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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on The Art of Manliness

The Art of Manliness

03:27 min | 2 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on The Art of Manliness

"Old days when armies encountered this kind of weather, they would kind of shake hands and agree to meet and spring, and go to someplace like Valley Forge. But here they just kept going. And you know with with devastating results. Yeah. Talk about what it was like. So there's hundreds of thousands of Chinese. How many marines were there at the Chosin reservoir? There were about thirteen thousand right there around the shores of this lake which is by this point. Rosenthal. You know, I in fact, some of the battle happens out on the ice, which is kind of amazing. And there's another seven or eight thousand Rene's down in the valley, by the sea, supporting them, but they're surrounded by, you know, ten to one in many parts of the battlefield by the Chinese, who had, you know, to their credit very successfully lured, the marines up into this area. And then they surrounded them truly surrounded them, and then they finally attack in force on the night of November, twenty seventh. And, you know, they only attack at night, because they were terrified of American airpower. So he couldn't be spotted at night, of course, the planes could fly at night. So they'd come around midnight in be this sort of cacophony of bells and whistles, drums, doodles, and they come over the hills in waves. You know, just the marines are holding on for dear life. Unabsorbed this attack all through the night. And by dawn the attacks would relent and, and they would disappear into the hills and you wouldn't see him until the next night. Well, let's goes on, you know, for for over week just trying to absorb these, these incredible attacks until the marines can figure out what to do next knowing the carnage, I mean, it was like it was home. Eric it was biblical. I mean just bodies thousands of bodies just like heaped on each other. It was. I mean you, you. Yeah. You know, war is bad. But like I never I never read anything like this before. Yeah. Well, you know, the Chinese were either incredibly brave, or are they were just incredibly driven by their commanders? And, you know, maltreated, his men like cannon fodder. We just we'll make more. We'll, we'll just we'll just end in more and more and more people, and he was willing to sustain casualties that we would consider up. Being. And so they would these ways would come and you're in the marines were had to resort very quickly to hand to hand combat him. It's a lot of these a lot of this combat happened with shovels and ban and knives. And pistols in debt or night in twenty below zero weather on, you know, the needs the glare of these of these flares against the light of the snow. You know the the light coming off the snow. So it was very Irie environment to have to fight in. And, you know, as you said, corpses would just pile up marines really couldn't dig foxholes, because because the soil was frozen solid, so they ended up using these corpses. As wind breaks says sandbags almost stand they just pile them up and they'd hide behind corpses. And and keep fighting through the night. So you know he talked to these marines. They talk about a lot of things and had a lot of nightmares about a lot of different aspects of this, but they talk a lot about that..

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on The Art of Manliness

The Art of Manliness

03:28 min | 2 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on The Art of Manliness

"Hampton sides, welcome to the show. Great could be with you. So you just published a new military history book about the Korean war on desperate ground, the marines at the reservoir, the Korean wars greatest battles about the battle of the Chosin, reservoir thing about the Korean war is it's often the overlooked war in American history, people know about World War Two. Then there's the crane were happened and then there's Vietnam, and there's lots of movies and books about Vietnam. Why do you think the Korean war gets overlooked lots of reasons? I one of them is that it sometimes perceived as kind of an addendum to World War Two, you know. It's just sort of unfinished business having to do with World War, Two that kind of kind of an afterthought or something like that, I think it's also perceived by some people as not being truly a war. That's you know, sometimes it was called a police action UN police action, a conflict, but not a war that, you know, me assure you, it was a war, and it was brutal and devastating war. And and you know, one that would really feeling the consequences of still today. I think the third reason why it's kind of forgotten, is that it ended in a stalemate it ended more or less, where again, which was at the thirty eighth parallel the line separating north and South Korea. And, you know, Americans we, we like to think we win wars did non was an exception were that we lost, but a stalemate is a hard narrative to get your head around. They say we died for tie and that they. Being the veterans of this battle, and they'll just war. And, you know, I get that it's just kind of, it's kind of a messy narrative complicated. Unsettling narrative to understand. So those are those are certainly some of the and we're technically still at war. Right. And there's, there's been a armistice, like we're just kind of it's been put off for a bit. Yeah. Yeah. That to maybe a reason why it's kind of a forgotten war, is that it ended with this armistice that left some new the questions unanswered, we're still kind of poised on the brink of war. It's a scary place DMZ is a very scary place. And, you know, a flashpoint that could erupt at any moment, and, you know, most of our wars that we fought, you know, have a very clear and genitive ending and, and know it's got book ins, and you understand what that was, and it's over now Korea still kind of a cliffhanger, you know, it's still, it's still, they're still all these questions that need to be resolved in that certainly contributes to this provisional quality. I guess the, the whole war has an international consciousness. You know, it's like over yet was because it's overlooked. It's the forgotten war. I think a lot Americans. Don't even understand how we got involved in it. So he kinda goes. Like a thumbnail sketch of like how we ended up in Korea. It's a complicated thing and I'll try to do the one. Oh, one kind of version of it. Okay. So after World War Two the allied powers were tasked with responsibility of deciding what to do with the spoils of the Japanese empire, in Korea had been a colony of Japan, imperial Japan, the Japanese just brutally mistreated the Koreans. But it was they're calling, so the Soviets kinda got into that theater of the war very late in the game..

