've won that race very easily with a different trip I mean he was out in the middle of Polk Lundy the next race against roadster for some reason they want to keep this horse out in the middle of the track. I mean it was like they didn't want anybody to touch him and now that ranks was was kind of a joke as far as I was concerned. Rosario you know had that horse <hes> so far. Why did he ran a mile and a quarter? I mean I I don't know what the with the actual actual thing was but it seemed like to me he he was so far wide that it didn't make any sense. It was almost like you know they didn't care if he won or not and they wanted roadster hill in I have no idea and then he ran good in the Derby. You ran a good race. He didn't have the best of it he he'd got away poorly and <hes> you know he got beat three and three quarter lengths in a race that you know it's been discussed Ad Nauseam but I mean you're one hundred percent correct. has numbers have basically stayed the same on the Brisbane at scale the Breeders Cup juvenile was his best race hundred three. I think that's perfectly accurate you know he went ninety to ninety seven ninety seven three and then when he came back in ninety eight ninety seven ninety five <hes> they're putting their blinkers back on <hes> because <hes> he doesn't seem to have the same early zip that he used to have <hes> he's got a bunch of bullets for Baffert and this is a four horse field. I mean he's GonNa have to chase kingly. WHO's a fast horse? I mean kingly is GonNa make the lead in here and it's going to be up to game winner to run him down on whether he can or not I have no idea <hes> but <hes> I mean I would be tempted to bet on kingly in this race but I don't think either one of them are going to be any price so it doesn't make makes sense to me to better race like that so <hes> but I don't know about. I've been a game winner fan from day one. I I stuck with them all during the Derby. I kept thinking he announced. He's going to turn the corner. He's GonNa he's GonNa do it <hes> he didn't do it so Darby. Trip was legendary. I mean he traveled two hundred and eleven feet more than the winner. That's that's essentially the equivalent of twelve lengths okay and he got three and three quarters so you know maybe that was the best race of his life. Maybe the Kentucky Derby was actually the best race of his life. I don't think there's any I think the two best races of his life were probably the ones that most people would say warrant the Derby and I thought his juvenile I thought his juvenile you know maybe the source also has a problem Churchill damp which could very well be the case his juvenile. He just didn't seem seem to WANNA be there and it was almost like at the quarter pole he said the Joel. I don't want to do this but I'm GonNa go do it. Because this is what I do yeah anyone one workmanlike and it was it was as least flashy effort and even the Derby was flashing. You just remember seeing them in the middle of racetrack all time He. I don't know what what is what do does he not like to run inside a horse's. User run that was to instructions. I was told that was to instructions you. Keep him out of trouble at all because I'll tell you this if it was not to instruction hundred and fifty thousand Saratoga opening Saturday. That's a weird reason to get rid to take them off. The horse yeah was it. I'm not don't worry about it wrong next time back in the Pacific classic or the travers of the wherever you're going to learn next yeah. I think it was two instructions. Everything's to instructions right. There's Bob doesn't doesn't make mistakes. He's not he's. He doesn't say oh well. I don't think I've ever heard him say we'll just leave it up to the jockey right even when he's Mike Smith stake in the Derby yeah well you know I mean it may not have worked out but but if it worked out he he didn't have a straw in his path right I mean it's like I don't know this horse by the booth at one point yeah yeah he's he's. He's a frustration because he's got ability and and you might maybe you're right about Churchill downs but but to my I when I see you know he wins the Breeders Cup juvenile with the highest speed Figari ever ran and then you know he's twelve links wide in the derby and he gets beat three so that it would probably be the best race that he ever ran right. So you're talking about nine times to eighteen. He would have run one hundred thirteen speed figure big number of one hundred thirteen his best raised by ten in all say. I'd like to see the champ. Return tomorrow seated great ones in all the good one. I'm UH ready to crown him raping. You always like to see the real good ones and he gets the money tomorrow then I'll go number six. I never spent more time in Forestville five. I thought he was a real interesting story tomorrow. This division Asian is up in the air. It would not surprise me if we are sitting here. Six months from now talking about the eclipse award winning one three year old of the year wouldn't surprise me because there's still enough time. There's travers Bob likes horses. Instead of Pennsylvania Derby GonNa run the Breeders Cup at Santa Anita. This worst has been just fine that the great race place <hes> in fact this two biggest buyer figures of common Santa Anita. It'll be an interesting second half of the year. We'll see if game when he hit his off to a winning winning start in that rate three Los L. Derby tomorrow afternoon all right couple of steaks tomorrow night in Indiana grant will start in race number eight the Indiana oaks for the the three year old phillies great three mile and a sixteenth. We have a field full field of twelve couple of as as well which I went. I went with the favorite street band. I mean I think I just think she's the best filly in the race. She's been trained and good to <hes> her last three workouts sparkling <hes> forty seven and two best the morning a minute flat and fifty nine and four in Larry Jones sounds is very good trainer. <hes> sophie gets along great with this Philly. They make a good team <hes>. There's really nobody in here. That's as good as they are. Somebody could improve could run the race of their life or whatever I mean Kim. K. looks like she's doing well for. You're Pete Miller Sundays at the beach. I love the name but the you know. She looks like she's on the improve and Sweet Diane. I've always kind of liked her. I like the old sweep Diane so why not like the new sweet Diane <hes> <hes> so it's <hes> you know it's one of those races where there's some some upstarts but I mean really based on past performances street. Band is the Philly to be by far. I like a lot in here. I like I like the number eight salaries pollen and a big price always knocking at the door always looked like she was the kind of phillies new the put it together and I think the blinkers brought it all together last time it was her most professional effort was a fast effort by about ten lengths loved loved her effort. I like her. I'm GONNA boxer with the one two and five with Kim K.. The you mentioned her loan unreal blemish on the card came in the house. That's when they take your lawf- binding Juniors GonNa ride for Peter Miller. The to drinking dixie was second in the prep for this the panthers and the five feet band obviously the topics it'd be the number eight. Sally's allies curling goes race number eight the Grade Three Indiana oaks the Indiana Derby goes as race number nine rate three half million on the line Ray Magician makes his I was <hes> finishing last in the Kentucky Derby always mining was fourth off a troubled trip in the easy goer long wings Taty Hoti was third in the Ohio Derby. Mr Money's been on it is on a two race win streak interesting event you yeah I mean Mr money drawn. The eleven hall makes it makes it a little bit interesting but I think he's a lock. I can't see anybody beating wow as good as he's running right now that the locksmith there's nobody in this race that that is in as good good a form as he is <hes> long range. Toddy is the only other horse that that I put on the race for Pope Jude and and I think you know he he's had some issues he had the two off tracks which he hates and and <hes> he might have needed his last race because he got nothing out of the two mud races right. If you're not running you're not getting any condition <hes> he might need that race. He it was it was a decent race. It wasn't overwhelming or anything but he might need it and he he'll be tougher today. If that was the case so <hes> I mean if if he doesn't you know put in a big showing <hes> you know in in in this race then we probably just scratch him off the card but Mr Your money just has looked you know like like guy for Yeti says he looks like Mr Money. I mean he's he's just ridiculous. <hes> so that's that's where I went. I'm going for the mild upset with math wizard. That was a big racial. Blazers came off last time and the Ohio Derby the lead and just got run down by Ellendale late in the game swim in Saggers I._S.. Stays for Savvy Joseph. Yeah like math whether you're gonNA use them what Mr Money couldn't use them with long range changed Taty as well so I'm outside here ten nine eleven ten eleven nine for me goes race number nine the great three Indiana Derby Alright. 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