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on KDWN 720AM

KDWN 720AM

02:42 min | 2 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on KDWN 720AM

"You can go to apple itunes and type in marklevinshow. And you'll find us there, apple itunes, and Google music. You can find us at Google music again put in marklevinshow. And what Google music does. Is it a pop up when the show comes on? Or when when it's available on a podcast that is. And so you'll be reminded these are just three ways there's other ways to, but as I say, we're constructing a page where we can send you a link to it. But I would encourage you to do this. Now, just so you have it because I think it is a very here's the thing. We don't charge you for this. They're all kinds of podcasts going on right now where people charge you to listen. I don't charge. You wanna listen to me on on radio AM FM radio. You wanna listen to us on on on on on the internet? You wanna listen to me on the Mark Levin app. Iheartradio app. Go for. We don't have pay walls or anything else for that. So no, the no charge. No subscription, absolutely free. The Mark Levin podcast again. Marklevinshow dot com. You can get it there. Apple I tunes. You can get it. They're Google music. Get it there. So you're can say, well, I missed a show or its tape delayed or it's preempted. You can listen to it. Whenever you want. How did technology is truly amazing? It's truly amazing. Barry, Austin, Texas. How are you, sir? Hi, mark. Thanks for taking my call. Yes. We could clone. One hundred of you. We might have enough to hold off the creeping socialism or the socialist creeks. Well, you know. Yeah. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No. I'm sorry. You go ahead. Well, I think there's more than one hundred me. I don't mean me, DNA wise. There's more than one hundred there's guys like you. There's gals like Donahue calls in here from time to time. I think there are millions of us. Not going to be enough. But listen, let me ask you a question. Yes, sir. Did did young American boys guy in the snow on the side of a mountain in Korea called the Chosin reservoir holding off the Chinese communists horde for more than a month. So that we could evolve into socialism in this country. Did they do that? You know, I could point to battle after battle after battle Cold War hot or you're exactly right. Just remember we've talked about it. And I've written about it. And as have others. Jefferson and Joseph story and Lincoln and others have said if we're going to be defeated we're.

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

760 KFMB Radio

02:43 min | 2 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

"You one penny. You can go to apple I tunes and type in marklevinshow. And you'll find us there, apple itunes, and Google music. You can find us at Google music again put in marklevinshow. And what Google music does. Is it a pop up when the show comes on or when or when it's available on a podcast that is. And so you'll be reminded these are just three ways there's other ways to, but as I say, we're constructing a page where we can send you a link to it. But I would encourage you to do this. Now, just so you have it because I think it is a very here's the thing. We don't charge you for this. There are all kinds of podcast going on right now where people charge you to listen. I don't charge. You wanna listen to me on on radio AM FM radio. You wanna listen to us on on on on on the internet? You wanna listen to me on the Mark Levin app. Iheartradio app. Go for it. We don't have pay walls or anything else for that. So no fee. No charge. No subscription, absolutely free. The Mark Levin podcast again. Marklevinshow dot com. You can get it there. Apple I tunes. You can get it. They're Google music and get it there. So he can say, well, I missed a show or its tape delayed or preempted you can listen to it. Whenever you want. How did technology is truly amazing? It's truly amazing. Barry, Austin, Texas. How are you, sir? Hi, mark. Thanks for taking my call. Yes. If we could clone a hundred of you, we might have enough to hold off the creeping socialism or the socialist creeps our. Well. Yeah. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No. I'm sorry. You go ahead. Well, I think there's more than one hundred me. I don't mean me, DNA wise. There's more than one hundred there's guys like you. There's gals like Donahue calls in here from time to time. I think there are millions of us. Not going to be enough. But listen, let me ask you a question. Yes, sir. Did did young American boys die in the snow on the side of a mountain in Korea called the Chosin reservoir holding off the Chinese communists horde for more than a month. So that we could evolve into socialism in this country. They do that. I could point to battle after battle after battle Cold War hot or you're exactly right. Just remember we've talked about it. And I've written it as have others. Jefferson and Joseph story and Lincoln and others have said if we're going to be defeated we're.

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

WCBM 680 AM

02:43 min | 2 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"I don't charge. You one penny. You can go to apple I tunes and type in marklevinshow. And you'll find us there. Apple I tunes and Google music. You can find us at Google music again put in marklevinshow. And what Google music does. Is it a pop up when the show comes on? Or when when it's available on a podcast that is. And so you'll be reminded these are just three ways there's other ways to, but as I say, we're constructing page where we can send you a link to it. But I would encourage you to do this. Now, just so you have it because I think it is a very here's the thing. We don't charge you for this. There are all kinds of podcast going on right now where people charge you to listen. I don't charge. You wanna listen to me on on radio? AM FM radio. You want to listen to us on on on on on the internet. You wanna listen to me on the Mark Levin app. Iheartradio app. Go for. We don't have pay walls or anything else for that. So no, the no charge. No subscription, absolutely free. The Mark Levin podcast again. Marklevinshow dot com. You can get it there. Apple I tunes. You can get it. They're Google music. Get it there. So you can say, well, I missed a show or its tape delayed or preempted you can listen to it. Whenever you want. Technology is truly amazing. Truly amazing Barry Austin, Texas. How are you, sir? Hi, mark. Thanks for taking my call. Yes. If we could clone a hundred of you, we might have enough to hold off the creeping socialism or the socialist creeks black. Doc. Well, you know, I yeah. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No. I'm sorry. You go ahead. Well, I think there's more than one hundred me. I don't mean me, DNA wise. There's more than one hundred those guys like you. There's gals like Donahue calls in here from time to time. I think they're millions of us. Not going to be enough. But listen, let me ask you a question. Yes, sir. Did did young American boys die in the snow on the side of a mountain in Korea called a Chosin reservoir holding off the Chinese communists horde for more than a month. So that we could evolve into socialism in this country. Did they do that? You know, I could point to battle after battle after battle Cold War. Hot war. You're exactly right. Just remember we've talked about and I've written it has have others. Jefferson and Joseph story and Lincoln and others have said if we are going to be defeated we're.

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

02:50 min | 2 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on KTOK

"You one penny. You can go to apple I tunes and type in marklevinshow. And you'll find us there, apple itunes, and Google music. You can find us at Google music again put in marklevinshow. And what Google music does. Is it a pop up when the show comes on or when or when it's available on a podcast that is. And so you'll be reminded these are just three ways there's other ways to, but as I say, we're constructing a page where we can send you a link to it. But I would encourage you to do this. Now, just so you have it because I think it is a very here's the thing. We don't charge you for this. There are all kinds of podcasts going on right now where people charge you to listen. I don't charge. You wanna listen to me on on radio AM FM radio. You wanna listen to us on on on on on the internet? You wanna listen to me on the Mark Levin app. I heart radio app go for it. We don't have pay walls or anything else for that. So no fee. No charge. No subscription, absolutely free. The Mark Levin podcast again. Marklevinshow dot com. You can get it there. Apple I tunes. You can get it. They're Google music. Get it there. So you're can say, well, I missed a show or its tape delayed or preempted you can listen to it. Whenever you want. How did technology is truly amazing? It's truly amazing. Barry, Austin, Texas. How are you, sir? Hi, mark. Thanks for taking my call. Yes. If we could clone a hundred of you, we might have enough to hold off the creeping socialism or the socialist creeks. However you well. Yeah. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No. I'm sorry. You go ahead. Well, I think there's more than one hundred to me. I don't mean me, DNA wise. There's more than one hundred there's guys like you. There's gals like Donahue calls here from time to time. I think they're millions of us. Not going to be enough. But listen. Yeah. Let me ask you a question. Yes, sir. Did did young American boys die in the snow on the side of a mountain in Korea called the Chosin reservoir holding off the Chinese communists horde for more than a month. So that we could evolve into socialism in this country. Did they do that? You know, I could point to battle after battle after battle Cold War hot or you're exactly right. Just remember we've talked about it. And I've written it that it and as have others. You know, Jefferson and Joseph story and Lincoln and others have said if we're going to be defeated we're going to be defeated from within. And we do have a fifth column in this country. It's the hard left. He radical progressives. You.

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

02:56 min | 2 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"You one penny. You can go to apple I tunes and type in marklevinshow. And you'll find us there, apple itunes, and Google music. You can find us at Google music again put in marklevinshow and. What Google music does. Is it a pop up when the show comes on or when or when it's available on a podcast that is. And so you'll be reminded these are just three ways there's other ways to, but as I say, we're constructing a page where we can send you a link to it. But I would encourage you to do this. Now, just so you have it because I think it is a very here's the thing. We don't charge you for this. There are all kinds of podcasts going on right now where people charge you to listen. I don't charge. You wanna listen to me on on radio AM FM radio. You wanna listen to us on on on on on the internet? You wanna listen to me on the Mark Levin app. Iheartradio app. Go for it. We don't have pay walls or anything else for that. So no fee. No charge. No subscription, absolutely free. The Mark Levin podcast again. Marklevinshow dot com. You can get it there. Apple I tunes. You can get it there. Google music get it there. So you can say, well, I missed a show or its tape delayed or preempted you can listen to it. Whenever you want. How did technology is truly amazing? It's truly amazing. Barry, Austin, Texas. How are you, sir? Hi, mark. Thanks for taking my call. Yes. If we could clone a hundred of you, we might have enough to hold off the creeping, socialism, the socialist creeps. However you as well. You know? Yeah. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No. I'm sorry. You go ahead. Well, I think there's more than one hundred me, I don't mean knee, DNA wise, there's more than one hundred there's guys like you. There's gals like Donahue calls in here from time to time. I think there are millions of us. Not going to be enough. But listen. Yeah. Let me ask you a question. Yes, sir. Did did young American boys guy in the snow on the side of a mountain in Korea called the Chosin reservoir holding off the Chinese communist horde for more than a month. So that we could evolve into socialism in this country. Did they do that? You know, I could point to battle after battle after battle Cold War hot or you're exactly right. Just remember we've talked about it. And I've written it that it and as have others. Jefferson and Joseph story and Lincoln and others have said if we're going to be defeated we're going to be defeated from within. And we do have a fifth column in this country. It's the hard left radical progressives, you see their faces and you hear their voices right now. Thank you for your call, my friend. We salute our armed forces. Police officers.

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on Zero Blog Thirty

Zero Blog Thirty

04:14 min | 2 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on Zero Blog Thirty

"He was like that was my tune sergeant that sense saying, and I almost shit my because there's two marines that I think are probably three Smedley Butler. John Bacelona chesty puller are like the three marines of marines. But I want. Yeah. Plate list them out Rushmore of marine. Yeah. Let's not ugly sweater right now. Let's get that's shirt made up last night lease. So I'll set the scene a little bit the Chosin reservoir, the average temperature during this battle was negative thirty five degrees. So this was during a time when they didn't have modern gloves. No, they didn't have modern Imerys Emaar is that we have now just flat out don't freeze, and you can put them in almost as cold temperatures. You want to and they're not gonna freeze you're able to eat them. That was not the case with the old emerets they came in cans. So when they were there for days at a time in thirty five degree weather. The emerets were starting to free solid. They didn't have fire's built. Because there was it was basically out in the middle of nowhere. There was no woods. It was just a wide open area. And they had to take their immigrants set them up on poles and shoot them in order for them to blow into pieces and then the marines in thirty five degree weather with no. Fire had to put those into their mouth to get any type of nutrients at all I just let it saw there. If you've seen a Korean war veteran a lot of the times, the people who were in the front lines of the Chosin reservoir missing fingers. And I think people just assume that it would be like now whenever somebody's fixing ID's other fixing bombs that they're blowing up what they had to do in the Chosin reservoir was they would go out. And if you were on watch, you would cut out a whole so your hand. So your your trigger finger could touch the trigger. They would stay so long that their fingers would get frostbite, and they would cut their own fingers off then they would move to the next finger. That's and the next thing and the next finger the average person who made it out of the chosen reservoir only had six fingers left while they were there for so long in that situation. So when you watch the medal of honor series, and you see the Korean war episode. There is a certain aspect. I think of the Korean war was so bad that that's why it was never talked about like whenever people came home. A lot of it was more fatigue from what happened in World War Two. But a lot of it was this was such a devastating war that it's it was uncomfortable to speak of because you can't imagine your family members having to be out there in thirty five degree below weather. Thousands upon thousands. I believe it was twenty thousand off the top of my head. I believe twenty thousand died in the chosen reservoir alone. And that was the fourth worst battle of the Korean war. So when you think about that, and you watch those shows the valor that the men and women displayed at that time in Korea was unbelievable. So to the sergeant major into the master guns who I believe he was actually Master Sergeant who died this week. All right. I think that he does type of things are heroism that we will never be able to understand again in modern warfare. Because it's not what we do. And I say all that. Well, yeah, we do we do tie Carter. Did it quite Roma? Shay. Did it Kyle carpenter? Did it? We are very lucky to live in a place where rough men and women with guns are ready to stand the watch. And I think way to the way we started this episode. The military is not perfect. And there are we're not these magical. Human beings are always honorable and always do the right thing. But they're also on the flip side of that goin- men like this who and women like this who are there. And who I think Trump that a million times who? Yeah, you're absolutely right. And I'm really looking forward to us to really delve into the the medal of honor series starting next week a believe or maybe actually the week after next week's going to be thanksgiving. So we'll probably only have one episode next week if I would have to make a guess right now. I don't know. We'll see. But southern trait..

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

02:35 min | 2 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"Ten days for them to get out of the mountains to seventy mile March down this single lane road to the see where an enormous evacuation was planned on on the level of Dunkirk because it also involved over a hundred thousand North Korean civilians were evacuated. So just a story that's epic. And every in every respect, and you know, one that the Marine Corps course, celebrates and embraces is one of the great battles. Sure. Now, you did some research in Cincinnati for this book. I did I I was at a reunion of the chosen few. That's what they this organization calls itself, the Chosin reservoir the chosen few. This reunion was in. I think it was in Springfield, Illinois. And I met a gentleman from Cincinnati. A korean? He was from North Korea. Originally, a doctor who had retired spent his life in Ohio. But he started to tell me his story of his youth in Korea. And all its various twists and turns, you know, growing up under the Japanese occupation at a kid, and then the Soviets came and took over North Korea. And then North Korea became a police state, and he escaped to the south with some of his family, and then they moved to Seoul, and at great risk moved to Seoul. And then of course, the North Koreans invaded in June of nineteen fifty and his family was murdered. And he hit out in this house for a long time because they were trying to find him. And then when the Americans came and destroyed soul, and the, of course, liberating soul. Sure restored it to the South Korean government, and she came out of hiding join the Americans and they sent him back to North Korea to his hometown. Which is right in the thick of this battle of chosen. Reservoir. And so I follow his twists and turns through all of this. Because his story really tells the story of of the two Koreas in the tragedy. Of of separating these two nations was truly one nation. One culture one language, they should never been separated in the first place, and all these families that have been displaced, and, you know, not allowed to see each other again after all these years, it's it's tragic, and.

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

760 KFMB Radio

11:45 min | 2 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

"It is November December nineteen fifty and American troops are stationed across a pretty a pretty thin line of four hundred mile line in North Korea. This area adjacent to the Chosin reservoir would become one of the biggest challenges for American fighting forces. I think going all the way back to. Valley Forge and Gettysburg the challenges were immense and key to this was the performance. Of number of US army infantry and also marines. The battle of the frozen. Chosin late November nineteen fifty Hampton sides has a brand new book out. It is phenomenal on desperate ground the marines at the reservoir, the Korean wars greatest battle and he joins us. Now. A happy Veterans Day to all of our veterans, especially those Korean war veterans who are in our listening area here in San Diego. Hampton, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me on. It's good to have you here. So tell us tell us about the order of battle here in a radio friendly way. Because obviously, we don't have maps we don't have charts. You don't have any of that sort of stuff, but it is thousand nine hundred fifty it is November US troops have advanced in the North Korea. And they are about to confront what about three hundred and fifty thousand Chinese troops coming down upon the meta Manchuria. Yeah. Overwhelming numbers of Chinese and they have come across secretly at first. And they're experts at camouflage they moved only at night and very difficult to to spot from the air. But eventually our troops. And particularly the men of the first marine division had begun to capture in skirmishes, some Chinese troops and interrogated them, and it became clear that they were there in large numbers. They were very forthcoming about who. They were where they were from somehow this intelligence when it got up to general McArthur in Tokyo, and his lieutenants, they just didn't want to believe this. They, you know, they said these are just mall in tears. They're rogue elements. Don't worry about these guys. And it really was one of our great intelligence failures. I think leadership failures I I know that MacArthur has his following people who love him. But man, I tell you I did not find a single marine who I interviewed who had kind things to say about about MacArthur because he put them in this impossible situation up this reservoir, this frozen lake up in the mountains of North Korea where they were completely. Surrounded by over in this area of the battlefield over a hundred and twenty thousand Chinese soldiers and only thirteen thousand marine so a trap that mal. And his is generals had expertly set. Tell us about the home by Christmas. Offensive that MacArthur wanted to launch through the Eighth Army. Yeah. Well, you know, I said maybe the war would be over by thanksgiving. And then he shortly after that said well won't be thanksgiving. But we'll be home by Christmas. And the idea was to get our troops. All the way to the Yellow River, which is the border with China Ventura and get the world or with quickly and make all of Korea one one country, which is of course, what it should have been you know, Korea should never have been separated in the first place that is that is one of the great tragedies of the post war sort of carving up of of the spoils of the Japanese empire is one country. It's one culture is one language should never happen. And of course, MacArthur's goal of reuniting the country was was a good one. But he. You seem to want to ignore the very very compelling reality that the Chinese were going to intervene in huge numbers. And he also seemed to want to ignore one other factor in that which the descent of winter in North Korea. Brutal. And you know, it's a bit like, you know, March of folly like Napoleon going into Russia right winter. You just can't fight in those conditions. It's it'll just stop an army and its tracks thirty five below zero. Indiana eighty five percent of these marines. And the army guys were also there on the east side of the reservoir suffered from very serious frostbite mini died, then fingers and toes and hands and feet. I just brutal conditions is brutal as any point to an American military history. So that was the third combat. Yeah. The Chinese the Americans and old man winter. Well, you also have as you mentioned you have big personalities involved in this. I mean, you have MacArthur directing us from Tokyo. But then you've got Major General Edward almond Edward, Don. Who's who's there? And he sees what's happening. Pretty quickly doesn't it starts to set in that? He is he is going to be up against it. Yeah. Well, he sees it. Although he is kind of MacArthur's right hand, man. And you have to reinterpret everything. In a way that MacArthur will like on this MRs MacArthur near the end of his career. Come just bingo, gorgeous. And and I kind of had surrounded himself with with yes-men almond was certainly capable commander. But kind of wasn't extension of MacArthur. Then then you get General Smith who was general. You know, he's a real hero of of of my book and jumped me at the Marine Corps. He is an underrated general who kind of solve this this coming days and weeks before it actually did and began to take a lot of precautions to protect his division and and to protect their lives, including building an airfield big airfield up in the middle of nowhere in this in this wilderness, where no airfield would ordinarily be big enough to bring in huge transport planes and bring out the huge numbers of casualties and over four thousand casualties were flown out of there in the end. So General Smith is is rightly revered by the morning Cornell, and this data battle Chosin reservoir, celebrated and studied by the marines, and mainly because what it ended up being after they regrouped and hatched a plan to get out of there. It was a fighting withdrawal a organiz. Welcome. Choreographed fighting withdrawal, some might say a retreat marine-style us that were they say we're attacking in another direction. But this kind of an Uber is is really the most difficult maneuver warfare to to collapse your enclaves onto each other. As you move through mountains with artillery, close air support patrols up on the ridge lines is this very complicated thing with so many moving parts and the executed brilliantly, and they did March their way to the she and they got out of this trap. So that's why it celebrates visiting visiting with with Hampton sides. Who's got a great new book out get this? It's perfect for this time, especially for the holidays on desperate ground the marines at the reservoir and the Korean Moore's greatest battle the old professor is what they called Oliver Smith. And he's an interesting person. He's this larger than life guy. He's like a guy you would see in a movie, you could you could see him playing somebody playing him in a film. He's he's a veteran of a number of conflicts, not the least of which is. The battle of Peleliu in World War Two and also the battle of Okinawa. He's a guy who stands what it's gonna take that you're going to have to be daring that you're gonna have to risk. But he also understands at the end of the day, you're relying on seventeen year olds from Oklahoma where the machine gun trying to try to fight your way out of this thing, you're relying on on groups of of men and boys who are suddenly seeing of new commands established because the captains and the sergeants are being killed every night. I mean, this is this is literally hell on earth. Yeah. Well, certainly Peleliu and Okinawa were were just hellacious battles. And he was someone who was cute Leo aware. General Smith was of the human cost of war. You know, like sometimes put men in each situations, and they and they fight bravely. But maybe there wasn't a strategic value to that endeavor. That's sort of what happened at Peleliu in the end because the strategy that kind of island hopping campaign of polo, which was EPO the kind of change, and they were taking an airfield that they didn't necessarily need to take. Right. So he was he was seeing the Chosin reservoir situation. Going going into the tape of winter. Yup. We're surrounded by Chinese were getting strung out on this narrow mountainous road, and which is in this perfect ambush country, and he began to smell smell a rat. It was a very cautious man, very methodical. He graduated from Berkeley fluent in French. He took macho, you know, growing home marine, at least on the surface was tough as nails. But you know, he was also famous for his for one one example, he cultivated roses, and it was an expert gardener. They call them the professor because he just. Read the classics incessantly and new military history. And you know, you kept saying, you know, this is like Napoleon going into Russia here. This is this is like a, you know a bridge too far. This is this is this is a dangerous situation. A battle of the bulge camping. And it proved to be very present. And had he not had these cautions. Like the airfield that he came up with. I think the first marine division could very well have been inoculated that would've been devastating on all kinds of levels. Because at the time they were probably a finest fighting force that we had coming out of World War Two. So it's an amazing bottle and also one that produce more it's the most decorated battle in in American history in terms of medals of honor and and other high honors for for valor. And and for you know, sacrifice so appropriate battle to be talking about him veterans. Absolutely Hampton sides joins us here on the show is his latest book is on desperate ground about the battle of the Chosin reservoir. Can I hold you over one more segment? I I have a question. I wanna I wanna posit this question. Let you think about it during the break if you got time. Okay. Okay. So here's the question. The question is this. Look, we know these communist regimes study a lot they study history. They study history of successful insurgencies in the ways they fight. And I'm wondering if you can if you can dive into this on the way back, and it's did did say ho Chee men and the Vietnamese and the other folks did they go to school in this kind of warfare when it came to things like the Ted offensive in the city way and denying and things like that where we saw. Surprise attacks for lack of a better word and. The ability of these communist insurgents to get in here, and do this can I hold over for that. Okay. Okay. Terrific is Hampton sides. He's gonna stick around the show and seven sixty talk and breaking news. You know, what kind of damage you get when you get watering your house. I mean, forget it. I know we're all looking at fires and the devastation caused by fires, but flood damage is all it is atrocious..

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on WGN Radio

WGN Radio

02:10 min | 3 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on WGN Radio

"Legion radio on tunein WBZ news time is three o'clock. Let's get to the newsroom in Invicta. Thanks, Nick. It's mostly cloudy. Seventy three degrees at O'Hare officials have released the nine one. One call tapes of a mother in Joliet township reporting her daughter missing. It's been more than a year sensitivities responded that call and found the body of Somalia Crosby going on there. I cannot find her she hit She's okay how old. Is she That combs play staple twenty-fifth last year police found the toddler's body two days later beneath. A couch. In the family home so. Far no charges have been filed investigators have named the mother and four. Other people as persons of interest US defense department officials provided an update yesterday on human remains that were transferred to. The United States by North Korea the initial analysis of the fifty five boxes we found remains. That were consistent with, being American she's Dr John Byrd the. Chief scientist, at the defense agency he says they likely belong to US army soldiers killed in one of the, most intense battles of the war. The battle, of the Chosin reservoir he says it could take months or even years before all. Of the remains can be identified a lawsuit against Fox News by the parents of Democratic. National Committee employee has been dismissed. ABC's Mark Remillard reports US district, judge George Daniels tossed a, lawsuit brought on by the parents have Seth rich saying it lacked the. Detail necessary to proceed to trial, the lawsuit. Claimed Fox News turned Rich's death into a quote political football by. Claiming he had leaked DNC emails to WikiLeaks during the presidential campaign FOX removed the story about a week. Effort posted. The story took touched off. Conspiracy theories the judge said richest parents needed specific instances of wrongdoing by. Fox News for the lawsuit to survive authorities said they believe Rich's death was a random robbery attempt and more than. One hundred Brooke stone gift shops across the country will permanently close that's part of the agreement. As its owners filed, bankruptcy the one inside O'Hare airport will. Be allowed, to remain open so we'll thirty four other Brooke stones inside other airports we'll check sports traffic and, weather next on WGN now.

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

03:07 min | 3 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Luminary findings were that the. Remains are with the, DPRK officials said they were they do appear to be remains from the. Korean more they are likely to be American remains and In fact the largest turnovers we've ever. Received, so there were questions about whether those bones were human bones whether they're US soldiers bones from the Korean war, and their their. Preliminary assessment is that yes they are and the North. Koreans were telling them the truth about that Anthony, how many. American soldiers are still missing in action in the Korean war About seventy seven hundred or missing unaccounted, for and about four hundred and fifty have been identified since nineteen eighty two but none have been. Repatriated for more than a decade because of the nuclear issue and these bodies, these remains come from some very famous battle sites, and POW camps around north we elect the Chosin reservoir and. Stuff like that and it's very hard to to find them and identify them we've seen, reports that identifying the remains might? Be difficult as you as you just said what are the specifics of that, why is that given the scientific advances that we leave made its TRE There's no really good technology for? Finding remains basically just have to dig a lot of holes and you know it's been sixty five years a lot of has changed and, with these fifty five set of remains that are being repatriated there was one single soldiers dawn tag. And the military says that it has already notified the the soldiers family that, his dawn tank has been found it's incredible that, is incredible the US military obviously moving very quickly now this. Ceremony comes at a tricky time right we've got these reports that North Korea is continuing, to build nuclear weapons and missiles? What is the relationship between today's ceremony and end the fight over denuclearization Well this is a positive event. Which the. Military hopes it'll. Be more of, that they'll be able. To go in there and look for more, remains? At the same time we've got these very disturbing reports coming out of North Korea. Saying that they are deceiving everybody they're continuing to? Build nukes and missiles At the same time people say look North Korean never made a commitment and said. Specifically when they're, gonna stop making these things. They made them to defend themselves and. They're not sure that everything with the US is going to, go you know the negotiations will go smoothly and so that is why that is why? People, are saying it's not surprising that North Korea continues to do this so North. Korea making making an effort there let me ask you a last question Anthony wants the. Remains if and when the remains are identified does the military then moved to immediately contact families. And and and get them back home Yes that's right there'd be you'll be going for frenzy lab in Hawaii And. The process of identification can.

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

03:07 min | 3 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Findings were the. Remains are with the, DPRK officials said they were they do appear to be remains from the. Korean war they are likely to be American remains and Quite a lot Largest turnovers. We've ever received so there were questions about whether those bones, were human bones whether US soldiers bones from the Korean war and their their preliminary assessment, is that. Yes they are and the North Koreans were telling them the. Truth, about that Anthony how many American soldiers are still missing in action in. The Korean war About seventy. Seven hundred or missing unaccounted for and about four hundred fifty. Have been identified since nineteen eighty two but none have been repatriated for more than a, decade because of the nuclear issue? And these body these remains come from some very, famous battle sites and POW camps around North Korea. Like the Chosin reservoir and stuff like that and it's very, hard to to find them and identify them we've seen reports that identifying the remains might, be difficult. As you as you just said what are the specifics of. That, why is that given the scientific advances that we we've made it such There's no really good technology for finding remains basically they. Just have to dig holes and you know it's been sixty five years a lot, has changed and with these fifty five set. Of remains that are being repatriated there was one single soldiers. Dog tag and the military says that it has already notified them of the soldiers family, that his dawn tag has been? Found it's incredible that is incredible the US military, obviously moving very quickly Now this. Ceremony comes at a tricky time right we've got these reports that North Korea is continuing to build nuclear weapons and missiles what. Is the. Relationship between today's. Ceremony and end, the fight over denuclearization Well this is a positive event which the military hopes it'll. Be more of its they'll be able. To go in there and look for more, remains? At the same time we've got these very disturbing reports coming out of North Korea. Saying that they are deceiving everybody they're continuing to? Build nukes and missiles At the same time people say look North Korean never made a commitment in said specifically when they're gonna start making these. Things they made them to defend themselves. And they're not sure that everything with the US is going, to go you know the negotiations will go smoothly and so that is why that is? Why, people are saying it's not surprising that North Korea continues to do this North, Korea making making an effort there let me ask you a last question Anthony wants the. Remains if and when the remains are identified does the military then moved to immediately contact families. And and and get them back home Yes that's right there'd be we'll be going for forensic lab in Hawaii And the process. Of identification, can take,.

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe

MSNBC Morning Joe

01:48 min | 3 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe

"Really yes sir can you tell me i was weird things happen i had the feed from our show and suddenly kate mckinnon from snl came up and i was just curious when did how stupid hacked gathering a split box the whole thing no you know it's not donald trump zigurrat it's not the donald trump is is is anything else what he's just he's he's lying i there's no way that a hundred and ten year olds parents came up to donald ignorant there's a third area there is a third theory and that is that he's delusional he has his own world living in his own i think is that that certainly has to be what up there as other explanation joe willie and i did the math the math he's much better at math than i am but we started with a point of reference that if you are part of a family who lost a son at the chosin reservoir yet with the fifth marines in nineteen fifty one the winter nineteen fifty one what will he do the math on that show sin was november and december of nineteen fifty let's say twenty five year old kid right or let's say twenty year old you're twenty newborn in one thousand nine thirty generously your parents were born in nineteen zero five if they were twenty five years old and you were born nineteen ten maybe so during the two thousand sixteen campaign when president trump says they were approaching him and saying please bring back there remains of my son they would have been one hundred six to one hundred and ten years old but your point jail waiting a long time but yes they had your point joe is right this is an ignorance this is making up a story and dislike his friend jim who never goes to.

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030

WBZ NewsRadio 1030

02:22 min | 3 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030

"And after to persuade the north koreans to allow us lau j pack the joint pow accounting command to recover the the the bodies of our sons and daughters in uniform who perished during the korean war on the east and west ends on the chosin reservoir there's about five thousand americans were buried in mass graves in place this where they where they died and so when we had the dispute i wanna say six or seven years ago over some of the nuclear tests in north korea we had a dispute we put on some sanctions against kim jong un and then he retaliated by kicking out j pack now as i understand it as part of this agreement they have agreed to allow us to resume efforts we have a team of what do they call them pathologists that that do that worked when identify and who the mitre conrail dna identify who these individuals are it allows us to return them home to their families of course you're probably talking grand the grandchildren of of these men and women but back to their communities for you know an honorable and decent burial that they earned by virtue of their you know courageous service to our country so so that's a good improvement and that's near term we can we can do that we have a team already doing it in vietnam they're doing it in south korea and they're doing it in some of the islands in the south pacific where during the second world war many of of of military perish so that that would be a great result for some of those families to tab their loved ones returned and that's something that is short that could actually work and by the way you're absolutely correct the fourth component of the framework the the agreement that was signed by both kim and and president trump the united states and the the the democratic people's republic of korea commit to recovering pow remains including the immediate repatriation of those already identified and i believe the number the.

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on WPRO 630AM

WPRO 630AM

02:16 min | 3 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on WPRO 630AM

"The and the us forces were thrown back from the yalu and the marines were very badly chewed up as they retreated from the reservoir the chosin reservoir but the chinese casualties were horrendous they sent their army that we were told anecdotally that they sent their army against american guns only one of every five men carried a weapon and that of the you are supposed to pick up the dead man's weapon and continue to the fight it was a it was a horrid of leadership of that scarred them for generations afterwards now i think that she the son of those men who fought is looking to connect this in some fashion to confrontation with the us that's what striking me about my this bob michael well i mean the the warlord ism is inescapable but uh a warlord isn't necessarily about war i mean a world where it doesn't have to fight to achieve his goals and so much of what she was doing was ceremonial and it was very uh a precisely and uh very elaborately ceremonial and it was uh uh uh as you said bolstering the confidence of of chinese forces and sending a message to us but it doesn't uh to me represent necessarily a commitment to bavel it it represents i think uh a kind of o kind of leveraging uh the panoply of military authority uh for the purpose i want to turn the go a one or turn them to our allies because you know the everybody gets the vote here michael laos of johns hopkins were looking at the news reports that china wants to see that the president of china in military guard is something you will not see the president of the united states where a to inspect the military is a looking at a division that fought the us in the quote war to resist us aggression and aid korea let's talk about south korea when we come back and japan and also taiwan i'm john batchelor this is the john batchelor show two.

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"chosin reservoir" Discussed on KHNR 690AM

KHNR 690AM

01:30 min | 4 years ago

"chosin reservoir" Discussed on KHNR 690AM

"The grave the bill barber colonel barber medal of honor recipients for his valour at the chosin reservoir we have been at war with china before both declared an undeclared and and we are now close to a conflict in north korea the general mattis said on sunday mattis said on sunday is not unthinkable but would be horrific absolutely correct what better sugars respond on and you remember because you have some history but if you ask your ordinary us citizens or indeed gun helpless like to harvard has ever been at war with china look puzzle and if you are well do you have any idea what happened in the korean war okay thank you i pillow a story i mean i gave a lecture on the cold war in a khoat after and kid group that was brilliant i really was it was gradually i never know why they called it in a cold war but but you did but you know catch irrelevant because its ancient history gosh i said i could aging history but what it will be with me she said well everybody that's what happened before you graduated from high school the dow us and i wanted to find for people that the thirty trap using your own words on page twenty nine.

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